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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 29 Jul 1996 04:15:12 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4thdsg$ho5@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: "Gene Gibson JR!" <CreativTek@aol.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Cube Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:47:50 -0400 Organization: Creative Technologies Message-ID: <31FE9F26.223D@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings I just got my first Cube today and I'd like to know if anyone could tell me what type of SIMMS i would ask for.I have a Mono 040 Cube. Thanks in advance Gene Gibson JR!
From: jburne@sprynet.com (John Burnette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:25:51 -0800 Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <jburne-2907962125510001@ad08-046.compuserve.com> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <31FCD641.48D1@msi.se> In article <31FCD641.48D1@msi.se>, Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> wrote: > I browsed through the pages and while reading them I got depressed. What is NeXT now > compared to the early 90s? They sell tools instead of a vision. The NeXTstation was > the best computer ever built so far and it will probably take a long time until we see > another "insanely great" thing. > > Harald Personally I'm saving my pennies for a BeBox
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Cube Date: 30 Jul 1996 21:05:02 -0700 Organization: The Turbocolor On My Desk Message-ID: <4tmm1e$l9b@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <31FE9F26.223D@aol.com> "Gene Gibson JR!" <CreativTek@aol.com> wrote: >Greetings > >I just got my first Cube today and I'd like to know if anyone could tell me >what type of SIMMS i would ask for.I have a Mono 040 Cube. > Did it come with any simms? What version of ROM monitor does it have? (check the ROM monitor by hitting (Right)Command ~ right after the "testing" phase ends. If it says 2.5 v66, you have the latest version. SIMMS: You should have 16 slots for SIMMS, 4 banks of 4 each. The cube can take (in groups of four): 1x8 100ns, 1 Meg, this is non parity 1x9 100ns, 1 Meg 4x8 100ns, 4 Meg, this is non parity 4x9 100ns, 4 Meg As you may suspect, these are the same type 32-pin simms 486 and 386 PC's usually take. Since 100ns is a bit hard to find these days, 70ns will run quite well (no benefit from faster ram however). As to whay I asked about the ROM monitor, the latest version (above) allows mixing 4mb and 1mb, parity and non-parity simms (again in fours). Older versions may give exception errors and refuse to boot if types are mixed. My cube currently has 8 4x9 70ns simms, and 8 1x8 100ns simms and runs without problems. Good luck. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: Zameel Syed <zameels@applix.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: turning on a next station. Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 16:41:14 +0100 Organization: Applix UK Ltd Message-ID: <31FF7E9A.57FD@applix.co.uk> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960730122231.905A-100000@cycle1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nick Potkay wrote: > > Folks, > > Forgive my ignorance, but I could not find any information regarding > turning on a nextstation. This machine has been in the closet for who > knows how long and we would like to get rid of it. The keyboard has a > power key on it, but just hitting that key doesnt turn the machine on. > > What is the key sequence to turn on the machine? > > Also - I am pretty sure that the machine has a root passwd, (which I dont > know). How do I go about putting this beast into single user mode? > > Thanks > > -Nick I guess you're talking about "black kit?" plut the monitor in and plug the thing into the mains and hit the power key! Wait for a bit and you should see it come up
From: Hiroki Yamaberi <yamaberi@gokhu.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: drivers for chips & Technologies Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 00:05:51 +0900 Organization: GOKHU Message-ID: <31FF764F.1DA3@gokhu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does any one know about the draiver for Chips & Technologies CT6554x acc. chips? It is used for note computers. Wingine driver doesn't work, at any rate. Thanks, -- /// Hiroki Yamaberi (yamaberi@GOKHU.COM, http://www.gokhu.com) /// POWERED BY NEXTSTEP, COMMON LISP, AND NAVITIMER
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199607311943.PAA04021@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 96 15:43:30 -0400 Subject: External case for an internal CD-ROM Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com A few months back I heard of someone buying a Sony 76su (?) 4x CR-ROM who was also getting an external case for it, which would allow the internal to be used as an external. I am wondering if anyone else has any experience doing this, and how well it works. I'd also like to hear good companies to order from for good prices. Thanks! TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next NeXT Printer Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: gdkuch@barrow.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch) Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner) Message-ID: <DvEs3s.6w9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 12:59:52 GMT References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4tjh0u$dgc@news.onramp.net> <4tkt8k$8t1@pub02.va.pubnix.com> <4tlpdk$306@news.onramp.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <4tlpdk$306@news.onramp.net>, Steve Dekorte <dekorte@suite.com> wrote: >Louis A. Mamakos wrote: >> .... > >Louis, you can pick out different features and say 'Apple had this and >Sun had that', but the big deal with the NeXT is that they took all the >cool things and put them in one simple package. > >The NeXT took the Apple GUI and the Sun OS and the PC >affordability on put it in one box while at the same time making >innovations in the GUI and development tools. >That's pretty cool, IMHO. When did black hardware sell with PC affordability? I've always wondered how much better it would have done if the economic realities of the period it was released in would have allowed the machines to go out with more memory and bigger disks. -- Jerry Kuch EMail: gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMail welcome. IMPORTANT NEWS: Scripts for "Godzilla Vs. Desutoroia" had envisaged the monster's main target as the 1996 World City Expo in Tokyo but the idea fell through when Gov. Yukio Aoshima cancelled the event.
From: jeffs@mindspring.com (Jeff Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Recommendation for NeXT color monitor replacement/fix Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 17:15:29 -0800 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Distribution: world Message-ID: <jeffs-3107961715290001@user-207-69-140-185.dialup.mindspring.com> References: <BRISINDA.96Jul31112823@ip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> dale- I don't know if it'll work, i'm certainly hoping it will since I just purchased a color turbo and I don't have the NeXT monitor. From what I can gather, any monitor capable of 1152x900 @ 68/72Hz with sync on green will work. I'm going to try using a new IBM P70. Here's why I think it'll work; you NeXT folks feel free to chop my theory up and save me major disappointment tomorrow ;-) I think you can get these for around the $750 mark new and they seem (i'm using it on a macintosh quadra now) to be an outstanding monitor in terms of picture quality and flexibility. For all I can see, it's basically the same as the Sun (sony) 17" except this has onscreen programming and power management. Anyway--here's the specs: - 17" - multisync trinitron, .26mm (should sync up to 68 or 72 hz, mine will be an adb unit) - sync on green (I think NeXT and most workstations need this) - 13w3 connector on back (the NeXT uses this as well as Suns) - max resolution 1600x1200NI (should do 1152x900 without being run at maximum res.) any monitor that can match the resolution / frequency and be physically connected to the slab should work. I hope! ;-) I think the best part about this monitor is that is has the 13w3 connector built in and comes with a vga <-> 13w3 cable. Perfect for folks who use workstations and don't want to buy a dedicated monitor. In article <BRISINDA.96Jul31112823@ip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>, brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) wrote: > Hi there, > > My FIMI color monitor blew out on me and I've got some hardware guys > working on it trying to locate/fix the problem -- with little > luck. Anyway it looks like I'll be forced into the market for a new > 17" display. Can anyone provide recommendations for an affordable, > good quality 17" color monitor that works with a Turbo NeXT Color?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DvEwCD.BJM@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:31:25 GMT References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4tkt8k$8t1@pub02.va.pubnix.com> <4tlpdk$306@news.onramp.net> <DvEs3s.6w9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <DvEs3s.6w9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>, Jerry Kuch <gdkuch@barrow.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: >In article <4tlpdk$306@news.onramp.net>, >Steve Dekorte <dekorte@suite.com> wrote: >> >>The NeXT took the Apple GUI and the Sun OS and the PC >>affordability on put it in one box while at the same time making >>innovations in the GUI and development tools. >>That's pretty cool, IMHO. > >When did black hardware sell with PC affordability? I've always wondered >how much better it would have done if the economic realities of the period >it was released in would have allowed the machines to go out with more >memory and bigger disks. > When slabs came out at $5k they were a damn good deal. I'd agree that PC affordability is a bit of a stretch, but if you compare this price to that of a Sparc 1, it stands up very well. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT Cube Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DvExoE.1w2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:00:14 GMT References: <31FE9F26.223D@aol.com> <4tmm1e$l9b@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <4tmm1e$l9b@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> wrote: > >As you may suspect, these are the same type 32-pin simms 486 and 386 PC's >usually take. Since 100ns is a bit hard to find these days, 70ns will run >quite well (no benefit from faster ram however). > Yep--only thing to watch out for is "tall" SIMMs--they won't let you slide the board into the machine, as the SIMMs will run into the power supply/drive bay bracket. This got me last week. No such problems with slabs, however (which is how I solved the problem, along with a friendly slab owner's help.) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: chris@polaris.scicntr.ortn.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Real Time NT ? Date: 31 Jul 1996 22:08:14 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <4tolge$eig@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> How much closer to real time is NT than Unix ?
From: "Hasssan N. Kelley" <hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where do I get serial cables for turbo? Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 19:17:28 -0400 Organization: SSNet -- Public Internet Access in Delaware! Message-ID: <31FFE988.1083@blackstar.ssnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1. Where can I get serial cables for my color turbo? 2. Can I you plain old MAC serial cables? Thanx Hassan
From: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU (David M. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Symbios 53C825 PCI fast/wide OK? Date: 31 Jul 1996 23:02:20 GMT Organization: Colorado School of Mines Distribution: usa Message-ID: <4tools$rk2@magma.Mines.EDU> Howdy! I have seen the Symbios 53C825 SCSI controller (PCI) advertised as *fast/wide*, but seen this confirmed in this group, while the Adaptec 2940UW PCI card was in pretty good aroma. I've had good luck with a standard Symbios SCSI controller, and the 53C825 card (intended for a new machine) costs about $160(!) less than the Adaptec. The NeXTAnswers notes warn "Cmd queuing is disabled. Synchronous and wide data transfers are selectable through the Configure panel. Support for multiple adapters. Suggest upgrading Symbios BIOS to version 3.07. Some systems have experienced a hang during initialization on previous BIOS versions." Are the above (for BIOS versions newer than 3.07) bad ? Is the version 3.33 driver for OS 3.3 known to work fine for fast/wide peripherals? Any news for 4.0? Thanks! -- David M. Wood, Associate Professor Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401 Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840 http://www.physics.mines.edu/people/pages/wood.html e-mail: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
From: brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Color Monitor Specs Date: 31 Jul 1996 23:52:25 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Distribution: world Message-ID: <BRISINDA.96Jul31175225@ip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Hi there, Does anyone know where I could get the full specs for the NeXT color monitor (FIMI) on a NeXTStation Turbo? My monitor died on me a little while ago and the tech guys are having serious difficulty finding what's wrong with the display without them. Thanks, Dale -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca or dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (NeXTmail) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Recommendation for NeXT color monitor replacement/fix Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960731223803.985A-100000@charisma> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 22:39:22 -0400 References: <BRISINDA.96Jul31112823@ip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> To: Dale & <brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> In-Reply-To: <BRISINDA.96Jul31112823@ip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII here's an old post on the subject, which can also be retrieved by emailing me with subject: send-ascii replacement-monitor-black Please let me know if you find other replacement monitors Thanks TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next NeXT Printer Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html ########### BEGIN DOCUMENT: replacement-monitor-black ########### From hartley@purdue.eduThu Mar 7 10:55:38 1996 Date: 6 MAR 1996 22:46:34 GMT From: Dan Hartley <hartley@purdue.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT replacement monitor info In <4hk805$bd4@paxsunc.eng.umd.edu> Jim Leveque wrote: > Does anyone have information on a replacement NeXT monitor (FIMI, > model N4001, 17" color display megapixel). We > have located a source in Canada that sells an adaptor cable that > would allow a PC monitor with a RGB (sync on green) BNC connector > to be connected to a NeXT black box. However, the monitor they > sell (17" color -- made by Samsung, GLSI series) is very expensive, about > $1100. [...] In response to a similar question herein about a month ago, I sent the following note privately (should've posted it, methinks)... I'm using an Iiyama (nee "Idek") MF-8617 -- crisp, stable display with 135 MHz video bandwidth. Those monitors are not well known outside the CAD industry, so you may have to hunt around a bit. Cost should be less than $800. You'll need a special adapter to bring the 13W3 signal out to three BNC connectors (RGB, sync on green); those are available from computerActive for about $50. The 8617 provides two video inputs that can be switched on the fly from the front panel. Along with the BNC connection from the Turbocolor, I run video from a PC into the standard HDB15 (1152 x 900 at 80 Hz!). I bought the monitor from North American CAD; point your browser at http://www.nacad.com/ for details. You can reach computerActive at <sales@computerActive.on.ca>. -- Daniel E. Hartley Purdue University Computing Center Internet: hartley@purdue.edu 1408 Mathematical Sciences Building Voice (317)494-1787 Fax (317)494-0566 West Lafayette, IN 47907-1408 ########### END OF DOCUMENT: replacement-monitor-black ###########
From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Real Time NT ? Date: 1 Aug 1996 02:40:20 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <4tp5ek$ktj@styx.uwa.edu.au> References: <4tolge$eig@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> In article <4tolge$eig@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> chris@polaris.scicntr.ortn.edu (Operator) writes: > >How much closer to real time is NT than Unix ? Dannenberg, Thom, Grubb and Brandt of CMU assessed a number of operating systems for real time use, particularly for interactive computer music (Array 16(1) 1996). They specifically chose not to assess NS because it was Mach derived and they claimed Mach 3.0 & RT Mach had worst case delays of around 300ms. Note they didn't actually test NS. For their assessment of NT: "Usually, the delays are in the 5 to 9ms range, but a lot of activity seems to cause 30-50ms delays and a delay of 4053ms was observed! With the network disconnected and all servers shut down...the worst-case delay was well below 1ms for some time, but in an extended test (24 hours), we observed 20ms to 30ms delays on the average of every 2 hours. Our fear is that this is due to the virtual memory implementation and may be unavoidable without putting application code in device drivers." -- Leigh Smith Computer Science, University of Western Australia +61-9-380-1945 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) "In a world where success means gaining time, thinking has a single but irredeemable fault: it's a waste of time" - J-F. Lyotard
From: bbum@friday.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CogentEM960 and lockups under heavy load Date: 1 Aug 1996 03:01:38 GMT Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc. Message-ID: <4tp6mi$612@chinx10.thoughtport.net> Triton based PCI 120mHz Pentium system using adaptec 2940, cogent EMaster 960, and ELSA Winner... Running NS3.3PL1. Under heavy network load, the machine completely freezes. CPU and DISK load don't seem to matter (though, admittedly, I didn't go to great lengths to try and produce network load without disk load-- but considering that I can do three simultaneous quad-fat links of a large app, disk I/O is not a problem).... but as soon as I peg out the network load, the machine locks up after anywhere from 10 seconds to a couple of minutes of load. No kernel messages. No warning. No other symptoms. Machine is on a UPS-- incoming power is clean. CPU has a fun and runs cool. Machine is well-ventilated and the operating environment is good. Have tried with the CogentEM960 driver AND the DECChip21040 driver-- tried with all versions of each. Interestingly, it seems that the machine remains stable for slightly longer using what appears to be the slightly less effecient (it is older-- not as many optimizations?) CogentEM960 driver. As long as I don't peg out network load, machine remains 100% stable. anyone have a clue? thanks, b.bum
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CogentEM960 and lockups under heavy load Date: 1 Aug 1996 00:10:28 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.838883126@shellx> References: <4tp6mi$612@chinx10.thoughtport.net> bbum@friday.com writes: >Triton based PCI 120mHz Pentium system using adaptec 2940, cogent EMaster >960, and ELSA Winner... Running NS3.3PL1. > (machine locks up under heavy PCI network load) There were a lot of changes to the kernel between 3.3 prereleases and the final one. I would definitly make sure you're running the released 3.3 kernel and latest drivers at least. If that doesn't do the trick, well maybe it's a hard problem, sorry! cheers, -sam
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where did you get the IDE drivers? Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 07:57:40 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1996Aug1.075740.8524@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <4tob6o$17sa@rtpnews.raleigh.ibm.com> In article <4tob6o$17sa@rtpnews.raleigh.ibm.com> duxford@ writes: > Trying to test Nextstep with a system with a P6/200 with 32 Meg of RAM > The system has an S3 Trio 64V+ 86C765 Chip set IBM Vidio adapter. With > an on board EIDE controller on board. Durring the installation I tell it that I > am using IDE and everthing seams to load to the harddrive however after the > load and the system reboots and comes back getting to a condition that looks > like to me is that it was unable to find a hard drive and could not go any > futher. Using NEXTSTEP 3.3 for intel processors. The initial boot (i.e. kernel load) is done using BIOS calls. When it reboots, NeXTSTEP then loads the device drivers, and attempts to access the disk via its own drivers. If you fail at this point, you know that you have a good, working disk, but that either your driver is misconfigured, or that the driver doesn't support your configuration. For IDE, NeXT seems only to want to find the drive as master on the first channel, at least initially. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: jut@ukrv.de (J.-U. Thieme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where did you get the IDE drivers? Date: 1 Aug 1996 08:15:04 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4tpp28$jqk@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <4tob6o$17sa@rtpnews.raleigh.ibm.com> Cc: duxford@ In <4tob6o$17sa@rtpnews.raleigh.ibm.com> duxford@ wrote: > Trying to test Nextstep with a system with a P6/200 with 32 Meg of RAM > The system has an S3 Trio 64V+ 86C765 Chip set IBM Vidio adapter. With > an on board EIDE controller on board. Durring the installation I tell it that I > am using IDE and everthing seams to load to the harddrive however after the > load and the system reboots and comes back getting to a condition that looks > like to me is that it was unable to find a hard drive and could not go any > futher. Using NEXTSTEP 3.3 for intel processors. > > A short answer, look in the NeXTanswers with the number : 1933_EIDE_and_ATAPI_CDROM_Support_in_NEXTSTEP_3.3 or boot with the "-v" option on the bootprompt. Any ATAPI-CDROM´s can you not use for installing NeXTStep (Sony is ok), good thats all... CIAO JUT -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.- U. Thieme - -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jut@ukrv.de or jut@rz.charite.hu-berlin.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 66127 - - fax: +49 30 450 66937 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - --------------------------------------------------------------
From: peter@mathworks.com (Peter Greis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 1 Aug 1996 14:06:04 GMT Organization: The MathWorks, Inc., Natick, MA 01760 Message-ID: <4tqdkc$ssb@turing.mathworks.com> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <31FCD641.48D1@msi.se> <jburne-2907962125510001@ad08-046.compuserve.com> John Burnette (jburne@sprynet.com) wrote: : In article <31FCD641.48D1@msi.se>, Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> wrote: : : : > I browsed through the pages and while reading them I got depressed. What : is NeXT now : > compared to the early 90s? They sell tools instead of a vision. The : NeXTstation was : > the best computer ever built so far and it will probably take a long : time until we see : > another "insanely great" thing. : > : > Harald : : Personally I'm saving my pennies for a BeBox Just got one... The Bebox is a Very Cool Thing(tm) -p
From: Kevin Koym <kkoym@praxsys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Cube Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 12:51:09 -0500 Organization: Praxsys System Development, Inc. Message-ID: <3200EE8D.44F1@praxsys.com> References: <31FE9F26.223D@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gene Gibson JR! wrote: > > Greetings > > I just got my first Cube today and I'd like to know if anyone could tell me > what type of SIMMS i would ask for.I have a Mono 040 Cube. > > Thanks in advance > > Gene Gibson JR! If it is a turbo system, I believe that you use 72 pin simms, flavors 1, 4, or 16Mb (I do not know if the 8's or the 32's work). If it is an older style cube, you use 30 pin 1Mb and 4Mb simms. I believe that anything faster than 100ns will be wasted, and that parity or non parity memory can be used. I hope that helps. Kevin
From: ssharma@Newbridge.COM (Samir Sharma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Strange Power Supply Prob. Date: 1 Aug 1996 17:19:47 GMT Organization: Newbridge Networks Corporation Distribution: World Message-ID: <4tqovj$5ji@kannews.ca.newbridge.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Strange Power Supply Prob. Expires: Sender: ssharma@newbridge.com Followup-To: ssharma@newbridge.com Distribution: World Organization: Newbridge Networks Corporation Cc: Had a strange problem with a NeXTstation 040 power supply. I have been using this machine with no problems for about 8 months and then I moved to an different city. I didn't even let the movers take the machine since I was concerned that they might damage it. I move it myself and am pretty sure that there was a minimal amount of bumping and banging of the machine. Now when I plug the machine in, there is nothing. No power at all. The cooling fan doesn't spin, the monitor doesn't light up, no clicks nothing. I checked to see if there was any voltage over the pins of the power supply connecting to the system board and there was none there. I then thought that the power supply had died. I got a new power supply and the same thing happens....nothing. Someone suggested that it was not working because the power outlets were not grounded. I have even tried hooking the machine up to the power outlet in the bathroom saver outlet but there is still nothing. Any advice? Thanks! -- ************************************************* * Samir Sharma * * Newbridge Networks Corporation * * 600 March Rd., Kanata, Ontario *
From: ronp@sol5.cs.wisc.edu (Ronp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: 1 Aug 1996 20:30:22 GMT Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Message-ID: <4tr44u$h05@spool.cs.wisc.edu> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4tkt8k$8t1@pub02.va.pubnix.com> <4tlpdk$306@news.onramp.net> <DvEs3s.6w9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> In article <DvEs3s.6w9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>, Jerry Kuch <gdkuch@barrow.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: >When did black hardware sell with PC affordability? I've always wondered >how much better it would have done if the economic realities of the period >it was released in would have allowed the machines to go out with more >memory and bigger disks. I bought my NeXT slab instead of a Mac, it was earlier than the Quadra and the Quadra was more expensive when it became available. In addition, I saved on the Laser printer. Ron
From: alex@starside.rhein-main.de (Alexander F.E. Seggerman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD-R Date: 1 Aug 1996 20:56:09 GMT Organization: Individual Network - Rhein-Main Message-ID: <4tr5l9$4qh@odb.rhein-main.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Do I have to enter a fstag or similar for my new Yamaha CDR102 CD-Writer ?? If I just plug it into the SCSI Bus (yes everything is terminated, unique IDs etc.) it somehow is jamming the SCSI Bus (error msgs: Resetting SCSI Bus ... I/O Timeout) thanks alex -- ____________________________________________________________________ Alexander Seggerman Non Electronic: Electronic: Berger Straße 157 mailto: alex@starside.rhein-main.de D-60385 Frankfurt (NeXTMail & Mime & ASCII) Germany http://www.rhein-main.de/~pstarsid/ Phone: ++49 (69) 468104 FAX: Sorry no FAX
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: BeBox (Was: Images of NeXT sales brochures) Date: 1 Aug 1996 21:38:39 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4tr84v$gv0@news.onramp.net> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <31FCD641.48D1@msi.se> <jburne-2907962125510001@ad08-046.compuserve.com> <4tqdkc$ssb@turing.mathworks.com> Cc: peter@mathworks.com Peter Greis wrote: > Harald Ellmann wrote: > : Personally I'm saving my pennies for a BeBox > > Just got one... The Bebox is a Very Cool Thing(tm) BeBox HW: Neat idea, but for the price of a PC + BeBox dual 66Mhz PPC processor board, I can just buy a 200Mhz Pentuim PC which is faster and will run a ton of OSes and software, including NeXTstep. Neat IO ports though. And X10 libs are cool. BeBox software: No shrinkwrapped app market. Bundled apps don't compare to NeXTstep. Development environment is C++.(ack) What (IMO) would make the BeBox worth buying: HW: ~2 or more times the performance of a Intel box for the same price. (Maybe a 4 PPC board + PC for the price of a 200Mhz Pentium PC) Software: If it had a dynamic OO language (Objective-C, Smalltalk, Self). Needs easy inet connectivity, NeXT quality Email, NewsBrowsers, latest web browser support, latest web servers, etc. -- Steve Dekorte - OpenStep Developer - Anaheim, CA "Fundamentalism isn't about religion. It's about power." - S. Rushdie
From: svail@next.com (Scott Vail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Driver for SMC EtherPower PCI Ethernet Adapter? Date: 1 Aug 1996 17:41:24 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4tqq84$c9e@news.next.com> References: <spaiDv2KII.H3I@netcom.com> In article <spaiDv2KII.H3I@netcom.com> spai@netcom.com (Suresh Pai) writes: > Hello > Is there a driver for SMC EtherPower PCI Ethernet Adapter combo > in NEXTSTEP 3.3 or OpenStep 4.0 for mach? > > Thanks > > suresh You will probably need to get the DECchip21040NetworkDriver from NextAnswers. (http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1881.htmld/1881.html) -- This is not official NeXT stuff, so ignore me if you want. http://www.next.com/~svail/
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Q: High speed CD ROMs Date: 1 Aug 1996 23:13:12 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <4trdm8$huk@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hi, I have a ColorStation 25MHz and I would like to buy a new CD ROM for it. Should I be careful about the speed of the CD ROM, or can I just buy an 8x speed drive and plug it in? I am afraid of the station not being able to transfer the data fast enough so that the drive would occasionally have to spin the disk one more turn to continue where the computer choked. Which would cripple the performance. Please respond to blazek@stt.msu.edu Thanks, have a nice day. Rudy.
From: bihkrch@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Raymond Chu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Newbie question on dead mono '40 monitor Date: 1 Aug 1996 20:24:00 -0500 Organization: Educational Computing Network Message-ID: <4trlbg$fp5@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu> Okay Next Guru's...i need help. I have just gotten a NextStation. I am not sure what it is. It has 8 simm slots separated into 2 banks of 4 30 pin slots. Since it used 30 pin slots, I thought it was an '30. However, after installing NextStep 3.3 (and borrowing another monitor), the OS told me it was a '40. So first things first. 1) Is there any difference btw a '30 and '40 black monitor? If so, how do I tell what I have? 2) Do I have to get another 17' next monitor? or can i just get a generic SVGA PC monitor with the 1W3RGB connector on back. 3) Finally , if i do get a Next monitor..how much do expect to pay for a refurbished bright one? Bell Atlantic quoted me $550 which I thought was outrageous. email is preferred and I will summarize responses many TIA's eric chu echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Where do I get serial cables for turbo? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DvH1nL.opz@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:21:21 GMT References: <31FFE988.1083@blackstar.ssnet.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <31FFE988.1083@blackstar.ssnet.com>, Hasssan N. Kelley <hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com> wrote: >1. Where can I get serial cables for my color turbo? > Don't know of a place that sells them... >2. Can I you plain old MAC serial cables? > No. You can make them, however, by looking in the online Librarian documetnation (in an appendix--I don't recall the name but it's fairly obvious) or the man page for zs. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Cube Date: 1 Aug 1996 21:07:00 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <4tr69k$286@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <31FE9F26.223D@aol.com> <4tmm1e$l9b@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Mine's got 16 4x9 60ns (I think) SIMMs in it. It'll complain the first time it boots with the new memory configuration (it's just adjusting itself), but most anything that physically fits ought to work. Weird mixtures might give you trouble. They go in in sets of four, so if you've an odd pair, you might want to leave them out. Lots of memory is good. I like my cube even better since I changed the 1x8s for 4x9s. One of these days I'd like to try even more memory to see if it works, but it's hardly swapping now! ab
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Newbie question on dead mono '40 monitor Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:21:47 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <DvIFoC.F0A@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <4trlbg$fp5@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu> In article <4trlbg$fp5@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu> bihkrch@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Raymond Chu) writes: > Okay Next Guru's...i need help. > > I have just gotten a NextStation. I am not sure what it is. > It has 8 simm slots separated into 2 banks of 4 30 pin slots. > > Since it used 30 pin slots, I thought it was an '30. All slabs are 040's - only the cube was released wiht an 030 in it. > So first things first. > > 1) Is there any difference btw a '30 and '40 black > monitor? If so, how do I tell what I have? Kind of yes! The 030 monitors didn't have a mic built in. However this is not critical (you just need to plug one in externally if you need it). I also have seen a monitor with a different keyboard connected (no NOT an adb), so they may have changed that (though that could have been a prototype which wasn't publicly released). > 2) Do I have to get another 17' next monitor? Kind of... > can i just get a generic SVGA PC monitor with the > 1W3RGB connector on back. No :-( If nothing else, where would you plug your keyboard? If you're handy with a soldering iron it MIGHT be possible, but I haven't heard of anyone who's managed it. The Monitor contains bits of sound hardware, and keyboard stuff which would need to be extracted. Colour systems use a standard monitor, and an external sound box. > 3) Finally , if i do get a Next monitor..how much > do expect to pay for a refurbished bright one? > Bell Atlantic quoted me $550 which I thought was > outrageous. You can pick up an entire machine for that price (at least in the US - unfortunatly I'm in the UK and have to pay far more :-(). Unfortunatly this appears to be the most const effective approach. If you do pick up a new machine you can still use the old machine without a monitor/keyboard attached, as a generic Unix box. You could always try taking the monitor down to your local TV repair shop! Messing around in the back of monitors is a simple, but dangerous job [ie don't try this at home kids]. There's not really that much to a mono monitor, so it may be that a competent repair guy could take alook at it for you. What have you got to loose, and your local guy will charge much less than an official NeXT service center (and if it doesn't fly he probably won't charge). $an
From: peter@mathworks.com (Peter Greis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: BeBox (Was: Images of NeXT sales brochures) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 2 Aug 1996 13:35:40 GMT Organization: The MathWorks, Inc., Natick, MA 01760 Message-ID: <4tt07c$mfh@turing.mathworks.com> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Steve Dekorte (dekorte@suite.com) wrote: : BeBox HW: : : Neat idea, but for the price of a PC + BeBox dual 66Mhz PPC processor board, : I can just buy a 200Mhz Pentuim PC which is faster and will run a ton of OSes : and software, including NeXTstep. : Neat IO ports though. And X10 libs are cool. : : BeBox software: : : No shrinkwrapped app market. : Bundled apps don't compare to NeXTstep. : Development environment is C++.(ack) : : What (IMO) would make the BeBox worth buying: : : HW: : ~2 or more times the performance of a Intel box for the same price. : (Maybe a 4 PPC board + PC for the price of a 200Mhz Pentium PC) : : Software: : If it had a dynamic OO language (Objective-C, Smalltalk, Self). : Needs easy inet connectivity, NeXT quality Email, NewsBrowsers, : latest web browser support, latest web servers, etc. : Yes, but here price is a factor as well... you can buy a 200MHz Pentium with NeXTStep (dev bundle) for $2000 ? Don't get me wrong, I love my cube. Just give the Bebox a fair shake, it hasn't even been offered to the general public yet. -p
From: bhu@top.cis.syr.edu (Bing Hu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Emergency! Boot Disk Failure Date: 2 Aug 1996 14:58:02 GMT Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <4tt51q$o5r@newstand.syr.edu> Hi! Everyone: This is a real emergency. Our main file server crashed today. When rebooted, I got the following message after successful testing. " booting SCSI target 0 , lun0, didn't complete waiting for drive to come ready _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ " And just waiting forever. Same thing when I try to boot from singer user mode. This server is a "black kit", running NS3.2 , boot rountine is "sd -nbu=128", an externl boot disk. There is another external disk connected to the boot disk. Is that because the boot disk is corrupted ? Should I bring out the boot disk, and connect to another NeXT machine to run fsck repair it ? If that is the case, when I connect the boot disk to other Next machine, how do I make sure the disk is properly terminated before adding on. (Is that just make sure no other external disk connect to it, and not connect to any other network). And the current external boot disk has SCSI device ID "0", does it matter when added to another NeXT machine, the ID changed ? After repair, will the external server still can boot up and work as the main file server for the local network ? Thanks in advance for your help ! Bing Hu Tel: (315)-443-1588(o); FAX: (315)-443-1475 Email:bhu@top.cis.syr.edu; URL:http://www.cis.syr.edu/~bhu Netscape2.0+ Running Java
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: turning on a next station. Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960802112719.24530A-100000@charisma> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:28:11 -0400 To: Nick Potkay <npotkay@integ.micrognosis.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If it is the battery, here's the ordering info (from an old post): The BR 2/3A is a discontinued designation. The new battery designation is CR123. These are available at any camera shop for about $9 each. TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next NeXT Printer Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: turning on a next station. Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960802111346.24475E-100000@charisma> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:20:35 -0400 To: Nick Potkay <npotkay@integ.micrognosis.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Nick Potkay wrote: > Forgive my ignorance, but I could not find any information regarding > turning on a nextstation. That's forgivable.... crossposting this message to every existing NeXT newsgroup might not be :-) > This machine has been in the closet for who knows how long and we > would like to get rid of it. The keyboard has a power key on it, > but just hitting that key doesnt turn the machine on. > > What is the key sequence to turn on the machine? the power key should be it. If the plug is in to an outlet which has power (don't laugh! I know someone who plugged in their NeXT to an outlet controlled by a switch across the room and didn't know it and couldn't get the machine on..... ok yes it was me, but we had just moved into the new apartment...) Anyway, you might check fuses, power supply, or sell it as-is to someone like me who'd be willing to figure it out... > Also - I am pretty sure that the machine has a root passwd, (which I dont > know). How do I go about putting this beast into single user mode? Well the good news is that the battery is probably dead, so the hardware password is probably gone. If not, remove the case to the slab and remove the battery for X minutes. But the battery back in and when the machine powers up hit control-control-~ which will dump you into the ROM monitor. Then type 'bsd-s' which will boot you into single user mode. Feel free to email me if you have more questions.... I might (90% chance) have info on NeXT power supplies somewhere on this HD.... TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next NeXT Printer Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html
From: bbum@friday.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CogentEM960 and lockups under heavy load Date: 2 Aug 1996 15:23:21 GMT Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc. Message-ID: <4tt6h9$df9@chinx10.thoughtport.net> References: <4tp6mi$612@chinx10.thoughtport.net> <sams.838883126@shellx> <wulofyanlh.fsf@fountainhead.granite.com> #Re: CogentEM960 and lockups under heavy load #by Rakesh Dubey, GRANITE Systems, Inc. In article <sams.838883126@shellx> sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) writes: > > bbum@friday.com writes: > >Triton based PCI 120mHz Pentium system using adaptec 2940, cogent EMaster > >960, and ELSA Winner... Running NS3.3PL1. > > (machine locks up under heavy PCI network load) > > There were a lot of changes to the kernel between 3.3 prereleases > and the final one. I would definitly make sure you're running > the released 3.3 kernel and latest drivers at least. > > If that doesn't do the trick, well maybe it's a hard problem, sorry! > > cheers, > -sam # He seems to be running 3.3 with patch level 1 (not PR1). I suspect # that you are probably running out of kernel memory. Try running # vmstat (there is some option that prints amount of free memory # every so many seconds). If I am correct you would see the available # free memory go down to very small amount. # # I am surprised that you find the original Cogent driver to be # more stable. Probably you are transmitting much more data than # receiving. That driver had a serious flaw. It is Patchlevel 1... It turns out that the Network driver must be initialized before the SCSI driver or else, under heavy loads, the Cogent can cause the machine to lock up completely. This was verified with Cogent's technical support [Which, by the way, was incredibly fast and answered my question thouroughly w/followups!]. So, by moving the reference to the network driver from the "Active Drivers" to the very beginning of the "Boot Drivers" attribute in /usr/lib/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table, my machine is now 100% stable [though it now exhibits an occasionally 1-4 second 'pause'-- but that's better than locking up completely]. I suspect the original Cogent driver was only more stable in that it was less effecient and, therefore, was less likely to trigger the heavy-load lock-up. [and, yes, for the test that caused the lock up, I was sending far more traffic than receiving]. b.bum
From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2940 SCSI board and Plexor CDROM Date: 2 Aug 1996 17:57:51 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ttfiv$j1e@news.acns.nwu.edu> I have what I hope is a small problem that someone else knows the solution. MY CDROM does not spin up. I can not eject the cd from it unless I use the manual (paperclip) eject. I have a Micron Millenia P120 that I recently replaced the Adaptec 1541C IDE SCSI controller withan Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller. On the SCSI bus I'll have the following (eventually): LUN 2: Seagate ST3655 LUN 3: IOMEGA 1GB JAZ drive LUN 6: Plexor PX-63CS CDROM. I just loaded the latest NeXT driver for the 2940. Currently for testing I have removed the Jaz drive. Anyway when I run SCSI_Inspector I get the following error in my console/executing shell when I querey LUN 6, the CDROM. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ IOReq failed! sr_io_status = 2, sr_scsi_status = 2, dma_xfer = 0, dma_max = 200 Bytes Transferred: 0 of max: 200 Driver Status: Check target status and extended sense Target Status: CHECK CONDITION - Abnormal condition occured Extended Sense: Illegal request ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The following is what appears in the SCSI Inspector/Information window ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inquiry Command SCSI Target #: 6 Device Type: CD-ROM Vendor ID: PLEXTOR Product ID: CD-ROM PX-6XCS Revision: 1.00 ANSI Standard: X.131-198X (SCSI-2) Relative Addressing: No 32 Bit Wide Transfers: No 16 Bit Wide Transfers: No Synchronous Transfers: Yes Linked Commands: Yes Tagged Command Queuing: No Soft Reset: No Mode Parameter Header Medium Type: Default (only one type supported) (00h) Density Code: Default density code (00h) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The following is what appears in the SCSI Inspector/Diagnostics window ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Generic Diagnostics Test Unit Ready: Fail (Unit not Ready) Self Check: Fail ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Has anyone got an idea whats going on with my machine? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: bill@otherwise.com (Bill Tschumy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Using NeXT 21 inch Color Monitor on non-NeXT hardware Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 18:56:49 GMT Organization: Otherwise -- Austin, TX Message-ID: <32024ef3.19858942@news3.realtime.net> I would like to take my NeXT 21 inch color monitor and use it on a PC-compatible box. Is this just a matter of getting the right cable to go from the monitor to the PC box? Thanks ----- Bill Tschumy Otherwise -- Austin, TX Creators of Artificial Life bill@otherwise.com
From: chang@panix.com (Ray Chang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does Seagate ST51080N drive work with NeXT hardware? Date: 2 Aug 1996 15:43:32 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Distribution: usa Message-ID: <4ttlp4$rtb@panix2.panix.com> Hi, I was reading the NeXT-FAQ and it lists the Seagate ST51080N as one of the scsi drives that don't work with NeXT hardware. However, I just bought the same Segate drive (before reading the FAQ,) and was able to install from scratch from CDROM on a Color station. Everything seems to be working fine so far. Anybody know why this drive was listed as incompatible with NeXT hardware, and will I have problem later? Thanks, Ray chang@panix.com
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: BeBox (Was: Images of NeXT sales brochures) Date: 2 Aug 1996 20:21:58 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4tto16$9rv@news.onramp.net> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <4tt07c$mfh@turing.mathworks.com> Cc: peter@mathworks.com Peter Greis wrote: > Steve Dekorte wrote: > : What (IMO) would make the BeBox worth buying: > : > : HW: > : ~2 or more times the performance of a Intel box for the same price. > : (Maybe a 4 PPC board + PC for the price of a 200Mhz Pentium PC) > : > : Software: > : If it had a dynamic OO language (Objective-C, Smalltalk, Self)... > > Yes, but here price is a factor as well... you can buy a 200MHz Pentium > with NeXTStep (dev bundle) for $2000 ? Don't get me wrong, I love my cube. Well, I don't mind paying as much for the dev tools as I would on Intel. Problem is, the BeBox has no dynamic OO dev tools to offer. > Just give the Bebox a fair shake, it hasn't even been offered to the > general public yet. I'm not trying to put Be down, I like the idea of what they're doing. I'm just suggesting what (IMO) would make their stuff worth buying. -- Steve Dekorte - OpenStep Developer - Anaheim, CA "Fundamentalism isn't about religion. It's about power." - S. Rushdie
From: singer@aluminum.mps.ohio-state.edu. (Sherwin Singer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: autonfsmount woes Date: 2 Aug 1996 21:06:10 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Mathematics Message-ID: <4ttqk2$epo@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Keywords: nfs, autonfsmount We have a Next (68K-Black hardware) running NeXTStep 3.2 We are using autonfsmount to mount filesystems from a Sun Workstation (amoung others). The Next can mount the three filesystems from the Sun Workstation manually just fine. Therefore, the export of the filesystems to the NeXT from the Sun is setup correctly. The Next seems to mount the highest one (here /home) and not even make the attempt to mount the lower two (here /home/faculty and /home/www). In fact the command 'df' reports three mounts of the same filesystem (they are in fact different as can be seen by the output of a 'df' command executed on the Sun Workstation). next_prompt> df sun_host:/home/faculty 1972602 907551 867791 51% /private/Net/chemistry/home/faculty sun_host:/home/www 1972602 907551 867791 51% /private/Net/chemistry/home/www sun_host:/home 1972602 907551 867791 51% /private/Net/chemistry/home sun_prompt> df Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/dsk/c0t3d0s0 38343 24488 10025 71% / /dev/dsk/c0t2d0s5 1972602 907624 867718 51% /home /dev/dsk/c0t2d0s6 1854288 117417 1551451 7% /home/www /dev/dsk/c0t5d0s4 986293 46296 841377 5% /home/faculty The autonfsmount daemon is started from the /etc/rc file thusly: /usr/etc/autonfsmount -tm 10 -tl 43200 -a /private -m /Net -fstab \ && (echo -n ' autonfsmount') >/dev/console 2>&1 The netinfo fstab data is as follows: next_prompt> nidump fstab / | grep sun_host sun_host:/home /Net nfs net 0 0 sun_host:/home/www /Net nfs net 0 0 sun_host:/home/faculty /Net nfs intr,net,mnttimeo=60,retrans=10 0 0 There are quite a few entries in the fstab netinfo map, 33 actually. Has anyone seen this problem? Any clues on how to solve it? Please respond directly via E-mail. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dr. Steven Parker support@chemistry.ohio-state.edu Dept of Chemistry 2102 Newman & Wolfrom Lab. Ohio State University 614-292-0848 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: patrice@columbia.cs.ubc.ca (Patrice Belleville) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Sound Out Test fails Date: 02 Aug 1996 14:28:38 -0700 Organization: University of British Columbia Sender: patrice@columbia.cs.ubc.ca Message-ID: <yztafwda323.fsf@columbia.cs.ubc.ca> Cc: patrice@cs.ubc.ca Hi, Suddenly, my slab (non-turbo, non-color) has started hanging on the Sound Out test when first powered on. I can interrupt the test and boot, and everything seems to work fine... EXCEPT that as soon as I do something that causes it to beep, the window server freezes and I have to exit to the NMI (I can't even get it to shut itself down in an orderly fashion). I can, however, use the console without problems (although of course I can't do much more than editing and dialing out). This seems to be a hardware problem, but not knowing much about hardware I do not have a clue as to where the problem lies. Has anyone ever had this problem before? I would appreciate any suggestions or solutions (even a way to get the window server to run properly without sound output would be helpful). Thanks, Patrice -- /************************************************************************\ |* Patrice Belleville patrice@cs.ubc.ca *| |* - The University of British Columbia does not know I have opinions - *| \************************************************************************/
From: andrew@inxpress.net (Andrew M. Priasmoro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 on IBM Thinkpad 701? Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 19:39:20 -0400 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <andrew-0208961939200001@204.120.5.128> Dear NeXTer, Does anyone know if it's possible to install NEXTSTEP 3.3 on IBM Thinkpad 701 laptop? Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Andrew.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mccleave@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca (Rob McCleave) Subject: Re: Mac box for NeXT Message-ID: <DvIxHr.7sJ@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca> Organization: Natural Resources Canada, Ottawa References: <4tgpc4$kn@celebrian.otago.ac.nz> <4th84e$gar@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 18:46:38 GMT Robert Worne (rworne@primenet.com) wrote: : alastair@csarc.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) wrote: : >Hi all, : >Some time ago I saw some information on a box that plugged into a NeXT (DSP : >port I think) that contained Mac ROMS and allowed a NeXT to operate as a : Mac. : > ... : It's called Daydream, and it really works. The compatibility is excellent, ... : I still rate it an A+. You will never believe you aren't really running a : Mac. OK, who makes it, is it still available, and how much does it cost? -- Rob McCleave CANMET ETC Natural Resources Canada mccleave@NRCan.gc.ca
From: paul@xciv.org (Paul Civati) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Soundblaster 16 PnP Date: 3 Aug 1996 20:31:18 GMT Organization: XCIV Message-ID: <4u0cum$7r@xciv.demon.co.uk> References: <4t6dcp$10n@xciv.demon.co.uk> <4t88p6$80@xciv.demon.co.uk> <4t92d3$su2@news.cis.nctu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <4t92d3$su2@news.cis.nctu.edu.tw>, f122092955@mail.chinatrust.com.tw (Cheng-chun Chou) writes: >>Should I lock these settings, disable PnP is the NeXTSTEP ISA driver? > > hmm.....let me ask you the question..... > did your mainboard bios support pnp future? Erm, nope, don't think so. I've had the card working fine under Windows though, well I did, until something munged Windows somewhere and now Windows doesn't run at all. ;) > after you install ICU and setting up the pnp card then reboot > you will see the message "ESCD update successfully", then you will see > the bios show all your pnp card's name... > That's mean the pnp information is already write into your mainboard's > cmos..... Ahh. >>Using MSD I can't see how the card would be conflicting with the serial >>ports, they don't seem to be conflicting with the i/o address or irq's. >> >>Configure.app doesn't report any conflicts. > > MSD is SUCK, USELESS, and HELPLESS............ Ok. :) > I am very surprise why mouse use port address 220h..:0 Sorry, my wording was misleading, the SB is at 0x220h. > Is your mouse use com1 or com2? Because........ > com1 default port address value is 3f8h > com2 default port address value is 2f8h COM1, and yes 0x03f8h. > maybe it's time to upgrade 2 dirvers for NeXTSTEP > ISASerialPort DeviceDriver and SerialPointing DeviceDriver I guess that's the next sensible option. It's very strange though, why it's interfering with the mouse. I do also have an Intel Ether Express Pro/10 living at 0x300, irq 10. -Paul- -- Paul Civati =O= Home: paul@xciv.org =O= http://www.xciv.org/ London UK =O= Home: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk =O= Slackware is.
From: paul@xciv.org (Paul Civati) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Soundblaster 16 PnP Date: 3 Aug 1996 20:34:56 GMT Organization: XCIV Message-ID: <4u0d5g$7r@xciv.demon.co.uk> References: <4t88p6$80@xciv.demon.co.uk> <4tams0$1ev@news.onramp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <4tams0$1ev@news.onramp.net>, dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer) writes: >>Should I lock these settings, disable PnP is the NeXTSTEP ISA driver? > ? ICU settings will not be retained under NS, AFAIK. I didn't think it seemed to be retaining them. > If you have a chance, give my shipping config a try: Ok. > Try the 3.32 vers. of the Soundblaster driver (16 bit, 2 DMAs works...) > and either 3.31 or 3.32 of the EISAbus driver, with PnP _disabled_. The I can't remember what drivers I have now ;), but I've tried with PnP disabled and even with the non PnP driver. Both detect the card, but still the mouse conflict problem. Guess I'll try upgrading the 2 relevent serial drivers next. > sound works, kind of off and one, but whatever hangs shows up in > SoundCheck.app as muting, so you can reset it. Not wonderful, but the > best answer I have as yet been able to come up with. Thanks for the help. -Paul- -- Paul Civati =O= Home: paul@xciv.org =O= http://www.xciv.org/ London UK =O= Home: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk =O= Slackware is.
From: ssharma@Newbridge.COM (Samir Sharma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Strange Power Supply Prob. Date: 3 Aug 1996 18:31:54 GMT Organization: Newbridge Networks Corporation Distribution: World Message-ID: <4u05uq$nlu@kannews.ca.newbridge.com> References: <4tqovj$5ji@kannews.ca.newbridge.com> > Now when I plug the machine in, there is nothing. No power at all. For anyone who is interested in what went wrong. I got the solution from Art, who E-Mailed me. It seem like the Lithium battery on the motherboard was run down. I tested the battery and found it to be at under 1V, whereas it is supposed to be at 3V. I thought (for some starnge reason) that the battery was rechargible and thought nothing of it. It wasn't and that was the problem all along. The battery provides the power for the relay to turn the power to the rest of the machine off an on. Problem solved. -- ************************************************* * Samir Sharma * * Newbridge Networks Corporation * * 600 March Rd., Kanata, Ontario *
From: gdavis@shentel.net (Greg Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where do I get serial cables for turbo? Date: 4 Aug 1996 02:28:08 GMT Organization: Fighter Grafix Message-ID: <gdavis-0308962219320001@eb1ppp9.shentel.net> References: <31FFE988.1083@blackstar.ssnet.com> In article <31FFE988.1083@blackstar.ssnet.com>, hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com wrote: > 1. Where can I get serial cables for my color turbo? > > 2. Can I you plain old MAC serial cables? > > Thanx > > Hassan Mac cables have different pin-outs and will NOT work. I would suggest either Jim Mooseman at: MTECH - James_Moosmann<moose@interpath.com> 5506 Silchester Lane Charlotte, NC 28215 704-598-7141 (Voice) 704-598-7870 (Fax) or Dancing Bear (Tim Griswold) @ 808-875-2456, info@dancingbear.com The cables run about 20 buck + shipping Greg
From: ischo@bubble.yonsei.ac.kr (cho in sung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ET6000 and NS3.3 Date: 31 Jul 1996 08:31:49 GMT Organization: Yonsei University Message-ID: <4tn5ll$nh1@exodus.yonsei.ac.kr> I just bought ET6000 and P166 system, and I would like to use NS3.3 in that configuration. Firstly I used ET4000 driver that is supplied by NS CD-ROM, and I got 1024x768 2 color (b&w) screen. Since I want to use color, I download the ET4000w32p driver provided by Tseng Lab., from http://www.tseng.com. But it doesn't work, and only I got black screen. I tried every configuration, and use fix_display command in rc.local, but in vain. Can I use color NS in my system? Thank you in advance. Insung Cho ischo@bubble.yonsei.ac.kr
From: darkon@netins.net (Tehrasha Darkon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac box for NeXT Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 04:16:16 -0500 Organization: Darkon Industries Message-ID: <darkon-0408960416160001@news.netins.net> References: <4tgpc4$kn@celebrian.otago.ac.nz> <4th84e$gar@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <DvIxHr.7sJ@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <DvIxHr.7sJ@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>, mccleave@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca (Rob McCleave) wrote: >Robert Worne (rworne@primenet.com) wrote: >: alastair@csarc.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) wrote: >: >Hi all, >: >Some time ago I saw some information on a box that plugged into a NeXT (DSP >: >port I think) that contained Mac ROMS and allowed a NeXT to operate as a >: Mac. >: > >... >: It's called Daydream, and it really works. The compatibility is excellent, >... >: I still rate it an A+. You will never believe you aren't really running a >: Mac. > >OK, who makes it, is it still available, and how much does it cost? > >-- >Rob McCleave >CANMET ETC >Natural Resources Canada >mccleave@NRCan.gc.ca Saw your original post and got interested....found this. http://www.csn.net/NEXTSTEP/Products/DayDream.htmld/ _________,---------.____------.___ Don't disturb sleeping dragons! /_______ `--._______ `--.____ \\ They don't disturb you do they? /__.-' `-----.____ `--.____\\`_/_ ,' ___ `---.___ ___// `-. DARKON@netins.net / _.-' )' ``---' \ \ Vaporware Archive Site / / | . ' | / / / | ' ___ ) | | Going around and around on the | | | _/` _ ` _,' _ `/) ' | information super-collider. \_ `--._\__`--'_\-___ _,-' '-` __ / `---.____ `--.__-_ /_)____, __/ ,`-' The easiest way to a mans heart, `------__> `-------(/(/-'-\)\) is through his chest! "I spent the night at Shardik Castle and, stars, was I bored!" --Kennet R'yal Shardik
From: lkilsaa@image.dk (Lars Kilsaa Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: BusLogic 948/958 and NEXSTEP 3.3 Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 09:59:58 GMT Organization: Image Scandinavia Message-ID: <4u1vkp$a13@ns2.image.dk> Hi Will the BusLogicSCSIDriver for NEXTSTEP 3.3 work with the BusLogic BT-948 and BT-958 SCSI Controller? Yours Lars Kilsaa Jensen e-mail: lkjensen@dannug.dk lkilsaa@image.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199608041217.IAA06893@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 96 08:17:22 -0400 Subject: Q: 'disk' command: "label" vs "name" Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com For no apparent reason, at any time, my SyQuest EZ135 "loses" it's label, and this message appears in the console.log: " sd2: UNIT ATTENTION sd2 (2,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd2 (2,0): sense key:0x6 additional sense code:0x29 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) " (sd2a is the EZ drive) First I am wondering if anyone know how/why this is happening. Secondly I am wondering if I am fixing it correctly or not. Here is what I do when it loses the label: [note: charisma is the hostname, and the EZ should be mounted at /Backups] shellprompt> disk -h charisma -l Backups /dev/rsd2a disk name: SyQuest EZ135S disk type: removable_rw_scsi Disk utility disk> name no label on disk disk> label label information: print, write? w writing disk label disk> name enter disk label name: Backups disk> quit And then I run fsck on it: shellprompt> fsck -Pp /dev/rsd2a The part which most concerns me is the "label" function within the 'disk' command. Mostly this stems from my lack of understanding of: 1) what the difference is between the "label" and the "name" 2) what the difference is between the "h" and the "H" flag, and the "l" and the "L" flag. I have read the disk manpage repeatedly, but I'm wondering if I am using the wrong process to put the label on, which is why it keeps vanishing at random times and places. 3) do I need to do anything else before I quit the disk program after I enter the name after "enter disk label name:"? This error only seems to occur when something is actively trying to access the disk (ie it doesn't just happen when it is just sitting there) but I suppose that may just be when the OS is finding out there is a problem. Thanks for any help TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next NeXT Printer Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: psi@fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki) Subject: Re: Newbie question on dead mono '40 monitor Message-ID: <DvM7yM.9uG@fortune.nest.or.jp> Sender: psi@fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki) Cc: ians@cam-ani.co.uk References: <4trlbg$fp5@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu> <DvIFoC.F0A@cam-ani.co.uk> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 13:25:34 GMT In <DvIFoC.F0A@cam-ani.co.uk> Ian Stephenson wrote: > > can i just get a generic SVGA PC monitor with the > > 1W3RGB connector on back. > No :-( > If nothing else, where would you plug your keyboard? If you're handy > with a soldering iron it MIGHT be possible, but I haven't heard of > anyone who's managed it. The Monitor contains bits of sound hardware, > and keyboard stuff which would need to be extracted. Colour systems use > a standard monitor, and an external sound box. I succeed to connect from NeXTStation to PC Monitor DB-15pin. Yes, black monitor has keyboard/mouse connector, line in and speaker. I use external sound box, and I branch off video signal and H,V sync from 19pin connector. Here is my connection. +---------+ | SVGA | | Monitor | NeXT Station. +---------+ +--------------+ +---------[ UNIT ]-+--------------+ | | |\ SoundBox +-----| \ +---* +-------------> Keyboard & Mouse Even if you don't have soundbox, but you can try to remove a board which connect and process about keyboard, mouse and sound, input safty box, and use it instead of sound box. ( Sorry, I don't try this plan. ) And I tried only my NANAO T560i-J monitor and my friend's MAG-17S Monitor. I don't know which any monitor can use or not, but any multisync monitor, support Vsync 68Hz and Hsync 61kHz, can be use, I think. In Japan, it's very difficult to get black monitor. But many black monitors are becoming dim and dim. So I tested and made this branch UNIT, named DummyPlug, for help such a black NeXT user. Please e-mail me if you want to get UNIT's circuit connection. I sended this drawing to maintainer of NeXT FAQ(in German). They will add it for their FAQ. -- SHIROYAMA-Takayuki : Psi@fortune.nest.or.jp :Taisho Osaka, Japan. fingerprint 36 81 03 C3 CC 65 24 00 96 07 1F 66 12 FC 8E 18
From: tequila@interlog.com (Mark Eissler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT recommendations Date: 4 Aug 1996 14:57:52 GMT Organization: Tequila Films Inc. Message-ID: <tequila-0408961059320001@tequila.interlog.com> For some reason or another I've become interested in NeXT again. This fall I'd like to add another platform to my arsenal. It'll either be a BeBox or something else. Since prices are falling on NeXT equipment, may I'll look for a NeXT. But can someone tell me what NeXT is good for. That is, what kind of development is this platform suited for besides NeXTStep apps? What kind of connection is there between NeXT and Unix? I know the NeXT brochures mentioned you could use a Cube as a server, but under what OS? Also, what is it with the NeXT printer dilemma? Since the system uses Display PostScript, does that limit printing to only NeXT printers, or is there some sort of conversion utility/driver? -- Mark Eissler | I Still have an Acorn Atom tequila@interlog.com | in my closet. One day it http://www.interlog.com/~tequila/ | might be worth something!!
From: vdsn@erols.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: turning on a next station. Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 16:57:38 -0700 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Distribution: inet Message-ID: <320538F2.7D2C@erols.com> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960730122231.905A-100000@cycle1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nick Potkay wrote: > > Folks, > > Forgive my ignorance, but I could not find any information regarding > turning on a nextstation. This machine has been in the closet for who > knows how long and we would like to get rid of it. The keyboard has a > power key on it, but just hitting that key doesnt turn the machine on. > > What is the key sequence to turn on the machine? > > Also - I am pretty sure that the machine has a root passwd, (which I dont > know). How do I go about putting this beast into single user mode? > > Thanks > > -NickThere is only one way (that I have heard of) to turn on a NeXTstation, via the power key, perhaps the keyboard is dead? The hardware password feature can be defeated by removing the lithium battery for a period of 24 hours, but this may also cause the system to lose it's startup default settings. --Single User Mode-- On startup, hold down both command keys, and press the Tilde key (~) on the keypad. Type bsd -s (I'm assuming you start your machine from a SCSI hard disk) from the NeXT> prompt. This will load the system into single-user mode. BTW, to reset the aforementioned system settings, type P at the NeXT prompt, and answer the questions. Post here if I'm forgetting anything.
From: tequila@interlog.com (Mark Eissler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT recommendations Date: 4 Aug 1996 22:38:25 GMT Organization: Tequila Films Inc. Message-ID: <tequila-0408961840070001@tequila.interlog.com> References: <tequila-0408961059320001@tequila.interlog.com> In article <tequila-0408961059320001@tequila.interlog.com>, tequila@interlog.com (Mark Eissler) wrote: > For some reason or another I've become interested in NeXT again. This fall > I'd like to add another platform to my arsenal. It'll either be a BeBox or > something else. Since prices are falling on NeXT equipment, may I'll look > for a NeXT. > > But can someone tell me what NeXT is good for. That is, what kind of > development is this platform suited for besides NeXTStep apps? What kind > of connection is there between NeXT and Unix? I know the NeXT brochures > mentioned you could use a Cube as a server, but under what OS? > > Also, what is it with the NeXT printer dilemma? Since the system uses > Display PostScript, does that limit printing to only NeXT printers, or is > there some sort of conversion utility/driver? > Hmmm, I think I've already answered part of my question in that NeXT boxen use Mach BSD 4.3 (which I suppose is pretty much the same as the MachTen I'm using now...) and I guess NeXTStep runs ontop of that just like any other X-Window interface. -- Mark Eissler | I Still have an Acorn Atom tequila@interlog.com | in my closet. One day it http://www.interlog.com/~tequila/ | might be worth something!!
From: edwintam@webhk.com (Edwin TAM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 and 64Mb RAM ? Date: 5 Aug 1996 03:33:59 GMT Message-ID: <4u3q37$8r8@hkt001.hkt.net> Hi all, I've got a problem with machines that are installed with 64Mb (EDO) RAM to run NS3.3 for Intel. I tried on two PCs, both with 32Mb RAM installed, same config, except one of them is a ASUS Triton board (P55TP4XE) and the other is a ASUS Triton II board (T55T2P4C). Both of them are upgraded to 64Mb (2 more 16Mb SIMMs are added). Both machines boot from the same harddisk, which is a working harddisk/OS from the P55TP4XE before the RAM upgrade, both got stucked at 'Looking at netinfo local.nidb'. When removed the 32Mb out of the 64Mb, both boot process complete smoothly without a single flaw. Tried swapping with other 16Mb SIMMs, even tried using two 32Mb SIMMs, RAMs are pretty sure okay, only that they refuse to get pass the 'local.nidb' part when on 64Mb. Any suggestions ? Many thanks, -- Edwin
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 5 Aug 1996 04:15:11 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4u3sgf$31m@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does Seagate ST51080N drive work with NeXT hardware? Date: 5 Aug 1996 06:15:23 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <4u43hr$757@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <4ttlp4$rtb@panix2.panix.com> chang@panix.com (Ray Chang) wrote: > > >Hi, > >I was reading the NeXT-FAQ and it lists the Seagate ST51080N as one >of the scsi drives that don't work with NeXT hardware. However, >I just bought the same Segate drive (before reading the FAQ,) and >was able to install from scratch from CDROM on a Color station. >Everything seems to be working fine so far. Anybody know why >this drive was listed as incompatible with NeXT hardware, and >will I have problem later? > >Thanks, > >Ray >chang@panix.com > I am also using these drives in several different NeXT machines. Bernhard Scholz maintains one of the FAQ's and he indicated that the information was old. I assume he will be updating the FAQ when time permits. --Ryan
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does Seagate ST51080N drive work with NeXT hardware? Date: 5 Aug 1996 06:49:56 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <slrn50b5v8.flf.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> References: <4ttlp4$rtb@panix2.panix.com> <4u43hr$757@mark.ucdavis.edu> In article <4u43hr$757@mark.ucdavis.edu>, Ryan Scott wrote: >chang@panix.com (Ray Chang) wrote: >>I was reading the NeXT-FAQ and it lists the Seagate ST51080N as one >>of the scsi drives that don't work with NeXT hardware. However, >>I just bought the same Segate drive (before reading the FAQ,) and >>was able to install from scratch from CDROM on a Color station. >>Everything seems to be working fine so far. Anybody know why >>this drive was listed as incompatible with NeXT hardware, and >>will I have problem later? >I am also using these drives in several different NeXT machines. >Bernhard Scholz maintains one of the FAQ's and he indicated that the >information was old. I assume he will be updating the FAQ when time >permits. I have one of these drives in a mono turbo, and it works fine. When I installed the drive, I thought everything had gone smoothly, but when I disconnected the external SCSI (and defunct piece o' ...) color printer, my machine refused to boot! Being a reasonably handy fellow, I took the drive out and checked the various jumpers to be sure that it was set to do all of the things it's supposed to, but it still wouldn't work. So, I bought a SCSI-2 terminator and plugged it in. Voila! It worked again. I've worked with it in that configuration ever since. Other than this bit of what I assume is some kind of silliness on the part of the drive, I've been very happy with the device. Quiet, reasonable fast, and no problems so far. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Paul Brown Grad student, UCB mathematics (510)-843-7817 pbrown@math.berkeley.edu http://math.berkeley.edu/~pbrown/ NeXTmail preferred. _____________________________________________________________________
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT recommendations Date: 5 Aug 1996 06:57:25 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <slrn50b6d9.flf.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> References: <tequila-0408961059320001@tequila.interlog.com> <tequila-0408961840070001@tequila.interlog.com> In article <tequila-0408961840070001@tequila.interlog.com>, Mark Eissler wrote: >Hmmm, I think I've already answered part of my question in that NeXT boxen >use Mach BSD 4.3 (which I suppose is pretty much the same as the MachTen >I'm using now...) and I guess NeXTStep runs ontop of that just like any >other X-Window interface. Except that NeXTstep is not X-windows or anything remotely close. Comparing the two is like comparing a car and a lotta (or whatever those awful Eastern Europen things were...). NeXTstep is an environment where it is painfully easy to construct good, consistent GUI's; the Workspace provides a GUI front-end to many UNIX functions along with many of the standard features of a windowing operating system. Throw in things like cut and paste of arbitrary material (EPS, text, TIFF, etc.) between applications, drop-in expansion of Workspace and other application capabilities, display postscript that makes previewing TeX on my turboslab faster and better than on a Sparc 20 running solaris, and you begin to get the idea. The black NeXTs are (now) slow but very well-designed machines that many of us swear by. I can't imagine myself using anything else, but I'll eventually have to give in. Even then, I'll probably keep my black beauties around to use as terminals. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Paul Brown Grad student, UCB mathematics (510)-843-7817 pbrown@math.berkeley.edu http://math.berkeley.edu/~pbrown/ NeXTmail preferred. _____________________________________________________________________
From: brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Recommendation for NeXT color monitor replacement/fix Date: 31 Jul 1996 17:28:23 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Distribution: world Message-ID: <BRISINDA.96Jul31112823@ip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Hi there, My FIMI color monitor blew out on me and I've got some hardware guys working on it trying to locate/fix the problem -- with little luck. Anyway it looks like I'll be forced into the market for a new 17" display. Can anyone provide recommendations for an affordable, good quality 17" color monitor that works with a Turbo NeXT Color? Thanks, Dale --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca or dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (NeXTmail) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca or dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (NeXTmail) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: Adrian Lim Meng Yan <adrianlm@po.pacific.net.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Laser Printer for IBM PC? Date: 5 Aug 1996 13:10:14 GMT Organization: TAS Message-ID: <4u4rrm$cad@raffles.technet.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been given a NeXT Laser Printer (no model number) by a friend. However, it did not come with an operating manual. I suppose this could be the newsgrp to pose my question. 1) I can't find the power switch. Is there one? 2) Can the DB-9 connector be attached to an IBM compatible PC? 3) If answer to Q2 is possible, then what printer setup do I use in Win3.1 or Win 95? 4) Why can I get this printer driver? Thanks in advance. PS: Please reply to preferably my e-mail acct (adrianlm@tas.gov.sg).
From: smy@leech.mpg.uni-jena.de (Bertram Smolny) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel HW ? Date: 5 Aug 1996 15:34:07 GMT Organization: Friedrich-Schiller-University Jena, Germany Message-ID: <4u549f$fq7@fsuj19.rz.uni-jena.de> Hi, does anyone have expiriences with the new COMPAQ DESKPRO 6000-series ? (performance, compatibility SCSI, Net (AMD ???)) please send mail. thanx. smy
From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PLIP on NeXT? Date: 5 Aug 1996 16:13:02 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4u56ie$8g3@news.next.com> References: <lwivaxludp.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> In article <lwivaxludp.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca (Will Waites) writes: > > I am trying to connect my Laptop running Linux to my NeXT > station using PLIP (Paralell Line IP). It is easy to set this up under > Linux but as I am new to NeXTSTEP I don't know where to begin as far > as setup under NeXT goes or even if it is possible. Considering that Next computers (stations and cubes) didn't have parallel ports, I'd say this is pretty much impossible. Now if you wanted to use SLIP or PPP, you might have better luck. joe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Re: CD-R Message-ID: <DvoI2I.5AL@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology References: <4tr5l9$4qh@odb.rhein-main.de> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 18:59:05 GMT In article <4tr5l9$4qh@odb.rhein-main.de> alex@starside.rhein-main.de (Alexander F.E. Seggerman) writes: >Do I have to enter a fstag or similar for my new Yamaha CDR102 CD-Writer ?? >If I just plug it into the SCSI Bus (yes everything is terminated, unique IDs >etc.) it somehow is jamming the SCSI Bus (error msgs: Resetting SCSI Bus ... >I/O Timeout) > I've got a Yamaha CDR100 (the same unit but 4x write speed) and I'm having no problems at all. I did nothing to configure. Here's what the relevant lines from messages look like: Aug 5 13:27:32 datran1 mach: sd2: YAMAHA CDR100 1.10 Aug 5 13:27:32 datran1 mach: Registering: sd2 at Target 2 LUN 0 at sc0 Aug 5 13:27:32 datran1 mach: Registering: sd2a Aug 5 13:27:32 datran1 mach: sd2: Waiting for drive to come ready.............. Aug 5 13:27:32 datran1 mach: sd2: Disk Not Ready Looks just like a CD-ROM drive to NeXTSTEP. Steve -- Steven M. Boker 804-295-8444 (voice/fax) 804-295-0009 (home) boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ Dept. of Psychology, University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA 22903 After 8/20 Dept. of Psych., U. of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does Seagate ST51080N drive work with NeXT hardware? Date: 5 Aug 1996 18:09:46 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4u5dda$r9@turbocat.turbocat.de> References: <4ttlp4$rtb@panix2.panix.com> <4u43hr$757@mark.ucdavis.edu> <slrn50b5v8.flf.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) wrote: (...) > printer, my machine refused to boot! Being a reasonably handy fellow, I took the drive out and checked the various jumpers to be sure that it was set to do all of the things it's supposed to, but it still wouldn't work. So, I bought a SCSI-2 terminator and plugged it in. Voila! It worked again. I've worked with it in that configuration ever since. Other than this bit of what I assume is some kind of silliness on the part of the drive, I've been very happy with the device. Quiet, reasonable fast, and no problems so far. get a datasheet from http://www.seagate.com/ and play with the jumpers. It took me a whole night to get my seagate st3123n working on black. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
From: ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca (Will Waites) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.answers,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: PLIP on NeXT? Date: 05 Aug 1996 11:32:02 -0400 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Sender: ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca Message-ID: <lwivaxludp.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> Hello, I am trying to connect my Laptop running Linux to my NeXT station using PLIP (Paralell Line IP). It is easy to set this up under Linux but as I am new to NeXTSTEP I don't know where to begin as far as setup under NeXT goes or even if it is possible. Please email with your suggestions, Thanks Will Waites ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Pentium Pro motherboard advice? Message-ID: <Dvorzq.Gy2@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 22:33:25 GMT I'm going to be purchasing a Pentium Pro 200mhz machine in the near future. Does anyone have advice or warnings WRT the Intel Aurora or Venus motherboards? How do they stack up versus the ASUS motherboard. Thanks in advance! Steve -- Steven M. Boker 804-295-8444 (voice/fax) 804-295-0009 (home) boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ Dept. of Psychology, University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA 22903 After 8/20 Dept. of Psych., U. of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556
From: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP SureStore 4mm DAT Drives Date: 4 Aug 1996 19:49:35 GMT Organization: Zildjian Software Distribution: world Message-ID: <4u2usf$sni@lira.i-way.co.uk> Keywords: DAT, 4mm, HP, tape Can anyone tell me if the HP SureStore 5000 4GB DDS (DAT) drive is directly supported under NeXTStep 3.3 for Intel? I am using an Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter. Thanks! ______________________________________________________ Jeff Richmond email: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk Zildjian Software "If you enjoyed this half as much as I did, then I enjoyed this twice as much as you!" - Monty Python ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Suggestion: Pentium Transputer for NeXT Date: 5 Aug 1996 23:02:23 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <4u5uhv$mks@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hi all creative NeXTers without money: This is to start a (short) discussion on boosting black NeXT hardware performance using as little money as possible. Right now you'd need: PC Motherboard, CPU, RAM, EthernetCard. No disks, no screen, no nothing. Something like a Pentium Transputer connected to a NeXT thru the net. Or like additional motherboards in a NeXT cube. The problem is that right now I would in addition need: HardDisk and a HardDisk controller. And most likely monitor, video card and keyboard. That's why I would like to ask how to avoid the harddisk. I offer the following ideas in return. Thanks, Rudy blazek@stt.msu.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Background: ----------- I am a graduate assistant (i.e. a student) so I have to watch the budget. I use 040 NeXTcube w/ NeXTdimension and NeXTstation Color. I like them a lot for all I do, except for speed of what I use heavily on a daily basis: Mathematica and TeX. What I wanna do: ---------------- Connect a Pentium Pro server to my NeXT and run Mathematica and TeX remotely off the server. Design Ideas: ------------- 1. Take a black NeXT workstation. 2. Put some UNIX in a subdirectory on the NeXT. You might have to use some other PC which already runs the UNIX system. 3. Put Pentium Pro, RAM and Ethernet card in an empty computer case. 4. Convince the PC hardware to boot thru the net off the NeXT. 5. Mount the HardDisks from the NeXT and continue booting the UNIX from the step 2 above. 6. Enjoy, work, compute, fly ... - The UNIX could be either Linux (free, with student version of Mathematica available) or NeXT(Open)Step (not free :-)), but preferred, of course :-))). - The point 2. could be also accomplished by borrowing a disk controller, empty disk, video card, monitor, keyboard for step 3 ... Linux: ------ For starters, Linux would be fine with me, since remote Mathematica kernel and TeX are easy to use from NeXT User Interface no matter what UNIX they run on. Also a whole world of free X-win apps would be at hand. When a minimal installation of Linux and boot-images etc is finished (on the NeXT harddisk), all the files could be put on the FTP archives so that other people don't have to go through the whole process ... They could replace the point 2. above (which could be pretty painful) with: 2'. Untar the minimal Linux supplied here, change configuration files here, etc... PROBLEMS: --------- - Point 4. above ("Convince the PC hardware to boot thru the net off the NeXT."). I don't know how to do that. I saw PC's booting off the net, but I am not sure if it was done by changing CMOS/BIOS parameters (and/or jumpers, switches etc.) on the ethernet card and/or motherboard or if they had some files in the boot sector on the local harddisk. - I know that black NeXTs can boot directly off a NetInfo network, but I am not sure what PC hardware can do. - If you really need a harddisk for booting off the net, then the expenses will grow since in addition to the disk and controller you will most likely need also a monitor and keyboard to resolve crashes etc. Why? The main advantage of the disk-less solution is that there is nothing to break in the PC. The only problem could be hardware failure or a dead CMOS battery which is unlikely. All the files would be on the NeXT, so if anything goes wrong, all you have to do is to restore your backup of the PC's directories on the NeXT and reboot the poor (i.e. stripped) Pentium box ... Please: ------- If you read all the way until here, please comment on my suggestions if you have a point. I really would like to make this happen with as little money as possible. And some other people might be interested, too ... Thanks a lot. Rudy Blazek Michigan State University Dept. of Statistics and Probability
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Canon object.station (Was: REVIVE THE OLD NeXT! ) Date: 5 Aug 1996 21:29:42 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <4u5p46$eq5@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <4u0nvh$gl8@news1.i1.net> <4u0u3v$h4@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <4u31am$if5@garuda.synet.net> <4u5ht0$ckq@news.onramp.net> In-Reply-To: <4u5ht0$ckq@news.onramp.net> On 08/05/96, Steve Dekorte wrote: > kris@news.synet.net wrote: > > ... Imagine a PC and all its clunkiness redesigned anew by the hardware > > boyz at NeXT. > > It's called the Canon object.station. > Unfortunately, Canon stopped making them. > Umm, sorry, I have to disagree there: the Canon *promised* to live up to NeXT h/w, but IMHO failed to deliver -- witness the number that seem to be failing now compared to the longevity of the real black stuff. For those waiting to see what I do re Canon (lack of support) -- I'm waiting for word back to see if they've changed their tune (I was told that the day (after?! :-) I posted my message they started to get their act together). However, this seems unlikely, so in a week or so's time I'll send out my letter. Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT recommendations Date: 6 Aug 1996 05:53:43 GMT Organization: frazer.com Message-ID: <jbf-0608960154060001@news.tiac.net> References: <tequila-0408961059320001@tequila.interlog.com> <jbf-0608960054100001@news.tiac.net> In article <jbf-0608960054100001@news.tiac.net>, jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) wrote: Modest length article clipped ... Sorry, meant this as email but Eudora foiled me again. If I got anything wrong, please help the guy. Barney
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT recommendations Date: 6 Aug 1996 04:53:52 GMT Organization: frazer.com Message-ID: <jbf-0608960054100001@news.tiac.net> References: <tequila-0408961059320001@tequila.interlog.com> In article <tequila-0408961059320001@tequila.interlog.com>, tequila@interlog.com (Mark Eissler) wrote: > That is, what kind of development is this platform suited for besides NeXTStep apps? Any old plain vanilla Unix app. Nothing else unless you go to 4.0, in which case you pick up WinXX. The one impartial poster I've seen dumped NS and OS for a standard Win dev environment, because of the cost an OS runtime would impose on his users. His arguments made sense, so I've given up on using NS/OS for any commercial development. Not that I really had any plans ... > What kind of connection is there between NeXT and Unix? Uses a Mach kernel to implement various obsolete versions of Unix BSD 4.3 apps. Perfectly adequate in most cases. > I know the NeXT brochures mentioned you could use a Cube as a server, but under what OS? Server for what? You can certainly use it as a server for a custom NS/OS app, and it can act as a WWW or FTP server. Can provide home LAN routing if that's what you need. > Also, what is it with the NeXT printer dilemma? What dilemma? Print to NeXT printer via cable 1, print to any print server via E/N. I print to a HP 4 MP via a Mac print server. > Since the system uses Display PostScript, does that limit printing to only NeXT printers, or is there some sort of conversion utility/driver? You can print via the printer port to a NeXT printer (pretty cheap now), or via serial port to some Laser printers (must have correct handshakes and accept Postscript, not all Mac printers work), or via lpr to a print server (viz my Mac). Barmey Barney
From: jut@ukrv.de (J.-U. Thieme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP SureStore 4mm DAT Drives Date: 6 Aug 1996 07:12:32 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <4u6r90$hri@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <4u2usf$sni@lira.i-way.co.uk> Cc: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk In <4u2usf$sni@lira.i-way.co.uk> Jeff Richmond wrote: > Can anyone tell me if the HP SureStore 5000 4GB DDS (DAT) > drive is directly supported under NeXTStep 3.3 for Intel? I > am using an Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter. Thanks! > > ______________________________________________________ > Jeff Richmond email: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk > Zildjian Software > "If you enjoyed this half as much as I did, then I enjoyed this > twice as much as you!" - Monty Python > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Why not !! I´m using a HP SureStore Tape 2000 on my Intel based NeXTStep machine, (HP XU 5/90 with AMD-SCSI-Contr.) without problems since 2 month. DAT and DAT-2 are not different for the operatingsystem. CIAO JUT -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.- U. Thieme - -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jut@ukrv.de or jut@rz.charite.hu-berlin.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 66127 - - fax: +49 30 450 66937 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - --------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Nick Carrigan" <nickc@nickc.seanet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 and 64Mb RAM ? Date: 6 Aug 1996 07:51:49 GMT Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <01bb836b$d7b62b40$f84eb6cc@nickc> References: <4u3q37$8r8@hkt001.hkt.net> Try that OS/2 > 64 MB ... setting... if you have the latest bios update... see what that does... Nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT Laser Printer for IBM PC? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dvp4vG.A9D@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 03:11:39 GMT References: <4u4rrm$cad@raffles.technet.sg> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <4u4rrm$cad@raffles.technet.sg>, Adrian Lim Meng Yan <adrianlm@po.pacific.net.sg> wrote: >I have been given a NeXT Laser Printer (no model number) by a friend. However, it did >not come with an operating manual. I suppose this could be the newsgrp to pose my >question. > >1) I can't find the power switch. Is there one? > It's controlled by the black hardware which drives it. >2) Can the DB-9 connector be attached to an IBM compatible PC? > No. It uses a custom "video" interface, again driven by the NeXT machine. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: henq@phsoft.knoware.nl (Henk van Tijen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 2940 UW: "cant get configSpace" err ? Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 14:17:18 +0200 Organization: PH Software Message-ID: <1996080614171891324@[192.0.2.1]> Hi there, I'm trying to assemble an intel NS3.3 system. Bought an Adaptec 2940 Ultra Wide scsi controller. Downloaded latest drivers from NeXT: 3.37. Docs say 3.37 supports Ultra Wide. But I always get a "can't get configSpace" error on initial boot at installation. I've tried Intel Zappa, Asus and other mainboards, always the same result. Also tried all 3.4 quadrillion BIOS settings, to no avail. Is my Adaptec too new ? Should I install older software in its ROMs ? Any hints welcome ! -Henk henq@phsoft.knoware.nl
From: dknox@uga.cc.uga.edu (David K. Knox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: 030 Board Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 09:04:53 -0500 Organization: Disability Services, University of Georgia Message-ID: <dknox-0608960904530001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> Greetings NeXT enthusiasts! Does anyone out there have a spare 030 board which they will sell to me to resuscitate my office Cube? Thank you for your assistance. David Knox
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Laser Printer for IBM PC? Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 09:26:11 -0400 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <320747F3.65E5@worldbank.org> References: <4u4rrm$cad@raffles.technet.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adrian Lim Meng Yan wrote: > I have been given a NeXT Laser Printer (no model number) by a friend. However, it did > not come with an operating manual. I suppose this could be the newsgrp to pose my > question. The fundamental answer to all your questions is: you can only use a NeXT Laser Printer with a NeXT computer. Stefano
From: Mark Strand <marks@soli.inav.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Iomega zip drives? Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 23:20:22 -0500 Organization: Internet Navigator, Inc. Message-ID: <3206C806.50BA@soli.inav.net> References: <4tblbr$8os@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sherwood Botsford wrote: > > Our bookstore has zip drives on sale. Do these work > with Nextstep on black hardware, assuming you use the appropriate cable? > Assuming you're referring to the SCSI model, I run one on my NeXTstation color and it works great. Plug and play. > -- > > Sherwood Botsford |Unsolicited email that advertises commercial > Physics Dept |activities will consitute a request for > U of Alberta |spellchecking of all words of less than three > Edmonton, AB, |characters. I charge $US500 for this service. > T6G 2J1 |There is no warranty of correctness of this service.
From: tequila@interlog.com (Mark Eissler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT recommendations Date: 6 Aug 1996 14:24:50 GMT Organization: Tequila Films Inc. Message-ID: <tequila-0608961026310001@tequila.interlog.com> References: <tequila-0408961059320001@tequila.interlog.com> <jbf-0608960054100001@news.tiac.net> In article <jbf-0608960054100001@news.tiac.net>, jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) wrote: > In article <tequila-0408961059320001@tequila.interlog.com>, > tequila@interlog.com (Mark Eissler) wrote: > > > That is, what kind of development is this platform suited for > besides NeXTStep apps? > > Any old plain vanilla Unix app. Nothing else unless you go to > 4.0, in which case you pick up WinXX. The one impartial poster That sounds good for a beginning, but after I get through with messing around with building my own Unix apps, I'd like to explore the design of shaders and graphics processing utilities. Somewhere on the web I saw a recommendation for NeXT equipment to do this, as an Indy is just a little ;-} out of my range. > > > I know the NeXT brochures mentioned you could use a Cube as a > server, but under what OS? > > Server for what? You can certainly use it as a server for a custom > NS/OS app, and it can act as a WWW or FTP server. Can provide home > LAN routing if that's what you need. > Yup, those are exactly what I was thinking about. > > Also, what is it with the NeXT printer dilemma? > > What dilemma? Print to NeXT printer via cable 1, print to any print > server via E/N. I print to a HP 4 MP via a Mac print server. > Dilemma is the fact that I would think the printer is likely to "go" before the rest of the equipment. Since I already have a perfectly happy TI PostScript printer, I think I'd like to be able to use that via Ethernet (printer is connected to a Mac via LocalTalk). So you've answered my question. But since NeXT printers are going for about $200...whose consumables do they use? Canon? > > Since the system uses Display PostScript, does that limit printing > to only NeXT printers, or is there some sort of conversion utility/driver? > > You can print via the printer port to a NeXT printer (pretty cheap > now), or via serial port to some Laser printers (must have correct > handshakes and accept Postscript, not all Mac printers work), or via > lpr to a print server (viz my Mac). > So the NeXT outputs PostScript to the printer? I thought it sent a bitmapped image as the NeXT processes all the PostScript data. Thanks for the info. -- Mark Eissler | Now that my DNS is working... tequila@interlog.com | What will I do next weekend?? http://www.interlog.com/~tequila/ | --Configure SendMail!
From: rupert@blitzen.noir.net (Hans Rupert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Suggestion: Pentium Transputer for NeXT Date: 6 Aug 1996 17:34:50 GMT Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. The Wisconsin ISP 414-476-4266 http://www.inc.net Message-ID: <4u7vnq$4b0@news.inc.net> References: <4u5uhv$mks@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Cc: blazek@stt.msu.edu In <4u5uhv$mks@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: Hi all creative NeXTers without money: This is to start a (short) discussion on boosting black NeXT hardware performance using as little money as possible. Right now you'd need: PC Motherboard, CPU, RAM, EthernetCard. No disks, no screen, no nothing. Something like a Pentium Transputer connected to a NeXT thru the net. Or like additional motherboards in a NeXT cube. The problem is that right now I would in addition need: HardDisk and a HardDisk controller. And most likely monitor, video card and keyboard. That's why I would like to ask how to avoid the harddisk. I offer the following ideas in return. Thanks, Rudy blazek@stt.msu.edu _________________ Hmmph. I appreciate your creative, thrifty approach. If you just get a second computer though, your life will be much enhanced. Anything faster than your station will do. If you are only planning on running NeXT binaries, you might try simlifying your approach. Here's how we do "distributed computing" here: We use OpenSesame.app to execute the binary on a different host, and display the results on our workstations. Works like a charm. It's pretty simple to set-up, and you can find a complete run-down in DigitalLibrarian. Look under the SysAdmin.bshlf. - SysAdminManual/03_SetUpNet.rtfd [search contents for OpenSesame.app] If you are running compute intensive apps like TeX and Mathmatica, a PentiumPro with 64+Mb of RAM and a FastEthernet card will knock your socks off. The only thing that really doesn't change is the speed at which your NeXTstation can draw a screen... One note: Read-Up on the security issues of the PublicWindowServer before you use this. Hope that gives you a start - It really does work Bests, -- Hans Rupert <rupert@noir.net> / NeXTmail or MIME encouraged Direktor noir http://www.noir.net
From: nickle@Glue.umd.edu (Michael D. Nickle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Connectix Quickcam Idea Date: 6 Aug 1996 14:04:56 GMT Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <4u7je8$al@mojo.eng.umd.edu> I was just thinking about how great it would be if I could get video into my slab. Then I remembered that my quickcam has a din-8 connector just like my slab. Does anyone know what would be involved in creating the software (or if anyone has created software) to get these two to work together? Any comments or questions furthering the idea are apprec. -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Michael D. Nickle || Bob Dole sings, are ya listening? nickle@Glue.umd.edu || Step outside, his head is glistening. www.glue.umd.edu/~nickle || We're happy tonight..walking in a Dole || Wonderland.... -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Organizer <-> NeXT Date: 6 Aug 1996 17:20:03 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <4u7us3$3c3h@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hi, has anybody tried to connect an organizer to a NeXTstation or cube? Is there software available? I know about the nice OCSoftware's app for NeXT <-> PSION palmtops communication, but I am not sure if I want PSION palmtop (I have to check the prices and features [like size, battery life]...) Also I saw some used Newtons from Apple for about $100. Is there some software for connecting these to the NeXT? Or do people use a trick with modem communication? I just would like to know if the PSION is the only option for connecting an organizer/palmtop/pen-computer to a NeXTstation. Thanks a lot. Rudy Blazek blazek@stt.msu.edu
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Canon object.station (Was: REVIVE THE OLD NeXT! ) Date: 6 Aug 1996 17:42:07 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4u805f$40i@news.onramp.net> References: <4u0nvh$gl8@news1.i1.net> <4u0u3v$h4@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <4u31am$if5@garuda.synet.net> <4u5ht0$ckq@news.onramp.net> <4u5p46$eq5@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Cc: m.crawford@shef.ac.uk mmalcolm crawford wrote: > Steve Dekorte wrote: > > kris@news.synet.net wrote: > > > ... Imagine a PC and all its clunkiness redesigned anew by the hardware > > > boyz at NeXT. > > > > It's called the Canon object.station. > > Unfortunately, Canon stopped making them. > > > Umm, sorry, I have to disagree there: the Canon *promised* to live up to NeXT > h/w, but IMHO failed to deliver -- witness the number that seem to be failing > now compared to the longevity of the real black stuff. It's true that the first object.stations (the 486 based 41s) were flakey. (which compares well with the flakey 030 cube OD and early OS.) I've heard the Pentium based object.stations where pretty solid though. The HP gecko is also worth mentioning. Not a good performance/price ratio, but from what I've heard, a very solid, one package machine with a nice case design. I think you could even get them in grey(?) -- Steve Dekorte - OpenStep Developer - Anaheim, CA "Fundamentalism isn't about religion. It's about power." - S. Rushdie
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT recommendations Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 14:45:47 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <om1t=Pq00iWTI7YkUv@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <tequila-0408961059320001@tequila.interlog.com> <jbf-0608960054100001@news.tiac.net> In-Reply-To: <jbf-0608960054100001@news.tiac.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 6-Aug-96 Re: NeXT recommendations by James B. Frazer@frazer.c >> What kind of connection is there between NeXT and Unix? > > Uses a Mach kernel to implement various obsolete versions of Unix > BSD 4.3 apps. Perfectly adequate in most cases. Most of the stuff NeXT ships with NEXTSTEP is only "outdated", not "obsolete"; pretty much the only truly obsolete stuff is NFS and maybe sendmail. And you can build the newest versions of sendmail, web servers, BIND, and so forth with no problems in most cases. The only significant problem is that you can't use BSD 4.4(Lite) specific software. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: question on cube modem Date: 6 Aug 1996 21:02:46 GMT Organization: CU-HSS Program in Biomechanical Engineering Sender: ps17@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <4u8btm$fli@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> I have a 040 cube, and I have a modem, a cable, the wiring diagram, and a soldering iron. Hardware-wise, I believe that I am all set. My problem is that my NeXT is at home, and my net connection is at work, and so getting packages like SLIP, PPP, etc onto the machine is trouble. Can anyone outline a stratagy for taking a cube with NS 2.1 on it and making the first connection across a SLIP connection? Can I get any file transfer across a SLIP connection in order to download the SLIP package? Also, in the man pages for zs, cu, tip, etc, these packages don't seem to specify which device has the modem on it. Am I missing editing an /etc script to tell the machine where the modem is? My 2nd question is, I have a PC with ethernet next to the NeXT. Is there an ftp server for dos so that I can back-up my dos stuff onto the NeXT? Once I back-up dos onto the NeXT, I'll install Solaris, and have a nice little lan, complete with dial-up connection to get SLIP, etc, from my office. Any pointers to FAQ's, or other help pages would be apreciated. Once again, any helpful advice will be added to my NeXT hardware stuff which I keep at http://biomech.mae.cornell.edu/~schmidt/next/
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 and 64Mb RAM ? Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 23:29:48 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <4u8kk9$p29@news1.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <4u3q37$8r8@hkt001.hkt.net> edwintam@webhk.com (Edwin TAM) wrote: >I've got a problem with machines that are installed with 64Mb (EDO) RAM to >run NS3.3 for Intel. >I tried on two PCs, both with 32Mb RAM installed, same config, except one of >them is a ASUS Triton board (P55TP4XE) and the other is a ASUS Triton II >board (T55T2P4C). Both of them are upgraded to 64Mb (2 more 16Mb SIMMs are >added). Both machines boot from the same harddisk, which is a working >harddisk/OS from the P55TP4XE before the RAM upgrade, both got stucked at >'Looking at netinfo local.nidb'. >When removed the 32Mb out of the 64Mb, both boot process complete smoothly >without a single flaw. This sounds like a case of a hardware and memory address overlap. I'd bet that your video card memory window base address is somewhere between 32 and 64 Mb. For most video boards, you can use Configure.app to move the memory window address above 64 Mb. (You'll have to boot with only 32 Mb to do this, of course.) A few board types may require you to run a DOS based configuration program to change the memory window address. (I had an ATI Mach 32 based board, not built by ATI, that required this.) Until fairly recently, many PC boards didn't support addresses past 64 Mb. Memory windows on video cards were often configured to lie just below 64 Mb to avoid problems on these motherboards. Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: 71171.1203@COMPUSERVE.COM (Daryl Thachuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Canon object.station (Was: REVIVE THE OLD NeXT! ) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 16:55:28 -0700 Organization: Montage Technologies Inc. Message-ID: <71171.1203-0608961655280001@slip129-37-178-106.bc.ca.ibm.net> References: <4u0nvh$gl8@news1.i1.net> <4u0u3v$h4@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <4u31am$if5@garuda.synet.net> <4u5ht0$ckq@news.onramp.net> <4u5p46$eq5@bignews.shef.ac.uk> In article <4u5p46$eq5@bignews.shef.ac.uk>, mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: > On 08/05/96, Steve Dekorte wrote: > > kris@news.synet.net wrote: > > > ... Imagine a PC and all its clunkiness redesigned anew by the hardware > > > boyz at NeXT. > > > > It's called the Canon object.station. > > Unfortunately, Canon stopped making them. > > > Umm, sorry, I have to disagree there: the Canon *promised* to live up to NeXT > h/w, but IMHO failed to deliver -- witness the number that seem to be failing > now compared to the longevity of the real black stuff. > > For those waiting to see what I do re Canon (lack of support) -- I'm waiting > for word back to see if they've changed their tune (I was told that the day > (after?! :-) I posted my message they started to get their act together). > However, this seems unlikely, so in a week or so's time I'll send out my > letter. > > Best wishes, > > mmalc. > > -- I think Canon has started to get their act together. Here is a GOOD story about Canon's service. A while back I posted that our Objectstation 41 had died and we needed to get service. I called Canon CCSI support and they were most helpful in getting our box back in action. Their first option is to send a tech out to your site to fix the unit (at $105/hr, yikes!!!) Since we couldn't afford these rates the other option was to do the repair ourselves. Canon provided me the part numbers of the parts we needed (the riser card) and the phone number of the Canon CCSI parts department. I ordered the new card, it arrived next day Fedex and we were up and running with minimal pain. -daryl ---- Daryl Thachuk Montage Technologies Inc daryl@ibm.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199608062249.SAA08582@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 96 18:49:52 -0400 Subject: Re: NeXT Laser Printer for IBM PC? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Adrian Lim Meng Yan on 5 Aug 1996 wrote: > I have been given a NeXT Laser Printer (no model number) by a > friend. However, it did not come with an operating manual. I > suppose this could be the newsgrp to pose my question. > > 1) I can't find the power switch. Is there one? No, it turns on automatically during the boot of a NeXTStation > 2) Can the DB-9 connector be attached to an IBM compatible PC? > > 3) If answer to Q2 is possible, then what printer setup do I use in > Win3.1 or Win 95? > > 4) Why can I get this printer driver? There is no real chance there will any way to get that printer to work with any other printer. The printer is just a dumb engine, the NeXTStation did all the rendering. > PS: Please reply to preferably my e-mail acct > (adrianlm@tas.gov.sg). Why not set a 'reply-to' line? TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next NeXT Printer Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html
From: thedrjay@aol.com (The Dr Jay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dear NeXT: DPT PM2144UW driver Date: 6 Aug 1996 22:19:44 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4u8ug0$sog@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <slrn4uav6e.qs2.ifeulner@xenon.stgt.sub.org> The main biggest deference is the CPU on the card. The 2044 I think has a 68000 and the 2144 has a 68020. DPT recommends to use the 2144 in systems that have more than 2 hard drives because under heavy multitasking the more powerful CPU will perform better. I have found that even with just one hard drive the controller with the more powerful CPU had less overhead and on faster drives a better transfer rate. Note that DPT describes the 2044 as a high performance low cost controller. If performance is your priority get the 2144 or to save money get the 2044.
From: thedrjay@aol.com (The Dr Jay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problem: Install of scsi disk in slab Date: 6 Aug 1996 22:19:05 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4u8uep$snu@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4qvdau$r2j@mark.ucdavis.edu> If you don't have an external drive try putting on a external terminator. I have seen a posting where a person who had this drive working with an external drive and removed it and terminated the drive couldn't boot up. They put on an external terminator and where then able to boot. This might not make sense, but in my experience a lot of things with hardware don't.
From: jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: BeBox (Was: Images of NeXT sales brochures) Date: 6 Aug 96 23:02:42 Organization: C.R.A.S.H. The Computers, Robotics, and Artists Society of Houston Message-ID: <JASON.96Aug6230242@fisher.psych.uh.edu> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <4tt07c$mfh@turing.mathworks.com> <4tto16$9rv@news.onramp.net> In-reply-to: dekorte@suite.com's message of 2 Aug 1996 20:21:58 GMT Hi! Well, my BeBox is going to sit right next to my NeXT machines. :-) A question: Can I use a NeXT Hitachi monitor (68Hz) or a Sony monitor with the Be, given that I can adjust the monitor settings like a wild man? -- Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7 Reactive Systems Houston, Texas 77006 jason@reactive.com (713) 942-7937 voice
From: neal@s2.sonnet.com (Joshua B. Neal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Connectix Quickcam Idea Date: 7 Aug 1996 06:29:01 GMT Organization: SONNET Networking - Central Valley & Foothills (800)50-ONLINE Message-ID: <4u9d3d$p4a@sonnet1.sonnet.com> References: <4u7je8$al@mojo.eng.umd.edu> Cc: nickle@Glue.umd.edu In <4u7je8$al@mojo.eng.umd.edu> Michael D. Nickle wrote: > I was just thinking about how great it would be if I could get video into > my slab. Then I remembered that my quickcam has a din-8 connector just > like my slab. Does anyone know what would be involved in creating the > software (or if anyone has created software) to get these two to work > together? Any comments or questions furthering the idea are apprec. > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Michael D. Nickle || Bob Dole sings, are ya listening? > nickle@Glue.umd.edu || Step outside, his head is glistening. > www.glue.umd.edu/~nickle || We're happy tonight..walking in a Dole > || Wonderland.... > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out http://www.crynwr.com/qcpc/ Some Linux/FreeBSD types have managed to write drivers for the PC version of the QuickCam. -- Josh Neal neal@s2.sonnet.com (NeXTmail, MIME capable) "I can no longer sit back and allow Windows infiltration and indoctrination, Usenet subversion, and the international Microsoft conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids..." (with apologies to Stanley Kubrik)
From: darkon@netins.net (Tehrasha Darkon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Multiple Motherboards in Cubes? Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 03:58:50 -0500 Organization: Darkon Industries Message-ID: <darkon-0708960358500001@news.netins.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have heard that the possibility of running multiple motherboards in NeXT cubes may exist. Any truth to this rumor? If so...any info? -------------------------------------------------------------------- darkon@netins.net | FurryMUCK AnimalNation | Tehrasha Darkon --------------------| Furtoonia PlushMUCK |--------------------- WWW and FTP online | RealmsMUCK TigerMUCK | #furry #macintosh 840av MotPower 28 | BrazilianDreams SPR | YiffNet Ambassador -------------------------------------------------------------------- Resident INS Furry and Relaxed Dragon of #furry
From: "Hasssan N. Kelley" <hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Monsterscope Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 05:24:20 -0400 Organization: SSNet -- Public Internet Access in Delaware! Message-ID: <320860C4.41C1@blackstar.ssnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have Monsterscope. It is a scope/spectrum analyzer piece of software that was with NEXTSTEP 3.2 but not 3.3. If so I sure would like to get it from you. Hassan
From: jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP DeskJet 870Cxi Date: 7 Aug 1996 09:14:45 GMT Organization: Colombus Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <4u9mq5$r30@news.petrel.ch> Hi, Are there any drivers for this printer under NS 3.3 ? Does anyone have any experience at all with that printer ? I read in an add that it is connectable to a network. Is that so ? Is it then recognised by NS as a network printer ? Please help Thanks -- Jacques GARBI Colombus Inc. Av. de France 33 1004 Lausanne Switzerland Phone : 011 41 21 661 16 76 Fax : 011 41 21 661 16 73 NeXTMail or MIME : jacques.garbi@colombus.ch
From: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L.van Emmerik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need replacement mouse for black NEXT! Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 13:45:28 GMT Organization: NLnet Message-ID: <4ua6hk$450@news.NL.net> Some time ago a have seen an offering of an adapter that makes it possible to use a standard PC-mous on a black NEXT. Does anyone know where i can get such a convertor, or does anyone have a schematic of how to make such a converter? Pleace Email to: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net. P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands --
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 4.0 and full duplex sound Date: 7 Aug 1996 21:01:40 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <4ub07k$187@news3.digex.net> Hi all, Does 4.0 have ANY drivers available for ANY sound card allowing for full duplex sound; ie simultaneous recording and playback of sound? Of course I'm talking about intel based hardware (or even perhaps SUN). Not NeXT hardware, which as far as I know is still the only NEXTSTEP/OPNESTEP hardware/software mix that can do full duplex sound. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca (Will Waites) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: My NeXT station won't boot :( Date: 07 Aug 1996 15:46:29 -0400 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Sender: ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca Message-ID: <lwk9vbnfje.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> Hello, I have a rather irritating problem. I have just bought an old 68040 black nextstation and it won't boot. It gets through most of its kernel startup and then when it looks for the /etc/init files it can't find them and it panics. What could be the problem, and perhaps more im[portantly how can I fix it? Is it possible to boot the NeXT using a boot-root pair of floppies in order to examing the hard drive and fix the problem if its fixable? Thanks in advance for your help, Will Waites ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca
From: punch@cps.msu.edu (Dr William Punch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Partitioning second SCSI disk (Seagate). Problems Date: 7 Aug 1996 19:29:43 GMT Organization: MSU GARAGe Sender: punch@ariel.cps.msu.edu (Dr William Punch) Message-ID: <4uaqr7$13pa@msunews.cl.msu.edu> I had posted this information before. I have a P5-90 with a 1540CF card. I have a 1Gb IBM drive, split into 750Mb NeXT and 250Mb Win3.1 partitions. I added a 500Mb Seagate to this configuration in hopes of partitioning the Seagate into two parts: 100Mb for NeXT swap and 400Mb for Win95. Well, I can use fdisk on the DOS side to partition it into two pieces, but the NeXT doesn't see it. I can reformat it and the NeXT sees it, but will only setup the whole thing as NeXT. If I format it under NeXT, then try to use the 3.3 fdisk on NeXT, I get an error saying something like: "Bogus disk information, make sure your have enabled BIOS on your SCSI card" Well bios is enabled but I cannot get fdisk to work. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I've tried every combination I can think of. -- Bill Punch punch@cps.msu.edu
From: jsowers@lehman.com (Justin Sowers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Performance tuning on 030 running NS3.3 Date: 07 Aug 1996 16:45:40 -0400 Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc. Sender: jsowers@cfdev1425.cfdev.lehman.com Message-ID: <v6hu3ueditn.fsf@cfdev1425.cfdev.lehman.com> Flame me if you must, but I'm running 3.3 on an 030 cube 16/540+120. The 540 is a fairly fast drive and hosts the main filesystem and a 32MB nocompress swapfile. I reformatted both the 540 and 120 with 1024 blocks. In addition to not running Preferences.app, turning off swapfile compression, using my fastest disk for the swapfile, and the low level format change to improve the efficiency of the disk I/O is there anything else I can do to eek out a little more performance from this cube, short of an 040 upgrade? I am going to install more memory in the machine as I seem to remember a 20MB "hump" for improved performance on a mono machine. This seems to be a fact(fict?)oid trapped in the cobwebs of my mind, so more information on this would be helpful, as well. Also, does anyone know if there are inherent differences in the I/O of a NeXT 030 and an 040? I seem to remember my regular 040 mono slab at my last job being a little more speedy despite my disk being faster than the one in that machine. Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Justin. --- I really miss my slab. :( --- (jsowers@lehman.com)
From: gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de (Gerald Wildgruber) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 and 64Mb RAM ? Date: 07 Aug 1996 16:44:21 +0200 Organization: Apatheia Corp. Sender: gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de Distribution: world Message-ID: <x7686vuud6.fsf@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <4u3q37$8r8@hkt001.hkt.net> In-reply-to: edwintam@webhk.com's message of 5 Aug 1996 03:33:59 GMT In article <4u3q37$8r8@hkt001.hkt.net> edwintam@webhk.com (Edwin TAM) writes: I tried on two PCs, both with 32Mb RAM installed, same config, except one of them is a ASUS Triton board (P55TP4XE) and the other is a ASUS Triton II board (T55T2P4C). Both of them are upgraded to 64Mb (2 more 16Mb SIMMs are added). Both machines boot from the same harddisk, which is a working harddisk/OS from the P55TP4XE before the RAM upgrade, both got stucked at 'Looking at netinfo local.nidb'. The following isn't probably your problem, but just in case ... Upgrading to 64 MB implied in my case a changement of the memory adress reserved for the graphics adapter; otherwise the computer didn't boot; this can be done in Configure.app; the new adress that is necessary for using 64MB was supplied by the graphics adapter vendor. Gerald -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gerald Wildgruber No one can have an idea gewil@ue801be.ppp. once he starts really lrz-muenchen.de listening. - John Cage (NeXTMail and MIME welcome)
From: "Nick Carrigan" <nickc@nickc.seanet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Internal Zip for Intel NeXT Date: 7 Aug 1996 22:14:03 GMT Organization: Computer Stop Message-ID: <01bb84ad$cbdbaa00$f84eb6cc@techgod> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm running NS 3.3 for Intel.. Has anyone had any luck in getting NS to recognize the AVA-1502 card that the SCSI internal ZIP comes with? When I do, at boot up, it locks my system up... and I can't boot with the card in the slot. I'm using the 1542 driver right... Nick
From: rakesh@arp.com (Rakesh Dubey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 4.0 and full duplex sound Date: 07 Aug 1996 16:42:29 -0700 Organization: GRANITE Systems, Inc. Sender: rakesh@fountainhead.granite.com Message-ID: <wu3f1yoj6i.fsf@fountainhead.granite.com> References: <4ub07k$187@news3.digex.net> In-reply-to: John Kheit's message of 7 Aug 1996 21:01:40 GMT In article <4ub07k$187@news3.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: > Hi all, > > Does 4.0 have ANY drivers available for ANY sound card allowing for full > duplex sound; ie simultaneous recording and playback of sound? Of course > I'm talking about intel based hardware (or even perhaps SUN). Not NeXT > hardware, which as far as I know is still the only NEXTSTEP/OPNESTEP > hardware/software mix that can do full duplex sound. > I think it is possible to write a driver that does this. You probably have to know (or guess) something about the behavior of IOAudio but I am not sure. Also there are limitations like the data types/sampling rates have to be the same for play and record etc. At one time this "full duplex" wasn't supported by most audio hardware. -Rakesh
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From: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de (Ingo Feulner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD-DA on NEC 4x? Date: 7 Aug 1996 23:36:19 GMT Organization: Home, sweet home in Boeblingen, Germany Message-ID: <slrn50ia3j.3u1.ifeulner@xenon.stgt.sub.org> Hello, did anyone CD-DA on a NEC Multispin 4x CD-ROM (SCSI). I've got "something", but there are many jitter noises in the samples. Thanks for any answer, Ingo. -- Smail: Ingo Feulner, Wolfacher Weg 19, 71034 Boeblingen, Germany Email: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de "You do not understand." - Kosh, Babylon 5, various episodes.
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Putting 3.3 on half of a 2gig (seen NeXTAnswers but...) Date: 6 Aug 1996 04:10:46 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <4u6gk6$a1e@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Keywords: partition, 3.3, install Hello, I am trying to run NS 3.3 on an HP surestore 2047MB scsi drive. I have partitioned the disk into 1024MB and 1023MB partitions. I followed the instruction in NeXTAnswers about big disks. Actually I could never get disk(8) to partition the thing into two 1gig drives from the 3.3 cdrom booted single user on an Intel P6 200. However I was able to use disk(8) on my Cube running 3.3 patched to get the disk partitioned in half. But to my suprise the 3.3 intel install killed my other partition and I now have 1 gig of unusable space. If I try to mount sd1b it says there is nothing there. Can anybody please tell me how to install NS 3.3 on a 2gig disk. I have checked NeXTAnswers and I found the partitioning info and multiple os info, but nothing about actually installing once it is partitioned. Before, I was able to use the 3.3 installer on a 2gig Seagate on my slab after using disk(8) to partition and it worked great. I also am trying to run LynxOS ( a real time Unix) on another 2gig drive (sd0a) on my P6 200. I also want to be able to boot NS without a floppy. Does anybody have info on how to have NS coexist with the LynxOS booter. Lynx manuals indicate the ability to live next to DOS partitions so I figure a small NS partion should be doable on sd0. I have tried to tell the LynxOS mkpart utility that I want a 10meg partition with the NeXT code A7, but NS does not see the partion on sd0b or the LynxOS partion on sd0a. LynxOS requires the the Adaptec 2940 switch for DOS drives bigger than 1gig to be turned off. Is this causing a problem with disk(8). Any info is greatly appreciated. -- AB _______________________________________________________________ Alan A. Barhorst | alan@osci.me.ttu.edu Mechanical Engineering | http://www.osci.ttu.edu/ Texas Tech University | NeXT, MIME, Sun, & ASCII mail When leaders disregard the law and human dignity, kooks are emboldened; innocence lost. Human potential cannot be developed or measured from a floating moral reference frame. ______________________________________________________________
From: Tito <talugtu@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: NeXT Color Printer Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 20:42:50 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <3209623A.6E92@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need help on how to use NeXT Color Printer on a NeXT Stion w/ NS 3.0. After I hooking-up the Color printer on SCSI port, what's next on my NeXT... Do i need a driver for the printer? How do i print to it? My system is a NeXT Station 040 w/ NS 3.0 and a NeXT laser. thanx a million tito talugtu@slip.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Multiple Motherboards in Cubes? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dvs976.3GD@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:37:54 GMT References: <darkon-0708960358500001@news.netins.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <darkon-0708960358500001@news.netins.net>, Tehrasha Darkon <darkon@netins.net> wrote: >I have heard that the possibility of running >multiple motherboards in NeXT cubes may exist. > >Any truth to this rumor? Yep, you can do it. The cube basically acts as a case for the boards; they appear as separate machines, which you can telnet between and so on. There's a file on peanuts called DualCPUsInCubes or something like that that describes what to do. Briefly, boards will only boot while in slot 0 (preparation for SMP, perhaps?) so you must hack the slot into which you want to place the new board to also have an ID of 0. Surprisingly, this works fine, although I could imagine having other NeXTbus cards in the machine causing problems. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199608080638.CAA00547@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 96 02:38:51 -0400 Subject: Does this mean I can fit more RAM in my machine? Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Strange. I thought that I had the max memory for my circa 1991 non-turbo mono slab: Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes. But I was in the ROM Monitor (2.2 v 63) and did the 'print memory configuration' It claimed that Memory slots 8-11 and 12-15 had no SIMMS installed. To me that meant that I could install more RAM. Is that true? TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next NeXT Printer Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199608080543.BAA02929@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 96 01:43:22 -0400 Subject: compressed air -- oops, what was that? Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Ok, so I've been having this problem with lines across my monitor, and someone suggested that it might be due to dust on the video stuff inside the slab. They suggested I might try blowing out the dust, maybe even some compressed air. I tried the lung-version a couple times, and that seemed to work, but of course I thought it would be BETTER if I used compressed air. Bought some, tested it into the trash can to make sure it worked ok, and pointed it at the inside of the slab, and this HUGE (well, it looked huge, probably wasn't) blast of white stuff blasts its way all over everything. My heart stopped completely for 14 seconds. The "liquid?" vanished on contact (and of course everything was turned off at the time. I thought the can might need to purge, so I aimed it at the trash can.... worked fine. Pointed it at the slab, white stuff. Well at that point I figured that my heart couldn't take much more of that (I can see the post to csn.marketplace "I'm looking to replace the slab that I just froze to death while trying to remove dust"). But now I'm looking for someone to tell me that this is OK and isn't a problem (everything seems to be working OK) or someone to tell me that what I really should be using is a very small vacuum. Any advice/consolation/reassurance appreciated. Thanks TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next NeXT Printer Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199608080636.CAA00414@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 96 02:36:03 -0400 Subject: SCSI chaining Cc: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com slab (sd1a) ------ | | SCSI EZ-135 (terminated) (sd2a) --- SCSI HD (sd0a) Right now I have an internal SCSI CD-ROM which will be external as soon as the external case comes in (a day or two). It just seemed very hot inside the case where the 1gig external HD is, and worth the $50 to get an external case. Now the CD will not be powered on all the time, because I use it very rarely (another reason for the external case). Where should it be located? The easiest thing for all concerned (ie me) would be to remove the terminator from the 2nd EZ drive SCSI port and connect the CD there (as sd3a). My GUESS is that I can have the CD attached there even without the power on without causing a SCSI bus/terminator error. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next NeXT Printer Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html
From: Evstathios Marinos Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 4.0: Why is the graphic performance so slow ??? Date: 7 Aug 1996 19:05:48 GMT Organization: MARCON - Evstathios Marinos Consulting, Karlsruhe/Germany Message-ID: <4uapec$pbn@marcon.marcon.de> Hi, does anybody know why the graphic performance of OPENSTEP 4.0 Mach is significant slower than under 3.3. Under NS 3.3 I get a NXBench of about 5.8, under OS 4.0 NXBench is 4.7. The configuration is exactly the same.
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does this mean I can fit more RAM in my machine? Date: 8 Aug 1996 10:16:02 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <4ucep2$a61@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <199608080638.CAA00547@nerc.com> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> wrote: > Strange. I thought that I had the max memory for my circa 1991 > non-turbo mono slab: Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes. > > But I was in the ROM Monitor (2.2 v 63) and did the 'print memory > configuration' > > It claimed that Memory slots 8-11 and 12-15 had no SIMMS installed. > > To me that meant that I could install more RAM. Is that true? If you open the slab, you'll see that there are only eight SIMM slots. The cubes have 16, and I suspect that the ROM monitor just doesn't know any better, and sees the other eight slots as empty, when in fact they don't exist. By the way, does anyone know whether 30-pin SIMMs are going to become available in 16 MB chunks, and if so whether our non-turbo black hardware can use them? It would be sorta fun to put 128 MB into an old cube.... `Live each day as if it is to be +------------------------------------+ your last, and one day you're bloody | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 | sure to be right.' . | jburton@nwu.edu | -- Harry H.`Breaker' Morant, 1901 +------------------------------------+
From: rupert@blitzen.noir.net (Hans Rupert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: compressed air -- oops, what was that? Date: 8 Aug 1996 11:03:39 GMT Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. The Wisconsin ISP 414-476-4266 http://www.inc.net Message-ID: <4uchib$1a9@news.inc.net> References: <199608080543.BAA02929@nerc.com> Cc: luomat@nerc.com In <199608080543.BAA02929@nerc.com> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: >My heart stopped completely for 14 seconds. >The "liquid?" vanished on contact (and of course everything was >turned off at the time. I thought the can might need to purge, so I >aimed it at the trash can.... worked fine. Pointed it at the slab, >white stuff. My heart stopped reading this post! I think that you will find that if your computer was still a bit hot, and had been producing some static charge all day, that what you saw was condensation. If you use the trash can as a test again, and turn that "compressed air" unit upside down - try spraying your finger briefly. It should get cold - quick! The can will probably also begin to sweat. This is a wasteful proceedure, but ought to aleviate your fears. You also probably shouldn't stick your finger in your mouth at this point - that stuff can be caustic. Don't feel bad - at least your NeXT still works. As a photographer, I have used this canned air stuff for years. They used to manufacture it with freon. I gave a workshop once in which a doctor's wife decided the only way to reach all the dust on a $5,000 lens was to invert the can. The front element of the lens quickly frosted up which horrified her - but not half as much as when it warmed back up, and cracked the glass! Now THAT was a bad day. If on the other hand the magnesium in the case is reacting with the propellant, you might want to refrain from smoking near your NeXT... :)). I hope that I am guessing right, but I might also recommend the vacuum, since you are only blowing the dust all over with the first routine. Best Luck, -- Hans Rupert <rupert@noir.net> / NeXTmail or MIME encouraged Direktor noir
From: nickle@Glue.umd.edu (Michael D. Nickle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: compressed air -- oops, what was that? Date: 8 Aug 1996 12:19:13 GMT Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <4ucm01$qhp@mojo.eng.umd.edu> References: <199608080543.BAA02929@nerc.com> Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@nerc.com) wrote: <snip> : Bought some, tested it into the trash can to make sure it worked : ok, and pointed it at the inside of the slab, and this HUGE (well, : it looked huge, probably wasn't) blast of white stuff blasts its way : all over everything. My heart stopped completely for 14 seconds. : The "liquid?" vanished on contact (and of course everything was Lemme take a guess here. When you pointed it at the trash can, you held the can at an angle closer to vertical. What happened is this. The can of compressed air is filled with freon (or HCFC equivalent). At the top the can this a gas. As you get lower into the can, the state changes to liquid. If the liquid is allowed to decompress *very* rapidly, you get a fog of white that is colder than the flagpole I stuck my tongue to when I was six. If you machine wasn't hot like mine always is, the temperature shift wouldn't be that great and theoretically no damage. If it was hot, then I'd be a little nervous. Good luck and let me know what happens, Michael-- _____________________________________________________________________________ Michael D. Nickle || Bob Dole sings, are ya listening? nickle@Glue.umd.edu || Step outside, his head is glistening. www.glue.umd.edu/~nickle || We're happy tonight..walking in a Dole || Wonderland.... -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: nickle@Glue.umd.edu (Michael D. Nickle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: My NeXT station won't boot :( Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 8 Aug 1996 12:08:17 GMT Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <4uclbh$qhp@mojo.eng.umd.edu> References: <lwk9vbnfje.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> Did you try booting in standalone mode (-s option)? Will Waites (ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca) wrote: : kernel startup and then when it looks for the /etc/init files it can't : find them and it panics. What could be the problem, and perhaps more : im[portantly how can I fix it? Is it possible to boot the NeXT using a -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Michael D. Nickle || Bob Dole sings, are ya listening? nickle@Glue.umd.edu || Step outside, his head is glistening. www.glue.umd.edu/~nickle || We're happy tonight..walking in a Dole || Wonderland.... -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: grehm@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (Georg Rehm) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.answers,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PLIP on NeXT? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.answers,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Date: 8 Aug 1996 08:21:29 GMT Organization: Universitaet Osnabrueck Message-ID: <4uc829$ne8@deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de> References: <lwivaxludp.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> Will Waites (ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca) wrote: > I am trying to connect my Laptop running Linux to my NeXT > station using PLIP (Paralell Line IP). It is easy to set this up under > Linux but as I am new to NeXTSTEP I don't know where to begin as far > as setup under NeXT goes or even if it is possible. IMHO this is not possible. I connected my linux-notebook to my slab via a serial cable using dip on the linux side and the slip package on the black side. With an 38400-setting I get about 3.2k/sec which should be enough for ftp and/or telnet sessions or reading news on the balcony with your notebook on your knees ;-) Oh, you said "NeXT station"? My station does not have a parallel port by the way ;-) CU, Gg -- Georg Rehm - Wuestenstrasse 33 - 49080 Osnabrueck - Tel: +49 541 9827762 RFC 822: georg@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de georg@ge.org (NeXTMail / MIME ok)
From: dknox@uga.cc.uga.edu (David K. Knox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.nextadvocacy Subject: Repost: Images of NeXT Brochures Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 10:43:56 -0500 Organization: Disability Services, University of Georgia Message-ID: <dknox-0808961043560001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> Greetings NeXT enthusiasts! I have scanned two 1991 NeXT sales brochures and put the images on a site for your edification and enjoyment. They have lots of good pictures and technical specifications. The images are large (around 500K each) in the interests of clarity. I hope you enjoy them. http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT.html
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: compressed air -- oops, what was that? Date: 8 Aug 1996 16:02:31 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <4ud32n$prh@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <199608080543.BAA02929@nerc.com> <4ucm01$qhp@mojo.eng.umd.edu> nickle@Glue.umd.edu (Michael D. Nickle) wrote: >Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@nerc.com) wrote: ><snip> > >: Bought some, tested it into the trash can to make sure it worked >: ok, and pointed it at the inside of the slab, and this HUGE (well, >: it looked huge, probably wasn't) blast of white stuff blasts its way >: all over everything. My heart stopped completely for 14 seconds. >: The "liquid?" vanished on contact (and of course everything was > >Lemme take a guess here. When you pointed it at the trash can, you held >the can at an angle closer to vertical. What happened is this. The can <snip> Just one note on this topic. Be *careful* when using a vacuum! They can generate a fair amount of static electricity. A collegue of mine zapped his NeXTstation motherboard while vacuuming the dust out. I also use a vacuum, but I am very careful not to touch anything but the *grounded* case with the tip. My two cents. --Ryan
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sun monitor on NeXT Turbo? Date: 8 Aug 1996 16:11:36 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <4ud3jo$nch@inet-prime.comshare.com> Is there a way to use a spare color monitor from a Sparcstation 20 on a NeXT Turbo ADB? Thanks, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: james@coquitlam.instep.bc.ca (James Ford) Subject: RAID for IDE on NS Message-ID: <1996Aug8.161840.7831@instep.bc.ca> Sender: usenet@instep.bc.ca Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:18:40 GMT I have a requirement for using RAID with NS. I had a quick look at Next's web site and noticed that SCSI RAID is supported. My question is if anyone knows if NeXT is going to or already has the ability to support RAID for IDE. Thanks. -- James Ford <james@instep.bc.ca> <604-872-7116> System Support, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Performance tuning on 030 running NS3.3 Date: 8 Aug 1996 18:29:42 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4udbmm$sin@news.next.com> References: <v6hu3ueditn.fsf@cfdev1425.cfdev.lehman.com> In article <v6hu3ueditn.fsf@cfdev1425.cfdev.lehman.com> jsowers@lehman.com (Justin Sowers) writes: > I am going to install more memory in the machine as I seem to remember a > 20MB "hump" for improved performance on a mono machine. This seems to be a > fact(fict?)oid trapped in the cobwebs of my mind, so more information on > this would be helpful, as well. Going to between 20 and 24 Mb will, in general, help out performance on a 3.3 user system. For the 3.3 developer system, 32 Mb is a good base configuration. You can use the vm_stat commant to get an idea of how much paging your system is doing. As a really rough guide, you'd want the 'Pages reactivated' count to be 75 to 100 times the 'Pageouts' count. Below this ratio, more memory will make a readily noticable improvement. > Also, does anyone know if there are inherent differences in the I/O of a > NeXT 030 and an 040? I seem to remember my regular 040 mono slab at my > last job being a little more speedy despite my disk being faster than the > one in that machine. The DMA I/O subsystems are identical. The faster 040 CPU helps, of course, in producing or consuming data for the DMA subsystem more quickly. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does this mean I can fit more RAM in my machine? Date: 8 Aug 1996 18:20:54 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4udb66$sim@news.next.com> References: <4ucep2$a61@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <4ucep2$a61@news.acns.nwu.edu> jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: > > By the way, does anyone know whether 30-pin SIMMs are going to > become available in 16 MB chunks, and if so whether our non-turbo > black hardware can use them? It would be sorta fun to put 128 MB > into an old cube.... The non-Turbo NeXTStation and Cube CPU boards only recognize 1 Mb and 4 Mb 30 pin SIMMs. The maximum installable memory in the Cube board is 64 Mb, and 32 Mb in the NeXTStation. It sounded like a lot of memory back in 1990... Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multiple Motherboards in Cubes? Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 11:23:24 -0700 Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-0808961123250001@pool019.max14.los-angeles.ca.dynip.alter.net> References: <darkon-0708960358500001@news.netins.net> >I have heard that the possibility of running >multiple motherboards in NeXT cubes may exist. This is true, and there is a faq that details step by step how to do this. I can't remember where it is located, but I think you could find it on the nebula cd from walnut creek. The files may be available on their ftp site as well. ftp.cdrom.com Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DTP caching SCSI? Date: 8 Aug 1996 20:33:47 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4udivb$le0@news.onramp.net> Anyone now of a distributor for the DTP caching SCSI controllers? Please reply by email, Steve
From: kingsing@smartt.com (Pardeep Puar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PLEASE ANSWER Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 17:38:24 GMT Organization: KTK Communications Ltd. (SmarttNet, http://www.smartt.com) Message-ID: <4udis4$ren@ktk2.smartt.com> 1. Assume the time to pass over a single sector on one track on one surface of a hard disk, is exactly equal to the time it takes to read the data from that single sector. The disk is in question has 512 bytes per sector, rotates at 300 rpm and has 256 sectors per track. Disregarding seek time and knowing that the time to process an interrupt is 50 nanoseconds, determine the percent amount of time the CPU is involved in the read of one sector under the following conditions (Show your work!): a) the system uses 32 bit words and the disk interrupts the CPU once for every word transferred b) the disk interrupts the CPU once for every sector transferred 2. If a DMA module is transferring 128K bytes per second, sends them once byte at a time across the bus. The CPU averages 5 million instruction per second and on average each instruction uses 5 bus cycles. What percentage of the system bus cycles is the DMA module stealing from the CPU? (Show your work!) 3. A serial device sends 7 bit ASCII characters in different formats over a 31.2Kbps line. What are the maximum data rates (in ASCII characters per send) given the following data formats (Show your work!): a) for every character there is one start bit, one stop bit and on parity bit. b) every character has 7 data bits and one parity bit. The data bytes are then inserted in protocol frames with 34 control bytes for every 94 data bytes c) one parity bit, 7 data bits framed with 72 control bytes and 1280 data bytes 4. A tribe lived in a village in a deep valley and the only water source was a river that flowed down into the valley. The water had to be regulated or there would be no water left in the dry season and the village would wash away in the wet season. So, the villagers built a dam and gates to control the amount of water that flowed down into the valley. The villager’s water supply also varied daily and increased/decreased over time, as the population increased/decreased. Men took turns staying up at the valley’s edge for a month to control the flow of the river based on the daily needs of the tribe. The trive needed some way of signaling the water controller to increase or decrease the water flow. At the tribe meeting it was noted that the water controller could see the village from the dam location and the following three possible solutions were suggested: · use smoke signals from the main fire in the village · each month the new controller would take new instructions from the chief up to the top and implement them (i.e. more water or less water) · string a log vine up to the top of the valley and tie it to a noise maker (e.g. drum) You are the tribe’s chief. Choose the method you think would be the most effective, describe the operations of increasing and decreasing water flow and describe why this method is more effective than the others? Please sent your answers to kingsing@smartt.com
From: rakesh@arp.com (Rakesh Dubey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PLEASE ANSWER Date: 08 Aug 1996 14:22:00 -0700 Organization: GRANITE Systems, Inc. Sender: rakesh@fountainhead.granite.com Message-ID: <wu20hho9l3.fsf@fountainhead.granite.com> References: <4udis4$ren@ktk2.smartt.com> In-reply-to: kingsing@smartt.com's message of Thu, 08 Aug 1996 17:38:24 GMT Sure. Please come and get the answers or would you prefer that I mail them to your instructor directly :-) -Rakesh
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: compressed air -- oops, what was that? Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 18:15:36 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Qm2aQ8i00iVGI7nVZp@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <199608080543.BAA02929@nerc.com> In-Reply-To: <199608080543.BAA02929@nerc.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 8-Aug-96 compressed air -- oops, wha.. by "Timothy J. Luoma"@nerc. > Bought some, tested it into the trash can to make sure it worked > ok, and pointed it at the inside of the slab, and this HUGE (well, > it looked huge, probably wasn't) blast of white stuff blasts its way > all over everything. My heart stopped completely for 14 seconds. > The "liquid?" vanished on contact (and of course everything was > turned off at the time. I thought the can might need to purge, so I > aimed it at the trash can.... worked fine. Pointed it at the slab, > white stuff. If you examine the can of compressed air, you will probably find simple directions which say (roughly) the following: "Hold the can vertically. Spray in short bursts. Don't shake." If you don't follow these instructions, you end up spraying some of the contents of the can while it's still compressed as a liquid. This liquid will absorb heat from the surface it hits, and vaporize into air-- and enough heat gets removed that it could cause frostbite (on people) or frost damage to other things. I would suggest following the directions. :-) > Well at that point I figured that my heart couldn't take much more > of that (I can see the post to csn.marketplace "I'm looking to > replace the slab that I just froze to death while trying to remove > dust"). But now I'm looking for someone to tell me that this is OK > and isn't a problem (everything seems to be working OK) or someone > to tell me that what I really should be using is a very small > vacuum. If you've got a vacuum that is _not_ belt-driven, it should be okay. You can purchase small vacuums that are intended to clean keyboards, computers, stereos, and other electronic devices. Normal vacuums which are belt driven generate a lot of static electricity by the same principle that makes Van de Graaff generators (the "lightning machines" at museums) work. Static electricity can and will fry your machine. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dec Alpha Sony SE monitor on Turbo Color NeXT? Date: 08 Aug 1996 23:59:10 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Distribution: world Message-ID: <BRISINDA.96Aug8175911@ip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Hi there, Just wondering if anyone has tried connecting a "Dec Alpha" monitor (identical to Sony 17" SE model as I've been told) to a color turbo NeXTstation? Also what's the difference between the Sony SE and the Sony SEII? Thanks, Dale -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca or dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (NeXTmail) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hardware Docs Needed Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 17:36:47 -0700 Organization: Tidewater Community College Message-ID: <32014D9F.7E6A@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am the proud, new owner of a non-Turbo Mono Next Station running NS 3.0 What I need are the hardware docs that came with it. I have found a NS3.0 CD and docs so I have the software covered, just no hardware docs. If anyone has any pointers to where I can find copies, or if anyone has a set they can part with for money, I will be forever grateful. I am also looking for the NS 3.1 CD and docs since I have a NS 3.1 developer but no NS 3.1 user to go with it. Pete Borders tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Joseph McWilliams <mcwilljg@euler.sfasu.edu> Subject: Setting emacs key bindings on Intel hardware? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960808120935.18469A-100000@euler> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:48:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How does one enable the key bindings on Intel hardware. Specifically I want the up- and down-arrows to access the command history list. The setup that worked on my old blackbox doesn't work on the Intel machine. Joe McWilliams
From: hnalgae@soback.kornet.nm.kr (SungJin Kang (kornet)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mount DOS partition after installing NS3.3. Date: 9 Aug 1996 06:54:27 GMT Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <4uenb3$q9a@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Hi, there. I add new HDD which has DOS partition after installing NS3.3. So I want to mount DOS partition in NS, but I can't. My disk structure is followed. EIDE 1st, master, 1.27G, NS3.3 EIDE 1st, slave, LG-CDROM drive EIDE 2nd, master, 1.27G, Linux EIDE 2nd, slave, 420M, DOS Can you tell me how to mount DOS partition, specially about mount command? And I want to know what device name of DOS HDD in my case. (eg. hd0d?) Thanks for reading this. Hayan Nalgae. hnalgae@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~hnalgae
From: jmcnamar@onramp.net (Jason L. McNamara) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CogentEM960 and lockups under heavy load Date: 9 Aug 1996 06:50:33 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4uen3p$8l3@news.onramp.net> References: <4tt6h9$df9@chinx10.thoughtport.net> bbum@friday.com writes > It turns out that the Network driver must be initialized before the SCSI > driver or else, under heavy loads, the Cogent can cause the machine to > lock up completely. This was verified with Cogent's technical support > [Which, by the way, was incredibly fast and answered my question > thouroughly w/followups!]. Even as it has grown over the past two years, Cogent has always maintained superior tech support. 1. Call 800 number. Rings a couple times, and then *a person* answers the phone. 2. Ask for tech support. Phone rings a couple more times. 3. Guy picks up on the other end, says "Tech Support, can I help you?" Even with Adaptec's purchase of Cogent, we know that no changes are planned which will affect how the Cogent division does support. Furthermore, they know NEXTSTEP and plan to keep supporting it. Jason -- Jason McNamara / jmcnamar@onramp.net (NeXTMail encouraged!) Bifrost Workstations, Inc. NEXTSTEP, OpenStep, and WebObjects 10850 Richmond Ave, Suite 270 on Intel & SPARC systems Houston, TX 77042 http://www.stepwise.com/bwi.html 713.952.9949 voice / 713.952.9934 facsimile
From: ŸŸŸŸŸúlŸŸŸŸŸrubsamen@pro-audio.freinet.de (Marcus Rübsamen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 4.0 and full duplex sound Date: 9 Aug 1996 06:53:14 GMT Organization: pro audio Message-ID: <4uen8q$d7@pro-audio.freinet.de> References: <4ub07k$187@news3.digex.net> <wu3f1yoj6i.fsf@fountainhead.granite.com> Hi, is there a software that allows to record and playback sounds at the same time on black hardware? I have already Digital Ears. Thanks, - Marcus
From: yong@charlie.cns.iit.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IDE CDROM DRIVE Date: 9 Aug 1996 07:41:15 GMT Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology Message-ID: <4ueq2r$dmq@condor.cns.iit.edu> Hi, I was wondering if I can use Creative(Sound Blaster) 8 X IDE CD-ROM Drive. thanks Yong Yoo yong@charlie.cns.iit.edu
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: compressed air -- oops, what was that? Date: 9 Aug 1996 09:21:01 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-d-41.usc.edu Message-ID: <4uevtt$6pf@usc.edu> References: <199608080543.BAA02929@nerc.com> Cc: luomat@nerc.com In <199608080543.BAA02929@nerc.com> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > > Ok, so I've been having this problem with lines across my monitor, > and someone suggested that it might be due to dust on the video > stuff inside the slab. They suggested I might try blowing out the > dust, maybe even some compressed air. I tried the lung-version a > couple times, and that seemed to work, but of course I thought it > would be BETTER if I used compressed air. > > Bought some, tested it into the trash can to make sure it worked > ok, and pointed it at the inside of the slab, and this HUGE (well, > it looked huge, probably wasn't) blast of white stuff blasts its way > all over everything. My heart stopped completely for 14 seconds. > The "liquid?" vanished on contact (and of course everything was > turned off at the time. I thought the can might need to purge, so I > aimed it at the trash can.... worked fine. Pointed it at the slab, > white stuff. Timothy - You have getting into a lot trouble lately (according to the many different posts I've read of yours recently)? What is the explanation - cat's paw in fire? dark cloud just moved over your head and is staying there? Girlfriend problems? 14 seconds! Very impressive! What part of your life did you see during that time? May the force be with you! -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: question on cube modem Date: 9 Aug 1996 07:30:30 -0400 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <4uf7gm$jf4@papoose.quick.com> References: <4u8btm$fli@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> In article <4u8btm$fli@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, Peter Schmidt <schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu> wrote: >I have a 040 cube, and I have a modem, a cable, the wiring diagram, and a >soldering iron. Hardware-wise, I believe that I am all set. > >My problem is that my NeXT is at home, and my net connection is at work, and >so getting packages like SLIP, PPP, etc onto the machine is trouble. > >Can anyone outline a stratagy for taking a cube with NS 2.1 on it and making >the first connection across a SLIP connection? Can I get any file transfer >across a SLIP connection in order to download the SLIP package? Also, in >the man pages for zs, cu, tip, etc, these packages don't seem to specify >which device has the modem on it. Am I missing editing an /etc script >to tell the machine where the modem is? If you have a floppy in your cube, you can transfer files via a DOS formatted floppy disk. You can break the files into smaller pieces if you need to and then cat the pieces together once on the cube. If you have an external hard drive or tape drive (that you can wipe) you can sneakernet the whole drive. If you have no NS at work, you can use tar or cpio to write a bunch of stuff to the tape (or the raw disk device). For wire-only options, you have a couple of choices. 1. Set up uucp between home and work and use that to transfer the files reliably. 2. Use tip (at a faily low baud rate 9600-19200) to transfer individual uuencoded pieces of rz (zmodem recieve code) then use rz+sz to download slip or ppp. >My 2nd question is, I have a PC with ethernet next to the NeXT. Is there an >ftp server for dos so that I can back-up my dos stuff onto the NeXT? Once I >back-up dos onto the NeXT, I'll install Solaris, and have a nice little lan, >complete with dial-up connection to get SLIP, etc, from my office. > >Any pointers to FAQ's, or other help pages would be apreciated. Once again, >any helpful advice will be added to my NeXT hardware stuff which I keep at >http://biomech.mae.cornell.edu/~schmidt/next/ -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
From: Etienne_Klein@lca.u-nancy.fr (Etienne Klein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Two ethernet cards with NeXTSTEP. Is it possible ? Date: 9 Aug 1996 13:05:07 GMT Organization: CIRIL, Nancy, France Message-ID: <4ufd23$663@arcturus.ciril.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I would like to set up a NeXTSTEP PC as follow: Ethernet 100 MB Ethernet 10 MB Main server <==================|_______|--------------> other machines | NSI | |_______| Is it possible ? If it is, what do I need and how can I configure the box ? Thank you very much for any answer. Etienne Klein Laboratoire de Chimie Analytique Faculte de Pharmacie de Nancy
From: ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca (Will Waites) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer cable Date: 09 Aug 1996 10:07:37 -0400 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Sender: ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca Message-ID: <lwrapgabx2.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> Hello, I have recently bought a NeXT station and printer. However there is no printer cable. Does this just use a generic 9-pin male to 9-pin male serial cable or is it wired differently? If it is wired differently could someone please post a wiring diagram? Thanks Will Waites ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca
From: torchusa@ultranet.com (David Webster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.printing,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.marketplacem,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,de.com.misc,de.comp.sys.amiga.tech,de.comp.sys.amiga.tech,fido.ger.hardware,fido.ger.transputer,fido.hardware-ger,fido7.hardw.cdrom,fido7.hardw.microwave,fido7.hardw.pc.cpu Subject: Alternative Solutions to Computer Hardware and Software Support Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 14:53:10 GMT Organization: Torch usa Message-ID: <4ufj9t$4ri@decius.ultra.net> An Alternative Solution to Software & Hardware Support Torch USA announces a new website designed to help endusers with their software & hardware questions. A third party consultant for the last ten years, offers an unbiased approach to hardware and software support.. At www.torch-usa.com, find alternate parts, surplus materials, and answers to your difficult questions. Check us out a www.torch-usa.com of call 800-300-2199.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Two ethernet cards with NeXTSTEP. Is it possible ? Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 12:00:22 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Am2q2K200iVDA3xqha@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <4ufd23$663@arcturus.ciril.fr> In-Reply-To: <4ufd23$663@arcturus.ciril.fr> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 9-Aug-96 Two ethernet cards with NeX.. by Etienne Klein@lca.u-nanc > I would like to set up a NeXTSTEP PC as follow: > > Ethernet 100 MB Ethernet 10 MB > Main server <==================|_______|--------------> other machines > | NSI | > |_______| Multihomed hosts are "not supported by NEXTSTEP". It probably will still work, but nobody at NeXT has tested and made that type of setup reliable, or is going to support that configuration if you encounter problems. You might consider getting a 10/100 Mbs hub (concentrator?) instead-- go talk to Cisco about their products. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Turid Rogstad <rogstad@admin.uio.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP? Install 3.3 on Dell Dimension Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 18:44:04 -2050 Organization: University of Oslo, Norway Message-ID: <330B1D7C.2C95@admin.uio.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone I have just purchased a Dell Dimension XPSc133, with a 2,5GB EIDE harddisk and a atapi Sony CDU311 (8x) CD-Rom. I have set up the machine so the hardisk and the CD-Rom are both connected to the primary controller, with the harddisk as master and the CD as slave. I have then followed the instructions given in Nextanswer 1933 (EIDE/ATAPI support in NS 3.3) which says that you should use the Adaptec 154x SCSI driver when prompted for a device driver for the CD-Rom and use the IDE driver for the harddisk. I have done so and is trys to boot, but it finds the hardisk, but then it says it cannot find any SCSI controller and no CD-Rom, thereafter it asks for a root device. This is the first time I have tried to install Next on an Intel machine, previously I have had a Nextdimension which was very easy to install on. I am afraid I am slightly confused and how no clue how to solve the problem. If anybody is able to give some good advice I would be very grateful. Thank you Sidsel Regnell
From: Sidsel Regnell <sidsel.regnell@admin.uio.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP? Install 3.3 on Dell Dimension Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 18:51:03 -2050 Organization: University of Oslo, Norway Message-ID: <330B1F1F.1B4F@admin.uio.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone I have just purchased a Dell Dimension XPSc133, with a 2,5GB EIDE harddisk and a atapi Sony CDU311 (8x) CD-Rom. I have set up the machine so the hardisk and the CD-Rom are both connected to the primary controller, with the harddisk as master and the CD as slave. I have then followed the instructions given in Nextanswer 1933 (EIDE/ATAPI support in NS 3.3) which says that you should use the Adaptec 154x SCSI driver when prompted for a device driver for the CD-Rom and use the IDE driver for the harddisk. I have done so and is trys to boot, but it finds the hardisk, but then it says it cannot find any SCSI controller and no CD-Rom, thereafter it asks for a root device. This is the first time I have tried to install Next on an Intel machine, previously I have had a Nextdimension which was very easy to install on. I am afraid I am slightly confused and how no clue how to solve the problem. If anybody is able to give some good advice I would be very grateful. Thank you Sidsel Regnell
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun monitor on NeXT Turbo? Date: 9 Aug 1996 17:11:09 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4ufrfd$d6@turbocat.turbocat.de> References: <4ud3jo$nch@inet-prime.comshare.com> alanf@izzy.net wrote: > Is there a way to use a spare color monitor from a Sparcstation 20 on a NeXT > Turbo ADB? > Thanks, > Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net) > PIN 1 SCL DDC clock input PIN 8 Sense 1 PIN 2 Not used PIN 9 Sense 0 PIN 3 Sense 2 PIN 10 Cgnd PIN 4 SGND PIN A1 Red PIN 5 Csync PIN A2 Green PIN 6 SDA serial data I/O PIN A3 Blue PIN 7 Vsync S0 and S1 is "Ground" Sens is PIN 4 , PIN 5 is Hsync if PIN 7 is Vsync. That's for the SUN PN #365-1335. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Printer cable Date: 9 Aug 1996 17:48:50 GMT Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland Message-ID: <4uftm2$1ucb@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <lwrapgabx2.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> Will Waites (ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca) wrote: > I have recently bought a NeXT station and printer. However there is no > printer cable. Does this just use a generic 9-pin male to 9-pin male > serial cable or is it wired differently? If it is wired differently > could someone please post a wiring diagram? Sure, you can use that. However, where'd you want to plug it in? :-) The serial ports on black hardware are of RS422 type (mini DIN). Please check out the NeXT FAQ, e.g. on http://peanuts.leo.org) for pointers to compatible cables. Wiring is simple, but soldering these little plugs is quite difficult. Some Mac modem cables have been reported to work, but not all of them. It seems to have to do with the handshaking lines. Maybe your friendly Mac dealer will let you out try a cable first. Best wishes, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: cdodson@vortex.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Backup/Restore using 8mm tape Date: 9 Aug 1996 19:25:59 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <4ug3c7$cfa@transfer.stratus.com> Hi, I have a question for those if you who may have used some flavor of Exabyte 8mm drive to backup your systems. I'm using a Contemporary Cybernetics CY8500 (basically an OEM'd Exabyte) to backup my system. I have the SCSI tape driver installed and I'm able to use "dump" to write a tape successfully using: dump 0fs /dev/nrst0 1200000 / The problem I'm having is with restore. I cannot seem to get the restore command to read the tape (restore ivf /dev/nrst0) and I'm guessing the problem is one of block size. What is the "default" block size for a NextStep dump ? Might there be another problem here as well ? Thanks in advance for any help you might have to offer. Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) cdodson@cac.stratus.com
From: Ray <ray@cynapses.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP? Install 3.3 on Dell Dimension Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 16:05:48 -0700 Organization: Cynapses Computer and Internet Services Message-ID: <320BC44B.5E5E@cynapses.com> References: <330B1F1F.1B4F@admin.uio.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Sidsel Regnell <sidsel.regnell@admin.uio.no> Sidsel Regnell wrote: > > Hello everyone > > I have just purchased a Dell Dimension XPSc133, with a 2,5GB EIDE > harddisk and a atapi Sony CDU311 (8x) CD-Rom. I have set up the > machine so the hardisk and the CD-Rom are both connected to the > primary controller, with the harddisk as master and the CD as slave. I > have then followed the instructions given in Nextanswer 1933 > (EIDE/ATAPI support in NS 3.3) which says that you should use the > Adaptec 154x SCSI driver when prompted for a device driver for the > CD-Rom and use the IDE driver for the harddisk. I have done so and is > trys to boot, but it finds the hardisk, but then it says it cannot > find any SCSI controller and no CD-Rom, thereafter it asks for a root > device. This is the first time I have tried to install Next on an > Intel machine, previously I have had a Nextdimension which was very > easy to install on. I am afraid I am slightly confused and how no clue > how to solve the problem. > If anybody is able to give some good advice I would be very grateful. > > Thank you > > Sidsel Regnell I don't the startup disks that are shipped with NeXTstep 3.3 have IDE CD-ROM drivers on them. I'm not sure if they exist anywhere else, but they're not on the startup disks. If you find something, let me know. It'd be nice to have.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What motherboard can you recommend? ? From: saab@lyceum.com (Wilson) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <320bcec8.0@dnews.lyceum.com> Date: 9 Aug 96 23:50:32 GMT I'm looking to buy either an: Asus Motherboard with the Award Bios or A SuperMicro with AMI Bios. I'll have at least two operating systems (Next, NT, Win95) on the machine. Which board would you recommend and why? An email response is appreciated. Walter walter@walter.com
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Printer cable Date: 9 Aug 1996 19:27:02 -0700 Organization: The Turbocolor On My Desk Message-ID: <4ugs1m$768@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <lwrapgabx2.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> <4uftm2$1ucb@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) wrote: >Will Waites (ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca) wrote: >> I have recently bought a NeXT station and printer. However there is no >> printer cable. Does this just use a generic 9-pin male to 9-pin male >> serial cable or is it wired differently? If it is wired differently >> could someone please post a wiring diagram? > >Sure, you can use that. However, where'd you want to plug it in? :-) >The serial ports on black hardware are of RS422 type (mini DIN). Please >check out the NeXT FAQ, e.g. on http://peanuts.leo.org) for pointers >to compatible cables. Wiring is simple, but soldering these little >plugs is quite difficult. > >Some Mac modem cables have been reported to work, but not all of >them. It seems to have to do with the handshaking lines. Maybe >your friendly Mac dealer will let you out try a cable first. The NeXT Laser Printer (I assume that's what he has via the description of the cable he's thinking of) requires a 9-pin male to 9-pin male cable. A straight serial cable should work for the NLP, it does here at least for about the last 2 years and nothing has blown up (or smoked) yet. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: thedrjay@aol.com (The Dr Jay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 and 64Mb RAM ? Date: 10 Aug 1996 01:29:29 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4uh6np$6o9@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4u3q37$8r8@hkt001.hkt.net> You are not the only one with this problem. I upgraded to from 40 megabytes to 64 and could not get my computer to boot NextStep 3.3. For an supposedly advanced operating system this is annoying. All the other operating systems that are installed on my computer worked without any problems Windows NT, Windows 95, and OS/2. Before finding out why I got pissed off and deleted NextStep form my computer. What has happened is when you upped the ram it overlapped the address of your video card. I now know the fix for this problem. Try this reboot the system and type "config=Default" (w/out the "" marks of course) at the "boot:" prompt. Login as root. Go to NextAdmin and start up the Config.app. Go to display and you should see a field called "Mapped Memory" or "Memory Mapped" ( I can't remember which) on the display panel. You should see a hexadecimal number like 0x2000000. Change the hexadecimal number to 0xA000000. Make sure that you hit the enter or return key so that the change takes effect. Then logout and restart the system. This change allows your video memory to be mapped to the appropriate area of your base RAM w/out conflict. I hope that when I get NextStep 4.0 and give it a try they will have this fixed. This type of problem should never happen with an advanced operating system that needs a lot of ram to work well. I expect better but should realize after all the postings on just trying to install and partition large hard drives with NextStep that I shouldn’t be surprised .
From: "Nick Carrigan" <nickc@nickc.seanet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP? Install 3.3 on Dell Dimension Date: 10 Aug 1996 06:27:02 GMT Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <01bb8684$d8da2280$f84eb6cc@nickc> References: <330B1F1F.1B4F@admin.uio.no> You have to go into NeXTANSWERS and look for the NeXT image of the EIDE drivers. Then you have to get RAWRITE.EXE ... once those are downloaded, then you can make a floppy readable by NeXT... Then when it boots, you select Adaptec 154x for your CDROM drive, but then you enter (i think) the # 8 for other disk. Then put the image you made in the drive... then select EIDE interface... After it installs, then add the second EIDE so you can run the cdrom drive off the secondary adapter... Nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: SCSI chaining Message-ID: <Dvu7D0.GBA@euler.han.de> Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <199608080636.CAA00414@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 20:53:24 GMT writes > > slab (sd1a) ------ > | > | > SCSI EZ-135 (terminated) (sd2a) --- SCSI HD (sd0a) > > Right now I have an internal SCSI CD-ROM which will be external as > soon as the external case comes in (a day or two). It just seemed > very hot inside the case where the 1gig external HD is, and worth > the $50 to get an external case. > > Now the CD will not be powered on all the time, because I use it > very rarely (another reason for the external case). Where should it > be located? The easiest thing for all concerned (ie me) would be > to remove the terminator from the 2nd EZ drive SCSI port and connect > the CD there (as sd3a). My GUESS is that I can have the CD > attached there even without the power on without causing a SCSI > bus/terminator error. scsi bus is a bus. It does not matter if a powered-off device is attached to the bus somewhere (if it is not meant to provide active termination in which case it needed power). So you may have power turned on or off as it pleases you. Now switching power on or off while the system is up and probably making use of devices (i.e. having active communication enabled), this may or may not provide for some malfunctioning depending on bit luck. Juergen --- Fon +49 511 92455-51 NeXTMail welcome No Mime Fax +49 511 92455-52 = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: gclem@dannug.dk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 4.0 and full duplex sound Date: 8 Aug 1996 06:37:10 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <4uc1um$d8r@snaps.dannug.dk> References: <wu3f1yoj6i.fsf@fountainhead.granite.com> I feel pretty sure that the i56 card from i-link in Berlin can do the "full-duplex" thing. We are using a 100% custom driver bypassing the NeXT sound library and we do simultaneous recording and playback. Try to contact Carsten_Gericke@ilink.de for more information. Geert Rakesh Dubey writes > In article <4ub07k$187@news3.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: > > > Hi all, > > > > Does 4.0 have ANY drivers available for ANY sound card allowing for full > > duplex sound; ie simultaneous recording and playback of sound? Of course > > I'm talking about intel based hardware (or even perhaps SUN). Not NeXT > > hardware, which as far as I know is still the only NEXTSTEP/OPNESTEP > > hardware/software mix that can do full duplex sound. > > > > I think it is possible to write a driver that does this. You probably > have to know (or guess) something about the behavior of IOAudio but I > am not sure. > > Also there are limitations like the data types/sampling rates have to > be the same for play and record etc. At one time this "full duplex" > wasn't supported by most audio hardware. > > -Rakesh
From: gclem@dannug.dk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP DesignJet 755CM and NS 3.3 Date: 8 Aug 1996 13:47:45 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ucr61$dlk@snaps.dannug.dk> Hi there, Anybody that has managed to print PS2 from NS to HP DesignJet 755CM (parallel port or ethernet interface)? When I try, the PS seems to be received OK, but eventually the printer returns to its ready state without printing anything. Thx. Geert
From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PLEASE ANSWER Date: 8 Aug 1996 22:46:58 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Message-ID: <4udqp2$rng@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: <4udis4$ren@ktk2.smartt.com> In article <4udis4$ren@ktk2.smartt.com>, kingsing@smartt.com (Pardeep Puar) writes: (snip to save bandwidth) You _must_ be kidding. -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- Grad. Student, Physics, Univ. of Houston, ghost@ghost.neosoft.com
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Monsterscope Date: 10 Aug 1996 16:18:10 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <4uico2$dln@spool.cs.wisc.edu> References: <320860C4.41C1@blackstar.ssnet.com> "Hasssan N. Kelley" <hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com> writes: >Does anyone have Monsterscope. It is a scope/spectrum analyzer piece of >software that was with NEXTSTEP 3.2 but not 3.3. If so I sure would >like to get it from you. I think it's on the Peanuts archive. Try: ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/demos_nextstep2.1/MonsterScope.2.1.N.b.gnutar.gz Regards, David Finton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Backup/Restore using 8mm tape Message-ID: <Dvx30y.2BA@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <4ug3c7$cfa@transfer.stratus.com> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 10:12:34 GMT In article <4ug3c7$cfa@transfer.stratus.com> cdodson@vortex.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson) writes: > Hi, > > I have a question for those if you who may have used some > flavor of > Exabyte 8mm drive to backup your systems. I'm using a Contemporary > Cybernetics CY8500 (basically an OEM'd Exabyte) to backup my system. > I have the SCSI tape driver installed and I'm able to use "dump" > to write a tape successfully using: > > dump 0fs /dev/nrst0 1200000 / > > The problem I'm having is with restore. I cannot seem to get the > restore command to read the tape (restore ivf /dev/nrst0) and I'm > guessing the problem is one of block size. What is the "default" > block size for a NextStep dump ? Might there be another problem > here as well ? > Bad case of RTFM, IMHO! The Exabyte is to be accessed through /dev/rxt0! 'apropos tape' would have told you to look it up through 'man st' :-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Printer cable Message-ID: <Dvx3JL.2C0@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <lwrapgabx2.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 10:23:45 GMT In article <lwrapgabx2.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> ww@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca (Will Waites) writes: > Hello, > > I have recently bought a NeXT station and printer. However there is no > printer cable. Does this just use a generic 9-pin male to 9-pin male > serial cable or is it wired differently? If it is wired differently > could someone please post a wiring diagram? > A one to one will do, but probably not anyone. The printer port is a high speed synchronous serial interface. And the cable must be good enough to support 2 Mb digital signals. Not any length of plain ole serial cable would do this trick. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: SCSI chaining Message-ID: <Dvx3yp.2Cr@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <199608080636.CAA00414@nerc.com> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 10:32:49 GMT In article <199608080636.CAA00414@nerc.com> writes: > slab (sd1a) ------ > | > | > SCSI EZ-135 (terminated) (sd2a) --- SCSI HD (sd0a) > > Right now I have an internal SCSI CD-ROM which will be external as > soon as the external case comes in (a day or two). It just seemed > very hot inside the case where the 1gig external HD is, and worth > the $50 to get an external case. > > Now the CD will not be powered on all the time, because I use it > very rarely (another reason for the external case). Where should it > be located? The easiest thing for all concerned (ie me) would be > to remove the terminator from the 2nd EZ drive SCSI port and connect > the CD there (as sd3a). My GUESS is that I can have the CD > attached there even without the power on without causing a SCSI > bus/terminator error. > Depends on where you get the term power from (bus or device) Device is oft chosen to reduce ground lead impendance (important on long cables). And you know that switching a device on or off while the system is running risks giving a serious blow to the file system currently written to. And that you can't access any device powered up after booting the system... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Joseph McWilliams <mcwilljg@euler.sfasu.edu> Subject: Modem configuration for INTEL hardware? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960810190509.1937B-100000@euler> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 19:09:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've switched from a blackbox, on which my modem was poperly configured to NeXTStep on an INTEL box. The modem drops characters and loses control codes. I am assuming the problem lies on an improper modem configuration. Can someone send me the proper configuration. Thanks. Joe McWilliams
From: matthews@ripple.cs.wwu.EDU (Geoffrey Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Experience with twinheads from deepspace? Date: 11 Aug 1996 00:54:50 GMT Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <4ujb0q$2rr@ra.cc.wwu.edu> Keywords: notebooks nextstep I'm thinking of buying a twinhead notebook from deepspace technologies. Any good or bad experiences out there? -- Geoffrey Matthews matthews@cs.wwu.edu voice:360-650-3797 fax:360-650-7788
From: Terry Wilson <twilson@erinet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installation Woes Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 22:14:38 -0400 Organization: Dayton Internet Advertising (DIA) Message-ID: <320D420E.6EB9@erinet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm trying to install NS3.3 on a sytem with a Cyrex 166+ processor, a S1469 430VX PCI-ISA motherboard and a Stealth64 2meg vram video card. I also have a 1.08 gig Western digital harddrive and a toshiba 4x cdrom. I have the CDROM and the hard drive on the primary controller with the cdrom as slave. I start the installation and I select the scsi driver (I know this doesn't matter) then I select the EIDE driver version 3.3 from my disk I downloaded from NeXT. I then select 1 (EIDE and ATAPI driver) and 1 again to continue installation without installing additional drivers. At that point the system hangs up and the video goes black. Does anyone have any suggestions? I know there was a bug with the NS3.3 and the stealth64 chipset that occurred during boot and you had to disable boot graphics by selecting -v (verbose) at the boot prompt. Could this be causing me a problem? If so how do I work around it. (I tried -v when I started the installation). If not, I'm open to suggestions. Thanks for any help I receive, Terry
From: Tito <talugtu@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: QUESTION: Single 72 pin slot on MB Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 20:50:00 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <320D5868.78DE@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Question: Single 72 pin (simm) slot on 040 motherboard, what is it for? Thanx tito talugtu@slip.net
From: "Hasssan N. Kelley" <hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 95 & 3.3 Networking problem Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 09:11:25 -0400 Organization: SSNet -- Public Internet Access in Delaware! Message-ID: <320DDBFD.2112@blackstar.ssnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am having a problem networking my 95/linux box to my NEXTSTEP 3.3 black box. Here are some symptoms of the problem: 1. I can ping my NeXTstation TurboColor from both linux and 95. 2. I can ping my 95/linux box from my NeXTstation TurboColor. 3. I can only ping my 95/linux from my from my NeXTstation TurboColor if I use the the IP address. For example this command will be successful from the NeXTstation TurboColor: ping 205.216.96.168 but this is not: ping blackstar.ssnet.com 4. When I try to ftp or telnet from the 95/linux box to the NeXTstation TurboColor and vice versa nothing happens. The cursors just sits there doing nothing. I haven't waited long enough to see if there was a timeout. Please mail or post solutions, ideas, brainstorms etc. I would be very greatful. Hassan
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: QUESTION: Single 72 pin slot on MB Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 11:38:54 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gm3TuCy00iWZA1fHJP@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <320D5868.78DE@slip.net> In-Reply-To: <320D5868.78DE@slip.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-Aug-96 QUESTION: Single 72 pin slo.. by Tito@slip.net > Question: Single 72 pin (simm) slot on 040 motherboard, what is it for? RAM slot for the m56001 DSP. Nobody ever uses it, pretty much. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Subject: Re: Partitioning second SCSI disk (Seagate). Problems Message-ID: <Dvv0Dv.By@hurka.UUCP> Keywords: Bogus disk information Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka) Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.) References: <4uaqr7$13pa@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 07:20:18 GMT In article <4uaqr7$13pa@msunews.cl.msu.edu> punch@cps.msu.edu (Dr William Punch) writes: > I had posted this information before. I have a P5-90 with a 1540CF > card. I have a 1Gb IBM drive, split into 750Mb NeXT and 250Mb > Win3.1 partitions. I added a 500Mb Seagate to this configuration > in hopes of partitioning the Seagate into two parts: 100Mb for > NeXT swap and 400Mb for Win95. Well, I can use fdisk on the DOS > side to partition it into two pieces, but the NeXT doesn't see > it. I can reformat it and the NeXT sees it, but will only setup > the whole thing as NeXT. > > If I format it under NeXT, then try to use the 3.3 fdisk on NeXT, > I get an error saying something like: > > "Bogus disk information, make sure your have enabled BIOS on your SCSI > card" NeXTSTEP fdisk only work, if the disk, you want to partition, is handled by BIOS of your SCSI card. On the Adaptec154x only SCSI disks with SCSI ID 0 and 1 are handled by Adaptec BIOS. Note: I remember that newer version of the Adaptec BIOS can handle all the SCSI disks, if you set the correct option in the Adaptec setup. So I suggest you to set your 1GB IBM to SCSI ID 0 and your second 500MB Seagate to SCSI ID 1 and try to create the DOS and NeXTSTEP partition on Seagate with fdisk under NeXTSTEP. This time it should work. Good luck, -- Tomas Hurka tom@hukatronic.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Best HW for fast compiles Date: 11 Aug 1996 21:38:16 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4uljs8$av3@news.onramp.net> Since OpenStep is out for NT and (in beta) Solaris, let's change the test to compiling Draw.app, which has been ported. Test results are welcome! Steve dekorte@suite.com ------- TEST: --- cd /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/Backspace time make install SRCROOT=/tmp/src DSTROOT=/tmp/dst OBJROOT=/tmp/obj SYMROOT=/tmp/sym UPDATED RESULTS: () --- 1st BEST SYSTEM BOARD/CACHE CPU/CLK RAM CONTROLLER/DISK/OTHER ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6:34 ?:?? Classic Mono (NS3.2) 040/25 20 SG ST1480 (orig. 400 - Internal) 5:10 ?:?? NeXTstation mono 040/25 32 Fujitsu 1G, 95% full 4:15 ?:?? NeXTdimension 040/25 16 CDC SCSI-I ~22ms 4:04 ?:?? NeXTcube 040/25 40 Fujitsu 1G 65% in use 4:00 3:40 NeXTstation (NS3.3) 040/25 32 Fujitsu M2624F-512 500MB 80% full 3:05 ?:?? NeXTstation Turbo 040/33 32 Fujitsu 1G SCSI-II 10ms 2:54 ?:?? HP 712/60 7100LC/60 32 SG ST3600N (slow disk) 2:53 2:41 NeXTstationTurboColor 040/33 32 SG ST31230, Fujitsu M2684S,1024-byte blocks, set to 254 buffers on boot 2:52 2:41 NeXTstation ColorPyro 040/50 32 Fujitsu M2694ES-1024 2:28 ?:?? object.station 41 486/100 ?? Buslogic controller 2:22 ?:?? Nitro BW 040/40 32 Seagate ST1480 2:04 ?:?? SPARCstation 5/85 64 SG ST31200W 1:57 ?:?? Intel motherboard P5/90 32 (2) 1G IDE Caviar 10ms 64k 1:50 1:37 TyanEISA/VLB, 1M P5o/83 48 Adaptec 2742AT,SG 31200N + CN 1080S, cached 1:50 ?:?? HP 712/80 7100LC/80 64 HP C3325A 1:48 ?:?? SPARCstation 20/51 64 SG ST31200W 1:39 ?:?? Vektron p5/120 16e A2940UW, 4G f/w drive 1:38 ?:?? P54 Dual CPU(1 used) P5/100 32 A2940, SG 1G 1:38 ?:?? Intel Endeavor P5/90 32 A2940, Fujitsu 1g 5400, 70%full 1:37 ?:?? Dell dimension w/PB p5/133 32e Quantum 1G Fireball EIDE 1:34 ?:?? HP 712/80 7100LC/80 64 1G SEAGATE ST31230N Rev HP04 1:30 1:18 ASUS w/PB p5/100 32 NCR810 SCSI, Fujitsu 1G 1:18 ?:?? Micronics w/PB P5/133 32e A2940 Seagate ST31230N 1:13 ?:?? Intel Endeavour P5/120 64e SG ST32550N 1:13 ?:?? Micronics motherbd P5/133 64 A2940UW, 4.3G F/W SCSI-II 7200 RPM 512K 1:12 ?:?? ASUS P55TP4XE p5/120 ?? A2940, SG 2G Barracuda 1:12 0:57 ASUS P55TP4XE 256k P5/90 32 PCI DPT 2124 SCSI (4M cache no RAID) on DEC DSP 5200 13ms, 70nsRAM 1:07 ?:?? ASUS P55TP4XE P5/100 48 NCR, ST12450 F/W SCSI-II, 7200 2-head 1:06 1:06 DECpc XL Server 590 P5/90 48 DPT 2124W with 4 MB cache SG ST12550W 2G 1:06 0:52 Tyan Titan III,512k PB P5/133 40 DPT 2024:F, SG ST12550 2G 0:57 0:46 ASUS P55TP4XE 256k P5/133 64e A2940:F, SG ST32550N 2G 0:55 0:39 ASUS 256kL2, KXchipset P6/200 64 A2940, Conner 4G F, 60ns RAM 0:55 0:40 DELL P6/200 32 EIDE 2G 0:52 ?:?? Micronics P5/133 64e A2940(1.21), Conner 2G 0:51 ?:?? Intel Endeavour P5/133 40 PCI DPT 2024 SCSI (no cache or RAID) ST12550 7200 RPM 1MB (fast non-wide) 256k Pipeline Burst Mode Cache module. 0:51 ?:?? TyanTitanII 256K asych P5/120 64 60nS RAM, Adaptek2940W + SG ST32550W F/W w/ internal cache enabled. 0:51 ?:?? Gateway P6/200 32 60 ns RAM, Adaptec 2940, Seagate 2G 0:48 ?:?? ASUS 256k, KXchipset P6/180 32 A2940, Conner 4G 0:43 0:43 ASUS P55TP4N, 256KPB P6/166 64 60nsRAM, A2940, SG 32430 2G & Maxtor 1240S 1G as /tmp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU: o=overdrive, pb= PB cache RAM: e=edo SCSI: F=fast, W=wide (just for clarification) DRIVE:SG=Seagate, CN=Connor CONTROLLER: A2940 = Adaptec2940 OTHER: BEST = best time after a number of compiles(each followed by a "make clean")
From: FRGP21A@prodigy.com (Lewis Robinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Puzzled, Buy or Not ?, Logon Problem Date: 12 Aug 1996 02:26:56 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Distribution: world Message-ID: <4um4pg$1854@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> Have a chance to buy a used NEXT computer and monitor, model N1000, circa 1989. Booted machine to test it and dumbly stared at logon request - user and password. Owner has no idea how to proceed. I tried several things and of course nothing worked. Is there any hope for this machine or should it just be scrapped? - Maybe some one could use the monitor? I know COMPAQ PC innards and DOS. NEXT is a mystery to me. Any suggestions on how to bypass the password screen or reset same?
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 12 Aug 1996 04:15:11 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4umb4f$22u@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: hnalgae@soback.kornet.nm.kr (SungJin Kang (kornet)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mount DOS partition after installing NS3.3. Date: 12 Aug 1996 04:41:06 GMT Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <4umcl2$abk@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> References: <4uenb3$q9a@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> SungJin Kang (kornet) (hnalgae@soback.kornet.nm.kr) wrote: : Hi, there. : I add new HDD which has DOS partition after installing NS3.3. : So I want to mount DOS partition in NS, but I can't. : My disk structure is followed. : EIDE 1st, master, 1.27G, NS3.3 : EIDE 1st, slave, LG-CDROM drive : EIDE 2nd, master, 1.27G, Linux : EIDE 2nd, slave, 420M, DOS : Can you tell me how to mount DOS partition, specially about mount command? : And I want to know what device name of DOS HDD in my case. (eg. hd0d?) : Thanks for reading this. : Hayan Nalgae. : hnalgae@soback.kornet.nm.kr : http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~hnalgae Hi, I solved this problem. I added one more EIDE driver at Configure.app, and now I can mount DOS partition. Hayan Nalgae. hnalgae@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~hnalgae
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: QUESTION: Single 72 pin slot on MB Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DvzpwE.p74@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 20:21:50 GMT References: <320D5868.78DE@slip.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <320D5868.78DE@slip.net>, Tito <talugtu@slip.net> wrote: >Question: Single 72 pin (simm) slot on 040 motherboard, what is it for? > This is sure a FAQ. :-) It's not really a SIMM socket. It holds a memory expansion board for the DSP, containing (I think) 192K-words of high-speed memory. I think CCRMA made one that was larger, up to 512K-words, perhaps? -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L.van Emmerik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: I there an ATI MACH64 driver for NS 3.2 ??? Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 06:23:55 GMT Organization: NLnet Message-ID: <4umihg$lpa@news.NL.net> The subject says is: i am looking for an ATI Mach64 driver for NEXT v.3.2. I know there is an ATI Mach64 driver for NS3.3 but i can not use that on NS3.2 and the ATI Mach32 video driver will also not work. Any hint for a solution (exept suggesting to buy NS3.3) is welcome. Pleace Email to pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands --
From: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L.van Emmerik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Summary: Need replacement mouse for black NEXT! Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 06:55:01 GMT Organization: NLnet Message-ID: <4umkbq$lt4@news.NL.net> References: <4ua6hk$450@news.NL.net> pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L.van Emmerik) wrote: >Some time ago a have seen an offering of an adapter that makes it >possible to use a standard PC-mous on a black NEXT. >Does anyone know where i can get such a convertor, >or does anyone have a schematic of how to make such >a converter? >Pleace Email to: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net. >P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. >Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo >Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands >-- Info received sofar: From: David Knox <DKNOX@uga.cc.uga.edu> Greetings! I got a mosetail adaptor and a Logitech Mouse for one of my cubes. It seems to work great (except that it is not black!) One source is: ComputerActive, 15 Capella Court, Unit 128, Napean, Ontario, Canada. Voice:(613)225-4824, Fax: (613) 225-1670. For more info send email to : sales@computeractive.on.ca Or you might try DancingBear in Hawaii: www.dancingbear.com. I have dealt with both companies and they are pleasant and effcient. The cost should be about $65 (American) for the adaptor and the mouse. You should buy the mouse also since it is not a normal PC mouse but a "bus" mouse and is usually around $65 by itself. Good luck. ======================================================================= from: Timothy Griswold <tim@dancingbear.COM> www.dancingbear.com Adapter and Logitech Mouse ADPT-001-M $65.00 This will plug in to the back of the NeXT (non-ADB) keyboard and take the place of the NeXT mouse. The Logitech mouse is a top quality 3 button Ergonomic Mouseman bus mouse (platinum color). The adapter itself is a cable about 6" long with the correct connectors to plug into the back of the NeXT keyboard and the Logitech mouse cable. ==================================================================== from: http://peanuts.leo.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.098.html 5.24 What are the NeXT mouse connections? mouse, connector Read the following instruction. Thanks to Alvin Austin (austin@cs.USask.Ca) I have the information I need on the NeXT mouse connections. Pin Function 1 +5v 2 X Encoder Phase A 3 X Encoder Phase B 4 Y Encoder Phase A 5 Y Encoder Phase B 6 Right Button 7 Left Button 8 Ground P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands --
From: ica@fokus.gmd.de (Ingmar Camphausen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun monitor on NeXT Turbo? Date: 12 Aug 1996 12:29:27 GMT Organization: GMD FOKUS, Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4un837$2jb@stern.fokus.gmd.de> References: <4ud3jo$nch@inet-prime.comshare.com> alanf@izzy.net wrote: : Is there a way to use a spare color monitor from a Sparcstation 20 on a NeXT : Turbo ADB? : Thanks, : Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net) Im not sure about the connectors on a SS20 monitor, but you can buy a suitable ready-made cable from SUN, a friend of mine did so. (Some of their stations have the same monitor connector as the Turbo ADBs. - Sorry, I can't help with the part#... :-} ) Ingmar -- camphausen@fokus.gmd.de (PGP key ID 0xA5D85435 on any keyserver near to you) GMD FOKUS Research Institute for Open Communication Systems (Berlin, Germany)
From: ica@fokus.gmd.de (Ingmar Camphausen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: S: mail addres/fax-no. of 'Decision One' Date: 12 Aug 1996 12:32:51 GMT Organization: GMD FOKUS, Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4un89j$2jb@stern.fokus.gmd.de> I am looking for an e-mail address and/or fax number of DecisionOne, the company that took over the Service Department from Bell Atlantic that served the NeXT community with spare and exchange parts. Does anybody have the number or address, for the trans-atlantic calls from Europe are a little bit expensive (and error prone), so I would prefer ordering by fax/mail. (Maybe someone from DecisionOne is reading here, too??) Thanks in advance, Ingmar Camphausen -- camphausen@fokus.gmd.de (PGP key ID 0xA5D85435 on any keyserver near to you) GMD FOKUS Research Institute for Open Communication Systems (Berlin, Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Puzzled, Buy or Not ?, Logon Problem Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960812084848.1112A-100000@charisma> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 08:56:23 -0400 To: Lewis Robinson <FRGP21A@prodigy.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Aug 1996, Lewis Robinson wrote: > Have a chance to buy a used NEXT computer and monitor, model N1000, > circa 1989. Booted machine to test it and dumbly stared at logon > request - user and password. Owner has no idea how to proceed. I > tried several things and of course nothing worked. Is there any > hope for this machine or should it just be scrapped? - Maybe some > one could use the monitor? It should be sent to me at.... just kidding. Actually it isn't as bad as it might seem. When it first begins to boot, hold down both COMMAND keys, and press the ~ key also. THis will dump you into the ROM monitor. Then do a 'bsd-s' at the NeXT prompt. This will attempt a single-user boot. When that finishes, enter: sh /etc/rc at the command line Then use 'nu -m' to modify root's password (I don't think you can use passwd, because it will ask you for the old password before you can change it). It will show you various fields, change the password, confirm it, make the changes, exit the program. Once you are done with that, reboot the computer (it might seem to take awhile to "check disks" but that's OK). When the login screen comes back, enter 'root' as the user, and use the password you just entered. TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: EtherExpress16: Defaulting to 8-bit mode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <960812084648.205AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 13:46:48 GMT I just upgraded my computer and get the following message: Aug 12 07:30:36 darwin mach: EtherExpress16: Unable to perform 16-bit transfers Aug 12 07:30:36 darwin mach: EtherExpress16: Defaulting to 8-bit mode Aug 12 07:30:36 darwin mach: EtherExpress16C at port 300 irq 10 Any ideas what this means and how to fix it? Thanks, -Magnus --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME) +1.312.702-1093 phone (lab) +1.312.667-5331 phone (home) +1.312.702-9740 fax
From: nickle@Glue.umd.edu (Michael D. Nickle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Experience with twinheads from deepspace? Date: 12 Aug 1996 13:05:33 GMT Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <4una6t$dff@mojo.eng.umd.edu> References: <4ujb0q$2rr@ra.cc.wwu.edu> I just bought a color nextstation from them and shannon was very courteous and fair. He seems to have the right attitude... one of working _with_ his customers. I wonder if he's ever thought of going into ..... Geoffrey Matthews (matthews@ripple.cs.wwu.EDU) wrote: : I'm thinking of buying a twinhead notebook from deepspace : technologies. Any good or bad experiences out there? -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Michael D. Nickle || Bob Dole sings, are ya listening? nickle@Glue.umd.edu || Step outside, his head is glistening. www.glue.umd.edu/~nickle || We're happy tonight..walking in a Dole || Wonderland.... -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Pascal Leroy <pleroy@rational.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem: installing SIMM on black slab Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 10:47:25 +0200 Organization: Rational Software Corporation Message-ID: <320EEF9D.41C6@rational.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a NeXTstation Color (non-turbo) with 8 72-pin slots on the motherboard. It used to run fine with four 4-Mb, 80ns SIMMs. It has ROM 2.4 (v65). With memory prices so low, I decided that it was time to increase the memory capacity (I hear that it helps with 4.0). So I went to the nearest PC shop and bought four 4-Mb (1x32), 70ns, non-EDO SIMMs. Unfortunately, when I install these new SIMMs, my machine won't boot: it gets some exception when trying to load the boot block. I have tried many different orderings of the SIMMs, to no avail. The only config in which I was able to use the new SIMMs was with two of them in slots 0 and 1, and the other slots empty. Did I miss something? From the FAQ, NeXTanswers and the discussions in this group, I would expect such a config to work... Any help is appreciated, Pascal _____________________________________________________________________ Pascal Leroy +33.1.30.12.09.68 pleroy@rational.com +33.1.30.12.09.66 FAX
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: QUESTION: Single 72 pin slot on MB Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 14:22:55 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4m3rNz600iVGI5yIIi@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <320D5868.78DE@slip.net> <DvzpwE.p74@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <DvzpwE.p74@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Aug-96 Re: QUESTION: Single 72 pin.. by David Evans@bbcr.uwaterl > It's not really a SIMM socket. It holds a memory expansion board for the > DSP, containing (I think) 192K-words of high-speed memory. I think CCRMA > made one that was larger, up to 512K-words, perhaps? (128K) * 3 = 384 K, I think. The 56001 DSP is (depending on your definitions) a very-long-instruction-word or a parallel-issue design that can do up to three operations simultaneously, and I believe the RAM space it used was divided into three seperate banks. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Nick Potkay <npotkay@integ.micrognosis.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: turning on a next station. (problem solved!!) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 13:36:06 -0400 Organization: CSK Micrognosis Distribution: inet Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960812133343.654K-100000@cycle1> References: <199608012055.QAA02684@voyager2.newbridge> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199608012055.QAA02684@voyager2.newbridge> On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Samir Sharma wrote: > Looks like you might have a bigger problem. The power button on the > keyboard is what will power on the machine. There is no special power-on > sequence for the machine. You might want to verify the connection from verified. > locaiton and that sort of thing from there. Sorry about the lack of detail, > as my NeXT has the same problem as yours. All of a sudden the power key > doesn't turn on the maachine. Well it was the internal battery (BR-2/3A 3V). It was dead, I got a new one at radio shack for $8. (CR123). It works fine now. Thanks to everyone who responsed to me with this suggestion. -Nick
From: ŸŸŸŸŸúlŸŸŸŸŸrubsamen@pro-audio.freinet.de (Marcus Rübsamen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Puzzled, Buy or Not ?, Logon Problem Date: 12 Aug 1996 22:06:24 GMT Organization: pro audio Message-ID: <4uo9t0$as1@pro-audio.freinet.de> References: <4um4pg$1854@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit FRGP21A@prodigy.com (Lewis Robinson) wrote: >Have a chance to buy a used NEXT computer and monitor, model N1000, >circa 1989. Booted machine to test it and dumbly stared at logon >request - user and password. Owner has no idea how to proceed. >I tried several things and of course nothing worked. Is there any hope >forclient/etc/ >this machine or should it just be scrapped? - Maybe some one could use >the monitor? > >I know COMPAQ PC innards and DOS. NEXT is a mystery to me. Any >suggestions on how to bypass the password screen or reset same? > Hi, boot in SingleUserMode. To do this press, when you see "loading from disk", <command> <command> µ simultaniously. You will get into the NeXT Rom monitor. Type "bsd -s". The mashine will boot in a standard unix style without any graphics. Copy now the directory /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo to /etc/netinfo. Do this with: "cp -R /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo /etc/netinfo". After this type "exit". The mashine will start (nearly) like brand new. You will be logged in as "me". From here you can give "me" a password (with Preferences): Logout and log in as root (has no password) and do all your system administreation with UserManager and NetinfoManager and so on. - Marcus
From: "Hasssan N. Kelley" <hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is the motorola platform supported under NS 4.0? Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 19:18:30 -0400 Organization: SSNet -- Public Internet Access in Delaware! Message-ID: <320FBBC6.24DB@blackstar.ssnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does NEXTSTEP 4.0 or Openstep have support for the old blackware? Hassan
From: "Brian K. Smith" <bsmith@rmi.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MegaHertz Drivers Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 18:59:56 -0600 Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <320FD38C.1033@rmi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are there any drivers from 3rd parties for a Megahertz XJEM3288 ethernet/modem cambo PCMCIA card? I plan to install openstep 4.0 onto my notebook. Brian Smith bsmith@rmi.net
From: Tito <talugtu@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: NeXT SCSI Cables and other Connectors Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 18:07:25 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <320FD54D.2DBB@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Question: Did NeXT made SCSI cables and other connectors w/ their logo ? I'm trying to complete my NeXT collection ... thanx tito talugtu@slip.net
From: Tito <talugtu@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: NeXT SCSI Cables Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 18:06:55 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <320FD52F.4593@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Question: Did NeXT made SCSI cables and other connectors w/ their logo ? I'm trying to complete my NeXT collection ... thanx tito talugtu@slip.net
From: billv@Eng.Sun.COM (Bill Vaughan [CONTRACTOR]) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Are there any accelerators for black h/w? Date: 13 Aug 1996 02:02:52 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. Message-ID: <4uonoc$ll2@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> I own a Color NeXT Station (non-turbo). I would like to get a clock doubler or some hardware accelerator to squeeze as much power out of it as possible. Does anybody have any ideas? Thanks in advance, Bill Vaughan billv@sun.com
From: Tito <talugtu@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: Refilling NeXT Color P Cartridges Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 20:51:55 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <320FFBDB.4C06@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Question: Where can i find refilling kits for the NeXT Color Printer Cartridges? or Do they still sell the cartridges? Most refill kits I find are in Distilled Water, the NeXT Color Cartidge is in Isopropanol... Any Help is greatly appreciated! tito talugtu@slip.net
From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI vs. EIDE, and other NS/I hardware questions Date: 6 Aug 1996 15:09:35 GMT Organization: Princeton University Distribution: world Message-ID: <4u7n7f$pcq@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Originator: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU I am a long-time users of black hardware and have been very happy not to think about the intel hardware mess. But now I must get an Intel machine for home. I have looked at the NS/I compatibility guides, but still have one question: If I buy a fully-loaded box but without SCSI support, can I still take advantage of the EIDE peripherals? E.g., do I still need to get a SCSI hard drive? Can I avoid getting a SCSI CD-ROM by connecting the machine to my slab via ethernet and loading NS/I off the slab's CD-ROM? Are there any other reasons to buy or build a machine with all SCSI peripherals (which will be more expensive than going EIDE)? Any other `big picture' advice on picking out a machine for running both Windows 95 and NS/OS? Thanks. Tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Department of Economics Email: tvz@princeton.edu Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the motorola platform supported under NS 4.0? Date: 13 Aug 1996 08:38:59 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4upev3$o4@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <320FBBC6.24DB@blackstar.ssnet.com> In-Reply-To: <320FBBC6.24DB@blackstar.ssnet.com> On 08/13/96, "Hasssan N. Kelley" wrote: >Does NEXTSTEP 4.0 or Openstep have support for the old blackware? > >Hassan > Sure! I already installed it on my black mono station and except for the new OPENSTEP Apps (which are few) it runs as fast or slow as usual. Dirk Schwarzhans
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: NeXT SCSI Cables Date: 13 Aug 1996 12:40:43 GMT Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland Message-ID: <4upt4b$272u@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <320FD52F.4593@slip.net> Tito (talugtu@slip.net) wrote: : Question: Did NeXT made SCSI cables and other connectors w/ their logo ? : I'm trying to complete my NeXT collection ... Yes they did.. and they were pretty expensive, too :-) Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Nick Potkay <npotkay@integ.micrognosis.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 95 & 3.3 Networking problem Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 09:43:22 -0400 Organization: CSK Micrognosis Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960813094151.868H-100000@cycle1> References: <320DDBFD.2112@blackstar.ssnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <320DDBFD.2112@blackstar.ssnet.com> On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Hasssan N. Kelley wrote: > 1. I can ping my NeXTstation TurboColor from both linux and 95. > 2. I can ping my 95/linux box from my NeXTstation TurboColor. > 3. I can only ping my 95/linux from my from my NeXTstation TurboColor > if I use the the IP address. For example this command will > be successful from the NeXTstation TurboColor: > ping 205.216.96.168 > but this is not: > ping blackstar.ssnet.com Sounds like you have a resolving problem. I assume this is a small network at home and you did not configure a dns server. Just edit /etc/hosts on the next station, and add the ip and hostname of your 95 and linux box.
From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Objectbox ??? Date: 13 Aug 1996 13:55:21 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Sender: Bruce Patton (bwp@engin.umich.edu) Message-ID: <4uq1g9$moe@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Has anyone any experience with the Objectbox being sold by the company in Iceland? I had been in contact with them, and requested a price list, but no replies for several months. Did they go out of business ? Their machines looked just like the never released Canon Objectstation 51/52. Thanks, Bruce bwp@engin.umich.edu
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI vs. EIDE, and other NS/I hardware questions Date: 13 Aug 1996 18:36:13 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <4uqhut$6mm@news3.digex.net> References: <4u7n7f$pcq@cnn.Princeton.EDU> tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) wrote: > If I buy a fully-loaded box but without SCSI support, can I still take advantage of the EIDE peripherals? E.g., do I still need to get a SCSI hard drive? Can I avoid getting a SCSI CD-ROM by connecting the machine to my slab via ethernet and loading NS/I off the slab's CD-ROM? Are there any other reasons to buy or build a machine with all SCSI peripherals (which will be more expensive than going EIDE)? > Any other `big picture' advice on picking out a machine for running both Windows 95 and NS/OS? If you can at all afford it, get SCSI. The throughput on EIDE stinks when you have more than one process taxing the drive subsystem. And under NS, especially after getting used to black hardware's excellent dma, you will not appreciate the 'clogged artiery' feel of the system. You can get an adaptec 2940 controller for not too much money, I think I've seen them go for around 150. It's very much worth it, and in addition you will be able to just plug and play with all kinds of other SCSI devices. But you don't NEED scsi, NS will make do with what it has. But you will likely need to get an IDE CD-ROM to perform the installation...but they go for pennies these days :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2940 UW: "cant get configSpace" err ? Date: 13 Aug 1996 18:21:54 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <4uqh42$fh8@tribune.mayo.edu> References: <1996080614171891324@[192.0.2.1]> In article <1996080614171891324@[192.0.2.1]> henq@phsoft.knoware.nl (Henk van Tijen) writes: > Hi there, > > I'm trying to assemble an intel NS3.3 system. Bought an Adaptec 2940 > Ultra Wide scsi controller. Downloaded latest drivers from NeXT: 3.37. > Docs say 3.37 supports Ultra Wide. > > But I always get a "can't get configSpace" error on initial boot at > installation. > > I've tried Intel Zappa, Asus and other mainboards, always the same > result. Also tried all 3.4 quadrillion BIOS settings, to no avail. > > Is my Adaptec too new ? Should I install older software in its ROMs ? > > Any hints welcome ! I had the same problem, even with the latest 2940 driver that claim UW support. NEXT support was befuddled and was escalating to the driver development team. That was several weeks ago and I haven't heard anything back. You may want to consider building the drive with an old 2940 card, then trying the new driver and card once the rest of the system is working -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Is the motorola platform supported under NS 4.0? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dw2xw1.A77@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:07:13 GMT References: <320FBBC6.24DB@blackstar.ssnet.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <320FBBC6.24DB@blackstar.ssnet.com>, Hasssan N. Kelley <hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com> wrote: >Does NEXTSTEP 4.0 or Openstep have support for the old blackware? > Yes. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: mike@starburst.cbl.cees.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Support for GD7543 SVGA controller on laptops in NS4.0/Intel? Date: 13 Aug 1996 23:59:34 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, Chesapeake Biological Lab. Message-ID: <4ur4t6$f5p@gamera.cbl.cees.edu> Keywords: SVGA,GD7543,laptop,NS/Intel, 4.0 I was hoping, actually kinda assuming, that NeXT would have support for a bunch more video controllers in NSFIP 4.0... especially for laptops. Many laptops now use the GD7543 video chip and checking the compatability list, it ain't there... Anyone know if this might be supported in the future, third party support, etc...? Thanks. -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Mike F. Santangelo, Dept. Head-Computer & Network Systems, UMCEES/CBL Solomons
From: mike@starburst.cbl.cees.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: ATAPI IDE CDROM in NS4.0 installation, anything better than EIDE v3.34? Date: 14 Aug 1996 00:04:06 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, Chesapeake Biological Lab. Message-ID: <4ur55m$f5t@gamera.cbl.cees.edu> Keywords: EIDE,ATAPI,CDROM Having just received NS 4.0/Intel and eager to install on my P5-120 laptop... was kind of disappointed to see that NS4.0 could not find the built in IDE ATAPI CDROM... ugh.. it found the 2.1GB IDE disk and its correct geometry, but upon trying to find the slave ATAPI CDROM, no dice. Only reference I can find to this at www.next.com is something about inserting "ATAPI device" = "slave" in some table somewhere, can this be done on the device driver floppies? Is there talk of a more "4.0" version of the EIDE/ATAPI driver? Any help appreciated, thanks. -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Mike F. Santangelo, Dept. Head-Computer & Network Systems, UMCEES/CBL Solomons
From: levenez@club-internet.fr (Eric Lévénez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the motorola platform supported under NS 4.0? Date: 13 Aug 1996 21:02:46 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <4uqqhm$omj@speedy.grolier.fr> References: <320FBBC6.24DB@blackstar.ssnet.com> <4upev3$o4@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans) wrote: > On 08/13/96, "Hasssan N. Kelley" wrote: > >Does NEXTSTEP 4.0 or Openstep have support for the old blackware? > > > >Hassan > > > Sure! > > I already installed it on my black mono station and except for the new > OPENSTEP Apps (which are few) it runs as fast or slow as usual. > > Dirk Schwarzhans > But I have read that we need 64 MB of ram, and my NeXTstation has actually 32 MB and it is the maximum. So, must we update to 4.0 ? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Lévénez : levenez@club-internet.fr The best way to accelerate Windows is at -9.81 m/s2 --------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Q: NeXT SCSI Cables and other Connectors Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dw31y9.4rI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 15:34:57 GMT References: <320FD54D.2DBB@slip.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <320FD54D.2DBB@slip.net>, Tito <talugtu@slip.net> wrote: >Question: Did NeXT made SCSI cables and other connectors w/ their logo ? >I'm trying to complete my NeXT collection ... > I think there were SCSI cables, although I've never seen one. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Tito <talugtu@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fading: NeXT Monitor N4000A Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 19:46:43 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <32113E13.AD1@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I exhausted all the adjustment for brightness on my NeXT monitor... do i need to replace the power supply inside or the power transformer of the picture tube? Thanx for any info... tito talugtu@slip.net
From: billv@Eng.Sun.COM (Bill Vaughan [CONTRACTOR]) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Modem scripts for NeXT Stations? Date: 14 Aug 1996 02:51:46 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. Message-ID: <4urf02$hs1@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> I've downloaded 2 public domain PPP packages for my NeXT Color Station, and I can't seem to figure out how to get everything to work together between the dynamically loadable PPP kernal modules, the modem scripts, and possibly the modem. I'm pretty sure the problem is with the modem scripts. I haven't found any sufficient example modem scripts to use. I am using a Supra Express 288 modem (Mac serial cable) with hardware handshaking, NS/OS 3.2. Any hints welcome. Thanks in advance! -Bill billv@eng.sun.com
From: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de (Ingo Feulner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Best HW for fast compiles Date: 13 Aug 1996 10:48:11 GMT Organization: Home, sweet home in Boeblingen, Germany Message-ID: <slrn510nbb.1p2.ifeulner@xenon.stgt.sub.org> References: <4uljs8$av3@news.onramp.net> On 11 Aug 1996 21:38:16 GMT, Steve Dekorte <dekorte@suite.com> wrote: > >Since OpenStep is out for NT and (in beta) Solaris, >let's change the test to compiling Draw.app, which has been ported. > >Test results are welcome! Here are mine. My actual configuration is: Asus mainboard P/IXP6NP (Natoma chipset) 200MHz Pentium Pro (256kB L2 Cache) 64MB EDO RAM Wide SCSI Controller DPT2144W with 2GB IBM DORS UW disk. (no cache) NS3.3 I have run the following Tests: 1) compile Draw.app for one arch (Intel), no options 2) compile Draw.app for three archs (Intel, Motorola, Sparc), no options 3) compile Draw.app for one arch (Intel), -pipe 4) compile Draw.app for three archs (Intel, Mot, Sparc), -pipe 5) time make install SRCROOT=/tmp/src DSTROOT=/tmp/dst OBJROOT=/tmp/obj SYMROOT=/tmp/sym The resulting times are: 1) 1.09 (mins.secs) 2) 4.15 3) 1.00 4) 3.56 5) 1.12 I have run test 3 and 4 on an original NeXTstation (68040 at 25Mhz) with 20MB of RAM and an IBM 0664 2GB harddisk, too. The results are: 3) 10.44 4) 46.33 I'm very interesting in tests on other machines. -- Smail: Ingo Feulner, Wolfacher Weg 19, 71034 Boeblingen, Germany Email: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de "You do not understand." - Kosh, Babylon 5, various episodes.
From: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de (Ingo Feulner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Best HW for fast compiles Date: 13 Aug 1996 10:53:43 GMT Organization: Home, sweet home in Boeblingen, Germany Message-ID: <slrn510nln.1p2.ifeulner@xenon.stgt.sub.org> References: <4uljs8$av3@news.onramp.net> On 11 Aug 1996 21:38:16 GMT, Steve Dekorte <dekorte@suite.com> wrote: >0:43 0:43 ASUS P55TP4N, 256KPB P6/166 64 60nsRAM, A2940, > SG 32430 2G & Maxtor 1240S >1G as /tmp On my machine (Asus P/I XP6NP5, Pentium Pro 200Mhz (256KB L2), 64MB RAM, DPT2144W with IBM DORS UW disk, NS3.3) this test runs 29.708 seconds. - Ingo. -- Smail: Ingo Feulner, Wolfacher Weg 19, 71034 Boeblingen, Germany Email: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de "You do not understand." - Kosh, Babylon 5, various episodes.
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: Refilling NeXT Color P Cartridges Date: 14 Aug 1996 00:30:03 -0700 Organization: The Turbocolor On My Desk Message-ID: <4urv9r$jfe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <320FFBDB.4C06@slip.net> Tito <talugtu@slip.net> wrote: >Question: Where can i find refilling kits for the NeXT Color Printer >Cartridges? or Do they still sell the cartridges? > >Most refill kits I find are in Distilled Water, the NeXT Color Cartidge >is in Isopropanol... Any Help is greatly appreciated! > Any refill kit for the Canon 800/820 color printer should do nicely. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: jumpers for Maxtor 350Mb? Date: 14 Aug 1996 08:25:52 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <slrn5132ne.258.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> The Maxtor 350Mb drive in a cube I'm working into decent condition seems to be set to id 0, and I'd like to boot the cube off of an external HD and then install 3.2 off of the external drive. There are two problems; first, the cube returns lots of SCSI bus parity errors on boot and hangs... the external drive is terminated and works just fine with my slab (25MHz color) and the internal Seagate I've got at home. Could it be that the Maxtor isn't properly terminated? If so, then I'd appreacite pointers to jumpers that need to be set to get the drive to autoterminate properly. Thanks in advance. PS Adjusting brightness via the cutoff pot in back of the monitor worked well. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Paul Brown Grad student, UCB mathematics (510)-843-7817 pbrown@math.berkeley.edu http://math.berkeley.edu/~pbrown/ NeXTmail preferred. _____________________________________________________________________
From: Carsten Isert <isert@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Upgrade Problem 16MB->32MB Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:20:22 +0200 Organization: Munich University of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <3211C486.6E75@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I upgraded from 16MB to 32MB RAM on a Asus P55TP4XE. Dos, Windows Linux run but NS3.3 doesn't. The first 16MB are 8MB modules with 70ns and parity and the second ones are 8MB modules with 60ns and no parity. I tried every configuration in the bios but nothing worked. Changing the banks doesn't help, too. The system boots until it switches to the graphics mode and displays only stripes. Is there a possibility to get NS running with this RAM configuration? Please help. bcnu Carsten -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- | Carsten Isert http://www.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/~isert/ | | | ------------------- Life's soon. D. Coupland -------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Modem scripts for NeXT Stations? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960814070828.2304A-100000@charisma> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 07:21:14 -0400 References: <4urf02$hs1@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> To: "Bill Vaughan [CONTRACTOR]" <billv@Eng.Sun.COM> In-Reply-To: <4urf02$hs1@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 14 Aug 1996, Bill Vaughan [CONTRACTOR] wrote: > I've downloaded 2 public domain PPP packages for my NeXT Color > Station, and I can't seem to figure out how to get everything to > work together between the dynamically loadable PPP kernal modules, > the modem scripts, and possibly the modem. I'm pretty sure the > problem is with the modem scripts. I haven't found any sufficient > example modem scripts to use. I am using a Supra Express 288 modem > (Mac serial cable) with hardware handshaking, NS/OS 3.2. Any hints > welcome. Ok, well, assuming that you have the PPP from http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ properly installed (and have rebooted your machine at least once since installation), here is what I would suggest you try: edit your .kermrc file to look something like this: define ppp - !pppd < \v(line) > \v(line) defaultroute SET MODEM hayes set flow-control none SET LINE /dev/cufa # Note: it might be /dev/cufb depending on which port # you have used to plug the modem in set speed 38400 SET DIAL HANGUP ON SET DIAL DISPLAY ON SET DIAL TIMEOUT 10000 SET MODEM-DIALER hayes set prompt {KERMIT at \v(host)> } dial t5551212 connect [replace 5551212 with your ISP's phone #] (If you don't already have it, get kermit from: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/comm/kermit-5A-190.NIHS.tar.gz) start kermit, which should call your ISP. When it 'connects' you should be able to see something like "Login: " or "login:" or "login:" or "Login:" or "Username:" or "UserName: " or "Username: " etc. Take note of what it is, including whether or not there is a space after the colon, etc. Enter your username and then do the same for each prompt you get (take careful note of what it is, and any spaces, etc, then enter the proper information). If you can manually start PPP on the remote end, you will probably see some lines of what looks like garbage. press control and ']' and then 'c' (which will put you back at your kermit prompt) and then type 'do ppp' in kermit, which should start your PPP on the local end. That should get you started, then use the information on the prompts to write a proper chat script. TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next
From: rakesh@arp.com (Rakesh Dubey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ATAPI IDE CDROM in NS4.0 installation, anything better than EIDE v3.34? Date: 14 Aug 1996 12:05:45 -0700 Organization: GRANITE Systems, Inc. Sender: rakesh@fountainhead.granite.com Message-ID: <wurap9vl9y.fsf@fountainhead.granite.com> References: <4ur55m$f5t@gamera.cbl.cees.edu> In-reply-to: mike@starburst.cbl.cees.edu's message of 14 Aug 1996 00:04:06 GMT In article <4ur55m$f5t@gamera.cbl.cees.edu> mike@starburst.cbl.cees.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes: > > Having just received NS 4.0/Intel and eager to install on my P5-120 > laptop... was kind of disappointed to see that NS4.0 could not find > the built in IDE ATAPI CDROM... ugh.. it found the 2.1GB IDE disk and its > correct geometry, but upon trying to find the slave ATAPI CDROM, no dice. > Only reference I can find to this at www.next.com is something about > inserting "ATAPI device" = "slave" in some table somewhere, can this > be done on the device driver floppies? Is there talk of a more "4.0" > version of the EIDE/ATAPI driver? > > Any help appreciated, thanks. Please provide more information. Is your CD-ROM connected as a slave on the primary controller (like the NextAnswer says)? What are the error messages? You can force detection by using the "ATAPI Device" = "Slave" (or "Master") flag. Make a copy of the driver floppy and do changes there. -rakesh
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the motorola platform supported under NS 4.0? Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 18:57:35 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <4ut7n2$kn0@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <320FBBC6.24DB@blackstar.ssnet.com> <4upev3$o4@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <4uqqhm$omj@speedy.grolier.fr> levenez@club-internet.fr (Eric Lévénez) wrote: >dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans) wrote: >> On 08/13/96, "Hasssan N. Kelley" wrote: >> >Does NEXTSTEP 4.0 or Openstep have support for the old blackware? >> > >> >Hassan >> > >> Sure! >But I have read that we need 64 MB of ram, and my NeXTstation has >actually 32 MB and it is the maximum. So, must we update to 4.0 ? Well, you don't NEED 64 Mb of ram. It's nice, but hardly manditory. The machine I do most of my work on in the office is a Turbo NeXTdimension Cube with 24 Mb on the CPU board (16 on the ND board). It's running OPENSTEP for Mach 4.0 (plus stuff under development). I can live with it :-) Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: alex@starside.rhein-main.de (Alexander F.E. Seggerman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI BUS Date: 14 Aug 1996 20:09:21 GMT Organization: Individual Network - Rhein-Main Message-ID: <4utbph$gr4@odb.rhein-main.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Boys and Girls I just installed a Yamaha CDR-102 (everything correct Termination, ID etc...) and everything works well on the W95 and W-NT side. But not on the Openstep side. Here is a extract of my boot process: -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: DriverKit version 330 -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Adaptec 2940 Host Adapter found at Bus 0 Device 8 -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: a2940_0: 8 Targets per Bus -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Resetting SCSI Bus... -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Registering: a2940_0 at 0x6000 -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Registering: sc0 at a2940_0 SCSI Bus 0 Target 7 -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd0: IBM DORS-32160 S82C -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Registering: sd0 at Target 0 LUN 0 at sc0 -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Registering: sd0a -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Registering: sd0b -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd0: Device Capacity: 2063 MB -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd0: Disk Label: Disk -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd1: YAMAHA CDR102 1.01 -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Registering: sd1 at Target 2 LUN 0 at sc0 -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Registering: sd1a -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd1: No Valid Disk Label -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd1: Device Block Size: 2048 bytes -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd1: Device Capacity: 394 MB -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd2: PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-6XCS 1.02 -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Registering: sd2 at Target 4 LUN 0 at sc0 -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Registering: sd2a -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd2: No Valid Disk Label -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd2: Device Block Size: 2048 bytes -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd2: Device Capacity: 65 MB -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd3: QUANTUM PD210S 508D -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd3: Illegal request; FATAL. -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: target:6 lun:0 op:Mode Sense -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Registering: sd3 at Target 6 LUN 0 at sc0 -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: Registering: sd3a -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd3: Illegal request; FATAL. -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: target:6 lun:0 op:Mode Sense -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd3: No Valid Disk Label -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd3: Device Block Size: 512 bytes -> Jul 27 15:30:46 starside mach: sd3: Device Capacity: 199 MB up to now everything is fine. But later on in the boot process I get the following errors: -!! Jul 27 15:41:35 starside mach: Adaptec2940 timeout -!! Jul 27 15:41:35 starside mach: a2940_0: Resetting SCSI Bus 0 (I/O Timeout)... -!! Jul 27 15:41:35 starside mach: sd0: Bus Reset Detected; Retrying. -!! Jul 27 15:41:35 starside mach: target:0 lun:0 op:Write block:1240624 blockCount:16 -!! Jul 27 15:41:35 starside mach: sd0: Bus Reset Detected; Retrying. -!! Jul 27 15:41:35 starside mach: target:0 lun:0 op:Write block:1765280 blockCount:16 -!! Jul 27 15:41:46 starside mach: sd0: UNIT ATTENTION; Retrying. -!! Jul 27 15:41:46 starside mach: target:0 lun:0 op:Write block:1240624 blockCount:16 My system then just halts (because of a constant resetting) and I can either switchit off or try an halt the system. Since everything works out on the W95 system nothing should be wrong with the Yamaha Drive but for any hints I'd be very grateful. alex -- ____________________________________________________________________ Alexander Seggerman Non Electronic: Electronic: Berger Straße 157 mailto: alex@starside.rhein-main.de D-60385 Frankfurt (NeXTMail & Mime & ASCII) Germany http://www.rhein-main.de/~pstarsid/ Phone: ++49 (69) 468104 FAX: Sorry no FAX
From: root@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (root) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Compaq 32-bit SCSI adapter Date: 14 Aug 1996 22:46:24 GMT Organization: I need to put my ORGANIZATION here. Message-ID: <4utl00$7o3@svc.slc.uen.org>
From: lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu (Peter S. Lakanen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info On RAM Options For Cube? Date: 13 Aug 1996 17:35:23 GMT Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <4uqecr$11m@news.fsu.edu> Will someone please e-mail me a list of references so I can do some research on what my options are for increasing the RAM in my 040 cube? Thanks in advance. -- ======================================================================== Peter Lakanen | Electronic/Computer Music Instructor....Club DJ.. lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu | ....Remixer....Computer Geek....Lover Of Dogs.... (904) 681-6635 | COME VISIT ME: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~lakanen ========================================================================
From: stefanos@Vir.com (Stefanos Kiakas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Building a Quantum XP34301 4.3G HD (Need help) Date: 14 Aug 1996 19:58:31 -0400 Organization: Communications Vir, Internet Access Montreal. Message-ID: <4utp77$ds7@Vir.com> Hello all, I'm tyring to build Quantum XP34301 4.3G hard disk. I have NS 3.3 Intel Pentium 100Mhz, BusLogic BT-946C SCSI contorller. Unfortunatelly the BuildDisk.app thinks it's a 10MB hard disk and does not build it properly. How do I build this disk under NeXTSTEP? Any help would be appreciated, stef -- Stefanos Kiakas Travel guide for Montreal, QC, e-Scape Information Systems Inc. Canada --> http://www.uniscape.com stefanos@uniscape.com (NeXTMail OK) NeXTStep Driver Information URL +1 (514) 729 9643 http://www.uniscape.com/NSDrivers
From: lutzray@9bit.qc.ca (Raymond Lutz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: QUIX Daydream & SUN JDK for MacOS ? Date: 15 Aug 1996 01:41:45 GMT Organization: SPC Message-ID: <4utv8p$mjf@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> Bonjour tout le monde, Anyone knows if Black Hardware + Daydream can run the Java Dev Kit? SUN recommends System 7.5.3 (revision 2)... Does Daydream only works with 7.1 ? (the minimal version shipped with). I've written to Optimal without any response yet. Thanks, RL http://java.sun.com:80/products/JDK/CurrentRelease/installation-macos- mac.html http://www.optimal-object.com/Products/DayDream.htmld/index.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Joseph McWilliams <mcwilljg@euler.sfasu.edu> Subject: Please explain error message Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960814224021.844A-100000@euler> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 22:41:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII this line appears quite frequently in /usr/adm/messages: "Aug 14 22:34:49 euler mach: ttyscc1: receive error 2 (-900)" Can someone translate for me? Thanks Joe McWilliams
From: rencsok@channelu.com (Randall J. Rencsok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modem scripts for NeXT Stations? Date: 15 Aug 1996 04:30:19 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <4uu94r$176g@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <4urf02$hs1@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Cc: billv@Eng.Sun.COM In <4urf02$hs1@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Bill Vaughan [CONTRACTOR] wrote: > I've downloaded 2 public domain PPP packages for my NeXT Color Station, and I can't seem to >figure out how to get everything to work together between the dynamically loadable PPP kernal >modules, the modem scripts, and possibly the modem. I'm pretty sure the problem is with the >modem scripts. I haven't found any sufficient example modem scripts to use. I am using a Supra >Express 288 modem (Mac serial cable) with hardware handshaking, NS/OS 3.2. Any hints. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Unless you have a NeXT Color Turbo ADB I think you need to modify that cable before you'll be able to get any scripts working. Personally I've never had a Turbo ADB to play with so I don't actually know if the serial ports are also ADB. Consult the man pages on zs online or in the User Manual for what the pin outs are. Randy
From: rencsok@channelu.com (Randall J. Rencsok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 4.0 and full duplex sound Date: 15 Aug 1996 04:40:15 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <4uu9nf$176g@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <4ub07k$187@news3.digex.net> <wu3f1yoj6i.fsf@fountainhead.granite.com> <4uen8q$d7@pro-audio.freinet.de> Cc: ŸŸŸŸŸúlŸŸŸŸŸrubsamen@pro-audio.freinet.de In <4uen8q$d7@pro-audio.freinet.de> Marcus Rübsamen wrote: > Hi, > > is there a software that allows to record and playback sounds at the same > time on black hardware? I have already Digital Ears. > I know that SoundWorks 3.0 allows you to monitor the sound you are recording while it's being recorded (at least with Digital Ears on Black hardware w/ NS3.2). There is a noticable delay, but it works fine for me. Randy rencsok@channelu.com
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: QUIX Daydream & SUN JDK for MacOS ? Date: 14 Aug 1996 23:27:05 -0700 Organization: The Turbocolor On My Desk Message-ID: <4uufvp$rui@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4utv8p$mjf@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> lutzray@9bit.qc.ca (Raymond Lutz) wrote: >Bonjour tout le monde, > >Anyone knows if Black Hardware + Daydream can run the Java Dev Kit? >SUN recommends System 7.5.3 (revision 2)... Does Daydream only >works with 7.1 ? (the minimal version shipped with). I've written >to Optimal without any response yet. > I run 7.5.0 patched to 7.5.1 patched to 7.5.3 on my daydream. It runs just fine. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199608150606.CAA24553@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 02:06:11 -0400 Subject: NeXT LP (BW): streak in middle of page Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com I've got a 1" black streak (not very dark, but clerly visible) coming down the middle/right of each page I print. Suggestions on removing it? Has anyone used those LaserPrinter cleaner sheets with a NeXT LP (black and white)? Suggestions, recommendations, warnings, appreciated :-) Please email me or cc me on your post, as my usenet feed has been flaky lately. Thanks TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: NeXT SCSI Cables and other Connectors Date: 15 Aug 1996 05:29:44 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <4uuck8$fhs@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <Dw31y9.4rI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > Tito <talugtu@slip.net> wrote: > > Question: Did NeXT made SCSI cables and other connectors w/ > > their logo ? I'm trying to complete my NeXT collection ... > > I think there were SCSI cables, although I've never seen one. Yes, there were. Here at RPI we still have a few of them. Anyone want one? How much do you think they are worth? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: niyer@ornews.intel.com (Narayanan Iyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI HD on Intel Date: 14 Aug 1996 16:56:26 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation Message-ID: <4ut0fq$et5@ornews.intel.com> Hello: I am trying to use a 1GB external SCSI as my only hard disk on a Intel Platform with the Adaptec 6X60 driver on NS3.2. However, I get the error "something like" " bogus fdisk: non-sequential devices not supported" Any suggestions!!! niyer@pcocd2.intel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (M. Roehr) Subject: S: Adapter-cable for multisync-monitor for Color-Staion Message-ID: <Dw6MnM.G8@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:54:58 GMT Hey I m searching for my Color-Station-Turbo a cable for multisync monitors, such one with three BNC on the one side and the other a female 13W3. Or perhaps an address where to buy such one. thanks Manfred -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de PHONE/FAX: +49 431 73 45 39 NeXT-mail welcome NeXT Club Schwerte - next-club-schwerte@vergil.ping.de
From: Sean Sun <sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Modems for NeXT turbo color? Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 10:21:12 -0700 Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <32135C88.41C6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. Before I spend a few hundred dollars, will any generic pc/mac modems work with a NeXT turbo color? I know you have to get a special cable. But besides that, everything else should work out of the box, right? Specifically, any experiences with USR sporster 288? Thanks for any help. Sean.
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: The > 2GB problem Date: 15 Aug 1996 22:55:53 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <4v09tp$tsm@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> I'm trying to partition and format a 4GB Seagate Barracuda for use on a Pentium machine running NS 3.3. BuildDisk is hopelessly confused by this size of disk. I tried the method suggested in NXAnswers 1533, but my machine panic'ed during the sdformat run. On John Kheit's advice I tried using fdisk to partition the disk manually. I made a 2000 MB NeXTSTEP partition and made the rest an Extended DOS partition (only one NS partition is allowed). Although that seemed to work OK as far as fdisk is concerned, an attempt at installing NS 3.3 on the first parition gave me a message about "Bogus disk information" and the need to "ensure that my SCSI card BIOS is enabled". If anyone can tell me a surefire way to get around the 2GB barrier in a NS 3.3 install, I'd be very grateful! -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: can't reasb on a MICROP 1991-27SC21020AV drive Date: 16 Aug 1996 02:16:22 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <4v0llm$hq8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Keywords: hard disk bad blocks Hi all! Any help will be appreciated. One of our disks has developed a problem I don't seem to able to solve. It is a Micropolis 9Gig drive. It does not fsck due to unreadable blocks, here's what I get from fsck: cmn3:/ # fsck /dev/rsd0e ** /dev/rsd0e ** Last Mounted on //.snd-d ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames CANNOT READ: BLK 1810048 CONTINUE? y THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 1810048, 1810049, ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 2186 files, 1781691 used, 299940 free (492 frags, 37431 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) File system not may not be clean! Run fsck again to clean. At the same time I get this on the console: Aug 15 18:56:19 cmn3 mach: Target 1: MEDIA ERROR; block 1062a50H retry 1 .. Aug 15 18:56:24 cmn3 mach: Target 1: MEDIA ERROR; block 1062a50H retry 9 Aug 15 18:56:24 cmn3 mach: sd0 (1,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x11 Aug 15 18:56:24 cmn3 mach: SCSI Block in error = 17181264; Partition e F.S. sector 1810048 When I try to reassign the bad block this is what I get: cmn3:/ # reasb /dev/rsd0e 17181264 -r ..Trying to recover block 17181264(d) ..block 17181264(d) recovered after 1 attempts ..Reassigning block 17181264(d) sr_io_status = 0x2 sense key = 03H sense code = 11H SCSI status = 02H And at the same time I get this on the console: Target 1: MEDIA ERROR; block 1062a51H retry 1 .. Target 1: MEDIA ERROR; block 1062a51H retry 9 sd0 (1,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x11 SCSI Block in error = 17181265; Partition e F.S. sector 1810048 which is the next block... of course if I try to reasb 17181265 I get problems in 17181264, the previous block and so on ad infinitum. The most I can think of is that the disk does not have more spare blocks in that zone... Any ideas? -- Fernando nando@ccrma.stanford.edu
From: Steve Haynes <shaynes@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need replacement mouse for black NEXT! Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 23:31:55 -0400 Organization: EQB Industries Message-ID: <3213EBAB.30CD@ibm.net> References: <4ua6hk$450@news.NL.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit P.J.L.van Emmerik wrote: > > Some time ago a have seen an offering of an adapter that makes it > possible to use a standard PC-mous on a black NEXT. > > Does anyone know where i can get such a convertor, > or does anyone have a schematic of how to make such > a converter? > > Pleace Email to: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net. > > P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. > Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo > Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands > -- Hello, Dancing Bear enterprises www.dancingbear.com has them as far as I know Good luck steve.
From: tshores@unlinfo.unl.edu (thomas shores) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstep possible on Dell XPS P166S? Date: 16 Aug 1996 03:34:32 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <4v0q88$9mm@crcnis3.unl.edu> Keywords: Dell, nextstep Help! I'm trying to install Nextstep 3.3 on a Dell XPS P166S with 32 MB RAM, #9 Motion 771 video card and EIDE. It's been a frustrating experience. First, I had to get a slower IDE CD ROM, because the EIDE driver doesn't support the 8X CD ROM that came with the system. Next I get the installation to finish ... almost. When you get to the point where you are asked to Configure drivers, no matter what I choose (even the Default choices, nothing fancy), upon Saving my choices the screen blanks out and that's the end of it! The next time I boot to Next, rather than getting to the "choice of languages" window, the boot process aborts immediately after the "Loading Nextstep" message with a message "Can't find $LBL". I might add this system has a 2.5 Gb EIDE drive which was partitioned into a 1Gb windoze 95 partition and the rest Nextstep. The 95 partition works fine. I might also add that I had originally set up the Next partition on a separate system that had a SCSI CDROM, then moved it back to the Dell box. It seemed that every time a shutdown was attempted on the Dell, the system would lock up after a screen change and need fsck cleaning on the next boot up. So my first question is, has anyone *ever* installed Nexstep on one of these Dell XPS's? If so, I would be grateful for any tips or suggestions you might have. Or if you have any idea what might cause this bizarre behavior, I would appreciate you comments. Thanks, Tom Shores
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modems for NeXT turbo color? Date: 15 Aug 1996 22:09:09 -0700 Organization: The Turbocolor On My Desk Message-ID: <4v0vpl$5tm@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <32135C88.41C6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> Sean Sun <sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> wrote: >Hello. > >Before I spend a few hundred dollars, will any generic pc/mac modems >work with a NeXT turbo color? I know you have to get a special cable. >But besides that, everything else should work out of the box, right? >Specifically, any experiences with USR sporster 288? > My USR works fine, with a couple of notes: 1. Forget about FAX support. If it's that important, see what NXFax supports. 2. Watch the serial port speed, 57600 is supposedly tops for a turbo, but PPP panics too much if I go that fast. This applied to all modems. 3. I did have to build a special cable. I have a USR 28.8 Sportster v.fast, upgraded to v.34. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI HD on Intel Date: 15 Aug 1996 19:26:31 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4uvtl7$s1@turbocat.turbocat.de> References: <4ut0fq$et5@ornews.intel.com> niyer@ornews.intel.com (Narayanan Iyer) wrote: (...) > I am trying to use a 1GB external SCSI as my only hard disk on > a Intel Platform with the Adaptec 6X60 driver on NS3.2. However, > I get the error > > "something like" > > " bogus fdisk: non-sequential devices not supported" > > Any suggestions!!! Get NS 3.3 or later. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Please explain error message Date: 16 Aug 1996 07:19:59 -0400 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <4v1lgv$fdb@papoose.quick.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960814224021.844A-100000@euler> In article <Pine.NXT.3.95.960814224021.844A-100000@euler>, Joseph McWilliams <mcwilljg@euler.sfasu.edu> wrote: > >this line appears quite frequently in /usr/adm/messages: > >"Aug 14 22:34:49 euler mach: ttyscc1: receive error 2 (-900)" > >Can someone translate for me? Thanks You are using a buggy serial port driver. This can crash your system in a big way. What to do about it: If you are still running 3.1 you can use the Mux driver available at ftp-next.peak.org. For 3.2 or above use the combination of ISASerialPort and PortServer drivers available from NeXTAnswers. (Also SeralPointingDevice driver if you use a serial mouse) -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
From: woo@woonext.cmo.ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Using tip with a modem Date: 16 Aug 1996 14:17:30 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <4v1vtq$bv4@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> I've been trying to test out a modem on my NeXTCube using tip. If I try tip dial1200 ####### I get cannot synchronize with hayes. If I try tip tip0 ######## I get connected, but nothing happens the modem is connect to the TOP serial port (that is A right?). Suggestions?y -- - - - - - - - - - J. W. Wooten
From: gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu (Brian Keeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: JAZ formatting Date: 16 Aug 1996 16:11:54 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <4v26ka$cs1@news1.ucsd.edu> OK, I've looked through the FAQ's, and the relevant Radical Solutions page is still "under construction". So, anybody tried to hook a JAZ drive to their NeXT? I have a black station running NS3.3. I can recognize the drive, read the JAZtools cartridge, and format a new cartridge using Mac format. Trying to use such a Mac formatted cartridge generated a system panic, however. Not good. Attempts to format a cartridge using NeXT formatting results in: disk name: iomega jaz 1GB disk type: removable_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/boot creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1045365 6534 2 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: insufficient space in super block for rotational layout tables with nsect 6534 and ntrak 2. File system performance may be impaired. cylinder group too large (16 cylinders); max: 4 cylinders per group /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) Any ideas? I will summarize back to this group. Thanks, Brian -------------------------------------------------------------------- Philosophy, UCSD --- http://mugwump.ucsd.edu/bkeeley/index.html finger gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu for PGP public key -- NeXTmail accepted
From: jwiggins@niflheim.rutgers.edu (John Wiggins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What is that PGA socket on my '030 Cube MotherBoard? Date: 16 Aug 1996 12:08:11 -0400 Organization: Rutgers University Message-ID: <4v26db$o8l@niflheim.rutgers.edu> Does anyone know what the empty PGA socket in the corner of an '030 cube motherboard is for? Is there a Cube hardware technical reference? - john wiggins@ahab.rutgers.edu
From: finton@cs.wisc.edu (David J. Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can a TurboColor NeXTstation take 128 MB of RAM? Date: 16 Aug 1996 17:45:40 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <4v2c44$10c4@news.doit.wisc.edu> I'm adding RAM. I just wanted confirmation as to whether a non-ADB TurboColor NeXTstation can take 128 MB of RAM. I believe this is the case, if it's in the form of 4 32-MB sticks, at 70 ns. Yes? Could anyone who's done this comment on their experience with 128 MB in a slab? Thanks, David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is that PGA socket on my '030 Cube MotherBoard? Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 23:32:12 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <4v30i7$ooo@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <4v26db$o8l@niflheim.rutgers.edu> jwiggins@niflheim.rutgers.edu (John Wiggins) wrote: >Does anyone know what the empty PGA socket in the corner of >an '030 cube motherboard is for? That's the socket for the NeXTBus interface chip, or NBIC. You only need an NBIC chip installed if you plan on using your 68030 board with another NeXTBus peripheral, such as a NeXTdimension or Arial QuintProcessor board. >Is there a Cube hardware technical reference? No, not really. Cabling, modem configuration info, system test error codes, and information on using the ROM monitor is in the 'NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration' manual. Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Modems for NeXT turbo color? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dw8H4n.Gqv@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:50:46 GMT References: <32135C88.41C6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32135C88.41C6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu>, Sean Sun <sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> wrote: >Hello. > >Before I spend a few hundred dollars, will any generic pc/mac modems >work with a NeXT turbo color? I know you have to get a special cable. >But besides that, everything else should work out of the box, right? >Specifically, any experiences with USR sporster 288? > I have a USR Sportster 28.8 on mine--works fine for PPP and Kermit. Faxing doesn't work, even with NXFax apparently, but I don't care about that. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: ŸŸŸŸŸúpŸŸŸŸŸcdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modem scripts for NeXT Stations? Date: 17 Aug 1996 01:29:35 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <4v379v$rvp@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <4urf02$hs1@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <4uu94r$176g@msunews.cl.msu.edu> rencsok@channelu.com (Randall J. Rencsok) wrote: >In <4urf02$hs1@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Bill Vaughan [CONTRACTOR] wrote: >> I am using a Supra >>Express 288 modem (Mac serial cable) with hardware handshaking, NS/OS 3.2. > >Unless you have a NeXT Color Turbo ADB I think you need to modify that cable >before you'll be able to get any scripts working. Personally I've never had >a Turbo >ADB to play with so I don't actually know if the serial ports are also ADB. Please -- ADB is the Apple Desktop Bus -- it is used for things like a keyboard and mouse. Not for communications ports. >Consult the man pages on zs online or in the User Manual for what the pin >outs are. Good idea. Don't expect a Mac modem cable to work on a NeXT with hardware handshake. Observant people see that the Mac, the NeXT, the Sun SparcStation, and probably other workstations all use 8-pin mini-DIN connectors on their serial ports. Immediately they jump to the conclusion that the "Mac-to-Modem" cable that fits in the hole will work on all these other machines. It won't. If all you want is DB-25 pins 2,3,7 (TxD, RxD, Ground) then the same cable works on Mac, NeXT, Sparc. As soon as any of the hardware handshake lines are connected, you will find as many different pinouts as there are computer manufacturers. carl --- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: FRGP21A@prodigy.com (Lewis Robinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Puzzled, Buy or Not ?, Logon Problem Date: 17 Aug 1996 02:02:34 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Distribution: world Message-ID: <4v397q$1se4@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4um4pg$1854@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> OK! Thanks to all responders, booted machine and reset password. Liked it and bought it. New question - Can I open the box (it is a cube) and add cards - for example a modem? Or is this a big No-No, like for Macs? I have upgraded lots of PCs, but never tried to work on a NeXT machine. Second question - Is there a NeXT Users' Group in San Francisco or nearby, similar to the SF PC Users' Group? :-) Lew R
From: WDKK49C@prodigy.com (Chris Jasensky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can't run some DOS commands. HELP! Date: 17 Aug 1996 03:41:35 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Distribution: world Message-ID: <4v3f1f$7hm@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> I just installed a new Motherboard, CPU, and sound card. Now I can't get some dos commands to work. Such as Smartdrv, EDIT, and QBASIC. I'm using the old HD's. Both drives are 211 MB drives. One had bad sectors (disconnected it), and the other only formats for 162 MB. But it always reads as a 211 MB drive on diagnostics programs. I've tried formating the drive, and re-doing the DOS partitions, but that doesn't help. I haven't tried a low-level format yet. Any suggestions? I really need help. Chris sneak@chi-town.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Recommended (and commendable) Vendors Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dw8wo1.KtI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 19:26:24 GMT References: <dknox-1208961624480001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <3213EE6E.BCD@ibm.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <3213EE6E.BCD@ibm.net>, Steve Haynes <shaynes@ibm.net> wrote: > >Hear him hear him. > >I too have purchased from each of the above establishments and can only >say that each has gone far beyond the call of duty to help me with >various hardware needs. > Yep. I bought my cube from Sam at Spherical almost three years ago. Worked as advertised, although it didn't come with the 40MB swap disk he had promised. I emailed him about it and he sent it out right away. I haven't bought anything from the other vendors, but have had email contact with them and they've always been pleasant and helpful. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Modems for NeXT turbo color? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960816232059.5859A-100000@charisma> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 23:34:37 -0400 References: <32135C88.41C6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> To: Sean Sun <sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <32135C88.41C6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Sean Sun wrote: > Hello. > > Before I spend a few hundred dollars, will any generic pc/mac modems > work with a NeXT turbo color? I know you have to get a special cable. > But besides that, everything else should work out of the box, right? > Specifically, any experiences with USR sporster 288? Any modem "should" work, you'll be smart to check the return policy before you buy ;-) From looking through a brief survey of 531 archived messages in my PPP mailbox, I'd say that 90% of the people who mentioned the USR Sportster thought it was somehow related to the problems they were having. For my part, I bought a 28.8 SupraFaxModem ("for Mac" which means the software and cable it came with were for Mac) and it works great, seems 100% hayes-compatible. Also shows the connection speed, which I really like for some reason. Also works with NXFax, which is a nice bonus. I paid ~$220 USD about a month ago at Computer City. THE CABLE: Someone once said about the cable: "I got a pair of them from 'Cables To Go' 1-800-826-7904 They sell a 6' and 10' "mac plus hayes modem" cable that is 8pin male round to 25 pin male connector and has hardware flow control... I have not tried it yet, not getting a new modem until Fri. part #dmphm06" TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next
From: allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan MacKinnon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ESS ES1X88 Driver ??? Date: 17 Aug 1996 05:51:35 GMT Organization: Channel 1 Communications Message-ID: <4v3ml7$40o@news1.channel1.com> Has anyone out there used this driver with an add-on ISA board (not a motherboard integrated chip) ??? Shark Multimedia has a card called the 'Mako' that can be bought for about $32... It works great under Win NT3.51 and presumably other OS's. I'm running it under NT and I like it better than my trusty old MedVis PAS-16. However, when I tried the ES1X88 driver under both 3.3 and now 4.0, I get the following message: - mach: ES1x88AudioDriver: Hardware not detected at port 0x220. - The card can _definitely_ exist at 0x220 through 0x250. It uses all of the same ports/irq/dma settings under NT/DOS as the 3.3 and 4.0 drivers expect. As far as I can tell the card is a plain vanilla reference implementation using the ES1688 sound chip. Any thoughts? Thanks... ASM -- Allan MacKinnon mailto:allanmac@blueprint.com Boston, MA (617) 424-0615
From: mshores@iastate.edu (Matt Shores) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SB 32AWE PnP and Imagine Series II Date: 17 Aug 96 07:10:35 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <mshores.840265835@isua2.iastate.edu> Summary: How do I get these things working??? Keywords: Sound Blaster 32 AWE Hello, I aws wondering if anyone could tell me how to get NeXTSTEP 3.3 to recognize a Sound Blaster 32 AWE PnP. It claims that it cannot find the I/O address (220h). I know Plug and Play is a problem, but is there anyone to get around it? I need it enabled for my other OSes. Also, I have an Imagine 128 Series II card and have been waiting for the drivers to come out. Does anyone know if NeXT is going to support them in 3.3? Are they just for OPENSTEP/NeXTSTEP 4.0? Also - has anyone gotten the Omnigroup Pentium Pro video driver to work with the Intel Natoma chipset?? Thanks! Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199608170520.BAA07965@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 96 01:20:15 -0400 Subject: hardware errors "Partition a F.S. sector 90732" Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Please help, as I do not know what to do with these messages. Also, what caused this? to console.log: Target 2: HARDWARE ERROR; block 2c618H retry 1 Target 2: HARDWARE ERROR; block 2c617H retry 2 Target 2: HARDWARE ERROR; block 2c618H retry 3 Target 2: HARDWARE ERROR; block 2c617H retry 4 Target 2: HARDWARE ERROR; block 2c61aH retry 5 Target 2: HARDWARE ERROR; block 2c618H retry 6 Target 2: HARDWARE ERROR; block 2c618H retry 7 Target 2: HARDWARE ERROR; block 2c618H retry 8 Target 2: HARDWARE ERROR; block 2c618H retry 9 sd2 (2,0): sense key:0x4 additional sense code:0x9 SCSI Block in error = 181784; Partition a F.S. sector 90732 to tty: /dev/rsd2a: CANNOT READ: BLK 90728 /dev/rsd2a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey
From: allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan MacKinnon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ESS ES1X88 Driver ??? Date: 17 Aug 1996 17:23:00 GMT Organization: Channel 1 Communications Message-ID: <4v4v5k$899@news1.channel1.com> References: <4v3ml7$40o@news1.channel1.com> Cc: allanmac@blueprint.com In <4v3ml7$40o@news1.channel1.com> Allan MacKinnon wrote: > > Has anyone out there used this driver with an add-on > ISA board (not a motherboard integrated chip) ??? > > However, when I tried the ES1X88 driver under both > 3.3 and now 4.0, I get the following message: > - > mach: ES1x88AudioDriver: Hardware not detected at port 0x220. > - > The card can _definitely_ exist at 0x220 through 0x250. It uses > all of the same ports/irq/dma settings under NT/DOS as the > 3.3 and 4.0 drivers expect. > Just to answer my own question, I've managed to get the card working under NS by running the ESS DOS Config program, setting the card ports/irq/dma, and then warm rebooting to NS. Pretty gross. Also, the ES1x88AudioDriver prints that it recognizes an ES688 versus an ES1688... This is wrong. - ES1x88AudioDriver: ES688 AudioDrive (version: b) at port 0x220. - Other than that, the card works fine... I think the drivers need some work, though. -- Allan MacKinnon mailto:allanmac@blueprint.com Boston, MA (617) 424-0615
From: "Hasssan N. Kelley" <hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PPP help Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 20:52:59 -0400 Organization: SSNet -- Public Internet Access in Delaware! Message-ID: <3216696B.C23@blackstar.ssnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please excuse me for being ignorant but I just can't get ppp working on my slab. I don't think there is an installion problem I just don't know what I'm doing. I had the same problem with linux. I haven't gotten to the scripting yet. I am just trying to manually get the link up and going. Here is my situation. 1. TurboColor with Motoral 28.8. 2. Correct serial cable (040). 3. Can dial out with the modem by dumping a modem command into /dev/cufa. 4. Don't have any communication programs so I'm trying to start the link with chat 5. When I issue the following command: chat -v ''ATZ OK ATDT3783586 CONNECT '' ogin: Phassan word: mypasswd ATZ just appears on the command line for about a minute and then times out. What am I doing wrong. I don't have much free time between work, my wife and sleep so please inundate my mailbox with any information to help get me going. Thanx Hassan
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: can't reasb on a MICROP 1991-27SC21020AV drive Date: 17 Aug 1996 10:18:59 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4v46aj$dl@turbocat.turbocat.de> References: <4v0llm$hq8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano) wrote: > Hi all! > Any help will be appreciated. One of our disks has developed a problem I > don't seem to able to solve. It is a Micropolis 9Gig drive. It does not > fsck due to unreadable blocks, here's what I get from fsck: I have a 4 GB 7200 rpm Micropolis drive here too. It was running for ~ 4 weeks. Now it has MEDIA ERRORS. It came as replacement for a drive (same type) that went so loud that you could not even talk in 4 meters distance. I would never suggest someone to buy a Micropolis drive. 2 out of 3 we have are making "problems" (If you call MEDIA ERRORS a problem:-( _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need replacement mouse for black NEXT! Date: 17 Aug 1996 10:21:15 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4v46er$dl@turbocat.turbocat.de> References: <4ua6hk$450@news.NL.net> <3213EBAB.30CD@ibm.net> Steve Haynes <shaynes@ibm.net> wrote: (...) > Hello, > > Dancing Bear enterprises www.dancingbear.com has them as far as I know You can build your own in 30 minutes. Take a Amiga style mouse and solder the cable like this: Pin Function 1 +5v 2 X Encoder Phase A 3 X Encoder Phase B 4 Y Encoder Phase A 5 Y Encoder Phase B 6 Right Button 7 Left Button 8 Ground _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
From: levenez@club-internet.fr (Eric Lévénez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Replacing internal HD on a NeXTstation ? Date: 18 Aug 1996 14:54:39 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <4v7arf$atq@speedy.grolier.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The problem : replacing the internal HD on a NeXTstation with a bigger one doesn't work. The original internal HD is a SEAGATE, and I want to replace it by a FUJITSU (I try also a Quantum with the same results). Here is some of the tests I have made, and which work : 1) The SEAGATE disk is the 406MB original disk at SCSI addr #1 in the NeXTstation. The left box is always the internal HD. *---* | |----- (no external terminator) *---* SEAGATE + Term 2) The FUJITSU disk is a 1041MB external disk at SCSI addr #4 with jumper set to "no synchronous data transfer". *---* *---* | |-----| | *---* *---* SEAGATE FUJITSU + Term + Term 3) The CD-ROM is a TOSHIBA XM-3401 at SCSI addr #3. *---* *---* | |-----| | *---* *---* SEAGATE CD-ROM + Term + Term 4) The CD-ROM can be ON or OFF, it works. The FUJITSU must be ON, otherwise the NeXTstation doesn't start, with no other consequence that only does't start (SCSI bug hang up I think). *---* *---* *---* | |-----| |-----| | *---* *---* *---* SEAGATE CD-ROM FUJITSU + Term + Term 5) The Scanner is an ScanJet IIp at SCSI addr #6. The CD-ROM or the Scanner can be ON or OFF, the station always starts. *---* *---* *---* | |-----| |-----| | *---* *---* *---* SEAGATE CD-ROM Scanner + Term + Term 6) I have also another HD and a Streamer. All works fine with the internal SEAGATE disk. The external terminator is either a passif or an actif terminator. I can put 4 external SCSI unit with no problem. The only thing is that the last unit must be power on is the SCSI cable is very long. 7) Now, I put the FUJITSU in place of the original SEAGATE, at SCSI addr #1. It works fine. *---* | |----- *---* FUJITSU + Term 8) With an external CD-ROM, the new disk works fine. I am using this configuration to load NEXTSTEP 3.3 from the CD. *---* *---* | |-----| | *---* *---* FUJITSU CD-ROM + Term + Term 9) This is the same configuration as 5), and it doesn't work. The CD-ROM and the Scanner are ON. In this configuration, the FUJITSU, which has loaded with with NS 3.3 using 8), crashes at boot time : the boot procedure starts and an SCSI error occures. Some files in /etc got read error. To recover of this I take the configuration 2), booting with the original HD. The fsck on the FUJITSU says that thousands of file are bad. *---* *---* *---* | |-----| |-----| | *---* *---* *---* FUJITSU CD-ROM Scanner + Term + Term 10) I try the FUJITSU, re-installed with NS 3.3 using 8), with some other SCSI units (which works fine with the original SEAGATE). I always got the same error as 9). And as it takes me lots of time to make a single test (for installing NS with a 2X CD-ROM), I didn't try all the combination. The only one which seem to works when using the FUJITSU internaly is 8). *---* *---* *---* | |-----| |-----| | *---* *---* *---* FUJITSU XXX YYY + Term + Term Has anyone ever changed the internal HD of a NeXTstation with a 1GB or 2GB drive, AND still using externals SCSI unit ? I know that each SCSI unit must have a uniq ID. The internal HD is normaly #1, but it can be another number, it works the same way. I know also that a terminator must be put at each end of the SCSI bus. The terminator is either internal to the unit, or external. In this case the terminator is either passif or actif. I try every thing, thet test 10) never works. If I put another 1GB, it doesn't works. If I put the original SEAGATE, it works. HELP ME. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schaefer@nimbus.ruhr.de (I.Schaefer) Subject: Re: SB 32AWE PnP and Imagine Series II Message-ID: <DwCHBr.15B@nimbus.ruhr.de> Sender: schaefer@nimbus.ruhr.de (I. Schaefer) Organization: OPENSTEP4.0 Site, Germany References: <mshores.840265835@isua2.iastate.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:45:27 GMT In article <mshores.840265835@isua2.iastate.edu> mshores@iastate.edu (Matt Shores) writes: > Hello, > I aws wondering if anyone could tell me how to get NeXTSTEP 3.3 > to recognize a Sound Blaster 32 AWE PnP. It claims that it cannot find > the I/O address (220h). I know Plug and Play is a problem, but is there I use the non PnP SB16 Driver with the SB32 AWE without any Problems. (Either NS3.3 and OS4.0) Ciao Ingo
From: paul@xciv.org (Paul Civati) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB 32AWE PnP and Imagine Series II Date: 18 Aug 1996 17:21:52 GMT Organization: XCIV Message-ID: <4v7jfg$cs@xciv.demon.co.uk> References: <mshores.840265835@isua2.iastate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <mshores.840265835@isua2.iastate.edu>, mshores@iastate.edu (Matt Shores) writes: > I aws wondering if anyone could tell me how to get NeXTSTEP 3.3 > to recognize a Sound Blaster 32 AWE PnP. It claims that it cannot find > the I/O address (220h). I know Plug and Play is a problem, but is there > anyone to get around it? I need it enabled for my other OSes. Also, I You need to get new drivers from NeXTAnswers, as the ones on the CD-ROM won't support PnP. Actually I'm not sure if the SB32 cards are actually supported at all under NeXTSTEP, check the NeXTAnswers hardware compatibilty guide. I still haven't managed to get my SB16 PnP working properly yet. :( [Also, in general, Creative Labs drivers can be got from ftp.creaf.com] -Paul- -- Paul Civati =O= Home: paul@xciv.org =O= http://www.xciv.org/ London UK =O= Home: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk =O= Slackware is.
From: finton@cs.wisc.edu (David J. Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modems for NeXT turbo color? Date: 18 Aug 1996 21:00:52 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <4v80a4$2h76@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <32135C88.41C6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> <4v0vpl$5tm@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) wrote: >2. Watch the serial port speed, 57600 is supposedly tops for a turbo, >but PPP panics too much if I go that fast. This applied to all modems. > Really? I've been running at 57600 with my TurboColor, and before that, with my mono 25 mHz slab, with no complaints from PPP. I'm no expert; I just followed the directions with Steve Perkins' ppp about a year and a half ago, and things have been working just great for me. Just another data point... David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu Oh, I'm using a Supra 14.4LC modem, if it matters.
From: shess@parka.winternet.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: bus mice versus serial mice Date: 18 Aug 1996 17:12:34 -0500 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@parka.winternet.com Message-ID: <ac3f1kcpf1.fsf@parka.winternet.com> I've got a logitech bus mouse on my i486 that's always worked reasonably - but lately has started to develop glitches. [Specifically, under NT it sometimes pauses/sticks as I drag vertically.] Sooo, I'm thinking of upgrading that mouse. Unfortunately, these days nobody seems to sell bus mice. More specifically, the nice mice I've tried all seem to be serial or PS/2 mice. My motherboard doesn't do PS/2, sigh. Are serial mice really _that_ bad under NeXTSTEP? What are the best options for making them reasonable? Alternately, can you purchase some sort of busmouse type card which lets you plug in a serial or PS/2 mouse but lets your system treat it like a busmouse? Or can you hack cables to make it work? [For instance, I could hack a serial mouse cable to plug into my logitech bus card, though I'm concerned the glitches may be in the card, not the mouse.] Thanks, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> (WWW to "http://www.winternet.com/~shess/") Work: 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <I want to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: mycroft@best.com (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Replacing internal HD on a NeXTstation ? Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 19:03:15 -0800 Organization: Klaatu Verata Necktie Message-ID: <mycroft-1808961903150001@mycroft.vip.best.com> References: <4v7arf$atq@speedy.grolier.fr> In article <4v7arf$atq@speedy.grolier.fr>, levenez@club-internet.fr (Eric Lévénez) wrote: > Has anyone ever changed the internal HD of a NeXTstation with a 1GB > or 2GB drive, AND still using externals SCSI unit ? > > I know that each SCSI unit must have a uniq ID. The internal HD is > normaly #1, but it can be another number, it works the same way. > I know also that a terminator must be put at each end of the SCSI bus. > The terminator is either internal to the unit, or external. In this > case the terminator is either passif or actif. > > I try every thing, thet test 10) never works. If I put another 1GB, it > doesn't works. If I put the original SEAGATE, it works. I had a similar problem. My system came with a 100MB internal drive (Quantum) and I have a Micropolis 2GB drive. *---* *---* | 1 |-----| 0 | *---* *---* QUANTUM MICRO + Term + Term This configuration works fine. The system boots from the Micropolis. *---* *---* | 1 |-----| 0 | *---* *---* QUANTUM MICRO + Term + Term Then I disconnected the power to the Quantum but left it connected to the SCSI bus (didn't want the drive hanging around in the file system because it contains my clean copy of the OS for re-installs). This works fine. System starts from the Micropolis and the Quantum doesn't show up in the drive list at bootup. *---* | 1 | *---* MICRO + Term So I wanted to put the Micropolis drive in the slab so that I wouldn't have to have an external drive connected. This one failed every time with the message "SC didn't complete" *---* *---* | 1 |-----| 0 | *---* *---* MICRO QUANTUM + Term + Term Then I tried putting the Quantum in the external drive case and attaching it. This also failed with the same error. Any ideas? -- ----------------------------- Alex Currier mycroft@best.com http://www.best.com/~mycroft/
From: FRGP21A@prodigy.com (Lewis Robinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Optical Drive Question Date: 19 Aug 1996 03:47:32 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Distribution: world Message-ID: <4v8o4k$1g7i@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> Recently acquired a NeXTcube 68030-25 with an optical drive. What sort of removable media do I buy to use the drive? Who sells it? Is the drive a read/write drive or read only? Lew Robinson
From: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: bus mice versus serial mice Date: 19 Aug 1996 01:14:53 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <4v8f6d$d65@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <ac3f1kcpf1.fsf@parka.winternet.com> shess@parka.winternet.com (Scott Hess) writes: > Are serial mice really _that_ bad under NeXTSTEP? > What are the best options for making them reasonable? > I've been using a serial mouse under NS3.3 and OS4.0 and never had any problems. Once I set the speed to something sane (it defaults to warp speed :) things were fine. -- Ian P. Cardenas (icardena@uiuc.edu) CCSO Sites Technical Support "Are they as successful as who,Microsoft? Only drug lords from South America are as successful as Microsoft." -Tim Byars, on the success of NeXT Computer, Inc.
From: mycroft@best.com (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modems for NeXT turbo color? Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 18:18:20 -0800 Organization: Klaatu Verata Necktie Message-ID: <mycroft-1808961818200001@mycroft.vip.best.com> References: <32135C88.41C6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> <4v0vpl$5tm@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4v80a4$2h76@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article <4v80a4$2h76@news.doit.wisc.edu>, finton@cs.wisc.edu (David J. Finton) wrote: > rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) wrote: > >2. Watch the serial port speed, 57600 is supposedly tops for a turbo, > >but PPP panics too much if I go that fast. This applied to all modems. > > > Really? I've been running at 57600 with my TurboColor, and before that, with > my mono 25 mHz slab, with no complaints from PPP. I'm no expert; I just > followed the directions with Steve Perkins' ppp about a year and a half ago, > and things have been working just great for me. Just another data point... Could you point me to a PPP package that works? I've been messing with the ppp0.3 which I found at next-ftp.peak.org but it's got no setup instructions so I've been banging on it with little luck. Also, any clue as to where I can buy a HWHS cable that'll work on my mono slab? - alex -- ----------------------------- Alex Currier mycroft@best.com http://www.best.com/~mycroft/
From: mycroft@best.com (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAZ formatting Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 18:15:06 -0800 Organization: Klaatu Verata Necktie Message-ID: <mycroft-1808961815060001@mycroft.vip.best.com> References: <4v26ka$cs1@news1.ucsd.edu> In article <4v26ka$cs1@news1.ucsd.edu>, bkeeley@ucsd.edu wrote: > OK, I've looked through the FAQ's, and the relevant Radical Solutions > page is still "under construction". So, anybody tried to hook a > JAZ drive to their NeXT? I have a black station running NS3.3. > I can recognize the drive, read the JAZtools cartridge, and format > a new cartridge using Mac format. Trying to use such a Mac formatted > cartridge generated a system panic, however. Not good. I connected my Jaz drive to my next, stuck in a pre-formatted Mac disk and it works fine (same with the Zip drive). If there's no particular reason to have the disk formatted specifically for NeXT then you should just be able to use the Jaz disks formatted for mac. BTW, this is on 3.0 so things may have changed in later versions. - alex -- ----------------------------- Alex Currier mycroft@best.com http://www.best.com/~mycroft/
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From: videoking@mbox200.swipnet.se (Johan Otterstrom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help with HP6400 DAT Date: 18 Aug 96 19:35:35 -600 Organization: - Message-ID: <1262.6804T1175T1782@mbox200.swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-User: s-41962 Hi! I have an HP 6400 DDS backup device. The problem is that it's supposed to store 2GB uncompressed on a 90M DDS tape but I can only fit 945MB on one tape. The firmware says HP35470A 7 09 The drive label says C1503-60001 on one place and C1503-66001 on another place. I called HP support and they tell me this is an OEM HP device and they can't help me with specs for the drive. I searched the net to find anything but couldn't find anything with the C1503 numbers. The drive has 8 dip swithces. Does anyone have a similar drive and knows how the dip's should be set?? The external casing clearly states 2000 and there doesn't seem to be any hardwarecompression so it should be able to store 2GB uncompressed. I've used both Ami-Back and Diavolo Pro with the same results. Someone PLEASE HELP!!! Best regards Johan -- Örebro Videoreklam - We sell DraCo systems and Amiga products! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Swedes! Don't miss our NEW homepage: www.flevel.co.uk/videoking/ Get your copy of Amiga-Pro here!! Videoproductions - 3D graphics Information on video editing on Amiga and DraCo - Read about it! We now have DraCo Motion! email: videoking@mbox200.swipnet.se
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hard Drive errors. Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 19 Aug 1996 10:06:15 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu Message-ID: <4v9ean$9mt@portal.gmu.edu> References: <199608170520.BAA07965@nerc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: are we having fun yet? In article <199608170520.BAA07965@nerc.com>, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> wrote: >Also, what caused this? >to console.log: > SCSI Block in error = 181784; Partition a F.S. sector 90732 I decided to answer this at 4 am while eating a late night peanut butter sandwitch, it's now about 6 am, and this was far more comprehensive than I'd planned. Consider saving it if you worry about these things, I've dumped allot of what I know into it, but considering the hour, there's probably stuff I forgot. If anyone disagree's with any of it, post it, I'd like to see it. if you can do better, post it too, I'd like to see it, just don't do it at 4 am like me. ;) ***** First thing to do: Get a PENCIL and paper, and write down ***** the first number in the above sequence. Keep the pencil and ***** paper handy. Write down ALL other numbers the machine spits ***** back at you. Be ready to use your paper at the drop of a hat ***** to write down any numbers you see having to do with your disk ***** or with the filesystem. ******* Think very seriously about doing a "dump" to tape of your disk ******* right now. Look at "dd" as an alternative/addtional option. ******* Go buy a couple of tapes & borrow a tape drive if you don't ******* have one. In the log, the above line is the important one, and the important number is the FIRST one. The sector numbering for the file system is fairly irrelivant. You have a bad physical disk block. Basicly, a "bad sector" on the surface of your drive. You can use "/usr/etc/reasb" on it to attempt to reassign it. If the program doesn't work, you will have to make other arrangments to fix the sector. There are 3 reasons why it may not work. They are as follows: The drive does not support the re-assign command. This is true of a very few old SCSI-I drives. Not many of them though thank god. There are too many bad blocks in that area of the disk to accomplish the reassignment correctly. This number is somewhat fungable, but is dependant upon the origional low level format of the disk. i.e. once it's been done, it takes a comprehensive resurfacing to fix it. You hit the _bug_ in "reasb" that will prevent you from re-assigning the block sucessfully. Basicly, the bug is this: When the program goes to read the block with the -r switch, it won't mark the block as "bad" even though it can't read it. It barfs and says "can not reassign block". The problem is in the program itself, which used to be avalible as source on NeXT's site a few years ago. The bug is a relativly simple mistake in logic where it doesn't mark the block as bad even though it can't read it. I've reported the bug to NeXT before, but to my knowledge it's never been fixed. I found the problem (in the code, driven by knowledge it wasn't working right) a few years back, but didn't have the skill (or the guts & or spare drive) to fix it myself... **** At this point, do a "scan for superblocks" with /usr/etc/disk. **** Write these numbers down or print them out. If the disk is NOT **** fixed, do it anyway. You will hit the bad sector if it isn't. **** save what you find in any event. You may be desperate for these **** numbers later. You do have other options though. The best solution I have found is to get the disk on a Sun Microsystems box & use their utilities. Basicly what you want to do (with any other OS/Platform as well) is do a -NON-DESTRUCTIVE- <-remember that part-- scan of the surface for bad blocks. You then want to mark the block as bad when it comes up. Use the number you had listed in /usr/adm/messages or on the console. (ALLWAYS write that SCSI block number down...) In the second of the 3 things I mentioned above, I said the number of blocks in the area of the disk is somewhat fungable, and if you reformat the disk at a low level & use a decent program to do it, you can scan the disk and just mark off all the bad blocks there are. There are good Mac & DOS programs out there to do this stuff. I've ended up prefering to do it using Suns, as I've found their performance dealing with disk hardware to be superior. You can get good results w/o a problem using the other 2 however. If you don't though, (this IS possible, it happened to me a -few- times) find a Sun and use that, and you've got a marginaly better shot at fixing it. * If you mark the block as bad without being able to read it, AND you do nothing else to your disk, you will have data still avalible. However, you will have lost SOMETHING for sure. Using care with the fsck command, it will be possible to recover all-but the file affected by the bad block. This is a serious pain in the butt, but it can be done. One HAS to RTFM and understand it well, and even then it's going to seem hairy. (If it doesn't you need your pulse checked.) One other person mentioned 'cascading bad blocks' using reasb. This happens, it's not the fault of the program, but is an indication of an at least somewhat marginal area on the disk. Worst case if you are sucessfull, you can do a bunch forward and backward from the affected sector and "stop the madness" as it were, and just go and fsck the disk normaly & be ok. Try using another platform if you want to check the disk. Also if you can't get it to stop, and you've marked a bunch of sectors ostensibly bad, (i.e. a mark, check, fsck with error, mark, check, fsck with error) going to another platform/os may be your best option. Standards seem to vary a bit... Hopefully by now you're back running if you've done all that. If you've done the hidious fsck madness to recover stuff, you've possibly found out why getting superblock numbers was a Real Good thing. There is a nice alternate list just for occasions such as this. /usr/etc/disk coughs it up for you. Now, presuming you CAN NOT fix the sector. You have data you need on the disk. Well, you just restore from your backups RIGHT?? You DID make them didn't you? Ok, well presuming you for some reason did not ("It can't happen to me" combined with normal human lazyness will do the job) you can use the program "dd" to scarf all the files that are readable off your drive, it won't get the one with an error, but that's junk at this point anyhow. you can dd out to tape, or to a file, or onto another disk, whatever, and get large chunks of what was there back. RTFM on it, cuss allot, and figure out the program and use it. I could go on a bit more, probably for a few more pages, but it's late... Disks are cheap now, and tape drive prices have dropped too, you need both no matter what OS you run, and Unix is kinder about doing backups than any other OS I know, and NS is no exception to that, so if you need a new disk, and don't have a tape drive, get both, and 10 tapes and spend time with the cron & dump man pages and set it up so you can plug a tape in and goto sleep. If you want to mail me too, feel free. I promise I'll respond to it. Tim Scanlon ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail, MIME) Tim Scanlon tfs@epic.org (PGP key aval.) crypto is good Digital Encryption Systems Inc. I own my own words
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: bus mice versus serial mice Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 11:49:18 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <DwDvI7.3vt@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <4v8f6d$d65@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> > shess@parka.winternet.com (Scott Hess) writes: > > Are serial mice really _that_ bad under NeXTSTEP? > > What are the best options for making them reasonable? > > > I've been using a serial mouse under NS3.3 and OS4.0 and > never had any problems. Once I set the speed to something > sane (it defaults to warp speed :) things were fine. > I believe that most of the problems of serial mice are related to the dodgey serial drivers of 3.1/3.2 and early 3.3. Provided that you're running with the latest serial drivers there should be no problems. However why would you want to tie up one of your serial ports. You're gonna need it one day. Maybe not today, maybe not tommorow, but someday... Same can be said for BUS mice they tie up a slot (potentially), and worst of all THEY TIE UP AN IRQ! This shouldn't be a problem, but then again intel hardware should work properly. Sooner or later you're going to need to install a card, and the only place you can put it is on that IRQ. lots of bad DOS style fidling ensues, much to the dispair of the person doing the fidling. Which leaves PS2. Definatly the best option if you have it built into your motherboard. No hardware clashes, works well, cheap. For the end user, all should pretty much behave the same, but from a sysadmin/hardware perspective the issues are much greater. If you can't go PS2, then it's a question of which you think will casue you least problems in the future. $an
From: barry@subsurface.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can a TurboColor NeXTstation take 128 MB of RAM? Date: 19 Aug 1996 13:10:01 GMT Organization: First Net of Acadiana Message-ID: <4v9p39$42i@news1.1stnet.com> References: <4v2c44$10c4@news.doit.wisc.edu> In-Reply-To: <4v2c44$10c4@news.doit.wisc.edu> On 08/16/96, David J. Finton wrote: >I'm adding RAM. I just wanted confirmation as to whether a non-ADB >TurboColor NeXTstation can take 128 MB of RAM. I believe this is the case, >if it's in the form of 4 32-MB sticks, at 70 ns. Yes? > >Could anyone who's done this comment on their experience with 128 MB in a >slab? > >Thanks, > >David Finton >finton@cs.wisc.edu > I'm using 128mb on my non-adb color turbo. I bought 4-32mb 60ns simms - so I could use them in something else later :-). I upgraded in 2 steps, from 32 to 80, then a few weeks later to 128. I did a compile benchmark when I upgraded to 80 and it was 1 or 2 seconds faster than it was with 32. I haven't repeated the benchmark with 128 though. I upgraded mainly to keep the swap file from grow uncontrollably every time that I opened a big image. I bought 2-32mb simms for $210.00 each from 1st Tech in Austin. Hope this helps, Barry -- Barry Vinson Sub Surface Tools, Inc. 6203 West Highway 90 New Iberia, LA 70560 barry@subsurface.com
From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Turbo slab powers up automatically? Date: 19 Aug 1996 15:08:26 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Sender: Bruce Patton Message-ID: <4va01a$g75@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> I am thinking of buying a used turbo slab. The owner sent me this message: We've just found out that the color slab has a slight probelm that it'll turn itself on automatically everytime we turn it off, i.e. it cannot be power-off. Otherwise, everything works fine. You can still of course log-out. Is this something that is easy to fix or correct? Please reply via e-mail. Thanks, Bruce Patton bwp@engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mike_trogni@swissbank.com (Mike Trogni) Subject: NeXT Cube '040 25Mhz can't sense ethernet thinnet connection Message-ID: <1996Aug19.154402.3673@il.us.swissbank.com> Keywords: network is disabled bummer Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 15:44:02 GMT Over the weekend my old NeXTCube & new Intel PC were finally in the same room in the same city so I tried to network them together. I bought some thinnet and connected them both. the Intel PC ( NS3.3 with SMC etherpower PCI card) recognized the thinnet connection OK , but the NeXT when it rebooted would say "network is disabled or computer is not connected to it" when I type "rup" the /tmp/console.log says "Network interface is down" or something like that. I'm sure all the settings were the same across machines according to HostManager.app. I've tried ifconfig'ing the en0 interface up , ifconfig reports the interface is UP anyway ? I've disabled PPP, because I suspected that this was messing up the routing, but it still didn't fix the ethernet. I suspect that the ethernet port is non-functional. When I reboot it correctly says "IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10Mb/s Ethernet". Is there anyway I can check the functionality of the port ( with some diagnostic software, maybe) or is this the result of some mismanagement in the /etc/rc* files ? I'd love to get this to work, and I'd be grateful for any suggestions to sort this out. Mike mike_trogni@swissbank.com
From: knguyen@callisto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 4.0 driver for 3COM PCI EtherLink III 3C590 ?? Date: 19 Aug 1996 16:14:49 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <4va3tp$3th@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, Does it exist? Thanks ;-) Khanh,
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turbo slab powers up automatically? Date: 19 Aug 1996 16:21:02 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <4va49e$k40@news.istar.ca> References: <4va01a$g75@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> In-Reply-To: <4va01a$g75@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> On 08/19/96, Bruce Wayne Patton wrote: >We've just found out that the color slab has a slight probelm that >it'll turn itself on automatically everytime we turn it off, i.e. it >cannot be power-off. By any chance, has the "Turn computer on after power off/failure" checkbox been set in the Preferences application? This option is available on Turbo machines under the "Power button" category. -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul Samson -==- jsamson@istar.ca -==- NeXTmail welcome, no MIME -===================================================================-
From: kelley@mudpot.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: how to fix ethernet hardware??? Date: 19 Aug 1996 16:37:30 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <4va58a$l3u@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> hi all. a lightning strike fried an ethernet repeater that serves some of my machines and it appears to have taken out the network hardware on an old 040 cube we have. does anyone know how to repair this? i assume it will require a system board replacement. booh. if so, can anyone tell me if anyone still sells boards and what prices i can expect to pay? i appreciate any help here. kelley wittmeyer dept of atmospheric science colorado state university
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turbo slab powers up automatically? Date: 19 Aug 1996 18:06:45 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-f-56.usc.edu Message-ID: <4vaafl$erc@usc.edu> References: <4va01a$g75@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <4va49e$k40@news.istar.ca> Cc: jsamson@istar.ca In <4va49e$k40@news.istar.ca> Jean-Paul Samson wrote: > On 08/19/96, Bruce Wayne Patton wrote: > >We've just found out that the color slab has a slight probelm that > >it'll turn itself on automatically everytime we turn it off, i.e. it > >cannot be power-off. > > By any chance, has the "Turn computer on after power off/failure" > checkbox been set in the Preferences application? This option is > available on Turbo machines under the "Power button" category. When you are logged in as root. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: rakesh@arp.com (Rakesh Dubey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ESS ES1X88 Driver ??? Date: 19 Aug 1996 11:17:01 -0700 Organization: GRANITE Systems, Inc. Sender: rakesh@fountainhead.granite.com Message-ID: <wuk9uvme76.fsf@fountainhead.granite.com> References: <4v3ml7$40o@news1.channel1.com> <4v4v5k$899@news1.channel1.com> In-reply-to: allanmac@blueprint.com's message of 17 Aug 1996 17:23:00 GMT In article <4v4v5k$899@news1.channel1.com> allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan MacKinnon) writes: > > In <4v3ml7$40o@news1.channel1.com> Allan MacKinnon wrote: > > > > Has anyone out there used this driver with an add-on > > ISA board (not a motherboard integrated chip) ??? > > > > However, when I tried the ES1X88 driver under both > > 3.3 and now 4.0, I get the following message: > > - > > mach: ES1x88AudioDriver: Hardware not detected at port 0x220. > > - > > The card can _definitely_ exist at 0x220 through 0x250. It uses > > all of the same ports/irq/dma settings under NT/DOS as the > > 3.3 and 4.0 drivers expect. > > > > Just to answer my own question, I've managed to get the card > working under NS by running the ESS DOS Config program, setting > the card ports/irq/dma, and then warm rebooting to NS. Pretty > gross. > > Also, the ES1x88AudioDriver prints that it recognizes an ES688 > versus an ES1688... This is wrong. > > - > ES1x88AudioDriver: ES688 AudioDrive (version: b) at port 0x220. > - > > Other than that, the card works fine... I think the drivers > need some work, though. This is probably PnP related problem and not a driver thing.. The driver reports the version that the hardware is telling it to. Of course the hardware probably has been revised since the driver was written. -Rakesh
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: More than 32 MB in NeXTstation Color? Date: 19 Aug 1996 16:44:16 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4va5l0$3ia@turbocat.turbocat.de> Hello! Is it possible to use more than 32 MB in a NeXTstation color when a new EPROM is used? _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Cube '040 25Mhz can't sense ethernet thinnet connection Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 19:14:23 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <4vaejd$p17@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <1996Aug19.154402.3673@il.us.swissbank.com> mike_trogni@swissbank.com (Mike Trogni) wrote: >I bought some thinnet and connected them both. the Intel PC ( NS3.3 with SMC >etherpower PCI card) recognized the thinnet connection OK , but the NeXT when >it rebooted would say "network is disabled or computer is not connected to it" >when I type "rup" the /tmp/console.log says "Network interface is down" or >something like that. >I suspect that the ethernet port is non-functional. When I reboot it correctly >says "IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10Mb/s Ethernet". Is there >anyway I can check the functionality of the port ( with some diagnostic >software, maybe) or is this the result of some mismanagement in the /etc/rc* >files ? Did you just put a piece of coax between the two machines, or did you put a T fitting and termination resistor on each machine, along with the cable? The termination resistor is important! Without it, the signal from the ethernet transceiver is driven into a high impedence load, and will 'ring'. The detection circuitry and firmware will interpret this as a disabled or disconnected network, resulting in exactly your symptoms. Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: boot wouldn't load serial-port driver any more Date: 17 Aug 1996 22:37:25 -0600 Organization: Computing Research Lab/New Mexico State University Sender: zhao@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu Message-ID: <yeg20h5nw8q.fsf@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> After I upgrade win3.1 to win95 in the same system nextstep 3.3 is running, I lost my serial device and got the message getty: /dev/ttydfa no such device cu: /dev/cufa no such device all time. I checked the file /usr/adm/messages or boot in option -v, the SerailPort driver was not loaded when the sysytem is booting up. I have no idea why the booter doesn't load the serail port driver, though the serialport.driver is configured. I tried to change modem from connectting COM1 to COM2. it still doen't load the serialpot.
From: Tal Lancaster <tlan@fa.disney.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAZ formatting Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:07:58 -0700 Organization: The Walt Disney Company Message-ID: <3218BB8E.41C6@fa.disney.com> References: <4v26ka$cs1@news1.ucsd.edu> <mycroft-1808961815060001@mycroft.vip.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alex Currier wrote: > > In article <4v26ka$cs1@news1.ucsd.edu>, bkeeley@ucsd.edu wrote: > > I connected my Jaz drive to my next, stuck in a pre-formatted Mac disk and > it works fine (same with the Zip drive). If there's no particular reason > to have the disk formatted specifically for NeXT then you should just be > able to use the Jaz disks formatted for mac. BTW, this is on 3.0 so things > may have changed in later versions. "DANGER, Will Robinson, DANGER!!!" There is a bug with NS and its dealing with Mac disks in which data will start disappearing. This usually begins to occur if one has a deep directory tree (say around 6 levels) and then the disk will just become highly unstable until you reformat it. -- Tal Lancaster Technical Director, Disney Feature Animation email: tlan@fa.disney.com WEB: The RenderMan Repository (http://pete.cs.caltech.edu/RMR/)
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: bus mice versus serial mice Date: 19 Aug 1996 19:34:13 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <4vafjl$3p6@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <DwDvI7.3vt@cam-ani.co.uk> In article <DwDvI7.3vt@cam-ani.co.uk> ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) writes: > Which leaves PS2. Definatly the best option if you have it built into > your motherboard. No hardware clashes, works well, cheap. Well, not quite perfect: Under 3.3, the latest PS/2 driver is a bit jerky with the Microsoft PS/2 mouse (as the NeXTAnswer says), and I have the same jerky behaviour with the new Logitech PS/2 MouseMan. (I'm using a ASUS P55TP4XEG motherboard). Also, the PS/2 mouse isn't as cheap as the serial version: you can get the (OEM) Logitech 3-button serial MouseMan here for CAN $30 or so, but the PS/2 version doesn't come in an OEM version and is $70 with all its packaging. However, you can also use the PS/2 version as a serial mouse. I found the behaviour of the serial mouse to be smoother, but with a barely noticeable lag compared to the PS/2 mouse. I wouldn't be bothered by the lag, but the jerkyness is somewhat annoying, particularly when dragging a scrollbar and trying to read text at the same time. (All reports to bug-next have gone ignored.) That said, I went through a fair amount of trouble and expense to use the PS/2 version so out of sheer stubborness I'm still using it. :-) It runs perfectly fine under Win3.1, Win95 and XFree86/FreeBSD. -- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@House.ORG or croehrig@sns.cs.ubc.ca) Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: svail@next.com (Scott Vail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ESS ES1X88 Driver ??? Date: 18 Aug 1996 22:35:14 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4v85r2$lul@news.next.com> References: <4v4v5k$899@news1.channel1.com> In article <4v4v5k$899@news1.channel1.com> allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan MacKinnon) writes: > In <4v3ml7$40o@news1.channel1.com> Allan MacKinnon wrote: > > > > Has anyone out there used this driver with an add-on > > ISA board (not a motherboard integrated chip) ??? > > > > However, when I tried the ES1X88 driver under both > > 3.3 and now 4.0, I get the following message: > > - > > mach: ES1x88AudioDriver: Hardware not detected at port 0x220. > > - > > The card can _definitely_ exist at 0x220 through 0x250. It uses > > all of the same ports/irq/dma settings under NT/DOS as the > > 3.3 and 4.0 drivers expect. > > > > Just to answer my own question, I've managed to get the card > working under NS by running the ESS DOS Config program, setting > the card ports/irq/dma, and then warm rebooting to NS. Pretty > gross. > > Also, the ES1x88AudioDriver prints that it recognizes an ES688 > versus an ES1688... This is wrong. > > - > ES1x88AudioDriver: ES688 AudioDrive (version: b) at port 0x220. > - > > Other than that, the card works fine... I think the drivers > need some work, though. > > -- > > Allan MacKinnon > mailto:allanmac@blueprint.com > Boston, MA (617) 424-0615 Actually, it's our PNP support that needs most of the work (and hopefully it will be done soon!). I happened to visit the local Fry's Electronics last night and came across this particular sound card. I noticed it looked much like the proto cards ESS gave us for driver development except it had ROM chip on-board which I thought was very odd, so I looked at the box. On the front of the box in big letters the three dreaded letters, PNP. Ack! Since our driver was developed for hardware that wasn't PNP compatible at the time it was being written, it will most likely have all sorts of problems setting up the hardware. This should be really easy to fix once our PNP support is fixed. --Scott -- This is not official NeXT stuff, so ignore me if you want. http://www.next.com/~svail/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Optical Drive Question Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DwE4pw.GGs@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 15:08:19 GMT References: <4v8o4k$1g7i@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <4v8o4k$1g7i@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Lewis Robinson <FRGP21A@prodigy.com> wrote: >Recently acquired a NeXTcube 68030-25 with an optical drive. What sort >of removable media do I buy to use the drive? Who sells it? Is the >drive >a read/write drive or read only? Lew Robinson > You need NeXT Optical Disks. They aren't made anymore, but you may be able to get some from c.s.n.marketplace. The drive is read/write. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Replacing internal HD on a NeXTstation ? Message-ID: <DwD9A1.D0@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <4v7arf$atq@speedy.grolier.fr> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 03:49:13 GMT In article <4v7arf$atq@speedy.grolier.fr> levenez@club-internet.fr (Eric L v nez) writes: > The problem : replacing the internal HD on a NeXTstation with > a bigger one doesn't work. The original internal HD is a SEAGATE, > and I want to replace it by a FUJITSU (I try also a Quantum with > the same results). > I've done it twice and had not the slightest problems! Cabling and termination power are the only sources of trouble I can think of, as long as the Fujitsu is jumpered to asynch, SCSI-1. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tsi@oce.nl Subject: Power Supply for NeXTstation Message-ID: <DwDwtL.HLB@oce.nl> Sender: news@oce.nl (The Daily News @ nntp01.oce.nl) Organization: Oce Nederland B.V. - Research & Development Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:17:45 GMT Can somebody tell me where I can order a Power Supply for my NeXTStation On the Power Supply it says: NeXT Part No. 1477 Sony Model No. APS-21 Sony Part No. 68-1120-51 Sony in the Netherlands cannot help me. Thanks in advance, Theo Simons
From: tjallen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: boot wouldn't load serial-port driver any more Date: 20 Aug 1996 00:08:30 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <4vavlu$1bme@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <yeg20h5nw8q.fsf@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) wrote: > After I upgrade win3.1 to win95 in the same system nextstep 3.3 > is running, I lost my serial device and got the message > > getty: /dev/ttydfa no such device > cu: /dev/cufa no such device > > all time. I checked the file /usr/adm/messages or boot in option -v, > the SerailPort driver was not loaded when the sysytem is booting up. > I have no idea why the booter doesn't load the serail port driver, > though the serialport.driver is configured. I tried to change modem > from connectting COM1 to COM2. it still doen't load the serialpot. Go into /dev/ and see if /dev/cufa or /dev/ttydfa are there. If not, then, as root, do a # MAKEDEV std -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu http://theory2.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/
From: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: can't reasb on a MICROP 1991-27SC21020AV drive Date: 19 Aug 1996 16:25:48 GMT Organization: Individual - France Message-ID: <4va4ic$2he@precipice.fdn.fr> References: <4v0llm$hq8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <4v46aj$dl@turbocat.turbocat.de> dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) wrote: > >I have a 4 GB 7200 rpm Micropolis drive here too. It was running for ~ 4 >weeks. Now it has MEDIA ERRORS. It came as replacement for a drive (same >type) that went so loud that you could not even talk in 4 meters distance. > >I would never suggest someone to buy a Micropolis drive. 2 out of 3 we have >are making "problems" (If you call MEDIA ERRORS a problem:-( me too :-) I had 1 Microplis 4110 that was up 24/24h. After one year, it became loud. One year later, it died with MEDIA ERRORS, and lost files :-( Hugues. -------------------------------------------------------------------- hugues@precipice.fdn.fr - France (small NeXTMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199608200016.UAA01790@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 96 20:16:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Modems for NeXT turbo color? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com finton@cs.wisc.edu (David J. Finton) on 18 Aug 1996 wrote: > Really? I've been running at 57600 with my TurboColor, and before > that, with my mono 25 mHz slab, with no complaints from PPP. I'm no > expert; I just followed the directions with Steve Perkins' ppp > about a year and a half ago, and things have been working just > great for me. Just another data point... Well, to add my confusing stuff: Sometimes I can run as 57600, other times it complains about UART overruns (which eventually bring down the connection). There seems to be no rhyme or reason why it works fine somedays and not some others (ie doesn't matter much I try to do or how little) Weird TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey
From: WDKK49C@prodigy.com (Chris Jasensky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can't get DOOM 2 sound FX!! Date: 20 Aug 1996 01:46:28 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Distribution: world Message-ID: <4vb5dk$g2o@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> Subject: IRQ's & my sound card... I load DOOM 2, and I only get music! No sound FX. I tried all the different settings, I even tried moving the card to a different slot. But it still won't give me sound FX. The card is 100% Sound Blaster Pro compatible. I know the card is at IRQ 5, DMA 1, and port 220. But, when I tell DOOM 2 that, it trys to find it on IRQ 7, DMA 1, PORT 220. Do you know how I can fix that? IRQ 7 is taken up by the something I can't change. Something on the motherboard. Where can I find out what is attached to what IRQ? Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Can a TurboColor NeXTstation take 128 MB of RAM? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DwEvs4.3sz@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 00:52:52 GMT References: <4v2c44$10c4@news.doit.wisc.edu> <4v9p39$42i@news1.1stnet.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <4v9p39$42i@news1.1stnet.com>, <barry@subsurface.com> wrote: > >I'm using 128mb on my non-adb color turbo. I bought 4-32mb 60ns simms >- so I could use them in something else later :-). > One gotcha. The Turbo chipset has a gimmick which, if presented with 70ns faster RAM, will run faster memory cycles, thereby getting better performance. However. 60ns SIMMs look like 100ns SIMMs to the controller, giving you the longer cycles. So, a machine with 70ns RAM will be faster than one with 60ns RAM. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: More than 32 MB in NeXTstation Color? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DwF3ML.AJq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 03:42:20 GMT References: <4va5l0$3ia@turbocat.turbocat.de> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <4va5l0$3ia@turbocat.turbocat.de>, David Wetzel <dave@turbocat.de> wrote: >Hello! > >Is it possible to use more than 32 MB in a NeXTstation color when a new EPROM >is used? > _ _ For a non-Turbo machine, no. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Power Supply for NeXTstation Date: 20 Aug 1996 11:00:22 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4vc5s6$243@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <DwDwtL.HLB@oce.nl> In article <DwDwtL.HLB@oce.nl> tsi@oce.nl writes: > Can somebody tell me where I can order a Power Supply for my NeXTStation Have a look at: http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html there you can find links to different companies who can help you. Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: Matthias Klose <doko@cs.tu-berlin.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ESS ES1X88 Driver & Toshiba T700 Date: 20 Aug 1996 12:41:39 +0200 Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <78lofaxrq4.fsf_-_@cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <4v3ml7$40o@news1.channel1.com> <4v4v5k$899@news1.channel1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan MacKinnon) writes: > In <4v3ml7$40o@news1.channel1.com> Allan MacKinnon wrote: > > > > Has anyone out there used this driver with an add-on > > ISA board (not a motherboard integrated chip) ??? > > > > However, when I tried the ES1X88 driver under both > > 3.3 and now 4.0, I get the following message: > > - > > mach: ES1x88AudioDriver: Hardware not detected at port 0x220. > > - > > The card can _definitely_ exist at 0x220 through 0x250. It uses > > all of the same ports/irq/dma settings under NT/DOS as the > > 3.3 and 4.0 drivers expect. > Just to answer my own question, I've managed to get the card > working under NS by running the ESS DOS Config program, setting > the card ports/irq/dma, and then warm rebooting to NS. Pretty > gross. > > Also, the ES1x88AudioDriver prints that it recognizes an ES688 > versus an ES1688... This is wrong. > > - > ES1x88AudioDriver: ES688 AudioDrive (version: b) at port 0x220. > - > > Other than that, the card works fine... I think the drivers > need some work, though. I have the same problem with the ES1x88AUdioDriver on a Toshiba T700; sometimes the driver is configured correctly, sometimes the hardware is not detected; simply rebooting cures the problem; but I don't want to boot twice every time I start using my computer ... Matthias
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modems for NeXT turbo color? Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 08:57:29 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Qm6PMtG00iVDI1W9RE@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <199608200016.UAA01790@nerc.com> In-Reply-To: <199608200016.UAA01790@nerc.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-Aug-96 Re: Modems for NeXT turbo c.. by "Timothy J. Luoma"@nerc. > Sometimes I can run as 57600, other times it complains about UART > overruns (which eventually bring down the connection). > > There seems to be no rhyme or reason why it works fine somedays and > not some others (ie doesn't matter much I try to do or how little) Possibly it's related to the actual transfer rate you're getting from your modem. For example, if the line is noisy, the two modems will negotiate a lower speed connection. The connection between computer and modem may be at 57600, but that doesn't mean that you're getting anywhere near that many characters. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: thanasis@news.cs.columbia.edu (Thanasis Tsantilas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ZIP drive and IBM-compatible disks Date: 20 Aug 1996 09:24:24 -0400 Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <4vcea8$2f7@age.cs.columbia.edu> I would like to use my Zip drive to transfer data back and forth between my Next machine and my PC that runs Windows 95. However, when I hookup the Zip drive to my Next machine and insert an IBM-compatible formatted disk, I get a message saying "the scsi disk is unreadable". Why cant it read it (while it can read floppies fine)? Any ideas of what to do and how to share data between Nextstep and Win95? Thanks thanasis@cs.columbia.edu
From: trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What does this Panic mean? Date: 20 Aug 1996 07:56:20 -0500 Organization: TYBRIN Corporation Message-ID: <4vcclk$7g@cleo.hsv.tybrin.com> A machine here had a panic 8 seconds after a user logged in. The message given in /usr/adm/messages was this: Aug 20 07:16:25 cleo mach: panic: (Cpu 0) fp not one What does this mean? Is there something I should do about it. It is on a NSTC running NS3.2. Thanks, Trey -- Trey McClendon TYBRIN Corporation trey@hsv.tybrin.com Huntsville, AL NeXT / MIME Mail Accepted Fax: 205-837-3472
From: finton@cs.wisc.edu (David J. Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modems for NeXT turbo color? Date: 20 Aug 1996 15:12:22 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <4vckkm$2tjc@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <32135C88.41C6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> <4v0vpl$5tm@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4v80a4$2h76@news.doit.wisc.edu> <mycroft-1808961818200001@mycroft.vip.best.com> mycroft@best.com (Alex Currier) wrote: > >Could you point me to a PPP package that works? I've been messing with the >ppp0.3 which I found at next-ftp.peak.org but it's got no setup >instructions so I've been banging on it with little luck. > >Also, any clue as to where I can buy a HWHS cable that'll work on my mono slab? > > >- alex > >-- >----------------------------- >Alex Currier >mycroft@best.com >http://www.best.com/~mycroft/ Alex, If you saw the other responses, you will realize that I may not be getting as good performace as I thought... Anyway, I'm using Steve Perkins' PPP. A year ago I had to install PPP on a slab which I was selling. I have a big README file printed out, and it says it's from either ftp://ftp.thoughtport.com/pub/next/ppp/ or http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ (yes, cap PPP in this one, according to the file). I used a package called PPP-2.2.pkg. Steve Perkins is at <perkins@cps.msu.edu>, or at least he was then. The PPP I installed originally has a README which I'll include below. It gives another WWW address. A Mac modem cable probably won't work properly for hardware flow control, which you will need to use if you want to go fast. I got mine from Dancing Bear Enterprises, probably for about $20. It worked fine on my old mono slab and on my newer TurboColor. Hope this helps! David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu ------------------README from my old PPP---------------------------- This directory contains a port of ppp-2.2 for NeXT. The current work is in (stable) alpha stage. Latest Release ============== The latest PPP work may be found at: ftp://ftp.duq.edu/pub/next/ppp/ The README file in that directory will explain what each file contains. Installation ============ The file README.NeXT (README.NeXT.MAB.Installation for the installer package) contains directions for installing PPP on NeXT systems. A copy of this file is distributed with the package and a second copy is in the examples directory. Problems ======== This work is always evolving. Since PPP-2.2 is not yet released, you should mail problems and questions to Steve Perkins <perkins@cps.msu.edu> _before_ you go to usenet. This includes configuration questions as well as bug reports.
From: chionhwe@iscs.nus.sg (Wei Peng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep 4.0 and Buslogic Cache controllers? Date: 20 Aug 1996 16:21:29 GMT Organization: Department of Information Science and Computer Science, National University of Singapore Message-ID: <4vcom9$n9n@nuscc.nus.sg> I am a newbie with NextStep except 2 months of WebObjects experience. Programming in Objective C and the NeXT framework is really an eye-opener to me. Now I am interested to learn more by trying out OpenStep 4.0 for Mach on the older 486. This system is equipped with a Buslogic cache controller. The buslogic card has 4mb cache on it. My plan is to format away my current Windows 95 drive and replacee it with OS4.0. This is a 420mb WD drive connected to the cache controller. I currently have another 1.2gig NT drive where I do most of my work. I would be getting OS4.0 for mach through the academic offer. Anyone has any comments or experience running OpenStep with the Buslogic cache controller? Thanks! weipeng
From: Tim Triemstra <empath@a.crl.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstep possible on Dell XPS P166S? Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 13:58:18 -0400 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Message-ID: <3219FCBA.5D8@a.crl.com> References: <4v0q88$9mm@crcnis3.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thomas shores wrote: > > When you get to the point > where you are asked to Configure drivers, no matter what I choose > (even the Default choices, nothing fancy), upon Saving my choices the > screen blanks out and that's the end of it! The next time I boot to > Next, rather than getting to the "choice of languages" window, the > boot process aborts immediately after the "Loading Nextstep" message > with a message "Can't find $LBL". > > So my first question is, has anyone *ever* installed Nexstep on one of > these Dell XPS's? If so, I would be grateful for any tips or > suggestions you might have. Or if you have any idea what might cause > this bizarre behavior, I would appreciate you comments. Thanks, > > Tom Shores Tom, I've been dealing with the same problem (on a P133s using a 1.6GB hard drive but the video was the same.) I put in an old, very compatible Adaptec 2940 and used an external NEC SCSI cdrom drive (same as every other install I've every done now in the dozens.) But, the above screen blank and "$LBL" problem persists on my machine as well. I'm assuming that a replacement PCI chipset driver will need to be developed to get this machine working. However, this has me very annoyed since I'm starting to feel more and more like it won't be possible to keep buying computers to run NS 3.3 on! NeXT should really just publish some replacement drivers disks for newer computers. -- Tim Triemstra empath@a.crl.com
From: hoffmann@fzi.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Mono nextstation won't boot anymore Date: 20 Aug 1996 18:52:35 GMT Organization: Forschungszentrum Informatik (FZI), Karlsruhe, Germany Message-ID: <4vd1hj$700@gate.fzi.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mono nextstation freezes with: Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c. Anything I can do ?
From: gclem@dannug.dk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Busy-out pins on a Quantum XP34300W Date: 19 Aug 1996 09:35:59 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <4v9chv$5n6@snaps.dannug.dk> Hi there, Anyone that knows where to "grab" the busy signal on a Quantum Atlas XP34300W (4.3 GB Wide SCSI disk)? Thx. Geert
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modems for NeXT turbo color? Date: 20 Aug 1996 19:10:59 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <4vd2k3$hd9@goodnews.voicenet.com> References: <32135C88.41C6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> <4v0vpl$5tm@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4v80a4$2h76@news.doit.wisc.edu> <mycroft-1808961818200001@mycroft.vip.best.com> <4vckkm$2tjc@news.doit.wisc.edu> : A Mac modem cable probably won't work properly for hardware flow control, : which you will need to use if you want to go fast. I got mine from Dancing : Bear Enterprises, probably for about $20. It worked fine on my old mono slab : and on my newer TurboColor. : Hope this helps! A MAC modem cable will NOT work. They are totally separate animals. I can provide pinouts for the cable I built if enough people ask. (Should this be in the hardware FAQ?) Alos, the port speed will defiantely go to 57600.....I've run it both on an 040 cube and a color station. I wonder if low memory would have anything to do with Overruns? -Darren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Power Supply for NeXTstation Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DwFw1H.4M0@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 13:56:05 GMT References: <DwDwtL.HLB@oce.nl> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <DwDwtL.HLB@oce.nl>, <tsi@oce.nl> wrote: >Can somebody tell me where I can order a Power Supply for my NeXTStation > Decision 1 in the US (formerly Bell Atlantic) should be able to sell you one. The price to Canada was about $90 US, although it might be prohibitively expensive to Europe. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: dougm@Glue.umd.edu (Doug Mules) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Free Turbo NeXT to first taker Date: 20 Aug 1996 20:17:19 GMT Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <4vd6gf$sgp@mojo.eng.umd.edu> (301) 309-8774. Ask for Patrick.
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstep possible on Dell XPS P166S? Date: 20 Aug 1996 18:26:17 -0400 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <4vde29$fll@news.duke.edu> Re: Nextstep possible on Dell XPS P166S?* thomas shores wrote: * ** When you get to the point * * where you are asked to Configure drivers, no matter what I choose * * (even the Default choices, nothing fancy), upon Saving my choices the * * screen blanks out and that's the end of it! The next time I boot to * * Next, rather than getting to the "choice of languages" window, the * * boot process aborts immediately after the "Loading Nextstep" message * * with a message "Can't find $LBL".* * * So my first question is, has anyone *ever* installed Nexstep on one of * * these Dell XPS's? If so, I would be grateful for any tips or * * suggestions you might have. Or if you have any idea what might cause * * this bizarre behavior, I would appreciate you comments. Thanks, * ** Tom Shores * * Tom, I've been dealing with the same problem (on a P133s using a 1.6GB hard * drivebut the video was the same.) I put in an old, very compatible Adaptec * 2940 and usedan external NEC SCSI cdrom drive (same as every other install * I've every done now inthe dozens.) But, the above screen blank and "$LBL" * problem persists on my machineas well. I'm assuming that a replacement PCI * chipset driver will need to bedeveloped to get this machine working. However, * this has me very annoyed since I'mstarting to feel more and more like it * won't be possible to keep buying computers torun NS 3.3 on! * * NeXT should really just publish some replacement drivers disks for newer * computers. * * -- Tim Triemstra * empath@a.crl.com I had the exact same problem with NS/I 3.3 on a Micron P133 Millenia Plus system. Every time I got the "Can't find $LBL" I had to reinstall the entire NS/I. It has to do with the S3 chip in the graphics card (mine is an ELSA Wnner2000 Pro/4X). When it tries to go into VGA graphics mode (during booting and rebooting), the machine crashes. So, the first thing is to boot in non-graphics mode. Here's the way I prevented it from going into VGA graphics mode during shutdown: use Alt-NumLock to halt the machine IMMEDIATELY after hitting the save button in Configure.app. You have to catch it between when it has saved the config files and when it tries to shut down the system. It requires some handy timing. When my machine comes back up, it boots without boot graphics. I also disabled "power off" in root's Preferences, because that would put it back into VGA graphics again, and crash the machine. Give this a try and I hope you'll be up and running soon. ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <NeXTMail and MIME: altenber@pueo.mhpcc.edu* Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modems for NeXT turbo color? Date: 21 Aug 1996 02:33:27 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <4vdshn$4qu@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> References: <32135C88.41C6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> <4v0vpl$5tm@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4v80a4$2h76@news.doit.wisc.edu> <mycroft-1808961818200001@mycroft.vip.best.com> <4vckkm$2tjc@news.doit.wisc.edu> <4vd2k3$hd9@goodnews.voicenet.com> dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) wrote: > Alos, the port speed will defiantely go to 57600.....I've run it both on > an 040 cube and a color station. > > I wonder if low memory would have anything to do with Overruns? I doubt it. I have an old 25 Mhz. mono Cube with 40 MB of RAM which is pretty healthy for a mono machine. When I was exchanging mail via serial line UUCP, I could run at 57.6 with no buffer overruns. But when I connected to my ISP via PPP and read news, lots of buffer overruns occurred. Web browsing didn't seem to cause frequent buffer overruns. I never figured out a pattern, but after a few kernel panics that occurred at the same time as buffer overruns were occurring, I slowed everything down to 38.4 and have not experienced kernel panics since. I suspect that 57.6 is on the hardware edge. When a modem connection with no bottlenecks is made and data are flowing across the phone line fast enough that a true 57.6 throughput is occurring between the modem and serial port, buffer overruns are probably likely when the CPU is distracted with any sort of other processing. I suspect that the difference in people's experiences is due to the variations in their phone line throughput, the type of data being transmitted, the load on the CPU, etc., etc. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: ACoder@infoave.net (ACoder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.pens,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon Subject: Great Shareware Date: 21 Aug 1996 03:50:12 GMT Organization: Info Avenue INTERNET Access Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4ve11k$h7a@news1.sunbelt.net> It's probably the best page on the net. Great Shareware programs written by a totally disabled Vietnam veteran that will make you glad you went there. Acoder's Cave is the site of MamSofCo's shareware programs. Programs on this page are Win3.1 and Win95 compatible. Go to: http://www.mamsofco.com
From: scollarw@cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Free Turbo NeXT to first taker Date: 21 Aug 1996 04:08:22 GMT Organization: CADVision Message-ID: <4ve23m$3dlu@elmo.cadvision.com> References: <4vd6gf$sgp@mojo.eng.umd.edu> In-Reply-To: <4vd6gf$sgp@mojo.eng.umd.edu> On 08/20/96, Doug Mules composed a News article about Free Turbo NeXT to first taker: >(301) 309-8774. Ask for Patrick. > This may or may nnot be a scam. the number is a line at Patrick M Connolly Law Offices. I left a message at 10:00 pm MST on their answering machine. For the cost of a long distance phone call...I will take the chance that this is legit. (I am, after all a trusting soul) but my momma' always said "you don' get nuttin fer nuttin!" -- Bill Scollard Calgary, Canada MotoGuzzi - California III || NeXT Turbo Colour Software AG - Natural || OmniWeb & the NET BackGammon / Poker / skiing || Marriage & Kids =====> What more could there possbibly be!<======
From: kzin@arcadia.SJSU.EDU (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI WinTurbo supported? Date: 21 Aug 1996 07:05:35 GMT Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <4vecfv$dlv@nuke.csu.net> I know that in the past, one of the ATI drivers was reported to work with the ATI WinTurbo, but the current hardware guide doesn't say that the ATI Mach 64 driver will work with it. (whereas the Xfree86 driver for the Mach 64 does work with both). Does anyone know if this card DOES work with Nextstep 3.3 or Openstep/Mach 4.0? (I'm planning to buy a new machine with a new graphics adaptor (old machine is VLB, and has a AGI Graphics ultra pro, the new one will be PCI). I'd like to have it boot in to a couple different OS's.. and Matrox apparently doesn't have a Xfree86 driver, nor do they give out their specs so that anyone else can write one.. So I'm looking for a card that will work with both.. but the local cheapie dealer only has WinTurbos, not Graphics Pro Turbos. Unfortunately I can only go as high as 4mb on one of those cards :-(
From: Danny Wright <74521.402@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP Postscript errors Date: 21 Aug 1996 06:54:54 GMT Organization: Houston Apt. Association Message-ID: <4vebru$p70$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> Our kick-butt HP5SiMX can't handle print jobs from Date.app (This appears to have been in NS3.0, but not in NS3.3) in their default page size. We get ERROR: configurationerror OFFENDING COMMAND: setpagedevice STACK: After this was brought to my attention I found out it didn't work on our HP4MPlus either. However our HP4SiMX and our HPIIISi have no problem with it. HP suggested setting the paper size in the tray to "Custom", but this didn't help (Date's Page Layout says it is 7.???"x6.???" (don't remember exactly))
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 32 MB -> 96 MB ==>> 10% slowdown Date: 21 Aug 1996 03:12:52 -0400 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <4vectk$p5r@news.duke.edu> I just added 64 MB (2 x 32MB) 60ns EDO DRAM to my Micron P133 Millenia Plus Pentium system running NEXTSTEP 3.3 with 32 MB (2 X 16MB) 70ns EDO DRAM, for a total of 96 MB. The system now runs about 10% slower with memory I/O intensive benchmarks (e.g. NXFactor 2.0, from 3.02 to 2.75). Why would this be? The SIMMS are from The Chip Merchant. They are IBM brand DRAM. I read on the Net that if you go over 32 MB RAM, you have to increase the cache from 256K to 512K, otherwise the additional RAM isn't cached. I wonder if that is what is going on? Is there anything you can do about it? I don't think I can upgrade my cache. Can a modified BIOS fix it, to better use the cache? Micron uses the Micronic P54Hi motherboard, 256 K SyncBurst cache, 70ns Micron DRAM. Has this issue come up among PC users? Any info is welcome. ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <NeXTMail and MIME: altenber@pueo.mhpcc.edu> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: edwintam@webhk.com (Edwin TAM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SUMMARY: NEXTSTEP 3.3 and 64Mb RAM ? Date: 21 Aug 1996 10:23:05 GMT Message-ID: <4veo29$28g@hkt001.hkt.net> It is in fact due to the 8192K Mapped Memory location of the Video device, I set it using Configure.app to 64M (0x4000000) and the problem vanished. It just works!(tm) Thanks for all that responsed, and you are very helpful. Edwin TAM > I tried on two PCs, both with 32Mb RAM installed, same config, except one of > them is a ASUS Triton board (P55TP4XE) and the other is a ASUS Triton II > board (T55T2P4C). Both of them are upgraded to 64Mb (2 more 16Mb SIMMs are > added). Both machines boot from the same harddisk, which is a working> harddisk/OS from the P55TP4XE before the RAM upgrade, both got stucked at > 'Looking at netinfo local.nidb'. > > When removed the 32Mb out of the 64Mb, both boot process complete smoothly > without a single flaw. > > Tried swapping with other 16Mb SIMMs, even tried using two 32Mb SIMMs, RAMs > are pretty sure okay, only that they refuse to get pass the 'local.nidb' part > when on 64Mb. > > Any suggestions ? -- Edwin
From: knguyen@callisto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PCI network card for OS4 Date: 21 Aug 1996 11:46:11 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <4vesu3$1g3@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, We got a new machine here to install OpenStep 4.0, but the machine was equiped with a 3COM PCI 3C590 ethernet card (10MBps). There is no driver for this card in the CD as well as from NextAnswer. So we planned to change it for another PCI ethernet card. We would like to ask the opinion of all who have used a PCI ethernet card (we think that there is only 4.0 driver for Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 PCI). Please share your experiences with us. We have also another problem with the MatroxMilennium card (2M of ram). Sometimes after rebooting and switching to hiresolution (1200x1000 & 1150x860), the monitor cut the video signal automatically with an alarm message that its H- and V- frequency is too high (for ex: H-freq=160-->200KHz!!). The same machine with another Matrox card works just fine. Have anyone had such a problem with a Matrox card. We'd like to make sure before returning the card back to the seller. Thanks very much, Khanh Nguyen, (Vienna University of Technology)
From: vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 32 MB -> 96 MB ==>> 10% slowdown Date: 21 Aug 1996 12:57:06 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4vf132$nrl@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <4vectk$p5r@news.duke.edu> Cc: altenber@acpub.duke.edu Lee Altenberg wrote in comp.sys.next.hardware: > > I just added 64 MB (2 x 32MB) 60ns EDO DRAM to my Micron P133 > Millenia Plus Pentium system running NEXTSTEP 3.3 with 32 MB > (2 X 16MB) 70ns EDO DRAM, for a total of 96 MB. The system > now runs about 10% slower with memory I/O intensive benchmarks > (e.g. NXFactor 2.0, from 3.02 to 2.75). Why would this be? > > The SIMMS are from The Chip Merchant. They are IBM brand DRAM. I > read on the Net that if you go over 32 MB RAM, you have to > increase the cache from 256K to 512K, otherwise the additional > RAM isn't cached. I wonder if that is what is going on? Is AFAIK, this depends NOT on the size of the cache, but on the chipset in your motherboard. Triton chipsets f.e. are unable to cache more than 64MB of RAM. > there anything you can do about it? I don't think I can upgrade > my cache. Can a modified BIOS fix it, to better use the cache? > Micron uses the Micronic P54Hi motherboard, 256 K SyncBurst cache, > 70ns Micron DRAM. > > Has this issue come up among PC users? > > Any info is welcome. Stay with 64MB, accept the 10% performance loss or exchange your MB. > ======================================================================= > Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Volker --- Volker Safran, Berlin, Germany ___________________________________ --- / Phone: +49 30 45482196 (private) volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de / +49 30 45058062 (at work) vsafran@ukrv.de (at work) / FAX : +49 30 45482198 (private) ______________________________/ +49 30 45058904 (at work)
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 32 MB -> 96 MB ==>> 10% slowdown Date: 21 Aug 1996 11:56:43 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <4vethr$gme@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <4vectk$p5r@news.duke.edu> In article <4vectk$p5r@news.duke.edu> altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) writes: > I just added 64 MB (2 x 32MB) 60ns EDO DRAM to my Micron P133 > Millenia Plus Pentium system running NEXTSTEP 3.3 with 32 MB > (2 X 16MB) 70ns EDO DRAM, for a total of 96 MB. The system > now runs about 10% slower with memory I/O intensive benchmarks > (e.g. NXFactor 2.0, from 3.02 to 2.75). Why would this be? Does your board have the Triton chipset ? I remember something like their address width for the dirty tags only allowing them to work for up to 64 MB. Thus, if your test runs in the memory above, caching is disabled. Maybe you get your old performance when working with "only" 64 MB ? Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Email:droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kyle Hearfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstep possible on Dell XPS P166S? Date: 21 Aug 1996 12:59:40 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Message-ID: <4vf17s$kgg@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <4v0q88$9mm@crcnis3.unl.edu> Tom, I had the same problem installing on my Dell XPS 133s (basically the same configuration as the 166s) The problem lies in your video card. what you need to do is to download the Driver for your video card, and decompress it so that you have the xxxxx .config file on a floppy with a directory structure like this: " private/Drivers/i386/xxxxx.config" now that you have this you are all set to start installing. When you install the machine you MUST install this driver when it asks you if there are any other drivers you would like to load before continuing the install. This is the point just after you have selected the drivers for your CDROM and HD. If you follow these steps, NS should load the video driver on the first boot. As for the CDROM, the ide driver in NS 3.3 does not support atapi CDROMs, you need to download the eide drivers for this to work. I would be interested to know if you have any luck getting the Soundblaster to work. Hope this helps! some things of interest for you: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/ NeXTanswer # 2114 Number Nine Motion 771 Display driver pkg NeXTanswer # 1838 EIDE driver V3.31 or NeXTanswer # 1977 Newer beta of EIDE driver NeXTanswer # 1933 EIDE/ATAPI support in NeXTStep 3.3 kyle. thomas shores(tshores@unlinfo.unl.edu) wrote: : Help! I'm trying to install Nextstep 3.3 on a Dell XPS P166S with 32 MB : RAM, #9 Motion 771 video card and EIDE. It's been a frustrating experience. : First, I had to get a slower IDE CD ROM, because the EIDE driver : doesn't support the 8X CD ROM that came with the system. Next I get : the installation to finish ... almost. When you get to the point : where you are asked to Configure drivers, no matter what I choose : (even the Default choices, nothing fancy), upon Saving my choices the : screen blanks out and that's the end of it! The next time I boot to : Next, rather than getting to the "choice of languages" window, the : boot process aborts immediately after the "Loading Nextstep" message : with a message "Can't find $LBL". I might add this system has a 2.5 : Gb EIDE drive which was partitioned into a 1Gb windoze 95 partition : and the rest Nextstep. The 95 partition works fine. I might also add : that I had originally set up the Next partition on a separate system that had : a SCSI CDROM, then moved it back to the Dell box. It seemed that every : time a shutdown was attempted on the Dell, the system would lock up : after a screen change and need fsck cleaning on the next boot up. : So my first question is, has anyone *ever* installed Nexstep on one of : these Dell XPS's? If so, I would be grateful for any tips or : suggestions you might have. Or if you have any idea what might cause : this bizarre behavior, I would appreciate you comments. Thanks, : Tom Shores -- I don't wan't the world, I just want your half. -Unknown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kyle D. Hearfield kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PGP FINGERPRINT = 8A 3C 24 C9 86 F5 E6 3C 7B 91 D2 B1 CF 32 B7 E9 **finger for public Key**
From: kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kyle Hearfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP! Integrated Soundblaster Date: 21 Aug 1996 13:02:36 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Message-ID: <4vf1dc$kgg@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> I have a Dell XPS 133 with a Soundblaster Vibra 16 sound card integrated into the motherboard, and I cannot get any of the soundblaster drivers to work for me. Any suggestions? Kyle. -- I don't wan't the world, I just want your half. -Unknown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kyle D. Hearfield kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PGP FINGERPRINT = 8A 3C 24 C9 86 F5 E6 3C 7B 91 D2 B1 CF 32 B7 E9 **finger for public Key**
From: duxford@ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Parallel Port on a P6/200 system Date: 21 Aug 1996 14:30:13 GMT Organization: ISSC South Region, RTP, NC Message-ID: <4vf6hl$17lo@rtpnews.raleigh.ibm.com> I am testing a pentium Pro 200 with a 3com Etherlink III ethernet adapter. An IDE machine with 32 meg of memory. Using Nextstep version 3.3 for INTEL Processors. I have had to disable the Advanced Power Management and Automatic Hardware Power Management in the machines BIOS to be able to get Nextstep to load. All the testing has run without any problems. Now I'm down to my last test and having a problem getting the Parallel port to configure. When I go into PrintManager.app and click on Create I try to add a IBM 4019 17 fonts when I click on parallel a message "This communications option isn't available. Check your computers configuration". My system is using the IBM SurePath BIOS. the parallel port is IRQ 7 set at 378h in standard mode. I have also used 278h and 3bch without any luck. The printer port has tested without a problem using Novell Windows NT or Windows 95. Even IBM DOS 7.0 In Nextanswers I found Entry Number 1330 about using 378h. Can anyone else have some thoughts on what might be the problem or something to try.
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Replacing internal HD on a NeXTstation ? Date: 21 Aug 1996 14:39:14 GMT Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland Message-ID: <4vf72i$1ja6@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <4v7arf$atq@speedy.grolier.fr> <DwD9A1.D0@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki (Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org) wrote: > I've done it twice and had not the slightest problems! > Cabling and termination power are the only sources of trouble I can think > of, as long as the Fujitsu is jumpered to asynch, SCSI-1. I second that. Sounds like it's probably TERMPWR. Best wishes, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: eriko@austin.ibm.com (Erik O'Shaughnessy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modems for NeXT turbo color? Date: 21 Aug 1996 09:42:27 -0500 Organization: IBM Austin Sender: eriko@toolbox.austin.ibm.com Message-ID: <ufviecvlws.fsf@toolbox.austin.ibm.com> References: <32135C88.41C6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> <4v0vpl$5tm@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4v80a4$2h76@news.doit.wisc.edu> <mycroft-1808961818200001@mycroft.vip.best.com> <4vckkm$2tjc@news.doit.wisc.edu> <4vd2k3$hd9@goodnews.voicenet.com> In-reply-to: dwright1@voicenet.com's message of 20 Aug 1996 19:10:59 GMT They say dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) writes: > : A Mac modem cable probably won't work properly for hardware flow control, > : which you will need to use if you want to go fast. I got mine from Dancing > : Bear Enterprises, probably for about $20. It worked fine on my old mono slab > : and on my newer TurboColor. > > : Hope this helps! > > > A MAC modem cable will NOT work. They are totally separate animals. I > can provide pinouts for the cable I built if enough people ask. (Should > this be in the hardware FAQ?) > [snip discussion on port speeds] > > -Darren I have to take odds with the blanket statement "A MAC modem cable will NOT work." :) If you get a Mac _High-Speed_ modem cable, it will work. My setup is living(?, ok functioning) proof that the cable works. My O40 cube regularly get connect speeds of 38.4 with a 28.8 Zoom modem, so I am fairly confident that the cable is working :) Of course, YMMV. regards, ejo -- Erik O'Shaughnessy - AIX Service Development Team - eriko@austin.ibm.com Disclaimer: You know the drill.. all opinions are mine.. blah blah blah. (512) 823-4033 Cogito Ergo Disclaimum T/L 523-4033
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: OmniPentiumPro + audio = crash Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <960821115838.242AAFcE.magnus@darwin> Keywords: OmniPentiumProDriver, SoundBlaster16, P6, EtherExpress, ISA Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:58:38 GMT Hi, I recently upgraded a 90MHz P5 system to a 200MHz P6 by moving most components and ran into an annoying problem, the most serious symptom of which is that the machine crashes (hard) when I play long sounds (or repeated short ones) with the OmniPentiumProDriver installed. This driver appears to install itself correctly as mach: OmniPentiumPro: Using first memory range specified for the direct device. mach: OmniPentiumPro: Adding WC MTRR for 0x7f800000 - 0x7fffffff (length 0x800000) mach: length mask = 0xff800000 mach: Registering: OmniPentiumPro0 when I use the new DiamondStealthDriver (v. 3.32), and it speeds up graphic benchmarks by more than 50% so I would dearly like to use it. I have no idea which driver is the cause of the crashes -- it seems odd that the OmniPentiumProDriver would cause crashes only when sounds are played. There are other indications that there is a general problem with transfers over the ISA bus: first, sound is extraordinarily unreliable even without the OmniPentiumProDriver (although there are no crashes), second, the EtherExpress16 driver gives the following messages during boot: mach: EtherExpress16: Unable to perform 16-bit transfers mach: EtherExpress16: Defaulting to 8-bit mode mach: EtherExpress16C at port 300 irq 10 I am running 3.3, and my configuration as reported by BugNeXT.app is as follows: Hardware Configuration: Processor: I386 (Intel 486) Primary memory: 64.00 MB Hostname: darwin Boot Drivers SerialPorts Floppy PS2Keyboard PCIBus BusLogicSCSIDriver EISABus Drivers: System Serial at IRQ 4 3; ports 0x3f8-0x3ff 0x2f8-0x2ff Floppy at IRQ 6; DMA 2; ports 0x3f2-0x3f7 PS2Keyboard at IRQ 1; ports 0x60-0x65 PCIBus BusLogic PCI EISABus at IRQ 2; ports 0x00-0x0f 0x20-0x21 0x40-0x4b 0x70-0x71 0x81-0x8F 0x92-0x92 0xc0-0xcf System Parallel at IRQ 7; ports 0x378-0x37f PS2Mouse at IRQ 12; Sound Blaster 16 at IRQ 5; DMA 1 5; ports 0x0220-0x0233 0x330-0x331 0x388-0x389 EtherExpress at IRQ 10; ports 0x300-0x30F SCSI Tape Diamond Stealth 968 PCI ports 0x3b0-0x3df map 0x7f800000-0x7fffffff 0xa0000-0xbffff 0xc0000-0xcffff; I am grateful for any suggestions, and will summarize the eventual (hopefully) solution. Thanks in advance, -Magnus --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME) +1.312.702-1093 phone (lab) +1.312.667-5331 phone (home) +1.312.702-9740 fax
From: blazekru@clunix.cl.msu.edu (Rudolf B Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More than 32 MB in NeXTstation Color? Date: 21 Aug 1996 16:57:36 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <4vff60$1mt0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <4va5l0$3ia@turbocat.turbocat.de> <DwF3ML.AJq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : In article <4va5l0$3ia@turbocat.turbocat.de>, : David Wetzel <dave@turbocat.de> wrote: : >Hello! : > : >Is it possible to use more than 32 MB in a NeXTstation color when a new EPROM : >is used? : > _ _ : For a non-Turbo machine, no. Wasn't it possible for the last few series of NonTurbo machines which had a new ROM? I think there was some info in the NeXTanswers or FAQ's which described a procedure how to check your hardware. I think that it was the number of memory sockets reported after issuing 'm' in the ROM monitor ... This is what all I remember, search the net for more ... Good luck, Rudy.
From: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L.van Emmerik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Summary: Need replacement mouse for black NEXT! Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:59:56 GMT Organization: NLnet Message-ID: <4vfiqt$ht6@news.NL.net> References: <4ua6hk$450@news.NL.net> <4umkbq$lt4@news.NL.net> pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L.van Emmerik) wrote: >pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L.van Emmerik) wrote: >>Some time ago a have seen an offering of an adapter that makes it >>possible to use a standard PC-mous on a black NEXT. >>Does anyone know where i can get such a convertor, >>or does anyone have a schematic of how to make such >>a converter? >>Pleace Email to: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net. >>P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. >>Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo >>Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands >>-- >==================================================================== >from: http://peanuts.leo.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.098.html >5.24 What are the NeXT mouse connections? >mouse, connector Read the following instruction. >Thanks to Alvin Austin (austin@cs.USask.Ca) I have the information I >need on the NeXT mouse connections. > Pin Function > 1 +5v > 2 X Encoder Phase A > 3 X Encoder Phase B > 4 Y Encoder Phase A > 5 Y Encoder Phase B > 6 Right Button > 7 Left Button > 8 Ground >P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. >Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo >Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands >-- ===================================================================== From a Logitech WWWW page: Logitech Pointing Device Hardware Information Product Support Document # 1410 The following are the pin-outs for Logitech mice as documented in the Logitech Mouse Technical Reference and Programming Guide. Note that the wire colors are provided only for the bus mouse. Wire colors are not available for serial or pix-port mice. Serial Mouse Logitech's Type M, Type V and Type W serial mice are available with either a standard RS232C subminiature DB9S female connector compatible with the IBM AT, or an adapter for a DB25S subminiature female connector compatible with the IBM PC/XT. 9 pin 25 pin Wire Name Comments shell 1 Protective Ground 3 2 Receive Data Serial data from host to mouse 2 3 Transmit Data Serial data from mouse to host (for power only) 7 4 RTS 8 5 CTS 6 6 DSR 5 7 Signal Ground 4 20 DTR RTS = Request to Send CTS = Clear to Send DSR = Data Set Ready DTR = Data Terminal Ready To function correctly, both the RTS and DTR lines must be positive. The lines DTR-DSR and RTS-CTS must NOT be shorted. Implement the RTS toggle function by setting the RTS line negative and positive again. The negative pulse width is at least 100ms. After a cold boot, the RTS line is usually set to a negative level. In this case, setting the RTS line to a positive level is also considered an RTS toggle. Bus Mouse The Logitech bus mouse has a male D-subminiature or a male miniature circular connector, similar to the Microsoft InPort connector. Wire Mini-DIN Logitech Microsoft Color Pin P-Series Signal InPort Signal Black 1 +5V +5V Brown 2 X2 XA Red 3 X1 XB Orange 4 Y1 YA Yellow 5 Y2 YB Green 6 Left SW1 Violet 7 Middle SW2 Gray 8 Right SW3 White 9 GND Logic GND SHIELD shell chassis chassis PS/2 (PIX) Mouse The mouse cable assembly has a six pin miniature circular (mini-DIN) plug for attaching to the host. Pin Wire Name 1 DATA 2 Reserved 3 Ground 4 +5V Supply 5 CLK 6 Reserved Shield Chassis Bi-directional transmission is controlled by the CLK and DATA lines. Both are fed by an open collector device which lets either host or mouse force the line to "0". During non-transmission, CLK is at "1" and DATA can be at "0" or "1". The host can inhibit mouse transmission by forcing CLK to "0". If the host inhibits the mouse while it is transmitting, the byte must be retransmitted (if the inhibit state arrived before the 11th clock). ================================================================================ Seems to me that, using a Logitech Bus mouse you have to make the following conversion NEXT Wire Mini-DIN Logitech Microsoft Pin Function Color Pin P-Series Signal InPort Signal 1 +5v Black 1 +5V +5V 2 X Encoder Phase A Brown 2 X2 XA 3 X Encoder Phase B Red 3 X1 XB 4 Y Encoder Phase A Orange 4 Y1 YA 5 Y Encoder Phase B Yellow 5 Y2 YB 6 Right Button Gray 8 Right SW3 7 Left Button Green 6 Left SW1 8 Ground White 9 GND Logic GND Not Used Violet 7 Middle SW2 Not Used ?? SHIELD shell chassis chassis P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands --
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can a TurboColor NeXTstation take 128 MB of RAM? Date: 21 Aug 1996 16:40:57 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4vfe6p$c8e@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4v2c44$10c4@news.doit.wisc.edu> <4v9p39$42i@news1.1stnet.com> barry@subsurface.com wrote: > I'm using 128mb on my non-adb color turbo. I bought 4-32mb 60ns > simms - so I could use them in something else later :-). Note that a turbo station will mistake 60ns RAM for 100ns RAM, and run slower. (that's from an article by Mike Paquette). > I bought 2-32mb simms for $210.00 each from 1st Tech in Austin. And the prices keep falling... I just ordered two for $175 a piece from Chip Merchant. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 32 MB -> 96 MB ==>> 10% slowdown Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:19:57 GMT Organization: UBC Message-ID: <321b4c9a.67684218@news.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <4vectk$p5r@news.duke.edu> <4vethr$gme@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> I think there is a problem with certain cache module that has a smaller tag RAM size.. apparently (ASUS) the newer 3.0 coast modules sport a larger tag RAM size (32k?) and it solves the problem Godwin On 21 Aug 1996 11:56:43 GMT, droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) wrote: >In article <4vectk$p5r@news.duke.edu> altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) >writes: >> I just added 64 MB (2 x 32MB) 60ns EDO DRAM to my Micron P133 >> Millenia Plus Pentium system running NEXTSTEP 3.3 with 32 MB >> (2 X 16MB) 70ns EDO DRAM, for a total of 96 MB. The system >> now runs about 10% slower with memory I/O intensive benchmarks >> (e.g. NXFactor 2.0, from 3.02 to 2.75). Why would this be? > >Does your board have the Triton chipset ? I remember something like >their address width for the dirty tags only allowing them to >work for up to 64 MB. Thus, if your test runs in the memory >above, caching is disabled. Maybe you get your old performance >when working with "only" 64 MB ? > > Detlev >-- >Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany >Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Email:droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de > > C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: jpf_wark@adan.kingston.net (John Warkentin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help with NeXT formatting Jaz ASAP Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:49:05 GMT Organization: InterNet Kingston, Kingston Ont. Message-ID: <4vflc3$ok7@gollum.kingston.net> I checked the group but my server doesn't keep the news long enough to ever find the answers! That said, can someone please show me how to NeXT format Jaz media under 3.3 black. I've tried to format command in the Workspace but it only lets me Mac format the disks. When I try to NeXT format I get this error: cylinder group too large (16 cylinders); max: 4 cylinders per group usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) I hope someone can help me out. Cheers, John Warkentin jpf_wark@adan.kingston.net
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More than 32 MB in NeXTstation Color? Date: 21 Aug 1996 16:44:33 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4vfedh$c8e@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4va5l0$3ia@turbocat.turbocat.de> <DwF3ML.AJq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > David Wetzel <dave@turbocat.de> wrote: > > Hello! > > > > Is it possible to use more than 32 MB in a NeXTstation color > > when a new EPROM is used? > For a non-Turbo machine, no. Note: some non-Turbo machines do have the newer memory subsystem, which can take the higher density SIMMs. I don't know if it's true for this system, and I don't think the EPROM's have anything to do with it, but one can't make the blanket statement that all non-turbo machines are limited to 32meg. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: tlm@einstein.ams.ameslab.gov (Thomas L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Recommended (and commendable) Vendors Date: 21 Aug 1996 19:28:17 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <4vfo0h$lrk@news.iastate.edu> References: <dknox-1208961624480001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <3213EE6E.BCD@ibm.net> <Dw8wo1.KtI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca In <Dw8wo1.KtI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote: > In article <3213EE6E.BCD@ibm.net>, Steve Haynes <shaynes@ibm.net> wrote: > > > >Hear him hear him. > > > >I too have purchased from each of the above establishments and can only > >say that each has gone far beyond the call of duty to help me with > >various hardware needs. > > > > Yep. > I bought my cube from Sam at Spherical almost three years ago. Worked as > advertised, although it didn't come with the 40MB swap disk he had promised. I > emailed him about it and he sent it out right away. > I haven't bought anything from the other vendors, but have had email contact > with them and they've always been pleasant and helpful. > I would echo the good comments about Sam. Have had several dealings with him over the years, and each and every one has been handled in a competent and professional manner. His prices might be a little higher than surfing marketplace, but if you need something unusual, or want to put together a non-standard configuration, he has all the stuff and the knowledge to make it work. Similarly, have heard nothing but positives abouts the other folks mentioned. TLM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (M. Roehr) Subject: SEARCHING FOR A CABLE FOR MULTISYNC-MNITORS FOR BLACK Message-ID: <DwByzn.Ju@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 11:09:23 GMT Hey, for my black color-station I m searching for an adaptercable which allows to use other multisync-monitors. Is there any chance to get one? Thanks for help and hints Manfred -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de PHONE/FAX: +49 431 73 45 39 NeXT-mail welcome NeXT Club Schwerte - next-club-schwerte@vergil.ping.de
From: "Hasssan N. Kelley" <hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: gnu tar and tcsh, Anyone? Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:58:00 -0400 Organization: SSNet -- Public Internet Access in Delaware! Message-ID: <321B9478.71C7@blackstar.ssnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have gnu tar and tcsh binaries for NEXTSTEP? I can't get the sources to build. While I'm at it, does anyone have a stable gcc port. Hassan
From: Mark.A.Tarbell@jpl.nasa.gov Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can a TurboColor NeXTstation take 128 MB of RAM? Date: 21 Aug 1996 16:56:49 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA Message-ID: <4vff4h$i5s@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <4v2c44$10c4@news.doit.wisc.edu> <4v9p39$42i@news1.1stnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: barry@subsurface.com In <4v9p39$42i@news1.1stnet.com> barry@subsurface.com wrote, in part: > I'm using 128mb on my non-adb color turbo. I bought 4-32mb 60ns simms > - so I could use them in something else later :-). Sorry to rain on your parade, but there's a board-level SIMM speed sense circuit in NextStation Colors and Turbos which senses the presence of 70ns SIMMs only. This is because the memory controller in these machines can run at either 70ns or 100ns only. This means that using 60ns SIMMs (or any non-70ns SIMM) will cause the memory controller to run at the default 100ns timing because it doesn't detect all-70ns SIMMs present. Mark
From: Michael Lavell <M.MGM@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Best 15&17 in monitors ? Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:12:10 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <321BEC2A.4A32@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello there; Anyone knows of an areticle evaluating best monitors on the market ? (in terms of effect on vision and degree of radiation) Thank you very much Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199608220219.WAA13560@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 22:19:16 -0400 Subject: Warning Re: NeXT LP (BW): streak in middle of page Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com FYI: I would not suggest the use of KleenLaser sheets for the NeXT Laser printer. It actually made the problem I was having worse. Just one man's experiences. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Need help with NeXT formatting Jaz ASAP Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960821233544.14863A-100000@charisma> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 23:41:03 -0400 References: <4vflc3$ok7@gollum.kingston.net> To: John Warkentin <jpf_wark@adan.kingston.net> In-Reply-To: <4vflc3$ok7@gollum.kingston.net> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, John Warkentin wrote: > I checked the group but my server doesn't keep the news long enough to > ever find the answers! Send an email to: digestif@antigone.com with a body of 'help' and nothing else (no .sig!) That way you can get the news via email. Or go to the Stepwise site, they keep a nice set of the posts around in a really nice format. > That said, can someone please show me how to NeXT format Jaz media > under 3.3 black. I've tried to format command in the Workspace but it > only lets me Mac format the disks. The first line should be all one line, and then the next lines are indented iomega jaz|iomega jaz 1GB|iomega jaz 1GB G.60|iomega jaz 1GB G.6002/1:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1021:nt#64:ns#32:ss#512:rm#5394:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:\ :pa#0:sa#2045952:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#8:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: YMMV, use at your own risk, etc etc etc TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey
From: hal@sims.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP LaserJet 5 MP on Intel running NeXTstep Date: 22 Aug 1996 03:55:00 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <4vglmk$qo0@agate.berkeley.edu> I'm trying to get my Intel machine to print to a HP LaserJet 5 MP. I've tried the HPLaserJet 4 MP printer configuration and the JP LaserJet 4 with PostScript but with no success. I'm using the parallel port. Any ideas? -- Hal Varian, Dean voice: 510-642-9980 SIMS, 102 South Hall fax: 510-642-5814 University of California hal@sims.berkeley.edu Berkeley, CA 94720-4600 http://www.sims.berkeley.edu/~hal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: gnu tar and tcsh, Anyone? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960821234142.14863B-100000@charisma> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 23:48:24 -0400 References: <321B9478.71C7@blackstar.ssnet.com> To: "Hasssan N. Kelley" <hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com> In-Reply-To: <321B9478.71C7@blackstar.ssnet.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Hasssan N. Kelley wrote: > Does anyone have gnu tar and tcsh binaries for NEXTSTEP? I can't get > the sources to build. While I'm at it, does anyone have a stable gcc > port. ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/tcsh-v6.06.NI.b.tar.gz gnutar should be on the machine, 3.2 or later (maybe earlier?) If not, let me know... I got gcc 2.5.8 to compile without any errors. TjL
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAZ formatting (did you try 'sdform' ?) Date: 21 Aug 1996 18:39:02 -0600 Organization: Computing Research Lab/New Mexico State University Sender: zhao@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu Message-ID: <yegg25gtfq1.fsf_-_@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> References: <4v26ka$cs1@news1.ucsd.edu> <mycroft-1808961815060001@mycroft.vip.best.com> <3218BB8E.41C6@fa.disney.com> In-reply-to: Tal Lancaster's message of Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:07:58 -0700 I used sdform /dev/rsd2h n to make ZIP disk NEXTSTEP-formatted, then initialize it. Can we do this with Jaz? I would like to try, but I don't have a Jaz drive. zhao
From: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 32 MB -> 96 MB ==>> 10% slowdown Date: 22 Aug 1996 13:11:02 GMT Organization: University of Regensburg, Germany Message-ID: <4vhm96$h0q@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> References: <4vf132$nrl@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> In article <4vf132$nrl@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) writes: > Lee Altenberg wrote in comp.sys.next.hardware: > > > > I just added 64 MB (2 x 32MB) 60ns EDO DRAM to my Micron P133 > > Millenia Plus Pentium system running NEXTSTEP 3.3 with 32 MB > > (2 X 16MB) 70ns EDO DRAM, for a total of 96 MB. The system > > now runs about 10% slower with memory I/O intensive benchmarks > > (e.g. NXFactor 2.0, from 3.02 to 2.75). Why would this be? > > > > The SIMMS are from The Chip Merchant. They are IBM brand DRAM. I > > read on the Net that if you go over 32 MB RAM, you have to > > increase the cache from 256K to 512K, otherwise the additional > > RAM isn't cached. I wonder if that is what is going on? Is > > AFAIK, this depends NOT on the size of the cache, but on the chipset > in your motherboard. Triton chipsets f.e. are unable to cache more > than 64MB of RAM. That' true, but certain chipsets organize the cache (tag) differently depending on the size of the cache, so this _sometimes_ depends on the size of the cache. Wolfgang -- Dipl.-Wirtsch.Inf. Voice: +49 941 943 3205 Wolfgang Roeckelein Fax: +49 941 943 4986 Uni Regensburg E-Mail: roeckelein@wi.whu-koblenz.de Universitaetsstr. 31 Wolfgang.Roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de D-93053 Regensburg (MIME and NeXTmail ok) Germany WWW: http://www.whu-koblenz.de/~wolfgang/
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 5 MP on Intel running NeXTstep Date: 22 Aug 1996 13:13:15 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <4vhmdb$imh@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <4vglmk$qo0@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <4vglmk$qo0@agate.berkeley.edu> hal@sims.berkeley.edu writes: > I'm trying to get my Intel machine to print to a > HP LaserJet 5 MP. I've tried the HPLaserJet 4 MP > printer configuration and the JP LaserJet 4 with PostScript > but with no success. I'm using the parallel port. You need the HP LaserJet 5MP ppd file available from one of the NEXTSTEP archives (I got mine at next-ftp.peak.org). We have several the they work fine. -- Rex Dieter Computer System Manager Department of Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.pens,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Sender: ACoder@infoave.net (ACoder) Date: 22 Aug 1996 09:33:44 EDT Control: cancel <4ve11k$h7a@news1.sunbelt.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <4ve11k$h7a@news1.sunbelt.net> Message-ID: <cancel.4ve11k$h7a@news1.sunbelt.net> Spam/MMF cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was Great Shareware
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PCI network card for OS4 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:54:31 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960822165252.7431A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <4vesu3$1g3@news.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4vesu3$1g3@news.tuwien.ac.at> On 21 Aug 1996, Khanh P. Nguyen wrote: > Hi all, > > We got a new machine here to install OpenStep 4.0, but the machine was > equiped with a 3COM PCI 3C590 ethernet card (10MBps). There is no driver Are you really referring the 3C590, or the 3C509. There is a driver available, all these cards are named 3COM EtherLink III and the driver is named EtherLink3 Hope this helps, Boerny. P.S.: you might take a deeper look into NeXTanswers and search for '3COM'.
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 32 MB -> 96 MB ==>> 10% slowdown Date: 22 Aug 1996 15:14:41 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <4vhth1$kos@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <4vectk$p5r@news.duke.edu> In-Reply-To: <4vectk$p5r@news.duke.edu> On 08/20/96, Lee Altenberg wrote: >I just added 64 MB (2 x 32MB) 60ns EDO DRAM to my Micron P133 >Millenia Plus Pentium system running NEXTSTEP 3.3 with 32 MB >(2 X 16MB) 70ns EDO DRAM, for a total of 96 MB. The system >now runs about 10% slower with memory I/O intensive benchmarks >(e.g. NXFactor 2.0, from 3.02 to 2.75). Why would this be? I've just had exactly the same experience when going from 32 MB to 64. My motherboard is an ASUS P55TTP4N. The system used to have an NXBench 2.0 NXFactor of about 2.6. After upgrading the CPU from 133 to 166 and adding 32 MB of RAM, the NXFactor dropped to 2.1! The system is still plenty fast, and I have much less swapping with multiple tasks running, but it'd be nice to see the I/O benchmarks at least as good as they were before. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OmniPentiumPro + audio = crash Date: 22 Aug 1996 15:57:22 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <4vi012$2hl@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <960821115838.242AAFcE.magnus@darwin> In article <960821115838.242AAFcE.magnus@darwin> magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) writes: > Hi, > > I recently upgraded a 90MHz P5 system to a 200MHz P6 by moving most > components and ran into an annoying problem, the most serious symptom of > which is that the machine crashes (hard) when I play long sounds (or > repeated short ones) with the OmniPentiumProDriver installed. This driver [...] What board do you use ? My collegue Marcel had system hangs/crashes when playing any audio on his PPro 200 with the OmniPentiumPro Driver active. He has a ASUS board with Natoma chips and the problem vanished after upgrading the BIOS to the newest version available from ASUS, V2.01 (nd6i0201.zip). Just if you have the same board ... Detlev BTW: Did anyone notice that P6 processors are reported to be 486s by hostconfig ? :-) > Processor: I386 (Intel 486) -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Email:droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: embuck@palmer.cca.rockwell.com (Erik M. Buck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PCI network card for OS4 Date: 22 Aug 1996 16:28:23 GMT Organization: Rockwell Avionics - Collins Distribution: world Message-ID: <4vi1r7$gr4@castor.cca.rockwell.com> References: <4vesu3$1g3@news.tuwien.ac.at> Cc: knguyen@callisto.nt.tuwien.ac.at In <4vesu3$1g3@news.tuwien.ac.at> Khanh P. Nguyen wrote: OS4.0 for MACH had no problem with our COGENT PCI ethernet card. We purchased them from BiFrost. the Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 PCI cards manufactured within the last few months CAN NOT be used with NextStep! NeXT tried to fix the driver but it still does NOT work. Our Matrox cards have all worked well. (both 2Mb and 4Mb) A lot of cheaper 17" monitors have flaky sync controls. With the same card, resolution, frequency, and monitor, we sometimes get "CAN NOT SYNC" and sometimes it works fine. I blame the monitors. Fortunately, this does not happen often and a re-boot or two usually fixes it. > Hi all, > > We got a new machine here to install OpenStep 4.0, but the machine was > equiped with a 3COM PCI 3C590 ethernet card (10MBps). There is no driver > for this card in the CD as well as from NextAnswer. So we planned to > change it for another PCI ethernet card. We would like to ask the > opinion of all who have used a PCI ethernet card (we think that there is > only 4.0 driver for Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 PCI). Please share your > experiences with us. > We have also another problem with the MatroxMilennium card (2M of ram). > Sometimes after rebooting and switching to hiresolution (1200x1000 & > 1150x860), the monitor cut the video signal automatically with an alarm > message that its H- and V- frequency is too high (for ex: > H-freq=160-->200KHz!!). The same machine with another Matrox card works > just fine. Have anyone had such a problem with a Matrox card. We'd like > to make sure before returning the card back to the seller. > Thanks very much, > > Khanh Nguyen, > (Vienna University of Technology) >
From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TEAC-6x SCSI CD-ROM with NS3.3 ... Date: 22 Aug 1996 18:12:07 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <4vi7tn$jd6@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> Hi, I am having problems with TEAC CD-56S 6x SCSI CD-ROM drive ... I am trying to install NextStep 3.3 on Intel Pentium 133. I have SCSI Adaptec 2940UW PCI Controller, Quantom-ATLAS 3250W 8ms 2.1 GB Ultra-Wide SCSI Hard drive, and TEAC - 6x SCSI CD-ROM drive. while installing I used Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Adapter (v 3.37) (DEv:19 Func:0 BUS: 0) The boot-up looks something like this .... bla-bla-bla . . Resetting SCSI Bus ... Registering: a2940_0 at 0x6100 Registering: sc0 at a2940_0 SCSI Bus 0 Target 7 sd0: IBM DORS-32160W WA0A Registering: sd0 at Target 0 LUN 0 at sc0 Registering: sd0a sd0: No Valid Disk Label sd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes sd0: Device Capacity: 2063MB Registering: sg0 at sc0 Registering: sg1 at sc0 Registering: sg2 at sc0 Registering: sg3 at sc0 Registering: event0 Registering: kmDevice0 No CD-ROM drive found ???????????????? use sd%d, hd%d, fd%d, en%d or tr%d I will be grateful for any hints or suggestions .... Sanjeev Agarwal Intelligent Systems Center, University of Missouri, Rolla USA.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: OmniPentiumPro + audio = crash Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <960822142619.203AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <960821115838.242AAFcE.magnus@darwin> <4vi012$2hl@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 19:26:19 GMT > From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) > Subject: Re: OmniPentiumPro + audio = crash > Date: 22 Aug 1996 15:57:22 GMT > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > > In article <960821115838.242AAFcE.magnus@darwin> magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu > (Magnus Nordborg) writes: > > Hi, > > > > I recently upgraded a 90MHz P5 system to a 200MHz P6 by moving most > > components and ran into an annoying problem, the most serious symptom of > > which is that the machine crashes (hard) when I play long sounds (or > > repeated short ones) with the OmniPentiumProDriver installed. This driver > [...] > > What board do you use ? My collegue Marcel had system hangs/crashes > when playing any audio on his PPro 200 with the OmniPentiumPro Driver > active. He has a ASUS board with Natoma chips and the problem vanished > after upgrading the BIOS to the newest version available from ASUS, > V2.01 (nd6i0201.zip). Just if you have the same board ... > > Detlev Progress! Thanks for the suggestion; I do indeed have an ASUS P/I-XP6NP5 motherboard with Natoma (440FX) chipset, and downloading the latest BIOS (nx6i0103.zip) has the effect that a) sound works better, b) sound no longer crashes the system when the OmniPentiumProDriver is loaded. Unfortunately, the OmniPentiumProDriver now causes the system to crash during boot (just before starting Workspace) with messages: Aug 22 13:50:38 darwin reboot: Reboot complete Aug 22 13:50:43 darwin mach: vidBIOS: emu486 error 0200ff89 before 3020:6877 Aug 22 13:50:43 darwin mach: vidBIOS: eax=00004f02 ebx=00000209 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 Aug 22 13:50:43 darwin mach: vidBIOS: esi=00000000 edi=00000000 ebp=00000000 esp=00001ff8 Aug 22 13:50:43 darwin mach: vidBIOS: ds=0000 es=0000 fs=0000 gs=0000 ss=1c00 Aug 22 13:50:43 darwin mach: Display0: BIOS mode change returned 4f02 I can load the OmniPentiumProDriver when the system is up, I just cannot boot. Furthermore, when I reboot the system, the "Restarting the system" panel fails to come up; something crashes instead. Any suggestions? Thanks, -Magnus > BTW: > Did anyone notice that P6 processors are reported to be 486s > by hostconfig ? :-) > > Processor: I386 (Intel 486) Yes :)
From: Tim Triemstra <empath@a.crl.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: S3 conflict with new motherboards Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:08:55 -0400 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Message-ID: <321CB047.4503@a.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There was a thread (one I can't find now) that was talking about the problems some of us have using new computers, especially Dell XPS P1XXs systems, when they try to go into graphics mode. The solution that worked for me was to put the graphics card drivers (in my case Motion 771) in the /private/Drivers/i386/Name.config directory and installing using those drivers from the very beginning. This got me through the install process. However, there is still the issue of shutting down. is there a way to make it so that the shutdown is possible without locking up the computer? So far I've had to "Disable Power Off" to prevent that from happening, allowing a shutdown only with the ALT-NUMLOCK and "R"estart. Not a good way to handle things will inexperienced users sitting at the computer. Any ideas? -- Tim Triemstra ... empath@a.crl.com
From: bihkrch@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Raymond Chu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 32 MB -> 96 MB ==>> 10% slowdown Date: 22 Aug 1996 15:43:40 -0500 Organization: Educational Computing Network Message-ID: <4vigps$jgs@ecom3.ecn.bgu.edu> References: <4vectk$p5r@news.duke.edu> <4vf132$nrl@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) writes: Is this true for all Triton chisets or only trun for Triton I? Will I have the same problem with a triton II chip? Thanks eric echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com >AFAIK, this depends NOT on the size of the cache, but on the chipset >in your motherboard. Triton chipsets f.e. are unable to cache more >than 64MB of RAM. >> there anything you can do about it? I don't think I can upgrade >> my cache. Can a modified BIOS fix it, to better use the cache? >> Micron uses the Micronic P54Hi motherboard, 256 K SyncBurst cache, >> 70ns Micron DRAM. >> >> Has this issue come up among PC users? >> >> Any info is welcome. >Stay with 64MB, accept the 10% performance loss or exchange your MB. >> >======================================================================= >> Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. > Volker >--- > Volker Safran, Berlin, Germany ___________________________________ > --- / Phone: +49 30 45482196 (private) > volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de / +49 30 45058062 (at work) > vsafran@ukrv.de (at work) / FAX : +49 30 45482198 (private) >______________________________/ +49 30 45058904 (at work)
From: ŸŸŸŸŸúlŸŸŸŸŸrubsamen@pro-audio.freinet.de (Marcus Rübsamen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can a TurboColor NeXTstation take 128 MB of RAM? Date: 22 Aug 1996 18:44:30 GMT Organization: pro audio Message-ID: <4vi9qe$9sh@pro-audio.freinet.de> References: <4v2c44$10c4@news.doit.wisc.edu> <4v9p39$42i@news1.1stnet.com> <4vff4h$i5s@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> >Sorry to rain on your parade, but there's a board-level SIMM speed sense >circuit in NextStation Colors and Turbos which senses the presence of 70ns >SIMMs only. This is because the memory controller in these machines can run >at either 70ns or 100ns only. > >This means that using 60ns SIMMs (or any non-70ns SIMM) will cause the memory >controller to run at the default 100ns timing because it doesn't detect >all-70ns SIMMs present. This is not true! I have 60 ns SIMMS and they get recognized right! As far as I know, the computer just doesn't get any faster anymore. - Marcus -- pro audio Vertriebsfirma Merzhauser Strasse 149 D-79100 Freiburg Tel: +49 (761) 45700 -10 Fax: +49 (761) 45700 -12 e_mail: rubsamen@pro-audio.freinet.de (NeXTmail & MIME welcome) www: http://www.freinet.de/pro_audio
From: dougm@Glue.umd.edu (Doug Mules) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <4vd6gf$sgp@mojo.eng.umd.edu> Control: cancel <4vd6gf$sgp@mojo.eng.umd.edu> Date: 22 Aug 1996 17:20:17 GMT Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <4vi4sh$slj@mojo.eng.umd.edu> Hand Cancelled by William Kupersanin 301-405-0044
From: bork@nextstepper.twt.com (michael borchardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Buying a PC (Intel - PentiumPro or Cyrix 6x86) Date: 22 Aug 1996 22:02:03 GMT Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. The Wisconsin ISP 414-476-4266 http://www.inc.net Message-ID: <4vilcr$s32@news.inc.net> I'm looking to buy a PC and 17" monotor at a cost under $3,000 and need to run both NextStep and Windows 95 . What is the best system ? Pentuim, Pentium Pro , Cyrix 6x86 , ... ??? Does Cyrix have problems running NextStep? Mike
From: par@mcs.net (Peter A. Richardson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Buying a PC (Intel - PentiumPro or Cyrix 6x86) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 22:53:47 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <4vioev$gor@Nntp1.mcs.net> References: <4vilcr$s32@news.inc.net> bork@nextstepper.twt.com (michael borchardt) wrote: >I'm looking to buy a PC and 17" monotor at a cost under $3,000 and need to >run both NextStep and Windows 95 . What is the best system ? Pentuim, >Pentium Pro , Cyrix 6x86 , ... ??? Does Cyrix have problems running >NextStep? Because you want to run Windows 95 rather than Windows NT, the Cyrix may be a better choice. I, however dislike and have had problem with the Cyrix in the past with some compatability issues. I would look for a Pentium Pro if you can run NT, and the Pentium 200 if you must run Windows 95. I have a Pentium Pro system set up to run NeXT, Windows NT and DOS 6. The big problem of using Windows NT instead of Windows 95 is that under NT nothing is allowed to access the hardware directly. This means most of the new games won't run under NT. They can't get to the video or sound directly and so won't run. That is the only reason that there is a DOS 6 boot. Peter Richardson
From: Sean Russell <ser@javalab.uoregon.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Faxing doesn't work. Is it hardware, or NS? Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:39:12 -0700 Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <321CEFA0.37E8@javalab.uoregon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo folks, I'm running NS3.3 on an Intel P5 that has a 28.8 Hayes compatible modem in it. The modem is also a 14.4 fax modem. The modem has always functioned rather well for me, and I've been using it to connect via PPP first to my university and now to an ISP for the past two years. Recently I installed the modem as a fax modem and attempted some faxes. Since I had no idea what the difference was between the two fax modem types (H-something and Interfax) I chose the first option and gave it a spin. The modem would dial that target fax machine nicely and then begin the 1-per-second peeping that faxes do when waiting for a connection. When the target fax answered and peeped, the fax modem turned off the speaker (as I told it to) at which point I assumed the connection was good. However, according to the queue, the job would stay "Printing" forever. I later learned that soon after connecting, the target fax would disconnect without receiving anything more than the header (not the cover sheet, but the source info). As for my fax modem, it blissfully continues hissing away, apparantly unaware that it has been disconnected. The job never completes. I also tried deleting the fax modem entry and reinstalling it as an "Interfax" modem. Same deal. My question is twofold: is the problem in my modem card or in my NS configuration, and how do I fix it. The only thing that comes to mind as being a potential source is the fact that I have ghostscript and ghostHP so that I can print to my non-PS printer. This required (as anyone who has done it knows) tweaking some of the network configuration files so that jobs are piped through ghostscript. I'll appreciate any help or pointers, and forgive me if I've asked a FAQ. -- Sean Russell Software Engineer ser@javalab.uoregon.edu Department of Physics http://jersey.uoregon.edu/ser University of Oregon "Even the Mongols rejected Communism... are we more dumb?" --- Russian newspaper headline supporting Yeltzin's 1996 campaign
From: Glenn Brown <glenn@myri.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI Tape drives for NeXT hardware? Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:46:50 -0700 Organization: Myricom, Inc. Message-ID: <321CFF7A.41C67EA6@myri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any body have experience connection SCSI tape drives to NeXTstation Turbos running NS3.3 (or similar configurations)? I got a HP Colorado 4000s Traven drive, but cannot do anything useful with it on my NeXT: I get I/O errors when I try. The 4000s is a 512byte fixed-block size SCSI2 drive. I have lots of SCSI experience, and am absolutely certain that I am not having SCSI termination problems of SCSI ID conflicts. Thanks for any suggestions or info, --Glenn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Faxing doesn't work. Is it hardware, or NS? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960822231044.697A-100000@charisma> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 23:14:39 -0400 References: <321CEFA0.37E8@javalab.uoregon.edu> To: Sean Russell <ser@javalab.uoregon.edu> In-Reply-To: <321CEFA0.37E8@javalab.uoregon.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [This is actually a software issue, however I've followed up to the original (erroneous) newsgroups.] You want to get NXFax from Black and White Software, Co, which you can contact at: sales@bandw.com There you will meet Janice Kenyon who is quite nice and very helpful. The fax software on the NeXT is old and outdated, if it ever worked to begin with. TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Sean Russell wrote: > Hallo folks, > > I'm running NS3.3 on an Intel P5 that has a 28.8 Hayes compatible modem > in it. The modem is also a 14.4 fax modem. The modem has always > functioned rather well for me, and I've been using it to connect via PPP > first to my university and now to an ISP for the past two years. > > Recently I installed the modem as a fax modem and attempted some faxes. > Since I had no idea what the difference was between the two fax modem > types (H-something and Interfax) I chose the first option and gave it a > spin. > > The modem would dial that target fax machine nicely and then begin the > 1-per-second peeping that faxes do when waiting for a connection. When > the target fax answered and peeped, the fax modem turned off the speaker > (as I told it to) at which point I assumed the connection was good. > However, according to the queue, the job would stay "Printing" forever. > I later learned that soon after connecting, the target fax would > disconnect without receiving anything more than the header (not the > cover sheet, but the source info). As for my fax modem, it blissfully > continues hissing away, apparantly unaware that it has been > disconnected. The job never completes. > > I also tried deleting the fax modem entry and reinstalling it as an > "Interfax" modem. Same deal. > > My question is twofold: is the problem in my modem card or in my NS > configuration, and how do I fix it. > > The only thing that comes to mind as being a potential source is the > fact that I have ghostscript and ghostHP so that I can print to my > non-PS printer. This required (as anyone who has done it knows) > tweaking some of the network configuration files so that jobs are piped > through ghostscript. > > I'll appreciate any help or pointers, and forgive me if I've asked a > FAQ. > > -- > Sean Russell Software Engineer > ser@javalab.uoregon.edu Department of Physics > http://jersey.uoregon.edu/ser University of Oregon > > "Even the Mongols rejected Communism... are we more dumb?" > --- Russian newspaper headline supporting Yeltzin's 1996 campaign > > >
From: shess@tundra.winternet.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Some questions Re ASUS and Tyan Pentium motherboards Date: 22 Aug 1996 23:35:16 -0500 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@tundra.winternet.com Message-ID: <acu3tuafaz.fsf@tundra.winternet.com> I'm going to be building a Pentium box Real Soon Now, and was pondering tradeoffs, and worse, things that I don't know whether I'm making a tradeoff. Just for reference, this'll be a desktop system for development, on a personal network (I make _all_ the packets, here). Currently it will be a P5/133, but I plan to upgrade to a P5/200 next spring when they are cheap in their turn. [Don't tell me about your Pentium Pros. I already made _that_ decision :-).] Thus far, I've been looking mostly at Tyan and ASUS, due to good vibes from my research. Anyone want to weigh in with comments on which is the relative winner, speedwise? I think I've heard it both ways, Tyan keeping a slight edge. But I find Asus is pulling ahead due to the PCI-SC200 fast SCSI controller's price advantage. I've heard positive things about this controller, but was wondering if it sacrifices much speed compared to a Tyan with an Adaptec? [I'll have only one or two drives on it, plus a seldom-used CD-ROM and tape drive. And for now the drives _won't_ be 7200rpm monsters, either.] What's the _real_ difference between an ASUS P55TP4N and P55T2P4? The only difference I've noticed is that one costs around $20 less than the other. Otherwise, they appear to be identical in every way. Perhaps the cheaper one is newer? :-). The same question can pretty much be asked of the Tyan Tomcat I and Titan III. Other than price and simm slots (one has 6, the other 8), they seem pretty much the same. Is SDRAM for real? Is it worth paying a premium at this time to get a board that can take it in the future? If so, will it affect speed to mix SDRAM with EDO? [I've not seen 64M SDRAMs, and there's only one slot on the ASUS P55TVP4, I'm not certain about the Tyan Titan VX.] This all makes one's head spin. Oh for the days when you could get any machine you wanted, so long as it was black, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> (WWW to "http://www.winternet.com/~shess/") Work: 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <I want to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: More than 32 MB in NeXTstation Color? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DwJMnE.HJt@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:23:38 GMT References: <4va5l0$3ia@turbocat.turbocat.de> <DwF3ML.AJq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4vfedh$c8e@usenet.rpi.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <4vfedh$c8e@usenet.rpi.edu>, Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: >dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: >> David Wetzel <dave@turbocat.de> wrote: >> > Hello! >> > >> > Is it possible to use more than 32 MB in a NeXTstation color >> > when a new EPROM is used? > >> For a non-Turbo machine, no. > >Note: some non-Turbo machines do have the newer memory subsystem, >which can take the higher density SIMMs. I don't know if it's >true for this system, and I don't think the EPROM's have anything >to do with it, but one can't make the blanket statement that all >non-turbo machines are limited to 32meg. > That's true. Sometimes I talk about the "Turboid" machines incessently, and other times I completely forget about them. :) A quick way to tell is to open the machine and check what kind of SIMM sockets it has. If it has four 72-pin sockets, then it's a Turbo(id) and it can take up to 128MB. If it has eight 30-pin sockets, then it's a "regular" non-Turbo and it can take up to 32. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: robert@elastica.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Do I need a disktab entry here? Date: 23 Aug 1996 00:03:15 -0400 Organization: Digital Gateway Systems Sender: robert@justine Message-ID: <f20gy7nng.fsf@elastica.com> OK I've got a Quantum Atlas 4GIG drive hanging off my SCSI chain. it's drive 1 in an all SCSI chain. (SCSI ID 2) So, the drive currently has.. 512 NTFS 2048 Solaris x86 512 NTFS Free Space. I want to create a Next filesystem in Free Space. I could fdisk but disk -i doesn't accept /dev/rsd1d Do I have to use a disktab? If so, does anybody have an entry for a Quantum Atlas drive or know of _the_ program that gives you the disk characteristics from a probe. I think it's in the SCSI tools suite but it's been a while. -- Art is protistution of the mind.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Recommended (and commendable) Vendors Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DwJnAL.BMA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:37:32 GMT References: <dknox-1208961624480001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <3213EE6E.BCD@ibm.net> <Dw8wo1.KtI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4vfo0h$lrk@news.iastate.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <4vfo0h$lrk@news.iastate.edu>, Thomas L. Marchioro II <tlm@einstein.ams.ameslab.gov> wrote: > >I would echo the good comments about Sam. Have had several dealings with him >over the years, and each and every one has been handled in a competent and >professional manner. His prices might be a little higher than surfing >marketplace, but if you need something unusual, or want to put together a >non-standard configuration, he has all the stuff and the knowledge to make it >work. Similarly, have heard nothing but positives abouts the other folks >mentioned. > Although *no one* has Turbo Cube boards, I suppose not surprisingly. Except Decision One, and let's not talk about their prices... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Disktab for Quantum Atlas (34300) 4GB wanted Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:53:53 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960823093310.29409A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I'm looking for a disktab entry for the 4GB Quantum Atlas drive. I produced one by myself using the advices in NeXTanswers by Tacchi. Anyway disk is just tellinge me something like. bootsektor would overwrite disk label. I don't know why this is happening. BTW: Wasn't there a WWW server with disktab entries? I tried installing NEXTSTEP from scratch on this disk and things went fine (NEXTSTEP was telling me something about preparing sd0b) until the system rebooted and told me that there is only 5MB space left. This is where installation had to stop. After rebooting with my old harddrive and automounting only the first partition was mounted... Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Bernhard -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholzb@pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (BongOk Kim (kornet)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Grabis Ultra Sound Card Date: 23 Aug 1996 08:33:56 GMT Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <4vjqdk$rj7@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Hello, My friend has Grabis Ultra Sound Card. Is he get sound on the NEXTSTEP 3.3 or OPENSTEP for MACH? I hope someone can help me out. Thanks Form South Korea. ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai
From: vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 32 MB -> 96 MB ==>> 10% slowdown Date: 23 Aug 1996 09:20:41 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4vjt59$i78@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <4vectk$p5r@news.duke.edu> <4vf132$nrl@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <4vigps$jgs@ecom3.ecn.bgu.edu> Cc: bihkrch@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Raymond Chu schrieb in comp.sys.next.hardware: > > vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) writes: > > Is this true for all Triton chisets or only trun for Triton I? > Will I have the same problem with a triton II chip? > I don't know exactly, but I think so. Even with chipsets, that are able to cache more than 64MB of RAM, there is often a problem with the cache itself, beeing unable to work with big RAM-sizes. It's PC-market: Each cent less seems to count :-( For exact specifications, read the manual of your motherboard and the type of your cache-module. I really don't know the specials of all combinations of PC-Hardware. > Thanks > > eric echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com > > > AFAIK, this depends NOT on the size of the cache, but on the > > chipset in your motherboard. Triton chipsets f.e. are unable to > > cache more than 64MB of RAM. > > > > Volker > Volker --- Volker Safran, Berlin, Germany ___________________________________ --- / Phone: +49 30 45482196 (private) volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de / +49 30 45058062 (at work) vsafran@ukrv.de (at work) / FAX : +49 30 45482198 (private) ______________________________/ +49 30 45058904 (at work)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: aslater@jocko.bri.hp.com (Al Slater) Subject: Re: Need help with HP6400 DAT Sender: news@bri.hp.com (News User) Message-ID: <DwL4Gn.F58@bri.hp.com> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:45:58 GMT References: <1262.6804T1175T1782@mbox200.swipnet.se> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Johan Otterstrom (videoking@mbox200.swipnet.se) wrote: : Hi! : I have an HP 6400 DDS backup device. The problem is that it's supposed to : store 2GB uncompressed on a 90M DDS tape but I can only fit 945MB on one tape. : The firmware says HP35470A 7 09 Right. : The drive label says C1503-60001 on one place and C1503-66001 on another : place. I called HP support and they tell me this is an OEM HP device and they : can't help me with specs for the drive. Indeed. : I searched the net to find anything but couldn't find anything with the C1503 : numbers. The drive has 8 dip swithces. Does anyone have a similar drive and : knows how the dip's should be set?? What are they set at currently, or to the point -- have you got the first two dips in anything other than both on? Unfortunately, we don't do NeXT as an officially supported target so I can only guess. Given I've got a barely functional slab at home I'll suggest you start with 3 off and everything else on. I don't think there's anything I ever found in the way of specific tape driver config option lurking on the filesystem to tweak how the driver behaves (it does behave differently for Exabytes, this much is apparent). : The external casing clearly states 2000 and there doesn't seem to be any : hardwarecompression so it should be able to store 2GB uncompressed. : I've used both Ami-Back and Diavolo Pro with the same results. It depends how you are shovelling data at the drive -- is it obvious streaming, or is it stop/starting? Can you use tar/cpio of the same data and see if that makes a difference? Is it using fixed or variable blocksize mode? If you send data over in small blocks then it may be padding your data and you are losing capacity that way... Apologies this isn't terribly helpful.. cheers, al (not speaking for HP..)
From: bchristi@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Brent A. Christian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: AppleTalk and NS 3.2 Date: 22 Aug 1996 22:15:06 -0700 Organization: California Polytechnic State Hospital Message-ID: <4vjeoq$a15@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: @galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu NeXTSTEP 3.2 on Mono NeXTStation. It wants to be hooked up to my AppleTalk/EtherTalk network and I sure can't figure it out... Online SysAdmin docs seem to think its a cinch. There is reference to a couple of daemons in /usr/etc (atalkd and another one, I believe) that don't appear to be present. Couldn't find them on my old 3.0 disk either. Am I missing something ro forget to install something? I thought I did a thorough job. I've also had a pretty good look around peak, also to no avail. Can anyone help? Thanks... -- @}----;------ -Burnt
From: scollarw@cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: More than 128Meg In Turbo NextStation Colour? Date: 23 Aug 1996 16:03:58 GMT Organization: CADVision Message-ID: <4vkkpe$3k3s@elmo.cadvision.com> References: <4va5l0$3ia@turbocat.turbocat.de> <DwF3ML.AJq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4vfedh$c8e@usenet.rpi.edu> <DwJMnE.HJt@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <DwJMnE.HJt@novice.uwaterloo.ca> On 08/22/96, David Evans composed a News article about Re: More than 32 MB in NeXTstation Color?: >In article <4vfedh$c8e@usenet.rpi.edu>, > A quick way to tell is to open the machine and check what kind of SIMM >sockets it has. If it has four 72-pin sockets, then it's a Turbo(id) and it >can take up to 128MB. If it has eight 30-pin sockets, then it's a "regular" >non-Turbo and it can take up to 32. > OK Here's another question... assuming the Turbo(id) machine above, and the fact that there are 4 memory sockets, could 64Meg simms (if/when they are available) be used in each to provide up to 256 Meg? Or is there a hardware addressing "wall" that would be hit at more than 128Meg? -- Bill Scollard Calgary, Canada MotoGuzzi - California III || NeXT Turbo Colour Software AG - Natural || OmniWeb & the NET BackGammon / Poker / skiing || Marriage & Kids =====> What more could there possbibly be!<======
From: elillio@cube.cemi.unt.edu (Elainie Lillios) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: fax-modem problems Date: 23 Aug 1996 19:05:34 GMT Organization: University of North Texas Message-ID: <4vkvdu$gc1@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Hi: I'm not sure this is the right group to post to, but thought I'd share this problem nonetheless. My associate has a fax-modem hooked up to his NeXTstation (currently running NS 3.0, but upgrading to NS 3.2). He is having problems using the fax and modem interchangeably from the same serial port and would like some advice on how to fix this problem without having to physically reconnect from one serial port to the other. -- He's also unable to receive faxes, please see below.. Here's the info: The brand name and model is the Abaton InterFax 24/96 data modem. I can send faxes now with the NeXT PrintManager.app, having assigned the fax to Serial Port B in that application. I cannot yet receive faxes through that port or Port A: the modem doesn't answer incoming calls, as it should. With the Kermit application I can dial up through the data modem at 2400baud and successfully connect with my host server through Serial Port A. Thus, my main problem is the FAX receive protocol for port B. A secondary problem is having to change the hardware connection every time I want either to fax or email, respectively port B to A or vice versa. Any assistance or advice on this problem is sincerely appreicated! Please reply to: austin@sndart.cemi.unt.edu
From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help .... Date: 23 Aug 1996 19:03:00 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <4vkv94$dtt@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> Hi, I am having problems with TEAC CD-56S 6x SCSI CD-ROM drive ... I am trying to install NextStep 3.3 on Intel Pentium 133. I have SCSI Adaptec 2940UW PCI Controller, Quantom-ATLAS 3250W 8ms 2.1 GB Ultra-Wide SCSI Hard drive, and TEAC - 6x SCSI CD-ROM drive. while installing I used Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Adapter (v 3.37) (DEv:19 Func:0 BUS: 0) The boot-up looks something like this .... bla-bla-bla . . Resetting SCSI Bus ... Registering: a2940_0 at 0x6100 Registering: sc0 at a2940_0 SCSI Bus 0 Target 7 sd0: IBM DORS-32160W WA0A Registering: sd0 at Target 0 LUN 0 at sc0 Registering: sd0a sd0: No Valid Disk Label sd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes sd0: Device Capacity: 2063MB Registering: sg0 at sc0 Registering: sg1 at sc0 Registering: sg2 at sc0 Registering: sg3 at sc0 Registering: event0 Registering: kmDevice0 No CD-ROM drive found ???????????????? use sd%d, hd%d, fd%d, en%d or tr%d I will be grateful for any hints or suggestions .... Sanjeev Agarwal Intelligent Systems Center, University of Missouri, Rolla USA.
From: ACoder@infoave.net (ACoder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.pens,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon Subject: cmsg cancel <4ve11k$h7a@news1.sunbelt.net> Control: cancel <4ve11k$h7a@news1.sunbelt.net> Date: 23 Aug 1996 19:55:46 GMT Organization: Info Avenue INTERNET Access Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4vl2c2$8a8@news1.sunbelt.net> cancel
From: levenez@club-internet.fr (Eric Lévénez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI Tape drives for NeXT hardware? Date: 23 Aug 1996 21:10:33 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <4vl6o9$t16@speedy.grolier.fr> References: <321CFF7A.41C67EA6@myri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Glenn Brown <glenn@myri.com> wrote: > Any body have experience connection SCSI tape drives to NeXTstation > Turbos running NS3.3 (or similar configurations)? > > I got a HP Colorado 4000s Traven drive, but cannot do anything > useful with it on my NeXT: I get I/O errors when I try. The 4000s > is a 512byte fixed-block size SCSI2 drive. I am using an ARCHIVE VIPER 150MB (QIC 150MB). It works ok on a NeXTstation NS 3.3. I had try also a 250MB with success. With 3.2, I had to run a little program to configure /dev/rst0 to fix block size (MTIOCFIXBLK ioctl). But with NS 3.3, the system is going that by itself at boot time (stblocksize program). You must also disable SCSI parity, like every NeXTstation SCSI peripherals. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Randy Weinstein <rweinstein@monmouth.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: I need a printer recommendation Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 18:12:54 -0700 Organization: CyberComm Online Services Message-ID: <321E5716.1A8@raven.cybercomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am planning on purchasing a copy of NeXTStep for my IBM compatible computer within the next year. I need to purchase a printer now that will be used with OS/2 and Windows now and would be compatible with NeXTStep later. Are there any affordable (under $500) printers that would make a good choice? Thanks.
From: rakesh@arp.com (Rakesh Dubey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help .... Date: 23 Aug 1996 16:54:52 -0700 Organization: GRANITE Systems, Inc. Sender: rakesh@fountainhead.granite.com Message-ID: <wuiva9mzar.fsf@fountainhead.granite.com> References: <4vkv94$dtt@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> In-reply-to: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu's message of 23 Aug 1996 19:03:00 GMT To: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu In article <4vkv94$dtt@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) writes: > I am having problems with TEAC CD-56S 6x SCSI CD-ROM drive ... > > I am trying to install NextStep 3.3 on Intel Pentium 133. I have > SCSI Adaptec 2940UW PCI Controller, Quantom-ATLAS 3250W 8ms 2.1 > GB Ultra-Wide SCSI Hard drive, and TEAC - 6x SCSI CD-ROM drive. > > while installing I used Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Adapter (v 3.37) > (DEv:19 Func:0 BUS: 0) > > The boot-up looks something like this .... > > bla-bla-bla > . > . > Resetting SCSI Bus ... > Registering: a2940_0 at 0x6100 > Registering: sc0 at a2940_0 SCSI Bus 0 Target 7 > sd0: IBM DORS-32160W WA0A > Registering: sd0 at Target 0 LUN 0 at sc0 > Registering: sd0a > sd0: No Valid Disk Label > sd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes > sd0: Device Capacity: 2063MB > Registering: sg0 at sc0 > Registering: sg1 at sc0 > Registering: sg2 at sc0 > Registering: sg3 at sc0 > Registering: event0 > Registering: kmDevice0 > No CD-ROM drive found ???????????????? > use sd%d, hd%d, fd%d, en%d or tr%d The kernel did not find your CD-ROM device and that is what it is trying to tell you. Possible causes: (1) The CD-ROM is not connected properly (bad cables, flakey/improper termination, bad driver, drive not powered on) etc. The best way to check this is to either (a) enter Adaptec diagnostic mode (by typing Control-A or something like this) and see if it can find your CD-ROM drive, or (b) making sure some other OS is running successfully on this configuration. The first one is obviously easier. (2) This CD-ROM is not supported by NEXTSTEP because something is broken somewhere (firmware or driver). I doubt this is true. -Rakesh
From: Tito <talugtu@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Double Image on Mono Monitor Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:40:42 -0700 Organization: SLIPNET Message-ID: <321E79BA.6DFF@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PLEASE HELP: I'm getting double or overlapping images or text on my Mono Monitor ... how do i resolve it? thanks tito talugtu@slip.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.pens,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon From: le@put.com (Louis Epstein) Subject: Re: Great Shareware Distribution: inet Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.pens,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon Sender: usenet@news.put.com (The Root) Organization: Putnam Internet Services Message-ID: <DwLyLu.5nn@news.put.com> References: <4ve11k$h7a@news1.sunbelt.net> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:37:06 GMT ACoder (ACoder@infoave.net) wrote: : It's probably the best page on the net. Great Shareware programs written by a : totally disabled Vietnam veteran that will make you glad you went there. : Acoder's Cave is the site of MamSofCo's shareware programs. Programs on this : page are Win3.1 and Win95 compatible. Go to: http://www.mamsofco.com Well,I don't see what relevance this has to comp.sys.northstar, unless someone has found a way to make W*nd*ws run under Northstar DOS.
From: Tito <talugtu@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Overlapping Images Caused by Slab Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 07:33:43 -0700 Organization: SLIPNET Message-ID: <321F12C7.3F1@slip.net> References: <321E79BA.6DFF@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Last night, by process of elimination ... found out that the slab was causing the overlapping images on the monitor ... First, i replace the monitor w/ a working one ... distorted images still on. Second, i replace cable ... problem still exist. Third, i replace slab ... distorted images are gone, then i replace back the monitor ... monitor works fine. What's wrong w/ my slab? What's causing the overlapping or distorted images? What do i need to do? Any help is greatly appreciated. thanks tito talugtu@slip.net
From: mah@ka4ybr.netmha.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Recommended (and commendable) Vendors Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 23 Aug 1996 06:31:10 -0400 Organization: Mark Horton Associates Message-ID: <4vk19e$9p@ka4ybr.netmha.com> References: <dknox-1208961624480001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <3213EE6E.BCD@ibm.net> <4vfo0h$lrk@news.iastate.edu> Thomas L. Marchioro II (tlm@einstein.ams.ameslab.gov) wrote: : I would echo the good comments about Sam. Have had several dealings with him : over the years, and each and every one has been handled in a competent and : professional manner. His prices might be a little higher than surfing : marketplace, but if you need something unusual, or want to put together a : non-standard configuration, he has all the stuff and the knowledge to make it : work. Similarly, have heard nothing but positives abouts the other folks : mentioned. : TLM Hate to be a "me-too" type (like a lot of the AOLers.. :), but I also heartily agree with your comments about Sam... excellent knowledge and service... and pricing is pretty damn good considering you're dealing with someone who actually knows his product and is an enthusiast to boot!! An intangible, yes, but worth quite a bit in the cutthroat, money-is-everthing-customer-is-fodder attitude a lot of vendors display on the net these days! (or maybe I'm just showing my age as one of those "old-farts" from the old days before the yuppies discovered the net?) - mah --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Re: bus mice versus serial mice Message-ID: <DwnGGw.B21@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology References: <ac3f1kcpf1.fsf@parka.winternet.com> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 16:00:32 GMT In article <ac3f1kcpf1.fsf@parka.winternet.com> shess@parka.winternet.com (Scott Hess) writes: >I've got a logitech bus mouse on my i486 that's always worked >reasonably - but lately has started to develop glitches. >[Specifically, under NT it sometimes pauses/sticks as I drag >vertically.] Sooo, I'm thinking of upgrading that mouse. > I've installed and used serial mice using the new drivers (the old one was pretty bad) and I also have a bus mouse on my own workstation. I'd choose the bus mouse any day over the serial mice. Even after tweaking them out, the serial mice don't have the "feel" of being directly connected to your hand. The cursor seems like it is on a bit of a spring with respect to your hand. Also, you can still get Logitech bus mice. I just ordered one from ASA Computers in San Jose, and I also got a bid from ART Multimedia (two of my favorite silly valley suppliers). Sorry I don't have the numbers in front of me, but you can find them in computer shopper or MicroTimes. Thanks, Scott for all your great work in this community! Steven -- Steven M. Boker 804-295-8444 (voice/fax) 804-295-0009 (home) boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ Dept. of Psychology, University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA 22903 After 8/20 Dept. of Psych., U. of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fix External disk? Date: 24 Aug 1996 16:54:19 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <4vnc3r$4n4@cocoa.brown.edu> I have a SyQust EZ-135 at sd3. One of the cartages is damaged. The Console reports errors when the disk is inserted. The SCSI device icon never makes it to the dock. The disk is automatically ejected. Can anyone explain, in lay terms, how I can repair the disk. There is important information on it. Thank you, Andrew NeXTstation Turbo running NeXTstep 3.3
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Disktab for IBM 4gig disk? Message-ID: <Dwnot3.H48@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:00:39 GMT Anyone successfully installed one of the IBM 7200rpm 4 gig hard disks? The type comes back as "IBM OEM DFHSS4F REV 4141". I've tried constructing a disktab in the usual way using info from scsimodes, but something is a bit "different" about this drive. Yes, I was specifying 2 partitions, and the drive is formatted for 512 byte sectors, front porch 320 and back porch 0. Any clues? Thanks ever so, and a six pack of beets (did I say beer, I meant beets) to the friendly soul who comes to my rescue. Steven -- Steven M. Boker 804-295-8444 (voice/fax) 804-295-0009 (home) boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ Dept. of Psychology, University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA 22903 After 8/20 Dept. of Psych., U. of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556
From: andrew@inxpress.net (Andrew M. Priasmoro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color QuickCam Driver and Video Conferencing Softwares for NS-3.3 Intel? Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:25:43 -0400 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <andrew-2408961525430001@204.120.5.128> Hi, Does anyone know if there is a color QuickCam driver for NeXTStep 3.3 running on Intel architecture? Are there also any Video Conferencing and Video Capture softwares available for NeXTStep 3.3 running on Intel architecture that are compatible with color QuickCam camera? Thanks in advance. Andrew.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hans@onevision.de (Johann Adalbert Stoeger) Subject: Re: 32 MB -> 96 MB ==>> 10% slowdown Message-ID: <DwnCC0.9Lv@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <4vigps$jgs@ecom3.ecn.bgu.edu> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:31:12 GMT In article <4vigps$jgs@ecom3.ecn.bgu.edu> bihkrch@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Raymond Chu) writes: > vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) writes: > > > Is this true for all Triton chisets or only trun for Triton I? Will I > have the same problem with a triton II chip? > With the Triton 2 Chipset (FX, I do not know how the VX works...) it depends on the motherboard. Some boards save a few cents and cache only 64 MB, others cache 512 MB. You have to look for a 16 BIT TAG RAM > > >AFAIK, this depends NOT on the size of the cache, but on the chipset > >in your motherboard. Triton chipsets f.e. are unable to cache more > >than 64MB of RAM. > > >> there anything you can do about it? I don't think I can upgrade > >> my cache. Can a modified BIOS fix it, to better use the cache? > >> Micron uses the Micronic P54Hi motherboard, 256 K SyncBurst cache, > >> 70ns Micron DRAM. > >> > >> Has this issue come up among PC users? > >> > >> Any info is welcome. > > >Stay with 64MB, accept the 10% performance loss or exchange your MB. > > >> > >======================================================================= > >> Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. > > > Volker > > >--- > > Volker Safran, Berlin, Germany ___________________________________ > > --- / Phone: +49 30 45482196 (private) > > volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de / +49 30 45058062 (at work) > > vsafran@ukrv.de (at work) / FAX : +49 30 45482198 (private) > >______________________________/ +49 30 45058904 (at work) -- ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: More IBM 4gb disk woes... Message-ID: <Dwnz0M.10B@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 22:41:10 GMT Here is more info on the problem I'm having with an IBM 4 gigabyte drive: I've been trying to format, partition and newfs the drive from a turbo NeXTStation running 3.3. root@localhost/ # scismodes /dev/rsd1a SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: IBM OEM DFHSS4F 512 bytes per sector 135 sectors per track 16 tracks per cylinder 4392 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 37 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 8813869 usable sectors on volume I've constructed a disktab entry as follows (yes, I'm using tabs to indent): DFHSS4F|DFHSS4F-512|IBM OEM DFHSS4F:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#4392:nt#16:ns#135:ss#512:rm#7200:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#4194304:sb#4194304:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD: sdformat appears to be able to successfully low-level format the drive. However, root@localhost/ # disk -t DFHSS4F -l Grassmann_01 -h localhost -i /dev/rsd1a returns: disk name: DFHSS4F disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label ...r/w returned -1; expected 50176 Write of boot block 0 failed ...r/w returned -1; expected 50176 Write of boot block 1 failed No boot blocks on disk with lots of repetitions of the following in the console: ..... sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 9 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL Hmmm... says I, perhaps its a problem writing to the boot block. So I try root@localhost/ # disk /dev/rsd1a disk name: IBM OEM DFHSS4F disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Disk utility I ask myself, is the disktab getting written to the drive? Yes! disk> label label information: print, write? print current label information on disk: disk label version #3 disk label: Grassmann_01 disk name: DFHSS4F disk type: fixed_rw_scsi ncyls 4392 ntrack 16 nsect 133 rpm 7200 sector_size 512 front_porch 320 back_porch 0 ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_off 0 boot blocks: #1 at 64 #2 at 192 bootfile: sdmach host name: localhost root partition: a part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type a 0 4190400 8192 1024 32 4096 10% yes time no 4.3BSD b 4190400 4190400 8192 1024 32 4096 10% yes time no 4.3BSD Can I read from the drive? Yes! disk> read starting block? 0 # sectors per transfer? 16 number of transfers? 1000 sector increment? 16 8192000 bytes in 3917 ms = 2095140 bytes/s Well, now that wasn't so bad. It looks like things may be better than I thought. But now I try disk> write starting block? 0 # sectors per transfer? 16 number of transfers? 1000 sector increment? 16 random data? yes ...r/w returned -1; expected 8192 write: I/O error 0 bytes in 145 ms = 0 bytes/s and over in the console we have the familiar 9 retries of ..... sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 9 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL Anyone have a clue as to why this IBM disk isn't able to write? Other than the possibility that it's just a funky unit. It was QC'd before it was shipped to me and the signed QC slip says it was writing OK before UPS backed a truck over it... ;^) But really, if anyone knows a solution to this I'd be really happy to buy them a six pack of beets. (did I say beers? I meant beets) Steven -- Steven M. Boker (219) 631-4941 (office) (219) 631-8883 (fax) boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: I had to try it! Message-ID: <321FDE36.390A@my.home.address> From: Mitch <just_ask@my.home.address> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 23:01:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Sorry to post this to your newsgroup, but I had to try it! I read this and thought, "What could I lose?" Read through it and maybe you'll like to try it as well! But please be honest. That is how it works. "MAKE-MONEY-FAST" ----- Adapted article by Jody Vining (#4 below) ---------------- Want to make a few bucks? Quick, easy and cheap? Ok ok, we have all heard this before, laughed at it, thought it was stupid, so did I. But one day, I was bored, and wanted to see if this thing really works, the now infamous newsgroup "make-money-fast" routine. And well, to my surprise, it ACTUALLY WORKED. I didn't make $50,000 like some said, but I DID make $3,200 in 1 month. Thats not bad for a $5 investment! So now try it, maybe you'll make less, maybe you'll make more, but its worth a shot right? The procedure is very simple. STEP 1. Write your name and address on 5 separate pieces of paper with the words "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST". Fold a $1 note or money order or bank draft in each of the pieces of paper and mail them to the following five addresses: ---------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sahba Zadeh, 16115 122 Pl. NE, Bothell, WA 98011, USA 2. John England, 570 Vista Ave. Palo Alto, CA 94306, USA 3. Jeannette Bidegain, 2301 Redwood Street, #1406, Las Vegas, NV 89102,USA 4. Jody Vining, 987 Shetland Ave, Winter Springs, FL, 32708 5. Mitch Whiteley, 1026 N. 510 W. Apt. 4A, Logan, UT 84341 --------------------------------------------------------------- STEP 2. Now remove the 1st name on the list, move the other 4 names up (5 becomes 4, 4 becomes 3 etc) and put your name and address as number 5 on the list. You can do this by re-typing this article or simply editing and re-posting it in this or another newsgroup. STEP 3. Post your amended article to at least 200 new groups (there are 17 000 of them). You are now in the Mail Order Investment Business and you will start receiving $1 returns by mail within a week or two. The more newsgroups you post to, the bigger your return will be. You may want to rent a Post Office Box to handle the volume of mail you are likely to receive. If you wish to remain anonymous, you can use a pseudonym such as "The Manager" or "The Investor", but make sure your address is correct! NOW LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SYSTEM WORKS! Of every 200 postings I made, I received an average of 5 replies, YES - ONLY 5, each with a $1 bill enclosed. You make $5 for every 200 postings WITH YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 5. Each person who sent you $1, now also makes let's say,only 200 additional postings WITH YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 4, i.e. 1000 postings. On average therefore, 50 people will send you $1 with your name at number 4. You make $50. Your 50 new agents make 200 posting each WITH YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 3 or 10 000 postings - average return 500 at $1 each is $500. They make 200 postings each WITH YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 2 = 100 000 postings = 5 000 returns at $1 each = $5 000. Finally, 5 000 people make 200 postings each WITH YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 1 and you get a return of $50 000 before you name drops off the list. AND THAT'S IF EVERYONE DOWN THE LINE ONLY MAKES 200 POSTINGS! Total income in one cycle = $55 500. From time to time, when your name is no longer on the list, you take the latest posting that is appearing in the newsgroups, SEND OUT ANOTHER $5 TO THE NAMES THAT ARE ON THE LIST, PUT YOUR NAME IN AT NUMBER 5 AND START POSTING AGAIN. Remember, 200 postings is only a guideline. The more you post, the greater the return. Let's review the reasons why you should do this: THE ONLY COST FACTORS ARE 5 STAMPS, 5 ENVELOPES, AND 5 $1 BILLS. Anyone can afford five dollars to put into such an effortless investment with SPECTACULAR RETURNS. Some people have said to me "What happens if the scheme is 'played out' and no one sends me any money"? Big deal! So you lose $5 - but what are the chances of that happening? Do you realise how many Internet Users there are? Do you realise how many times this scheme can be utilised over and over again - with COMPLETELY NEW people participating? There are not HUNDREDS, NOT EVEN THOUSANDS, BUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF NEW INTERNET USERS EVERY MONTH! Remember, read the instructions carefully and play FAIRLY...that's the only way this will work. Get a printout so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroup postings to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should be.
From: Frederic Vernier <Frederic.Vernier@imag.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SB 16 Value PnP under Nextstep Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:51:10 +0000 Organization: CLIPS IMAG IIHM team Message-ID: <3221B9DE.41C6@imag.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I'm a french student and i try to use a soundblaster 16 Value PnP on a Intel based Computer. Nextstep does not any sound. I've try 3.32 and 3.33 drivers, i also download EISA 3.33 drivers (with PnP option). The card is found, but the only sound i get is a clic on reseting hardware. If someone can help, please send e-mail or reply to this. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Frederic VERNIER : CLIPS-IMAG, Bat. B Bureau 204 Grenoble FRANCE _/ _/ Email : Frederic.Vernier@imag.fr : Accept NeXT mails _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: Eric Jenkinson <ejenkins@cswnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Stealth 64 support Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 03:13:47 -0500 Organization: Source Communications Message-ID: <32200B3B.359E@cswnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just reciently installed NEXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel platform. I have a P-133 with 80MB of ram. My graphics card is a Diamond Stealth64 Graphics 2001 Series PCI with 2MB of RAM. During the install I chose the driver for the Diamond Stealth 64 PCI (2MB Models). I can only get Black and White at 640x480. I have tried all the configurations given in configuration.app but nothing helped. Any suggestions Eric Jenkinson ejenkins@cswnet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199608251538.LAA07203@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 96 11:38:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Fix External disk? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) on 24 Aug 1996 wrote: > I have a SyQust EZ-135 at sd3. One of the cartages is damaged. The > Console reports errors when the disk is inserted. The SCSI device > icon never makes it to the dock. The disk is automatically ejected. The only drawback to auto-mounting/unmounting... > Can anyone explain, in lay terms, how I can repair the disk. There > is important information on it. Well, the first thing I would try is adding an entry to /etc/fstab (make a backup of the original, obviously) that points to the EZ, something like this: /dev/sd3a /EZ135 4.3 rw,noquota 0 1 (you might change "EZ135" to whatever the label was on the disk). I would logout, and go to the mini-monitor (command-command-~) and do 'halt'. When you get to the ROM monitor, insert the EZ135 disk, and type 'bsd' at the prompt (NeXT>). If I am right, this will boot the system, and run fsck on your EZ. Hopefully the errors can be fixed by fsck. When the boot is finished, I'd login as root (or login as yourself and 'su' to root) and see if the disk is fixed. If it isn't, I'd do: umount -v /EZ135 # or whatever name you made the mountpoint fsck -p /dev/rsd3a and see if that helps. Be sure to record any numbers (bad blocks, etc) that it gives. At this point I would hope that it had been fixed by this process and everything was fine. I might read 'man reasb' if I got a report of bad blocks and try to reassign them. Please note that these are my ideas, and although I've dealt with my EZ and had some success, I can't guarantee anything. Others might come up with different and better approaches. If I can be any help, feel free to email me. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AppleTalk and NS 3.2 Date: 25 Aug 1996 12:53:26 GMT Organization: frazer.com Message-ID: <jbf-2508960853570001@news.tiac.net> References: <4vjeoq$a15@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> In article <4vjeoq$a15@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu>, Burnt A. Christian <burnt@ppp110.callamer.com> wrote: > NeXTSTEP 3.2 on Mono NeXTStation. It wants to be hooked up to my > AppleTalk/EtherTalk network and I sure can't figure it out... > > Online SysAdmin docs seem to think its a cinch. There is reference > to a couple of daemons in /usr/etc (atalkd and another one, I believe) that > don't appear to be present. Couldn't find them on my old 3.0 disk either. Look for an AppleTalk package on that old 3.0 disk - it's there. It can be installed with the 3.0 installer - the current installer leaves out the two daemons, so it won't work. It does make the Macs visible in /Net, and their directories can be mounted, but the dialog for unmounting them doesn't seem to work. Barney
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: TEAC-6x SCSI CD-ROM with NS3.3 ... Date: 25 Aug 1996 09:42:19 -0400 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <4vpl7r$8bs@papoose.quick.com> References: <4vi7tn$jd6@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> In article <4vi7tn$jd6@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu>, Sanjeev Agarwal <sanjeev@ee.umr.edu> wrote: > >Hi, > I am having problems with TEAC CD-56S 6x SCSI CD-ROM drive ... > >I am trying to install NextStep 3.3 on Intel Pentium 133. I have >SCSI Adaptec 2940UW PCI Controller, Quantom-ATLAS 3250W 8ms 2.1 >GB Ultra-Wide SCSI Hard drive, and TEAC - 6x SCSI CD-ROM drive. > >while installing I used Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Adapter (v 3.37) >(DEv:19 Func:0 BUS: 0) It could be a termination problem. Make sure that both the Quantum and the Teac have termination junmpers installed. Also step through the Adaptec configuration software during boot (via ^A). Play with the termination settings on the board. Also make sure sync negotiation is turned off for external devices. You don't state what your SCSI IDs are set to. Try setting your CD to ID 4. I had no problems installing with: 2940UW 4GB Quantum Wide Teac CD-56S -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can a TurboColor NeXTstation take 128 MB of RAM? Date: 26 Aug 1996 20:27:54 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4vt1ca$4ev@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4v2c44$10c4@news.doit.wisc.edu> <4v9p39$42i@news1.1stnet.com> <4vff4h$i5s@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> <4vi9qe$9sh@pro-audio.freinet.de> <4vslgn$3ns@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark.A.Tarbell@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: > In <4vi9qe$9sh@pro-audio.freinet.de> Marcus Rþbsamen wrote, in part: > > This is not true! > > This is curious. But because 8x32x70ns SIMMs are so rare these > days, I hope you're right! :) They didn't seem rare to me. I just called up Chip Merchant, asked for 32meg 72-pin 70ns memory, and they sent them. I installed them just last week (5am Saturday morning), and it's working fine. The 60ns are only about $1 more expensive than the 70ns, but the 70ns seem to be in supply. > > I have 60 ns SIMMS and they get recognized right! > > I hope I'm wrong, but I don't believe 60ns SIMM pin sense > configurations had been defined by the time NeXT was cranking > out its last 70ns color turbos. If true, I think it could be a > fluke that some 60ns SIMMs are being recognized as 70ns on some > boards. But there must be more to this than meets the eye... In my case, the two 32-meg 70ns SIMMs were replacing two 16-meg 60ns SIMMs, and in my case the 60ns SIMMs *were not* treated as 70ns SIMMs. I remember that when I installed the 60ns SIMMs, the machine seemed to slow down a bit (but that was more than made up for because I wasn't swapping so much). Replacing the 60ns with 70ns seems to have sped things back up again. It'd not a dramatic speed difference, but it's enough to "feel". No actual objective benchmarks were done by me, though. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: lutzray@9bit.qc.ca (Raymond Lutz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What kind of monitor video input/connectors for NeXT Hardware? Date: 26 Aug 1996 21:31:02 GMT Organization: SPC Message-ID: <4vt52m$akj@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> Yes, I've read the faqs, and the PigTail web page at ComputerActive (for those insecure with a soldering iron in hand 8^). I know which monitor to buy (probably a NOKIA 447Xi) but I'm puzzled by the video signals requirement... The Color NeXTstation and NeXTdimension video output are RGB with horizontal and vertical synchronization signals on the green (called sync on green). With that in mind, I try to read the specs, without any luck. Hence this post. From the NOKIA 447X last year specs: Video connectors VGA connector MAC-Adapter Synchronization Separate synchronization Composite synchronization Synchronization on green This seemed OK for the electronics, but probably needed some soldering work since no BNC connectors are mentioned (are MACs RGB sync on green?). But this year specs page shows for the NOKIA 447Xi: CONNECTORS Fixed signal cable with 15 pin male D-type with DDC 1/2AB signals, Access.bus SYNCHRONIZATION Separate TTL, positive/negative Composite TTL, positive/negative No more mention of "Synchronization on green"... Does that mean I can't use it? Thanx for any light shed on this, RL refs: <A HREF= " http://www.computeractive.on.ca/cAi/products/pigtail.html " > PigTail </A> <A HREF= " http://www.nokia.com/products/monitors/447xi.html " > NOKIA 447Xi data </A>
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More than 128Meg In Turbo NextStation Colour? Date: 26 Aug 1996 20:37:48 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4vt1us$4ev@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4va5l0$3ia@turbocat.turbocat.de> <DwF3ML.AJq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4vfedh$c8e@usenet.rpi.edu> <DwJMnE.HJt@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4vkkpe$3k3s@elmo.cadvision.com> scollarw@cadvision.com (guzzibill) wrote: > OK Here's another question... assuming the Turbo(id) machine > above, and the fact that there are 4 memory sockets, could 64Meg > simms (if/when they are available) be used in each to provide up > to 256 Meg? Or is there a hardware addressing "wall" that would > be hit at more than 128Meg? Every time this has come up, the answer has been that 128meg is the absolute limit. At the time the hardware was built, 128meg was a huge amount (and cost a huge amount, too!). If you can't survive in 128-meg, you'll need to get some other hardware box. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sorry: I had to try it! Message-ID: <3220B1F4.78A2@you.probably.already.know> From: Mitch <send@you.probably.already.know> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 14:05:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- I am really sorry about my SPAM. I didn't realize how wrong it was. Other's articles seemed convincing and legal, but I guess not. Please disregard posting: "I had to try it!" (delete it if your a system administrator). My mistake.
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Supra modems? Date: 27 Aug 1996 00:56:13 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <4vth3d$gdc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I'm trying to upgrade my modem to 28.8. I currently use Sam Perkins's PPP via kermit through a ZyXEL 14.4. Anybody had any luck, good or bad, with the Supra external modem? Thanks in advance. -- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
From: anon Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Running serial port at 115,200 baud Date: 25 Aug 1996 22:49:30 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <4vql9q$6v@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I have a serial peripheral that needs a 115,200 baud connection. I know the hardware on my Intel motherboard supports this baud rate, but the NeXT driver seems to have a top speed of 38,400 baud. Anybody know of a way around this problem? Thanks.
From: Sean Sun <sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What's the problem with ST51080N Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:54:51 -0700 Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <3220D9BA.41C67EA6@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, the Nxt-faq says that this drive (the seagate medalist, I believe), does not work with black hardware. What exactly is the problem? Isn't it SCSI-II and compatible with SCSI-I? Sean.
From: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More than 32 MB in NeXTstation Color? Date: 25 Aug 1996 21:03:17 +0200 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site - NOT Message-ID: <x7sp9bqoay.fsfarkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch> References: <4va5l0$3ia@turbocat.turbocat.de> <DwF3ML.AJq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4vfedh$c8e@usenet.rpi.edu> <DwJMnE.HJt@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In-reply-to: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca's message of Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:23:38 GMT To: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Originator: uucp@nice.ethz.ch Originator: news@nowhere.ethz.ch In article <DwJMnE.HJt@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > That's true. Sometimes I talk about the "Turboid" machines incessently, and > other times I completely forget about them. :) > A quick way to tell is to open the machine and check what kind of SIMM > sockets it has. If it has four 72-pin sockets, then it's a Turbo(id) and it > can take up to 128MB. If it has eight 30-pin sockets, then it's a "regular" > non-Turbo and it can take up to 32. ok, but what about those with eight 72-pin sockets like the color stations ? That's what the original poster and I would like to know :-) And can I break something by trying ? christian -- Christian Limpach, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. http://nice.ethz.ch/~chris --- System-Administration VIS/NiCE member of the managing board of VIS (http://www.vis.inf.ethz.ch/)
From: "P. Craig Nikolai" <cnikolai@iastate.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: QuickCam Win95 Install Disk... Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 18:20:53 -0500 Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <3220DFD4.1C0@iastate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help, I am in need of the Connectix QuickCam Install disk for Win 95. Can anyone zip it and send?? TIA
From: julku@ousw39.nmp.nokia.com (Mikko_Julku) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Buying a PC (Intel - PentiumPro or Cyrix 6x86) Date: 25 Aug 1996 14:17:46 GMT Organization: Nokia Mobile Phones Message-ID: <4vpnaa$bqr@nmp02.nmp.nokia.com> References: <4vilcr$s32@news.inc.net> michael borchardt (bork@nextstepper.twt.com) wrote: : I'm looking to buy a PC and 17" monotor at a cost under $3,000 and need to : run both NextStep and Windows 95 . What is the best system ? Pentuim, : Pentium Pro , Cyrix 6x86 , ... ??? Does Cyrix have problems running : NextStep? Cyrix has worse FPU than Pentium, but does anyone have NSFIP specific test results ? The display PS relies on FPU so the display performance with Cyrix 6x86 at same physical clock frequency (not the Pxxx as Cyrix uses) might be slower than Pentium's. : Mike Above opinnions are mine and do not represent the opinnions the company I am working for. Mikko Julku moj@iki.fi Greetings from Finland, the country of 187 888 lakes.
From: nextsale@ibgi.com (Edmund) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FOR SALE - 35 + NeXTstations Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 03:14:11 GMT Organization: Internet Business Group, Inc. Message-ID: <4vr1cn$1tp@swifty.cfa.org> Used but NOT ABUSED NeXTstations. Various configurations available. For more information please check out: http://ibgi.com/nextsale.htm or mailto:nextsale@ibgi.com Thank You.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OS4.0 from ATAPI CDROM to NT dirtied SCSI Message-ID: <322112E3.20FC@uwyo.edu> From: Earl Spillar <spillar@uwyo.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 20:58:43 -0600 Distribution: world Organization: University of Wyoming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI, I'm having problems installing 4.0 on a new Dell Dimension XPS Pentium Pro 200n- I am trying to use an ATAPI CDROM, and install onto the second partition of a SCSI hard drive with NT on the first partition. The SCSI controller is an adaptec 2940 Ultra-Wide. I follow the sequence for installing from the manual: I load the drivers from the driver disk, they load, the kernel boots, the CD-ROM and the Seagate 2G drive appear to be recoginzed correctly by the OpenStep loader: that is the adaptec is noticed and the 2Gdrive found during the boot phase, and appropriate device names and sizes like sdo with the right size scroll by. Stuff has loaded from the CDROM, but when I get to the "Select the Hard Disk You Want to Install OPENSTEP On" phase, it tells me there are not hard disks available to load it on. Any ideas? Can I blame it on NT? Thanks infinitely much for any hints you might have... Earl Spillar spillar@uwyo.edu http://plains.uwyo.edu/~spillar
From: Tito <talugtu@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Distorted Display on Station Turbo Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:56:48 -0700 Organization: SLIPNET Message-ID: <32211270.7E0F@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HELP!!!! My NeXT Station Turbo is causing the mono monitor to display distorted images ... I tried the monitor and cable to another machine, works fine. Connected a working monitor to my Station turbo, images are distorted. Anybody out their knows what's going on w/ my station? Pls help. Send info to talugtu@slip.net thanx tito
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199608260238.WAA00461@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 96 22:38:50 -0400 Subject: NeXTLP: Paper is jammed in the printer -- no it isn't !! Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Well, I put my printer back together after trying to clean it as best as I could, and went to print a test sheet only to be told "Paper is jammed in the printer, check paper path" Of course, there's no paper in there, it didn't even try to move even one sheet. My guess is that it thinks there is something in the path, but I don't know how to "correct" it. So far neither reasonable conversation nor extensive cussing have helped. Any clues/hints welcome. TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey
From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: EZ135 & NeXT ? Date: 27 Aug 1996 07:53:37 GMT Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands Message-ID: <4vu9i1$l9h@highway.leidenuniv.nl> Does anybody have any experience hooking up a SyQuest EZ135 to a NeXT (old mono slab)? It was recommended by my friendly neighbourhood ex-NeXT now-Mac outlet as a cheap backup solution. Greetings from Leiden, Geert Jan van Oldenborgh -- G.J. van Oldenborgh Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics, Leiden University email: gj@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl web: http://www-lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html
From: magic@interpath.com (Terry Cheek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CUBE OD failure - help! Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 15:03:14 GMT Organization: Interpath Message-ID: <4vscma$jip@redstone.interpath.net> The CuBE's Cannon Optical Disk attempts to spin up, hangs the workspace and leaves the following in /private/adm/messages: cube mach: od0?: drive command failed (not at speed) block 1 phys block -66384 (0:0:0) The info after "(not at speed)" varies with different disks and with different attempts with the same disk. Please email me with any suggestions for troubleshooting and I will summarize. Thanks. -Terry
From: Mark.A.Tarbell@jpl.nasa.gov Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can a TurboColor NeXTstation take 128 MB of RAM? Date: 26 Aug 1996 17:05:27 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA Message-ID: <4vslgn$3ns@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <4v2c44$10c4@news.doit.wisc.edu> <4v9p39$42i@news1.1stnet.com> <4vff4h$i5s@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> <4vi9qe$9sh@pro-audio.freinet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <4vi9qe$9sh@pro-audio.freinet.de> Marcus Rþbsamen wrote, in part: > This is not true! This is curious. But because 8x32x70ns SIMMs are so rare these days, I hope you're right! :) > I have 60 ns SIMMS and they get recognized right! I hope I'm wrong, but I don't believe 60ns SIMM pin sense configurations had been defined by the time NeXT was cranking out its last 70ns color turbos. If true, I think it could be a fluke that some 60ns SIMMs are being recognized as 70ns on some boards. But there must be more to this than meets the eye... > As far as I know, the computer just doesn't get any faster anymore. Just out of interest, what is your memory configuration and ROM level? Do you have only 60ns memory in your machine, or a mix of 60ns and 70ns? Is the 60ns in the low bank? What memory messages do you see when booting? Before I buy, I'd like to get to the bottom of this! Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Sender: Mitch <just_ask@my.home.address> Date: 27 Aug 1996 09:09:09 EDT Control: cancel <321FDE36.390A@my.home.address> Subject: cmsg cancel <321FDE36.390A@my.home.address> Message-ID: <cancel.321FDE36.390A@my.home.address> Spam/MMF cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was I had to try it!
From: Nick Potkay <npotkay@integ.micrognosis.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turbo slab powers up automatically? Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:14:21 -0400 Organization: CSK Micrognosis Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960827111346.799O-100000@cycle1> References: <4va01a$g75@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4va01a$g75@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> On 19 Aug 1996, Bruce Wayne Patton wrote: > I am thinking of buying a used turbo slab. The owner sent me > this message: > > We've just found out that the color slab has a slight probelm that it'll > turn itself on automatically everytime we turn it off, i.e. it cannot be > power-off. Otherwise, everything works fine. You can still of course > log-out. > > Is this something that is easy to fix or correct? Bruce, Well under preferences, you can specify a certain time for the machine to turn itself on. -Nick
From: Nick Potkay <npotkay@integ.micrognosis.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: SCSI Case (black) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:11:57 -0400 Organization: CSK Micrognosis Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960827111006.799N-100000@cycle1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Folks, I am looking for a SCSI Case Preferably of the color black. I need this case to hold (1) scsi cdrom (exposed), (1) 3.5inch Drive, AND/OR (1) Full size drive. Please mail me specs, prices, etc. -Nick
From: Nick Potkay <npotkay@integ.micrognosis.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Cube '040 25Mhz can't sense ethernet thinnet connection Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:19:31 -0400 Organization: CSK Micrognosis Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960827111614.799P-100000@cycle1> References: <1996Aug19.154402.3673@il.us.swissbank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1996Aug19.154402.3673@il.us.swissbank.com> On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Mike Trogni wrote: > when I type "rup" the /tmp/console.log says "Network interface is down" or > something like that. > > I'm sure all the settings were the same across machines according to > HostManager.app. I've tried ifconfig'ing the en0 interface up , ifconfig > reports the interface is UP anyway ? > > I've disabled PPP, because I suspected that this was messing up the routing, > but it still didn't fix the ethernet. this shouldnt have any effect if your your two machine are on the same network. ie: pc is 123.11.3.1, and next is 123.11.3.2, this should not have any effect on routing since there is no gateway. > I suspect that the ethernet port is non-functional. When I reboot it correctly > says "IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10Mb/s Ethernet". Is there > anyway I can check the functionality of the port ( with some diagnostic ifconfig en0 then ping the ip of the interface. > software, maybe) or is this the result of some mismanagement in the /etc/rc* > files ? > mike_trogni@swissbank.com btw- If you are just running a 10baseT cable from the ethernet on the pc to the NeXT, this will not work, you will need a "cross-over" cable. -Nick
From: mow@navigator.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: Adaptec 39xx and Nextstep? Date: 27 Aug 1996 15:13:31 GMT Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <4vv3ar$1q9@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Short question: Does the Adaptec 3940 (dual channel) or 3985 (RAID) controllers work with the Nextstep driver for the 2940 series? AFAIK, they use the same AIC controller chip, but they are not mentioned in NA #1760. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/
From: Andre LALONDE <tralala@mlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CUBE OD failure - help! Date: 26 Aug 1996 23:20:45 GMT Organization: Mlink Internet, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <4vtbgd$sev@neon.Mlink.NET> References: <4vscma$jip@redstone.interpath.net> In-Reply-To: <4vscma$jip@redstone.interpath.net> On 08/26/96, Terry Cheek wrote: >The CuBE's Cannon Optical Disk attempts to spin up, hangs the >workspace and leaves the following in /private/adm/messages: > >cube mach: od0?: drive command failed (not at speed) block 1 >phys block -66384 (0:0:0) > >The info after "(not at speed)" varies with different disks and >with different attempts with the same disk. > >Please email me with any suggestions for troubleshooting and >I will summarize. > >Thanks. > >-Terry > > > ============================= You need to clean the laser head. This has worked for me. Opening the OD casing is rather difficult to explain in writing. I'm sure you'll figure it out. -André
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Supra modems? Date: 27 Aug 1996 19:17:37 GMT Organization: Ames Laboratory Message-ID: <4vvhkh$pib@news.iastate.edu> References: <4vth3d$gdc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Cc: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Jon Haveman wrote: > I'm trying to upgrade my modem to 28.8. I currently use >Sam Perkins's PPP ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ???? Sam Perkins is a power forward/center for the Seattle Supersonics (my old team, from my old home town, which will be by new home town in one week!). Despite his smooth moves, long range jumper, and cool in the clutch, I do not think he is up to porting software packages to NeXTstep. Now *Steve Perkins* is another matter. wonderful PPP package, use it every day. Come to think of it, I've never met Steve face to face... perhaps he and Sam are related, perhaps even..... cue theme music from the X-files.... twins separated at birth! > via kermit through a ZyXEL 14.4. > > Anybody had any luck, good or bad, with the Supra external modem? Works perfectly every time for me, data/fax/PPP. I can send you my chat script if you like, but basically the only thing you need to do is to send an at&f2 to clear the settings. Hope this proves helpful --- Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779 Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and Sciences http://uces.ameslab.gov/
From: mtie@carleton.edu (Michael Tie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W - Problem installing with Date: 27 Aug 1996 16:20:42 GMT Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA Message-ID: <4vv78q$nld@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Hi Folks, I'm having trouble installing NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a Gateway P6 with an Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W (Bios v1.23) scsi adapter. I would really appreciate any advice that anyone can give. I have an internal scsi hard drive and an external scsi cd-rom drive. I have not changed any of the original "bios" settings on the scsi controller. The 2940 driver on the 3.3 drivers disk does not work with this scsi card, so I have downloaded the latest driver from NeXTAnswers, and it almost works. I removed the old driver from the drivers disk, and copied the new driver in; during the install I picked the new driver for the HD and CD, and everything works fine until it's time to "remove the floppy, reboot from the hard drive, and finish the install." During the reboot, I get the following message When you began installing NEXTSTEP, you loaded one or more device drivers that were not on the NEXTSTEP CD-ROM: Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Adapter (v3.37) Please insert the foloppy disk that contains one or more of these device drivers and type 1. Type 2 to continue without loading any of the device drivers in this list. I insert the 3.3 device driver disk, and I get the following error message: There are no suitable device drivers on this floppy disk. Please insert a new disk and press Return. If I select option 2, and boot with out loading device drivers, the machine can't find the hard drive. Following the instructions in NeXTAnswers note 1921 (I think that's the number), I created a second "beta driver disk", and with an original 3.3 drivers disk, I re-installed; when prompted about the HD and CD drivers, I used the driver on my beta driver disk; again, the install went fine until the reboot, and I'm stuck with the "no suitable device driver" message. During the first pass of the install, when it asks you to pick a driver for your HD and CD, it listed the new driver as Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Adapter (v3.37) (Dev:11 Func:0 Bus:0) which is not quite the same description that reboot asks for; is this related to the problem? What am I doing wrong? I'm so darn close... HELP! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael N. Tie mtie@carleton.edu Technical Associate wk phn: (507) 646-4067 Department of Math/CS fax: (507) 646-4312 Carleton College Northfield, MN 55057 (US) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: mtie@carleton.edu (Michael Tie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W - Problem installing with Date: 27 Aug 1996 16:21:52 GMT Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA Message-ID: <4vv7b0$ng4@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Hi Folks, I'm having trouble installing NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a Gateway P6 with an Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W (Bios v1.23) scsi adapter. I would really appreciate any advice that anyone can give. I have an internal scsi hard drive and an external scsi cd-rom drive. I have not changed any of the original "bios" settings on the scsi controller. The 2940 driver on the 3.3 drivers disk does not work with this scsi card, so I have downloaded the latest driver from NeXTAnswers, and it almost works. I removed the old driver from the drivers disk, and copied the new driver in; during the install I picked the new driver for the HD and CD, and everything works fine until it's time to "remove the floppy, reboot from the hard drive, and finish the install." During the reboot, I get the following message When you began installing NEXTSTEP, you loaded one or more device drivers that were not on the NEXTSTEP CD-ROM: Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Adapter (v3.37) Please insert the foloppy disk that contains one or more of these device drivers and type 1. Type 2 to continue without loading any of the device drivers in this list. I insert the 3.3 device driver disk, and I get the following error message: There are no suitable device drivers on this floppy disk. Please insert a new disk and press Return. If I select option 2, and boot with out loading device drivers, the machine can't find the hard drive. Following the instructions in NeXTAnswers note 1921 (I think that's the number), I created a second "beta driver disk", and with an original 3.3 drivers disk, I re-installed; when prompted about the HD and CD drivers, I used the driver on my beta driver disk; again, the install went fine until the reboot, and I'm stuck with the "no suitable device driver" message. During the first pass of the install, when it asks you to pick a driver for your HD and CD, it listed the new driver as Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Adapter (v3.37) (Dev:11 Func:0 Bus:0) which is not quite the same description that reboot asks for; is this related to the problem? What am I doing wrong? I'm so darn close... HELP! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael N. Tie mtie@carleton.edu Technical Associate wk phn: (507) 646-4067 Department of Math/CS fax: (507) 646-4312 Carleton College Northfield, MN 55057 (US) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: mtie@carleton.edu (Michael Tie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W - Problem installing with Date: 27 Aug 1996 16:26:30 GMT Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA Message-ID: <4vv7jm$n55@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Hi Folks, I'm having trouble installing NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a Gateway P6 with an Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W (Bios v1.23) scsi adapter. I would really appreciate any advice that anyone can give. I have an internal scsi hard drive and an external scsi cd-rom drive. I have not changed any of the original "bios" settings on the scsi controller. The 2940 driver on the 3.3 drivers disk does not work with this scsi card, so I have downloaded the latest driver from NeXTAnswers, and it almost works. I removed the old driver from the drivers disk, and copied the new driver in; during the install I picked the new driver for the HD and CD, and everything works fine until it's time to "remove the floppy, reboot from the hard drive, and finish the install." During the reboot, I get the following message When you began installing NEXTSTEP, you loaded one or more device drivers that were not on the NEXTSTEP CD-ROM: Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Adapter (v3.37) Please insert the foloppy disk that contains one or more of these device drivers and type 1. Type 2 to continue without loading any of the device drivers in this list. I insert the 3.3 device driver disk, and I get the following error message: There are no suitable device drivers on this floppy disk. Please insert a new disk and press Return. If I select option 2, and boot with out loading device drivers, the machine can't find the hard drive. Following the instructions in NeXTAnswers note 1921 (I think that's the number), I created a second "beta driver disk", and with an original 3.3 drivers disk, I re-installed; when prompted about the HD and CD drivers, I used the driver on my beta driver disk; again, the install went fine until the reboot, and I'm stuck with the "no suitable device driver" message. During the first pass of the install, when it asks you to pick a driver for your HD and CD, it listed the new driver as Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Adapter (v3.37) (Dev:11 Func:0 Bus:0) which is not quite the same description that reboot asks for; is this related to the problem? What am I doing wrong? I'm so darn close... HELP! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael N. Tie mtie@carleton.edu Technical Associate wk phn: (507) 646-4067 Department of Math/CS fax: (507) 646-4312 Carleton College Northfield, MN 55057 (US) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Zip drive problem Date: 27 Aug 1996 19:33:41 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4vviil$lqs@news.onramp.net> Got a SCSI Zip Drive for my NeXTstation and I can read the sip disk that came with the drive, but I can't write to it. (I get a "read-only" disk error) I don't see any write-protect setting on the disk. Steve
From: markm@winternet.com (Mark Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Supra modems? Date: 27 Aug 1996 17:41:55 GMT Organization: Winternet Corporation, Mpls, MN Message-ID: <4vvc13$5qn@blackice.winternet.com> References: <4vth3d$gdc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In article <4vth3d$gdc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, Jon Haveman <jon@mgmt.purdue.edu> wrote: >I'm trying to upgrade my modem to 28.8. I currently use Sam Perkins's PPP >via kermit through a ZyXEL 14.4. > >Anybody had any luck, good or bad, with the Supra external modem? Hi Jon, I have a SupraFAXModem 288 connected to my color NeXTstation and have not had any problems at all with the PPP package. Regards, -- Mark Miller | "The things that pass for knowledge I just markm@winternet.com | can't understand." - Steely Dan
From: ŸŸŸŸŸúlŸŸŸŸŸrubsamen@pro-audio.freinet.de (Marcus Rübsamen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can a TurboColor NeXTstation take 128 MB of RAM? Date: 27 Aug 1996 08:56:49 GMT Organization: pro audio Message-ID: <4vud8h$18g@pro-audio.freinet.de> References: <4v2c44$10c4@news.doit.wisc.edu> <4v9p39$42i@news1.1stnet.com> <4vff4h$i5s@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> <4vi9qe$9sh@pro-audio.freinet.de> <4vslgn$3ns@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> <4vt1ca$4ev@usenet.rpi.edu> >> > I have 60 ns SIMMS and they get recognized right! >> >> I hope I'm wrong, but I don't believe 60ns SIMM pin sense >> configurations had been defined by the time NeXT was cranking >> out its last 70ns color turbos. If true, I think it could be a >> fluke that some 60ns SIMMs are being recognized as 70ns on some >> boards. But there must be more to this than meets the eye... Again: While booting my TurboColor the boot monitor shows in its first line: "CPU MC 68040 33 MHz, memory 60nS". 60nS get recognized by my NeXT. I don't think, that it works any faster than with 70ns, but for sure my computer didn't get slower when I replaced my new 60 ns memory! -- pro audio Vertriebsfirma Merzhauser Strasse 149 D-79100 Freiburg Tel: +49 (761) 45700 -10 Fax: +49 (761) 45700 -12 e_mail: rubsamen@pro-audio.freinet.de (NeXTmail & MIME welcome) www: http://www.freinet.de/pro_audio
From: kris@news.synet.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W - Problem installing with Date: 27 Aug 1996 20:17:16 GMT Organization: Synet, Inc. Message-ID: <4vvl4c$f0b@garuda.synet.net> References: <4vv78q$nld@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Michael Tie (mtie@carleton.edu) wrote: > I'm having trouble installing NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a Gateway P6 with an Adaptec > 2940 Ultra/Ultra W (Bios v1.23) scsi adapter. I would really appreciate > any advice that anyone can give. I'm building a P6/200 for Don Yacktman using the 2940 UltraWide adapter, BIOS rev. 1.23. This BIOS rev seems to be incompatible with the OPENSTEP 4.0 Adaptec driver, as well as the 3.3 version. The symptom is despite recognizing the drive after posting the Adaptec driver, the system believes there is no hard disk installed in the machine. We've tried both the Quantum Atlas and the Quantum Fireball, so I'm mostly convinced it's not a disk incompatibility issue. Oddly enough, we've had nonlinear problems installing Windows NT 4.0--the installation failed the first two times I tried, but succeeded the third. ........................kris Kris Magnusson <emperor@planetary.net> !!! DON'T BITE THIS MONITOR !!!
From: don@misckit.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W - Problem installing with Date: 27 Aug 1996 18:47:53 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <4vvfsp$d4j@news.xmission.com> References: <4vv7jm$n55@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> mtie@carleton.edu (Michael Tie) wrote: > I'm having trouble installing NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a Gateway P6 with an Adaptec > 2940 Ultra/Ultra W (Bios v1.23) scsi adapter. I would really appreciate > any advice that anyone can give. I'm having a similar problem, but I can't get 4.0 (OPENSTEP) to install. With OPENSTEP, the driver is version 4.0 instead of 3.3's 3.37. My problem is that I get through much of the boot from the CD (I'm trying to do it off an EIDE CDROM--a Toshiba) but then it dies saying that there are *no* suitable disks to install on. This is strange because through the boot it finds the CDROM (of course) and then it lists the hard drive I've attached to the SCSI bus. Then there's more boot stuff, the screen clears, and you get to the part where you tell OPENSTEP which drive to install on and it says there are no drives at all, which is definitely not the case. It even saw the drive earlier on in the boot... so I've tried it on a Quantum 4GB wide drive (where I want the install to go) and on a Quantum 1GB plain vanilla Fireball, to see if itwas the drive that was being troublesome. It doesn't see either drive, so I suspect that the driver and the SCSI card aren't quite talking to each other. Is there a newer driver avaiable that works with the Adaptec 1.23 BIOS? Or do I have to get a card with an earlier rev like 1.21? By the way, if it matters, I'm trying to install PR3 of OPENSTEP, which I've been led to believe should be identical to the final release. But who knows; maybe that is significant. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I'm not out of ideas of things to try, but any help would certainly be, well, helpful! :-) So close and yet so far away... This gets annoying, too, since I've got real work I'm behind on, and I've already wasted a few days trying to get the damn thing to work. Ah, well, the joys of Intel hardware. :-( -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help .... Date: 27 Aug 1996 22:05:36 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <4vvrfg$ka4@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> Hi, I am having problems with installing Sound Blaster on my Pantium 133 running NextStep 3.3. I have Sound Blaster 3980/Awe 32. I can find Drivers for Sound Blaster 3980/Awe 16 in the CD-ROM as well as the NextAnsweres but could not find one for AWE 32. Could you guide me how I could get my Audio to work. Thanx ... Sanjeev UMR, USA
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W - Problem installing with Date: 27 Aug 1996 22:31:34 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <4vvt06$1fr@news4.digex.net> References: <4vv7jm$n55@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> <4vvfsp$d4j@news.xmission.com> don@misckit.com wrote: > I'm having a similar problem, but I can't get 4.0 (OPENSTEP) to install. With OPENSTEP, the driver is version 4.0 instead of 3.3's > 3.37. My problem is that I get through much of the boot from the CD (I'm trying to do it off an EIDE CDROM--a Toshiba) but then it dies saying that there are *no* suitable disks to install on. I had problems as well with 4.0 and the adaptec. And it was only during the CDROM install that was weird. So I used my old DPT to do the install, and then moved the drive back to the adaptec after everything was working. I'm not sure what it was, but version 3.37 of the driver seemed to work better as well? Now I'm using 4.0, but it was weird.... Oh well, I know that wasn't very helpful, sorry. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Re: Supra modems? Message-ID: <Dwtotr.L3z@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology References: <4vth3d$gdc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 00:46:38 GMT In article <4vth3d$gdc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes: >I'm trying to upgrade my modem to 28.8. I currently use Sam Perkins's PPP >via kermit through a ZyXEL 14.4. > >Anybody had any luck, good or bad, with the Supra external modem? > I've used both the Supra PnP (a bad experience, I returned it) and the Supra FaxModem. I'd highly recommend the Supra FaxModem. NXFax works with it. It seems to have a very nice auto-fallback mechanism. The mechanicals are sound and the display is informative. Steven -- Steven M. Boker (219) 631-4941 (office) (219) 631-8883 (fax) boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: NeXTLP: Paper is jammed in the printer -- no it isn't !! Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960827212512.29877A-100000@charisma> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:26:09 -0400 References: <199608260238.WAA00461@nerc.com> <32230162.D0@worldbank.org> To: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> In-Reply-To: <32230162.D0@worldbank.org> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I tried this, and it often works, but not this time.... It doesn't even attempt to draw any paper, just immediately says it is jammed.... I wonder if something (a sensor?) is blocked or something.... TjL On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, Stefano Pagiola wrote: > Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > Well, I put my printer back together after trying to clean it as > > best as I could, and went to print a test sheet only to be told > > "Paper is jammed in the printer, check paper path" > > Of course, there's no paper in there, it didn't even try to move > > even one sheet. > > My guess is that it thinks there is something in the path, but I > > don't know how to "correct" it. So far neither reasonable > > conversation nor extensive cussing have helped. > > Any clues/hints welcome. > > I think it uses the opening and closing of the printer cover as a signal that the > jam had been cleared. Try opening and closing it, and the problem may go away. > > Stefano > > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Supra modems? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960827212831.29877B-100000@charisma> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:33:02 -0400 References: <4vth3d$gdc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4vvc13$5qn@blackice.winternet.com> To: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu In-Reply-To: <4vvc13$5qn@blackice.winternet.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Aug 1996, Mark Miller wrote: > In article <4vth3d$gdc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, > Jon Haveman <jon@mgmt.purdue.edu> wrote: > >I'm trying to upgrade my modem to 28.8. I currently use Sam Perkins's PPP > >via kermit through a ZyXEL 14.4. > > > >Anybody had any luck, good or bad, with the Supra external modem? > > Hi Jon, > > I have a SupraFAXModem 288 connected to my color NeXTstation and > have not had any problems at all with the PPP package. I have not had any problems, in fact I greatly enjoy mine. It gives the current connection speed (ie 26400, 24000, etc) on the display. Here's an interesting post... I think I would have bought this modem if I had seen this post before I bought my modem: #begin From: Robert La Ferla <rdl@cais.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: modem Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:14:27 -0400 I have a very strong recommendation. The new Diamond Supra Sonic V336+. This has to be the most amazing modem I have ever seen. $250. Excellent data performance. Excellent fax performance. It's black. It has a 2-line illuminated LCD display which gives you real-time info on connection type and speed. Works with NXFax. It is voice capable and comes with a headset/mic. It even comes with telephony software for Windows and Mac. The modem firmware is flash upgradable. In fact, I bought the V.34 (28.8) version and downloaded a flash update from www.supra.com which instantly turned my modem into a 33.6 modem!!! An all-around winner in price/performance/features. Don't hesistate. Buy it. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP Consultant #end [note: the suprafaxmodem also works with NXFax. I got mine for $220 at Computer City..... please don't tell me where I could have found it for less ;-) ] TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Zip drive problem Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960827213411.29877C-100000@charisma> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:43:46 -0400 References: <4vviil$lqs@news.onramp.net> To: Steve Dekorte <dekorte@suite.com> In-Reply-To: <4vviil$lqs@news.onramp.net> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Aug 1996, Steve Dekorte wrote: > Got a SCSI Zip Drive for my NeXTstation and I can read the sip disk that > came with the drive, but I can't write to it. (I get a "read-only" disk > error) > I don't see any write-protect setting on the disk. Option #1) Return it to the store you bought it, and buy a SyQuest SCSI EZ135 for $120, which comes with a cartridge. The drive is faster than the ZIP and each cartridge holds 127 megs (formatted for NeXT). Cartridges are $20 each (same as ZIP) Option #2) Return it to the store you bought it, and buy a SyQuest EzFlyer for ~$300, each cartridge is $30 and holds 230 (preformmated, assume ~220 megs formatted for NeXT) which can read/write the 135 cartridges as well (note: SyQuest has finally gotten rid of the silly eject lever with this model... good riddance) Option #3) Try reformatting the disk which came with it (copy anything you want off of it first, obviously) TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W - Problem installing with Message-ID: <3223B0C7.13D6@uwyo.edu> From: Earl Spillar <spillar@uwyo.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 20:36:55 -0600 References: <4vv7jm$n55@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Distribution: world Organization: University of Wyoming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, This sounds identical to the problem I'm having. I posted it a couple of days ago, but here's a summary (no solution unfortunatly): New Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra, Seagate Wide 2GB hard drive, with working NT on the first partition Sony ATAPI CDROM- the drives seem to be recognized at first, but then the system reports no drives to load to. We seem to be using a wide variety of drives; so it starts to sound more like a controller (BIOS?) problem. Maybe I'll try to muck around in the card BIOS setup some more- Earl Spillar spillar@uwyo.edu http://plains.uwyo.edu/~spillar/
From: rencsok@channelu.com (Randall J. Rencsok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SEARCHING FOR A CABLE FOR MULTISYNC-MNITORS FOR BLACK Date: 28 Aug 1996 03:24:44 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <500e5s$u62@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <DwByzn.Ju@manki.toppoint.de> Cc: manroe@manki.toppoint.de In <DwByzn.Ju@manki.toppoint.de> M. Roehr wrote: > Hey, > > for my black color-station I m searching for an adaptercable which allows to use > other multisync-monitors. > Is there any chance to get one? > A sun 13W3 cable works fine for me. Might have to make sure of the gender though (I've tested mine on a ND system, not a turbo) Randy
From: rencsok@channelu.com (Randall J. Rencsok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More than 32 MB in NeXTstation Color? Date: 28 Aug 1996 04:06:58 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <500gl2$u62@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <4va5l0$3ia@turbocat.turbocat.de> <DwF3ML.AJq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4vff60$1mt0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In <4vff60$1mt0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudolf B Blazek wrote: > David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: > : In article <4va5l0$3ia@turbocat.turbocat.de>, > : David Wetzel <dave@turbocat.de> wrote: > : >Hello! > : > > : >Is it possible to use more than 32 MB in a NeXTstation color when a new EPROM > : >is used? > : > _ _ > : For a non-Turbo machine, no. > > Wasn't it possible for the last few series of NonTurbo machines which had a new > ROM? I think there was some info in the NeXTanswers or FAQ's which described a > procedure how to check your hardware. I think that it was the number of memory > sockets reported after issuing 'm' in the ROM monitor ... > > This is what all I remember, search the net for more ... Mike Paquette probably can give a definative answer, but I'll add my .02. In the Prom monitor you can type 'm' to get some info on the memory addresses that the sockets are located at. Depending on the results of this you should clearly be able to determine how much memory your machine can take. On my 25Mhz cube I have address range from 0x4000000 - 0x7fffffff (4 sockets @ addresses 0x4000000, 0x5000000, up to 0x7000000) which gives me 64MB addressable range. If you don't have simms in the banks I don't think you'll see the base address of the bank. But if you have simms in all your slots you'll see the base addresses, and using those one can deduce the maximum anount of memory (i.e. (base address bank 2 - base address bank 1) * number of banks = maximum amount of RAM.) I havn't checked a station for some time so I don't know what a turbo will report vs. a non turbo. Someone with a turbo can comment. I guess I'd expect address on the 25Mhz station to look like 2 sockets (0x4000000, 0x5000000), giving the addressable range of 0x4000000-0x5ffffff or 32MB, and on the turbo 2 sockets (0x4000000, and 0x8000000) giving addressable range from 0x4000000 - 0xbfffffff or 128MB. Also as a last comment. Even though the addressing bus is 32bit NeXT (at least in the early designs) set the single board addressable limit to 256MB (hence in cubes one could have multiple boards which have independant address space allocated in 256MB increments). So on your single boards you have to allocate addresses for ports, DMA, cache, ROM's, DSP, Ether, Floppy, Optical, SCSI, NLP, Video, etc. In the end all this other stuff for various reasons leaves available address space for free RAM between 0x4000000 and 0xbfffffff. Randy rencsok@channelu.com
From: rencsok@channelu.com (Randall J. Rencsok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More IBM 4gb disk woes... Date: 28 Aug 1996 04:22:16 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <500hho$u62@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <Dwnz0M.10B@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Cc: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu In <Dwnz0M.10B@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Steven M. Boker wrote: > Here is more info on the problem I'm having with an IBM 4 gigabyte drive: > I've been trying to format, partition and newfs the drive from a > turbo NeXTStation running 3.3. > > root@localhost/ # scismodes /dev/rsd1a > > SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a > Drive type: IBM OEM DFHSS4F > 512 bytes per sector > 135 sectors per track > 16 tracks per cylinder > 4392 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) > 37 spare sectors per cylinder > 0 alternate tracks per volume > 8813869 usable sectors on volume > > I've constructed a disktab entry as follows (yes, I'm using tabs to indent): > > DFHSS4F|DFHSS4F-512|IBM OEM DFHSS4F:\ > :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#4392:nt#16:ns#135:ss#512:rm#7200:\ > :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ try bp#512 (not sure you need ng, gs, ga, ao in there) This is what is probably causing the problem. > :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:ro=a:\ Hmmm. I have mine set to: rw=a:rw=b: But see on my other single partition drives set to ro=a: This should be ok I guess > :pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ > :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ > :pb#4194304:sb#4194304:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\ > :ib:tb=4.3BSD: > ... stuff deleted ... > Anyone have a clue as to why this IBM disk isn't able to write? Other than > the possibility that it's just a funky unit. It was QC'd before it was > shipped to me and the signed QC slip says it was writing OK before UPS > backed a truck over it... ;^) Well from my experience when the front and back porches arn't set up properly all kinds of strange errors can happen. Yours is one of the errors I've run across so I'd try the bp#512. Given the drive parameters are correct everything else should be ok. You have formated to 512B/sector I presume :) > > But really, if anyone knows a solution to this I'd be really happy to > buy them a six pack of beets. (did I say beers? I meant beets) My body seems to have an adversion to high carbonation, how about a liqueur? ;) Randy
From: rencsok@channelu.com (Randall J. Rencsok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Disktab for Quantum Atlas (34300) 4GB wanted Date: 28 Aug 1996 04:42:10 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <500in2$u62@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960823093310.29409A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Cc: scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de In <Pine.HPP.3.95.960823093310.29409A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Bernhard Scholz wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking for a disktab entry for the 4GB Quantum Atlas drive. I > produced one by myself using the advices in NeXTanswers by Tacchi. Anyway > disk is just tellinge me something like. bootsektor would overwrite disk > label. I don't know why this is happening. Here is mine: QUANTUM XP34300W:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#3832:nt#20:ns#134:ss#512:rm#7200:\ :fp#320:bp#512:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=ascended:rw=a:rw=b:\ :pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD\ :pb#4194304:sb#4194304:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#5:ob=time:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD:\ :pc#8388608:sc#10570:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#32:dc#4096:rc#5:oc=time:\ :ic:tc=4.3BSD: > > BTW: Wasn't there a WWW server with disktab entries? Yeah I've been wondering the same thing. But I'm getting pretty good at this ;) > > I tried installing NEXTSTEP from scratch on this disk and things went fine > (NEXTSTEP was telling me something about preparing sd0b) until the system > rebooted and told me that there is only 5MB space left. This is where > installation had to stop. I was not able to do this at all, at least on my cube. Are you using black or white? If you are using black hardware I have to wonder whether you have a turbo or not. I didn't even get as far as you did with my Cube..! > > After rebooting with my old harddrive and automounting only the first > partition was mounted... Well what I finally did was to use a second disk (an optical will work fine here) do a clean install of the OS on it. Then add the above entry in /etc/disktab and do a builddisk on the Quantum. Then reboot off the Quantum and finish your installs. Oh and make sure you add an entry to /etc/fstab if you want the other partitions mounted at boot time. Mine looks like this /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd1a /Quantum1 4.3 rw,noquota 1 2 /dev/sd1b /Quantum2 4.3 rw,noquota 2 3 /dev/sd1c /Quantum3 4.3 rw,noquota 3 4 Where sd0a is my boot disk. Yours probably will look like /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota 0 1 /dev/sd0b /Quantum1 4.3 rw,noquota 1 2 /dev/sd0c /Quantum2 4.3 rw,noquota 2 3 (do ya want 5M?) I don't know if you care but at least on my 25Mhz 040 Cube I can't use daydream v2.11 on my 4G drive (even with the kernal, and HD files on sd0a). Perhaps this will work on a Turbo.. Randy
From: Patrique Lalonde <pat@sim.qc.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Iomega Jazz drive Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 23:41:23 -0400 Organization: Omnilogic Message-ID: <3223BFE3.3CDA@sim.qc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour all, Is there any problems using an Iomega Jazz drive under NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? Will it read DOS/MAC formatted cartridges? Thanks. Please send replies to: pat@sim.qc.ca (I can't always read the newsgroups.)
From: don@misckit.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W - Problem installing with Date: 28 Aug 1996 05:34:25 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <500lp1$d4j@news.xmission.com> References: <4vv7jm$n55@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> <3223B0C7.13D6@uwyo.edu> Earl Spillar <spillar@uwyo.edu> wrote: > This sounds identical to the problem I'm having. I posted it > a couple of days ago, but here's a summary (no solution > unfortunatly): > > New Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra, > Seagate Wide 2GB hard drive, with working NT on the first partition > Sony ATAPI CDROM- > > the drives seem to be recognized at first, but then > the system reports no drives to load to. This is _exactly_ my problem. It spots the drives while booting, but then when it goes to list the startup disk, it can't find anything. It assigned sd0 to the CDROM and sd1 to the hard drive, which is as it should be. > We seem to be using a wide variety of drives; so it starts > to sound more like a controller (BIOS?) problem. For reference, my CDROM is an ATAPI Toshiba CDROM and the SCSI drives I've tried are: Quantum Atlas XP34300W 4GB Quantum Fireball 1GB (don't rembmer the model #) The 1GB drive worked fine for installing on my black hardware, so there's no reason why it shouldn't work on the PC. My Adaptec is a 2940UW (ultra-wide) and I've also tried a stock 2940 (not ultra, not wide) both with BIOS rev 1.23. Neither one works--same problem. Checking NeXT's web site, it would appear that the 1.21 BIOS is OK, but our 1.23 BIOS must be enough different to confuse the driver when it gets to trying to determine the startup disk. > Maybe I'll try to muck around in the card BIOS setup some more- I've tried just about every BIOS setting I can imagine and nothing works as far as I can tell. Maybe finding a card with the 1.21 BIOS is the answer (except that I don't see myself having much luck at doing that). I've heard a report that if you can borrow another controller to do the install to your drive, then you'll be OK with the Adaptec after that. Supposedly, just during the install do things get this weird. So I'm going to try and track down and borrow another card from a friend and see if I can make *that* work. I'll report back if that works. At any rate, if anyone has any suggestions about how to solve this, there appear to be at least three of us that would be very grateful to know the "secret"! :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: kzin@arcadia.SJSU.EDU (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Non-Intel CPU's for Openstep/Intel? Date: 28 Aug 1996 06:15:47 GMT Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <500o6j$cg9@nuke.csu.net> I've been contemplating upgrading my system to either a low-end pentium, or a high end AMD 486. Does anyone know if the AMD 486dx4/120 or 133 will work with Nextstep?
From: Rainer Frohnhöfer Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Non-Intel CPU's for Openstep/Intel? Date: 28 Aug 1996 08:02:09 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <500ue1$p9g@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <500o6j$cg9@nuke.csu.net> Keywords: CPU,amd,cyrix kzin@arcadia.SJSU.EDU (John Rudd) wrote: > > > I've been contemplating upgrading my system to either a low-end pentium, or a > high end AMD 486. Does anyone know if the AMD 486dx4/120 or 133 will work > with Nextstep? > > Hi, NS 3.3 and 4.0 worked fine with a Cyrix 486DX4/100 and AMD 486/133 so far. Note that your Board has to support the AMD. Apparently, mine doesn't really and runs it only at 100MHz. Looks like I wasted another $60 whith upgrading to the AMD. But it runs well, I never had any trouble. Hope this helped, -Rainer -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
From: ileslie@nmsu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ram placement Date: 27 Aug 96 17:01:31 Organization: New Mexico State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <ileslie.96Aug2717131@orack> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Keywords: RAM I have a NeXTstation Turbo with two 8 Meg simms. I want to buy a 32 Meg simm to add into my system. Can I do this and is the order that I put the simms in important. I note that NeXT did not include this information with their printed matter. Thanks, Ian leslie ileslie@nmsu.edu
From: thedrjay@aol.com (The Dr Jay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W - Problem installing with Date: 28 Aug 1996 06:15:26 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <50167u$4ab@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4vv78q$nld@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> I think that when you copied the new driver to the instalation disk is where you made your fatal error. As far as I can remember the you should have made a supplemental driver disk as in the instructions for the driver. My guess as to why your approach did not work is that when you first reboot form the hard drive and NextStep asks you to put in the disk with the driver it looks at the disk for some file to see if the disk is the original driver disk and if it finds this file it says no suitable driver found. Read the instuctions for the driver as on how to make an supplemental driver disk and try again I can’t grantee that your adaptec card will work but you should be able to get past this part of the installation.
From: abosse@next.com (Arno Bosse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turbo slab powers up automatically? Date: 28 Aug 1996 10:57:21 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5018mh$bc0@news.next.com> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960827111346.799O-100000@cycle1> Nick Potkay <npotkay@integ.micrognosis.com> writes > On 19 Aug 1996, Bruce Wayne Patton wrote: > > > I am thinking of buying a used turbo slab. The owner sent me > > this message: > > > > We've just found out that the color slab has a slight probelm that it'll > > turn itself on automatically everytime we turn it off, i.e. it cannot be > > power-off. Otherwise, everything works fine. You can still of course > > log-out. > > > > Is this something that is easy to fix or correct? > > Bruce, > > Well under preferences, you can specify a certain time for the machine to > turn itself on. > You need to do this as root. A normal user will not see the necessary preferences module. Arno Bosse
From: ŸŸŸŸŸúlŸŸŸŸŸrubsamen@pro-audio.freinet.de (Marcus Rübsamen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can a TurboColor NeXTstation take 128 MB of RAM? Date: 27 Aug 1996 19:48:52 GMT Organization: pro audio Message-ID: <4vvjf5$7do@pro-audio.freinet.de> References: <4v2c44$10c4@news.doit.wisc.edu> <4v9p39$42i@news1.1stnet.com> <4vff4h$i5s@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> <4vi9qe$9sh@pro-audio.freinet.de> <4vslgn$3ns@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> >Just out of interest, what is your memory configuration and ROM level? Do you >have only 60ns memory in your machine, or a mix of 60ns and 70ns? Is the 60ns >in the low bank? What memory messages do you see when booting? > >Before I buy, I'd like to get to the bottom of this! > >Mark > I just have 60 ns SIMMS and it works! I don't know my ROM Level. How can I find this out? By the way I have a Turbo Non ADB ColorStattion. -- pro audio Vertriebsfirma Merzhauser Strasse 149 D-79100 Freiburg Tel: +49 (761) 45700 -10 Fax: +49 (761) 45700 -12 e_mail: rubsamen@pro-audio.freinet.de (NeXTmail & MIME welcome) www: http://www.freinet.de/pro_audio
From: cdb@thoughtport.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Free Turbo NeXT to first taker Date: 28 Aug 1996 13:51:58 GMT Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc. Message-ID: <501itu$ecc@chinx10.thoughtport.net> References: <4vd6gf$sgp@mojo.eng.umd.edu> <4ve23m$3dlu@elmo.cadvision.com> Cc: scollarw@cadvision.com In <4ve23m$3dlu@elmo.cadvision.com> guzzibill wrote: > On 08/20/96, Doug Mules composed a News article about Free Turbo NeXT > to first taker: > >(301) 309-8774. Ask for Patrick. > > > This may or may nnot be a scam. the number is a line at Patrick M > Connolly Law Offices. I left a message at 10:00 pm MST on their > answering machine. > > For the cost of a long distance phone call...I will take the chance > that this is legit. (I am, after all a trusting soul) but my momma' > always said "you don' get nuttin fer nuttin!" > > I just called. secretary answered. patrick not in. she asked if it was something about a computer i was calling for. said it was a joke one of his friends was playing on him. ha-ha. save your long-distance $s. chris borden
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Supra modems? Date: 28 Aug 1996 13:48:15 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <501imv$mo@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <4vth3d$gdc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4vvhkh$pib@news.iastate.edu> tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) wrote: > Jon Haveman wrote: > > I'm trying to upgrade my modem to 28.8. I currently use > >Sam Perkins's PPP > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > ???? Sam Perkins is a power forward/center for the Seattle Supersonics > (my old team, from my old home town, which will be by new home town in > one week!). Despite his smooth moves, long range jumper, and cool in the > clutch, I do not think he is up to porting software packages to NeXTstep. Oops, sorry Steve. :) > > via kermit through a ZyXEL 14.4. > > > > Anybody had any luck, good or bad, with the Supra external modem? > > Works perfectly every time for me, data/fax/PPP. I can send you my chat > script if you like, but basically the only thing you need to do is to > send an at&f2 to clear the settings. > > Hope this proves helpful --- Tom I gave up on chat because I couldn't get it to work. It would be great if you could send the script. I've heard that it's more efficient than using kermit. Is that correct? Thanks much - Jon -- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
From: punch@cps.msu.edu (Bill Punch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Lost Boot sector adding win95 Date: 28 Aug 1996 15:56:10 GMT Organization: MSU GARAGe Sender: punch@ariel.cps.msu.edu (Dr William Punch) Message-ID: <501q6q$1mtg@msunews.cl.msu.edu> I have an Intel P590 with a 1 Gb drive partitioned into 75%NeXT and 25%DOS. Well, it was DOS, but I installed from scratch Win95 into the DOS partition. Now Win95 runs well but it no longer prompts me at boot time for the partition to start, and I can't start NeXT. Obviously, the Win95 install over-wrote the boot prompt. How can I re-install, get back the boot prompt. Thanks. -- Bill Punch punch@cps.msu.edu
From: jut@ukrv.de (J.-U. Thieme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lost Boot sector adding win95 Date: 28 Aug 1996 16:59:41 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <501ttt$blc@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <501q6q$1mtg@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Cc: punch@cps.msu.edu In <501q6q$1mtg@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Bill Punch wrote: > I have an Intel P590 with a 1 Gb drive partitioned into 75%NeXT and 25%DOS. Well, it > was DOS, but I installed from scratch Win95 into the DOS partition. Now Win95 runs > well but it no longer prompts me at boot time for the partition to start, and I > can't start NeXT. Obviously, the Win95 install over-wrote the boot prompt. How can I > re-install, get back the boot prompt. Thanks. > > 1.) Boot from the NeXT-Installfloppy 2.) use : disk -b "raw-device" , this command write a new bootsector on your drive. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.- U. Thieme - -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jut@ukrv.de or jut@rz.charite.hu-berlin.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 66127 - - fax: +49 30 450 66937 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - --------------------------------------------------------------
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Supra modems? Date: 28 Aug 1996 17:23:52 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <501vb8$esl@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <4vth3d$gdc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4vvc13$5qn@blackice.winternet.com> <Pine.NXT.3.95.960827212831.29877B-100000@charisma> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> wrote: > > >On 27 Aug 1996, Mark Miller wrote: >> > >> >Anybody had any luck, good or bad, with the Supra external modem? >> >> Hi Jon, >> >> I have a SupraFAXModem 288 connected to my color NeXTstation and >> have not had any problems at all with the PPP package. > > >I have not had any problems, in fact I greatly enjoy mine. It gives >the current connection speed (ie 26400, 24000, etc) on the display. > >Here's an interesting post... I think I would have bought this modem >if I had seen this post before I bought my modem: > > >#begin > From: Robert La Ferla <rdl@cais.com> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > Subject: Re: modem > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:14:27 -0400 > >I have a very strong recommendation. The new Diamond Supra Sonic >V336+. This has to be the most amazing modem I have ever seen. $250. >Excellent data performance. Excellent fax performance. It's black. >It has a 2-line illuminated LCD display which gives you real-time info >on connection type and speed. Works with NXFax. It is voice capable >and comes with a headset/mic. It even comes with telephony software >for Windows and Mac. The modem firmware is flash upgradable. In >fact, I bought the V.34 (28.8) version and downloaded a flash update >from www.supra.com which instantly turned my modem into a 33.6 >modem!!! An all-around winner in price/performance/features. Don't >hesistate. Buy it. > >Robert La Ferla >Registered OPENSTEP Consultant >#end > > >[note: the suprafaxmodem also works with NXFax. I got mine for $220 >at Computer City..... please don't tell me where I could have found it >for less ;-) ] > > I have had one bad experience with the Supra FAXmodem and NXFax. With the newer Flash ROMs, the manufacturer is given as Diamond Multimedia. This confuses NXFax and it will report "modem type: unknown" and will not enable the silent answer feature exclusively available for Supra fax/modems. The fix was to use an older version of the Flash ROM and not get the 33.6K capability. :( Ryan
From: moellney@michi.bota.uni-bonn.de (Michael Moellney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How fast is a NS/FIP (115.2 kbaud) Date: 28 Aug 1996 17:24:24 GMT Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <501vc8$1hd8@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> I'd like to connect a externel ISDN (ZyXEL Omni TA 128) adapter to my NS/FIP system. I'm somewhat worried about hearing that there might be problems, because ISDN is 64 kbaud and NS/FIP can provide only 57.6 kbaud. Shouldn't tha be 115,2 with a FIFO UART 16650 inside? Has anybody expereinces with that topic? Thanks for any help, michael
From: gtaylor@msn.fullfeed.com (Gregory Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Using that ol' Black Cube with a Jaz drive Date: 28 Aug 1996 13:23:06 -0500 Organization: FullFeed Communications (Internet +1.608.246.2701 info) Message-ID: <5022qa$8o9@fullfeed.msn.fullfeed.com> Good [insert time of day here]. I'm wondering if any of you have any experience with using a Jaz drive with Cubes/pizzaboxes/whate'er. I suppose that this may mean driver, or at least a disktab file. Let's do this one by email, and I'll collect and repost the advice I get in a single, easy-to-read-and-cogitate-upon posting. Thanks very much for your help, Gregory -- The arts are the field on which we place our own dreams, thoughts, and desires alongside those of others, so that solitudes can meet, to their joy sometimes, or to their surprise, and sometimes to their disgust.(R. Hughes) Gregory Taylor WORT-FM 89.9 Madison, Wisconsin http://www.msn.fullfeed.com/~gtaylor/RTQE.html
From: "John K. Troxell" <jktroxe@fpe.erenj.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Subject: Re: Some questions Re ASUS and Tyan Pentium motherboards Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:27:59 -0700 Organization: Exxon R&E, NJ; Opinions not those of the Company. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3224B9DF.718@fpe.erenj.com> References: <acu3tuafaz.fsf@tundra.winternet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott Hess wrote: > What's the _real_ difference between an ASUS P55TP4N and P55T2P4? > The only difference I've noticed is that one costs around $20 less > than the other. Otherwise, they appear to be identical in every > way. Perhaps the cheaper one is newer? :-). > I think the former might have a Triton 1 chipset while the latter has a Triton 2. > The same question can pretty much be asked of the Tyan Tomcat I > and Titan III. Other than price and simm slots (one has 6, the > other 8), they seem pretty much the same. > I think the former has a Triton 2 and the latter a Triton 1. I have a Titan III w/P133/256KPB/32MB60nsFPM running DOS/Win and NS 3.3. When I bought (May) I think the Triton 2 chipset was pretty new. Probably it is stable by now. It is supposed to be faster. My impression from reading comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips around that time was that ASUS had a great reputation but the deciding factor for me was that the Tyan had 5 ISA slots while ASUS had only 3. My main complaint about the Tyan is that changing the chipset settings for memory access doesn't seem to make any difference in eg. Norton benchmarks. I have them set to the fastest possible for FPM RAM anyway. This puzzles me. I have Award bios version 3.00. Also I tried to overclock the Pentium by changing jumpers per the manual but the but the MB just ignored the changes! Stange. I bought mine from Treasure Chest. ... > > This all makes one's head spin. Oh for the days when you could get > any machine you wanted, so long as it was black, and it was the mono slab ( $3250 was a fantastic deal but all we could afford ;-) Now I dream idly of adding a used color turbo just because I always wanted to have one. But the intel boxes have really slaked my thirst for color NS. I still remember the thrill of playing BoinkOut for the first time in 16-bit *color* on a 486/66 in May of '93.
From: rencsok@channelu.com (Randall J. Rencsok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTLP: Paper is jammed in the printer -- no it isn't !! Date: 28 Aug 1996 19:58:01 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5028c9$1jqd@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <199608260238.WAA00461@nerc.com> <32230162.D0@worldbank.org> <Pine.NXT.3.95.960827212512.29877A-100000@charisma> Cc: luomat@nerc.com In <Pine.NXT.3.95.960827212512.29877A-100000@charisma> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > > I tried this, and it often works, but not this time.... It doesn't > even attempt to draw any paper, just immediately says it is jammed.... > I wonder if something (a sensor?) is blocked or something.... > > TjL > > > On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, Stefano Pagiola wrote: > > > Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > > Well, I put my printer back together after trying to clean it as > > > best as I could, and went to print a test sheet only to be told > > > "Paper is jammed in the printer, check paper path" > > > Of course, there's no paper in there, it didn't even try to move > > > even one sheet. > > > My guess is that it thinks there is something in the path, but I > > > don't know how to "correct" it. So far neither reasonable > > > conversation nor extensive cussing have helped. > > > Any clues/hints welcome. Tim, I guess you'd have to explain what 'clean it as best as I could' entailed. But here are some comments: (1) Try sticking some paper in there. Get it ready completely. restart the machine. (2) When the machine restarts you should hear the printer power on and move the gears slightly (I'd have to reboot to check this carefully) If you don't hear any gear movement (you remember what your printer sounds like when you restart!?) then something is either jamming the gear mechanism, or something else is wrong with the drive mechanism. Motor, broken gear, etc. (3) Paper roller(s): But you didn't have paper in there so the Printer should have reported 'Paper tray empty" - Only when you tried to print I think!? I guess from what your describing the machine is not even trying to pull in paper. But it doesn't help not having paper in there to start! :) Put some paper in there (toner too ;), let me know what kind of sounds you hear from the laser when the machine boots, and finally when does that error come up (just after you WM comes up?, or when you try to print?). A final note: Bad sign: No noise from printer - Error when WM comes up or before Good signs: Normal printer noise, mechanism clicks, or better turns, fixer heat comes on. Error only reported only after submitting the print job, and even better if the rollers try to pull in a sheet (but fail for some reason to pull the paper through the machine). Randy
From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lost Boot sector adding win95 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:55:19 -0700 Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd. Message-ID: <3224B237.5F9D@mpr.ca> References: <501q6q$1mtg@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Punch wrote: > > I have an Intel P590 with a 1 Gb drive partitioned into 75%NeXT and 25%DOS. Well, it > was DOS, but I installed from scratch Win95 into the DOS partition. Now Win95 runs > well but it no longer prompts me at boot time for the partition to start, and I > can't start NeXT. Obviously, the Win95 install over-wrote the boot prompt. How can I > re-install, get back the boot prompt. Thanks. > > -- > Bill Punch > punch@cps.msu.edu What you first have to do is set the next partition active using dos's fdisk. Then your system will boot straight into NeXTStep. From there you can run NeXTStep's fdisk program with a couple of options. Of hand i think that it should look like this. fdisk [bootdevice] -boot0 -BootSectorOnly -boot0 is a zero after the word boot. your bootdevice parameter will vary depending on if you have an IDE or SCSI disk. You can do a man on fdisk to find out the correct capitaliazation of the options. Once your are in fdisk. I think you choose 5 which is Write changes and Exit. Make Sure that you don't make any other changes to the partitions, just to be safe. If you need any further info then you can check NeXTAnswers for the Document on Surviving Dos. This document came out when NS 3.1 intel was released. But it applies to this situation as well. Scott Mewett mewett@mpr.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: verhagk@il.us.swissbank.com (Ken Verhagen) Subject: Re: Zip drive problem Message-ID: <1996Aug28.204452.2632@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960827213411.29877C-100000@charisma> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 20:44:52 GMT "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> writes > > > On 27 Aug 1996, Steve Dekorte wrote: > > > Got a SCSI Zip Drive for my NeXTstation and I can read the sip disk that > > came with the drive, but I can't write to it. (I get a "read-only" disk > > error) > > I don't see any write-protect setting on the disk. The problem lies with the fact that the disk you have is formatted for MS-DOS. Buy a macintosh formatted zip disk, and you should be OK. There is a way to force the msdos disk to work by formatting it using the command line, but I forget how this is done. Ken
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can a TurboColor NeXTstation take 128 MB of RAM? Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 22:36:58 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <502hoa$mml@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <4v2c44$10c4@news.doit.wisc.edu> <4v9p39$42i@news1.1stnet.com> <4vff4h$i5s@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> <4vi9qe$9sh@pro-audio.freinet.de> <4vslgn$3ns@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> <4vt1ca$4ev@usenet.rpi.edu> <4vud8h$18g@pro-audio.freinet.de> ŸŸŸŸŸúlŸŸŸŸŸrubsamen@pro-audio.freinet.de (Marcus Rübsamen) wrote: >>> > I have 60 ns SIMMS and they get recognized right! >>> >>> I hope I'm wrong, but I don't believe 60ns SIMM pin sense >>> configurations had been defined by the time NeXT was cranking >>> out its last 70ns color turbos. If true, I think it could be a >>> fluke that some 60ns SIMMs are being recognized as 70ns on some >>> boards. But there must be more to this than meets the eye... >Again: While booting my TurboColor the boot monitor shows in its first line: >"CPU MC 68040 33 MHz, memory 60nS". 60nS get recognized by my NeXT. I don't >think, that it works any faster than with 70ns, but for sure my computer >didn't get slower when I replaced my new 60 ns memory! The Turbo chipset as used in the NeXTStation Turbo Monochrome and Color boxes decodes most SIMM speeds in common use, and will configure memory timing to 100 ns or 70 ns as appropriate for the sensed memory speed. (Timing changes are in 30 ns increments on the Turbo hardware as 30 ns roughly corresponds to 1 wait state.) Beware that the hardware uses a wire-OR over the memory speed sense pins to decide what speed of memory is installed. The ROM will report a memory speed based on what it sees on the sense lines. Mixing memory speeds may result in selection of an inappropriate speed. The non-Turbo NeXTStation Color, as best as I can recall, had fixed timing requiring 80 ns or better 72 pin SIMMS, and handled up to 32 Mb of memory. The NextStation Monochrome , 68030 and 68040 Cube boards (non-Turbo chipset) use the smaller 30 pin 1 or 4 Mb SIMMs, and have timing fixed at 100 ns. The NextStation Monochrome could hold up to 32 Mb of memory in 4 Mb SIMMS. The Cube boards could handle up to 64 Mb of memory in 4 Mb SIMMS. Just to help in identifying things, the non-Turbo chipsets include one (NeXTStation Color) or two big grey ceramic Fujitsu ASICs. Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: wimg@azuur.tn.tudelft.nl (Wim van Geloven) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB 16 Value PnP under Nextstep Date: 27 Aug 1996 11:54:47 GMT Organization: Delft University of Technology, Faculty of Applied Physics Message-ID: <4vunm7$r2@cyber.tn.tudelft.nl> References: <3221B9DE.41C6@imag.fr> >I'm a french student and i try to use a soundblaster 16 Value PnP on a Intel based >Computer. Nextstep does not any sound. I've try 3.32 and 3.33 drivers, i also download >EISA 3.33 drivers (with PnP option). >The card is found, but the only sound i get is a clic on reseting hardware. This is a known problem for the PnP cards. The problem is not in the SoundBlaster driver but in the EISA driver. Here's a reply from NextAnswers: The problem with the SoundBlaster PnP card is tied to NEXTSTEP's Plug n Play support. Our driver engineers have been working on a new version of EISABus driver that should greatly imporve PnP support in NEXTSTEP (for both 3.3 and 4.0). This driver should be done soon (however, I can make no promises as to when). Once it is done, the engineers will go through all the drivers for cards with PnP support and determine if they will have to be updated to work with the new driver. Once all the PnP issues are resolved, the engineers will be able to address any remaining problems with the SoundBlaser driver, if there are any. Wim van Geloven Delft University of Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199608282154.RAA04754@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 96 17:54:55 -0400 Subject: Re: EZ135 & NeXT ? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh) on 27 Aug 1996 wrote: > Does anybody have any experience hooking up a SyQuest EZ135 to a > NeXT (old mono slab)? It was recommended by my friendly > neighbourhood ex-NeXT now-Mac outlet as a cheap backup solution. Yes, I have one. It's hooked to my external HD. It has a SCSI-I connection (and come with a terminator). I could have connected it right to my old mono slab with that SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 connector I suppose. It doesn't need a disktab, and is immediately recognized. I currently lists for $120 (US), including a cartridge (~227 megs formatted for NeXT), terminator, and power supply (I think it came with a SCSI cable but not the one I needed. New cartridges are $20. However, if I had waited a few months (like now) I would have gotten an EZFlyer230, which is approx $300 (US), comes with a cartridge which is 230 megs unformatted, and can read/write the EZ135 cartridges. New cartridges are $30. TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen) Subject: Re: S: mail addres/fax-no. of 'Decision One' Message-ID: <1996Aug28.191930.8680@aurora.in-berlin.de> Organization: Individual Network Berlin e.V. References: <4un89j$2jb@stern.fokus.gmd.de> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 19:19:30 GMT Sometime ago, I wrote: : I am looking for an e-mail address and/or fax number of DecisionOne, : the company that took over the Service Department from Bell Atlantic that : served the NeXT community with spare and exchange parts. I would like to share the information I have gathered so far: 1) DecisionOne is present in the WorldWideWeb now, their URL is http://www.decisionone.com/ 2) Their mailadress is information@decisionone.com. 3) A phone number for questions regarding NeXT parts/service could be 1-800-499-6398 ext. 2 A general purpose phone no. is 1-888-287-9202 4) Fax concerning NeXT stuff: 1-510-732-3078, Attn: Terry Sincerely, __ __ Ingmar \_V_/ ___Y___ +-----------+ |\__/. .\ Ingmar Camphausen | USE PGP! |\ O---m /| \ \_____/| ingmar@in-berlin.de | (key via server |/`-------'\| \_U__////_/ (NeXTmail/MIME ok!) | or on request) +-----------+ Golden Key Campaign ==== Ein Mann wie ein Baum; sie nannten ihn Bonsai =====
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ram placement Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 00:23:34 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <502o04$q70@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <ileslie.96Aug2717131@orack> ileslie@nmsu.edu wrote: >I have a NeXTstation Turbo with two 8 Meg simms. I want to buy a 32 Meg simm to >add into my system. Can I do this and is the order that I put the simms in important. >I note that NeXT did not include this information with their printed matter. The SIMMs for the Turbo products need to be installed in identical pairs. You can use 1, 4 ,8, 16, or 32 Mb SIMMS. The 8 and 32 Mb SIMMs will have half the memory on the front and half on the back side of the stick (what the memory marketroids call a DIMM). Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: Jeff_Sickel@sickel.com (Jeff Sickel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: can't reasb on a MICROP 1991-27SC21020AV drive Date: 27 Aug 1996 14:01:31 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <4vuv3r$ddg@BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <4v0llm$hq8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <4v46aj$dl@turbocat.turbocat.de> <4va4ic$2he@precipice.fdn.fr> hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) wrote: >dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) wrote: >> >>I have a 4 GB 7200 rpm Micropolis drive here too. It was running for ~ 4 >>weeks. Now it has MEDIA ERRORS. It came as replacement for a drive (same >>type) that went so loud that you could not even talk in 4 meters distance. >> >>I would never suggest someone to buy a Micropolis drive. 2 out of 3 we have >>are making "problems" (If you call MEDIA ERRORS a problem:-( > >me too :-) > >I had 1 Microplis 4110 that was up 24/24h. >After one year, it became loud. One year later, it died with >MEDIA ERRORS, and lost files :-( > >Hugues. > Yeah, that's the way it goes some times... My 486 EISA/VL machine finally stopped having as many SCSI errors after I removed the caching module on the adaptor card. Now I only get media or bus errors when trying to move 500+ Megs of data. One suggestion though: I don't know if Ontrack provides public information about drives that they have had in for recovery, but back when I bought my first Micropolis drive, I was able to get a list of good models (from all drive manufactures) and models to stay away from. Luckily, Seagate has finally made it's come back and has improved they're quality control... jas
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTLP: Paper is jammed in the printer -- no it isn't !! Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 10:08:34 -0400 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <32230162.D0@worldbank.org> References: <199608260238.WAA00461@nerc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > Well, I put my printer back together after trying to clean it as > best as I could, and went to print a test sheet only to be told > "Paper is jammed in the printer, check paper path" > Of course, there's no paper in there, it didn't even try to move > even one sheet. > My guess is that it thinks there is something in the path, but I > don't know how to "correct" it. So far neither reasonable > conversation nor extensive cussing have helped. > Any clues/hints welcome. I think it uses the opening and closing of the printer cover as a signal that the jam had been cleared. Try opening and closing it, and the problem may go away. Stefano
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W - Problem installing with Date: 29 Aug 1996 02:25:14 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <502v2a$fr9@news4.digex.net> References: <4vv7jm$n55@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> <3223B0C7.13D6@uwyo.edu> <500lp1$d4j@news.xmission.com> don@misckit.com wrote: > This is _exactly_ my problem. It spots the drives while booting, but then when it goes to list the startup disk, it can't find anything. It assigned sd0 to the CDROM and sd1 to the hard drive, which is as it should be. Hmm, one other thing you might try is a SCSI cdrom. sd0 should NOT be assigned to an eide cdrom...I don't think it should...hd should. Anyway, might be worth a shot. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: Peter Olsson <peter@miskish.gi.alaska.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Laptops and Nextstep Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:34:03 -0800 Organization: Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks Message-ID: <3224D76B.41C6@miskish.gi.alaska.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am interested in purchasing a pentium laptop to run nextstep on and would be interested in hearing from anyone out there who has some words of wisdom regarding compatability, good deals, requisite hardware, etc. Please respond via e-mail, and thanx in advance for your time. -- Dr. Peter Q. Olsson Geophysical Institute University of Alaska Fairbanks Fairbanks, AK 99775-7320 Phone: (907) 474-6477 FAX: (907) 474-7290 e-mail: peter@miskish.gi.alaska.edu
From: "Mohammad Tahmasebi" <sales@pars.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Non-Intel CPU's for Openstep/Intel? Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:32:53 -0700 Organization: Pars International Computer I Message-ID: <01bb9563.856350c0$cc5856ce@pars.vip.best.com> References: <500o6j$cg9@nuke.csu.net> Yes, It works just fine.. We have built many systems for our customers with AMD 486/120 or 133. Pars International Computuer...Provider of Hardware Solution for NextStep Market. 510-7330103 > kzin@arcadia.SJSU.EDU (John Rudd) wrote in article <500o6j$cg9@nuke.csu.net>... > > > I've been contemplating upgrading my system to either a low-end pentium, or a > high end AMD 486. Does anyone know if the AMD 486dx4/120 or 133 will work > with Nextstep? > > >
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From: kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kyle Hearfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turbo slab powers up automatically? Date: 29 Aug 1996 04:57:30 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Message-ID: <5037vq$gd8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <4va01a$g75@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.91.960827111346.799O-100000@cycle1> I believe this powering on thing is a setting for unattended servers, so that if they crash they will reboot themselves. This is not a problem, aas it is only a setting somewhere, although I cannot recall where. Nick Potkay (npotkay@integ.micrognosis.com) wrote: : On 19 Aug 1996, Bruce Wayne Patton wrote: : > I am thinking of buying a used turbo slab. The owner sent me : > this message: : > : > We've just found out that the color slab has a slight probelm that it'll : > turn itself on automatically everytime we turn it off, i.e. it cannot be : > power-off. Otherwise, everything works fine. You can still of course : > log-out. : > : > Is this something that is easy to fix or correct? : Bruce, : Well under preferences, you can specify a certain time for the machine to : turn itself on. : -Nick -- I don't wan't the world, I just want your half. -Unknown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kyle D. Hearfield kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PGP FINGERPRINT = 8A 3C 24 C9 86 F5 E6 3C 7B 91 D2 B1 CF 32 B7 E9 **finger for public Key**
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W - Problem installing with Date: 29 Aug 1996 07:13:16 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <503fuc$nt9@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <4vv78q$nld@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> <50167u$4ab@newsbf02.news.aol.com> thedrjay@aol.com (The Dr Jay) wrote: > I think that when you copied the new driver to the instalation disk is > where you made your fatal error. No, this is no error. You can copy or remove drivers from the drivers disk totally freely. You only have to check that you don't rename any directory and that the disk keeps its original label. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 Mail: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (MIME/NeXT accepted)
From: Hugh Ashton <hugha@nexustech.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ram placement Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 07:07:50 +0900 Organization: Nexus Technology Message-ID: <3224C336.50A8@nexustech.com> References: <ileslie.96Aug2717131@orack> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ileslie@nmsu.edu wrote: > > I have a NeXTstation Turbo with two 8 Meg simms. I want to buy a 32 Meg simm to > add into my system. Can I do this and is the order that I put the simms in important. > I note that NeXT did not include this information with their printed matter. > I am pretty sure that you will have to do it as 2 x 16Mb SIMMs (or, if you're feeling rich, 2 x 32Mb SIMMs). Order doesn't matter that I'm aware of. "Don't mix parity and non-parity SIMMs" is another rule I've heard (I've never mixed them, so I don't know if this is folklore or truth).
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How fast is a NS/FIP (115.2 kbaud) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:23:32 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960829113233.9310A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <501vc8$1hd8@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <501vc8$1hd8@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> On 28 Aug 1996, Michael Moellney wrote: > I'd like to connect a externel ISDN (ZyXEL Omni TA 128) adapter to my > NS/FIP system. I'm somewhat worried about hearing that there might be > problems, because ISDN is 64 kbaud and NS/FIP can provide only 57.6 > kbaud. Shouldn't tha be 115,2 with a FIFO UART 16650 inside? > Yes, it _should_. However I never tried it, because I always was running PPP and the PPP rejects connections over 57.6kbps to a modem, etc. So maybe it's not a serial driver problem, but a problem of the PPP deamon. I don't know whether the limitation is still there in OS4.0. NS3.3 isn't able to do PPP connections via a modem with more than 57.6kbps. Greetings, Boerny.
From: headi@now.ch (Daniel Scheidegger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip drive problem Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 06:17:33 GMT Organization: NOW GmbH, Baar, Switzerland Message-ID: <Dwvyt9.BF3.0.astra@now.ch> References: <4vviil$lqs@news.onramp.net> In article <4vviil$lqs@news.onramp.net>, Steve Dekorte <dekorte@suite.com> wrote: > >Got a SCSI Zip Drive for my NeXTstation and I can read the sip disk that >came with the drive, but I can't write to it. (I get a "read-only" disk >error) >I don't see any write-protect setting on the disk. > >Steve > Steve, the problem ist that the disk which is delivered with the drive contains the zip-tools for both Windows and Mac in separate 'partitions' and is write protected per software. Now, all you have to do is to find a nice friend with a Zip-Drive and the Tools installed for Windows and reformate the disk. Be sure to make a 'low-level' format (the one that takes about 10 minutes) to get rid of the write-protect and the password which is set. Of course, I could do this for you if I'd live nearby you... Greetings from Switzerland Daniel -- Daniel Scheidegger Software Engineer, System Administrator NOW GmbH, Scheideggstr. 73, CH-8038 Zuerich ++41-1-2898025 / dscheide@now.ch
From: tshores@unlinfo.unl.edu (thomas shores) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem solved: Nextstep possible on Dell XPS P166S! Date: 29 Aug 1996 12:16:01 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5041m1$rrd@crcnis3.unl.edu> Thanks to everyone who responded to a post of mine. I would never have gotten the world's best OS working on this Dell XPS P166S (with #9 Motion 771 video card and EIDE) without the generous help of the Nextstep community. Installation failed at the end on this system. Just in case anyone else runs into the same problem, I'm summarizing the responses: Tiang Khoo responded: >It's some kind of conflict betweeen the Motion Graphics 771 card >and the Dell motherboard. Other S3 type cards (Diamond Stealth, >etc.) also exhibit variations of this behavior on the XPS P166s. >Get a non-S3-based card (eg. ATI Mach) and it will work just >fine. Or, upgrade to OS4.0 - this is unverified on the >production release, but the installation process had no problems >on a prerelease. >I'm typing this on a machine just like yours (except for a bit >more RAM). Aside from the CD-ROM problem, I can see two options: > 1) Permanently replace the video card with a non-S3 one. > 2) Replace the video card temporarily during installation > and swap it back afterwards. >With choice 2, you have to disable boot graphics and reboot only >via Alt-NumLock instead of clicking the Restart or Power-off >buttons on the login panel. Also, if you ever run into trouble >and need to boot config=Default, be warned that the default VGA >display driver will cause a lockup when you try to reboot later! >Obviously, Choice 1 is preferable unless you are comfortable >mucking with Configure's data files. For Choice 2, I would also >disable the login panel buttons and change the Default.table so >that it doesn't use the VGA driver. Ed Gibson (of Next) pointed out: >... the number 9 video card will not work with 3.3 unless you >down load the correct driver from next answers. The 3.3 CD is >not equipped with the driver for this card. I believe this is >posted in the compatibility guide. The read me document for the >driver is # 2113. Finally, Lee Altenberg observed: >I had the exact same problem with NS/I 3.3 on a Micron P133 >Millenia Plus system. Every time I got the "Can't find $LBL" >I had to reinstall the entire NS/I. It has to do with the S3 >chip in the graphics card (mine is an ELSA Wnner2000 Pro/4X). >When it tries to go into VGA graphics mode (during booting and >rebooting), the machine crashes. >So, the first thing is to boot in non-graphics mode. >Here's the way I prevented it from going into VGA graphics mode >during shutdown: use Alt-NumLock to >halt the machine IMMEDIATELY after hitting the save button in >Configure.app. You have to catch it between when it has saved the >config files and when it tries to shut down the system. It >requires some handy timing. When my machine comes back up, >it boots without boot graphics. I also disabled "power off" in >root's Preferences, because that would put it back into VGA >graphics again, and crash the machine. Give this a try and I >hope you'll be up and running soon. We tried Lee's suggestion, after install booting verbose and installing the video driver suggested by Ed during the installation process. Worked like a charm first time through. Thanks again to everyone for their help! Tom Shores University of Nebraska
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Solved: Quantum Atlas 4GB and other 4GB drives under NEXTSTEP Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 14:24:23 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960829140444.15318B-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I got many replies and found a solution to the problem on how to connect a 4GB drive to the NeXT easily (not perfectly). This news will also show up in the next FAQ. 1. Solution: - If you need more than 3 partitions, you have to write a disktab entry! Using fdisk has no effect. - On how to write a disktab entry, read the NeXTanswers (search for partition) - other pointers are: 'scsimodes' and 'man disktab'. 2. Solution: - for Quantum drives the following is true: Quantum defines 1MB to be exactly 1.000.000 bytes. So if you are suited best by using 2 partitions on a Quantum Atlas 34300 (4.3GB drive-Quantum size, 4GB+5MB real size) - 2 partitions are automatically handled on all NS3.3 platforms - To easily install the drive by not writing a disktab entry do the following: * disconnect all other drives and connect the 4GB drive with ID 0 * start a plain NS3.3 installation via disks and the CD-ROM * when the installation of files starts (text based output) you may break the procedure (the disk will get fsck'ed later) or wait until the system reboots and hangs :-) (no fsck needed then) * you should previously have read some line telling you: initializing sd0b * now reconnect your old boot drives and restart NEXTSTEP with the old boot drives. Switch the 4GB drive to a different ID. * Only the first partition of the 4GB drive will get mounted automatically, this is due to a documented bug in the automounter. * to permanently mount both partitions, add your drive partitions to the /etc/fstab file. Test mounting and umounting by hand first. * everything should work fine now after a second reboot, and if you set up your fstab file correctly, both partitions will get mounted. - To switch the boot partition to the new 4GB drive continue with: * only the first partition is bootable (you'll notice that by doing a ls -l on the mount entry -- there is the 't' file mode) * (cd / ; gnutar -clf -)|(cd <1.partition>; gnutar -xvpf -) This transfers your root _device_ to the new partition. * now try a boot from the new drive, by entering in the boot prompt: sd(x)mach_kernel (bsd for NeXT) The above should work with any drive, larger than 2GB. If you need more than 2 partitions you should take in concern that you need a prefix space for the booter, when you write a disktab entry. I didn't tried this. BTW: Don't lowlevel format a Quantum drive: 1) it takes very long (2h) 2) it is of no use, because it can only handle 512 bytes/sektor. 3) you won't be able to reformat it if you break the formatting procedure (if you only have Intel hardware with NEXTSTEP and/or DOS/Windows). For me, once doing this mistake, only my good old Amiga was able to handle the drive correctly. Good bless proprietary hardware :-) Please reply, if you had success with this description or discovered problems, so I can adjust the article for the NeXT FAQ. Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholzb@pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Ultra/Ultra W - Problem installing with Date: 29 Aug 1996 09:29:09 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <503nt5$nt9@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <4vv7jm$n55@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> <3223B0C7.13D6@uwyo.edu> <500lp1$d4j@news.xmission.com> <502v2a$fr9@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > Hmm, one other thing you might try is a SCSI cdrom. sd0 should NOT be > assigned to an eide cdrom... No, this not correct. The boot process of Nextstep still expects any boot CD ROM to be an sd... device. If you have an ATAPI CDROM, Nextstep first registers it as hc0 (or hc1) device, but then _remaps_ it to the first free sdx entry. The original poster's problem might be that he loaded the ATAPI driver before the SCSI driver. In this case, the following can happen: When Nextstep boots, it looks for the type of boot device. It boots from the first BIOS INT13h device and sees "OK, I'm booting from the first SCSI device, so I have to use /dev/sd0a (rootdev 600, howto 0) to load the system." Then the ATAPI drivers are loaded. The system registers the CDROM drive as hc0 and remaps it to sd0. But then, the SCSI drivers are loaded. When the systems maps the sdx IDs to the devices on the SCSI bus, it cannot map the hard disk to sd0, because sd0 was already used for the CDROM. So the hard disk becomes sd1 and not sd0 as the system assumed before. When all core drivers are loaded, the kernel continues to boot the rest of the system, which now fails, because the system is now on /dev/sd1a and not on /dev/sd0a. You should check the value of "Boot Drivers" in "/usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table". If "EIDE" comes before "Adaptec2940SCSIDriver", this is the problem. Swap the two entries, and see if it's working then. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 Mail: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (MIME/NeXT accepted)
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