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From: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP's Mac HFS filesystem suport is ridiculous... Date: 30 Dec 1995 13:52:19 GMT Organization: Individual - France Message-ID: <4c3g6j$8a@precipice.fdn.fr> References: <1995Dec29.051859.10666@media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) wrote: > >What I'm looking for is other Mac filesystem war stories, so I know >how to formulate a coherent bug report for NeXT. I'm not sure if >it's file size, file name length, directory depth, thefact that I'm >the one logged in :-) or what. Any data appreciated; I'll try to >formulate it into a coherent bug report. Better yet would be a work around, >but I'm not optimistic. Problems with NeXT's HFS implementation are there from the beginning (NS3.0). Here's an excerpt from an old copy of NeXTWorld (about comparison between HFS and UFS) : "The real problem, thought, wasn't the speed. It was the reliability. NeXSTEP 3.0's HFS implementation consistently misplaced the content of some files copied to the Macintosh file system. The file names were there - I [the reviewer] just couldn't read their contents". Hugues. -------------------------------------------------------------------- hugues@precipice.fdn.fr - France (small NeXTMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: enormous memory use... Message-ID: <1995Dec31.033537.4718@media.mit.edu> Sender: news@media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Pixar Animation Studios (East Coast Office) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 03:35:37 GMT Okay, here's my next weird problem: I have a Pentium w/128MB of RAM. I've been running out of swap way faster than I should doing rendering, so I started sniffing around, and upon logging in, with no apps being autolaunched other than the Workspace, I get: welles> ps -aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND wave 200 4.7 54.1 71.1M 69.3M ? SW 0:04 - console (WindowServer) What the heck is that all about? Note this is totally repeatable, I reboot the machine, log in, launch Terminal.app, and do the ps and get the same result. This is a patched 3.3. Intel machine. Is ps lying, or is 54% of my memory getting sucked up immediately? Sorry if this has been rehashed before, but this is no <mach-task>, and 70MB is pretty scary. Any thoughts appreciated. -- --> Michael B. Johnson, SMVS, Ph.D. -- wave@media.mit.edu|wave@pixar.com --> http://wave.www.media.mit.edu/people/wave/ --> alumnus, MIT Media Lab, Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> Media Arts Technologist, Pixar Animation Studios (East Coast Office)
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: enormous memory use... Date: 31 Dec 1995 22:31:25 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <4c72vt$8bp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1995Dec31.033537.4718@media.mit.edu> Well, howdy! This is a poser. I don't have a PC (yet) so I have no direct experience with the hardware, but I've experienced weird momory explosions on my Cube before. At the time I narrowed the culprits down to: 1) OmniWeb 1.0 beta 2) a SCSI bus that was too long (whyinhell do they make SCSI cables in 2-meter lengths, anyway, if you're going to connect multiple devices and the maximum length of the chain is limited to 7 ft?) 3) a flakey hard drive. 4) loose SIMMs Months later i decided 3) was the culprit - I'd removed the drive and a friend asked to borrow it in an emergency for his news server. The Sun box *wouldn't even format it* - it reported 30% bad sectors! This drive had formatted OK under NS but kept flaking out for no good reason. As a last resort you might try rebuilding the system, clean install and all. Truly bogus, but sometimes I've gotten gremlins in my Cube I couldn't kill any other way. Hope this helps, and Happy New Year, Stevo -- Steve Weintz * Partner, New Media, Ltd. P.O. Box 742 * Urbana, IL 61801 steve@dave-world.net * 217.344.5303 * 217.344.8981 fax Staff Visioneer, Beckman Institute Visualization Facility * indy@uiuc.edu
From: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: No manual entry for machine Date: 31 Dec 1995 09:41:56 GMT Organization: Individual - France Message-ID: <4c5lt4$ue@precipice.fdn.fr> References: <4c1aia$1kc@turbocat.snafu.de> dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) wrote: >dave@turbocat> man machine >No manual entry for machine. > >The NEXTSTEP has no man page for machine. nor for "arch" (the arch command and not the arch header). > >Here is the NetBSD page: > ... man hostinfo hostinfo is more "verbose" than "machine", that's why may be they don't bother writing a man page for machine... useless. Hugues. -------------------------------------------------------------------- hugues@precipice.fdn.fr - France (small NeXTMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: enormous memory use... Message-ID: <DKGyL3.5DD@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: news@euler.hnv.icem.de Organization: Ink Unknown References: <1995Dec31.033537.4718@media.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 21:05:27 GMT Michael B. Johnson writes [...] > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND > wave 200 4.7 54.1 71.1M 69.3M ? SW 0:04 - console (WindowServer) Just to add some fuel: js 252 4.5 13.8 24.0M 2.75M ? S 31:12 - console (WindowServer) on black 20Meg station after running some apps for some time Juergen --- Fon +49 511 4406-88 NeXTMail welcome No Mime Fax +49 511 4406-17 == What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, == when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, == when a politician's idea of social change is changing names == when changing title bars' colors to mainstream hype is considered progress?
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: enormous memory use... Date: 2 Jan 1996 14:46:29 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <4cbgg5$2fb@news.tuwien.ac.at> How about this one: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND rft 222 2.6225.4 80.1M 72.1M ? SW 270:52 - console (WindowServer) This is on a machine with 32 MB of ram so: (72.1 / 32.0) * 100 = 225% %MEM is calculated correctly. but: I have already tried my machine with 64MB of RAM (%MEM:113), and then there is not much swapping activity left (even with 4 images @ 8MB each), so I guess it is not reporting memory usage correctly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Mail bug (or PopOver?) Date: 2 Jan 1996 14:54:02 -0700 Organization: A Big Black Cube Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: <4cc9hq$csq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> an odd bug, somehow Mail.app is not separating all the mail properly. What I get is two letters that show up under one header: Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:49:54 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: Aeldrik Pander <aeldrik@koncon.nl> To: nsfip-homebrew@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu Subject: SoundBlaster 16 value edition Cc: aeldrik@koncon.koncon.nl Sender: owner-nsfip-homebrew@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu Reply-To: nsfip-homebrew@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu Hi, First the official part: Happy and healthy new year. [letter snipped for brevity] Aeldrik Pander >FromPopOver Tue Jan 2 08:28:17 1996 Received: from [204.212.59.88] (ip088.lax.primenet.com [204.212.59.88]) by usr3.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09065 for <rworne@primenet.com>; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:28:17 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:28:17 -0700 (MST) X-Sender: iblok@primenet.com (Unverified) Message-Id: <v01530500ad0e9c971b7d@[204.212.59.66]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rworne@primenet.com From: iblok@primenet.com (Ilene Blok) Robert, I thought of some other things I need help with...learning the [rest deleted] obviously this is another letter, yet it is "appended" to the previous. It was not sent this way, does anyone have a clue? (for I certainly don't) -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: Dominik Westner <dominik@gowest.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: EOF: 2nd independent fetch frees NXImage of 1st fetch Date: 2 Jan 1996 23:36:07 GMT Organization: TeDoc, Munich, Germany Message-ID: <4ccfh7$bj@cube.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Hi, I encountered the following problem: - fetch an image from a database and display it in a NXImageView. - create a 2nd datasource+controller and fetch the same table containing that image again without displaying the image - sending the NXImageView a display message will crash the app, because the NXImage was freed by the 2nd fetch. At least this is what the stack tells me: #0 0x602baa3 in -[NXImage free] () #1 0x7835ddb in -[Object(NSCompatibility) dealloc] () #2 0x7835c29 in -[Object(NSCompatibility) release] () #3 0xe02983b in -[_EOMutableKnownKeyDictionary dealloc] () #4 0x782162b in -[NSObject release] () #5 0xe02694e in -[_EOUniqueTable recordObject:primaryKeyString:snapshot:] () #6 0xe00a554 in -[EODatabase recordObject:primaryKeyString:snapshot:] () #7 0xe02810b in -[EODatabaseChannel(Private) _fetchObject:withZone:] () #8 0xe00c90a in -[EODatabaseChannel fetchWithZone:] () #9 0xe00db6b in -[EODatabaseDataSource fetchObjects] () #10 0xf0087b6 in -[EOController _fetch:] () #11 0xf008990 in -[EOController fetch] () Can anybody enlighten me why this should happen? Is there a workaround/patch? Valid for EOF 1.1. -- Dominik --- Dominik Westner "Everything is possible in an infinite universe" _____________________________________Willi, the painter Munich, Germany (NOT :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch (E. Baranzini) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP's Mac HFS filesystem suport is ridiculous... Message-ID: <1996Jan2.204638.1127@muscat.pr.net.ch> Sender: ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch References: <1995Dec29.051859.10666@media.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:46:38 GMT In article <1995Dec29.051859.10666@media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes: > Having just trashed a Mac gig drive for the nth time under NEXTSTEP > by doing nothing more innocuous than dragging a couple of folders > on to it, I'm really sick of this... I've avoided writing up a bug > report on this because it always happens when I'm frantic, and I don't [...] Excerpt from "Known Bugs in NEXTSTEP (aka. KBNS)" version 3.3 > XXX.32.2 > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs > From: ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch (E. Baranzini) > Subject: Re: Trouble with too many files copied to HD with MacOS > Reply-To: ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch > Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 07:01:08 GMT > > In article <3hdr6k$qph@spock.usc.edu> tokumaru@spock.usc.edu (Phillip Tokumaru) writes: > > There seems to be a bug in NS3.2's macfs. Can anyone tell > > me if this has been fixed for 3.3? Is there a work-around? > > > > Description: System hangs when a large number of files are > > copied onto a hard drive with Mac OS. This problem happens > > every time. > > > > I have experienced this problem with NextStep3.2 for both > > HP and Next (m68k) computers. And with both a 270MB Syquest > > drive and a 1GB Fujitsu drive. > > > > The NeXT has a system panic and may or may not re-boot itself. > > ... > > > > > > Phillip Tokumaru > > ptok@cave.usc.edu > > > > I have also had a lot of problems with NeXTstep 3.1 and 3.2 on > black hardware. The problem is reproducible. It has to do, I > think, with a bad pointer in the Mac FAT table. The crashes > were for me exceptionally bad, I have lost full disks of data > (but I had a backup of course :-). I have no Mac at hand (but > two NeXT), and therefore my only solution was to buy a Daydream > box, connect to a second NeXT and copy the files with fpt (on > the Mac). I have bugged NeXT about this problem, but no answer > from there :-(. > > If there is another solution (or a patch) I would be very > interested to know. Thank's. > My workaround: - if the CD-ROM is ISO-9660 compliant, then normal tar will be OK for transferring to the Mac (no more than 64 chars per filename): tar the files, gzip the tar file, ftp to the Mac, ungzip and untar on the Mac and then burn it; - if the CD-ROM is with Rockride extension: use mkisofs to make an Image on the NeXT, gzip it, ftp to the Mac, ungzip it on the Mac and burn it. One warning: use gzip and not compress on the NeXt, because the gzip program on the Mac has a bug: on the Mac uncompress with gzip is not working cleanly (without any alert!) and you get an apparently normal file (or file tree), but in reality an incomplete one. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Erminio BARANZINI, Muehlemattstr. 53, CH-3007 Berne, Switzerland ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: mcbinc@world.std.com (Monty C Brandenberg) Subject: Restarting pbs Message-ID: <DKMM2D.696@world.std.com> Organization: MCB, Incorporated. Cambridge, MA Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:20:37 GMT Is there a way to restart the pasteboard server in a running session? Whether or not I use the '-a' option or execute it as root or myself, if fails to connect to the worksspace. Why do I want to do this? Certain programs, like OmniImage and OmniWeb, pump images for conversion down through another process apparently using pbs. It then tends to grow and fragment. Real size is rarely very bad but total address space keeps growing. -- Monty Brandenberg Software Consultant MCB, Inc. mcbinc@world.std.com 617.864.6907
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: still no bugfix Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:15:33 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <MS-C.820707333.377401575.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: phillip Well, it's been a couple of weeks, and nobody has come up with a fix for the limit of 7 sd<n> spindles in NEXTSTEP. Does this means that NeXT agrees that CD-ROM changers can not be used on their system?
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: enormous memory use... Date: 4 Jan 1996 07:13:48 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4cfunc$6fn@news.its.com> References: <1995Dec31.033537.4718@media.mit.edu> <4c72vt$8bp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) wrote: > 2) a SCSI bus that was too long (whyinhell do they make SCSI cables in > 2-meter lengths, anyway, if you're going to connect multiple devices > and the maximum length of the chain is limited to 7 ft?) Umm, the max length of a SCSI bus is 30+ ft (or 10 meters). And you can get SCSI cables in 0.5 and 1.0 meter lengths if you ask for them. -Chuck Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: enormous memory use... Date: 3 Jan 1996 21:33:33 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4cesnd$9kj@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1995Dec31.033537.4718@media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) wrote: > Okay, here's my next weird problem: > > I have a Pentium w/128MB of RAM. I've been running out of swap > way faster than I should doing rendering, so I started sniffing > around, and upon logging in, with no apps being autolaunched > other than the Workspace, I get: > > welles> ps -aux > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND > wave 200 4.7 54.1 71.1M 69.3M ? SW 0:04 - console (WindowServer) I have a Pentium with 32meg of RAM, running NS-3.3+patch1. My video is setup for 32-bit color. Immediately after a reboot and login, here's some of the larger processes that I see: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND gad 205 1.4 26.1 18.1M 8.36M ? SW 0:16 - console (WindowServer) root -1 0.3 23.1 53.4M 7.38M ? U 0:17 <mach-task> root -1 0.0 23.1 53.4M 7.38M ? S < 0:00 <mach-task> root 0 0.0 23.1 53.4M 7.38M ? R N 2:20 (kernel idle) root 23 0.0 0.5 6.79M 152K ? S 0:00 (nmserver) root 206 0.0 0.0 5.82M 0K ? SW 0:02 - console (loginwindow) root 213 0.0 0.0 5.02M 0K ? S 0:02 /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace gad 214 0.0 3.5 5.93M 1.13M ? SW 0:03 /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace Now, after starting up a few more applications and running various things, it occurred to me that I should check the size of the swapfile. 34299904 Jan 3 15:58 /private/vm/swapfile.front 16777216 Jan 3 15:58 /private/vm/swapfile (swapfile.front being the uncompressed version). I have 32meg of RAM, and there's about another 32meg in swapfile.front, so the most I could have really used is 64meg. We can obviously ignore the "-1" tasks, but adding up just the two highest VSIZE values gets us over 64meg. I'm not sure that this really helps anyone at all, but I thought I'd give another sample datapoint... > Any thoughts appreciated. What happens if you create a brand new user, reboot the machine, and then log into that userid (with all the default values)? --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: enormous memory use... Message-ID: <DKo4vx.AGF@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: computerActive Inc. References: <1995Dec31.033537.4718@media.mit.edu> <4c72vt$8bp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4cfunc$6fn@news.its.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:04:45 GMT Chuck Swiger (chuck@its.com) wrote: : Umm, the max length of a SCSI bus is 30+ ft (or 10 meters). And you can get : SCSI cables in 0.5 and 1.0 meter lengths if you ask for them. Yes, but the quality of the SCSI cables you get at the average PC shop is quite low. In my experience with large SCSI chains, if you have cheapo cabling, your total cable length gets reduced quite drastically. --Chris Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst -------------------------------------- computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by | chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad | http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: mckelvey@suite.com (James_W_McKelvey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Cube Freezes Date: 4 Jan 1996 20:54:42 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4cheqi$pj4@news.onramp.net> I have a serious problem in that my Cube "freezes up": the keyboard is dead, and usually the cursor disappears. I then have to reboot via CMD-~ and r, but I always have to do that twice. The freeze is more or less random, and even occurs when the login window is up. There is never any error message in the console. Once I started getting the error message "IO Error" from the shell before the freeze happened. I couldn't execute anything. Occasionally, after the reboot I will get continuous "vm pageout" errors and have to reboot again. This happens about every 20th time. I suspect the disc drive; anyone seen anything similar? Configuration: 040 Cube, 16 Meg, 2.4G Connor disc. -- The only thing necessary for the triumph of good is for evil men to do nothing. mckelvey@suite.com
From: ted@pdgm.com (Edward E. Murphy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: print spool not accepting multiple jobs Date: 6 Jan 1996 03:59:41 GMT Organization: Paradigm Investment Services, Inc. Message-ID: <4cks3d$bao@pdgm.com> Hi all, I have an HP1600CM attached to my Next network as a standalone printer (the HP machine comes with a network card; you set the IP address by telneting in). I print to it using lpd, with the spool residing on one of the Next machines (I'm running 3.2). Problem: If I print 5 small files in a row, very quickly, only 2 will print off. The spool ignores the other 3. Worse, if I print from one app then print from another app before the first is through printing, my printer crashes, and I have to reboot it. Single files print out fine, regardless of size. I don't want to attach the printer directly to my Next, because there are PCs on my network using 3rd party lpd stuff that also want to use the printer. The lack of an adequate queueing mechanism is really bugging me :) Any thoughts much appreciated. Ted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL Subject: Re: Using /tmp when booting from CD-ROM Message-ID: <DKtpww.zx@RnA.NL> Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. References: <4cnpan$qc2@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 18:26:56 GMT In article <4cnpan$qc2@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: > I have a vague recollection from some usenet >article that this was supposed to work OK. Must be mine in the past. The suggestion which NeXT gives is wrong. You cannot use existnig directories for mount point, but you can use non-existant ones. Thus, mount -n /dev/fd0a /tmp/floppy will work as a 'virtual' directory is created. So, when booting single user from a CD-ROM you cannot use any program that uses the /tmp directory but you can get writable directories other than that by mounting 'virtually'. In essence, the error made by NeXT is that the /tmp directory is there at all on the CD. It is no use as it can't be written to and it's existence prevents the suggestion they make themselves. I probably have BugNeXT-ed them about this in the past, maybe it helps if someone else does too. I hope they fix this on a following release. I also hope they will fix the /etc/rc.cdrom file in such a way that you have more possibilities when setting up your system (i.e. disk parameters like rpm) because the workaround is troublesome. -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: Arvind Soni <asoni@servtech.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: large snd files..... Date: 7 Jan 1996 20:53:37 GMT Organization: ServiceTech, Inc. Message-ID: <4cpbsh$rgi@murphy.servtech.com> I have noticed that when I have snd files larger than about 40-45 Megs, I can't play them with any app (resound, GISO, etc). Anyone else notice this problem or can give me any insight on my problem? Thanks in advance... Later, Arv asoni@servtech.com
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: SCSI Cables (Was: enormous memory use...) Date: 8 Jan 1996 00:13:30 GMT Organization: my own Message-ID: <4cpnja$4t4@gate.seicom.net> References: <1995Dec31.033537.4718@media.mit.edu> <4c72vt$8bp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4cfunc$6fn@news.its.com> <DKo4vx.AGF@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) wrote: > Chuck Swiger (chuck@its.com) wrote: > : Umm, the max length of a SCSI bus is 30+ ft (or 10 meters). And you can get > : SCSI cables in 0.5 and 1.0 meter lengths if you ask for them. > Yes, but the quality of the SCSI cables you get at the average PC shop is > quite low. In my experience with large SCSI chains, if you have cheapo > cabling, your total cable length gets reduced quite drastically. Do not count out the significance of *good* SCSI terminators. Only by switching from a external passive termination to a forced-perfect termination I got rid of all my SCSI failures. If your (internal) HD is itself terminated look if it uses active termination. If you are having a passive terminator on the other side of the bus you are bound for trouble... for the combination active - passive is not allowed (it works in most of the cases but the maximum cable length is not a maximum anymore) See the SCSI FAQ for more info. --- Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C ga ga"
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 8 Jan 1996 05:15:12 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4cq990$l0k@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: Cube Freezes Message-ID: <DL3ssx.7rv@sounds.wa.com> Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <4cheqi$pj4@news.onramp.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 05:05:21 GMT In article <4cheqi$pj4@news.onramp.net>, James_W_McKelvey <mckelvey@suite.com> wrote: >I have a serious problem in that my Cube "freezes up": the keyboard is dead, >and usually the cursor disappears. I then have to reboot via CMD-~ and r, >but I always have to do that twice. > >The freeze is more or less random, and even occurs when the login window is >up. > >Occasionally, after the reboot I will get continuous "vm pageout" errors and >have to reboot again. This happens about every 20th time. > >I suspect the disc drive; anyone seen anything similar? > >Configuration: 040 Cube, 16 Meg, 2.4G Connor disc. Would you happen to be running NEXTSTEP Release 3.3? I have been experiencing random panics or lockups (keyboard dead, Cmd-~ does NOT work, only Alt-Cmd-* is responsive). This occurs when the login window is up, or when the screensaver is active if I do not log out. When there is a panic instead of a total freeze up, the little window sometimes indicates some sort of pointer error while walking the virtual memory tables. It might have mentioned the MMU, but all the recent problems have been a frozen screen with no panic info, and I've forgotten what I used to see. Configuration: '040 NeXTcube with 40 MB, NeXTdimension board with 48 MB, Maxtor 1.2 GB and Seagate 405 MB (from NeXT). My hunch is that your drive is not causing this, but I only say that because my Maxtor, which has been running constantly for over 3 years, was recently replaced because it had difficulty spinning up, and there was no apparent improvement in the freeze-up/lockup since then (although the drive data does often get damaged by the crash). I also have the 3.3 patch, and that has not completely fixed the problem. -- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA <http://nwlink.com/cyberartists/brianw/brianw.html>
From: kiwi@ariane.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NFS crashes on high load Date: 13 Jan 1996 13:01:57 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4d8ag5$fah@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <49n3vc$nuq@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <4d5qbu$rmc@news.eecs.umich.edu> <4d6jgh$8cr@newshost.lanl.gov> Mark Doyle (doyle@mmm.lanl.gov) wrote: : Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@umich.edu> wrote: : > Axel Habermann writes : > > I'm also interested if this test works on HPPA or SPARC. : > Same behavior on SPARC! : I have seen the behavior on both black hardware and HP's running NS. The : solution has been to not mount directories to the local machines via NFS and : to use links instead. (I have seen this problem at least back to NS 3.0). : Getting rid of these self-mounts makes the whole thing much more stable. Very : annoying though because it is so easy to just export things like user : directories to the domain /. Instead you have to exclude the server somehow. As it turned out later, the crashes I experienced had nothing to do with the NFS imports of locally exported filesystems but with two SCSI drives which disagreed to be on the same bus. My solution to get rid of the self mounts is: 1) create a symlink on the server which has the name of the import and points to the exported directory. 2) Export the directory to / 3) Import the directory to / under the global name. NeXTSTEP will not mount something on top of the symbolic link, so you're safe. Example: I have a directory /bigdisk/LocalApps which should be exported and imported by all clients under /LocalApps. I made a link on /: buran root 1 (~): cd / buran root 2 (/): ln -s bigdisk/LocalApps buran kiwi 1 (/): ls -lagd /LocalApps lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 18 Dec 3 15:29 /LocalApps -> bigdisk/LocalApps@ I imported buran:/bigdisk/LocalApps as /LocalApps on the / domain. When the server is booted, it will not mount buran:/bigdisk/LocalApps on /LocalApps because of the symlink, the clients mount the dir just fine. HTH -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: "Bartley R. Troyan" <bt26+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Cube Freezes Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 08:13:46 -0500 Organization: Senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Mkxv0_W00iVGQ0vGAS@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <4cheqi$pj4@news.onramp.net> <DL3ssx.7rv@sounds.wa.com> In-Reply-To: <DL3ssx.7rv@sounds.wa.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.bugs: 13-Jan-96 Re: Cube Freezes by Brian Willoughby@sounds. > Would you happen to be running NEXTSTEP Release 3.3? > > I have been experiencing random panics or lockups (keyboard dead, Cmd-~ does > NOT work, only Alt-Cmd-* is responsive). This occurs when the login window > is up, or when the screensaver is active if I do not log out. > > When there is a panic instead of a total freeze up, the little window > sometimes indicates some sort of pointer error while walking the virtual > memory tables. It might have mentioned the MMU, but all the recent problems > have been a frozen screen with no panic info, and I've forgotten what I used > to see. > > Configuration: '040 NeXTcube with 40 MB, NeXTdimension board with 48 MB, > Maxtor 1.2 GB and Seagate 405 MB (from NeXT). > > My hunch is that your drive is not causing this, but I only say that because > my Maxtor, which has been running constantly for over 3 years, was recently > replaced because it had difficulty spinning up, and there was no apparent > improvement in the freeze-up/lockup since then (although the drive data does > often get damaged by the crash). I also have the 3.3 patch, and that has > not completely fixed the problem. I have a turbo nextstation running 3.3patched. I experienced lockups, freezes, and panics very similar to the above mentioned ones. They only occured after I installed some extra memory (I upgraded to 48mb with some spare simms I borrowed from someone). Turns out the simms were not "parity memory" and when I took them out (and dropped back to 16mb) the problems disappeared. Could the memory be your problem? Bart --- Bartley Troyan bart@barroom.res.cmu.edu http://barroom.res.cmu.edu/ NeXTmail/MIME welcome ...the maestro says it's Mozart, but it sounds like bubblegum--- _NBK_
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Creating a swapfile on 2nd drive (was Re: My swapfile solution) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 09:39:34 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960113093531.841A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4d4fp3$hbs@news.eecs.umich.edu> On 12 Jan 1996, Roland Telfeyan wrote: > "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes > > Someone with a big heart really should put together a FAQ on this > > subject... it could be done almost as simply as going through posts from > > the last few months. > > There is a complete and very helpful explanation of setting up alternate > swapfiles in NeXTAnswers. > > Well, since the questions concerning swapfiles and swapdisks had been quite prevalent, I might tend to disagree. That's why I followed my own suggestion and created (what I consider) my first real contribution to the NeXTWorld by created an FAQ on this topic, which can be found at ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/documents/Swapfile_and_Swapdisk_FAQ_Version_1.0.README ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/documents/Swapfile_and_Swapdisk_FAQ_Version_1.0.tar.gz And I haven't seen many posts about it since then, so I must assume people found my FAQ to be superbly helpful ;-) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Everything is easy when you know what you are doing" Dr. Robert Cupper, Department of Computer Science, Allegheny College, Meadville, PA
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Cube Freezes Date: 13 Jan 1996 16:31:27 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <4d8mov$arf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <4cheqi$pj4@news.onramp.net> <DL3ssx.7rv@sounds.wa.com> brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) writes: >In article <4cheqi$pj4@news.onramp.net>, >James_W_McKelvey <mckelvey@suite.com> wrote: >>I have a serious problem in that my Cube "freezes up": the keyboard is dead, >>and usually the cursor disappears. I then have to reboot via CMD-~ and r, >>but I always have to do that twice. >Would you happen to be running NEXTSTEP Release 3.3? >I have been experiencing random panics or lockups (keyboard dead, Cmd-~ does >NOT work, only Alt-Cmd-* is responsive). This occurs when the login window >is up, or when the screensaver is active if I do not log out. >When there is a panic instead of a total freeze up, the little window >sometimes indicates some sort of pointer error while walking the virtual >memory tables. It might have mentioned the MMU, but all the recent problems >have been a frozen screen with no panic info, and I've forgotten what I used >to see. >Configuration: '040 NeXTcube with 40 MB, NeXTdimension board with 48 MB, >Maxtor 1.2 GB and Seagate 405 MB (from NeXT). I've seen this behavior several times, though not with the login window. I suspect it's something in the SCSI bus, because: - It happened a lot last year with the following configuration: '040 Turbo Cube with 32MB, NeXTdimension board with 48MB, Seagate Barracuda 2.1GB and Micropolis 1.0GB. OS: 3.3 An Apple CD-300 CD-ROM. Bernoulli 150 MB Transportable and a Archive Python DAT tape drive on the SCSI chain. I got repeated panics and runaway processes. I'd have to reformat the drives too often. Finally i replaced the Micropolis with the original Quantum 406MB and mounted either the DAT drive or Bernoulli, but not both, and 3.3 seemed to behave. (Months later a friend borrowed the Micropolis. His SPARCstation would not even format it on account of 30% bad sectors!) - A week ago a client gave me a 150MB Bernoulli disk formatted for DOS to put his scanned images on. When mounted Wrokspace manager gave it a DOS CD-ROM icon, and the system paniced every time I tried to open the volume. I final;y used sdformat (Thanks again, Brian!!!) to do a low-level format, launched Daydream into MacOS 7.5 and formatted it as a DOS disk. No problem from then on. (Oh, btw, the client originally formatted the disk with Windows '95!) -- Steve Weintz * Partner, New Media, Ltd. P.O. Box 742 * Urbana, IL 61801 steve@dave-world.net * 217.344.5303 * 217.344.8981 fax Staff Visioneer, Beckman Institute Visualization Facility * indy@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP's Mac HFS filesystem suport is ridiculous... Message-ID: <DKuv52.7n@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) References: <1995Dec29.051859.10666@media.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:17:25 GMT In article <1995Dec29.051859.10666@media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes: > Having just trashed a Mac gig drive for the nth time under NEXTSTEP > by doing nothing more innocuous than dragging a couple of folders > on to it, I'm really sick of this... I've avoided writing up a bug Well the HFS support really is a nightmare. But as far as I can see there are few bugs/situatiosns that happen to be reproducable. On Intel Mac floppy handling often halts or totally crashes the system when you try to eject the disk after writing some data onto it. But only with certain machines ?! (Intel hardware problem ??) Also the handling of resource forks is really nasty. Try to give a good excuse to some user for "why his files don't work on the mac when he just copied them from a Mac floppy to his NeXT and back on a Mac floppy again." Ok...this is no help. Just a verification that the bug is not related to the continent you are living on. ;-) Aloha tomi -- _________________________________________________________ (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel Neptunstr. 9 NeXTMail welcome D - 90522 Oberasbach Germany
From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: HELP! Sound doesn't work Date: 14 Jan 1996 00:23:16 GMT Organization: a black NeXT Message-ID: <4d9idk$mse@news.vanderbilt.edu> Hi, I have got a system with Asus board ELSA Winner DTP2024 Bus Mouse irq 4 SoundBlaster16 Value irq 5 and the only thing I can't get to work somehow reliably is the soundcard. It is configured as it came irq 5 dma 1, 5 at 0x220 and works sometimes for playback and almost never for recording. I have got the latest drivers installed v3.32 ISA/EISA v3.31 the PCI Host Bridge as recommended ... Everything as it should work. I also verified the jumpers on the soundboard and the bus-mouse board Still, if I try to play a sound I get a *pop* on the speakers or if I am lucky the sound will play. If I try to record sometimes the peakmeter shows the incoming sound but as i hit the stop button the sound will not appear in the Sound.app (or whatever else I use) panel. In my applications I am using NXSoundOut streams, there I am not getting delegate messages if the streams are underrunning - hence the streams don't get recycled and soon there is no sound nomore. All this stuff is working very nicely on NeXT hardware. (the same problem occurs if I am running XoX) Has anyone resolved such problems - I can't imagine that everyone silently accepts such unreliable sound performance - hence I am still looking for some flaw in my system. Cat. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Thomas Katzlberger _/_/ _/_/ katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu _/_/ _/_/ @aBlackNeXT.called.garfield _/_/ _/_/ http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~katzlbt/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." _/_/ _/_/ UNIX man page for tunefs. _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: large snd files..... Date: 14 Jan 1996 01:36:09 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4d9mm9$a6v@news.its.com> References: <4cpbsh$rgi@murphy.servtech.com> Arvind Soni <asoni@servtech.com> wrote: > I have noticed that when I have snd files larger than about 40-45 Megs, I > can't play them with any app (resound, GISO, etc). Anyone else notice this > problem or can give me any insight on my problem? I suspect that this is because of the way that the linker normally places portions of the executable and shared libraries into memory. You have to muck with some linker options when you try to fit more than 40 or so MB of your own executable code into a binary because of the default location that one of the shared libaries normally gets mapped into the processes' address space. Since the various sound apps presumably try to map the sound file into VM with a Mach call, this will fail when you try to map in a huge sound file. The solution would probably be to buffer the sound file in smaller pieces. Of course, I could be wrong, but it's a reasonable first guess. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: No man page for "fstab" Message-ID: <RDL.96Jan14141736@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 19:17:36 GMT There is no man page for "fstab" in the NS3.3 distribution even though other man pages reference it. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 15 Jan 1996 05:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4dcnsu$m5@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Oops! Real NeXT blooper ... Date: 15 Jan 1996 09:36:16 GMT Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4dd76g$quv@news.next.com> References: <4d4soo$3v8@news.duke.edu> <DL38DG.ACC@cunews.carleton.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Versions: makemail 2.8f In article <DL38DG.ACC@cunews.carleton.ca>, Chris Saldanha <csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca> wrote: >Lee Altenberg (altenber@acpub.duke.edu) wrote: >: I discovered a real NeXT blooper. In NS3.3, NeXT accidentally >: overwrote the file "Application.rtf" in the directory >: /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/GeneralRef/02_ApplicationKit/Classes/ >: by the file "ActionCell.rtf"! I had to fetch "Application.rtf" from NS3.2. >: Anyone ever notice this before? NeXT didn't include it in their 3.3 patch. > >Yes, it's been posted before. > >Is there a valid copy of the 3.3Dev Application.rtf available? I >re-inserted the 3.2 one and re-indexed, but I think it's not complete (ie >with new 3.3 methods). I think there's a correct an application.rtf in NeXTanswers, maybe as 2056. --Dan -- Dan Grillo dan@next.com 415 780-2963 MIME, NeXTmail accepted
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: large snd files..... Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:37:41 +0100 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960115163443.10200C-100000@hphalle7a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <4cpbsh$rgi@murphy.servtech.com> <4d9mm9$a6v@news.its.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4d9mm9$a6v@news.its.com> On 14 Jan 1996, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Arvind Soni <asoni@servtech.com> wrote: > > I have noticed that when I have snd files larger than about 40-45 Megs, I > > can't play them with any app (resound, GISO, etc). Anyone else notice this > > problem or can give me any insight on my problem? > > I suspect that this is because of the way that the linker normally places > portions of the executable and shared libraries into memory. You have to > muck with some linker options when you try to fit more than 40 or so MB of > your own executable code into a binary because of the default location that > one of the shared libaries normally gets mapped into the processes' address > space. > > Since the various sound apps presumably try to map the sound file into VM > with a Mach call, this will fail when you try to map in a huge sound file. > The solution would probably be to buffer the sound file in smaller pieces. > > Of course, I could be wrong, but it's a reasonable first guess. :-) Try to use my SASoundStudio. It is able to play sounds of any length (even ATC) and does recording also. It's best recording is: 44.1kHz/Stereo/ATC-compression. E.g. you can record 3mins of HQ sound in ATC compression and result in only 10MB vs. 40MB normal recording. Get it from peanuts: ftp.peanuts.org:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Audio/apps/SASoundStudio* Warning: it's still alpha. Greetings, Boerny. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Shutdown crashes system with serial printer! Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:45:30 +0100 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960115164055.10200D-100000@hphalle7a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I noticed a bug in the system: - the system refuses to shutdown correctly (it just hangs) When does this behaviour occur? Really seldom: - I attached a serial printer for testing - I removed the printer after testing, but didn't remove the printer entry in PrintManager. - I attached my modem again to the port previously used for the test printer. Noticing results: - The modem doesn't work if connected to the port. Attention of the modem is on. - System shutdown hangs the machine. All this noticed on: - Intel - NS 3.3 - Patch1 - Using serial port B for the printer/modem. Greetings, Boerny. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu (Bill Bereza) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: No man page for "fstab" Date: 15 Jan 1996 16:12:03 GMT Organization: Grand Valley State University Message-ID: <4dducj$4pd@news.it.gvsu.edu> References: <RDL.96Jan14141736@world.std.com> In article <RDL.96Jan14141736@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) writes: > There is no man page for "fstab" in the NS3.3 distribution > even though other man pages reference it. Check the mntent(5) manpage. -- Bill Bereza berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu <NeXT/MIME> Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Using /tmp when booting from CD-ROM Date: 15 Jan 1996 17:14:31 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4de21n$6k0@news.its.com> References: <4cnpan$qc2@usenet.rpi.edu> <DKtpww.zx@RnA.NL> <ebuocrbfm.fsf@steffi.accessone.com> robert@steffi.accessone.com (Robert Nicholson) wrote: > The other week I really screwed up and had my fstab like this. [ ... ] > What else could I have done? The easiest thing to do would be to move the drive to another machine that is not screwed up (obviously changing the SCSI ID to a high number). Failing that, I'd probably try to boot from CD-ROM (or a bootable floppy if you have one lying around) single-user. -Chuck Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de> Subject: problem: faxes get queued 'asap' Message-ID: <7xbuo5vu27.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de Organization: hardly any... Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 00:53:36 GMT hi! when i send a fax (using NXFax 1.04) 'at a later time' they get queued 'asap' nevertheless. what is wrong? markus g -- / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __ __/ __ __ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the mole / / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . tm@burrow.muc.de __/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.muc.de/~mgloede/
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: 3D Kit bug with triangle meshes Date: 15 Jan 1996 21:46:15 -0500 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <4df3hn$svg@news.duke.edu> I've discovered a bug in the 3D kit. You can plot a 3D surface using RiPointsPolygons() with a mesh of either quadrilaterals or triangles, where the triangles come from dividing each quadrilateral into 2. With triangles, the surface shading does not work using N3D_SmoothSolids. The shading no longer bears any relation to the light sources. With quadrilaterals, however, N3D_SmoothSolids works fine. Has anyone had any experience with this bug and any workaround for triangle meshes? Thanks, Lee Altenberg altenber@mhpcc.edu
From: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Bug or feature? Date: 16 Jan 1996 07:05:13 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <4dfin9$fme@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi net! Running apps remotely works perfectly for me except with Mail.app. Is this app special and has to be treated differently or is this just a plain bug? Transcript follows... narya:wilkie> Mail -NXHost markab.cslab.tuwien.ac.at & [3] 8798 /NextApps/Mail.app narya:wilkie> No nib file found for Mail.nib [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/EnhanceMail.bundle] No nib file found for Preferences.nib No nib file found for mailbox.nib [Mail: Caught signal #10; terminating safely] [3] Done Mail -NXHost markab.cslab.tuwien.ac.at /NextApps/Mail.app narya:wilkie> Any ideas? Other apps in /NextApps like e.g. Edit.app work o.k. ys Alexander Wilkie -- e-mail: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME o.k.) www : http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~wilkie/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: hans@vuur (Hans Mulder) Subject: setting $path (was Re: root) Message-ID: <DL9ts0.KxD@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: IC Group References: <4csv63$1n52@saba.info.ucla.edu> <4d6m01$bl5@digdug.pswtech.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:12:00 GMT In <4d6m01$bl5@digdug.pswtech.com> dmi@demandmedia.com wrote: [ Lots of things, aong them: ] : See if that helps any. If not, then re-create the ".cshrc" file. It should : read: : ############################## CUT HERE ############################## : # : # Default .cshrc file for root. : # : # set up the path : set path=(/etc /usr/etc /usr/ucb /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin /usr/sybase/bin : /LocalApps /NextApps /NextAdmin) Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand why anyone would want to put /NextApps or /NextAdmin in their $path. Those directories do not contain any executable images that one could run from the shell; they contain only app wrappers. You can't run an app wrapper from the shell (you can run the executable image it contains, but to do that you'd have to include the app wrapper itself in your $path, not the directory containing the wrapper). Am I overlooking something, or is the default supplied by NeXT as useless as I think it is? -- Just wondering, Hans Mulder hans@icgned.nl
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: setting $path (was Re: root) Date: 16 Jan 1996 17:44:18 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <CRATH.96Jan16124418@bmerhe83.bnr.ca> References: <4csv63$1n52@saba.info.ucla.edu> <4d6m01$bl5@digdug.pswtech.com> <DL9ts0.KxD@icgned.nl> In-reply-to: hans@vuur's message of Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:12:00 GMT In article <DL9ts0.KxD@icgned.nl> hans@vuur (Hans Mulder) writes: > ... > Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand why anyone would > want to put /NextApps or /NextAdmin in their $path. Those directories > do not contain any executable images that one could run from the shell; > they contain only app wrappers. You can't run an app wrapper from the > shell (you can run the executable image it contains, but to do that > you'd have to include the app wrapper itself in your $path, not the > directory containing the wrapper). > > Am I overlooking something, or is the default supplied by NeXT as useless > as I think it is? > ... This is a hold-over from ealier releases of NEXTSTEP. In previous releases, not all applications were delivered in app-wrappers, many applications (Edit, for example) were standalone executables. Thus, it was useful to put /NextApps & /NextAdmin on your PATH. I understand NeXT's reasons for still including them. It doesn't cause any problem to leave them there, and just in case you ever mount your home directory somewhere else, and log into an older version of NEXTSTEP you experience the behaviour you expect there. Christopher -- === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Bell-Northern Research | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Bug or feature? In-Reply-To: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at's message of 16 Jan 1996 07:05:13 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.96Jan16200400@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <4dfin9$fme@news.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:04:00 GMT I can't say for sure but it looks like the EnhanceMail bundle is causing most of your problems. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com In article <4dfin9$fme@news.tuwien.ac.at> wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie) writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.bugs:3684 Path: world!news.mtholyoke.edu!uhog.mit.edu!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.tuwien.ac.at!news From: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 16 Jan 1996 07:05:13 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: narya.cg.tuwien.ac.at X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.81) Hi net! Running apps remotely works perfectly for me except with Mail.app. Is this app special and has to be treated differently or is this just a plain bug? Transcript follows... narya:wilkie> Mail -NXHost markab.cslab.tuwien.ac.at & [3] 8798 /NextApps/Mail.app narya:wilkie> No nib file found for Mail.nib [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/EnhanceMail.bundle] No nib file found for Preferences.nib No nib file found for mailbox.nib [Mail: Caught signal #10; terminating safely] [3] Done Mail -NXHost markab.cslab.tuwien.ac.at /NextApps/Mail.app narya:wilkie> Any ideas? Other apps in /NextApps like e.g. Edit.app work o.k. ys Alexander Wilkie -- e-mail: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME o.k.) www : http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~wilkie/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: Cube Freezes Message-ID: <DLCHtL.3wB@sounds.wa.com> Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <4cheqi$pj4@news.onramp.net> <DL3ssx.7rv@sounds.wa.com> <Mkxv0_W00iVGQ0vGAS@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 21:46:33 GMT In article <Mkxv0_W00iVGQ0vGAS@andrew.cmu.edu>, Bartley R. Troyan <bt26+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: >I have a turbo nextstation running 3.3patched. I experienced lockups, >freezes, and panics very similar to the above mentioned ones. They only >occured after I installed some extra memory (I upgraded to 48mb with >some spare simms I borrowed from someone). Turns out the simms were not >"parity memory" and when I took them out (and dropped back to 16mb) the >problems disappeared. > >Could the memory be your problem? No. I have had the same 40 MB on my Cube motherboard since well before I installed 3.3 or the 3.3 patch. I have fully loaded down the machine, so I am sure that every byte of memory has been extensively tested. -- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA <http://nwlink.com/cyberartists/brianw/brianw.html>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: '040 serial ports lock up intermittently under 3.3 Message-ID: <DLCII7.4CL@sounds.wa.com> Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <DL3HJx.5qF@sounds.wa.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 22:01:18 GMT More info (following up to my own article): I completely replaced Taylor UUCP on my system yesterday, substituting NeXT's UUCP as shipped with release 3.3 (patched). On two separate occasions, serial port B locked up and getty would not accept logins from the attached modem. Each time, the lockup happened after a successful uupoll as scheduled in my /etc/crontab.local Restting the modem and sending 'getty' a HANGUP signal still did NOT reenable login via dialup. The only way to fix this was to set non-exclusive use mode (see TIOCNXCL in tty.4) for /dev/cufb from a program running as root. Unfortunately, I was told by an individual at NeXT's Technical Support that NeXT does not support their UUCP system. This seems quite odd considering that NeXT provides printed documentation on how to set up their UUCP package, and it still ships with the operating system. -- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA <http://nwlink.com/cyberartists/brianw/brianw.html>
From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: SoundBlaster16 DRIVER BUG FOUND ! Date: 17 Jan 1996 23:31:06 GMT Organization: a black NeXT Message-ID: <4dk0rq$pfq@news.vanderbilt.edu> I found the problem in the newest driver for SoundBlaster16 v3.32! Description: Playback capabilities are decreased, System Beeps will play only once, possibly twice, then sound can't be played for several seconds. Recording very unlikely to succeed. Why: My computer is too fast (133MHz) Verification: I enabled DPMS (Power Management) and slowed my computer down by the factor 2. Executing in slow mode the driver works perfectly as it should. After speeding the computer up again by a keystroke all malfunctions were as before. I don't wonder that NeXT didn't find this bug, but I wonder why it just affects the SoundBlaster Driver. Temporary fix: Use the SoundBlaster16 v3.30 driver it works much better for playback but not at all for recording. Hope this helps, Cat. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Thomas Katzlberger _/_/ _/_/ katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu _/_/ _/_/ @aWhiteNeXT.called.garfield _/_/ _/_/ http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~katzlbt/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." _/_/ _/_/ UNIX man page for tunefs. _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: TeXview.app chokes finding file path Date: 18 Jan 1996 02:37:27 -0500 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <4dktbn$d9b@news.duke.edu> In NEXTSTEP 3.3/Intel, TeXview.app is having a problem in finding the path to documents. It can open *.tex files only when they are in my home directory. This occurs in every case I could try: when typing the full pathname into the Text field of the Document->open menu, when double clicking from the File Viewer, etc. Here is what it reports to Console: ----------------------------------------------------- - latex -v "SFIreport" This is CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141 ! I can't find file `Local.tex'. <*> Local Please type another input file name: ----------------------------------------------------- When TeXview.app is launched by TeXmenu.app, however, TeXview.app finds the files in their proper directory. Also, TeXview.app doesn't insert *.eps files properly when calling dvips unless the abolute path name is given in the *.tex file. These are all problems new to 3.3. If you have seen this bug, and if you know of any fix, please let me know. Thanks, Lee Altenberg Maui High Performance Computing Center altenber@mhpcc.edu
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: TeXview.app chokes finding file path Date: 18 Jan 1996 03:07:19 -0500 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <4dkv3n$dbp@news.duke.edu> I discovered that the path finding problem in TeXview.app is not due to the app alone, but to its interaction with NS/I 3.3. I found this out because when I run a copy of TeXview.app from NS/I 3.2 on a NS/I 3.3 system, it has the same path finding problem as does the TeXview.app from 3.3 (both TeXview.app's say version 3.0, even though the files differ). On a NS/I 3.2 system, this problem doesn't happen. Also, very wierdly, when I double-clicked in the FileViewer a file ~/TESTS/test.tex, TeXview.app proceeded to open: - tex -v "test" This is CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141 (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/test.tex (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) [1] ) Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 4116 bytes). Transcript written on test.log. The files test.dvi and test.log were written not in the subdirectory ~/TESTS, but in my home directory ~ ! PLEASE HELP! TeXview.app is a core program for me! Thanks, Lee Altenberg altenber@mhpcc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda) Subject: Re: Cube Freezes Message-ID: <DLDMAI.1xL@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid References: <4cheqi$pj4@news.onramp.net> <DL3ssx.7rv@sounds.wa.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 12:20:42 GMT The symptoms Brian describe are possibly the infamous undetectable serial driver problem that appeared on some 040 systems (upgraded Cube, Brian?) Brian, do theese panics and freezes occur just after serial activity? Do you run Taylor UUCP? If you do, you are one of the unhappy few that have this problem (it made me upgrade my 25MHz 040 upgraded cube to a Turbo Cube and I haven't had the problem since. My gut feeling is that it is related to a hardware problem on early 040 boards, maybe to do with DMA.
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Sound.app vs sndrecord Date: 18 Jan 1996 13:10:05 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4dlgre$vf@turbocat.snafu.de> Hi! I have an Intel running NS3.3 pl1 with MS-sound system. Sndrecord works all the time but Sound.app only sometimes. Why? _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: dlk@genesis.tamu.edu (Darrell Kristof) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Hang on REBOOT NS3.3 Intel Date: 18 Jan 1996 16:33:48 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Message-ID: <4dlspc$n67@news.tamu.edu> Howdy, Got a problem that has been puzzling me for some time now. When I login as "root" and open a terminal session to issue "shutdown -r now" and the system reboots most of the time it will come back up and hang trying try start "NeXT Services pbs exec_faxes". Then I have to power down, let it rebuild the /dev/rsd0 and reboot once more and then its seems to come up just fine. Even if I try to do this remotely from antoher "remote terminal" it does the same thing. I'll su to root and then "shutdown -r now" and the system will shutdown and reboot, but usually it will die everytime upon reboot. Until you physically go power down and try to boot again. Can any one help, or anyone else having similar problem? TIA. I would appreaciate it if you would please send me your replys, as I usually don't have time to read this newsgroup (or an of them for that matter) ;). Darrell dlk@tamu.edu -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Darrell Kristof, CNA Networking/Software Consultant | | DRAKE/Novell Certified NetWare Administrator | | Texas A&M University Computing and Information Services |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: brad@instep.bc.ca Subject: Re: '040 serial ports lock up intermittently under 3.3 Message-ID: <1996Jan18.180009.20912@instep.bc.ca> Sender: usenet@instep.bc.ca Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <DLCII7.4CL@sounds.wa.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 18:00:09 GMT Brian Willoughby writes >More info (following up to my own article): > >I completely replaced Taylor UUCP on my system yesterday, substituting >NeXT's UUCP as shipped with release 3.3 (patched). > >On two separate occasions, serial port B locked up and getty would not >accept logins from the attached modem. Each time, the lockup happened >after a successful uupoll as scheduled in my /etc/crontab.local > >Restting the modem and sending 'getty' a HANGUP signal still did NOT >reenable login via dialup. The only way to fix this was to set >non-exclusive use mode (see TIOCNXCL in tty.4) for /dev/cufb from a >program running as root. > >Unfortunately, I was told by an individual at NeXT's Technical Support >that NeXT does not support their UUCP system. This seems quite odd >considering that NeXT provides printed documentation on how to set up >their UUCP package, and it still ships with the operating system. >-- I had a similar problem. At first I thought it was Taylor UUCP, so I removed it in favour of Version 2 UUCP (the bundled version). But, the problem never went away. Occasionaly, the serial port would remain in some weird state after a call out or call in leaving getty suspended trying to open the port. Hence getty would fail to answer the line, when carrier becomes present. I discovered that if a process were to re-open the port then close it, it would seem to leave the port in a sane state that getty can cope with. From a problem with Version 2 uuxqt leaving sendmail processes suspended, most likely due to improper detaching, I added to my replacement for uuxqt a call to open and close the serial port in question. This seems to have solved the problem for the most part. The weird thing is that this is ONLY happening at our office UUCP host and not at my home NeXTstation, also running UUCP. Anyway, here's the patch I used. And a Makefile to install it: ======== cut here ========= /* *--------------------------------------------------------------------------- $Id: uuxqt.c,v 1.7 1995/12/20 22:22:21 root Exp $ Copyleft (l) 1995 by Brad Head and Glen Biagioni * All rights granted to redistribute this to the public domain. *--------------------------------------------------------------------------- * */ #include <sys/file.h> #include <sys/param.h> #include <sys/ioctl.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <errno.h> #include <pwd.h> #include <time.h> const char * uucp_timestamp(); void main(int argc, char *argv[], char *envp[]) { const char * uuname = "instep"; register int fd = -1; FILE * log = NULL; struct passwd * pwd = getpwuid(getuid()); if (setpgrp(0, getpid()) == -1) perror("setpgrp"); if ( (fd = open("/dev/tty", O_RDONLY)) >= 0) { ioctl(fd, TIOCNOTTY, (char *)NULL); // lose controlling tty close(fd); } if (log = fopen("/usr/spool/uucp/LOGFILE", "a+")) { fprintf(log, "%s %s (%s-%d) CUSTOM UUXQT (exec " "/usr/lib/uucp/uuxqt.std)\n", pwd->pw_name, uuname, uucp_timestamp(), getpid()); } if (fd = open("/dev/cufa", O_RDWR|O_NDELAY)) { if (log) fprintf(log, "%s %s (%s-%d) CUSTOM UUXQT (open & close " "/dev/cufa)\n", pwd->pw_name, uuname, uucp_timestamp(), getpid()); close(fd); } if (fd = open("/dev/cufb", O_RDWR|O_NDELAY)) { if (log) fprintf(log, "%s %s (%s-%d) CUSTOM UUXQT (open & close " "/dev/cufb)\n", pwd->pw_name, uuname, uucp_timestamp(), getpid()); close(fd); } if (log) fclose(log); // Close any open files descriptors, other than STDIN,STDOUT,STDERR for (fd = 3; fd < NOFILE; fd++) close(fd); errno = 0; // may have got set to EBADF from a close. execve("/usr/lib/uucp/uuxqt.std", argv, envp); exit(0); } const char * uucp_timestamp() { static char ts[255]; struct tm * t = NULL; time_t now; time(&now); t = localtime(&now); sprintf(ts,"%02d/%02d-%02d:%02d", t->tm_mon+1,t->tm_mday, t->tm_hour,t->tm_min); return ts; } ====== Makefile ====== # # Makefile for uuxqt.c - custom uuxqt to fix problem with uuxqt. # #$Id: Makefile,v 1.2 1995/12/20 22:17:06 root Exp $ # # CC = /bin/cc STRIP = /bin/strip CP = /bin/cp RM = /bin/rm MV = /bin/mv CHOWN = /etc/chown CHMOD = /bin/chmod ECHO = /bin/echo #CFLAGS = -O -arch m68k -arch i386 #CFLAGS = -O -arch m68k #CFLAGS = -O -DDEBUG CFLAGS = -O INSTALLDIR = /usr/lib/uucp all:: uuxqt uuxqt: uuxqt.c $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -o uuxqt uuxqt.c install: uuxqt uninstall -@$(ECHO) "installing" $(MV) -f $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt.std $(CP) uuxqt $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt $(STRIP) $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt $(CHOWN) uucp.daemon $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt $(CHMOD) 6111 $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt clean: $(RM) -f uuxqt.o uuxqt uninstall: -@(if [ -f $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt.std -a -f $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt ] ; then \ $(ECHO) "un-installing" ; \ $(ECHO) $(RM) -f $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt ; \ $(RM) -f $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt ; \ $(MV) -f $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt.std $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt ; \ $(ECHO) $(MV) -f $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt.std $(INSTALLDIR)/uuxqt ; \ fi) -- Brad Head <brad@instep.bc.ca> _ __o Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. ___ `\<, Atomic Racing Club, Vancouver, BC, Canada - O/ O
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Oops! Real NeXT blooper ... Date: 19 Jan 1996 08:42:30 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4dnlhm$d9@turbocat.snafu.de> References: <4d4soo$3v8@news.duke.edu> <DL38DG.ACC@cunews.carleton.ca> <4dd76g$quv@news.next.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit grio@next.com (Dan Grillo) wrote: > > I think there's a correct an application.rtf in NeXTanswers, maybe as 2056. I just got NA #2056 via NeXTMail. I think, its an old one - is it? Release 3.2 Copyright ª1993 by NeXT Computer, Inc. All Rights Reserved. (empty lines deleted) Application (...) > Dan Grillo dan@next.com 415 780-2963 MIME, NeXTmail accepted -- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu (Michael Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: TeXview.app chokes finding file path Date: 21 Jan 1996 23:52:50 GMT Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-8285 Message-ID: <4dujki$90i@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <4dktbn$d9b@news.duke.edu> Lee Altenberg (altenber@acpub.duke.edu) wrote: : In NEXTSTEP 3.3/Intel, TeXview.app is having a problem in finding the : path to documents. Check out the environment variable TEXINPUTS. This is a colon-separated list of directories that tex/latex searches when looking for .tex and other input files. A typical value might be .:..:/usr/lib/tex/inputs which says to search first in your working directory, then the parent directory, then /usr/lib/tex/inputs (which is where the standard style files are located in NEXTSTEP). If TEXINPUTS isn't defined, then a standard default path is used. From the symptoms you describe in your two postings, it sounds like you might have TEXINPUTS defined to not contain ".". Apparently when TeXview.app runs tex or latex, it first creates a shell (csh for me), which in turn runs the usual startup script ".cshrc". You can set TEXINPUTS there by including a line setenv TEXINPUTS .:..:/usr/lib/tex/inputs or if you want to use the default search path, make sure TEXINPUTS is not set by including a line unsetenv TEXINPUTS A trick for seeing what environment your tex/latex programs are actually running in is to create a temporary directory and put two files there -- a small tex/latex file "test.tex" and the following 2-line shell script: #!/bin/csh -f printenv Name the shell script "latex", and change its permissions to make it executable. Now, assuming your search path variable PATH includes "." (it usually does), when you open "test.tex" in TeXview and then click on "LaTeX" , TeXview will be fooled into running your script instead of the real latex, causing the current environment to be printed out in the TeX Command Window. ================================================== | Michael Fischer <fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu> | | Professor of Computer Science | ==================================================
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From: gq (G. Quinonez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: DOS download is not able to save to DOS floppy using NSFIP3.3? Date: 22 Jan 1996 06:51:27 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <4dvc5f$p36@saba.info.ucla.edu> Hello everyone. Ive been getting a message that reads: File error for /diamond/gtw.exe: Invalid argument Diamond is the name of the DOS formatted disk under NSFIP. I formatted this diskette with the workspace manager using initialize and named it Diamond. The file that I downloaded(using OmniWEB beta 2) from the net was a DOS executable file called GTW.EXE and initially opens as ascii file using Edit.app. Then I try to use "save as" from the Edit menu and try to save it to the diskette and I get the message as above. Then, I saved the file to the hard drive, and tried to drag it to the DOS diskette and I got the Processes panel and said again... File error for /diamond/gtw.exe: Invalid argument Then STOP and Proceed buttons appear. I choose stop of course. Can anyone show me the correct way to download a DOS or Mac file in NeXTStep3.3 FIP and save it to a respectively formatted disk under NeXT. Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong? Thanks to whoever responds. Please email to my address quinonez@ucla.edu ==================================================== G. Quinonez NeXTStep 3.3 FIP __ "I'm not sure we understand everything /\__/\ we know about this." \/__\/ Charles M. Abernathy, Sr. ==================================================== NeXTMail/MIME: quinonez@ucla.edu (preferred) Plain text only: gquinonez@medstudent.medsch.ucla.edu MIME & Plain text: gquinonez@mem.po.com ====================================================
From: h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (Guenther Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Fax problem Date: 22 Jan 1996 13:59:48 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration Message-ID: <4e058k$56k@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> Hi, I am running NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a HP PA RISC workstation. I am using a US Robotics Sportster 28,800 Fax Modem, and it just works fine with one exception: I refuses to go into fax mode. I have installed the following fax driver: JollysClass2_Fax.0.70.b However, if I try to start faxing, my modem doesn't even dial, although it tries to send something away (recognizeable if you look on the LEDs). After some minutes I get the following information: 'There is no fax modem connected to the serial port. Check the cables and fax modem and try again.' However my modem just works fine for internet purposes (so it is pressumably connected to the serial port in a correct manner). There is also one thing: After an unsuccessful fax try, my modem seems to have troubles if I instantly try to go into the internet. What actually happens is, that my modem hangs suddenly up. After a reboot, my modem works fine (internet). Who is able to give me a hint what to do? Thanks in advance Guenther h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at or Guenther.Bauer@giga.or.at
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: DOS download is not able to save to DOS floppy using NSFIP3.3? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 12:35:56 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960122123034.5386A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dvc5f$p36@saba.info.ucla.edu> On 22 Jan 1996, G. Quinonez wrote: > Hello everyone. > > Ive been getting a message that reads: > > File error for /diamond/gtw.exe: Invalid argument > > Can anyone show me the correct way to download a DOS or Mac file in > NeXTStep3.3 FIP and save it to a respectively formatted disk under NeXT. > Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong? > Please email to my address quinonez@ucla.edu The only times I've seen these messages is when I try to copy a file that has too many letters (8.3) or has a capital letter or when I try to save to a disk that has the write-tab turned on that's all I can offer -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Everything is easy when you know what you are doing" Dr. Robert Cupper, Department of Computer Science, Allegheny College, Meadville, PA
From: mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Sound.app vs sndrecord Date: 22 Jan 1996 22:05:50 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4e11nu$drn@news.next.com> References: <4dlgre$vf@turbocat.snafu.de> David Wetzel writes > Hi! > > I have an Intel running NS3.3 pl1 with MS-sound system. > Sndrecord works all the time but Sound.app only sometimes. > Why? There are bugs in Sound.app, and there's a bug in the SoundKit that Sound.app tickles...Any one of these can cause problems with recording. -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: ton@yinyang.tiac.net (Terence C. O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Fax problem Date: 23 Jan 1996 03:10:04 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <4e1jic$5on@sundog.tiac.net> On 01/22/96, Guenther Bauer wrote: >Hi, > >I am running NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a HP PA RISC workstation. I am using >a US Robotics Sportster 28,800 Fax Modem, and it just works fine >with one exception: I refuses to go into fax mode. > >I have installed the following fax driver: JollysClass2_Fax.0.70.b > >However, if I try to start faxing, my modem doesn't even dial, >although it tries to send something away (recognizeable if you >look on the LEDs). > >After some minutes I get the following information: > >'There is no fax modem connected to the serial port. Check the >cables and fax modem and try again.' > The problem (as I unfortunately found out) is the USR Sportster. You need to get the mgetty+sendfax distribution. (I think you can find it at ftp.uu.net). This will work for the most part with the Sportster. Although I still have some minor problems, It is workable. Good Luck Terry -- ---- | Terry O'Neill ton@tiac.net / __ | Open Systems Consulting, Inc. NeXTMail/MIME /erry/ / | Principal (617) 848-2879 /_/'Neill | "There is no change without some pain......."
From: Kir Royale Limited <kiroyale@kiroyale.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: UK NeXT work Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 12:36:49 GMT Organization: Kir Royale Limited Distribution: world Message-ID: <72080827wnr@kiroyale.demon.co.uk> If you are interested in working in the UK on either a contract or a permanent basis then we *must* talk. I am looking for a large number of NeXTSTEP developers for four separate clients based in and around central London. All candidates must have at least 18 months NeXT experience. I am also looking for between 8 and 10 Analysts to work in the UK travelling and implementing systems throughout Europe. Contact: Duncan Campling All resumes/messages in plain text or uuencoded Word 6 formats only. Kir Royale Tel: +44 (0)181 224 6868 Fax: +44 (0)181 224 6767 E-Mail: kiroyale@kiroyale.demon.co.uk
From: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Bug or Feature - Solution Date: 24 Jan 1996 07:43:54 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <4e4nvq$lk7@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi all! Recently I posted something about myself being unable to remotely start Mail.app. Specifically, entering /NextApps/Mail.app> Mail -NXHost remotehost & did not work due to interference caused by EnhanceMail.bundle. The solution, as suggested by Rajashekhar Akula, Marcel Waldvogel and Lee Altenberg is to give Mail the complete path to the executable, e.g. /NextApps/Mail.app> /NextApps/Mail.app/Mail -NXHost remotehost & so that it can find it's own nib files after loading the Enhance.bundle. ys Alexander Wilkie -- e-mail: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME o.k.) www : http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~wilkie/
From: kjones@opus.freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Kieran Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: ThreeD V0.6 Error Report Date: 24 Jan 1996 23:41:27 GMT Organization: Vancouver Regional FreeNet Message-ID: <4e6g37$5v5@milo.freenet.vancouver.bc.ca> --------------------------------------------- ThreeD Version 0.6 Error Report 24-Jan-96 --------------------------------------------- Program: ThreeD V0.6 Description: NextStep 3D scene modeler. Location: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/software/NeXT/binaries/graphics/ File: ThreeD_06_NIHS.tar.Z Error: Although the ThreeD interface supports all six types of RenderMan shaders and allows any of the six to be specified for a shape, RenderMan itself implements only the Surface, Displacement and Light shader types. The Volume, Imager and Transformation shaders are not implemented at the RenderMan level and consequently have no effect on ThreeD's rendered output even if specified.
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Is NSString's compare:options:range: broken? Date: 27 Jan 1996 18:33:08 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4edr54$ao1@emerald.oz.net> I have been unable to get compare:options:range: to work in the manner I expect from the documentation. I expect the comparison to occur on only those characters in the specified range, but my experience suggests that the length of the range is ignored; i.e., the comparison result is based on characters past the end of the range. For example, if the receiver is "p" and the string to compare with is "pr" with a range of {0, 1} and options of 0, I expect the comparison result to be NSOrderedSame. But the comparison result actually returned is NSOrderedAscending. This is with the EOF 1.1 Foundation Kit. Has anyone else observed this? Or am I just interpreting the documentation incorrectly? From my perspective, this is either a functionality or documentation bug, so I'm filing a bug report with NeXT. -- Art Isbell NeXT & MIME Mail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: tiggr@es.ele.tue.nl (Pieter Schoenmakers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Is NSString's compare:options:range: broken? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 28 Jan 1996 01:59:49 +0100 Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology Sender: tiggr@tom.es.ele.tue.nl Message-ID: <x74tthyvzu.fsf@tom.es.ele.tue.nl> References: <4edr54$ao1@emerald.oz.net> In-reply-to: art@cubicsol.com's message of 27 Jan 1996 18:33:08 GMT In article <4edr54$ao1@emerald.oz.net> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: For example, if the receiver is "p" and the string to compare with is "pr" with a range of {0, 1} and options of 0, I expect the comparison result to be NSOrderedSame. But the comparison result actually returned is NSOrderedAscending. My interpretation is that you compare the string with the receiver limited to the range. In this case, `p' (the string limited to the range) is shorter than `pr' and the NSOrderedAscending result is what I'd expect. --Tiggr
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Is NSString's compare:options:range: broken? Date: 28 Jan 1996 19:45:18 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4egjoe$p6i@emerald.oz.net> References: <4edr54$ao1@emerald.oz.net> <x74tthyvzu.fsf@tom.es.ele.tue.nl> tiggr@es.ele.tue.nl (Pieter Schoenmakers) wrote: > In article <4edr54$ao1@emerald.oz.net> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > For example, if the receiver is "p" and the string to compare with > is "pr" with a range of {0, 1} and options of 0, I expect the > comparison result to be NSOrderedSame. But the comparison result > actually returned is NSOrderedAscending. > My interpretation is that you compare the string with the receiver limited > to the range. In this case, `p' (the string limited to the range) is > shorter than `pr' and the NSOrderedAscending result is what I'd expect. Ah, that makes sense. So maybe there's no way to use compare:... to compare just the characters in a range within a string as I was trying to do. I could instead use rangeOfString:... and examine the length of the returned range to determine whether a matching prefix exists. -- Art Isbell NeXT & MIME Mail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: nut@xedoc.com.au (Norton Truter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: DBKit writing to related table fails: DB_AdaptorError Date: 29 Jan 1996 02:26:21 GMT Organization: Customer of Access One Pty Ltd., Melbourne, Australia Message-ID: <4ehb8d$i89@news.mel.aone.net.au> OK, I have a table and a field which references a key in another table. I have a relate field which I am using to select the column to be shown. What I am trying to do is to modify a column in the related table. I am using a SYBASE database. Firstly, is it possible to write to a related table using DBKit? Secondly, if it is possible, WHAT AM I DOING WRONG that DBKit gives me a DB_AdaptorError when trying to write. I have noticed that the module first SELECTs as part of the save, but only selects the 'connected' columns from the first table, and then before getting to the COMMIT transaction it crashes. Stack trace snippet follows #8 0x609da92 in NXRunAlertPanel () #9 0xb024997 in -[DBFetchGroup _notifyUserOfFailure:] () #10 0xb024a19 in -[DBFetchGroup recordStream:willFailForReason:] () #11 0xb013860 in -[DBRecordList saveModifications] () #12 0xb024217 in -[DBFetchGroup saveChanges] () #13 0xb026dd5 in -[DBModule saveChanges:] () Solutions which involve moving to EOF or AccessKit receive impolite replies I need solutions for now not next year. -- NUT ====================================================================== Norton Truter, Senior Software Designer, Emerging Technology Pty. Ltd. e-mail: nut@et.com.au | phone: +61-3-9214-0155 | fax: +61-3-9214-0151 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "If a tree falls in the forest | "Shhh, it's only in my head" - and no-one is watching... can | The Counting Crows I turn it into woodchips and +----------------------------------- sell it to the Japanese?" - me | "Infinite improbability rating of ----------------------------------+ 1-to-1, normality is restored" - "I am vengence! I am the night! | The Starship Heart of Gold I AM BATMAN" - The Batman (B:TAS) | ======================================================================
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From: "Rolf Behrsing (Super-User)" <rolf@sandman.als.lbl.gov> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Error installing EOF 1.1 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:31:51 -0800 Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA Message-ID: <310D20A7.4A8@sandman.als.lbl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently picked up a copy of NEXTSTEP 3.3 User/Developer (Academic Edition) which included EOF. I was able to install both User and Developer without any problems. When I got to EOF I installed the User Patch followed by the EOUser, but when I tried loading EOdeveloper I got the following error: Errors while installing The log read as follows: . . . Running installation program... checking compiler ...OK Precompiling /NextDeveloper/Headers/eoaccess/eoaccess.h... /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/machine/stdarg.h:1 Warning: nondigits in number and not hexadecimal (This message along with other similar ones occur multiple times) . . . /NextDeveloper/Headers/eoaccess/eoaccess.h: cannot preparse I tried the installation multiple time, but to no avail. Has this error been reported before? Could it be that I have a corrupted CD-ROM? I followed the installation instructions verbatim included with the 3 CDs. Thanks, Rolf Behrsing RHBehrsing@lbl.gov
From: shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NEXTSTEP HP crashes Date: 1 Feb 1996 09:33:38 GMT Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland) Message-ID: <4eq1di$av@cisun2000.unil.ch> Does anyone else have random crashes with an NEXTSTEP/HP machine on the network? If our HP machine is on the network (with some NFS mounted volumes) and there is high levels of activity, the machine will become very unstable. Our SGI, Macintosh, HPUX and NEXTSTEP/Intel machines are fine. Our two HP 712's running NEXTSTEP crash however. For example, just as I do a save over the network it will give a kernel panic. Also, when opening a project... Or reading news or browsing the web will crash it. On the weekends and evenings it is typically fine. Anybody else have the same trouble? I've written to NeXT but they have not responded. We've had our network technicians put in a new bridge and router and check any possible fault in the wiring. They're pretty confident they fixed the problems, yet the crashes persist. I'd love to hear from anyone with any info! Thanks- Sean --- Sean L. Hill Research in Computational Neuroscience Institut de Physiologie E-mail: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch Rue du Bugnon, 7 Work: ++41 021 692.5516 CH-1005 Lausanne SWITZERLAND Fax: ++41 021 692.5505
From: doyle@zeke.lanl.gov Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP HP crashes Date: 1 Feb 1996 18:37:24 GMT Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Message-ID: <4er194$dp7@newshost.lanl.gov> References: <4eq1di$av@cisun2000.unil.ch> shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) wrote: > Does anyone else have random crashes with an NEXTSTEP/HP machine > on the network? If our HP machine is on the network (with some > NFS mounted volumes) and there is high levels of activity, the > machine will become very unstable. I see this most often with various NeXTSTEP platforms when they self-mount directories. Are you doing this? If so, then remove the self-mounts and make them links. This is a fairly easy problem to reproduce, but it has been there since 2.x days at least. Cheers, Mark
From: hadar@ny.ubs.com (Hadar Pedhazur) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP HP crashes Date: 1 Feb 1996 19:24:53 GMT Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland, New York site Message-ID: <4er425$ca5@ns2.ny.ubs.com> References: <4eq1di$av@cisun2000.unil.ch> In <4eq1di$av@cisun2000.unil.ch> Sean Hill wrote: > Does anyone else have random crashes with an NEXTSTEP/HP machine on the > network? If our HP machine is on the network (with some NFS mounted volumes) > and there is high levels of activity, the machine will become very unstable. [deletia] > I'd love to hear from anyone with any info! > > Thanks- > Sean > --- > Sean L. Hill Research in Computational Neuroscience > Institut de Physiologie E-mail: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch > Rue du Bugnon, 7 Work: ++41 021 692.5516 > CH-1005 Lausanne SWITZERLAND Fax: ++41 021 692.5505 > Hi. Long ago, we had similar problems. Thankfully, I can say that I can't remember the last time it has happened ... Anyway, the biggest problems we had were betwee HP 712s and NeXT m68k boxes. If the mounts were "soft", then the NeXTs could not reliably "write" data on the HPs but could actually read reliably. The HPs on the other hand, could not reliably "read" data from the m68ks, but could write reliably! Weird, huh? Anyway, changing the mounts to "hard" mounts (NeXT recommends this always, and only!), cured most of our problems. For what it's worth, we had been using soft mounts on an m68k and Sun network for 5+ years without a *single* problem! So, while empirically I know that NeXT's answer was correct, I still contend that is a "bug" in their implementation on the hp. Above I said "most" of our problems. The remaining problems seemed to be related to a machine going down (for a non-nfs reason, like maybe the power plug being pulled :-). When a machine to which we had a mount (from an hppa running NS) was unavailable for an extended period of time, the HP would eventually lock up. Worse, other HPs would now cascade if they were mounting the locked up HP, etc. This was one of the biggest (and only!) headaches we had with the HP's over the past 18 months that we have been using them. For whatever reason (maybe we're pulling the power less often now :-), this hasn't happened in a while ... Hope this helps (at least somewhat). -- Hadar Pedhazur Global Equity Derivatives Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS)
From: rabbit@tygra.Michigan.COM (Roger Rabbit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: How to get The MORTIMER Story Message-ID: <14751@tygra.Michigan.COM> Date: 2 Feb 96 12:04:38 GMT Organization: Shut Up Blair This posting was made automatically by machine. It will appear once every minute or so. Direct any questions to rabbit@Buster.Michigan.COM ------- The MORTIMER story can be retreived from a special archive server (the Mort-Server) To request a part of the MORTIMER story, send mail to one of the addresses below. Put your request on the Subject: line of your message. Requests are can be the in the following form: ALL - (in upper case) will cause the entire story to be sent to you. n - (where n is an integer) will cause part one to be sent n,m... - (where n and m, etc are integers) will cause parts n, m and so forth, to be sent. You may send your request to any of the following addresses: MORTIMER@Buster.Michigan.COM MORTIMER@Babs.Michigan.COM MORTIMER@Plucky.Michigan.COM MORTIMER@Hamton.Michigan.COM MORTIMER@McLoon.Michigan.COM MORTIMER@Elmyra.Michigan.COM If you send off a request and don't get a response within 5 days, send e-mail to the sysop here (NOT ME!!). His address is: ARCHIVER@Michigan.COM -- >>> BAN: Nuclear Power, US Intervention in The Gulf, Toxic Waste, >>> rdc, carasso, Trash Incinerators, Nuclear Weapons, Poverty, KiBoIsM >>> Racism, Kent Paul Dolan, Specieism, etc... Write: Rabbits for a Better >>> Hutch, Roscommon, MI 48653 E-MAIL: rabbit@Buster.Michigan.COM
From: support@radical.com (Radical Product Support) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: RadicalNews Bug Date: 2 Feb 1996 15:51:13 GMT Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4etbth$gtl@radical.com> In RadicalNews versions 0.8 and 0.8.1, setting the news source type to INN will cause the app to crash. Use the NNTP setting instead. RadicalNews automatically detects an INN server and the INN setting in preferences is not used. We apologize and will correct the problem in the next release. -- ____________________________________________ / Radical System Solutions, Inc. /\ / Software Development, Systems Consulting \/ support@radical.com http://www.radical.com/
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From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Fastest NEXSTEP BOX (was Re: NEXTSTEP HP crashes) Date: 1 Feb 1996 20:45:24 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4er8p4$2cm@turbocat.snafu.de> References: <4eq1di$av@cisun2000.unil.ch> shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) wrote: > Does anyone else have random crashes with an NEXTSTEP/HP machine on the > network? If our HP machine is on the network (with some NFS mounted volumes) > and there is high levels of activity, the machine will become very unstable. Please give more information. Our 10 712/60 work fine. How are your NFS-dirs imported? Automount? Our server (a bigger HP I forgot the number) crashes on high load. If you start OneVision on it -- it crashes! I am sure it's NOT OV fault! If you start it form a client -- it works. The server has 64 MB RAM. Anyway NEXTSTEP/intel seems to be better that NS HP. Here is a litte benchmark: Server: (gecko.fb6.fhtw-berlin.de, 64 MB) dave@gecko>dry_mu_reg Start timer! Stop timer! Dhrystone time for 5000000 passes = 24 This machine benchmarks at 205128 dhrystones/second Gecko20: (712/60, 64 MB RAM) dave@gecko20>dry_mu_reg Start timer! Stop timer! Dhrystone time for 5000000 passes = 41 This machine benchmarks at 121488 dhrystones/second dave@gecko20> Turbocat: (P100, ASUS PCI/I-P54SP4, 32 MB) dave@turbocat> /private/tmp/O_dry_mu_reg/dry_mu_reg Start timer! Stop timer! Dhrystone time for 5000000 passes = 24 This machine benchmarks at 203951 dhrystones/second If you want to know your results check out ftp://ftp.fb6.fhtw-berlin.de/pub/next/mach/dry_mu_reg This server runs WU-FTPD. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: droux@nmia.com (Nicolas Droux) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Fastest NEXSTEP BOX (was Re: NEXTSTEP HP crashes) Date: 3 Feb 1996 17:53:47 GMT Organization: New Mexico Internet Access Message-ID: <4f07fb$v8f@thales.nmia.com> References: <4eq1di$av@cisun2000.unil.ch> <4er8p4$2cm@turbocat.snafu.de> dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) wrote: >Anyway NEXTSTEP/intel seems to be better that NS HP. Here is a litte benchmark: > >Server: (gecko.fb6.fhtw-berlin.de, 64 MB) > >dave@gecko>dry_mu_reg >Start timer! >Stop timer! >Dhrystone time for 5000000 passes = 24 >This machine benchmarks at 205128 dhrystones/second > >Gecko20: (712/60, 64 MB RAM) > >dave@gecko20>dry_mu_reg >Start timer! >Stop timer! >Dhrystone time for 5000000 passes = 41 >This machine benchmarks at 121488 dhrystones/second >dave@gecko20> > >Turbocat: (P100, ASUS PCI/I-P54SP4, 32 MB) > >dave@turbocat> /private/tmp/O_dry_mu_reg/dry_mu_reg >Start timer! >Stop timer! >Dhrystone time for 5000000 passes = 24 >This machine benchmarks at 203951 dhrystones/second Yeah, and here's the result for a Pentium 166. droux@hyperion:9> dry_mu_reg Start timer! Stop timer! Dhrystone time for 5000000 passes = 15 This machine benchmarks at 332294 dhrystones/second It'd be interesting to see the results on a PentiumPro... Anyone? -- Nicolas Droux, droux@cs.sandia.gov 35 05' 02" N, 106 39' 01" W
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.bugs From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch, Adaptec 2940 and Command Queueing Message-ID: <RDL.96Feb3154531@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 20:45:31 GMT Has anyone gotten this to work? I have tried this with a few different configurations without success. I am thinking that NeXT's driver is just broken. I get system panics and corrupted disks (repairable via fsck) Configuration #1: Adaptec 2940N, Seagate ST12550N, NEC 4Xi Configuration #2: Adaptec 2940N, Seagate ST12550N, Toshiba XM-3601 Configuration #3: Adaptec 2940UW, Seagate ST32550W, Toshiba XM-3701 Note: I've tried all versions of the 2940 driver up to 3.37. Note that both Seagate drives support command queueing. When I run Adaptec's DOS/Windows SCSI programs, it shows that they support it. All the CD-ROM drives DO NOT support it. Is it the case that all peripherals on the bus need to support command queueing? Also, how much of a benefit is command queueing anyhow? Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch, Adaptec 2940 and Command Queueing Date: 4 Feb 1996 01:30:04 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc. Message-ID: <4f126s$ji0@news4.digex.net> References: <RDL.96Feb3154531@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) wrote: > Has anyone gotten this to work? I have tried this with a few > different configurations without success. I am thinking that > NeXT's driver is just broken. I get system panics and corrupted > disks (repairable via fsck) > Configuration #1: > Adaptec 2940N, Seagate ST12550N, NEC 4Xi [snip] > Is it the case that all peripherals on the bus need to support > command queueing? > Also, how much of a benefit is command queueing anyhow? I think you'll find that most CDROM's don't support CMND Queing and that is likely the reason you cannot enable it. If you take off the CDROM and run just your HD with CMNDQ it will likely work. The problem is that Adaptec's don't let you individually turn off CMNDQ for each item on the SCSI bus; not to even mention negotiating optimally with each device (as do DPT controllers). So it is an all or nothing proposition with adaptecs... Fortunatly I have found the difference in performance to be non-existent, so it's no big deal... -- Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 5 Feb 1996 05:15:09 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4f43ot$t3j@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: dave@gecko.fb6.fhtw-berlin.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <14751@tygra.Michigan.COM> Control: cancel <14751@tygra.Michigan.COM> Date: 5 Feb 1996 09:59:51 GMT Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik und Wirtschaft Berlin, FB1 Message-ID: <4f4ken$r3g@commserv.fb1.fhtw-berlin.de> cancel
From: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Strange postscript code causes problems Date: 6 Feb 1996 17:21:56 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <4f82nk$gu4@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi net! Perhaps this is an old one, but I don't know the solution: In any application, choose Print... and press the button "Save". You get a panel that lets you save the printer output of the app in question to a Postscript file. So far, so good. This panel lets you choose between "Normal, device independent PS", "PS for selected printer" and "PS for selected printer plus fonts". The first option works. In the other two cases, a command is inserted into the code that causes everything but a NeXT to stall when interpreting the code: %%BeginFeature: *PageSize A4 /A4 setpapersize %%EndFeature instead of %%PaperSize: A4 which works o.k. for option 1. What is going on here? Is there a way to prevent the insertion of this obviously nonstandard PS command? Why does it work on a NeXT? Why is this command only inserted in the two printer-specific cases? Any help is greatly appreciated; this bug (?) stalled work of mine for 3 days, so I'm rather curious... ys Alexander Wilkie -- e-mail: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME o.k.) www : http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~wilkie/
From: Scooter@revelations.co.uk (Scooter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: olivety m28 setup disk Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 19:45:13 GMT Organization: Public access point - Revelations, Belfast Message-ID: <4favgo$7h6@errigle.gpl.net> hi to all i am looking for a setup disk for the club computer we got an olivety pc but latter discovered that the hdd and fdd's were not instaled and that we could not instal them without the manufacturs own disks the club will be happy to cover all cost's of p+p on the disks thanks for the help josh i can also be contacted by e-mail at joshi@revelations.co.uk this would be prefered thanks again for any help you can offer me.
From: fa@emf.emf.net (Farhad Afrahi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Emacs & NEXTSTEP 3.3 Patch 1 Date: 7 Feb 1996 22:29:10 GMT Organization: "emf.net" Quality Internet Access. (510) 704-2929 (Voice) Message-ID: <4fb93m$dd4@emf.emf.net> After NEXTSTEP 3.3 Patch 1 was installed, both the standard issue emacs (from Emacs.pkg on the NEXTSTEP 3.3 CD) and Emacs for NEXTSTEP 4.1 started to display the message: Memory exhausted in the mini-buffer upon being invoked within a shell window. No immediate adverse effect is observable. On a few seemingly random occasions, the same message appears in the mini-buffer, after which point, further operations become impossible. This last behaviour has been hard to reproduce. I have seen this phenomenon on two different Intel machines. Any ideas would be welcome. --- Farhad Afrahi <fa@emf.net> NeXTmail + MIME accepted
From: Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Emacs & NEXTSTEP 3.3 Patch 1 Date: 8 Feb 1996 02:35:32 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <4fbnhk$r2j@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <4fb93m$dd4@emf.emf.net> In <4fb93m$dd4@emf.emf.net> Farhad Afrahi wrote: > After NEXTSTEP 3.3 Patch 1 was installed, both the standard issue > emacs (from Emacs.pkg on the NEXTSTEP 3.3 CD) and Emacs for NEXTSTEP > 4.1 started to display the message: > > Memory exhausted > > in the mini-buffer upon being invoked within a shell window. No > immediate adverse effect is observable. On a few seemingly random > occasions, the same message appears in the mini-buffer, after which > point, further operations become impossible. This last behaviour has > been hard to reproduce. There have been a few reports of this. In every case recompiling the sources (or, even better, the 4.12 sources from lynx.ps.uci.edu) fixed the problem. You are the first to connect this behaviour with the NS3.3 patch. However this would be an explanation, so maybe the other people with problems just didn't make the connection. Emacs (both the command line version distributed by NeXT and the GUI port available from the archives) "dumps" itself during the build process. Dumping is rather hairy, but it does improve startup time. A side effect is that Emacs becomes very sensitive to any change in the shared libraries. Dumping emacs under one set of shared libraries and running it under another can have any number of bizarre consequences, so maybe you are on to something. Carl Edman
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Damn wierd problem, Gatekeeper & ppp Date: 8 Feb 1996 01:35:01 -0700 Organization: A Big Black Cube Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: <4fccjl$lkq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Damndest thing happened with my Cube. I set up Gatekeeper and ppp over two months ago, and it has not changed. Yet it "broke." Symptom: Clicking on my custom "Gate" file spawns two Gatekeeper apps, two chats, two pppd's and they both seem to duel it out over who controls the modem. One of the spawned ppp sessions gets disgusted & hangs up the other modem. Meanwhile, two PopOvers are spawned. (This determined by a ps -ax) For the life of me, I cannot understand why this is happening. Here's the console output: PPP Reinitializing nmserver's network portion Feb 7 23:17:22 chaos netmsgserver[23]: network_init PPP Reinitializing nmserver's network portion Feb 7 23:17:24 chaos netmsgserver[23]: network_init Feb 7 23:17:33 chaos PopOver[507]: Received terminate signal Feb 7 23:17:33 chaos PopOver[508]: Received terminate signal As you can see, two of everything starts. Any pointers would be appreciated. Note that this configuration has worked fine up until today, with no system modifications made during that time. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: far@ix.netcom.net(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Damn wierd problem, Gatekeeper & ppp Date: 9 Feb 1996 04:24:07 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4fei97$gqb@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <4fccjl$lkq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Do you actually see two GateKeeper.app icons? The reason I ask is because GateKeeper normally forks into two tasks while the ppp link is up. So a ps -ax might be misleading. My best guess is that you have a call to exec another pppd in the options file which is contained within the .Gate doc or maybe in the stub options file at /etc/ppp/options. If this is not the case I would use the preferences editor to compare the example config files to those in your configuration. Also check the .Gate doc in question. GateKeeper uses a standard mechanism in registering itself to handle docs with a .Gate extension so I'm not exactly sure how two apps could be launched to handle one doc. In comp.sys.next.bugs article <4fccjl$lkq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> you wrote: >Damndest thing happened with my Cube. I set up Gatekeeper and ppp over >two months ago, and it has not changed. Yet it "broke." > >Symptom: >Clicking on my custom "Gate" file spawns two Gatekeeper apps, two chats, >two pppd's and they both seem to duel it out over who controls the modem. >One of the spawned ppp sessions gets disgusted & hangs up the other modem. >Meanwhile, two PopOvers are spawned. (This determined by a ps -ax) > >For the life of me, I cannot understand why this is happening. >Here's the console output: > >PPP Reinitializing nmserver's network portion >Feb 7 23:17:22 chaos netmsgserver[23]: network_init >PPP Reinitializing nmserver's network portion >Feb 7 23:17:24 chaos netmsgserver[23]: network_init >Feb 7 23:17:33 chaos PopOver[507]: Received terminate signal >Feb 7 23:17:33 chaos PopOver[508]: Received terminate signal > >As you can see, two of everything starts. Any pointers would be >appreciated. Note that this configuration has worked fine up until >today, with no system modifications made during that time. > Regards, Felipe A. Rodriguez far@ix.netcom.com Agoura Hills, CA (NeXTmail preferred) (MIMEmail welcome)
#################################################################### From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <4ff0pf$a6o@portal.gmu.edu> Control: cancel <4ff0pf$a6o@portal.gmu.edu> Date: 9 Feb 1996 08:41:24 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <4ff1bk$ru7@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <4ff0pf$a6o@portal.gmu.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: What's wrong with this picture? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 9 Feb 1996 09:00:56 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu Message-ID: <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> References: <4ff0pf$a6o@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: geck it's confirmed Well first I thought this was a bug in the file names, (bad names), then I thought it was wa bug in /bin/ar, then I ran strings on libposix.a and confirmed the problem across all 4 CPUs. My apologies if this has been reported, but I don't think it has been, as this is from the 3.3 Patched libposix.a avalible on the NeXT archive. Also, forgive some of the CPU stuff in the origional post. If you red the origional, you can stop after the first setction that follows below. (I canceled it right off, so it shouldn't have gone anyplace, but who knows.) If this post "magicly disappears", as I've seen occasionaly happen in these newsgroups, I'll repost it till it sticks. See, having been here before, I'm saving my posts for just that purpose. I don't know who the 'cancel-asshole' is in the c.s.n.* groups, but I've seen it happen enough to know there's a turd or two in the soup. Then too, who would have any motivation to nuke a bug post isn't really apperant. (Just call me mr. low-trust) To see the problem quickly, (and it extends to other calls) do the following: vampire:111# strings - libposix.a | grep mig_deallocate _mig_deallocate mig_deallocate. 801021932 0 0 100644 312 ` _mig_deallocate _mig_deallocate mig_deallocate. 801023293 0 0 100644 308 ` _mig_deallocate _mig_deallocate mig_deallocate. 801024714 0 0 100644 432 ` _mig_deallocate _mig_deallocate mig_deallocate. 801026280 0 0 100644 312 ` _mig_deallocate It should say "mig_deallocate.o". Most of my origional post (wich I canceled thinking ar was at fault for this, and ar may be at fault in th end, I don't know...) follows: I ran into a bug in libposix.a, I am not sure if it extends to all the architectures, and at first I thought it was just one file that had the problem. It turns out though that there's a _bunch_ of them with this problem. This has got to be one of the lamer, most avoidable bugs I've seen in a while. I just hope to god production builds arn't happening in the OS off these libs. Listings from extracted *.o files follow. Please pay close attention to the file names below. -rw-r--r-- 1 root 280 Feb 9 03:01 mach_msg_receiv -rw-r--r-- 1 root 312 Feb 9 03:01 mig_deallocate. -rw-r--r-- 1 root 356 Feb 9 03:01 mig_reply_setup -rw-r--r-- 1 root 252 Feb 9 03:00 _old_one_cmpldi -rw-r--r-- 1 root 376 Feb 9 03:00 _old_floatdidf. Fairly obvious stuff. "mig_deallocate. " "mig_reply_setup ", "mach_msg_receiv ", "_old_one_cmpldi ", and _old_floatdidf. are misnamed badly. I can understand the "old_one" sort of... But on the whole I was fairly surprised to see this sort of thing. Could this be part of the reason why we see: root -1 0.0 0.0 0K 0K ? S 0:08 <mach-task>. in a 'ps -augx' display? I'm not sure, but I do know that these misnamings do casue a bit of problems, and god help you if you're trying to call them... Tch, it's just bad form if nothing else, I'm no wizard on the metal, but I wouldn't have made this sort of error in any case either. If anyone can confirm this buggy stuff, or offer an explination (Some weird namespace limitation in "ar" etc. perhaps?) I'd love to hear it. As far as I know, the "fix" for it is to disassemble your libposix.a library, rename the stuff, and put it back together again. Fairly straightforward stuff. ;> On this note, perhaps I should keep going and do some other libs. Sort of bad when code review is being done this way, but wtf. ObjC is some great stuff, but NeXT would stand itself in good stead if it paid some serious attention to fixing bugs in the basic unix implemintation. & updating it a bit too. Systems managers do allot of the "reccomending" out there. And we're the people who need and want stuff like 4.4-ish updates & the like... Tim ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail, MIME) Tim Scanlon George Mason University (PGP key avail.) Public Affairs I speak for myself, but often claim demonic possession
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From: jes@rednsi.com (Josep Egea i Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: fflush not working Date: 9 Feb 1996 12:32:39 GMT Organization: Medusa Message-ID: <4ffet7$2c4@news.medusa.es> Keywords: posix fflush Hi all, Compiling third party software which needs the -posix flag to work properly, I've found that fflush() doesn't work as stated. In the manual pages can be read that if the argument is a NULL pointer, all output and update streams are flushed but in my case it causes a bus error. Have you experienced this before? Any comments welcome! Thanks and regards. -- Josep Egea - jes@rednsi.com - NeXTMail & MIME OK Nexus Servicios de Informacion - Barcelona (Spain) Telf: + 34 3 285 00 70 - Fax: + 34 3 285 00 70
From: bbum@friday.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Cool Bug in NPipe Date: 10 Feb 1996 19:30:15 GMT Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc. Message-ID: <4firo7$5pc@chinx4.thoughtport.net> [If you don't know what NPipe is, it is a simple 'plumbing' game. you start with a grid of cells, in one of the cell's is the tap. From the tap flows water-- it is your job to connect together the various sections of pipe that are randomly made available in a queue. If you connect enough pipe, you finish the level. A colorized and non-colorized version is available at the various FTP sites.] If you create a loop that connects to the BOTTOM of the tap, it creates an endless loop... the water flows round and round and the points roll in. sorta silly, but i thought it was a rather cool bug. b.bum
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: What's wrong with this picture? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 12 Feb 1996 00:19:21 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu Message-ID: <4fm129$u5f@portal.gmu.edu> References: <4ff0pf$a6o@portal.gmu.edu> <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: Hmm I understand now. Keywords: duh Well In my prior post I managed to demonstrate a weird limitation in 'ar', but one that's documented, and in no way causes a bug. The reason being (as itwas kindly pointed out to me), that ld etc. look for symbol names wich arn't bound to the filename limitation obviously. Anyway, this was a case of me not doing complete enough research on what I was seeing. There ain't no bug and nothing's broken, and I'd have probably still been scratching my head over a few of the details if other people hadn't clued me in on it. So, I'm canceling my prior post, and also taking the oppertunity to withdrawl the snide cracks I made about the lack of 4.4 bsdish stuff in the OS, it was innaproprite to the context I'd posted it in obviously. On the other hand it'd be nice to see the stuff be more of a priority. Tim ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail, MIME) Tim Scanlon George Mason University (PGP key avail.) Public Affairs I speak for myself, but often claim demonic possession
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From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Control: cancel <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Date: 12 Feb 1996 00:20:32 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <4fm14g$i3r@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Control: cancel <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Date: 12 Feb 1996 00:20:33 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <4fm14h$sur@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Control: cancel <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Date: 12 Feb 1996 00:20:34 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <4fm14i$7k1@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Control: cancel <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Date: 12 Feb 1996 00:20:35 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <4fm14j$c2d@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Control: cancel <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Date: 12 Feb 1996 00:20:36 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <4fm14k$lu7@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Control: cancel <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> Date: 12 Feb 1996 00:20:37 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <4fm14l$kkv@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <4ff2g8$4p3@portal.gmu.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 12 Feb 1996 05:15:17 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4fmid5$2m3@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Damn wierd problem, Gatekeeper & ppp Date: 11 Feb 1996 23:24:02 -0700 Organization: My Cube Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: <4fmme2$hr9@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4fccjl$lkq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4fei97$gqb@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> far@ix.netcom.net(Felipe A. Rodriguez) wrote: > >Do you actually see two GateKeeper.app icons? The reason I ask is because >GateKeeper normally forks into two tasks while the ppp link is up. So a >ps -ax might be misleading. No, but no settings were changed, and it simply stopped dead in it's tracks. there are two 'chat' sessions running, where from, I haven't the slightest: 185 ? SW 0:01 /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal -MachLaunch 8 37 192 Ca SW 0:00 (pppd) 193 Ca SW 0:00 sh -c /usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" 194 Ca S 0:00 /usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT NO CARRIER ABORT NO 2 co SW 0:00 (mach_init) 186 p1 SW 0:00 -tcsh (tcsh) >My best guess is that you have a call to exec another pppd in the options >file which is contained within the .Gate doc or maybe in the stub options >file at /etc/ppp/options. on options, there was a connect 'chat...' setup next to the device, just like the example file. Getting rid of it just meant it would no longer dial. But I did note that it is not Gatekeeper that is doing this, calling the pppup script will do the same problem. Another machine who I helped get running (an Intel) puked on the same day, (Feb 9th) with the same symptoms. That machine ran flawlessly for 3 months, mine for over 6 months. > >If this is not the case I would use the preferences editor to compare the >example config files to those in your configuration. Also check the .Gate >doc in question. All are up to spec. Reinstalling everything did nothing to alleviate the situation. >GateKeeper uses a standard mechanism in registering itself to handle docs >with a .Gate extension so I'm not exactly sure how two apps could be >launched to handle one doc. The problem lies in the shell script, or pppd, Gatekeeper has been absolved. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: john@nextdoor.com (John McCracken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: OHOH - my Turbo Color is purring??? Date: 13 Feb 1996 05:07:44 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <4fp6b0$3h3@shellx.best.com> References: <4fhkoq$src@usc.edu> In <4fhkoq$src@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote: > Can someone shine some light on why my Turbo Color (nonADB) would suddenly > start making sporadic purring noises (that come through the speaker)?? > > I do remember once someone mentioning this before but I don't really > remember 8-( > I started getting what seems like the same behavior right after I installed NS3.3 on a non-turbo color. The sound (quite annoying) is intermittent and sporadic - its period ranges from a few seconds to hours. I have no idea what it is, but I really hope a simple fix for it is available. 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From: Thorsten Wedderien <thw@fokus.gmd.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Parallel port problems in NS 3.3 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 08:17:32 +0100 Organization: GMD-FOKUS Message-ID: <31203B0C.1794@fokus.gmd.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have still problems using the parallel port under NeXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel. When I try to print the demo page on my postscript printer, it takes a plenty of hours, since the page is beeing transferred. I'm using NeXTSTEP 3.3 with the following configuration: - Gigabyte GA-586AT Pentium mainboard w. P54C at 100MHz - onboard serial and parallel controllers using the UMC8663AF chipset - 16 MB RAM - NCR53C810 SCSI controller with Quantum Lightning 730S harddisk - Diamond Stealth Video 3400 graphics adapter (S3 Vision 968) - Brother HL-660 laser printer with BR-SCRIPT 2 postscript emulation I tried out all the three parallel port modes supported by the BIOS (SPP, EPP, ECP). Instead of the onboard parallel controller, I also tried out an ISA bus I/O card that causes the same problems. I contacted the NeXT technical support, but they have no idea... The onboard controller runs perfectly under MS-DOS and Windows95. I may also print pages under NeXTSTEP into a file and send them to the printer under MS-DOS/Windows95. Does anyone has an idea how to get it work? Thanks in advance... T. Wedderien ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thorsten Wedderien, thw@fokus.gmd.de Gesellschaft für Mathematik und Datenverarbeitung (GMD) Forschungsbereich für Offene Kommunikation (FOKUS) Hardenbergplatz 2 D-10623 Berlin Germany http://www.fokus.gmd.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: lloyd@world.std.com (Christopher Lloyd) Subject: MallocDebug.app on 3.3/Intel crashes Message-ID: <DMpAJL.G06@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 06:11:45 GMT I recently switched over to intel for development work, and much to my surprise, MallocDebug doesnt work, it crashes when I click on All/New/Leaks for even the simplest app (ProjectBuilder->New) Is this some cruel joke? worked fine on m68k and HP... thanks, chris -- Christopher Lloyd lloyd@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~lloyd
From: kiwi@ariane.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Parallel port problems in NS 3.3 Date: 13 Feb 1996 08:42:41 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4fpiu1$8dq@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <31203B0C.1794@fokus.gmd.de> Thorsten Wedderien (thw@fokus.gmd.de) wrote: : I have still problems using the parallel port under NeXTSTEP 3.3 for : Intel. When I try to print the demo page on my postscript printer, it : takes a plenty of hours, since the page is beeing transferred. [...] : The onboard controller runs perfectly under MS-DOS and Windows95. : I may also print pages under NeXTSTEP into a file and send them to the : printer under MS-DOS/Windows95. I experienced the same weird behavoir. I hacked Chr. Starkjohann's driver for the Parallel Port to see what's going on. The port hardware simply didn't produce any reasonable interrupts. Under Dos/Win/95 that's no issue because they don't use IRQs for printing anyway. Then I modified the driver that it doesn't rely on IRQs being generated correctly but uses them if they're available. I print happily and speedy since then ;-) I can send you the modified driver if you wish. I think I should put it somewhere on the Archives. -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: don@misckit.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Cool Bug in NPipe Date: 13 Feb 1996 16:48:13 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <4fqfcd$i5g@news.xmission.com> References: <4firo7$5pc@chinx4.thoughtport.net> bbum@friday.com wrote: > If you create a loop that connects to the BOTTOM of the tap, it creates an > endless loop... the water flows round and round and the points roll in. > > sorta silly, but i thought it was a rather cool bug. You don't have to go in the bottom of the tap, either. Going in from any side causes the problem. Another bug I noted was that the counter that docks your score for unused pipes is never reset at the beginning of a level and thus on level ten you are getting docked points for all the pipes you missed on levels 1-9, and so on. I don't think a new game even resets it, so you get docked points for pipes you didn't use in previous games... These bugs are why I never registered when it was shareware. I didn't feel the quality was up to release level with bugs like that remaining, and planned to register if and when they were fixed. Now the point is moot, since it is now freeware anyway. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Parallel port problems in NS 3.3 Date: 13 Feb 1996 18:17:06 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4fqkj2$i3j@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <31203B0C.1794@fokus.gmd.de> <4fpiu1$8dq@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann (kiwi@ariane.fb10.tu-berlin.de) wrote: [...] : I can send you the modified driver if you wish. I think I : should put it somewhere on the Archives. ftp://buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de/pub/next/ParallelPortDriver1.1ax.tar.gz -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Parallel port problems in NS 3.3 Date: 14 Feb 1996 11:04:42 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4fsfka$pp2@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <31203B0C.1794@fokus.gmd.de> <4fpiu1$8dq@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <4fqkj2$i3j@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann (kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de) wrote: : Axel Habermann (kiwi@ariane.fb10.tu-berlin.de) wrote: : [...] : : I can send you the modified driver if you wish. I think I : : should put it somewhere on the Archives. following up on my own post again ;-) Chr. Starkjohann, the author of the ParallelPort driver just informed me, that the version I modified is likely to panic under certain circumstances. Second, I discovered that my modification might affect IRQ latency badly so that serial communications might be disturbed when done parallel to parallel printing. I have a modified driver which will solve the second problem, but not the first, as I don't have the possibility to look into it at the moment. I probably will have a new version of the driver ready later which I will announce here when it is available. In the meantime I would be happy about any feedback concerning performance of serial data transfers while printing with my modified driver. I'm also very interested to hear if my driver solved the printing problem which was the root of this thread. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp (for our english-readers: The files containing the program documentation usually have the extension '.c')
From: kiwi@ariane.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Strange! Can't rlogin. ttys? Date: 14 Feb 1996 15:27:46 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4fsv1i$de6@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> I just upgraded a machine with the 3.3 User Patch. I applied the LibrariesOK-Script (using lookupd -R now). Since then, I can't rlogin to the host: ariane kiwi 1 (~): rlogin buran Last login: Wed Feb 14 16:16:43 on ttyp9 You have mail. Connection closed. ariane kiwi 2 (~): Opening a terminal window on the host sometimes takes half a minute. The strangest thing is: root@buran:~:37# /bin/login login: kiwi Password: Last login: Wed Feb 14 16:21:36 from ariane You have mail. [1] + 692 Suspended (tty input) /bin/login root@buran:~:38# _AND_ root@buran:~:38# ps auxww | grep tcsh kiwi 692 0.5 0.0 5.91M 0K p1 SW 0:00 -ecsh (tcsh) while the 'e' in ecsh is an 'e' with bit 8 set. Can anyone comment on this?????? (More Info available on request) -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: kiwi@ariane.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <4fsv1i$de6@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Control: cancel <4fsv1i$de6@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Date: 14 Feb 1996 17:04:06 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4ft4m6$js8@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: kiwi@ariane.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Strange! Can't rlogin. ttys? Date: 14 Feb 1996 17:05:04 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4ft4o0$js8@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <4fsv1i$de6@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann (kiwi@ariane.fb10.tu-berlin.de) wrote: [...] Sorry, it was my fault. Simply forget it. -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: MallocDebug.app on 3.3/Intel crashes Date: 14 Feb 1996 17:55:03 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <4ft7ln$rn2@tribune.usask.ca> Yep. MallocDebug quit working for me, too, when I `upgraded' from 3.2 to 3.3 on my Intel machines. -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory Phone: (306) 966-6308 University of Saskatchewan FAX: (306) 966-6058 Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: Thorsten Wedderien <thw@fokus.gmd.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Parallel port problems in NS 3.3 Date: 15 Feb 1996 12:01:29 GMT Organization: FOKUS - GMD Message-ID: <4fv7ap$o4m@stern.fokus.gmd.de> References: <31203B0C.1794@fokus.gmd.de> <4fpiu1$8dq@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <4fqkj2$i3j@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <4fsfka$pp2@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Hallo Axel! Danke im voraus fuer Deine Reaktion und die Muehe fuer den Treiber! Ich werde ihn mir sofort ziehen und heute abend ausprobieren. Den alternativen Treiber hatte ich auch schon ausprobiert. Er lief aber ebensowenig. Auf die Idee, der parallele Port koennte keine vernuenfti- gen IRQs liefern, bin ich natuerlich nicht gekommen. Der Support des Herstellers Gigabyte taugt auch nicht sehr viel. In Hamburg sitzen ein paar Chinesen, die kein deutsch und nur gebrochen englisch sprechen und sich offenbar mit der Hardware der Mainboards nur wenig auskennen... ;-| Ich melde mich auf jeden Fall noch einmal und teile Dir mit, wie der Treiber auf meiner Hardware spielt. Bis dann, ..Thorsten....
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: OHOH - my Turbo Color is purring??? Date: 15 Feb 1996 15:17:31 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4fviqb$irc@news.its.com> References: <4fhkoq$src@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote: > Can someone shine some light on why my Turbo Color (nonADB) would suddenly > start making sporadic purring noises (that come through the speaker)?? I've seen a couple of machines do that. A "purring" or "bird-chirping" sound, which typically falls in pitch, is probably due to a capacitor bleeding electrical charge into the inputs of the audio amplifier circuitry within the monitor. This happens because a partially-conductive path has been made where it shouldn't be. Probably the best solution is to disassemble the monitor completely and use compressed air to blow all of the dust off the circuit boards. That should stop the noises, and will probably have beneficial effects on the rest of the circuitry. -Chuck Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: OHOH - my Turbo Color is purring??? Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:41:55 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960219094025.3046E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <4fhkoq$src@usc.edu> <4fp6b0$3h3@shellx.best.com> <4g2rqu$b80@bud.shadow.net> <4g3cqi$8qu@usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4g3cqi$8qu@usc.edu> On 17 Feb 1996, Matthew N. Reichman wrote: > In <4g2rqu$b80@bud.shadow.net> Dino Bagdadi wrote: > > Guys, > > > > This is really funny! > > > > This is the sound used by WatchSwap.app. Everytime the swapspace file > > increases, it will play the sound you posted. The soundfile is called > > Stretch.snd > > > > So, check your system for this app and turn it off!! How's that for a > > quick fix? :) > > Now, considering all the responses I got, this is extremely funny. And, yes, > I had that feature inadvertently turned on. heh heh.... been there, done that... Couldn't figure out what the (kinda spooky) noise was at _ALL_. Forgot all about it when this thread came up... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXTStep Swapfile and Swapdisk FAQ: send mail with subject 'send swapfaq' Other info-via-email available, send mail with subject 'send info' For information on PPP under NeXTStep <nextppp@listproc.thoughtport.com>
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: RBrowser: login root failed: Shell inconsistent Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:46:27 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960219094231.3046F-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I solved the problem I was having with ZSH and RBRowser (wasn't being correctly realized as a non-interative shell), however, I cannot log into 'root' on localhost via RBrowser (which I know isn't suggested but used to be fine). It gives me some message such as "login root failed -- Shell inconsistent" Anyone know what this really means and how to fix it? TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXTStep Swapfile and Swapdisk FAQ: send mail with subject 'send swapfaq' Other info-via-email available, send mail with subject 'send info' For information on PPP under NeXTStep <nextppp@listproc.thoughtport.com>
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: OHOH - my Turbo Color is purring??? Date: 19 Feb 1996 15:48:00 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4ga63g$4jd@news.its.com> References: <4fhkoq$src@usc.edu> <4fp6b0$3h3@shellx.best.com> <4g2rqu$b80@bud.shadow.net> <4g3cqi$8qu@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote: >> This is the sound used by WatchSwap.app. Everytime the swapspace file >> increases, it will play the sound you posted. The soundfile is called >> Stretch.snd > > Now, considering all the responses I got, this is extremely funny. > And, yes, I had that feature inadvertently turned on. That is funny. I had thought the problem occurred as soon as you powered up the machine, not after someone had logged in. Save my response for machines which "purr" when you first turn them on.... :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: OHOH - my Turbo Color is purring??? Date: 20 Feb 1996 00:12:03 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-d-55.usc.edu Message-ID: <4gb3kj$ooo@usc.edu> References: <4fhkoq$src@usc.edu> <4fp6b0$3h3@shellx.best.com> <4g2rqu$b80@bud.shadow.net> <4g3cqi$8qu@usc.edu> <4ga63g$4jd@news.its.com> In <4ga63g$4jd@news.its.com> Chuck Swiger wrote: > reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote: > >> This is the sound used by WatchSwap.app. Everytime the swapspace file > >> increases, it will play the sound you posted. The soundfile is called > >> Stretch.snd > > > > Now, considering all the responses I got, this is extremely funny. > > And, yes, I had that feature inadvertently turned on. > > That is funny. I had thought the problem occurred as soon as you powered up > the machine, not after someone had logged in. Save my response for machines > which "purr" when you first turn them on.... :-) Well, I am now dutifully cleaning my slab's innards. The color monitor is a bit more difficult as I'm a bit timid about taking off that metal cage one finds inside the black case. So I'm contenting (?) myself with blowing compressed air through the holes in the cage. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@scf.usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: russ@physical27 (russ bowers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: HP 712/60 Hangs Date: 20 Feb 1996 03:27:08 GMT Organization: University of Florida Message-ID: <4gbf2c$dft@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Hi Everyone, I am running NS 3.3 on an HP 712/60 and have run into the annoying problem that the machine hangs about twice a day. There are no logged messages, it simply hangs and the only remedy is to unplug the machine and restart it. I have disabled the NSF daemon, as recommended by NeXT, but it still hangs. Obviously this is really hindering my productivity and pushing my patience with NextStep. This posting is a last resort to get help in tracing the problem. It seems to me that it is a serious bug in NeXTStep and it would be very suprising if others have not encountered it. Next tech support has sent me the following message regarding this problem: >Subject: [79302] HP712 Hangs >Reply-To: appendlog@NeXT.COM, Joe_Liu@NeXT.COM >I came across a log from a customer who had a problem similar to >yours. The root of the problem in that case seems to be abnormal >packets on the network. The solution was to put a bridge that filtered >the network traffic in between the HP and the rest of the network, so >that only packets destined for the HP would go through. After that >was done, the system was up for days without any problems. >Can you think of any unusual network clients or servers on your net? >Newer versions of NFS, Netware, other protocols? Has anyone seen this problem on their machine? I can't afford a network bridge. Thanks, C. Russell Bowers Chemistry Department, University of Florida (904) 846-0839
From: shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP 712/60 Hangs Date: 20 Feb 1996 09:01:51 GMT Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland) Message-ID: <4gc2lv$hpu@cisun2000.unil.ch> References: <4gbf2c$dft@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> We had exactly the same problem with our two 712's. The solution was putting a bridge in, sorry! I think that NeXT should be able to write more robust drivers don't you? Our SGI and HPUX machines on the same network had NO problems. It's immensely frustrating and makes me look forward to be OS-FREE from NEXT, i.e. OPENSTEP on XXXXX. -Sean --- Sean L. Hill Research in Computational Neuroscience Institut de Physiologie E-mail: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch Rue du Bugnon, 7 Work: ++41 021 692.5516 CH-1005 Lausanne SWITZERLAND Fax: ++41 021 692.5505
From: ronald@trace.com.tw (Ronald Wiplinger) Message-ID: <cancel.728708Au4636to52046@news.trace.com.tw> Control: cancel <728708Au4636to52046@news.trace.com.tw> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <728708Au4636to52046@news.trace.com.tw> Date: 20 Feb 1996 11:18:51 GMT Cancelled by jem@xpat.com. 824815131 NEWYEAR Original Subject was: *+* Happy New Lunar Year *+*
From: pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: OHOH - my Turbo Color is purring??? Date: 20 Feb 1996 11:52:57 GMT Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department. Message-ID: <4gccmp$ngi@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <4fhkoq$src@usc.edu> <4g3cqi$8qu@usc.edu> <4ga63g$4jd@news.its.com> <4gb3kj$ooo@usc.edu> In article <4gb3kj$ooo@usc.edu>, Matthew N. Reichman <reichman@scf.usc.edu> wrote: >Well, I am now dutifully cleaning my slab's innards. The color monitor is a >bit more difficult as I'm a bit timid about taking off that metal cage one >finds inside the black case. So I'm contenting (?) myself with blowing >compressed air through the holes in the cage. AHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Don't do that!!! If you pop the back off of a CRT device and happen to contact the wrong thing, you'll get the (last) shock of your life. There is a great big capacitor in there that buffers the charge that the electron gun needs, and grounding it with your body can supply well more than the minimum number of amperes needed to stop your heart. There is a necessary device (a big resistor) that technicians use to discharge the capacitor before servicing a monitor or television. Be careful! Paul
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: OHOH - my Turbo Color is purring??? Date: 20 Feb 1996 19:07:22 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-i-52.usc.edu Message-ID: <4gd65a$dig@usc.edu> References: <4fhkoq$src@usc.edu> <4g3cqi$8qu@usc.edu> <4ga63g$4jd@news.its.com> <4gb3kj$ooo@usc.edu> <4gccmp$ngi@agate.berkeley.edu> In <4gccmp$ngi@agate.berkeley.edu> Paul Robert Brown wrote: > In article <4gb3kj$ooo@usc.edu>, > Matthew N. Reichman <reichman@scf.usc.edu> wrote: > >Well, I am now dutifully cleaning my slab's innards. The color monitor is a > >bit more difficult as I'm a bit timid about taking off that metal cage one > >finds inside the black case. So I'm contenting (?) myself with blowing > >compressed air through the holes in the cage. > > AHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Don't do that!!! If you pop the back off of a CRT device > and happen to contact the wrong thing, you'll get the (last) shock of > your life. There is a great big capacitor in there that buffers the > charge that the electron gun needs, and grounding it with your body can > supply well more than the minimum number of amperes needed to stop your > heart. There is a necessary device (a big resistor) that technicians use > to discharge the capacitor before servicing a monitor or television. > > Be careful! Thanks for potentially saving my life. 8>) At least I know I have right on my desk an easy way out if things get too difficult! 9-) -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@scf.usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: richard@brainstorm.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Bug with the kill() system call Date: 22 Feb 1996 10:02:26 GMT Organization: EUnet-GB distributed news service, +44 227 266466 Message-ID: <4ghevj$ba5@bsdi201.britain.eu.net> References: <4gheen$b8c@bsdi201.britain.eu.net> Sorry about the 'From:' address in my posting - I forgot to configure my new newsreader properly.
From: richard@next1. (Richard Frith-Macdonald) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Bug with the kill() system call Date: 22 Feb 1996 09:53:27 GMT Organization: EUnet-GB distributed news service, +44 227 266466 Message-ID: <4gheen$b8c@bsdi201.britain.eu.net> Has anyone come accross this bug with 'kill()'? Using NeXTstep intel 3.3 - I am using kill() with 0 as its second argument to test to see if a process with a known pid exists. For some processes, the call returns a success status, even though the process has died/been killed and no longer shows up in a 'ps -ax' listing. The processes involved have been doing a lot of file locking, and I wonder if that could be anything to do with it since I know that the file locking is very dodgy. Perhaps the process slot is being retained due to it referencing a locked file and is therefore still detected by kill() but not by ps? In any case, can anyone suggest another method of (reasonably quickly) finding out if a process is still live. The only thing I can think of - running ps in a sub-process and sacnning its output - would be far to slow and inefficient.
From: Tony Becker <tony@mcrsys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP 712/60 Hangs Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 18:39:50 -0500 Organization: MCRSYS, Fl. Message-ID: <312BAD46.41C6@mcrsys.com> References: <4gbf2c$dft@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit russ bowers wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I am running NS 3.3 on an HP 712/60 and have run into the annoying > problem that the machine hangs about twice a day. There are no > logged messages, it simply hangs and the only remedy is to unplug > the machine and restart it. I have disabled the NSF daemon, as > recommended by NeXT, but it still hangs. Obviously this is really > hindering my productivity and pushing my patience with NextStep. > This posting is a last resort to get help in tracing the problem. It > seems to me that it is a serious bug in NeXTStep and it would be very > suprising if others have not encountered it. > > Next tech support has sent me the following message regarding this > problem: > > >Subject: [79302] HP712 Hangs > >Reply-To: appendlog@NeXT.COM, Joe_Liu@NeXT.COM > > >I came across a log from a customer who had a problem similar to > >yours. The root of the problem in that case seems to be abnormal > >packets on the network. The solution was to put a bridge that filtered > >the network traffic in between the HP and the rest of the network, so > >that only packets destined for the HP would go through. After that > >was done, the system was up for days without any problems. > > >Can you think of any unusual network clients or servers on your net? > >Newer versions of NFS, Netware, other protocols? > > Has anyone seen this problem on their machine? I can't afford a > network bridge. > > Thanks, C. Russell Bowers > Chemistry Department, University of Florida > (904) 846-0839 I'v seen the same type of problem with a 712/80. As a general rule, very network problem intolerant. Insure DNS answers always correct, and try pulling the ethernet connector when it hangs 8-). Tony.
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 driver bugs? Date: 22 Feb 1996 22:47:25 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <4girpt$l9e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <4g8hm6$890@ruby.digisys.net> In article <4g8hm6$890@ruby.digisys.net>, James R. Pooton <james@digisys.net> wrote: >Hello everyone, > >It's seems I've run into a bug in NS's Adaptec 2940 driver (3.37 and >earlier). I had the card working just fine with the following >configuration: > >P133 32MB RAM Triton, Burst Cache >Adaptec 2940 >1 SCSI Seagate Hawk 1GB >1 SCSI Seagate Barracuda 4GB >(The other usual goodies video,sound,etc.) > >The 4GB drive was partitioned into 2 2GB parts. It worked fine with >this configuration for about 8 months straight. > >Then I added another Seagate Barracuda 4GB (partitioned the same way). >All the drives are internal so I made sure the last drive and the >Adaptor were terminated. But then the SCSI bus started to lock after a >random period of time. I made sure the drives were OK, I made sure they >were terminated properly, and even swapped a new motherboard thinking it >may be a PCI problem. Problem stayed. > >So I swapped the Adaptec 2940 with a new Adaptec 2940 thinking it was >fried. The problem stayed. So I swapped another 2940 we had working >fine in another 1 drive NS machine. Same problem. > >Finally I said the hell with it, and put in a Bus Logic 946C to give it >a shot. It's worked great ever since. So what's the deal with the >Adaptec 2940 and longer SCSI chains? Is ANYONE using it successfully >with 3 or more large drives? > I have a very similar system to what you describe: Asus motherboard, pentium 133, Adaptec 2940 My computer SCSI has been working perfectly for over 6 months with this setup. Here's my SCSI chain: ID #0 Seagate 34230 2 GB HD ID #1 Maxtor 1240S 1.2 GB HD ID #2 Seagate 31230 1 GB HD ID #3 Pinnacle PMO-630 MO (external) ID #4 Toshiba 3501 CD-ROM I also have a scanner, a ZIP drive, and a Pinnacle R1000 CD-Recorder connected at various times, and everything has been working fine with the Adaptec 2940. No problems AT ALL in NEXTSTEP, Windows 3.1, and Windows '95. The Adaptec 2940 has older 1.1 ROM, and I'm not using the newest updated driver from NeXT since everything has been working fine. I have command queuing disabled in Configure.app. I don't know what the problem with your system is. Maybe it's the make of your motherboard or video card or (I'm sure you've checked it) SCSI termination, the SCSI ribbon cable, and the connectors on the SCSI cable. Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Alexandra 0.82 trouble Message-ID: <1996Feb22.102126.46052@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Date: 22 Feb 96 10:21:26 MET I've installed the new version of Alexandra (0.82) on a network of NeXT systems running 3.3. We had no great problems with verion 0.81, but the new version generates tons of XHEADR error messages: Alexandra[297]: Assertion failed: INTERNAL ERROR:XHDR mismatch, causes a SIGSEGV interrupt every now and then, and will even quit without a warning. I was reading the csn groups when I noticed this unpleasant behaviour. Has anyone else had such an experience? I've had to revert to 0.81 in order to read news. -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: powell@tropic.aoml.noaa.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP 712/60 Hangs Date: 23 Feb 1996 17:09:52 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <4gksd0$t8a@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> References: <4gbf2c$dft@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> <4gc2lv$hpu@cisun2000.unil.ch> <4gctom$bl@turbocat.snafu.de> We've been having similar problems with our patched HP 712's. WHere would I check to see if Novell was enabled? dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) wrote: > shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) wrote: > > We had exactly the same problem with our two 712's. The solution was > > putting a bridge in, sorry! I think that NeXT should be able to write more > > robust drivers don't you? Our SGI and HPUX machines on the same network > had > > NO problems. > > Is it possible that you have Novell enabled? Turn it off. > I have no problems with the HPs in this case. > Have you patched the OS? > _ _ > _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, > (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, > _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 > (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail) -- Dr. Mark D. Powell powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov Research Meteorologist, (Member, NOAA '96 Olympics Marine Forecast Team) (Swimmer, IMCO Windsurfer, NEXTSTEP advocate) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher A. Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Alexandra 0.82 trouble Date: 23 Feb 1996 16:06:12 GMT Organization: WolfWare (http://www.wolfware.com) Message-ID: <4gkolk$ja4@shellx.best.com> References: <1996Feb22.102126.46052@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> In-Reply-To: <1996Feb22.102126.46052@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> On 02/22/96, frank@ifi.unibas.ch wrote: >I've installed the new version of Alexandra (0.82) on a network of NeXT >systems running 3.3. > >We had no great problems with verion 0.81, but the new version generates tons >of XHEADR error messages: May we humbly suggest that you take a look at NewsFlash Version 2 at http://www.wolfware.com. We haven't found an article or article-header which can kill it yet.... -- Christopher Wolf - WolfWare - cwolf@wolfware.com (NeXTmail & MIME accepted) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- NewsFlash Version 2 - a threaded NeXTSTEP Usenet newsreader - is now available. Visit http://www.wolfware.com for details!
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Alexandra 0.82 trouble Date: 23 Feb 1996 20:28:05 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-d-04.usc.edu Message-ID: <4gl80l$r00@usc.edu> References: <1996Feb22.102126.46052@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <4gkolk$ja4@shellx.best.com> In <4gkolk$ja4@shellx.best.com> Christopher A. Wolf wrote: > On 02/22/96, frank@ifi.unibas.ch wrote: > >I've installed the new version of Alexandra (0.82) on a network of NeXT > >systems running 3.3. > > > >We had no great problems with verion 0.81, but the new version generates tons > >of XHEADR error messages: > > May we humbly suggest that you take a look at NewsFlash Version 2 at > http://www.wolfware.com. We haven't found an article or article-header which can > kill it yet.... Chris - I thought these things were always introduced by "(shameless plug)" 8-) 9-) ;-) -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@scf.usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Weird, weird error Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 24 Feb 1996 07:32:29 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu Message-ID: <4gmeud$n58@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: strange I just had a ratehr strange thing happen, figured I'd pass it on and see if anyone else had ever seen it. I clicked on the Dictionary.app from my shelf, and it went to the directory like normal, and then a bunch of icons randomly disappeared off my shelf... It seemed ok otherwise, so I just re-arranged them back on. Alittle later, this happened and WM blew chunks: Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: incorrect table Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: bug Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: incorrect table Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: bug Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: incorrect table Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: bug Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: incorrect table Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: bug Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: incorrect table Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: bug Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: incorrect table Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: bug Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: incorrect table Feb 24 02:20:47 vampire WM[236]: **** NXMapRemove: bug Feb 24 02:21:23 vampire syslog: Tool: bootstrap port died: 1102; exiting Feb 24 02:21:24 vampire syslog: Tool: bootstrap port died: 1102; exiting Feb 24 02:23:33 vampire loginwindow[224]: Workspace exited (ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0). Feb 24 02:23:37 vampire loginwindow[224]: creating new loginImage (I type exit here at the login panel) Feb 24 02:23:41 vampire loginwindow[224]: exiting Feb 24 02:23:47 vampire mach: audio kernel server unloaded Feb 24 02:23:49 vampire mach: audio kernel server initialized Feb 24 02:24:02 vampire loginwindow[411]: running /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.ap
Date: 24 Feb 1996 11:17:23 GMT From: left@www4.clever.net (EXPERT SPORTS) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Message-ID: <cancel.4gmj0i$19a5@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Control: cancel <4gmj0i$19a5@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Subject: #################################################################### From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Alexandra 0.82 trouble Date: 24 Feb 1996 19:49:44 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4gnq4o$6q6@news.its.com> References: <1996Feb22.102126.46052@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> frank@ifi.unibas.ch wrote: > I've installed the new version of Alexandra (0.82) on a network of NeXT > systems running 3.3. > > We had no great problems with verion 0.81, but the new version generates > tons of XHEADR error messages: > > Alexandra[297]: Assertion failed: INTERNAL ERROR:XHDR mismatch, > > causes a SIGSEGV interrupt every now and then, and will even quit without a > warning. I was reading the csn groups when I noticed this unpleasant > behaviour. [ ... ] I've never encountered such an error using v0.82. I would guess that the problem lies with your news server-- what software is it running? (I use INN1.4-unoff2 and am waiting for unoff-4 to be released with fixed streaming mode before upgrading.) -Chuck Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP 712/60 Hangs Date: 25 Feb 1996 17:19:42 GMT Organization: Emory University Distribution: world Message-ID: <4gq5ne$31k@moe.cc.emory.edu> References: <4gnqkq$2e7@turbocat.snafu.de> In article <4gnqkq$2e7@turbocat.snafu.de> dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) writes: > powell@tropic.aoml.noaa.gov (Mark Powell) wrote: > > We've been having similar problems with our patched HP 712's. > > WHere would I check to see if Novell was enabled? > > With NetInfoManger.app. The setting is in /localconfig/NetWare/enabled. > > I found out that sometimes the HPs hang if you use NetWare. I don't think NetWare is the key... My machines hang sometimes without NetWare... and generally do it when there is a lot of IP traffic. It is like they simply isolate themselves from the net for no reason... and only a reboot helps. There are also no error messages in the logs... It is not a crash... but it is as effective as one. --- William Morse Director / ITS Emory Law School _ _ > _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, > (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, > _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 > (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: Rod Gilchrist <103127.17@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Parallel driver problem on Intel Date: 26 Feb 1996 20:25:48 GMT Organization: Visible Genetics Message-ID: <4gt50c$25m$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> I just bought a new HP deskJet 660C with the intention of using Steve Ludtke's ghostscript set up on my PC (ASUS motherboard, P75). I find that the parallel port driver returns from writes after every character. It seems to work, but it is useless for downloading bitmaped data to the printer (27 minutes for a page of postscript text). The printer supports the IEEE upgrade to the parallel port connection (EPP? ECP?) as does the motherboard, but I have it turned off (doesn't work any better with it on, though sometimes it will take 10 chars per write). Has anyone seen this? Is there a parallel port driver out there with source? I'll fix it myself if necessary, but I'd rather not write the driver from scratch. Thanks. - Rod Gilchrist Visible Genetics, Toronto -- Rod Gilchrist Visible Genetics, Toronto
From: cello@virgil (Sean Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Looking for Sound Blaster AWE32 driver Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 27 Feb 1996 16:59:07 GMT Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <4gvd8r$blc@decaxp.harvard.edu> References: <4g2i0c$rlm@dobie.loop.com> <4gbag6$c2p@master.ftn.net> <4gqgr2$i2j@core.bard.edu> <4grqok$o1f@shellx.best.com> <4gsu69$24k@turbocat.snafu.de> David Wetzel (dave@turbocat.snafu.de) wrote: : I have the same problems with my Mircrosoft W. SoundSys (clone) : BUT with : sndplay (1) - play soundfiles : sndrecord (1) - record a soundfile from sound-in or the DSP : it simply works! : That should be an easy fix for NeXT. Ah, yes. One might think so. But no. A very nice programmer at NeXT wrote a program to fix the playback problems with Intel hardware, implemented in Paul Lansky's Pplay.app program (see the Princeton links on my home page). Recording is another issue. I'd be curious to know if you can record TRUE stereo 44.1Khz from your card (The MediaTrix). Most NS-FIP cards simply record the left channel TWICE (once to each channel of the file) instead of real stereo. The only card I've actually got stereo recording from is the Pro Audio Basic. One program I haven't tried recording with is called Production_Partner, by someone in Germany (sorry, I forget the name). That might be more successful. In the meantime, I'm debating moving over to SGI or LINUX. Gee, the NeXT platforms USED to be a pro-audio platform. . . Sean - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sean Varah Harvard Computer Music Studio cello@mario.harvard.edu, http://www-mario.harvard.edu NeXTMail Welcome - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
From: kay@cordis.lu (Kay Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Emacs Keys? Date: 28 Feb 1996 11:27:20 GMT Organization: Infopartners S.A. Luxembourg Message-ID: <4h1e6o$6fu@oops.ip.lu> References: <4gnthg$2hj@turbocat.snafu.de> In <4gnthg$2hj@turbocat.snafu.de> David Wetzel wrote: > Hello! > > From the online help: > > Alternate-< Moves to beginning of text > Alternate-> Moves to end of text > > On my "NeXTDeutsch" 'Alternate-<' gives me a beep. > 'Alternate->' gives '|' > You have to define the Meta key to something with dwrite or so. Carl Edman once wrote it to me -- Braun's definition of a crash project? Trying to make a baby in one month, by getting nine women pregnant. Kay Schulz k.schulz@cordis.lu
From: kay@cordis.lu (Kay Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Emacs Keys? Date: 28 Feb 1996 11:29:17 GMT Organization: Infopartners S.A. Luxembourg Message-ID: <4h1ead$6fu@oops.ip.lu> References: <4gnthg$2hj@turbocat.snafu.de> In <4gnthg$2hj@turbocat.snafu.de> David Wetzel wrote: > Hello! > > From the online help: > > Alternate-< Moves to beginning of text > Alternate-> Moves to end of text > I forgot Emacs AlternateIsMeta No Set that to YES -- Braun's definition of a crash project? Trying to make a baby in one month, by getting nine women pregnant. Kay Schulz k.schulz@cordis.lu
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FAQ? TeXEdit & lack of Emacs keybindings on Intel Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Date: 27 Feb 1996 13:19:35 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <4gv0d7$jgb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <4gr904$402@styx.uwa.edu.au> Leigh Smith (leigh@antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au) wrote: : I know I've seen past postings on the question of where Dmitri Linde is : now located, and if an update is possible to get Emacs key bindings on the : Intel version of TeXEdit 3.0 (part of InstantTeX 3.1). Can anyone fill me : in on any further support of TeXEdit.app? In the next two days, I'll put a quad-FAT binary of InstantTeX on the ftp archives. Dmitri had to cease development, but he was so kind to hand me over his sources. This new version (3.1b) will have Emacs keybindings working for all four architectures! Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact RhiNO | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 54-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 54-8312 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail, MIME) |
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Looking for Sound Blaster AWE32 driver Date: 26 Feb 1996 18:29:29 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4gsu69$24k@turbocat.snafu.de> References: <4g2i0c$rlm@dobie.loop.com> <4gbag6$c2p@master.ftn.net> <4gqgr2$i2j@core.bard.edu> <4grqok$o1f@shellx.best.com> sams@shellx.best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) wrote: (...) > under mail. I must wonder if this is a problem with the > applications under Intel. When it works (about half > the time) it works fine. Weird. I bet sound recording > under Intel never got much testing... > > cheers, > -sam I have the same problems with my Mircrosoft W. SoundSys (clone) BUT with sndplay (1) - play soundfiles sndrecord (1) - record a soundfile from sound-in or the DSP it simply works! That should be an easy fix for NeXT. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: david@onestep.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP 712/60 Hangs Date: 29 Feb 1996 17:15:50 GMT Organization: PSINet UK Public Usenet Site Message-ID: <4h4n06$g1j@pub.news.uk.psi.net> References: <4gvkre$er@turbocat.snafu.de> Hi, Check your /usr/adm/messages file looking for SCSI disk errors. We have found problems with the HP official 2GB Quantum drives not returning SCSI requests for several minutes or not at all. This can give the appearance of a hung system. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions plc | UK phone: 01702 551010 | Vendors of NS/OS 351-359 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | MCCAs, Hardware Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Apps, Networks Essex | | ISDN, Training SS7 2BT | Email: david@onestep.co.uk | Maintenance England | (NeXTMail/MIME ok) | and Support
From: leigh@antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: FAQ? TeXEdit & lack of Emacs keybindings on Intel Date: 26 Feb 1996 03:21:40 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <4gr904$402@styx.uwa.edu.au> I know I've seen past postings on the question of where Dmitri Linde is now located, and if an update is possible to get Emacs key bindings on the Intel version of TeXEdit 3.0 (part of InstantTeX 3.1). Can anyone fill me in on any further support of TeXEdit.app? Thanks -- Leigh Smith Computer Science, University of Western Australia +61-9-380-1945 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) "In a world where success means gaining time, thinking has a single but irredeemable fault: it's a waste of time" - J-F. Lyotard
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From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Emacs Keys? Message-ID: <1996Feb29.092029.46078@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> Date: 29 Feb 96 09:20:29 MET References: <4gnthg$2hj@turbocat.snafu.de> <4h1ead$6fu@oops.ip.lu> Distribution: world Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland In article <4h1ead$6fu@oops.ip.lu>, kay@cordis.lu (Kay Schulz) writes: > In <4gnthg$2hj@turbocat.snafu.de> David Wetzel wrote: >> Alternate-< Moves to beginning of text >> Alternate-> Moves to end of text >> > I forgot > Emacs AlternateIsMeta No > Set that to YES > Kay Schulz k.schulz@cordis.lu I don't think that this will help for german keyboards, cause you need the Alternate key to create the < and >, so you still have to remap the < and > symbols to another key to solve the problem -- *************************************************************** Daniel Haas Physikalisches Institut Universitaet Basel email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please) smail: D. Haas, Kreuzstrasse 150, D-79540 Loerrach, Germany homepage: http://www1.psi.ch/~haasd/home.html (incl. links to magic, search pages and more) *************************************************************** "Bill Gates wife has informed him that the deployment of Bill Gates IV has been delayed for another 6 months due to a redesign of the user interface." ***************************************************************
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Serial port drivers Date: 28 Feb 1996 13:46:27 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4h1mbj$g5@turbocat.snafu.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! For my final exam at college I have to write a special application that makes use of one serial port. The hardware I am talking to is capable to do different baud rates. On startup, I try to find the hardware (first at default baud rate, if that fails at all others). The latest ISA Serial port (3.33) hangs on this line when I want to change the port´s baud rate : if(ioctl(port,TIOCSETP,&tdis) == -1 ){ With MUX it runs BUT it takes 60 secounds to scan all baud rates on my P100 with 32MB! On a NeXTstation 040@25 Mhz it takes less than 10 secounds (And does not hang)! All machines run NS 3.3 PL 1. Any comments? _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: kiwi@ariane.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Parallel driver problem on Intel Date: 27 Feb 1996 14:36:15 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4gv4sv$62d@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <4gt50c$25m$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Rod Gilchrist (103127.17@CompuServe.COM) wrote: [...] : I find that the parallel port driver returns from writes : after every character. It seems to work, but it is useless : for downloading bitmaped data to the printer (27 minutes : for a page of postscript text). Your interface is broken - it doesn't produce IRQs : The printer supports the IEEE upgrade to the parallel : port connection (EPP? ECP?) as does the motherboard, but : I have it turned off (doesn't work any better with it on, : though sometimes it will take 10 chars per write). : Has anyone seen this? Yes. : Is there a parallel port driver out there with source? ftp://buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de/pub/next/ParallelPortDriver1.4.1.tar.gz HTH -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: kiwi@ariane.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Weird CHOWN behavior... Date: 27 Feb 1996 14:39:09 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4gv52d$62d@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <4gub25$1g6@cloner3.netcom.com> Randy Vose (Bobbernickle) wrote: : I was having very weird experiences with CHOWN this evening which I can't : explain... I would guess that the files changing ownership were on an external drive which has no entry in /etc/fstab. Thus the drive will get mounted by WorkspaceManager to be owned by the person who logs on to console. Put an entry into /etc/fstab for the filesystem. Do _not_ use the noauto option (as for the /-filesystem)! -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP 712/60 Hangs Date: 27 Feb 1996 19:08:30 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4gvkre$er@turbocat.snafu.de> References: <4gnqkq$2e7@turbocat.snafu.de> <4gq5ne$31k@moe.cc.emory.edu> wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) wrote: (...) > I don't think NetWare is the key... My machines hang sometimes without NetWare... > and generally do it when there is a lot of IP traffic. It is like they simply Are you 100% sure that your cabling is ok? We had a BNC-connector that was badly crimped. That caused hangs on the whole net if there was heavy traffic on the bus. All was fine - if only some users were in the pool. Have you checked your net with a analyser? _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: deininger@encmail.encompass.com (David Deininger) Subject: pscat: trouble reading .ct file Message-ID: <1996Feb27.214312.18443@glv.cen.encompass.com> Keywords: pscat Sender: news@glv.cen.encompass.com Organization: Encompass Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:43:12 GMT Hello, I'm running NS3.3 Intel, and I can't print manpages (using man -t) because pscat returns the error "trouble reading .ct file." Any suggestions as to what might be causing this and how I could fix it? Email responses would be appreciated, because my news feed is flaky and I don't want to miss any answers to my question. Also, a while back there was a thread about MallocDebug.app crashing on NS3.3 Intel. I missed the end of it--was there any solution or resolution? I too get nothing but crashes when running MallocDebug. Thanks, David Deininger (deininger@encmail.encompass.com)
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Parallel driver problem on Intel Date: 27 Feb 1996 23:10:43 GMT Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content Message-ID: <4h031j$dee@miwok.nbn.com> References: <4gt50c$25m$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> In <4gt50c$25m$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Rod Gilchrist wrote: > I just bought a new HP deskJet 660C with the intention > of using Steve Ludtke's ghostscript set up on my PC > (ASUS motherboard, P75). > > I find that the parallel port driver returns from writes > after every character. It seems to work, but it is useless > for downloading bitmaped data to the printer (27 minutes > for a page of postscript text). > > Hi There: Although eXTRAPRINT is not for free, it certainly doesn't take anywhere near 27 minutes to print pages. Among other reasons, eXTRAPRINT has a highly evolved, multi-threaded "band" RIP. This means that just a portion of the page is rendered at a time, before the resulting bitmap data is compressed as much as possible and transmitted. While one band is being transmitted, the next is being rendered. The latest version of eXTRAPRINT supports the HP 660 and a host of other printers. If you're interested visit this page: http://www.gscorp.com/eXTRAPRINT.html Best regards, John http://www.gscorp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> Message-ID: <9602292042.AA01423@zaphod> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Christian Starkjohann <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 21:42:10 +0100 Subject: Re: Parallel driver problem on Intel Cc: Rod Gilchrist <103127.17@CompuServe.COM> In article <4gt50c$25m$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Rod Gilchrist <103127.17@CompuServe.COM> writes: > I just bought a new HP deskJet 660C with the intention > of using Steve Ludtke's ghostscript set up on my PC > (ASUS motherboard, P75). > > I find that the parallel port driver returns from writes > after every character. It seems to work, but it is useless > for downloading bitmaped data to the printer (27 minutes > for a page of postscript text). > > The printer supports the IEEE upgrade to the parallel > port connection (EPP? ECP?) as does the motherboard, but > I have it turned off (doesn't work any better with it on, > though sometimes it will take 10 chars per write). > > Has anyone seen this? > > Is there a parallel port driver out there with source? > > I'll fix it myself if necessary, but I'd rather not write the > driver from scratch. You might want to try my replacement for NeXT's parallel port driver. The latest test version is available from: ftp://hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at/pub/ParallelPortDriver1.4.gnutar.gz Note: this version is a merge between my latest version (1.3beta) and Axel Habermann's changes (with some adaptions). If it turns out to be stable, it will be released as version 1.5 within the next few weeks. PS: I receive news with a delay of 3 to 6 days, so maybe my reply is a little late... Bye, Christian. -- Christian Starkjohann <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> or <cs@ds1.kph.tuwien.ac.at>, finger for PGP Public Key. PGP fingerprint: DF FD 40 60 91 6A 14 1C CD 2C E9 07 38 AE CB 4E
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Possible bug in ping? Date: 1 Mar 1996 15:23:51 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <4h74q7$1vl@news.tuwien.ac.at> When running ping on my computer, I noticed that the last digit of the number of msecs for each incoming packet is always 9 or 0. This problem only occurs on white hardware. I have tried two Intel-NeXTs with different network cards and different motherboards and both suffered from this problem. Ping on black hardware is OK. Here are some examples: PING raven.cg.tuwien.ac.at: 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 128.130.166.19: icmp_seq=0. time=30. ms 64 bytes from 128.130.166.19: icmp_seq=1. time=0. ms 64 bytes from 128.130.166.19: icmp_seq=2. time=0. ms 64 bytes from 128.130.166.19: icmp_seq=3. time=0. ms ^ PING pitcher.PEAK.ORG: 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=0. time=389. ms 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=1. time=399. ms 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=2. time=409. ms 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=3. time=409. ms 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=4. time=399. ms ^ PING phoenix.doc.ic.ac.uk: 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 146.169.32.5: icmp_seq=0. time=329. ms 64 bytes from 146.169.32.5: icmp_seq=1. time=379. ms 64 bytes from 146.169.32.5: icmp_seq=2. time=419. ms 64 bytes from 146.169.32.5: icmp_seq=4. time=299. ms 64 bytes from 146.169.32.5: icmp_seq=5. time=519. ms ^ I'd like to know if this problem occurs on all white Nexts, and if there is a cure (maybe a better version of ping)? Thanks in advance for any information! -- Robert F. Tobler ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: michael@fortress.cs.wwu.edu (Michael F. DeMan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: New Intel serial port drivers Date: 27 Feb 1996 20:37:14 GMT Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <4gvq1q$n7q@ra.cc.wwu.edu> Hey, A couple weeks ago I upgraded NS3.3 to the new serial port drivers since the old ones didn't go ver 19,200. Since then I've had a variety of problems using PPP. It seems that when the port is released it there is a bug, and trying to re-open the port causes the ENTIRE system to crash! Has anybody else had similar problems or used these new drivers? Thanks, Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard) Subject: Re: Possible bug in ping? Message-ID: <DnLqJ6.LM0@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo References: <4h74q7$1vl@news.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 18:40:17 GMT In article <4h74q7$1vl@news.tuwien.ac.at> rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at writes: > > When running ping on my computer, I noticed that the last digit of the number > of msecs for each incoming packet is always 9 or 0. This problem only occurs > on white hardware. I have tried two Intel-NeXTs with different network cards > and different motherboards and both suffered from this problem. Ping on black > hardware is OK. > > Here are some examples: > > PING raven.cg.tuwien.ac.at: 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from 128.130.166.19: icmp_seq=0. time=30. ms > 64 bytes from 128.130.166.19: icmp_seq=1. time=0. ms > 64 bytes from 128.130.166.19: icmp_seq=2. time=0. ms > 64 bytes from 128.130.166.19: icmp_seq=3. time=0. ms > ^ > PING pitcher.PEAK.ORG: 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=0. time=389. ms > 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=1. time=399. ms > 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=2. time=409. ms <snip> galileo> ping pitcher.peak.org PING pitcher.peak.org: 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=0. time=212. ms 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=1. time=196. ms 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=3. time=219. ms 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=4. time=209. ms 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=5. time=192. ms 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=7. time=188. ms 64 bytes from 198.68.23.59: icmp_seq=8. time=209. ms ^C ----pitcher.peak.org PING Statistics---- 9 packets transmitted, 7 packets received, 22% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 188/203/219 From NSFIP 3.2. -- Mario Stargard | "Bill Gates says no matter how much more Optometry Computing | power we can supply, he'll develop some University of Waterloo | really exciting software that will bring http://quark.uwaterloo.ca/~mario | the machine to its knees." NeXTMail Welcome, MIME Tolerated | -- Intel VP David House, 16 October 1989
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: new version of 'top' and the -q flag. Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:53:05 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960229105020.1216C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I installed 'top' chmod 4711, chown root.kmem, but cannot use the '-q' flag unless I am logged in as 'root' "top: warning: `-q' option can only be used by root" This seems to indicate that the setuid to root isn't being recognized correctly, but I might be wrong. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles, swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ, and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP 712/60 Hangs Date: 24 Feb 1996 19:58:18 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4gnqkq$2e7@turbocat.snafu.de> References: <4gbf2c$dft@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> <4gc2lv$hpu@cisun2000.unil.ch> <4gctom$bl@turbocat.snafu.de> <4gksd0$t8a@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> powell@tropic.aoml.noaa.gov (Mark Powell) wrote: > We've been having similar problems with our patched HP 712's. > WHere would I check to see if Novell was enabled? With NetInfoManger.app. The setting is in /localconfig/NetWare/enabled. I found out that sometimes the HPs hang if you use NetWare. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Alexandra 0.82 trouble Date: 24 Feb 1996 20:12:56 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4gnrg8$2e7@turbocat.snafu.de> References: <1996Feb22.102126.46052@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <4gkolk$ja4@shellx.best.com> cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher A. Wolf) wrote: (...) > > May we humbly suggest that you take a look at NewsFlash Version 2 at > http://www.wolfware.com. We haven't found an article or article-header which can > kill it yet.... Alexandra is FREE your App is to be paid. I have not found an author who killed Alexandra 0.81 yet. I am nearly happy with it the features of Alexandra. The features I miss will come sometime. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Emacs Keys? Date: 24 Feb 1996 20:47:44 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4gnthg$2hj@turbocat.snafu.de> Hello! From the online help: Alternate-< Moves to beginning of text Alternate-> Moves to end of text On my "NeXTDeutsch" 'Alternate-<' gives me a beep. 'Alternate->' gives '|' (On NS 3.3. I checked Intel and Motorola) _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: abdul@localhost.ios.com (Scott Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Weird CHOWN behavior... Date: 2 Mar 1996 08:26:03 GMT Organization: Internet Online Services Message-ID: <4h90ms$s5i@news.ios.com> References: <4gub25$1g6@cloner3.netcom.com> <4gv52d$62d@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> In <4gv52d$62d@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann wrote: > Randy Vose (Bobbernickle) wrote: > : I was having very weird experiences with CHOWN this evening which I can't > : explain... > > I would guess that the files changing ownership were on > an external drive which has no entry in /etc/fstab. Thus > the drive will get mounted by WorkspaceManager to be > owned by the person who logs on to console. > > Put an entry into /etc/fstab for the filesystem. Do _not_ > use the noauto option (as for the /-filesystem)! > -- > Axel Habermann > kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 > > Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, > haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp > I had the same problem what kind of entry do i need to put in fstab for a second internal harddrive /dev/sd1a Scott Turner FirstSight INc. 1stsight@worldweb.net
From: kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Weird CHOWN behavior... Date: 2 Mar 1996 16:39:19 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4h9tjn$9c8@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <4gub25$1g6@cloner3.netcom.com> <4gv52d$62d@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <4h90ms$s5i@news.ios.com> Scott Turner (abdul@localhost.ios.com) wrote: [..] : I had the same problem what kind of entry do i need to put in fstab for a : second internal harddrive /dev/sd1a Add a line like /dev/sd1a /headroom 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 to /etc/fstab if you want your disk mounted under the name /headroom -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: new version of 'top' and the -q flag. Date: 2 Mar 1996 15:57:25 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4h9r55$cr@turbocat.snafu.de> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960229105020.1216C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: > > I installed 'top' chmod 4711, chown root.kmem, but cannot use the '-q' > flag unless I am logged in as 'root' > > "top: warning: `-q' option can only be used by root" > > This seems to indicate that the setuid to root isn't being recognized > correctly, but I might be wrong. Is that the flag to get more CPU cycles? A user should not be able to do this! _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: new version of 'top' and the -q flag. Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:31:44 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960304102701.2825L-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4h9r55$cr@turbocat.snafu.de> On 2 Mar 1996, David Wetzel wrote: > "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: > > > > I installed 'top' chmod 4711, chown root.kmem, but cannot use the '-q' > > flag unless I am logged in as 'root' > > > > "top: warning: `-q' option can only be used by root" > > > > This seems to indicate that the setuid to root isn't being recognized > > correctly, but I might be wrong. > > Is that the flag to get more CPU cycles? > > A user should not be able to do this! My apologies for not speaking more precisely (I thought I had). I could not get the '-q' flag to work when logged in as a user with 'top' set to execute as root (4755, or "-rwxr-xr-x root kmem top") I wanted this to be the wayy it worked on my system (being set to run as root) because I'm the only one who uses my computer. You might not want it to work that way. I received an email from the person who ported 'top' to NS, and he indicated that the original author used 'getuid' rather that 'geteuid' so it only sees who invokes the command, not what the command is set to execute as. He has been working on a fix (which seems to work). TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles, swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ, and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: robin@pswtech.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: New Intel serial port drivers Date: 28 Feb 1996 02:08:00 GMT Organization: PSW Technologies Message-ID: <4h0de0$17b9@digdug.pswtech.com> References: <4gvq1q$n7q@ra.cc.wwu.edu> michael@fortress.cs.wwu.edu (Michael F. DeMan) wrote: : Hey, : A couple weeks ago I upgraded NS3.3 to the new serial port drivers : since the old ones didn't go ver 19,200. Since then I've had a variety of : problems using PPP. It seems that when the port is released it there is a : bug, and trying to re-open the port causes the ENTIRE system to crash! : Has anybody else had similar problems or used these new drivers? I've been using them with _zero_ problems. I have a P133, Triton, 16550UART motherboard, and I have been running them at 57600bps without a crash or other problems. (I downloaded a 90+MB file the other day, and it seemed to go OK and at 31000bps overall speed (on a 28.8 modem, downloading a binary file)...) Perhaps you don't have it setup correctly. Do you have the old serialports driver removed? Do you have the "PortServer" driver installed? Are you using the old "serial mouse" driver? All of these things might affect the performance of the new serial driver. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666
From: Bobbernickle (Randy Vose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: RE: Weird CHOWN behavior Date: 28 Feb 1996 07:35:18 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4h10jm$qb3@cloner3.netcom.com> Thanks to everyone who responded to my post about CHOWN. Apparently this was a problem with having Workspace mount a disk volume instead of mounting it in /etc/fstab. Thanks again! -- Randy V. rvose@ix.netcom.com
From: Bobbernickle (Randy Vose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <4gub25$1g6@cloner3.netcom.com> Control: cancel <4gub25$1g6@cloner3.netcom.com> Date: 28 Feb 1996 07:34:19 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4h10hr$qb3@cloner3.netcom.com>
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: pscat: trouble reading .ct file Date: 5 Mar 1996 07:47:49 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <4hhd5l$ea8@papoose.quick.com> References: <1996Feb27.214312.18443@glv.cen.encompass.com> Keywords: pscat In article <1996Feb27.214312.18443@glv.cen.encompass.com>, David Deininger <deininger@encmail.encompass.com > wrote: > >Hello, I'm running NS3.3 Intel, and I can't print manpages (using man -t) >because pscat returns the error "trouble reading .ct file." Any >suggestions as to what might be causing this and how I could fix it? > >Email responses would be appreciated, because my news feed is flaky and I >don't want to miss any answers to my question. This problem is caused by incorrect troff font files in the transcript subsystem. The font files are binary and are big-endian. The solution is to remove the old troff font information, and rebuild the fonts on Intel. The script to rebuild the fonts is present but will need one change in order to run. /usr/lib/transcript/troff.font contains the troff Font directories, and font map files for building the fonts, it also has a script for building new font directories. This script does not work because the configuration script fragment it includes is wrong. Here is how to fix it. as root. 1. cd /usr/lib/transcript/troff.font 2. edit the file 'conf' and change the value of the variable PSLIBDIR from PSLIBDIR=/Net/delux/BinCache. . . . to PSLIBDIR=/usr/lib/transcript 3. The addtroff.sh cannot build new font directories unless the old ones are removed so you will have to move the old ones out of the way. Since only font map files and font directories begin with capital letters the easiest approach is: a. mkdir safe b. mv [A-Z]* safe/ c. mv safe/*.map . 4. Now rebuild the fonts. addtroff.sh takes 2 arguments, the family name and the map file name. Since you are already in the csh as root just do: foreach map (*.map) set font = `basename $map .map` ./addtroff.sh $font $map end Now pscat will be able to find and use the font files. p.s. I emailed a copy this post to David as well, but thought other's might find the answer useful. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Parallel driver problem on Intel Date: 29 Feb 1996 08:37:07 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4h3ojj$bq@turbocat.snafu.de> References: <4gt50c$25m$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Rod Gilchrist <103127.17@CompuServe.COM> wrote: (...) > Is there a parallel port driver out there with source? look at ftp://buran.fb10.fu-berlin.de/pub/next/????/ParallelPortDriver1.1ax.tar.gz It is the best I have seen yet for NSfI. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Emacs Keys? Date: 29 Feb 1996 08:46:55 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4h3p5v$bq@turbocat.snafu.de> References: <4gnthg$2hj@turbocat.snafu.de> <4h1ead$6fu@oops.ip.lu> kay@cordis.lu (Kay Schulz) wrote: > In <4gnthg$2hj@turbocat.snafu.de> David Wetzel wrote: > > Hello! > > > > From the online help: > > > > Alternate-< Moves to beginning of text > > Alternate-> Moves to end of text > > > I forgot > Emacs AlternateIsMeta No > Set that to YES I want to use the EmacsKeys in any app. I found out wich keys I have to use on NeXTDeutsch: [ALT] + [SHIFT] + [,] (Moves to beginning of text) [ALT] + [SHIFT] + [.] Really user-friendly ;-) _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: The Preferences bug in 3.3 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 12:40:06 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960305123820.11545H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Some time ago there was a long thread about Preferences.app 3.3 having some sort of memory leak. Did the patch fix this problem? It was causing some serious swapfile growth. Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles, swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ, and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: Žruss@physical27.chem.ufl.edu (russ bowers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: HP Hangs Date: 7 Mar 1996 02:00:44 GMT Organization: University of Florida Message-ID: <4hlg0c$pgn@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Hi, I forgot to mention one thing about the HP-712 Hanging. David Knight wrote: >Check your /usr/adm/messages file looking for SCSI disk errors. We >have found problems with the HP official 2GB Quantum drives not >returning SCSI requests for several minutes or not at all. This can >give the appearance of a hung system. Thanks for the advice, but there are no messages written to /usr/adm/messages. That was the first thing I checked. The system really hangs, with no warning, explanation or error messages. The only way to bring the system down is to yank the plug, literally. Seems ridiculous to me. Thanks, Russ Bowers
From: Žruss@physical27.chem.ufl.edu (russ bowers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP 712/60 Hangs Date: 7 Mar 1996 01:57:55 GMT Organization: University of Florida Message-ID: <4hlfr3$pgn@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <4gnqkq$2e7@turbocat.snafu.de> <4gq5ne$31k@moe.cc.emory.edu> <4gvkre$er@turbocat.snafu.de> Hi, HP-712 Hangs -- UPDATE My HP-712/60 continues to hang, sometime 3-4 times a day. The problem seems to be worse during times of heavy traffic, i.e. during the day. Someone suggested that it might be a cabling problem. >We had a BNC-connector that was badly crimped. That caused hangs on >the whole net if there was heavy traffic on the bus. There is at least one indication that this is not the problem in my particular case; my NeXTStation Motorola never hangs and it is on the same stretch of cable and none of the other machines on this local loop have a problem with hanging. True, there is no substitute for checking the cable with an analyzer, but why should the other machines be more robust against this sort of problem? That makes me think its the ethernet driver, or possibly a hardware problem. NeXT suggests that the problem will be solved if I buy a bridge to filter out extraneous packets. I got a price on a workgroup bridge which is available from a company called Black Box. Its a $1000 item , but I finally broke down and order it. I'll keep you posted on what happens. I'll be very irritated if I buy this device and then a few months later NeXT comes out with a fix. I have presented NeXT with this situation and I'm still waiting for the response. It's all very, very annoying. My students have been trying to run calculations on this machine and they're fed up. Russ Bowers p.s. NeXT, are you there? HELP!
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: The Preferences bug in 3.3 Date: 6 Mar 1996 21:20:35 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4hkvj3$li3@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960305123820.11545H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: > > Some time ago there was a long thread about Preferences.app 3.3 > having some sort of memory leak. Did the patch fix this problem? > It was causing some serious swapfile growth. I'm pretty sure the patch didn't fix the problem, because the patch didn't change anything in Preferences. You can reduce the problem by changing the clock-face you're showing for Preferences. The more often the clock updates, the faster your swapspace is going to grow. Or, you can just quit preferences (or more likely, don't autolaunch it). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: falk@planck.pha.jhu.edu (Adam Falk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP 712/60 Hangs Date: 7 Mar 1996 13:23:05 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA Message-ID: <4hmnvp$lvb@news.jhu.edu> References: <4gnqkq$2e7@turbocat.snafu.de> <4gq5ne$31k@moe.cc.emory.edu> <4gvkre$er@turbocat.snafu.de> <4hlfr3$pgn@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> In-Reply-To: <4hlfr3$pgn@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> To all those who have been posting messages about their HP machines hanging... I have been running NeXTStep on an HP 712/80 for a year and a half, and have found a number of ways in which precisely this problem occurs: 1) I used to have the machine on the local thin-net ethernet network. It would hang (no choice but to unplug) about once a day, sometimes in the middle of the night when no one was doing anything on it. (I don't know if there was a correlation with heavy traffic on the ethernet.) I was going crazy, even had the guys from HP out to switch the processor. Thinking it might have something to do with the network, I switched to the UTP network in the building instead. No problem since then. 2) If I put a Mac disk in the drive, do a disk write, and then select "Eject Disk" prematurely, the machine will hang in the same way. "Prematurely" certainly means while the disk is writing, but also it can mean ten seconds after the write appears to be done. This doesn't happen if I put a NeXT formatted disk in the drive (haven't tried PC). 3) If I send too many big files to the printer (parallel port) at once, it hangs. It seems like there are some weaknesses in that part of the software where the operating system has to talk to the "outside world"; it easily gets "confused". I've just come to live with unplugging the machine every other week or so. Sigh. Adam Falk -- Adam F. Falk Assistant Professor e-mail: falk@planck.pha.jhu.edu Dept. of Physics and Astronomy www: http://fermi.pha.jhu.edu/ The Johns Hopkins University phone: (410) 516-7817 3400 N. Charles St., Baltimore MD 21218 fax: (410) 516-7239
From: Jeff_Sickel@sickel.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP Hangs Date: 8 Mar 1996 01:37:29 GMT Organization: Charm.Net Baltimore Internet Access, Hon (410) 558-3900 Message-ID: <4ho30p$t0p@canton.charm.net> References: <4hlg0c$pgn@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Žruss@physical27.chem.ufl.edu (russ bowers) wrote: > >Hi, > >I forgot to mention one thing about the HP-712 Hanging. > [stuff munged] For those posting about the HP hanging, have you upgraded to NEXTSTEP 3.3 Patch 1? I use to get occasional hangs, but haven't seen one for several months. Maybe I'm not using my 712/80 enough, but the Intel box sitting next to it hangs (SCSI death) at least once every two days, usually more. jas
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Jerky Logitech PS/2 Mouse with latest drivers Date: 8 Mar 1996 00:09:03 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <4hntqv$fki@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> The NextAnswers Overview (1803_PS-2-Style_Mouse_Driver_Overview) says: >KNOWN PROBLEMS > > The 3.3 mouse driver exhibits jerky mouse behavior when used with a > Microsoft PS/2 mouse. Currently, the only workaround is to use a > different type of PS/2 mouse. But I went and got a new Logitech MousePort MouseMan (the new model with finger indentations all over it) for $$$$, and it is also jerky! (with v3.32 driver) It also works as a serial mouse, and it is much smoother (but somewhat slower to respond). What gives? I thought PS/2 was the preferred mouse for NS/Intel. Is anyone else using the PS/2 mouse port on the ASUS P55TP4XEG motherboard? -- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@House.ORG or croehrig@sns.cs.ubc.ca) Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP 712/60 Hangs Date: 8 Mar 1996 00:19:14 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <4hnue2$flg@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <4hlfr3$pgn@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> In article <4hlfr3$pgn@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> russ@physical27.chem.ufl.edu (russ bowers) writes: > My HP-712/60 continues to hang, sometime 3-4 times a day. The problem > seems to be worse during times of heavy traffic, i.e. during the day. Our 712/60 (NS3.2) was hanging every few days too for a while. We tracked it down to be a hung SCSI bus --- the activity light on the harddisk went solidly on (you have to open the case to see the light). I could reproduce it always by maxing out SCSI disk activity (say a bunch of tar cf - / >/dev/null), and doing a "Check for Disks". The resulting SCSI inquiry would hang the drive (a Seagate ST31200N). We solved it by replacing the drive with a ST31230N and have had no problems since). I should say that the same ST31200 has no problems in a NeXTstation or an Intel machine. >[...] I'll be very irritated if I buy this device and then a >few months later NeXT comes out with a fix. I wouldn't worry too much about that. :-) -- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@House.ORG or croehrig@sns.cs.ubc.ca) Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com Subject: Postscript code errors saving "Chosen Printer/Include Fonts" Message-ID: <1996Mar9.074353.2333@cmich.slip.netcom.com> Originator: news@cmich.slip.netcom.com Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 07:43:53 GMT Hello: Is anyone out there a Postscript guru? I don't know if this is a verifyable "bug," so if I would be better off posting in another group, let me know. However, the problem seems to lie with postscript code generated by the NeXT OS, so here it goes... I am trying to save a postscript file for the Agfa Accuset SF film output printer, but the service bureau reports errors in the postscript file and, indeed, the files cause problems when I attempt to open them in the Preview app. I have narrowed down the problem to the code which sets a custom page size (actually, any Agfa specific feature causes an error), but I am unable to figure out how to fix the problem. I am using the print panel's save feature with the "Chosen Printer/ Include Fonts" option. I select the Agfa Accuset SF printer, have the appropriate PPD file in the appropriate /LocalLibrary folder and have used PrintManager to "create" the printer before running the print/save panel. The error occurs no matter what application I use to make the save, so it seems the problem lies in the way NeXT is generating the Agfa specific postscript code. The code in question is: %%NXBeginCustomPageSize: 684 900 684 900 % Width and height of paper dup statusdict /mediawidth get exec lt {exch 0 0 0} {0 0 1} ifelse exch pop statusdict begin setpageparams end %%NXEndCustomPageSize The console errors when viewed with Preview are as follows: Preview[280]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 252a0 Preview[280]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: get ]%% Preview[280]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 252a0 Preview[280]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: get ]%% Preview[280]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 252a0 Preview[280]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: lt ]%% Mar 8 22:48:06 cmich Preview[280]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 252a0 Preview[280]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: ifelse ]%% Preview[280]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 252a0 Preview[280]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: setpageparams ]%% Preview[280]: DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext 252a0, data 462052 Preview[280]: DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext 252a0, data 462068 Preview[280]: DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext 252a0, data 462084 Preview[280]: DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext 252a0, data 462100 Preview[280]: DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext 252a0, data 462116 Preview[280]: DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext 252a0, data 462132 Preview[280]: DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext 252a0, data 462148 When I delete the above Agfa specific lines, the file prints fine with the exception that the default page size (letter) is used, so the entire image is not printed. The PPD file for the Agfa printer lists the following for setting custom page sizes: *% Custom Page Sizes *CustomPageSize True: "exch pop statusdict begin setpageparams end" *ParamCustomPageSize Width: 1 points 0 1008 *ParamCustomPageSize Height: 2 points 0 1944 *ParamCustomPageSize WidthOffset/Margins: 3 points 0 1008 *ParamCustomPageSize HeightOffset: 4 points 0 0 *ParamCustomPageSize Orientation: 5 int 0 1 After several unsuccessful attempts, I asked the service bureau to provide me with a working test file that will print, using the same custom page size as I am trying to use (9.5" X 12.5"). They generated a file on their Mac that used the following code to set the custom page size: %%BeginFeature: *CustomPageSize True 900 720 36 0 0 exch pop statusdict begin setpageparams end %%EndFeature This file WILL open correctly in Preview under the "use simple mode" open option. (Though I have noticed that Preview doesn't resize it's window to use a custom page size, but rather selects the closest "supported" size. I guess it's a limitation of the program). However, when I replace the NeXT generated postscript code for setting the page size with the "working" lines above, my file will STILL generate errors and not open. If anyone out there has any suggestions or information, I would greatly appreciate hearing them. I need to get a number of files out to film and there seems to be just this one glitch in my way. Thank you very much in advance for any ideas. - Chuck -------------------------------------------------------------- chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com NeXT Mail and MIME Mail gladly accepted --------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Edit.app and floppy disks Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:45:54 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960308124453.11468E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Edit.app 3.2, under NS 3.2, NeXT hardware - Start Edit.app - Open an existing file on a floppy disk or create a new one. - Save the file. - Close the window. - Try to 'umount' the disk ==>> at the command line - (here's the BUG) at this point, I get a message saying "Device busy". EXPLANATION: Edit.app (perhaps correctly) remembers the last directory used (in this case, the floppy disk) so that when you do 'File/New' it opens the untitled document in that directory. If the last directory was the floppy disk, then WM considers the floppy disk "busy". It would seem to me that a better solution (or at least an option) would be that if Edit.app tries to use that floppy disk directory and it is no longer mounted, Edit.app could just use $HOME WORKAROUND: 1) Use the WM's Disk->Eject, produces the same error message, but then it ejects the disk anyway. 2) Open a new Edit window and save it to another directory, or quit Edit.app WHY THIS BUGS ME: I wrote a script to make a listing of the floppy disk and then eject it (from the command-line). This bug fouls up my script. -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles, swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ, and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: WM disk options fixed disk Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:06:53 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960308130541.11468I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Workspace -> preferences -> Disk Options -> "When a fixed disk is encountered" -> place icon on shelf if there is room What counts as a "fixed disk"? Why doesn't my swapdisk show up? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles, swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ, and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: dos_unmount: msdnode references still exist Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:18:35 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311151647.10579A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I had a floppy disk yesterday (DOS formatted) which would not eject and gave this as the reason: dos_unmount: msdnode references still exist Does anyone know what this means and what I should have done? It caused a 'fsck' on reboot. Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles, swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ, and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Postscript code errors saving "Chosen Printer/Include Fonts" Date: 11 Mar 1996 22:41:52 GMT Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content Message-ID: <4i2a7g$nsc@miwok.nbn.com> References: <1996Mar9.074353.2333@cmich.slip.netcom.com> In <1996Mar9.074353.2333@cmich.slip.netcom.com> chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com wrote: > Hello: > > Is anyone out there a Postscript guru? I don't know if this is a > verifyable "bug," so if I would be better off posting in another group, > let me know. However, the problem seems to lie with postscript code > generated by the NeXT OS, so here it goes... > Hi There: We have a lot of experience in working between NEXTSTEP and Mac publishing environments. You might want to have a look at this document from our web site: http://www.gscorp.com/NS_Mac_Files_FAQ.html Generally speaking, if there's anyway of brining a "native" file rather than a PS file, you're in better shape. For example, Virtuoso files can be opened as is in Freehand. Otherwise, there are several service bureaus connected on the Internet to whom you can send NeXTMail with your documents. One of the differences between the PS interpretors in an imagesetter's RIP, and Dispaly PostSript is that DPS doesn't support the "setapageparam" operator. This is why you see errors when you try to view PS files with custom page sizes in Preview. Tailor ignores them. One thing you might try is to print tabloid. You'll waste a little film, but film is cheaper then your sanity. ;-) Hope this helps, John john@gscorp.com http://www.gscorp.com -- ¢
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Why doesn't rwhod report load average? Message-ID: <Do4uzn.KIz@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 02:30:58 GMT Why doesn't rwhod report the load average? Whenever I do an ruptime, the load is always 0.00. If I do an uptime or w, I get the real load. I'm running a dialin server, and I'd like to be able to sort hosts based on loads, so that I can log the user into the host with the lowest load. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: Matija Exel <exel@lag.ensieg.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: problems with the HeaderViewer under v3.3 Date: 12 Mar 1996 17:38:11 GMT Organization: E.N.S.I.E.G./Service Informatique et L.A.G. Message-ID: <4i4cq3$3so@naiad.grenet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, sorry for this duplicate post: i added the "subject" line i found the following problems with the HeaderViewer under v3.3 (which didn't exist under 3.2): -- when searching within appkit.h>Application i get the file for ActionCell!! (i solved this one by reloading the Application.rtf file from my 3.2 release -- what else to do??) -- when searching for method headers within a class file (say "altImage" for ButtonCell class) the browser DOES NOT position the file on the method header but on the first(?) occurrence of the searched string ANYWHERE within the file's text. This is NOT very helpful!! My 3.3 release was installed by my distributor; i also checked that the 3.3Patch1 (from NextAnswers 2066) had been installed. I found no information about this bug within KBNS of Raf Schietekat neither... any cues? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Matija Exel, E.N.S.I.E.G., Service Informatique et L.A.G., Tel : 76 82 71 12 Fax: 76 82 63 88 e-mail : exel@lag.ensieg.fr (NO NextMail please) -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: Matija Exel <exel@lag.ensieg.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: (no subject) Date: 12 Mar 1996 17:33:58 GMT Organization: E.N.S.I.E.G./Service Informatique et L.A.G. Message-ID: <4i4ci6$3so@naiad.grenet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, i found the following problems with the HeaderViewer under v3.3 (which didn't exist under 3.2): -- when searching within appkit.h>Application i get the file for ActionCell!! (i solved this one by reloading the Application.rtf file from my 3.2 release -- what else to do??) -- when searching for method headers within a class file (say "altImage" for ButtonCell class) the browser DOES NOT position the file on the method header but on the first(?) occurrence of the searched string ANYWHERE within the file's text. This is NOT very helpful!! My 3.3 release was installed by my distributor; i also checked that the 3.3Patch1 (from NextAnswers 2066) had been installed. I found no information about this bug within KBNS of Raf Schietekat neither... any cues? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Matija Exel, E.N.S.I.E.G., Service Informatique et L.A.G., Tel : 76 82 71 12 Fax: 76 82 63 88 e-mail : exel@lag.ensieg.fr (NO NextMail please) -----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <maurice@tlpnl.tlp.nl> From: Maurice Le Rutte <maurice@tlpnl.tlp.nl> Message-ID: <9603131342.AA09050@tlpnl.tlp.nl> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:42:17 +0100 Subject: Matija Exel's problem Matija Exel <exel@lag.ensieg.fr>: > i found the following problems with the HeaderViewer > under v3.3 (which didn't exist under 3.2): > -- when searching within appkit.h>Application i get > the file for ActionCell!! (i solved this one by > reloading the Application.rtf file from my 3.2 release > -- what else to do??) [SNIP] Next made a small mistake on their release. The file for Application was the same as for ActionCell. I had this 'problem' when I needed some delegate messages that I don't use very often and I couldn't exactly remember them. After mailing Next supplied us with a correct version which we copied onto the wrong file. It is not a bug of HeaderView or Librarian (or any other application), it was just a mistake of NeXT. Maurice le Rutte _____________________________________________________________ | | |OpenStep Software Engineering Shodan Jiu-Jitsu | |NeXT/MIME/ASCII mail welcome Suo sibi gladio hunc iugulo* | |____________________________________________________________| * I will beat him with his own weapons.
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Mail.app 3.3 weirdness! Date: 14 Mar 1996 07:03:00 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <4i8gb4$37r@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I was relieved to find, after two years of intermittent but disturbing flakiness in the old Mail.app (corrupted button graphics, disappearing sliders, crashing windows, and all sorts of things that should never happen to a NEXTSTEP app, much less one of theirs!), that the new Mail.app that shipped with NS 3.3 seems solid as a rock, in addition to having many useful new features and flourishes. Well, almost solid. I've just noticed some unbelievably weird behavior, involving subtle mailbox corruption, and dating back for months to when I first upgraded to 3.3. Here is the symptom. I use an awk script to append a different random signature to each of my outgoing letters, and the typical signature looks something like this (-- and ++ have been added as terminators): -- The first cup of coffee |===================================================== recapitulates phylogeny. | Joshua W Burton (708)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu -- K. Ruskin |===================================================== ++ In my saved outgoing mail, it looks _fine_ when I look at it with Mail.app, but if I look directly at the underlying mbox file with Edit, I see that what is actually stored is: -- The first cup of coffee = |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D recapitulates phylogeny. | Joshua W Burton (708)677-3902 = jburton@nwu.edu -- K. Ruskin = |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D ++ If I grep for '=3D' in my mailboxes, I find to my horror that this has happened to about one out of twenty outgoing letters, for months. The other nineteen out of twenty look just the same when viewed in either app. It gets weirder. If I change the mbox so that it looks like the original signature, and then open it in Mail.app, I find that it now looks something like this (I think this may be eaten by the newsfeed, but we'll see): -- The first cup of coffee |õõõõõõõõõõõõõõõõõõrecapitulates phylogeny. | Joshua W Burton (708)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu -- K. Ruskin |õõõõõõõõõõõõõõõõõõ ++ If those high-bit glyphs were scrambled, they look like o-tilde from here. Anyway, to summarize: (1) Most outgoing signatures, with long lines of ===='s, are fine when viewed in Mail.app or as flatfiles. (2) About one out of twenty is corrupted as a flatfile by =3D=3D=3D=3D garbage, but looks normal in Mail.app (3) Fixing these broken ones in the flatfiles makes them look corrupted in a different way (high-bit glyphs) when viewed in Mail.app (4) There is no discernable difference (as seen in the flatfiles, even when examined byte-by-byte) between signatures of type (1) and ones that are corrupted in the (2)/(3) fashion. If there is any sort of deterministic cause, it must lie elsewhere than in the mboxes themselves---corrupted indices, perhaps?? Anyway, I am at a total loss to explain this, and as I keep old email in perpetuity I would prefer to get to the bottom of it as quickly as possible---wholesale data corruption terrifies me. Does anyone have the most wild-eyed clue as to what might be going on? ``Bosnia is free at |========================================================= last!'' said Tomasz | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu acerbically. |=========================================================
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: WM crash, error 38001 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:42:22 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960314093922.11363E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII WM[183]: Unknown error code 38001 in NXReportError Anyone know what caused this? TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles, swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ, and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Losing physical memory pages...? Date: 17 Mar 1996 23:35:58 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4ii7ku$n7a@news.its.com> Could someone explain why the value of total_pages from the code segment: vm_statistics_data_t vm_stats; int result, total_pages; result=vm_statistics(task_self(), &vm_stats); if (result != KERN_SUCCESS) mach_error("An error calling vm_statistics()!", result); else { total_pages = vm_stats.free_count + vm_stats.active_count + vm_stats.inactive_count + vm_stats.wire_count; ...slowly decreases? Total pages starts out at 3940 for a 32 MB system, and I've seen it decrease by 1 or 2 every so often (like 1 page per week or so). -Chuck Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 18 Mar 1996 05:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4iirgu$bqa@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: sbr@chinook.halcyon.com (Stephen Rondeau) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cc optimization (-O2) bug with for loop Date: 19 Mar 1996 07:13:44 GMT Organization: AugmenTek Message-ID: <4ilmr8$81f@news1.halcyon.com> A bug was found in the -O2 optimization level today. I can't spend the time to create a simplified reproducible test case, but it concerns a for loop iteration variable being incremented *before* the last statement in the loop is executed, rather than after. Compiling with -O works fine. This bug shows up on the -arch m68k generated code -- it works fine with -arch i386. Has anybody else seen this? Stephen Rondeau
From: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Sudden WorkSpace self-exit bug? Date: 19 Mar 1996 00:53:18 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <4il0hu$1ih@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Hello to all, I saw a very strange thing on my NeXTCube (NS3.3). I was not working with the computer (it was running a screen saver) but I was logged in my account. Suddenly, the computer logged out of my account. I was able to reproduce that two times. Here is what I saw in /usr/adm/messages: Mar 18 19:09:38 socrate Terminal[3855]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 40b50, data -102 Mar 18 19:09:38 socrate Terminal[3855]: Exiting due to Window Server death Mar 18 19:09:38 socrate Preferences[3851]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext 528a0, data 0 Mar 18 19:09:38 socrate Preferences[3851]: Exiting due to Window Server death Mar 18 19:09:38 socrate Mathematica[3888]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 79374, data -102 Mar 18 19:09:38 socrate Mathematica[3888]: Exiting due to Window Server death Mar 18 19:09:38 socrate WM[3850]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext b2b10, data -102 Mar 18 19:09:38 socrate Fiend[3852]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext bcc90, data -102 Mar 18 19:09:38 socrate Fiend[3852]: Exiting due to Window Server death Mar 18 19:09:53 socrate loginwindow[3837]: Workspace exited (ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0). Mar 18 19:09:54 socrate loginwindow[3837]: dps_err_write Mar 18 19:09:54 socrate last message repeated 6 times Mar 18 19:09:54 socrate loginwindow[3837]: dps_err_write Mar 18 19:09:54 socrate last message repeated 10 times Mar 18 19:09:54 socrate loginwindow[3837]: dps_err_write Mar 18 19:09:54 socrate last message repeated 2 times Mar 18 19:09:54 socrate loginwindow[3837]: exiting due to excessive DPS errors Mar 18 19:09:57 socrate mach: NeXTdimension server running (8196) Anybody knows what caused this. I suspect the screensaver. Anybody has problems running backspace screen saver modules through Fiend.app. I often get hangups and other strange things like this one. Any suggestion to avoid this??? Francois Magnan -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: mckelvey@suite.com (James_W_McKelvey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: gprof problems Date: 20 Mar 1996 01:00:39 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4inlbn$kki@news.onramp.net> I've been running -pg/gprof to analyze a large executable. Today gprof fails with hundreds of messages like: bad arc from 0x1798f8 to 0xffcb, count 719 (ignored). [nllookup] binary search fails for address 0xc4e4 and there's almost nothing in the resulting printout. It worked fine yesterday. Relinking doesn't help. Does anyone have any idea what might be going wrong? This is on white hardware with 3.3 patch1. -- The only thing necessary for the triumph of good is for evil men to do nothing. mckelvey@suite.com
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: strange console errors Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:16:57 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960321101208.12422H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know it isn't a very descriptive 'subject' but I had a number of these error messages when I awoke this morning and saw the console. If it had happened once or twice I wouldn't worry about it. But these happened repeatedly (except for the once about the NX fonts) Any clues? Mar 20 23:48:11 charisma syslog: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler.^M Mar 20 23:48:32 charisma last message repeated 15 times [ this will reoccur again later ] Mar 21 00:10:13 charisma syslog: Couldn't find default font for default NXSystemFonts Mar 21 00:10:13 charisma syslog: Couldn't find default font for default NXBoldSystemFonts [ why was it looking? ] Mar 21 00:13:36 charisma syslog: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler. Mar 21 00:13:36 charisma syslog: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler. Mar 21 00:13:43 charisma last message repeated 2 times Mar 21 00:15:52 charisma syslog: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler. Mar 21 00:17:09 charisma last message repeated 13 times Mar 21 00:21:41 charisma syslog: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler. Mar 21 00:21:58 charisma last message repeated 9 times Mar 21 00:22:02 charisma syslog: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler. Deroff: path-to-man-pages/zshmisc.1: No such file or directory Mar 21 00:23:20 charisma last message repeated 27 times Mar 21 00:25:31 charisma syslog: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler. Mar 21 00:26:08 charisma last message repeated 77 times Mar 21 00:26:09 charisma syslog: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler. Mar 21 00:27:11 charisma last message repeated 97 times Mar 21 00:29:50 charisma syslog: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler. Mar 21 00:29:54 charisma last message repeated 3 times Mar 21 00:30:23 charisma syslog: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler. Mar 21 00:30:23 charisma syslog: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler. thanks! TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles, swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ, and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: hhoff@flop.lb.bawue.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Subject: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash Message-ID: <Doq85w.nr@flop.lb.bawue.de> Sender: news@flop.lb.bawue.de Organization: home Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:25:08 GMT Hi, I want to mail a Create document to a friend, and each time I drag the document into the Compose window, Mail.app silently dies. This happens in both the MIME and NeXTmail mode, so I dug deeper and got: (PGPMail is just the stock 3.3 Mail.app with all the goody bundles inside) (gdb) r Starting program: /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/PGPMail # Starting to load from NetInfo @0 # Finished loading from NetInfo @16 [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/cryptor.bundle] Reading symbols from loaded file...done. [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/EnhanceMail.bundle] Reading symbols from loaded file...done. [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/ExtraCommands.bundle] Reading symbols from loaded file...done. [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/MessageQuoter.bundle] Reading symbols from loaded file...done. [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/Resend.bundle] Reading symbols from loaded file...done. [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/SunMessage.bundle] Reading symbols from loaded file...done. [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/Urlifier.bundle] Reading symbols from loaded file...done. objc: NXRTFD: does not recognize selector -stream Program received signal 6, IOT trap 0x5006ec0 in kill () (gdb) Anybody knows what could be causing this? The .create document looks OK to me (and loads into Create just fine): flop>ll ~/Documents/Hackers.create/ total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 hhoff other 3428 Aug 12 1995 document.create flop> Most grateful for any clues.. Holger -- ___ /\__\ Holger Hoffstätte net: hhoff@cube.de (MIME, NeXT, PGP) \/__/ Cube Informationssysteme GmbH vox: (++49)0711-90669-0 (or -11) [kju:b] Stuttgart, Germany fax: (++49)0711-90669-16 (or -33)
From: Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash Date: 24 Mar 1996 14:03:59 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <Doq85w.nr@flop.lb.bawue.de> In <Doq85w.nr@flop.lb.bawue.de> Holger Hoffstaette wrote: > (PGPMail is just the stock 3.3 Mail.app with all the goody bundles > inside) > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/ExtraCommands.bundle] > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/MessageQuoter.bundle] > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/Resend.bundle] > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/SunMessage.bundle] Forgive me, but what are all those bundles ? I thought I knew all the Mail.app bundles, both the publicly available ones and the ones only in private circulation. But of most of those I haven't even heard about. > Anybody knows what could be causing this? Well, the first thing to find out is whether this is a Mail.app bug or one in one of the bundles. Try sending the message again with some of the bundles disabled until you know. Carl Edman
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:29:10 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1996Mar24.182910.4735@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> In article <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes: > In <Doq85w.nr@flop.lb.bawue.de> Holger Hoffstaette wrote: > > (PGPMail is just the stock 3.3 Mail.app with all the goody bundles > > inside) > > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/ExtraCommands.bundle] > > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/MessageQuoter.bundle] > > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/Resend.bundle] > > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/SunMessage.bundle] > > Forgive me, but what are all those bundles ? I thought I knew all the > Mail.app bundles, both the publicly available ones and the ones only in > private circulation. But of most of those I haven't even heard about. http://www.next.com/~lennart Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: tm8025a@american.edu (Torrey McMahon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash Date: 24 Mar 1996 19:15:59 GMT Organization: American University, Washington DC Message-ID: <4j471g$1dv@paladin.american.edu> References: <Doq85w.nr@flop.lb.bawue.de> <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> In <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Carl Edman wrote: > In <Doq85w.nr@flop.lb.bawue.de> Holger Hoffstaette wrote: > > (PGPMail is just the stock 3.3 Mail.app with all the goody bundles > > inside) > > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/ExtraCommands.bundle] > > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/MessageQuoter.bundle] > > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/Resend.bundle] > > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/SunMessage.bundle] > > Forgive me, but what are all those bundles ? I thought I knew all the > Mail.app bundles, both the publicly available ones and the ones only in > private circulation. But of most of those I haven't even heard about. > Yeah, those look like something I could use, especially the SunMessage bundle. Please pass word to me if and when anyone finds out what they are/do. -- Torrey McMahon American University School of Communication
From: Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash Date: 24 Mar 1996 23:05:28 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <4j4kfo$sh6@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <1996Mar24.182910.4735@seer.demon.co.uk> In <1996Mar24.182910.4735@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch wrote: > In article <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Carl Edman > <cedman@princeton.edu> writes: > > Forgive me, but what are all those bundles ? I thought I knew all the > > Mail.app bundles, both the publicly available ones and the ones only in > > private circulation. But of most of those I haven't even heard about. > > http://www.next.com/~lennart Thanks for the notice ! Some cute stuff, but even if I say so myself in the areas where there is an overlap with EnhanceMail (like Quoting), it does the job in a more flexible and integrated manner. And that was even before EnhanceMail 1.2 which adds transparent full-text indices, automatic retrieval and caching of user images and much other neat stuff (currently in beta test). Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: hhoff@flop.lb.bawue.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Subject: Re: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash Message-ID: <Dosqys.3yq@flop.lb.bawue.de> Sender: news@flop.lb.bawue.de Organization: home References: <Doq85w.nr@flop.lb.bawue.de> <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:06:28 GMT Carl Edman wrote: > In <Doq85w.nr@flop.lb.bawue.de> Holger Hoffstaette wrote: > > (PGPMail is just the stock 3.3 Mail.app with all the goody bundles > > inside) > > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/ExtraCommands.bundle] > > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/MessageQuoter.bundle] > > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/Resend.bundle] > > [Mail: Loading /LocalApps/Networking/PGPMail.app/SunMessage.bundle] > > Forgive me, but what are all those bundles ? I thought I knew all the > Mail.app bundles, both the publicly available ones and the ones only in > private circulation. But of most of those I haven't even heard about. These are publicly available bundles by Lennart Lovstrand; they recently appeared somewhere on the archives, if I remember correctly. > > Anybody knows what could be causing this? > > Well, the first thing to find out is whether this is a Mail.app bug or one in > one of the bundles. Try sending the message again with some of the bundles > disabled until you know. Without any bundles at all, same .create Document: (gdb) r Starting program: /NextApps/Mail.app/Mail objc: NXRTFD: does not recognize selector -stream Program received signal 6, IOT trap 0x5006ec0 in kill () (gdb) So, it seems to be something related to Mail.app only. It has nothing to do with the particular docuent; it happens with others, too. Weird, huh? Holger -- ___ /\__\ Holger Hoffstätte net: hhoff@cube.de (MIME, NeXT, PGP) \/__/ Cube Informationssysteme GmbH vox: (++49)0711-90669-0 (or -11) [kju:b] Stuttgart, Germany fax: (++49)0711-90669-16 (or -33)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NeXTMail can cause security holes? Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:08:15 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960325100513.27784B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I received this in a mail message responding to my post about decoding NeXTMail at the commandline: "There is a security hole in almost all NeXT systems. A file, which can be written by any user of the system, can be created that will ultimately cause a root process to run any program of the user's choosing. This file can be silently created by an incautious reader of NeXTmail. safetar and decode together *should* prevent it. Maybe." 'safetar' and 'decode' are in the Mail.app wrapper. Can someone explain to me if this is true, and if so, why I've never heard of it? What is this file? Where is it located? TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info' >>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash Date: 25 Mar 1996 22:52:37 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <4j783l$12li@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> In article <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes: .. >Forgive me, but what are all those bundles ? I thought I knew all the >Mail.app bundles, both the publicly available ones and the ones only in >private circulation. But of most of those I haven't even heard about. .. They're on the Peanuts archive: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/bundles/MailBundles.README ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/bundles/MailBundles.NIHS.b. tar.gz BTW, in the README for EnhanceMail you mention that you know of three bundles, but I could only find yours and Urlifier. What is the third one? Here is the MailBundles.README: ------------ UNSUPPORTED PLUG-INS FOR MAIL 3.3 ================================= Lennart Lovstrand, 96-01-15 Put these .bundle files in your ~/Library/Mail directory and Mail.app under NEXTSTEP 3.3 will automatically load them the next time you run it. The bundles include: * Urlifier.bundle Marks World-Wide Web URLs in received messages with a little icon. Double click on it to go to the corresponding page using OmniWeb. This 1.7 version of the Urlifier is about 10-20 x faster than before and includes several bug fixes. Uses these defaults: URLService The name of the service used to open the WWW page, by default "OmniWeb/Open URL". URLPunctuation A set of special characters that normally won't be part of any URL, by default "\".,;?!:>)". URLPrefixes A list of valid URL "types" that always start a URL, by default: "http:ftp:gopher:mailto:mid:cid:news: nntp:prospero:telnet:rlogin:tn3270:wais". * MessageQuoter.bundle Does "> " style quoting in replies, etc. Uses these defaults: QuoteTitle Title to preceed quote message, by default nothing. QuotePrefix Prefix to be inserted before each line, by default "> ". QuoteHeaders Boolean controlling if the message's headers should be quoted, by default YES if QuoteTitle is empty. QuoteLineLength The max length for each quoted line including prefix. By default the same value as Mail's normal line length. * Resend.bundle Adds a Resend... option to the Message menu that allows you to resend a message (with Resent- headers) to someone. A resent message differs from a forwarded message in that it retains the original headers (including its From:, To:, and Subject: fields), and you can't add any text to it yourself. * SunMessage.bundle This bundle will automatically decode Sun Solaris MailTool messages with attachments. * ExtraCommands.bundle Adds a couple of additional menu commands, such as Show Raw Message to display the undecoded message, Add Attachment... to bring up an Open Panel for adding attachments to a message under composition, and Incorporate Mail for manually checking mailboxes for Incoming_Mail files (mostly for debugging).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <flexus!rfschtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 21:35:36 +0100 From: Raf Schietekat <flexus!rfschtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be> Message-ID: <9603252035.AA14168@flexus> Subject: problems with the HeaderViewer under v3.3 Cc: Matija Exel <exel@lag.ensieg.fr> Matija Exel <exel@lag.ensieg.fr> wrote: > I found no information about this bug within KBNS of Raf > Schietekat neither... Matija, if you used KBNS.33.1 (the latest available at the time, you don't indicate which version you used), you would have been able to find it in category /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/GeneralRef and subcategory 02_ApplicationKit/Classes/Application.rtf (Currently, 33.2 should be in submissions or in 33.1's stead.) Just looking for Application.rtf would have done the trick. It's interesting what made you not find this... I mean, I occasionally wonder whether and what references to add elsewhere. Oh well. Thanks for using KBNS, Raf Schietekat, RfSchtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be (NeXTmail), Flanders, Belgium If I don't answer: my mail relay can't handle !, % or .uucp, I think *** The year 2000 will be the last year of the 20th century. *** PS: Sorry for the delay, I'm working through a backlog of news.
From: peisch@news.cfa.org (Peter Eisch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Q: HP 3.2 Panics repeatedly, help? Date: 25 Mar 1996 20:42:08 -0600 Organization: Communicating for America Network Services Message-ID: <4j7li0$3i0@swifty.cfa.org> Can you help me? I'm getting this message logged by syslog about a second before the host locks up (no auto-reboot either) with: ... hostname mach: zone "kernel map entries" rempty The box is a 712/80 with 32MB primary and a Micropolis 1GB (HP's part) internal. It typically sits at the loginwindow performing TCP services. The same software is running on other 712's that I manage and can do so for weeks on end. Any answers or reasonable guesses appreciated. I haven't been around these parts much recently. Is it reasonable for NeXT proffer an expert answer in an amazingly quick time if the price were right? If so, what's the best method to approach them with? peter -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peisch@cans.com (Peter Eisch) peter@etude.com
From: peisch@news.cfa.org (Peter Eisch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Q: HP 3.2 Panics repeatedly, help? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 25 Mar 1996 20:50:20 -0600 Organization: Communicating for America Network Services Message-ID: <4j7m1c$3tv@swifty.cfa.org> References: <4j7li0$3i0@swifty.cfa.org> Following up myself...sorry...but I (peisch@news.cfa.org) wrote: : Can you help me? I'm getting this message logged by syslog about a : second before the host locks up (no auto-reboot either) with: : ... hostname mach: zone "kernel map entries" rempty Here are the two events from today. Mar 25 19:08:34 host mach: Expanding zone pmap Mar 25 19:20:03 host mach: Expanding zone pmap Mar 25 20:11:59 host mach: NeXT Mach 3.2: Tue Jul 12 18:26:52 PDT 1994; root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-150.0.0.55.obj~2/RELEASE_HPPA ... and then... Mar 25 20:28:33 ny mach: Expanding zone pmap Mar 25 21:11:12 ny mach: Expanding zone pmap Mar 25 21:22:02 ny mach: Expanding zone kernel map entries Mar 25 21:26:07 ny mach: zone "kernel map entries" rempty Mar 25 21:37:18 ny mach: NeXT Mach 3.2: Tue Jul 12 18:26:52 PDT 1994; root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-150.0.0.55.obj~2/RELEASE_HPPA Mar 25 21:37:18 ny mach: physical memory = 64.00 megabytes. ... Does this help at all? -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peisch@cans.com (Peter Eisch) peter@etude.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: hhoff@flop.lb.bawue.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Subject: Re: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash Message-ID: <Doss6t.45D@flop.lb.bawue.de> Sender: news@flop.lb.bawue.de Organization: home References: <Doq85w.nr@flop.lb.bawue.de> <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <Dosqys.3yq@flop.lb.bawue.de> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:32:53 GMT Just a quick follow-up.. I wrote: > .. > So, it seems to be something related to Mail.app only. It has nothing to do > with the particular docuent; it happens with others, too. 'With others' meant only .create documents, so I figured something could be wrong with Create's document registration as well. Removing Create from the WM app search path, updating the services, putting Create back in and again updating the services solved the problem! I can now drag the .create file into Mail's Compose window. > Weird, huh? Indeed.. Anyway, the problem is solved. Holger -- ___ /\__\ Holger Hoffstätte net: hhoff@cube.de (MIME, NeXT, PGP) \/__/ Cube Informationssysteme GmbH vox: (++49)0711-90669-0 (or -11) [kju:b] Stuttgart, Germany fax: (++49)0711-90669-16 (or -33)
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Q: HP 3.2 Panics repeatedly, help? Date: 26 Mar 1996 17:40:55 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4j9a77$7ml@news.its.com> References: <4j7li0$3i0@swifty.cfa.org> peisch@news.cfa.org (Peter Eisch) wrote: [ ... ] > I haven't been around these parts much recently. Is it reasonable for > NeXT proffer an expert answer in an amazingly quick time if the price > were right? If so, what's the best method to approach them with? Yes. You can pay some $20-30K per year for "Premium Technical Support", or you can pay by the question. Look on http://www.next.com for info about technical support; email is ask-next@next.com. Your mileage with their support may vary-- some people have said that they're very happy with NeXT's support; others have done less well. -Chuck Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Bundles of bundles (was Re: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:45:12 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960326103752.8773D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <4j783l$12li@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Peter Karbaliotis <peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca> In-Reply-To: <4j783l$12li@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Followups-To: comp.sys.next.software On 25 Mar 1996, Peter Karbaliotis wrote: > BTW, in the README for EnhanceMail you mention that you know of three > bundles, but I could only find yours and Urlifier. What is the third one? I believe the 3rd one he was referring to was cryptor.bundle, at peanuts and mirrors, like this one: ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Mail/bundles/CryptorBundle.1.2.NIH.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Mail/bundles/CryptorBundle.1.2.README Did I just miss the announcement about all the other bundles being released? TjL BTW, this is no longer a thread about bugs ;-) Followups to csn-software (if I have set the header correctly... what is the proper header? Followups-To or Follow-ups-to or FolloupsTo or?) -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info' >>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
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Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ============= ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions (formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu) ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! Written by: Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com) Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net) Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <flexus!rfschtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 17:30:22 +0100 From: Raf Schietekat <flexus!rfschtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be> Message-ID: <9603271630.AA06295@flexus> Subject: Re: problems with the HeaderViewer under v3.3 I wrote on 1996-03-25: > Just looking for Application.rtf would have done the > trick. Sorry, I hadn't seen Matija's second problem when I sent this. I've just pasted that posting into KBNS.33.3.rtf (33.2 now available from next-ftp.peak.org, though I still have to announce it), but I should have corrected my posting also. I don't know whether NeXT is working on this problem (referring to Matija's follow-up e-mail to me). I've included a workaround for the Application.rtf problem in KBNS.33.2.rtf. Raf Schietekat, RfSchtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be (NeXTmail), Flanders, Belgium If I don't answer: my mail relay can't handle !, % or .uucp, I think *** The year 2000 will be the last year of the 20th century. ***
From: allan@zen.ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Q: HP 3.2 Panics repeatedly, help? Date: 28 Mar 1996 16:59:28 GMT Organization: ALI Message-ID: <4jeghg$c0f@cetus.ali.bc.ca> References: <4j7li0$3i0@swifty.cfa.org> <4j7m1c$3tv@swifty.cfa.org> In <4j7m1c$3tv@swifty.cfa.org> Peter Eisch wrote: > Can you help me? I'm getting this message logged by syslog about a > second before the host locks up (no auto-reboot either) with: >... > Mar 25 19:08:34 host mach: Expanding zone pmap > Mar 25 19:20:03 host mach: Expanding zone pmap > Mar 25 20:11:59 host mach: NeXT Mach 3.2: Tue Jul 12 18:26:52 PDT 1994; > root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-150.0.0.55.obj~2/RELEASE_HPPA I encountered similar entries and behaviour when I had a bug in a program which called free() for some memory which it got from a low-level mach message. It should have been calling vm_deallocate(), and thus was causing the kernel to slowly leak memory over time. Hope this helps. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome *
From: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Page Fault: so what ? Date: 30 Mar 1996 14:33:59 GMT Organization: Verein der Informatikstudierenden an der ETH Zuerich Message-ID: <4jjgon$90o@elna.ethz.ch> Hi altogether, I just had this nasty kernel panic (but which finished to shut down cleanly, meaning no fsck) but lost quite some work, so I'm somewhat upset. Now, having had all kind of weird traps over the years, I wonder if there is somebody who can tell, what the numbers mean ? Here are the kernel-msgs: Mar 30 13:29:01 vis-next mach: unexpected kernel page fault failure Mar 30 13:29:01 vis-next mach: trap: type 0x410 fcode 6 rw 1 faultaddr 0x3a0000 Mar 30 13:29:01 vis-next mach: trap: pc 0x3a0000 sp 0x3fff8d8 sr 0x2014 Mar 30 13:29:01 vis-next mach: trap: cpu 0 th 0x10219710 proc 0x101da230 pid 9357 pcb 0x1021a080 Mar 30 13:29:01 vis-next mach: traceback: fp 0x110b2ee4 Mar 30 13:29:01 vis-next mach: called from pc 0x0404941e fp 0x110b2f24 4-args 00001100 110b2f9e 10205620 00000042 Mar 30 13:29:01 vis-next mach: called from pc 0x04030c5c fp 0x110b2f54 4-args 10205624 110b2f9e 00000001 00000000 Mar 30 13:29:01 vis-next mach: called from pc 0x04024572 fp 0x110b2f84 4-args 1021c4d0 00000001 110b2f9e 1020c10c If I'm right, there was a page-failure (whatever that means, probabely disapearing page, or unref mem) in the kernel-context of this process. According to pc & fault-addr, the kernel jumped somwhere, where there is no vmem mapped, well, that's a pretty bad idea :-), seems like some 'trash' on the stack when jumping back or so... But without the docs you can't really tell, can you ? -daniel -- Daniel G. Kluge - President VIS / http://www.vis.inf.ethz.ch/~daniel/ E-Mail: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome) [ Pager 152-99-54082 ] VIS: ETH-Zentrum IFW B29 CH-8092 Zuerich Tel 01/632-7212 Fax 01/632-1172 Oeffnungszeiten waehrend dem Semester : Mo - Fr : 1215 - 1300
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 1 Apr 1996 05:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4jnoou$2or@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 150+ ISV company pages - 350+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ============= ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions (formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu) ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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From: Žruss@physical27.chem.ufl.edu (russ bowers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: HP 712 HANGS - no more Date: 3 Apr 1996 20:32:29 GMT Organization: University of Florida Message-ID: <4jun8t$eqk@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> You may recall reading an earlier post from me describing how our HP-712/60 would keep hanging for no apparent reason. NeXT tech support and several others suggested that a network bridge be placed between the HP and the rest of the net. There is apparently a major bug in the NeXTStep ethernet driver, even in V. 3.3 including patch. I purchased a "workgroup minibridge" from Black Box Company for about $800. The hanging completely stopped. I really appreciate the help I got from this bulletin board. Thanks.
From: Raf Schietekat <flexus!rfschtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: SUBMISSION: KBNS (``Known Bugs in NeXT Software'') edition (33.2). Date: 4 Apr 1996 17:30:28 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Sender: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <4k1ii4$g2i@digifix.digifix.com> This is to let you know about the new edition 33.2 of KBNS (``Known Bugs in NeXT Software''), the *only* public and aspiring-to-be-comprehensive database of problems and bugs (with workarounds, where known!) in all of NeXT's software products (not just NEXTSTEP itself), to be used together with NeXT's NeXTanswers. It's the third edition mentioning NEXTSTEP 3.3 at all, and there are a few things about OpenStep and EOF as well. ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/documents/KBNS.33.2.README.rtf ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/documents/KBNS.33.2.rtf.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/documents/KBNS.verification.32.1.tar So fetch the document, use it, and send me neat&concise reports about whatever is still missing (a new problem, a good workaround), about changes to applicability ranges, about a verification you did, if you volunteer to referee items in a particular category, about any mistakes, or a note about what you think of KBNS (if you think it is no good, I won't know unless you tell me, but please be specific; if you've been able to benefit from it, I'll be very happy to hear from you!). *** If an existing KBNS entry describes a problem you are having, do send a copy to Bug_NeXT! Perhaps effectiveness is in the numbers... *** KBNS is totally dependent on your cooperation. I see my role as an administrator and moderator for compiling the collective knowledge of the NeXT software community (about bugs, of course). It's up to YOU! (The KBNS file itself is rather hefty (do an ls and/or fetch the README first). If anyone knows a free program to distribute patches to RTF files (GNU diff/patch or any other line-based algorithm won't do), please tell me.) Raf Schietekat, RfSchtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be (NeXTmail), Flanders, Belgium If I don't answer: my mail relay can't handle !, % or .uucp, I think
From: bbum@friday.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP 712 HANGS - no more Date: 5 Apr 1996 02:36:22 GMT Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc. Message-ID: <4k20v6$peq@chinx4.thoughtport.net> References: <4jun8t$eqk@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Hmmm... has anyone encountered an HP 712 that simply Stops Taking Keyboard And/Or Mouse Input. The one on my desk does this wonderful little trick about once or twice a day; requiring a reboot to make it go again... b.bum # HP 712 HANGS - no more # by russ bowers, University of Florida # You may recall reading an earlier post from me describing how # our HP-712/60 would keep hanging for no apparent reason. NeXT # tech support and several others suggested that a network bridge # be placed between the HP and the rest of the net. There is # apparently a major bug in the NeXTStep ethernet driver, even in # V. 3.3 including patch. # # I purchased a "workgroup minibridge" from Black Box Company for # about $800. The hanging completely stopped. I really appreciate # the help I got from this bulletin board. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru> Message-ID: <9604051359.AA00693@cnext.crec.mipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Aleksey Sudakov <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 17:59:07 +0400 Subject: NSCalendarDate saving and loading in ASCII problem. Hi, I've got a problem with NSCalendarDate. First time I came across this problem in WebObjects, but as I understand it now it's a FoundationKit problem for I've got it in EOF as well. The problem is that NSCalendarDate description method generate bad NSStrings (at least [[[theDate description] dataUsingEncoding:NSASCIIStringEncoding] writeToFile:tableFile atomically:NO] produce something like this 1995-04-04 01:49:35 +0400 Look there is no " around this string). And if someone tries to read it back and generate NSCalendarDate with [[NSCalendarDate alloc] initWithString:stringValue] he would get parse error. Could someone suggest any descent workarounds? Thanks Aleksey Sudakov 1A-1 Kerchenskaya Street Moscow 113303,Russia. ______________________________________________________________________ Home: (095)121-6100 + 3-45, (095)121-0561 + 3-45 EMail: zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru (NeXTMail & MIME are OK) WWW: http://www.crec.mipt.ru/~zander/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Subject: Re: NSCalendarDate prob? Or our bug? Message-ID: <DpFyAD.I2@hurka.UUCP> Keywords: NSCalendarDate bug Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka) Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.) References: <4k3fre$2dt@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 12:49:24 GMT In article <4k3fre$2dt@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> uhendjx@meaddata.com (John Hendry) writes: > Has anyone run into a problem with NSCalendarDates, when trying > to create a new date which has no spaces in the format? > > When I try to create a new date using > > [NSCalendarDate dateWithString:@"19960101" calendarFormat:@"%Y%m%d"] > > an exception is raised during an NSString method. > > If there are spaces in the date & format > (eg: @"1996 01 01" + @"%Y %m %d") there's no problem. > > Has anyone run into this before? Or shall I go cruft spelunking? I ran into this just a few weeks ago. It looks to me that implementation of %Y does not read four-characters-integer (%4d) as it should, but whole number (%d). Here is example I prepared: #import <stdio.h> #import <foundation/foundation.h> int main() { NSCalendarDate *date; date=[NSCalendarDate dateWithString:@"951205" calendarFormat:@"%y%m%d"]; NSLog(@"%@\n",date); date=[NSCalendarDate dateWithString:@"1995 1205" calendarFormat:@"%Y%m%d"]; NSLog(@"%@\n",date); date=[NSCalendarDate dateWithString:@"11111 1205" calendarFormat:@"%Y%m%d"]; NSLog(@"%@\n",date); date=[NSCalendarDate dateWithString:@"19951205" calendarFormat:@"%Y%m%d"]; return 0; } I just had not time to report it to bug_next@next.com nor KBNS. :-( Best regards, -- Tomas Hurka tom@hukatronic.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
From: ckane@next.com (Christopher Kane) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NSCalendarDate prob? Or our bug? Date: 7 Apr 1996 19:22:00 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <4k94ko$d40@news.next.com> References: <DpFyAD.I2@hurka.UUCP> In article <DpFyAD.I2@hurka.UUCP> tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) writes: > In article <4k3fre$2dt@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> uhendjx@meaddata.com > (John Hendry) writes: > > Has anyone run into a problem with NSCalendarDates, when trying > > to create a new date which has no spaces in the format? > > > > When I try to create a new date using > > [NSCalendarDate dateWithString:@"19960101" calendarFormat:@"%Y%m%d"] > > an exception is raised during an NSString method. > > > > If there are spaces in the date & format > > (eg: @"1996 01 01" + @"%Y %m %d") there's no problem. > > > > Has anyone run into this before? Or shall I go cruft spelunking? > I ran into this just a few weeks ago. It looks to me that > implementation of %Y does not read four-characters-integer > (%4d) as it should, but whole > number (%d). Here is example I prepared: > > #import <stdio.h> > #import <foundation/foundation.h> > > int main() > { NSCalendarDate *date; > > date=[NSCalendarDate dateWithString:@"951205" > calendarFormat:@"%y%m%d"]; > NSLog(@"%@\n",date); > date=[NSCalendarDate dateWithString:@"1995 1205" > calendarFormat:@"%Y%m%d"]; > NSLog(@"%@\n",date); > date=[NSCalendarDate dateWithString:@"11111 1205" > calendarFormat:@"%Y%m%d"]; > NSLog(@"%@\n",date); > date=[NSCalendarDate dateWithString:@"19951205" > calendarFormat:@"%Y%m%d"]; > return 0; > } This was a problem in the 3.3/EOF 1.1 Foundation that was fixed for 4.0. Here is the output from the example, modified slightly, under 4.0: $ cc -Wall test.m -framework Foundation $ a.out Apr 7 12:20:06 a.out[18260] 951205 (year = 1995 month = 12 day = 5) Apr 7 12:20:06 a.out[18260] 19951205 (year = 1995 month = 12 day = 5) Apr 7 12:20:06 a.out[18260] 11110112 (year = 1111 month = 1 day = 12) Apr 7 12:20:06 a.out[18260] 19951205 (year = 1995 month = 12 day = 5) $ Christopher Kane Foundation Technology
From: sdonovan@odin.cair.du.edu (Steven Donovan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Instalation Problem Date: 8 Apr 1996 03:37:44 GMT Organization: University of Denver Message-ID: <4ka1m8$fsn@hermes.cair.du.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am attempting to install NeXTStep for Intel. After the initial instalation, when rebooting to configure, it hangs when trying to configure the EIDE driver. I have tried the suggestions from NeXTAnswers in the "Overcoming Instalation Hurdles," but with no success. The only thing that stands out as an obvious possibility for the problem is that the hard drive that I have is 850mb and NeXTStep thinks it is 812mb. I read that it could cause problems if your bios doesn't know the correct size of the drive, but it seems to know the size (and has the correct cylinders, heads, sectors). I don't know why this discrepency exists, or how to correct it. Any info/suggestion are greatly appreciated. -- A closed mouth gathers no foot. sdonovan@diana.cair.du.edu
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From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Instalation Problem Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 10:19:41 -0700 Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd. Message-ID: <316A9C2D.7EEF@mpr.ca> References: <4ka1m8$fsn@hermes.cair.du.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steven Donovan wrote: > I read that it could cause problems if your bios doesn't know the > correct size of the drive, but it seems to know the size (and has > the correct cylinders, heads, sectors). I don't know why this > discrepency exists, or how to correct it. > You will want to check that your motherboard supports LBA Mode. It must support this if you want to use NS with an IDE drive over 504MB. -- Scott Mewett MPR Teltech Ltd. Burnaby, B.C. mewett@mpr.ca ASCII Only mewett@van.ark.com NeXTMail OK
From: peisch@news.cfa.org (Peter Eisch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HP 712 HANGS - no more Date: 11 Apr 1996 19:31:34 -0500 Organization: Communicating for America Network Services Message-ID: <4kk896$2ng@swifty.cfa.org> References: <4jun8t$eqk@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Do you have more details about how the box would hang? Was it something to do with anything on the ethernet in particular? peter russ bowers (Žruss@physical27.chem.ufl.edu) wrote: : You may recall reading an earlier post from me describing how our : HP-712/60 would keep hanging for no apparent reason. NeXT tech : support and several others suggested that a network bridge be placed : between the HP and the rest of the net. There is apparently a major : bug in the NeXTStep ethernet driver, even in V. 3.3 including patch. : I purchased a "workgroup minibridge" from Black Box Company for about : $800. The hanging completely stopped. I really appreciate the help : I got from this bulletin board. Thanks. -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peisch@cans.com (Peter Eisch) peter@etude.com
From: Žruss@physical27.chem.ufl.edu (russ bowers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: HP 712 Hangs (no more) Date: 12 Apr 1996 23:16:58 GMT Organization: University of Florida Message-ID: <4kmo9a$g97@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Do you have more details about how the box would hang? Was it something to do with anything on the ethernet in particular? > >peter >russ bowers (Žruss@physical27.chem.ufl.edu) wrote: >: You may recall reading an earlier post from me describing how our >: HP-712/60 would keep hanging for no apparent reason. NeXT tech >: support and several others suggested that a network bridge be placed >: between the HP and the rest of the net. There is apparently a major >: bug in the NeXTStep ethernet driver, even in V. 3.3 including patch. >: I purchased a "workgroup minibridge" from Black Box Company for about >: $800. The hanging completely stopped. I really appreciate the help >: I got from this bulletin board. Thanks. My system was locking up about 2x or more per day. I put up with this bullshit for about 1 year. The system would not lock up if it was unplugged from the net. I don't know if there is a local problem having to do with derelict packets circulating on our local net. The system was apparently panicking but didn't have time to produce the panic dialog box. There must be some sort of memory leak in the ethernet driver. Once again, the only solution to this ugly problem is to insert a bridge between your system and the rest of the net. Once I did this, the system stays up for weeks at a time. Its too bad the only solution is so expensive. Hope this helps, and good luck, Russ Bowers
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.alt.binaries.next From: martin@jeramy.westfalen.de Subject: this "interleaced-mode" is nearly killing me !!! Message-ID: <DpuE49.1K7@jeramy.westfalen.de> Sender: news@jeramy.westfalen.de (news) Organization: JerySoft Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 07:57:45 GMT Hi you out there, well I have a Hercules Dynamite VL Pro VGA-grphic card installed in my PC ... I am using NSi 3.3 and the only driver Ive got by now is that on, that gives you exactly 1024 x 768 RGB by 45 Hz INTERLEACED !!! I think its revision b by a modified NS 3.2 driver (from Ricardo J .Parada and John Ruggentaler) So, pleas, tell me that there is a newer on without this interleace in a high color standard !!! Where can I get it from ?!? -- ... M.Roggon (martin@jeramy.westfalen.de)
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 15 Apr 1996 04:15:12 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4ksigg$hur@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 150+ ISV company pages - 350+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. 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From: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Using -unmounting:ok: (I can't get any results!) Date: 15 Apr 1996 19:35:02 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <4ku8d6$3a3@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> From: Raf Schietekat <flexus!rfschtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be> To: Eskandar Ensafi <esky@cs.ucla.edu> [Reposted with corrections and RTF to ASCII conversion] Raf Schietekat, RfSchtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be (NeXTmail), Flanders, Belgium *** The year 2000 will be the last year of the 20th century. *** Bug Report: KBNS.33.3.007_o3.213.3o ---------- -[Application unmounting:ok:] (and hence -app:unmounting:) never invoked Description: ----------- There are three Application instance methods to monitor mounting and unmounting volumes: -mounted: and -unmounted:, which are called after [[Application workspace] beginListeningForDeviceStatusChanges]; and -unmounting:ok:, which is supposedly called if and only if the application is launched from the Workspace Manager. Apparently the former two work as described, but the latter method is never called. (There are three corresponding delegate methods called from the main method, see the documentation; the former two are called correctly, the latter was not tested.) How to Verify: ------------- Use the following in an Application subclass. Don't declare these methods, then you'll have an indication that the AppKit declares them. #ifdef TEST_KBNS_33_3_007 -app:sender mounted:(const char *)fullPath{ // from mounted: NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"app:mounted:``%s''",NULL,NULL,NULL,fullPath); return 0; // should actually test whether super understands, then relay // note: this is not achievable using just -respondsTo:! } -app:sender unmounted:(const char *)fullPath{ // from app:unmounted NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"app:unmounted:``%s''",NULL,NULL,NULL,fullPath); return 0; // should actually test whether super understands, then relay // note: this is not achievable using just -respondsTo:! } -(int)app:sender unmounting:(const char *)fullPath{ // from unmounting:ok: NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"app:unmounting:``%s''",NULL,NULL,NULL,fullPath); return [super app:sender unmounting:fullPath]; } -(int)mounted:(const char *)fullPath{ // after beginListeningForDeviceStatusChanges NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"mounted:``%s''",NULL,NULL,NULL,fullPath); return [super mounted:fullPath]; } -(int)unmounted:(const char *)fullPath{ // after beginListeningForDeviceStatusChanges NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"unmounted:``%s''",NULL,NULL,NULL,fullPath); return [super unmounted:fullPath]; } -(int)unmounting:(const char *)fullPath ok:(int *)flag{ // if and only if application launched from Workspace Manager NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"unmounting:``%s'' ok:",NULL,NULL,NULL,fullPath); return [super unmounting:fullPath ok:flag]; } #endif Urgency: ------- Does no immediate damage, not immediately obvious, partial workaround available. Confirmed: --------- Eskandar_Ensafi (o3.3o, reported), Raf_Schietekat (o3.2o) Details: ------- Eskandar_Ensafi tested with floppy disk on Intel and optical disk on NeXTcube. Raf_Schietekat tested with floppy disk and CD-ROM on NeXTstation. Workaround: ---------- Don't use -unmounting:ok:/-app:unmounting:, use -unmounted:/-app:unmounted: instead (that's like using a <Did< method instead of a <Will< method). You can prevent a file system from being unmounted by keeping a file descriptor open to something on that file system as long as required. But then of course you also can't present a panel to the user to ask permission to unmount, and the user may be confused by what application it is that is preventing him/her from unmounting that file system, so this is not very friendly. Cure: (for NeXT) ---- Cure -unmounting:ok:/-app:unmounting:. Don't assume it is not required anymore. Report History: -------------- Eskandar_Ensafi reported this to c.s.n.programmer on 1996-04-10. Comment: ------- The AppKit Release Notes specific to 3.0 (as viewed on 3.2) say ``The following Speaker/Listener messages have been obsoleted and replaced with improved API described below under "Interapplication Image Dragging" and "Workspace Protocol". '', mentioning -unmounting:ok:. But there is no indication elsewhere about this. So maybe NeXT just stopped supporting this method in 3.0? But it is certainly not obsoleted by the new ones (as described in the KBNS Workaround for this item)! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eskandar Ensafi Object-Oriented Software Engineer University of California, Los Angeles Department of Biomathematics esky@cs.ucla.edu (ASCII, MIME, NeXT) School of Medicine http://www.cs.ucla.edu/csd-lanai/fweb/esky ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- "Was ich kann und was ich konnte Weiss ich gar nicht mehr Gib mir wieder etwas schones Zieh mich aus dem Meer" -- Marian (The Sisters Of Mercy)
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NS 3.3 /bin/sh needed [desperately] Date: 15 Apr 1996 17:49:48 -0400 Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <4kug9s$69s@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu> I think I found a bug in /bin/sh in NS 3.2. Could you please e-mail me a /bin/sh for NS 3.3 so I could compare them? Thanks. The bug appears after using functions (see below): the $@ arguments disappear. Please respond by e-mail. Thanks. Best regards...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-5310 (Office/Answering Device) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
#!/bin/sh #!/home/nevai/local/bin/ksh #!/usr/local/bin/bash # #FATAL BUG in /bin/sh for NeXTStep 3.2 on a CUBE with 25 MHz MC680x0 (68040) # #by Paul Nevai (nevai@math.ohio-state.edu) on April 14, 1996 #$Id$ # #Mach kernel version: #NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 21:57:41 PDT 1993 #root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K set "1 2" 3 SEPARATOR="##############################" get_test () { echo INSIDE get_test echo "\$0=\"$0\"" echo "\$@=\"$@\"" echo "\$1=\"$1\"" echo "\$2=\"$2\"" #grep grep $0 echo INSIDE get_test } echo $SEPARATOR echo BEFORE get_test echo "\$0=\"$0\"" echo "\$@=\"$@\"" echo "\$1=\"$1\"" echo "\$2=\"$2\"" echo BEFORE get_test echo $SEPARATOR get_test #$@ echo $SEPARATOR echo AFTER get_test echo "\$0=\"$0\"" echo "\$@=\"$@\"" echo "\$1=\"$1\"" echo "\$2=\"$2\"" echo AFTER get_test echo $SEPARATOR exit
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From: Robert Gibson Jacobs <rjacobs@leland.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Sound works except from audio CDs Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:17:56 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Sender: rjacobs@elaine48.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.92.960419171723.6514B-100000@elaine48.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am running NS 3.3 on a P100. My motherboard has the Vibra 16 built-in. I can get normal system sounds through my speakers and some applications, but when audio-CD's run I can only get sound through headphones. If anyone knows a fix I'd appreciate it. Post to the newsgroup and/or email to: rjacobs@stokes.stanford.edu
From: gblock@homer.alpha.net (Greg Block) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Sound works except from audio CDs Date: 22 Apr 1996 02:39:17 GMT Organization: Alpha.net -- Milwaukee, WI Message-ID: <4lergl$l8j@homer.alpha.net> References: <Pine.SUN.3.92.960419171723.6514B-100000@elaine48.Stanford.EDU> Robert Gibson Jacobs (rjacobs@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote: | I am running NS 3.3 on a P100. My motherboard has the Vibra 16 built-in. | I can get normal system sounds through my speakers and some applications, | but when audio-CD's run I can only get sound through headphones. If | anyone knows a fix I'd appreciate it. Post to the newsgroup and/or email | to: | rjacobs@stokes.stanford.edu Upgrading to newer drivers fixed this for me. So I'm assuming it'll work for you too. :) Greg -- ): ): ): ): Have you overdosed on frownies today? Why NOT!?! :( :( :( :( ): "One if by land, two if by sea" - Paul Revere, encryption 1775 :( ): Fight government censorship. Greg.Block@perspex.com :( ): ): ): ): ): ): ): ): ): ): ): ): :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( Wubba :(
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From: Kaelber <aseldpsm@ilk.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Problems with Sound Blaster 16 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 13:30:43 +0200 Organization: Alcatel SEL Abt. DP/SM Message-ID: <317CBF63.3DC2@ilk.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To whom it may concern, I'm running nextstep on an Intel machine and I'm having problems recording signals with the Sound Blaster 16. Playing them is no Problem. No matter which driver I use (8 bit, 16 bit, 16 bit pnp etc.) I can't record a signal. I've tried both inputs (line-in and mic-in). If I send a signal into one of the inputs I can here it through the speaker out output, but the machine will not record it! I would be very thankful if you could help me. Bruce Dolby
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Problems with Sound Blaster 16 Date: 24 Apr 1996 17:29:45 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4lloe9$51h@news.next.com> References: <317CBF63.3DC2@ilk.de> Kaelber <aseldpsm@ilk.de> writes > To whom it may concern, > > I'm running nextstep on an Intel machine and I'm having problems > recording signals with the Sound Blaster 16. Playing them is no > Problem. > No matter which driver I use (8 bit, 16 bit, 16 bit pnp etc.) I > can't record a signal. I've tried both inputs (line-in and mic-in). > If I send a signal into one of the inputs I can here it through the > speaker out output, but the machine will not record it! > > I would be very thankful if you could help me. > > Bruce Dolby What application are you using to record with? Sound.app, for instance, has a well-known tendency to not record. The command-line tool sndrecord works quite a bit better. -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Problems with Sound Blaster 16 In-Reply-To: Mark_Bessey@next.com's message of 24 Apr 1996 17:29:45 GMT Message-ID: <u41lojlng83.fsf@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <317CBF63.3DC2@ilk.de> <4lloe9$51h@news.next.com> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 03:18:52 GMT I can't get either a SoundBlaster 16 or 32 PnP to work under NS 3.3 with the latest 3.33 driver. What needs to be done to get it to work? Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: WebObjects doesn't run. Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 12:53:47 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960425124247.26837D-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I'm posting this to the newsgroup in the hope to get an answer prior to the NeXTanswers team and even because it's maybe a simple problem. I'm running NS 3.3 on Intel. I installed WebObjcts 1.0 and WebServer as well as the Foundation User Patch (NeXTasnwer 2117). I did a standard installation which means that everything went to /NextLibrary/. I use a single user machine, configured to run PPP connections as needed (this means that I added some hosts with hostconfig and added addtiional IPs as well as additional nameserver, but bring up the ppp link only by hand if I need it). Everything runs fine after starting the httpd as advised. I even can get output of e.g. test-cgi etc. However running WebObjects the _first_ time causes OmniWeb to load forever. Every access after this first run causes an immediate reply like: Did not receive response from application. So I can'r run WebObjects nor can I run any WO example. Any hints? Best regards, Boerny. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Problems with Sound Blaster 16 Date: 25 Apr 1996 16:28:31 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <4lo97f$akg@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <u41lojlng83.fsf@world.std.com> In article <u41lojlng83.fsf@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) writes: > I can't get either a SoundBlaster 16 or 32 PnP to work under NS 3.3 with > the latest 3.33 driver. What needs to be done to get it to work? What is your PC configuration and the symptoms? I have intermittent problems with my SB 16 "Value Edition" (sound output unexpectedly stops until another application resets the device). My NS 3.3 system is an ASUS P55TP4XEG mainboard with ASUS PCI-SC200 SCSI (ncr8xx), PS/2 mouse. I'm using all the latest drivers. -- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@House.ORG or croehrig@sns.cs.ubc.ca) Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: WebObjects doesn't run. Date: 27 Apr 1996 01:17:12 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Message-ID: <4lrsio$iu8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960425124247.26837D-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes: I think it conflict with PPP in your system (It's a bug). Try uninstall your PPP and it should work. --KAI-- >Hello, >I'm posting this to the newsgroup in the hope to get an answer prior to >the NeXTanswers team and even because it's maybe a simple problem. >I'm running NS 3.3 on Intel. I installed WebObjcts 1.0 and WebServer as >well as the Foundation User Patch (NeXTasnwer 2117). I did a standard >installation which means that everything went to /NextLibrary/. I use a >single user machine, configured to run PPP connections as needed (this >means that I added some hosts with hostconfig and added addtiional IPs as >well as additional nameserver, but bring up the ppp link only by hand if >I need it). >Everything runs fine after starting the httpd as advised. I even can get >output of e.g. test-cgi etc. However running WebObjects the _first_ time >causes OmniWeb to load forever. Every access after this first run causes >an immediate reply like: Did not receive response from application. >So I can'r run WebObjects nor can I run any WO example. >Any hints? >Best regards, > Boerny. >-- >Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) >scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ >scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ -- email: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca url: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: mdriftme@mail.wsu.edu (Marc J. Driftmeyer) Subject: Re: Problems with Sound Blaster 16 Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Message-ID: <DqHp5o.1wF@serval.net.wsu.edu> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 05:02:43 GMT References: <317CBF63.3DC2@ilk.de> Organization: Washington State University The nextanswer @www.next.com I believe informs people of its inability to record signals ( or something like that) . Kaelber <aseldpsm@ilk.de> wrote: >To whom it may concern, >I'm running nextstep on an Intel machine and I'm having problems >recording signals with the Sound Blaster 16. Playing them is no >Problem. >No matter which driver I use (8 bit, 16 bit, 16 bit pnp etc.) I >can't record a signal. I've tried both inputs (line-in and mic-in). >If I send a signal into one of the inputs I can here it through the >speaker out output, but the machine will not record it! >I would be very thankful if you could help me. >Bruce Dolby Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer The Personal Computing Center Information Technologies Bldg. Rm#2088 Washington State University mdriftme@mail.wsu.edu http://www.wsu.edu:8001/~mdriftme (509)335-0518 (work) (509)335-0563 (fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Problems with Sound Blaster 16 In-Reply-To: mdriftme@mail.wsu.edu's message of Sat, 27 Apr 1996 05:02:43 GMT Message-ID: <u413f5nhpj8.fsf@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <317CBF63.3DC2@ilk.de> <DqHp5o.1wF@serval.net.wsu.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:55:39 GMT If you go into DOS/Windows and set the recording level, it should work fine when you boot back into NEXTSTEP. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
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From: dicosmo@dahlia.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HPPA PANICS after 3.3pl1 upgrade Date: 30 Apr 1996 00:04:35 GMT Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure Distribution: world Message-ID: <DICOSMO.96Apr30020435@dahlia.ens.fr> After upgrading my HP 712/60 from 3.2 to 3.3 user and installing the user patch, while retaining 3.2 developer and all the old EOF packages with Foundation Patch and the like, the machine has become extremely instable: I keep getting kernel panics under the most unrelated conditions, and the only bit of information in the mini monitor is the message trap_hpmc Anybody has experienced something similar ? any idea of the origin or possible solutions? Any kind soul from NEXT willing to say what the message means? Is it a hardware failure or some subtle kernel problem? Thanx in advance you for your attention and help! P.S.: please send a copy of your answer/message to me by mail too... if possible -- Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>, http://www.ens.fr/users/dicosmo/index.html LIENS Ecole Normale Superieure 45, Rue d'Ulm 75005 Paris FRANCE
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NeXT c++ Date: 1 May 1996 01:21:50 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <4m6ebe$mg2@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Hi, I think I've found one bug in NeXT's c++. If I compile the following code via % cc -o test test.cc -lg++, NeXT will produce the result Hello 1 Hello 2 Hello World. However, if I compile the code by GCC % g++ -o test test.cc I get the result Hello World. Hello 1 Hello 2 ----------------------------------------------------------- // test.cc #include <iostream.h> #include <stdio.h> main(void) { cout << "Hello world.\n"; for(int i=1; i<3; i++) printf("Hello %d\n",i); } ---------------------------------------------------------- Am I missing something? Or, it is just simply NeXT's cc can not do c++ well. Thanks for any advice. -- ---------------- Yuwen Cheng University of Arizona, Math yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: tal@cs.caltech.edu (Tal Lancaster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Beware new ELSA video driver Date: 1 May 1996 05:34:56 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <4m6t60$lil@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Cc: tal Be very careful when upgrading to the new ELSA video driver (1.3A) As it took me many hours to get my system running again. In short back up your old driver and configs so you can go back to them if you need to. The following is a very brief overview of what happened to me: (ELSA WINNER 2000PRO/X-4 PCI board) 1. While installing the 1.3A driver (I was currently using 1.23), there was a system message like: "This driver already exists replace?" I said yes. 2. Then the next thing I knew I had two driver listings in the Devices window and the resource conflict alert was up to (abviously). 3. At this point I was unable to delete none of the two driver listings and the Port Adress menu as gone (all that was there was Mapped Memory). 4. At this point my best guess as to what happened was that the entry for the 1.23 driver was confused as the driver files were replaced with the 1.3A files (Looking back, I think I should clicked the remove button before installing 1.3A). So I felt there was no other choice but to save what I had in Configure and hope for the best. 5. After rebooting the system would panic everytime it got to loading the video driver 6. After booting up in single user, I was able to determine it kept trying to load up with the old 1.23 configuration. 7. Well to make a long story short, I was able to make the system come up in VGA mode and fix everything in Configure. This was after sevear mucking in the driver area make it work. Now everything is fine. -- *********************************************************************** Tal Lancaster - tal@cs.caltech.edu (NeXTSTEP, MIME, and regular Email The RenderMan Repository -- http://pete.cs.caltech.edu/RMR/ ************************************************************************
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From: fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu (Michael Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXT c++ Date: 1 May 1996 13:48:31 GMT Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-8285 Message-ID: <4m7q3f$i9m@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <4m6ebe$mg2@news.ccit.arizona.edu> yucheng@math.arizona.edu wrote: : Hi, : I think I've found one bug in NeXT's c++. : ... : { : cout << "Hello world.\n"; : for(int i=1; i<3; i++) printf("Hello %d\n",i); : } : ---------------------------------------------------------- I don't think this is a bug, although someone more up on the C++ standard can correct me. The streams facility of C++ and the standard I/O facility of C both support buffered I/O streams, but they are independent of each other. What you observe are timing differences of when the two kinds of streams decide to flush their buffers to the screen. To determine whether this is a real C++ bug, you would need to check whether or not C++ streams are required to be flushed when a newline is printed. If not, then both behaviors would seem to be correct. Moral: Don't mix the two kinds of buffered I/O in the same program, unless you're careful to flush the buffers when switching from one kind of I/O to the other (or don't care how they interleave). -- ================================================== | Michael Fischer <fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu> | | Professor of Computer Science | ==================================================
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Beware new ELSA video driver Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 12:43:17 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960503123954.21818A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <4m6t60$lil@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4m6t60$lil@gap.cco.caltech.edu> On 1 May 1996, Tal Lancaster wrote: > Be very careful when upgrading to the new ELSA video driver (1.3A) As it > took me many hours to get my system running again. In short back up your old > driver and configs so you can go back to them if you need to. [problems deleted] First: I'm not affiliated with ELSA. Don't blame ELSA for your fault. It is a known problem to update an installed driver. I noticed exactly your problem with every installed driver. The solution is simple: If you're going to upgrade a driver which is already used do the following: - run Configure - remove the used driver - quit Configure - update the driver - add the driver again with Configure. - reboot. Best regards, Boerny. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: Steve Edwards - SEWP <edwards@sewp.nasa.gov> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXT c++ Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 13:38:31 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA Message-ID: <960502093831.12089AADnG.edwards@vege> References: <4m6ebe$mg2@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <4m7q3f$i9m@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >From: fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu (Michael Fischer)>Subject: Re: NeXT c++ >Date: 1 May 1996 13:48:31 GMT >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs > >yucheng@math.arizona.edu wrote: >: Hi, > >: I think I've found one bug in NeXT's c++. >: ... >: { >: cout << "Hello world.\n"; > >: for(int i=1; i<3; i++) printf("Hello %d\n",i); >: } >: ---------------------------------------------------------- > >I don't think this is a bug, although someone more up on the C++ >standard can correct me. You're right. The desired behavior can be obtained by using the flush manipulator in the first line of main: cout << "Hello world.\n" << flush; But I find the endl manipulator preferable cout << "Hello world." << endl; This appends a newline and flushes the buffer. > >The streams facility of C++ and the standard I/O facility of C both >support buffered I/O streams, but they are independent of each other. >What you observe are timing differences of when the two kinds of >streams decide to flush their buffers to the screen. To determine >whether this is a real C++ bug, you would need to check whether or not >C++ streams are required to be flushed when a newline is printed. If >not, then both behaviors would seem to be correct. > >Moral: Don't mix the two kinds of buffered I/O in the same program, >unless you're careful to flush the buffers when switching from one >kind of I/O to the other (or don't care how they interleave). >-- >================================================== >| Michael Fischer <fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu> | >| Professor of Computer Science | >================================================== --- Stephen G. Edwards SEWP BOWL, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Tel: 301-286-0783 Fax: 301-286-1619 edwards@sewp.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: Beware new ELSA video driver Message-ID: <DqtrJn.Bw@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <4m6t60$lil@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 10:23:47 GMT In article <4m6t60$lil@gap.cco.caltech.edu> tal@cs.caltech.edu (Tal Lancaster) writes: > Be very careful when upgrading to the new ELSA video driver (1.3A) As it > took me many hours to get my system running again. In short back up your old > driver and configs so you can go back to them if you need to. > > The following is a very brief overview of what happened to me: > (ELSA WINNER 2000PRO/X-4 PCI board) > > 1. While installing the 1.3A driver (I was currently using 1.23), there was a > system message like: "This driver already exists replace?" I said yes. > > 2. Then the next thing I knew I had two driver listings in the Devices window > and the resource conflict alert was up to (abviously). > > 3. At this point I was unable to delete none of the two driver listings and > the Port Adress menu as gone (all that was there was Mapped Memory). > > 4. At this point my best guess as to what happened was that the entry for the > 1.23 driver was confused as the driver files were replaced with the 1.3A > files (Looking back, I think I should clicked the remove button before > installing 1.3A). So I felt there was no other choice but to save what I had > in Configure and hope for the best. > Actually a good idea, and this is clearly documented in the documentation of the driver!!!!!!!!!!! another way is just to save the buggy configuration quit Configure.app and restart it again and clean up the configuration. Cause the problem has also to do with Configure! ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH Support Florian-Seidl-Strasse 11 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg (NeXTMail and MIME welcome) Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: Postscript code errors saving "Chosen Printer/Include Fonts" Message-ID: <Dqtrpp.CL@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <1996Mar9.074353.2333@cmich.slip.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 10:27:25 GMT In article <1996Mar9.074353.2333@cmich.slip.netcom.com> chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com writes: > Hello: > > Is anyone out there a Postscript guru? I don't know if this is a > verifyable "bug," so if I would be better off posting in another group, > let me know. However, the problem seems to lie with postscript code > generated by the NeXT OS, so here it goes... > > I am trying to save a postscript file for the Agfa Accuset SF film output > printer, but the service bureau reports errors in the postscript file and, > indeed, the files cause problems when I attempt to open them in the > Preview app. > What Rip does the AGFA have, level 1 or Level 2? If it is level 2 ( my guess) you need a new ppd! ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH Support Florian-Seidl-Strasse 11 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg (NeXTMail and MIME welcome) Germany
From: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de (Jochen Richter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Beware new ELSA video driver Date: 3 May 1996 17:22:24 GMT Organization: schiele computertechnik, 76199 Karlsruhe Message-ID: <4mdfcg$efc@ts2.schiele-ct.de> References: <4m6t60$lil@gap.cco.caltech.edu> tal@cs.caltech.edu (Tal Lancaster) wrote: > Be very careful when upgrading to the new ELSA video driver (1.3A) As it > took me many hours to get my system running again. In short back up your old > driver and configs so you can go back to them if you need to. > > The following is a very brief overview of what happened to me: > (ELSA WINNER 2000PRO/X-4 PCI board) > > 1. While installing the 1.3A driver (I was currently using 1.23), there was a > system message like: "This driver already exists replace?" I said yes. > > 2. Then the next thing I knew I had two driver listings in the Devices window > and the resource conflict alert was up to (abviously). > > 3. At this point I was unable to delete none of the two driver listings and > the Port Adress menu as gone (all that was there was Mapped Memory). > > 4. At this point my best guess as to what happened was that the entry for the > 1.23 driver was confused as the driver files were replaced with the 1.3A > files (Looking back, I think I should clicked the remove button before > installing 1.3A). So I felt there was no other choice but to save what I had > in Configure and hope for the best. > > 5. After rebooting the system would panic everytime it got to loading the > video driver > > 6. After booting up in single user, I was able to determine it kept trying to > load up with the old 1.23 configuration. > > 7. Well to make a long story short, I was able to make the system come up in > VGA mode and fix everything in Configure. This was after sevear mucking in > the driver area make it work. > > Now everything is fine. > > > > > -- > *********************************************************************** > Tal Lancaster - tal@cs.caltech.edu (NeXTSTEP, MIME, and regular Email > The RenderMan Repository -- http://pete.cs.caltech.edu/RMR/ > ************************************************************************ > Your problem has nothing to do with the new ELSA driver but with Configure.app. You have upgraded a single screen driver with a multiscreen driver. After pressing "Update" in Configure.app the Instance0.table in WINNER.config still exists, most probably with different parameters. When you reboot then, the system most probably crashes. One simple solution would have been to boot single user and remove Instance0.table in WINNER.config. Then it starts up with Default.table (which has been updated with the new driver!). or 1. Start Configure.app. 2. Chose Display and remove any displays. 3. Save and Quit. 4. Remove the old WINNER.config manually. 5. Install the new driver in the right place. 6. Start Configure.app again. 7. Chose Display and configure your display(s) (with the new driver!). 8. Save and reboot your system. -- Jochen Richter SYSTEM analyse design entwicklung (S.a.d.e.) Akademiestrasse 16 Phone: +49-721-9 20 30 90 D-76133 Karlsruhe Fax: +49-721-9 20 30 99 Germany e-mail: jr@Sade.schiele-ct.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Subject: gnutar bug? Message-ID: <DqvqB6.32v@RnA.NL> Sender: news@RnA.NL Organization: R&A Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 11:52:18 GMT How come I get gzip: stdout: Broken pipe gnutar: child returned status 1 On a 'gnutar ztvf' on an archive I just created with 'gnutar zcvf' My version is: su@Spike 57) gnutar --version GNU tar version 1.11.2 I have seen this before on some archives, but now I have seen it on something I just created myself. -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. Renee: "Met veel koper maakt men hoempa." (After hearing a Nielsen symphony)
From: dossr@ecs.ecs.csus.edu (Robert C. Doss Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: gnutar bug? Date: 4 May 1996 16:34:59 GMT Organization: California State University, Sacramento Message-ID: <4mg0vj$4jk@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> References: <DqvqB6.32v@rna.nl> I've been having similar problems with the same version of gnutar. When I decompress an archive using 'gnutar -xvzf', the archive decompresses but I frequently get: gzip: stdout: Broken pipe gnutar: child returned status 1 The programs I decompress seem to work fine, but I always have a nagging felling that there might be some piece at the end of the archive that didn't quite get decompressed. -- Robert C. Doss, Jr. California State University, Sacramento e-mail: dossr@csus.edu (MIME & NeXTMail o.k.) WWW: http://www.gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~dossr Facsimile: (707) 253-3063
From: cph@next.com (Charles d'Harcourt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: WebObjects doesn't run. Date: 5 May 1996 10:00:58 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4mhu8q$dj6@news.next.com> References: <4lrsio$iu8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Actually, the know conflict with PPP was fixed after the Beta (thank you beta testers), and 1.0 has been tested with PPP on NEXTSTEP and should work in the configuration you describe. To get more info on what's causing the problem you're experiencing, you may want to turn on adaptor logging by creating a /tmp/logWebObjects file and keeping an eye on the log in /tmp/CGIMessenger.log as you submit your request (check out http://www.next.com/Pubs/Documents/WebObjects/ServingWebObjects for more info). Also, while you're developing an app, I would recommend starting it by hand in a terminal window rather than letting it be autostarted by the adaptor. Doing this will make it easier for you to restart your app or view the output it generates. C= PS: You may want to post future WebObjects questions to comp.sys.next.programmer, whose readers might have more experience with WebObjects. _______________________________________________________ Charles d'Harcourt, Web Group, NeXT Software, Inc. cph@next.com, http://www.next.com/~cph Not speaking on behalf of NeXT Software or Wonder bread. kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong) writes: > > I think it conflict with PPP in your system (It's a bug). Try uninstall > your PPP and it should work. > > > --KAI-- > > Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes: > > Hello, > > > > I'm posting this to the newsgroup in the hope to get an answer > > prior to the NeXTanswers team and even because it's maybe a simple > > problem. > > > > I'm running NS 3.3 on Intel. I installed WebObjcts 1.0 and WebServer > > as well as the Foundation User Patch (NeXTasnwer 2117). I did a > > standard installation which means that everything went to > > /NextLibrary/. I use a single user machine, configured to run PPP > > connections as needed (this means that I added some hosts with > > hostconfig and added addtiional IPs as well as additional nameserver, > > but bring up the ppp link only by hand if I need it). > > > > Everything runs fine after starting the httpd as advised. I even can > > get output of e.g. test-cgi etc. However running WebObjects the > > _first_ time causes OmniWeb to load forever. Every access after > > this first run causes an immediate reply like: Did not receive > > response from application. So I can'r run WebObjects nor can I run > > any WO example. > > > > Any hints? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Boerny. > > > > Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) > > scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ > > scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ > > email: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca > url: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: gnutar bug? Message-ID: <DqxyED.Kw4@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <DqvqB6.32v@rna.nl> <4mg0vj$4jk@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 16:42:13 GMT In article <4mg0vj$4jk@csusac.ecs.csus.edu>, Robert C. Doss Jr. <dossr@ecs.ecs.csus.edu> wrote: >I've been having similar problems with the same version of >gnutar. When I decompress an archive using 'gnutar -xvzf', the archive >decompresses but I frequently get: >gzip: stdout: Broken pipe >gnutar: child returned status 1 I've been noticing this a lot lately too, and I don't always use the NeXT provided gzip and gnutar, I usually use the (newer) ones I compiled myself. The error is actually coming from gzip, not gnutar. Gzip is complaining that gnutar found the end of the archive and closed the pipe even though there was still some junk gzip wanted to send it. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> <http://www.nvc.cc.ca.us/~fozztexx>
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From: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Using -unmounting:ok: <<< BUG REPORT Date: 6 May 1996 17:36:01 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <4mlda1$c5k@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> <<< Date: Wed, 24 Apr 96 23:56:02 +0200 <<< From: Raf Schietekat <flexus!rfschtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be> <<< To: Eskandar Ensafi <esky@CS.UCLA.EDU> <<< Subject: Re: Using -unmounting:ok: (I can't get any results!) KBNS.33.3.007_o3.2-3.3o Application -unmounting:ok:, -app:unmounting: Description: ----------- Three Application instance methods monitor mounting and unmounting volumes: -mounted: and -unmounted:, which are called after [[Application workspace] beginListeningForDeviceStatusChanges];, and -unmounting:ok:, which is supposedly called in ``all active'' applications and ``only if the application was launched from the Workspace Manager'' without the need for the message to [Application workspace]; three corresponding delegate methods are (seemingly correctly) called from the main method, see the documentation. Problems: -------- 1. Apparently the former two work as described, but the latter pair is called only in applications holding a reference to the volume, even if they are not active (probably the author meant ``running'' applications), and even if they were started from a shell. 2. Even though the documentation says that the default implementation of -unmounting:ok: sets flag to the return value of -app:unmounting: and NO objects to unmounting, and the return value to -unmounting:ok: is ``an arbitrary integer; your application defines and interprets it.'', unmounting is blocked either by * returning 1 from -app:unmounting:, if the default implementation of -unmounting:ok: is used, * both setting flag to 0 and returning 0 in -unmounting:ok: (both are required). How to verify: ------------- Use this in an Application subclass. Don't declare these methods, otherwise the compiler can't check them against the declarations in the AppKit. Don't forget to begin listening for device status changes, or not, depending on what you want to test. #ifdef TEST_KBNS_33_3_007 -app:sender mounted:(const char *)fullPath{ // from mounted: NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"app:mounted:``%s''",NULL,NULL,NULL,fullPath); return [[self superclass] instancesRespondTo:_cmd] ? [super app:sender mounted:fullPath] : 0 /*value ignored by AppKit*/ ; } -app:sender unmounted:(const char *)fullPath{ // from app:unmounted NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"app:unmounted:``%s''",NULL,NULL,NULL,fullPath); return [[self superclass] instancesRespondTo:_cmd] ? [super app:sender unmounted:fullPath] : 0 /*value ignored by AppKit*/ ; } -(int)app:sender unmounting:(const char *)fullPath{ // from unmounting:ok: NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"app:unmounting:``%s''",NULL,NULL,NULL,fullPath); return [[self superclass] instancesRespondTo:_cmd] ? [super app:sender unmounting:fullPath] : 0 /*objects to unmounting*/ ; } -(int)mounted:(const char *)fullPath{ // after beginListeningForDeviceStatusChanges NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"mounted:``%s''",NULL,NULL,NULL,fullPath); chdir(fullPath); return [super mounted:fullPath]; } -(int)unmounted:(const char *)fullPath{ // after beginListeningForDeviceStatusChanges NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"unmounted:``%s''",NULL,NULL,NULL,fullPath); return [super unmounted:fullPath]; } -(int)unmounting:(const char *)fullPath ok:(int *)flag{ // if and only if application launched from Workspace Manager NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"unmounting:``%s'' ok:&%i", NULL,NULL,NULL,fullPath,*flag); chdir("/"); switch(NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"set flag to:","0","1",NULL)){ case NX_ALERTDEFAULT : *flag=0; break;case NX_ALERTALTERNATE: *flag=1; } switch(NXRunAlertPanel(NULL,"return:","0","1","from super")){ case NX_ALERTDEFAULT : return 0; break;case NX_ALERTALTERNATE: return 1; break;default : return [super unmounting:fullPath ok:flag]; } } #endif Urgency: ------- Does no damage, not immediately obvious, fairly easy workarounds. Confirmed: --------- Eskandar_Ensafi (o3.3o, reported), Raf_Schietekat (o3.2o) Details: ------- * Eskandar_Ensafe tested with floppy disk on Intel and optical disk on NeXTcube. * Raf_Schietekat tested with floppy disk and CD-ROM on NeXTstation. Workaround: ---------- 1. Open a reference in -mounted: or its delegate method, if this is what you want. 2. Always return 0 in mounting:ok: if you implement this, and return 1 to object in app:mounting:, otherwise. If your application blocks a volume because you followed the documentation, quit the application first, or do something else to stop it referring to that volume, and try again. Cure (for NeXT): --------------- Make documentation match reality (specify which applications get this message). Also don't think this method is obsolete: a ...Did...-like method does not obsolete a ...Will...-like method (see Comment). Report history: -------------- * Eskandar_Ensafi reported this to c.s.n.programmer on 1996-04-10. * On 1996-04-15 a first draft of this KBNS entry was posted to programmer and bugs on the mistaken assumption that the message was never sent. * On <todo specify> a corrected draft was posted to both newsgroups, with the stuff about 2. added and some other changes. Comment: ------- The AppKit Release Notes specific to 3.0 (as viewed on 3.2) say ``The following Speaker/Listener messages have been obsoleted and replaced with improved API described below under "Interapplication Image Dragging" and "Workspace Protocol". '', mentioning -unmounting:ok:. Well, it still works for those applications holding references to the volume. Also, there is functionality that you can't get from -unmounted:. Without -unmounting:ok:, a user gets a meaningless panel saying the volume could not be unmounted because some application is using it. With the method, that application gets the chance to take appropriate action, like asking the user for what should be done. Or will just app:unmounting: be kept? It is not clear what is meant, to say the least. <<< -- In a long black car And the lights flash blue | Vision With the prettiest shit My vision thing | Thing From Panama Come | THE SISTERS When the sirens wail Slamming through | OF MERCY
From: tony@gst1.gestel.it (Antonio Flores) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Adaptec 2940 and command queueing Date: 7 May 1996 12:07:25 GMT Organization: Italia Online Message-ID: <4mnedt$ov6@mikasa.iol.it> Is there a way to enable the "command queueing" feature when one or more scsi devices can t handle it? Antonio Flores tony@gestel.it
From: kykim@tenteus.com (Kevin Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Flakey Mail.app behavior Date: 9 May 1996 16:05:53 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <4mt551$ek0@news4.digex.net> HI all, I'm experiencing some flakey Mail.app behavior. I am using Mail.app 3.3, sendmail 8.7.3, procmail 3.10 and PopOver 1.3. I am able to download my mail and then sort it using PopMail, but the messages I specifed to stay in my mail spool directory can't be read. I launch the Mail.app and my new mail message sound goes off, the Mail.app icon shows the number of new messages. But when I click "Get Mail", nothing happens. Then a day or two later, I might get the message. I tar'd up my mail directories, moved it to another NeXT box, and had no problems reading my mail. I tried deleting my table_of_contents file, but that didn't seem to help. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, -kevin -- Kevin Kim kykim@access.digex.net
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Flakey Mail.app behavior Date: 10 May 1996 01:03:08 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-i-12.usc.edu Message-ID: <4mu4kc$2im@usc.edu> References: <4mt551$ek0@news4.digex.net> Cc: kykim@tenteus.com In <4mt551$ek0@news4.digex.net> Kevin Kim wrote: > HI all, > > I'm experiencing some flakey Mail.app behavior. I am using Mail.app 3.3, > sendmail 8.7.3, procmail 3.10 and PopOver 1.3. > > I am able to download my mail and then sort it using PopMail, but the > messages I specifed to stay in my mail spool directory can't be read. I > launch the Mail.app and my new mail message sound goes off, the Mail.app icon > shows the number of new messages. But when I click "Get Mail", nothing > happens. Then a day or two later, I might get the message. > > I tar'd up my mail directories, moved it to another NeXT box, and had no > problems reading my mail. I tried deleting my table_of_contents file, but > that didn't seem to help. First of all, did you check the console for any messages? That'd be helpful. Secondly, it sounds like a permissions problem, probably procmail. I'm not familiar with PopMail, but that's another area to check for permission. ALSO - if you are using procmail (and formail, and appnmail for NeXTMAIL), to deliver mail to your Active.mbox, then that's the problem, as when you are running Mail.app, Active.mbox is locked, and the procmail -> appnmail routine cannot acess that mbox and will queue for later those messages that are to delivered there until that mbox is unlocked, i.e. Mail.app is quit. So, if that is the case that you are using a procmail recipe to deliver mail to your Active.mbox, then you should retool your procmail recipes so that the mail for Active.mbox are what is remaining after all recipes have taken their hits, and then the remaining mail will go to /usr/spool/mqueue as normal... -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: sorta bug: 'disk' in save/open panel Message-ID: <B1C0793101A23A0C@-SMF-> Date: 10 May 96 14:56:00 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII The Open and Save panels since 3.2 (if not earlier) have 3 nice buttons down the bottom. One for the home dir, one for the floppy disk, and one to eject the floppy disk. Well, except that it isn't just for the floppy disk. It is apparently for any removable disk. So the other day I open a file, go to save it, click on the 'disk' icon, name it, then go to the File Manager, eject the floppy, and go on my way. Except the file had been saved to my EZ drive. Turns out that it saves to whatever removable disk it finds first, going alphabetically. Now, to me it seems like it would be preferable to have this save only to the floppy disk, but that might just be because my EZ is mounted as 'Backups' and 99% of my floppies are 'unlabeled'. Anyway, I don't know if this is a 'bug' because it doesn't save to just the floppy, or a feature because it will save to whatever removable disk it finds first. Just thought y'all might want to know.... TjL [Note: this address cannot read the 'reply-to' line ] -- Timothy J. Luoma SBN 476 Princeton Theological Seminary Princeton, NJ 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu MIME OK / No NeXTMail please
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Flakey Mail.app behavior Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 10 May 1996 15:38:35 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <4mvntr$i9b@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <4mt551$ek0@news4.digex.net> Kevin Kim (kykim@tenteus.com) wrote: : I'm experiencing some flakey Mail.app behavior. I am using Mail.app 3.3, : sendmail 8.7.3, procmail 3.10 and PopOver 1.3. : I am able to download my mail and then sort it using PopMail, but the : messages I specifed to stay in my mail spool directory can't be read. I : launch the Mail.app and my new mail message sound goes off, the Mail.app icon : shows the number of new messages. But when I click "Get Mail", nothing : happens. Then a day or two later, I might get the message. Well, I haven't seen this specific problem, but I understand that there were a couple of weird rare-occurence bugs in PopOver. PopOver is now at version 1.5, and you should consider upgrading. --Chris Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst -------------------------------------- computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by | chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad | http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: sorta bug: 'disk' in save/open panel Date: 11 May 1996 14:54:14 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <4n29mm$ntd@news.iastate.edu> References: <B1C0793101A23A0C@-SMF-> In article <B1C0793101A23A0C@-SMF-> 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) writes: .. > > Turns out that it saves to whatever removable disk it finds first, going > alphabetically. Nope, if you click it a second time, then it will select the next removable disk. It will circularly select every removable disk as you click the disk button. You simply have to look and see which directory was selected before you click the save button. I actually prefer the behavior that it exhibits. -- Rod Ragner, UNIX Systems Administrator/NEXTSTEP Application Developer Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine, Iowa State University, 2630 Vet. Med. Bldg., Ames, Iowa 50011 Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-6961 or 3564, (NeXT Mail accepted) Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
From: Carl Hansen <hansen@best.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: trying to mount Appleshare disk from Mac problem Date: 12 May 1996 17:09:15 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <4n55vr$77k@nntp1.best.com> Trying to get Appleshare to work,i.e. to mount disk from Mac on ethernet lan. Somewhat flaky; I click on the name of the Mac in /Net/Appleshare/macname, get dialog box, I type in name and password then it comes back again and asks for name and password again. Is there someway of turning off authentication? (My network is only 3 machines.) (I am able to ping the Mac and telnet from the Mac.) sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. rebooting sometimes helps seems to depend on the order machines are started I suspect this problem has been gone over before... or does Appleshare work for others? using NS3.2 on Motorola; Mac IIfx, 7.1.1 -- ** hansen@best.com http://www.cocktail.com *** * http://www.berkeleynetcentral.com/DrPseudocryptonym * * Dr Pseudocryptonym's Book Knowledge * ************* a 100% text-only web site *************
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: sorta bug: 'disk' in save/open panel Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 09:48:19 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515094710.4389F-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <B1C0793101A23A0C@-SMF-> <4n29mm$ntd@news.iastate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Rod Ragner <rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu> In-Reply-To: <4n29mm$ntd@news.iastate.edu> On 11 May 1996, Rod Ragner wrote: > In article <B1C0793101A23A0C@-SMF-> 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu > (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) writes: > .. > > > > Turns out that it saves to whatever removable disk it finds first, going > > alphabetically. > > Nope, if you click it a second time, then it will select the next > removable disk. It will circularly select every removable disk as you > click the disk button. You simply have to look and see which directory > was selected before you click the save button. I actually prefer the > behavior that it exhibits. I hadn't tried that.... You're right, that is a nice feature. I withdraw my previous bug report ;-) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> No NeXTmail! USENET: Please CC this address on replies, things vanish fast. NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info' If above address fails, use: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
From: candlish@gladstone.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: man -t Date: 16 May 1996 19:19:39 -0700 Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <4ngnnr$1aq@gladstone.uoregon.edu> I've just upgraded to 3.3p1 Intel. A number of things have become broken. Among them, dunce:/Users/candlish 2 % man -t man > /tmp/man.ps pscat: trouble reading .ct file The TROFF environment variable is as before TROFF=ptroff -t I think I've seen something here about this before. What? TIA jCandlish .
From: candlish@gladstone.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/tcp.h Date: 16 May 1996 19:34:40 -0700 Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <4ngok0$c7t@gladstone.uoregon.edu> I had to replace this file with its 3.2 version to compile CLISP. I haven't had the time to chase down the reason. Does someone have a different workaround. Also, are there any other gotcha's in the release 3.3 headers, or perhaps an archive of this newsgroup? TIA jCandlish .
From: candlish@efn.org (John Candlish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Is pscat broken for you too? Date: 17 May 1996 03:37:06 -0700 Organization: Oregon Public Networking: Eugene Freenet Message-ID: <4nhksi$fg@garcia.efn.org> I've been having more than a liile trouble converting troff CAT files to postscript. A simple example is terminal session line #8. Lines # 9 & 10 seem to indicate that troff is making a good CAT file. Line #11 indicates a problem with the character correspondance table. Lines # 12 thru 21 indicate a problem with path resolution. The rest of the session shows the frustration one meets when trying to rebuild the character tables. terminal session: dunce:/tmp 8 # man -t man > man.ps pscat: trouble reading .ct file dunce:/tmp 9 # troff -t /usr/man/man1/man.1 > man.cat dunce:/tmp 10 # lf total 11 drwxrwxrwt 2 root 2048 May 17 02:59 ./ drwxrwxr-x 12 root 1024 Feb 27 1995 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root 12 May 17 02:54 .FixedDisks.wmd -rw------- 1 candlish 700 May 17 02:59 console.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root 5857 May 17 02:59 man.cat -rw-r--r-- 1 root 0 May 17 02:59 man.ps dunce:/tmp 11 # pscat man.cat > man.ps pscat: trouble reading .ct file dunce:/tmp 12 # pscat -FTimes man.cat > man.ps pscat: can't open ct file (Times) or (/usr/lib/transcript/troff.font/Times/Times) dunce:/tmp 13 # pscat -FCourier man.cat > man.ps pscat: can't open ct file (Courier) or (/usr/lib/transcript/troff.font/Times/Courier) dunce:/tmp 14 # pscatV3.2 -FCourier man.cat > man.ps pscatV3.3: can't open ct file (Courier) or (/usr/lib/transcript/troff.font/Times/Courier) dunce:/tmp 15 # setenv PSLIBDIR "/NEXTSTEP_3.2/usr/lib/transcript" dunce:/tmp 16 # pscat man.cat > man.ps pscat: trouble reading .ct file dunce:/tmp 17 # pscat -FTimes man.cat > man.ps pscat: can't open ct file (Times) or (/usr/lib/transcript/troff.font/Times/Times) dunce:/tmp 18 # rehash dunce:/tmp 19 # pscat -FTimes man.cat > man.ps pscat: can't open ct file (Times) or (/usr/lib/transcript/troff.font/Times/Times) dunce:/tmp 20 # pscat -F Times man.cat > man.ps pscat: can't open ct file (Times) or (/usr/lib/transcript/troff.font/Times/Times) dunce:/tmp 21 # pscat man.cat > man.ps pscat: trouble reading .ct file dunce:/tmp 22 # setenv PSLIBDIR /usr/lib/transcript dunce:/tmp 23 # cd /usr/lib/transcript dunce:/usr/lib/transcript 24 # cd troff.font dunce:/usr/lib/transcript/troff.font 25 # lf total 255 drwxr-xr-x 6 candlish 1024 May 17 02:23 ./ drwxr-xr-x 5 candlish 3072 May 17 02:18 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 254 May 17 01:48 .dir3_0.wmd -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 15172 Oct 20 1994 AvGarBk.afm -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 15272 Oct 20 1994 AvGarBkO.afm -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 15175 Oct 20 1994 AvGarDe.afm -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 15267 Oct 20 1994 AvGarDeO.afm drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 17 02:25 AvantGarde/ -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 15172 May 17 02:18 AvantGarde-Book.afm -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 15272 May 17 02:18 AvantGarde-BookOblique.afm -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1831 Oct 20 1994 AvantGarde.map -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1798 Oct 20 1994 Bookman.map drwxr-xr-x 2 candlish 1024 Oct 20 1994 Courier/ -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1710 Oct 20 1994 Courier.map -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1797 Oct 20 1994 Garamond.map -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1807 Oct 20 1994 HelvNarrow.map drwxr-xr-x 2 candlish 1024 Oct 20 1994 Helvetica/ -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1678 Oct 20 1994 Helvetica.map -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1820 Oct 20 1994 Lubalin.map -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1797 Oct 20 1994 NewCentury.map -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1741 Oct 20 1994 Optima.map -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1762 Oct 20 1994 Palatino.map -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1808 Oct 20 1994 Souvenir.map drwxr-xr-x 2 candlish 1024 May 17 02:40 Times/ -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1655 Oct 20 1994 Times.map -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 1824 Oct 20 1994 Zapf.map -rwxr-xr-x 1 candlish 1996 May 17 02:03 addtroff.sh* -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 26055 Oct 20 1994 chartab.inc -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 11444 Oct 20 1994 config -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 494 Oct 20 1994 doto.awk -rw-r--r-- 1 candlish 32 Oct 20 1994 font.head -rwxr-xr-x 1 candlish 90112 Oct 20 1994 pscatmap* dunce:/usr/lib/transcript/troff.font 26 # addtroff.sh Times Times.map mkdir: Times: File exists Building Times with Times.map No AFM file found for Times-Roman ftTR ftTI ftTB ftS mv: Times.ct: Cannot access: No such file or directory ftR: File exists ftI: File exists ftB: File exists dunce:/usr/lib/transcript/troff.font 27 # Software conf: drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 11 21:15 EODeveloper.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 8 root 1024 May 11 21:06 EOUser.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 8 root 1024 May 11 21:04 FoundationUserPatch.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 11 20:15 3.3DeveloperPatch.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 11 20:08 3.3Intel68kPatch.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 7 20:39 DeveloperDoc.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 7 20:28 DeveloperLibs.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 7 19:56 DeveloperTools.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 7 18:00 Intel824X0.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 7 16:31 EIDE.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 7 16:23 SoundBlaster16.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 7 16:22 SerialPointingDevice.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 7 16:21 PortServer.pkg/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 May 7 16:21 ISASerialPort.pkg/ Hardware Configuration: Processor: I386 (Intel 586) Primary memory: 32.00 MB Hostname: dunce Boot Drivers PS2Keyboard Floppy SYM53c8 EIDE EISABus PCIBus Intel824X0 ISASerialPort Drivers: PS2Keyboard at IRQ 1; ports 0x60-0x65 Floppy at IRQ 6; DMA 2; ports 0x3f2-0x3f7 Symbios Logic SCSI controller EIDE at IRQ 14; ports 0x1f0-0x1f7 EISABus at IRQ 2; ports 0x00-0x0f 0x20-0x21 0x40-0x4b 0x70-0x71 0x81-0x8F 0x92-0x92 0xc0-0xcf PCIBus System Serial at IRQ 4; ports 0x3f8-0x3ff System Serial at IRQ 3; ports 0x2f8-0x2ff Diamond Viper ports 0x3b4-0x3b5 0x3b8-0x3bb 0x3c0-0x3cf 0x3d4-0x3dc 0x102-0x102 map 0x80000000-0x9fffffff 0xa0000-0xbffff 0xc0000-0xcffff; Sound Blaster 16 at IRQ 5; DMA 1 5; ports 0x0220-0x0233 0x330-0x331 0x388-0x389 Serial Mouse Port Server .
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: man -t Date: 17 May 1996 12:48:05 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <4nhsi5$8q6@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <4ngnnr$1aq@gladstone.uoregon.edu> In-Reply-To: <4ngnnr$1aq@gladstone.uoregon.edu> On 05/16/96, John Boyd Candlish wrote: >I've just upgraded to 3.3p1 Intel. A number of things have become broken. >Among them, > >dunce:/Users/candlish 2 % man -t man > /tmp/man.ps >pscat: trouble reading .ct file > >The TROFF environment variable is as before >TROFF=ptroff -t > >I think I've seen something here about this before. What? > >TIA >jCandlish >.. > > If my memory is correct, you need to replace the following two files with those in 3.2 CDROM. /usr/lib/transcript/troff.font/Times/font.ct /Helvetica/font.ct -- ---------------- Yuwen Cheng University of Arizona, Math yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: Carl Hansen <hansen@shellx> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: trying to mount Appleshare disk from Mac problem Date: 18 May 1996 05:22:54 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <4njmre$snr@nntp1.best.com> References: <4n55vr$77k@nntp1.best.com> Carl Hansen <hansen@best.com> wrote: : Trying to get Appleshare to work,i.e. to mount disk from Mac on ethernet lan. Ignore the previous question. I didn't have authenication set correctly on the Mac side. But I still have a question: When the Apple share volumes are mounted from the Mac and the MAc crashes and is rebooted, what is the best way to get the Appleshare volumes mounted again? Usually I have to reboot the Next. Sometimes killing ashared works, but not always. -- ** hansen@best.com http://www.cocktail.com *** * http://www.berkeleynetcentral.com/DrPseudocryptonym * * Dr Pseudocryptonym's Book Knowledge * ************* a 100% text-only web site *************
From: jm040795@fhda.edu (Raven) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: 3c509 vs NeXTStep Date: 18 May 1996 04:17:46 GMT Organization: TheSharewareCollector Message-ID: <jm040795-1705962117490001@mencju.apple.com> My card won't work with NeXTStep, but it works with: NT3.51, NT4.x, Linux, OS/2, DOS (ODI, pktdrv, NDIS), UnixWare, Solaris, Win3.11, and Win95. But the card seems to fail with NeXTStep 3.3. The card is an actual 3COM card OEMed to Farallon. It is an EtherWave card sold by Farallon which let's you daisy chain ethernet. Any suggestions? Any fixes?
From: Carl Hansen <hansen@shellx> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: trying to mount Appleshare disk from Mac problem Date: 19 May 1996 01:37:50 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <4nlu1e$lrj@nntp1.best.com> References: <4n55vr$77k@nntp1.best.com> Carl Hansen <hansen@best.com> wrote: : Trying to get Appleshare to work,i.e. to mount disk from Mac on ethernet lan. Ignore the previous question, something on the Mac side wasn't set up; it connects ok. But I still have a problem if/when the Mac crashes. Then I have to reboot usually to get it to mount again. Sometimes killing and restarting ashared works, but not always. What is the best way to remount the Mac drives after a Mac crash and reboot? -- ** hansen@best.com http://www.cocktail.com *** * http://www.berkeleynetcentral.com/DrPseudocryptonym * * Dr Pseudocryptonym's Book Knowledge * ************* a 100% text-only web site *************
From: JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Problems with MAC-CD-ROM in SoftPC Date: 20 May 1996 20:41:25 GMT Organization: PIRONET GmbH Distribution: default Message-ID: <4nqldl$4qi@sail.leverkusen.netsurf.de> Summary: How can I use a MAC-CD-ROM with SoftPC Keywords: SoftPC MAC-CDROM Hello I have a problem. I have a CD-ROM (Phonebook of Germany) with a MAC-Filesystem. I can see the contents in the NEXTSTEP-Browser, but I cannot use the CD-ROM with SoftPC. (There is a Windows-Application on the CD-ROM to use the Phonebook database ) When I type the command use_cd in the DOS-Window of SoftPC to mount the CD-ROM I get the following message: So I type: C:\>use_cd and get the message: General failure reading device CDROM$$$ Abort, Retry, Ignore, Fail? When I say FAIL, I get the following message: MSCDEX Version 2.21 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp. 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990. All rights reserved. Drive F: = Driver CDROM$$$ unit 0 Then I tried to make a dir and get the following: C:\>dir f: CDR101: Not ready reading drive F Abort, Retry, Fail? f Volume in drive F has no label CDR101: Not ready reading drive F Abort, Retry, Fail? f Fail on INT 24 Can anybody help me? Thank You
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From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: trying to mount Appleshare disk from Mac problem Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 07:28:32 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-2105960728320001@frazer.com> References: <4n55vr$77k@nntp1.best.com> <4nlu1e$lrj@nntp1.best.com> I suspect the answer is to be found by studying the operation of autonfsmount and umount. I'd like to know as well, so if you find a solution, please post. I notice that if you umount a Mac's directory, double clicking on the icon doesn't restore the mount as it presumably should. Maybe you have to wait for a timeout. Barney
From: kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Network problems on SPARC Date: 21 May 1996 15:45:39 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4nsof3$654@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> When doing large transfers using thin ethernet from our SPARC 20 workstation to an Ultra1 (running Solaris 2.5) the SPARC/ NeXTSTEP box always loses network connectivity after 100 to 200 MB. The machine is still up (reacts on keystrokes), but can't be pinged. Any action requiring the network leads to an immediate hang. Shutting down cleanly does not work anymore. The machine is a Sparcstation 20 running NeXTSTEP 3.3/PL1 Anyone else had this problem? Is there any cure available? -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: tony@gst1.gestel.it (Antonio Flores) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Memory problem with MICRON MILLENIA PLUS P133 Date: 21 May 1996 15:49:45 GMT Organization: Italia Online Message-ID: <4nsomp$emv@mikasa.iol.it> I have a problem upgrading the system ftom 32MB to 64MB of ram: with 32MB the system works well with nextstep 3.3 but when i add other 32MB (purchased from MICRON and identical to the others simms) the system completes the boot process but the screen becomes black. At this point the system is not blocked, in fact, if I type "power" the turn off procedure comes back on the screen. If I use "config=Default" at the boot time or set "Default VGA" in the Configure.app the system hangs with a "System Panic" message. The system works well with Dos , Windows , Windows 95 and Windows NT. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks . ------------ Antonio Flores tony@gestel.it
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From: kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Memory problem with MICRON MILLENIA PLUS P133 Date: 21 May 1996 19:51:12 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4nt6rg$lmd@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <4nsomp$emv@mikasa.iol.it> Antonio Flores (tony@gst1.gestel.it) wrote: : I have a problem upgrading the system ftom 32MB to 64MB of ram: : with 32MB the system works well with nextstep 3.3 but when i add other : 32MB (purchased from MICRON and identical to the others simms) the system : completes the boot process but the screen becomes black. : At this point the system is not blocked, in fact, if I type "power" the : turn off procedure comes back on the screen. : If I use "config=Default" at the boot time or set "Default VGA" in the : Configure.app the system hangs with a "System Panic" message. : The system works well with Dos , Windows , Windows 95 and Windows NT. : Any help will be appreciated. Check the address of your video buffer (in Configure.app), it might be too low (under 64 MB). -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
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From: rog@ohm.york.ac.uk (Roger Peppe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: hideous bug when compositing on 8 bit displays under intel Date: 22 May 1996 20:13:48 GMT Organization: Department of Electronics, University of York, UK. Message-ID: <4nvshs$kbm@netty.york.ac.uk> aaargh the frustration! after two days, i've finally found my problem, and it seems to be a genuine bug. compositing a transparent white image from a bitmap containing interleaved R, G, B and alpha channels fails to work correctly. it overwrites the destination, rather than transferring transparently as it should. this *only* happens on 8 bit displays on intel platforms. i currently have an extremely pressing deadline, and would appreciate it if anyone has a decent fix for this problem. (there are users out there using 8 bit displays and telling them all to change their configuration is just not on!) any ideas ? cheers, rog. (rog@ohm.york.ac.uk) P.S. here is some code that reproduces the problem. try running it from the shell. it should produce a window containing a blocky "OK" when all is working; if the window is blank, you have seen the bug. #import <appkit/appkit.h> #import <libc.h> #define BMWIDTH 10 char bmspec[][BMWIDTH] = { "oooo k kk", "o o k kk ", "o o kkk ", "o o k k ", "o o k kk ", "oooo k kk" }; #define BMHEIGHT (sizeof(bmspec) / sizeof(bmspec[0])) #define SPP 4 /* samples per pixel */ id new_win(NXCoord width, NXCoord height); #define WHITE 255 #define BLACK 0 #define TRANSPARENT 0 #define OPAQUE 255 int main() { NXSize winsize = {BMWIDTH * 32.0, BMHEIGHT * 32.0}; unsigned char *bm; id bmrep, image; int x, y, i; [Application new]; /* * create bitmap * all pixels are white; letter pixels are transparent */ bm = (unsigned char *)malloc(BMWIDTH * BMHEIGHT * SPP); for (y = 0; y < BMHEIGHT; y++) for (x = 0; x < BMWIDTH; x++) { BOOL isletter = (bmspec[y][x] != ' '); unsigned char *place = &bm[y * BMWIDTH * SPP + x * SPP]; for (i = 0; i < SPP - 1; i++) place[i] = WHITE; place[i] = (isletter ? TRANSPARENT : OPAQUE); } bmrep = [[NXBitmapImageRep alloc] initData:bm pixelsWide:BMWIDTH pixelsHigh:BMHEIGHT bitsPerSample:8 samplesPerPixel:SPP hasAlpha:YES isPlanar:NO colorSpace:NX_RGBColorSpace bytesPerRow:0 bitsPerPixel:0]; [bmrep setSize:&winsize]; image = [[NXImage alloc] initSize:&winsize]; [image useRepresentation:bmrep]; { id win = new_win(winsize.width, winsize.height); NXPoint org = {0, 0}; [[win contentView] lockFocus]; PSsetgray(NX_BLACK); PSrectfill(0.0, 0.0, winsize.width, winsize.height); [image composite:NX_SOVER toPoint:&org]; DPSFlush(); [[win contentView] unlockFocus]; } printf("press return..."); getchar(); return 0; } id new_win(NXCoord width, NXCoord height) { NXRect fr; NXSize scrsz; id ret; [NXApp getScreenSize:&scrsz]; fr.origin.x = (scrsz.width - width) / 2; fr.origin.y = (scrsz.height - height) / 2; fr.size.width = width; fr.size.height = height; ret = [[[Window alloc] initContent:&fr style:NX_PLAINSTYLE backing:NX_RETAINED buttonMask:0 defer:NO] reenableDisplay]; [ret orderFront:nil]; return ret; }
From: Tim Triemstra <empath@a.crl.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: 3c509 vs NeXTStep Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 11:47:59 -0400 Organization: Alpha Star International Message-ID: <31A488AF.4642@a.crl.com> References: <jm040795-1705962117490001@mencju.apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Raven <jm040795@fhda.edu> Raven wrote: > > My card won't work with NeXTStep, but it works with: > NT3.51, NT4.x, Linux, OS/2, DOS (ODI, pktdrv, NDIS), > UnixWare, Solaris, Win3.11, and Win95. But the card > seems to fail with NeXTStep 3.3. > > The card is an actual 3COM card OEMed to Farallon. > It is an EtherWave card sold by Farallon which let's > you daisy chain ethernet. > > Any suggestions? Any fixes? It has been my experience (and confirmed once by someone at NeXT) that the 3COM cards use a different bandwidth (or something like that) that is smaller than the other cards supported by NeXT as of version 3.3 This makes it so, although it technically works, it runs incredibly slow as it only gets a small fraction of the data out per packet that it needs. My explanation may stink but the point is that just because a driver is written for it doesn't mean it works well. -- Tim Triemstra Go Red Wings!!! empath@a.crl.com
From: aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: hideous bug when compositing on 8 bit displays under intel Date: 23 May 1996 14:51:28 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <4o1u1g$k05@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4nvshs$kbm@netty.york.ac.uk> rog@ohm.york.ac.uk (Roger Peppe) wrote: > compositing a transparent white image from a bitmap containing > interleaved R, G, B and alpha channels fails to work correctly. > > it overwrites the destination, rather than transferring transparently > as it should. > > this *only* happens on 8 bit displays on intel platforms. I have never found any documentation about how 8-bit NS color allocates bits among R, G, B, and alpha. Does 8-bit color even have an alpha channel? How are bits allocated? -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@cubicsol.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: jsmorrison@tasc.com (Jeff S. Morrison) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: SUNSparc20 and NeXTstep 3.3 and I/O Monopoly Date: 23 May 1996 17:08:50 GMT Organization: TASC Message-ID: <4o2632$4da@lois.Read.TASC.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII We're running NeXTstep 3.3 on a Sparc20 with two external SCSI 8mm tape drives (Cybernetics). Any I/O seems to monopolize the CPU and lock out all other resources. This is most noticeable during tape drive operations. For example, when rewinding an 8mm tape, we can't open/close a window. Events get stacked and are finally executed when the tape is rewound and idle. Sometimes the system completely hangs, as if "too many" events have been stacked. Thanks for any help regarding this.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: fuguen@paris.fdn.fr (Francois UGUEN) Subject: CraftMan Engine+ ETI Birds of Europe Message-ID: <DrvsE9.8Bx@paris.fdn.fr> Sender: news@paris.fdn.fr Organization: Individual - PARIS - Francois UGUEN Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 23:10:57 GMT Hello Birds of Europe for NEXTSTEP, a Multimedia Software I purchased in 1994, failed to function when I recently switched to NEXTSTEP 3.3 Martine van der Eerden, from ETI Biodiversity Center told me that the problem is due to the fact that the CraftMan Engine they used to build their software is failing to properly open color windows under NS 3.3 As this is very inconvenient and make Birds of Europe almost unusable, I'd like to know when a bug-fix release of the CraftMan Engine is planned to be released. Best regards, Francois UGUEN fuguen@paris.fdn.fr -- MM*: ?ìP8$
From: rog@ohm.york.ac.uk (Roger Peppe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: hideous bug apology Date: 24 May 1996 14:45:28 GMT Organization: Department of Electronics, University of York, UK. Message-ID: <4o4i28$16@netty.york.ac.uk> i wrote: > after two days, i've finally found my problem, and it seems to be > a genuine bug. > > compositing a transparent white image from a bitmap containing > interleaved R, G, B and alpha channels fails to work correctly. [...] > this *only* happens on 8 bit displays on intel platforms. sorry everyone, of course it was my fault, and it was not a bug at all, merely a feature. as documented in the second last sentence of the 6th paragraph of the "Premultiplication" section about two thirds of the way through the document: /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/Concepts/Pre3.0_Concepts/04_Drawing.rtfd the pixel value cannot be greater than the coverage value. the means that the pixel value : r=255,g=255,b=255,alpha=0 (i.e. transparent white) produces an undefined result, leading to different behaviours on 8-bit and 16-bit displays. the correct way to do it is something like: void set_pixel(unsigned char *pix, int r, int g, int b, int alpha) { float mult = (float)alpha / 255; pix[0] = r * mult; pix[1] = g * mult; pix[2] = b * mult; pix[3] = alpha; } sorry about the shouting. i have no excuse. cheers, rog. p.s. all thanks to Ken Case for pointing this out.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: SUNSparc20 and NeXTstep 3.3 and I/O Monopoly Message-ID: <1996May24.234047.14803@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France References: <4o2632$4da@lois.Read.TASC.COM> Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 23:40:47 GMT In article <4o2632$4da@lois.Read.TASC.COM>, you wrote: > We're running NeXTstep 3.3 on a Sparc20 with two external SCSI 8mm tape drives > (Cybernetics). Any I/O seems to monopolize the CPU and lock out all other > resources. This is most noticeable during tape drive operations. For > example, when rewinding an 8mm tape, we can't open/close a window. Events get > stacked and are finally executed when the tape is rewound and idle. Sometimes > the system completely hangs, as if "too many" events have been stacked. > > Thanks for any help regarding this. > This is the case when the SCSI device or the computer does not handle DISCONNECTION on slow devices. --- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 48 55 09 90
From: cbliek@iiia.csic.es (Christian Bliek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadm Subject: TimeStamps -> FAQ? Date: 25 May 1996 09:05:33 GMT Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona Distribution: world Message-ID: <4o6igt$sto@lilith.uab.es> Howdy, I ran into the following problem on NS3.3 black > date ; touch foo ; ls -l foo Sat May 25 10:28:37 MET DST 1996 -rw-r--r-- 1 cbliek 0 May 25 10:32 foo which obviously confuses make! Although I recall that other people reported similar behavior a couple of months ago, I didn't find it in the FAQ ... Any suggestions? Thanks, Christian.
From: svail@regression.next.com (Scott Vail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: 3c509 vs NeXTStep Date: 26 May 1996 02:11:19 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4o8ek7$ska@news.next.com> References: <31A488AF.4642@a.crl.com> In article <31A488AF.4642@a.crl.com> Tim Triemstra <empath@a.crl.com> writes: > Raven wrote: > > > > My card won't work with NeXTStep, but it works with: > > NT3.51, NT4.x, Linux, OS/2, DOS (ODI, pktdrv, NDIS), > > UnixWare, Solaris, Win3.11, and Win95. But the card > > seems to fail with NeXTStep 3.3. > > > > The card is an actual 3COM card OEMed to Farallon. > > It is an EtherWave card sold by Farallon which let's > > you daisy chain ethernet. > > > > Any suggestions? Any fixes? > > It has been my experience (and confirmed once by someone at > NeXT) that the 3COM cards use a different bandwidth (or > something like that) that is smaller than the other cards > supported by NeXT as of version 3.3 > > This makes it so, although it technically works, it runs > incredibly slow as it only gets a small fraction of the data out > per packet that it needs. > > My explanation may stink but the point is that just because a > driver is written for it doesn't mean it works well. > > -- > Tim Triemstra Go Red Wings!!! > empath@a.crl.com There is a new EtherLink III driver coming which fixes many of the performance problems of the original driver. Just keep your eye on the 3.3 Beta drivers directory in NeXTanswers (http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/NABrowse?/NEXTSTEP/Intel_Configuration_In formation/Drivers/3.3_Drivers/Beta). -- This is not official NeXT stuff, so ignore me if you want. http://www.next.com/~svail/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadm From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: TimeStamps -> FAQ? Message-ID: <1996May26.203620.19587@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France References: <4o6igt$sto@lilith.uab.es> Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 20:36:20 GMT cbliek@iiia.csic.es (Christian Bliek) wrote: > Howdy, > > I ran into the following problem on NS3.3 black > > > date ; touch foo ; ls -l foo > Sat May 25 10:28:37 MET DST 1996 > -rw-r--r-- 1 cbliek 0 May 25 10:32 foo > > which obviously confuses make! > > Although I recall that other people reported similar behavior a couple of > months ago, I didn't find it in the FAQ ... > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Christian. free is black and p133 is Intel fabien@free> date ; touch foo ; ls -l foo Sun May 26 22:32:09 MET DST 1996 -rw-r--r-- 1 fabien 0 May 26 22:32 foo fabien@free> rlogin p133 Last login: Sun May 26 22:22:02 from free fabien@p133> date ; touch foo ; ls -l foo Sun May 26 22:32:51 MET DST 1996 -rw-r--r-- 1 fabien 0 May 26 22:32 foo I think that you should apply the 3.3 patches available at ftp://ftp.next.com -- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 48 55 09 90
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: CraftMan Engine+ ETI Birds of Europe Date: 26 May 1996 17:51:31 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <4oa5n3$roq@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <DrvsE9.8Bx@paris.fdn.fr> In-Reply-To: <DrvsE9.8Bx@paris.fdn.fr> On 05/24/96, Francois UGUEN wrote: > As this is very inconvenient and make Birds of Europe almost > unusable, I'd like to know when a bug-fix release of the CraftMan > Engine is planned to be released. > Umm, sorry -- CraftMan was developed by Xanthus, who sadly went out of business a while back. Most of their applications were taken over by Lighthouse, but I've seen no indication that a re-release is in the offing. Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 27 May 1996 04:15:13 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4oba8h$g04@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 150+ ISV company pages - 350+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Is pscat broken for you too? Date: 27 May 1996 07:55:44 -0400 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <4oc580$di2@papoose.quick.com> References: <4nhksi$fg@garcia.efn.org> In article <4nhksi$fg@garcia.efn.org>, John Candlish <candlish@efn.org> wrote: >I've been having more than a liile trouble converting troff CAT files >to postscript. > >A simple example is terminal session line #8. >Lines # 9 & 10 seem to indicate that troff is making a good CAT file. >Line #11 indicates a problem with the character correspondance table. >Lines # 12 thru 21 indicate a problem with path resolution. > >The rest of the session shows the frustration one meets when trying >to rebuild the character tables. > The you are right about the problem. The font tables delivered on CD were compiled big-endian, so they do not work on intel and must be rebuilt. The other problem is that addtroff.sh fails to work. addtroff.sh includes a configuration file (./config) which does defines the REALPSLIBDIR to a path which does not exist. To fix this, modify config so that the variables PSLIBDIR and REALPSLIBDIR both have the value, '/usr/lib/transcript'. Finally, before running addtroff.sh, either mv bad font dirs out of the way, or remove them. (e.g. before building the Times font with the command addtroff.sh Times Times.map get rid of the directory /usr/lib/transcript/troff.font/Times) It should then work for you. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
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From: svail@Next.com (Scott Vail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Memory problem with MICRON MILLENIA PLUS P133 Date: 29 May 1996 23:27:39 GMT Organization: NEXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4oimhc$luk@news.next.com> References: <4nsomp$emv@mikasa.iol.it> <4nt6rg$lmd@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Cc: kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de In <4nt6rg$lmd@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann wrote: > Antonio Flores (tony@gst1.gestel.it) wrote: > : I have a problem upgrading the system ftom 32MB to 64MB of ram: > : with 32MB the system works well with nextstep 3.3 but when i add other > : 32MB (purchased from MICRON and identical to the others simms) the system > : completes the boot process but the screen becomes black. > : At this point the system is not blocked, in fact, if I type "power" the > : turn off procedure comes back on the screen. > : If I use "config=Default" at the boot time or set "Default VGA" in the > : Configure.app the system hangs with a "System Panic" message. > : The system works well with Dos , Windows , Windows 95 and Windows NT. > > : Any help will be appreciated. > > Check the address of your video buffer (in Configure.app), it might > be too low (under 64 MB). > > Yes, the port address is conflicting with physical memory. In Configure.app, try changing the port address of the video driver to something like 0x7f800000. -- This is not official NeXT stuff, so ignore me if you want. http://www.next.com/~svail/
From: JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: DOS CD-ROM mounted as MAC-CD-ROM Date: 30 May 1996 07:16:33 GMT Organization: PIRONET GmbH Distribution: default Message-ID: <4oji0h$ats@sail.leverkusen.netsurf.de> Summary: DOS-CD-ROM is mounted as MAC-CD-ROM Keywords: CD-ROM Hello, I have a CD-ROM with a Windows-Program. I want to us it with SoftPC. Unfortunately NEXTSTEP mounts the CD-ROM as a MAC-CD-ROM. Console says "probing for dos probing for mac" When mounted as a MAC-filesystem I cannot use the CD with SoftPC. Any suggestions? Thanks
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 3 Jun 1996 04:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4otose$9p@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 150+ ISV company pages - 350+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. 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You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! Written by: Eric P. 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From: shepherd@bilbo.suite.com (Scot Shepherd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: test - ignore Date: 7 Jun 1996 18:56:11 GMT Organization: Suite Software, Dallas, Anaheim, La Mesa. Message-ID: <4p9u0b$is8@news.onramp.net> -- _________________ | ____ ____ | Scot E. Shepherd | Disclaimer: | | __|___|__ | | Director of Operations | Views expressed are my own. | |_|__|_ |__|_| | | | | | | | Scot_Shepherd@suite.com | No information provided | _|__| ____|_ | | here should be considered | | |__|___|__| | | (214)980-9900 voice | usefull or suitable for | |____| |____| | (214)980-1419 fax | ANY purpose. YMMV |_________________| | SUITE SOFTWARE http://www.suite.com/ | O-
From: pascal@localhost (Pascal Thibaudeau) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: HELP!!Unable to load FontPanel Date: 8 Jun 1996 14:28:34 GMT Organization: CRIBX1 , Universite de Bordeaux I , France Message-ID: <4pc2mi$1mm@news.u-bordeaux.fr> Hello, When I try to load the FontPanel (Alt+t) the WM.app crashes. Thanks to help me -- -Pascal Thibaudeau ********************************************************************** E-Mail: pthibaud@frbdx11.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr ( NO NEXTMAIL ) pascal@galileo.slip.u-bordeaux.fr ( Small NEXTMAIL OK ) Powered by NEXTSTEP **********************************************************************
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 10 Jun 1996 04:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4pg7ge$nms@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 150+ ISV company pages - 350+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ============= ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions (formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu) ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 17 Jun 1996 04:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4q2m4e$bv4@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 150+ ISV company pages - 350+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ============= ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions (formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu) ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! Written by: Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com) Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net) Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: stefan.boehringer@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Indexing Kit Date: 20 Jun 1996 07:13:32 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Message-ID: <4qatms$sor@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ladies and gentlemen, I recently started a mission critical app using the indexing kit. I ran into serious problems jeopardizing the whole project: the application frequently crashes during replaceRecord:with: methods sent to IXRecordManager. This seems to happen unless all objects in this recordManager are *direct* subclasses of Object. The default typedStream archiving-methods (read:/write:) are used for serialization. Even if all objects are are *direct* subclasses of Object the 9001 - exception is occasionally raised from inside -replaceRecord:with: with the result that the database is rendered unusable. I could mail a small PB.project that reproduces a crash. We have to eruate the feasability of our IXKit project fast. So please email us wheter there is some hope to get IXKit do its work in a reliable fashion. Thanks in advance. - Stefan Böhringer
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NSNumber in EOModeller broken. Fixed in 4.0? Date: 20 Jun 1996 10:46:25 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4qba61$1da@turbocat.snafu.de> Hi! When I use NSNumber in EOModeller and use the Browser, EOModeller crashs. Is this fixed in 4.0? _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: don@misckit.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Indexing Kit Date: 20 Jun 1996 13:58:56 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <4qblf0$tg@news.xmission.com> References: <4qatms$sor@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> stefan.boehringer@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer) wrote: > [... IXKit crasher ...]. > So please email > us wheter there is some hope to get IXKit do its work in a > reliable fashion. I would like to think that the MiscKit folks will be a resounding success. I see no reason at this point to expect otherwise. :-) Although I've not set up our bug tracking software yet, the following addresses do exist: ixbugs@misckit.com for IXKit bug reports 3dbugs@misckit.com for 3DKit bug reports When the bug tracking stuff is in place, we will put out an announcement in csn.announce. In the meantime, though, you can still use the addresses; you just won't get a tracking number or response sent back automatically until we get the bug tracker up and running. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 24 Jun 1996 04:15:09 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4ql4od$a16@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing portrait on a paper that is wider then high Date: 23 Jun 1996 21:44:28 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4qkdrs$b32@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <DtD4z9.JH9@interpc.de> klaus@cruella.interpc.de (Klaus Bscheid) wrote: > Hi everyone > > I couldn't believe it but I wasn't able to set a PrintInfo where > the width is greater than the height, without flipping automatically > to landscape. After that I have tried to set the orientation > back to portrait but this doesn't work. > > It's the same behavior if you try to do such a thing with the > Format->PageLayout Panel. There is no way to enter a portrait > pagesize which is wider then high. I've run into this too, trying to use an HP DesignJet plotter. The maximum size of a plot is 36 inches wide by 60 inches long. The width is fixed at 36 inches, but the height depends on the size of the image that you send the plotter. If I want to print something that is (say) 34 inches by 8 inches, I'd like that image to be printed 34 inches *wide* by 8 inches *long*. This uses 8 inches of paper. NeXTSTEP printing insists on printing it 8 inches wide by 34 inches high, which uses 34 inches of paper and gives me a lot of wasted space... We probably should BugNeXT about this, but I haven't had the time to yet. For what it's worth, it seems many (but not all) programs on the Mac exhibit the same behavior. They are determined to print the longest dimension of a document along the direction of the longest dimension of the maximum-size plot. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: IAMJYJ@chollian.dacom.co.kr (õ¸®¾È NEWS GROUP ÀÌ¿ëÀÚ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing portrait on a paper that is wider then high Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 25 Jun 1996 09:09:50 GMT Organization: DACOM Internet Message-ID: <4qoacu$8ct@nis.dacom.co.kr> References: <DtD4z9.JH9@interpc.de> <4qkdrs$b32@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn (gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu) wrote: : klaus@cruella.interpc.de (Klaus Bscheid) wrote: : > Hi everyone : > : > I couldn't believe it but I wasn't able to set a PrintInfo where : > the width is greater than the height, without flipping automatically : > to landscape. After that I have tried to set the orientation : > back to portrait but this doesn't work. : > : > It's the same behavior if you try to do such a thing with the : > Format->PageLayout Panel. There is no way to enter a portrait : > pagesize which is wider then high. : I've run into this too, trying to use an HP DesignJet plotter. : The maximum size of a plot is 36 inches wide by 60 inches long. : The width is fixed at 36 inches, but the height depends on the : size of the image that you send the plotter. : If I want to print something that is (say) 34 inches by 8 : inches, I'd like that image to be printed 34 inches *wide* : by 8 inches *long*. This uses 8 inches of paper. NeXTSTEP : printing insists on printing it 8 inches wide by 34 inches : high, which uses 34 inches of paper and gives me a lot of : wasted space... : We probably should BugNeXT about this, but I haven't had : the time to yet. : For what it's worth, it seems many (but not all) programs : on the Mac exhibit the same behavior. They are determined : to print the longest dimension of a document along the : direction of the longest dimension of the maximum-size plot. : --- : Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu : Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) : Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: "Andrew M. Priasmoro" <ampriasm@students.wisc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Sound Blaster 16 Problem. Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:50:44 -0500 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <31D2F424.D97@students.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have a sound blaster 16 (not plug and play), it did not give problems when I played my CD ROM music. But, when it played sound files (au, snd, etc) sometimes it played the sound and sometimes it did not. Does anyone have any pointers or solutions to fix this problem? Is this a bug from the sound blaster 16 driver? I use the driver I obtained from NeXT Answer and I believe it's the recent driver released by NeXT. Andrew.
From: Th.H@bwl.univie.ac.at (Thomas Hoellerer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Help: Sun SS20 + Next 3.3 + FaxModem Date: 28 Jun 1996 14:21:32 GMT Organization: Vienna University, Austria Message-ID: <4r0ppc$1tpo@www.univie.ac.at> Knows anybody how to install a Faxmodem (Zyxel 1496) on a Sparc SS20. I can send Faxes, bur if I receive some, there are only lines and nothing readable. thanks Thomas Hoellerer Th.H@bwl.univie.ac.at -- ********
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs From: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help: Sun SS20 + Next 3.3 + FaxModem Message-ID: <DtrGLw.AC9@nidat.sub.org> Sender: news@nidat.sub.org Cc: Th.H@bwl.univie.ac.at Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <4r0ppc$1tpo@www.univie.ac.at> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 12:13:07 GMT In <4r0ppc$1tpo@www.univie.ac.at> Thomas Hoellerer wrote: > Knows anybody how to install a Faxmodem (Zyxel 1496) on a Sparc SS20. > > I can send Faxes, bur if I receive some, there are only lines and > nothing readable. > Zyxel (matter of factly, all common modems) need a third party driver for FAXing. Use either Jolly's fax driver ot B&W's NXFax (the first is in PD) for this purpose. Both are on Peanuts. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: NTT saitama <multi001@po.infosphere.or.jp> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: (no subject) Date: 30 Jun 1996 04:19:25 GMT Organization: japan Message-ID: <4r4v8d$7ps@news.sphere.ad.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > $B%K%e!<%9%0%k!<%W(J: comp.sys.next.bugs > > * NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet - sanguish@digifix.com (346) > * Re: Printing portrait on a paper that is wider then high - > Garance A Drosehn (36) > o (IC58.>H(J NEWS GROUP(I@L?$BvB(IZ(J (39) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >
From: NTT saitama <multi001@po.infosphere.or.jp> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: (no subject) Date: 30 Jun 1996 04:19:28 GMT Organization: japan Message-ID: <4r4v8g$7q9@news.sphere.ad.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > $B%K%e!<%9%0%k!<%W(J: comp.sys.next.bugs > > * NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet - sanguish@digifix.com (346) > * Re: Printing portrait on a paper that is wider then high - > Garance A Drosehn (36) > o (IC58.>H(J NEWS GROUP(I@L?$BvB(IZ(J (39) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Re: Help: Sun SS20 + Next 3.3 + FaxModem Message-ID: <DttExG.2qy@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology References: <4r0ppc$1tpo@www.univie.ac.at> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:32:04 GMT In article <4r0ppc$1tpo@www.univie.ac.at> Th.H@bwl.univie.ac.at (Thomas Hoellerer) writes: >Knows anybody how to install a Faxmodem (Zyxel 1496) on a Sparc SS20. > >I can send Faxes, bur if I receive some, there are only lines and >nothing readable. > Well, since you can send faxes, I assume you have already installed something like NXfax or Jolly's fax package. The symptom you describe sounds like what I saw when I had a cable that didn't connect the hardware flow control between the serial port and the Zyxel. Out faxes worked fine since the computer was polite in the way that it sent data, but the Zyxel will push data back at the computer faster than can be processed if you don't have the RTS/CTS flow control lines connected. Good luck! Steve -- Steven M. Boker 804-982-5062 (voice/fax) 804-295-0009 (home) boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ Dept. of Psychology, University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA 22903 After 8/1/96: Dept. of Psych., U. of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556
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