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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 1 Jul 1996 04:15:16 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4r7jck$744@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NS Crashed :-( Date: 4 Jul 1996 18:08:45 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4rh1bd$gr@turbocat.snafu.de> Hi! My Intel P100 crashed never in '96 until last monday (I was scrolling a ScrollView) and today (Mail.app checked for mail). It crashed on a 200 Kb NeXTMail. The monitor said: frame 2fc4cf24 called by 150198 args 2fc4f8c 2130490 . . . Memory access exception (1,1,f6e85206) Waiting for remote debugger connection. (Type 'c' to continue 'r' to reboot) The board is a pre-Triton based ASUS with 32 (2*16) MB 70ns FPM RAM. I am using Boot Drivers PS2Keyboard Floppy ISASerialPort EISABus SYM53c8 Intel824X0 PCIBus Drivers: PS2Keyboard at IRQ 1; ports 0x60-0x65 Floppy at IRQ 6; DMA 2; ports 0x3f2-0x3f7 System Serial at IRQ 4; ports 0x3f8-0x3ff System Serial at IRQ 3; ports 0x2f8-0x2ff System Serial at IRQ 5; ports 0x3e8-0x3ef EISABus at IRQ 2; ports 0x00-0x0f 0x20-0x21 0x40-0x4b 0x70-0x71 0x81-0x8F 0x92-0x92 0xc0-0xcf Symbios Logic SCSI controller Intel824X0 PCIBus PS2Mouse at IRQ 12; DECchip 21040 Network Driver SCSI Tape Microsoft Sound System at IRQ 9; DMA 3; ports 0x530-0x537 0x388-0x38b 0x0220-0x22f 0x200-0x207 Port Server Matrox MGA 2064W (2MB) System Parallel at IRQ 7; ports 0x278-0x27f Comments? Help? Thanks. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
From: grehm@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (Georg Rehm) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Trouble booting black hardware :-( Date: 8 Jul 1996 11:50:08 GMT Organization: Universitaet Osnabrueck Message-ID: <4rqslg$iu5@deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de> Hi there, here's the problem (NeXTstation Mono, NS 3.3): whenever I try to boot (that is: pressing "Power on" on the keyboard) my machine one of the following happens: o You can hear the hard drive roaring, the screen stays black, as if it wear broken, nothing happens, I have to pull the mains plug and try again (happens almost every time) o You can hear the hard drive as well and the screen will just turn into a grey'ish tone ... (the NeXTstep standard-grey :-) In this state it's possible to press "Power" again, followed by "Z" (which actually is 'y' on german keyboards); the machine powers off and I can try again o In some cases, there is hard drive activity and the boot window says: "No memory installed, need some working memory" (sp?) ... although there are 20 Megs installed in that machine. Powering off and reboo- ting helps. (There are 4 x 1 MB and 4 x 4 MB in the machine, with the 4 MB - SIMMs consisting of _two_ brands, might be a hint in fixing the problem.) o Once or twice in a month the machine just boots perfectly without any trouble, depends on the moon phase, I think ;-) o What's funny: When I have trouble booting the machine I power it off again. The very next time I try it again (i.e. after 10 seconds or so) it just boots perfectly. ANY help is appreciated, CU, Gg -- Georg Rehm - Wuestenstrasse 33 - 49080 Osnabrueck - Tel: +49 541 9827762 RFC 822: georg@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de georg@ge.org (NeXTMail / MIME ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: brad@instep.bc.ca Subject: Trouble poweing off black h/w Message-ID: <1996Jul8.180651.3452@instep.bc.ca> Sender: usenet@instep.bc.ca Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:06:51 GMT I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a NeXTstation. I can no longer power off properly. I press the power button, or click on the power off button, and it commences syncing the disk, the screen goes blank, and then it just sits there with a greyed out screen and the power still on. I then press Command-~ and press the power button on the keyboard and only then does it power off. What gives? -- Brad Head <brad@instep.bc.ca> __ __o Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. ___ `\<, Atomic Racing Club, Vancouver, BC, Canada -- O/ O
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede) Subject: Re: NS Crashed :-( Message-ID: <Du8KDp.Knr@interpc.de> Sender: usenet@interpc.de Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH References: <sams.836539105@shellx> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:53:48 GMT Samuel G. Streeper writes > dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) writes: > >My Intel P100 crashed never in '96 until last monday (I was scrolling a > >ScrollView) and today (Mail.app checked for mail). > >The board is a pre-Triton based ASUS with 32 (2*16) MB 70ns FPM RAM. > > A Pentium 100 (and 133,166, & 200) all require 60ns memory. > Your 70ns RAM may not have proper data available to latch > by the time it's needed. I agree and confirm. Had the same problem. Switched RAM - everything was fine! Finny problem though. so long, jens ch. gloede
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Trouble poweing off black h/w Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 14:51:33 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <4rtrtc$t6o@news.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <1996Jul8.180651.3452@instep.bc.ca> brad@instep.bc.ca wrote: >I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a NeXTstation. I can no longer power off properly. >I press the power button, or click on the power off button, and it commences >syncing the disk, the screen goes blank, and then it just sits there with a >greyed out screen and the power still on. I then press Command-~ and press the >power button on the keyboard and only then does it power off. >What gives? Stuck inode. [disengage propellerhead mode] Somewhere there's a program that is stuck, or just stubborn, and won't quit when the OS tells it to. (which keeps it's disk image marked as being in use, making the kernel wait for it) Take a look at any changes you made shortly before the hangs started showing up. Past experience is that things that muck with the serial ports are great candidates for this sort of problem. Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Trouble poweing off black h/w Date: 10 Jul 1996 03:33:58 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <4rv8b6$5lb@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <1996Jul8.180651.3452@instep.bc.ca> <4rtrtc$t6o@news.snfc21.pacbell.net> Cc: mpaque@pacbell.net In <4rtrtc$t6o@news.snfc21.pacbell.net> Mike Paquette wrote: > brad@instep.bc.ca wrote: > > >I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a NeXTstation. I can no longer power off properly. > >I press the power button, or click on the power off button, and it commences > >syncing the disk, the screen goes blank, and then it just sits there with a > >greyed out screen and the power still on. I then press Command-~ and press the > >power button on the keyboard and only then does it power off. > > Somewhere there's a program that is stuck, or just stubborn, and won't > quit when the OS tells it to. (which keeps it's disk image marked as > being in use, making the kernel wait for it) > > Take a look at any changes you made shortly before the hangs started > showing up. Past experience is that things that muck with the serial > ports are great candidates for this sort of problem. > I have found that getty on my cube causes this behavior. I replaced it with mgetty and it now shuts off fine. Further, it doesn't seem to have the 7 bit problem that the standard getty exhibits. Just a thought. - Steve --- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Preview.app chokes on A1-sized document Message-ID: <DuAG0s.EuD@euler.han.de> Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:14:52 GMT Hi, Preview.app only displays the lower right portion of my A1-sized PostScript documents! No scrollbars to view it all - nothing. I create a test document with Diagram.app or PasteUp.app - does not seem to matter. Set the Format->Layout to 80 x 60 cm (roughly A1). Create a single rectangle covering most of the page. Print->Preview the document Ouch - Preview.app only displays the lower right portion - no scrollbars. Now tell me my system is hosed! I use Nextstep with builtin DisplayPostScript and its native PostScript Preview application cannot handle a legal ps document? Most disappointing - the final format I am interested in is size A00 ( about 160 x 120 cm). I do not have such a printer but the local university does and this format is quite common among architects - so I am told. Juergen --- Fon +49 511 92455-51 NeXTMail welcome No Mime Fax +49 511 92455-52 = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: overa@fire.sjsu.edu (overa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: HELP! f77 compiler keeps saying "permision denied"..?? Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:32:43 +0800 Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <overa-1107961632430001@physmq1.sjsu.edu> My compiler keeps saying "permision denied" when I want to compile a program or do anything. It is Absoft f77 fo the NeXT. Any ideas? Any help greatly appreciated. me :)
From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HELP! f77 compiler keeps saying "permision denied"..?? Date: 12 Jul 1996 20:49:55 GMT Organization: Private NEXTSTEP site, Germany Message-ID: <4s6dpj$q8v@mimi.in-berlin.de> References: <overa-1107961632430001@physmq1.sjsu.edu> Cc: overa@fire.sjsu.edu In <overa-1107961632430001@physmq1.sjsu.edu> overa wrote: > My compiler keeps saying "permision denied" when I want to compile a > program or do anything. > > It is Absoft f77 fo the NeXT. Any ideas? Sounds like file permission problems? Do you have write permissions in your project folder? Gerald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 397 31 400 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 public key available |
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NS Crashed :-( -- bug found! (par 1.5!) Date: 13 Jul 1996 20:08:54 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4s8vom$9p@turbocat.snafu.de> References: <sams.836539105@shellx> <Du8KDp.Knr@interpc.de> Hello! I remember what I changed -- the parallel driver! Today, Turbocat crashed again and showed me some error messages from the parallel port driver. I am using Par 1.5. It's the best driver (performance, etc) but kills the machine some 2-3 times a month. I hope, NeXT will supply a usable one with 4.0. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Trouble poweing off black h/w Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:02:15 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <AluIEr600iWSI2Jw4O@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <1996Jul8.180651.3452@instep.bc.ca> <4rtrtc$t6o@news.snfc21.pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <4rtrtc$t6o@news.snfc21.pacbell.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.bugs: 9-Jul-96 Re: Trouble poweing off bla.. by Mike Paquette@pacbell.ne [ ... ] > Somewhere there's a program that is stuck, or just stubborn, and won't > quit when the OS tells it to. (which keeps it's disk image marked as > being in use, making the kernel wait for it) > > Take a look at any changes you made shortly before the hangs started > showing up. Past experience is that things that muck with the serial > ports are great candidates for this sort of problem. I've encountered similar problems getting a clean shutdown (specificly, my machine will power off, but it will need to fsck some drives) almost every time anything compiled with 'cc -posix' is running. By the way, does anyone know whether the POSIX file-append bug is present in OPENSTEP 4.0? -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 15 Jul 1996 04:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4scgke$s91@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: HIH Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Buglist Date: 15 Jul 1996 07:49:46 GMT Organization: Taide Net Message-ID: <4sct6q$adm@parabol.taide.net> Hi Does anybody know where I can get Raf S Buglist. An dis it up to date? -- -- Kjell Nilsson - Member of Swedish Object Guild OOPS art HB, Phone +46-31-499713, Fax +46-31-474594 kjell@oops.se - NeXTMail, Mime welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Buglist Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960715193442.19051A-100000@charisma> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:36:14 -0400 References: <4sct6q$adm@parabol.taide.net> To: kjell@oops.se In-Reply-To: <4sct6q$adm@parabol.taide.net> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII KBNS.33.2.rtf.gz aka Known Bugs in NeXTStep (version 33.2) ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/documents/KBNS.33.2.rtf.gz <Shamelessplug>Which is one of NeXT links you can find at http:/www.nerc.com/~luomat/next</Shamelessplug> TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat On 15 Jul 1996, it was written: > Does anybody know where I can get Raf S Buglist. An dis it up to date? > > -- > Kjell Nilsson - Member of Swedish Object Guild > OOPS art HB, Phone +46-31-499713, Fax +46-31-474594 > kjell@oops.se - NeXTMail, Mime welcome
From: wgaboria@iut-lr.univ-lr.fr (wilfrid Gaboriaud) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: outer join Date: 16 Jul 1996 11:11:36 GMT Organization: Universite de La Rochelle Message-ID: <4sftd8$haf@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> I have found the source of the error but has someone a solution ? I have an entity witch contains 2 relationship : the first is an innerJoin the second an LeftOuterJoin so the thrue Query is : SELECT t0.*, t1.field1, t2.field2 FROM table0 t0, table1 t1, OUTER(table2 t2) WHERE (t0.aField = t1.theKey AND t0.aField = t2.theKey) But EOMODELER generate the folowing query : SELECT t0.*, t1.field1, t2.field2 FROM OUTER table0 t0, table1 t1, table2 t2 WHERE (t0.aField = t1.theKey AND t0.aField = t2.theKey) Wilfrid. ====================== wgaboria@iut-lr.univ-lr.fr Service Informatique IUT La Rochelle France
From: ampriasm@students.wisc.edu (Andrew M. Priasmoro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Config.app Problem on Black Hardware. Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:02:05 -0400 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <ampriasm-1707960102050001@f180-175.net.wisc.edu> Hi, Could anyone tell me what to do if my Config.app icon is in question mark? When I tried to execute it, It said that the application is damage. Is there any way to fix this without having to reinstall the OS? Thanks. Andrew. -- Andrew Priasmoro University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Config.app Problem on Black Hardware. Date: 17 Jul 1996 09:17:02 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <4sib2e$g29@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <ampriasm-1707960102050001@f180-175.net.wisc.edu> In-Reply-To: <ampriasm-1707960102050001@f180-175.net.wisc.edu> On 07/17/96, Andrew M. Priasmoro wrote: > Hi, > > Could anyone tell me what to do if my Config.app icon is in question mark? > When I tried to execute it, It said that the application is damage. Is > there any way to fix this without having to reinstall the OS? Thanks. > It's not a bug, it's a feature! :-) You don't need Configure.app on NeXT hardware -- it's only required for those fun hardware setups on Intel. Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: Wim J F van Geloven <wimg@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Soundblaster 16 Value PnP Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:21:58 +0200 Organization: Delft University of Technology, Faculty of Applied Physics Message-ID: <31ED0516.B5F@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a problem installing my Soundblaster value 16 PnP It plays a sound only once after that it only gives a tick I have tried many different drivers. currently the Soundblaster 16 PnP (8 bit DMA) v3.33 and the ISA/EISA bus driver v3.32 (with plug and play enabled). My computer system is a 167 Mhz Pentium with an ASUS motherboard. SCSI CDrom and harddisk. I hope someone has a clue.... Kind Regards Wim van Geloven Delft University of Technology W.J.F.vanGeloven@CTG.TUDELFT.NL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <flexus!rfschtkt@colds.ruca.ua.ac.be> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 96 20:54:48 +0200 From: Raf Schietekat <flexus!rfschtkt@colds.ruca.ua.ac.be> Message-ID: <9607201854.AA06668@flexus.fotek.com> Subject: Re: Buglist Timothy Luoma wrote on 1996-07-15: > KBNS.33.2.rtf.gz aka Known Bugs in NeXTStep (version 33.2) Actually, it's Known Bugs in NeXT Software, now, although there isn't all that much about OpenStep, and nothing yet about WebObjects. I'm (still) using NEXTSTEP_3.2 myself, so... The latest version (3.2) was released on 1996-03-20. Raf Schietekat, RfSchtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be (NeXTmail), Flanders, Belgium If I don't answer: my mail relay can't handle !, % or .uucp, I think *** The year 2000 will be the last year of the 20th century. ***
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Config.app Problem on Black Hardware. Date: 21 Jul 1996 15:20:55 GMT Organization: computerActive Inc Message-ID: <4sthsn$h1m@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <ampriasm-1707960102050001@f180-175.net.wisc.edu> <4sib2e$g29@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford (m.crawford@shef.ac.uk) wrote: : On 07/17/96, Andrew M. Priasmoro wrote: : > Could anyone tell me what to do if my Config.app icon is in question mark? : > When I tried to execute it, It said that the application is damage. Is : > there any way to fix this without having to reinstall the OS? Thanks. : You don't need Configure.app on NeXT hardware -- it's only required for those : fun hardware setups on Intel. The Installer during the OS install is too stupid to not install some auxilliary files in the app wrapper for Configure.app, even though the Configure binary is not installed. --Chris Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst -------------------------------------- computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by | chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad | http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 22 Jul 1996 04:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4suv8e$c8d@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 150+ ISV company pages - 350+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Software, Inc. 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Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com) Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net) Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Do you have Fujitsu DynaMO drive? Date: 23 Jul 1996 22:45:38 -0400 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <4t42oi$9in@news.duke.edu> I have had severe but very sporadic problems with my Fujitsu M2512A DynaMO magneto-optical drive, and wonder if it might be due firmware incompatibility. If you have used a DynaMO drive without trouble on a NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.3 system using an Adaptec 2940 SCSI card, I would be grateful if you could e-mail me the following information: 1. The firmware version number of your DynaMO drive. Get this by typing, as root: root# disk -q /dev/rsd2a FUJITSU M2512A 1314Vˆ root# 2. The firmware version of your Adaptec 2940 SCSI card. This is seen during reboot. The problem I get is that every so often while writing to the MO disk, /usr/adm/messages reports SCSI bus errors such as: Apr 14 23:50:10 pueo mach: sd2: NOT READY; Retrying. Apr 14 23:50:10 pueo mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Read block:0 blockCount:1 Jan 23 23:00:08 pueo mach: sd2: SCSI Bus Violation; Retrying. Jan 23 23:00:08 pueo mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Write block:64112 blockCount:10 Nov 29 21:07:42 pueo mach: a2940_0: Data Overrun on target 2 Nov 29 21:07:42 pueo mach: sd2: DMA Over/Underrun; Retrying. Nov 29 21:07:42 pueo mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Request sense Nov 20 21:27:39 pueo mach: sd2: Illegal request; FATAL. Nov 20 21:27:39 pueo mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Mode Sense Soon after this happens, similar errors get reported on the hard disks on the SCSI bus, and the system crashes. When fsck tries to fix the filesystems, it reports reports MEDIA ERRORS not only on the MO disk, but on the hard disks as well. These are confirmed by low-level Adaptec 2940 tests of the disks. But also, I get the following error when I try to format the MO disk in either DOS or MAC format: /usr/filesystems/mac.fs/mac.util -i sd2 "fujitsu_230" removable -d 2 Request Sense command failed ioctl(SDIOCSRQ): I/O error /usr/filesystems/mac.fs/mac.util -i sd2 "mo_mac" removable Request Sense command failed ioctl(SDIOCSRQ): I/O error Any help would be greatly appreciated. ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), 875-0745 (home), 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <NeXTMail and MIME: altenber@pueo.mhpcc.edu> Web: ¬http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: NEED, CASH, FAST??<a@b.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: It's Here!! Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:47:12 -0700 Organization: Walt Disney Studios Message-ID: <4t5dat$68s@phcs.phcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! I've got some awesome news that I think you need to take two minutes to read if you have ever thought "How could I make some serious cash in a hurry???", or been in serious debt, ready to do almost anything to get the money needed to pay off those bill collectors. So grab a snack, a warm cup of coffee, or a glass of your favorite beverage, get comfortable and listen to this interesting, exciting find! Let me start by saying that I FINALLY FOUND IT! That's right! I found it! And I HATE GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES!! I hate those schemes like multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes, envelope stuffing scams, 900 number scams... the list goes on forever. I have tried every darn get rich quick scheme out there over the past 12 years. I somehow got on mailing lists for people looking to make money (more like 'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!'). Well, when I was a teenager, these claims to 'get me rich quick' sounded irresistible! I would shell out $14.95 here, $29.95 here, and another $49.95 there. I had maxed out my new Circuit City Card AND my Visa...I was desperate for money!! So, I gave them all a chance but failed at every one of them! Maybe they worked for some people, but not for me. Eventually, I just tossed that JUNK MAIL in the trash when I got the mail. I recognized it right away. I can smell a money scam from a mile away these days, SO I THOUGHT....I thought I could sniff out a scam easily. WAS I WRONG!!....I LOVE THE INTERNET!!! I was scanning thru a NEWSGROUP and saw an article stating to GET CASH FAST!! I though..."Here on the Internet?? Well, I'll just have to see what schemes could possible be on the internet." The article described a way to MAIL A ONE DOLLAR BILL TO ONLY FIVE PEOPLE AND MAKE $50, 000 IN CASH WITHIN 4 WEEKS! Well, the more I thought about it, the more I became very curious. Why? Because of the way it worked AND BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY COST ME FIVE DOLLARS (AND FIVE STAMPS), THAT'S ALL I EVER PAY....EVER!! Ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe an tough amount to reach, but it was possible. I knew that I could at least get a return of $1,000 or so. So I did it!! As per the instructions in the article, I mailed out ('snail mail'for you e-mail fanatics) a single dollar bill to each of the five people on the list that was contained in the article. I included a small note, with the dollar, that stated "Please Add Me To Your List." I then removed the first position name of the five names listed and moved everyone up one position, and I put my name in position five of the list. This is how the money starts rolling in! I then took this revised article now with my name on the list and REPOSTED IT ON AS MANY NEWSGROUPS AND LOCAL BULLETIN BOARD MESSAGE AREAS THAT I KNEW. I then waited to watch the money come in...prepared to maybe receive about $1000 to $1500 in cash or so.... But what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!! I knew what they were as soon as I saw the return addresses from people all over the world-Most from the U.S., but some from Canada, even some from Australia! I tell you, THAT WAS EXCITING!! So how much did I get in total return? $1000? $5000? Not even!!! I received a total of $23,343!!! I couldn't believe it!! I now have a brand new black Acura Integra to speak for, due to this!! Now after almost 8 months, I am ready to do it again!!! So maybe it was possible to get $50,000 in cash, I don't know, but IT COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON YOU, THE INDIVIDUAL! You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of! The more postings you achieve will determine how much cash will arrive in your very own mailbox!! It's just too easy to pass up!!! Let's review the reasons why you should do this: The only cost factors are for the five stamps, the 5 envelopes and the 5 one dollar bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (US Postal Service Mail). Then just simply repost the article (WITH YOUR NAME ADDED) to all the newsgroups and local BBS's you can. Then sit back and, (ironically), enjoy walking (you can run if you like! :o ) down your driveway to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!! We all have five dollars to put into such an easy effortless investment with SPECTACULAR REALISTIC RETURNS OF $15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5 weeks! So HOLD OFF ON THOSE LOTTERY NUMBERS FOR TODAY, EAT AT HOME TONIGHT INSTEAD OF TAKEOUT FROM McDONALDS AND INVEST FIVE DOLLARS IN THIS AMAZING MONEY MAKING SYSTEM NOW!!! YOU CAN'T LOSE!! So how do you do it exactly, you ask? I have carefully provided the mostdetailed, yet straightforward instructions on how to easily get this underway and get your cash on its way. SO, ARE YOU READY TO MAKE SOME CASH!!!?? HERE WE GO!!! *** THE LIST OF NAMES IS AT THE END OF THIS ARTICLE. *** OK, Read this carefully. Get a printout of this information, if you like, so you can easily refer to it as often as needed. INSTRUCTIONS: 1. Take a sheet of paper and write on it the following: "Please add my name to your list". This creates a service out of this money making system and thus making it completely legal. You are not just randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar for a legitimate service. Make sure you include your name and address. I assure you that, again, this is completely legal! For a neat little twist, also write what slot their name was in: "You were in slot 3", Just to add a little fun! This is all about having fun and making money at the same time! 2. Now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill , (no checks or money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to the five people listed. The folding of the paper around the bill will insure its arrival to its recipient. THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!! 3. Now listen carefully, here's where you get YOUR MONEY COMING TO YOUR MAILBOX. Look at the list of five people; remove the first name from position one and move everyone on the list up slot one on the list. Position 2 name will now move to the position 1 slot , position 3 will now become position 2, 4 will be be 3, 5 wil be 4. Now put your name, address, zipcode AND COUNTRY in position 5, the bottom position on the list. 4. Now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local bulletin boards' message areas & file section as possible. Give a catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!! Such as: "NEED FAST CASH?, HERE IT IS!" or "NEED CASH TO PAY OFF YOUR DEBTS??", etc. And the more uploads, the more money you will make, and of course, the more money the others on the list will make too. LET'S ALL TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER BY BEING HONEST AND BY PUTTING FORTH 120 PERCENT INTO THIS PROFITABLE & AMAZING SYSTEM!!! You'll reap the benefits, believe me!!! Set a goal for the number of total uploads you'll post, such as 15-20 postings or more! Always have a goal in mind!!! If you can UUE encode the file when uploading, that will make it easier for the poeple to receive it and have it downloaded to their hard drive. That way they get a copy of the article right on their computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from the File menu. Don't alter the file type, leave it as an MS-DOS Text file. The best test is to be able to view this file using Microsoft's Notepad for Windows 3.x or WordPad for Windows '95. If the margins look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the ends of the sentences, you're in business! 5. If you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the BBS, or "POST" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file, tell them who your Internet provider is and PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE GLAD TO HELP. I would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively simple ways to post or upload a file. Just ask for help or look in the help section for 'posting'. I do know that for GNN, you simply select 'POST' then enter a catchy description under the subject box, choose 'ATTACH', selecting 'UUE' and NOT 'TXT', then choose 'Browse' to go look for the file. Find your text file CASH.TXT and click on it and choose 'OK'. Place a one line statement in the main body section of the message post screen. Something like "Download this to read how to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no paybacks!" or whatever. Just make sure it represents its true feasibility, NOT something like..."Get one million dollars flooding in your mailbox in two days!" You'll never get ANY responses! 6. And this is the step I like. JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY LIFE BECAUSE CASH IS ON ITS THE WAY!! Expect to see a little money start to trickle in around 2 weeks, but AT ABOUT WEEKS 3 & 4, THE MONEY STORM WILL HIT YOUR MAILBOX!! All you have to do is take it out of the mailbox and try not to scream too load (outside anyway) when you realize YOU HIT THE BIG TIME AT LAST!! 7. So go PAY OFF YOUR BILLS AND DEBTS and then get that something special you always wanted or buy that special person in your life (or the one you want in your life) a gift they'll never forget. ENJOY LIFE! 8. Now when you get low on this money supply, simply re-activate this file again; Reposting it in the old places where you originally posted and possibly some new places you now know of. Don't ever lose this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need cash. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TOOL THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS RE-USE TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHEN CASH IS NEEDED! 9. (This step added by Charles Reiley). Hello, This is exciting isn't it?! While I'm on the list, just add a note saying "Please include extra money tips" with your name & E-MAIL address, and I will (FOR FREE) send you some neat methods to increase the money you will receive with this plan. Why?...Why not? I'm not a selfish jerk...I like helping out others. E-mail just makes it a touch easier and cheaper, too! After I drop off the list, I can no longer offer you this advice, obviously, but maybe someone else who gets my tips will offer and simply replace my name on this step number 9. Good luck and give this plan your all, it will definitely pay off! Like Mike said, HAVE FUN WITH IT!!! ************************************************************************************* THE NAMES LIST THE NAMES LIST THE NAME LIST ************************************************************************************* * HONESTY IS WHAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL!!! * * 1. John F. Bourgeois * 3043 New Oak Lane * Bowie, MD 20716 * * 2. David Maxwell * 1747 Stonybrook Ln. * APT 103 * Brunswick, OH 44212 * * 3. Daniel Henry * 3122-A Dagger Drive * Tyndall AFB, FL 32403-1204 * * 4. Jack Hartsfield * 1900 North Vine #404 * Los Angeles, California 90068 USA * * 5. John Ocava * 1125 N. Harvard Cir. * South Elgin, IL 60177 USA * ************************************************************************************* NOTE: Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you a dollar and always keep an eye on the local postings of this file... Just to make sure that everyone is playing the game fairly. You know where your name should be..... *** AGAIN, HONESTY IS THE BEST THING WE HAVE GOING FOR US ON THIS PLAN. -Mike Dotson, Boulder, CO *** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the money to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent the 5 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10000! All the lists are re-distributed as soon as the money is received. end of article
From: root@phcs.phcs.com (S00POR UZER) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <4t5dat$68s@phcs.phcs.com> Control: cancel <4t5dat$68s@phcs.phcs.com> Supersedes: <4t5dat$68s@phcs.phcs.com> Date: 24 Jul 1996 16:14:37 -0400 Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc Message-ID: <4t607e$nj0@phcs.phcs.com> SPAM cancelled by jq@phcs.com
From: ampriasm@students.wisc.edu (Andrew M. Priasmoro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NeXT Machine Won't Bootup. Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 23:15:33 -0400 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <ampriasm-2507962315330001@f180-171.net.wisc.edu> Hi, My NeXT machine won't bootup after I tried to install PPP-2.2.0.4.6. Does anyone have pointers how I go to the command interface so that I can restore my original hostconfig and etc. At least I could see the files in etc directory and edit them using vi editor. Thanks in advance. Andrew. -- Andrew Priasmoro University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: sw@dannug.dk (soren wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Config.app Problem on Black Hardware. Date: 24 Jul 1996 11:38:22 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <4t51ve$gmq@danmeasure.dannug.dk> References: <ampriasm-1707960102050001@f180-175.net.wisc.edu> In article <ampriasm-1707960102050001@f180-175.net.wisc.edu> ampriasm@students.wisc.edu (Andrew M. Priasmoro) writes: > Hi, > > Could anyone tell me what to do if my Config.app icon is in question mark? > When I tried to execute it, It said that the application is damage. Is there > any way to fix this without having to reinstall the OS? Thanks. > > Andrew. > > -- > Andrew Priasmoro > University of Wisconsin-Madison Try and check permission, if they are ok, something else is wrong. mv config.app to config.app.old ( as root ) take a new one from your CD-ROM That`s it. soren
From: ampriasm@students.wisc.edu (Andrew M. Priasmoro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Questions about NeXT Mouse. Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:11:30 -0400 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <ampriasm-2607961711300001@f181-036.net.wisc.edu> Hi, My NeXT Mouse works continuously when it is slightly angled, but when it is not angled only the right button works continuously. The left button sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Is this typical behavior for NeXT Mouse or I need a replacement? If I do, where can I purchase a new NeXT Mouse or at least the good one. One thing wierd I notice from its behavior is that when I tried to straightly align the mouse cable, the left mouse button worked great regardless which orientations I positioned the mouse. I was wondering if any of you Nexter have any idea what's wrong with my mouse. I really appreciate your suggestions and thank in advance. Regards, Andrew. -- Andrew Priasmoro University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Config.app Problem on Black Hardware. Date: 29 Jul 1996 07:10:22 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <4tho4u$28l@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <ampriasm-1707960102050001@f180-175.net.wisc.edu> <4t51ve$gmq@danmeasure.dannug.dk> In article <ampriasm-1707960102050001@f180-175.net.wisc.edu> ampriasm@students.wisc.edu (Andrew M. Priasmoro) writes: > Could anyone tell me what to do if my Config.app icon is in question > mark? Configure.app is not needed on black hardware, so the code is not compiled for the m68k architecture. What you see is normal. Configure.app should _not_ be installed on a black NeXT. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Computer Graphics Lab, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany
From: Christopher_Lane@SMI.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: /usr/lib/makewhatis bug Date: 29 Jul 1996 21:12:48 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <4tj9gg$hd3@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <4tbuj7$3le@dropit.pgh.net> Bob Peirce <me@venetia.pgh.pa.us> writes > I just noticed that man pages with a dash (-) in them do not get > handled properly by makewhatis. For example, L-devices comes out: > > L(5) -devices - UUCP device description file > > instead of: > > L-devices (5) - UUCP device description file > > makewhatis is basically a sed script. Does anybody know how to > modify it so it will work correctly? To fix the problem you describe, you could modify the line: -e 's/.TH [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).* \([^-]*\)/\2(\1) /' \ in /usr/lib/makewhatis to be: -e 's/.TH [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).* \(.*\)- /\2(\1) - /' \ instead. (Be careful, there are both spaces and tabs in these lines.) Although this change will fix the whatis entries for C-Threads, L-devices, L-dialcodes & Mach-O, it will however make the entries for libtool, kern_loader and vprintf worse than they already are. It would take a bit more work to cleanly handle all the inconsistent results that /usr/lib/getNAME returns without fixing some of the inconsistencies in the man pages themselves. - Christopher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199607300118.VAA03322@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 21:18:48 -0400 Subject: Re: NeXT Machine Won't Bootup. Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary [ Andrew M. Priasmoro: your email address 'ampriasm@students.wisc.edu' bounced -- TjL ] ampriasm@students.wisc.edu (Andrew M. Priasmoro) on Thu, 25 Jul 1996 wrote: > My NeXT machine won't bootup after I tried to install > PPP-2.2.0.4.6. Does anyone have pointers how I go to the command > interface so that I can restore my original hostconfig and etc. At > least I could see the files in etc directory and edit them using vi > editor. Thanks in advance. get to the ROM monitor and type: bsd -s B-oot S-csi D-evice -Single user you probably need to edit /etc/rc.local and restore from /etc/rc.local.prePPP you can copy /usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig to /etc/hostconfig let me know if I can help, I've made my system unbootable tons of times, including the first time I tried to use PPP :-} TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> <http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Mail.app 3.3 / Enhance 1.3 oddity Date: 30 Jul 1996 08:57:19 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <4tkipf$28g@bignews.shef.ac.uk> I don't know if this oddity is due to EnhanceMail 1.3 -- it's so trivial it's not worth uninstalling etc -- however it's probably worth reporting: Reply to a NeXTMail message -- the article you're replying to is now quoted in the new mail window. Don't click anywhere in the new window, go back to the old and copy some text (Command-c). Now click on the NeXTMail button in the new message window. The old text disappears, and is replaced by a quoted version of the newly-copied text. I think I can understand why this happens, however maybe it shouldn't! :-) Best wishes, mmalc. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Mail.app 3.3 / Enhance 1.3 oddity Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960730084233.19158A-100000@charisma> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 08:48:28 -0400 References: <4tkipf$28g@bignews.shef.ac.uk> To: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4tkipf$28g@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 30 Jul 1996, mmalcolm crawford wrote: > I don't know if this oddity is due to EnhanceMail 1.3 -- it's so trivial it's > not worth uninstalling etc -- however it's probably worth reporting: I would bet that it is EnhanceMail, because one of the (really cool) features of EnhanceMail is reply-quoting of just a section of text (ie: highlight some text in a message and hit reply and just that text will be quoted.) This is a very nice feature for replying to people who have included a lot of text in their reply. > Reply to a NeXTMail message -- the article you're replying to is now quoted > in the new mail window. > > Don't click anywhere in the new window, go back to the old and copy some text > (Command-c). > > Now click on the NeXTMail button in the new message window. The old text > disappears, and is replaced by a quoted version of the newly-copied text. Yup, this repeated for me when I tried the process... However, I hadn't noticed it before. I believe that the Mail.app preference 'Reply in Same Format' should minimize the times when this is a problem, shouldn't it? > I think I can understand why this happens, however maybe it shouldn't! :-) both statements equally true. There are some people who are continuing to work on EnhanceMail since Carl released source code, perhaps one of them will figure out a fix... For those who don't know, 4.0 required a new EnhanceMail bundle (or significant changes to the 3.x version). TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next NeXT Printer Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html
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