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From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Sender: gericom@usa.net Subject: cmsg cancel <75tbh9$gjq$2187@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it> Control: cancel <75tbh9$gjq$2187@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Message-ID: <cancel.75tbh9$gjq$2187@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it> Organization: http://www.msfc.nasa.gov Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:00:41 GMT Canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: pop and smtp for mail3.3 Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <ben-3112981802020001@the2.cogs.com> <HrXi2.2626$B46.4549937@newshog.newsread.com> <3690b7ab.226841286@news.xecu.net> Message-ID: <iifk2.188$Vu6.376570@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 03:03:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 22:03:42 EDT In <3690b7ab.226841286@news.xecu.net> Dallas Kincaid wrote: > Actually there is a POP3 client for NextStep. I compiled one about 8 > months ago. Of course, you will need the developers kit. But it > works. There's none there by default. There are several that you can choose from of course. PopOver, which I mentioned below, is already compiled and tested and works fine. But there's none there by default. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me. AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: RajLamba@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Pent II 300 system 45338 Date: Monday, 04 Jan 1999 21:14:53 -0600 Organization: MegsInet, Inc. - Low Cost, High Performance Internet Services Message-ID: <04019921.1453@aol.com> Hello I have some 36bit 600x1200 scanners that i want to sell. Along with vidoe cards netwoking few other things you can see the list of things i have at http://members.xoom.com/RajLamba/comp.htm copy and paste the address. You are welcome to make an offer to me on any of those prices I will try my best to do whatever i can for you Thank you. Raj FDL
From: asmang@NOSPAMmail.wm.edu (Arun Mangalam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OSX , Objective C & web programming Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 10:17:58 -0500 Organization: College of William & Mary Message-ID: <asmang-0801991017590001@192.168.0.26> References: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net> <1dl8giu.y1eolq1q5f2cwN@ascend-tk-p54.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> <1dl8ws5.7q5xlqski16oN@ascend-tk-p6.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <36951C21.A0AD7C9B@psca.com> <3695c5fd.0@news.guernsey.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Jan 1999 15:18:13 GMT In article <3695c5fd.0@news.guernsey.net>, "Damien Guard" <damien@spam.unwelcome.envytech.co.uk> wrote: > >ONE NOTE OF CLARIFICATION: When one mentions Intel and PPC their are > >two distinct forks in the road regarding Intel. The first that will be > >supported for along time to come is Yellow Box/WebObjects for Windows > >NT. The second is the native release of MacOS X Server for Intel > >Processors. Apple has already said they are committed to releasing > >MacOS X Server 1.0 Customer Release 1 (CR1) on Intel. Now it is their > >perogative to readdress this if it is in their best business interest > >NOT to release it. I am for better or for worse am not too concerned. > >With a world class Server Operating System running on world class PPC > >Hardware at prices Consumers can afford absolutely astounds me. > > Some of us are currently happy with their (Intel) hardware and need to run > some > Windows based apps. > > *However* if Apple release OSX Server on Intel after a few months I may find > that > my switching to Windows reduces as I find OSX alternatives. Eventually (I > am a developer after all) > I may find that I spend all my time in OSX. > > If that became the case then when it was time to upgrade my hardware I'd > have no > reservation about getting a nice fast, good looking blue/white G3 box. > > As it is at the moment I'm not prepared to spend $3000 on a new machine and > $995 on an OS > to find out that in fact it does/doesn't suit me and leave it in a corner > while I plod along on > my Intel box. > > [)amien Why the $3000? Aren't the new machine's base price supposed to be below $2000, somewhere around $1500 I heard. $2500 For the whole deal doesn't sound too bad to me, considering that I get WebObjects and all the rest of YellowBox goodies... I guess everyone to their own. I just hope Apple starts supporting Powerbooks, because those machines are fast...
From: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OSX , Objective C & web programming Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 08 Jan 1999 12:35:14 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics Sender: westin@BRANCUSI Message-ID: <uyandu0q5.fsf@graphics.cornell.edu> References: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net> <1dl8giu.y1eolq1q5f2cwN@ascend-tk-p54.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> <1dl8ws5.7q5xlqski16oN@ascend-tk-p6.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <36951C21.A0AD7C9B@psca.com> <3695c5fd.0@news.guernsey.net> <asmang-0801991017590001@192.168.0.26> asmang@NOSPAMmail.wm.edu (Arun Mangalam) writes: > In article <3695c5fd.0@news.guernsey.net>, "Damien Guard" > <damien@spam.unwelcome.envytech.co.uk> wrote: <snip> > > As it is at the moment I'm not prepared to spend $3000 on a new machine and > > $995 on an OS > > to find out that in fact it does/doesn't suit me and leave it in a corner > > while I plod along on > > my Intel box. > > > > [)amien > > Why the $3000? Aren't the new machine's base price supposed to be below > $2000, somewhere around $1500 I heard. $2500 For the whole deal doesn't > sound too bad to me, considering that I get WebObjects and all the rest of > YellowBox goodies... I guess everyone to their own. I just hope Apple > starts supporting Powerbooks, because those machines are fast... But the point is that $2500 constitutes a real commitment for most of us; if Apple allowed people to run OS/X on their Intel boxes for a much lower price, it might just entice more customers into the camp, possibly increasing Apple hardware sales as well. Especially at currently Intel-only shops; it's probably a lot easier to hide/justify a couple hundred dollars and a disk drive for a dual boot than to buy a whole new box just to be able to demonstrate the wonders of NeXTStep/OpenStep/OS-X. Think of it as the thin end of the wedge. Right now I'm typing this on an NT machine; there would be no problem with management if I decided to load Linux or OS/X on a separate partition, but there's no real chance of replacing it with Apple hardware. -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <3142915339621@digifix.com> Date: 10 Jan 1999 04:45:03 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <6325915944426@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-Sébastien Fortier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Mail-Copies-To: jsfortier@videotron.ca Subject: Network problem on a lan Message-ID: <jsfortier-1001991419150001@modemcable122.93.mtimi.videotron.net> Organization: ProMac Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:19:15 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:19:17 EDT I have a big problem with my Next station color turbo. I would be happy to get a solution. Using the instructions on the peak archive, I configured my Next station to use internet on local network (Instructions I used were made for cable modem). It worked for a while. One morning, I powered up my Next and the boot process hanged at "Starting file service daemons:". I halted the process and the boot continued and stopped again at "Starting Next daemons: inetd" This tiume it didn't stopped, there was just a significant lag. My network services were down. I wiped the Netinfo database (as in the instructions), rebooted, and the problem was gone. Reconfigured the network, and the problem was back.... The problem even show off without my physical network connection. What can I do ? I don't even have the openstep install cd... I would be happy to get one today ;-) ------------------------- Jean-Sebastien Fortier <jsfortier@videotron.ca> Technicien en systèmes Macintosh
From: hocker@odin.egate.net (Matthew Hocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: PPP 2.2 - Authentication? Date: 10 Jan 1999 22:28:08 GMT Organization: E-Gate Communications (egate.net), Toronto, Ontario, Canada Message-ID: <77b9ho$h50$1@baldur.egate.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Jan 1999 22:28:08 GMT I just joined bellatlantic.net, and surprise-surprise, no support for UNIX systems. I used to dial into an ISP which supported a chat-like login, but bellatlantic drops you right into ppp and expects you to authenticate there. My question: how do I set up pppd to authenticate in the ppp session, like windows 98 does? Many thanks. Please email to matt_hocker@xxyahoo.com. (take the xx's out) Matt
From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Network problem on a lan Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:14:31 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <77bc8m$822$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <jsfortier-1001991419150001@modemcable122.93.mtimi.videotron.net> In article <jsfortier-1001991419150001@modemcable122.93.mtimi.videotron.net>, jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-Sébastien Fortier) wrote: > I have a big problem with my Next station color turbo. I would be happy > to get a solution. > > Using the instructions on the peak archive, I configured my Next station > to use internet on local network (Instructions I used were made for cable > modem). It worked for a while. One morning, I powered up my Next and the > boot process hanged at "Starting file service daemons:". I halted the > process and the boot continued and stopped again at "Starting Next > daemons: inetd" This tiume it didn't stopped, there was just a significant > lag. > > My network services were down. > > I wiped the Netinfo database (as in the instructions), rebooted, and the > problem was gone. Reconfigured the network, and the problem was back.... > The problem even show off without my physical network connection. > > What can I do ? I don't even have the openstep install cd... I would be > happy to get one today ;-) Your NetInfo configuration is wrong. The machine probably sleeps trying to find a NetInfo server. Solution (assuming your machine is a standalone machine): Using HostManager go to Local... and make the following changes NetInfo Binding ... Use local domain only Set "Readable only by local net" Hostname ... your machine name should be here (no qualification necessary) NIS Domain Name ... none Internet address ... your machine address Broadcast address ... Default Time Standard ... Ignore network time Netmask ... 255.255.255.0 Router ... None (or your cable modem address if that is your router) Push the "Set" button and reboot. Hope this helps. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: Frank Hale <frankhale@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: PPP 2.2 - Authentication? Date: 11 Jan 1999 00:12:53 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <36994283.DDA44769@worldnet.att.net> References: <77b9ho$h50$1@baldur.egate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matthew Hocker wrote: > > I just joined bellatlantic.net, and surprise-surprise, no support for > UNIX systems. I used to dial into an ISP which supported a chat-like > login, but bellatlantic drops you right into ppp and expects you to authenticate > there. > > My question: how do I set up pppd to authenticate in the ppp session, like > windows 98 does? > > Many thanks. Please email to matt_hocker@xxyahoo.com. (take the xx's out) > > Matt Downgrade your PPP package to 2.2.0 and everything should work fine then. At least it did for me. BellAtlantic.net won't connect with newer versions of PPP, thats why I dumped them yesterday and switched ISP's. I had been trying to get it to work with updated PPP packages for a year with no luck. -- From: Frank Hale Email: frankhale@worldnet.att.net ICQ: 7205161 Homepage: http://members.xoom.com/frankhale/ Jade: http://jade.netpedia.net/
From: beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu (James W. Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 11 Jan 1999 01:40:51 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Keywords: Year 2000 compliant date command I just tried the date command on my NeXT Cube (NS 3.2) and was shocked to discover that # date 0001101923 gives Sat Jan 10 19:23:00 PST 1970 '00' reverts us to 1970? How come? I thought surely a computer that came out in 1989 would have had the Y2K thing figured out! Please tell me what solutions have been worked out. I don't want to have to throw my NeXT away next January 1st as I still have lots of programs that are working just fine for me! Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: PPP 2.2 - Authentication? Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77b9ho$h50$1@baldur.egate.net> Message-ID: <y0fm2.2375$sI6.1822365@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:22:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:22:54 EDT In <77b9ho$h50$1@baldur.egate.net> Matthew Hocker wrote: > My question: how do I set up pppd to authenticate in the ppp session, like > windows 98 does? More than likely they are using PAP for authentication. You make a chat script just like before, except that you leave off everything after the "ogin:" You have to make a /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file and set them up according to the manpage. See http://www.peak.org/next/ppp/ and get the latest binary installer. > Many thanks. Please email to matt_hocker@xxyahoo.com. (take the xx's out) Well you'll either have to provide a working email address or check back for followups. BTW there's really no reason to muck your email address in the BODY of the messages. Spammers take them out of the headers and there's no evidence they take them from the body (which would take too long anyway). TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: Marcel Volkerts <volkerts@kvi.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:00:51 +0000 Organization: KVI Message-ID: <369A1223.C45637A6@kvi.nl> References: <77cbv1$2q1$1@info.service.rug.nl> <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <fYem2.2366$sI6.1822365@newshog.newsread.com> <77cmg3$1t8@uni2f.unige.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit moetteli@citeu.unige.ch wrote: > In Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? comp.sys.next.sysadmin Emile de Kleine <e.de.kleine@med.rug.nl.removethis> writes, > > > luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) wrote: > >>In <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> James W. Beauchamp wrote: > >> > >>> I thought surely a computer that came out in 1989 would have had the > >>> Y2K thing figured out! > >> > > <snip> > >> > >>OpenStep 4.2 wasn't even Y2K compliant, but there are patches for it. > >> > > > > And what about OpenStep 4.0? > > I don't know about all the different versions, but I propose those people to upgrade (shoudn't cost that much any more) Sorry? Shouldn't cost that much? Where did you get that idea? Marcel
From: "Zach Wilkinson" <zachw@email.sjsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: 3.3/intel doesnt't detect ide Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:09:29 -0800 Organization: CSUnet Message-ID: <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> I'm attempting to install 3.3 for Intel on PCI/IDE systems. After it loads the device drivers diskette, it present me with two lists of SCSI controllers. No IDE drivers are available for selection. I've tried three different systems; 430FX chipset, 430TX chipset, and 440BX chipset. All with one HD in the primary/master position, and a CDROM in the secondary/master position. The only time I've seen the IDE driver selections is on a 486DX2-66 / ISA system. It had a 1542CF and no IDE controller. I'm using the exact same boot set each time. TIA
From: "Brent A. Peterson" <\\bap9\\@\\my-dejanews.com\\> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:09:04 -0600 Organization: -- Message-ID: <77dlp1$dq47@nntp.cig.mot.com> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "James W. Beauchamp" wrote: > > I just tried the date command on my NeXT Cube (NS 3.2) and was shocked > to discover that > > # date 0001101923 > There is Y2K version of date avialible at the peak archive, another thing that needs repair is the at commands (at,atq...) As far as I know there is no fixed version avialible I downloaded the BSD source but am getting wierd makefile errors even before i've modified things and dont really know how to fix it up to compile, let alone get around to modifing it. -Bp
From: smithwNOSPAM@tankNO.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 11 Jan 1999 14:49:40 -0700 Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <ygchftxa39n.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <fYem2.2366$sI6.1822365@newshog.newsread.com> Actually, Apple told the SEC last month that they would release a patch for NeXTstep 3.3 in the fall of 1999 to fix any Y2K issues with the OS. Will it happen? -- Bill Smith, BYU mathematics dept. ph. 378-2061, fax 378-3703 email: smithwNOSPAM@NOSPAM.math.byu.edu Remove NOSPAM for legitimate mail
From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 3.3/intel doesnt't detect ide Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:34:12 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <77e1pk$hh9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> In article <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net>, "Zach Wilkinson" <zachw@email.sjsu.edu> wrote: > I'm attempting to install 3.3 for Intel on PCI/IDE systems. After it loads > the device drivers diskette, it present me with two lists of SCSI > controllers. No IDE drivers are available for selection. I've tried three > different systems; 430FX chipset, 430TX chipset, and 440BX chipset. All > with one HD in the primary/master position, and a CDROM in the > secondary/master position. > The only time I've seen the IDE driver selections is on a 486DX2-66 / ISA > system. It had a 1542CF and no IDE controller. > > I'm using the exact same boot set each time. The list of drivers shows all relevant drivers on the floppy disk (and even let you insert another floppy). So if you don't see the IDE drivers, which are on the 3rd page of drivers (use 7 to continue looking at more drivers) then your drivers disk is not the original floppy. I would recommend to download the beta drivers disk image, from NeXTanswers: http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2078.htmld/2078.html since the last version of the EIDE driver is much improved (bus mastering PIIX mode 2 transfers.) Regards. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-Sébastien Fortier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Mail-Copies-To: jsfortier@videotron.ca Subject: Re: Network problem on a lan Message-ID: <jsfortier-1101992324550001@modemcable030.93.mtimi.videotron.net> References: <jsfortier-1001991419150001@modemcable122.93.mtimi.videotron.net> <77bc8m$822$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Organization: ProMac Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:24:55 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:24:59 EDT In article <77bc8m$822$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, rberber@my-dejanews.com wrote: >In article <jsfortier-1001991419150001@modemcable122.93.mtimi.videotron.net>, > jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-Sébastien Fortier) wrote: > >> I have a big problem with my Next station color turbo. I would be happy >> to get a solution. >> >> Using the instructions on the peak archive, I configured my Next station >> to use internet on local network (Instructions I used were made for cable >> modem). It worked for a while. One morning, I powered up my Next and the >> boot process hanged at "Starting file service daemons:". I halted the >> process and the boot continued and stopped again at "Starting Next >> daemons: inetd" This tiume it didn't stopped, there was just a significant >> lag. >> >> My network services were down. >> >> I wiped the Netinfo database (as in the instructions), rebooted, and the >> problem was gone. Reconfigured the network, and the problem was back.... >> The problem even show off without my physical network connection. >> >> What can I do ? I don't even have the openstep install cd... I would be >> happy to get one today ;-) > >Your NetInfo configuration is wrong. The machine probably sleeps trying to >find a NetInfo server. > >Solution (assuming your machine is a standalone machine): > >Using HostManager go to Local... and make the following changes > >NetInfo Binding ... Use local domain only >Set "Readable only by local net" > >Hostname ... your machine name should be here (no qualification necessary) > >NIS Domain Name ... none > >Internet address ... your machine address > >Broadcast address ... Default > >Time Standard ... Ignore network time > >Netmask ... 255.255.255.0 > >Router ... None (or your cable modem address if that is your router) > >Push the "Set" button and reboot. > >Hope this helps. >-- >Rene Berber > >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own I did all that, except for the network time. I'll try it and give you news ------------------------- Jean-Sebastien Fortier <jsfortier@videotron.ca> Technicien en systèmes Macintosh
From: latitude@imaginet.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Looking for EOF 1.1 for nexstep 3.3 Date: 11 Jan 1999 23:07:59 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <77e08f$755$3@news.imaginet.fr> Sender latitude@imaginet.fr I am looking foe EOF 1.1 (Enterprise Objects Framework Release 1.1) if someone still has it please let me know. Thank you
From: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 12 Jan 1999 03:28:08 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics Sender: westin@BRANCUSI Message-ID: <upv8kuc87.fsf@graphics.cornell.edu> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <fYem2.2366$sI6.1822365@newshog.newsread.com> <ygchftxa39n.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me> <8oym2.18546$kR5.23682@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) writes: > In article <ygchftxa39n.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me>, > Dr. William V. Smith <smithwNOSPAM@tankNO.math.byu.edu> wrote: > >Actually, Apple told the SEC last month that they would release > >a patch for NeXTstep 3.3 in the fall of 1999 to fix any Y2K > >issues with the OS. Will it happen? > > In terms of upgrades, I don't think NeXT/Apple is supporting 3.x at all, > any more. From the Apple Form 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on December 23, Certain products acquired from NeXT Software, Inc., including OpenStep and NextStep, are not currently Y2K compliant. The Company intends to develop and make available during the third quarter of fiscal 1999 a software patch intended to allow such products to become Y2K compliant. So they mention NextStep specifically. But who knows? -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 3.3/intel doesnt't detect ide Date: 11 Jan 1999 21:40:30 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <77dr4e$imd$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> In article <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> "Zach Wilkinson" <zachw@email.sjsu.edu> writes: > I'm attempting to install 3.3 for Intel on PCI/IDE systems. After it loads > the device drivers diskette, it present me with two lists of SCSI > controllers. No IDE drivers are available for selection. I've tried three You have to specify a "dummy" scsi driver (the aha-1542 is usually used), THEN load the IDE driver second. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:54:22 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Sender: thomas@news.online.de (thomas) Message-ID: <1999Jan11.235422.1206@news.online.de> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dlp1$dq47@nntp.cig.mot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: \\bap9\\@\\my-dejanews.com\\ In <77dlp1$dq47@nntp.cig.mot.com> "Brent A. Peterson" wrote: > another thing that needs repair is the at commands (at,atq...) Just checked it: The at command works. The atq shows the wrong year, but this is only cosmetical. (This is under NS3.2, m68k) -- Java: Write once, debug anywhere
From: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 11 Jan 1999 22:04:41 GMT Organization: TJP Inc. Message-ID: <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Jan 1999 22:04:41 GMT You (James W. Beauchamp <beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu>) wrote in newsgroup comp.sys.next.sysadmin, on 11 Jan 1999 01:40:51 GMT: > '00' reverts us to 1970? How come? NeXT states in NeXTanswer #2641: [...] "The NeXTSTEP 3.3 operating system is not Year 2000 compliant. NeXTSTEP 3.3 contains known Year 2000 problems, including problems with the date command..." (Note: this can be fixed with the Gnu date available on PEAK) "...and the Preferences application that may make it impossible to set the date on your computer after January 1, 2000." (Note: Only impossible to set the dat from within Preferences.app. With the Gnu date commane, the correct date could be set from the CLI) "There are also known problems with email and with certain Unix utilities such as at, atrun, atq, troff, nroff, and mail." (Note these would be non-fatal errors, and all are probably fixable with Gnu replacements.) This NeXTanswer goes on to say: "One framework in NeXTSTEP 3.3 which performed explicit date-handling was DBKit, the predecessor to Apple's Enterprise Objects Framework. DBKit did not handle dates in a Year 2000-compliant fashion, and therefore any application which makes use of DBKit is likely to experience Year 2000 problems." So... there you have it. not Y2K compliant, but probably close enough with a few fixes. --Chris ************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@winternet.com MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK "Sacred cows make the best hamburger." --Mark Twain
From: dallas@xecu.net (Dallas Kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Message-ID: <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <Xrym2.18548$kR5.26897@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:16:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:17:00 EDT I think at the time, programmers never thought *THEIR* version of software would be carried over to the year 2000. Think of moore's law and how fast technology changes. NextStep was way ahead of it's time in function and that is why it remains today. Dallas On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:29:11 GMT, gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) wrote: >The version of RCS (revision-control system) shipped with 3.2 also >stores dates in 2-digit format. > ><RANT ON> >I can understand the need for 2-digit dates in the 1950's and '60's, >when core memory and disk were precious commodities. But, if I ever found >out that I had hired a programmer to write code in C under Unix (or >even Windows), who produced code in the late-20th century dates in >2-digit format, he'd be out of a job real fast. I can't think of a more >obvious programming idiocy. ></RANT OFF> > >g. > >-- > I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive > not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy >ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 >Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)cirp.org> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
From: windey@amon.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Paul WINDEY) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ADSL for NeXT Hardware? Date: 12 Jan 1999 12:21:51 GMT Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Message-ID: <77feov$hps$1@vishnu.jussieu.fr> References: <75d2n7$3rh$1@eskinews.eskimo.com> <F464vw.KGn@T-FCN.Net> <75o9ga$huc3@nntp.cig.mot.com> <75pnki$5ev@slip.net> <dD_f2.547$rJ2.362@news.rdc1.tx.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit no.spam.please@no.spam.period wrote: > There is a package for dhcp2.0b1pl6 (note that this is a beta) on peak for OpenStep at > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/openstep/mach/apps/utils/networks/ > This is compiled for OpenStep 4.2 (Intel and m68k) only, although the bpf the package installs works on NS 3.3 or OpenStep 4.2 (Intel and m68k). > I tested this with one cablemodem provider that used dhcp and it works fine, but configuring the /etc/dhclient.conf script to work with your particular (ISP) provider can be tricky. > Tim Luoma's page has very clear, detailed instructions on setting Netinfo up for a static ip address in his "articles": > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ > JP > Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): > jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com > NeXTMail/MIME welcome Does anyone knows if it works also fot NS 3.3 ?
From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Andrew Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Looking for EOF 1.1 for nexstep 3.3 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:29:59 GMT Message-ID: <916144199.25318.0.nnrp-11.c30b1c0b@news.demon.co.uk> References: <77e08f$755$3@news.imaginet.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: latitude@imaginet.fr In <77e08f$755$3@news.imaginet.fr> latitude@imaginet.fr wrote: > Sender latitude@imaginet.fr > > I am looking foe EOF 1.1 (Enterprise Objects Framework Release 1.1) if > someone still has it please let me know. Thank you > We still have some shrinkwrapped. -- Regards David Knight | OneStep Solutions Plc | Solutions | | Workstations Innovative Solutions | UK phone: 01702 426400 | Servers For MacOS X, Windows NT | fax: 01702 426420 | Security OPENSTEP and Solaris | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Networks using Yellow Box and | | Maintenance WebObjects technologies | http://www.onestep.co.uk | Support
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/ Originator: gtf@theorem Message-ID: <Xrym2.18548$kR5.26897@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:29:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:29:11 PDT The version of RCS (revision-control system) shipped with 3.2 also stores dates in 2-digit format. <RANT ON> I can understand the need for 2-digit dates in the 1950's and '60's, when core memory and disk were precious commodities. But, if I ever found out that I had hired a programmer to write code in C under Unix (or even Windows), who produced code in the late-20th century dates in 2-digit format, he'd be out of a job real fast. I can't think of a more obvious programming idiocy. </RANT OFF> g. -- I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)cirp.org> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <fYem2.2366$sI6.1822365@newshog.newsread.com> <ygchftxa39n.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me> Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/ Originator: gtf@theorem Message-ID: <8oym2.18546$kR5.23682@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:25:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:25:08 PDT In article <ygchftxa39n.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me>, Dr. William V. Smith <smithwNOSPAM@tankNO.math.byu.edu> wrote: >Actually, Apple told the SEC last month that they would release >a patch for NeXTstep 3.3 in the fall of 1999 to fix any Y2K >issues with the OS. Will it happen? In terms of upgrades, I don't think NeXT/Apple is supporting 3.x at all, any more. g. -- I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)cirp.org> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
From: "Seung-joo Lee" <feelfree@ppp.kornet21.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 3.3/intel doesnt't detect ide Date: 12 Jan 1999 16:42:47 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Message-ID: <77fu27$q9m$2@news.kornet.nm.kr> References: <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: zachw@email.sjsu.edu In <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> "Zach Wilkinson" wrote: > I'm attempting to install 3.3 for Intel on PCI/IDE systems. After it loads > the device drivers diskette, it present me with two lists of SCSI > controllers. No IDE drivers are available for selection. I've tried three > different systems; 430FX chipset, 430TX chipset, and 440BX chipset. All > with one HD in the primary/master position, and a CDROM in the > secondary/master position. You should connect CD-ROM in the Primary/Slave because there is no driver to support dual EIDE, in other words, both Primary and Secondary EIDE port that could be used when installing NEXTSTEP 3.3. <snip> -- "Where there is a will, there is a way" Seung-joo Lee feelfree@ppp.kornet21.net (NeXTmail Prefered!)
From: "Zach Wilkinson" <zachw@email.sjsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: 3.3/intel doesn't detect ide (part 2) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:24:53 -0800 Organization: CSUnet Message-ID: <77g0gj$s2o$1@hades.csu.net> I appreciate everyones responses. I tried the "dummy driver" method, that did give me the IDE choices and I selected the >540MB driver. However, I believe I ran into the problem where the secondary channel is not supported because it asked where was the CD drive. I also tried the beta floppy image. I uncompressed it on a AIX system, wrote it to diskette using rawrite3 on Win95. But at the point where it asks for the drivers diskette, it says something to the affect of "invalid volume label magic" and that it can't read the superblock. When I formated the floppy, the format utility reported that there were zero bad sectors so I don't think it's a bad diskette. However, the uncompress image size was slightly over 1.44MB, maybe the entire image didn't get on the disk. Any thoughts?
Message-ID: <369BA801.F63E5EA0@videotron.ca> From: Pierre-Michel Tremblay <@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Will RDR2 Run On an iMac. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:52:37 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:52:39 EDT Bonjour, I'm interested in knowing if RDR2 will run on my iMac before I try to make the partitionning. If so, what are good tips to know before I dig further? Thanks.
Message-ID: <369BA990.1FAFAF0D@videotron.ca> From: Pierre-Michel Tremblay <@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: iMac with RDR2. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------24D6E4664967AD03258EA681" Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:59:12 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:59:17 EDT This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------24D6E4664967AD03258EA681 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour, I would like to install RDR2 on my iMac. I would like to know if I could do it before I repartition my iMac disk. If so, do you have any good tips I could benefit from? Thanks. PM --------------24D6E4664967AD03258EA681 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name=".vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Pierre-Michel Tremblay Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=".vcf" begin:vcard n:Tremblay;Pierre-Michel tel;fax:514-994-4384 tel;work:514-992-2382 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;5228, ave Casgrain;Montréal;QC;H2T 1W9;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:tremblay_michel@videotron.ca x-mozilla-cpt:;1 fn:Pierre-Michel Tremblay end:vcard --------------24D6E4664967AD03258EA681--
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: iMac with RDR2. Date: 12 Jan 1999 20:17:31 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <77gakr$e7c$1@news.digifix.com> References: <369BA990.1FAFAF0D@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <369BA990.1FAFAF0D@videotron.ca> >I would like to install RDR2 on my iMac. I would like to know if I >could do it before I repartition my iMac disk. If so, do you have any >good tips I could benefit from? Don't bother trying.. RDR2 doesn't install on any of the currently shipping machines. You'll have to wait for CR1 -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> Stepwise - OpenStep/Rhapsody Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: smithwNOSPAM@tankNO.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: iMac with RDR2. Date: 12 Jan 1999 13:54:39 -0700 Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <ygc4spw6wkw.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me> References: <369BA990.1FAFAF0D@videotron.ca> >install RDR2 on imac? No, it won't work. Possibly mosxs, but that is not known yet. -- Bill Smith, BYU mathematics dept. ph. 378-2061, fax 378-3703 email: smithwNOSPAM@NOSPAM.math.byu.edu Remove NOSPAM for legitimate mail
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:40:38 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Sender: thomas@news.online.de (thomas) Message-ID: <1999Jan12.124038.604@news.online.de> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <Xrym2.18548$kR5.26897@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gtf[@]cirp.org In <Xrym2.18548$kR5.26897@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Geoffrey T. Falk wrote: > out that I had hired a programmer to write code in C under Unix (or > even Windows), who produced code in the late-20th century dates in > 2-digit format, he'd be out of a job real fast. I can't think of a more > obvious programming idiocy. > </RANT OFF> "People are idiots" (Scott Adams, author of "Dilbert") There is a lot of software produced in the 80ies and 90ies which is not Y2K compliant. Just to name a few: SAP, Solaris before version 7, Windows-98/NT ..... -- Java: Write once, debug anywhere
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 3.3/intel doesn't detect ide (part 2) Date: 13 Jan 1999 14:48:07 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <77ibn7$2ar$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <77g0gj$s2o$1@hades.csu.net> In article <77g0gj$s2o$1@hades.csu.net> "Zach Wilkinson" <zachw@email.sjsu.edu> writes: > I appreciate everyones responses. > > I tried the "dummy driver" method, that did give me the IDE choices and I > selected the >540MB driver. However, I believe I ran into the problem where > the secondary channel is not supported because it asked where was the CD > drive. that's the old/wrong driver, which only supports channel 1, and NOT ATAPI devices. It won't work. > I also tried the beta floppy image. I uncompressed it on a AIX system, > wrote it to diskette using rawrite3 on Win95. But at the point where it > asks for the drivers diskette, it says something to the affect of > "invalid volume label magic" and that it can't read the superblock. > Any thoughts? Try again with another floppy? Maybe try re-downloading the floppy image? I've never had to do this, because we've always had ample other nextstep/openstep boxes around so that I could easily create driver disks when I needed them. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 3.3/intel doesnt't detect ide Date: 13 Jan 1999 14:52:45 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <77ibvt$2b4$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <77fu27$q9m$2@news.kornet.nm.kr> In article <77fu27$q9m$2@news.kornet.nm.kr> "Seung-joo Lee" <feelfree@ppp.kornet21.net> writes: > In <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> "Zach Wilkinson" wrote: > > > I'm attempting to install 3.3 for Intel on PCI/IDE systems. After it > > loads the device drivers diskette, it present me with two lists of SCSI > > controllers. No IDE drivers are available for selection. I've tried > > three different systems; 430FX chipset, 430TX chipset, and 440BX > > chipset. All with one HD in the primary/master position, and a CDROM > > in the secondary/master position. > You should connect CD-ROM in the Primary/Slave because there is no driver > to support dual EIDE, in other words, both Primary and Secondary EIDE > port that could be used when installing NEXTSTEP 3.3. This is incorrect. There IS a driver that supports dual EIDE, the latest (beta) version from NeXTanswers, version 3.37: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1839.htmld/1839.html Towards the end of the document, I quote: New Driver / Update Description: Use the following installation instructions when installing from a CD-ROM drive connected to the secondary EIDE controller: 1. Select Primary/Secondary(Dual) EIDE and ATAPI Device Controllers as the hard disk driver. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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From: sumit@omni.cc.purdue.edu (Sumitrajit Dhar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Remote mounting removable disk Date: 13 Jan 1999 11:35:02 -0500 Organization: Purdue University Distribution: World Message-ID: <77ihvm$pp0@omni.cc.purdue.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Jan 1999 16:35:01 GMT Hi: I have two B&W NeXT slabs running NS3.3. A syjet drive is mounted on machine A at /dev/sd2a as /b. I want to mount this drive to machine B which is networked to machine A. In fact the other drives on machine A are already nfs mounted on B. Pardon my ignorance here but when I try to mount the removable disk on B using: mount -o rw A:/b /b it returns an error message saying "no permission". What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance, Sumit
From: "Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Multiple NeXT partitions on a single hard drive Organization: R&D Laboratories, Inc. Message-ID: <Wh8n2.8547$kt3.71447@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:32:56 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:32:38 PDT Why can't I create more than one partition on a single hard drive under Openstep 4.2/Mach (Intel)???
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Assigning user rights to directories Date: 13 Jan 1999 23:38:05 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <77jaot$9jd$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <Ej8n2.8548$kt3.71318@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> wrote: > IS there a way through the Workspace Manager to assign directory rights to > users other than the Terminal.app command line? Yup. Try Cmd-4 when you have things selected in the Workspace browser.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Multiple NeXT partitions on a single hard drive Date: 13 Jan 1999 23:42:03 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <77jb0b$9jd$2@news.spacelab.net> References: <Wh8n2.8547$kt3.71447@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> wrote: > Why can't I create more than one partition on a single hard drive under > Openstep 4.2/Mach (Intel)??? Because OPENSTEP, like most other Unixes, can have up to 8 "slices" inside of an FDISK partition. The limitation is mostly because an Intel system needs to find an FDISK partition marked active in order to boot the system; if you are not booting from that drive, you don't have to bother with FDISK versus Unix partition tables.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: "Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Assigning user rights to directories Organization: R&D Laboratories, Inc. Message-ID: <Ej8n2.8548$kt3.71318@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:34:46 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:34:28 PDT IS there a way through the Workspace Manager to assign directory rights to users other than the Terminal.app command line?
From: "Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <Wh8n2.8547$kt3.71447@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> <77jb0b$9jd$2@news.spacelab.net> Subject: Re: Multiple NeXT partitions on a single hard drive Organization: R&D Laboratories, Inc. Message-ID: <9Zan2.8621$kt3.71914@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:35:35 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:35:17 PDT The fact is: i can create multiple partitions on a single hard drive, but I can't get openstep to see them...is there a way around this? I don't want to have to reformat... Current config: 9.1GB Hard drive is cut up as-- NeXTStep partition: 2675MB Free Space: the rest. Charles W. Swiger wrote in message <77jb0b$9jd$2@news.spacelab.net>... >"Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> wrote: >> Why can't I create more than one partition on a single hard drive under >> Openstep 4.2/Mach (Intel)??? > >Because OPENSTEP, like most other Unixes, can have up to 8 "slices" inside of >an FDISK partition. > >The limitation is mostly because an Intel system needs to find an FDISK >partition marked active in order to boot the system; if you are not booting >from that drive, you don't have to bother with FDISK versus Unix partition >tables.... > >-Chuck > > Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. > ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- > You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu (James W. Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 14 Jan 1999 05:02:27 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <Xrym2.18548$kR5.26897@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> I wrote: >> I thought surely a computer that came out in 1989 would have had the Y2K >> thing figured out! luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion wrote: >What? You are kidding right? Dallas Kincaid (dallas@xecu.net) wrote: > NextStep was way ahead of it's time in function and that is why it > remains today. I also would have thought that Steve Jobs, father of the Macintosh (which is said to have been Y2K OK from the start) and also father of the NeXT, would have known all along that Y2K should be a top priority. Mach Unix, from the ivory tower land of Carnegie-Mellon was (is) a highly tauted improved version of Unix. How could these towering minds have overlooked providing this level of generality in the case of the mighty NeXT, while the computer "for the rest of us" was OK all along? Maybe gnu will save us. If anyone gets a truly compliant patch of 3.x going, please let the rest of us know. Jim Beauchamp University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <Xrym2.18548$kR5.26897@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <Icfn2.4304$xq4.1113@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:24:56 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:24:56 PDT Organization: @Home Network In <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> James W. Beauchamp wrote:- > I also would have thought that Steve Jobs, father of the Macintosh - Jef Raskin was the father of the Macintosh, Jobs merely stole the project from him, forcing Raskin out on the eve of the Mac's introduction, thus garnering all the credit/attention for himself. >and also father of the NeXT Jobs is quite gifted at self-promotion, I'm not aware of him ever doing anything in terms of design, other than perhaps picking out logos and color shemes. He has been able to surround himself with talented people through the years and has taken credit for the fruits of their labor. > would have known all along that Y2K should be a top priority. Mach Unix, > from the ivory tower land of Carnegie-Mellon was (is) a highly tauted > improved version of Unix. Actually, Mach isn't unix, Mach is a microkernel. NeXT was a BSD 4.3 based unix utilizing the Mach kernel, a monolithic Mach kernel at that. The Hurd also uses the Mach kernel, as does MOSXS. There are BSD and SVR4 based unices, and a host of unix-like operating systems, like linux, but you need to distinguish between what the difference is between the kernel and the base os. Mach is not unix, it's a kernel.
From: jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-Sébastien Fortier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Mail-Copies-To: jsfortier@videotron.ca Subject: AutoNfsMount Message-ID: <jsfortier-1401990051430001@modemcable030.93.mtimi.videotron.net> Organization: ProMac Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:51:43 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:51:42 EDT When I bootup my NeXT, I keep having the following error Moofo 12H50 autonfsmount: cant't get my address Anyone knows how to remove this message Why does it tells this ? ------------------------- Jean-Sebastien Fortier <jsfortier@videotron.ca> Technicien en systèmes Macintosh
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: AutoNfsMount Date: 14 Jan 1999 15:36:43 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <77l2ub$g2h$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <jsfortier-1401990051430001@modemcable030.93.mtimi.videotron.net> In article <jsfortier-1401990051430001@modemcable030.93.mtimi.videotron.net> jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-S bastien Fortier) writes: > When I bootup my NeXT, I keep having the following error > > Moofo 12H50 autonfsmount: cant't get my address > > > Anyone knows how to remove this message > > Why does it tells this ? It doesn't know it's own hostname. Either configure DNS, or add an entry to NetInfo: /machines/localhost, so that the name key has two entries: localhost <YourRealHostname> -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: "Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <Ej8n2.8548$kt3.71318@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> <77jaot$9jd$1@news.spacelab.net> Subject: Re: Assigning user rights to directories Organization: R&D Laboratories, Inc. Message-ID: <5Yon2.9073$kt3.78014@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:30:08 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:29:53 PDT I'm familiar with that tool... but what if a create a user ('compiler', for instance) and i create a directory as root that i want 'compiler' to have rights to? Charles W. Swiger wrote in message <77jaot$9jd$1@news.spacelab.net>... >"Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> wrote: >> IS there a way through the Workspace Manager to assign directory rights to >> users other than the Terminal.app command line? > >Yup. Try Cmd-4 when you have things selected in the Workspace browser.... > >-Chuck > > Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. > ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- > You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: "Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Openstep Newbie: Telnet Issue Organization: R&D Laboratories, Inc. Message-ID: <i%on2.9074$kt3.77965@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:33:32 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:33:18 PDT I can't telnet to my Openstep 4.2/Mach/Intel server as root, though I can as any other user. the output i get: ============================================== NeXT Mach (nextpii) (ttyp0) login: root root login refused on this terminal. login: ============================================= Thanks for your help... Calvin Mitchell, IS Operations Mgr., R&D Laboratories, Inc. calvin.mitchell@rndlabs.com http://www.rndlabs.com cal_mitc@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/cal_mitc
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 14 Jan 1999 17:28:06 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <77l9f6$d3j$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <Xrym2.18548$kR5.26897@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu (James W. Beauchamp) wrote: [ ... ] > I also would have thought that Steve Jobs, father of the Macintosh (which > is said to have been Y2K OK from the start) and also father of the NeXT, > would have known all along that Y2K should be a top priority. Huh? The first time I remember hearing of Y2K in the sense of "this is a major problem and we need to make sure our systems work" was around '95... > Mach Unix, from the ivory tower land of Carnegie-Mellon was (is) a highly > tauted improved version of Unix. No ivory towers at CMU, unfortunately-- they've always employed architecture alums to design their buildings. Secondly, Mach is a "highly tauted [sic] improved version of the Unix _kernel_". Mach isn't comparible to Unix, and most probably does not have Y2K problems given the way the system tracks time internally (as in, "seconds from epoch"). > How could these towering minds have overlooked providing this level of > generality in the case of the mighty NeXT, while the computer "for the > rest of us" was OK all along? Probably because the MacOS never inherited a 2-digit /bin/date from earlier versions of BSD 4.3 Unix the way NeXT did. There probably isn't too much more to NEXTSTEP's Y2K non-compliance than that, although the ctime() family of calls and Preferences.app (because it depends on /bin/date, IIRC) also at risk. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Multiple NeXT partitions on a single hard drive Date: 14 Jan 1999 17:30:53 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <77l9kd$d3j$2@news.spacelab.net> References: <Wh8n2.8547$kt3.71447@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> <77jb0b$9jd$2@news.spacelab.net> <9Zan2.8621$kt3.71914@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> wrote: > The fact is: i can create multiple partitions on a single hard drive, but > I can't get openstep to see them...is there a way around this? Multiple FDISK partitions? Not as far as I know. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Openstep Newbie: Telnet Issue Date: 14 Jan 1999 17:48:34 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <77lali$d3j$5@news.spacelab.net> References: <i%on2.9074$kt3.77965@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> wrote: >I can't telnet to my Openstep 4.2/Mach/Intel server as root, though I can >as any other user. > >the output i get: > >============================================== >NeXT Mach (nextpii) (ttyp0) > >login: root >root login refused on this terminal. >login: > ============================================= The recommended way is to log in as another user and then su. This gives better accounting and security because of the log message generated by su. However, if you want to log in remotely as root and do not care about security, you can add the "secure" keyword to the various network tty's in the /etc/ttys file. A much better choice would be to install and use ssh & sshd, however. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: J.-U. Thieme <jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Multiple NeXT partitions on a single hard drive Date: 14 Jan 1999 20:43:28 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <77lktg$ofv$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <Wh8n2.8547$kt3.71447@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> <77jb0b$9jd$2@news.spacelab.net> <9Zan2.8621$kt3.71914@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: cal_mitc@pacbell.net In <9Zan2.8621$kt3.71914@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> "Calvin Mitchell" wrote: > The fact is: i can create multiple partitions on a single hard drive, but I > can't get openstep to see them...is there a way around this? > > I don't want to have to reformat... > > Current config: > > 9.1GB Hard drive is cut up as-- > NeXTStep partition: 2675MB > Free Space: the rest. > > Openstep can only use 1 fdisk-partition. You can use the disk-command for partitioning a disk <= 2 GByte. When you install a new OS then the installprogram create x partitions (unix-part.), all smaller then 2 GByte, max. 7 (device /dev/sd0a ../dev/sd0g) * 2 Gbyte = 14 GByte. You can use the /etc/disktab file for modify the default spliting. Here a example : # IBM DDRS 34560W with three partitions IBM DDRS-34560:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#8387:nt#5:ns#218:ss#512:rm#7200:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#2097152:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#2097152:sb#4194304:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#1:ob=space:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD:\ :pc#6291456:sc#2633000:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#32:dc#4096:rc#1:oc=space:\ :ic:tc=4.3BSD: The problem comes, when you will install another operatingsystem on the same harddisk. Then you can only use one partition for OS <= 2 GByte. CIAO JUT -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 58062 - - fax: +49 30 450 58904 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - -------------------------------------------------------------- - "I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no - - problem with their success, they've earned their success - - ...for the most part -- I have a problem with the fact - - that they just make really third-rate products." - - - - Steven Paul Jobs - --------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Assigning user rights to directories Date: 14 Jan 1999 17:40:31 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <77la6f$d3j$4@news.spacelab.net> References: <Ej8n2.8548$kt3.71318@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> <77jaot$9jd$1@news.spacelab.net> <5Yon2.9073$kt3.78014@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> wrote: > I'm familiar with that tool... > > but what if a create a user ('compiler', for instance) and i create a > directory as root that i want 'compiler' to have rights to? Oh...there's no GUI wrapper for chown that I'm familiar with. It would be really easy to write one, though. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: daj@nwu.edu (David A.Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PCNFS Anyone? [I need help!] Date: 14 Jan 1999 22:50:08 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <77lsb0$n7@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got an old NeXTstation with an old Next printer. I also have an old PC (running DOS 3.3) that has sun PCNFS on it. (Bunch of old junk isn't it) I've got all the networking up and going. The problem is that I'm trying to configure the NeXT printer to do screen prints from the PC. I've got the printer mounted as lpt1: and I've got communications but I get postscript errors. Does anyone know of what needs to be done to fix this? I've tried configuring the pcnfs (pc side) as raw and postscript both with no luck. I think I need some sort of filter on the server side but I'm not sure. I know it can be done because many years ago I saw this exact combination (when both were new). The old PC is a propriatary system for data acquisition and the advantage of the old NeXT printers is that their still very fast little devils, thus why I'm trying to put the two together. Thank's in advance, -- David A. Johnson email: daj@nwu.edu Manager Computer Facility and Engineering Phone: (312) 503-0408 Feinberg Research Institute, Fax: (312) 503-0137 Northwestern University HAM call: N9HAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dlingman@netcom.ca (Dan Lingman) Subject: Why Can't I talk to my serial ports? Organization: Digital Matrix Message-ID: <Xusn2.8640$7l6.211047@tor-nn1.netcom.ca> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:29:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:31:51 EDT I've got an intel box running 4.2 U+D. I'm trying to get it to talk PPP to my work, but I can't even get started. I've got a 28.8K external modem (USR sportster) hooked up to com 1. I've followed the steps in the ppp doc, and have added the right entries to /etc/remote. Tip (and cu), both report that I do not have a /dev/cua, which I clearly do. the config tool says it's there, and with the right irq/address range. Why can't the network tools see it? Help? Dan. dlingman@netcom.ca
From: dps96r@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Duncan Simpson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: PPP 2.2 - Authentication? Date: 15 Jan 1999 12:56:24 GMT Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton Message-ID: <77ndto$rph@wapping.ecs.soton.ac.uk> References: <77b9ho$h50$1@baldur.egate.net> In <77b9ho$h50$1@baldur.egate.net> hocker@odin.egate.net (Matthew Hocker) writes: >I just joined bellatlantic.net, and surprise-surprise, no support for >UNIX systems. I used to dial into an ISP which supported a chat-like >login, but bellatlantic drops you right into ppp and expects you to authenticate >there. >My question: how do I set up pppd to authenticate in the ppp session, like >windows 98 does? Wait for CONNECT from then modem and then authenticate yourself using PAP. CHAP is better but clues about its existance and support could be lacking from their server software. (This might be because not all versions of windows can rise to that level of standards compliance and security). I have done this and it worked for me. Recently the service changed phone numbers and now uses Livingsdton portmasters which want a user name in respone to [Ll]ogin: and corresponding password in response to [Pp]assword: which my chat script supplies. After that they will happily speak LCP, CCP and IPCP to pppd on your linux box. Duncan (-:
From: "Steve Biskis" <mlx@san.rr.com> Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:34:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 05:34:00 PDT Organization: TWC Road Runner, San Diego, CA Hello all, Well, I certainly agree. I've read the one-pager from Apple concerning the NON-Y2K compliance of NeXTStep. I've sent them several e-mails asking for more detail and even offering assistance. (just for effect, I vigorously doubt they would actually require it) They do NOT respond. I guess that the purpose of Apple's NeXTStep Y2K page is to sell OpenStep and not to help us NeXTStep 3.3 users/developers. If I were you I wouldn't be as concerned with an 1989 OS (NeXTStep) not being Y2K compliant as I would with a late-90's OS (OpenStep). They still needed to create a Y2K patch for it !!! Not too smart. Short-sighted is Apple's last name now that NeXT has married them, its NeXT's as well !!! Well, I sifted some clues from Apple's web site (clues they NEVER intended) and was able to patch my Preferences App for both m68K and intel in one afternoon DESPITE them. I did this primarily with Gnu sources. I e-mailed them about my success and was again greeted with silence. I guess I don't mind the way NeXT/Apple continues get away with selling Gnu copyleft software as much as the way they insist on overtly breaking the very spirit on which it was founded. If you solve the Preferences patch as I did, you'll see exactly what I mean. Anyway, I can't help but figure that it would be a small matter for Apple to offer a Y2K patch for NeXTStep now that they've got one for OpenStep. With the understanding that your 3rd party Apps are up for grabs. It seems that the Y2K problems in the OS stem from the 2-digitness inherent in the mighty old Gnu unix utilities (date,atq,mail,etc) redeployed by NeXT long ago. They simply pillaged these sources and were not even motivated enough to make the Y2K modifications to add some value. i.e. put something back. They waited till now - using it as a migration stick. And that my friends is the ultimate irony - for NeXTStep users. Being forced into spending money to upgrade a commercial product because of modifications made to FREE SOFTWARE components within it !!! I'm not sure how many of us still cling to NS3.3 but I gotta believe that if there was enough bitching a patch might just pop-up out of nowhere. I'm so pissed at Apple right now that the only way I'll make my Preferences patch available is for a PIRATED copy of OPENSTEP 4.2 User&Developer. Its important that its PIRATED - not original, the CDs burned so that no $ were spent with Apple whatsoever !!! OK, just kidding, its free for the asking. ;} Steve B. mlx@san.rr.com James W. Beauchamp <beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote in article <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>... > I just tried the date command on my NeXT Cube (NS 3.2) and was shocked > to discover that > > # date 0001101923 > > gives Sat Jan 10 19:23:00 PST 1970 > > '00' reverts us to 1970? How come? > > I thought surely a computer that came out in 1989 would have had the Y2K > thing figured out! > > Please tell me what solutions have been worked out. I don't want to have > to throw my NeXT away next January 1st as I still have lots of programs > that are working just fine for me! > > Jim Beauchamp > j-beauch@uiuc.edu >
Message-ID: <369E691A.9FE75D95@mediaone.net> From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <liberty4all@mediaone.net> Organization: Guess who?! ;-) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Looking for EOF 1.1 for nexstep 3.3 References: <77e08f$755$3@news.imaginet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:09:36 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:06:28 CDT I have a copy for sale, and it's listed in comp.sys.next.marketplace -Eric latitude@imaginet.fr wrote: > > Sender latitude@imaginet.fr > > I am looking foe EOF 1.1 (Enterprise Objects Framework Release 1.1) if > someone still has it please let me know. Thank you
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Why Can't I talk to my serial ports? Date: 15 Jan 1999 17:16:38 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <77nt5m$if0$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> References: <Xusn2.8640$7l6.211047@tor-nn1.netcom.ca> NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jan 1999 17:16:38 GMT dlingman@netcom.ca (Dan Lingman) writes: > /etc/remote. Tip (and cu), both report that I do not have a /dev/cua, which >I clearly do. I suspect you clearly *dont* - try using ls to see if that file exists. If the device is there but the file isn't then you need to isnatll the TTY port server (under misc) which causes the serial devices to appear as files in /dev -bat.
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:37:34 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Sender: thomas@news.online.de (thomas) Message-ID: <1999Jan15.173734.391@news.online.de> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: mlx@san.rr.com In <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> "Steve Biskis" wrote: > > It seems that the Y2K problems in the OS stem from the 2-digitness > inherent in the mighty old Gnu unix utilities (date,atq,mail,etc) > redeployed No, these are not GNU utils, they are utils from old BSD sources. And except for the date command, the other commands still work after 2000. atq prints a funny date (I think it was 1910), but who really cares ? -- Java: Write once, debug anywhere
From: "Steve Biskis" <mlx@san.rr.com> Subject: NS3.3 Y2K Preferences Patch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Message-ID: <01be40c9$677222d0$080216c0@newt> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:55:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:55:34 PDT Organization: TWC Road Runner, San Diego, CA Hello All, There has been sufficient interest to the point where I'd better post this: Patch for Preferences under NeXTSTEP 3.3 I modified the Gnu sh-utils-1.16 date source to recognize Preference's "proprietary" set command format. date automatically differentiates the Prefs call from the standard set format so that all the other options should still work as advertised by --usage. Here's what to do: 1> Make sure that you are root . 2> cd to /usr/lib/Preferences . 3> PLEASE backup the date utility that is now there by say, mv date.Y1.9K or something . 4> Now copy the new date utility to /usr/lib/Preferences and watch Preferences forge ahead into the future. 5> Don't forget to replace the one in /bin as well ... I haven't messed around with any of the other problem utilities. With the possible exception of nroff/troff, I don't use any of them directly. I'm not at all sure how problematic they could prove to be in their current state. But what I'm most concerned about is what may still lay undiscovered due to lack of interest on Apple's part. I'm guessing that the only problems mentioned for NeXTSTEP are those that were found while scurrying to rescue OpenStep !!! Maybe there are no additional NS-specific problems to worry about but due to Apple's lack of support - who knows? If anybody out there discovers any new NS3.3 Y2K problems or solutions PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE respond in kind. Lets not get beat by this - we've still got time !!! da bisk P.S. 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From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 15 Jan 1999 20:36:55 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <77o8t7$9ti$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> <1999Jan15.173734.391@news.online.de> Thomas F. Unke (thf00@hotmail.com) wrote: : In <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> "Steve Biskis" wrote: : > : > It seems that the Y2K problems in the OS stem from the 2-digitness : > inherent in the mighty old Gnu unix utilities (date,atq,mail,etc) : > redeployed : No, these are not GNU utils, they are utils from old BSD sources. And except : for the date command, the other commands still work after 2000. atq prints a : funny date (I think it was 1910), but who really cares ? Does anybody know something about rdate? A server running "in the future' is needed? --mj
From: dob@mrd3.mmm.ucar.edu (David Blanchard,,,) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 15 Jan 1999 20:54:10 GMT Organization: NOAA/NSSL, Boulder, Colorado Message-ID: <77o9ti$gf6$1@ncar.ucar.edu> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> <1999Jan15.173734.391@news.online.de> <77o8t7$9ti$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <77o8t7$9ti$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Michal Jaegermann <michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca> wrote: > >Does anybody know something about rdate? A server running "in the >future' is needed? Try $rdate y2k-test.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov It will give you the correct month, day, hour, and minute, but the year is +2 years forward. -db- -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | David Blanchard NOAA/NSSL & OU/CIMMS Boulder, Colorado | | blanch@ucar.edu http://mrd3.nssl.ucar.edu/~dob/www/ | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: "Brent A. Peterson" <\\bap9\\@\\my-dejanews.com\\> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:39:43 -0600 Organization: -- Message-ID: <77o92f$pgk3@nntp.cig.mot.com> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> <1999Jan15.173734.391@news.online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Thomas F. Unke" wrote: > > In <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> "Steve Biskis" wrote: > > > > > It seems that the Y2K problems in the OS stem from the 2-digitness > > inherent in the mighty old Gnu unix utilities (date,atq,mail,etc) > > redeployed > > No, these are not GNU utils, they are utils from old BSD sources. And except > for the date command, the other commands still work after 2000. atq prints a > funny date (I think it was 1910), but who really cares ? does it only print it but use the correct date? I care since I do use at, if it works I can live with whatever it may print in atq
From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> <1999Jan15.173734.391@news.online.de> Message-ID: <PrOn2.15465$rJ2.3020@news.rdc1.tx.home.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:30:23 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:30:23 PDT Organization: @Home Network Any ideas where to find source for y2k-compliant at, atq, atrun? Thanks, JP -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome
From: "Steve Biskis" <mlx@san.rr.com> Subject: Re: NS3.3 Y2K Preferences Patch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer References: <01be40c9$677222d0$080216c0@newt> Message-ID: <01be40d0$3751b730$080216c0@newt> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:44:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:44:07 PDT Organization: TWC Road Runner, San Diego, CA Sorry, I neglected to state that this binary version of date is DUAL-FAT: i386 & m68k arch's Take Care, da bisk
From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> Message-ID: <DcPn2.15871$rJ2.3020@news.rdc1.tx.home.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:22:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:22:27 PDT Organization: @Home Network Here's a strange thing that happened while testing my NS 3.3 disk for Y2K: I replaced /usr/lib/Preferences/date with the one from peak, and then used Preferences.app to test it (set the date to 31DEC99 and let it roll through to Jan 01 2000, worked fine). Then I set the date back to 15 Jan 98, and about two minutes later rebooted, (but this time booted the machine with a disk running OS 4.2) and logged in. The date was still Jan 01 2000. So I used Preferences.app to reset the date back to Jan 15 1998. A couple minutes later I moved a few files to the recycler. This worked (recycler icon arrows rotated, and the files moved to .NextTrash), but no dot appeared in the reycler icon, and the Workspace menu item Files-->Empty Recycler was grayed out and did not work, even though the files were in .NextTrash. I logged out and logged back in (no reboot, just log out/in), and everything worked fine: on login the recycler icon had the dot, and the Empty Recycler menu item was dark text. Any ideas? Thanks, JP -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome
From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:04:49 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <77ohia$53c$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <Xrym2.18548$kR5.26897@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77l9f6$d3j$1@news.spacelab.net> I set my (Black Hardware) clock to 30 seconds to midnight Dec 31, 1999 last year and it just flipped up to 2000. Some of the software may be buggy but my guess is that the NeXT's are y2k compliant. The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Openstep Newbie: Telnet Issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <i%on2.9074$kt3.77965@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> <77lali$d3j$5@news.spacelab.net> Message-ID: <bzQn2.16629$rJ2.3020@news.rdc1.tx.home.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:54:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:54:47 PDT Organization: @Home Network Where are sources for ssh & sshd? Thanks, JP -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Openstep Newbie: Telnet Issue Date: 16 Jan 1999 00:59:12 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <77oo90$kqp$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <i%on2.9074$kt3.77965@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> <77lali$d3j$5@news.spacelab.net> <bzQn2.16629$rJ2.3020@news.rdc1.tx.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit no.spam.please@no.spam.period wrote: >Where are sources for ssh & sshd? ftp://ftp.cs.hut.fi/pub/ssh Note that ssh-1.x is freely available for Unix (well, pretty much, I don't think you can bundle it with a commercial product) but ssh-2 requires licensing for commercial usage. There's a web site at www.ssh.fi offering lots of information, FAQs, and support and commerical usage licensing for ssh-2, if you want to buy it as a product. Also, people in the USA will probably need to compile using the RSAREF library because of RSA's patents, which then involves it's own licensing implications for commercial vs. non-commercial usage. And, of course, you have to watch out for the ITAR export regulations (or whatever the current incarnation of them is called nowadays) on strong encryption since ssh by default uses something like 768 to 1024 bit cryptography. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: mamax@mail.com <mamax@mail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: test Date: 16 Jan 99 08:28:23 +-0300 Organization: Online Resource Center Message-ID: <8d50.7727.5a@trhwr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 1999 05:28:26 GMT content-length: 21 http://lba.da.ru/
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:33:55 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Message-ID: <1999Jan16.013355.1539@news.online.de> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> <1999Jan15.173734.391@news.online.de> <77o92f$pgk3@nntp.cig.mot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 1999 10:39:14 GMT Cc: \\bap9\\@\\my-dejanews.com\\ In <77o92f$pgk3@nntp.cig.mot.com> "Brent A. Peterson" wrote: > > for the date command, the other commands still work after 2000. atq prints a > > funny date (I think it was 1910), but who really cares ? > > does it only print it but use the correct date? "atq" prints the wrong year. "at" works still fine (have tested it recently). -- Java: Write once, debug anywhere
From: "asb67" <asb67@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: which nwsgrp do I need Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:58:03 +0100 Organization: World Access / Planet Internet Message-ID: <77pv8o$f8u$2@reader2.wxs.nl> NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 1999 12:04:40 GMT which nwsgrp do I need for Info about financial adminstration software? Thanks JL
From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NetInfo Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:13:33 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <77oi2l$5bu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> In more then one vain attempt to mout the files on one of my NeXT computers as files on my other NeXT I have NetInfo has locked me out of my root directory or mounted the root device as read only or some other very rude thing. Can I disablt NetInfo and just run NFS? If so is there more to mounting the remote filesystems then entering the host in the hosts file and using NFSManger to mount the files other computer's files. Any thoughts? Jon The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: Sharon Palmer <palmer.74@osu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:08:41 +0000 Organization: WOSU Message-ID: <36A0E3B5.327@osu.edu> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <Xrym2.18548$kR5.26897@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77l9f6$d3j$1@news.spacelab.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Charles W. Swiger wrote: > > Huh? The first time I remember hearing of Y2K in the sense of "this is a > major problem and we need to make sure our systems work" was around '95... Lots of people are just short sighted and want to believe that everyone else is short sighted too. My first programming job was in '75, and we added a pivot date to handle centuries in all the code we touched. But then one program I rewrote, the only existing listing was older than I was - last compiled in '52 no less. It had been though two source conversions and had holes patched in the object deck. Sharon Palmer
From: pekeler@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Pasteboard Problem Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:35:42 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <77rpau$ndc$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Hi, I have a standalone OS4.2/Intel machine which is running fine. I set up a new user account for a relative who's a complete computer newbie. After several weeks of working with her account there appears a problem with the pasteboard server so that drag&drop and most applications refuse to launch anymore. The other user accounts are still working correctly. When the user with the broken account logs in she gets the following console output (clips): Dec 29 21:22:05 Workspace[244]: *** Error connecting to pasteboard: -102 Dec 29 21:22:06 Workspace[244]: *** Error connecting to pasteboard: -102 Dec 29 21:24:04 luck Mail[246]: An uncaught exception was raised Dec 29 21:24:04 luck Mail[246]: App Kit: Pasteboard Mach messaging error #-203, in (null pointer) Dec 29 21:26:07 Solitaire[435] AppKit Error: Can't connect to pbs. Maybe Public Window Server is not enabled on remote host? Also note: you can't NSHost 4.X apps to 3.X systems. Dec 29 21:26:16 luck Mail[438]: Assertion failed: App Kit error: Error messaging drag service Dec 29 21:35:31 Workspace[244]: *** Error connecting to pasteboard: -102 Dec 29 21:35:31 luck WM[244]: App Kit: Pasteboard Mach messaging error #-102, in _NXGetSession I have no idea what going on here, what caused this problem and how it could be fixed. The user is unable to tell me what she did last before the problem appeared. I cleaned the NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP defaults database of the user and set all files in the user's home read and writeable to the user. But these shots into the dark didn't help so I deleted the user and recreated it. Now, after several weeks the same problem appears again for the same account. Any ideas? Thanks, Christian -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <6325915944426@digifix.com> Date: 17 Jan 1999 04:45:19 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <306916549240@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: [Q] I can't send email on my NeXTcomputer Date: 17 Jan 1999 13:10:30 GMT Organization: ppaiNews (http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai) Message-ID: <77sng6$jan$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I can't send email on my NeXTcomputer. But I can get any email also NeXTmail. As soon as send email on Mail.app I got following Returned mail: ============================================== Date: Sun, 17 Jan 99 17:52:52 +0900 From: NeXT Mail Agent <Mailer-Agent> Subject: Returned mail: Remote protocol error To: root ----- Transcript of session follows ----- While connected to soback.kornet.nm.kr: >>> MAIL From:<root@mycomputer> <<< 550 <root@mycomputer>... invalid host name mycomputer 554 ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr... 554 Remote protocol error ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: <root> Received: by mycomputer.kornet.nm.kr (NX5.67f/NX3.0S) id AA00645; Sun, 17 Jan 99 17:52:56 +0900 Message-Id: <9901170852.AA00645@mycomputer.kornet.nm.kr> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: application/x-nextmail Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3J v130.3) X-Image-Url: http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/jpg/me2.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3J (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.130.3) Sender: Operator <root> From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:52:52 +0900 To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Subject: test1 test ============================================== Somebody has know this kind problem? Any command help me. Thanx, younghonn KIL a.k.a, ppai. ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <8d50.7727.5a@trhwr> ignore no reply Control: cancel <8d50.7727.5a@trhwr> Message-ID: <cancel.8d50.7727.5a@trhwr> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:39:22 +0000 Sender: mamax@mail.com <mamax@mail.com> From: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk Organization: Annihilator v0.3 Spam (EMP) cancelled. Cancel ID: !>"_7`XAE1YEL(N29WK+ZC40[XP^4<5.E>"[PI>J^QIE0!^\;H'U?L40
From: Jonathan Katz <jkatz@cpio.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Fast clock on mono slab? Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:59:56 GMT Organization: InterNex Information Services 1-800-595-3333 Message-ID: <77tbvc$biq@masters0.InterNex.Net> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971102 (UNIX) (OpenBSD/2.4 (i386)) Howdy! The clock on my mono slab is quite quick. After resetting the time two days ago, and a few power up/downs, I find that it is now over 35 minutes fast. What's broken? Thanks! -Jon -- Jonathan Katz -- jkatz@cpio.net. -- CEO CPIO Networks -- http://www.cpio.net ---- http://www.openbsd.org -- "Your body is a temple. It is also your dance hall, your bowling alley, and your pizza parlor."
From: John Riccardi <riccardi@mandelbrot.acis.vanderbilt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: get around EPROM password Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:05:38 -0600 Organization: Vanderbilt Univeristy usenet news server Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990117230257.6590B-100000@mandelbrot> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 1999 05:05:39 GMT I bought two ColorTurbo slabs at a NASA surplus auction - $60 each including monitor, mouse & keyboard. I don't know *any* of the passwords and I was wondering if anyone knew how I can reset the EPROM password so I can boot from other media and reinstall Thanks John =============================================================================== John W. Riccardi | UNIX Systems Administrator | Vanderbilt University ACIS riccardi@mandelbrot.acis.vanderbilt.edu | 615/343-7760 If Micro$oft is the answer, then it must have been a stupid question.
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:32:39 GMT Organization: R&A Message-ID: <F5q3uF.E01@RnA.nl> NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 1999 06:34:08 GMT I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. "Your io is pretty std" -- Larry Wall
From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Andrew Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:11:36 GMT Message-ID: <916654296.22458.0.nnrp-02.c30b1c0b@news.demon.co.uk> References: <F5q3uF.E01@RnA.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl In <F5q3uF.E01@RnA.nl> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote: > I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better > newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? Umm, RadicalNews. Try http://www.radical.com/ -- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [Q] I can't send email on my NeXTcomputer Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:10:35 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <77vpub$5tn$2@news.spacelab.net> References: <77sng6$jan$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr wrote: >Hello, >I can't send email on my NeXTcomputer. >But I can get any email also NeXTmail. > >As soon as send email on Mail.app I got following Returned mail: > >============================================== >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 99 17:52:52 +0900 >From: NeXT Mail Agent>Subject: Returned mail: Remote protocol error >To: root > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >While connected to soback.kornet.nm.kr: >>>> MAIL From:<root@mycomputer> ><<< 550 <root@mycomputer>... invalid host name mycomputer >554 ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr... 554 Remote protocol error Adjust /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf so that the mail system returns a valid hostname. Possibly the following might be correct: # set domain and canonical name Dmkornet.nm.kr Dwmycomputer Dj$w.$m -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:35:37 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <77vrd9$644$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <Xrym2.18548$kR5.26897@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77l9f6$d3j$1@news.spacelab.net> <36A0E3B5.327@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sharon Palmer <palmer.74@osu.edu> wrote: >Charles W. Swiger wrote: >> >> Huh? The first time I remember hearing of Y2K in the sense of "this is >> a major problem and we need to make sure our systems work" was around >> '95... > > Lots of people are just short sighted and want to believe that everyone > else is short sighted too. I'm not quite sure who that remark was directed towards. As far as I can tell, the people who wrote NEXTSTEP were not responsible for creating a Y2K problem (with the possible exception of Preferences.app)...they just inherited minor problems from BSD 4.3. NSDate and related functionality from Foundation seem to handle the problem quite well. If you want to slam whoever wrote the 2-digit /bin/date for being short-sighted, fine. And yeah, the BSD-layer people at NeXT who did the system integration did not take adequate care to ship a Y2K-compliant /bin/date. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: Larry Gadallah <larry@gadallah.com> Subject: Re: Esoteric OD question Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <36a19388.0@news.cadvision.com> <36A265BA.FD6FCC89@ncal.verio.com> Organization: 796001 Alberta Limited User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980818 ("Laura") (UNIX) (OpenBSD/2.3 (i386)) Message-ID: <36a381e7.0@news.cadvision.com> Date: 18 Jan 1999 11:48:07 -0700 Mike Paquette <mpaque@ncal.verio.com> wrote: > Larry Gadallah wrote: >> Does anyone know what the little fuse-like doohickey on the lower >> "deck" of the OD is? It looks like a instrumentation fuse, but flat > That's an operating hours recording device. There's a drop of > electrolyte in a mercury column. As an electric current passes through > the device (small, in microamps) the mercury gradually is electrolyzed > away on one side of the droplet, and precipitates out on the other, > effectively moving the droplet along the mercury column after several > thousand hours. > Your motor may indeed be shutting down on overtemperature. That's done > by the voltage regulator on one of the drive's PC boards. The drive has > to run in the case with full air flow across it to avoid the problem. > Check for a clogged filter or disconnected fan. > Mike Paquette Very cool, even if the drive isn't :-(. I am buffaloed by my problem. My original drive worked OK for 4 or 5 years, and now when I put in a disk, the motor spins up, and when the head goes to calibrate or seek, all there is is a sharp "click, click, click" instead of the more familiar "thunk, thunk, thunk" (technical, eh?). I bought another drive and after an hour or so, it began exhibiting the same problems. Now I've bought a third drive which seems to have failed, although in a different mode. I installed it , checked it out thoroughly with the diagnostics boot floppy, booted the OS and began recataloging my disks. 2/3 of the way through the second disk, the drive began to timeout and reset, but I could hear the motor struggling to get up to speed. It almost sounded like the power to the motor was becoming intermittent. Eventually the motor stopped altogether, and even after a couple of hours to cool, it still doesn't work. I'm getting to the point where I'm wondering if there's something wrong with the interface that keeps smoking these drives. I'm a little hesitant to put another one in, in case it blows too. Each time I changed drives, I've cleaned out the dust, washed the dust filter, checked the power supply voltages under load, etc. Is there any source of more detailed service information for these drives, depot level service, or even a collection of anecdotal data regarding keeping these old clunkers running? -- Larry Gadallah, VE6VQ larry@gadallah.com Calgary, Alberta www.gadallah.com/~larry Key fingerprint = D6 79 5D 9D 41 27 74 03 68 FD D7 F3 86 68 EB A5
From: "Andre Lalonde" <info@scribex.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <F5q3uF.E01@RnA.nl> Subject: Re: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Organization: Scribex Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <rkNo2.38$V3.417@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:02:02 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:03:19 EDT Take a look at NewsFlash (v.2.275). http://www.scribex.com/English/index.html (Requires NEXTSTEP 3.2 or higher or OPENSTEP 4.x for Mach.) -Andre =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D <Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl> wrote in message news:F5q3uF.E01@RnA.nl... >I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better=20 >newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? > >--=20 >Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) >"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" >Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. > >"Your io is pretty std" -- Larry Wall
From: martin.mocker@lycosmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Q: mach_kernel - y2k OS 4.2 patch Date: 18 Jan 1999 22:02:12 GMT Organization: private Site Message-ID: <780b14$t4e$2@lilly.ping.de> Greetings to all of you, after following the Y2K thread in this group I decided to install the Y2K OS 4.2 patch on my NeXT Color Turbo (with OS 4.2 of course). Ok, so far so good. While installing the pkg Installer.app listed all the files that already exited on my HDD (of course - the have to be patched). But one file was not already on my HDD: /mach_kernel !!! I only had: black> ls -l /mach lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 9 Apr 18 1997 /mach -> $BOOTFILE@ black> ls -l /sdmach -r--r--r-- 3 root 832196 Apr 16 1997 /sdmach and after installing the patch, of course this mach_kernel file: -r--r--r-- 1 root 832256 Aug 7 00:14 /mach_kernel If this shall be the new Mach kernel do I have to copy it to /sdmach and overwrite this file (the size of the file mach_kernel suggest this somehow). Why did the machine run without the mach_kernel file since now ? Why do I need it now ? What to do with it ? The boot-process is startet with the command bsd()sdmach or sth. like that if that helps. Any hint to these questions is appreciated ! Have a nice day, best regards, Martin Mocker -- Martin Mocker martin.mocker@lycosmail.com
From: daj@nwu.edu (David A.Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] Configuring a NeXTprinter for a Samba service Date: 18 Jan 1999 23:19:26 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <780fhu$m7v@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The old NeXTPrinters (video style printers) are so fast I'd like to continue to use them. I'm trying to configure a NeXTprinter (black hardware) to work with Samba. Does anyone know how I should configure the service in Samba and how (if necessary) I need to modify the printcap or Netinfo entries? BTW: I'm also trying to configure a NeXTprinter as client printer using PCNFS (on the client) if anyone happens to know the secret to this I'd appreciate it also. (The crazy thing is years ago both of these worked) Thank's in advance, -- David A. Johnson email: daj@nwu.edu Manager Computer Facility and Engineering Phone: (312) 503-0408 Feinberg Research Institute, Fax: (312) 503-0137 Northwestern University HAM call: N9HAM
From: Denise Howard <denisehAT@idiomDOT.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help--goofy sendmail headers Date: 19 Jan 1999 01:33:00 GMT Organization: Remove capital letters to reply Message-ID: <780ncc$p17$1@news.idiom.com> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980117 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/2.2.6-STABLE (i386)) Background: I'm running NS 3.2 on a Turbo Color. A couple of folks have pointed out to me that when they receive personal e-mail from me, the "From:" header is whacked so they can't tell who it's from. I know next to nothing about sendmail, but it appears the problem is that the $g macro has incorrect info. Can someone tell me where to find the $g definition in my configuration so I can modify it? Here's a sample excerpt from the message header blob that someone received from me, so you can see what I'm talking about: >From Mailer-Daemon Mon Jan 18 13:38:43 1999 >Return-Path: <Mailer-Daemon> ... >From: Denise Howard <>>Reply-To: deniseh@idiom.com The relevant line in my sendmail.mailhost.cf (and sendmail.subsidiary.cf) files looks like this: # UNIX header format DlFrom $g $d # format of a total name Dq$?x$x $.<$g> These should be the generic definitions, original to my installation. But the definition for $g is not in these files. Thanks for any help! Denise
From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:16:42 -0500 Organization: phenix@interpath.com Message-ID: <1dlukkz.egsx6n17w623bN@roxboro0-027.dyn.interpath.net> References: <F5q3uF.E01@RnA.nl> ?'D1cB]L9V=\OS(\8S,5 Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4 <Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl> wrote: > I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better > newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? Go to <http://www.newsreaders.com/mac/clients.html> which has links to both mac and openstep newsreaders (including one to a latter version of Alexandra than the one you are using). -- John Moreno
From: Denise Howard <denisehAT@idiomDOT.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help--goofy sendmail headers Date: 19 Jan 1999 04:06:14 GMT Organization: Remove capital letters to reply Message-ID: <7810bm$8f3$1@news.idiom.com> References: <780ncc$p17$1@news.idiom.com> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980117 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/2.2.6-STABLE (i386)) I should've also mentioned that I'm running standalone, not on a network. Denise
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <781lcl$r4p$4184@news-1.news.gte.net> Control: cancel <781lcl$r4p$4184@news-1.news.gte.net> Date: 19 Jan 1999 10:10:50 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.781lcl$r4p$4184@news-1.news.gte.net> Sender: elsefjseled@lesjdflesjd.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: nilges@wallaby.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Michael Nilges) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] driver for tft screen Date: 19 Jan 1999 08:01:07 GMT Organization: EMBL Heidelberg Message-ID: <781e43$b0b$1@beta.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Jan 1999 08:01:07 GMT Keywords: openstep, tft Does anybody know if there is a driver for one of the tft screens for OpenStep 4.2 on Intel? I could not find anything on NextAnswers. Thanks in advance Michael. ----------------------------------------------- Michael Nilges EMBL Tel: +49 6221 387528 Meierhofstr. 1 Fax: +49 6221 387517 D-69117 Heidelberg -----------------------------------------------
From: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: 4.2 as mail / name server setup question Date: 20 Jan 1999 00:44:42 PST Organization: Caffeine Software Message-ID: <78451q$166@chronicle.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi there, so I got this job to set up a 4.2 (Intel) box to be a mail server for a domain (no, not caffeinesoft :-)). It would be registered as the primary mail server for DOMAIN.org, and also should resolve all name questions for DOMAIN.org. Where do I need to start to get my machine fully configured as mail / name server? I would like to have things like mail bounce when it's sent to a non-existing (non-aliased) address@DOMAIN.org, etc. Any suggestions will be entertained. Thanks, - Stan -- Nature Travelogues: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~stanj/Travel NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Q: mach_kernel - y2k OS 4.2 patch Date: 19 Jan 99 08:45:27 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.99Jan19084527@slave.doubleu.com> References: <780b14$t4e$2@lilly.ping.de> In-reply-to: martin.mocker@lycosmail.com's message of 18 Jan 1999 22:02:12 GMT In article <780b14$t4e$2@lilly.ping.de>, martin.mocker@lycosmail.com writes: after following the Y2K thread in this group I decided to install the Y2K OS 4.2 patch on my NeXT Color Turbo (with OS 4.2 of course). Ok, so far so good. While installing the pkg Installer.app listed all the files that already exited on my HDD (of course - the have to be patched). But one file was not already on my HDD: /mach_kernel !!! I only had: black> ls -l /mach lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 9 Apr 18 1997 /mach -> $BOOTFILE@ black> ls -l /sdmach -r--r--r-- 3 root 832196 Apr 16 1997 /sdmach and after installing the patch, of course this mach_kernel file: -r--r--r-- 1 root 832256 Aug 7 00:14 /mach_kernel If this shall be the new Mach kernel do I have to copy it to /sdmach and overwrite this file (the size of the file mach_kernel suggest this somehow). Why did the machine run without the mach_kernel file since now ? My OS4.2/Intel system has /mach_kernel, as does the NS3.3 partition on that system, while my NS3.3/m68k system has /sdmach. It's entirely possible that the difference is due to hardcoded stuff in the boot ROM on the NeXT system. In any case, it doesn't make a difference what the name is, so long as the boot command you're using matches the name where you've stored the kernel. Under the assumption that on NeXT hardware /sdmach is used because the NeXT hardware expects /sdmach, I'd move the current /sdmach to a backup location and move /mach_kernel to /sdmach. Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: get around EPROM password Date: 20 Jan 1999 08:03:39 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <784k7b$7m3@papoose.quick.com> References: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990117230257.6590B-100000@mandelbrot> In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.990117230257.6590B-100000@mandelbrot>, John Riccardi <riccardi@mandelbrot.acis.vanderbilt.edu> wrote: >I bought two ColorTurbo slabs at a NASA surplus auction - $60 each >including monitor, mouse & keyboard. I don't know *any* of the passwords >and I was wondering if anyone knew how I can reset the EPROM password so I >can boot from other media and reinstall You will have to remove the battery on the motherboard, and then either wait, or short out the contacts with a paperclip. Full instructions are in the hardware FAQ. Pointers to all the information you need are posted monthly on comp.sys.next.advocacy. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | If only the HMO would cover my allergy to gravity. ) |
From: "Steve Biskis" <mlx@san.rr.com> Subject: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:54:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:54:46 PDT Organization: TWC Road Runner, San Diego, CA Interesting, My last post seems to have been retroactively deleted from all the newsboards so here it is again with some adjustments: I assume the moderator doesn't want binaries attached. --- Hello All, There has been sufficient interest to the point where I'd better post this: Patch for Preferences under NeXTSTEP 3.3 I modified the Gnu sh-utils-1.16 date source to recognize Preference's "proprietary" set command format. This modified date.c automatically differentiates the Prefs call from the standard set format so that all the other options should still work as advertised by --usage. Here's what to do: 1> ftp to ftp.gnu.org and download the sh-utils-1.16 distribution. 2> backup the stock version of date.c that came with it and copy my modified version in its place. 3> configure & compile date 4> Now, to install, 1st make sure that you are root . 5> cd to /usr/lib/Preferences . 6> PLEASE backup the date utility that is now there by say, mv date.Y1.9K or something . 7> Now copy the new date utility to /usr/lib/Preferences and watch Preferences forge ahead into the future. 8> Don't forget to replace the one in /bin as well ... For those of you who don't/can't download or compile, I can send you a dual-FAT binary: m68k/i386 of date. Sorry, I don't run Sun or HP ... (yet) - Perhaps someone more connected than myself can build a quad FAT version and make it available along with the simple install directions. As time goes by more folks are bound to want it. I haven't messed around with any of the other problem utilities. With the possible exception of nroff/troff, I don't use any of them directly. I'm not at all sure how problematic they could prove to be in their current state. But what I'm most concerned about is what may still lay undiscovered due to lack of interest on Apple's part. I'm guessing that the only problems mentioned for NeXTSTEP are those that were found while scurrying to rescue OpenStep !!! Maybe there are no additional NS-specific problems to worry about but due to Apple's lack of support - who knows? If anybody out there discovers any new NS3.3 Y2K problems or solutions PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE respond in kind. Lets not get beat by this - we've still got time !!! da bisk P.S. In the spirit of CopyLeft, here's the source: ********** BEGIN: date.c ********** /* date - print or set the system date and time Copyright (C) 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. David MacKenzie <djm@gnu.ai.mit.edu> 11/26/98 NeXT Y2K Patched Version: Steve Biskis <mlx@san.rr.com> Look for the AREAS marked BISK for what has been alterred ... */ #include <config.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <getopt.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include "system.h" #include "getline.h" #include "error.h" #include "getdate.h" #ifndef STDC_HEADERS size_t strftime (); time_t time (); #endif int putenv (); int stime (); char *xrealloc (); time_t posixtime (); static void show_date __P ((const char *format, time_t when)); static void usage __P ((int status)); /* The name this program was run with, for error messages. */ char *program_name; /* If nonzero, display usage information and exit. */ static int show_help; /* If nonzero, print the version on standard output and exit. */ static int show_version; /* If non-zero, display time in RFC-822 format for mail or news. */ static int rfc_format = 0; /* If nonzero, print or set Coordinated Universal Time. */ static int universal_time = 0; static struct option const long_options[] = { {"date", required_argument, NULL, 'd'}, {"file", required_argument, NULL, 'f'}, {"help", no_argument, &show_help, 1}, {"reference", required_argument, NULL, 'r'}, {"rfc-822", no_argument, NULL, 'R'}, {"set", required_argument, NULL, 's'}, {"uct", no_argument, NULL, 'u'}, {"utc", no_argument, NULL, 'u'}, {"universal", no_argument, NULL, 'u'}, {"version", no_argument, &show_version, 1}, {NULL, 0, NULL, 0} }; // BISK: new function ... static time_t parseDateStr( const char *datestr ) { int n; struct timeval tv; struct tm timeObj, *tmp; char *bp, buf[4], dateStr[16]; if ( !datestr ) return -1; if ( (bp=strchr(datestr,'.')) ) { // NeXT Preferences Format ??? if ( strlen(bp)!=3 || strlen(datestr)<13 ) return -1; sprintf(dateStr,"%.10s%.2s",bp-10,bp+1); } else sprintf(dateStr,"%.12s",datestr); n=strlen(dateStr); if ( n!=4 && n!=6 && n!=10 && n!=12 ) return -1; bp=dateStr; bzero(&timeObj,sizeof(timeObj)); if ( n==10 || n==12 ) { // setting date AND time ... sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_year=atoi(buf); if ( timeObj.tm_year<50 ) timeObj.tm_year+=100; bp+=2; sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_mon=atoi(buf)-1; bp+=2; sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_mday=atoi(buf); bp+=2; } else { gettimeofday(&tv,NULL); tmp=localtime(&tv.tv_sec); timeObj.tm_year=tmp->tm_year; timeObj.tm_mon=tmp->tm_mon; timeObj.tm_mday=tmp->tm_mday; } sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_hour=atoi(buf); bp+=2; sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_min=atoi(buf); bp+=2; if ( *bp ) { sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_sec=atoi(buf); } return mktime(&timeObj); } /* Parse each line in INPUT_FILENAME as with --date and display the each resulting time and date. If the file cannot be opened, tell why then exit. Issue a diagnostic for any lines that cannot be parsed. If any line cannot be parsed, return nonzero; otherwise return zero. */ static int batch_convert (const char *input_filename, const char *format) { int status; FILE *in_stream; char *line; int line_length; size_t buflen; time_t when; if (strcmp (input_filename, "-") == 0) { input_filename = _("standard input"); in_stream = stdin; } else { in_stream = fopen (input_filename, "r"); if (in_stream == NULL) { error (1, errno, "`%s'", input_filename); } } line = NULL; buflen = 0; status = 0; while (1) { line_length = getline (&line, &buflen, in_stream); if (line_length < 0) { /* FIXME: detect/handle error here. */ break; } when = get_date (line, NULL); if (when == -1) { if (line[line_length - 1] == '\n') line[line_length - 1] = '\0'; error (0, 0, _("invalid date ` %s'"), line); status = 1; } else { show_date (format, when); } } if (fclose (in_stream) == EOF) error (2, errno, input_filename); if (line != NULL) free (line); return status; } int main ( int argc, char **argv ) { int optc; const char *datestr=NULL; const char *set_datestr=NULL; time_t when; int set_date = 0; char *format; char *batch_file=NULL; char *reference=NULL; struct stat refstats; int n_args; int status; int option_specified_date; program_name=argv[0]; setlocale(LC_ALL, ""); bindtextdomain(PACKAGE,LOCALEDIR); textdomain(PACKAGE); while ( (optc=getopt_long(argc,argv,"d:f:r:Rs:u",long_options, NULL) )!=EOF ) switch( optc ) { case 0: break; case 'd': datestr=optarg; break; case 'f': batch_file=optarg; break; case 'r': reference=optarg; break; case 'R': rfc_format=1; break; case 's': set_datestr=optarg; set_date=1; break; case 'u': universal_time=1; if ( putenv("TZ=UTC0")!=0 ) error (1,0,"memory exhausted"); #if LOCALTIME_CACHE tzset(); #endif break; default: usage(1); } if ( show_version ) { printf("date (%s) %s\n",GNU_PACKAGE,VERSION); exit(0); } if ( show_help ) usage(0); n_args=argc-optind; option_specified_date = ((datestr?1:0)+(batch_file?1:0)+(reference?1:0)); if ( option_specified_date>1 ) { error(0,0, _("the options to specify dates for printing are mutually exclusive") ); usage (1); } if ( set_date && option_specified_date ) { error(0,0, _("the options to print and set the time may not be used together") ); usage (1); } if ( n_args>1 ) { error(0,0,_("too many non-option arguments")); usage (1); } if ( (set_date || option_specified_date) && n_args==1 && argv[optind][0]!='+' ) { error(0,0,_("\ the argument `%s' lacks a leading `+';\n\ when using an option to specify date(s), any\n\ non-option argument must be a format string beginning with `+'"), argv[optind]); usage (1); } if ( set_date ) datestr=set_datestr; if ( batch_file!=NULL ) status = batch_convert(batch_file,(n_args==1?argv[optind]+1:NULL)); else { status=0; if ( !option_specified_date && !set_date ) { if ( n_args==1 && argv[optind][0]!='+' ) { /* Prepare to set system clock to the specified date/time given in the POSIX-format. */ set_date=1; datestr=argv[optind]; // BISK: changed ... //when = posixtime (datestr); when=parseDateStr(datestr); format=NULL; } else { /* Prepare to print the current date/time. */ datestr=_("undefined"); time(&when); format=(n_args==1?argv[optind]+1:NULL); } } else /* (option_specified_date || set_date) */ { if ( reference!=NULL ) { if ( stat(reference,&refstats) ) error(1,errno,"%s",reference); when = refstats.st_mtime; } else when=get_date (datestr,NULL); format=(n_args==1?argv[optind]+1:NULL); } if ( when==-1 ) error (1,0,_("invalid date `%s'"),datestr); if ( set_date ) { /* Set the system clock to the specified date, then regardless of the success of that operation, format and print that date. */ if ( stime(&when)==-1 ) error(0,errno,_("cannot set date")); } show_date (format, when); } if ( fclose(stdout)==EOF ) error(2,errno,_("write error")); exit (status); } /* Display the date and/or time in WHEN according to the format specified in FORMAT, followed by a newline. If FORMAT is NULL, use the standard output format (ctime style but with a timezone inserted). */ static void show_date (const char *format, time_t when) { struct tm *tm; char *out = NULL; size_t out_length = 0; tm = localtime (&when); if (format == NULL) { /* Print the date in the default format. Vanilla ANSI C strftime doesn't support %e, but POSIX requires it. If you don't use a GNU strftime, make sure yours supports %e. If you are not using GNU strftime, you want to change %z in the RFC format to %Z; this gives, however, an invalid RFC time format outside the continental United States and GMT. */ format = (rfc_format ? (universal_time ? "%a, %_d %b %Y %H:%M:%S GMT" : "%a, %_d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %z") : "%a %b %e %H:%M:%S %Z %Y"); } else if (*format == '\0') { printf ("\n"); return; } do { out_length += 200; out = (char *) xrealloc (out, out_length); } while (strftime (out, out_length, format, tm) == 0); printf ("%s\n", out); free (out); } static void usage (int status) { if (status != 0) fprintf (stderr, _("Try `%s --help' for more information.\n"), program_name); else { printf (_("\ Usage: %s [OPTION]... [+FORMAT]\n\ or: %s [OPTION] [MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]]\n\ "), program_name, program_name); printf (_("\ Display the current time in the given FORMAT, or set the system date.\n\ \n\ -d, --date=STRING display time described by STRING, not `now'\n\ -f, --file=DATEFILE like --date once for each line of DATEFILE\n\ -r, --reference=FILE display the last modification time of FILE\n\ -R, --rfc-822 output RFC-822 compliant date string\n\ -s, --set=STRING set time described by STRING\n\ -u, --utc, --universal print or set Coordinated Universal Time\n\ --help display this help and exit\n\ --version output version information and exit\n\ ")); printf (_("\ \n\ FORMAT controls the output. The only valid option for the second form\n\ specifies Coordinated Universal Time. Interpreted sequences are:\n\ \n\ %%%% a literal %%\n\ %%a locale's abbreviated weekday name (Sun..Sat)\n\ %%A locale's full weekday name, variable length (Sunday..Saturday)\n\ %%b locale's abbreviated month name (Jan..Dec)\n\ %%B locale's full month name, variable length (January..December)\n\ %%c locale's date and time (Sat Nov 04 12:02:33 EST 1989)\n\ %%d day of month (01..31)\n\ %%D date (mm/dd/yy)\n\ %%e day of month, blank padded ( 1..31)\n\ %%h same as %%b\n\ %%H hour (00..23)\n\ %%I hour (01..12)\n\ %%j day of year (001..366)\n\ %%k hour ( 0..23)\n\ %%l hour ( 1..12)\n\ %%m month (01..12)\n\ %%M minute (00..59)\n\ %%n a newline\n\ %%p locale's AM or PM\n\ %%r time, 12-hour (hh:mm:ss [AP]M)\n\ %%s seconds since 00:00:00, Jan 1, 1970 (a GNU extension)\n\ %%S second (00..61)\n\ %%t a horizontal tab\n\ %%T time, 24-hour (hh:mm:ss)\n\ %%U week number of year with Sunday as first day of week (00..53)\n\ %%V week number of year with Monday as first day of week (01..52)\n\ %%w day of week (0..6); 0 represents Sunday\n\ %%W week number of year with Monday as first day of week (00..53)\n\ %%x locale's date representation (mm/dd/yy)\n\ %%X locale's time representation (%%H:%%M:%%S)\n\ %%y last two digits of year (00..99)\n\ %%Y year (1970...)\n\ %%z RFC-822 style numeric timezone (-0500) (a nonstandard extension)\n\ %%Z time zone (e.g., EDT), or nothing if no time zone is determinable\n\ \n\ By default, date pads numeric fields with zeroes. GNU date recognizes\n\ the following modifiers between `%%' and a numeric directive.\n\ \n\ `-' (hyphen) do not pad the field\n\ `_' (underscore) pad the field with spaces\n\ ")); puts (_("\nReport bugs to sh-utils-bugs@gnu.ai.mit.edu")); } exit (status); } ********** END: date.c **********
From: aawtrey@internetwerx.com (Allan Awtrey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: openstep 4.2 boot floppy for motorola hardware Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:09:52 GMT Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America Message-ID: <F1EABA194DC10683.D3D132B8FB1029E2.0378B84BA15D8075@library-proxy.airnews.net> Abuse-Reports-To: abuse at airmail.net to report improper postings NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Wed Jan 20 08:09:46 1999 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i found several messages pertaining to creating boot floppies in this group but when i look on nextanswers i could only find one page with openstep boot floppy images. this page did not mention whether these disks were for the 68k or intel platform so i assumed that they must work with either. after following apple's directions (format dos disk then use rawrite to put the image onto the floppy) my next cube recognizes the floppy when booted (it has nextstep 3.2 right now) but when i try to boot from the floppy it gives me 4 errors saying invalid checksum, wrong label, and something else, several times. did i do something wrong or is this not the right boot floppy for this machine (a non turbo so i had already tried booting directly from the cd with no luck) any ideas or maybe a place to get the correct image from if i have the wrong disk? thanks
From: daniel_et_green@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Used NeXT Cube. Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:16:44 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <784s0g$b2h$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Howdy. I apologize if this is not the correct group, but of all the comp.sys.next groups, this seemed the most accurate for this posting... I recently bought a used NeXT CUBE which I have just received, unpacked and am completely amazed by, and I haven't even gotten to the OS yet! The problem is that A) I don't know the ROM password. But I can still get it to boot. Is there a way to reset the ROM so that it defaults back to its original settings? B) When it does actually start booting NeXTSTEP, it starts look for YP services on my network, which I don't provide, seeing as the cube is the only computer on the network right now. Is there a way to boot into a single-user mode so that I might diable the YP services? I'm quite familiar with UNIX in general, so there's no problem if I can just get to a root shell. Basically, I need to hack my own machine. :) Also, if somebody could post a list of key combinations that do useful things at startup, it would be much appreciated. (I don't have the docs for NeXTSTEP -- plan on buying OS4.2 ASAP). Thanks! -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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From: dan_green@ibs.ingenius.on.ca Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:03:47 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <785270$gop$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Message-ID: <cancel.785270$gop$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Sender: dan_green@ibs.ingenius.on.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Control: cancel <785270$gop$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Original Subject: Comments: Was a duplicate posting. Accident. :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: "cleong" <cleong@NOSPAM.jerseycow.com> Subject: Re: openstep 4.2 boot floppy for motorola hardware Message-ID: <F5vD7x.HBv@news2.new-york.net> References: <F1EABA194DC10683.D3D132B8FB1029E2.0378B84BA15D8075@library-proxy.airnews.net> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:46:49 GMT >any ideas or maybe a place to get the correct image from if i have the >wrong disk? You can use the 3.3 Motorola boot floppy http://ent.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2071.htmld/2071.html ) for kickstarting the OS4.2 CD on non-Turbo hardware. Then go to http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2667.htmld/2667.html and read "Creating NEXTSTEP Floppies From Images Under NEXTSTEP". ---- Clifford Leong [leong@home.com] http://members.home.net/leong
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 4.2 as mail / name server setup question Date: 20 Jan 1999 19:33:39 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <785b2j$doc$2@news.spacelab.net> References: <78451q$166@chronicle.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) wrote: [ ... ] > Where do I need to start to get my machine fully configured as mail / > name server? I would like to have things like mail bounce when it's sent > to a non-existing (non-aliased) address@DOMAIN.org, etc. For those purposes, you'd do the same configuration you would do with any other Unix machine. Get the latest version of sendmail (8.9.2), use a modern m4 to build a new configuration file. Set up Cw or use a file macro to set up a /etc/mail/sendmail.cw file containing the list of addresses which local delivery should occur. It's likely you would wish to set up /etc/mail/relay-domains and access for spam filtering but still permit legitimate relaying. For name service, either get BIND 4.9.6 (older version, configuration is more familiar to most people and corresponds to the O'Reilly books) or BIND 8.1.x (newer, more secure and much more configurable, somewhat painful to build, not nearly as much documentation around). Set up one or more authoritative name server(s) for the domain and create the data files, and let your ISP and/or InterNIC know so proper delegation for the domain and the IP space (the in-addr.arpa reverse domain) is done. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: Richard Tilley <Betty Siren@pangea.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Esoteric OD question Date: 20 Jan 1999 12:24:07 -0600 Organization: Pangea.CA, Inc. Message-ID: <785707$9v@surf.pangea.ca> References: <36a19388.0@news.cadvision.com> <36A265BA.FD6FCC89@ncal.verio.com> <36a381e7.0@news.cadvision.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jan 1999 18:26:19 GMT Hi Larry ... Try your drives in another cube to narrow down the suspects. The common "repeated spindown spinup" problem can be cured by spreading a drop of thin oil on each of the silver rails. ... Richard
From: martin.mocker@lycosmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: CubXWindow & ADB Keyboards ??? Date: 20 Jan 1999 22:39:08 GMT Organization: private Site Message-ID: <785luc$ngi$1@lilly.ping.de> Hello everyone, I am facing another problem :-( Since I switched to ADB somehow CunX won't run properly anymore: I get all the wrong characters when typing on the keyboard; e.g. I get <enter> when typing a <w> and so on... Someone suggested I should change the .Xmodmap user file and I did so. I managed to change all characters - except <a> !!! xev tells me that the keycode for "a" is 0 (0x0, NoSymbol) !! And no xmodmap version I tried wants to swallow the follwoing definition: keycode 0 = a A They all abort with "bad keycode value Why, why has it to be this way ??? Why can there be a key on the keyboard with keycode 0 when I cannot redefine it ?? Please help - I am getting aggressive towards my station - don't know how long I can hold myself back...this is getting frustrating. Thanks in advance ! Best regards, Martin -- Martin Mocker martin.mocker@lycosmail.com
From: mgi@granite.geol.vt.edu (Matthias Georg Imhof) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: How to install updated driver ATIRage.pkg.compressed.Z on OS4.2 Date: 20 Jan 1999 23:43:27 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <785pmv$kaq$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jan 1999 23:43:27 GMT I have been trying to decompress ATIRage.pkg.compressed.Z. First, I use gunzip to obtain ATIRage.pkg.compressed. However, at this point I am absolutely lost how to obtain the package. Workspace tells me that Jan 20 18:29:40 MiniApp[392]: Error while executing /usr/ucb/uncompress Manually calling uncompress yields that the remaining ATIRage.pkg.compressed file is not in gzip format. Which tool should I use to get the .pkg file? Matthias -- ************************************************************************** * Matthias G.Imhof, Ph.D. phone: (540) 231 6004 * * Derring Hall 4044 fax: (540) 231 3386 * * Virginia Tech email: mgi@vt.edu * * Blacksburg, VA 24061-0420 http://www.geol.vt.edu/profs/mgi * * There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark * **************************************************************************
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NetInfo Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77oi2l$5bu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Message-ID: <f5xp2.316$If7.633376@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:23:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:23:55 EDT In <77oi2l$5bu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> josborn@depauw.edu wrote: > Can I disablt NetInfo and just run NFS? > > If so is there more to mounting the remote filesystems then entering the host > in the hosts file and using NFSManger to mount the files other computer's > files. Any thoughts? NFSManager.app is a front end to NetInfo. Turn NetInfo off and you can't use NFSManager. NFS should be pretty easy to setup -- have you had anyone try and talk you through it? TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Used NeXT Cube. Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <784s0g$b2h$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Message-ID: <Bdxp2.319$If7.633376@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:32:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:32:49 EDT see http://www.peak.org/~luomat/articles/FAQs/ TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <Xrym2.18548$kR5.26897@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77l9f6$d3j$1@news.spacelab.net> <77ohia$53c$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Message-ID: <elxp2.321$If7.633376@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:40:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:40:58 EDT In <77ohia$53c$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> josborn@depauw.edu wrote: > I set my (Black Hardware) clock to 30 seconds to midnight Dec 31, 1999 last > year and it just flipped up to 2000. You can let it take care of itself and let it turn to 2000. You cannot set it past 2000. You can sync it to another machine using ntp. > Some of the software may be buggy but > my guess is that the NeXT's are y2k compliant. The problem is not the minor utilities but the Frameworks used in 3.3 TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> Message-ID: <Jpxp2.324$If7.633376@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:45:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:45:45 EDT NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE A) Binaries should not be posted to non-binary groups. I just had to watch my wheel spin as your binary was downloaded through my 28.8 connection. Usenet is not the place for file distribution (that's why FTP was invented). Usenet feeds expire, people may or may not want the binary you just forced on them, etc (Plus I'm willing to be you violated the Usenet AUP for RR.com) B) Your message was not needed to be crossposted, and violated the guidelines for these groups C) Your efforts, while appreciated, are duplications of efforts already made. There was a replacement `date' command put on the FTP sites some time ago D) These little commands are not what I worry about, it is the frameworks used for 3.3 that worry me (how will they work after y2k?). TjL
From: "Rex Dieter" <rdieter@math.unl.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: How to install updated driver ATIRage.pkg.compressed.Z on OS4.2 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:27:55 -0600 Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <787d8r$f2b$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <785pmv$kaq$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Matthias Georg Imhof wrote in message <785pmv$kaq$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu>... >I have been trying to decompress ATIRage.pkg.compressed.Z. First, I use >gunzip to obtain ATIRage.pkg.compressed. 1. rename ATIRage.pkg.compressed.Z to ATIRage.pkg.compressed since it is ALREADY compressed. 2. Select in FileViewer/WorkSpace, choose File->Decompress 3. Double click resulting ATIRage.pkg to launch Installer.app 4. Run /NextAdmin/Configure.app to setup/configure the driver. -- Rex
From: hutchens@cs.millersv.edu (David H. Hutchens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Loading OPENSTEP on Gateway Date: 21 Jan 1999 16:42:41 GMT Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania Message-ID: <787le1$3eq$1@jake.esu.edu> I need help in installing OPENSTEP 4.2 on a Gateway 450. It has a 10.2 GB MAXTOR EIDE/ATAPI hard disk, and an EIDE/ATAPI CDROM (Mitsumi). When I tried to install, things seem to be fine until it tries to find the hard disk for install. Then it complains that it needs a disk with 512 byte blocks and 120 MB of disk. The disk is currently empty. However, it seems to have labeled the CDROM as sd0. I don't see the disk in the boot information from OPENSTEP. So I checked the BIOS and found that the CDROM was the primary master and the hard disk was the secondary master. I tried switching the data wires. The result is that it marks the hard disk as hd0 and fails to see the CDROM at all. Is there some magic wiring for loading OPENSTEP with an ATAPI CDROM and an ATAPI disk drive? Also, I have an Ensoniq AGP video card. Is there a driver that will work with this card, or must I barter it for a Matrox Millenium? Thanks, - David Hutchens hutchens@cs.millersv.edu
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <787mru$32n$12253@news01.roka.net> Control: cancel <787mru$32n$12253@news01.roka.net> Date: 21 Jan 1999 17:08:13 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.787mru$32n$12253@news01.roka.net> Sender: steffi@pointofmail.de Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de (Paul Seelig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Date: 21 Jan 99 08:40:41 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <87g195xbli.fsf@ranita.zdv.uni-mainz.de> References: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII "Steve Biskis" <mlx@san.rr.com> writes: > My last post seems to have been retroactively deleted > from all the newsboards > Check out news.admin.abuse for details. > so here it is again with some > adjustments: > Aargh! No, not again! >:-( > I assume the moderator doesn't want binaries attached. > Ahem, i don't want any binaries in non-binary newsgroups (like this one for example) either. This is BTW *very* depreciated via *basic* netiquette. Would you please be so kind as to pay some attention to this as well? A far more appropriate method of getting your patch distributed would be via a personal homepage or by uploading it to the peanuts FTP site. IIRC one can get completely free webspace at www.geocities.com and the like for such purposes. It would be politer to simply announce the availability of said patch and refer interested parties to the URL where to download this patch instead of spamming they way you are repeatedly doing now. And now i'm going to delete your posting (among quite some others) from our news server to allow for more disk space savings. Usenet has been becoming quite a nuisance in recent years because of the immense increase of spam postings. Yours is still among the nicer items but spam for it's offtopicness nonetheless. Thank you, P. Seelig -- --------- Paul Seelig <pseelig@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de> ----------- African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany ------------------- http://ntama.uni-mainz.de --------------------
From: mlx@san.rr.com (Steve Biskis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Date: 21 Jan 99 22:43:50 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <199901212243.OAA08524@proxyb1-atm.san.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Paul, nice to meet you - [...] > Check out news.admin.abuse for details. Can't find it in my newsgroups listings. Found news.admin.net-abuse.* but the contents of these, while entertaining, doesn't really seem to bear much resemblance to my post. [...] > Ahem, i don't want any binaries in non-binary newsgroups (like this > one for example) either. This is BTW *very* depreciated via *basic* > netiquette. Would you please be so kind as to pay some attention to > this as well? Truly sorry, I wasn't sure about that one. I'm admittedly new to posting. Where do I find out about the policies of a given newsgroup BEFORE I break them ? BTW, is that word really supposed to be depreciated ? > A far more appropriate method of getting your patch distributed would > be via a personal homepage or by uploading it to the peanuts FTP site. > IIRC one can get completely free webspace at www.geocities.com and the > like for such purposes. It would be politer to simply announce the > availability of said patch and refer interested parties to the URL > where to download this patch instead of spamming they way you are > repeatedly doing now. Sorry, at the time, just seemed simpler and more direct to do it my way. > And now i'm going to delete your posting (among quite some others) > from our news server to allow for more disk space savings. Usenet has > been becoming quite a nuisance in recent years because of the immense > increase of spam postings. Yours is still among the nicer items but > spam for it's offtopicness nonetheless. Here, I have to disagree. I fail to see how a patch to overcome the limitations of a NeXT SysAdmin tool is SPAM to comp.sys.next.sysadmin. If it is, you had better loosen up that policy a bit. As far as saving disk space, its true, my post at 569 lines was not small. However, I see a regular post of 327 lines re-hitting about once a week. Mine was(would have been) a one-shot. I'm not criticizing that "Where to find Resources" post, I think its very valuable. But, technically, its far more loosely related to SysAdmin than my post. Now, I'll delete your newsgroup from my listings, its holds far more questions than answers anyway - and with maintainers like you its sure to stay that way. > Thank you, P. Seelig > -- > --------- Paul Seelig <pseelig@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de> ----------- > African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies > Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany > ------------------- http://ntama.uni-mainz.de -------------------- and Thank You, Steve B.
From: pekele_c@informatik.fh-hamburg.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Single user problem with the pasteboard Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:06:44 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <788ius$l38$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Hi, I have a standalone OS4.2/Intel machine which is running fine. I set up a new user account for a relative who's a complete computer newbie. After several weeks of working with her account there appears a problem with the pasteboard server so that drag&drop and most applications refuse to launch anymore. The other user accounts are still working correctly. When the user with the broken account logs in she gets the following console output (clips): Dec 29 21:22:05 Workspace[244]: *** Error connecting to pasteboard: -102 Dec 29 21:22:06 Workspace[244]: *** Error connecting to pasteboard: -102 Dec 29 21:24:04 luck Mail[246]: An uncaught exception was raised Dec 29 21:24:04 luck Mail[246]: App Kit: Pasteboard Mach messaging error #-203, in (null pointer) Dec 29 21:26:07 Solitaire[435] AppKit Error: Can't connect to pbs. Maybe Public Window Server is not enabled on remote host? Also note: you can't NSHost 4.X apps to 3.X systems. Dec 29 21:26:16 luck Mail[438]: Assertion failed: App Kit error: Error messaging drag service Dec 29 21:35:31 Workspace[244]: *** Error connecting to pasteboard: -102 Dec 29 21:35:31 luck WM[244]: App Kit: Pasteboard Mach messaging error #-102, in _NXGetSession I have no idea what going on here, what caused this problem and how it could be fixed. The user is unable to tell me what she did last before the problem appeared. I cleaned the NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP defaults database of the user and set all files in the user's home read and writeable to the user. But these shots into the dark didn't help so I deleted the user and recreated it. Now, after several weeks the same problem appears again for the same account. Any ideas? Thanks, Christian -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: Mike Ingram <ingramm@aries.tucson.saic.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] Configuring a NeXTprinter for a Samba service Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:35:42 -0700 Message-ID: <36A7F20D.DD85B611@aries.tucson.saic.com> References: <780fhu$m7v@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > I'm trying to configure a NeXTprinter (black hardware) to work with Samba. > Does anyone know how I should configure the service in Samba and how (if > necessary) I need to modify the printcap or Netinfo entries? Let's see.... Black turboslab, version 3.3, Black printer I used Samba.1.9.18.p10 .... ( a fairly recent version) in smb.conf , under /usr/local/samba/lib/smb.conf I have [global] printcap name = /usr/local/samba/lib/printcap printing = bsd ; encrypt passwords = yes ( I could NOT get encrypted passwords to work with a Win 98 box..... had to turn to a Microsoft trick to turn off encrypted passwords ) [printers] comment = All Printers path = /usr/spool/samba browseable = no guest ok = no writable = no printable = yes /usr/local/samba/lib/printcap has a single line entry: Local_Printer Printer is configured as standard Next printer .. nothing special there.... Some of this I got from the SAMBA faq, It's been a while, but don't think I did anything with NetInfo. good luck MIke
From: triplett@merlin.sccs.swarthmore.edu (Lisa June Triplett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Seeking your opinions and experiences Date: 20 Jan 1999 22:26:51 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA Message-ID: <785l7b$cob@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm a sociology and anthropology major at Swarthmore College. I'm also minoring in computer science and have worked as a sysadmin and system programmer. I'm writing my soc & anth senior thesis about the culture of United States computer professionals. With this post, I'm trying to reach computer professionals, specifically programmers and sysadmins (including consultants), of all ages and levels of experience. If you fit this description, and have the time and interest, I'd really appreciate your help. I've been reading what both academic researchers and the popular media have to say about computer professionals, and now I'd like to get some perspective on whether what I've been reading and what I've observed fits other peoples' real experiences. You can help me by answering as many of the questions on the following questionnaire as possible, in as much detail as you would like. Illustrative anecdotes are welcome. Send all responses to triplett@sccs.swarthmore.edu. I won't use the real names of anyone who answers this questionnaire in my paper. Thank you very much for your time and consideration. Sincerely, Lisa Triplett I. Demographics 1. In what state and city do you work? 2. Approximately how many employees of your company work at your job site? 3. How old are you? II. Your Personal Story 1. How long have you been involved with computers? What were your first experiences with programming or system administration? 2. Do you consider yourself fundamentally a "computer person"? How about a "geek"? Why or why not? What do those terms mean? 3. What drew you to the type of job you have now? (or Why did you decide to stick with computers and make it a career?) Why are you still doing it now? Is it the same reason? What do you get out of it? 4. How does being a computer person (or just a computer professional) affect the rest of your life? Are most of your friends computer people? If so, do you think it's because of something fundamental you have in common or are they just the people who are around? 5. What do you do in your free time? Do the things you do in your free time have anything in common with working with computers? One of the things I've noticed is that it seems like computer people (myself often included) go about any pastime with the intention of becoming an expert-- learning all of the terminology, reading everything that's ever been written about it, striving to be excellent or impressive even when it's "just" the thing they do for fun or entertainment. What do you think of this idea? Do you fit into this? Do people you know? II. Thoughts on the computer community and work environment 1. How is the computer industry different from other industries? Are workplaces organized differently? Are the people different? Would you say there is anything special about computers themselves that attracts a certain type of person or demands a certain type of workplace organization? 2. Is the world of computer experts a secret society? Did it used to be if i t isn't now? Is it a community at all? What does it take to be a "member"? What binds people together? How do you earn social status in the computer world? Is it an "old boy" network? How do women and minorities fit into the computer community? 3. Obviously there's a stereotype of computer people as not being bound to the same social rules as others. Have you found that places you've worked have been more tolerant of individual quirkiness than you'd expect other professions to be? Any stories about that? 4. I read somewhere that "managing programmers is like herding cats," (*Close to the Machine*, by Ellen Ullman). From that statement, you get the idea that programmers are these fiercely independent people, brilliant but don't play well with others, that sort of thing. How true do you think that is? Do you think the computer industry is organized differently from other industries because of this? 5. The computer industry seems to be undergoing a lot of changes lately, partly because of overwhelming growth in number of companies and jobs. What do you think are some of the major trends of change in the computer industry, and what is your opinion of them? Are there changes in the type of people becoming computer professionals? Changes in workplace organization? 6. What about the trend towards higher and higher level programming languages and visual programming languages? Is the industry getting less arcane? Is this affecting the computer community? 7. If you've worked more than one place, do you find regional differences in the computer culture? What about differences based on size of workplace? Any thoughts on the effects of computer firms having campuses? 8. Is there a personality difference between the people who are drawn to programming and the people who are drawn to system administration? Between people who do different types of programming? Do you think there's an area of the computer industry where the "real geeks are? Where is that and why? IV. Suggestions for me Can you think of any books or articles I should read? Any web sites I should visit or newsgroups/mailing lists I should check out? Thank you so much for your help!
From: "Cliff McCollum" <cliffmcc@blueglobe.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NAT for MacOS X Organization: Blue Globe Software Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <uk0q2.2178$EI2.3143@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:56:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:56:26 PDT Is there any way to do NAT under Rhapsody DR2, and eventually under MacOS X? Cliff ========================================================================= Cliff McCollum cliffmcc@blueglobe.com President, Blue Globe Software http://www.blueglobe.com/~cliffmcc PO Box 8171, Victoria, BC, CANADA, V8W3R8.
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Transferring Diskspace to NT? Date: 22 Jan 1999 19:12:26 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <78aiiq$p21$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <36a7f09c.4851476@news.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit decker@robdecker.com (Robert A. Decker) wrote: [ ... ] > Is there a way to transfer the OpenStep diskspace to NT without having > to reinstall NT? Yes. Run Disk Administrator (under Start->Programs->Administrative Tools), use it to format the OPENSTEP partition with NTFS or FAT. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Date: 22 Jan 1999 19:41:57 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <78aka5$ph8$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <199901212243.OAA08524@proxyb1-atm.san.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mlx@san.rr.com (Steve Biskis) wrote: [ ... ] >> Ahem, i don't want any binaries in non-binary newsgroups (like this >> one for example) either. This is BTW *very* depreciated via *basic* >> netiquette. Would you please be so kind as to pay some attention to >> this as well? > > Truly sorry, I wasn't sure about that one. I'm admittedly new to posting. > Where do I find out about the policies of a given newsgroup BEFORE I > break them ? You read the FAQ for that particular newsgroup. In this case, it is posted here regularly by Scott Anguish. It includes a "Roadmap for the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups", which is also available on <URL=http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html>. Otherwise, examine <URL=ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups>. [ ... ] >> And now i'm going to delete your posting (among quite some others) >> from our news server to allow for more disk space savings. Usenet has >> been becoming quite a nuisance in recent years because of the immense >> increase of spam postings. Yours is still among the nicer items but >> spam for it's offtopicness nonetheless. > > Here, I have to disagree. I fail to see how a patch to overcome the > limitations of a NeXT SysAdmin tool is SPAM to comp.sys.next.sysadmin. Binary postings to non-binary newsgroups are SPAM by definition. > If it is, you had better loosen up that policy a bit. It's not his policy to change. If you want to the charters of these newgroups to be modified, you are free to start the RFC/CFV process and see whether enough people agree. > As far as saving disk space, its true, my post at 569 lines was not small. > However, I see a regular post of 327 lines re-hitting about once a week. > Mine was(would have been) a one-shot. I'm not criticizing that "Where to > find Resources" post, I think its very valuable. But, technically, its far > more loosely related to SysAdmin than my post. Scott knows what he's doing; he's using a supercedes: header to control resource utilization. > Now, I'll delete your newsgroup from my listings, its holds far more > questions than answers anyway - and with maintainers like you its sure > to stay that way. Oh. Well, so much for that.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: "Calvin Mitchell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Newbie: Shell Scripts on Openstep 4.2/Mach Message-ID: <xE5q2.602$jW6.8308@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:59:05 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:59:09 PDT Organization: SBC Internet Services Why can't i run /bin/sh scripts from the Terminal.app window without typing "/bin/sh <script>"??? I even created a new user id and gave it 'sh' as its default shell.
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NAT for MacOS X Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <uk0q2.2178$EI2.3143@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com> Message-ID: <Ov9q2.1195$If7.2250213@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:22:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:22:54 EDT In <uk0q2.2178$EI2.3143@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com> "Cliff McCollum" wrote: > Is there any way to do NAT under Rhapsody DR2, and eventually under MacOS X? The products are still under NDA as non-shipping products. I can say this much: BSD4.4, on which they are based, has NAT capabilities, if the kernel is built that way. So it depends whether or not Apple is smart enough to build the kernel with it turned on. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: Ryan Scott <scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Newbie: Shell Scripts on Openstep 4.2/Mach Date: 23 Jan 1999 01:22:41 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <78b891$mpo$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <xE5q2.602$jW6.8308@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cal_mitc@pacbell.net In <xE5q2.602$jW6.8308@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> "Calvin Mitchell" wrote: > Why can't i run /bin/sh scripts from the Terminal.app window without typing > "/bin/sh <script>"??? > > I even created a new user id and gave it 'sh' as its default shell. Is the permission set to executable? -- ________________________________________________ Ryan P. Scott Laser and Electro-Optics Research Group UC Davis - Department of Applied Science Tel: (530)754-4358 Fax: (530)752-1652 Email: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu ________________________________________________
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Newbie: Shell Scripts on Openstep 4.2/Mach Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <xE5q2.602$jW6.8308@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Message-ID: <2z9q2.1199$If7.2250213@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:26:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:26:22 EDT In <xE5q2.602$jW6.8308@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> "Calvin Mitchell" wrote: > Why can't i run /bin/sh scripts from the Terminal.app window without typing > "/bin/sh <script>"??? Because they aren't executable. You need to 'chmod' it, such as 'chmod 755' or 'chmod a+x' $ cat testprog #!/bin/sh echo hello there exit 0 $ ./testprog ./testprog: cannot execute $ chmod a+x testprog $ ./testprog hello there easy as pie TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
Message-ID: <36A94CE1.E0EA0A5E@mw.mediaone.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:15:29 -0800 From: Michael Koch <mkoch@mw.mediaone.net> Organization: Core Dump, INC. MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: DHCP/ADSL yet again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After reading and getting some help from people here I'm still unable to get DHCP to work. I'm using the 4.2 package available at peak. What is happening on my machine is that after the Listening/Sending on BPF/en0/<mac-addy>/unattached I get a line Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net followed by the DHCPDISCOVER on en0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 etc. which times out. I'm not sure what the fallback-net thing is about. I have the suspicion that DHCP simply doesn't work because BPF doesn't work, i.e, that the packages are not sent through BPF. I know the regular interface works (can telnet yadayada to another machine when I configure it to be on the same subnet). Anyone seen this? Is it normal? Thanks!
Message-ID: <36A95305.9C35EB74@mw.mediaone.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:41:41 -0800 From: Michael Koch <mkoch@mw.mediaone.net> Organization: Core Dump, INC. MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: DHCP/ADSL yet again References: <36A94CE1.E0EA0A5E@mw.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whoops... nevermind. Dinner-break-switched-off-machine for 40 mins fix itself syndrome. I guess powercycling from the workspace manager doesn't quite do it. Hmm... In case someone is interested and using USWest ADSL: Made entry in netinfo for my hostname by copying localhost as described on www.peak.org/~luomat/ . I left the ip_address field blank (also described somewhere). Installed the package, added the en_address field as described in the README that comes with the package. Hostconfig is machinename -NO- -NO- 255.255.255.0 IPBROADCAST= (left blank) -NO- -NO- -NO- the dhclient.conf file is... empty. Hope this helps a bit. Thanks to the folks that had the patience to help me with earlier DHCP troubles. MIKE... Michael Koch wrote: > > After reading and getting some help from people here I'm still unable to > get DHCP to work. I'm using the 4.2 package available at peak. > > What is happening on my machine is that after the Listening/Sending on > BPF/en0/<mac-addy>/unattached I get a line > > Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net > > followed by the DHCPDISCOVER on en0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 > > etc. which times out. > > I'm not sure what the fallback-net thing is about. I have the suspicion > that DHCP simply doesn't work because BPF doesn't work, i.e, that the > packages are not sent through BPF. I know the regular interface works > (can telnet yadayada to another machine when I configure it to be on the > same subnet). > > Anyone seen this? Is it normal? > > Thanks!
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Date: 22 Jan 99 07:28:10 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.99Jan22072810@slave.doubleu.com> References: <199901212243.OAA08524@proxyb1-atm.san.rr.com> In-reply-to: mlx@san.rr.com's message of 21 Jan 99 22:43:50 GMT In article <199901212243.OAA08524@proxyb1-atm.san.rr.com>, mlx@san.rr.com (Steve Biskis) writes: Hello Paul, nice to meet you - > Ahem, i don't want any binaries in non-binary newsgroups (like > this one for example) either. This is BTW *very* depreciated via > *basic* netiquette. Would you please be so kind as to pay some > attention to this as well? Truly sorry, I wasn't sure about that one. I'm admittedly new to posting. Where do I find out about the policies of a given newsgroup BEFORE I break them ? BTW, is that word really supposed to be depreciated ? He probably meant "deprecated". BTW, don't let these self-appointed net.cops get to you _too_ much. While they're broadly correct in their assertions, netiquette _also_ demands that one should one's guns holstered for minor violations and contact the original poster via email rather than making a federal issue of it. Your real mistake was probably to make a long posting which was relatively free of original content, and then to cross-post it to four groups, so more readers got the opportunity to see it and get annoyed by it. If you'd posted a suitable input to the patch utility to a single newsgroup, you'd probably have had no troubles. Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Date: 20 Jan 1999 19:25:40 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <785ajk$doc$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [ ...crossposting removed... ] "Steve Biskis" <mlx@san.rr.com> wrote: >Interesting, > >My last post seems to have been retroactively deleted >from all the newsboards so here it is again with some >adjustments: > >I assume the moderator doesn't want binaries attached. The only moderated NeXT newsgroup is comp.sys.next.announce. Still, the others are not supposed to have binaries posted, nor is there any reason to cross-post between these groups. So it's possible that your message tripped someone's spam-filter.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: moooster@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Sherman Mui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: lpd troubles Message-ID: <36aa87cf.2240210@news.pacbell.net> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 02:48:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:47:24 PDT Organization: SBC Internet Services Hi, I'm having some strange problems with my NeXT Laser Printer. It's hooked up to a NeXT station turbo running NeXTSTEP 3.0. Symptoms: Queing anything in w/ lpr causes my queue to get larger without any hopes of shrinking. Basically lpq hangs with the status message: Waiting for printer to become ready (offline?) Background; * Netinfo and /etc/printcap seem to be good. * Printer devices are there. * verified permissions on the npd, lp* commands * verified which processes should running and they are * using the PrinterTest admin tool, I have verified that the printer does in fact work and the cable is at least good enough to know to power on and transmit data. * did a continuity test on the pins of the serial cable. checks out (it's supposed to be straight thru not null serial right?) * tried cleaning out the spool directories Has anyone run into this before or has any suggestions on how to solve this problem? TIA! Sherman
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <306916549240@digifix.com> Date: 24 Jan 1999 04:44:19 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <13193917154022@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: decker@robdecker.com (Robert A. Decker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Transferring Diskspace to NT? Message-ID: <36a7f09c.4851476@news.itd.umich.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 03:32:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:33:38 EDT I have a laptop with both NT and OpenStep 4.2. I want to transfer the OpenStep partition over to NT. (I do WebObjects development and am running low on space and since MacOSXServer isn't out for Intel, and may never be, and probably won't support this laptop anyway I've resigned myself to having to use NT) Is there a way to transfer the OpenStep diskspace to NT without having to reinstall NT? thanks, rob
From: cheetah_star@yahoo.com (Sparr The Cheetah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Where can I get a NEXT? Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Message-ID: <Et4r2.6492$IJ3.53653277@WReNphoon2> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:24:24 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:28:20 PDT Thanks for helping me I've played around with one and I loved it. To prevent being scammed I prefer a company that sells them over a private party. But if somebody is selling one please let me know. I live in Colorado Thank you very much. -**** Posted from remarQ, Discussions Start Here(tm) ****- http://www.remarq.com/ - Host to the the World's Discussions & Usenet
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Where can I get a NEXT? Date: 25 Jan 1999 22:22:21 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <78iqqt$aib$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <Et4r2.6492$IJ3.53653277@WReNphoon2> www.deepspacetech.com www.blackholeinc.com Sparr The Cheetah (cheetah_star@yahoo.com) wrote: : Thanks for helping me I've played around with one and I loved it. : To prevent being scammed I prefer a company that sells them over a private : party. : But if somebody is selling one please let me know. I live in Colorado : Thank you very much. : -**** Posted from remarQ, Discussions Start Here(tm) ****- : http://www.remarq.com/ - Host to the the World's Discussions & Usenet
From: pokey <pokey069@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Using a NeXTStation w/o monitor Date: 26 Jan 1999 02:11:56 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <36AD2519.E3B4C188@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unfortunatly I don't have the desk space for the 17" monitor, so I'm using my slab as a remote shell ( I really have to use for the GUI right now anyway). Is there a way for me to install the .pkg archives w/o going back to the GUI? I would hate having to haul that heavy monitor up from the basement everytime I want to install something.
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Limit user logins Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.990125171912.385A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: <fSar2.222$lp.570292@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:44:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:44:11 EDT In <Pine.NXT.3.96.990125171912.385A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: > Is there a way on NS3.3 that I can limit a user to only access the machine > to pop over and get email, but not login or anything else? I tried > selecting "Disable Login" in UserManager, but I get some NetInfo error. Change their $SHELL to /bin/false and do not add /bin/false to /etc/shells (*) Change their $HOME to /nosuchdir or some other non-existant thing Change their password entry to "*" (`Disable Login' puts a * in front of their password entry, which disallows login) (*) those who are really paranoid will not want the regular shell script for /bin/false, but will want a compiled binary % cat false.c main() { exit(1); } % /bin/cc -o false false.c && strip false % mv false /bin/false I believe this will still allow them to connect to pop3 TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Limit user logins Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:21:14 -0800 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.990125171912.385A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Reply-To: " Is there a way on NS3.3 that I can limit a user to only access the machine to pop over and get email, but not login or anything else? I tried selecting "Disable Login" in UserManager, but I get some NetInfo error. Thanks. Robert
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Limit user logins Date: 26 Jan 1999 01:26:44 GMT Message-ID: <78j5kk$2ja$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.990125171912.385A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.96.990125171912.385A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> On 01/25/99, "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: > Is there a way on NS3.3 that I can limit a user to only access the > machine to pop over and get email, but not login or anything else? > I tried selecting "Disable Login" in UserManager, but I get some > NetInfo error. If you are just trying to disallow the user from telnetting to the machine from a remote machine (and you are not worried about them logging in at the console), then you could assign them a nonexistent shell (e.g. "nosh" ("no-shell")). Add the line "/bin/nosh" to /etc/shells. Assign that shell to the user in your netinfo system (UserManager.app). They can still ftp, and, I beleive, popover to get email. But thhey won't be able to telnet in. Ed --- Edward N. Zalta Senior Research Scholar, Center for the Study of Language and Information Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html -- Edward N. Zalta Senior Research Scholar, Center for the Study of Language and Information Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html
From: "Calvin Mitchell - Pacbell" <cal_mitc@pacbell.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <xE5q2.602$jW6.8308@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> <2z9q2.1199$If7.2250213@newshog.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Newbie: Shell Scripts on Openstep 4.2/Mach Message-ID: <ezbr2.6345$jW6.35049@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:32:14 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:32:10 PDT Organization: SBC Internet Services i'm not that new... the scripts are set to execute by owner, group & other. TjL wrote in message <2z9q2.1199$If7.2250213@newshog.newsread.com>... >In <xE5q2.602$jW6.8308@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> "Calvin Mitchell" wrote: >> Why can't i run /bin/sh scripts from the Terminal.app window without typing >> "/bin/sh <script>"??? > >Because they aren't executable. You need to 'chmod' it, such as 'chmod 755' >or 'chmod a+x' > >$ cat testprog >#!/bin/sh >echo hello there >exit 0 > >$ ./testprog >./testprog: cannot execute > >$ chmod a+x testprog > >$ ./testprog >hello there > > >easy as pie > >TjL > > >-- >"I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that >was possible. Then it dawned on me..... > AOL is sending out CDs now." - me >(Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) >
From: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: installing 3.3 on Cube w/o floppy Date: 26 Jan 1999 01:02:46 PST Organization: Caffeine Software Message-ID: <78k0bm$id4@chronicle.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I know I should know this, but it never occured to me until I got this bare-bones cube yesterday. If I have a 25MHz cube (ROM 2.5 v66), how can I install 3.3 on it w/o using a floppy? Thanks, - Stan --- Nature Travelogues: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~stanj/Travel NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com
From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Newbie: Shell Scripts on Openstep 4.2/Mach MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <xE5q2.602$jW6.8308@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> <2z9q2.1199$If7.2250213@newshog.newsread.com> <ezbr2.6345$jW6.35049@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Message-ID: <UTir2.1709$443.1506@news.rdc1.tx.home.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:52:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:52:04 PDT Organization: @Home Network Probably because the directory the script is in is not in a path set by cshrc. You can edit ~/.cshrc and add the full path to the directory the script is in, if you'll be using that directory's scripts often enough. As TjL noted, you can also type ./<script> to run it (note the dot before the slash), if the pwd for your Terminal shell is the directory the script is in. JP -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 26 Jan 1999 13:25:24 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <78kfo4$mdp$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> I saw it used from BuildDisk, if I recall corectly, on intel NS3.3. It is not mentioned in the man page, but the option seems to be accepted. but what does it do??? My current problem is to use a second EIDE drive with 6.8GB under OS4.2. People here wrote that a partition size of 4GB should be possible. First I configured the BIOS to LBA-mode to translate the drive geometry to <1024 cylinders. This seems necessary as OS4.2 only sees 509MB of the disk. Well, I then used fdisk to create one large NeXTSTEP partition and then used disk to make the file system (newfs/mkfs). All went well and I used the drive which reported 6.4GB of free space for a while. Then, we had a power failure and I needed fsck to clean the disk. AAAHHH! It was impossible to reconstruct the big drive!! even countless manual fdisk runs in single user did not help :-( I reinitialized it (using disk, thereby loosing my homedir...that hurts!), wrote a bit on it and then tested fsck on it: same desaster again! Therefore I now assume that I should better stick to 2GB partitions inside the one big fdisk-partition. Well, for this i do need a disktab entry. On the web I found many disktab entries for SCSI drives, but not a single one for an IDE drive! So I "created" one for 4 partitions. but whenever I try to use disk on it now, the system panics!! And I somewhere saw the ominous option -d to disk use3d somewhere...but what does it do??? I am pretty lost here...who can help? Bye, Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ)
From: "Rex Dieter" <rdieter@math.unl.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Limit user logins Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:41:05 -0600 Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <78ku66$pbb$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.990125171912.385A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> <fSar2.222$lp.570292@newshog.newsread.com> TjL wrote in message ... >In <Pine.NXT.3.96.990125171912.385A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> "Robert G. >Jacobs" wrote: > >> Is there a way on NS3.3 that I can limit a user to only access the machine >> to pop over and get email, but not login or anything else? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Change their password entry to "*" (`Disable Login' puts a * in front of >their password entry, which disallows login) Changing the password will also result in their not being able to login via pop3, so skip this step... (-; -Rex
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 26 Jan 1999 19:01:23 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <78l3e3$rv0$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <78ku3o$pb9$1@unlnews.unl.edu> In article <78ku3o$pb9$1@unlnews.unl.edu> "Rex Dieter" <rdieter@math.unl.edu> writes: > > Helmut Heller wrote in message <78kfo4$mdp$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>... > > >My current problem is to use a second EIDE drive with 6.8GB under OS4.2. > >People here wrote that a partition size of 4GB should be possible. First > Yep, > fdisk -p 4000000 /dev/rhd0a > will do the trick. EEK. I MEANT: disk -p 4000000 /dev/rhd0a sorry. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: mmueller007@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXTSTEP HELP!!! Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:08:28 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <78las6$eq8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> I'm trying to reboot to NeXTSTEP but right at the beginning I get this error message that 1) my system.config file is missing (or cannot be found, and 2) my Default-file cannot be found At this point I don't even get close to rebooting I have dual os (win95/NeXTSTEP) running on a Dell XPS166 w/ NeXTSTEP compatible CD-ROM (Mitsumi 8-speed ATAPI) and floppy drive (standard floppy controller). No SCSI floppy or CD-ROM. I would GREATLY appreciate ANY HELP and SUGGESTIONS on getting at least to root, from where I can fix the remaining problems myself. Please email you suggestion/help immediatly to mmueller007@hotmail.com Thanks, Marcus Mueller -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? Date: 26 Jan 1999 21:27:03 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Message-ID: <78lbv7$27o$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm trying to reactivate a nextstation and it appear to be blind (nothing on screen). I'm not sure if it's a monitor failure or else . Since i worked mostly with white hardware recently, i can't remember the EXACT (has to be typed blindly) keystroke sequence to get serial a as an alternate console and check if the system is booting. If some fellow could write it down and post or mail it to me, it would save me some time. BTW: A: what is the default speed of serial a ? B: is serial a operational from the early stage (rom monitor) or only when system is up ? thank to the dramatically vanishing NeXT community. (Where are the new people which should be interested in this system since it's now an Apple product of larger impact ?) -- Mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr : Adresse primaire / primary address Mailto:Max.Barel@wanadoo.fr : Adresse secondaire / secondary address (NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome) http://www.cuefa.inpg.fr/~max/Graal/ : Site du planeur Graal / Graal glider site http://perso.wanadoo.fr/max.barel/ : Site secondaire du planeur Graal / Graal glider secondary site
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Y2K 4.2 Patch fails to install patched RCS binaries Date: 26 Jan 1999 21:56:44 GMT Message-ID: <78ldms$ovu$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> We just installed the OPENSTEP 4.2 Y2K Patch on the Color Turbo in our lab running 4.2 The release notes from NeXTAnswers (i.e., 2671.html) says: > The version of RCS which shipped with OPENSTEP 4.2 did not handle > dates after 1999 correctly in some commands. This patch installs RCS > version 5.7, a much more recent version which does not experience > this date problem. Please see the RCS documentation for a complete > list of new and updated features in this release. However, after installing the patch, we looked in /usr/bin and found: ci.OS42, but no ci co.OS42, but no co rcsclean.OS42, but no rcsclean rcsdiff.OS42, but no rcsdiff rcsmerge.OS42, but no rcsmerge rcs.OS42, but no rcs So it looks like the patch doesn't install all the new files needed for RCS. (We downloaded this patch from NeXTAnswers (2659.html).) The funny thing is that all of the above files are "listed" as being in the package when, prior to installation, the Installer.app checks the files and reports. The Log View says "OK" for all these files, as if these will be files that will be installed. We did find both "at" and "at.OS42" as well as "atq" and "atq.OS42". But we also noticed there was "ident.OS42" without an "ident", as well as "rlog.OS42" without an "rlog". Any ideas what has gone wrong? Apple? Ed -- Edward N. Zalta Senior Research Scholar, Center for the Study of Language and Information Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html
From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Y2K 4.2 Patch fails to install patched RCS binaries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <78ldms$ovu$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: <1Grr2.1733$443.1506@news.rdc1.tx.home.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:51:41 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:51:41 PDT Organization: @Home Network I installed the patch a while back, and noted that /usr/lib/merge (Y2K corrected binary) is installed, but only the i386 version, not the m68k version. I just checked the files you found non-existant, and on my system, these are also present, but i386 only binaries. As well on my system, rlog is a i386-only binary. I installed the patch for both NeXT and Intel systems. Possibly binaries the package installed for these are i386-thin.....I had sent a mail to apple about the patch regarding /usr/lib/merge, but heard nothing back, will email again. Here is the address I got from NeXTAnswers to send Y2K questions to: Y2Kinfo@apple.com -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome
From: "yoonsik KANG" <easters@bellatlantic.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: [Help] Requesting "HOWTO" for Internet Connection under Bellatlantic.net Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 02:50:02 -0500 Organization: Bell Atlantic Internet Solutions Message-ID: <78lhe0$pgd@world6.bellatlantic.net> Hi, All. I am using a BellAtlantic.net Internet Dialup Service, currently. Is there anyway to use the internet connection under OpenStep 4.2? If you have some idea how to make it happen, or you are using that ISP at now, please give me any suggestions or your script files. Thanks for you helps. From Yoonsik KANG Best Regard
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Limit user logins Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.990125171912.385A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> <fSar2.222$lp.570292@newshog.newsread.com> <78ku66$pbb$1@unlnews.unl.edu> Message-ID: <Dasr2.436$lp.1234549@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:26:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:26:27 EDT In <78ku66$pbb$1@unlnews.unl.edu> "Rex Dieter" wrote: > Changing the password will also result in their not being able to login via > pop3, so skip this step... (-; Uh... yeah... what he said TjL, whacking himself with the stupid stick -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: installing 3.3 on Cube w/o floppy Date: 26 Jan 1999 21:30:51 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <78lc6b$h44$7@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <78k0bm$id4@chronicle.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stanj@caffeineSoft.com In <78k0bm$id4@chronicle.concentric.net> Stan Jirman wrote: > I know I should know this, but it never occured to me until I got this > bare-bones cube yesterday. If I have a 25MHz cube (ROM 2.5 v66), how can I > install 3.3 on it w/o using a floppy? > Don't think it can be done. Though I'd like to hear if it can. Randy Rencsok rencsok or spammers at ruin d0t the d0t internet d0t channelu d0t com http://www.channelu.com/Staff.html
From: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Machine refuses to format OD Date: 26 Jan 1999 20:06:09 PST Organization: Caffeine Software Message-ID: <78m3bh$f17@journal.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Part two of the 3.3 installation saga: since I can't boot off CD w/o a floppy, I want to build this OD with 3.3 on another cube. Problem is that when I insert the OD into the drive, it just spins up and down, up and down, for a few minutes and then it spits it out. This happens on 2.1 and 3.3 -- on a total of four OD drives which usually work fine (surprise surprise). How can I force-format an OD without the machine first trying to read it? Thanks, - Stan --- Nature Travelogues: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~stanj/Travel NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com
From: "Rex Dieter" <rdieter@math.unl.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:39:47 -0600 Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <78ku3o$pb9$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <78kfo4$mdp$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Helmut Heller wrote in message <78kfo4$mdp$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>... >My current problem is to use a second EIDE drive with 6.8GB under OS4.2. >People here wrote that a partition size of 4GB should be possible. First I Yep, fdisk -p 4000000 /dev/rhd0a will do the trick. Substitute a different partition size than 4000000 and/or a different partition number than /dev/rhd0a if you prefer. I know not of a -d parameter. -- Rex
From: "Seung-joo Lee" <feelfree@ppp.kornet21.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Using a NeXTStation w/o monitor Date: 27 Jan 1999 17:45:39 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Message-ID: <78njc3$5jc$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> References: <36AD2519.E3B4C188@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pokey069@hotmail.com In <36AD2519.E3B4C188@hotmail.com> pokey wrote: > Unfortunatly I don't have the desk space for the 17" monitor, so I'm > using my slab as a remote shell ( I really have to use for the GUI right > now anyway). Is there a way for me to install the .pkg archives w/o > going back to the GUI? I would hate having to haul that heavy monitor > up from the basement everytime I want to install something. > > Well, .pkg is just a directory that contains files. Change to that directory and uncompress .tar.Z file. And copy the uncompressed file to a directory you want. -- "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected piece of software on the planet." - Byte Seung-joo Lee feelfree@ppp.kornet21.net (NeXTmail Welcome!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Timothy J Luoma <nospam+yesthisisavalidaddressallthelivelong@fdt.net> Subject: Print filter help Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9901271417120.18949-100000@yoda.fdt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:19:04 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:19:18 EDT Organization: Florida Digital Turnpike (fdt.net) I would like to expiriment w/ a print filter (try to grok out some information from the PS file before it hits the printer). I can replace the if= entry in NetInfo but how do I muck with te actual PS file? Thanks TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: "Cliff Leong" <leong@NOSPAM.home.com> Subject: Re: installing 3.3 on Cube w/o floppy Message-ID: <F68HKy.6su@news2.new-york.net> References: <78k0bm$id4@chronicle.concentric.net> <78lc6b$h44$7@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:49:58 GMT If you're installing from a 3.3 CD, I don't think you can install without the floppy on non-turbo hardware, which he has. Cliff Leong spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com wrote in message <78lc6b$h44$7@msunews.cl.msu.edu>... >In <78k0bm$id4@chronicle.concentric.net> Stan Jirman wrote: >> I know I should know this, but it never occured to me until I got this >> bare-bones cube yesterday. If I have a 25MHz cube (ROM 2.5 v66), how can I >> install 3.3 on it w/o using a floppy? >> > >Don't think it can be done. Though I'd like to hear if it can. > >Randy Rencsok >rencsok or spammers at > ruin d0t the d0t internet d0t channelu d0t com > >http://www.channelu.com/Staff.html >
From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: installing 3.3 on Cube w/o floppy Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:53:05 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <78o1rt$ntv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <78k0bm$id4@chronicle.concentric.net> In article <78k0bm$id4@chronicle.concentric.net>, stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) wrote: > I know I should know this, but it never occured to me until I got this > bare-bones cube yesterday. If I have a 25MHz cube (ROM 2.5 v66), how can I > install 3.3 on it w/o using a floppy? > > Thanks, > - Stan > --- > > Nature Travelogues: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~stanj/Travel > NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com > > That depends. You do have a CD-ROM? Do you have another hardrive with 3.3 on it? Is the computer hooked to the network? When recently faced with this kind of difficulty I hooked a 4.1 system harddrive up and booted from it (had to change fstab file) and ran build disk on the new drive. If you have a way to hook it to another NeXT you should be able to boot it off of the net cable or just mount the drives remotely from the other NeXT. Jon The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: Richard <blackw@sfu.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:52:10 -0800 Organization: Simon Fraser University Message-ID: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm helping out a faculty member at our university, who uses NeXTStep 3.3 on a Turbo slab, with a problem in his mail package (NeXTMail 3.3 v118.2). If he composes a message such that the first word on a new line is "From", the mail client sees that line as the start of a new message. As a result, he receives a number of console messages stating: [MailHeaders Warning: malformed header line "..."] where "..." is a line from his mail message following the word "From". Also, his outgoing mail folder shows the original message, followed immediately by another message addressed to (the first word following "From"). For example, let's say he sent the following message to me with the subject "Randomization": I have been investigating randomization algorithms. From this research, I have found that (yada, yada, yada) algorithms in a binary system. When this message is sent, he would receive the following console message: [MailHeader Warning: malformed header line "research, I have found ..."] Further, in his outgoing mailbox, he would see a message sent to me with the subject Randomization, followed immediately by a message sent to "this". Looking in the mbox of his outgoing mail, I see that the REAL "From" labels in the message headers are not followed by a colon as are the other field labels. I believe that the mail client is parsing the messages in mbox by tokenizing on the "From" label. It should be tokenizing on a "From:" label, (which, however, is not being created). As a result, it is trying to create a header out of the body of his message, and thus the console messages. As I am personally not a NeXT-user, I have not been following this O/S or the NeXT newsgroups. Therefore, I would appreciate it if a NeXT guru could let me know whether or not this is a known bug, and if so, where or not there is a patch for it. Much thanks in advance. Cheers, Richard Blackwell blackw@sfu.ca Programmer/Analyst Simon Fraser University
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Using a NeXTStation w/o monitor Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <36AD2519.E3B4C188@hotmail.com> <78njc3$5jc$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> Message-ID: <sQPr2.395$DA.681578@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 02:21:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:21:12 EDT In <78njc3$5jc$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> "Seung-joo Lee" wrote: > In <36AD2519.E3B4C188@hotmail.com> pokey wrote: > > Unfortunatly I don't have the desk space for the 17" monitor, so I'm > > using my slab as a remote shell ( I really have to use for the GUI right > > now anyway). Is there a way for me to install the .pkg archives w/o > > going back to the GUI? I would hate having to haul that heavy monitor > > up from the basement everytime I want to install something. > > > > > > Well, > .pkg is just a directory that contains files. > Change to that directory and uncompress .tar.Z file. > And copy the uncompressed file to a directory you want. I don't think it is that easy. There's something about the .tar.Z in a .pkg that makes it more difficult to unpack than a regular .tar.Z (something about not looking like a regular .tar archive). The real key is probably the utilities in the Installer app wrapper, but I don't know how it would be done. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: Matt McClure <matthew.mcclure@yale.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: can't log in at console or remotely Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:50:00 -0500 Organization: Yale University Message-ID: <36AFDE68.836121CA@yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm very new to NeXT (~1 day), and I was trying to configure a TurboColor NeXTstation for use on a network. Now I can't log in. After entering the user name and password, the machine hangs on a blank blue screen at the console, and after telling me when my last login was when trying remotely. The last time I was able to log in successfully was just before setting the IP address, router address, host name, etc. I rebooted for these changes to take effect, and I can no longer log in. Is there some key combination that will allow me to get a text login at the console, or which will allow the current session to continue past where it hangs now? Thanks in advance, Matt
From: Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: installing 3.3 on Cube w/o floppy Date: 27 Jan 1999 15:35:06 +0100 Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Sender: twetzel@lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de Message-ID: <tqf1zkgdbs5.fsf@lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de> References: <78k0bm$id4@chronicle.concentric.net> <78lc6b$h44$7@msunews.cl.msu.edu> spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com writes: > In <78k0bm$id4@chronicle.concentric.net> Stan Jirman wrote: > > I know I should know this, but it never occured to me until I got this > > bare-bones cube yesterday. If I have a 25MHz cube (ROM 2.5 v66), how can I > > install 3.3 on it w/o using a floppy? > > > > Don't think it can be done. Though I'd like to hear if it can. Hmm. Wasn't there a) something like UpgradePrep.app with some releases to make a 2.x system CD-ready for an upgrade and b) an upgrade via network with an upgrade server? Install/BuildDisk to an OD on another system sounds easier, though ;-) Timm -- Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de> Biomed. NMR GmbH Tel +49 551 201-1091 FAX +49 551 201-1307 Am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Goettingen, Germany
From: bartosh@tamu.edu (Michael Bartosh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: DHCP/ NS3.3 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:16:23 -0600 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <bartosh-2701991016230001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:15:25 GMT OK maybe this has come up before... anywhere I can fet dgclient fo NS? I just got it working under NetBSD- my nice new Turbo slab is next. -mab
From: wiley_coyote@super.genius.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? Date: 28 Jan 1999 06:52:55 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <78p1g7$pq5$1@winter.news.rcn.net> References: <78lbv7$27o$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Jan 1999 06:52:55 GMT In Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? comp.sys.next.sysadmin MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max Barel) writes, > > I'm trying to reactivate a nextstation and it appear to be blind (nothing on > screen). I'm not sure if it's a monitor failure or else . Does the screen come up grey? If it does it could be that the power supply has gone south. > Since i worked mostly with white hardware recently, i can't remember the > EXACT (has to be typed blindly) keystroke sequence to get serial a as an > alternate console and check if the system is booting. I will email you with this information as I have two black NeXT machines. Probably sometime tomorrow as it is late and I need sleep... > If some fellow could write it down and post or mail it to me, it would save > me some time. > > BTW: > A: what is the default speed of serial a ? 9600bps > B: is serial a operational from the early stage (rom monitor) or only when > system is up ? Not sure... I have never needed to use this option myself... > thank to the dramatically vanishing NeXT community. (Where are the new people > which should be interested in this system since it's now an Apple product of > larger impact ?) Give it some time. Mac OS X only came out a few weeks ago and an Intel version of the OS is still very tenative. In addition, OPENSTEP lives on in the form of GNUSTEP. Later, Gregory Casamento -- gcasamen@erols.com
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? Distribution: world Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <78lbv7$27o$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> <78p1g7$pq5$1@winter.news.rcn.net> Message-ID: <kkUr2.909$DA.839290@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:28:16 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 02:28:16 EDT In <78p1g7$pq5$1@winter.news.rcn.net> wiley_coyote@super.genius.com wrote: > > thank to the dramatically vanishing NeXT community. (Where are the new people > > which should be interested in this system since it's now an Apple product of > > larger impact ?) > > Give it some time. Mac OS X only came out a few weeks ago and an Intel > version of the OS is still very tenative. Saying that an Intel version is "tenative" borders on the extreme far side of "optimistic", teetering over the edge of "plain insanity to cling to hope" But I'm right there w/ you, hoping all along > In addition, OPENSTEP lives on in the form of GNUSTEP. I'd be happy to see that project take off and prove me wrong I wish I had some programming skill to contribute. TjL, way off thread -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: cdbgraf@earthlink.net (christopher borden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Selective Archive-Restore? Date: 28 Jan 1999 07:53:38 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <78p522$r1k$2@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net> guys and gals of the knowing kind -- i made the mistake of backing up 1gb of stuff onto a multi-volume archive, i.e. 5 zips containing ".chunk" files. backup done from ns 3.3. now running os 4.2. the mistake was not realizing i'd need three times the free disk space of the uncompressed original in order to restore it, i.e. 3gbs. or so it seems from the model of another smaller backup i did have sufficient disk space to recover. as a workaround, how can i selectively restore from my archive? i don't need the whole thing anyway, just certain essentials. alternatively, anyone out there in nyc with enough disk space to help me out? thanks for any suggestions, chris borden
From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:11:47 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> In article <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca>, blackw@sfu.ca wrote: > I'm helping out a faculty member at our university, who uses NeXTStep > 3.3 on a Turbo slab, with a problem in his mail package (NeXTMail 3.3 > v118.2). If he composes a message such that the first word on a new > line is "From", the mail client sees that line as the start of a new > message. As a result, he receives a number of console messages stating: [snip] I can't reproduce the problem under Openstep 4.2, Mail.app keeps adding a ">" before the offending From ... so I guess it was a bug and it was corrected somewhere between NS 3.3 and OS 4.2. Is that machine running the patched version of NeXTStep? There was a patch made public a long time ago, take a look at: http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2066.htmld/2066.html http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2067.htmld/2067.html http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2068.htmld/2068.html Hope this helps. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:15:10 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Message-ID: <1999Jan28.211510.1586@news.online.de> References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:17:47 GMT Cc: rberber@my-dejanews.com In <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> rberber@my-dejanews.com wrote: > > I can't reproduce the problem under Openstep 4.2, Mail.app keeps adding a ">" > before the offending From ... so I guess it was a bug and it was corrected > somewhere between NS 3.3 and OS 4.2. I use Mail 3.3 (Version 118.2) under NS/m68k and it works fine, also adding a ">" before the From field.
From: Ryan Scott <scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: can't log in at console or remotely Date: 29 Jan 1999 00:23:45 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <78qv2h$bqb$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <36AFDE68.836121CA@yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: matthew.mcclure@yale.edu In <36AFDE68.836121CA@yale.edu> Matt McClure wrote: > Hi, > > I'm very new to NeXT (~1 day), and I was trying to configure a > TurboColor NeXTstation for use on a network. Now I can't log in. After > entering the user name and password, the machine hangs on a blank blue > screen at the console, and after telling me when my last login was when > trying remotely. > > The last time I was able to log in successfully was just before setting > the IP address, router address, host name, etc. I rebooted for these > changes to take effect, and I can no longer log in. Is there some key > combination that will allow me to get a text login at the console, or > which will allow the current session to continue past where it hangs > now? > > Thanks in advance, > Matt > You can avoid the GUI login by typing "console" for the user name. You can restart the window server by typing "exit" for a user name. The other option is to boot into single user mode using bsd -s from the ROM monitor. -- ________________________________________________ Ryan P. Scott Laser and Electro-Optics Research Group UC Davis - Department of Applied Science Tel: (530)754-4358 Fax: (530)752-1652 Email: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu ________________________________________________
From: wiley_coyote@super.genius.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? Date: 29 Jan 1999 00:44:12 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <78r08s$6p4$1@winter.news.rcn.net> References: <kkUr2.909$DA.839290@newshog.newsread.com> <78lbv7$27o$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> <78p1g7$pq5$1@winter.news.rcn.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jan 1999 00:44:12 GMT In Re: Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? comp.sys.next.sysadmin luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) writes, > In <78p1g7$pq5$1@winter.news.rcn.net> wiley_coyote@super.genius.com wrote: >> Give it some time. Mac OS X only came out a few weeks ago and an Intel >> version of the OS is still very tenative. > > Saying that an Intel version is "tenative" borders on the extreme far side of > "optimistic", teetering over the edge of "plain insanity to cling to hope" > > But I'm right there w/ you, hoping all along That's why I said *VERY* tenative. Apple did make a promise to at least provide one version on Intel to see how it flies. >> In addition, OPENSTEP lives on in the form of GNUSTEP. > > I'd be happy to see that project take off and prove me wrong > > I wish I had some programming skill to contribute. I do have skill to contribute and once I get ahold of Linux I intend to start helping. I have heard that the web sites are a little bit behind and that they are actually making a bit of progress. Last time I checked the gnustep-base (AppKit and other frameworks), and DGS ( a DPS replacement ) were very close to being finished. > TjL, way off thread Gregory "Even more off thread" Casamento
Message-ID: <36B125B9.D892ED81@ne.mediaone.net> From: Monty Brandenberg <mcbinc@ne.mediaone.net> Organization: MCB, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <1999Jan28.211510.1586@news.online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:06:33 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:06:13 EDT Thomas F. Unke wrote: > > I use Mail 3.3 (Version 118.2) under NS/m68k and it works fine, also adding a > ">" before the From field. Ditto here though I run with the 3.3Patch1 fixes and the Enhance mail bundle (Mail 3.3 reports Version 118.2(e1.3)). One curiosity though: only Mime mail handles the Berkeley mail 'From' flag correctly. If you type lines starting with 'From' and '>From' in the body, only mime mail displays correctly. -- Monty Brandenberg, Software Consultant MCB, Inc. mcbinc@ne.mediaone.net P.O. Box 426188 mcbinc@world.std.com Cambridge, MA 02142 617.864.6907
From: Timo Felbinger <timof@uranos.quantum.physik.uni-potsdam.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Print filter help Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:55:56 +0100 Organization: University of Potsdam Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990129120435.5128A-100000@uranos.quantum.physik.uni-potsdam.de> References: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9901271417120.18949-100000@yoda.fdt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Timothy J Luoma <nospam+yesthisisavalidaddressallthelivelong@fdt.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9901271417120.18949-100000@yoda.fdt.net> On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > I would like to expiriment w/ a print filter (try to grok out some > information from the PS file before it hits the printer). > > I can replace the if= entry in NetInfo but how do I muck with te actual PS > file? > You can use very simple scripts which reads from standard input and write to standard output: #!/bin/sh cat is a null-filter, doing nothing to the file (it just copies stdin to stdout), which can be useful as a first test. `sed' comes in handy for modifying files, like #!/bin/sh sed "s/before/after/g" or to extract information, like #!/bin/sh sed "3w some_file" in order to extract the 3rd line. I am actually using filters like #!/bin/sh sed 1d to remove the first line of garbage which our NeXT likes to prepend to the postscript code, or #!/bin/sh nice /usr/local/bin/gs -q -sDEVICE=ljet4 -dNOPAUSE -sPAPERSIZE=a4 \ -sOutputFile=- - /var/spool/quit.ps 2>/var/spool/lpd/gs.err which calls ghostscript to convert PS to PCL. Be aware of two catches: - Input filters are ignored for remote printers (those with a rm entry in NetInfo). - Sometimes dirty tricks are done when configuring local printers, using NetInfo entries like lp: /dev/null if: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver Here, the if is not simply a filter but does the actual printing, so you can't just replace it with one of the above scripts. You may have to resort to similar dirty tricks to get your filters working, using constructs like #!/bin/sh sed "s/before/after/g | lpr -PSomeOtherPrinter For local printers #!/bin/sh sed "s/before/after/g" | /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver might work, too (I haven't tried this). -- Timo Felbinger <Timo.Felbinger@quantum.physik.uni-potsdam.de> Quantum Physics Group Institute of Physics University of Potsdam, Germany
From: wiley_coyote@super.genius.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:09:30 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <78sfeq$2al$1@winter.news.rcn.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:09:30 GMT > > I'm trying to reactivate a nextstation and it appear to be blind (nothing > on screen). I'm not sure if it's a monitor failure or else . > Since i worked mostly with white hardware recently, i can't remember the > EXACT (has to be typed blindly) keystroke sequence to get serial a as an > alternate console and check if the system is booting. > > If some fellow could write it down and post or mail it to me, it would save > me some time. > 1) A few seconds after startup hit Cmd-Cmd-~ to enter the ROM-Monitor. 2) then hit "p" and enter 3) hit enter 9 more times, then type "yes" 4) Then hit enter 3 more times The above presumes you do not have a HW password set. If you do you must enter it after step 3. Later, --- Gregory Casamento -- gcasamen@NOSPAM.erols.com (You know what to do) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Anything is better than Microsoft!! Live free or die!!!!!
From: Brent A. Peterson <bap9@my-dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:13:51 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <78sfml$g41$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <78lbv7$27o$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> To: MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr In article <78lbv7$27o$1@platane.wanadoo.fr>, MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max Barel) wrote: > > I'm trying to reactivate a nextstation and it appear to be blind (nothing on > screen). I'm not sure if it's a monitor failure or else . > Since i worked mostly with white hardware recently, i can't remember the > EXACT (has to be typed blindly) keystroke sequence to get serial a as an > alternate console and check if the system is booting. > > If some fellow could write it down and post or mail it to me, it would save > me some time. Since I had a monitor go on my nextstation and couldnt tell what it was doing, I wrote down the squence last night when I set up another working monitor. Assuming the machine is booted and at the login prompt: Right Alternate command ~ (opens NMI window) mon <return> (jumps to rom monitor) p <return> (change system parameters) <return> (boot command) <return> (DRAM tests) <return> (Power on tests) <return> (sound test) <return> (SCSI tests) <return> (loop til keypress) <return> (verbose boot msgs) yes <return> (Serial A as alternate console) <=HERE :) <return> (block ROM cmd if hw password) <return> (block change in boot dev if hw password) <return> (Optical disk something) <return> (use parity for RAM) cont (closes rom monitor, return to login screen) power <return> (powers off and shuts down machine) No my question is as far as hooking up the terminal what needs to be done? I have an old ADM5 terminal that would work for this should it be required, do I just need to hook it up using my modem cable or is some other cabling required? -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:31:12 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <78sk80$oir$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <78kfo4$mdp$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Here my own answer: In article <78kfo4$mdp$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) writes: > I saw it used from BuildDisk, if I recall corectly, on intel NS3.3. > It is not mentioned in the man page, but the option seems to be accepted. but > what does it do??? > disk -h gives the meaninfull answer: -d density specify format density (in KBytes) well, whatever it might mean.... > My current problem is to use a second EIDE drive with 6.8GB under OS4.2. > People here wrote that a partition size of 4GB should be possible. First I > configured the BIOS to LBA-mode to translate the drive geometry to <1024 > cylinders. This seems necessary as OS4.2 only sees 509MB of the disk. This turned out to be wrong. One has to use special flags. See below! Here is my disktab entry and instructions on how to proceed: # Format a MAXTOR 6.8GB IDE drive # two partitions: 4GB and 2GB # (it is rumored that OpenStep4.2 can do 4GB partition) # I had first tried to use one 6.8GB partition. Everything # looked good until the first serious fsck() was due: # the drive was beyond repair and I had to make a new file # system! Maxtor 90680D4|maxtor:\ :ty=fixed_rw_ide:ns#63:nt#16:nc#13176:rm#3600:ss#512:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=pet:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#8388608:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:ia:ma=max 1:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#4194304:sb#4892480:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#16:db#4096:rb#5:ob=time:ib: mb=max2:tb=4.3BSD: To actually format the disk, proceed as follows: 1) You can use the NATIVE BIOS setting (no BIOS translation (e.g., LBA) is required). This is a plus if you have an old BIOS. 2) You have to use fdisk to create a NEXTSTEP partition. Since we don't use BIOS translation, we have to use the flag "-useAllSectors". In my case the maxtor disk is the second hard drive, so the raw device is /dev/rhd1h. I used: fdisk /dev/rhd1h -useAllSectors and created one big NEXTSTEP partition. Here is my output: fdisk /dev/rhd1h -useAllSectors I get: Device: /dev/rhd1h Type Start Size Status -------------------------------------------- NEXTSTEP 0 6485 Active Partition Table ---------------- Act H S Cyl Id H S Cyl Begin Size --- - - --- -- - - --- ----- ---- 80 1 1 0 a7 f 3f 377 3f caa841 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Disk Information ----------------- Disk statistics according to device driver and bios: device: 6485 Megabytes, 13281408 sectors bios: 504 Megabytes, 1031184 sectors cylinders = 1023, heads = 16, sectors/track = 63 3) The next step turned out to be VERY important: You have to write the disk label by hand! I don't know why, but this made all the difference between system panic and a usable disk in my case. So you use: disk -f -u /dev/rhd1a Again, please don't forget the -u flag to use non-BIOS sectors!!!! Here is my output: pet:6# disk -f -u /dev/rhd1a disk name: Maxtor 90680D4 disk type: fixed_rw_ide Disk utility disk> la label information: print, write? wr enter host name: pet enter disk label: maxtor WARNING: using information from /etc/disktab to construct new disk label. If all you want to do is change the host name or label name, then use the "host" or "name" commands. If the information in /etc/disktab doesn't match the disk geometry specified by the current disk label then the disk contents may be unreadable. OK to construct new disk label? y merging in bad block info from old label writing disk label disk> la label information: print, write? pr current label information on disk: disk label version #3 disk label: maxtor disk name: Maxtor 90680D4 disk type: fixed_rw_ide ncyls 13176 ntrack 16 nsect 63 rpm 3600 sector_size 512 front_porch 320 back_porch 0 ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_off 0 boot blocks: #1 at 64 #2 at 192 bootfile: sdmach host name: pet root partition: a part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type a 0 8388608 8192 1024 16 4096 5% yes time no 4.3BSD mount point: max1 b 4194304 4892480 8192 1024 16 4096 5% yes time no 4.3BSD mount point: max2 disk> q 4) From here on it is downhill: For each partition you have to make a new file system: pet:7# /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rhd1a setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 /etc/mkfs /dev/rhd1a 8388608 63 16 8192 1024 16 5 60 4096 s Warning: 976 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rhd1a: 8388608 sectors in 8323 cylinders of 16 tracks, 63 sectors 4295.0Mb in 521 cyl groups (16 c/g, 8.26Mb/g, 1984 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 32, 16224, 32416, 48608, 64800, 80992, 97184, 113376, 129568, 145760, 161952, 178144, 194336, 210528, 226720, 242912, 258080, 274272, 290464, 306656, 322848, 339040, 355232, 371424, 387616, 403808, 420000, 436192, 452384, 468576, 484768, 500960, 516128, 532320, 548512, 564704, 580896, 597088, 613280, 629472, 645664, 661856, 678048, 694240, 710432, 726624, 742816, 759008, 774176, 790368, 806560, 822752, 838944, 855136, 871328, 887520, 903712, 919904, 936096, 952288, 968480, 984672, 1000864, 1017056, 1032224, 1048416, 1064608, 1080800, 1096992, 1113184, 1129376, 1145568, 1161760, 1177952, 1194144, 1210336, 1226528, 1242720, 1258912, 1275104, 1290272, 1306464, 1322656, 1338848, 1355040, 1371232, 1387424, 1403616, 1419808, 1436000, 1452192, 1468384, 1484576, 1500768, 1516960, 1533152, 1548320, 1564512, 1580704, 1596896, 1613088, 1629280, 1645472, 1661664, 1677856, 1694048, 1710240, 1726432, 1742624, 1758816, 1775008, 1791200, 1806368, 1822560, 1838752, 1854944, 1871136, 1887328, 1903520, 1919712, 1935904, 1952096, 1968288, 1984480, 2000672, 2016864, 2033056, 2049248, 2064416, 2080608, 2096800, 2112992, 2129184, 2145376, 2161568, 2177760, 2193952, 2210144, 2226336, 2242528, 2258720, 2274912, 2291104, 2307296, 2322464, 2338656, 2354848, 2371040, 2387232, 2403424, 2419616, 2435808, 2452000, 2468192, 2484384, 2500576, 2516768, 2532960, 2549152, 2565344, 2580512, 2596704, 2612896, 2629088, 2645280, 2661472, 2677664, 2693856, 2710048, 2726240, 2742432, 2758624, 2774816, 2791008, 2807200, 2823392, 2838560, 2854752, 2870944, 2887136, 2903328, 2919520, 2935712, 2951904, 2968096, 2984288, 3000480, 3016672, 3032864, 3049056, 3065248, 3081440, 3096608, 3112800, 3128992, 3145184, 3161376, 3177568, 3193760, 3209952, 3226144, 3242336, 3258528, 3274720, 3290912, 3307104, 3323296, 3339488, 3354656, 3370848, 3387040, 3403232, 3419424, 3435616, 3451808, 3468000, 3484192, 3500384, 3516576, 3532768, 3548960, 3565152, 3581344, 3597536, 3612704, 3628896, 3645088, 3661280, 3677472, 3693664, 3709856, 3726048, 3742240, 3758432, 3774624, 3790816, 3807008, 3823200, 3839392, 3855584, 3870752, 3886944, 3903136, 3919328, 3935520, 3951712, 3967904, 3984096, 4000288, 4016480, 4032672, 4048864, 4065056, 4081248, 4097440, 4113632, 4128800, 4144992, 4161184, 4177376, 4193568, 4209760, 4225952, 4242144, 4258336, 4274528, 4290720, 4306912, 4323104, 4339296, 4355488, 4371680, 4386848, 4403040, 4419232, 4435424, 4451616, 4467808, 4484000, 4500192, 4516384, 4532576, 4548768, 4564960, 4581152, 4597344, 4613536, 4629728, 4644896, 4661088, 4677280, 4693472, 4709664, 4725856, 4742048, 4758240, 4774432, 4790624, 4806816, 4823008, 4839200, 4855392, 4871584, 4887776, 4902944, 4919136, 4935328, 4951520, 4967712, 4983904, 5000096, 5016288, 5032480, 5048672, 5064864, 5081056, 5097248, 5113440, 5129632, 5145824, 5160992, 5177184, 5193376, 5209568, 5225760, 5241952, 5258144, 5274336, 5290528, 5306720, 5322912, 5339104, 5355296, 5371488, 5387680, 5403872, 5419040, 5435232, 5451424, 5467616, 5483808, 5500000, 5516192, 5532384, 5548576, 5564768, 5580960, 5597152, 5613344, 5629536, 5645728, 5661920, 5677088, 5693280, 5709472, 5725664, 5741856, 5758048, 5774240, 5790432, 5806624, 5822816, 5839008, 5855200, 5871392, 5887584, 5903776, 5919968, 5935136, 5951328, 5967520, 5983712, 5999904, 6016096, 6032288, 6048480, 6064672, 6080864, 6097056, 6113248, 6129440, 6145632, 6161824, 6178016, 6193184, 6209376, 6225568, 6241760, 6257952, 6274144, 6290336, 6306528, 6322720, 6338912, 6355104, 6371296, 6387488, 6403680, 6419872, 6436064, 6451232, 6467424, 6483616, 6499808, 6516000, 6532192, 6548384, 6564576, 6580768, 6596960, 6613152, 6629344, 6645536, 6661728, 6677920, 6694112, 6709280, 6725472, 6741664, 6757856, 6774048, 6790240, 6806432, 6822624, 6838816, 6855008, 6871200, 6887392, 6903584, 6919776, 6935968, 6952160, 6967328, 6983520, 6999712, 7015904, 7032096, 7048288, 7064480, 7080672, 7096864, 7113056, 7129248, 7145440, 7161632, 7177824, 7194016, 7210208, 7225376, 7241568, 7257760, 7273952, 7290144, 7306336, 7322528, 7338720, 7354912, 7371104, 7387296, 7403488, 7419680, 7435872, 7452064, 7468256, 7483424, 7499616, 7515808, 7532000, 7548192, 7564384, 7580576, 7596768, 7612960, 7629152, 7645344, 7661536, 7677728, 7693920, 7710112, 7726304, 7741472, 7757664, 7773856, 7790048, 7806240, 7822432, 7838624, 7854816, 7871008, 7887200, 7903392, 7919584, 7935776, 7951968, 7968160, 7984352, 7999520, 8015712, 8031904, 8048096, 8064288, 8080480, 8096672, 8112864, 8129056, 8145248, 8161440, 8177632, 8193824, 8210016, 8226208, 8242400, 8257568, 8273760, 8289952, 8306144, 8322336, 8338528, 8354720, 8370912, 8387104, pet:8# /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rhd1b setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 /etc/mkfs /dev/rhd1b 4892480 63 16 8192 1024 16 5 60 4096 s Warning: 352 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rhd1b: 4892480 sectors in 4854 cylinders of 16 tracks, 63 sectors 2504.9Mb in 304 cyl groups (16 c/g, 8.26Mb/g, 1984 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 32, 16224, 32416, 48608, 64800, 80992, 97184, 113376, 129568, 145760, 161952, 178144, 194336, 210528, 226720, 242912, 258080, 274272, 290464, 306656, 322848, 339040, 355232, 371424, 387616, 403808, 420000, 436192, 452384, 468576, 484768, 500960, 516128, 532320, 548512, 564704, 580896, 597088, 613280, 629472, 645664, 661856, 678048, 694240, 710432, 726624, 742816, 759008, 774176, 790368, 806560, 822752, 838944, 855136, 871328, 887520, 903712, 919904, 936096, 952288, 968480, 984672, 1000864, 1017056, 1032224, 1048416, 1064608, 1080800, 1096992, 1113184, 1129376, 1145568, 1161760, 1177952, 1194144, 1210336, 1226528, 1242720, 1258912, 1275104, 1290272, 1306464, 1322656, 1338848, 1355040, 1371232, 1387424, 1403616, 1419808, 1436000, 1452192, 1468384, 1484576, 1500768, 1516960, 1533152, 1548320, 1564512, 1580704, 1596896, 1613088, 1629280, 1645472, 1661664, 1677856, 1694048, 1710240, 1726432, 1742624, 1758816, 1775008, 1791200, 1806368, 1822560, 1838752, 1854944, 1871136, 1887328, 1903520, 1919712, 1935904, 1952096, 1968288, 1984480, 2000672, 2016864, 2033056, 2049248, 2064416, 2080608, 2096800, 2112992, 2129184, 2145376, 2161568, 2177760, 2193952, 2210144, 2226336, 2242528, 2258720, 2274912, 2291104, 2307296, 2322464, 2338656, 2354848, 2371040, 2387232, 2403424, 2419616, 2435808, 2452000, 2468192, 2484384, 2500576, 2516768, 2532960, 2549152, 2565344, 2580512, 2596704, 2612896, 2629088, 2645280, 2661472, 2677664, 2693856, 2710048, 2726240, 2742432, 2758624, 2774816, 2791008, 2807200, 2823392, 2838560, 2854752, 2870944, 2887136, 2903328, 2919520, 2935712, 2951904, 2968096, 2984288, 3000480, 3016672, 3032864, 3049056, 3065248, 3081440, 3096608, 3112800, 3128992, 3145184, 3161376, 3177568, 3193760, 3209952, 3226144, 3242336, 3258528, 3274720, 3290912, 3307104, 3323296, 3339488, 3354656, 3370848, 3387040, 3403232, 3419424, 3435616, 3451808, 3468000, 3484192, 3500384, 3516576, 3532768, 3548960, 3565152, 3581344, 3597536, 3612704, 3628896, 3645088, 3661280, 3677472, 3693664, 3709856, 3726048, 3742240, 3758432, 3774624, 3790816, 3807008, 3823200, 3839392, 3855584, 3870752, 3886944, 3903136, 3919328, 3935520, 3951712, 3967904, 3984096, 4000288, 4016480, 4032672, 4048864, 4065056, 4081248, 4097440, 4113632, 4128800, 4144992, 4161184, 4177376, 4193568, 4209760, 4225952, 4242144, 4258336, 4274528, 4290720, 4306912, 4323104, 4339296, 4355488, 4371680, 4386848, 4403040, 4419232, 4435424, 4451616, 4467808, 4484000, 4500192, 4516384, 4532576, 4548768, 4564960, 4581152, 4597344, 4613536, 4629728, 4644896, 4661088, 4677280, 4693472, 4709664, 4725856, 4742048, 4758240, 4774432, 4790624, 4806816, 4823008, 4839200, 4855392, 4871584, 4887776, pet:9# 5) Now you have to create the /etc/fstab entries: /dev/hd1a /max1 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 /dev/hd1b /max2 4.3 rw,noquota 0 3 6) Now reboot and you should be all set :-) -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ)
From: bartosh@tamu.edu (Michael Bartosh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Openstep 4.o DHCP Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:34:20 -0600 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <bartosh-2901990934200001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:33:21 GMT OK I got the DHCP pkg from Peak... However, I get the following error on boot. <date/time> thresher dhclient: Netinfo connection timed out: RPC: Timed out <date/time> thresher npd[152]: NetInfo connection timed out: RPC: Timed out <date/time> thresher dhclient: Netinfo connection timed out: RPC: Timed out <date/time> thresher npd[152]: NetInfo connection timed out: RPC: Timed out <date/time> thresher lookupd[102]: NetInfo connection timed out: RPC: Timed out <date/time> thresher lookupd[102]: NetInfo connection failed for server 127.0.0.1/local <keeps on like this> Repeats same mssg, except about the WindowServer. What's up? ,,,I think I followed directions, but I have a question about where the en_address property goes... Do you doubleclick on machines and add it in that dialogue, or do you doubleclick on 'localhost' and add it there... -mab -- Michael Bartosh Student Rep Apple Computer, Inc. bartosh@tamu.edu
From: jshomphe@saims.skidmore.edu (joseph shomphe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Samba Printing Help? Date: 29 Jan 1999 16:53:00 GMT Organization: Skidmore College Message-ID: <78sp1c$ak2$1@calvin.skidmore.edu> Im trying to get samba up and running on my Turbo Color slab running OS 4.2, Everything is working well (file sharing), except for printing. I know I have something wrong, but cant figure it out...if possible, could somone post or email a working configuration file? I am using a NeXT Laser printer attatched to the slab. Thanks for the help jshomphe@skidmore.edu
From: Richard <blackw@sfu.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:09:11 -0800 Organization: Simon Fraser University Message-ID: <36B23187.87DCEA23@sfu.ca> References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <1999Jan28.211510.1586@news.online.de> <36B125B9.D892ED81@ne.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Thomas F. Unke wrote: > > > > I use Mail 3.3 (Version 118.2) under NS/m68k and it works fine, also adding a Thomas, have you installed the 3.3Patch1? If not, it is odd that you'd be using the same O/S release (3.3), on the same hardware (NS/m86k), using the same mailer (Mail 2.2 v 118.2), but getting different behaviour! Monty Brandenberg wrote: > Ditto here though I run with the 3.3Patch1 fixes and the Enhance > mail bundle (Mail 3.3 reports Version 118.2(e1.3)). Monty; was the Enhanced mail (e1.3) a patch, and upgrade, or ? I've downloaded 3.3Patch1 and will be installing it next Wednesday. I'll post back how things turn out. Cheers, Richard Blackwell Programmer/Analyst Simon Fraser University Burnaby, BC CANADA
From: "Kapil Sehgal" <kapil.sehgal@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: install linux on PC Date: 29 Jan 1999 20:33:59 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <78t5vn$gd2@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Hi I want to install linux on my PC. Do I have to partion my hard disc? If yes, how do I do it? thanks
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:19:35 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Message-ID: <1999Jan30.121935.404@news.online.de> References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <1999Jan28.211510.1586@news.online.de> <36B125B9.D892ED81@ne.mediaone.net> <36B23187.87DCEA23@sfu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Jan 1999 15:01:48 GMT Cc: blackw@sfu.ca In <36B23187.87DCEA23@sfu.ca> Richard wrote: > > Thomas F. Unke wrote: > > > > > > I use Mail 3.3 (Version 118.2) under NS/m68k and it works fine, also adding a > > Thomas, have you installed the 3.3Patch1? If not, it is odd that you'd > be using the same O/S release (3.3), on the same hardware (NS/m86k), > using the same mailer (Mail 2.2 v 118.2), but getting different > behaviour! I'm not sure if it has been patched. But I forgot to mention that I also use EnhanceMail, which you can get for free, perhabs you should try it first. EnhanceMail is very recommended anyway.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE Message-ID: <HO$ShtGa0y53@cc.usu.edu> From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 1 Feb 99 08:46:39 MDT References: <7920p9$m9c$1@sibyl.sunrise.ch> <794dls$7rp$1@unlnews.unl.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <794dls$7rp$1@unlnews.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote: > In article <7920p9$m9c$1@sibyl.sunrise.ch> marmier4@hei.unige.ch writes: > > In Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... > comp.sys.next.sysadmin heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) writes, > > > >> My current problem is to use a second EIDE drive with 6.8GB under > > >> OS4.2. People here wrote that a partition size of 4GB should be > > >> possible. > > > Are you sure about the 4Gb partition? There were a number of posts in the > > past stating a 2Gb limitation in the kernel itself. > > For the record, on OS 4.2, you CAN have partitions > 2GB (but < 4GB). They > work. I'm using 4 of them right now. I'm very curious about this. Have you tested the partitions in a manner that data has been written to blocks above the 2GB mark? Are you sure that such data is going where it should, and not being wrapped around to a lower block number? This would be great if we can pin down for certain that it really does work. Thanks for more enlightenment, edx
From: "Andy Dunn" <andydunn@op.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Considering netinstall of NS 3.3 intel Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:43:23 -0500 Organization: OpNet -- Greater Philadelphia Internet Service Message-ID: <78vneg$ivu$1@picasso.op.net> I have been trying to install NS 3.3 on my Pentium box, without any success. I just can't get it to recognize my SCSI controller (Adaptec 1505A). I am considering trying a netinstall from my NeXTstation (non-turbo, mono, running 3.3), but I have almost no networking experience. Will I have to uninstall PPP from my slab to get it to recognize the network connection with the PC? Any recommendations as to ethernet cards to put on the PC to try this? Any and all advice is appeciated. Thanks, _andy (andydunn@op.net)
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 1 Feb 1999 18:14:22 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <794qtu$7qt$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <794h6q$r65$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Thank you very much for your speedy reply! You wrote: > sector_size 1024 front_porch 160 back_porch 0 This looks like you used 1024bytes/sector after all. I have to check and see what my label says at home (I am in my office now). Could be that the 4GB limit is only available if you use 1024bytes/sector, as there may be a limit to how many sectors you can address. I have a hunch that this is the "secret" behind 4GB vs. 2GB. If my label should report 512bytes/sector, I will reformat once again, using 1024bytes/sector (I also have a feeling that this 1024bytes/sector is independent of the actual physical disk sector size). Any comments? I'll mail back tomorrow! Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ)
From: Richard Tilley <Betty Siren@pangea.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: installing 3.3 on Cube w/o floppy Date: 30 Jan 1999 16:57:30 -0600 Organization: Pangea.CA, Inc. Message-ID: <7902oq$m5f@surf.pangea.ca> References: <78k0bm$id4@chronicle.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Jan 1999 22:59:41 GMT stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) writes: >I know I should know this, but it never occured to me until I got this >bare-bones cube yesterday. If I have a 25MHz cube (ROM 2.5 v66), how can I >install 3.3 on it w/o using a floppy? Stan ... It wouldn't hurt to try setting the SCSI ID of the CDROM drive to 0 any typing bsd in the ROM monitor. I vaguely recall this working on a cube years ago. Before NS 3.3. ... Richard
From: MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? Date: 31 Jan 1999 00:08:29 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Distribution: world Message-ID: <7906tt$i99$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> References: <78lbv7$27o$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> <78p1g7$pq5$1@winter.news.rcn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: wiley_coyote@super.genius.com In <78p1g7$pq5$1@winter.news.rcn.net> wiley_coyote@super.genius.com wrote: > In Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? comp.sys.next.sysadmin > MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max Barel) writes, > > > > > I'm trying to reactivate a nextstation and it appear to be blind (nothing on > > screen). I'm not sure if it's a monitor failure or else . > > Does the screen come up grey? If it does it could be that the power > supply has gone south. > No. The screen is totally blank but i can hear some electrostatic noise from the HT inside. This for sure is a proof for the power to be on in the monitor. I'm afraid this could be either a dead tube or else lack of synchro signal. I need to customize a connector to connect the pizza box to my white multisync monitor to check this but didn't took the time yet. BTW: i remember two or three occurrence of blank monitor on this very same station when it was up and running, with screen saving on, i had to disconnect the power chord from the monitor to have it coming up again. Has someone seen an understood this sequence ?? Brent A. Peterson did post and mail me a keystroke sequence i'll test it today. Thank you and stay alive in these NG ! -- Mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr : Adresse primaire / primary address Mailto:Max.Barel@wanadoo.fr : Adresse secondaire / secondary address (NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome) http://www.cuefa.inpg.fr/~max/Graal/ : Site du planeur Graal / Graal glider site http://perso.wanadoo.fr/max.barel/ : Site secondaire du planeur Graal / Graal glider secondary site
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: installing 3.3 on Cube w/o floppy Date: 31 Jan 1999 02:30:36 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <790f8c$sgk$1@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <7902oq$m5f@surf.pangea.ca> In article <7902oq$m5f@surf.pangea.ca> Richard Tilley <Betty Siren@pangea.ca> writes: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) writes: > >>I know I should know this, but it never occured to me until I got this >>bare-bones cube yesterday. If I have a 25MHz cube (ROM 2.5 v66), how can I >>install 3.3 on it w/o using a floppy? > > >It wouldn't hurt to try setting the SCSI ID of the >CDROM drive to 0 any typing bsd in the ROM monitor. > >I vaguely recall this working on a cube years ago. >Before NS 3.3. Certainly it doesn't hurt to try, because it will work under some conditions. This works in general if there is some vestiges of NS3.x left on the HD (most importently the boot block), which will be able to kick start CDROM loading. It is not necessary for the HD to be able to boot. However, if the last version of the OS is 2.x or earlier, or if the HD had been wiped totally clean, it will not probably work. Also note that the kick start disk does not have to be a floppy. It can be a SCSI hard drive, or if you have a fried with a ZIP drive, that will work too. There can be a small problem with what /etc/fstab will contain, if you install NS using CDROM ID set to 0: The root partition may be set to load from sd1a, which you must edit to sd0a for the disk to boot after CDROM is removed (or moved to higher ID number). I.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <13193917154022@digifix.com> Date: 31 Jan 1999 04:44:42 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <29381917758824@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) Subject: Re: DHCP/ NS3.3 References: <bartosh-2701991016230001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/ Originator: gtf@theorem Message-ID: <u%Vs2.7$X3.66@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:11:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 02:11:38 PDT In article <bartosh-2701991016230001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu>, Michael Bartosh <bartosh@tamu.edu> wrote: >OK maybe this has come up before... anywhere I can fet dgclient fo NS? I >just got it working under NetBSD- my nice new Turbo slab is next. > >-mab I have gotten dhclient working under NS3.2, but it is a terrible hack. I am still waiting for someone to tell me the system call to determine the hardware ether address (6-byte hex address). Once I have this, I can post the file that will get it working easily for everyone. Someone please help (Avi Tevanian, where are you when I need you?) Cheers g. -- I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)cirp.org> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: DHCP/ NS3.3 Date: 1 Feb 1999 20:28:58 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <7952qa$lvb$2@news.spacelab.net> References: <bartosh-2701991016230001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> <u%Vs2.7$X3.66@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) wrote: [ ... ] > I have gotten dhclient working under NS3.2, but it is a terrible hack. > I am still waiting for someone to tell me the system call to determine the > hardware ether address (6-byte hex address). Once I have this, I can post > the file that will get it working easily for everyone. Someone please help > (Avi Tevanian, where are you when I need you?) On a lot of systems, the first three bytes are constant (the vendor ID), and the last three can be seen from gethostid(). However, this is not a terribly portable solution; a better way is to use ether_hostton(). -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: installing 3.3 on Cube w/o floppy Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:42:58 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Message-ID: <1999Jan31.104258.471@news.online.de> References: <7902oq$m5f@surf.pangea.ca> <790f8c$sgk$1@agate.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Jan 1999 10:27:19 GMT Cc: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu In <790f8c$sgk$1@agate.berkeley.edu> Izumi Ohzawa wrote: > > Also note that the kick start disk does not have to be > a floppy. It can be a SCSI hard drive, or if you have > a fried with a ZIP drive, that will work too. Just for curiosity: Would it be possible to boot the kick start image from another machine over ethernet?
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: DHCP/ NS3.3 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:42:03 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Message-ID: <1999Jan31.114203.695@news.online.de> References: <bartosh-2701991016230001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> <u%Vs2.7$X3.66@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Jan 1999 12:07:17 GMT Cc: gtf[@]cirp.org In <u%Vs2.7$X3.66@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Geoffrey T. Falk wrote: > > I have gotten dhclient working under NS3.2, but it is a terrible hack. > I am still waiting for someone to tell me the system call to determine the > hardware ether address (6-byte hex address). Once I have this, I can post > the file that will get it working easily for everyone. Someone please help > (Avi Tevanian, where are you when I need you?) You can grep /usr/adm/messages: # grep 'en0: Ethernet' /usr/adm/messages | awk '{print $9}'|uniq 00:00:0f:00:90:05
From: fenris@aol.comANTISPAM (Fenris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [Q] WWDC OPENSTEP 4.2 on black hardware? Date: 2 Feb 1999 01:06:08 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <19990201163205.09537.00003983@ng-cg1.aol.com> Message-ID: <19990201200608.01108.00003174@ng-ch1.aol.com> I've answered my own question, or rather, Scott Anguish has. From Stepwise: What architectures does the Prelude to Rhapsody CD support? The Prelude to Rhapsody/OpenStep 4.2 PR2 CD is tri-fat. It has m68K, Sparc and Intel binaries on the CD. However, the CD only comes with boot floppies for Intel. For installing on m68K systems (NeXT hardware) you can use the 3.3 Boot Floppy Image available via NextAnswers. Apparently the Sparc installation can be started directly from the CD.
From: gerben@Spike.rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:43:17 GMT Organization: R&A Message-ID: <F6FL05.1A6@RnA.nl> References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Jan 1999 16:15:18 GMT Cc: blackw@sfu.ca In <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> Richard wrote: > I'm helping out a faculty member at our university, who uses NeXTStep > 3.3 on a Turbo slab, with a problem in his mail package (NeXTMail 3.3 > v118.2). If he composes a message such that the first word on a new > line is "From", the mail client sees that line as the start of a new > message. As a result, he receives a number of console messages stating: > > [MailHeaders Warning: malformed header line "..."] Etc. Are there any special headers added in the expert part of Preferences? -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. "Your io is pretty std" -- Larry Wall
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) Subject: Re: DHCP/ NS3.3 References: <bartosh-2701991016230001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> <1999Jan31.114203.695@news.online.de> <HC%s2.242$X3.250@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> <1999Jan31.202535.1598@news.online.de> Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/ Originator: gtf@theorem Message-ID: <8f5t2.411$X3.938@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:59:16 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:59:16 PDT OK, thanks for the tip. I wasn't sure that every NeXT ether address began with 0x00 00 0f. Assuming this is the case, the following should work. First, get BPF and then get the package "dhcp-970609mach.tar.gz" from one of the archive sites. Play with it until you can get it to compile (I didn't have much trouble). Then apply the following diff to the file "common/dispatch.c": < #if defined (SIOCGIFHWADDR) && !defined (AF_LINK) --- > #if defined (SIOCGIFHWADDR) && !defined (AF_LINK) && !defined(NeXT) > 224a226,240 > > } /* switch */ > > #else /*[gtf]*/ > { > unsigned long en_addr; > en_addr = (gethostid() & 0xffffff) + 0x00000f000000; > tmp -> hw_address.hlen = 6; > tmp -> hw_address.htype = ARPHRD_ETHER; > (tmp->hw_address.haddr)[0] = 0x00; > (tmp->hw_address.haddr)[1] = 0x00; > (tmp->hw_address.haddr)[2] = (en_addr>>24) & 0xff; > (tmp->hw_address.haddr)[3] = (en_addr>>16) & 0xff; > (tmp->hw_address.haddr)[4] = (en_addr>>8) & 0xff; > (tmp->hw_address.haddr)[5] = en_addr & 0xff; 225a242 > I haven't tested this exactly as written, so let me know if you have problems. Cheers g. -- I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)cirp.org> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
From: dallas@xecu.net (Dallas Kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Samba Printing Help? Message-ID: <36b525be.99522211@news.xecu.net> References: <78sp1c$ak2$1@calvin.skidmore.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 03:56:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:57:58 EDT What kind of machines are you trying to print with? Windows, Mac.... On 29 Jan 1999 16:53:00 GMT, jshomphe@saims.skidmore.edu (joseph shomphe) wrote: >Im trying to get samba up and running on my Turbo Color slab running >OS 4.2, Everything is working well (file sharing), except for >printing. I know I have something wrong, but cant figure it out...if >possible, could somone post or email a working configuration file? > >I am using a NeXT Laser printer attatched to the slab. > >Thanks for the help >jshomphe@skidmore.edu
From: Maarten Huisjes <maarten@emendo.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: installing 3.3 on Cube w/o floppy Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:55:13 +0100 Organization: PSINet Message-ID: <36B57A01.808C9978@emendo.nl> References: <7902oq$m5f@surf.pangea.ca> <790f8c$sgk$1@agate.berkeley.edu> <1999Jan31.104258.471@news.online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Thomas F. Unke" wrote: > > In <790f8c$sgk$1@agate.berkeley.edu> Izumi Ohzawa wrote: > > > > > Also note that the kick start disk does not have to be > > a floppy. It can be a SCSI hard drive, or if you have > > a fried with a ZIP drive, that will work too. > > Just for curiosity: Would it be possible to boot the kick start image from > another machine over ethernet? Sure from either an other NeXT or any other machine that supports bootparamd & bootpd, you should be able to supply any bootimage. I haven't actually tried this but I did do something like this for a router. -- Maarten Huisjes Emendo Software Group P.O. Box 3108 2130 KC HOOFDDORP Tel. +31 23 5622929 The Netherlands Fax. +31 23 5627052
From: fenris@aol.comANTISPAM (Fenris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: [Q] WWDC OPENSTEP 4.2 on black hardware? Date: 1 Feb 1999 21:32:05 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990201163205.09537.00003983@ng-cg1.aol.com> Kind of a newbie question: In 1997, at Apple's World Wide Developers' Conference, attendees were given a copy of OPENSTEP for Mach 4.2 Prerelease 2 (entitled "Prelude to Rhapsody"). The Apple handout that came with it seemed to indicate that the package was for Intel hardware only. The boot and driver floppies that came with it were for Intel. Can anybody tell me if these CD's have Motorola binaries on them as well, or at least a way to check? I've got OPENSTEP running on Virtual PC for the Mac (not half-bad on a fast G3), pending arrival of my black hardware, so I can examine the files on the CD's. (I know that the Dev Tools CD is OK, since the installer asks which binaries I want installed.) TIA, John Willoughby
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: DHCP/ NS3.3 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:25:35 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Message-ID: <1999Jan31.202535.1598@news.online.de> References: <bartosh-2701991016230001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> <u%Vs2.7$X3.66@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> <1999Jan31.114203.695@news.online.de> <HC%s2.242$X3.250@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Jan 1999 20:46:56 GMT Cc: gtf[@]cirp.org In <HC%s2.242$X3.250@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Geoffrey T. Falk wrote: > > > >You can grep /usr/adm/messages: > > > ># grep 'en0: Ethernet' /usr/adm/messages | awk '{print $9}'|uniq > >00:00:0f:00:90:05 > > > That would have to run from a shell. Call me stubborn, but that seems a bit > inelegant when it should be a simple ioctl(). OK, one more: main() { long en_address; en_address = (gethostid() & 0xffffff) + 0x00000f000000; printf("en_address = 0x%x.\n", en_address); }
From: penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Want MacOS X Server for Intel? Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:11:00 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <794241$lhu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Wouldn't you like to see MacOS X Server for intel? Since MacWorld, a large number of former NeXTstep and Openstep users have felt wronged by Apple's change of plans regarding the release of MacOS X Server CR1 for intel. If you are one of these people, or feel that you would use MacOS X Server for intel if it were available, please send email to leadership@apple.com and express these concerns. Please make the subject header of your email concise and relevant as we don't know how Apple actually uses this email. A short subject will be helpful if Apple does a quick attitude survey of the email. Use something like: "Release MacOS X Server for Intel" But please try to be optimistic and explain your needs to Apple in the body of your message. If this decision by Apple is causing you to leave the platform, tell them. If it bothers you that Apple has a working version of MacOS X Server for intel but they are refusing to release it, tell them also. And though it may be naive to think this matters, it doesn't hurt to tell them how long you have been a customer. Such information may make a difference to a conscientious employee at Apple. If you do choose to send email, please send a copy to me also, so I can collect the results, and they will be posted on Stepwise's website: http://www.stepwise.com/ On the Stepwise site, you will can also find results for Scott Anguish's letter request concerning "The High Cost of Mac OS X Server". Send your email to: leadership@apple.com and penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp Thank you, Christopher Penrose penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: wolfgang.roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de (Wolfgang Rpckelein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? Date: 1 Feb 1999 13:59:38 GMT Organization: Uni Regensburg Distribution: world Message-ID: <794c0a$p7@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> References: <78lbv7$27o$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> <78p1g7$pq5$1@winter.news.rcn.net> <7906tt$i99$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr In <7906tt$i99$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> Max Barel wrote: > BTW: i remember two or three occurrence of blank monitor on this very same > station when it was up and running, with screen saving on, i had to > disconnect the power chord from the monitor to have it coming up again. > Has someone seen an understood this sequence ?? Yes, I have this approx. once in a week. I would be grateful if someone has an idea what is going on here. Wolfgang -- Dr. Voice: +49 941 943 3205 Wolfgang Roeckelein Fax: +49 941 943 3211 Uni Regensburg E-Mail: Wolfgang.Roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de Universitaetsstr. 31 (MIME and NeXTmail ok) D-93053 Regensburg Talk: row01458@pcrw11.uni-regensburg.de Germany WWW: http://www-wi.uni-regensburg.de/~row01458/ GCM/B d-- s: a- C++ US+++$ UX+++ P+ L E? W++ N++ w-- O-(++) M+ !V PS++ PE Y+ PGP(++) t+ 5? X? R+ tv b++ DI D++ G e++++ h+ r y? (Geek Code V3.x) För den BND: Plutonium RAF Pullach Waffe PGP Geheim Munition Kanther Kurde Sex
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 1 Feb 1999 14:28:12 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <794dls$7rp$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <7920p9$m9c$1@sibyl.sunrise.ch> In article <7920p9$m9c$1@sibyl.sunrise.ch> marmier4@hei.unige.ch writes: > In Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... comp.sys.next.sysadmin heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) writes, > >> My current problem is to use a second EIDE drive with 6.8GB under > >> OS4.2. People here wrote that a partition size of 4GB should be > >> possible. > Are you sure about the 4Gb partition? There were a number of posts in the > past stating a 2Gb limitation in the kernel itself. For the record, on OS 4.2, you CAN have partitions > 2GB (but < 4GB). They work. I'm using 4 of them right now. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? Date: 1 Feb 1999 00:08:59 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Message-ID: <792rar$rth$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> References: <78lbv7$27o$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> <78sfml$g41$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: bap9@my-dejanews.com In <78sfml$g41$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Brent A. Peterson wrote: > Assuming the machine is booted and at the login prompt: > ><<sequence deleted>> I tried today with no success. The reason is probably that hardware password is set. I know it but don't know when EXACTLY in the sequence it has to be typed. Any idea ? -- Mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr : Adresse primaire / primary address Mailto:Max.Barel@wanadoo.fr : Adresse secondaire / secondary address (NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome) http://www.cuefa.inpg.fr/~max/Graal/ : Site du planeur Graal / Graal glider site http://perso.wanadoo.fr/max.barel/ : Site secondaire du planeur Graal / Graal glider secondary site
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE Date: 1 Feb 1999 18:07:23 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <794qgr$e8f$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <HO$ShtGa0y53@cc.usu.edu> In article <HO$ShtGa0y53@cc.usu.edu> writes: > In <794dls$7rp$1@unlnews.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote: > > For the record, on OS 4.2, you CAN have partitions > 2GB (but < 4GB). > > They work. I'm using 4 of them right now. > I'm very curious about this. Have you tested the partitions in a manner > that data has been written to blocks above the 2GB mark? Are you sure > that such data is going where it should, and not being wrapped around to > a lower block number? Yes, I tested it. I even made a partition bigger than 4GB, but it stopped writing data to it at the 4GB mark, proving an upper bound of 4GB. (as a side note, at the same time I tried similar tests with Rhapsody DR2, and it easily partitioned to a single ~9GB slice... too bad I can't comment on the benchmarks... other than to say I was happy (-; ) > This would be great if we can pin down for certain that it really does > work. YES, it works! How many times do I need to say it. It works... It works. I mean, at least, it is working just fine with 4 9GB disks (partitioned with 1 ~3GB slice, and 3 ~2GB slices) on a heavily used file server here at this very moment. Does that count? (-; -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: "ugh" <nukem@usaor.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <78t5vn$gd2@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: install linux on PC Message-ID: <UGmt2.1177$Af5.324837@news.sgi.net> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:50:10 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 13:49:24 EDT Organization: Stargate Industries, LLC. wrong group budy Kapil Sehgal wrote in message <78t5vn$gd2@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>... >Hi >I want to install linux on my PC. >Do I have to partion my hard disc? >If yes, how do I do it? >thanks > > >
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 1 Feb 1999 20:19:24 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <79528c$lvb$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <794h6q$r65$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> <794qtu$7qt$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) wrote: [ ... ] >If my label should report 512bytes/sector, I will reformat once again, >using 1024bytes/sector (I also have a feeling that this >1024bytes/sector is independent of the actual physical disk sector >size). Any comments? It's complicated, because there is an interaction between the firmware on the SCSI devices. Some drives, after a mode select is done to change the sector size (DEV_BSIZE?) and a low-level format is done, will physically have 1024 byte sectors. Other drives do not change their physical formatting, but act as if they did by combining two 512 byte sectors. Finally, some drives won't work with anything but a 512 byte sector size. One reason to care about all of this is that the system will do a better job of predicting rotational latency if your disk parameters (rotational speed, sector size) accurately describe the drive. If they don't, you may well have sectors interleaved in a much slower fashion. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 1 Feb 1999 17:55:58 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU Message-ID: <794pre$430$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <7920p9$m9c$1@sibyl.sunrise.ch> <794dls$7rp$1@unlnews.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Feb 1999 17:55:58 GMT rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: > For the record, on OS 4.2, you CAN have partitions > 2GB (but < 4GB). They > work. I'm using 4 of them right now. Oehm, SCSI or IDE or both? And how exactly did you manage to persuade OPENSTEP from generating <2GB partitiones? manually edited disktab? Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 _____________________________________________________________________
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 1 Feb 1999 18:11:16 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <794qo4$7j7$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <794h6q$r65$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> I am reposting with kind permission Rex' answer: Helmut Heller <Helmut.Heller@lrz-muenchen.de> wrote: > In article <794dls$7rp$1@unlnews.unl.edu> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex > Dieter) writes: > > For the record, on OS 4.2, you CAN have partitions > 2GB (but < 4GB). > They > work. I'm using 4 of them right now. > > Can you please tell me (us): > > * which sector size did you use (512 or 1024) in /etc/disktab? 512, but didn't use disktab. I used disk -p 4000000 /dev/(insert_device_name_here) I posted a summary about this awhile back to comp.sys.next.sysadmin (I think), in short, disk -p 4000000 /dev/blah will make a first partion of near 4GB, and then chop the remainder of the disk into n 2GB partitions, PROVIDED THERE ARE NO FDISK PARTITIONS DEFINED. If there are fdisk partitions, then the aforementioned disk command will operate similarly on a NeXT partition, but will do the following: It will make the first "slice" at near 4GB, then create n additional slices for the remaining space on the partition (n being the same number as above). > * was the real hardware sector size the same? Yes, 512. > * was it a SCSI or EIDE disk? 9GB SCSI, partitioned as: ~3GB + ~2GB + ~2GB + ~2GB > * Did you fill the disk up and provoke a dirty disk by either unplugging > a running station or by pressing the reset button without first shutting > down the system? Did fsck repair the disk then without problems? After > you had filled the disk > 2GB? Yes. All works well. I even tried beyond 4GB. I sucessfully created a 8GB partition, but it reports being full when hitting the 4GB mark. > * should I specify a sector size of 1024 instead of 512 > (which is the true hardware sector size) and half all the other numbers? > * Or is this done automatically? > * Or does it not matter one way or another? Dunno. I didn't specify. Our drives didn't support 1024 sector sizes anyway. > * Or is it the right thing to specify the actual hardware sector size? > * It says in the disktab itself that ONLY 1024 sector size is supported, > is this true? Does this mean that 512bytes/sector on IDE disks won't > work? That can't be, as my old 512byte/sector IDE disk works just fine! Can't answer that. I don't did disktabs, nor have I tried messing with sector sizes of IDE disks. I suspect that sector sizes cannot be changed from 512 when using IDE disks. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ)
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 1 Feb 1999 18:12:36 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <794qqk$7jo$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <794h6q$r65$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Rex wrote: > > * was the real hardware sector size the same? > > Yes, 512. Ah, thank you very much, that assures me a lot :-) I even tried beyond 4GB. I sucessfully created a 8GB partition, but it reports being full when hitting the 4GB mark. Hmm, this is worrysome to me. I had that one 6.8GB partition in the beginning. Everything was going well, I had about 1.4GB (my home dir...) on it. No sign of problems. Until that power outage (well, I accidentally switched it off): fsck was then unable to repair the partition! Did you ever have to use fsck on that 4GB partition of yours? E.g., after a crash or power outage? Did it work? Looking forward to your reply! Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ)
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 1 Feb 1999 18:13:03 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <794qrf$7js$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <794h6q$r65$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Helmut Heller <Helmut.Heller@lrz-muenchen.de> wrote: > Did you ever have to use fsck on that 4GB partition of yours? E.g., > after a crash or power outage? Did it work? Yes, several times. It was fine. (We've had a 1 or 2 server crashses) -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 1 Feb 1999 18:13:31 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <794qsb$7ju$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <794h6q$r65$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> You wrote: > 512, but didn't use disktab. I used > disk -p 4000000 /dev/(insert_device_name_here) Could you do me a favour and read out the disk label and mail the result to me? Something like disk /dev/(insert_device_name_here) label print should do. Thanks! Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ)
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 1 Feb 1999 18:13:52 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <794qt0$7p5$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <794h6q$r65$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Helmut Heller <Helmut.Heller@lrz-muenchen.de> wrote: > Hmm sorry, you already wrote that fsck worked for you. So discard my > last email... > > You wrote: > 512, but didn't use disktab. I used > disk -p 4000000 /dev/(insert_device_name_here) > > Could you do me a favour and read out the disk label and mail the result > to me? > > Something like > disk /dev/(insert_device_name_here) > label > print mathstat:1# disk /dev/rsd1a Only using BIOS-accessible sectors disk name: SEAGATE ST39173W 5698LM disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Disk utility (Oops, I forgot, I ended up using the -u flag too, which resulted in more space being available... go figure.) disk> quit mathstat:2# disk -u /dev/rsd1a disk name: SEAGATE ST39173W 5698LM disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Disk utility disk> label label information: print, write? print current label information on disk: disk label version #3 disk label: Disk9_1 disk name: SEAGATE ST39173W 5698LM disk type: fixed_rw_scsi ncyls 7501 ntrack 10 nsect 119 rpm 3600 sector_size 1024 front_porch 160 back_porch 0 ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_off 0 boot blocks: #1 at 32 #2 at 96 bootfile: mach_kernel host name: localhost root partition: a read/write partition: b part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type a 0 2810961 8192 1024 16 4096 10% yes time yes 4.3BSD b 2810961 2026832 8192 1024 16 4096 10% yes time yes 4.3BSD c 4837793 2026833 8192 1024 16 4096 10% yes time yes 4.3BSD d 6864626 2026833 8192 1024 16 4096 10% yes time yes 4.3BSD -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 2 Feb 1999 08:43:45 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <796ds1$nc6$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <796794$pmr$1@sibyl.sunrise.ch> In article <796794$pmr$1@sibyl.sunrise.ch> marmier4@hei.unige.ch writes: > In Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... comp.sys.next.sysadmin uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) writes, > > > rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: > >> For the record, on OS 4.2, you CAN have partitions > 2GB (but < 4GB). They > >> work. I'm using 4 of them right now. > > > > Oehm, SCSI or IDE or both? > > > > And how exactly did you manage to persuade OPENSTEP from generating <2GB > > partitiones? manually edited disktab? > > > > If I get it right, you can build a 4Gb partition on the condition you use 1024kb as sector size. You need to low-level format the drive. I'm not sure how this can be done to EIDE drive, as it would lead to a change the Cylinder-Head-Sector parameter... don't know if the BIOS overcomes this, etc... > > Anyway, EIDE are not really intended for playing with low-level characteristics. Be sure to be well documented on what your own drive can stand... OK, here is my update from last night: recap: 6.8GB EIDE Maxtor drive under OS4.2/intel, 512b/s (physically and also in disktab and the disk label), currently one 4GB and one 2GB partition, made with a disktab entry (posted before) last night I copied my home dir (1.2GB, residing on the 4GB partition) to another place on that same partition. Now 2.4GB (as df reports) are occupied. It all worked well. I provoced a system crash (every time I try to use the floppy drive, the system crashes ... any ideas?), used fsck, and all was repaired without any problems. Currently I am doing a recursive diff on the two dir-trees to see if any files might have changed (due to being overwritten); it was still running when I left home this morning. no errors so far. tonight I will copy my home dir once again (to really fill up that partition) and do the above tests once more. I will then also try to fill up the 2GB partition and test again. I will report the results then here. Any comments are very welcome! Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ)
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 2 Feb 1999 15:13:59 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <7974nn$lv6$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <794pre$430$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> In article <794pre$430$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) writes: > rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: > > For the record, on OS 4.2, you CAN have partitions > 2GB (but < 4GB). > > They work. I'm using 4 of them right now. > SCSI or IDE or both? SCSI. I can't comment on IDE, as I have not tried it there. I've read several reports of similar findings as my own wrt to IDE, however. > And how exactly did you manage to persuade OPENSTEP from generating <2GB > partitiones? manually edited disktab? On more time... (-; (This IS about the 4th or 5th I've posted this...) I'm using the disk command on OpenStep 4.2 with NO disktab editing. Here's what I discovered when trying to format 4 9GB SCSI Seagate drives: Case 1: On a disk with no fdisk partitions defined: > disk -p 4000000 /dev/(insert_disk_dev_here) will create a disk with 1 "slice" of ~4GB, and will chop the remaining space into n additional slices of < 2GB (n being the largest as possible while keeping the slice size < 2GB). In my case, a 9GB drive (again, with no fdisk partitions defined), I issued the command: > disk -u -p 3000000 /dev/blah_blah and got a disk with slice 1 of size ~3GB, and 3 additional slices of ~2GB. (The -u flag resulted in a little more space being available, go figure). So n here was 3. Case 2: On a disk with a NeXT partition defined (of > 4GB, of course) > disk -p 4000000 /dev/(insert_disk_dev_here) will create a disk where the NeXT partition is sliced as: 1 slice of ~4GB, with n (using the same n as above) additional slices among the remaining space. Here the additional slices may well be < 2GB. In my case, a 9GB drive, with an fdisk NeXT partition of size, say 6GB for argument's sake, the command: > disk -u -p 3000000 /dev/blah_blah would result in a disk with slice 1 of size ~3GB, and 3 (the same n as in case 1 remember) additional slices of ~1GB. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: "Can't Find $LBL" error Date: 01 Feb 1999 22:09:11 PST Organization: Caffeine Software Message-ID: <7964q7$1ou@journal.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Looks like I've been haunted by problems lately... My 4.2 Intel system doesn't boot anymore. All I get at the boot prompt is Can't find $LBL boot: Well, then. I can boot with the CD as single-user, I also have a functional 3.3 system on the same machine. I tried to do a "disk -[lL] blah /dev/rsd1a" for no avail - can't think of anything else that "$LBL" would stand for. I can blow the drive away, I have a fresh snapshot, but still... Thanks, - Stan --- Nature Travelogues: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~stanj/Travel NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com
From: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Missing Root password... Date: 01 Feb 1999 22:17:20 PST Organization: Caffeine Software Message-ID: <79659g$1ou@journal.concentric.net> References: <36b68daa.0@news.webt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: jaue@tznet.com Jeff, congrats on your 030 cube - as of last week I am a proud owner of four myself :-) To aleviate your problem, try this: get to the NeXT> boot prompt by pressing Command-` (backquote) after "testing system". Then type "bsd(0,0,0) -s" which will boot normally in single-user mode. Then, at the # prompt, do this: cd /usr/template/client/etc cp -rp netinfo /etc exit You may want to save the old netinfo, or maybe not :-) This will blow the whole netinfo away. If your board has a hardware password set, you are screwed. BTW, the above hack will work on all NeXT system, unless they have the 4.2 patch installed. - Stan -- Nature Travelogues: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~stanj/Travel NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com > I have an old 030 Cube with no floppy that hasn't been used in quite a > while. I have one username that I can log in as, but I have forgotten the > root password. I do have one of the 256 meg disks. Anyway, does anyone > know how to bypass the security on this thing? > > I seem to recall that there was a key sequence that one could press that > would do something funky, but if that is the case I wouldn't remember what > it was. > > Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. > > Jeff
From: marmier4@hei.unige.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... Date: 2 Feb 1999 06:51:16 GMT Organization: sunrise communications ag Message-ID: <796794$pmr$1@sibyl.sunrise.ch> References: <794pre$430$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <7920p9$m9c$1@sibyl.sunrise.ch> <794dls$7rp$1@unlnews.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Feb 1999 06:51:16 GMT In Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive... comp.sys.next.sysadmin uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) writes, > rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: >> For the record, on OS 4.2, you CAN have partitions > 2GB (but < 4GB). They >> work. I'm using 4 of them right now. > > Oehm, SCSI or IDE or both? > > And how exactly did you manage to persuade OPENSTEP from generating <2GB > partitiones? manually edited disktab? > If I get it right, you can build a 4Gb partition on the condition you use 1024kb as sector size. You need to low-level format the drive. I'm not sure how this can be done to EIDE drive, as it would lead to a change the Cylinder-Head-Sector parameter... don't know if the BIOS overcomes this, etc... Anyway, EIDE are not really intended for playing with low-level characteristics. Be sure to be well documented on what your own drive can stand... cheers Raph
From: t68@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive.. Date: 2 Feb 1999 09:39:03 GMT Organization: NIKHEF, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). Distribution: world Message-ID: <796h3n$b4e$1@sunnews.cern.ch> marmier4@hei.unige.ch wrote >If I get it right, you can build a 4Gb partition on the condition you use 1024kb > as sector size. You need to low-level format the drive. I'm not sure how this c >an be done to EIDE drive, as it would lead to a change the Cylinder-Head-Sector >parameter... don't know if the BIOS overcomes this, etc... >Anyway, EIDE are not really intended for playing with low-level characteristics. > Be sure to be well documented on what your own drive can stand... A few months ago I bought a new laptop with a 4 Gbytes EIDE drive. Installation gave no problem. I specified that I wanted 1 partition with everything and that is what it made. I checked that indeed it writes properly beyond 2 Gbytes. I have had to use fchk after I tested how long the battery would hold out (and once after an involuntary rundown because I forgot to plug it in) and everything works fine and fast. (The computer is from Transmonde) I think that you can safely use a 4 Gbytes partition under OS 4.2. I have not tried multiple partitions of that size because these little notebook disks come only up to 6 Gbytes. Jos Vermaseren
From: MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Exact keystoke for "serial a is alternate console" ? and succesfull replacement of the monitor Date: 3 Feb 1999 00:08:19 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Distribution: world Message-ID: <79841j$b3a$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> References: <78lbv7$27o$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> <78p1g7$pq5$1@winter.news.rcn.net> <7906tt$i99$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> <794c0a$p7@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: wolfgang.roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de In <794c0a$p7@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> Wolfgang Rpckelein wrote: > In <7906tt$i99$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> Max Barel wrote: > > BTW: i remember two or three occurrence of blank monitor on this very same > > station when it was up and running, with screen saving on, i had to > > disconnect the power chord from the monitor to have it coming up again. > > Has someone seen an understood this sequence ?? > > Yes, I have this approx. once in a week. I would be grateful if someone has > an idea what is going on here. > > Wolfgang I hope for you this is not a signal of a diyng monitor, because it seem that mine is dead ! Or maybe just stuck in dimmed state ? Since i never succedeed in my attempt to use serial A as alternate console, i eventually made an adapter to connect the NeXTstation to my multisync white monitor (IYAMA 9017). It worked very well. For some kolks asking about monitor replacement on this forum, i can now confirm that a multisync monitor with sufficient cababilities (e.g. 1170x900 @ 68 Hz) can easily be used. -- Mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr : Adresse primaire / primary address Mailto:Max.Barel@wanadoo.fr : Adresse secondaire / secondary address (NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome) http://www.cuefa.inpg.fr/~max/Graal/ : Site du planeur Graal / Graal glider site http://perso.wanadoo.fr/max.barel/ : Site secondaire du planeur Graal / Graal glider secondary site
From: "Jeff Aue" <jaue@tznet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Missing Root password... Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:42:02 -0600 Message-ID: <36b68daa.0@news.webt.com> I have an old 030 Cube with no floppy that hasn't been used in quite a while. I have one username that I can log in as, but I have forgotten the root password. I do have one of the 256 meg disks. Anyway, does anyone know how to bypass the security on this thing? I seem to recall that there was a key sequence that one could press that would do something funky, but if that is the case I wouldn't remember what it was. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Jeff
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.99Feb1122335@slave.doubleu.com> References: <7920p9$m9c$1@sibyl.sunrise.ch> <794dls$7rp$1@unlnews.unl.edu> <HO$ShtGa0y53@cc.usu.edu> In-reply-to: edx@cc.usu.edu's message of 1 Feb 99 08:46:39 MDT Date: 1 Feb 99 12:23:35 NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:59:50 PDT In article <HO$ShtGa0y53@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu writes: In <794dls$7rp$1@unlnews.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote: > For the record, on OS 4.2, you CAN have partitions > 2GB (but < > 4GB). They work. I'm using 4 of them right now. I'm very curious about this. Have you tested the partitions in a manner that data has been written to blocks above the 2GB mark? Are you sure that such data is going where it should, and not being wrapped around to a lower block number? Due to how BSD FFS works, it would be hard _not_ to write above the 2GB mark. BSD FFS tends to scatter files all over the drive in an attempt to prevent fragmentation. This may not come into play for very sparsely populated filesystems, but for anything decent-sized, like an OS4.2 install or a set of user home directories, the partition should have files all over the place. Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Message-ID: <cdoutyF6JrzH.1tI@netcom.com> Sender: cdouty@netcom12.netcom.com Organization: Netcom Online Services, Inc. References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <1999Jan28.211510.1586@news.online.de> <36B125B9.D892ED81@ne.mediaone.net> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:04:29 GMT In article <36B125B9.D892ED81@ne.mediaone.net>, Monty Brandenberg <mcbinc@ne.mediaone.net> wrote: >Thomas F. Unke wrote: >> >> I use Mail 3.3 (Version 118.2) under NS/m68k and it works fine, also adding a >> ">" before the From field. > >Ditto here though I run with the 3.3Patch1 fixes and the Enhance >mail bundle (Mail 3.3 reports Version 118.2(e1.3)). One curiosity >though: only Mime mail handles the Berkeley mail 'From' flag >correctly. If you type lines starting with 'From' and '>From' >in the body, only mime mail displays correctly. I hate to dissent, but I too have the "From" bug. I am running NS 3.3patch1 on m68k using Mail.app v118.2(e2.2p1). As you can see I am running the latest version of the EnhanceMail bundle. I do add one custom header to my outgoing mail. I change my From line to "Chris Douty <Chris_Douty@ampex.com>" in a vain hope that people will use the correct return address. I just sent a little test message to myself containing a line begining with "From" and it did generate two messages in my NextMail box. The first message has all of the correct headers and body up til the bogus From. The next message is merely the text I typed in the From sentence. I get a bunch of console errors about "Malformed header line" too. My guess is that some folks' sendmail is protecting them. I know that some sendmails will prefix any body line begining in "From " with a right angle bracket to protect MUAs expecting to use the simple Berkeley mailbox. It looks like my sendmail does not, so NextMail chokes. An interesting note is that I have "Archive outgoing mail" turned on, and the FCC copies do have the "From" protected by an angle bracket. I just tested outgoing MIME mail too, and it has the problem as well. This problem has been bugging me for a while, but I haven't had time to really track it. Besides, if the error is really in Mail.app, then there is not a whole lot you can do about it. Apple sure as hell won't care. Additional info. I am loading these bundles: [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/EnhanceMail.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/ExtraCommands.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/Resend.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/Urlifier.bundle] Cheers, Chris Douty -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: bartosh@tamu.edu (Michael Bartosh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Samba Printing Help? Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:31:05 -0600 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <bartosh-0202992331050001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> References: <78sp1c$ak2$1@calvin.skidmore.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Feb 1999 05:32:23 GMT In article <78sp1c$ak2$1@calvin.skidmore.edu>, jshomphe@saims.skidmore.edu (joseph shomphe) wrote: Which distribution? Does it have a gui, and if so what's the url? -mab > Im trying to get samba up and running on my Turbo Color slab running > OS 4.2, Everything is working well (file sharing), except for > printing. I know I have something wrong, but cant figure it out...if > possible, could somone post or email a working configuration file? > > I am using a NeXT Laser printer attatched to the slab. > > Thanks for the help > jshomphe@skidmore.edu -- Michael Bartosh Student Rep Apple Computer, Inc. bartosh@tamu.edu
From: bartosh@tamu.edu (Michael Bartosh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Missing Root password... Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:30:13 -0600 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <bartosh-0202992330140001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> References: <36b68daa.0@news.webt.com> <79659g$1ou@journal.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Feb 1999 05:31:32 GMT In article <79659g$1ou@journal.concentric.net>, stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) wrote: > Jeff, > > congrats on your 030 cube - as of last week I am a proud owner of four myself > :-) > > To aleviate your problem, try this: get to the NeXT> boot prompt by pressing > Command-` (backquote) after "testing system". Then type "bsd(0,0,0) -s" which > will boot normally in single-user mode. Then, at the # prompt, do this: > > cd /usr/template/client/etc > cp -rp netinfo /etc > exit > > You may want to save the old netinfo, or maybe not :-) This will blow the > whole netinfo away. If your board has a hardware password set, you are > screwed. No, all you have to do is remove the battery- usually for a long time. -mab -- Michael Bartosh Student Rep Apple Computer, Inc. bartosh@tamu.edu
From: rev.rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [Q] WWDC OPENSTEP 4.2 on black hardware? Date: 3 Feb 1999 06:06:26 GMT Organization: .crackheads.with.rather.low.paying.jobs. Message-ID: <798p12$63v$1@eve.enteract.com> References: <19990201163205.09537.00003983@ng-cg1.aol.com> <19990201200608.01108.00003174@ng-ch1.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit doh! i can boot the Sparc5 on my desk off my OPENSTEP 4.2 CD and install? [>] [>] What architectures does the Prelude to Rhapsody CD support? [>] [>] The Prelude to Rhapsody/OpenStep 4.2 PR2 CD is tri-fat. [>] [>] It has m68K, Sparc and Intel binaries on the CD. However, the CD only comes [>] with boot floppies for Intel. [>] [>] For installing on m68K systems (NeXT hardware) you can use the 3.3 Boot [>] Floppy Image available via NextAnswers. [>] [>] Apparently the Sparc installation can be started directly from the CD. [>] [>] -- "I noticed a clump of wild flowers that we had trampled underfoot upon departing - yellow camomiles, relics of our yesterday."
From: pdxbug@teleport.com (Aaron Spesard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Missing Root password... Message-ID: <pdxbug-0302992340070001@i48-16-36.pdx.du.teleport.com> References: <36b68daa.0@news.webt.com> <79659g$1ou@journal.concentric.net> <bartosh-0202992330140001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:40:07 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:39:48 PDT In article <bartosh-0202992330140001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu>, bartosh@tamu.edu (Michael Bartosh) wrote: > > You may want to save the old netinfo, or maybe not :-) This will blow the > > whole netinfo away. If your board has a hardware password set, you are > > screwed. > > No, all you have to do is remove the battery- usually for a long time. > > -mab How long's a long's a long time? Haven't tried removing the battery yet, but nothing I've tried is gotten me in to my cube... (sigh) aaron pdxbug@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~pdxbug Portland Be Users' Group BeOS, a remarkably buzzword compliant OS.
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Samba Printing Help? Date: 3 Feb 1999 11:56:20 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Message-ID: <799dh4$qh1$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <78sp1c$ak2$1@calvin.skidmore.edu> jshomphe@saims.skidmore.edu (joseph shomphe) wrote: >Im trying to get samba up and running on my Turbo Color slab running >OS 4.2, Everything is working well (file sharing), except for >printing. I know I have something wrong, but cant figure it out...if >possible, could somone post or email a working configuration file? I set up a Samba system last week. Unfortunately, I don't have the config file here, but I remember having to set the print command to something along the lines of /usr/ucb/lpr %p %s. Apart from that, it was plug and play. Excellent software. May I also recommend Frank Siegerts CAPper for those who need to support MacOS machines in their network? We now have Macs, PCs and UNIX system sharing files and printers, without any cost for software, and it took just a few hours to set that network up. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE Date: 3 Feb 1999 08:10:07 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <79908v$a8d$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <SCOTT.99Feb1122335@slave.doubleu.com> In article <SCOTT.99Feb1122335@slave.doubleu.com> scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess) writes: > Due to how BSD FFS works, it would be hard _not_ to write above the > 2GB mark. BSD FFS tends to scatter files all over the drive in an > attempt to prevent fragmentation. This may not come into play for > very sparsely populated filesystems, but for anything decent-sized, > like an OS4.2 install or a set of user home directories, the partition > should have files all over the place. True, true! Last night I finally filled up my 4GB partition to over 3GB, I also filled up the 2GB partition to 1.2GB (all copies of my home dir, many files) and provoced a vrash. fsck worked just fine, no problems at all! Then I run a recursive diff and all the files compared fine, no problems. Now I am pretty confident that 4GB (with 512b/s physical and in the disk label) under OS4.2/intel on EIDE disks works just fine without any bad side effects. A 6.8GB partition, however, is NOT advisabvle as I have had many problems with that before. Bye, Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ)
Subject: 4.2 on a Zip? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: paul <pb141@nospam.columbia.edu> Message-ID: <dw3u2.261$_g6.732@news6.ispnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:50:01 EDT Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:50:01 GMT I made a zip disk that will boot 3.2 on my black hardware as a backup. Can I do something similar with 4.2, a zip drive, and a laptop? (the laptop usually runs W95).
From: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: "Can't Find $LBL" error Date: 03 Feb 1999 18:45:31 PST Organization: Caffeine Software Message-ID: <79b1kb$247@chronicle.concentric.net> References: <7964q7$1ou@journal.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com TO answer my own question, because somehow I have the feeling that sooner or later someone around here could run into the same problems: I booted from 3.3 on external disk (which I had to build first), then nuked all the drivers in /private/Devices, and restored my backup from DAT. After this, it booted just fine. If you don't have a DAT, you may probably as well boot in single-user from CD and then copy the default config onto your hard drive. - Stan In <7964q7$1ou@journal.concentric.net> Stan Jirman wrote: > Looks like I've been haunted by problems lately... My 4.2 Intel system > doesn't boot anymore. All I get at the boot prompt is > > Can't find $LBL > boot: > > Well, then. I can boot with the CD as single-user, I also have a functional > 3.3 system on the same machine. I tried to do a "disk -[lL] blah /dev/rsd1a" > for no avail - can't think of anything else that "$LBL" would stand for. > > I can blow the drive away, I have a fresh snapshot, but still... > > Thanks, > - Stan > --- > > Nature Travelogues: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~stanj/Travel > NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com > > -- Nature Travelogues: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~stanj/Travel NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com
Message-ID: <36B93BC8.C6ED5BED@ewerks.com> From: Chris Chapman <chris@ewerks.com> Organization: EWeRKS LLC. MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Missing Root password... References: <36b68daa.0@news.webt.com> <79659g$1ou@journal.concentric.net> <bartosh-0202992330140001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> <pdxbug-0302992340070001@i48-16-36.pdx.du.teleport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 06:18:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:18:17 PDT An hour should do it. It worked for me. cc Aaron Spesard wrote: > > In article <bartosh-0202992330140001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu>, > bartosh@tamu.edu (Michael Bartosh) wrote: > > > > You may want to save the old netinfo, or maybe not :-) This will blow the > > > whole netinfo away. If your board has a hardware password set, you are > > > screwed. > > > > No, all you have to do is remove the battery- usually for a long time. > > > > -mab > > How long's a long's a long time? Haven't tried removing the battery yet, > but nothing I've tried is gotten me in to my cube... (sigh) > > aaron > pdxbug@teleport.com > http://www.teleport.com/~pdxbug > Portland Be Users' Group > BeOS, a remarkably buzzword compliant OS.
From: cdbgraf@earthlink.net (christopher borden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 4.2 on a Zip? Date: 4 Feb 1999 16:29:53 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <dw3u2.261$_g6.732@news6.ispnews.com> Cc: pb141@nospam.columbia.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <79chu1$5ca$1@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net> In <dw3u2.261$_g6.732@news6.ispnews.com> paul wrote: > I made a zip disk that will boot 3.2 on my black hardware as a backup. > Can I do something similar with 4.2, a zip drive, and a laptop? > (the laptop usually runs W95). > > you can build a bare-bones 4.2 zip boot disk (using builddisk). the w95 part i wouldn't know about.
From: tadams@pobox.com (Thomas Adams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Is it safe to remove swapfile.front? Date: 4 Feb 1999 16:47:02 GMT Message-ID: <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-User: tadams OmniWeb 3 made my OS 4.2 box swap like there was no tomorrow. Hard disk space went below a critical value and now I wonder if it's safe to remove the swapfile.front file from /private/vm. It's way larger than the swapfile and I never saw it there, does it need to be there?
From: Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 4.2 on a Zip? Date: 04 Feb 1999 16:17:40 +0100 Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Sender: twetzel@lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de Message-ID: <tqfr9s6fbaj.fsf@lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de> References: <dw3u2.261$_g6.732@news6.ispnews.com> paul <pb141@nospam.columbia.edu> writes: > I made a zip disk that will boot 3.2 on my black hardware as a backup. > Can I do something similar with 4.2, a zip drive, and a laptop? > (the laptop usually runs W95). Your return address bounces (without nospam, at least). I have heard that OS4.2 does not really fit on a 100MB zip disk (double set of shared libraries). But if you are thinking about a rescue system, why not trying to build a NS3.2 zip? Your moto install CD is probably(?) fat, and you'd certainly need a set of install/drivers floppy images (from NeXTanswers). How about the driver support? I suppose a SCSI version zip with a supported PCMCIA SCSI adapter is most likely to work. NS3.2 isn't ideal in terms of Intel hardware support, but it's worth a try. Regards, Timm -- Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de> Biomed. NMR GmbH Tel +49 551 201-1091 FAX +49 551 201-1307 Am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Goettingen, Germany
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is it safe to remove swapfile.front? Date: 4 Feb 1999 19:32:22 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <79csk6$392$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tadams@pobox.com (Thomas Adams) wrote: >OmniWeb 3 made my OS 4.2 box swap like there was no tomorrow. Hard disk >space went below a critical value and now I wonder if it's safe to remove >the swapfile.front file from /private/vm. It's way larger than the >swapfile and I never saw it there, does it need to be there? The short answer is "no, it's not safe to delete either one". Reboot your system instead, and that will shrink the swapfile usage. swapfile and swapfile.front are really the same thing-- but one is the compressed version (which actually takes up disk space) and the other shows how much virtual swap space is in use. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
Message-ID: <36BA358A.122C4AF2@tc.umn.edu> From: william rice <rice0067@tc.umn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: install linux on PC References: <78t5vn$gd2@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> <UGmt2.1177$Af5.324837@news.sgi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:04:26 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:01:51 CDT yes, you need to format the HDD this invloves removing the disk, opening it up and rubbing it with a wool scarf. if you get that done you should be ready... :) >
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From: MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Missing Root password... Date: 4 Feb 1999 23:11:13 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Message-ID: <79d9eh$2na$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> References: <36b68daa.0@news.webt.com> <79659g$1ou@journal.concentric.net> <bartosh-0202992330140001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> <pdxbug-0302992340070001@i48-16-36.pdx.du.teleport.com> <36B93BC8.C6ED5BED@ewerks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: chris@ewerks.com In <36B93BC8.C6ED5BED@ewerks.com> Chris Chapman wrote: > An hour should do it. It worked for me. > Aaron Spesard wrote: > > > > In article <bartosh-0202992330140001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu>, > > bartosh@tamu.edu (Michael Bartosh) wrote: > > > > How long's a long's a long time? Haven't tried removing the battery yet, > > but nothing I've tried is gotten me in to my cube... (sigh) A few second did it for me as long as i shortcut the two pole of the battery slot ;-) -- Mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr : Adresse primaire / primary address Mailto:Max.Barel@wanadoo.fr : Adresse secondaire / secondary address (NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome) http://www.cuefa.inpg.fr/~max/Graal/ : Site du planeur Graal / Graal glider site http://perso.wanadoo.fr/max.barel/ : Site secondaire du planeur Graal / Graal glider secondary site
From: Scott Smallwood <smalls@rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: installing 3.3 on Next Cube: claims no hard drive is present??? Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:15:31 -0500 Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <36BA3823.3E8B1CF9@rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm having trouble installing NextStep 3.3 on a 040 NeXTCube. I'm using an external floppy on SCSI ID#4, and a CDROM on SCSI ID#6. The internal drive is on SCSI ID#0. What is happening is this: I type bsd(4,0,0)sdmach, and the installation procedure begins. It looks for the CDROM, finds it, loads more files, then looks for a hard drive. It seems to find a drive, and gives specs on it, giving the size and it's current label, then it tells me that it can't find a hard drive with at least 120 MB of free space, and exits. I KNOW that my drive has enough space, so I'm really confused about this. I also know that the drive is ok, because it used to be my users drive and it was working fine (or so I thought). I even tried getting a different drive, installing it in the box, and trying again, but I get the same results. Anyone have any ideas on this one?? I'm baffled... -- --------------------------------- Scott T. Smallwood Studio Engineer/Sysadmin iEAR Studios Rensselear Polytechnic Institute Troy, NY
From: jbsjiw@faqlist.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: + + + + + FAQ for this newsgroup + + + + + 3298 Date: 5 Feb 1999 01:19:09 GMT Organization: Another Netscape News Server User Message-ID: <79dgud$j684673@news2.bis.adp.com> View the latest FAQ at http://home-3.worldonline.nl/~696 rrmfrpcubewgmehyqqcepodvjbyxsnyupmnwffquxxoiwxxbkmzvgkdfhfnzhkjhhfyrrgitgnwsodojokcitygluvypnogmzchyxhdnhfjwhkgxlmubwxmmfbwdfqribfceqzcbjboewlyngxtjlvxfubtzdgrrstvrrchftfzycvteiwlrempnuydpcchngwcyuerxswfsrhrrxmllvlnjo
From: bartosh@tamu.edu (Michael Bartosh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Run Capper on Startup Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 22:41:57 -0600 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <bartosh-0402992241570001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> References: <36BA3823.3E8B1CF9@rpi.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Feb 1999 04:43:18 GMT Is there anyhting I can put in rc.local or something to make Capper activities start up on reboot without having to log in? -- Michael Bartosh Student Rep Apple Computer, Inc. bartosh@tamu.edu
From: bartosh@tamu.edu (Michael Bartosh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: samba front in OS4.0? Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:31:50 -0600 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <bartosh-0502990031500001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Feb 1999 06:33:10 GMT Is there a front end to manage the SAMBA included in OS 4.0, or for any version for that matter. -mab -- Michael Bartosh Student Rep Apple Computer, Inc. bartosh@tamu.edu
From: pdxbug@teleport.com (Aaron Spesard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Missing Root password... Message-ID: <pdxbug-0502992350580001@i48-06-27.pdx.du.teleport.com> References: <36b68daa.0@news.webt.com> <79659g$1ou@journal.concentric.net> <bartosh-0202992330140001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> <pdxbug-0302992340070001@i48-16-36.pdx.du.teleport.com> <36B93BC8.C6ED5BED@ewerks.com> <79d9eh$2na$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 23:50:57 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 23:50:39 PDT In article <79d9eh$2na$1@platane.wanadoo.fr>, MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max Barel) wrote: Well, I'm glad this process works for everybody else, but my cube just isn't gonna let me in! I've removed the battery (had it out overnight, no less). I start up the cube, using the command/~ thing on the numeric pad; that gets me to the NeXT prompt. I type "b sd -s" which boots the machine and takes me to the following: erase ^? intr ^C kill ^U # which all means next to nothing to me at this point. So at the # prompt I type: "passwd" (no quotes, of course, and get the following: Usage: passwd [-f] [-s] [user] So then I type: "passwd -s root", which gets me: New shell: So then I type at the New shell: passwd which gets me "passwd is unavailable." and then a # prompt. So then I type "passwd root" and that gets me: New password: So I make a new password, confirm it, and type exit, which boots into multi-user mode, and..... type in "root" for Name, and then the password, and the cube just shakes the login graphic at me. hmmm.... Again, any help appreciated. btw, this is probably a really stupid question, but are there any web servers packages that I could use on a cube? Aaron pdxbug@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~pdxbug Portland Be Users' Group > In <36B93BC8.C6ED5BED@ewerks.com> Chris Chapman wrote: > > An hour should do it. It worked for me. > > Aaron Spesard wrote: > > > > > > In article <bartosh-0202992330140001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu>, > > > bartosh@tamu.edu (Michael Bartosh) wrote: > > > > > > How long's a long's a long time? Haven't tried removing the battery yet, > > > but nothing I've tried is gotten me in to my cube... (sigh) > > A few second did it for me as long as i shortcut the two pole of the battery > slot ;-)
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is it safe to remove swapfile.front? Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.99Feb4100629@slave.doubleu.com> References: <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> In-reply-to: tadams@pobox.com's message of 4 Feb 1999 16:47:02 GMT Date: 4 Feb 99 10:06:29 NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:59:49 PDT In article <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de>, tadams@pobox.com (Thomas Adams) writes: OmniWeb 3 made my OS 4.2 box swap like there was no tomorrow. Hard disk space went below a critical value and now I wonder if it's safe to remove the swapfile.front file from /private/vm. It's way larger than the swapfile and I never saw it there, does it need to be there? Removing it won't save any space, because that file literally doesn't exist. It's just a "front" for the swapfile - swapfile.front is the uncompressed version of swapfile, which is why it's bigger. [Or perhaps it's vice-versa. In any case, they're both the same space, and even if you delete them it won't recover the space until you reboot.] Of course, deleting the swapfile is a bad thing to do. On reboot, it will cut itself back down to the lowat size listed in /etc/swaptab. Don't make lowat _too_ low, otherwise you'll fragment the swapfile. If you've already fragmented the swapfile, as root delete the current swapfile and recreate it using mkfile. Note that deleting the swapfile won't reclaim the disk space until you reboot - if you can't afford double the space, you have to do the rm/mkfile after booting to single-user mode. Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: installing 3.3 on Next Cube: claims no hard drive is present??? Date: 5 Feb 1999 08:03:14 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <79eq6i$8md@papoose.quick.com> References: <36BA3823.3E8B1CF9@rpi.edu> In article <36BA3823.3E8B1CF9@rpi.edu>, Scott Smallwood <smalls@rpi.edu> wrote: >Hi, > >I'm having trouble installing NextStep 3.3 on a 040 NeXTCube. I'm using >an external floppy on SCSI ID#4, and a CDROM on SCSI ID#6. The internal >drive is on SCSI ID#0. > >What is happening is this: I type bsd(4,0,0)sdmach, and the >installation procedure begins. It looks for the CDROM, finds it, loads >more files, then looks for a hard drive. It seems to find a drive, and >gives specs on it, giving the size and it's current label, then it tells >me that it can't find a hard drive with at least 120 MB of free space, >and exits. I KNOW that my drive has enough space, so I'm really >confused about this. I also know that the drive is ok, because it used >to be my users drive and it was working fine (or so I thought). > >I even tried getting a different drive, installing it in the box, and >trying again, but I get the same results. > >Anyone have any ideas on this one?? I'm baffled... If you have a 1-2 GB drive, install on that one, then use disk -i with a disktab entry to set up the larger drive (connected externally). then follow up with Builddisk. to copy over a bootable OS to one of the partitions. You may then use the large drive to boot. If you do not have another drive, you may need assistance from another NeXT owner. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | If only the HMO would cover my allergy to gravity. ) |
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: install linux on PC Date: 5 Feb 1999 07:53:28 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <79epk8$8kb@papoose.quick.com> References: <78t5vn$gd2@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> <UGmt2.1177$Af5.324837@news.sgi.net> <36BA358A.122C4AF2@tc.umn.edu> In article <36BA358A.122C4AF2@tc.umn.edu>, william rice <rice0067@tc.umn.edu> wrote: > >yes, you need to format the HDD this invloves removing the disk, opening it >up and rubbing it with a wool scarf. >if you get that done you should be ready... >:) Good advice but you neglected to inform him that a bag of refrigerator magnets nearby will (quickly check my excuse calendar) protect from solar flare activity. :) Don't forget the organic salts! -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | If only the HMO would cover my allergy to gravity. ) |
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Missing Root password... Date: 5 Feb 1999 08:15:20 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <79eqt8$8qe@papoose.quick.com> References: <36b68daa.0@news.webt.com> <36B93BC8.C6ED5BED@ewerks.com> <79d9eh$2na$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> <pdxbug-0502992350580001@i48-06-27.pdx.du.teleport.com> In article <pdxbug-0502992350580001@i48-06-27.pdx.du.teleport.com>, Aaron Spesard <pdxbug@teleport.com> wrote: >In article <79d9eh$2na$1@platane.wanadoo.fr>, MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max >Barel) wrote: > >Well, I'm glad this process works for everybody else, but my cube just >isn't gonna let me in! I've removed the battery (had it out overnight, no >less). I start up the cube, using the command/~ thing on the numeric pad; >that gets me to the NeXT prompt. I type "b sd -s" which boots the machine >and takes me to the following: > >erase ^? intr ^C kill ^U ># > >which all means next to nothing to me at this point. So at the # prompt I >type: "passwd" (no quotes, of course, and get the following: > >Usage: passwd [-f] [-s] [user] > >So then I type: "passwd -s root", which gets me: > >New shell: > >So then I type at the New shell: passwd > >which gets me "passwd is unavailable." and then a # prompt. > >So then I type "passwd root" > >and that gets me: > >New password: > >So I make a new password, confirm it, and type exit, which boots into >multi-user mode, and..... type in "root" for Name, and then the password, >and the cube just shakes the login graphic at me. hmmm.... > >Again, any help appreciated. btw, this is probably a really stupid >question, but are there any web servers packages that I could use on a >cube? Not stupid, just non-intuitive until you get used to NeXTStep. NeXT uses a database called Netinfo for all its system files. The flat files are only used during initial boot. What you did was change the password in the flat file (/etc/passwd) since netinfo had not been started yet. This has no effect once the system boots into multi-user mode and starts referencing netinfo. So, do what you just described but with a couple of small changes. 1. Alway use fsck after booting single user, just in case fsck -p 2. Finish the multiuser boot sequence manually to start up system daemons (including netinfo) sh /etc/rc & 3. Now, after netinfo has fired up passwd -s root An alterative to this would be to re-initialize the netinfo database to the factory defaults (with no root password set yet) using: cp -rp /usr/template/client/netinfo /etc/ Then reboot and come back up running a default standalone config. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | If only the HMO would cover my allergy to gravity. ) |
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is it safe to remove swapfile.front? Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:53:45 -0800 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.990205094819.16794A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> References: <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> <SCOTT.99Feb4100629@slave.doubleu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <SCOTT.99Feb4100629@slave.doubleu.com> "Reply-To: " If disk space really isn't a big problem, then what is a good size for lowat? I find my machine really slowing down after my swapfile size grows over about 35MB (after which I reboot to bring it back down). Any recommendations for changes/additions to /etc/swaptab? I currently just have the default entry on NS 3.3: /private/vm/swapfile lowat=16777216 # 16 Meg low water mark Thanks. Rob
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Run CAPer on Startup Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <UaIu2.1263$hl1.1991956@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:06:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:06:12 EDT Yes. Simply add whatever command you use to start CAPer to /etc/rc.local For example, if you use: /usr/local/bin/caper Then add /usr/local/bin/caper to /etc/rc.local (Adapt for whatever the real command is, obviously) TjL ps -- when asking a new question you should start a new thread, rather than a 'Followup' and changing the Subject, as it confuses Newsreaders which thread messages by Message-ID references -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: samba front in OS4.0? Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <bartosh-0502990031500001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <EcIu2.1265$hl1.1991956@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:08:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:08:04 EDT In <bartosh-0502990031500001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> Michael Bartosh wrote: > Is there a front end to manage the SAMBA included in OS 4.0, or for any > version for that matter. No, but we're hoping there will be one in OSX ;-) TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: mgi@granite.geol.vt.edu (Matthias Georg Imhof) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: hp8100 multiple copies printing problem Date: 5 Feb 1999 20:26:14 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <79fk56$kgr$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Feb 1999 20:26:14 GMT I tried everything which has been recommended to get multiple copies printouts to work with an HP 8100. I have set the "_nxfinalform" property in my printcap as well as in NetInfo. nidump -r printers / name = printers; CHILDREN = ({ name = (popocatepetl, popo, gs6141, "popocatepetl "); _nxfinalform = (); mx = "#0"; rm = gs6141.geol.vt.edu; rw = raw; sd = /usr/spool/popo; ty = "HP LaserJet 8100 Series"; }); I also modified the ppd file using the following perl script posted a while ago. #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w # (C) 1998 Melissa O'Neill. Distributed under the GNU Public License. while (<>) { if (m/^\*(\w+)[ \t]+(\w+).*:/) { ($optionname, $optionvalue) = ($1, $2); } s#[ \t]setpagedevice\b#\n userdict /NXPPD${optionname}Setup 2 copy known {2 copy get} {/Unknown} ifelse\n /$optionvalue dup 3 1 roll eq\n {pop pop pop pop} {put setpagedevice} ifelse#g if m#setpagedevice#; print; } But it still does not work. Other features in Options work nicely, watermarks for example. Anyone any ideas? Matthias -- ************************************************************************** * Matthias G.Imhof, Ph.D. phone: (540) 231 6004 * * Derring Hall 4044 fax: (540) 231 3386 * * Virginia Tech email: mgi@vt.edu * * Blacksburg, VA 24061-0420 http://www.geol.vt.edu/profs/mgi * * There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark * **************************************************************************
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is it safe to remove swapfile.front? Date: 5 Feb 1999 23:07:48 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <79ftk4$7cl$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> <SCOTT.99Feb4100629@slave.doubleu.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.990205094819.16794A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> wrote: >If disk space really isn't a big problem, then what is a good size for >lowat? I find my machine really slowing down after my swapfile size grows >over about 35MB (after which I reboot to bring it back down). Any >recommendations for changes/additions to /etc/swaptab? A good size is about however much VM you consistently are using on a regular basis. You'd want to reboot single-user (since the VM system hasn't been started), delete the old swapfile, and create a new one of your preferred size using mkfile. Of course, update swaptab as well. However, it may be likely that you're seeing slowdowns because you're starting to use enough memory to swap a lot. What does vmstat (both with and without an interval count) show you? -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: nul@i.hate.spam (noone inparticular) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Problem installing capper Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:58:46 -0800 Organization: University of Victoria Message-ID: <nul-ya02408000R0502991658460001@news.uvic.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Feb 1999 00:58:53 GMT I've downloaded Frank Siegert's CAPer pkg.(V8) from his web site and am presently trying to install it on my NeXTStep 3.3 NeXT station. I'm not 100% sure how to go about doing this. I've tried running the CAPer binary but have received an error. => DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host local host Am I doing something wrong? Do I need to install something before CAP? TIA
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is it safe to remove swapfile.front? Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.99Feb5135931@slave.doubleu.com> References: <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> <SCOTT.99Feb4100629@slave.doubleu.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.990205094819.16794A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> In-reply-to: "Robert G. Jacobs"'s message of Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:53:45 -0800 Date: 5 Feb 99 13:59:31 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 01:59:51 PDT In article <Pine.NXT.3.96.990205094819.16794A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU>, "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> writes: If disk space really isn't a big problem, then what is a good size for lowat? I find my machine really slowing down after my swapfile size grows over about 35MB (after which I reboot to bring it back down). Any recommendations for changes/additions to /etc/swaptab? I currently just have the default entry on NS 3.3: /private/vm/swapfile lowat=16777216 # 16 Meg low water mark That might be the wrong question. Remember that the swapfile is a (bad) replacement for real memory - if you regularily require substantial amounts of swapspace, then you probably should upgrade your memory (or the apps which eat swapfile for lunch). Swapfiles are great for letting you run more apps than you have memory for, but pretty sucky if one single app is swapping on a regular basis. That said, in this day and age, a 16M lowat is silly. Mine are all at 48M, and even that's a holdover from an earlier age (since my main machines have from 64M to 128M of RAM). For low-memory machines (32M or less), I'd recommend lowat at least 2x the size of the actual memory. For high-memory machines, lowat the same size as actual memory may be more appropriate. As I indicated, your swapfile can get fragmented, which may be why you notice slowdowns when it goes above 35M. On my 128M machine, I generally don't bother rebooting until my swapfile has started to get large enough to mostly fill the disk - on the order of 250M or so. I'll leave myself logged in for weeks at a time (I work from home), and never notice anything I consider to be a slowdown due to swapfile size. Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
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From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Andrew Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: hp8100 multiple copies printing problem Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:50:02 GMT Message-ID: <918309002.20828.0.nnrp-10.c30b1c08@news.demon.co.uk> References: <79fk56$kgr$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mgi@granite.geol.vt.edu In <79fk56$kgr$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Matthias Georg Imhof wrote: > I tried everything which has been recommended to get multiple copies > printouts to work with an HP 8100. > > I have set the "_nxfinalform" property in my printcap as well as in > NetInfo. Fatal bug with network printers and "_nxfinalform". If you use "_nxfinalform" you will get non-resident fonts downloaded with the document but multiple copies will not work, don't use "_nxfinalform" and multiple copies works but non-resident fonts are not downloaded with the document. I posted a couple of times in more depth about this in the past, see www.dejanews.com for more details. We sell a professional PPD for solving many (if not all) of the problems with network printers and the printing system including the old duplexing problem. A non-commercial version is available on the archives with various mods from contributors. The commercial version adds fast multiple copies, the original watermaking system (with many more options) and a number of improvements. -- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Missing Root password... Date: 5 Feb 1999 14:15:36 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Message-ID: <79eue8$ac82@mx2.uni-essen.de> References: <36b68daa.0@news.webt.com> <79659g$1ou@journal.concentric.net> <bartosh-0202992330140001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> <pdxbug-0302992340070001@i48-16-36.pdx.du.teleport.com> <36B93BC8.C6ED5BED@ewerks.com> <79d9eh$2na$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> <pdxbug-0502992350580001@i48-06-27.pdx.du.teleport.com> Basically what you (last) did was ok. You just after arriving at erase ^? intr ^C kill ^U # didn't do: 2. Finish the multiuser boot sequence manually to start up system daemons (including netinfo) sh /etc/rc & as James E. Quick (jq@quick.com) suggested. This will make the 'local' netinfo work and then the (change of) root passwd will be 'remembered'. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu (James W. Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Problem with gnu date command Date: 7 Feb 1999 01:28:15 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <79iq7f$kdp$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> After updating my office NeXT (m68k w. NS 3.2) with the gnu version of 'date' recently, I discovered a problem with 'make'. Here is what happens: % make getpitch make: *** Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time in the future (918355595 > 918347982) cc -o getpitch getpitch.c make: *** Warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete. This problem may actually be benign, but it certainly is disturbing. The reason I replaced date was to get around the Y2K problem. Then I tried replacing the gnu date with the original version, but the problem persisted. However, 'make' without the presence of a Makefile does not give an error message. Does anyone know anything about clock skew and how to unskew it? :^) Thanks for your assistance, Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu <--- please reply here
From: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Router info from NetInfo? Date: 06 Feb 1999 19:46:58 PST Organization: Caffeine Software Message-ID: <79j2bi$jbi@journal.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a 3.3 cube as netinfo server for an array of 4.2 machines. When I leave the clients in "vanilla" state, they get their identities right, they even get the name server info right from the netinfo, but they don't get the router. For that I need to modify "/etc/hostconfig". Interestingly, a G3 with Rhapsody on it does get the router info. What can be done to get the router automatically? Thanks, - Stan -- Nature Travelogues: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~stanj/Travel NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <29381917758824@digifix.com> Date: 7 Feb 1999 04:44:42 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <631918363637@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Peanuts Archive http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/Rhapsody http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/MacOSX http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/WebObjects http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData The Peanuts-Archive is the premier site in Europe and mirrored in whole or parts all over the world. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Site http://www.apple.com/macosx/ Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Developer Site http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server/ Apple Computer's WebObjects Site http://www.apple.com/webobjects/ Mac OS X Server Developer Documentation http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosxserver/macosxserver.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. 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From: fflak@aurora.alaska.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Can't dread or dwrite root defaults database Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 19:11:46 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <79kohc$bfm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Hi, I'm trying to run the Trillium TextToSpeech demo package. It appears that for this to work, a couple of items need to be set in root's defaults database: dwrite TextToSpeech systemPath "/LocalLibrary/TextToSpeech/system" dwrite TextToSpeech pitchOffset -4 However, these commands fail: # dwrite TextToSpeech systemPath "/LocalLibrary/TextToSpeech/system" dwrite: Couldn't write into database In fact, as near as I can tell, I can't read or write to the root defaults database. # dread -l dread: Can't open defaults database I tried copying new copies of /.NeXT/.NeXTdefaults.D and /.NeXT/.NeXTdefaults.L from my user account, where I can set these values, and that makes no difference. I still can't dread -l the new files. # ls -al total 70 drwxr-xr-x 3 root 1024 Feb 7 09:49 . drwxrwxrwt 19 root 3072 Feb 7 09:50 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root 32 Feb 7 09:44 .NeXTdefaults.D -rw-r--r-- 1 root 20 Feb 7 09:42 .NeXTdefaults.D.backup -rw-r--r-- 1 root 32768 Feb 7 09:48 .NeXTdefaults.L -rw-r--r-- 1 root 8192 Feb 7 09:42 .NeXTdefaults.L.backup drwx------ 2 root 1024 Jan 18 1998 .NextTrash -rw-r--r-- 1 root 15715 Feb 7 09:16 apps3_0.wmd -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1341 Feb 7 09:49 defaults3_1.wmd -rw-r--r-- 1 root 4375 Feb 7 09:16 suffixes3_1.m68k.wmd Here's the output I get from Trillium's "say" command. The GUI apps have the same sort of errors reported in alert panels. # say TTS client: Could not find systemPath in root's defaults database. TTS client: Cannot connect to TTS_Server. TTS client: Could not find systemPath in root's defaults database. TTS client: Cannot connect to TTS_Server. Cannot connect to Speech Server # Does anyone have any idea what I can do with this problem? Thanks, Lon Kelly fflak@aurora.alaska.edu -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: smarqz@LEXMARKunm.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: RadicalNews configuration w/proxy Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 20:09:14 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <36c6f0fd.60551843@90.0.0.200> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just downloaded the latest copy from your from the RadicalSite. I have it installed onto an OpenStep 4.2 box, which is connected via proxy to a dial up conncetion to my ISP. The proxy server is a Win98 box running WinProxy. Its proxy server address is 90.0.0.200. On the OpenStep box, the client address is 90.0.0.201, as set up in HostManager. OmniWeb correctly connects to the proxy. However, Radical News does not. Whenever I configure the NNTP host info, it reports Invalid NNTP host. I've used the real name of my isp NNTP server, the proxyy name 'misfit,' and the proxy address 90.0.0.200. All are not allowed. So, does Radical News support proxy connections? If so, how? If anybody has suggestions, I am eager to hear them! thank you, Steve PS I've contacted Radical about this, but no reply yet. I found no info on their site concerning proxies, usenet searches report unclear of success w/previous versions. AntiSpam measures in effect, please remove the printer from return address for any replies, or direct your emailer to the reply address. thx!
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: RadicalNews configuration w/proxy Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <36c6f0fd.60551843@90.0.0.200> Message-ID: <IUqv2.313$0l2.354133@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:15:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 20:15:20 EDT In <36c6f0fd.60551843@90.0.0.200> smarqz@LEXMARKunm.edu wrote: > So, does Radical News support proxy connections? If so, how? It does not appear that way, at least of recent. As for Radical.com's lack of responsiveness, my guess is that they are 1) Busy on the MacOS port of RadicalNews or 2) Working on projects that actually make them money while they wait to see what Apple is actually going to do. TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Spix) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Run Capper on Startup Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 02:52:47 +0100 Organization: Customer of NDH Netzwerkdienste Hoeger GmbH Message-ID: <1999020802524778966@port186.telelev.net> References: <36BA3823.3E8B1CF9@rpi.edu> <bartosh-0402992241570001@imac.resnet.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Feb 1999 01:52:27 GMT Michael Bartosh <bartosh@tamu.edu> wrote: > Is there anyhting I can put in rc.local or something to make Capper > activities start up on reboot without having to log in? Yes, it's mentioned in the Documentation of CAPer. Read the stuff which is available from the first menu item... -- (joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de)
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can't dread or dwrite root defaults database Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <79kohc$bfm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Message-ID: <LSqv2.310$0l2.354133@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:13:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 20:13:15 EDT In <79kohc$bfm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> fflak@aurora.alaska.edu wrote: > I'm trying to run the Trillium TextToSpeech demo package. It appears that for > this to work, a couple of items need to be set in root's defaults database: > In fact, as near as I can tell, I can't read or write to the root defaults > database. My guess (and that's all it is) would be that root's $HOME is defined as /root rather than / Try 'finger root' and see where the $HOME is TjL ps -- Is Trillium still selling the product? -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: artdotcom@aol.com (ArtDotCom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Missing Root password... Date: 8 Feb 1999 00:43:57 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <36B93BC8.C6ED5BED@ewerks.com> Message-ID: <19990207194357.14437.00001046@ng-cd1.aol.com> I have never tried this or have to resort to this, but the earlier post removing the battery should do the trick. I purchased my computer from an computer professor and he told me that if I ever forgot my password, to simply remove the battery for about 20mins. Can't say that this works from personal experience, but give it a try.
From: artdotcom@aol.com (ArtDotCom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Where can I get a NEXT? Date: 8 Feb 1999 00:50:34 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <78iqqt$aib$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Message-ID: <19990207195034.14437.00001051@ng-cd1.aol.com> Another good source for hardware is Spherical Solutions at www.orb.com They are a little pricier that the others, but they sell they machines with NeXTstep 3.3 User and Dev on the harddrive. Black Hole is the best source and most knowledgable company to deal with, Rob Blessin the president will answer all questions! Deep Space Tech has the lowest prices that I've seen so far....at $195 for a 25mhz monostation complete (16/400, mon, keyb, mouse) that's quite the deal! Shipping is about $60 to $80 depending on whether it;s shipped via UPS or Fedex, so don't forget to factor that in as you price out your purchase.
Message-ID: <36BE807A.B1AC659C@netcom.ca> From: Kim Friesen <kfriesen@netcom.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Openstep 4.1 install on Intel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:13:14 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:11:34 EDT Organization: Netcom Canada Hi, I am trying to install Openstep 4.1 Mach for Intel on a Dell 350 XPS. Whenever I try to format the partition it halts with a 'Disk Initialization Failure' error and halts. The machine Intel PII 350 IBM 8.4 GB hard disk (ide 0, disk 1) Western Digital 8.4 GB hard disk (ide 0, disk 2) NEC CDROM (ide 1, disk 1) Yamaha SCSI CD-ROM/CDR (SCSI) Adaptec 2940 SCSI controller Very strange, it also seems to delete other partitions like Linux Swap without telling me. BeOS, Win95 and Linux have no problems with this configuration Any thoughts ??
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Openstep 4.1 install on Intel Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <36BE807A.B1AC659C@netcom.ca> Message-ID: <4awv2.412$0l2.527469@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 07:15:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 02:15:12 EDT In <36BE807A.B1AC659C@netcom.ca> Kim Friesen wrote: > Whenever I try to format the partition it halts with a 'Disk > Initialization Failure' error and halts. > IBM 8.4 GB hard disk (ide 0, disk 1) > Western Digital 8.4 GB hard disk (ide 0, disk 2) > BeOS, Win95 and Linux have no problems with this configuration > > Any thoughts ?? Yeah.... my thought is that OpenStep can't handle the drive being over 2gig very well. The other OSes are more recent and better able to handle such things. I don't know IDE at all, but my suggestion would be to try and partition the drive and install NeXTStep on the first partition and go from there. TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Large IDE drive [LONG] (was: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive...) Date: 9 Feb 1999 13:55:49 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <79pep5$sap$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <918563409.153231@newsvl21> In article <918563409.153231@newsvl21> piers@ilink.de writes: > # The IBM-DTTA-351010 should be a 10.1 GB disk with 19650 cylinders > # but for some reason (yet unknown by me) it reports a total capacity > # of 8063.51 MB (16383 cylinders) when queried with > # /usr/etc/idemodes /dev/rhd1h. That's because the EIDE driver for NEXTSTEP/Openstep maxes out at about 8.4GB (??), which is a known current limitation. Read the NeXTanswer / Release notes for the EIDE driver for details: http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n71933?OpenDocument&webobject s Hmm... that seems to be the only reference I can find that mentioned the 8.4GB limitation. Keep in mind that NT 4.0 also had this limitation, at least until Service Pack 4. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: piers@ilink.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Large IDE drive [LONG] (was: Answer: what is the -d option to /usr/etc/disk??? large IDE drive...) Date: 9 Feb 1999 12:30:09 GMT Organization: Berlin.DE Message-ID: <918563409.153231@newsvl21> References: <794pre$430$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <7974nn$lv6$1@unlnews.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've followed the discussion about partitioning large IDE drives with interest, since I've just purchased a new machine with a 10 GB IDE drive upon which I want to install Openstep 4.2. For some reason, Rex Dieter's disktab-less approach did not work for me. So here's my solution, using a disktab, and manually executing the commands of the Openstep installation process (in order to prevent the Openstep installation process from repartitioning the disk). Regards Piers Uso Walter <piers@ilink.de> ilink Kommunikationssysteme GmbH ---------------------------------- Installation of Openstep 4.2 / Intel on large IDE disks by Piers Uso Walter <piers@ilink.de> With many thanks to the news postings of Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>, Axel Habermann <kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de>, Helmut Heller <heller@lrz.de>, Dylan Kohler <dkohler@hotmail.com>, and Satoru Uzawa <satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu>, as well as NeXTanswer #1533, without which I would have utterly failed at this. 1. Disk partition issues with large Disk Drives The standard Openstep 4.2 installation routines are not able to correctly use all available space on disk drives larger than 4GB. We therefore have to prepare the disk partitions on a second system that already runs Openstep. We will assume the use of an IDE disk and will use the IDE disk based devices /dev/hd1a and /dev/rhd1h as examples. If you are using a SCSI disk, please insert the appropriate SCSI devices (e.g. /dev/sd1a and /dev/rsd1h) instead. We will only mention SCSI where it makes an actual difference in the commands. 1.1 Install the large drive in a system with an installed Openstep (setting the drive to "slave" for IDE devices, or setting an unused SCSI-ID for SCSI drives). Start up the computer and log in as root. 1.2 Append /etc/disktab with an appropriate entry for the new hard drive, e.g.: # # Openstep 4.2 / Intel Disktab for IBM-DTTA-351010 # # The IBM-DTTA-351010 should be a 10.1 GB disk with 19650 cylinders # but for some reason (yet unknown by me) it reports a total capacity # of 8063.51 MB (16383 cylinders) when queried with # /usr/etc/idemodes /dev/rhd1h. # I tried ignoring this, using a disktab of 19650 cylinders (9671.48 MB), # but this did not work. So I reverted to this disktab with a smaller # capacity. # # Piers Uso Walter <piers@ilink.de>, February 6, 1999. # dtta-351010|DTTA-351010|IBM-DTTA-351010:\ :ty=fixed_rw_ide:nc#16383:nt#16:ns#63:ss#512:rm#5400:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=hdmach:z0#127:z1#255:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#4194304:sb#4194304:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD:\ :pc#8388608:sc#4194304:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#32:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\ :ic:tc=4.3BSD:\ :pd#12582912:sd#3928168:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#32:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\ :id:td=4.3BSD: 1.3 Unmount new drive: /usr/etc/umount /dev/hd1a 1.4 Create one large Nextstep partition: /usr/etc/fdisk /dev/rhd1h -removePartitioning -useAllSectors /usr/etc/fdisk /dev/rhd1h -setAvailableToNeXT -useAllSectors 1.5 List disk partitioning info (use first command for IDE, second one for SCSI): /usr/etc/idemodes /dev/rhd1h /usr/etc/scsimodes /dev/rsd1h 1.6 Write new partitioning info from disktab entry to disk label: /usr/etc/disk -u /dev/rhd1h disk name: IBM-DTTA-351010 disk type: fixed_rw_ide Disk utility disk> label label information: print, write? write enter host name: os42 enter disk label: ibm_dtta_351010 WARNING: using information from /etc/disktab to construct new disk label. If all you want to do is change the host name or label name, then use the "host" or "name" commands. If the information in /etc/disktab doesn't match the disk geometry specified by the current disk label then the disk contents may be unreadable. OK to construct new disk label? y disk> label label information: print, write? print current label information on disk: disk label version #3 disk label: ibm_dtta_351010 disk name: dtta-351010 disk type: fixed_rw_ide ncyls 16383 ntrack 16 nsect 63 rpm 5400 sector_size 512 front_porch 320 back_porch 0 ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_off 0 boot blocks: #1 at 127 #2 at 255 bootfile: hdmach host name: os42 root partition: a part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type a 0 4194304 8192 1024 32 4096 10% yes time no 4.3BSD b 4194304 4194304 8192 1024 32 4096 10% yes time no 4.3BSD c 8388608 4194304 8192 1024 32 4096 10% yes time no 4.3BSD d 12582912 3928168 8192 1024 32 4096 10% yes time no 4.3BSD disk> q 1.7 Create file systems on all partions (including bootstrap programs on the first partition): /usr/etc/newfs -v /dev/rhd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rhd1b /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rhd1c /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rhd1d 1.8 Write boot sector to root partition (should already be there but I actually needed this step): /usr/etc/disk -b /dev/rhd1h 1.9 Shutdown and install the newly partitioned drive in the new system (setting the drive to "master" for IDE devices, or setting an appropriate SCSI-ID for SCSI drives). 2. Installation of Openstep Base (doing by hand what the installation process would do automatically) 2.1 Insert Openstep 4.2 CD Insert Openstep 4.2 boot floppy Start computer 2.2 Go to Setup, activate boot from drive A Quit setup, saving changes 2.3 Start installation, waiting for "boot:" prompt Type -s for single user mode Select the language (1 for english) Confirm that you want to prepare the Openstep installation (1) 2.4 When promted, remove Openstep 4.2 boot floppy and insert device driver floppy SCSI driver for CD-ROM: EIDE and ATAPI Device Controller SCSI driver for harddisk: EIDE and ATAPI Device Controller Continue installation until you've reached single user mode ("#" prompt) 2.5 Run the following to install the Base System: /NextCD/CDIS/bin/stty -tabs HD=/private/tmp/mnta mount -n /dev/hd0a ${HD} mkdirs ${HD}/private/vm mkdirs ${HD}/private/tmp mkfile 16m ${HD}/private/vm/swapfile mach_swapon -o nocompress ${HD}/private/vm/swapfile /NextCD/CDIS/ditto -T -arch i386 -bom /usr/lib/NextStep/BaseSystem.bom \ -outBom ${HD}/BaseSystem.bom / ${HD} mv ${HD}/BaseSystem.bom ${HD}/usr/lib/Nextstep/BaseSystem.bom 2.6 Run this to begin configuring the system: echo "/dev/hd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1" > ${HD}/private/etc/fstab echo "/dev/sd0a /NEXTSTEP_INSTALL 4.3 ro,noquota 0 2" >> \ ${HD}/private/etc/fstab chmod 1777 ${HD} chmod 1777 ${HD}/private/tmp echo "LANGUAGE=English" > ${HD}/private/adm/CDIS.custom ln -s Drivers/i386 ${HD}/private/Devices mkdirs ${HD}/usr/Devices/System.config echo "ROOT=/" >> ${HD}/private/adm/CDIS.custom echo "FDISK_FLAGS=" >> ${HD}/private/adm/CDIS.custom echo "diskie=hd0a" >> ${HD}/private/adm/CDIS.custom BOOTDRIVERS=`/NextCD/CDIS/sysconfig -c -a i386` cp /private/Drivers/i386/System.config/Default.table \ ${HD}/usr/Devices/System.config/Default.install DEFAULT_FILE=/usr/Devices/System.config/Default.table grep -v 'Boot Drivers' ${HD}/usr/Devices/System.config/Default.install >\ ${HD}${DEFAULT_FILE} echo "\"Boot Drivers\" = \"${BOOTDRIVERS}\";" >> ${HD}${DEFAULT_FILE} echo "\"Language\" = \"English\";" >> ${HD}${DEFAULT_FILE} 2.7 Now reboot with the Openstep install floppy inserted (using the 'reboot' command). At the "boot:" prompt type "-s fd()mach_kernel rootdev=hd0a". Select the language (1 for english) Confirm that you want to prepare the Openstep installation (1) When promted, remove Openstep 4.2 boot floppy and insert device driver floppy SCSI driver for CD-ROM: EIDE and ATAPI Device Controller SCSI driver for harddisk: EIDE and ATAPI Device Controller Continue installation until you've reached single user mode ("#" prompt) 2.8 Add EIDE driver to Startup configuration: cd /private/Devices/System.config vi Default.table Add "EIDE" to the list of "Boot drivers" vi Default.install Add "EIDE" to the list of "Boot drivers" 2.9 mount -n /dev/sd0a /OPENSTEP_4.2 INSTALLHINTS=/usr/Devices/System.config/InstallHints rm -rf ${INSTALLHINTS} mkdir ${INSTALLHINTS} BOOTDRIVERS=`/OPENSTEP_4.2/NextCD/CDIS/sysconfig -c -a i386` for driver in ${BOOTDRIVERS} do /OPENSTEP_4.2/NextCD/CDIS/sysconfig -d ${driver} > \ ${INSTALLHINTS}/${driver}.table 2>>/dev/null done chmod -R 777 ${INSTALLHINTS} 2.10 Eject device driver floppy and reboot (using the 'reboot' command). At the "boot:" prompt, type -v for verbose mode 2.11 When the Configure.app has started, add/remove the following drivers: Display: add Default VGA Audio: add SystemBeep Other: remove IDE, PCMCIA add: EIDE/ATAPI Save changes. 2.12 Insert Openstep install floppy and reboot. At the "boot:" prompt type "-s fd()mach_kernel rootdev=hd0a". Select the language (1 for english) Confirm that you want to prepare the Openstep installation (1) When promted, remove Openstep 4.2 boot floppy and insert device driver floppy SCSI driver for CD-ROM: EIDE and ATAPI Device Controller SCSI driver for harddisk: EIDE and ATAPI Device Controller Continue installation until you've reached single user mode ("#" prompt) 2.13 Add EIDE driver to Startup configuration: cd /private/Devices/System.config vi Instance0.table Add "EIDE" to the list of "Boot drivers" 2.14 Eject device driver floppy and reboot (using the 'reboot' command). Go to Setup, deactivate boot from drive A Quit setup, saving changes Reboot 2.15 Now the Openstep installation process will continue normally, asking you to select the packages to be installed as its next step.
From: beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu (James W. Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Problem with gnu date command Date: 9 Feb 1999 18:37:10 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <79pv8m$551$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <79iq7f$kdp$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <79mo6n$nmv@papoose.quick.com> James E. Quick (jq@papoose.quick.com) wrote: : In article <79iq7f$kdp$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, : James W. Beauchamp <beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote: : >After updating my office NeXT (m68k w. NS 3.2) with the gnu version of : >'date' recently, I discovered a problem with 'make'. Here is what happens: : > : > % make getpitch : > make: *** Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time in the future : > (918355595 > 918347982) : > cc -o getpitch getpitch.c : > make: *** Warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete. : > : >This problem may actually be benign, but it certainly is disturbing. The : >reason I replaced date was to get around the Y2K problem. : > : >Then I tried replacing the gnu date with the original version, but the : >problem persisted. However, 'make' without the presence of a Makefile does : >not give an error message. : > : >Does anyone know anything about clock skew and how to unskew it? :^) : : The underlying problem is that the time stamps of files in your build : directory are inconsistent. When a system is running normally, time : always increases monotonically to the future. System clocks never : run backwards, even for one tick. But according to the date command the dates/times are consistent. Even so, if I 'touch' the source file on a "good" computer (one whose date command was not messed with), the compile works fine on that machine. : The problem you are having could be caused by several things. : : You may be compiling on a disk that is nfs mounted from another host, : and the nfs server's clock is in the future relative to the client's. : To fix this, just make sure that both system clocks are synchronized : with one another. ntpd (or xntpd) are typically good to within a : millisecond or so. This could be the problem. I will check on it. However, I don't think it's possible to synchonize them exactly. We've had this NSF situation going for about 4 years, and I've never seen this make problem before. : Another possibility is that you unpacked the source, then set your : system clock manually into the (relative) past before trying a compile. : Thus each file created by the make process, is older than some of : it's predecessors. Since make used time stamps to deduce its work : plan, it can no longer trust what is going on. : : In this case I suggest the following. If your clock is right, : just touch Makefile, and try remaking. If your clock is in the : past, set the correct time before trying again. The date on the Makefile is really old (1996), so I don't understand why touching it would help. : : The rule is simple, any file modified after another (from a data : flow standpoint) must have a timestamp after that other. Amen.
MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Samba configs - please References: <19990210061703.nothere@postoffice.net> From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Message-ID: <36c179f5.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: 10 Feb 99 12:22:13 GMT ian@nyro.com (I.H.Stewart) wrote: >Need some sample samba.conf >that show file sharing and printing >to NLP for my Win95 clients. > >Mine is not working and I would love something >to compare against. no problemo, mine smb.conf gives the Win-machine access to /samba/tmp on my NeXT. The NeXTlaser can be accessed as NeXT_Laser (as stated in the printcap-file in /samba/lib). Important is the line interfaces = 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0 with my NeXTs IP 192.168.1.1. Without this nothing will work: --snip-- ; Global Section, Parameter for all services [global] printing = bsd ; Path to printcap, printcap itself is generated by ; lpc status | grep ":" | sed s/:/\|/ > /samba/lib/printcap printcap name = /samba/lib/printcap load printers = yes ; You should generate this user with UserManager guest account = samba ; For all readable, must exist lock directory = /samba/locks share modes = yes mangle case = yes mangled names = yes default case = lower case sensitive = no preserve case = yes short preserve case = yes log level = 3 workgroup = WORKGROUP ; default service, if no other service is available default service = tmp ; maximal log file size max log size = 1000 ; a log file for every client log file = /samba/var/log.%m ; dies ist sehr, sehr noetig!! interfaces = 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0 ; to automatically generate the home directory services [homes] comment = Homedirectories browseable = no read only = no create mode = 0755 ; to automatically generate all printers from printcap [printers] comment = All printers browseable = no printable = yes postscript = True public = yes writable = no create mode = 0700 ; Must exist with write rights! path = /samba/tmp [tmp] comment = Temp Space, default service path = /samba/tmp read only = no public = yes ---snip--- greets Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
Message-ID: <36C19CEC.73118BAA@s-vision.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:51:24 -0700 From: Christian Shank <chrish@s-vision.com> Organization: Sorenson Vision, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: black hardware and y2k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Q: Where can I find info on black hardware and Y2K? Specifically, the TurboColor NextStation. I have this concern after examining Apples OpenStep website yesterday and seeing that NS 3.3 is not Y2K complient, with your only sollution to upgrade to Openstep. I'm not too keen on this because NS 3.3 runs fairly fast on my black hardware, and I'm affraid Openstep will slow it down, not to mention the fact that they will probably make me buy OpenStep. Anyhow, if anyone knows any Y2K info for black hardware, please let me know. Christian Shank Graduate Student Utah State University chrish@s-vision.com
From: John David Duncan <jdd@efn.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: OS 4 resolver problem Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:24:37 -0800 Organization: Oregon Public Networking Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.4.05.9902091202260.845-100000@figbash> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have two NeXT turbo slabs running openstep 4.1, and both have some strange problems with mapping between names and addresses. This becomes apparent in applications like ssh and samba that do "paranoid" reverse lookups. One machine, figbash, will randomly forget a reverse mapping, and not be able to resolve that address back to a name until it has been rebooted. The problem is being manifested in ssh like this: Feb 9 11:58:41 figbash sshd[880]: log: Connection from 206.163.176.4 port 1023 Feb 9 11:58:42 figbash sshd[880]: log: Address 206.163.176.4 maps to caritas.efn.org, but this does not map back to the address - POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT! Feb 9 11:58:42 figbash sshd[880]: log: Connection from 206.163.176.4 not allowed. But nslookup and dig, on the same host, know the right answer: bash-2.00$ dig -x 206.163.176.4 [snip] ;; ANSWERS: 4.176.163.206.in-addr.arpa. 14400 PTR caritas.efn.org. I take it that, possibly, the bug is in lookupd, and nslookup uses its own resolver routines rather than relying on lookupd. On this machine, rebooting always solves the problem, and it always reappears after a day or so of uptime. On the other machine, cyclops, the problem is not intermittent. It is consistent, and comes out in the samba logs as: host name/address mismatch: 204.214.99.20 != ares.office.efn.orgMatchname failed on ares.office.efn.org 204.214.99.20 And again, dig gets the truth: ares.office.efn.org. 86400 A 204.214.99.20 20.99.214.204.in-addr.arpa. 14400 PTR ares.office.efn.org. Is anyone familiar with this problem?
From: Mike Paquette <mpaque@apple.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: black hardware and y2k Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:16:37 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <36C1E929.2FED1527@ncal.verio.com> References: <36C19CEC.73118BAA@s-vision.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christian Shank wrote: > > Q: Where can I find info on black hardware and Y2K? Specifically, the > TurboColor NextStation. > > I have this concern after examining Apples OpenStep website yesterday > and seeing that NS 3.3 is not Y2K complient, with your only sollution to > upgrade to Openstep. I'm not too keen on this because NS 3.3 runs > fairly fast on my black hardware, and I'm affraid Openstep will slow it > down, not to mention the fact that they will probably make me buy > OpenStep. > > Anyhow, if anyone knows any Y2K info for black hardware, please let me > know. The hardware itself won't have any Y2K problems. The problems are software-related, are a pain in the butt, won't totally trash your system, and often are simple-minded things like: printf( "19%2d", time_struct_year_field ); instead of: printf( "%4d:, time_struct_year_field + 1900 ); buried deep in some of the command line utilities. Here are the big ticket items for most users in NeXTSTEP 3.3 and earlier, and some fixes I'm aware of: 1) Unix date command can't set years of 2000 or later Get the GNU date command. http://www.peak.org/next/apps/unix/date.0.2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz 2) Preferences Date/Time panel Use the GNU date command. Anybody got a replacement Preferences module? 3) nroff, troff may print the wrong date in documents Live with it for existing docs (mostly man pages), or pick up a copy of GNU groff. Most of the command line jocks I know have switched to TeX for their docs needs, or gone over to a GUI. 4) Command line 'mail' program may get the date wrong Use Mail.app, or one of the third party solutions, many of which are at www.peak.org. 5) at, atrun, atq: per user timed command execution Get Paul Vixie's cron software. It works well, and is more secure, too! http://www.peak.org/next/apps/unix/CronVixie.2.1.NIHS.bs.tar.gz Someone with more time than I have might want to put together a Y2K Survival Pack of these utilities, with a nice Installer wrapper. Here's the official blurb right off of enterprise.apple.com: The following is Apple Computer's statement regarding the Year 2000 compliance of NeXTSTEP 3.3 applications and the NeXTSTEP operating system. For Year 2000 information on other Apple Enterprise software products such as OPENSTEP and WebObjects, please see our Apple Enterprise Year 2000 home page at http://enterprise.apple.com/y2k/. 1. The NeXTSTEP 3.3 operating system is not Year 2000 compliant. NeXTSTEP 3.3 contains known Year 2000 problems, including problems with the date command and the Preferences application that may make it impossible to set the date on your computer after January 1, 2000. There are also known problems with email and with certain Unix utilities such as at, atrun, atq, troff, nroff, and mail. Customers using NeXTSTEP 3.3 should upgrade to OPENSTEP or MacOS X-based solutions. Please contact your sales representative for sales and pricing information. 2. One framework in NeXTSTEP 3.3 which performed explicit date-handling was DBKit, the predecessor to Apple's Enterprise Objects Framework. DBKit did not handle dates in a Year 2000-compliant fashion, and therefore any application which makes use of DBKit is likely to experience Year 2000 problems. 3. The third-party tools and libraries that shipped with NeXTSTEP 3.3 have not been audited for Year 2000 compliance. Some third-party tools and libraries may not be Year 2000 compliant in the versions bundled with NeXTSTEP 3.3. 3. NeXTSTEP 3.3 did not have an equivalent to the OPENSTEP 'NSDate' object; most applications and frameworks used UNIX utilities and functions to manage dates. These UNIX constructs and any custom date handling an application performs may experience Year 2000 problems. For this reason, the applications that shipped with NeXTSTEP 3.3 may not handle the Year 2000 transition properly, even if they are run in an OPENSTEP environment. Your custom NeXTSTEP applications will run in an OPENSTEP environment only if they do no date handling, or if they were specifically programmed with custom Year 2000-compliant date handling routines.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot Subject: cmsg cancel <79q5e1$ln3$3@news.online.de> Control: cancel <79q5e1$ln3$3@news.online.de> Date: 09 Feb 1999 20:40:56 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.79q5e1$ln3$3@news.online.de> Sender: qytuqdrh@somethingfunny.net Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
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From: frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Frank Burgbacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: portmapper Distribution: world Message-ID: <36c2966c.0@news.uni-konstanz.de> Date: 11 Feb 1999 09:35:56 +0100 Organization: University of Constance, Germany Hello Experts, since a crash of one our servers my machine (donald) is no longer reachable via NFS. On my console I get the following message: Feb 11 09:17:44 donald portmap[8850]: get_myaddress: ioctl: No such device or address I sprayed donald and there was 90% packet loss. "rusers" gives the same error message, but "rusers donald" works (always done on another machine). On the other hand, I can mount donald again on some other machine via NFS without problems. So something seems to be wrong with the portmapper. Can someone help me? -- Frank Burgbacher frank.burgbacher@uni-konstanz.de
From: Marcel Volkerts <volkerts@kvi.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Howto to install OS4 on a Cube without a CDROM drive Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:40:31 +0000 Organization: KVI Message-ID: <36C2CFBE.BB2AD312@kvi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D48346CA5A44F6C2CA946A72" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D48346CA5A44F6C2CA946A72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Yesterday I got my Turbo Dimension Cube with Nextstep 3.3 preinstalled. Previously i have been running OS4.1 on intel. Since for OS4.1 I have the original media for both User and developer I decided to upgrade the Cube to 4.1. But the Cube does not have a CDROM player, only a floppy. So I NFS mounted the CDROM player of my intel bos on the Cube and ran Upgrade.app. After 80% of the upgrade it failed saying "upgrade thread died". I tried it a few times and this happend every time. Now th machine is in an unusabel state. Can i connect my SCSI pioneer 12x cdrom to the cube and install it from there? And if not, what should i do? Also, how do use the video in and ouit features of the Dimension board? I could not find any Apps for it. Thanks, Marcel --------------D48346CA5A44F6C2CA946A72 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="volkerts.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Marcel Volkerts Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="volkerts.vcf" begin:vcard n:Volkerts;Marcel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:KVI;Experimental Nuclear Physics adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:volkerts@kvi.nl note;quoted-printable:Phone +31 50 3632054=0D=0AFax +31 50 3634003 x-mozilla-cpt:;-18016 fn:Marcel Volkerts end:vcard --------------D48346CA5A44F6C2CA946A72--
From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NetinfoManager on Netinfo master problem... Date: 11 Feb 1999 10:29:26 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Message-ID: <79ube6$a4a6@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <1999021101114364019@port161.telelev.net> Joerg Spix (joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de) wrote: : Hi, Hello! : : I have a problem on my netinfo master. NetinfoManager terminates [...] : Any hints? What does niutil, nidump etc. say about the condition of your NI-database(s). Are they ok? Maybe the removal of all 'defaults'-database (dremove or defaults remove depending on NS or OS) for NetinfoManager in the user's (root, I assume) account can help. Also the 'language' selection in the 'defaults'-database (GLOBAL, I think, but am not sure, could be System or NeXT1 also) sometimes interferes with the starting of programs (Maple) for our users, after having worked for months flawlessly before. Removal of that entry makes it work again (for us). Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: portmapper Date: 11 Feb 1999 10:20:36 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <79uatk$a4a5@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <36c2966c.0@news.uni-konstanz.de> Frank Burgbacher (frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de) wrote: : Hello Experts, Hello! I'm no expert, sorry :-), but ... : : since a crash of one our servers my machine (donald) is no longer reachable : via NFS. On my console I get the following message: : : Feb 11 09:17:44 donald portmap[8850]: get_myaddress: ioctl: No such device : or address ... this could indicate, that the system isn't getting it's (IP-)address or an IP address for a/its name. Could the name-resolution on that machine be in trouble? (resolv.conf or NI-counterpart and or 'lookupd'-ordering in NI?) If one of my machines (an IBM RT) doesn't get its name properly at startup due to some 'internal delays', it e.g. doesn't run the automount-er, but lets it die. : : [...] : So something seems to be wrong with the portmapper. Can someone help : me? As many NFS actions are bound to rpc's which are using portmapper services ... 'Handmounted' NFS could (but doesn't have to) use the 'well-known-port 2049' for NFS and thus bypass portmapper. Of any help? Don't know :-). Have a look at it, then you can tell :-). Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Spix) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NetinfoManager on Netinfo master problem... Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:39:44 +0100 Organization: Customer of NDH Netzwerkdienste Hoeger GmbH Message-ID: <1999021200394498802@port220.telelev.net> References: <1999021101114364019@port161.telelev.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Feb 1999 23:39:13 GMT Joerg Spix <joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de> wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem on my netinfo master. NetinfoManager terminates after a > few seconds before any menu has been shown. I even restored the > /etc/netinfo database(s) from a floppy disk which worked before > (NIManager did start with them), but it still doesn't work. > Any hints? I forgot to mention, that I can start NetInfoManager from a netinfo client and look into any local and network database. I also changed /etc/fstab several times to include CD-ROMs (which doesn't work as I know now), probably with wrong device names at the first attemmpts. But this is cleaned now, only the local disk partitions are listed now. Joerg -- (joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de)
From: Ryan Scott <scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is it safe to remove swapfile.front? Date: 12 Feb 1999 01:26:42 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <7a000i$s92$3@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> <SCOTT.99Feb4100629@slave.doubleu.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.990211085236.23613B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu In <Pine.NXT.3.96.990211085236.23613B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: > My machine has 48MB of RAM with the default 16MB swapfile. It seems to > make sense to increase the swapfile size and 48MB seems like a good > number. Do I need to go to single user and use mkfile (if so, what > exactly do I do) or could I simply modify /etc/swaptab and reboot? Thanks. > > Rob > > Ack! Don't use mkfile on the swapfile, it could be very messy. As you suggest, change the lowat value in /etc/swaptab & reboot. See the man page for swaptab. PS. You don't need to go to single user to modify the swaptab. -- ________________________________________________ Ryan P. Scott Laser and Electro-Optics Research Group UC Davis - Department of Applied Science Tel: (530)754-4358 Fax: (530)752-1652 Email: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu ________________________________________________
From: float@interport.net (void) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: netmsgserver[107]: Panic: tcp Date: 12 Feb 1999 02:07:16 GMT Message-ID: <slrn7c736h.8th.float@interport.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Feb 1999 02:07:16 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.3 (UNIX) Greetings once again, NeXTSteppers. While getting my printer to work (see my posts to comp.sys.next.hardware earlier this evening), I rebooted my NeXTStep 3.3 slab. It came up with a curious error message: Feb 11 20:49:03 multivac netmsgserver[107]: network_init Feb 11 20:49:03 multivac netmsgserver[107]: netname_init.netname_check_in fails, kr = 1000. Feb 11 20:49:03 multivac netmsgserver[107]: tcp_listener.bind failed: errno=48 Feb 11 20:49:04 multivac netmsgserver[107]: Panic: netname_init fails. Feb 11 20:49:05 multivac netmsgserver[107]: Panic: tcp Now, I'm more familiar with traditional unixes, where a panic is a showstopper and precedes a reboot. But my system came up all the way and appears to be functioning fine. /etc# grep netmsgserver * NETMSG_CONFIG:# env compat_server /usr/mach/etc/old_netmsgserver /etc# I couldn't find any references in any files in /etc to NETMSG_CONFIG or compat_server. I don't have a /usr/mach directory, so that lead nowhere. The netmsgserver doesn't appear to still be running. I have no man pages for [old_]netmsgserver. Is this anything to be concerned about? Any clues as to the genesis of this error or even the function of netmsgserver would be greatly appreciated. -- Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems."
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is it safe to remove swapfile.front? Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.99Feb11225650@slave.doubleu.com> References: <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> <SCOTT.99Feb4100629@slave.doubleu.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.990211085236.23613B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> <7a000i$s92$3@mark.ucdavis.edu> In-reply-to: Ryan Scott's message of 12 Feb 1999 01:26:42 GMT Date: 11 Feb 99 22:56:50 NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:59:52 PDT In article <7a000i$s92$3@mark.ucdavis.edu>, Ryan Scott <scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu> writes: In <Pine.NXT.3.96.990211085236.23613B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU>, "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: > My machine has 48MB of RAM with the default 16MB swapfile. It > seems to make sense to increase the swapfile size and 48MB seems > like a good number. Do I need to go to single user and use > mkfile (if so, what exactly do I do) or could I simply modify > /etc/swaptab and reboot? Ack! Don't use mkfile on the swapfile, it could be very messy. Uh? Why not? Creating a swapfile is pretty much the entire reason for mkfile's existence. As you suggest, change the lowat value in /etc/swaptab & reboot. See the man page for swaptab. The problem with this versus using mkfile is that the lowat value just determines where the swapfile should truncate to on boot. If it's already smaller than that, it won't enlarge it. So, the swapfile will be enlarged in piecemeal fashion, which means that the system may inadvertently fragment the swapfile's disk blocks to a certain extent. mkfile run in single user mode, on the other hand, is as good of a protection against fragmenting the swapfile as you're going to get, short of a custom program to break the FFS algorithms and forcibly allocate swap space within a cylinder group (FFS drops something like 1M before going on to a different cylinder group. I've considered writing a program to just fill the cylinder group with swapspace :-). In single user mode, there won't be other processes interleaving writes to the filesystem with swapfile allocation. [This isn't to say that with today's large and smart disk drives, most people should get reasonable performance most of the time by just raising lowat. The only time swapfile fragmentation should be a _real_ problem is if you consistently fill your filesystem.] Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is it safe to remove swapfile.front? Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:41:34 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Sender: thomas@news.online.de (thomas) Message-ID: <1999Feb12.104134.461@news.online.de> References: <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> <SCOTT.99Feb4100629@slave.doubleu.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.990211085236.23613B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> <7a000i$s92$3@mark.ucdavis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu In <7a000i$s92$3@mark.ucdavis.edu> Ryan Scott wrote: > > Ack! Don't use mkfile on the swapfile, it could be very messy. As What would be messy with this ?
From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Sharing CDs over NFS? Date: 12 Feb 1999 08:47:13 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Message-ID: <7a0pqh$a4a28@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <1999021101114063829@port161.telelev.net> <79v9ve$or$2@news.spacelab.net> Charles W. Swiger (chuck@codefab.com) wrote: : joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Spix) wrote: : >I have a problem sharing CDs over NFS with NS 3.3. : : You can't NFS export a CD-ROM filesystem under NEXTSTEP...it doesn't work : right. Although you're right in this - as far as I can tell -, you *can* NFS export the NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP CD's from a NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP system. They are in native NS/OS-fs, not CD-ROM-fs format, if I've got that right. I did the exportseveral time successfully for upgrading, but only for like types, i.e. NS from NS for NS upgrade, OS from OS for OS upgrade, although I don't see a reason why this shouldn't work 'crossed' (NS to OS, OS to NS) either. While upgrading this way, you have to watch out, that the network works fine all the time (no interrupts) and that the 'exporting' machine shouldn't have much/anything else to do (at least I had to); otherwise there might be a timeout (I had it once). But iirc one could 're-enter' at the point after the system checks, what to upgrade (the upgrade-plan) and saving the 'old' configuration, if you opted so, don't let the system make a 'new' upgrade plan ( or 'saving') after a non-successfull upgrade! Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is it safe to remove swapfile.front? Date: 12 Feb 1999 15:52:30 +0100 Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Sender: twetzel@lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de Message-ID: <tqfaeyjd68h.fsf@lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de> References: <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> <SCOTT.99Feb4100629@slave.doubleu.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.990211085236.23613B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> <7a000i$s92$3@mark.ucdavis.edu> <1999Feb12.104134.461@news.online.de> thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) writes: > In <7a000i$s92$3@mark.ucdavis.edu> Ryan Scott wrote: > > > > > Ack! Don't use mkfile on the swapfile, it could be very messy. As > > What would be messy with this ? Trying it in multi-user mode? ;-) Timm -- Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de> Biomed. NMR GmbH Tel +49 551 201-1091 FAX +49 551 201-1307 Am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Goettingen, Germany
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: netmsgserver[107]: Panic: tcp Date: 12 Feb 1999 16:45:36 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <7a1lrg$3qo$3@news.spacelab.net> References: <slrn7c736h.8th.float@interport.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit float@interport.net (void) wrote: [ ... ] >I couldn't find any references in any files in /etc to NETMSG_CONFIG or >compat_server. I don't have a /usr/mach directory, so that lead nowhere. >The netmsgserver doesn't appear to still be running. I have no man pages >for [old_]netmsgserver. Is this anything to be concerned about? Any >clues as to the genesis of this error or even the function of netmsgserver >would be greatly appreciated. It's (probably) not something to worry about...that's the old version of the Mach Network Message server, which is now being handled by the 'nmserver' daemon: NAME nmserver - Mach network server SYNOPSIS nmserver [ -c ] [ -t ] [ -p print_level ] DESCRIPTION The network server is the program responsible for forwarding Mach IPC over the network. Currently, it also implements a simple network name service. The network server should be started once and for all at boot time. It is shared by all users of the machine. If this process were not running, things like cut-copy-paste fail, the workspace becomes very unhappy, services fail. So I'd assume you do have the nmserver running fine; just hunt down whatever is trying to invoke this older process and comment it out. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: OS 4 resolver problem Date: 9 Feb 1999 23:31:00 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <79qgfk$ml4$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <Pine.NXT.4.05.9902091202260.845-100000@figbash> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John David Duncan <jdd@efn.org> wrote: > I have two NeXT turbo slabs running openstep 4.1, and both have some > strange problems with mapping between names and addresses. This becomes > apparent in applications like ssh and samba that do "paranoid" reverse > lookups. > > One machine, figbash, will randomly forget a reverse mapping, and not be > able to resolve that address back to a name until it has been rebooted. > The problem is being manifested in ssh like this: Wonky. Have you tried "lookupd -d" and the commands like hostWithInternetAddress and hostWithName? That'll let you see whether lookupd is caching the information incorrectly. I don't know what you could do to fix it, though, short of either changing the lookupd agent search order (/etc/service.switch or whatever it's called) or maybe building ssh/sshd with a libresolv.a from the BIND distribution.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: ftpd security hole Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:29:31 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <distler-1202992330240001@192.168.0.1> /gnVR"|LWyKVK{`$&t&`k{]Q^x*"ihe+^hTvWs@IEMtYI5RVzGFBPcMu`}>@#^Fm:<)M w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK? In case anyone missed it, a new class of remote root hole ftp://info.cert.org/pub/cert_advisories/CA-99-03-FTP-Buffer-Overflows has been discovered in a variety of ftp daemons, including WU-ftpd, which I had previously recommended as a replacement for the multiply-vulnerable NeXT-supplied ftpd. I've updated my security page http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/progs/index.html with information on upgrading to the latest version of "VR" WU-ftpd (wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-18-vr13) which is immune to the attack. The current version needs some patches to compile cleanly. Hopefully, the next version (due Mar 1) or maybe the one after that (Apr 1) will compile out of the box for NS. Jacques -- PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc
From: mmueller007@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: CDD3610 Driver Neede Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:53:26 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <7a475l$fvn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Does ther exist a driver for the Philips CDD3610 (recordable/rewritable) CD-write? If so, where can I get one. Any generic drivers out there? Thanks, Marcus -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Spix) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Sharing CDs over NFS? Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:43:51 +0100 Organization: Customer of NDH Netzwerkdienste Hoeger GmbH Message-ID: <19990213204351139778@port174.telelev.net> References: <1999021101114063829@port161.telelev.net> <79v9ve$or$2@news.spacelab.net> <7a0pqh$a4a28@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Feb 1999 19:43:14 GMT H.-R. Oberhage <phy070@power.uni-essen.de> wrote: > Charles W. Swiger (chuck@codefab.com) wrote: > : joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Spix) wrote: > : >I have a problem sharing CDs over NFS with NS 3.3. > : > : You can't NFS export a CD-ROM filesystem under NEXTSTEP...it doesn't work > : right. > > Although you're right in this - as far as I can tell -, you *can* NFS > export the NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP CD's from a NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP system. They > are in native NS/OS-fs, not CD-ROM-fs format, if I've got that right. I > did the exportseveral time successfully for upgrading, but only for like > types, i.e. NS from NS for NS upgrade, OS from OS for OS upgrade, although > I don't see a reason why this shouldn't work 'crossed' (NS to OS, OS to NS) > either. > > While upgrading this way, you have to watch out, that the network works > fine all the time (no interrupts) and that the 'exporting' machine shouldn't > have much/anything else to do (at least I had to); otherwise there might > be a timeout (I had it once). But iirc one could 're-enter' at the point > after the system checks, what to upgrade (the upgrade-plan) and saving > the 'old' configuration, if you opted so, don't let the system make a > 'new' upgrade plan ( or 'saving') after a non-successfull upgrade! This seems to fit to my assumption that only BSD 4.3 filesystems could be shared... Unfortunately, I tried to share ISO-9660 CDs. Joerg -- (joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de)
From: mmueller007@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:13:56 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <78las6$eq8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Message-ID: <cancel.78las6$eq8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Sender: mmueller007@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Control: cancel <78las6$eq8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Original Subject:
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ftpd security hole Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:15:14 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <distler-1302991615450001@192.168.0.1> References: <distler-1202992330240001@192.168.0.1> /gnVR"|LWyKVK{`$&t&`k{]Q^x*"ihe+^hTvWs@IEMtYI5RVzGFBPcMu`}>@#^Fm:<)M w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK? In article <distler-1202992330240001@192.168.0.1>, distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) wrote: >In case anyone missed it, a new class of remote root hole > > ftp://info.cert.org/pub/cert_advisories/CA-99-03-FTP-Buffer-Overflows > >has been discovered in a variety of ftp daemons, including WU-ftpd, which >I had previously recommended as a replacement for the multiply-vulnerable >NeXT-supplied ftpd. > >I've updated my security page > > http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/progs/index.html > >with information on upgrading to the latest version of "VR" WU-ftpd >(wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-18-vr13) which is immune to the attack. The current >version needs some patches to compile cleanly. Good News: If you wait till Monday, wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-18-vr14 will be released, which compiles cleanly, and has some other security fixes as well. Jacques -- PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc
From: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help with Sendmail error message Date: 13 Feb 1999 16:12:38 PST Organization: Caffeine Software Message-ID: <7a54dm$a49@journal.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am setting up a new mail server; I downloaded & installed sendmail 8.9.2 and am now configuring it so that it's happy. Whatever I do, I get this error message when I start it up / send out an email: Feb 13 16:02:54 myhost sendmail[746]: unable to qualify my own domain name (myhost) -- using short name I do have local configs to take care of that: Djmydomain.com Dmmydomain.com Cmmydomain.com All mail eventually arrives at the remote site, I just get this error message. The resolv.conf file does carry a correct domain name. Ideas? Thanks, - Stan -- Nature Travelogues: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~stanj/Travel NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com
From: ricsha@rainlore.demon.co.uk (Ric) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: can NeXTSTEP co-exist w/ Linux Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:26:38 GMT Message-ID: <36c62454.12241732@news.demon.co.uk> References: <7a488s$gsl$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:12:16 GMT, mmueller007@hotmail.com wrote: >I'm currently running NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Win95 on my PC and would like to add >Linux to the system. The harddrive right now is partinioned, such that ~1.4GB >are alocated for NS, ~900MB for Win95, and an unused ~100MB extended DOS >partition. Except for the boot partion, Linux will be running of a second >harddrive (both EIDE). The moment I change the extended DOS partition to a >Linux partion (this change is done using NS's fdisk routine), restarting NS >will cause it to hang ... it just gets past the "boot"-prompt. This makes me >wonder if NS and Linux can even co-exist. What causes this problem and how >can I work around it. Hmm, AFAIK NS's fdisk shouldn't even be "seeing" an extended DOS partition...? (Certainly, OS4.2's fdisk doesn't here, and IIRC fdsik is still the same vers. as in 3.3.) However, either way, there shouldn't be any prob in Linux and NS co-existing. (I run OS4.2, Solaris, BeOS, OS/2 Warp etc. all on the same sys without the slightest problem.) Just leave Linux to create its own partitions (making sure NS's fdisk partition isn't the active partition at the time) and everything should go well. HTH Ric > >Thanks, >Marcus > >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help with Sendmail error message Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <7a54dm$a49@journal.concentric.net> Message-ID: <NGpx2.195$zc1.626@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:30:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:30:21 EDT In <7a54dm$a49@journal.concentric.net> Stan Jirman wrote: > I am setting up a new mail server; I downloaded & installed sendmail 8.9.2 8.9.3 just came out :-) > and am now configuring it so that it's happy. Whatever I do, I get this error > message when I start it up / send out an email: > > Feb 13 16:02:54 myhost sendmail[746]: unable to qualify my own domain name > (myhost) -- using short name Open HostManager.app and add a FQDN address for the machine For example if the machine is called 'mailhost' then add an alias 'mailhost.caffeineSoft.com' (or whatever the domain is) Restart NetInfo and kill -1 sendmail and you should be all set. TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Spix) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Sharing CDs over NFS? Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:11:40 +0100 Organization: Customer of NDH Netzwerkdienste Hoeger GmbH Message-ID: <1999021101114063829@port161.telelev.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Feb 1999 00:11:12 GMT Hello, I have a problem sharing CDs over NFS with NS 3.3. I could mount them over NFS and also see the directories, but no data could be loaded. If I try then there is a lot of network activity, but nothing happens on the CD-ROM. (BTW, I'm using a 5 CD CD-ROM changer from Regal electronics: CDC-4X.) If I log in with a terminal on the machine with the CD-ROM it reads successfully. If I do the same on the NFS client, the transfer hangs with the network activity. No changing or access on the CD-ROM. I loaded the CD-ROM kernel driver and mounted the CDs in the rc skript before the NFS mount were made. (I think directly after checking the disks.) BTW, if I log into the machine with the CD-changer, the magazine i thrown out. I it possible to suppress this behaviour? The noauto option is ignored, I suppose (says the manpage and I even tried that). FYI, the CD-ROM changer works fine, if you use it on a client and throw in the cassette after the WorkspaceManager has started. (Well, it takes two complete cycles of changing until you can start working...) Joerg -- (joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de)
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <631918363637@digifix.com> Date: 14 Feb 1999 04:44:27 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <15546918968424@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Peanuts Archive http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/Rhapsody http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/MacOSX http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/WebObjects http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData The Peanuts-Archive is the premier site in Europe and mirrored in whole or parts all over the world. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Site http://www.apple.com/macosx/ Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Developer Site http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server/ Apple Computer's WebObjects Site http://www.apple.com/webobjects/ Mac OS X Server Developer Documentation http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosxserver/macosxserver.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is it safe to remove swapfile.front? Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:55:37 -0800 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.990211085236.23613B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> References: <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> <SCOTT.99Feb4100629@slave.doubleu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Scott Hess <scott@nospam.doubleu.com> In-Reply-To: <SCOTT.99Feb4100629@slave.doubleu.com> "Reply-To: " My machine has 48MB of RAM with the default 16MB swapfile. It seems to make sense to increase the swapfile size and 48MB seems like a good number. Do I need to go to single user and use mkfile (if so, what exactly do I do) or could I simply modify /etc/swaptab and reboot? Thanks. Rob
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Sharing CDs over NFS? Date: 11 Feb 1999 19:10:38 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Message-ID: <79v9ve$or$2@news.spacelab.net> References: <1999021101114063829@port161.telelev.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Spix) wrote: >I have a problem sharing CDs over NFS with NS 3.3. You can't NFS export a CD-ROM filesystem under NEXTSTEP...it doesn't work right. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: ricsha@rainlore.demon.co.uk (Ric) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Odd Filesystem Prob under OS 4.2 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:05:05 GMT Message-ID: <36c6ee8f.19398373@news.demon.co.uk> Running OS4.2 on Intel/all SCSI system. No problems mounting DOS (FAT16) Jaz and Zip disks, yet Mac HFS (*not* HFS+) ones just get spewed back out instantly. Also, I also have a hard disk on the system with Apple partition table and 2 Mac HFS partitions (for a Mac emu running MacOS 8.1 elsewhere), the first of which is for data sharing between OSs. Whilst there is no problem mounting and reading this, writing anything other than a few text/rtf (or other data) files of a few K fails, mostly with error msgs like "...couldn't write Filename.Extension - I/O error..." If I then select "continue", a .NeXTTrash folder is created on the HFS partition, containing the attempted copy/copies."Empty Recycler" has no effect on this, and trying to destroy it or the .NeXTTrash folder again results in an I/O error msg. The next time Mac OS is booted, this partition has become invalidated and has to be initialised again. Anybody come across similar probs? Any ideas? Ric
Message-ID: <36C15D86.E8402A0D@netcom.ca> From: Kim Friesen <kfriesen@netcom.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Openstep 4.1 install on Intel References: <36BE807A.B1AC659C@netcom.ca> <4awv2.412$0l2.527469@newshog.newsread.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 04:20:55 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:21:08 EDT Organization: Netcom Canada Hi, This worked, I changed my partitions so that I had the OPENSTEP partition at the begining and less than 2GB and the install worked. I am now trying to get my floppy drive recognized which seems like a problem as well. Any other thoughts ??? Kim
From: MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NetinfoManager on Netinfo master problem... Date: 14 Feb 1999 22:56:57 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Message-ID: <7a7kbp$m8$2@platane.wanadoo.fr> References: <1999021101114364019@port161.telelev.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de In <1999021101114364019@port161.telelev.net> Joerg Spix wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem on my netinfo master. NetinfoManager terminates after a > few seconds before any menu has been shown. I even restored the > /etc/netinfo database(s) from a floppy disk which worked before > (NIManager did start with them), but it still doesn't work. > Any hints? I experiment the same problem after i modified my configuration to set my white box as master server and incorporated a black in my small private network. Moreover when i launch NFSManager it show "UNKNOWN" as the host name ! I wondered if it's because i used "non routed" IP number, as 10.0.0.0 ? I'll try Ruediger Oberhage's recommendations ... -- Mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr : Adresse primaire / primary address Mailto:Max.Barel@wanadoo.fr : Adresse secondaire / secondary address (NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome) http://www.cuefa.inpg.fr/~max/Graal/ : Site du planeur Graal / Graal glider site http://perso.wanadoo.fr/max.barel/ : Site secondaire du planeur Graal / Graal glider secondary site
From: ian@nyro.com (I.H.Stewart) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:19:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <19990210061703.nothere@postoffice.net> Subject: Samba configs - please Organization: NYRO Technix - Makers of NYRO-SPACE & Mind. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Need some sample samba.conf that show file sharing and printing to NLP for my Win95 clients. Mine is not working and I would love something to compare against. ih
From: joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Spix) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NetinfoManager on Netinfo master problem... Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:11:43 +0100 Organization: Customer of NDH Netzwerkdienste Hoeger GmbH Message-ID: <1999021101114364019@port161.telelev.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Feb 1999 00:11:15 GMT Hi, I have a problem on my netinfo master. NetinfoManager terminates after a few seconds before any menu has been shown. I even restored the /etc/netinfo database(s) from a floppy disk which worked before (NIManager did start with them), but it still doesn't work. Any hints? Joerg -- (joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de)
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From: Ryan Scott <scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is it safe to remove swapfile.front? Date: 12 Feb 1999 16:47:42 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <7a1lve$gma$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <slrn7bjjo6.tan.tadams@kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> <SCOTT.99Feb4100629@slave.doubleu.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.990211085236.23613B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> <7a000i$s92$3@mark.ucdavis.edu> <SCOTT.99Feb11225650@slave.doubleu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <SCOTT.99Feb11225650@slave.doubleu.com> Scott Hess wrote: > In article <7a000i$s92$3@mark.ucdavis.edu>, > Ryan Scott <scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu> writes: > In <Pine.NXT.3.96.990211085236.23613B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU>, > "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: > > My machine has 48MB of RAM with the default 16MB swapfile. It > > seems to make sense to increase the swapfile size and 48MB seems > > like a good number. Do I need to go to single user and use > > mkfile (if so, what exactly do I do) or could I simply modify > > /etc/swaptab and reboot? > > Ack! Don't use mkfile on the swapfile, it could be very messy. > > Uh? Why not? Creating a swapfile is pretty much the entire reason > for mkfile's existence. > Oops. You`re right, I jumped to this conclusion without checking out mkfile for myself :-\ It is interesting that the rc files don't seem to use mkfile to create swap space. Thanks for the correction. -- ________________________________________________ Ryan P. Scott Laser and Electro-Optics Research Group UC Davis - Department of Applied Science Tel: (530)754-4358 Fax: (530)752-1652 Email: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu ________________________________________________
From: mmueller007@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: can NeXTSTEP co-exist w/ Linux Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:12:16 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <7a488s$gsl$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> I'm currently running NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Win95 on my PC and would like to add Linux to the system. The harddrive right now is partinioned, such that ~1.4GB are alocated for NS, ~900MB for Win95, and an unused ~100MB extended DOS partition. Except for the boot partion, Linux will be running of a second harddrive (both EIDE). The moment I change the extended DOS partition to a Linux partion (this change is done using NS's fdisk routine), restarting NS will cause it to hang ... it just gets past the "boot"-prompt. This makes me wonder if NS and Linux can even co-exist. What causes this problem and how can I work around it. Thanks, Marcus -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: "Peter Twarecki" <ptwareck@the-wire.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NS3.3 and Win95 Partitions?!? Message-ID: <Vipy2.11$uQ1.39846@news2.randori.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:53:57 PDT Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:53:05 -0500 I have an AMD K6 machine with a 3.2G Win95 HD (slave) and a 1.2G NS3.3 HD (master). After fiddling with it for a while, there are two questions that I'd like to ask: 1) Is there a booter program that would let me boot either OS from its own HD easily - I've got a feeling that LILO will do that, but haven't tried it yet. 2) On the first login Workspace tries to mount the Win95 HD and fails (of course), asking me to initialize the disk. How do disable the automount process for this harddisk only? Any help would be appreciated! Peter.
From: jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-Sébastien Fortier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Mail-Copies-To: jsfortier@videotron.ca Subject: AppleShare anyone ? Message-ID: <jsfortier-1602992345440001@modemcable065.93.mtimi.videotron.net> Organization: ProMac G4h@0ldlk'(O+4$f/mzQ8c7w`gJC.OC Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:45:44 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:45:46 EDT Does anyone knows how to get the appleshare preference module ? I installed a full OpenStep 4.2 and I still can't use my appleshare network with it. The module isn't in any directory nor on the CD. If you have additionnal tricks to make appleshare work, feel free to give them to me :-) A desperate Mac user going sometimes on the NeXT ------------------------- Jean-Sebastien Fortier <jsfortier@videotron.ca> Technicien en systèmes Macintosh ICQ # 6027586 PGP Availlable
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.nsc,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon,comp.sys.psion,comp.sys.psion.announce,comp.sys.psion.apps,comp.sys.psion.comm,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,comp.sys.psion.programmer Subject: cmsg cancel <13290493-1702990125000001@ccas11-sli46.t-net.net.ve> Control: cancel <13290493-1702990125000001@ccas11-sli46.t-net.net.ve> Date: 17 Feb 1999 05:23:47 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.13290493-1702990125000001@ccas11-sli46.t-net.net.ve> Sender: 13290493@geocities.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Marcel Volkerts <volkerts@kvi.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NS3.3 and Win95 Partitions?!? Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:34:18 +0000 Organization: KVI Message-ID: <36CAB74A.992E749B@kvi.nl> References: <Vipy2.11$uQ1.39846@news2.randori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------84E77FC78C092D8A4EF60964" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------84E77FC78C092D8A4EF60964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Twarecki wrote: > I have an AMD K6 machine with a 3.2G Win95 HD (slave) and a 1.2G NS3.3 HD > (master). After fiddling with it for a while, there are two questions that > I'd like to ask: > > 1) Is there a booter program that would let me boot either OS from its own > HD easily - I've got a feeling that LILO will do that, but haven't tried it > yet. > Yes, try the OS/2 bootloader (included in Partition Magic) > > 2) On the first login Workspace tries to mount the Win95 HD and fails (of > course), asking me to initialize the disk. How do disable the automount > process for this harddisk only? > What's the filesystem on your w95 partition? Marcel --------------84E77FC78C092D8A4EF60964 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="volkerts.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Marcel Volkerts Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="volkerts.vcf" begin:vcard n:Volkerts;Marcel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:KVI;Experimental Nuclear Physics adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:volkerts@kvi.nl note;quoted-printable:Phone +31 50 3632054=0D=0AFax +31 50 3634003 x-mozilla-cpt:;-18016 fn:Marcel Volkerts end:vcard --------------84E77FC78C092D8A4EF60964--
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NS3.3 and Win95 Partitions?!? Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <Vipy2.11$uQ1.39846@news2.randori.com> Message-ID: <pByy2.1274$zc1.9995@monger.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:28:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 07:28:05 EDT In <Vipy2.11$uQ1.39846@news2.randori.com> "Peter Twarecki" wrote: > I have an AMD K6 machine with a 3.2G Win95 HD (slave) and a 1.2G NS3.3 HD > (master). After fiddling with it for a while, there are two questions that > I'd like to ask: > > 1) Is there a booter program that would let me boot either OS from its own > HD easily - I've got a feeling that LILO will do that, but haven't tried it > yet. NeXT's booter program can do this (I'm doing it right now) 1487_Booting_From_An_Alternative_Hard_Disk_Drive http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1487.htmld/1487.html > 2) On the first login Workspace tries to mount the Win95 HD and fails (of > course), asking me to initialize the disk. How do disable the automount > process for this harddisk only? add to /etc/fstab: /dev/rsd4h /drives/Seagate ignore rw,noquota 1 2 change 'rsd4h' to whatever is right for your HD, which is different for IDE than SCSI TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: tawollen@warcraft.neko.mi.org (Troy Wollenslegel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Nextstation problems. Date: 17 Feb 1999 16:08:56 GMT Organization: MediaOne Express -=- MidWest Region Message-ID: <7aepio$pk8$1@denws02.mw.mediaone.net> I just got a Nextstation Turbo I have a couple problems with it. 1> What type of CD rom do you need to use, will a standard PC cdrom (scsi of cou rse) work? or do you need one of the Sun type cd-roms with the different block size? 2> If I do get media, how to I boot off the CD-ROM to install the OS? 3>The box has a HD with OS (3.x I think). When I boot up the system it comes up with the screen checking the system, then checking the disk. A window pops up on the screen and it starts doing a bootup. It then drops to a # root shell (in the window), Everything looks ok as far as the OS goes. I do a ^D to log out of that session and it continues to boot up, when it get to "starting multiuser mode" it will just hang. I can move the mouse and click once, then never get the mouse back. Any ideas on esp #3? Thanks Troy info@neko.mi.org -- Troy Wollenslegel - troy@intranet.org - http://neko.mi.org/~tawollen "Ever wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup?" --John Mendoza
From: x95tobos@wmich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXT cube revival (OS install) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:21:09 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <7aetpr$adf$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Hi ! I just "enherited" a NeXT Cube that was just picking up dust in my college dept. here at WMU; seems it had a problem with the hard drive (a "respectable" 100 MB) and it had the OS on that crashed drive. Can anyone give me a hint what I need to do to re-install the OS (what do I need to ask for, when I go for my quest thru the department administration), and how I do that ? Can I just install a Mk Linux on the machine instead (seems that this Mach microkernel is still alive in the ROMBIOS) ? What would be the steps to take in order to discover where I have the floppy, and how to see it and boot from it ? Thanks much Larry Tobos, grad student, WMU -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: Jan Richling <richling@informatik.hu-berlin.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Partition > 2 GB on 3.3 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:47:24 +0100 Organization: Technische Universitaet Berlin, Deutschland Message-ID: <cc6fa7.kl.ln@vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Feb 1999 19:50:53 GMT Hi, is there ANY method to format und use partitions >2 GB on NeXTSTEP 3.3? It is NOT the boot-device - maybe there could be a solution with another type of filesystem... does anybody know? TIA, Jan ------------------------------------------------------------------ / Jan Richling - http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~richling / / PhD Student at Computer Architecture and Communication Group - / / Department of Computer Science - Humboldt University Berlin /
From: "Ray" <rchilds@bigfoot.com_nospam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NetInfo/loginwindow Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:42:28 -0500 Message-ID: <36cb7173@news-out1.newsnerds.com> Hello, I'm having a couple problems with my NeXTStep 3.2 Cube that hopefully someone here can help me with. First the NetInfo problem (I'm fairly new to NetInfo, but am comfortable with the concept)... I was dinking around with the NetInfo database and apparently flipped a bit I wasn't supposed to and blew out the database. No biggie. I just had to start fresh by copying in the /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo database and checking the /etc/hostconfg file to make sure it contains the appropriate IP address and hostname. No problem. I reboot and things seem to come up fine. Now, here's the part I don't really understand. When I go into NetInfoManager and click the 'create new root domain' selection, I get the message 'can't find host next' (next, of course, being the hostname of the machine). "Okay, fine," I say to myself, "I'll just go in and create an alias in NetInfo for localhost which points to next." Make the change. Reboot. NetInfo database fails to come up. "Damn," I mumble under my breath, "okay, fine." Re-install template database and reboot. System comes back up. Go back into NetInfo and add a new machine named 'next' with the appropriate ip address. Change all the appropriate 'serves' references. Reboot. Netinfo database fails to load, again. I try to start nibindd manually. It just hangs for a minute, then dies. "Damn, Damn," I again mumble. I attempt to change my hostname to local, since it has a reference back to inself. Reboot. NetInfo comes up. Enter NetInfoManager, click 'create new root domain.' New error message, "Your host name appears to be 'localhost'. Apparently you haven't configured you network, blah.. blah.. blah..." What's the deal here? Why can't I create a reference to my machines host name anywhere? I can't alias localhost, and I can't add a new machine entry. Ideas? Next, and possibly related(?), problem.. When I attempt to logout the system seems to hang. Loginwindow never comes up. After halting the machine, booting into single user mode, and looking over the logs, I discover the problem. The system appears to be attempting to load sound drivers that are already loaded, or something, over and over... The logs show something along these lines: mach_kernel: audio service already registered. _NXAudioOut already registered _NXAudioIn already registerd. (repeat... repeat... repeat) Any ideas here? I'm not sure if these are known 3.2 bugs or not. I have been unable to find any help in NeXTAnswers. I also know that my 3.3 Workstation doesn't suffer from the same problems, although I haven't really played with it's NetInfo bases too much.. Any help would be appreated. Thanks, Ray (rchilds@bigfoot.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:47:32 -0500 From: <gbh@middlemarch.net> Subject: Network configuration app Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.9902172343280.14070-100000@mail.his.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Organization: Heller Information Services I'm trying to find a network configuration app that someone wrote but I forgot the name of it. The app lets a stand-alone machine use netinfo instead of having to create a resolv.conf file. What's the name of the app and where can I find it? Greg
From: heller@altoetting-online.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NetBoot on Intel: possible?? Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:20:22 GMT Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller Sender: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller) Distribution: world Message-ID: <F7C9py.11s@heller.altoetting-online.de> Hello, I would like to netboot an intel computer I have around (OS4.2). I followed the instructions in chapter13, but they only seem to hold for original black NeXT hardware. Is there a way to netboot an intel machine? Perhaps with a special floppy? I think it should be possible, just HOW? Thanks for any responses! Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail accepted________________ Phone: +49-8671-881665 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" hheller@gmx.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 FAX: +49-8671-881665 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Muehldorfer Str. 72, 84503 Altoetting, GERMANY
From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Partition > 2 GB on 3.3 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Date: 18 Feb 1999 10:30:37 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Message-ID: <7agq4d$a1o5@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <cc6fa7.kl.ln@vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de> Jan Richling (richling@informatik.hu-berlin.de) wrote: : Hi, Hello! : : is there ANY method to format und use partitions >2 GB on NeXTSTEP 3.3? There is, but I'm not sure you like the answer: To my knowledge it is not possible to make a DOS-/PC-fdisk partition larger than 2GB, (well maybe 4GB, but I'm not sure for NS 3.3(!)), but you can have an fdisk-structureless disk (used only by NS) and have up to 6 UNIX-/BSD-partitions on it. Each of these can be at least 2 GB large (see the 'disk'-command and (/etc/)'disktab'-entries); some say they successfully use even larger BSD-partitions (up to 4GB or even more than that) - in good conscience I myself can only talk about (up to) 2GB partitions. : : It is NOT the boot-device - maybe there could be a solution with another : type of filesystem... does anybody know? Yes, the above solution, but its not only the filesystem, it's the 'disk- system' so to speak of, that shouldn't be fdisk-formatted. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NetBoot on Intel: possible?? Date: 18 Feb 1999 10:45:41 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <7agr0l$a1o6@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <F7C9py.11s@heller.altoetting-online.de> heller@altoetting-online.de wrote: : Hello, Hello! : : I would like to netboot an intel computer I have around (OS4.2). I : followed the instructions in chapter13, but they only seem to hold for : original : black NeXT hardware. Is there a way to netboot an intel : machine? Perhaps with a special floppy? I think it should be possible, : just HOW? Can be done (if some boundary conditions (network-card-model/type) are met)! Short version: (Boot) Floppy has to be made with 'correct' driver selection. [Any other medium to boot this configuration from (Zip/Jaz/CD-R etc) should work, too. :-)] As you have to install the machine to boot from anyway, I hope to remember it right, that the application responsible for that (/NextAdmin/NetInstallHelper) offers you a choice of making such a diskette for you, asking about a (network-card) driver selection beforehand. Then you have to enter the ethernet-address for the machine to be booted, eventually it's name and ip-address (or a range) to use, and that should be it. I never used/did this myself until now, but have seen another person in our university use it - neighbour-workgroup, not ours, also using OS 4.2, Intel machines only! So it can be done and it wasn't too complicated. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: Marcel Volkerts <volkerts@kvi.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Non-netinfo network problem Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:22:22 +0000 Organization: KVI Message-ID: <36CC140E.E5FEE366@kvi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1F33D13C2EA37841F741CEBA" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1F33D13C2EA37841F741CEBA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I installed OS 4.1 last night on my recently aquired Cube. The Cube is supposed to be the only NeXt machine in a small home-lan which consists of 3 Winnt machines and the Cube. Since it is the only NeXT machine i followed the instructions for setting it up as a non-netinfo networked computer, carefully following the instructions given in chapter 10 of the sysadmin bookshelf. Here I encouter several problems that are new to me: 1. During reboot it says something liike: autonfsmount: can get my (nemesis) address. 2. I can ping every other machine on the lan and vice versa so cabling and routing is OK. But when I try to tracroute it says: icmp: unknow service and for ftp: ftp/tcp : unknown service and the same for telnet: telnet/tcp: unknwn service Can anybody please help me clarify this? Many thanks, Marcel --------------1F33D13C2EA37841F741CEBA Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="volkerts.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Marcel Volkerts Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="volkerts.vcf" begin:vcard n:Volkerts;Marcel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:KVI;Experimental Nuclear Physics adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:volkerts@kvi.nl note;quoted-printable:Phone +31 50 3632054=0D=0AFax +31 50 3634003 x-mozilla-cpt:;-18016 fn:Marcel Volkerts end:vcard --------------1F33D13C2EA37841F741CEBA--
From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Non-netinfo network problem Date: 18 Feb 1999 12:32:39 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Message-ID: <7ah197$7e87@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <36CC140E.E5FEE366@kvi.nl> Marcel Volkerts (volkerts@kvi.nl) wrote: : Hi, Hello! : [...] Here I encouter several problems that are new to me: : : 1. During reboot it says something liike: autonfsmount: can get my : (nemesis) address. : : 2. I can ping every other machine on the lan and vice versa so cabling : and routing is OK. But when I try to tracroute it says: : : icmp: unknow service : : and for ftp: : : ftp/tcp : unknown service : : and the same for telnet: : : telnet/tcp: unknwn service : : Can anybody please help me clarify this? To explain the symptoms is easy, to find the cause ... Your machine simply doesn't get information - in the two cases you list above it are machine names and services, which, on conventional systems come from the files '/etc/hosts' and '/etc/services'; however these files are *not* used by NS/OS (at least not by default and it's not quite so simple to activate them under OS (some entries for lookupd in netinfo required saying something about FFAgent(?)). Well, normally, even in a non-netinfo-environment netinfo nevertheless runs on the machine with a 'local'-domain (just for that machine), providing all this information by default - you can (e.g.) see entries 'machines' and 'services' from the NetinfoManager if you open the domain (local or '.' or '/' if you don't have any other domain). That is, except for the machine-name, that you have to enter yourself; either manually or automatically by programs as SimpleNetworkStarter or HostManager. From your writing above, it seems that something must have gone wrong with the 'local' setup. You can either try to correct it, or - if nothing else helps - you can copy over 'preset(/empty)' definitions for '/etc/hostconfig' and the directory '/etc/netinfo' from the '/usr/template/client/etc' directory and start all over again (carefull: This wipes out 'users' and their passwords, too - though luckily not their home-directory or information in it -, and machine configuration settings like printers, etc). Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Network configuration app Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.9902172343280.14070-100000@mail.his.com> Message-ID: <srXy2.205$vF1.1461@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:44:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:44:08 EDT In <Pine.BSI.4.05L.9902172343280.14070-100000@mail.his.com> gbh@middlemarch.net wrote: > I'm trying to find a network configuration app > that someone wrote but I forgot the name of it. > The app lets a stand-alone machine use netinfo > instead of having to create a resolv.conf file. > What's the name of the app and where can I find it? OmniDNSHelper but it is only for OpenStep 4.2 http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniDNSHelper/ TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Nextstation problems. Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <7aepio$pk8$1@denws02.mw.mediaone.net> Message-ID: <szXy2.209$vF1.1461@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:52:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:52:40 EDT In <7aepio$pk8$1@denws02.mw.mediaone.net> Troy Wollenslegel wrote: > 1> What type of CD rom do you need to use, will a standard PC cdrom > (scsi of cou rse) work? or do you need one of the Sun type cd-roms with the different > block size? No, just about any SCSI 1 or 2 CD-ROM should work (note the words "just about" and "should") > 2> If I do get media, how to I boot off the CD-ROM to install the OS? http://www.peak.org/~luomat/articles/FAQs/boot-from-CD.html > 3>The box has a HD with OS (3.x I think). When I boot up the system it > comes up with the screen checking the system, then checking the disk. A > window pops up on the screen and it starts doing a bootup. It then drops to > a # root shell (in the window), Everything looks ok as far as the OS goes. > I do a ^D to log out of that session and it continues to boot up, when it > get to "starting multiuser mode" it will just hang. I can move the mouse > and click once, then never get the mouse back. Hrm. That's peculiar. OK, you'll need to get to the ROM monitor http://www.peak.org/~luomat/articles/FAQs/ROM-monitor.html and then tell it you want to boot verbosely specifically: when in the ROM monitor at this prompt: NeXT> type 'p' and hit enter leave everything the way it is (boot command needs to be 'sd') except answer 'yes' to "Boot verbosely?" then when you get back to this prompt: NeXT> type 'bsd' and hit enter See if it gives you any other clues as to what might be wrong. If you haven't gotten anything configured the way you want it yet, I would go for a complete reinstallation (meaning you'll need a CD). Trying to debug a machine when you know nothing about its history is difficult at best. TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.)
From: hutchens@cs.millersv.edu (David H. Hutchens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Trouble building a new file system with Adaptec 2940 controller Date: 18 Feb 1999 18:15:23 GMT Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania Message-ID: <7ahlbr$e75$1@jake.esu.edu> Keywords: Adaptec 2940 disk mkfs When I attempt to run the 'disk' initialization program on a fixed hard disk with the Adaptec 2940 controller, I get the following messages: mills:31# disk -i /dev/rsd2a disk name: SEAGATE ST31200N SUN1.0 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd2a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd2a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd2a 1030394 43 9 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: 187 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd2a: 1030394 sectors in 2663 cylinders of 9 tracks, 43 sectors 1055.1Mb in 167 cyl groups (16 c/g, 6.34Mb/g, 1472 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at:write error: 32 wtfs: Invalid argument /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd2a failed (status 1) The /usr/adm/messages file contains: Feb 18 13:04:36 mills mach: a2940_0: Max DMA Count Exceeded (max = 131072, request = 188416) Feb 18 13:04:36 mills mach: sd2: Command Reject : FATAL ERROR Feb 18 13:04:36 mills mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Write block:384 blockCount:368 I have tried changing synchronization modes in the driver with no effect. I have tried both version 4.00 and version 4.02 of the Adaptec 2940 driver. I have built a file system on this disk with a DPT controller in the past while running Openstep 4.2. I was able to read and use the disk using the Adaptec controller. I just can't build a new file system on it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. - David Hutchens hutchens@cs.millersv.edu
From: joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Spix) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NetinfoManager on Netinfo master problem... Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:06:41 +0100 Organization: Customer of NDH Netzwerkdienste Hoeger GmbH Message-ID: <1999021820064141808@port249.telelev.net> References: <1999021101114364019@port161.telelev.net> <7a7kbp$m8$2@platane.wanadoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Feb 1999 19:05:50 GMT Max Barel <MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr> wrote: > In <1999021101114364019@port161.telelev.net> Joerg Spix wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a problem on my netinfo master. NetinfoManager terminates after a > > few seconds before any menu has been shown. I even restored the > > /etc/netinfo database(s) from a floppy disk which worked before > > (NIManager did start with them), but it still doesn't work. > > Any hints? > > I experiment the same problem after i modified my configuration to set my > white box as master server and incorporated a black in my small private > network. > > Moreover when i launch NFSManager it show "UNKNOWN" as the host name ! > I wondered if it's because i used "non routed" IP number, as 10.0.0.0 ? > I'll try Ruediger Oberhage's recommendations ... I solved my problem (I thought I posted it before, but I can't see it here). It was a conflict between CAPer and NetInfoManager as mentioned in the documentation. One can either stop CAPer and unload the bpf or add a dummy entry in netinfo with Hostmanager for IP 0.0.0.0. In the later case NetInfoManager starts with local@0.0.0.0 (or something similar) but it is the correct local netinfo. I confirmed this by changing the default network in local@0.0.0.0 and it was shown in the local database when opened by "Open..." and selecting the machine in the domain dialog box. Joerg -- (joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de)
From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Non-netinfo network problem Date: 18 Feb 1999 17:28:38 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Message-ID: <7ahik6$a1o9@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <36CC140E.E5FEE366@kvi.nl> <7ah197$7e87@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> <36CC3189.30B59734@kvi.nl> Marcel Volkerts (volkerts@kvi.nl) wrote: : [...] : Hi, : : Thanks for responding! A few other weird things I noticed: : when using Hostmanager to set the local properties for a non-netinfo network : the /etc/hosts file is not updated., /etc/hostconfig is ok. : I would expect the flat files to be consistent with any : netinfo info, if not, why leave them there? No automatic updating!!! :-(. On the other hand the flat files can be made to be accepted as an alternative(!) source, too - with possible disjoint info (see lookupd, order(s) and FFAgent). : : Also, when using SNS to start a netinfo network something strange happens. : I configure the machine using SNS according to the online documentation. SNS : : does not complain at all but when I reboot it complains about not being : able to : find the configuration server (which it is itself!) and asks for a Ctrl-C : to start up : without network. If i then startup SNS again, i already has the correct : hostname : there but the wrong, deafult 192.142.bla.bla ip-address. If i than : reconfigure it and : press the configure button, i get a fatal error, some complaint about a : duplicate : name-tag and the machine reboots. I can't remember having these kind of : problems before, when using intel. But that cannot have anything to do with : it i guess? This all sounds to me as if youd didn't(!) configure the machine as a (netinfo-)standalone machine in SNS, but left the 'shared services' or how it's called selection! Like looking for a netinfo-domain master (other than for 'local') in vain! And yes, SNS (in a certain sense) can't be used repeatedly - only once, or you have to know what to clean up afterwards. But basically SNS just manipulates /etc/hostconfig (which you may also edit manually) and some netinfo-entries (also possible with Netinfo- Manager, but more cumbersome and you have to know what the exact keys/properties and values are or should be). : [...] : Correct, but what? I followed the procedure excatcly, did it three times : over and the same result all the time. Strange - no one's that stupid to make the same error trice :-). : [...] : The thing that worries me is that i can do it again but i'm pretty sure it : will give : me the same result. It did the last three times....so i prefer the 'repair' : option. : Any tips there? Well, normally everything can be 'rolled back' manually. To me, your problem sounds as if there still is/should be a higher netinfo-domain like 'network' (default naming). So you have to get rid of this, but removing/deleting it from the NetinfoManager, when asked about what domain to 'handle/open'. Then you have to find and edit all the 'serves' and 'master' properties and eliminate any entry that doesn't point to localhost or the 'local'-netinfo-domain. Finally inspect the other ones, correct the 'machines' entries to reflect you machine name(s) and IP-Number - and make sure that the 'normal' ones like 'services' etc. are there and at least seem to have the correct info, which they do, when they are freshly copied over from the 'template'- directory. Then adjust entries in '/etc/hostconfig' to reflect name, IP, netmask and eventually broadcast correctly and set NETMASTER to -NO-. You can have HostManager do a lot of that work for you, once you only have a single domain or if you choose 'local configuration(?)'. That should at least let your machine start up normally. More than this requires deeper diagnosis, which requires more information, sorry :-). Greetings, Ruediger -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Spix) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: AppleShare anyone ? Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:57:35 +0100 Organization: Customer of NDH Netzwerkdienste Hoeger GmbH Message-ID: <19990218225735658519@port249.telelev.net> References: <jsfortier-1602992345440001@modemcable065.93.mtimi.videotron.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Feb 1999 21:56:43 GMT Jean-Sébastien Fortier <jsfortier@videotron.ca> wrote: > Does anyone knows how to get the appleshare preference module ? > > I installed a full OpenStep 4.2 and I still can't use my appleshare > network with it. The module isn't in any directory nor on the CD. > > If you have additionnal tricks to make appleshare work, feel free to give > them to me :-) > > A desperate Mac user going sometimes on the NeXT > ------------------------- > Jean-Sebastien Fortier <jsfortier@videotron.ca> > Technicien en systèmes Macintosh > ICQ # 6027586 > PGP Availlable As I was told the Appleshare Preferences didn't work reliable and so were dropped during the 3.x releases of NeXTStep. Get CAPer V.8 from the peanuts ftp-server or http://www.tis.net/~frank/ instead. Read the documentation of CAPer if you have problems (I lost three days because I did not read it!). It's not complicated, but you should know potential problems... Joerg -- (joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de)
From: joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Spix) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NetInfo/loginwindow Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:57:37 +0100 Organization: Customer of NDH Netzwerkdienste Hoeger GmbH Message-ID: <19990218225737658619@port249.telelev.net> References: <36cb7173@news-out1.newsnerds.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Feb 1999 21:56:45 GMT Ray <rchilds@bigfoot.com_nospam> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having a couple problems with my NeXTStep 3.2 Cube that hopefully > someone here can help me with. > First the NetInfo problem (I'm fairly new to NetInfo, but am comfortable > with the concept)... I was dinking around with the NetInfo database and > apparently flipped a bit I wasn't supposed to and blew out the database. No > biggie. I just had to start fresh by copying in the > /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo database and checking the /etc/hostconfg > file to make sure it contains the appropriate IP address and hostname. No > problem. I reboot and things seem to come up fine. Now you have the "factory default" for netinfo AND network data. > Now, here's the part I don't really understand. When I go into > NetInfoManager and click the 'create new root domain' selection, I get the > message 'can't find host next' (next, of course, being the hostname of the > machine). "Okay, fine," I say to myself, "I'll just go in and create an > alias in NetInfo for localhost which points to next." Make the change. > Reboot. NetInfo database fails to come up. Not a good idea... > "Damn," I mumble under my breath, "okay, fine." Re-install template > database and reboot. System comes back up. Go back into NetInfo and add a > new machine named 'next' with the appropriate ip address. Change all the > appropriate 'serves' references. Reboot. Netinfo database fails to load, > again. I try to start nibindd manually. It just hangs for a minute, then > dies. > "Damn, Damn," I again mumble. I attempt to change my hostname to local, > since it has a reference back to inself. Reboot. NetInfo comes up. Enter > NetInfoManager, click 'create new root domain.' New error message, "Your > host name appears to be 'localhost'. Apparently you haven't configured you > network, blah.. blah.. blah..." > > What's the deal here? Why can't I create a reference to my machines > host name anywhere? I can't alias localhost, and I can't add a new machine > entry. Ideas? Read the Sysadmin online handbook and do EXACTLY what is written there. If something fails, replace /etc/hostconfig and /etc/netinfo with the templates and try it again. Do not skip replacing these files. Use SimpleNetworkStarter to define your machine IP an name. Either make it a standalone machine (less problems I assume) or a netinfo master (more potential problems). Make backups of netinfo as often as possible... (at least before you want to change something). Do it!!! > Next, and possibly related(?), problem.. When I attempt to logout the > system seems to hang. Loginwindow never comes up. After halting the > machine, booting into single user mode, and looking over the logs, I > discover the problem. The system appears to be attempting to load sound > drivers that are already loaded, or something, over and over... The logs > show something along these lines: > > mach_kernel: audio service already registered. > _NXAudioOut already registered > _NXAudioIn already registerd. > > (repeat... repeat... repeat) > > > Any ideas here? No. I use black hardware and NS 3.3 Joerg -- (joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de)
From: frank@wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: AppleShare anyone ? Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:12:04 +0100 Organization: FSRL Message-ID: <MPG.1137abbfc5ad8aa1989680@news.seicom.de> References: <jsfortier-1602992345440001@modemcable065.93.mtimi.videotron.net> <19990218225735658519@port249.telelev.net> In article <19990218225735658519@port249.telelev.net>, joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de says... > Jean-Sébastien Fortier <jsfortier@videotron.ca> wrote: > > > Does anyone knows how to get the appleshare preference module ? > > > As I was told the Appleshare Preferences didn't work reliable and so > were dropped during the 3.x releases of NeXTStep. Get CAPer V.8 from the > peanuts ftp-server or http://www.tis.net/~frank/ instead. > Read the documentation of CAPer if you have problems (I lost three days > because I did not read it!). It's not complicated, but you should know > potential problems... CAPer is available on http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html :-) Better get the V10 release, as it addresses some potential problems and runs Appleshare TCP/IP. - Frank
From: gabrieli@caravella.nlm.nih.gov (Andrei Gabrielian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Please help: system is not loading Date: 19 Feb 1999 18:44:16 GMT Organization: National Library of Medicine Message-ID: <7akbe0$an9$1@lhc.nlm.nih.gov> NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Feb 1999 18:44:16 GMT Summary: my system is now loading Keywords: OpenStep, networking,OS loading Hello everyone, I tried to change the network configuration on my NeXT workstation and by accident changed something wrong. As a result, the system now does not work. After the message: "Starting RPC and network services: portmap netinfo" it freezes, apparently trying to work out the netinfo. I am fairly new to NeXT computers (as well as to any Unix system management), So I'd really appreciate some hints in returning my computer to life. Thanks, Andrei gabrieli@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
From: "Peter Twarecki" <ptwareck@the-wire.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <Vipy2.11$uQ1.39846@news2.randori.com> Subject: Re: NS3.3 and Win95 Partitions?!? Message-ID: <_bmz2.1454$4h7.106329@news2.randori.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:09:55 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:10:50 PDT Many thanks to everyone for the overwhelming response. The machine now boots happily into NS installed on the slave HD via a boot floppy. Peter.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:14:47 -0500 From: <gbh@middlemarch.net> Subject: Trouble reaching router Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.9902191751560.10306-100000@mail.his.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Organization: Heller Information Services I just installed and configured OS 4.2 on an Intel machine but can't reach the router. Entering 'netstat -rn' gives; Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 4 261 lo0 default 192.168.0.1 UG 0 0 en0 192.168 192.168.0.2 U 7 1096 en0 The machine's address is 192.168.0.2 and the router's address is 192.168.0.1. I followed the steps listed in the article on LAN and Cablemodem set at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/articles/cablemodems/ except that I did not wipe NetInfo clean since it was a new install, and I used OmniDNShelper instead of creating a resolv.conf file. I enclosed the article below for easy reference. I'm not sure what to try changing to get it to work. Any ideas? Greg Cable Modems under NeXTStep Last Updated: 21 Feb 1998 FORMATTING: This will look a lot better if your window is wide enough that the row of '---' below fits on one line: If there is a frame along the leftside of the window, click here to open this page in its own window. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These instructions were originally designed for cable modem users. However, they are the same for anyone using an Ethernet-based connection with a static IP to connect to a LAN or the Internet. These instructions can be downloaded (37.1 KB) in .tar.gz format here (remember to hold down the command-key before clicking when downloading with OmniWeb to preserve the .tar.gz format) Note: despite the name, you do not want to use SimpleNetworkStarter.app for this Basic Assumptions: Assuming you have a static IP (dynamic IPs via DHCP can be done, but I do not know how. If you know how and would like to tell me, please email me at luomat@peak.org) Assuming your IP is 192.42.172.2 for the purposes of examples Assuming your hostname is 'mynext' and your domain is 'cable.modem.com' The first step is to wipe all your NetInfo information... This will delete all user information (but not the actual accounts). rm -rf /etc/netinfo /etc/hostconfig cd /usr/template/client/etc cp -rp netinfo /etc cp hostconfig /etc (reboot) Note: I have an experimental script to lead you through that process which you can download here REBOOT PROCESS When you reboot you will get a message like: No response from parent NetInfo domain or Can't find parent NetInfo domain That is OK, just hit 'c' or 'control c' (it will tell you) to continue. You will be brought back to the screen which asks you to pick a keyboard and language. Do so. You may be automatically logged into the 'me' account. If so, set a password for the 'me' account (using Preferences.app) and then logout Next, Login as 'root' (no password). Set a password for the root account. Launch /NextAdmin/HostManager.app Use the LOCAL menu item seen here NOTE: The values show are NOT the ones you should use. Set them to what your Service Provider tells you This should give you a general idea of what it should look like. 1) What is called a router here (192.42.172.254) may be called a gateway by your ISP. The IP 192.42.172.254 is just an EXAMPLE and has no basis in reality or likelihood. 2) The Netmask is usually 255.255.255.0 but may not be for you. 3) Assuming your IP is '192.42.172.2' your Broadcast Address would probably be 192.42.172.255' (that is, the same numbers as your IP except for the last number, which changes from .2 to .255). However you should check with your ISP. Note: When you press SET in HostManager.app, it will want you to reboot. Select 'skip' for now. We will reboot manually in a few moments. Next we should take care of /etc/resolv.conf This file does not exist by default, but you may have one if you were using PPP. Please note the spelling of the filename very carefully. Start /NextApps/Edit.app and open a new window. (Note: if the new window is titled UNTITLED.rtf press command-key shift R to change it to simple UNTITLED) The file usually only needs a few lines. domain cable.modem.com nameserver 123.456.789.123 nameserver 123.456.789.124 nameserver 123.456.789.125 Your Internet Service Provider should give you the numbers (IP addresses, not hostnames) to use. Usually there are 2 or 3 machines which serve as nameserver machines. see man 5 resolver for more information on the /etc/resolv.conf file Finally, you should make a Fully Qualified Domain Name entry into NetInfo. Launch /NextAdmin/NetInfoManager.app Note: your titlebar will not read local @ luomat -- /luomat and you will not have entries for 'luomat' and 'peak.org'. What is important are the 'localhost' and 'broadcasthost' hosts Using the mouse, select / then /machines then /localhost as indicated above Using the menu for NetinfoManager.app, select 'Edit' and then 'Duplicate' You should then have an entry /machines/copy_of_localhost Double-click on the 'copy_on_localhost' item to open its own window. There will be two columns, one labelled Key and one labelled Value. DO NOT CHANGE THE ITEMS UNDER KEY!!! Only change the items under VALUE Select name under Key and then copy_of_localhost Change 'copy_of_localhost' to 'mynext' and HIT RETURN. If you do not hit return the value WILL NOT CHANGE. I have made that mistake plenty of times. Then goto the Menu item and then You should see a new entry under Value called new_value. Select it and rename it 'mynext.cable.modem.com' and HIT RETURN. Select ip_address under Key and then select 127.0.0.1 and change it to your IP address (ie '192.42.172.2' in the example we have been using). Next under Key, select 'serves' and then goto Edit (same as above) but instead of Duplicate, select to delete the 'serves' entry entirely. Finally, let's save the changes we've made. Goto the menu item and choose 'Save'. Change from the Browser view to the Table view in the window we have been working in. It should look like this after you have saved everything: Note: your window show / instead of /luomat ... that's OK AT LAST! Everything should be ready to reboot now.
From: pokey069@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Please help: system is not loading Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:17:52 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <7akreu$gi7$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <7akbe0$an9$1@lhc.nlm.nih.gov> Let it hang for a minute or 2, then hit CONTROL-C. It should bypass whatever the problem is. In article <7akbe0$an9$1@lhc.nlm.nih.gov>, gabrieli@caravella.nlm.nih.gov (Andrei Gabrielian) wrote: > Hello everyone, > I tried to change the network configuration on my NeXT workstation and > by accident changed something wrong. As a result, the system now > does not work. > After the message: "Starting RPC and network services: > portmap netinfo" > it freezes, apparently trying to work out the netinfo. > I am fairly new to NeXT computers (as well as to any Unix system management), > So I'd really appreciate some hints in returning my computer to life. > Thanks, > > Andrei > gabrieli@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov > > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: Jan Richling <richling@informatik.hu-berlin.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Partition > 2 GB on 3.3 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:51:30 +0100 Organization: Technische Universitaet Berlin, Deutschland Message-ID: <2cfka7.5m.ln@vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de> References: <cc6fa7.kl.ln@vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de> <7agq4d$a1o5@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Feb 1999 20:09:42 GMT In comp.sys.next.software H.-R. Oberhage <phy070@power.uni-essen.de> wrote: > Jan Richling (richling@informatik.hu-berlin.de) wrote: > : Hi, > : is there ANY method to format und use partitions >2 GB on NeXTSTEP 3.3? > There is, but I'm not sure you like the answer: To my knowledge it is not > possible to make a DOS-/PC-fdisk partition larger than 2GB, (well maybe > 4GB, but I'm not sure for NS 3.3(!)), but you can have an fdisk-structureless > disk (used only by NS) and have up to 6 UNIX-/BSD-partitions on it. Each > of these can be at least 2 GB large (see the 'disk'-command and > (/etc/)'disktab'-entries); some say they successfully use even larger > BSD-partitions (up to 4GB or even more than that) - in good conscience > I myself can only talk about (up to) 2GB partitions. Hmmm... NS-only is okay - the machines are HP715/33 and HP715/50 running only NS 3.3 (HPPA-architecture) But: The partitions are limited to 2 GB - using a 4 GB disk is possible. I'm looking for ways to break that limit. Maybe something like a ext2-driver for ns ..... Jan ------------------------------------------------------------------ / Jan Richling - http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~richling / / PhD Student at Computer Architecture and Communication Group - / / Department of Computer Science - Humboldt University Berlin /
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Trouble reaching router Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.9902191751560.10306-100000@mail.his.com> Message-ID: <Feqz2.188$MT1.752@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 03:46:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:46:45 EDT In <Pine.BSI.4.05L.9902191751560.10306-100000@mail.his.com> gbh@middlemarch.net wrote: > I followed the steps listed in the article on LAN and Cablemodem > set at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/articles/cablemodems/ > except that I did not wipe NetInfo clean since it was a new > install, and I used OmniDNShelper instead of creating a resolv.conf > file. I enclosed the article below for easy reference. I'm not sure > what to try changing to get it to work. Any ideas? Well, the obvious thing to suggest is make a /etc/resolv.conf and reboot and see if that helps TjL -- (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) Nothing witty to say today.
From: NO_SPAMnpirzkal@hq.eso.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Boot Monitor gone after upgrading to 4.2 Date: 19 Feb 1999 20:22:14 GMT Organization: European Southern Observatory Message-ID: <7akh5m$go7$1@snatch.hq.eso.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Feb 1999 20:22:14 GMT Hello, Does anyone know how to re-enable the graphical boot monitor (or whatever that thing that show the fbshow messages like "Mounting hard disk",etc..)? It no longer displays anything ever since I upgraded from Openstep 4.1 to 4.2. Thanks
From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Odd Filesystem Prob under OS 4.2 Date: 17 Feb 1999 14:03:08 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Message-ID: <7aei6s$2mq22@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <36c6ee8f.19398373@news.demon.co.uk> Ric (ricsha@rainlore.demon.co.uk) wrote: : Running OS4.2 on Intel/all SCSI system. No problems mounting DOS : (FAT16) Jaz and Zip disks, yet Mac HFS (*not* HFS+) ones just get : spewed back out instantly. : : Also, I also have a hard disk on the system with Apple partition table : [...] : this partition has become invalidated and has to be initialised again. : : Anybody come across similar probs? Any ideas? Strange, yes: If you open a 'console' window, and while trying to mount the medium, is the 'mac'-fs amongst the filesystems tried (they're listed in the console)? Other than that: save the directory (/usr/filesystems/)mac.fs somewhere outside of /usr/filesystems and copy it from the original CD, possibly stripping the executable of other CPU-architectures (not necessary just for the test!). Does it work now? If so, the old fs-driver-files became corrupted (you can probably check that with diff/cmp). No other idea(s) at the moment. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: bob@columbia.uark.edu (Robert D. Bumpus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Logging off users after inactivity Date: 17 Feb 1999 21:56:24 GMT Organization: The University of Arkansas Message-ID: <7afdu8$1fr@picayune.uark.edu> I'm trying to find a way to log off certain users after a set period of inactivity. I know it's possible, but no one I've spoken to knows(nor any of the sysadmin manuals I've scoured mentions) how this can be done. Is there a simple way to do this? Bob Bumpus bob@columbia.uark.edu
From: Marcel Volkerts <volkerts@kvi.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Non-netinfo network problem Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:28:09 +0000 Organization: KVI Message-ID: <36CC3189.30B59734@kvi.nl> References: <36CC140E.E5FEE366@kvi.nl> <7ah197$7e87@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------89B3D147F421B36EBF3481EA" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------89B3D147F421B36EBF3481EA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "H.-R. Oberhage" wrote: > > To explain the symptoms is easy, to find the cause ... > Your machine simply doesn't get information - in the two cases you > list above it are machine names and services, which, on conventional > systems come from the files '/etc/hosts' and '/etc/services'; however > these files are *not* used by NS/OS (at least not by default and it's > not quite so simple to activate them under OS (some entries for > lookupd in netinfo required saying something about FFAgent(?)). > Hi, Thanks for responding! A few other weird things I noticed: when using Hostmanager to set the local properties for a non-netinfo network the /etc/hosts file is not updated., /etc/hostconfig is ok. I would expect the flat files to be consistent with any netinfo info, if not, why leave them there? Also, when using SNS to start a netinfo network something strange happens. I configure the machine using SNS according to the online documentation. SNS does not complain at all but when I reboot it complains about not being able to find the configuration server (which it is itself!) and asks for a Ctrl-C to start up without network. If i then startup SNS again, i already has the correct hostname there but the wrong, deafult 192.142.bla.bla ip-address. If i than reconfigure it and press the configure button, i get a fatal error, some complaint about a duplicate name-tag and the machine reboots. I can't remember having these kind of problems before, when using intel. But that cannot have anything to do with it i guess? > > Well, normally, even in a non-netinfo-environment netinfo nevertheless > runs on the machine with a 'local'-domain (just for that machine), > providing all this information by default - you can (e.g.) see > entries 'machines' and 'services' from the NetinfoManager if you > open the domain (local or '.' or '/' if you don't have any other domain). > That is, except for the machine-name, that you have to enter yourself; > either manually or automatically by programs as SimpleNetworkStarter > or HostManager. > > From your writing above, it seems that something must have gone wrong > with the 'local' setup. > Correct, but what? I followed the procedure excatcly, did it three times over and the same result all the time. > > You can either try to correct it, or - if nothing else helps - you can > copy over 'preset(/empty)' definitions for '/etc/hostconfig' and the > directory '/etc/netinfo' from the '/usr/template/client/etc' directory > and start all over again (carefull: This wipes out 'users' and their > passwords, too - though luckily not their home-directory or information > in it -, and machine configuration settings like printers, etc). > The thing that worries me is that i can do it again but i'm pretty sure it will give me the same result. It did the last three times....so i prefer the 'repair' option. Any tips there? Thanks a lot, Marcel --------------89B3D147F421B36EBF3481EA Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="volkerts.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Marcel Volkerts Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="volkerts.vcf" begin:vcard n:Volkerts;Marcel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:KVI;Experimental Nuclear Physics adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:volkerts@kvi.nl note;quoted-printable:Phone +31 50 3632054=0D=0AFax +31 50 3634003 x-mozilla-cpt:;-18016 fn:Marcel Volkerts end:vcard --------------89B3D147F421B36EBF3481EA--
From: ke6toi@hotmail.com (Daniel Avila) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.nsc,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,comp.sys.pc.hardware,comp.sys.pen Subject: cmsg cancel <7aickv$qfm$2054@news-1.news.gte.net> Control: cancel <7aickv$qfm$2054@news-1.news.gte.net> Date: 20 Feb 1999 13:19:46 -0500 Organization: University of Economics and Business Administration, Vienna, Austria Sender: root@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at Distribution: inet Message-ID: <cancel.2.7aickv$qfm$2054@news-1.news.gte.net> Spam Cancelled by news-admin@wu-wien.ac.at
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From: ricsha@rainlore.demon.co.uk (Ric) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Odd Filesystem Prob under OS 4.2 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:33:22 GMT Message-ID: <36ced84c.7816419@news.demon.co.uk> References: <36c6ee8f.19398373@news.demon.co.uk> <7aei6s$2mq22@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> On 17 Feb 1999 14:03:08 GMT, phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) wrote: >Ric (ricsha@rainlore.demon.co.uk) wrote: >: Running OS4.2 on Intel/all SCSI system. No problems mounting DOS >: (FAT16) Jaz and Zip disks, yet Mac HFS (*not* HFS+) ones just get >: spewed back out instantly. >: >: Also, I also have a hard disk on the system with Apple partition table >: [...] >: this partition has become invalidated and has to be initialised again. >: >: Anybody come across similar probs? Any ideas? > >Strange, yes: If you open a 'console' window, and while trying to >mount the medium, is the 'mac'-fs amongst the filesystems tried (they're >listed in the console)? Never even gets that far with removable HFS disks - they just get ejected immediately they are inserted. >Other than that: save the directory (/usr/filesystems/)mac.fs somewhere >outside of /usr/filesystems and copy it from the original CD, possibly >stripping the executable of other CPU-architectures (not necessary just >for the test!). Does it work now? > >If so, the old fs-driver-files became corrupted (you can probably check >that with diff/cmp). Nope, the mac.fs driver's fine. Everything's fine also with writing to HFS floppies (and reading HFS CDs and hard disk). >No other idea(s) at the moment. Not a common problem really, as it's a somewhat unusual setup to begin with :-) Thanks for your comments anyway. Ric
From: George B Haff <haff+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: console logins Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:40:13 -0500 Organization: Junior, Mathematical Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Mqn9PBa00UwF0k9V80@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Feb 1999 22:41:35 GMT is there any way to limit a user to console logins only (or the converse, disalow remote logins..) ? thanks, -george --- ________________________________________ |: george b haff DiXuM :| |: <haff+@andrew.cmu.edu> :| |: <dixum@cmu.edu> :| |: :| |: "y2k will rock your lame ass" :| |: -a bumper sticker :| ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Network configuration app Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:41:18 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <7ahjbs$lsn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.9902172343280.14070-100000@mail.his.com> In article <Pine.BSI.4.05L.9902172343280.14070-100000@mail.his.com>, <gbh@middlemarch.net> wrote: > I'm trying to find a network configuration app > that someone wrote but I forgot the name of it. > The app lets a stand-alone machine use netinfo > instead of having to create a resolv.conf file. > What's the name of the app and where can I find it? You're probalby looking for Omni Development's OmniDNSHelper: http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniDNSHelper/ I hope this was it. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
Message-ID: <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:48:15 -0800 From: Joe Bresler <jbresler@best.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software To: phy070@power.uni-essen.de Subject: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when networked with a PC? I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need anything besides a mini hub and the cabling? My PC has a networking card installed and is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a file server and print server (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would hopefully be down the line.... Thanks for any help you can give me! Thanks, Joe jbresler@best.com Robert Bullock > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? > > -- > To reply: remove the <nospam> from my email address: > rcbullock@<nospam>home.com > But you knew that didn't you ;P
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:33:08 -0500 From: <gbh@middlemarch.net> Subject: System fails on boot after network configuration Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.9902182215330.23168-100000@mail.his.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Organization: Heller Information Services My OS 4.2 system now fails during boot-up after I configured the network. I first installed the OS and configured everything except the ethernet card, then rebooted. I then configured the ethernet card and used HostManager App and OmniDNShelper App to configure it for the network--the ethernet card was installed and connected to the network from the beginning of the installation if that makes any difference. I then rebooted the machine and reach the following point during the boot process; Starting RPC and network services: portmapadd net default gateway 192.168.0.1 netinfo at this point the system hangs so I hit ^C and get; Mounting remote filesystems it hangs again, I hit ^C again; Starting file service daemons: Apr 18 00:57:58 tipton syslogd: going down on signal 15 at this point it stops and puts me in single user mode. I'd appreciate any help in setting this up. --Greg
From: piers@ilink.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Problems formatting Fujitsu DynaMO 640 disks on Openstep 4.2 Date: 21 Feb 1999 02:26:12 GMT Organization: Berlin.DE Message-ID: <919563972.237452@newsvl21> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just installed a new Fujitsu DynaMO 640 drive on a PC running Openstep 4.2. Whenever I insert a MOD, the Workspace complains about the disk not being initialized. Trying to initialize the disk fails with this error message being written to the console: /usr/etc/disk -i -h milch -l "od1" -d 635586560 /dev/rsd2a NOTE: This device's block size (2048) is too big to coerce to DEV_BSIZE (1024). You won't be able to use it with software versions earlier than Release 3.0. disk name: FUJITSU M2513EL 0020T0 disk type: removable_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd2a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd2a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd2a 310272 64 8 8192 2048 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: 4096 bytes per inode impossible due to cylinder group size, using 6117 bytes per inode Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. /dev/rsd2a: 310272 sectors in 606 cylinders of 8 tracks, 64 sectors 635.4Mb in 38 cyl groups (16 c/g, 16.78Mb/g, 2048 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at:write error: 16 wtfs: Invalid argument /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd2a failed (status 1) As suggested in a posting by Lee Altenberg, I did set DIP switch 1 to ON (in order to get rid of the earlier error message: "cylinder group too large (16 cylinders); max: 14 cylinders per group"). Here's the info about the exact drive model I'm using: # scsimodes /dev/rsd2a SCSI information for /dev/rsd2a Drive type: FUJITSU M2513EL 0020T0 0 bytes per sector 64 sectors per track 8 tracks per cylinder 606 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 8 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 310351 usable sectors on volume I even tried using the disktab posted by Christian Neuss (adapting the drive's name to match the info given above): # # Fujitsu 640mb 3.5" MO SCSI M2513EL-2048 # # M2513EL-640|M2513EL-2048|M2513EL-640-2048|FUJITSU M2513EL-640-2048|FUJITSU M2513EL 0020T0:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#808:nt#2:ns#192:ss#2048:rm#3600:\ :fp#80:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=mach_kernel:z0#16:z1#48:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#310272:ba#8192:fa#2048:ca#16:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: Has anybody succeeded in formatting these beasts under Openstep? Did I make an obvious configuration mistake? Should I assume I've got defective hardware? Thanks for any help Piers Uso Walter <piers@ilink.de> ilink Kommunikationssysteme GmbH
From: "Robert Bullock" <rcbullock@<nospam>.home.com> Subject: Re: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com> Organization: Susie Message-ID: <01be5d4d$7c434180$010044c0@cx714092-a> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 03:49:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:49:00 PDT Joe Bresler <jbresler@best.com> wrote in article <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com>... > Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when networked > with a PC? Well I can browse and use my CD and my first partition on my HD (maybe that has something to do with my problem, access to 1st partition only?). And I can browse the web and get my mail (still have to make it send rigght tho.) and read news. I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono > slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need anything > besides a mini hub and the cabling? I used 2 NIC's and coax cabling to the NeXT and the PC was in the middle with the other network card on a cable modem. My PC has a networking card installed and > is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a file > server and print server Can't help you there, mine goes the other way. (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the > nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would hopefully > be down the line.... I use: WinGate 2.1 under Windows 95 as a proxy server (free 1 user) TrueGrid NFS server (free) PopOver (for getting mail on the NeXT) > Robert Bullock > > > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > > > > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and > > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition > > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that?
From: Marcel Volkerts <volkerts@kvi.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Non-netinfo network problem Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:38:14 +0000 Organization: KVI Message-ID: <36CD4D26.BBC1B249@kvi.nl> References: <36CC140E.E5FEE366@kvi.nl> <7ah197$7e87@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> <36CC3189.30B59734@kvi.nl> <7ahik6$a1o9@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------FC66DC667722F08E42E7FE0F" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FC66DC667722F08E42E7FE0F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "H.-R. Oberhage" wrote: > > > : [...] > : Correct, but what? I followed the procedure excatcly, did it three times > : over and the same result all the time. > > Strange - no one's that stupid to make the same error trice :-). > Well, as a nuclear physicist I value good statistsics :) But the good news is: it's solved. When following the procedure described in the sysadmin bookshelf all goes well execpt for one thing: in the netinfo database no host entry is made for your own machine. When i looked, only localhost and broadcasthost were present. So i added an entry for nemesis, my machine, and voila, up and running we were. That took care of the autonfsmount error I got.I than added the other hosts as described via niload and after that I could do anything to any host and I was once again a very happy Cube owner. Thanks for helping, Marcel --------------FC66DC667722F08E42E7FE0F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="volkerts.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Marcel Volkerts Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="volkerts.vcf" begin:vcard n:Volkerts;Marcel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:KVI;Experimental Nuclear Physics adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:volkerts@kvi.nl note;quoted-printable:Phone +31 50 3632054=0D=0AFax +31 50 3634003 x-mozilla-cpt:;-18016 fn:Marcel Volkerts end:vcard --------------FC66DC667722F08E42E7FE0F--
From: pokey069@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Trouble building a new file system with Adaptec 2940 controller Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:00:29 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <7ajn9a$frj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <7ahlbr$e75$1@jake.esu.edu> I had a problem with that same controller and a seagate drive. I don't remember the exact error I got but it was while I was trying to partition it during the install. I think I got around it by making the entire disk fat, then during the install I had it erase the dos partition and create a nextstep partition. How many drives do you have in your system? Maybe changing the scsi id might help. The 2940's are a little quirky and maybe moving things around might help. In article <7ahlbr$e75$1@jake.esu.edu>, hutchens@cs.millersv.edu (David H. Hutchens) wrote: > When I attempt to run the 'disk' initialization program on a fixed hard > disk with the Adaptec 2940 controller, I get the following messages: > > mills:31# disk -i /dev/rsd2a > disk name: SEAGATE ST31200N SUN1.0 > disk type: fixed_rw_scsi > writing disk label > Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot > Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 > creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd2a > /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd2a > /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd2a 1030394 43 9 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t > Warning: 187 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated > /dev/rsd2a: 1030394 sectors in 2663 cylinders of 9 tracks, 43 sectors > 1055.1Mb in 167 cyl groups (16 c/g, 6.34Mb/g, 1472 i/g) > super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at:write error: 32 > wtfs: Invalid argument > /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd2a failed (status 1) > > The /usr/adm/messages file contains: > > Feb 18 13:04:36 mills mach: a2940_0: Max DMA Count Exceeded (max = 131072, > request = 188416) > Feb 18 13:04:36 mills mach: sd2: Command Reject : FATAL ERROR > Feb 18 13:04:36 mills mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Write block:384 > blockCount:368 > > I have tried changing synchronization modes in the driver with no effect. > I have tried both version 4.00 and version 4.02 of the Adaptec 2940 > driver. > > I have built a file system on this disk with a DPT controller in the past > while running Openstep 4.2. I was able to read and use the disk using the > Adaptec controller. I just can't build a new file system on it. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > - David Hutchens > hutchens@cs.millersv.edu > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <15546918968424@digifix.com> Date: 21 Feb 1999 04:44:23 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <7743919573220@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Peanuts Archive http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/Rhapsody http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/MacOSX http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/WebObjects http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData The Peanuts-Archive is the premier site in Europe and mirrored in whole or parts all over the world. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Site http://www.apple.com/macosx/ Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Developer Site http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server/ Apple Computer's WebObjects Site http://www.apple.com/webobjects/ Mac OS X Server Developer Documentation http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosxserver/macosxserver.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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From: pokey069@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 15:16:02 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Message-ID: <7ap7vd$vre$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com> <01be5d4d$7c434180$010044c0@cx714092-a> Why not try using samba instead of NFS? In article <01be5d4d$7c434180$010044c0@cx714092-a>, "Robert Bullock" <rcbullock@<nospam>.home.com> wrote: > > > Joe Bresler <jbresler@best.com> wrote in article > <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com>... > > Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when > networked > > with a PC? > > Well I can browse and use my CD and my first partition on my HD (maybe that > has something to do with my problem, access to 1st partition only?). And I > can browse the web and get my mail (still have to make it send rigght tho.) > and read news. > > I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono > > slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need > anything > > besides a mini hub and the cabling? > > I used 2 NIC's and coax cabling to the NeXT and the PC was in the middle > with the other network card on a cable modem. > > My PC has a networking card installed and > > is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a > file > > server and print server > > Can't help you there, mine goes the other way. > > (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the > > nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would > hopefully > > be down the line.... > > I use: > > WinGate 2.1 under Windows 95 as a proxy server (free 1 user) > TrueGrid NFS server (free) > PopOver (for getting mail on the NeXT) > > > Robert Bullock > > > > > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > > > > > > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > > > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' > and > > > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > > > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the > partition > > > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? > > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Feb 1999 11:28:57 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <7aoqlp$j7q$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com> install SAMBA Client and Server.. it should work godwin Joe Bresler (jbresler@best.com) wrote: : Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when networked : with a PC? I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono : slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need anything : besides a mini hub and the cabling? My PC has a networking card installed and : is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a file : server and print server (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the : nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would hopefully : be down the line.... : Thanks for any help you can give me! : Thanks, : Joe : jbresler@best.com : Robert Bullock : > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: : > : > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS : > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and : > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive : > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition : > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? : > : > -- : > To reply: remove the <nospam> from my email address: : > rcbullock@<nospam>home.com : > But you knew that didn't you ;P
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From: "Charles \"Jim\" Koch" <koch@eng2.uconn.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXT Monitor Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:43:52 -0500 Organization: University of Connecticut Message-ID: <36D16D27.34572ED6@eng2.uconn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need some help on a cube. The moniter stopped working. It is powering up. I can access the system remotely. Is there a known problem with the board of a command I can execute on startup that might help. Thanks Jim
These are the contents of the former NiCE NeXT User Group NeXTSTEP/OpenStep software archive, currently hosted by Marcel Waldvogel and Netfuture.ch.