#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!masternews.telia.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!netnews.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!hammer.msfc.nasa.gov!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Sender: gericom@usa.net Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov Subject: cmsg cancel <75tbh9$gjq$2187@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it> Control: cancel <75tbh9$gjq$2187@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: hammer.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: http://www.msfc.nasa.gov Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:00:41 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Orig-Path: newsfeed.cwix.com!158.43.192.17!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!ams.news.uu.net!uunet!in5.uu.net!server-b.cs.interbusiness.it!not-for-mail X-Orig-Subject: The Interactive Dance Compilation you can play and Mix on your PC!! 3348 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.223.235.200 X-Cancel-ID: -"J1@)&DN?"OW_'L#2`E4&1:P;#!U.D@WP\A'#U058"4BO'@\0094`\_ Lines: 2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5597977 Canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!netnews.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: pop and smtp for mail3.3 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3690b7ab.226841286@news.xecu.net> Lines: 23 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 03:03:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.73 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 915505422 209.212.132.73 (Mon, 04 Jan 1999 22:03:42 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 22:03:42 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32601 In <3690b7ab.226841286@news.xecu.net> Dallas Kincaid wrote: > Actually there is a POP3 client for NextStep. I compiled one about 8 > months ago. Of course, you will need the developers kit. But it > works. There's none there by default. There are several that you can choose from of course. PopOver, which I mentioned below, is already compiled and tested and works fine. But there's none there by default. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me. AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!netnews.com!news.megsinet.net!aol.com From: RajLamba@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Pent II 300 system 45338 Date: Monday, 04 Jan 1999 21:14:53 -0600 Organization: MegsInet, Inc. - Low Cost, High Performance Internet Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <04019921.1453@aol.com> Reply-To: RajLamba@aol.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.81.229.131 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32602 Hello I have some 36bit 600x1200 scanners that i want to sell. Along with vidoe cards netwoking few other things you can see the list of things i have at http://members.xoom.com/RajLamba/comp.htm copy and paste the address. You are welcome to make an offer to me on any of those prices I will try my best to do whatever i can for you Thank you. Raj FDL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!master.news.rcn.net!asmang From: asmang@NOSPAMmail.wm.edu (Arun Mangalam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OSX , Objective C & web programming Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 10:17:58 -0500 Organization: College of William & Mary Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net> <1dl8giu.y1eolq1q5f2cwN@ascend-tk-p54.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> <1dl8ws5.7q5xlqski16oN@ascend-tk-p6.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <36951C21.A0AD7C9B@psca.com> <3695c5fd.0@news.guernsey.net> X-Trace: C18KQAy+nPjZRGyQT5KeDX25tYDt6YfgNLMwE/QpNck= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Jan 1999 15:18:13 GMT X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35110 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32611 comp.sys.next.programmer:30219 In article <3695c5fd.0@news.guernsey.net>, "Damien Guard" wrote: > >ONE NOTE OF CLARIFICATION: When one mentions Intel and PPC their are > >two distinct forks in the road regarding Intel. The first that will be > >supported for along time to come is Yellow Box/WebObjects for Windows > >NT. The second is the native release of MacOS X Server for Intel > >Processors. Apple has already said they are committed to releasing > >MacOS X Server 1.0 Customer Release 1 (CR1) on Intel. Now it is their > >perogative to readdress this if it is in their best business interest > >NOT to release it. I am for better or for worse am not too concerned. > >With a world class Server Operating System running on world class PPC > >Hardware at prices Consumers can afford absolutely astounds me. > > Some of us are currently happy with their (Intel) hardware and need to run > some > Windows based apps. > > *However* if Apple release OSX Server on Intel after a few months I may find > that > my switching to Windows reduces as I find OSX alternatives. Eventually (I > am a developer after all) > I may find that I spend all my time in OSX. > > If that became the case then when it was time to upgrade my hardware I'd > have no > reservation about getting a nice fast, good looking blue/white G3 box. > > As it is at the moment I'm not prepared to spend $3000 on a new machine and > $995 on an OS > to find out that in fact it does/doesn't suit me and leave it in a corner > while I plod along on > my Intel box. > > [)amien Why the $3000? Aren't the new machine's base price supposed to be below $2000, somewhere around $1500 I heard. $2500 For the whole deal doesn't sound too bad to me, considering that I get WebObjects and all the rest of YellowBox goodies... I guess everyone to their own. I just hope Apple starts supporting Powerbooks, because those machines are fast... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.lightlink.com!news.graphics.cornell.edu!news From: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OSX , Objective C & web programming Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 08 Jan 1999 12:35:14 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics Lines: 39 Sender: westin@BRANCUSI Message-ID: References: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net> <1dl8giu.y1eolq1q5f2cwN@ascend-tk-p54.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> <1dl8ws5.7q5xlqski16oN@ascend-tk-p6.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <36951C21.A0AD7C9B@psca.com> <3695c5fd.0@news.guernsey.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: brancusi.graphics.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35113 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32612 comp.sys.next.programmer:30220 asmang@NOSPAMmail.wm.edu (Arun Mangalam) writes: > In article <3695c5fd.0@news.guernsey.net>, "Damien Guard" > wrote: > > As it is at the moment I'm not prepared to spend $3000 on a new machine and > > $995 on an OS > > to find out that in fact it does/doesn't suit me and leave it in a corner > > while I plod along on > > my Intel box. > > > > [)amien > > Why the $3000? Aren't the new machine's base price supposed to be below > $2000, somewhere around $1500 I heard. $2500 For the whole deal doesn't > sound too bad to me, considering that I get WebObjects and all the rest of > YellowBox goodies... I guess everyone to their own. I just hope Apple > starts supporting Powerbooks, because those machines are fast... But the point is that $2500 constitutes a real commitment for most of us; if Apple allowed people to run OS/X on their Intel boxes for a much lower price, it might just entice more customers into the camp, possibly increasing Apple hardware sales as well. Especially at currently Intel-only shops; it's probably a lot easier to hide/justify a couple hundred dollars and a disk drive for a dual boot than to buy a whole new box just to be able to demonstrate the wonders of NeXTStep/OpenStep/OS-X. Think of it as the thin end of the wedge. Right now I'm typing this on an NT machine; there would be no problem with management if I decided to load Linux or OS/X on a separate partition, but there's no real chance of replacing it with Apple hardware. -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <3142915339621@digifix.com> Date: 10 Jan 1999 04:45:03 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 327 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <6325915944426@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:117059 comp.sys.next.announce:4869 comp.sys.next.hardware:35741 comp.sys.next.software:35135 comp.sys.next.misc:29200 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32613 comp.sys.next.bugs:5010 comp.sys.next.programmer:30229 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.maz.net!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!wesley.videotron.net!weber.videotron.net.POSTED!jsfortier From: jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-Sébastien Fortier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Mail-Copies-To: jsfortier@videotron.ca Subject: Network problem on a lan Message-ID: Organization: ProMac X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 Lines: 22 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:19:15 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.253.93.122 X-Complaints-To: abuse@videotron.net X-Trace: weber.videotron.net 915995957 207.253.93.122 (Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:19:17 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:19:17 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32614 I have a big problem with my Next station color turbo. I would be happy to get a solution. Using the instructions on the peak archive, I configured my Next station to use internet on local network (Instructions I used were made for cable modem). It worked for a while. One morning, I powered up my Next and the boot process hanged at "Starting file service daemons:". I halted the process and the boot continued and stopped again at "Starting Next daemons: inetd" This tiume it didn't stopped, there was just a significant lag. My network services were down. I wiped the Netinfo database (as in the instructions), rebooted, and the problem was gone. Reconfigured the network, and the problem was back.... The problem even show off without my physical network connection. What can I do ? I don't even have the openstep install cd... I would be happy to get one today ;-) ------------------------- Jean-Sebastien Fortier Technicien en systèmes Macintosh #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!howland.erols.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!news.egate.net!odin.egate.net!hocker From: hocker@odin.egate.net (Matthew Hocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: PPP 2.2 - Authentication? Date: 10 Jan 1999 22:28:08 GMT Organization: E-Gate Communications (egate.net), Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 11 Message-ID: <77b9ho$h50$1@baldur.egate.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: odin.egate.net X-Trace: baldur.egate.net 916007288 17568 207.34.206.2 (10 Jan 1999 22:28:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@egate.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Jan 1999 22:28:08 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32615 comp.os.linux.networking:156798 I just joined bellatlantic.net, and surprise-surprise, no support for UNIX systems. I used to dial into an ISP which supported a chat-like login, but bellatlantic drops you right into ppp and expects you to authenticate there. My question: how do I set up pppd to authenticate in the ppp session, like windows 98 does? Many thanks. Please email to matt_hocker@xxyahoo.com. (take the xx's out) Matt #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Network problem on a lan Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:14:31 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 55 Message-ID: <77bc8m$822$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.249.190.74 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Jan 10 23:14:31 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998H HTTPS/1.04a OmniNetworking/1998H OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998H OmniFoundation/1998H OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x11.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 207.249.190.74 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32616 In article , jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-Sébastien Fortier) wrote: > I have a big problem with my Next station color turbo. I would be happy > to get a solution. > > Using the instructions on the peak archive, I configured my Next station > to use internet on local network (Instructions I used were made for cable > modem). It worked for a while. One morning, I powered up my Next and the > boot process hanged at "Starting file service daemons:". I halted the > process and the boot continued and stopped again at "Starting Next > daemons: inetd" This tiume it didn't stopped, there was just a significant > lag. > > My network services were down. > > I wiped the Netinfo database (as in the instructions), rebooted, and the > problem was gone. Reconfigured the network, and the problem was back.... > The problem even show off without my physical network connection. > > What can I do ? I don't even have the openstep install cd... I would be > happy to get one today ;-) Your NetInfo configuration is wrong. The machine probably sleeps trying to find a NetInfo server. Solution (assuming your machine is a standalone machine): Using HostManager go to Local... and make the following changes NetInfo Binding ... Use local domain only Set "Readable only by local net" Hostname ... your machine name should be here (no qualification necessary) NIS Domain Name ... none Internet address ... your machine address Broadcast address ... Default Time Standard ... Ignore network time Netmask ... 255.255.255.0 Router ... None (or your cable modem address if that is your router) Push the "Set" button and reboot. Hope this helps. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.225!attworldnet!newsadm From: Frank Hale Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: PPP 2.2 - Authentication? Date: 11 Jan 1999 00:12:53 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 26 Message-ID: <36994283.DDA44769@worldnet.att.net> References: <77b9ho$h50$1@baldur.egate.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.79.199.254 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32617 comp.os.linux.networking:156824 Matthew Hocker wrote: > > I just joined bellatlantic.net, and surprise-surprise, no support for > UNIX systems. I used to dial into an ISP which supported a chat-like > login, but bellatlantic drops you right into ppp and expects you to authenticate > there. > > My question: how do I set up pppd to authenticate in the ppp session, like > windows 98 does? > > Many thanks. Please email to matt_hocker@xxyahoo.com. (take the xx's out) > > Matt Downgrade your PPP package to 2.2.0 and everything should work fine then. At least it did for me. BellAtlantic.net won't connect with newer versions of PPP, thats why I dumped them yesterday and switched ISP's. I had been trying to get it to work with updated PPP packages for a year with no luck. -- From: Frank Hale Email: frankhale@worldnet.att.net ICQ: 7205161 Homepage: http://members.xoom.com/frankhale/ Jade: http://jade.netpedia.net/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!not-for-mail From: beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu (James W. Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 11 Jan 1999 01:40:51 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Lines: 18 Message-ID: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cmp-rs.music.uiuc.edu Keywords: Year 2000 compliant date command X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32618 I just tried the date command on my NeXT Cube (NS 3.2) and was shocked to discover that # date 0001101923 gives Sat Jan 10 19:23:00 PST 1970 '00' reverts us to 1970? How come? I thought surely a computer that came out in 1989 would have had the Y2K thing figured out! Please tell me what solutions have been worked out. I don't want to have to throw my NeXT away next January 1st as I still have lots of programs that are working just fine for me! Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!newsfeed.fast.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: PPP 2.2 - Authentication? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77b9ho$h50$1@baldur.egate.net> Lines: 33 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:22:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.210 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916028574 209.212.132.210 (Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:22:54 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:22:54 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32619 comp.os.linux.networking:156863 In <77b9ho$h50$1@baldur.egate.net> Matthew Hocker wrote: > My question: how do I set up pppd to authenticate in the ppp session, like > windows 98 does? More than likely they are using PAP for authentication. You make a chat script just like before, except that you leave off everything after the "ogin:" You have to make a /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file and set them up according to the manpage. See http://www.peak.org/next/ppp/ and get the latest binary installer. > Many thanks. Please email to matt_hocker@xxyahoo.com. (take the xx's out) Well you'll either have to provide a working email address or check back for followups. BTW there's really no reason to muck your email address in the BODY of the messages. Spammers take them out of the headers and there's no evidence they take them from the body (which would take too long anyway). TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.pop.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!surfnet.nl!rug.nl!not-for-mail From: Marcel Volkerts Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:00:51 +0000 Organization: KVI Lines: 24 Message-ID: <369A1223.C45637A6@kvi.nl> References: <77cbv1$2q1$1@info.service.rug.nl> <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77cmg3$1t8@uni2f.unige.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: kvip05.kvi.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32620 moetteli@citeu.unige.ch wrote: > In Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? comp.sys.next.sysadmin Emile de Kleine writes, > > > luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) wrote: > >>In <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> James W. Beauchamp wrote: > >> > >>> I thought surely a computer that came out in 1989 would have had the > >>> Y2K thing figured out! > >> > > > >> > >>OpenStep 4.2 wasn't even Y2K compliant, but there are patches for it. > >> > > > > And what about OpenStep 4.0? > > I don't know about all the different versions, but I propose those people to upgrade (shoudn't cost that much any more) Sorry? Shouldn't cost that much? Where did you get that idea? Marcel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!howland.erols.net!usc!newshub.csu.net!not-for-mail From: "Zach Wilkinson" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: 3.3/intel doesnt't detect ide Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:09:29 -0800 Organization: CSUnet Lines: 14 Message-ID: <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ntw01.engr.sjsu.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32621 I'm attempting to install 3.3 for Intel on PCI/IDE systems. After it loads the device drivers diskette, it present me with two lists of SCSI controllers. No IDE drivers are available for selection. I've tried three different systems; 430FX chipset, 430TX chipset, and 440BX chipset. All with one HD in the primary/master position, and a CDROM in the secondary/master position. The only time I've seen the IDE driver selections is on a 486DX2-66 / ISA system. It had a 1542CF and no IDE controller. I'm using the exact same boot set each time. TIA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.pop.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!chicago-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!news.xnet.com!newsgate.mot.com!newshost.mot.com!nntp.cig.mot.com!not-for-mail From: "Brent A. Peterson" <\\bap9\\@\\my-dejanews.com\\> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:09:04 -0600 Organization: -- Lines: 15 Message-ID: <77dlp1$dq47@nntp.cig.mot.com> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: me666.ecg.csg.mot.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32622 "James W. Beauchamp" wrote: > > I just tried the date command on my NeXT Cube (NS 3.2) and was shocked > to discover that > > # date 0001101923 > There is Y2K version of date avialible at the peak archive, another thing that needs repair is the at commands (at,atq...) As far as I know there is no fixed version avialible I downloaded the BSD source but am getting wierd makefile errors even before i've modified things and dont really know how to fix it up to compile, let alone get around to modifing it. -Bp #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newscore.univie.ac.at!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.71.76.137!news.campus.mci.net!uky.edu!news.cuny.edu!acs2.byu.edu!not-for-mail From: smithwNOSPAM@tankNO.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 11 Jan 1999 14:49:40 -0700 Organization: Brigham Young University Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: tank.math.byu.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32623 Actually, Apple told the SEC last month that they would release a patch for NeXTstep 3.3 in the fall of 1999 to fix any Y2K issues with the OS. Will it happen? -- Bill Smith, BYU mathematics dept. ph. 378-2061, fax 378-3703 email: smithwNOSPAM@NOSPAM.math.byu.edu Remove NOSPAM for legitimate mail #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!howland.erols.net!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 3.3/intel doesnt't detect ide Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:34:12 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 34 Message-ID: <77e1pk$hh9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.34.173.129 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Jan 11 23:34:12 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998H HTTPS/1.04a OmniNetworking/1998H OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998H OmniFoundation/1998H OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x3.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 200.34.173.129 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32624 In article <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net>, "Zach Wilkinson" wrote: > I'm attempting to install 3.3 for Intel on PCI/IDE systems. After it loads > the device drivers diskette, it present me with two lists of SCSI > controllers. No IDE drivers are available for selection. I've tried three > different systems; 430FX chipset, 430TX chipset, and 440BX chipset. All > with one HD in the primary/master position, and a CDROM in the > secondary/master position. > The only time I've seen the IDE driver selections is on a 486DX2-66 / ISA > system. It had a 1542CF and no IDE controller. > > I'm using the exact same boot set each time. The list of drivers shows all relevant drivers on the floppy disk (and even let you insert another floppy). So if you don't see the IDE drivers, which are on the 3rd page of drivers (use 7 to continue looking at more drivers) then your drivers disk is not the original floppy. I would recommend to download the beta drivers disk image, from NeXTanswers: http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2078.htmld/2078.html since the last version of the EIDE driver is much improved (bus mastering PIIX mode 2 transfers.) Regards. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!wesley.videotron.net!weber.videotron.net.POSTED!jsfortier From: jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-Sébastien Fortier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Mail-Copies-To: jsfortier@videotron.ca Subject: Re: Network problem on a lan Message-ID: References: <77bc8m$822$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Organization: ProMac X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 Lines: 65 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:24:55 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.253.93.30 X-Complaints-To: abuse@videotron.net X-Trace: weber.videotron.net 916115099 207.253.93.30 (Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:24:59 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:24:59 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32625 In article <77bc8m$822$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, rberber@my-dejanews.com wrote: >In article , > jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-Sébastien Fortier) wrote: > >> I have a big problem with my Next station color turbo. I would be happy >> to get a solution. >> >> Using the instructions on the peak archive, I configured my Next station >> to use internet on local network (Instructions I used were made for cable >> modem). It worked for a while. One morning, I powered up my Next and the >> boot process hanged at "Starting file service daemons:". I halted the >> process and the boot continued and stopped again at "Starting Next >> daemons: inetd" This tiume it didn't stopped, there was just a significant >> lag. >> >> My network services were down. >> >> I wiped the Netinfo database (as in the instructions), rebooted, and the >> problem was gone. Reconfigured the network, and the problem was back.... >> The problem even show off without my physical network connection. >> >> What can I do ? I don't even have the openstep install cd... I would be >> happy to get one today ;-) > >Your NetInfo configuration is wrong. The machine probably sleeps trying to >find a NetInfo server. > >Solution (assuming your machine is a standalone machine): > >Using HostManager go to Local... and make the following changes > >NetInfo Binding ... Use local domain only >Set "Readable only by local net" > >Hostname ... your machine name should be here (no qualification necessary) > >NIS Domain Name ... none > >Internet address ... your machine address > >Broadcast address ... Default > >Time Standard ... Ignore network time > >Netmask ... 255.255.255.0 > >Router ... None (or your cable modem address if that is your router) > >Push the "Set" button and reboot. > >Hope this helps. >-- >Rene Berber > >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own I did all that, except for the network time. I'll try it and give you news ------------------------- Jean-Sebastien Fortier Technicien en systèmes Macintosh #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!isdnet!uu.fr!imaginet.net!imaginet.fr!usenet From: latitude@imaginet.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Looking for EOF 1.1 for nexstep 3.3 Date: 11 Jan 1999 23:07:59 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 4 Message-ID: <77e08f$755$3@news.imaginet.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.68.9.63 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32626 Sender latitude@imaginet.fr I am looking foe EOF 1.1 (Enterprise Objects Framework Release 1.1) if someone still has it please let me know. Thank you #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.lightlink.com!news.graphics.cornell.edu!news From: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 12 Jan 1999 03:28:08 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics Lines: 26 Sender: westin@BRANCUSI Message-ID: References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <8oym2.18546$kR5.23682@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: brancusi.graphics.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32627 gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) writes: > In article , > Dr. William V. Smith wrote: > >Actually, Apple told the SEC last month that they would release > >a patch for NeXTstep 3.3 in the fall of 1999 to fix any Y2K > >issues with the OS. Will it happen? > > In terms of upgrades, I don't think NeXT/Apple is supporting 3.x at all, > any more. From the Apple Form 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on December 23, Certain products acquired from NeXT Software, Inc., including OpenStep and NextStep, are not currently Y2K compliant. The Company intends to develop and make available during the third quarter of fiscal 1999 a software patch intended to allow such products to become Y2K compliant. So they mention NextStep specifically. But who knows? -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 3.3/intel doesnt't detect ide Date: 11 Jan 1999 21:40:30 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 16 Message-ID: <77dr4e$imd$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sting.unl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32628 In article <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> "Zach Wilkinson" writes: > I'm attempting to install 3.3 for Intel on PCI/IDE systems. After it loads > the device drivers diskette, it present me with two lists of SCSI > controllers. No IDE drivers are available for selection. I've tried three You have to specify a "dummy" scsi driver (the aha-1542 is usually used), THEN load the IDE driver second. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.eurocyber.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.ecrc.net!jupiter.NIC.DTAG.DE!news.online.de!not-for-mail!thomas From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:54:22 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Lines: 12 Sender: thomas@news.online.de (thomas) Message-ID: <1999Jan11.235422.1206@news.online.de> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dlp1$dq47@nntp.cig.mot.com> Reply-To: thf@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pc19f138c.dip.t-online.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Server-Date: 12 Jan 1999 10:35:50 GMT Cc: \\bap9\\@\\my-dejanews.com\\ X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32629 In <77dlp1$dq47@nntp.cig.mot.com> "Brent A. Peterson" wrote: > another thing that needs repair is the at commands (at,atq...) Just checked it: The at command works. The atq shows the wrong year, but this is only cosmetical. (This is under NS3.2, m68k) -- Java: Write once, debug anywhere #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!ams.uu.net!ffx.uu.net!in4.uu.net!news.winternet.com!beginning-of-email From: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 11 Jan 1999 22:04:41 GMT Organization: TJP Inc. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-66-80.dialup.winternet.com X-Trace: blackice.winternet.com 916092281 22537 204.246.66.80 (11 Jan 1999 22:04:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@winternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Jan 1999 22:04:41 GMT X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.96 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32630 You (James W. Beauchamp ) wrote in newsgroup comp.sys.next.sysadmin, on 11 Jan 1999 01:40:51 GMT: > '00' reverts us to 1970? How come? NeXT states in NeXTanswer #2641: [...] "The NeXTSTEP 3.3 operating system is not Year 2000 compliant. NeXTSTEP 3.3 contains known Year 2000 problems, including problems with the date command..." (Note: this can be fixed with the Gnu date available on PEAK) "...and the Preferences application that may make it impossible to set the date on your computer after January 1, 2000." (Note: Only impossible to set the dat from within Preferences.app. With the Gnu date commane, the correct date could be set from the CLI) "There are also known problems with email and with certain Unix utilities such as at, atrun, atq, troff, nroff, and mail." (Note these would be non-fatal errors, and all are probably fixable with Gnu replacements.) This NeXTanswer goes on to say: "One framework in NeXTSTEP 3.3 which performed explicit date-handling was DBKit, the predecessor to Apple's Enterprise Objects Framework. DBKit did not handle dates in a Year 2000-compliant fashion, and therefore any application which makes use of DBKit is likely to experience Year 2000 problems." So... there you have it. not Y2K compliant, but probably close enough with a few fixes. --Chris ************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@winternet.com MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK "Sacred cows make the best hamburger." --Mark Twain #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!nntp.abs.net!news.abs.net!not-for-mail From: dallas@xecu.net (Dallas Kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Message-ID: <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 30 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:16:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.244.235.3 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xecu.net X-Trace: news.abs.net 916143420 208.244.235.3 (Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:17:00 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:17:00 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32631 I think at the time, programmers never thought *THEIR* version of software would be carried over to the year 2000. Think of moore's law and how fast technology changes. NextStep was way ahead of it's time in function and that is why it remains today. Dallas On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:29:11 GMT, gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) wrote: >The version of RCS (revision-control system) shipped with 3.2 also >stores dates in 2-digit format. > > >I can understand the need for 2-digit dates in the 1950's and '60's, >when core memory and disk were precious commodities. But, if I ever found >out that I had hired a programmer to write code in C under Unix (or >even Windows), who produced code in the late-20th century dates in >2-digit format, he'd be out of a job real fast. I can't think of a more >obvious programming idiocy. > > >g. > >-- > I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive > not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy >ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 >Geoffrey T. Falk http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.idt.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!isdnet!enst!jussieu.fr!not-for-mail From: windey@amon.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Paul WINDEY) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ADSL for NeXT Hardware? Date: 12 Jan 1999 12:21:51 GMT Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Lines: 27 Message-ID: <77feov$hps$1@vishnu.jussieu.fr> References: <75d2n7$3rh$1@eskinews.eskimo.com> <75o9ga$huc3@nntp.cig.mot.com> <75pnki$5ev@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: amon.lpthe.jussieu.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:35759 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32632 no.spam.please@no.spam.period wrote: > There is a package for dhcp2.0b1pl6 (note that this is a beta) on peak for OpenStep at > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/openstep/mach/apps/utils/networks/ > This is compiled for OpenStep 4.2 (Intel and m68k) only, although the bpf the package installs works on NS 3.3 or OpenStep 4.2 (Intel and m68k). > I tested this with one cablemodem provider that used dhcp and it works fine, but configuring the /etc/dhclient.conf script to work with your particular (ISP) provider can be tricky. > Tim Luoma's page has very clear, detailed instructions on setting Netinfo up for a static ip address in his "articles": > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ > JP > Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): > jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com > NeXTMail/MIME welcome Does anyone knows if it works also fot NS 3.3 ? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!howland.erols.net!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!allstars.onestep.co.uk!not-for-mail From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Andrew Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Looking for EOF 1.1 for nexstep 3.3 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:29:59 GMT Message-ID: <916144199.25318.0.nnrp-11.c30b1c0b@news.demon.co.uk> References: <77e08f$755$3@news.imaginet.fr> Reply-To: david@onestep.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: allstars.onestep.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: allstars.onestep.co.uk:195.11.28.11 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 916144199 nnrp-11:25318 NO-IDENT allstars.onestep.co.uk:195.11.28.11 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.4 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: latitude@imaginet.fr Lines: 18 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32633 In <77e08f$755$3@news.imaginet.fr> latitude@imaginet.fr wrote: > Sender latitude@imaginet.fr > > I am looking foe EOF 1.1 (Enterprise Objects Framework Release 1.1) if > someone still has it please let me know. Thank you > We still have some shrinkwrapped. -- Regards David Knight | OneStep Solutions Plc | Solutions | | Workstations Innovative Solutions | UK phone: 01702 426400 | Servers For MacOS X, Windows NT | fax: 01702 426420 | Security OPENSTEP and Solaris | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Networks using Yellow Box and | | Maintenance WebObjects technologies | http://www.onestep.co.uk | Support #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newspeer.monmouth.com!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/ Originator: gtf@theorem Lines: 19 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:29:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.65.208.129 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com 916108151 24.65.208.129 (Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:29:11 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:29:11 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32634 The version of RCS (revision-control system) shipped with 3.2 also stores dates in 2-digit format. I can understand the need for 2-digit dates in the 1950's and '60's, when core memory and disk were precious commodities. But, if I ever found out that I had hired a programmer to write code in C under Unix (or even Windows), who produced code in the late-20th century dates in 2-digit format, he'd be out of a job real fast. I can't think of a more obvious programming idiocy. g. -- I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 Geoffrey T. Falk http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.maz.net!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/ Originator: gtf@theorem Lines: 16 Message-ID: <8oym2.18546$kR5.23682@news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:25:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.65.208.129 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com 916107908 24.65.208.129 (Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:25:08 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:25:08 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32635 In article , Dr. William V. Smith wrote: >Actually, Apple told the SEC last month that they would release >a patch for NeXTstep 3.3 in the fall of 1999 to fix any Y2K >issues with the OS. Will it happen? In terms of upgrades, I don't think NeXT/Apple is supporting 3.x at all, any more. g. -- I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 Geoffrey T. Falk http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!diablo.theplanet.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!news.kigam.re.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet From: "Seung-joo Lee" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 3.3/intel doesnt't detect ide Date: 12 Jan 1999 16:42:47 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Lines: 22 Message-ID: <77fu27$q9m$2@news.kornet.nm.kr> References: <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> Reply-To: feelfree@ppp.kornet21.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.43.28 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Cc: zachw@email.sjsu.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32636 In <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> "Zach Wilkinson" wrote: > I'm attempting to install 3.3 for Intel on PCI/IDE systems. After it loads > the device drivers diskette, it present me with two lists of SCSI > controllers. No IDE drivers are available for selection. I've tried three > different systems; 430FX chipset, 430TX chipset, and 440BX chipset. All > with one HD in the primary/master position, and a CDROM in the > secondary/master position. You should connect CD-ROM in the Primary/Slave because there is no driver to support dual EIDE, in other words, both Primary and Secondary EIDE port that could be used when installing NEXTSTEP 3.3. -- "Where there is a will, there is a way" Seung-joo Lee feelfree@ppp.kornet21.net (NeXTmail Prefered!) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!usc!newshub.csu.net!not-for-mail From: "Zach Wilkinson" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: 3.3/intel doesn't detect ide (part 2) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:24:53 -0800 Organization: CSUnet Lines: 17 Message-ID: <77g0gj$s2o$1@hades.csu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ntw01.engr.sjsu.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32637 I appreciate everyones responses. I tried the "dummy driver" method, that did give me the IDE choices and I selected the >540MB driver. However, I believe I ran into the problem where the secondary channel is not supported because it asked where was the CD drive. I also tried the beta floppy image. I uncompressed it on a AIX system, wrote it to diskette using rawrite3 on Win95. But at the point where it asks for the drivers diskette, it says something to the affect of "invalid volume label magic" and that it can't read the superblock. When I formated the floppy, the format utility reported that there were zero bad sectors so I don't think it's a bad diskette. However, the uncompress image size was slightly over 1.44MB, maybe the entire image didn't get on the disk. Any thoughts? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!wesley.videotron.net!weber.videotron.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <369BA801.F63E5EA0@videotron.ca> From: Pierre-Michel Tremblay <@videotron.ca> Reply-To: @videotron.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Will RDR2 Run On an iMac. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 10 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:52:37 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.253.96.232 X-Complaints-To: abuse@videotron.net X-Trace: weber.videotron.net 916170759 207.253.96.232 (Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:52:39 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:52:39 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32638 Bonjour, I'm interested in knowing if RDR2 will run on my iMac before I try to make the partitionning. If so, what are good tips to know before I dig further? Thanks. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!wesley.videotron.net!weber.videotron.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <369BA990.1FAFAF0D@videotron.ca> From: Pierre-Michel Tremblay <@videotron.ca> Reply-To: @videotron.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: iMac with RDR2. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------24D6E4664967AD03258EA681" Lines: 37 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:59:12 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.253.96.232 X-Complaints-To: abuse@videotron.net X-Trace: weber.videotron.net 916171157 207.253.96.232 (Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:59:17 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:59:17 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32639 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------24D6E4664967AD03258EA681 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour, I would like to install RDR2 on my iMac. I would like to know if I could do it before I repartition my iMac disk. If so, do you have any good tips I could benefit from? Thanks. PM --------------24D6E4664967AD03258EA681 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name=".vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Pierre-Michel Tremblay Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=".vcf" begin:vcard n:Tremblay;Pierre-Michel tel;fax:514-994-4384 tel;work:514-992-2382 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;5228, ave Casgrain;Montréal;QC;H2T 1W9;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:tremblay_michel@videotron.ca x-mozilla-cpt:;1 fn:Pierre-Michel Tremblay end:vcard --------------24D6E4664967AD03258EA681-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: iMac with RDR2. Date: 12 Jan 1999 20:17:31 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 17 Message-ID: <77gakr$e7c$1@news.digifix.com> References: <369BA990.1FAFAF0D@videotron.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: <369BA990.1FAFAF0D@videotron.ca> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32640 >I would like to install RDR2 on my iMac. I would like to know if I >could do it before I repartition my iMac disk. If so, do you have any >good tips I could benefit from? Don't bother trying.. RDR2 doesn't install on any of the currently shipping machines. You'll have to wait for CR1 -- Scott Anguish Stepwise - OpenStep/Rhapsody Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.59.152.222!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news-in-east1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.cuny.edu!acs2.byu.edu!not-for-mail From: smithwNOSPAM@tankNO.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: iMac with RDR2. Date: 12 Jan 1999 13:54:39 -0700 Organization: Brigham Young University Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: <369BA990.1FAFAF0D@videotron.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: tank.math.byu.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32641 >install RDR2 on imac? No, it won't work. Possibly mosxs, but that is not known yet. -- Bill Smith, BYU mathematics dept. ph. 378-2061, fax 378-3703 email: smithwNOSPAM@NOSPAM.math.byu.edu Remove NOSPAM for legitimate mail #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!jupiter.NIC.DTAG.DE!news.online.de!not-for-mail!thomas From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:40:38 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Lines: 19 Sender: thomas@news.online.de (thomas) Message-ID: <1999Jan12.124038.604@news.online.de> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> Reply-To: thf@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pc19f12c4.dip.t-online.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Server-Date: 12 Jan 1999 15:19:33 GMT Cc: gtf[@]cirp.org X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32642 In Geoffrey T. Falk wrote: > out that I had hired a programmer to write code in C under Unix (or > even Windows), who produced code in the late-20th century dates in > 2-digit format, he'd be out of a job real fast. I can't think of a more > obvious programming idiocy. > "People are idiots" (Scott Adams, author of "Dilbert") There is a lot of software produced in the 80ies and 90ies which is not Y2K compliant. Just to name a few: SAP, Solaris before version 7, Windows-98/NT ..... -- Java: Write once, debug anywhere #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 3.3/intel doesn't detect ide (part 2) Date: 13 Jan 1999 14:48:07 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 30 Message-ID: <77ibn7$2ar$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <77g0gj$s2o$1@hades.csu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mathstat.unl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32643 In article <77g0gj$s2o$1@hades.csu.net> "Zach Wilkinson" writes: > I appreciate everyones responses. > > I tried the "dummy driver" method, that did give me the IDE choices and I > selected the >540MB driver. However, I believe I ran into the problem where > the secondary channel is not supported because it asked where was the CD > drive. that's the old/wrong driver, which only supports channel 1, and NOT ATAPI devices. It won't work. > I also tried the beta floppy image. I uncompressed it on a AIX system, > wrote it to diskette using rawrite3 on Win95. But at the point where it > asks for the drivers diskette, it says something to the affect of > "invalid volume label magic" and that it can't read the superblock. > Any thoughts? Try again with another floppy? Maybe try re-downloading the floppy image? I've never had to do this, because we've always had ample other nextstep/openstep boxes around so that I could easily create driver disks when I needed them. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news.seicom.net!news.ndh.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 3.3/intel doesnt't detect ide Date: 13 Jan 1999 14:52:45 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 36 Message-ID: <77ibvt$2b4$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <77fu27$q9m$2@news.kornet.nm.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: mathstat.unl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32644 In article <77fu27$q9m$2@news.kornet.nm.kr> "Seung-joo Lee" writes: > In <77db7h$mrj$1@hades.csu.net> "Zach Wilkinson" wrote: > > > I'm attempting to install 3.3 for Intel on PCI/IDE systems. After it > > loads the device drivers diskette, it present me with two lists of SCSI > > controllers. No IDE drivers are available for selection. I've tried > > three different systems; 430FX chipset, 430TX chipset, and 440BX > > chipset. All with one HD in the primary/master position, and a CDROM > > in the secondary/master position. > You should connect CD-ROM in the Primary/Slave because there is no driver > to support dual EIDE, in other words, both Primary and Secondary EIDE > port that could be used when installing NEXTSTEP 3.3. This is incorrect. There IS a driver that supports dual EIDE, the latest (beta) version from NeXTanswers, version 3.37: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1839.htmld/1839.html Towards the end of the document, I quote: New Driver / Update Description: Use the following installation instructions when installing from a CD-ROM drive connected to the secondary EIDE controller: 1. Select Primary/Secondary(Dual) EIDE and ATAPI Device Controllers as the hard disk driver. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news-nyc.telia.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!hammer.msfc.nasa.gov!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Sender: RajLamba@aol.com Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov Subject: cmsg cancel <04019921.1453@aol.com> Control: cancel <04019921.1453@aol.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: hammer.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: http://www.msfc.nasa.gov Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:03:16 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Orig-Path: newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.idt.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!netnews.com!news.megsinet.net!aol.com X-Orig-Subject: Pent II 300 system 45338 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.81.229.131 X-Cancel-ID: =&D(]S)%,&?N'S&Q8W;JD*29."=B=6"7'D]AX9.F&L#4R6A7DJ60QTY_ Lines: 2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5663834 Canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!cnn.nas.nasa.gov!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!not-for-mail From: sumit@omni.cc.purdue.edu (Sumitrajit Dhar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Remote mounting removable disk Date: 13 Jan 1999 11:35:02 -0500 Organization: Purdue University Lines: 15 Distribution: World Message-ID: <77ihvm$pp0@omni.cc.purdue.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: omni.cc.purdue.edu X-Trace: mozo.cc.purdue.edu 916245301 13653 128.210.10.14 (13 Jan 1999 16:35:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@mozo.cc.purdue.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Jan 1999 16:35:01 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32645 Hi: I have two B&W NeXT slabs running NS3.3. A syjet drive is mounted on machine A at /dev/sd2a as /b. I want to mount this drive to machine B which is networked to machine A. In fact the other drives on machine A are already nfs mounted on B. Pardon my ignorance here but when I try to mount the removable disk on B using: mount -o rw A:/b /b it returns an error message saying "no permission". What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance, Sumit #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!diablo.theplanet.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon-sf.pbi.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Calvin Mitchell" From: "Calvin Mitchell" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Multiple NeXT partitions on a single hard drive Lines: 4 Organization: R&D Laboratories, Inc. X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:32:56 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.215.160.46 X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: typhoon-sf.pbi.net 916263158 207.215.160.46 (Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:32:38 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:32:38 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32646 Why can't I create more than one partition on a single hard drive under Openstep 4.2/Mach (Intel)??? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Assigning user rights to directories Date: 13 Jan 1999 23:38:05 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 11 Message-ID: <77jaot$9jd$1@news.spacelab.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32647 "Calvin Mitchell" wrote: > IS there a way through the Workspace Manager to assign directory rights to > users other than the Terminal.app command line? Yup. Try Cmd-4 when you have things selected in the Workspace browser.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!bignews.mediaways.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Multiple NeXT partitions on a single hard drive Date: 13 Jan 1999 23:42:03 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 17 Message-ID: <77jb0b$9jd$2@news.spacelab.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32648 "Calvin Mitchell" wrote: > Why can't I create more than one partition on a single hard drive under > Openstep 4.2/Mach (Intel)??? Because OPENSTEP, like most other Unixes, can have up to 8 "slices" inside of an FDISK partition. The limitation is mostly because an Intel system needs to find an FDISK partition marked active in order to boot the system; if you are not booting from that drive, you don't have to bother with FDISK versus Unix partition tables.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newshub.northeast.verio.net!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon-sf.pbi.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Calvin Mitchell" From: "Calvin Mitchell" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Assigning user rights to directories Lines: 4 Organization: R&D Laboratories, Inc. X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:34:46 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.215.160.46 X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: typhoon-sf.pbi.net 916263268 207.215.160.46 (Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:34:28 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:34:28 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32649 IS there a way through the Workspace Manager to assign directory rights to users other than the Terminal.app command line? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon-sf.pbi.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Calvin Mitchell" From: "Calvin Mitchell" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <77jb0b$9jd$2@news.spacelab.net> Subject: Re: Multiple NeXT partitions on a single hard drive Lines: 33 Organization: R&D Laboratories, Inc. X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: <9Zan2.8621$kt3.71914@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:35:35 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.215.160.46 X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: typhoon-sf.pbi.net 916274117 207.215.160.46 (Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:35:17 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:35:17 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32650 The fact is: i can create multiple partitions on a single hard drive, but I can't get openstep to see them...is there a way around this? I don't want to have to reformat... Current config: 9.1GB Hard drive is cut up as-- NeXTStep partition: 2675MB Free Space: the rest. Charles W. Swiger wrote in message <77jb0b$9jd$2@news.spacelab.net>... >"Calvin Mitchell" wrote: >> Why can't I create more than one partition on a single hard drive under >> Openstep 4.2/Mach (Intel)??? > >Because OPENSTEP, like most other Unixes, can have up to 8 "slices" inside of >an FDISK partition. > >The limitation is mostly because an Intel system needs to find an FDISK >partition marked active in order to boot the system; if you are not booting >from that drive, you don't have to bother with FDISK versus Unix partition >tables.... > >-Chuck > > Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. > ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- > You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!not-for-mail From: beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu (James W. Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 14 Jan 1999 05:02:27 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Lines: 25 Message-ID: <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cmp-rs.music.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32651 I wrote: >> I thought surely a computer that came out in 1989 would have had the Y2K >> thing figured out! luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion wrote: >What? You are kidding right? Dallas Kincaid (dallas@xecu.net) wrote: > NextStep was way ahead of it's time in function and that is why it > remains today. I also would have thought that Steve Jobs, father of the Macintosh (which is said to have been Y2K OK from the start) and also father of the NeXT, would have known all along that Y2K should be a top priority. Mach Unix, from the ivory tower land of Carnegie-Mellon was (is) a highly tauted improved version of Unix. How could these towering minds have overlooked providing this level of generality in the case of the mighty NeXT, while the computer "for the rest of us" was OK all along? Maybe gnu will save us. If anyone gets a truly compliant patch of 3.x going, please let the rest of us know. Jim Beauchamp University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign j-beauch@uiuc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.ne.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Lines: 25 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:24:56 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.248.5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.ne.home.com 916291496 24.3.248.5 (Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:24:56 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:24:56 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32652 In <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> James W. Beauchamp wrote:- > I also would have thought that Steve Jobs, father of the Macintosh - Jef Raskin was the father of the Macintosh, Jobs merely stole the project from him, forcing Raskin out on the eve of the Mac's introduction, thus garnering all the credit/attention for himself. >and also father of the NeXT Jobs is quite gifted at self-promotion, I'm not aware of him ever doing anything in terms of design, other than perhaps picking out logos and color shemes. He has been able to surround himself with talented people through the years and has taken credit for the fruits of their labor. > would have known all along that Y2K should be a top priority. Mach Unix, > from the ivory tower land of Carnegie-Mellon was (is) a highly tauted > improved version of Unix. Actually, Mach isn't unix, Mach is a microkernel. NeXT was a BSD 4.3 based unix utilizing the Mach kernel, a monolithic Mach kernel at that. The Hurd also uses the Mach kernel, as does MOSXS. There are BSD and SVR4 based unices, and a host of unix-like operating systems, like linux, but you need to distinguish between what the difference is between the kernel and the base os. Mach is not unix, it's a kernel. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!wesley.videotron.net!weber.videotron.net.POSTED!jsfortier From: jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-Sébastien Fortier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Mail-Copies-To: jsfortier@videotron.ca Subject: AutoNfsMount Message-ID: Organization: ProMac X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 Lines: 11 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:51:43 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.253.93.30 X-Complaints-To: abuse@videotron.net X-Trace: weber.videotron.net 916293102 207.253.93.30 (Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:51:42 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:51:42 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32653 When I bootup my NeXT, I keep having the following error Moofo 12H50 autonfsmount: cant't get my address Anyone knows how to remove this message Why does it tells this ? ------------------------- Jean-Sebastien Fortier Technicien en systèmes Macintosh #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: AutoNfsMount Date: 14 Jan 1999 15:36:43 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 22 Message-ID: <77l2ub$g2h$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mathstat.unl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32654 In article jsfortier@videotron.ca (Jean-S bastien Fortier) writes: > When I bootup my NeXT, I keep having the following error > > Moofo 12H50 autonfsmount: cant't get my address > > > Anyone knows how to remove this message > > Why does it tells this ? It doesn't know it's own hostname. Either configure DNS, or add an entry to NetInfo: /machines/localhost, so that the name key has two entries: localhost -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon-sf.pbi.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Calvin Mitchell" From: "Calvin Mitchell" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <77jaot$9jd$1@news.spacelab.net> Subject: Re: Assigning user rights to directories Lines: 21 Organization: R&D Laboratories, Inc. X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: <5Yon2.9073$kt3.78014@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:30:08 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.215.163.27 X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: typhoon-sf.pbi.net 916331393 207.215.163.27 (Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:29:53 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:29:53 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32655 I'm familiar with that tool... but what if a create a user ('compiler', for instance) and i create a directory as root that i want 'compiler' to have rights to? Charles W. Swiger wrote in message <77jaot$9jd$1@news.spacelab.net>... >"Calvin Mitchell" wrote: >> IS there a way through the Workspace Manager to assign directory rights to >> users other than the Terminal.app command line? > >Yup. Try Cmd-4 when you have things selected in the Workspace browser.... > >-Chuck > > Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. > ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- > You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon-sf.pbi.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Calvin Mitchell" From: "Calvin Mitchell" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Openstep Newbie: Telnet Issue Lines: 23 Organization: R&D Laboratories, Inc. X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:33:32 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.215.163.27 X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: typhoon-sf.pbi.net 916331598 207.215.163.27 (Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:33:18 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:33:18 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32656 I can't telnet to my Openstep 4.2/Mach/Intel server as root, though I can as any other user. the output i get: ============================================== NeXT Mach (nextpii) (ttyp0) login: root root login refused on this terminal. login: ============================================= Thanks for your help... Calvin Mitchell, IS Operations Mgr., R&D Laboratories, Inc. calvin.mitchell@rndlabs.com http://www.rndlabs.com cal_mitc@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/cal_mitc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 14 Jan 1999 17:28:06 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 36 Message-ID: <77l9f6$d3j$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32657 beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu (James W. Beauchamp) wrote: [ ... ] > I also would have thought that Steve Jobs, father of the Macintosh (which > is said to have been Y2K OK from the start) and also father of the NeXT, > would have known all along that Y2K should be a top priority. Huh? The first time I remember hearing of Y2K in the sense of "this is a major problem and we need to make sure our systems work" was around '95... > Mach Unix, from the ivory tower land of Carnegie-Mellon was (is) a highly > tauted improved version of Unix. No ivory towers at CMU, unfortunately-- they've always employed architecture alums to design their buildings. Secondly, Mach is a "highly tauted [sic] improved version of the Unix _kernel_". Mach isn't comparible to Unix, and most probably does not have Y2K problems given the way the system tracks time internally (as in, "seconds from epoch"). > How could these towering minds have overlooked providing this level of > generality in the case of the mighty NeXT, while the computer "for the > rest of us" was OK all along? Probably because the MacOS never inherited a 2-digit /bin/date from earlier versions of BSD 4.3 Unix the way NeXT did. There probably isn't too much more to NEXTSTEP's Y2K non-compliance than that, although the ctime() family of calls and Preferences.app (because it depends on /bin/date, IIRC) also at risk. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!newsfeed01.btx.dtag.de!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!news-rly-1.sprintlink.net!news-east1.sprintlink.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Multiple NeXT partitions on a single hard drive Date: 14 Jan 1999 17:30:53 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 11 Message-ID: <77l9kd$d3j$2@news.spacelab.net> References: <77jb0b$9jd$2@news.spacelab.net> <9Zan2.8621$kt3.71914@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32658 "Calvin Mitchell" wrote: > The fact is: i can create multiple partitions on a single hard drive, but > I can't get openstep to see them...is there a way around this? Multiple FDISK partitions? Not as far as I know. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Openstep Newbie: Telnet Issue Date: 14 Jan 1999 17:48:34 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 27 Message-ID: <77lali$d3j$5@news.spacelab.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32659 "Calvin Mitchell" wrote: >I can't telnet to my Openstep 4.2/Mach/Intel server as root, though I can >as any other user. > >the output i get: > >============================================== >NeXT Mach (nextpii) (ttyp0) > >login: root >root login refused on this terminal. >login: > ============================================= The recommended way is to log in as another user and then su. This gives better accounting and security because of the log message generated by su. However, if you want to log in remotely as root and do not care about security, you can add the "secure" keyword to the various network tty's in the /etc/ttys file. A much better choice would be to install and use ssh & sshd, however. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: J.-U. Thieme Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Multiple NeXT partitions on a single hard drive Date: 14 Jan 1999 20:43:28 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Lines: 57 Message-ID: <77lktg$ofv$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <77jb0b$9jd$2@news.spacelab.net> <9Zan2.8621$kt3.71914@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> Reply-To: J.-U. Thieme NNTP-Posting-Host: barrier-17.charite.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Cc: cal_mitc@pacbell.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32660 In <9Zan2.8621$kt3.71914@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> "Calvin Mitchell" wrote: > The fact is: i can create multiple partitions on a single hard drive, but I > can't get openstep to see them...is there a way around this? > > I don't want to have to reformat... > > Current config: > > 9.1GB Hard drive is cut up as-- > NeXTStep partition: 2675MB > Free Space: the rest. > > Openstep can only use 1 fdisk-partition. You can use the disk-command for partitioning a disk <= 2 GByte. When you install a new OS then the installprogram create x partitions (unix-part.), all smaller then 2 GByte, max. 7 (device /dev/sd0a ../dev/sd0g) * 2 Gbyte = 14 GByte. You can use the /etc/disktab file for modify the default spliting. Here a example : # IBM DDRS 34560W with three partitions IBM DDRS-34560:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#8387:nt#5:ns#218:ss#512:rm#7200:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#2097152:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#2097152:sb#4194304:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#1:ob=space:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD:\ :pc#6291456:sc#2633000:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#32:dc#4096:rc#1:oc=space:\ :ic:tc=4.3BSD: The problem comes, when you will install another operatingsystem on the same harddisk. Then you can only use one partition for OS <= 2 GByte. CIAO JUT -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 58062 - - fax: +49 30 450 58904 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - -------------------------------------------------------------- - "I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no - - problem with their success, they've earned their success - - ...for the most part -- I have a problem with the fact - - that they just make really third-rate products." - - - - Steven Paul Jobs - -------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Assigning user rights to directories Date: 14 Jan 1999 17:40:31 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 14 Message-ID: <77la6f$d3j$4@news.spacelab.net> References: <77jaot$9jd$1@news.spacelab.net> <5Yon2.9073$kt3.78014@typhoon-sf.pbi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32661 "Calvin Mitchell" wrote: > I'm familiar with that tool... > > but what if a create a user ('compiler', for instance) and i create a > directory as root that i want 'compiler' to have rights to? Oh...there's no GUI wrapper for chown that I'm familiar with. It would be really easy to write one, though. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: daj@nwu.edu (David A.Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PCNFS Anyone? [I need help!] Date: 14 Jan 1999 22:50:08 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 29 Message-ID: <77lsb0$n7@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: reuben.feinberg.nwu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35195 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32662 I've got an old NeXTstation with an old Next printer. I also have an old PC (running DOS 3.3) that has sun PCNFS on it. (Bunch of old junk isn't it) I've got all the networking up and going. The problem is that I'm trying to configure the NeXT printer to do screen prints from the PC. I've got the printer mounted as lpt1: and I've got communications but I get postscript errors. Does anyone know of what needs to be done to fix this? I've tried configuring the pcnfs (pc side) as raw and postscript both with no luck. I think I need some sort of filter on the server side but I'm not sure. I know it can be done because many years ago I saw this exact combination (when both were new). The old PC is a propriatary system for data acquisition and the advantage of the old NeXT printers is that their still very fast little devils, thus why I'm trying to put the two together. Thank's in advance, -- David A. Johnson email: daj@nwu.edu Manager Computer Facility and Engineering Phone: (312) 503-0408 Feinberg Research Institute, Fax: (312) 503-0137 Northwestern University HAM call: N9HAM #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!netnews.com!feed2.nntp.acc.ca!feed.nntp.acc.ca!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!tor-nn1.netcom.ca.POSTED!Mertz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dlingman@netcom.ca (Dan Lingman) Subject: Why Can't I talk to my serial ports? Organization: Digital Matrix X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Lines: 17 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:29:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.146.133.87 X-Complaints-To: abuse@netcom.ca X-Trace: tor-nn1.netcom.ca 916345911 209.146.133.87 (Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:31:51 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:31:51 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32663 I've got an intel box running 4.2 U+D. I'm trying to get it to talk PPP to my work, but I can't even get started. I've got a 28.8K external modem (USR sportster) hooked up to com 1. I've followed the steps in the ppp doc, and have added the right entries to /etc/remote. Tip (and cu), both report that I do not have a /dev/cua, which I clearly do. the config tool says it's there, and with the right irq/address range. Why can't the network tools see it? Help? Dan. dlingman@netcom.ca #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.northeast.verio.net!btnet-peer!btnet!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!server3.netnews.ja.net!spruce.sucs.soton.ac.uk!wapping.ecs.soton.ac.uk!dps96r From: dps96r@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Duncan Simpson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: PPP 2.2 - Authentication? Date: 15 Jan 1999 12:56:24 GMT Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton Lines: 23 Message-ID: <77ndto$rph@wapping.ecs.soton.ac.uk> References: <77b9ho$h50$1@baldur.egate.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: penelope.ecs.soton.ac.uk X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #5 (NOV) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32664 comp.os.linux.networking:157770 In <77b9ho$h50$1@baldur.egate.net> hocker@odin.egate.net (Matthew Hocker) writes: >I just joined bellatlantic.net, and surprise-surprise, no support for >UNIX systems. I used to dial into an ISP which supported a chat-like >login, but bellatlantic drops you right into ppp and expects you to authenticate >there. >My question: how do I set up pppd to authenticate in the ppp session, like >windows 98 does? Wait for CONNECT from then modem and then authenticate yourself using PAP. CHAP is better but clues about its existance and support could be lacking from their server software. (This might be because not all versions of windows can rise to that level of standards compliance and security). I have done this and it worked for me. Recently the service changed phone numbers and now uses Livingsdton portmasters which want a user name in respone to [Ll]ogin: and corresponding password in response to [Pp]assword: which my chat script supplies. After that they will happily speak LCP, CCP and IPCP to pppd on your linux box. Duncan (-: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news-in-east1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!nntp2.cerf.net!nntp3.cerf.net!news.san.rr.com!not-for-mail From: "Steve Biskis" Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Lines: 88 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:34:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.22.126 X-Trace: news.san.rr.com 916407240 204.210.22.126 (Fri, 15 Jan 1999 05:34:00 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 05:34:00 PDT Organization: TWC Road Runner, San Diego, CA Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32665 Hello all, Well, I certainly agree. I've read the one-pager from Apple concerning the NON-Y2K compliance of NeXTStep. I've sent them several e-mails asking for more detail and even offering assistance. (just for effect, I vigorously doubt they would actually require it) They do NOT respond. I guess that the purpose of Apple's NeXTStep Y2K page is to sell OpenStep and not to help us NeXTStep 3.3 users/developers. If I were you I wouldn't be as concerned with an 1989 OS (NeXTStep) not being Y2K compliant as I would with a late-90's OS (OpenStep). They still needed to create a Y2K patch for it !!! Not too smart. Short-sighted is Apple's last name now that NeXT has married them, its NeXT's as well !!! Well, I sifted some clues from Apple's web site (clues they NEVER intended) and was able to patch my Preferences App for both m68K and intel in one afternoon DESPITE them. I did this primarily with Gnu sources. I e-mailed them about my success and was again greeted with silence. I guess I don't mind the way NeXT/Apple continues get away with selling Gnu copyleft software as much as the way they insist on overtly breaking the very spirit on which it was founded. If you solve the Preferences patch as I did, you'll see exactly what I mean. Anyway, I can't help but figure that it would be a small matter for Apple to offer a Y2K patch for NeXTStep now that they've got one for OpenStep. With the understanding that your 3rd party Apps are up for grabs. It seems that the Y2K problems in the OS stem from the 2-digitness inherent in the mighty old Gnu unix utilities (date,atq,mail,etc) redeployed by NeXT long ago. They simply pillaged these sources and were not even motivated enough to make the Y2K modifications to add some value. i.e. put something back. They waited till now - using it as a migration stick. And that my friends is the ultimate irony - for NeXTStep users. Being forced into spending money to upgrade a commercial product because of modifications made to FREE SOFTWARE components within it !!! I'm not sure how many of us still cling to NS3.3 but I gotta believe that if there was enough bitching a patch might just pop-up out of nowhere. I'm so pissed at Apple right now that the only way I'll make my Preferences patch available is for a PIRATED copy of OPENSTEP 4.2 User&Developer. Its important that its PIRATED - not original, the CDs burned so that no $ were spent with Apple whatsoever !!! OK, just kidding, its free for the asking. ;} Steve B. mlx@san.rr.com James W. Beauchamp wrote in article <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>... > I just tried the date command on my NeXT Cube (NS 3.2) and was shocked > to discover that > > # date 0001101923 > > gives Sat Jan 10 19:23:00 PST 1970 > > '00' reverts us to 1970? How come? > > I thought surely a computer that came out in 1989 would have had the Y2K > thing figured out! > > Please tell me what solutions have been worked out. I don't want to have > to throw my NeXT away next January 1st as I still have lots of programs > that are working just fine for me! > > Jim Beauchamp > j-beauch@uiuc.edu > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!newsfeed01.btx.dtag.de!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!24.128.1.125!chnws03.mediaone.net!24.128.1.91!chnws02.mediaone.net!24.131.128.14!elnws02.ce.mediaone.net!24.131.129.73!rmnws01.ce.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <369E691A.9FE75D95@mediaone.net> From: "Eric A. Dubiel" Organization: Guess who?! ;-) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Looking for EOF 1.1 for nexstep 3.3 References: <77e08f$755$3@news.imaginet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 10 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:09:36 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.131.182.244 X-Trace: rmnws01.ce.mediaone.net 916351588 24.131.182.244 (Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:06:28 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:06:28 CDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32666 I have a copy for sale, and it's listed in comp.sys.next.marketplace -Eric latitude@imaginet.fr wrote: > > Sender latitude@imaginet.fr > > I am looking foe EOF 1.1 (Enterprise Objects Framework Release 1.1) if > someone still has it please let me know. Thank you #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server5.netnews.ja.net!news.york.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Why Can't I talk to my serial ports? Date: 15 Jan 1999 17:16:38 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Lines: 10 Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <77nt5m$if0$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nicecuppa.ohm.york.ac.uk X-Trace: pump1.york.ac.uk 916420598 18912 144.32.136.151 (15 Jan 1999 17:16:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@york.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jan 1999 17:16:38 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32667 dlingman@netcom.ca (Dan Lingman) writes: > /etc/remote. Tip (and cu), both report that I do not have a /dev/cua, which >I clearly do. I suspect you clearly *dont* - try using ls to see if that file exists. If the device is there but the file isn't then you need to isnatll the TTY port server (under misc) which causes the serial devices to appear as files in /dev -bat. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!jupiter.NIC.DTAG.DE!news.online.de!not-for-mail!thomas From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:37:34 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Lines: 15 Sender: thomas@news.online.de (thomas) Message-ID: <1999Jan15.173734.391@news.online.de> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> Reply-To: thf@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pc19f10a7.dip.t-online.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Server-Date: 15 Jan 1999 17:01:51 GMT Cc: mlx@san.rr.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32668 In <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> "Steve Biskis" wrote: > > It seems that the Y2K problems in the OS stem from the 2-digitness > inherent in the mighty old Gnu unix utilities (date,atq,mail,etc) > redeployed No, these are not GNU utils, they are utils from old BSD sources. And except for the date command, the other commands still work after 2000. atq prints a funny date (I think it was 1910), but who really cares ? -- Java: Write once, debug anywhere #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.210.0.20!news.san.rr.com!not-for-mail From: "Steve Biskis" Subject: NS3.3 Y2K Preferences Patch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Message-ID: <01be40c9$677222d0$080216c0@newt> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Lines: 2241 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:55:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.22.126 X-Trace: news.san.rr.com 916433734 204.210.22.126 (Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:55:34 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:55:34 PDT Organization: TWC Road Runner, San Diego, CA Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32669 comp.sys.next.software:35197 comp.sys.next.misc:29212 comp.sys.next.programmer:30256 Hello All, There has been sufficient interest to the point where I'd better post this: Patch for Preferences under NeXTSTEP 3.3 I modified the Gnu sh-utils-1.16 date source to recognize Preference's "proprietary" set command format. date automatically differentiates the Prefs call from the standard set format so that all the other options should still work as advertised by --usage. Here's what to do: 1> Make sure that you are root . 2> cd to /usr/lib/Preferences . 3> PLEASE backup the date utility that is now there by say, mv date.Y1.9K or something . 4> Now copy the new date utility to /usr/lib/Preferences and watch Preferences forge ahead into the future. 5> Don't forget to replace the one in /bin as well ... I haven't messed around with any of the other problem utilities. With the possible exception of nroff/troff, I don't use any of them directly. I'm not at all sure how problematic they could prove to be in their current state. But what I'm most concerned about is what may still lay undiscovered due to lack of interest on Apple's part. I'm guessing that the only problems mentioned for NeXTSTEP are those that were found while scurrying to rescue OpenStep !!! Maybe there are no additional NS-specific problems to worry about but due to Apple's lack of support - who knows? If anybody out there discovers any new NS3.3 Y2K problems or solutions PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE respond in kind. Lets not get beat by this - we've still got time !!! da bisk P.S. 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Unke (thf00@hotmail.com) wrote: : In <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> "Steve Biskis" wrote: : > : > It seems that the Y2K problems in the OS stem from the 2-digitness : > inherent in the mighty old Gnu unix utilities (date,atq,mail,etc) : > redeployed : No, these are not GNU utils, they are utils from old BSD sources. And except : for the date command, the other commands still work after 2000. atq prints a : funny date (I think it was 1910), but who really cares ? Does anybody know something about rdate? A server running "in the future' is needed? --mj #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!newspeer1.nac.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!192.52.106.6!ncar!dob From: dob@mrd3.mmm.ucar.edu (David Blanchard,,,) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 15 Jan 1999 20:54:10 GMT Organization: NOAA/NSSL, Boulder, Colorado Lines: 17 Message-ID: <77o9ti$gf6$1@ncar.ucar.edu> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> <1999Jan15.173734.391@news.online.de> <77o8t7$9ti$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: mrd3.nssl.ucar.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32671 In article <77o8t7$9ti$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > >Does anybody know something about rdate? A server running "in the >future' is needed? Try $rdate y2k-test.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov It will give you the correct month, day, hour, and minute, but the year is +2 years forward. -db- -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | David Blanchard NOAA/NSSL & OU/CIMMS Boulder, Colorado | | blanch@ucar.edu http://mrd3.nssl.ucar.edu/~dob/www/ | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!bignews.mediaways.net!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.xnet.com!newsgate.mot.com!newshost.mot.com!nntp.cig.mot.com!not-for-mail From: "Brent A. Peterson" <\\bap9\\@\\my-dejanews.com\\> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:39:43 -0600 Organization: -- Lines: 17 Message-ID: <77o92f$pgk3@nntp.cig.mot.com> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> <1999Jan15.173734.391@news.online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: me666.ecg.csg.mot.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32672 "Thomas F. Unke" wrote: > > In <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> "Steve Biskis" wrote: > > > > > It seems that the Y2K problems in the OS stem from the 2-digitness > > inherent in the mighty old Gnu unix utilities (date,atq,mail,etc) > > redeployed > > No, these are not GNU utils, they are utils from old BSD sources. And except > for the date command, the other commands still work after 2000. atq prints a > funny date (I think it was 1910), but who really cares ? does it only print it but use the correct date? I care since I do use at, if it works I can live with whatever it may print in atq #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!blackbush.xlink.net!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> <1999Jan15.173734.391@news.online.de> Lines: 9 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:30:23 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.39.29 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 916435823 24.4.39.29 (Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:30:23 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:30:23 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32673 Any ideas where to find source for y2k-compliant at, atq, atrun? Thanks, JP -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!bignews.mediaways.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!nntp2.cerf.net!nntp3.cerf.net!news.san.rr.com!not-for-mail From: "Steve Biskis" Subject: Re: NS3.3 Y2K Preferences Patch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer References: <01be40c9$677222d0$080216c0@newt> Message-ID: <01be40d0$3751b730$080216c0@newt> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Lines: 7 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:44:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.22.126 X-Trace: news.san.rr.com 916436647 204.210.22.126 (Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:44:07 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:44:07 PDT Organization: TWC Road Runner, San Diego, CA Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32674 comp.sys.next.software:35198 comp.sys.next.misc:29213 comp.sys.next.programmer:30258 Sorry, I neglected to state that this binary version of date is DUAL-FAT: i386 & m68k arch's Take Care, da bisk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> Lines: 31 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:22:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.39.29 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 916438947 24.4.39.29 (Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:22:27 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:22:27 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32675 Here's a strange thing that happened while testing my NS 3.3 disk for Y2K: I replaced /usr/lib/Preferences/date with the one from peak, and then used Preferences.app to test it (set the date to 31DEC99 and let it roll through to Jan 01 2000, worked fine). Then I set the date back to 15 Jan 98, and about two minutes later rebooted, (but this time booted the machine with a disk running OS 4.2) and logged in. The date was still Jan 01 2000. So I used Preferences.app to reset the date back to Jan 15 1998. A couple minutes later I moved a few files to the recycler. This worked (recycler icon arrows rotated, and the files moved to .NextTrash), but no dot appeared in the reycler icon, and the Workspace menu item Files-->Empty Recycler was grayed out and did not work, even though the files were in .NextTrash. I logged out and logged back in (no reboot, just log out/in), and everything worked fine: on login the recycler icon had the dot, and the Empty Recycler menu item was dark text. Any ideas? Thanks, JP -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!newspeer1.nac.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:04:49 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 12 Message-ID: <77ohia$53c$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77l9f6$d3j$1@news.spacelab.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.120.5.130 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Jan 15 23:04:49 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.05 [en] (Win95; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x13.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 163.120.5.130 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32676 I set my (Black Hardware) clock to 30 seconds to midnight Dec 31, 1999 last year and it just flipped up to 2000. Some of the software may be buggy but my guess is that the NeXT's are y2k compliant. The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!isdnet!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Openstep Newbie: Telnet Issue X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <77lali$d3j$5@news.spacelab.net> Lines: 8 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:54:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.39.29 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 916444487 24.4.39.29 (Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:54:47 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:54:47 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32677 Where are sources for ssh & sshd? Thanks, JP -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Openstep Newbie: Telnet Issue Date: 16 Jan 1999 00:59:12 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 23 Message-ID: <77oo90$kqp$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <77lali$d3j$5@news.spacelab.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32678 no.spam.please@no.spam.period wrote: >Where are sources for ssh & sshd? ftp://ftp.cs.hut.fi/pub/ssh Note that ssh-1.x is freely available for Unix (well, pretty much, I don't think you can bundle it with a commercial product) but ssh-2 requires licensing for commercial usage. There's a web site at www.ssh.fi offering lots of information, FAQs, and support and commerical usage licensing for ssh-2, if you want to buy it as a product. Also, people in the USA will probably need to compile using the RSAREF library because of RSA's patents, which then involves it's own licensing implications for commercial vs. non-commercial usage. And, of course, you have to watch out for the ITAR export regulations (or whatever the current incarnation of them is called nowadays) on strong encryption since ssh by default uses something like 768 to 1024 bit cryptography. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!any.msu.ru!news.orc.ru!not-for-mail From: mamax@mail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: test Date: 16 Jan 99 08:28:23 +-0300 Organization: Online Resource Center Lines: 3 Message-ID: <8d50.7727.5a@trhwr> Reply-To: mamax@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 06.hq-3.dialup.orc.ru X-Trace: boss.nc.orc.ru 916464506 15137 212.48.131.22 (16 Jan 1999 05:28:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.orc.ru NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 1999 05:28:26 GMT content-length: 21 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32679 http://lba.da.ru/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!blackbush.xlink.net!renate.komtel.net!not-for-mail!thomas From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:33:55 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Lines: 12 Message-ID: <1999Jan16.013355.1539@news.online.de> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01be408b$bf2d4740$080216c0@newt> <1999Jan15.173734.391@news.online.de> <77o92f$pgk3@nntp.cig.mot.com> Reply-To: thf@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.7.132.38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: renate.komtel.net 916483154 26063 212.7.132.38 (16 Jan 1999 10:39:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@renate.komtel.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 1999 10:39:14 GMT Cc: \\bap9\\@\\my-dejanews.com\\ X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32680 In <77o92f$pgk3@nntp.cig.mot.com> "Brent A. Peterson" wrote: > > for the date command, the other commands still work after 2000. atq prints a > > funny date (I think it was 1910), but who really cares ? > > does it only print it but use the correct date? "atq" prints the wrong year. "at" works still fine (have tested it recently). -- Java: Write once, debug anywhere #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!isdnet!news-ge.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!gate.news.unisource.nl!news.wxs.nl!not-for-mail From: "asb67" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: which nwsgrp do I need Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:58:03 +0100 Organization: World Access / Planet Internet Lines: 5 Message-ID: <77pv8o$f8u$2@reader2.wxs.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: asd0049-1.dial.wxs.nl X-Trace: reader2.wxs.nl 916488280 15646 195.121.84.49 (16 Jan 1999 12:04:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wxs.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 1999 12:04:40 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32681 which nwsgrp do I need for Info about financial adminstration software? Thanks JL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!howland.erols.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NetInfo Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:13:33 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 20 Message-ID: <77oi2l$5bu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.120.5.130 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Jan 15 23:13:33 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.05 [en] (Win95; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x13.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 163.120.5.130 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32682 In more then one vain attempt to mout the files on one of my NeXT computers as files on my other NeXT I have NetInfo has locked me out of my root directory or mounted the root device as read only or some other very rude thing. Can I disablt NetInfo and just run NFS? If so is there more to mounting the remote filesystems then entering the host in the hosts file and using NFSManger to mount the files other computer's files. Any thoughts? Jon The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!not-for-mail From: Sharon Palmer Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:08:41 +0000 Organization: WOSU Lines: 18 Message-ID: <36A0E3B5.327@osu.edu> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77l9f6$d3j$1@news.spacelab.net> Reply-To: palmer.74@osu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ts25-16.homenet.ohio-state.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32683 Charles W. Swiger wrote: > > Huh? The first time I remember hearing of Y2K in the sense of "this is a > major problem and we need to make sure our systems work" was around '95... Lots of people are just short sighted and want to believe that everyone else is short sighted too. My first programming job was in '75, and we added a pivot date to handle centuries in all the code we touched. But then one program I rewrote, the only existing listing was older than I was - last compiled in '52 no less. It had been though two source conversions and had holes patched in the object deck. Sharon Palmer #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: pekeler@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Pasteboard Problem Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:35:42 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 33 Message-ID: <77rpau$ndc$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.67 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Jan 17 03:56:21 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x9.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 206.148.46.67 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32684 Hi, I have a standalone OS4.2/Intel machine which is running fine. I set up a new user account for a relative who's a complete computer newbie. After several weeks of working with her account there appears a problem with the pasteboard server so that drag&drop and most applications refuse to launch anymore. The other user accounts are still working correctly. When the user with the broken account logs in she gets the following console output (clips): Dec 29 21:22:05 Workspace[244]: *** Error connecting to pasteboard: -102 Dec 29 21:22:06 Workspace[244]: *** Error connecting to pasteboard: -102 Dec 29 21:24:04 luck Mail[246]: An uncaught exception was raised Dec 29 21:24:04 luck Mail[246]: App Kit: Pasteboard Mach messaging error #-203, in (null pointer) Dec 29 21:26:07 Solitaire[435] AppKit Error: Can't connect to pbs. Maybe Public Window Server is not enabled on remote host? Also note: you can't NSHost 4.X apps to 3.X systems. Dec 29 21:26:16 luck Mail[438]: Assertion failed: App Kit error: Error messaging drag service Dec 29 21:35:31 Workspace[244]: *** Error connecting to pasteboard: -102 Dec 29 21:35:31 luck WM[244]: App Kit: Pasteboard Mach messaging error #-102, in _NXGetSession I have no idea what going on here, what caused this problem and how it could be fixed. The user is unable to tell me what she did last before the problem appeared. I cleaned the NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP defaults database of the user and set all files in the user's home read and writeable to the user. But these shots into the dark didn't help so I deleted the user and recreated it. Now, after several weeks the same problem appears again for the same account. Any ideas? Thanks, Christian -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.89.75.15!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <6325915944426@digifix.com> Date: 17 Jan 1999 04:45:19 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 327 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <306916549240@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:117663 comp.sys.next.announce:4876 comp.sys.next.hardware:35832 comp.sys.next.software:35206 comp.sys.next.misc:29215 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32685 comp.sys.next.bugs:5012 comp.sys.next.programmer:30265 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!news.kigam.re.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: [Q] I can't send email on my NeXTcomputer Date: 17 Jan 1999 13:10:30 GMT Organization: ppaiNews (http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai) Lines: 49 Message-ID: <77sng6$jan$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: co-h1-148.kornet.nm.kr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32686 Hello, I can't send email on my NeXTcomputer. But I can get any email also NeXTmail. As soon as send email on Mail.app I got following Returned mail: ============================================== Date: Sun, 17 Jan 99 17:52:52 +0900 From: NeXT Mail Agent Subject: Returned mail: Remote protocol error To: root ----- Transcript of session follows ----- While connected to soback.kornet.nm.kr: >>> MAIL From: <<< 550 ... invalid host name mycomputer 554 ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr... 554 Remote protocol error ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: by mycomputer.kornet.nm.kr (NX5.67f/NX3.0S) id AA00645; Sun, 17 Jan 99 17:52:56 +0900 Message-Id: <9901170852.AA00645@mycomputer.kornet.nm.kr> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: application/x-nextmail Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3J v130.3) X-Image-Url: http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/jpg/me2.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3J (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.130.3) Sender: Operator From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:52:52 +0900 To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Subject: test1 test ============================================== Somebody has know this kind problem? Any command help me. Thanx, younghonn KIL a.k.a, ppai. ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.maz.net!bignews.mediaways.net!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!netnews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.noc.cabal.int!erlenstar.ml.org!annihilator!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <8d50.7727.5a@trhwr> ignore no reply Control: cancel <8d50.7727.5a@trhwr> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:39:22 +0000 Sender: mamax@mail.com From: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk Organization: Annihilator v0.3 Approved: y X-Cancelled-By: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!any.msu.ru!news.orc.ru!not-for-mail X-Original-From: mamax@mail.com X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 06.hq-3.dialup.orc.ru X-Original-Subject: test X-Original-Date: 16 Jan 99 08:28:23 +-0300 X-Original-X-Trace: boss.nc.orc.ru 916464506 15137 212.48.131.22 (16 Jan 1999 05:28:26 GMT) X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 1999 05:28:26 GMT X-Cancel-ID: !>"_7`XAE1YEL(N29WK+ZC40[XP^4<5.E>"[PI>J^QIE0!^\;H'U?L40 Lines: 1 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5717736 Spam (EMP) cancelled. Cancel ID: !>"_7`XAE1YEL(N29WK+ZC40[XP^4<5.E>"[PI>J^QIE0!^\;H'U?L40 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!isdnet!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.concentric.net!masters0.news.internex.net!not-for-mail From: Jonathan Katz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Fast clock on mono slab? Date: 17 Jan 1999 18:59:56 GMT Organization: InterNex Information Services 1-800-595-3333 Lines: 15 Message-ID: <77tbvc$biq@masters0.InterNex.Net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.88.211.125 User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971102 (UNIX) (OpenBSD/2.4 (i386)) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32687 Howdy! The clock on my mono slab is quite quick. After resetting the time two days ago, and a few power up/downs, I find that it is now over 35 minutes fast. What's broken? Thanks! -Jon -- Jonathan Katz -- jkatz@cpio.net. -- CEO CPIO Networks -- http://www.cpio.net ---- http://www.openbsd.org -- "Your body is a temple. It is also your dance hall, your bowling alley, and your pizza parlor." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!worldfeed.news.gte.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!news.vanderbilt.edu!mandelbrot!riccardi From: John Riccardi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: get around EPROM password Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:05:38 -0600 Organization: Vanderbilt Univeristy usenet news server Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mandelbrot.acis.vanderbilt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: news.vanderbilt.edu 916635939 5940 129.59.1.60 (18 Jan 1999 05:05:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.vanderbilt.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 1999 05:05:39 GMT X-Sender: riccardi@mandelbrot Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32688 I bought two ColorTurbo slabs at a NASA surplus auction - $60 each including monitor, mouse & keyboard. I don't know *any* of the passwords and I was wondering if anyone knew how I can reset the EPROM password so I can boot from other media and reinstall Thanks John =============================================================================== John W. Riccardi | UNIX Systems Administrator | Vanderbilt University ACIS riccardi@mandelbrot.acis.vanderbilt.edu | 615/343-7760 If Micro$oft is the answer, then it must have been a stupid question. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-raspail.gip.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!sun4nl!212.206.254.3.MISMATCH!koza.nl.net!not-for-mail From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:32:39 GMT Organization: R&A Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: spike.rna.nl X-Trace: koza.nl.net 916641248 29026 195.109.36.82 (18 Jan 1999 06:34:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@nl.uu.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 1999 06:34:08 GMT X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82 [trh1]) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: localhost Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.programmer:30268 comp.sys.next.software:35212 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32689 I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. "Your io is pretty std" -- Larry Wall #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!diablo.theplanet.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!allstars.onestep.co.uk!not-for-mail From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Andrew Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:11:36 GMT Message-ID: <916654296.22458.0.nnrp-02.c30b1c0b@news.demon.co.uk> References: Reply-To: david@onestep.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: allstars.onestep.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: allstars.onestep.co.uk:195.11.28.11 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 916654296 nnrp-02:22458 NO-IDENT allstars.onestep.co.uk:195.11.28.11 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Lines: 10 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.programmer:30269 comp.sys.next.software:35213 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32690 In Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote: > I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better > newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? Umm, RadicalNews. Try http://www.radical.com/ -- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [Q] I can't send email on my NeXTcomputer Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:10:35 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 32 Message-ID: <77vpub$5tn$2@news.spacelab.net> References: <77sng6$jan$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32691 ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr wrote: >Hello, >I can't send email on my NeXTcomputer. >But I can get any email also NeXTmail. > >As soon as send email on Mail.app I got following Returned mail: > >============================================== >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 99 17:52:52 +0900 >From: NeXT Mail Agent >Subject: Returned mail: Remote protocol error >To: root > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >While connected to soback.kornet.nm.kr: >>>> MAIL From: ><<< 550 ... invalid host name mycomputer >554 ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr... 554 Remote protocol error Adjust /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf so that the mail system returns a valid hostname. Possibly the following might be correct: # set domain and canonical name Dmkornet.nm.kr Dwmycomputer Dj$w.$m -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:35:37 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 28 Message-ID: <77vrd9$644$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77l9f6$d3j$1@news.spacelab.net> <36A0E3B5.327@osu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.touch.net!news2.profi.net!pollution.skycache.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32692 Sharon Palmer wrote: >Charles W. Swiger wrote: >> >> Huh? The first time I remember hearing of Y2K in the sense of "this is >> a major problem and we need to make sure our systems work" was around >> '95... > > Lots of people are just short sighted and want to believe that everyone > else is short sighted too. I'm not quite sure who that remark was directed towards. As far as I can tell, the people who wrote NEXTSTEP were not responsible for creating a Y2K problem (with the possible exception of Preferences.app)...they just inherited minor problems from BSD 4.3. NSDate and related functionality from Foundation seem to handle the problem quite well. If you want to slam whoever wrote the 2-digit /bin/date for being short-sighted, fine. And yeah, the BSD-layer people at NeXT who did the system integration did not take adequate care to ship a Y2K-compliant /bin/date. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### From: Larry Gadallah Subject: Re: Esoteric OD question Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <36a19388.0@news.cadvision.com> <36A265BA.FD6FCC89@ncal.verio.com> Organization: 796001 Alberta Limited User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980818 ("Laura") (UNIX) (OpenBSD/2.3 (i386)) NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.91.93.178 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.91.93.178 Message-ID: <36a381e7.0@news.cadvision.com> Date: 18 Jan 1999 11:48:07 -0700 X-Trace: 18 Jan 1999 11:48:07 -0700, 209.91.93.178 Lines: 48 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.50.1.43 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.nyu.edu!nntp.cadvision.com!news.cadvision.com!gadallah.com!larry Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:35851 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32693 Mike Paquette wrote: > Larry Gadallah wrote: >> Does anyone know what the little fuse-like doohickey on the lower >> "deck" of the OD is? It looks like a instrumentation fuse, but flat > That's an operating hours recording device. There's a drop of > electrolyte in a mercury column. As an electric current passes through > the device (small, in microamps) the mercury gradually is electrolyzed > away on one side of the droplet, and precipitates out on the other, > effectively moving the droplet along the mercury column after several > thousand hours. > Your motor may indeed be shutting down on overtemperature. That's done > by the voltage regulator on one of the drive's PC boards. The drive has > to run in the case with full air flow across it to avoid the problem. > Check for a clogged filter or disconnected fan. > Mike Paquette Very cool, even if the drive isn't :-(. I am buffaloed by my problem. My original drive worked OK for 4 or 5 years, and now when I put in a disk, the motor spins up, and when the head goes to calibrate or seek, all there is is a sharp "click, click, click" instead of the more familiar "thunk, thunk, thunk" (technical, eh?). I bought another drive and after an hour or so, it began exhibiting the same problems. Now I've bought a third drive which seems to have failed, although in a different mode. I installed it , checked it out thoroughly with the diagnostics boot floppy, booted the OS and began recataloging my disks. 2/3 of the way through the second disk, the drive began to timeout and reset, but I could hear the motor struggling to get up to speed. It almost sounded like the power to the motor was becoming intermittent. Eventually the motor stopped altogether, and even after a couple of hours to cool, it still doesn't work. I'm getting to the point where I'm wondering if there's something wrong with the interface that keeps smoking these drives. I'm a little hesitant to put another one in, in case it blows too. Each time I changed drives, I've cleaned out the dust, washed the dust filter, checked the power supply voltages under load, etc. Is there any source of more detailed service information for these drives, depot level service, or even a collection of anecdotal data regarding keeping these old clunkers running? -- Larry Gadallah, VE6VQ larry@gadallah.com Calgary, Alberta www.gadallah.com/~larry Key fingerprint = D6 79 5D 9D 41 27 74 03 68 FD D7 F3 86 68 EB A5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!netnews.com!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!wesley.videotron.net!wagner.videotron.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Andre Lalonde" From: "Andre Lalonde" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: Subject: Re: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Lines: 21 Organization: Scribex Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:02:02 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.19.108.240 X-Complaints-To: abuse@videotron.net X-Trace: wagner.videotron.net 916693399 204.19.108.240 (Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:03:19 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:03:19 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.programmer:30270 comp.sys.next.software:35221 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32694 Take a look at NewsFlash (v.2.275). http://www.scribex.com/English/index.html (Requires NEXTSTEP 3.2 or higher or OPENSTEP 4.x for Mach.) -Andre =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D wrote in message news:F5q3uF.E01@RnA.nl... >I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better=20 >newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? > >--=20 >Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) >"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" >Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. > >"Your io is pretty std" -- Larry Wall #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!bignews.mediaways.net!news.ruhrgebiet.individual.net!lilly.ping.de!not-for-mail From: martin.mocker@lycosmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Q: mach_kernel - y2k OS 4.2 patch Date: 18 Jan 1999 22:02:12 GMT Organization: private Site Lines: 41 Message-ID: <780b14$t4e$2@lilly.ping.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: knopf.ping.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32695 Greetings to all of you, after following the Y2K thread in this group I decided to install the Y2K OS 4.2 patch on my NeXT Color Turbo (with OS 4.2 of course). Ok, so far so good. While installing the pkg Installer.app listed all the files that already exited on my HDD (of course - the have to be patched). But one file was not already on my HDD: /mach_kernel !!! I only had: black> ls -l /mach lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 9 Apr 18 1997 /mach -> $BOOTFILE@ black> ls -l /sdmach -r--r--r-- 3 root 832196 Apr 16 1997 /sdmach and after installing the patch, of course this mach_kernel file: -r--r--r-- 1 root 832256 Aug 7 00:14 /mach_kernel If this shall be the new Mach kernel do I have to copy it to /sdmach and overwrite this file (the size of the file mach_kernel suggest this somehow). Why did the machine run without the mach_kernel file since now ? Why do I need it now ? What to do with it ? The boot-process is startet with the command bsd()sdmach or sth. like that if that helps. Any hint to these questions is appreciated ! Have a nice day, best regards, Martin Mocker -- Martin Mocker martin.mocker@lycosmail.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: daj@nwu.edu (David A.Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] Configuring a NeXTprinter for a Samba service Date: 18 Jan 1999 23:19:26 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 24 Message-ID: <780fhu$m7v@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: reuben.feinberg.nwu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32696 comp.sys.next.software:35223 The old NeXTPrinters (video style printers) are so fast I'd like to continue to use them. I'm trying to configure a NeXTprinter (black hardware) to work with Samba. Does anyone know how I should configure the service in Samba and how (if necessary) I need to modify the printcap or Netinfo entries? BTW: I'm also trying to configure a NeXTprinter as client printer using PCNFS (on the client) if anyone happens to know the secret to this I'd appreciate it also. (The crazy thing is years ago both of these worked) Thank's in advance, -- David A. Johnson email: daj@nwu.edu Manager Computer Facility and Engineering Phone: (312) 503-0408 Feinberg Research Institute, Fax: (312) 503-0137 Northwestern University HAM call: N9HAM #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.ntr.net!remarQ60!supernews.com!news.idiom.com!idiom.com!deniseh From: Denise Howard Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help--goofy sendmail headers Date: 19 Jan 1999 01:33:00 GMT Organization: Remove capital letters to reply Lines: 32 Message-ID: <780ncc$p17$1@news.idiom.com> Reply-To: denisehAT@idiomDOT.com NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980117 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/2.2.6-STABLE (i386)) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32697 Background: I'm running NS 3.2 on a Turbo Color. A couple of folks have pointed out to me that when they receive personal e-mail from me, the "From:" header is whacked so they can't tell who it's from. I know next to nothing about sendmail, but it appears the problem is that the $g macro has incorrect info. Can someone tell me where to find the $g definition in my configuration so I can modify it? Here's a sample excerpt from the message header blob that someone received from me, so you can see what I'm talking about: >From Mailer-Daemon Mon Jan 18 13:38:43 1999 >Return-Path: ... >From: Denise Howard <> >Reply-To: deniseh@idiom.com The relevant line in my sendmail.mailhost.cf (and sendmail.subsidiary.cf) files looks like this: # UNIX header format DlFrom $g $d # format of a total name Dq$?x$x $.<$g> These should be the generic definitions, original to my installation. But the definition for $g is not in these files. Thanks for any help! Denise #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news-in-east1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!interpath.net!phenix From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:16:42 -0500 Organization: phenix@interpath.com Lines: 11 Message-ID: <1dlukkz.egsx6n17w623bN@roxboro0-027.dyn.interpath.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: roxboro0-027.dyn.interpath.net X-Face: $!7l?58&Lro>GQtr;A/P^'38=7{P[jPy/?JF*m`Z2&~@3:P3L81Sa7RQ=Y~o| ?'D1cB]L9V=\OS(\8S,5 Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-FAQs-Read: perl, pascal.mac User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.programmer:30271 comp.sys.next.software:35224 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32698 wrote: > I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better > newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? Go to which has links to both mac and openstep newsreaders (including one to a latter version of Alexandra than the one you are using). -- John Moreno #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!diablo.theplanet.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news.idiom.com!idiom.com!deniseh From: Denise Howard Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help--goofy sendmail headers Date: 19 Jan 1999 04:06:14 GMT Organization: Remove capital letters to reply Lines: 3 Message-ID: <7810bm$8f3$1@news.idiom.com> References: <780ncc$p17$1@news.idiom.com> Reply-To: denisehAT@idiomDOT.com NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980117 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/2.2.6-STABLE (i386)) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32699 I should've also mentioned that I'm running standalone, not on a network. Denise #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-peer.gip.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <781lcl$r4p$4184@news-1.news.gte.net> Control: cancel <781lcl$r4p$4184@news-1.news.gte.net> Date: 19 Jan 1999 10:10:50 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: elsefjseled@lesjdflesjd.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!worldfeed.news.gte.net!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: *Pamela Lee & Bret Michaels Sex Video X-Original-Date: 19 Jan 1999 10:05:09 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust42.tnt1.lax3.da.uu.net X-Original-From: elsefjseled@lesjdflesjd.com X-CosmoTraq: 9?A%U(]2"5H$0$29PZH8EE)AWWUY".$W?6OF14]0:J)7.0[D-=89E7QE X-Cancel-ID: 0/R/SDI=!^Z!Z[I6!QJ/&7`LO_YZC3<>L1OJAC=*OTF@7.\NJKUG3N%+ X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5737195 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news-zh.switch.ch!news.ifi.unizh.ch!news.rhein-neckar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.embl-heidelberg.de!not-for-mail From: nilges@wallaby.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Michael Nilges) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] driver for tft screen Date: 19 Jan 1999 08:01:07 GMT Organization: EMBL Heidelberg Lines: 14 Message-ID: <781e43$b0b$1@beta.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: wallaby.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de X-Trace: beta.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE 916732867 11275 192.54.41.135 (19 Jan 1999 08:01:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@embl-heidelberg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Jan 1999 08:01:07 GMT Keywords: openstep, tft Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:35862 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32700 Does anybody know if there is a driver for one of the tft screens for OpenStep 4.2 on Intel? I could not find anything on NextAnswers. Thanks in advance Michael. ----------------------------------------------- Michael Nilges EMBL Tel: +49 6221 387528 Meierhofstr. 1 Fax: +49 6221 387517 D-69117 Heidelberg ----------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!global-news-master From: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: 4.2 as mail / name server setup question Date: 20 Jan 1999 00:44:42 PST Organization: Caffeine Software Lines: 20 Message-ID: <78451q$166@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.220.45.192 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32701 Hi there, so I got this job to set up a 4.2 (Intel) box to be a mail server for a domain (no, not caffeinesoft :-)). It would be registered as the primary mail server for DOMAIN.org, and also should resolve all name questions for DOMAIN.org. Where do I need to start to get my machine fully configured as mail / name server? I would like to have things like mail bounce when it's sent to a non-existing (non-aliased) address@DOMAIN.org, etc. Any suggestions will be entertained. Thanks, - Stan -- Nature Travelogues: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~stanj/Travel NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com #################################################################### From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Q: mach_kernel - y2k OS 4.2 patch Date: 19 Jan 99 08:45:27 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <780b14$t4e$2@lilly.ping.de> In-reply-to: martin.mocker@lycosmail.com's message of 18 Jan 1999 22:02:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.79.56.105 X-Trace: 20 Jan 1999 04:59:48 -0500, 209.79.56.105 X-Authenticated-User: shess Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!howland.erols.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!dca1-feed1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.one.net!209.79.56.105 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32702 In article <780b14$t4e$2@lilly.ping.de>, martin.mocker@lycosmail.com writes: after following the Y2K thread in this group I decided to install the Y2K OS 4.2 patch on my NeXT Color Turbo (with OS 4.2 of course). Ok, so far so good. While installing the pkg Installer.app listed all the files that already exited on my HDD (of course - the have to be patched). But one file was not already on my HDD: /mach_kernel !!! I only had: black> ls -l /mach lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 9 Apr 18 1997 /mach -> $BOOTFILE@ black> ls -l /sdmach -r--r--r-- 3 root 832196 Apr 16 1997 /sdmach and after installing the patch, of course this mach_kernel file: -r--r--r-- 1 root 832256 Aug 7 00:14 /mach_kernel If this shall be the new Mach kernel do I have to copy it to /sdmach and overwrite this file (the size of the file mach_kernel suggest this somehow). Why did the machine run without the mach_kernel file since now ? My OS4.2/Intel system has /mach_kernel, as does the NS3.3 partition on that system, while my NS3.3/m68k system has /sdmach. It's entirely possible that the difference is due to hardcoded stuff in the boot ROM on the NeXT system. In any case, it doesn't make a difference what the name is, so long as the boot command you're using matches the name where you've stored the kernel. Under the assumption that on NeXT hardware /sdmach is used because the NeXT hardware expects /sdmach, I'd move the current /sdmach to a backup location and move /mach_kernel to /sdmach. Later, -- scott hess (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!dca1-feed4.news.digex.net!digex!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: get around EPROM password Date: 20 Jan 1999 08:03:39 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Lines: 17 Message-ID: <784k7b$7m3@papoose.quick.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32703 In article , John Riccardi wrote: >I bought two ColorTurbo slabs at a NASA surplus auction - $60 each >including monitor, mouse & keyboard. I don't know *any* of the passwords >and I was wondering if anyone knew how I can reset the EPROM password so I >can boot from other media and reinstall You will have to remove the battery on the motherboard, and then either wait, or short out the contacts with a paperclip. Full instructions are in the hardware FAQ. Pointers to all the information you need are posted monthly on comp.sys.next.advocacy. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | If only the HMO would cover my allergy to gravity. ) | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!nntp2.cerf.net!nntp3.cerf.net!news.san.rr.com!not-for-mail From: "Steve Biskis" Subject: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Lines: 569 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:54:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.22.126 X-Trace: news.san.rr.com 916840486 204.210.22.126 (Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:54:46 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:54:46 PDT Organization: TWC Road Runner, San Diego, CA Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32704 comp.sys.next.programmer:30275 comp.sys.next.misc:29220 comp.sys.next.software:35236 Interesting, My last post seems to have been retroactively deleted from all the newsboards so here it is again with some adjustments: I assume the moderator doesn't want binaries attached. --- Hello All, There has been sufficient interest to the point where I'd better post this: Patch for Preferences under NeXTSTEP 3.3 I modified the Gnu sh-utils-1.16 date source to recognize Preference's "proprietary" set command format. This modified date.c automatically differentiates the Prefs call from the standard set format so that all the other options should still work as advertised by --usage. Here's what to do: 1> ftp to ftp.gnu.org and download the sh-utils-1.16 distribution. 2> backup the stock version of date.c that came with it and copy my modified version in its place. 3> configure & compile date 4> Now, to install, 1st make sure that you are root . 5> cd to /usr/lib/Preferences . 6> PLEASE backup the date utility that is now there by say, mv date.Y1.9K or something . 7> Now copy the new date utility to /usr/lib/Preferences and watch Preferences forge ahead into the future. 8> Don't forget to replace the one in /bin as well ... For those of you who don't/can't download or compile, I can send you a dual-FAT binary: m68k/i386 of date. Sorry, I don't run Sun or HP ... (yet) - Perhaps someone more connected than myself can build a quad FAT version and make it available along with the simple install directions. As time goes by more folks are bound to want it. I haven't messed around with any of the other problem utilities. With the possible exception of nroff/troff, I don't use any of them directly. I'm not at all sure how problematic they could prove to be in their current state. But what I'm most concerned about is what may still lay undiscovered due to lack of interest on Apple's part. I'm guessing that the only problems mentioned for NeXTSTEP are those that were found while scurrying to rescue OpenStep !!! Maybe there are no additional NS-specific problems to worry about but due to Apple's lack of support - who knows? If anybody out there discovers any new NS3.3 Y2K problems or solutions PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE respond in kind. Lets not get beat by this - we've still got time !!! da bisk P.S. In the spirit of CopyLeft, here's the source: ********** BEGIN: date.c ********** /* date - print or set the system date and time Copyright (C) 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. David MacKenzie 11/26/98 NeXT Y2K Patched Version: Steve Biskis Look for the AREAS marked BISK for what has been alterred ... */ #include #include #include #include #include "system.h" #include "getline.h" #include "error.h" #include "getdate.h" #ifndef STDC_HEADERS size_t strftime (); time_t time (); #endif int putenv (); int stime (); char *xrealloc (); time_t posixtime (); static void show_date __P ((const char *format, time_t when)); static void usage __P ((int status)); /* The name this program was run with, for error messages. */ char *program_name; /* If nonzero, display usage information and exit. */ static int show_help; /* If nonzero, print the version on standard output and exit. */ static int show_version; /* If non-zero, display time in RFC-822 format for mail or news. */ static int rfc_format = 0; /* If nonzero, print or set Coordinated Universal Time. */ static int universal_time = 0; static struct option const long_options[] = { {"date", required_argument, NULL, 'd'}, {"file", required_argument, NULL, 'f'}, {"help", no_argument, &show_help, 1}, {"reference", required_argument, NULL, 'r'}, {"rfc-822", no_argument, NULL, 'R'}, {"set", required_argument, NULL, 's'}, {"uct", no_argument, NULL, 'u'}, {"utc", no_argument, NULL, 'u'}, {"universal", no_argument, NULL, 'u'}, {"version", no_argument, &show_version, 1}, {NULL, 0, NULL, 0} }; // BISK: new function ... static time_t parseDateStr( const char *datestr ) { int n; struct timeval tv; struct tm timeObj, *tmp; char *bp, buf[4], dateStr[16]; if ( !datestr ) return -1; if ( (bp=strchr(datestr,'.')) ) { // NeXT Preferences Format ??? if ( strlen(bp)!=3 || strlen(datestr)<13 ) return -1; sprintf(dateStr,"%.10s%.2s",bp-10,bp+1); } else sprintf(dateStr,"%.12s",datestr); n=strlen(dateStr); if ( n!=4 && n!=6 && n!=10 && n!=12 ) return -1; bp=dateStr; bzero(&timeObj,sizeof(timeObj)); if ( n==10 || n==12 ) { // setting date AND time ... sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_year=atoi(buf); if ( timeObj.tm_year<50 ) timeObj.tm_year+=100; bp+=2; sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_mon=atoi(buf)-1; bp+=2; sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_mday=atoi(buf); bp+=2; } else { gettimeofday(&tv,NULL); tmp=localtime(&tv.tv_sec); timeObj.tm_year=tmp->tm_year; timeObj.tm_mon=tmp->tm_mon; timeObj.tm_mday=tmp->tm_mday; } sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_hour=atoi(buf); bp+=2; sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_min=atoi(buf); bp+=2; if ( *bp ) { sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_sec=atoi(buf); } return mktime(&timeObj); } /* Parse each line in INPUT_FILENAME as with --date and display the each resulting time and date. If the file cannot be opened, tell why then exit. Issue a diagnostic for any lines that cannot be parsed. If any line cannot be parsed, return nonzero; otherwise return zero. */ static int batch_convert (const char *input_filename, const char *format) { int status; FILE *in_stream; char *line; int line_length; size_t buflen; time_t when; if (strcmp (input_filename, "-") == 0) { input_filename = _("standard input"); in_stream = stdin; } else { in_stream = fopen (input_filename, "r"); if (in_stream == NULL) { error (1, errno, "`%s'", input_filename); } } line = NULL; buflen = 0; status = 0; while (1) { line_length = getline (&line, &buflen, in_stream); if (line_length < 0) { /* FIXME: detect/handle error here. */ break; } when = get_date (line, NULL); if (when == -1) { if (line[line_length - 1] == '\n') line[line_length - 1] = '\0'; error (0, 0, _("invalid date ` %s'"), line); status = 1; } else { show_date (format, when); } } if (fclose (in_stream) == EOF) error (2, errno, input_filename); if (line != NULL) free (line); return status; } int main ( int argc, char **argv ) { int optc; const char *datestr=NULL; const char *set_datestr=NULL; time_t when; int set_date = 0; char *format; char *batch_file=NULL; char *reference=NULL; struct stat refstats; int n_args; int status; int option_specified_date; program_name=argv[0]; setlocale(LC_ALL, ""); bindtextdomain(PACKAGE,LOCALEDIR); textdomain(PACKAGE); while ( (optc=getopt_long(argc,argv,"d:f:r:Rs:u",long_options, NULL) )!=EOF ) switch( optc ) { case 0: break; case 'd': datestr=optarg; break; case 'f': batch_file=optarg; break; case 'r': reference=optarg; break; case 'R': rfc_format=1; break; case 's': set_datestr=optarg; set_date=1; break; case 'u': universal_time=1; if ( putenv("TZ=UTC0")!=0 ) error (1,0,"memory exhausted"); #if LOCALTIME_CACHE tzset(); #endif break; default: usage(1); } if ( show_version ) { printf("date (%s) %s\n",GNU_PACKAGE,VERSION); exit(0); } if ( show_help ) usage(0); n_args=argc-optind; option_specified_date = ((datestr?1:0)+(batch_file?1:0)+(reference?1:0)); if ( option_specified_date>1 ) { error(0,0, _("the options to specify dates for printing are mutually exclusive") ); usage (1); } if ( set_date && option_specified_date ) { error(0,0, _("the options to print and set the time may not be used together") ); usage (1); } if ( n_args>1 ) { error(0,0,_("too many non-option arguments")); usage (1); } if ( (set_date || option_specified_date) && n_args==1 && argv[optind][0]!='+' ) { error(0,0,_("\ the argument `%s' lacks a leading `+';\n\ when using an option to specify date(s), any\n\ non-option argument must be a format string beginning with `+'"), argv[optind]); usage (1); } if ( set_date ) datestr=set_datestr; if ( batch_file!=NULL ) status = batch_convert(batch_file,(n_args==1?argv[optind]+1:NULL)); else { status=0; if ( !option_specified_date && !set_date ) { if ( n_args==1 && argv[optind][0]!='+' ) { /* Prepare to set system clock to the specified date/time given in the POSIX-format. */ set_date=1; datestr=argv[optind]; // BISK: changed ... //when = posixtime (datestr); when=parseDateStr(datestr); format=NULL; } else { /* Prepare to print the current date/time. */ datestr=_("undefined"); time(&when); format=(n_args==1?argv[optind]+1:NULL); } } else /* (option_specified_date || set_date) */ { if ( reference!=NULL ) { if ( stat(reference,&refstats) ) error(1,errno,"%s",reference); when = refstats.st_mtime; } else when=get_date (datestr,NULL); format=(n_args==1?argv[optind]+1:NULL); } if ( when==-1 ) error (1,0,_("invalid date `%s'"),datestr); if ( set_date ) { /* Set the system clock to the specified date, then regardless of the success of that operation, format and print that date. */ if ( stime(&when)==-1 ) error(0,errno,_("cannot set date")); } show_date (format, when); } if ( fclose(stdout)==EOF ) error(2,errno,_("write error")); exit (status); } /* Display the date and/or time in WHEN according to the format specified in FORMAT, followed by a newline. If FORMAT is NULL, use the standard output format (ctime style but with a timezone inserted). */ static void show_date (const char *format, time_t when) { struct tm *tm; char *out = NULL; size_t out_length = 0; tm = localtime (&when); if (format == NULL) { /* Print the date in the default format. Vanilla ANSI C strftime doesn't support %e, but POSIX requires it. If you don't use a GNU strftime, make sure yours supports %e. If you are not using GNU strftime, you want to change %z in the RFC format to %Z; this gives, however, an invalid RFC time format outside the continental United States and GMT. */ format = (rfc_format ? (universal_time ? "%a, %_d %b %Y %H:%M:%S GMT" : "%a, %_d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %z") : "%a %b %e %H:%M:%S %Z %Y"); } else if (*format == '\0') { printf ("\n"); return; } do { out_length += 200; out = (char *) xrealloc (out, out_length); } while (strftime (out, out_length, format, tm) == 0); printf ("%s\n", out); free (out); } static void usage (int status) { if (status != 0) fprintf (stderr, _("Try `%s --help' for more information.\n"), program_name); else { printf (_("\ Usage: %s [OPTION]... [+FORMAT]\n\ or: %s [OPTION] [MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]]\n\ "), program_name, program_name); printf (_("\ Display the current time in the given FORMAT, or set the system date.\n\ \n\ -d, --date=STRING display time described by STRING, not `now'\n\ -f, --file=DATEFILE like --date once for each line of DATEFILE\n\ -r, --reference=FILE display the last modification time of FILE\n\ -R, --rfc-822 output RFC-822 compliant date string\n\ -s, --set=STRING set time described by STRING\n\ -u, --utc, --universal print or set Coordinated Universal Time\n\ --help display this help and exit\n\ --version output version information and exit\n\ ")); printf (_("\ \n\ FORMAT controls the output. The only valid option for the second form\n\ specifies Coordinated Universal Time. Interpreted sequences are:\n\ \n\ %%%% a literal %%\n\ %%a locale's abbreviated weekday name (Sun..Sat)\n\ %%A locale's full weekday name, variable length (Sunday..Saturday)\n\ %%b locale's abbreviated month name (Jan..Dec)\n\ %%B locale's full month name, variable length (January..December)\n\ %%c locale's date and time (Sat Nov 04 12:02:33 EST 1989)\n\ %%d day of month (01..31)\n\ %%D date (mm/dd/yy)\n\ %%e day of month, blank padded ( 1..31)\n\ %%h same as %%b\n\ %%H hour (00..23)\n\ %%I hour (01..12)\n\ %%j day of year (001..366)\n\ %%k hour ( 0..23)\n\ %%l hour ( 1..12)\n\ %%m month (01..12)\n\ %%M minute (00..59)\n\ %%n a newline\n\ %%p locale's AM or PM\n\ %%r time, 12-hour (hh:mm:ss [AP]M)\n\ %%s seconds since 00:00:00, Jan 1, 1970 (a GNU extension)\n\ %%S second (00..61)\n\ %%t a horizontal tab\n\ %%T time, 24-hour (hh:mm:ss)\n\ %%U week number of year with Sunday as first day of week (00..53)\n\ %%V week number of year with Monday as first day of week (01..52)\n\ %%w day of week (0..6); 0 represents Sunday\n\ %%W week number of year with Monday as first day of week (00..53)\n\ %%x locale's date representation (mm/dd/yy)\n\ %%X locale's time representation (%%H:%%M:%%S)\n\ %%y last two digits of year (00..99)\n\ %%Y year (1970...)\n\ %%z RFC-822 style numeric timezone (-0500) (a nonstandard extension)\n\ %%Z time zone (e.g., EDT), or nothing if no time zone is determinable\n\ \n\ By default, date pads numeric fields with zeroes. GNU date recognizes\n\ the following modifiers between `%%' and a numeric directive.\n\ \n\ `-' (hyphen) do not pad the field\n\ `_' (underscore) pad the field with spaces\n\ ")); puts (_("\nReport bugs to sh-utils-bugs@gnu.ai.mit.edu")); } exit (status); } ********** END: date.c ********** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.eurocyber.net!nntp.flash.net!news.airnews.net!cabal12.airnews.net!cabal1.airnews.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: aawtrey@internetwerx.com (Allan Awtrey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: openstep 4.2 boot floppy for motorola hardware Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:09:52 GMT Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America Lines: 18 Message-ID: X-Orig-Message-ID: <36a5e215.41434079@news.airmail.net> Abuse-Reports-To: abuse at airmail.net to report improper postings NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Wed Jan 20 08:09:46 1999 NNTP-Posting-Host: c\NHP+C\biCM@[-+ NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.58.194.87 X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Jan 20 15:04:36 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x7.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 192.58.194.87 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32706 Howdy. I apologize if this is not the correct group, but of all the comp.sys.next groups, this seemed the most accurate for this posting... I recently bought a used NeXT CUBE which I have just received, unpacked and am completely amazed by, and I haven't even gotten to the OS yet! The problem is that A) I don't know the ROM password. But I can still get it to boot. Is there a way to reset the ROM so that it defaults back to its original settings? B) When it does actually start booting NeXTSTEP, it starts look for YP services on my network, which I don't provide, seeing as the cube is the only computer on the network right now. Is there a way to boot into a single-user mode so that I might diable the YP services? I'm quite familiar with UNIX in general, so there's no problem if I can just get to a root shell. Basically, I need to hack my own machine. :) Also, if somebody could post a list of key combinations that do useful things at startup, it would be much appreciated. (I don't have the docs for NeXTSTEP -- plan on buying OS4.2 ASAP). Thanks! -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.csl-gmbh.net!blackbush.xlink.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu!newsfeed.nyu.edu!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!insnet.net!interalpha.net!lskj.com From: sdj@lskj.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NEED FREE WEB SPACE???? Date: Tuesday, 19 Jan 1999 16:12:06 -0600 Organization: aaa@aaa.com Lines: 16 Message-ID: <19019916.1206@lskj.com> Reply-To: none@none.com NNTP-Posting-Host: arthur.interalpha.net X-Trace: starburst.uk.insnet.net 916788995 1756 195.26.224.5 (19 Jan 1999 23:36:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@starburst.uk.insnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Jan 1999 23:36:35 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32707 Web Hosting for absolutly free!!! free http/ftp space... plus a free email!! you can put anything on our serves to! (warez/mp3/porn/etc) http://oproot.opx.com !!!WebHosting For FREE!!! ___________________________ \LdvXXB*Y&NFx:Z#D:(_nolu[O[ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: dan_green@ibs.ingenius.on.ca Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:03:47 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <785270$gop$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Message-ID: Sender: dan_green@ibs.ingenius.on.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Control: cancel <785270$gop$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> X-Cancelled-By: dan_green@ibs.ingenius.on.ca Approved: postnews@dejanews.com Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.58.194.87 X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5748329 Original Subject: Comments: Was a duplicate posting. Accident. :) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer1.nac.net!news.new-york.net!news2.new-york.net!not-for-mail From: "cleong" Subject: Re: openstep 4.2 boot floppy for motorola hardware X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Complaints-To: Email abuse@news2.new-york.net if this posting is inappropriate X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: t1-59.crisp.net Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: news2.new-york.net 916854187 22443 (None) [199.224.12.59] Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:46:49 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32708 >any ideas or maybe a place to get the correct image from if i have the >wrong disk? You can use the 3.3 Motorola boot floppy http://ent.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2071.htmld/2071.html ) for kickstarting the OS4.2 CD on non-Turbo hardware. Then go to http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2667.htmld/2667.html and read "Creating NEXTSTEP Floppies From Images Under NEXTSTEP". ---- Clifford Leong [leong@home.com] http://members.home.net/leong #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 4.2 as mail / name server setup question Date: 20 Jan 1999 19:33:39 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 30 Message-ID: <785b2j$doc$2@news.spacelab.net> References: <78451q$166@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32709 stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) wrote: [ ... ] > Where do I need to start to get my machine fully configured as mail / > name server? I would like to have things like mail bounce when it's sent > to a non-existing (non-aliased) address@DOMAIN.org, etc. For those purposes, you'd do the same configuration you would do with any other Unix machine. Get the latest version of sendmail (8.9.2), use a modern m4 to build a new configuration file. Set up Cw or use a file macro to set up a /etc/mail/sendmail.cw file containing the list of addresses which local delivery should occur. It's likely you would wish to set up /etc/mail/relay-domains and access for spam filtering but still permit legitimate relaying. For name service, either get BIND 4.9.6 (older version, configuration is more familiar to most people and corresponds to the O'Reilly books) or BIND 8.1.x (newer, more secure and much more configurable, somewhat painful to build, not nearly as much documentation around). Set up one or more authoritative name server(s) for the domain and create the data files, and let your ISP and/or InterNIC know so proper delegation for the domain and the IP space (the in-addr.arpa reverse domain) is done. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.mbnet.mb.ca!pumpkin.pangea.ca!news.pangea.ca!not-for-mail From: Richard Tilley Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Esoteric OD question Date: 20 Jan 1999 12:24:07 -0600 Organization: Pangea.CA, Inc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <785707$9v@surf.pangea.ca> References: <36a19388.0@news.cadvision.com> <36A265BA.FD6FCC89@ncal.verio.com> <36a381e7.0@news.cadvision.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: surf.pangea.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: pumpkin.pangea.ca 916856779 25775 204.112.101.109 (20 Jan 1999 18:26:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@pangea.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jan 1999 18:26:19 GMT X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:35882 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32710 Hi Larry ... Try your drives in another cube to narrow down the suspects. The common "repeated spindown spinup" problem can be cured by spreading a drop of thin oil on each of the silver rails. ... Richard #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!bignews.mediaways.net!news.ruhrgebiet.individual.net!lilly.ping.de!not-for-mail From: martin.mocker@lycosmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: CubXWindow & ADB Keyboards ??? Date: 20 Jan 1999 22:39:08 GMT Organization: private Site Lines: 31 Message-ID: <785luc$ngi$1@lilly.ping.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: knopf.ping.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32711 Hello everyone, I am facing another problem :-( Since I switched to ADB somehow CunX won't run properly anymore: I get all the wrong characters when typing on the keyboard; e.g. I get when typing a and so on... Someone suggested I should change the .Xmodmap user file and I did so. I managed to change all characters - except !!! xev tells me that the keycode for "a" is 0 (0x0, NoSymbol) !! And no xmodmap version I tried wants to swallow the follwoing definition: keycode 0 = a A They all abort with "bad keycode value Why, why has it to be this way ??? Why can there be a key on the keyboard with keycode 0 when I cannot redefine it ?? Please help - I am getting aggressive towards my station - don't know how long I can hold myself back...this is getting frustrating. Thanks in advance ! Best regards, Martin -- Martin Mocker martin.mocker@lycosmail.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!198.82.160.249!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!not-for-mail From: mgi@granite.geol.vt.edu (Matthias Georg Imhof) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: How to install updated driver ATIRage.pkg.compressed.Z on OS4.2 Date: 20 Jan 1999 23:43:27 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia, USA Lines: 23 Message-ID: <785pmv$kaq$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: granite.geol.vt.edu X-Trace: solaris.cc.vt.edu 916875807 20826 128.173.184.182 (20 Jan 1999 23:43:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@vt.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jan 1999 23:43:27 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32712 I have been trying to decompress ATIRage.pkg.compressed.Z. First, I use gunzip to obtain ATIRage.pkg.compressed. However, at this point I am absolutely lost how to obtain the package. Workspace tells me that Jan 20 18:29:40 MiniApp[392]: Error while executing /usr/ucb/uncompress Manually calling uncompress yields that the remaining ATIRage.pkg.compressed file is not in gzip format. Which tool should I use to get the .pkg file? Matthias -- ************************************************************************** * Matthias G.Imhof, Ph.D. phone: (540) 231 6004 * * Derring Hall 4044 fax: (540) 231 3386 * * Virginia Tech email: mgi@vt.edu * * Blacksburg, VA 24061-0420 http://www.geol.vt.edu/profs/mgi * * There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark * ************************************************************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NetInfo X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77oi2l$5bu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Lines: 23 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:23:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.98 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916889035 209.212.132.98 (Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:23:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:23:55 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32713 In <77oi2l$5bu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> josborn@depauw.edu wrote: > Can I disablt NetInfo and just run NFS? > > If so is there more to mounting the remote filesystems then entering the host > in the hosts file and using NFSManger to mount the files other computer's > files. Any thoughts? NFSManager.app is a front end to NetInfo. Turn NetInfo off and you can't use NFSManager. NFS should be pretty easy to setup -- have you had anyone try and talk you through it? TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Used NeXT Cube. X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <784s0g$b2h$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Lines: 11 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:32:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.98 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916889569 209.212.132.98 (Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:32:49 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:32:49 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32714 see http://www.peak.org/~luomat/articles/FAQs/ TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77bkr3$stf$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77dshp$m09$1@blackice.winternet.com> <369b3cad.26823340@news.xecu.net> <77jtp3$4vj$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <77l9f6$d3j$1@news.spacelab.net> <77ohia$53c$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Lines: 23 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:40:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.98 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916890058 209.212.132.98 (Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:40:58 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:40:58 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32715 In <77ohia$53c$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> josborn@depauw.edu wrote: > I set my (Black Hardware) clock to 30 seconds to midnight Dec 31, 1999 last > year and it just flipped up to 2000. You can let it take care of itself and let it turn to 2000. You cannot set it past 2000. You can sync it to another machine using ntp. > Some of the software may be buggy but > my guess is that the NeXT's are y2k compliant. The problem is not the minor utilities but the Frameworks used in 3.3 TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.150.97.11!feeder.qis.net!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> Lines: 20 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:45:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.98 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916890345 209.212.132.98 (Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:45:45 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:45:45 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32716 comp.sys.next.programmer:30280 comp.sys.next.misc:29222 comp.sys.next.software:35241 NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE A) Binaries should not be posted to non-binary groups. I just had to watch my wheel spin as your binary was downloaded through my 28.8 connection. Usenet is not the place for file distribution (that's why FTP was invented). Usenet feeds expire, people may or may not want the binary you just forced on them, etc (Plus I'm willing to be you violated the Usenet AUP for RR.com) B) Your message was not needed to be crossposted, and violated the guidelines for these groups C) Your efforts, while appreciated, are duplications of efforts already made. There was a replacement `date' command put on the FTP sites some time ago D) These little commands are not what I worry about, it is the frameworks used for 3.3 that worry me (how will they work after y2k?). TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!crcnews.unl.edu!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: "Rex Dieter" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: How to install updated driver ATIRage.pkg.compressed.Z on OS4.2 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:27:55 -0600 Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 16 Message-ID: <787d8r$f2b$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <785pmv$kaq$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sting.unl.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32717 Matthias Georg Imhof wrote in message <785pmv$kaq$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu>... >I have been trying to decompress ATIRage.pkg.compressed.Z. First, I use >gunzip to obtain ATIRage.pkg.compressed. 1. rename ATIRage.pkg.compressed.Z to ATIRage.pkg.compressed since it is ALREADY compressed. 2. Select in FileViewer/WorkSpace, choose File->Decompress 3. Double click resulting ATIRage.pkg to launch Installer.app 4. Run /NextAdmin/Configure.app to setup/configure the driver. -- Rex #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.germany.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.103.147.20!news.voicenet.com!nntp.upenn.edu!jake.esu.edu!not-for-mail From: hutchens@cs.millersv.edu (David H. Hutchens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Loading OPENSTEP on Gateway Date: 21 Jan 1999 16:42:41 GMT Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania Lines: 28 Message-ID: <787le1$3eq$1@jake.esu.edu> Reply-To: hutchens@cs.millersv.edu (David H. Hutchens) NNTP-Posting-Host: raven.millersv.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32718 I need help in installing OPENSTEP 4.2 on a Gateway 450. It has a 10.2 GB MAXTOR EIDE/ATAPI hard disk, and an EIDE/ATAPI CDROM (Mitsumi). When I tried to install, things seem to be fine until it tries to find the hard disk for install. Then it complains that it needs a disk with 512 byte blocks and 120 MB of disk. The disk is currently empty. However, it seems to have labeled the CDROM as sd0. I don't see the disk in the boot information from OPENSTEP. So I checked the BIOS and found that the CDROM was the primary master and the hard disk was the secondary master. I tried switching the data wires. The result is that it marks the hard disk as hd0 and fails to see the CDROM at all. Is there some magic wiring for loading OPENSTEP with an ATAPI CDROM and an ATAPI disk drive? Also, I have an Ensoniq AGP video card. Is there a driver that will work with this card, or must I barter it for a Matrox Millenium? Thanks, - David Hutchens hutchens@cs.millersv.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <787mru$32n$12253@news01.roka.net> Control: cancel <787mru$32n$12253@news01.roka.net> Date: 21 Jan 1999 17:08:13 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: steffi@pointofmail.de Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!news-fra.maz.net!news01.roka.net!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: NEW !!! www.camsex.de X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:04:26 PST X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.97.40.117 X-Original-From: steffi@pointofmail.de X-Original-X-Trace: news01.roka.net 916938430 3159 194.97.40.117 (21 Jan 1999 17:07:10 GMT) X-CosmoTraq: *R`+9$OXY2JZ;VC&:CA843ZE;>F@`B#9&4/Q#50,)^!"`T;0`KD&M%TU X-Cancel-ID: 8+D\>_T0M)L^"W References: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> NNTP-Posting-Host: ietpd1.sowi.uni-mainz.de Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-No-Archive: yes X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32719 "Steve Biskis" writes: > My last post seems to have been retroactively deleted > from all the newsboards > Check out news.admin.abuse for details. > so here it is again with some > adjustments: > Aargh! No, not again! >:-( > I assume the moderator doesn't want binaries attached. > Ahem, i don't want any binaries in non-binary newsgroups (like this one for example) either. This is BTW *very* depreciated via *basic* netiquette. Would you please be so kind as to pay some attention to this as well? A far more appropriate method of getting your patch distributed would be via a personal homepage or by uploading it to the peanuts FTP site. IIRC one can get completely free webspace at www.geocities.com and the like for such purposes. It would be politer to simply announce the availability of said patch and refer interested parties to the URL where to download this patch instead of spamming they way you are repeatedly doing now. And now i'm going to delete your posting (among quite some others) from our news server to allow for more disk space savings. Usenet has been becoming quite a nuisance in recent years because of the immense increase of spam postings. Yours is still among the nicer items but spam for it's offtopicness nonetheless. Thank you, P. Seelig -- --------- Paul Seelig ----------- African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany ------------------- http://ntama.uni-mainz.de -------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.uni-mainz.de!gateway From: mlx@san.rr.com (Steve Biskis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Date: 21 Jan 99 22:43:50 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Lines: 66 Message-ID: <199901212243.OAA08524@proxyb1-atm.san.rr.com> Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: ietpd1.sowi.uni-mainz.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32720 Hello Paul, nice to meet you - [...] > Check out news.admin.abuse for details. Can't find it in my newsgroups listings. Found news.admin.net-abuse.* but the contents of these, while entertaining, doesn't really seem to bear much resemblance to my post. [...] > Ahem, i don't want any binaries in non-binary newsgroups (like this > one for example) either. This is BTW *very* depreciated via *basic* > netiquette. Would you please be so kind as to pay some attention to > this as well? Truly sorry, I wasn't sure about that one. I'm admittedly new to posting. Where do I find out about the policies of a given newsgroup BEFORE I break them ? BTW, is that word really supposed to be depreciated ? > A far more appropriate method of getting your patch distributed would > be via a personal homepage or by uploading it to the peanuts FTP site. > IIRC one can get completely free webspace at www.geocities.com and the > like for such purposes. It would be politer to simply announce the > availability of said patch and refer interested parties to the URL > where to download this patch instead of spamming they way you are > repeatedly doing now. Sorry, at the time, just seemed simpler and more direct to do it my way. > And now i'm going to delete your posting (among quite some others) > from our news server to allow for more disk space savings. Usenet has > been becoming quite a nuisance in recent years because of the immense > increase of spam postings. Yours is still among the nicer items but > spam for it's offtopicness nonetheless. Here, I have to disagree. I fail to see how a patch to overcome the limitations of a NeXT SysAdmin tool is SPAM to comp.sys.next.sysadmin. If it is, you had better loosen up that policy a bit. As far as saving disk space, its true, my post at 569 lines was not small. However, I see a regular post of 327 lines re-hitting about once a week. Mine was(would have been) a one-shot. I'm not criticizing that "Where to find Resources" post, I think its very valuable. But, technically, its far more loosely related to SysAdmin than my post. Now, I'll delete your newsgroup from my listings, its holds far more questions than answers anyway - and with maintainers like you its sure to stay that way. > Thank you, P. Seelig > -- > --------- Paul Seelig ----------- > African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies > Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany > ------------------- http://ntama.uni-mainz.de -------------------- and Thank You, Steve B. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: pekele_c@informatik.fh-hamburg.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Single user problem with the pasteboard Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:06:44 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 33 Message-ID: <788ius$l38$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.15 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Jan 22 01:06:44 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 www-proxy.codefab.com:3128 (Squid/2.1.PATCH2), 1.0 x5.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 206.148.46.67, 206.148.46.15 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32721 Hi, I have a standalone OS4.2/Intel machine which is running fine. I set up a new user account for a relative who's a complete computer newbie. After several weeks of working with her account there appears a problem with the pasteboard server so that drag&drop and most applications refuse to launch anymore. The other user accounts are still working correctly. When the user with the broken account logs in she gets the following console output (clips): Dec 29 21:22:05 Workspace[244]: *** Error connecting to pasteboard: -102 Dec 29 21:22:06 Workspace[244]: *** Error connecting to pasteboard: -102 Dec 29 21:24:04 luck Mail[246]: An uncaught exception was raised Dec 29 21:24:04 luck Mail[246]: App Kit: Pasteboard Mach messaging error #-203, in (null pointer) Dec 29 21:26:07 Solitaire[435] AppKit Error: Can't connect to pbs. Maybe Public Window Server is not enabled on remote host? Also note: you can't NSHost 4.X apps to 3.X systems. Dec 29 21:26:16 luck Mail[438]: Assertion failed: App Kit error: Error messaging drag service Dec 29 21:35:31 Workspace[244]: *** Error connecting to pasteboard: -102 Dec 29 21:35:31 luck WM[244]: App Kit: Pasteboard Mach messaging error #-102, in _NXGetSession I have no idea what going on here, what caused this problem and how it could be fixed. The user is unable to tell me what she did last before the problem appeared. I cleaned the NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP defaults database of the user and set all files in the user's home read and writeable to the user. But these shots into the dark didn't help so I deleted the user and recreated it. Now, after several weeks the same problem appears again for the same account. Any ideas? Thanks, Christian -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.208.190.2!news.globix.net!nntp2.cerf.net!nntp3.cerf.net!mvb.saic.com!aries.tucson.saic.com!not-for-mail From: Mike Ingram Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] Configuring a NeXTprinter for a Samba service Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:35:42 -0700 Lines: 46 Message-ID: <36A7F20D.DD85B611@aries.tucson.saic.com> References: <780fhu$m7v@news.acns.nwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: gatespass.tucson.saic.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; U; IRIX 5.3 IP12) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32722 comp.sys.next.software:35260 > > > I'm trying to configure a NeXTprinter (black hardware) to work with Samba. > Does anyone know how I should configure the service in Samba and how (if > necessary) I need to modify the printcap or Netinfo entries? Let's see.... Black turboslab, version 3.3, Black printer I used Samba.1.9.18.p10 .... ( a fairly recent version) in smb.conf , under /usr/local/samba/lib/smb.conf I have [global] printcap name = /usr/local/samba/lib/printcap printing = bsd ; encrypt passwords = yes ( I could NOT get encrypted passwords to work with a Win 98 box..... had to turn to a Microsoft trick to turn off encrypted passwords ) [printers] comment = All Printers path = /usr/spool/samba browseable = no guest ok = no writable = no printable = yes /usr/local/samba/lib/printcap has a single line entry: Local_Printer Printer is configured as standard Next printer .. nothing special there.... Some of this I got from the SAMBA faq, It's been a while, but don't think I did anything with NetInfo. good luck MIke #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.northeast.verio.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.cc.swarthmore.edu!triplett From: triplett@merlin.sccs.swarthmore.edu (Lisa June Triplett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Seeking your opinions and experiences Date: 20 Jan 1999 22:26:51 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA Lines: 112 Message-ID: <785l7b$cob@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: merlin.sccs.swarthmore.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32723 Hi, I'm a sociology and anthropology major at Swarthmore College. I'm also minoring in computer science and have worked as a sysadmin and system programmer. I'm writing my soc & anth senior thesis about the culture of United States computer professionals. With this post, I'm trying to reach computer professionals, specifically programmers and sysadmins (including consultants), of all ages and levels of experience. If you fit this description, and have the time and interest, I'd really appreciate your help. I've been reading what both academic researchers and the popular media have to say about computer professionals, and now I'd like to get some perspective on whether what I've been reading and what I've observed fits other peoples' real experiences. You can help me by answering as many of the questions on the following questionnaire as possible, in as much detail as you would like. Illustrative anecdotes are welcome. Send all responses to triplett@sccs.swarthmore.edu. I won't use the real names of anyone who answers this questionnaire in my paper. Thank you very much for your time and consideration. Sincerely, Lisa Triplett I. Demographics 1. In what state and city do you work? 2. Approximately how many employees of your company work at your job site? 3. How old are you? II. Your Personal Story 1. How long have you been involved with computers? What were your first experiences with programming or system administration? 2. Do you consider yourself fundamentally a "computer person"? How about a "geek"? Why or why not? What do those terms mean? 3. What drew you to the type of job you have now? (or Why did you decide to stick with computers and make it a career?) Why are you still doing it now? Is it the same reason? What do you get out of it? 4. How does being a computer person (or just a computer professional) affect the rest of your life? Are most of your friends computer people? If so, do you think it's because of something fundamental you have in common or are they just the people who are around? 5. What do you do in your free time? Do the things you do in your free time have anything in common with working with computers? One of the things I've noticed is that it seems like computer people (myself often included) go about any pastime with the intention of becoming an expert-- learning all of the terminology, reading everything that's ever been written about it, striving to be excellent or impressive even when it's "just" the thing they do for fun or entertainment. What do you think of this idea? Do you fit into this? Do people you know? II. Thoughts on the computer community and work environment 1. How is the computer industry different from other industries? Are workplaces organized differently? Are the people different? Would you say there is anything special about computers themselves that attracts a certain type of person or demands a certain type of workplace organization? 2. Is the world of computer experts a secret society? Did it used to be if i t isn't now? Is it a community at all? What does it take to be a "member"? What binds people together? How do you earn social status in the computer world? Is it an "old boy" network? How do women and minorities fit into the computer community? 3. Obviously there's a stereotype of computer people as not being bound to the same social rules as others. Have you found that places you've worked have been more tolerant of individual quirkiness than you'd expect other professions to be? Any stories about that? 4. I read somewhere that "managing programmers is like herding cats," (*Close to the Machine*, by Ellen Ullman). From that statement, you get the idea that programmers are these fiercely independent people, brilliant but don't play well with others, that sort of thing. How true do you think that is? Do you think the computer industry is organized differently from other industries because of this? 5. The computer industry seems to be undergoing a lot of changes lately, partly because of overwhelming growth in number of companies and jobs. What do you think are some of the major trends of change in the computer industry, and what is your opinion of them? Are there changes in the type of people becoming computer professionals? Changes in workplace organization? 6. What about the trend towards higher and higher level programming languages and visual programming languages? Is the industry getting less arcane? Is this affecting the computer community? 7. If you've worked more than one place, do you find regional differences in the computer culture? What about differences based on size of workplace? Any thoughts on the effects of computer firms having campuses? 8. Is there a personality difference between the people who are drawn to programming and the people who are drawn to system administration? Between people who do different types of programming? Do you think there's an area of the computer industry where the "real geeks are? Where is that and why? IV. Suggestions for me Can you think of any books or articles I should read? Any web sites I should visit or newsgroups/mailing lists I should check out? Thank you so much for your help! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.114.4.11!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Cliff McCollum" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NAT for MacOS X Organization: Blue Globe Software X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Lines: 9 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:56:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.64.202.179 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com 917016986 24.64.202.179 (Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:56:26 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:56:26 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32724 Is there any way to do NAT under Rhapsody DR2, and eventually under MacOS X? Cliff ========================================================================= Cliff McCollum cliffmcc@blueglobe.com President, Blue Globe Software http://www.blueglobe.com/~cliffmcc PO Box 8171, Victoria, BC, CANADA, V8W3R8. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Transferring Diskspace to NT? Date: 22 Jan 1999 19:12:26 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 13 Message-ID: <78aiiq$p21$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <36a7f09c.4851476@news.itd.umich.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32725 decker@robdecker.com (Robert A. Decker) wrote: [ ... ] > Is there a way to transfer the OpenStep diskspace to NT without having > to reinstall NT? Yes. Run Disk Administrator (under Start->Programs->Administrative Tools), use it to format the OPENSTEP partition with NTFS or FAT. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Date: 22 Jan 1999 19:41:57 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 57 Message-ID: <78aka5$ph8$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <199901212243.OAA08524@proxyb1-atm.san.rr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32726 mlx@san.rr.com (Steve Biskis) wrote: [ ... ] >> Ahem, i don't want any binaries in non-binary newsgroups (like this >> one for example) either. This is BTW *very* depreciated via *basic* >> netiquette. Would you please be so kind as to pay some attention to >> this as well? > > Truly sorry, I wasn't sure about that one. I'm admittedly new to posting. > Where do I find out about the policies of a given newsgroup BEFORE I > break them ? You read the FAQ for that particular newsgroup. In this case, it is posted here regularly by Scott Anguish. It includes a "Roadmap for the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups", which is also available on . Otherwise, examine . [ ... ] >> And now i'm going to delete your posting (among quite some others) >> from our news server to allow for more disk space savings. Usenet has >> been becoming quite a nuisance in recent years because of the immense >> increase of spam postings. Yours is still among the nicer items but >> spam for it's offtopicness nonetheless. > > Here, I have to disagree. I fail to see how a patch to overcome the > limitations of a NeXT SysAdmin tool is SPAM to comp.sys.next.sysadmin. Binary postings to non-binary newsgroups are SPAM by definition. > If it is, you had better loosen up that policy a bit. It's not his policy to change. If you want to the charters of these newgroups to be modified, you are free to start the RFC/CFV process and see whether enough people agree. > As far as saving disk space, its true, my post at 569 lines was not small. > However, I see a regular post of 327 lines re-hitting about once a week. > Mine was(would have been) a one-shot. I'm not criticizing that "Where to > find Resources" post, I think its very valuable. But, technically, its far > more loosely related to SysAdmin than my post. Scott knows what he's doing; he's using a supercedes: header to control resource utilization. > Now, I'll delete your newsgroup from my listings, its holds far more > questions than answers anyway - and with maintainers like you its sure > to stay that way. Oh. Well, so much for that.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newshub.northeast.verio.net!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon-sf.pbi.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Calvin Mitchell" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Newbie: Shell Scripts on Openstep 4.2/Mach Lines: 8 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:59:05 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.215.163.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: typhoon-sf.pbi.net 917038749 207.215.163.10 (Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:59:09 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:59:09 PDT Organization: SBC Internet Services Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32727 Why can't i run /bin/sh scripts from the Terminal.app window without typing "/bin/sh