#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.pop.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!news.uni-hamburg.de!not-for-mail From: Peer Sandtner Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing with FrameMaker? Please... Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:02:29 +0100 Organization: keine Lines: 14 Message-ID: <3690F425.3264@public.uni-hamburg.de> Reply-To: Peer_Sandtner@public.uni-hamburg.de NNTP-Posting-Host: max1-106.public.uni-hamburg.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35065 Hello, I have the following problem when trying to print with FrameMaker 3.2 (with NS 3.3): I always get a panel with: .... Postscript-Error....etc (I don=B4t know the exact text in english.) = Furthermore: - I can print with other applications - I have chosen A4 on both sides (FrameMaker - printer) What to do? Peer #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!europa.clark.net!128.158.254.10!news.msfc.nasa.gov!hammer.msfc.nasa.gov!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Sender: gericom@usa.net Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov Subject: cmsg cancel <75tbh9$gjq$2186@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it> Control: cancel <75tbh9$gjq$2186@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: hammer.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: http://www.msfc.nasa.gov Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:00:37 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Orig-Path: newsfeed.cwix.com!158.43.192.17!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!ams.news.uu.net!uunet!in5.uu.net!server-b.cs.interbusiness.it!not-for-mail X-Orig-Subject: The Interactive Dance Compilation you can play and Mix on your PC!! 276 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.223.235.200 X-Cancel-ID: AGSET>?Z"D0!,4,^+#]WHK:L%0$7*CIT,6%S;EQOI]+FW$4Q1UIJI&&1 Lines: 2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5597967 Canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!news.keyway.net!not-for-mail From: ".o0 Shadow 0o." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pentium II compatibility Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:53:44 -0800 Organization: Keyway Internet Service www.keyway.net Lines: 20 Message-ID: <76rnqf$7vt$1@madmax.keyway.net> References: <76fvco$amj$1@news.indigo.ie> NNTP-Posting-Host: viasub-riv-ppp01.viasub.net X-Trace: madmax.keyway.net 915497615 8189 207.155.54.138 (5 Jan 1999 00:53:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@keyway.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jan 1999 00:53:35 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35066 Hmm... Lemme see... Brendan Rankin wrote in message <76fvco$amj$1@news.indigo.ie>... >I have recently upgraded to an Intel PentiumII machine and was hoping to >install Openstep 4.2/Mach. As only Pentium and Pentium Pro are listed on the >HCL, I just wanted to check that someone was successfully running Openstep >on a PII machine. > >Thanks > >Brendan. Read: Pentium II = Pentium Pro on steroids, with larger instruction cache optimized for both 32 and 16 bit instructions along with faster FSB architecture. Should work.... I don't see why not.... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!netnews.com!news.megsinet.net!aol.com From: RajLamba@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: networking hubs network cards 13774 Date: Monday, 04 Jan 1999 21:14:49 -0600 Organization: MegsInet, Inc. - Low Cost, High Performance Internet Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <04019921.1449@aol.com> Reply-To: RajLamba@aol.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.81.229.131 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35067 Hello I have some 36bit 600x1200 scanners that i want to sell. Along with vidoe cards netwoking few other things you can see the list of things i have at http://members.xoom.com/RajLamba/comp.htm copy and paste the address. You are welcome to make an offer to me on any of those prices I will try my best to do whatever i can for you Thank you. Raj al4 #################################################################### Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 20:02:10 -0700 From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apache Newbie - which version for NS3.3? Message-ID: X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.224.186.92 X-Trace: 4 Jan 1999 21:01:31 +0600, 207.224.186.92 Lines: 19 X-Report: Report abuse to abuse@uswest.net. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.221.240.3!beaker.tor.sfl.net!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!newsfeed2.uswest.net!newsfeed1.uswest.net!news1.uswest.net!jak Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35068 Howdy. I want to set up my Turbo slab as a http server with Apache, which I have not used before. In fact, I'm a bit green with UNIX altogether (save for running around in telnet as needed). There are quite a few different versions at the Peak ftp site - is one recommended? I understand Apache is not the easiest thing to set up, either. Are there any decent free packages for setup/admin on NS? Either way, I want to test and learn the ropes, and then use it as a low-volume server. Thanks, John -- In the year 2000... "In an effort to become even more politically correct, schools will no longer refer to George Washington as "our first president", but as "a mentally-challenged Asian-American in a wheelchair". - Andy Richter jak@asu.edu - http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.165.3.11!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: gwolfe@primenet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Software to play NeXT score files on Windows/Linux...exists? Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 23:28:26 GMT Organization: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <36914def.27346064@news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-124-072.boi.primenet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@globalcenter.net X-Posted-By: @206.132.124.72 (gwolfe) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35069 comp.sys.next.advocacy:116618 comp.sys.next.misc:29199 Is there any software that will play NeXT score files...even playscore ported to win32/linux would be great. I found some score files that I would like to get converted to wav/au/snd etc. format. Thanks, Gary Wolfe gwolfe@primenet.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [SOLVED] TeXview.app Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 5 Jan 1999 03:21:48 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <76rrdv$s2$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Message-ID: <19990104222148.05619.00001414@ng-ch1.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35070 Wonderful! Glad to hear it. Now, on to the matter of using TeX under NeXTstep--is it possible to use virtual fonts without installing teTex? If so, how does one go about it? Anyone have a step-by-step tutorial on setting up for example an Adobe expert set (maybe Adobe Garamond?) as a TeX virtual font? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [SOLVED] TeXview.app Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 01:55:12 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 12 Message-ID: <76rrdv$s2$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.249.191.172 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Jan 05 01:55:12 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998H HTTPS/1.04a OmniNetworking/1998H OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998H OmniFoundation/1998H OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x5.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 207.249.191.172 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35071 Thanks to Lee Altenberg and Will Adams. They were right, TeXview does work under OS 4.2, the problem only appears after an upgrade from NS to OS. I just installed the package again, the same way it was installed before under NeXTStep 3.3, and it works. Regards. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.he.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!207.155.183.80.MISMATCH!global-news-master From: "Concentric" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DNS (or equivalent) settings in OpenStep/NextStep Date: 04 Jan 1999 20:20:14 PST Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <76s3tu$20s@journal.concentric.net> References: <76o9kd$nb3@journal.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cookienator.darkmoon.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35072 Timothy J Luoma wrote in message ... >On 3 Jan 1999, Concentric wrote: > >> I just purchased a NeXT Station and have LAN access to the Internet. > >Static IP or no? Yes, static IP > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!198.138.0.5!newshub.northeast.verio.net!nntp.newengland.verio.net!news.pn.com!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news From: gfrancis@psych.purdue.edu (Greg Francis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RBrowser and linux Date: 5 Jan 1999 18:00:12 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <76tjvc$46@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wizard.psych.purdue.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35073 Running NS 3.2 for Intel and am trying to use RBrowser 0.97 to connect to a Linux machine. Instead of connecting, I get the following message in an Alert box: "REXEC FAILED: read Error 0" rexec was _not_ enabled originally on the linux machine, but the manager there says he now enabled it. Any advice? Is the problem likely to be with RBrowser, or the linux machine? Thanks, -Greg Francis -- Assistant Professor Department of Psychological Sciences Purdue University http://www.psych.purdue.edu/~gfrancis/home.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.tli.de!isdnet!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: "ALAIN STEVENS" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: software solutions for lawyers Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:19:07 +0100 Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Lines: 11 Message-ID: <76tsgs$24t$4@platane.wanadoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: tntnice9-95.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35074 I'm looking for software solutions for lawyers, like Pacta program (you can download test version or demo version on http://www.pacta.com or send me a mail to receive it ) Can you recommend some Internet sites ? Alain STEVENS stevens.alain@wanadoo.fr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.csl-gmbh.net!newsfeed.dpn.de!news-out1.f.gtn.com!news-in1.f.gtn.com!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newspeer1.nac.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OSX , Objective C & web programming X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net> <1dl8giu.y1eolq1q5f2cwN@ascend-tk-p54.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> Lines: 20 Message-ID: <7k%k2.1461$Vu6.2120511@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:42:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.39 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 915702147 209.212.132.39 (Thu, 07 Jan 1999 04:42:27 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 04:42:27 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35089 In <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> Kay Schulz wrote: > does it come with the ProjectBuilder ? > OSx Server? Yes OS-X-Server will be like the Developer release of NeXTStep (ie you get the user version plus the developer tools, such as Project Builder), except that it also comes with WebObjects (50 transactions per minute) TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhrgebiet.individual.net!news.knipp.de!object-factory.com!not-for-mail From: Erik Doernenburg Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WingZ under OpenStep Date: 7 Jan 1999 09:08:31 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Lines: 27 Message-ID: <771tif$k08$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <3693D1FD.926A77B3@edwards.af.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeanine.object-factory.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35090 Michael Young wrote: > I recently upgraded from NS3.3 to OS4.2 on black hardware. The > documentation seems to imply that if an app works under NS3.3 then it > should also work under OS4.2. I am having a problem with WingZ 1.1a > which works great under NS3.3 but aborts with "Wingz: Unrecognized > selector +New" under OS4.2. Does anybody have any ideas on getting > this software to work again. I could go to another spreadsheet > program but I have invested a lot of time in developing macros for > WingZ which would have to be rewritten. > Thanks in advance! A couple of apps break in this or similar ways because NeXT obviously made some incompatible changes to certain shared libraries without incrementing the compatibility version. (Appkit, I think.) If you know what you are doing you can use otool to find out which libraries your app is linked against and which versions of these libraries were included with 3.3 and 4.2. Then you copy the old libraries onto the OPENSTEP system, change the version tag in their name and patch the apps to trick them into using the old version. regards, erik -- OBJECT FACTORY, Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH Telephone: ++49 +231 9751370, Internet: http://www.object-factory.com #################################################################### From: "Damien Guard" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net> <1dl8giu.y1eolq1q5f2cwN@ascend-tk-p54.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> <7k%k2.1461$Vu6.2120511@newshog.newsread.com> Subject: Re: OSX , Objective C & web programming Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:33:15 -0000 Lines: 11 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.226.133.3 Message-ID: <36948d04.0@news.guernsey.net> X-Trace: 7 Jan 1999 10:31:32 GMT, 195.226.133.3 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.114.4.11!nntp.abs.net!news.itconsult.net!news.guernsey.net!195.226.133.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35091 >OS-X-Server will be like the Developer release of NeXTStep (ie you get the >user version plus the developer tools, such as Project Builder), except that >it also comes with WebObjects (50 transactions per minute) And only available on PowerPC not Intel according to www.apple.com/macosx [)amien #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!theisen From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OSX , Objective C & web programming Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 12:15:48 +0100 Organization: University of Bonn, Germany Lines: 13 Message-ID: <1dl8ws5.7q5xlqski16oN@ascend-tk-p6.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net> <1dl8giu.y1eolq1q5f2cwN@ascend-tk-p54.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascend-tk-p6.rhrz.uni-bonn.de User-Agent: MacSOUP/D-2.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35092 Kay Schulz wrote: > does it come with the ProjectBuilder ? > OSx Server? People on the OSX-ML say that it comes with WO, which comes with PB and IB and WOB and EOFModeler etc... Dirk -- No RISC - No fun: http://www.virtualgamestation.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!master.news.rcn.net!asmang From: asmang@NOSPAMmail.wm.edu (Arun Mangalam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OSX , Objective C & web programming Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 10:17:58 -0500 Organization: College of William & Mary Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net> <1dl8giu.y1eolq1q5f2cwN@ascend-tk-p54.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> <1dl8ws5.7q5xlqski16oN@ascend-tk-p6.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <36951C21.A0AD7C9B@psca.com> <3695c5fd.0@news.guernsey.net> X-Trace: C18KQAy+nPjZRGyQT5KeDX25tYDt6YfgNLMwE/QpNck= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Jan 1999 15:18:13 GMT X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35110 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32611 comp.sys.next.programmer:30219 In article <3695c5fd.0@news.guernsey.net>, "Damien Guard" wrote: > >ONE NOTE OF CLARIFICATION: When one mentions Intel and PPC their are > >two distinct forks in the road regarding Intel. The first that will be > >supported for along time to come is Yellow Box/WebObjects for Windows > >NT. The second is the native release of MacOS X Server for Intel > >Processors. Apple has already said they are committed to releasing > >MacOS X Server 1.0 Customer Release 1 (CR1) on Intel. Now it is their > >perogative to readdress this if it is in their best business interest > >NOT to release it. I am for better or for worse am not too concerned. > >With a world class Server Operating System running on world class PPC > >Hardware at prices Consumers can afford absolutely astounds me. > > Some of us are currently happy with their (Intel) hardware and need to run > some > Windows based apps. > > *However* if Apple release OSX Server on Intel after a few months I may find > that > my switching to Windows reduces as I find OSX alternatives. Eventually (I > am a developer after all) > I may find that I spend all my time in OSX. > > If that became the case then when it was time to upgrade my hardware I'd > have no > reservation about getting a nice fast, good looking blue/white G3 box. > > As it is at the moment I'm not prepared to spend $3000 on a new machine and > $995 on an OS > to find out that in fact it does/doesn't suit me and leave it in a corner > while I plod along on > my Intel box. > > [)amien Why the $3000? Aren't the new machine's base price supposed to be below $2000, somewhere around $1500 I heard. $2500 For the whole deal doesn't sound too bad to me, considering that I get WebObjects and all the rest of YellowBox goodies... I guess everyone to their own. I just hope Apple starts supporting Powerbooks, because those machines are fast... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.maz.net!news-muc.maz.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gumby!newspump.wustl.edu!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: "Rex Dieter" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a NS3.3 driver available for... Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 10:26:00 -0600 Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 17 Message-ID: <775b9o$1ga$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: sting.unl.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35111 comp.sys.next.hardware:35725 william clark wrote in message ... >a Fire GL 1000 Pro from Diamond? pointers to, advice, any info would be >appreciated. Thank you, please reply to clarkb@netcom.com This card is not supported under NEXTSTEP, but you could limp by using the VGA driver (640x480x2), but that is a bit painful. I'd recommend one of the following, in order of preference: ATI Rage (Rage Pro, Rage II). Matrox Millenium I or II an S3 Virge/DX based card (like Diamond Stealth 3D 2000's and 3000's) -- Rex #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.pop.de!news.seicom.net!not-for-mail From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: printing to a Mac network Date: 8 Jan 1999 16:47:16 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 12 Message-ID: <775cqk$kf1$2@news.seicom.net> References: <773ues$g4j$1@news1.sirius.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gate.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35112 "jeffro" wrote: > how would I get the Mac to see the NeXT laserjet? Try my NeXT CAPer Application available at http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@wizards.de] - Home http://www.wizards.de * NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard * Note: [frank@this.net] is still a valid option to send me eMail * "The answer is vi, what was your question...?" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.lightlink.com!news.graphics.cornell.edu!news From: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OSX , Objective C & web programming Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 08 Jan 1999 12:35:14 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics Lines: 39 Sender: westin@BRANCUSI Message-ID: References: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net> <1dl8giu.y1eolq1q5f2cwN@ascend-tk-p54.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> <1dl8ws5.7q5xlqski16oN@ascend-tk-p6.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <36951C21.A0AD7C9B@psca.com> <3695c5fd.0@news.guernsey.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: brancusi.graphics.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35113 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32612 comp.sys.next.programmer:30220 asmang@NOSPAMmail.wm.edu (Arun Mangalam) writes: > In article <3695c5fd.0@news.guernsey.net>, "Damien Guard" > wrote: > > As it is at the moment I'm not prepared to spend $3000 on a new machine and > > $995 on an OS > > to find out that in fact it does/doesn't suit me and leave it in a corner > > while I plod along on > > my Intel box. > > > > [)amien > > Why the $3000? Aren't the new machine's base price supposed to be below > $2000, somewhere around $1500 I heard. $2500 For the whole deal doesn't > sound too bad to me, considering that I get WebObjects and all the rest of > YellowBox goodies... I guess everyone to their own. I just hope Apple > starts supporting Powerbooks, because those machines are fast... But the point is that $2500 constitutes a real commitment for most of us; if Apple allowed people to run OS/X on their Intel boxes for a much lower price, it might just entice more customers into the camp, possibly increasing Apple hardware sales as well. Especially at currently Intel-only shops; it's probably a lot easier to hide/justify a couple hundred dollars and a disk drive for a dual boot than to buy a whole new box just to be able to demonstrate the wonders of NeXTStep/OpenStep/OS-X. Think of it as the thin end of the wedge. Right now I'm typing this on an NT machine; there would be no problem with management if I decided to load Linux or OS/X on a separate partition, but there's no real chance of replacing it with Apple hardware. -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.mathworks.com!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: vadar8@aol.com (Vadar8) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I have a Question for you... Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 8 Jan 1999 18:00:03 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990108130003.00124.00009755@ng38.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35114 Does anyone know if there is a program for PC's which will limit users options. I'm looking for a program that will just let the user open programs I assign to them. I know there is a program similar called "At Ease" for macintosh but I can't find one for PC. Help me out. VADAR8@aol.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.172.3.37!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I have a Question for you... X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <19990108130003.00124.00009755@ng38.aol.com> Lines: 23 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 21:01:41 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.197 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 915829301 209.212.132.197 (Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:01:41 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:01:41 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35115 In <19990108130003.00124.00009755@ng38.aol.com> Vadar8 wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a program for PC's which will limit users options. > I'm looking for a program that will just let the user open programs I assign to > them. > I know there is a program similar called "At Ease" for macintosh but I can't > find one for PC. Help me out. > VADAR8@aol.com This is not a PC support group. The 'next' in comp.sys.next.software refers to the NeXTStep operating system TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news.seicom.net!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!dsinc!nntp.upenn.edu!msunews!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news-in-east1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!netnews1.nw.verio.net!netnews.nwnet.net!nnrp2.ni.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3696B106.8968EA7A@hotmail.com> From: Mark Henry Organization: Transoft Networks, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: gunzip for NeXT Step 3.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 11 Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 01:29:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.180.87.35 NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 17:29:43 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35116 Hi, Does anyone know where I can get gunzip/gnuzip/gzip - whatever its called for NeXT Step 3.0? ... on an ftp site preferably. I can't do anything without it!!! Thanks, Mark #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!192.108.210.10.MISMATCH!news-peer-europe.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.he.net!mercury.cts.com!socal.verio.net!nntp.ni.net!nnrp2.ni.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3696B70A.DBBB8F8E@hotmail.com> From: Mark Henry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 'locking' a NeXT? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 9 Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 01:55:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.180.87.35 NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 17:55:22 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35117 Hi, Is it possible to lock a next station? Or, protect the system and stay logged in? Yours, Mark #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!news.lava.net!news.Hawaii.Edu!news From: ssweet@soest.REMOVE_THIS.hawaii.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for NoteBook.app info Date: 8 Jan 1999 21:02:31 GMT Organization: University of Hawaii Lines: 15 Message-ID: <775rp7$4ep@news.Hawaii.Edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: leviathan.soest.hawaii.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35118 Hi, We have an old app named NoteBook that was published by Millenium Software Labs, Inc. in 1992. I know that Millenium doesn't exist anymore and that the owners (Jayson Adams and Scott Love) have moved on to bigger and better things (several times). Does anybody know if someone else has created a more recent version, or taken over support for the original? We really like this app and would like to get any upgraded version that exists. Thanks in advance. Steve #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!wesley.videotron.net!wagner.videotron.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Subject: Re: 'locking' a NeXT? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: <3696B70A.DBBB8F8E@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3696B70A.DBBB8F8E@hotmail.com> From: email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Lines: 35 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 04:45:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.253.181.54 X-Complaints-To: abuse@videotron.net X-Trace: wagner.videotron.net 915857114 207.253.181.54 (Fri, 08 Jan 1999 23:45:14 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 23:45:14 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35119 >Is it possible to lock a next station? Or, protect the system and >stay logged in? yes (if I understand what you're asking for). Search the archives for BackSpace.app. With the "Screen Locker" option ON, the loaded screen saver module will prevent user input unless a special password is entered (don't forget this password, the app remembers it and will ask it again when restarted). There are lots of funny screen saver bundles, called BackSpace modules (*.BackModule) on the archives. Trivia: there's even a flying toasters module, but it isn't available on the ftp sites for copyright reasons. Ray On 01/08/99, Mark Henry wrote: >Hi, > >Is it possible to lock a next station? Or, protect the system and stay >logged in? > >Yours, > >Mark > > -- Raymond Lutz - 9bit.qc.ca@lutzray - www.9bit.qc.ca/~$myusername - "Les 400 plus fortunes individus de la planete possedent autant que 2.3 MILLIARDS des plus pauvres reunis" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newshub.northeast.verio.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gunzip for NeXT Step 3.0 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3696B106.8968EA7A@hotmail.com> Lines: 20 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 05:03:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.217 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 915858216 209.212.132.217 (Sat, 09 Jan 1999 00:03:36 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 00:03:36 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35120 In <3696B106.8968EA7A@hotmail.com> Mark Henry wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get gunzip/gnuzip/gzip - whatever its > called for NeXT Step 3.0? ... on an ftp site preferably. I don't think it was compiled. It's not available as far as I know. Any chance you could get 3.3 or at least 3.2? That would open up a lot of software for you. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!agate!not-for-mail From: tyf@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Browser that does SSL Date: 9 Jan 1999 05:57:07 GMT Organization: Computer Science Undergraduate Association at UC Berkeley Lines: 11 Message-ID: <776r3j$iin$1@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.csua.berkeley.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35121 Hi, Is there any browser for NeXTSTEP or OPENSTEP that suppports https ? (for secure sites such as www.etrade.com) Many thanks for saving me from windows. -- ----------------------------------- Tin-Yau Fung, tyf@csua.berkeley.edu ----------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news1.best.com!newshub.sirius.com!newsfiler.sirius.com!not-for-mail From: "jeffro" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: printing to a Mac network Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 22:23:24 -0800 Organization: Sirius Solutions Lines: 20 Message-ID: <776t34$t8t$1@news1.sirius.com> References: <773ues$g4j$1@news1.sirius.com> <775cqk$kf1$2@news.seicom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-astk01--052.sirius.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.02 (298) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35122 Thanks for the advise...but I need the Mac to print to a NeXT printer... ---------- In article <775cqk$kf1$2@news.seicom.net>, frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: >"jeffro" wrote: >> how would I get the Mac to see the NeXT laserjet? > >Try my NeXT CAPer Application available at > > http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html > >--- >* Frank M. Siegert [frank@wizards.de] - Home http://www.wizards.de >* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard >* Note: [frank@this.net] is still a valid option to send me eMail >* "The answer is vi, what was your question...?" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.best.com!news.idiom.com!idiom.com!deniseh From: Denise Howard Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gunzip for NeXT Step 3.0 Date: 9 Jan 1999 07:38:20 GMT Organization: Remove capital letters to reply Lines: 15 Message-ID: <77711c$fo9$1@news.idiom.com> References: <3696B106.8968EA7A@hotmail.com> Reply-To: denisehAT@idiomDOT.com NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980117 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/2.2.6-STABLE (i386)) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35123 Mark Henry wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get gunzip/gnuzip/gzip - whatever its > called for NeXT Step 3.0? ... on an ftp site preferably. > > I can't do anything without it!!! Download and install Opener.app on your machine and you'll have it, plus you'll never have to remember any command-line parameters for it or most other achiving/compression utilities again. You'll be able to just double-click on an archive file and Opener will launch and do the rest. Best of all, Opener is freeware! Denise Howard (Opener's mom) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 'locking' a NeXT? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3696B70A.DBBB8F8E@hotmail.com> Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3tBl2.131$sI6.247268@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 05:06:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.217 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 915858367 209.212.132.217 (Sat, 09 Jan 1999 00:06:07 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 00:06:07 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35124 In <3696B70A.DBBB8F8E@hotmail.com> Mark Henry wrote: > Is it possible to lock a next station? Or, protect the system and stay > logged in? Not really. I've never seen a screensaver that wouldn't allow the machine to be rebooted, and they could always pull the plug. However, short of that, you could try BackSpace.app (/NextDeveloper or get Fiend.app) TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!remarQ-easT!supernews.com!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gunzip for NeXT Step 3.0 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <3696B106.8968EA7A@hotmail.com> Lines: 15 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 12:01:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.39.29 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 915883299 24.4.39.29 (Sat, 09 Jan 1999 04:01:39 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 04:01:39 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35125 Get Opener.app (it's freeware, version 3.4b the latest) from: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/archiveutil/Opener/3.4b/ There are many different binaries in this folder, if you don't have an older version of Opener on your machine already, download the ".b.compressed" for your type machine so that it will uncompress. JP -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 'locking' a NeXT? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <3696B70A.DBBB8F8E@hotmail.com> Lines: 8 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 11:47:29 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.39.29 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 915882449 24.4.39.29 (Sat, 09 Jan 1999 03:47:29 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 03:47:29 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35126 BackSpace.app should be in your /NextDeveloper/Demos folder. JP -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.maz.net!diablo.theplanet.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!xmission!news.cc.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!nntp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Services or not? Message-ID: From: root@127.0.0.1 Date: 9 Jan 99 09:40:28 MDT Reply-To: root@127.0.0.1 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp8.pm1.usu.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 13 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35127 I heard a lot of discussion in the past that Services would not be supported in MacOS X Server. Is this confirmed? Are Services not supported any more? The confusion lies in the screen shots on the Apple site. The screen shot of the Workspace Manager shows a Services menu option at the top? So, which is it. Services or not? Thanks for any help clearing up the confusion. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newshub.northeast.verio.net!nntp.newengland.verio.net!news.pn.com!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!not-for-mail From: jon@endeavour.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: re: NIHS? What does it mean? Date: 9 Jan 1999 18:32:11 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 18 Message-ID: <7787bb$om1$1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <36979162.4511@vm.com> Reply-To: jon@haveman.org NNTP-Posting-Host: endeavour.mgmt.purdue.edu X-Trace: mozo.cc.purdue.edu 915906731 25281 128.210.129.136 (9 Jan 1999 18:32:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@mozo.cc.purdue.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Jan 1999 18:32:11 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35128 H = HP S = Sun In article <36979162.4511@vm.com> writes: > I know this is a really stupid question and it's probably answered on a > FAQ somewhere, but when I go preusing archives of NeXT software, I see a > version "N", a version "H" a version "HS" a version "NI" and a version > "NIHS"... > > I realise that these are comiples for individual or multiple platforms, > I can guess that N=NeXT, I=Intel, but I'm lost on the others. > > Some can clear up this mytery so I always choose the correct binary? I > have a black NeXT Monochrome 25Mhz '040 slab. > > Thanks > Brian Cirulnick > techrat@vm.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: A few OSX questions ... Date: 9 Jan 1999 09:27:23 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 11 Message-ID: <7783hr$3ol@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35129 1. Is there an application for watching TV, capturing video and making quicktime movies? 2. Does it come with Netscape Navigator? 3. Is the netinfo package fully compatible with NeXT, so I can use my NeXT printers? 4. Does the WebObjects package come with any sort of simple database package - or do I need a separate machine with Oracle or Sybase on it? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.208.190.2!news.globix.net!client.news.globix.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <36979162.4511@vm.com> From: Spammers Must Die Reply-To: spammers@vm.com Organization: Vanguard Media Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NIHS? What does it mean? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 13:26:57 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.73.238.84 X-Complaints-To: news@globix.net X-Trace: client.news.globix.net 915905905 209.73.238.84 (Sat, 09 Jan 1999 13:18:25 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 13:18:25 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35130 I know this is a really stupid question and it's probably answered on a FAQ somewhere, but when I go preusing archives of NeXT software, I see a version "N", a version "H" a version "HS" a version "NI" and a version "NIHS"... I realise that these are comiples for individual or multiple platforms, I can guess that N=NeXT, I=Intel, but I'm lost on the others. Some can clear up this mytery so I always choose the correct binary? I have a black NeXT Monochrome 25Mhz '040 slab. Thanks Brian Cirulnick techrat@vm.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.pop.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!netnews.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!not-for-mail From: sumit@omni.cc.purdue.edu (Sumitrajit Dhar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Relational Database for NS Date: 9 Jan 1999 18:24:06 -0500 Organization: Purdue University Lines: 6 Distribution: World Message-ID: <778oem$26g@omni.cc.purdue.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: omni.cc.purdue.edu X-Trace: mozo.cc.purdue.edu 915924242 872 128.210.10.14 (9 Jan 1999 23:24:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@mozo.cc.purdue.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Jan 1999 23:24:02 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35131 Hi: Does a relational data base for NS exist? If so where can I find it?? Sumit #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.northeast.verio.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: workspace finder and xxx.tex files Date: 9 Jan 1999 12:02:02 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 30 Message-ID: <778cjq$ffn@slip.net> References: <770jsj$1n@ttacs7.ttu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Keywords: finder,tex,latex Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35132 Just a related comment. You can search the content of xxx.tex files from the UNIX command line with the command : find . -name *.tex -exec grep -l mytext "{}" ";" The search starts from the current directory and tex files with the string mytext are displayed. Emmett Alan A. Barhorst wrote: >Hi, I am trying to get the Workspace finder to search xxx.tex files, >these are TeX files. The finder will not search the contents of these >*.tex files but any other files in the path are searched. Any information >on how to fix this is needed. I am running OS 4.2. Thanks! Please >respond to my email address. > >-- >AB >_______________________________________________________________ >Alan A. Barhorst, PhD, PE | alan@osci.me.ttu.edu >Associate Professor | http://www.osci.ttu.edu/ >Mechanical Engineering | >Texas Tech University | NeXT, MIME, Sun, & ASCII mail #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!newsfeed.ecrc.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WordPerfect having trouble providing services X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 Message-ID: <1bUl2.481$sI6.974807@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:23:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.188 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 915935037 209.212.132.188 (Sat, 09 Jan 1999 21:23:57 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 21:23:57 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35133 WP all of sudden stopped working wrt services. For example, I cannot Define in Webster or Search in Quotations or Open URL (OmniWeb). It will launch the necessary supporting app (ie Webster if Webster isn't already running) but then it immediately says "Error Providing Service Define in Webster" The services are working fine in other apps, ie Edit/Mail.app Any clues what would cause this? I'm stumped. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!ultraneo.neosoft.com!uuneo.neosoft.com!not-for-mail From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: printing to a Mac network Date: 9 Jan 1999 22:18:21 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <778kjd$scs$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <773ues$g4j$1@news1.sirius.com> <775cqk$kf1$2@news.seicom.net> <776t34$t8t$1@news1.sirius.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: scooter-ppp-port-08.neosoft.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Cc: jeffro@sirius.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35134 In <776t34$t8t$1@news1.sirius.com> "jeffro" wrote: > Thanks for the advise...but I need the Mac to print to a NeXT printer... > > > ---------- > In article <775cqk$kf1$2@news.seicom.net>, frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. > Siegert) wrote: > > > >"jeffro" wrote: > >> how would I get the Mac to see the NeXT laserjet? > > > >Try my NeXT CAPer Application available at > > > > http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html Hey, I can vouch for Frank's CAPer. It does just that-- allows my Mac to print on my NeXT printer. I have a simple ethernet connection between my Mac and NeXT and using the Mac Chooser I create a "NeXT Spooler" and can print just fine. In fact its kinda cool the first time to watch the Mac desktop spooler show the file printing, hear my NeXT disk spin as the file is transfered, watch the NeXT PrinterManager Queue show the file printing and then hear the NeXT printer crank up. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <3142915339621@digifix.com> Date: 10 Jan 1999 04:45:03 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 327 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <6325915944426@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:117059 comp.sys.next.announce:4869 comp.sys.next.hardware:35741 comp.sys.next.software:35135 comp.sys.next.misc:29200 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32613 comp.sys.next.bugs:5010 comp.sys.next.programmer:30229 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### From: cranston_snord@pooka.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OSX , Objective C & web programming Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:23:30 GMT Organization: Snord Enterprises Message-ID: <36983845.11959125@news.jps.net> References: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net> <1dl8giu.y1eolq1q5f2cwN@ascend-tk-p54.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> <7k%k2.1461$Vu6.2120511@newshog.newsread.com> <36948d04.0@news.guernsey.net> <772p90$8eg$1@news.spacelab.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.237.196.103 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.237.196.103 X-Trace: 10 Jan 1999 05:43:05 -0800, 208.237.196.103 Lines: 32 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.63.224.240 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.210.46.218!news-west.eli.net!news1.jps.net!208.237.196.103 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35136 If I were Apple, I wouldn't sell the Intel version to anybody. Not unless the driver situation for video/sound/etc cards is improved. Seeing as how Apple can't benefit from writing device drivers for Intel machines in any way, I'd think that it would be up to the developer community to build some new drivers that support the more up-to-date cards. Perhaps that would change Apple's outlook on distributing their OSX Server build for Intel as the promised. Cranston On 7 Jan 1999 17:01:20 GMT, "Charles W. Swiger" wrote: >"Damien Guard" wrote: >>> OS-X-Server will be like the Developer release of NeXTStep (ie you get >>> the user version plus the developer tools, such as Project Builder), >>> except that it also comes with WebObjects (50 transactions per minute) >> >>And only available on PowerPC not Intel according to www.apple.com/macosx > >Hmm. I suspect that if you talk to your friendly, helpful Apple >representative, and you tell them you absolutely need an Intel version, >they'll sell it to you. > >-Chuck > > Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. > ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- > You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Relational Database for NS Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 06:50:09 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 29 Message-ID: <779ij1$q92$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <778oem$26g@omni.cc.purdue.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.249.190.169 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Jan 10 06:50:09 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998H HTTPS/1.04a OmniNetworking/1998H OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998H OmniFoundation/1998H OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x5.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 207.249.190.169 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35138 In article <778oem$26g@omni.cc.purdue.edu>, sumit@omni.cc.purdue.edu (Sumitrajit Dhar) wrote: > > Does a relational data base for NS exist? If so where can I find > it?? Yes, there are several. Commercial: Openbase http://www.openbase.com/ SmartBase ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/next/OpenStep/database/application/SmartBase.1.5.1.I.b. tar.gz Free: Postgres95 ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next/postgres95 MiniSQL ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/database/msql.1.0.5.1.s.tar.gz If you plan to use EOF, you will need also the adaptor. Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Cliff Leong" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: <7783hr$3ol@slip.net> Subject: Re: A few OSX questions ... Lines: 11 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:48:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.2.85.55 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.nj.home.com 915994129 24.2.85.55 (Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:48:49 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:48:49 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35139 >4. Does the WebObjects package come with any sort of simple database > package - or do I need a separate machine with Oracle or Sybase on it? It comes with OpenBase Lite. ---- c l i f f l e o n g - leong@home.com http://members.home.net/leong #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newspump.sol.net!news.mcs.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!not-for-mail From: "Tom Scheiber" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC sound driver Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 21:50:18 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <779809$2mn$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: scheiber.pr.mcs.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35140 I have recently inherited a color station running NextStep 3.3 which has SoftPC 3.0. It works fine except for the sound. According to the help system, I should be able to make this work. It doesn't have a sound driver installed, just the midi drivers. I got to a point where it asked for an Insignia driver called sndblst.drv. Does anyone either have the appropriate version of this file or have some knowledgable advice on how to resolve this problem? Tom Scheiber scheiber@mcs.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!isdnet!news-ge.switch.ch!cern.ch!news From: root@nextatd01.cern.ch\ (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: app registry Date: 10 Jan 1999 21:05:48 GMT Organization: CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Lines: 8 Message-ID: <77b4nc$8vj$1@sunnews.cern.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextatd01.cern.ch X-Trace: sunnews.cern.ch 916002348 9203 (None) 137.138.89.86 X-Complaints-To: news@sunnews.cern.ch Keywords: application registry Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35141 hello, i have a simple problem, i hope the answer is also simple. how do i modify the "list" of app's responsible for a file type. e.g. i have two apps which can handle snd files, i want the 1st but the os gives me the second. i should be able to control this. thanks for any suggestion #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: audio cd Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:59:43 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 24 Message-ID: <77dhmt$2jv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <77d8gg$di4$1@info.service.rug.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.249.186.84 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Jan 11 18:59:43 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998H HTTPS/1.04a OmniNetworking/1998H OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998H OmniFoundation/1998H OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x2.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 207.249.186.84 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35142 In article <77d8gg$di4$1@info.service.rug.nl>, Emile de Kleine wrote: > How can I copy the contents of an audio cd from my cdrom drive to my > hard disk? Does a suitable app. exist? OmniCD does it with SCSI CD-ROM drives that use 12-byte reads, currently Sony/Matshita/Apple and Plextor. This is from the README inside the app that also says that recording doesn't work with ATAPI CD-ROMs. You can find it at: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/cdrom/OmniCD.0.6.1.NIHS.b.tar.gz or ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/NEXTSTEP/tools/cdrom/OmniCD.0.6.1.NIHS.b.tar.gz or ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/NEXTSTEP/OmniCD.0.6.1.NIHS.b.tar.gz Regards. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!news-muc.maz.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.225!attworldnet!newsadm From: "L.C. Loggins" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need Boot Disk for black cube Date: 11 Jan 1999 03:12:58 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 5 Message-ID: <36996DC1.599D5819@worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.72.89.158 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:35744 comp.sys.next.software:35143 When power on I get the "system loading" indication forever. I tried to "command ~", in order to use fdisk, but the box doesn't respond to the command. I hace a IBM PC as other computer, so I need a boot disk specific to the neXT machine, i think 3.2? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!198.138.0.5!newshub.northeast.verio.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: app registry X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77b4nc$8vj$1@sunnews.cern.ch> <19990110172459.05605.00005884@ng-ch1.aol.com> Lines: 13 Message-ID: <13fm2.2379$sI6.1822365@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:25:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.210 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916028733 209.212.132.210 (Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:25:33 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:25:33 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35144 Yes, Will has the right answer... and if I may make a suggestion: stop logging in as root before you destroy your entire system someday (not IF but WHEN... mistakes happen) TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.maz.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon-sf.pbi.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OSX , Objective C & web programming Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net> <1dl8giu.y1eolq1q5f2cwN@ascend-tk-p54.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> <7k%k2.1461$Vu6.2120511@newshog.newsread.com> <36948d04.0@news.guernsey.net> <772p90$8eg$1@news.spacelab.net> <36983845.11959125@news.jps.net> In-reply-to: cranston_snord@pooka.com's message of Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:23:30 GMT Date: 10 Jan 99 20:38:08 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.79.56.105 X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: typhoon-sf.pbi.net 916048790 209.79.56.105 (Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:59:50 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:59:50 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35145 In article <36983845.11959125@news.jps.net> cranston_snord@pooka.com writes: If I were Apple, I wouldn't sell the Intel version to anybody. Not unless the driver situation for video/sound/etc cards is improved. Probably more than 90% of the people who want MacOS X Server already have hardware that ran under RDR2. _My_ hardware has been running fine since NS3.3. Seeing as how Apple can't benefit from writing device drivers for Intel machines in any way, I'd think that it would be up to the developer community to build some new drivers that support the more up-to-date cards. Perhaps that would change Apple's outlook on distributing their OSX Server build for Intel as the promised. I've been doing lite research intending to write some MacOS X Server drivers for a couple cards I've long had my eyes on. But write drivers using NS3.3 for OS4.2? Hardly worth the effort. Later, -- scott hess (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/ #################################################################### From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Browser that does SSL Date: 11 Jan 1999 12:07:49 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / CC Lines: 37 Distribution: world Message-ID: <77cpil$j3t$1@newshost> References: <776r3j$iin$1@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nimrod Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.csl-gmbh.net!blackbush.xlink.net!news-in.ivm.net!newshost.uni-koblenz.de!not-for-mail Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35146 In article <776r3j$iin$1@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Tin-Yau Fung) writes: > > Is there any browser for NeXTSTEP or OPENSTEP that suppports https ? > (for secure sites such as www.etrade.com) Many thanks for > saving me from windows. There is a bundle for OmniWeb 3. Works fine for me. For OmniWeb 3.0beta8b, get the HTTPS package from e.g. PEANUTS: ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep/connectivity/www/plugin/HTTPS.1.04a.m. NIS.bs.tar.gz The acompanying README of that package addidtionally says: ============== ATTENTION: Before you can install this Package you must install the SSLeay.pkg (Version 0.9.0 Port 1) in /LocalLibrary/Frameworks, without this Framework the bundle doesn't work. People outside of the USA and Canada can obtain this framework via ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/SSLeay.0.9.0.1.m.N I S.b.tar.gz People inside the USA and Canada should check ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/openstep/mach/sourcelibrary/frameworks or write to Rex Dieter to get a RSAref-Version of this framework. ============== Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Universitaet Koblenz, FB Informatik | Fon:+49 261 287-2769 Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany | Fax:+49 261 287-2745 NeXT/MIME/Email: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de [Please drop the obvious part in my Email-address to reply.] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!not-for-mail From: Ryan Scott Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Update from NextStep 3.2 to 3.3 (Intel) Date: 8 Jan 1999 17:20:56 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 27 Message-ID: <775epo$n5c$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <3695BFD4.AB7C5A4B@bayer-blindenbund.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: vader.engr.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Cc: lg@bayer-blindenbund.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35147 comp.sys.next.hardware:35747 comp.sys.next.marketplace:22667 In <3695BFD4.AB7C5A4B@bayer-blindenbund.de> Adrian Keller wrote: > Hi ! > > I've got the 3.2 Intel Version, want to install it, but I've heard that > 3.3 has more drivers, better support. > > Is there an update possibility ? From 3.2 to 3.3 ? Does anybody sell it > anymore ? > > TIA, > Adrian > > Try http://www.blackholeinc.com/ or http://www.deepspacetech/ one of them may still be selling excess copies. -- ________________________________________________ Ryan P. Scott Laser and Electro-Optics Research Group UC Davis - Department of Applied Science Tel: (530)754-4358 Fax: (530)752-1652 Email: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu ________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!diablo.theplanet.net!remarQ-uK!supernews.com!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!surfnet.nl!rug.nl!not-for-mail From: Emile de Kleine Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: audio cd Date: 11 Jan 1999 16:22:40 GMT Organization: Rijksuniversiteit Groningen Lines: 4 Message-ID: <77d8gg$di4$1@info.service.rug.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: huygens.med.rug.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35148 How can I copy the contents of an audio cd from my cdrom drive to my hard disk? Does a suitable app. exist? Emile #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!news.idt.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: usna92@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: printing to a Mac network Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:46:59 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 45 Message-ID: <77do03$8hs$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <773ues$g4j$1@news1.sirius.com> <775cqk$kf1$2@news.seicom.net> <776t34$t8t$1@news1.sirius.com> <778kjd$scs$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.120.147.148 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Jan 11 20:46:59 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.5; Mac_PowerPC) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x14.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 131.120.147.148 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35149 In article <778kjd$scs$1@uuneo.neosoft.com>, rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) wrote: > In <776t34$t8t$1@news1.sirius.com> "jeffro" wrote: > > Thanks for the advise...but I need the Mac to print to a NeXT > printer... > > > > > > ---------- > > In article <775cqk$kf1$2@news.seicom.net>, frank@this.NO_SPAM.net > (Frank M. > > Siegert) wrote: > > > > > > >"jeffro" wrote: > > >> how would I get the Mac to see the NeXT laserjet? > > > > > >Try my NeXT CAPer Application available at > > > > > > http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html > > Hey, I can vouch for Frank's CAPer. It does just that-- > allows my Mac to print on my NeXT printer. I have a > simple ethernet connection between my Mac and NeXT and > using the Mac Chooser I create a "NeXT Spooler" and > can print just fine. In fact its kinda cool the first > time to watch the Mac desktop spooler show the file > printing, hear my NeXT disk spin as the file is transfered, > watch the NeXT PrinterManager Queue show the file printing > and then hear the NeXT printer crank up. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK > rlove@neosoft.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The whole think is actually easier than using CAP. Place a netinfo host entry for your mac on the NeXT. Edit the host.lpd file in the /etc directory by placing the netinfo host name of the mac in the file. Then using laserwriter 8 utility, make a printer for the next. You can download the correct PPD from Adobe. This should let you print to the next without using CAP. Jim Rowland usna92@earthlink -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!208.128.117.2!newsrelay.courtave.net!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: A few OSX questions ... Date: 11 Jan 1999 21:38:11 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 18 Message-ID: <77dr03$imc$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <1dlfvi9.140muxp100hfkN@ascend-tk-p161.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: sting.unl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35150 In article <1dlfvi9.140muxp100hfkN@ascend-tk-p161.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) writes: > Emmett McLean wrote: > > 2. Does it come with Netscape Navigator? > > Mac OS X Server does have NN only in the Blue Box (Mac OS 8 > compatibility environment) and nobody knows if networking is usable > there. Who ever said that?!@#@#? FYI, networking is most definitely usable in the blue box. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-feed.fnsi.net!nntp.msen.com!news.altair.com!uwvax!nova10.cs.wisc.edu!finton From: finton@nova10.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Y2K compliance for black hardware? Date: 12 Jan 1999 05:45:13 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <77enh9$4ls@spool.cs.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nova10.cs.wisc.edu Keywords: y2k, nextstep, nextstation Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35151 Someone in the next.marketplace group commented that NS 3.3 on a slab is not Y2K compliant. Is this true? Anyone know if there are Y2K problems with the black boxes themselves, or which (any? all?) of the NS / OS versions are compliant? I'm running 3.2 User / Developer on a TurboColor, with Seagate main drive, Fujitsu external SCSI drive, Sony 2x CD-ROM, and Olympus SYS.230 MO drive. . . I was thinking of just setting my clock ahead and seeing what happens, but I happen to be writing a Ph.D. dissertation on this machine, and I'm a little squeamish. . . Thanks in advance, David Finton #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.225!attworldnet!newsadm From: "L.C. Loggins" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Will PAY! Date: 12 Jan 1999 06:24:22 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 19 Message-ID: <369AEC1A.57ED2FC6@worldnet.att.net> References: <36996DC1.599D5819@worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.72.91.241 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:35754 comp.sys.next.software:35152 Can someone send me, by snail mail, the floppy boot image for the black cube, I think it 3.2. I'm having trouble getting the disk necessary to make the dos conversion, i think its rawrite.exe??. At this point, it would be quicker just to have someone send the proper disk, I'll pay your fees for this service--and I thank you for your indulgence thus far. LC Loggins 3027 Morcom Ave Oakland, CA 94619 "L.C. Loggins" wrote: > When power on I get the "system loading" indication forever. I tried to > "command ~", in order to use fdisk, but the box doesn't respond to the > command. I hace a IBM PC as other computer, so I need a boot disk > specific to the neXT machine, i think 3.2? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!nntp.teleport.com!news1.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: "Morgan Hough" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EEG data acq. software for NS/OS Organization: Reed College X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Lines: 5 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:40:58 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.223.181.203 X-Complaints-To: news@teleport.com X-Trace: news1.teleport.com 916116076 128.223.181.203 (Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:41:16 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:41:16 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35153 Does anyone know of a EEG data acquisition software package for NS/OS. I seem to remember it being written by a German individual/company but I can't find the url anywhere. Any leads would be appreciated. Morgan Hough #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!isdnet!uu.fr!imaginet.net!imaginet.fr!usenet From: latitude@imaginet.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for EOF 1.1 for Nexstep 3.3 Date: 11 Jan 1999 23:06:44 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 4 Message-ID: <77e064$755$2@news.imaginet.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.68.9.63 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35154 Sender latitude@imaginet.fr I am looking foe EOF 1.1 (Enterprise Objects Framework Release 1.1) if someone still has it please let me know. Thank you #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!theisen From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: A few OSX questions ... Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:53:10 +0100 Organization: University of Bonn, Germany Lines: 22 Message-ID: <1dli26j.13xuxaz1smq1t2N@ascend-tk-p186.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <7783hr$3ol@slip.net> <1dlfvi9.140muxp100hfkN@ascend-tk-p161.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <77dr03$imc$1@unlnews.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascend-tk-p186.rhrz.uni-bonn.de User-Agent: MacSOUP/D-2.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35155 Rex Dieter wrote: > > Emmett McLean wrote: > > > 2. Does it come with Netscape Navigator? > > > > Mac OS X Server does have NN only in the Blue Box (Mac OS 8 > > compatibility environment) and nobody knows if networking is usable > > there. > > Who ever said that?!@#@#? FYI, networking is most definitely usable in the > blue box. It depends what you mean by usable. I understand that there must be at least... 1. Ethernet (with ONE IP for the box) 2. PPP ...to please a majority of users. So you know. Please tell us. Dirk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Y2K compliance for black hardware? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77enh9$4ls@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Lines: 32 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:05:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.89 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916142752 209.212.132.89 (Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:05:52 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:05:52 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35156 In <77enh9$4ls@spool.cs.wisc.edu> David Finton wrote: > Someone in the next.marketplace group commented that NS 3.3 > on a slab is not Y2K compliant. Is this true? Yes it is true. See the ``Re: Is NeXT Y2K compliant?'' thread on news: comp.sys.next.sysadmin > Anyone know if there are Y2K problems with the black boxes > themselves, or which (any? all?) of the NS / OS versions are > compliant? It is an OS problem, and one that existed in OS 4.2 > I was thinking of just setting my clock ahead and seeing what > happens, but I happen to be writing a Ph.D. dissertation on this > machine, and I'm a little squeamish. . . You can always use 1972 instead of 2000 (well, it will work for most things, but not all I guesss) TjL ps -- followups set to comp.sys.next.sysadmin so we only have one such thread at a time ;-) -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will PAY! X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <36996DC1.599D5819@worldnet.att.net> <369AEC1A.57ED2FC6@worldnet.att.net> Lines: 27 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:08:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.89 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916142900 209.212.132.89 (Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:08:20 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:08:20 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:35758 comp.sys.next.software:35157 In <369AEC1A.57ED2FC6@worldnet.att.net> "L.C. Loggins" wrote: > Can someone send me, by snail mail, the floppy boot image for the black > cube, I think it 3.2. I'm having trouble getting the disk necessary to make > the dos conversion, i think its rawrite.exe??. > > At this point, it would be quicker just to have someone send the proper > disk, I'll pay your fees for this service--and I thank you for your > indulgence thus far. > > LC Loggins > 3027 Morcom Ave > Oakland, CA 94619 I'll drop one in today's mail. No fee necessary. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!nntp.flash.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!news.kigam.re.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet From: "Seung-joo Lee" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: workspace finder and xxx.tex files Date: 12 Jan 1999 15:25:02 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Lines: 28 Message-ID: <77fpge$q9m$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> References: <770jsj$1n@ttacs7.ttu.edu> <778cjq$ffn@slip.net> Reply-To: feelfree@ppp.kornet21.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.43.28 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Cc: emclean@slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35158 In <778cjq$ffn@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > > Just a related comment. > > You can search the content of xxx.tex files from > the UNIX command line with the command : > > find . -name *.tex -exec grep -l mytext "{}" ";" > > The search starts from the current directory > and tex files with the string mytext are displayed. > > When using a metacharater( * in the example above), quoting or \ is needed, I think. (again in the example above, find . -name \*.tex -exec grep -l mytext "{}" ";") -- "Where there is a will, there is a way" Seung-joo Lee feelfree@ppp.kornet21.net (NeXTmail Prefered!) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: TjL X-Sender: public@yoda.fdt.net Subject: JetPilot & NeXT Printer -- need accounting! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 19 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:26:01 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.128.32 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916172797 209.212.128.32 (Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:26:37 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:26:37 EDT Organization: Florida Digital Turnpike (fdt.net) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35159 Hey folks I have a free license for JetPilot for the NeXT printer, and the one feature I used to use was accounting (tracking what you have printed). I can't seem to figure it out any more (how to get accounting working is all I really need to do) and I can't find the email I had explaining the process. Can anyone give an explanation on how to get this running? Thanks! TjL -- Email address is valid as-is #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!agate!usenet From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: JetPilot & NeXT Printer -- need accounting! Date: 12 Jan 1999 21:21:45 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <77ged9$bk0$1@agate.berkeley.edu> References: Reply-To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: moica.berkeley.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35160 In article TjL writes: >I have a free license for JetPilot for the NeXT printer, and the one >feature I used to use was accounting (tracking what you have printed). > >Can anyone give an explanation on how to get this running? Thanks! I don't know if JetPilot affects in any way, but it it still retains if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver; I believe it is a matter of adding an entry: af = /usr/adm/np.acct; to the printer's entry in NetInfo (and restarting). Also see "man pac" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!newsfeed.ecrc.net!jupiter.NIC.DTAG.DE!news.online.de!not-for-mail!thomas From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Y2K compliance for black hardware? Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:33:02 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Lines: 25 Sender: thomas@news.online.de (thomas) Message-ID: <1999Jan12.123302.542@news.online.de> References: <77enh9$4ls@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Reply-To: thf@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pc19f12c4.dip.t-online.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Server-Date: 12 Jan 1999 15:19:30 GMT Cc: finton@nova10.cs.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35161 In <77enh9$4ls@spool.cs.wisc.edu> David Finton wrote: > Someone in the next.marketplace group commented that NS 3.3 > on a slab is not Y2K compliant. Is this true? > > Anyone know if there are Y2K problems with the black boxes > themselves, or which (any? all?) of the NS / OS versions are > compliant? I'm running 3.2 User / Developer on a TurboColor, > with Seagate main drive, Fujitsu external SCSI drive, Sony > 2x CD-ROM, and Olympus SYS.230 MO drive. . . > > I was thinking of just setting my clock ahead and seeing what > happens, but I happen to be writing a Ph.D. dissertation on this > machine, and I'm a little squeamish. . . I have set my clock to 2000 (NS3.2, m68k) and have found only minor annoyances. Get the patched 'date' command form the net. Regarding your dissertation: I'm sure you have frequent backups ? And if there is really something happening nobody thought of, you can still set your clock back to 1999. So nothing to worry about. -- Java: Write once, debug anywhere #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!newsfeed01.btx.dtag.de!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: wsturner@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Check this out - Great New Y2K Site Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:49:39 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 7 Message-ID: <77gjhv$93b$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <77enh9$4ls@spool.cs.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.58.2.132 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Jan 12 22:49:39 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0b2; Windows 95) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x1.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 206.58.2.132 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35162 Check out this great new y2k site, now on a faster, more reliable server....all the y2k info. you need! http://www.prorege.com/North/ -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.pop.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!wesley.videotron.net!wagner.videotron.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Subject: Re: EEG data acq. software for NS/OS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: In-Reply-To: From: email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3nRm2.514$FJ5.859@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:01:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.253.181.56 X-Complaints-To: abuse@videotron.net X-Trace: wagner.videotron.net 916185663 207.253.181.56 (Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:01:03 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:01:03 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35163 On 01/11/99, "Morgan Hough" wrote: >Does anyone know of a EEG data acquisition software package for >NS/OS. I seem to remember it being written by a German > individual/company but I can't find the url anywhere. Any leads > would be appreciated. > >Morgan Hough > Stefan Schnieder, (also behind LatinByrd, the RTF-HTML converter) is in fact austrian. You can read about RealTime.app there: http://www.noir.net/sss/RealTime And there is a north american distributor: http://www.scribex.com/English/RealTime/index.html Ray -- Raymond Lutz - 9bit.qc.ca@lutzray - www.9bit.qc.ca/~$myusername - "Les 400 plus fortunes individus de la planete possedent autant que 2.3 MILLIARDS des plus pauvres reunis" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news.ndh.net!newsfeed.tli.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!nntp.giganews.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tn.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <369BF833.1FAC2742@home.com> From: msms X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: FS: NeXTStation Turbo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 13 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:31:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.2.107.25 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tn.home.com 916191112 24.2.107.25 (Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:31:52 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:31:52 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:35770 comp.sys.next.software:35164 NeXTStation Turbo Slab for sale: 64MB RAM 33mhz 68040 1.2GB Quantum Fireball or 250MB Seagate NEXTSTEP 3.3 User and Developer CDs Fatted Calf software CD 17" Hitachi black monitor Make offer -- John #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.225!attworldnet!newsadm From: "L.C. Loggins" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will PAY! Date: 13 Jan 1999 02:15:23 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 30 Message-ID: <369C0342.BC47BE07@worldnet.att.net> References: <36996DC1.599D5819@worldnet.att.net> <369AEC1A.57ED2FC6@worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.72.89.254 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:35773 comp.sys.next.software:35165 That's cool, Thanks!! TjL wrote: > In <369AEC1A.57ED2FC6@worldnet.att.net> "L.C. Loggins" wrote: > > Can someone send me, by snail mail, the floppy boot image for the black > > cube, I think it 3.2. I'm having trouble getting the disk necessary to > make > > the dos conversion, i think its rawrite.exe??. > > > > At this point, it would be quicker just to have someone send the proper > > disk, I'll pay your fees for this service--and I thank you for your > > indulgence thus far. > > > > LC Loggins > > 3027 Morcom Ave > > Oakland, CA 94619 > > I'll drop one in today's mail. > > No fee necessary. > > TjL > > -- > "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that > was possible. Then it dawned on me..... > AOL is sending out CDs now." - me > (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.az.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <369C34A8.83879942@home.com> From: Chevell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Openstep on Black HW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 05:52:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.1.227.149 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.az.home.com 916206759 24.1.227.149 (Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:52:39 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:52:39 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35166 I am in the midst of trying to install OPENSTEP 4.2 over NeXTSTEP 3.1 on a NeXTStation color turbo. I get the following error when planing the upgrade with the upgrader.app on the OS4.2 CD: objc: IXStoreFile: does not recognize selector-blockExists: I got the SW from an undisclosed source and have no reading materials. I have no idea if I'm going about this the right way. I don't care about loosing the data on the drive if I have to, I just need to get this thing up and running ASAP. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --Chevell #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.idt.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-hh.maz.net!desire.lavielle.com!news From: vkyr@lavielle.com (Valentino Kyriakides) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NT printing to NeXTcomputer problems... Date: 13 Jan 1999 12:22:22 GMT Organization: Lavielle Lines: 20 Message-ID: <77i35u$pur@desire.lavielle.com> Reply-To: vkyr@lavielle.com NNTP-Posting-Host: vkyr-home.lav.de X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.96 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35167 Hi, I've tried out the NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.zip stuff from Yiannis Michopoulos and relized that it doesn't work under my NT and NeXTstation ethernet connection. NT side test print jobs never leave the NT PrinterManager Spooler for the setup remote NeXTstation NeXT laserprinter. With other words, the NeXT Local_Printer queue is always empty nothing arrives through my little net (?). But I can access (via ping, ftp and telnet) my NeXTstation from the NT computer without problems. It seems that the NT setups I made for TCP/IP printing to my NeXT's IP-address and the Local_Printer NeXT printer queue as printername (queue) doesn't work at all? Does somebody have an Idea what might wents wrong here? Are there beside the installation of the MS TCP/IP printer support services and the descriptions in the NeXTprinterWNT40.README other things to be enabled on the NT or NeXTstep side? I use NT 40 with Service Pack 3 and on my NeXTstation NeXTstep 3.3 with an original NeXTlaser printer. Both computers are connected via a crossed Ethernet cable and I have setup the NT TCP/IP DNS stuff. I can ping from one computer to the other and can correctly access the NeXTstation from the NT computer via ftp and telnet. Does somebody succeeded with NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.zip or can at least tell me how to get the printing from NT over the ethernet to a NeXTcomputer managed? I know that most of you will now say that I should try using Samba instead, but if the above mentioned procedure doesn't work, I doubt that using Samba will work correctly for my NT/NeXTstep connectivity. Thanks in advance Valentino -- Valentino Kyriakides Email: vkyr@lavielle.com (Sorry no NeXTmail here) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-hh.maz.net!desire.lavielle.com!news From: vkyr@lavielle.com (Valentino Kyriakides) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NT printing to NeXTcomputer problems... Date: 13 Jan 1999 12:19:12 GMT Organization: Lavielle Lines: 20 Message-ID: <77i300$ps5@desire.lavielle.com> Reply-To: vkyr@lavielle.com NNTP-Posting-Host: vkyr-home.lav.de X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.96 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35168 Hi, I've tried out the NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.zip stuff from Yiannis Michopoulos and relized that it doesn't work under my NT and NeXTstation ethernet connection. NT side test print jobs never leave the NT PrinterManager Spooler for the setup remote NeXTstation NeXT laserprinter. With other words, the NeXT Local_Printer queue is always empty nothing arrives through my little net (?). But I can access (via ping, ftp and telnet) my NeXTstation from the NT computer without problems. It seems that the NT setups I made for TCP/IP printing to my NeXT's IP-address and the Local_Printer NeXT printer queue as printername (queue) doesn't work at all? Does somebody have an Idea what might wents wrong here? Are there beside the installation of the MS TCP/IP printer support services and the descriptions in the NeXTprinterWNT40.README other things to be enabled on the NT or NeXTstep side? I use NT 40 with Service Pack 3 and on my NeXTstation NeXTstep 3.3 with an original NeXTlaser printer. Both computers are connected via a crossed Ethernet cable and I have setup the NT TCP/IP DNS stuff. I can ping from one computer to the other and can correctly access the NeXTstation from the NT computer via ftp and telnet. Does somebody succeeded with NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.zip or can at least tell me how to get the printing from NT over the ethernet to a NeXTcomputer managed? I know that most of you will now say that I should try using Samba instead, but if the above mentioned procedure doesn't work, I doubt that using Samba will work correctly for my NT/NeXTstep connectivity. Thanks in advance Valentino -- Valentino Kyriakides Email: vkyr@lavielle.com (Sorry no NeXTmail here) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!feeder.qis.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep on Black HW Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 13 Jan 1999 13:06:22 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <369C34A8.83879942@home.com> Message-ID: <19990113080622.17365.00000003@ng55.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35169 One other person here has reported difficulties with up-grading over NS 3.x. I'd suspect that the Upgrade.app is just for 4.0/1 installations. Try restarting from the floppy and doing a completely fresh install (after backing up your data). William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed01.btx.dtag.de!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!news-rly-1.sprintlink.net!news-east1.sprintlink.net!news-peer-europe.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!masternews.telia.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newsfeed.mad.ttd.net!newsfeed.bcn.ttd.net!lola!lola.ctv.es!not-for-mail From: "Download" Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,chile.mercado.software,chinese.comp.software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.software.crosspoint,de.comm.software.forte-agent,de.comm.software.mailreader.misc,de.comm.software.mailreader.pegasus,de.comm.sof Subject: DOWNLOAD PIX FROM THE NEWS WITH AN ONLY CLICK Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:10:57 +0100 Organization: - Lines: 8 Message-ID: <77hv4l$3gi$2@lola.ctv.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: infon624.jet.es X-Trace: lola.ctv.es 916226005 3602 195.55.158.112 (13 Jan 1999 11:13:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@lola.ctv.es NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Jan 1999 11:13:25 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.software-eng:65300 comp.sys.next.software:35170 chinese.comp.software:2310 de.comm.software.crosspoint:27488 de.comm.software.forte-agent:7218 de.comm.software.mailreader.misc:684 de.comm.software.mailreader.pegasus:1051 Download thousands of pix from thew news with an only click. FREE SOFTWARE http://www.lanzadera.com/pix4u/ .. . #################################################################### MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: JetPilot & NeXT Printer -- need accounting! References: From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) NNTP-Posting-Host: wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Message-ID: <369ca338.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: 13 Jan 99 13:44:24 GMT Lines: 24 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uni-wuerzburg.de!wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35171 TjL wrote: ---snip--- >I can't seem to figure it out any more (how to get accounting working >is all I really need to do) and I can't find the email I had >explaining the process. > >Can anyone give an explanation on how to get this running? Thanks! AFAIR you need to set up the NeXTprinter with the JetPilotManager.app. The accounting is then looged in /usr/adm/JetPilot.accounting and you can read out and have statistics with JetPilotManager.app. I never started accounting by hand ... greets Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Timothy J Luoma X-Sender: public@yoda.fdt.net Subject: Re: JetPilot & NeXT Printer -- need accounting! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <77ged9$bk0$1@agate.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 19 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:16:41 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.128.32 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916237041 209.212.128.32 (Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:17:21 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:17:21 EDT Organization: Florida Digital Turnpike (fdt.net) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35172 On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > JetPilot tracks the name and (most importantly for me) the filename which > was printed. Unfortunately the above post was incorrect. JetPilot (which I did get working) shows just about every conceivable piece of information you could want -- except the filename of the printed file. Does anyone know how to keep track of this? (Please, no privacy concerns, I am the only one using this printer, so the only one whose privacy would be in danger would be my own.) TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-hh.maz.net!desire.lavielle.com!news From: Valentino Kyriakides Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: H: NT to NeXT printing problems... Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:28:58 +0100 Organization: Lavielle Lines: 33 Message-ID: <369CADA9.14D69A7B@lavielle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.lavielle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35173 Hi, I've tried out the NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.zip stuff from Yiannis Michopoulos and relized that it doesn't work under my NT and NeXTstation ethernet connection. NT side test print jobs never leave the NT PrinterManager Spooler for the setup remote NeXTstation NeXT laserprinter. With other words, the NeXT Local_Printer queue is always empty nothing arrives through my little net (?). But I can access (via ping, ftp and telnet) my NeXTstation from the NT computer without problems. It seems that the NT setups I made for TCP/IP printing to my NeXT's IP-address and the Local_Printer NeXT printer queue as printername (queue) doesn't work at all? Does somebody have an Idea what might wents wrong here? Are there beside the installation of the MS TCP/IP printer support services and the descriptions in the NeXTprinterWNT40.README other things to be enabled on the NT or NeXTstep side? I use NT 40 with Service Pack 3 and on my NeXTstation NeXTstep 3.3 with an original NeXTlaser printer. Both computers are connected via a crossed Ethernet cable and I have setup the NT TCP/IP DNS stuff. I can ping from one computer to the other and can correctly access the NeXTstation from the NT computer via ftp and telnet. Does somebody succeeded with NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.zip or can at least tell me how to get the printing from NT over the ethernet to a NeXTcomputer managed? I know that most of you will now say that I should try using Samba instead, but if the above mentioned procedure doesn't work, I doubt that using Samba will work correctly for my NT/NeXTstep connectivity. Thanks in advance Valentino -- Valentino Kyriakides mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com (Sorry no NeXTmail here) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!netnews.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!crcnews.unl.edu!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: A few OSX questions ... Date: 13 Jan 1999 14:44:00 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 38 Message-ID: <77ibfg$21o$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <1dli26j.13xuxaz1smq1t2N@ascend-tk-p186.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: mathstat.unl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35174 In article <1dli26j.13xuxaz1smq1t2N@ascend-tk-p186.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) writes: > Rex Dieter wrote: > > > Emmett McLean wrote: > > > > 2. Does it come with Netscape Navigator? > > > > > > Mac OS X Server does have NN only in the Blue Box (Mac OS 8 > > > compatibility environment) and nobody knows if networking is usable > > > there. > > > > Who ever said that?!@#@#? FYI, networking is most definitely usable in > > the blue box. > > It depends what you mean by usable. My point was this: Has someone/anyone actually SAID that networking is NOT usable in Blue Box? If they did, I really hope they qualify what THEY mean by unusable. > I understand that there must be at least... > 1. Ethernet (with ONE IP for the box) > 2. PPP > ...to please a majority of users. > So you know. Please tell us. I haven't used MacOS X Server yet, and most likely never will, as we only have Intel boxes... but that's another can of worms... Despite that, I know that TCP/IP is fully available from BlueBox. I'm not sure about this one, but PPP (most likely) is controlled by the OS at large, and NOT BlueBox, so the point is mute; PPP (most likely) will/can be available, just not in the classic MacOS/Bluebox sense. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!howland.erols.net!hub1.ispnews.com!news14.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <369CB288.A57ED5BE@kana.com> From: Patrick T Hickey Organization: Irrationally Small Modular Office Advocacy Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep on Black HW References: <369C34A8.83879942@home.com> <19990113080622.17365.00000003@ng55.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.107.225.120 X-Trace: news14.ispnews.com 916238984 206.107.225.120 (Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:49:44 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:49:44 EDT Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 06:49:44 -0800 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35175 With the turbo units you can boot directly off the CD-ROM and build the boot disk. DUnno why you'd want to muck with the floppy unless the unit is the 25mHz non-turbo. bsd(n,0,0) sdmach rootdev=sdn n is the unit name of the CD-ROM (right off the Apple support pages.....) http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2662.htmld/2662.html regards, patrick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.mccc.edu!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Timothy J Luoma X-Sender: public@yoda.fdt.net Subject: Re: JetPilot & NeXT Printer -- need accounting! In-Reply-To: <77ged9$bk0$1@agate.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <77ged9$bk0$1@agate.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 35 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:05:04 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.128.32 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916236343 209.212.128.32 (Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:05:43 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:05:43 EDT Organization: Florida Digital Turnpike (fdt.net) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35176 Unfortunately this is a different issue. JetPilot tracks the name and (most importantly for me) the filename which was printed. Or am I the only one who wonders -- hey, did I actually print that memo out that I was working on earlier? TjL On 12 Jan 1999, Izumi Ohzawa wrote: > In article TjL > writes: > > >I have a free license for JetPilot for the NeXT printer, and the one > >feature I used to use was accounting (tracking what you have printed). > > > >Can anyone give an explanation on how to get this running? Thanks! > > I don't know if JetPilot affects in any way, but it it still > retains if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver; I believe > it is a matter of adding an entry: > > af = /usr/adm/np.acct; > > to the printer's entry in NetInfo (and restarting). > > Also see "man pac" > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC w/ Windows for Black hardware Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:23:02 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 11 Message-ID: <77ih8o$tpr$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.120.3.207 X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Jan 13 16:23:02 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x10.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 163.120.3.207 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:22681 comp.sys.next.software:35177 I am still seeking a version of SoftPC for black hardware that will run windows. I teach students who use the stuff. Can anyone help? The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!205.197.251.110!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!lynx.unm.edu!ben06.unm.edu!haibach From: haibach@nospam.unm.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NT printing to NeXTcomputer problems... Date: 13 Jan 1999 17:24:23 GMT Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Lines: 18 Message-ID: <77iks7$sq4$1@lynx.unm.edu> References: <77i35u$pur@desire.lavielle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ben06.unm.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970527; AIX 4.3] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35178 Valentino, I've had no problems with the package using NT 4.0 SP3, with one exception: I can't print more than one page at a time! All the other machines (OS 4.2, MacOS 8.1) on the network work just fine. I haven't tried it with Win95. Fred Haibach +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Frederick G. Haibach | | Department of Chemistry | | University of New Mexico | | >>>>> haibach@nospam.unm.edu ++++++ http://www.unm.edu/~haibach <<<<< | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!agate!usenet From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: JetPilot & NeXT Printer -- need accounting! Date: 13 Jan 1999 22:09:54 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: <77j5ji$b8f$1@agate.berkeley.edu> References: Reply-To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: moica.berkeley.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35179 In article Timothy J Luoma writes: >JetPilot (which I did get working) shows just about every conceivable >piece of information you could want -- except the filename of the printed >file. > >Does anyone know how to keep track of this? In principle, you can only keep track of info that is passed from LPD, and that you can find by parsing the %% headers in the PS file itself. I do a bit of this (finding %%Title: and %%Creator: fields in the PS header) in my JetDirectDriver* which you can find on the standard FTP sites. You can't really find file names unless the Application inserts them in the %%Title. For use with JetPilot or other printers, you have to write a replacement "if" filter (which extracts and logs this info) which then spawns the original "if" filter as specified in NetInfo. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.pop.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC w/ Windows for Black hardware Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:00:14 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 28 Message-ID: <77j8hp$jnj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <77ih8o$tpr$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <77ilpd$m47$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.120.3.207 X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Jan 13 23:00:14 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x9.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 163.120.3.207 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:22682 comp.sys.next.software:35180 In article <77ilpd$m47$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>, neuss.nos-pam@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam wrote: > josborn@depauw.edu wrote: > >I am still seeking a version of SoftPC for black hardware that will run > >windows. I teach students who use the stuff. Can anyone help? > > wasn't a (time limited) demo version bundled with 3.something? > Depending on what exactly you need to do, it may suffice. I've > played around with it way back when, it was quite usable. > > Chris > -- > // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." > // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 > It was on 3.2 for Intel I have not been able to find a release for black with it. Jon The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news.ndh.net!newsfeed.tli.de!news-raspail.gip.net!news-dc.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep on Black HW Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:12:56 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 41 Message-ID: <77j99h$k9n$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <369C34A8.83879942@home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.120.3.207 X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Jan 13 23:12:56 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x9.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 163.120.3.207 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35181 In article <369C34A8.83879942@home.com>, Chevell wrote: > > I am in the midst of trying to install OPENSTEP 4.2 over NeXTSTEP 3.1 on > > a NeXTStation color turbo. I get the following error when planing the > upgrade with the upgrader.app on the OS4.2 CD: > objc: IXStoreFile: does not recognize selector-blockExists: > > I got the SW from an undisclosed source and have no reading materials. I > > have no idea if I'm going about this the right way. I don't care about > loosing the data on the drive if I have to, I just need to get this > thing up and running ASAP. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > --Chevell If you don't care how you get the thing booted. reboot the box after the system test hit "command + ~" This will put you into the monitor. If your cd is device 1 (second scsii device) type bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1a If your have drive ahead of the CD Drive then replace the 1's with 2's. etc. The CD should be scripted to replace the system on your HD. Warning! Open step takes almost 300 MB if you don't have a 400 MB harddrive I would reinstall 3.3. Jon > > The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Robert Andrew Bell" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software References: <77ih8o$tpr$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <77ilpd$m47$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <77j8hp$jnj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Subject: Re: SoftPC w/ Windows for Black hardware Lines: 40 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:56:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.113.18.170 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com 916275374 24.113.18.170 (Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:56:14 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:56:14 PDT Organization: @Home Network Canada Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:22683 comp.sys.next.software:35182 Just checked my 3.2 user cd for black hardware and a demo version of Softpc is included, look under NEXTSTEP_3.2/Nextcd/Packages I'm just in the process of installing it to see how well it works. Rob. rapier8@home.com josborn@depauw.edu wrote in message <77j8hp$jnj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... >In article <77ilpd$m47$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>, > neuss.nos-pam@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam wrote: >> josborn@depauw.edu wrote: >> >I am still seeking a version of SoftPC for black hardware that will run >> >windows. I teach students who use the stuff. Can anyone help? >> >> wasn't a (time limited) demo version bundled with 3.something? >> Depending on what exactly you need to do, it may suffice. I've >> played around with it way back when, it was quite usable. >> >> Chris >> -- >> // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." >> // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 >> > >It was on 3.2 for Intel I have not been able to find a release for black with >it. > >Jon > >The cure for ignorance is information. >The cure for dumbness is a voice. >The cure for stupidity is death. >Go and cure what ails you. > >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.shore.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!news7-gui.server.ntli.net!news-feed.ntli.net!not-for-mail From: "rav4" Newsgroups: comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software Subject: """"[FREE] Year 2000 Fix Software [FREE]""" Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:24:26 -0000 Organization: Virgin News Service Lines: 3 Message-ID: <77jh84$j5g$1@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.250.196.124 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.publish.cdrom.software:49929 comp.software.config-mgmt:14088 comp.software.testing:25718 comp.software.year-2000:127745 comp.software-eng:65324 comp.sys.next.software:35183 http://www.pc-guidance.co.uk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!cyclone.i1.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!news7-gui.server.ntli.net!news-feed.ntli.net!not-for-mail From: "rav4" Newsgroups: comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software Subject: """"[FREE] CPU Booster Software [FREE]""" Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:25:10 -0000 Organization: Virgin News Service Lines: 3 Message-ID: <77jh9f$j5n$1@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.250.196.124 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.publish.cdrom.software:49930 comp.software.config-mgmt:14089 comp.software.testing:25719 comp.software.year-2000:127746 comp.software-eng:65325 comp.sys.next.software:35184 http://www.pc-guidance.co.uk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <77jh84$j5g$1@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net> Control: cancel <77jh84$j5g$1@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net> Date: 14 Jan 1999 01:28:40 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: "rav4" Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!portc02.blue.aol.com!nyd.news.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!news.idt.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.shore.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!news7-gui.server.ntli.net!news-feed.ntli.net!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: """"[FREE] Year 2000 Fix Software [FREE]""" X-Original-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:24:26 -0000 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.250.196.124 X-Original-From: "rav4" X-CosmoTraq: H=Y1],..'P"HO7DYA/>N?CJ\R<<4"5TUBP*V#P$;(,D#?G#%4NX&[#QR X-Cancel-ID: WI.$+:R_9N,8B11LV>RE Newsgroups: comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <77jh9f$j5n$1@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net> Control: cancel <77jh9f$j5n$1@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net> Date: 14 Jan 1999 01:29:24 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: "rav4" Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!192.232.20.2!malgudi.oar.net!plonk.apk.net!news.apk.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!news7-gui.server.ntli.net!news-feed.ntli.net!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: """"[FREE] CPU Booster Software [FREE]""" X-Original-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:25:10 -0000 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.250.196.124 X-Original-From: "rav4" X-CosmoTraq: \;[AQ#->/P#XG6C8]+9O3LK,&.8E&&PTZU+&'S`Z$;E#;C#E8MX6A'12 X-Cancel-ID: *-T(L3-&ZF=BTUY925R2O5@-..%C=AJ7D@..B7F,PNV(/6@1DZ9*Q\(S X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 13 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5666876 My From: line has been fudged because many test newsgroup autoresponders respond to control messages. My apologies! Please see the X-Cancelled-By: line for my proper address. Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.hrz.uni-kassel.de!news.tu-darmstadt.de!not-for-mail From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC w/ Windows for Black hardware Date: 13 Jan 1999 17:39:57 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Lines: 12 Message-ID: <77ilpd$m47$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <77ih8o$tpr$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Reply-To: neuss.nos-pam@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam NNTP-Posting-Host: piripiri.pi.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:22685 comp.sys.next.software:35185 josborn@depauw.edu wrote: >I am still seeking a version of SoftPC for black hardware that will run >windows. I teach students who use the stuff. Can anyone help? wasn't a (time limited) demo version bundled with 3.something? Depending on what exactly you need to do, it may suffice. I've played around with it way back when, it was quite usable. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!howland.erols.net!master.news.rcn.net!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Java-capable browswer for NS? Date: 14 Jan 1999 11:51:02 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <77kln6$j86$1@winter.news.rcn.net> X-Trace: zXEdNCDGpoX/FmyHS2JTcXm9bg55LGlzusC5KGCFeNY= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jan 1999 11:51:02 GMT User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980226 (UNIX) (SunOS/5.5.1 (sun4m)) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35186 Hi all; Is there a WWW browser for NS3.x that will do Java? I have a color turbo slab, and need this capability... thanks e-glide at interport dot net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java-capable browswer for NS? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <77kln6$j86$1@winter.news.rcn.net> Lines: 10 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:52:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.39.29 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 916318326 24.4.39.29 (Thu, 14 Jan 1999 04:52:06 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 04:52:06 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35187 > Is there a WWW browser for NS3.x that will do Java? Alas, no. JP -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!global-one.it!news From: Stefano Lesandrini Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How properly configure two monitor with Pentium II/450 100MHz bus Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:42:38 +0100 Organization: Supertronic srl Lines: 49 Message-ID: <369E106E.AB967D53@supertronic.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: lexapc.supertronic.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------739C8032647B1A026E3898B4" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [it] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: it Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35188 Questo è un messaggio multi-parte scritto in formato MIME. --------------739C8032647B1A026E3898B4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, we are not able to configure properly a Pentium II 459MHz /100MHz Pc with two video cards. (But we were able to do this with old 66MHz motherboard) You can see here below what says the messages file: Apr 17 23:02:23 localhost mach: Display0: ATI Rage/Rage II/Rage Pro Found! Apr 17 23:02:23 localhost mach: Display0: Type GT. Gamma: YES. Memory: 8 MBytes. Apr 17 23:02:23 localhost mach: Display: Mode selected: 640 x 480 @ 60 Hz (RGB:256/8) Apr 17 23:02:23 localhost mach: Registering: Display0 Apr 17 23:02:23 localhost mach: : Error in setMemoryRangeList (Resource Shortage) Apr 17 23:02:23 localhost mach: : Configuration error. Aborting... So, I think I need to set manually some values in Configure.app. Could someonem help me? PS All the cards work well in single configuration. --------------739C8032647B1A026E3898B4 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="stl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Scheda di Stefano Lesandrini Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="stl.vcf" begin:vcard n:Valsecchi;Mauro tel;work:02,27208200 x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:mauro@supertronic.it fn:Mauro Valsecchi end:vcard --------------739C8032647B1A026E3898B4-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news-lond.gip.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!global-one.it!news From: Stefano Lesandrini Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How properly configure two monitor with Pentium II/450 100MHz bus Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:43:22 +0100 Organization: Supertronic srl Lines: 49 Message-ID: <369E109A.79D36D71@supertronic.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: lexapc.supertronic.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------642B9EB5A8AA5B819BE7C034" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [it] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: it Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35189 Questo è un messaggio multi-parte scritto in formato MIME. --------------642B9EB5A8AA5B819BE7C034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, we are not able to configure properly a Pentium II 459MHz /100MHz Pc with two video cards. (But we were able to do this with old 66MHz motherboard) You can see here below what says the messages file: Apr 17 23:02:23 localhost mach: Display0: ATI Rage/Rage II/Rage Pro Found! Apr 17 23:02:23 localhost mach: Display0: Type GT. Gamma: YES. Memory: 8 MBytes. Apr 17 23:02:23 localhost mach: Display: Mode selected: 640 x 480 @ 60 Hz (RGB:256/8) Apr 17 23:02:23 localhost mach: Registering: Display0 Apr 17 23:02:23 localhost mach: : Error in setMemoryRangeList (Resource Shortage) Apr 17 23:02:23 localhost mach: : Configuration error. Aborting... So, I think I need to set manually some values in Configure.app. Could someonem help me? PS All the cards work well in single configuration. --------------642B9EB5A8AA5B819BE7C034 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="stl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Scheda di Stefano Lesandrini Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="stl.vcf" begin:vcard n:Valsecchi;Mauro tel;work:02,27208200 x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:mauro@supertronic.it fn:Mauro Valsecchi end:vcard --------------642B9EB5A8AA5B819BE7C034-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!nntp.newengland.verio.net!news.pn.com!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!not-for-mail From: gfrancis@psych.purdue.edu (Greg Francis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Radical News beta replacement? Date: 14 Jan 1999 14:51:13 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <77l091$eg5$1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: wizard.psych.purdue.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: mozo.cc.purdue.edu 916325473 14853 128.210.151.197 (14 Jan 1999 14:51:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@mozo.cc.purdue.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jan 1999 14:51:13 GMT Cc: luomat@peak.org X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35190 Hmm, my RN expired earlier this month. I went to the web site and saw no announcement, but went ahead and downloaded the most recent version available. I'm now running 0.9.8 Beta(i) and it has no problems. I think they replaced the software, but forgot to update the web page. -Greg In Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > RN expired last night @ midnight. > > I haven't been able to find any sort of announcement about a replacement, > even @ their website. > > Anyone have any word? > > I'm assuming this was just an oversight of the Radical folks (note to > self: never have expiration date set to holiday :-) > > TjL, via PINE :-( > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.mccc.edu!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Radical News beta replacement? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77l091$eg5$1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Lines: 17 Message-ID: <2nrn2.471$TU6.1074380@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:15:10 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.93 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916341310 209.212.132.93 (Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:15:10 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:15:10 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35191 In <77l091$eg5$1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Greg Francis wrote: > Hmm, my RN expired earlier this month. I went to the web site and saw no > announcement, but went ahead and downloaded the most recent version > available. I'm now running 0.9.8 Beta(i) and it has no problems. > > I think they replaced the software, but forgot to update the web page. They did, but that didn't happen until a few days later than my post. TjL, back to using RN happily -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news.ndh.net!newsfeed.tli.de!news-hh.maz.net!desire.lavielle.com!news From: Valentino Kyriakides Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NT printing to NeXTcomputer problems... Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:19:47 +0100 Organization: Lavielle Lines: 35 Message-ID: <369E4352.30DEBA98@lavielle.com> References: <77i35u$pur@desire.lavielle.com> <77iks7$sq4$1@lynx.unm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.lavielle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) CC: haibach@unm.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35192 haibach@nospam.unm.edu wrote: > ... > > I've had no problems with the package using NT 4.0 SP3, with one > exception: > > I can't print more than one page at a time! > > All the other machines (OS 4.2, MacOS 8.1) on the network work just fine. > I haven't tried it with Win95. > I've been told that you must go to the generic printer setting configuration panel on the NT box and get to the PostScript settings. Inside those, you must make Page Independence = YES in order to print multiple pages. Try it out and tell me if it works for you (?). I for my part started to use Samba, since the stuff from the NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.zip distribution doesn't correctly work on my NT computer. Greetings Valentino -- Valentino Kyriakides Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co. Tel.: +49(0)40 / 65 80 8 - 997 Lotharstrasse 2b, D-22041 Hamburg, Germany Fax.: +49(0)40 / 65 808-202 http://www.lavielle.com/ mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server6.netnews.ja.net!news.york.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java-capable browswer for NS? Date: 14 Jan 1999 21:10:47 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Lines: 8 Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <77lmgn$fsi$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nicecuppa.ohm.york.ac.uk X-Trace: pump1.york.ac.uk 916348247 16274 144.32.136.151 (14 Jan 1999 21:10:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@york.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jan 1999 21:10:47 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35193 no.spam.please@no.spam.period writes: >> Is there a WWW browser for NS3.x that will do Java? > Alas, no. ..and we are still awaiting the promised java support in OmniWeb for OpenStep. :-( -bat. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!feeder.qis.net!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java-capable browswer for NS? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <77lmgn$fsi$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> Lines: 10 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:03:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.39.29 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 916355032 24.4.39.29 (Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:03:52 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:03:52 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35194 OmniWeb beta 9 should support JavaScript for the OPENSTEP/Mach version (not Java, just JavaScript). JP -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: daj@nwu.edu (David A.Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PCNFS Anyone? [I need help!] Date: 14 Jan 1999 22:50:08 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 29 Message-ID: <77lsb0$n7@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: reuben.feinberg.nwu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35195 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32662 I've got an old NeXTstation with an old Next printer. I also have an old PC (running DOS 3.3) that has sun PCNFS on it. (Bunch of old junk isn't it) I've got all the networking up and going. The problem is that I'm trying to configure the NeXT printer to do screen prints from the PC. I've got the printer mounted as lpt1: and I've got communications but I get postscript errors. Does anyone know of what needs to be done to fix this? I've tried configuring the pcnfs (pc side) as raw and postscript both with no luck. I think I need some sort of filter on the server side but I'm not sure. I know it can be done because many years ago I saw this exact combination (when both were new). The old PC is a propriatary system for data acquisition and the advantage of the old NeXT printers is that their still very fast little devils, thus why I'm trying to put the two together. Thank's in advance, -- David A. Johnson email: daj@nwu.edu Manager Computer Facility and Engineering Phone: (312) 503-0408 Feinberg Research Institute, Fax: (312) 503-0137 Northwestern University HAM call: N9HAM #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!outfeed1.news.cais.net!newsfeed.mathworks.com!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: dimbulb0@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: x2x and related programs.. Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:20:28 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 20 Message-ID: <77o7u0$s3h$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.164.33.131 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Jan 15 20:20:28 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.05 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 sparc; Nav) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x8.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 205.164.33.131 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35196 I run x2x at home, as I've got a lot of machines that I use, and I'd like to use them all at once. :) For those who may not know, x2x is a small X program that will allow you to control two X sessions with one keyboard. It's Digital freeware, so if you want to take a look at it, you can find it on their ftp site. It works out by creating a small, 1 pixel wide window at the edge of the screen, so when you drag the pointer off the edge, it "goes" to the other machine. It's a great way to fake multiple heads. I have a NeXTstation color (the 25Mhz version) and I would just *love* to be able to use this program with my black hardware. I've played with a few next X servers, and the only one that supports X11R6 on the same desktop as my NeXT apps does work, but it only allows me to control the X windows, and not the others. Any clues to help me out here? Thank you much. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.210.0.20!news.san.rr.com!not-for-mail From: "Steve Biskis" Subject: NS3.3 Y2K Preferences Patch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Message-ID: <01be40c9$677222d0$080216c0@newt> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Lines: 2241 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:55:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.22.126 X-Trace: news.san.rr.com 916433734 204.210.22.126 (Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:55:34 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:55:34 PDT Organization: TWC Road Runner, San Diego, CA Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32669 comp.sys.next.software:35197 comp.sys.next.misc:29212 comp.sys.next.programmer:30256 Hello All, There has been sufficient interest to the point where I'd better post this: Patch for Preferences under NeXTSTEP 3.3 I modified the Gnu sh-utils-1.16 date source to recognize Preference's "proprietary" set command format. date automatically differentiates the Prefs call from the standard set format so that all the other options should still work as advertised by --usage. Here's what to do: 1> Make sure that you are root . 2> cd to /usr/lib/Preferences . 3> PLEASE backup the date utility that is now there by say, mv date.Y1.9K or something . 4> Now copy the new date utility to /usr/lib/Preferences and watch Preferences forge ahead into the future. 5> Don't forget to replace the one in /bin as well ... I haven't messed around with any of the other problem utilities. With the possible exception of nroff/troff, I don't use any of them directly. I'm not at all sure how problematic they could prove to be in their current state. But what I'm most concerned about is what may still lay undiscovered due to lack of interest on Apple's part. I'm guessing that the only problems mentioned for NeXTSTEP are those that were found while scurrying to rescue OpenStep !!! Maybe there are no additional NS-specific problems to worry about but due to Apple's lack of support - who knows? If anybody out there discovers any new NS3.3 Y2K problems or solutions PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE respond in kind. Lets not get beat by this - we've still got time !!! da bisk P.S. 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The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets can be found on the Internet: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!any.msu.ru!news.orc.ru!not-for-mail From: mamax@mail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: test Date: 16 Jan 99 08:28:21 +-0300 Organization: Online Resource Center Lines: 3 Message-ID: <8d50.7725.294@trhwr> Reply-To: mamax@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 06.hq-3.dialup.orc.ru X-Trace: boss.nc.orc.ru 916464505 15137 212.48.131.22 (16 Jan 1999 05:28:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.orc.ru NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 1999 05:28:25 GMT content-length: 21 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35200 http://lba.da.ru/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.rediris.es!newsfeed.mad.ttd.net!newsfeed.bcn.ttd.net!lola!lola.ctv.es!not-for-mail From: "FREE SEX" Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,chile.mercado.software,chinese.comp.software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.software.crosspoint,de.comm.software.forte-agent,de.comm.software.mailreader.misc,de.comm.software.mailreader.pegasus,de.comm.sof Subject: DOWNLOAD THOUSANDS OF PICTURES WHIT AN ONLY CLICK!! Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:39:03 +0100 Organization: CTV/JET Lines: 9 Message-ID: <77kj44$obp$2@lola.ctv.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: infon566.jet.es X-Trace: lola.ctv.es 916312004 24953 195.55.158.54 (14 Jan 1999 11:06:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@lola.ctv.es NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jan 1999 11:06:44 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.software-eng:65496 comp.sys.next.software:35201 chinese.comp.software:2313 de.comm.software.crosspoint:27543 de.comm.software.forte-agent:7288 de.comm.software.mailreader.misc:709 de.comm.software.mailreader.pegasus:1064 DOWNLOAD THOUSANDS OF PICTURES WHIT AN ONLY CLICK!! FREE SOFTWARE!!!! DOWNLOAD IT NOW!! http://www.lanzadera.com/pix4u/ .. . #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!frankfurt.de.uu.net!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.enteract.com!not-for-mail From: rev.rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pentium II compatibility [OT] Date: 16 Jan 1999 18:05:06 GMT Organization: .crackheads.with.rather.low.paying.jobs. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <77qkci$n6l$1@eve.enteract.com> References: <76fvco$amj$1@news.indigo.ie> <1999Jan6.170909.24880@il.us.swissbank.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.229.133.74 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35202 [>] We've got thousands of machines running OS/M 4.2 on Pentium II's, up to [>] 450MHz. No problem, at least with the processor. [>] [>] -- [>] Michael Humphries-Dolnick [>] "If opinions are expressed in this communication, [>] those opinions may not represent those of [>] my employer." [>] do you happen to know the person listed in digital chicago that supposedly runs a Chicagoland NeXT users group? -- "I noticed a clump of wild flowers that we had trampled underfoot upon departing - yellow camomiles, relics of our yesterday." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.UVic.CA!not-for-mail From: cbose@uvic.ca (chris bose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: backup options Date: 16 Jan 1999 21:23:58 GMT Organization: University of Victoria Lines: 30 Message-ID: <77r01e$1ebo$1@uvaix7e1.comp.UVic.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: p17-7.dialup.uvic.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: uvaix7e1.comp.UVic.CA 916521838 47480 142.104.17.7 (16 Jan 1999 21:23:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@UVic.CA NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 1999 21:23:58 GMT X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35203 I have a general question about backups on a NeXT. The setting is a 33MHz cube running OS 4.2. I made a nice copy of my entire file system to an external tape drive with the utility 'dump'. I did a level 0 dump to save everything. Now, suppose I had a major drive failure. Could I use this tape copy to get the machine back up and running? Specifically, I would want to connect a new, unformatted and un- initialized drive to the SCSI bus, connect the tape drive to external SCSI port, and boot up in single user mode, so as to be able to run 'disk' or something like that on the drive, then copy the tape to the formatted drive using 'restore' on my level 0 copy. Does this make sense?? Since the tape drive sits as device /dev/rst0 on startup, will my machine be able to use it to boot from. Booting from external tape does not seem to be an option on the ROM monitor. So, I did what I have been putting off for so long --- backup. But now the big question is, could I restore in the event of a full disk failure?? I am reluctant to experiment with this! If anyone knows the exact sequence to do this, or knows that it cannot be done, I would appreciate the info. I do not have any other copy of my OS except that which resides on my drive. Hence, my wish to have a bootable backup. thanks in advance. chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!modem-51.xenon.dialup.pol.co.uk!user From: istephen@bournemouth.ac.uk (Dr I Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC sound driver Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:01:47 +0000 Organization: National Centre for Computer Animation Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <779809$2mn$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-51.xenon.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news8.svr.pol.co.uk 916527665 14966 62.136.26.179 (16 Jan 1999 23:01:05 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 1999 23:01:05 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35204 In article <779809$2mn$1@Nntp1.mcs.net>, "Tom Scheiber" wrote: > I have recently inherited a color station running NextStep 3.3 which has > SoftPC 3.0. It works fine except for the sound. According to the help > system, I should be able to make this work. It doesn't have a sound driver > installed, just the midi drivers. I got to a point where it asked for an > Insignia driver called sndblst.drv. > > Does anyone either have the appropriate version of this file or have some > knowledgable advice on how to resolve this problem? This is a no go. I there was any support for sound in that version it was limited to the standard PC speaker beep. There's no windows sound, and certainly no Soundblaster support for DOS. 4.1 for Intel has a Windows sound driver. It's unspported, but seems to work pretty well (even if I do say so myself). $an (Who's back on news again!) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.eurocyber.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How properly configure two monitor with Pentium II/450 100MHz bus Date: 15 Jan 1999 12:20:48 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 22 Message-ID: <77o7v0$3g5@slip.net> References: <369E109A.79D36D71@supertronic.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35205 In article <369E109A.79D36D71@supertronic.it>, Stefano Lesandrini wrote: > >we are not able to configure properly a Pentium II 459MHz /100MHz Pc >with two video cards. (But we were able to do this with old 66MHz >motherboard) Sounds like an IRQ conflict. Did you confirm that both video card do not have IRQ conflicts with other devices? As a long shot ... Examine your card for jumpers. If the card has them then check the user manual to confirm if jumpers must be set a certain way depending upon the IRQ setting. Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.89.75.15!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <6325915944426@digifix.com> Date: 17 Jan 1999 04:45:19 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 327 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <306916549240@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:117663 comp.sys.next.announce:4876 comp.sys.next.hardware:35832 comp.sys.next.software:35206 comp.sys.next.misc:29215 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32685 comp.sys.next.bugs:5012 comp.sys.next.programmer:30265 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!diablo.theplanet.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!news.kigam.re.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet From: "Seung-joo Lee" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How can I change the color of a cursor? Date: 17 Jan 1999 17:19:07 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Lines: 18 Message-ID: <77t62b$br8$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> Reply-To: feelfree@ppp.kornet21.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.43.87 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35207 Hi, How can I change the color of the cursor in Edit.app? Why I want to do this is I can't recognize with ease where the cursor is when doing Find & Replace Thanks. -- "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected piece of software on the planet." - Byte Seung-joo Lee feelfree@ppp.kornet21.net (NeXTmail Welcome!) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.maz.net!bignews.mediaways.net!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!netnews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.noc.cabal.int!erlenstar.ml.org!annihilator!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <8d50.7725.294@trhwr> ignore no reply Control: cancel <8d50.7725.294@trhwr> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:39:22 +0000 Sender: mamax@mail.com From: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk Organization: Annihilator v0.3 Approved: y X-Cancelled-By: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!any.msu.ru!news.orc.ru!not-for-mail X-Original-From: mamax@mail.com X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 06.hq-3.dialup.orc.ru X-Original-Subject: test X-Original-Date: 16 Jan 99 08:28:21 +-0300 X-Original-X-Trace: boss.nc.orc.ru 916464505 15137 212.48.131.22 (16 Jan 1999 05:28:25 GMT) X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 1999 05:28:25 GMT X-Cancel-ID: C6A1ZYVP)+#M.!,:[0!3 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BitchX75p1 (m68k & i486) FAT version released. Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:27:19 -0500 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <77tdsj$dgn$1@winter.news.rcn.net> X-Trace: puYHg42GKXyjdf+c+F6pNmXVS9VaXSDSj7XimniW42M= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Jan 1999 19:32:35 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35208 This is an OS 4.2 port. I decided to do a FAT binary port. I uploaded the file on PEAK ftp.peak.org/pub/openstep/submissions/BitchX75p1.3.NI.README ftp.peak.org/pub/openstep/submissions/BitchX75p1.3.NI.tar.gz I wasn't able to test the m68k version, thus, any feedback would be appreciated. Jay Lee echo4@NOSPAM.erols.com --remove NOSPAM NeXT, SUN, MIME Mail OK! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!news-muc.maz.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: lrvgbr@broadcast.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.software.year-2000 Subject: $300 of software for only $29.99 4778 Lines: 7 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:49:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.217.240.79 X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 916613343 142.217.240.79 (Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:49:03 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:49:03 EDT Organization: Bell Solutions Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35209 comp.software.year-2000:129453 to sell: stealth 3.2 mass mailer,send 250,000 e-mail per hour, dynamic submission 2000, submit your website over 630 search engines,post agent 3.5, post your message over 25000 newgroups.all of my software are fully registered.ask only $29.99 for all the package,can send cod.contact mathew@broadcast.net bpm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!cyclone.i1.net!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.enteract.com!not-for-mail From: rev.rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BitchX75p1 (m68k & i486) FAT version released. Date: 18 Jan 1999 01:07:31 GMT Organization: .crackheads.with.rather.low.paying.jobs. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <77u1gj$s91$2@eve.enteract.com> References: <77tdsj$dgn$1@winter.news.rcn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.229.133.74 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35210 It works great on my slab! thanks a million, now i have 4 clients running at once. -- "I noticed a clump of wild flowers that we had trampled underfoot upon departing - yellow camomiles, relics of our yesterday." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!skynet.be!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newsfeed.mad.ttd.net!newsfeed.bcn.ttd.net!news.mad.ttd.net!not-for-mail From: Capi@interferr.com (ThunderBoy.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for Cosmos 1.61 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:11:43 GMT Organization: * * * PEPSI MAX Co. * * * Lines: 11 Message-ID: <369eff37.2100316@news.interferr.com> Reply-To: capi@interferr.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.77.240.6 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Cache-Post-Path: cache!unknown@195-57-247-117.usr.ans.es X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.2 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35211 I´m trying to find Cosmos 1.61 or crack for this. Please send me some information. capi@interferr.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <369eff37.2100316@news.interferr.com> Control: cancel <369eff37.2100316@news.interferr.com> Date: 18 Jan 1999 05:22:02 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: Capi@interferr.com (ThunderBoy.) Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-nyc.telia.net!masternews.telia.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newsfeed.mad.ttd.net!newsfeed.bcn.ttd.net!news.mad.ttd.net!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: looking for Cosmos 1.61 X-Original-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:11:43 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.77.240.6 X-Original-From: Capi@interferr.com (ThunderBoy.) X-CosmoTraq: )5*C?!_FT[;6]I"$4[H`/G4AP?HFLLR2)T#X!D\O4N,W-V32%OARU780 X-Cancel-ID: 5O.FXF%T&P5X`;'/#2`($(8CUA*1I$LUJ#'A_SU0.$"V4P9"P=1[9=AA X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5724787 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-raspail.gip.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!sun4nl!212.206.254.3.MISMATCH!koza.nl.net!not-for-mail From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:32:39 GMT Organization: R&A Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: spike.rna.nl X-Trace: koza.nl.net 916641248 29026 195.109.36.82 (18 Jan 1999 06:34:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@nl.uu.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 1999 06:34:08 GMT X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82 [trh1]) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: localhost Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.programmer:30268 comp.sys.next.software:35212 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32689 I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. "Your io is pretty std" -- Larry Wall #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!diablo.theplanet.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!allstars.onestep.co.uk!not-for-mail From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Andrew Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:11:36 GMT Message-ID: <916654296.22458.0.nnrp-02.c30b1c0b@news.demon.co.uk> References: Reply-To: david@onestep.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: allstars.onestep.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: allstars.onestep.co.uk:195.11.28.11 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 916654296 nnrp-02:22458 NO-IDENT allstars.onestep.co.uk:195.11.28.11 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Lines: 10 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.programmer:30269 comp.sys.next.software:35213 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32690 In Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote: > I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better > newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? Umm, RadicalNews. Try http://www.radical.com/ -- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!feeder.qis.net!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Subject: Re: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: In-Reply-To: From: Jean-Paul Samson X-Image-URL: http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul/Images/jsamsonFace.jpg X-Face: 1*GzPq3qC*-k]Mo9Zy,N+dV)v(nK&1}T@#^>/w.2-V0j9H{-;bW\mWo{:wOb5=.)/r>VmWT|vWZ\M"N/l1fV;U0J3G]<:RzDpwT{=p:fzhOl/%ub6ma2xY;k\Zt6]&`I2[zCYE#61U3ip_Ac<}WUQ}b[z%h^-@?1c]G=(wS66N+yzq Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:38:16 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.65.144.87 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com 916655896 24.65.144.87 (Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:38:16 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:38:16 PDT Organization: @Home Network Canada Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35214 On 01/17/99, Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote: >I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better >newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? I use Wolfware's NewsFlash. It's not as sophisticated as RadicalNews in terms of features, but I find its user interface to be simple and easy to use. See: http://www.wolfware.com Jean-Paul -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -===- jeanpaul@cs.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail & MIME) -=============- http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul -=============- -===================================================================- "Microsoft is a fact of life. They're like the air we breathe. Perhaps a better analogy is bottled water, because you have to buy it." -- Steve Jobs, Apple Computer's Worldwide Developers Conference, May 16th, 1997 -===================================================================- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!fu-berlin.de!jussieu.fr!not-for-mail From: windey@amon.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Paul WINDEY) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: FIFO and UART and modem speed Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:05:26 GMT Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Lines: 27 Message-ID: <77v826$iev$1@vishnu.jussieu.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: amon.lpthe.jussieu.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:35847 comp.sys.next.software:35215 Hello, I have been trying to work at the top speed of a new modem without luck (except in Windows) under NS 3.3. At boot time the Help section of the Serial Port Device Driver (v 3.33) tells me that I should expect something like Registering: ISASerialPort0 ISASerialPort0: Base=0x03f8, IRQ=4, Type=16550AF/C/CF, FIFO=16 and that only under these circumstance the port will succeed working with a modem at speed higher than 9600. I only get Registering: ISASerialPort0 ISASerialPort0: Base=0x03f8, IRQ=4, FIFO=0 Still a detection of the modem under Windows tells me that it is detected to have UART NS 16550AN Does anybody knows a way around this problem and is it the real cause of my modem refusing to connect at speed above 9600? Thanks for any help since working with a modem is slow enough not to work beyond its capabilities. Paul #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: harald.haugli@it-integrator.no Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WebObjects CASE-tool Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:22:16 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 11 Message-ID: <77vci2$jb3$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.143.4.123 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Jan 18 13:22:16 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x6.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 194.143.4.123 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35216 Any developers in need of a CASE-tool for WebObjects (or other development platforms) using the NIAM/ORM method of information modelling? Take a look at The NIAM Suite: A demo-version is located at http://members.tripod.com/~haugli/download/niam.html For more info write: harald.haugli@it-integrator.no -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: backup options Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:05:40 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 31 Message-ID: <77vpl4$5tn$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <77r01e$1ebo$1@uvaix7e1.comp.UVic.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35217 cbose@uvic.ca (chris bose) wrote: [ ... ] > Now, suppose I had a major drive failure. Could I use this tape > copy to get the machine back up and running? Specifically, I would > want to connect a new, unformatted and un- initialized drive to > the SCSI bus, connect the tape drive to external SCSI port, > and boot up in single user mode, so as to be able to run 'disk' > or something like that on the drive, then copy the tape to the > formatted drive using 'restore' on my level 0 copy. Boot single-user from the NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP CD. Use /usr/etc/disk to format, partition, and create filesystem(s) on the replacement hard drive. Use 'mount -n' to mount the new disk somewhere without trying to update a read-only /etc/mnttab (ie, mount onto /tmp, or whatever). Cd to /tmp. Use 'restore -rf /dev/rst0' to restore the entire filesystem from tape to the new drive. >Does this make sense?? Since the tape drive sits as device /dev/rst0 >on startup, will my machine be able to use it to boot from. No. As a general rule of thumb, the operating system has to boot from a block-device that supports random-access. Ethernet, floppy disk, optical, CD-ROM, and various hard disks do; tape does not. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC w/ Windows for Black hardware Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:36:28 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 53 Message-ID: <77vuvb$41t$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <77ih8o$tpr$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <77ilpd$m47$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <77j8hp$jnj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.120.3.207 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Jan 18 18:36:28 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x9.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 163.120.3.207 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:22715 comp.sys.next.software:35218 In article , "Robert Andrew Bell" wrote: > Just checked my 3.2 user cd for black hardware and a demo version of Softpc > is included, look under NEXTSTEP_3.2/Nextcd/Packages I'm just in the > process of installing it to see how well it works. > > Rob. > rapier8@home.com > > josborn@depauw.edu wrote in message <77j8hp$jnj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... > >In article <77ilpd$m47$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>, > > neuss.nos-pam@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam wrote: > >> josborn@depauw.edu wrote: > >> >I am still seeking a version of SoftPC for black hardware that will run > >> >windows. I teach students who use the stuff. Can anyone help? > >> > >> wasn't a (time limited) demo version bundled with 3.something? > >> Depending on what exactly you need to do, it may suffice. I've > >> played around with it way back when, it was quite usable. > >> > >> Chris > >> -- > >> // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." > >> // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 > >> > > > >It was on 3.2 for Intel I have not been able to find a release for black > with > >it. > > > >Jon > > > >The cure for ignorance is information. > >The cure for dumbness is a voice. > >The cure for stupidity is death. > >Go and cure what ails you. > > > >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- > >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own > > Where does one get e 3.2 for Mach Release? 3.3 is available, I have 3.0 and 4.1. Did windows work on the 3.2 release demo? The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.148.32.248!news!not-for-mail From: PTEVANS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXT COMPUTER Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:30:55 +0000 Organization: Mac Pro Systems Lines: 5 Message-ID: <36A3297D.F189A7F8@mac-pro.com> Reply-To: ptevans@mac-pro.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 205-219-66-249.bayarea.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.bayarea.net 916691484 17130 205.219.66.249 (18 Jan 1999 20:31:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@bayarea.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 1999 20:31:24 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35219 NEED SOME INFORAMTION ON A NEXT COMPUTER I JUST PURCHASED PT 1800 525-3888 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!agate!usenet From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: backup options Date: 18 Jan 1999 21:11:39 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 28 Message-ID: <78082b$hi5$7@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <77r01e$1ebo$1@uvaix7e1.comp.UVic.CA> <77vpl4$5tn$1@news.spacelab.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35220 "Charles W. Swiger" wrote: >Boot single-user from the NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP CD. >Use /usr/etc/disk to format, partition, and create filesystem(s) on >the replacement hard drive. Use 'mount -n' to mount the new disk >somewhere without trying to update a read-only /etc/mnttab (ie, mount >onto /tmp, or whatever). Cd to /tmp. Use 'restore -rf /dev/rst0' to >restore the entire filesystem from tape to the new drive. > Hi, During the single user boot, the SCSITape driver won't be loaded so you have to do it by hand, like: driverLoader d=SCSITape and answer "yes" to questions. After this, you can load files from a backup tape. I have done this once :( Just a trivial addition to Chuck's nice answer to the original question. BTW, what kind of modern machine supports booting from a tape? I know older (fossile level??) SGIs supported it but no longer. Just curious. Regards, -- Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!netnews.com!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!wesley.videotron.net!wagner.videotron.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Andre Lalonde" From: "Andre Lalonde" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: Subject: Re: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Lines: 21 Organization: Scribex Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:02:02 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.19.108.240 X-Complaints-To: abuse@videotron.net X-Trace: wagner.videotron.net 916693399 204.19.108.240 (Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:03:19 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:03:19 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.programmer:30270 comp.sys.next.software:35221 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32694 Take a look at NewsFlash (v.2.275). http://www.scribex.com/English/index.html (Requires NEXTSTEP 3.2 or higher or OPENSTEP 4.x for Mach.) -Andre =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D wrote in message news:F5q3uF.E01@RnA.nl... >I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better=20 >newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? > >--=20 >Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) >"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" >Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. > >"Your io is pretty std" -- Larry Wall #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.pop.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!agate!usenet From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cancel Control: cancel <7807l0$hi5$5@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 18 Jan 1999 21:07:44 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 1 Message-ID: <7807r0$hi5$6@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5733570 cancel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printer Drivers Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:41:58 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 13 Message-ID: <77vv9k$47u$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.120.3.207 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Jan 18 18:41:58 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x9.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 163.120.3.207 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35222 The University has a HP Designjet 2500cp I would like to print to. Anybody have an idea about drivers for such a beast?? Jon The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: daj@nwu.edu (David A.Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] Configuring a NeXTprinter for a Samba service Date: 18 Jan 1999 23:19:26 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 24 Message-ID: <780fhu$m7v@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: reuben.feinberg.nwu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32696 comp.sys.next.software:35223 The old NeXTPrinters (video style printers) are so fast I'd like to continue to use them. I'm trying to configure a NeXTprinter (black hardware) to work with Samba. Does anyone know how I should configure the service in Samba and how (if necessary) I need to modify the printcap or Netinfo entries? BTW: I'm also trying to configure a NeXTprinter as client printer using PCNFS (on the client) if anyone happens to know the secret to this I'd appreciate it also. (The crazy thing is years ago both of these worked) Thank's in advance, -- David A. Johnson email: daj@nwu.edu Manager Computer Facility and Engineering Phone: (312) 503-0408 Feinberg Research Institute, Fax: (312) 503-0137 Northwestern University HAM call: N9HAM #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news-in-east1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!interpath.net!phenix From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Newsreader for OPENSTEP? Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:16:42 -0500 Organization: phenix@interpath.com Lines: 11 Message-ID: <1dlukkz.egsx6n17w623bN@roxboro0-027.dyn.interpath.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: roxboro0-027.dyn.interpath.net X-Face: $!7l?58&Lro>GQtr;A/P^'38=7{P[jPy/?JF*m`Z2&~@3:P3L81Sa7RQ=Y~o| ?'D1cB]L9V=\OS(\8S,5 Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-FAQs-Read: perl, pascal.mac User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.programmer:30271 comp.sys.next.software:35224 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32698 wrote: > I am currently using Alexandra, but did there ever surface a better > newsreader for OPENSTEP? Something with a decent elegant interface? Go to which has links to both mac and openstep newsreaders (including one to a latter version of Alexandra than the one you are using). -- John Moreno #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Robert Andrew Bell" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software References: <77ih8o$tpr$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <77ilpd$m47$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <77j8hp$jnj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <77vuvb$41t$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Subject: Re: SoftPC w/ Windows for Black hardware Lines: 66 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Message-ID: <3USo2.1136$d31.317@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:22:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.113.18.170 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com 916716159 24.113.18.170 (Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:22:39 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:22:39 PDT Organization: @Home Network Canada Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:22719 comp.sys.next.software:35225 I've seen a few 3.2 user and developer for sale here recently,try a search at Dejanews.I haven't tried windows yet as I don't have enough hd space but dos runs fine and I don't see any reason why windows wouldn't run. Rob. wrote in message news:77vuvb$41t$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com... >In article , > "Robert Andrew Bell" wrote: >> Just checked my 3.2 user cd for black hardware and a demo version of Softpc >> is included, look under NEXTSTEP_3.2/Nextcd/Packages I'm just in the >> process of installing it to see how well it works. >> >> Rob. >> rapier8@home.com >> >> josborn@depauw.edu wrote in message <77j8hp$jnj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... >> >In article <77ilpd$m47$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>, >> > neuss.nos-pam@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam wrote: >> >> josborn@depauw.edu wrote: >> >> >I am still seeking a version of SoftPC for black hardware that will run >> >> >windows. I teach students who use the stuff. Can anyone help? >> >> >> >> wasn't a (time limited) demo version bundled with 3.something? >> >> Depending on what exactly you need to do, it may suffice. I've >> >> played around with it way back when, it was quite usable. >> >> >> >> Chris >> >> -- >> >> // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." >> >> // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 >> >> >> > >> >It was on 3.2 for Intel I have not been able to find a release for black >> with >> >it. >> > >> >Jon >> > >> >The cure for ignorance is information. >> >The cure for dumbness is a voice. >> >The cure for stupidity is death. >> >Go and cure what ails you. >> > >> >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- >> >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own >> >> > >Where does one get e 3.2 for Mach Release? 3.3 is available, I have 3.0 and >4.1. Did windows work on the 3.2 release demo? > > >The cure for ignorance is information. >The cure for dumbness is a voice. >The cure for stupidity is death. >Go and cure what ails you. > >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!netnews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: html editors? Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 04:08:41 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 14 Message-ID: <7810g3$1en$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.120.3.207 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Jan 19 04:08:41 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x3.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 163.120.3.207 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35226 What html editors do you guys use? WebObjects doesn't seem to run for me. Jon The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gip.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: html editors? Date: 19 Jan 1999 05:10:04 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 22 Message-ID: <78143c$mqq$1@news.digifix.com> References: <7810g3$1en$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: <7810g3$1en$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35227 On 01/18/99, josborn@depauw.edu wrote: >What html editors do you guys use? WebObjects doesn't seem to run for me. > WebObjects isn't really an HTML editor. You might want to try http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Technical/HTMLEdit/ It has some features and full code, plus articles describing its building. -- Scott Anguish Stepwise - OpenStep/Rhapsody Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!feeder.qis.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <36a38516.0@news.ivic.net> Control: cancel <36a38516.0@news.ivic.net> Date: 19 Jan 1999 08:10:18 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: DLR Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.51.248.10!news.ivic.net!207.51.248.144 X-Original-Subject: - 100% FREE Y2K Software Download X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:03:31 PST X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.51.248.144 X-Original-From: DLR X-Original-X-Trace: 18 Jan 1999 19:01:42 GMT, 207.51.248.144 X-CosmoTraq: G^(9:)VJMTCPT^M=22G*N8KJ:JXL:PC NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust42.tnt1.lax3.da.uu.net X-Auth: 405DD3DD538B941B14D08414 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35228 HOLY SHIT BATMAN!!!!!!!! http://www.pamporn.com - ANNOUNCING YET ANOTHER- PAMELA ANDERSON HARDCORE SEX TAPE!!!!!!!! -Pamela Anderson & Bret Michaels Sex Tape- UN-FUCKING BELIEVABLE Could it be true? 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So get your credit card ready and order today. http://www.pamporn.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <781lci$r4p$4183@news-1.news.gte.net> Control: cancel <781lci$r4p$4183@news-1.news.gte.net> Date: 19 Jan 1999 10:10:05 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: ysdfyyyjs@yysjdfyjysd.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!worldfeed.news.gte.net!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: -Pamela Lee & Bret Michaels Hardcore Tape X-Original-Date: 19 Jan 1999 10:05:06 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust42.tnt1.lax3.da.uu.net X-Original-From: ysdfyyyjs@yysjdfyjysd.com X-CosmoTraq: NV(1T+N<_:Y<:"[JOJU\#]7(]-W_Y+6\6R^)#D5\.[L197K_>:!JU2T# X-Cancel-ID: >O#(!("3/2=U):Z0S-_)#:H@^#2PPVU7I57>P/P/^3W:4"ADX/.=A]6% X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5737196 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!208.128.117.2!newsrelay.courtave.net!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java-capable browswer for NS? Date: 19 Jan 1999 14:04:48 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 17 Message-ID: <7823e0$igu$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <77lmgn$fsi$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: sting.unl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35229 In article <77lmgn$fsi$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) writes: > no.spam.please@no.spam.period writes: > >> Is there a WWW browser for NS3.x that will do Java? > > Alas, no. > > ..and we are still awaiting the promised java support in OmniWeb for > OpenStep. :-( java support will NOT be in the OpenStep version, just the MacOS X (server) version that has java builtin. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!bignews.mediaways.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!cocoa.brown.edu!news From: "Nicodemus Taranovsky" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WebObjects 4.0 vs. ColdFusion 4.0 Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:18:39 -0500 Organization: Brown University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <781br7$agt@cocoa.brown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.181.166.186 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35230 Greetings, We are looking for a rapid application development tool and we are currently examining both ColdFusion and WebObjects (both 4.0). I would very much appreciate an analysis of the differences between the two systems. What kind of organization is more likely to use CF over WO or vice versa. Which product is an ISP more likely to offer as a service? What are the skill levels that are associated with each? If anyone has used both products – what are your opinions about their strengths and weaknesses? Many thanks for all your help! Nico Taranovsky Web Group Brown University #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.indiana.edu!not-for-mail From: dapena@valeri.hper.indiana.edu (Jesus Dapena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: need help with cc error message Date: 19 Jan 1999 17:38:24 GMT Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Lines: 24 Message-ID: <782fug$tp3$1@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: valeri.hper.indiana.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35231 I am running a FORTRAN program through f2c to produce a c program. Then, I am running the c program through the standard c compiler that came with my current OpenStep 4.1 operating system. This is giving me the following error message: cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1obj got fatal signal 11 Can anyone tell me what this means? This is a program that ran perfectly with the c compiler that came with NextStep 3.3. And the many other FORTRAN programs that I have all run OK with 4.1's c compiler. It is just this program that does not work after the upgrade to 4.1 and its c compiler. Any ideas?? Help!! Jesus Dapena -- Jesus Dapena Department of Kinesiology 1-812-855-8407 Indiana University dapena@valeri.hper.indiana.edu Bloomington, IN 47405, USA http://www.indiana.edu/~sportbm/home.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!newspeer1.nac.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!solomon.io.com!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: humphrmi@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pentium II compatibility [OT] Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:09:14 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 24 Message-ID: <782op2$hs0$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <76fvco$amj$1@news.indigo.ie> <1999Jan6.170909.24880@il.us.swissbank.com> <77qkci$n6l$1@eve.enteract.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.180.1.101 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Jan 19 20:09:14 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01GoldC-GDIP10 (WinNT; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x10.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 146.180.1.101 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35232 In article <77qkci$n6l$1@eve.enteract.com>, rev.rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com wrote: > [>] We've got thousands of machines running OS/M 4.2 on Pentium II's, up to > > [>] 450MHz. No problem, at least with the processor. > [>] > [>] -- > [>] Michael Humphries-Dolnick > [>] "If opinions are expressed in this communication, > [>] those opinions may not represent those of > [>] my employer." > [>] > > do you happen to know the person listed in digital chicago that supposedly > runs a Chicagoland NeXT users group? Sorry, no. Our bank has tons of internal resources for NEXT (not to mention our contract with Apple), so we don't use SIGs much, at least not that I've heard of. -Mike -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!agate!usenet From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: need help with cc error message Date: 19 Jan 1999 22:29:33 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 24 Message-ID: <78310d$kqf$1@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <782fug$tp3$1@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35233 dapena@valeri.hper.indiana.edu (Jesus Dapena) wrote: > I am running a FORTRAN program through f2c to produce a c program. > Then, I am running the c program through the standard c compiler > that came with my current OpenStep 4.1 operating system. This is > giving me the following error message: > >cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1obj got fatal signal 11 > > Can anyone tell me what this means? > This is the infamous signal 11 error by gcc. There is a good description for Linux but can be directly adpoted to OPENSTEP/NeXTSTEP. Try the following URL: http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ You didn't mention what kind of hardware you are running. Maybe you thought the problem is irrelevant to what kind of hardware you are using but in this particular case it is. Good luck on fixing your problem! -- Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!netnews.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!crcnews.unl.edu!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: "Rex Dieter" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: need help with cc error message Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:48:55 -0600 Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 22 Message-ID: <7831s5$5ag$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <782fug$tp3$1@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mathlab03.unl.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35234 Jesus Dapena wrote in message <782fug$tp3$1@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu>... > I am running a FORTRAN program through f2c to produce a c >program. Then, I am running the c program through the standard c >compiler... This is giving me the following error message: >cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1obj got fatal signal 11 > Can anyone tell me what this means? The compiler crashed. > Any ideas?? Help!! Try, cc -O0 -c problemFile.c cc -static -c problemFile.c cc -O0 -static -c problemFile.c -- Rex #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!netnews.com!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!dca1-feed4.news.digex.net!digex!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: backup options Date: 20 Jan 1999 07:58:07 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Lines: 46 Message-ID: <784jsv$7jt@papoose.quick.com> References: <77r01e$1ebo$1@uvaix7e1.comp.UVic.CA> <77vpl4$5tn$1@news.spacelab.net> <78082b$hi5$7@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35235 In article <78082b$hi5$7@agate.berkeley.edu>, wrote: >BTW, what kind of modern machine supports booting from a tape? I know older >(fossile level??) SGIs supported it but no longer. Just curious. Though a number of large unix machines can still boot from tape devices (typically only QIC or 9 track devices), the only current OS that I know can do this easily is AIX. The caveat is that only certain tape drives which contain special firmware releases are supported. In the olden days, the stock unix 9 track driver used a 512 byte block device and series of skip commands to emulate a true file system under the hood. The huge amount of space wasted for interblock gaps allowed this drive to rewrite blocks in place. This was useful but frustrating. I recall a couple of times waiting several minutes as the system had to seek back and forth several times to update an inode timestamp. Keep several copies of the boot tape on hand - You *do not* want to fsck! Most modern drive families explicitly mark the last written position and disallow seeking or reading beyond the logical end of tape. Some drives which are capable of reading beyond the logical end of tape are use with drivers which disallow this behavior, so the days of treating tape as a true random access r/w medium are past. The AIX architecture treats the tape as read only media, and places a boot track at the beginning of the tape. After reading the boot track, the kernel initializes a small ram disk and loads a set of utilities supporting basic maintenance and initialization tasks. This is analogous to the mini-root used by Sun for so long. When you think about it, the difference between booting from the network and booting from tape are very similar. Boot a kernel capable of initializing the hardware and creating base file-systems, then use either tftp or a tar like tool to install the file-system contents. I wish more OSes had this capability. With NS, however, I have never missed it. Being able to easily boot from the CD and mount enough to restore from tape (which I've only needed once) was pretty painless. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | If only the HMO would cover my allergy to gravity. ) | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!nntp2.cerf.net!nntp3.cerf.net!news.san.rr.com!not-for-mail From: "Steve Biskis" Subject: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Lines: 569 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:54:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.22.126 X-Trace: news.san.rr.com 916840486 204.210.22.126 (Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:54:46 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:54:46 PDT Organization: TWC Road Runner, San Diego, CA Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32704 comp.sys.next.programmer:30275 comp.sys.next.misc:29220 comp.sys.next.software:35236 Interesting, My last post seems to have been retroactively deleted from all the newsboards so here it is again with some adjustments: I assume the moderator doesn't want binaries attached. --- Hello All, There has been sufficient interest to the point where I'd better post this: Patch for Preferences under NeXTSTEP 3.3 I modified the Gnu sh-utils-1.16 date source to recognize Preference's "proprietary" set command format. This modified date.c automatically differentiates the Prefs call from the standard set format so that all the other options should still work as advertised by --usage. Here's what to do: 1> ftp to ftp.gnu.org and download the sh-utils-1.16 distribution. 2> backup the stock version of date.c that came with it and copy my modified version in its place. 3> configure & compile date 4> Now, to install, 1st make sure that you are root . 5> cd to /usr/lib/Preferences . 6> PLEASE backup the date utility that is now there by say, mv date.Y1.9K or something . 7> Now copy the new date utility to /usr/lib/Preferences and watch Preferences forge ahead into the future. 8> Don't forget to replace the one in /bin as well ... For those of you who don't/can't download or compile, I can send you a dual-FAT binary: m68k/i386 of date. Sorry, I don't run Sun or HP ... (yet) - Perhaps someone more connected than myself can build a quad FAT version and make it available along with the simple install directions. As time goes by more folks are bound to want it. I haven't messed around with any of the other problem utilities. With the possible exception of nroff/troff, I don't use any of them directly. I'm not at all sure how problematic they could prove to be in their current state. But what I'm most concerned about is what may still lay undiscovered due to lack of interest on Apple's part. I'm guessing that the only problems mentioned for NeXTSTEP are those that were found while scurrying to rescue OpenStep !!! Maybe there are no additional NS-specific problems to worry about but due to Apple's lack of support - who knows? If anybody out there discovers any new NS3.3 Y2K problems or solutions PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE respond in kind. Lets not get beat by this - we've still got time !!! da bisk P.S. In the spirit of CopyLeft, here's the source: ********** BEGIN: date.c ********** /* date - print or set the system date and time Copyright (C) 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. David MacKenzie 11/26/98 NeXT Y2K Patched Version: Steve Biskis Look for the AREAS marked BISK for what has been alterred ... */ #include #include #include #include #include "system.h" #include "getline.h" #include "error.h" #include "getdate.h" #ifndef STDC_HEADERS size_t strftime (); time_t time (); #endif int putenv (); int stime (); char *xrealloc (); time_t posixtime (); static void show_date __P ((const char *format, time_t when)); static void usage __P ((int status)); /* The name this program was run with, for error messages. */ char *program_name; /* If nonzero, display usage information and exit. */ static int show_help; /* If nonzero, print the version on standard output and exit. */ static int show_version; /* If non-zero, display time in RFC-822 format for mail or news. */ static int rfc_format = 0; /* If nonzero, print or set Coordinated Universal Time. */ static int universal_time = 0; static struct option const long_options[] = { {"date", required_argument, NULL, 'd'}, {"file", required_argument, NULL, 'f'}, {"help", no_argument, &show_help, 1}, {"reference", required_argument, NULL, 'r'}, {"rfc-822", no_argument, NULL, 'R'}, {"set", required_argument, NULL, 's'}, {"uct", no_argument, NULL, 'u'}, {"utc", no_argument, NULL, 'u'}, {"universal", no_argument, NULL, 'u'}, {"version", no_argument, &show_version, 1}, {NULL, 0, NULL, 0} }; // BISK: new function ... static time_t parseDateStr( const char *datestr ) { int n; struct timeval tv; struct tm timeObj, *tmp; char *bp, buf[4], dateStr[16]; if ( !datestr ) return -1; if ( (bp=strchr(datestr,'.')) ) { // NeXT Preferences Format ??? if ( strlen(bp)!=3 || strlen(datestr)<13 ) return -1; sprintf(dateStr,"%.10s%.2s",bp-10,bp+1); } else sprintf(dateStr,"%.12s",datestr); n=strlen(dateStr); if ( n!=4 && n!=6 && n!=10 && n!=12 ) return -1; bp=dateStr; bzero(&timeObj,sizeof(timeObj)); if ( n==10 || n==12 ) { // setting date AND time ... sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_year=atoi(buf); if ( timeObj.tm_year<50 ) timeObj.tm_year+=100; bp+=2; sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_mon=atoi(buf)-1; bp+=2; sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_mday=atoi(buf); bp+=2; } else { gettimeofday(&tv,NULL); tmp=localtime(&tv.tv_sec); timeObj.tm_year=tmp->tm_year; timeObj.tm_mon=tmp->tm_mon; timeObj.tm_mday=tmp->tm_mday; } sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_hour=atoi(buf); bp+=2; sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_min=atoi(buf); bp+=2; if ( *bp ) { sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_sec=atoi(buf); } return mktime(&timeObj); } /* Parse each line in INPUT_FILENAME as with --date and display the each resulting time and date. If the file cannot be opened, tell why then exit. Issue a diagnostic for any lines that cannot be parsed. If any line cannot be parsed, return nonzero; otherwise return zero. */ static int batch_convert (const char *input_filename, const char *format) { int status; FILE *in_stream; char *line; int line_length; size_t buflen; time_t when; if (strcmp (input_filename, "-") == 0) { input_filename = _("standard input"); in_stream = stdin; } else { in_stream = fopen (input_filename, "r"); if (in_stream == NULL) { error (1, errno, "`%s'", input_filename); } } line = NULL; buflen = 0; status = 0; while (1) { line_length = getline (&line, &buflen, in_stream); if (line_length < 0) { /* FIXME: detect/handle error here. */ break; } when = get_date (line, NULL); if (when == -1) { if (line[line_length - 1] == '\n') line[line_length - 1] = '\0'; error (0, 0, _("invalid date ` %s'"), line); status = 1; } else { show_date (format, when); } } if (fclose (in_stream) == EOF) error (2, errno, input_filename); if (line != NULL) free (line); return status; } int main ( int argc, char **argv ) { int optc; const char *datestr=NULL; const char *set_datestr=NULL; time_t when; int set_date = 0; char *format; char *batch_file=NULL; char *reference=NULL; struct stat refstats; int n_args; int status; int option_specified_date; program_name=argv[0]; setlocale(LC_ALL, ""); bindtextdomain(PACKAGE,LOCALEDIR); textdomain(PACKAGE); while ( (optc=getopt_long(argc,argv,"d:f:r:Rs:u",long_options, NULL) )!=EOF ) switch( optc ) { case 0: break; case 'd': datestr=optarg; break; case 'f': batch_file=optarg; break; case 'r': reference=optarg; break; case 'R': rfc_format=1; break; case 's': set_datestr=optarg; set_date=1; break; case 'u': universal_time=1; if ( putenv("TZ=UTC0")!=0 ) error (1,0,"memory exhausted"); #if LOCALTIME_CACHE tzset(); #endif break; default: usage(1); } if ( show_version ) { printf("date (%s) %s\n",GNU_PACKAGE,VERSION); exit(0); } if ( show_help ) usage(0); n_args=argc-optind; option_specified_date = ((datestr?1:0)+(batch_file?1:0)+(reference?1:0)); if ( option_specified_date>1 ) { error(0,0, _("the options to specify dates for printing are mutually exclusive") ); usage (1); } if ( set_date && option_specified_date ) { error(0,0, _("the options to print and set the time may not be used together") ); usage (1); } if ( n_args>1 ) { error(0,0,_("too many non-option arguments")); usage (1); } if ( (set_date || option_specified_date) && n_args==1 && argv[optind][0]!='+' ) { error(0,0,_("\ the argument `%s' lacks a leading `+';\n\ when using an option to specify date(s), any\n\ non-option argument must be a format string beginning with `+'"), argv[optind]); usage (1); } if ( set_date ) datestr=set_datestr; if ( batch_file!=NULL ) status = batch_convert(batch_file,(n_args==1?argv[optind]+1:NULL)); else { status=0; if ( !option_specified_date && !set_date ) { if ( n_args==1 && argv[optind][0]!='+' ) { /* Prepare to set system clock to the specified date/time given in the POSIX-format. */ set_date=1; datestr=argv[optind]; // BISK: changed ... //when = posixtime (datestr); when=parseDateStr(datestr); format=NULL; } else { /* Prepare to print the current date/time. */ datestr=_("undefined"); time(&when); format=(n_args==1?argv[optind]+1:NULL); } } else /* (option_specified_date || set_date) */ { if ( reference!=NULL ) { if ( stat(reference,&refstats) ) error(1,errno,"%s",reference); when = refstats.st_mtime; } else when=get_date (datestr,NULL); format=(n_args==1?argv[optind]+1:NULL); } if ( when==-1 ) error (1,0,_("invalid date `%s'"),datestr); if ( set_date ) { /* Set the system clock to the specified date, then regardless of the success of that operation, format and print that date. */ if ( stime(&when)==-1 ) error(0,errno,_("cannot set date")); } show_date (format, when); } if ( fclose(stdout)==EOF ) error(2,errno,_("write error")); exit (status); } /* Display the date and/or time in WHEN according to the format specified in FORMAT, followed by a newline. If FORMAT is NULL, use the standard output format (ctime style but with a timezone inserted). */ static void show_date (const char *format, time_t when) { struct tm *tm; char *out = NULL; size_t out_length = 0; tm = localtime (&when); if (format == NULL) { /* Print the date in the default format. Vanilla ANSI C strftime doesn't support %e, but POSIX requires it. If you don't use a GNU strftime, make sure yours supports %e. If you are not using GNU strftime, you want to change %z in the RFC format to %Z; this gives, however, an invalid RFC time format outside the continental United States and GMT. */ format = (rfc_format ? (universal_time ? "%a, %_d %b %Y %H:%M:%S GMT" : "%a, %_d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %z") : "%a %b %e %H:%M:%S %Z %Y"); } else if (*format == '\0') { printf ("\n"); return; } do { out_length += 200; out = (char *) xrealloc (out, out_length); } while (strftime (out, out_length, format, tm) == 0); printf ("%s\n", out); free (out); } static void usage (int status) { if (status != 0) fprintf (stderr, _("Try `%s --help' for more information.\n"), program_name); else { printf (_("\ Usage: %s [OPTION]... [+FORMAT]\n\ or: %s [OPTION] [MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]]\n\ "), program_name, program_name); printf (_("\ Display the current time in the given FORMAT, or set the system date.\n\ \n\ -d, --date=STRING display time described by STRING, not `now'\n\ -f, --file=DATEFILE like --date once for each line of DATEFILE\n\ -r, --reference=FILE display the last modification time of FILE\n\ -R, --rfc-822 output RFC-822 compliant date string\n\ -s, --set=STRING set time described by STRING\n\ -u, --utc, --universal print or set Coordinated Universal Time\n\ --help display this help and exit\n\ --version output version information and exit\n\ ")); printf (_("\ \n\ FORMAT controls the output. The only valid option for the second form\n\ specifies Coordinated Universal Time. Interpreted sequences are:\n\ \n\ %%%% a literal %%\n\ %%a locale's abbreviated weekday name (Sun..Sat)\n\ %%A locale's full weekday name, variable length (Sunday..Saturday)\n\ %%b locale's abbreviated month name (Jan..Dec)\n\ %%B locale's full month name, variable length (January..December)\n\ %%c locale's date and time (Sat Nov 04 12:02:33 EST 1989)\n\ %%d day of month (01..31)\n\ %%D date (mm/dd/yy)\n\ %%e day of month, blank padded ( 1..31)\n\ %%h same as %%b\n\ %%H hour (00..23)\n\ %%I hour (01..12)\n\ %%j day of year (001..366)\n\ %%k hour ( 0..23)\n\ %%l hour ( 1..12)\n\ %%m month (01..12)\n\ %%M minute (00..59)\n\ %%n a newline\n\ %%p locale's AM or PM\n\ %%r time, 12-hour (hh:mm:ss [AP]M)\n\ %%s seconds since 00:00:00, Jan 1, 1970 (a GNU extension)\n\ %%S second (00..61)\n\ %%t a horizontal tab\n\ %%T time, 24-hour (hh:mm:ss)\n\ %%U week number of year with Sunday as first day of week (00..53)\n\ %%V week number of year with Monday as first day of week (01..52)\n\ %%w day of week (0..6); 0 represents Sunday\n\ %%W week number of year with Monday as first day of week (00..53)\n\ %%x locale's date representation (mm/dd/yy)\n\ %%X locale's time representation (%%H:%%M:%%S)\n\ %%y last two digits of year (00..99)\n\ %%Y year (1970...)\n\ %%z RFC-822 style numeric timezone (-0500) (a nonstandard extension)\n\ %%Z time zone (e.g., EDT), or nothing if no time zone is determinable\n\ \n\ By default, date pads numeric fields with zeroes. GNU date recognizes\n\ the following modifiers between `%%' and a numeric directive.\n\ \n\ `-' (hyphen) do not pad the field\n\ `_' (underscore) pad the field with spaces\n\ ")); puts (_("\nReport bugs to sh-utils-bugs@gnu.ai.mit.edu")); } exit (status); } ********** END: date.c ********** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!news-dc.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!ix.netcom.com!decwrl!news-master.cisco.com!su-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.sovam.com!sovam!newsfeed.cwix.com!195.99.66.215!news-feed1.eu.concert.net!btnet-peer!btnet!uknet!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!news-lond.gip.net!news-stkh.gip.net!newsfeed1.funet.fi!nntp.inet.fi!inet.fi!read1.inet.fi!not-for-mail From: ".o0 Shadow 0o." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pentium II compatibility Organization: Keyway Internet Service www.keyway.net Lines: 20 Message-ID: <76rnqf$7vt$1@madmax.keyway.net> References: <76fvco$amj$1@news.indigo.ie> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:00:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.252.183.11 X-Trace: read1.inet.fi 916480833 194.252.183.11 (Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:00:33 EET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:00:33 EET DST Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35237 Hmm... Lemme see... Brendan Rankin wrote in message <76fvco$amj$1@news.indigo.ie>... >I have recently upgraded to an Intel PentiumII machine and was hoping to >install Openstep 4.2/Mach. As only Pentium and Pentium Pro are listed on the >HCL, I just wanted to check that someone was successfully running Openstep >on a PII machine. > >Thanks > >Brendan. Read: Pentium II = Pentium Pro on steroids, with larger instruction cache optimized for both 32 and 16 bit instructions along with faster FSB architecture. Should work.... I don't see why not.... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!205.252.116.205!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!nntp.msen.com!news.altair.com!NewsNG.Chicago.Qual.Net!129.79.6.160!news.indiana.edu!not-for-mail From: dapena@valeri.hper.indiana.edu (Jesus Dapena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: need help with cc error message Date: 20 Jan 1999 16:33:02 GMT Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Lines: 33 Message-ID: <7850fu$3iv$1@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu> References: <782fug$tp3$1@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu> <7831s5$5ag$1@unlnews.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: valeri.hper.indiana.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Cc: rdieter@math.unl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35238 In <7831s5$5ag$1@unlnews.unl.edu> "Rex Dieter" wrote: > > Jesus Dapena wrote in message <782fug$tp3$1@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu>... > > I am running a FORTRAN program through f2c to produce a c > >program. Then, I am running the c program through the standard c > >compiler... This is giving me the following error message: > >cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1obj got fatal signal 11 > > Can anyone tell me what this means? > > > The compiler crashed. > > > Any ideas?? Help!! > > > Try, > cc -O0 -c problemFile.c > cc -static -c problemFile.c > cc -O0 -static -c problemFile.c > > -- Rex Yessssssss! cc -static -c problemFile.c did the trick! Thanks a million!! Jesus Dapena -- Jesus Dapena Department of Kinesiology 1-812-855-8407 Indiana University dapena@valeri.hper.indiana.edu Bloomington, IN 47405, USA http://www.indiana.edu/~sportbm/home.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!newsfeed.ecrc.net!isdnet!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: "Jonathan D. Gift" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help on Pros and Cons of NS 3.3 and OS 4.2 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:58:46 +0100 Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Lines: 8 Message-ID: <7855gl$dlm$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: meaux13-201.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35239 Is OS 4.2 worth the money if one is primarily interested in net access and Word Processing? Is more hardware supported or are they about equal? For Intel. Sorry. Thanks. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!nntp.abs.net!voyager.nildram.com!news.new-york.net!news2.new-york.net!not-for-mail From: "cleong" Subject: Re: Help on Pros and Cons of NS 3.3 and OS 4.2 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Complaints-To: Email abuse@news2.new-york.net if this posting is inappropriate X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: t1-59.crisp.net Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <7855gl$dlm$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> X-Trace: news2.new-york.net 916858967 25532 (None) [199.224.12.59] Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:06:27 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35240 Jonathan D. Gift wrote in message <7855gl$dlm$1@platane.wanadoo.fr>... >Is OS 4.2 worth the money if one is primarily interested in net access and >Word Processing? Is more hardware supported or are they about equal? > >For Intel. Sorry. No, it's not. There's more current software available for 4.2 though. Cliff Leong #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.150.97.11!feeder.qis.net!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> Lines: 20 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:45:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.98 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916890345 209.212.132.98 (Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:45:45 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:45:45 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32716 comp.sys.next.programmer:30280 comp.sys.next.misc:29222 comp.sys.next.software:35241 NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE A) Binaries should not be posted to non-binary groups. I just had to watch my wheel spin as your binary was downloaded through my 28.8 connection. Usenet is not the place for file distribution (that's why FTP was invented). Usenet feeds expire, people may or may not want the binary you just forced on them, etc (Plus I'm willing to be you violated the Usenet AUP for RR.com) B) Your message was not needed to be crossposted, and violated the guidelines for these groups C) Your efforts, while appreciated, are duplications of efforts already made. There was a replacement `date' command put on the FTP sites some time ago D) These little commands are not what I worry about, it is the frameworks used for 3.3 that worry me (how will they work after y2k?). TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!remarQ-easT!supernews.com!europa.clark.net!207.106.0.20!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How can I change the color of a cursor? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77t62b$br8$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> Lines: 20 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:54:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.98 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916890894 209.212.132.98 (Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:54:54 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:54:54 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35242 In <77t62b$br8$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> "Seung-joo Lee" wrote: > How can I change the color of the cursor in Edit.app? You can't > Why I want to do this is I can't recognize with ease where the cursor is > when doing Find & Replace The 'found' word should be highlighted when found TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.59.152.222!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help on Pros and Cons of NS 3.3 and OS 4.2 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <7855gl$dlm$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> Lines: 27 Message-ID: <1xxp2.342$If7.633376@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:53:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.98 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916890813 209.212.132.98 (Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:53:33 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:53:33 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35243 In <7855gl$dlm$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> "Jonathan D. Gift" wrote: > Is OS 4.2 worth the money if one is primarily interested in net access and > Word Processing? Is more hardware supported or are they about equal? Wordprocessing won't be much different. Net access will be. With 4.2 you can use OmniWeb 3 (for as long as the Omni folks keep supporting it). OW3 alone would be enough for me to buy 4.2 User. I would recommend at least 64mb of ram and a P-166 (higher is better) for use w/ OmniWeb. TjL ps -- there are a few other apps which also only work for 4.2 (not 4.x, but just 4.2) -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [still] WordPerfect having trouble providing services X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 40 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 04:08:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.98 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916891684 209.212.132.98 (Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:08:04 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:08:04 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35244 I swear someone out there is trying to drive me to dump NeXTStep/OpenStep. "Define in Webster" is no longer working for WordPerfect (nor any other Service such as 'Search in Quotations') It DOES work if I use OpenSesame to launch WP as root. It does NOT work if I make WP setuid root. I'm clueless. (I've reinstalled WP to no avail) If I lose Define in Webster, I might as well use another wordprocessor on another OS. Right now my choices are MSWord under Win95 or WP under FreeBSD. If I have to goto FreeBSD, OpenStep will vanish from my hard drive, which I am not quite ready to do (but I'm getting close). Here's my original post from 1/9/99, any clues appreciated, WP all of sudden stopped working wrt services. For example, I cannot Define in Webster or Search in Quotations or Open URL (OmniWeb). It will launch the necessary supporting app (ie Webster if Webster isn't already running) but then it immediately says "Error Providing Service Define in Webster" The services are working fine in other apps, ie Edit/Mail.app Any clues what would cause this? I'm stumped. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!distler From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:28:20 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-109-16.ots.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 X-Face: #m:M:[ZK_2%p0fVui~CU:PB(Lv<2h/^?'zdcs29!62@#^Fm:<)M w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK? X-Image-URL: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/x-image.jpg Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35245 In article , luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) wrote: >C) Your efforts, while appreciated, are duplications of efforts already made. > There was a replacement `date' command put on the FTP sites some time ago Really? I did not think the previous one allowed you to use Preferences.app to set the date after 2000. You could always use the command line, but this one lets you use the GUI to set the date. >D) These little commands are not what I worry about, it is the frameworks >used for 3.3 that worry me (how will they work after y2k?). According to Apple/NeXT, most (all but one) are OK. JD -- PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!205.252.116.205!howland.erols.net!usc!newshub.csu.net!news.csupomona.edu!not-for-mail From: "brandon m." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: files problem Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:24:07 -0800 Organization: California State Polytechnic University Pomona Lines: 24 Message-ID: <36A6E427.4754602F@mailcity.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mont58-81.mont.csupomona.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: kellogg.csupomona.net 916906904 15403 134.71.58.81 (21 Jan 1999 08:21:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@kellogg.csupomona.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Jan 1999 08:21:44 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35246 givens as follows: NeXTstaion Turbo Color NeXTstep 3.3 User Hey everyone, I'm having some trouble with the old NeXT box. I'm trying to decompress some. since i don't have the NeXT configured for the ethernet yet, I have to use my Intel to download files (onto DOS formatted disks of course). The NeXT can read the floppy fine, but it doesn't seem to want to unarchive the file on the floppy. I tried looking at the Console to see what was the problem, and it says that the file doesn't look like a Tar archive, or whatever archive it might be, when in fact it is. Am i trying to do something the computer can't, or is it that i'm not doing it right (how surprising if true)? Thanks for your time. mail address = fluids@mailcity.com (pardon my ignorance, but at least I had the intelligence to buy a NeXT, even if i don't know how to use the damn thing, hahahahaha.... er.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: jwdb@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] NcFTP 3 for OPENSTEP/Mach-Intel Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:40:08 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 22 Message-ID: <786sln$4j9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.24.25.1 X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jan 21 09:29:23 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998G OmniNetworking/1998G OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998G OmniFoundation/1998G OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x10.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 149.24.25.1 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35247 Hi there, Has anyone managed to compile NcFTP version 3 (a beta) for OPENSTEP Mach for Intel? (Or NEXTSTEP 3.3, I guess an executable built for 3.3 will run on 4.2.) I must be getting too old for this configure/source-code-hacking stuff. I'm spending too much time on it, and my employer actually pays me for something else... Thanks in advance, JWdB -- Jan-Willem de Bruijn - SCT / F Y G I R DNRC member - http://www.fygir.com/ -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!diablo.theplanet.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: jwdb@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] NcFTP 3 for OPENSTEP/Mach-Intel Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:40:07 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 22 Message-ID: <786sll$4j8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.24.25.1 X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jan 21 09:29:23 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998G OmniNetworking/1998G OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998G OmniFoundation/1998G OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x10.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 149.24.25.1 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35248 Hi there, Has anyone managed to compile NcFTP version 3 (a beta) for OPENSTEP Mach for Intel? (Or NEXTSTEP 3.3, I guess an executable built for 3.3 will run on 4.2.) I must be getting too old for this configure/source-code-hacking stuff. I'm spending too much time on it, and my employer actually pays me for something else... Thanks in advance, JWdB -- Jan-Willem de Bruijn - SCT / F Y G I R DNRC member - http://www.fygir.com/ -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!bignews.mediaways.net!news.ruhrgebiet.individual.net!news.knipp.de!object-factory.com!not-for-mail From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] NcFTP 3 for OPENSTEP/Mach-Intel Date: 21 Jan 1999 10:44:07 GMT Organization: the secret circle of the NSRC Lines: 16 Message-ID: <7870dn$bcb$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <786sll$4j8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: fafnir.object-factory.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.4 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35249 jwdb@my-dejanews.com wrote: > Has anyone managed to compile NcFTP version 3 (a beta) for OPENSTEP Mach for > Intel? (Or NEXTSTEP 3.3, I guess an executable built for 3.3 will run on > 4.2.) Yes. I have completely BSD-ized the signal handling and also fixed a couple of things in the source while I was at it. That was for b15 and I've sent my (small) changes to the author, but of course nothing had been changed for b16. I'll have a stab at it when 3.0 final comes out, mainly for the library. In the meantime, email me at if you want the modified b15 source. Beware that this is still beta, and ncftp3 is really a huge step down from previous versions (not only IMO). Holger #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [still] WordPerfect having trouble providing services Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 21 Jan 1999 12:51:41 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: Message-ID: <19990121075141.15565.00000469@ng19.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35250 I'm having similar difficulties with regards to WingZ--won't work unless it's run as root. I'm wondering if there's something in the file system (aging?) which causes a file to lose it's executable by others bit? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.northeast.verio.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!dca1-feed4.news.digex.net!digex!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: backup options Date: 21 Jan 1999 07:51:02 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Lines: 81 Message-ID: <7877rm$dkl@papoose.quick.com> References: <77r01e$1ebo$1@uvaix7e1.comp.UVic.CA> <78082b$hi5$7@agate.berkeley.edu> <784jsv$7jt@papoose.quick.com> <1999Jan20.173152.1031@news.online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35251 In article <1999Jan20.173152.1031@news.online.de>, Thomas F. Unke wrote: >In <784jsv$7jt@papoose.quick.com> James E. Quick wrote: > > >> I wish more OSes had this capability. With NS, however, I have never >> missed it. Being able to easily boot from the CD and mount enough >> to restore from tape (which I've only needed once) was pretty painless. > >I do my backups on another machine (with a tape drive), exporting the NeXT >root fs. > >In case of a crash, is there any *easy* way of booting single user from CD >and then exporting the disk for recovery ? I tried once but because the >network is not available then, I probably have to make a full install from >CD and then loading the rest from tape. I never had a crash so far, so I had >never really depend on this procedure. But it's nice to know what to do when >it happens.... It's alway a good idea to do backup and restore via the native tool you will be using on the restore side in an emergency. So rather than have the remote side back up your nfs mounted disk, use rdump or gnutar via the rmt interface to access the remote tape drive yourself. This has the side benefit of using less network bandwidth than nfs. NFS was designed for R/W access in which read predominates. Doing a large volume of write activity over NFS is pretty expensive. Disaster recovery is always something we tend to avoid thinking about but a little work up front can make like much more livable when the worst occurs. For a system with a localy resident tape drive. 1. Boot from the installation CD. (Do you have at least one copy of the boot floppy and at least one copy of the additional driver floppy you used?) 2. Mount the failed root (or Builddisk if you just replaced that drive. You will have to use the -n option since /etc/mtab is on a read only filesystem. 3. Now load up the tape driver: /usr/etc/driverLoader d=SCSITape 4. run mtset or equivalent to set variable length mode. 5. cd into the bad root partition you just mounted. 6. restore from the tape. 7. Now cd back to /, umount the partition and reboot. For a system with a remote tape drive you may be able to get the network driver loaded in a similar manner to the above, then manually run ifconfig, route add, etc to get yourself up, but this may be frought with other gotchas. Since I've never done it that way, I'll describe a longer but more straight forward approach. 1. As part of your backup cycle, make a floppy containing a copy of /etc/netinfo, /etc/hostconfig, /etc/rc* (if any differ from the stock build), and /etc/resolv.conf. 2. Boot into normal installation mode. 3. Initialize and install the minimal boot pkg. 4. reboot. 5. Configure your ethernet driver. 6. Restore your netinfo, and basic configuration settings from the floppy. 7. Make sure you are trusted as root via rsh on the tape host. 8. reboot - you now have your system back on the network. 9. Log in to the character console as root. 10. For dump restore you can use rrestore for gnutar use something like gnutar xvf tapehost:/dev/rst0. 11. Reboot. Now you have the system back, but still may have work to do. Some of your applications may fail to work because they need to be relicensed. You *do* have all you license keys handy don't you? Just some things to think about - (before they happen). I hope you find this instructive but that you never find it helpful. . . -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | If only the HMO would cover my allergy to gravity. ) | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!renate.komtel.net!not-for-mail!thomas From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:20:55 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Lines: 19 Message-ID: <1999Jan21.112055.395@news.online.de> References: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> Reply-To: thf@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.7.131.156 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: renate.komtel.net 916930407 29775 212.7.131.156 (21 Jan 1999 14:53:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@renate.komtel.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Jan 1999 14:53:27 GMT Cc: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35252 In Jacques Distler wrote: > In article , > luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) wrote: > > >C) Your efforts, while appreciated, are duplications of efforts already made. > > There was a replacement `date' command put on the FTP sites some time ago > > > Really? > > I did not think the previous one allowed you to use Preferences.app to set > the date after 2000. You could always use the command line, but this one > lets you use the GUI to set the date. I recently got the 'date' command form PEAK and it works fine from the command line *and* from Preferences.app. No need for a second 'date'. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newscore.univie.ac.at!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [still] WordPerfect having trouble providing services Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:26:11 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 35 Message-ID: <787kek$oj6$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <19990121075141.15565.00000469@ng19.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.120.3.207 X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jan 21 16:26:11 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x11.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 163.120.3.207 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35253 In article <19990121075141.15565.00000469@ng19.aol.com>, willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) wrote: > I'm having similar difficulties with regards to WingZ--won't work unless it's > run as root. > > I'm wondering if there's something in the file system (aging?) which causes a > file to lose it's executable by others bit? > > William > > William Adams > http://members.aol.com/willadams > Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. > > I have the same troble with CDPlayer will run as root but not as another user. My only guess is that one or more of the library files are configured as read only for non-root users and you need to edit them (my be program specific libraries, if you installed as root root may be only one with access). Try installing the apps in the /User/yourname/Apps logged in as yourself and see if it goes. Jon The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!isdnet!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: "Jonathan D. Gift" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NextStep 3.2 Problems HDD >504MB? Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:12:22 +0100 Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Lines: 7 Message-ID: <787ne2$i14$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: meaux12-155.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35254 I read at NextAnswers that NextStep 3.2 had some problems between the Bios and the OS with regards hard drives over 500MB. Is this the case with older BIOS and today's large drives, or all large drives whatever the BIOS? Thanks. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!195.252.142.5.MISMATCH!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <787mru$32n$12252@news01.roka.net> Control: cancel <787mru$32n$12252@news01.roka.net> Date: 21 Jan 1999 17:08:11 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: steffi@pointofmail.de Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!news-fra.maz.net!news01.roka.net!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: NEW !!! www.camsex.de X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:04:25 PST X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.97.40.117 X-Original-From: steffi@pointofmail.de X-Original-X-Trace: news01.roka.net 916938430 3159 194.97.40.117 (21 Jan 1999 17:07:10 GMT) X-CosmoTraq: F\"[Y*N8)1HJ3UBWV_BHH6XU/8D`8H"926.@?11\5^`"L%NM%U= X-Cancel-ID: 4*DN:NK]HXTN^V/:P"8[*2ET#[8Y; X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 10 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5759225 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!xmission!nnrp.xmission!not-for-mail From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help on Pros and Cons of NS 3.3 and OS 4.2 Date: 21 Jan 1999 19:21:24 GMT Organization: MiscKit Development Lines: 21 Message-ID: <787unk$t0a$1@news.xmission.com> References: <7855gl$dlm$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> <1xxp2.342$If7.633376@newshog.newsread.com> Reply-To: don@misckit.com NNTP-Posting-Host: brain.misckit.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.xmission.com 916946484 29706 207.135.129.36 (21 Jan 1999 19:21:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@xmission.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Jan 1999 19:21:24 GMT X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35255 luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) wrote: > In <7855gl$dlm$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> "Jonathan D. Gift" wrote: > > Is OS 4.2 worth the money if one is primarily interested in net > > access and Word Processing? Is more hardware supported or are they > > about equal? > > Wordprocessing won't be much different. One "gotcha" here--spell checking in OpenWrite is broken on 4.2 IIRC and you have to do some tweaking to get it working. And if you tweak wrong, you may break spell checking system-wide. And maybe someday I'll have time to get around to fixing my box... :-P -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com My home page #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.pop.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!netnews.com!feeder.qis.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <787vv8$vn$174@hfc.hk.super.net> Control: cancel <787vv8$vn$174@hfc.hk.super.net> Date: 21 Jan 1999 19:58:43 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: Mr Wong Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.cwix.com!205.197.251.110!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!outfeed1.news.cais.net!news2.hkt.net!nntp.hk.super.net!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: 99¦~ºô¸ô¦æ¾P X-Original-Date: 21 Jan 1999 19:42:32 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: max4-9.hk.super.net X-Original-From: Mr Wong X-CosmoTraq: !5:MUE\JI236JEGWK'"=F>OB<2I\O[R_@R'>V!0G$3U$4#EU`12NF-7O X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 10 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5759980 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.cwix.com!208.128.117.2!newsrelay.courtave.net!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: "Rex Dieter" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NextStep 3.2 Problems HDD >504MB? Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:33:26 -0600 Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 16 Message-ID: <7889n7$116$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <787ne2$i14$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: sting.unl.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35256 Jonathan D. Gift wrote in message <787ne2$i14$1@platane.wanadoo.fr>... >I read at NextAnswers that NextStep 3.2 had some problems between the Bios >and the OS with regards hard drives over 500MB. Is this the case with older >BIOS and today's large drives, or all large drives whatever the BIOS? This problem exists for all bioses and all IDE drives with NEXTSTEP 3.2. This problem goes away (at least up to 8.4GB IDE drives, provided you have proper bios support) in NEXTSTEP 3.3 (using the latest EIDE driver) and Openstep 4.x (4.2 is best, again, with the latest EIDE driver) -- Rex #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!isdnet!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: "pop.wanadoo.fr" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: software for nextcube Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:11:25 +0100 Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Lines: 4 Message-ID: <788c2l$rjd$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: metz3-186.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35257 i'm searching all software for nextcube, please answer me at: dies.irae1@wanadoo.fr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!nntp.flash.net!nntp.corpcomm.net!uunet!dfw.uu.net!ffx.uu.net!in4.uu.net!news7-gui.server.ntli.net!news-feed.ntli.net!not-for-mail From: "RAV4" Newsgroups: comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.software.international,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software Subject: - [ £20.00 worth of software for 50p ] - Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:22:18 -0000 Organization: Virgin News Service Lines: 8 Message-ID: <788d94$nne$1@nclient5-gui.server.virgin.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.168.236.40 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.publish.cdrom.software:50643 comp.software.config-mgmt:14250 comp.software.international:8518 comp.software.testing:25909 comp.software-eng:65731 comp.sys.next.software:35258 Got a 386, 486, 586 or Pentium Computer ? 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Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.software.international,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <788dd9$np5$1@nclient5-gui.server.virgin.net> Control: cancel <788dd9$np5$1@nclient5-gui.server.virgin.net> Date: 21 Jan 1999 23:48:22 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: "RAV4" Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed.xcom.net!news.shore.net!uunet!ffx.uu.net!in4.uu.net!news7-gui.server.ntli.net!news-feed.ntli.net!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: - [ SPEED UP Your old computer ] - X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:24:40 -0000 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.168.236.40 X-Original-From: "RAV4" X-CosmoTraq: RR21UG-0(P)^AVSB7NI<^&P8!/J%B5;5!7/%6%DE%]$!5E+_(,=O[2YG X-Cancel-ID: `FB+7-_RE>KMK>DGN Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] Configuring a NeXTprinter for a Samba service Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:35:42 -0700 Lines: 46 Message-ID: <36A7F20D.DD85B611@aries.tucson.saic.com> References: <780fhu$m7v@news.acns.nwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: gatespass.tucson.saic.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; U; IRIX 5.3 IP12) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32722 comp.sys.next.software:35260 > > > I'm trying to configure a NeXTprinter (black hardware) to work with Samba. > Does anyone know how I should configure the service in Samba and how (if > necessary) I need to modify the printcap or Netinfo entries? Let's see.... Black turboslab, version 3.3, Black printer I used Samba.1.9.18.p10 .... ( a fairly recent version) in smb.conf , under /usr/local/samba/lib/smb.conf I have [global] printcap name = /usr/local/samba/lib/printcap printing = bsd ; encrypt passwords = yes ( I could NOT get encrypted passwords to work with a Win 98 box..... had to turn to a Microsoft trick to turn off encrypted passwords ) [printers] comment = All Printers path = /usr/spool/samba browseable = no guest ok = no writable = no printable = yes /usr/local/samba/lib/printcap has a single line entry: Local_Printer Printer is configured as standard Next printer .. nothing special there.... Some of this I got from the SAMBA faq, It's been a while, but don't think I did anything with NetInfo. good luck MIke #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!firehose.mindspring.com!not-for-mail From: farz_no@spam.mindspring.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help on Pros and Cons of NS 3.3 and OS 4.2 Date: 22 Jan 1999 07:26:19 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 44 Message-ID: <78996r$56s$1@camel18.mindspring.com> References: <787unk$t0a$1@news.xmission.com> Reply-To: farz_no@spam. mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.c1.af Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35261 In article <787unk$t0a$1@news.xmission.com> don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman) writes: >luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) wrote: >> In <7855gl$dlm$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> "Jonathan D. Gift" wrote: >> > Is OS 4.2 worth the money if one is primarily interested in net >> > access and Word Processing? Is more hardware supported or are they >> > about equal? >> >> Wordprocessing won't be much different. > >One "gotcha" here--spell checking in OpenWrite is broken on 4.2 IIRC and you >have to do some tweaking to get it working. And if you tweak wrong, you may >break spell checking system-wide. > >And maybe someday I'll have time to get around to fixing my box... :-P > >-- >Later, > >-Don Yacktman >don@misckit.com >My home page The solution I found and posted a very long time ago is not very difficult to implement. And more importantly it has worked well since. :-) I don't have a copy of my original post but others have posted it at various times since then so a search of Deja News should turn it up. Btw, I have to agree with the general consensus. Other than OminWeb there is nothing compelling about 4.2. And in fact compiling generic software off the Internet with the 4.2 tools is generally much less likely to succeed than with 3.2/3.3. Thanks NeXT. :-() -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided farz@mindspring.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!diablo.theplanet.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [still] WordPerfect having trouble providing services Date: 22 Jan 1999 08:39:18 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 51 Message-ID: <789dfm$f0k$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <19990121075141.15565.00000469@ng19.aol.com> <787kek$oj6$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kimba.channelu.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Cc: josborn@depauw.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35262 In <787kek$oj6$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> josborn@depauw.edu wrote: > In article <19990121075141.15565.00000469@ng19.aol.com>, > willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) wrote: > > I'm having similar difficulties with regards to WingZ--won't work unless it's > > run as root. > > > > I'm wondering if there's something in the file system (aging?) which causes a > > file to lose it's executable by others bit? > > > > William > > > > William Adams > > http://members.aol.com/willadams > > Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. > > > > > > I have the same troble with CDPlayer will run as root but not as another > user. My only guess is that one or more of the library files are configured > as read only for non-root users and you need to edit them (my be program > specific libraries, if you installed as root root may be only one with > access). Try installing the apps in the /User/yourname/Apps logged in as > yourself and see if it goes. > > Jon I just thought I'd post a data point here.. A while ago I started noticing some very strange filesystem stuff going on. A couple of my libraries got hosed and my suspicion is that it was because of the following.. Turn OFF write caching on your HD's.. A while ago people were oogling performance gains by turning them on.. Well I suspect part of my libraries getting hosed is because I had the write cache on.. write caching may be good on a swap drive - maybe even a temp drive.. But not a root drive. Use caching at your own risk.. Now maybe with the new Adaptec drivers tagged command queuing is maybe supported which would solve a lot of problems, and safely enhance performance.. The write cache thing is only a suspicion on my part I have no real hard evidence other than I know some of my libs did get hosed - so either Openstep I/O is flaky, the drives, or the write cache, or who knows - intel ghosts.. Since I show no syslog errors of fs problems in any case. No lost+found inodes etc. Linux is stable and solid on the same box. Randy Rencsok rencsok or spammers at ruin d0t the d0t internet d0t channelu d0t com http://www.channelu.com/Staff.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: J.-U. Thieme Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Papst Luefter fuer NeXT-Turbo Date: 22 Jan 1999 09:17:49 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Lines: 31 Message-ID: <789fnt$9bf$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Reply-To: J.-U. Thieme NNTP-Posting-Host: barrier-17.charite.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35263 Hallo, e s n e r v t !! Ich muss es jetzt endlich mal angehen meine Turbo-Color etwas leiser zu bekommen. Deshalb der alte Trick mit dem temperaturgesteuerten Luefter und dem Einkleben mittels Silikonkleber. Doch wo gibt es z.Zt. im Raum Berlin temp.geregelte Papstluefter in dr Groesse 80x80 ?? CIAO JUT -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 58062 - - fax: +49 30 450 58904 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - -------------------------------------------------------------- - "I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no - - problem with their success, they've earned their success - - ...for the most part -- I have a problem with the fact - - that they just make really third-rate products." - - - - Steven Paul Jobs - -------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!newshost.pe.utexas.edu!nextdown.pe.utexas.edu!paulus From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Palm-Unix under NS 3.3 ? Date: 22 Jan 1999 13:23:41 GMT Organization: Petroleum and Geosystem Engineering, U of Texas at Austin, Austin TX Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: <789u4t$tcs$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextdown.pe.utexas.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35264 Has anybody got success compiling the Palm-Unix package under NextStep 3.3 ? Or is there another package that I can use to sync my PalmPilot PDA on my NeXT?. Thanks, Paulus #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!isdnet!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: "Jonathan D. Gift" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NextStep 3.2 Problems HDD >504MB? Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:30:03 +0100 Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Lines: 3 Message-ID: <78a93j$p72$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> References: <787ne2$i14$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> <7889n7$116$1@unlnews.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: meaux12-101.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35265 Thanks for the help. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <22019917.5033@hotmail.com> Control: cancel <22019917.5033@hotmail.com> Date: 22 Jan 1999 22:42:54 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: fhjior@hotmail.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!posterchild1!hotmail.com X-Original-Subject: SOFTWARE your WEBSITE needs! LOOK! 24997 X-Original-Date: Friday, 22 Jan 1999 17:50:33 -0600 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p103.block2.tc1.state.ma.tiac.com X-Original-From: fhjior@hotmail.com X-CosmoTraq: ^XR7]%L*C5I<*+1WSK0GTIYRTMD4W[MUISW-$`4+=KX\!CSS`O\L]&UB X-Cancel-ID: JL;\.+K-<5M+581W5VJPX]KV+&CJ_:&+>X6TIX>:X!,*)ER8&BW1NZNU X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5765357 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.59.152.222!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: artdotcom@aol.com (ArtDotCom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nextstep Y2K News? Lines: 4 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 23 Jan 1999 04:39:03 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990122233903.18010.00001432@ng16.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35266 Anyone have any news on Nextstep Y2K resolutions? Just curious. . . Nhat #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.cwix.com!128.174.5.49!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: Jeremy Subject: Re: Palm-Unix under NS 3.3 ? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: ntcs-ip-s18.uchicago.edu Message-ID: To: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu Lines: 15 Sender: me@drigel Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 References: <789u4t$tcs$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 04:44:41 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35267 Version 0.8.7 compiled fine for me. I had trouble compiling newer versions. I haven't had any troubles w/ 0.8.7. paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) writes: > > Has anybody got success compiling the Palm-Unix package under NextStep 3.3 ? > Or is there another package that I can use to sync my PalmPilot PDA > on my NeXT?. > > Thanks, > > Paulus > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pasadena1@aol.com (Pasadena1) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Y2K compliance for black hardware? Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 23 Jan 1999 08:36:16 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <77enh9$4ls@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <19990123033616.29860.00001497@ng36.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35268 I know many of you in here have read this release regarding NS 3.3 & Y2K, but I'm posting this here for newcomers or for those you haven't read it yet. This is Apples statement regarding Nextstep 3.3 and Y2K. Creation Date: August 31, 1998 Keywords: NEXTSTEP, 3.3, Y2K The following is Apple Computer's statement regarding the Year 2000 compliance of NeXTSTEP 3.3 applications and the NeXTSTEP operating system. For Year 2000 information on other Apple Enterprise software products such as OPENSTEP and WebObjects, please see our Apple Enterprise Year 2000 home page at http://enterprise.apple.com/y2k/. 1. The NeXTSTEP 3.3 operating system is not Year 2000 compliant. NeXTSTEP 3.3 contains known Year 2000 problems, including problems with the date command and the Preferences application that may make it impossible to set the date on your computer after January 1, 2000. There are also known problems with email and with certain Unix utilities such as at, atrun, atq, troff, nroff, and mail. Customers using NeXTSTEP 3.3 should upgrade to OPENSTEP or MacOS X-based solutions. Please contact your sales representative for sales and pricing information. 2. One framework in NeXTSTEP 3.3 which performed explicit date-handling was DBKit, the predecessor to Apple's Enterprise Objects Framework. DBKit did not handle dates in a Year 2000-compliant fashion, and therefore any application which makes use of DBKit is likely to experience Year 2000 problems. 3. The third-party tools and libraries that shipped with NeXTSTEP 3.3 have not been audited for Year 2000 compliance. Some third-party tood not have an equivalent to the OPENSTEP 'NSDate' object; most applications and frameworks used UNIX utilities and functions to manage dates. These UNIX constructs and any custom date handling an application performs may experience Year 2000 problems. For this reason, the applications that shipped with NeXTSTEP 3.3 may not handle the Year 2000 transition properly, even if they are run in an OPENSTEP environment. Your custom NeXTSTEP applications will run in an OPENSTEP environment only if they do no date handling, or if they were specifically programmed with custom Year 2000-compliant date handling routines. #################################################################### From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [still] WordPerfect having trouble providing services Date: 22 Jan 99 07:18:04 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <19990121075141.15565.00000469@ng19.aol.com> <787kek$oj6$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <789dfm$f0k$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In-reply-to: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com's message of 22 Jan 1999 08:39:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.79.56.105 X-Trace: 23 Jan 1999 04:59:49 -0500, 209.79.56.105 X-Authenticated-User: shess Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!205.197.251.110!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!dca1-feed1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.one.net!209.79.56.105 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35269 In article <789dfm$f0k$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com writes: The write cache thing is only a suspicion on my part I have no real hard evidence other than I know some of my libs did get hosed - so either Openstep I/O is flaky, the drives, or the write cache, or who knows - intel ghosts.. Since I show no syslog errors of fs problems in any case. No lost+found inodes etc. But, the libraries shouldn't be getting written too but once in a blue moon. And the directories the libraries are in shouldn't change but once in a blue moon, either. The last-accessed times for the inodes involved _will_ be updated frequently, but since the other information in the inode should remain the same, this should only cause corruption if the inode's sectors are somehow corrupted, perhaps by a partial write. And I can't imagine how write-caching would make that more likely (write-caching should result in strictly <= the number of writes to the inodes versus no write-caching). I'm not saying it's impossible. It's a complex system. But write-cached seems as much a vodoo fix as replacing the drives or the SCSI card or your memory, at this point. Are you using a UPS? If you infrequently hang/crash OpenStep, do you wait 30 seconds to a minute for all caches to clear before hitting the Big Red Switch? Linux is stable and solid on the same box. Do you run Linux for similar time periods? When you do so, do you use it as intensively? Later, -- scott hess (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: artdotcom@aol.com (ArtDotCom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Y2K compliance for black hardware? Lines: 8 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 23 Jan 1999 04:34:20 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <77enh9$4ls@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <19990122233420.18010.00001429@ng16.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35270 Apple has released a state on their enterprise website about 3.3's Y2K complient issues. Check it out, at "www.next.com" Briefly, Apple stated that 3.3 is not Y2K complient and that they suggest upgrading to Openstep for Mach 4.2. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!blackbush.xlink.net!renate.komtel.net!not-for-mail!thomas From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: backup options Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:31:52 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Lines: 18 Message-ID: <1999Jan20.173152.1031@news.online.de> References: <77r01e$1ebo$1@uvaix7e1.comp.UVic.CA> <77vpl4$5tn$1@news.spacelab.net> <78082b$hi5$7@agate.berkeley.edu> <784jsv$7jt@papoose.quick.com> Reply-To: thf@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.7.132.76 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: renate.komtel.net 916850138 20486 212.7.132.76 (20 Jan 1999 16:35:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@renate.komtel.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jan 1999 16:35:38 GMT Cc: jq@papoose.quick.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35271 In <784jsv$7jt@papoose.quick.com> James E. Quick wrote: > I wish more OSes had this capability. With NS, however, I have never > missed it. Being able to easily boot from the CD and mount enough > to restore from tape (which I've only needed once) was pretty painless. I do my backups on another machine (with a tape drive), exporting the NeXT root fs. In case of a crash, is there any *easy* way of booting single user from CD and then exporting the disk for recovery ? I tried once but because the network is not available then, I probably have to make a full install from CD and then loading the rest from tape. I never had a crash so far, so I had never really depend on this procedure. But it's nice to know what to do when it happens.... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: remove Date: 24 Jan 1999 00:12:56 GMT Organization: Draeger KI GmbH Lines: 38 Message-ID: <78doi8$s2q$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <789fnt$9bf$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Reply-To: jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de NNTP-Posting-Host: barrier-17.charite.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Cc: jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35272 In <789fnt$9bf$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> J.-U. Thieme wrote: > Hallo, > > e s n e r v t !! > > Ich muss es jetzt endlich mal angehen meine Turbo-Color etwas leiser > zu bekommen. Deshalb der alte Trick mit dem temperaturgesteuerten > Luefter und dem Einkleben mittels Silikonkleber. > > Doch wo gibt es z.Zt. im Raum Berlin temp.geregelte Papstluefter > in dr Groesse 80x80 ?? > remove ... This posting is only for de.comp.sys.next. I can not understand why I found this also in this group ?? CIAO JUT -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - send mail to : jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - - - send faxes to : +49 30 450 58904 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : home office in berlin (germany) - -------------------------------------------------------------- - "I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no - - problem with their success, they've earned their success - - ...for the most part -- I have a problem with the fact - - that they just make really third-rate products." - - - - Steven Paul Jobs - -------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:44:23 -0800 From: max@maxgraphic.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: using a NextStation as a fax server Message-ID: Organization: Maxgraphic X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.180.197.180 X-Trace: 23 Jan 1999 18:44:22 +0600, 209.180.197.180 Lines: 12 X-Report: Report abuse to abuse@uswest.net. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.corridex.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.uswest.net!news1.uswest.net!max Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.soft-sys.nextstep:3619 comp.sys.next.misc:29228 comp.sys.next.programmer:30290 comp.sys.next.software:35273 I have a four-node AppleTalk network on 10baseT. I'm interested in using a mono NextStation as a fax server with NXFax, but I can't figure out if NXFax clients have to be running NEXTSTEP. I'd like to be able to use a the standard LaserWriter 8 driver from a Mac to send a print job to the NextStation via ethernet, then enter the fax info at the NextStation, and have it raster the PostScript and send it out. Is this possible? Thanks for any info. (Thanks also to Timothy Luoma for suggesting NXFax.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!blackbush.xlink.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.alt.net!usenet From: not@this.addy.ca (stiv) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Whatever Happened To ...? Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:56:47 GMT Organization: Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - http://www.altopia.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: <36aa43a0.693507@news.alt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35274 Newsflash 4. And that other newsreader that acted like an Agent clone? (can't remember its name). Or offline capabilities for Radical News? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!agate!usenet From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: using a NextStation as a fax server Date: 24 Jan 1999 03:04:44 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 31 Distribution: world Message-ID: <78e2kc$1pf$1@agate.berkeley.edu> References: Reply-To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: moica.berkeley.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35275 In article max@maxgraphic.com (Max Pinton) writes: >I have a four-node AppleTalk network on 10baseT. I'm interested in using a >mono NextStation as a fax server with NXFax, but I can't figure out if >NXFax clients have to be running NEXTSTEP. > >I'd like to be able to use a the standard LaserWriter 8 driver from a Mac >to send a print job to the NextStation via ethernet, then enter the fax >info at the NextStation, and have it raster the PostScript and send it >out. > >Is this possible? Thanks for any info. I've done this for Windows NT/95/98 printing through SAMBA to NXFax on a NeXT. I am confident that you can do the same with Macs printing via CAP, see Frank Seigerts (sp?) CAPer (GUI frontend to CAP). One missing link is a small socket app that runs on the Mac, which will let you enter the fax number upon call back from the NeXT print system. This should be very easy for someone who has written a network app for the Mac. See the Windows version at: ftp://pinoko.berkeley.edu/pub/next/sources/samba-nxfax1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz And ask someone to write a Mac app that is equivalent to respond.exe. I. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.89.75.15!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <306916549240@digifix.com> Date: 24 Jan 1999 04:44:19 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 327 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <13193917154022@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:117966 comp.sys.next.announce:4882 comp.sys.next.hardware:35910 comp.sys.next.software:35276 comp.sys.next.misc:29230 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32736 comp.sys.next.bugs:5014 comp.sys.next.programmer:30292 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!newspeer1.nac.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!nntp2.cerf.net!socal.verio.net!nntp.ni.net!nnrp2.ni.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <36AAB9EB.CBEC6E6E@ni.net> From: jarmo@ni.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LOTTO SOFTWARE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 7 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 06:16:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.183.201.206 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:16:37 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35277 NEW !!! 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Click here http://www.winlotto2000.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <36AAB9EB.CBEC6E6E@ni.net> Control: cancel <36AAB9EB.CBEC6E6E@ni.net> Date: 24 Jan 1999 06:24:33 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: jarmo@ni.net Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!nntp2.cerf.net!socal.verio.net!nntp.ni.net!nnrp2.ni.net!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: LOTTO SOFTWARE X-Original-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 06:16:37 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.183.201.206 X-Original-From: jarmo@ni.net X-CosmoTraq: 0E-F%TWG7QW_?:U\#2MH9"#S,8<%$TR1> X-Cancel-ID: 1NH/2\[AA&YO\:A@8'.9!W8:/WO^$;2>GR'8D)"CR3>F2F^K+D'DSL]1 X-Commentary: Spam is lame. 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Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OSX , Objective C & web programming Organization: University of Bonn, Germany Lines: 13 Message-ID: <1dl8ws5.7q5xlqski16oN@ascend-tk-p6.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net> <1dl8giu.y1eolq1q5f2cwN@ascend-tk-p54.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <369423C4.93FE21EB@ciemed.nus.edu.sg> User-Agent: MacSOUP/D-2.4 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:15:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.252.183.11 X-Trace: read1.inet.fi 916690515 194.252.183.11 (Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:15:15 EET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:15:15 EET DST Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!news.planetc.com!leto.backbone.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!krypton.inbe.net!INbe.net!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!enews.sgi.com!news.idt.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!pitt.edu!newsflash.concordia.ca!news.dal.ca!usenet.logical.net!demos!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newsfeed1.funet.fi!nntp.inet.fi!inet.fi!read1.inet.fi!not-for-mail Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35278 Kay Schulz wrote: > does it come with the ProjectBuilder ? > OSx Server? People on the OSX-ML say that it comes with WO, which comes with PB and IB and WOB and EOFModeler etc... Dirk -- No RISC - No fun: http://www.virtualgamestation.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!hub1.ispnews.com!news7.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Subject: Re: How can I change the color of a cursor? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: <77t62b$br8$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> In-Reply-To: From: Paul X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00058 Lines: 30 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.54.19.20 X-Trace: news7.ispnews.com 917162417 209.54.19.20 (Sun, 24 Jan 1999 02:20:17 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 02:20:17 EDT Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 07:20:17 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35279 On 01/20/99, TjL wrote: >In <77t62b$br8$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> "Seung-joo Lee" wrote: > >> How can I change the color of the cursor in Edit.app? > >You can't Yes you can. Back in ~95 there was a postcript hack of the cursor that made it larger and multicolored. The script is in DejaNews (all one line) http://x15.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=100526823&threaded=1&CONTEXT=917162135. 1683423299&hitnum=0 > >> Why I want to do this is I can't recognize with ease where the cursor is >> when doing Find & Replace > >The 'found' word should be highlighted when found > >TjL > > >-- >"I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that >was possible. Then it dawned on me..... > AOL is sending out CDs now." - me >(Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!blackbush.xlink.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!isdnet!uu.fr!imaginet.net!imaginet.fr!usenet From: latitude@imaginet.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for an IRC application called CIRCE.app Date: 24 Jan 1999 10:43:56 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 2 Message-ID: <78ethc$8aq$1@news.imaginet.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.68.2.61 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35280 I am looking for an IRC application called Circe if someone has it please let me know. Thank you #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!blackbush.xlink.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!isdnet!uu.fr!imaginet.net!imaginet.fr!usenet From: latitude@imaginet.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for an IRC application called CIRCE.app Date: 24 Jan 1999 10:53:42 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 2 Message-ID: <78eu3m$8aq$2@news.imaginet.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.68.2.61 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35281 I am looking for an IRC application called CIRCE.app if someone still has it please let me know. Thank you #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!isdnet!uu.fr!imaginet.net!imaginet.fr!usenet From: latitude@imaginet.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does anyone know if it‚s possible to adapt ICQ for nextstep 3.3 ? Date: 24 Jan 1999 10:58:10 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 2 Message-ID: <78euc2$8aq$3@news.imaginet.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.68.2.61 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35282 I would like to use ICQ on NS 3.3; does anyone know how to make it possible? Thank you. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!netnews.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How can I change the color of a cursor? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <77t62b$br8$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> Lines: 46 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:37:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.100 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 917210229 209.212.132.100 (Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:37:09 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:37:09 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35283 In Paul wrote: > On 01/20/99, TjL wrote: > >In <77t62b$br8$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> "Seung-joo Lee" wrote: > > > >> How can I change the color of the cursor in Edit.app? > > > >You can't > > Yes you can. Back in ~95 there was a postcript hack of the cursor that made > it larger and multicolored. The script is in DejaNews (all one line) > http://x15.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=100526823&threaded=1&CONTEXT=917162135. > 1683423299&hitnum=0 That's not what they were asking, see below: > >> Why I want to do this is I can't recognize with ease where the cursor is > >> when doing Find & Replace > > > >The 'found' word should be highlighted when found There are two things being discussed under the name "cursor" One is the location of the mouse anywhere on the screen One is the location of the cursor in a document. You can indeed change the color of the mouse locator. You cannot (AFAIK) change the color of the cursor (aka "insertion point") in an Edit document when doing Find/Replace. The script, called 'cursor-color,' is somewhat misleading in its name, as what it does is change the mouse indicator. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!isdnet!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: "pop.wanadoo.fr" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: games for NeXT cube Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:30:51 +0100 Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Lines: 4 Message-ID: <78arbv$r1v$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: metz2-29.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35284 i'm searching games (role playing games...) for my new NeXT Cube, dies.irae1@wanadoo.fr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newshub.northeast.verio.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!usenet From: root@ejv108.rh.psu.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Netscape for NS3.3 Date: 25 Jan 1999 05:19:25 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 6 Message-ID: <78gust$15qi@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Reply-To: root@ejv108.rh.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ejv108.rh.psu.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35285 Does anybody know where you can get a compiled binary of Netscape for a NeXTstation running Nextstep 3.3? -john root@ejv108.rh.psu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!hub1.ispnews.com!news14.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <36AC9DEA.3E0278AD@kana.com> From: Patrick T Hickey Organization: Irrationally Small Modular Office Advocacy Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Netscape for NS3.3 References: <78gust$15qi@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.107.225.120 X-Trace: news14.ispnews.com 917282285 206.107.225.120 (Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:38:05 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:38:05 EDT Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:38:02 -0800 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35286 CubX will actually work for a while before my turbo slab bleeds enough memory to result nasty behavior.... I do this for mild diversion or to incite my colleague who cannot understand how Communicator 4.5 can run on an 040. Little do they know that the app is actually running on an Indigo 2 nestled in the data center. regards, patrick Operator wrote: > Does anybody know where you can get a compiled binary of Netscape for a > NeXTstation running Nextstep 3.3? > > -john > > root@ejv108.rh.psu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <78ian1$phl$174@hfc.hk.super.net> Control: cancel <78ian1$phl$174@hfc.hk.super.net> Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:52:21 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: Mr Leung Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!howland.erols.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!outfeed1.news.cais.net!news2.hkt.net!nntp.hk.super.net!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: Sale ERICSSON 768,90%NEW $680 X-Original-Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:47:13 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: usr5a-25.hk.super.net X-Original-From: Mr Leung X-CosmoTraq: #PYSU$=02[CP!N^2@RZX"_VI[`?P9'$V/0/%,V\I.LIW#C737+IS[Q0_ X-Cancel-ID: SD$Q;?$$II#&>?^6H+//7OYQ89TA--;`]JDOQM#C_XXNH9'-460&\";9 X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5793008 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: using a NextStation as a fax server Date: 25 Jan 1999 14:29:30 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 22 Message-ID: <78ir8a$5md@slip.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.soft-sys.nextstep:3621 comp.sys.next.misc:29232 comp.sys.next.programmer:30299 comp.sys.next.software:35287 You can do this with OlafAM. I have a hybrid of this set up, using PStill, on my white NeXT where people can fax my home telephone number and anyone can get that fax in pdf format from off the internet. I use OlafAM to take faxes. My OlafAM script executes a script which converts the fax-tiff fax input to postscript. Then it calls PStill to converts the postscript to pdf. ... Ah, said another way, the newest release of OlaAM comes with fax2ps which runs from the UNIX command line. The quality of output doesn't approach a normal printout since OlafAM only creates faxes at 72bpi. Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.eurocyber.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: calatayj@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re-installing NextStep 3.3 on NextStation Color Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:41:21 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 16 Message-ID: <78l99e$dhb$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.145.252.33 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Jan 26 20:41:21 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x8.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 206.145.252.33 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35288 I am trying to re-install NextStep 3.3 on my ColorStation. NeXTstation Color 16 Megs RAM 500M Hard Drive 12x Plextor CDROM I inserted the CD in the cdrom and the floppy disk in the drive. Also changed to boot from fd instead of sd. Then rebooted the workstation. It begins to boot fine from the floppy then the CD spins seems to be loading fine but it stops at Loading filesystem... What am I doing wrong? -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!howland.erols.net!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.225!attworldnet!newsadm From: pokey Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for an IRC application called CIRCE.app Date: 26 Jan 1999 22:02:34 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <36AE3C22.2195A699@hotmail.com> References: <78eu3m$8aq$2@news.imaginet.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.79.27.80 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35289 ftp.this.net /pub/Circe as of today its still up there latitude@imaginet.fr wrote: > I am looking for an IRC application called CIRCE.app if someone still has it > please let me know. Thank you #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!nntp.abs.net!newsfeed.fast.net!news.pgh.net!not-for-mail From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sendmail - how do you know for sure if it is running Date: 27 Jan 1999 01:52:19 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <78lrgj$f5q$1@dropit.pgh.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: venetia.pgh.pa.us X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35290 Sendmail is started by rc and seems to become a "", or something like that, when you run "ps aux." I have had a problem with mail queing up and not getting sent, which suggests sendmail may have died. However, I can't figure out how to check. All I can do is to reboot. This seems to solve the problem, but I would like to try something less drastic. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 724-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!news.tele2.nl!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.ne.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: sendmail X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 6 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:23:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.248.5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.ne.home.com 917450594 24.3.248.5 (Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:23:14 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:23:14 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35291 I have a single user box at home, so it really doesn't make sense for me to run a system mail delivery service, a pop client suits my needs. But, I was wondering, since sendmail is easy to exploit, has anyone ported smail to NS/OS? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!news.tele2.nl!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!not-for-mail From: Ryan Scott Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sendmail - how do you know for sure if it is running Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:38:51 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 34 Message-ID: <78nfer$e54$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <78lrgj$f5q$1@dropit.pgh.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: vader.engr.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Cc: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35292 In <78lrgj$f5q$1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote: > Sendmail is started by rc and seems to become a "", or > something like that, when you run "ps aux." I have had a problem > with mail queing up and not getting sent, which suggests sendmail may > have died. However, I can't figure out how to check. All I can do > is to reboot. This seems to solve the problem, but I would like to > try something less drastic. > ----- > Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 724-941-6883 > me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] > > There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well > please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take > the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke > One way to check sendmail operation is to send an email from the command line using mail with the verbose flag. ie, mail -v someone@domain.com . This will give you most of the important info about what sendmail is doing. -- ________________________________________________ Ryan P. Scott Laser and Electro-Optics Research Group UC Davis - Department of Applied Science Tel: (530)754-4358 Fax: (530)752-1652 Email: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu ________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news.ndh.net!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.pop.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: 27 Jan 1999 20:07:57 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 21 Message-ID: <78nrmt$l3f$1@news.spacelab.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35293 satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) wrote: >I have a single user box at home, so it really doesn't make sense for me >to run a system mail delivery service, a pop client suits my needs. >But, I was wondering, since sendmail is easy to exploit, has anyone >ported smail to NS/OS? Sendmail 5.6 (as in what OPENSTEP shipped with) was easy to exploit. The 8.8.x and 8.9.x versions of sendmail seem to be doing much better in terms of not having a new security hole every month. Also, I have to say that the DontBlameSendmail option is somewhat convincing a lot of the security problems people've blamed sendmail for were more a result of them not properly configuring filesystem permissions. Anyway, I'd imagine smail or qmail would be trivial to port.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!newsfeed01.btx.dtag.de!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sendmail - how do you know for sure if it is running Date: 27 Jan 1999 20:12:41 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 23 Message-ID: <78nrvp$l3f$2@news.spacelab.net> References: <78lrgj$f5q$1@dropit.pgh.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35294 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote: >Sendmail is started by rc and seems to become a "", or >something like that, when you run "ps aux." I have had a problem >with mail queing up and not getting sent, which suggests sendmail may >have died. However, I can't figure out how to check. All I can do >is to reboot. This seems to solve the problem, but I would like to A refers to a kernel thread, apparently, as is suggested by comparing the ps output: root -1 0.0 5.4 25.0M 4.36M ? S < 0:00 root 0 0.0 5.4 25.0M 4.36M ? R N 89hr (kernel idle) You can always tell whether sendmail is running by "telnet localhost 25" and seeing whether you get the sendmail greeting, or try sending a test message via "/usr/ucb/mail -v _userid_". You can also force the mail queue to be processed via "/usr/lib/sendmail -v -q". -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news3.cac.psu.edu!usenet From: root@ejv108.rh.psu.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xwindows, Xnext, MouseX Date: 27 Jan 1999 20:13:26 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 19 Message-ID: <78ns16$sri@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Reply-To: root@ejv108.rh.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ejv108.rh.psu.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35295 I have been trying to setup an X windows server, Ive D/L'ed Xnext from peanuts, installed all of the packages....and it did not work. I get all kinds of errors, "couldnt find xinit" even though its there. When using MouseX I got: failed to set default font path '/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/10 0dpi/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/' Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' [Process exited - exit code 1] If anyone has experience with setting up x windows server on nextstep 3.3, email me. thanks. john root@ejv108.rh.psu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!blackbush.xlink.net!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server5.netnews.ja.net!news.york.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: 27 Jan 1999 22:34:44 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Lines: 12 Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <78o4a4$fsr$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nicecuppa.ohm.york.ac.uk X-Trace: pump1.york.ac.uk 917476484 16283 144.32.136.151 (27 Jan 1999 22:34:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@york.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Jan 1999 22:34:44 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35296 satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) writes: > I have a single user box at home, so it really doesn't make sense for me to > run a system mail delivery service, a pop client suits my needs. But, I was > wondering, since sendmail is easy to exploit, has anyone ported smail to > NS/OS? I used to run smail on our machine here - not entirely reliable, and not *that* easy to compile. We did run it for about 3 years though, never was quite right. In the end I switched to sendmail 8.8.8 which is lovely and a hell of a lot faster than smail as well. -bat. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!newsfeed01.btx.dtag.de!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!news-rly-1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-east1.sprintlink.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!-program!feeder.qis.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Lines: 36 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 02:25:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.188 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 917490348 209.212.132.188 (Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:25:48 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:25:48 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35297 In Michael Lankton wrote: > I have a single user box at home, so it really doesn't make sense for me to > run a system mail delivery service, a pop client suits my needs. But, I was > wondering, since sendmail is easy to exploit, has anyone ported smail to > NS/OS? 1) The idea that sendmail is a security hole is an outdated one 2) A recent sendmail would work just fine 3) If you are not going to receive mail on your machine, you do not need to run sendmail as a daemon, just run it to flush the mailq. Edit the /etc/rc script line: /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q1h 2>/dev/console && \ to just /usr/lib/sendmail -q1h 2>/dev/console && \ and it will process the mailq every hour but will NOT accept connections on port 25, so no security issues (Note: in a perfect world even that would not be necessary. Sendmail is launched whenever you Send an email, but sometimes it cannot deliver due to destination hosts not answering, etc... that is when queue flushing becomes important). Much simpler than porting a new software TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!isdnet!netnews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sendmail - how do you know for sure if it is running X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <78lrgj$f5q$1@dropit.pgh.net> Lines: 61 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 02:34:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.188 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 917490859 209.212.132.188 (Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:34:19 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:34:19 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35298 In <78lrgj$f5q$1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote: > Sendmail is started by rc and seems to become a "", or > something like that, when you run "ps aux." I have had a problem > with mail queing up and not getting sent, which suggests sendmail may > have died. However, I can't figure out how to check. All I can do > is to reboot. This seems to solve the problem, but I would like to > try something less drastic. Couple ways: telnet localhost 25 /bin/ps -auxwww|fgrep sendmail|fgrep -v fgrep If sendmail has died rebooting is not necessary, just do this (as root) /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q1h 2>/dev/console You could make a cron job to check for sendmail's existence: #!/bin/sh /bin/ps -auxwww|fgrep sendmail|fgrep -v fgrep EXIT="$?" if [ "$EXIT" = "0" ]; then # remove the "#" on the echo line # if you don't want to know when sendmail # IS running echo "Sendmail is running at `date`" # >/dev/null elif [ "$EXIT" = "1" ]; then echo "Sendmail is NOT running at `date`" >/dev/console /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q1h 2>/dev/console && \ echo "Launched sendmail at `date`" >/dev/console else echo "Unable to determine sendmail status at `date`" >/dev/console exit 1 fi exit 0 # end of script TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!distler From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:44:49 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-125-4.ots.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 X-Face: #m:M:[ZK_2%p0fVui~CU:PB(Lv<2h/^?'zdcs29!62@#^Fm:<)M w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK? X-Image-URL: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/x-image.jpg Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35299 In article , satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) wrote: >In TjL wrote:- >> 1) The idea that sendmail is a security hole is an outdated one- > >Sendmail is the easiest way I can think of to get on someone else's box, give >me your ip and I'll show you :) I disagree with Tim in one respect: any complicated (and sendmail is very complicated) piece of code may very well contain security flaws. That said, there are no *known* remote (or even local) root holes in Sendmail 8.9.x. If you know of one, my IP is 128.83.114.63. Have fun. If you don't, then stop boasting and spreading needless FUD. JD -- PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!feeder.qis.net!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.ne.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Lines: 17 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:56:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.248.5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.ne.home.com 917499407 24.3.248.5 (Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:56:47 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:56:47 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35300 In Jacques Distler wrote:- > That said, there are no *known* remote (or even local) root holes in > Sendmail 8.9.x. Check the security announce list of any major linux distro and see how many times sendmail is named as a potential security problem in the last 18 months. Not every box out there is running the latest version of their os, not to mention the latest sendmail. Two friends of mine have had their systems compromised within the last 9 months, and the person who rooted them got on their boxes using sendmail in both instances. > If you know of one, my IP is 128.83.114.63. Have fun. > > If you don't, then stop boasting and spreading needless FUD.- Blow me #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!netnews.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Lines: 57 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:18:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.231 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 917507923 209.212.132.231 (Thu, 28 Jan 1999 02:18:43 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 02:18:43 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35301 In Michael Lankton wrote: > In Jacques Distler wrote:- > > That said, there are no *known* remote (or even local) root holes in > > Sendmail 8.9.x. > > Check the security announce list of any major linux distro and see how many > times sendmail is named as a potential security problem in the last 18 > months. Not every box out there is running the latest version of their os, > not to mention the latest sendmail. Two friends of mine have had their > systems compromised within the last 9 months, and the person who rooted them > got on their boxes using sendmail in both instances. What versions of sendmail were they using? I haven't heard of a root compromise for sendmail in a long time. Could you post a couple of these? I'd like to see what you are referring to. We have specifically been mentioning the 8.8.x or 8.9 distributions. 8.8.5 has been out for over 2 years now. If THEY are using old versions of sendmail, then THEY are the ones to blame, not sendmail. > > If you know of one, my IP is 128.83.114.63. Have fun. > > > > If you don't, then stop boasting and spreading needless FUD.- > > Blow me It's called "put up or shut up" You issued the challenge. He called you on it. You said "Sendmail is the easiest way I can think of to get on someone else's box, give me your ip and I'll show you :)" So either sendmail is as easy to root as you make it sound, or you're full of what makes the roses grow. My guess is on the latter. Shall we say a week? Get onto Jacques' machine and email me or him the output of 'nidump -r / /' In case you're not sure how to do that: nidump -r / / | Mail -s "I rooted Jacques' machine" distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu I've got a dynamic IP or I'd give you mine as well. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.maz.net!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!distler From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:25:41 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-117-20.ots.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 X-Face: #m:M:[ZK_2%p0fVui~CU:PB(Lv<2h/^?'zdcs29!62@#^Fm:<)M w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK? X-Image-URL: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/x-image.jpg Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35302 In article , satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) wrote: >In Jacques Distler wrote:- >> That said, there are no *known* remote (or even local) root holes in >> Sendmail 8.9.x. > >Check the security announce list of any major linux distro and see how many >times sendmail is named as a potential security problem in the last 18 >months. As it happens, I do keep pretty good track of such things. In fact, unlike you, I actually *read* the advisories. The last version of Sendmail with a (known) remote root vulnerability was 8.8.4. Version 8.8.5 was released on Jan 21, 1997 (ie, 2 years, not 18 months ago). Now, it's true that more recent versions have not been completely free of problems. Sendmail 8.9.1 was, under some circumstances, vulnerable to a remote denial-of-service attack. But then, just about any MTA (including Qmail and PostFix) is vulnerable to denial-of-service attacks under some circumstance or other. >Not every box out there is running the latest version of their os, >not to mention the latest sendmail. The post you were replying to was suggesting that the person install the *latest* sendmail to replace a crufty old version. >Two friends of mine have had their >systems compromised within the last 9 months, and the person who rooted them >got on their boxes using sendmail in both instances. If your friends were still running Sendmail 8.8.4 nine months ago, then they were *stupid*. If you are going to run a machine connected to the internet, then must either a) pay a modest attention to security matters, and update you software when security holes are found, or b) expect your machine to be broken into. >> If you know of one, my IP is 128.83.114.63. Have fun. >> >> If you don't, then stop boasting and spreading needless FUD.- > >Blow me Tell me your IP address. I'll see what I can do. JD -- PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.ne.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Lines: 6 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 02:38:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.248.5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.ne.home.com 917491124 24.3.248.5 (Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:38:44 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:38:44 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35303 In TjL wrote:- > 1) The idea that sendmail is a security hole is an outdated one- Sendmail is the easiest way I can think of to get on someone else's box, give me your ip and I'll show you :) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!howland.erols.net!erols.nntp.gte.net.MISMATCH!worldfeed.news.gte.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!nntp.earthlink.net!posted-from-earthlink!not-for-mail From: cdbgraf@earthlink.net (christopher borden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Selective Archive-Restore? Date: 28 Jan 1999 07:53:38 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ELN-Date: 28 Jan 1999 07:53:38 GMT X-ELN-Insert-Date: Wed Jan 27 23:55:05 1999 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Lines: 22 Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: cdbgraf@earthlink.net (christopher borden) NNTP-Posting-Host: ip127.an3-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net Message-ID: <78p522$r1k$2@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32770 comp.sys.next.software:35304 comp.sys.next.programmer:30315 comp.sys.next.misc:29237 guys and gals of the knowing kind -- i made the mistake of backing up 1gb of stuff onto a multi-volume archive, i.e. 5 zips containing ".chunk" files. backup done from ns 3.3. now running os 4.2. the mistake was not realizing i'd need three times the free disk space of the uncompressed original in order to restore it, i.e. 3gbs. or so it seems from the model of another smaller backup i did have sufficient disk space to recover. as a workaround, how can i selectively restore from my archive? i don't need the whole thing anyway, just certain essentials. alternatively, anyone out there in nyc with enough disk space to help me out? thanks for any suggestions, chris borden #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!howland.erols.net!nntp.abs.net!feeder.qis.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Lines: 52 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:05:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.169 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 917543137 209.212.132.169 (Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:05:37 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:05:37 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35305 In Jacques Distler wrote: > The last version of Sendmail with a (known) remote root vulnerability was 8.8.4. > Version 8.8.5 was released on Jan 21, 1997 (ie, 2 years, not 18 months ago). > The post you were replying to was suggesting that the person install the > *latest* sendmail to replace a crufty old version. > If your friends were still running Sendmail 8.8.4 nine months ago, then > they were *stupid*. The above is quoted merely to repeat the salient points of the discussion > >> If you know of one, my IP is 128.83.114.63. Have fun. > >> > >> If you don't, then stop boasting and spreading needless FUD.- > > > >Blow me > > Tell me your IP address. I'll see what I can do. He's on @Home so he has a static IP which is shown inthe NNTP posting host line (right above the X-Complaints-To: line) NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.248.5 # host 24.3.248.5 Name: cx119396-a.blvue1.ne.home.com Address: 24.3.248.5 # telnet 24.3.248.5 25 Trying 24.3.248.5... Connected to 24.3.248.5. Escape character is '^]'. 220 hell.home.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.7/UW7.0.1 ready at Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:59:19 -0600 (CST) ^]q Anyone want to take bets on who roots who first? TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### From: Jacques Distler Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: 28 Jan 1999 20:18:17 GMT Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 68 Message-ID: <78qgm9$7k0$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: golem.ph.utexas.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(h) Cc: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.vossnet.de!news.planetc.com!uunet!ffx.uu.net!in5.uu.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35306 In TjL wrote: >>>> If you know of one, my IP is 128.83.114.63. Have fun. >>>> >>>> If you don't, then stop boasting and spreading needless FUD.- >>> >>>Blow me >> >>Tell me your IP address. I'll see what I can do. > > [snip] > >Anyone want to take bets on who roots who first? Sorry to disappoint you. But I don't have any intention (and never did) of breaking into Mr Lankton's machine. In my lexicon, "blow me" != "break into my machine" Perhaps the phrase means something different to KooL HackR Doodz like Mr Lankton. However, he is still welcome to make good on his boast that he can break into mine using his extensive knowledge of Sendmail root holes. >He's on @Home so he has a static IP which is shown inthe NNTP posting host >line (right above the X-Complaints-To: line) > >NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.248.5 Indeed, his IP, your IP, and mine have been visible from the very start of this thread. Which is why my "Tell me your IP" was intended as *sarcasm*. I guess, Mr. HackR Dood either a) doesn't know that he's been broadcasting his IP all this time (and that he didn't need to ask you for yours) or b) can't recognize sarcasm when he sees it or c) all of the above ># telnet 24.3.248.5 25 >Trying 24.3.248.5... Connected to 24.3.248.5. >Escape character is '^]'. >220 hell.home.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.7/UW7.0.1 ready at Thu, 28 Jan 1999 >10:59:19 -0600 (CST) >^]q Instead of boasting about stuff that he clearly knows nothing about, Mr Lankton should probably secure his Sendmail against 3rd-party mail relaying (say, by upgrading to 8.9.x), or follow your suggestion and not run it in daemon mode. When he's done doing that, perhaps he should visit http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/progs/index.html and fix the other security holes in his NeXTStep installation. (By the way, that page has gotten a little out of date, for lack of time on my part. I'll get around to updating it someday. . .) JD -- PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.lightlink.com!news.graphics.cornell.edu!news From: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: 28 Jan 1999 15:50:04 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics Lines: 47 Sender: westin@DIESEL Message-ID: References: <78qgm9$7k0$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: diesel.graphics.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35307 Jacques Distler writes: > In TjL wrote: > > >>>> If you know of one, my IP is 128.83.114.63. Have fun. > >>>> > >>>> If you don't, then stop boasting and spreading needless FUD.- > >>> > >>>Blow me > >> > >>Tell me your IP address. I'll see what I can do. > > > > [snip] > > > >Anyone want to take bets on who roots who first? > > Sorry to disappoint you. But I don't have any intention (and never did) of > breaking into Mr Lankton's machine. Then you didn't post the text, "Tell me your IP address. I'll see what I can do?" > Which is why my "Tell me your IP" was intended as *sarcasm*. That is to say, you had no intention of proving your assertion. You just feel like bashing "sendmail". And your threat to break his system was just a joke. > Instead of boasting about stuff that he clearly knows nothing about, Mr > Lankton should probably secure his Sendmail against 3rd-party mail relaying > (say, by upgrading to 8.9.x), or follow your suggestion and not run it in > daemon mode. Which is to say, recent versions of sendmail are more secure. Perhaps it's not necessary to discard it altogether. Which was the point of discussion... -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: Jacques Distler Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:44:12 GMT Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 24 Message-ID: <78qp7s$7k0$3@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <78qgm9$7k0$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: golem.ph.utexas.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(h) Cc: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35308 In Stephen H. Westin wrote: >> Which is why my "Tell me your IP" was intended as *sarcasm*. > >That is to say, you had no intention of proving your assertion. What assertion? Mr Lankton was the one who asserted that he could make root on Mr Luoma's box by exploiting Sendmail. >You >just feel like bashing "sendmail". Mr Lankton was the one bashing Sendmail, not me. >And your threat to break his system >was just a joke. I *did not* threaten to break into his system. *HE* threatened Tim's system. Please try reading the thread before you jump in half-cocked. JD -- PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.ne.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <36B10821.4033@hell.home.com> From: Michael Lankton X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-NSCP (X11; I; UnixWare 5 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail References: <78qgm9$7k0$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <78qp7s$7k0$3@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 36 Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:01:51 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.248.5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.ne.home.com 917571711 24.3.248.5 (Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:01:51 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:01:51 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35309 Jacques Distler wrote: > > In Stephen H. Westin wrote: > What assertion? Mr Lankton was the one who asserted that he could make root > on Mr Luoma's box by exploiting Sendmail. Note that in my original reply I said exactly: "Sendmail is the easiest way I can think of to get on someone else's box, give me your ip and I'll show you :)" Since ascii doesn't communicate tone of voice and facial expression, you'll note that I added a smiley face so it would be clear that I was kidding. While I am interested in a variety of unices and their administration, I have never been a big security freak or been interested in compromising the security of remote systems. I couldn't hack you even if your box was insecure because I have never had an interest in learning about such things, doing productive work on a unix system has always held much more interest for me. I am guilty of losing my patience with Jacques and telling him to blow me, which only shows that I am unable to ignore criticisms and unable to keep myself from responding in a negative manner. So if you all think I'm an asshole, I don't really care because I've known for years that I'm an asshole, but my actions only reflect upon myself (that doesn't give me a license to act irresponsibly mind you), I am not representing any institution or business. On the other hand I was threatened by Jacques, an associate professor at the University of Texas. His fault was that he let me get under his skin, and he responded with a threat. I insulted him, he responded with a threat, big difference in my book, which is why I wrote a letter to the University of Texas today to complain about the actions of Mr. Distler, who, when he chooses to correspond on usenet using his University account, should be held liable as a representative of that institution, and conduct himself accordingly. Kill this thread already, this forum doesn't need a war of egos. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.114.4.11!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.ne.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Lines: 40 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 05:34:31 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.248.5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.ne.home.com 917588071 24.3.248.5 (Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:34:31 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:34:31 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35310 Unless you have a shell on my box, you don't need to be telnetting to me, much less posting information about my system in a public forum. Last time I checked I had a right to voice my opinion, and even make the odd hasty remark. Perhaps that makes me a jerk, but what you are doing here is intolerable. You are pathetic. I thought this sort of bullying was limited to school grounds and children, but you and Jacques seem to have a real taste for it. Looking back on this thread I would say that you guys end up looking like bigger assholes than I do, congratulations, that's quite a feat. In TjL wrote: > He's on @Home so he has a static IP which is shown inthe NNTP posting host > line (right above the X-Complaints-To: line) > > NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.248.5 > > # host 24.3.248.5 > Name: cx119396-a.blvue1.ne.home.com > Address: 24.3.248.5 > > # telnet 24.3.248.5 25 > Trying 24.3.248.5... Connected to 24.3.248.5. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 hell.home.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.7/UW7.0.1 ready at Thu, 28 Jan 1999 > 10:59:19 -0600 (CST) > ^]q > > > Anyone want to take bets on who roots who first? > > TjL > > -- > "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that > was possible. Then it dawned on me..... > AOL is sending out CDs now." - me > (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Perl DBI to Oracle on NS 3.3 Date: 28 Jan 1999 21:58:04 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 13 Message-ID: <78rilc$nk9@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35311 Hi, Is it possible to connect to an Oracle database from the Perl DBI module? I wonder if you have to have SQL*Net on your machine to connect (and I'd be amazed if that was available for Intel NeXT). Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!distler From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:15:48 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 82 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-45-94.ots.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 X-Face: #m:M:[ZK_2%p0fVui~CU:PB(Lv<2h/^?'zdcs29!62@#^Fm:<)M w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK? X-Image-URL: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/x-image.jpg Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35312 In article , satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) wrote: >Unless you have a shell on my box, you don't need to be telnetting to me, >much less posting information about my system in a public forum. Last time I >checked I had a right to voice my opinion, and even make the odd hasty >remark. Perhaps that makes me a jerk, but what you are doing here is >intolerable. You are pathetic. I thought this sort of bullying was limited >to school grounds and children, but you and Jacques seem to have a real taste >for it. Looking back on this thread I would say that you guys end up looking >like bigger assholes than I do, congratulations, that's quite a feat. I swore that I would not reply to any more of your crazy-eyed posts, but this is *pathetic*. Just how much of a persecution complex do you have? Let me walk you through what Tim posted. >In TjL wrote: >> He's on @Home so he has a static IP which is shown inthe NNTP posting host >> line (right above the X-Complaints-To: line) >> >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.248.5 This came straight out of the headers of your *own* post. Every single time you post to Usenet, you are announcing your IP address for all the world to see. If you don't want your IP address known to the world, don't post to Usenet. >> # host 24.3.248.5 >> Name: cx119396-a.blvue1.ne.home.com >> Address: 24.3.248.5 Try typing "nslookup 128.83.114.63". This isn't even information *about* your system. This is the CNAME record for your IP, as recorded in @HOME's DNS servers. Are seriously saying that you don't want anyone to do a reverse-DNS lookup on your IP address? Then don't visit any web sites, or send email, or . . . >> # telnet 24.3.248.5 25 >> Trying 24.3.248.5... Connected to 24.3.248.5. >> Escape character is '^]'. >> 220 hell.home.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.7/UW7.0.1 ready at Thu, 28 Jan 1999 >> 10:59:19 -0600 (CST) >> ^]q Here is where things get *really* pathetic. You said, Unless you have a shell on my box, you don't need to be telnetting to me For your information, Port 25 is your SMTP port. That's where other machines connect to yours to send you email. Are you *seriously* suggesting that you don't want email from people who don't have an account on your machine? Note that Tim didn't type any commands; he disconnected immediately. He didn't even say HELO, let alone (gasp!) try to send you some email. Perhaps you don't want *anyone* connecting to your SMTP port *for any reason*. In that case, do as Tim suggested, and don't run Sendmail in daemon mode. Or maybe it is the fact that he discovered what version of sendmail you are running that bothers you. Then don't run Sendmail at all, as the version of Sendmail is recorded in the headers of every piece of outgoing mail (along with -- gasp! -- your IP). If this is how you are going to react, I really think you would sleep better at night if you just disconnected your machine from the 'net. No one will ever succeed in opening a TCP connection to it then. JD -- PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!surfnet.nl!surfnet.nl!rug.nl!not-for-mail From: Marcel Volkerts Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Whatever Happened To ...? Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:32:20 +0000 Organization: KVI Lines: 36 Message-ID: <36AC5644.31639F35@kvi.nl> References: <36aa43a0.693507@news.alt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kvip05.kvi.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D94E4699E12231DE6F151A95" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35313 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D94E4699E12231DE6F151A95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit stiv wrote: > Newsflash 4. And that other newsreader that acted like an Agent clone? > (can't remember its name). Or offline capabilities for Radical News? Good question! Who knows? Marcel --------------D94E4699E12231DE6F151A95 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="volkerts.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Marcel Volkerts Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="volkerts.vcf" begin:vcard n:Volkerts;Marcel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:KVI;Experimental Nuclear Physics adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:volkerts@kvi.nl note;quoted-printable:Phone +31 50 3632054=0D=0AFax +31 50 3634003 x-mozilla-cpt:;-18016 fn:Marcel Volkerts end:vcard --------------D94E4699E12231DE6F151A95-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!chico.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.lightlink.com!news.graphics.cornell.edu!news From: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: 28 Jan 1999 18:08:16 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics Lines: 10 Sender: westin@DIESEL Message-ID: References: <78qgm9$7k0$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <78qp7s$7k0$3@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: diesel.graphics.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35314 Jacques Distler writes: > Mr Lankton was the one bashing Sendmail, not me. Yup, got it wrong by trying to pick the players by context. -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,de.comm.software.crosspoint,de.comm.software.forte-agent,de.comm.software.mailreader.misc,de.comm.software.mailreader.pegasus,de.comm Subject: cmsg cancel <78ru6o$1k8$1@lola.ctv.es> Control: cancel <78ru6o$1k8$1@lola.ctv.es> Date: 29 Jan 1999 09:30:46 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: "Rhea" Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.mad.ttd.net!newsfeed.bcn.ttd.net!lola!lola.ctv.es!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: Free download software X-Original-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:58:12 +0100 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ctv21225139097.ctv.es X-Original-From: "Rhea" X-Original-X-Trace: lola.ctv.es 917601304 1672 212.25.139.97 (29 Jan 1999 09:15:04 GMT) X-CosmoTraq: .8*;:$]DKTS**BMA5'@.7-/>##Y^EE'V%6Z`:%]`)I\1!`CG&.XYNAX) X-Cancel-ID: 4H`J7NK]EXD%_0'\RMTU8(*P6HX:+<>Y-2TQ+/H-99"RX(J^2EWWZ65= X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 13 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5828061 My From: line has been fudged because many test newsgroup autoresponders respond to control messages. My apologies! Please see the X-Cancelled-By: line for my proper address. Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### From: "Damien Guard" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: <78euc2$8aq$3@news.imaginet.fr> Subject: Re: Does anyone know if it‚s possible to adapt ICQ for nextstep 3.3 ? Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:29:30 -0000 Lines: 13 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.226.133.3 Message-ID: <36b1a936.0@news.guernsey.net> X-Trace: 29 Jan 1999 12:27:34 GMT, 195.226.133.3 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!nntp.abs.net!news.itconsult.net!news.guernsey.net!195.226.133.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35315 >I would like to use ICQ on NS 3.3; does anyone know how to make it possible? There is a page somewhere where they decoded the ICQ protocols. There is also an ICQ client for BeOS with source-code so if you can program you could write one yourself. [)amien #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server5.netnews.ja.net!news.york.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:35:25 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Lines: 17 Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <78s9ud$nl2$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> References: <36B10821.4033@hell.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nicecuppa.ohm.york.ac.uk X-Trace: pump1.york.ac.uk 917613325 24226 144.32.136.151 (29 Jan 1999 12:35:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@york.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:35:25 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35316 Michael Lankton writes: > Note that in my original reply I said exactly: > > "Sendmail is the easiest way I can think of to get on someone else's > box, give me your ip and I'll show you :)" > > Since ascii doesn't communicate tone of voice and facial expression, > you'll note that I added a smiley face so it would be clear that I was > kidding. While I am interested in a variety of unices and their So you *dont* think sendmail is an easy way to get onto someones system then ? So why are you moaning about it ? Modern versions are not security hazards so whats the problem... sigh, -bat. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server5.netnews.ja.net!news.york.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:45:04 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Lines: 24 Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <78sagg$plp$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> References: <36B10821.4033@hell.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nicecuppa.ohm.york.ac.uk X-Trace: pump1.york.ac.uk 917613904 26297 144.32.136.151 (29 Jan 1999 12:45:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@york.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:45:04 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35317 Michael Lankton writes: > On the other hand I was threatened by Jacques, an associate professor at I just went back through the therad. I can't find this article. > skin, and he responded with a threat. I insulted him, he responded with > a threat, big difference in my book, which is why I wrote a letter to What, he actually said he'd come round and slap you or something ? So you wnet and whined to his employer ? Oh, grow up ! Your last paragraph is pompus in the extreme - you staretd this, you huerously offered to break into someones machine, you then claim it was just a joke and admit ypou didn't have a clue as to what you were talking about and then, having irritated everyone, you go running to a grown-up for help. That link to the page on security issues with nextStep is one of the most useful things actually on this thread regarding the sceurity of NextStep (which is what this started out as being about) so instead of whining maybe you should think about thanking the bloke for actually posting some useful information here (which is more than anyone else, including me, has done) -bat. [who expects this elsewhere on usenet, but is saddened to find people acting like it in c.s.n.* as this is usually one of the better parts of the net] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: arobot@cmg.fcnbd.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need salary/hourly rate datapoints for OpenStep development Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:44:01 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 20 Message-ID: <78soge$om2$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 147.113.146.220 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Jan 29 16:44:01 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.1.5 OWF/1.0 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x3.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 147.113.146.220 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:118292 comp.sys.next.programmer:30324 comp.sys.next.software:35318 Hi- I'm thinking of making a move to OpenStep development as an independent consultant, and would like to compile some data points concerning typical hourly rates. Could anyone provide some input? Along similar lines, what should an established OpenStep developer typically expect for salary as a permanent employee (non consultant)- particularly in the context of enterprise products in the financial sector? Thanks in advance, Andre arobot@cmg.fcnbd.com -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.stanford.edu!nntp.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: rmj@leland.Stanford.EDU (Roger M. Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP 4.2 on a PC Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:52:42 -0800 Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Lines: 20 Distribution: all Message-ID: <78t72q$28l@elaine28.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: elaine28.stanford.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35319 I have purchased a Dell PC (450MHz, 9GB Hard Drive) which runs NT 4.0. I want to install OPENSTEP 4.2 for Mach. Are they likely to be any problems? To dual boot, NT and OPENSTEP, would it be better to get another drive? Or is it fine to install OPENSTEP on the same drive. Up to now I have been running NeXTStep 3.2 on black hardware. Can I get the original NeXT icons etc, when I install OPENSTEP 4.2 on my PC? Or will I have the Windows NT icons? Any help would be much appreciated Many thanks, -Roger Jones -- (rmj@leland.stanford.edu) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!netnews.com!ix.netcom.com!NewsWatcher!user From: threegs@ix.netcom.com (Gregg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pls Help: NS3.2 on NeXTstation Boot trouble. Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:37:33 -0500 Organization: Netcom Lines: 17 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: frd-md6-03.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Jan 29 4:39:27 PM CST 1999 X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35320 I put in some incorrect info when I was setting up the network information on my NeXTstation. In the NIS entry area I mis-entered the IP and now when my station boots it gets to "Starting YP services" and then just sits there. I have let it sit for 10 min with no change. I have tried to boot while connected to ethernet and while disconnected from ethernet with no change. All I have extra right now is a Motorola NS 3.2 Boot Floppy. Can anyone help me out? Just get me far enough to either bypass that part of the booting or tell me a way to get in and change that info. Thanks very much in advance! Reply to: threegs@ix.netcom.com -- Gregg #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!bignews.mediaways.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!-program!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!panix!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <78qgm9$7k0$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <78qp7s$7k0$3@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <36B10821.4033@hell.home.com> Lines: 46 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:13:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.60 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 917655180 209.212.132.60 (Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:13:00 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:13:00 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35321 In <36B10821.4033@hell.home.com> Michael Lankton wrote: > On the other hand I was threatened by Jacques, an associate professor at > the University of Texas. His fault was that he let me get under his > skin, and he responded with a threat. I insulted him, he responded with > a threat, big difference in my book, which is why I wrote a letter to > the University of Texas today to complain about the actions of Mr. > Distler, who, when he chooses to correspond on usenet using his > University account, should be held liable as a representative of that > institution, and conduct himself accordingly. > > Kill this thread already, this forum doesn't need a war of egos. Oh Michael I think you could probably notch down your ego a little. Michael was very busy today writing letters. My ISP got one as well, albeit full of the lengthy run-on sentences and poor grammar than tend to make people really pay attention. Fortunately they were able, as I assume U-of-T would be, to see that Mr Lankton has merely lost an argument, got himself into it deep, and been unable to extract himself, so he's trying to take on others. Meanwhile I happened to drop a note regarding Michael's servers (which are disallowed by the @Home AUP) to abuse@home.net. Feeling it was only fair after he had made his attempt to get me in trouble. I was able to site four AUP violations to them without even trying hard. Since I happen to know that @Home has been cracking down on servers (including sendmail) I do hope it will prove fruitful. In the meantime, I think ``Kill Author' in RadicalNews may be the best answer -- oh, and Michael, that's not an overt threat on your life or insinuation that I'm going to try and root your machine, so before you continue your flood of email to my ISP please re-read what I've said... it's a filter, not a life-threat. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsreader.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!feeder.qis.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Lines: 57 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:21:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.60 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 917655687 209.212.132.60 (Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:21:27 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:21:27 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35322 In Michael Lankton wrote: > Unless you have a shell on my box, you don't need to be telnetting to me, If I had a shell on your box, that would be another @Home AUP violation. Anyway, I connected to the public service port 25 where sendmail runs. You obviously know that it is running since you have configured it, so it is hard to complain that you don't want connections there. > much less posting information about my system in a public forum. You make it sound like I portscanned and OS-scanned your machine and posted the output. > Last time I checked I had a right to voice my opinion, and even make the > odd hasty remark. You stated as fact that sendmail would allow for remote root access, and that all you needed was an IP to prove the point (and don't try and give me that smiley face story). > Perhaps that makes me a jerk, but what you are doing here is intolerable. > You are pathetic. I thought this sort of bullying was limited to school > grounds and children, I see... but trying to get people who called you on the carpet for your lies into trouble, that's OK in your morality scheme? > Looking back on this thread I would say that you guys end up looking > like bigger assholes than I do Well I don't think what you would say will hold much water, but don't let me stop you. Michael, you said something stupid and have been trying to defend and explain it. (From another post, quoted here so I don't have to waste more inodes on this thread) > I couldn't hack you even if your box was insecure because I have never had > an interest in learning about such things Finally you admit that you couldn't do it, but "only cuz I don't wanna". You said you could, now you admit you couldn't, "but maybe I could if I put my mind to it". Wow. It finally occurred to me how incredibly stupid it was to even enter a discussion with you. My apologies to the other readers of the group. TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.pop.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.ne.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Lines: 22 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 01:17:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.248.5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.ne.home.com 917659041 24.3.248.5 (Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:17:21 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:17:21 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35323 Just so the rest of you know, I have been getting harassed by Luoma via private email for the last two days. I finally got sick of it and let him know that all further correspondence would be forwarded to his isp. So, apparently his last attempt to "get" me is to notify @home that I have been running httpd. As a result, my website will be going offline. tasteslikechicken.ml.org was a modest source of information regarding the Window Maker window manager for X11, and for NeXT. The web design was nothing to brag about, and there wasn't a whole lot in the way of material you'd want to go out of your way to find, but it was some stuff that I found interesting and had made available to others in case anyone else did too. Well, thanks to Mr. Luoma's bullying tactics, another NeXT resource has disappeared from the web, although it won't be missed by many, I did get 80-100 hits a day since it went online 6/29/98, so some people were benefitting from it's presence. I guess he showed me. ps. I don't run sendmail. I got UnixWare 7.0 last Saturday, and was still familiarizing myself with it. I didn't even realize I was running sendmail in SCO til you pointed it out. I don't run sendmail in any other os, now I don't in UnixWare either. #################################################################### From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Lines: 83 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 03:16:51 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.165 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 917666211 209.212.132.165 (Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:16:51 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:16:51 EDT Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.touch.net!news2.profi.net!pollution.skycache.com!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!feeder.qis.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35324 In Michael Lankton wrote: > Just so the rest of you know, I have been getting harassed by Luoma via > private email for the last two days. Just so you know, that's a lie. Mr Lankton emailed my ISP and myself last night. Because I was off having a life, I didn't read it until this morning. He emailed my ISP asking them to "do something" about me, and I have emailed my replies to my ISP and to Michael. Michael and I exchanged emails (one from him, one from me) until he decided to tell me that any further correspondence would go to my ISP. I see 4 messages from me, and 4 from him, being initiated by him. If Michael would like to explain how this is harassment, I would like to know. Then again, I'd like to know how this translates to 2 days. It would be especially interesting since I had no way of knowing his email address until he emailed me. Please, enough lies already Michael. (Note: datestamp on Michael's messages may be skewed because he is in PDT and I am in EST... so this may not be the exact order.) Also note that his email address has been changed because he has chosen not to make it known, so I did not include it here. TjL ps -- the headers follow, for anyone who may be interested. As soon as Michael ceases tellied lies or otherwise misleading people or attacking me, I'll be happy to let this thread end. From: Michael Lankton Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:07:06 +0000 To: abuse@fdt.net Cc: luomat@peak.org From: Timothy J. Luoma To: Michael Lankton Cc: abuse@fdt.net Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:49:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: your mail From: Michael Lankton Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:38:48 +0000 To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: your mail From: Michael Lankton Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:41:15 +0000 To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: your mail From: Timothy J. Luoma To: Michael Lankton Cc: abuse@fdt.net Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:20:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: your mail From: Timothy J. Luoma To: Michael Lankton Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:57:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: your mail From: Timothy J. Luoma To: Michael Lankton Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:05:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: your mail From: Michael Lankton Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:28:52 +0000 To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: your mail Cc: abuse@fdt.net #################################################################### From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:53:25 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-123-7.ots.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 X-Face: #m:M:[ZK_2%p0fVui~CU:PB(Lv<2h/^?'zdcs29!62@#^Fm:<)M w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK? X-Image-URL: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/x-image.jpg Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.vossnet.de!news.ecore.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.59.152.222!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!-program!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!distler Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35325 In article , satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton) wrote: >Well, thanks to Mr. Luoma's bullying tactics, another NeXT resource has >disappeared from the web, although it won't be missed by many, I did get >80-100 hits a day since it went online 6/29/98, so some people were >benefitting from it's presence. I think *everyone* in the NeXT community will agree that Timothy's contributions have been a thousand times more significant. We're all thankful that your attempts to get him booted from his ISP were unsuccessful. I guess I have learned my lesson from this from all of this. Having been around Usenet (and c.s.n.* in particular) for years, I should have knwon better, but it is good to be reminded, "Don't feed the trolls!" -- PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!newsfeed01.btx.dtag.de!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news.idiom.com!idiom.com!deniseh From: Denise Howard Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: 30 Jan 1999 06:34:33 GMT Organization: Remove capital letters to reply Lines: 11 Message-ID: <78u95p$o5l$1@news.idiom.com> References: Reply-To: denisehAT@idiomDOT.com NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980117 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/2.2.6-STABLE (i386)) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35326 Jacques Distler wrote: > I think *everyone* in the NeXT community will agree that Timothy's > contributions have been a thousand times more significant. > > We're all thankful that your attempts to get him booted from his ISP were > unsuccessful. Hear, hear! Tim has been an invaluable resource, and if he needs any character witnesses to speak to his ISP on his behalf, he can count on me. Denise #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!distler From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 02:02:21 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <78qgm9$7k0$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-117-17.ots.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 X-Face: #m:M:[ZK_2%p0fVui~CU:PB(Lv<2h/^?'zdcs29!62@#^Fm:<)M w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK? X-Image-URL: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/x-image.jpg Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35327 In article <78qgm9$7k0$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, Jacques Distler wrote: >When he's done doing that, perhaps he should visit > > http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/progs/index.html > >and fix the other security holes in his NeXTStep installation. > >(By the way, that page has gotten a little out of date, for lack of time on >my part. I'll get around to updating it someday. . .) As penance for having exposed the readers of this newsgroup to this toxic-waste-dump of a thread, I'd like to solicit additions or improvements to the above Web page on NeXTStep/OPENSTEP Security fixes. I don't know when I'll get around to it (the entry on Sendmail 8.9.x anti-spam measures has been "in preparation" for months now), but if y'all have any fixes, patches or suggestions that you think would be of value, please pass 'em along. Jacques -- PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!news1.optus.net.au!optus!news.uwa.edu.au!parma!rameri From: Rameri Salama Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X applications Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 02:02:17 +0800 Organization: The University of Western Australia Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: parma.cs.uwa.oz.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: rameri@parma X-URL: http://www.cs.uwa.edu.au/~rameri Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35328 Hi, I'm wondering if there is a repository of X applications compiled for XNext under OS4.2. I've checked ftp.peak.org in /pub/openstep/mach/X-for-OpenStep, and didn't find many applications except for xv (which is very good BTW). As an aside, Xnext is a great application, if you must run X. It was extremely easy to install! Thanks, Rameri --- "I want to be popular. `Net usage will make me a pocket-protector wearing, propeller-headed dork." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!isdnet!netnews.com!feeder.qis.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sendmail X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <78u95p$o5l$1@news.idiom.com> Lines: 24 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:43:24 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.202 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 917721804 209.212.132.202 (Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:43:24 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:43:24 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35329 In <78u95p$o5l$1@news.idiom.com> Denise Howard wrote: > Jacques Distler wrote: > > I think *everyone* in the NeXT community will agree that Timothy's > > contributions have been a thousand times more significant. > > > > We're all thankful that your attempts to get him booted from his ISP were > > unsuccessful. > > Hear, hear! Tim has been an invaluable resource, and if he needs any > character witnesses to speak to his ISP on his behalf, he can count on me. Thanks to both of you, as well as those who have emailed off Usenet. Suffice it to say that once I included the full message that Mr Lankton abridged in his complaint, my ISP knew exactly what was going on. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.89.75.15!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <13193917154022@digifix.com> Date: 31 Jan 1999 04:44:42 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 327 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <29381917758824@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:118340 comp.sys.next.announce:4893 comp.sys.next.hardware:35997 comp.sys.next.software:35330 comp.sys.next.misc:29243 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32791 comp.sys.next.bugs:5022 comp.sys.next.programmer:30325 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-hh.maz.net!desire.lavielle.com!news From: Valentino Kyriakides Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X applications Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:47:12 +0100 Organization: Lavielle Lines: 45 Message-ID: <36B604BF.A880FB01@lavielle.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.lavielle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35331 Rameri Salama wrote: > Hi, > > I'm wondering if there is a repository of X applications compiled for > XNext under OS4.2. I've checked ftp.peak.org in > /pub/openstep/mach/X-for-OpenStep, and didn't find many applications > except for xv (which is very good BTW). > Some years ago I ported Sun's XView distribution (don't confuse this with xv, XView is a public OpenLook distribution...) to NeXTstep with Cub'X Windows. Beside this I also ported some editors like xcoral, axe, vim etc., gdb frontends like xxgdb and mxgdb and a lot of other X11/Motif stuff to NeXTstep. However, some of these are still available and can be found on the german peanuts server, other X11 apps are keeping dust on my NeXTstation's harddisk. Well, I found that its mostly not worth the efforts to port X11 apps to NeXTstep (see my XView distribution), since most people don't use X under NeXTstep. So my last task (also some time ago) was a version of Carl Edman's Emacs_for_NeXTstep which also runs under X11. That version got really huge, but I wanted one Emacs version for both window systems and it works quite very well in both worlds and I still use today this version under NS. Greetings Valentino -- Valentino Kyriakides Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co. Tel.: +49(0)40 / 65 80 8 - 997 Lotharstrasse 2b, D-22041 Hamburg, Germany Fax.: +49(0)40 / 65 808-202 http://www.lavielle.com/ mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 4.2 on a PC Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 31 Jan 1999 23:36:54 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <792nqp$icr$1@eve.enteract.com> Message-ID: <19990131183654.01117.00002454@ng-ch1.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35332 >[>] Up to now I have been running NeXTStep 3.2 on black hardware. Can I get > >[>] the original NeXT icons etc, when I install OPENSTEP 4.2 on my PC? >[>] Or will I have the Windows NT icons? > >there is a 'black' icon package at peak. To clarify here--the icons which are replaced by the afore-mentioned black icon package are NeXT's white PC icons. You do not see the technicolor Windows icon in Mach--no need to fear on that account. The package is there because a lot of people using black hardware misliked the beige PC icons. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 01 Feb 1999 01:01:17 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: macrotrade@macrotrade.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.208.190.2!news.globix.net!news.idt.net!nntp.farm.idt.net!news X-Original-Subject: ADV: MS Office 97 Pro CD-ROM 29.95 X-Original-Date: 1 Feb 1999 00:56:39 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-14.ts-3.chi.idt.net X-Original-From: macrotrade@macrotrade.com X-CosmoTraq: %;1'[MOZ_U+(%/:P`R.ISK65()-C4(^%>3_1#,MGVS X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5848452 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X applications References: From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) NNTP-Posting-Host: wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Message-ID: <36b5735b.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: 1 Feb 99 09:26:51 GMT Lines: 30 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!newsfeed01.btx.dtag.de!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!news-rly-1.sprintlink.net!news-east1.sprintlink.net!-program!news-peer-europe.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.belnet.be!uni-erlangen.de!uni-wuerzburg.de!wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35333 Rameri Salama wrote: > >Hi, > >I'm wondering if there is a repository of X applications compiled for >XNext under OS4.2. I've checked ftp.peak.org in /pub/openstep/mach/X- >for-OpenStep, and didn't find many applications except for xv (which >is very good BTW). I ported the Commodore-emulator vice to NeXTstep with Xnext/CubX but have got no reports on OPENSTEP yet. It is not in a X-directory, but on ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/tools/emulators/ and on ftp://wmad62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de/pub/sdroll/NeXT/VICE/. For full gameing fun you should have a SPARC or intel-NeXT. On black it is good for Adventures and D&D games :-). Xboard (chess) compiled out of the box as did crafty and gnuchess on black and white NS3.3. greets Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-) #################################################################### MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: a good sound app References: <7906pv$nng@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) NNTP-Posting-Host: wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Message-ID: <36b571da.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: 1 Feb 99 09:20:26 GMT Lines: 23 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.vossnet.de!news.ecore.net!newsfeed.tli.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.belnet.be!uni-erlangen.de!uni-wuerzburg.de!wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35334 root@ejv108.rh.psu.edu (Operator) wrote: >Im am looking for a sound program that will allow me to record >multiple tracks, and then play all of them together, outputing into a >snd file. Does anyone know by name a program that does this for >NeXT. There are plenty on peanuts and peak, but there are no >descriptions of what the program does. AFAIR there is/was a program for black NeXTs called Mixer.app. There you could drop soundfiles (recorded elsewhere) in and adjust loudness, beginning (etc) and then mix all the sounds together. Good Quality, but somehow complicated ... greets Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Want MacOS X Server for Intel? Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:04:23 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 42 Message-ID: <7941nl$l4l$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 133.27.68.88 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Feb 01 11:04:23 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x15.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 133.27.68.88 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35335 Would you like to see MacOS X Server for intel? Since MacWorld, a large number of former NeXTstep and Openstep users have felt wronged by Apple's change of plans regarding the release of MacOS X Server CR1 for intel. If you are one of these people, or feel that you would use MacOS X Server for intel if it were available, please send email to leadership@apple.com and express these concerns. Please make the subject header of your email concise and relevant as we don't know how Apple actually uses this email. A short subject will be helpful if Apple does a quick attitude survey of the email. Use something like: "Release MacOS X Server for Intel" But please try to be optimistic and explain your needs to Apple in the body of your message. If this decision by Apple is causing you to leave the platform, tell them. If it bothers you that Apple has a working version of MacOS X Server for intel but they are refusing to release it, tell them also. And though it may be naive to think this matters, it doesn't hurt to tell them how long you have been a customer. Such information may make a difference to a conscientious employee at Apple. If you do choose to send email, please send a copy to me also, so I can collect the results, and they will be posted on Stepwise's website: http://www.stepwise.com/ On the Stepwise site, you will can also find results for Scott Anguish's letter request concerning "The High Cost of Mac OS X Server". Send your email to: leadership@apple.com and penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp Thank you, Christopher Penrose penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.csl-gmbh.net!newsfeed.pop.de!newsfeed01.btx.dtag.de!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!news-rly-1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-east1.sprintlink.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!-program!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.enteract.com!ix.netcom.com!NewsWatcher!user From: threegs@ix.netcom.com (Gregg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pls Help: NS3.2 on NeXTstation Boot trouble. Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:53:21 -0500 Organization: Netcom Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: frd-md2-25.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Feb 01 4:55:19 PM CST 1999 X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35336 In article , threegs@ix.netcom.com (Gregg) wrote: > I put in some incorrect info when I was setting up the network information > on my NeXTstation. In the NIS entry area I mis-entered the IP and now > when my station boots it gets to "Starting YP services" and then just sits > there. I have let it sit for 10 min with no change. I have tried to boot > while connected to ethernet and while disconnected from ethernet with no > change. Thanks VERY much to the folks that took the time to help me out with this situation. Things are now back to normal. Thanks again! -- Gregg #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.44.33.119!hub1.ispnews.com!news12.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BillLeeX@cleaf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Omniweb license expiration Reply-To: BillLeeX@cleaf.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 Message-ID: <56Kt2.99$oV.350@news12.ispnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.176.49.28 X-Trace: news12.ispnews.com 917990913 209.176.49.28 (Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:28:33 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:28:33 EDT Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:28:33 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35337 My license to Omniweb3.0b8 expired while I was gone over the weekend. I have browsed my own machine for a license string and can find none, I haven't seen anything in the c.s.n newsgroups, I browsed the Omnigroup ftp site and only found the b8 version from last October that I already have (and which is expired). What to do? -- Bill Lee (Take out the X to respond.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.186.110.126!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!news.minn.net!news.winternet.com!beginning-of-email From: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NXCommandKeys dwrites Date: 2 Feb 1999 02:38:06 GMT Organization: TJP Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <795oee$2so$2@blackice.winternet.com> Reply-To: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-67-51.dialup.winternet.com X-Trace: blackice.winternet.com 917923086 2968 204.246.67.51 (2 Feb 1999 02:38:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@winternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Feb 1999 02:38:06 GMT X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.96 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35338 I have recently discovered the joys of enabling all the keyboard shortcuts I ever wanted, but thought I couldn't have, with the "dwrite [app] NXCommandKeys" command. I am finding *documentation* on this command to be... er... nonexistent, however. Does anyone know: is it possible to map the arrow keys to a menu command in this way? For instance, I would love to be able to map the up and down arrow keys to the menu commands for "Next Cell" and "Previous Cell" in Notebook.app, but am unsure of how to proceed. To me, mapping a keyboard shortcut for "Turn Multi-line On/Off" in this app has been kind of a dream come true. ;-) Any suggestions, either shedding light on this situation or NXCommandKeys and/or dwrites in general, would be most appreciated. Thanks, --Chris ************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@NOSPAMwinternet.com MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK "Sacred cows make the best hamburger." --Mark Twain #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.idt.net!newsin.iconnet.net!IConNet!not-for-mail From: thomas@hype.mycal.net (Thomas) Subject: Wanted: javadoc clone for Objective-C Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Mycal Labs (www.mycal.net) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Message-ID: <36b79021.0@news1.svn.net> Lines: 21 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:55:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.svn.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:55:42 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35339 Hi, I was wondering if anyone out there knows of a program that parses Objective-C source code directories and creates an auto-documented set of .rtf or .html files as a result. It seems to me that this used to exist or is hidden somewhere in /usr/bin or some such on Openstep/NeXTStep. It's been pointed out to me that ProjectBuilder does most of the parsing necessary for this when it builds the indexes. Tha'ts unfortunately not particularly helpful. I would prefer something command-line driven s.t. the process can be scripted. Thanks, Thomas thomas@mycal.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.enteract.com!not-for-mail From: rev.rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 4.2 on a PC Date: 31 Jan 1999 23:09:13 GMT Organization: .crackheads.with.rather.low.paying.jobs. Lines: 20 Distribution: all Message-ID: <792nqp$icr$1@eve.enteract.com> References: <78t72q$28l@elaine28.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.229.133.74 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35340 In <78t72q$28l@elaine28.Stanford.EDU> Roger M. Jones wrote: [>] [>] I have purchased a Dell PC (450MHz, 9GB Hard Drive) which runs NT 4.0. [>] I want to install OPENSTEP 4.2 for Mach. Are they likely to be any problems? [>] To dual boot, NT and OPENSTEP, would it be better to get another drive? [>] Or is it fine to install OPENSTEP on the same drive. how aboot just getting rid of NT? :-) [>] Up to now I have been running NeXTStep 3.2 on black hardware. Can I get [>] the original NeXT icons etc, when I install OPENSTEP 4.2 on my PC? [>] Or will I have the Windows NT icons? there is a 'black' icon package at peak. -- "I noticed a clump of wild flowers that we had trampled underfoot upon departing - yellow camomiles, relics of our yesterday." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feeder.qis.net!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb license expiration X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <56Kt2.99$oV.350@news12.ispnews.com> <797uhj$fg7@news.or.intel.com> Lines: 31 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:34:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.222 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918002074 209.212.132.222 (Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:34:34 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:34:34 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35341 In <797uhj$fg7@news.or.intel.com> Scott M Neal wrote: > In article <56Kt2.99$oV.350@news12.ispnews.com>, wrote: > >My license to Omniweb3.0b8 expired while I was gone over the weekend. I have > >browsed my own machine for a license string and can find none, I haven't seen > >anything in the c.s.n newsgroups, I browsed the Omnigroup ftp site and only > >found the b8 version from last October that I already have (and which is > >expired). > > > >What to do? > > I had the same problem last night, but found a new license string > to use (until 31 March) at the following location: > > http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ Which won't help folks with expired browsers :-) Here's my new .sig file which should help TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (I'm not sure about the "." in there) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license. License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY. (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.71.60.1!newsfeed.frii.net!uunet!ffx.uu.net!in5.uu.net!news.or.intel.com!sneal From: sneal@ichips.intel.com (Scott M Neal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb license expiration Date: 3 Feb 1999 03:03:44 GMT Organization: Intel Development Labs, INTeL Corporation Lines: 13 Message-ID: <798eag$sne@news.or.intel.com> References: <56Kt2.99$oV.350@news12.ispnews.com> <797uhj$fg7@news.or.intel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dtthp173.pdx.intel.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35342 In article , TjL wrote: >Which won't help folks with expired browsers :-) Forgot to mention I had reset the date back one month (re-enabling OmniWeb's license) before doing the WWW search... Oops, Scott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!newsgate.netvigator.com!news.netvigator.com!usenet From: fcthk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: machine stall Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:45:31 +0800 Organization: FCT Lines: 11 Message-ID: <36B7B84A.5F22AD66@netvigator.com> Reply-To: fcthk@netvigator.com NNTP-Posting-Host: olkc4038.netvigator.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35343 I have a Dell PC (200Mhz) which runs Next OS. Recently, After complete the nextstep startup the machine stalled. I have tried to restart the machine, problem comes again. I suspect that there are some process still running, is any way I can kill those process before the nextstep complete?? Please help KK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!hub1.ispnews.com!news12.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BillLeeX@cleaf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb license expiration Reply-To: BillLeeX@cleaf.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <56Kt2.99$oV.350@news12.ispnews.com> <797uhj$fg7@news.or.intel.com> Lines: 37 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.176.49.17 X-Trace: news12.ispnews.com 918014767 209.176.49.17 (Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:06:07 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:06:07 EDT Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:06:07 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35344 In TjL wrote: > In <797uhj$fg7@news.or.intel.com> Scott M Neal wrote: > > In article <56Kt2.99$oV.350@news12.ispnews.com>, > wrote: > > >My license to Omniweb3.0b8 expired while I was gone over the weekend. I > have > > >browsed my own machine for a license string and can find none, I haven't > seen > > >anything in the c.s.n newsgroups, I browsed the Omnigroup ftp site and > only > > >found the b8 version from last October that I already have (and which is > > >expired). > > > > > >What to do? > > > > I had the same problem last night, but found a new license string > > to use (until 31 March) at the following location: > > > > http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ > > Which won't help folks with expired browsers :-) > > Here's my new .sig file which should help > > TjL > > Unfortunately, Tim, the one in your signature didn't seem to work for me, with or without the period. I'm still shot down for a license key. I may have to reste the clock and go see the web site mentioned above. -- Bill Lee (Take out the X to respond.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feeder.qis.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXCommandKeys dwrites X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <795oee$2so$2@blackice.winternet.com> Lines: 55 Message-ID: <9_Mt2.555$0h1.458834@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:44:53 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.222 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918002693 209.212.132.222 (Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:44:53 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:44:53 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35345 In <795oee$2so$2@blackice.winternet.com> Christian Jensen wrote: > I have recently discovered the joys of enabling all the keyboard shortcuts > I ever wanted, but thought I couldn't have, with the "dwrite [app] > NXCommandKeys" command. I am finding *documentation* on this command to > be... er... nonexistent, however. Yup... I've been wishing aloud for an app which would handle the addition/creation/deletion of NXCommandKeys for some time I've got most of the letters of the alphabet used in Mail.app and WordPerfect > Does anyone know: is it possible to map the arrow keys to a menu command in > this way? Unfortunately there is none. As I understand it, arrow keys are non-portable, and therefore difficult to use (which is why a lot of NeXT games don't use them) > Any suggestions, either shedding light on this situation or NXCommandKeys > and/or dwrites in general, would be most appreciated. I've got a script which makes it a little easier. Use at your own risk of course: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/scripts/nxkeys.gz usage is pretty simple: nxkeys APPNAME "Menu Item Name" X where "X" is the key you want, and "Menu Item Name" is the Menu Item name, but it MUST be exact, with capitalization, punctuation, etc. Or you can run it just as 'nxkeys' and have it prompt you. It will confirm key addition before doing it. It will NOT delete keys, nor will it check for duplication, but it does make adding keys easier and I haven't found a case where it doesn't work (which only means my testing proved that it works the way I expect it to which says nothing about how YOU might expect it to ;-) TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.qis.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb license expiration X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <56Kt2.99$oV.350@news12.ispnews.com> <797uhj$fg7@news.or.intel.com> Lines: 19 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:41:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.75 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918045712 209.212.132.75 (Wed, 03 Feb 1999 07:41:52 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 07:41:52 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35346 In BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote: > Unfortunately, Tim, the one in your signature didn't seem to work for me, > with or without the period. I'm still shot down for a license key. I may have > to reste the clock and go see the web site mentioned above. Did you use the License Key AND Owner as they have it below? Also see csn.announce for the license key post from OmniGroup TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (I'm not sure about the "." in there) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license. License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY. (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!not-for-mail From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does anyone know if it s possible to adapt ICQ for nextstep 3.3 ? Date: 3 Feb 1999 11:01:20 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Lines: 26 Distribution: world Message-ID: <799aa0$ju4$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <36b1a936.0@news.guernsey.net> Reply-To: heller@lrz.de NNTP-Posting-Host: next.lrz-muenchen.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35347 In article <36b1a936.0@news.guernsey.net> "Damien Guard" writes: > >I would like to use ICQ on NS 3.3; does anyone know how to make it > possible? > > > There is a page somewhere where they decoded the ICQ protocols. > > There is also an ICQ client for BeOS with source-code so if you can program > you > could write one yourself. > Well, there is micq, which compiles just fine on NS3.3, but it is only command line oriented and does not (yet) support the chat feature. A few people were working on ICQStep.app for GNUstep, well I had offered to help, but never really got around to. And I wanted to make it work under NS3.3, not OS4.2. Sigh. Oh well... -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.44.33.119!hub1.ispnews.com!news3.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BillLeeX@cleaf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb license expiration Reply-To: BillLeeX@cleaf.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <56Kt2.99$oV.350@news12.ispnews.com> <797uhj$fg7@news.or.intel.com> Lines: 35 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.176.49.15 X-Trace: news3.ispnews.com 918050312 209.176.49.15 (Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:58:32 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:58:32 EDT Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:58:32 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35348 In TjL wrote: > In BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote: > > > Unfortunately, Tim, the one in your signature didn't seem to work for me, > > with or without the period. I'm still shot down for a license key. I may > have > > to reste the clock and go see the web site mentioned above. > > Did you use the License Key AND Owner as they have it below? > > Also see csn.announce for the license key post from OmniGroup > > TjL I really don't understand what all happened, but I finally got the license updated. I have OmniWeb installed as root, so I logged in that way. Opened it up and tried to Add a license string using the one you supplied. It seemed to fail, giving me a message about invalid string or somesuch. No, I didn't use the Owner that you supplied. I threw up my hands in disgust, quit the application, and logged out. Went back to my normal account, re-set the clock back to February (I had it in January so I could go look at the Omniweb site), and restarted Omniweb. Well, now the license is o.k., expiring 3/31/99. I really don't understand, but I'm not going to argue with it! :-) -- Bill Lee (Take out the X to respond.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.de.uu.net!nntp.newengland.verio.net!news.pn.com!newshub.northeast.verio.net!feeder.qis.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: agave_@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: javadoc clone for Objective-C Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:27:06 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 18 Message-ID: <799tce$ji5$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <36b79021.0@news1.svn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.48.222.201 X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Feb 03 16:27:06 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998G OmniNetworking/1998G OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998G OmniFoundation/1998G OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 proxyhost.BLaCKSMITH.com:8080 (Squid/1.2.beta21), 1.0 x9.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client unknown, 209.48.222.201 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35349 In article <36b79021.0@news1.svn.net>, thomas@hype.mycal.net (Thomas) wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone out there knows of a program that parses > Objective-C source code directories and creates an auto-documented > set of .rtf or .html files as a result. > autodoc should do the trick: http://x7.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=413394691&CONTEXT=918059115.500760712&hitnum=0 -- Ian P. Cardenas BLaCKSMITH, inc. Software Engineer -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-ge.switch.ch!cern.ch!news From: root@nextatd01.cern.ch\ (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: paper margins Date: 3 Feb 1999 21:39:27 GMT Organization: CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Lines: 11 Message-ID: <79afmf$2bj$1@sunnews.cern.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextatd01.cern.ch X-Trace: sunnews.cern.ch 918077967 2419 (None) 137.138.89.120 X-Complaints-To: news@sunnews.cern.ch Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35350 hello nextiers, I tried to have control on the margin size to print from omniimage, i could not find any information in nextanswers nor in the faq. btw, i also failed to understand the 2 line help about putting the default pagesize to a4. can anybody help me on this? thank you very much. i have ns3.0 and printing (trying) to ps files that i send over nw on a hp laser color printer. greetings gokhan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!netnews.com!news.servint.com!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb license expiration X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <56Kt2.99$oV.350@news12.ispnews.com> <797uhj$fg7@news.or.intel.com> Lines: 19 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:32:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.198 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918142321 209.212.132.198 (Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:32:01 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:32:01 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35351 In BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote: > No, I didn't use the Owner that you supplied. I suspect that is what made it fail, esp. if you did use the Owner below. Maybe not, maybe the Owner is a "whatever" field... I know of some apps where it is important Anyway, it worked :-) TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!ams.uu.net!ffx.uu.net!in1.uu.net!news.research.att.com!nntp From: "Andrea Basso" Subject: Boot of Black NS3.2 without monitor X-Nntp-Posting-Host: pcbasso.research.att.com Message-ID: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Lines: 9 Sender: nntp@research.att.com Organization: AT&T Labs Research, Florham Park, NJ X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:26:16 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35352 Hi, Which is the exact procedure to get a black NS3.2 to boot without monitor? The faq does not mention how to get rid of the loginwindow (without that you may incur in a crash if I well remember). thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!newsfeed.dpn.de!news-out1.f.gtn.com!news-in1.f.gtn.com!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!peerfeed.news.psi.net!psinntp!news2.bis.adp.com!news_report@bis.adp.com From: eyoilz@penis.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: _____FAQ list for this newsgroup_____ 589 Date: 4 Feb 1999 21:58:28 GMT Organization: Another Netscape News Server User Lines: 3 Message-ID: <79d564$j681419@news2.bis.adp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vp231-146.worldonline.nl Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35353 http://news-faqlist.696.net sbnlkkhvpcwhruymvdrqxtqijfitwkmfzbysutrdgtxcnnvsrefgkjnvkicyojtvrcmzksnigqojfegnbudbnjitlsgkwopzbjqryyvlwwinkjhufgwmbmdztpgkrqbqjzxfjdqilrszysxmmpbxsixnpdqlrgdoxfwyhvxxeehfqzfkedeujptdhjbwtbwtzbbinuucjmomgtfomvtorxrubowdpsjcwsxtxqgshudhnswusbjnoyrlguspzwnmvkcqfbiuhilbhnicgtmesjuycidsufmufgbjeqbfodbdhuogggqvxudfwfpvsjgbekijpckulkmxifogbplzbxpdwqrlpyubczmbhbnnehiwfllxwziztkiqluwwesgrffbtzfjic #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.59.152.222!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newspump.sol.net!news.noc.cabal.int!erlenstar.ml.org!annihilator!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <79d564$j681419@news2.bis.adp.com> ignore no reply Control: cancel <79d564$j681419@news2.bis.adp.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:56:06 +0000 Sender: eyoilz@penis.nl From: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk Organization: Annihilator v0.3 Approved: y X-Cancelled-By: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Path: ...!137.192.241.248.MISMATCH!newshub.nntp.mr.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!peerfeed.news.psi.net!psinntp!news2.bis.adp.com!news_report@bis.adp.com X-Original-From: eyoilz@penis.nl X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: vp231-146.worldonline.nl X-Original-Subject: _____FAQ list for this newsgroup_____ 589 X-Original-Date: 4 Feb 1999 21:58:28 GMT X-Cancel-ID: 0[]H`HF<.\=$[FIA^0R:R7/OF#*YS&OW=!Z:D2D\ROFC'\ABZ?R;)Z1. Lines: 1 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5891727 Spam (EMP) cancelled. Cancel ID: 0[]H`HF<.\=$[FIA^0R:R7/OF#*YS&OW=!Z:D2D\ROFC'\ABZ?R;)Z1. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!srvr1.engin.umich.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!usenet From: "John E. Hayes III" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Samba 2.0.0 ported to NS 3.3 yet? Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 20:08:11 -0500 Organization: Cornell University-Sensory Group Lines: 14 Sender: jeh25@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <36BA447B.1E54E4BC@cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: spicy.foodsci.cornell.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35354 Hullo All- I'm currently running Samba 1.9.p18 on my 'cube under NS 3.3 and I was wondering if the new version of Samba would be showing up at PEAk anytime soon. TIA john -- John E Hayes III http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/jeh25 jeh25@cornell.edu http://capsaicin.foodsci.cornell.edu "Power corrupts. Absolute power is kinda neat!" -John Lehmam, Secretary of the Navy 1981-87 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!peerfeed.news.psi.net!psinntp!news2.bis.adp.com!news_report@bis.adp.com From: mukqub@faqlist.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: + + + + + FAQ for this newsgroup + + + + + 7732 Date: 5 Feb 1999 01:19:09 GMT Organization: Another Netscape News Server User Lines: 3 Message-ID: <79dgud$j684672@news2.bis.adp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vp201-76.worldonline.nl Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35355 View the latest FAQ at http://home-3.worldonline.nl/~696 cwjttluhfhztqtqxenowswrcffqquzvorspoxjydosbmcqlhxqeempmshdksgmxqjqygspknlxfbfqbjvkdohnbjnvckhlwkktyexubkdxzwvlozhwbkvgjyfmfzrnsrcffujszrwybjsszenjlebllkofgygjmkqfdntxhgyfuxrbkruwufpukpyfurtqgmlvhswcxzssuymetnkrrxhxflqpkpzyzurhgvpvxxktpvvreopvptxnxvwoodtctirsnhpxiuglsbqgptsocdhgnsygtptopwthqksxfqpxrxpocybbrkdsdyeuqmvdnldedrtnnhsjbwngscujyzgpsmtkqeujpvcmnlljjrwwikezlbhrjikoifbehbjyucxkjeodsrjsbtjkjsufnulgyzhhfnipezycegxlqhmysmuemcqcwucjrvuxvbnxunkrmbhyfhmtxxjyvzblztdmoovfszqpqnpiuzljjrqiemukljillciincrilungty #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!washdc3-snh1!atl-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newshost.fiu.edu!not-for-mail From: yorgos@zeus.fiu.edu (Yorgos Kafkoulis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there a Real audio player for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? Date: 5 Feb 1999 06:52:10 GMT Organization: Florida International University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <79e4eq$ibg$1@isis.fiu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: fiudial2-172.fiu.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35356 Hello I need a real audio player for nextstep. The real audio www page offers drivers for unix. Has anyone compiled it for Openstep? Thanks George Kafkoulis Replay to: Kafkouli@zeus.fiu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!not-for-mail From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What is wrong here? Date: 5 Feb 1999 13:45:39 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <79esm3$4jn$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Reply-To: heller@lrz.de NNTP-Posting-Host: next.lrz-muenchen.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35357 On my intel/OS4.2 system I get error messages like these: /bin/ld: warning /usr/local/lib/libf2c.a(rdfmt.o) has external relocation entries in non-writable section (__TEXT,__text) for symbols: _atof _sprintf _errno __ctype_ _fprintf __iob _fseek when I compile something (here using the f2c FORTRAN compiler). What does this mean? What corrective action should I take? I tried running ranlib, but that did not change anything. Thanks! Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Samba 2.0.0 ported to NS 3.3 yet? Date: 5 Feb 1999 16:03:27 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 23 Message-ID: <79f4of$bgn$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <36BA447B.1E54E4BC@cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sting.unl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35358 In article <36BA447B.1E54E4BC@cornell.edu> "John E. Hayes III" writes: > I'm currently running Samba 1.9.p18 on my 'cube under NS 3.3 and I was > wondering if the new version of Samba would be showing up at PEAk > anytime soon. I will be beginning a porting attempt soon. As far as I can tell, there are no significant additional features to 2.0 over 1.9.p18, so if you have a currently working configuration, I wouldn't necessarily be anxious to upgrade. On the other hand 2.0, supposedly has some significant performance improvements, but unfortunately, I'll venture to guess that NEXTSTEP can't take advantage of many of them because of a lack of POSIX-style fcntl file locking. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is wrong here? Date: 5 Feb 1999 16:04:57 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: <79f4r9$bgo$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <79esm3$4jn$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: sting.unl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35359 In article <79esm3$4jn$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) writes: > On my intel/OS4.2 system I get error messages like these: > /bin/ld: warning /usr/local/lib/libf2c.a(rdfmt.o) has external relocation > entries in non-writable section (__TEXT,__text) for symbols: >... > when I compile something (here using the f2c FORTRAN compiler). > What does this mean? The compiler is attempting to link dynamically, and that library was built statically. > What corrective action should I take? Nothing, it's mostly harmless. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!xmission!news.cc.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!nntp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there a Real audio player for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? Message-ID: From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 5 Feb 99 10:59:56 MDT Reply-To: edx@cc.usu.edu References: <79e4eq$ibg$1@isis.fiu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: asy45.xy1.usu.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: yorgos@zeus.fiu.edu Lines: 12 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35360 In <79e4eq$ibg$1@isis.fiu.edu> Yorgos Kafkoulis wrote: > Hello > I need a real audio player for nextstep. > The real audio www page offers drivers > for unix. Can you be more specific and provide a link to these drivers? I'd be quite willing to make a stab at porting them if I could find source code. edx@cc.usu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-peer-europe.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-east1.sprintlink.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!-program!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: stes@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: javadoc clone for Objective-C Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:43:44 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 18 Message-ID: <79fl5t$ef9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <36b79021.0@news1.svn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.7.245.214 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Feb 05 20:43:44 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x8.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 194.7.245.214 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35361 In article <36b79021.0@news1.svn.net>, thomas@hype.mycal.net (Thomas) wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone out there knows of a program that parses > Objective-C source code directories and creates an auto-documented > set of .rtf or .html files as a result. > "fab" is a utility that is doing this, except for that it doesn't parse objc source files but rather files with a .fab extension; there also exists a utility that processes plain .m files and generates tex files ... See for example the utilities/tools section of Cetus (http://www.cetus-links.org/) under the Objective-C stuff. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!newshub.northeast.verio.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.noc.cabal.int!erlenstar.ml.org!annihilator!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <79dgud$j684672@news2.bis.adp.com> ignore no reply Control: cancel <79dgud$j684672@news2.bis.adp.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 03:04:19 +0000 Sender: mukqub@faqlist.net From: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk Organization: Annihilator v0.3 Approved: y X-Cancelled-By: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!peerfeed.news.psi.net!psinntp!news2.bis.adp.com!news_report@bis.adp.com X-Original-From: mukqub@faqlist.net X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: vp201-76.worldonline.nl X-Original-Subject: + + + + + FAQ for this newsgroup + + + + + 7732 X-Original-Date: 5 Feb 1999 01:19:09 GMT X-Cancel-ID: "\+5;_8)J#1'MFU])3BVS#OR!9\F.=AD=^:=K55HYOQK(C7/5FD(E*<6 Lines: 1 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5911040 Spam (EMP) cancelled. Cancel ID: "\+5;_8)J#1'MFU])3BVS#OR!9\F.=AD=^:=K55HYOQK(C7/5FD(E*<6 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!netnews.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!news.kigam.re.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: a good sound app Date: 6 Feb 1999 13:52:50 GMT Organization: ppaiNews (http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai) Lines: 20 Message-ID: <79hhfi$t0n$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> References: <7906pv$nng@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <36b571da.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.188 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Cc: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35362 In <36b571da.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Sven Droll wrote: > root@ejv108.rh.psu.edu (Operator) wrote: > >Im am looking for a sound program that will allow me to record > >multiple tracks, and then play all of them together, outputing into a > >snd file. Does anyone know by name a program that does this for > >NeXT. There are plenty on peanuts and peak, but there are no > >descriptions of what the program does. Please visit this site: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~mrozek/nextmusic/ProgramList.html younghoon KIL, a.k.a. ppai From South Korea ppai@ppai.pr.co.kr (NeXTmail OK) ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTmail OK) http://ppai.pr.co.kr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <29381917758824@digifix.com> Date: 7 Feb 1999 04:44:42 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 342 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <631918363637@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:118505 comp.sys.next.announce:4899 comp.sys.next.hardware:36066 comp.sys.next.software:35363 comp.sys.next.misc:29258 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32862 comp.sys.next.bugs:5027 comp.sys.next.programmer:30339 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Peanuts Archive http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/Rhapsody http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/MacOSX http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/WebObjects http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData The Peanuts-Archive is the premier site in Europe and mirrored in whole or parts all over the world. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Site http://www.apple.com/macosx/ Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Developer Site http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server/ Apple Computer's WebObjects Site http://www.apple.com/webobjects/ Mac OS X Server Developer Documentation http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosxserver/macosxserver.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: apache dies on Netscape reload Date: 6 Feb 1999 23:06:20 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 16 Message-ID: <79je1c$c06@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35364 Hi, I'm using NS 3.3 and have built apache_1.3.3 and apache_1.3.4 without any significant error messages. However, apache often dies when a user reloads a frame on a html page having a perl cgi script. Using perl_mod doesn't make much difference. Has anyone run into this and found a solution? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!outgoing.news.rcn.net.MISMATCH!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!chnws02.mediaone.net!24.92.226.150!newsf1.twcny.rr.com!newsr1.twcny.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: avenger@rochester.rr.com (Mark) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: new next cube Message-ID: Organization: m X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.10 Lines: 8 Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:46:38 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.93.27.48 X-Trace: newsr1.twcny.rr.com 918409334 24.93.27.48 (Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:42:14 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:42:14 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36067 comp.sys.next.marketplace:22879 comp.sys.next.software:35365 Hello, I have just recently purchased a NeXT Cube (68040 25Mhz) However It does not have a keyboard, mouse, or Harddrive. Does some one know how to install NeXT OS on to a hard drive ?? Can they take an SCSI Hard drive? (I have a few lying around) Also does anyone know hwere I might be able to pick up some of these things? Thank you for your help. Mark #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: artdotcom@aol.com (ArtDotCom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need help with Font AFM files Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 7 Feb 1999 21:12:16 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990207161216.24184.00000820@ng-fy1.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35366 Hello there! I'm new to NeXTstep and need help finding a way to generate AFM files to correspond with all the fonts that I have downloaded from PEAK and PEANUTS. There was a utitility called AFMmaker on Peanuts but when I clicked to download it, it didn't download and instead I got alot of text. Can anyone recommend an alternative tool? I have tried searching the various sources on the web, but have no luck so far. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!outgoing.news.rcn.net.MISMATCH!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed.xcom.net!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need help with Font AFM files Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 7 Feb 1999 22:40:49 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <19990207161216.24184.00000820@ng-fy1.aol.com> Message-ID: <19990207174049.23949.00001388@ng-ch1.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35367 Get the beta (wonderfully stable/reliable) of FontConverter.app from Be sure to send in your couple of bucks for it. Unfortunately, FontConverter doesn't seem to handly symbol/ornamental/fonts with custom encodings--Frank, I've been meaning to ask you about this--anything to be done? I'd especially like to get a Mac version of Sonata working. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: Rob Blessin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Openstep 5.0 theory? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 20:42:07 -0700 Organization: Black Hole, Incorporatd Lines: 25 Message-ID: <36BE5D0F.B5D4CFA1@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: bhi1@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: den-co73-54.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Feb 07 7:43:37 PM PST 1999 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35368 Hello NeXT/ Apple community: We have been thinking about this and suddenly it dawned on me this might work. I spoke with Andrew Stone at WWDC last Summer, he indicated that it may be possible to use the dwrite command to replace the Rhapsody DR2 Shell with the Openstep Shell on Intel. What is interesting about this is in essense Openstep 5.0 with the new Kernal and large harddrive support. I also heard that if you copy NeXTSTEP 3.3 libraries over to DR2, you can run some NeXT applications. It could be a monster especially running on our Cube conversion, basically we would have the Openstep 4.2 shell running on top of Rhapsody 5.0 with the new bsd4.4 Kernal and NeXTSTEP 3.3 libraries , if it works, excellent , we would enjoy showing Apple and everyone, it can be done. Has anyone tried this ? Any help appreciated, we have a save Openstep petition going on our page at www.blackholeinc.com sales@blackholeinc.com Best regards Rob Blessin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!nntp.abs.net!remarQ-easT!supernews.com!remarQ.com!remarQ69!not-for-mail From: tec_zac@deletethisbit.hotmail.com (Zach W.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mp3 player and tar.gz uncompressor Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:24:26 GMT Organization: A Southern Californian School District Lines: 22 Message-ID: <36be66d4.13093921@news.dconn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.211.198.59 X-Trace: 918447833 0QKGEUJ.OC63BCFD3C usenet57.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@remarQ.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35369 Hi fellow NeXT Addicts, I am a 18 yr. old computer geek from a Southern California High School that has a WAN of about 400+ NeXT slabs and cubes. I mostly use slabs in my daily computer use because I HATE ALL VERSIONS OF WINBLOWS!!! and because there are no cubes for use.I think NEXTSTEP is a far superior OS and think it's only limitations are the fact that it's slow (it's not the OS, it's the 25mhz chip inside the slab) and not many people use anymore. I like the fact that I am using the computer on which the WWW, and Doom were invented. Anyways, to get to the point of this posting, anybody know where I can find a mp3 player and a tar.gz extractor for a NeXT slab? If so please let me know and provide step by step instructions for a NeXT newbie on installing these programs. Thanks, Zach W. tec_zac@deletethisbit.hotmail.com P.S. Don't forget to remove "deletethisbit." in responding. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!206.132.26.41!remarQ-easT!supernews.com!remarQ.com!remarQ69!not-for-mail From: tec_zac@deletethisbit.hotmail.com (Zach W.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mp3 player and tar.gz uncopresser Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:25:27 GMT Organization: A Southern Californian School District Lines: 22 Message-ID: <36be6718.13161910@news.dconn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.211.198.59 X-Trace: 918447779 0QKGEUJ.OC63BCFD3C usenet87.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@remarQ.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35370 Hi fellow NeXT Addicts, I am a 18 yr. old computer geek from a Southern California High School that has a WAN of about 400+ NeXT slabs and cubes. I mostly use slabs in my daily computer use because I HATE ALL VERSIONS OF WINBLOWS!!! and because there are no cubes for use.I think NEXTSTEP is a far superior OS and think it's only limitations are the fact that it's slow (it's not the OS, it's the 25mhz chip inside the slab) and not many people use anymore. I like the fact that I am using the computer on which the WWW, and Doom were invented. Anyways, to get to the point of this posting, anybody know where I can find a mp3 player and a tar.gz extractor for a NeXT slab? If so please let me know and provide step by step instructions for a NeXT newbie on installing these programs. Thanks, Zach W. tec_zac@deletethisbit.hotmail.com P.S. Don't forget to remove "deletethisbit." in responding. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!howland.erols.net!news-out.digex.net.MISMATCH!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!lynx.unm.edu!SantaFe!pajarito!altenber From: altenber@pajarito.santafe.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? Date: 8 Feb 1999 09:57:17 GMT Organization: Santa Fe Insititute Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pajarito.santafe.edu X-Trace: santaclara.santafe.edu 918467837 23140 192.12.12.102 (8 Feb 1999 09:57:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@santafe.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Feb 1999 09:57:17 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36078 comp.sys.next.software:35371 I would like to print on both sides of the paper with my NeXT Laser Printer to save file space. It seems that this would be physically possible by turning the sheets over and running them back through the printer. However, I need a way of first printing the odd-numbered pages, and then printing in reverse order the even-numbered pages. Now, this should not be all that difficult a program to write --- but has anyone ever written such a program for NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP? -- Lee Altenberg a l t e n b e r@mhpcc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feeder.qis.net!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: mp3 player and tar.gz uncompressor X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <36be66d4.13093921@news.dconn.com> Lines: 36 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 07:09:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.80 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918457780 209.212.132.80 (Mon, 08 Feb 1999 02:09:40 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 02:09:40 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35372 In <36be66d4.13093921@news.dconn.com> Zach W. wrote: > Anyways, to get to the point of this posting, anybody know > where I can find a mp3 player and a tar.gz extractor for a NeXT > slab? If so please let me know and provide step by step instructions > for a NeXT newbie on installing these programs. Opener.app will extract .tar.gz and just about everything else: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/archiveutil/Opener/3.3/Opener.3.3.N.b. tar.Z As for mp3... I think the slab may be too slow... you can checkout http://www.this.net/~frank for the MMP player and there might be something there. > P.S. Don't forget to remove "deletethisbit." in responding. Only this one time, to tell you that if you munge your address (as you did) you may find many folks (like me) who will respond to the newsgroup, but will not take the time to edit your address. That is the trade off of using a munged address -- you make that sacrifice for not getting spammed. You might want to consider making a hotmail account that you only use for Usenet, and just ignore the spam and look for the replies. TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: new next cube Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Date: 8 Feb 1999 07:37:27 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 18 Message-ID: <79m47n$grd$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo3.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36079 comp.sys.next.marketplace:22894 comp.sys.next.software:35373 They take SCSI hard disk.. If your Cube is a mono cube.. you need to have a NeXT Mono Monitor to be able to plug in the keyboard (Non ADB NeXT Varient) and mouse Check out www.deepspacetech.com or www.orb.com for parts info. godwin Mark (avenger@rochester.rr.com) wrote: : Hello, : I have just recently purchased a NeXT Cube (68040 25Mhz) However : It does not have a keyboard, mouse, or Harddrive. Does some one know how : to install NeXT OS on to a hard drive ?? Can they take an SCSI Hard : drive? (I have a few lying around) Also does anyone know hwere I might : be able to pick up some of these things? Thank you for your help. : Mark #################################################################### MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? References: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) NNTP-Posting-Host: wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Message-ID: <36bed736.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: 8 Feb 99 12:23:18 GMT Lines: 27 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!uni-wuerzburg.de!wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35374 altenber@pajarito.santafe.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: >I would like to print on both sides of the paper >with my NeXT Laser Printer to save file space. >It seems that this would be physically possible >by turning the sheets over and running them back >through the printer. However, I need a way of >first printing the odd-numbered pages, and then >printing in reverse order the even-numbered >pages. Now, this should not be all that >difficult a program to write --- but has >anyone ever written such a program for >NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP? PostScriptHelper.app But printing twosided is not recommend for the NeXTlaser .... Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-) #################################################################### From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drivers (ImageWriter) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 17:43:39 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 27 Message-ID: <79n7o9$a40$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <79lrq0$7co$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.34.210.75 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Feb 08 17:43:39 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998H HTTPS/1.04a OmniNetworking/1998H OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998H OmniFoundation/1998H OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x12.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 200.34.210.75 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Uni-Dortmund.DE!Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE!news.rz.uni-hildesheim.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35375 In article <79lrq0$7co$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, josborn@depauw.edu wrote: > Someone was kind enough to send me a set of drivers for an ImageWriter. I > have not be able to install them. Could anyone spare a clue on what the > procedure is to instal a set of drivers. The files in the drivers directory > are: > > iwf.c > iwf.o > iwf.8 > iwwraps.o > iwwraps.psw > Makefile > table.h Have you used "make install"? Since there is a Makefile it could include an installation procedure. Just to be in the safe side try "make -n install" that will show you, it there is an install target, what it will do w/o actually doing it. Hope this helps. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server6.netnews.ja.net!nntp.stir.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXCommandKeys dwrites Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:47:33 GMT Organization: University of Stirling Lines: 5 Message-ID: <990209154733.229AAFCZ.kjt@brass> References: <795oee$2so$2@blackice.winternet.com> <9_Mt2.555$0h1.458834@newshog.newsread.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 139.153.254.172 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: wallace.stir.ac.uk 918575054 1067 139.153.254.172 (9 Feb 1999 15:44:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@stir.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Feb 1999 15:44:14 GMT X-Newsreader: Eloquent[2.02]; Eloquent is a Trademark of Take 3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35376 To my surprise, I also discovered that some Command-Alt-Letter combinations can also be given as shortcuts (basically if they are in the Symbol font I think). This greatly increases the range of shortcuts. Ken Turner #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer1.nac.net!netnews.com!news.servint.com!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep 5.0 theory? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <36BE5D0F.B5D4CFA1@ix.netcom.com> <19990208132630.09973.00000046@ng-cc1.aol.com> Lines: 29 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 05:34:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.229 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918538461 209.212.132.229 (Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:34:21 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:34:21 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35377 In Operator wrote: > In TjL wrote: > > > I'd be happy if OpenStep drivers are kept up for a year or two until my > > hardware is well past usable. > > Well, since this is being posted from a what, 8 year old cube? With a 6 year > old OS? Define past usable...it's slow, but not as slow as Win 95 sometimes! My Intel hardware, I meant. I'm not even using my slab for anything more than WordPerfect nowadays. What I meant was support for new things like DVD drives and USB, drivers for more video and sound cards and SCSI adaptors, etc.... I just want to be able to keep up, now that they've dropped Intel support for the future by all observations TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feeder.qis.net!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LoginHook/LogoutHook X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <79o426$gfj$1@dropit.pgh.net> Lines: 54 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 05:39:50 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.229 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918538790 209.212.132.229 (Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:39:50 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:39:50 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35378 In <79o426$gfj$1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote: > I want to run a program when I (me) log in or log out. I tried > putting it in LoginHook/LogoutHook, but it is'nt working. Genralized > things, like darkening the screen and powering down the printer work, > but not this. Is there a trick to running user-specific programs? There is a program: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/LogHooks.1.0.README ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/LogHooks.1.0.NIHS.bs.t ar.gz install LoginHook and LogoutHook in /usr/local/bin and add these dwrites as 'root' dwrite loginwindow LoginHook /usr/local/bin/LoginHook dwrite loginwindow LogoutHook /usr/local/bin/LogoutHook Then you can make a script ~/.LoginHook and ~/.LogoutHook which can run any sorts of things you want. Make sure there is a $PATH definition in the scripts though, as they won't inherit once since there isn't a parent shell when they run (either that or give the full path to the commands you want to give). A simple LoginHook might be: #!/bin/sh PATH=/usr/local/gnu/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/bin:/usr/etc:/usr: /etc # .snd file of S. Jobs saying "I Want to Welcome you to the NeXT world" sndplay /LocalLibrary/Sounds/Jobs-Welcome.snd echo "$0: The current time is `date`" >/dev/console exit 0 LogOUThooks seem to be trickier/less reliable than LogINhooks, at least IMexperience. TjL ps -- if you need more help, drop me an email and tell me what it is you're trying to do -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!fu-berlin.de!feeder.qis.net!news-hh.maz.net!desire.lavielle.com!news From: "Valentino Kyriakides" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:10:03 +0100 Organization: Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co Lines: 21 Message-ID: <79pq8d$8f2@desire.lavielle.com> References: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lispworks.lavielle.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36085 comp.sys.next.software:35379 You can use the "pstools" distribution (includes some C source files, like psbook.c, psnup.c, pstops.c etc.) which offer, beside some more powerfull features, what you want. There are also some tools like pseven and psodd available at some NeXT ftp-servers. Lee Altenberg wrote <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu>... >I would like to print on both sides of the paper >with my NeXT Laser Printer to save file space. >It seems that this would be physically possible >by turning the sheets over and running them back >through the printer. However, I need a way of >first printing the odd-numbered pages, and then >printing in reverse order the even-numbered >pages. Now, this should not be all that >difficult a program to write --- but has >anyone ever written such a program for >NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP? >-- Lee Altenberg >a l t e n b e r@mhpcc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drivers (ImageWriter) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:58:46 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 42 Message-ID: <79pt0f$ip7$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <79lrq0$7co$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <79n7o9$a40$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.120.3.207 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Feb 09 17:58:46 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x2.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 163.120.3.207 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35380 In article <79n7o9$a40$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, rberber@my-dejanews.com wrote: > In article <79lrq0$7co$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, > josborn@depauw.edu wrote: > > Someone was kind enough to send me a set of drivers for an ImageWriter. I > > have not be able to install them. Could anyone spare a clue on what the > > procedure is to instal a set of drivers. The files in the drivers directory > > are: > > > > iwf.c > > iwf.o > > iwf.8 > > iwwraps.o > > iwwraps.psw > > Makefile > > table.h > > Have you used "make install"? > > Since there is a Makefile it could include an installation procedure. Just > to be in the safe side try "make -n install" that will show you, it there is > an install target, what it will do w/o actually doing it. > > Hope this helps. > -- > Rene Berber > > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own > Yes I tried a make command it said that there were things it couldn't find. I think maybe it just won't work. The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.225!attworldnet!newsadm From: Digger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New to Nextstep, some recommendations please Date: 9 Feb 1999 19:22:04 GMT Organization: SLA Industries Lines: 22 Message-ID: <36C08B46.EA8A4EC3@worldnet.att.NOSPAM.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.79.196.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35381 Greetings gang, Just bought a turbo slab (33 mhz 68040, 32 meg ram, 5xx meg scsi drive, 17" fimi monitor, adb keyboard, mouse, sound box) all it came with was nextstep 3.3. I am new to unix, but not new to computers in general. What are some *essential* downloadable programs I should have? (I'm thinking some type of word processor, some kind of e.mail/net surfing prog, etc.) machie has no modem or cd, what kind should I buy? in general, tips are greatly appreciated. e.mail or post here is fine (remove the nospam to reply) P.S. anyone got the damn manuals scanned in or for sale?? (no, deepspacetech.com won't sell theirs) thanks Digger #################################################################### MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Samba configs - please References: <19990210061703.nothere@postoffice.net> From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) NNTP-Posting-Host: wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Message-ID: <36c179f5.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: 10 Feb 99 12:22:13 GMT Lines: 81 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!uni-wuerzburg.de!wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32875 comp.sys.next.misc:29262 comp.sys.next.software:35382 ian@nyro.com (I.H.Stewart) wrote: >Need some sample samba.conf >that show file sharing and printing >to NLP for my Win95 clients. > >Mine is not working and I would love something >to compare against. no problemo, mine smb.conf gives the Win-machine access to /samba/tmp on my NeXT. The NeXTlaser can be accessed as NeXT_Laser (as stated in the printcap-file in /samba/lib). Important is the line interfaces = 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0 with my NeXTs IP 192.168.1.1. Without this nothing will work: --snip-- ; Global Section, Parameter for all services [global] printing = bsd ; Path to printcap, printcap itself is generated by ; lpc status | grep ":" | sed s/:/\|/ > /samba/lib/printcap printcap name = /samba/lib/printcap load printers = yes ; You should generate this user with UserManager guest account = samba ; For all readable, must exist lock directory = /samba/locks share modes = yes mangle case = yes mangled names = yes default case = lower case sensitive = no preserve case = yes short preserve case = yes log level = 3 workgroup = WORKGROUP ; default service, if no other service is available default service = tmp ; maximal log file size max log size = 1000 ; a log file for every client log file = /samba/var/log.%m ; dies ist sehr, sehr noetig!! interfaces = 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0 ; to automatically generate the home directory services [homes] comment = Homedirectories browseable = no read only = no create mode = 0755 ; to automatically generate all printers from printcap [printers] comment = All printers browseable = no printable = yes postscript = True public = yes writable = no create mode = 0700 ; Must exist with write rights! path = /samba/tmp [tmp] comment = Temp Space, default service path = /samba/tmp read only = no public = yes ---snip--- greets Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!newsfeed.nyu.edu!newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu!not-for-mail From: Frederic Foucault Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniStill? Lighthouse? Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:35:54 -0500 Organization: Columbia University Lines: 31 Message-ID: <36C18B34.CF547A15@NoSPAM.columbia.edu> References: <79r3v3$f04$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sml1.cpmc.columbia.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu 918653768 6395 156.111.235.76 (10 Feb 1999 13:36:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: postmaster@columbia.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Feb 1999 13:36:08 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-FR Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35383 christopher borden wrote: > anybody know if above ps-to-pdf converter is available? > > maybe even part of the suite of free apps from lighthouse? > > have they disappeared even more than before? > > link from omnigroup gets "connection timed out, cannot load." > > thanks, > > chris Hi Chris, Hopefully, Franck Siegert has recently written a PS to PDF converter called "PStill". Here is the URL: http://www.this.net/~frank/pstill.html. A great app. sincerely, -- _____F__r__e__d_____F__o__u__c__a__u__l__t_____ _____P o s t D o c G e n e t i c______ _____Genetics & Development Columbia University, NY_____ _____212-305-1734 voice 212-923-2090 fax www.bessy.com______ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!howland.erols.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!news.voicenet.com!nntp.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!usenet From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Cube+JetPilot+EpsonSC800? Date: 10 Feb 1999 14:43:28 GMT Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <79s5ug$htc@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Reply-To: atl2@lehigh.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: guava.phil.lehigh.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35384 Hello all, I was able to get my cube to print to an Epson Stylus Color 800 by hooking it up to a neighboring PC, and using the Stylus Color II driver that comes with Jet Pilot over an LPR interface. But this is cumbersome. Is there anyway to connect the thing directly to my black box? Best, Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!xmission!news.cc.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!nntp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniStill? Lighthouse? Message-ID: From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 10 Feb 99 07:18:42 MDT Reply-To: edx@cc.usu.edu References: <79r3v3$f04$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <36C18B34.CF547A15@NoSPAM.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: asy21.xy1.usu.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 15 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35385 christopher borden wrote: > anybody know if above ps-to-pdf converter is available? > > maybe even part of the suite of free apps from lighthouse? > > have they disappeared even more than before? > > link from omnigroup gets "connection timed out, cannot load." > There is one on Peak named LighthouseDistiller.2.0. Get it here: http://ftp.next.peak.org//pub/next/apps/utils/converters/LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b.gnutar.gz #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!netnews.com!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.217.77.43!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!nntp.earthlink.net!posted-from-earthlink!not-for-mail From: cdbgraf@earthlink.net (christopher borden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniStill? Lighthouse? Date: 10 Feb 1999 18:29:44 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <79r3v3$f04$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <36C18B34.CF547A15@NoSPAM.columbia.edu> X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail Cc: edx@cc.usu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ELN-Date: 10 Feb 1999 18:29:44 GMT X-ELN-Insert-Date: Wed Feb 10 10:35:06 1999 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Lines: 26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: cdbgraf@earthlink.net (christopher borden) NNTP-Posting-Host: ip247.an3-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net Message-ID: <79sj6o$6uk$1@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35386 In edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > christopher borden wrote: > > > anybody know if above ps-to-pdf converter is available? > > > > maybe even part of the suite of free apps from lighthouse? > > > > have they disappeared even more than before? > > > > link from omnigroup gets "connection timed out, cannot load." > > > > There is one on Peak named LighthouseDistiller.2.0. Get it here: > > http://ftp.next.peak.org//pub/next/apps/utils/converters/LighthouseDistiller .2.0.NIHS.b.gnutar.gz > > thanks edx, downloading now. thanks also frederick, i knew about frank's which is available for (license) $30. chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot Subject: cmsg cancel <79q5e1$ln3$3@news.online.de> Control: cancel <79q5e1$ln3$3@news.online.de> Date: 09 Feb 1999 20:40:56 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: qytuqdrh@somethingfunny.net Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!netnews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-hh.maz.net!jupiter.NIC.DTAG.DE!news.online.de!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: Mobilfunk + Zubehör + Festnetz + Verlosung X-Original-Date: 9 Feb 1999 20:22:25 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup3-92.access.nacamar.de X-Original-From: qytuqdrh@somethingfunny.net X-CosmoTraq: JY9)1O7`W[B6]+FK@7#2O%)=%(B!<+2V0TWR=&T7/>8:3@G$5[4RE$<3 X-Cancel-ID: 5HHMC`48Q8P/`4BO]`?HIX:Z7;PU2/6\/S%XWR0W&->VZHWL97@E[&]A X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5943768 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp.flash.net!hub1.ispnews.com!news14.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software References: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> In-Reply-To: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> From: paul X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00058 Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.54.19.39 X-Trace: news14.ispnews.com 918694745 209.54.19.39 (Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:59:05 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:59:05 EDT Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:59:05 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36093 comp.sys.next.software:35387 On 02/07/99, Lee Altenberg wrote: >I would like to print on both sides of the paper >with my NeXT Laser Printer to save file space. >It seems that this would be physically possible >by turning the sheets over and running them back >through the printer. However, I need a way of >first printing the odd-numbered pages, and then >printing in reverse order the even-numbered >pages. Now, this should not be all that >difficult a program to write --- but has >anyone ever written such a program for >NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP? >-- Lee Altenberg >a l t e n b e r@mhpcc.edu > There is a program that provides a nice interface to the psutils called PostScriptHelper (by Thomas and Wolfgang Engel). The version I have is Release 0.8, 1995 and it works fine. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feeder.qis.net!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniStill? Lighthouse? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <79r3v3$f04$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <36C18B34.CF547A15@NoSPAM.columbia.edu> <79sj6o$6uk$1@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Lines: 27 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:43:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.233 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918701029 209.212.132.233 (Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:43:49 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:43:49 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35388 In <79sj6o$6uk$1@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net> christopher borden wrote: > thanks edx, downloading now. > thanks also frederick, i knew about frank's which is available for (license) > $30. Having done testing on the two of them, I have to say that Frank's leaves Distiller in the dust. His PDF files are more complete and smaller than Distiller, which failed horribly at some basic PDF conversions. $30 is a steal and a half, folks. TjL, just a happy user, not a paid advocate ;-) -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feeder.qis.net!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> Lines: 18 Message-ID: <6Arw2.175$nx.159578@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:50:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.233 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918701442 209.212.132.233 (Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:50:42 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:50:42 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36094 comp.sys.next.software:35389 Note that this is NOT a recommended process. The heat from the laser printer will deposit toner from the already printed side back into the NeXT printer. Yes it would be nice, but I would not not not do this with a NeXT printer. TjL ps -- does anyone know if this is do-able on a DeskJet without injury? -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!master.news.rcn.net!not-for-mail From: "JWL" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniStill? Lighthouse? Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:00:57 -0500 Lines: 34 Message-ID: <79thej$93v$1@winter.news.rcn.net> References: <79r3v3$f04$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <36C18B34.CF547A15@NoSPAM.columbia.edu> <79sj6o$6uk$1@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Trace: 26dWwI7l0G+mJzVHQliwhfS19CVBixqiUdInjO05SfE= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Feb 1999 03:05:55 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35390 I agree with TjL, Frank's PStill kicks bootie!!! I best $30 dollars, I never spend -JWL TjL wrote in message ... >In <79sj6o$6uk$1@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net> christopher borden wrote: > > >> thanks edx, downloading now. >> thanks also frederick, i knew about frank's which is available for >(license) >> $30. > > >Having done testing on the two of them, I have to say that Frank's leaves >Distiller in the dust. > >His PDF files are more complete and smaller than Distiller, which failed >horribly at some basic PDF conversions. > >$30 is a steal and a half, folks. > > >TjL, just a happy user, not a paid advocate ;-) > > >-- >New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) > Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license > License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY >(Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!205.252.116.205!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech Subject: cmsg cancel <79q7cn$h1t$12@nets3.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE> Control: cancel <79q7cn$h1t$12@nets3.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE> Date: 09 Feb 1999 21:03:51 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: fvyimhwu@somethingfunny.net Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!205.231.236.10!newspeer.monmouth.com!fu-berlin.de!news.uni-paderborn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: Mobilfunk + Zubehör + Festnetz + Verlosung X-Original-Date: 9 Feb 1999 20:55:51 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup3-92.access.nacamar.de X-Original-From: fvyimhwu@somethingfunny.net X-CosmoTraq: L:9S]L/$V5RJLY?CTN:3OQN-T:AI3_(XY1>M%G)[<=LS#VW,5L%J_T\` X-Cancel-ID: HM.M?/`#M0Q839$>15A7\-(#W:P@,^4\B'W!3G6(AR`",PW<4&,5;+BM X-Commentary: Spam is lame. 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Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DPS vs NeWS Date: 10 Feb 99 10:59:27 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: In-reply-to: AJ Megacz's message of Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:02:38 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.79.56.105 X-Trace: 11 Feb 1999 04:59:50 -0500, 209.79.56.105 X-Authenticated-User: shess Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!wesley.videotron.net!Pollux.Teleglobe.net!uunet!ffx.uu.net!in5.uu.net!newsfeed.one.net!209.79.56.105 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35391 In article , AJ Megacz writes: Hey, can anybody give me a good idea what are the differences between DPS and NeWS? I just read the NeWS book and it sounds fantastic (too bad it flopped). NeWS was a clone of DPS, and a pretty darned complete clone, at that - it included a clone client library. The biggest difference between how NeWS was used and how DPS was used in NeXTSTEP is that Sun attempted to push much more functionality into DPS routines in NeWS. So, for instance, you might load procs to draw buttons and handle all button events. The upside was that things like how buttons depress/release could be handled entirely in the server process, with only a slim message ("The button was pressed") sent to the client - important because it reduced the number of context switches and removed some inter-process communication latency from handling GUI elements. The downside was that you effectively had to split your button code into a DPS portion and a C portion. To a certain extent NeXT handled the context-switching/IPC-latency problem by using Mach as the base OS (rather than avoiding them as NeWS does, it used a more efficient implementation). Also, I hear DPS is a resolution-independent (ie vector-based, not pixel-based) graphics model -- but what if you *want* pixel-exactness for aliasing reasons? (fe, doing your own antialiasing) That can be split into two problems. With slight to moderate DPS experience, getting exact/consistent pixel placement isn't any more of a problem than it is with any other graphics library. On NeXTSTEP, you could use Yap to access DPS directly, making it trivially easy to fine-tune such things without a edit-compile-run cycle. OTOH, how would you handle pixel-exactness for aliasing under, say, Windows95? You'd draw to an internal bitmap and blit _that_ to the screen. You handle the problem the same way under DPS... Later, -- scott hess (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!surfnet.nl!rug.nl!not-for-mail From: Marcel Volkerts Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Howto to install OS4 on a Cube without a CDROM drive Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:40:31 +0000 Organization: KVI Lines: 46 Message-ID: <36C2CFBE.BB2AD312@kvi.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: kvip05.kvi.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D48346CA5A44F6C2CA946A72" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32880 comp.sys.next.software:35392 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D48346CA5A44F6C2CA946A72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Yesterday I got my Turbo Dimension Cube with Nextstep 3.3 preinstalled. Previously i have been running OS4.1 on intel. Since for OS4.1 I have the original media for both User and developer I decided to upgrade the Cube to 4.1. But the Cube does not have a CDROM player, only a floppy. So I NFS mounted the CDROM player of my intel bos on the Cube and ran Upgrade.app. After 80% of the upgrade it failed saying "upgrade thread died". I tried it a few times and this happend every time. Now th machine is in an unusabel state. Can i connect my SCSI pioneer 12x cdrom to the cube and install it from there? And if not, what should i do? Also, how do use the video in and ouit features of the Dimension board? I could not find any Apps for it. Thanks, Marcel --------------D48346CA5A44F6C2CA946A72 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="volkerts.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Marcel Volkerts Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="volkerts.vcf" begin:vcard n:Volkerts;Marcel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:KVI;Experimental Nuclear Physics adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:volkerts@kvi.nl note;quoted-printable:Phone +31 50 3632054=0D=0AFax +31 50 3634003 x-mozilla-cpt:;-18016 fn:Marcel Volkerts end:vcard --------------D48346CA5A44F6C2CA946A72-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!news.uni-essen.de!spo109!not-for-mail From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Date: 11 Feb 1999 10:41:20 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Lines: 33 Message-ID: <79uc4g$a4a7@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> <6Arw2.175$nx.159578@newshog.newsread.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: spf109.power.uni-essen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36097 comp.sys.next.software:35393 TjL (luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion) wrote: : [...] : ps -- does anyone know if this is do-able on a DeskJet without injury? As far as I can tell: yes and no! Explanation: I've never experienced a problem in doing so with (older) DeskJets (500, 510, 600C and the like). I can't remember whether the documention explicitely recommends against it, because of ink particles getting to the paper-feeding and -transporting mechanism, but I don't think so. Nevertheless you'll have to give the ink a chance to dry. The 'no'-part: as ink 'soaks' the paper, you'll mostly be disgusted with the result of printing on both sides. It can even 'show through' from the other side. With foils and transparencies the problem will most likely be, that you either use 'special' ones (more expensive but 'hold' your ink where it 'landed'), these are mostly treated on one side only, or you use normal ones, then even the writing on the upper/first side is in danger of getting blurred. Don't ask what happens if you feed this back again - mostly water(/spit) and most certainly alcohol will 'remove' the ink. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!news.uni-essen.de!spo109!not-for-mail From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniStill? Lighthouse? Date: 11 Feb 1999 10:50:31 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Lines: 28 Message-ID: <79ucln$a4a8@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <79r3v3$f04$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <36C18B34.CF547A15@NoSPAM.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: spf109.power.uni-essen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35394 TjL (luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion) wrote: : [...] : His PDF files are more complete and smaller than Distiller, which failed : horribly at some basic PDF conversions. : : $30 is a steal and a half, folks. : : : TjL, just a happy user, not a paid advocate ;-) Same goes for us. And: Frank's PStill is available for several platforms (including Linux, although still in beta there iirc) and he makes very generous 'campus-' or 'multilicense' deals. Just contact him. A fine chance to escape the Adobe distilling-(near-)monopoly for a community interested in more than MS-Windows and MacOS. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.52.4.10!news-stl.cp.verio.net!news.starnet.net!newspump.wustl.edu!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Howto to install OS4 on a Cube without a CDROM drive Date: 11 Feb 1999 15:20:35 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 17 Message-ID: <79usg3$p9f$1@unlnews.unl.edu> References: <36C2CFBE.BB2AD312@kvi.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: sting.unl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35395 In article <36C2CFBE.BB2AD312@kvi.nl> Marcel Volkerts writes: > Yesterday I got my Turbo Dimension Cube with Nextstep 3.3 preinstalled. > Previously i have been running OS4.1 on intel. Since for OS4.1 I have > the original media for both User and developer I decided to upgrade the > Cube to 4.1. But the Cube does not have a CDROM player, only a floppy. > So I NFS mounted the CDROM player of my intel bos on the Cube and ran I had problems NFS exporting CDROMS. Try copying the contents of the CDROM to some folder on the NFS server, and export that folder and try again. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!newsfeed.dpn.de!news-out1.f.gtn.com!news-in1.f.gtn.com!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!128.174.5.49!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole) Subject: NXFax modem: trouble with cover sheets X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gsblas.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:36:08 GMT Lines: 7 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35396 I am using NXFax modem and have recently noticed that the cover sheet option on the fax panel no longer is available (i.e., the radio button is not active). Any ideas why this would happen and how to fix it? Thanks in adavance for any useful comments. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!netnews.com!news.servint.com!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OmniWeb 3 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <79uti9$1a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Lines: 19 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:03:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.165 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918763420 209.212.132.165 (Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:03:40 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:03:40 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35397 comp.sys.next.hardware:36100 In <79uti9$1a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> josborn@depauw.edu wrote: > Will OmniWeb 3 run under OpenStep version 4.1? No. There was some hack to make an earlier release work under 4.1 but AFAIK it no longer works TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!howland.erols.net!panix!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax modem: trouble with cover sheets X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Lines: 21 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:08:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.165 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918763691 209.212.132.165 (Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:08:11 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:08:11 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35398 In Lars A. Stole wrote: > I am using NXFax modem and have recently noticed that the cover sheet > option on the fax panel no longer is available (i.e., the radio > button is not active). Any ideas why this would happen and how to > fix it? Is this related? http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2622.htmld/2622.html (Thanks to Rob Blessin @ BHI for informing me about this bug awhile ago! cf http://www.blackholeinc.com/specials/nxfax.html) TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!208.128.117.2!newsrelay.courtave.net!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!crcnews.unl.edu!manager From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Date: 11 Feb 1999 20:43:13 GMT Organization: University of No Learning Lines: 31 Message-ID: <79vfd1$cck@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> <6Arw2.175$nx.159578@newshog.newsread.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bigred.unl.edu X-HTML:

X-URL: http://www.binary.net/conc X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950621BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36101 comp.sys.next.software:35399 TjL (luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion) wrote: : : Note that this is NOT a recommended process. : : The heat from the laser printer will deposit toner from the already printed : side back into the NeXT printer. : : Yes it would be nice, but I would not not not do this with a NeXT printer. : : TjL : : ps -- does anyone know if this is do-able on a DeskJet without injury? : The HP Deskjet is an inkjet printer. Did you really mean LaserJet? I wonder if it would be possible to cover up the printed side with a thin peice of paper(perhaps with a weak adhesive on it) and then printing to the other side. -Josh -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1998, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted. |ess|erb|unl|u| (Oo) MYTHOS How's my posting? 1-800-DEV-NULL email: jh|e@h|ie.|.ed| /||\ NEW AEON .Sigfile freshness date: 6/30/98 "Ask Bill [Gates] why function code 6 (in QDOS and still in MS-DOS more than ten years later) ends in a dollar sign, no one in the world knows that but me" -Gary Kildall #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!208.128.117.2!newsrelay.courtave.net!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!unlnews.unl.edu!not-for-mail From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Beta Test: Samba 2.0.2 for Openstep/NEXTSTEP Date: 11 Feb 1999 20:48:18 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lines: 14 Message-ID: <79vfmi$5o2$1@unlnews.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sting.unl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35400 I've completed an initial port of Samba version 2.0.2 for OpenStep for Mach and NEXTSTEP, and would like to solicit a few volunteers for beta testing before unleashing it upon the general public. I don't plan on a testing period of more than a week or two. E-mail me or post here if you're interested. For more information about Samba, goto http://www.samba.org/ -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!xmission!news.cc.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!nntp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Howto to install OS4 on a Cube without a CDROM drive Message-ID: From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 11 Feb 99 09:21:49 MDT Reply-To: edx@cc.usu.edu References: <36C2CFBE.BB2AD312@kvi.nl> <79usg3$p9f$1@unlnews.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: asy53.xy1.usu.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35401 In <79usg3$p9f$1@unlnews.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote: > In article <36C2CFBE.BB2AD312@kvi.nl> Marcel Volkerts > writes: > > > Yesterday I got my Turbo Dimension Cube with Nextstep 3.3 preinstalled. > > Previously i have been running OS4.1 on intel. Since for OS4.1 I have > > the original media for both User and developer I decided to upgrade the > > Cube to 4.1. But the Cube does not have a CDROM player, only a floppy. > > So I NFS mounted the CDROM player of my intel bos on the Cube and ran > > I had problems NFS exporting CDROMS. Try copying the contents of the CDROM > to some folder on the NFS server, and export that folder and try again. This is interesting. I bought a slab with 3.3 on it, and upgraded it to 4.2 through an NFS mount to a CD drive on Intel with no hiccups at all. edx #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Robert Bullock" .home.com> Subject: m68K NS 3.3 : NFS browsing generates 'Workspace Manager Error' on D: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Organization: Susie Message-ID: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 Lines: 12 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:51:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.103.153 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 918777100 24.4.103.153 (Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:51:40 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:51:40 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29264 comp.sys.next.software:35402 Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? -- To reply: remove the from my email address: rcbullock@home.com But you knew that didn't you ;P #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!usc!news.service.uci.edu!usenet From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: converting Next Addressbook to MS Date: 12 Feb 1999 00:52:13 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Lines: 6 Distribution: world Message-ID: <79vtvt$jar@news.service.uci.edu> Reply-To: fliu@uci.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: r2d2.eng.uci.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35403 Is there a way to convert NeXT's addressbook files to, say, Microsoft's card files? Thanks for any info. Feng Liu UC Irvine #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New to Nextstep, some recommendations please Date: 10 Feb 1999 16:22:12 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 38 Message-ID: <79sbnk$p2j$3@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <36C08B46.EA8A4EC3@worldnet.att.NOSPAM.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo1.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35404 It is easier IMHO to connect the slab to a network.. setting up PPP is a bit to painful and not that productive to my taste.. (your effort can spend doing something like playing around with Sendmail;-) the serial port are pretty limited cannot handle high speeds. Depends what you want to do but ftp://ftp.peak.org is a wonderful resource.. underneath Lighthouse directory have alot of cool apps you can use. Also check out Tim's page.. www.peak.org/~luomat/ it got alot of tibits. good luck godwin Digger (AdrenaChrome@worldnet.att.NOSPAM.net) wrote: : Greetings gang, : Just bought a turbo slab (33 mhz 68040, 32 meg ram, 5xx meg scsi drive, : 17" fimi monitor, adb keyboard, mouse, sound box) : all it came with was nextstep 3.3. : I am new to unix, but not new to computers in general. : What are some *essential* downloadable programs I should have? (I'm : thinking some type of word processor, some kind of e.mail/net surfing : prog, etc.) : machie has no modem or cd, what kind should I buy? in general, tips are : greatly appreciated. e.mail or post here is fine (remove the nospam to : reply) : P.S. : anyone got the damn manuals scanned in or for sale?? : (no, deepspacetech.com won't sell theirs) : thanks : Digger #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uni-erlangen.de!chico.franken.de!fen!fen.baynet.de!na199 From: na199@fen.baynet.de (Henning Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can sz work in expect Date: 12 Feb 1999 07:11:26 GMT Organization: Free-Net Erlangen Nuernberg Fuerth Lines: 109 Message-ID: <7a0k6u$6j5$1@freenet-b.fen.baynet.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet-a.fen.baynet.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: freenet-b.fen.baynet.de 918803486 6757 194.95.193.11 (12 Feb 1999 07:11:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@fen.baynet.de NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Feb 1999 07:11:26 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35405 Hello! For reasons of my own I use in one slab the old NeXT-program TipTop (instead of ppp). This works (if wanted) with exp-files (program 'expect'), which takes care of the login and some other things, e.g. fetching regularly some files from faraway servers. This all works well. An example of the scripts follows at the end. What I would like and discover how to do: The script should also take care of getting the accumulating the mail (via modem) with the command sz /usr/spool/mail/xxxxx This command is ok when I type it in the shell, but not when it is called from the exp-script. Is there any chance to make this work? It has certainly something to do with the cryptic remark that 'expect' is not a shell. bye Henning ----------------Example of the script--------------------------- #!/usr/local/bin/expect -f # annex login # Telephone number to dial: set number 0123-4567890 # Remote site name: set site my.favorite-site.de # My user name: set user myname # My password: if omitted, the script will ask me. set password XXyyZZaa set timeout 5 send "at\r" send "atv1w1x4&c1&d2&k6f10\\n0+h2\r" # very modem specific ! send "ate1n1\r" expect { timeout { send_error "Modem not configured.\r\n" send_error "start TipTop again.\r\n" exit } "OK" {send_error "Modem OK.\r\n"} } set timeout 50 send_error "Dialing $number ... " for {} 4 {} { send "AT%tcbdtw$number\r" expect timeout {send_error "no connection.\r\n"} \ "NO CARRIER" {send_error "no carrier.\r\n"} \ "BUSY" {send_error "Busy. Dialin will be repeated.\r\n"} \ "CONNECT" {send_error "connected.\r\n"; break} exec sleep 1 send_error "Another time: $number ... " } exec sleep 1 set timeout 10 send_error "Logging into $site.\n\r" set timeout -1 expect "Password"; send "\r" expect "login:"; send "$user\r" expect "Password:" if {$password != ""} { send "$password\r" } send "\r" exec sleep 1 send "\n\n\r" exec sleep 1 set timeout 5 send_error "Your input!\n\r" #send "sz LA* FI* /usr/spool/mail/xxxxxx\r" # this line does not work from the script! -----------------------end of script------------------------ -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.172.3.37!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!netnews.com!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!surfnet.nl!rug.nl!not-for-mail From: Marcel Volkerts Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Howto to install OS4 on a Cube without a CDROM drive Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:44:10 +0000 Organization: KVI Lines: 58 Message-ID: <36C4140A.EE60C9C3@kvi.nl> References: <36C2CFBE.BB2AD312@kvi.nl> <79usg3$p9f$1@unlnews.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: kvip05.kvi.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------27ADD18545A18CA716D59B94" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35406 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------27ADD18545A18CA716D59B94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > In <79usg3$p9f$1@unlnews.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote: > > In article <36C2CFBE.BB2AD312@kvi.nl> Marcel Volkerts > > writes: > > > > > Yesterday I got my Turbo Dimension Cube with Nextstep 3.3 preinstalled. > > > Previously i have been running OS4.1 on intel. Since for OS4.1 I have > > > the original media for both User and developer I decided to upgrade the > > > Cube to 4.1. But the Cube does not have a CDROM player, only a floppy. > > > So I NFS mounted the CDROM player of my intel bos on the Cube and ran > > > > I had problems NFS exporting CDROMS. Try copying the contents of the CDROM > > to some folder on the NFS server, and export that folder and try again. > > This is interesting. I bought a slab with 3.3 on it, and upgraded it > to 4.2 through an NFS mount to a CD drive on Intel with no hiccups at all. > > edx I took apart cube and intel box last night, connected the SCSI cdrom to the cube, booted from flop and had a freshly installed system some time afterwards. I'll try again to NFS mount the CDROM player on the intel to install some and apps and let you know what happens. bye, Marcel --------------27ADD18545A18CA716D59B94 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="volkerts.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Marcel Volkerts Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="volkerts.vcf" begin:vcard n:Volkerts;Marcel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:KVI;Experimental Nuclear Physics adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:volkerts@kvi.nl note;quoted-printable:Phone +31 50 3632054=0D=0AFax +31 50 3634003 x-mozilla-cpt:;-18016 fn:Marcel Volkerts end:vcard --------------27ADD18545A18CA716D59B94-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Writing NeXT CDs? Date: 9 Feb 1999 22:56:07 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 26 Message-ID: <79qee7$mhv$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <79o32n$r9j@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35407 In article <79o32n$r9j@chronicle.concentric.net>, stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) writes: Given that I have eXTRACD and Toast (and Adaptec Easy CD Creator), how can I create a NeXTstep file system CDROM? In other words, what am I still lacking? If you want to make a CD-to-CD copy of a NEXTSTEP-formatted disk, you need to make a raw copy. The Adaptec EZ-CDC software won't do it because it depends on the ability of Windows to recognize the filesystem as a drive letter, and I believe Toast for the Mac has similar requirements. One package I know can successfully burn a NEXTSTEP filesystem is from www.goldenhawk.com. The author of this apparently wrote much of the CD-R FAQ and a demo versions is available of his program that'll burn at 1x. If you want to make a CD of new data (rather than copy an existing disk), you'll need to create a < 640 MB filesystem as the first partition on a hard drive and use dd on the live partition of the raw device (/dev/rsdXh where X is the unit number) to create a raw image. You should then be able to feed this to the program.... [ Rename the image file as .raw, probably? ] -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!news.uni-essen.de!spo109!not-for-mail From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? Date: 12 Feb 1999 09:05:36 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Lines: 25 Message-ID: <7a0qt0$a4a29@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> <6Arw2.175$nx.159578@newshog.newsread.com> <79vfd1$cck@crcnis3.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: spf109.power.uni-essen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36112 comp.sys.next.software:35408 Josh Hesse (00093182@bigred.unl.edu) wrote: : [...] : I wonder if it would be possible to cover up the printed side with a : thin peice of paper(perhaps with a weak adhesive on it) and then printing : to the other side. : You would have to be very, very careful with it, as there is a lot of heat and if anything 'melts down' to the printer or catches fire, it would be very expensive 'double-sided' printing! I would recommend against that, too, but of course, if you can prevent that the second papersheet slips or that there are thermal problems or that the paper becomes too heavy, thick, or stiff, or 'loses grip', you would be safe. The toner would be encapsulated and the printer wouldn't really know about the two sheets appearing as one. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!news.uni-essen.de!spo109!not-for-mail From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: m68K NS 3.3 : NFS browsing generates 'Workspace Manager Error' on D: Followup-To: comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 12 Feb 1999 09:34:25 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Lines: 27 Message-ID: <7a0sj1$a4a30@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> NNTP-Posting-Host: spf109.power.uni-essen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29267 comp.sys.next.software:35409 Robert Bullock" .home.com> (rcbullock@ Reply-To: vkyr@lavielle.com NNTP-Posting-Host: vkyr-home.lav.de X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.96 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35410 Hi, I've tried out the NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.zip stuff from Yiannis Michopoulos and relized that it doesn't work under my NT and NeXTstation ethernet connection. NT side test print jobs never leave the NT PrinterManager Spooler for the setup remote NeXTstation NeXT laserprinter. With other words, the NeXT Local_Printer queue is always empty nothing arrives through my little net (?). But I can access (via ping, ftp and telnet) my NeXTstation from the NT computer without problems. It seems that the NT setups I made for TCP/IP printing to my NeXT's IP-address and the Local_Printer NeXT printer queue as printername (queue) doesn't work at all? Does somebody have an Idea what might wents wrong here? Are there beside the installation of the MS TCP/IP printer support services and the descriptions in the NeXTprinterWNT40.README other things to be enabled on the NT or NeXTstep side? I use NT 40 with Service Pack 3 and on my NeXTstation NeXTstep 3.3 with an original NeXTlaser printer. Both computers are connected via a crossed Ethernet cable and I have setup the NT TCP/IP DNS stuff. I can ping from one computer to the other and can correctly access the NeXTstation from the NT computer via ftp and telnet. Does somebody succeeded with NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.zip or can at least tell me how to get the printing from NT over the ethernet to a NeXTcomputer managed? I know that most of you will now say that I should try using Samba instead, but if the above mentioned procedure doesn't work, I doubt that using Samba will work correctly for my NT/NeXTstep connectivity. Thanks in advance Valentino -- Valentino Kyriakides Email: vkyr@lavielle.com (Sorry no NeXTmail here) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can sz work in expect Date: 12 Feb 1999 16:39:21 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 25 Message-ID: <7a1lfp$3qo$2@news.spacelab.net> References: <7a0k6u$6j5$1@freenet-b.fen.baynet.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35411 na199@fen.baynet.de (Henning Heinze) wrote: [ ... ] >The script should also take care of getting the >accumulating the mail (via modem) with the command > >sz /usr/spool/mail/xxxxx > >This command is ok when I type it in the shell, but not >when it is called from the exp-script. > >Is there any chance to make this work? >It has certainly something to do with the cryptic >remark that 'expect' is not a shell. Exactly; expect cannot run commands because it is not a shell. What you need to do is write a shell script that runs TipTop and then runs this sz command. That's assuming TipTop exits after the connection is made; if not, you probably can't do what you want.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feeder.qis.net!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Robert Bullock" .home.com> Subject: Re: m68K NS 3.3 : NFS browsing generates 'Workspace Manager Error' on D: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> <7a0sj1$a4a30@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> Organization: Susie Message-ID: <01be56e2$5eec61a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 Lines: 27 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:47:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.103.153 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 918863253 24.4.103.153 (Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:47:33 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:47:33 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29268 comp.sys.next.software:35412 H.-R. Oberhage wrote in article <7a0sj1$a4a30@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>... > Robert Bullock" .home.com> (rcbullock@ : Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > : > : When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > : server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and > : back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > : physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition > : through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? > > Maybe: write-access: If I remember correctly, there was an error in NS > (still in 3.3???), that the workspace-manager crashed when trying to > access a(ny) filesystem as root, where it couldn't write - it wants > to drop some '.dir.wmd'-file or something like that in the directory, > and can't understand, that this isn't possible (as root). > This doesn't hold true for 'normal' (=non-root) users. All the permissions are the same for C: D: and E: and show as such in the Workspace browser. I got no clues on it yet. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New to Nextstep, some recommendations please Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 10 Feb 1999 01:34:18 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <36C08B46.EA8A4EC3@worldnet.att.NOSPAM.net> Message-ID: <19990209203418.28772.00001066@ng-ch1.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35413 You want to take a look at: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Specifically, the page of must-have apps. (Opener.app, OmniWeb, Fiend, PageChain, RZToDoList, PDFView, etc.) William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news-fra.pop.de!news.seicom.net!not-for-mail From: frank@this.NOSPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniStill? Lighthouse? Date: 13 Feb 1999 00:59:56 GMT Organization: www.this.net Lines: 28 Message-ID: <7a2iqc$rdt$1@news.seicom.net> References: <79r3v3$f04$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <36C18B34.CF547A15@NoSPAM.columbia.edu> <79ucln$a4a8@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: apollo.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35414 phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) wrote: >: TjL, just a happy user, not a paid advocate ;-) > >Same goes for us. And: Frank's PStill is available for several platforms >(including Linux, although still in beta there iirc) and he makes very >generous 'campus-' or 'multilicense' deals. > >Just contact him. > >A fine chance to escape the Adobe distilling-(near-)monopoly for a community >interested in more than MS-Windows and MacOS. Folks, I am very happy to see this! PStill is far from dead, the Windows release is forthcoming hopefully RSN and I will continue work on the NS versions (in fact most features will get into the NS versions first as development is much faster on NS/OS :-)). As you could see from the pstill web page I declared the Mac OS X port as 'canceled'. At the moment it looks like at least a command line version for Mac OS X Server will become available (free for registered user of the NS version), and *maybe* a full GUI release will come out of it. The most severe problem is my lack of a G3 Mac to do the development on. This may change in a few months, however I am still watching the marketing moves of Apple. - Frank #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!news.new-york.net!uunet!ffx.uu.net!in5.uu.net!news.winternet.com!beginning-of-email From: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Writing NeXT CDs? Date: 13 Feb 1999 01:22:43 GMT Organization: TJP Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <7a2k53$3so$1@blackice.winternet.com> References: <79o32n$r9j@chronicle.concentric.net> <79qee7$mhv$1@news.spacelab.net> Reply-To: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-67-86.dialup.winternet.com X-Trace: blackice.winternet.com 918868963 3992 204.246.67.86 (13 Feb 1999 01:22:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@winternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Feb 1999 01:22:43 GMT X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.96 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35415 You (Charles W. Swiger ) wrote in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 9 Feb 1999 22:56:07 GMT: > If you want to make a CD-to-CD copy of a NEXTSTEP-formatted disk, you need to > make a raw copy. The Adaptec EZ-CDC software won't do it because it depends > on the ability of Windows to recognize the filesystem as a drive letter, and > I believe Toast for the Mac has similar requirements. Another Windows app I have found useful in byte-for-byte CD-to-CD copies is GEAR's CD-Replicator. It copies just about any kind of CD, including NeXT's, perfectly. --Chris ************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@winternet.com MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK "Sacred cows make the best hamburger." --Mark Twain #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.northeast.verio.net!news.new-york.net!uunet!ffx.uu.net!in5.uu.net!news.winternet.com!beginning-of-email From: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: File transfer between a PC and a NeXT Cube? Date: 13 Feb 1999 01:28:34 GMT Organization: TJP Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <7a2kg2$3so$2@blackice.winternet.com> References: <79ra0u$qav$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Reply-To: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-67-86.dialup.winternet.com X-Trace: blackice.winternet.com 918869314 3992 204.246.67.86 (13 Feb 1999 01:28:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@winternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Feb 1999 01:28:34 GMT X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.96 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35416 comp.sys.next.misc:29269 You (revaaron@hotmail.com ) wrote in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on Wed, 10 Feb 1999 06:46:55 GMT: > Good day, > > Has anyone an easy way to transfer files between a 68040 NeXT Cube and a PC? There are much more elegant solutions, but if you're not ready to dive into samba, nfs, etc., then simple ftp is the easiest way to go. Assuming both boxes have unique ip addresses, you can just ftp to the NeXT from the PC using the DOS command-line or any Windows ftp client. --Chris ************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@winternet.com MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK "Sacred cows make the best hamburger." --Mark Twain #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!remarQ73!supernews.com!remarQ.com!remarQ69!not-for-mail From: tec_zac@deletethisbit.hotmail.com (Zach W.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Web Browser Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 05:50:44 GMT Organization: A Southern Californian School District Lines: 12 Message-ID: <36c51091.5222252@news.dconn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.211.198.72 X-Trace: 918885001 0QKGEUJ.OC648CFD3C usenet80.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@remarQ.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35417 I use a black Turbo NeXT slab running NEXTSTEP 3.0(it may be 3.3; I don't know...) I'm looking for a web browser to use on it. I would appreciate it if someone could tell me where I could find and download the latest and greatest browser for this platform.Please e- mail me if you know anything about this. Thanks, Zach W. NeXT Addict tec_zac@deletethisbit.hotmail.com (P.S. Please remove "deletethisbit."when responding) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!isdnet!news-ge.switch.ch!cern.ch!news From: root@nextatd01.cern.ch (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Writing NeXT CDs? Date: 10 Feb 1999 01:35:32 GMT Organization: CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Lines: 45 Message-ID: <79qnp4$hns$2@sunnews.cern.ch> References: <79o32n$r9j@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextatd01.cern.ch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sunnews.cern.ch 918610532 18172 (None) 137.138.89.120 X-Complaints-To: news@sunnews.cern.ch X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Cc: rameri@cs.uwa.edu.au Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35418 I just burned 4 NS cds. all readable. i used linux/xcdroast as sw plextor 12x8 scsi as hw the idea is to do a raw copy cheers In Rameri Salama wrote: > On 8 Feb 1999, Stan Jirman wrote: > > > I used eXTRACD to create a CD image. Toast can nicely recognize it if I use > > 1k or 2k blocks, but then mounts it and thus I lose all the info. When I use > > normal Toast to write the CD, with "Mac filenames" I get long names but > > everything is lowercase, I lose Unix file permissions, and all files starting > > with a period are trashed. > > I haven't met eXTRACD, but the process that I use is similar and it seems > to work. I use mkisofs (with "-r" for the RockRidge extensions) to create > the CD image file. I then stick the image file on my DOS partition, boot > into Win95, burn the image onto a CD with EasyCD Pro 95 (also from > Adaptec). > > This process works quite well, but the CDs burnt this way don't mount > under win95 with the same file names. If I need CDs of my NeXT partition > that can be read under win95, I generate a .tar.gz of the directory tree > that I'm interested in, copy to the DOS partition, use WINZIP (a fine > win95 application) to extract the .tar.gz, which I then burn onto CD using > EasyCD Pro 95 with the Joliet filename scheme (DOS and Win95 (64 > character), unicode character set). > > Rameri > > PS. If file permissions are important for you and you wish to preserve > them when you burn your CD use the -R flag with mkisofs, which can be > found at > ftp://ftp.peak.org/next-ftp/next/apps/utils/cdrom/mkisofs.1.11.NIHS.bs.tar.gz > > > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!feeder.qis.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!monger.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Web Browser X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <36c51091.5222252@news.dconn.com> Lines: 28 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:33:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.222 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 918955984 209.212.132.222 (Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:33:04 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:33:04 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35419 In <36c51091.5222252@news.dconn.com> Zach W. wrote: > I use a black Turbo NeXT slab running NEXTSTEP 3.0(it may be 3.3; I > don't know...) I'm looking for a web browser to use on it. > I would appreciate it if someone could tell me where I could find and > download the latest and greatest browser for this platform.Please e- > mail me if you know anything about this. 3.0 vs 3.3 is a world of difference. Goto Workspace Manager and click on 'Info' menu item and then 'Info Panel' and it should tell you the release number. (for those minimalists, try 'cat cat /usr/lib/NextStep/software_version' but I'm not sure how long that has been there) 3.3 can use OmniWeb 2.5 or 2.7beta 3.0 can use..... well probably lynx :-( OmniWeb 3 will only work for OS 4.2 TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!blackbush.xlink.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.89.75.15!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <631918363637@digifix.com> Date: 14 Feb 1999 04:44:27 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 342 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <15546918968424@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:118706 comp.sys.next.announce:4903 comp.sys.next.hardware:36131 comp.sys.next.software:35420 comp.sys.next.misc:29273 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32900 comp.sys.next.bugs:5030 comp.sys.next.programmer:30346 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Peanuts Archive http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/Rhapsody http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/MacOSX http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/WebObjects http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData The Peanuts-Archive is the premier site in Europe and mirrored in whole or parts all over the world. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Site http://www.apple.com/macosx/ Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Developer Site http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server/ Apple Computer's WebObjects Site http://www.apple.com/webobjects/ Mac OS X Server Developer Documentation http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosxserver/macosxserver.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Writing NeXT CDs? Date: 10 Feb 1999 02:25:29 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 16 Message-ID: <918613529.564112@watserv5.uwaterloo.ca> References: <79o32n$r9j@chronicle.concentric.net> <79qee7$mhv$1@news.spacelab.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watserv5.uwaterloo.ca Cache-Post-Path: watserv5.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35421 In article <79qee7$mhv$1@news.spacelab.net>, Charles W. Swiger wrote: >If you want to make a CD-to-CD copy of a NEXTSTEP-formatted disk, you need to >make a raw copy. The Adaptec EZ-CDC software won't do it because it depends >on the ability of Windows to recognize the filesystem as a drive letter, Huh? CD Copier Deluxe (as part of Easy CD Creator Deluxe 3.5) has no problems. I really have to check out the Goldenhawk stuff. I keep hearing great things about it but have just been too lazy to look further. :( -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news3.cac.psu.edu!usenet From: Jason Valentine Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apache 1.3.4 binary for NS3.3 Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:50:15 -0500 Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 6 Message-ID: <36C101F7.64D8C9A4@psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jrv120.rh.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35422 Does anybody have a precompiled binary of Apache 1.3.4 for NeXTSTEP 3.3 on NeXT black hardware? e-mail: root@ejv108.rh.psu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OmniWeb 3 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:38:50 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 13 Message-ID: <79uti9$1a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.120.3.207 X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Feb 11 15:38:50 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x11.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 163.120.3.207 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35423 comp.sys.next.hardware:36132 Will OmniWeb 3 run under OpenStep version 4.1? Jon The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!gatech!GT-News!not-for-mail From: acarver@hog.mirc.gatech.edu (Alexander Gilman Carver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing to remote printer Date: 11 Feb 1999 11:43:57 -0500 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta GA, USA Lines: 21 Message-ID: <79v1cd$6ch@hog.mirc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: hog.mirc.gatech.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35424 Pardon me if this has been covered before, but I searched through the FAQs and archives of this group. Anyway, I have a NeXTstation (black slab) with OpenStep 3. I'm trying to set up printers which are on other machines and available by lp. Curently, I set one up using the NetInfo manager. I set the remote queue and remote host parameters (plus all the other parameters) as needed. The printer appears in the Printer Manager and, from the PM I can print the test page. My problem is that the printer doesn't show up in any of my applications. For example, if I want to print a copy of the current shell window, choosing Print gives me the print dialog box but it says "No printer selected". So, how do I select the printer so that the apps can see it? BTW, from the command line in a shell, I can send jobs to the printer just using lp, plus the printer manager sees the queue just fine. I simply can't configure the printer using the PM's modify button nor make it appear in any of my apps. Thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-hh.maz.net!desire.lavielle.com!news From: "Valentino Kyriakides" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Writing NeXT CDs? Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:53:31 +0100 Organization: Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co Lines: 35 Message-ID: <79v92e$mal@desire.lavielle.com> References: <79o32n$r9j@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lispworks.lavielle.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35425 There is a commercial NeXTstep/OpenStep cdwriter application available which is called CDDesigner.app. It can be found on the german peanuts server http://www.peanuts.org or the german programmers homepage http://www.ip-service.com/gehle CDDesigner 1.4.1 supports Yamaha, Sony, Philips and some other compatible cdwriters. However, since I use a Teac cdwriter, which isn't so far supported, I can't tell you much about the quality of this software. But it seems to offer a nice and easy to use NS UI. Maybe it does what you need under NS/OS? Stan Jirman wrote in message <79o32n$r9j@chronicle.concentric.net>... >Given that I have eXTRACD and Toast (and Adaptec Easy CD Creator), how can I >create a NeXTstep file system CDROM? In other words, what am I still lacking? > >I used eXTRACD to create a CD image. Toast can nicely recognize it if I use >1k or 2k blocks, but then mounts it and thus I lose all the info. When I use >normal Toast to write the CD, with "Mac filenames" I get long names but >everything is lowercase, I lose Unix file permissions, and all files starting >with a period are trashed. > >Any help is appreciated. >- Stan >-- > >Nature Travelogues: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~stanj/Travel >NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!feeder.qis.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!pitt.edu!not-for-mail From: Stefanie Bruninghaus Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:31:18 -0500 Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 22 Message-ID: <36C33006.4663@pitt.edu> References: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> <6Arw2.175$nx.159578@newshog.newsread.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: adson.lrdc.pitt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.07 9000/715) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36141 comp.sys.next.software:35426 TjL wrote: > > Note that this is NOT a recommended process. > > The heat from the laser printer will deposit toner from the already printed > side back into the NeXT printer. > > Yes it would be nice, but I would not not not do this with a NeXT printer. We did this double-printing, and broke a NeXT Laser Printer. This was a couple of years ago, and I don't remember what the exact problem was, but it was a pretty expensive repair. So, definitely not recommended. -- Steffi. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefanie Bruninghaus Learning Research and Development Center Mail: steffi+@pitt.edu University of Pittsburgh Web: www.pitt.edu/~steffi 3939 O'Hara Street Phone: (412) 624 - 6748 Pittsburgh, PA 15260 -- USA Fax: (412) 624 - 9149 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Writing NeXT CDs? Date: 10 Feb 1999 04:40:31 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 26 Message-ID: <79r2jv$a39$1@news.digifix.com> References: <79o32n$r9j@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35427 On 02/08/99, Scott Hess wrote: >In article <79o32n$r9j@chronicle.concentric.net>, > stanj@caffeineSoft.NOSPAM.com (Stan Jirman) writes: >I've found that the Adaptec software that came with my CD-R isn't >terribly useful. I have never successfully convinced it to burn a >pre-existing image, and I have no interests in burning a Windows-only >CD. So out it goes. I use mkisofs (but will now have to go and grab the stuff you suggest :-) I create a .iso image, and then FTP it to the Windows NT box with Easy Cd Creator on it and then "Write from Image" to write the CD to the drive. Done it a couple dozen times without any problem.. -- Scott Anguish Stepwise - OpenStep/Rhapsody Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!netnews.com!news-feed.fnsi.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!nntp.earthlink.net!posted-from-earthlink!not-for-mail From: cdbgraf@earthlink.net (christopher borden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniStill? Lighthouse? Date: 10 Feb 1999 05:03:31 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ELN-Date: 10 Feb 1999 05:03:31 GMT X-ELN-Insert-Date: Tue Feb 9 21:05:08 1999 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Lines: 12 Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: cdbgraf@earthlink.net (christopher borden) NNTP-Posting-Host: ip234.an5-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net Message-ID: <79r3v3$f04$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35428 anybody know if above ps-to-pdf converter is available? maybe even part of the suite of free apps from lighthouse? have they disappeared even more than before? link from omnigroup gets "connection timed out, cannot load." thanks, chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: headless black color systems Date: 14 Feb 1999 09:37:28 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 9 Message-ID: <7a71ko$la3@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35429 Hi, Can NeXT Color systems run headless without specical terminators for the monitor? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.fast.net!news.pgh.net!not-for-mail From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? Date: 14 Feb 1999 19:39:13 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Lines: 47 Message-ID: <7a78p1$mc3$1@dropit.pgh.net> References: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> <6Arw2.175$nx.159578@newshog.newsread.com> <79uc4g$a4a7@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: venetia.pgh.pa.us X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36150 comp.sys.next.software:35430 I missed the original post but I do duplex printing all the time on standard laser printer paper from the office. Agreed, you have to let one side dry before you print on the other, but beyond that I have had absolutely no problems with print-through or any similar problems. I am using a 690 series printer on a PC. Bob phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) wrote: > TjL (luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion) wrote: > : [...] > : ps -- does anyone know if this is do-able on a DeskJet without injury? > > As far as I can tell: yes and no! > > Explanation: I've never experienced a problem in doing so with (older) > DeskJets (500, 510, 600C and the like). I can't remember whether the > documention explicitely recommends against it, because of ink particles > getting to the paper-feeding and -transporting mechanism, but I don't > think so. > > Nevertheless you'll have to give the ink a chance to dry. > > The 'no'-part: as ink 'soaks' the paper, you'll mostly be disgusted with > the result of printing on both sides. It can even 'show through' from > the other side. With foils and transparencies the problem will most > likely be, that you either use 'special' ones (more expensive but > 'hold' your ink where it 'landed'), these are mostly treated on one > side only, or you use normal ones, then even the writing on the > upper/first side is in danger of getting blurred. Don't ask what > happens if you feed this back again - mostly water(/spit) and most > certainly alcohol will 'remove' the ink. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 724-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!nntp.flash.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Daydream key mappings and a telnet program for Mac Date: 14 Feb 1999 12:30:52 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 30 Message-ID: <7a7bps$ln@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35431 Hi, Having figured out to use MacTCP to set up a cube running Daydream on my DSL network... I'm finding that Netscape 3.0 runs pretty smoothly. But I've found two concerning features : What is the meta-key (that key that looks like a %) I've tried escape and escape-shift which don't work. Also, there is no tilda key. I've tried various keyboard layouts, but to no avail. Is there a Mac program which might be used to assign a keystroke combination for these keys? Finally, I've been using NCSA Telnet to telnet to other machines, but when I cat a file from the UNIX command line it takes a long time for the text to go by because the screen refreshes after each line of text is displayed. Can someone recommend a robost telnet program for Mac 7.5.6 ? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.ndh.net!joerg.spix From: joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Spix) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: headless black color systems Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:30:02 +0100 Organization: Customer of NDH Netzwerkdienste Hoeger GmbH Lines: 16 Message-ID: <199902142330028315@port171.telelev.net> References: <7a71ko$la3@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.227.39.171 X-Trace: public.ndh.net 919031362 517 195.227.39.171 (14 Feb 1999 22:29:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ndh.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Feb 1999 22:29:22 GMT X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.2b3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35432 Emmett McLean wrote: > Hi, > > Can NeXT Color systems run headless without > specical terminators for the monitor? Yes, no problem. You don't need any terminators. But you probably want to cover the monitor connector to avoid shortening pins by accident... Joerg -- (joerg.spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!not-for-mail From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Writing NeXT CDs? Date: 14 Feb 1999 23:51:15 GMT Organization: Peanuts NEXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody/MacOS-X Service Site Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: <7a7nhj$h6d$1@peanuts2.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <79o32n$r9j@chronicle.concentric.net> <79r2jv$a39$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: peanuts2.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35433 sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: > > I use mkisofs (but will now have to go and grab the stuff you suggest > :-) > > I create a .iso image, and then FTP it to the Windows NT box with > Easy Cd Creator on it and then "Write from Image" to write the CD to > the drive. > > Done it a couple dozen times without any problem.. > We had the same problem for the Peanuts-CDs. I found out, that the ISO format isn't too suitable for Windows, because Windows just doesn't like RockRidge. I once was able to build a CD with RR extensions _and_ Joliet format. Therefore the CD was usable under NEXTSTEP _and_ Windows in full mode. Sadly enough, this master didn't went into production and after many retries I couldn't figure out again how I did it, because it was just suprise that one master showd this feature. I even don't remember which software I used for this special master, but it must have been either WinOnCD or CDDesigner. Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.peanuts.org/ Peanuts-Archive Admin scholz@peanuts.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feeder.qis.net!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!monger.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> <6Arw2.175$nx.159578@newshog.newsread.com> <79uc4g$a4a7@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> <7a78p1$mc3$1@dropit.pgh.net> Lines: 24 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:07:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.182 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 919040879 209.212.132.182 (Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:07:59 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:07:59 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36153 comp.sys.next.software:35434 In <7a78p1$mc3$1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote: > I missed the original post but I do duplex printing all the time on > standard laser printer paper from the office. Agreed, you have to > let one side dry before you print on the other, but beyond that I > have had absolutely no problems with print-through or any similar > problems. I am using a 690 series printer on a PC. The original post was regarding a NeXT laser printer. The paper is heated, so even if it is allowed to "cool" some of the toner can be heated off the page and into the printer. To do this properly would require a different printer that was designed to do this. TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### From: ian@nyro.com (I.H.Stewart) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:19:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <19990210061703.nothere@postoffice.net> Subject: Samba configs - please Organization: NYRO Technix - Makers of NYRO-SPACE & Mind. X-NewsReader: Emissary News v2.00.047, by Attachmate Corp. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.239.200.76 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.239.200.76 X-Trace: 10 Feb 1999 06:40:31 -0800, 209.239.200.76 Lines: 8 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.63.224.240 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.210.46.218!news-west.eli.net!news1.jps.net!209.239.200.76 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32906 comp.sys.next.misc:29276 comp.sys.next.software:35435 Need some sample samba.conf that show file sharing and printing to NLP for my Win95 clients. Mine is not working and I would love something to compare against. ih #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Writing NeXT CDs? Date: 15 Feb 1999 04:15:31 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 38 Message-ID: <7a8713$77f$1@news.digifix.com> References: <79o32n$r9j@chronicle.concentric.net> <79r2jv$a39$1@news.digifix.com> <7a7nhj$h6d$1@peanuts2.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: <7a7nhj$h6d$1@peanuts2.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35436 On 02/14/99, Bernhard Scholz wrote: >sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: >> >> I use mkisofs (but will now have to go and grab the stuff you suggest >> :-) >> >> I create a .iso image, and then FTP it to the Windows NT box with >> Easy Cd Creator on it and then "Write from Image" to write the CD to >> the drive. >> >> Done it a couple dozen times without any problem.. >> >We had the same problem for the Peanuts-CDs. I found out, that the >ISO format isn't too suitable for Windows, because Windows just doesn't >like RockRidge. I once was able to build a CD with RR extensions _and_ >Joliet format. Therefore the CD was usable under NEXTSTEP _and_ Windows >in full mode. I went and got the software that Scott Hess suggested (mkhybrid) and compiled it, and backed-up Stepwise to an image using the same flags that I did on mkisofs (I THINK) and I got a result that was very browseable on Winblows (after I burned the CD using CD-Creator from the .iso file I moved over from DR2) -- Scott Anguish Stepwise - OpenStep/Rhapsody Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: revaaron@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: File transfer between a PC and a NeXT Cube? Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 06:46:55 GMT Organization: Your Basement Lines: 15 Message-ID: <79ra0u$qav$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.177.135.21 X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Feb 10 06:46:55 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x11.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 216.177.135.21 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35437 comp.sys.next.misc:29277 Good day, Has anyone an easy way to transfer files between a 68040 NeXT Cube and a PC? I can do this under Linux or Windows 98, preferably Windows, simply because I am stuck with a winmodem. Can this be achieved through ethernet, and if so, how? I'm pretty new to networking, so forgive my ignorance. I'd appreciate an email reply as I don't frequent these newsgroups. Thanks in advance! Aaron -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!postman+ From: AJ Megacz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DPS vs NeWS Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:02:38 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.cmu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: bb3.andrew.cmu.edu 918630312 7742 128.2.10.101 (10 Feb 1999 07:05:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: postman+netnews@andrew.cmu.edu@bb3.andrew.cmu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Feb 1999 07:05:12 GMT X-Added: With Flames (outnews v2.6) X-Sender: megacz@WINTERMUTE.RES.CMU.EDU Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35438 Hey, can anybody give me a good idea what are the differences between DPS and NeWS? I just read the NeWS book and it sounds fantastic (too bad it flopped). Also, I hear DPS is a resolution-independent (ie vector-based, not pixel-based) graphics model -- but what if you *want* pixel-exactness for aliasing reasons? (fe, doing your own antialiasing) - aj --- "Nobody has any 'Rights'. We are entitled only to Liberties" Adam Megacz #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!nyd.news.ans.net!znr.news.ans.net!news.chips.ibm.com!newsfeed.btv.ibm.com!rtpnews.raleigh.ibm.com!not-for-mail From: Henry Koplien Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Writing NeXT CDs? Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:09:21 +0100 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Lines: 17 Distribution: comp Message-ID: <36C919A1.167E@de.ibm.com> References: <79o32n$r9j@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mc03.boeblingen.de.ibm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; AIX 1) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35439 Stan Jirman wrote: > > Not the original topic, but is anybody out there who has created a 2k boot block for burning bootable CDs??? (That works...) Henry -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany \|/ voice : +49-7031-16-3516 o(O O)o fax : +49-7031-16-3328 \^/ -------------- Ihh-Mehl: Koplien@de.IBM.com --ooOo---(_)---oOoo--- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:20:52 +0100 From: Sean Hill X-Sender: shill@cisun5000.unil.ch Subject: mmltomif for FrameMaker 3.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.223.27.7 X-Trace: 16 Feb 1999 10:20:56 +0100, 130.223.27.7 Lines: 21 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!cisun5000.unil.ch!cisun5000!shill Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35440 Hello, I'm trying to use fbib with FrameMaker 3.2/Intel and having some problems with mmltomif. Does anyone know where I can get a working copy of mmltomif? localhost% ./mmltomif ./mmltomif: Cannot proceed because /LocalApps/FrameMaker.app/fminit2.0/fminit2.0 does not exist or is unreadable. Thanks very much for any advice, assistance, mmltomif binary... Cheers, Sean shill@iphysiol.unil.ch.gov remove gov #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!sun4nl!212.206.254.12.MISMATCH!not-for-mail From: Annard Brouwer Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Dots & eXTRAPRINT Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:08:10 +0100 Organization: WebWare Corp. (mobilae) Lines: 9 Message-ID: <36C9B40A.1D6C9CDB@webwarecorp.com> References: <7aac74$dmf$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Reply-To: annard@webwarecorp.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ns2.knoware.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: zonnetje.NL.net 919188548 4135 195.64.32.43 (16 Feb 1999 18:09:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@nl.uu.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Feb 1999 18:09:08 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,nl,de,es,af Cache-Post-Path: ns2.knoware.nl!unknown@dynaisdn-232.knoware.nl X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.2.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36171 comp.sys.next.software:35441 josborn@depauw.edu wrote: > > Does anyone know how to get a license string for Dots or eXTRAPRINT. The > people listed in the documentation are not responding to e-mail > Try john@webwarecorp.com for extraprint and mention my name... It's not sold anymore. Annard #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!chico.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: josborn@depauw.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Dots & eXTRAPRINT Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:56:23 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 14 Message-ID: <7aac74$dmf$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.120.3.207 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Feb 15 23:56:23 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x2.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 163.120.3.207 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36174 comp.sys.next.software:35442 Does anyone know how to get a license string for Dots or eXTRAPRINT. The people listed in the documentation are not responding to e-mail Jon The cure for ignorance is information. The cure for dumbness is a voice. The cure for stupidity is death. Go and cure what ails you. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!jumpnet.com!not-for-mail From: gbarnes@jump.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: Software from all Manufacturers 8556 Date: 15 Feb 1999 22:20:30 GMT Organization: Jump Point Communications, Inc. Lines: 3 Message-ID: <7aa6je$e2p$113@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.8.41.232 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35443 Want to buy any quantity of software from any major manufacturer. Microsoft, Corel, Lotus, Symantec, Adobe, Novell etc. If you have product to sell, please let me know. Large or small quantity. Please call Gayle at (512) 248-8848 or e-mail me at gbarnes@jump.net eycyqxouoybowmkguveuzdwcyyppqmpzjumdyljdeilbgrrlxoyijegjwyckhomductyluyldxijmqzvqoeznd #################################################################### From: Rainer Frohnhoefer Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:11:01 +0100 Organization: IBM GS Corp. Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en NNTP-Posting-Host: 139.92.5.190 X-Trace: 16 Feb 1999 20:22:33 GMT, 139.92.5.190 X-Notice: Items posted that violate the IBM.NET Acceptable Use Policy X-Notice: should be reported to postmaster@ibm.net X-Complaints-To: postmaster@ibm.net Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.us.ibm.net!ibm.net!news3.us.ibm.net!hystery.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de!not-for-mail Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36176 comp.sys.next.software:35444 Lee Altenberg wrote: NIXSPAM> NIXSPAM> I would like to print on both sides of the paper NIXSPAM> with my NeXT Laser Printer to save file space. NIXSPAM> It seems that this would be physically possible NIXSPAM> by turning the sheets over and running them back NIXSPAM> through the printer. However, I need a way of NIXSPAM> first printing the odd-numbered pages, and then NIXSPAM> printing in reverse order the even-numbered NIXSPAM> pages. Now, this should not be all that NIXSPAM> difficult a program to write --- but has NIXSPAM> anyone ever written such a program for NIXSPAM> NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP? Whether you're going to print double-sided, there's still the option to put two PS pages on one sheet of paper. I don't know if pstools can do it, but quarto definitely can. Look for Quarto at the peanuts archive, it should be on peak, too. -- "To conserve energy we will temporarily switch off the light at the end of the tunnel" (I don't employ for my speaker) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!208.134.241.18!newsfeed.cwix.com!144.212.100.101!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!news.stanford.edu!nntp.stanford.edu!elaine21.Stanford.EDU!rmj From: "Roger M. Jones" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: SCSI Compatibility Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:33:57 -0800 Lines: 12 Sender: rmj@elaine21.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: elaine21.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36177 comp.sys.next.software:35445 Am about to install Openstep 4.2 on my Dell PC. A supported SCSI is Adaptec AHA-2940UW and as I have AHA-2940U2W I am wondering whether or not this is also supported (I am hoping there is not a big difference between them). Anyone installed with an Adaptec AHA-2940U2W? -Roger Jones (rmj@leland.stanford.edu) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.fast.net!news.pgh.net!not-for-mail From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? Date: 16 Feb 1999 21:40:40 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: <7acoko$qe1$1@dropit.pgh.net> References: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> <6Arw2.175$nx.159578@newshog.newsread.com> <79uc4g$a4a7@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> <7a78p1$mc3$1@dropit.pgh.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: venetia.pgh.pa.us X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36178 comp.sys.next.software:35446 Not only did I miss the original post but I missed the title as well. However, I HAVE printed duplex on a NeXT printer and have had no problems of which I am aware. That doesn't mean there aren't any, just that I haven't noticed any, and this is over about six years or so and several print cartridges. Bob me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote: > I missed the original post but I do duplex printing all the time on > standard laser printer paper from the office. Agreed, you have to > let one side dry before you print on the other, but beyond that I > have had absolutely no problems with print-through or any similar > problems. I am using a 690 series printer on a PC. > > Bob > ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 724-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.nsc,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon,comp.sys.psion,comp.sys.psion.announce,comp.sys.psion.apps,comp.sys.psion.comm,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,comp.sys.psion.programmer Subject: cmsg cancel <13290493-1702990125000001@ccas11-sli46.t-net.net.ve> Control: cancel <13290493-1702990125000001@ccas11-sli46.t-net.net.ve> Date: 17 Feb 1999 05:23:47 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: 13290493@geocities.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.cwix.com!158.43.192.17!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!news-lond.gip.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news-dc.gip.net!news-fw.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news01.t-net.net.ve!ccas11-sli46.t-net.net.ve!user X-Original-Subject: please read X-Original-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:25:00 -0400 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.49.129.169 X-Original-From: 13290493@geocities.com X-Original-X-Trace: news01.t-net.net.ve 919228955 206.49.129.169 (Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:22:35 GMT) X-CosmoTraq: K115SI\L04KX,HB&_@_QG#873\>(2+0'_[#KB?$"])\Y&D+*BTNW"O*S[HST!? X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5988217 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!sibyl!nol2355.fh.zh.ubs.com!not-for-mail From: Andreas Kyriacou Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing on NeXT Laser Printer? Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:32:28 +0100 Organization: UBS Lines: 22 Message-ID: <36CA8CAC.9041FFD7@schweiz.org> References: <79mcdt$mj4$1@santaclara.santafe.edu> <6Arw2.175$nx.159578@newshog.newsread.com> <36C33006.4663@pitt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: w01b00av.flur.zuerich.ubs.ch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36182 comp.sys.next.software:35447 Stefanie Bruninghaus wrote: > > TjL wrote: > > > > Note that this is NOT a recommended process. > > > > The heat from the laser printer will deposit toner from the already printed > > side back into the NeXT printer. > > > > Yes it would be nice, but I would not not not do this with a NeXT printer. > > We did this double-printing, and broke a NeXT Laser Printer. I've had no problems with my NeXT printer so far. I've been printing double-sided, i. e. re-using paper for six years, mostly even on recycled paper. But my output isn't extraordinarily high (2 long life cartridges so far). The risk of damaging your printer probably depends on the amount of copies you make. Andreas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!surfnet.nl!surfnet.nl!rug.nl!not-for-mail From: Marcel Volkerts Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SCSI Compatibility Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:24:55 +0000 Organization: KVI Lines: 50 Message-ID: <36CAB517.DCE6EBD6@kvi.nl> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: kvip05.kvi.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------51DC0223DF5873CE78E6AC21" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36183 comp.sys.next.software:35448 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------51DC0223DF5873CE78E6AC21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Roger M. Jones" wrote: > Am about to install Openstep 4.2 on my Dell PC. A supported SCSI is > Adaptec AHA-2940UW and as I have AHA-2940U2W I am wondering > whether or not this is also supported (I am hoping there is not a big > difference between them). > There is i'm afraid . > > Anyone installed with an Adaptec AHA-2940U2W? > > -Roger Jones > (rmj@leland.stanford.edu) There's a driver at NeXTAnswers for this controller. Haven't used it myself but afaik it works ok. Bye, Marcel --------------51DC0223DF5873CE78E6AC21 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="volkerts.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Marcel Volkerts Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="volkerts.vcf" begin:vcard n:Volkerts;Marcel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:KVI;Experimental Nuclear Physics adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:volkerts@kvi.nl note;quoted-printable:Phone +31 50 3632054=0D=0AFax +31 50 3634003 x-mozilla-cpt:;-18016 fn:Marcel Volkerts end:vcard --------------51DC0223DF5873CE78E6AC21-- #################################################################### From: "Michael Conners" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Linux on a NeXT slab? Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:43:33 -0500 Lines: 8 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.175.52.105 Message-ID: <36cad524.0@news.netwalk.com> X-Trace: 17 Feb 1999 09:41:40 -0500, 206.175.52.105 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!arl-news-svc-4.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!compuserve.com!news.netwalk.com!206.175.52.105 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35449 I have seen a Linux distribution for M68k - has anyone tried to install it on NeXT black hardware? Thanks. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de!richling From: Jan Richling Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Partition > 2 GB on 3.3 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:47:24 +0100 Organization: Technische Universitaet Berlin, Deutschland Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: isdnppp0.informatik.hu-berlin.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.cs.tu-berlin.de 919281053 9252 141.20.29.140 (17 Feb 1999 19:50:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@cs.tu-berlin.de NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Feb 1999 19:50:53 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970321; i586 Linux 2.0.36] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32917 comp.sys.next.software:35450 Hi, is there ANY method to format und use partitions >2 GB on NeXTSTEP 3.3? It is NOT the boot-device - maybe there could be a solution with another type of filesystem... does anybody know? TIA, Jan ------------------------------------------------------------------ / Jan Richling - http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~richling / / PhD Student at Computer Architecture and Communication Group - / / Department of Computer Science - Humboldt University Berlin / #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.algonet.se!algonet!masternews.telia.net!newsfeed.bcn.ttd.net!news.mad.ttd.net!not-for-mail From: Capi@interferr.com (ThunderBoy.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for Cosmos 1.61 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:03:08 GMT Organization: Partido Universal. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <36cb3dae.647512@news.interferr.com> Reply-To: capi@interferr.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.77.240.6 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Cache-Post-Path: cache!unknown@195-57-247-199.usr.ans.es X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.2 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35451 I´m trying to find Cosmos 1.61 or crack for this. Please send me some information. capi@interferr.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-peer-europe.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!128.119.166.60!umass.edu!news!nylon.hampshire.edu!steve From: steve@nylon.hampshire.edu (steve) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xnext doesn't display correctly Date: 18 Feb 99 00:16:32 GMT Lines: 11 Message-ID: <36cb5be0.0@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: acadntserver.hampshire.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35452 I am trying to use Xnext, but it doesn't display properly.... the screen turns grey, but that's all... it does throw up the registration notice I think, but I can't see it because like everything else it is obscured by the grey that covers the entire screen. the menus I assume are there, cause I can hit command-h and it will hide the X server... there is no mouse displayed on the screen while the X server is in the foreground. --steve #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!hub.org!hub.org!alpha3!casfaq Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Reply-To: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19990216.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19990209.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19990202.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 Feb 1999 09:00:00 -0500 Expires: 02 Mar 1999 12:00:00 GMT Organization: Private System, Toronto, ON, Canada User-Agent: trivdb (uufree) Lines: 38 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.apps.spreadsheets:42635 comp.sys.mac.apps:239622 comp.os.msdos.apps:27046 comp.os.os2.apps:208293 comp.sys.next.software:35453 Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Frequency-Comment: monthly to financial/spreadsheet groups Frequency-Comment: monthly to machine-specific .apps/.software groups Last-modified: 1998-Jul-12 FAQ-Last-modified: 1999-Feb-14 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets can be found on the Internet: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!newsfeed.dpn.de!news-out1.f.gtn.com!news-in1.f.gtn.com!newsfeed.tli.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!news.uni-essen.de!spo109!not-for-mail From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Partition > 2 GB on 3.3 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Date: 18 Feb 1999 10:30:37 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Lines: 33 Message-ID: <7agq4d$a1o5@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: spf109.power.uni-essen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32921 comp.sys.next.software:35454 Jan Richling (richling@informatik.hu-berlin.de) wrote: : Hi, Hello! : : is there ANY method to format und use partitions >2 GB on NeXTSTEP 3.3? There is, but I'm not sure you like the answer: To my knowledge it is not possible to make a DOS-/PC-fdisk partition larger than 2GB, (well maybe 4GB, but I'm not sure for NS 3.3(!)), but you can have an fdisk-structureless disk (used only by NS) and have up to 6 UNIX-/BSD-partitions on it. Each of these can be at least 2 GB large (see the 'disk'-command and (/etc/)'disktab'-entries); some say they successfully use even larger BSD-partitions (up to 4GB or even more than that) - in good conscience I myself can only talk about (up to) 2GB partitions. : : It is NOT the boot-device - maybe there could be a solution with another : type of filesystem... does anybody know? Yes, the above solution, but its not only the filesystem, it's the 'disk- system' so to speak of, that shouldn't be fdisk-formatted. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news-hh.maz.net!desire.lavielle.com!news From: "Valentino Kyriakides" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What happened to Appsoft Draw? Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:22:46 +0100 Organization: Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co Lines: 12 Message-ID: <7ah49n$g9n@desire.lavielle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lispworks.lavielle.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35455 I wonder what happened to the Appsoft Draw software, is there now a free authorization code available, or did some other company bought the product? I still have a lot of usefull templates for Appsoft Draw, which are created a long time ago with a trial version. Now I think it would be nice to reuse these, are there any old licenses now free available? -- Valentino Kyriakides Email: vkyr@lavielle.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: Vicki Bragin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help with ppp problem Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:22:00 -0800 Organization: Pasadena City College Lines: 19 Message-ID: <36CC4C38.33E48298@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lai-ca5-153.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Feb 18 11:30:29 AM CST 1999 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35456 I have been using ppp on NS 3.3 successfully for years. Most recently, however, my ISP changed the access number for our area and, now, I am unable to connect. The ppp log file shows a message: Serial line looped back at which point the connection terminates. Can somebody tell me what this means and what I can do to resolve this problem? I continue to be able to access my ISP from WinNT using the same modem despite the ISP access number change. However, I really miss and it has been rather painful not using my NEXTSTEP computer and everything that goes with it when I access the outside world. Vicki Bragin ********************************************* Victoria M. Bragin, Associate Professor of Chemistry Pasadena City College, 1570 E. Colorado Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91106-2003 Voice: 626/585-7147 Fax: 626/585-7919 ********************************************* #################################################################### From: "John E. Hayes III" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: compiling HX under NS 3.3 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:00:50 -0500 Organization: Cornell University-Sensory Group Lines: 14 Sender: jeh25@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <36CC6362.EC6F176E@cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: spicy.foodsci.cornell.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.syr.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!usenet Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35457 Hullo All- I'm trying to compile HX (the commandline hotline client for unix) on my NeXTcube but I'm not having much luck. Anyone even attempted this? -- John E Hayes III "What I want are self-assembling, self-replicating LEGO robots. They'd have little transponders so that they could recognize their own "family",you could paint little decals on them, and then they'd roam the wastelands hunting for enemy LEGOs, overpowering them, and stripping them for parts." -Unknown slashdot.org Poster #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!205.252.116.205!howland.erols.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com.MISMATCH!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!monger.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: compiling HX under NS 3.3 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <36CC6362.EC6F176E@cornell.edu> Lines: 19 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:54:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.210 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 919378445 209.212.132.210 (Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:54:05 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:54:05 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35458 In <36CC6362.EC6F176E@cornell.edu> "John E. Hayes III" wrote: > Hullo All- > > I'm trying to compile HX (the commandline hotline client for unix) on my > NeXTcube but I'm not having much luck. Anyone even attempted this? Never even heard of the beast. Where's some net info on it? (web page/source/etc) I'd try asking on csn.programmer rather than here.... TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there a Real audio player for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? Date: 18 Feb 1999 20:20:29 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 15 Message-ID: <919369228.806426@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca> References: <79e4eq$ibg$1@isis.fiu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watserv4.uwaterloo.ca Cache-Post-Path: watserv4.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35459 In article , wrote: > >Can you be more specific and provide a link to >these drivers? I'd be quite willing to make a stab >at porting them if I could find source code. > Good luck from the binaries... They don't provide source for anything from what I've seen. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: Steven Blackford Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: compiling HX under NS 3.3 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:51:28 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 18 Message-ID: <7ak19s$p31$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <36CC6362.EC6F176E@cornell.edu> <199902182254.RAA04742@ocalhost> <36CCAB52.A4F4C671@cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.16.55.24 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Feb 19 15:51:28 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.0 OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998G HTTPS/1.04a OmniNetworking/1998G OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998G OmniFoundation/1998G OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x16.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 207.16.55.24 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35460 comp.sys.next.programmer:30361 In <36CC6362.EC6F176E@cornell.edu> "John E. Hayes III" wrote: > Hullo All- > > I'm trying to compile HX (the commandline hotline client for unix) on my > NeXTcube but I'm not having much luck. Anyone even attempted this? Hi John, You'll have to use the -posix flag while compiling HX. You also have to link it against the posix lib. I compiled it just fine on my NeXT this way. It uses the sigaction stuff in the posix library. I've also compiled hxd on my system as well. Email me if you can't get it to work. Take care! ---- Steve,kb7sqi@pdcn.net NeXTMail Welcome! ICQ#: 9248680 -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.gwdg.de!not-for-mail From: Timm Wetzel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone using CVS with local repositories? (rcs file corruption) Date: 19 Feb 1999 16:18:45 +0100 Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Lines: 31 Sender: twetzel@lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35461 Is anyone using CVS on NS/OS with local repositories (successfully)? I've noticed that a ~50MB source tree import in a non-empty repository invariably leaves some rcs files in the repository corrupted (mostly diff section: missing text, extra ^@s). I've seen this with cvs 1.10 (gcc 2.7.2.1.f1, cc), 1.10.4, 1.9 (binary from peanuts, with rcs-5.7 and rcs-5.?). The problem has been noticed on other systems apparently, but only very rarely. Since I am seeing it on quite a variety of versions, it seems to be port-related or system-specific (race condition? [g]cc bug? shared libraries?). The only working import I got was by running it under gdb with malloc_debug(14). (I did not repeat it yet because it took >3days to run.) So surely other developer use CVS with NS (and non-trivial repository sizes). Does it work only with remote servers (seems like a more common configuration for bigger projects)? I am using NS3.3p1 with black hardware. Thanks for any input, Timm -- Timm Wetzel Biomed. NMR GmbH Tel +49 551 201-1091 FAX +49 551 201-1307 Am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Goettingen, Germany #################################################################### From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone using CVS with local repositories? (rcs file corruption) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:37:18 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Lines: 15 Message-ID: <1999Feb19.193718.1288@news.online.de> References: Reply-To: thf@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.7.132.177 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: renate.komtel.net 919458881 31221 212.7.132.177 (19 Feb 1999 21:14:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@renate.komtel.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Feb 1999 21:14:41 GMT Cc: twetzel@gwdg.de X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-ulm.de!peernews.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!blackbush.xlink.net!renate.komtel.net!not-for-mail!thomas Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35462 In Timm Wetzel wrote: > Is anyone using CVS on NS/OS with local repositories (successfully)? > > I've noticed that a ~50MB source tree import in a non-empty repository > invariably leaves some rcs files in the repository corrupted (mostly > diff section: missing text, extra ^@s). > > I've seen this with cvs 1.10 (gcc 2.7.2.1.f1, cc), 1.10.4, 1.9 (binary > from peanuts, with rcs-5.7 and rcs-5.?). I use CVS for many years under black HW, never had any problem. I compiled CVS myself, using the NeXT-cc compiler. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de!richling From: Jan Richling Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Partition > 2 GB on 3.3 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:51:30 +0100 Organization: Technische Universitaet Berlin, Deutschland Lines: 29 Message-ID: <2cfka7.5m.ln@vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de> References: <7agq4d$a1o5@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: isdnppp1.informatik.hu-berlin.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.cs.tu-berlin.de 919454982 7766 141.20.29.141 (19 Feb 1999 20:09:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@cs.tu-berlin.de NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Feb 1999 20:09:42 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970321; i586 Linux 2.0.36] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32937 comp.sys.next.software:35463 In comp.sys.next.software H.-R. Oberhage wrote: > Jan Richling (richling@informatik.hu-berlin.de) wrote: > : Hi, > : is there ANY method to format und use partitions >2 GB on NeXTSTEP 3.3? > There is, but I'm not sure you like the answer: To my knowledge it is not > possible to make a DOS-/PC-fdisk partition larger than 2GB, (well maybe > 4GB, but I'm not sure for NS 3.3(!)), but you can have an fdisk-structureless > disk (used only by NS) and have up to 6 UNIX-/BSD-partitions on it. Each > of these can be at least 2 GB large (see the 'disk'-command and > (/etc/)'disktab'-entries); some say they successfully use even larger > BSD-partitions (up to 4GB or even more than that) - in good conscience > I myself can only talk about (up to) 2GB partitions. Hmmm... NS-only is okay - the machines are HP715/33 and HP715/50 running only NS 3.3 (HPPA-architecture) But: The partitions are limited to 2 GB - using a 4 GB disk is possible. I'm looking for ways to break that limit. Maybe something like a ext2-driver for ns ..... Jan ------------------------------------------------------------------ / Jan Richling - http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~richling / / PhD Student at Computer Architecture and Communication Group - / / Department of Computer Science - Humboldt University Berlin / #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!212.63.192.161.MISMATCH!newshub.bart.net!news.tele2.nl!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!newspeer1.nac.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.210.0.20!news.san.rr.com!not-for-mail From: "Steve Biskis" Subject: Re: headless black color systems Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software References: <7a71ko$la3@slip.net> Organization: Time Warner Message-ID: <01be59eb$ea11e320$080216c0@newt> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Lines: 9 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:35:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.22.126 X-Trace: news.san.rr.com 919197345 204.210.22.126 (Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:35:45 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:35:45 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35464 Yep, I've been running a NeXTStation Color Turbo headless for several years. Steve B. > Can NeXT Color systems run headless without > specical terminators for the monitor? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!monger.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gnutar problem X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <36CDD3AA.91E72F04@trail.com> Lines: 44 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 03:54:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.78 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 919482866 209.212.132.78 (Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:54:26 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:54:26 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35465 In <36CDD3AA.91E72F04@trail.com> patrick wrote: > I've downloaded several interesting utilities from the NexT archive at > www.peak.org/next, each with the extension .tar and the unarchiving > utility in the inspector window on my slab can't "unzip" them. My modem > is attached to an ALPHA machine running NT 4.0 and I transfer them on > floppies to my slab running 3.2 Nextstep. Can anybody tell me what the > problem/solution is. I believe the problem is two-fold. 1) NT is too stupid to understand the actual extension is .tar.gz and therefore is trimming the name to foo.tar rather than foo.tar.gz Hopefully someday Mr Gates will stop counting his money long enough to realize that filenames can have more than one "." in them. 2) After downloading them, you should rename them and use Opener.app to un-tar and un-gzip them. Get this: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/archiveutil/Opener/3.3/Opener.3.3.N.b. tar.Z download it, fix the name, bring it to your slab to your home directory Goto Terminal.app and do this: uncompress Opener.3.3.N.b.tar.Z && echo done when you see "done" actually appear, go back to the Workspace Manager and you should be able to untar from there. If not, try this in Terminal: gnutar xvf Opener*tar gosh, was gnutar in 3.2 ? If not, try regular tar, but use gnutar if it is there! TjL -- (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) Nothing witty to say today. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: fluids@aol.com (Fluids) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT machine on an ethernet network Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 20 Feb 1999 08:48:55 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990220034855.00952.00000487@ng-fd1.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35466 Hello everybody, givens as follows: NeXTStation Turbo Color NeXTstep 3.3 Hi, i've got some problems with my machine. I've been attempting to get it on an ethernet network. I've edited the resolv.conf properly and likewise the Hostmanager.app, along with another .app that i can't remember the name of. Also, when I start up the machine, it says "warning, Net not empty!" I assume the machine knows there's a network out there, but when i go into /Net, there's nothing there and I can't see the other computers. Must I do something else that I've missed? I really want to get this thing on the network and eventually the internet, so any help would be great. email = fluids@mailcity.com Thanks, brandon #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!outgoing.news.rcn.net.MISMATCH!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!news.ecn.ou.edu!leto.backbone.ou.edu!news.nodak.edu!not-for-mail From: enders@bolshoi.cc.misu.nodak.edu (Todd Enders) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Xnext doesn't display correctly Date: 18 Feb 1999 03:13:20 GMT Organization: ND Higher Education Network Lines: 14 Message-ID: <7ag0gg$j9s$1@node2.nodak.edu> References: <36cb5be0.0@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: bolshoi.cc.misu.nodak.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: node2.nodak.edu 919307600 19772 165.234.217.10 (18 Feb 1999 03:13:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@nodak.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Feb 1999 03:13:20 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35467 In article <36cb5be0.0@news> steve@nylon.hampshire.edu (steve) writes: > I am trying to use Xnext, but it doesn't display properly.... > > the screen turns grey, but that's all... > Yup, it does the same thing on my colour Turbo station running 4.2. I start X apps in a NeXT terminal window, and still nada on the Xnext display. Followed the setup instructions to the letter, installed all the bits in the right places, etc. No error messages on the console, and the X apps *seem* to be communicating with the server, just no display. If anyone knows the fix, I'd be most grateful to hear about it! Todd #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news.medicusnet.de!news-feed1.de1.concert.net!news-feed1.eu.concert.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.191.82.230!prairie.attcanada.net!attcanada!tundra.ops.attcanada.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Joe Skrzypczak" Newsgroups: bionet.software.pc,clari.tw.computers.pc.software,clari.tw.computers.pc.software.releases,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.misc Subject: Free Copy of Encarta and Microsoft Streets Lines: 6 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:38:52 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.194.188.144 X-Trace: tundra.ops.attcanada.net 919528972 142.194.188.144 (Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:42:52 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:42:52 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35468 news.software.misc:1915 Check out the free section at WebShops to get a free copy of Microsoft Encarta and Microsoft Streets. http://webshops.webjump.com #################################################################### From: steve@nylon.hampshire.edu (steve) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gnutar problem Date: 20 Feb 99 16:55:44 GMT Lines: 31 Message-ID: <36cee910.0@news> References: <36CDD3AA.91E72F04@trail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: acadntserver.hampshire.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.shore.net!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!ulowell.uml.edu!gatekeeper.umassd.edu!umass.edu!news!nylon.hampshire.edu!steve Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35469 > gnutar xvf Opener*tar if the file is of style foo.tar try something like tar tvf foo.tar | head -10 if it returns a listing of the files in the archive you're good to go, and should do something like tar fpx foo.tar but if it returns something like, "This doesn't look like a tar archive..." or, "tar: tape blocksize error" then it is probably should be foo.tar.gz and therefore, you should do something like: mv foo.tar foo.tar.gz ; gzip -dc foo.tar.gz | tar tvf - | head -10 and hopefully that will work. there is really no difference between gnutar and gzip -dc foo.tar.gz | tar xpf - cause that's what gnutar does.. there is nothing wrong with using the opener, but it's good to know how to do it from a terminal... --steve #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!howland.erols.net!outgoing.news.rcn.net.MISMATCH!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!monger.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help with ppp problem X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <36CC4C38.33E48298@ix.netcom.com> Lines: 22 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:55:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.210 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 919378552 209.212.132.210 (Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:55:52 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:55:52 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35470 In <36CC4C38.33E48298@ix.netcom.com> Vicki Bragin wrote: > I have been using ppp on NS 3.3 successfully for years. Most recently, > however, my ISP changed the access number for our area and, now, I am > unable to connect. The ppp log file shows a message: > Serial line looped back > at which point the connection terminates. Can somebody tell me what this > means and what I can do to resolve this problem? Basically it means that the connection wasn't made, and pppd is talking to itself. Did they do anything else like adding PAP? Have you asked on the NeXTPPP mailing list? (see http://www.peak.org/next/ppp/) TjL -- (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) Nothing witty to say today. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news3.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <36CF1171.C5D14458@best.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:48:01 -0800 From: Joe Bresler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin@best.com, phy070@power.uni-essen.de Subject: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: jbresler.vip.best.com X-Trace: nntp1.ba.best.com 919539966 201 204.156.155.48 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29289 comp.sys.next.software:35471 Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when networked with a PC? I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need anything besides a mini hub and the cabling? My PC has a networking card installed and is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a file server and print server (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would hopefully be down the line.... Thanks for any help you can give me! Thanks, Joe jbresler@best.com Robert Bullock > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? > > -- > To reply: remove the from my email address: > rcbullock@home.com > But you knew that didn't you ;P #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!netnews.com!news.servint.com!not-for-mail From: "Reed Caldwell" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Risk Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:00:37 -0500 Organization: ServInt - This Is It Lines: 8 Message-ID: <7amiss$5kr$1@news.servint.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 8.ppp.servint.net X-Trace: news.servint.com 919523036 5787 209.50.224.207 (20 Feb 1999 15:03:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.servint.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Feb 1999 15:03:56 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35472 Does anyone have the shareware version of the game Risk for NeXTStep 3.2/3.3? Thanks! Reed #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news3.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:48:15 -0800 From: Joe Bresler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software To: phy070@power.uni-essen.de Subject: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: jbresler.vip.best.com X-Trace: nntp1.ba.best.com 919539980 201 204.156.155.48 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32946 comp.sys.next.misc:29290 comp.sys.next.software:35473 Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when networked with a PC? I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need anything besides a mini hub and the cabling? My PC has a networking card installed and is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a file server and print server (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would hopefully be down the line.... Thanks for any help you can give me! Thanks, Joe jbresler@best.com Robert Bullock > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? > > -- > To reply: remove the from my email address: > rcbullock@home.com > But you knew that didn't you ;P #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!uniol!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!usenet From: "John E. Hayes III" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: compiling HX under NS 3.3 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:07:46 -0500 Organization: Cornell University -- Sensory Group Lines: 27 Sender: jeh25@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <36CCAB52.A4F4C671@cornell.edu> References: <36CC6362.EC6F176E@cornell.edu> <199902182254.RAA04742@ocalhost> NNTP-Posting-Host: d185cea47.twcny.rr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: TjL Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35474 comp.sys.next.programmer:30367 The source, and minimal documentation can be found at http://www.krazynet.com/hx/. john TjL wrote: > > POSTED TO USENET GROUP(S): comp.sys.next.software > > In <36CC6362.EC6F176E@cornell.edu> "John E. Hayes III" wrote: > > Hullo All- > > > > I'm trying to compile HX (the commandline hotline client for unix) on my > > NeXTcube but I'm not having much luck. Anyone even attempted this? > > Never even heard of the beast. > > Where's some net info on it? (web page/source/etc) > > I'd try asking on csn.programmer rather than here.... > > TjL > -- > New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) > Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license > License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY > (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!spring.edu.tw!serv.hinet.net!netnews.hinet.net!news From: "=?big5?B?pK2o1Q==?=" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: =?big5?B?wci/+qToqmsopEApICCn1qjTrN0=?= Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:51:04 +0800 Organization: DCI HiNet Lines: 732 Message-ID: <7aflh9$ikk@netnews.hinet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: h229.s109.ts30.hinet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_04E4_01BE5903.607C85E0" X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 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------=_NextPart_000_04E4_01BE5903.607C85E0-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!gmd.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!newsfeed.dnsg.net!howland.erols.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help with ppp problem Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:30:17 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 42 Message-ID: <7aibap$bj3$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <36CC4C38.33E48298@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.34.210.42 To: Vicki Bragin X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Feb 19 00:30:17 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998H HTTPS/1.04a OmniNetworking/1998H OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998H OmniFoundation/1998H OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x10.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 200.34.210.42 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35476 In article <36CC4C38.33E48298@ix.netcom.com>, Vicki Bragin wrote: > I have been using ppp on NS 3.3 successfully for years. Most recently, > however, my ISP changed the access number for our area and, now, I am > unable to connect. The ppp log file shows a message: > Serial line looped back > at which point the connection terminates. Can somebody tell me what this > means and what I can do to resolve this problem? I continue to be able > to access my ISP from WinNT using the same modem despite the ISP access > number change. However, I really miss and it has been rather painful > not using my NEXTSTEP computer and everything that goes with it when I > access the outside world. The problem seems to be that your ISP changed login methods and, after a failed login, they are just echoing anything you sent (that's the reason for the "looped back" message.) Since WinNT does have access they probably are using a standard PAP or CHAP login. You'll have to change your pppd configuration a little: 1. In /etc/ppp/options comment out the line that says "-pap"; add a line with "user ". 2. In your chat script remove anything after the CONNECT line. There is no login sequence. 3. As root, create an /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file. The format is explained in man pppd; you need only one line with " * " if you use only one ISP (the * is in the provider field.) This file should be set read-only by root. And that should be it. If there's no connection, look at /usr/adm/pppd.log (or wherever the log is kept) and see if you can find if other authentication is required (CHAP is OK just do the same steps for it, CHAP80 is not included by default with pppd.) Hope this helps. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.114.4.11!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Robert Bullock" .home.com> Subject: Re: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com> Organization: Susie Message-ID: <01be5d4d$7c434180$010044c0@cx714092-a> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 Lines: 52 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 03:49:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.103.153 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 919568940 24.4.103.153 (Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:49:00 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:49:00 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32949 comp.sys.next.misc:29292 comp.sys.next.software:35477 Joe Bresler wrote in article <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com>... > Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when networked > with a PC? Well I can browse and use my CD and my first partition on my HD (maybe that has something to do with my problem, access to 1st partition only?). And I can browse the web and get my mail (still have to make it send rigght tho.) and read news. I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono > slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need anything > besides a mini hub and the cabling? I used 2 NIC's and coax cabling to the NeXT and the PC was in the middle with the other network card on a cable modem. My PC has a networking card installed and > is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a file > server and print server Can't help you there, mine goes the other way. (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the > nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would hopefully > be down the line.... I use: WinGate 2.1 under Windows 95 as a proxy server (free 1 user) TrueGrid NFS server (free) PopOver (for getting mail on the NeXT) > Robert Bullock > > > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > > > > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and > > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition > > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <15546918968424@digifix.com> Date: 21 Feb 1999 04:44:23 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 342 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <7743919573220@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:118867 comp.sys.next.announce:4910 comp.sys.next.hardware:36223 comp.sys.next.software:35478 comp.sys.next.misc:29293 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32952 comp.sys.next.bugs:5032 comp.sys.next.programmer:30369 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Peanuts Archive http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/Rhapsody http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/MacOSX http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/WebObjects http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData The Peanuts-Archive is the premier site in Europe and mirrored in whole or parts all over the world. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Site http://www.apple.com/macosx/ Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Developer Site http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server/ Apple Computer's WebObjects Site http://www.apple.com/webobjects/ Mac OS X Server Developer Documentation http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosxserver/macosxserver.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.bctel.net!newsfeed.smartt.com!umiratel From: umiratel@nospam.nocrap.com (David P) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: modem terminal software for NeXT Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:27:05 -0700 Organization: The Big "N" Lines: 26 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: burn-mn02002.smartt.com X-Trace: newsfeed.smartt.com 919574614 5149 209.52.12.52 (21 Feb 1999 05:23:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.smartt.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Feb 1999 05:23:34 GMT X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35479 I've just got a NeXTstation with only 8Mb of ram and a 105Mb hard drive. I am looking to get a piece of terminal software for my modem so I can call out. I want something with a decent graphical user interface, not the Unix stuff like kermit or pcomm. Any suggestions out there? On another note, where can I get NXFax? Also, does Lotus Improv run on an 8mb slab or should I up the memory to 16Mb? I've got an external 200Mb SCSI drive to store other stuff, so I'm only limited by memory. And 1 last question. Is NeXTSTEP 3.2 or my NeXTstation slab Y2K compliant?!?! Thanks a bunch! -- Please remove "nospam" when replying personally via email. Thanks. ******************************************************************** Posted via NewsWatcher on the Mac. Apple PowerMac 7100/80 (SoftRouter Gateway) NeXTstation 040/25 (Net Client/Mail Server) Apple Newton 2100 (Net Client/Email/News) My Email address is: umiratel@smartt.com ******************************************************************* #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SUBMISSION: sendmail.8.9.3.NI.b.tar.gz Date: 21 Feb 1999 05:46:29 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 19 Message-ID: <7ao6jl$be3@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: no.spam.please@no.spam.period NNTP-Posting-Host: dal-tx50-02.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Feb 20 9:46:29 PM PST 1999 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35480 sendmail.8.9.3.NI.b.tar.gz, a NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP package installer for sendmail 8.9.3 with instructions and scripts to generate a sendmail.cf, has been submitted to peak (ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/submissions). It should reside for 30 days in ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/ and end up in ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/sendmail/ JP -- Please respond to (slight mods needed to address): jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!haff+ From: George B Haff Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WetPaint license Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 03:55:56 -0500 Organization: Junior, Mathematical Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4qnwcQG00bkG189es0@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po9.andrew.cmu.edu X-Trace: bb3.andrew.cmu.edu 919587423 18987 128.2.10.109 (21 Feb 1999 08:57:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: postman+netnews@andrew.cmu.edu@bb3.andrew.cmu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Feb 1999 08:57:03 GMT X-Added: With Flames (outnews v2.6) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:22977 comp.sys.next.software:35481 comp.sys.next.misc:29294 does anyone know where i can get a license for or purchase a working copy of wetPaint and other lighthouse apps? thanks, -george --- ________________________________________ |: george b haff DiXuM :| |: :| |: :| |: :| |: "y2k will rock your lame ass" :| |: -a bumper sticker :| :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: pokey069@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 15:16:02 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 59 Message-ID: <7ap7vd$vre$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com> <01be5d4d$7c434180$010044c0@cx714092-a> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.78.113.157 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Feb 21 15:16:02 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0b2; Windows 98) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x14.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 12.78.113.157 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32953 comp.sys.next.misc:29295 comp.sys.next.software:35482 Why not try using samba instead of NFS? In article <01be5d4d$7c434180$010044c0@cx714092-a>, "Robert Bullock" .home.com> wrote: > > > Joe Bresler wrote in article > <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com>... > > Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when > networked > > with a PC? > > Well I can browse and use my CD and my first partition on my HD (maybe that > has something to do with my problem, access to 1st partition only?). And I > can browse the web and get my mail (still have to make it send rigght tho.) > and read news. > > I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono > > slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need > anything > > besides a mini hub and the cabling? > > I used 2 NIC's and coax cabling to the NeXT and the PC was in the middle > with the other network card on a cable modem. > > My PC has a networking card installed and > > is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a > file > > server and print server > > Can't help you there, mine goes the other way. > > (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the > > nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would > hopefully > > be down the line.... > > I use: > > WinGate 2.1 under Windows 95 as a proxy server (free 1 user) > TrueGrid NFS server (free) > PopOver (for getting mail on the NeXT) > > > Robert Bullock > > > > > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > > > > > > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > > > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' > and > > > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > > > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the > partition > > > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? > > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!hub1.ispnews.com!news13.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BillLeeX@cleaf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RadicalNews Questions Reply-To: BillLeeX@cleaf.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.176.49.18 X-Trace: news13.ispnews.com 919616457 209.176.49.18 (Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:00:57 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:00:57 EDT Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:00:57 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35483 Two questions concerning preferences for RN that I can't seem to figure out how to set. 1. Is there any way to have RN just re-use the existing window for a newsgroup rather than always opening a new window each time I select a newsgroup to read. 2. Is there any way to have RN NOT fetch the first article automatically when opening the newsgroup? 3. Is there any way to have RN doing the article/subject fetching on a selected set of newsgroups while actually viewing a different newsgroup's articles? -- Bill Lee AMA 20018 AMA District VIII Webmaster (Take out the X to respond.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!EU.net!news0.Belgium.EU.net!newsr.Belgium.EU.net!not-for-mail From: Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp,sys,next,misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I need some help! Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 04:06:46 GMT Organization: EUnet Belgium, Leuven, Belgium Lines: 45 Message-ID: <7apldv$96h$1@news3.Belgium.EU.net> References: <7acgc3$3u4$1@news3.Belgium.EU.net> Reply-To: Arnold.Creten@ping.be NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup450.leuven.eunet.be X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36232 comp.sys.next.software:35484 Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten) wrote: sorry, but again, I think there is someone who has the solution: please! >Help, help, help ... >Here after I note all he said before ending cooperation! >Starting bsd(0,0,0) >In next mach operating system: >Next rom monitor 1.0v41 >Next Mach 3.3 Mon oct 24 13:15/57 Pdt 1994; root(rebuilder): >mk-171.9 obj~2:rm-m68k/release -m68k >Fpu version 0x0 >physical memory = 16.00 megabyte >available memory 14.07 megabyte >using 102 buffers containing 0.79 megabyte of memory >scsi 53c90a controller, target 7 as sc0 target 0 mun 0 >microp 2105-08m91094802 rev as sd0 at sc0 target 0 lun 0 >disk label extern >disk capacity 532 mb, device block 512 bytes >*** this is the start disk**** >Maxtor xt-8380s rev b3c as sd1 at sc0 target 1 lun 0 >disk label my disk >disk capacity 349 mb, device blok 1024 bytes >*** this is the intern disk - original- with next 3.0 *** >sony cde rom cdu-541 rev 2.6a as sd2 at sc0 target 3 lun 0 >sd2: unit attention >waiting for drive to come ready >....... >quantum fireball 5405 rev 1q09 as sd3 at sc0 target 6 lun 0 >disk label new disk >disk capacity 520 mb device block 512 bytes >generic scsi device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 >generic scsi device as sg1 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 >generic scsi device as sg2 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 >generic scsi device as sg3 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 >odc0 at 0x2012000 >od0at 0dc0 slave 0 >od1 at odc0 slave 1 >***** and that is it - all stops here! >I hope to find someone to help me! >Is it a hardware problem, where and how to find a solution. >Arnold.Creten@ping.be #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!cyclone.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WetPaint license Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 21 Feb 1999 11:27:15 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 23 Message-ID: <7aoqij$j7q$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <4qnwcQG00bkG189es0@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo2.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:22980 comp.sys.next.software:35485 comp.sys.next.misc:29298 it is somewhere in teh peak archives they have the license strings in teh lighthouse dir godwin George B Haff (haff+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : does anyone know where i can get a license for or purchase a working : copy of wetPaint and other lighthouse apps? : thanks, : -george : --- : ________________________________________ : |: george b haff DiXuM :| : |: :| : |: :| : |: :| : |: "y2k will rock your lame ass" :| : |: -a bumper sticker :| : :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!cyclone.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Feb 1999 11:28:57 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 39 Message-ID: <7aoqlp$j7q$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo2.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32954 comp.sys.next.misc:29299 comp.sys.next.software:35486 install SAMBA Client and Server.. it should work godwin Joe Bresler (jbresler@best.com) wrote: : Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when networked : with a PC? I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono : slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need anything : besides a mini hub and the cabling? My PC has a networking card installed and : is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a file : server and print server (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the : nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would hopefully : be down the line.... : Thanks for any help you can give me! : Thanks, : Joe : jbresler@best.com : Robert Bullock : > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: : > : > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS : > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and : > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive : > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition : > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? : > : > -- : > To reply: remove the from my email address: : > rcbullock@home.com : > But you knew that didn't you ;P #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!cyclone.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: modem terminal software for NeXT Date: 21 Feb 1999 11:31:48 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 22 Message-ID: <7aoqr4$j7q$3@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo2.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35487 David P (umiratel@nospam.nocrap.com) wrote: : I've just got a NeXTstation with only 8Mb of ram and a 105Mb hard drive. : I am looking to get a piece of terminal software for my modem so I can : call out. : I want something with a decent graphical user interface, not the Unix : stuff like kermit or pcomm. Any suggestions out there? you need PPP go to http://www.thoughport.com:8080/ for tutorial.. : On another note, where can I get NXFax? I think Rob was still selling this a while back.. www.blackholeinc.com :Also, does Lotus Improv run on an : 8mb slab or should I up the memory to 16Mb? up the memory!!! man it has to be painful running systems like that!! : And 1 last question. Is NeXTSTEP 3.2 or my NeXTstation slab Y2K compliant?!?! nope but patches are available. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!firehose.mindspring.com!not-for-mail From: Mike Curtis Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Velocity 128 Video from STB with RIVA Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:04:27 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 15 Message-ID: <36D0126A.9D98FB15@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.38.70 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 21 Feb 1999 14:06:39 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36233 comp.sys.next.software:35488 comp.sys.next.misc:29302 Does anyone know of a driver that exists for NS [mach] 3.3 on Intel Pentium Pro MB?? Please reply directly to me if you prefer; especially if this is a stupid question ;-) Thanks, Mike -- "We better get back cause it'll be dark soon and they mostly come at night, mostly..." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.alt.net!usenet From: stiv@neitherherenorthere.net (stiv) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RadicalNews Questions Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:17:29 GMT Organization: Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - http://www.altopia.com Lines: 35 Message-ID: <36d082e6.1284667@news.alt.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35489 On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:00:57 GMT, BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote: > >Two questions concerning preferences for RN that I can't seem to figure out >how to set. > >1. Is there any way to have RN just re-use the existing window for a >newsgroup rather than always opening a new window each time I select a >newsgroup to read. Doubt it. Tho I don't quite understand why this would be a problem. > >2. Is there any way to have RN NOT fetch the first article automatically when >opening the newsgroup? I believe there is an option that you can set involving line lengths. If the article has >x lines you will be prompted whether to fetch it or not. Set x small. > >3. Is there any way to have RN doing the article/subject fetching on a >selected set of newsgroups while actually viewing a different newsgroup's >articles? If there is I haven't found it. Then again, if there is, it would prolly be the default behavior. All in all, this is NOT a very good app by Wintel standards. It really hords resources. There was an app called HNNews that tried to copy the Agent look and feel. It appears to have been abandoned in beta. Wolfware is still advertising the forthcoming Newsflash. I can't wait til 1997 If only I could get a 16 bit Agent to run on SoftPC...... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!news1.optus.net.au!optus!news.uwa.edu.au!parma!rameri From: Rameri Salama Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WetPaint license Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 06:43:29 +0800 Organization: The University of Western Australia Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <4qnwcQG00bkG189es0@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: parma.cs.uwa.oz.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: rameri@parma In-Reply-To: <4qnwcQG00bkG189es0@andrew.cmu.edu> X-URL: http://www.cs.uwa.edu.au/~rameri Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:22983 comp.sys.next.software:35490 comp.sys.next.misc:29304 On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, George B Haff wrote: > does anyone know where i can get a license for or purchase a working > copy of wetPaint and other lighthouse apps? ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LighthouseDesign/LicenseStrings.txt Enjoy. Rameri #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.tli.de!main.de.uu.net!news-reader.dortmund.de.uu.net!not-for-mail From: holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RadicalNews Questions Date: 21 Feb 1999 23:00:55 GMT Organization: The secret circle of the NSRC Lines: 22 Message-ID: <7aq20d$3f1@ragnarok.en.uunet.de> References: <36d082e6.1284667@news.alt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.228.244.28 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.4 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35491 stiv wrote: > On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:00:57 GMT, BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote: > >1. Is there any way to have RN just re-use the existing window for a > >newsgroup rather than always opening a new window each time I select a > >newsgroup to read. > > Doubt it. Tho I don't quite understand why this would be a problem. Info -> Preferences -> Viewer Choices -> Newsgroups: Single Viewer > >2. Is there any way to have RN NOT fetch the first article automatically > >when opening the newsgroup? I don't think so. > All in all, this is NOT a very good app by Wintel standards. It really Huh? I've yet to see another newsreader that's as efficient and *logical* as RN. And the folks actually answer email - imagine that.. Holger #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: modem terminal software for NeXT Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:25:23 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 39 Message-ID: <7aq4kr$n64$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.249.190.95 To: umiratel@smartt.com X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Feb 21 23:25:23 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998H HTTPS/1.04a OmniNetworking/1998H OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998H OmniFoundation/1998H OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x3.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 207.249.190.95 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35492 In article , umiratel@nospam.nocrap.com (David P) wrote: > I've just got a NeXTstation with only 8Mb of ram and a 105Mb hard drive. > I am looking to get a piece of terminal software for my modem so I can > call out. > I want something with a decent graphical user interface, not the Unix > stuff like kermit or pcomm. Any suggestions out there? Try Modulator (shareware): ftp://frp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/comm/Modulator.NI.b.tar.gz you'll need also rz/sz version 3.03 (Modulator doesn't work with newer versions.) > On another note, where can I get NXFax? Same place: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/comm/NXFax/NXFax.1.04.tar.gz and /pub/next/demos/comm/NXFax/NXFax_Addendum.txt.gz this last file has the key (since NXFax now is shareware.) > Also, does Lotus Improv run on an > 8mb slab or should I up the memory to 16Mb? I've got an external 200Mb > SCSI drive to store other stuff, so I'm only limited by memory. I don't know this one; it probably does with a lot of swapping and it would be better to add more memory. > And 1 last question. Is NeXTSTEP 3.2 or my NeXTstation slab Y2K compliant?!?! No. Regards. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!awabi.library.ucla.edu!137.82.194.1!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Velocity 128 Video from STB with RIVA Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 21 Feb 1999 23:42:38 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 20 Message-ID: <7aq5le$6ju$3@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <36D0126A.9D98FB15@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo2.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36244 comp.sys.next.software:35493 comp.sys.next.misc:29306 Do you mean the Fastvid drivers?? I think there is on some where on peak godwin Mike Curtis (michaelcurtis@mindspring.com) wrote: : Does anyone know of a driver that exists for NS [mach] 3.3 on Intel : Pentium Pro MB?? Please reply directly to me if you prefer; especially : if this is a stupid question ;-) : Thanks, : Mike : -- : "We better get back cause it'll be dark soon : and they mostly come at night, mostly..." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!skynet.be!isdnet!howland.erols.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RadicalNews Questions Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:49:08 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 34 Message-ID: <7aq61i$o5q$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.249.190.95 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Feb 21 23:49:08 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998H HTTPS/1.04a OmniNetworking/1998H OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998H OmniFoundation/1998H OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x3.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 207.249.190.95 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35494 In article , BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote: > > Two questions concerning preferences for RN that I can't seem to figure out > how to set. > > 1. Is there any way to have RN just re-use the existing window for a > newsgroup rather than always opening a new window each time I select a > newsgroup to read. Yes. In Preferences choose "Viewer Choices" (in the pop-up list above everything) and set "Single Viewer" in the Newsgroups section. > 2. Is there any way to have RN NOT fetch the first article automatically when > opening the newsgroup? No, I don't think so. > 3. Is there any way to have RN doing the article/subject fetching on a > selected set of newsgroups while actually viewing a different newsgroup's > articles? No. But in the same window used for setting a single window preference there is a Threads section, I think these are (not implemented) process threads, so you may have some concurrency but not as much as you describe, anyway it doesn't create threads according to top (BTW this gets you back to opening several windows, each with it's own thread of execution.) Regards. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: modem terminal software for NeXT Date: 21 Feb 1999 23:15:02 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 32 Message-ID: <7aq41m$9ho$2@news.spacelab.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35495 umiratel@nospam.nocrap.com (David P) wrote: > I've just got a NeXTstation with only 8Mb of ram and a 105Mb hard drive. > I am looking to get a piece of terminal software for my modem so I can > call out. I want something with a decent graphical user interface, not > the Unix stuff like kermit or pcomm. Any suggestions out there? If you want to network your machine via serial connections, you can get DialUpUP SLIP or PPP. The latter has friendly GUI apps available to manage it. > On another note, where can I get NXFax? Dunno. > Also, does Lotus Improv run on an 8mb slab or should I up the memory to > 16Mb? It will run, of course. (NeXT had working VM since day one.) You should still up the memory to 32MB or more. Given the prices nowadays, why not? > And 1 last question. Is NeXTSTEP 3.2 or my NeXTstation slab Y2K > compliant?!?! The hardware does not have any Y2K issues; however, NEXTSTEP 3.2 is _not_ Y2K compliant. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news.minn.net!news.winternet.com!beginning-of-email From: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Setting a background image in NS Date: 22 Feb 1999 02:49:50 GMT Organization: TJP Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <7aqgke$scm$2@blackice.winternet.com> Reply-To: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-67-93.dialup.winternet.com X-Trace: blackice.winternet.com 919651790 29078 204.246.67.93 (22 Feb 1999 02:49:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@winternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Feb 1999 02:49:50 GMT X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.96 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35496 I know that ToyViewer and possibly other apps can set a background image in NEXTSTEP, but I am wondering if there is some way to do this that is not dependent on a particular application running, and that will be saved somehow in my Workspace preferences/defaults. Is there possibly some sort of hidden dwrite or Workspace patch that will do this? Thanks, --Chris ************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@winternet.com MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK "Sacred cows make the best hamburger." --Mark Twain #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!208.134.241.18!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.14.113.10!news.alt.net!usenet From: stiv@neitherherenorthere.net (stiv) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RadicalNews Questions Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 03:51:54 GMT Organization: Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - http://www.altopia.com Lines: 36 Message-ID: <36d0c86f.8569802@news.alt.net> References: <36d082e6.1284667@news.alt.net> <7aq20d$3f1@ragnarok.en.uunet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35497 On 21 Feb 1999 23:00:55 GMT, holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote: > stiv wrote: >> All in all, this is NOT a very good app by Wintel standards. It really > >Huh? Yep. You heard right. > I've yet to see another newsreader that's as efficient and *logical* >as RN. Well, possibly you may want to peak at the other side of the *nix fence. As much as many loathe Windows, Agent is a true gem. Really, probably best damned newsreader ever conceived, regardless of platform. Worth keeping a small DOS partition for it alone. Alternately, I hear someone is has created a weak Linux clone of it. > And the folks actually answer email - imagine that.. > >Holger They may answer email, but have there been any improvements to the product in the last year? Real improvements (porting to another platform is not an improvement) like offline reading, concurrent downloading of headers and articles I don't think so. Look at www.forteinc.com to see what exists elsewhere. If I remember right, RN was reviewed some time back by a group of Newsreader critics who considered it a resource pig. Internet unfriendly. There was a small uproar here about it. The reviewers were correct in their assessment. Regards. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.ecrc.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.quebectel.com!news.quebectel.com!not-for-mail From: Shawn Astels Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Last Day's Prophecy Website Date: 22 Feb 1999 09:10:41 GMT Organization: GlobeTrotter Lines: 12 Message-ID: <7ar6uh$oeh$16881@news.quebectel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-09.f1104.quebectel.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35498 Hello, I hope that everyone will stop in and visite my Last Day's Prophecy Bible Website, My website includes information on False Bible Versions, Salvation, The Antichrist, Y2K Year 2000 Bug, And Alot More. Everything to do with the Second Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in general. 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URL OF MY SITE: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/7197/ MY E-MAIL: sorel@globetrotter.qc.ca #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newshunter.cosy.sbg.ac.at!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <7ar6uh$oeh$16881@news.quebectel.com> Control: cancel <7ar6uh$oeh$16881@news.quebectel.com> Date: 22 Feb 1999 09:20:33 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: Shawn Astels Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newshub.nntp.mr.net!netnews.com!howland.erols.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.quebectel.com!news.quebectel.com!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: Last Day's Prophecy Website X-Original-Date: 22 Feb 1999 09:10:41 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-09.f1104.quebectel.com X-Original-From: Shawn Astels X-CosmoTraq: ]Q]D@QU X-Cancel-ID: 1L)@G!`CU;]'\8!:=(>3WW;RD,Q`4P7O=R&PBJ2WPP^F(L#\<(,U'Z=1 X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:6028413 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server6.netnews.ja.net!nntp.stir.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: mmltomif for FrameMaker 3.2 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:31:21 GMT Organization: University of Stirling Lines: 6 Message-ID: <990222093121.232AAFCK.kjt@brass> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 139.153.254.172 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: wallace.stir.ac.uk 919675647 4831 139.153.254.172 (22 Feb 1999 09:27:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@stir.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Feb 1999 09:27:27 GMT X-Newsreader: Eloquent[2.02]; Eloquent is a Trademark of Take 3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35499 My recollection is that there is a spurious error about "desiderata". I also recall that the supplied mmltomif gets the translation of various characters wrong. I had to write my own filter to correct this. However it sounds to me like you have $FMHOME set incorrectly. Ken Turner #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.pop.de!jupiter.NIC.DTAG.DE!news.online.de!not-for-mail!thomas From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RadicalNews Questions Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:30:57 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Lines: 20 Sender: thomas@news.online.de (thomas) Message-ID: <1999Feb22.113057.518@news.online.de> References: <36d082e6.1284667@news.alt.net> <7aq20d$3f1@ragnarok.en.uunet.de> <36d0c86f.8569802@news.alt.net> Reply-To: thf@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pc19f7a8b.dip.t-online.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Server-Date: 22 Feb 1999 11:08:48 GMT Cc: stiv@neitherherenorthere.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35500 In <36d0c86f.8569802@news.alt.net> stiv wrote: > platform is not an improvement) like offline reading, concurrent > downloading of headers and articles I don't think so. Look at > www.forteinc.com to see what exists elsewhere. I always use RadicalNews offline. I have a local CNEWS installation, fetch my news with "suck " and read it with RN. Works very well and is a much better solution than these Windows-All-in-One hacks. > If I remember right, RN was reviewed some time back by a group of > Newsreader critics who considered it a resource pig. Internet > unfriendly. There was a small uproar here about it. The reviewers were > correct in their assessment. No, this is not correct. RN is not a resource pig, very user friendly, just show me a Win-Newsreader with regex-filtering and the indexing of saved articles (integration with librarian). #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.idt.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!192.26.210.166!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.bctel.net!newsfeed.smartt.com!not-for-mail From: umiratel@nospam.smartt.com (David P) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: modem terminal software for NeXT Date: 22 Feb 1999 13:06:07 GMT Organization: KTK Communications Ltd. (http://www.smartt.com) Lines: 16 Message-ID: <7arknv$uqm$1@newsfeed.smartt.com> References: <7aoqr4$j7q$3@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: burn-mx03016.smartt.com X-Trace: newsfeed.smartt.com 919688767 31574 209.52.2.59 (22 Feb 1999 13:06:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.smartt.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Feb 1999 13:06:07 GMT X-Newsreader: Ink Spot 1.18 for Newton Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35501 In message <7aoqr4$j7q$3@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote: > > And 1 last question. Is NeXTSTEP 3.2 or my NeXTstation slab Y2K compliant?!?! > > nope but patches are Do you know where I can get the patches from and what are they name wise. Thanks. Remove nospam when emailing me -- Newton 2100 / PMac 7100/80 / NeXTstation Posted with Ink Spot 1.18 for the (Newton) from DejaVu Software, Inc. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!diablo.theplanet.net!remarQ-uK!remarQ.com!supernews.com!rQdQ!remarQ69!WReNclone!WReNphoon1.POSTED!WReN!not-for-mail From: mattklionsky@mailexcite.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to get sound & animation? Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5QfA2.12258$Vz3.105356672@WReNphoon1> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:17:02 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 10.0.3.176 X-Trace: WReNphoon1 919701889 10.0.3.176 (Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:44:49 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:44:49 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35502 I have a color turbo slab running NS v 3.2. I have the Foundation User patch, and the OmniWeb 2.7 browser. People have been sending me those wonderful animated greeting cards from Blue Mountain Arts (www.bluemountain.com). They are supposed to have sound and animation, but for me they are quiet and still. Has anyone in the NeXT environment figured out how to get them the way they are supposed to be? -**** Posted from remarQ, Discussions Start Here(tm) ****- http://www.remarq.com/ - Host to the the World's Discussions & Usenet