#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!128.158.254.10!news.msfc.nasa.gov!hammer.msfc.nasa.gov!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Sender: gericom@usa.net Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov Subject: cmsg cancel <75tbh9$gjq$2184@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it> Control: cancel <75tbh9$gjq$2184@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: hammer.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: http://www.msfc.nasa.gov Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:01:42 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Orig-Path: newsfeed.cwix.com!158.43.192.17!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!ams.news.uu.net!uunet!in5.uu.net!server-b.cs.interbusiness.it!not-for-mail X-Orig-Subject: The Interactive Dance Compilation you can play and Mix on your PC!! 8782 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.223.235.200 X-Cancel-ID: OK1%+QG>HV@&YG) Lines: 2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5597429 Canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.northeast.verio.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!netnews.com!news.megsinet.net!aol.com From: RajLamba@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cheap computers 50800 Date: Monday, 04 Jan 1999 21:14:41 -0600 Organization: MegsInet, Inc. - Low Cost, High Performance Internet Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <04019921.1441@aol.com> Reply-To: RajLamba@aol.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.81.229.131 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29198 Hello I have some 36bit 600x1200 scanners that i want to sell. Along with vidoe cards netwoking few other things you can see the list of things i have at http://members.xoom.com/RajLamba/comp.htm copy and paste the address. You are welcome to make an offer to me on any of those prices I will try my best to do whatever i can for you Thank you. Raj .AK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.165.3.11!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: gwolfe@primenet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Software to play NeXT score files on Windows/Linux...exists? Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 23:28:26 GMT Organization: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <36914def.27346064@news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-124-072.boi.primenet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@globalcenter.net X-Posted-By: @206.132.124.72 (gwolfe) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35069 comp.sys.next.advocacy:116618 comp.sys.next.misc:29199 Is there any software that will play NeXT score files...even playscore ported to win32/linux would be great. I found some score files that I would like to get converted to wav/au/snd etc. format. Thanks, Gary Wolfe gwolfe@primenet.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <3142915339621@digifix.com> Date: 10 Jan 1999 04:45:03 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 327 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <6325915944426@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:117059 comp.sys.next.announce:4869 comp.sys.next.hardware:35741 comp.sys.next.software:35135 comp.sys.next.misc:29200 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32613 comp.sys.next.bugs:5010 comp.sys.next.programmer:30229 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### From: ken (Ken Meyer) Subject: Daydream Problems X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:55:08 -0500 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!skynet.be!newsfeed.ecrc.net!arl-news-svc-3.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!nntp-nih2naab.compuserve.com Lines: 17 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29201 I'm having some problems with using the Quix Daydream that I think some of you probably have solved. I'd appreciate any help you can offer me. 1) The NeXT Laser Printer Driver bombs everytime. I have v1.12, and there should be a v1.13. 2) I cannot seem to do any printing out of the Serial Port to my DeskJet, even though I am using a driver that should do it. Any info on handshake or pins to use? 3) So far, cannot access Web under Daydream using MS Navigator because it says Virtual Memory option isn't selected. It's not available in my memory control panel to select. I'm using Mac OS 7.5.5. Any help would be appreciated. As far as I know there's NO Support Groups or anything for Daydream. Thanks, Ken Meyer (email is:) 76400.34@compuserve.com #################################################################### From: ken (Ken Meyer) Subject: Daydream X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <#xpsOlLP#GA.260@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:50:18 -0500 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!netnews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!WCG!arl-news-svc-3.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!nntp-ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com Lines: 17 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29202 I'm having some problems with using the Quix Daydream that I think some of you probably have solved. I'd appreciate any help you can offer me. 1) The NeXT Laser Printer Driver bombs everytime. I have v1.12, and there should be a v1.13. 2) I cannot seem to do any printing out of the Serial Port to my DeskJet, even though I am using a driver that should do it. Any info on handshake or pins to use? 3) So far, cannot access Web under Daydream using MS Navigator because it says Virtual Memory option isn't selected. It's not available in my memory control panel to select. I'm using Mac OS 7.5.5. Any help would be appreciated. As far as I know there's NO Support Groups or anything for Daydream. Thanks, Ken Meyer (email is:) 76400.34@compuserve.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!remarQ73!supernews.com!remarQ69!not-for-mail From: Greg Davis Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Daydream Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:27:36 -0500 Organization: FMA141 Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3698FF28.762A@mail.visuallink.com> References: <#xpsOlLP#GA.260@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com> Reply-To: gregor@mail.visuallink.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.151.88.110 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 915996114 GNLKKBBSV586ECE97C usenet87.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@remarQ.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29203 Ken Meyer wrote: > > I'm having some problems with using the Quix Daydream that I think some of > you probably have solved. I'd appreciate any help you can offer me. > 1) The NeXT Laser Printer Driver bombs everytime. I have v1.12, and there > should be a v1.13. > 2) I cannot seem to do any printing out of the Serial Port to my DeskJet, > even though I am using a driver that should do it. Any info on handshake or > pins to use? > 3) So far, cannot access Web under Daydream using MS Navigator because it > says Virtual Memory option isn't selected. It's not available in my memory > control panel to select. I'm using Mac OS 7.5.5. > > Any help would be appreciated. As far as I know there's NO Support Groups or > anything for Daydream. > > Thanks, > Ken Meyer (email is:) 76400.34@compuserve.com Ken: I'll check out what version printer driver I have (I know it works) and I can NeXTMail it to you. The pin outs are different for the NeXT and Mac, so you'll need a custom cable to print to your Deskjet. These can be made by a decent cable outfit listed in computer shopper. I'll see if I can find the pinouts for you. As for Web browser, I'm still using version 2 of Netscape, since v3.0 was doing some strange things. V2 works fine for me. best regards gregor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!128.158.254.10!news.msfc.nasa.gov!hammer.msfc.nasa.gov!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Sender: RajLamba@aol.com Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov Subject: cmsg cancel <04019921.1441@aol.com> Control: cancel <04019921.1441@aol.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: hammer.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: http://www.msfc.nasa.gov Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 03:55:51 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Orig-Path: newsfeed.cwix.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!netnews.com!news.megsinet.net!aol.com X-Orig-Subject: Cheap computers 50800 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.81.229.131 X-Cancel-ID: H)5U(%YQ6=0:2UUSI[JLO-#%I5".H8D$2GN-H]?JW.P`]=6`OM&Y-'JK Lines: 2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5659520 Canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!nntp.primenet.com!207.126.101.60.MISMATCH!remarQ60!supernews.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.az.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <369C34F5.DDC0D8CF@home.com> From: Chevell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Openstep 4.2 on Black HW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 05:53:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.1.227.149 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.az.home.com 916206835 24.1.227.149 (Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:53:55 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:53:55 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29204 I am in the midst of trying to install OPENSTEP 4.2 over NeXTSTEP 3.1 on a NeXTStation color turbo. I get the following error when planing the upgrade with the upgrader.app on the OS4.2 CD: objc: IXStoreFile: does not recognize selector-blockExists: I got the SW from an undisclosed source and have no reading materials. I have no idea if I'm going about this the right way. I don't care about loosing the data on the drive if I have to, I just need to get this thing up and running ASAP. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --Chevell #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.enteract.com!not-for-mail From: Dimitris Krekoukias Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does an Openstep 4.2 CD work on both Motorola & Intel? Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:55:04 +0000 Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Lines: 11 Message-ID: <369CDDF8.B33F9EFA@enteract.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.229.148.198 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29205 comp.sys.next.hardware:35780 Hello all, Got a question Does an Openstep 4.2 CD work on both Motorola & Intel? I'm under the impression this is so, but I'd appreciate it if someone confirmed this for sure. Thanks, Dimitris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.cwix.com!130.185.14.36!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Does an Openstep 4.2 CD work on both Motorola & Intel? Date: 14 Jan 1999 00:57:17 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 15 Message-ID: <916275437.11578@watserv5.uwaterloo.ca> References: <369CDDF8.B33F9EFA@enteract.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watserv5.uwaterloo.ca Cache-Post-Path: watserv5.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29206 In article <369CDDF8.B33F9EFA@enteract.com>, Dimitris Krekoukias wrote: > >Does an Openstep 4.2 CD work on both Motorola & Intel? I'm under the >impression this is so, but I'd appreciate it if someone confirmed this >for sure. > Yes. And SPARC too! -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.11 R/A2720 via [DOS/NCBMail V2.22 REL.:200196] Message-ID: <78k6XX4epWB@p0000148.jakebox.sax.east.de> X-Gateway: ZCONNECT MM jakebox.sax.east.de [DUUCP vom 01.07.1994] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: a.berger@jakebox.sax.east.de (Andreas Berger) Subject: Q:gcc for openstep/m68k Date: 12 Jan 1999 12:46:00 +0100 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!primusnetz.de!primus.baynet.de!wuff.mayn.de!jakebox.sax.east.de!a.berger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Distribution: world Lines: 6 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29207 Hi, is there a precompiled gcc for openstep/m68k available? The gcc2.8.1- sources seems only to know about NeXTstep[2|3]? Bye, Andreas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.tu-darmstadt.de!not-for-mail From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does an Openstep 4.2 CD work on both Motorola & Intel? Date: 14 Jan 1999 11:32:32 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Lines: 16 Message-ID: <77kkkg$raj$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <369CDDF8.B33F9EFA@enteract.com> Reply-To: neuss.nos-pam@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam NNTP-Posting-Host: piripiri.pi.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29208 comp.sys.next.hardware:35786 Dimitris Krekoukias wrote: >Hello all, > >Got a question > >Does an Openstep 4.2 CD work on both Motorola & Intel? I'm under the >impression this is so, but I'd appreciate it if someone confirmed this >for sure. Yup.. am unsure though whether 4.2 contains a complete set of floppies, but I seem to remember it did. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!netnews.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.enteract.com!not-for-mail From: Dimitris Krekoukias Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does an Openstep 4.2 CD work on both Motorola & Intel? Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:28:58 +0000 Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Lines: 22 Message-ID: <369E295A.13E84319@enteract.com> References: <369CDDF8.B33F9EFA@enteract.com> <77kkkg$raj$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.229.148.9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29209 comp.sys.next.hardware:35795 Oh, I can re-create the floppies easily from boot images on the net. Thanks guys! Christian Neuss wrote: > > Dimitris Krekoukias wrote: > >Hello all, > > > >Got a question > > > >Does an Openstep 4.2 CD work on both Motorola & Intel? I'm under the > >impression this is so, but I'd appreciate it if someone confirmed this > >for sure. > > Yup.. am unsure though whether 4.2 contains a complete set of > floppies, but I seem to remember it did. > > Chris > -- > // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." > // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newshub.northeast.verio.net!newsfeed.nyu.edu!newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu!not-for-mail From: ff48@NoSPAM.columbia.edu (Frederic Foucault) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Daydream Date: 15 Jan 1999 02:04:30 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 34 Message-ID: <77m7ne$hv0$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu> References: <#xpsOlLP#GA.260@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com> <3698FF28.762A@mail.visuallink.com> <#CCQweOP#GA.145@ntawwabp.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-1-70.cc.columbia.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu 916365870 18400 128.59.42.79 (15 Jan 1999 02:04:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: postmaster@columbia.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jan 1999 02:04:30 GMT X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29210 ken (Ken Meyer) wrote: >Thanks Gregor. I greatly appreciate the insight and the DJ driver. I >can easily make the cable. I have pinouts for NeXT and traditional >MAC, but didn't know what Daydream sets things up to expect (maybe >it's the driver that sets it up?) > >Does your Daydream have the NeXT Printer Driver embedded in it? If >you look at the driver under the Mac desktop, and get info, it tells >you the version. If yours shows v1.13, I'd really appreciate an >update. I'll pay for a floppy and mailing and some for your troubles >for helping. I have the NeXT Printer Driver v.1.13 if you are still interested. I can send it to you by e-mail. No floppy needed. It Works fine with the NeXT printer. I don't know for another printer. >I'll get the Netscape v2 and try it. Try Netscape Navigator V3.04 with freeppp v5.2. It runs without any problem. It is even very good and suprisingly fast. you need to increase the memory required to launch it. Under the file menu select "get info" to increase the memeory allocated to Netscape. When it has 30Mb of memory space, it is OK. >Ken Meyer Sincerely, -- Frederic Foucault, Ph.D. Department of Genetics and Development Phone: (212) 305-1734 College of Physicians & Surgeons hhsc1606 FAX: (212) 923-2090 Columbia University 701 West 168th Street Email : ff48@columbia.edu New York, NY 10032 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!howland.erols.net!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Openstep 4.2 on Black HW X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <369C34F5.DDC0D8CF@home.com> Lines: 19 Message-ID: <1jHn2.874$TU6.1685594@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:23:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.225 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916406589 209.212.132.225 (Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:23:09 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:23:09 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29211 In <369C34F5.DDC0D8CF@home.com> Chevell wrote: > > I am in the midst of trying to install OPENSTEP 4.2 over NeXTSTEP 3.1 on > a NeXTStation color turbo. I get the following error when planing the > upgrade with the upgrader.app on the OS4.2 CD: I don't think you can do an upgrade. You need to do a total installation, which will wipe your disks clean of everything previously on there. TjL -- "I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that was possible. Then it dawned on me..... AOL is sending out CDs now." - me (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.210.0.20!news.san.rr.com!not-for-mail From: "Steve Biskis" Subject: NS3.3 Y2K Preferences Patch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Message-ID: <01be40c9$677222d0$080216c0@newt> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Lines: 2241 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:55:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.22.126 X-Trace: news.san.rr.com 916433734 204.210.22.126 (Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:55:34 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:55:34 PDT Organization: TWC Road Runner, San Diego, CA Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32669 comp.sys.next.software:35197 comp.sys.next.misc:29212 comp.sys.next.programmer:30256 Hello All, There has been sufficient interest to the point where I'd better post this: Patch for Preferences under NeXTSTEP 3.3 I modified the Gnu sh-utils-1.16 date source to recognize Preference's "proprietary" set command format. date automatically differentiates the Prefs call from the standard set format so that all the other options should still work as advertised by --usage. Here's what to do: 1> Make sure that you are root . 2> cd to /usr/lib/Preferences . 3> PLEASE backup the date utility that is now there by say, mv date.Y1.9K or something . 4> Now copy the new date utility to /usr/lib/Preferences and watch Preferences forge ahead into the future. 5> Don't forget to replace the one in /bin as well ... I haven't messed around with any of the other problem utilities. With the possible exception of nroff/troff, I don't use any of them directly. I'm not at all sure how problematic they could prove to be in their current state. But what I'm most concerned about is what may still lay undiscovered due to lack of interest on Apple's part. I'm guessing that the only problems mentioned for NeXTSTEP are those that were found while scurrying to rescue OpenStep !!! Maybe there are no additional NS-specific problems to worry about but due to Apple's lack of support - who knows? If anybody out there discovers any new NS3.3 Y2K problems or solutions PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE respond in kind. Lets not get beat by this - we've still got time !!! da bisk P.S. 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A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. 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Lee echo4@erols.com NeXTMail, SUN, MIME OK! /==========================/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.bb.bawue.de!eskimo.bb.bawue.de!root From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Recycler Date: 20 Jan 1999 06:52:53 GMT Organization: "private site" Lines: 16 Message-ID: <783ug5$fc@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Reply-To: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.197.13.41 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29219 Hi, is it possible to use the "recycler" on a mounted Linux filesystem with OS4.2? Everytime I delete files on the mounted partition I get something like "no recycler on that partition, do you want to delete the file". I would like the recycler working on this partition, too. -- Juergen _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!nntp2.cerf.net!nntp3.cerf.net!news.san.rr.com!not-for-mail From: "Steve Biskis" Subject: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Lines: 569 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:54:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.22.126 X-Trace: news.san.rr.com 916840486 204.210.22.126 (Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:54:46 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:54:46 PDT Organization: TWC Road Runner, San Diego, CA Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32704 comp.sys.next.programmer:30275 comp.sys.next.misc:29220 comp.sys.next.software:35236 Interesting, My last post seems to have been retroactively deleted from all the newsboards so here it is again with some adjustments: I assume the moderator doesn't want binaries attached. --- Hello All, There has been sufficient interest to the point where I'd better post this: Patch for Preferences under NeXTSTEP 3.3 I modified the Gnu sh-utils-1.16 date source to recognize Preference's "proprietary" set command format. This modified date.c automatically differentiates the Prefs call from the standard set format so that all the other options should still work as advertised by --usage. Here's what to do: 1> ftp to ftp.gnu.org and download the sh-utils-1.16 distribution. 2> backup the stock version of date.c that came with it and copy my modified version in its place. 3> configure & compile date 4> Now, to install, 1st make sure that you are root . 5> cd to /usr/lib/Preferences . 6> PLEASE backup the date utility that is now there by say, mv date.Y1.9K or something . 7> Now copy the new date utility to /usr/lib/Preferences and watch Preferences forge ahead into the future. 8> Don't forget to replace the one in /bin as well ... For those of you who don't/can't download or compile, I can send you a dual-FAT binary: m68k/i386 of date. Sorry, I don't run Sun or HP ... (yet) - Perhaps someone more connected than myself can build a quad FAT version and make it available along with the simple install directions. As time goes by more folks are bound to want it. I haven't messed around with any of the other problem utilities. With the possible exception of nroff/troff, I don't use any of them directly. I'm not at all sure how problematic they could prove to be in their current state. But what I'm most concerned about is what may still lay undiscovered due to lack of interest on Apple's part. I'm guessing that the only problems mentioned for NeXTSTEP are those that were found while scurrying to rescue OpenStep !!! Maybe there are no additional NS-specific problems to worry about but due to Apple's lack of support - who knows? If anybody out there discovers any new NS3.3 Y2K problems or solutions PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE respond in kind. Lets not get beat by this - we've still got time !!! da bisk P.S. In the spirit of CopyLeft, here's the source: ********** BEGIN: date.c ********** /* date - print or set the system date and time Copyright (C) 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. David MacKenzie 11/26/98 NeXT Y2K Patched Version: Steve Biskis Look for the AREAS marked BISK for what has been alterred ... */ #include #include #include #include #include "system.h" #include "getline.h" #include "error.h" #include "getdate.h" #ifndef STDC_HEADERS size_t strftime (); time_t time (); #endif int putenv (); int stime (); char *xrealloc (); time_t posixtime (); static void show_date __P ((const char *format, time_t when)); static void usage __P ((int status)); /* The name this program was run with, for error messages. */ char *program_name; /* If nonzero, display usage information and exit. */ static int show_help; /* If nonzero, print the version on standard output and exit. */ static int show_version; /* If non-zero, display time in RFC-822 format for mail or news. */ static int rfc_format = 0; /* If nonzero, print or set Coordinated Universal Time. */ static int universal_time = 0; static struct option const long_options[] = { {"date", required_argument, NULL, 'd'}, {"file", required_argument, NULL, 'f'}, {"help", no_argument, &show_help, 1}, {"reference", required_argument, NULL, 'r'}, {"rfc-822", no_argument, NULL, 'R'}, {"set", required_argument, NULL, 's'}, {"uct", no_argument, NULL, 'u'}, {"utc", no_argument, NULL, 'u'}, {"universal", no_argument, NULL, 'u'}, {"version", no_argument, &show_version, 1}, {NULL, 0, NULL, 0} }; // BISK: new function ... static time_t parseDateStr( const char *datestr ) { int n; struct timeval tv; struct tm timeObj, *tmp; char *bp, buf[4], dateStr[16]; if ( !datestr ) return -1; if ( (bp=strchr(datestr,'.')) ) { // NeXT Preferences Format ??? if ( strlen(bp)!=3 || strlen(datestr)<13 ) return -1; sprintf(dateStr,"%.10s%.2s",bp-10,bp+1); } else sprintf(dateStr,"%.12s",datestr); n=strlen(dateStr); if ( n!=4 && n!=6 && n!=10 && n!=12 ) return -1; bp=dateStr; bzero(&timeObj,sizeof(timeObj)); if ( n==10 || n==12 ) { // setting date AND time ... sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_year=atoi(buf); if ( timeObj.tm_year<50 ) timeObj.tm_year+=100; bp+=2; sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_mon=atoi(buf)-1; bp+=2; sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_mday=atoi(buf); bp+=2; } else { gettimeofday(&tv,NULL); tmp=localtime(&tv.tv_sec); timeObj.tm_year=tmp->tm_year; timeObj.tm_mon=tmp->tm_mon; timeObj.tm_mday=tmp->tm_mday; } sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_hour=atoi(buf); bp+=2; sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_min=atoi(buf); bp+=2; if ( *bp ) { sprintf(buf,"%.2s",bp); timeObj.tm_sec=atoi(buf); } return mktime(&timeObj); } /* Parse each line in INPUT_FILENAME as with --date and display the each resulting time and date. If the file cannot be opened, tell why then exit. Issue a diagnostic for any lines that cannot be parsed. If any line cannot be parsed, return nonzero; otherwise return zero. */ static int batch_convert (const char *input_filename, const char *format) { int status; FILE *in_stream; char *line; int line_length; size_t buflen; time_t when; if (strcmp (input_filename, "-") == 0) { input_filename = _("standard input"); in_stream = stdin; } else { in_stream = fopen (input_filename, "r"); if (in_stream == NULL) { error (1, errno, "`%s'", input_filename); } } line = NULL; buflen = 0; status = 0; while (1) { line_length = getline (&line, &buflen, in_stream); if (line_length < 0) { /* FIXME: detect/handle error here. */ break; } when = get_date (line, NULL); if (when == -1) { if (line[line_length - 1] == '\n') line[line_length - 1] = '\0'; error (0, 0, _("invalid date ` %s'"), line); status = 1; } else { show_date (format, when); } } if (fclose (in_stream) == EOF) error (2, errno, input_filename); if (line != NULL) free (line); return status; } int main ( int argc, char **argv ) { int optc; const char *datestr=NULL; const char *set_datestr=NULL; time_t when; int set_date = 0; char *format; char *batch_file=NULL; char *reference=NULL; struct stat refstats; int n_args; int status; int option_specified_date; program_name=argv[0]; setlocale(LC_ALL, ""); bindtextdomain(PACKAGE,LOCALEDIR); textdomain(PACKAGE); while ( (optc=getopt_long(argc,argv,"d:f:r:Rs:u",long_options, NULL) )!=EOF ) switch( optc ) { case 0: break; case 'd': datestr=optarg; break; case 'f': batch_file=optarg; break; case 'r': reference=optarg; break; case 'R': rfc_format=1; break; case 's': set_datestr=optarg; set_date=1; break; case 'u': universal_time=1; if ( putenv("TZ=UTC0")!=0 ) error (1,0,"memory exhausted"); #if LOCALTIME_CACHE tzset(); #endif break; default: usage(1); } if ( show_version ) { printf("date (%s) %s\n",GNU_PACKAGE,VERSION); exit(0); } if ( show_help ) usage(0); n_args=argc-optind; option_specified_date = ((datestr?1:0)+(batch_file?1:0)+(reference?1:0)); if ( option_specified_date>1 ) { error(0,0, _("the options to specify dates for printing are mutually exclusive") ); usage (1); } if ( set_date && option_specified_date ) { error(0,0, _("the options to print and set the time may not be used together") ); usage (1); } if ( n_args>1 ) { error(0,0,_("too many non-option arguments")); usage (1); } if ( (set_date || option_specified_date) && n_args==1 && argv[optind][0]!='+' ) { error(0,0,_("\ the argument `%s' lacks a leading `+';\n\ when using an option to specify date(s), any\n\ non-option argument must be a format string beginning with `+'"), argv[optind]); usage (1); } if ( set_date ) datestr=set_datestr; if ( batch_file!=NULL ) status = batch_convert(batch_file,(n_args==1?argv[optind]+1:NULL)); else { status=0; if ( !option_specified_date && !set_date ) { if ( n_args==1 && argv[optind][0]!='+' ) { /* Prepare to set system clock to the specified date/time given in the POSIX-format. */ set_date=1; datestr=argv[optind]; // BISK: changed ... //when = posixtime (datestr); when=parseDateStr(datestr); format=NULL; } else { /* Prepare to print the current date/time. */ datestr=_("undefined"); time(&when); format=(n_args==1?argv[optind]+1:NULL); } } else /* (option_specified_date || set_date) */ { if ( reference!=NULL ) { if ( stat(reference,&refstats) ) error(1,errno,"%s",reference); when = refstats.st_mtime; } else when=get_date (datestr,NULL); format=(n_args==1?argv[optind]+1:NULL); } if ( when==-1 ) error (1,0,_("invalid date `%s'"),datestr); if ( set_date ) { /* Set the system clock to the specified date, then regardless of the success of that operation, format and print that date. */ if ( stime(&when)==-1 ) error(0,errno,_("cannot set date")); } show_date (format, when); } if ( fclose(stdout)==EOF ) error(2,errno,_("write error")); exit (status); } /* Display the date and/or time in WHEN according to the format specified in FORMAT, followed by a newline. If FORMAT is NULL, use the standard output format (ctime style but with a timezone inserted). */ static void show_date (const char *format, time_t when) { struct tm *tm; char *out = NULL; size_t out_length = 0; tm = localtime (&when); if (format == NULL) { /* Print the date in the default format. Vanilla ANSI C strftime doesn't support %e, but POSIX requires it. If you don't use a GNU strftime, make sure yours supports %e. If you are not using GNU strftime, you want to change %z in the RFC format to %Z; this gives, however, an invalid RFC time format outside the continental United States and GMT. */ format = (rfc_format ? (universal_time ? "%a, %_d %b %Y %H:%M:%S GMT" : "%a, %_d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %z") : "%a %b %e %H:%M:%S %Z %Y"); } else if (*format == '\0') { printf ("\n"); return; } do { out_length += 200; out = (char *) xrealloc (out, out_length); } while (strftime (out, out_length, format, tm) == 0); printf ("%s\n", out); free (out); } static void usage (int status) { if (status != 0) fprintf (stderr, _("Try `%s --help' for more information.\n"), program_name); else { printf (_("\ Usage: %s [OPTION]... [+FORMAT]\n\ or: %s [OPTION] [MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]]\n\ "), program_name, program_name); printf (_("\ Display the current time in the given FORMAT, or set the system date.\n\ \n\ -d, --date=STRING display time described by STRING, not `now'\n\ -f, --file=DATEFILE like --date once for each line of DATEFILE\n\ -r, --reference=FILE display the last modification time of FILE\n\ -R, --rfc-822 output RFC-822 compliant date string\n\ -s, --set=STRING set time described by STRING\n\ -u, --utc, --universal print or set Coordinated Universal Time\n\ --help display this help and exit\n\ --version output version information and exit\n\ ")); printf (_("\ \n\ FORMAT controls the output. The only valid option for the second form\n\ specifies Coordinated Universal Time. Interpreted sequences are:\n\ \n\ %%%% a literal %%\n\ %%a locale's abbreviated weekday name (Sun..Sat)\n\ %%A locale's full weekday name, variable length (Sunday..Saturday)\n\ %%b locale's abbreviated month name (Jan..Dec)\n\ %%B locale's full month name, variable length (January..December)\n\ %%c locale's date and time (Sat Nov 04 12:02:33 EST 1989)\n\ %%d day of month (01..31)\n\ %%D date (mm/dd/yy)\n\ %%e day of month, blank padded ( 1..31)\n\ %%h same as %%b\n\ %%H hour (00..23)\n\ %%I hour (01..12)\n\ %%j day of year (001..366)\n\ %%k hour ( 0..23)\n\ %%l hour ( 1..12)\n\ %%m month (01..12)\n\ %%M minute (00..59)\n\ %%n a newline\n\ %%p locale's AM or PM\n\ %%r time, 12-hour (hh:mm:ss [AP]M)\n\ %%s seconds since 00:00:00, Jan 1, 1970 (a GNU extension)\n\ %%S second (00..61)\n\ %%t a horizontal tab\n\ %%T time, 24-hour (hh:mm:ss)\n\ %%U week number of year with Sunday as first day of week (00..53)\n\ %%V week number of year with Monday as first day of week (01..52)\n\ %%w day of week (0..6); 0 represents Sunday\n\ %%W week number of year with Monday as first day of week (00..53)\n\ %%x locale's date representation (mm/dd/yy)\n\ %%X locale's time representation (%%H:%%M:%%S)\n\ %%y last two digits of year (00..99)\n\ %%Y year (1970...)\n\ %%z RFC-822 style numeric timezone (-0500) (a nonstandard extension)\n\ %%Z time zone (e.g., EDT), or nothing if no time zone is determinable\n\ \n\ By default, date pads numeric fields with zeroes. GNU date recognizes\n\ the following modifiers between `%%' and a numeric directive.\n\ \n\ `-' (hyphen) do not pad the field\n\ `_' (underscore) pad the field with spaces\n\ ")); puts (_("\nReport bugs to sh-utils-bugs@gnu.ai.mit.edu")); } exit (status); } ********** END: date.c ********** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.rhein-neckar.de!news.ifi.unizh.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!boulder!pb From: pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Openstep 4.2 on Black HW Date: 18 Jan 1999 21:29:39 GMT Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 34 Message-ID: <780943$nv0@lace.colorado.edu> References: <369C34F5.DDC0D8CF@home.com> <1jHn2.874$TU6.1685594@newshog.newsread.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: morse.colorado.edu NNTP-Posting-User: pb Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29221 In article <1jHn2.874$TU6.1685594@newshog.newsread.com>, TjL wrote: >In <369C34F5.DDC0D8CF@home.com> Chevell wrote: >> >> I am in the midst of trying to install OPENSTEP 4.2 over NeXTSTEP 3.1 on >> a NeXTStation color turbo. I get the following error when planing the >> upgrade with the upgrader.app on the OS4.2 CD: > >I don't think you can do an upgrade. > >You need to do a total installation, which will wipe your disks clean of >everything previously on there. > >TjL > >-- >"I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that >was possible. Then it dawned on me..... > AOL is sending out CDs now." - me >(Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) > I recently upgraded from 3.2 to 4.2, and it worked just fine (as far as I can tell). I was installing onto a "new" full height drive, and I don't have a case for a full height drive, so I couldn't use builddisk, and I don't have a boot floppy for 4.2, but I do have one for 3.2 So, I loaded 3.2, and then upgraded to 4.2, with no problems. I don't see why 3.1 should be different from 3.2, but I have never used 3.1. I'm sure that someone will enlighten me, if I am incorrect. Good luck. PB Schechter pb@colorado.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.150.97.11!feeder.qis.net!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep v3.3 Y2K Patch (again) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01be447c$75b4cfd0$080216c0@newt> Lines: 20 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 03:45:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.98 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 916890345 209.212.132.98 (Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:45:45 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:45:45 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32716 comp.sys.next.programmer:30280 comp.sys.next.misc:29222 comp.sys.next.software:35241 NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE A) Binaries should not be posted to non-binary groups. I just had to watch my wheel spin as your binary was downloaded through my 28.8 connection. Usenet is not the place for file distribution (that's why FTP was invented). Usenet feeds expire, people may or may not want the binary you just forced on them, etc (Plus I'm willing to be you violated the Usenet AUP for RR.com) B) Your message was not needed to be crossposted, and violated the guidelines for these groups C) Your efforts, while appreciated, are duplications of efforts already made. There was a replacement `date' command put on the FTP sites some time ago D) These little commands are not what I worry about, it is the frameworks used for 3.3 that worry me (how will they work after y2k?). TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!news1.spb.su!news.RUNNet.ru!news.metrocom.ru!not-for-mail From: Pavel Korolov Newsgroups: comp.jobs,comp.mail.misc,comp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Ideas Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:37:47 +0300 Organization: Atlant ISP Lines: 44 Message-ID: <36A6065A.2A3DEAAC@atlant.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: fproxy.atlant.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.metrocom.ru 916850794 1397 195.5.132.60 (20 Jan 1999 16:46:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.metrocom.ru NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jan 1999 16:46:34 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Cache-Post-Path: fproxy.atlant.ru!unknown@dialhost3.atlant.ru X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.mail.misc:37733 comp.misc:44433 comp.sys.next.misc:29223 Hi! Excuse for bad English. There are 2 non-standard ideas, by embodying which in life it is possible to receive any income. I am independent because of absence of the finance can not to undertake one of them, there can be someone any will become interested by idea and for want of my sharing or without mine (whom the old man - programmer is necessary) make for them. 1. As everyone know, Internet who strongly has come life and if to it has touched, it any more from such convenient and operating method of information interchange. The truth, the computer, and that is necessary for this purpose to do(make), if it is not present also money is not present and is not expected, and it would be desirable fast for day - two to sell without the intermediaries sale the camera to change a villa In California on a tent in Flood to get acquainted with girl and to not skip at this time important bell from office. It is enough to remove handset of the telephone and through Voice mail to receive everything. The truth for this purpose is required to enclose about $ 20000 - $ 60000 only for it is possible to entangle creations of one node in large city, and then by network other cities and to leave adroad. 2. As everyone know, now people work on computers, and it is time already and on the contrary. Let computers independently work, and the people attend by more useful and necessary businesses. Profit for all people in all countries is obvious, and children's approach Bill Geits to operation kill of itself. It is necessary will feed group of the programmers within 4-6 years (instead of 12 years, as Win'95), and then to distribute centres, of new on, worldwide. It is written not for discussions (them it is possible for a message indefinitely and without me), and for concrete business. All have much other good and more real ideas and if I have written it, it does not mean, that I cleverest, and it is simple the last sigh falling of the person. E-mail is valid till 25.01.99 inclusively, after that with me It will be impossible to communicate. It is desirable to answer in Russian. -- Pavel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <787mru$32n$12250@news01.roka.net> Control: cancel <787mru$32n$12250@news01.roka.net> Date: 21 Jan 1999 17:08:11 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: steffi@pointofmail.de Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!-program!news-hh.maz.net!news-fra.maz.net!news01.roka.net!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: NEW !!! www.camsex.de X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:04:25 PST X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.97.40.117 X-Original-From: steffi@pointofmail.de X-Original-X-Trace: news01.roka.net 916938430 3159 194.97.40.117 (21 Jan 1999 17:07:10 GMT) X-CosmoTraq: *R"K=/O8Q>IJWT@V6CD(`,Y%K0F`DJ"YV2/07"0<=^!2(S[84N%.I"4E X-Cancel-ID: =L^3C@XAQ_)4(8WF#R(?[*;_P[X^4? NNTP-Posting-Host: lin-pm2-011.inetnebr.com X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 X-Face: &@UA7$)=n9C7!qu%-5s},3tR@NEy+B>8PW"^,8?A>%."0{J2c1Yr]NKw';5/( J\r@/{UADjCdE~iRnOEOfbre(/1Y=$TS3Wt7B`a4sz, Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FS: In Delaware Valley, NextStep 3.1/Intel w/ Development Kit + All Books Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:48:55 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 13 Message-ID: <78904e$f30$1@camel21.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cf.cd.cb.f3 X-Server-Date: 22 Jan 1999 04:51:26 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29225 For Sale (In Delaware Valley): NextStep 3.1 OS NextStep 3.1 Developers Kit All the developers manuals/books $200 Reply by mail. Niraj #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.cwix.com!192.223.210.68!news-srv1.fmr.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <36A8A49C.3AB45D65@earthlink.net> From: Andrew Robertson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-FISC-01 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.jobs,comp.mail.misc,comp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Ideas References: <36A6065A.2A3DEAAC@atlant.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 49 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:17:32 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.199.136.114 X-Complaints-To: usenet@mirkwood.fmr.com X-Trace: news-srv1.fmr.com 917021702 137.199.136.114 (Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:15:02 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:15:02 EDT Organization: Fidelity Investments Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.mail.misc:37752 comp.misc:44461 comp.sys.next.misc:29226 What??????????????? I am totally lost here. Pavel Korolov wrote: > Hi! > > Excuse for bad English. > There are 2 non-standard ideas, by embodying which in life it is > possible to receive any income. I am independent because of absence of > the finance can not to undertake one of them, there can be someone any > will become interested by idea and for want of my sharing or without > mine (whom the old man - programmer is necessary) make for them. > 1. As everyone know, Internet who strongly has come life and if to > it > has touched, it any more from such convenient and operating method of > information interchange. The truth, the computer, and that is necessary > for this purpose to do(make), if it is not present also money is not > present and is not expected, and it would be desirable fast for day - > two to sell without the intermediaries sale the camera to change a villa > In California on a tent in Flood to get acquainted with girl and to not > skip at this time important bell from office. It is enough to remove > handset of the telephone and through Voice mail to receive everything. > The truth for this purpose is required to enclose about $ 20000 - $ > 60000 only for it is possible to entangle creations of one node in large > city, and then by network other cities and to leave adroad. > 2. As everyone know, now people work on computers, and it is time > already and on the contrary. Let computers independently work, and the > people attend by more useful and necessary businesses. Profit for all > people in all countries is obvious, and children's approach Bill Geits > to operation kill of itself. It is necessary will feed group of the > programmers within 4-6 years (instead of 12 years, as Win'95), and then > to distribute centres, of new on, worldwide. > > It is written not for discussions (them it is possible for a message > indefinitely and without me), and for concrete business. All have much > other good and more real ideas and if I have written it, it does not > mean, that I cleverest, and it is simple the last sigh falling of the > person. > E-mail is valid till 25.01.99 inclusively, after that with me > It will be impossible to communicate. It is desirable to answer in > Russian. > > -- > Pavel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!not-for-mail From: Ryan Scott Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Ideas Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 23 Jan 1999 01:19:42 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 32 Message-ID: <78b83e$mpo$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <36A6065A.2A3DEAAC@atlant.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: luke.engr.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Cc: pampas@atlant.ru Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29227 NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC In <36A6065A.2A3DEAAC@atlant.ru> Pavel Korolov wrote: > Hi! > > Excuse for bad English. > There are 2 non-standard ideas, by embodying which in life it is [snip] > person. > E-mail is valid till 25.01.99 inclusively, after that with me > It will be impossible to communicate. It is desirable to answer in > Russian. > > This is basically unreadable. Was it translated using some translation engine (like altavista)? Or is your english really that bad? Try to have someone or something with better english skills translate for you. -- ________________________________________________ Ryan P. Scott Laser and Electro-Optics Research Group UC Davis - Department of Applied Science Tel: (530)754-4358 Fax: (530)752-1652 Email: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu ________________________________________________ #################################################################### Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:44:23 -0800 From: max@maxgraphic.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: using a NextStation as a fax server Message-ID: Organization: Maxgraphic X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.180.197.180 X-Trace: 23 Jan 1999 18:44:22 +0600, 209.180.197.180 Lines: 12 X-Report: Report abuse to abuse@uswest.net. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.corridex.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.uswest.net!news1.uswest.net!max Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.soft-sys.nextstep:3619 comp.sys.next.misc:29228 comp.sys.next.programmer:30290 comp.sys.next.software:35273 I have a four-node AppleTalk network on 10baseT. I'm interested in using a mono NextStation as a fax server with NXFax, but I can't figure out if NXFax clients have to be running NEXTSTEP. I'd like to be able to use a the standard LaserWriter 8 driver from a Mac to send a print job to the NextStation via ethernet, then enter the fax info at the NextStation, and have it raster the PostScript and send it out. Is this possible? Thanks for any info. (Thanks also to Timothy Luoma for suggesting NXFax.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!noos.hooked.net!204.50.15.201.MISMATCH!cleavage.canuck.com!not-for-mail From: "Alex Molochnikov" Newsgroups: comp.jobs,comp.mail.misc,comp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Ideas Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:22:50 -0700 Organization: Canada Connect Corp. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <78dskb$28j$1@cleavage.canuck.com> References: <36A6065A.2A3DEAAC@atlant.ru> <36A8A49C.3AB45D65@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ccc015.canuck.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.mail.misc:37773 comp.misc:44486 comp.sys.next.misc:29229 Andrew Robertson wrote in message <36A8A49C.3AB45D65@earthlink.net>... >What??????????????? > >I am totally lost here. > >Pavel Korolov wrote: [snip the bad English - i.e. everything] I made a feeble attempt to reverse-translate this from English back into my native Russian... no way. I am just as lost as everyone else. I would advise Pavel to post his message in Russian, using Cyrillic alphabet, and I will translate it in English, re-post and possibly respond. BTW, I am not sure that this group is the right place for his message; perhaps, if I see it in Russian, I will be able to get a feel for it. Alex Molochnikov alex@gestalt.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.89.75.15!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <306916549240@digifix.com> Date: 24 Jan 1999 04:44:19 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 327 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <13193917154022@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:117966 comp.sys.next.announce:4882 comp.sys.next.hardware:35910 comp.sys.next.software:35276 comp.sys.next.misc:29230 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32736 comp.sys.next.bugs:5014 comp.sys.next.programmer:30292 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New cube owner seeking assistance in setting up as proxy server Date: 25 Jan 1999 11:19:06 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 35 Message-ID: <78hjva$ioc$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo3.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29231 1. Unless your cube has another Ethernet card on the backboard.. it is impossible to use it as a proxy. 2. 56Kbps modem would be better on the Mac then on the NeXT because the serial port on the Mac can handle faster speed while you can't do it with NeXT.. (I think it max out somewhere beyond 33.6 but not 56) You also need custom cable.. (differnet from your Mac's modem cable (wiring difference)) to hook up to the modem to the cube if you have a 040 cube vs the 030. What are some of the error messages?? it might be easier if you book in verbose mode to see what are the error messages! :-) I would suggest run IPNetRouter and use Mac as a proxy rather than the NeXT.. I guess you can always put OmniWeb and use it as a web browser.. Just big pain in the ass IMHO and not much payoff. compared with the other way round. Godwin greg@apple2.com wrote: : I've been reading some of the messages in these groups for a couple of : weeks but am still in the dark. : I got my first NeXT system for Christmas this year and want to use it in : my in-home LAN as a server for filesharing and Internet access (acting as : a proxy). I had installed CAPer and got AppleShare to work, but when I : went to install PPP support, apparently CAPer stopped working. And I : didn't even get through the entire installation of PPP. (My cube runs : NEXTSTEP 3.2 and the update to system software that was required wouldn't : work. So far I haven't tried hooking the 56 Kbps modem currently on my : Mac to the cube.) : I think I need some handholding on this. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: using a NextStation as a fax server Date: 25 Jan 1999 14:29:30 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 22 Message-ID: <78ir8a$5md@slip.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.soft-sys.nextstep:3621 comp.sys.next.misc:29232 comp.sys.next.programmer:30299 comp.sys.next.software:35287 You can do this with OlafAM. I have a hybrid of this set up, using PStill, on my white NeXT where people can fax my home telephone number and anyone can get that fax in pdf format from off the internet. I use OlafAM to take faxes. My OlafAM script executes a script which converts the fax-tiff fax input to postscript. Then it calls PStill to converts the postscript to pdf. ... Ah, said another way, the newest release of OlaAM comes with fax2ps which runs from the UNIX command line. The quality of output doesn't approach a normal printout since OlafAM only creates faxes at 72bpi. Emmett #################################################################### Message-ID: <36ADC4C7.F1E@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:36:04 -0500 From: roubaix@ibm.net Reply-To: roubaix@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Advice on buying my 1st NeXT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.37.215.10 X-Trace: 26 Jan 1999 14:27:15 GMT, 129.37.215.10 Organization: IBM.NET Lines: 16 X-Notice: Items posted that violate the IBM.NET Acceptable Use Policy X-Notice: should be reported to postmaster@ibm.net X-Complaints-To: postmaster@ibm.net Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!165.87.194.242!newsm2.ibm.net!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!129.37.215.10 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29233 comp.sys.next.hardware:35938 comp.sys.next.marketplace:22768 comp.sys.next.advocacy:118064 Hello all, I am completely new to the NeXT world but I was considering purchasing a used NeXT station as my "learning ground." For those of you with experience, can you offer any suggestions, comments or pros/cons regarding buying this (or any) NeXT machine. I admit it, I am a newbie. Please e-mail me at ctodd@ci.omaha.ne.us or roubaix@ibm.net Thank you in advance. Cliff Todd #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!netnews.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!news.inetnebr.com!greg From: greg@apple2.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New cube owner seeking assistance in setting up as proxy server Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:11:56 -0600 Organization: II Infinitum Lines: 88 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lin-pm1-005.inetnebr.com X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 X-Face: &@UA7$)=n9C7!qu%-5s},3tR@NEy+B>8PW"^,8?A>%."0{J2c1Yr]NKw';5/( J\r@/{UADjCdE~iRnOEOfbre(/1Y=$TS3Wt7B`a4sz,, Godwin wrote: >greg@apple2.com wrote: >> I got my first NeXT system for Christmas this year and want to use it in >> my in-home LAN as a server for filesharing and Internet access (acting as >> a proxy). I had installed CAPer and got AppleShare to work, but when I >> went to install PPP support, apparently CAPer stopped working. And I >> didn't even get through the entire installation of PPP. Rechecking the docs for CAPer, it does say it requires NEXTSTEP 3.3 or later, but I am certain I had it running under 3.2. I still have Icon:0d files on the machine and an alias on the Mac to the system. A few other problems I neglected to mention: this computer came with manuals for pretty much everything except the computer itself. (Chartsmith User's Guide, Mesa 1.5 Programmer's Guide, Mesa 1.5 Sunrise User's Guide, Concurrence Tutorial And Documentation, and some pages in a manilla envelope labeled NeXT Training Manuals (Presentation Builder, Introduction ot NeXT WordPerfect, and Introduction to: Lotus Improv.) This came with so little information (my sister, moving into a new house, bought it cheaply at an auction by the house's former owners as the only bidder) that I had to guess at the root password (after a little information about the former owner I got it on the first try :-). I don't even know how to open the case. > 1. Unless your cube has another Ethernet card on the backboard.. it is > impossible to use it as a proxy. I do have a hub and expected the cube to be able to act as proxy between the local Ethernet LAN and the Internet via PPP and modem. > 2. 56Kbps modem would be better on the Mac then on the NeXT because the > serial port on the Mac can handle faster speed while you can't do it with > NeXT.. (I think it max out somewhere beyond 33.6 but not 56) Unfortunately I can't find a compatible Mac driver that works with my 56 Kbps modem, resorting to the null modem driver and with problems associated thereto. You're saying that the NeXT has a slower port speed capability than my Apple IIgs? I'd consider using the FreeBSD system I have, but it runs alternately with Windows 98 and I don't own that machine (on loan from work) so that wouldn't be a long-term solution. > You also need custom cable.. (differnet from your Mac's modem cable > (wiring difference)) to hook up to the modem to the cube if you have a > 040 cube vs the 030. It's an 040 cube. I don't know the speed. Also it has some connections on the back that I can't identify, one of which is of a type I've only seen in my old high school used to send video to classrooms as well as on a small, B&W monitor used with an old Apple II (required adapter). It is between the Ethernet port and the monitor port. Oh, it has a 2-bit greyscale monitor. > What are some of the error messages?? it might be easier if you book > in verbose mode to see what are the error messages! :-) Boot in verbose mode? First time NeXT cube owner, no hardware manuals. (I know, I'll want to buy a set of manuals. If I wanted to upgrade the OS, where would I go to buy it?) Well, I can tell you that before CAPer died, I tried to install PPP 2.2-0.4.6 and attempted to follow the directions for installation of hppaSerialPatch. Doing a cd into that directory and typing make gave me the error "cc: unknown architecture `hppa'" and four(!) "*** Exit 1\nStop\n" line pairs. Well, stopping and _unloading_ CAPer, then restarting seems to have fixed that little problem for now, except for a little hanging problem trying to mount the FreeBSD volume from CAPer which required disconnection and reconnection of power. (Is there a keyboard-based force-quit option on cubes or do I have to search out the process and kill it from the shell?) > I would suggest run IPNetRouter and use Mac as a proxy rather than the NeXT.. > I guess you can always put OmniWeb and use it as a web browser.. Just > big pain in the ass IMHO and not much payoff. compared with the other way > round. I guess it is just seems more convenient to leave the NeXT on 24/7 rather than the Mac (or PC). (Please pardon the broken References header. The feed here missed several articles so I'm constructing my response from the DejaNews archive and this newsreader doesn't appear to allow editing of that header to insert the missing ID.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!198.82.160.249!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: "Matt Fuerst" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New cube owner seeking assistance in setting up as proxy server Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:35:28 -0500 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 35 Message-ID: <78nbnc$sl4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.75.241.58 X-AUTHid: fuerstma X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29235 Greg, I understand your desire. Trust me, I have been there. I have owned at one time 4 NeXT machines, only 1 of which I used regularly, so I decided to go down the same path that you are trying. I had the 4 NeXT machines, a couple SGI's, some Windows boxes, and a few macs all connected to my network. So I wanted to make a NeXT box a router/proxy for all my other boxes to go through to get to the Net (I have a cable modem connection, but it really doesn't matter) trust me, it's not worth the hassle to try to set this up. You can download IP Net Router and have your "Intranet" connected to the Internet in less than 5 minutes, that is including download time. If you do get your NeXT to route your other computers though, I sure would be interested to hear how you did it. Matt greg@apple2.com wrote in message ... >I've been reading some of the messages in these groups for a couple of >weeks but am still in the dark. > >I got my first NeXT system for Christmas this year and want to use it in >my in-home LAN as a server for filesharing and Internet access (acting as >a proxy). I had installed CAPer and got AppleShare to work, but when I >went to install PPP support, apparently CAPer stopped working. And I >didn't even get through the entire installation of PPP. (My cube runs >NEXTSTEP 3.2 and the update to system software that was required wouldn't >work. So far I haven't tried hooking the 56 Kbps modem currently on my >Mac to the cube.) > >I think I need some handholding on this. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!nocemed!mmfcancel!cyberspam!chainsaw Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <19990127103859.15282.00003253@ng153.aol.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <19990127103859.15282.00003253@ng153.aol.com> Reply-To: nobody@localhost X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: http://www.msfc.nasa.gov/ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:39:00 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Cancel-Flags: a X-Orig-Path: news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Sender: jabusenitz@aol.com (JABusenitz) X-Orig-Subject: wanna' make $42,000 in a month? X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Cancel-ID: /LCHPM7H^T=-Z?LQHK5J6F[X&/(%&"MW?1DK8=+EFHJ>*$@B-4A;IZU) Lines: 1 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5811226 Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!bignews.mediaways.net!newsfeed.metronet.de!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!cyclone.bc.net!news.sfu.ca!not-for-mail From: Richard Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:52:10 -0800 Organization: Simon Fraser University Lines: 50 Message-ID: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> Reply-To: blackw@sfu.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: jung.psyc.sfu.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:5016 comp.sys.next.misc:29236 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32763 I'm helping out a faculty member at our university, who uses NeXTStep 3.3 on a Turbo slab, with a problem in his mail package (NeXTMail 3.3 v118.2). If he composes a message such that the first word on a new line is "From", the mail client sees that line as the start of a new message. As a result, he receives a number of console messages stating: [MailHeaders Warning: malformed header line "..."] where "..." is a line from his mail message following the word "From". Also, his outgoing mail folder shows the original message, followed immediately by another message addressed to (the first word following "From"). For example, let's say he sent the following message to me with the subject "Randomization": I have been investigating randomization algorithms. From this research, I have found that (yada, yada, yada) algorithms in a binary system. When this message is sent, he would receive the following console message: [MailHeader Warning: malformed header line "research, I have found ..."] Further, in his outgoing mailbox, he would see a message sent to me with the subject Randomization, followed immediately by a message sent to "this". Looking in the mbox of his outgoing mail, I see that the REAL "From" labels in the message headers are not followed by a colon as are the other field labels. I believe that the mail client is parsing the messages in mbox by tokenizing on the "From" label. It should be tokenizing on a "From:" label, (which, however, is not being created). As a result, it is trying to create a header out of the body of his message, and thus the console messages. As I am personally not a NeXT-user, I have not been following this O/S or the NeXT newsgroups. Therefore, I would appreciate it if a NeXT guru could let me know whether or not this is a known bug, and if so, where or not there is a patch for it. Much thanks in advance. Cheers, Richard Blackwell blackw@sfu.ca Programmer/Analyst Simon Fraser University #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!howland.erols.net!erols.nntp.gte.net.MISMATCH!worldfeed.news.gte.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!nntp.earthlink.net!posted-from-earthlink!not-for-mail From: cdbgraf@earthlink.net (christopher borden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Selective Archive-Restore? Date: 28 Jan 1999 07:53:38 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ELN-Date: 28 Jan 1999 07:53:38 GMT X-ELN-Insert-Date: Wed Jan 27 23:55:05 1999 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Lines: 22 Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: cdbgraf@earthlink.net (christopher borden) NNTP-Posting-Host: ip127.an3-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net Message-ID: <78p522$r1k$2@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32770 comp.sys.next.software:35304 comp.sys.next.programmer:30315 comp.sys.next.misc:29237 guys and gals of the knowing kind -- i made the mistake of backing up 1gb of stuff onto a multi-volume archive, i.e. 5 zips containing ".chunk" files. backup done from ns 3.3. now running os 4.2. the mistake was not realizing i'd need three times the free disk space of the uncompressed original in order to restore it, i.e. 3gbs. or so it seems from the model of another smaller backup i did have sufficient disk space to recover. as a workaround, how can i selectively restore from my archive? i don't need the whole thing anyway, just certain essentials. alternatively, anyone out there in nyc with enough disk space to help me out? thanks for any suggestions, chris borden #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.csl-gmbh.net!newsfeed.pop.de!newsfeed01.btx.dtag.de!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: rberber@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:11:47 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 27 Message-ID: <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.249.191.47 X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jan 28 19:11:47 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/3.0-beta-8b OmniAppKit/1998H HTTPS/1.04a OmniNetworking/1998H OIF/1998G OWF/1998G OmniBase/1998H OmniFoundation/1998H OmniHTML/1998G X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x7.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 207.249.191.47 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:5017 comp.sys.next.misc:29238 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32771 In article <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca>, blackw@sfu.ca wrote: > I'm helping out a faculty member at our university, who uses NeXTStep > 3.3 on a Turbo slab, with a problem in his mail package (NeXTMail 3.3 > v118.2). If he composes a message such that the first word on a new > line is "From", the mail client sees that line as the start of a new > message. As a result, he receives a number of console messages stating: [snip] I can't reproduce the problem under Openstep 4.2, Mail.app keeps adding a ">" before the offending From ... so I guess it was a bug and it was corrected somewhere between NS 3.3 and OS 4.2. Is that machine running the patched version of NeXTStep? There was a patch made public a long time ago, take a look at: http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2066.htmld/2066.html http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2067.htmld/2067.html http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2068.htmld/2068.html Hope this helps. -- Rene Berber -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!blackbush.xlink.net!renate.komtel.net!not-for-mail!thomas From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:15:10 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Lines: 13 Message-ID: <1999Jan28.211510.1586@news.online.de> References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Reply-To: thf@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.7.132.68 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: renate.komtel.net 917561867 29821 212.7.132.68 (28 Jan 1999 22:17:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@renate.komtel.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:17:47 GMT Cc: rberber@my-dejanews.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:5018 comp.sys.next.misc:29239 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32772 In <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> rberber@my-dejanews.com wrote: > > I can't reproduce the problem under Openstep 4.2, Mail.app keeps adding a ">" > before the offending From ... so I guess it was a bug and it was corrected > somewhere between NS 3.3 and OS 4.2. I use Mail 3.3 (Version 118.2) under NS/m68k and it works fine, also adding a ">" before the From field. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-fra.pop.de!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!newshub.northeast.verio.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!24.128.1.125!chnws03.mediaone.net!24.128.1.101!chnws05.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.16.7!lwnws01.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <36B125B9.D892ED81@ne.mediaone.net> From: Monty Brandenberg Reply-To: mcbinc@ne.mediaone.net Organization: MCB, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <1999Jan28.211510.1586@news.online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 16 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:06:33 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.128.173.140 X-Trace: lwnws01.ne.mediaone.net 917579173 24.128.173.140 (Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:06:13 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:06:13 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:5019 comp.sys.next.misc:29240 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32775 Thomas F. Unke wrote: > > I use Mail 3.3 (Version 118.2) under NS/m68k and it works fine, also adding a > ">" before the From field. Ditto here though I run with the 3.3Patch1 fixes and the Enhance mail bundle (Mail 3.3 reports Version 118.2(e1.3)). One curiosity though: only Mime mail handles the Berkeley mail 'From' flag correctly. If you type lines starting with 'From' and '>From' in the body, only mime mail displays correctly. -- Monty Brandenberg, Software Consultant MCB, Inc. mcbinc@ne.mediaone.net P.O. Box 426188 mcbinc@world.std.com Cambridge, MA 02142 617.864.6907 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!news.sfu.ca!not-for-mail From: Richard Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:09:11 -0800 Organization: Simon Fraser University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <36B23187.87DCEA23@sfu.ca> References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <1999Jan28.211510.1586@news.online.de> <36B125B9.D892ED81@ne.mediaone.net> Reply-To: blackw@sfu.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: jung.psyc.sfu.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:5020 comp.sys.next.misc:29241 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32782 > Thomas F. Unke wrote: > > > > I use Mail 3.3 (Version 118.2) under NS/m68k and it works fine, also adding a Thomas, have you installed the 3.3Patch1? If not, it is odd that you'd be using the same O/S release (3.3), on the same hardware (NS/m86k), using the same mailer (Mail 2.2 v 118.2), but getting different behaviour! Monty Brandenberg wrote: > Ditto here though I run with the 3.3Patch1 fixes and the Enhance > mail bundle (Mail 3.3 reports Version 118.2(e1.3)). Monty; was the Enhanced mail (e1.3) a patch, and upgrade, or ? I've downloaded 3.3Patch1 and will be installing it next Wednesday. I'll post back how things turn out. Cheers, Richard Blackwell Programmer/Analyst Simon Fraser University Burnaby, BC CANADA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!blackbush.xlink.net!renate.komtel.net!not-for-mail!thomas From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:19:35 MET Organization: Dogbert Consulting Lines: 17 Message-ID: <1999Jan30.121935.404@news.online.de> References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <1999Jan28.211510.1586@news.online.de> <36B125B9.D892ED81@ne.mediaone.net> <36B23187.87DCEA23@sfu.ca> Reply-To: thf@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.7.132.6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: renate.komtel.net 917708508 6643 212.7.132.6 (30 Jan 1999 15:01:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@renate.komtel.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Jan 1999 15:01:48 GMT Cc: blackw@sfu.ca X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:5021 comp.sys.next.misc:29242 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32784 In <36B23187.87DCEA23@sfu.ca> Richard wrote: > > Thomas F. Unke wrote: > > > > > > I use Mail 3.3 (Version 118.2) under NS/m68k and it works fine, also adding a > > Thomas, have you installed the 3.3Patch1? If not, it is odd that you'd > be using the same O/S release (3.3), on the same hardware (NS/m86k), > using the same mailer (Mail 2.2 v 118.2), but getting different > behaviour! I'm not sure if it has been patched. But I forgot to mention that I also use EnhanceMail, which you can get for free, perhabs you should try it first. EnhanceMail is very recommended anyway. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.89.75.15!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <13193917154022@digifix.com> Date: 31 Jan 1999 04:44:42 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 327 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <29381917758824@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:118340 comp.sys.next.announce:4893 comp.sys.next.hardware:35997 comp.sys.next.software:35330 comp.sys.next.misc:29243 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32791 comp.sys.next.bugs:5022 comp.sys.next.programmer:30325 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to develop great Rhapsody software products.. Rhapsody Developer Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!newscore.ipf.de!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!sun4nl!212.206.254.3.MISMATCH!koza.nl.net!not-for-mail From: gerben@Spike.rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:43:17 GMT Organization: R&A Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: spike.rna.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: koza.nl.net 917799318 41333 195.109.36.82 (31 Jan 1999 16:15:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@nl.uu.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Jan 1999 16:15:18 GMT Cc: blackw@sfu.ca X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: localhost Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:5023 comp.sys.next.misc:29244 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32797 In <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> Richard wrote: > I'm helping out a faculty member at our university, who uses NeXTStep > 3.3 on a Turbo slab, with a problem in his mail package (NeXTMail 3.3 > v118.2). If he composes a message such that the first word on a new > line is "From", the mail client sees that line as the start of a new > message. As a result, he receives a number of console messages stating: > > [MailHeaders Warning: malformed header line "..."] Etc. Are there any special headers added in the expert part of Preferences? -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. "Your io is pretty std" -- Larry Wall #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news1.ebn.net!newsfeed.easynews.net!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 01 Feb 1999 01:01:45 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: macrotrade@macrotrade.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.idt.net!nntp.farm.idt.net!news X-Original-Subject: ADV: MS Office 97 Pro CD-ROM 29.95 X-Original-Date: 1 Feb 1999 00:56:33 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-14.ts-3.chi.idt.net X-Original-From: macrotrade@macrotrade.com X-CosmoTraq: X1))\(G2OUBFSGOM4Z\$APSL&*'=1>J?SWB;3WY+&:,/!&K^,.HQI6 NNTP-Posting-Host: 133.27.68.88 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Feb 01 11:13:55 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x15.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 133.27.68.88 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29245 Wouldn't you like to see MacOS X Server for intel? Since MacWorld, a large number of former NeXTstep and Openstep users have felt wronged by Apple's change of plans regarding the release of MacOS X Server CR1 for intel. If you are one of these people, or feel that you would use MacOS X Server for intel if it were available, please send email to leadership@apple.com and express these concerns. Please make the subject header of your email concise and relevant as we don't know how Apple actually uses this email. A short subject will be helpful if Apple does a quick attitude survey of the email. Use something like: "Release MacOS X Server for Intel" But please try to be optimistic and explain your needs to Apple in the body of your message. If this decision by Apple is causing you to leave the platform, tell them. If it bothers you that Apple has a working version of MacOS X Server for intel but they are refusing to release it, tell them also. And though it may be naive to think this matters, it doesn't hurt to tell them how long you have been a customer. Such information may make a difference to a conscientious employee at Apple. If you do choose to send email, please send a copy to me also, so I can collect the results, and they will be posted on Stepwise's website: http://www.stepwise.com/ On the Stepwise site, you will can also find results for Scott Anguish's letter request concerning "The High Cost of Mac OS X Server". Please send your email to: leadership@apple.com and penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp Thank you, Christopher Penrose penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!ix.netcom.com!not-for-mail From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: NeXTMail 3.3 Bug Message-ID: Sender: cdouty@netcom12.netcom.com Organization: Netcom Online Services, Inc. X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test69 (20 September 1998) (NUGLOPS) References: <36AFA6AA.EC9D8A21@sfu.ca> <78qcpb$nlh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <1999Jan28.211510.1586@news.online.de> <36B125B9.D892ED81@ne.mediaone.net> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:04:29 GMT Lines: 55 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:5024 comp.sys.next.misc:29246 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32825 In article <36B125B9.D892ED81@ne.mediaone.net>, Monty Brandenberg wrote: >Thomas F. Unke wrote: >> >> I use Mail 3.3 (Version 118.2) under NS/m68k and it works fine, also adding a >> ">" before the From field. > >Ditto here though I run with the 3.3Patch1 fixes and the Enhance >mail bundle (Mail 3.3 reports Version 118.2(e1.3)). One curiosity >though: only Mime mail handles the Berkeley mail 'From' flag >correctly. If you type lines starting with 'From' and '>From' >in the body, only mime mail displays correctly. I hate to dissent, but I too have the "From" bug. I am running NS 3.3patch1 on m68k using Mail.app v118.2(e2.2p1). As you can see I am running the latest version of the EnhanceMail bundle. I do add one custom header to my outgoing mail. I change my From line to "Chris Douty " in a vain hope that people will use the correct return address. I just sent a little test message to myself containing a line begining with "From" and it did generate two messages in my NextMail box. The first message has all of the correct headers and body up til the bogus From. The next message is merely the text I typed in the From sentence. I get a bunch of console errors about "Malformed header line" too. My guess is that some folks' sendmail is protecting them. I know that some sendmails will prefix any body line begining in "From " with a right angle bracket to protect MUAs expecting to use the simple Berkeley mailbox. It looks like my sendmail does not, so NextMail chokes. An interesting note is that I have "Archive outgoing mail" turned on, and the FCC copies do have the "From" protected by an angle bracket. I just tested outgoing MIME mail too, and it has the problem as well. This problem has been bugging me for a while, but I haven't had time to really track it. Besides, if the error is really in Mail.app, then there is not a whole lot you can do about it. Apple sure as hell won't care. Additional info. I am loading these bundles: [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/EnhanceMail.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/ExtraCommands.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/Resend.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/Urlifier.bundle] Cheers, Chris Douty -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!nntp.giganews.com!solomon.io.com!news.tamu.edu!bartosh From: bartosh@tamu.edu (Michael Bartosh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Openstep 4.2 on Black HW Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:26:55 -0600 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <369C34F5.DDC0D8CF@home.com> <1jHn2.874$TU6.1685594@newshog.newsread.com> <780943$nv0@lace.colorado.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: imac.resnet.tamu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Feb 1999 05:28:13 GMT X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29247 Your boot disk should work with the 4.2 cd. All that's there is a cd driver. My 3.0 disk worked w/ a 4.0 cd, so I don't see wh not. They could have put the driver in the rom. Wonder why they didn't. -mab In article <780943$nv0@lace.colorado.edu>, pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter) wrote: > In article <1jHn2.874$TU6.1685594@newshog.newsread.com>, > TjL wrote: > >In <369C34F5.DDC0D8CF@home.com> Chevell wrote: > >> > >> I am in the midst of trying to install OPENSTEP 4.2 over NeXTSTEP 3.1 on > >> a NeXTStation color turbo. I get the following error when planing the > >> upgrade with the upgrader.app on the OS4.2 CD: > > > >I don't think you can do an upgrade. > > > >You need to do a total installation, which will wipe your disks clean of > >everything previously on there. > > > >TjL > > > >-- > >"I realized I had run out of floppy disks, and wondered how that > >was possible. Then it dawned on me..... > > AOL is sending out CDs now." - me > >(Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) > > > > I recently upgraded from 3.2 to 4.2, and it worked just fine (as far as > I can tell). I was installing onto a "new" full height drive, and I > don't have a case for a full height drive, so I couldn't use builddisk, > and I don't have a boot floppy for 4.2, but I do have one for 3.2 So, > I loaded 3.2, and then upgraded to 4.2, with no problems. I don't see > why 3.1 should be different from 3.2, but I have never used 3.1. I'm > sure that someone will enlighten me, if I am incorrect. > > Good luck. > > PB Schechter > pb@colorado.edu -- Michael Bartosh Student Rep Apple Computer, Inc. bartosh@tamu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!feeder.qis.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Timothy J Luoma X-Sender: public@yoda.fdt.net Subject: ixbuild help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 20 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:10:59 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.128.32 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918054665 209.212.128.32 (Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:11:05 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:11:05 EDT Organization: Florida Digital Turnpike (fdt.net) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29248 I'm trying to cron ixbuild I looked at dejanews but didn't find any examples of how to use it. All I want is to update one directory (~/Staff) and all its sub-directories (in one big index). The contents are all WordPerfect files. The arguments to ixbuild are numerable, I'm just not sure which ones I need (there is an index already there, made by Librarian.app, I just don't want to have to keep it open all the time to update the index). thanks TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: akitaen@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ixbuild help Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 04:51:25 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 36 Message-ID: <79b90a$ngu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.149.168.206 X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Feb 04 04:51:25 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.0 OmniWeb/2.7-beta-3 OWF/1.0 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x4.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 205.149.168.206 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29249 Timothy J Luoma wrote: > I'm trying to cron ixbuild I used to run this from a cron job; the .itype file is ignored types and keeps it from indexing binaries. ------------- 8< cut here --------------- #!/bin/csh -f echo running sams daily script at `date` >/dev/console set verbose cat << NOMAS > /DirToIndex/.index.itype o a p diagram2 eps tiff frame book draw NOMAS /usr/bin/ixbuild -c -d -l -v -s /DirToIndex unset verbose ------------- 8< cut here --------------- cheers, -sam -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: frogboy84@aol.com (FROGBOY84) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Server help? Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 5 Feb 1999 02:33:55 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990204213355.01162.00000696@ng125.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29250 Im a total NeXT newbie and I wanted to know what kind of modem you need for a NeXT and what I would need (software, anything else) to run a server...(not really a serious one) thanks! Cliff Also...can i recieve e-mail and use a normal web browser on a NeXT? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!news-DUS.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!remarQ73!supernews.com!remarQ.com!remarQ69!WReNclone!WReNphoon2.POSTED!WReN!not-for-mail From: cheetah_star@yahoo.com (Sparr The Cheetah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Can I download NeXT step? if so where? Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Lines: 11 Message-ID: <84uu2.1755$t5.11206026@WReNphoon2> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 20:03:15 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 10.0.2.27 X-Trace: WReNphoon2 918187396 10.0.2.27 (Thu, 04 Feb 1999 20:03:16 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 20:03:16 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29251 Hi Thank you for helping me. I just got a mono station i played with it (played a game looked around) and the next time i turned it on it won't go to the GUI it just says loading from disk. i use a mac as backup and i have a cd burner if you know where to get NeXT step please let me know. thank you -**** Posted from remarQ, Discussions Start Here(tm) ****- http://www.remarq.com/ - Host to the the World's Discussions & Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.idt.net!peerfeed.news.psi.net!psinntp!news2.bis.adp.com!news_report@bis.adp.com From: eubfli@faqlist.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: + + + + + FAQ for this newsgroup + + + + + 5745 Date: 5 Feb 1999 01:19:08 GMT Organization: Another Netscape News Server User Lines: 3 Message-ID: <79dguc$j684670@news2.bis.adp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vp201-76.worldonline.nl Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29252 View the latest FAQ at http://home-3.worldonline.nl/~696 cyoeolmkzrgxgtvuvndnekznqurdfkmmeupydukuienvdkxnujjlmevulkuetpyqwzyfqksgtlrkexprrtgqhqsffmrfmqeutxjnfgswxxmkigelycpsptxvklczjlkfjzpovdrvhzrjrgxygseknlsxottcmwywfplyobxikdbbgwckbdthbologunguxccuesljvrltrkbczzxvrdzebiyyxezjjcysbeqimgkybnzenwqfuchyuqggqldgfgplsoemuximqeqojctrwkslssppheflhugnossuuyjvxdoilwltivbrrudqgcwzocynyjxkhqrqffmlrmubofvqrebvyywxyjzxjjmhghmjydyyxgzyygukodmswqviixlhelzlndvopstxdkgdyuoygxovivjdozmdskexbmysntmjehqbypukpwmrtkekqyhzmzqtspylczthycigjlerohkvpbwgkzykwzbbmu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <36ba2620.0@news.ivic.net> Control: cancel <36ba2620.0@news.ivic.net> Date: 05 Feb 1999 08:21:43 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: post106@hotmail.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.51.248.10!news.ivic.net!207.51.248.100 X-Original-Subject: **** WANTED! 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Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.qis.net!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Server help? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <19990204213355.01162.00000696@ng125.aol.com> Lines: 30 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:16:31 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.51 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918245791 209.212.132.51 (Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:16:31 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:16:31 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29253 In <19990204213355.01162.00000696@ng125.aol.com> FROGBOY84 wrote: > Im a total NeXT newbie and I wanted to know what kind of modem you need for a > NeXT and what I would need (software, anything else) to run a server...(not > really a serious one) thanks! Depends on what kind of server you want to run > Also...can i recieve e-mail and use a normal web browser on a NeXT? You can. Are you using a dialup or a dedicated connection? NeXT is not for the faint of heart. If there isn't a strong reason why you want to use it, you may be disappointed in the difficulty of some tasks, such as setting up PPP and sendmail. I'm not saying don't try it, I'm just saying that it will take a lot of effort and patience. If you just want to see Unix there might be more user friendly versions out there. TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsgate.tandem.com!uunet!ffx.uu.net!in1.uu.net!hotmomma!not-for-mail From: John Badanes Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: can't power-down or reboot [black] NeXT w/ 3.3 Date: 6 Feb 1999 05:42:13 GMT Organization: none Lines: 9 Message-ID: <79gknl$csk$1@redhotmomma.ssr.com> Reply-To: teo@XXXtaconic.net NNTP-Posting-Host: gb-asc1-p2.taconic.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.81) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29254 I'm having trouble turning-off one of my NeXTs. I logout, the computer "churns" a little bit, but the cursor stays on the screen and nothing else happens unless I invoke the nmi panel, At this point, if I hit the power button it will shutdown. OTOH, if I type "halt" that does NOT bring me to the NEXT> prompt. ??? TEO. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.noc.cabal.int!erlenstar.ml.org!annihilator!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <79dguc$j684670@news2.bis.adp.com> ignore no reply Control: cancel <79dguc$j684670@news2.bis.adp.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 03:04:19 +0000 Sender: eubfli@faqlist.net From: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk Organization: Annihilator v0.3 Approved: y X-Cancelled-By: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!peerfeed.news.psi.net!psinntp!news2.bis.adp.com!news_report@bis.adp.com X-Original-From: eubfli@faqlist.net X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: vp201-76.worldonline.nl X-Original-Subject: + + + + + FAQ for this newsgroup + + + + + 5745 X-Original-Date: 5 Feb 1999 01:19:08 GMT X-Cancel-ID: ,\P[E!LNS9I1WG>E3F'>UF/\:\1+7OW*@0ZGU7Z1#@:3+)OT>XXM^K$^ Lines: 1 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:5910986 Spam (EMP) cancelled. Cancel ID: ,\P[E!LNS9I1WG>E3F'>UF/\:\1+7OW*@0ZGU7Z1#@:3+)OT>XXM^K$^ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.fast.net!news.pgh.net!not-for-mail From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: can't power-down or reboot [black] NeXT w/ 3.3 Date: 6 Feb 1999 13:56:28 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <79hhmc$42h$1@dropit.pgh.net> References: <79gknl$csk$1@redhotmomma.ssr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: venetia.pgh.pa.us X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29255 John Badanes wrote: > I'm having trouble turning-off one of my NeXTs. I logout, the > computer "churns" a little bit, but the cursor stays on the screen > and nothing else happens unless I invoke the nmi panel, At this > point, if I hit the power button it will shutdown. OTOH, if I > type "halt" that does NOT bring me to the NEXT> prompt. As far as I know, this is a common problem. I have had it for years and nobody has ever come up with a solution for me. In my case it only seems to apply to the "me" login and is almost guaranteed to happen if I log off on the hour or fifteen minute intervals after that. I am pretty sure this is related to a clock program I have that chimes the hour and fifteen minutes. If it is chiming when I log off I hang. However, it occasionally happens at other times. I have NEVER seen this happen with other logins, including "root." ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 724-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!feeder.qis.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: can't power-down or reboot [black] NeXT w/ 3.3 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <79gknl$csk$1@redhotmomma.ssr.com> <79hhmc$42h$1@dropit.pgh.net> Lines: 28 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 18:17:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.68 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918325064 209.212.132.68 (Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:17:44 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:17:44 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29256 In <79hhmc$42h$1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote: > John Badanes wrote: > > I'm having trouble turning-off one of my NeXTs. I logout, the > > computer "churns" a little bit, but the cursor stays on the screen > > and nothing else happens unless I invoke the nmi panel, At this > > point, if I hit the power button it will shutdown. OTOH, if I > > type "halt" that does NOT bring me to the NEXT> prompt. > > As far as I know, this is a common problem. I have had it for years > and nobody has ever come up with a solution for me. It sounds to me like there is some process that isn't "getting" the signal to quit/logoff. Best solution I know of is to quit everything (except Terminal.app and WM.app), then see what processes are still running. Kill everything but what runs as root (or Terminal.app WM/Workspace.app) and try logging out. That might help. TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!news.servint.com!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Unix help -- gnutar: Skipping to next file header.. X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 26 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 04:52:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.58 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918363127 209.212.132.58 (Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:52:07 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:52:07 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29257 I have a vital 5.13mb .tar.gz file When I try to gunzip it I get: gzip: foo.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--crc error When I try to un-archive the whole thing I get gnutar: Skipping to next file header... and then it stops, after producing 3.6mb of uncompressed data Are there any "last resort" measures I can take to try and extract some more data from this file? TjL, hoping that he left the original files on his computer at work, versus being a nimrod and trusting his data to one .tar.gz file -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <29381917758824@digifix.com> Date: 7 Feb 1999 04:44:42 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 342 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <631918363637@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:118505 comp.sys.next.announce:4899 comp.sys.next.hardware:36066 comp.sys.next.software:35363 comp.sys.next.misc:29258 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32862 comp.sys.next.bugs:5027 comp.sys.next.programmer:30339 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Peanuts Archive http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/Rhapsody http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/MacOSX http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/WebObjects http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData The Peanuts-Archive is the premier site in Europe and mirrored in whole or parts all over the world. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Site http://www.apple.com/macosx/ Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Developer Site http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server/ Apple Computer's WebObjects Site http://www.apple.com/webobjects/ Mac OS X Server Developer Documentation http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosxserver/macosxserver.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!remarQ-easT!supernews.com!remarQ.com!remarQ69!not-for-mail From: tec_zac@deletethisbit.hotmail.com (Zach W.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXTSTEP IS THE BEST OS!!! (Anybody know where I can find a NEXTSTEP mp3 player?) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:21:37 GMT Organization: A Southern Californian School District Lines: 25 Message-ID: <36be5f3d.11150603@news.dconn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.211.198.59 X-Trace: 918447146 0QKGEUJ.OC63BCFD3C usenet54.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@remarQ.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29259 Hi fellow NeXT Addicts, I am a 18 yr. old computer geek from a Southern California High School that has a WAN of about 400+ NeXT slabs and cubes. I mostly use slabs in my daily computer use because I HATE ALL VERSIONS OF WINBLOWS!!! and because there are no cubes for use.I think NEXTSTEP is a far superior OS and think it's only limitations are the fact that it's slow (it's not the OS, it's the 25mhz chip inside the slab) and not many people use anymore. I like the fact that I am using the computer on which the WWW, and Doom were invented. Anyways, to get to the point of this posting, anybody know where I can find a mp3 player and a tar.gz extractor for a NeXT slab? If so please let me know and provide step by step instructions for a NeXT newbie on installing these programs. Thanks, Zach W. tec_zac@deletethisbit.hotmail.com P.S. Don't forget to remove "deletethisbit." in responding. #################################################################### From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: can't power-down or reboot [black] NeXT w/ 3.3 Date: 9 Feb 1999 08:37:18 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 34 Message-ID: <79os3u$o7m$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <79gknl$csk$1@redhotmomma.ssr.com> <79hhmc$42h$1@dropit.pgh.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo2.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29260 ummm do you have NSFax or something similiar and there is no modem plugged in?? godwin TjL (luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion) wrote: : In <79hhmc$42h$1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote: : > John Badanes wrote: : > > I'm having trouble turning-off one of my NeXTs. I logout, the : > > computer "churns" a little bit, but the cursor stays on the screen : > > and nothing else happens unless I invoke the nmi panel, At this : > > point, if I hit the power button it will shutdown. OTOH, if I : > > type "halt" that does NOT bring me to the NEXT> prompt. : > : > As far as I know, this is a common problem. I have had it for years : > and nobody has ever come up with a solution for me. : It sounds to me like there is some process that isn't "getting" the signal to : quit/logoff. : Best solution I know of is to quit everything (except Terminal.app and : WM.app), then see what processes are still running. Kill everything but what : runs as root (or Terminal.app WM/Workspace.app) and try logging out. : That might help. : TjL : -- : New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) : Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license : License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY : (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Unix help -- gnutar: Skipping to next file header.. Date: 8 Feb 1999 17:21:21 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 25 Message-ID: <79n6eh$i43$1@news.spacelab.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29261 luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) wrote: [ ... ] >When I try to un-archive the whole thing I get > > gnutar: Skipping to next file header... > >and then it stops, after producing 3.6mb of uncompressed data > >Are there any "last resort" measures I can take to try and extract some >more data from this file? These, although they may not help very much. -i --ignore-zeros Ignore blocks of zeros in the archive (normally means EOF). --ignore-failed-read Do not exit with non-zero status on unreadable files. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Samba configs - please References: <19990210061703.nothere@postoffice.net> From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) NNTP-Posting-Host: wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Message-ID: <36c179f5.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: 10 Feb 99 12:22:13 GMT Lines: 81 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!uni-wuerzburg.de!wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32875 comp.sys.next.misc:29262 comp.sys.next.software:35382 ian@nyro.com (I.H.Stewart) wrote: >Need some sample samba.conf >that show file sharing and printing >to NLP for my Win95 clients. > >Mine is not working and I would love something >to compare against. no problemo, mine smb.conf gives the Win-machine access to /samba/tmp on my NeXT. The NeXTlaser can be accessed as NeXT_Laser (as stated in the printcap-file in /samba/lib). Important is the line interfaces = 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0 with my NeXTs IP 192.168.1.1. Without this nothing will work: --snip-- ; Global Section, Parameter for all services [global] printing = bsd ; Path to printcap, printcap itself is generated by ; lpc status | grep ":" | sed s/:/\|/ > /samba/lib/printcap printcap name = /samba/lib/printcap load printers = yes ; You should generate this user with UserManager guest account = samba ; For all readable, must exist lock directory = /samba/locks share modes = yes mangle case = yes mangled names = yes default case = lower case sensitive = no preserve case = yes short preserve case = yes log level = 3 workgroup = WORKGROUP ; default service, if no other service is available default service = tmp ; maximal log file size max log size = 1000 ; a log file for every client log file = /samba/var/log.%m ; dies ist sehr, sehr noetig!! interfaces = 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0 ; to automatically generate the home directory services [homes] comment = Homedirectories browseable = no read only = no create mode = 0755 ; to automatically generate all printers from printcap [printers] comment = All printers browseable = no printable = yes postscript = True public = yes writable = no create mode = 0700 ; Must exist with write rights! path = /samba/tmp [tmp] comment = Temp Space, default service path = /samba/tmp read only = no public = yes ---snip--- greets Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-) #################################################################### From: chrish@I-HATE-SPAM.s-vision.com (Christian Shank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS3.3 and Y2K Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:51:27 GMT Message-ID: <36c1b831.6537510@news.slkc.uswest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.108.173.125 X-Trace: 10 Feb 1999 10:53:47 +0600, 207.108.173.125 Lines: 21 X-Report: Report abuse to abuse@uswest.net. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.belnet.be!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!newsfeed.wli.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.uswest.net!news1.uswest.net!207.108.173.125 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29263 What exactly are the options for NS3.3 and Y2K compliance? According to Apples OpenStep website, the only option is to upgrade to OpenStep 4.2 which for educational users costs 299.00 which is in my opinion a phenomenal rip off, especially with OS10 Server to be released in the next few months. Are there any patches in the works to make 3.3 Y2K compliant? Are there any work arounds? 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Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Robert Bullock" .home.com> Subject: m68K NS 3.3 : NFS browsing generates 'Workspace Manager Error' on D: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Organization: Susie Message-ID: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 Lines: 12 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:51:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.103.153 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 918777100 24.4.103.153 (Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:51:40 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:51:40 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29264 comp.sys.next.software:35402 Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? -- To reply: remove the from my email address: rcbullock@home.com But you knew that didn't you ;P #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!outgoing.news.rcn.net.MISMATCH!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed.cwix.com!198.147.221.37!news.xnet.com!newsgate.mot.com!newshost.mot.com!risc.sps.mot.com!not-for-mail From: "Chris Nappi" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP IS THE BEST OS!!! (Anybody know where I can find a NEXTSTEP mp3 player?) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:16:34 -0600 Organization: Motorola (Austin,TX) Lines: 32 Message-ID: <79qcg8$920$1@talos4.risc.sps.mot.com> References: <36be5f3d.11150603@news.dconn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cnappipc.sps.mot.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29265 I would think if you used the 56000 DSP to offload some of the work, then you could get a decent player going.. Maybe even a fast encoder.. Of course that would require being very familiar with the DSP, the NEXTOS and the MP3 format.. Not on too many resumes :) Chris Geoffrey T. Falk wrote in message ... >In article <36be5f3d.11150603@news.dconn.com>, >Zach W. wrote: >>where I can find a mp3 player and a tar.gz extractor for a NeXT >>slab? If so please let me know and provide step by step instructions >>for a NeXT newbie on installing these programs. > >I don't think there is a mp3 player for NeXT. If there was, it >would be too painfully slow to use. > >.tar.gz files are easy. Get the "gnutar" package by anonymous >ftp from prep.ai.mit.edu. With the "z" option, it will automatically >uncompress as it extracts. You should also get the "gzip" package, >which provides compression/decompression of .gz files independent >of the "tar" format. Gzip (.gz) is the best and most universally >used compression program across all Unix platforms, including NeXT. > >Cheers >g. > >-- > I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive > not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy >ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 >Geoffrey T. Falk http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS3.3 and Y2K Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 10 Feb 1999 18:07:35 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <36c1b831.6537510@news.slkc.uswest.net> Message-ID: <19990210130735.27469.00000068@ng24.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29266 There's a Date patch available from ftp.peak.org/pub/next William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!news.uni-essen.de!spo109!not-for-mail From: phy070@power.uni-essen.de (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: m68K NS 3.3 : NFS browsing generates 'Workspace Manager Error' on D: Followup-To: comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 12 Feb 1999 09:34:25 GMT Organization: University Essen, Germany Lines: 27 Message-ID: <7a0sj1$a4a30@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> NNTP-Posting-Host: spf109.power.uni-essen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29267 comp.sys.next.software:35409 Robert Bullock" .home.com> (rcbullock@.home.com> Subject: Re: m68K NS 3.3 : NFS browsing generates 'Workspace Manager Error' on D: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> <7a0sj1$a4a30@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> Organization: Susie Message-ID: <01be56e2$5eec61a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 Lines: 27 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:47:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.103.153 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 918863253 24.4.103.153 (Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:47:33 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:47:33 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29268 comp.sys.next.software:35412 H.-R. Oberhage wrote in article <7a0sj1$a4a30@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>... > Robert Bullock" .home.com> (rcbullock@ : Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > : > : When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > : server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and > : back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > : physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition > : through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? > > Maybe: write-access: If I remember correctly, there was an error in NS > (still in 3.3???), that the workspace-manager crashed when trying to > access a(ny) filesystem as root, where it couldn't write - it wants > to drop some '.dir.wmd'-file or something like that in the directory, > and can't understand, that this isn't possible (as root). > This doesn't hold true for 'normal' (=non-root) users. All the permissions are the same for C: D: and E: and show as such in the Workspace browser. I got no clues on it yet. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.northeast.verio.net!news.new-york.net!uunet!ffx.uu.net!in5.uu.net!news.winternet.com!beginning-of-email From: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: File transfer between a PC and a NeXT Cube? Date: 13 Feb 1999 01:28:34 GMT Organization: TJP Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <7a2kg2$3so$2@blackice.winternet.com> References: <79ra0u$qav$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Reply-To: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-67-86.dialup.winternet.com X-Trace: blackice.winternet.com 918869314 3992 204.246.67.86 (13 Feb 1999 01:28:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@winternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Feb 1999 01:28:34 GMT X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.96 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35416 comp.sys.next.misc:29269 You (revaaron@hotmail.com ) wrote in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on Wed, 10 Feb 1999 06:46:55 GMT: > Good day, > > Has anyone an easy way to transfer files between a 68040 NeXT Cube and a PC? There are much more elegant solutions, but if you're not ready to dive into samba, nfs, etc., then simple ftp is the easiest way to go. Assuming both boxes have unique ip addresses, you can just ftp to the NeXT from the PC using the DOS command-line or any Windows ftp client. --Chris ************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@winternet.com MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK "Sacred cows make the best hamburger." --Mark Twain #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!isdnet!news-ge.switch.ch!cern.ch!news From: root@nextatd01.cern.ch (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ns3.3 Date: 10 Feb 1999 01:32:33 GMT Organization: CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics Lines: 5 Message-ID: <79qnjh$hns$1@sunnews.cern.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextatd01.cern.ch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sunnews.cern.ch 918610353 18172 (None) 137.138.89.120 X-Complaints-To: news@sunnews.cern.ch X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29270 i just finished installing ns 3.3 to use the latest sw . this white icons and intelisme SUCKS!!!!! whoever decided to put white hw icons on next installation is a brainless idiot. i just wanted to say it. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.qis.net!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ns3.3 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <79qnjh$hns$1@sunnews.cern.ch> Lines: 23 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 03:25:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.214 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918617127 209.212.132.214 (Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:25:27 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:25:27 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29271 In <79qnjh$hns$1@sunnews.cern.ch> Operator wrote: > i just finished installing ns 3.3 to use the latest sw . > this white icons and intelisme SUCKS!!!!! whoever > decided to put white hw icons on next installation > is a brainless idiot. i just wanted to say it. Repeat after me: "the shift key is my friend." OK, now you can restore the white icons with ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/graphics/icons/BlackIcons.2.1.d.pkg.tar.gz There's at least one other package out there to do this too TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!feeder.qis.net!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: rlogin and termcap X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <79okbq$fcv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Lines: 19 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 03:26:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.214 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 918617205 209.212.132.214 (Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:26:45 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:26:45 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29272 Have you tried adding TERM=vt100 (for decent shells) or set TERM=vt100 (for t/csh shells) ? TjL -- New OmniWeb license through Mar 31st (use the the key and "Owner" below!) Owner: Expiring OmniWeb beta license License Key: MKGH-VUAC-NSSC-RAAZ-HMQY (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!blackbush.xlink.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.89.75.15!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <631918363637@digifix.com> Date: 14 Feb 1999 04:44:27 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 342 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <15546918968424@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:118706 comp.sys.next.announce:4903 comp.sys.next.hardware:36131 comp.sys.next.software:35420 comp.sys.next.misc:29273 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32900 comp.sys.next.bugs:5030 comp.sys.next.programmer:30346 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Peanuts Archive http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/Rhapsody http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/MacOSX http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/WebObjects http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData The Peanuts-Archive is the premier site in Europe and mirrored in whole or parts all over the world. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Site http://www.apple.com/macosx/ Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Developer Site http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server/ Apple Computer's WebObjects Site http://www.apple.com/webobjects/ Mac OS X Server Developer Documentation http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosxserver/macosxserver.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!usenet From: "Sung" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ns3.3 Date: 14 Feb 1999 22:04:32 GMT Organization: Cornell University Lines: 13 Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <01be5866$5bfd7bc0$06ac2ac0@bigred> References: <79qnjh$hns$1@sunnews.cern.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: l0090.dialup.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29274 There is a way to change this, you know. Just to alleviate your concerns. Regards, Sung Operator wrote in article <79qnjh$hns$1@sunnews.cern.ch>... > i just finished installing ns 3.3 to use the latest sw . > this white icons and intelisme SUCKS!!!!! whoever > decided to put white hw icons on next installation > is a brainless idiot. i just wanted to say it. > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!news1.digital.com!pa.dec.com!crl.dec.com!not-for-mail From: Kamau Wanguhu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Linux for NeXT Cube? Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:40:14 -0500 Organization: COmpaq Computer Corporation Lines: 10 Message-ID: <36C77AFE.E2CD39B9@crl.dec.com> Reply-To: kamau@crl.dec.com NNTP-Posting-Host: krusher.crl.dec.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29275 comp.sys.next.advocacy:118723 Is there a version of linux that runs on the NeXT hardware. I had heard of a version that could be used with BOOTP but can not seem to find it anywhere. No flames please. :> Kamau Wanguhu kamau@crl.dec.com kamau@BORGcube.com #################################################################### From: ian@nyro.com (I.H.Stewart) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:19:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <19990210061703.nothere@postoffice.net> Subject: Samba configs - please Organization: NYRO Technix - Makers of NYRO-SPACE & Mind. X-NewsReader: Emissary News v2.00.047, by Attachmate Corp. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.239.200.76 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.239.200.76 X-Trace: 10 Feb 1999 06:40:31 -0800, 209.239.200.76 Lines: 8 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.63.224.240 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.210.46.218!news-west.eli.net!news1.jps.net!209.239.200.76 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32906 comp.sys.next.misc:29276 comp.sys.next.software:35435 Need some sample samba.conf that show file sharing and printing to NLP for my Win95 clients. Mine is not working and I would love something to compare against. ih #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: revaaron@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: File transfer between a PC and a NeXT Cube? Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 06:46:55 GMT Organization: Your Basement Lines: 15 Message-ID: <79ra0u$qav$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.177.135.21 X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Feb 10 06:46:55 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x11.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 216.177.135.21 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:35437 comp.sys.next.misc:29277 Good day, Has anyone an easy way to transfer files between a 68040 NeXT Cube and a PC? I can do this under Linux or Windows 98, preferably Windows, simply because I am stuck with a winmodem. Can this be achieved through ethernet, and if so, how? I'm pretty new to networking, so forgive my ignorance. I'd appreciate an email reply as I don't frequent these newsgroups. Thanks in advance! Aaron -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Linux for NeXT Cube? References: <36C77AFE.E2CD39B9@crl.dec.com> From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9) NNTP-Posting-Host: wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Message-ID: <36c7f88c.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: 15 Feb 99 10:35:56 GMT Lines: 23 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!uni-wuerzburg.de!wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29278 comp.sys.next.advocacy:118729 Kamau Wanguhu wrote: >Is there a version of linux that runs on the NeXT hardware. I had >heard of a version that could be used with BOOTP but can not seem to >find it anywhere. > >No flames please. :> I found two links for Linux/NeXTstep: http://ftp.zabbo.net/linux/next http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/7420 greets Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Framemaker 4.0 for Nextstation? Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 15 Feb 1999 17:07:44 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <7a9cup$q4b$1@news1.bu.edu> Message-ID: <19990215120744.05295.00001887@ng23.aol.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29279 Hmm, as far as I know, FrameMaker never got past 3.2--you may want to up-date to that and see if it does any better. Doesn't 4.0 have an option to file save as or export to 3.x format? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!chico.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!ayres.ftech.net!news.ftech.net!peer.news.zetnet.net!zetnet.co.uk!not-for-mail From: Pete Fenelon Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Linux for NeXT Cube? Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:27:03 +0000 Lines: 15 Message-ID: <7648a7.3r.ln@fenelon.zetnet.co.uk> References: <36C77AFE.E2CD39B9@crl.dec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: man-055.dialup.zetnet.co.uk X-Trace: roch.zetnet.co.uk 919105848 4495 194.247.41.68 (15 Feb 1999 19:10:48 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Feb 1999 19:10:48 GMT User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980226 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.36 (i586)) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29280 comp.sys.next.advocacy:118745 In comp.sys.next.misc Kamau Wanguhu wrote: > Is there a version of linux that runs on the NeXT hardware. I had heard > of a version that could be used with BOOTP but can not seem to find it > anywhere. I'm unaware of a Linux, but there is a NetBSD port at a fairly early stage of maturity. Plan 9 (...from Bell Labs, not Outer Space) also runs on NeXT hardware... a fun OS to experiment with if you get the chance. pete -- Pete Fenelon, 3 Beckside Gardens, York, YO10 3TX, UK (pete.fenelon@zetnet.co.uk) ``there's no room for enigmas in built-up areas'' #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.idt.net!nyd.news.ans.net!znr.news.ans.net!news.chips.ibm.com!newsfeed.btv.ibm.com!rtpnews.raleigh.ibm.com!not-for-mail From: Henry Koplien Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS3.3 and Y2K Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:37:32 +0100 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Lines: 14 Distribution: comp Message-ID: <36C9203C.2781@de.ibm.com> References: <36c1b831.6537510@news.slkc.uswest.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mc03.boeblingen.de.ibm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; AIX 1) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29281 Christian Shank wrote: > > What exactly are the options for NS3.3 and Y2K compliance? > > According to Apples OpenStep website, the only option is to upgrade to > OpenStep 4.2 which for educational users costs 299.00 which is in my The question was NS3.3 related.... No. You are on your own with NS3.3. The date patch you will find at peak. The rest is the at-stuff which fails (by now). As far as I know someone ported the Free BSD source to NeXT. henry #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!torn!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Linux for NeXT Cube? Date: 15 Feb 1999 19:37:46 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 22 Message-ID: <919107466.614611@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca> References: <36C77AFE.E2CD39B9@crl.dec.com> <36c7f88c.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: watserv4.uwaterloo.ca Cache-Post-Path: watserv4.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29282 comp.sys.next.advocacy:118763 In article <36c7f88c.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>, Sven Droll wrote: >Kamau Wanguhu wrote: >>Is there a version of linux that runs on the NeXT hardware. I had >>heard of a version that could be used with BOOTP but can not seem to >>find it anywhere. >> >>No flames please. :> > >I found two links for Linux/NeXTstep: > >http://ftp.zabbo.net/linux/next >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/7420 > There's also NetBSD/next68k: http://www.netbsd.org/ -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wantedmisc.forsale.computers.mac,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mentor,comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.msx,comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.net-computer,comp.sys.net-computer.announce,comp.sys.newton,comp.sys.newton.announce,comp.sys.newton.marketplace,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: cmsg cancel <13290493-1702990124500001@ccas11-sli46.t-net.net.ve> Control: cancel <13290493-1702990124500001@ccas11-sli46.t-net.net.ve> Date: 17 Feb 1999 05:23:37 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: 13290493@geocities.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.cwix.com!158.43.192.17!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!news-lond.gip.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news-dc.gip.net!news-fw.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news01.t-net.net.ve!ccas11-sli46.t-net.net.ve!user X-Original-Subject: please read X-Original-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:24:50 -0400 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.49.129.169 X-Original-From: 13290493@geocities.com X-Original-X-Trace: news01.t-net.net.ve 919228946 206.49.129.169 (Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:22:26 GMT) X-CosmoTraq: 7;15SF\\\0K(XQ>"R[8P1"NH*E^!RF(\_3*N:DU]-:%L6"W%._T`RR0] X-Cancel-ID: UMT>U5!C#GUB@9M%Y_I^^@8-3@6`DSZMDK'+=1 From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 17 Feb 99 09:50:06 MDT Reply-To: edx@cc.usu.edu Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: asy64.xy1.usu.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.7 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 17 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29283 Rendezvous 4.0, satellite tracking software for OpenStep, is now in the beta release stage. I'm looking for people who might like to try the software out, put it through the paces, and give me some feedback on bugs and problems. If you think you'd be interested, have a look at the preliminary documentation pages here: http://cc.usu.edu/~edx/rendezvous/doc_index.html Anyone still interested after looking over these pages should contact me for information on retrieving the software. Thanks, edx@cc.usu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: pokey069@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Linux for NeXT Cube? Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:47:36 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 26 Message-ID: <7ac3ul$rjh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <36C77AFE.E2CD39B9@crl.dec.com> <7648a7.3r.ln@fenelon.zetnet.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.79.57.72 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Feb 16 15:47:36 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0b2; Windows 98) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x14.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 206.79.57.72 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29284 comp.sys.next.advocacy:118781 Unfortunatly last I checked, Lucent/AT&T still charges you for plan 9. I would pay for Openstep before I paid for Plan 9 In article <7648a7.3r.ln@fenelon.zetnet.co.uk>, Pete Fenelon wrote: > In comp.sys.next.misc Kamau Wanguhu wrote: > > Is there a version of linux that runs on the NeXT hardware. I had heard > > of a version that could be used with BOOTP but can not seem to find it > > anywhere. > > I'm unaware of a Linux, but there is a NetBSD port at a fairly early stage > of maturity. > > Plan 9 (...from Bell Labs, not Outer Space) also runs on NeXT > hardware... a fun OS to experiment with if you get the chance. > > pete > -- > Pete Fenelon, 3 Beckside Gardens, York, YO10 3TX, UK (pete.fenelon@zetnet.co.uk) > ``there's no room for enigmas in built-up areas'' > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.idt.net!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone.swbell.net!uunet!ffx.uu.net!in1.uu.net!hotmomma!not-for-mail From: John Badanes Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: tape-backup suggestions? Date: 18 Feb 1999 05:02:26 GMT Organization: none Lines: 9 Message-ID: <7ag6t2$7hi$1@redhotmomma.ssr.com> Reply-To: teo@XXXtaconic.net NNTP-Posting-Host: gb-asc1-p38.taconic.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.81) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29285 What are people using for tape-backup with their black hardware? I'm running 3.3 and have quite a few files I'd hate to lose and/or have to re-create. Anyone? Reply to the group if you have some suggestions. TEO. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: tape-backup suggestions? Date: 18 Feb 1999 16:23:16 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 18 Message-ID: <7ahepk$66f$2@news.spacelab.net> References: <7ag6t2$7hi$1@redhotmomma.ssr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29286 John Badanes wrote: >What are people using for tape-backup with their black hardware? >I'm running 3.3 and have quite a few files I'd hate to lose and/or >have to re-create. Depending on how much stuff you need to archive and how much money you're willing to spend, a 4mm DAT is probably a decent bet. If you've got lots of stuff or money to blow, look into DLT...which is probably outside the range of an individual machine, but a great choice for business. For software, either use dump/restore (free, CLI, arcane) or SafetyNet (commercial product, amazing GUI, awesome program) -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.bu.edu!acs4.bu.edu!charris From: charris@bu.edu (Catherine Harris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Framemaker 4.0 for Nextstation? Date: 15 Feb 1999 15:02:49 GMT Organization: Boston University Lines: 12 Message-ID: <7a9cup$q4b$1@news1.bu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: acs4.bu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29287 Hi. I bought Framemaker 3.0 back in 1991 for my Nextstation and have been using it daily ever since -- except now I have a mac powerbook that runs Framemaker 4.0. Files edited on the mac now can't be edited on the Next (unless they are very simple, in which case they can be saved as mif and read by Framemaker 3.0). Is there a Framemaker 4.0 for the NextStation? Is there a way to convert a framemaker 4.0 file to a 3.0? Have other people been in this situation? Thanks for advice, Cathy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!192.232.20.2!malgudi.oar.net!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!haff+ From: George B Haff Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: console logins Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:40:13 -0500 Organization: Junior, Mathematical Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: po8.andrew.cmu.edu X-Trace: bb3.andrew.cmu.edu 919377695 24668 128.2.10.108 (18 Feb 1999 22:41:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: postman+netnews@andrew.cmu.edu@bb3.andrew.cmu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Feb 1999 22:41:35 GMT X-Added: With Flames (outnews v2.6) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29288 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32944 is there any way to limit a user to console logins only (or the converse, disalow remote logins..) ? thanks, -george --- ________________________________________ |: george b haff DiXuM :| |: :| |: :| |: :| |: "y2k will rock your lame ass" :| |: -a bumper sticker :| :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news3.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <36CF1171.C5D14458@best.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:48:01 -0800 From: Joe Bresler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin@best.com, phy070@power.uni-essen.de Subject: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: jbresler.vip.best.com X-Trace: nntp1.ba.best.com 919539966 201 204.156.155.48 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29289 comp.sys.next.software:35471 Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when networked with a PC? I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need anything besides a mini hub and the cabling? My PC has a networking card installed and is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a file server and print server (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would hopefully be down the line.... Thanks for any help you can give me! Thanks, Joe jbresler@best.com Robert Bullock > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? > > -- > To reply: remove the from my email address: > rcbullock@home.com > But you knew that didn't you ;P #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news3.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:48:15 -0800 From: Joe Bresler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software To: phy070@power.uni-essen.de Subject: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: jbresler.vip.best.com X-Trace: nntp1.ba.best.com 919539980 201 204.156.155.48 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32946 comp.sys.next.misc:29290 comp.sys.next.software:35473 Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when networked with a PC? I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need anything besides a mini hub and the cabling? My PC has a networking card installed and is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a file server and print server (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would hopefully be down the line.... Thanks for any help you can give me! Thanks, Joe jbresler@best.com Robert Bullock > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? > > -- > To reply: remove the from my email address: > rcbullock@home.com > But you knew that didn't you ;P #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!192.148.253.68!netnews.com!news.servint.com!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!monger.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: NXCommandKeys article -- would it be helpful? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 02:52:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.171 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 919565539 209.212.132.171 (Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:52:19 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:52:19 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29291 Someone suggested I write an article explaining how to use the NXCommandKeys dwrite. (those are the keys, like "command p" for print.... they are configurable on a per-app basis using Terminal.app in addition to be configurable system-wide using Preferences.app Would anyone else find this interesting/useful? If there's interest I'll finish what I started, but I wondered if anyone would read it. Are there other topics folks would like to see addressed in webpages? If so, what? TjL -- (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) Nothing witty to say today. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.114.4.11!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Robert Bullock" .home.com> Subject: Re: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com> Organization: Susie Message-ID: <01be5d4d$7c434180$010044c0@cx714092-a> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 Lines: 52 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 03:49:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.103.153 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news.rdc1.tx.home.com 919568940 24.4.103.153 (Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:49:00 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:49:00 PDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32949 comp.sys.next.misc:29292 comp.sys.next.software:35477 Joe Bresler wrote in article <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com>... > Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when networked > with a PC? Well I can browse and use my CD and my first partition on my HD (maybe that has something to do with my problem, access to 1st partition only?). And I can browse the web and get my mail (still have to make it send rigght tho.) and read news. I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono > slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need anything > besides a mini hub and the cabling? I used 2 NIC's and coax cabling to the NeXT and the PC was in the middle with the other network card on a cable modem. My PC has a networking card installed and > is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a file > server and print server Can't help you there, mine goes the other way. (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the > nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would hopefully > be down the line.... I use: WinGate 2.1 under Windows 95 as a proxy server (free 1 user) TrueGrid NFS server (free) PopOver (for getting mail on the NeXT) > Robert Bullock > > > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > > > > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and > > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition > > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <15546918968424@digifix.com> Date: 21 Feb 1999 04:44:23 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 342 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <7743919573220@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:118867 comp.sys.next.announce:4910 comp.sys.next.hardware:36223 comp.sys.next.software:35478 comp.sys.next.misc:29293 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32952 comp.sys.next.bugs:5032 comp.sys.next.programmer:30369 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep http://www.peak.org/rhapsody PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. Peanuts Archive http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/Rhapsody http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/MacOSX http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/WebObjects http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData The Peanuts-Archive is the premier site in Europe and mirrored in whole or parts all over the world. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://enterprise.apple.com http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Site http://www.apple.com/macosx/ Apple Computer's Mac OS X Server Developer Site http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server/ Apple Computer's WebObjects Site http://www.apple.com/webobjects/ Mac OS X Server Developer Documentation http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosxserver/macosxserver.html WebObjects Documentation http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <36CFA60D.125B@swbell.net> Control: cancel <36CFA60D.125B@swbell.net> Date: 21 Feb 1999 06:12:00 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: Andy Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon01.swbell.net.POSTED!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: Mouse trouble? X-Original-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 00:22:05 -0600 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.15.96.163 X-Original-From: Andy X-Original-X-Trace: typhoon01.swbell.net 919577511 208.15.96.163 (Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:11:51 PDT) X-CosmoTraq: E5P/5.<2A89&UQ[TZZ!>6443WQ(-AJP?L0K[/$TL3+U1(E[2,8\T^#=! X-Cancel-ID: B$]#!G&$/Z+4,PTSV.ML;+A_2?`C23 X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de control.cancel:6012370 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!haff+ From: George B Haff Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WetPaint license Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 03:55:56 -0500 Organization: Junior, Mathematical Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4qnwcQG00bkG189es0@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po9.andrew.cmu.edu X-Trace: bb3.andrew.cmu.edu 919587423 18987 128.2.10.109 (21 Feb 1999 08:57:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: postman+netnews@andrew.cmu.edu@bb3.andrew.cmu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Feb 1999 08:57:03 GMT X-Added: With Flames (outnews v2.6) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:22977 comp.sys.next.software:35481 comp.sys.next.misc:29294 does anyone know where i can get a license for or purchase a working copy of wetPaint and other lighthouse apps? thanks, -george --- ________________________________________ |: george b haff DiXuM :| |: :| |: :| |: :| |: "y2k will rock your lame ass" :| |: -a bumper sticker :| :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: pokey069@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 15:16:02 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 59 Message-ID: <7ap7vd$vre$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com> <01be5d4d$7c434180$010044c0@cx714092-a> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.78.113.157 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Feb 21 15:16:02 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0b2; Windows 98) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x14.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 12.78.113.157 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32953 comp.sys.next.misc:29295 comp.sys.next.software:35482 Why not try using samba instead of NFS? In article <01be5d4d$7c434180$010044c0@cx714092-a>, "Robert Bullock" .home.com> wrote: > > > Joe Bresler wrote in article > <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com>... > > Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when > networked > > with a PC? > > Well I can browse and use my CD and my first partition on my HD (maybe that > has something to do with my problem, access to 1st partition only?). And I > can browse the web and get my mail (still have to make it send rigght tho.) > and read news. > > I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono > > slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need > anything > > besides a mini hub and the cabling? > > I used 2 NIC's and coax cabling to the NeXT and the PC was in the middle > with the other network card on a cable modem. > > My PC has a networking card installed and > > is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a > file > > server and print server > > Can't help you there, mine goes the other way. > > (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the > > nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would > hopefully > > be down the line.... > > I use: > > WinGate 2.1 under Windows 95 as a proxy server (free 1 user) > TrueGrid NFS server (free) > PopOver (for getting mail on the NeXT) > > > Robert Bullock > > > > > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: > > > > > > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS > > > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' > and > > > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive > > > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the > partition > > > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? > > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own #################################################################### Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:06:23 -0600 From: vvvv Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Two questions... Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit User-Agent: YA-NewsWatcher/3.1.5 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-207.advancenet.net Lines: 20 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.slurp.net!nntp1.savvis.net!news.advancenet.net!nn Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29296 I'm setting up a LAN which includes a NeXT Station running OpenStep 4.2. I've tried telneting from my MkLinux box to the NeXT Station, but I get a "Warning No termcap entry for Linux. Editing disabled". How do I fix this? My second question is: I have a hard drive I removed from an external case. I was able to mount the drive, format and install a virgin system while it was in the case, however when I installed it internally I get a "SCSI Bus hung" error. I thought that maybe it wasn't terminated, but for the life of me I can't find any jumpers that allow for termination on the drive, any suggestions on getting it to work internally? P.S. Please mail responses directly to me rather than just posting, my ISP doesn't carry very many of the posts in this newsgroup. TIA, Scott Johnson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!netnews.com!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!dca1-feed4.news.digex.net!digex!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: tape-backup suggestions? Date: 21 Feb 1999 10:18:47 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Lines: 42 Message-ID: <7ap84n$15l@papoose.quick.com> References: <7ag6t2$7hi$1@redhotmomma.ssr.com> <7ahepk$66f$2@news.spacelab.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29297 In article <7ahepk$66f$2@news.spacelab.net>, Charles W. Swiger wrote: >John Badanes wrote: >>What are people using for tape-backup with their black hardware? >>I'm running 3.3 and have quite a few files I'd hate to lose and/or >>have to re-create. > >Depending on how much stuff you need to archive and how much money you're >willing to spend, a 4mm DAT is probably a decent bet. If you've got lots of >stuff or money to blow, look into DLT...which is probably outside the range >of an individual machine, but a great choice for business. I agree with Chuck that a 4mm engine is the best route for inexpensive backup. The media cost for DDS-1 and DDS-2 tapes is very good, and the media is quite reliable. Just a couple of words to think about as you are looking. Stay away from DDS-1 drives. They can only support 1.3 - 2.6 GB per tape and had low transfer rates 400KB/sec. Older DDS-2 drives support 2-4GB per tape and still have a native transfer of 400KB/s but for compressible data will average closer to 600-700KB/s. The newest family of DAT, DDS-3 have higher transfer rates and longer MBTF. The HP is a good drive family, but I prefer the Sony for its slightly higher transfer rates. The HP engine is 1.1-2.2MB/s while the Sony is 1.2-2.4MB/s. Though a bit pricey at $25/tape the DDS-3 cartridges hold 12-24GB per tape. A DDS-3 drive can still use DDS1 and DDS2 tapes. Shopping around I was able to find a DDS-3 Sony drive in an external enclosure for about $750, new. The transfer rate and density of the DLT, engine is quite good but there is a downside that most people don't think about. The plastics used in DLT cartridges are not the best. If a tape is dropped onto a hard surface, a fall that would do nothing to 8mm, 4mm, 3490, or AIT, can ruin a DLT cartridge. So only go DLT if you can both afford it, and are careful. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | If only the HMO would cover my allergy to gravity. ) | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!cyclone.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WetPaint license Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 21 Feb 1999 11:27:15 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 23 Message-ID: <7aoqij$j7q$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <4qnwcQG00bkG189es0@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo2.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:22980 comp.sys.next.software:35485 comp.sys.next.misc:29298 it is somewhere in teh peak archives they have the license strings in teh lighthouse dir godwin George B Haff (haff+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : does anyone know where i can get a license for or purchase a working : copy of wetPaint and other lighthouse apps? : thanks, : -george : --- : ________________________________________ : |: george b haff DiXuM :| : |: :| : |: :| : |: :| : |: "y2k will rock your lame ass" :| : |: -a bumper sticker :| : :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!cyclone.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How do I network a win95 PC with a nextstation mono (ns3.3)? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Feb 1999 11:28:57 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 39 Message-ID: <7aoqlp$j7q$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <01be5619$c4d950a0$010044c0@cx714092-a> <36CF117F.3563AAC2@best.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo2.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:32954 comp.sys.next.misc:29299 comp.sys.next.software:35486 install SAMBA Client and Server.. it should work godwin Joe Bresler (jbresler@best.com) wrote: : Has anyone been able to get a nextstep machine to work properly when networked : with a PC? I've got a win95 PC that I'd like to hook up to my nextstation mono : slab (ns3.3, user edition), but I'm not sure how to do it. So I need anything : besides a mini hub and the cabling? My PC has a networking card installed and : is ready to go. I'd like to hook up to the nextstation and use it as a file : server and print server (so I can use my next laser printer). Using the : nextstation as a server with ISDN to hook up to the Internet would hopefully : be down the line.... : Thanks for any help you can give me! : Thanks, : Joe : jbresler@best.com : Robert Bullock : > Weird problem with NFS and NS3.3: : > : > When I browse my D: drive partition on my Win95 machine (it's the NFS : > server using the TrueGrid NFS server I get a 'workspace manager error' and : > back to the login screen it goes. But browsing C: partition (same drive : > physically) it's fine as well as browsing the CD. Accessing the partition : > through a shell works fine. Any ideas on that? : > : > -- : > To reply: remove the from my email address: : > rcbullock@home.com : > But you knew that didn't you ;P #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news1.best.com!kiowa.exodus.net!209.185.64.21.MISMATCH!news-master.service.talkway.com!c01read02.service.talkway.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "spcaylor" Subject: Help entering the rom monitor Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Lines: 11 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:12:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.185.64.202 X-Complaints-To: abuse@talkway.com X-Trace: c01read02.service.talkway.com 919627978 209.185.64.202 (Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:12:58 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:12:58 PDT Organization: Talkway, Inc. Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29300 I am having trouble entering the rom monitor; I own a NeXT turbo cube with an ND board, running NS 3.3. The keyboard I own is an ADB with one command bar. PLEASE HELP. Shannon Caylor -- Posted via Talkway - http://www.talkway.com Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email -- always at Talkway. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news1.best.com!kiowa.exodus.net!209.185.64.21.MISMATCH!news-master.service.talkway.com!c01read02.service.talkway.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "spcaylor" Subject: Help entering the rom monitor Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Lines: 11 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:07:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.185.64.202 X-Complaints-To: abuse@talkway.com X-Trace: c01read02.service.talkway.com 919627663 209.185.64.202 (Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:07:43 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:07:43 PDT Organization: Talkway, Inc. Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29301 I am having trouble entering the rom monitor; I own a NeXT turbo cube with an ND board, running NS 3.3. The keyboard I own is an ADB with one command bar. PLEASE HELP. Shannon Caylor -- Posted via Talkway - http://www.talkway.com Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email -- always at Talkway. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!firehose.mindspring.com!not-for-mail From: Mike Curtis Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Velocity 128 Video from STB with RIVA Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:04:27 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 15 Message-ID: <36D0126A.9D98FB15@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.38.70 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 21 Feb 1999 14:06:39 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36233 comp.sys.next.software:35488 comp.sys.next.misc:29302 Does anyone know of a driver that exists for NS [mach] 3.3 on Intel Pentium Pro MB?? Please reply directly to me if you prefer; especially if this is a stupid question ;-) Thanks, Mike -- "We better get back cause it'll be dark soon and they mostly come at night, mostly..." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news1.best.com!kiowa.exodus.net!209.185.64.21.MISMATCH!news-master.service.talkway.com!c01read02.service.talkway.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "spcaylor" Subject: Help entering the rom monitor Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Lines: 11 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:07:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.185.64.202 X-Complaints-To: abuse@talkway.com X-Trace: c01read02.service.talkway.com 919627639 209.185.64.202 (Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:07:19 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:07:19 PDT Organization: Talkway, Inc. Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29303 I am having trouble entering the rom monitor; I own a NeXT turbo cube with an ND board, running NS 3.3. The keyboard I own is an ADB with one command bar. PLEASE HELP. Shannon Caylor -- Posted via Talkway - http://www.talkway.com Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email -- always at Talkway. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!news1.optus.net.au!optus!news.uwa.edu.au!parma!rameri From: Rameri Salama Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WetPaint license Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 06:43:29 +0800 Organization: The University of Western Australia Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <4qnwcQG00bkG189es0@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: parma.cs.uwa.oz.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: rameri@parma In-Reply-To: <4qnwcQG00bkG189es0@andrew.cmu.edu> X-URL: http://www.cs.uwa.edu.au/~rameri Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:22983 comp.sys.next.software:35490 comp.sys.next.misc:29304 On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, George B Haff wrote: > does anyone know where i can get a license for or purchase a working > copy of wetPaint and other lighthouse apps? ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LighthouseDesign/LicenseStrings.txt Enjoy. Rameri #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!206.249.10.7!news.mxol.com!not-for-mail From: "Charles W. Swiger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: tape-backup suggestions? Date: 21 Feb 1999 23:06:57 GMT Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access Lines: 21 Message-ID: <7aq3ih$9ho$1@news.spacelab.net> References: <7ag6t2$7hi$1@redhotmomma.ssr.com> <7ahepk$66f$2@news.spacelab.net> <7ap84n$15l@papoose.quick.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.148.46.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.9PR5) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29305 jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) wrote: [ ... ] > The plastics used in DLT cartridges are not the best. If a > tape is dropped onto a hard surface, a fall that would do > nothing to 8mm, 4mm, 3490, or AIT, can ruin a DLT cartridge. > So only go DLT if you can both afford it, and are careful. Hmm. We're using the DLTtape III cartridges from Quantum, and they seem to be made of reasonably durable stuff. The case is standard injection-molded plastic (polyurethane? ABS?), actually held together by screws instead of glue, and the plastic is between 5 and 6 business cards thick. :-) They'd probably break before a 4mm would just beacuse they're a lot heavier, but they seem tougher than QIC/Travan cartridges-- which are more comparible in terms of weight. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away. ----------------+-------------------+---------------------------- You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!awabi.library.ucla.edu!137.82.194.1!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Velocity 128 Video from STB with RIVA Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 21 Feb 1999 23:42:38 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 20 Message-ID: <7aq5le$6ju$3@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <36D0126A.9D98FB15@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo2.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:36244 comp.sys.next.software:35493 comp.sys.next.misc:29306 Do you mean the Fastvid drivers?? I think there is on some where on peak godwin Mike Curtis (michaelcurtis@mindspring.com) wrote: : Does anyone know of a driver that exists for NS [mach] 3.3 on Intel : Pentium Pro MB?? Please reply directly to me if you prefer; especially : if this is a stupid question ;-) : Thanks, : Mike : -- : "We better get back cause it'll be dark soon : and they mostly come at night, mostly..." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!news.servint.com!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!monger.newsread.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help entering the rom monitor X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(i) Organization: would be nice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="RadicalNews36d0c5ff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Lines: 30 Message-ID: <8C3A2.522$mc.1321@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:50:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.212.132.216 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 919651844 209.212.132.216 (Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:50:44 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:50:44 EDT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29307 --RadicalNews36d0c5ff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In "spcaylor" wrote: > I am having trouble entering the rom monitor; I own a NeXT turbo cube > with an ND board, running NS 3.3. The keyboard I own is an ADB with > one command bar. http://www.peak.org/~luomat/articles/FAQs/ROM-monitor.html How do I get to the ROM monitor? Non-ADB keyboards - If the system is running, hold down BOTH command keys and press the ` key which is over the 7 on the keypad. That bring up the "NMI Mini monitor". Enter halt which will sync and halt the system and then bring you to the ROM monitor. - If the system NOT is running, power on the machine and wait until the "Testing System" message passes, and then hold down BOTH command keys and press the ` key which is over the 7 on the keypad. ADB keyboards Hold down both the Left ALT key and the Command Bar, and press the ~ (tilde) key WITHOUT pressing the shift key. TjL -- (Remove obvious portion if replying by email.) Nothing witty to say today. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!comnets.rwth-aachen.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!remarQ73!supernews.com!remarQ.com!remarQ69!not-for-mail From: gregor@visuallink.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help entering the rom monitor Date: 22 Feb 1999 02:17:50 GMT Organization: Posted via RemarQ, http://www.remarQ.com - Discussions start here! Lines: 15 Message-ID: <7aqeoe$prk$1@remarQ.com> References: Reply-To: gregor@visuallink.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.151.88.84 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 919649870 GNLKKBBSV5854CE97C usenet87.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@remarQ.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.8 Beta(n) Cc: spcaylor@mailcity.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29308 In "spcaylor" wrote: > I am having trouble entering the rom monitor; I own a NeXT turbo cube > with an ND board, running NS 3.3. The keyboard I own is an ADB with > one command bar. > > PLEASE HELP. > > Shannon Caylor > Depress the left ALT key, command bar and tilde and you should arrive at the ROM monitor. gregor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-hh.maz.net!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!192.26.210.166!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.quebectel.com!news.quebectel.com!not-for-mail From: Shawn Astels Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Last Day's Prophecy Website Date: 22 Feb 1999 09:10:39 GMT Organization: GlobeTrotter Lines: 12 Message-ID: <7ar6uf$oeh$16879@news.quebectel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-09.f1104.quebectel.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:29309 Hello, I hope that everyone will stop in and visite my Last Day's Prophecy Bible Website, My website includes information on False Bible Versions, Salvation, The Antichrist, Y2K Year 2000 Bug, And Alot More. 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The keyboard I own is an ADB with > one command bar. > > PLEASE HELP. > > Shannon Caylor > -- > Posted via Talkway - http://www.talkway.com > Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email -- always at Talkway. Hit Command-Left Alt-~ right after the 'testing system' message. Marcel --------------F34E00BA2100F3841AC3230D Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="volkerts.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Marcel Volkerts Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="volkerts.vcf" begin:vcard n:Volkerts;Marcel x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:KVI;Experimental Nuclear Physics adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:volkerts@kvi.nl note;quoted-printable:Phone +31 50 3632054=0D=0AFax +31 50 3634003 x-mozilla-cpt:;-18016 fn:Marcel Volkerts end:vcard --------------F34E00BA2100F3841AC3230D--