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From: weber@informatik.uni-kl.de (Gunther Weber AG Hagen)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: V: Alles Moegliche
Date: 1 Apr 1998 18:36:00 +0200
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Distribution: world
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Hallo!
Ich soll wieder mal fuer einen Bekannten ein Angebot posten. Diesmal
ist das ein wirkliuches Sammelsurium von Dingen:
2 NeXTStations mit Laserdrucker
Mathematica Version 2.0 (originalverpackt)
OpenStep for Mach 4.0 (Intel/Motorola)
Diagram 2.0
ToolsBook
=> Duden und Taschenwoerterbuch Englisch als eBook
conText
Cub'X-Window
div. NextStep Versionen (3.0 + 3.1 + 3.3)
Sybase-Server
Craftman
Adobe Illustrator
Bei Interesse bitte direkt an ihn wenden (Tel. 0621/833 2311). Ich habe
damit nichts ausser dem posten zu tun und habe keinerlei Ahnung von
Preisvorstellungen etc.
Bis dann
Gunther H. Weber
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Subject: ?!? Fehler im Zeichensatz
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Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:14:32 GMT
Xcanpos: shelf.01/199804140201!0013642180
Kann mir jemand sagen, woran das liegen kann?
Seit heute wird in jedem Programm statt des grossen t eine 4 geschrieben
und das mit allen Zeichensaetzen, auch in den menues sind gross t s durch
eine 4 ersetzt. Wie kan das wieder gerichtet werden?
--
Gru
Manfred
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From: Ted Bilmer<ted@biosys.net>
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Subject: - <<< Test Drive THIS for 30 Days - FREE! >>
Date: 1 Apr 1998 20:40:08 GMT
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From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
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Subject: Netscape!?
Date: 1 Apr 1998 22:54:51 GMT
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FYI,
habe mir gerade die Coomunicator-5-Sourcen gezogen. Da sehe ich doch im
Verzeichnis config ein Makefile NEXTSTEP.mk!
Daraus:
------------8<-----------
ARCH := nextstep
CPU_ARCH := m68k
[...]
ifeq ($(OS_RELEASE),3.3)
PLATFORM_FLAGS += -DNEXTSTEP3 -DNEXTSTEP33
else
ifeq ($(OS_RELEASE),4.2)
PLATFORM_FLAGS += -DNEXTSTEP4 -DNEXTSTEP42
endif
endif
------------8<-----------
Gruß,
Rainer
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: NS 3.3 auf PII-System
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:14:04 GMT
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Martin Oettle <martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de> wrote:
: Ich benutze Boards der Marke ASUS. Und als Controller
: die ADAPTEC AHA 2940xxxx. Grafikkarten MATROX - Millenium I/II
: und Netzwerkkarten bisher SMC. Allerdings hatte ich mal
: eine SMC-Karte, die habe ich nicht zum Laufen gekriegt.
: War ein neuer DEC-Chip drauf, der nicht unterstuetzt wird.
: Benutze jetzt 3COM-Karten.
ACHTUNG! Es werden m.W. nicht _alle_ 3COM-Karten von NEXTSTEP
unterstuetzt! (Ich hatte neulich mal eine, die wollte partout nicht
laufen - Typ weiss ich leider nicht mehr.)
Ingmar
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: TrueTypefonts auf NeXT??
Date: 2 Apr 1998 12:44:02 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
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Xcanpos: shelf.01/199804141801!0009352730
Eberhard Wolff <ewolff@ponton.de> wrote:
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/fonts/converters/FontConvert.1.3b.NIHS
.b.tar.gz
> Sollte klappen, tat es jedenfalls bei mir.
Der FontConvert auf meiner Homepage in der Download Area kann das jetzt noch
viel besser (TTF -> Type 1)... die Version 1.3 ist schon etwas alt.
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* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ?!? Fehler im Zeichensatz
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:53:38 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
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In <Eqqyo8.Cw@manki.toppoint.de> Manfred Roehr wrote:
> Kann mir jemand sagen, woran das liegen kann?
> Seit heute wird in jedem Programm statt des grossen t eine 4 geschrieben
> und das mit allen Zeichensaetzen, auch in den menues sind gross t s durch
> eine 4 ersetzt. Wie kan das wieder gerichtet werden?
Bei Nextstep weiss ich das nicht, aber unter Windows gibt es ein sehr gutes
Tool von Adobe, liegt irgendwo auf www.adobe.com und behebt dieses
Fontproblem. Der Filename heisst april.exe oder so aehnlich, koennte auch
mai.com sein, da bin ich mir nicht so ganz sicher.
From: "Dr. Michael Paus" <Michael.Paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de>
Newsgroups: stgt.next,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Einladung zum naechsten NeKSt-Treffen in Stuttgart
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:04:54 +0200
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
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Hallo NeXT-Fans,
es ist mal wieder Zeit fuer unseren ueblichen NeXT-Stammtisch.
Ich habe daher fuer den kommenden Montag den 6. 4. 1998 um 20.00h wieder
einen Tisch im Sherlock reserviert. Alle die an einem Kloenschnack mit der
Stuttgarter NeXT User Gruppe Interesse haben sollten mal vorbeikommen.
(Fuer alle die immer noch nicht wissen wo das Sherlock ist:
Stuttgart Vaihingen, Pfaffenwaldring 62, Tel. 0711/6874909)
Ich hoffe auf zahlreiches Erscheinen
Michael
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Subject: Single?
Date: 3 Apr 1998 09:42:58 GMT
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http://www.sdaworld.com/atlantis/
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT-Usergroups, COMs, Dateien und Upgrade
Date: 3 Apr 1998 09:41:04 GMT
Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
> COM-Schnittstellen:
>
> Nachdem ich also es auch geschafft habe PPP + Gatekeeper zu
> installieren, würde ich jedoch COM3 anstatt COM2 an meiner Schüssel
> benutzen, nur wie richtet man die ein? (An COM3 hängt n schnelleres
> Modem als an 1+2 :)))
Benutzt Du noch die alten, bei NEXTSTEP 3.3 mitgelieferten seriellen Treiber?
Die taugen eh nix.
In den NeXTanswers gibt's neue, modular aufgebaute (nach "serial" suchen),
von denen Du beliebig viele Instanzen für Deine Schnittstellen installieren
kannst.
> Workplace:
Das Ding heißt "Work*sp*ace" ;-)
> Ich sehe auf der Workplace die NeXT-Architektur im DateienBrowser,
> jedoch die Systempfade (/usr usw.) nicht. Wie kommt das
Weil Du in Preferences.app (die Du über die Uhr im Dock erreichst) im
Experten-Modul (das mit dem UNIX-Diplom) nicht "UNIX-Experte angewählt" hast.
"Normale" Anwender sollen von diesen Innereien verschont bleiben.
Tschau
Uli
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From: Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NeXT-Usergroups, COMs, Dateien und Upgrade
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 04:49:45 -0100
Organization: Voss Net GmbH
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Hi!
Erst einmal will ich mich für die echt nützliche Hilfe der anwesenden
NeXTler bedanken, denn ich komme jeden Tag ein Stück weiter - THX!!!
Usergroups:
Gibt es eine NeXT-Usergroup in Hamburg?
COM-Schnittstellen:
Nachdem ich also es auch geschafft habe PPP + Gatekeeper zu
installieren, würde ich jedoch COM3 anstatt COM2 an meiner Schüssel
benutzen, nur wie richtet man die ein? (An COM3 hängt n schnelleres
Modem als an 1+2 :)))
Workplace:
Ich sehe auf der Workplace die NeXT-Architektur im DateienBrowser,
jedoch die Systempfade (/usr usw.) nicht. Wie kommt das, bzw. wie stelle
ich das ab...??? Steht ja alles mögliche dazu drin, aber das was ich
wissen will nicht oder eben sehr versteckt....
Upgrades:
So wie ich informiert bin, gibt es ja auch Fixes von NeXtStep 3.3. Was
bringen die, bzw. ist es sinnvoll diese zu installieren? (wei˜e Ware)
So, das war es mal wieder in aller Kürze :)
---
Joerg Sievers
22143 Hamburg
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Achtung SuperDraw4 Benutzer!
Date: 3 Apr 1998 17:27:30 GMT
Organization: Customer of EUnet Austria
Message-ID: <6g3662$4tn$1@news.Austria.EU.net>
Diese Nachricht wendet sich an _registrierte_ Benutzer von
SuperDraw4, die ihre lizenzierte Version von SD4 aufgrund
einer geaenderten Host ID nicht mehr verwenden koennen,
da sich Impact Inc., Hersteller von SD4, vor einiger Zeit
einfach in Luft aufgeloest hat.
Stefan Schneider Software, (ehemaliger) Business Alliance
Partner von Impact Inc., kann jetzt vielleicht etwas fuer Sie
tun. Fuer mehr Infos senden Sie bitte Email an <stefan@ping.at>.
mfg
- Stefan Schneider
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From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NS 3.3 auf PII-System
Date: 3 Apr 1998 07:44:36 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <6g2414$37p$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <1998Apr1.231404.11644@aurora.in-berlin.de>
In article <1998Apr1.231404.11644@aurora.in-berlin.de> Ingmar
Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de> writes:
> Martin Oettle <martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de> wrote:
>
> : Ich benutze Boards der Marke ASUS. Und als Controller
> : die ADAPTEC AHA 2940xxxx. Grafikkarten MATROX - Millenium I/II
> : und Netzwerkkarten bisher SMC. Allerdings hatte ich mal
> : eine SMC-Karte, die habe ich nicht zum Laufen gekriegt.
> : War ein neuer DEC-Chip drauf, der nicht unterstuetzt wird.
> : Benutze jetzt 3COM-Karten.
>
> ACHTUNG! Es werden m.W. nicht _alle_ 3COM-Karten von NEXTSTEP
> unterstuetzt! (Ich hatte neulich mal eine, die wollte partout nicht
> laufen - Typ weiss ich leider nicht mehr.)
>
stimmt, nur lief bei mir eine SMC Karte nicht, die explizit
im Compatibility-guide stand. Bei 3COM ist mir das bisher noch
nicht passiert. Man muss aber hoellisch aufpassen, weil leider
nicht alle Netzkarten einer Marke unterstuetzt werden
Ciao
Martin
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Date: 04 Apr 1998 16:26:00 +0100
From: tadams@pobox.com (Thomas Adams)
Sender: tom@cat.ping.de (Thomas Adams)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Message-ID: <6rEPJPfGGiB@cat.ping.de>
Subject: Mozilla übersetzen?
Bedeutet das NEXTSTEP.mk in den Mozilla Quellen das, was ich hoffe? Wenn
ja, hat es schon jemand erfolgreich übersetzt und das Binary irgendwo
abgelegt?
--
key id 0x1edf6259 at the usual places http://pobox.com/~tadams/
From: Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT-Usergroups, COMs, Dateien und Upgrade
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 19:55:49 -0100
Organization: Voss Net GmbH
Message-ID: <6g5rrh$q01$1@news.vossnet.de>
References: <6g1m21$aeu$1@news.vossnet.de> <6g2arg$i9@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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Hi!
On 3 Apr 1998 09:41:04 GMT, Uli Zappe wrote:
>Benutzt Du noch die alten, bei NEXTSTEP 3.3 mitgelieferten seriellen Treiber?
>Die taugen eh nix.
>In den NeXTanswers gibt's neue, modular aufgebaute (nach "serial" suchen),
>von denen Du beliebig viele Instanzen für Deine Schnittstellen installieren
>kannst.
Werde ich gleich tun.
>Das Ding heißt "Work*sp*ace" ;-)
Upps....OS/2 laesst gruessen :)
>Experten-Modul (das mit dem UNIX-Diplom) nicht "UNIX-Experte angewählt" hast.
>"Normale" Anwender sollen von diesen Innereien verschont bleiben.
Habe ich mir fasst gedacht :)
Was anderes:
Ich habe PPP und GateKeeper zum Laufen bekommen (kann nun WWW via
schoene NeXT machen...), aber:
Was muss ich wo eintragen (wenn ich eine _dynamische_ PPP-Adresse habe)
damit alles was ich in MAIL an *aussenstehende Systeme* schreibe an
POP3.VOSSNET.DE geroutet wird?
Irgendwie war mir das klar, das das mit dem resolv.config nicht
erschlagen wird :(
NewsGrazer meckert auch an was herum ... von wegen NNS usw.. also: Wenn
ich diesen Schritt von Euch noch erklaert haben koennte, damit ich
- wwww
- pop3
- news
via NeXT abwickeln kann
...dann sind wir ein gutes Stueck weiter um OS/2 als NebenOS laufen zu
lassen. (Berkley)Unix-Buch werde ich mir Montag ausser Buchhandlung
holen, da von NeXT ja schoen wenig mitgeliefert wurde :(((
Welche Buecher koennt ihr empfehlen!
P.S.: NeXTToYou habe ich bestellt....finde ich klasse, das es soetwas
gibt!
--
Jogi
22143 Hamburg
SOON: NeXTMail + PGP welcome! Also 64x64 picture for NeXTMail :)
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Mozilla =?iso-8859-1?Q?=FCbersetzen??=
Date: 4 Apr 1998 21:48:53 GMT
Organization: Rainer at home
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Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com> wrote:
> Bedeutet das NEXTSTEP.mk in den Mozilla Quellen das, was ich hoffe? Wenn
Scheint so. Allerdings für X-Window. Der Portierungsaufwand dürfte nicht
uneheblich sein.
> ja, hat es schon jemand erfolgreich übersetzt und das Binary irgendwo
> abgelegt?
Immer mal wieder einen Blick auf ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/mozilla-crypto/
werfen, da ist SSLeay gleich eingebaut :-)
Gruß,
Rainer
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From: "Marcus Siemens" <ms-design@email.msn.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: 68030 Cube
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:27:46 +0200
Organization: Customer of UUNET Germany; Info: info@de.uu.net
Message-ID: <6g5ckn$ho9$2@goof.de.uu.net>
Xcanpos: shelf.01/199804051801!0015047375
Ich suche noch einen ganz alten 68030 NeXT Cube, möglichst mit Monitor,
sonst taugt das ja nicht viel, bitte Angebote an:
Marcus Siemens
+49-171-4971404
ms-design@msn.com
From: "Marcus Siemens" <ms-design@email.msn.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Singular Solutions A/D 64x Analog to Digital and Digital Format Convertor
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:28:04 +0200
Organization: Customer of UUNET Germany; Info: info@de.uu.net
Message-ID: <6g5cko$ho9$3@goof.de.uu.net>
Weiß irgendjemand was über diesen Apparat, oder verkauft vielleicht jemand
denselbigen? Für weitere Informationen und/oder Angebote wäre ich dankbar.
Marcus Siemens
+49-171-4971404
ms-design@msn.com
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: NE2000 Netzkarten Treiber
Date: 4 Apr 1998 15:54:40 GMT
Organization: InterNetNews at News.BelWue.DE (Stuttgart, Germany)
Message-ID: <6g5l40$6ul$1@news.BelWue.DE>
References: <6qT5i8EGGiB@cat.ping.de> <6fdhad$jf6@alice.turbocat.de> <6fitge$fb0$1@news.seicom.net> <6fjk1l$2ja@alice.turbocat.de>
David Wetzel (dave@turbocat.de) wrote:
: BTW: Wie soll denn eine PCI-Karte kompatibel zu einer ISA-Karte sein?
: So kompatibel wie das Auto zum Fahrrad? Man wird nass, und es dauert
: laenger, man kommt auch an?
Wieso ? Seit wann wird man im Auto nass ???
Gregor
From: Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Usergroup
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 10:08:09 -0100
Organization: Voss Net GmbH
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Moin!
On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:47:27 +0000, Julius Bahr wrote:
>Rhapsody scheint ja echt was tolles zu werden.
>Ich wŸrde mich gerne Mal mit dem System besser vertraut
>machen. Kennt ihr eine (Mac) Usergroup in MŸnchen die sich auf
>Rhapsody gestŸrzt hat. Danke fŸr eure Hilfe.
Nun, ich bin zumindest vom Look&Feel schwer enttaeuscht, da APPLE meint
viel zu viel vom "Apple-Design" in Rhapsody aufnehmen zu muessen, da man
"auf die Apple-Kunden Rücksicht nehmen möchte" (so aufm CeBLOED-Stand
ein Mitarbeiter von Apple; sehr unfreundlich übrigens als ich mich als
NeXT-Fan geoutet hatte und mich über das Aussehen der aktuellen
Rhapsody-Version mukiert hatte).
NeXT ist deswegen weltweit so geachtet, weil es (auch IMHO) die
durchdachteste Oberfläche auf einer Unix-Schüssel hat.
NeXT war schon in vielen Dingen dem 'Redmondter Aufkäufer' voraus und
vieles aus NeXT findet man in den aktuellen 'Weiterentwicklungen' von
VMS++ (=NT) wieder. Nur ganz schaffte es der Brillenmann nie das
Lokk&Feel einer NeXT nachzubasteln, denn NeXT ist nach wie vor
UNSCHLAGBAR was die Details auf der WorkSPACE angeht :)
Apple täte gut daran nicht den uraltschrott ihres
überalterten Mülleimersystems auf ein supergutes System zu flanschen,
sondern umgekehrt, die Fehler ihres Systems durch das von NeXT zu
ersetzen.
Was für Entwickler der Kernel ist, ist für Anwender wie mich die
Oberfläche und das durchdachte Arbeiten mit NeXT.
Ich hoffe Steve denkt an NeXTler und lä˜t Schalterchens ins System
einbauen, damit ich nicht eine Apple- sondern eine NeXT-Oberfläche habe.
--
Jogi
aus Hamburch
From: Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: 1.Mailausgang und 2. IRC
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 10:18:42 -0100
Organization: Voss Net GmbH
Message-ID: <6g7hsf$uqc$1@news.vossnet.de>
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Moin!
1.a Mails
Mitlerweile habe ich begriffen, das ich die Datei
/etc/sendmail.sharedsubsidiary.cf irgendiwe aendern muss, damit meine
Mails von NeXTMail nach draussen gelangen.
Jedoch moechte ich nicht schon wieder einen fatalen Fehler machen,
sondern nur ein wenig mailen können.
Was muss ich an sendmail.sharedsubsidiary.cf also ändern, damit mails
nach draussen zum pop3.vossnet.de geschickt werden?
1.b News
NewsGrazer habe ich installiert, aber sicherlich mu˜ ich da auch wieder
an einer Unix-Datei werkeln, denn Einstellungen von wegen
news.vossnet.de irgendwo eintragen fand ich nicht...es kam erst einmal
ne Fehlermeldung :(
Was ist dort zu beachten, damit man News versenden kann?
2. IRC
Ich dachte das wäre keine Problem IRCII mal eben gemä˜ Anleitung zu
compilieren, aber Pustekuchen....irgendwas fehlte dem guten Stück und
ich sa˜ da ... ohne IRC-Chatter :/
Liegt irgendwo ein IRC-Client als binary für NeXT 3.3/wei˜ rum?
Da ich IRC, MAIL + NEWS als das Wichtigste auf einer Kiste für mich
bezeichne, wäre ich für schnelle Hilfe in beiden Fragen dankbar!
--
Jogi
22143 Hamburg
Fon: 040-6779958 eMail: jogi2@vossnet.de
Fax: 040-6779952
From: buckaroo@blackbox.free.de (Mark Nowiasz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: 1.Mailausgang und 2. IRC
Date: 5 Apr 1998 12:38:29 GMT
Organization: Blackbox - The Dark Site
Message-ID: <slrn6ieuq4.bm3.buckaroo@blackbox.free.de>
References: <6g7hsf$uqc$1@news.vossnet.de>
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
>2. IRC
>
>Ich dachte das wäre keine Problem IRCII mal eben gemä? Anleitung zu
>compilieren, aber Pustekuchen....irgendwas fehlte dem guten Stück und
>ich sa? da ... ohne IRC-Chatter :/
Das Problem ist, daß ircII Posix benutzt. Ich habe irc2.9.2 bei
mir zum compilieren bekommen, allerdings mußte ich die sourcen
zum Teil ändern.
>Liegt irgendwo ein IRC-Client als binary für NeXT 3.3/wei? rum?
Hehe..
- CTCP VERSION request to Buckaroo sent. -
- CTCP VERSION request by Buckaroo -
- CTCP VERSION reply from Buckaroo:
Circe pre-alpha 24(Fri Apr 03 1998) by Mark Nowiasz -
(Mehr dazu in einem seperaten Posting)
Gruß,
Mark
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'---''(_/--' -'\_) IRC: Buckaroo | Voice: +49 177 2190385
From: buckaroo@blackbox.free.de (Mark Nowiasz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comm.chatsystems
Subject: Tester (IRC-Client =?iso-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= NeXTStep) gesucht!
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next
Date: 5 Apr 1998 12:51:24 GMT
Organization: Blackbox - The Dark Site
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Moin.. ich suche Tester für einen neuen IRC-Client für NeXTStep,
der Grund, warum ich das Teil noch nicht bei Peanuts & co
hochgeladen habe, bzw. warum das nicht frei verfügbar ist, ist,
daß ich keine Lust habe, mich zu blamieren :-)
Der Client kann im Gegensatz zu Encircle und irc0.5 (die anderen
NeXTStep-Clients) das Folgende:
- Verbindungen zu beliebig vielen Servern / IRCNetzwerken parallel
- Die Voreinstellungen (Nicks/IRCInfo, etc) sind für jedes IRCNetzwerk
(IRCNet / Effnet usw.) getrennt einstellbar
- Unterstützung von ircII-Textattributen wie bold, inverse, underline
- zusätzlich zu der Oberfläche noch ircII-mäßige /-Kommandos
(z.B. /me tut dies)
- Er funktioniert :-) (Zumindestens im IRCNet/Efnet), ich setze ihn
seit Monaten ein, er ist IMHO komfortabler als ircII
(query-Fenster, channelfenster, usw).
Er ist bei weiterem nicht fertiggestellt, es fehlen die folgenden
Funktionen (die ASAP eingebaut werden):
- dcc
- ignore
- notify
Es ist jedoch vollkommen problemlos möglich, sich damit im IRC
bequem zu unterhalten.
Bevor ich das alles einbaue, möchte ich zumindestens erstmal
wissen, ob die Oberfläche geändert werden soll, bzw. ob noch
zusätzliche Kommandos eingebaut werden sollen.
Wer Lust hat, Circe zu testen, der maile mir bitte.. ich erwarte
allerdings von den Testern, daß sie mir Bugreports und
Anregungen mailen.
Gruß,
Mark
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Date: 05 Apr 1998 16:24:00 +0100
From: tadams@pobox.com (Thomas Adams)
Sender: tom@cat.ping.de (Thomas Adams)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.unix,de.comp.sys.next
Message-ID: <6rIVTUzlGiB@cat.ping.de>
References: <slrn6ibt5j.3ll.p@magnus.factum-data.de>
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<1d6z6l8.ckz57k7oz6lN@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de>
<slrn6id0fc.au.rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de>
Subject: Re: DTP fuer Unix?
On 04 Apr 98, Rainer Sokoll wrote in <slrn6id0fc.au.rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de>:
> Altsys Virtuoso (kommt, AFAIK, von Illustrator), Tailor und noch ein
Tailor für OpenStep gibt es leider seit dem 1.1.98 nicht mehr. Das soll es
irgendwann einmal als recht brauchbare Demo irgendwo gegeben haben. Hat
die noch jemand? Oder eine Bezugsquelle für die anderen PS
Nachbearbeitungsprogramme für OpenStep?
> absolutes High-End-Produkt, dessen Namen ich leider vergessen habe.
> Hersteller ist nach meiner Erinnerung Object Factory.
> Für DTP gibts IMHO keine bessere Plattform als NeXT und Nachfolger.
--
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Singular Solutions A/D 64x Analog to Digital and Digital Format Convertor
Date: 5 Apr 1998 14:07:05 GMT
Organization: STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting, Germany
Message-ID: <6g8369$pjm@mimi.stepman.com>
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Cc: ms-design@email.msn.com
In <6g5cko$ho9$3@goof.de.uu.net> "Marcus Siemens" wrote:
> Weiß irgendjemand was über diesen Apparat, oder verkauft vielleicht jemand
> denselbigen? Für weitere Informationen und/oder Angebote wäre ich dankbar.
Frag' mal bei RCN in Berlin nach, die sind Spezialist in Sachen Audio &
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.
RCN ist unter info@rcn.de bzw. tel. unter 030/8340107 bzw. per fax unter
030/8340108 erreichbar.
Gruß, Gerald
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From: dirk@kalium.physik.tu-berlin.de (Dirk Schwarzhans)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Mozilla übersetzen?
Date: 5 Apr 1998 17:11:07 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6g8dvb$lvf$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <6rEPJPfGGiB@cat.ping.de>
In-Reply-To: <6rEPJPfGGiB@cat.ping.de>
Hallo,
On 04/04/98, Thomas Adams wrote:
>Bedeutet das NEXTSTEP.mk in den Mozilla Quellen das, was ich hoffe?
> Wenn ja, hat es schon jemand erfolgreich übersetzt und das Binary
> irgendwo abgelegt?
War das nicht ein Aprilscherz, was ich befuerchte?
Dirk
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From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Mozilla =?iso-8859-1?Q?=FCbersetzen??=
Date: 5 Apr 1998 18:47:19 GMT
Organization: Rainer at home
Message-ID: <slrn6ifkdn.a5e.rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <6rEPJPfGGiB@cat.ping.de> <6g8dvb$lvf$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Dirk Schwarzhans <dirk@kalium.physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> War das nicht ein Aprilscherz, was ich befuerchte?
NEIN!!!
Ich kann ja nichts dafür, daß Netscape die Sourcen zum 31. März freigibt.
Gruß,
Rainer
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From: pylyebkc@hello.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: It is true !!
Date: 6 Apr 1998 04:39:29 GMT
Organization: World of Free
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Usergroup
Date: 7 Apr 1998 16:39:44 GMT
Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center
Message-ID: <6gdksg$2lr@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
> Nun, ich bin zumindest vom Look&Feel schwer enttaeuscht, da APPLE meint
> viel zu viel vom "Apple-Design" in Rhapsody aufnehmen zu muessen, da man
> "auf die Apple-Kunden Rücksicht nehmen möchte" (so aufm CeBLOED-Stand
> ein Mitarbeiter von Apple; sehr unfreundlich übrigens als ich mich als
> NeXT-Fan geoutet hatte und mich über das Aussehen der aktuellen
> Rhapsody-Version mukiert hatte).
Tja, auf diese Frage reagieren die Jungs allergisch... 8-|
Selbst NeXT in seinen späten (Fortune 500-)Tagen, nach WindowsNT schielend,
mochte es gar nicht, wenn man sie auf die Qualität ihrer GUI ansprach.
Eine hervorragende GUI zu haben kann schon eine Last sein... :-{
Tschau
Uli
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From: Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Newbie-Fragen :-(
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:31:04 -0100
Organization: Voss Net GmbH
Message-ID: <6ge1t4$j35$1@news.vossnet.de>
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Hi....
Ich bekam eine eMail in der ich auf NeXTToYou Ausgabe sowieso
hingewiesen wurde, denn meine "Reimport-Newbie"-Fragen scheinen nicht
allen zu gefallen :(((
Sorry...
Ich lese eigentlich jeden Fetzen den ich bekomme, aber IMHO fehlt eine
MINI-FAQ um NeXT-Newbies (ohne das ganze Geraffel von peanuts) schnell
ans Netz zu bekommen.
Ich habe zwar WWW-Kontakt, also meine Resolv-Sachen sind, wie auch PPP
ok, nur traue ich mich nach mehreren Installationen eben nicht mehr so
recht die sendmail-Dateien zu "maltretieren" und wollte eben nur wissen,
wie ich sendmail dazu ueberreden kann
***
Mails, die nicht intern sind nach smtp.vossnet.de zu schicken /
von pop3.vossnet.de zu empfangen und NEWS eben via NewsGrazer an/von
news.vossnet.de.
***
Alles andere erfahre ich - wenn oftmals auch unter Neuinstallation -
durch Try&Error ... :) ... und lesen [Literaturempfehlungen nehme ich
gerne an!].
Ich werde Euch also nicht mehr mit Newbiefragen nerven, wenn ich
irgendwo ein FAQ finde, welches mir bei o.g. hilft, jedoch auf Nexttoyou
zu verweisen und da steht nix (und ne Suchmaschine ist Fehlanzeige) ist
IMHO genauso daemlich wie meine Newbie-Fragen, oder?
Trotzdem....lustige Gruesse
---
Jogi
22143 Hamburg
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Lighthouse Distiller 2.0 ??
Date: 8 Apr 1998 08:49:04 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6gfdm0$gss63@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <armin-ya023180000704980057280001@news.messe.de> <6gdive$abv$1@news.seicom.net> <6gdk95$3hf$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
Christian Neuss (neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam) wrote:
: [...]
: >Ansonsten benutzt ich eh meinen eigenen PS->PDF Konverter 'PStill'.
: >
In dieses Horn moechte ich auch noch ein bischen stossen; und Lighthouse
- genauer Sun - traue ich erst wieder ueber den Weg, wenn sie die,
teils selbst nur gekauften, Apps wieder freigeben und Lizenzen dafuer
erteilen, besser noch eine Rhapsody-Konvertierung geloben und im bisherigen
Preisrahmen bleiben.
Mindestens solange gilt:
:
: PStill ist guuuuuuuut...
(genau) und noch richtiger:
Frank ist guuuuuuuut ...
und steht auch zur Verfuegung und macht weiter. Oder wird er auch
aufgekauft :-)?
:
: .. und abgestuerzt ist es mir auch noch nicht. Nicht nur zum Web-Publishing
: geeignet, sondern auch nuetzlich, wenn man grosse PS Dokumente platzsparend
: aufbewahren will - einfach als komprimierendes PDF speichern.
Sag' ich ja, Frank ist guuuuuuuut ...
Gruss,
Ruediger
--
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Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
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D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: 1.Mailausgang und 2. IRC
Date: 7 Apr 1998 23:50:15 GMT
Organization: Voss Net GmbH
Message-ID: <6gee3n$7vk$1@news.vossnet.de>
References: <Er0zrF.1z9@heller.altoetting-online.de>
Nabend :)
In article <Er0zrF.1z9@heller.altoetting-online.de>
heller@altoetting-online.de writes:
> Du musst nur in deinem /etc/hosts die IP deines mailhosts (also wohl
> pop3.vossnet.de) angeben:
> <ip von pop3.vossnet.de> mailhost pop3.vossnet.de
> und dann als root in netinfo laden:
> niload hosts . < /etc/hosts
Hmmm. das kenne ich von OS/2, da heisst das Ding auch so.
Nachdem ich im Dateisystem auf "Unix-Experte" geschaltet habe, gehen mir
auch ein paar Lampen auf....
Zwar noch nicht alles sonnenklar, aber einiges :)
Danke fuer die Hilfe!
> Doch, in den Preferences von Newsgrazer!
Ja, so langsam...
---
Jogi
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Mozilla =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=FCbersetzen=3F?=
Date: 7 Apr 1998 05:27:05 GMT
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <6gcdf9$2ql$1@marsu.navigator.de>
References: <6rEPJPfGGiB@cat.ping.de> <6rEPJPfGGiB@cat.ping.de>
<6g8dvb$lvf$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <6rMYcVtGGiB@cat.ping.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Cc: tadams@pobox.com
In <6rMYcVtGGiB@cat.ping.de> Thomas Adams wrote:
> On 05 Apr 98, Dirk Schwarzhans wrote in
<6g8dvb$lvf$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>:
>
> > War das nicht ein Aprilscherz, was ich befuerchte?
>
> Die Sourcen enthalten dieses Makefile wirklich, oder was meinst Du mit
> Aprilscherz? Sieht auch "normal" aus, soweit ich das beurteilen kann.
Ich hab mal versucht, das Zeug zu übersetzen (hab noch eine Lizenz von
co-Xist), aber auch mit diesem Makefile ist es unerhört, wie viel Handarbeit
dazu nötig ist, weil alles auf POSIX ausgerichtet ist, und wie es OPENSTEP
mit POSIX hält, ist hinlänglich bekannt.
Ist jemand weiter gekommen (= ich hab entnervt aufgegeben) ?
--
Navigator Markus Wenzel - IT Consulting
http://www.navigator.de/
From: news@net2phone.com (Net2phone Information)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Warning about the FCC and Internet Taxes
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 0:35:21 -0500
Organization: NET2PHONE
Message-ID: <830892010121@net2phone.com>
This is not spam in the strictest sense of the definition, it's about the
FCC and more taxes that are looming ahead. The method of delivery is
spam-like and for that we apologize.
We apologize for bothering you, but if we don't warn you right now, you
might not be able to communicate over the net as freely as you do now.
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by imposing new universal service fees which are likely to be passed on to
you in the form of higher Internet-service charges.
If these taxes are imposed, you will have to pay more every time you use
the Internet.
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company, wants to make sure this does not happen. We are calling for a
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We are sponsoring free phone calls to lobby your representative,
senator or the FCC against this most serious infraction against
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We have always viewed the Internet as a fantastic medium to communicate
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this right away from you.
Please make that free call right now before you lose your right to
unfettered Internet access.
Thank you,
IDT/Net2Phone Management
http://www.net2phone.com
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: 1.Mailausgang und 2. IRC
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:14:03 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
Sender: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller)
Message-ID: <Er0zrF.1z9@heller.altoetting-online.de>
References: <6g7hsf$uqc$1@news.vossnet.de>
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In article <6g7hsf$uqc$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de>
writes:
> Moin!
>
> 1.a Mails
>
> Mitlerweile habe ich begriffen, das ich die Datei
> /etc/sendmail.sharedsubsidiary.cf irgendiwe aendern muss, damit meine
> Mails von NeXTMail nach draussen gelangen.
>
> Jedoch moechte ich nicht schon wieder einen fatalen Fehler machen,
> sondern nur ein wenig mailen k nnen.
>
> Was muss ich an sendmail.sharedsubsidiary.cf also ndern, damit mails
> nach draussen zum pop3.vossnet.de geschickt werden?
Garnichts.
Du musst nur in deinem /etc/hosts die IP deines mailhosts (also wohl
pop3.vossnet.de) angeben:
<ip von pop3.vossnet.de> mailhost pop3.vossnet.de
und dann als root in netinfo laden:
niload hosts . < /etc/hosts
oder halt per NetInfoManager.app die IP von pop3.vossnet.de mit dem namen
mailhost assoziieren. reboot. dann sollte es gehen!
>
>
> 1.b News
>
> NewsGrazer habe ich installiert, aber sicherlich mu ich da auch wieder
> an einer Unix-Datei werkeln, denn Einstellungen von wegen
> news.vossnet.de irgendwo eintragen fand ich nicht...es kam erst einmal
> ne Fehlermeldung :(
Doch, in den Preferences von Newsgrazer!
--
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Phone: +49-8671-881665 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
heller@altoetting-online.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7
FAX: +49-8671-881665 ------------------------------------------------
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Usergroup
Date: 8 Apr 1998 08:33:46 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6gfcpa$gss62@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6fgvhu$bkc$1@euler.space.net> <6g7h8v$u2a$1@news.vossnet.de> <6gdksg$2lr@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
Uli Zappe (uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de) wrote:
: Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
: > Nun, ich bin zumindest vom Look&Feel schwer enttaeuscht, da APPLE meint
: > viel zu viel vom "Apple-Design" in Rhapsody aufnehmen zu muessen, da man
: > "auf die Apple-Kunden Rücksicht nehmen möchte" (so aufm CeBLOED-Stand
: > ein Mitarbeiter von Apple; sehr unfreundlich übrigens als ich mich als
: > NeXT-Fan geoutet hatte und mich über das Aussehen der aktuellen
: > Rhapsody-Version mukiert hatte).
:
: Tja, auf diese Frage reagieren die Jungs allergisch... 8-|
:
: Selbst NeXT in seinen späten (Fortune 500-)Tagen, nach WindowsNT schielend,
: mochte es gar nicht, wenn man sie auf die Qualität ihrer GUI ansprach.
:
: Eine hervorragende GUI zu haben kann schon eine Last sein... :-{
:
:
: Tschau
: Uli
Gut gebruellt Loewen!
Wenn's doch nur helfen wuerde:
Sun ist ganz geblendet von Java, Apple von seinem Platinum-Look.
Man koennte auch sagen, Sun ist Java-blind, Apple MacOs-blind :-( :-).
Gruss,
Ruediger
--
H.-R. Oberhage
Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Usergroup
Date: 8 Apr 1998 13:08:58 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6gfsta$eoc6@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6fgvhu$bkc$1@euler.space.net> <6g7h8v$u2a$1@news.vossnet.de> <1d7633l.dzcvajpry6cmN@surfk185.koeln.netsurf.de>
Thomas Klaassen (thomas.klaassen@koeln.netsurf.de) wrote:
: [...]
: Soweit ich das verstanden habe, war die RDR1 nur für Programmentwickler
: gedacht, damit diese mit der Entwicklung von Software oder Portierung
: von OS/NS zu Rhapsody beginnen können. Von einer entgültigen Oberfläche
: war nirgendwo die Rede.
Leider doch, auf dem CeBIT ('98) Stand der Firma Apple zum Thema
Rhapsody. Offizielle (sinngemaesse) Aussage dort:
Wir koennen doch den vielen, vielen Mac-Benutzern kein anderes
Design zumuten [Anm. des Autors: (den NS/OS-Benutzern ein schlechteres,
weil 'Platinum-Look' und MacOS-like offensichtlich schon, was machen
schon diese 'paar Idioten aus].
Umstellung/Appearance-Manager: Ja, teilweise ...
Endgueltig kann natuerlich nur das 'Produkt' sein, aber das wird sich
kaum in den letzten 2 Monaten aeusserlich so aendern [meine Prognose],
so dass wir mit den jetzigen Apple-Planungen leben muessen.
Sieht man sich den Preissprung beim Apple-Support $250->$500 bei meiner
Meinung nach unerheblichen (eher fragwuerdigen) Aenderungen an, ahnt
man, was einem bevorsteht ...
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
--
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Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
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D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: marsu@cs.tu-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann)
Newsgroups: bln.archiv,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Neu auf dem Berliner NeXT-Archiv (07-Apr-98)
Date: 7 Apr 1998 15:05:46 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6gdfca$hpc$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
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To: beng@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de
Neu auf dem NeXT-FTP-Archiv der BeNG (ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT):
Die neuesten READMEs gibts auch per NeXTMail. Subscribe:
mailto: majordomo@prz.tu-berlin.de mit Body: subscribe next_readmes
3483727 Mar 12 02:17 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/languages/perl-5.004_04.2-PI.tar.gz
2361 Mar 12 02:17 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/languages/perl-5.004_04.2.README
453689 Mar 12 02:18 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/GMP-2.0.2-1-PI.tar.gz
1786 Mar 12 02:18 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/GMP-2.0.2.1.README
4390 Mar 19 13:37 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/Perl-5.004_04-1.README
3570492 Mar 19 14:00 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/Perl-5.004_04.1-PI-bd.tar.gz
82779 Mar 6 08:58 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/RSAref-2.0.0.1-PI-b.tar.gz
1558 Mar 6 08:57 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/RSAref-2.0.0.1.README
1595949 Mar 10 15:12 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/SSLeay-0.8.1.1-PI-b.tar.gz
2657 Mar 10 14:47 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/SSLeay-0.8.1.1.README
148233 Mar 27 09:55 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/TCPWrap-7.6.0.2-PI.b.tar.gz
2584 Mar 27 09:55 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/TCPWrap-7.6.0.2.README
141355 Mar 12 02:18 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/Zlib-1.1.1.1-PI.tar.gz
1949 Mar 12 02:18 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/Zlib-1.1.1.1.README
8733 Mar 31 06:27 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/kits/MiscTableScroll.138.s.README
331082 Mar 31 06:29 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/kits/MiscTableScroll.138.s.gnutar.gz
7682 Apr 1 11:25 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/unix/ctxt-util.1.0.s.tar.gz
2120 Apr 1 11:26 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/unix/ctxt-util.README
187598 Mar 10 19:19 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/games/apps/NSMine-1.5-PI.tar.gz
185 Mar 10 19:19 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/games/apps/NSMine-1.5.README
360131 Mar 12 01:42 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/images/icons/ppai_Icon_22.tar.gz
2003459 Mar 15 07:15 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/comm/apps/GateKeeper.3.0.Beta.4.NI.b.tar.gz
5489 Mar 15 06:53 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/comm/apps/GateKeeper.3.0.Beta.4.README
1031362 Mar 15 07:00 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/comm/apps/GateKeeper.3.0.Beta.4.s.tar.gz
1445400 Mar 18 08:50 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/comm/apps/commercial/OlafAM.1.0.6.NIHS.b.tar.gz
4494 Mar 18 08:50 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/comm/apps/commercial/OlafAM.1.0.6.README
5450403 Apr 1 03:45 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/apps/SambaManager.1.0.NIHS.b.tar.gz
1244412 Apr 1 03:52 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/apps/SambaManager.1.0.NIHS.s.tar.gz
3521 Apr 1 03:52 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/apps/SambaManager.README
564270 Mar 12 22:56 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/ssh-1.2.22.1-RSAref-PI-b.tar.gz
1553804 Apr 1 14:10 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/news/apps/commercial/RadicalNews.0.9.4.NIHS.b.tar.gz
1404 Mar 30 20:04 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/news/apps/commercial/RadicalNews.0.9.4.README
1620720 Apr 1 18:01 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/news/apps/commercial/RadicalNewsJ.0.9.4.NIHS.b.tar.gz
863221 Mar 18 14:25 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/unix/Squid.1.1.21.NIHS.b.tar.gz
1095 Mar 18 14:22 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/unix/Squid.1.1.21.README
2478254 Mar 31 08:15 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/productivity/spreadsheet/commercial/Mesa-3b2-PI-b.tar.gz
72004 Mar 13 23:00 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/science/chemistry/TitrationLab.0.1a.I.b.tar.gz
1059 Mar 15 13:57 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/science/chemistry/TitrationLab.0.1a.README
21898 Feb 28 08:09 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/preferences/InterfaceStyle.1.0.PI.b.tar.gz
2567 Feb 28 08:09 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/preferences/InterfaceStyle.1.0.README
1908594 Mar 31 21:32 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/services/LighthouseDistiller-2.0.pkg.tar.gz
999 Mar 31 21:32 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/services/READ_ME_LighthouseDistiller_2_0.rtfd.tar.gz
3413 Apr 1 11:27 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/apps/Fiend.1.4.1.README
364346 Apr 1 11:25 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/apps/Fiend.1.4.1.s.tar.gz
--
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marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail)
>> Why should I tidy my room, when the whole world is in a mess ??? <<
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Lighthouse Distiller 2.0 ??
Date: 7 Apr 1998 16:07:10 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
Message-ID: <6gdive$abv$1@news.seicom.net>
References: <armin-ya023180000704980057280001@news.messe.de>
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Cc: armin@devicen.de
In <armin-ya023180000704980057280001@news.messe.de> Armin Retzko wrote:
> Leider scheint der "LighthouseDistiller" unter meinen
> NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Konfigurationen nicht zu laufen. Sowohl unter NeXTSTEP
> 3.0 als auch OPENSTEP 4.2 auf Moto stuertz das Programm, aus dem man in
> eine PDF-Datei drucken will, beim "Druckvorgang" ab.
>
> Ich wuerde daher gern erfahren, ob der z.B. unter NeXSTEP 3.3 funktioniert.
Keine Ahnung, ich denke ich werde mir das Teil aber auch mal anschauen... man
muss ja wissen was das Ding so kann. :-)
Ansonsten benutzt ich eh meinen eigenen PS->PDF Konverter 'PStill'. (so und
jetzt genug der Eigenwerbung...)
--
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* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
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* butterfly net at my door..."
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.unix,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: DTP fuer Unix?
Date: 7 Apr 1998 16:07:32 GMT
Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center
Message-ID: <6gdj04$2lr@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <slrn6ibt5j.3ll.p@magnus.factum-data.de> <6g5g72$4u5@delos.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <1d6z6l8.ckz57k7oz6lN@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> <slrn6id0fc.au.rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de> <6rIVTUzlGiB@cat.ping.de>
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tadams@pobox.com (Thomas Adams) wrote:
> Tailor für OpenStep gibt es leider seit dem 1.1.98 nicht mehr.
Oops, woher hast Du das denn? Ist das amtlich?
Tschau
Uli
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Lighthouse Distiller 2.0 ??
Date: 7 Apr 1998 16:29:25 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6gdk95$3hf$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <armin-ya023180000704980057280001@news.messe.de> <6gdive$abv$1@news.seicom.net>
frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote:
>In <armin-ya023180000704980057280001@news.messe.de> Armin Retzko wrote:
>> Leider scheint der "LighthouseDistiller" unter meinen
>> NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Konfigurationen nicht zu laufen. Sowohl unter NeXTSTEP
>> 3.0 als auch OPENSTEP 4.2 auf Moto stuertz das Programm, aus dem man in
>> eine PDF-Datei drucken will, beim "Druckvorgang" ab.
>>
>> Ich wuerde daher gern erfahren, ob der z.B. unter NeXSTEP 3.3
funktioniert.
>
>Keine Ahnung, ich denke ich werde mir das Teil aber auch mal anschauen...
man
>muss ja wissen was das Ding so kann. :-)
>
>Ansonsten benutzt ich eh meinen eigenen PS->PDF Konverter 'PStill'.
PStill ist guuuuuuuut...
.. und abgestuerzt ist es mir auch noch nicht. Nicht nur zum Web-Publishing
geeignet, sondern auch nuetzlich, wenn man grosse PS Dokumente platzsparend
aufbewahren will - einfach als komprimierendes PDF speichern.
Gruesse, Chris
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From: thomas.klaassen@koeln.netsurf.de (Thomas Klaassen)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:54:39 +0200
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
> Nun, ich bin zumindest vom Look&Feel schwer enttaeuscht, da APPLE meint
> viel zu viel vom "Apple-Design" in Rhapsody aufnehmen zu muessen, da man
> "auf die Apple-Kunden Rücksicht nehmen möchte" (so aufm CeBLOED-Stand
> ein Mitarbeiter von Apple; sehr unfreundlich übrigens als ich mich als
> NeXT-Fan geoutet hatte und mich über das Aussehen der aktuellen
> Rhapsody-Version mukiert hatte).
Soweit ich das verstanden habe, war die RDR1 nur für Programmentwickler
gedacht, damit diese mit der Entwicklung von Software oder Portierung
von OS/NS zu Rhapsody beginnen können. Von einer entgültigen Oberfläche
war nirgendwo die Rede.
Gruß, Thomas
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Lighthouse Distiller 2.0 ??
Date: 8 Apr 1998 12:02:37 GMT
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In <6gfdm0$gss63@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> H.-R. Oberhage wrote:
> (genau) und noch richtiger:
> Frank ist guuuuuuuut ...
> und steht auch zur Verfuegung und macht weiter. Oder wird er auch
> aufgekauft :-)?
> ...
> : .. und abgestuerzt ist es mir auch noch nicht. Nicht nur zum
Web-Publishing
> : geeignet, sondern auch nuetzlich, wenn man grosse PS Dokumente
platzsparend
> : aufbewahren will - einfach als komprimierendes PDF speichern.
> Sag' ich ja, Frank ist guuuuuuuut ...
Danke, Danke fuer die Blumen :-) Es geht weiter mit PStill und es steht noch
kein Kaeufer vor meiner Tuer *lach*. Eine neue NS Version mit PDFMark Support
wird es dem'next' geben und der Port auf Rhapsody gegen Herbst/Winter - so
Apple die Dinge gebacken bekommt.
--
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* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
* "I have to go now, there are two men in white suits with a giant
* butterfly net at my door..."
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
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Subject: Re: Umfrage fuer meine Diplomarbeit
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:06:57 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
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In <6gbfaq$4up@sulu1.cybernet-ag.net> "Arndt S" wrote:
> Ich fuehre fuer meine Diplomarbeit eine Befragung, zum Thema
> Einkaufen im Internet, durch.
>
> Bitte einfach mal anklicken und den Fragebogen kurz ausfuellen.
> http://members.aol.com/arndts6877/Diplomarbeit/fragebogen.htm
>
> Kein Spam, keine eMail-Adressen werden erfasst, einfach nur Diplomarbeit.
Wer's glaubt. AOL-Adresse und kein Realname.
Richtige Studenten haben einen Uni-account. Also: Finger weg !
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From: ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de (Benjamin Hell)
Subject: Re: Mozilla =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=FCbersetzen=3F?=
Sender: news@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (News Administrator)
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Dirk Schwarzhans <dirk@kalium.physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
: Hallo,
: On 04/04/98, Thomas Adams wrote:
: >Bedeutet das NEXTSTEP.mk in den Mozilla Quellen das, was ich hoffe?
: > Wenn ja, hat es schon jemand erfolgreich übersetzt und das Binary
: > irgendwo abgelegt?
: War das nicht ein Aprilscherz, was ich befuerchte?
Wenn's kein Aprilscherz war, dann handelt es sich wohl
eher um eine X Version die mit Hilfe von CubX oder so
laeuft.
Mal so als Vermutung,
Ben
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From: stolze@paxp01.mipool.uni-jena.de (Knut Stolze)
Newsgroups: de.comp.standards,de.comp.sys.ibm-pc,de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.misc,de.comp.sys.newton,de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.novell,de.comp.text.dtp
Subject: Re: Umfrage fuer meine Diplomarbeit
Date: 8 Apr 1998 17:03:44 GMT
Organization: Friedrich-Schiller-University Jena, Germany
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On Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:06:57 GMT, Thomas F. Unke wrote:
> In <6gbfaq$4up@sulu1.cybernet-ag.net> "Arndt S" wrote:
> > Ich fuehre fuer meine Diplomarbeit eine Befragung, zum Thema
> > Einkaufen im Internet, durch.
> >
> > Bitte einfach mal anklicken und den Fragebogen kurz ausfuellen.
> > http://members.aol.com/arndts6877/Diplomarbeit/fragebogen.htm
> >
> > Kein Spam, keine eMail-Adressen werden erfasst, einfach nur Diplomarbeit.
>
>
> Wer's glaubt. AOL-Adresse und kein Realname.
>
> Richtige Studenten haben einen Uni-account. Also: Finger weg !
Zudem erwarte ich eigentlich, dass man da auch noch seine eigenen Gedanken
und Anregungen preisgeben kann. Also das ist mehr als verdaechtig.
Sicher, dass das die DIPLOM-Arbeit wird und nicht vielleicht erst was fuer
das Vordiplom oder das Abitur ?
ciao, Knut
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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:14:05 +0100
From: Jan Ulrich Hasecke <juh@pironet.de>
Subject: Re: DTP fuer Unix?
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On 5 Apr 1998, Thomas Adams wrote:
> > absolutes High-End-Produkt, dessen Namen ich leider vergessen habe.
> > Hersteller ist nach meiner Erinnerung Object Factory.
> > Für DTP gibts IMHO keine bessere Plattform als NeXT und Nachfolger.
> --
Ich benutze OneVision, mit dem sich PS und PDF komplett nacheditieren
läßt.
Die Leute sitzen in Regensburg, Vertriebspartner und Infos findet man
unter: http://www.onevision.de
Ciao!
---Jan Ulrich Hasecke------------------------
Das GenerationenProjekt. Ein halbes Jahrhundert in HYPERTEXT
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Weitere literarische Texte sind jederzeit willkommen!
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From: uzs62s@uni-bonn.de (Axel "Mikesch" Katerbau)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: RDBMS - OO Mapping fuer Java a la EOF
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:27:50 +0200
Organization: Uni Bonn
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Dirk Theisen <theisen@akaMail.com> wrote:
> Sieh' Dir mal "Java Blend" auf dem javasoft-Server an.
> Vielleicht ist ja das, was Du suchst...
Das ist allerdings noch nicht zu haben. Im Moment gibt's bei Sun im
wesentlichen nur ein whitepaper.
Gruß
Axel
Date: 06 Apr 1998 00:02:00 +0100
From: tadams@pobox.com (Thomas Adams)
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Subject: Re: Mozilla übersetzen?
On 05 Apr 98, Dirk Schwarzhans wrote in <6g8dvb$lvf$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>:
> War das nicht ein Aprilscherz, was ich befuerchte?
Die Sourcen enthalten dieses Makefile wirklich, oder was meinst Du mit
Aprilscherz? Sieht auch "normal" aus, soweit ich das beurteilen kann.
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From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: RDBMS - OO Mapping fuer Java a la EOF
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:29:16 +0100
Organization: University of Bonn, Germany
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Hi!
Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at> wrote:
> Kennt jemand von euch ein Java Framework, mit dem sich eine
> RDBMS - OO Mapping aehnlich wie mit EOF erreichen laesst.
Sieh' Dir mal "Java Blend" auf dem javasoft-Server an.
Vielleicht ist ja das, was Du suchst...
Gruß
Dirk
--
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From: mwrobel@gwdg.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Schwarze HW + NS 3.3 + IBM DCAS 4.3GB
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 10:28:43 +0200
Organization: Insitut für Organische Chemie, Univ. Goettingen
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Ich versuche schon seit Tagen relativ erfolglos NS 3.3 auf einer IBM
DCAS 4.3GB zu installieren.
1. Versuch
Irgendwo habe ich gelesen, dass NS 3.3 automatisch mindestens 2
moeglichst grosse Partitionen bei der Installation anlegt. Pustekuchen!
Nach dem booten ueber Diskette und CD-ROM waren bei der Auswahl der
Pakete angeblich nur 38MB auf der Platte verfuegbar.
2. Versuch
Booten mit der alten Platte und IBM DCAS mit ID1. Mit disk formatiert.
Laut Bildschirmausgabe wurden 3 Partitionen mit jeweils 1.445MB
angelegt. Die Partitionen hatten aber nach dem mounten im Workspace
Manager nur 1.17GB. Weiterhin zeigte Disk 3600upm. Beim Aufruf von
BuildDisk waren angeblich wieder nur 38MB Kapazitaet vorhanden.
3. Versuch
Erstellung eines Eintrags in /etc/disktab fuer die Platte: diesmal mit
richtiger Umdrehungszahl und erstmal zwei Partitionen a 2GB. Die
Eintragungen werden allerdings beim Aufruf von disk (auch mit Option -t)
ignoriert. Es wird formatiert wie unter 2. Versuch.
Was mache ich nur falsch? Bin fuer alle Anregungen dankbar.
Matthias
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From: Harry Huettinger <harald.huettinger@stud.uni-regensburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Mozilla =?iso-8859-1?Q?=FCbersetzen=3F?=
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:26:18 +0100
Organization: University of Regensburg, Germany
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Schon mal hier < http://www.of.org/mozilla/ > reingeschaut?
Harry H.
Thomas Adams wrote:
> =
> Bedeutet das NEXTSTEP.mk in den Mozilla Quellen das, was ich hoffe? Wen=
n
> ja, hat es schon jemand erfolgreich =FCbersetzt und das Binary irgendwo=
> abgelegt?
> --
> key id 0x1edf6259 at the usual places http://pobox.com/~tad=
ams/
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Schwarze HW + NS 3.3 + IBM DCAS 4.3GB
Date: 6 Apr 1998 10:43:24 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
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References: <3528923B.FD6CFFE4@gwdg.de>
mwrobel@gwdg.de wrote:
: Ich versuche schon seit Tagen relativ erfolglos NS 3.3 auf einer IBM
: DCAS 4.3GB zu installieren.
:
: 1. Versuch
: [...]
: angeblich nur 38MB auf der Platte verfuegbar.
:
: 2. Versuch
: [...]
:
: 3. Versuch
: [...]
:
: Was mache ich nur falsch? Bin fuer alle Anregungen dankbar.
Gar nichts, leider.
Das ist 'ne Macke vom BuildDisk (registrierte Groesse = wahre
Groesse modulo 4GB (oder sogar 2GB?)).
Wenn man die Disk nicht 'clonen' kann hilft folgendes Vorgehen.
Einrichten so, dass man die gewuenschte root-Partition-Groesse
bekommt (ich will da immer 2GB, dazu muss das rc.boot modifiziert
werden, Normalfall drei gleichgrosse Partitions a ca. 1.33 GB).
Dann beim Booten (vor dem weiteren Installieren) in den Single-User
Modus booten ('-s). /etc/rc ausfuehren lassen (sh /etc/rc).
'me' ein Passwort verpassen (passwd me), /etc/fstab anpassen
(auf jeden Fall den NEXTSTEP_INSTALL-Pfad der CD austragen),
nach /usr/adm gehen (cd /usr/adm) und BuildDisk.custom (leer)
anlegen (touch BuildDisk.custom), dann Reboot (reboot).
Nun sollte bei naechsten mal das Login-Panel kommen. Als User root
(noch ohen Passwort!!!) einloggen, dann in /NextAdmin das Konfigurieren
des System (Configure.app) vornehmen, wenn das nicht vor dem root-
Login erzwungen wird (weiss ich so nicht mehr).
Schliesslich die CD einlegen und die gewuenschten Packages 'von Hand'
aus 'cd_root_dir/Packages' nachinstallieren. Root ein Passwort verpassen
und 'den Rest' an Nachinstallation erledigen - fertig.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: InIS-KS@t-online.de (Frank Knobloch)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Pentium II - Probleme
Date: 8 Apr 1998 16:11:01 GMT
Organization: InIS GmbH
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Hallo,
wir haben hier ein Problem mit der Installation
von OS 4.2 auf der folgenden HW:
PII, 266
128 MB-SDRAM
ASUS P2L97-S
WD 2,x Ultra-Wide
ATI, AGP
Leider laesst sich NT problemlos installieren, aber OS macht mucken
nach dem SCSI-Reset beim booten. Es erkennt die Platte und dann kommt es
zum SCSI-Timeout. Woran kann das liegen?
OS erkennt kein CD-ROM und deshalb laesst sich nichts installieren!
Folgendes haben wir getestet:
Platte ohne CD-ROM
Platt und CD-ROM
CD-ROM ohne Platte
Board getauscht
Platte getauscht
Sowohl Platte, als auch CD-ROM waren terminiert.
Laufen sollte es, da mir ein Fall bekannt ist, wo die gleiche
Konfiguration (mit Aussnahme der Platte, das war dort eine IBM)
ohne irgendein Problem installierbar war.
Für Informationen wäre ich sehr dankbar...
... Frank Knobloch
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Subject: Re: Umfrage fuer meine Diplomarbeit
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:00:07 +0200
Organization: TU München
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Thomas F. Unke wrote:
>
> In <6gbfaq$4up@sulu1.cybernet-ag.net> "Arndt S" wrote:
> > Ich fuehre fuer meine Diplomarbeit eine Befragung, zum Thema
> > Einkaufen im Internet, durch.
> >
> > Bitte einfach mal anklicken und den Fragebogen kurz ausfuellen.
> > http://members.aol.com/arndts6877/Diplomarbeit/fragebogen.htm
> >
> > Kein Spam, keine eMail-Adressen werden erfasst, einfach nur Diplomarbeit.
>
> Wer's glaubt. AOL-Adresse und kein Realname.
>
> Richtige Studenten haben einen Uni-account. Also: Finger weg !
Ach, das muss man, glaube ich, nicht so verbissen sehen.
Auch mit den eigenen Accounts ist das so eine Sache. Selbstver-
staendlich kann bei uns jeder Student seinen eigenen Account
erhalten. Aber er muss sich selbbst drum kuemmern und zumindest
ein klein wenig Aufwand treiben. Das heisst bei uns konkret
entweder Fahrt in die Innenstadt, oder kostenpflichtiger
Account bei der Fachschaft.
Ob dieser Fragebogen nun in diese Newsgruppe gehoert? Die
neuerdings gehaeuft auftretenden Java-Skript-Postings sind jeden-
falls zwei Groessenordnungen laestiger.
Rainer Haessner
rh@linda.org.chemie.tu-muenchen.de
From: Bernd Demian <bdemian@csc-dd.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Emacs
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 12:49:20 +0200
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Hallo,
ich suche fuer den emacs das syntax-highlighting package fuer
objective-c. kann mir da jemand helfen?
Bernd
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
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Subject: Re: Pentium II - Probleme
Date: 9 Apr 1998 12:31:38 GMT
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Frank Knobloch (InIS-KS@t-online.de) wrote:
: [...]
: Für Informationen wäre ich sehr dankbar...
Einen Versuch wert ist folgendes: Wenn die Platte
wirklich 'wide' ist (und das CD-ROM-LW sicher nicht
:-), werden dann die 'oberen 8 Datenleitungen etc.'
vom Bus richtig terminiert? (Bei Adaptec gibt es
Auswahlen wie 'automatisch', 'nur "oben"' etc.)
Falls hierin das Problem liegen sollte, kann ich
allerdings auch nicht erklaeren, warum es mit NT
funktioniert hat. Nur, dass ich eine manuelle
Konfiguration vornehmen musste, als ich 'einmal'
interne (wide) und externe Geraete anschliessen
musste.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Pentium II - Probleme
Date: 9 Apr 1998 12:53:08 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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InIS-KS@t-online.de (Frank Knobloch) wrote:
>wir haben hier ein Problem mit der Installation
>von OS 4.2 auf der folgenden HW:
...
>Leider laesst sich NT problemlos installieren, aber OS macht mucken
>nach dem SCSI-Reset beim booten. Es erkennt die Platte und dann kommt es
>zum SCSI-Timeout. Woran kann das liegen?
OS ist empfindlich gegenueber SCSI Problemen, zB bei der Terminierung.
Achtet darauf, dass der Controller den externen Anschluss terminiert.
Zudem kann es wichtig sein, bei Verwendung von Ultra-SCSI aktive
Terminatoren zu verwenden, nicht die billigen passiven. Es ist auch
manchmal besser, auf beiden Enden des Bus TERMPWR zu versorgen, was
seit SCSI-II erlaubt ist.
Hoffe dies hilft, Chris
--
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// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
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From: jbaier@taig18.hh.schule.de (Joerg Baier)
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Subject: Drucker ,welcher?
Date: 6 Apr 1998 21:30:05 GMT
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Hallo,
Leider muß ich mir einen neuen Drucker für NS 3.3 für Intel anschaffen.
Meine Frage:
welcher der jetzt auf dem Markt angebotenen Drucker (Laser und auch
Tintenstrahl) werden von den Druckertreiber von JetPilot 2.3 unterstützt?
über Hinweise und Tips freut sich
Jörg
Joerg Baier
jbaier@taig18.hh.schule.de
04141/66581
From: Guido.Beneke@desy.de (Guido Beneke)
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Subject: Re: Emacs
Date: 9 Apr 1998 22:07:50 GMT
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(global-font-lock-mode t) schaltet das Syntax Highlighting global ein, u.a.
auch für ObjC. Es gibt noch eine zweite Lösung, um farbigen Text zu
erhalten. Habe ich aber vergessen.
Gruß, Guido
Bernd Demian <bdemian@csc-dd.de> wrote:
>Hallo,
>ich suche fuer den emacs das syntax-highlighting package fuer
>objective-c. kann mir da jemand helfen?
>Bernd
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
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Subject: Re: DTP fuer Unix?
Date: 7 Apr 1998 09:32:41 GMT
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tadams@pobox.com (Thomas Adams) wrote:
>Tailor für OpenStep gibt es leider seit dem 1.1.98 nicht mehr. Das soll es
>irgendwann einmal als recht brauchbare Demo irgendwo gegeben haben. Hat
>die noch jemand? Oder eine Bezugsquelle für die anderen PS
>Nachbearbeitungsprogramme für OpenStep?
ARG!! Tailor ist eines der besten OPENSTEP Programme, die ich kenne. Ich
habe damals einen ganz ordentlichen Betrag fuer diese Software bezahlt,
es aber nie bereut. Falls die Leute einen Rhapsody Port herausbringen:
Kaufen. Excellente Software.
Die Demo fand ich uebrigens kuerzlich noch auf ftp.peak.org. Falls sie
dort nicht mehr sien sollte, ich hab die PKG noch irgendwo liegen.
Gruesse, Chris
--
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
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From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.uunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
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Subject: miro Crystal32S: neue Treibermodi =?ISO-8859-1?Q?verf=FCgbar!?= :)
Date: 10 Apr 1998 11:35:37 GMT
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Prost!
Für alle, die - immer noch - eine miro Crystal32S benutzen:
ich habe mir mal (endlich) die Mühe gemacht und ein paar neue
Bildschirm-Modi 'erstellt':
1152 x 864 RGB:256/8 @ 74+ Hz
1280 x 1024 RGB:256/8 @ 74+ Hz (statt 70 Hz)
1280 x 1024 RGB:555/16 @ 74+ Hz
Ob die Hz-Zahlen wirklich stimmen, kann ich nicht garantieren -
mein Monitor meint z.B. bei der o.g. 1152er , es sind 100HZ.. :) -
aber wer sich schon immer z.B. an den flickerigen 70Hz-Voreinstellungen
gestört hat, sollte damit was anfangen können. Wer's haben will, kann
sich vial email bei mir melden.
Holger
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From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.uunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
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Subject: miro crystal 32S: power saving / APM ?
Date: 10 Apr 1998 11:45:52 GMT
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Hi,
Mein neuer 19" Monitor (übrigens ein *hervorragender* Kompromiß zwischen
17" und 21" - sehr zu empfehlen!) kann DPMS in vielerlei Stufen.
Leider ist es mir bisher nicht gelungen, trotz aller APM Einstellungen
in NS (4.2), BIOS (ASUS P90/TP4) etc. den gwünschten Effekt einer
Monitor-standby-Schaltung hinzubekommen. Nur 'blank screen' reicht
offenbar nicht aus, da noch V/H sync anliegen. Ich möchte, daß nach
x Minuten Inaktivität BackSpace (z.B.) in Aktion tritt und den Monitor
schlafen schickt. Die Grafikkarte (Jahrgang '93-'94) kann m.W. nach
kein DPMS. Weiß jemand, ob und wie das funktioniert? (Uli?)
Holger
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
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Subject: popover.app: Nachrichten werden nicht vom Server =?ISO-8859-1?Q?gel=F6scht?=
Date: 10 Apr 1998 13:06:23 GMT
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Tachjen!
Leider kann ich weder per "List Messages" noch sonstwie in den Prefs die
Mails vom Server mit popover.app löschen.
Woran liegt das bzw. was muß ich machen, damit das klappt?
--
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22143 Hamburg, Germany
eMail: jogi2@vossnet.de (NeXTMail welcome!)
jsi@stardivision.de (StarOffice-Mail welcome!)
*DX-Team since 1988*
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: popover.app: Nachrichten werden nicht vom Server gel?scht
Date: 10 Apr 1998 15:46:06 GMT
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
: Tachjen!
: Leider kann ich weder per "List Messages" noch sonstwie in den Prefs die
: Mails vom Server mit popover.app löschen.
: Woran liegt das bzw. was muß ich machen, damit das klappt?
Evtl. liegt es daran, dass du eine zu alte PopOver Version
benutzst. Die 1.6 (v77) sollte es tun, hoehere Nummern koennen
nicht schaden ;-) Wenn es das war, bitte informiere mich kurz per
Mail.
Axel
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Emacs
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:19:23 GMT
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Cc: Guido.Beneke@desy.de
In <6gjgrm$oog$1@claire.desy.de> Guido Beneke wrote:
> (global-font-lock-mode t) schaltet das Syntax Highlighting global ein, u.a.
> auch für ObjC. Es gibt noch eine zweite Lösung, um farbigen Text zu
> erhalten. Habe ich aber vergessen.
Suche mal nach 'hilit19'
From: Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Newbie-Fragen :-(
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:31:04 -0100
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Hi....
Ich bekam eine eMail in der ich auf NeXTToYou Ausgabe sowieso
hingewiesen wurde, denn meine "Reimport-Newbie"-Fragen scheinen nicht
allen zu gefallen :(((
Sorry...
Ich lese eigentlich jeden Fetzen den ich bekomme, aber IMHO fehlt eine
MINI-FAQ um NeXT-Newbies (ohne das ganze Geraffel von peanuts) schnell
ans Netz zu bekommen.
Ich habe zwar WWW-Kontakt, also meine Resolv-Sachen sind, wie auch PPP
ok, nur traue ich mich nach mehreren Installationen eben nicht mehr so
recht die sendmail-Dateien zu "maltretieren" und wollte eben nur wissen,
wie ich sendmail dazu ueberreden kann
***
Mails, die nicht intern sind nach smtp.vossnet.de zu schicken /
von pop3.vossnet.de zu empfangen und NEWS eben via NewsGrazer an/von
news.vossnet.de.
***
Alles andere erfahre ich - wenn oftmals auch unter Neuinstallation -
durch Try&Error ... :) ... und lesen [Literaturempfehlungen nehme ich
gerne an!].
Ich werde Euch also nicht mehr mit Newbiefragen nerven, wenn ich
irgendwo ein FAQ finde, welches mir bei o.g. hilft, jedoch auf Nexttoyou
zu verweisen und da steht nix (und ne Suchmaschine ist Fehlanzeige) ist
IMHO genauso daemlich wie meine Newbie-Fragen, oder?
Trotzdem....lustige Gruesse
---
Jogi
22143 Hamburg
From: armin@devicen.de (Armin Retzko)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Lighthouse Distiller 2.0 ??
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:48:33 +0200
Organization: DEVICE/N GmbH
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> > Sag' ich ja, Frank ist guuuuuuuut ...
Kann ich nur bestaetigen, siehe auch CAPer, FontConvert, etc...
> Danke, Danke fuer die Blumen :-) Es geht weiter mit PStill und es steht noch
> kein Kaeufer vor meiner Tuer *lach*. Eine neue NS Version mit PDFMark Support
> wird es dem'next' geben und der Port auf Rhapsody gegen Herbst/Winter - so
> Apple die Dinge gebacken bekommt.
>
Klasse...
Aber mich wuerde trotzdem interessieren, ob jemand den LighthouseDistiller
zum laufen und zum "Distillen" ueberedet hat. Wie gesagt, bei mir (NS3.0,
OS4.2 Moto) funktioniert er nicht.
Thanx
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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e-mail at DEVICE/N: armin@devicen.de
From: scholzb@pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.answers,news.answers
Subject: The NeXT-FAQ (Frequently asked questions)
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Date: 11 Apr 1998 00:12:17 GMT
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Summary: Frequently asked questions concerning NeXT related topics.
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The NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FAQ
_________________________________________________________________
THE NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP FAQ
OVERVIEW
* 1 Introduction
* 2 General information
* 3 What is ...
* 4 Miscellaneous information
* 5 Black (NeXT) hardware
* 6 White (Intel) hardware
* 7 Storage
* 8 Printing
* 9 Obsolete but still interesting?
CONTENTS
1 Introduction
1.1 README FIRST!
1.2 About this FAQ
1.3 Submissions
1.4 Availability
1.5 Copyright
1.6 Disclaimer
1.7 Thanks
2 General information
2.1 Information available but not in the written FAQ version
2.2 Where to get answers?
2.3 How may I contact NeXT, Inc.?
2.4 FTP servers
2.5 Software on CD
2.6 What is the current status of NEXTSTEP/OpenStep?
2.7 Will there be a public implementation of OpenStep?
2.8 Are there differences between Openstep for Mach and other
implementations?
2.9 What information is available by NeXT
2.10 What is the correct spelling?
2.11 How do I start an official NeXT User Group?
2.12 Are there differences in the NEXTSTEP implementations?
2.13 What are the names of the ftp sites that have NeXT-related files?
2.14 Additional information sources
2.15 How to get FTP files via e-mail.
2.16 References on Objective C
2.17 How to contact music interested people.
2.18 How to announce upcoming events
2.19 Can I mix different hardware running NEXTSTEP?
2.20 Can I exchange software running on different hardware?
3 What is ...
3.1 NEXTSTEP
3.2 Mach
3.3 OPENSTEP
3.4 Objective-C
3.5 NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Developer
3.6 D'OLE
3.7 PDO --- Portable Distributed Objects
3.8 EOF --- Enterprise Objects Framework
3.9 WebObjects
3.10 Rhapsody
3.11 WWW Browser
3.12 Newsreader
4 Miscellaneous information
4.1 How do I get pictures of people from remote sites to appear in
Mail.app and NewsGrazer?
4.2 How to manipulate and examine default settings
4.3 How do I run NextApps remotely?
4.4 Why does UUCP hangs on outgoing connections after sending the
password, but other communications software do not have a problem
with it?
4.5 How do I access the NeXT's Digital Webster Dictionary from a
program?
4.6 How do I get the arrow keys to work in csh?
4.7 What default affects menu location?
4.8 How to get Gourmet to boot up the Mathematica 2.0 kernel?
4.9 Manipulating the Loginwindow
4.10 How does one set UNIX man pages to be viewed in nroff format with
DL like the standard manual pages in NS2.x?
4.11 Appending a signature and addition headers to your e-mail
4.12 How can I quickly find a file if I don't know its directory?
4.13 Mail.app suddenly stopped working!
4.14 Recycler doesn't work anymore?!
4.15 How to hear sound from CDPlayer.app thought NEXTSTEP system?
4.16 How do I decompress a file with the extension .compressed?
4.17 How do I change the Workspace compression app?
4.18 console: loginwindow: netinfo problem - No such directory.
4.19 Root login not possible on client machine
4.20 How to boot NEXTSTEP from the second (higher SCSI ID) HD?
4.21 How to make swapfile shrink to the normal size?
4.22 Does netinfo work between machines running NEXTSTEP 2.x and 3.x?
4.23 Why does the console user "own" the external disk filesystem?
4.24 How to limit coredump sizes?
4.25 What is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup?
4.26 How can I change the mouse pointer shape and color?
4.27 How do I customize BuildDisk to create a bootable disk of my own
configuration?
4.28 Are there any more dwrites useful for the workspace, ...?
4.29 What is the @LongLink message from gnutar all about?
4.30 What stands the file .place3_0.wmd for?
4.31 How to create transparent icons with IconBuilder
4.32 How to access the MAC format of a mixed DOS/MAC CD-ROM
4.33 Is there a PPP for NEXTSTEP
4.34 NIS and OpenStep
4.35 System overloaded due to swapping
4.36 Swapfile issues
4.37 Garbage collection and Objective-C
4.38 Setting up an anonymous FTP server
5 Black (NeXT) hardware
5.1 What disk drives will work with the NeXT?
5.2 Will a 68030 NeXT Computer run NEXTSTEP 3.3?
5.3 Does a FUJITSU MO (256 MB) works with NeXT original Hardware?
5.4 Can I run my SCSI-2 disks in synchronous mode?
5.5 How do I configure my HP 660 to boot properly?
5.6 What is the procedure for installing a Fujitsu M2263SA/SB SCSI
Disk as the NeXT Boot Disk?
5.7 How to mount a corrupted OD that won't automount?
5.8 What non-NeXT CD Players that work with a NeXT?
5.9 What are some other sources of toner cartridges and trays for the
NeXT laser printer?
5.10 What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with a NeXT?
5.11 What can I do to prevent my NeXT printer from running all the
time?
5.12 What type of microphones will work with the NeXT?
5.13 How do I connect a modem to the NeXT?
5.14 Are there any alternative sources for the SCSI-II to SCSI-I cable
required to attach external SCSI devices to the 040 NeXTs?
5.15 What fax modems will work with the NeXT?
5.16 How may I attach more than two serial ports to the NeXT?
5.17 What is the best and/or cheapest way to connect a NeXT to a thick
Ethernet?
5.18 How can I connect my NeXT to the telephone line and use it like
an answering Machine?
5.19 What color monitors can I use with the Color NeXT machines?
5.20 Where can I get 13W3 to BNC adapters to connect third party color
monitors?
5.21 How may I attach Centronics or 16 bit wide parallel ports to the
NeXT?
5.22 Why does an unused serial port consume cpu?
5.23 How to adjust MegaPixel Display brightness and focus?
5.24 I want to emulate a macintosh, how?
5.25 My NeXT laser printer fails to fully eject the sheet - how to
fix?
5.26 What are the NeXT mouse connections?
5.27 What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
5.28 What is the NeXT SIMM tool?
5.29 Where can I purchase a NeXT machine?
5.30 Where to obtain hardware service?
5.31 What types of NeXT machines were manufactured?
5.32 What can be done about older 030 NeXT cubes that have a fan that
turns in the "wrong" direction?
5.33 Can I connect SONY MPX-111N to my 68030 NeXT Computer?
5.34 Why does the OD continually spin up and spin down?
5.35 How many colors can NeXT machines display?
5.36 Why is my machine so slow when I run the monochrome and
NeXTdimension displays?
5.37 Where to obtain replacement mouse parts?
5.38 Where to obtain extra batteries?
5.39 How to convert a Turbo system to use ADB?
5.40 68030 board in the same NeXTcube as a 68040 board?
5.41 How to expand DSP memory?
5.42 How to boot a NeXT without a monitor?
5.43 Where can I get black spray paint for my NeXT?
5.44 What makes aged NeXT monitors dim?
5.45 How to use two internal hard drives
6 White (Intel) hardware
6.1 What about support for NeXT Computer specific hardware features
such as the DSP?
6.2 Do Multi-Architecture Binaries take a lot of extra disk space?
6.3 How difficult is it to recompile existing NeXT applications over
to NEXTSTEP/Intel?
6.4 When developing programs, are there any portability issues I
should be aware of?
6.5 What is the difference between the NEXTSTEP/Intel User Environment
and Developer Environment?
6.6 If a specific I/O card is not supported by NeXT, can 3rd parties
write drivers for NEXTSTEP/Intel?
6.7 How is NEXTSTEP/Intel installed?
6.8 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on 386 machines?
6.9 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the Cyrix 486SLC?
6.10 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the future Intel Microprocessors in
the x86 family?
6.11 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on portable computers?
6.12 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel be able to run MS-DOS and Windows programs?
6.13 How will my DOS and Windows applications perform under
NEXTSTEP/Intel?
6.14 Is the window I use to run Microsoft Windows applications
resizable?
6.15 Will this DOS/Windows compatibility system allow me to run
several DOS programs at once?
6.16 Can I cut and paste between DOS/Windows sessions and NEXTSTEP
applications?
6.17 Can I use both DOS and NEXTSTEP/Intel partitions on the same hard
disk?
6.18 Can NEXTSTEP/Intel read, write, and format DOS and Mac floppies?
6.19 NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.1, DOS, Linux/NT multi-boot system?
6.20 NeXTSTEP on INTEL, KEYBOARD-ERROR ...
6.21 NS 3.2 Tseng ET4000 Video Driver doesn't work.
6.22 Accessing ROM monitor on Intel-System, how?
6.23 Adaptec 2940 Fast and Sync. SCSI explanation...
6.24 Do EIDE-Drives work with NEXTSTEP?
6.25 Anyone have a driver yet that does 8 bit color on an ET4000/w32p
card? (Hercules Dynamite Pro VLB)
6.26 Does a Glidepoint pointing device work with NEXTSTEP?
6.27 AppleTalk under NEXTSTEP/Intel?
6.28 Booting hangs with black screen
6.29 Why are the features of my graphic card useless?
6.30 How to use MIDI without the MusicKit?
6.31 Installation problems with EIDE and ATAPI drives
6.32 Error message during boot time
6.33 Does NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP run with ...
6.34 RAM greater 64MB, now I get a black screen!
6.35 Lost root password
7 Storage
7.1 Disktab help needed: ST15230N
7.2 Formatting DEC DSP3105 with 1024-byte blocks.
7.3 My formatted disk has much less space then advertised!
7.4 Can't initialise my disk within the Workspace
7.5 Initialing Opticals for NeXT
7.6 How to use a tape drive ?
7.7 How to recover from an partially formatted disk?
7.8 What about the ZIP drive?
7.9 How to partition a 4GB drive
7.10 How to mount/ignore a disk during boot
7.11 Can't read multisession CD-ROMs!
8 Printing
8.1 What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with NEXTSTEP?
8.2 What fonts can I use with NEXTSTEP?
8.3 How can I save my printable documents to a postscript file?
8.4 How can I print only the even or odd pages of a document?
8.5 How do I get banner pages on my printer output?
8.6 How do I get [la]TeX files to print correctly on non-NeXT
printers?
8.7 What if I have a PostScript font has not been ported to NEXTSTEP?
8.8 What color printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with
NEXTSTEP?
8.9 How can I make the Page Layout default to A4 in all applications?
8.10 /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: syntax error at line 31: `end
of file' unexpected?
8.11 How to get TeX with NEXTSTEP to make proper fonts for a 600 dpi
laserwriter?
8.12 How to get printer description files (PPD)?
8.13 What are the Canon part numbers for ink cartridges equivalent to
those NeXT's Color Printer uses?
8.14 JetPilot does not work with my JetDirect box, why?
8.15 powering down NeXTprinter during bootup, printer still works
8.16 How to set up the HP LaserJet 4M?
8.17 Laserwriter NTX & NEXTSTEP
8.18 Problems with gray levels in printout
8.19 Can't print using additional fonts
9 Obsolete but still interesting?
9.1 Where can I get NeXT paraphernalia?
9.2 Is there any way to change the text in the title bar of a terminal
window?
9.3 I can't get my pictures in OmniWeb
9.4 How do I remap the and | keys on my keyboard?
9.5 How do I stop NeXTMail/Sendmail adding &Mcirc;s onto the end of
lines?
9.6 Why does NEXTSTEP 1.0 hang a few seconds after attempting to boot?
9.7 Modem hangs under NS2.0 by incoming calls
9.8 NS2.0 doesn't recognize /LocalApps path
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This document was converted from LaTeX using Karl Ewald's latex2html.
The NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FAQ
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1 INTRODUCTION
1.1 README FIRST!
This is now preliminary version of the FAQ. It hasn't been updated for
2 years. Because I was lacking to update it on a regular basis, I'm
now struggling to continue working on it. So be aware, that most
information isn't still up-to-date! (In fact it's sometimes more than
2 years old). However I believe, I've rechecked a lot and most
information should be correct. Please let me now, if you discover any
wrong information.
This FAQ is going to be updated monthly, at least on the Peanuts Web
site. Postings to the newsgroups might change, because the FAQ is
really huge now (over 110 pages, using >200kB).
Please excuse misspellings, wrong grammar, etc. English isn't my
native language and I have only school knowledge.
Have fun!
1.2 About this FAQ
These are the frequently asked questions concerning NeXT, NeXTSTEP or
any other NeXT related topics.
This compilation is meant primarily as a service to the (comp.sys.next
and de.comp.sys.next) community.
NeXT Software,Inc. was a privately held company, heading towards
software business. It sold NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP its award winning OS
and several other software packages (most included with NEXTSTEP):
EOF, NEXTSTEP Developer, WebObjects, NetInfo, ...
However all properties of NeXT Software, Inc. are now owned by Apple
Computer. Apple is still distributed the NeXT software and currently
developing a new operating system based on the NeXT technology, code
name: Rhapsody.
The latest version is OPENSTEP (based on the white paper 'OpenStep'),
which runs not only on top of Mach (as NEXTSTEP does) but also on
Solaris, Windows NT, Windows 95, HP-UX. The user of NeXT's software is
confronted with a wide range of different software and hardware.
To help in the unaware user, this FAQ was founded. But also
professional users might find some interesting information, which they
didn't knew already.
Note that NEXTSTEP,OpenStep and Rhapsody questions often concern
related topics like Objective-C, UNIX, administration tasks, etc. for
which already separate FAQs do exist. See the new.answers newsgroup
for additional FAQs, if your problem isn't covered by this FAQ.
1.3 Submissions
As with all FAQs the quality of the information provided here is
mostly depending on the Usenet community, which in most cases serves
for the information resource. Feel free to e-mail the FAQ author to
contribute, or send error reports.
If you contact the author, use the following subject for submissions:
FAQ submission. To report errors use: FAQ error. Additionally you
might want to add the chapter where the submission/error report
belongs to.
1.4 Availability
This FAQ is published monthly in the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups and in
the near future news.answer.
It may be downloaded via FTP from
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData/Documents/faq/. Special
additions for redistributors and homeusers do exist.
This FAQ may be accessed only through Peanuts as well:
http://www.peanuts.org/
In the near future we want to implement an e-mail service for those
who don't have access to news. You may add yourself to the mailinglist
by sending an e-mail with subject: FAQ mailme. Note that this service
isn't available, yet completely, because there is too little
interested. However I keep a list of all the registered people and
they will still receive e-mail copies.
1.5 Copyright
This FAQ is copyrighted by Bernhard Scholz. (Internet e-mails:
scholzb@peanuts.org)
Mentioned trademarks belong to their holder and are not explicitly
listened.
We do not collect any royalties, charge any fees, or compensate anyone
in connection with this endeavor, but of course we would be happy
about each e-mail commenting on the FAQ, about pizzas (lasagne is
accepted, too :-) ), postcards, ...
Anyway we reserve a copyright on the the published information in this
FAQ. Any questions concerning other redistribution should be send to
the author of the FAQ.
Reprinting of this FAQ, even in parts, is prohibited without
permission by the author except for printings for private use.
Newsletter editors wishing to excerpt from this work for publication
should consider using local electronic bulletin boards to disseminate
this information rather than preparing hardcopies. This allows for
readers to access the most recent information, and perhaps save a
couple of trees.
1.6 Disclaimer
Of course there is no warranty in any case using the information
provided here. We haven't tested the information to be correct.
We are not affiliated with any of the companies mentioned in this FAQ.
1.7 Thanks
Especially we want to thank the Usenet community for contributing to
the FAQ and all the people who have written us.
Then I want to thank the people who worked on the FAQ before I did
take them over (in order of working): Pascal Chesnais and Erik Kay,
Nathan F. Janette, Maximilian Goedel (never released anything but
cleaned up some things for me).
Thanks also to Karl Ewald, who contributed his latex2html Perl script
which replaced the non working original latex2html version.
2 GENERAL INFORMATION
General information
2.1 Information available but not in the written FAQ version
pinout patches
There is additional information available for the following topics:
mouse pinouts, monitor cable pinouts, common addresses, mousepointer
patch, windowmanager patch.
These inforamations are not included in the written FAQ, because they
are considered rarely referenced resources and of not much use for the
written FAQ. However you'll get these information when you download
the whole FAQ via FTP or HTTP as a package for your computer. Please
look at http://www.peanuts.org/FAQ/ for further information.
2.2 Where to get answers?
If you run into a problem, first read the FAQ of course :-) Second you
might consider asking NeXT directly through the electronic service:
nextanswers@next.com. Send an e-mail with subject: ascii help index to
start.
If all fails, post to the newsgroups concerning NeXT related topics:
comp.sys.next.*, de.comp.sys.next.
2.3 How may I contact NeXT, Inc.?
Next, Inc. Contacting NeXT, Inc. Address of NeXT, Inc.
NeXT, Inc. can be reached under the following addresses.
USA: NeXT, Inc.
900 Chesapeake Drive
Redwood City, CA 94063
Voice: 800-848-NeXT (Redwood City #)
Voice: (415)-366-0900
Japan: NeXT marketing div. of Canon - Japan
Phone: (81)-44-549-5295
Fax: (81)-44-549-5462
EUROPE: Munich:
Phone: (49)-89-996-5310
UK: Technology House
Meadowbank
Furlong Road
Bourne End
Bucks
SL8 5AJ
Phone: (44)-1628 535222
Fax: (44)-1628 535200
Note: numbers abroad are listed with the country codes first. You will
need to dial the international access number of your long distance
carrier before proceeding to dialing the country code, area code and
phone number.
2.4 FTP servers
FTP Software
The FAQ mentions a lot of software packages which you might find
useful. In general there are two big sites serving Europe and the US.
These sites keep most of the software available and do mirror
themselves to keep up to date (although the structure of the archive
differ). If the software isn't on one of these sites, the appr
opriate site is listed in the text.
If you get slow connections you might want to consider contacting a
mirror of the both sites. For the Peanuts archive (Europe) the WWW
pages http://www.peanuts.org give you links to an updated list of
mirrors and other FTP sites.
The addresses are:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/ (formerly the ftp.cs.orst.edu archive)
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/ (Peanuts archive in Europe)
ftp://ftp.evolution.com/ (Peanuts mirror USA) ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/
(Peanuts mirror Switzerland)
2.5 Software on CD
There are currently two CD (sets) which serve you with
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep software:
Nebula. Nebula is published by Walnut Creek and mostly contains actual
recompiled software for all supported hardware platforms. It might be
the best choice for those who don't own a compiler. A big font
collection and a developer section complete the disk.
http://www.cdrom.com/
Peanuts Archive Disks. The Peanuts FTP Archive in Munich distributes
their complete NEXTSTEP/OpenStep archive on CD. This currently brings
you 4CDs full with software. Although the software isn't compiled for
each hardware (it is provided 'as uploaded') it is the most complete
software and information resource available on CD. (It includes the
NeXTanswers published by NeXT). http://www.peanuts.org/,
cdrom@peanuts.org
Fatted Calf CD-ROM. The Fatted Calf CD-ROM is published by Ensuing
Technologies, LasVegas, Nevada. Currently I don't know it's special
contents.
Big Green CD. Selected software for NEXTSTEP. Also this software is on
any other CD, too. It might be a good startes collection.
http://skylee.com/BGCD.html, ack@skylee.com
Font Garden for NEXTSTEP CDROM. Some more fonts for computers running
NEXTSTEP. These fonts should be capable of the NEXTSTEP encoding
sheme. However we got noticed that only very few are ISO-LATIN_1. So
it is possible of most interested to English speaking countries.
http://www.cdrom.com/
Clips for QuickTime. Quicktime is NeXT's native format for movies, so
some samples might be quite nice. Note: On the latest Peanuts Archive,
you'll get about 200MB of quicktime movies which might be enough, too.
http://www.cdrom.com/
2.6 What is the current status of NEXTSTEP/OpenStep?
status, NEXTSTEP status, OpenStep
The third production version 3.3, has been released for Intel
Processors (i486 and higher) as well as for NeXT hardware (not
manufactured any longer but still supported), HP workstations and Sun
workstations.
OpenStep versions are announced and will be available this year (1996)
for Windows NT, Windows 95, Mach, Solaris and hopefully HP-UX. The
status for DEC machines and their OS (OSF/1, OpenVMS) is unknown. At
least it is uncertain that there will be a port to OSF/1 or even
OpenVMS, because DEC is doing the port alone. At least you can run
OpenStep on DEC machines running Windows NT in the near future. For
Sun's Solaris systems OpenStep will probably be part of the
NeoDesktop.
There will be no NEXTSTEP 4.0, because NeXT changed the naming
conventions. NEXTSTEP 4.0 (also sometimes referenced as 'Mecca') is
now named 'OpenStep for Mach'
2.7 Will there be a public implementation of OpenStep?
Yes, there is a project by GNU. The so named GNUStep is available in
pre-alpha state from the archive sites. Be aware that it is not fully
functional and currently requires Motif.
In its current state, GNUStep is on it's way to port the FoundationKit
completely. This alone makes it worth to give it a try.
2.8 Are there differences between Openstep for Mach and other implementations?
Yes there are. OpenStep for Mach will include all the well known
features from NEXTSTEP (Services, Filters, SoundKit, ...) which the
other implementations will lack, due to the underlying OS.
To get all the benefits which is offered in NEXTSTEP today, you need
to go for OpenStep for Mach.
2.9 What information is available by NeXT
information NeXT
NeXT, Inc. now operates an automatic e-mail response system. Send
e-mail to "nextanswers@next.com" with the subject
"ascii help index"
to start.
If you do have access to the world wide web, you even want to try the
following URL: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/.
2.10 What is the correct spelling?
NeXT did (and probably will) change their naming conventions a lot.
E.g. NEXTSTEP is the current correct spelling for their operating
system. With the shipping of OpenStep, there will be no more NEXTSTEP,
but OpenStep for Mach/Solaris/HP-UX/Windows95/Wind
owsNT.
Incorrect spellings are: NeXTSTEP, NeXTstep, NeXTStep.
A common shortcut used in the newsgroups is: NS for NEXTSTEP.
2.11 How do I start an official NeXT User Group?
NUG user groups NeXT user groups To start a user group, just send
e-mail to user_groups@next.com.
2.12 Are there differences in the NEXTSTEP implementations?
No, there are no differences beside the DSP, which is a hardware
feature of NeXT computers. On other hardware platforms you have to buy
additional hardware.
2.13 What are the names of the ftp sites that have NeXT-related files?
FTP, servers
There are too many to list them all, so are here are just a few.
NEXTSTEP: next-ftp.peak.org
ftp.peanuts.org
nova.cc.purdue.edu
sonata.cc.purdue.edu
umd5.umd.edu
ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de
MIT GNU: aeneas.mit.edu
MIT X: export.lcs.mit.edu
music: princeton.edu
2.14 Additional information sources
Additional information Information, additional Every NeXT machine
owner has access to manuals to a degree. Network and System
Administration (NSA), for example contains answers to many of the
questions asked to comp.sys.next. Some of the important man pages are
reproduced in the NSA as appendices.
User manuals were shipped with every NeXT. Additional copies available
from NeXT (N6002/N6003/N6014/N6026) $25.
The following books are available directly from NeXT:
* Operating System Software
* NeXTstep Concepts
* NeXTstep Reference, v. 1
* NeXTstep Reference, v. 2
* Development Tools
* Sound, Music, and Signal Processing: Concepts
* Sound, Music, and Signal Processing: Reference
* Writing Loadable Kernel Servers
* Technical Summaries
* Supplemental Documentation
Unix man pages, which are included in the online docs.
BSD unix documentation (MISC, PS1, PS2, SMM, USD). Available from to
USENIX site members. A lot of this has been integrated into the NeXT
documentation. Some of this is sorely missing. The SMM Unix System
Manager's Manual is really useful!
USENIX Association
2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215
Berkeley, CA 94710
USA +1 510 528 8649
fax +1 510 548 5738
office@usenix.org
* PS1 = Programmer's Supplementary Documents, Volume 1
* PS2 = Programmer's Supplementary Documents, Volume 2
* SMM = System Manager's Manual
* USD = User's Supplementary Documents
The SMM and the rest of the berkeley documentation are also available
directly and for free via anon ftp e.g. from
ftp.uu.net /packages/bsd-sources/share/doc.
To format them properly for viewing and printing on the NeXT use nroff
with the package indicated by the file suffix (e.g. to format the
documentation file 0.t use nroff -mt 0.t).
Adobe documentation. Available machine-readable by e-mail from
ps-file-server@adobe.com. Hardcopy available from Adobe Developer
Support Line +1 415 961-4111 for a nominal charge. NeXT last shipped
these as part of the 1.0a release; hardcopies appeared in 0.9
Technical Documentation, were omitted in 1.0, and have returned in
updated form in Supplemental Documentation of the 2.0 Tech Docs (which
is not available on-line).
Get NextAnswers for Digital Librarian from NeXT. The current versions
are actually on ftp.next.com or available via the mailserver at
nextanswers@next.com.
Get NeXT Support Bulletin from the archives. It is meant for support
centers.
Another good source of information is the archives of previously
posted notes from the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups. Note that since the
split of comp.sys.next, there is a group archive maintained at
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData/Usenet.
NeXTstep Advantage book is available electronically from the archive
servers.
The file name is NeXTstepAdvantage.tar.Z; (its compressed size is
about 1.3 megabytes; uncompressed, it's about 9.5 megabytes). It is a
good introduction to the NeXT programming environment.
2.15 How to get FTP files via e-mail.
FTP, e-mail access Some ftp sites are configured as an e-mail archive
server. This means you can upload and download files via e-mail.
Send mail to: archive-server@cc.purdue.edu
------------- mail-server@cs.tu-berlin.de
(with the subject line help and you will get a complete description of
this service)
Submissions: Mail should be sent to archive-server@cc.purdue.edu with
the subject of 'submission' (no ticks) if a person is submitting
material to the archives. They need to include a 1-2 sentence
description of the submission, the OS release the product runs on, and
if it is source, binary, newsletter, etc.
2.16 References on Objective C
Objective-C, documents Objective-C and other useful Object-oriented
programming references:
Budd, Timothy, An Introduction to Object-Oriented Programming
(Addison-Wesley) [It discusses Smalltalk, Object Pascal, C++ and
Objective-C]
Cox, Brad J., Object Oriented Programming: An Evolutionary Approach
ISBN 0-201-10393-1. (Addison-Wesley) [Note: 2nd edition - ISBN is
0-201-54834-8 and has coauthor A.J. Novobilski]
Huizenga, Gerrit, Slides from a short course on Objective-C available
via anonymous ftp from:
sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/docs/ObjC.frame.Z, ObjC.ps.Z, or
OldObjC.wn.tar.Z
Meyer, Bertrand, Object-Oriented Software Construction
(Prentice-Hall).
NeXT Technical Documentation
Pinson and Weiner, Objective-C: Object-Oriented Programming Techniques
(Addison-Wesley). 350 pages, ISBN 0 201 50828 1, paperback.
User Reference Manual for Objective-C which is available from
Stepstone Corporation. (203)426-1875. Note: There are some differences
between Stepstone's Objective-C and NeXT's.
2.17 How to contact music interested people.
Music, contacts
Since NeXT has become for now the platform of choice for much of the
computer music composition and research community, the newsgroup
comp.music is one good place to find people with information and
interest in music on the NeXT.
There is also a mailing list specifically for NeXT music. For posting
to the dist list: nextmusic@horowitz.eecs.umich.edu
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change addresses, etc.:
nextmusic-request@horowitz.eecs.umich.edu
2.18 How to announce upcoming events
Announcements Please send any announcements of upcoming NeXT-related
events to next-announce@digifix.com These events will be posted to
comp.sys.next.announce. Be sure to send your announcement in plenty of
time to have it posted prior to the event. One to two weeks in advance
would be a good idea.
Since postings will be carried across many networks, commercial
announcements may be edited down to reflect network usage policies.
Look for current guidelines posted weekly in the newsgroup.
2.19 Can I mix different hardware running NEXTSTEP?
NeXT, networking Networking
Of course! NEXTSTEP is design to plug and play with existing NeXT
installations. NeXT has addressed interoperability between NEXTSTEP
systems in the following ways:
* NEXTSTEP systems share identical networking capabilities.
* NEXTSTEP systems share the same Distributed Objects.
* NEXTSTEP systems use the same system and network administration
services.
* NEXTSTEP systems use the same mass storage format. Yes, you can
take a external SCSI drive, removable media (e.g. Bernoulli etc)
or floppy disk and use it interchangeably between NeXT Computers
running NEXTSTEP.
2.20 Can I exchange software running on different hardware?
With the shipping of NEXTSTEP 3.x binaries are distributed FAT. This
means, that a binary might include different versions of the
executable for each hardware platform NEXTSTEP is running on. On the
archive sites you might easily recognize the supported h
ardware by a key letter: N = NeXT computers, I=Intel based, H=HP
hardware, S=Sun hardware. A FAT binary is runable by every supported
hardware listed in the binary file. NeXT ships tools to examine such a
fat binary and to add/strip different hardwa
re modules to/from a binary.
The correct spelling for a fat binary is: MAB binary (multi
architecture binary) but most commonly 'fat' is used.
With the shipping of OpenStep this will change. OpenStep applications
are only sourcecode compatible and have to be recompiled for each
architecture. This implies that you need a compiler for future
PD/SW/FW-software, although OpenStep for Mach will still
support FAT binaries and NEXTSTEP 3.x applications will continue to
run under OpenStep for Mach.
3 WHAT IS ...
What is ...
This chapter tries to give you some overview over NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP
software and related software. For a detailed description you should
contact the producer's WWW server. E.g. for more information about
OPENSTEP contact http://www.next.com/
3.1 NEXTSTEP
NEXTSTEP
NEXTSTEP is a complete development and user environment by NeXT it
provides an unique GUI (graphical user interface), which currently
gets copied by several other OS provider like Microsoft, combined with
the currently most advanced and tested OS, named Mach. NeXT applied
several changes to the Mach kernel to add special features which makes
NEXTSTEP unique.
NEXTSTEP comes with a lot of development kits (bundles of classes to
build on), like: Sound Kit, Indexing Kit, 3D Graphics Kit, Database or
EOF Kit and Application Kit.
Bundled with NEXTSTEP are several user applications which enhance the
daily use dramatically: NeXTMail (a MIME compatible mail application),
Edit (a simple but powerful editor), FaxReader (for reading incoming
faxes, you are able to send faxes from every application which
supports printing), DigitalWebster (Webster's Ninth New Collegiate
Dictionary and Collegiate Thesaurus), Digital Librarian (indexing and
full text search utility, usable over groups of files) Preview (a
PostScript and TIFF display utility), Terminal (UNIX terminal
application for VT100 and TN3270 emulation), TeX (a well known
compiler for formatted text), SYBASE and ORACLE adapters (to contact
to SYBASE and ORACLE databases within EOF applications).
One special thing about NEXTSTEP is the display system. NeXT uses DPS
(Display Post Script), which gives you true WYSIWYG on every NEXTSTEP
system. The window server supports PostScript Level II, Interactive
RenderMan and Photorealistic RenderMan (an distributed engine for fast
high quality rendering, based on Pixar's RenderMan).
To be used in networks, NEXTSTEP supports NFS, NetInfo, Novell Netware
(as client only), Ethernet and Token Ring and different filesystems
(Mac, DOS, ISO 9660, High Sierra, Rock Ridge).
For multimedia purposes NeXT uses Lempel-Ziv compression for text,
Audio Transform Compression for Sound (comparable to Sony MiniDisc),
JPEG for TIFF and Group 4 for Fax. Of course these are only standard
modes and NEXTSTEP is extensible to use other methods too.
For system administration (remember that NEXTSTEP is using Mach as an
UNIX derivate), NeXT supplies several administration applications
which make it easy to configure NEXTSTEP as needed, like:
SimpleNetworkStarter, UserManager, PrintManager, NFSManager,
HostManager, NetInfo Manager, BuildDisk, Upgrader and the complete
documentation and manual pages online.
3.2 Mach
Mach
Mach is the the basic OS layer NeXT uses for NEXTSTEP. It is a micro
kernel, which means it is extensible at runtime. Micro kernel often
stands for a small kernel size, too, but due to the compatibility to
BSD 4.3 Mach is currently about 1MB in size.
Features of Mach are: loadable kernel services (extensions during
runtime), different scheduling algorithms, an advanced messaging
system, an advanced memory allocation mechanism (copy on demand, world
wide message broadcasting), true multitasking, multi-threading and BSD
compatibility.
3.3 OPENSTEP
OPENSTEP
OPENSTEP is the latest release of NeXT's NEXTSTEP with the ability to
be OS independent (NEXTSTEP depends on Mach).
OPENSTEP is currently available for Mach, Windows NT and Solaris and
will get available for other operating systems in the future.
The architecture of OPENSTEP was made public in late 1995 and since
then GNU is working on a public port of OPENSTEP to e.g. X11 based
UNIX systems.
To express the new standard, 'OPENSTEP/Mach' is now the correct
spelling for the formerly named NEXTSTEP product by NeXT, but it is
known that NeXT itself is still using the same version numbering
scheme for at least the Mach product line, so the first release of
OPENSTEP for Mach is equivalent to NEXTSTEP 4.0 and in fact the first
OPENSTEP product is named 'OPENSTEP/Mach 4.0'.
OPENSTEP is supposed to be an industry standard for developing object
oriented, system independent, scalable solutions for client/server
architectures. It was adopted by Sun, Hewlett Packard and Digital. It
provides distributed applications through PDO (Portable Distributed
Objects) and D'OLE (Distributed OLE) based on CORBA. The usage of EOF
supplies object persistence with traditional relational databases. And
finally with WebObjects, objects are accessible through the internet
or in your own private network.
OPENSTEP, like NEXTSTEP 3.3 provides several kits for software
developers like: Application Kit and Foundation Kit as well as Display
PostScript.
Applications written for OPENSTEP are sourcecode compatible to all
other architectures running OPENSTEP, although fat binaries are only
available under OPENSTEP for Mach (because the binary format is
depending on the operating system). It's rumored, that OPENSTEP
applications will also compile fine under Apple's new Rhapsody
version.
For the NEXTSTEP user OPENSTEP doesn't take away old known features.
In addition with OPENSTEP for Mach you get Mach enhancements, an
enhanced workspace manager, Perl5, TaylerUUCP, PPP and Samba.
Old applications will continue to run under OPENSTEP for Mach and need
to be recompiled to run under Windows NT, Solaris, and other OPENSTEP
platforms. Which goes side by side to become true OPENSTEP
applications-
The following are some new advantages/disadvantages over the known
NEXTSTEP product:
* documented NEXTIME library for developing
* faster message handling
* handling of disks >2GB in automatically. Paritioning size is still
limited to 2GB.
* no Novell Netware support (supposed to be included with OPENSTEP
4.1)
* Renderman still included
* Indexing Kit available by third party (MiscKit)
* no more POSIX! (Hopefully included again in OPENSTEP 4.1)
3.4 Objective-C
Objective-C
To develop applications NeXT uses Objective-C as its native
programming language. Objective-C is a more strict OO language then
C++ but covers C as well as C++. Because NeXT uses the GNU C/C++
compiler, you go with the most spreaded and tested C compiler
available for most UNIX platforms of today. (Of course you can use
Objective-C on every platform on which gcc is available).
Objective-C is different to other languages in the way it executes
code. Objective-C uses a runtime library to dynamically access objects
at runtime. This allows you to change objects at runtime etc. All this
goes with nearly no speed penalty, because hashing mechanisms are used
to access the different methods of an object.
There is also ObjC which is an different product, available as a
commercial compiler for different operating systems. Don't mix up
things by using the expression ObjC instead of Objective-C. For
shortcut purposes the NeXT community also uses the term ObjC/Obj-C but
of course thinks of Objective-C by NeXT.
Objective-C isn't standardized, yet.
In Objective-C you are able to mix code. E.g. you can use C++ and C in
any Objective-C program.
Objective-C is a simple and concise object-oriented extension to
ANSI-C. It has a runtime messaging facility and offers dynamic
binding. Distributed objects are supported and the code is optimized
for native compilations.
It's syntax and programming technique is much like in SmallTalk. Using
Objective-C you can even message objects in other applications, also
over a network!
3.5 NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Developer
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Developer
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Developer is currently the only way to develop
applications under NEXTSTEP because it includes all the necessary
include files and libraries.(Of course you can get any GNU C version
precompiled, but it won't help you without the include files and
linker libraries).
In addition to a precompiled GCC, include files and the linker
libraries you will get the famous NeXT developer tools: ProjectBuilder
(your commando center for building applications and managing sources),
InterfaceBuilder (for designing the application's GUI and making
object connections), an graphical addition to GDB (GNU Debugger)
integrated in Edit (NEXTSTEP) or ProjectBuilder (OPENSTEP),
MallocDebug (for seeking memory leaks), HeaderViewer (access class
information in header files and in documented form in a browser),
DBModeler (for building data models, based on Database Kit) (NEXTSTEP
only), Yap (an interactive PostScript interpreter and viewer),
IconBuilder (a very simple but extensible pixel-based editor for
creating icons) and popular UNIX utilities like GNU Emacs, yacc, lex,
vi...
3.6 D'OLE
D'OLE
D'OLE is a shortcut for Distributed OLE. OLE is Microsoft's standard
for Object Linking and Embedding and is currently not distributable
across platforms. With D'OLE you can distribute OLE objects across the
network like e.g. in SOM by IBM. But D'OLE is more. It uses NeXT's
object model PDO (Portable Distributed Objects) from Unix to Windows
platforms and enables OLE objects to communicate with OPENSTEP objects
natively, which means without changing the application. OPENSTEP
objects behave like OLE objects and vice versa.
D'OLE also supports EOF (Enterprise Objects Framework) which enables a
distributed computing environment to access database and provides an
infinitely flexible choice of application deployment of application
deployment strategies.
D'OLE uses the Foundation Framework, Distributed Object Framework and
other core classes. It comes bundled with C/Objective-C compiler and
GNU make, although Microsoft Visual C++ is required. Further you get a
portable nmserver, Mach emulation and on-line documentation.
3.7 PDO --- Portable Distributed Objects
PDO
PDO is a shortcut for Portable Distributed Objects. In the near future
PDO will become CORBA 2.0 compliant.
It is the industry's first product to provide a heterogeneous
client/server framework on objects. With PDO it is possible to deploy
objects on non-NEXTSTEP server Machines and therefore deployed
anywhere in a network, wherever they are most appropriate for a task.
PDO encapsulates low-level network protocols, making messaging a
remote object as straightforward as messaging a local object. You even
don't have to learn new programming tools or techniques, because PDO
is a subset of NeXT tools and objects. Because PDO makes object
location completely transparent to the application, the application
communicates with every object the same way regardless wether it is
local, in the local network or anywhere in the world.
Because of the free location of objects, objects may get moved to
other locations, e.g. to optimize performance, without modification of
the application using it.
PDO also runs on non-NEXTSTEP servers. It comes with it's own set of
classes, libraries and even an Objective-C++ compiler, etc. Neverless
you can build, maintain, etc. from any NEXTSTEP client connected to a
PDO server. The tools used for building the final objects however are
native to the server's OS.
PDO comes with Foundation Framework, Distributed Objects Framework,
DOEventLoop and other core classes. Bundled tools are: Objective-C++
compiler, GDB, libg++, GNU make, Portable BuildServer, Portable
nmserver, Mach Emulation, NEXTSTEP's default system, on-line
documentation. Currently supported platforms are: HP-UX, SunOS,
Solaris, Digital UNIX.
3.8 EOF --- Enterprise Objects Framework
EOF
EOF is the latest replacement for the DatabaseKit and available as an
extra product.
EOF bridges the gap between objects and relational databases. With EOF
you can bring the advantage of object oriented design etc. to
applications which use relational databases. (Therefore you don't need
an object oriented database!)
EOF clarifies many things. It supports a three-tier client/server
architecture by separating the user interface, business objects and
the database. In fact you can simply exchange the database (by
changing the adapter) and still use the same application!
Developing under EOF doesn't limit you to e.g. Objective-C. EOF allows
the integration of e.g. 4GL code as well as SQL etc. all combined
under the advantage of NeXT's developer tools.
EOF includes client and server software. It consists of the Enterprise
Object Modeler, runtime libraries and adapters for SYBASE,ORACLE and
Informix (other adapters available from the DBMS producers). It
currently runs under HP-UX, SunOS, Solaris, Digital UNIX and always
requires PDO. For client use you additionally need NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.
3.9 WebObjects
WebObjects
WebObjects helps you building dynamic Web pages. It is targeted to the
server side of the Web and there mostly to the intranets, also most
people might find it very useful for the Internet, too. It is
operating system independent and runs under Windows NT, Solaris,
HP-UX, Digital UNIX and NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.
WebObjects contains development tools to build components for your
application logic, as well as a set of reusable components to manage
the rendering of your application. Because WebObjects is Java
compatible, you even can integrate Java applets in your application
today. It supports the standard http servers which have to support CGI
or NSAPI interface. WebObjects supports database access to Informix,
Oracle, Sybase and DB/2.
What's unique about WebObjects is the ability to share the logic of
your Web application and your data with other internal applications.
It means that you are not required to maintain a dedicated database or
write specific application code for your Web application.
Currently there are three versions of WebObjects: WebObjects,
WebObjects Pro and WebObjects Enterprise. WebObjects itself is freely
available to anybody interested in. WebObjects Pro contains PDO and
WebObjects Enterprise contains PDO and EOF with a special license to
connect to the Internet. But because WebObjects is a brand new
product, look at http://www.next.com/WebOjects/ for further
information.
WebObjects is free for academic usage.
3.10 Rhapsody
Rhapsody Rhapsody is the code name for Apple's new operating system,
based on BSD 4.4 and OPENSTEP frameworks. Because it's not released
yet, we don't talk about it. (Also we could, of course, spread some
details, but it would only produce more noise.) Please refer to
http://www.apple.com/, http://www.devworld.apple.com/,
http://www.macrumors.com/, http://www.rhapsodyos.com/ for more details
3.11 WWW Browser
WWW Browser Browser OmniWeb NetSurfer SpiderWoman NetScape
First: There is no Java capable browser.
Several NEXTSTEP browsers are available for NEXTSTEP. The currently
most advanced browser is named 'OmniWeb'. OmniWeb is commercial in the
way that you need a license to use it in a network. A single user
license is free. OmniWeb seems to be continuesly updated and support
is known to be good. OmniWeb is also supporting a lot of well known
Netscape features.
There is also a public domain WWW browser named 'SpiderWoman'. It's
plus is the NEXTSTEP look and feel (e.g. you navigate through the Web
like you navigate your filesystem with WorkspaceManager). Anyway
SpiderWoman is somehow unstable and it seems as if development
stopped.
Another commercial browser is NetSurfer. Demos are available on the
ftp sites. This browser is preferred by several people because it
integrates ftp access very well. Anyway you have to pay for it.
Netscape isn't available for NEXTSTEP and is unlikely to be ported.
3.12 Newsreader
Newsreader Alexandra NewsGrazer NewsFlash RadicalNews
There are currently four well known newsreaders for NEXTSTEP.
First there is Alexandra, a public domain newsreader and second there
is NewsGrazer (and unsupported NeXT product). You should test them to
get your personal favorite. The only real difference is the support of
NEXTSTEP 3.3J (Japanese) and flatfiles in NewsGrazer, while the
interface in Alexandra seems to be better for many people.
NewsFlash is a commercial product which adds several features. As
RadicalNews it supports article threading, automated posting and
extraction of multi-part files. Demos are available on the ftp sites.
E-mail inquiries should go to support@wolfware.com. Further info is
available at: http://www.wolfware.com/
RadicalNews is a commercial newsreader. It supports true article
threading, quoted text highlighting, japanese and Latin-1 support,
URL-support, an interface to Digital Librarian, a sophisticated
coloring scheme and much more. Info is available at:
http://www.radical.com/.
A note to both commercial versions: the community is very splitted
about which version is to prefer. In general it seems as if there are
no really 'killer features' so it prefers much to personal taste.
Demos are available and don't forget to test the free versions, too!
4 MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION
Misc Various Unsorted
4.1 How do I get pictures of people from remote sites to appear in Mail.app and
NewsGrazer?
Pictures, in Mail Pictures, in NewsGrazer Mail, remote Pictures
Newsgrazer, remote Pictures
You can do this in the following ways.
* Mail In /LocalLibrary/Images/People put a tiff (64x64) in the form
of person@remote.site.domain.tiff (all lowercase). In
/LocalLibrary/Images/People/passwd add an entry for the person:
person@remote.site.domain:*:-2:-2::/nodir:/noshell
(person and sitename need to be all lowercase as well) In the
future anytime you get mail from the person their picture should
appear.
You can include an "aliases" file in /LocalLibrary/Images/People
too. This allows you to use the same picture for somebody that
might send you mail from accounts on many different sites, or for
those people whose letters use several different routings.
To do this, you include entries in this local aliases file like
so:
bkohler@ucrac1.ucr.edu:bkohler.gonzo.ucr.edu
gonzo.ucr.edu!bkohler@uupsi2.uucp:bkohler.gonzo.ucr.edu
There should then be a .tiff file called
bkohler.gonzo.ucr.edu.tiff.
There can be no CAPITAL LETTERS in this file. So even if the
address in the From: field looks like
gonzo.ucr.edu!bkohler@uupsi2.UUCP, keep the letters lowercase in
the aliases file. As always, you have to restart Mail before these
changes take effect.
* NewsGrazer
In /LocalLibrary/NewsGrazer/People put a tiff (64x64) in the form
of person.remote.site.domain (all lowercase). This is a different
naming convention from what Mail uses.
There is a large archive of some 4000 or 5000 pictures prepared
for this purpose. The name of this archive is Faces3.tar.Z and it
is about 4.1 MBytes large. Currently it is available from several
anonymous ftp sites (e.g. sonata.cc.purdue.edu in:
/pub/next/graphics/Images/icons/people)
That image archive also contains a script which automatically
creates proper alias and passwd files.
4.2 How to manipulate and examine default settings
* A command line utility for examining defaults is available from:
sutro.sfsu.edu:/pub/wmdefaults1.0.tar.Z
* A PD App, DefaultMgr.app, is available on the NeXT ftp archives.
* A more brute approach (done by DefaultMgr.app):
Start the application under gdb, and then try the following
sequence of commands:
break *0x500976a
commands 1
silent
printf "%s: ", *$a2
output {char *}(4+$a2)
echo \n
cont
end
run
[Carl Edman ] adds:
DefaultMgr.app doesn't any longer work properly under 3.0. It still is
able to manipulate defaults but can't any longer "investigate" apps to
find out which defaults they use.
[eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)] adds:
Needs to be revised for 3.x systems. wmdefaults is only for 2.x; it's
not needed for 3.0 and later.
4.3 How do I run NextApps remotely?
Remote running
On the local machine make sure you have public window server access,
this is set from the Preferences application. On the foreign NeXT
machine run the application from a terminal window with the -NXHost .
Both machines should be running the same version of NeXTstep.
[shayman@Objectario.com (Steve Hayman)]
NeXTSTEP 3.1 and higher includes a demo application called OpenSesame
that simplifies this. You can select a program in Workspace and use >
Service > Open Sesame > Open on Another Host ...to launch a program on
a remote machine. This is a way to run old, non-fat-binary software on
new NeXTSTEP/Intel machines.
4.4 Why does UUCP hangs on outgoing connections after sending the password, but
other communications software do not have a problem with it?
UUCP
What is happening is that the remote machine is waiting for you to end
your login or password by typing a "Return" (aka &Mcirc; or CR or
CARRIAGE RETURN). UUCP ends a line by sending a LineFeed (aka Ĵ
or LF). Since UUCP doesn't send the CR, the login sequence is never
completed, and you will usually get one of two error messages:
wanted "password:" (means that username needs to end with a CR)
imsg waiting for SYNC< (means that password needs to end with CR)
So how do you get UUCP to send CR, instead of LF?
End the send string with the sequence
n
c. For instance this line in L.sys will send a LF after login, but a
CR after password.
myfeed Any DIR 9600 cub "" ATTD19095551212 9600 \
"" ogin:--ogin: Unext ssword: secret\n\c
4.5 How do I access the NeXT's Digital Webster Dictionary from a program?
Webster
Get Jiro Nakamura's define program from the archiver servers:
define.tar.Z. This will allow you to access the database from the
command line. This program breaks under 3.x. For 3.x there are two
other programs which might be useful: Webster.a5 and websterd.
4.6 How do I get the arrow keys to work in csh?
csh, arrow keys
This is for people who use a terminal app that does vt100 keyboard
emulation - pasc
First, add these lines to your .cshrc (preferably between the if and
endif):
set editmode=emacs
set macrofiles=.macros
Then create a file called .bindings and put in it:
bind-to-key ExecuteNamedMacro '\e['
And, next, you need to make a file called ".macros". Using an editor
like emacs (which can insert control characters using a &Qcirc;
prefix), into this file put:
A^@^@^@^A^P
B^@^@^@^A^N
C^@^@^@^A^F
D^@^@^@^A^B
where &@circ; means Control-@ and ƒ means Control-A, etc. Also, don't
put in the leading spaces. This will set up the left and right arrows
to move back and forth on the line, and the up and down arrows will
cycle through your history.
On Intel machines these sequences are a little different:
A^A^@^@^@^P
B^A^@^@^@^N
C^A^@^@^@^F
D^A^@^@^@^B
Then source .cshrc and the changes should take effect.
4.7 What default affects menu location?
Menu, location Do the following.
dwrite GLOBAL NXMenuX <value>
dwrite GLOBAL NXMenuY <value>
4.8 How to get Gourmet to boot up the Mathematica 2.0 kernel?
Mathematica
Login as root, or get root privileges running su, and execute the
following five commands:
mkdirs /NextApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel/NeXT
cd /NextApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel
ln -s uuuuu/Mathematica.app/Kernel/Display Utilities
cd NeXT
ln -s vvvvv/math mathexe
where uuuuu is the directory where Mathematica was placed (typically,
/LocalApps) and vvvvv is the directory where the executable math was
placed (typically, /usr/local/bin)
4.9 Manipulating the Loginwindow
loginwindow dwrites
There are some for loginwindow:
[Jess Anderson writes:]
Here, I hope, is the quasi-definitive story on dwrites that affect the
loginwindow. I'm indebted to several people, notably Art Isbell,
Kristian Koehntopp, Dan Danz, Louie Mamakos, John Kheit, Felix Lugo,
and Paul Sears, for some of the information presented here.
Remember that dwrites are not supported by NeXT; they may change with
any subsequent system release. These I've checked out using 3.0; some
or all may work with earlier releases, but I can't vouch for most of
them.
All these dwrites must be done as root. You can also run as root and
use DefaultMgr to set them (which is a whole lot more convenient if
you're intending to fiddle with some of them).
After setting the things you want, restart the WindowServer by logging
out of the current session and typing exit on the login panel.
OK, here's what we know (or think we do :-):
dwrite loginwindow DefaultUser <login-name>
Most new machines have set to me. This dwrite logs in user
automatically. User must not have a password set, hence don't use this
in a networked environment!
dwrite loginwindow HostName "<host_name>"
dwrite loginwindow HostName localhost
These cause your host name to appear on the login panel. You need
quote marks only if there's a space in the name. The first form
hard-codes the name into root's defaults database. The second form
uses whatever name has been set as localhost in NetInfo, which is
convenient for networked machines.
The font, size, color, and position of the printed string are not
accessible (drat!).
dwrite loginwindow ImageFile <path/to/a/suitable.tiff>
This uses the tiff image pointed to instead of the standard one (in
/usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/English.lproj/nextlogin.tiff, .lproj
as appropriate for your main language) as the login panel. Be sure you
get the pointer right, though, or you'll have to boot single-user to
fix it. In practical terms, the image is constrained in various ways I
won't detail here.
dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim <integer_number>
No relation to the dim time set by Preferences. The units are odd, I
think. Felix reported them as 1/34 second. However, when I changed it
to 1020, I got 15 seconds to dimming, and 680 gives 10 seconds, that
I'm sure of. So I think the units are 1/68 second. Maybe Felix just
thought it was too damn long! We all know it seems longer when you're
not having fun waiting. :-) Whatever, the login screen dims to about
half after this length of time.
dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES
This causes the panel to move around approximately in Backspace
bouncing-off-the-walls-tiff fashion. The point is to avoid burning the
screen phosphors, as a static image would tend to do. The animation is
controlled by the next couple dwrites.
dwrite loginwindow MovementTimeout <real_number>
The units are seconds. The panel starts moving (assuming the preceding
is set to YES) after this time. If you set it to be less than the
TimeToDim time, the movement starts before the dimming occurs. I did
not try zero. I can't stand waiting around for things to happen, so I
use 10 seconds for both times. The default appears to be 5 minutes.
dwrite loginwindow MovementScale <integer_number>
No movement occurs if this is set to 1. But it looks like the units
might be approximately pixels for each change of position (the
frequency of which is controlled by the next dwrite). If you put a big
number here, say 200, the image moves in big jumps, but I don't know
if the 200 is divided up somehow between change in x- and
y-coordinates. I wouldn't worry about it much, just set it to
something you like. Since my image contains readable text, I want it
to scroll smoothly around, so I use the apparently minimum value, 2.
The default appears to be 10.
dwrite loginwindow MovementRate <real_number>
The units are seconds. The image jumps by the amount above every this
many seconds. The default is 0.0666 seconds. Bigger numbers mean
slower motion. Since I don't like things being too jumpy or zooming
around, I set this to 0.1 seconds. This makes my image ooze at a pace
befitting an elderly person like me.
dwrite loginwindow PowerOffDisabled YES
This makes it a little harder to turn the machine off; you have to use
the monitor or the minimonitor (- ) if it's set, rather than the key.
dwrite loginwindow LoginHook <path/to/loginhook/executable>
dwrite loginwindow LogoutHook <path/to/logouthook/executable>
Pointers to the login and logout hooks, if used. It should be pointed
out that some of these things (login/logout hooks, for example) are
maybe more logically set where the loginwindow is invoked by the
WindowServer, namely /etc/ttys.
There are yet others. Here's the full list (thanks, Art):
NXGetDefaultValue("loginwindow", "DebugHook") => 0x0
NXGetDefaultValue("loginwindow", "DryRun") => 0x0
NXGetDefaultValue("loginwindow", "WindowServerTimeout") => 0x0
NXRegisterDefaults("loginwindow", 0x16024)
KeyMapPath: 0x12d97
"~/Library/Keyboards:/LocalLibrary/Keyboards:/NextLibrary/Keyboards"
Keymap: 0x12de1 "/NextLibrary/Keyboards/USA"
SwappedKeymap: 0x12e0a "No"
LoginHook: 0x0
LogoutHook: 0x0
HostName: 0x0
ImageFile: 0x0
DefaultUser: 0x12e41 "me"
PowerOffDisabled: 0x0
TimeToDim: 0x12e69 "2040"
MoveWhenIdle: 0x12e0a "No"
MovementTimeout: 0x12e8b "300.0"
MovementRate: 0x12e9e "0.06666"
MovementScale: 0x12eb4 "10"
[Christopher J. Kane kane@cs.purdue.edu]
Under NeXTSTEP 3.1, the login window has two buttons labeled "Reboot"
and "Power" that allow a user to reboot and power down from the login
window. In a public lab, this feature may be undesirable. The
PowerOffDisabled default can be used to disable the buttons, but they
are still shown in the window and push in when clicked (a bad user
interface decision, IMHO).
The program below patches loginwindow to eradicate the restart and
power buttons. It makes the loginwindow's LoginButton class instance
method initWithImage:altImage:andString: a no-op (just return nil).
This patch has been applied to the machines in the NeXT lab at Purdue
(like sonata.cc.purdue.edu for instance), and no adverse effects have
been noted.
This program must be run as root, since it writes to the file
/usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/loginwindow.
An archive with a compiled executable has been submitted to
sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
/*
* Patches the loginwindow.app to eradicate the restart and power
* buttons from the login window.
*
* Christopher J. Kane (kane@cs.purdue.edu)
* Released into public domain; August 13, 1993.
*/
#include <libc.h>
#include <errno.h>
void main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
unsigned char patch[8] = {0x0, 0x0, 0x42, 0x80, 0x4e, 0x5e, 0x4e,
0x75};
int file = open("/usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/loginwindow",
O_WRONLY);
if (-1==file)
goto error;
if (-1==lseek(file, 21170, SEEK_SET))
goto error;
if (-1==write(file, patch, 8))
goto error;
if (-1==close(file))
goto error;
exit(0);
error:
fprintf(stderr, "%s: %s\n", argv[0], strerror(errno));
exit(1);
}
FAQ-Authors note: We strongly recommend to do a backup of the
loginwindow application, because the patch alters the file directly
and will most likely not work on different versions of the OS.
4.10 How does one set UNIX man pages to be viewed in nroff format with DL like
the standard manual pages in NS2.x?
man pages, NS2.x
Beyond looking in the man pages under ixBuild, etc., what you want to
do is put a few files (contents listed below file name) the .index
directory:
.roffArgs:
-man
displayCommand:
tbl %s | nroff -man
ixBuildOptions:
-fman -Nwhatis -Ncat[1-8ln] -V
Other options that people suggested for ixBuildOptions:
-fman -Nwhatis -Ncat[1-8] -V /usr/local/man
-fman -Nwhatis -V /usr/local/man/man*
I don't think you need to explicitly name the directory in the first
alternative, but you do in the second unless you want the cat*
directories indexed as well.
Note: Do NOT leave a trailing return after the line in ixBuildOptions;
DL will barf. (I think someone said that, as shipped, the standard man
.index/ixBuildOptions had this problem.)
[From: Eric D. Engstrom ]
Can anyone tell me what the command line for this might be under
NEXTSTEP 3.0?
Short answer: RTM on ixbuild(1) - specifically the parameter "-g".
In addition, I'd like to inform the newsgroup of a simple hack I setup
on my own machine to create a unified DL target for all UNIX Manual
pages (including system, local, gnu, whatever). This was easier under
2.x because IXBuild (pre IXKit) had more hacks in it...
Basically, you need to setup a directory with sym-links to the various
man-page directories; For example:
(397)basilisk% pwd
/LocalLibrary/Documentation/ManPages
(398)basilisk% ls -alg
total 728
drwxrwxr-x 2 eric wheel 1024 Mar 28 18:03 ./
drwxrwxr-x 11 root wheel 1024 Mar 27 00:41 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 eric wheel 370 Feb 27 22:01 .README
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 872 Feb 27 17:11 .dir.tiff
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 20 Feb 27 17:11 .displayCommand
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 47 Feb 27 17:10 .index.iname
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 6 Feb 27 17:10 .index.itype
-rw-r--r-- 1 eric wheel 729088 Mar 28 18:44 .index.store
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 5 Feb 27 17:11 .roffArgs
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 18 Feb 27 17:53 gnu ->
/usr/local/gnu/man/@
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 14 Feb 27 17:53 local ->
/usr/local/man/@
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 9 Feb 27 17:53 news ->
/news/man/@
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 35 Feb 27 17:53 system ->
/usr/man/@
Notice that I also copied all the .[a-z]* files from the /usr/man/
directory as well.
Then, use ixbuild -gl to (re)build the index. If your any of the links
point to directories on other devices, add "d" to "-gl". "-v" will
give you verbose output (like my writing style ;-). RTM under
ixbuild(1) for more info.
Unfortunately, once the index is built, I've never successfully gotten
DL to update it correctly. Instead I have to do it by hand using
ixbuild -ogldvc (actually, I setup a cron job to reindex weekly.)
If you have troubles, try removing the .index.store file and
rebuilding the entire database. I've had intermittent problems with
ixbuild under 3.0.
4.11 Appending a signature and addition headers to your e-mail
.signature signature Mail
There is a bundle for Mail to which, beside other features, allows you
to add a .signature file to outgoing e-mails: EnhancedMail.bundle.
This software package is available by the FTP archive sites.
Here are other solutions which might serve you as well:
[Carl Edman ]
First create a simple text file the following content:
#!/bin/sh
{
if test -r ${HOME}/.add-header; then cat ${HOME}/.add-header; fi
cat -
if test -r ${HOME}/.signature; then echo "--"; cat ${HOME}/.signature;
fi
}| /usr/lib/sendmail "$@"
A good name for this file would be sendmail-addheader. If you want to
and can install it for system-wide use put this file in e.g. /usr/lib.
Otherwise your private /Unix/bin directory is also fine. Make certain
that this file has execute permission. To set that, use e.g. chmod 755
/usr/lib/sendmail-addheader.
Next, open up the preferences panel in Mail. Switch to the expert
options. Change the Mailer option from /usr/lib/sendmail (which it
should originally be) to /usr/lib/sendmail-addheader (or whatever the
name of the file you created is). OK this and you should be set.
From now on your file /.signature file should always be appended to
all mail sent out with Mail.app. In addition if you have a file called
add-header in your home-directory it should automatically be prepended
to your outgoing mail. To implement a reply-to line, you would simply
give it the following content:
Reply-to: My Real Human Name <name@my.real.address>
IMPORTANT: Make certain that you have one and exactly one newline at
the end of /.add-header. Anything might break outgoing mail. Beware!
BUG: The /.signature file is not added properly for NeXT mail
containing attachments. The headers will still be added properly. This
could be fixed but probably is more of a hassle than it is worth.
[From: jbrow@radical1.radical.com (Jim Brownfield)]
I have added a Terminal Service to terminal to add a signature file
whenever I type "0" (command/zero), and I thought this might be of
interest to people who read your FAQ. I have used this technique for
over a year with no problems, and it has the advantage of working both
with non-NeXT and NeXT Mail.
First, you must create a file with your signature containing the
characters "--" on the first line (there has been some discussion as
to whether this should be "-- " ("--" followed by a blank), but my
file only has the "--" as the first line. The rest of the file should
contain your normal signature. If you place the file in your home
directory, I recommend NOT using the filename ".signature" for this
file since it may conflict with other programs (like NewsGrazer). I
use the filename ".fullSignature". The file used for the signature
should be ascii and not RTF to allow the file to be used for NeXT and
non-NeXT mail.
You can create a "Get signature" service by launching Terminal and
accessing the "Terminal Services" window through the "Info/Terminal
Services..." menu item. Then perform the following:
1. Create a new service by clicking on the "New" button. Change the
service name to "Get signature".
2. Add the command "cat " and "0" (zero) to the "Command and Key
Equivalent" entry. The "0" is obviously arbitrary, but I've found
that it doesn't conflict with any of the commands I normally use.
3. De-select any items checked within the "Accept" grouping. Select
the "As Input" radio button under the "Use Selection" section.
4. Change the "Execution" popup to "Run Service in the Background".
Select the "Return Output" and "No Shell" radio buttons.
5. Click the "Save" button.
Now, when you type "0" (actually, from any application), your
signature will be added wherever your cursor is located (be careful
not to have text selected as it will replace the selected text with
your signature). I have found this to be very convenient for adding my
.sig to outgoing mail.
4.12 How can I quickly find a file if I don't know its directory?
searching, files find
The Unix find command on the NeXT has the capability of quickly
searching a database of all the files. This database is located in
/etc/find.codes and has to be generated periodically. You can
automatically generate this database, say twice a week at 3:15 a.m.,
by adding this line to your file /etc/crontab.local (you might have to
create this file).
15 03 * * 2,5 root /usr/lib/find/updatedb > /usr/adm/updatedb.err
After this has run, you can quickly find any file from a terminal by
typing find where is a part of the file name you want (it is
case-sensitive).
[Carl Edman ] adds:
Find still works under 3.0, but now has to match the entire filename
(including the path) for a match to be recognized i.e. where under 2.x
you would have find foobar, under 3.0 you have find '*foobar*' (The '
are necessary to prevent the shell from expanding the wildcards
itself).
[From: Geert Jan van Oldenborgh ]
I find the following script in /usr/local/bin very handy to bring back
the behavior that God Intended find to have:
#!/bin/csh
if ( $#argv == 1 ) then
/usr/bin/find \*$1\*
else
set noglob
/usr/bin/find $argv[1-]
unset noglob
endif
4.13 Mail.app suddenly stopped working!
Mail, doesn't start
When I double-click the Mail.app icon it loads and seems to start but
then just terminates. How can I fix this ?
Usually the problem is caused by Mail.app being terminated with
extreme prejudice such as by a power outage or kill -9. Under those
circumstances Mail.app may leave a lock file in your active mailbox.
Due to a bug 3.0 Mail.app doesn't ask for permission to override this
lock when started up again but just dies. Open a shell and look in
/Mailboxes/Active.mbox. If this directory contains a file called .lock
you have found the culprit. You can safely remove this file.
4.14 Recycler doesn't work anymore?!
Recycler
For some reason, after moving my home directory, my recycler no longer
works?
[From: eric%basilisk@src.honeywell.com (Eric D. Engstrom)]
Basically, when you dump a file in the recycler, the workspace manager
(attempts) to move it to one of the following locations:
(note: no order implied here, because I'm unsure of the actual order
used)
- $HOME/.NeXT/.NextTrash
(Should always exist; unsure what happens if it doesn't)
- /tmp/.NextTrash_$USER
Automatically created if non-existent)
- $MNT-POINT/.NextTrash/$USER
(.NextTrash NOT automatically created if non-existent)
Also, the workspace requires that the trash directory into which it
puts the to-be-deleted file be on the same disk partition that the
file originally came from (for speed, I assume).
Also, an example of the permissions for the external disk .NextTrash
directory (which is not automatically created) should be :
ls -aldg /private/mnt2/local/.NextTrash
drwxrwxrwt [...] /private/mnt2/local/.NextTrash/
Note: /private/mnt2/local is the mount point. Do chmod 1777 .NextTrash
to get the permissions right.
Thus, if you moved your home directory from one partition to another,
the one you left may not have a "recycler-repository" to use.
4.15 How to hear sound from CDPlayer.app thought NEXTSTEP system?
digital audio CDPlayer
To hear sound, the following info is important.
[Carl Edman ]
Hearing the sound directly on the NeXT can be done with the play3401
program from the archives if you have a Toshiba 3401 series drive.
Theoretically this can also be done with NEC [78]4-1s and Apple CD
300s, though I know of no NeXT program which supports them. Most other
drives (including the NeXT CD-ROM) just don't have the hardware to do
it.
There is another player available: CD_evil, which is based on play3401
but offers a GUI.
FAQ-Authors note: On Intel system it's very easy: just connect the
CD-Audio out (internal) to your CD-in of the soundcard (internal).
Anyway there are problems with different drives. E.g. we know, that
the Toshiba, Sony and Nec drives currently use the same instruction
set to access audio data. So be aware that there are drives which
simply can't be accessed through CDPlayer.
4.16 How do I decompress a file with the extension .compressed?
.compressed compress uncompress gnutar tar gzip gunzip
Do this with the following methods.
[From: sanguish@digifix.com]
.compressed files have been compressed in the Workspace Manager.
Basically, they are just .tar.Z files. Even single files are tarred as
well as compressed. There are several methods of decompressing these
files.
1. They can be decompressed by selecting them in the Workspace, and
Selecting uncompress from the file menu.
2. They can be decompressed by selecting them in the Workspace, and
bringing up the Workspace Inspector. (You can double click to get
there faster)
3. You can rename them to be .tar.Z and handle them the way you do
them.
FAQ-Authors note: use uncompress to access the .Z files and/or gunzip
to access .z/.gz files. Use tar to access .tar files. You might also
you gnutar to access both together, e.g. to access a .tar.gz at once.
Read the man pages for more information.
4.17 How do I change the Workspace compression app?
compress gzip gunzip dwrites
Change it with the given method.
[Stephen Peters ]
You can change the tools that the Workspace uses to create and read
its .compressed files by issuing the following commands in a terminal
window:
dwrite Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip
dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip
dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress YES
[Reuven M. Lerner reuven@the-tech.mit.edu]
This is generally a good thing, except that people might follow your
advice and then try to send NeXTmail to someone who is still using
compress/uncompress. Changing Workspace/uncompress to gunzip isn't a
problem, since it uncompresses all sorts of files, but people should
be very careful not to change Workspace/compress to gzip unless they
will only be dealing with other gzip-equipped users.
4.18 console: loginwindow: netinfo problem - No such directory.
netinfo problem, /keyboard directory is missing. It's benign... but
annoying.
niutil -create . /keyboard
Fixed in 2.1 and up.
4.19 Root login not possible on client machine
root login
A number of people have complained about the situation where root can
log onto the configuration server, but not its clients. Login proceeds
normally, then a window with "Workspace error Internal error (signal
10)" pops up. Other users are not affected.
This scenario occurs with NetBooted clients that are not permitted
root access to / via the server's /etc/exports file, either via an
explicit root= option or (the most heinous) anon=0. For security
reasons many sites will NOT want to permit such access.
Note that what you're up against is only a Workspace Manager
misfeature; there's no problem logging in as root on the real UNIX
console, or logging in as a non-root user and then using "su" to
obtain root privileges.
Root access is needed to:
* Log in a root Workspace.
* Perform BuildDisk on a client.
* Run the GuidedTour demo for the first time subsequent invocations
will not autologin, but they will run just fine if you log in as
NextTour (no password).
It is not required to perform updates on the local NetInfo database,
for any normal user operations, nor to run programs requiring root
access on the server using -NXHost.
4.20 How to boot NEXTSTEP from the second (higher SCSI ID) HD?
Boot, from higher SCSI ID Boot, from second drive
Use the following command.
bsd(1,0,0) -a
which will then ask you for the drive to use as the root disk, or
still easier,
bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1
In the boot command the name of the bootfile can be replaced by '-'.
This is very useful as the length of the bootcommand which can be
stored in the permanent memory is very limited (on NeXT machines
only). So the only way to eg. increase the number of buffers
permanently to 128 in the boot command is to use the following boot
command: sd- nbu=128 (sdmach nbu=128 would have been too long).
4.21 How to make swapfile shrink to the normal size?
swapfile
The swapfile is located in /private/vm. The only current way to make
it shrink is to reboot the machine.
See the man pages for swaptab for more information. Note, that putting
a space after the comma in /etc/swaptab (lowat=,hiwat=) makes swapon
ignore the hiwat entry.
There is a short trick which seems to work for several people: type
exit in the login panel. This will exit the window server and restart
it immediatly. If you are lucky, this will reclaim some space.
4.22 Does netinfo work between machines running NEXTSTEP 2.x and 3.x?
netinfo
Yes.
4.23 Why does the console user "own" the external disk filesystem?
filesystem, external
You need an entry in /etc/fstab so the disk will be mounted at boot
time, rather than being "automounted" when somebody logs in.
Automounted disks are owned by whoever logged in, fstab-mounted disks
are owned by root. Something like this:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /Disk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
(assuming the external disk is to be mounted as /Disk)
fstab should be niloaded into the Netinfo database if it contains any
NFS mounts.
4.24 How to limit coredump sizes?
coredump, size limit
Limit it by the following command.
This will work for apps running from a shell.
limit coredumpsize 0
If your dock or workspace apps are dumping core, there's also:
dwrite Workspace CoreLimit <bytesize>
4.25 What is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup?
buffers, ROM
I know the ROM monitor only allows twelve characters, but I use
something like this:
bsd sdmach nbuf=xxx
(NeXT machines only) Enter the hardware monitor. Hit 'p' to adjust the
configuration parameters. It will respond: Boot command: ? Enter sd-
nbu=xxx, where xxx is a number less than 256.
4.26 How can I change the mouse pointer shape and color?
Maybe this could point you into the right direction. Pipe it to pft
and see what happens....
%!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 16 16
%%EndComments
0 0 16 16 Retained window
dup windowdeviceround
gsave
16 16 scale
16 16 4
[16 0 0 -16 0 16]
{<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>} false 3 alphaimage
grestore
gstate
nextdict /_NXSharedGrayAlpha get
NX_TwelveBitRGB 1 index setwindowdepthlimit
windowdeviceround
0 0 16 16 5 4 roll 0 32 Copy composite
nulldevice
termwindow
Maybe somebody wants to write some kind of "pointer editor"?
There is also a commercial application named 'MouseMagic' which
handles this and custom acceleration modes.
4.27 How do I customize BuildDisk to create a bootable disk of my own
configuration?
BuildDisk, customization The BuildDisk application is extremely
limited in terms of the types of disks configuration it knows how to
build. Essentially it "knows" about swapdisks, optical disks, 330 and
660 MB SCSI disks. If you wish to do custom configurations you should
look at existing BLD script files in /etc/BLD.* There is a script
which you can use to specify which BLD script you are using, which
disktab entry, and other useful parameters in /usr/etc/builddisk
Some things to note:
* the fstab installed on the target disk is specified in the
newclient command in the BLD script. standard fstabs are extracted
from /usr/template/client/fstab.*
* the BLD scripts do not put down a new boot block on the scsi disk,
you may want to install one by hand using the /usr/etc/disk
program.
* some disks boot fine but NeXTstep comes up with a blank window and
no login window. This is due sometimes to forgetting to install an
accessible /NextLibrary/{Fonts,Sounds}. In general you need quite
a lot of things to make a bootable disk.
You can build a minimally usable bootable floppy (for crash recovery
purposes). There is a modified version of builddisk (to make it
support building floppies, a minimal change) and a BLD script to build
the boot floppy available at cs.orst.edu in
next/sources/Bootfloppy.tar.Z. (I put this together in response to
several requests.) A newer version of Bootfloppy for 2.1 is on the
archives as next/sources/util/Bootfloppy2.1.tar.Z. Also available from
the archives is BootFloopy 3.x (for --- you guessed it --- NEXTSTEP
3.x). I might also add that one can improve on disk usage while
enhancing functionality. BuildDisk (which is used by the various
BootFloppy scripts) just copies the standard binaries for ls, mv, cp
aso. from /bin. These binaries are statically linked as shipped by
NeXT which makes them huge. (e.g. /bin/ls is 106496 bytes large.
/usr/local/bin/gls with more features is just 16268 bytes). If you
replace these binaries by the BSD or GNU equivalents you can save
several hundred kBytes on your boot floppy. This extra diskspace can
be used for tar, dump and more tools which makes the boot floppy
actually usable. Tested.
4.28 Are there any more dwrites useful for the workspace, ...?
dwrite, misc
There a lot of dwrite useful for you. (self explanatory)
dwrite Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip
dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip
dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress Yes
dwrite Workspace DockOrginX (some number)
dwrite Workspace DockOrginY (some number)
dwrite Workspace DockOffsetX -1057 (leftmost)
dwrite Workspace DockOnTop (0 or 1 for true or false)
dwrite appname NXCMYKAdjust YES
dwrite Preferences 24HourClock yes
4.29 What is the @LongLink message from gnutar all about?
@LongLink gnutar
Because gnutar tries to be somewhat compatible to the old tar format,
it can't store pathnames longer than 100 chars. In order to store
files with longer names, it generates a special file entry containing
just the longer filename. These are the long links you see. Nothing to
worry about.
4.30 What stands the file .place3_0.wmd for?
.place3_0.wmd
The Workspace uses it to record the window attributes (sort order,
view type, icon positions and so on)
Switching the 'UNIX Expert' flag in UNIX Preferences panel off hides
all files which start by '.'.
4.31 How to create transparent icons with IconBuilder
IconBuilder icon, transparent
If you are repainting an icon on the filesystem e.g. .dir.tiff make a
copy and remove it first. Then reload the directory (the default icon
gets shown). This is needed because the system caches icons.
Now here comes how to create transparent backgrounds using
IconBuilder:
* Select Format->Document Layout (or New document layout)
* 'Has alpha' must be checkedus
* Open the color inspector
* UNcheck 'paint in overlay mode'
* Choose any color (I took white)
* Set Opacity to 0
* Use Paintbucket to fill the whole icon
* Now set Opacity back to 100
* Draw the icon
What 'Paint in overlay mode… does, is that when checked, it will use
both the alpha (opacity) of the existing pixel and the alpha selected
in the color inspector and combine both into a new color. When
unchecked the existing pixel will just be replaced with one using
color and alpha as selected in the inspector.
4.32 How to access the MAC format of a mixed DOS/MAC CD-ROM
Mac DOS CD-ROM
Some CD-ROMs are using multiple fileformats to adress more people.
This is done by putting two filesystems on the disk. With NEXTSTEP you
are able to acess both. But what to do if the Workspace only shows you
the DOS side of a disk, while the Mac side is often more convenient
(due to e.g. long filenames).
The solution is to change the priority the system is searching for a
usable filesystem. You need to rearange the filesystems in
/usr/filesystems to fit your needs. Here is how:
* ls -lR /usr/filesystems shows the actual searching queue.
* mv /usr/filesystems /tmp/filesystems to backup things
* mkdir /usr/filesystems recreate the directory.
* cp -p -r /tmp/filesystems/xx /usr/filesystems copy the filesystems
in order of searching back to the default location.
* chmod 4755 /usr/filesystems/xx.fs/xx.util reset SUID mode
* reset the links in /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs/.
4.33 Is there a PPP for NEXTSTEP
PPP
There is a commercial PPP and a public domain PPP implementation.
For the public domain PPP there is an additional FAQ available at:
http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
The public domain PPP is based on the PPP-2.2 distribution. This
distribution offers several enhancements over ppp-2.1.2. Especially
noteworty is that it implements BSD packet compression. Using packet
compression can lead to higher throughput than you get using
compressing modems.
The port works on Motorola, Intel (both Mux and NeXT supplied serial
drivers), and HP systems running OS 3.2 and 3.3. It also works in
conjunction with Black and White's NXFAX software.
You may also want to join the mailing list for PPP. This will keep you
informed of new releases and will provide an arena for discussing
problems with the NeXT specific PPP port. To add yourself to the list
(or for any other administrative requests), send an email message to:
listproc@listproc.thoughtport.com requesting you be placed on the
list. Make sure to include your proper return email address. To send
mail to all the participants on the list, address your messages to:
nextppp@listproc.thoughtport.com
4.34 NIS and OpenStep
NIX lookupd
There's a new lookupd in OpenStep for Mach 4.0, which works a bit
differently than the old lookupd. The new lookupd has a number of
"agents" that do lookups from various information systems (NetInfo,
DNS, NIS, the Flat Files, and the internal cache). You can specify
which information sources should be consulted, and in what order. You
can also specify which information sources should be consulted for
different categories. There is documentation for all this in the file
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/ReleaseNotes/lookupd.rtf.
One change in NIS lookups is that a "+" in the /etc/passwd file does
not trigger a NIS lookup. If you want user lookups to consult both
/etc/passwd and the NIS passwd maps, you need to tell lookupd to use
both Flat File and NIS agents. For example, if you configure all this
in your root domain, you could set user lookups to use
Cache+NetInfo+Flat Files+NIS like this:
niutil -create / /locations/lookupd
niutil -create / /locations/lookupd/users
niutil -createprop / /locations/lookupd/users LookupOrder \
CacheAgent NIAgent FFAgent NISAgent
4.35 System overloaded due to swapping
Swapping CPU overload load
Several people discovered the problem, that their system get's
unusable due to swapping. This is extremely bad, because if this
swapping occurs, you can't even break the CPU load causing process,
because you can't even open a terminal window. There exists a
programmed solution to this problem.
Here it is! I should warn you that this will just kill the app --- it
will not give you a chance to save files, nor will it bring up a nice
panel asking if you really meant to do that. There is no warranty for
anything by using this code.
To use it, simple hold down alternate and right click on any window
owned by the application or its icon on the dock. This will not kill
some apps like Terminal because they run as root.
In order to install it, you will have to edit
/usr/lib/NextStep/windowpackage.ps. Make sure that you make a backup
of this file before editing it! It is owned by root, so not just
anyone can do this.
To apply the patch, search for a line stating: rmdownEvProc (the
procedure for processing right mouse button down events), and replace
it with the code named examples/windowpackage.patch in the FAQ
archive. For NS3.3 this code is located at line 1319.
Disclaimer: you should not attempt this if you do not know what you
are doing. You may be unable to log in (you will have to boot single
user to restore the windowpackage.ps) if you mess it up. You can kill
apps that you did not mean to kill. I cannot be responsible for what
happens!
Thanks to David Koski dkoski@cs.wisc.edu for supplying this code.
4.36 Swapfile issues
swapfile swap, speed swap, size
1. use 'mkfile' to generate the lowat file size of you swapfile. This
decreases the number of inodes used and keeps the permanent lowat
size defragmented.
2. on fast machines, compress the swapfile (only possible on the
primary file), on slow machines, disable compressing.
3. place the swapfile on the fastest hard disk drive you have. Use
'man swaptab' to learn more about configuring swap files.
4. to learn more about the never shrinking swapfile question, read
the NeXTanswers about it. http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/
5. if your swaptab ignores some options: be aware that options must
not contain spaces!
4.37 Garbage collection and Objective-C
garbage collection memory allocation
Note that Boehm's conservative garbage collector from
ftp://ftp.parc.xerox.com/pub/gc/ works great with Objective-C, so you
can use GC also with the other compilers.
That GC could be enhanced a little by taking advantage of the
Objective-C runtime type information; the hooks are there for it.
4.38 Setting up an anonymous FTP server
ftp server
Many people suggested just to read the online manual to ftpd. Probably
a good idea. Anyway I included a not tested script in the FAQ
distribution package which might be convinient for most people.
5 BLACK (NEXT) HARDWARE
5.1 What disk drives will work with the NeXT?
disk drives
There are some situations in which there are problems. Here is a short
list which might help you in your disk drive quest:
* These drives don't work with NeXT hardware: FUJITSU 2684SAU,
SEAGATE ST51080N, IBM IB06H8891
* The SCSI driver for NeXT hardware only accepts asynchronous data
transfer. Although every new SCSI-2 drive should support this
mode, this isn't true for certain drives. Also sometimes there is
a hardware switch (a little jumper on the drive) which switches
between synchronous and asynchronous mode. You definitly can only
use asynchronous disks!
* There are also problems with sync negotiation on NeXT hardware. In
general there should be another jumper to toggle this are you
might change this with an SCSI utility. There are also problems
with the tagged command queuing option. Anyway all these problem
can be solved. Often these problems arise with IBM drives. We
recommand to look in the technical documentation of the drive,
which is available only from IBM's WWW site directly.
Most SCSI disk drives will work without modifying /etc/disktab.
There are problems with the installation of boot blocks and badly
formed fstab generated by BuildDisk of NEXTSTEP 2.0. A disk connected
to the NeXT will need to have a NeXT specific label written to it
before it can be properly recognized by the system. If you get an
error message "Invalid Label..." this indicates that the drive was
successfully seen by the NeXT machine but it does not have the proper
label, to install a label use the /usr/etc/disk program on the raw
disk device that the system assigned to the device and use the label
command to write the label onto the disk. [how the NeXT assigns disk
devices is explained in the N&SA manual]
NEXTSTEP releases 2.0 and up provide a low level disk formatter,
sdform, which does not offer much flexibility, but gets the job done.
Most drives are already formatted at the factory. You might look for
the utility sdformat on the FTP sites as well, which overcomes some
problems of sdform supplied by NeXT.
5.2 Will a 68030 NeXT Computer run NEXTSTEP 3.3?
NS3.3 and 68030
Yes, but note that NeXTstep 3.3 is be optimized for the 68040 CPUs.
NeXTstep 1.0 and 2.x were optimized for the 68030 CPU, 68882 FPU
machines.
5.3 Does a FUJITSU MO (256 MB) works with NeXT original Hardware?
FUJITSU MO
Yes, they do
5.4 Can I run my SCSI-2 disks in synchronous mode?
SCSI-2, synchronous synchronous mode
Quick answer is: No. The reason is that the NeXT does not support
synchronous transfers from the SCSI bus. It does support SCSI-2 disks
running in asynchronous mode, which all SCSI-2 disks must do.
5.5 How do I configure my HP 660 to boot properly?
HP 660, boot boot, HP 660
It has been reported that HP drives fail to autoboot on power on or
while other devices are on the scsi bus. The problem seems to be with
drives configured to spin-up automatically on power on do not get
recognized at boot time. To remedy this problem reliably with HP 660Mb
(HP97548) and 1Gbyte (HP 97549) drives remove the auto spinup jumper
on the back of the drive. Looking at the disk from the back with the
power connector on the lower left, it is the sixth jumper.
The official fix was an EPROM change to the HP drive from HP. The HP
drives took too long to wait up, so the system wasn't happy with the
other drives coming ready first especially when the HP was suppose to
be the boot device. (The EPROM is no longer available from NeXT).
5.6 What is the procedure for installing a Fujitsu M2263SA/SB SCSI Disk as the
NeXT Boot Disk?
Fujitsu M2263SA/SB
See Izumi Ohzawa's note in /pub/next/docs/fujitsu.recipe available via
anonymous ftp from sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
5.7 How to mount a corrupted OD that won't automount?
OD, corrupt OD, mount
If you can't automount an OD, and you can't fix it, you can still
manually mount it. Log in as root. Type /usr/etc/mount /dev/od0a /FoO.
It will ask you to insert the disk. Insert it. It is mounted.
This method WILL mount a corrupted OD so you can read its contents.
Since it is corrupted, it is not recommended to write to it. You
should copy the important files to something else, then reformat it.
5.8 What non-NeXT CD Players that work with a NeXT?
CD-ROM, NeXT
A USENET survey summary:
Apple CD-150
PLI 1035N for NeXT
SUN CD-ROM drive (Sony CDU-8012, Rev. 3.1a)
NEC 73M and 74 (transfer rates > of 300 KB/sec.)
NEC 84 S
NEC 4xi
NEC 6x speed
Apple CD-SC (Sony 541-22 mechanism)
Apple CD-300
Apple CD-300+
Chinon CDS-431 (with new drivers)
Eclipse CD-ROM from Microtech
Toshiba 3201
Toshiba 3301
Toshiba 3401
Toshiba 3501
Toshiba TXM3301E1
Toshiba XM-2200A external
Toshiba XM3601
Plextor Quadspeed
Plextor PX-63CS (6xspeed)
DENON DRD-253 external (data only, no music)
HP's LaserROM drive (Toshiba XM-3301TA drive in HP's box)
Texel 3024 (required a firmware upgrade to version was 1.11)
As with all SCSI devices, they just work. Some drives only get
problems with their audio support with CD-Player (due to not
standardized SCSI audio commands, but this isn't a NeXT specific
problem!)
In contrary the question should be: are there SCSI CD-ROMs which don't
work together with NEXTSTEP?
5.9 What are some other sources of toner cartridges and trays for the NeXT
laser printer?
toner, NeXT printer
The toner cartridge is a standard EP-S cartridge, the same that fits
the HP LaserJet III and some other printers.
Any HP LaserJet II or III will fit. HPLJ4mSI cartridges do NOT fit.
Any HP LJII or LJIII paper tray will fit. IIISI and 4 trays will not.
Confused? Read again :-)
5.10 What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with a NeXT?
printers, on NeXT
If you plan to connect an HP LaserJet (II, IIP, III, etc.) you need to
make a special cable in order for the NeXT 040 and HP to get the
hardware handshaking correct. This is true for whatever version of the
OS you are running.
NeXT 68040 to HP LaserJet III Cable (not a Null-modem cable):
Mini-Din HP DB-25
1 (DTR) nc
2 (DCD) 4 (RTS)
3 (TXD) 3 (RXD)
4 (GND) 7 (GND)
5 (RXD) 2 (TXD)
6 (RTS) 5 (CTS)
7 (RTXC) nc
8 (CTS) 20 (DTR)
You may want to use hardware flow control for reliability (ie
/dev/ttyfa).
If you have problems with other printers, check the cable pinouts in
the printer's manual against the one recommended in the zs man-page!
Refer to Chapter 13 in Network and System Administration.
5.11 What can I do to prevent my NeXT printer from running all the time?
printer, turning off
The NeXT 400dpi printer powers up every time you boot up when the
print daemon is started (/usr/lib/NextPrinter/npd in /etc/rc). Apart
from not running the daemon at boot time (commenting it out and having
to run it by hand later), you can add the following lines to
/etc/rc.local:
if [ -f /usr/etc/nppower ]; then
sleep 3
/usr/etc/nppower off
(echo 'powering off NeXTprinter') >/dev/console
fi
Once you queue a print job the printer daemon will automatically power
up the NeXT printer for you. The printer daemon will not automatically
power off the machine after a print job, you will need to turn off the
printer by typing /usr/etc/nppower off.
5.12 What type of microphones will work with the NeXT?
microphone, NeXT
Some NeXT owners use the RadioShack (Realistic) Tie Clip Microphone
($19.95) cat 33-1052. NeXT Computer, Inc. uses the "Sony Electret
Condenser Microphone ECM-K7" in-house (available for $60). Some use
Sony Tie-Clip microphone, #ECM-144, which costs around $40. Others
have successfully used a WalMart brand microphone (available for $6).
5.13 How do I connect a modem to the NeXT?
modem, on NeXT
Previously, we suggested that people use Mac modem cables; however, it
has come to our attention that there is no one standard Mac modem
cable.
Since correct modem operation on a NeXT depends upon a correctly wired
modem cable, buying a Mac cable is not a good idea. Some Mac cables do
not allow dial-in and no Mac cable allows the use of hardware flow
control. For these reasons, we are recommending that only cables that
meet NeXT specifications be used. [however, if you have a Mac modem
cable lying around and don't care about dial-in or hardware flow
control, then by all means....]
These cables are available commercially from any store, how still
sells NeXT stuff, and from Computer Cables and Devices, or can be
custom built. Note that no off- the-shelf Mac cable will allow
hardware flow control. It is however possible to make a such a cable
from an Imagewriter II cable by replacing one of the mini-8 ends with
a DB-25 connector.
Hardware flow control is absolutely essential for all serial port
connections with speeds of 9600 bps and above. Make certain that you
cable supports it, your modem is configured to use it and you are
using the hardware flowcontrol devices /dev/cuf[ab], /dev/ttydf[ab]
and /dev/ttyf[ab], respectively.
Most people use tip or kermit to control the modem. SLIP and/or UUCP
may also be used (but are more complicated to set up and require the
remote machine to also have SLIP and/or UUCP (respectively)).
A version of the DOS-program pcomm can be found on
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
The 2.0 Network and System Administration Manual, which is available
in hard-copy (shipped with each machine) contains an extensive
description of how to use modems with the NeXT machine. Additionally
NeXT in their TechSupportNotes series called SerialPortDoc.wn and UUCP
for 1.0/1.0a systems . This document is available from most FTP sites
that carry NextAnswers. Also, try to obtain the about.modem.Z file by
Mark Adler in the pub/next/lore directory on sonata.cc.purdue.edu
5.14 Are there any alternative sources for the SCSI-II to SCSI-I cable required
to attach external SCSI devices to the 040 NeXTs?
SCSI cable to NeXT
Yes. This cable is the same as the one used by Sun SparcStations and
DecStation 5000's (but not DecStation 3100's which use 68-pin micro
rather than the 50pin micro connector used on NeXT 040, Suns and
DecStation 5000).
The implication that a Sun SparcStation cable can be used with NeXT
peripherals is generally false. NeXT themselves, and DEC, and nearly
everyone else who makes SCSI peripherals, puts Telco-50 (centronics)
connectors on their devices. Sun in their infinite wisdom uses DD50
which are quite different. Telco-50 is an approved connector type in
the SCSI spec.
Probably the original point was that the 50-pin microSCSI on the NeXT
and Sun and some DecStations was different from the 68-pin microSCSI
on the DecStation 5000. But this does not address the other end of the
cable.
5.15 What fax modems will work with the NeXT?
fax modem, on NeXT
Most available modems of today, don't work for with the general fax
driver available with NEXTSTEP. In this case you need to perchuse a
commercial solution: 'NXFax'. There are demos available. The following
information is pretty much old, and might probably be obsolete now:
The following fax modems are currently available for the NeXT
Computer:
Manufacturer, Model Supplier, Type
DoveFax for NeXT, Dove Computer, Class 1
HSD FaxMaster, HSD Microcomputer, Class 2*
mix fax, i·link GmbH, Class 2**
SupraFAXModem V.32bis, Supra Corp., Class 2
(requires DFax driver or NXFax driver)
ZyXEL U-1496E/E+/S/S+, ZyXEL USA, Class 2
(requires NXFax driver)
Telebit T3000 with fax option
Telebit WorldBlazer with fax option
(requires NXFax driver)
Neuron 1414/1414+ with ZyXEL ROM upgrade
(requires NXFax driver)
(Neuron 1414 and Neuron 1414+ modems are relabelled ZyXEL modems.
Contact ZyXEL USA for ROM upgrades. Neuron modems with 512K ROMs
should upgrade their ROMs and ROM sockets to 1 Mb ROMs. People with
1Mb ROMs should just order the new ROMs.)
(*) Note that the Class 2 is not yet approved; it is still out for
ballot, after having failed in an October 1990 round. The Abaton
InterFax 24/96 NX driver supports Class 2 as it was in that draft;
there are expected to be very few changes prior to approval.
(**) Note that mix fax works with both the October 1990 and October
1991 draft versions of Class 2, especially with the NeXT supplied
Class 2 modem driver. Upgrading to an approved version of Class 2
would be a matter of just a software update (holds true for any
forthcoming (class 3?) standard, for that matter).
In order to use a fax modem with the NeXT Computer, a NeXT compatible
fax driver must be available to operate the modem. Modem control
procedures may be proprietary or conform to one of the following
EIA/TIA standards:
Class 1: CCITT T.30 session management and CCITT T.4 image data
handling are controlled by the driver.
Class 2*: CCITT T.30 session management and image data transport are
handled by the modem. CCITT T.4 image data preparation and
interpretation are controlled by the driver.
Release 2.0 of the NeXT system software includes a Class 2 modem
driver which will work with any fax modem which meets the EIA/TIA
Asynchronous Facsimile Control standard. Other fax modems must supply
a NeXT compatible driver.
Note that there's a small bug in 2.0 (fixed in 2.1): a symbolic link
is missing for the file Class2_Fax_Modem_Driver in
/usr/lib/NextPrinter. The simple fix: create the link; it should
reference Interfax_Fax_Modem_Driver, also in the /usr/lib/NextPrinter
directory.
An alternative workaround for Class 2, especially useful for novices:
just use InterFax as the modem type in PrintManager, rather than Class
2*.
After installing a fax modem using PrintManager one must repeat
setting things in the Fax Options panel in order for them to be stored
correctly. In particular, these include the Rings to Answer and Number
of Times to Retry. This affects all fax modems being installed.
If one uses illegal characters in the Modems Number field in the Fax
Options when configuring an InterFax modem then the modem will not
answer the phone. Legal characters are digits, spaces, and plus signs.
This does not affect the Dove modem.
Modems from the german vendor Dr. Neuhaus also work with the internal
Fax-Driver. But only the FURY-series does.
5.16 How may I attach more than two serial ports to the NeXT?
serial port, >2 on NeXT
TTYDSP From Yrrid converts the DSP port into an additional serial
port.
Yrrid Incorporated
507 Monroe St.
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
Voice: 919-968-7858
Fax: 919-968-7856
E-mail: yrrid@world.std.com
Unitnet has a device, the SLAT, that will connect to the scsi bus.
Uninet Peripherals, Inc.
Voice: 714-263-4222
Fax: 714-263-4299
Central Data Corporation made the scsiTerminal Server family of
products. However they stopped supporting NeXT hardwer. We are told
that Central Data may consider the solling or giving of the driver
source to an interested party.
Phone: 217/359-8010
Toll-free: 800/482-0315
FAX: 217-359-6904
Email: info@cd.com
support@cd.com
sales@cd.com
Also, one can use an IP terminal server. In a non-Internet
environment, inexpensive terminal servers, which don't control access
to the network securely, can be used. If your network is an Internet
subnet, you must use a terminal server that controls either: (1) who
can log into the terminal server, or (2) which machines the terminal
server will access. These tend to be more expensive (around $250/port,
but in 8-port increments), but it may be quite economical means of
sharing ports among many NeXTs (or other computers) on the network.
Particularly if one has a NeXT network, an Ethernet terminal server
may be the way to go. One that supports Linemode Telnet (such as the
Xylogics Annex III) will offer the best performance.
5.17 What is the best and/or cheapest way to connect a NeXT to a thick
Ethernet?
Ethernet, thick There are many possible solutions. For example, here
are three:
* The University of Waterloo (Audio Research Group) uses an old
door-stop PC XT clone with two Western Digital cards (WD8003E
Ethercard Plus, $250 CDN each; you should be able to get them for
under $200 (US$)) running Vance Morrison's PCRoute (available from
accuvax.nwu.edu). You will also need a thickwire transceiver and a
drop cable (about $300). In addition, you will need Internet
addresses for the NeXT and both PC Ethernet cards (and a subnet
address). The documentation for PCRoute contains quite a bit of
information on the performance of this setup. This solution
requires two subnets. There is another program called PCbridge
that allows the machines on the thin and thick wires to be part of
the same subnet. This product also does packet filtering, so that
packets destined to machines on the same side of the net do not
cross over.
* Cabletron sells a MR-2000C Singleport Repeater for $695 that does
exactly what you need minus drop cable and transceiver. Their
number is (408) 441-9900.
* The march 1992 INMAC networking and connectivity products catalog
lists thicknet to thinnet converters. Product number Z903071 price
$445. Claims full ieee 802.3 compatibility and diagnostic LED's.
* NuData (908)-842-5757 (USA) sells AUI10 base-T boxes for about
$149.
5.18 How can I connect my NeXT to the telephone line and use it like an
answering Machine?
answering machine A company that is selling both hardware and software
to allow you to do this:
SES Computing
13206 Jenner Lane
Austin, Texas 78729
Voice: (512) 219-9468 (Demo system number)
i.link, a european company, has a combined data/fax modem and
telephone answering machine. It uses the DSP port and is implemented
mainly in software on the DSP with a little bit of hardware to
interface to the phone line.
i.link GmbH
Nollendorfstrasse 11-12
D-1000 Berlin 30
Germany
Tel: +49 30 216 20 48
Fax: +49 30 215 82 74
E-mail: info@ilink.de
5.19 What color monitors can I use with the Color NeXT machines?
monitor, color
The important specs for the color monitor are:
Horz Scan Rate: 61 KHz
Vertical Scan Rate: 68 Hz
Resolution: 1280x1024 (NeXT uses 1120x832)
NON-INTERLACED
Displays may require alignment to adjust for the scan rate of NeXT
machines.
The Nanao T560i 17" color display has been used with NeXTstation Color
machines, and seems to work well.
Some larger NEC displays have also worked.
5.20 Where can I get 13W3 to BNC adapters to connect third party color
monitors?
13W3 to BNC BNC to 13W3
You can get them from:NeXT/Bell Atlantic: part number S4025.
NuData in New Jersey carries 13W3 female to 4 BNC male connectors. The
price is about $100.
NuData
Voice: 908-842-5757
DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibility for the following. If you can
source the bits yourself here's how it's built.
1 female 13W3 connector
3 Male BNC connectors
3 mini coax
ie. the pins to the coaxial are male and the regular pins are female.
Looks like this.
. o o o o o . . 13W3 FEMALE
A1 o o o o o A2 A3
| | |
| | |
| | |
Red Green Blue 3 BNC's
That's the coax part. The outer shielding of the coax's are grounded
on both pin 10 and the case.
5.21 How may I attach Centronics or 16 bit wide parallel ports to the NeXT?
centronics, NeXT parallel port, NeXT
Uninet has devices, the SLAT-2 and the SLAT-DRV11, that will connect
to the scsi bus.
Uninet Peripherals, Inc.
Voice: 714-263-4222
Fax: 714-263-4299
zardoz!sales@ics.uci.edu or uunet!ucivax!zardoz!sales
5.22 Why does an unused serial port consume cpu?
serial port, cpu power usage
Perhaps you've got a (probably fairly long) unshielded serial cable
attached to it, with either nothing at the other end or a powered-off
device at the other end. EE's call this an antenna. It's probably
picking up most of the radio stations in your area, which the serial
chip is interpreting as a continuous stream of garbage bytes, which it
feeds to getty, which tries to interpret them as login attempts.
How do you avoid this problem?
* leave the device at the other end switched on (even when it's not
transmitting, it will assert a voltage that overrides the noise)
* unplug the cable from the next when you're not using it
* use 'kill -STOP' & 'kill -CONT' to stop and resume the getty
process as needed
* buy an adequately shielded serial cable
5.23 How to adjust MegaPixel Display brightness and focus?
brightness, MegaPixel focus, MegaPixel
Adjust it using the following information.
From: Charles William Swiger
I have adjusted several monitors with no problems, but make sure you
know what you are doing before opening anything. I expressly disclaim
responsibility for any ill results that may occur.
In order to adjust NeXT's MegaPixel display (called 'the monitor'
hereafter), you'll need (a) the NeXTtool (or a 3mm Allen wrench), (b)
a plastic adjustment tool (preferred) or a thin bladed screwdriver,
and possibly (c) a Phillips-head screwdriver.
(NB: A similar procedure will work for color monitors, but you should
either know what you're doing or you'll probably be better off letting
a pro deal with it.)
Turn off the computer. Disconnect all cables to the monitor. Look at
the back of the monitor. There will be 4 screws there; use the
NeXTtool (or Allen wrench) to remove them. Remove the plastic back of
the monitor and put it out of your way.
Reconnect the cables and turn the computer back on. As the machine
powers up, examine the back of the monitor. You'll see a metallic box
(usually silver, though some are black) surrounding the monitor's
vitals. This protects you against the dangerous voltages inside, and
also insulates the monitor from electromagnetic noise. On the back of
this box are several holes for performing adjustments. There are two
focus controls (labeled 'focus' and 'dynamic focus'), a brightness
control (labeled 'brightness' or possibly 'black level') and several
others that adjust various things like screen size and position.
Depending on the exact placement of the controls on the circuit board
of your specific monitor, some of these controls may be difficult (or
impossible) to adjust from the back. If this is the case, I will
describe what's necessary below. Otherwise, adjust the appropriate
controls using either an adjustment tool or a screwdriver. Be warned
that a screwdriver probably will cause some interesting video effects
when it enters the case. Ignore this the best you can, or find a
plastic adjustment tool, which is what you *really* should be using
anyway. Using a flashlight will help you see into the hole so that you
can align the business end of the tool correctly.
Focus and position controls are fairly obvious. Adjust them slowly
until you're happy with the results. Don't muck with anything you
don't need to; the factory settings are usually pretty decent.
To correctly adjust the brightness, follow this procedure: Turn the
brightness of the monitor all the way down using the keyboard. Adjust
the brightness control on the back of the monitor until a barely
noticeable picture forms. Then turn the brightness down a little so
this picture disappears completely. Check that you can get adequate
brightness by using the keyboard to brighten the screen. If the
display isn't bright enough, adjust the brightness control on the rear
of the monitor high enough so that the monitor display is adequate.
Note that you won't be able to dim the screen completely from the
keyboard...sorry.
Once you're finished, shut down the computer, take off the cables,
reattach the back of the monitor, and reconnect the cables. You're
done.
If the control you need to adjust proves to be difficult, you may need
to enter the metal case. This happened on one monitor's focus control
and another's brightness.
WARNING: THE VOLTAGES INSIDE THE MONITOR'S CASE ARE VERY DANGEROUS,
EVEN WHEN THE MONITOR IS OFF. BE VERY CAREFUL, OR YOU CAN SERIOUSLY
INJURE OR EVEN KILL YOURSELF.
DO NOT PERFORM THE NEXT INSTRUCTIONS UNLESS YOU ARE CONFIDENT THAT YOU
KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. You'll have to power off the computer again,
and disconnect the cables.
Looking at the monitor from the back, notice a section of metallic
shielding on the right side of the metal box that extends to the
picture tube. This is where the flyback transformer is connected. It
shields a wire that is charged to about 25,000 V.
WARNING: DO NOT TOUCH THIS WIRE, IT CAN SHOCK YOU THROUGH ITS
INSULATION.
Being very careful of this, remove the metal case by unscrewing the
Philip's head screws that hold the case on. Don't touch the screws
that hold the picture tube into the front of the monitor's case.
Once you've gotten the metal box off, reconnect the cables. Figure out
what control you're going to adjust, and make sure that you can do so
without touching anything else inside. Again, *watch out* for the wire
that connects to the picture tube on the right side.
Power up the computer. I recommend that you use only one hand to make
the adjustment, and that your other hand be placed in your pocket (or
similar equivalent, if you're wearing clothes lacking pockets). This
precaution reduces the chances that you'll make a short circuit
between one hand, your heart, and the other hand --- a good idea.
Perform the necessary adjustment(s), being very careful not to touch
anything inside. Then shut down and reassemble the monitor, following
the directions given above.
Hopefully, these instructions will prove useful. Once again, please be
very careful...I don't want your death and/or injury on my conscience
(or a lawsuit, for that matter, either :-)
5.24 I want to emulate a macintosh, how?
MacIntosh, emulation emulation, MacIntosh
There is a nice way to run macintosh-software on your original black
hardware.
It works fine with dual-headed cubes and is optimized for the Apple OS
- Version 7.5. To get further information about daydream, please
contact:
QUIX Computerware AG
011-41-41-440-88-28
9 hour differential
Luzernerstr.10
6030 Ebikon
Switzerland
Next software - 011-41-41-34-86-80
quix@applelink.apple.com
There is another solution, completely in software: 'Executor' from
Ardi does the job, too. (http://www.ardi.com/
5.25 My NeXT laser printer fails to fully eject the sheet - how to fix?
printer, eject, NeXT laser NeXT laser, eject paper Fix it as follows.
If you continually get messages like, "sorry, the printer is jammed"
and you have to pull each page out the last inch, you probably need to
replace the 14 tooth gear in the output stage(fuse ass'y).
You can see this gear before you disassemble the printer, so that is a
good first step. Then read these instructions all the way through and
see if you want to attempt it. Next recommends replacing the entire
fuse ass'y ( big bucks) if the gear is damaged, but Chenesko, Inc., of
Ronkonkoma, NY sells the gears for $2.31. The part number is RS1-0132.
They recommended I also replace the 20 tooth gear, number RS1-0116,
but I don't know if it is really necessary. Their phone number is
800-221-3516.
PartsNow is also selling laserprint replacement parts. Their part
number for the a replacement roller part is RA1-84489-000 000. You
might contact them for further details.
To examine your gear, open the rear (delivery ) door and undo the
screw attaching the strap that keeps the door from opening down all
the way. The gear is on the side nearest the power input to the
printer.
There are two gears on the part of the delivery ass'y that swings
down. The suspect gear engages the top one, but is mounted on the
fixed portion of the fuse. Ours had several teeth missing and/or
damaged. To get the gear off you have to remove the fuse ass'y. To
remove the fuse you must open the printer lid fully, so it is straight
up. To open the lid fully you must remove the case. To remove the case
you must remove the plastic cover on the lid.
Are you getting the idea now? This will be a lot of fun, and take most
of the afternoon. I hope you have a spacious, well-lit area, because
there are a lot of screws, and a lot of them are painted black, so
they are hard to see when you drop them, unless you drop them inside
of the printer, where you might NEVER see them again.
Fortunately, as with all computer equipment, they seem to put lots of
extras in, so just make sure there aren't any where they might do
damage, like short out the mega KILOVOLT corona power supply, or grind
into the REGISTRATION rollers. You do want your printouts to be
straight, don't you?
So, if you're ready, here we go.
* PREPARATION Most mere mortals will want to power down everything
and disconnect the cables, etc. Remove the cartridge and paper
trays, etc.
* REMOVE THE LID COVER open the lid and remove 3 screws. They DO NOT
have any red paint on them.
* REMOVE THE BACK DOOR there is one screw that holds the strap. When
you can swing it clear down, you can squeeze the hinges together
and remove the door.
* REMOVE THE CASE There are maybe seven screws that hold the case
on. Four are right on top. Two are just inside the rear door area.
Two are down inside where you store that green cleaning tool. 4 +
2 + 2 = 7, right? Say, who was the last guy that worked on this
printer anyway?
The case has to be convinced that you really need to remove it,
even when it is loose and all the screws are out.
* REMOVE THE FUSE ASS'Y You will need a PHILLIPS screwdriver for
this, as with the previous steps. But you will need a LONG one
this time. Three of the screws are pretty easy to find. Just study
the lower part of the fuse, as it is screwed onto the bottom case.
Two of the screws are inside. One is under the lid next to the
gears, the other near the green cleaning tool. On the outside, in
back, there is one on each side. One is under the white wires that
connect the fuse to the 10 AMP circuit breaker, which is pretty
near that gear, and close to the power input. Unplug that cable.
Then remove the small black crew that holds the black plastic gear
cover so you will have better access to the last screw. Then you
will have to wrestle the fuse out the back of the printer. Be
careful with it.
* DISASSEMBLE THE FUSE There are several screws and a spring. It's
not too hard to take apart. You can see the gear, so you just have
to take off the covers on that end of the ass'y to get to it. I
should caution you that I had trouble putting them back on,
because they have funny shapes and don't make a lot of sense. Plus
I was tired, so I went home, ate dinner, played with the dog, went
to bed, got up and ate breakfast before I put it back together.
You might want to label some parts, make some drawings, etc. to
reassure yourself that you can put the parts back just like they
were.
* REMOVE THE GEAR You can remove the gear pretty easily with a small
screwdriver by unspringing the "E"-ring that holds it on the
shaft. Try not to bend the e-ring.
* PUT EVERYTHING BACK TOGETHER Sorry, I can't help you with this
part (HA HA!) I told you you should read the instructions first.
Maybe you should buy a new printer, or try to attach some third
party printer via the serial port!
Well, if you got this far I hope you dropped little crumbs of bread so
you can find your way back. I try to save all the little screws by
putting them back in the holes they came from, or putting them in some
small container. You might clean some of the gears or the paper path
while you have it open. You can also install a new OZONE filter.
Remember OZONE is hazardous to your health, so you don't want to
inhale it.
DISCLAIMER: BE CAREFUL IF YOU TRY THIS PROCEDURE. THERE ARE DANGEROUS
VOLTAGES PRESENT, AND EVEN IF YOU ARE TOO CHICKEN TO WORK ON IT
POWERED UP, YOU COULD CUT YOURSELF, OR DROP THE WHOLE THING ON YOUR
FOOT, THUS VOIDING THE WARRANTY. ALSO, THE PRINTER WONÂT WORK WITHOUT
THE COVERS, BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO SECRET SWITCHES THAT INFORM THE NEXT
CPU THAT SOMEONE "IS FOOLING AROUND WITH THE PRINTER AGAIN."
Yet another update to reflect that Jacob Gore received gears for an
Apple Laserwriter from Chenesko, which are similar enough to work, but
with some modification.Also, if the original gear is in fair
condition, it can be reversed on the shaft until a replacement is
ordered.
5.26 What are the NeXT mouse connections?
mouse, connector Read the following instruction.
Thanks to Alvin Austin (austin@cs.USask.Ca) I have the information I
need on the NeXT mouse connections.
Pin Function
1 +5v
2 X Encoder Phase A
3 X Encoder Phase B
4 Y Encoder Phase A
5 Y Encoder Phase B
6 Right Button
7 Left Button
8 Ground
5.27 What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
References: NeXTanswers' hardware.620, 92_spring_bulletin "Announcing
NeXTstation Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo"
NeXT Computer (68030-25MHz/68040-25MHz),
NeXTcube (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 16
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 30-pin low profile>
SIMM access rating: 100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB
The low-profile vertically mounted 4 MB SIMMs are easier to install in
the NeXTcube than the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs because of the
small height clearance above the SIMM slots. It is possible to install
the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs, but you will be required to slide
the CPU board and the center tower in simultaneously.
Parity (9-bit) SIMMs can be used in both 68030 and 68040 NeXT
machines, but should not be mixed with non-parity SIMMs. Only 68040
boards with ROM levels of 2.2 (v63) and higher can use the parity
memory to detect parity errors.
It is OK to mix parity and non-parity memory, but the system will not
boot unattended. Cubes with early boot ROMs will not work with 4 Mb
parity ram, unless at least 3 banks are used. The system gives an
exception error on power up. The fix is to get a new boot rom from
Next.
You can pay $30, or you may be able to squawk and get one for free. I
have found Next to be pretty responsive, once I find the right person.
The correct version is v66 which was the last or final rev for this
series of 040 boards. This version also fixed the problem in the
second paragraph.
NeXTdimension boards (i860):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4, 8 MB (256Kx32, 1Mx32, 2Mx32)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB (32 MB official NeXT)
NeXT didn't officially bless the use of 8 MB SIMMs, but they seem to
fit and work.
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers below ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 30-pin
SIMM access rating: 100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
Faster SIMMS (70/80 ns) don't make the memory system work any faster
than the 100 ns units.
NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns5
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Color Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers above ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 4
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 70/100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 ,8, 16, 32 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36,
1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 128 MB
For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns
will be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to
100 ns. Faster RAM than 70 ns won't give you a speed increase anymore.
In fact it could slow things down again, because some hardware drives
60 ns RAM as 100 ns RAM.
NeXT manufacturing introduced the new 25 MHz NeXTstation CPU board
into production in late June '92. To verify which SIMM type your
machine uses, check the system's memory configuration. You can do this
by using the ROM monitor©s print memory configuration command m. Start
with your machine powered down. Press the Power key to power on. As
soon as the message ªTesting system...º disappears, press
command-command-tilde ( on the numeric keyboard). Under these
circumstances, this will access the ROM monitor. In the ROM monitor,
type m and press return. Turbo-designed boardsÐincluding new 25 MHz
NeXTstations and all Turbo systemsÐwill return messages reporting the
memory configuration contained in four sockets (sockets 0 -3); old 25
MHz boards will return messages for more than four sockets (usually
8). You can tell a Turbo-designed board, and the accompanying 72 pin,
70 nanosecond SIMMs, by the fact it only reports information for only
four sockets.
The memory system has programmable memory timing such that the number
of processor clocks needed to access a given amount of data can be
tailored to the speed of the memory installed. 70 ns memory is just
enough faster than 80 ns memory to allow the cpu to access the data
with fewer clock cycles. This improves memory system performance.
"70 ns" memory is faster than "80 ns" memory in many parameters other
than just RAS access time. The faster CAS access time in particular
allows the memory system to respond quicker to burst (16 bytes) bus
transfers.
5.28 What is the NeXT SIMM tool?
SIMM Tool The tool came with 68040 upgrade kits for NeXTcubes.
It really makes removing SIMMs easy. It looks like a dental tool:
about six inches long with a 1/2" long head offset at 90 degrees. To
remove SIMMs, you slip the head into the hole on one side of the SIMM,
rest the head on the SIMM socket next to the SIMM you are pulling, and
pivot the tool back, using the simple fulcrum to gently pry the SIMM
up about 1/8" from the socket on that side. Repeat on the other side,
and the SIMM can be then removed by hand.
5.29 Where can I purchase a NeXT machine?
Purchase, NeXT NeXT, purchase
NeXT discontinued manufacturing hardware in Feb, 1993. Used systems
are often advertised in comp.sys.next.marketplace.
5.30 Where to obtain hardware service?
service, hardware hardware, service
Hardware service can be obtained through the following firms:
USA hardware service has been purchased by Bell Atlantic. They will be
supporting the Authorized Service Centers and are selling extended
warranty contracts.
Decision One
Voice: 800 499 6398, or 800 848 NeXT
Fax: 510 732 3078
For Europe, please contact:
SORBUS
40549 Duesseldorf
Willstaetter Strasze 13
5.31 What types of NeXT machines were manufactured?
NeXT, types of cube section
There are two packages: a cube, and a station.
* NeXTcube systems:
+ 68030-25 2-bit grayscale (NeXT Computer)
+ 68040-25 2-bit grayscale (NeXTcube)
+ 68040-33 2-bit grayscale (NeXTcube Turbo)
+ NeXTdimension board adds 32-bit color (i860) to any of above
systems
Cube systems can use any of the boards. With hacks, multiple
independent CPU boards can run in one cube.
NeXT Computer systems have room for 2 full-height 5.25" internal
devices with a wide slot for an Optical Disk drive(s) in either
position.
NeXTcube systems also have room for 2 full-height 5.25" internal
devices with a wide slot for an Optical Disk drive in the lower
position, but have additional mounting holes for 1/2-height
devices, and have a floppy slot at the top position.
* NeXTstation systems:
+ 68040-25 2-bit grayscale (NeXTstation)
+ 68040-33 2-bit grayscale (NeXTstation Turbo)
+ 68040-25 16-bit color (NeXTstation Color)
+ 68040-33 16-bit color (NeXTstation Color Turbo)
NeXTstation systems have room for two 1/2-height 3.5" devices, with a
floppy slot at the side.
5.32 What can be done about older 030 NeXT cubes that have a fan that turns in
the "wrong" direction?
fan, running wrong
The fan on older 030 NeXTs cubes sucks air out of the back of the cube
which means that it draws unfiltered air in through the optical disk
on the front of the cube. This causes optical disks to succumb to dust
must sooner than cubes with the new-style fan which turns in the
opposite direction.
NeXT has apparently reversed their decision regarding fan reversal in
the case of machines that have been upgraded to 040 processor boards.
It is now considered okay to reverse the direction of fans in these
machines. If you have many third-party cards installed in your cube or
an older processor board, you may wish to consider not reversing fan
direction (overheating could become a problem). In any case, do not
reverse the fan's polarity, only reverse the fan assembly itself.
Perhaps the best solution is obtain the cleaning kit and OD filter
from NeXT.
5.33 Can I connect SONY MPX-111N to my 68030 NeXT Computer?
SONY MPX-111N
The SONY MPX-111N internal 2.88 MB floppy drive which was shipped with
all the 68040 NeXT machines is not a SCSI device, therefore there is
no way of connecting that particular drive internally on a 68030
system.
5.34 Why does the OD continually spin up and spin down?
OD, spinning
A big problem with the Canon optical drives is that air flows through
the drive to cool it. Dust accumulates inside the drive causing it to
fail with the continuous spin-up spin-down syndrome. NeXT as part of
it's 040 upgrades provided a dust filter to prevent this. If your
drive has this problem it usually can be fixed simply by cleaning out
dust from the drive. NeXT sold a cleaning kit for both the drives and
the optical disks.
5.35 How many colors can NeXT machines display?
NeXT, colors
The monochrome machines can display 4 gray levels. You can use color
apps on a monochrome machine, they will converted into monochrome
images and dithered accordingly.
Color NeXTstations can combine 4 bits of red, green and blue primaries
for a total of 4096 pure colors. The imaging functions dither the
image to produce intermediate colors.
NeXTdimension can combine 8 bits of red, green and blue for
16,777,216. There are not 16 million points on the display so all can
not be displayed at once. Further display technology limits the usable
color space.
None of the NeXT products support color look up tables where the user
can define their own color palette on a per window basis. This feature
is useful for displaying images which have adaptive lookup tables, and
display pure grayscale images on the color NeXTstation. On the
NeXTdimension images can be converted to full 24 bit representation.
5.36 Why is my machine so slow when I run the monochrome and NeXTdimension
displays?
speed, display display, speed drops
There is a bug with the window system in which if you select the
monochrome display as your primary display the server will be much
much slower. The solution for those wishing to use both displays is to
select the color (NeXTdimension) display as the primary display. The
most optimal configuration at present with the NeXTdimension is to run
only the color display.
5.37 Where to obtain replacement mouse parts?
mouse, parts
From: jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
For those who have need of a new button in their mouse, and don't want
to pay for the whole mouse when it is only the button that has gone
bad, we have recently discovered a satisfactory replacement for the
Omron switch. It is in the Digikey catalog, # 931, Jan-Feb 1993, page
141, under Cherry switches D4, DG, and DH series. Digikey part #
CH164-ND, Cherry part # DG1C-B1AA. We ordered one of these, and just
received it today. Tried it out, and it seems to be working flawlessly
so far.
It is also possible to replace mouse buttons from a two button mouse
with mouse buttons of the three button mice.
5.38 Where to obtain extra batteries?
battery, purchase purchase, battery
Battery part number: BR 2/3A 3V Lithium Battery (Panasonic)
Source: Engineered Assemblies & Components Corporation
5204 Green's Dairy Road
Raleigh, NC 27604
Phone: 919-790-9700 (ask for Debra)
5.39 How to convert a Turbo system to use ADB?
ADB, turbo system
If ADB equipment are used with older NeXT systems they won't work
properly. Here are the ADB requirements:
* A Turbo computer.
* CPU eprom version 74.
* New revision computer to soundbox/monitor cable.
The part number is molded at both ends of the connector:
Cable NEW OLD (Non ADB)
NeXTcube 4534 150
NeXTstation 4535 1532
NeXTstation color 4536 2286
* New revision monitor which uses a vertical scan rate of 72hz
instead of 68hz, except on NeXTdimension systems color monitor
stays 68hz.
Monitor NEW (72hz) OLD (68hz)
17" mono ACX (N4000b) AAA (N4000a \& N4000)
17" color ADF (N4006) ABG (N4001)
21" color ADB (N4005a) ABH (N4005)
* ADB soundbox for color systems. S/N prefix ADD instead of ABN.
5.40 68030 board in the same NeXTcube as a 68040 board?
DISCLAIMER: THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE IS NOT SUPPORTED BY NEXT, INC.
AND WILL DEFINITELY VOID THE WARRANTY ON YOUR NEXT COMPUTER. FOLLOW IT
AT YOUR OWN RISK. I DISCLAIM ALL RESPONSIBILITIES FOR DAMAGES CAUSED
BY NEGLIGENCE IN FOLLOWING THE PROCEDURE. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT
THE PROCEDURE WILL WORK ON ALL VERSIONS(?) OF THE NEXT CUBE HARDWARE.
ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT WORKED ON THE NEXT CUBE I WAS WORKING ON!!!! SO
BEWARE.
Here we go! I'll first provide a description of the hardware I was
using and comment on what I accomplished and how I got the information
on how to do it!
The hardware included a NeXT cube with 660 MB drive, OD, etc., a 68040
upgrade board, and a 68030 motherboard. I successfully installed both
the 68040 and 68030 boards on a SINGLE NeXT cube and linked them
together through their ethernet ports. The 68040 was configured as a
boot server and the 68030 was used as its client (booting off the
network for lack of an additional hard drive).
The procedure reconfigures slot #2 on the cube's back-plane as slot
#0. This provides two slots configured as #0, required for booting the
two motherboards. Once I determined what the slot pin-outs were
(thanks to my good friend John Chmielewski), it was a matter of time
before the two boards happily co-existed.
The procedure:
1. First, follow the procedure on the NeXT User's Reference manual
for removing the system board (Appendix C: Opening the Cube, page
291 of the 2.0 manual).
2. Using the NeXT supplied screwdriver, remove the two screws that
attach the power-supply housing to the cube (the screws are
located on the lower part of the housing) and gently pull the
housing out. Set it aside in a safe place (away from kids and
nosey friends!)
3. Remove the two plastic grooved plates (used to slide the system
boards in) at each side of the inside bottom of the cube. (For
each plate, lift the side closest to the rear opening and gently
pull them out). Set them aside.
4. Using the NeXT tool, remove three screws holding the back-plane to
the cube and then take the back-plane out of the cube. Let the
cube rest for a while.
Inspect the back-plane. You will see five bus slots (four vertical
and one horizontal). The horizontal slot connects the back-plane
to the power supply housing. We're only interested in the four
vertical slots. From the factory these slots are configured as 6,
2, 0, and 4 (starting from the left and going right with the
horizontal slot at the bottom).
The system board connects to slot #0 (which you've probably
noticed). Each slot contains three columns of 32 pins. Following
is an ASCII representation of one of the slots:
x y z C B A
o-o o 32 . . .
o-o o 31 . . .
o-o o 30 . . .
o-o o 29 . . .
28 . . .
.
.
.
3 . . .
2 . . .
1 . . .
...where x, y, and z are labeled GND, SID, and VCC, respectively.
The GND, SID, and VCC "holes" are used to configure the slot
number using simple binary encoding, where GND is logical zero,
VCC is logical one, and SID (for Slot-ID I guess) determines the
current bit state (one or zero).
Notice the four rows of GND, SID, VCC triads; each row is
equivalent to one bit position in the slot number, the bottom row
bit position 0, the top row bit position 3. This gives a total of
four bit positions, or 16 possible slot numbers. To encode a slot
number, you need to connect an SID row to its corresponding GND or
VCC row. For example, the diagram below shows the configuration of
the slots in my cube's back-plane (you'll have to look very
closely to see the actual connections):
SLOT 6 SLOT 2 SLOT 0 SLOT 4
BIT 3: o-o o o-o o o-o o o-o o
BIT 2: o o-o o-o o o-o o o o-o
BIT 1: o o-o * o o-o * o-o o o-o o
BIT 0: o-o o o-o o o-o o o-o o
5. To reconfigure slot 2 as slot 0, cut the trace between SID and VCC
for bit position 1 (see * o o-o * above) and connect SID to GND on
the same row. I used the SIMM removal tool supplied by NeXT in the
040 upgrade (talk about multi-purpose) to cut the trace! Very
gently, scrape the solder off between the two holes. Take a
paperclip, shape it to fit between the holes in SID and GND, and
trim it down to an even 1/4 inch (perfect fit)!
That's all there is to it. If for some reason you ever want to
revert to slot 2, just remove the paperclip from GND-SID and
reconnect it to SID-VCC.
6. Now put the cube back together. First, re-install the back-plane
using its three connecting screws, then snap on the plastic
plates, and finally insert the power-supply housing and secure
with its two screws.
At this point the cube is ready to take on the two system boards
(it is up to you to determine where/how you want to use the two
boards; I'll explain how I used mine) ...
7. I installed the 68040 in the original slot 0 and the 68030 in the
reconfigured slot 0 (previously slot 2). The 68040 was used as the
main processor board. I connected the 660 MB drive, the OD, and
the monitor to it.
NOTE: Before beginning the procedure, I went into the NeXT Monitor
on the 68030 and disabled the Sound out, SCSI tests and verbose
test mode and enabled serial port A as a console terminal. I also
made "en" the default boot device. I setup the 68040 as a boot
server and taught it about the 68030 (which took some time in
getting it setup properly).
8. I connected the 68040 to the 68030 using a thin-ethernet cable and
I booted. First thing I noticed was that the 030 timed-out a
couple of times waiting for the 040 to tell it to boot. But after
the 040 was up, the 030 booted nicely.
That's all folks. Hope all this made some sense and people find it
useful.
Comments:
* To power off the cube, I have to first shutdown the 030 (I run
"halt -p" as root from a telnet connection and wait for the 030 to
go down), and I then power-down the 040. If you shut down the 040
before the 030, you'll have to pull the power plug to turn the
machine off. The cube will not power off if either of the two
boards is providing a load to the power-supply.
* Remember, I've only performed this procedure on one system. I do
not know what will happen on your system. So make sure you plan
ahead what your going to do and that you understand the procedure.
* I don't know what problems may arise when you add a board that
uses the NeXTbus, such as the NeXTdimension, or how it will
behave. If someone is courageous enough to perform the procedure
and installs another board, please post your results to the net.
Update:
To clear up some misunderstandings with the settings in the "p"
command of the NeXT monitor (these settings are only required for the
system board that doesn't have the NeXT display monitor connected):
1. Sound out test must be "no"; the boot process will not proceed if
the monitor isn't connected to the board and this is set to "yes"
(the sound out tests will fail, aborting the boot procedure).
2. SCSI tests should be "no" if you don't have SCSI devices attached
to the board (SCSI tests will fail otherwise, aborting the boot
procedure).
3. Verbose test mode must be "no" for booting from the network. If
set to "yes", the boot process will timeout waiting for a BOOTP
and you'll be left in the monitor with no means of restarting the
board (except pulling the power plug)!
This is probably true also for booting from an OD that hasn't been
inserted (assuming the OD was attached to the board).
4. Allow serial port A as alternate console if you want to view the
boot process (for problems and peace-of-mind).
5. Other settings were not modified from their factory defaults or
had no effect on the procedure.
There is also a way in using 2 boards plus NeXTDimension board in one
Cube.
I've run my "screw with the backplane trick" cube with :
| <empty> | 32MB-ND | | 64MB-040 | 40MB-030 |
without any problems. Using the od got the system warm, but never had
a problem. The cool part was having the printer on the 030. One day I
tried to dump an 040 into the 030 position, but I couldn't get it to
boot. I played for a couple minutes, but put the 030 back in and went
on with life...
5.41 How to expand DSP memory?
memory, DSP DSP, memory
The Speech Recognition Lab at San Francisco State University has
developed a DSP memory expansion board for the NeXT computer that
provides the maximum memory supported by the DSP56001 processor. We
are now offering this board to those whose are interested in
high-performance custom DSP development.
* The board is a 576KB DSP expansion memory board organized as three
non-overlapping 192KB banks: X-data, Y-data and Program. The board
uses relatively fast (
* The board is a high-quality, 4-layer board, open-circuit tested
prior to assembly. It fits into the DSP memory daughterboard slot
on all NeXT machines.
* The price will be $600. Please let us know if you are interested.
Delivery will be in about 3-4 weeks.
* Contact Tom Holton (th@ernie.sfsu.edu). E-mail is preferred. The
address is:
Tom Holton
Division of Engineering
San Francisco State University
1600 Holloway Avenue
San Francisco, CA 94132
415 338 1529 (phone)
415 338 0525 (fax)
NOTE: Because we've organized our memory as three separate
(non-overlapping) banks (X, Y and P) of 192KB apiece, none of the
DSP memory image functionality provided by NeXT with its existing
8K base configuration, or its 96KB DSP expansion module is
supported. While we cannot guarantee that every existing DSP
application ever written will be plug-and-play compatible with our
DSP expansion memory, we are not aware of any existing
applications that use the image functionality. The MusicKit, and
demo programs that use the DSP, such as Mandlebrot and
ScorePlayer, work fine with our memory module.
5.42 How to boot a NeXT without a monitor?
The procedure is to just touch pins 6 and GND on the DB-19 NeXT
monitor out with a 470 Ohm resistor (450 is the actual resistance, but
470 ohms is more commonly found in resistors). Pin 6 is the power
sense, and pins 13-19 (and the DB shell) are the GND. Just say "pin
19", it may be easier.
There's a pinout diagram of the DB-19 in the NeXT Users Reference
Manual.
If you have an old Cube, the power supply needs to have more power
drawn from it than an 030 (and 040?) board uses to stay on. So: On the
DB-19, attach a Power Resistor (20 Ohm, at least 20 Watt) between pins
12 and GND. (Pin 12 is -12V, pin 13 works well for GND). Then just
"touch" the 470 ohm resistor as described above, and you're set. The
20 Ohm resistor draws an old 030 running without monitor in an old
CUBE), but it isn't necessary - just don't touch it (*HOT!* ;-)
To power off, type "halt -p" as root on the machine (either through a
terminal connected to port A, or over the ethernet connection).
Also, you have to have the Rom Monitor settings done correctly. The
important ones are:
Wait until keypress? N
Sound out tests? N
Port A as alternate Console? Y (if you have one, it's nice)
Verbose mode? N (I think this may need to be N to work, don't r
emember).
5.43 Where can I get black spray paint for my NeXT?
Black, spray paint paint, black spray You can get black spray from the
following address.
Sprayon Paint
Omni-Packblend
4Next-Black (icon black)
LAV-16
25216
Call 1-800-777-2966 for the name of a dealer near you.
5.44 What makes aged NeXT monitors dim?
monitor, dim
The cause of the dimming monitors is the CRT cathode wearing out. The
most common type of CRT (and the type used in most NeXT monochrome
monitors and all of the NeXT color monitors) uses what is called an
oxide cathode. A thin coating of oxide is deposited on the cathode to
allow the electronics which form the picture to get off the cathode
easily. The oxide gradually boils off the cathode itself, and when the
oxide is gone, the CRT goes dim.
Typically, the oxide will last from 10,000 to 20,000 power on hours
(screen savers don't help the cathode, they only prevent phosphor
aging). Unfortunately, the black monochrome monitors fall into the
short end of the life range thanks to Toshiba who made the CRT's. The
aging is more noticeable in Unix machines because they tend to be left
on. Note that there are about 8,000 hours in a year. If you leave your
monitor on all the time, all oxide type CRTs will be dim in three
years.
The other type of CRT cathode is the I-cathode or dispenser type. This
type of cathode is porous and continually brings new activation
material to the surface. Its lifetime is 40,000 hours or more. The
last of the NeXT monochrome monitors (N4000B) used this type of CRT
and they don't go dim. There aren't many of that type around because
NeXT quit the hardware business after producing only a few thousand.
If you can get an N4000B monitor, you won't ever have to worry about a
dim monitor.
Many manufacturers are going to dispenser cathode type CRTs in their
monitors with Panasonic leading the way. The best advice is to turn
off the monitor when not in use. If that is impractical, try to
purchase one with the long life cathode.
Spherical Solutions (smg@orb.com) has a supply of new N4000B long life
monitors for sale in either ADB or non-ADB configurations. If you need
to repair or replace a monochrome monitor, that is by far the best
type to use.
If you read this far, you probably know more than you ever wanted to
about CRT aging, but I hope this helps.
5.45 How to use two internal hard drives
drives, two internal
It is possible to fit a second internal hard drive in a NeXT slab, in
addition to the floppy drive and the first hard drive. The second
drive must be third height, or 1 inch high. There is no room for a
half height device. Buy a bracket or make one out
of sheet metal for the 1 inch high drive. On 25 MHz mono stations the
SIMMs are smaller and the drive doesn't have to go all the way against
the back wall. In this case, glue the bracket to the underside of the
NextStation cover, centered from side t
o side and as far to the back as possible. This is sufficient. On 25
MHz colorstations, however, one must file away a bit of the interior
metal on the cover in order to glue the bracket fully to the rear of
the cover. Once this modification is done, th
e drive will clear the RAM when the cover is closed. Screw the drive
into the bracket, with the power and SCSI plugs toward the right hand
side of the NextStation so that the cables will reach. Go to your
favorite computer store and get both a "dual int
ernal SCSI bus cable" and a "dual internal SCSI power cable." Plug in
the cables to both internal hard drives and close the cover.
This was verified on both a 25 MHz mono and a 25 MHz color
NextStation. No power or heating problems occurred.
6 WHITE (INTEL) HARDWARE
6.1 What about support for NeXT Computer specific hardware features such as the
DSP?
support, specific DSP, support support, DSP NeXT computers offer
additional hardware support not commonly available for Intel systems.
This includes the DSP. The DSP in a NeXT Computer is used for a
variety of functions including ISDN support and real-time audio
compression/de-compression. ISDN support for NEXTSTEP/Intel will be
provided via an add-on PC card and ISDN adapter.
Although the DSP programming feature is missing for NS3.3 on Intel, it
is not necessary. The important SoundKit functions are rewritten to
emulate an DSP on Intel, but this costs a lot of CPU time.
6.2 Do Multi-Architecture Binaries take a lot of extra disk space?
MAB, disk space multi application binary, MAB
The concept of NEXTSTEP binaries is different to other platforms. On
NEXTSTEP only the real program is compiled and linked in a hardware
specific manner. E.g. the GUI and the multilanguage support are usable
on any platform running NEXTSTEP and will do so under OPENSTEP.
Therefore the real binary part is sometimes really small.
Anyway it might be a good choice to thin such a fat binary. NeXT ships
tools for this purpose. Look at the manpages for lipo.
If an application wasn't installed using the standard NeXT tool
Installer, it might also be a good choice to look into the application
drawer and delete other languages supported but not used by the
application. This additional data is found in the different *.lproj
subdirectories in the application's folder. To get there, activate the
application's icon and select Open as directory from the Workspace's
File menu item.
6.3 How difficult is it to recompile existing NeXT applications over to
NEXTSTEP/Intel?
compile, re
Very easy. Most programs will simply recompile and run, or require few
changes. We believe that any application that uses the standard
development environment and Object kits provided by NeXT should simply
compile and run. Only applications that use architecture specific
features or data formats, will require additional time to port.
Several developers have already ported applications to NEXTSTEP/Intel.
Appsoft Draw simply recompiled and ran, Lighthouse Concurrence took 3
hours, other programs took 1/2 a day to 2 days, and this was all on a
very early release of NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.1!
Some applications just will refuse to compile, because they are still
based on the old 2.0 headers etc. These applications are really rare
now and may get ported very easily too, by changing the include path
in your developer package.
Other applications require additional header files and libraries to
properly compile and link. These applications are mostly based on the
MiscKit or MusicKit and other PD-Kits. You need to install these Kits
first to compile these programs.
With the shipping of OpenStep this might change, because it will be
possible to produce shared libraries with the NeXT Developer package.
This will enable you to not install the complete Kit, but only the
shared library and will also reduce your binary noticeable.
6.4 When developing programs, are there any portability issues I should be
aware of?
portability Yes. As stated above, any applications that use the
standard tools provided by the NEXTSTEP development environment,
should just recompile and work. To make sure developers are aware of
portability issues, NeXT is producing a guide to address source code
portability between different architectures running NEXTSTEP. This
guide is available in the online documentation to the NeXT Developer
package.
6.5 What is the difference between the NEXTSTEP/Intel User Environment and
Developer Environment?
user vs. developer developer vs. user The NEXTSTEP/Intel User
Environment consists of the entire NEXTSTEP 3.3 environment, minus the
developer tools. The Developer Environment includes the developer
tools such Interface builder, Project Builder, C compilers, Object
Kits, example source code and developer documentation.
Although it is possible to just get the latest GNU C compiler as a
binary, you can not use it! This is because you won't get the standard
libraries needed to produce NeXT applications neither the header
files. Also it there is currently no third party compiler shipping. If
you want to compile, you are forced to use the NeXT Developer package.
The status of compiling a standard UNIX utility without NeXT's headers
and just based on the supplied shared libraries is unknown.
6.6 If a specific I/O card is not supported by NeXT, can 3rd parties write
drivers for NEXTSTEP/Intel?
I/O driver Yes. NEXTSTEP/Intel uses a newly developed object-oriented
driver architecture that brings the benefits of object-orientation all
the way down to the I/O card driver level.
6.7 How is NEXTSTEP/Intel installed?
installation, Intel
NEXTSTEP/Intel will come with a boot floppy and a CDROM. To install
NEXTSTEP/Intel, the system boots from the floppy, and then installs
the minimum NEXTSTEP environment from the CDROM (SCSI CDROM drive).
The user may then chose from several optional packages depending on
the available disk space and user requirements.
6.8 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on 386 machines?
386 Intel 386 No. NEXTSTEP/Intel uses several 486 specific features
that enhance the performance of NEXTSTEP. NEXTSTEP/Intel will support
any 486 with Coprocessor and up.
6.9 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the Cyrix 486SLC?
486SLC, Cyrix Cyrix, 486SLC
NeXT states: No. The Cyrix chip not a true 486.
several other users state: Yes. Slow performance, though.
6.10 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the future Intel Microprocessors in the x86
family?
x86 Intel, x86 Yes. NEXTSTEP/Intel will not only support them, but
will take advantage of any performance enhancements available with
future Intel CPU's, just as NeXT has taken advantage of the 486.
6.11 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on portable computers?
portable computers
Yes. Many portables and notebooks with 486 CPU's and sufficient system
resources (>=8MB RAM and >=120MB hard disk space) are available. Since
NEXTSTEP/Intel will support 640x480 VGA displays in grayscale,
NEXTSTEP 486 can run on these systems. Do be aware that NEXTSTEP's
user interface and applications were not designed for low-resolution
screens, and consequently will impose limitations on the use of some
applications.
6.12 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel be able to run MS-DOS and Windows programs?
MS-DOS Windows MS-Windows
Yes. NEXTSTEP/Intel will support a DOS and Windows compatibility
package. This software will allow DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1 programs to
run within a NEXTSTEP window. Support will include DOS "Protected"
mode and Windows 3.1.
This package is called SoftPC and comes with every NEXTSTEP system.
The software is not free with NEXTSTEP, you have to pay extra. Anyway
you are not limited in a 30 day test phase when installing it.
Windows 95 and Windows NT are not supported by the emulation software.
6.13 How will my DOS and Windows applications perform under NEXTSTEP/Intel?
MS-DOS, performance Windows, performance MS-Windows, performance
Very well. The DOS/Windows compatibility package for NEXTSTEP/Intel
takes full advantage of the 486 microprocessor. Depending on system
hardware configuration and type of DOS/Windows application,
performance should vary between 386 and 486 native DOS/Windows
performance on Pentium systems. In addition, to enhance the
performance of Windows applications, a MS Windows specific Graphics
Device Interface (GDI) driver which maps Microsoft Windows calls
directly to the NEXTSTEP window server is part of the system.
6.14 Is the window I use to run Microsoft Windows applications resizable?
Windows, size MS-Windwos, size
Yes. You can set the Windows session to any size you wish up to the
maximum screen size available to the NEXTSTEP/Intel system you are
using.
6.15 Will this DOS/Windows compatibility system allow me to run several DOS
programs at once?
MS-DOS, multitasking
Yes. Since NEXTSTEP/Intel is a multi-tasking, virtual memory operating
environment, several DOS/Windows sessions can be run at once.
Hey, did I say Windows? Yes you can do real Windows multitasking with
SoftPC.
6.16 Can I cut and paste between DOS/Windows sessions and NEXTSTEP
applications?
cut&paste, Windows cut&paste, MS-DOS cut&paste, MS-Windows
Yes. You can cut and paste text and graphics between DOS/Windows and
NEXTSTEP applications.
6.17 Can I use both DOS and NEXTSTEP/Intel partitions on the same hard disk?
partitions, NeXT and DOS multi OS setup OS, more than one
Yes. NEXTSTEP/Intel will support multiple operating systems on the
same local hard disk. When the system boots, the user can chose to
boot another operating system (such as DOS) or NEXTSTEP. If the local
partition contains DOS, NEXTSTEP/Intel will be able to access the
local DOS partition and read/write files to it, with the restriction
on primary partitions only.
Executive Summary: It is possible to install DOS, Windows NT with
NTFS, and NEXTSTEP/Intel on the same disk, and select which partition
is booted at boot time.
I spent some time experimenting with a 200MB SCSI disk. I wanted to
see if the following configuration would be possible:
Partition 1 Primary DOS
Partition 2 Extended DOS
Partition 3 Windows NT NTFS
Partition 4 NS/Intel 3.2
Since Windows NT requires at least 70MB for installation, and NS/Intel
requires at least 120MB, there wasn't much room for DOS! Ultimately, I
only tested a three partition system (DOS, NTFS, NS/Intel), but I have
no reason to believe that the extended DOS wouldn't also work.
The recipe is as follows:
* Preparation. You need a bootable DOS floppy that has FORMAT.COM on
it. You need another (blank) floppy for installing NT.
* Start with the NS/Intel installation. When it asks you how you
want to configure your disk, it gives you three choices, which are
basically
1. erase the whole disk and use it all for NS/Intel,
2. save some room for DOS,
3. advanced. Choose the advanced option, which places you in
NS/Intel fdisk (not to be confused with DOS FDISK.EXE).
* Create three partitions in this order:
1. Primary DOS (if more than 32MB desired, use the "large" FAT
option)
2. HPFS (this is a placeholder for NT, and can be any non-DOS
format)
3. NEXTSTEP
* Proceed with the rest of the NEXTSTEP installation.
* When NEXTSTEP is safely installed and tested out, boot DOS from
your bootable DOS floppy.
* FORMAT the DOS partition (which should be Drive C if you made it
the first partition). You want to FORMAT C:/S, to install the boot
code to make the DOS partition bootable.
* Once DOS is safely formatted and tested out, insert the NT
installation floppy and reboot.
* Proceed with the NT installation. Tell Setup to install NT in the
second partition (which shows up as "Unformatted"). You can select
NTFS for FAT format.
* Insert the blank floppy when asked. Don't bother to format it, NT
unconditionally formats it.
* If you select NTFS, there is a scary part of the installation that
makes it seem like NT can't reboot. In fact, it is converting the
installed files from FAT to NTFS in place. Just let it keep
rebooting until it finishes, don't interrupt it like I did.
* Finish setting up NT and test it out. It should be able to see the
DOS partition in FileManager.
* Likewise, there should be a DOS filesystem in / on NS/Intel. If
you configured NT for FAT instead of NTFS, there should be two DOS
filesystems in /.
That's it. When you boot, you see the familiar NS/Intel boot manager.
If you select DOS, it boots NT, which in turn offers you a chance to
boot DOS or NT (not NS/Intel, of course). Kind of weird that you have
this two tiered boot, but it's probably because the bootsector has
been modified by NT. I haven't tried setting the active partition to
DOS -- that might avoid the two tiers.
6.18 Can NEXTSTEP/Intel read, write, and format DOS and Mac floppies?
MacIntosh, r/w floppy MS-DOS, r/w floppy Yes.
6.19 NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.1, DOS, Linux/NT multi-boot system?
multi OS boot Linux MS-DOS OS/2 boot manager dual boot
The OS/2 boot manager does this nicely.
NOTES ON INSTALLING DOS, OS/2 AND NEXTSTEP FOR DUAL BOOT
* Boot OS/2 from diskette and press Escape to get to the [A:]
command prompt
* Run the OS/2 FDISK program and create the following partitions:
+ 1 MB Boot Manager
+ 20MB DOS Primary partition (drive C:)
+ 64MB OS/2 Extended partition (logical drive D:)
+ 120MB Data Extended partition (logical drive E:) (or 200MB or
whatever size)
NOTE: LEAVE THE REMAINING 460+MB FREE SPACE UNFORMATTED DO NOT CREATE
A PARTITION FOR THE REMAINING SPACE
* Re-boot the machine and boot DOS from diskette.
* Format drive C: and install DOS on drive C: with the following
command: format c: /s /u
* Now Re-boot the machine with the OS/2 Installation diskette.
* Install OS/2 on Drive D: (the 64 MB logical partition) You will be
prompted to install OS/2 on the default drive C: You will need to
select the option to change the drive which will throw you into
FDISK. Just make drive D: installable and proceed.
* After OS/2 has been installed shutdown the system. Do a cold power
off boot.
* Cold boot the machine with the NEXTSTEP boot diskette.
* Proceed with normal NEXTSTEP install and you should get the
following disk installation option screen:
Type 1 to erase the entire disk and use all 667 MB ...
Type 2 to set aside some space for DOS and use the rest ...
Type 3 to keep existing partitions and use the 462 MB free space ...
Type 4 to use the 184 MB DOS extended partition for NEXTSTEP.
Type 5 for advanced options (in English only).
--->
Choose option number 3 and proceed with the NEXTSTEP install
* After NEXTSTEP has been installed, re-boot the machine and select
'd' from the NEXTSTEP boot manager menu to boot DOS.
* When DOS has booted, run the FDISK program to set the active
partition to the first partition, the BOOT Manager partition. Then
exit fdisk.
* Now run the DOS FDISK program again but with the following
parameter: fdisk /mbr This command removes the NEXTSTEP boot
manager from the DOS partition.
* Now re-boot the machine and the boot manager should come up.
Select OS/2
* Once OS/2 has booted, run the OS/2 FDISK program and name the
NEXTSTEP partition and add it to the boot manager menu.
* You should now have a machine with DOS, NEXTSTEP, OS/2 listed in
the boot manager menu when the machine starts up. The boot manager
defaults to the OS that was last booted.
6.20 NeXTSTEP on INTEL, KEYBOARD-ERROR ...
keyboard error, Intel
We installed NeXTSTEP for Intel on a P5-Board using an Adaptec A1540
SCSI-Controller. The System boots correctly. After running the kernel
the keyboard is without any function. We can't use it anymore.
Rebooting doesn't eliminate the error (advise from I-Guide).
Well, it seems that the PS/2 Mouse driver interferes with the keyboard
driver when installing on some motherboards. You have to remove the
PS/2 mouse driver, then reboot, and it will work fine. I destroy the
driver on our machines, so that config=Default will work properly as
well. You should be able to remove the driver without reinstalling.
6.21 NS 3.2 Tseng ET4000 Video Driver doesn't work.
ET4000, NS3.2
TSENG Cards often have different DACs and BIOS-Versions. It is
important, that the graphics card do have the original BIOS from TSENG
Laps. Otherwise, it is not possible to run NS with the 1024 x 768
resolution.
6.22 Accessing ROM monitor on Intel-System, how?
ROM-Monitor, Intel On Intel you just type -s at the boot: prompt. Also
try CTRL-C at the point where it hangs it might continue. This gives
you single user mode. There simply is no ROM-Monitor on Intel as it is
on NeXT. You do have the choice to enter a simple ROM-Debugger by
choosing the appropriate option when the system hangs.
6.23 Adaptec 2940 Fast and Sync. SCSI explanation...
This message is to clear up the confusion on the issue of whether or
not the NEXTSTEP driver for the Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Host Adapter
supports Fast SCSI (i.e., 10 MB/s data transfers).
The Adaptec 2940 SCSI Host Adapter Driver supports Synchronous Data
Transfer as well as Fast SCSI transfers. In order to enable
Synchronous Data Transfer, this feature must be enabled in both the
2940's AutoSCSI program and in the NEXTSTEP Configure application,
when configuring the Adaptec 2940 driver. In the AutoSCSI program,
this feature is enabled in the SCSI Device Configuration menu, via the
"Initiate Sync Negotiation" field. This can be enabled or disabled on
a per-target basis. In the Configure application, the "Synchronous"
button, if disabled, disables Synchronous Transfers for ALL targets.
If enabled, the values selected in the AutoSCSI program are used to
determine whether or not Synchronous Transfers occur on a per-target
basis.
The Synchronous Transfer data rate is determined in the 2940's
AutoSCSI program, via the "Maximum Sync Transfer Rate" field in the
SCSI Device Configuration menu. "Fast SCSI" Transfers are enabled by
selecting a value of 10 (i.e., 10 Megabytes/seconds) for this field.
Note that if Synchronous Transfers are disabled, the "Maximum Sync
Transfer Rate" field is meaningless. Also note that it is not
recommended to select a value higher than 5 for a device which is in
an external enclosure and connected to the 2940 via an external SCSI
cable.
6.24 Do EIDE-Drives work with NEXTSTEP?
EIDE
Yes, a driver is included in NEXTSTEP 3.3
6.25 Anyone have a driver yet that does 8 bit color on an ET4000/w32p card?
(Hercules Dynamite Pro VLB)
ET4000/w32p, 8 Bit color
Here's a trick that will work with 3.3 if the driver works with your
adapter. You need the latest driver though.
Simply select one of the 8-bit gray resolutions in Configure. Save the
configuration and quit Configure. Open Instance0.table inside the
driver bundle and search for BW:8 and replace it by RGB:256/8. Save
the file. Restart your machine and you've got 8-bit color!!!
6.26 Does a Glidepoint pointing device work with NEXTSTEP?
Glidepoint
It will work nicely under NS as you don't need any driver to make it
work and use the nice features that GlidePoint have, like 'double-tap'
to replace left-button click and 'double-tap and slide on the pad' to
replace the hold the button and move for dragging an object.
6.27 AppleTalk under NEXTSTEP/Intel?
AppleTalk, Intel IPT has a product called Partner, which works fine
under 3.3 and mounts AppleShare Volumes, supports AT printing etc.
(This is true, although IPT states that Partner only runs under 3.3
Black and 3.2 Intel.)
6.28 Booting hangs with black screen
Triton Bootoptions
On some Triton based boards there seems to be a graphic problem while
booting. The solution is to switch off graphic display and always boot
with the '-v' option turned on (enter this at the 'boot:' prompt).
If you don't get a 'boot:' prompt, or if you just want to fix things
forever, you need to enter Default.table and Instance0.table in
/usr/Devices/System.config and set 'BootGraphics="No"'. This has the
same effect as typing '-v' at the 'boot:' prompt every time.
Setting BootGraphics=NO can also be done from the Expert panel in
Configure.app
6.29 Why are the features of my graphic card useless?
graphic card
For the purposes of this discussion, I will limit my response to the
manner in which DPS operates as part of the NEXTSTEP window server.
DPS sometimes draws directly to the screen and sometimes to offscreen
memory (buffered windows). The latter is the most common case. The
former occurs only in nonretained windows and visible portions of
retained windows.
DPS is split into two sections: a device independent kernel and a
device dependent driver layer. The driver layer is free to use
graphics hardware to do its job; however there are complications.
First, most graphics cards only allow you to use the hardware to draw
into the framebuffer, not into system memory. This renders the
hardware unusable for buffered windows. Second, the hardware must draw
the same pixels that the software would draw. Often this is hard to
achieve with satisfactory performance results. The DPS device
primitives rely on precise pixel layout that often cannot be
guaranteed using the hardware in the most straightforward manner.
So, while it is theoretically possible to use graphics hardware with
DPS in NEXTSTEP, it is not very practical. This should not lead you to
the conclusion that all graphics cards are the same when it comes to
NEXTSTEP. The speed of the system bus (ISA, EISA, PCI, VLB) is a big
determinant of performance, but the internal architecture of the card
itself also has a huge impact on the framebuffer memory bandwidth. I
won't go into details, but some of the determinants include DRAM vs.
VRAM, memory interleaving, and burst access.
Other factors also influence the quality of a display card. These
include the speed and stability of the RAMDAC and the supported
display modes to name jsut two.
6.30 How to use MIDI without the MusicKit?
MIDI MusicKit
* Be sure you have an MPU-401 compatible MIDI card for the PC.
* Get the Music Kit and install it. It's on the ftp servers.
* Install the MIDI driver by double clicking on
/LocalLibrary/Devices/Mididriver, which will add it to the system.
Set the IRQ and IO port in the Configure.app. Then reboot.
* If your program does not use the -ObjC flag on its link line, link
against /usr/local/lib/libmusickit.a. However, if your program
does use the -ObjC flag, extract the following files from
libmusickit.a and link against them
explicitly:
mididriver_replyServer.o
mididriverUser.o
mididriver_nonMig.o
* Add this line as the first line in the C file that accesses the
MIDI driver:
#import <musickit/midi_driver_compatability.h>
Be sure that you do not explicitly import . This file is
(conditionally) imported by .
The reason for needing a separate API for Intel is that there's a
structure size disparity between the 68k and Intel versions of
NeXT's libsys_s. So we defined a new set of MIDI functions for the
Intel driver. The header file above defines the old names to be
the new names.
* Change the mididriver port name from mididriver to Mididriver.
Example:
#if i386
#define MIDIDRIVER_NAME "Mididriver"
#else
#define MIDIDRIVER_NAME "mididriver"
#endif
r = netname_look_up(name_server_port, "",MIDIDRIVER_NAME,
&driverPort);
This is another change to prevent conflict with the NeXT hardware
driver.
6.31 Installation problems with EIDE and ATAPI drives
EIDE installation ATAPI
Load the SCSI driver and then load the EIDE driver. Don't follow the
directions they give you (which are to load the CD's driver and then
load the hard drive's driver). Do it backwards, so that the hard drive
you are installing to gets assigned sd0. By swapping drivers like
this, the CDROM gets sd1 which is what the installation procedure
expects.
I guess that what happened is that the EIDE driver makes the CDROM
drive masquerade as a SCSI device. And SCSI ids will be assigned to
devices in the order that you load the drivers. Since the OS wants to
load to sd0, that means that you have to load the hard drive's driver
before the CDROM's driver, especially in this case where the CD is on
one bus and the HD is on another. By doing this, the CD doesn't steal
sd0 away before the SCSI driver is loaded. My guess is that if you had
the CD and the hard drive on the same bus (EIDE or SCSI) you'd never
have this trouble. It's just the fact that there are two busses that
confuse the installation. Anyway, this worked for me (Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com).
6.32 Error message during boot time
error, during boot message, bootstrap
The following is a common error message you might encounter during the
boot process just before the workspace starts up: bootstrap_register
failed -- 102. You may ignore it savely. It will only occur if you
didn't installed a sound driver.
6.33 Does NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP run with ...
compatibility
Although there are problems running NEXSTEP/OPENSTEP in conjunction
with certain hardware, these problems are rare and most people got it
working somehow. It's best to buy supported add-on cards listed in the
Intel-Configuration section of NeXTanswers
http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/. However most mainboards do work.
Yes, this includes Pentium-Pro processors.
NO, this excludes MP support (if you don't know what it is, never
mind) (Okay, MP: Multi-Processing. Some boards are capable to keep
more than one processor. However NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP doesn't take
advantage of more than one processor).
Also most multiprocessing boards do work with a single or more
processors (even if a second or further processors aren't utilized)
there are reports which indicate that there are problems with these
boards.
6.34 RAM greater 64MB, now I get a black screen!
screen, black black screen
Many users discouver a nice effect: They add RAM to their computer so
they have more than 64MB of RAM installed. After rebooting
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP only a black screen appears and the system is
stalled.
This is a common problem. Reboot using the default configuration or
with the VGA driver installed. Run Configure and select your graphic
driver. Enter a value greater 64MB (in hexadecimal numbering,
eg.0xA000000) and save. That's it. Previously your drivers memory did
collide with your computers memory.
6.35 Lost root password
root, password password, root
The following is a method on how to change the root password on an
Intel based computer. However if the system is booted over a network
this won't help.
Boot in single user mode supplying '-s' to the boot prompt. Once the
system is halted. Start NetInfo by running 'sh /etc/rc'. Now use 'nu
-m' to change the password and reboot (enterying 'reboot' of course.
Not pressing the power button! I didn't had to tell this, did I?)
7 STORAGE
7.1 Disktab help needed: ST15230N
disktab ST15230N Seagate, ST15230
This is the /etc/disktab entry for the SEAGATE ST15230N.
ST15230N_1024|SEAGATE ST15230N_1024:\
:ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#3992:nt#19:ns#59:ss#1024:rm#5411:\
:fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:hn=localhost:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#512000:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#8:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:\
:pb#512000:sb#512000:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#8:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
:ib:tb=4.3BSD:\
:pc#1024000:sc#716800:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#8:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\
:ic:tc=4.3BSD: \
:pd#1740800:sd#1536000:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#8:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\
:id:td=4.3BSD: \
:pe#3276800:se#1150000:be#8192:fe#1024:ce#8:de#4096:re#10:oe=time:\
:ie:te=4.3BSD:
7.2 Formatting DEC DSP3105 with 1024-byte blocks.
DEC, DSP3105 DPS3105, 1024 block size disktab
A DEC DSP3160S was reformatted with 1024-byte blocks using the
following entry in /etc/disktab (two partitions)
# DEC DSP3160S
DSP3160S|DEC DSP3160S|DEC DSP3160S w/1024 b/sec as 2 partition:\
:ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#1302:nt#16:ns#75:ss#1024:rm#5403:\
:fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:r0=a:\
:pa#0:sa#744000:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#7:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:\
:pb#744000:sb#818400:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#7:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
:ib:tb=4.3BSD:
7.3 My formatted disk has much less space then advertised!
filesystem, overhead disk space space, disk filesystem, space
Let's assume you bought a disk drive advertised with 400 MB
unformatted capacity. Vendors are not consistent with the MB
definition. You may have much less space less than you think you have.
Which of the following did you buy?
400 * 1000 * 1000 = 400,000,000 bytes
400 * 1024 * 1000 = 409,600,000 bytes
400 * 1024 * 1024 = 419,430,400 bytes
(for Quantum drives the following is true: Quantum defines 1MB to be
exactly 1000000 Bytes).
The disk must be formatted. This is often done by the vendor, but
occasionally by the user. Formatting maps the disk into sectors. Space
is reserved for the disk geometry and bad sectors. Formatting can take
10-20% of the capacity depending on the sector size. Common sector
sizes are 512 and 1024. Generally, bigger sectors mean less waste.
Once formatted, the UNIX file system must be created. On the NeXT,
this is one of the steps performed by the BuildDisk application. It
invokes the mkfs command to make a file system. This reserves space
for the UNIX file system (e.g., superblocks, inode tables). This
overhead can take another 2-3% of the available disk space.
If you issue the df command, you may be surprised to see another 10
the available disk space has disappeared. The df command shows the
total, used, and available disk space. The df units are in kbytes
(1024 bytes). The sum of the used and available numbers will generally
be about 10 allow the UNIX file system to be efficient in its storage
allocation. If your disk fills up, only the superuser can store files
in the remaining 10%.
To complete the picture, here's a snapshot of what may occur:
Capacity Lost/Used/Reserved Reason
(in bytes) (in bytes)
419,430,000 19,430,000 Marketing hype (~5\%)
400,000,000 60,000,000 Formatting (~15\%)
340,000,000 6,800,000 UNIX file system (~2\%)
333,200,000 33,320,000 Efficiency & superuser (~10\%)
299,880,000
For more information, refer to the df and mkfs man pages.
7.4 Can't initialise my disk within the Workspace
initializing
Sometimes there are problem initializing disks. This only occurs if
the disk is already formatted, but in a different format, e.g. the
sector size was changed etc.
Mostly you can overcome this problem by using the sdformat utility
available on the FTP sites. (Not sdform by NeXT, which is incapable to
do this). After using sdformat, you should be abel to further format
the media within Workspace.
7.5 Initialing Opticals for NeXT
OD, NeXT optical disk, OD OD, initializing
Do the following:
/etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 288339 1803 2 8192 1024 12 10 60 4096 t
7.6 How to use a tape drive ?
tape drive
Using Configure.app add the SCSITape driver to support any SCSI tape
drives in the "Others" config.
7.7 How to recover from an partially formatted disk?
recover, disk
Often people (mostly on Intel) complain about a formatted disk
(sometimes partially) due to an installation process error of some
other OS. There is a chance to recover most of the data. The following
assumes you are on Intel, other hardware user have to handle things
much less complicated, but the way is similar:
* Prepare a new hard drive for booting
* Don't try to repair the broken drive!
* On Intel run fdisk to repartition the drive as it was before. If
you are not able to do this, you are lost. Delete all evtl. new
created partitions. By repartitioning, you won't loose data on the
drive.
* Run disk on the broken drive e.g. type disk -rsd1h.
* Now scan the disk for superblocks by entereing the scan command at
the interactive disk command prompt.
* If your disk was partially formatted, use a higher superblock
number to supply fsck with an new superblock. E.g. if a superblock
was found at 3145 use fsck -b3145 -y /dev/sd1a (assuming the first
partition is the broken one).
* After this run, it is most important to reboot without syncing the
drives! E.g. just turn off the computer without shutting down, or
use the reboot -n command.
* After rebooting the run fsck again, if it isn't done by the system
itself.
* You should be able to access the drive again now. Recovered files
are placed in the /lost+found directory.
7.8 What about the ZIP drive?
IOmega, ZIP ZIP drive
There are frequently asked questions about the IOmega ZIP drive. One
question will be answered here: 'Yes, it works with NEXTSTEP'.
For other question I'd like to point you to the ZIP-drive FAQ:
http://www.radical.com/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html
7.9 How to partition a 4GB drive
4GB drive 2GB partition limit Quantum sizes
If you are going to use large drives (greater 2GB) you need to
partition this drive (true at least for OS versions up to 4.0). These
are the common ways to go without too much trouble and it provides an
very easy way for 4GB drives under NS3.3.
1. Solution: disktab
+ If you need more than 3 partitions, you have to write a
disktab entry! Using fdisk (Intel systems only) has no
effect.
+ On how to write a disktab entry, read the NeXTanswers (search
for partition)
+ other pointers are: 'scsimodes' and 'man disktab'.
2. Solution: installation on drive to partition
+ for Quantum drives the following is true: Quantum defines 1MB
to be exactly 1.000.000 bytes. So if you are suited best by
using 2 partitions on a Quantum Atlas 34300 (4.3GB
drive-Quantum size, 4GB+5MB real size)
+ 2 partitions are automatically handled on all NS3.3 platforms
+ To easily install the drive by not writing a disktab entry do
the following:
o disconnect all other drives and connect the 4GB drive
with ID 0
o start a plain NS3.3 installation via disks and the
CD-ROM
o when the installation of files starts (text based
output) you may break the procedure (the disk will get
fsck'ed later) or wait until the system reboots and
hangs :-) (no fsck needed then)
o you should previously have read some line telling you:
initializing sd0b
o now reconnect your old boot drives and restart NEXTSTEP
with the old boot drives. Switch the 4GB drive to a
different ID.
o Only the first partition of the 4GB drive will get
mounted automatically, this is due to a documented bug
in the automounter.
o to permanently mount both partitions, add your drive
partitions to the /etc/fstab file. Test mounting and
umounting by hand first.
o everything should work fine now after a second reboot,
and if you set up your fstab file correctly, both
partitions will get mounted.
+ To switch the boot partition to the new 4GB drive continue
with:
o only the first partition is bootable (you'll notice that
by doing a ls -l on the mount entry --- there is the 't'
file mode)
o (cd / ; gnutar -clf -)|(cd ; gnutar -xvpf -) This
transfers your root partition to the new partition.
o now try a boot from the new drive, by entering in the
boot prompt: sd(x)mach_kernel (bsd for NeXT)
7.10 How to mount/ignore a disk during boot
fstab mount, during boot disk, protection protection, disk disk,
ignore foreign filesystems filesystem, ignore
If you just format a new disk attached to your computer, it will get
automounted by the Workspacemanager and unmounted when you log out. To
utilize the disk during the boot process or to have fixed pathes and
protections you need to create an entry in /etc/fstab for the drive.
See the Unix manual pages for more details.
This is also the solution for ignoring disks or partitions of a disk
with a foreign filesystem, which the Workspacemanager otherwises would
prompt you for formatting.
A common mistake for /etc/fstab is to inlcude the noauto keyword in
subsequent mounts. Don't include this keyword for further mount
entries!
7.11 Can't read multisession CD-ROMs!
CD-ROM, multisession multisession
Argh. Yes it's true. The original NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP drivers can't read
multisession CD-ROMs. Only the first session can be used. If it is
audio, CDPlayer is started if it's data it is just automounted to
become accessable though Worksapce manager.
Luckily there is a commercial driver out there, which enables
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP to take advantage of multisession CD-ROMs.
CDXA Driver
Price DM 48,- (about $US 30)
Uwe Tilemann
Tools GmbH
Adolfstr. 5
D-53111 Bonn
GERMANY
Phone: +49 0228 98580-0
Fax: +49 0228 98580-17
Email: ut@Tools.DE (NeXTmail/MIME)
WWW: http://www.Tools.DE/
8 PRINTING
8.1 What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with NEXTSTEP?
printer, NeXT
Adding supported postscript printers is rather simple:
* Get a serial cable (e.g., Macintosh to LaserWriter Plus), but
check whether that works with your printer
* Configure using Print Manager
* Configure printer communication according to manufacturer's
recommendations. (9600 baud software flow control).
A sample printcap entry needs to be loaded into the netinfo database.
You can use either niload printcap . , or use NetInfoManager to change
the br and lp properties of your LaserJet. Using the default baud rate
and /dev/ttya will also work, for most print jobs (if the printer is
connected to this port).
LaserJet_III: \
:note=LaserJet_III:ty=HP LaserJet III PostScript: \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/LaserJet_III:lp=/dev/ttyfa: \
:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:af=/usr/adm/lp.acct:br=19200:rw:fc\#0000374: \
:fs\#0000003:xc\#0:xs\#0040040:mx\#0:sf:sb:if=/usr/lib/transcript/psif:
\
:of=/usr/lib/transcript/psof:gf=/usr/lib/transcript/psgf: \
:nf=/usr/lib/transcript/psnf:tf=/usr/lib/transcript/pstf: \
:rf=/usr/lib/transcript/psrf:vf=/usr/lib/transcript/psvf: \
:cf=/usr/lib/transcript/pscf:df=/usr/lib/transcript/psdf:
HP printer configuration:
auto cont = off (doesn't matter)
I/O = serial
serial=rs-232 (for LJ III only)
baud rate = 19200 (or whatever baud rate you have
in ni database/printcap)
robust xon = on (doesn't matter)
dtr polarity = hi
startpage = off (doesn't matter)
language=english
ret = med (you choose for LJ III only)
Note that if you modify the printcap this way you cannot reconfigure
this particular printer entry with PrintManager.
If you are using NEXTSTEP 2.0 and you use remote non-next printers,
there is a bug that can be simply corrected by doing "dwrite system
PrinterResolution 1" for each user trying to access non-next printers
on the network. This not a problem in later NEXTSTEP versions.
8.2 What fonts can I use with NEXTSTEP?
fonts
Properly packaged Type 1 or 3 PostScript fonts will work with
NEXTSTEP, but certain conversions may be necessary to get them to
work. Freeware and shareware fonts are available on various ftp
archives. There are utilities with NEXTSTEP to download fonts into
postscript printers.
Freeware and shareware Type 1 and 3 fonts in files
Fonts-1.0-free.tar.Z and Fonts-2.0-sw.tar.Z. Each file unpacks into
it's own directory. Within each directory is a ReadMe.rtf and a
Makefile. See the ReadMe.rtf for more font descriptions and
installation instructions. (You may also find comments in the Makefile
of interest.) These packages were prepared by Doug Brenner .
The same directory contains fonts Shalom (Hebrew and Yiddish in Old
Style, Stick and Script typefaces, by Jonathan Brecher, shareware) and
CyrillicGothic (san serif, by Jay Sekora). These were packaged by
Jacob Gore to work with the Installer application.
WSI-Fonts for NEXTSTEP \#1
Abstract Software
POB 25045
Seattle, WA 98125-1945
Voice: 206 361 5080
info@abstractsoft.com
Some fonts in Type 1 format for NEXTSTEP are also available from Y&Y:
Y\&Y, 106 Indian Hill, Carlisle MA 01741 USA
Voice: 800 742 4059
Voice: 508 371 3286
Fax: 508 371 2004
71172,524 on CompuServe
71172.524@compuserve.com from InterNet
There is a font converter available in the MetroTools package by
MetroSoft (info@metrosoft.com).
8.3 How can I save my printable documents to a postscript file?
PS to file
Select PRINT from the main menu, then select SAVE from the resulting
print panel.
8.4 How can I print only the even or odd pages of a document?
odd and even pages even and odd pages duplex printing double sided
print
I wish print on both sides by feeding the paper through twice.
We must recommend against re-using laser printed paper in your
printers. The reason is that the toner which is used is not very
robust, in that when heated again (which happens when you print) it
can come off the other side of the paper. This causes a mess to
accumulate in your printer, and probably some pretty rude things to
happen.
psutils from comp.sources.misc is a much better solution, and includes
a lot more capabilities, plus it is being updated constantly.
8.5 How do I get banner pages on my printer output?
banner
There is a sample banner prologue file in /usr/lib/NextPrinter that is
sent to the printer before or after the print job depending on what
printer attributes are set in NetInfo. Sounds gross, but it isn't.
Start up NetInfo on your printer machine. Go to the printer directory,
and open up your local printer by double clicking it. Select the
append property from Directory menu. Replace the name with BannerAfter
(or BannerBefore if you want the banner page printed first). The
select the New Value option, and put in the name of the banner
prologue file. If you do not wish to do fancy customization of the
file, simply put the path to the NeXT sample banner file:
/usr/lib/NextPrinter/banner.pro
Save out the netinfo modifications.
8.6 How do I get [la]TeX files to print correctly on non-NeXT printers?
Latex TeX
If you are printing to a non-NeXT printer from NeXT TeX using dvips,
make sure you specify the correct resolution (300 dpi, usually),
either on the command line with -D300, or in the
/usr/lib/tex/config.ps file with a line that looks like : D 300
If you are printing from within TeXView, you will have to choose
CustomResolution and enter the correct number (300, usually) because
of the way DefaultResolution defaults to 0.
8.7 What if I have a PostScript font has not been ported to NEXTSTEP?
PS-Font to NeXT
Many PostScript fonts port to NEXTSTEP with little effort.
The easiest case is a font generated by Fontographer version 3.2 or
above (a comment near the top of the file should say which program
generated the font). This version of Fontographer can generate fonts
"for NEXTSTEP". This means that no hacking of the font is needed, but
you may need to make some adjustments to make it appear in your font
panel.
Suppose you were porting the font family Shalom, which consists of
three faces: Old Style, Stick and Script. Here is the procedure to
follow:
* In a working folder of yours, create folders called:
Shalom-OldStyle.font
Shalom-Script.font
Shalom-Stick.font
Note that the font family name is to the left of the hyphen ("-"),
and the typeface name is to the right and with no spaces in it.
* Copy the outline font file for each typeface from wherever it is
into its folder, and give it the name of the folder minus the
".font". For example, if you are doing this in a Terminal window:
cp /Floppy/ShalomOldStyle.NeXT Shalom-OldStyle.font/Shalom-OldStyle
cp /Floppy/ShalomScript.NeXT Shalom-Script.font/Shalom-Script
cp /Floppy/ShalomStick.NeXT Shalom-Stick.font/Shalom-Stick
If you are working in Workspace Manager's File Viewer,
double-click on the big fat F icon to open the font directory as a
folder, then you'll be able to rename files in it.
* Do the same thing with the font metric files, but make the suffix
".afm":
cp /Floppy/ShalomOldStyle.AFM Shalom-OldStyle.font/Shalom-OldStyle.afm
cp /Floppy/ShalomScript.AFM Shalom-Script.font/Shalom-Script.afm
cp /Floppy/ShalomStick.AFM Shalom-Stick.font/Shalom-Stick.afm
* If there is a "read me" file with the font, or any other
documentation, copy it into the .font folder too. For example,
each of the Shalom font folders contains files ReadMe,
CheatSheet.wn and Sample.wn specific to the typeface.
* Edit the outline and font metric files to make them fit the NeXT
AppKit's Font Panel, which is what most NextStep applications use
to let you choose your font.
+ Editing the outline file, e.g.,
Shalom-OldStyle.font/Shalom-OldStyle:
The original used "ShalomOldStyle" as the font's name, full
name, and family name. We want the name to be
"Shalom-OldStyle", the full name "Shalom Old Style", and
family name just "Shalom".
First, find the lines:
/FullName (ShalomOldStyle) readonly def
/FamilyName (ShalomOldStyle) readonly def
and change them to:
/FullName (Shalom Old Style) readonly def
/FamilyName (Shalom) readonly def
Then, replace all remaining occurrences of the string
"ShalomOldStyle" with "Shalom-OldStyle".
+ Editing the AFM file, e.g.,
Shalom-OldStyle.font/Shalom-OldStyle.afm.
Find the lines:
FullName ShalomOldStyle
FamilyName ShalomOldStyle
and change them to:
FullName Shalom Old Style
FamilyName Shalom
Replace all remaining occurrences of the string "ShalomOldStyle"
with "Shalom-OldStyle".
Repeat this procedure for the remaining typefaces.
* You now have a font family ready to be installed. If the font
family is to be used by your account only, place it in
/Library/Fonts (creating it if necessary):
mkdirs ~/Library/Fonts
mv Shalom-*.font ~/Library/Fonts
buildafmdir ~/Library/Fonts
If everybody on your system should have access to this font
family, place it (as superuser) in /LocalLibary/Fonts:
su
mkdirs /LocalLibrary/Fonts
mv Shalom-*.font /LocalLibrary/Fonts
buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts
exit
That's all you need to do for fonts generated by Fontographer version
3.2 or above. This will work with all applications that use AppKit's
FontPanel. FrameMaker does not, so other changes may need to be done
to keep FrameMaker happy [does anybody have something to add here?].
Fonts generated by Fontographer version 3.1 or below don't work in
Display PostScript as they are, because they use a memory management
trick that screws everything up in a multitasking environment like
DPS. However, there is a simple, though kludgy, way to make them work.
The problematic trick uses a dictionary with a name like "Fog3.1"
("Casa1" in Casady & Green's fonts) in which most of the font resides.
The problem is that Fontographer puts that whole dictionary into
dictionary 'userdict' and expects it to stay there. DPS, however,
clears out 'userdict' between tasks, including the task that loads the
font and the task that uses it. This makes the font useless on the
screen, and printable only by prepending the outline font file to the
file you want to print and sending the result to print in one task.
The fix is to move the troublesome dictionary from 'userdict' into the
font dictionary itself (unlike 'userdict', the font dictionary does
stick around between tasks).
Perform the following changes in the outline font file (the font
CyrillicGothic is used as the example):
* Find the line "%%EndProlog". It will be followed by the line like
this:
/\$CyrillicGothic 23 dict def \$CyrillicGothic begin
Write down the number before 'dict' (in this case, 23). You will
need it in the following step. Delete the dict definition, making
the line look like this:
\$CyrillicGothic begin
* Go back to the beginning of the file. near the top of the font
program, find the following lines:
userdict/Fog3.1 known\{\{currentfile( )readstring
\{(\%\%\%)eq\{exit\}if\}{pop exit\}ifelse\}loop
\}if
userdict begin/Fog3.1 45 dict def Fog3.1 begin
and replace them with these:
/\$CyrillicGothic 24 dict def
\$CyrillicGothic begin/Fog3.1 45 dict def Fog3.1 begin
The number before 'dict' (in this case, 24) is one greater than
the number you wrote down in the previous step.
* Find the line that defines procedure BuildChar:
/BuildChar{Fog3.1/BuildChar get exec}def
and change it as follows:
/BuildChar{1 index begin Fog3.1/BuildChar get exec end}def
* Go to the end of the file. The last line looks like this:
/CyrillicGothic findfont/EFN get Fog3.1 begin\{RF\}forall end
Delete it (or comment it out by placing one or more " beginning of
it).
The AFM file requires one adjustment. Change the line
EncodingScheme AppleStandard
to
EncodingScheme AdobeStandardEncoding
This concludes conversion of a font generated by Fontographer version
3.1 or lower to work with NEXTSTEP. You may still need to make the
changes described for version 3.2 and above, to make the font fit the
NEXTSTEP font panel.
Short note: under NEXTSTEP 3.3 there is no need to call buildafmdir by
hand. It's triggered automatically by the Font panel.
8.8 What color printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with NEXTSTEP?
printer, color
The (no longer sold) NeXT/Canon SCSI color printer, of course!
With Dots Color, the HP DeskJet 500C can print in color today, under
NEXTSTEP 2.1, and it costs significantly less than $1000 (in Germany
at least).
In Germany you can get more information from:
d'ART Software GmbH
Virchowstr. 17-19
W-2000 Hamburg 50
Germany
Voice: +49 40 380 23 0
Fax: +49 40 380 23 290
software@dart.de
JetPilot from Interpersonal Computer does this jobs also very well.
You can get more information from:
interpersonal computing GmbH
Oettingenstrasse 2
W-80538 Muenchen
Germany
Voice: +49 89 22 28 63
Fax: +49 89 22 33 76
info@interpc.de
8.9 How can I make the Page Layout default to A4 in all applications?
A4 default size
Add "NXPaperType A4" in the "GLOBAL" preferences.
8.10 /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: syntax error at line 31: `end of file'
unexpected?
Using lpr -t, or lpr -d causes this problem. eg:
[...]
cat /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf
[...]
Christopher Lane has pointed out 3 (three!) errors in the distributed
NEXTSTEP 3.0 lpd.comm file
The last change is my own. It worked for the 1 (one!) dvi file I
tried.
tilley\% diff lpd.comm.DIST lpd.comm
11,12c11,12
< while "x\$1" != x do
< case "\$1" in
---
> while test \$\# != 0
> do case "\$1" in
16c16
< -h) HOST=\$"; shift;;
---
> -h) HOST=\$2; shift;;
17a18
> esac
21c22
< PRSERVER="/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver -p \$PRINTER -n \$USER
-h HOST -f -"
---
> PRSERVER="/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver -p \$PRINTER -n \$USER
-h \$HOST -f -"
27c28
< psdf) psbad \$FILTER \$PRINTER \$USER \$HOST | \$PRSERVER;;
---
> psdf) dvips -f -D 400 -r | \$PRSERVER ;;
8.11 How to get TeX with NEXTSTEP to make proper fonts for a 600 dpi
laserwriter?
600dpi TeX fonts TeX, 600dpi
If you upgrade to a 600 dpi laserwriter then the version of TeX that
ships with NEXTSTEP (either 2.X or 3.0) does not know about 600 dpi
fonts, i.e. does not know how to make them and will instead use scaled
400 dpi ones (which look significantly worse at 600 dpi than they do
at 400 dpi). Some simple modifications to a few Metafont files and
rebuilding the metafont bases are all that is needed. What to do to
get the 600 dpi stuff working is as follows:
* Edit /usr/lib/mf/inputs/next.mf and add a laserjetIV mode. Simply
copy the entire imagen mode, change the name to laserjetIV, and
change the pixels_per_inch to 600. Save the changed file.
* Build a new mf.base file by executing the following commands:
inimf "plain; input next; dump"
(as superuser): cp plain.base /usr/lib/mf/bases/mf.base
* Edit /usr/lib/tex/ps/config.ps and change the `D 400' line to `D
600' (you may have `D 300' or something else if you've set up a
different printer.)
* Edit /usr/bin/MakeTeXPK (as superuser), adding the lines
elif test $BDPI = 600
then
MODE=laserjetIV
right before the second `else' in the file.
That should do it! You might have to (depending on how you configure
NEXTSTEP for the LaserJet IV) select `custom resolution' and set the
gadget to 600 in the TeXview print panel, and save Preferences. These
instructions are written for an HP Laserjet IV, but they should also
work for a QMS printer just fine.
Finally, if you have one of these printers and work in a "mixed"
environment with perhaps 400 dpi and/or 300 dpi printers that you also
print to on a regular basis then you might want to consider getting
Type 1 PS version of the Computer Modern fonts instead. They obviate
the need for the instructions above, and the savings in disc space
will be considerable since having printer fonts for several printers
takes lots of room, and the file sizes for 600 dpi are quite large
(the files grow roughly as D logD, where D is the resolution). These
fonts are made by Blue Sky Research, and work beautifully. Y&Y
software is a reseller for BSR and sells a "NEXTSTEP specific" version
of them which comes with appropriate instructions and installation
scripts.
8.12 How to get printer description files (PPD)?
PPD, where? printer description files, PPD
Adobe has a mail server and ftp site where you can get .PPD files.
They are:
ps-file-server@adobe.com (put "send help" in the mail body)
ftp.mv.us.adobe.com
8.13 What are the Canon part numbers for ink cartridges equivalent to those
NeXT's Color Printer uses?
ink cartridge, Canon Canon, ink cartridge
Part Numbers are:
Red: BJI-643 M
Yellow: BJI-643 Y
Blue: BJI-643 C
Black: BJI-643 Bk
8.14 JetPilot does not work with my JetDirect box, why?
JetPilot, JetDirect JetDirect, JetPilot eXTRAPRINT
It seems, that there is a bug in the /etc/rc-script. The bootpd is
given with to arguments -a -f, which are not available for the bootpd
under 3.3.
Make an entry in /etc/bootptab like this:
\#
\# host htype haddr iaddr bootfile
\#
printer 1 XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
where
* host: your given hostname for the printer (eg. picasso)
* haddr: The Ethernet hardware address (Can be seen, if you press
the TEST-Key on your JetDirect box.
* iaddr: Is the hostaddress for the printer (eg. 192.42.172.1)
Entries have to be done also in the Netinfo-database. It's like adding
a new host.
Insert the following line to your etc/rc.local script:
\#
\# Starting JetDirect-Printer configuration
\#
fbshow -B -I "Starting Printer initialization" -z 92
/usr/etc/bootpd -d /etc/bootptab >/dev/console 2>\&1
There is an additional FAQ available at:
ftp://ftp.gscorp.com/pub/support/HP_JetDirect_Configuration.rtfd.tar.g
z
8.15 powering down NeXTprinter during bootup, printer still works
power down, printer printer, printer down
Type the following to your rc.local.
\#turn off NeXT laser printer.
fbshow -B -I "Powering off NeXTprinter" -z 95
if [ -f /usr/etc/nppower ]; then
sleep 3
/usr/etc/nppower off
(echo 'powering off NeXTprinter') >/dev/console
fi
This works fine... the printer powers down immediately, and is
available for any app which wants it.
8.16 How to set up the HP LaserJet 4M?
HP Laserjet 4M
I solved the problem by building a serial cable based upon the pinouts
supplied by HP in their manual. Please note that the LJIII cable does
not work. In particular, pin 1 from the DIN plug must be connected to
pin 6 of the DB25. I used 38500 bps on both sides, and the 600 dpi
ppd.
Emulex offers the NETJet network interface which speaks lpd protocol,
unlike the HP unit.
8.17 Laserwriter NTX & NEXTSTEP
Laserwriter NTX
This are the pin assignments.
Eight-pin mini DIN-8 RS-422 Port
Pin Signal Description
1,3 SG Signal Ground
4 TxD+ Transmit Data +
5 TxD- Transmit Data -
8 RxD+ Receive Data +
9 RxD- Receive Data -
IBM-compatible DB-25 Plug LaserWriter DB-25 Plug
Signal Pin Pin Signal
Shield 1 ............ 1 Shield
TxD 2 ............ 3 RxD
RxD 3 ............ 2 TxD
RTS 4 ............ 4 RTS
CTS 5 ............ 5 CTS
DSR 6 ............ 8 DCD
GND 7 ............ 7 GND
............ 20 DTR
The other aspect is to set the DIP switch on the printer. Here are the
DIP switch settings:
Switch 1 Switch 2 Meaning
UP UP LocalTalk---RS-232 port disabled
DOWN UP Serial ports at 1200 Baud
UP DOWN Serial ports at 9600 Baud
DOWN DOWN RS-232 at 9600 Baud; RS-422 at 0 Baud
Switches 3 and 4 can probably be ignored---they're for strange stuff
like Diablo 630 and HP LaserJet emulation modes.
Switch 5 Switch 6 Meaning
DOWN DOWN XON/XOFF
UP UP XON/XOFF
DOWN UP ETX/ACK
UP DOWN DSR
8.18 Problems with gray levels in printout
gray levels color space PS Level2
If you have problems with your shades of gray (e.g. light gray is
indistinguishable from white) this might be well a problem in the
Level2 Color Space calibration of your printer.
To ensure, it's a problem of your printer (and not a problem of the
printer driver or PPD file) try the following:
* Save a printout to a file
* Edit the following line in your printout file:
/\_NXLevel2 systemdict/languagelevel known {languagelevel 2 ge}{false}i
felse \_\_NXdef
to:
/\_NXLevel2 false \_\_NXdef
* Send the modified file directly to the printer using the
commandline command lpr.
If you still have problem with the shades of gray, the printer
driver/PPD file is probably broken, otherwise your printer is broken,
which means he has problems with the Level2 color space calibration
(The given correction turns PS Level2 off).
8.19 Can't print using additional fonts
printer, fonts
In rare circumstances some printers refuse to print, if they don't
recognize a font. In these cases add the _nxfinal form property to the
printer's property list with NetInfo.
9 OBSOLETE BUT STILL INTERESTING?
This chapter contains information covered in the early days of the
FAQs. It is not updated anymore. Note that with new releases of
NEXTSTEP and OpenStep some information might still be useful to those,
who e.g. didn't update.
9.1 Where can I get NeXT paraphernalia?
Paraphernalia NeXT paraphernalia are no longer available. Let's stop
reading 1 minute and remember the times ..... Thanks!
9.2 Is there any way to change the text in the title bar of a terminal window?
There is no way of changing the title bar of a Terminal.app window in
2.x; in 3.x there is. Check Preferences (Title Bar): set CustomTitle,
type in the title, and hit CR (or Set Window) and voila!
[From: andre@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Andre Roberge)]
Actually, there is a way to change the title bar of a Terminal window
in 2.x (at least in 2.1 which is what I am using). It is somewhat
limited but it might be useful to some.
The trick is to make a symbolic link between /bin/csh (or whichever
shell one wishes to use) and a file in / named
"Whatever_you_want_to_appear_in_the_title_bar". Then select this new
"shell" in the terminal preference and, voila!, you'll have your
terminal window with /Whatever_you..... in the title bar.
You can edit Stuart's titlebar interactively from the "Window..."
Inspector (Command-3).
Stuart provides emulation of certain Operating System Command (OSC)
sequences which can be used to modify the titlebar under subprocess
control.
Stuart can change the title of the current window from the command
line. In Stuart is possible to get more descriptive titles by linking
/usr/ucb/rsh to /usr/hosts/. Then by adding /usr/hosts to your Stuart
ShellPath you can then get the hostname into the title bar:
$ dwrite StuartShellPaths <various dirs>:/usr/hosts
You should then type in the hostname as the shell to invoke (disable
the "Shell reads .login file" for this. You can also add hosts to your
.Stuartrc file:
Shell=golem.ps.uci.edu
SourceDotLogin=NO
WinLocX=545
WinLocY=563
Lines=24
|
WinLocX=76
WinLocY=833
For the localhost, link /bin/csh to /usr/hosts/, or even better
/usr/local/bin/tcsh instead of using rsh.
[From: Garance A Drosehn ]
For what it's worth, I do this with a script called "telnet_to" and a
(bash) function called "telnet_window". The function simply does a
local soil_pars="-Lines 32 -Keypad YES -Reverse \
YES -Strict YES -TestExit YES";
soil -Shell "telnet_to $1" $soil_pars
and the script is just:
#!bin/sh
/usr/ucb/telnet $*
echo ' '
echo ' --> telnet exited, press enter to close window.'
read -r Waste_Var
exit 0
This has a number of advantages, not the least of which being that I
can pop up a "telnet_window" to anywhere. I don't have to create links
for each host (though I do create aliases for the most common hosts),
and I can type "telnet_window" (or, e.g., "tel_aix") as a unix
command.
Also, if I lose the connection suddenly then the window stays around
until I get a chance to see what happened. I use telnet instead of rsh
because I generally connect to hosts which won't accept rsh's.
9.3 I can't get my pictures in OmniWeb
OmniWeb You have to install the OmniImage.service in your
/Library/Services or /LocalLibrary/Services (This is also a nice way
to get pictures converted in other applications as well.
You can ftp this from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
9.4 How do I remap the and | keys on my keyboard?
Keyboard
NeXT introduced a new keyboard configuration with the 040 products.
The
| keys which had been located on the main keyboard was moved to the
numeric keypad. Many users have since complained about it, and a work
around is to remap these keys using the demo application Keyboard
(/NextDeveloper/Demos/Keyboard), Mike Carlton's keyboardfix program:
ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/sources/next-interface/keyboardfix.tar.Z
...which lets you put these keys on shift-return or shift-delete. One
can hope that there will be a choice of keyboards in the future.
9.5 How do I stop NeXTMail/Sendmail adding &Mcirc;s onto the end of lines?
Sendmail
In /etc/sendmail.cf make this change:
[old code]
##### UUCP Mailer specification
#####
Muucp, P=/usr/bin/uux, F=msDFMhuU, S=13, R=23,
[new code]
##### UUCP Mailer specification
#####
Muucp, P=/usr/bin/uux, F=msDFMhuU, S=13, R=23, E=\n,
This has been fixed in 3.1, and the default mailhost sendmail is UUCP
oriented.
9.6 Why does NEXTSTEP 1.0 hang a few seconds after attempting to boot?
Boot hang, NS1.0
Release 1.0 contains a bug that can corrupt the kernel /odmach if a
user attempts to launch /odmach from the browser. The solution is to
copy a clean /odmach from another NeXT system. Be sure to change the
permissions of the newly installed /odmach to remove execute
permissions to prevent future occurrences of the same problem. Release
1.0a and beyond do not have this problem.
It is possible for the sdmach to get corrupted in the same way. Boot
from the OD, copy an uncorrupted version of the kernel to the hard
disk, and remove the execute bits from sdmach.
9.7 Modem hangs under NS2.0 by incoming calls
modem calls, incoming
There is a bug in the serial driver which causes getty to get stuck.
The situation arises after a successful uucico connection, subsequent
connections via modem will get a connection with the modem, but no
login prompt.
This is caused by getty hanging. A simple work around is to have a
process run in cron to reset the getty every 15 minutes:
#! /bin/sh -u
PIDS=`ps -ax | bm getty | grep -v bm | awk '{print $1}'`
kill -TERM $PIDS
Of course trying to connect when the script is running will not allow
you to connect, try again a minute later. This fix will not affect
on-going UUCP or interactive connections. This will probably be fixed
in the next kernel release.
This bug is corrected in NEXTSTEP 2.1 and later releases.
9.8 NS2.0 doesn't recognize /LocalApps path
/LocalApps, NS2.0
Workspace has its own internal application path. In 2.0 /LocalApps was
omitted. Improv needs to have /LocalApps in the Workspace path if you
have Improve installed in /LocalApps. The work around in 2.0 only is:
dwrite Workspace ApplicationPaths "~/Apps:/LocalApps:/NextApps: \
/NextDeveloper/Apps:/NextAdmin:/NextDeveloper/Demos"
This bug is corrected in NEXTSTEP 2.1 and later releases.
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From: scholz@NOSPAM.peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: mSQL
Date: 11 Apr 1998 00:32:54 GMT
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"Tim Weilkiens" <tim.weilkiens@kiel.netsurf.de> wrote:
>Daher auch meine Frage in einem anderen Posting: gibt es ein Shutdown-Sk=
>ript,
>das ausgefuehrt wird, wenn das System heruntergefahren wird. Da wuerde i=
>ch
>gerne
>noch ein paar rettende Aktionen einbauen.
Hm, wenn mich nicht alles täuscht (was gut sein kann), wird entweder
das Kommando 'shutdown' und/oder 'reboot' abgesetzt, bevor der
Rechner runterfährt.
Eine einfache, aber nicht unbedingt BSD konforme Lösung (gibt es die?)
wäre diese Kommandos durch ein Script zu ersetzen, die shutdonw
scripten ausführen und zum Schluß wieder das Originalkommando.
Wäre zumindest einen Versuch wert.
Ähm, wenn es aber nicht klappt, hilft nur noch ein Reboot über
den Affengriff!
Viele Grüße,
Bernhard.
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Subject: Neue Peanuts CD-ROM verfügbar!
Date: 11 Apr 1998 01:07:23 GMT
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Für alle die es schon lange erwartet haben:
Demnächst steht eine neue CD-ROM des Peanuts-Archivs ins Haus!
Die neue CD ist eine Update zum bisherigen Packet und wird in
zwei verschiedenen Formen erhältlich sein:
- einmal Solo (als reine Update CD)
- als Paket zusammen mit der Gesamtausgabe.
Preise werden noch bekanntgegeben.
Die Update CD enthält die neueste OpenStep, Rhapsody und NEXTSTEP
software bis April 98, sowie die kompletten NeXTanswers und GNUStep(!).
Verfügbarkeit, End-Preise und Bestellhinweise werden noch bekanntgegeben.
Händleranfragen sind erwünscht, bitte wenden sie sich an:
cdrom@penauts.org
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Subject: The NeXT-FAQ (Frequently asked questions)
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Summary: Frequently asked questions concerning NeXT related topics.
Posted-By: auto-faq 2.4
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Last-modified: Saturday, 11. March 1998
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The NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FAQ
_________________________________________________________________
THE NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP FAQ
OVERVIEW
* 1 Introduction
* 2 General information
* 3 What is ...
* 4 Miscellaneous information
* 5 Black (NeXT) hardware
* 6 White (Intel) hardware
* 7 Storage
* 8 Printing
* 9 Obsolete but still interesting?
CONTENTS
1 Introduction
1.1 README FIRST!
1.2 About this FAQ
1.3 Submissions
1.4 Availability
1.5 Copyright
1.6 Disclaimer
1.7 Thanks
2 General information
2.1 Information available but not in the written FAQ version
2.2 Where to get answers?
2.3 How may I contact NeXT, Inc.?
2.4 FTP servers
2.5 Software on CD
2.6 What is the current status of NEXTSTEP/OpenStep?
2.7 Will there be a public implementation of OpenStep?
2.8 Are there differences between Openstep for Mach and other
implementations?
2.9 What information is available by NeXT
2.10 What is the correct spelling?
2.11 How do I start an official NeXT User Group?
2.12 Are there differences in the NEXTSTEP implementations?
2.13 What are the names of the ftp sites that have NeXT-related files?
2.14 Additional information sources
2.15 How to get FTP files via e-mail.
2.16 References on Objective C
2.17 How to contact music interested people.
2.18 How to announce upcoming events
2.19 Can I mix different hardware running NEXTSTEP?
2.20 Can I exchange software running on different hardware?
3 What is ...
3.1 NEXTSTEP
3.2 Mach
3.3 OPENSTEP
3.4 Objective-C
3.5 NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Developer
3.6 D'OLE
3.7 PDO --- Portable Distributed Objects
3.8 EOF --- Enterprise Objects Framework
3.9 WebObjects
3.10 Rhapsody
3.11 WWW Browser
3.12 Newsreader
4 Miscellaneous information
4.1 How do I get pictures of people from remote sites to appear in
Mail.app and NewsGrazer?
4.2 How to manipulate and examine default settings
4.3 How do I run NextApps remotely?
4.4 Why does UUCP hangs on outgoing connections after sending the
password, but other communications software do not have a problem
with it?
4.5 How do I access the NeXT's Digital Webster Dictionary from a
program?
4.6 How do I get the arrow keys to work in csh?
4.7 What default affects menu location?
4.8 How to get Gourmet to boot up the Mathematica 2.0 kernel?
4.9 Manipulating the Loginwindow
4.10 How does one set UNIX man pages to be viewed in nroff format with
DL like the standard manual pages in NS2.x?
4.11 Appending a signature and addition headers to your e-mail
4.12 How can I quickly find a file if I don't know its directory?
4.13 Mail.app suddenly stopped working!
4.14 Recycler doesn't work anymore?!
4.15 How to hear sound from CDPlayer.app thought NEXTSTEP system?
4.16 How do I decompress a file with the extension .compressed?
4.17 How do I change the Workspace compression app?
4.18 console: loginwindow: netinfo problem - No such directory.
4.19 Root login not possible on client machine
4.20 How to boot NEXTSTEP from the second (higher SCSI ID) HD?
4.21 How to make swapfile shrink to the normal size?
4.22 Does netinfo work between machines running NEXTSTEP 2.x and 3.x?
4.23 Why does the console user "own" the external disk filesystem?
4.24 How to limit coredump sizes?
4.25 What is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup?
4.26 How can I change the mouse pointer shape and color?
4.27 How do I customize BuildDisk to create a bootable disk of my own
configuration?
4.28 Are there any more dwrites useful for the workspace, ...?
4.29 What is the @LongLink message from gnutar all about?
4.30 What stands the file .place3_0.wmd for?
4.31 How to create transparent icons with IconBuilder
4.32 How to access the MAC format of a mixed DOS/MAC CD-ROM
4.33 Is there a PPP for NEXTSTEP
4.34 NIS and OpenStep
4.35 System overloaded due to swapping
4.36 Swapfile issues
4.37 Garbage collection and Objective-C
4.38 Setting up an anonymous FTP server
5 Black (NeXT) hardware
5.1 What disk drives will work with the NeXT?
5.2 Will a 68030 NeXT Computer run NEXTSTEP 3.3?
5.3 Does a FUJITSU MO (256 MB) works with NeXT original Hardware?
5.4 Can I run my SCSI-2 disks in synchronous mode?
5.5 How do I configure my HP 660 to boot properly?
5.6 What is the procedure for installing a Fujitsu M2263SA/SB SCSI
Disk as the NeXT Boot Disk?
5.7 How to mount a corrupted OD that won't automount?
5.8 What non-NeXT CD Players that work with a NeXT?
5.9 What are some other sources of toner cartridges and trays for the
NeXT laser printer?
5.10 What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with a NeXT?
5.11 What can I do to prevent my NeXT printer from running all the
time?
5.12 What type of microphones will work with the NeXT?
5.13 How do I connect a modem to the NeXT?
5.14 Are there any alternative sources for the SCSI-II to SCSI-I cable
required to attach external SCSI devices to the 040 NeXTs?
5.15 What fax modems will work with the NeXT?
5.16 How may I attach more than two serial ports to the NeXT?
5.17 What is the best and/or cheapest way to connect a NeXT to a thick
Ethernet?
5.18 How can I connect my NeXT to the telephone line and use it like
an answering Machine?
5.19 What color monitors can I use with the Color NeXT machines?
5.20 Where can I get 13W3 to BNC adapters to connect third party color
monitors?
5.21 How may I attach Centronics or 16 bit wide parallel ports to the
NeXT?
5.22 Why does an unused serial port consume cpu?
5.23 How to adjust MegaPixel Display brightness and focus?
5.24 I want to emulate a macintosh, how?
5.25 My NeXT laser printer fails to fully eject the sheet - how to
fix?
5.26 What are the NeXT mouse connections?
5.27 What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
5.28 What is the NeXT SIMM tool?
5.29 Where can I purchase a NeXT machine?
5.30 Where to obtain hardware service?
5.31 What types of NeXT machines were manufactured?
5.32 What can be done about older 030 NeXT cubes that have a fan that
turns in the "wrong" direction?
5.33 Can I connect SONY MPX-111N to my 68030 NeXT Computer?
5.34 Why does the OD continually spin up and spin down?
5.35 How many colors can NeXT machines display?
5.36 Why is my machine so slow when I run the monochrome and
NeXTdimension displays?
5.37 Where to obtain replacement mouse parts?
5.38 Where to obtain extra batteries?
5.39 How to convert a Turbo system to use ADB?
5.40 68030 board in the same NeXTcube as a 68040 board?
5.41 How to expand DSP memory?
5.42 How to boot a NeXT without a monitor?
5.43 Where can I get black spray paint for my NeXT?
5.44 What makes aged NeXT monitors dim?
5.45 How to use two internal hard drives
6 White (Intel) hardware
6.1 What about support for NeXT Computer specific hardware features
such as the DSP?
6.2 Do Multi-Architecture Binaries take a lot of extra disk space?
6.3 How difficult is it to recompile existing NeXT applications over
to NEXTSTEP/Intel?
6.4 When developing programs, are there any portability issues I
should be aware of?
6.5 What is the difference between the NEXTSTEP/Intel User Environment
and Developer Environment?
6.6 If a specific I/O card is not supported by NeXT, can 3rd parties
write drivers for NEXTSTEP/Intel?
6.7 How is NEXTSTEP/Intel installed?
6.8 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on 386 machines?
6.9 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the Cyrix 486SLC?
6.10 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the future Intel Microprocessors in
the x86 family?
6.11 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on portable computers?
6.12 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel be able to run MS-DOS and Windows programs?
6.13 How will my DOS and Windows applications perform under
NEXTSTEP/Intel?
6.14 Is the window I use to run Microsoft Windows applications
resizable?
6.15 Will this DOS/Windows compatibility system allow me to run
several DOS programs at once?
6.16 Can I cut and paste between DOS/Windows sessions and NEXTSTEP
applications?
6.17 Can I use both DOS and NEXTSTEP/Intel partitions on the same hard
disk?
6.18 Can NEXTSTEP/Intel read, write, and format DOS and Mac floppies?
6.19 NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.1, DOS, Linux/NT multi-boot system?
6.20 NeXTSTEP on INTEL, KEYBOARD-ERROR ...
6.21 NS 3.2 Tseng ET4000 Video Driver doesn't work.
6.22 Accessing ROM monitor on Intel-System, how?
6.23 Adaptec 2940 Fast and Sync. SCSI explanation...
6.24 Do EIDE-Drives work with NEXTSTEP?
6.25 Anyone have a driver yet that does 8 bit color on an ET4000/w32p
card? (Hercules Dynamite Pro VLB)
6.26 Does a Glidepoint pointing device work with NEXTSTEP?
6.27 AppleTalk under NEXTSTEP/Intel?
6.28 Booting hangs with black screen
6.29 Why are the features of my graphic card useless?
6.30 How to use MIDI without the MusicKit?
6.31 Installation problems with EIDE and ATAPI drives
6.32 Error message during boot time
6.33 Does NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP run with ...
6.34 RAM greater 64MB, now I get a black screen!
6.35 Lost root password
7 Storage
7.1 Disktab help needed: ST15230N
7.2 Formatting DEC DSP3105 with 1024-byte blocks.
7.3 My formatted disk has much less space then advertised!
7.4 Can't initialise my disk within the Workspace
7.5 Initialing Opticals for NeXT
7.6 How to use a tape drive ?
7.7 How to recover from an partially formatted disk?
7.8 What about the ZIP drive?
7.9 How to partition a 4GB drive
7.10 How to mount/ignore a disk during boot
7.11 Can't read multisession CD-ROMs!
8 Printing
8.1 What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with NEXTSTEP?
8.2 What fonts can I use with NEXTSTEP?
8.3 How can I save my printable documents to a postscript file?
8.4 How can I print only the even or odd pages of a document?
8.5 How do I get banner pages on my printer output?
8.6 How do I get [la]TeX files to print correctly on non-NeXT
printers?
8.7 What if I have a PostScript font has not been ported to NEXTSTEP?
8.8 What color printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with
NEXTSTEP?
8.9 How can I make the Page Layout default to A4 in all applications?
8.10 /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: syntax error at line 31: `end
of file' unexpected?
8.11 How to get TeX with NEXTSTEP to make proper fonts for a 600 dpi
laserwriter?
8.12 How to get printer description files (PPD)?
8.13 What are the Canon part numbers for ink cartridges equivalent to
those NeXT's Color Printer uses?
8.14 JetPilot does not work with my JetDirect box, why?
8.15 powering down NeXTprinter during bootup, printer still works
8.16 How to set up the HP LaserJet 4M?
8.17 Laserwriter NTX & NEXTSTEP
8.18 Problems with gray levels in printout
8.19 Can't print using additional fonts
9 Obsolete but still interesting?
9.1 Where can I get NeXT paraphernalia?
9.2 Is there any way to change the text in the title bar of a terminal
window?
9.3 I can't get my pictures in OmniWeb
9.4 How do I remap the and | keys on my keyboard?
9.5 How do I stop NeXTMail/Sendmail adding &Mcirc;s onto the end of
lines?
9.6 Why does NEXTSTEP 1.0 hang a few seconds after attempting to boot?
9.7 Modem hangs under NS2.0 by incoming calls
9.8 NS2.0 doesn't recognize /LocalApps path
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The NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FAQ
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1 INTRODUCTION
1.1 README FIRST!
This is now preliminary version of the FAQ. It hasn't been updated for
2 years. Because I was lacking to update it on a regular basis, I'm
now struggling to continue working on it. So be aware, that most
information isn't still up-to-date! (In fact it's sometimes more than
2 years old). However I believe, I've rechecked a lot and most
information should be correct. Please let me now, if you discover any
wrong information.
This FAQ is going to be updated monthly, at least on the Peanuts Web
site. Postings to the newsgroups might change, because the FAQ is
really huge now (over 110 pages, using >200kB).
Please excuse misspellings, wrong grammar, etc. English isn't my
native language and I have only school knowledge.
Have fun!
1.2 About this FAQ
These are the frequently asked questions concerning NeXT, NeXTSTEP or
any other NeXT related topics.
This compilation is meant primarily as a service to the (comp.sys.next
and de.comp.sys.next) community.
NeXT Software,Inc. was a privately held company, heading towards
software business. It sold NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP its award winning OS
and several other software packages (most included with NEXTSTEP):
EOF, NEXTSTEP Developer, WebObjects, NetInfo, ...
However all properties of NeXT Software, Inc. are now owned by Apple
Computer. Apple is still distributed the NeXT software and currently
developing a new operating system based on the NeXT technology, code
name: Rhapsody.
The latest version is OPENSTEP (based on the white paper 'OpenStep'),
which runs not only on top of Mach (as NEXTSTEP does) but also on
Solaris, Windows NT, Windows 95, HP-UX. The user of NeXT's software is
confronted with a wide range of different software and hardware.
To help in the unaware user, this FAQ was founded. But also
professional users might find some interesting information, which they
didn't knew already.
Note that NEXTSTEP,OpenStep and Rhapsody questions often concern
related topics like Objective-C, UNIX, administration tasks, etc. for
which already separate FAQs do exist. See the new.answers newsgroup
for additional FAQs, if your problem isn't covered by this FAQ.
1.3 Submissions
As with all FAQs the quality of the information provided here is
mostly depending on the Usenet community, which in most cases serves
for the information resource. Feel free to e-mail the FAQ author to
contribute, or send error reports.
If you contact the author, use the following subject for submissions:
FAQ submission. To report errors use: FAQ error. Additionally you
might want to add the chapter where the submission/error report
belongs to.
1.4 Availability
This FAQ is published monthly in the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups and in
the near future news.answer.
It may be downloaded via FTP from
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData/Documents/faq/. Special
additions for redistributors and homeusers do exist.
This FAQ may be accessed only through Peanuts as well:
http://www.peanuts.org/
In the near future we want to implement an e-mail service for those
who don't have access to news. You may add yourself to the mailinglist
by sending an e-mail with subject: FAQ mailme. Note that this service
isn't available, yet completely, because there is too little
interested. However I keep a list of all the registered people and
they will still receive e-mail copies.
1.5 Copyright
This FAQ is copyrighted by Bernhard Scholz. (Internet e-mails:
scholzb@peanuts.org)
Mentioned trademarks belong to their holder and are not explicitly
listened.
We do not collect any royalties, charge any fees, or compensate anyone
in connection with this endeavor, but of course we would be happy
about each e-mail commenting on the FAQ, about pizzas (lasagne is
accepted, too :-) ), postcards, ...
Anyway we reserve a copyright on the the published information in this
FAQ. Any questions concerning other redistribution should be send to
the author of the FAQ.
Reprinting of this FAQ, even in parts, is prohibited without
permission by the author except for printings for private use.
Newsletter editors wishing to excerpt from this work for publication
should consider using local electronic bulletin boards to disseminate
this information rather than preparing hardcopies. This allows for
readers to access the most recent information, and perhaps save a
couple of trees.
1.6 Disclaimer
Of course there is no warranty in any case using the information
provided here. We haven't tested the information to be correct.
We are not affiliated with any of the companies mentioned in this FAQ.
1.7 Thanks
Especially we want to thank the Usenet community for contributing to
the FAQ and all the people who have written us.
Then I want to thank the people who worked on the FAQ before I did
take them over (in order of working): Pascal Chesnais and Erik Kay,
Nathan F. Janette, Maximilian Goedel (never released anything but
cleaned up some things for me).
Thanks also to Karl Ewald, who contributed his latex2html Perl script
which replaced the non working original latex2html version.
2 GENERAL INFORMATION
General information
2.1 Information available but not in the written FAQ version
pinout patches
There is additional information available for the following topics:
mouse pinouts, monitor cable pinouts, common addresses, mousepointer
patch, windowmanager patch.
These inforamations are not included in the written FAQ, because they
are considered rarely referenced resources and of not much use for the
written FAQ. However you'll get these information when you download
the whole FAQ via FTP or HTTP as a package for your computer. Please
look at http://www.peanuts.org/FAQ/ for further information.
2.2 Where to get answers?
If you run into a problem, first read the FAQ of course :-) Second you
might consider asking NeXT directly through the electronic service:
nextanswers@next.com. Send an e-mail with subject: ascii help index to
start.
If all fails, post to the newsgroups concerning NeXT related topics:
comp.sys.next.*, de.comp.sys.next.
2.3 How may I contact NeXT, Inc.?
Next, Inc. Contacting NeXT, Inc. Address of NeXT, Inc.
NeXT, Inc. can be reached under the following addresses.
USA: NeXT, Inc.
900 Chesapeake Drive
Redwood City, CA 94063
Voice: 800-848-NeXT (Redwood City #)
Voice: (415)-366-0900
Japan: NeXT marketing div. of Canon - Japan
Phone: (81)-44-549-5295
Fax: (81)-44-549-5462
EUROPE: Munich:
Phone: (49)-89-996-5310
UK: Technology House
Meadowbank
Furlong Road
Bourne End
Bucks
SL8 5AJ
Phone: (44)-1628 535222
Fax: (44)-1628 535200
Note: numbers abroad are listed with the country codes first. You will
need to dial the international access number of your long distance
carrier before proceeding to dialing the country code, area code and
phone number.
2.4 FTP servers
FTP Software
The FAQ mentions a lot of software packages which you might find
useful. In general there are two big sites serving Europe and the US.
These sites keep most of the software available and do mirror
themselves to keep up to date (although the structure of the archive
differ). If the software isn't on one of these sites, the appr
opriate site is listed in the text.
If you get slow connections you might want to consider contacting a
mirror of the both sites. For the Peanuts archive (Europe) the WWW
pages http://www.peanuts.org give you links to an updated list of
mirrors and other FTP sites.
The addresses are:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/ (formerly the ftp.cs.orst.edu archive)
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/ (Peanuts archive in Europe)
ftp://ftp.evolution.com/ (Peanuts mirror USA) ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/
(Peanuts mirror Switzerland)
2.5 Software on CD
There are currently two CD (sets) which serve you with
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep software:
Nebula. Nebula is published by Walnut Creek and mostly contains actual
recompiled software for all supported hardware platforms. It might be
the best choice for those who don't own a compiler. A big font
collection and a developer section complete the disk.
http://www.cdrom.com/
Peanuts Archive Disks. The Peanuts FTP Archive in Munich distributes
their complete NEXTSTEP/OpenStep archive on CD. This currently brings
you 4CDs full with software. Although the software isn't compiled for
each hardware (it is provided 'as uploaded') it is the most complete
software and information resource available on CD. (It includes the
NeXTanswers published by NeXT). http://www.peanuts.org/,
cdrom@peanuts.org
Fatted Calf CD-ROM. The Fatted Calf CD-ROM is published by Ensuing
Technologies, LasVegas, Nevada. Currently I don't know it's special
contents.
Big Green CD. Selected software for NEXTSTEP. Also this software is on
any other CD, too. It might be a good startes collection.
http://skylee.com/BGCD.html, ack@skylee.com
Font Garden for NEXTSTEP CDROM. Some more fonts for computers running
NEXTSTEP. These fonts should be capable of the NEXTSTEP encoding
sheme. However we got noticed that only very few are ISO-LATIN_1. So
it is possible of most interested to English speaking countries.
http://www.cdrom.com/
Clips for QuickTime. Quicktime is NeXT's native format for movies, so
some samples might be quite nice. Note: On the latest Peanuts Archive,
you'll get about 200MB of quicktime movies which might be enough, too.
http://www.cdrom.com/
2.6 What is the current status of NEXTSTEP/OpenStep?
status, NEXTSTEP status, OpenStep
The third production version 3.3, has been released for Intel
Processors (i486 and higher) as well as for NeXT hardware (not
manufactured any longer but still supported), HP workstations and Sun
workstations.
OpenStep versions are announced and will be available this year (1996)
for Windows NT, Windows 95, Mach, Solaris and hopefully HP-UX. The
status for DEC machines and their OS (OSF/1, OpenVMS) is unknown. At
least it is uncertain that there will be a port to OSF/1 or even
OpenVMS, because DEC is doing the port alone. At least you can run
OpenStep on DEC machines running Windows NT in the near future. For
Sun's Solaris systems OpenStep will probably be part of the
NeoDesktop.
There will be no NEXTSTEP 4.0, because NeXT changed the naming
conventions. NEXTSTEP 4.0 (also sometimes referenced as 'Mecca') is
now named 'OpenStep for Mach'
2.7 Will there be a public implementation of OpenStep?
Yes, there is a project by GNU. The so named GNUStep is available in
pre-alpha state from the archive sites. Be aware that it is not fully
functional and currently requires Motif.
In its current state, GNUStep is on it's way to port the FoundationKit
completely. This alone makes it worth to give it a try.
2.8 Are there differences between Openstep for Mach and other implementations?
Yes there are. OpenStep for Mach will include all the well known
features from NEXTSTEP (Services, Filters, SoundKit, ...) which the
other implementations will lack, due to the underlying OS.
To get all the benefits which is offered in NEXTSTEP today, you need
to go for OpenStep for Mach.
2.9 What information is available by NeXT
information NeXT
NeXT, Inc. now operates an automatic e-mail response system. Send
e-mail to "nextanswers@next.com" with the subject
"ascii help index"
to start.
If you do have access to the world wide web, you even want to try the
following URL: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/.
2.10 What is the correct spelling?
NeXT did (and probably will) change their naming conventions a lot.
E.g. NEXTSTEP is the current correct spelling for their operating
system. With the shipping of OpenStep, there will be no more NEXTSTEP,
but OpenStep for Mach/Solaris/HP-UX/Windows95/Wind
owsNT.
Incorrect spellings are: NeXTSTEP, NeXTstep, NeXTStep.
A common shortcut used in the newsgroups is: NS for NEXTSTEP.
2.11 How do I start an official NeXT User Group?
NUG user groups NeXT user groups To start a user group, just send
e-mail to user_groups@next.com.
2.12 Are there differences in the NEXTSTEP implementations?
No, there are no differences beside the DSP, which is a hardware
feature of NeXT computers. On other hardware platforms you have to buy
additional hardware.
2.13 What are the names of the ftp sites that have NeXT-related files?
FTP, servers
There are too many to list them all, so are here are just a few.
NEXTSTEP: next-ftp.peak.org
ftp.peanuts.org
nova.cc.purdue.edu
sonata.cc.purdue.edu
umd5.umd.edu
ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de
MIT GNU: aeneas.mit.edu
MIT X: export.lcs.mit.edu
music: princeton.edu
2.14 Additional information sources
Additional information Information, additional Every NeXT machine
owner has access to manuals to a degree. Network and System
Administration (NSA), for example contains answers to many of the
questions asked to comp.sys.next. Some of the important man pages are
reproduced in the NSA as appendices.
User manuals were shipped with every NeXT. Additional copies available
from NeXT (N6002/N6003/N6014/N6026) $25.
The following books are available directly from NeXT:
* Operating System Software
* NeXTstep Concepts
* NeXTstep Reference, v. 1
* NeXTstep Reference, v. 2
* Development Tools
* Sound, Music, and Signal Processing: Concepts
* Sound, Music, and Signal Processing: Reference
* Writing Loadable Kernel Servers
* Technical Summaries
* Supplemental Documentation
Unix man pages, which are included in the online docs.
BSD unix documentation (MISC, PS1, PS2, SMM, USD). Available from to
USENIX site members. A lot of this has been integrated into the NeXT
documentation. Some of this is sorely missing. The SMM Unix System
Manager's Manual is really useful!
USENIX Association
2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215
Berkeley, CA 94710
USA +1 510 528 8649
fax +1 510 548 5738
office@usenix.org
* PS1 = Programmer's Supplementary Documents, Volume 1
* PS2 = Programmer's Supplementary Documents, Volume 2
* SMM = System Manager's Manual
* USD = User's Supplementary Documents
The SMM and the rest of the berkeley documentation are also available
directly and for free via anon ftp e.g. from
ftp.uu.net /packages/bsd-sources/share/doc.
To format them properly for viewing and printing on the NeXT use nroff
with the package indicated by the file suffix (e.g. to format the
documentation file 0.t use nroff -mt 0.t).
Adobe documentation. Available machine-readable by e-mail from
ps-file-server@adobe.com. Hardcopy available from Adobe Developer
Support Line +1 415 961-4111 for a nominal charge. NeXT last shipped
these as part of the 1.0a release; hardcopies appeared in 0.9
Technical Documentation, were omitted in 1.0, and have returned in
updated form in Supplemental Documentation of the 2.0 Tech Docs (which
is not available on-line).
Get NextAnswers for Digital Librarian from NeXT. The current versions
are actually on ftp.next.com or available via the mailserver at
nextanswers@next.com.
Get NeXT Support Bulletin from the archives. It is meant for support
centers.
Another good source of information is the archives of previously
posted notes from the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups. Note that since the
split of comp.sys.next, there is a group archive maintained at
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData/Usenet.
NeXTstep Advantage book is available electronically from the archive
servers.
The file name is NeXTstepAdvantage.tar.Z; (its compressed size is
about 1.3 megabytes; uncompressed, it's about 9.5 megabytes). It is a
good introduction to the NeXT programming environment.
2.15 How to get FTP files via e-mail.
FTP, e-mail access Some ftp sites are configured as an e-mail archive
server. This means you can upload and download files via e-mail.
Send mail to: archive-server@cc.purdue.edu
------------- mail-server@cs.tu-berlin.de
(with the subject line help and you will get a complete description of
this service)
Submissions: Mail should be sent to archive-server@cc.purdue.edu with
the subject of 'submission' (no ticks) if a person is submitting
material to the archives. They need to include a 1-2 sentence
description of the submission, the OS release the product runs on, and
if it is source, binary, newsletter, etc.
2.16 References on Objective C
Objective-C, documents Objective-C and other useful Object-oriented
programming references:
Budd, Timothy, An Introduction to Object-Oriented Programming
(Addison-Wesley) [It discusses Smalltalk, Object Pascal, C++ and
Objective-C]
Cox, Brad J., Object Oriented Programming: An Evolutionary Approach
ISBN 0-201-10393-1. (Addison-Wesley) [Note: 2nd edition - ISBN is
0-201-54834-8 and has coauthor A.J. Novobilski]
Huizenga, Gerrit, Slides from a short course on Objective-C available
via anonymous ftp from:
sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/docs/ObjC.frame.Z, ObjC.ps.Z, or
OldObjC.wn.tar.Z
Meyer, Bertrand, Object-Oriented Software Construction
(Prentice-Hall).
NeXT Technical Documentation
Pinson and Weiner, Objective-C: Object-Oriented Programming Techniques
(Addison-Wesley). 350 pages, ISBN 0 201 50828 1, paperback.
User Reference Manual for Objective-C which is available from
Stepstone Corporation. (203)426-1875. Note: There are some differences
between Stepstone's Objective-C and NeXT's.
2.17 How to contact music interested people.
Music, contacts
Since NeXT has become for now the platform of choice for much of the
computer music composition and research community, the newsgroup
comp.music is one good place to find people with information and
interest in music on the NeXT.
There is also a mailing list specifically for NeXT music. For posting
to the dist list: nextmusic@horowitz.eecs.umich.edu
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change addresses, etc.:
nextmusic-request@horowitz.eecs.umich.edu
2.18 How to announce upcoming events
Announcements Please send any announcements of upcoming NeXT-related
events to next-announce@digifix.com These events will be posted to
comp.sys.next.announce. Be sure to send your announcement in plenty of
time to have it posted prior to the event. One to two weeks in advance
would be a good idea.
Since postings will be carried across many networks, commercial
announcements may be edited down to reflect network usage policies.
Look for current guidelines posted weekly in the newsgroup.
2.19 Can I mix different hardware running NEXTSTEP?
NeXT, networking Networking
Of course! NEXTSTEP is design to plug and play with existing NeXT
installations. NeXT has addressed interoperability between NEXTSTEP
systems in the following ways:
* NEXTSTEP systems share identical networking capabilities.
* NEXTSTEP systems share the same Distributed Objects.
* NEXTSTEP systems use the same system and network administration
services.
* NEXTSTEP systems use the same mass storage format. Yes, you can
take a external SCSI drive, removable media (e.g. Bernoulli etc)
or floppy disk and use it interchangeably between NeXT Computers
running NEXTSTEP.
2.20 Can I exchange software running on different hardware?
With the shipping of NEXTSTEP 3.x binaries are distributed FAT. This
means, that a binary might include different versions of the
executable for each hardware platform NEXTSTEP is running on. On the
archive sites you might easily recognize the supported h
ardware by a key letter: N = NeXT computers, I=Intel based, H=HP
hardware, S=Sun hardware. A FAT binary is runable by every supported
hardware listed in the binary file. NeXT ships tools to examine such a
fat binary and to add/strip different hardwa
re modules to/from a binary.
The correct spelling for a fat binary is: MAB binary (multi
architecture binary) but most commonly 'fat' is used.
With the shipping of OpenStep this will change. OpenStep applications
are only sourcecode compatible and have to be recompiled for each
architecture. This implies that you need a compiler for future
PD/SW/FW-software, although OpenStep for Mach will still
support FAT binaries and NEXTSTEP 3.x applications will continue to
run under OpenStep for Mach.
3 WHAT IS ...
What is ...
This chapter tries to give you some overview over NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP
software and related software. For a detailed description you should
contact the producer's WWW server. E.g. for more information about
OPENSTEP contact http://www.next.com/
3.1 NEXTSTEP
NEXTSTEP
NEXTSTEP is a complete development and user environment by NeXT it
provides an unique GUI (graphical user interface), which currently
gets copied by several other OS provider like Microsoft, combined with
the currently most advanced and tested OS, named Mach. NeXT applied
several changes to the Mach kernel to add special features which makes
NEXTSTEP unique.
NEXTSTEP comes with a lot of development kits (bundles of classes to
build on), like: Sound Kit, Indexing Kit, 3D Graphics Kit, Database or
EOF Kit and Application Kit.
Bundled with NEXTSTEP are several user applications which enhance the
daily use dramatically: NeXTMail (a MIME compatible mail application),
Edit (a simple but powerful editor), FaxReader (for reading incoming
faxes, you are able to send faxes from every application which
supports printing), DigitalWebster (Webster's Ninth New Collegiate
Dictionary and Collegiate Thesaurus), Digital Librarian (indexing and
full text search utility, usable over groups of files) Preview (a
PostScript and TIFF display utility), Terminal (UNIX terminal
application for VT100 and TN3270 emulation), TeX (a well known
compiler for formatted text), SYBASE and ORACLE adapters (to contact
to SYBASE and ORACLE databases within EOF applications).
One special thing about NEXTSTEP is the display system. NeXT uses DPS
(Display Post Script), which gives you true WYSIWYG on every NEXTSTEP
system. The window server supports PostScript Level II, Interactive
RenderMan and Photorealistic RenderMan (an distributed engine for fast
high quality rendering, based on Pixar's RenderMan).
To be used in networks, NEXTSTEP supports NFS, NetInfo, Novell Netware
(as client only), Ethernet and Token Ring and different filesystems
(Mac, DOS, ISO 9660, High Sierra, Rock Ridge).
For multimedia purposes NeXT uses Lempel-Ziv compression for text,
Audio Transform Compression for Sound (comparable to Sony MiniDisc),
JPEG for TIFF and Group 4 for Fax. Of course these are only standard
modes and NEXTSTEP is extensible to use other methods too.
For system administration (remember that NEXTSTEP is using Mach as an
UNIX derivate), NeXT supplies several administration applications
which make it easy to configure NEXTSTEP as needed, like:
SimpleNetworkStarter, UserManager, PrintManager, NFSManager,
HostManager, NetInfo Manager, BuildDisk, Upgrader and the complete
documentation and manual pages online.
3.2 Mach
Mach
Mach is the the basic OS layer NeXT uses for NEXTSTEP. It is a micro
kernel, which means it is extensible at runtime. Micro kernel often
stands for a small kernel size, too, but due to the compatibility to
BSD 4.3 Mach is currently about 1MB in size.
Features of Mach are: loadable kernel services (extensions during
runtime), different scheduling algorithms, an advanced messaging
system, an advanced memory allocation mechanism (copy on demand, world
wide message broadcasting), true multitasking, multi-threading and BSD
compatibility.
3.3 OPENSTEP
OPENSTEP
OPENSTEP is the latest release of NeXT's NEXTSTEP with the ability to
be OS independent (NEXTSTEP depends on Mach).
OPENSTEP is currently available for Mach, Windows NT and Solaris and
will get available for other operating systems in the future.
The architecture of OPENSTEP was made public in late 1995 and since
then GNU is working on a public port of OPENSTEP to e.g. X11 based
UNIX systems.
To express the new standard, 'OPENSTEP/Mach' is now the correct
spelling for the formerly named NEXTSTEP product by NeXT, but it is
known that NeXT itself is still using the same version numbering
scheme for at least the Mach product line, so the first release of
OPENSTEP for Mach is equivalent to NEXTSTEP 4.0 and in fact the first
OPENSTEP product is named 'OPENSTEP/Mach 4.0'.
OPENSTEP is supposed to be an industry standard for developing object
oriented, system independent, scalable solutions for client/server
architectures. It was adopted by Sun, Hewlett Packard and Digital. It
provides distributed applications through PDO (Portable Distributed
Objects) and D'OLE (Distributed OLE) based on CORBA. The usage of EOF
supplies object persistence with traditional relational databases. And
finally with WebObjects, objects are accessible through the internet
or in your own private network.
OPENSTEP, like NEXTSTEP 3.3 provides several kits for software
developers like: Application Kit and Foundation Kit as well as Display
PostScript.
Applications written for OPENSTEP are sourcecode compatible to all
other architectures running OPENSTEP, although fat binaries are only
available under OPENSTEP for Mach (because the binary format is
depending on the operating system). It's rumored, that OPENSTEP
applications will also compile fine under Apple's new Rhapsody
version.
For the NEXTSTEP user OPENSTEP doesn't take away old known features.
In addition with OPENSTEP for Mach you get Mach enhancements, an
enhanced workspace manager, Perl5, TaylerUUCP, PPP and Samba.
Old applications will continue to run under OPENSTEP for Mach and need
to be recompiled to run under Windows NT, Solaris, and other OPENSTEP
platforms. Which goes side by side to become true OPENSTEP
applications-
The following are some new advantages/disadvantages over the known
NEXTSTEP product:
* documented NEXTIME library for developing
* faster message handling
* handling of disks >2GB in automatically. Paritioning size is still
limited to 2GB.
* no Novell Netware support (supposed to be included with OPENSTEP
4.1)
* Renderman still included
* Indexing Kit available by third party (MiscKit)
* no more POSIX! (Hopefully included again in OPENSTEP 4.1)
3.4 Objective-C
Objective-C
To develop applications NeXT uses Objective-C as its native
programming language. Objective-C is a more strict OO language then
C++ but covers C as well as C++. Because NeXT uses the GNU C/C++
compiler, you go with the most spreaded and tested C compiler
available for most UNIX platforms of today. (Of course you can use
Objective-C on every platform on which gcc is available).
Objective-C is different to other languages in the way it executes
code. Objective-C uses a runtime library to dynamically access objects
at runtime. This allows you to change objects at runtime etc. All this
goes with nearly no speed penalty, because hashing mechanisms are used
to access the different methods of an object.
There is also ObjC which is an different product, available as a
commercial compiler for different operating systems. Don't mix up
things by using the expression ObjC instead of Objective-C. For
shortcut purposes the NeXT community also uses the term ObjC/Obj-C but
of course thinks of Objective-C by NeXT.
Objective-C isn't standardized, yet.
In Objective-C you are able to mix code. E.g. you can use C++ and C in
any Objective-C program.
Objective-C is a simple and concise object-oriented extension to
ANSI-C. It has a runtime messaging facility and offers dynamic
binding. Distributed objects are supported and the code is optimized
for native compilations.
It's syntax and programming technique is much like in SmallTalk. Using
Objective-C you can even message objects in other applications, also
over a network!
3.5 NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Developer
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Developer
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Developer is currently the only way to develop
applications under NEXTSTEP because it includes all the necessary
include files and libraries.(Of course you can get any GNU C version
precompiled, but it won't help you without the include files and
linker libraries).
In addition to a precompiled GCC, include files and the linker
libraries you will get the famous NeXT developer tools: ProjectBuilder
(your commando center for building applications and managing sources),
InterfaceBuilder (for designing the application's GUI and making
object connections), an graphical addition to GDB (GNU Debugger)
integrated in Edit (NEXTSTEP) or ProjectBuilder (OPENSTEP),
MallocDebug (for seeking memory leaks), HeaderViewer (access class
information in header files and in documented form in a browser),
DBModeler (for building data models, based on Database Kit) (NEXTSTEP
only), Yap (an interactive PostScript interpreter and viewer),
IconBuilder (a very simple but extensible pixel-based editor for
creating icons) and popular UNIX utilities like GNU Emacs, yacc, lex,
vi...
3.6 D'OLE
D'OLE
D'OLE is a shortcut for Distributed OLE. OLE is Microsoft's standard
for Object Linking and Embedding and is currently not distributable
across platforms. With D'OLE you can distribute OLE objects across the
network like e.g. in SOM by IBM. But D'OLE is more. It uses NeXT's
object model PDO (Portable Distributed Objects) from Unix to Windows
platforms and enables OLE objects to communicate with OPENSTEP objects
natively, which means without changing the application. OPENSTEP
objects behave like OLE objects and vice versa.
D'OLE also supports EOF (Enterprise Objects Framework) which enables a
distributed computing environment to access database and provides an
infinitely flexible choice of application deployment of application
deployment strategies.
D'OLE uses the Foundation Framework, Distributed Object Framework and
other core classes. It comes bundled with C/Objective-C compiler and
GNU make, although Microsoft Visual C++ is required. Further you get a
portable nmserver, Mach emulation and on-line documentation.
3.7 PDO --- Portable Distributed Objects
PDO
PDO is a shortcut for Portable Distributed Objects. In the near future
PDO will become CORBA 2.0 compliant.
It is the industry's first product to provide a heterogeneous
client/server framework on objects. With PDO it is possible to deploy
objects on non-NEXTSTEP server Machines and therefore deployed
anywhere in a network, wherever they are most appropriate for a task.
PDO encapsulates low-level network protocols, making messaging a
remote object as straightforward as messaging a local object. You even
don't have to learn new programming tools or techniques, because PDO
is a subset of NeXT tools and objects. Because PDO makes object
location completely transparent to the application, the application
communicates with every object the same way regardless wether it is
local, in the local network or anywhere in the world.
Because of the free location of objects, objects may get moved to
other locations, e.g. to optimize performance, without modification of
the application using it.
PDO also runs on non-NEXTSTEP servers. It comes with it's own set of
classes, libraries and even an Objective-C++ compiler, etc. Neverless
you can build, maintain, etc. from any NEXTSTEP client connected to a
PDO server. The tools used for building the final objects however are
native to the server's OS.
PDO comes with Foundation Framework, Distributed Objects Framework,
DOEventLoop and other core classes. Bundled tools are: Objective-C++
compiler, GDB, libg++, GNU make, Portable BuildServer, Portable
nmserver, Mach Emulation, NEXTSTEP's default system, on-line
documentation. Currently supported platforms are: HP-UX, SunOS,
Solaris, Digital UNIX.
3.8 EOF --- Enterprise Objects Framework
EOF
EOF is the latest replacement for the DatabaseKit and available as an
extra product.
EOF bridges the gap between objects and relational databases. With EOF
you can bring the advantage of object oriented design etc. to
applications which use relational databases. (Therefore you don't need
an object oriented database!)
EOF clarifies many things. It supports a three-tier client/server
architecture by separating the user interface, business objects and
the database. In fact you can simply exchange the database (by
changing the adapter) and still use the same application!
Developing under EOF doesn't limit you to e.g. Objective-C. EOF allows
the integration of e.g. 4GL code as well as SQL etc. all combined
under the advantage of NeXT's developer tools.
EOF includes client and server software. It consists of the Enterprise
Object Modeler, runtime libraries and adapters for SYBASE,ORACLE and
Informix (other adapters available from the DBMS producers). It
currently runs under HP-UX, SunOS, Solaris, Digital UNIX and always
requires PDO. For client use you additionally need NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.
3.9 WebObjects
WebObjects
WebObjects helps you building dynamic Web pages. It is targeted to the
server side of the Web and there mostly to the intranets, also most
people might find it very useful for the Internet, too. It is
operating system independent and runs under Windows NT, Solaris,
HP-UX, Digital UNIX and NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.
WebObjects contains development tools to build components for your
application logic, as well as a set of reusable components to manage
the rendering of your application. Because WebObjects is Java
compatible, you even can integrate Java applets in your application
today. It supports the standard http servers which have to support CGI
or NSAPI interface. WebObjects supports database access to Informix,
Oracle, Sybase and DB/2.
What's unique about WebObjects is the ability to share the logic of
your Web application and your data with other internal applications.
It means that you are not required to maintain a dedicated database or
write specific application code for your Web application.
Currently there are three versions of WebObjects: WebObjects,
WebObjects Pro and WebObjects Enterprise. WebObjects itself is freely
available to anybody interested in. WebObjects Pro contains PDO and
WebObjects Enterprise contains PDO and EOF with a special license to
connect to the Internet. But because WebObjects is a brand new
product, look at http://www.next.com/WebOjects/ for further
information.
WebObjects is free for academic usage.
3.10 Rhapsody
Rhapsody Rhapsody is the code name for Apple's new operating system,
based on BSD 4.4 and OPENSTEP frameworks. Because it's not released
yet, we don't talk about it. (Also we could, of course, spread some
details, but it would only produce more noise.) Please refer to
http://www.apple.com/, http://www.devworld.apple.com/,
http://www.macrumors.com/, http://www.rhapsodyos.com/ for more details
3.11 WWW Browser
WWW Browser Browser OmniWeb NetSurfer SpiderWoman NetScape
First: There is no Java capable browser.
Several NEXTSTEP browsers are available for NEXTSTEP. The currently
most advanced browser is named 'OmniWeb'. OmniWeb is commercial in the
way that you need a license to use it in a network. A single user
license is free. OmniWeb seems to be continuesly updated and support
is known to be good. OmniWeb is also supporting a lot of well known
Netscape features.
There is also a public domain WWW browser named 'SpiderWoman'. It's
plus is the NEXTSTEP look and feel (e.g. you navigate through the Web
like you navigate your filesystem with WorkspaceManager). Anyway
SpiderWoman is somehow unstable and it seems as if development
stopped.
Another commercial browser is NetSurfer. Demos are available on the
ftp sites. This browser is preferred by several people because it
integrates ftp access very well. Anyway you have to pay for it.
Netscape isn't available for NEXTSTEP and is unlikely to be ported.
3.12 Newsreader
Newsreader Alexandra NewsGrazer NewsFlash RadicalNews
There are currently four well known newsreaders for NEXTSTEP.
First there is Alexandra, a public domain newsreader and second there
is NewsGrazer (and unsupported NeXT product). You should test them to
get your personal favorite. The only real difference is the support of
NEXTSTEP 3.3J (Japanese) and flatfiles in NewsGrazer, while the
interface in Alexandra seems to be better for many people.
NewsFlash is a commercial product which adds several features. As
RadicalNews it supports article threading, automated posting and
extraction of multi-part files. Demos are available on the ftp sites.
E-mail inquiries should go to support@wolfware.com. Further info is
available at: http://www.wolfware.com/
RadicalNews is a commercial newsreader. It supports true article
threading, quoted text highlighting, japanese and Latin-1 support,
URL-support, an interface to Digital Librarian, a sophisticated
coloring scheme and much more. Info is available at:
http://www.radical.com/.
A note to both commercial versions: the community is very splitted
about which version is to prefer. In general it seems as if there are
no really 'killer features' so it prefers much to personal taste.
Demos are available and don't forget to test the free versions, too!
4 MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION
Misc Various Unsorted
4.1 How do I get pictures of people from remote sites to appear in Mail.app and
NewsGrazer?
Pictures, in Mail Pictures, in NewsGrazer Mail, remote Pictures
Newsgrazer, remote Pictures
You can do this in the following ways.
* Mail In /LocalLibrary/Images/People put a tiff (64x64) in the form
of person@remote.site.domain.tiff (all lowercase). In
/LocalLibrary/Images/People/passwd add an entry for the person:
person@remote.site.domain:*:-2:-2::/nodir:/noshell
(person and sitename need to be all lowercase as well) In the
future anytime you get mail from the person their picture should
appear.
You can include an "aliases" file in /LocalLibrary/Images/People
too. This allows you to use the same picture for somebody that
might send you mail from accounts on many different sites, or for
those people whose letters use several different routings.
To do this, you include entries in this local aliases file like
so:
bkohler@ucrac1.ucr.edu:bkohler.gonzo.ucr.edu
gonzo.ucr.edu!bkohler@uupsi2.uucp:bkohler.gonzo.ucr.edu
There should then be a .tiff file called
bkohler.gonzo.ucr.edu.tiff.
There can be no CAPITAL LETTERS in this file. So even if the
address in the From: field looks like
gonzo.ucr.edu!bkohler@uupsi2.UUCP, keep the letters lowercase in
the aliases file. As always, you have to restart Mail before these
changes take effect.
* NewsGrazer
In /LocalLibrary/NewsGrazer/People put a tiff (64x64) in the form
of person.remote.site.domain (all lowercase). This is a different
naming convention from what Mail uses.
There is a large archive of some 4000 or 5000 pictures prepared
for this purpose. The name of this archive is Faces3.tar.Z and it
is about 4.1 MBytes large. Currently it is available from several
anonymous ftp sites (e.g. sonata.cc.purdue.edu in:
/pub/next/graphics/Images/icons/people)
That image archive also contains a script which automatically
creates proper alias and passwd files.
4.2 How to manipulate and examine default settings
* A command line utility for examining defaults is available from:
sutro.sfsu.edu:/pub/wmdefaults1.0.tar.Z
* A PD App, DefaultMgr.app, is available on the NeXT ftp archives.
* A more brute approach (done by DefaultMgr.app):
Start the application under gdb, and then try the following
sequence of commands:
break *0x500976a
commands 1
silent
printf "%s: ", *$a2
output {char *}(4+$a2)
echo \n
cont
end
run
[Carl Edman ] adds:
DefaultMgr.app doesn't any longer work properly under 3.0. It still is
able to manipulate defaults but can't any longer "investigate" apps to
find out which defaults they use.
[eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)] adds:
Needs to be revised for 3.x systems. wmdefaults is only for 2.x; it's
not needed for 3.0 and later.
4.3 How do I run NextApps remotely?
Remote running
On the local machine make sure you have public window server access,
this is set from the Preferences application. On the foreign NeXT
machine run the application from a terminal window with the -NXHost .
Both machines should be running the same version of NeXTstep.
[shayman@Objectario.com (Steve Hayman)]
NeXTSTEP 3.1 and higher includes a demo application called OpenSesame
that simplifies this. You can select a program in Workspace and use >
Service > Open Sesame > Open on Another Host ...to launch a program on
a remote machine. This is a way to run old, non-fat-binary software on
new NeXTSTEP/Intel machines.
4.4 Why does UUCP hangs on outgoing connections after sending the password, but
other communications software do not have a problem with it?
UUCP
What is happening is that the remote machine is waiting for you to end
your login or password by typing a "Return" (aka &Mcirc; or CR or
CARRIAGE RETURN). UUCP ends a line by sending a LineFeed (aka Ĵ
or LF). Since UUCP doesn't send the CR, the login sequence is never
completed, and you will usually get one of two error messages:
wanted "password:" (means that username needs to end with a CR)
imsg waiting for SYNC< (means that password needs to end with CR)
So how do you get UUCP to send CR, instead of LF?
End the send string with the sequence
n
c. For instance this line in L.sys will send a LF after login, but a
CR after password.
myfeed Any DIR 9600 cub "" ATTD19095551212 9600 \
"" ogin:--ogin: Unext ssword: secret\n\c
4.5 How do I access the NeXT's Digital Webster Dictionary from a program?
Webster
Get Jiro Nakamura's define program from the archiver servers:
define.tar.Z. This will allow you to access the database from the
command line. This program breaks under 3.x. For 3.x there are two
other programs which might be useful: Webster.a5 and websterd.
4.6 How do I get the arrow keys to work in csh?
csh, arrow keys
This is for people who use a terminal app that does vt100 keyboard
emulation - pasc
First, add these lines to your .cshrc (preferably between the if and
endif):
set editmode=emacs
set macrofiles=.macros
Then create a file called .bindings and put in it:
bind-to-key ExecuteNamedMacro '\e['
And, next, you need to make a file called ".macros". Using an editor
like emacs (which can insert control characters using a &Qcirc;
prefix), into this file put:
A^@^@^@^A^P
B^@^@^@^A^N
C^@^@^@^A^F
D^@^@^@^A^B
where &@circ; means Control-@ and ƒ means Control-A, etc. Also, don't
put in the leading spaces. This will set up the left and right arrows
to move back and forth on the line, and the up and down arrows will
cycle through your history.
On Intel machines these sequences are a little different:
A^A^@^@^@^P
B^A^@^@^@^N
C^A^@^@^@^F
D^A^@^@^@^B
Then source .cshrc and the changes should take effect.
4.7 What default affects menu location?
Menu, location Do the following.
dwrite GLOBAL NXMenuX <value>
dwrite GLOBAL NXMenuY <value>
4.8 How to get Gourmet to boot up the Mathematica 2.0 kernel?
Mathematica
Login as root, or get root privileges running su, and execute the
following five commands:
mkdirs /NextApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel/NeXT
cd /NextApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel
ln -s uuuuu/Mathematica.app/Kernel/Display Utilities
cd NeXT
ln -s vvvvv/math mathexe
where uuuuu is the directory where Mathematica was placed (typically,
/LocalApps) and vvvvv is the directory where the executable math was
placed (typically, /usr/local/bin)
4.9 Manipulating the Loginwindow
loginwindow dwrites
There are some for loginwindow:
[Jess Anderson writes:]
Here, I hope, is the quasi-definitive story on dwrites that affect the
loginwindow. I'm indebted to several people, notably Art Isbell,
Kristian Koehntopp, Dan Danz, Louie Mamakos, John Kheit, Felix Lugo,
and Paul Sears, for some of the information presented here.
Remember that dwrites are not supported by NeXT; they may change with
any subsequent system release. These I've checked out using 3.0; some
or all may work with earlier releases, but I can't vouch for most of
them.
All these dwrites must be done as root. You can also run as root and
use DefaultMgr to set them (which is a whole lot more convenient if
you're intending to fiddle with some of them).
After setting the things you want, restart the WindowServer by logging
out of the current session and typing exit on the login panel.
OK, here's what we know (or think we do :-):
dwrite loginwindow DefaultUser <login-name>
Most new machines have set to me. This dwrite logs in user
automatically. User must not have a password set, hence don't use this
in a networked environment!
dwrite loginwindow HostName "<host_name>"
dwrite loginwindow HostName localhost
These cause your host name to appear on the login panel. You need
quote marks only if there's a space in the name. The first form
hard-codes the name into root's defaults database. The second form
uses whatever name has been set as localhost in NetInfo, which is
convenient for networked machines.
The font, size, color, and position of the printed string are not
accessible (drat!).
dwrite loginwindow ImageFile <path/to/a/suitable.tiff>
This uses the tiff image pointed to instead of the standard one (in
/usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/English.lproj/nextlogin.tiff, .lproj
as appropriate for your main language) as the login panel. Be sure you
get the pointer right, though, or you'll have to boot single-user to
fix it. In practical terms, the image is constrained in various ways I
won't detail here.
dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim <integer_number>
No relation to the dim time set by Preferences. The units are odd, I
think. Felix reported them as 1/34 second. However, when I changed it
to 1020, I got 15 seconds to dimming, and 680 gives 10 seconds, that
I'm sure of. So I think the units are 1/68 second. Maybe Felix just
thought it was too damn long! We all know it seems longer when you're
not having fun waiting. :-) Whatever, the login screen dims to about
half after this length of time.
dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES
This causes the panel to move around approximately in Backspace
bouncing-off-the-walls-tiff fashion. The point is to avoid burning the
screen phosphors, as a static image would tend to do. The animation is
controlled by the next couple dwrites.
dwrite loginwindow MovementTimeout <real_number>
The units are seconds. The panel starts moving (assuming the preceding
is set to YES) after this time. If you set it to be less than the
TimeToDim time, the movement starts before the dimming occurs. I did
not try zero. I can't stand waiting around for things to happen, so I
use 10 seconds for both times. The default appears to be 5 minutes.
dwrite loginwindow MovementScale <integer_number>
No movement occurs if this is set to 1. But it looks like the units
might be approximately pixels for each change of position (the
frequency of which is controlled by the next dwrite). If you put a big
number here, say 200, the image moves in big jumps, but I don't know
if the 200 is divided up somehow between change in x- and
y-coordinates. I wouldn't worry about it much, just set it to
something you like. Since my image contains readable text, I want it
to scroll smoothly around, so I use the apparently minimum value, 2.
The default appears to be 10.
dwrite loginwindow MovementRate <real_number>
The units are seconds. The image jumps by the amount above every this
many seconds. The default is 0.0666 seconds. Bigger numbers mean
slower motion. Since I don't like things being too jumpy or zooming
around, I set this to 0.1 seconds. This makes my image ooze at a pace
befitting an elderly person like me.
dwrite loginwindow PowerOffDisabled YES
This makes it a little harder to turn the machine off; you have to use
the monitor or the minimonitor (- ) if it's set, rather than the key.
dwrite loginwindow LoginHook <path/to/loginhook/executable>
dwrite loginwindow LogoutHook <path/to/logouthook/executable>
Pointers to the login and logout hooks, if used. It should be pointed
out that some of these things (login/logout hooks, for example) are
maybe more logically set where the loginwindow is invoked by the
WindowServer, namely /etc/ttys.
There are yet others. Here's the full list (thanks, Art):
NXGetDefaultValue("loginwindow", "DebugHook") => 0x0
NXGetDefaultValue("loginwindow", "DryRun") => 0x0
NXGetDefaultValue("loginwindow", "WindowServerTimeout") => 0x0
NXRegisterDefaults("loginwindow", 0x16024)
KeyMapPath: 0x12d97
"~/Library/Keyboards:/LocalLibrary/Keyboards:/NextLibrary/Keyboards"
Keymap: 0x12de1 "/NextLibrary/Keyboards/USA"
SwappedKeymap: 0x12e0a "No"
LoginHook: 0x0
LogoutHook: 0x0
HostName: 0x0
ImageFile: 0x0
DefaultUser: 0x12e41 "me"
PowerOffDisabled: 0x0
TimeToDim: 0x12e69 "2040"
MoveWhenIdle: 0x12e0a "No"
MovementTimeout: 0x12e8b "300.0"
MovementRate: 0x12e9e "0.06666"
MovementScale: 0x12eb4 "10"
[Christopher J. Kane kane@cs.purdue.edu]
Under NeXTSTEP 3.1, the login window has two buttons labeled "Reboot"
and "Power" that allow a user to reboot and power down from the login
window. In a public lab, this feature may be undesirable. The
PowerOffDisabled default can be used to disable the buttons, but they
are still shown in the window and push in when clicked (a bad user
interface decision, IMHO).
The program below patches loginwindow to eradicate the restart and
power buttons. It makes the loginwindow's LoginButton class instance
method initWithImage:altImage:andString: a no-op (just return nil).
This patch has been applied to the machines in the NeXT lab at Purdue
(like sonata.cc.purdue.edu for instance), and no adverse effects have
been noted.
This program must be run as root, since it writes to the file
/usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/loginwindow.
An archive with a compiled executable has been submitted to
sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
/*
* Patches the loginwindow.app to eradicate the restart and power
* buttons from the login window.
*
* Christopher J. Kane (kane@cs.purdue.edu)
* Released into public domain; August 13, 1993.
*/
#include <libc.h>
#include <errno.h>
void main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
unsigned char patch[8] = {0x0, 0x0, 0x42, 0x80, 0x4e, 0x5e, 0x4e,
0x75};
int file = open("/usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/loginwindow",
O_WRONLY);
if (-1==file)
goto error;
if (-1==lseek(file, 21170, SEEK_SET))
goto error;
if (-1==write(file, patch, 8))
goto error;
if (-1==close(file))
goto error;
exit(0);
error:
fprintf(stderr, "%s: %s\n", argv[0], strerror(errno));
exit(1);
}
FAQ-Authors note: We strongly recommend to do a backup of the
loginwindow application, because the patch alters the file directly
and will most likely not work on different versions of the OS.
4.10 How does one set UNIX man pages to be viewed in nroff format with DL like
the standard manual pages in NS2.x?
man pages, NS2.x
Beyond looking in the man pages under ixBuild, etc., what you want to
do is put a few files (contents listed below file name) the .index
directory:
.roffArgs:
-man
displayCommand:
tbl %s | nroff -man
ixBuildOptions:
-fman -Nwhatis -Ncat[1-8ln] -V
Other options that people suggested for ixBuildOptions:
-fman -Nwhatis -Ncat[1-8] -V /usr/local/man
-fman -Nwhatis -V /usr/local/man/man*
I don't think you need to explicitly name the directory in the first
alternative, but you do in the second unless you want the cat*
directories indexed as well.
Note: Do NOT leave a trailing return after the line in ixBuildOptions;
DL will barf. (I think someone said that, as shipped, the standard man
.index/ixBuildOptions had this problem.)
[From: Eric D. Engstrom ]
Can anyone tell me what the command line for this might be under
NEXTSTEP 3.0?
Short answer: RTM on ixbuild(1) - specifically the parameter "-g".
In addition, I'd like to inform the newsgroup of a simple hack I setup
on my own machine to create a unified DL target for all UNIX Manual
pages (including system, local, gnu, whatever). This was easier under
2.x because IXBuild (pre IXKit) had more hacks in it...
Basically, you need to setup a directory with sym-links to the various
man-page directories; For example:
(397)basilisk% pwd
/LocalLibrary/Documentation/ManPages
(398)basilisk% ls -alg
total 728
drwxrwxr-x 2 eric wheel 1024 Mar 28 18:03 ./
drwxrwxr-x 11 root wheel 1024 Mar 27 00:41 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 eric wheel 370 Feb 27 22:01 .README
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 872 Feb 27 17:11 .dir.tiff
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 20 Feb 27 17:11 .displayCommand
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 47 Feb 27 17:10 .index.iname
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 6 Feb 27 17:10 .index.itype
-rw-r--r-- 1 eric wheel 729088 Mar 28 18:44 .index.store
-rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 5 Feb 27 17:11 .roffArgs
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 18 Feb 27 17:53 gnu ->
/usr/local/gnu/man/@
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 14 Feb 27 17:53 local ->
/usr/local/man/@
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 9 Feb 27 17:53 news ->
/news/man/@
lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 35 Feb 27 17:53 system ->
/usr/man/@
Notice that I also copied all the .[a-z]* files from the /usr/man/
directory as well.
Then, use ixbuild -gl to (re)build the index. If your any of the links
point to directories on other devices, add "d" to "-gl". "-v" will
give you verbose output (like my writing style ;-). RTM under
ixbuild(1) for more info.
Unfortunately, once the index is built, I've never successfully gotten
DL to update it correctly. Instead I have to do it by hand using
ixbuild -ogldvc (actually, I setup a cron job to reindex weekly.)
If you have troubles, try removing the .index.store file and
rebuilding the entire database. I've had intermittent problems with
ixbuild under 3.0.
4.11 Appending a signature and addition headers to your e-mail
.signature signature Mail
There is a bundle for Mail to which, beside other features, allows you
to add a .signature file to outgoing e-mails: EnhancedMail.bundle.
This software package is available by the FTP archive sites.
Here are other solutions which might serve you as well:
[Carl Edman ]
First create a simple text file the following content:
#!/bin/sh
{
if test -r ${HOME}/.add-header; then cat ${HOME}/.add-header; fi
cat -
if test -r ${HOME}/.signature; then echo "--"; cat ${HOME}/.signature;
fi
}| /usr/lib/sendmail "$@"
A good name for this file would be sendmail-addheader. If you want to
and can install it for system-wide use put this file in e.g. /usr/lib.
Otherwise your private /Unix/bin directory is also fine. Make certain
that this file has execute permission. To set that, use e.g. chmod 755
/usr/lib/sendmail-addheader.
Next, open up the preferences panel in Mail. Switch to the expert
options. Change the Mailer option from /usr/lib/sendmail (which it
should originally be) to /usr/lib/sendmail-addheader (or whatever the
name of the file you created is). OK this and you should be set.
From now on your file /.signature file should always be appended to
all mail sent out with Mail.app. In addition if you have a file called
add-header in your home-directory it should automatically be prepended
to your outgoing mail. To implement a reply-to line, you would simply
give it the following content:
Reply-to: My Real Human Name <name@my.real.address>
IMPORTANT: Make certain that you have one and exactly one newline at
the end of /.add-header. Anything might break outgoing mail. Beware!
BUG: The /.signature file is not added properly for NeXT mail
containing attachments. The headers will still be added properly. This
could be fixed but probably is more of a hassle than it is worth.
[From: jbrow@radical1.radical.com (Jim Brownfield)]
I have added a Terminal Service to terminal to add a signature file
whenever I type "0" (command/zero), and I thought this might be of
interest to people who read your FAQ. I have used this technique for
over a year with no problems, and it has the advantage of working both
with non-NeXT and NeXT Mail.
First, you must create a file with your signature containing the
characters "--" on the first line (there has been some discussion as
to whether this should be "-- " ("--" followed by a blank), but my
file only has the "--" as the first line. The rest of the file should
contain your normal signature. If you place the file in your home
directory, I recommend NOT using the filename ".signature" for this
file since it may conflict with other programs (like NewsGrazer). I
use the filename ".fullSignature". The file used for the signature
should be ascii and not RTF to allow the file to be used for NeXT and
non-NeXT mail.
You can create a "Get signature" service by launching Terminal and
accessing the "Terminal Services" window through the "Info/Terminal
Services..." menu item. Then perform the following:
1. Create a new service by clicking on the "New" button. Change the
service name to "Get signature".
2. Add the command "cat " and "0" (zero) to the "Command and Key
Equivalent" entry. The "0" is obviously arbitrary, but I've found
that it doesn't conflict with any of the commands I normally use.
3. De-select any items checked within the "Accept" grouping. Select
the "As Input" radio button under the "Use Selection" section.
4. Change the "Execution" popup to "Run Service in the Background".
Select the "Return Output" and "No Shell" radio buttons.
5. Click the "Save" button.
Now, when you type "0" (actually, from any application), your
signature will be added wherever your cursor is located (be careful
not to have text selected as it will replace the selected text with
your signature). I have found this to be very convenient for adding my
.sig to outgoing mail.
4.12 How can I quickly find a file if I don't know its directory?
searching, files find
The Unix find command on the NeXT has the capability of quickly
searching a database of all the files. This database is located in
/etc/find.codes and has to be generated periodically. You can
automatically generate this database, say twice a week at 3:15 a.m.,
by adding this line to your file /etc/crontab.local (you might have to
create this file).
15 03 * * 2,5 root /usr/lib/find/updatedb > /usr/adm/updatedb.err
After this has run, you can quickly find any file from a terminal by
typing find where is a part of the file name you want (it is
case-sensitive).
[Carl Edman ] adds:
Find still works under 3.0, but now has to match the entire filename
(including the path) for a match to be recognized i.e. where under 2.x
you would have find foobar, under 3.0 you have find '*foobar*' (The '
are necessary to prevent the shell from expanding the wildcards
itself).
[From: Geert Jan van Oldenborgh ]
I find the following script in /usr/local/bin very handy to bring back
the behavior that God Intended find to have:
#!/bin/csh
if ( $#argv == 1 ) then
/usr/bin/find \*$1\*
else
set noglob
/usr/bin/find $argv[1-]
unset noglob
endif
4.13 Mail.app suddenly stopped working!
Mail, doesn't start
When I double-click the Mail.app icon it loads and seems to start but
then just terminates. How can I fix this ?
Usually the problem is caused by Mail.app being terminated with
extreme prejudice such as by a power outage or kill -9. Under those
circumstances Mail.app may leave a lock file in your active mailbox.
Due to a bug 3.0 Mail.app doesn't ask for permission to override this
lock when started up again but just dies. Open a shell and look in
/Mailboxes/Active.mbox. If this directory contains a file called .lock
you have found the culprit. You can safely remove this file.
4.14 Recycler doesn't work anymore?!
Recycler
For some reason, after moving my home directory, my recycler no longer
works?
[From: eric%basilisk@src.honeywell.com (Eric D. Engstrom)]
Basically, when you dump a file in the recycler, the workspace manager
(attempts) to move it to one of the following locations:
(note: no order implied here, because I'm unsure of the actual order
used)
- $HOME/.NeXT/.NextTrash
(Should always exist; unsure what happens if it doesn't)
- /tmp/.NextTrash_$USER
Automatically created if non-existent)
- $MNT-POINT/.NextTrash/$USER
(.NextTrash NOT automatically created if non-existent)
Also, the workspace requires that the trash directory into which it
puts the to-be-deleted file be on the same disk partition that the
file originally came from (for speed, I assume).
Also, an example of the permissions for the external disk .NextTrash
directory (which is not automatically created) should be :
ls -aldg /private/mnt2/local/.NextTrash
drwxrwxrwt [...] /private/mnt2/local/.NextTrash/
Note: /private/mnt2/local is the mount point. Do chmod 1777 .NextTrash
to get the permissions right.
Thus, if you moved your home directory from one partition to another,
the one you left may not have a "recycler-repository" to use.
4.15 How to hear sound from CDPlayer.app thought NEXTSTEP system?
digital audio CDPlayer
To hear sound, the following info is important.
[Carl Edman ]
Hearing the sound directly on the NeXT can be done with the play3401
program from the archives if you have a Toshiba 3401 series drive.
Theoretically this can also be done with NEC [78]4-1s and Apple CD
300s, though I know of no NeXT program which supports them. Most other
drives (including the NeXT CD-ROM) just don't have the hardware to do
it.
There is another player available: CD_evil, which is based on play3401
but offers a GUI.
FAQ-Authors note: On Intel system it's very easy: just connect the
CD-Audio out (internal) to your CD-in of the soundcard (internal).
Anyway there are problems with different drives. E.g. we know, that
the Toshiba, Sony and Nec drives currently use the same instruction
set to access audio data. So be aware that there are drives which
simply can't be accessed through CDPlayer.
4.16 How do I decompress a file with the extension .compressed?
.compressed compress uncompress gnutar tar gzip gunzip
Do this with the following methods.
[From: sanguish@digifix.com]
.compressed files have been compressed in the Workspace Manager.
Basically, they are just .tar.Z files. Even single files are tarred as
well as compressed. There are several methods of decompressing these
files.
1. They can be decompressed by selecting them in the Workspace, and
Selecting uncompress from the file menu.
2. They can be decompressed by selecting them in the Workspace, and
bringing up the Workspace Inspector. (You can double click to get
there faster)
3. You can rename them to be .tar.Z and handle them the way you do
them.
FAQ-Authors note: use uncompress to access the .Z files and/or gunzip
to access .z/.gz files. Use tar to access .tar files. You might also
you gnutar to access both together, e.g. to access a .tar.gz at once.
Read the man pages for more information.
4.17 How do I change the Workspace compression app?
compress gzip gunzip dwrites
Change it with the given method.
[Stephen Peters ]
You can change the tools that the Workspace uses to create and read
its .compressed files by issuing the following commands in a terminal
window:
dwrite Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip
dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip
dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress YES
[Reuven M. Lerner reuven@the-tech.mit.edu]
This is generally a good thing, except that people might follow your
advice and then try to send NeXTmail to someone who is still using
compress/uncompress. Changing Workspace/uncompress to gunzip isn't a
problem, since it uncompresses all sorts of files, but people should
be very careful not to change Workspace/compress to gzip unless they
will only be dealing with other gzip-equipped users.
4.18 console: loginwindow: netinfo problem - No such directory.
netinfo problem, /keyboard directory is missing. It's benign... but
annoying.
niutil -create . /keyboard
Fixed in 2.1 and up.
4.19 Root login not possible on client machine
root login
A number of people have complained about the situation where root can
log onto the configuration server, but not its clients. Login proceeds
normally, then a window with "Workspace error Internal error (signal
10)" pops up. Other users are not affected.
This scenario occurs with NetBooted clients that are not permitted
root access to / via the server's /etc/exports file, either via an
explicit root= option or (the most heinous) anon=0. For security
reasons many sites will NOT want to permit such access.
Note that what you're up against is only a Workspace Manager
misfeature; there's no problem logging in as root on the real UNIX
console, or logging in as a non-root user and then using "su" to
obtain root privileges.
Root access is needed to:
* Log in a root Workspace.
* Perform BuildDisk on a client.
* Run the GuidedTour demo for the first time subsequent invocations
will not autologin, but they will run just fine if you log in as
NextTour (no password).
It is not required to perform updates on the local NetInfo database,
for any normal user operations, nor to run programs requiring root
access on the server using -NXHost.
4.20 How to boot NEXTSTEP from the second (higher SCSI ID) HD?
Boot, from higher SCSI ID Boot, from second drive
Use the following command.
bsd(1,0,0) -a
which will then ask you for the drive to use as the root disk, or
still easier,
bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1
In the boot command the name of the bootfile can be replaced by '-'.
This is very useful as the length of the bootcommand which can be
stored in the permanent memory is very limited (on NeXT machines
only). So the only way to eg. increase the number of buffers
permanently to 128 in the boot command is to use the following boot
command: sd- nbu=128 (sdmach nbu=128 would have been too long).
4.21 How to make swapfile shrink to the normal size?
swapfile
The swapfile is located in /private/vm. The only current way to make
it shrink is to reboot the machine.
See the man pages for swaptab for more information. Note, that putting
a space after the comma in /etc/swaptab (lowat=,hiwat=) makes swapon
ignore the hiwat entry.
There is a short trick which seems to work for several people: type
exit in the login panel. This will exit the window server and restart
it immediatly. If you are lucky, this will reclaim some space.
4.22 Does netinfo work between machines running NEXTSTEP 2.x and 3.x?
netinfo
Yes.
4.23 Why does the console user "own" the external disk filesystem?
filesystem, external
You need an entry in /etc/fstab so the disk will be mounted at boot
time, rather than being "automounted" when somebody logs in.
Automounted disks are owned by whoever logged in, fstab-mounted disks
are owned by root. Something like this:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /Disk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
(assuming the external disk is to be mounted as /Disk)
fstab should be niloaded into the Netinfo database if it contains any
NFS mounts.
4.24 How to limit coredump sizes?
coredump, size limit
Limit it by the following command.
This will work for apps running from a shell.
limit coredumpsize 0
If your dock or workspace apps are dumping core, there's also:
dwrite Workspace CoreLimit <bytesize>
4.25 What is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup?
buffers, ROM
I know the ROM monitor only allows twelve characters, but I use
something like this:
bsd sdmach nbuf=xxx
(NeXT machines only) Enter the hardware monitor. Hit 'p' to adjust the
configuration parameters. It will respond: Boot command: ? Enter sd-
nbu=xxx, where xxx is a number less than 256.
4.26 How can I change the mouse pointer shape and color?
Maybe this could point you into the right direction. Pipe it to pft
and see what happens....
%!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 16 16
%%EndComments
0 0 16 16 Retained window
dup windowdeviceround
gsave
16 16 scale
16 16 4
[16 0 0 -16 0 16]
{<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>} false 3 alphaimage
grestore
gstate
nextdict /_NXSharedGrayAlpha get
NX_TwelveBitRGB 1 index setwindowdepthlimit
windowdeviceround
0 0 16 16 5 4 roll 0 32 Copy composite
nulldevice
termwindow
Maybe somebody wants to write some kind of "pointer editor"?
There is also a commercial application named 'MouseMagic' which
handles this and custom acceleration modes.
4.27 How do I customize BuildDisk to create a bootable disk of my own
configuration?
BuildDisk, customization The BuildDisk application is extremely
limited in terms of the types of disks configuration it knows how to
build. Essentially it "knows" about swapdisks, optical disks, 330 and
660 MB SCSI disks. If you wish to do custom configurations you should
look at existing BLD script files in /etc/BLD.* There is a script
which you can use to specify which BLD script you are using, which
disktab entry, and other useful parameters in /usr/etc/builddisk
Some things to note:
* the fstab installed on the target disk is specified in the
newclient command in the BLD script. standard fstabs are extracted
from /usr/template/client/fstab.*
* the BLD scripts do not put down a new boot block on the scsi disk,
you may want to install one by hand using the /usr/etc/disk
program.
* some disks boot fine but NeXTstep comes up with a blank window and
no login window. This is due sometimes to forgetting to install an
accessible /NextLibrary/{Fonts,Sounds}. In general you need quite
a lot of things to make a bootable disk.
You can build a minimally usable bootable floppy (for crash recovery
purposes). There is a modified version of builddisk (to make it
support building floppies, a minimal change) and a BLD script to build
the boot floppy available at cs.orst.edu in
next/sources/Bootfloppy.tar.Z. (I put this together in response to
several requests.) A newer version of Bootfloppy for 2.1 is on the
archives as next/sources/util/Bootfloppy2.1.tar.Z. Also available from
the archives is BootFloopy 3.x (for --- you guessed it --- NEXTSTEP
3.x). I might also add that one can improve on disk usage while
enhancing functionality. BuildDisk (which is used by the various
BootFloppy scripts) just copies the standard binaries for ls, mv, cp
aso. from /bin. These binaries are statically linked as shipped by
NeXT which makes them huge. (e.g. /bin/ls is 106496 bytes large.
/usr/local/bin/gls with more features is just 16268 bytes). If you
replace these binaries by the BSD or GNU equivalents you can save
several hundred kBytes on your boot floppy. This extra diskspace can
be used for tar, dump and more tools which makes the boot floppy
actually usable. Tested.
4.28 Are there any more dwrites useful for the workspace, ...?
dwrite, misc
There a lot of dwrite useful for you. (self explanatory)
dwrite Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip
dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip
dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress Yes
dwrite Workspace DockOrginX (some number)
dwrite Workspace DockOrginY (some number)
dwrite Workspace DockOffsetX -1057 (leftmost)
dwrite Workspace DockOnTop (0 or 1 for true or false)
dwrite appname NXCMYKAdjust YES
dwrite Preferences 24HourClock yes
4.29 What is the @LongLink message from gnutar all about?
@LongLink gnutar
Because gnutar tries to be somewhat compatible to the old tar format,
it can't store pathnames longer than 100 chars. In order to store
files with longer names, it generates a special file entry containing
just the longer filename. These are the long links you see. Nothing to
worry about.
4.30 What stands the file .place3_0.wmd for?
.place3_0.wmd
The Workspace uses it to record the window attributes (sort order,
view type, icon positions and so on)
Switching the 'UNIX Expert' flag in UNIX Preferences panel off hides
all files which start by '.'.
4.31 How to create transparent icons with IconBuilder
IconBuilder icon, transparent
If you are repainting an icon on the filesystem e.g. .dir.tiff make a
copy and remove it first. Then reload the directory (the default icon
gets shown). This is needed because the system caches icons.
Now here comes how to create transparent backgrounds using
IconBuilder:
* Select Format->Document Layout (or New document layout)
* 'Has alpha' must be checkedus
* Open the color inspector
* UNcheck 'paint in overlay mode'
* Choose any color (I took white)
* Set Opacity to 0
* Use Paintbucket to fill the whole icon
* Now set Opacity back to 100
* Draw the icon
What 'Paint in overlay mode… does, is that when checked, it will use
both the alpha (opacity) of the existing pixel and the alpha selected
in the color inspector and combine both into a new color. When
unchecked the existing pixel will just be replaced with one using
color and alpha as selected in the inspector.
4.32 How to access the MAC format of a mixed DOS/MAC CD-ROM
Mac DOS CD-ROM
Some CD-ROMs are using multiple fileformats to adress more people.
This is done by putting two filesystems on the disk. With NEXTSTEP you
are able to acess both. But what to do if the Workspace only shows you
the DOS side of a disk, while the Mac side is often more convenient
(due to e.g. long filenames).
The solution is to change the priority the system is searching for a
usable filesystem. You need to rearange the filesystems in
/usr/filesystems to fit your needs. Here is how:
* ls -lR /usr/filesystems shows the actual searching queue.
* mv /usr/filesystems /tmp/filesystems to backup things
* mkdir /usr/filesystems recreate the directory.
* cp -p -r /tmp/filesystems/xx /usr/filesystems copy the filesystems
in order of searching back to the default location.
* chmod 4755 /usr/filesystems/xx.fs/xx.util reset SUID mode
* reset the links in /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs/.
4.33 Is there a PPP for NEXTSTEP
PPP
There is a commercial PPP and a public domain PPP implementation.
For the public domain PPP there is an additional FAQ available at:
http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
The public domain PPP is based on the PPP-2.2 distribution. This
distribution offers several enhancements over ppp-2.1.2. Especially
noteworty is that it implements BSD packet compression. Using packet
compression can lead to higher throughput than you get using
compressing modems.
The port works on Motorola, Intel (both Mux and NeXT supplied serial
drivers), and HP systems running OS 3.2 and 3.3. It also works in
conjunction with Black and White's NXFAX software.
You may also want to join the mailing list for PPP. This will keep you
informed of new releases and will provide an arena for discussing
problems with the NeXT specific PPP port. To add yourself to the list
(or for any other administrative requests), send an email message to:
listproc@listproc.thoughtport.com requesting you be placed on the
list. Make sure to include your proper return email address. To send
mail to all the participants on the list, address your messages to:
nextppp@listproc.thoughtport.com
4.34 NIS and OpenStep
NIX lookupd
There's a new lookupd in OpenStep for Mach 4.0, which works a bit
differently than the old lookupd. The new lookupd has a number of
"agents" that do lookups from various information systems (NetInfo,
DNS, NIS, the Flat Files, and the internal cache). You can specify
which information sources should be consulted, and in what order. You
can also specify which information sources should be consulted for
different categories. There is documentation for all this in the file
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/ReleaseNotes/lookupd.rtf.
One change in NIS lookups is that a "+" in the /etc/passwd file does
not trigger a NIS lookup. If you want user lookups to consult both
/etc/passwd and the NIS passwd maps, you need to tell lookupd to use
both Flat File and NIS agents. For example, if you configure all this
in your root domain, you could set user lookups to use
Cache+NetInfo+Flat Files+NIS like this:
niutil -create / /locations/lookupd
niutil -create / /locations/lookupd/users
niutil -createprop / /locations/lookupd/users LookupOrder \
CacheAgent NIAgent FFAgent NISAgent
4.35 System overloaded due to swapping
Swapping CPU overload load
Several people discovered the problem, that their system get's
unusable due to swapping. This is extremely bad, because if this
swapping occurs, you can't even break the CPU load causing process,
because you can't even open a terminal window. There exists a
programmed solution to this problem.
Here it is! I should warn you that this will just kill the app --- it
will not give you a chance to save files, nor will it bring up a nice
panel asking if you really meant to do that. There is no warranty for
anything by using this code.
To use it, simple hold down alternate and right click on any window
owned by the application or its icon on the dock. This will not kill
some apps like Terminal because they run as root.
In order to install it, you will have to edit
/usr/lib/NextStep/windowpackage.ps. Make sure that you make a backup
of this file before editing it! It is owned by root, so not just
anyone can do this.
To apply the patch, search for a line stating: rmdownEvProc (the
procedure for processing right mouse button down events), and replace
it with the code named examples/windowpackage.patch in the FAQ
archive. For NS3.3 this code is located at line 1319.
Disclaimer: you should not attempt this if you do not know what you
are doing. You may be unable to log in (you will have to boot single
user to restore the windowpackage.ps) if you mess it up. You can kill
apps that you did not mean to kill. I cannot be responsible for what
happens!
Thanks to David Koski dkoski@cs.wisc.edu for supplying this code.
4.36 Swapfile issues
swapfile swap, speed swap, size
1. use 'mkfile' to generate the lowat file size of you swapfile. This
decreases the number of inodes used and keeps the permanent lowat
size defragmented.
2. on fast machines, compress the swapfile (only possible on the
primary file), on slow machines, disable compressing.
3. place the swapfile on the fastest hard disk drive you have. Use
'man swaptab' to learn more about configuring swap files.
4. to learn more about the never shrinking swapfile question, read
the NeXTanswers about it. http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/
5. if your swaptab ignores some options: be aware that options must
not contain spaces!
4.37 Garbage collection and Objective-C
garbage collection memory allocation
Note that Boehm's conservative garbage collector from
ftp://ftp.parc.xerox.com/pub/gc/ works great with Objective-C, so you
can use GC also with the other compilers.
That GC could be enhanced a little by taking advantage of the
Objective-C runtime type information; the hooks are there for it.
4.38 Setting up an anonymous FTP server
ftp server
Many people suggested just to read the online manual to ftpd. Probably
a good idea. Anyway I included a not tested script in the FAQ
distribution package which might be convinient for most people.
5 BLACK (NEXT) HARDWARE
5.1 What disk drives will work with the NeXT?
disk drives
There are some situations in which there are problems. Here is a short
list which might help you in your disk drive quest:
* These drives don't work with NeXT hardware: FUJITSU 2684SAU,
SEAGATE ST51080N, IBM IB06H8891
* The SCSI driver for NeXT hardware only accepts asynchronous data
transfer. Although every new SCSI-2 drive should support this
mode, this isn't true for certain drives. Also sometimes there is
a hardware switch (a little jumper on the drive) which switches
between synchronous and asynchronous mode. You definitly can only
use asynchronous disks!
* There are also problems with sync negotiation on NeXT hardware. In
general there should be another jumper to toggle this are you
might change this with an SCSI utility. There are also problems
with the tagged command queuing option. Anyway all these problem
can be solved. Often these problems arise with IBM drives. We
recommand to look in the technical documentation of the drive,
which is available only from IBM's WWW site directly.
Most SCSI disk drives will work without modifying /etc/disktab.
There are problems with the installation of boot blocks and badly
formed fstab generated by BuildDisk of NEXTSTEP 2.0. A disk connected
to the NeXT will need to have a NeXT specific label written to it
before it can be properly recognized by the system. If you get an
error message "Invalid Label..." this indicates that the drive was
successfully seen by the NeXT machine but it does not have the proper
label, to install a label use the /usr/etc/disk program on the raw
disk device that the system assigned to the device and use the label
command to write the label onto the disk. [how the NeXT assigns disk
devices is explained in the N&SA manual]
NEXTSTEP releases 2.0 and up provide a low level disk formatter,
sdform, which does not offer much flexibility, but gets the job done.
Most drives are already formatted at the factory. You might look for
the utility sdformat on the FTP sites as well, which overcomes some
problems of sdform supplied by NeXT.
5.2 Will a 68030 NeXT Computer run NEXTSTEP 3.3?
NS3.3 and 68030
Yes, but note that NeXTstep 3.3 is be optimized for the 68040 CPUs.
NeXTstep 1.0 and 2.x were optimized for the 68030 CPU, 68882 FPU
machines.
5.3 Does a FUJITSU MO (256 MB) works with NeXT original Hardware?
FUJITSU MO
Yes, they do
5.4 Can I run my SCSI-2 disks in synchronous mode?
SCSI-2, synchronous synchronous mode
Quick answer is: No. The reason is that the NeXT does not support
synchronous transfers from the SCSI bus. It does support SCSI-2 disks
running in asynchronous mode, which all SCSI-2 disks must do.
5.5 How do I configure my HP 660 to boot properly?
HP 660, boot boot, HP 660
It has been reported that HP drives fail to autoboot on power on or
while other devices are on the scsi bus. The problem seems to be with
drives configured to spin-up automatically on power on do not get
recognized at boot time. To remedy this problem reliably with HP 660Mb
(HP97548) and 1Gbyte (HP 97549) drives remove the auto spinup jumper
on the back of the drive. Looking at the disk from the back with the
power connector on the lower left, it is the sixth jumper.
The official fix was an EPROM change to the HP drive from HP. The HP
drives took too long to wait up, so the system wasn't happy with the
other drives coming ready first especially when the HP was suppose to
be the boot device. (The EPROM is no longer available from NeXT).
5.6 What is the procedure for installing a Fujitsu M2263SA/SB SCSI Disk as the
NeXT Boot Disk?
Fujitsu M2263SA/SB
See Izumi Ohzawa's note in /pub/next/docs/fujitsu.recipe available via
anonymous ftp from sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
5.7 How to mount a corrupted OD that won't automount?
OD, corrupt OD, mount
If you can't automount an OD, and you can't fix it, you can still
manually mount it. Log in as root. Type /usr/etc/mount /dev/od0a /FoO.
It will ask you to insert the disk. Insert it. It is mounted.
This method WILL mount a corrupted OD so you can read its contents.
Since it is corrupted, it is not recommended to write to it. You
should copy the important files to something else, then reformat it.
5.8 What non-NeXT CD Players that work with a NeXT?
CD-ROM, NeXT
A USENET survey summary:
Apple CD-150
PLI 1035N for NeXT
SUN CD-ROM drive (Sony CDU-8012, Rev. 3.1a)
NEC 73M and 74 (transfer rates > of 300 KB/sec.)
NEC 84 S
NEC 4xi
NEC 6x speed
Apple CD-SC (Sony 541-22 mechanism)
Apple CD-300
Apple CD-300+
Chinon CDS-431 (with new drivers)
Eclipse CD-ROM from Microtech
Toshiba 3201
Toshiba 3301
Toshiba 3401
Toshiba 3501
Toshiba TXM3301E1
Toshiba XM-2200A external
Toshiba XM3601
Plextor Quadspeed
Plextor PX-63CS (6xspeed)
DENON DRD-253 external (data only, no music)
HP's LaserROM drive (Toshiba XM-3301TA drive in HP's box)
Texel 3024 (required a firmware upgrade to version was 1.11)
As with all SCSI devices, they just work. Some drives only get
problems with their audio support with CD-Player (due to not
standardized SCSI audio commands, but this isn't a NeXT specific
problem!)
In contrary the question should be: are there SCSI CD-ROMs which don't
work together with NEXTSTEP?
5.9 What are some other sources of toner cartridges and trays for the NeXT
laser printer?
toner, NeXT printer
The toner cartridge is a standard EP-S cartridge, the same that fits
the HP LaserJet III and some other printers.
Any HP LaserJet II or III will fit. HPLJ4mSI cartridges do NOT fit.
Any HP LJII or LJIII paper tray will fit. IIISI and 4 trays will not.
Confused? Read again :-)
5.10 What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with a NeXT?
printers, on NeXT
If you plan to connect an HP LaserJet (II, IIP, III, etc.) you need to
make a special cable in order for the NeXT 040 and HP to get the
hardware handshaking correct. This is true for whatever version of the
OS you are running.
NeXT 68040 to HP LaserJet III Cable (not a Null-modem cable):
Mini-Din HP DB-25
1 (DTR) nc
2 (DCD) 4 (RTS)
3 (TXD) 3 (RXD)
4 (GND) 7 (GND)
5 (RXD) 2 (TXD)
6 (RTS) 5 (CTS)
7 (RTXC) nc
8 (CTS) 20 (DTR)
You may want to use hardware flow control for reliability (ie
/dev/ttyfa).
If you have problems with other printers, check the cable pinouts in
the printer's manual against the one recommended in the zs man-page!
Refer to Chapter 13 in Network and System Administration.
5.11 What can I do to prevent my NeXT printer from running all the time?
printer, turning off
The NeXT 400dpi printer powers up every time you boot up when the
print daemon is started (/usr/lib/NextPrinter/npd in /etc/rc). Apart
from not running the daemon at boot time (commenting it out and having
to run it by hand later), you can add the following lines to
/etc/rc.local:
if [ -f /usr/etc/nppower ]; then
sleep 3
/usr/etc/nppower off
(echo 'powering off NeXTprinter') >/dev/console
fi
Once you queue a print job the printer daemon will automatically power
up the NeXT printer for you. The printer daemon will not automatically
power off the machine after a print job, you will need to turn off the
printer by typing /usr/etc/nppower off.
5.12 What type of microphones will work with the NeXT?
microphone, NeXT
Some NeXT owners use the RadioShack (Realistic) Tie Clip Microphone
($19.95) cat 33-1052. NeXT Computer, Inc. uses the "Sony Electret
Condenser Microphone ECM-K7" in-house (available for $60). Some use
Sony Tie-Clip microphone, #ECM-144, which costs around $40. Others
have successfully used a WalMart brand microphone (available for $6).
5.13 How do I connect a modem to the NeXT?
modem, on NeXT
Previously, we suggested that people use Mac modem cables; however, it
has come to our attention that there is no one standard Mac modem
cable.
Since correct modem operation on a NeXT depends upon a correctly wired
modem cable, buying a Mac cable is not a good idea. Some Mac cables do
not allow dial-in and no Mac cable allows the use of hardware flow
control. For these reasons, we are recommending that only cables that
meet NeXT specifications be used. [however, if you have a Mac modem
cable lying around and don't care about dial-in or hardware flow
control, then by all means....]
These cables are available commercially from any store, how still
sells NeXT stuff, and from Computer Cables and Devices, or can be
custom built. Note that no off- the-shelf Mac cable will allow
hardware flow control. It is however possible to make a such a cable
from an Imagewriter II cable by replacing one of the mini-8 ends with
a DB-25 connector.
Hardware flow control is absolutely essential for all serial port
connections with speeds of 9600 bps and above. Make certain that you
cable supports it, your modem is configured to use it and you are
using the hardware flowcontrol devices /dev/cuf[ab], /dev/ttydf[ab]
and /dev/ttyf[ab], respectively.
Most people use tip or kermit to control the modem. SLIP and/or UUCP
may also be used (but are more complicated to set up and require the
remote machine to also have SLIP and/or UUCP (respectively)).
A version of the DOS-program pcomm can be found on
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
The 2.0 Network and System Administration Manual, which is available
in hard-copy (shipped with each machine) contains an extensive
description of how to use modems with the NeXT machine. Additionally
NeXT in their TechSupportNotes series called SerialPortDoc.wn and UUCP
for 1.0/1.0a systems . This document is available from most FTP sites
that carry NextAnswers. Also, try to obtain the about.modem.Z file by
Mark Adler in the pub/next/lore directory on sonata.cc.purdue.edu
5.14 Are there any alternative sources for the SCSI-II to SCSI-I cable required
to attach external SCSI devices to the 040 NeXTs?
SCSI cable to NeXT
Yes. This cable is the same as the one used by Sun SparcStations and
DecStation 5000's (but not DecStation 3100's which use 68-pin micro
rather than the 50pin micro connector used on NeXT 040, Suns and
DecStation 5000).
The implication that a Sun SparcStation cable can be used with NeXT
peripherals is generally false. NeXT themselves, and DEC, and nearly
everyone else who makes SCSI peripherals, puts Telco-50 (centronics)
connectors on their devices. Sun in their infinite wisdom uses DD50
which are quite different. Telco-50 is an approved connector type in
the SCSI spec.
Probably the original point was that the 50-pin microSCSI on the NeXT
and Sun and some DecStations was different from the 68-pin microSCSI
on the DecStation 5000. But this does not address the other end of the
cable.
5.15 What fax modems will work with the NeXT?
fax modem, on NeXT
Most available modems of today, don't work for with the general fax
driver available with NEXTSTEP. In this case you need to perchuse a
commercial solution: 'NXFax'. There are demos available. The following
information is pretty much old, and might probably be obsolete now:
The following fax modems are currently available for the NeXT
Computer:
Manufacturer, Model Supplier, Type
DoveFax for NeXT, Dove Computer, Class 1
HSD FaxMaster, HSD Microcomputer, Class 2*
mix fax, i·link GmbH, Class 2**
SupraFAXModem V.32bis, Supra Corp., Class 2
(requires DFax driver or NXFax driver)
ZyXEL U-1496E/E+/S/S+, ZyXEL USA, Class 2
(requires NXFax driver)
Telebit T3000 with fax option
Telebit WorldBlazer with fax option
(requires NXFax driver)
Neuron 1414/1414+ with ZyXEL ROM upgrade
(requires NXFax driver)
(Neuron 1414 and Neuron 1414+ modems are relabelled ZyXEL modems.
Contact ZyXEL USA for ROM upgrades. Neuron modems with 512K ROMs
should upgrade their ROMs and ROM sockets to 1 Mb ROMs. People with
1Mb ROMs should just order the new ROMs.)
(*) Note that the Class 2 is not yet approved; it is still out for
ballot, after having failed in an October 1990 round. The Abaton
InterFax 24/96 NX driver supports Class 2 as it was in that draft;
there are expected to be very few changes prior to approval.
(**) Note that mix fax works with both the October 1990 and October
1991 draft versions of Class 2, especially with the NeXT supplied
Class 2 modem driver. Upgrading to an approved version of Class 2
would be a matter of just a software update (holds true for any
forthcoming (class 3?) standard, for that matter).
In order to use a fax modem with the NeXT Computer, a NeXT compatible
fax driver must be available to operate the modem. Modem control
procedures may be proprietary or conform to one of the following
EIA/TIA standards:
Class 1: CCITT T.30 session management and CCITT T.4 image data
handling are controlled by the driver.
Class 2*: CCITT T.30 session management and image data transport are
handled by the modem. CCITT T.4 image data preparation and
interpretation are controlled by the driver.
Release 2.0 of the NeXT system software includes a Class 2 modem
driver which will work with any fax modem which meets the EIA/TIA
Asynchronous Facsimile Control standard. Other fax modems must supply
a NeXT compatible driver.
Note that there's a small bug in 2.0 (fixed in 2.1): a symbolic link
is missing for the file Class2_Fax_Modem_Driver in
/usr/lib/NextPrinter. The simple fix: create the link; it should
reference Interfax_Fax_Modem_Driver, also in the /usr/lib/NextPrinter
directory.
An alternative workaround for Class 2, especially useful for novices:
just use InterFax as the modem type in PrintManager, rather than Class
2*.
After installing a fax modem using PrintManager one must repeat
setting things in the Fax Options panel in order for them to be stored
correctly. In particular, these include the Rings to Answer and Number
of Times to Retry. This affects all fax modems being installed.
If one uses illegal characters in the Modems Number field in the Fax
Options when configuring an InterFax modem then the modem will not
answer the phone. Legal characters are digits, spaces, and plus signs.
This does not affect the Dove modem.
Modems from the german vendor Dr. Neuhaus also work with the internal
Fax-Driver. But only the FURY-series does.
5.16 How may I attach more than two serial ports to the NeXT?
serial port, >2 on NeXT
TTYDSP From Yrrid converts the DSP port into an additional serial
port.
Yrrid Incorporated
507 Monroe St.
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
Voice: 919-968-7858
Fax: 919-968-7856
E-mail: yrrid@world.std.com
Unitnet has a device, the SLAT, that will connect to the scsi bus.
Uninet Peripherals, Inc.
Voice: 714-263-4222
Fax: 714-263-4299
Central Data Corporation made the scsiTerminal Server family of
products. However they stopped supporting NeXT hardwer. We are told
that Central Data may consider the solling or giving of the driver
source to an interested party.
Phone: 217/359-8010
Toll-free: 800/482-0315
FAX: 217-359-6904
Email: info@cd.com
support@cd.com
sales@cd.com
Also, one can use an IP terminal server. In a non-Internet
environment, inexpensive terminal servers, which don't control access
to the network securely, can be used. If your network is an Internet
subnet, you must use a terminal server that controls either: (1) who
can log into the terminal server, or (2) which machines the terminal
server will access. These tend to be more expensive (around $250/port,
but in 8-port increments), but it may be quite economical means of
sharing ports among many NeXTs (or other computers) on the network.
Particularly if one has a NeXT network, an Ethernet terminal server
may be the way to go. One that supports Linemode Telnet (such as the
Xylogics Annex III) will offer the best performance.
5.17 What is the best and/or cheapest way to connect a NeXT to a thick
Ethernet?
Ethernet, thick There are many possible solutions. For example, here
are three:
* The University of Waterloo (Audio Research Group) uses an old
door-stop PC XT clone with two Western Digital cards (WD8003E
Ethercard Plus, $250 CDN each; you should be able to get them for
under $200 (US$)) running Vance Morrison's PCRoute (available from
accuvax.nwu.edu). You will also need a thickwire transceiver and a
drop cable (about $300). In addition, you will need Internet
addresses for the NeXT and both PC Ethernet cards (and a subnet
address). The documentation for PCRoute contains quite a bit of
information on the performance of this setup. This solution
requires two subnets. There is another program called PCbridge
that allows the machines on the thin and thick wires to be part of
the same subnet. This product also does packet filtering, so that
packets destined to machines on the same side of the net do not
cross over.
* Cabletron sells a MR-2000C Singleport Repeater for $695 that does
exactly what you need minus drop cable and transceiver. Their
number is (408) 441-9900.
* The march 1992 INMAC networking and connectivity products catalog
lists thicknet to thinnet converters. Product number Z903071 price
$445. Claims full ieee 802.3 compatibility and diagnostic LED's.
* NuData (908)-842-5757 (USA) sells AUI10 base-T boxes for about
$149.
5.18 How can I connect my NeXT to the telephone line and use it like an
answering Machine?
answering machine A company that is selling both hardware and software
to allow you to do this:
SES Computing
13206 Jenner Lane
Austin, Texas 78729
Voice: (512) 219-9468 (Demo system number)
i.link, a european company, has a combined data/fax modem and
telephone answering machine. It uses the DSP port and is implemented
mainly in software on the DSP with a little bit of hardware to
interface to the phone line.
i.link GmbH
Nollendorfstrasse 11-12
D-1000 Berlin 30
Germany
Tel: +49 30 216 20 48
Fax: +49 30 215 82 74
E-mail: info@ilink.de
5.19 What color monitors can I use with the Color NeXT machines?
monitor, color
The important specs for the color monitor are:
Horz Scan Rate: 61 KHz
Vertical Scan Rate: 68 Hz
Resolution: 1280x1024 (NeXT uses 1120x832)
NON-INTERLACED
Displays may require alignment to adjust for the scan rate of NeXT
machines.
The Nanao T560i 17" color display has been used with NeXTstation Color
machines, and seems to work well.
Some larger NEC displays have also worked.
5.20 Where can I get 13W3 to BNC adapters to connect third party color
monitors?
13W3 to BNC BNC to 13W3
You can get them from:NeXT/Bell Atlantic: part number S4025.
NuData in New Jersey carries 13W3 female to 4 BNC male connectors. The
price is about $100.
NuData
Voice: 908-842-5757
DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibility for the following. If you can
source the bits yourself here's how it's built.
1 female 13W3 connector
3 Male BNC connectors
3 mini coax
ie. the pins to the coaxial are male and the regular pins are female.
Looks like this.
. o o o o o . . 13W3 FEMALE
A1 o o o o o A2 A3
| | |
| | |
| | |
Red Green Blue 3 BNC's
That's the coax part. The outer shielding of the coax's are grounded
on both pin 10 and the case.
5.21 How may I attach Centronics or 16 bit wide parallel ports to the NeXT?
centronics, NeXT parallel port, NeXT
Uninet has devices, the SLAT-2 and the SLAT-DRV11, that will connect
to the scsi bus.
Uninet Peripherals, Inc.
Voice: 714-263-4222
Fax: 714-263-4299
zardoz!sales@ics.uci.edu or uunet!ucivax!zardoz!sales
5.22 Why does an unused serial port consume cpu?
serial port, cpu power usage
Perhaps you've got a (probably fairly long) unshielded serial cable
attached to it, with either nothing at the other end or a powered-off
device at the other end. EE's call this an antenna. It's probably
picking up most of the radio stations in your area, which the serial
chip is interpreting as a continuous stream of garbage bytes, which it
feeds to getty, which tries to interpret them as login attempts.
How do you avoid this problem?
* leave the device at the other end switched on (even when it's not
transmitting, it will assert a voltage that overrides the noise)
* unplug the cable from the next when you're not using it
* use 'kill -STOP' & 'kill -CONT' to stop and resume the getty
process as needed
* buy an adequately shielded serial cable
5.23 How to adjust MegaPixel Display brightness and focus?
brightness, MegaPixel focus, MegaPixel
Adjust it using the following information.
From: Charles William Swiger
I have adjusted several monitors with no problems, but make sure you
know what you are doing before opening anything. I expressly disclaim
responsibility for any ill results that may occur.
In order to adjust NeXT's MegaPixel display (called 'the monitor'
hereafter), you'll need (a) the NeXTtool (or a 3mm Allen wrench), (b)
a plastic adjustment tool (preferred) or a thin bladed screwdriver,
and possibly (c) a Phillips-head screwdriver.
(NB: A similar procedure will work for color monitors, but you should
either know what you're doing or you'll probably be better off letting
a pro deal with it.)
Turn off the computer. Disconnect all cables to the monitor. Look at
the back of the monitor. There will be 4 screws there; use the
NeXTtool (or Allen wrench) to remove them. Remove the plastic back of
the monitor and put it out of your way.
Reconnect the cables and turn the computer back on. As the machine
powers up, examine the back of the monitor. You'll see a metallic box
(usually silver, though some are black) surrounding the monitor's
vitals. This protects you against the dangerous voltages inside, and
also insulates the monitor from electromagnetic noise. On the back of
this box are several holes for performing adjustments. There are two
focus controls (labeled 'focus' and 'dynamic focus'), a brightness
control (labeled 'brightness' or possibly 'black level') and several
others that adjust various things like screen size and position.
Depending on the exact placement of the controls on the circuit board
of your specific monitor, some of these controls may be difficult (or
impossible) to adjust from the back. If this is the case, I will
describe what's necessary below. Otherwise, adjust the appropriate
controls using either an adjustment tool or a screwdriver. Be warned
that a screwdriver probably will cause some interesting video effects
when it enters the case. Ignore this the best you can, or find a
plastic adjustment tool, which is what you *really* should be using
anyway. Using a flashlight will help you see into the hole so that you
can align the business end of the tool correctly.
Focus and position controls are fairly obvious. Adjust them slowly
until you're happy with the results. Don't muck with anything you
don't need to; the factory settings are usually pretty decent.
To correctly adjust the brightness, follow this procedure: Turn the
brightness of the monitor all the way down using the keyboard. Adjust
the brightness control on the back of the monitor until a barely
noticeable picture forms. Then turn the brightness down a little so
this picture disappears completely. Check that you can get adequate
brightness by using the keyboard to brighten the screen. If the
display isn't bright enough, adjust the brightness control on the rear
of the monitor high enough so that the monitor display is adequate.
Note that you won't be able to dim the screen completely from the
keyboard...sorry.
Once you're finished, shut down the computer, take off the cables,
reattach the back of the monitor, and reconnect the cables. You're
done.
If the control you need to adjust proves to be difficult, you may need
to enter the metal case. This happened on one monitor's focus control
and another's brightness.
WARNING: THE VOLTAGES INSIDE THE MONITOR'S CASE ARE VERY DANGEROUS,
EVEN WHEN THE MONITOR IS OFF. BE VERY CAREFUL, OR YOU CAN SERIOUSLY
INJURE OR EVEN KILL YOURSELF.
DO NOT PERFORM THE NEXT INSTRUCTIONS UNLESS YOU ARE CONFIDENT THAT YOU
KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. You'll have to power off the computer again,
and disconnect the cables.
Looking at the monitor from the back, notice a section of metallic
shielding on the right side of the metal box that extends to the
picture tube. This is where the flyback transformer is connected. It
shields a wire that is charged to about 25,000 V.
WARNING: DO NOT TOUCH THIS WIRE, IT CAN SHOCK YOU THROUGH ITS
INSULATION.
Being very careful of this, remove the metal case by unscrewing the
Philip's head screws that hold the case on. Don't touch the screws
that hold the picture tube into the front of the monitor's case.
Once you've gotten the metal box off, reconnect the cables. Figure out
what control you're going to adjust, and make sure that you can do so
without touching anything else inside. Again, *watch out* for the wire
that connects to the picture tube on the right side.
Power up the computer. I recommend that you use only one hand to make
the adjustment, and that your other hand be placed in your pocket (or
similar equivalent, if you're wearing clothes lacking pockets). This
precaution reduces the chances that you'll make a short circuit
between one hand, your heart, and the other hand --- a good idea.
Perform the necessary adjustment(s), being very careful not to touch
anything inside. Then shut down and reassemble the monitor, following
the directions given above.
Hopefully, these instructions will prove useful. Once again, please be
very careful...I don't want your death and/or injury on my conscience
(or a lawsuit, for that matter, either :-)
5.24 I want to emulate a macintosh, how?
MacIntosh, emulation emulation, MacIntosh
There is a nice way to run macintosh-software on your original black
hardware.
It works fine with dual-headed cubes and is optimized for the Apple OS
- Version 7.5. To get further information about daydream, please
contact:
QUIX Computerware AG
011-41-41-440-88-28
9 hour differential
Luzernerstr.10
6030 Ebikon
Switzerland
Next software - 011-41-41-34-86-80
quix@applelink.apple.com
There is another solution, completely in software: 'Executor' from
Ardi does the job, too. (http://www.ardi.com/
5.25 My NeXT laser printer fails to fully eject the sheet - how to fix?
printer, eject, NeXT laser NeXT laser, eject paper Fix it as follows.
If you continually get messages like, "sorry, the printer is jammed"
and you have to pull each page out the last inch, you probably need to
replace the 14 tooth gear in the output stage(fuse ass'y).
You can see this gear before you disassemble the printer, so that is a
good first step. Then read these instructions all the way through and
see if you want to attempt it. Next recommends replacing the entire
fuse ass'y ( big bucks) if the gear is damaged, but Chenesko, Inc., of
Ronkonkoma, NY sells the gears for $2.31. The part number is RS1-0132.
They recommended I also replace the 20 tooth gear, number RS1-0116,
but I don't know if it is really necessary. Their phone number is
800-221-3516.
PartsNow is also selling laserprint replacement parts. Their part
number for the a replacement roller part is RA1-84489-000 000. You
might contact them for further details.
To examine your gear, open the rear (delivery ) door and undo the
screw attaching the strap that keeps the door from opening down all
the way. The gear is on the side nearest the power input to the
printer.
There are two gears on the part of the delivery ass'y that swings
down. The suspect gear engages the top one, but is mounted on the
fixed portion of the fuse. Ours had several teeth missing and/or
damaged. To get the gear off you have to remove the fuse ass'y. To
remove the fuse you must open the printer lid fully, so it is straight
up. To open the lid fully you must remove the case. To remove the case
you must remove the plastic cover on the lid.
Are you getting the idea now? This will be a lot of fun, and take most
of the afternoon. I hope you have a spacious, well-lit area, because
there are a lot of screws, and a lot of them are painted black, so
they are hard to see when you drop them, unless you drop them inside
of the printer, where you might NEVER see them again.
Fortunately, as with all computer equipment, they seem to put lots of
extras in, so just make sure there aren't any where they might do
damage, like short out the mega KILOVOLT corona power supply, or grind
into the REGISTRATION rollers. You do want your printouts to be
straight, don't you?
So, if you're ready, here we go.
* PREPARATION Most mere mortals will want to power down everything
and disconnect the cables, etc. Remove the cartridge and paper
trays, etc.
* REMOVE THE LID COVER open the lid and remove 3 screws. They DO NOT
have any red paint on them.
* REMOVE THE BACK DOOR there is one screw that holds the strap. When
you can swing it clear down, you can squeeze the hinges together
and remove the door.
* REMOVE THE CASE There are maybe seven screws that hold the case
on. Four are right on top. Two are just inside the rear door area.
Two are down inside where you store that green cleaning tool. 4 +
2 + 2 = 7, right? Say, who was the last guy that worked on this
printer anyway?
The case has to be convinced that you really need to remove it,
even when it is loose and all the screws are out.
* REMOVE THE FUSE ASS'Y You will need a PHILLIPS screwdriver for
this, as with the previous steps. But you will need a LONG one
this time. Three of the screws are pretty easy to find. Just study
the lower part of the fuse, as it is screwed onto the bottom case.
Two of the screws are inside. One is under the lid next to the
gears, the other near the green cleaning tool. On the outside, in
back, there is one on each side. One is under the white wires that
connect the fuse to the 10 AMP circuit breaker, which is pretty
near that gear, and close to the power input. Unplug that cable.
Then remove the small black crew that holds the black plastic gear
cover so you will have better access to the last screw. Then you
will have to wrestle the fuse out the back of the printer. Be
careful with it.
* DISASSEMBLE THE FUSE There are several screws and a spring. It's
not too hard to take apart. You can see the gear, so you just have
to take off the covers on that end of the ass'y to get to it. I
should caution you that I had trouble putting them back on,
because they have funny shapes and don't make a lot of sense. Plus
I was tired, so I went home, ate dinner, played with the dog, went
to bed, got up and ate breakfast before I put it back together.
You might want to label some parts, make some drawings, etc. to
reassure yourself that you can put the parts back just like they
were.
* REMOVE THE GEAR You can remove the gear pretty easily with a small
screwdriver by unspringing the "E"-ring that holds it on the
shaft. Try not to bend the e-ring.
* PUT EVERYTHING BACK TOGETHER Sorry, I can't help you with this
part (HA HA!) I told you you should read the instructions first.
Maybe you should buy a new printer, or try to attach some third
party printer via the serial port!
Well, if you got this far I hope you dropped little crumbs of bread so
you can find your way back. I try to save all the little screws by
putting them back in the holes they came from, or putting them in some
small container. You might clean some of the gears or the paper path
while you have it open. You can also install a new OZONE filter.
Remember OZONE is hazardous to your health, so you don't want to
inhale it.
DISCLAIMER: BE CAREFUL IF YOU TRY THIS PROCEDURE. THERE ARE DANGEROUS
VOLTAGES PRESENT, AND EVEN IF YOU ARE TOO CHICKEN TO WORK ON IT
POWERED UP, YOU COULD CUT YOURSELF, OR DROP THE WHOLE THING ON YOUR
FOOT, THUS VOIDING THE WARRANTY. ALSO, THE PRINTER WONÂT WORK WITHOUT
THE COVERS, BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO SECRET SWITCHES THAT INFORM THE NEXT
CPU THAT SOMEONE "IS FOOLING AROUND WITH THE PRINTER AGAIN."
Yet another update to reflect that Jacob Gore received gears for an
Apple Laserwriter from Chenesko, which are similar enough to work, but
with some modification.Also, if the original gear is in fair
condition, it can be reversed on the shaft until a replacement is
ordered.
5.26 What are the NeXT mouse connections?
mouse, connector Read the following instruction.
Thanks to Alvin Austin (austin@cs.USask.Ca) I have the information I
need on the NeXT mouse connections.
Pin Function
1 +5v
2 X Encoder Phase A
3 X Encoder Phase B
4 Y Encoder Phase A
5 Y Encoder Phase B
6 Right Button
7 Left Button
8 Ground
5.27 What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
References: NeXTanswers' hardware.620, 92_spring_bulletin "Announcing
NeXTstation Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo"
NeXT Computer (68030-25MHz/68040-25MHz),
NeXTcube (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 16
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 30-pin low profile>
SIMM access rating: 100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB
The low-profile vertically mounted 4 MB SIMMs are easier to install in
the NeXTcube than the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs because of the
small height clearance above the SIMM slots. It is possible to install
the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs, but you will be required to slide
the CPU board and the center tower in simultaneously.
Parity (9-bit) SIMMs can be used in both 68030 and 68040 NeXT
machines, but should not be mixed with non-parity SIMMs. Only 68040
boards with ROM levels of 2.2 (v63) and higher can use the parity
memory to detect parity errors.
It is OK to mix parity and non-parity memory, but the system will not
boot unattended. Cubes with early boot ROMs will not work with 4 Mb
parity ram, unless at least 3 banks are used. The system gives an
exception error on power up. The fix is to get a new boot rom from
Next.
You can pay $30, or you may be able to squawk and get one for free. I
have found Next to be pretty responsive, once I find the right person.
The correct version is v66 which was the last or final rev for this
series of 040 boards. This version also fixed the problem in the
second paragraph.
NeXTdimension boards (i860):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4, 8 MB (256Kx32, 1Mx32, 2Mx32)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB (32 MB official NeXT)
NeXT didn't officially bless the use of 8 MB SIMMs, but they seem to
fit and work.
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers below ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 30-pin
SIMM access rating: 100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
Faster SIMMS (70/80 ns) don't make the memory system work any faster
than the 100 ns units.
NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns5
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Color Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers above ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 4
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 70/100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 ,8, 16, 32 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36,
1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 128 MB
For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns
will be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to
100 ns. Faster RAM than 70 ns won't give you a speed increase anymore.
In fact it could slow things down again, because some hardware drives
60 ns RAM as 100 ns RAM.
NeXT manufacturing introduced the new 25 MHz NeXTstation CPU board
into production in late June '92. To verify which SIMM type your
machine uses, check the system's memory configuration. You can do this
by using the ROM monitor©s print memory configuration command m. Start
with your machine powered down. Press the Power key to power on. As
soon as the message ªTesting system...º disappears, press
command-command-tilde ( on the numeric keyboard). Under these
circumstances, this will access the ROM monitor. In the ROM monitor,
type m and press return. Turbo-designed boardsÐincluding new 25 MHz
NeXTstations and all Turbo systemsÐwill return messages reporting the
memory configuration contained in four sockets (sockets 0 -3); old 25
MHz boards will return messages for more than four sockets (usually
8). You can tell a Turbo-designed board, and the accompanying 72 pin,
70 nanosecond SIMMs, by the fact it only reports information for only
four sockets.
The memory system has programmable memory timing such that the number
of processor clocks needed to access a given amount of data can be
tailored to the speed of the memory installed. 70 ns memory is just
enough faster than 80 ns memory to allow the cpu to access the data
with fewer clock cycles. This improves memory system performance.
"70 ns" memory is faster than "80 ns" memory in many parameters other
than just RAS access time. The faster CAS access time in particular
allows the memory system to respond quicker to burst (16 bytes) bus
transfers.
5.28 What is the NeXT SIMM tool?
SIMM Tool The tool came with 68040 upgrade kits for NeXTcubes.
It really makes removing SIMMs easy. It looks like a dental tool:
about six inches long with a 1/2" long head offset at 90 degrees. To
remove SIMMs, you slip the head into the hole on one side of the SIMM,
rest the head on the SIMM socket next to the SIMM you are pulling, and
pivot the tool back, using the simple fulcrum to gently pry the SIMM
up about 1/8" from the socket on that side. Repeat on the other side,
and the SIMM can be then removed by hand.
5.29 Where can I purchase a NeXT machine?
Purchase, NeXT NeXT, purchase
NeXT discontinued manufacturing hardware in Feb, 1993. Used systems
are often advertised in comp.sys.next.marketplace.
5.30 Where to obtain hardware service?
service, hardware hardware, service
Hardware service can be obtained through the following firms:
USA hardware service has been purchased by Bell Atlantic. They will be
supporting the Authorized Service Centers and are selling extended
warranty contracts.
Decision One
Voice: 800 499 6398, or 800 848 NeXT
Fax: 510 732 3078
For Europe, please contact:
SORBUS
40549 Duesseldorf
Willstaetter Strasze 13
5.31 What types of NeXT machines were manufactured?
NeXT, types of cube section
There are two packages: a cube, and a station.
* NeXTcube systems:
+ 68030-25 2-bit grayscale (NeXT Computer)
+ 68040-25 2-bit grayscale (NeXTcube)
+ 68040-33 2-bit grayscale (NeXTcube Turbo)
+ NeXTdimension board adds 32-bit color (i860) to any of above
systems
Cube systems can use any of the boards. With hacks, multiple
independent CPU boards can run in one cube.
NeXT Computer systems have room for 2 full-height 5.25" internal
devices with a wide slot for an Optical Disk drive(s) in either
position.
NeXTcube systems also have room for 2 full-height 5.25" internal
devices with a wide slot for an Optical Disk drive in the lower
position, but have additional mounting holes for 1/2-height
devices, and have a floppy slot at the top position.
* NeXTstation systems:
+ 68040-25 2-bit grayscale (NeXTstation)
+ 68040-33 2-bit grayscale (NeXTstation Turbo)
+ 68040-25 16-bit color (NeXTstation Color)
+ 68040-33 16-bit color (NeXTstation Color Turbo)
NeXTstation systems have room for two 1/2-height 3.5" devices, with a
floppy slot at the side.
5.32 What can be done about older 030 NeXT cubes that have a fan that turns in
the "wrong" direction?
fan, running wrong
The fan on older 030 NeXTs cubes sucks air out of the back of the cube
which means that it draws unfiltered air in through the optical disk
on the front of the cube. This causes optical disks to succumb to dust
must sooner than cubes with the new-style fan which turns in the
opposite direction.
NeXT has apparently reversed their decision regarding fan reversal in
the case of machines that have been upgraded to 040 processor boards.
It is now considered okay to reverse the direction of fans in these
machines. If you have many third-party cards installed in your cube or
an older processor board, you may wish to consider not reversing fan
direction (overheating could become a problem). In any case, do not
reverse the fan's polarity, only reverse the fan assembly itself.
Perhaps the best solution is obtain the cleaning kit and OD filter
from NeXT.
5.33 Can I connect SONY MPX-111N to my 68030 NeXT Computer?
SONY MPX-111N
The SONY MPX-111N internal 2.88 MB floppy drive which was shipped with
all the 68040 NeXT machines is not a SCSI device, therefore there is
no way of connecting that particular drive internally on a 68030
system.
5.34 Why does the OD continually spin up and spin down?
OD, spinning
A big problem with the Canon optical drives is that air flows through
the drive to cool it. Dust accumulates inside the drive causing it to
fail with the continuous spin-up spin-down syndrome. NeXT as part of
it's 040 upgrades provided a dust filter to prevent this. If your
drive has this problem it usually can be fixed simply by cleaning out
dust from the drive. NeXT sold a cleaning kit for both the drives and
the optical disks.
5.35 How many colors can NeXT machines display?
NeXT, colors
The monochrome machines can display 4 gray levels. You can use color
apps on a monochrome machine, they will converted into monochrome
images and dithered accordingly.
Color NeXTstations can combine 4 bits of red, green and blue primaries
for a total of 4096 pure colors. The imaging functions dither the
image to produce intermediate colors.
NeXTdimension can combine 8 bits of red, green and blue for
16,777,216. There are not 16 million points on the display so all can
not be displayed at once. Further display technology limits the usable
color space.
None of the NeXT products support color look up tables where the user
can define their own color palette on a per window basis. This feature
is useful for displaying images which have adaptive lookup tables, and
display pure grayscale images on the color NeXTstation. On the
NeXTdimension images can be converted to full 24 bit representation.
5.36 Why is my machine so slow when I run the monochrome and NeXTdimension
displays?
speed, display display, speed drops
There is a bug with the window system in which if you select the
monochrome display as your primary display the server will be much
much slower. The solution for those wishing to use both displays is to
select the color (NeXTdimension) display as the primary display. The
most optimal configuration at present with the NeXTdimension is to run
only the color display.
5.37 Where to obtain replacement mouse parts?
mouse, parts
From: jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
For those who have need of a new button in their mouse, and don't want
to pay for the whole mouse when it is only the button that has gone
bad, we have recently discovered a satisfactory replacement for the
Omron switch. It is in the Digikey catalog, # 931, Jan-Feb 1993, page
141, under Cherry switches D4, DG, and DH series. Digikey part #
CH164-ND, Cherry part # DG1C-B1AA. We ordered one of these, and just
received it today. Tried it out, and it seems to be working flawlessly
so far.
It is also possible to replace mouse buttons from a two button mouse
with mouse buttons of the three button mice.
5.38 Where to obtain extra batteries?
battery, purchase purchase, battery
Battery part number: BR 2/3A 3V Lithium Battery (Panasonic)
Source: Engineered Assemblies & Components Corporation
5204 Green's Dairy Road
Raleigh, NC 27604
Phone: 919-790-9700 (ask for Debra)
5.39 How to convert a Turbo system to use ADB?
ADB, turbo system
If ADB equipment are used with older NeXT systems they won't work
properly. Here are the ADB requirements:
* A Turbo computer.
* CPU eprom version 74.
* New revision computer to soundbox/monitor cable.
The part number is molded at both ends of the connector:
Cable NEW OLD (Non ADB)
NeXTcube 4534 150
NeXTstation 4535 1532
NeXTstation color 4536 2286
* New revision monitor which uses a vertical scan rate of 72hz
instead of 68hz, except on NeXTdimension systems color monitor
stays 68hz.
Monitor NEW (72hz) OLD (68hz)
17" mono ACX (N4000b) AAA (N4000a \& N4000)
17" color ADF (N4006) ABG (N4001)
21" color ADB (N4005a) ABH (N4005)
* ADB soundbox for color systems. S/N prefix ADD instead of ABN.
5.40 68030 board in the same NeXTcube as a 68040 board?
DISCLAIMER: THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE IS NOT SUPPORTED BY NEXT, INC.
AND WILL DEFINITELY VOID THE WARRANTY ON YOUR NEXT COMPUTER. FOLLOW IT
AT YOUR OWN RISK. I DISCLAIM ALL RESPONSIBILITIES FOR DAMAGES CAUSED
BY NEGLIGENCE IN FOLLOWING THE PROCEDURE. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT
THE PROCEDURE WILL WORK ON ALL VERSIONS(?) OF THE NEXT CUBE HARDWARE.
ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT WORKED ON THE NEXT CUBE I WAS WORKING ON!!!! SO
BEWARE.
Here we go! I'll first provide a description of the hardware I was
using and comment on what I accomplished and how I got the information
on how to do it!
The hardware included a NeXT cube with 660 MB drive, OD, etc., a 68040
upgrade board, and a 68030 motherboard. I successfully installed both
the 68040 and 68030 boards on a SINGLE NeXT cube and linked them
together through their ethernet ports. The 68040 was configured as a
boot server and the 68030 was used as its client (booting off the
network for lack of an additional hard drive).
The procedure reconfigures slot #2 on the cube's back-plane as slot
#0. This provides two slots configured as #0, required for booting the
two motherboards. Once I determined what the slot pin-outs were
(thanks to my good friend John Chmielewski), it was a matter of time
before the two boards happily co-existed.
The procedure:
1. First, follow the procedure on the NeXT User's Reference manual
for removing the system board (Appendix C: Opening the Cube, page
291 of the 2.0 manual).
2. Using the NeXT supplied screwdriver, remove the two screws that
attach the power-supply housing to the cube (the screws are
located on the lower part of the housing) and gently pull the
housing out. Set it aside in a safe place (away from kids and
nosey friends!)
3. Remove the two plastic grooved plates (used to slide the system
boards in) at each side of the inside bottom of the cube. (For
each plate, lift the side closest to the rear opening and gently
pull them out). Set them aside.
4. Using the NeXT tool, remove three screws holding the back-plane to
the cube and then take the back-plane out of the cube. Let the
cube rest for a while.
Inspect the back-plane. You will see five bus slots (four vertical
and one horizontal). The horizontal slot connects the back-plane
to the power supply housing. We're only interested in the four
vertical slots. From the factory these slots are configured as 6,
2, 0, and 4 (starting from the left and going right with the
horizontal slot at the bottom).
The system board connects to slot #0 (which you've probably
noticed). Each slot contains three columns of 32 pins. Following
is an ASCII representation of one of the slots:
x y z C B A
o-o o 32 . . .
o-o o 31 . . .
o-o o 30 . . .
o-o o 29 . . .
28 . . .
.
.
.
3 . . .
2 . . .
1 . . .
...where x, y, and z are labeled GND, SID, and VCC, respectively.
The GND, SID, and VCC "holes" are used to configure the slot
number using simple binary encoding, where GND is logical zero,
VCC is logical one, and SID (for Slot-ID I guess) determines the
current bit state (one or zero).
Notice the four rows of GND, SID, VCC triads; each row is
equivalent to one bit position in the slot number, the bottom row
bit position 0, the top row bit position 3. This gives a total of
four bit positions, or 16 possible slot numbers. To encode a slot
number, you need to connect an SID row to its corresponding GND or
VCC row. For example, the diagram below shows the configuration of
the slots in my cube's back-plane (you'll have to look very
closely to see the actual connections):
SLOT 6 SLOT 2 SLOT 0 SLOT 4
BIT 3: o-o o o-o o o-o o o-o o
BIT 2: o o-o o-o o o-o o o o-o
BIT 1: o o-o * o o-o * o-o o o-o o
BIT 0: o-o o o-o o o-o o o-o o
5. To reconfigure slot 2 as slot 0, cut the trace between SID and VCC
for bit position 1 (see * o o-o * above) and connect SID to GND on
the same row. I used the SIMM removal tool supplied by NeXT in the
040 upgrade (talk about multi-purpose) to cut the trace! Very
gently, scrape the solder off between the two holes. Take a
paperclip, shape it to fit between the holes in SID and GND, and
trim it down to an even 1/4 inch (perfect fit)!
That's all there is to it. If for some reason you ever want to
revert to slot 2, just remove the paperclip from GND-SID and
reconnect it to SID-VCC.
6. Now put the cube back together. First, re-install the back-plane
using its three connecting screws, then snap on the plastic
plates, and finally insert the power-supply housing and secure
with its two screws.
At this point the cube is ready to take on the two system boards
(it is up to you to determine where/how you want to use the two
boards; I'll explain how I used mine) ...
7. I installed the 68040 in the original slot 0 and the 68030 in the
reconfigured slot 0 (previously slot 2). The 68040 was used as the
main processor board. I connected the 660 MB drive, the OD, and
the monitor to it.
NOTE: Before beginning the procedure, I went into the NeXT Monitor
on the 68030 and disabled the Sound out, SCSI tests and verbose
test mode and enabled serial port A as a console terminal. I also
made "en" the default boot device. I setup the 68040 as a boot
server and taught it about the 68030 (which took some time in
getting it setup properly).
8. I connected the 68040 to the 68030 using a thin-ethernet cable and
I booted. First thing I noticed was that the 030 timed-out a
couple of times waiting for the 040 to tell it to boot. But after
the 040 was up, the 030 booted nicely.
That's all folks. Hope all this made some sense and people find it
useful.
Comments:
* To power off the cube, I have to first shutdown the 030 (I run
"halt -p" as root from a telnet connection and wait for the 030 to
go down), and I then power-down the 040. If you shut down the 040
before the 030, you'll have to pull the power plug to turn the
machine off. The cube will not power off if either of the two
boards is providing a load to the power-supply.
* Remember, I've only performed this procedure on one system. I do
not know what will happen on your system. So make sure you plan
ahead what your going to do and that you understand the procedure.
* I don't know what problems may arise when you add a board that
uses the NeXTbus, such as the NeXTdimension, or how it will
behave. If someone is courageous enough to perform the procedure
and installs another board, please post your results to the net.
Update:
To clear up some misunderstandings with the settings in the "p"
command of the NeXT monitor (these settings are only required for the
system board that doesn't have the NeXT display monitor connected):
1. Sound out test must be "no"; the boot process will not proceed if
the monitor isn't connected to the board and this is set to "yes"
(the sound out tests will fail, aborting the boot procedure).
2. SCSI tests should be "no" if you don't have SCSI devices attached
to the board (SCSI tests will fail otherwise, aborting the boot
procedure).
3. Verbose test mode must be "no" for booting from the network. If
set to "yes", the boot process will timeout waiting for a BOOTP
and you'll be left in the monitor with no means of restarting the
board (except pulling the power plug)!
This is probably true also for booting from an OD that hasn't been
inserted (assuming the OD was attached to the board).
4. Allow serial port A as alternate console if you want to view the
boot process (for problems and peace-of-mind).
5. Other settings were not modified from their factory defaults or
had no effect on the procedure.
There is also a way in using 2 boards plus NeXTDimension board in one
Cube.
I've run my "screw with the backplane trick" cube with :
| <empty> | 32MB-ND | | 64MB-040 | 40MB-030 |
without any problems. Using the od got the system warm, but never had
a problem. The cool part was having the printer on the 030. One day I
tried to dump an 040 into the 030 position, but I couldn't get it to
boot. I played for a couple minutes, but put the 030 back in and went
on with life...
5.41 How to expand DSP memory?
memory, DSP DSP, memory
The Speech Recognition Lab at San Francisco State University has
developed a DSP memory expansion board for the NeXT computer that
provides the maximum memory supported by the DSP56001 processor. We
are now offering this board to those whose are interested in
high-performance custom DSP development.
* The board is a 576KB DSP expansion memory board organized as three
non-overlapping 192KB banks: X-data, Y-data and Program. The board
uses relatively fast (
* The board is a high-quality, 4-layer board, open-circuit tested
prior to assembly. It fits into the DSP memory daughterboard slot
on all NeXT machines.
* The price will be $600. Please let us know if you are interested.
Delivery will be in about 3-4 weeks.
* Contact Tom Holton (th@ernie.sfsu.edu). E-mail is preferred. The
address is:
Tom Holton
Division of Engineering
San Francisco State University
1600 Holloway Avenue
San Francisco, CA 94132
415 338 1529 (phone)
415 338 0525 (fax)
NOTE: Because we've organized our memory as three separate
(non-overlapping) banks (X, Y and P) of 192KB apiece, none of the
DSP memory image functionality provided by NeXT with its existing
8K base configuration, or its 96KB DSP expansion module is
supported. While we cannot guarantee that every existing DSP
application ever written will be plug-and-play compatible with our
DSP expansion memory, we are not aware of any existing
applications that use the image functionality. The MusicKit, and
demo programs that use the DSP, such as Mandlebrot and
ScorePlayer, work fine with our memory module.
5.42 How to boot a NeXT without a monitor?
The procedure is to just touch pins 6 and GND on the DB-19 NeXT
monitor out with a 470 Ohm resistor (450 is the actual resistance, but
470 ohms is more commonly found in resistors). Pin 6 is the power
sense, and pins 13-19 (and the DB shell) are the GND. Just say "pin
19", it may be easier.
There's a pinout diagram of the DB-19 in the NeXT Users Reference
Manual.
If you have an old Cube, the power supply needs to have more power
drawn from it than an 030 (and 040?) board uses to stay on. So: On the
DB-19, attach a Power Resistor (20 Ohm, at least 20 Watt) between pins
12 and GND. (Pin 12 is -12V, pin 13 works well for GND). Then just
"touch" the 470 ohm resistor as described above, and you're set. The
20 Ohm resistor draws an old 030 running without monitor in an old
CUBE), but it isn't necessary - just don't touch it (*HOT!* ;-)
To power off, type "halt -p" as root on the machine (either through a
terminal connected to port A, or over the ethernet connection).
Also, you have to have the Rom Monitor settings done correctly. The
important ones are:
Wait until keypress? N
Sound out tests? N
Port A as alternate Console? Y (if you have one, it's nice)
Verbose mode? N (I think this may need to be N to work, don't r
emember).
5.43 Where can I get black spray paint for my NeXT?
Black, spray paint paint, black spray You can get black spray from the
following address.
Sprayon Paint
Omni-Packblend
4Next-Black (icon black)
LAV-16
25216
Call 1-800-777-2966 for the name of a dealer near you.
5.44 What makes aged NeXT monitors dim?
monitor, dim
The cause of the dimming monitors is the CRT cathode wearing out. The
most common type of CRT (and the type used in most NeXT monochrome
monitors and all of the NeXT color monitors) uses what is called an
oxide cathode. A thin coating of oxide is deposited on the cathode to
allow the electronics which form the picture to get off the cathode
easily. The oxide gradually boils off the cathode itself, and when the
oxide is gone, the CRT goes dim.
Typically, the oxide will last from 10,000 to 20,000 power on hours
(screen savers don't help the cathode, they only prevent phosphor
aging). Unfortunately, the black monochrome monitors fall into the
short end of the life range thanks to Toshiba who made the CRT's. The
aging is more noticeable in Unix machines because they tend to be left
on. Note that there are about 8,000 hours in a year. If you leave your
monitor on all the time, all oxide type CRTs will be dim in three
years.
The other type of CRT cathode is the I-cathode or dispenser type. This
type of cathode is porous and continually brings new activation
material to the surface. Its lifetime is 40,000 hours or more. The
last of the NeXT monochrome monitors (N4000B) used this type of CRT
and they don't go dim. There aren't many of that type around because
NeXT quit the hardware business after producing only a few thousand.
If you can get an N4000B monitor, you won't ever have to worry about a
dim monitor.
Many manufacturers are going to dispenser cathode type CRTs in their
monitors with Panasonic leading the way. The best advice is to turn
off the monitor when not in use. If that is impractical, try to
purchase one with the long life cathode.
Spherical Solutions (smg@orb.com) has a supply of new N4000B long life
monitors for sale in either ADB or non-ADB configurations. If you need
to repair or replace a monochrome monitor, that is by far the best
type to use.
If you read this far, you probably know more than you ever wanted to
about CRT aging, but I hope this helps.
5.45 How to use two internal hard drives
drives, two internal
It is possible to fit a second internal hard drive in a NeXT slab, in
addition to the floppy drive and the first hard drive. The second
drive must be third height, or 1 inch high. There is no room for a
half height device. Buy a bracket or make one out
of sheet metal for the 1 inch high drive. On 25 MHz mono stations the
SIMMs are smaller and the drive doesn't have to go all the way against
the back wall. In this case, glue the bracket to the underside of the
NextStation cover, centered from side t
o side and as far to the back as possible. This is sufficient. On 25
MHz colorstations, however, one must file away a bit of the interior
metal on the cover in order to glue the bracket fully to the rear of
the cover. Once this modification is done, th
e drive will clear the RAM when the cover is closed. Screw the drive
into the bracket, with the power and SCSI plugs toward the right hand
side of the NextStation so that the cables will reach. Go to your
favorite computer store and get both a "dual int
ernal SCSI bus cable" and a "dual internal SCSI power cable." Plug in
the cables to both internal hard drives and close the cover.
This was verified on both a 25 MHz mono and a 25 MHz color
NextStation. No power or heating problems occurred.
6 WHITE (INTEL) HARDWARE
6.1 What about support for NeXT Computer specific hardware features such as the
DSP?
support, specific DSP, support support, DSP NeXT computers offer
additional hardware support not commonly available for Intel systems.
This includes the DSP. The DSP in a NeXT Computer is used for a
variety of functions including ISDN support and real-time audio
compression/de-compression. ISDN support for NEXTSTEP/Intel will be
provided via an add-on PC card and ISDN adapter.
Although the DSP programming feature is missing for NS3.3 on Intel, it
is not necessary. The important SoundKit functions are rewritten to
emulate an DSP on Intel, but this costs a lot of CPU time.
6.2 Do Multi-Architecture Binaries take a lot of extra disk space?
MAB, disk space multi application binary, MAB
The concept of NEXTSTEP binaries is different to other platforms. On
NEXTSTEP only the real program is compiled and linked in a hardware
specific manner. E.g. the GUI and the multilanguage support are usable
on any platform running NEXTSTEP and will do so under OPENSTEP.
Therefore the real binary part is sometimes really small.
Anyway it might be a good choice to thin such a fat binary. NeXT ships
tools for this purpose. Look at the manpages for lipo.
If an application wasn't installed using the standard NeXT tool
Installer, it might also be a good choice to look into the application
drawer and delete other languages supported but not used by the
application. This additional data is found in the different *.lproj
subdirectories in the application's folder. To get there, activate the
application's icon and select Open as directory from the Workspace's
File menu item.
6.3 How difficult is it to recompile existing NeXT applications over to
NEXTSTEP/Intel?
compile, re
Very easy. Most programs will simply recompile and run, or require few
changes. We believe that any application that uses the standard
development environment and Object kits provided by NeXT should simply
compile and run. Only applications that use architecture specific
features or data formats, will require additional time to port.
Several developers have already ported applications to NEXTSTEP/Intel.
Appsoft Draw simply recompiled and ran, Lighthouse Concurrence took 3
hours, other programs took 1/2 a day to 2 days, and this was all on a
very early release of NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.1!
Some applications just will refuse to compile, because they are still
based on the old 2.0 headers etc. These applications are really rare
now and may get ported very easily too, by changing the include path
in your developer package.
Other applications require additional header files and libraries to
properly compile and link. These applications are mostly based on the
MiscKit or MusicKit and other PD-Kits. You need to install these Kits
first to compile these programs.
With the shipping of OpenStep this might change, because it will be
possible to produce shared libraries with the NeXT Developer package.
This will enable you to not install the complete Kit, but only the
shared library and will also reduce your binary noticeable.
6.4 When developing programs, are there any portability issues I should be
aware of?
portability Yes. As stated above, any applications that use the
standard tools provided by the NEXTSTEP development environment,
should just recompile and work. To make sure developers are aware of
portability issues, NeXT is producing a guide to address source code
portability between different architectures running NEXTSTEP. This
guide is available in the online documentation to the NeXT Developer
package.
6.5 What is the difference between the NEXTSTEP/Intel User Environment and
Developer Environment?
user vs. developer developer vs. user The NEXTSTEP/Intel User
Environment consists of the entire NEXTSTEP 3.3 environment, minus the
developer tools. The Developer Environment includes the developer
tools such Interface builder, Project Builder, C compilers, Object
Kits, example source code and developer documentation.
Although it is possible to just get the latest GNU C compiler as a
binary, you can not use it! This is because you won't get the standard
libraries needed to produce NeXT applications neither the header
files. Also it there is currently no third party compiler shipping. If
you want to compile, you are forced to use the NeXT Developer package.
The status of compiling a standard UNIX utility without NeXT's headers
and just based on the supplied shared libraries is unknown.
6.6 If a specific I/O card is not supported by NeXT, can 3rd parties write
drivers for NEXTSTEP/Intel?
I/O driver Yes. NEXTSTEP/Intel uses a newly developed object-oriented
driver architecture that brings the benefits of object-orientation all
the way down to the I/O card driver level.
6.7 How is NEXTSTEP/Intel installed?
installation, Intel
NEXTSTEP/Intel will come with a boot floppy and a CDROM. To install
NEXTSTEP/Intel, the system boots from the floppy, and then installs
the minimum NEXTSTEP environment from the CDROM (SCSI CDROM drive).
The user may then chose from several optional packages depending on
the available disk space and user requirements.
6.8 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on 386 machines?
386 Intel 386 No. NEXTSTEP/Intel uses several 486 specific features
that enhance the performance of NEXTSTEP. NEXTSTEP/Intel will support
any 486 with Coprocessor and up.
6.9 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the Cyrix 486SLC?
486SLC, Cyrix Cyrix, 486SLC
NeXT states: No. The Cyrix chip not a true 486.
several other users state: Yes. Slow performance, though.
6.10 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the future Intel Microprocessors in the x86
family?
x86 Intel, x86 Yes. NEXTSTEP/Intel will not only support them, but
will take advantage of any performance enhancements available with
future Intel CPU's, just as NeXT has taken advantage of the 486.
6.11 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on portable computers?
portable computers
Yes. Many portables and notebooks with 486 CPU's and sufficient system
resources (>=8MB RAM and >=120MB hard disk space) are available. Since
NEXTSTEP/Intel will support 640x480 VGA displays in grayscale,
NEXTSTEP 486 can run on these systems. Do be aware that NEXTSTEP's
user interface and applications were not designed for low-resolution
screens, and consequently will impose limitations on the use of some
applications.
6.12 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel be able to run MS-DOS and Windows programs?
MS-DOS Windows MS-Windows
Yes. NEXTSTEP/Intel will support a DOS and Windows compatibility
package. This software will allow DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1 programs to
run within a NEXTSTEP window. Support will include DOS "Protected"
mode and Windows 3.1.
This package is called SoftPC and comes with every NEXTSTEP system.
The software is not free with NEXTSTEP, you have to pay extra. Anyway
you are not limited in a 30 day test phase when installing it.
Windows 95 and Windows NT are not supported by the emulation software.
6.13 How will my DOS and Windows applications perform under NEXTSTEP/Intel?
MS-DOS, performance Windows, performance MS-Windows, performance
Very well. The DOS/Windows compatibility package for NEXTSTEP/Intel
takes full advantage of the 486 microprocessor. Depending on system
hardware configuration and type of DOS/Windows application,
performance should vary between 386 and 486 native DOS/Windows
performance on Pentium systems. In addition, to enhance the
performance of Windows applications, a MS Windows specific Graphics
Device Interface (GDI) driver which maps Microsoft Windows calls
directly to the NEXTSTEP window server is part of the system.
6.14 Is the window I use to run Microsoft Windows applications resizable?
Windows, size MS-Windwos, size
Yes. You can set the Windows session to any size you wish up to the
maximum screen size available to the NEXTSTEP/Intel system you are
using.
6.15 Will this DOS/Windows compatibility system allow me to run several DOS
programs at once?
MS-DOS, multitasking
Yes. Since NEXTSTEP/Intel is a multi-tasking, virtual memory operating
environment, several DOS/Windows sessions can be run at once.
Hey, did I say Windows? Yes you can do real Windows multitasking with
SoftPC.
6.16 Can I cut and paste between DOS/Windows sessions and NEXTSTEP
applications?
cut&paste, Windows cut&paste, MS-DOS cut&paste, MS-Windows
Yes. You can cut and paste text and graphics between DOS/Windows and
NEXTSTEP applications.
6.17 Can I use both DOS and NEXTSTEP/Intel partitions on the same hard disk?
partitions, NeXT and DOS multi OS setup OS, more than one
Yes. NEXTSTEP/Intel will support multiple operating systems on the
same local hard disk. When the system boots, the user can chose to
boot another operating system (such as DOS) or NEXTSTEP. If the local
partition contains DOS, NEXTSTEP/Intel will be able to access the
local DOS partition and read/write files to it, with the restriction
on primary partitions only.
Executive Summary: It is possible to install DOS, Windows NT with
NTFS, and NEXTSTEP/Intel on the same disk, and select which partition
is booted at boot time.
I spent some time experimenting with a 200MB SCSI disk. I wanted to
see if the following configuration would be possible:
Partition 1 Primary DOS
Partition 2 Extended DOS
Partition 3 Windows NT NTFS
Partition 4 NS/Intel 3.2
Since Windows NT requires at least 70MB for installation, and NS/Intel
requires at least 120MB, there wasn't much room for DOS! Ultimately, I
only tested a three partition system (DOS, NTFS, NS/Intel), but I have
no reason to believe that the extended DOS wouldn't also work.
The recipe is as follows:
* Preparation. You need a bootable DOS floppy that has FORMAT.COM on
it. You need another (blank) floppy for installing NT.
* Start with the NS/Intel installation. When it asks you how you
want to configure your disk, it gives you three choices, which are
basically
1. erase the whole disk and use it all for NS/Intel,
2. save some room for DOS,
3. advanced. Choose the advanced option, which places you in
NS/Intel fdisk (not to be confused with DOS FDISK.EXE).
* Create three partitions in this order:
1. Primary DOS (if more than 32MB desired, use the "large" FAT
option)
2. HPFS (this is a placeholder for NT, and can be any non-DOS
format)
3. NEXTSTEP
* Proceed with the rest of the NEXTSTEP installation.
* When NEXTSTEP is safely installed and tested out, boot DOS from
your bootable DOS floppy.
* FORMAT the DOS partition (which should be Drive C if you made it
the first partition). You want to FORMAT C:/S, to install the boot
code to make the DOS partition bootable.
* Once DOS is safely formatted and tested out, insert the NT
installation floppy and reboot.
* Proceed with the NT installation. Tell Setup to install NT in the
second partition (which shows up as "Unformatted"). You can select
NTFS for FAT format.
* Insert the blank floppy when asked. Don't bother to format it, NT
unconditionally formats it.
* If you select NTFS, there is a scary part of the installation that
makes it seem like NT can't reboot. In fact, it is converting the
installed files from FAT to NTFS in place. Just let it keep
rebooting until it finishes, don't interrupt it like I did.
* Finish setting up NT and test it out. It should be able to see the
DOS partition in FileManager.
* Likewise, there should be a DOS filesystem in / on NS/Intel. If
you configured NT for FAT instead of NTFS, there should be two DOS
filesystems in /.
That's it. When you boot, you see the familiar NS/Intel boot manager.
If you select DOS, it boots NT, which in turn offers you a chance to
boot DOS or NT (not NS/Intel, of course). Kind of weird that you have
this two tiered boot, but it's probably because the bootsector has
been modified by NT. I haven't tried setting the active partition to
DOS -- that might avoid the two tiers.
6.18 Can NEXTSTEP/Intel read, write, and format DOS and Mac floppies?
MacIntosh, r/w floppy MS-DOS, r/w floppy Yes.
6.19 NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.1, DOS, Linux/NT multi-boot system?
multi OS boot Linux MS-DOS OS/2 boot manager dual boot
The OS/2 boot manager does this nicely.
NOTES ON INSTALLING DOS, OS/2 AND NEXTSTEP FOR DUAL BOOT
* Boot OS/2 from diskette and press Escape to get to the [A:]
command prompt
* Run the OS/2 FDISK program and create the following partitions:
+ 1 MB Boot Manager
+ 20MB DOS Primary partition (drive C:)
+ 64MB OS/2 Extended partition (logical drive D:)
+ 120MB Data Extended partition (logical drive E:) (or 200MB or
whatever size)
NOTE: LEAVE THE REMAINING 460+MB FREE SPACE UNFORMATTED DO NOT CREATE
A PARTITION FOR THE REMAINING SPACE
* Re-boot the machine and boot DOS from diskette.
* Format drive C: and install DOS on drive C: with the following
command: format c: /s /u
* Now Re-boot the machine with the OS/2 Installation diskette.
* Install OS/2 on Drive D: (the 64 MB logical partition) You will be
prompted to install OS/2 on the default drive C: You will need to
select the option to change the drive which will throw you into
FDISK. Just make drive D: installable and proceed.
* After OS/2 has been installed shutdown the system. Do a cold power
off boot.
* Cold boot the machine with the NEXTSTEP boot diskette.
* Proceed with normal NEXTSTEP install and you should get the
following disk installation option screen:
Type 1 to erase the entire disk and use all 667 MB ...
Type 2 to set aside some space for DOS and use the rest ...
Type 3 to keep existing partitions and use the 462 MB free space ...
Type 4 to use the 184 MB DOS extended partition for NEXTSTEP.
Type 5 for advanced options (in English only).
--->
Choose option number 3 and proceed with the NEXTSTEP install
* After NEXTSTEP has been installed, re-boot the machine and select
'd' from the NEXTSTEP boot manager menu to boot DOS.
* When DOS has booted, run the FDISK program to set the active
partition to the first partition, the BOOT Manager partition. Then
exit fdisk.
* Now run the DOS FDISK program again but with the following
parameter: fdisk /mbr This command removes the NEXTSTEP boot
manager from the DOS partition.
* Now re-boot the machine and the boot manager should come up.
Select OS/2
* Once OS/2 has booted, run the OS/2 FDISK program and name the
NEXTSTEP partition and add it to the boot manager menu.
* You should now have a machine with DOS, NEXTSTEP, OS/2 listed in
the boot manager menu when the machine starts up. The boot manager
defaults to the OS that was last booted.
6.20 NeXTSTEP on INTEL, KEYBOARD-ERROR ...
keyboard error, Intel
We installed NeXTSTEP for Intel on a P5-Board using an Adaptec A1540
SCSI-Controller. The System boots correctly. After running the kernel
the keyboard is without any function. We can't use it anymore.
Rebooting doesn't eliminate the error (advise from I-Guide).
Well, it seems that the PS/2 Mouse driver interferes with the keyboard
driver when installing on some motherboards. You have to remove the
PS/2 mouse driver, then reboot, and it will work fine. I destroy the
driver on our machines, so that config=Default will work properly as
well. You should be able to remove the driver without reinstalling.
6.21 NS 3.2 Tseng ET4000 Video Driver doesn't work.
ET4000, NS3.2
TSENG Cards often have different DACs and BIOS-Versions. It is
important, that the graphics card do have the original BIOS from TSENG
Laps. Otherwise, it is not possible to run NS with the 1024 x 768
resolution.
6.22 Accessing ROM monitor on Intel-System, how?
ROM-Monitor, Intel On Intel you just type -s at the boot: prompt. Also
try CTRL-C at the point where it hangs it might continue. This gives
you single user mode. There simply is no ROM-Monitor on Intel as it is
on NeXT. You do have the choice to enter a simple ROM-Debugger by
choosing the appropriate option when the system hangs.
6.23 Adaptec 2940 Fast and Sync. SCSI explanation...
This message is to clear up the confusion on the issue of whether or
not the NEXTSTEP driver for the Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Host Adapter
supports Fast SCSI (i.e., 10 MB/s data transfers).
The Adaptec 2940 SCSI Host Adapter Driver supports Synchronous Data
Transfer as well as Fast SCSI transfers. In order to enable
Synchronous Data Transfer, this feature must be enabled in both the
2940's AutoSCSI program and in the NEXTSTEP Configure application,
when configuring the Adaptec 2940 driver. In the AutoSCSI program,
this feature is enabled in the SCSI Device Configuration menu, via the
"Initiate Sync Negotiation" field. This can be enabled or disabled on
a per-target basis. In the Configure application, the "Synchronous"
button, if disabled, disables Synchronous Transfers for ALL targets.
If enabled, the values selected in the AutoSCSI program are used to
determine whether or not Synchronous Transfers occur on a per-target
basis.
The Synchronous Transfer data rate is determined in the 2940's
AutoSCSI program, via the "Maximum Sync Transfer Rate" field in the
SCSI Device Configuration menu. "Fast SCSI" Transfers are enabled by
selecting a value of 10 (i.e., 10 Megabytes/seconds) for this field.
Note that if Synchronous Transfers are disabled, the "Maximum Sync
Transfer Rate" field is meaningless. Also note that it is not
recommended to select a value higher than 5 for a device which is in
an external enclosure and connected to the 2940 via an external SCSI
cable.
6.24 Do EIDE-Drives work with NEXTSTEP?
EIDE
Yes, a driver is included in NEXTSTEP 3.3
6.25 Anyone have a driver yet that does 8 bit color on an ET4000/w32p card?
(Hercules Dynamite Pro VLB)
ET4000/w32p, 8 Bit color
Here's a trick that will work with 3.3 if the driver works with your
adapter. You need the latest driver though.
Simply select one of the 8-bit gray resolutions in Configure. Save the
configuration and quit Configure. Open Instance0.table inside the
driver bundle and search for BW:8 and replace it by RGB:256/8. Save
the file. Restart your machine and you've got 8-bit color!!!
6.26 Does a Glidepoint pointing device work with NEXTSTEP?
Glidepoint
It will work nicely under NS as you don't need any driver to make it
work and use the nice features that GlidePoint have, like 'double-tap'
to replace left-button click and 'double-tap and slide on the pad' to
replace the hold the button and move for dragging an object.
6.27 AppleTalk under NEXTSTEP/Intel?
AppleTalk, Intel IPT has a product called Partner, which works fine
under 3.3 and mounts AppleShare Volumes, supports AT printing etc.
(This is true, although IPT states that Partner only runs under 3.3
Black and 3.2 Intel.)
6.28 Booting hangs with black screen
Triton Bootoptions
On some Triton based boards there seems to be a graphic problem while
booting. The solution is to switch off graphic display and always boot
with the '-v' option turned on (enter this at the 'boot:' prompt).
If you don't get a 'boot:' prompt, or if you just want to fix things
forever, you need to enter Default.table and Instance0.table in
/usr/Devices/System.config and set 'BootGraphics="No"'. This has the
same effect as typing '-v' at the 'boot:' prompt every time.
Setting BootGraphics=NO can also be done from the Expert panel in
Configure.app
6.29 Why are the features of my graphic card useless?
graphic card
For the purposes of this discussion, I will limit my response to the
manner in which DPS operates as part of the NEXTSTEP window server.
DPS sometimes draws directly to the screen and sometimes to offscreen
memory (buffered windows). The latter is the most common case. The
former occurs only in nonretained windows and visible portions of
retained windows.
DPS is split into two sections: a device independent kernel and a
device dependent driver layer. The driver layer is free to use
graphics hardware to do its job; however there are complications.
First, most graphics cards only allow you to use the hardware to draw
into the framebuffer, not into system memory. This renders the
hardware unusable for buffered windows. Second, the hardware must draw
the same pixels that the software would draw. Often this is hard to
achieve with satisfactory performance results. The DPS device
primitives rely on precise pixel layout that often cannot be
guaranteed using the hardware in the most straightforward manner.
So, while it is theoretically possible to use graphics hardware with
DPS in NEXTSTEP, it is not very practical. This should not lead you to
the conclusion that all graphics cards are the same when it comes to
NEXTSTEP. The speed of the system bus (ISA, EISA, PCI, VLB) is a big
determinant of performance, but the internal architecture of the card
itself also has a huge impact on the framebuffer memory bandwidth. I
won't go into details, but some of the determinants include DRAM vs.
VRAM, memory interleaving, and burst access.
Other factors also influence the quality of a display card. These
include the speed and stability of the RAMDAC and the supported
display modes to name jsut two.
6.30 How to use MIDI without the MusicKit?
MIDI MusicKit
* Be sure you have an MPU-401 compatible MIDI card for the PC.
* Get the Music Kit and install it. It's on the ftp servers.
* Install the MIDI driver by double clicking on
/LocalLibrary/Devices/Mididriver, which will add it to the system.
Set the IRQ and IO port in the Configure.app. Then reboot.
* If your program does not use the -ObjC flag on its link line, link
against /usr/local/lib/libmusickit.a. However, if your program
does use the -ObjC flag, extract the following files from
libmusickit.a and link against them
explicitly:
mididriver_replyServer.o
mididriverUser.o
mididriver_nonMig.o
* Add this line as the first line in the C file that accesses the
MIDI driver:
#import <musickit/midi_driver_compatability.h>
Be sure that you do not explicitly import . This file is
(conditionally) imported by .
The reason for needing a separate API for Intel is that there's a
structure size disparity between the 68k and Intel versions of
NeXT's libsys_s. So we defined a new set of MIDI functions for the
Intel driver. The header file above defines the old names to be
the new names.
* Change the mididriver port name from mididriver to Mididriver.
Example:
#if i386
#define MIDIDRIVER_NAME "Mididriver"
#else
#define MIDIDRIVER_NAME "mididriver"
#endif
r = netname_look_up(name_server_port, "",MIDIDRIVER_NAME,
&driverPort);
This is another change to prevent conflict with the NeXT hardware
driver.
6.31 Installation problems with EIDE and ATAPI drives
EIDE installation ATAPI
Load the SCSI driver and then load the EIDE driver. Don't follow the
directions they give you (which are to load the CD's driver and then
load the hard drive's driver). Do it backwards, so that the hard drive
you are installing to gets assigned sd0. By swapping drivers like
this, the CDROM gets sd1 which is what the installation procedure
expects.
I guess that what happened is that the EIDE driver makes the CDROM
drive masquerade as a SCSI device. And SCSI ids will be assigned to
devices in the order that you load the drivers. Since the OS wants to
load to sd0, that means that you have to load the hard drive's driver
before the CDROM's driver, especially in this case where the CD is on
one bus and the HD is on another. By doing this, the CD doesn't steal
sd0 away before the SCSI driver is loaded. My guess is that if you had
the CD and the hard drive on the same bus (EIDE or SCSI) you'd never
have this trouble. It's just the fact that there are two busses that
confuse the installation. Anyway, this worked for me (Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com).
6.32 Error message during boot time
error, during boot message, bootstrap
The following is a common error message you might encounter during the
boot process just before the workspace starts up: bootstrap_register
failed -- 102. You may ignore it savely. It will only occur if you
didn't installed a sound driver.
6.33 Does NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP run with ...
compatibility
Although there are problems running NEXSTEP/OPENSTEP in conjunction
with certain hardware, these problems are rare and most people got it
working somehow. It's best to buy supported add-on cards listed in the
Intel-Configuration section of NeXTanswers
http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/. However most mainboards do work.
Yes, this includes Pentium-Pro processors.
NO, this excludes MP support (if you don't know what it is, never
mind) (Okay, MP: Multi-Processing. Some boards are capable to keep
more than one processor. However NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP doesn't take
advantage of more than one processor).
Also most multiprocessing boards do work with a single or more
processors (even if a second or further processors aren't utilized)
there are reports which indicate that there are problems with these
boards.
6.34 RAM greater 64MB, now I get a black screen!
screen, black black screen
Many users discouver a nice effect: They add RAM to their computer so
they have more than 64MB of RAM installed. After rebooting
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP only a black screen appears and the system is
stalled.
This is a common problem. Reboot using the default configuration or
with the VGA driver installed. Run Configure and select your graphic
driver. Enter a value greater 64MB (in hexadecimal numbering,
eg.0xA000000) and save. That's it. Previously your drivers memory did
collide with your computers memory.
6.35 Lost root password
root, password password, root
The following is a method on how to change the root password on an
Intel based computer. However if the system is booted over a network
this won't help.
Boot in single user mode supplying '-s' to the boot prompt. Once the
system is halted. Start NetInfo by running 'sh /etc/rc'. Now use 'nu
-m' to change the password and reboot (enterying 'reboot' of course.
Not pressing the power button! I didn't had to tell this, did I?)
7 STORAGE
7.1 Disktab help needed: ST15230N
disktab ST15230N Seagate, ST15230
This is the /etc/disktab entry for the SEAGATE ST15230N.
ST15230N_1024|SEAGATE ST15230N_1024:\
:ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#3992:nt#19:ns#59:ss#1024:rm#5411:\
:fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:hn=localhost:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#512000:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#8:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:\
:pb#512000:sb#512000:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#8:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
:ib:tb=4.3BSD:\
:pc#1024000:sc#716800:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#8:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\
:ic:tc=4.3BSD: \
:pd#1740800:sd#1536000:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#8:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\
:id:td=4.3BSD: \
:pe#3276800:se#1150000:be#8192:fe#1024:ce#8:de#4096:re#10:oe=time:\
:ie:te=4.3BSD:
7.2 Formatting DEC DSP3105 with 1024-byte blocks.
DEC, DSP3105 DPS3105, 1024 block size disktab
A DEC DSP3160S was reformatted with 1024-byte blocks using the
following entry in /etc/disktab (two partitions)
# DEC DSP3160S
DSP3160S|DEC DSP3160S|DEC DSP3160S w/1024 b/sec as 2 partition:\
:ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#1302:nt#16:ns#75:ss#1024:rm#5403:\
:fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:r0=a:\
:pa#0:sa#744000:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#7:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:\
:pb#744000:sb#818400:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#7:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
:ib:tb=4.3BSD:
7.3 My formatted disk has much less space then advertised!
filesystem, overhead disk space space, disk filesystem, space
Let's assume you bought a disk drive advertised with 400 MB
unformatted capacity. Vendors are not consistent with the MB
definition. You may have much less space less than you think you have.
Which of the following did you buy?
400 * 1000 * 1000 = 400,000,000 bytes
400 * 1024 * 1000 = 409,600,000 bytes
400 * 1024 * 1024 = 419,430,400 bytes
(for Quantum drives the following is true: Quantum defines 1MB to be
exactly 1000000 Bytes).
The disk must be formatted. This is often done by the vendor, but
occasionally by the user. Formatting maps the disk into sectors. Space
is reserved for the disk geometry and bad sectors. Formatting can take
10-20% of the capacity depending on the sector size. Common sector
sizes are 512 and 1024. Generally, bigger sectors mean less waste.
Once formatted, the UNIX file system must be created. On the NeXT,
this is one of the steps performed by the BuildDisk application. It
invokes the mkfs command to make a file system. This reserves space
for the UNIX file system (e.g., superblocks, inode tables). This
overhead can take another 2-3% of the available disk space.
If you issue the df command, you may be surprised to see another 10
the available disk space has disappeared. The df command shows the
total, used, and available disk space. The df units are in kbytes
(1024 bytes). The sum of the used and available numbers will generally
be about 10 allow the UNIX file system to be efficient in its storage
allocation. If your disk fills up, only the superuser can store files
in the remaining 10%.
To complete the picture, here's a snapshot of what may occur:
Capacity Lost/Used/Reserved Reason
(in bytes) (in bytes)
419,430,000 19,430,000 Marketing hype (~5\%)
400,000,000 60,000,000 Formatting (~15\%)
340,000,000 6,800,000 UNIX file system (~2\%)
333,200,000 33,320,000 Efficiency & superuser (~10\%)
299,880,000
For more information, refer to the df and mkfs man pages.
7.4 Can't initialise my disk within the Workspace
initializing
Sometimes there are problem initializing disks. This only occurs if
the disk is already formatted, but in a different format, e.g. the
sector size was changed etc.
Mostly you can overcome this problem by using the sdformat utility
available on the FTP sites. (Not sdform by NeXT, which is incapable to
do this). After using sdformat, you should be abel to further format
the media within Workspace.
7.5 Initialing Opticals for NeXT
OD, NeXT optical disk, OD OD, initializing
Do the following:
/etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 288339 1803 2 8192 1024 12 10 60 4096 t
7.6 How to use a tape drive ?
tape drive
Using Configure.app add the SCSITape driver to support any SCSI tape
drives in the "Others" config.
7.7 How to recover from an partially formatted disk?
recover, disk
Often people (mostly on Intel) complain about a formatted disk
(sometimes partially) due to an installation process error of some
other OS. There is a chance to recover most of the data. The following
assumes you are on Intel, other hardware user have to handle things
much less complicated, but the way is similar:
* Prepare a new hard drive for booting
* Don't try to repair the broken drive!
* On Intel run fdisk to repartition the drive as it was before. If
you are not able to do this, you are lost. Delete all evtl. new
created partitions. By repartitioning, you won't loose data on the
drive.
* Run disk on the broken drive e.g. type disk -rsd1h.
* Now scan the disk for superblocks by entereing the scan command at
the interactive disk command prompt.
* If your disk was partially formatted, use a higher superblock
number to supply fsck with an new superblock. E.g. if a superblock
was found at 3145 use fsck -b3145 -y /dev/sd1a (assuming the first
partition is the broken one).
* After this run, it is most important to reboot without syncing the
drives! E.g. just turn off the computer without shutting down, or
use the reboot -n command.
* After rebooting the run fsck again, if it isn't done by the system
itself.
* You should be able to access the drive again now. Recovered files
are placed in the /lost+found directory.
7.8 What about the ZIP drive?
IOmega, ZIP ZIP drive
There are frequently asked questions about the IOmega ZIP drive. One
question will be answered here: 'Yes, it works with NEXTSTEP'.
For other question I'd like to point you to the ZIP-drive FAQ:
http://www.radical.com/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html
7.9 How to partition a 4GB drive
4GB drive 2GB partition limit Quantum sizes
If you are going to use large drives (greater 2GB) you need to
partition this drive (true at least for OS versions up to 4.0). These
are the common ways to go without too much trouble and it provides an
very easy way for 4GB drives under NS3.3.
1. Solution: disktab
+ If you need more than 3 partitions, you have to write a
disktab entry! Using fdisk (Intel systems only) has no
effect.
+ On how to write a disktab entry, read the NeXTanswers (search
for partition)
+ other pointers are: 'scsimodes' and 'man disktab'.
2. Solution: installation on drive to partition
+ for Quantum drives the following is true: Quantum defines 1MB
to be exactly 1.000.000 bytes. So if you are suited best by
using 2 partitions on a Quantum Atlas 34300 (4.3GB
drive-Quantum size, 4GB+5MB real size)
+ 2 partitions are automatically handled on all NS3.3 platforms
+ To easily install the drive by not writing a disktab entry do
the following:
o disconnect all other drives and connect the 4GB drive
with ID 0
o start a plain NS3.3 installation via disks and the
CD-ROM
o when the installation of files starts (text based
output) you may break the procedure (the disk will get
fsck'ed later) or wait until the system reboots and
hangs :-) (no fsck needed then)
o you should previously have read some line telling you:
initializing sd0b
o now reconnect your old boot drives and restart NEXTSTEP
with the old boot drives. Switch the 4GB drive to a
different ID.
o Only the first partition of the 4GB drive will get
mounted automatically, this is due to a documented bug
in the automounter.
o to permanently mount both partitions, add your drive
partitions to the /etc/fstab file. Test mounting and
umounting by hand first.
o everything should work fine now after a second reboot,
and if you set up your fstab file correctly, both
partitions will get mounted.
+ To switch the boot partition to the new 4GB drive continue
with:
o only the first partition is bootable (you'll notice that
by doing a ls -l on the mount entry --- there is the 't'
file mode)
o (cd / ; gnutar -clf -)|(cd ; gnutar -xvpf -) This
transfers your root partition to the new partition.
o now try a boot from the new drive, by entering in the
boot prompt: sd(x)mach_kernel (bsd for NeXT)
7.10 How to mount/ignore a disk during boot
fstab mount, during boot disk, protection protection, disk disk,
ignore foreign filesystems filesystem, ignore
If you just format a new disk attached to your computer, it will get
automounted by the Workspacemanager and unmounted when you log out. To
utilize the disk during the boot process or to have fixed pathes and
protections you need to create an entry in /etc/fstab for the drive.
See the Unix manual pages for more details.
This is also the solution for ignoring disks or partitions of a disk
with a foreign filesystem, which the Workspacemanager otherwises would
prompt you for formatting.
A common mistake for /etc/fstab is to inlcude the noauto keyword in
subsequent mounts. Don't include this keyword for further mount
entries!
7.11 Can't read multisession CD-ROMs!
CD-ROM, multisession multisession
Argh. Yes it's true. The original NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP drivers can't read
multisession CD-ROMs. Only the first session can be used. If it is
audio, CDPlayer is started if it's data it is just automounted to
become accessable though Worksapce manager.
Luckily there is a commercial driver out there, which enables
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP to take advantage of multisession CD-ROMs.
CDXA Driver
Price DM 48,- (about $US 30)
Uwe Tilemann
Tools GmbH
Adolfstr. 5
D-53111 Bonn
GERMANY
Phone: +49 0228 98580-0
Fax: +49 0228 98580-17
Email: ut@Tools.DE (NeXTmail/MIME)
WWW: http://www.Tools.DE/
8 PRINTING
8.1 What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with NEXTSTEP?
printer, NeXT
Adding supported postscript printers is rather simple:
* Get a serial cable (e.g., Macintosh to LaserWriter Plus), but
check whether that works with your printer
* Configure using Print Manager
* Configure printer communication according to manufacturer's
recommendations. (9600 baud software flow control).
A sample printcap entry needs to be loaded into the netinfo database.
You can use either niload printcap . , or use NetInfoManager to change
the br and lp properties of your LaserJet. Using the default baud rate
and /dev/ttya will also work, for most print jobs (if the printer is
connected to this port).
LaserJet_III: \
:note=LaserJet_III:ty=HP LaserJet III PostScript: \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/LaserJet_III:lp=/dev/ttyfa: \
:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:af=/usr/adm/lp.acct:br=19200:rw:fc\#0000374: \
:fs\#0000003:xc\#0:xs\#0040040:mx\#0:sf:sb:if=/usr/lib/transcript/psif:
\
:of=/usr/lib/transcript/psof:gf=/usr/lib/transcript/psgf: \
:nf=/usr/lib/transcript/psnf:tf=/usr/lib/transcript/pstf: \
:rf=/usr/lib/transcript/psrf:vf=/usr/lib/transcript/psvf: \
:cf=/usr/lib/transcript/pscf:df=/usr/lib/transcript/psdf:
HP printer configuration:
auto cont = off (doesn't matter)
I/O = serial
serial=rs-232 (for LJ III only)
baud rate = 19200 (or whatever baud rate you have
in ni database/printcap)
robust xon = on (doesn't matter)
dtr polarity = hi
startpage = off (doesn't matter)
language=english
ret = med (you choose for LJ III only)
Note that if you modify the printcap this way you cannot reconfigure
this particular printer entry with PrintManager.
If you are using NEXTSTEP 2.0 and you use remote non-next printers,
there is a bug that can be simply corrected by doing "dwrite system
PrinterResolution 1" for each user trying to access non-next printers
on the network. This not a problem in later NEXTSTEP versions.
8.2 What fonts can I use with NEXTSTEP?
fonts
Properly packaged Type 1 or 3 PostScript fonts will work with
NEXTSTEP, but certain conversions may be necessary to get them to
work. Freeware and shareware fonts are available on various ftp
archives. There are utilities with NEXTSTEP to download fonts into
postscript printers.
Freeware and shareware Type 1 and 3 fonts in files
Fonts-1.0-free.tar.Z and Fonts-2.0-sw.tar.Z. Each file unpacks into
it's own directory. Within each directory is a ReadMe.rtf and a
Makefile. See the ReadMe.rtf for more font descriptions and
installation instructions. (You may also find comments in the Makefile
of interest.) These packages were prepared by Doug Brenner .
The same directory contains fonts Shalom (Hebrew and Yiddish in Old
Style, Stick and Script typefaces, by Jonathan Brecher, shareware) and
CyrillicGothic (san serif, by Jay Sekora). These were packaged by
Jacob Gore to work with the Installer application.
WSI-Fonts for NEXTSTEP \#1
Abstract Software
POB 25045
Seattle, WA 98125-1945
Voice: 206 361 5080
info@abstractsoft.com
Some fonts in Type 1 format for NEXTSTEP are also available from Y&Y:
Y\&Y, 106 Indian Hill, Carlisle MA 01741 USA
Voice: 800 742 4059
Voice: 508 371 3286
Fax: 508 371 2004
71172,524 on CompuServe
71172.524@compuserve.com from InterNet
There is a font converter available in the MetroTools package by
MetroSoft (info@metrosoft.com).
8.3 How can I save my printable documents to a postscript file?
PS to file
Select PRINT from the main menu, then select SAVE from the resulting
print panel.
8.4 How can I print only the even or odd pages of a document?
odd and even pages even and odd pages duplex printing double sided
print
I wish print on both sides by feeding the paper through twice.
We must recommend against re-using laser printed paper in your
printers. The reason is that the toner which is used is not very
robust, in that when heated again (which happens when you print) it
can come off the other side of the paper. This causes a mess to
accumulate in your printer, and probably some pretty rude things to
happen.
psutils from comp.sources.misc is a much better solution, and includes
a lot more capabilities, plus it is being updated constantly.
8.5 How do I get banner pages on my printer output?
banner
There is a sample banner prologue file in /usr/lib/NextPrinter that is
sent to the printer before or after the print job depending on what
printer attributes are set in NetInfo. Sounds gross, but it isn't.
Start up NetInfo on your printer machine. Go to the printer directory,
and open up your local printer by double clicking it. Select the
append property from Directory menu. Replace the name with BannerAfter
(or BannerBefore if you want the banner page printed first). The
select the New Value option, and put in the name of the banner
prologue file. If you do not wish to do fancy customization of the
file, simply put the path to the NeXT sample banner file:
/usr/lib/NextPrinter/banner.pro
Save out the netinfo modifications.
8.6 How do I get [la]TeX files to print correctly on non-NeXT printers?
Latex TeX
If you are printing to a non-NeXT printer from NeXT TeX using dvips,
make sure you specify the correct resolution (300 dpi, usually),
either on the command line with -D300, or in the
/usr/lib/tex/config.ps file with a line that looks like : D 300
If you are printing from within TeXView, you will have to choose
CustomResolution and enter the correct number (300, usually) because
of the way DefaultResolution defaults to 0.
8.7 What if I have a PostScript font has not been ported to NEXTSTEP?
PS-Font to NeXT
Many PostScript fonts port to NEXTSTEP with little effort.
The easiest case is a font generated by Fontographer version 3.2 or
above (a comment near the top of the file should say which program
generated the font). This version of Fontographer can generate fonts
"for NEXTSTEP". This means that no hacking of the font is needed, but
you may need to make some adjustments to make it appear in your font
panel.
Suppose you were porting the font family Shalom, which consists of
three faces: Old Style, Stick and Script. Here is the procedure to
follow:
* In a working folder of yours, create folders called:
Shalom-OldStyle.font
Shalom-Script.font
Shalom-Stick.font
Note that the font family name is to the left of the hyphen ("-"),
and the typeface name is to the right and with no spaces in it.
* Copy the outline font file for each typeface from wherever it is
into its folder, and give it the name of the folder minus the
".font". For example, if you are doing this in a Terminal window:
cp /Floppy/ShalomOldStyle.NeXT Shalom-OldStyle.font/Shalom-OldStyle
cp /Floppy/ShalomScript.NeXT Shalom-Script.font/Shalom-Script
cp /Floppy/ShalomStick.NeXT Shalom-Stick.font/Shalom-Stick
If you are working in Workspace Manager's File Viewer,
double-click on the big fat F icon to open the font directory as a
folder, then you'll be able to rename files in it.
* Do the same thing with the font metric files, but make the suffix
".afm":
cp /Floppy/ShalomOldStyle.AFM Shalom-OldStyle.font/Shalom-OldStyle.afm
cp /Floppy/ShalomScript.AFM Shalom-Script.font/Shalom-Script.afm
cp /Floppy/ShalomStick.AFM Shalom-Stick.font/Shalom-Stick.afm
* If there is a "read me" file with the font, or any other
documentation, copy it into the .font folder too. For example,
each of the Shalom font folders contains files ReadMe,
CheatSheet.wn and Sample.wn specific to the typeface.
* Edit the outline and font metric files to make them fit the NeXT
AppKit's Font Panel, which is what most NextStep applications use
to let you choose your font.
+ Editing the outline file, e.g.,
Shalom-OldStyle.font/Shalom-OldStyle:
The original used "ShalomOldStyle" as the font's name, full
name, and family name. We want the name to be
"Shalom-OldStyle", the full name "Shalom Old Style", and
family name just "Shalom".
First, find the lines:
/FullName (ShalomOldStyle) readonly def
/FamilyName (ShalomOldStyle) readonly def
and change them to:
/FullName (Shalom Old Style) readonly def
/FamilyName (Shalom) readonly def
Then, replace all remaining occurrences of the string
"ShalomOldStyle" with "Shalom-OldStyle".
+ Editing the AFM file, e.g.,
Shalom-OldStyle.font/Shalom-OldStyle.afm.
Find the lines:
FullName ShalomOldStyle
FamilyName ShalomOldStyle
and change them to:
FullName Shalom Old Style
FamilyName Shalom
Replace all remaining occurrences of the string "ShalomOldStyle"
with "Shalom-OldStyle".
Repeat this procedure for the remaining typefaces.
* You now have a font family ready to be installed. If the font
family is to be used by your account only, place it in
/Library/Fonts (creating it if necessary):
mkdirs ~/Library/Fonts
mv Shalom-*.font ~/Library/Fonts
buildafmdir ~/Library/Fonts
If everybody on your system should have access to this font
family, place it (as superuser) in /LocalLibary/Fonts:
su
mkdirs /LocalLibrary/Fonts
mv Shalom-*.font /LocalLibrary/Fonts
buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts
exit
That's all you need to do for fonts generated by Fontographer version
3.2 or above. This will work with all applications that use AppKit's
FontPanel. FrameMaker does not, so other changes may need to be done
to keep FrameMaker happy [does anybody have something to add here?].
Fonts generated by Fontographer version 3.1 or below don't work in
Display PostScript as they are, because they use a memory management
trick that screws everything up in a multitasking environment like
DPS. However, there is a simple, though kludgy, way to make them work.
The problematic trick uses a dictionary with a name like "Fog3.1"
("Casa1" in Casady & Green's fonts) in which most of the font resides.
The problem is that Fontographer puts that whole dictionary into
dictionary 'userdict' and expects it to stay there. DPS, however,
clears out 'userdict' between tasks, including the task that loads the
font and the task that uses it. This makes the font useless on the
screen, and printable only by prepending the outline font file to the
file you want to print and sending the result to print in one task.
The fix is to move the troublesome dictionary from 'userdict' into the
font dictionary itself (unlike 'userdict', the font dictionary does
stick around between tasks).
Perform the following changes in the outline font file (the font
CyrillicGothic is used as the example):
* Find the line "%%EndProlog". It will be followed by the line like
this:
/\$CyrillicGothic 23 dict def \$CyrillicGothic begin
Write down the number before 'dict' (in this case, 23). You will
need it in the following step. Delete the dict definition, making
the line look like this:
\$CyrillicGothic begin
* Go back to the beginning of the file. near the top of the font
program, find the following lines:
userdict/Fog3.1 known\{\{currentfile( )readstring
\{(\%\%\%)eq\{exit\}if\}{pop exit\}ifelse\}loop
\}if
userdict begin/Fog3.1 45 dict def Fog3.1 begin
and replace them with these:
/\$CyrillicGothic 24 dict def
\$CyrillicGothic begin/Fog3.1 45 dict def Fog3.1 begin
The number before 'dict' (in this case, 24) is one greater than
the number you wrote down in the previous step.
* Find the line that defines procedure BuildChar:
/BuildChar{Fog3.1/BuildChar get exec}def
and change it as follows:
/BuildChar{1 index begin Fog3.1/BuildChar get exec end}def
* Go to the end of the file. The last line looks like this:
/CyrillicGothic findfont/EFN get Fog3.1 begin\{RF\}forall end
Delete it (or comment it out by placing one or more " beginning of
it).
The AFM file requires one adjustment. Change the line
EncodingScheme AppleStandard
to
EncodingScheme AdobeStandardEncoding
This concludes conversion of a font generated by Fontographer version
3.1 or lower to work with NEXTSTEP. You may still need to make the
changes described for version 3.2 and above, to make the font fit the
NEXTSTEP font panel.
Short note: under NEXTSTEP 3.3 there is no need to call buildafmdir by
hand. It's triggered automatically by the Font panel.
8.8 What color printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with NEXTSTEP?
printer, color
The (no longer sold) NeXT/Canon SCSI color printer, of course!
With Dots Color, the HP DeskJet 500C can print in color today, under
NEXTSTEP 2.1, and it costs significantly less than $1000 (in Germany
at least).
In Germany you can get more information from:
d'ART Software GmbH
Virchowstr. 17-19
W-2000 Hamburg 50
Germany
Voice: +49 40 380 23 0
Fax: +49 40 380 23 290
software@dart.de
JetPilot from Interpersonal Computer does this jobs also very well.
You can get more information from:
interpersonal computing GmbH
Oettingenstrasse 2
W-80538 Muenchen
Germany
Voice: +49 89 22 28 63
Fax: +49 89 22 33 76
info@interpc.de
8.9 How can I make the Page Layout default to A4 in all applications?
A4 default size
Add "NXPaperType A4" in the "GLOBAL" preferences.
8.10 /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: syntax error at line 31: `end of file'
unexpected?
Using lpr -t, or lpr -d causes this problem. eg:
[...]
cat /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf
[...]
Christopher Lane has pointed out 3 (three!) errors in the distributed
NEXTSTEP 3.0 lpd.comm file
The last change is my own. It worked for the 1 (one!) dvi file I
tried.
tilley\% diff lpd.comm.DIST lpd.comm
11,12c11,12
< while "x\$1" != x do
< case "\$1" in
---
> while test \$\# != 0
> do case "\$1" in
16c16
< -h) HOST=\$"; shift;;
---
> -h) HOST=\$2; shift;;
17a18
> esac
21c22
< PRSERVER="/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver -p \$PRINTER -n \$USER
-h HOST -f -"
---
> PRSERVER="/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver -p \$PRINTER -n \$USER
-h \$HOST -f -"
27c28
< psdf) psbad \$FILTER \$PRINTER \$USER \$HOST | \$PRSERVER;;
---
> psdf) dvips -f -D 400 -r | \$PRSERVER ;;
8.11 How to get TeX with NEXTSTEP to make proper fonts for a 600 dpi
laserwriter?
600dpi TeX fonts TeX, 600dpi
If you upgrade to a 600 dpi laserwriter then the version of TeX that
ships with NEXTSTEP (either 2.X or 3.0) does not know about 600 dpi
fonts, i.e. does not know how to make them and will instead use scaled
400 dpi ones (which look significantly worse at 600 dpi than they do
at 400 dpi). Some simple modifications to a few Metafont files and
rebuilding the metafont bases are all that is needed. What to do to
get the 600 dpi stuff working is as follows:
* Edit /usr/lib/mf/inputs/next.mf and add a laserjetIV mode. Simply
copy the entire imagen mode, change the name to laserjetIV, and
change the pixels_per_inch to 600. Save the changed file.
* Build a new mf.base file by executing the following commands:
inimf "plain; input next; dump"
(as superuser): cp plain.base /usr/lib/mf/bases/mf.base
* Edit /usr/lib/tex/ps/config.ps and change the `D 400' line to `D
600' (you may have `D 300' or something else if you've set up a
different printer.)
* Edit /usr/bin/MakeTeXPK (as superuser), adding the lines
elif test $BDPI = 600
then
MODE=laserjetIV
right before the second `else' in the file.
That should do it! You might have to (depending on how you configure
NEXTSTEP for the LaserJet IV) select `custom resolution' and set the
gadget to 600 in the TeXview print panel, and save Preferences. These
instructions are written for an HP Laserjet IV, but they should also
work for a QMS printer just fine.
Finally, if you have one of these printers and work in a "mixed"
environment with perhaps 400 dpi and/or 300 dpi printers that you also
print to on a regular basis then you might want to consider getting
Type 1 PS version of the Computer Modern fonts instead. They obviate
the need for the instructions above, and the savings in disc space
will be considerable since having printer fonts for several printers
takes lots of room, and the file sizes for 600 dpi are quite large
(the files grow roughly as D logD, where D is the resolution). These
fonts are made by Blue Sky Research, and work beautifully. Y&Y
software is a reseller for BSR and sells a "NEXTSTEP specific" version
of them which comes with appropriate instructions and installation
scripts.
8.12 How to get printer description files (PPD)?
PPD, where? printer description files, PPD
Adobe has a mail server and ftp site where you can get .PPD files.
They are:
ps-file-server@adobe.com (put "send help" in the mail body)
ftp.mv.us.adobe.com
8.13 What are the Canon part numbers for ink cartridges equivalent to those
NeXT's Color Printer uses?
ink cartridge, Canon Canon, ink cartridge
Part Numbers are:
Red: BJI-643 M
Yellow: BJI-643 Y
Blue: BJI-643 C
Black: BJI-643 Bk
8.14 JetPilot does not work with my JetDirect box, why?
JetPilot, JetDirect JetDirect, JetPilot eXTRAPRINT
It seems, that there is a bug in the /etc/rc-script. The bootpd is
given with to arguments -a -f, which are not available for the bootpd
under 3.3.
Make an entry in /etc/bootptab like this:
\#
\# host htype haddr iaddr bootfile
\#
printer 1 XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
where
* host: your given hostname for the printer (eg. picasso)
* haddr: The Ethernet hardware address (Can be seen, if you press
the TEST-Key on your JetDirect box.
* iaddr: Is the hostaddress for the printer (eg. 192.42.172.1)
Entries have to be done also in the Netinfo-database. It's like adding
a new host.
Insert the following line to your etc/rc.local script:
\#
\# Starting JetDirect-Printer configuration
\#
fbshow -B -I "Starting Printer initialization" -z 92
/usr/etc/bootpd -d /etc/bootptab >/dev/console 2>\&1
There is an additional FAQ available at:
ftp://ftp.gscorp.com/pub/support/HP_JetDirect_Configuration.rtfd.tar.g
z
8.15 powering down NeXTprinter during bootup, printer still works
power down, printer printer, printer down
Type the following to your rc.local.
\#turn off NeXT laser printer.
fbshow -B -I "Powering off NeXTprinter" -z 95
if [ -f /usr/etc/nppower ]; then
sleep 3
/usr/etc/nppower off
(echo 'powering off NeXTprinter') >/dev/console
fi
This works fine... the printer powers down immediately, and is
available for any app which wants it.
8.16 How to set up the HP LaserJet 4M?
HP Laserjet 4M
I solved the problem by building a serial cable based upon the pinouts
supplied by HP in their manual. Please note that the LJIII cable does
not work. In particular, pin 1 from the DIN plug must be connected to
pin 6 of the DB25. I used 38500 bps on both sides, and the 600 dpi
ppd.
Emulex offers the NETJet network interface which speaks lpd protocol,
unlike the HP unit.
8.17 Laserwriter NTX & NEXTSTEP
Laserwriter NTX
This are the pin assignments.
Eight-pin mini DIN-8 RS-422 Port
Pin Signal Description
1,3 SG Signal Ground
4 TxD+ Transmit Data +
5 TxD- Transmit Data -
8 RxD+ Receive Data +
9 RxD- Receive Data -
IBM-compatible DB-25 Plug LaserWriter DB-25 Plug
Signal Pin Pin Signal
Shield 1 ............ 1 Shield
TxD 2 ............ 3 RxD
RxD 3 ............ 2 TxD
RTS 4 ............ 4 RTS
CTS 5 ............ 5 CTS
DSR 6 ............ 8 DCD
GND 7 ............ 7 GND
............ 20 DTR
The other aspect is to set the DIP switch on the printer. Here are the
DIP switch settings:
Switch 1 Switch 2 Meaning
UP UP LocalTalk---RS-232 port disabled
DOWN UP Serial ports at 1200 Baud
UP DOWN Serial ports at 9600 Baud
DOWN DOWN RS-232 at 9600 Baud; RS-422 at 0 Baud
Switches 3 and 4 can probably be ignored---they're for strange stuff
like Diablo 630 and HP LaserJet emulation modes.
Switch 5 Switch 6 Meaning
DOWN DOWN XON/XOFF
UP UP XON/XOFF
DOWN UP ETX/ACK
UP DOWN DSR
8.18 Problems with gray levels in printout
gray levels color space PS Level2
If you have problems with your shades of gray (e.g. light gray is
indistinguishable from white) this might be well a problem in the
Level2 Color Space calibration of your printer.
To ensure, it's a problem of your printer (and not a problem of the
printer driver or PPD file) try the following:
* Save a printout to a file
* Edit the following line in your printout file:
/\_NXLevel2 systemdict/languagelevel known {languagelevel 2 ge}{false}i
felse \_\_NXdef
to:
/\_NXLevel2 false \_\_NXdef
* Send the modified file directly to the printer using the
commandline command lpr.
If you still have problem with the shades of gray, the printer
driver/PPD file is probably broken, otherwise your printer is broken,
which means he has problems with the Level2 color space calibration
(The given correction turns PS Level2 off).
8.19 Can't print using additional fonts
printer, fonts
In rare circumstances some printers refuse to print, if they don't
recognize a font. In these cases add the _nxfinal form property to the
printer's property list with NetInfo.
9 OBSOLETE BUT STILL INTERESTING?
This chapter contains information covered in the early days of the
FAQs. It is not updated anymore. Note that with new releases of
NEXTSTEP and OpenStep some information might still be useful to those,
who e.g. didn't update.
9.1 Where can I get NeXT paraphernalia?
Paraphernalia NeXT paraphernalia are no longer available. Let's stop
reading 1 minute and remember the times ..... Thanks!
9.2 Is there any way to change the text in the title bar of a terminal window?
There is no way of changing the title bar of a Terminal.app window in
2.x; in 3.x there is. Check Preferences (Title Bar): set CustomTitle,
type in the title, and hit CR (or Set Window) and voila!
[From: andre@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Andre Roberge)]
Actually, there is a way to change the title bar of a Terminal window
in 2.x (at least in 2.1 which is what I am using). It is somewhat
limited but it might be useful to some.
The trick is to make a symbolic link between /bin/csh (or whichever
shell one wishes to use) and a file in / named
"Whatever_you_want_to_appear_in_the_title_bar". Then select this new
"shell" in the terminal preference and, voila!, you'll have your
terminal window with /Whatever_you..... in the title bar.
You can edit Stuart's titlebar interactively from the "Window..."
Inspector (Command-3).
Stuart provides emulation of certain Operating System Command (OSC)
sequences which can be used to modify the titlebar under subprocess
control.
Stuart can change the title of the current window from the command
line. In Stuart is possible to get more descriptive titles by linking
/usr/ucb/rsh to /usr/hosts/. Then by adding /usr/hosts to your Stuart
ShellPath you can then get the hostname into the title bar:
$ dwrite StuartShellPaths <various dirs>:/usr/hosts
You should then type in the hostname as the shell to invoke (disable
the "Shell reads .login file" for this. You can also add hosts to your
.Stuartrc file:
Shell=golem.ps.uci.edu
SourceDotLogin=NO
WinLocX=545
WinLocY=563
Lines=24
|
WinLocX=76
WinLocY=833
For the localhost, link /bin/csh to /usr/hosts/, or even better
/usr/local/bin/tcsh instead of using rsh.
[From: Garance A Drosehn ]
For what it's worth, I do this with a script called "telnet_to" and a
(bash) function called "telnet_window". The function simply does a
local soil_pars="-Lines 32 -Keypad YES -Reverse \
YES -Strict YES -TestExit YES";
soil -Shell "telnet_to $1" $soil_pars
and the script is just:
#!bin/sh
/usr/ucb/telnet $*
echo ' '
echo ' --> telnet exited, press enter to close window.'
read -r Waste_Var
exit 0
This has a number of advantages, not the least of which being that I
can pop up a "telnet_window" to anywhere. I don't have to create links
for each host (though I do create aliases for the most common hosts),
and I can type "telnet_window" (or, e.g., "tel_aix") as a unix
command.
Also, if I lose the connection suddenly then the window stays around
until I get a chance to see what happened. I use telnet instead of rsh
because I generally connect to hosts which won't accept rsh's.
9.3 I can't get my pictures in OmniWeb
OmniWeb You have to install the OmniImage.service in your
/Library/Services or /LocalLibrary/Services (This is also a nice way
to get pictures converted in other applications as well.
You can ftp this from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
9.4 How do I remap the and | keys on my keyboard?
Keyboard
NeXT introduced a new keyboard configuration with the 040 products.
The
| keys which had been located on the main keyboard was moved to the
numeric keypad. Many users have since complained about it, and a work
around is to remap these keys using the demo application Keyboard
(/NextDeveloper/Demos/Keyboard), Mike Carlton's keyboardfix program:
ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/sources/next-interface/keyboardfix.tar.Z
...which lets you put these keys on shift-return or shift-delete. One
can hope that there will be a choice of keyboards in the future.
9.5 How do I stop NeXTMail/Sendmail adding &Mcirc;s onto the end of lines?
Sendmail
In /etc/sendmail.cf make this change:
[old code]
##### UUCP Mailer specification
#####
Muucp, P=/usr/bin/uux, F=msDFMhuU, S=13, R=23,
[new code]
##### UUCP Mailer specification
#####
Muucp, P=/usr/bin/uux, F=msDFMhuU, S=13, R=23, E=\n,
This has been fixed in 3.1, and the default mailhost sendmail is UUCP
oriented.
9.6 Why does NEXTSTEP 1.0 hang a few seconds after attempting to boot?
Boot hang, NS1.0
Release 1.0 contains a bug that can corrupt the kernel /odmach if a
user attempts to launch /odmach from the browser. The solution is to
copy a clean /odmach from another NeXT system. Be sure to change the
permissions of the newly installed /odmach to remove execute
permissions to prevent future occurrences of the same problem. Release
1.0a and beyond do not have this problem.
It is possible for the sdmach to get corrupted in the same way. Boot
from the OD, copy an uncorrupted version of the kernel to the hard
disk, and remove the execute bits from sdmach.
9.7 Modem hangs under NS2.0 by incoming calls
modem calls, incoming
There is a bug in the serial driver which causes getty to get stuck.
The situation arises after a successful uucico connection, subsequent
connections via modem will get a connection with the modem, but no
login prompt.
This is caused by getty hanging. A simple work around is to have a
process run in cron to reset the getty every 15 minutes:
#! /bin/sh -u
PIDS=`ps -ax | bm getty | grep -v bm | awk '{print $1}'`
kill -TERM $PIDS
Of course trying to connect when the script is running will not allow
you to connect, try again a minute later. This fix will not affect
on-going UUCP or interactive connections. This will probably be fixed
in the next kernel release.
This bug is corrected in NEXTSTEP 2.1 and later releases.
9.8 NS2.0 doesn't recognize /LocalApps path
/LocalApps, NS2.0
Workspace has its own internal application path. In 2.0 /LocalApps was
omitted. Improv needs to have /LocalApps in the Workspace path if you
have Improve installed in /LocalApps. The work around in 2.0 only is:
dwrite Workspace ApplicationPaths "~/Apps:/LocalApps:/NextApps: \
/NextDeveloper/Apps:/NextAdmin:/NextDeveloper/Demos"
This bug is corrected in NEXTSTEP 2.1 and later releases.
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From: scholz@NOSPAM.peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: The NeXT-FAQ (Frequently asked questions)
Date: 11 Apr 1998 01:40:59 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
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Due to a software bug, the FAQ was accidently posted twice. Please
excuse the double posting.
Aufgrund eines Softwarefehlers wurde das FAQ fälschlicherweise 2x geposted.
Ich bitte dies zu entschuldigen.
Bernhard.
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From: a2663376@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Markus Vollmert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: python für next3.3
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:31:28 GMT
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
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hi
hat hier irgend jemand schon mal python für next compiliert? ich hab
mir die 1.5 sourcecodes gezogen, krieg die aber nicht zum laufen.
das ganze soll mit einem apache server unter NS3.3 für Intel laufen.
vielleicht giebt es ja irgendwo schon eine fertige version für next,
ich brauch mindestens 1.3.
für weitere infos über python: www.python.org
bis dann
markus
Markus Vollmert - a2663376@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de
From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: popover.app: Nachrichten werden nicht vom Server gel?scht
Date: 11 Apr 1998 08:29:55 GMT
Organization: DX-Team 88 - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
Message-ID: <6gn9m3$72o$1@news.vossnet.de>
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Moin!
In <6gleru$kup$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann wrote:
> Evtl. liegt es daran, dass du eine zu alte PopOver Version
> benutzst. Die 1.6 (v77) sollte es tun, hoehere Nummern koennen
> nicht schaden ;-) Wenn es das war, bitte informiere mich kurz per
Genau diese benutze ich. (Das waren auch die einzigen, die iauf peak und in
berlin rumlagen)
Und nu? :-)
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22143 Hamburg, Germany
eMail: jogi2@vossnet.de (NeXTMail welcome!)
jsi@stardivision.de (StarOffice-Mail welcome!)
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Canon-Treiber f. NeXT (es gibt sie!)
Date: 11 Apr 1998 08:55:09 GMT
Organization: DX-Team 88 - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Moin!
N Freund von mir hat an einer weissen NeXT einmal einen CANON BJC betrieben
und er sagte mir gestern, das der Autor wohl ein Argentinier sei. Er sucht
zwar die Disketten raus, aber besser wäre natürlich eine Quelle im Internet.
Auf den tausenden von Canon-Pages kommt nichts sinnvolles raus, sobald mal
drei Begriffe mit UND verknuepft, daher die Frage:
Wer weiss wo ich die Treiber (waren IMHO Demos) im Netz finde?
Vielen Dank!
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22143 Hamburg, Germany
eMail: jogi2@vossnet.de (NeXTMail welcome!)
jsi@stardivision.de (StarOffice-Mail welcome!)
*DX-Team since 1988*
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: popover.app: Nachrichten werden nicht vom Server gel?scht
Date: 11 Apr 1998 09:34:01 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6gnde9$5ka$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
: Moin!
: In <6gleru$kup$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann wrote:
: > Evtl. liegt es daran, dass du eine zu alte PopOver Version
: > benutzst. Die 1.6 (v77) sollte es tun, hoehere Nummern koennen
: > nicht schaden ;-) Wenn es das war, bitte informiere mich kurz per
: Genau diese benutze ich. (Das waren auch die einzigen, die iauf peak und in
: berlin rumlagen)
: Und nu? :-)
Dann logge mal alles mit, was in dem Dialog zwischen PopOver und Popserver
passiert. Dies hier ist von Jason Fosback:
You can turn logging on in PopOver by opening a Terminal window and typing:
dwrite PopOver Developer YES
In order to turn logging off, you need to type:
dremove PopOver Developer
Keep in mind that this will log everything, INCLUDING your plain text password. The logging only works with the NEXTSTEP version of PopOver, and will dump the logs to your console (Workspace->Tools->Console).
Evtl. siehst Du ja dann, ob der Server eine Fehlermeldung schmeisst und
so...
Wenn gar nichts hilft, dann kannst Du ja mal von Hand testen, ob das
Loeschen geht (telnet popserver 110).
HTH
Axel
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haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Canon-Treiber f. NeXT (es gibt sie!)
Date: 11 Apr 1998 09:36:40 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
: Moin!
: N Freund von mir hat an einer weissen NeXT einmal einen CANON BJC betrieben
: und er sagte mir gestern, das der Autor wohl ein Argentinier sei. Er sucht
: zwar die Disketten raus, aber besser wäre natürlich eine Quelle im Internet.
: Auf den tausenden von Canon-Pages kommt nichts sinnvolles raus, sobald mal
: drei Begriffe mit UND verknuepft, daher die Frage:
: Wer weiss wo ich die Treiber (waren IMHO Demos) im Netz finde?
Der Argentinier ist bestimmt Federico Heinz, also heisst die Software
Dots.app. Sollte auf ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de als Demo irgendwo rumliegen.
--
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kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: Guido.Beneke@desy.de (Guido Beneke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Lighthouse Distiller 2.0 ??
Date: 11 Apr 1998 11:06:38 GMT
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron (DESY)
Message-ID: <6gniru$62o$1@claire.desy.de>
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In der Datei LighthouseDistiller.service/services muß
Executable: lighthousedistiller
durch
Executable: lighthouseDistiller
ersetzt werden, anonsten tut sich gar nichts.
Habe bisher keine Fehler mit dem Distiller feststellen können, was beim
WhiteLightning Distiller so nicht der Fall war. Allerdings werden PostScript
Fonts (Type 1), die in der PS Datei enthalten sind, nicht in die PDF Datei
übernommen. Habe allerdings keine Ahnung, ob das spezifikationsmäßig korrekt
ist oder nicht.
Bei einem Blick in die Datei boilerPrologue.nips fällt übrigens auf, daß
Lighthouse da wohl irgendwas von der OmniGroup hinzugekauft haben muß...
Allen viel Spaß beim Eiersuchen,
Guido
armin@devicen.de (Armin Retzko) wrote:
>Aber mich wuerde trotzdem interessieren, ob jemand den LighthouseDistiller
>zum laufen und zum "Distillen" ueberedet hat. Wie gesagt, bei mir (NS3.0,
>OS4.2 Moto) funktioniert er nicht.
From: Guido.Beneke@desy.de (Guido Beneke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: miro crystal 32S: power saving / APM ?
Date: 11 Apr 1998 11:15:58 GMT
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron (DESY)
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Ich glaube, daß kann man vergessen: Soweit ich erinnere, funktioniert es nur
im VGA Modus bei 640x480. Auch SW mit 8 Bit Farbtiefe funktioniert nicht,
Farbe ebenfalls. Da ich normalerweise Single-User meine Backups mache, hält
die Maschine bei eingeschaltetem APM und entsprechenden BIOS Einstellungen
das Backup dauernd an, während sich im Normalbetrieb nichts tut. Toll!
Allerdings sollte es doch mit Notebooks funktionieren, oder?
Guido
hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.uunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>Mein neuer 19" Monitor (übrigens ein *hervorragender* Kompromiß zwischen
>17" und 21" - sehr zu empfehlen!) kann DPMS in vielerlei Stufen.
>Leider ist es mir bisher nicht gelungen, trotz aller APM Einstellungen
>in NS (4.2), BIOS (ASUS P90/TP4) etc. den gwünschten Effekt einer
>Monitor-standby-Schaltung hinzubekommen. Nur 'blank screen' reicht
>offenbar nicht aus, da noch V/H sync anliegen. Ich möchte, daß nach
>x Minuten Inaktivität BackSpace (z.B.) in Aktion tritt und den Monitor
>schlafen schickt. Die Grafikkarte (Jahrgang '93-'94) kann m.W. nach
>kein DPMS. Weiß jemand, ob und wie das funktioniert? (Uli?)
>
>Holger
>--
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>'Where I come from it's important to develop stuff that doesn't suck.'
> -- David Young <dwy"at"ace.net>
>
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Software =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= Mailingliste
Date: 11 Apr 1998 12:04:03 GMT
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Hallo,
gibt es Software für NeXT um eine Mailingsliste zu realisieren?
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From: Ingo Rose <beldam@teuto.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: NeXT Cube !
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 18:45:21 +0200
Organization: PoP teuto.net Bielefeld
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suche gebrauchten next rechner !
angebote bitter per mail !
mindestens 32 mb
incl. OS
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Software =?iso-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= Mailingliste
Date: 11 Apr 1998 16:16:33 GMT
Organization: Rainer at home
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Juergen Grieb <juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> wrote:
> gibt es Software für NeXT um eine Mailingsliste zu realisieren?
Ja.
Gruß,
Rainer
PS. Ach so, ja: majordomo läuft auch auf NS. Setzt perl voraus.
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Newbie-Fragen :-(
Date: 11 Apr 1998 18:15:50 GMT
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In <6glf6k$55s$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
> Hi....
>
> Ich bekam eine eMail in der ich auf NeXTToYou Ausgabe sowieso
> hingewiesen wurde, denn meine "Reimport-Newbie"-Fragen scheinen nicht
> allen zu gefallen :(((
Es hat mit Gefallen nicht viel zu tun. Ist leider alles nicht so trivial.
NeXT hat leider versäumt, hier die Unix-Konfiguration wie den Rest
perfekt zu verbergen. Die NEXTTOYOU hat dies halt alles schön sauber
aufgeschrieben und ein Hinweis auf diese ist einfacher als 20 kb Text. :-)
> Ich lese eigentlich jeden Fetzen den ich bekomme, aber IMHO fehlt eine
> MINI-FAQ um NeXT-Newbies (ohne das ganze Geraffel von peanuts) schnell
> ans Netz zu bekommen.
Tchja, Du kannst gerne Deine Erfahrungen in ein solches einfließen lassen.
:-) Mir ist leider keins bekannt, bis auf das Peanuts-FAQ.
> von pop3.vossnet.de zu empfangen und NEWS eben via NewsGrazer an/von
> news.vossnet.de.
nimm' bitte nicht NewsGrazer. Es gibt bessere, z. B. Alexandra oder
RadicalNews. Dort mußt Du nur in den Preferenzen die News-Server eintragen.
> Alles andere erfahre ich - wenn oftmals auch unter Neuinstallation -
> durch Try&Error ... :) ... und lesen [Literaturempfehlungen nehme ich
> gerne an!].
Es gibt eine Online-Doku zu einigen SysAdmin-Sachen. Zu Lesen mit
Librarian.app, wenn Du die Dokumentation aus
/NextLibrary/Documatation/SysAdmin hinzugefügt hast.
> Ich werde Euch also nicht mehr mit Newbiefragen nerven, wenn ich
> irgendwo ein FAQ finde, welches mir bei o.g. hilft, jedoch auf Nexttoyou
> zu verweisen und da steht nix (und ne Suchmaschine ist Fehlanzeige) ist
> IMHO genauso daemlich wie meine Newbie-Fragen, oder?
Es gibt keine dummen Fragen, es gibt nur dumme Antworten. :-)
Egal was ist, die NEXTTOYOU ist fuer einen NeXTler im deutschsprachigen Raum
sowieso pflicht (Sorry für die Eigenwerbung ... :-)
Gruss, Gerald
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Lighthouse Distiller 2.0 ??
Date: 11 Apr 1998 08:58:09 GMT
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In <6gfp0t$16s$1@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> In <6gfdm0$gss63@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> H.-R. Oberhage wrote:
> > Frank ist guuuuuuuut ...
> > und steht auch zur Verfuegung und macht weiter. Oder wird er auch
> > aufgekauft :-)?
> > ...
> Danke, Danke fuer die Blumen :-) Es geht weiter mit PStill und es steht
noch
> kein Kaeufer vor meiner Tuer *lach*.
Und selbst wenn - ich glaube kaum, daß der sich Dich leisten kann... :-)
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Canon-Treiber f. NeXT (es gibt sie!)
Date: 12 Apr 1998 06:59:48 GMT
Organization: DX-Team 88 - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Frohe Ostern!
In <6gndj8$5ka$2@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann wrote:
> Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
> : Moin!
>
> : N Freund von mir hat an einer weissen NeXT einmal einen CANON BJC
betrieben
> : und er sagte mir gestern, das der Autor wohl ein Argentinier sei. Er
sucht
> : zwar die Disketten raus, aber besser wîre natþrlich eine Quelle im
Internet.
> : Wer weiss wo ich die Treiber (waren IMHO Demos) im Netz finde?
>
> Der Argentinier ist bestimmt Federico Heinz, also heisst die Software
> Dots.app. Sollte auf ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de als Demo irgendwo rumliegen.
Mag sein, nur eine Suchfunktion wie auf peanuts gibt es nach meinem bisher
bescheidenen Wissen wohl leider nicht?
Ein Demo-Verzeichnis habe ich bisher nicht gefunden, aber ich werde mir wohl
mal die index-Datei saugen und alles brav durchackern :)
Danke fuer den Tip!
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Newbie-Fragen :-(
Date: 12 Apr 1998 07:05:51 GMT
Organization: DX-Team 88 - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Frohe Ostern!
In <6goc0m$kjr@mimi.stepman.com> Gerald Erdmann wrote:
> In <6glf6k$55s$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
> Es hat mit Gefallen nicht viel zu tun. Ist leider alles nicht so trivial.
> NeXT hat leider versäumt, hier die Unix-Konfiguration wie den Rest
> perfekt zu verbergen. Die NEXTTOYOU hat dies halt alles schön sauber
> aufgeschrieben und ein Hinweis auf diese ist einfacher als 20 kb Text. :-)
Stimmt, nur leider gibt es manche - fuer mich sicherlich interessante -
Ausgaben nicht mher (vergriffen).
Ich habe auuch am Donnerstag per eMail welche nachbestellt und darum gebeten
mir z.B. den Artikel "Internet..." Teil 1 ggf. per Mail oder Kopie zu
schicken, denn wenn es den eh nicht mehr gibt, so wird der Autor oder die
Redaktion das Teil ja wohl noch haben, oder?
Ansonsten finde ich die aktuelle NEXTTOYOU-Ausgabe sehr interessant und
wenigstens meine SB AWE64-Problem konnte ich dadurch loesen, das ich in der
Konfiguration einen anderen Erlkennungscode eingegeben habe. Thx!
> Tchja, Du kannst gerne Deine Erfahrungen in ein solches einfließen lassen.
> :-) Mir ist leider keins bekannt, bis auf das Peanuts-FAQ.
Ich werde sicherlich einige Sachen zusammenschreiben - alleine schon
deswegen, weil ich sonst immer so viel vergesse - und es dann auch zur
Verfuegung stellen :)
-> nimm' bitte nicht NewsGrazer. Es gibt bessere, z. B. Alexandra oder
> RadicalNews. Dort mußt Du nur in den Preferenzen die News-Server eintragen.
Wie Du siehst :-)
-> Es gibt eine Online-Doku zu einigen SysAdmin-Sachen. Zu Lesen mit
> Librarian.app, wenn Du die Dokumentation aus
> /NextLibrary/Documatation/SysAdmin hinzugefügt hast.
Hab ich, auch habe ich viele MAN <Befehl> Sachen ausgedruckt, bis mein
bestelltes UNIX-Buch da ist :-)
> Es gibt keine dummen Fragen, es gibt nur dumme Antworten. :-)
Sehr schoen. :-)
> Egal was ist, die NEXTTOYOU ist fuer einen NeXTler im deutschsprachigen
Raum
> sowieso pflicht (Sorry für die Eigenwerbung ... :-)
Ich habe sie abonniert.
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: popover.app: Nachrichten werden nicht vom Server gel?scht
Date: 12 Apr 1998 07:08:38 GMT
Organization: DX-Team 88 - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Frohe Ostern!
In <6gnde9$5ka$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann wrote:
> Dann logge mal alles mit, was in dem Dialog zwischen PopOver und Popserver
> passiert. Dies hier ist von Jason Fosback:
Sehr guter Tip, nur habe ich den "Fehller" (eher die Umstaendlichkeit)
gefunden:
Zuerst DEL markiert wohl nur "DELETE" und dann "Compact" ueber Kontextmenue
aufrufen und wech sind se.
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Usergroup
Date: 12 Apr 1998 07:21:39 GMT
Organization: DX-Team 88 - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Hi!
In <1d7633l.dzcvajpry6cmN@surfk185.koeln.netsurf.de> Thomas Klaassen wrote:
> Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
> Soweit ich das verstanden habe, war die RDR1 nur für Programmentwickler
> gedacht, damit diese mit der Entwicklung von Software oder Portierung
> von OS/NS zu Rhapsody beginnen können. Von einer entgültigen Oberfläche
> war nirgendwo die Rede.
Auch wenn eine BETA voellig anders aussehen kann als eine spaetere Release
(wer Entwickler jeden Tag um sich hat, weiss das <g>), so habe ich den Wink
der Apfel-Fetischisten schon verstanden, das Apfel-Kunden in grosser Zahl
vorhanden sind und man denen mit dem (geilsten ) Outfit (einer
Unix-Oberflaeche, Anm. d.A.) von NeXT nicht verschrecken will. Das das Apple
keine positiven Zahlen beschert hat und die Gemeinde der Apfel-Freunde nicht
zunimmt ist da scheinbar nicht so wichtig. Jeder LINUX-Fan koennte problemlos
mit NeXT umgehen, jedoch wird kein Linux-Fan sich einen Apple mit
OldMacOS-Look&Feel antun!
Apfel-Fetischisten muessen sich aber eine Frage gefallen lassen:
NeXT hat seit Bestehen Features, die heute bei Wintel-Systemen erst Einzug
halten (alleine das Setup ist uebersichtlicher, geiler, besser) und Apfel
kraenkelt seit JAHREN vor sich hin - warum ist das denn so? Weil
Apfel-Look&Feel gut ist? Eher nicht...
NeXT hatte nur keinen Durchbruch weil es suendhaft teuer ist/war und gerade
mal Studies sich die Stations im F&L-Preisgefuege leisten konnten, spaeter
dann evtl. mal Studies, die schon einen Wintel-PC hatten....
Der Erfolg auf Client-Server-Markt blieb aus, weil auuch dort das Verhaeltnis
einfach zu gigantisch zu den PCs der damaligen zeit war.
Aber: Spezialisten, wie das AWI, Klimaforschungszentrum u.v.m. hjaben auch
heute noch eine NeXT, denn fuer Spezialanwendungen sind die Kisten einfach
bestens geeignet.
Das aendert nichts an der Tatsache, das NeXT(Step) viele Win<DEL>-User in
Staunen versetzt, wenn man denen sagt, das das NeXT auf der Maschine VOR
Windows95 und NT auf dem Markt war.....[und sie wissen dann auch wer von wem
kopiert hat].
FAZIT:
Steve, lass uns nicht im Stich und lass Schalter einbauen, die es
ermoeglichen eine NeXT mit n bischen Apple zu sehen!!!
Erfolg hat nur der, der etwas riskiert - und bei NeXT-Look&Feel riskiert man
nichts :-)
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: popover.app: Nachrichten werden nicht vom Server gel?scht
Date: 12 Apr 1998 12:45:37 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
: Frohe Ostern!
: In <6gnde9$5ka$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann wrote:
: > Dann logge mal alles mit, was in dem Dialog zwischen PopOver und Popserver
: > passiert. Dies hier ist von Jason Fosback:
: Sehr guter Tip, nur habe ich den "Fehller" (eher die Umstaendlichkeit)
: gefunden:
: Zuerst DEL markiert wohl nur "DELETE" und dann "Compact" ueber Kontextmenue
: aufrufen und wech sind se.
Das POP-Protokoll spezifiziert, dass DEL nur zum Loeschen markiert,
und ein anstaendiges QUIT sollte die Loeschung dann ausfuehren. Fehlt das
QUIT (d.h. wird die Verbindung einfach so terminiert, weil beispielsweise
der Client abraucht), werden die DELs nicht ausgefuehrt. Das war bei
aelteren PopOver-Versionen mit manchen PopServern ein Problem, weil PopOver
damals einfach QUIT gesagt hat und dann close auf den filedescriptor. Deswegen
auch mein erster Vorschlag.
Axel
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Canon-Treiber f. NeXT (es gibt sie!)
Date: 12 Apr 1998 12:47:07 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
: Mag sein, nur eine Suchfunktion wie auf peanuts gibt es nach meinem bisher
: bescheidenen Wissen wohl leider nicht?
: Ein Demo-Verzeichnis habe ich bisher nicht gefunden, aber ich werde mir wohl
: mal die index-Datei saugen und alles brav durchackern :)
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/apps/commercial/Dots.3.6.NIHS.b.tar.gz
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Newbie-Fragen :-(
Date: 12 Apr 1998 20:19:40 GMT
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In <6gpp4f$lap$2@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
> > Es hat mit Gefallen nicht viel zu tun. Ist leider alles nicht so trivial.
> > NeXT hat leider versäumt, hier die Unix-Konfiguration wie den Rest
> > perfekt zu verbergen. Die NEXTTOYOU hat dies halt alles schön sauber
> > aufgeschrieben und ein Hinweis auf diese ist einfacher als 20 kb Text.
:-)
>
> Stimmt, nur leider gibt es manche - fuer mich sicherlich interessante -
> Ausgaben nicht mher (vergriffen).
> Ich habe auuch am Donnerstag per eMail welche nachbestellt und darum
gebeten
> mir z.B. den Artikel "Internet..." Teil 1 ggf. per Mail oder Kopie zu
> schicken, denn wenn es den eh nicht mehr gibt, so wird der Autor oder die
> Redaktion das Teil ja wohl noch haben, oder?
>
> Ansonsten finde ich die aktuelle NEXTTOYOU-Ausgabe sehr interessant und
> wenigstens meine SB AWE64-Problem konnte ich dadurch loesen, das ich in der
> Konfiguration einen anderen Erlkennungscode eingegeben habe. Thx!
Hi!
Es gibt noch ALLE Ausgaben nachzubestellen!
Gruss, Gerald
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Newbie-Fragen :-(
Date: 13 Apr 1998 08:48:38 GMT
Organization: DX-Team - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Moinsen!
In <6gr7ks$j4f@mimi.stepman.com> Gerald Erdmann wrote:
>
> Es gibt noch ALLE Ausgaben nachzubestellen!
>
So?
Da steht aber auf der NeXTTOYOU-Site etwas anderes bei aelteren Ausgaben...
Naja, dann werde ich die 3/95 eben zu den 5 oder 6 die ich bestellt habe auch
noch versuchen nachzubestellen :-)))
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: 7plus-Codierung fuer NeXT irgendwo?
Date: 13 Apr 1998 09:12:01 GMT
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Moin! Frohe Ostern! Grosse Eierchens!
Mein Freund ist Amateurfunker und arbeitet seit Jahren (mehr als 10 IMHO) mit
einem AMIGA 2000B (und Vorgaengern :-)und wird dieses auch erst einmal weiter
tun. Bekannte und Funkerkollegen arbeiten u.a. auf AMIGA oder auch auf LINUX-
und ggf. OS/2-Gurken.
Sie benutzen dort "7PLUS" als Codierungsprogramm und dieses gibt es seines
Wissens auch fuer Unix(e), jedoch weiss jemand ob das schon mal fuer NeXT
rumlag/rumliegt? (auf tu-berlin is nix)
Wenn JA:
Bitte um Quelle!
Wenn NEIN:
Mal angenommen ich bekomme den Source-Code...ist der denn mirnixdirnix auf
unser Unix uebertragbar (makefile und fertig) - oder denke ich wieder zu
naiv? Immerhin rennt der Kram ja auch auf ner Unix-Schuessel....?!
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: 7plus-Codierung fuer NeXT irgendwo?
Date: 13 Apr 1998 12:41:28 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
: Moin! Frohe Ostern! Grosse Eierchens!
Danke.
[es geht um 7plus]
Nicht verzagen, archie fragen:
ftp://ftp.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de/pub/amiga/mpearls4/pearls/ham/7plus/unix
: Wenn NEIN:
: Mal angenommen ich bekomme den Source-Code...ist der denn mirnixdirnix auf
: unser Unix uebertragbar (makefile und fertig) - oder denke ich wieder zu
: naiv? Immerhin rennt der Kram ja auch auf ner Unix-Schuessel....?!
Es kompiliert nur nach ein paar Handzerhackungen.
Axel
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Subject: sendmail liefert nur an user uucp
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Seit der Umstellung auf 8.8.8 (beim Compilieren habe ich DNS
ausgeschlossen), liefert mein sendmail nur noch an den user uucp aus
(d.h. alle Mails fuer meinen host landen in /usr/spool/mail/uucp).
Irgendwo hakts. Ich verwende TaylorUUCP, outbound funzt auch
alles. Interessanterweise meldet /usr/lib/sendmail -bt -d0.4 mit FQD
als UUCP name, was aber auch falsch ist. Wo holt sendmail das her?
Weiss jemand Rat? Ansonsten bitte ich um Nachsicht, wenn diese Frage
demnaechst in comp.sys.next.sysadmin auftaucht.
Markus Gloede
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From: th.hensel@meteo-graphics.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: NextStep, OpenStep, Rhapsody GUI-Entwickler(in)
Date: 14 Apr 1998 07:38:35 GMT
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Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren !
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From: "Oliver Schirrmeister" <oschirr@abm.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NextStep 3.3 als Novel Client
Date: 14 Apr 1998 08:24:49 GMT
Organization: Nacamar Data Communications
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Hallo,
ich habe unter Nextstep 3.3 versucht, Dateien eines Novel-Servers
anzuzeigen.
Nach Start des NetwareManagers und reboot, waren tatsaechlich im
Net/Netware
Verzeichnis die Novel-Server zu sehen. Der Versuch, sich einzuloggen
scheiterte
allerdings. Username und Passwort waren korrekt, auch die Gruppe EVERYONE
stimmte.
Was geht da schief? NovelNetware hat die Version 5.1. NextStep unterstuetzt
netware386
Version 3.1 oder hoeher. Kann es sein, dass ich eine aktuellere Version
brauche?
Oliver
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From: gdauen@kater.cosy.sbg.ac.at.cosy.sbg.ac.at (Gerd Dauenhauer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: EOF & Oracle
Date: 14 Apr 1998 12:07:45 GMT
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Tag!
Neulich wollte ich mal ausprobieren, wie denn das so funktioniert mit EOF.
Also: DBModeler.app gestartet, neues Modell erstellen gewählt -> Oracle
Login-Panel wird angezeigt.
Was nun? Was bedeuten die einzelnen Eingabefelder?
Name und Paßwort sind wohl die von Oracle (z.B. scott/tiger), Hostname ist
wohl der Rechnername (DNS), was aber ist die Server-ID? (sowas wie aus
"tnsnames.ora"?)
Hat jemand von euch Rat? Sehe ich die offensichtliche Lösung nicht?
Client: OPENSTEP 4.1 + EOF
Server: Windows-NT4.0 + Oracle 8
Bis dann,
Gerd
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From: scholzb@NOSPAM.peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Canon-Treiber f. NeXT (es gibt sie!)
Date: 14 Apr 1998 22:56:47 GMT
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jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) wrote:
>> Der Argentinier ist bestimmt Federico Heinz, also heisst die Software
>> Dots.app. Sollte auf ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de als Demo irgendwo rumliegen.
>
>Mag sein, nur eine Suchfunktion wie auf peanuts gibt es nach meinem bisher
>bescheidenen Wissen wohl leider nicht?
>Ein Demo-Verzeichnis habe ich bisher nicht gefunden, aber ich werde mir wohl
>mal die index-Datei saugen und alles brav durchackern :)
>
Danke für den Tip mit der Suchfunktion! Mir ist bis heute nicht
aufgefallen, daß unsere Suchfunktion bei Peanuts daß NEXTSTEP/Commercial
Verzeichnis ignoriert. Jetzt funzt es.
Nebenbei: Mir persönlich gefällt JetPilot wesentlich besser als Dots.
Dein Bubble Jet wird natürlich unterstützt. Also eins ist sicher:
beim hochqualitativen Grafikdruck ist es wesentlich besser.
Kannst ja mal die Peanuts Suche verwenden: er findet nun auch
Dots und JetPilot :)
Viele Grüße,
Bernhard.
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Canon-Treiber f. NeXT (es gibt sie!)
Date: 15 Apr 1998 04:18:13 GMT
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Moin!
In <6h0pjf$637$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM
wrote:
> jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) wrote:
> >> Der Argentinier ist bestimmt Federico Heinz, also heisst die Software
> >> Dots.app. Sollte auf ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de als Demo irgendwo rumliegen.
Es ist der Agentinier, nur bin ich gespannt, was der Treiber kosten soll.....
> Danke für den Tip mit der Suchfunktion! Mir ist bis heute nicht
> aufgefallen, daß unsere Suchfunktion bei Peanuts daß NEXTSTEP/Commercial
> Verzeichnis ignoriert. Jetzt funzt es.
Schick :-)
> Nebenbei: Mir persönlich gefällt JetPilot wesentlich besser als Dots.
> Dein Bubble Jet wird natürlich unterstützt. Also eins ist sicher:
> beim hochqualitativen Grafikdruck ist es wesentlich besser.
Ich werde ihn mir mal ansehen....auch um einen Preisvergleich zu haben...
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:57:26 +0200
From: Andreas Moster <Andreas.Moster@REMOVE_THIS_swol.de>
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To: Gerd Dauenhauer <gdauen@kater.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
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Gerd Dauenhauer wrote:
> Neulich wollte ich mal ausprobieren, wie denn das so funktioniert mit EOF.
>
> Also: DBModeler.app gestartet, neues Modell erstellen gewählt -> Oracle
> Login-Panel wird angezeigt.
>
Ich hoffe, daß das ein Versprecher ist: DBModeler ist ja uralt :-) Du hast
hoffentlich den EOModeler genommen.
> Was nun? Was bedeuten die einzelnen Eingabefelder?
> Name und Paßwort sind wohl die von Oracle (z.B. scott/tiger), Hostname ist
> wohl der Rechnername (DNS), was aber ist die Server-ID? (sowas wie aus
> "tnsnames.ora"?)
>
> Hat jemand von euch Rat? Sehe ich die offensichtliche Lösung nicht?
>
> Client: OPENSTEP 4.1 + EOF
> Server: Windows-NT4.0 + Oracle 8
Richtig Name+PW ist sowas wie scott/tiger. Die ServerID ist unter NT(als
Client) das was man mit dem SQLNetEasyConfig(ich glaube es heißt so)
einstellt. Es ist die Kombination aus IP Adresse des Servers und der Instanz.
Das heißt, zum Bsp. vergibst Du "MyOrcl" als ServerID dann spricht das wohl
den Oracle Server und die ORCL Instanz an. Ich glaube Du kannst aber einfach
mal die IP Adresse oder den DNS Namen des ORA Servers angeben, das müßte auch
gehen, dann nimmt er automatisch die orcl Instanz.Wenn Du auf dem Server noch
ein Openstep laufen hast und ein EOModeler, dann kannst Du zum Ausprobieren
die ServerID auch weglassen.
Gruß,
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From: uzs8n8@uni-bonn.de (Konstantin Wiesel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: AucTex mit NextEmacs?
Date: 15 Apr 1998 09:22:57 GMT
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Hallo, benutzt jemand diese Kombination und kann mir
sagen wie er es geschafft hat AucTex fuer NextEmacs
zu compilieren?
From: wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Usergroup
Date: 15 Apr 1998 10:03:57 GMT
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: Steve, lass uns nicht im Stich und lass Schalter einbauen, die es
: ermoeglichen eine NeXT mit n bischen Apple zu sehen!!!
: Erfolg hat nur der, der etwas riskiert - und bei NeXT-Look&Feel riskiert man
: nichts :-)
: --
: Joerg Sievers
: 22143 Hamburg, Germany
Leute, wie waers denn dann, wenn man eine Art User(Buerger)initiative
starten wuerde. Bei ein paar tausend(?) Leuten, die den alten WM wollen,
sollte Apple doch dazu zu bewegen sein, diesen alternativ anzubieten
(und sei es nur wie in der RDR1) oder vielleicht sogar den Code freizugeben
(wers glaubt).
Ausserdem: Ein Bekannter von mir (eingefleischter Apple User: "was bitte ist
eine Shell?") gefaellt das NeXTish Look&Feel seitdem ich's ihm gezeigt hab
auch viel besser (auf zum missionieren).
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: miro crystal 32S: power saving / APM ?
Date: 15 Apr 1998 12:28:47 GMT
Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center
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hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.uunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
> Mein neuer 19" Monitor (übrigens ein *hervorragender* Kompromiß zwischen
> 17" und 21" - sehr zu empfehlen!) kann DPMS in vielerlei Stufen.
> Leider ist es mir bisher nicht gelungen, trotz aller APM Einstellungen
> in NS (4.2), BIOS (ASUS P90/TP4) etc. den gwünschten Effekt einer
> Monitor-standby-Schaltung hinzubekommen. Nur 'blank screen' reicht
> offenbar nicht aus, da noch V/H sync anliegen. Ich möchte, daß nach
> x Minuten Inaktivität BackSpace (z.B.) in Aktion tritt und den Monitor
> schlafen schickt. Die Grafikkarte (Jahrgang '93-'94) kann m.W. nach
> kein DPMS. Weiß jemand, ob und wie das funktioniert? (Uli?)
Hm, wenn die Grafikkarte DPMS nicht unterstüzt, gar nicht... Nur, meiner
Erinnerung nach tut die Miro das (kann mich aber auch täuschen, ist lange
her, daß ich sie hatte); dann müßte, sobald das BIOS in den Suspend-Mode
geschaltet hat, auch der Monitor ausgehen.
Hast Du denn auf Deinem Mainboard die Möglichkeit, entweder das Board gezielt
in den Suspend-Mode zu versetzen (SMI-Switch) oder aber den Status angezeigt
zu bekommen (Green-LED)? So könntest Du erzwingen/kontrollieren, daß/ob das
*Board* in den Suspend Mode geht. Wenn es das tut und die Karte den Monitor
dann immer noch nicht zum Abschalten bvewegt, ja dannŽ
Tschau
Uli
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: popover.app: Nachrichten werden nicht vom Server gel?scht
Date: 15 Apr 1998 12:30:31 GMT
Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center
Message-ID: <6h2997$l4@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <6gl5gf$uv7$1@news.vossnet.de> <6gleru$kup$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <6gn9m3$72o$1@news.vossnet.de> <6gnde9$5ka$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <6gpp9m$lap$3@news.vossnet.de> <6gqd1h$dpd$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Das POP-Protokoll spezifiziert, dass DEL nur zum Loeschen markiert,
> und ein anstaendiges QUIT sollte die Loeschung dann ausfuehren. Fehlt das
> QUIT (d.h. wird die Verbindung einfach so terminiert, weil beispielsweise
> der Client abraucht), werden die DELs nicht ausgefuehrt.
Intuitiv ist das aus GUI-Sicht freilich nicht gerade...
Tschau
Uli
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: python für next3.3
Date: 15 Apr 1998 12:31:55 GMT
Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center
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a2663376@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Markus Vollmert) wrote:
> hat hier irgend jemand schon mal python für next compiliert?
Liegt auf dem NEXTTOYOU-Server
(ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU) im Verzeichnis für die
Ausgabe 4/97
Tschau
Uli
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Eagle Linux auf NeXT (schwarz)?
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:28:44 +0200
Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin
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Hat jemand schonmal versucht, die Eagle Linux-Distribution auf schwarzem
NeXT laufen zu lassen?
(http://www.suse.de/software/eagle/eagle.html)
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From: Ingo Rose <beldam@teuto.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Suche bebrauchten cube !
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:49:43 +0200
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suche gebrauchten cube !
angebote bitte per mail !
From: paragram@gmx.net (Florian Cramer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Eagle Linux auf NeXT (schwarz)?
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:45:02 +0100
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Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Hat jemand schonmal versucht, die Eagle Linux-Distribution auf schwarzem
> NeXT laufen zu lassen?
> (http://www.suse.de/software/eagle/eagle.html)
Diese Werbung ist unseriöser Humbug. 68k-Linux läuft nicht einmal auf
der Hälfte der Rechner, die auf dieser Seite angegeben sind. Es gibt
hierzu eindeutige Statements von den Entwicklern des 68k-Linux und - von
meiner Seite aus - auch eine Mail an SuSE, die bislang noch nicht
beantwortet wurde.
Florian
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
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Subject: Re: Usergroup
Date: 16 Apr 1998 03:26:23 GMT
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Hi!
In <6h20md$s85$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Richard Woeber wrote:
> Leute, wie waers denn dann, wenn man eine Art User(Buerger)initiative
> starten wuerde. Bei ein paar tausend(?) Leuten, die den alten WM wollen,
> sollte Apple doch dazu zu bewegen sein, diesen alternativ anzubieten
> (und sei es nur wie in der RDR1) oder vielleicht sogar den Code freizugeben
> (wers glaubt).
Hehehe, naja Apple wird sicherlich noch einen Brief von mir bekommen, denn
der Typ war einfach scheisse drauf und was meinst Du was passiert, wenn die
"normalen" Apfleuser zum ersten Mal mit MACH in Beruehrung kommen.....dann
kann es schon sein, das diese Area nicht mehr so schoen ruhig ist und sich
alle paar Jahre mal ein Dummuser à la me mal blicken laesst.....
Ich schaue mir halt die DR2 an und wenn da kein "Where do you want to go in
future"-Button (w.h. mach ma NeXT an) vorhanden ist, dann "setzt es was"
:-)))
> Ausserdem: Ein Bekannter von mir (eingefleischter Apple User: "was bitte
ist
> eine Shell?")
GENAU diese Fragen werden dann loshageln ...
"Ich wuerde meinem Kind lieber Drogen als DOS kaufen" (Scott McNeally, SUN
Microsystems)
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: FidoNet unter NeXTStep 3.3
Date: 16 Apr 1998 05:46:06 GMT
Organization: DX-Team - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Halloele NeXTler!
Ich wuerde gerne FIDONet auch ueber NeXTStep abwickeln, jedoch bin ich mir
nicht sicher, ob es ueberhaupt etwas dafuer gibt. Fuer LINUX gibt es was und
daher hoffe ich natuerlich, das sich das evtl. jemand schon einmal angesehen
hat?!
Fuer Tips/Quellen waere ich dankbar.
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From: wrbaumann@t-online.de (Wolfram Bauman)
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Subject: Re: AucTex mit NextEmacs?
Date: 16 Apr 1998 06:06:32 GMT
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In <6h1u9h$vp8@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Konstantin Wiesel wrote:
> Hallo, benutzt jemand diese Kombination und kann mir
> sagen wie er es geschafft hat AucTex fuer NextEmacs
> zu compilieren?
>
>
Also ich benutze NextEmacs auf Basis von Emacs 19.34 und AucTeX lies sich mit
Hilfe des
zugehoerigen Makefiles einfach in das bestehende Emacs installieren.
In /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/tex-site.el habe ich noch einige "site"
abhaemgige Aendereungen durchgefuehrt., wie zum Beispiel Druckernamen und
Aufruf von TeXView.
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
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Subject: Re: FidoNet unter NeXTStep 3.3
Date: 16 Apr 1998 10:51:49 GMT
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jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) wrote:
> Ich wuerde gerne FIDONet auch ueber NeXTStep abwickeln, jedoch bin ich mir
> nicht sicher, ob es ueberhaupt etwas dafuer gibt.
Meines Wissens nicht. Fürs Mausnetz gab es mal was, aber das ist laaang her.
Die NeXT-Community ist halt im Internet. Welchen Sinn hat heutzutage sowas
wie FIDO eigentlich noch? (Zumal es viele FIDO-Gruppen ja auch im Internet
gibt.)
Tschau
Uli
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From: Markus Urban <urban@uke.uni-hamburg.de>
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Subject: S: NeXTStep 3.3 fuer HP 712/60
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:16:53 +0200
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Hi,
ich hab noch so ne alte HP-Workstation bei mir stehen und moechte da
gerne NeXTStep 3.3 drauf installieren. Leider kann man das nirgends mehr
kaufen.
Deshalb meine Frage: Hat irgend jemand noch ne Version fuer HP liegen
oder kann mir sagen wo ich sowas herbekommen kann?
Many Thanx
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Problem mit 'opendiff' unter OS4.2/Mach
Message-ID: <1998Apr16.231009.15687@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:10:09 GMT
Hallo,
unter NEXTSTEP 3.3 ging 'opendiff file1 file2' problemlos; unter 4.2 gibt's
immer ein "opendiff[15665] Couldn't connect to FileMerge".
Woran liegt's? Wer weiss Rat?
TIA,
Ingmar
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
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Subject: NEXTTOYOUR (war: Re: Newbie-Fragen :-()
Date: 17 Apr 1998 07:42:31 GMT
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Gerald Erdmann (gerald@stepman.com) wrote:
: [...]
: Hi!
:
: Es gibt noch ALLE Ausgaben nachzubestellen!
Die NEXTTOYOU ist (meiner Meinung nach wirklich) lesenswert und
preiswert (also ihren Preis wert!).
Eine Idee (auch wegen der Nachbestellungen): Wie waere es mit
einer CD mit den WiNG/NEXTTOYOU Ausgaben - die Artikel liegen
doch sicherlich elektronisch vor, oder?
Ich weiss, der Stab ist nicht gross, aber wenn man das erst
einmal vernuenftig organisiert hat, vielleicht einen Sponsor
(Apple?) dafuer findet und dann fortsetzt, wird sich der Aufwand
wohl lohnen (s. c't, iX, DDJ, C/C++UJ, Byte etc. (ich weiss, die
sind alle groesser :-), aber der Vorteil: Nie wieder (Papier)
kopieren!)
:
: Gruss, Gerald
Gruesse,
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: FidoNet unter NeXTStep 3.3
Date: 17 Apr 1998 18:18:06 GMT
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Moin!
In <6h4ns5$jk@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
> jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) wrote:
> > Ich wuerde gerne FIDONet auch ueber NeXTStep abwickeln, jedoch bin ich
mir
> > nicht sicher, ob es ueberhaupt etwas dafuer gibt.
> Die NeXT-Community ist halt im Internet. Welchen Sinn hat heutzutage sowas
> wie FIDO eigentlich noch? (Zumal es viele FIDO-Gruppen ja auch im Internet
> gibt.)
Meine persoenliche Ansicht dazu:
Das was Internet-Juenger nie begreifen werden: Im FidoNet kann man DIREKT
eine Mail ans andere der Welt befoerdern oder von dort Nachrichten/Files
abrufen. Ueber 30.000 Einwahlpunkte und jede/r kann eine Mail von dort aus
per "Schneeballprinzip" ans andere Ende der Welt fuer wenich bis gar nich
Muecken schicken!
Die FIDO-Echos (=> Internet = NEWS) sind zwar ganz schnuckelig, machen aber
nicht den Spass am Fido aus, sondern das "Familienleben" innerhalb des
Netzes/HUB-Bereiches/Mailbox...
Ich bin urspruenglich Z-NETZ-Sysop, dann FIDO-Sysop gewesen und nun "im
Ruhestand" (7 Jahre reichen IMHO), aber als Point moechte ich mein Dasein
weiter froenen, jedoch am liebsten unter der NeXT...
Wenn das nicht geht, naja, dann muss halt meine OS/2-Schuessel herhalten :-)
Aber: Ihr verpasst was ohne FIDO <g>
BTW:
Im Innernett war es NETT als es noch nicht kommerzialisiert verhoeckert
wurde....mitlerweile ist es oft unwitziger als frueher mit S/W-Moni und
TTY-Emulation :(
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Lohnt RAM-Aufstockung bei TC und OS4.2?
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:03:02 GMT
Hallo,
lohnt es sich unter OPENSTEP 4.2, den Speicher einer ADB-NeXTstation
(TurboColor) von 64 auf 96 MB aufzustocken? D.h. bringt das einen
spuerbaren Geschwindigkeitszuwachs? Ich frage, weil eine Bekannte von
mir neulich enttaeuscht war, wie wenig sie von den dann 96 MB anstelle
von 64 MB unter NEXTSTEP 3.3 merkte. Einziger Unterschied bei 3.3 nach
ihrere Aussage: Die Kiste swappt etwas spaeter...
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: FidoNet unter NeXTStep 3.3
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:08:07 GMT
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In <6h86cu$mqd$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
> Das was Internet-Juenger nie begreifen werden: Im FidoNet kann man DIREKT
> eine Mail ans andere der Welt befoerdern
Toll, das haut mich wirklich um. Was die moderne Datenverarbeitung so alles
kann.
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Microsystems)
From: weber@informatik.uni-kl.de (Gunther Weber AG Hagen)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: Sybase SQL Server 10er Lizenz
Date: 18 Apr 1998 11:43:45 +0200
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Hallo,
ich suche eine 10er Lizenz fuer den Sybase SQL Server, die unter
NEXTSTEP 3.3 laufen sollte. Ausserdem suche ich unbabhaengig davon
jemanden, der sich damit auskennt und den ich mit Fragen loechern
kann :-)
Danke
Gunther Weber
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
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Subject: Re: FidoNet unter NeXTStep 3.3
Date: 18 Apr 1998 15:27:48 GMT
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Hi!
In <1998Apr17.200807.1526@gamelan.okay.net> Thomas F. Unke wrote:
> In <6h86cu$mqd$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
>
> > Das was Internet-Juenger nie begreifen werden: Im FidoNet kann man DIREKT
> > eine Mail ans andere der Welt befoerdern
>
> Toll, das haut mich wirklich um. Was die moderne Datenverarbeitung so
alles
> kann.
Du hast den Hintergedanken und das daraus resultierende wohl kaum
abgeschaetzt, denn im Internet bin ich von Provider A oder B abhaengig, muss
mich auf Leute verlassen, auf die ich mich vielleicht besser nicht verlassen
sollte...
...im Fido mache ich mir meine "Infrastruktur" ggf. selbst, indem ich das,
was ich haben will bei denen abhole, wo ich das will.
Im Internet streut man Werbemails unter pseudonamen ein.
... im Fido ist Realname seit Bestehen Pflicht und gerade mal Gaeste
koennten bei falscher Konfiguration soetwas verursachen.
Fido ist ein Amateurmailboxnetzwerk und hat mit Kommerz recht wenig zu tun -
aehnlich im PacketRadio - und daher gefaellt es mir an vielen Stellen eben
besser.
Auch der lokale Bezug zu seinen Sysops ist mir lieber als dieses anonyme
Internetgebrowse /-surfe /-irce....
Alleine der Name "Browsen" erzeugt in mir unweigerlich den Drang den
WWW-"Browser" zu loeschen, denn nichts ist so scheisse wie das Web - jeder
macht was er will, keiner haelt sich an irgendetwas und wenn Du nicht Browser
x hast, dann hast Du das p auf der Stirn....
Fido mag alt und wackelig sein, interaktiv und langsam, aber es gibt den
Fido-Standard und der funzt so ziemlich auf der ganzen Welt bei mehr als
30.000 Systemen - DAS finde ich gut!
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: Re: NEXTTOYOUR (war: Re: Newbie-Fragen :-()
Date: 18 Apr 1998 17:28:30 GMT
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In <6h7157$eo81@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> H.-R. Oberhage wrote:
> Gerald Erdmann (gerald@stepman.com) wrote:
> : [...]
> : Hi!
> :
> : Es gibt noch ALLE Ausgaben nachzubestellen!
> Die NEXTTOYOU ist (meiner Meinung nach wirklich) lesenswert und
> preiswert (also ihren Preis wert!).
> Eine Idee (auch wegen der Nachbestellungen): Wie waere es mit
> einer CD mit den WiNG/NEXTTOYOU Ausgaben - die Artikel liegen
> doch sicherlich elektronisch vor, oder?
>
> Ich weiss, der Stab ist nicht gross, aber wenn man das erst
> einmal vernuenftig organisiert hat, vielleicht einen Sponsor
> (Apple?) dafuer findet und dann fortsetzt, wird sich der Aufwand
> wohl lohnen (s. c't, iX, DDJ, C/C++UJ, Byte etc. (ich weiss, die
> sind alle groesser :-), aber der Vorteil: Nie wieder (Papier)
> kopieren!)
Hallo Rüdiger!
Im Prinzip hast Du schon recht, nur macht sowas einen gewissen Arbeitsaufwand
und wir brauchen jede Minute für die nächste Ausgabe. :-) Zum anderen liegen
die meisten Ausgaben noch im Original vor. Da wir für deren Druck ja bereits
bezahlt haben, wollen wir natürlich lieber die gedruckte Variante vertreiben,
als uns selbst "Konkurrenz" zu machen. :-)
Ansonsten ist das Thema CD-ROM durchaus im Gespräch ...
Gruß, Gerald
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Subject: Re: Eagle Linux auf NeXT (schwarz)?
Date: 19 Apr 1998 00:20:07 +0100
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Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> meinte:
>Hat jemand schonmal versucht, die Eagle Linux-Distribution auf schwarzem
>NeXT laufen zu lassen?
Hast Du etwa noch Zugriff auf schwarze Hardware?
Tschö
Töns
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
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Subject: sendmail.cf und mehrere SMTPs
Date: 19 Apr 1998 09:19:50 GMT
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Moin!
kann man in sendmail.cf einfach mehrere smtp-Uplinks reinsetzen oder gibt das
dann probleme?
Ich wuerde gerne, das meine Freundin auf ihren SMTP-Server, ich jedoch auf
meinen zugreifen kann - wie legt man sendmail darauf fest, das User A (lokal)
auf smtp A und User B (lokal) auf smtp B die Mails verschicken soll?
Hoffe, das ist endlich mal keine "Newbie-Frage" :)))
P.S.: Warte sehnsuechtig auf die NeXTToYou-Ausgaben......
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: FidoNet unter NeXTStep 3.3
Date: 19 Apr 1998 13:56:39 GMT
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In <6hagpk$dll$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
> Hi!
>
> In <1998Apr17.200807.1526@gamelan.okay.net> Thomas F. Unke wrote:
> > In <6h86cu$mqd$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
> >
> > > Das was Internet-Juenger nie begreifen werden: Im FidoNet kann man
DIREKT
> > > eine Mail ans andere der Welt befoerdern
> >
> > Toll, das haut mich wirklich um. Was die moderne Datenverarbeitung so
> alles
> > kann.
>
> Du hast den Hintergedanken und das daraus resultierende wohl kaum
> abgeschaetzt, denn im Internet bin ich von Provider A oder B abhaengig,
muss
> mich auf Leute verlassen, auf die ich mich vielleicht besser nicht
verlassen
> sollte...
>
> ...im Fido mache ich mir meine "Infrastruktur" ggf. selbst, indem ich das,
> was ich haben will bei denen abhole, wo ich das will.
Kannst Du theoretisch auch im Internet machen. Du kannst Du 150 Leute
weltweit anrufen, um Deine Daten zusammenzusammen. Klarer Vorteil ...
(kratz).
> Im Internet streut man Werbemails unter pseudonamen ein.
>
> ... im Fido ist Realname seit Bestehen Pflicht und gerade mal Gaeste
> koennten bei falscher Konfiguration soetwas verursachen.
Im Internet eigentlich auch. :-| Würde Fido ähnlich wie das Internet wachsen,
hättest Du die gleichen Probleme.
> Alleine der Name "Browsen" erzeugt in mir unweigerlich den Drang den
> WWW-"Browser" zu loeschen, denn nichts ist so scheisse wie das Web - jeder
> macht was er will, keiner haelt sich an irgendetwas und wenn Du nicht
Browser
> x hast, dann hast Du das p auf der Stirn....
Das hat aber nichts mit dem Internet zu tun. Das ist eine Sache der Leute,
die das Internet nutzen.
> Fido mag alt und wackelig sein, interaktiv und langsam, aber es gibt den
> Fido-Standard und der funzt so ziemlich auf der ganzen Welt bei mehr als
> 30.000 Systemen - DAS finde ich gut!
Ich finde es gut, mit 30 Mio. Leuten zu kommunizieren, nicht mit 30.000. :-)
Jeder wie er will.
Gerald
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From: heller@altoetting-online.de
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Subject: Re: Lighthouse Distiller 2.0 ??
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 05:10:07 GMT
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In article <armin-ya023180001004981748330001@news.messe.de>
armin@devicen.de (Armin Retzko) writes:
> Aber mich wuerde trotzdem interessieren, ob jemand den
LighthouseDistiller
> zum laufen und zum "Distillen" ueberedet hat. Wie gesagt, bei mir
(NS3.0,
> OS4.2 Moto) funktioniert er nicht.
Also ich hab's nach der Namens nderung grad an einem ASCII-Text
(Deinem Posting ;-) ausprobiert und es hat geklappt! Einfach print
w hlen>save>format pdf.
Hier ist das PDF file als Beweis: (sind nur 5kB).
Servus,
Helmut
P.S.: Bin gespannt, ob ich jetzt gegrillt werde, weil ich ein
NewsGrazer RichText posting gemacht habe.....aber das ist doch
schlie lich eine NeXT group, oder??
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M7`I<"BTM7`I397)V=7,L($AE;&UU="`@*$1(,$U!1"D@("!?7U]?7U]?7U]?
M7U]?7TYE6%0M;6%I;"!A8V-E<'1E9%]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]<"E!H;VYE
M.B`K-#DM.#8W,2TX.#$V-C4@("`@(")+;F]W;&5D9V4@;75S="!B92!G871H
M97)E9"!A;F0@8V%N;F]T(&)E(&=I=F5N(EP*:&5L;&5R0&%L=&]E='1I;F<M
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M2T53-UP*1D%8.B`@("LT.2TX-C<Q+3@X,38V-2`@("`@+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM
M+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM7`I$<BX@2&5L
M;75T($AE;&QE<BP@375E:&QD;W)F97(@4W1R+B`W,BP@.#0U,#,@06QT;V5T
2=&EN9RP@1T5234%.65P*"GT*
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From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: sendmail.cf und mehrere SMTPs
Date: 20 Apr 1998 05:03:29 GMT
Organization: Rainer at home
Message-ID: <slrn6jllp1.8ai.rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de>
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
> Ich wuerde gerne, das meine Freundin auf ihren SMTP-Server, ich jedoch auf
> meinen zugreifen kann - wie legt man sendmail darauf fest, das User A (lokal)
> auf smtp A und User B (lokal) auf smtp B die Mails verschicken soll?
Der einzige Weg, der mir dazu einfällt, ist der, daß Deine Freundin bei
Mail.app in den Expertenpräferenzen als MTA '/usr/lib/sendmail
-Calternate_sendmail.cf" angibt.
In alternate_sendmail.cf steht dann eben host B als mailrelay.
Sendmail wird dann allerdings nicht mehr als root laufen; keine Ahnung,
welche Auswirkungen das hat. Nötigenfalls ist sendmail deshalb anzupassen
und neu zu übersetzen.
Gruß,
Rainer
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(Karl Valentin)
From: "Oliver Schirrmeister" <oschirr@abm.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Openstep Installation auf großer Festplatte
Date: 20 Apr 1998 08:09:46 GMT
Organization: Nacamar Data Communications
Message-ID: <01bd6c32$8aeeeac0$5151a2c2@wintel3>
Hallo,
kann mir jemand sagen, wie ich OpenStep auf einer 4.3 GB Festplatte
installieren
kann und dabei den ganzen Platz für OS verwende.
Bisher habe ich folgendes probiert:
1. Default OS Installation. Bei der Installation angegeben, daß der gesamte
Platz für OS verwendet werden soll. Resultat: OS meldete eine 27 MB
Festplatte: zu klein
2. Bei der Installation eine 2 GB Partition eingerichtet, OS installiert
und
anschließend versucht, den Rest der Platte zu partitionieren. Ist mir
nicht
gelungen, da eine Partition der Platte schon gemountet war (klar da war
OS drauf installiert). Gibt es andere tools außer disk, mit denen man
die
Platte partitionieren / formatieren kann?
3. Auf der Platte mit Linux 3 NextStep Partitionen erzeugt, anschließend OS
auf der ersten Partition installiert. Die zwei weiteren Partitionen
konnten
nicht formatiert werden (so such device or adress), obwohl fdisk 3
Partitionen
anzeigt. Warum?
4. Auf einem NextStep Rechner mit disk die Platte partitioniert. Bei der
Installation
von OS auf dieser Platte wurden jedoch die Partitionen nicht erkannt.
Die einzige Möglichkeit, die ich jetzt noch sehe, ist auf meinem NextStep
Rechner
OS zu installieren, dort die Platte des anderen Rechners einzubauen und zu
partitionieren. Anschließend irgendwie OS 'rüberzudumpen', Platte ausbauen
und
wieder NextStep installieren.
Aber das kann doch wohl nicht der richtige Weg sein.
Oliver
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Lighthouse Distiller 2.0 ??
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:15:40 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
Message-ID: <353B3C6A.19D68212@lavielle.com>
References: <armin-ya023180001004981748330001@news.messe.de> <ErnACv.BBG@heller.altoetting-online.de>
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heller@altoetting-online.de wrote:
> In article <armin-ya023180001004981748330001@news.messe.de>
> armin@devicen.de (Armin Retzko) writes:
> > Aber mich wuerde trotzdem interessieren, ob jemand den
> LighthouseDistiller
> > zum laufen und zum "Distillen" ueberedet hat. Wie gesagt, bei mir
> (NS3.0,
> > OS4.2 Moto) funktioniert er nicht.
>
Klar, funktioniert prima und selbst Images werden anscheinend
vernuenftig konvertiert!
Bei mir laeuft der LighthouseDistiller unter NS 3.3 auf schwarzer
Hardware bis dato
ohne Probleme.
Gruss VKyr
--
Valentino Kyriakides
Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co. Tel.: +49(0)40 / 65 80 8 - 997
Lotharstrasse 2b, D-22041 Hamburg, Germany Fax.: +49(0)40 / 65 808-202
http://www.lavielle.com/ mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com
From: jut@ukrv.de (Jens-Uwe Thieme)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Lohnt RAM-Aufstockung bei TC und OS4.2?
Date: 20 Apr 1998 12:33:37 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6hffb1$i79$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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In <1998Apr17.200302.26836@aurora.in-berlin.de> Ingmar Camphausen wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> lohnt es sich unter OPENSTEP 4.2, den Speicher einer ADB-NeXTstation
> (TurboColor) von 64 auf 96 MB aufzustocken? D.h. bringt das einen
> spuerbaren Geschwindigkeitszuwachs? Ich frage, weil eine Bekannte von
> mir neulich enttaeuscht war, wie wenig sie von den dann 96 MB anstelle
> von 64 MB unter NEXTSTEP 3.3 merkte. Einziger Unterschied bei 3.3 nach
> ihrere Aussage: Die Kiste swappt etwas spaeter...
>
Krasse Zuwaechse in der Geschwindigkeit bemerkst Du wohl nicht. Es sei denn
Du machst Bildverarbeitung oder aehnlich speicherfressende Sachen darauf
(z.B. auch Datenbanken mit grossen Indexen). Aber mehr Speicher ist nie
falsch
leider ist ja bei 128 MByte schon Schluss auf der Schwarzen ;-)
CIAO
JUT
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From: jut@ukrv.de (Jens-Uwe Thieme)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Openstep Installation auf =?ISO-8859-1?Q?gro=DFer?= Festplatte
Date: 20 Apr 1998 12:42:09 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6hffr1$i79$2@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Cc: oschirr@abm.de
In <01bd6c32$8aeeeac0$5151a2c2@wintel3> "Oliver Schirrmeister" wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> kann mir jemand sagen, wie ich OpenStep auf einer 4.3 GB Festplatte
> installieren
> kann und dabei den ganzen Platz für OS verwende.
> Die einzige Möglichkeit, die ich jetzt noch sehe, ist auf meinem NextStep
> Rechner
> OS zu installieren, dort die Platte des anderen Rechners einzubauen und zu
> partitionieren. Anschließend irgendwie OS 'rüberzudumpen', Platte ausbauen
> und
> wieder NextStep installieren.
> Aber das kann doch wohl nicht der richtige Weg sein.
>
> Oliver
>
>
So aehnlich schon :-(
Du kannst die Platte in 2 x 2 GByte und 1 x Rest teilen mit einem
Disktabeintrag
in folgender Art (Beispiel ist eine IBM DCAS-34330):
# IBM DCAS 34330 with three partitions
IBM DCAS-34330:\
:ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#8205:nt#6:ns#171:ss#512:rm#5400:\
:fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#2097152:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:\
:pb#2097152:sb#4194304:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#1:ob=space:\
:ib:tb=4.3BSD:\
:pc#6291456:sc#2175000:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#32:dc#4096:rc#1:oc=space:\
:ic:tc=4.3BSD:
Also von einer Platte mit installierten OS booten, "disk -i ..." auf die neue
Platte,
dann mounten der 1. Partition nach z.B. /mnt und ein
dump 0f - / | (cd /mnt; restore rf -)
absetzen. Mmmhh... wenn fertig Maschine runterfahren Platte umhaengen
hochfahren,
Plattencheck, geht.
CIAO
JUT
PS: Is not a bug, is a feature. :-)
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From: no.spam@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede)
Subject: NewsGrazer (was: Lighthouse Distiller 2.0 ??)
Message-ID: <no.spam-2004981546520001@topera.camelot.de>
Sender: news@burrow.camelot.de
Organization: moles unLTD
References: <armin-ya023180001004981748330001@news.messe.de> <ErnACv.BBG@heller.altoetting-online.de>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:46:52 GMT
Mail-Copies-To: always
In article <ErnACv.BBG@heller.altoetting-online.de>,
heller@altoetting-online.de wrote:
> P.S.: Bin gespannt, ob ich jetzt gegrillt werde, weil ich ein
> NewsGrazer RichText posting gemacht habe.....aber das ist doch
> schlie lich eine NeXT group, oder??
You asked for it.
<brutzel mode on>
> --
> Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail
> accepted________________
> Phone: +49-8671-881665 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot
> be given"
> heller@altoetting-online.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7
> FAX: +49-8671-881665
> ------------------------------------------------
> Dr. Helmut Heller, Muehldorfer Str. 72, 84503 Altoetting, GERMANY
>
>
> -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
> M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA
> M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT
> [etc.pp.]`
Mehrere Unhoeflichkeiten, die wohl hauptsaechlich zu Lasten von NewsGrazer
gehen:
- die Signature ist nicht durch "-- " abgetrennt
- die Zeilen sind zu lang
- das Attatchment ist weder uuencode- noch MIME-gemaess eingebunden
- mir scheinen die Umlaute, trotz Aussagen im Header, *nicht* ISO-8859-1 zu sein
Ansonsten:
Auch wenn dies eine NeXT-Gruppe ist, sollte man sich an den kleinsten
gemeinsamen Nenner halten (ok, richtiges 8bit ISO-8859-1 ist mittlerweile
akzeptabel). Man schickt ja auch nicht jedem, der NeXT-interessiert ist,
eine NeXT-Mail (wobei ich das v-card-Verwendern schon angedroht habe ;-).
NewsGrazer scheint mir ein Gegenbeispiel fuer das GNKSA (Good Netkeeping
Seal of Approval, http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/) zu sein.
Markus Gloede
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a followup, mailing a courtesy copy is appreciated, provided it
is clearly marked as such.
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NEXTTOYOUR (war: Re: Newbie-Fragen :-()
Date: 20 Apr 1998 13:38:37 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6hfj4t$ffa2@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6glf6k$55s$1@news.vossnet.de> <6goc0m$kjr@mimi.stepman.com>
Gerald Erdmann (gerald@stepman.com) wrote:
: [...]
: Ansonsten ist das Thema CD-ROM durchaus im Gespräch ...
Fein zu hoeren. Bitte mehr Info, sobald spruchreif.
:
: Gruß, Gerald
Danke, gleichfalls,
Ruediger
From: Benno Eierle <eierle@statik.bauwesen.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Mehr als 15 Fonts im PS-File??
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:53:15 +0200
Organization: TU-Muenchen
Distribution: world
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Hallo,
wie bekommt man OPENSTEP dazu, bei Drucken->Sichern
mit der Option "fuer ausgewaehlten Drucker einschl. Fonts"
(oder so aehnlich) mehr als 15 Fonts im Postscript-File
abzuspeichern??
Bei mir ist nach dem 14. oder 15. Font Schluss, auch wenn
das Dokument mehr Fonts enthaelt.
Ausserdem werden ueberhaupt nur Fonts abgespeichert, wenn
der NeXT-Laser eingestellt ist. Beim HP4M, fuer den ich
die Datei eigentlich abspeichern will, werden ueberhaupt
keine Fonts gespeichert (Es sind Fonts, die der HP garan-
tiert nicht eingebaut hat!).
Anmerkung: Ich benutze OPENSTEP 4.0 fuer Intel.
Waere toll, wenn mir jemand einen Tip geben koennte!
Schon mal vielen Dank fuer die Hilfe!
Benno
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Benno Eierle, e-mail: eierle@statik.bauwesen.tu-muenchen.de
Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Lehrstuhl fuer Statik
From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Dots...registrieren?
Date: 20 Apr 1998 18:56:53 GMT
Organization: DX-Team - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Hi!
Habe an den Autor von Dots.app eine Mail geschrieben, das ich Interesse an
enen Key fuer Canon-BJC-600 haette, jedoch kam bisher nichts zurueck. Gibt es
den noch? Kann man das Teil ggf. auch in Deutschland registrieren? Welche
Haendler machen denn noch etwas mit NeXT-Software ?
--
Joerg Sievers
22143 Hamburg, Germany
eMail: jogi2@vossnet.de (NeXTMail welcome!)
jsi@stardivision.de (StarOffice-Mail welcome!)
*DX-Team since 1988*
From: wmt16@rzserv2.fh-lueneburg.de (PHREAK)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S:OpenStep 4.2
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:12:30 +0200
Organization: UPi
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1d7t1ie.ljbh5k1kr7l3oN@[192.168.32.254]>
Hallo!
Ich bin auf der Suche nach OpenStep 4.2 User + Developer (F+L Version)!
Wo gibt es so etwas denn noch zu kaufen?
Falls jemand seine verkaufen moechte, bitte e-mail an mich!
- Markus
From: gap@stones.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Dots...registrieren?
Date: 20 Apr 1998 21:51:43 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6hgg1f$1o5$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
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jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Habe an den Autor von Dots.app eine Mail geschrieben, das ich Interesse an
>enen Key fuer Canon-BJC-600 haette, jedoch kam bisher nichts zurueck. Gibt
es
>den noch? Kann man das Teil ggf. auch in Deutschland registrieren? Welche
>Haendler machen denn noch etwas mit NeXT-Software ?
>
wuerde mich auch interessieren.
Habe vor Jahren einen Key fuer HP DeskJet erhalten, aber schon lange keinen
solchen Drucker mehr...
grisz-grisu
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: PrintExtensions-Bundle fuer OmniWeb 3.x?
Message-ID: <1998Apr20.233116.5495@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
Organization: INDIVIDUAL NETWORK Berlin
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:31:16 GMT
Hallo,
das PrintExtensions-Bundle fuer OmniWeb 2.x ist sehr nuetzlich. Gibt
es ein vergleichbares Bundle/"Plugin" auch schon fuer OmniWeb 3.0bx?
Gruss,
Ingmar
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From: Eberhard Wolff <ewolff@ponton.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: S:OpenStep 4.2
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:32:44 +0200
Organization: Ponton European Media Lab
Message-ID: <353C59AC.289DA5BD@ponton.de>
References: <1d7t1ie.ljbh5k1kr7l3oN@[192.168.32.254]>
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PHREAK wrote:
>
> Hallo!
>
> Ich bin auf der Suche nach OpenStep 4.2 User + Developer (F+L Version)!
> Wo gibt es so etwas denn noch zu kaufen?
> Falls jemand seine verkaufen moechte, bitte e-mail an mich!
>
> - Markus
Also, ich habe vor kurzem eine Lizenz bei
Academy
Kurfürstendamm 226
10719 Berlin
Tel: 030 / 883 30 57
FAX: 030 / 883 30 56
für 698.- DM zzgl. Porto gekauft. Hat ca. 1 Woche gedauert (weil
Apple wohl erst spät geliefert hat) und es war EOF dabei.
Eberhard
PS: Für eine F+L Lizenz reicht ein Studentenausweis.
--
It's not a question of where you want to go today,
but how you want to get there.
Eberhard Wolff Ponton
ewolff@ponton.de European Media Art Lab
From: jut@ukrv.de (Jens-Uwe Thieme)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Lohnt RAM-Aufstockung bei TC und OS4.2?
Date: 21 Apr 1998 08:32:54 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6hhljm$sc9$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <1998Apr17.200302.26836@aurora.in-berlin.de> <6hffb1$i79$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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In <1998Apr20.232235.5385@aurora.in-berlin.de> Ingmar Camphausen wrote:
> Faellt die Arbeit mit OmniWeb3.x auch unter "Bildverarbeitung"?? ;-)
>
> Gruss,
> Ingmar
Nein unter RAM-Verschwendung... :-)
CIAO
JUT
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- -
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From: hwr@pilhuhn.de (Heiko W.Rupp)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer (was: Lighthouse Distiller 2.0 ??)
Date: 21 Apr 1998 07:40:48 GMT
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Markus Gloede wrote:
|gemeinsamen Nenner halten (ok, richtiges 8bit ISO-8859-1 ist mittlerweile
|akzeptabel). Man schickt ja auch nicht jedem, der NeXT-interessiert ist,
Ist zwar akzeptabel, aber nicht der kleineste gemeinsame Nenner.
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From: matthias@:-)factum-gmbh.de (Matthias Schürhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: ASCII-Datei von Openstep NT zum Drucker?
Date: 21 Apr 1998 14:17:59 GMT
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Hallo allerseits,
gibt es eine Möglichkeit, von einer Openstep-Applikation unter Windows NT aus
eine zuvor geschriebene ASCII-Datei irgendwie an einen Drucker zu schicken?
Den Schritt, das Dateisymbol manuell per Maus auf den Drucker zu schieben,
möchte ich gerne umgehen.
Viele Grüße
Matthias
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From: stefan.boehringer_REMOVE_ME_@ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Openstep Installation auf großer Festplatte
Date: 21 Apr 1998 20:00:08 GMT
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>kann mir jemand sagen, wie ich OpenStep auf einer 4.3 GB Festplatte
>installieren
>kann und dabei den ganzen Platz für OS verwende.
>
>Bisher habe ich folgendes probiert:
>
>1. Default OS Installation. Bei der Installation angegeben, daß der gesamte
> Platz für OS verwendet werden soll. Resultat: OS meldete eine 27 MB
> Festplatte: zu klein
Ich vermute, dass Du eine SCSI-Platte verwendest - sonst dürftest Du nicht
soweit kommen...
[...]
>3. Auf der Platte mit Linux 3 NextStep Partitionen erzeugt, anschließend OS
> auf der ersten Partition installiert. Die zwei weiteren Partitionen
>konnten
> nicht formatiert werden (so such device or adress), obwohl fdisk 3
>Partitionen
> anzeigt. Warum?
NS/OS akzeptiert nur eine fdisk-Partition (type a7), und verwaltet diese
intern, d.h. es legt Next-Partitionen in der fdisk-Partition an.
>4. Auf einem NextStep Rechner mit disk die Platte partitioniert. Bei der
>Installation
> von OS auf dieser Platte wurden jedoch die Partitionen nicht erkannt.
>
>Die einzige Möglichkeit, die ich jetzt noch sehe, ist auf meinem NextStep
>Rechner
>OS zu installieren, dort die Platte des anderen Rechners einzubauen und zu
>partitionieren. Anschließend irgendwie OS 'rüberzudumpen', Platte ausbauen
[...]
Der beste Weg ist tatsächlich von einem anderen System aus zu Partitionieren
und ein System überzukopieren (BuildDisk oder ditto). Damit kann man sogar
grosse EIDE-Platten zur Mitarbeit überreden. Zum aleinigen Partitionieren
kannst Du allerdings die Platte auch extern an eine Blackbox anschließen
(next- und openstep disks unterscheiden sich nicht).
Ich empfehle allerdings eher von CD im single-user mode zu booten (mit den
Installationsdisketten, -s als kernel-flag angeben). Anschließend mit fdisk
*eine* nextstep partition anlegen und mit disk nach Wunsch partitionieren.
Anschließend den single-user mode verlassen (exit). Die Installation müsste
dann wunschgemäß ablaufen.
Alles Gute,
Stefan
From: Hans-Joachim Meyer <hjm@online-club.de>
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Subject: Re: your chance
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 23:30:44 +0200
Organization: RP-Online-Services
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Marco Richter wrote:
>
> COULD THIS BE TRUE??? People claim to make almost $50,000 in just 4 weeks.
> It may be hard to believe, but read on . . .
>
> (For $6 and 6 stamps, it might be worth a try)
>
Sind solche Schneeballsysteme in Deutschland nicht verboten.
Grüße
hjm
From: ux4evr@yahoo.com
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Subject: Disk formatieren mit disktab
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 00:40:09 -0600
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Hallo,
wie kann ich meine zweite Partition auf mein IDE Disk formatieren mit
disktab, ohne dass ich die folgene Meldung bekomme : "this partition is
allready mounted" ?
Ich habe nur eine Festplatte.
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From: "Oliver Schirrmeister" <oschirr@abm.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Disk formatieren mit disktab
Date: 22 Apr 1998 06:46:33 GMT
Organization: Nacamar Data Communications
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ux4evr@yahoo.com schrieb im Beitrag <6hjvrr$6d7$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> Hallo,
>
> wie kann ich meine zweite Partition auf mein IDE Disk formatieren mit
> disktab, ohne dass ich die folgene Meldung bekomme : "this partition is
> allready mounted" ?
>
> Ich habe nur eine Festplatte.
>
Ich weis nicht, ob das mit IDE Platten gleich abläuft. Bei meinen SCSI
Platten kann ich die Partitionen mit newfs formatieren. Mit dem Befehl
disk dürftest Du nicht weiterkommen, da damit die Platte partitioniert und
formatiert wird.
Oliver
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Newsgroups: de.markt.arbeit.angebote,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: WebObjects/EOF Entwickler gesucht
Date: 22 Apr 1998 09:53:10 GMT
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PrintExtensions-Bundle fuer OmniWeb 3.x?
Date: 22 Apr 1998 09:14:37 GMT
Organization: STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting, Germany
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In <1998Apr20.233116.5495@aurora.in-berlin.de> Ingmar Camphausen wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> das PrintExtensions-Bundle fuer OmniWeb 2.x ist sehr nuetzlich. Gibt
> es ein vergleichbares Bundle/"Plugin" auch schon fuer OmniWeb 3.0bx?
Hallo Ingmar!
Leider nein. Schon mal den Autor selbst angemailt?
Gruß, Gerald
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: S:OpenStep 4.2
Date: 22 Apr 1998 09:16:24 GMT
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In <1d7t1ie.ljbh5k1kr7l3oN@[192.168.32.254]> PHREAK wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> Ich bin auf der Suche nach OpenStep 4.2 User + Developer (F+L Version)!
> Wo gibt es so etwas denn noch zu kaufen?
RCN
Flotowstr. 2
12203 Berlin
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From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Q: Adaptec AIC7880
Date: 22 Apr 1998 12:27:12 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
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Hi,
laeuft der auf einem ASUS-Motherboard integrierte
ADAPTEC AIC7880 mit OpenStep 4.x?
Im Hardware-Compatibility-Guide steht nur der
AIC7870.
Danke,
Ciao Martin
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Subject: Re: your chance
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 22:26:40 +0200
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Schätze der kann sein Postfach dichtmachen.
Das hat er übrigens überall in de.* gepostet.
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From: gloger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Jochen Gloger)
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Subject: Speicherfehler, dringend Hilfe noetig
Date: 22 Apr 1998 17:01:01 GMT
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Hallo,
ich habe ein groesseres Problem. Meine Applikation unter NEXTSTEP 3.3
verarbeitet Mengen von Bildfolgen. Dabei stuerzt sie mit System-Panic, je
nachdem zwischen der 580 und 670 Bildfolge, ab. Und das trotz "Laufenlassen
im Debugger". Ich bin nun ziemlich ratlos, wie man so einen Fehler findet. Im
System Panic Fenster konnte ich folgende Meldung abschreiben, bevor ich
booten muste.
Expanding zone objects
Expanding zone objects
zone "rnode structures" rempty
panic: (Cpu 0) zalloc
panic: NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon May 22 17:34:35 PDT 1995; root(rcbuilder):
mk-171.12.obj~11/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
System painc:
zalloc
Das war's. Wenn jemand irgendeine Idee hat, wie ich weiter komme, bitte email
an mich.
Vielen Dank
Gruss
Jochen
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From: rode@hdi.de (Heinrich Rode)
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Subject: Re: Q: Adaptec AIC7880
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 06:34:37 GMT
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>Hi,
>
>laeuft der auf einem ASUS-Motherboard integrierte
>ADAPTEC AIC7880 mit OpenStep 4.x?
>Im Hardware-Compatibility-Guide steht nur der
>AIC7870.
>
>Danke,
>Ciao Martin
Ja, einwandfrei (bei mir mit dem Board P2L97S.
Gruss
H. Rode
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Speicherfehler, dringend Hilfe noetig
Date: 23 Apr 1998 06:53:29 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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hallo jochen,
habe zwar leider keine konkrete loesung, aber im hinterkopf, dass der
nextstep3.3 patch im speichermanagement der NXImage klasse aufgeraeumt hat.
aufspielen des patches koennte vielleicht das problem loesen.
daniel
From: neitzer@informatik.uni-bonn.de (Guido Neitzer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Adaptec AIC7880
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:44:13 +0200
Organization: University of Bonn
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Heinrich Rode <rode@hdi.de>:
> Ja, einwandfrei (bei mir mit dem Board P2L97S.
Ich hab hier einen P2 stehen, auch mit Asus-Board und ebendiesem
Controller. Allerdings kann ich OpenStep nicht installieren. Die
Fehlermeldung, die ich erhalte, erscheint im - nach den ersten
Einstellungen erscheinenden - NeXT-Fenster: etc/init kann nicht gefunden
werden oder so ähnlich. Das kann ich derzeit leider nicht genau angeben.
Woran kann das liegen? Ich hab hier die Prelude to Rhapsody CD, einen
Pentium II 233MHz, 64MB Speicher, Asus Board mit Adaptec Controller,
4.3GB IBM DCAS, Toshiba 32fach CDROM, Ricoh MP6200S CD-RW (alles an
SCSI) und eine Matrox Millenium II Karte.
cug
From: oberlaender@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Matthias Oberlaender)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Categories und InterfaceBuilder (NS 3.3)
Date: 23 Apr 1998 12:27:28 GMT
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Ich wollte per Category Technik ein paar Action Methoden zur Control Klasse
hinzufuegen. Nur, wie biege ich dem InterfaceBuilder das bei? Parsen der
Category Definition bringt nichts.
In meiner Not habe ich Control.h lokal modifiziert und ins NIB geworfen. Dann
hatte er es kapiert und ich konnte die neuen Action Methoden mit Control-Drag
anwÙhlen.
Leider ist beim Neustart des InterfaceBuilders und Wiederföffnen des nib
files im Class Browser alles wieder weg. Wenn jetzt das nib neu abgespeichert
wird, werden die bereits hergestellten Verbindungen gekappt.
Kennt jemand das Problem und/oder eine Loesung?
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From: rode@hdi.de (Heinrich Rode)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Adaptec AIC7880
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:47:42 GMT
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References: <6hknn0$ss9$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> <353ee0b0.2218510@news.aball.de> <1998042314441325819@rhrz-isdn3-p38.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:44:13 +0200, neitzer@informatik.uni-bonn.de
(Guido Neitzer) wrote:
>Heinrich Rode <rode@hdi.de>:
>
>> Ja, einwandfrei (bei mir mit dem Board P2L97S.
>
> Ich hab hier einen P2 stehen, auch mit Asus-Board und ebendiesem
>Controller. Allerdings kann ich OpenStep nicht installieren. Die
>Fehlermeldung, die ich erhalte, erscheint im - nach den ersten
>Einstellungen erscheinenden - NeXT-Fenster: etc/init kann nicht gefunden
>werden oder so ähnlich. Das kann ich derzeit leider nicht genau angeben.
>
> Woran kann das liegen? Ich hab hier die Prelude to Rhapsody CD, einen
>Pentium II 233MHz, 64MB Speicher, Asus Board mit Adaptec Controller,
>4.3GB IBM DCAS, Toshiba 32fach CDROM, Ricoh MP6200S CD-RW (alles an
>SCSI) und eine Matrox Millenium II Karte.
>
>cug
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:44:13 +0200, in de.comp.sys.next you wrote:
>Heinrich Rode <rode@hdi.de>:
>
>> Ja, einwandfrei (bei mir mit dem Board P2L97S.
>
> Ich hab hier einen P2 stehen, auch mit Asus-Board und ebendiesem
>Controller. Allerdings kann ich OpenStep nicht installieren. Die
>Fehlermeldung, die ich erhalte, erscheint im - nach den ersten
>Einstellungen erscheinenden - NeXT-Fenster: etc/init kann nicht gefunden
>werden oder so ähnlich. Das kann ich derzeit leider nicht genau angeben.
>
> Woran kann das liegen? Ich hab hier die Prelude to Rhapsody CD, einen
>Pentium II 233MHz, 64MB Speicher, Asus Board mit Adaptec Controller,
>4.3GB IBM DCAS, Toshiba 32fach CDROM, Ricoh MP6200S CD-RW (alles an
>SCSI) und eine Matrox Millenium II Karte.
>
zur Rhapsody-Installation kann ich leider nichts sagen. Die OpenStep
4.2-Install bei mir lief wie folgt ab:
mit Install-Floppy booten, danach Treiber-Diskette einlegen, dann wird
normalerweise die SCSI-Umgebung erkannt. Am Anfang wuerde ich das
CD-RW erst einmal abschalten (Stecker ab). Danach wird von der BS-CD
im SCSI-CDROM weiter installiert (richtige BUS-Terminierung ist sehr
wichtig !).
Fuer die Matrox-Karte gibt es neuere Treiber bei www.apple.com
(next-answers). Diese laufen einwandfrei (auch der BETA-Treiber, auch
mit Matrox Mistique !).
Noch ein Wort zur IBM-Platte:
Da Next nur Platten bis zur Groesse von 2GB erkennt, muss die Platte
entweder unter einem anderen BS formatiert und eingerichtet werden,
oder aber im single-user-Modus. Wie das funktioniert, wurde in
de.comp.sys.next vor 2 Tagen diskutiert.
Gruss
H. Rode
From: szallies@energotec.de (Constantin Szallies)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Konvertierung von 3.3 NIB Files
Date: 23 Apr 1998 13:59:55 GMT
Organization: Technet GmbH
Message-ID: <6hnhgr$2hg$1@oxygen.technet.net>
Hallo Net Community,
hat es jemand geschaft, 3.3 NIB Files in 4.x NIB Files zu konvertieren, die
NX- oder DBTableView Objekte enthalten.
Bei mir geht's weder mit nibtool noch mit dem InterfaceBuilder direkt!
Vielen Dank,
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Categories und InterfaceBuilder (NS 3.3)
Date: 23 Apr 1998 16:02:09 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6hnom1$cfp$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <6hnc3g$2sj@news.sns-felb.debis.de>
oberlaender@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Matthias Oberlaender) wrote:
>Ich wollte per Category Technik ein paar Action Methoden zur Control Klasse
>hinzufuegen. Nur, wie biege ich dem InterfaceBuilder das bei? Parsen der
[...]
>Kennt jemand das Problem und/oder eine Loesung?
/NextDeveloper/Apps/InterfaceBuilder.app/classes.table modifizieren.
besser waere es, ueber den first responder mechanismus zu gehen.
daniel
From: Ralf Bornat
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Harddisk schaltet sich selbst ab
Date: 23 Apr 1998 20:52:11 GMT
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Hi!
Vielleicht kennt ja jemand das Problem?
Die Conner 1 GByte Platte in meiner NeXTstation mono schaltet sich manchmal
selbständig ab.
Sie läuft seit ein paar Jahren ohne Probleme, aber in letzter Zeit hört sie
mehrfach am Tag auf zu rotieren. Dann läuft sie wieder für Wochen
kontinuierlich.
Ist die Platte defekt, oder kann das auch an der NeXTstation liegen?
Ralf
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From: kuranda@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Anke Ehlers)
Subject: Re: Einlogprobleme durch den Workspace
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Hallo NeXTgemeide,
> seit einem system panic beim Booten habe ich oftmals folgendes Phaenom auf
> meinen Intelmaschine N3.3 P: Beim Einloggen kommt der Workspace nicht hoch
> (interner Fehler ...), nur die Apps aus dem Dock werden gestartet. Schiesse
> ich dann via Ternial.app den Prozess
> '/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/Workspace -LoginProgram YES' ab und logge
> ich mich dadurch aus (ein Abmelden ueber die Fehlermeldung des internen
> Fehlers funktioniert nicht!) und anschliessend wieder ein, ist nur noch die
> Bootpartition angeblich reparierungsbeduerfig, was ich durch dreinmaliges
> Klicken auf 'ignorieren' oder 'reparieren' wegbekomme, da sie ja clear ist
> (sagt jedenfalls fsck)
heute hatte folgende Fehlermeldung auf der Konsole:
Apr 23 16:26:37 jackal WM[227]: DPS client library error: Connection closed
unexpectedly, DPSContext b4c6c, data 0
Apr 23 16:26:37 Workspace[227]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Vielleicht ist das ja ein Hinweis auf mein Problem und jemand hat eine neue
Idee.
Anke
From: schuh@trytec.bo.uunet.de (Jens-Michael Schuh)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Bringt eine AGP Karte mehr Power unter OS4.2
Date: 23 Apr 1998 16:00:14 GMT
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Hallo Miteinander,
gibt es schon irgendwelche Erfahrungen, ob eine AGP Karte unter OS4.2
einen Leistungszuwachs im Vergleich zur gleichen PCI Variante bringt.
Ich benutze eine Matrox Mill. II PCI und überlege, ob ich eine AGP
Version einsetzen soll. Die aktuellen Treiber von NA laufen ja auch mit
der AGP Karte.
Weiß jemand mehr?
Jens
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From: rode@hdi.de (Heinrich Rode)
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Subject: V: NeXT-Station
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:40:38 GMT
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Hallo,
wie im Subject gesagt moechte ich meine gebrauchte Station gegen Gebot
verkaufen (20 MB HS, 1 GB IBM-Platte) incl. BS, Monitor, Floppy, Maus
und deutscher Tastatur.
Angebote bitte an:
heinrich.rode@nienburg.weser.de
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From: kuranda@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Anke Ehlers)
Subject: Re: Dots...registrieren?
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In <6hg5pl$ecl$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Habe an den Autor von Dots.app eine Mail geschrieben, das ich Interesse an
> enen Key fuer Canon-BJC-600 haette, jedoch kam bisher nichts zurueck. Gibt
es
> den noch? Kann man das Teil ggf. auch in Deutschland registrieren? Welche
> Haendler machen denn noch etwas mit NeXT-Software ?
Sonst benutze doch Ghostscript. Das kostest nix und unterstuetzt die meisten
Tintenpisser. Ich habe es gerade fuer meinen HPJet 500 zum Laufen bekommen
und schreibe an einem Artikel fuer die naechste NTY.
Anke
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Hi!
In <Erxr3L.4Mu@anarcoma.in-berlin.de> Anke Ehlers wrote:
> Sonst benutze doch Ghostscript. Das kostest nix und unterstuetzt die
meisten
> Tintenpisser. Ich habe es gerade fuer meinen HPJet 500 zum Laufen bekommen
> und schreibe an einem Artikel fuer die naechste NTY.
"GhostScript"? Aehm...muss i mal schau´n wa.....danke fuer den Tip.
NTY: Das ist schoen...ich hoffe meine Mega-Lieferung kommt bald
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Date: 25 Apr 1998 10:19:00 +0100
From: tadams@pobox.com (Thomas Adams)
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Subject: cp und gnutar Probleme bei 4.2
Zwei Probleme mit OpenStep 4.2 hatten wir neulich und wüßten mal gerne, ob
es da Workarounds zu gibt:
- cp sollte abgebrochen werden (es kopierte gerade eine sehr grosse Datei
und wurde anscheinend nicht fertig damit) und reagierte auf überhaupt kein
Signal. Abbrechen war einfach nicht möglich und somit mußte rebootet
werden.
- /Users wurde mit gnutar gesichert und sollte auf einer anderen Maschine
ausgepackt werden, allerdings ohne /Users/dumpfbacke. gnutar hatten wir
mit allen möglichen Kombinationen des --exclude bzw. X Parameters
gestartet, aber entweder wurde alles oder gar nichts ausgepackt, aber
niemals alles ohne /Users/dumpfbacke.
Wäre das schön, wenn da jemand was zu wüßte!
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Date: 25 Apr 1998 10:09:31 GMT
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
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Subject: Re: cp und gnutar Probleme bei 4.2
Date: 25 Apr 1998 11:35:31 GMT
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Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com> wrote:
> - cp sollte abgebrochen werden (es kopierte gerade eine sehr grosse Datei
> und wurde anscheinend nicht fertig damit) und reagierte auf ?berhaupt kein
> Signal. Abbrechen war einfach nicht m?glich und somit mu?te rebootet
> werden.
Signale sind keine Interrupts. Sie werden dem Zielprozess nur beim
Eintritt in den oder Austritt aus dem Kern zugestellt. Wenn das cp also
der Meinung ist, einen gigantischen read auf die Datei absetzen zu muessen
(oder einen ebensolchen write), kommt der Signalhandler erst zum Zuge, wenn
der Kernelaufruf zurueckkehrt.
Das ist nicht unbedingt schoen, aber Unix. Evtl. hilft es, ein anderes
cp einzusetzen.
Es kann sich allerdings auch um den seltenen Fall handeln, dass das
angesprochene Geraet nicht reagiert. Dann kann es u.U. auch zu nicht-killbaren
Prozessen kommen. Das sollte nicht so sein. Wenn es auftritt, ist es ein
Fehler im Kernel.
Hat es denn noch was kopiert oder nicht?
> - /Users wurde mit gnutar gesichert und sollte auf einer anderen Maschine
> ausgepackt werden, allerdings ohne /Users/dumpfbacke. gnutar hatten wir
> mit allen m?glichen Kombinationen des --exclude bzw. X Parameters
> gestartet, aber entweder wurde alles oder gar nichts ausgepackt, aber
> niemals alles ohne /Users/dumpfbacke.
Wieso?
Geht doch.
gnutar cvf /tmp/users-backup.tar /Users
gnutar xvf /tmp/users-backup.tar --exclude "Users/dumpfbacke/*
Die beiden Tricks bestehen darin, dass
1) gnutar den fuehrenden slash wegwirft (schon beim Einpacken, daher auch
diese schoene Meldung:
gnutar: Removing leading / from absolute path names in the archive.)
2) gnutar eine interne glob-expansion macht, weswegen ohne den
Asterisk nur das Verzeichnis dumpfbacke nicht ausgepackt wird, was
aber wirkungslos bleibt, wenn darin Dateien enthalten sind.
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From: tadams@pobox.com (Thomas Adams)
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Subject: Re: cp und gnutar Probleme bei 4.2
On 25 Apr 98, Axel Habermann wrote in <6hshq3$o2p$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>:
> Eintritt in den oder Austritt aus dem Kern zugestellt. Wenn das cp also
> der Meinung ist, einen gigantischen read auf die Datei absetzen zu muessen
> (oder einen ebensolchen write), kommt der Signalhandler erst zum Zuge, wenn
> der Kernelaufruf zurueckkehrt.
Oh, das wußte ich nicht. Ist dann natürlich logisch, daß wir das nicht
abbrechen konnten.
> Hat es denn noch was kopiert oder nicht?
Ja, die Datei war so groß, daß er wirklich noch kopierte.
> gnutar cvf /tmp/users-backup.tar /Users
>
> gnutar xvf /tmp/users-backup.tar --exclude "Users/dumpfbacke/*
>
> Die beiden Tricks bestehen darin, dass
Sorry, das haben wir alles probiert, ohne Erfolg. Ne Stunde oder so saßen
wir da bestimmt dran. Allerdings riefen wir gnutar immer mit xvzpf auf,
wegen .tar.gz und alter Gewohnheit. Ist es das vielleicht? Werde ich noch
mal testen. Genauso wie in DejaNews mal gucken, was im Thread "tar
excludet nicht" in de.comp.os.unix stand. Habe ich eben zufällig gesehen,
leider lösche ich den Kram zu schnell. :-|
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From: reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de (Reinhard Wolf)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NeXT Software / Hardware + Paraphernalia
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:07:38 GMT
Organization: University of Giessen, Germany
Message-ID: <35449739.166633190@news.uni-giessen.de>
Hi NeXTianer,
ich habe hier einen Haufen Dinge, die ich an Sammler ;-) gegen
Hoechstgebot abgeben moechte:
Software:
NEXTSTEP3.2 Black User Deutsch inkl. Schuber u. Handbuecher
NEXTSTEPS3.3 NIHS Academic Bundle (User, Developer, EOF1.1) inkl.
Schuber und Handbuecher
OPENSTEP4.1 NIS Academic Bundle (User, Developer, EOF2.0) inkl.
Handbuecher
Framemaker 3.0 (Medien u. Handbuecher)
WordPerfect 1.0.1 (Schuber, Medien u. Handbuecher)
ScanOMatic 1.5 (Medien u. Handbuch)
JetPilot 2.0 (Medien u. Handbuch)
co-Xist 3.0 (Schuber, Medien u. Handbuch)
Diagram! 1.1 (Karton, Medium, Handbuch)
42Tools TOOLdisk V 1.1 (Schuber, Medien u. Handbuch)
VarioData 2.62 / VarioData Pro mit 5 Benutzerlizenz (Schuber, Medien
u. Handbuch)
Koala 1.38 (Lagerverwaltung u. Faktura) (Medium u. Prospekt)
EasyBTX 1.1 (Medium)
NXFax 1.03 (Medium)
Lighthouse Design CD
Impulse. CD Dart Katalog Sommer 1994
Neue Horizonte CD. Dart Openstep CD Dez 1996
Anderes Zeuges:
Eine Wundertuete:
1 Quantum LPS 210 aus Station - Inhalt unbekannt.....
1 ColorStation 32MB, 400MB, NS3.2 inst., Maus, Tastatur, Soundbox,
Y-Kabel aber kein Monitor....
Paraphernalia fuer die hartgesottenen Sammler:
Zeitschriften:
NeXTWorld Herbst 1991 mit Bericht uber die "neuen" Farbsysteme
NeXTWorld Winter 1991 Networking u.a
NeXTWorld Fruehling 1992 NS3.0, ColorTurbo, Farbdrucker und CDRom
vorgestellt
NeXTWorld April/May 1993 NeXT goes Software only....
WORKOUT 1/92 u. 2/92 (dtsch, Schwerpunkt NeXT)
Alle diese Zeitschriften sind geradezu vollgestopft mit Bildern von
NeXT Maschinen in mehr oder weniger lasziven Posen....
Sonstiges:
1 Bogen Klebeetiketten (2 grosse, 4 mittlere, 9 kleine mit NeXT logo)
zwei Preislisten Sept. 1991 zum Aufgeilen, eine vollgekrakelt
Prospekt "Weshalb die Welt einen neuen Computer braucht" -
superscharf!
Prospekt "Die NeXT Produktfamilie"
SoftPC Manual (Kopie)
Lotus Improv Manual (Kopie)
Buch: Third Party Products for NEXTSTEP Summer 1994
Buch: Das grosse NeXT Buch von Data Becker
Das war es dann.....
Angebote bitte an:
reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de
Gruesse
Reinhard
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Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Software auf CD-ROM verfuegbar (Peanuts-FTP-Archiv)
Date: 27 Apr 1998 15:25:24 GMT
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Das Peanuts-Archiv enthaelt mehr als 3GB an Shareware, Freeware,
Public-Domain und kommerzielle Software-Demos. All dies ist nun auf
CD-ROM verfuegbar.Fuer eine detailierte Inhaltsbeschreibung siehe unten.
Das Archiv enthaelt auch jede Software des amerikanischen Archivs:
next-ftp.peak.org
Die neue CD-ROM ist in zwei Versionen erhaeltlich:
- Paket (1) ist ein Update zu dem zuletzt erhaeltlichen 'Volume 2'. Die CD
kostet 30DM oder 20$ und enthaelt jedes neue Softwarepaket welches
auf Peanuts seit Nov.96 verfuegbar ist bis heute.
- Paket (2) ist fuer Besitzer ohne Volume-2 gedacht und enthaelt das
komplette Archiv auf 5 CD-ROMs zum Preis von nur DM50/30$.
Weitere Details zum Preis und Bezug weiter unten.
Inhalt
======
Eine komplette Inhaltsange der CD's finden sie auf unseren WWW Server
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Derzeit gibt es kein vergleichbares Produkt mit der Software wie wir
sie anbieten.
Neben den bekannten Standardanwendungen in der letzten verfuegbaren
Version sind auf dieser CD wieder Updates und neue Programme wie bspw. das
MiscKit, MiscSoundKit, die kompletten NeXTanswers, Usenet Artikel des
Jahres 1996, die neuesten Rhapsody Programme, sowie in weiteren
Kategorien: Unix-Portierungen, Text-Anwendungen, wissenschaftliche
Programme, Netzwerkwerkzeuge, Internetanwendungen, Entwicklerwerkzeuge,
-ressourcen, etc., und zahlreiche nuetzliche weitere Werkzeuge fuer
jedermann in der gwohnten hohen Qualitaet von NeXT-Anwendungen.
Die meisten Anwendungen sind fuer mehrere Architekturen vorkompiliert
verfuegbar, wie Intel Pentium, Sparc, HP-PA, PowerPc und fuer verschiedene
Betriebssysteme wie WindowsNT, Windows95, Rhapsody, NEXTSTEP/Mach,
OPENSTEP/Mach, OPENSTEP/Enterprise.
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Die folgenden Preisangaben sind in DM und US-Dollar.
Versand erfolgt auf Wunsch mit oder ohne Nachnahme.
Beachten sie bitte, dass der Versand per Nachnahme nicht
in alle Laender (speziell den USA) moeglich ist!.
Wir verschicken grundsaetzlich per Luftpost. Wuenschen
sie den Landweg, so teilen sie uns das bitte vorher mit.
Einzelpreis fuer Paket (1): 30DM/20$ (Update CD, 1 CD)
Einzelpreis fuer Paket (2): 50DM/30$ (Komplettset, 5 CD)
Untenstehende Preise verstehen sich als Komplettpreise inkl.
Verpackung, Porto und Versand in DM/US-Dollar.
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Bei der Zahlungsart per Ueberweisung, Bar oder per Scheck, muss der
passende Betrag vorher bei uns eingehen, bevor die CDs versendet werden.
Beachten Sie bitte bei Ueberweisungen die Verzoegerung durch die Banken.
Bitte stellen sie besondere Fragen bspw. bzgl. Auslandspreisen, an:
cdrom@peanuts.org oder eine andere oben genannten Kontaktadresse.
Bitte Vergessen Sie bei Ihrer Bestellung nicht die gewuenschte
Menge, Zahlungsart und Ihre eigene Adresse anzugeben!
Ueber das Peanuts FTP Archiv
============================
Das Peanuts FTP Archiv ist eine Gruppe von freiwilligen Helfer, die sich
in Ihrer Freizeit um das Archiv kuemmern und damit der
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Gemeinde helfen will.
Das Archiv sitzt in Muenchen und ist weltweit per FTP, dem World Wide Web
und ueber E-Mail erreichbar.
Durch den Verkauf der CD soll kein Gewinn erzielt werden. Sollten dennoch
Gewinne erzielt werden, werden diese zur Verbesserung des Archivs
eingesetzt (bspw. neue Festplatten, schnellere Anbindung, neue Rechner).
Die Software die sich im Archiv findet ist ausschlieslich in der 'Public
Domain' (frei kopierbar, Autor gibt Copyright auf), 'Freeware' (frei
verfuegbar, Autor behaelt Copyright), Shareware (frei kopierbar, Autor
verlangt einen geringen Unkostenbetrag bei haeufiger Nutzung) oder
kommerzielle Demonstrationssoftware (eingeschraenkte Vollversionen). Die
Software wird von der ganze Welt zusammengestellt und beinhaltet auch die
Software anderer bekannter FTP Server. Als Service wird jede Software
gesichtet und in einer leicht zu verstehenden Verzeichnisstruktur
einsortiert.
Das Peanuts Archiv existiert seit 1989 und produziert CD-ROMs seit 1995.
Zahlreiche Kopien (Mirrors) des Archivs sind weltweit ueber das Internet
erreichbar. Die Kontaktadressen sind:
World Wide Web: http://www.peanuts.org/
FTP Zugang: ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/
E-Mail Kontakt: peanuts-admin@peanuts.org
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From: Olaf Klein <oklein@smallo.ruhr.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Software auf CD-ROM verfuegbar (Peanuts-FTP-Archiv)
Date: 27 Apr 1998 19:59:32 +0200
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scholzb@NOSPAM.peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM) writes:
> Das weltgroesste Softwarearchiv fuer NEXTSTEP, OpenStep und Rhapsody
> systeme und Umgebungen 'Peanuts' ist nun auf CD-ROM verfuegbar.
Haette ich bestellt, leider ist meine Mail gebounct. Ich unterstuetze
keine Adressfaelscher.
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Sicherung/Treiberdisk bauen und Mozilla
Date: 28 Apr 1998 04:52:18 GMT
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Moin!
Welches ist die "eleganteste" Möglichkeit Treiberdisketten aus den
installierten Treibern seines Systems zu erstellen?
Ich habe die SB-Treiber angepasst (=> NeXTTOYOU), den DiamondSteallth64
(DRAM)-Treiber von NeXTAnswers, die ich u.a. auf zus. Treiberdisketten
unterbringen will, wie auch den ATAPI-Treiber.
Ich moechte gerne "Norfall-Disks" erstellen, die mir die Möglichkeit geben,
wieder zum jetzigen Status zurückzukehren, sollte ich mal wieder zuviel
fummeln....
Die in der FAQ beschriebene Lösung ist etwas konfus - gibt es da nix
besseres?
BTW:
Muss man einen X-Server installieren um Netscape/Mozilla nutzen zu können
oder gibt es da etwas BINAERES (lechtz) fuer Intel-NeXT 3.3 ?
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From: scholzb@NOSPAM.peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Eagle Linux auf NeXT (schwarz)?
Date: 28 Apr 1998 10:09:05 GMT
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paragram@gmx.net (Florian Cramer) wrote:
>Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
>> Hat jemand schonmal versucht, die Eagle Linux-Distribution auf schwarzem
>> NeXT laufen zu lassen?
>> (http://www.suse.de/software/eagle/eagle.html)
>
>Diese Werbung ist unseriöser Humbug. 68k-Linux läuft nicht einmal auf
>der Hälfte der Rechner, die auf dieser Seite angegeben sind. Es gibt
>hierzu eindeutige Statements von den Entwicklern des 68k-Linux und - von
>meiner Seite aus - auch eine Mail an SuSE, die bislang noch nicht
>beantwortet wurde.
>
Sorry,
Aber das kapier ich jetzt nicht. Auf dieser Seite genaue 1 Rechnerarchitektur
angegeben, naemlich Amiga. Keine Rede von NeXT-Hardware, Mac68k oder
sonstwas. Es weiss mittlerweile jeder, dass es Linux fuer den Amiga gibt,
was soll also bitteschoen an dieser Seite unserioes sein?
Gruesse,
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From: scholzb@NOSPAM.peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Harddisk schaltet sich selbst ab
Date: 28 Apr 1998 10:11:56 GMT
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Ralf Bornat wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Vielleicht kennt ja jemand das Problem?
>
>Die Conner 1 GByte Platte in meiner NeXTstation mono schaltet sich manchmal
>selbständig ab.
>Sie läuft seit ein paar Jahren ohne Probleme, aber in letzter Zeit hört sie
>mehrfach am Tag auf zu rotieren. Dann läuft sie wieder für Wochen
>kontinuierlich.
>Ist die Platte defekt, oder kann das auch an der NeXTstation liegen?
Ich waere vorsichtig! Die letzte Platte die das bei mir gemacht hat
ist 2 Wochen spaeter ueber den Jordan gegangen und hat nebenbei auch
noch gleich ein paar crashes bei anderen Platten verursacht.
Wenn Du allerdings etwas am SCSI Strang geandert hast, kann es auch daran
liegen.
In beiden Faellen: Vorsicht! Backup machen, Ersatzplatte bereithalten.
Gruesse,
Bernhard.
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From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Software auf CD-ROM verfuegbar (Peanuts-FTP-Archiv)
Date: 28 Apr 1998 10:06:43 GMT
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Olaf Klein wrote:
> scholzb@NOSPAM.peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM) writes:
> > Das weltgroesste Softwarearchiv fuer NEXTSTEP, OpenStep und Rhapsody
> > systeme und Umgebungen 'Peanuts' ist nun auf CD-ROM verfuegbar.
> Haette ich bestellt, leider ist meine Mail gebounct. Ich unterstuetze
> keine Adressfaelscher.
[X] Du hast leider gar nicht verstanden.
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From: scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Software auf CD-ROM verfuegbar (Peanuts-FTP-Archiv)
Date: 28 Apr 1998 10:17:13 GMT
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Olaf Klein <oklein@smallo.ruhr.de> wrote:
>
>scholzb@NOSPAM.peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM) writes:
>> Das weltgroesste Softwarearchiv fuer NEXTSTEP, OpenStep und Rhapsody
>> systeme und Umgebungen 'Peanuts' ist nun auf CD-ROM verfuegbar.
>Haette ich bestellt, leider ist meine Mail gebounct. Ich unterstuetze
>keine Adressfaelscher.
Dann hier nochmal ein Posting mit richtiger Adresse von MIR
Da kannst Du jetzt munter drauf reply machen.
Bestellungen sollten aber an cdrom@peanuts.org gehen!!
Gruesse,
Bernhard.
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From: paragram@gmx.net (Florian Cramer)
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Subject: Re: Eagle Linux auf NeXT (schwarz)?
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:55:52 +0100
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Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM <scholzb@NOSPAM.peanuts.org> wrote:
> Sorry,
> Aber das kapier ich jetzt nicht. Auf dieser Seite genaue 1 Rechnerarchitektur
> angegeben, naemlich Amiga. Keine Rede von NeXT-Hardware, Mac68k oder
> sonstwas. Es weiss mittlerweile jeder, dass es Linux fuer den Amiga gibt,
> was soll also bitteschoen an dieser Seite unserioes sein?
Ich habe nachgesehen - SuSE hat die Seite komplett geändert, vielleicht
als Reaktion auf die Beschwerden im Usenet. Vorher standen dort
fantastische Erklärungen, Eagle Linux laufe u.a. auf NeXT-Hardware,
68k-Macs, Atari STs (!) und sogar Amiga 1200/2000.
Florian
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From: scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Anti-Windows Movie
Date: 28 Apr 1998 13:10:14 GMT
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Hallo zusammen,
Sorry, aber ich konnte es mir einfach nicht verkneifen.
Das ChaosComputerRadio hat einen amerkinischen Video
veroeffentliche, welcher nun in voller Laenge (70 MB!) auf
Peanuts verfuegbar ist. Da es ja leider keine schwarze
Hardware mehr gibt, muß man nun wohl MacEvengelisten werden,
Und dieser Video laesst sicherlich die Herzen aller hoeher
schlagen --- nebenbei ist er auch noch perfekt inszeniert!
Natuerlich laesst sich der Video mit NeXTtime abspielen.
Er dauert ca. 5 1/2 Minuten. (BTW: wussted Ihr schon:
'no animals were harmed during the production' of NeXTTime) :-)
(Originalzitat des Info-Panels)
Wer die schnelle Leitung dazu hat, moege ihn sich ansehen.
Es sind immerhin noch 61MB gepackt zu saugen. Fuer Modem
Benutzer ist es wohl keinesfalls zu empfehlen.
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData/Graphics/movies/winsongs.mov.gz
Viele Gruesse,
Bernhard.
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From: scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Sicherung/Treiberdisk bauen und Mozilla
Date: 28 Apr 1998 16:03:51 GMT
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jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) wrote:
>Ich moechte gerne "Norfall-Disks" erstellen, die mir die Möglichkeit geben,
>wieder zum jetzigen Status zurückzukehren, sollte ich mal wieder zuviel
>fummeln....
>
Du formatierst Disketten unter NEXTSTEP und packst die gewünschten Treiber
mit dem gleichen Pfad auf die Diskette wie sie auch auf der Platte liegen.
That's all (/private/Drivers/i386 oder so, Achtung: eines dieser
Verzeichnisse ist ein Link, diesen nicht kopieren).
>Die in der FAQ beschriebene Lösung ist etwas konfus - gibt es da nix
>besseres?
>
Welche Stelle in den FAQs ist das denn bitte? Sorry, aber da kann ich
mich nicht mehr daran erinnern.
>Muss man einen X-Server installieren um Netscape/Mozilla nutzen zu können
>oder gibt es da etwas BINAERES (lechtz) fuer Intel-NeXT 3.3 ?
Ja.
Viele Gruesse,
Bernhard.
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Sicherung/Treiberdisk bauen und Mozilla
Date: 29 Apr 1998 04:47:33 GMT
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Moin!
In <6i4ul7$ov8$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM
wrote:
> Du formatierst Disketten unter NEXTSTEP und packst die gewünschten Treiber
> mit dem gleichen Pfad auf die Diskette wie sie auch auf der Platte liegen.
> That's all (/private/Drivers/i386 oder so, Achtung: eines dieser
> Verzeichnisse ist ein Link, diesen nicht kopieren).
Ok, aber NeXTStep zeigt bei den mitgelieferten DEVICE-Drivers nicht das
NeXTFormat an oder hab ich was mit den Augen?
> >Die in der FAQ beschriebene Lösung ist etwas konfus - gibt es da nix
> >besseres?
> >
> Welche Stelle in den FAQs ist das denn bitte? Sorry, aber da kann ich
> mich nicht mehr daran erinnern.
Es war eh fuer PLATTEN und nicht fuer Disketten <upps> :)))
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From: rode@hdi.de (Heinrich Rode)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: V: NeXT-Station
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:29:40 GMT
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On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:40:38 GMT, rode@hdi.de (Heinrich Rode) wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>wie im Subject gesagt moechte ich meine gebrauchte Station gegen Gebot
>verkaufen (20 MB HS, 1 GB IBM-Platte) incl. BS, Monitor, Floppy, Maus
>und deutscher Tastatur.
>
>Angebote bitte an:
>heinrich.rode@nienburg.weser.de
Leider war die E-Mail falsch, hier jetzt die richtige ;-)
heinrich.rode@nienburg-weser.de
From: cenk@trytec.bo.uunet.de (Cenk Suavi)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Riva128 Grafikkarte
Date: 29 Apr 1998 12:43:20 GMT
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Kann mir einer sagen wo ich treiber für den Riva128 Chip (für Openstep 4.2)
finde!?!?!?!?
Das ist meine Grafikkarte (STB Velo...)
DANKE
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3547279d.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 29 Apr 98 13:14:05 GMT
Bester Film des Jahres (Besser als "Bill gets creamed")! Kommt besonders gut
wenn man ihn sich mit anderen Unix- und Mac-Leuten zusammen anschaut. :-)
Sven
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From: no.spam@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede)
Subject: ADB-Maus streikt
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:10:18 GMT
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Folgendes Szenario:
Turbo-Mono-Station erkennt die Maus schneinbar nicht. Nach re-boot - ohne
irgendwelche Veraenderungen - doch wieder. Ich kenne dieses Benehmen nur,
wenn die Maus beim Booten nicht eingesteckt war, war sie aber. Kleine
Besonderheit, die aber bisher keine Probleme bereitete: eine zweite
Tastatur haengt mit in der Kette.
Vielleicht nicht dazugehoerend, aber doch eigenartig: beim Login via
'console' oder im single user mode benimmt sich die Tastatur so, als waere
caps lock an.
Hinweise?
Markus Gloede
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From: "Dr. Michael Paus" <Michael.Paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,stgt.next
Subject: Einladung zum naechsten NeKSt-Treffen in Stuttgart
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:06:04 +0200
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Hallo NeXT-Fans,
es ist daher mal wieder Zeit fuer unseren ueblichen NeXT-Stammtisch.
Ich habe daher fuer den kommenden Montag den 4. 5. 1998 um 20.00h wieder
einen Tisch im Sherlock reserviert. Alle die an einem Kloenschnack mit
der Stuttgarter NeXT User Gruppe Interesse haben sollten mal
vorbeikommen.
(Fuer alle die immer noch nicht wissen wo das Sherlock ist:
Stuttgart Vaihingen, Pfaffenwaldring 62, Tel. 0711/6874909)
Ich hoffe auf zahlreiches Erscheinen
Michael
From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: smail 3.2.0.101 und NEXTSTEP
Date: 29 Apr 1998 06:57:23 GMT
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Hallo!
Hat jemand von Euch schon smail 3.2 unter NEXTSTEP zum Laufen gebracht? Üb
ersetzen konnte ich es inzwischen (nach zahlreichen kleineren "Anpassungen"),
doch trotz korrekter Konfiguration will es mit NetInfo einfach nicht. Bei
jeder Mail kommt er mit einer Fehlermeldung zurück, daß er keine
NetInfo-Aliasdatei findet ...
Any Ideas?
Gerald
PS: Und wie immer, bitte keine "sendmail ist besser"-Diskussion.
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From: emarinos@marcon.de (E. Marinos)
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Subject: Test. Please ignore
Date: 29 Apr 1998 21:16:06 GMT
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From: scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Sicherung/Treiberdisk bauen und Mozilla
Date: 30 Apr 1998 16:31:24 GMT
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jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) wrote:
>> Du formatierst Disketten unter NEXTSTEP und packst die gewünschten Treiber
>> mit dem gleichen Pfad auf die Diskette wie sie auch auf der Platte liegen.
>> That's all (/private/Drivers/i386 oder so, Achtung: eines dieser
>> Verzeichnisse ist ein Link, diesen nicht kopieren).
>
>Ok, aber NeXTStep zeigt bei den mitgelieferten DEVICE-Drivers nicht das
>NeXTFormat an oder hab ich was mit den Augen?
>
NeXTFormat? Wie was? Aegypten?
Also nochmal:
- Diskette einlegen
- Check for Disk wählen
- Diskette anwählen und Disk formatieren wählen. Format: NeXT, Name egal.
- Verzeichnis auf der Diskette anlegen: private/Drivers/i386/
- dieses Verzechnis im Shelf deponieren
- in das Verzeichis /private/Drivers/i386 der Festplatte wechseln.
- gewünschte Treiber auf das Verzeichnis der Diskette im Shelf ziehen
- auf die Kopieroption achten
- fertig.
Also jetzt sollte es auf alle Faelle funktionieren? Ansonsten haben
wir uns total missverstanden und Du mußt mir nochmal erlaeutern was Du
willst.
Wenn Du nur von Diskette booten willst, machst Du übrigens das gleiche
und kopierst nur den Treiber 'System'. Dort editierst Du die Zeile
"Kernel" = "mach_kernel";
so um, daß sie der Eingabe eines Bootprompts entspricht, bei SCSI-Geräten
bspw.
"Kernel" = "sd(0)mach_kernel";
für IDE
"Kernel" = "hd(0)mach_kernel";
Die Zahl in klammern entspricht dem Geraet am Bus, auf diese Tour kann
man auch von nicht boot-faehigen Geraeten starten.
Viele Gruesse,
Bernhard.
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Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/
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From: scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Peanuts-CD-ROM Korrektur
Date: 30 Apr 1998 16:42:50 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6ia9ma$dlm$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de>
Auf der Ankuendigung in unseren Web-Seiten ist uns leider ein Fehler
unterlaufen.
Die Adresse zur Bestellung per e-mail lautet: cdrom@peanuts.org
_nicht_ cdrom@peanuts.leo.org wie faelschlicherweise dort zuerst
aufgefuehrt.
Sollten sie erfolglos versucht haben ueber den WWW link, oder
per Hand eine E-Mail abzuschicken, versuchen sie es bitte nochmals
mit der nun korregierten Adresse: cdrom@peanuts.org
Link zur CD-Seite: http://www.peanuts.org/server/pad.html
(Bestellhinweise, Inhaltsangabe, Preise, ... ).
Bei der Fax-Nummer handelt es sich um einen kombinierten Telefon/Fax-
Anschluss. Bei einem erfolglosen Erstversuch, versuchen sie es bitte
gleich nochmals, und ignorieren die Anrufbeantworteransage.
Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Bernhard Scholz
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From: "Joerg Spix" <Joerg.Spix@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ADB-Maus streikt
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:51:43 +0200
Organization: C. v. Ossietzky Universitaet Oldenburg - Fachbereich Informatik
Message-ID: <6iakkn$ma1@news.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
References: <no.spam-2904981710200001@topera.camelot.de>
Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.camelot.de> wrote:
> Folgendes Szenario:
>
> Turbo-Mono-Station erkennt die Maus schneinbar nicht. Nach re-boot - ohne
> irgendwelche Veraenderungen - doch wieder. Ich kenne dieses Benehmen nur,
> wenn die Maus beim Booten nicht eingesteckt war, war sie aber. Kleine
> Besonderheit, die aber bisher keine Probleme bereitete: eine zweite
> Tastatur haengt mit in der Kette.
>
> Vielleicht nicht dazugehoerend, aber doch eigenartig: beim Login via
> 'console' oder im single user mode benimmt sich die Tastatur so, als waere
> caps lock an.
Vielleicht ein Wackelkontakt im Mauskabel?
Hatte ich in meiner Maus auch. War natuerlich gleich draussen vor der
Zugentlastung an der Maus.
Erst mal mit einer Mac-Maus testen ob es geht, wenn ja:
Maus oeffnen (unter dem Gleitpad unter den Tasten ist noch eine
Schraube, mit Kuechenmesser unter das Pad und langsam nach oben
abziehen) Kabel 2 cm vor der Zugentlastung aussen abschneiden und wieder
innen an die Maus loeten. Hat bei mir wunderbar funktioniert.
Die Zugentlastung habe ich laengs aufgeschnitten, dann kann man spaeter
das Kabel wieder reinlegen und ankleben, das haelt dann ganz gut.
Viel Glueck,
Joerg
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Anti-Windows Movie
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:03:12 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
Message-ID: <1998Apr29.170312.410@gamelan.okay.net>
References: <6i4kfm$8n2$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> <3547279d.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
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In <3547279d.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Sven Droll wrote:
> Bester Film des Jahres (Besser als "Bill gets creamed")! Kommt besonders
gut
> wenn man ihn sich mit anderen Unix- und Mac-Leuten zusammen anschaut. :-)
Vielleicht gebt Ihr mal uns Modem-Besitzern eine kleine Inhaltsangabe ?
From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,maus.sys.next,maus.sys.mac,bln.termine,bln.comp.misc,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: TREFFEN: Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) am 4. Mai 1998
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next
Date: 30 Apr 1998 20:44:10 GMT
Organization: STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting, Germany
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EINLADUNG ZUM TREFFEN DER BERLINER NeXT USER GROUP (BeNG)
*********************************************************
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) trifft sich am
Montag, den 4. Mai 1998, um 20.00 Uhr,
in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e. V.,
Kiautschoustrasse 18, 13353 Berlin,
wobei folgende Themen geplant sind:
WWDC AUSBLICK
In zwei Wochen findet Apples weltweite Entwicklerkonferenz
im sonnigen Kalifornien statt. Wir werfen einen Blick nach
vorne und berichten, was die Teilnehmer - vor allem in
Sachen in Rhapsody - erwartet. Auf dem Juni-Treffen werden
dann zwei Teilnehmer ausfuehrlich berichten.
ON THE ROAD
Im Juni geht Apple mit Rhapsody und WebObjects auf
Hochschultour durch Deutschland, Oesterreich und die Schweiz.
Naeheres zu Terminen und Inhalten erfahren Sie auf dem
BeNG-Treffen.
NEUE DEVELOPER PROGRAMME
Anfang April hat Apple die Entwicklerprogramme komplett
umgestellt. Wir erzaehlen, was dies inhaltlich und vor allem
finanziell beteutet.
VIELE FRAGEN VIELE ANTWORTEN
Natuerlich wird auch Zeit bleiben, um aktuelle Fragen zu
beantworten oder die eine oder andere Hilfestellung zu geben.
Das Treffen steht allen NEXTSTEP und OPENSTEP- bzw. Rhapsody-
Interessierten offen, auch Einsteigern oder Leuten, die erst einmal
mehr ueber NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP und Rhapsody, das zukuenftige
Betriebsssystem von Apple, erfahren wollen.
Wir treffen uns in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e.V.
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin (Wedding)
von 20.00 bis ca. 22.00 Uhr. Die Raeume selbst befinden sich im
Erdgeschoss.
WIE KOMMT MAN HIN
Da die Kiautschoustrasse in einem Wohngebiet liegt und es
erfahrungsgemaess kaum freie Parkplaetze in der Naehe gibt,
empfehlen wir die Anfahrt mit dem Fahrrad oder mit oeffentlichen
Verkehrsmitteln.
Sie erreichen uns am besten ueber folgende Linien:
U-BAHN U 9 bis U-Bahnhof Amrumer Strasse
U 6 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
BUS 248 bis Kiautschoustrasse
221 bis Luxemburger Strasse
245 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
120 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
Die behindertengerechten Busse der Linie 248 halten fast vor der Tuer
(50 m), bei den anderen Linien sollten Sie einen Fussweg von etwa
fuenf Minuten einplanen. Einen Fahrplan von Ihnen zur BeNG finden Sie
unter der URL http://www.fahrinfo-berlin.de.
Am \ BUS 221 ___---"""
ru \ ___-H-"""
\ me \ TFH ___---""" ___---
\ r \ ___---""" ___---
\ \ ___---""" Strasse <"" ___
\ St. \_---""" burger _H--\ T \ ___---"""
\ Luxem- ___---"BUS 221\ e "" ___---
_--"" U-Bf. ___---""" ___---" g _---"""
Amrumer St.___---""" ____---"""ftst.__-\ e \ ___
<" _--""" Tri-__--"""" \ l \__---"""
__--\ \ \__-- S \"" ___----" e ___---""
-"" \ \ \ a \___---""" _____ r \""
\ T \ ___--" m str___---""" \ \ BUS 248
\ o \__---""" gel- o <""" \ S H
N \ r Spren- __--""\ a \ BUS 248 H t \ U-Bhf
^ \ f .-"""""" \ s \ ___---"" r \ Wed-
W <-+-> O \ s \ \ t \___---""" str. \ ding
v \ t \ _\ r Kiautschou__---""\ \ -->
S \ r \ \ ___---""" BeNG \ \__-
\ \__Pekinger \_-\ \ ==== __\
___---"" Pl.--__ \ \ __--""
___---""" Nordufer """--__\ \ __--"" str. __-
___---""""""""""""---___ Nord- "" Lynar __--""
___---""" ""-_ ufer __--""
" "-_ _--""
\ "\
[Diese "Karte" sollte mit einem nicht-] \ \
[proportionalen Font betrachtet werden] \ \
Wenn Sie einen Internet-Zugang haben, koennen Sie einen Blick auf den
entsprechenden Kartenausschnitt auf dem Server des StadtINFO-Verlags
werfen. Unter der URL http://www.beng.org/meeting.html ist eine
Umgebungskarte der Kiautschoustrasse abgebildet, auf der die
Vereinsraeume des IN-Berlin e. V. durch einen roten Kreis markiert
sind.
DAS UEBERNAECHSTE TREFFEN
Das darauffolgende Treffen findet am 8. Juni 1998 statt. Bisher ist
kein konkretes Vortragsthema geplant.
UEBER BeNG
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) existiert seit 1990 und ist
ein loser Zusammenschluss von NeXT-Interessierten.
Wir betreiben zwei Mailinglisten fuer Ankuendigungen bzw. fuer
Diskussionen rund um NeXT/Apple-Technologien und einen FTP-Server
fuer NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Programme (ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT).
Unser Rhapsody-FTP-Server (ftp://ftp.beng.org) befindet sich noch
im Aufbau. Naehere Informationen erhalten sie, indem Sie eine E-Mail
an about@beng.org schicken.
Wir treffen uns in der Regel am ersten Montag im Monat um 20.00 Uhr.
Wenn dieser Tag ein Feiertag ist, findet das Treffen in der
darauffolgenden Woche statt. Oft werden auch Vortraege gehalten oder
Vorfuehrungen arrangiert.
Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG)
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 39 03 93 03
Fax +49 30 / 39 03 93 04
WWW http://www.beng.org
E-Mail info@beng.org
UEBER IN-BERLIN
Das Individual Network Berlin (IN-Berlin) bietet seit 1990
Internet-Zugang zur privaten Nutzung an. IN-Berlin arbeitet nicht
gewinnorientiert und ist seit 1996 ein eingetragener Verein, der
heute ueber seine 2 MBit/s-Anbindung mehr als 600 Teilnehmer mit
Internet-Konnektivitaet versorgt.
In den Vereinsraeumen des IN-Berlin e.V. in Berlin-Wedding finden
regelmaessig Usertreffen, Schulungen und Veranstaltungen befreundeter
Gruppen, z. B. der Berliner LINUX-Usergruppe (BeLUG) oder der Berliner
NeXT User Group (BeNG), statt.
Info-Kontakt IN-Berlin e. V.
Kiautschoustr. 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 45 49 43 43
Fax +40 30 / 45 49 43 44
WWW http://www.in-berlin.de
E-Mail info@in-berlin.de
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_ < STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting
/ / +49 30 39731400 -401 (Fax)
\ __\ Berlin - Germany - Earth
From: Ernst_Biesalski@magicvillage.de (Ernst Biesalski)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Druckerprobleme Next Laserdrucker
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 01:10:35 +0200
Organization: Handelsvertretung fuer Baustoffe
Message-ID: <1d8brai.v8fyh01246sykN@hh12a.vnet.de>
Guten Tag,
bei mir gibt es ein Problem beim Drucken. Aus heiterem Himmel faengt der
Drucker an, alle Ausdrucke komplett schwarz einzufaerben mit vier
weissen Streifen im Abstand von ca. 1 cm zueinander am Beginn der Seite.
Was kann das sein?
Nach einigem herumexperimentieren hab ich nun den Eindruck, das der
Druckjob gestartet, aber nicht beendet wird. Nach dem Ausdruck einer
solchen "schwarzen Seite" lassen sich ersteinmal keine weiteren Drucke
starten. In der Druckerschlage des PrintManager bleibt der
eingeschwaerzte Ausdruck drinne. In /usr/spool//NeXT/LocalPrinter stehen
nach dem Druckvorgang ausser den ueblichen Dateien "lock", "status" und
".seq" auch noch eine Datei "cfA025biesalski".
Die Datei "lock" hat den Eintrag
221
cfA025biesalski
Die Datei "status" hat den Eintrag
Printing
Folgende Fehlermeldungen tauchen dann auf:
Weiter laufender Druckprozess laut ps -aux
root 221 1.5 6.4 6.27M 1.27M ? SWN 0:01
/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver -p Local_Printer -F
NXMsg-Local_Printer -n root -h biesalski
Fehlermeldung in /priv/adm/lpd-errs:
May 1 00:26:53 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[221]: biesalski:root -
start
aber nicht die Meldung mit biesalski:root - end
Ebenfalls in diesem Zusammenhang stehende Fehlermeldungen in
/priv/adm/lpd-errs im Zusammenhang:
Apr 30 21:32:35 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[221]: biesalski:root -
start
Apr 30 21:32:54 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[221]: biesalski:root -
end
Apr 30 21:35:06 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[226]: biesalski:root -
start
Apr 30 21:40:15 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[226]: Print job aborted
Apr 30 21:40:15 biesalski npd[186]: PrintSpooler couldn't unlink
/usr/spool/NeXT/Local_Printer/cfA014biesalski: No such file or directory
Apr 30 21:40:38 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[251]: biesalski:root -
start
Apr 30 21:40:58 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[251]: Print job aborted
Apr 30 21:40:59 biesalski npd[186]: PrintSpooler couldn't unlink
/usr/spool/NeXT/Local_Printer/cfA016biesalski: No such file or directory
Apr 30 21:41:08 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[254]: biesalski:root -
start
Apr 30 21:41:24 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[254]: Print job aborted
Apr 30 21:41:24 biesalski npd[186]: PrintSpooler couldn't unlink
/usr/spool/NeXT/Local_Printer/cfA017biesalski: No such file or directory
Apr 30 21:47:44 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[226]: biesalski:me -
start
Apr 30 22:03:35 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[226]: Unexpected
termination signal
Apr 30 22:05:32 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[273]: biesalski:root -
start
Apr 30 22:06:55 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[273]: Unexpected
termination signal
Apr 30 22:27:23 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[241]: biesalski:root -
start
Apr 30 22:27:53 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[241]: biesalski:root -
end
May 1 00:21:31 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[293]: biesalski:root -
start
May 1 00:22:35 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[293]: Unexpected
termination signal
May 1 00:26:53 biesalski Server:Local_Printer[221]: biesalski:root -
start
Wie kriegt man das wieder in den Griff? Wer weis Rat? Bereits jetzt
meinen herzlichen Dank.
Gruss Ernst
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: Anti-Windows Movie
Message-ID: <1998May1.005249.25181@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
Organization: INDIVIDUAL NETWORK Berlin
References: <6i4kfm$8n2$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> <3547279d.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <1998Apr29.170312.410@gamelan.okay.net>
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 00:52:49 GMT
Thomas F. Unke <thf00@hotmail.com> wrote:
:> Bester Film des Jahres (Besser als "Bill gets creamed")! Kommt besonders
: gut
:> wenn man ihn sich mit anderen Unix- und Mac-Leuten zusammen anschaut. :-)
: Vielleicht gebt Ihr mal uns Modem-Besitzern eine kleine Inhaltsangabe ?
Das laesst sich nicht beschreiben, das muss man selbst gesehen haben!! ;->
Am besten Du bestellst ein Exemplar der Apple-Werbespot-Movie-CD, die
die BeNG gerade auflegt. Da ist das Quicktime-Movie mit drauf...
(Infos zu der CD ueber Anke Ehlers <anke@anarcoma.in-berlin.de>)
Ingmar
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From: "Marcus Siemens" <ms-design@email.msn.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NeXT FAQ
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 12:58:47 +0200
Organization: Customer of UUNET Germany; Info: info@de.uu.net
Message-ID: <6ic9u8$2no$2@goof.de.uu.net>
Kann noch mal jemand die NeXT FAQ, ca. 320KB bereitstellen, oder kann man
die irgendwo downloaden?
Marcus
From: "Marcus Siemens" <ms-design@email.msn.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: d'ART und Buchhaltungssoftware
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 13:07:50 +0200
Organization: Customer of UUNET Germany; Info: info@de.uu.net
Message-ID: <6icah3$31b$1@goof.de.uu.net>
Was ist eigentlich aus der Firma d'ART und ihrer
Buchhaltungs-/Lagerverwaltungssoftware geworden? Hat die irgendjemand
übernommen?
From: insg@news.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Stefan Geisler)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Soundkarte fuer NS 3.3
Date: 1 May 1998 12:02:27 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der TU Clausthal
Message-ID: <6icdkj$jg5$1@methusalix.rz.tu-clausthal.de>
Hallo!
Welche der aktuell erhaeltlichen Soundkarten laeuft unter Nextstep 3.3 (intel)?
Wahrscheinlich ist die Frage schon viel zu oft hier gestellt worden, aber
vielleicht hat ja doch noch jemand Lust mir zu antworten.
Vielen Dank
Stefan.
Stefan.Geisler@tu-clausthal.de
From: Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Versenden von Email ueber CompuServ
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
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Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 14:24:38 -0400
Hilfe! Hilfe! Hilfe!
Ich kann keine Mail ueber CompuServe versenden! Nach um-
stellung auf POP3-Mailbox.
Ich bekomme beim Versenden folgende Fehlermeldung
Apr 17 23:16:13 nextrulze sendmail[221]: AA00252:
to=Lutz Kwasniok <drjekylandmrhyde@csi.com>, delay=1+03:11:52,
stat=Deferred: <root@nextrulze>... Unknown system error
Die domain lautet : compuserve.de
Der SMTP: smtp.site1.csi.com
senfmail.cf
FV|/usr/bin/uuname
internally
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DMether
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Vielen Dank im Vorraus
Lutz
Lutz Kwasniok
Germany
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: cmsg cancel <1998May1.005249.25181@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <1998May2.123318.13781@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 12:33:18 GMT
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.3 unoff BETA release 970930]
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From: buckaroo@blackbox.free.de (Mark Nowiasz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Eagle Linux auf NeXT (schwarz)?
Date: 2 May 1998 11:22:19 GMT
Organization: Blackbox - The Dark Site
Message-ID: <slrn6km0fb.foa.buckaroo@blackbox.free.de>
References: <1d7jpqf.9lho1i8bmstqN@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> <19980415214502391989@cantsin.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <6i49s1$j0b$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> <19980428115552277999@cantsin.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
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Florian Cramer <paragram@gmx.net> wrote:
>Ich habe nachgesehen - SuSE hat die Seite komplett geändert, vielleicht
>als Reaktion auf die Beschwerden im Usenet. Vorher standen dort
>fantastische Erklärungen, Eagle Linux laufe u.a. auf NeXT-Hardware,
>68k-Macs, Atari STs (!) und sogar Amiga 1200/2000.
Hmm, zu Amiga 1200/2000: IIRC gab/gibt es einen Patch für ein Unix
(ich glaube Netbsd oder Freebsd), der den Kernel patcht, daß er nicht
auf eine MMU angewiesen ist. Für Atari ST gibt es ein Unix,
nämlich Minix, daß auch keine MMU benötigt. Insofern halte ich es
eigentlich nicht für unmöglich, daß einLinux existieren könnte, daß
auf ST und Amiga (ohne MMU) läuft.
Gruß,
Mark
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From: paragram@gmx.net (Florian Cramer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Eagle Linux auf NeXT (schwarz)?
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 15:00:52 +0100
Organization: Permutations
Message-ID: <199805021500521273822@cantsin.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
References: <1d7jpqf.9lho1i8bmstqN@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> <19980415214502391989@cantsin.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <6i49s1$j0b$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> <19980428115552277999@cantsin.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <slrn6km0fb.foa.buckaroo@blackbox.free.de>
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Mark Nowiasz <buckaroo@blackbox.free.de> wrote:
> nämlich Minix, daß auch keine MMU benötigt. Insofern halte ich es
> eigentlich nicht für unmöglich, daß einLinux existieren könnte, daß
> auf ST und Amiga (ohne MMU) läuft.
Es wird sogar bereits entwickelt: <http://www.uk.linux.org/ELKS-Home/>.
Im übrigen ist Linus - historisch gesehen - aus Minix entstanden.
Bei der "Eagle Linux"-Debatte ging es allerdings, ich wiederhole mich,
um unhaltbare Werbeaussagen für eine kommerzielle Distribution des
altbewährten 68k-Linux.
Florian
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From: scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Anti-Windows Movie (Inhalt)
Date: 2 May 1998 19:13:09 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
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thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) wrote:
>In <3547279d.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Sven Droll wrote:
>
>
>Vielleicht gebt Ihr mal uns Modem-Besitzern eine kleine Inhaltsangabe ?
>
>
.. und nach vielen anderen Anfragen:
Der Film ist wie ein Werbespot aufgemacht, fuer ein billiges Produkt,
wie man es taeglich ab 00:00 in den Privaten erlebt: fuer Music-CDs.
4 Stuecke dieser 'WinSongs' werden dann als Video im Ausschnitt praesentiert.
Die Autoren singen selbst, und haben bekannte Titel umgetextet, bspw.
aus Killing Me Softly wurde: Killing my Software (with Windows), und anderes.
Das ganze geht so:
K-Cell and music-Cell proudly present WinSongs 95
Music to compute by
Imitations of Rock'n'Roll favorites
but we preserved the look and feel of the original
Winsongs 95 will help you while the hours of your
installations, configurations and reboots
WinSongs95 makes music easier and more powerful,
and what's more: it's compatible with your home stereo
(dann folgte ein Aufzaehlung unzaehliger PC-Anforderungen: latest
BIOS, extended Memory diabled files set at 20 or less, chkdsd /f
run from outside windows to fix all lost clusters, DMA buffer set to 128
32 bit disk access turned off, shadow RAM enabled, Numhandles set to 128,
RAMDRIVE.SYS set to 256 and loaded in extended memory)
WinSongs 95, where you hear classics such like How Much is That
Doggy they call windows (Snoop Doggy Dogg), I got you bob (Sony and Cher)
You ain't nothin' but a CISC Chip (Elvis), Highway to Dell (AC/DC), Amazing
Gates (jimmy Swaggert) Stand By your manual (Tammy Wynette), 16 Megs and What
Do you get (Tennessee Ernie Ford) What's Bill Got To Do With It (Tina
Turner),
You've Lost That Lovin'Password (The Righteous Brothers) and You Can't Use
This (Mc Hammer)
(zuletzt genannter Song wird dann eingespielt. Der umgetextete Song lautet:
You can't use this, you can't use this ...
Windows still is so hard
cause it's built on a house of cards
What is this C prompt here?
Wanna cover my eyes and plug my ears
It's slow, and that's no lie
It's about as much fun as watching paint dry
Beware, if you've got a short fuse
cause it's the kind of system you can't use
I told you homeboy ...
You can't use this
Find me the receipt man..
I can't use this
Tech support still busy ...
I can't use this
Gimme the instruction manual
I can't use this
PowerPoint and Windows, Office and NT
I might like 'em better, after my lobotomy
(dann geht der Spot wieder weiter:)
when you edit your system registry, you might be humming:
It's my PC and I'll Cry If I want to (Leslie Gore), but who
hasn'T experienced: Killing me Softly with Windows (Roberta Flack)
(weiter aufgefuehrt Title, die als Werbung durchrollen: My Suite Lord
(George Harrison), Mac in The USSR (The Beatles), You'r no good (Windows95)
(Linda Ronstadt), It's So easy (to use a mac) (Linda Ronstadt)
Danach singt eine Dame in Weissen Kostuem mit Lila-Boa for einem
Springbrunnen
Killing me softly with Windows und tritt demonstrativ Excel und Word in
die Fluten:
I tried to run my programs
with Windows 95
8 megs is recommended
but I've got only five!
So there it was, my system,
completely obsoleted,
Typing path names with my fingers
cursing out loud at my mouse
Killing my software with windows
killing my software, with windows (Excel und Word, sterben im Wasser)
Needing more disk space, with Windows,
Needing new programs, with Windows.
Es geht weiter:
Who could forget the ever popular: where Have All My drivers gone? (Peter
Paul & Mary) and: By The Time I Get To Cairo (Glen Campell), and don't
forget your hanky, because you'll cry if you hear: Tears of a clone (Smokey
Robinson and the Mircles) (weiter aufgefuehrte titel: Eight Megs A Week (The
Beatles), These Disks Were Made For Crashin' (Nancy Sinatra), All You Need Is
A Mac (The Beatles), I Fought The Mac And The Mac Won (Bryan Adams), 50 ways
to leave your Compaq (Paul Simon), Stairway to Redmond (Led Zeppelin),
(Song wird eingespielt, wobei der Sänger als Bill Gates for einer Leinwand
tanzt auf der der Windows-Logo Screenblanker projeziert wird:)
. oh yeah Gates, ey ..
Well if there's a smile, upon my face
It's only there trying to fool the public
Cause when I started to use Windows
I had to master the whole DOS subject (haelt Buch DOS for Dummies hoch)
but don't let Windows expression
give you the wrong impression
cause DOS is still there (Demo am PC mit System.ini, etc.)
ooh, It makes me so scared
I work, but I can't get nowhere (die Anspielung versteht wohl jeder, oder?)
cause those pathnames (Requester: Directory name is invalid), make me pull my
hair
Well there's some sad things,
knonw to Manzi (haelt Jim Manzi Artikel hoch)
They ain't too much sadder than
The tears of a clone (PC monitor weint)
Don't try it home alone (bild Software Artikel mit Kevin Allein ZuHause wird
gezeigt)
(und weiter gehts...)
If you lived during the seventies, you remember How Do You Mend A Packard
Bell (The Bee Gees), but you haven't lived until you heard I Want A Mac
(Michael Jackson) (weiter aufgefuehrte Titel: I Left My Wallet In Redmond
Washington (Tony Bennet), This Lan Is Your Lan (Peter, Paul & Mary), Booting
Up Is Hard To DO (Neil Sedaka), Tie A SCSI Cable 'Round The OLD PC (Tony
Orlando and Dawn)
(Nun tanzt Michael Jackson in bekannter Manier for einem Software Laden,
bekommt einen PC und will ihn kurz darauf dem Verkaeufer wieder, geben,
der lehnt aber ab):
oh, ho ha, let met tell you now:
When I bought this new PC,
I patted my own back,
I heard it was the latest thing,
It looked just like a Mac
But when I tried to make it work,
It wouldn't do a thing,
Pressed CONTROL-ALT-DELETE so much,
My Arm is in a sling (traegt gebrochenen Arm in Schlinge)
(Chor in Klammern)
Oh dealer give me one more chance (to return Windows)
Won't you please let me in (exchange it for a Mac)
Oh dealer I was blind to Window's Pains (beauty's only screen deep)
But now that I try to get work done (I want a Mac)
Oh I do now (I want a Mac (Mac 8100 wird herausgeschoben)
Smooth transition (I want a Mac)
Risc Chip, too now (I want a Mac)
Speech Recognition ...
(und wieder weiter:)
Call now, operators are standing by to take your credit card number
and automatically download your home stereo configuration, list of
installed CD's, mother's maiden name, bank account balance, frequent flyer
miles, drivers licence numbers, credit card numbers, sociel security number,
MCI Friends & Family, Licence plate number, Shoe size, blood type, block
buster video account number, SAT score, and much much more. And also we
can better support your music listening pleassure, call 1-900-RICH BILL
(for technical support call your home stereo manufacturer). WinSongs 95,
it makes a crown man cry.
(Ende, MacOS Logo und Apple Logo nebeneinander), Abspann.
Fuer die Rechtschreibfehler entschuldige ich mich jetzt mal nicht,
war schon genug Stress das abzutippen :-)
Als Dankeschoen duerft Ihr alle eine Peanuts-CD bestellen :-)
Viele Gruesse,
Bernhard.
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From: scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
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"Marcus Siemens" <ms-design@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Kann noch mal jemand die NeXT FAQ, ca. 320KB bereitstellen, oder kann man
>die irgendwo downloaden?
http://www.peanuts.org/
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData/...
Gruesse,
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From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger)
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In <6icdkj$jg5$1@methusalix.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Stefan Geisler wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> Welche der aktuell erhaeltlichen Soundkarten laeuft unter Nextstep 3.3 (intel)?
Hier läuft eine SB16.
>
> Wahrscheinlich ist die Frage schon viel zu oft hier gestellt worden, aber
> vielleicht hat ja doch noch jemand Lust mir zu antworten.
Wenn Du das weißt, wie wäre es mit einem Blick auf DejaNews oder die
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In <1998May1.005249.25181@aurora.in-berlin.de> Ingmar Camphausen wrote:
> Am besten Du bestellst ein Exemplar der Apple-Werbespot-Movie-CD, die
> die BeNG gerade auflegt. Da ist das Quicktime-Movie mit drauf...
> (Infos zu der CD ueber Anke Ehlers <anke@anarcoma.in-berlin.de>)
Kann man die am Montag schon kaufen ?
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Florian Cramer <paragram@gmx.net> wrote:
> Im übrigen ist Linus - historisch gesehen - aus Minix entstanden.
Erstaunt. Dachte seine Eltern hießen Thorwald;also tatsächlich so ein
schlampertes Gschichterl wie bei den alten Göttergriechen, wenn das
rauskommt ;-)
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lui <luifri@atnet.co.at> wrote:
> Florian Cramer <paragram@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> > Im übrigen ist Linus - historisch gesehen - aus Minix entstanden.
>
> Erstaunt. Dachte seine Eltern hießen Thorwald;also tatsächlich so ein
Linux, sorry ;-) [Die Tasten liegen zu nah bei einander.]
Florian
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From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
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Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM <scholzb@peanuts.org> wrote:
> thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) wrote:
> >Vielleicht gebt Ihr mal uns Modem-Besitzern eine kleine Inhaltsangabe ?
> .. und nach vielen anderen Anfragen:
Danke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So beim Lesen habe ich einige Anspielungen bemerkt, die mir beim Zusehen
völlig entgangen waren.
Das Video ist übrigens schon älter; ich habe es von jemandem bekommen, der es
von der HIP '97 vorigen Sommer mitbrachte. Angeblich kam es von Apples
Webserver, wurde aber dort kurz nach dem Aktienkauf durch MS entfernt.
[...]
> Danach singt eine Dame in Weissen Kostuem mit Lila-Boa for einem
> Springbrunnen
> Killing me softly with Windows und tritt demonstrativ Excel und Word in
> die Fluten:
Meinem Eindruck nach ist das immer derselbe Sänger - auch besagte Dame.
Gruß,
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Olaf Foellinger <ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> wrote:
:> Am besten Du bestellst ein Exemplar der Apple-Werbespot-Movie-CD, die
:> die BeNG gerade auflegt. Da ist das Quicktime-Movie mit drauf...
...
: Kann man die am Montag schon kaufen ?
Sorry, nein, da hatte ich irgendetwas missverstanden: Auf dem vorigen
BeNG-Treffen wurde dieses Movie (neben den aktuellen Apple-Werbespots
"Snail" und "Toasted") lediglich *gezeigt*.
Eine *BeNG*-CD mit dem Film wird es *nicht* geben. - Aber auf der
neuesten Auflage der *Peanuts*-CDs ist das Movie ja wohl enthalten. :)
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In de.comp.os.linux.hardware Mark Nowiasz <buckaroo@blackbox.free.de> wrot=
e:
> auf eine MMU angewiesen ist. F=FCr Atari ST gibt es ein Unix,
> n=E4mlich Minix, da=DF auch keine MMU ben=F6tigt. Insofern halte ich es
Minix gibts nicht nur f=FCr Atari ST, sondern auch fuer _alle_ Amigas (naj=
a,
IMHO hatte der 68040 mit Minix Probleme) und PC XTs (!) und h=F6her. Ich h=
abe
das PC Minix auf einem 286 Laptop laufen. Es geht...
> eigentlich nicht f=FCr unm=F6glich, da=DF einLinux existieren k=F6nnte, =
da=DF
> auf ST und Amiga (ohne MMU) l=E4uft.
Linux wurde erst vor kurzem zum Flat Memory Modell eines standard 68000
portiert, im wesentlichen um es auf den PalmPilot (enth=E4lt einen 68000
Microcontroller) zu verwenden. Aber das ist noch ein bischen weit weg, um
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Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de> wrote:
>Olaf Foellinger <ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> wrote:
>
>:> Am besten Du bestellst ein Exemplar der Apple-Werbespot-Movie-CD, die
>:> die BeNG gerade auflegt. Da ist das Quicktime-Movie mit drauf...
>....
>: Kann man die am Montag schon kaufen ?
>
>Sorry, nein, da hatte ich irgendetwas missverstanden: Auf dem vorigen
>BeNG-Treffen wurde dieses Movie (neben den aktuellen Apple-Werbespots
>"Snail" und "Toasted") lediglich *gezeigt*.
>
>Eine *BeNG*-CD mit dem Film wird es *nicht* geben. - Aber auf der
>neuesten Auflage der *Peanuts*-CDs ist das Movie ja wohl enthalten. :)
>
Sorry, leider nein. Die neueste Peanuts-CD wurde leider vor diesem
Filmchen produziert. Ein Inhalt der CD ist ueber unsere Web-Seiten
einsehbar.
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rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll) wrote:
>> Danach singt eine Dame in Weissen Kostuem mit Lila-Boa for einem
>> Springbrunnen
>> Killing me softly with Windows und tritt demonstrativ Excel und Word in
>> die Fluten:
>
>Meinem Eindruck nach ist das immer derselbe Sänger - auch besagte Dame.
>
Oh, dann aber sehr gut verkleidet. Im Abspann zumindest werden auch
ein par weibliche Wesen genannt, so dass ich annahm, es waeren mehrere.
Naja, wer weiss,
Bernhard.
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Eagle Linux auf NeXT (schwarz)?
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 18:23:05 +0200
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Klaus Rotter <rotter@sz0423.dialin.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
> Minix gibts nicht nur für Atari ST, sondern auch fuer _alle_ Amigas (naja,
> IMHO hatte der 68040 mit Minix Probleme) und PC XTs (!) und höher. Ich habe
> das PC Minix auf einem 286 Laptop laufen. Es geht...
Minix gibt's auch für MacOS, wo es praktisch eine Applikation unter
vielen ist.
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From: paragram@gmx.net (Florian Cramer)
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Subject: Minix und Linux, war: Re: Eagle Linux auf NeXT (schwarz)?
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 17:48:09 +0100
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Klaus Rotter <rotter@sz0423.dialin.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
> Interesannt, Linus ist also ein KI Projekt, das noch dazu auf Minix aufbaut.
> :-)
Die s- und x-Taste liegen leider nahe beieinander...
> Aber ich denke, wenn Du sagst, das Linu_x_ (wenn auch historisch) aus Minix
> enstanden ist, tust Du Linu_s_ keinen Gefallen. IMHO kannte Linu_s_ Minix
Fakt ist, daß das Linux-Projekt von Linu_s_ Torvalds in comp.os.minix
initiert wurde, und zwar mit dem ursprünglichen Wunsch eines
POSIX-konformen Minix. Anfangs baute Linux auf Minix-Code auf, ist also
streng historisch gesehen ein "Minix-Derivat". Das Minix-Filesystem
(Linux-Standard vor ext/ext2) unterstützt Linux noch heute.
> recht gut, aber Linu_x_ hat ja nicht mal das Grundkonzept mit Minix
> gemeinsam (o.k. sie versuchen beide ein *IX zu implementieren, aber wenn
> auch auf sehr verschiedene Weise. Microkernel vs. Monolithisches System.)
Deswegen hat Tanenbaum auch einmal eine harte Polemik gegen Linus und
das Linux-Kerneldesign losgelassen, Tenor: als Tanenbaums Student würde
Torvalds nicht einmal ein "befriedigend" für seine Arbeit bekommen...
Florian
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Druckerprobleme Next Laserdrucker
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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 11:11:00 GMT
In article <1d8brai.v8fyh01246sykN@hh12a.vnet.de> >
Ernst_Biesalski@magicvillage.de (Ernst Biesalski) writes:
> Guten Tag,
>
> bei mir gibt es ein Problem beim Drucken. Aus heiterem Himmel faengt der
> Drucker an, alle Ausdrucke komplett schwarz einzufaerben mit vier
> weissen Streifen im Abstand von ca. 1 cm zueinander am Beginn der Seite.
> Was kann das sein?
>
> Nach einigem herumexperimentieren hab ich nun den Eindruck, das der
> Druckjob gestartet, aber nicht beendet wird. Nach dem Ausdruck einer
> solchen "schwarzen Seite" lassen sich ersteinmal keine weiteren Drucke
> starten. In der Druckerschlage des PrintManager bleibt der
> eingeschwaerzte Ausdruck drinne. In /usr/spool//NeXT/LocalPrinter stehen
> nach dem Druckvorgang ausser den ueblichen Dateien "lock", "status" und
> ".seq" auch noch eine Datei "cfA025biesalski".
> Die Datei "lock" hat den Eintrag
> 221
> cfA025biesalski
>
> Die Datei "status" hat den Eintrag
> Printing
>
> Folgende Fehlermeldungen tauchen dann auf:
>
Mein erster Gedanke war "eine alte Toner-Patrone", aber beim weiterlesen
sieht mir das eher wie ein Protokollfehler der Druckerschnittstelle aus.
Hardware? Kabel?
Man braeuchte Moeglichkeiten alternative Hardware fuer ein
kombinatorisches Auschlussverfahren anschliessen zu koennen...
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Subject: Re: Minix und Linux, war: Re: Eagle Linux auf NeXT (schwarz)?
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On Sun, 3 May 1998 17:48:09 +0100, Florian Cramer <paragram@gmx.net> wrote:
>Klaus Rotter <rotter@sz0423.dialin.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
>
>> recht gut, aber Linu_x_ hat ja nicht mal das Grundkonzept mit Minix
>> gemeinsam (o.k. sie versuchen beide ein *IX zu implementieren, aber wenn
>> auch auf sehr verschiedene Weise. Microkernel vs. Monolithisches System.)
>
>Deswegen hat Tanenbaum auch einmal eine harte Polemik gegen Linus und
>das Linux-Kerneldesign losgelassen, Tenor: als Tanenbaums Student würde
>Torvalds nicht einmal ein "befriedigend" für seine Arbeit bekommen...
>
Fakt ist aber, daß Linu_x_ (neue Schreibweise beachten!) trotz konzeptioneller
Schwächen (die da wären *neugier*) und anderer (kleiner) Fehler (...)
von Linu_s_ so weit gebracht wurde, daß man damit arbeiten kann.
Was nützen exzellente Konzepte, wenn sie auf Grund ihrer Komplexität
nie in einen anwendungsfertigen Zustand gebracht werden.
Ich habe auch häufig das Problem, daß man am hundertsten und tausendsten
scheitert und nie was draus wird, weil ich mit *Perfektionsanspruch*
(und viel zu hoch gesetzten (Anfangs-)Zielen) auf etwas losgehe.
Ja. ja.
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From: Ernst_Biesalski@magicvillage.de (Ernst Biesalski)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Druckerprobleme Next Laserdrucker
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 13:41:49 +0200
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Peter Nitezki <Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org> wrote:
> Mein erster Gedanke war "eine alte Toner-Patrone",
Das kann gut sein. Bevor die beschriebenen Probleme auftauchten, habe
ich eine neue Kartusche eingebaut, und zwar eine "Original Laser Care
Pfandkartusche" von Staples.
Die erste Kartusche wurde anstandlos umgetauscht, nachdem ich mit einem
Ausdruck und der Kartusche hinmarschiert bin. Die zweite funktioniert
aber genauso wie die erste. Mal geht es, mal geht es nicht.
> Hardware? Kabel?
> Man braeuchte Moeglichkeiten alternative Hardware fuer ein
> kombinatorisches Auschlussverfahren anschliessen zu koennen...
Tja, wenn das so einfach waere. Es gibt eine NeXT Station (Black) und
den einen Drucker (auch Black). Sonst habe ich nichts an anderer
Hardware zum testen.
> Protokollfehler der Druckerschnittstelle
Was schreibt die Druckerschnittstelle eigentlich wohin? Bei derartigen
Sachen bin ich ein absoluter Laie aber auch ein sehr neugieriger. Was
braucht man, um hier weiterzukommen? Denn irgendwann moechte ich wieder
drucken.
BTW, kann es auch daran liegen, dass der Papierauswurf nicht richtig
funktioniert. Die hinteren Roellchen drehen sich nicht mehr beim
Drucken, so dass die letzten 1,5 cm Papier aus dem Drucker gezogen
werden muessen, damit kein Papierstau angezeigt wird. Das hatte ich
schon einmal aber da druckte das Geraet einwandfrei weiter.
Ernst
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: d'ART und Buchhaltungssoftware
Date: 4 May 1998 13:28:57 GMT
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"Marcus Siemens" <ms-design@email.msn.com> wrote:
>Was ist eigentlich aus der Firma d'ART und ihrer
>Buchhaltungs-/Lagerverwaltungssoftware geworden? Hat die irgendjemand
>übernommen?
Ich habe mal was neues angefaengen, aber habe z. Z. zuviel mit bezahlten
Projekten zu tun.
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: Re: NeXT FAQ
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In <6ifrh2$87t$2@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM
wrote:
> "Marcus Siemens" <ms-design@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >Kann noch mal jemand die NeXT FAQ, ca. 320KB bereitstellen, oder kann man
> >die irgendwo downloaden?
>
> http://www.peanuts.org/
> ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/GeneralData/...
Eine reine ASCII-Variante steht aus unter
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU.
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
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Subject: permission denied - obwohl root?
Date: 5 May 1998 05:12:49 GMT
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Moin!
Ich moechte natuerlich auch gewisse Applikationen/Dienste oder was auch immer
auslösen, wenn ich eine TCP/IP-Verbindung habe und habe mir diesbezüglich die
sehr gute Beschreibung in GateKeeper und der WING/NEXTTOYOU [(jaaaaa, sie
sind daaaa :)))) fress´ auf <g>] durchgelesen, aber ich habe da ein kleines
Problemchen:
Zustand:
1. Eingebunden habe ich folgendes in die ip-up
# angesammelte Mail aus Mailqueue im Hintergrund versenden
(/usr/lib/sendmail -q) &
# neue MailTIFFs holen
/usr/local/bin/fetchMailTIFFs | logger -p local4.notice -t fetchMailTIFFs -i
[Ich habe auch "neue MailTIFFs holen" schon einmal mit # deaktiviert, um dem
problem auf dem Grund zu kommen...]
2. Wenn GateKeeper eine Vebrindung aufbaut, klappt eigentlich alles
(IP-Adresse, Mailversand, News usw. usw.), jedoch eine Errormelldung (auch
unter root) stört mich:
May 5 08:07:41 columbus pppd[311]: Setting interface mask to 255.255.255.0
May 5 08:07:41 columbus pppd[315]: Can't execute /etc/ppp/ip-up: Permission
denied
May 5 08:08:10 columbus pppd[311]: CCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Was bittesehr ist das? Die Anweisung GateKepper (nicht .app) zu flaggen, das
es so tut als ob immer root- die Aktion ausführt brachte leider nichts.
Ausserdem stört mich die CCP-Errormeldung auch etwas....
Für Hilfe immer dankbar.
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From: ob@obh.snafu.de (Oliver Brandmueller)
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Subject: Re: permission denied - obwohl root?
Date: 5 May 1998 07:43:26 GMT
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jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) writes:
>May 5 08:07:41 columbus pppd[315]: Can't execute /etc/ppp/ip-up: Permission denied
Bist Du sicher, dass /etc/ppp/ip-up executable ist? Du solltest als erste
Zeile dort
#! /bin/sh
drin haben und es muss (zB auf der Shell mit chmod 755 /etc/ppp/ip-up)
executable sein.
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
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Subject: Re: permission denied - obwohl root?
Date: 5 May 1998 07:35:26 GMT
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Joerg Sievers (jogi2@vossnet.de) wrote:
: Moin!
Hummel, Hummel, ...?
: [...]
: 2. Wenn GateKeeper eine Vebrindung aufbaut, klappt eigentlich alles
: (IP-Adresse, Mailversand, News usw. usw.), jedoch eine Errormelldung (auch
: unter root) stört mich:
:
: May 5 08:07:41 columbus pppd[311]: Setting interface mask to 255.255.255.0
: May 5 08:07:41 columbus pppd[315]: Can't execute /etc/ppp/ip-up:
: Permission denied
: May 5 08:08:10 columbus pppd[311]: CCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
:
: Was bittesehr ist das? Die Anweisung GateKepper (nicht .app) zu flaggen,
: das es so tut als ob immer root- die Aktion ausführt brachte leider nichts.
Ich habe 'meine' Konfiguration nicht hier, aber ich vermute, dass
/etc/ppp/ip-up ohne ein 'sh' davor aufgerufen wird. dann muss es aber
selbes e'x'ecutable sein (a la r-xr-xr-x oder so). Ist's das nicht, helfen
auch keine Root-Rechte. Auch wenn's fuer den 'Owner' nicht executable
ist (r--r-xr-x) hilft's nichts, selbst wenn der 'Owner' Mitglied von
'group' oder (selbstverstaenlich) others/world ist; seltsam, aber so
ist die UNIX-Festlegung. Also evtl. darauf mal 'abklappern'.
:
: Ausserdem stört mich die CCP-Errormeldung auch etwas....
Krieg' ich aber auch immer, weil die Gegenstelle nicht alle Configs
durchfuehrt, was entweder an einem fehlerhaften Protokoll des NS/OS
ppp oder der Gegenstelle liegt. Vermutlich erstes. Es ist aber laut
Protokoll erlaubt, dass gewisse Configs nicht durchgefuehrt werden.
Sie sollten dann wenigstens abgelehnt werden, was aber auch nicht
immer der Fall ist.
Dann kommen noch 'Timeouts' und/oder/durch zu schnelle/zu wenige
Retries in Frage (Thema: Line Control Protokoll (lcp)). Kann man alles
im ppp-Skript (pppup, ppp.options?) einstellen und dann ausprobieren.
:
: Für Hilfe immer dankbar.
Tja, leider sind Ferndiagnosen nicht einfach :-).
Gruss,
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From: r.sokoll@intershop.de (Rainer Sokoll)
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Subject: Re: permission denied - obwohl root?
Date: 5 May 1998 08:59:07 GMT
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
> May 5 08:07:41 columbus pppd[311]: Setting interface mask to 255.255.255.0
Bei einer PPP-Verbindung sollte das Interface eine Netzmaske 255.255.255.255
haben.
Gruß,
Rainer
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
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Subject: Re: permission denied - obwohl root?
Date: 5 May 1998 23:21:10 GMT
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jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) wrote:
> 2. Wenn GateKeeper eine Vebrindung aufbaut, klappt eigentlich alles
> (IP-Adresse, Mailversand, News usw. usw.), jedoch eine Errormelldung (auch
> unter root) stört mich:
>
> May 5 08:07:41 columbus pppd[311]: Setting interface mask to 255.255.255.0
Ok.
> May 5 08:07:41 columbus pppd[315]: Can't execute /etc/ppp/ip-up:
> Permission denied
Dann ist keine ausführbare Datei (d.h., Du siehst ein Text-Icon, kein
UNIX-Icon, stimmt's?)
> May 5 08:08:10 columbus pppd[311]: CCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Diese Meldung laesst sich leider nicht verhindern, ist aber harmlos.
Tschau
Uli
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: permission denied - obwohl root?
Date: 6 May 1998 04:27:48 GMT
Organization: DX-Team - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
Message-ID: <6ioos4$usf$1@news.vossnet.de>
References: <6im74h$ph$1@news.vossnet.de> <6imffu$hie10@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
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Moin!
Dank an Dich und die anderen fuer die schnelle Antwort ...
In <6imffu$hie10@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> H.-R. Oberhage wrote:
> Hummel, Hummel, ...?
:-))) Mors, Mors!
> Ich habe 'meine' Konfiguration nicht hier, aber ich vermute, dass
> /etc/ppp/ip-up ohne ein 'sh' davor aufgerufen wird. dann muss es aber
> selbes e'x'ecutable sein (a la r-xr-xr-x oder so).
Ich habe ip-up executable gemacht....und da lief es...grummel bin ich bloed.
Ulli´s Artikel hat mich drauf gebracht....hatte mal Zeit näher zuu stöbern...
> Krieg' ich aber auch immer, weil die Gegenstelle nicht alle Configs
Bin ich wenigstens nicht der einzige :)
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From: peter.krauss@e-technik.tu-muenchen.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Apple Technologietage
Date: 7 May 1998 08:04:27 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
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Ich habe gerade die Termine fuer die Apple Technologietage bekommen:
15.6.98 Muenchen N1070, TU Muenchen, Eingang Theresienstrasse 16:00 - 21:00
16.6.98 Berlin H 2053, Hauptgebaeude der TU Berlin, 2. Stock 15:00€-€19:00
17.6.98 Hamburg Geomatikum, H2, Universitaet Hamburg 16:00€-€21:00
18.6.98 Dortmund Universitaet Dortmund, HS 6, Hoersaalgebaeude 1 13:00€-€19:00
19.6.98 Stuttgart HS 1702, Universitaet Stuttgart 10:30€-€13:00
27/28.5.98 Wien / Hauptuniversitaet ??
27/28.5.98 Linz ??
Der Muenchner Text der Einladung lautet:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
APPLE TECHNOLOGIETAG AN DER TECHNISCHEN UNIVERSIT…T MšNCHEN
Am 15. Juni 1998 veranstaltet Apple an der Technischen UniversitÙt Mönchen einen Technologie-Tag mit dem Ziel, Apple-Anwender und -Interessierten sowie Entwickler im Forschung & Lehre-Umfeld gleich im Anschluû an die Worldwide Developers Conference in Kalifornien aktuell öber die neuesten Technologie-Trends zu informieren.
Inhalte werden sein:
* Aktuelles zur Systemstrategie
MacOS zukönftige Entwicklung
Rhapsody
Yellow Box
Java
Apple Script
* Multimedia-Technologie
* Internet & WWW
AppleShare IP
WebObjects
* Hardware
PowerPC Zukunft
DVD
USB
FireWire
Veranstaltungsort:
15.6. Mönchen, N1070, TU Mönchen, Eingang Theresienstrasse 16:00 - 21:00 Uhr
Wir freuen uns öber jeden, der kommt.
Aktuelle Informationen finden Sie jederzeit auch im Internet unter
www.apple.de/education
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gruss
peter.krauss@e-technik.tu-muenchen.de
From: cenk@trytec.bo.uunet.de (Cenk Suavi)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Riva 128
Date: 7 May 1998 14:47:15 GMT
Organization: TryTec! Microsystems
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Ich brauche einen Treiber für den Chip Riva 128
kann mir einer Tips geben wo ich das herbekomme?
Danke
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mailto: suavi@trytec.bo.uunet.de http://www.trytec.de
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Zahlenmüll in MIME-Mails?
Date: 7 May 1998 22:23:13 GMT
Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center
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Hi,
ich kriege zur Zeit öfters MIME-Mails von einem OPENSTEP 4.2-Benutzer, dei
regelmäßig mit einem Zahlenkauderwelsch beginnen (nach dem Header, vor dem
Body) so wie diesem:
040b73747265616d747970656481a203840163c4840373737300814c4c819b9c84012584097f4
11b33312e352d34
Weiß jemand, woran das liegt, und wie man das abstellen kann?
Danke!
Tschau
Uli
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: mbr cleanen
Date: 8 May 1998 05:27:07 GMT
Organization: DX-Team - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Moin!
Im MBR auf der NeXT-Pladde ist ja der Bootmanager von NeXTStep verankert...
Mit einem FDISK /MBR (IMHO) koennte man den wegloeschen, ohne die Pladde zu
zerschiessen, jedoch - wie empfindlich wuerde NeXTStep darauf reagieren?
Ich benutze den OS/2-Bootmanager, der erst hochkommt, wenn der von NeXT meint
NeXT booten zu muessen :)
Jemand schon aehnliches veranstaltet?
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From: rubsamen@pro-audio.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: komplette TurboDimenion zu verkaufen
Date: 8 May 1998 07:01:14 GMT
Organization: PROLINK GbRmbH
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Hi,
ich habe eine perfekt augestattete TurboDimension anzubieten:
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1 x 2,1 GB IBM DORS (3/4 Jahr alt)
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1 x MetaResearch DigitalEars (hervorragender Zustand)
1 x NeXT Soundbox
1 x NeXT ADB USA Tastatur
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+ so ziemlich alles an Software, was es je fuer die NeXT gegeben hat. (z.B.
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From: Olaf Foellinger <of@bln.sesa.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: mbr cleanen
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 09:53:53 +0200
Organization: Unlimited Surprise Systems, Berlin
Message-ID: <3552BA11.93D05EDE@bln.sesa.de>
References: <6iu53b$ju8$1@news.vossnet.de>
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To: Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de>
Joerg Sievers schrieb:
>
> Moin!
>
> Im MBR auf der NeXT-Pladde ist ja der Bootmanager von NeXTStep verankert...
> Mit einem FDISK /MBR (IMHO) koennte man den wegloeschen, ohne die Pladde zu
> zerschiessen, jedoch - wie empfindlich wuerde NeXTStep darauf reagieren?
Kein Problem, habe ich auch so gemacht. Der OS/2-Bootmanager kann dann
auch NextStep starten, sofern es auf der ersten Platte liegt. Je nach
Betriebssystem kann der Befehl auch 'fdisk /newmbr' heißen, ber welcher
von beiden OS/2 und welcher DOS ist...
Gruß Olaf
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Mail Adressen
Date: 8 May 1998 07:50:12 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <6iudfk$ce@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
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Hallo,
wo speichert Mail.app die Adressen von "Benutzer (privat)"?
--
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Druckerprobleme Next Laserdrucker
Date: 8 May 1998 08:14:25 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6iuet1$dk42@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <1d8brai.v8fyh01246sykN@hh12a.vnet.de> <EsDoEC.IDM@nidat.sub.org> <1d8ia70.1hnjwwuy37qt4N@hh21a.vnet.de>
Ernst Biesalski (Ernst_Biesalski@magicvillage.de) wrote:
: Peter Nitezki <Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org> wrote:
: [...]
: > Protokollfehler der Druckerschnittstelle
:
: Was schreibt die Druckerschnittstelle eigentlich wohin? Bei derartigen
: Sachen bin ich ein absoluter Laie aber auch ein sehr neugieriger. Was
: braucht man, um hier weiterzukommen? Denn irgendwann moechte ich wieder
: drucken.
Beim NeXT-Laser werden nur 'rohe Pixeldaten' vom NeXT-Computer an den
Laserdrucker uebergeben. Falls das was ich zu wissen glaube richtig ist,
muss der Transfer in 'Echtzeit' fuer jede Zeile vor sich gehen, da der
Drucker weder 'Rechen-/Raster-image-processing (RIP) Kapazitaet' noch viel
Speicher hat. Das Bild wird vom Computer aufbereitet und dann pixel-
zeilen-weise per 'DMA (direct memory access)'-Transfer vom Computer-
speicher in den Druckerspeicher uebertragen. Die Schnittstelle hat sonst
nur Signale zum Ein- und Ausschalten des Druckers und fuer (Fehler-)
Rueckmeldungen.
Vorteil: Die Maschine uebernimmt die Aufbereitung, d.h. auch mit
PostScript Version 10.0 koennte noch gedruckt werden, wenn jemand den
Code fuer den Computer erstellt (- unwahrscheinlich bei der jetzigen
Apple-Politik). Der Drucker kann 'dumm' bleiben, ohne 'zu veralten'.
Nachteil: Man kenn den Drucker praktisch an keinen anderen Computer
anschliessen, da die Schnittstelle und ihr Protokoll proprietaer ist
und der Drucker eben 'dumm' ist.
:
: BTW, kann es auch daran liegen, dass der Papierauswurf nicht richtig
: funktioniert. Die hinteren Roellchen drehen sich nicht mehr beim
: Drucken, so dass die letzten 1,5 cm Papier aus dem Drucker gezogen
: werden muessen, damit kein Papierstau angezeigt wird. Das hatte ich
: schon einmal aber da druckte das Geraet einwandfrei weiter.
Das ist ein bekannter (gefuerchteter) Fehler beim NeXT-Laser. Normaler-
weise ist dann ein kleines Zahnrad an der 'Fuser-Einheit' defekt (ab-
genutzt, ein Zahn/mehrere Zaehne fehlen oder sind gebrochen). Das Zahnrad
ist 'offiziell' nicht nachzukriegen und auch die in Deutschland NeXT-
Produkte reparierende Firma Sorbus in Duesseldorf hat weder originale
Zahnraeder noch ganze Fuser-Einheiten - das war bisher die Reparatur:
Austausch dieser Einheit. Weder die Teile noch die Firma kann man als
billig bezeichnen, ob als preiswert ist eine Geschmacksfrage; denn sie
versucht auch heute noch, diese Maschinen wieder in Gang zu bringen.
(Mit anderen Teilen und Massnahmen.) Ausserdem hat es in dieser Group
schon diverse Diskussionen um die Zahnraeder, ihre Ersatzbeschaffung
oder Fertigung gegeben. Wie der derzeitige Stand dazu ist, weiss ich
nicht. Die alten Diskussionen kann man im Archiv nachlesen.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Mail Adressen
Date: 8 May 1998 08:17:29 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6iuf2p$dk43@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6iudfk$ce@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Juergen Grieb (juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de) wrote:
: Hallo,
:
: wo speichert Mail.app die Adressen von "Benutzer (privat)"?
In ~/.NeXT/.mailalias (oder ~/.OpenStep/.mailalias).
Ruediger
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From: dirk@object-factory.com (Dirk Olmes)
Newsgroups: de.markt.arbeit.angebote,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: Softwareentwickler, Unix, WebObjects
Date: 8 May 1998 10:05:02 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
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From: no.spam@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede)
Subject: Re: Zahlenmüll in MIME-Mails?
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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 09:56:02 GMT
Mail-Copies-To: always
In article <6itc8h$1ts@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>,
uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote:
> ich kriege zur Zeit öfters MIME-Mails von einem OPENSTEP 4.2-Benutzer, dei
> regelmäßig mit einem Zahlenkauderwelsch beginnen (nach dem Header, vor dem
> Body) so wie diesem:
>
> 040b73747265616d747970656481a203840163c4840373737300814c4c819b9c84012584097f4
> 11b33312e352d34
>
> Weiß jemand, woran das liegt, und wie man das abstellen kann?
Riecht stark nach einer Headerzeile, die fälschlich umgebrochen wird und
somit in den Body rutscht. Es könnte sich auch um eine MIME-Boundary
handeln, die nicht erkannt (vielleicht auch wegen eines überzähligen
Umbruchs) und deswegen dargestellt wird.
Behebung? Mmh, keine besonderen Ideen, vielleicht mal in den Header
schauen, was da als MIME-Delimiter angegeben wird.
Markus Gloede
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Zahlenmüll in MIME-Mails?
Date: 8 May 1998 14:35:36 GMT
Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center
Message-ID: <6iv57o$1nc@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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no.spam@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede) wrote:
> In article <6itc8h$1ts@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>,
> uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote:
>
> > ich kriege zur Zeit öfters MIME-Mails von einem OPENSTEP 4.2-Benutzer, dei
> > regelmäßig mit einem Zahlenkauderwelsch beginnen (nach dem Header, vor dem
> > Body) so wie diesem:
> >
> > 040b73747265616d747970656481a203840163c4840373737300814c4c819b9c84012584097f4
> > 11b33312e352d34
> >
> > Weiß jemand, woran das liegt, und wie man das abstellen kann?
>
> Riecht stark nach einer Headerzeile, die fälschlich umgebrochen wird und
> somit in den Body rutscht. Es könnte sich auch um eine MIME-Boundary
> handeln, die nicht erkannt (vielleicht auch wegen eines überzähligen
> Umbruchs) und deswegen dargestellt wird.
>
> Behebung? Mmh, keine besonderen Ideen, vielleicht mal in den Header
> schauen, was da als MIME-Delimiter angegeben wird.
Ich hab' mir das jetzt mal näher angeschaut, aber nix für mich offenkundig
Fehlerhaftes gefunden, wobei ich allerdings sagen muß, daß ich von MIME-Interna
wenig Plan habe.
Im folgenden als Beispiel eine Mail.
So sieht's in Mail.app aus (natürlich in Helvetica, formatiert etc.):
####################
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From: Thomas Winterstetter <q@twin.to>
Date: Thu, 7 May 98 16:53:29 +0200
To: uli@em.uni-frankfurt.de
Subject: netsurf.
Status:
040b73747265616d747970656481a203840163c4840373737300814c4c819b9c84012584097f411b3
3312e352d34 [#####TEXT DER MAIL beginnt hier#####]
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So sieht dasselbe in mbox aus:
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Original-Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148)
PP-warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line
From: Thomas Winterstetter <q@twin.to>
Date: Thu, 7 May 98 16:53:29 +0200
To: uli@em.uni-frankfurt.de
Subject: netsurf.
Status:
--NeXT-Mail-333190835-14
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
[#####TEXT DER MAIL als ASCII-Version#####]
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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<bold><fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param>
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Offenkundig ist es die Zahlenschlange nach "nofill>" in der MIME-Variante der
Mail, die in Mail.app im Body angezeigt wird.
Aber warum? Ich habe von niemandem mit Mail.app aus OS 4.2 sonst von diesen
Problemen gehört. Was bedeutet "nofill>" BTW?
Any ideas?
Danke!
Tschau
Uli
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From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ?lassen sich Musik-CD s einlesen
Date: 8 May 1998 18:41:34 GMT
Organization: Ink Unknown
Message-ID: <6ivjku$hnp$1@beyond.jsnet>
References: <Eq44Ku.8v@manki.toppoint.de> <6f6fe2$nts$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
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Cc: stefan.boehringer_REMOVE_ME_@ruhr-uni-bochum.de
In <6f6fe2$nts$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Stefan Boehringer wrote:
> manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) wrote:
> >Hallo,
> >
> >die Frage ist, wie und womit ich Musik-CD s einlesen kann um sie auf CD zu
> >brennen. Ich habe ein TOSHIBA 3701TA. Mit CD_evil klappt s nicht, Version
> >Beta 0.03
> Folgendes csh-script kann zum einlesen von CD's benutzt werden. Leider ist
> unter NS/OS nur der 1. track auslesbar, was för Musik-CDs nicht so nötzlich
> ist. OmniCD.app bietet die Möglichkeit Musikstöcke beim Abspielen als
> audiofile mitzuschneiden (ich habe das nicht ausprobiert). Ansonsten bleibt
> meines Wissens nur Windows zum einlesen von Musikstöcken.
>
Nee,
playcd von Carl Edman tuts seit Jahren.
Juergen
From: Matthias Heidbrink <*NOSPAM*mh@cs.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NeXTstation: Hilfe mit IP-Adresse und Hostname
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 23:24:34 +0100
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <35538622.673D@cs.tu-berlin.de>
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Hi,
ich bin seit zwei Tagen stolzer Besitzer einer NeXTstation color (NS
3.2) und habe Probleme mit der Netzwerkkonfiguration. Ich mu=DF die
IP-Adresse und den Hostname =E4ndern. Leider habe ich keine Ahnung von
NeXT und auch keine Handb=FCcher (au=DFer Systemadmin-Handbuch online).
Anscheinend ist der Rechner als NetInfo-Server eingerichtet. =
SimpleNetworkStarter oder HostConfig erlauben mir nicht, IP-Adresse und
Hostname zu =E4ndern. =C4ndere ich sie in /etc/hostconfig manuell, so boo=
tet
der Rechner nicht mehr. Nach dem Starten von portmap bleibt er h=E4ngen.
In diesem Zustand kann man ihn schon von au=DFen unter der neuen
IP-Adresse anPINGen. =
Man kommt in diesem Zustand zwar mit Control-C weiter, allerdings hat
man dann kein Netz und es kommen mehrere Fehlermeldungen im Zusammenhang
mit NetInfo bis hin zu der Meldung, Tastaturbelegung und Sprache
einzugeben wie anscheinend sonst nur bei einem neuen System.
Meine Vermutung ist, da=DF ich IP-Adresse und Hostname nur =FCber NetInfo=
=E4ndern kann, allerdings traue ich mich da nicht heran, weil im
Sysadmin-Handbuch nicht genau beschrieben ist, wie ich einen
NetInfo-Server der oberen Ebene "umziehe". =
Kann mir jemand erkl=E4ren, was genau ich tun mu=DF, um IP-Adresse und
Hostname zu setzen, ohne das Netzwerk au=DFer Funktion zu setzen?
BTW, die IP-Adresse ist eine Class-B-Adresse und ich habe eine 8er
Netmask (255.255.255.248). Einige Computer haben Probleme mit "krummen"
Netmasks, ist da =FCber NeXT irgendetwas bekannt? =
Ciao, Matthias
From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: TIFF-Maildatenbank
Date: 9 May 1998 08:29:13 GMT
Organization: DX-Team - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Moin!
Ich habe gestern mein Bildchen zur MailTIFF-Datenbank geschickt, jedoch
wundert es mich, das ich Ulli u.a. schön in radicallnews sehen kann, mich
aber nicht, obwohl ich natuerlich mich selbst in das richtige Verzeichnis
kopiert habe?
Ausserdem dachte ich immer, das man bei "Benutzer" in MailApp die
Benutzerbilder auch sieht, wenn sie gespeichert sind, oder muessen die
lokalen NutzerInnen noch woanders abgespeichert werden bzw. ein spezieller
Alias gesetzt werden?
Wenn schon NeXT, dann auch die schicken Sachen :))) Die nix bringen, aber
geil aussehen :))))
--
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22143 Hamburg, Germany
eMail: jogi2@vossnet.de (NeXTMail welcome!)
jsi@stardivision.de (StarOffice-Mail welcome!)
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: TIFF-Maildatenbank
Date: 9 May 1998 08:34:57 GMT
Organization: DX-Team - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Nochmal tach
In <6j144p$acc$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
> Ich habe gestern mein Bildchen zur MailTIFF-Datenbank geschickt, jedoch
> wundert es mich, das ich Ulli u.a. schön in radicallnews sehen kann, mich
> aber nicht, obwohl ich natuerlich mich selbst in das richtige Verzeichnis
> kopiert habe?
Zurueck, ich kann mich sehen....seit eben? Wieso weiss ich nicht :-)))
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: komplette TurboDimenion zu verkaufen
Date: 9 May 1998 11:53:42 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development
Message-ID: <6j1g46$8jf@alice.turbocat.de>
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rubsamen@pro-audio.com wrote:
>Hi,
>
>ich habe eine perfekt augestattete TurboDimension anzubieten:
(...)
>Preis ab DM 4.500,00
Für ein "End of the Line" Produkt ziemlich viel.
Dafür sollte man lieber neue Hardware oder 10 Turbostations kaufen.
(meine letzte hat 300 DM gekostet)
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From: armin@devicen.de (Armin Retzko)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Frage zu PasteUp
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 21:57:04 +0200
Organization: DEVICE/N GmbH
Message-ID: <armin-ya023180000905982157040001@news.messe.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Hallo,
Kann mir jemand sagen, ob es PasteUp 2.0 schon als NeXTSTEP/Intel Version gab?
Falls ja, kann mir jemand eine Version schicken? Ich besitze leider nur
noch eine Version fuer schwarze Hardware, und plane ev. den Umstieg auf
Intel.
Auf den gaengigen FTP-Servern konnte ich leider keine PasteUp 2.0 Version
mehr finden.
Vielen Dank.
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTstation: Hilfe mit IP-Adresse und Hostname
Date: 9 May 1998 14:57:52 GMT
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <6j1qtg$92q$1@marsu.navigator.de>
References: <35538622.673D@cs.tu-berlin.de>
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Cc: *NOSPAM*mh@cs.tu-berlin.de
In <35538622.673D@cs.tu-berlin.de> Matthias Heidbrink wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ich bin seit zwei Tagen stolzer Besitzer einer NeXTstation color (NS
> 3.2) und habe Probleme mit der Netzwerkkonfiguration. Ich muß die
> IP-Adresse und den Hostname ändern. Leider habe ich keine Ahnung von
> NeXT und auch keine Handbücher (außer Systemadmin-Handbuch online).
>
> Anscheinend ist der Rechner als NetInfo-Server eingerichtet.
> SimpleNetworkStarter oder HostConfig erlauben mir nicht, IP-Adresse und
> Hostname zu ändern. Ändere ich sie in /etc/hostconfig manuell, so bootet
> der Rechner nicht mehr. Nach dem Starten von portmap bleibt er hängen.
> In diesem Zustand kann man ihn schon von außen unter der neuen
> IP-Adresse anPINGen.
Die neue IP-Adresse muß sowohl in /etc/hostconfig als auch in der Netinfo-DB
stehen. Keines der /NextAdmin-Tools erlaubt es, dies gleichzeitig zu ändern,
es sei denn, man setzt zuvor die Netinfo komplett in den Urzustand zurück.
Wichtig ist auch die Netinfo-Eigenschaft "trusted_networks", sonst vertraut
er sich selbst nicht mehr :-)
> Man kommt in diesem Zustand zwar mit Control-C weiter, allerdings hat
> man dann kein Netz und es kommen mehrere Fehlermeldungen im Zusammenhang
> mit NetInfo bis hin zu der Meldung, Tastaturbelegung und Sprache
> einzugeben wie anscheinend sonst nur bei einem neuen System.
>
> Meine Vermutung ist, daß ich IP-Adresse und Hostname nur über NetInfo
> ändern kann, allerdings traue ich mich da nicht heran, weil im
> Sysadmin-Handbuch nicht genau beschrieben ist, wie ich einen
> NetInfo-Server der oberen Ebene "umziehe".
>
> Kann mir jemand erklären, was genau ich tun muß, um IP-Adresse und
> Hostname zu setzen, ohne das Netzwerk außer Funktion zu setzen?
Erst von Hand mit dem Editor die /etc/hostconfig wie gewünscht abändern (natür
lich vorher eine Sicherheitskopie anlegen). Dann die Netinfo-Datenbanken in
Flatfiles auslesen:
nidump -r / / >netinfo.root
nidump -r / . >netinfo.local
Auch das Verzeichnis /etc/netinfo sollte man vorher nochmal sichern
Alle zu ersetzenden Hostnamen / IP- und Netzadressen in den Dateien ändern
(auch trusted_networks!).
Dann die Netinfo wieder einlesen:
niload -d -r / / <netinfo.root
niload -d -r / . <netinfo.local
(Vorher mal überprüfen, ob es überhaupt eine root-Netinfo-DB gibt - Nachsehen
in /etc/netinfo. Dann muß man das nur für eine Netinfo-DB machen).
Bevor der Rechner merkt, daß seine eigene Netinfo-IP-Adresse geändert wurde:
Reboot!
Hat schon mehrfach sehr erfolgreich funktioniert.
> BTW, die IP-Adresse ist eine Class-B-Adresse und ich habe eine 8er
> Netmask (255.255.255.248). Einige Computer haben Probleme mit "krummen"
> Netmasks, ist da über NeXT irgendetwas bekannt?
Das sind keine "krummen" Netzmasken, das ist CIDR (Classless Interdomain
Routing). Und Nextstep kann das problemlos.
Gruß,
Markus
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: mbr cleanen
Date: 9 May 1998 15:00:20 GMT
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <6j1r24$92q$2@marsu.navigator.de>
References: <6iu53b$ju8$1@news.vossnet.de>
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Cc: jogi2@vossnet.de
In <6iu53b$ju8$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
> Moin!
>
> Im MBR auf der NeXT-Pladde ist ja der Bootmanager von NeXTStep verankert...
> Mit einem FDISK /MBR (IMHO) koennte man den wegloeschen, ohne die Pladde zu
> zerschiessen, jedoch - wie empfindlich wuerde NeXTStep darauf reagieren?
Kein Problem. Du kannst nach 'fdisk /mbr' jederzeit noch mit der Bootdiskette
booten und bei Bedarf mit 'disk -b /dev/rsd0a' den Nextstep-Bootmanager
wieder installieren.
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Zahlenm=FCll?= in MIME-Mails?
Date: 9 May 1998 15:04:50 GMT
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <6j1rai$92q$3@marsu.navigator.de>
References: <6itc8h$1ts@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Cc: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de
In <6itc8h$1ts@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ich kriege zur Zeit öfters MIME-Mails von einem OPENSTEP 4.2-Benutzer, dei
> regelmäßig mit einem Zahlenkauderwelsch beginnen (nach dem Header, vor dem
> Body) so wie diesem:
>
>
040b73747265616d747970656481a203840163c4840373737300814c4c819b9c84012584097f4
> 11b33312e352d34
>
> Weiß jemand, woran das liegt, und wie man das abstellen kann?
Wenn ich mich recht erinnere kann das daher kommen, daß in der MIME-Mail
unterschiedliche Farben verwendet werden.
Na ja, OPENSTEP und MIME sind sowieso zwei Welten, die sich nicht vertragen.
Schick mal eine MIME-Mail mit Mail.app und lies sie mit Outlook oder Netscape
- alles steht dann auf einer Zeile. Das stört mich noch viel mehr! Weiß
jemand, woran das liegt, bzw. wer da die RFCs verletzt?
Wenn man sich mit Mail.app bei Nicht-Next-Empfängern nicht völlig blamieren
will, muß man nackte ASCII-Mails verschicken. Traurig, das...
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From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Zahlenm=FCll?= in MIME-Mails?
Date: 10 May 1998 19:23:44 GMT
Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany
Message-ID: <6j4us0$qf$1@nexus.oic.de>
References: <6itc8h$1ts@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <6j1rai$92q$3@marsu.navigator.de>
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In <6j1rai$92q$3@marsu.navigator.de> Markus Wenzel wrote:
> Schick mal eine MIME-Mail mit Mail.app und lies sie mit Outlook oder
> Netscape - alles steht dann auf einer Zeile. Das stört mich noch viel mehr!
> Weiß jemand, woran das liegt, bzw. wer da die RFCs verletzt?
Das würde mich auch interessieren, da ich ähnliche Probleme habe und im
Moment der einzige Ausweg darin besteht ASCII-Mail zu benutzen.
Tschau...
Jürgen
From: Max Hartel <mhartel@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: mixbox
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:25:28 +0200
Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin
Message-ID: <35560D38.F8B86119@hotmail.com>
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Hi,
ich habe eine mixbox geschenkt bekommen. Leider habe ich die Licence
cards nicht und so würde ich gerne wissen wo ich Lizenzen bekommen kann.
Außerdem habe ich versucht die Software auf meine NeXTstation color zu
installieren doch bevor der INSTALLER das Installationsprogramm starten
konnte, kam die message:
errors while installing. Woran könnte das liegen? Vielleicht haben die
Disketten im Laufe der Jahre informationen verloren? Ich konnte danach
die NeXT auch nicht mehr starten, weil der mixtreiber nicht richtig
geladen werden konnte. SYSTEM PANIC war die Folge.
Ich habe es zwar geschafft, alle schon installierte Treiber zu
deinstallieren, aber ich muss jetzt immer im ROM MONITOR den single user
modus starten und dann ein paar Kommandos aus dem MIX readme file
eingeben, um wieder in den multiuser modus zu kommen. Das muss ich jetzt
bei jedem hochfahren des Computers tun, denn wenn ich ihn normal booten
will, rattert er nur wie wild auf der Festplatter herum und hört nicht
auf. Wie kann ich das beseitigen. Ich bin leider mit dem Unix
Hintergrund nicht vertraut noch weiss ich viel über Unix.
Jede Hilfe wäre mir sehr willkommen
Vielen Dank schon im voraus
Max
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Zahlenm=FCll?= in MIME-Mails?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Message-ID: <1998May10.223434.19637@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Organization: INDIVIDUAL NETWORK Berlin
References: <6itc8h$1ts@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <6j1rai$92q$3@marsu.navigator.de> <6j4us0$qf$1@nexus.oic.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:34:34 GMT
Juergen Moellenhoff <jurgen@oic.de> wrote:
: In <6j1rai$92q$3@marsu.navigator.de> Markus Wenzel wrote:
:> Schick mal eine MIME-Mail mit Mail.app und lies sie mit Outlook oder
:> Netscape - alles steht dann auf einer Zeile. Das stört mich noch viel mehr!
:> Weiß jemand, woran das liegt, bzw. wer da die RFCs verletzt?
: Das würde mich auch interessieren, da ich ähnliche Probleme habe und im
: Moment der einzige Ausweg darin besteht ASCII-Mail zu benutzen.
Meines Wissens ueberlaesst NeXTs Mail.app den Umbruch dem
darstellenden Mail-Useragent auf der Empfaengerseite. Bzw. es fuegt
nur "weiche" Zeilenumbrueche ein, die von Netscape nicht
beruecksichtigt werden. Da Netscapes Mail-Displayer offenbar nicht
selbsttaetig einen Umbruch der empfangenen Mail (der Text-Bodyparts)
vornimmt, sieht das fuer den Empfaenger, der mit Netscape liest, wie
eine einzige ellenlange Zeile aus... :-/
MIME gibt dafuer wohl kein Useragent-Verhalten hinsichtlich der
weichen Umbrueche vor, und mit (manchen?) anderen Mailprogrammen auf
der Empfaengerseite tritt das Problem wohl auch nicht auf.
Insofern bleibt einem u.U. wirklich nur, die Mail als ASCII-Mail zu
schicken (evtl. hilft es auch, eine MIME-Mail in Mail.app von Hand
umzubrechen, also feste Linebreaks von Hand einzufuegen?)
Ingmar
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: mixbox
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Message-ID: <1998May10.224118.19769@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Organization: INDIVIDUAL NETWORK Berlin
References: <35560D38.F8B86119@hotmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:41:18 GMT
Max Hartel <mhartel@hotmail.com> wrote (via FU-Berlin):
: ich habe eine mixbox geschenkt bekommen. Leider habe ich die Licence
: cards nicht und so würde ich gerne wissen wo ich Lizenzen bekommen kann.
Du hast Glueck: Die Firma existiert noch und sitzt in Berlin! :-)
Erkundige Dich mal bei
i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH
Hammerstrasse 45c
D-14167 Berlin
mix@ilink.de
Tel. 030-847 071 98
Fax 030-847 071 99
(BTW: Die FU-Admins moegen es ueberhaupt nicht, wenn jemand ueber
seinen FU-(ZEDAT-)Account postet und dann als Absender eine hotmail-,
gmx- o.ae. Adresse angibt!)
Gruss,
Ingmar
Hammerstrasse 45c
D-14167 Berlin
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: TIFF-Maildatenbank
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Message-ID: <1998May10.223749.19700@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Organization: INDIVIDUAL NETWORK Berlin
References: <6j144p$acc$1@news.vossnet.de> <6j14fh$acc$2@news.vossnet.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:37:49 GMT
Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
: In <6j144p$acc$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
:> Ich habe gestern mein Bildchen zur MailTIFF-Datenbank geschickt, jedoch
:> wundert es mich, das ich Ulli u.a. schön in radicallnews sehen kann, mich
:> aber nicht, obwohl ich natuerlich mich selbst in das richtige Verzeichnis
:> kopiert habe?
: Zurueck, ich kann mich sehen....seit eben? Wieso weiss ich nicht :-)))
...Vermutlich Mail.app neu gestartet?!
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Station-Monitor stirbt :-(
Date: 10 May 1998 08:57:33 GMT
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Hi,
der Monitor unserer guten alten NextStation wird langsam altersschwach, das
Bild läßt doch stark nach.
Weiß jemand
- ob es noch irgendwo neuwertige Monitore gibt (also keine, die genauso alt
sind bzw. genauso lange gelaufen)
- wie man die Station ohne Monitor betreiben kann (da war doch mal ein Trick
mit einem Widerstand)?
Gruß,
Markus
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From: rubsamen@pro-audio.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: mixbox
Date: 11 May 1998 05:44:18 GMT
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Die Installation von MIX fuegt einen Eintrag in /etc/rc.local:
(/private/mix/mix.rc) > /dev/console 2>&1
Du brauchst ihn nur zu loeschen dann sollte die Maschine wieder problemlos
hochkommen. Die MIX Treiber und der daemon liegen in /private/mix.
(Aufpassen: Nur /private/mix! /private und die anderen Unterverzeichnisse
sind ueberlebensnotwendig ;o)) Du kannst das ganze Verzeichnis als root
loeschen. Danach hast Du dann hoechstens noch Programmfragmente in
/LocalApps, die Du problemlos loeschen kannst.
Gruss,
- Marcus
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From: rubsamen@pro-audio.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Station-Monitor stirbt :-(
Date: 11 May 1998 06:02:11 GMT
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mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) wrote:
>Hi,
>
>der Monitor unserer guten alten NextStation wird langsam altersschwach, das
>Bild läßt doch stark nach.
>Weiß jemand
>
>- ob es noch irgendwo neuwertige Monitore gibt (also keine, die genauso alt
>sind bzw. genauso lange gelaufen)
>- wie man die Station ohne Monitor betreiben kann (da war doch mal ein Trick
>mit einem Widerstand)?
>
>Gruß,
>Markus
Es gibt noch zwei wesentlich einfachere Tricks als mit dem Widerstand. Einen
sehr eleganten und einen etwas haesslichen:
elegante Loesung ;o): Kauf die eine Soundbox ($ 20,00)und schliesse die mit
dem Monitorkabel an die Station. Das hat den Vorteil, dass Du die ganze
Tastatur zur Bedienung hast, inklusive Power on/off. Theoretisch kann man
damit der Kiste auch blind etwas mitteilen. Besonders interessant, wenn ohne
WindowServer hochfaehrt.
haessliche Loesung:
1. Fahr die Maschine mit Monitor hoch
2. stelle als Root automatisches Starten nach Stromausfall und "ueberhaupt"
in Preferences ein
3. stell Dich hinter die Station und drehe schon mal die Schrauben fuer die
Fixierung des Monitorkabel auf
4. schalte die Maschine aus
5 waehrend die Maschine ca. 3 Sekunden ausbleibt, musst Du das Monitorkabel
ziehen. Dannach bootet die Maschine wie gehabt.
Das funktioniert meines Wissens nach mit allen Stations, nicht aber mit allen
Cubes da manche (alte) Cube Netzteile eine Last wollen. Um die Station
auszuschalten bzw. wieder mit Monitor zu betreiben, einfach die Maschine per
telnet mit halt -p abwuergen. Danach schnell das Monitorkabel wieder rein (Du
hast ca. 3 Sekunden Zeit oder Netzkabel ziehen um mehr Zeit zu haben mit dem
Monitorkabel. Das hoert sich wirklich nicht schoen an, funktioniert in der
Praxis aber wirklich gut, wenn man den Rechner nicht alle paar Stunden doch
ausschalten moechte, oder doch mit Display usw. Ich mache das mit zwei
Maschinen seit fast zwei Jahren. Kein Problem,
Gruss,
- Marcus
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Druckerprobleme Next Laserdrucker
Date: 10 May 1998 21:06:56 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development
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References: <1d8brai.v8fyh01246sykN@hh12a.vnet.de> <EsDoEC.IDM@nidat.sub.org> <1d8ia70.1hnjwwuy37qt4N@hh21a.vnet.de> <6iuet1$dk42@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
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phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) wrote:
>Ernst Biesalski (Ernst_Biesalski@magicvillage.de) wrote:
[Zahnräder...]
Alles unterhalb der Teile, die mit dem Deckel hochklappen sind normale CANON
Teile und sind bei kompetenten CANON-Leuten zu bekommen.
Wir hatten einen Drucker, der nicht mehr druckte, weil der Spiegel sich nicht
mehr schnell genug drehte.
Lösung: Im Großhandel die richtige Kugellager gekauft und mit der eigens
dafür gedrehten Presse eingepresst.
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From: Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Station-Monitor stirbt :-(
Date: 11 May 1998 10:19:46 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Message-ID: <6j6jc2$314$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
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Markus Wenzel <mow@navigator.de> wrote:
: Hi,
: der Monitor unserer guten alten NextStation wird langsam altersschwach, das
: Bild läßt doch stark nach.
: Weiß jemand
: - ob es noch irgendwo neuwertige Monitore gibt (also keine, die genauso alt
: sind bzw. genauso lange gelaufen)
Das beschriebene Problem tritt angeblich nur mit N4000 und N4000A Monitoren
auf. Wenn Du genug Geld hast, kannst Du bei Deepspachetech einen neuen
Monitor kaufen
(http://www.deepspacetech.com/Nexthardware.html). "Ublicherweise
lassen sich N4000B nur an ADB Systemen betreiben, Deepspacetech hat
aber auch einige auf nicht-ADB konvertierte Monitore auf Lager.
Sonst gibt es Monitore noch bei Spherical Solutions
(http://www.orb.com/Access.html) und bei Black Hole
(http://blackholeinc.media3.net/specials/blackhardware.shtml). Black
Hole sollte dabei auch konvertierte N4000B haben.
Eberhard
From: Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: ADB Mono Monitor Kabel?
Date: 11 May 1998 10:34:30 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
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Hi,
ich habe neuderdings zu Hause eine NeXTdimension stehen. Vorher hatte
ich eine NeXTstation mono turbo ADB. Ich möchte jetzt gerne den
Monitor von der Station an der Cube betreiben. Das funktioniert auch,
wenn ich das Kabel von der Station benutze. Nur leider ist das sehr
kurz. Jetzt meine Fragen:
Kann ich das Kabel, das ich mit der Soundbox von der Dimension
bekommen habe, auch för den Monitor benutzen? Das Problem ist dabei,
daû die Soundbox non-ADB ist, der Monitor (N4000B) aber ein ADB
Monitor ist. Die FAQ sagt, daû man för den Betrieb eines ADB Monitors
auch ein entsprechendes Kabel benutzen muû, so daû ich noch keine
Experimente in dieser Richtung unternommen habe.
Gibt es hier irgendwo jemand, der mir noch so ein Kabel öberlassen
kann, falls ich tatsÙchlich ein solches gebrauche?
Danke,
Eberhard
From: Richard Scholz <richard@de.subito>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ADB Mono Monitor Kabel?
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:34:03 +0200
Organization: IPF.net - Frankfurt, Germany
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Eberhard Wolff wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Kann ich das Kabel, das ich mit der Soundbox von der Dimension
> bekommen habe, auch för den Monitor benutzen?
Du erkennst den Typ des Kabels anhand der Nummer, die am Stecker steht.
Ist die Nummer 150, dann ist es ein Non-ADB Cube Kabel. Die genauen
Nummern für die anderen Kabel habe ich nicht mehr im Kopf, sie stehen
aber im NeXT Hardware FAQ.
> Die FAQ sagt, daû man för den Betrieb eines ADB Monitors
> auch ein entsprechendes Kabel benutzen muû, ...
Damit Du den ADB Monitor benutzen kannst, brauchst Du neben dem Kabel
natürlich auch einen ADB tauglichen Cube (sprich TurboCube mit
entsprechendem ROM), Maus und Tastatur.
Grüße, Richard
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From: Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ADB Mono Monitor Kabel?
Date: 11 May 1998 15:59:42 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Message-ID: <6j779e$b2v$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
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Richard Scholz <richard@de.subito> wrote:
: Du erkennst den Typ des Kabels anhand der Nummer, die am Stecker steht.
: Ist die Nummer 150, dann ist es ein Non-ADB Cube Kabel. Die genauen
: Nummern für die anderen Kabel habe ich nicht mehr im Kopf, sie stehen
: aber im NeXT Hardware FAQ.
Genau so eins habe ich. Die Frage ist jetzt, ob es _wirklich_ einen
Unterschied zwischen non-ADB und ADB Kabeln gibt.
: Damit Du den ADB Monitor benutzen kannst, brauchst Du neben dem Kabel
: natürlich auch einen ADB tauglichen Cube (sprich TurboCube mit
: entsprechendem ROM), Maus und Tastatur.
Ich betreibe schon die Kiste mit ADB. Nur das Kabel ist so kurz, daû
ich die Cube auf meinem Schreibtisch haben muû. Das ist zwar
Ùsthetisch wertvoll, aber nicht so platzsparend.
Eberhard
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From: no.spam@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede)
Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Zahlenm=FCll?= in MIME-Mails?
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:55:56 GMT
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In article <1998May10.223434.19637@aurora.in-berlin.de>, Ingmar Camphausen
<ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de> wrote:
> MIME gibt dafuer wohl kein Useragent-Verhalten hinsichtlich der
> weichen Umbrueche vor, und mit (manchen?) anderen Mailprogrammen auf
> der Empfaengerseite tritt das Problem wohl auch nicht auf.
>
> Insofern bleibt einem u.U. wirklich nur, die Mail als ASCII-Mail zu
> schicken (evtl. hilft es auch, eine MIME-Mail in Mail.app von Hand
> umzubrechen, also feste Linebreaks von Hand einzufuegen?)
Von Hand nach Augenmass oder per Services (ist - glaube ich - ein
Tickle-Service) umbrechen hilft.
[siehe auch mein Followup auf Markus Wenzels Posting]
Markus Gloede
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From: no.spam@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede)
Subject: Re: Zahlenmüll in MIME-Mails?
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:55:52 GMT
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In article <6iv57o$1nc@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>,
uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote:
[deletia]
> So sieht dasselbe in mbox aus:
>
[mehr oder weniger typischer Header]
>
> --NeXT-Mail-333190835-14
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Disposition: inline
>
> [#####TEXT DER MAIL als ASCII-Version#####]
>
> --NeXT-Mail-333190835-14
> Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Disposition: inline
>
> <=
> nofill>040b73747265616d747970656481a203840163c4840373737300814c4c819b9c840125=
> 84097f411b33312e352d34 [#####TEXT DER MAIL als MIME-Version, ohne
SIGNATURE#####]
> </nofill>
>
>
> <bold><fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param>
> <bigger>
> [#####SIGNATURE#####]
> </bold>
>
> --NeXT-Mail-333190835-14--
[...]
> Any ideas?
Keine Loesung, aber zusaetzliche Tips: der Absender moege mal "Send MIME
alternatives", oder wie immer das auf Deutsch heisst, deaktivieren.
Markus Gloede
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From: no.spam@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede)
Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Zahlenm=FCll?= in MIME-Mails?
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:55:54 GMT
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In article <6j1rai$92q$3@marsu.navigator.de>, mow@navigator.de (Markus
Wenzel) wrote:
> Schick mal eine MIME-Mail mit Mail.app und lies sie mit Outlook oder Netscape
> - alles steht dann auf einer Zeile. Das stört mich noch viel mehr! Weiß
> jemand, woran das liegt, bzw. wer da die RFCs verletzt?
>
> Wenn man sich mit Mail.app bei Nicht-Next-Empfängern nicht völlig blamieren
> will, muß man nackte ASCII-Mails verschicken. Traurig, das...
Ich habe mich bereits in einer der comp.sys.next.*-Gruppen darueber
geaeussert. Ausserdem habe ich das Problem in comp.mail.mime vorgetragen.
Mittlerweile bin ich der Ansicht, dass es eine Missachtung (kein Verstoss)
einschlaegiger RFCs darstellt (Claris Emailer macht das uebrigens auch):
RFC 2045 besagt, dass, wenn Zeilen laenger als 76 sind, diese "weich"
durch "="+CRLF umgebrochen werden koennen. So macht es Mail.app auch. Dies
kommt bei anderen Mailprogrammen aber nur vor, wenn die eigentlichen,
bereits fest umgebrochenen Zeilen, durch Encoding laenger werden. Mail.app
bricht innerhalb eines Absatzes ueberhaupt nicht "hart" um, sondern
ueberlaesst dies dem Mail-Programm des Empfaengers. Letzteres ist es,
woran sich MIME-Profis stoeren: die einheitliche Darstellung wird nicht
nurch Kodierung gewaehrleistet, sondern haengt vom Programm ab.
Meine Abhilfe: Umbruch von Hand bzw. ueber Services->Mail->Reformat Text.
Ich habe bereits den Autor von EnhanceMail angeschrieben und ihm
vorgeschlagen, das in die naechste Version als Option einzuarbeiten. BTW:
MailViewer.app hat IIRC die gleiche Macke.
Markus Gloede
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From: Richard Scholz <richard@de.subito>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ADB Mono Monitor Kabel?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:16:55 +0200
Organization: IPF.net - Frankfurt, Germany
Message-ID: <35580577.196E@de.subito>
References: <6j6k7m$3g9$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> <35571A6B.280D@de.subito> <6j779e$b2v$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
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> Die Frage ist jetzt, ob es _wirklich_ einen
> Unterschied zwischen non-ADB und ADB Kabeln gibt.
>
Ja, es gibt einen Unterschied. Bei den ADB Kabeln ist ein PIN mehr
connected. Wenn Du den ADB Monitor mit falschem Kabel betreibst, dann
hat das den Effekt, das Maus und Tastatur nicht funktioniert.
Grüße, Richard
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From: Pierre Schwarz <peschwar@diapool.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Neues Smalltalk/X fuer Next (68k)
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:36:16 +0200
Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany
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Neues Smalltalk/X fuer Next (68k)
---------------------------------
Fuer alle die Interesse an Smalltalk haben, steht auf
ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/stx
eine neue Demoversion von Smalltalk/X zum download bereit.
Auf alle Faelle vor download README.DEMO_DISTRIB, README.NEXT
und README lesen.
Viel Spass,
Pierre.
peschwar@diapool.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
From: jut@ukrv.de (Jens-Uwe Thieme)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: mbr cleanen
Date: 12 May 1998 09:45:24 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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In <6j1r24$92q$2@marsu.navigator.de> Markus Wenzel wrote:
>
> Kein Problem. Du kannst nach 'fdisk /mbr' jederzeit noch mit der
Bootdiskette
> booten und bei Bedarf mit 'disk -b /dev/rsd0a' den Nextstep-Bootmanager
> wieder installieren.
>
>
Besser "disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a" .
CIAO
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Subject: Apple Tour 1998
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Apple Tour 1998 - Apple ist on the Road again!
Hi all,
der Erfolg der Partnerkonzepts der letztjährigen "New Macintosh" Roadshow und
unzählige Anfragen aus den unterschiedlichsten Bereichen begründen die
Fortsetzung der öffentlichen Präsentationen und Demo´s von Apple und seinen
Partnern in Form der Apple Tour 1998, die wir euch hiermit kurz in der Üb
ersicht vorstellen möchten.
A. Die Apple Tour 1998
1.) Projekt
Apple Tour für Creative Professionals / Installed Base / Firmenkunden in
Deutschland, Österreich und Schweiz an bekannten, ausgefallenen
Veranstaltungsorten, angelehnt an die Roadshow 97. Aufbauend auf den Erfolg
der Tour vom letzten Jahr erwarten wir ca. 400 Teilnehmer pro Termin.
2.) Zeitraum / Orte
9 Termine im Juni ´98: unmittelbar nach Einführung der neuesten Apple
Produkte; optimal verstärkt durch die zeitgleiche Neueinführung von
QuickTime 3.0, Photoshop 5.0 von Adobe und Mircosoft Office 98 Macintosh
Edition, die auch Haupt-Themen auf der Tour sein werden.
- 5. Juni - Hamburg
- 8. Juni - Wien
- 10. Juni - Stuttgart
- 12. Juni - Berlin
- 15. Juni - München
- 18. Juni - Frankfurt
- 22. Juni - Düsseldorf
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- News von der weltweiten Entwicklerkonferenz WWDC ´98
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- 11.15 - 11.45 Uhr:
- Neuvorstellung von Microsoft Office 98 Edition Macintosh
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- Nachmittags-Special
- von 13.00 - 16.00 Uhr
- Apple Partner mit starken Lösungen (jeweils einer Workstations pro
Partner) im Austellungsbereich
- Parallel hierzu begleitende Seminare (je 45 min. incl. Q&A´s) zu den
derzeit wohl heißesten Themen der Kreativbranche:
- Digitales Video (DV)
- MPEG und Musik
- Streaming Audio und Video für´s Web
- Authoring von Digital Versatile Discs (DVD)
Am Vormittags- und Nachmittagsteil können die Kunden auch separat teilnehmen,
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Eine spezielle Info- und Anmelde-WebPage wird ab 8.5. live im Internet unter
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: TIFF-Maildatenbank
Date: 12 May 1998 07:15:31 GMT
Organization: STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting, Germany
Message-ID: <6j8suj$36t@mimi.stepman.com>
References: <6j144p$acc$1@news.vossnet.de> <6j14fh$acc$2@news.vossnet.de>
<1998May10.223749.19700@aurora.in-berlin.de>
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In <1998May10.223749.19700@aurora.in-berlin.de> Ingmar Camphausen wrote:
> Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
>
> : In <6j144p$acc$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
>
> :> Ich habe gestern mein Bildchen zur MailTIFF-Datenbank geschickt, jedoch
> :> wundert es mich, das ich Ulli u.a. schön in radicallnews sehen kann,
mich
> :> aber nicht, obwohl ich natuerlich mich selbst in das richtige
Verzeichnis
> :> kopiert habe?
>
> : Zurueck, ich kann mich sehen....seit eben? Wieso weiss ich nicht :-)))
>
> ...Vermutlich Mail.app neu gestartet?!
Die Bilddatenbank wird nicht jede Stunde aktualisiert. Es kann schon sein, daß
zwischen Abschicken der Bildchen und Aktualisierung ein oder zwei Tage
liegen. Vor allem wenn ein Wochenende dazwischen liegt. :-)
Gerald
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: TIFF-Maildatenbank
Date: 12 May 1998 19:39:18 GMT
Organization: DX-Team - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Moin....!
In <6j8suj$36t@mimi.stepman.com> Gerald Erdmann wrote:
> Die Bilddatenbank wird nicht jede Stunde aktualisiert. Es kann schon sein,
daß
> zwischen Abschicken der Bildchen und Aktualisierung ein oder zwei Tage
> liegen. Vor allem wenn ein Wochenende dazwischen liegt. :-)
:-)))
Sooo meinte ich das nicht....ich meinte LOKAL :)
Ich hoffe irgendwer wird mir schon schreiben, wenn er mich mal sehen
kann....wie sollte ich sonst feststellen, das es funzt :)? Meine Freundin's
Bildchen werde ich bei Gelegenheit auch noch einscannen, mal schau´n ob sie
sich nach OS/2 auch fuer NeXT begeistern kann...
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jsi@stardivision.de (StarOffice-Mail welcome!)
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Hardware for my NeXT - Empfehlungen erwuenscht!
Date: 12 May 1998 19:45:32 GMT
Organization: DX-Team - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Jo, nochmal Moin!
Also: Ich habe leider bisher nur einen Tintenp**er und da der DOTS.App-Autor
nicht antwortet und ich irgendwie auch nicht die Triebe habe (nach reiflicher
Ueberlegung) das schicke WYSIWYG von NeXT durch meine Konvertierung zu
"zerstoeren", moechte ich mir einen PostScript-Laser leisten.....Ausserdem
hat mein Streamer nun endgueltig das zeitliche gesegnet und auch dort muss
also nachgebaut werden....
Zukuenftiges System:
- Adaptec SCSI-Controller (PCI) -> welchen wuerdet ihr empfehlen, da die
naechste Anschaffung?!
- SCSI-Streamer -> Erfahrungen/Tips immer welcome!
- Postcript-Laser -> kann auch gebraucht sein, ich suche nur ein Model,
welches Briefchen druckt und eben standardmaessig von NeXTStep unterstuetzt
wird - ohne zus. Programme/Treiber von Drittanbietern.
Fuer Tips bin ich dankbar...
P.S.: Das alles unter NEXTSTEP laufen muss, muss ich hier ja wohl nicht zus.
erwaehnen, oder ? :-)
--
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Subject: Re: NeXTstation: Hilfe mit IP-Adresse und Hostname
References: <35538622.673D@cs.tu-berlin.de>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35595a7e.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 13 May 98 08:31:58 GMT
Normalerweise muesstest Du im HostManager "Lokal ..." anwaehlen und dann den
Namen und die IP-Nummer angeben (Class-B?). Am besten noch als
broadcast-Addresse xxx.xxx.xxx.255 (xxx... ist Deine Domain) und Netmask
diejenige die Du angegeben hast. Wenn dann noch der Router auf dynamisch
steht und "In NetInfo-Server des Netzwerks einbinden" angewaehlt ist sollte
das ganze eigentlich laufen. (HostManager macht die Aenderung in
/etc/hostconfig und in der Netinfo ...). NIS-Domain ist wahrscheinlich keine
da?
Da Du aber erwaehnt hast, dass HostManager nicht funktioniert, koennte auch
die NetInfo korrupt sein, oder die NeXT wirklich Probleme mit deinen
Addressen haben (habe ich aber bis jetzt noch nicht gehoert) ...
Sven
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Hardware for my NeXT - Empfehlungen erwuenscht!
Date: 13 May 1998 09:59:36 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6jbqu8$e7d$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6ja8ss$3io$2@news.vossnet.de>
jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) wrote:
>Jo, nochmal Moin!
>
>Also: Ich habe leider bisher nur einen Tintenp**er und da der DOTS.App-Autor
>nicht antwortet und ich irgendwie auch nicht die Triebe habe (nach
reiflicher
>Ueberlegung) das schicke WYSIWYG von NeXT durch meine Konvertierung zu
>"zerstoeren", moechte ich mir einen PostScript-Laser leisten.....Ausserdem
>hat mein Streamer nun endgueltig das zeitliche gesegnet und auch dort muss
>also nachgebaut werden....
JetPilot tut angeblich viel besser als Dots, und laeuft zB mit dem
billigen LaserJet 5 von HP zusammen. Tintenpupser muss es meiner
Meinung nach nicht sein, aber aber warum fuer eine PS Engine
bezahlen, wenn man doch schon eine hat, auf die Art kommst du
viel billiger weg, auch sparst du dir Probleme mit non-residenten
Fonts.
Streamer wuerde ich persoenlich keinen kaufen, das neue Fujitsu
MO Laufwerk fasst 640 MB, steht in der Geschwindigkeit einem
magnetischen Datentraeger nicht nach, und hat sehr zuverlaessige
und preisguenstige Medien. Fuer mich das Backupmedium der Wahl,
kommt natuerlich immer auf die konkreten Anforderungen an.
> jsi@stardivision.de (StarOffice-Mail welcome!)
Cool. Star Division has seen the light..
Gruesse, Chris
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
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From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Q: Masterbootsektor
Date: 13 May 1998 13:20:10 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <6jc6ma$8j4$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Hi Leute,
mit welchem Befehl kann ich den NeXT-
Masterboot restaurieren, nachdem ich ihn
mir mit Windei 95 zerschossen habe?
Im Moment muss ich immer mit fdisk die
Aktivierungen umsetzen :-(
Danke,
Martin
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Masterbootsektor
Date: 13 May 1998 15:15:59 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6jcdff$lhd$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6jc6ma$8j4$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle) wrote:
>mit welchem Befehl kann ich den NeXT-
>Masterboot restaurieren, nachdem ich ihn
>mir mit Windei 95 zerschossen habe?
>Im Moment muss ich immer mit fdisk die
>Aktivierungen umsetzen :-(
von Floppy booten, mittels
boot: fd()mach_kernel rootdev=/dev/sd0a -s
und am Shell Prompt als Root sodann:
disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0
Stand aber garantiert schon mal in der NEXTTOYOU :-)
Alles wird gut.
Chris
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Hardware for my NeXT - Empfehlungen erwuenscht!
Date: 13 May 1998 22:54:12 GMT
Organization: Navigator
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In <6ja8ss$3io$2@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
> - Adaptec SCSI-Controller (PCI) -> welchen wuerdet ihr empfehlen, da die
> naechste Anschaffung?!
2940U oder UW, je nach den anzuschließenden Geräten
> - SCSI-Streamer -> Erfahrungen/Tips immer welcome!
Sony DAT, entweder den SDT-5000 (wenn SafetyNet verwendet werden soll) oder
den SDT-7000 (wenn mehr Kapazität und Übertragungsrate gewünscht, aber dump
oder tar verwendet wird).
> - Postcript-Laser -> kann auch gebraucht sein, ich suche nur ein Model,
> welches Briefchen druckt und eben standardmaessig von NeXTStep unterstuetzt
> wird - ohne zus. Programme/Treiber von Drittanbietern.
Echte Geschmacksfrage. Wenn der Drucker PostScript vernünftig unterstützt,
ist NeXTSTEP die Marke egal. Ich würde in der Gegend HP Laserjet 5 MP / 6 MP
suchen, oder Vergleichbares von anderen Herstellern.
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From: "Andreas Steinhauser" <steini@ccc.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Soundbox gesucht
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 11:56:57 +0200
Organization: Chaos Computer Club
Message-ID: <6jeb1h$niv$1@unlisys.unlisys.net>
Ich habe eine kaputte Soundbox N4004 (for use with N1200).
Der Rechner haengt sich auf, sobald er einen Sound ausgeben moechte.
Kennt jemand das Problem, kann man das beheben.
Wer hat eine funktioniende Soundbox fuer mich und moechte sie auch
verkaufen?
Steini
CCC-Berlin
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From: stalker@wmax84.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Stalker)
Subject: S:040 board fuer cube
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Date: 14 May 98 11:51:40 GMT
Wer verkauft unserem Institut ein 040 NeXT-cube-board ohne alles
(oder auch turbo-board)?
Preisvorstellungen bitte an
sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
Bitte kein reply, da dies ein Notfall-account ohne .forward-Recht ist.
Danke
Sven
From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: bln.termine,de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Apple-Technologie-Tag an der TU Berlin (16. Juni)
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Date: 14 May 1998 22:14:36 GMT
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APPLE TECHNOLOGIETAG AN DER TECHNISCHEN UNIVERSITÄT BERLIN
Am 16. Juni 1998 veranstaltet Apple an der Technischen Universität Berlin
einen Technologie-Tag mit dem Ziel, Apple-Anwender und -Interessierten sowie
Entwickler im Forschung & Lehre-Umfeld gleich im Anschluß an die Worldwide
Developers Conference in Kalifornien aktuell über die neuesten Technologie-
Trends zu informieren.
Inhalte werden sein:
* Aktuelles zur Systemstrategie
MacOS zukünftige Entwicklung
Rhapsody
Yellow Box
Java
Apple Script
* Multimedia-Technologie
* Internet & WWW
AppleShare IP
WebObjects
* Hardware
PowerPC Zukunft
DVD
USB
FireWire
Veranstaltungsort:
Hauptgebäude der TU Berlin
Straße des 17. Juni 135
10623 Berlin
Raum H 2053 (2. Stock)
15:00 bis 19:00 Uhr (Verlängerung bis 21:00 Uhr in Vorbereitung)
Wir freuen uns über jeden, der kommt.
Aktuelle Informationen finden Sie jederzeit auch im Internet unter
http://www.apple.de/education
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Tips zu NEXTSTEP 2.1-Installation gesucht
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 21:57:35 +0200
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ich habe vor, nächste Woche auf einer schwarzen NeXTStation (8 MB RAM,
100 MB Platte) NEXTSTEP 2.1 neu zu installieren (in der Hoffnung, daß
unser Rechenzentrum noch eine solche CD hat...).
Gibt's dabei irgendwelche Tricks, die man beachten sollte? Was sollte
man nach der Installation alles verändern/korrigieren/patchen?
Gibt's irgendwelche WWW-Clients oder gar X-Server, die darauf laufen?
Ein Problem wird sein, daß wohl kein C-Compiler enthalten ist. Gibt's
irgendwo eine Sammlung mit 2.1-Binaries? Binaries, die auf 3.3
kompiliert worden sind (da habe ich immerhin gcc 2.7.2.3 installiert
bekommen, wenn's auch mit der GNU c++ lib 2.7.2 bislang noch nicht
geklappt hat...:-(), scheinen nicht auf 2.1 als ausführbar anerkannt zu
werden.
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
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Subject: Re: Hardware for my NeXT - Empfehlungen erwuenscht!
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In <6jd8ak$etj$1@marsu.navigator.de> Markus Wenzel wrote:
> > - SCSI-Streamer -> Erfahrungen/Tips immer welcome!
> Sony DAT, entweder den SDT-5000 (wenn SafetyNet verwendet werden soll) oder
> den SDT-7000 (wenn mehr Kapazität und Übertragungsrate gewünscht, aber dump
> oder tar verwendet wird).
Der SONY SDT-9000 brummt jedenfalls sehr schoen an meiner Kiste... Macht
seine 2 MByte/sek rauf und runter... Vorsicht: aeltere Tape-Firmwares tuns
nicht richtig (0200 ist aktuell).
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* Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank
* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard
* "The answer is vi, what was your question...?"
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Tips zu NEXTSTEP 2.1-Installation gesucht
Date: 16 May 1998 09:49:59 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) wrote:
>ich habe vor, nächste Woche auf einer schwarzen NeXTStation (8 MB RAM,
>100 MB Platte) NEXTSTEP 2.1 neu zu installieren (in der Hoffnung, daß
>unser Rechenzentrum noch eine solche CD hat...).
*Kewel*!
Das steht schon lange auf meiner Liste von "dumme Sachen, die ich
machen will wenn ich mal Zeit habe".
Allerdings.. wenn ich mich recht entsinne, war 2.2 die erste Version,
die es auf CD gab, vorher wurde NS von deinem freundlichen NeXT-Haendler
aufgespielt (der es wiederum, glaube ich, auf Disketten bekam). Falls
du eine Turbo-Station hast, das auch die Version die du brauchst.
Jedoch laeuft 2.2 nicht korrekt auf Non-Turbo Architekturen, da es
eigentlich nur als Turbo-vertraeglicher Update gedacht war, und
die alte Architektur nicht ganz korrekt unterstuetzt. Der Fehler
tritt soweit ich weiss, nur beim Floppy-Zugriff auf, und ist relativ
harmlos. Er kann komplett behoben werden, wenn man den 2.1er Kernel
aufspielt, eine Kopie desselben hab ich noch irgendwo. Man macht
dazu am besten ein paar Einstellungen im Monitor, schick mir ggf
Mail (Achtung, zwei Spamblocker).
Wenn du die CD bekommst, moechte ich eine Kopie :-)
>Gibt's dabei irgendwelche Tricks, die man beachten sollte? Was sollte
>man nach der Installation alles verändern/korrigieren/patchen?
>Gibt's irgendwelche WWW-Clients oder gar X-Server, die darauf laufen?
>Ein Problem wird sein, daß wohl kein C-Compiler enthalten ist. Gibt's
>irgendwo eine Sammlung mit 2.1-Binaries? Binaries, die auf 3.3
>kompiliert worden sind (da habe ich immerhin gcc 2.7.2.3 installiert
>bekommen, wenn's auch mit der GNU c++ lib 2.7.2 bislang noch nicht
>geklappt hat...:-(), scheinen nicht auf 2.1 als ausführbar anerkannt zu
>werden.
Es gab damals natuerlich auch schon die Developer Version mit C-Compiler.
Sicher drauf laufen sollte der Original Webbrowser von TBL (ach je,
die gute alte Zeit..), auch denke ich, dass du den NCSA httpd zum
comnpilieren kriegen duerftest. SW findest du vielleicht auf einer
der alten CD Sammlungen (Nebula etc), irgendeine davon hab ich auch
noch zuhause rumfliegen.
Ein Teil der 2.1er Demos liegen auf Peanuts (Pendulum etc).
Viel Spass, und halt mich auf dem laufenden. Es waere schoen,
2.1 mal wieder zu sehen, die Oberflaeche hat mir - zumindest
von den Icons her - viel besser gefallen als das bunte 3.0.
Ich verstehe bis heute nicht, warum das Home unbedingt einen
Baum brauchte :-).
Gruesse, Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.."
// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Barbara & Gregor Kowalewski <a2278367@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S3 SVGA Problem
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 21:43:35 +0200
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
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Kann mir jemand helfen?
NeXT STEP 3.3 für Intel Generic S3 video driver
Problem beim booten im Graphikmodus ist bekannt.
Ich habe folgendes Problem:
Ich wollte mal die Farbtiefe bei 1024x768 ausreizen und habe die
Treibereinstellungen im Config-Programm eine Stufe hoeher gestell als
die Karte verträgt.
Erwarungsgemäss konnte ich bereits beim booten sehen, das die Aufloesung
automatisch in VGA 8 bit monochrom umgeschaltet wurde und doch:
kurz bevor das Login-Fenster erscheint wird der Bilschirm schwarz (ich
kann noch kurz den Mauszeiger sehen)
loge ich mich über telnet ein und mache reboot, sehe ich sofort die
konsole (wie beim booten) als waere nichts geschehen
Wie kann ich den Treiber zurücksetzen ohne das system neu installeiren
zu muessen?
Vielen Dank,
Gregor
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: S3 SVGA Problem
Date: 16 May 1998 21:59:12 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Barbara & Gregor Kowalewski <a2278367@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> wrote:
: Kann mir jemand helfen?
Aber sicher doch.
Verschiedene Moeglichkeiten gibt es:
Die erste, die mir einfaellt, ist booten mit config=Default
am bootprompt. Dann benutzt NeXTSTEP alle Default.tables
statt der Instance0.tables der Konfiguration. Dann hast
du 640x480 und solltest den Schaden reparieren koennen.
(Achtung, Schreibwqeise beachten. Default gross, config klein)
Falls das nicht hilft (weil die Default-Konfig nicht richtig
ist und die Maschine gar nicht hochkommt, oder auch in der
Default-Konfig ein falscher Videomodus eingetragen ist),
kannst Du Singleuser booten und mit vi in
/usr/Devices/S3Generic...config/Instance0.table einen
vernuenftigen Videomodus eintragen.
Viel Erfolg!
Axel
--
Axel Habermann
kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Tips zu NEXTSTEP 2.1-Installation gesucht
Date: 17 May 1998 09:07:41 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> writes:
>schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) wrote:
>>ich habe vor, nächste Woche auf einer schwarzen NeXTStation (8 MB RAM,
>>100 MB Platte) NEXTSTEP 2.1 neu zu installieren (in der Hoffnung, daß
>>unser Rechenzentrum noch eine solche CD hat...).
>*Kewel*!
>Das steht schon lange auf meiner Liste von "dumme Sachen, die ich
>machen will wenn ich mal Zeit habe".
wieso? Ist das so aufwendig? Eigentlich habe ich nämlich wahrlich
anderes zu tun.
>Allerdings.. wenn ich mich recht entsinne, war 2.2 die erste Version,
>die es auf CD gab, vorher wurde NS von deinem freundlichen NeXT-Haendler
:-(
das erklärt, wieso ich nirgendwo Installationsmaterial finden konnte :-(
>aufgespielt (der es wiederum, glaube ich, auf Disketten bekam). Falls
>du eine Turbo-Station hast, das auch die Version die du brauchst.
nee, ganz ordinäre 25 MHz 68040 und schwarz-weiß-Bildschirm. Bei dem
Modell kann man den Monitor nicht separat ausschalten.
>Jedoch laeuft 2.2 nicht korrekt auf Non-Turbo Architekturen, da es
>eigentlich nur als Turbo-vertraeglicher Update gedacht war, und
>die alte Architektur nicht ganz korrekt unterstuetzt. Der Fehler
>tritt soweit ich weiss, nur beim Floppy-Zugriff auf, und ist relativ
>harmlos. Er kann komplett behoben werden, wenn man den 2.1er Kernel
>aufspielt, eine Kopie desselben hab ich noch irgendwo. Man macht
also auf der Platte ist ein lauffähiges 2.1. Ich dachte halt, machst mal
ne gründliche Neuinstallation, schließlich ist das OS über die Jahre von
den Benutzern vermurkst worden.
>dazu am besten ein paar Einstellungen im Monitor, schick mir ggf >Mail
(Achtung, zwei Spamblocker).
>Wenn du die CD bekommst, moechte ich eine Kopie :-)
das wird technisch und wohl auch rechtlich problematisch sein.
>Es gab damals natuerlich auch schon die Developer Version mit C-Compiler.
OK, aber die habe ich wohl nicht. Außerdem dürften da die 100 MB knapp
werden (OK, es gibt noch NFS).
>Sicher drauf laufen sollte der Original Webbrowser von TBL (ach je,
wie heißt der? Woher kann man ihn bekommen?
>die gute alte Zeit..), auch denke ich, dass du den NCSA httpd zum
einen Dämon brauche ich nicht, sondern einen Client.
>Viel Spass, und halt mich auf dem laufenden. Es waere schoen,
>2.1 mal wieder zu sehen, die Oberflaeche hat mir - zumindest
>von den Icons her - viel besser gefallen als das bunte 3.0.
auf dem schwarz-weiß-monitor dürfte man das nicht merken :-)
>Ich verstehe bis heute nicht, warum das Home unbedingt einen
>Baum brauchte :-).
ich verstehe bei NeXT UI auch so einiges nicht. Aber das wird Apple ja
schon richten :-)
Eigentlich würde die 25 MHz 68040, 8 MB Kiste mit ihrem tollen
schwarz-weiß-Monitor eine super X-Terminal abgeben, wenn es nur dafür die
geeignete Software gäbe...
--
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Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi
Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Tips zu NEXTSTEP 2.1-Installation gesucht
Date: 17 May 1998 14:07:28 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) wrote:
>Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.darmstadt.de.nos-pam> writes:
>>Das steht schon lange auf meiner Liste von "dumme Sachen, die ich
>>machen will wenn ich mal Zeit habe".
>wieso? Ist das so aufwendig? Eigentlich habe ich nämlich wahrlich
>anderes zu tun.
Nicht aufwendig, mitnichten. Nutzlos. Und schoen.
>>aufgespielt (der es wiederum, glaube ich, auf Disketten bekam). Falls
>>du eine Turbo-Station hast, das auch die Version die du brauchst.
>nee, ganz ordinäre 25 MHz 68040 und schwarz-weiß-Bildschirm. Bei dem
>Modell kann man den Monitor nicht separat ausschalten.
Wie ungewoehnlich.
>>Wenn du die CD bekommst, moechte ich eine Kopie :-)
>
>das wird technisch und wohl auch rechtlich problematisch sein.
Das ist weder technisch noch recht rechtlich problematisch.
Die 2.1er Lizenz war mit der Maschine gebundelt, und darf nach Belieben
kopiert werden durfte. Und das Erstellen einer 1:1 Kopie ist einfach.
>OK, aber die habe ich wohl nicht. Außerdem dürften da die 100 MB knapp
>werden (OK, es gibt noch NFS).
Eine groessere Festplatte kann man fuer ca 300 DM kaufen, oder sie bei
einem Freund abstauben, der aufgeruestet hat.
>ich verstehe bei NeXT UI auch so einiges nicht. Aber das wird Apple ja
>schon richten :-)
*stoehn*
>Eigentlich würde die 25 MHz 68040, 8 MB Kiste mit ihrem tollen
>schwarz-weiß-Monitor eine super X-Terminal abgeben, wenn es nur dafür die
>geeignete Software gäbe...
[bozo bit flip]
Chris
--
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From: Christian Benesch <a9226931@unet.univie.ac.at>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Masterbootsektor
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 03:25:23 +0200
Organization: Vienna University, Austria
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Als root rein.
Die Shell auf.
fdisk /dev/rsd0h -useBoot0
Änderungen speichern und fertig.
Bootmanager läuft wie gehabt.
Christian Benesch
Martin Oettle wrote:
> Hi Leute,
>
> mit welchem Befehl kann ich den NeXT-
> Masterboot restaurieren, nachdem ich ihn
> mir mit Windei 95 zerschossen habe?
> Im Moment muss ich immer mit fdisk die
> Aktivierungen umsetzen :-(
>
> Danke,
> Martin
From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Time auf zwei BS
Date: 18 May 1998 04:02:42 GMT
Organization: DX-Team - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Moin!
Ich finde es ziemlich blöd, dass ich, wenn ich OS/2 die RICHTIGE Uhrzeit
einstelle, unter NeXT die Zeit falsch eingestellt ist (minus zwei Stunden)
:-(
Ich lasse bei einer IP-Verbindung via NeXT die Zeit zwar aktualisieren, aber
wenn ich dann wieder unter WARP boote, ist dort die Zeit um 2 h versetzt....
Gibt es da eine Möglichkeit, das zu synchronisieren?
[Das Sommerzeitupdate von NEXTSTEP ist drin!]
--
Joerg Sievers
22143 Hamburg, Germany
eMail: jogi2@vossnet.de (NeXTMail welcome!)
jsi@stardivision.de (StarOffice-Mail welcome!)
*DX-Team since 1988*
From: Olaf Foellinger <of@bln.sesa.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Time auf zwei BS
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:54:15 +0200
Organization: Unlimited Surprise Systems, Berlin
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Joerg Sievers schrieb:
>
> Moin!
>
> Ich finde es ziemlich blöd, dass ich, wenn ich OS/2 die RICHTIGE Uhrzeit
> einstelle, unter NeXT die Zeit falsch eingestellt ist (minus zwei Stunden)
> :-(
>
> Ich lasse bei einer IP-Verbindung via NeXT die Zeit zwar aktualisieren, aber
> wenn ich dann wieder unter WARP boote, ist dort die Zeit um 2 h versetzt....
>
> Gibt es da eine Möglichkeit, das zu synchronisieren?
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/tools/hack/TimeShift.I.bs.tar.gz
Gruß Olaf
From: Henrik Hempelmann <hh@actis.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Time auf zwei BS
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:45:27 +0200
Organization: Actis in Berlin GmbH
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Joerg Sievers wrote:
>
> Moin!
>
> Ich finde es ziemlich blöd, dass ich, wenn ich OS/2 die RICHTIGE Uhrzeit
> einstelle, unter NeXT die Zeit falsch eingestellt ist (minus zwei Stunden)
> :-(
>
> Ich lasse bei einer IP-Verbindung via NeXT die Zeit zwar aktualisieren, aber
> wenn ich dann wieder unter WARP boote, ist dort die Zeit um 2 h versetzt....
>
> Gibt es da eine Möglichkeit, das zu synchronisieren?
Was richtig und was falsch ist, ist leider auch diesmal nur relativ ...
Unix (und damit auch der NeXT) gehen von einer Uhr aus, die auf GMT
laeuft, auf die dann die Zeitzone aufaddiert wird. Bei OS/2, Windows
und anderen DOS-Derivaten wird die Uhrzeit der eingebauten Uhr
uebernommen und lediglich mit der eingestellten Zeitzone markiert.
Loesung? Hmm, fuer linux gibt es da ein kleines Programm ...
Aber Du kannst ja in einem der RC-Files bei booten die Zeit einfach per
date um eine oder zwei Stunden zuruecksetzen. Nicht schoen, aber ...
Henrik
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Nicht Telnet-/Ftp-/.. Benutzer?
Date: 18 May 1998 08:40:51 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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kann man unter NEXTSTEP 3.3 einen Benutzer einrichten, der sich nur an der
Console einloggen kann, der also von außen nicht per telnet, ftp, rlogin,
ssh, rsh usw. auf die Maschine zugreifen kann? Und das vielleicht noch
ohne Paßwort? Also der NeXT als "öffentliches Terminal" sozusagen?
--
Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui)
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From: matthias@:-)factum-gmbh.de (Matthias Schürhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: EOF und Datenbank-Login
Date: 18 May 1998 09:52:59 GMT
Organization: FACTUM Projektentwicklung und Management GmbH
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Tag allerseits,
weiß jemand, wie ich in einer EOF-Applikation an das Datenbanklogin (userName
im SybaseAdaptor) herankomme? Über das connectionDictionary des models bzw.
des Adapters scheint's jedenfalls nicht zu gehen, das liefert immer nur einen
Leerstring...
Viele Grüße
Matthias
===========================================================
Matthias Schürhoff
FACTUM Projektentwicklung und Management GmbH, Dortmund
E-Mail: matthias@factum-gmbh.de (NeXT & MIME mail ok)
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Apache laesst sich nicht compilieren!
Date: 19 May 1998 06:45:38 GMT
Organization: "private site"
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Olaf Foellinger wrote:
> uname liegt als Skript vor, wurde mal in den News gepostet, hier noch
mal als
> Wiederholung
> -m) mach="`hostinfo | sed -n 's/.*Processor type:
\([^]*\).*/\1/p'`" ;;
Ich bekomme nur
sed: Unexpected End-of-file
> -p) processor="`hostinfo | \ sed -n 's/.*Processor
> type:[^]*(\([^)]*\).*/\1/p'`" ;;
Funktioniert bei mir nicht, gibt nur
uname: sed: not found
aus. Warum? Was muss man ändern?
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
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From: Gregor Kowalewski <gregork@gauss.fo.fh-koeln.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Apache laesst sich nicht compilieren!
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:59:56 +0200
Organization: Schumann Unternehmensberatung AG Koeln
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Hallo,
beim Versuch den Apache 1.2.6 auf NeXT Step 3.3 (intel) zi installieren
bin ich klaeglich gescheitert. Und zwar laesst sich der Skript ./Config
nicht fehler frei ausführen.
-er meldet, daß er uname nicht finden kann
- dann sieht es so aus als waere alles in ordnung (NeXT STEP wird
erkannt (wieso?????))
- am Schluß meldet er aber, dass er den MAKEfile nicht generieren kann
Hat jemand eine idee wie ich da weiter kommen kann?
Guesse und Dank
Gregor
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Subject: Re: Apache laesst sich nicht compilieren!
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In <35604CEC.4F8229D6@gauss.fo.fh-koeln.de> Gregor Kowalewski wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> beim Versuch den Apache 1.2.6 auf NeXT Step 3.3 (intel) zi installieren
> bin ich klaeglich gescheitert. Und zwar laesst sich der Skript ./Config
> nicht fehler frei ausführen.
>
> -er meldet, daß er uname nicht finden kann
> - dann sieht es so aus als waere alles in ordnung (NeXT STEP wird
> erkannt (wieso?????))
> - am Schluß meldet er aber, dass er den MAKEfile nicht generieren kann
Unter OS4.2 läuft es ohne Probleme mit dem Einstellungen
EXTRA_CFLAGS= -arch i386
CC=cc
Die Version 1.2.5 für NextStep liegt auf peanuts unter
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/unix/network/www/apache.1.2.5.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
uname liegt als Skript vor, wurde mal in den News gepostet, hier noch mal als
Wiederholung
---------------------------
#!/bin/sh
#
# uname
#
# Author: Jim Vlcek, ByteWare Consulting (uunet!molly!vlcek) 3 Dec 1993
# Tweaked-By: Larry Blische (lkba!lkb@uunet.uu.net)
# Warped-By: Tom Hageman (tom@basil.icce.rug.nl) 8 Dec 1993
#
# An attempt to implement a SysV-ish "uname" under NeXTStep 3.x
#
# Options
#
# -s Print the operating system name
# -n Print the node name (essentially, the hostname)
# -v Print the operating system version
# -r Print the operating system release
# -p Print the host machine's processor type
# -m Print the machine hardware name
# -a Print all the above information
#
# Non-SysV options
#
# -i Print the host identification number (hostid)
#
case "$*" in
"") set - -s ;;
*-a*) set - -s -n -v -r -p -m ;;
esac
for arg
do
case $arg in
-s) system="NEXTSTEP" ;;
-n) node="`uuname -l`" ;;
-r) release="`hostinfo | sed -n 's/.*NeXT Mach \([0-9\.]*\).*/\1/p'`" ;;
-m) mach="`hostinfo | sed -n 's/.*Processor type: \([^]*\).*/\1/p'`" ;;
-p) processor="`hostinfo | \ sed -n 's/.*Processor
type:[^]*(\([^)]*\).*/\1/p'`" ;;
-v) version="`tail -1 /usr/lib/NextStep/software_version`" ;;
-i) hostid="`hostid`" ;;
*) echo $0: Usage: $0 [-asnvrpmi] >&2 ; exit 1 ;;
esac
done
echo $system $node $version $release $processor $mach $hostid
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Gruß Olaf
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From: wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber)
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Date: 19 May 1998 08:19:57 GMT
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Hab guenstig eine NE2000 kompatible Karte (PCI, Winbond 940)
bekommen. Beim Hochfahren meldet der Peanuts'sche NE2000 Treiber
das 8Bit Karten nicht unterstuetzt werden (aha, keine PCI F„higkeit)
Der Autor schrieb mir dass er keine Zeit (Lust,...) hat deswegen was
zu tun.
Deshalb:
Arbeitet irgendjemand an einer aehnlichen Loesung des Problems?
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From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Apache laesst sich nicht compilieren!
Date: 19 May 1998 12:48:39 GMT
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Juergen Grieb wrote:
> Olaf Foellinger wrote:
>
> > uname liegt als Skript vor, wurde mal in den News gepostet, hier noch
> mal als
> > Wiederholung
>
> > -m) mach="`hostinfo | sed -n 's/.*Processor type:
> \([^]*\).*/\1/p'`" ;;
>
> Ich bekomme nur
>
> sed: Unexpected End-of-file
GNU sed compilieren. Sollte man sowieso tun.
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From: r.sokoll@intershop.de (Rainer Sokoll)
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Subject: Re: Apache laesst sich nicht compilieren!
Date: 19 May 1998 17:38:34 GMT
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Juergen Grieb <juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> wrote:
> Olaf Foellinger wrote:
>
> > uname liegt als Skript vor, wurde mal in den News gepostet, hier noch
> mal als
> > Wiederholung
>
> > -m) mach="`hostinfo | sed -n 's/.*Processor type:
> \([^]*\).*/\1/p'`" ;;
>
> Ich bekomme nur
>
> sed: Unexpected End-of-file
>
>
> > -p) processor="`hostinfo | \ sed -n 's/.*Processor
> > type:[^]*(\([^)]*\).*/\1/p'`" ;;
>
> Funktioniert bei mir nicht, gibt nur
>
> uname: sed: not found
>
> aus. Warum? Was muss man ändern?
Kann es sein, daß Du den Text vom Originalposting einfach per Maus
ausgeschnitten und in den Editor geworfen hast und daß dabei die Zeilenumbrüche
verlorengegangen sind?
Sieht mir fast so aus...
Gruß,
Rainer
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Subject: Re: Apache laesst sich nicht compilieren!
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In <6jr9qi$dk@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Juergen Grieb wrote:
> Olaf Foellinger wrote:
>
> > uname liegt als Skript vor, wurde mal in den News gepostet, hier noch
> mal als
> > Wiederholung
>
> > -m) mach="`hostinfo | sed -n 's/.*Processor type:
> \([^]*\).*/\1/p'`" ;;
>
> Ich bekomme nur
>
> sed: Unexpected End-of-file
>
>
> > -p) processor="`hostinfo | \ sed -n 's/.*Processor
> > type:[^]*(\([^)]*\).*/\1/p'`" ;;
>
> Funktioniert bei mir nicht, gibt nur
>
> uname: sed: not found
>
> aus. Warum? Was muss man ändern?
O.k., das Problem tritt bei mir auch auf, zumindest mit der Option -a. Aber zum Üb
ersetzen von apache hat's gereicht :-). Und das war die Ausgangsfrage.
Gruß Olaf
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From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.uunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 19 May 1998 22:23:46 GMT
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Haltet euch fest, denn was jetzt kommt ist so lächerlich, daß
man es kaum noch in Worte fassen kann:
--snip--
>From: Jordan Dea-Mattson >To: "Holger Hoffstaette" <hhoff@ragnarok.en.uunet.de>
>Cc: "Rhapsody Discussion List" <rhapsody@clio.lyris.net>
Dear Holger -
I will give you one of our reasons in one word: drivers. Are you aware
that IBM spent over a billion dollar on developing drivers for OS/2?
Apple doesn't have that kind of money.
Apple is willing to hear your input. But we have to hear a clear business
case. Can you show us $100 million in revenue from doing Rhapsody for
Intel? If you can build that kind of business case, drawing on the input
of other potential customers, then do so. Then forward it to the
appropriate Apple Execs. There are email addresses that are read by Steve
Jobs and others.
If you can't make the business case, with hard numbers, then a petition,
etc. would be a waste of time.
Yours,
Jordan
======
>Subject: Re: Migration off Rhapsody
>Date: 5/19/98 2:40 PM
>Received: 5/19/98 2:48 PM
>From: Holger Hoffstaette, hhoff@ragnarok.en.uunet.de>To: Jordan Dea-Mattson, jordan@apple.com
Hi Jordan,
I realize you're not an official spokesperson, but could you please tell
me (or maybe the rhapsody list) anyway if there's any point in trying to
tell Apple about how we (the customers) feel about the end-of-life of
Mach/x86? Could we maybe start some kind of 'petition'? Or is that a
fruitless attempt? The most puzzling thing is that the decision comes
without further notice, and for (seemingly) no good reason. I'm sure
Apple does have its reasons - but why aren't we told, in an open and
'official' manner?
Regards
Holger
--snip--
Mit anderen Worten: eine Firma mit weit über 8000 Angestellten kann
keine 5 oder 10 Leute abstellen, die ein paar Gerätetreiber schreiben,
für ein Betriebssystem, dessen CPU-spezifischer Anteil schon lange
existiert (bis auf das neue IOKit aka DriverKit).
Wie armselig.
Holger
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 20 May 1998 00:02:36 GMT
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In <6jt0pi$p55$1@goof.de.uu.net> Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
> ...
>
> Mit anderen Worten: eine Firma mit weit über 8000 Angestellten kann
> keine 5 oder 10 Leute abstellen, die ein paar Gerätetreiber schreiben,
> für ein Betriebssystem, dessen CPU-spezifischer Anteil schon lange
> existiert (bis auf das neue IOKit aka DriverKit).
> Wie armselig.
Ich kann Dir nur zustimmen... und was das ganz schlimme ist: sehr viele
glaeubige MacOS User & Developer werden diesen obigen Psalm nachsingen. Ey,
sogar Be, Inc. hat diese "100 Megabucks" uebrig (soviel ist die ganze Firma
nicht wert ;-)), schliesslich scheiben sie gerade fleissig Treiber fuer BeOS
fuer Intel.
Das ganze ist meiner Meinung nach eine rein politische Entscheidung:
Konzentration auf das PPC Geschaeft. Es haut IMHO in die gleiche Kerbe wie
die Nicht-Lizensierung der Mac-Roms fuer Clonehersteller, damit haben sie
sich diesen Markt wieder komplett 'gesichert'.
"Intel - das sind die anderen und 'wir' sind eh besser." - oder so aehnlich
denkt man oder eher wird propagiert.
Auch glaube ich das die Firma mit dem grossen 'M' da ungern ein aehnliches OS
auf Ihrer angestammten Platform (x86) sehen wuerde und falls die (ok, im
Moment koennen sie sich das nicht leisten, aber das kann sich ja wieder
aendern...) sagen 'No Office for MacOS X/Rhapsody' ist Schicht im Schacht.
Egal, meine Meinung bleibt: Apple sollte schleunigst mal einwenig different
thinken... denn Evolution nimmt keine Gefangenen.
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Date: 20 May 1998 07:47:00 +0100
From: nuppy@nuppy.harz.de (Niels Coelle)
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Hallo Frank!
frank@this.NO_SPAM.net meinte am 20.05.98
zum Thema "Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund für den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !":
> Auch glaube ich das die Firma mit dem grossen 'M' da ungern
> ein aehnliches OS auf Ihrer angestammten Platform (x86)
> sehen wuerde und falls die (ok, im Moment koennen sie sich
> das nicht leisten, aber das kann sich ja wieder aendern...)
> sagen 'No Office for MacOS X/Rhapsody' ist Schicht im
> Schacht.
Man darf dabei auch nicht vergessen, das M... Anteile an Apple hat und so
vieleicht Einfluss genommen haben koennte...
cu
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
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Subject: Re: Apache laesst sich nicht compilieren!
Date: 19 May 1998 20:00:38 GMT
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Rainer Sokoll wrote:
> Kann es sein, daß Du den Text vom Originalposting einfach per Maus
> ausgeschnitten und in den Editor geworfen hast und daß dabei die
Zeilenumbrüche
> verlorengegangen sind?
>
> Sieht mir fast so aus...
Äh ja, ich verstehe nicht ganz, worauf Du hinaus willst. Jede der case
Anweisungen steht in einer extra Zeile und die sind mit Return
abgeschlossen. Trotzdem funktioniert es nicht und ich weiss nicht, warum
sed sich beschwert.
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
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Subject: Re: Apache laesst sich nicht compilieren!
Date: 19 May 1998 19:57:54 GMT
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Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
> GNU sed compilieren. Sollte man sowieso tun.
Habe ich, auch mit sed 2.05 funktioniert es nicht.
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From: r.sokoll@intershop.de (Rainer Sokoll)
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Subject: Re: Apache laesst sich nicht compilieren!
Date: 20 May 1998 07:48:59 GMT
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Juergen Grieb <juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> wrote:
> Rainer Sokoll wrote:
>
> > Kann es sein, daß Du den Text vom Originalposting einfach per Maus
> > ausgeschnitten und in den Editor geworfen hast und daß dabei die
> Zeilenumbrüche
> > verlorengegangen sind?
> >
> > Sieht mir fast so aus...
>
> Äh ja, ich verstehe nicht ganz, worauf Du hinaus willst. Jede der case
> Anweisungen steht in einer extra Zeile und die sind mit Return
> abgeschlossen. Trotzdem funktioniert es nicht und ich weiss nicht, warum
> sed sich beschwert.
Wenn Dein Skript so wie in Deinem Posting aussieht, kann es nicht gehen:
-----------------8<-----------------
> -m) mach="`hostinfo | sed -n 's/.*Processor type:
\([^]*\).*/\1/p'`" ;;
Ich bekomme nur
sed: Unexpected End-of-file
-----------------8<-----------------
Weil die Anweisung für den sed nicht abgeschlossen ist. Zeilenumbruch bedeutet
Ende.
-----------------8<-----------------
> -p) processor="`hostinfo | \ sed -n 's/.*Processor
> type:[^]*(\([^)]*\).*/\1/p'`" ;;
Funktioniert bei mir nicht, gibt nur
uname: sed: not found
-----------------8<-----------------
Das ist wirklich komisch. Oben beschwert sich sed, hier gibts gar keinen?
Ich vermute mal, daß durch den Backslash vor sed das Kommando " sed" gesucht
wird, das es natürlich nicht gibt.
Deshalb denke ich, daß Du die Zeilenumbrüche vermengeliert hast. Wichtig ist
auch, daß nach einem Backslash am Zeilenende der Zeilenumbruch _direkt_ folgen
muß, also ohne Leerzeichen. Ansonsten wird das Leerzeichen anstelle des
Umbruchs gequoted.
Gruß,
Rainer
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
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Subject: latex2html
Date: 20 May 1998 07:16:32 GMT
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Hallo,
ich ersuche gerade latex2html zu installieren. Leider bekomme ich bei
Ausführung von install-script folgende Fehlermeldung:
Main script installation was... 0 1 ...successful.
Testing availability of external programs...
Perl version 5.004 is OK.
texexpand was found.
Setting up texexpand script...1 ...succeeded
Checking for availability of DBM or NDBM (Unix DataBase Management)...
*** ERROR: AnyDBM_File doesn't define a TIEHASH method at (eval 4) line 1
You will not be able to use latex2html.
Ich habe mir extra von Peanuts ein aktuelles Perl für NS geholt. Da ich
mich Perl gar nicht auskenne, stehe ich etwas ratlos da.
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From: Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de>
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund für den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 11:57:08 +0200
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Sicherlich ist die Beteiligung kein Grund für einen solche Einflußnahme.
... Ist diese dazu nicht zu gering?
Sicherlich ist der Kostenaufwand für die Treiberentwicklung nicht der wahre
Grund.
... Wie konnte NeXT recht viele Treiber bieten?
Sicherlich ist die Entscheidung eine strategische, wenn für viele auch extrem
ärgerlich
... Wollen wir nicht alle unsere Investitionen sichern?
Was soll ich aber mit einer Intel-Dose mit dem komplizierten HW-WirrWarr?
... Effektiv kostet so eine Kiste doch mehr, wenn die Installationzeit und der
Installationärger mit einberechnet wird. Es wird eine sauberes System
ausgetestet, daß z.B. heisst, ASUS, Adaptec (1.25), ATI, Intel,... und dann
geht's eine zeitlang.
Eigentlich haben wir doch keine Interesse uns an eine HW-Plattform zu ketten,
es sein
denn die Kosten sind im ähnlichen Bereich wie die, anderer Anbieter. Sollte
die
MacOS X/Rhapsody - Intel - Schiene vollständig tot sein, so ist das sehr zu
bedauern, zumal wir viele unsere Maschinen dann verschrotten dürften, weil wir
sie
nicht mehr verwenden können, außer für ein bischen NT.
Wichtig ist aber ersteinmal die Möglichkeit zur Crossentwicklung!!!!!!
Wenn die Menschen NT wollen, dann sollen Sie es nehmen - selber schuld - aber:
Unsere SW läuft!
Wenn die Menschen Solaris wollen, dann sollen Sie es nehmen - sicher und slow
- aber: Unsere SW läuft!
Wenn die Menschen HP-UX wollen, dann sollen Sie es nehmen - teuer - aber:
Unsere SW läuft!
Wenn die Menschen Mac OS X wollen, dann sollen Sie es nehmen - ??? - aber:
Unsere SW läuft!
Vielleicht sollte man die Überlegung dahingehend anstellen, daß das ein erster
Schritt ist, mit dem auch
wir sicherlich nicht zufrieden sind, aber wie lange gab es Nextstep nur für
einen Cube???
Es gab Stimmen, die laut wurden und sagten: "Ein neues Betriebssystem in gut
einem Jahr? Das kann ja nichts werden"
... Die kennen die Historie nicht, aber diesen Stimmen wird auch egal sein, ob
auf Ihrem Gehäuse steht "Intel inside".
Hauptsache Word und Excel, Photoshop und die ganzen anderen de-facto
Standards. TRAURIG ABER WAHR.
Es gibt Stimmen, die sagen "Rhapsody ist tot!
... Diese Menschen sagen auch Windows 95 zu Windows NT - Sollen Sie's doch
denken! Man sollte Sie auch nie danach fragen, welchen Kernel Mac(h) OS X
besitzt und was NFS bedeutet, sondern eher wie man einen Druckbefehl gibt.
Alles in allem ist die 'offizielle' Tod X86 ärgerlich und für uns mit Kosten
verbunden, aber nach dem Ärger, den wir in den letzten Wochen mit den neuen
Intel-Generationen hatten (ATX und so ein Schrott) bin ich persönlich gespannt
auf die nächsten Rechnergenerationen.
Gruesse
Frank
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From: Martin Spott <sk001sp@crimson.ihg.uni-duisburg.de>
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund f?r den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 20 May 1998 15:05:16 GMT
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In de.comp.sys.mac Holger Hoffstaette <hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.uunet.de> wrote:
> Mit anderen Worten: eine Firma mit weit über 8000 Angestellten kann
> keine 5 oder 10 Leute abstellen, die ein paar Gerätetreiber schreiben,
Vor allem leuchtet mir nicht ganz ein, weshalb Rhapsody/PPC gleich mit
darunter leiden sollte, dass fuer Rhapsody/x86 nicht genuegend Treiber
vorhanden sind,
Martin.
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From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund f?r den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 20 May 1998 17:13:14 GMT
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Martin Spott wrote:
> Vor allem leuchtet mir nicht ganz ein, weshalb Rhapsody/PPC gleich mit
> darunter leiden sollte, dass fuer Rhapsody/x86 nicht genuegend Treiber
> vorhanden sind,
MacOS X *IST* Rhapsody/PPC mit neuem Namen. Das ist doch nun wirklich
nicht soo schwer, oder?
Holger
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From: raketenschelm@hotmail.com
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund för den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 20 May 1998 19:12:30 GMT
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Cc: Jordan Dea-Mattson <jordan@apple.com>
Hello all,
I took a look at Jordan's response and I must say I'm really disappointed.
So, in this posting I try to collect some arguments for a further development
for X86 based Rhapsody systems.
First let me say that despite "carbon" the only reasonable long term API for
Apples operating system is YellowBox (OpenStep). I don't want to go into
details, but I see carbon as a Win32s kinda API, that helps (bigger, less
innovative) companies to transit to YellowBox. It's a legacy application API,
nothing that helps Apple in the future (actually if developers can't be
convinced to transit to YellowBox, the Mac is likely to vanish, since MacOS-X
has no edge over NT then)
> Dear Holger -
>
> I will give you one of our reasons in one word: drivers. Are you aware
> that IBM spent over a billion dollar on developing drivers for OS/2?
> Apple doesn't have that kind of money.
>
Actually I don't care how much money IBM spent for OS/2 drivers, we're
talking about Rhapsody here. Using the architecture of Rhapsody makes driver
development much easier, and Apple/NeXT already proved that with all the
OPENSTEP drivers. I really doubt, that NeXT spend a similar amount of money
for OPENSTEP driver development, but there are almost as much drivers out
there as for OS/2 (not to mention the good quality of those drivers).
BTW: After reaching a critical mass of installations most hardware vendores
will supply own drivers...
> Apple is willing to hear your input. But we have to hear a clear business
> case. Can you show us $100 million in revenue from doing Rhapsody for
> Intel? If you can build that kind of business case, drawing on the input
> of other potential customers, then do so. Then forward it to the
> appropriate Apple Execs. There are email addresses that are read by Steve
> Jobs and others.
>
First, it would be helpful to know these email addresses ;-) Maybe you could
publish them or forward this discussion to the right guys.
Regarding the business case, you really don't expect us to come up with a
detailed plan, how to make $100 million with an X86 port, do you? Maybe I can
do this if Apple hires me as consultant ;-) but seriously, I sense a kind of
arrogance here...
What would Apple need to make money with an X86 port of Rhapsody?
1) a good price for Rhapsody, that is attractive to students, businesses and
developers. Let's say Apple sells Rhapsody for X86 including development
tools for $100. (it can be more but has to be less than NT workstation, maybe
bundling with hardware can make the price more invisible)
2) to get $100 million revenue you need to sell 1 million copies then. Is it
that complicated? I don't know how many X86 computers are sold every year,
but one million CPU's are produced in less than a quarter (and only by one
smaller CPU company ;-), so is it so impossible to get less than 5% of the
X86 market attracted to Rhapsody? If I remember right, OS/2 had more than 3
million installations.
3)Strategy. In order to attract businesses Apple has to commit to support and
further develop Rhapsody. That includes drivers. OTOH since YelloBox is
portable across several platforms, the only thing that has to be especially
maintained for X86 computers are drivers and other hardware specific parts.
This is only a fraction of the development efforts for Rhapsody.
Third party developers will port their application to Rhapsody more likely
if the market is not focused on Macintosh machines, so the X86 platform
actually might help Rhapsody.
Once enough applications are available, businesses will get attracted to
Rhapsody in large scale (ten thousands of installations).
To believe that YellowBox for WindowsNT can yield the same results is IMHO
not likely. Providing the YellowBox runtime for NT puts Apple in the position
of reacting to MS. While MS is not very innovative they will always have an
edge on their own system, that can make YellowBox for NT applications appear
less attractive to users (just imagine MS changes the Look and Feel again and
it takes a new YellowBox runtime to match with it. In the meantime you'll end
up with a ugly mixture [like NT4.0 applications on NT3.5.1])
4) Marketing. Apple's marketing should change to include non Macintosh users.
If you run Rhapsody you should feel like a Macintosh user, no matter if you
have an iMac or just a slow Pentium-II-400 system that gets smoked by Apple
hardware. The X86 platform is fast enough by all means. The comfort and ease
of use is always better for such tailored hardware, but PC's are still
cheaper. The fact that you don't need to by a new computer to run Rhapsody
will make a lot of people interested (the Linux effect). Most of those would
never buy a Macintosh (so I don't think it hurts Apples hardware sales much)
to run/test Rhapsody if they already have a computer (who doesn't?).
So "think different" should apply to everyone as long as one runs Rhapsody.
To respond to Apples last announcements/statements/rumors regarding Rhapsody,
if Apple really wants to make money with the Rhapsody 1.0 release, they
should sell it for all platforms - long term. Nobody will be crazy enough to
buy a X86 version if it's not clear that Apple will sell further X86
releases. The whole situation reminds me on the NEXTSTEP3.3 port for HP
workstations that made quite a few people upset about NeXT. I hope that Apple
doesn't copy that kind of marketing.
Maybe one last statement. Within the next 10 years the X86 world will transit
to new, 64bit (non X86 compatible) platforms. One will be IA64, another one
can be ALPHA (or MIPS?). All Windows users will have to migrate to a new
platform - long term. The future will be more platform independent, Java
based on not. A crucial part of that transition is the availability of a
Windows system that runs on that new platform and provides serious user
benefits. Right now it seems that MS already has problems to innovate
WindowsNT on one well-known platform (X86). Attempts to make NT an accepted
system on several platforms failed. If Apple could take that chance to
provide a well designed, powerful, easy to use operating system that already
runs Rhapsody applications, wouldn't that give Apple a serious advantage?
I'd like to see an Alpha port of Rhapsody in addition to X86, not only to
give the Pixar guys the most cost effective computer for 3D but also to be
prepared fo the 64 bit future of the X86 platform.
> Mit anderen Worten: eine Firma mit weit öber 8000 Angestellten kann
> keine 5 oder 10 Leute abstellen, die ein paar GerÙtetreiber schreiben,
> för ein Betriebssystem, dessen CPU-spezifischer Anteil schon lange
> existiert (bis auf das neue IOKit aka DriverKit).
> Wie armselig.
>
I agree, it would make Apple look pretty poor not having enough ressources
for driver development.
Patrick.
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From: Gabor Freivogel <gabor@ARGEthesis.hal.uunet.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Architekten AVA Programm unter Openstep???
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 21:27:46 +0200
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Hallo,
vor ca. 2 oder 3 Jahren hiess es, dass eine Firma (in Hamburg) ein Bau
- Auschreibungsprogramm unter Nexstep entwickelt, was bereits in der
Testphase war... (leider wollte man mir damals nicht mehr verraten).
Da wir im B=FCro nicht mehr um sowas herumkommen k=F6nnen, wollte ich di=
ese
Frage noch stellen, bevor ich ein von diesen uns=E4glich schlechten DOS
oder Windows Programmen kaufen werde die den Deutschen Markt dominieren.
Ich w=E4re sehr dankbar f=FCr jede diesbez=FCgliche Info. Vielleicht gib=
t es
doch noch Alternativen.....
Bitte um direkte mails, ich werde Sie sp=E4ter zusammenfassen.
Danke
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From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Matror Productiva
Date: 21 May 1998 10:12:18 GMT
Organization: ICOL GmbH
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Gibt es einen Treiber für OpenStep 4.2 für die Matrox Productiva G100?
Alex
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund f?r den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 21 May 1998 15:20:00 GMT
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In <6jv2va$rqs$2@leonie.object-factory.com> Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
> Martin Spott wrote:
> > Vor allem leuchtet mir nicht ganz ein, weshalb Rhapsody/PPC gleich mit
> > darunter leiden sollte, dass fuer Rhapsody/x86 nicht genuegend Treiber
> > vorhanden sind,
>
> MacOS X *IST* Rhapsody/PPC mit neuem Namen. Das ist doch nun wirklich
> nicht soo schwer, oder?
Minus ein paar Features... DPS, NXHosting-Mechanismus, etc... was ist
eigentlich an dem Geruecht dran das auch NFS das Zeitliche segnen soll
(zugunsten von Apfelsprech)?
Ach ja, das Default-Filesystem wird doch glaube ich auch HFS+ ...
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 21 May 1998 16:00:35 GMT
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In <6uDgWFUCLiB@nuppy.harz.de> Niels Coelle wrote:
> Hallo Frank!
>
> frank@this.NO_SPAM.net meinte am 20.05.98
> zum Thema "Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund für den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !":
>
> > Auch glaube ich das die Firma mit dem grossen 'M' da ungern
> > ein aehnliches OS auf Ihrer angestammten Platform (x86)
> > sehen wuerde und falls die (ok, im Moment koennen sie sich
> > das nicht leisten, aber das kann sich ja wieder aendern...)
> > sagen 'No Office for MacOS X/Rhapsody' ist Schicht im
> > Schacht.
> Man darf dabei auch nicht vergessen, das M... Anteile an Apple hat und so
> vieleicht Einfluss genommen haben koennte...
Hört doch endlich mit diesen lächerlichen 150 Mio. $$ auf! M***** hat ein
paar stimmlose Aktien gekauft, sonst nix.
Ich denke auch, daß da Mr. Gates seine Finger im Spiel hat. An den Treibern
kann es nicht liegen,schließlich wurde einem ja doch gepredigt, daß es soooo
einfach ist, Treiber zu entwickeln und daß man rund 70 Prozent des Codes
bestehender Treiber übernehmen kann. Also müßte Apple sich nur mal zwei
Wochen hinsetzen und die bestehenden Treiber überarbeiteten. So klein ist
schließlich die Basis von OPENSTEP nun auch nicht.
Gerald
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 21 May 1998 16:19:21 GMT
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In <3562A8F4.A7878F36@inis.de> Frank Knobloch wrote:
> Alles in allem ist die 'offizielle' Tod X86 ärgerlich und für uns mit
Kosten
> verbunden, aber nach dem Ärger, den wir in den letzten Wochen mit den neuen
> Intel-Generationen hatten (ATX und so ein Schrott) bin ich persönlich
gespannt
> auf die nächsten Rechnergenerationen.
Hallo Frank!
Klar, PPCs sind besser. Darum geht es aber nicht.
Apple will/braucht Marktanteile! Folglich könnte man mit einer x86-Version
die Leute von Windows wegziehen, ohne daß sie sofort neue Hardwar kaufen
brauchen. Sie werden eh schnell feststellen, daß PPCs besser sind und dann
diese kaufen. Mit der Strategie ist deutlich mehr zu verkaufen, meines
erachtens.
Apple will mit Rhapsody vor allem in den Server/Hochschulmarkt! Viele Server
laufen derzeit auf NT, also auf Intel-Maschinen. Kein Administrator wird sich
einen PPC kaufen, um mal "zu testen". Kein Student kann und wird es sich
leisten, Linux plus Hardware aufzugeben, um Rhapsody einzusetzen. (Wer es
nicht weiß, Rhapsody soll preispolitisch ziemlich aggressiv in den
Linux-Markt vorstoßen). Diese beiden Märkte sind jetzt schon tot.
Gruß, Gerald
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund f?r den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 21 May 1998 23:15:55 GMT
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In <6k1gn0$67i$1@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> In <6jv2va$rqs$2@leonie.object-factory.com> Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
> > Martin Spott wrote:
> > > Vor allem leuchtet mir nicht ganz ein, weshalb Rhapsody/PPC gleich mit
> > > darunter leiden sollte, dass fuer Rhapsody/x86 nicht genuegend Treiber
> > > vorhanden sind,
> >
> > MacOS X *IST* Rhapsody/PPC mit neuem Namen. Das ist doch nun wirklich
> > nicht soo schwer, oder?
>
> Minus ein paar Features... DPS, NXHosting-Mechanismus, etc... was ist
> eigentlich an dem Geruecht dran das auch NFS das Zeitliche segnen soll
> (zugunsten von Apfelsprech)?
Hi Mr. Post(script)man!
Also auf der WWDC wurde NFS 3.0 groß propagiert. Ob das jetzt nur Rhapsody
braf, weiß ich nicht genau.
Gerald
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 22 May 1998 06:05:53 GMT
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Moin!
In <6jt0pi$p55$1@goof.de.uu.net> Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
>
> Haltet euch fest, denn was jetzt kommt ist so lächerlich, daß
> man es kaum noch in Worte fassen kann:
(DEL)
Sollte APPLE es wirklich wagen MacOS X (=OPENSTEP mit Apfelhintergrund :-)
nicht auf intel-Archtiketur anzubieten, ist Apple mit samt seiner Plattform
tot!
Trauern wird dann keiner.....doch....eine kleine Schaar NeXTler, die es gerne
gesehen hätten, wenn sie ein neues OS auf ihren Maschinen bekommen hät
ten......
Das Ding "MacOS X" zu nennen ist auch nicht sehr klug, denn "Mac...." hat so
ein angestaubtes Image.....Besser waere "OpenMac 6.0" oder so gewsen....denn
der grosse Teil basiert ja auf Openstep und nicht auf MacOS.
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 22 May 1998 08:19:53 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
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Gerald Erdmann (gerald@stepman.com) wrote:
: [...]
: Apple will mit Rhapsody vor allem in den Server/Hochschulmarkt! Viele Server
: laufen derzeit auf NT, also auf Intel-Maschinen. Kein Administrator wird sich
: einen PPC kaufen, um mal "zu testen". Kein Student kann und wird es sich
: leisten, Linux plus Hardware aufzugeben, um Rhapsody einzusetzen. (Wer es
: nicht weiß, Rhapsody soll preispolitisch ziemlich aggressiv in den
: Linux-Markt vorstoßen). Diese beiden Märkte sind jetzt schon tot.
Ich gehe sogar noch weiter. Wir haben hier in der Theoretischen Physik
nun insgesamt ca. 40 unter NEXTSTEP oder OPENSTEP laufende Maschinen.
Einmal ist es fuer uns vom Hardware-Erneuerungs-Zyklus absolut undenkbar
soviele Maschinen auszutauschen, schon gar nicht auf einmal - es sind ja
auch 'moderne' (PentiumPro, Pentium II) darunter -, zum anderen bedeutet
schon der Umstieg auf Rhapsody *ohne* Hardwareaustausch (vermutlich) eine
fuer uns gewaltige Investition. Schliesslich laufen alle unsere bisherigen
Binaries, darunter diverse kommerzielle, nicht mehr.
Und eh ich fuer Rhapsody neue 'fuer ein Jahr' anschaffe, was ich wohl auch
wirtschaftlich nicht rechtfertigen koennte, muesste ich dann eher die
Plattform wechseln.
Da ferner bei uns UNIX ein (un)geschriebenes Gesetz ist und ich dem
Windows 9x auf jeden Fall entgehen moechte, bliebe uns hier nur der
Wechsel zu LINUX!
Ich habe bisher NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP uneingeschraenkt vertreten, aber was
sich Apple da seit der letzten WWDC mit uns (mir?) erlaubt, laesst in
mir einen sauren Geschmack hochkommen.
Wenn ich schon Hohn und Spott dafuer einstecken muss, eine 'so ausgefallene'
(und das war nicht positiv von den Kritikern gemeint) Plattform unter-
stuetzt und sogar propagiert zu haben, so lasse ich das nicht zweimal mit
mir machen. Sollte sich Apple was Rhapsody angeht von Intel verabschieden
oder auch nur nicht langfristig (mind. 3 Jahre) zu dieser Plattform
verpflichten, dann war's das hier.
Das so ein Gefuehl sich auf meine Einschaetzung von Apple und deren
Chancen hier zukuenftig in der Hochschule ein Rolle zu spielen massiv
auswirken wird, ist, glaub' ich, verstaendlich.
Noch hoffe ich, bin aber sehr pessimistisch geworden und muss mit
Erstaunen feststellen, dass die MacOS-Gemeinde, so wie sie sich
z.B. in 'rhapsody-talk@omnigroup.com' praesentiert schlimmer ist
als die Wintel-Gemeinde; die sind wenigstens meist nicht snobistisch.
Aber in dieser Liste wurde in den letzten 14 Tagen fast jede Entscheidung
von Apple von MacOS-Anhaengern beklatscht, auch wenn sich die Aussagen
in der Zeit um 180 Grad gedreht haben. Und dabei haben die oft so wenig
Know-How, dass sie sich von Wintel-Benutzern noch 'ne Scheibe abschneiden
koennten.
Das sie (Wintel-Bentzern gegenueber) in der gleichen Lage sind, wie
OPENSTEP-Benutzer ihnen gegenueber, naemlich eine verschwindende Minderheit,
scheinen sie gar nicht begriffen zu haben und das so, ihrer eigenen
Aussage zufolge, Apple eigentlich verschwinden muesste.
[Ich kann mich ihrer Logik nicht anschliessen, sondern halte es mehr
mit dem Spruch: Millionen Fliegen koennen sich nicht irren, Sch... muss
gut sein. Na ja.]
Think different, maybe. Think twice, think again!!!
Mit traurigen Gruessen,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de>
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund für den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:08:36 +0200
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To: Gerald Erdmann <gerald@stepman.com>
Hallo
Gerald Erdmann schrieb:
> Hallo Frank!
Hallo Gerald ;-)
> Klar, PPCs sind besser. Darum geht es aber nicht.
Schon klar!
> Apple will/braucht Marktanteile! Folglich könnte man mit einer x86-Version
> die Leute von Windows wegziehen, ohne daß sie sofort neue Hardwar kaufen
> brauchen. Sie werden eh schnell feststellen, daß PPCs besser sind und dann
> diese kaufen. Mit der Strategie ist deutlich mehr zu verkaufen, meines
> erachtens.
Ich denke mal, daß man mit Rhapsody auf Intel erst einmal Ausschau hält und
siehtwie die Reaktionen sind. Habe ich einen Intel und bin mit dem Know-How schon
soweit,d
daß ich weiß wie man ein Linux runterfährt, dann werde ich auch mal Rhapsody
testen, sonst nicht!
Was will der potentielle W95-User? Der hat schon genug Ärger mit seinem System
und ist froh, wenn
das läuft.
Ich glaube, ihr denkt, es gibt im privaten consumer-bereich viele mit Eurem
Wissen. Leider ist das nicht so.
Der Großteil schreckt vor neuen Systemen und GUI's zurück und wird sich an
Rhapsody-Intel nicht rantrauen.
Die paar Tausend, die es im privaten Bereich tun, sind sicherlich für Apple
uninteressant!
Ein Unterhehmen stellt erst recht nicht so mir nichts dir nichts mal eben so um.
Nicht umsonst ist dort WfW noch
oft vertreten.
Die allgemeinen Depressionen bzgl. Apple sind lächerlich. Rhapsody gibt es und es
hat einen Namen und das auch in den
nächsten Jahren.
> Apple will mit Rhapsody vor allem in den Server/Hochschulmarkt! Viele Server
> laufen derzeit auf NT, also auf Intel-Maschinen. Kein Administrator wird sich
> einen PPC kaufen, um mal "zu testen". Kein Student kann und wird es sich
> leisten, Linux plus Hardware aufzugeben, um Rhapsody einzusetzen. (Wer es
> nicht weiß, Rhapsody soll preispolitisch ziemlich aggressiv in den
> Linux-Markt vorstoßen). Diese beiden Märkte sind jetzt schon tot.
Hier ist gerade ein Problem. Die Hoschulen, die den traurigen Schritt wagen
NT-Server einzusetzen sindfroh, wenn das läuft und der Etat erlaubt keine
Umstellung-egal, ob mit oder ohne neuer Hardware.
Einige Unternehmen merken bereits, daß NT-Netze teurer sind als Unix-Netze (Total
Cost of Ownership),
mal sehen, was die tun werden.
Es ist richtig, daß sich kein Student die HW-Aufgabe leisten kann, leider!
Der Studie kann aber ersteinmal mit den Rhapsody/Intel Versionen arbeiten. Was
wir ein Rechner in einem Jahr denn noch
kosten??
So long...
Frank
From: Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund für den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:12:04 +0200
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To: Gerald Erdmann <gerald@stepman.com>
Hallo
Gerald Erdmann schrieb:
> Hallo Frank!
Hallo Gerald ;-)
> Klar, PPCs sind besser. Darum geht es aber nicht.
Schon klar!
> Apple will/braucht Marktanteile! Folglich könnte man mit einer x86-Version
> die Leute von Windows wegziehen, ohne daß sie sofort neue Hardwar kaufen
> brauchen. Sie werden eh schnell feststellen, daß PPCs besser sind und dann
> diese kaufen. Mit der Strategie ist deutlich mehr zu verkaufen, meines
> erachtens.
Ich denke mal, daß man mit Rhapsody auf Intel erst einmal Ausschau hält und
siehtwie die Reaktionen sind. Habe ich einen Intel und bin mit dem Know-How schon
soweit,d
daß ich weiß wie man ein Linux runterfährt, dann werde ich auch mal Rhapsody
testen, sonst nicht!
Was will der potentielle W95-User? Der hat schon genug Ärger mit seinem System
und ist froh, wenn
das läuft.
Ich glaube, ihr denkt, es gibt im privaten consumer-bereich viele mit Eurem
Wissen. Leider ist das nicht so.
Der Großteil schreckt vor neuen Systemen und GUI's zurück und wird sich an
Rhapsody-Intel nicht rantrauen.
Die paar Tausend, die es im privaten Bereich tun, sind sicherlich für Apple
uninteressant!
Ein Unterhehmen stellt erst recht nicht so mir nichts dir nichts mal eben so um.
Nicht umsonst ist dort WfW noch
oft vertreten.
Die allgemeinen Depressionen bzgl. Apple sind lächerlich. Rhapsody gibt es und es
hat einen Namen und das auch in den
nächsten Jahren.
> Apple will mit Rhapsody vor allem in den Server/Hochschulmarkt! Viele Server
> laufen derzeit auf NT, also auf Intel-Maschinen. Kein Administrator wird sich
> einen PPC kaufen, um mal "zu testen". Kein Student kann und wird es sich
> leisten, Linux plus Hardware aufzugeben, um Rhapsody einzusetzen. (Wer es
> nicht weiß, Rhapsody soll preispolitisch ziemlich aggressiv in den
> Linux-Markt vorstoßen). Diese beiden Märkte sind jetzt schon tot.
Hier ist gerade ein Problem. Die Hoschulen, die den traurigen Schritt wagen
NT-Server einzusetzen sindfroh, wenn das läuft und der Etat erlaubt keine
Umstellung-egal, ob mit oder ohne neuer Hardware.
Einige Unternehmen merken bereits, daß NT-Netze teurer sind als Unix-Netze (Total
Cost of Ownership),
mal sehen, was die tun werden.
Es ist richtig, daß sich kein Student die HW-Aufgabe leisten kann, leider!
Der Studie kann aber ersteinmal mit den Rhapsody/Intel Versionen arbeiten. Was
wir ein Rechner in einem Jahr denn noch
kosten??
So long...
Frank
From: jut@ukrv.de (Jens-Uwe Thieme)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 22 May 1998 09:38:59 GMT
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Hallo,
nun muss ich auch noch meinen Frust loswerden..., wir haben hier ja mit ueber
150 Maschinen unter NS/OS (99,9 % INTEL) eine ganze Installation zu
verlieren, moegliche Alternativen einen medizinischen Frontends unter dem
Micro$chrott Logo stehen schon vor der Tuer und warten nur auf einen
Kapitulierung unsererseits. Was bisher Dank unseres Einsatzes, dem unserer
Entwickler und der Stabilitaet von NS/OS keiner schaffte, scheint Apple jetzt
gelungen zu sein, mit dem Tod von MacOS X Intel stirbt auch der letzte Funke
Trotz gegen das WinTel-Kartell und auch ein Teil Innovation im medizinischen
Sektor in Deutschland.
Was uns bleibt waere eine Umstellung auf M$ eNTe, wer moechte das
administrieren (ekel, wuerg, renn), fahren von OS oder Rhapsody bis
es keiner mehr haben will, oder die Segel ganz zu streichen.
Danke Apple wer so different think't sollte mal den Arzt wechseln, wir sind
gern bereit hier im Klinikum zu helfen.
CIAO
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From: moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Möllney)
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In <6ju00g$di@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Juergen Grieb wrote:
> Hallo,
Hallo
>
> ich ersuche gerade latex2html zu installieren. Leider bekomme ich bei
> Ausföhrung von install-script folgende Fehlermeldung:
>
> Main script installation was... 0 1 ...successful.
> Testing availability of external programs...
> Perl version 5.004 is OK.
> texexpand was found.
> Setting up texexpand script...1 ...succeeded
> Checking for availability of DBM or NDBM (Unix DataBase Management)...
> *** ERROR: AnyDBM_File doesn't define a TIEHASH method at (eval 4) line 1
>
> You will not be able to use latex2html.
>
> Ich habe mir extra von Peanuts ein aktuelles Perl för NS geholt. Da ich
> mich Perl gar nicht auskenne, stehe ich etwas ratlos da.
>
Ich stand vor kurzer Zeit auch vor diesem Problem. Netterweise war eine Lös
ung recht einfach, die mir Constantin Szallies zugemailt hat. Ich hoffe er
hat nichts dagegen, wenn ich seine Lösung hier nochmal aufzeige:
From: Constantin Szallies <szallies@energotec.de>
Date: Wed, 20 May 98 16:53:07 +0200
To: Michael Mollney <moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de>
Subject: Re: latex2html: ERROR: AnyDBM_File doesn't define a TIEHASH method
Damit latex2html funktioniert:
Als root:
cd /
mkdir NEXTSTEP
cd NEXTSTEP
ln -s /usr usr
Perl sucht nach der Datenbank library in /NEXTSTEP/usr/lib!!
Gruss
>
>
Man sollte aller dings auch Perl dazu bringen können, woanders zu suchen.
Vielleicht waere das eine bessere Loesung....
Bis dann, Michael
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From: Stefan.Bleeck@(remove_this)gl15.Bio.TH-Darmstadt.DE (Stefan Bleeck)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: latex2html
Date: 22 May 1998 10:41:36 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> ich ersuche gerade latex2html zu installieren. Leider bekomme ich bei
> Ausführung von install-script folgende Fehlermeldung:
>
> Main script installation was... 0 1 ...successful.
> Testing availability of external programs...
> Perl version 5.004 is OK.
> texexpand was found.
> Setting up texexpand script...1 ...succeeded
> Checking for availability of DBM or NDBM (Unix DataBase Management)...
> *** ERROR: AnyDBM_File doesn't define a TIEHASH method at (eval 4) line 1
>
> You will not be able to use latex2html.
>
> Ich habe mir extra von Peanuts ein aktuelles Perl für NS geholt. Da ich
> mich Perl gar nicht auskenne, stehe ich etwas ratlos da.
>
>
ich habe schon viele vergnuegliche Stunden mit der Installation von
latex2html in verschiedenen Versionen zugebracht. Die Zahl der möglichen
Fehler dabei ist größer als die Zahl der Teilchen im bekannten Universum.
Dein Fehler sieht nach einer fehlerhaften dbm database aus, wie die Meldung
ja sagt. Ich erinnere mich, in irgendeinem config file einige Zeilen, die
AnyDBM_File enthielten, einfach rauskommentiert zu haben. Danach lief es ganz
passabel. (Ausser das meine Bilder immer 256 mal so gross sind, wie sie seien
sollten) Der Fehler sieht ansonsten nicht nach einem perl Fehler aus.
Solange du keine Gleichungen brauchst, brauchst du aber auch die dbm database
nicht und solltest latex2html schon benuetzen koennen.
Stefan
From: Christoph Ewering <eweri@uni-paderborn.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?iso-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:47:37 +0200
Organization: uni-paderborn.de
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To: Jens-Uwe Thieme <jut@ukrv.de>
Jens-Uwe Thieme wrote:
> =
> Hallo,
> =
> nun muss ich auch noch meinen Frust loswerden..., wir haben hier ja mit=
ueber
> 150 Maschinen unter NS/OS (99,9 % INTEL) eine ganze Installation zu
> verlieren, moegliche Alternativen einen medizinischen Frontends unter d=
em
> Micro$chrott Logo stehen schon vor der Tuer und warten nur auf einen
> Kapitulierung unsererseits. Was bisher Dank unseres Einsatzes, dem unse=
rer
> Entwickler und der Stabilitaet von NS/OS keiner schaffte, scheint Apple=
jetzt
> gelungen zu sein, mit dem Tod von MacOS X Intel stirbt auch der letzte =
Funke
> Trotz gegen das WinTel-Kartell und auch ein Teil Innovation im medizini=
schen
> Sektor in Deutschland.
> =
> Was uns bleibt waere eine Umstellung auf M$ eNTe, wer moechte das
> administrieren (ekel, wuerg, renn), fahren von OS oder Rhapsody bis
> es keiner mehr haben will, oder die Segel ganz zu streichen.
Hallo Jens-Uwe!
Rhapsody ist nicht tot!
MacOS X ist kein Ersatz f=FCr die Yellow Box.
Du wirst dich also nicht dem b=F6sen NT ergeben m=FCssen.
Dieses ganze Gelabere =FCber den Tod von Rhapsody ist alles
M=FCll und wird meistens von "Fachjournalisten" gef=FChrt,
die vom Fach keine Ahnung haben.
Schau einfach mal unter =
http://www.macnn.com/reality/ nach.
Was mich mehr =E4rgert, ist das ich jetzt so lange warten mu=DF
bis ich Rhapsody habe. Es hatte gehei=DFen, das die DR2 mit
einem MACH 3.0-Kernel ausgeliefert wird, dann k=F6nnte die auch
auf meinem 4400 laufen. (MkLinux l=E4uft n=E4hmlich)
Mit MacOS X stellt sich die Frage ob es jemals auf so einem =
Rechner laufen wird.
Bis denn,
Christoph
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:23:13 +0200
From: Edbert van Eimeren <vanEimeren@home.ivm.de>
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Holger Hoffstaette schrieb:
>
> Haltet euch fest, denn was jetzt kommt ist so lächerlich, daß
> man es kaum noch in Worte fassen kann:
>
> --snip--
>
> >From: Jordan Dea-Mattson <jordan@apple.com>
> >To: "Holger Hoffstaette" <hhoff@ragnarok.en.uunet.de>
> >Cc: "Rhapsody Discussion List" <rhapsody@clio.lyris.net>
>
> Dear Holger -
>
> I will give you one of our reasons in one word: drivers. Are you aware
> that IBM spent over a billion dollar on developing drivers for OS/2?
> Apple doesn't have that kind of money.
>
> Apple is willing to hear your input. But we have to hear a clear business
> case. Can you show us $100 million in revenue from doing Rhapsody for
> Intel? If you can build that kind of business case, drawing on the input
> of other potential customers, then do so. Then forward it to the
> appropriate Apple Execs. There are email addresses that are read by Steve
> Jobs and others.
>
> If you can't make the business case, with hard numbers, then a petition,
> etc. would be a waste of time.
>
> Yours,
>
> Jordan
> ======
> >Subject: Re: Migration off Rhapsody
> >Date: 5/19/98 2:40 PM
> >Received: 5/19/98 2:48 PM
> >From: Holger Hoffstaette, hhoff@ragnarok.en.uunet.de
> >To: Jordan Dea-Mattson, jordan@apple.com
>
> Hi Jordan,
>
> I realize you're not an official spokesperson,
Rumors, rumors, rumors. !!!
> but could you please tell
> me (or maybe the rhapsody list) anyway if there's any point in trying to
> tell Apple about how we (the customers) feel about the end-of-life of
> Mach/x86? Could we maybe start some kind of 'petition'? Or is that a
> fruitless attempt? The most puzzling thing is that the decision comes
> without further notice, and for (seemingly) no good reason. I'm sure
> Apple does have its reasons - but why aren't we told, in an open and
> 'official' manner?
>
> Regards
> Holger
>
> --snip--
>
> Mit anderen Worten: eine Firma mit weit über 8000 Angestellten kann
> keine 5 oder 10 Leute abstellen, die ein paar Gerätetreiber schreiben,
> für ein Betriebssystem, dessen CPU-spezifischer Anteil schon lange
> existiert (bis auf das neue IOKit aka DriverKit).
> Wie armselig.
Wenn das so einfach wäre mit den Treibern, dann würde es für Linux wohl alle
Treiber geben. Dem ist wie man in diversen News Gruppen nachlesen kann ganz
und garnicht so.
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From: paragram@gmx.net (Florian Cramer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:37:26 +0100
Organization: Permutations
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Christoph Ewering <eweri@uni-paderborn.de> wrote:
> Rhapsody ist nicht tot!
>
> MacOS X ist kein Ersatz für die Yellow Box.
Hier scheinen - mindestens - zwei Dinge durcheinanderzugehen.
- Rhapsody ist ein Mach/BSD-basiertes Betriebssystem mit Yellow Box
(erweitertes OpenStep-API) und Blue Box (Mac-Emulation). Version 1.0
wird voraussichtlich dieses Jahr erscheinen von Apple parallel zu MacOS
8.x als Server-OS vermarktet werden. Eine Version für Intel-PCs (ohne
BlueBox) ist geplant.
- MacOS X ist der Nachfolger sowohl von Rhapsody, als auch von MacOS.
Sein technischer Aufbau entspricht wesentlich dem von Rhapsody; d.h. es
enthält Mach, BSD, Blue Box und Yellow Box. Hinzu kommt jedoch "Carbon",
ein Subset des MacOS/Toolbox-APIs, mit dem bestehende Mac-Software
einfach an MacOS X (ehemals Rhapsody) angepaßt werdem kann, ohne im
Emulationsmodus laufen zu müssen.
- Was in MacOS X wegfällt: Display Postscript weicht zugunsten eines
modifizierten QuickDraw. Damit bricht MacOS X die Kompabilität zu
OpenStep, wahrscheinlich geht auch die Netzwerkfähigkeit der
Bildschirmausgabe verloren. Das Default-Dateisystem wird außerdem HFS+.
- Was vor allem in MacOS X wegfällt (bitte mal die genaue Subject-Line
dieses threads lesen), ist die Crossplatformfähigkeit. Es wird kein
MacOS X für Intel geben, und da MacOS X der designierte Nachfolger von
Rhapsody ist, wird es bald auch kein OpenStep/Rhapsody für Intel mehr
geben. Punkt.
> Dieses ganze Gelabere über den Tod von Rhapsody ist alles
> Müll und wird meistens von "Fachjournalisten" geführt,
> die vom Fach keine Ahnung haben.
Nun ja...
Florian
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From: paragram@gmx.net (Florian Cramer)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:37:30 +0100
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Edbert van Eimeren <vanEimeren@home.ivm.de> wrote:
> Wenn das so einfach wäre mit den Treibern, dann würde es für Linux wohl alle
> Treiber geben. Dem ist wie man in diversen News Gruppen nachlesen kann ganz
> und garnicht so.
Unter Linux/x86 laufen nicht:
- Windows-proprietärer Hardware (GDI-Drucker, "WinModems")
- Nagelneue Hardware; hier brauchen freie Programmierer natürlich etwas
länger, um Treiber nachzuliefern, zumal viele Firmen die Spezifikationen
ihrer Produkte nicht herausrücken.
Unter Linux/86 läuft:
- So ziemlich jede erdenkliche, exotische PC-Hardware, die man sich
vorstellen kann.
Gerade Linux scheint mir für Deine Argumentation ein schlecht gewähltes
Beispiel zu sein.
Florian
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 22 May 1998 14:20:02 GMT
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In <6k3cf9$g2q1@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> H.-R. Oberhage wrote:
> Ich habe bisher NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP uneingeschraenkt vertreten, aber was
> sich Apple da seit der letzten WWDC mit uns (mir?) erlaubt, laesst in
> mir einen sauren Geschmack hochkommen.
Geht mir aehnlich... Ich kann zwar einige der Entscheidungen verstehen (im
Sinne von geistig Nachvollziehen) - aber gutheissen kann ich sie nicht.
> Noch hoffe ich, bin aber sehr pessimistisch geworden und muss mit
> Erstaunen feststellen, dass die MacOS-Gemeinde, so wie sie sich
> z.B. in 'rhapsody-talk@omnigroup.com' praesentiert schlimmer ist
> als die Wintel-Gemeinde; die sind wenigstens meist nicht snobistisch.
> Aber in dieser Liste wurde in den letzten 14 Tagen fast jede Entscheidung
> von Apple von MacOS-Anhaengern beklatscht, auch wenn sich die Aussagen
> in der Zeit um 180 Grad gedreht haben. Und dabei haben die oft so wenig
> Know-How, dass sie sich von Wintel-Benutzern noch 'ne Scheibe abschneiden
> koennten.
Die Arroganz und schiere Dummheit einiger Evangelisten der MacOS-Gemeinde ist
ungeschlagen.... da gebe ich Dir Recht.
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From: ako@luebeck.netsurf.de (Aleksander Jensko)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:07:28 +0200
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
> Das Ding "MacOS X" zu nennen ist auch nicht sehr klug,
Tatsächlich nicht so der Hit, mich persönlich läßt es an die Generation
X denken: grunge, schludrige Klamotten, Nirvana, H, nichtssagende Musik,
no future... (nix für ungut, bin mitte 30 ;-) Oder soll das eine
Anspielung an Douglas Copland sein?
>denn "Mac...." hat so
> ein angestaubtes Image.....
Interessant. Könntest Du das genauer formulieren? Was ist denn IYHO
nicht "angestaubt"? Linux?
Gruß
Aleksander
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Subject: FS:Next Hardware
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From: Matthias Heidbrink <*NOSPAM*mh@cs.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NeXTstation color, NeXTStep 3.3 (mit "dem" Patch): Wie funktioniert der Timerstart?
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 21:46:24 +0100
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Hi,
ich habe mit meiner NeXTstation folgendes Problem:
M=F6chte ich sie timergesteuert "zu festgelegter Zeit" anstellen, so
schaltet sie sich sofort nach dem Ausschalten (h=F6rbar, Platte parkt,
L=FCfter geht aus) wieder ein. Ich habe Schaltzeiten von wenigen Minuten
bis mehreren Stunden ausprobiert.
Mache ich etwas falsch, ist da etwas defekt oder bedeutet diese
Anschaltzeit vielleicht (abweichend von der Onlinehilfe), da=DF der
Rechner um diese Zeit garantiert laufen soll?
Wie und wo speichert der Rechner Schaltzeiten, gibt es evtl. ein
Kommandozeilentool dazu?
Ciao, Matthias
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: latex2html
Date: 22 May 1998 16:30:51 GMT
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Cc: Stefan.Bleeck@
remove_this)gl15.Bio.TH-Darmstadt.DE (Stefan Bleeck wrote:
> ja sagt. Ich erinnere mich, in irgendeinem config file einige Zeilen,
die
> AnyDBM_File enthielten, einfach rauskommentiert zu haben. Danach lief
es ganz
> passabel. (Ausser das meine Bilder immer 256 mal so gross sind, wie sie
seien
Ich habe es mittlerweile am laufen. Ich habe einfach die
Orginal-Perl-Sourcen geholt und diese neu compiliert. Da hat es dann
sofort funktioniert.
Jetzt habe ich eine TeX-Datei, die ich gerne nach html wandeln will. Es
enthält viele .eps Bilder, die natürlich nach gif gewandelt werden
sollen. Beim latex2html Lauf bekomme ich aber viele seltsame Meldungen a
la
pstoimg: Cannot find file
/User/juergen/tmp/Version1.3/benutzereinfuehrungsheft/l2h1929/image014.ps:
No such file or directory
Error while converting image: No such file or directory
Wie binde in .eps "sauber" ein, so dass es keine Fehler gibt? Und was
bedeutet obiger Fehler?
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: latex2html
Date: 22 May 1998 19:48:15 GMT
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moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Möllney) wrote:
> Perl sucht nach der Datenbank library in /NEXTSTEP/usr/lib!!
>
> Man sollte aller dings auch Perl dazu bringen können, woanders zu suchen.
Natürlich kann man das. Allerdings nur beim Kompilieren.
Ich vermute, Du hast ein vorkompiliertes Binary benutzt?
Wer war denn der Autor des Package? Hast Du ihn schon angemailt? Das ist ein
Bug dieses Package, der klarerweise korrigiert werden sollte.
> Vielleicht waere das eine bessere Loesung....
Vielleicht? Sicher!
Tschau
Uli
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From: Matthias Heidbrink <*NOSPAM*mh@cs.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?iso-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 22:35:49 +0100
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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Moin Edbert,
> > I will give you one of our reasons in one word: drivers. Are you awar=
e
> > that IBM spent over a billion dollar on developing drivers for OS/2?
Ja und? IBM hat fast nur Treiber f=FCr die Hardware geschrieben, die sie
selbst in ihren eigenen Rechnern ausgeliefert haben. Das waren eben eine
Menge unterschiedlicher Komponenten. Alles andere (Netzwerkkarten,
SCSI-Karten, Grafikkarten, ...) kam direkt von den anderen
Hardwareherstellern. =
Bisher mu=DFte man sich f=FCr OS/2 oder NeXTstep eben die Hardware kaufen=
,
f=FCr die es Treiber gab, wobei die Auswahl bei NeXTstep noch mindestens
eine Gr=F6=DFenordnung kleiner war als bei OS/2 und das System sich
anscheinend trotzdem verkauft hat. =
Niemand kann ernsthaft verlangen, da=DF jede Wald-und-Wiesen-Hardware vom=
Betriebssystemhersteller unterst=FCtzt werden mu=DF. Wenn Apple an sich
solche Anspr=FCche stellt und daraus folgert, da=DF das nicht zu schaffen=
sei und deshalb die ganze Produktlinie aufs Abstellgleis schiebt, dann
ist das einfach nur ein Witz.
Wenn man sich geschickt genug anstellt, braucht man in Treiber gar nicht
viel zu investieren. Zum Beispiel ist bei QNX
(Microkernel-Echtzeit-Betriebssystem, das sich dadurch auszeichnet, da=DF=
eine Demoversion incl. IP-Stack und WWW-Browser auf eine 1,44MB-Diskette
pa=DFt) ein generischer Grafiktreiber dabei, der alle Grafikkarten
ansprechen kann, die ihren Speicher in einen linearen Adre=DFraum mappen
k=F6nnen, also alle moderneren Karten. IBM hat vor kurzem mit den neueste=
n
Fixpacks f=FCr OS/2 eine neue Grafikarchitektur namens GRADD eingef=FChrt=
,
die anscheinend =E4hnlich arbeitet und bei der sich die Treiberpakete f=FC=
r
mehrere grundverschiedene Karten nur noch in wenigen kleinen Dateien
unterscheiden.
> Wenn das so einfach w=E4re mit den Treibern, dann w=FCrde es f=FCr Linu=
x wohl alle
> Treiber geben. Dem ist wie man in diversen News Gruppen nachlesen kann =
ganz
> und garnicht so.
Entweder bist Du noch auf dem Stand von den Anfangszeiten von Linux vor
mehreren Jahren oder Du verwechselst da irgendetwas. Abgesehen von
propriet=E4rer Hardware, wo die Hersteller sich weigern, die notwendige
Dokumentation herauszugeben, d=FCrfte es kaum ein Betriebssystem geben,
das so viel unterschiedliche Hardware unterst=FCtzt. Teils sogar sehr
exotische Hardware, f=FCr die Du keine Windows-Treiber bekommen wirst.
Man sieht zwar in den Linux-Newsgroups immer wieder Leute verzweifelte
Hilferufe absetzen, die vor dem Kauf nicht glauben wollten, da=DF das "nu=
r
f=FCr Windows" auf der Packung ihres neuesten Windows-GDI-Druckers oder
der neuesten Ballerspiel-3D-Videokarte ernstzunehmen war, aber es gibt
leider immer wieder Leute, die zu bl=F6d sind, als da=DF man ihnen helfen=
k=F6nnte. Niemand kauft einen Gebrauchtwagen, ohne einen Fachmann zu
fragen, aber bei einem Computer in der gleichen Preislage oder den
Einzelteilen daf=FCr h=E4lt das komischerweise fast niemand f=FCr n=F6tig=
=2E
Ciao, Matthias
From: "Markus Wenzel" <Markus.Wenzel@brokat.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Der_'offizielle'_Grund_f=FCr_den_Tod_von_Rhapsody/x86_!?=
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:17:08 +0200
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Gerald Erdmann wrote in message <6k1k69$43j@mimi.stepman.com>...
> Apple will mit Rhapsody vor allem in den Server/Hochschulmarkt!
Dann wird's wohl beim Wollen bleiben. Rhapsody ist genausowenig ein
Serverbetriebssystem wie Openstep oder Nextstep, sondern geeignet
für eine Standalone- oder Desktop-Workstation. Als Server würde
ich eine Plattform bevorzugen, auf der man ohne Krämpfe (POSIX!!!)
Unix-Sourcen übersetzen, eine Uptime > 365 Tage erreichen
kann, und die eine bessere I/O-Performance bietet als Openstep.
From: jw@raven.inka.de (Josef Wolf)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 22 May 1998 21:42:34 +0200
Organization: PPCGer Germersheim, Germany
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In <6k1k69$43j@mimi.stepman.com> gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann) writes:
> Apple will mit Rhapsody vor allem in den Server/Hochschulmarkt! Viele Server
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (1)
>(Wer es
>nicht weiß, Rhapsody soll preispolitisch ziemlich aggressiv in den
>Linux-Markt vorstoßen).
Ich glaub' es nicht. Eine Abkehr von der Hoechstpreispolitik? Aber wie
vertraegt sich das damit, dass Apple in den server-Markt will?
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund für den Tod von Rhapsody/x86!
Date: 23 May 1998 02:04:29 GMT
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"Markus Wenzel" <Markus.Wenzel@brokat.de> wrote:
> Gerald Erdmann wrote in message <6k1k69$43j@mimi.stepman.com>...
> > Apple will mit Rhapsody vor allem in den Server/Hochschulmarkt!
> Dann wird's wohl beim Wollen bleiben. Rhapsody ist genausowenig ein
> Serverbetriebssystem wie Openstep oder Nextstep, sondern geeignet
> für eine Standalone- oder Desktop-Workstation. Als Server würde
> ich eine Plattform bevorzugen, auf der man ohne Krämpfe (POSIX!!!)
> Unix-Sourcen übersetzen, eine Uptime > 365 Tage erreichen
> kann, und die eine bessere I/O-Performance bietet als Openstep.
Und woher weißt Du, daß sich Rhapsody nicht diesbezüglich verbessert hat?
Daß Rhapsody keine Chance mehr bei Unis hat, liegt ganz allein an Apple's
braindead "No Rhapsody/Intel nach 1.0"-Politik. :-((
Tschau
Uli
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From: "Martin Spott" <Martin.Spott@uni-duisburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 23 May 1998 08:14:03 GMT
Organization: home
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In de.comp.sys.mac Christoph Ewering <eweri@uni-paderborn.de> wrote:
> Rhapsody ist nicht tot!
In seiner urspruenglich projektierten Form ist Rhapsody offensichtlich tot -
es sei denn, da aendert noch jemand seine Meinung. Als Quelle meiner
Information darf ich uebrigens die von Dir angegebene zitieren:
> Schau einfach mal unter
> http://www.macnn.com/reality/ nach.
Martin.
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From: moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Möllney)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: latex2html
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In <6k4kpv$5oh$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
> moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Mællney) wrote:
> > Perl sucht nach der Datenbank library in /NEXTSTEP/usr/lib!!
> >
> > Man sollte aller dings auch Perl dazu bringen kænnen, woanders zu
suchen.
>
> Natörlich kann man das. Allerdings nur beim Kompilieren.
>
> Ich vermute, Du hast ein vorkompiliertes Binary benutzt?
genau
>
> Wer war denn der Autor des Package? Hast Du ihn schon angemailt? Das ist
ein
> Bug dieses Package, der klarerweise korrigiert werden sollte.
perl -v
This is perl, version 5.004_02
Copyright 1987-1997, Larry Wall
Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the
GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5.0 source kit.
Aus dem README
*** Packaged for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP by Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl>
1997/08/22
Da ich mich mit Perl nicht besonders auskenne ... koennte ich Dich bitten,
ihm das Problem zu erlaeutern
Waere nett, Danke, Michael
>
> > Vielleicht waere das eine bessere Loesung....
>
> Vielleicht? Sicher!
>
>
> Tschau
> Uli
>
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: latex2html
Date: 23 May 1998 04:56:33 GMT
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Uli Zappe wrote:
> Natürlich kann man das. Allerdings nur beim Kompilieren.
Eben, als ich nämlich selber kompiliert habe, hat es funktioniert.
> Ich vermute, Du hast ein vorkompiliertes Binary benutzt?
Ja.
> Wer war denn der Autor des Package? Hast Du ihn schon angemailt? Das
ist ein
> Bug dieses Package, der klarerweise korrigiert werden sollte.
Äh, habe kein Readme dazu geholt, deshalb weiss ich es nicht. Lag auf
Peanuts und war die Version 5.004_2
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86!
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In <6k5ard$bdv$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
> Daß Rhapsody keine Chance mehr bei Unis hat, liegt ganz allein an Apple's
> braindead "No Rhapsody/Intel nach 1.0"-Politik. :-((
Ja, leider stellt sich dieses Problem auch bei einigen Firmen, die einfach
nach 'oben' die Anschaffung von PPC Hardware wegen 'strategischer'
Ausrichtungen nur schwer rechtfertigen koennen. Rhapsody/Intel waere in
diesem Fall ein Tueroeffner gewesen.
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 23 May 1998 12:21:41 GMT
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In <6k34k1$8sj$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
> Das Ding "MacOS X" zu nennen ist auch nicht sehr klug, denn "Mac...." hat
so
> ein angestaubtes Image.....Besser waere "OpenMac 6.0" oder so
gewsen....denn
> der grosse Teil basiert ja auf Openstep und nicht auf MacOS.
Der Name soll wohl Kontinuitaet symbolisieren. Ich finde ihn auch unpassend,
wenn man einen Schnitt macht - und das ist MacOS X ja, oder? - dann sollte
man ihn auch so benennen.
Aber im Grossen und Ganzen ist mir der Name egal, sollen sie es 'ClosedBanana
99.9' nennen. Die Probleme liegen woanders.
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From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.uunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86!
Date: 23 May 1998 13:23:07 GMT
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Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> In <6k5ard$bdv$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
> > Daß Rhapsody keine Chance mehr bei Unis hat, liegt ganz allein an Apple's
> > braindead "No Rhapsody/Intel nach 1.0"-Politik. :-((
>
> Ja, leider stellt sich dieses Problem auch bei einigen Firmen, die einfach
> nach 'oben' die Anschaffung von PPC Hardware wegen 'strategischer'
> Ausrichtungen nur schwer rechtfertigen koennen. Rhapsody/Intel waere in
> diesem Fall ein Tueroeffner gewesen.
Ich hoffe ja, daß alle, die aufgrund dieser Entscheidung auch keine PPC
Hardware mehr kaufen werden/wollen, dies Apple mitteilen. Sonst
merkt man es da nämlich nicht, und am Ende ist das Unschuldsgejammer
wieder groß. Insbesondere Großkunden und sog. 'key accounts' (wie zum
Beispiel Deine, Frank :-) sind eher in der Lage, Apple die direkten
finanziellen Folgen dieser kurzsichtigen Entscheidung vor Augen zu
führen. Schade, daß Apple es bisher nicht für notwendig gehalten hat,
offen darüber zu sprechen. Ich möchte nur hoffen, daß auf der bald
stattfindenden Road Show quer durch alle Universitäten dieses Thema
offen erörtert und nicht einfach nur totgeschwiegen wird.
Holger
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: latex2html
Date: 23 May 1998 13:53:59 GMT
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juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) wrote:
> > Wer war denn der Autor des Package?
> Äh, habe kein Readme dazu geholt, deshalb weiss ich es nicht. Lag auf
> Peanuts und war die Version 5.004_2
War das ein nacktes Binary, oder ein Installer psckage? Im letzteren Fall
steht der Autor ja auch in dem unter Receipts abgelegten Package.
Tschau
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: latex2html
Date: 23 May 1998 14:03:57 GMT
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moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Möllney) wrote:
> > Wer war denn der Autor des Package?
> Copyright 1987-1997, Larry Wall
Ja, daß Larry Wall Perl geschrieben hat, ist klar. ;-)
Es ging eher um den Autor der vorkompilierten NEXTSTEP-Version...
> *** Packaged for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP by Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl>
> 1997/08/22
Aha, das ist er!
> Da ich mich mit Perl nicht besonders auskenne ... koennte ich Dich bitten,
> ihm das Problem zu erlaeutern
Von Tom gibt's währenddessen eine neuere Version (mit Perl 5.004_04). Die
solltest Du erstmal ausprobieren, ob der Fehler immer noch auftritt.
Falls das der Fall sein sollte, reicht es völlig, wenn Du Tom mailst, was Du
hier geschrieben hast; das reicht ihm.
Das Problem ist ja auch gar nicht Perl-spezifisch. Perl, aber auch viele
andere UNIX-Programme, stellen vor dem Kompilieren fest, welche
Ordnerstruktur auf dem Rechner, auf dem sie kompiliert werden, vorhanden ist,
und passen sich der genau an, weil sie davon ausgehen, auch auf eben diesem
Rechner dann verwendet zu werden.
Wenn jemand also für NEXTSTEP ein solches Programm vorkompiliert, dann muß er
peinlich genau darauf achten, daß auf seinem Rechner genau die Ordnersturktur
herrscht wie auch auf allen anderen NEXTSTEP-Rechnern üblich. Und da hat Tom
eben in einem Fall bei sich gegenüber der Standard-Ordnerstruktur offenbar
etwas verändert.
Tschau
Uli
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From: mocken@physik.uni-kl.de (Guido Mocken)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:01:09 +0200
Organization: Student
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Florian Cramer <paragram@gmx.net> wrote:
> Display Postscript weicht zugunsten eines
> modifizierten QuickDraw. Damit bricht MacOS X die Kompabilität zu
> OpenStep
Wieso? Ist DPS als von der YellowBox getrenntes API vorhanden?
Welche Grafikengine letztenendes das Malen übernimmt, ist doch egal,
solange es über die bisher vorhandenen APIs aufgerufen wird.
Das müßte mir schon einer näher begründen ... kann schon sein, daß
OpenStep-Komp. flöten geht (ich kenne mich da ja auch nicht aus!), aber
das hätte ich gerne etwas detaillierter erläutert.
Guido
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund für den Tod von Rhapsody/x86!
Date: 23 May 1998 17:59:44 GMT
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hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.uunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
> Ich möchte nur hoffen, daß auf der bald
> stattfindenden Road Show quer durch alle Universitäten dieses Thema
> offen erörtert und nicht einfach nur totgeschwiegen wird.
Ich frage mich, warum sie dazu eigentlich überhaupt noch antreten. Bei uns
könnten sie das jetzt gleich bleiben lassen. Aber ich sehe gerade, wir sind
eh nicht auf der Liste ;-) (Dabei gab es hier einiges Interesse an
Rhapsody...)
Tschau
Uli
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Wäre Rhaptel *besser* als MacOS X?
Date: 23 May 1998 18:10:15 GMT
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Hi,
eine ketzerische Frage:
wenn es stimmt, daß Carbon nicht auf Intel portiert würde (Apple sagt dazu im
Moment ja klar nein, auch wenn Carbon gerüchteweise dem auch auf Intel
laufenden Quicktime-Layer seeehr verwandt ist), dann könnten all die
Verwässerungen einer OO-Umgebung, die uns die Mac-Drittanbieter in Form von
Carbon, dem Carbon-Finder etc. liebenswürdigerweise aufgezwungen haben, auf
Rhapsody/Intel ja nicht stattfinden. Dort müßte alles YB und somit pur OO
sein.
Dummerweise wäre dann technisch gesehen Rhapsody/Intel das bessere
Betriebssystem als sein Mac-Pendant...
Ob Apple am Ende deswegen...???
Tschau
Uli
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 24 May 1998 11:02:23 GMT
Organization: DX-Team - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Hi!
Gib niemals auf :-) Und Christoph Ewerings Tip, einmal auf
http://www.macnn.com/reality/ zu schauen, brachte diese Meldung, die mich
hoffen läßt :-)
<schneid ab>
Finally, it has been officially stated by an Apple employee. Rhapsody Intel,
as we told you last week, will continue to be developed up to, and way beyond
Rhapsody for Intel v 1.0. Rhapsody for Intel will be the ideal server
solution, and will contain everything you have heard about up to this point,
plus a lot more. All Yellow Box MacOS X applications WILL run on Rhapsody
Intel, and ALL Rhapsody Intel applications will run on MacOS X. This includes
applications written in 100% pure Java using Yellow Box APIs.
The Yellow Box is completely cross platform. Rhapsody Intel will NOT include
a port of Carbon, and therefore will not run MacOS or Carbon applications.
The only way Rhapsody Intel could run Carbon applications would be for Apple
to port the Carbon APIs to Intel (see Star Trek NG). Apple currently states
that they have no intentions to do so.
Below is the unedited e-mail we received late last week.
----------------- Begin forward message -----------------
Subject: Re: Rhapsody/Yellow Box - RIP, Not!
From: Jordan Dea-Mattson <xxxxxx@apple.com>
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:04:25 -0700
Dear Julian -
Apple will be delivering Rhapsody 1.0 for Intel and will continue to
deliver Rhapsody for Intel. Bertrand stated this clearly in his keynote.
We are not planning Carbon for Rhapsody and we are not planning Carbon
for Windows. Yellow Box is our cross-platform API.
Yours,
Jordan
----------------- End forward message -----------------
Developer Release 2 of Rhapsody Intel is expected to arrive in developers
mailboxes in a couple of weeks. Rhapsody for Intel v 1.0 will contain mirror
that of the PPC version, with the exception of the Blue Box. Rhapsody for
Intel v 1.0 will contain the full MacOS UE, and look and feel.
<kleb´ dran>
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Date: 24 May 1998 11:22:08 GMT
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Hi!
In <1d9fp9e.1kdfu431evidt1N@ppp033.luebeck.netsurf.de> Aleksander Jensko
wrote:
> Interessant. Könntest Du das genauer formulieren? Was ist denn IYHO
> nicht "angestaubt"? Linux?
NeXT hat vielleicht das genialste Look&Feel und Apple baut alles aus um ihr
antiquiertes Look&Feel einzubauen - klasse echt klasse....dann fahre ich eben
NEXTSTEP 3.3 bis das uns der Tod scheidet :-)
Linux? Wenn ich einen Ferrari habe, fahre ich keinen Golf, den jeder fährt,
oder? NEXTSTEP ist mein Ferarri und wenn auch manchmal etwas unbequem, so
doch schnell, schön und bewundernswert.....
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From: stjg@ocserv.chemie.uni-hamburg.de (Stefan Jung)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Date: 24 May 1998 11:55:50 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
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Guido Mocken (mocken@physik.uni-kl.de) wrote:
: Florian Cramer <paragram@gmx.net> wrote:
: > Display Postscript weicht zugunsten eines
: > modifizierten QuickDraw. Damit bricht MacOS X die Kompabilität zu
: > OpenStep
: Wieso? Ist DPS als von der YellowBox getrenntes API vorhanden?
: Welche Grafikengine letztenendes das Malen übernimmt, ist doch egal,
: solange es über die bisher vorhandenen APIs aufgerufen wird.
: Das müßte mir schon einer näher begründen ... kann schon sein, daß
: OpenStep-Komp. flöten geht (ich kenne mich da ja auch nicht aus!), aber
: das hätte ich gerne etwas detaillierter erläutert.
DPS wird vom AppKit und FoundationKit zur Grafikausgabe benutzt. Apple
schreibt diese Shard Libraries um, so dass sie Quickdraw benutzen.
Wohlgemerkt ein neues Quickdraw, das ueber XGrafports verfuegt, die von der
Funktionalitaet alles bieten, was auch DPS bietet. Programme, die direkt
DPS-Befehle verwenden anstelle von z.B. NSBezierCurve aus dem AppKit, muessen
an exakt dieser Stelle modifiziert werden. Sonst nix.
: Guido
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: mocken@physik.uni-kl.de ** erscheint zwar leicht, doch ist es schwer,
: finger mocken@gypsy. ** man braucht ja nur mal nachzuschlagen,
: physik.uni-kl.de for PGP ** die meisten "signatures" brauchen mehr!"
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From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: RDR2 in Deutschland?
Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 14:25:43 +0200
Organization: Completely Disorganized
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Hallo!
Ist RDR2 schon bei jemand hier in Deutschland aufgetaucht? Oder auch nur
das (Apple-)Entwicklermailing fuer Mai...
Michael
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From: mocken@physik.uni-kl.de (Guido Mocken)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 16:30:43 +0200
Organization: Student
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Stefan Jung <stjg@ocserv.chemie.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
> DPS wird vom AppKit und FoundationKit zur Grafikausgabe benutzt. Apple
> schreibt diese Shard Libraries um, so dass sie Quickdraw benutzen.
Na also. So ähnlich dachte ich mir das.
> Programme, die direkt
> DPS-Befehle verwenden anstelle von z.B. NSBezierCurve aus dem AppKit, muessen
> an exakt dieser Stelle modifiziert werden. Sonst nix.
Die entscheidende Frage lautet dann wohl: Wieviele Programe sind davon
betroffen?
Guido
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In <19980524163043882478@meise151.wohnheim.uni-kl.de> Guido Mocken wrote:
> Stefan Jung <stjg@ocserv.chemie.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
>
> > DPS wird vom AppKit und FoundationKit zur Grafikausgabe benutzt. Apple
> > schreibt diese Shard Libraries um, so dass sie Quickdraw benutzen.
>
> Na also. So ähnlich dachte ich mir das.
>
> > Programme, die direkt
> > DPS-Befehle verwenden anstelle von z.B. NSBezierCurve aus dem AppKit,
muessen
> > an exakt dieser Stelle modifiziert werden. Sonst nix.
>
> Die entscheidende Frage lautet dann wohl: Wieviele Programe sind davon
> betroffen?
Die entscheidende Frage ist warum NeXT damals ueberhaupt DPS benutzt hat wenn
doch alles so problemlos und supergut mit einer Quickdraw-aehnlichen Library
funktioniert....?
Elvis lebt und ist heimgegangen....
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From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.uunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 24 May 1998 14:00:50 GMT
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Joerg Sievers wrote:
> Gib niemals auf :-) Und Christoph Ewerings Tip, einmal auf
> http://www.macnn.com/reality/ zu schauen, brachte diese Meldung, die mich
> hoffen läßt :-)
Tut mir ja leid, aber ich muß Deine Hoffnung leider dämpfen.
Die kleinlaute Ankündigung, Rhapsody/x86 nicht mehr weiterzuführen,
kam *nach* dem 13. Jordan wußte es zu diesem Zeitpunkt noch nicht.
Wahrscheinlich wußte es außer SJ nicht mal irgendjemand anders, was
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From: "Martin Spott" <Martin.Spott@uni-duisburg.de>
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
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In de.comp.sys.mac Stefan Jung <stjg@ocserv.chemie.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
> [...] Programme, die direkt
> DPS-Befehle verwenden anstelle von z.B. NSBezierCurve aus dem AppKit, muessen
> an exakt dieser Stelle modifiziert werden. Sonst nix.
Ganz einfach. Und wenn Dein Programm darauf beruht, quasi denselben Code
fuer Bildschirm- und Druckerausgabe zu verwenden, dann schreibst Du die
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da fehlt ja total der Thrill, wenn man das Dokument auf den Drucker schickt,
weil man schon vorher sieht, wie das Layout auf dem Drucker erscheinen wird,
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86!
Date: 24 May 1998 07:57:34 GMT
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In <6k5ard$bdv$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
> Und woher weißt Du, daß sich Rhapsody nicht diesbezüglich verbessert hat?
Weil das ein Wunder wäre. Apple und Next machen seit vielen Jahren
Betriebssysteme, aber ein richtiges Server-OS war bislang nicht dabei. Der
Vorsprung, den da z.B. Solaris hat, ist zu groß. Es hat ja nicht mal MS mit
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From: Helge Hess <helge@mdlink.de>
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Subject: Re: RDR2 in Deutschland?
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:16:15 +0200
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Michael Schuerig wrote:
>
> Hallo!
>
> Ist RDR2 schon bei jemand hier in Deutschland aufgetaucht? Oder auch nur
> das (Apple-)Entwicklermailing fuer Mai...
zu dem Thema wuerde mich interessieren wie schnell die Auslieferung
generell geschieht. Bei uns hat es ca 4 Monate gedauert bis wir die
erste Rhapsody-Developer CD in der Hand hielten. Die eigentlich
angeforderte Yellow-Box NT war aber nicht dabei, dafuer musste man
wieder ein Kaertchen abschicken (auf dem Lieferzeit 4-6 Wochen steht).
Ist das ('Apple') normal ?
Tschaui
Helge
From: pom@imsd.uni-mainz.de (Klaus Pommerening)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 25 May 1998 11:18:38 GMT
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In <6k6f0l$qou$3@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> Der Name soll wohl Kontinuitaet symbolisieren. Ich finde ihn auch
unpassend,
> wenn man einen Schnitt macht - und das ist MacOS X ja, oder? - dann
sollte
> man ihn auch so benennen.
>
MacOS X = MacOpenStep Extended? :-)
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From: mocken@physik.uni-kl.de (Guido Mocken)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:25:57 +0200
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Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.NO_SPAM.net> wrote:
> In <19980524163043882478@meise151.wohnheim.uni-kl.de> Guido Mocken wrote:
Hoppla: ------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hierzu eine Off-topic Frage: Ist das normal, daß man bei Newspostings
seine Rechner-IP offenlegt? Ich bin nämlich nicht sonderlich scharf
darauf, neben SPAM-Mail demnächst auch noch SPAM-Talk-Requests oder
ähnliches hier zu bekommen.
> Die entscheidende Frage ist warum NeXT damals ueberhaupt DPS benutzt hat wenn
> doch alles so problemlos und supergut mit einer Quickdraw-aehnlichen Library
> funktioniert....?
Na ja - so riesig scheint der Vorteil nicht gewesen zu sein, schließlich
hat NeXt nicht gerade die gesamte Grafikbranche mit seiner DPS
aufgerollt.
>
> Elvis lebt und ist heimgegangen....
He has left the building ...
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86!
Date: 25 May 1998 13:25:03 GMT
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In <6k6ijr$6j0@ragnarok.en.uunet.de> schrieb Holger Hoffstaette:
>
> Ich möchte nur hoffen, daß auf der bald
> stattfindenden Road Show quer durch alle Universitäten dieses Thema
> offen erörtert und nicht einfach nur totgeschwiegen wird.
Hallo Holger,
schoen waere es natuerlich, aber ich denke, dass das sowieso nicht
die Stellen erreicht, die entscheiden. Ich habe schon wg. diverser
Sachen mit Apple-Deutschland in Kontakt gestanden, und letztend-
lich ist dabei nur herausgekommen, daß sie entweder nichts wissen,
oder nichts wissen wollen.
Ich denke wenn ueberhaupt etwas Wirkung zeigt, dann eine Mail an die
richtigen Stellen bei Apple USA (vielleicht sjobs@apple.com). Und das in
Massen.
Ich hatte mal eine Mail an Jobs geschickt und bekam einen Tag spaeter ein
Read-Receipt und drei Tage später einen Anruf vom Apple-Chef Deutschland.
Ich denke das die Post also "drueben" gelesen wird.
Jens
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From: schuh@trytec.bo.uunet.de (Jens-Michael Schuh)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 25 May 1998 13:32:56 GMT
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In <6k34k1$8sj$1@news.vossnet.de> schrieb Joerg Sievers:
> Sollte APPLE es wirklich wagen MacOS X (=OPENSTEP mit Apfelhintergrund :-)
> nicht auf intel-Archtiketur anzubieten, ist Apple mit samt seiner
Plattform
> tot!
Apple wagt es und ist somit tot!
> Trauern wird dann keiner.....doch....eine kleine Schaar NeXTler, die es
gerne
> gesehen hätten, wenn sie ein neues OS auf ihren Maschinen bekommen hät
> ten......
Ja, wirklich schade.
> Das Ding "MacOS X" zu nennen ist auch nicht sehr klug, denn "Mac...." hat
so
> ein angestaubtes Image.....Besser waere "OpenMac 6.0" oder so
gewsen....denn
> der grosse Teil basiert ja auf Openstep und nicht auf MacOS.
MacOS X.....ts....ts.... selten bloeder Name.
Jens
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From: Wulf Hofbauer <wh@echo.chem.tu-berlin.de>
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund fuer den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
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Klaus Pommerening wrote:
> MacOS X = MacOpenStep Extended? :-)
MacOS X = MacOS unbekannt? Irgendwie spielt das doch alles auch keine
Rolle. Es wuerde mich sehr wundern, wenn Apple nicht spaetestens in 6
Monaten wieder eine ganz tolle neue Strategie namens "Symphony 08/15",
"CyberMacOS", "Vivaldi" oder "LastStep/StepBack" vorstellen wuerde, die
alles andere vom Markt fegen und in spaetestens 9 Monaten fertig sein
soll. (Laeuft natuerlich nur auf den derzeit aktuellen
HighPrice-Rechnern.)
OS-Entwicklung bei Apple sieht doch irgendwie so aus:
1. Entwurf der neuen Icons und Fensterdekoration
2. StarTrek ansehen und sich zu coolen (kewlen?) Gimmicks inspirieren
lassen
3. Menues des Finders/Dateimanagers/wasauchimmer und der Control Panels
haarklein festlegen
4. ...
99. Sich Gedanken um den Unterbau, die Machbarkeit und die Effizienz von
1-98 machen.
100. Goto 1
- Wulf
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: RDR2 in Deutschland?
Date: 25 May 1998 20:41:45 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6kcl29$5bm$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Helge Hess <helge@mdlink.de> wrote:
: Michael Schuerig wrote:
: >
: > Hallo!
: >
: > Ist RDR2 schon bei jemand hier in Deutschland aufgetaucht? Oder auch nur
: > das (Apple-)Entwicklermailing fuer Mai...
: zu dem Thema wuerde mich interessieren wie schnell die Auslieferung
: generell geschieht. Bei uns hat es ca 4 Monate gedauert bis wir die
: erste Rhapsody-Developer CD in der Hand hielten. Die eigentlich
: angeforderte Yellow-Box NT war aber nicht dabei, dafuer musste man
: wieder ein Kaertchen abschicken (auf dem Lieferzeit 4-6 Wochen steht).
: Ist das ('Apple') normal ?
Europa ist generell problematisch, weil alles erstmal nach Irland
oder was auch immer geschickt wird und von dort aus an die European-Devs
verteilt wird. Die amerikanischen Developer jedenfalls hatten die PPC DR2
CDs am Mittwoch der WWDC auf dem Schreibtisch. Ich werde mal posten, wie
der Zeitversatz bei der Intel-Version dann ist.
Das mit dem Kaertchen lag an den Lizenzgebuehren an Microsoft fuer
den Linker - man hatte wohl versucht, einen eigenen zu bauen, das aber
aufgrund von Microsoft nicht dokumentierter Features nicht fehlerfrei
hingekriegt.
Nun ist man ja gut Freund mit Microsoft und deshalb gibt es jetzt
den Linker umsonst und deshalb spart man sich diesmal auch die Postkarten-
Aktion.
--
Axel Habermann
kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund f?r den Tod von
Date: 25 May 1998 20:48:14 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6kclee$5bm$2@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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In de.comp.sys.next Martin Spott <Martin.Spott@uni-duisburg.de> wrote:
: In de.comp.sys.mac Stefan Jung <stjg@ocserv.chemie.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
: > [...] Programme, die direkt
: > DPS-Befehle verwenden anstelle von z.B. NSBezierCurve aus dem AppKit, muessen
: > an exakt dieser Stelle modifiziert werden. Sonst nix.
: Ganz einfach. Und wenn Dein Programm darauf beruht, quasi denselben Code
: fuer Bildschirm- und Druckerausgabe zu verwenden, dann schreibst Du die
: Bildschirmausgabe halt neu - mal eben waehrend 'ner Tasse Kaffee sozusagen.
: Es waere ja auch echt primitiv, wenn man sich im Layoutberereich den Vorteil
: der identischen Ausgabe auf Bildschirm und Drucker zunutze machen wuerde.
: Oder eine Graphikausgabe, fuer die man das Clipping mal soeben im
: Handumdrehen programmiert. Echt langweilig. Ausserdem vollkommen unspannend,
: da fehlt ja total der Thrill, wenn man das Dokument auf den Drucker schickt,
: weil man schon vorher sieht, wie das Layout auf dem Drucker erscheinen wird,
Hey Martin, Du machst Deinem Namen echt alle Ehre ;-)
Wie gross der Aufwand einer Portierung sein wird, haengt stark davon
ab, wie sehr Du die _Sprach_features von PostScript ausnutzst. Es wurde mehrfach
darauf hingewiesen, dass das Imaging Model von Postscript erhalten bleibt.
Statt pswraps muss man dann halt einzelne Drawing-Kommandos absetzen
und statt PSmoveto schreibt man dann moveto oder XQDmoveto oder was auch
immer.
Richtige Probleme wirst Du nur dann bekommen, wenn Du tatsaechlich
die Spracheigenschaft von DPS benutzt hast, worunter sicher ein Grossteil
der Programme faellt, die es zunaechst _nur_ unter NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP gegeben hat,
z.B. Postscript-Editoren wie Tailor und Druckertreiber wie Dots, JetPilot
und aehnliche.
Axel
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From: Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund für den Tod von Rhapsody/x86!
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 08:52:20 +0200
Organization: InIS * Innovative Informationssysteme GmbH
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> Weil das ein Wunder wäre. Apple und Next machen seit vielen Jahren
> Betriebssysteme, aber ein richtiges Server-OS war bislang nicht dabei. Der
> Vorsprung, den da z.B. Solaris hat, ist zu groß. Es hat ja nicht mal MS mit
> NT geschafft, den aufzuholen.
>
Die Devise: "Simply try harder!"
From: kdahlwitz@berlin.snafu.de (Klaus Dahlwitz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Message-ID (was: Der 'offizielle' Grund ...)
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 11:39:55 +0200
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Guido Mocken <mocken@physik.uni-kl.de> wrote:
> Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.NO_SPAM.net> wrote:
>
> > In <19980524163043882478@meise151.wohnheim.uni-kl.de> Guido Mocken wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [*]
> Hoppla: ------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Hierzu eine Off-topic Frage: Ist das normal, daß man bei Newspostings
> seine Rechner-IP offenlegt? Ich bin nämlich nicht sonderlich scharf
> darauf, neben SPAM-Mail demnächst auch noch SPAM-Talk-Requests oder
> ähnliches hier zu bekommen.
[*] Das ist die Message-ID Deiner Nachricht, die der News-Server, den
Du benutzt, generiert; sollte eindeutig sein.
Diese meine Nachricht bekommt erst dann eine Message-ID, wenn sie bei
meinem Provider eintrifft.
und tschuess
Klaus
From: tilo.schwarz@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Tilo Schwarz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Endliche Automaten
Date: 26 May 1998 10:18:58 GMT
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Hallo,
weiû jemand ein Tool, um endliche Automaten auf dem NeXT zu visualisieren?
Etwa so, wie Wood.app Baeume zeichnen kann. Ich moechte eine
Knoten/Kanten-Liste uebergeben und haette gerne einen Postscript-OutPut.
Gibt's vielleicht ein FAQ dazu?
Danke.
Bye
Tilo
--------------------
Tilo Schwarz, Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm, FT3/AB
Address: Wilhelm-Runge-Str.11, P.O. Box 23 60, 89013 Ulm, Germany
Phone: +49 731 505 2376
Email: tilo.schwarz@dbag.ulm.daimlerbenz.com
(NeXT- and MIME-Mail welcome)
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From: "Martin Spott" <Martin.Spott@uni-duisburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86!
Date: 26 May 1998 11:21:39 GMT
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Markus Wenzel <mow@navigator.de> wrote:
> [...] Apple und Next machen seit vielen Jahren
> Betriebssysteme, aber ein richtiges Server-OS war bislang nicht dabei. Der
> Vorsprung, den da z.B. Solaris hat, ist zu groß. Es hat ja nicht mal MS mit
> NT geschafft, den aufzuholen.
So ein 4.4BSD als Grundlage betrachte ich als excellente Voraussetzung fuer
ein Gelingen. WinNT als Vergleich heranzuziehen ist meines Erachtens etwas
verwegen, dessen Systemkern ist ja relativ neu zusammenstrickt,
Martin.
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From: stk@snafu.de (Stefan Haller)
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Subject: Re: Message-ID (was: Der 'offizielle' Grund ...)
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Klaus Dahlwitz <kdahlwitz@berlin.snafu.de> wrote:
> Guido Mocken <mocken@physik.uni-kl.de> wrote:
>
> > Hierzu eine Off-topic Frage: Ist das normal, daß man bei Newspostings
> > seine Rechner-IP offenlegt?
Ja, das ist normal.
Es ist allerdings unnötig, daß diese Message-ID beim Schreiben eines
Followups im Nachrichtentext zitiert wird.
> [*] Das ist die Message-ID Deiner Nachricht, die der News-Server, den
> Du benutzt, generiert;
Nein, oft wird die Message-ID schon vom Newsreader erzeugt, nicht erst
vom Newsserver. So zum Beispiel im Falle von Guido und von Dir selbst.
> Diese meine Nachricht bekommt erst dann eine Message-ID, wenn sie bei
> meinem Provider eintrifft.
Das stimmt nicht. Die Message-ID wird von Deinem Newsreader erzeugt und
enthält die aktuelle IP-Adresse Deines Macs (in Deinem Fall eine
dynamische Adresse, die bei jeder Einwahl anders ist).
--
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Berlin, Germany
http://www.snafu.de/~stk/
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From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
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Tilo Schwarz wrote:
> weiû jemand ein Tool, um endliche Automaten auf dem NeXT zu visualisieren?
> Etwa so, wie Wood.app Baeume zeichnen kann. Ich moechte eine
> Knoten/Kanten-Liste uebergeben und haette gerne einen Postscript-OutPut.
> Gibt's vielleicht ein FAQ dazu?
>
So adhoc faellt mir dazu nur Mathematica ein!
Auf dem Wolfram Research server (www.wri.com) gab es irgendwo ein nettes
Mathematica-Programm (Modul) hierfuer, welches die Automaten auch visuell
darstellt und ablaufen laesst, berechnungen erlaubt usw.! - Ein PS bzw. EPS
output aus Mathematica heraus zu erstellen ist ziemlich einfach (besonders auf
der NeXT, wo auch das copy/paste aus Mathematica heraus funktioniert).
Das einzige was Du natuerlich benoetigst ist eine NeXT Mathematica version ab
version 2.0 (unter Umstaenden reicht event. auch schon Mathematica 1.2, aber
bei der 2.0 weiss ich es definitiv, da ich es mit dieser ausprobiert hatte).
BTW, die endliche Automaten Mathematica-Software ist auch auf der WRI CD,
welche es vom Addison-Wesley Buchverlag gibt. Man findet sie u.a. auch bei den
Lehmann Buchhandlungen.
Eine reine NeXT-App a la Wood kenne ich hierfuer leider nicht, aber eventuell
was ja jemand anderes da mehr zu (?).
Ich hoffe es hilft Dir ein kleines Stueck weiter?
Gruss Valentino
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From: mmiss@aol.com (MMiss)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Q: NSNotification
Message-ID: <1998052621272100.RAA17967@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 26 May 1998 21:27:21 GMT
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Hallo,
ich bin neu in der Rhapsody-Welt (DR1/x86) und brauche unbedingt Hilfe.
Ich arbeite gerade an einer Applikation für Mess- und Prueftechnik und habe
eine Server-Applikation geschrieben, welche den ganzen I/O-Kram uebernimmt. Da
die einzelnen Aufrufe von wenigen Millisekunden bis zu einer halben Minute
dauern, ist es notwendig die Aufrufe asynchron zu handhaben. Jeder Aufruf
laeuft in einem Thread und funktioniert auch soweit.
Das Problem ist nun : wie kann ich meine Client-Applikation benachrichtigen,
das ein Vorgang (identifzierbar ueber eine ID) beendet ist ? Ist es moeglich
NSNotifications auch ueber Distributed Objects zu versenden oder gibt es eine
andere Moeglichkeit ?
Fuer Hilfe bzw. eine guten Tip waere ich sehr dankbar.
Vielen Dank im vorraus,
Marcus
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E-Mail : mmiss@aol.com
From: mocken@physik.uni-kl.de (Guido Mocken)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Message-ID (was: Der 'offizielle' Grund ...)
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 22:36:34 +0200
Organization: Student
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Stefan Haller <stk@snafu.de> wrote:
> Das stimmt nicht. Die Message-ID wird von Deinem Newsreader erzeugt und
> enthält die aktuelle IP-Adresse Deines Macs (in Deinem Fall eine
> dynamische Adresse, die bei jeder Einwahl anders ist).
In meinem Falle aber leider meine ganz persönliche statische IP -
deswegen bin ich ja auch so wenig begeistert davon. :-(
Da bleibt mir wohl nur, die News über irgendeinen Umweg in der Uni zu
posten ... grrrrr.
Guido
--
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mocken@physik.uni-kl.de ** erscheint zwar leicht, doch ist es schwer,
finger mocken@gypsy. ** man braucht ja nur mal nachzuschlagen,
physik.uni-kl.de for PGP ** die meisten "signatures" brauchen mehr!"
From: Thomas_Richter@t-online.de (Thomas Richter)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 26 May 1998 21:21:28 GMT
Message-ID: <6kfboo$cod$1@news01.btx.dtag.de>
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jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) wrote:
>Sollte APPLE es wirklich wagen MacOS X (=OPENSTEP mit Apfelhintergrund :-)
>nicht auf intel-Archtiketur anzubieten, ist Apple mit samt seiner Plattform
>tot!
>
>Trauern wird dann keiner.....doch....eine kleine Schaar NeXTler, die es gerne
>gesehen hätten, wenn sie ein neues OS auf ihren Maschinen bekommen hät
>ten......
Wir betreiben als Ur-NEXTSTEP-Verfechter (seit 1991/92) ungefähr 25
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Maschinen (davon noch 11 schwarze).
Neben dem (mehrstufigen) Netinfo-Netzwerk betrifft dies viele
eigenentwickelte DBKit-/EOF1.1-, FoundationKit-Anwendungen sowie
eine komplexe Anwendung mit ClientLib-PostScript-Routinen.
PPC-Server werden wir uns nicht hinstellen (wir sind keine Apple
Yunkies, ja selbst NX/NSHosting sowie die Preispolitik der letzten
Jahre, die kleinere "Customer" ausgrenzte, spielt da ´ne Rolle) und
die Yellow Box für Windows reicht allein auch nicht. PPC-Server oder
gar Anwendungs-Maschinen kommen nicht in Frage (wer kann dies
heutzutage noch rechtfertigen).
Na dann, tschuess Apple (NeXT Software formerly). Die Arroganz der
letzten Jahre reicht. Es istr schon erstaunlich, wie sogenannte
Visionäre zu primitiven Kapitalisten/Boersenfreaks mutieren und sich
dabei selbst aufgeben.
Think different ist eh´ nur ´n Marketing Gag.
Genug des Frusts ...
Thomas
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EDV@lfa.hal.eunet.de
Job
Landesamt fuer Archaeologie Sachsen-Anhalt
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From: Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Todeskampf oder aufgeben?
Date: 27 May 1998 09:43:55 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
: Moin!
: Wenn es denn wirklich wahr ist, das Apple resp. Steve keinen Bock mehr auf
: x86-Architektur hat und somit für viele Investitionen gar nicht wahr werden,
: sollten wir uns doch mal überlegen, ob es nicht vielleicht sinnvoll wäre
: einen "Todeskampf" zu wagen....
Also, auf die Gefahr hin, mich hier unbeliebt zu machen:
Steve wird nicht auf Euch hören. Steve hat den Newton gekillt,
schwarze Hardware gekillt, irgendwann NeXTstep for SPARC nicht mehr
weiterentwickelt und PA RISC komplett eingestellt. Steve hat sowohl in
den guten alten Zeiten bei Apple als auch bei NeXT mit Vorliebe seine
Strategien umgestellt und unzÙhlige Leute mit stÙndigen Kurswechseln
vor den Kopf gestoûen. Dies ist nur mal wieder einer dieser
Schritte. Aus Apple Perspektive macht das auch Sinn: keine Konkurrenz
för die eigene Hardware durch Intel. Die Kloner sind ja auch schon
lange weg vom Fenster. Dann soll Apple meinetwegen mit ihren 5%
Markanteil untergehen. Interessiert mich nicht mehr.
Ich habe nÙmlich hier eine NeXTstation color turbo vor mit und zu
Hause noch eine Cube. Und solange die nicht auûeinanderfallen, werde
ich weiter NeXTstep auf den machen. Und nebenbei gebe ich die Hoffnung
nicht auf, daû vielleicht eines Tages eins von den freien Unixen
eine vernönftige GUI hat (GNUstep vielleicht?).
Gruû,
Eberhard
From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Todeskampf oder aufgeben?
Date: 27 May 1998 04:51:50 GMT
Organization: DX-Team - Bremerhaven - Bremen - Hamburg
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Moin!
Wenn es denn wirklich wahr ist, das Apple resp. Steve keinen Bock mehr auf
x86-Architektur hat und somit für viele Investitionen gar nicht wahr werden,
sollten wir uns doch mal überlegen, ob es nicht vielleicht sinnvoll wäre
einen "Todeskampf" zu wagen....
Ich gehe davon aus, das die eMail-Adresse von Steve in der Datenbank ein Fake
ist, aber man kann Apple ja sicherlich auch mal per snailMail anschreiben mit
der "Signatur" aller, die in den deutsch- und englischsprachigen NeXT-Foren
unterwegs sind und auf einem x86 "OpenMac" <grins> (resp. MacOS X) haben
wollen.
Zu Urzeiten Unterschrift- und Protestaktion genannt.....
Ggf. mit guten Begründungen und seitenweise Anwendungen, die man unter x86
benutzt und deren Umbau auf einer PPC-Struktur Unmengen von Knete
verschlingen würde....ein paar nette Argumente warum ein PPC einfach Scheisse
ist von Ulli dazu <g> und mal sehen, ob Steve´s Gefolgsleute die NeXTler
wirklich voll in den Allerwertesten treten oder sich doch
besinnen....zumindest Steve - sollte er so eine Aktion jemals zu Gesicht
bekommen - soll sich dabei GANZ SCHLECHT FÜHLEN!
Sicherlich können Zeitschriften dabei helfen Leute zu mobilisieren und deren
Unterstützung im Kampf gegen das M$Schrottmonopol dürfte uns gewiss sein.
(Habe gestern die neue Developper-Win98 gesehen....igitt ist das gräßlich!).
Es ist nur die Frage, ob hier einige dazu bereit sind, etwas zu
tun.....tipseln, translaten, verschicken, aufrufen, machen und tun
eben....???
Für mich persönlich ist es im Prinzip egal, ob PPC oder x86, da hier
lediglich mein Penti steht und "irgendwann" ersetzt werden muß, ich denke
jedoch dabei an Institutionen der F&L (AWI, DKRZ uvm.), die NeXT einsetzen,
weil extrem leistungsfähig für deren aufwendige Berechnungen und
Darstellungen und Forschungsgelder sind knapp....einen INTEL bekommt man
nachgeschmissen, einen PPC in der Ausbaustufe sicherlich nicht....und das
noch eine ganze Weile....
Wenn zwei drei Leute mitmachen, bin ich mit dabei und werde schreiben bis das
meine Non-Win9x-Tastatur bricht :-)?!
--
Joerg Sievers
22143 Hamburg, Germany
eMail: jogi2@vossnet.de (NeXTMail welcome!)
jsi@stardivision.de (StarOffice-Mail welcome!)
*DX-Team since 1988*
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: NSNotification
Date: 27 May 1998 07:44:32 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6kgg90$isi$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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MMiss <mmiss@aol.com> wrote:
: Hallo,
: ich bin neu in der Rhapsody-Welt (DR1/x86) und brauche unbedingt Hilfe.
: Ich arbeite gerade an einer Applikation für Mess- und Prueftechnik und habe
: eine Server-Applikation geschrieben, welche den ganzen I/O-Kram uebernimmt. Da
: die einzelnen Aufrufe von wenigen Millisekunden bis zu einer halben Minute
: dauern, ist es notwendig die Aufrufe asynchron zu handhaben. Jeder Aufruf
: laeuft in einem Thread und funktioniert auch soweit.
: Das Problem ist nun : wie kann ich meine Client-Applikation benachrichtigen,
: das ein Vorgang (identifzierbar ueber eine ID) beendet ist ? Ist es moeglich
: NSNotifications auch ueber Distributed Objects zu versenden oder gibt es eine
: andere Moeglichkeit ?
Du kannst NSNotifications sicher auch via DO versenden. In Rhapsody DR2
gibt es neuerdins ein NSDistributedNotificationCenter, was das noch besser
erledigen koennen soll, als wenn Du das normale NotificationCenter per
DO exportierst und dann einfach DO-Proxies registrierst.
Du kannst natuerlich auch einfach durch DO-Aufrufe deine Signalisierung
an den Client absetzen. Die Aufrufe der verschiedenen Threads in deinem
Server werden dann durch den DO-Mechanismus im Client serialisiert.
--
Axel Habermann
kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Message-ID (was: Der 'offizielle' Grund ...)
Date: 27 May 1998 10:05:01 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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mocken@physik.uni-kl.de (Guido Mocken) wrote:
>Stefan Haller <stk@snafu.de> wrote:
>
>> Das stimmt nicht. Die Message-ID wird von Deinem Newsreader erzeugt und
>> enthält die aktuelle IP-Adresse Deines Macs (in Deinem Fall eine
>> dynamische Adresse, die bei jeder Einwahl anders ist).
>
>In meinem Falle aber leider meine ganz persönliche statische IP -
>deswegen bin ich ja auch so wenig begeistert davon. :-(
Herrje, dann mach halt alle Ports zu. Und falls du von
einigen Leuten antalkbar bleiben willst, installier
TCP-Wrapper, Problem geloest.
Rgds, Chris
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
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From: Mario Illgen <Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: TeXWorks Problem
Date: 27 May 1998 11:08:20 GMT
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
Message-ID: <6kgs74$ebl$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
Hallo,
ich habe ein kleines Problem mit den Pfadeinstellungen von
TeXWorks. Es erscheint folgende Fehlermeldung:
tex -V test.tex;;test -w test.log && rm test.log ;echo @@
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (C version 6.1)
I can't find the default format file!
@@
DONE
Starte ich dasselbe Kommando in einer Shell, funktioniert es:
tex -V test.tex
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (C version 6.1)
(test.tex
Babel <v3.6h> and hyphenation patterns for american, german, loaded.
[1] )
(see the transcript file for additional information)
Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 416 bytes).
Transcript written on test.log.
Kann mir jemand sagen, wo dieses default format file gesucht wird und
welchen Pfad ich in TeXWorks eintragen muss... (Installation unter
/usr/local/teTeX)
Vielen Dank schonmal!!
Ciao, Mario
--
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"It's a perfect day to throw back your head and kiss it all goodbye..."
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In <6ke8k3$ipd$1@foehn.dirnet.com> "Martin Spott" wrote:
> Markus Wenzel <mow@navigator.de> wrote:
>
> > [...] Apple und Next machen seit vielen Jahren
> > Betriebssysteme, aber ein richtiges Server-OS war bislang nicht dabei.
Der
> > Vorsprung, den da z.B. Solaris hat, ist zu groß. Es hat ja nicht mal MS
mit
> > NT geschafft, den aufzuholen.
>
> So ein 4.4BSD als Grundlage betrachte ich als excellente Voraussetzung fuer
> ein Gelingen. WinNT als Vergleich heranzuziehen ist meines Erachtens etwas
> verwegen, dessen Systemkern ist ja relativ neu zusammenstrickt,
Verwegen ist das Marketing, das MS für NT aufzieht. Und damit Erfolg hat.
Aber das ist ein anderes Thema, und hier off-topic. Man muß ja schon froh
sein, daß es neu zusammengestrickt ist, und nicht der neunundzwanzigste
Kompatibilitätskompromiß.
BSD 4.4 ist sicher eine ausgezeichnete Grundlage, aber es müssen auch die Gerät
etreiber stimmen, und das war seit je die Schwäche von NeXT. Weil
OO-entwickelte Treiber einfach nicht mit denen in C oder Assembler mithalten
können. Und es muß Funktionalität für RAID etc. geben. Das programmiert man
nicht mal eben so. Und schon gar nicht mit HFS als Dateisystem.
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Date: 27 May 1998 22:13:32 GMT
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In <19980525152557242470@meise151.wohnheim.uni-kl.de> Guido Mocken wrote:
> Na ja - so riesig scheint der Vorteil nicht gewesen zu sein, schließlich
> hat NeXt nicht gerade die gesamte Grafikbranche mit seiner DPS
> aufgerollt.
Weil der Markt noch nie gekauft hat, was gut war, sondern was andere Idi****
auch gekauft haben.
Wenn Du wüßtest, wieviel Produktivität dadurch kaputt geht, das Leute
versuchen, mit Windows-Programmen druck- und belichtbares PS zu erzeugenŽ und
die Arbeit, die Belichter und Druckereien damit haben, es doch noch irgendwie
zu belichten bzw. zu druckenŽ das wäre unter Nextstep nie nötig gewesen.
Diejenigen, die das kapiert haben, hatten für Nextstep und OneVision immer
ein offenes Ohr. Die anderen (= meistens die Kunden der Belichter und
Druckereien) haben nicht mal das Problem verstanden, wie sollen sie sich dann
für die Lösung interessieren?
Aber Millionen Fliegen können nicht irren.
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From: hwr@pilhuhn.de (Heiko W.Rupp)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NeXT und PPilot?
Date: 28 May 1998 06:24:34 GMT
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Hi,
gibt es eigentlich fuer unser geliebtes Betriebsystem Software um den
PalmPilot anzusprechen? Und falls nicht, dann wenigstens Scripte, um die
Formate der belliebtesten NeXT Applikationen in ein dem Pilot verstaend-
liches Format zu bringen?
--
See <a href="http://www.netbsd.org">NetBSD</a> for a multiplatform OS
Lila schuetzt vor Schwangerschaft - (c) C.J.
From: r.sokoll@intershop.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT und PPilot?
Date: 28 May 1998 06:59:04 GMT
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> gibt es eigentlich fuer unser geliebtes Betriebsystem Software um den
> PalmPilot anzusprechen?
Fürs Terminal dürftest Du unter ftp://ryeham.ee.ryerson.ca/pub/PalmOS/ fündig
werden.
Gruß,
Rainer
From: mocken@physik.uni-kl.de (Guido Mocken)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:34:23 +0200
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Markus Wenzel <mow@navigator.de> wrote:
> Weil der Markt noch nie gekauft hat, was gut war, sondern was andere Idi****
> auch gekauft haben.
Ich formuliere um: Wie kommt es, daß, wenn es doch so überragend war,
selbst einer wie ich, der i.d.R. nicht kauft was Millionen andere
Idioten gekauft haben und sich einigermaßen gut "rundum" informiert,
trotzdem noch nicht viel von den Vorteilen von DPS auf NeXT gelesen hat?
Und nebenbei: Das Windows nicht vernünftig drucken kann, ist klar, aber
wie sieht's im Vergleich dazu und zu Next beim Mac aus? Soooo schlecht
doch nicht, oder? Ein großer Teil der Grafikbranche benutzt Macs statt
Windows, und ich denke, ob Mac oder Next - das wäre keine so schwierige
Entscheidung mehr, wenn man sich bereits *gegen* Windows entschieden
hat. Warum hat sich also Next nicht gegen den Mac durchgesetzt, wenn DPS
so entscheidende vorteile bringt? Das "Millionen Fliegen" Argument zieht
bei Apple's geringem Marktanteil nicht mehr.
Guido
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
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Guido Mocken (mocken@physik.uni-kl.de) wrote:
: Markus Wenzel <mow@navigator.de> wrote:
:
: > Weil der Markt noch nie gekauft hat, was gut war, sondern was andere Idi****
: > auch gekauft haben.
:
: [...]
: hat. Warum hat sich also Next nicht gegen den Mac durchgesetzt, wenn DPS
: so entscheidende vorteile bringt? Das "Millionen Fliegen" Argument zieht
: bei Apple's geringem Marktanteil nicht mehr.
Aber sicher tut es das, nur in kleinerem Umfang. Apple will selbst keine
Kosten fuer DPS tragen (Royalties), Adobe - ein Elefant in Entwicklung
(hoefliche Ausdrucksweise) - hofieren, in DGS nicht investieren, das
waere ja vielleicht etwas fuer die Allgemeinheit und sieht in seiner
Mac-Gemeinde ihre letzten Kunden. Die brauchen das aber nicht, weil
wir sonst ja kein "Consumer-OS" haben.
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
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mocken@physik.uni-kl.de (Guido Mocken) wrote:
>Ich formuliere um: Wie kommt es, daß, wenn es doch so überragend war,
>selbst einer wie ich, der i.d.R. nicht kauft was Millionen andere
>Idioten gekauft haben und sich einigermaßen gut "rundum" informiert,
>trotzdem noch nicht viel von den Vorteilen von DPS auf NeXT gelesen hat?
>
Weil a) keiner weiss was DPS ist, b) wenn man sagt: DPS = Display PostScript,
die Leute gerade mal 'PostScript' hoeren, an ihren Drucker denken der damit
so langsam ist, und dass dann auf Bildschirmperformance umsetzen oder
nie verstanden haben und es fuer viel zu kompliziert halten.
DPS darfst Du nicht erwaehnen, weil es kein Buzz-Word ist. Eigtl. ist
es gar nichts, sondern hoechstens noch Sun Benutzern bekannt.
Wenn ich daran denke wievielen Leuten ich schon hoffnungslos zu
erklaeren versucht habe, was das ueberhaupt soll: DPS, da rennt
man gegen Waende.
Gruesse,
Bernhard.
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Todeskampf oder aufgeben?
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:57:43 GMT
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In <6kgn8r$rt9$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Eberhard Wolff wrote:
> ich weiter NeXTstep auf den machen. Und nebenbei gebe ich die Hoffnung
> nicht auf, daû vielleicht eines Tages eins von den freien Unixen
> eine vernönftige GUI hat
KDE hat sowas. Leider nur im furchtbaren C++ zu programmieren. Aber ansonsten
sehen auch schon die Beta-Versionen sehr vielversprechend aus.
[Ich weiss, unkorrektes Denken, bitte, bitte mich jetzt nicht steinigen....]
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund f?r den Tod von Rhapsody/x86!
Date: 28 May 1998 18:22:00 GMT
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Markus Wenzel <mow@navigator.de> wrote:
[...]
: BSD 4.4 ist sicher eine ausgezeichnete Grundlage, aber es müssen auch die Gerät
: etreiber stimmen, und das war seit je die Schwäche von NeXT. Weil
: OO-entwickelte Treiber einfach nicht mit denen in C oder Assembler mithalten
: können.
Ich glaube nicht, dass das das Problem war. Die NeXT-Treiber, die
am Anfang mit dem DriverKit von NeXT entwickelt wurden, hatten andere
Probleme. Das liegt nicht unbedingt am verwendeten OO-Modell.
Die schlechte Performanz des ersten seriellen Treibers lag nach Dean Reece
(Architekt des DriverKits und des IOKits) jedenfalls daran, dass man aus Zeitgruenden
einfach den zilog-chip der NeXT emuliert hat, weil die Anbindung des Kerns
an die serielle Schnittstelle einfach sehr eng war und man das erst aufwendig
aufdroeseln musste.
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
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Subject: Re: Todeskampf oder aufgeben?
Date: 28 May 1998 05:50:58 GMT
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In <6kg656$apu$1@news.vossnet.de> Joerg Sievers wrote:
> Es ist nur die Frage, ob hier einige dazu bereit sind, etwas zu
> tun.....tipseln, translaten, verschicken, aufrufen, machen und tun
> eben....???
Ach Leute, hört doch endlich auf...
um ein Betriebssystem zu BETTELN!!!
Wenn Apple/Steve oder sonstwer nicht will, dann will er halt nicht. Den Rest
regelt der Markt. Mich hat Apple als Kunden mit dieser Strategie jedenfalls
nicht gewonnen. Aber ich heul ihnen deshalb nicht hinterher.
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From: buddy@cs.tu-berlin.de (Rolf-Stephan Badura)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 09:13:43 +0200
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Hi,
Guido Mocken <mocken@physik.uni-kl.de> wrote:
> ... Ein großer Teil der Grafikbranche benutzt Macs statt Windows, ...
Vorsicht: das MacOS kennt keinen gedrehten Text und vieles, vieles
andere auch nicht (einziger Vorteil sind die Regions-Masken) - sofern
man von QuickDraw GX und den zwei/drei dieses nutzenden Programmen
absieht.
Es ist eher ein historisch gewachsener Markt, der kaum etwas mit den
Fähigkeiten des Betriebssystems zu tun hat, sondern eher mit den
Erfahrungen und Eigenentwicklungen der Software-Häuser zu diesem System.
Im Bereich von Windows95/NT bewegt man sich noch nicht so lange. Die
Software-Produkte gewinnen aber von Version zu Version mehr an Qualität
- man merkt sie lernen hier und da Windows Probleme zu umschiffen.
Ich fand QuickDraw GX mal toll und DPS + QuickDraw GX Features hätte
mich begeistert - Apples Abkehr von DPS finde ich nur traurig. Ich denke
Adobe hat damit auch seine Marktposition gesichert - so kommt keine
kleine Software-Bude auf den gedanken dank DSP ihnen auch noch Konkurenz
zu machen. :-/
Die Würfel sind erst mal wieder gefallen - mal sehen wie es jetzt weiter
geht...
BuddY+E
<http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de/~buddy/>
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Subject: ?die leiseste 4 oder 9gig-Platte
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Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:17:48 GMT
Hallo,
haette gern gewusst, welches die leiseste 4 oder 9gig-SCSI-Platte auf dem
Markt ist, gibt es da Erfahrungen? Ich habe hier eine IBM DCAS 34330, die
h rt man kaum, allerdings auch nur mit 5400 Umdrehungen.
--
Gru
Manfred
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From: stjg@ocserv.chemie.uni-hamburg.de (Stefan Jung)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
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Date: 29 May 1998 15:11:32 GMT
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Martin Spott (Martin.Spott@uni-duisburg.de) wrote:
: In de.comp.sys.mac Stefan Jung <stjg@ocserv.chemie.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
: > [...] Programme, die direkt
: > DPS-Befehle verwenden anstelle von z.B. NSBezierCurve aus dem AppKit, muessen
: > an exakt dieser Stelle modifiziert werden. Sonst nix.
: Ganz einfach. Und wenn Dein Programm darauf beruht, quasi denselben Code
: fuer Bildschirm- und Druckerausgabe zu verwenden, dann schreibst Du die
: Bildschirmausgabe halt neu - mal eben waehrend 'ner Tasse Kaffee sozusagen.
: Es waere ja auch echt primitiv, wenn man sich im Layoutberereich den Vorteil
: der identischen Ausgabe auf Bildschirm und Drucker zunutze machen wuerde.
: Oder eine Graphikausgabe, fuer die man das Clipping mal soeben im
: Handumdrehen programmiert. Echt langweilig. Ausserdem vollkommen unspannend,
: da fehlt ja total der Thrill, wenn man das Dokument auf den Drucker schickt,
: weil man schon vorher sieht, wie das Layout auf dem Drucker erscheinen wird,
: Martin.
: --
: martin "at" quickstep "punkt" dirnet "punkt" com
: --
: Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !
: --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Du solltest Dir abgewoehnen so zynisch zu sein, dass hilft niemanden.
Ausserdem ist das Deine persoenliche Meinung, die selbstverstaendlich fuer
Dich sehr wichtig ist.
Tatsache ist aber, dass Apple mit dem neuen Quickdraw auch die
Moeglichkeiten von Postscript bieten will, naemlich das Imagingmodel von
Postscript und neue Quickdrawbefehle fuer die entsprechenden PSwraps. Das
soll mit Hilfe der XGrafports (bisher GrafPorts und CGrafPorts) moeglich
werden. Das heisst auch, dass die Koordinaten als Fliesskommawerte angegeben
werden. Somit haben wir also nicht mehr die Standard-72-DPI-Aufloesungs-
abhaengigkeit des jetzigen Quickdraw. Ich weiss nicht, ob Du das bereits
wusstest; wenn nicht, dann beruhigt Dich das vielleicht. Es wird also
weitgehend tatsaechlich im Handumdrehen gehen. Wenn es denn mal geht, wir
sprechen da schliesslich von einer Sache die laut Apple Anfang 1999 an die
Entwickler und Ende 1999 an die Kunden ausgeliefert werden soll. Also
abwarten und hoffen. Oder beleidigte Leberwurst spielen und Billy das Geld
in den Rachen werfen.
--
Stefan Jung
From: lukas@phoenix.tp1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Lukas Wunner)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Todeskampf oder aufgeben?
Date: 29 May 1998 17:23:22 GMT
Organization: Theoretische Physik 1, Ruhr Universitaet Bochum
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mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>Ach Leute, hört doch endlich auf...
>um ein Betriebssystem zu BETTELN!!!
>Wenn Apple/Steve oder sonstwer nicht will, dann will er halt nicht. Den Rest
>regelt der Markt. Mich hat Apple als Kunden mit dieser Strategie jedenfalls
>nicht gewonnen. Aber ich heul ihnen deshalb nicht hinterher.
Seh ich genauso. Ich beobachte was Apple macht, aber was interessiert's
mich wenn sie Sch* bauen. Das machen die nicht erst seit gestern.
Ich habe hier meine Linux-Kiste. Die ist vielleicht nicht besonders bunt.
Da gibt's auch nicht viel zum Rumklicken. Und beim Einschalten spielt
sie kein Sample ab. Aber wenn mir was am Betriebssystem nicht gefällt,
kann ich es verdammt nochmal selbst beheben und bin nicht mehr von
Fehlentscheidungen von irgendwelchen x-beliebigen Managements abhängig.
Stinkig,
Lukas.
--
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lukas@wunner.de LW26-RIPE http://www.wunner.de/~lukas/
Funkmodems mit 2.4GHz FAQ http://www.wunner.de/~lukas/funk/
From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,maus.sys.next,maus.sys.mac,bln.termine,bln.comp.misc,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: TREFFEN: Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) am 8. Juni 1998
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next
Date: 29 May 1998 17:30:02 GMT
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EINLADUNG ZUM TREFFEN DER BERLINER NeXT USER GROUP (BeNG)
*********************************************************
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) trifft sich am
Montag, den 8. Juni 1998, um 20.00 Uhr,
in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e. V.,
Kiautschoustrasse 18, 13353 Berlin,
wobei folgende Themen geplant sind:
WWDC, RHAPSODY & MACOS X
Mitte Mai wurde auf Apples weltweiter Entwicklerkonferenz
(WWDC) die Roadmap fuer Rhapsody und MacOS bekanntgegeben.
Wie genau diese aussieht, was sich aendert und was (noch)
bleibt, berichtet ausfuehrlich Axel Habermann, der direkt
vor Ort in San Jose war. Nachfolgend wird genuegend Zeit
zur Diskussion bleiben.
Das Treffen steht allen NEXTSTEP und OPENSTEP- bzw. Rhapsody-
Interessierten offen, auch Einsteigern oder Leuten, die erst einmal
mehr ueber NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP und Rhapsody, das zukuenftige
Betriebsssystem von Apple, erfahren wollen.
Wir treffen uns in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e.V.
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin (Wedding)
von 20.00 bis ca. 22.00 Uhr. Die Raeume selbst befinden sich im
Erdgeschoss.
WIE KOMMT MAN HIN
Da die Kiautschoustrasse in einem Wohngebiet liegt und es
erfahrungsgemaess kaum freie Parkplaetze in der Naehe gibt,
empfehlen wir die Anfahrt mit dem Fahrrad oder mit oeffentlichen
Verkehrsmitteln.
Sie erreichen uns am besten ueber folgende Linien:
U-BAHN U 9 bis U-Bahnhof Amrumer Strasse
U 6 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
BUS 248 bis Kiautschoustrasse
221 bis Luxemburger Strasse
245 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
120 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
Die behindertengerechten Busse der Linie 248 halten fast vor der Tuer
(50 m), bei den anderen Linien sollten Sie einen Fussweg von etwa
fuenf Minuten einplanen. Einen Fahrplan von Ihnen zur BeNG finden Sie
unter der URL http://www.fahrinfo-berlin.de.
Am \ BUS 221 ___---"""
ru \ ___-H-"""
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v \ t \ _\ r Kiautschou__---""\ \ -->
S \ r \ \ ___---""" BeNG \ \__-
\ \__Pekinger \_-\ \ ==== __\
___---"" Pl.--__ \ \ __--""
___---""" Nordufer """--__\ \ __--"" str. __-
___---""""""""""""---___ Nord- "" Lynar __--""
___---""" ""-_ ufer __--""
" "-_ _--""
\ "\
[Diese "Karte" sollte mit einem nicht-] \ \
[proportionalen Font betrachtet werden] \ \
Wenn Sie einen Internet-Zugang haben, koennen Sie einen Blick auf den
entsprechenden Kartenausschnitt auf dem Server des StadtINFO-Verlags
werfen. Unter der URL http://www.beng.org/meeting.html ist eine
Umgebungskarte der Kiautschoustrasse abgebildet, auf der die
Vereinsraeume des IN-Berlin e. V. durch einen roten Kreis markiert
sind.
DAS UEBERNAECHSTE TREFFEN
Das darauffolgende Treffen findet am 6. Juli 1998 statt. Bisher ist
ein Einfuehrungsvortrag zum Verzeichnisdienst NetInfo geplant.
UEBER BeNG
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) existiert seit 1990 und ist
ein loser Zusammenschluss von NeXT-Interessierten.
Wir betreiben zwei Mailinglisten fuer Ankuendigungen bzw. fuer
Diskussionen rund um NeXT/Apple-Technologien und einen FTP-Server
fuer NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Programme (ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT).
Unser Rhapsody-FTP-Server (ftp://ftp.beng.org) befindet sich noch
im Aufbau. Naehere Informationen erhalten sie, indem Sie eine E-Mail
an about@beng.org schicken.
Wir treffen uns in der Regel am ersten Montag im Monat um 20.00 Uhr.
Wenn dieser Tag ein Feiertag ist, findet das Treffen in der
darauffolgenden Woche statt. Oft werden auch Vortraege gehalten oder
Vorfuehrungen arrangiert.
Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG)
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 39 03 93 03
Fax +49 30 / 39 03 93 04
WWW http://www.beng.org
E-Mail info@beng.org
UEBER IN-BERLIN
Das Individual Network Berlin (IN-Berlin) bietet seit 1990
Internet-Zugang zur privaten Nutzung an. IN-Berlin arbeitet nicht
gewinnorientiert und ist seit 1996 ein eingetragener Verein, der
heute ueber seine 2 MBit/s-Anbindung mehr als 600 Teilnehmer mit
Internet-Konnektivitaet versorgt.
In den Vereinsraeumen des IN-Berlin e.V. in Berlin-Wedding finden
regelmaessig Usertreffen, Schulungen und Veranstaltungen befreundeter
Gruppen, z. B. der Berliner LINUX-Usergruppe (BeLUG) oder der Berliner
NeXT User Group (BeNG), statt.
Info-Kontakt IN-Berlin e. V.
Kiautschoustr. 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 45 49 43 43
Fax +40 30 / 45 49 43 44
WWW http://www.in-berlin.de
E-Mail info@in-berlin.de
--
Gerald Erdmann gerald@stepman.com
_ < STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting
/ / +49 30 39731400 -401 (Fax)
\ __\ Berlin - Germany - Earth
From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 16:02:00 +0200
Organization: Completely Disorganized
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Mein Geld verdiene ich auf Systemen, die der deutsche Wirtschaft
gefallen -- und wenn ich dann nach hause komme, setze ich mich an den
Mac. Das kann's doch nicht gewesen sein. Da gibt es doch noch dieses
wunderbare System, Rhapsody genannt. Endlich eine objektorientierte
Perspektive mit solidem Unterbau, statt dem uralten Kram auf dem Mac OS.
Aber wenn ich mich umschaue und umhoere und auf Job-Boersen stoebere,
finde ich kaum etwas anderes als Windows, Visual C++, Visual Basic, MFC.
OpenStep oder Rhapsody (oder Mac OS) sind mir nie aufgefallen. Ja, wo
sind die denn? Zwei Firmen, die mit NeXT-Techologie arbeiten, kenne ich
sogar; sie liegen ein paar hundert Meter auseinander. Aber das koennen
doch nicht alle sein.
Michael
--
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From: lukas@phoenix.tp1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Lukas Wunner)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Endliche Automaten
Date: 30 May 1998 14:38:22 GMT
Organization: Theoretische Physik 1, Ruhr Universitaet Bochum
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tilo.schwarz@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Tilo Schwarz) writes:
>weiû jemand ein Tool, um endliche Automaten auf dem NeXT zu visualisieren?
>Etwa so, wie Wood.app Baeume zeichnen kann. Ich moechte eine
>Knoten/Kanten-Liste uebergeben und haette gerne einen Postscript-OutPut.
>Gibt's vielleicht ein FAQ dazu?
probier's doch mal mit:
http://www-ti.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/~wiese/Automaton/index.html
Mailed+Posted,
Lukas.
--
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From: KOYLA<myemail@any.where.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: - If Anyone Makes Money, Everyone Makes Money! -
Date: 30 May 1998 19:02:31 GMT
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund f?r den Tod von Rhapsody/x86!
Date: 30 May 1998 18:03:38 GMT
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In <6kka08$iuq$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann wrote:
> Die schlechte Performanz des ersten seriellen Treibers lag nach Dean Reece
> (Architekt des DriverKits und des IOKits) jedenfalls daran, dass man aus
Zeitgruenden
> einfach den zilog-chip der NeXT emuliert hat, weil die Anbindung des Kerns
> an die serielle Schnittstelle einfach sehr eng war und man das erst
aufwendig
> aufdroeseln musste.
Die Netzwerk- und Plattenperformance steht aber bei gleicher Hardware FreeBSD
und Solaris ebenso deutlich nach, und das ist heute noch so. Den
Floppy-Treiber haben sie *jetzt* erst vor kurzem vernünftig programmiert.
--
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http://www.navigator.de/
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 19:38:09 GMT
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In <1d9umcy.fe0aedwtsmN@rhrz-isdn3-p5.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Michael Schuerig
wrote:
> Aber wenn ich mich umschaue und umhoere und auf Job-Boersen stoebere,
> finde ich kaum etwas anderes als Windows, Visual C++, Visual Basic, MFC.
Auch wenn's nicht Rhapsody ist:
Jobs mit Unix gibt es immer noch zuhauf. Unix-Leute werden stark gesucht und
kaum gefunden. Damit ist man also schon mal weg vom Windows.
Bei meiner letzten Jobsuche Anfang des Jahres musste ich uebrigens zu meiner
Ueberraschung feststellen, dass auch Smalltalk-Leute gesucht werden. Der
Renner ist Visual-Age von IBM, eine Demo kann man sich kostenlos schicken
lassen (www.ibm.com). Das ist dann zwar wieder Windows, da aber Smalltalk
fast ein eigenes Betriebssystem darstellt, läßt es sich aushalten. Visual Age
hat uebrigens einiges von Nextstep geklaut.
From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Todeskampf oder aufgeben?
Date: 31 May 1998 10:51:15 GMT
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Hi!
In <6kiu02$2ei$3@marsu.navigator.de> Markus Wenzel wrote:
> Ach Leute, hört doch endlich auf...
> um ein Betriebssystem zu BETTELN!!!
>
> Wenn Apple/Steve oder sonstwer nicht will, dann will er halt nicht. Den
Rest
> regelt der Markt. Mich hat Apple als Kunden mit dieser Strategie jedenfalls
> nicht gewonnen. Aber ich heul ihnen deshalb nicht hinterher.
So ähnlich sehen es einige...
Nunja, dann wird wohl doch Linux bald hier sein zu Hause finden, auch wenn
ich gehofft hatte, das es mit Rhapsody einen zweiten Frühling (dritten?) für
dieses schöne System geben würde....
Eigentlich schade.....
--
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22143 Hamburg, Germany
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From: jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: RadicalNews ... bye bye?
Date: 31 May 1998 20:42:15 GMT
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
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Subject: Re: Todeskampf oder aufgeben?
Date: 1 Jun 1998 01:09:57 GMT
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lukas@phoenix.tp1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Lukas Wunner) wrote:
> Seh ich genauso. Ich beobachte was Apple macht, aber was interessiert's
> mich wenn sie Sch* bauen. Das machen die nicht erst seit gestern.
> Ich habe hier meine Linux-Kiste. Die ist vielleicht nicht besonders bunt.
> Da gibt's auch nicht viel zum Rumklicken. Und beim Einschalten spielt
> sie kein Sample ab. Aber wenn mir was am Betriebssystem nicht gefällt,
> kann ich es verdammt nochmal selbst beheben und bin nicht mehr von
> Fehlentscheidungen von irgendwelchen x-beliebigen Managements abhängig.
Ich schliesse mich an. Linux laeuft hier auch ganz wunderpraechtig und die
NeXTSTEP 3.3 Kiste wird auch weiterlaufen, egal was fuer ein Bloedsinn auch
immer beschlossen wird.
Allerdings finde ich diesen ganzen Zirkus auch nicht lustig.
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: NeXT und PPilot?
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 19:04:23 GMT
In article <6kivv2$85i$1@snert.pilhuhn.de> hwr@pilhuhn.de (Heiko W.Rupp)
writes:
> Hi,
>
> gibt es eigentlich fuer unser geliebtes Betriebsystem Software um den
> PalmPilot anzusprechen? Und falls nicht, dann wenigstens Scripte, um die
> Formate der belliebtesten NeXT Applikationen in ein dem Pilot verstaend-
> liches Format zu bringen?
>
Schau mal auf der Web-Site von FreeBSD nach. In der druckfrischen Ausgabe
des Newsletters war da so was zu lesen (inclusive Pointer zu den
Downloads).
Und schliesslich BSD bleibt BSD ;-)
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: RadicalNews ... bye bye?
Date: 1 Jun 1998 01:56:33 GMT
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jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) wrote:
> Moin!
>
> Ab morgen läuft dann ja RadicalNews-Beta nicht mehr unter NEXTSTEP und nu?
> Gibbat ne neue Beta oder geben die jetzt auch voellig auf?
Normalerweise kommt das naechste RN Beta erst ein paar Tage spaeter auf peak.
Was komisch ist: ftp.radical.com ist voellig leergeraeumt, kein File mehr
drauf.
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From: Juergen Grieb <juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: RadicalNews ... bye bye?
Date: 1 Jun 1998 06:24:50 GMT
Organization: "private site"
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Frank M. Siegert : 1998-06-01 03:56:33 +0200:
> Was komisch ist: ftp.radical.com ist voellig leergeraeumt, kein File mehr
> drauf.
Stimmt nicht. Die haben nur ihren Server etwas komisch konfiguriert.
mit ftp.radical.com/radical kommt man direkt ins Verzeichnis und
hat Zugriff auf RadicalNews. Leider aber nur die .4 bis jetzt.
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From: Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 12:35:30 +0200
Organization: InIS * Innovative Informationssysteme GmbH
Message-ID: <357283F2.F9B3AE7@inis.de>
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>Aber wenn ich mich umschaue und umhoere und auf Job-Boersen stoebere,
>finde ich kaum etwas anderes als Windows, Visual C++, Visual Basic, MFC.
>OpenStep oder Rhapsody (oder Mac OS) sind mir nie aufgefallen. Ja, wo
>sind die denn? Zwei Firmen, die mit NeXT-Techologie arbeiten, kenne ich
>sogar; sie liegen ein paar hundert Meter auseinander. Aber das koennen
>doch nicht alle sein.
Schalten wir Stellenanzeigen mit dem Profil EOF,WOF,Openstep, dann haben wir
keinerlei
Aussicht auf Erfolg, da die potentiellen Bewerber dies in der Regel nicht
beherrschen!
Wir müssen also Leute quer ausbilden und die haben gute Voraussetzungen,
wenn sie
Smalltalk oder C++ beherrschen und schon mal mit SQL-Datenbanken zu tun
hatten.
Wenn jemand mit DPS Erfahrung hat, dann ist das EXTREM selten.
Der Markt im Bereich der SW-Entwicklung ist sehr leer und das die
NeXT-Pfrofile, wie
ich sie hier mal nennen will, ein kleines Subset bilden, dann ist das für
uns sehr ärgerlich.
Der potentielle Bewerber guckt doch nach dem Profil und hat Angst, wenn
einer der Aspekte
nicht zu ihm paßt. Wir müssen Leute quer ausbilden (Am 01.06.1998 fängt ein
langjährige Mac-Programmierer
an), sonst ist es duster mit den Entwicklern.
Im übrigen gibt es doch allein in der Budesrepublick schon einige Firmen und
Projekte, die sich
der Technologie Apple/NeXT verschrieben haben. Wie wäre es mit IPS, der
Object-Factory, der InIS oder
einigen anderen?
Frank Knobloch
>
From: Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: RadicalNews ... bye bye?
Date: 1 Jun 1998 12:20:28 GMT
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Hi!
In Re: RadicalNews ... bye bye? de.comp.sys.next <ArticleDisplayer: 0x9b8c4> writes,
> Normalerweise kommt das naechste RN Beta erst ein paar Tage spaeter auf peak.
>
> Was komisch ist: ftp.radical.com ist voellig leergeraeumt, kein File mehr
> drauf.
Ist mir auch aufgefallen, sonst haette ich auch nichts geschrieben....
Joerg Sievers
22143 Hamburg, Germany
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From: Matthias Heidbrink <*NOSPAM*mh@cs.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: TeX =?iso-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= NeXT?
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 15:40:06 +0100
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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Hi,
ich habe seit kurzem eine NeXTstation color mit NeXTstep 3.3.
Welche M=F6glichkeiten gibt es, damit TeX/LaTeX2e zu benutzen?
Welche Files brauche ich von wo, ...?
Ich kenne EMTeX f=FCr OS/2 und ein wenig teTeX f=FCr Linux.
Ciao, Matthias
From: Matthias Heidbrink <*NOSPAM*mh@cs.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Todeskampf oder aufgeben?
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 15:46:58 +0100
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Moin Thomas, =
Thomas F. Unke wrote:
> > ich weiter NeXTstep auf den machen. Und nebenbei gebe ich die Hoffnun=
g
> > nicht auf, da=FB vielleicht eines Tages eins von den freien Unixen
> > eine vern=F6nftige GUI hat
> =
> KDE hat sowas. Leider nur im furchtbaren C++ zu programmieren. Aber ans=
onsten
> sehen auch schon die Beta-Versionen sehr vielversprechend aus.
> =
> [Ich weiss, unkorrektes Denken, bitte, bitte mich jetzt nicht steinigen=
=2E...]
KDE braucht die kommerzielle Library QT von Trolltech, die nur unter
einer ganzen Handvoll von Nebenbedingungen und nur f=FCr X11/UNIX frei
ist. IMHO gibt es keine M=F6glichkeit, diese Library auf andere
Betriebssysteme oder andere Windowsysteme zu portieren, ohne die
Lizenzbedingungen zu verletzen. Deshalb kann man's getrost vergessen,
wenn mich jemand fragt.
Einige andere Leute entwickeln eine Alternatave dazu, die vollst=E4ndig
unter GNU-Lizenz sein soll und die auf mich auch wegen der verwendeten
Technologien einen wesentlich interessanteren Eindruck macht. Siehe
http://www.gnome.org.
Ciao, Matthias
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<leise>
Psst!
Wer einen HexEditor bedienen kann, möchte (auf x86!) das Byte am
Offset #342683 ($ce) in einen höheren Wert ändern (z.B. $cf).
Das habe ich aber jetzt nicht wirklich geschrieben. Womit auch?
RN ist ja expired :)
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
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Subject: Re: RadicalNews ... bye bye?
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In <6kudp1$5md@ragnarok.en.uunet.de> Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
>
> <leise>
>
> Psst!
> Wer einen HexEditor bedienen kann, möchte (auf x86!) das Byte am
> Offset #342683 ($ce) in einen höheren Wert ändern (z.B. $cf).
> Das habe ich aber jetzt nicht wirklich geschrieben. Womit auch?
> RN ist ja expired :)
>
>
Bei der m68k Version siehts folgendermassen aus:
/LocalApps/RadicalNews.app> cmp -l RadicalNews.bak RadicalNews
309324 6 14
Auch ich hab das nicht geschrieben. Womit auch......
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: RadicalNews ... bye bye?
Date: 2 Jun 1998 06:25:24 GMT
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Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
> Wer einen HexEditor bedienen kann, möchte (auf x86!) das Byte am
> Offset #342683 ($ce) in einen höheren Wert ändern (z.B. $cf).
> Das habe ich aber jetzt nicht wirklich geschrieben. Womit auch?
> RN ist ja expired :)
Gibt es für die neue Version 0.9.5 auch so einen Wert, denn man ändern
kann? Nur damit sich das gleiche Problem am 1. Sep nicht wieder stellt.
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From: robert@iamexwi.unibe.ch (Philippe Robert)
Organization: Dept. of CS, University of Berne, Switzerland
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Summary:
Message-ID: <3573b4cb.0@news.unibe.ch>
Date: 2 Jun 98 08:16:11 GMT
In article <6k1k69$43j@mimi.stepman.com>, gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann) writes:
> In <3562A8F4.A7878F36@inis.de> Frank Knobloch wrote:
> Klar, PPCs sind besser. Darum geht es aber nicht.
Doch, genau darum geht es, denn Apple ist v.a. auch eine Hardware Company, d.h
sie will Geld verdienen mit Maschinen!
> Apple will/braucht Marktanteile! Folglich könnte man mit einer x86-Version
> die Leute von Windows wegziehen, ohne daß sie sofort neue Hardwar kaufen
> brauchen. Sie werden eh schnell feststellen, daß PPCs besser sind und dann
> diese kaufen. Mit der Strategie ist deutlich mehr zu verkaufen, meines
> erachtens.
Stimmt eben gerade nicht! x86 PCs sind und werden wohl noch ne Weile billiger
sein als PPCs, und DAS ist der Grund dafuer, dass sie so verbreitet sind. Koennte
man in den Staaten fuer $700 einen PPC kaufen, dann... Aber die Leute wuerden
wohl sagen, cool, Rhapsody ist besser als NT, aber wieso n PPC, auf meinem PC
laeuft es ja auch!
> Apple will mit Rhapsody vor allem in den Server/Hochschulmarkt! Viele Server
> laufen derzeit auf NT, also auf Intel-Maschinen. Kein Administrator wird sich
> einen PPC kaufen, um mal "zu testen". Kein Student kann und wird es sich
Nicht um zu testen, ABER wenn es darum geht, EDV umzustellen, wird Rhapsody ein
wichtiges Wort mitreden, weil BSD4.4 ein gewichtiger Faktor ist!
> leisten, Linux plus Hardware aufzugeben, um Rhapsody einzusetzen. (Wer es
> nicht weiß, Rhapsody soll preispolitisch ziemlich aggressiv in den
> Linux-Markt vorstoßen). Diese beiden Märkte sind jetzt schon tot.
Was, der Server und Hochschulmarkt ist tot?!????? Dann frag mal SUN, HP und IBM wieviel
Geld die damit verdienen! V.a. der Servermarkt ist SEHR lukrativ! Oder hab ich Dich
da falsch verstanden?! In meinen Augen geht es mit Rhapsody eben nicht nur um kleinere
Netze, sondern auch um solche, die bisanhin traditionelle Unix Boxes abdecken!
Und ein anderer Grund fuer das Abwuergen der x86 Plattform (da ist ja noch nicht das
letzte Wort gesagt, zum Glueck...<g>) ist die Entwicklung des neuen Kernels. Zwar
ist es Mach 3.0, aber der wird, so wie es scheint, rel. stark von Apple selber
weiterentwickelt, d.h. optimiert. Und es ist nat. einfacher, sich auf eine HW
konzentrieren zu koennen, als immer 2 zu beruecksichtigen. V.a. wenn es eine so
verknorzte ist wie x86... Im Gegenzug koennen sie als Hardware Company Hand in Hand
mit den HW Engineers zusammenarbeiten, um eine optimale Kiste zusammenzuschneidern!
Ihr Argument: x86 user brauchen sowieso Windoof, also sollen sie die Yellow Box
benuetzen, und wenn sie sehen, dass die so enorm ultimativ cool ist <g>, DANN sollen
sie Rhapsody/MacOS X auf PPC anschauen!
Just my $0.02
-Phil
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From: robert@iamexwi.unibe.ch (Philippe Robert)
Organization: Dept. of CS, University of Berne, Switzerland
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund für den Tod von Rhapsody/x86!
Summary:
Message-ID: <3573b6e5.0@news.unibe.ch>
Date: 2 Jun 98 08:25:09 GMT
Hi!
> > für eine Standalone- oder Desktop-Workstation. Als Server würde
> > ich eine Plattform bevorzugen, auf der man ohne Krämpfe (POSIX!!!)
> > Unix-Sourcen übersetzen, eine Uptime > 365 Tage erreichen
> > kann, und die eine bessere I/O-Performance bietet als Openstep.
>
> Und woher weißt Du, daß sich Rhapsody nicht diesbezüglich verbessert hat?
Also, gerade die BSD4.4 Personality hat sich maechtig verbessert, wie man an
der WWDC sehen konnte! BSD source nehmen, compilieren, und Freude daran haben...;-)
Nicht vergessen, OPENSTEP war n halbpatziges BSD4.3, das noch aus alten NS Tagen
stammte, daran wurde nicht mehr viel gebastelt von der NeXT Seite her! Bei Rhapsody
sieht das *sehr viel* anders aus!
> Daß Rhapsody keine Chance mehr bei Unis hat, liegt ganz allein an Apple's
> braindead "No Rhapsody/Intel nach 1.0"-Politik. :-((
Soviel ich weiss ist eine spezielle license fuer Unis in Aussicht?! Sogar von freien
sourcen war die Rede...?!
-Phil
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From: thomas@catlan.met.FU-Berlin.DE (Thomas Hensel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: SafetyNet Hilfe
Date: 2 Jun 1998 10:30:40 GMT
Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin
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Einer unserer Kunden hat eine SafetyNet-Prof. Lizenz und
hat ein sehr grosses Problem:
Das automatisierte Backup schlug Sonntags morgen fehl mit folgender Meldung
Backup Error: READ POSITION
May 17 05:05:00 INFO: Using archive
/LocalUsers/root/Library/Komplett_Archiv.arch
May 17 05:05:00 INFO: Beginning backup from profile Komplett-Voll
May 17 05:05:01 NOTICE: DATIO: Can't get compression mode page. Drive may not
support feature.
May 17 05:05:27 INFO: Volume label is: komp-1, Expecting: komp-1
May 17 05:06:43 INFO: Backing up file system: rtl5:/usr/spool/mail at mount
point: /usr/spool/mail.
May 17 05:06:48 INFO: Archived 1 files (1.32 MB) in 00:00:05
May 17 05:06:48 INFO: Remaining capacity of current tape volume: 1736
May 17 05:06:48 INFO: Updating catalog
May 17 05:08:26 INFO: Backing up file system: rtl5:/LocalApps at mount point:
/LocalApps.
May 17 05:08:26 ERROR: Backup Error: Backup Error: READ POSITION command
failure
May 17 05:08:26 INFO: Rewinding volume
May 17 05:09:57 NOTICE: ******** B A C K U P F A I L E D ********
Anschliessende Restores oder Backups bringen nur noch die lapidare Meldung:
Media has an improperly formated label
May 17 12:41:59 INFO: Beginning Restore
May 17 12:42:40 INFO: Media has an improperly formated label.
May 17 12:42:40 INFO: Volume is unlabeled.
May 17 12:43:18 ERROR: Archive error: Unable to mount volume.
May 17 12:43:18 INFO: Unloading Volume
May 17 12:43:18 NOTICE: ******** R E S T O R E F A I L E D ********
!!! Dieses Backup ist !sehr! wichtig. Wie koennen die es retten ?
Da nur der Label nicht mehr lesbar ist, muesste doch eigentlich
der Rest lesbar sein ? Kann ich alle backup-saetze vom Tape auf Platte
schreiben und dann auf ein neues Tape wieder kopieren ?
Oder kann ich einfach wieder ein Label drauf schreiben, *ohne*
den Rest zu loeschen ???
Hat jemand eine Idee ???
Thomas
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From: hwr@pilhuhn.de (Heiko W.Rupp)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT und PPilot?
Date: 2 Jun 1998 14:44:05 GMT
Organization: The Home Of The Pilhuhn
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Peter Nitezki wrote:
|Schau mal auf der Web-Site von FreeBSD nach. In der druckfrischen Ausgabe
|des Newsletters war da so was zu lesen (inclusive Pointer zu den
|Downloads).
Ok, found. Den Pilot-xfer hab ich auch schon im Einsatz. Ansonsten sind
da ja wenigstens alle Includes und Libraries dabei, die man so braucht,
um die noetigen Programme selbst zu schreiben.
|Und schliesslich BSD bleibt BSD ;-)
*grins*
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From: axel.steininger@uibk.ac.at (Axel Steininger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 01:26:35 +0200
Organization: q.consult
Message-ID: <axel.steininger-0306980126360001@195.3.69.153>
References: <6k1k69$43j@mimi.stepman.com> <3573b4cb.0@news.unibe.ch>
In article <3573b4cb.0@news.unibe.ch>, robert@iamexwi.unibe.ch wrote:
> In article <6k1k69$43j@mimi.stepman.com>, gerald@stepman.com (Gerald
Erdmann) writes:
> > In <3562A8F4.A7878F36@inis.de> Frank Knobloch wrote:
> > Klar, PPCs sind besser. Darum geht es aber nicht.
>
> Doch, genau darum geht es, denn Apple ist v.a. auch eine Hardware Company, d.h
> sie will Geld verdienen mit Maschinen!
>
> > Apple will/braucht Marktanteile! Folglich könnte man mit einer x86-Version
> > die Leute von Windows wegziehen, ohne daß sie sofort neue Hardwar kaufen
> > brauchen. Sie werden eh schnell feststellen, daß PPCs besser sind und dann
> > diese kaufen. Mit der Strategie ist deutlich mehr zu verkaufen, meines
> > erachtens.
>
> Stimmt eben gerade nicht! x86 PCs sind und werden wohl noch ne Weile billiger
> sein als PPCs, und DAS ist der Grund dafuer, dass sie so verbreitet
sind. Koennte
> man in den Staaten fuer $700 einen PPC kaufen, dann... Aber die Leute wuerden
> wohl sagen, cool, Rhapsody ist besser als NT, aber wieso n PPC, auf meinem PC
> laeuft es ja auch!
>
Ich denke halt, dass Apple hofft, mit den G3 und G4 Maschinen eine echte
Alternative zu Intel bieten zu koennen. Ein halbwegs vernünftiger Compaq
mit SCSI kostet gleich viel wie ein G3/300 (Das sind nicht nur leere
Worte, ich habe grade heute zwei Preislisten verglichen). Ausserdem hat
Intel den Merced Chip grade bis Mitte 2000 verschoben. Was bleibt ist
natuerlich die grosse Menge an bestehenden Intel PCs, die billigen NoNames
und die Modellvielfalt, besonders bei Notebooks. Aber wenn Apple mit dem
Elan der letzten Monate weitermacht und die Wintel Welt noch auf ein paar
weitere Hindernisse stoesst sieht die Zukunft für Apple und den Rest der
freien Welt ;-) schon rosiger aus als noch vor einem Jahr.
From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 2 Jun 1998 20:26:33 GMT
Organization: STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting, Germany
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Hi Philippe!
In <3573b4cb.0@news.unibe.ch> Philippe Robert wrote:
> In article <6k1k69$43j@mimi.stepman.com>, gerald@stepman.com (Gerald
Erdmann) writes:
> > In <3562A8F4.A7878F36@inis.de> Frank Knobloch wrote:
> > Klar, PPCs sind besser. Darum geht es aber nicht.
>
> Doch, genau darum geht es, denn Apple ist v.a. auch eine Hardware Company,
d.h
> sie will Geld verdienen mit Maschinen!
>
> > Apple will/braucht Marktanteile! Folglich könnte man mit einer
x86-Version
> > die Leute von Windows wegziehen, ohne daß sie sofort neue Hardwar kaufen
> > brauchen. Sie werden eh schnell feststellen, daß PPCs besser sind und
dann
> > diese kaufen. Mit der Strategie ist deutlich mehr zu verkaufen, meines
> > erachtens.
>
> Stimmt eben gerade nicht! x86 PCs sind und werden wohl noch ne Weile
billiger
> sein als PPCs, und DAS ist der Grund dafuer, dass sie so verbreitet sind.
Koennte
> man in den Staaten fuer $700 einen PPC kaufen, dann... Aber die Leute
wuerden
> wohl sagen, cool, Rhapsody ist besser als NT, aber wieso n PPC, auf meinem
PC
> laeuft es ja auch!
Nicht unbedingt. Die Leute ärgern sich ziemlich viel mit PC-Karten und all
sowas rum und viele Leute sind das einfach leid. Doch wenn sie eine
PC-Version von Rhapsody "erst mal" kaufen können, ist die Hemmschwelle, sich
ein neues System zuzulegen, nicht so groß.
> > Apple will mit Rhapsody vor allem in den Server/Hochschulmarkt! Viele
Server
> > laufen derzeit auf NT, also auf Intel-Maschinen. Kein Administrator wird
sich
> > einen PPC kaufen, um mal "zu testen". Kein Student kann und wird es sich
>
> Nicht um zu testen, ABER wenn es darum geht, EDV umzustellen, wird Rhapsody
ein
> wichtiges Wort mitreden, weil BSD4.4 ein gewichtiger Faktor ist!
Klar, keine Wiederrede.
> > leisten, Linux plus Hardware aufzugeben, um Rhapsody einzusetzen. (Wer es
> > nicht weiß, Rhapsody soll preispolitisch ziemlich aggressiv in den
> > Linux-Markt vorstoßen). Diese beiden Märkte sind jetzt schon tot.
>
> Was, der Server und Hochschulmarkt ist tot?!????? Dann frag mal SUN, HP und
IBM wieviel
> Geld die damit verdienen! V.a. der Servermarkt ist SEHR lukrativ! Oder hab
ich Dich
> da falsch verstanden?! In meinen Augen geht es mit Rhapsody eben nicht nur
um kleinere
> Netze, sondern auch um solche, die bisanhin traditionelle Unix Boxes
abdecken!
Ja, Du hast mich falsch verstanden. Ich meinte mit "tot" tot für Apple.
Sicher, viele Firmen werden sich auch PPCs als Server mit Rhapsody kaufen,
keine Frage. Ist eine flotte Hardware. Doch der Massenmarkt der JETZT schon
PCs da stehen hat, würde ohne eine Intel-Version leer ausgehen. Und diese (NT
und Linux) davon zu überzeugen, sich eine neue Hardware zu kaufen, fällt SEHR
schwer.
Ich weiß wovon ich rede. Ich habe solche Gespräche auf der CeBIT am
YellowBox-Stand gemacht und habe gerade heute wieder auf einer Berliner Messe
gleiche Kommentare geführt. Die Leute finden Rhapsody cool, doch für 95 % der
Leute ist es ohne Intel-Port eigentlich uninteressant, zumal sie es nicht in
der Firma durchbekommen. Da zählt nur PC-Hardware. Wenn jedoch das System
erstmal installiert ist, macht der Sprung auch PPC keine größeren Probleme,
da das Preis/Leistungsverhältnis m.E. deutlich besser ist.
> Und ein anderer Grund fuer das Abwuergen der x86 Plattform (da ist ja noch
nicht das
> letzte Wort gesagt, zum Glueck...<g>) ist die Entwicklung des neuen
Kernels. Zwar
> ist es Mach 3.0, aber der wird, so wie es scheint, rel. stark von Apple
selber
> weiterentwickelt, d.h. optimiert. Und es ist nat. einfacher, sich auf eine
HW
> konzentrieren zu koennen, als immer 2 zu beruecksichtigen. V.a. wenn es
eine so
> verknorzte ist wie x86... Im Gegenzug koennen sie als Hardware Company Hand
in Hand
> mit den HW Engineers zusammenarbeiten, um eine optimale Kiste
zusammenzuschneidern!
Ich habe nix dagegen, wenn Apple vor allem den PPC besonders pflegt. Ein
Grund mehr, daß die Leute dann PPCs kaufen. Nur ganz ohne Intel-Support fände
ich es halt schade für die verschnkte Chance, zumal der Port ja schon da ist.
(Gottseidank scheint sich Apple daran zu erinnern, wenn man mal Macosrumors
glauben will ... obwohl die viel Mist schreiben :)
> Ihr Argument: x86 user brauchen sowieso Windoof, also sollen sie die Yellow
Box
> benuetzen, und wenn sie sehen, dass die so enorm ultimativ cool ist <g>,
DANN sollen
> sie Rhapsody/MacOS X auf PPC anschauen!
Das Problem bei der YB ist ja, daß man als Endanwender gar nicht sieht, wie
cool es ist, da es vollkommen im System "verschwindet". Die Apps sehen ja im
Prinzip aus wie stinknormale Windows-Apps. Das Coole ist die
Entwicklungsumgebung ...
Gruß, Gerald
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Subject: Re: TeX =?iso-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= NeXT?
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35751211.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 3 Jun 98 09:06:25 GMT
Hi.
Suche nach tetex auf http://peanuts.leo.org/.
Einfach zu installieren und benutzen.
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From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Message-ID: <1998Jun3.084819.8702@boba.rhein-main.de>
Sender: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Organization: Borris Balzer, RZ & DTP
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:48:19 GMT
In article <6ki36c$2ei$2@marsu.navigator.de> mow@navigator.de (Markus
Wenzel) writes:
> In <19980525152557242470@meise151.wohnheim.uni-kl.de> Guido Mocken
wrote:
>
> > Na ja - so riesig scheint der Vorteil nicht gewesen zu sein,
> > schlie lich hat NeXt nicht gerade die gesamte Grafikbranche mit
> > seiner DPS aufgerollt.
>
> Weil der Markt noch nie gekauft hat, was gut war, sondern was andere
> Idi**** auch gekauft haben.
Und das hat Gruende - wenn viele Idioten ein Produkt X kaufen, bedeutet
das auch, dass viele mit diesem Produkt vertraut sind und folglich ein
grosses Potential an Mitarbeitern, Zulieferern usw. usf. zur Verfuegung
steht und entsprechend kostenguenstig einzukaufen ist.
"Gut" definiert sich nicht (nur) nach Produktqualitaet, sondern nach
dem Kosten-Nutzen-Faktor.
> Wenn Du w test, wieviel Produktivit t dadurch kaputt geht, das Leute
> versuchen, mit Windows-Programmen druck- und belichtbares PS zu
> erzeugen
Die Produktivitaet mag darunter leiden - nur ist das voellig belanglos,
wenn die Human Ressources guenstig zu kriegen sind. Dann naemlich ist
die Summe der Kosten der durch mit Human Ressources aufgefangenen
Produktivitaetseinbussen geringer als die Summe fuer ein
hochproduktives System.
> und die Arbeit, die Belichter und Druckereien damit haben, es doch
> noch irgendwie zu belichten bzw. zu drucken das w re unter Nextstep
> nie n tig gewesen.
Meine Erfahrung mit 5 Jahren ausschliesslich NeXTStep-gestuetztem DTP
besagen das Gegenteil: Mit dem "sauberen PostScript" kamen die RIPs
niemals richtig klar - und den Weg, wie ich ueber das Print-Menue
NeXTStep dazu kriegen koennte, ein schlichtes PostScript-File im Format
A4-extra zu generieren, habe ich bis heute nicht gefunden.
> Diejenigen, die das kapiert haben, hatten f r Nextstep und OneVision
> immer ein offenes Ohr.
Diejenigen, "die das kapiert haben", hatten nicht nur ein offenes Ohr
fuer NeXTStep und OneVision sondern auch einen weiteren Plus-Faktor auf
ihrer Seite: Sie stehen zumeist am Ende einer Produktionskette und
brauchen daher keinerlei Ruecksicht auf Beschraenkungen anderer zu
nehmen.
Diese etwas antike Produktionsform hat sich allerdings ueberlebt: Jeder
Beteiligte an Print-Produktionen muss sich als Bestandteil einer Kette
verstehen, dessen Daten auch von anderen weiterverarbeitet werden
koennen. Was nuetzen mir die ganzen schoenen Features von OneVision,
wenn keiner meiner Kunden und keiner meiner Lieferanten mit dem Output
dieser Software etwas anfangen kann?
> Die anderen (= meistens die Kunden der Belichter und Druckereien)
> haben nicht mal das Problem verstanden, wie sollen sie sich dann
> f r die L sung interessieren?
Sie haben das Problem niemals gehabt - wozu sollten sie es verstehen?
> Aber Millionen Fliegen k nnen nicht irren.
Als einzelne Fliege, die auf Nektar steht, bist Du in einer Welt voller
Scheisse verloren.
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From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Message-ID: <1998Jun3.085317.8869@boba.rhein-main.de>
Sender: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:53:17 GMT
In article <6kfboo$cod$1@news01.btx.dtag.de> Thomas_Richter@t-online.de
(Thomas Richter) writes:
> jogi2@vossnet.de (Joerg Sievers) wrote:
[...]
> Na dann, tschuess Apple (NeXT Software formerly). Die Arroganz der
> letzten Jahre reicht. Es istr schon erstaunlich, wie sogenannte
> Vision re zu primitiven Kapitalisten/Boersenfreaks mutieren und sich
> dabei selbst aufgeben.
Diese sogenannten Visionaere waren niemals etwas anderes, als
Kapitalisten und Boersenfreaks - ihre Visionen bezogen sich immer
darauf, wie Geld zu machen sei. Ob mit NeXTStep, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody
oder sonstwas - diese Produkte waren und sind niemals zur Menschheits-
beglueckung gedacht, sonden dien(t)en dem Gelderwerb.
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From: "Markus Wenzel" <Markus.Wenzel@brokat.de>
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Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Der_'offizielle'_Grund_f=FCr_den_Tod_von?=
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:02:02 +0200
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>> Die anderen (= meistens die Kunden der Belichter und Druckereien)
>> haben nicht mal das Problem verstanden, wie sollen sie sich dann
>> f r die L sung interessieren?
>
>Sie haben das Problem niemals gehabt - wozu sollten sie es verstehen?
Komisch, wieso hatte ich dann soviel genau damit zu tun, wenn andere
Plattformen im PrePress angeblich keine Probleme machen?
From: Mario Illgen <Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE>
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Subject: Tool ala a2ps
Date: 3 Jun 1998 11:32:03 GMT
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Hallo,
gibt es fuer fuer NeXT ein Tool (wie a2ps) mit dem man ASCII in
Postscript konvertieren kann _und_ dabei mehrere ASCII-Seiten auf
eine PS-Seite bekommt??
Danke, Mario
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From: vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran)
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Subject: Re: Tool ala a2ps
Date: 3 Jun 1998 12:11:45 GMT
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Mario Illgen schrieb in de.comp.sys.next:
>
> Hallo,
>
> gibt es fuer fuer NeXT ein Tool (wie a2ps) mit dem man ASCII in
> Postscript konvertieren kann _und_ dabei mehrere ASCII-Seiten auf
> eine PS-Seite bekommt??
man 1 enscript.
> Danke, Mario
Bitte.
CIAO Volker
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From: Mario Illgen <Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE>
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Subject: Re: Tool ala a2ps
Date: 3 Jun 1998 13:59:57 GMT
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
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vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) wrote:
>> gibt es fuer fuer NeXT ein Tool (wie a2ps) mit dem man ASCII in
>> Postscript konvertieren kann _und_ dabei mehrere ASCII-Seiten auf
>> eine PS-Seite bekommt??
>
>man 1 enscript.
>
Danke fuer Tip, leider scheint das nicht mit Umlauten klarzukommen...
Ciao, Mario
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From: Ernst_Biesalski@magicvillage.de (Ernst Biesalski)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Schwarze Hardware und Modemsteuerung
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:19:07 +0200
Organization: Handelsvertretung fuer Baustoffe
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Hallo,
wie bekomme ich es geregelt, ueber ein Modem Kontakt mit meinem ISP
herzustellen?
Welche Software ist erforderlich?
Welches Kabel ist erforderlich? Geht ein normales
Mac-Hardware-Handshake-Kabel?
Wo gibt es Infos zu dem Thema?
An Hardware ist vorhanden eine schwarze NeXT-Station und ein Modem mit
Rockwell Chipsatz.
mfg Ernst
From: Ernst_Biesalski@magicvillage.de (Ernst Biesalski)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Crashkurs fuer einen Unix-Laien
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:19:08 +0200
Organization: Handelsvertretung fuer Baustoffe
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Nach jetzt ca. sechs Jahren reizt es mich doch, mal unter die NeXT-Step
Oberflaeche zu schauen.
Gibt es darueber Literatur, die erst einmal in das Thema Unix und seine
Moeglichkeiten, moeglichst fuer NeXT-Rechner, einfuehrt und die fuer ein
"Do It Yourself" Studium ausreicht?
mfg Ernst
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
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Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Pa=DFwort=E4nderung?= verhindern?
Date: 3 Jun 1998 18:01:45 GMT
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Wie kann ich bei NEXTSTEP 2.1 verhindern, daß ein Benutzer sein Paßwort
ändert? /bin/passwd das suid-bit wegzunehmen, scheint nichts zu bringen.
Wir verwenden übrigens lediglich ein lokales Netinfodatabase (standalone
Maschine).
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
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Subject: NEXTSTEP 2.1 und Sommerzeit?
Date: 3 Jun 1998 18:04:55 GMT
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Wie bringe ich NEXTSTEP 2.1 bei, korrekt die aktuellen Regel für die
Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit zu verwenden?
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: Re: Crashkurs fuer einen Unix-Laien
Date: 3 Jun 1998 20:15:27 GMT
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In <1da24wb.k2iljf1cfo4hsN@hh18a.vnet.de> Ernst Biesalski wrote:
> Nach jetzt ca. sechs Jahren reizt es mich doch, mal unter die NeXT-Step
> Oberflaeche zu schauen.
>
> Gibt es darueber Literatur, die erst einmal in das Thema Unix und seine
> Moeglichkeiten, moeglichst fuer NeXT-Rechner, einfuehrt und die fuer ein
> "Do It Yourself" Studium ausreicht?
Hi!
In der letzten (aktuellen) NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) haben wir eine
Unix-Serie gestartet, die den Laien erklärt, was sich hinter den ganzen
Kommandos verbirgt.
Ansonsten kannst Du einfach mal in der nächsten Fachbuchhandlung
vorbeischauen. Da gibt es reichlich Literatur zu diesem Thema (Unix
allgemein).
Gruß, Gerald
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 2.1 und Sommerzeit?
Date: 3 Jun 1998 20:17:20 GMT
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In <6l4387$aie$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Georg Schwarz wrote:
> Wie bringe ich NEXTSTEP 2.1 bei, korrekt die aktuellen Regel für die
> Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit zu verwenden?
Du brauchst einen kleinen Patch, den Du in den NeXTAnsers findest. Suche mal
unter http://enterprise.apple.com, Stichwort NeXTAnswers. Unter dem
Schlagwort "TimeZone" solltest Du einen Patch für 3.x finden.
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pa=DFwort=E4nderung?= verhindern?
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In <6l4329$af7$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Georg Schwarz wrote:
> Wie kann ich bei NEXTSTEP 2.1 verhindern, daß ein Benutzer sein Paßwort
> ändert? /bin/passwd das suid-bit wegzunehmen, scheint nichts zu bringen.
> Wir verwenden übrigens lediglich ein lokales Netinfodatabase (standalone
> Maschine).
Warum willst Du das verhindern? Wieso darf ein Benutzer sein Paßwort nicht
verändern? Als Root kommst Du doch immer an die Daten aller Nutzer, egal
welches Paßwort eingegeben wurde ...
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From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
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Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Wie kann ich bei NEXTSTEP 2.1 verhindern, daß ein Benutzer sein Paßwort
> ändert? /bin/passwd das suid-bit wegzunehmen, scheint nichts zu bringen.
Warum setzt Du /bin/passwd nicht einfach auf mode 500?
Gruß,
Rainer
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
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Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Pa=DFwort=E4nderung?= verhindern?
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rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll) writes:
>Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> Wie kann ich bei NEXTSTEP 2.1 verhindern, daß ein Benutzer sein Paßwort
>> ändert? /bin/passwd das suid-bit wegzunehmen, scheint nichts zu bringen.
>Warum setzt Du /bin/passwd nicht einfach auf mode 500?
OK, das ginge. Allerdings könnte natürlich jeder sich ein anderes Binary
besorgen. Mich fragt's halt, wieso es ohne suid-Bit geht. Hängt wohl
irgendwie mit dem Netinfo-System zusammen.
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
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Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Pa=DFwort=E4nderung?= verhindern?
Date: 4 Jun 1998 07:56:51 GMT
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gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann) writes:
>Warum willst Du das verhindern? Wieso darf ein Benutzer sein Paßwort nicht
>verändern? Als Root kommst Du doch immer an die Daten aller Nutzer, egal
>welches Paßwort eingegeben wurde ...
natürlich :-)
Das ganze soll eine Maschine ohne persönliche Accounts werden
(TCP/IP-Services werden natürlich abgestellt). Ich möchte halt verhindern,
daß rumspielende User spaßeshalber das Paßwort (das auch leer sein kann)
des (einigen) Benutzeraccounts ändern und der Admin es wieder zurücksetzen
muß.
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
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Date: 4 Jun 98 08:50:58 GMT
Ernst_Biesalski@magicvillage.de (Ernst Biesalski) wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>wie bekomme ich es geregelt, ueber ein Modem Kontakt mit meinem ISP
>herzustellen?
>
>Welche Software ist erforderlich?
ppp
>
>Welches Kabel ist erforderlich? Geht ein normales
>Mac-Hardware-Handshake-Kabel?
nein, musst Du selber loeten, ist aber nicht schwierig (jedenfalls hab ichs
auch geschafft :-))
>
>Wo gibt es Infos zu dem Thema?
ftp.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE unter /pub/next/ppp
ich habe den ppp.installation.kit am laufen und das funktioniert ganz gut
auch wenns nur ppp 2.2 ist.
>
>An Hardware ist vorhanden eine schwarze NeXT-Station und ein Modem mit
>Rockwell Chipsatz.
keine Ahnung ob das Funktionieren mit nem Chipsatz zusammenhaengt
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From: r.sokoll@intershop.de (Rainer Sokoll)
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Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pa=DFwort=E4nderung?= verhindern?
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Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> OK, das ginge. Allerdings könnte natürlich jeder sich ein anderes Binary
> besorgen. Mich fragt's halt, wieso es ohne suid-Bit geht. Hängt wohl
> irgendwie mit dem Netinfo-System zusammen.
Nur so ein Verdacht: kann es sein, daß passwd niutil/niload aufruft und diese
ihrerseits suid sind? Sollte sich mit strace oder auch einem einfachen strings
herausfinden lassen.
Gruß,
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From: wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber)
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Subject: Re: Tool ala a2ps
Date: 4 Jun 1998 09:26:16 GMT
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Mario Illgen (Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE) wrote:
: vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) wrote:
: >> gibt es fuer fuer NeXT ein Tool (wie a2ps) mit dem man ASCII in
: >> Postscript konvertieren kann _und_ dabei mehrere ASCII-Seiten auf
: >> eine PS-Seite bekommt??
: >
: >man 1 enscript.
: >
: Danke fuer Tip, leider scheint das nicht mit Umlauten klarzukommen...
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
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Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Pa=DFwort=E4nderung?= verhindern?
Date: 4 Jun 1998 09:42:13 GMT
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In article <6l5jrh$fkq$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de
(Georg Schwarz) writes:
> rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll) writes:
> >> Wie kann ich bei NEXTSTEP 2.1 verhindern, da ein Benutzer sein Pa wort
> >> ndert? /bin/passwd das suid-bit wegzunehmen, scheint nichts zu bringen.
>
> >Warum setzt Du /bin/passwd nicht einfach auf mode 500?
>
> OK, das ginge. Allerdings k nnte nat rlich jeder sich ein anderes Binary
> besorgen. Mich fragt's halt, wieso es ohne suid-Bit geht. H ngt wohl
> irgendwie mit dem Netinfo-System zusammen.
Mit NetInfoManager.app findest Du bei jedem Eintrag in /user/*
ein Tag namens _writers_passwd das ueblicherweise als Wert
den Namen der Kennung hat. Aender es auf _writers_passwd = root
und die User koennen das passwd nicht mehr aendern.
Zumindest geht das unter 3.x so - bei 2.x bin ich mir nicht sicher.
Du kannst Dir den Inhalt von NI (hier fuer Kennung 'me') Ansehen z.B. mit
% nidump -r /users/me .
name = me;
_writers_passwd = me;
gid = 20;
home = /me;
passwd = OQblablaKFsUQ;
realname = "My Account";
shell = /bin/csh;
uid = 19;
CHILDREN = {
name = info;
_writers = me;
};
/bin/passwd greift tatsaechlich auf NetInfo zu, weshalb die
Zugriffs-Erlaubnis dort verwaltet wird und nicht durch das
SUID Bit des passwd-Executables.
Detlev
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From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
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Subject: Re: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:43:12 +0200
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Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de> wrote:
> Im übrigen gibt es doch allein in der Budesrepublick schon einige Firmen
> und Projekte, die sich der Technologie Apple/NeXT verschrieben haben. Wie
> wäre es mit IPS, der Object-Factory, der InIS oder einigen anderen?
Dann nenn' mal einige andere mehr. Ich kann sie nicht finden. Was
natuerlich nicht heisst, dass es sie nicht gibt, aber das sie ziemlich
versteckt sind. Apple koennte ja auch so schlau sein und mit den tollen
Firmen werben, die schon heute mit dem Betriebssystem der Zukunft
arbeiten...
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
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Subject: Re: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Date: 4 Jun 1998 10:13:40 GMT
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schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig) wrote:
>Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de> wrote:
>
>> Im übrigen gibt es doch allein in der Budesrepublick schon einige Firmen
>> und Projekte, die sich der Technologie Apple/NeXT verschrieben haben. Wie
>> wäre es mit IPS, der Object-Factory, der InIS oder einigen anderen?
>
>Dann nenn' mal einige andere mehr. Ich kann sie nicht finden. Was
>natuerlich nicht heisst, dass es sie nicht gibt, aber das sie ziemlich
>versteckt sind. Apple koennte ja auch so schlau sein und mit den tollen
>Firmen werben, die schon heute mit dem Betriebssystem der Zukunft
>arbeiten...
Es sind mehr als du denkst, Michael.. WebObjects zB ist definitiv
da, es ist nur wahnsinnig low-key hier in Deutschland. Und ich kenne
ein paar kleine, aber sehr feine Firmen, die mit OPENSTEP arbeiten,
weil es eine sehr produktive Umgebung ist. Und seit kurzem gibt es
sogar ein funktionierendes YB/NT. Go figure..
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From: Mario Illgen <Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE>
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Subject: Re: Tool ala a2ps
Date: 4 Jun 1998 12:15:02 GMT
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wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber) wrote:
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>Drucken->Speichern (mit mehreren Seiten pro Blatt)
>
Das geht... Hatte diese Moeglichkeit immer im Druckpanel gesucht, der
Gedanke, es mal bei Seitenlayout zu probieren (geht auch mit Edit)
kam mir gar nicht :-((
Danke!!
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 2.1 und Sommerzeit?
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Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
: Wie bringe ich NEXTSTEP 2.1 bei, korrekt die aktuellen Regel für die
: Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit zu verwenden?
Timezone-Info-Files neu mit den richtigen Anfangs- und Enddaten fuer
die Sommerzeit erzeugen. (siehe 'man zic')
Henrik Hempelmann hatte mal, bevor es den offiziellen Patch von NeXT
gab, einen entsprechenden Patch zusammengestellt.
Ich glaube, das ist der hier:
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/unix/timezones96.README
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/unix/timezones96.tar.gz
HTH,
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
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Subject: Re: Tool ala a2ps
Date: 4 Jun 1998 12:46:54 GMT
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Mario Illgen <Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE> wrote:
>wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber) wrote:
>>Text in den Textverarbeitung laden
>>Drucken->Speichern (mit mehreren Seiten pro Blatt)
>>
>Das geht... Hatte diese Moeglichkeit immer im Druckpanel gesucht, der
>Gedanke, es mal bei Seitenlayout zu probieren (geht auch mit Edit)
>kam mir gar nicht :-((
tja :-) und fuer den Fall, dass man aus irgendeinem Grund
schon eine fertige PS Datei hat, nimmt man "psnup".
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From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
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Subject: Re: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 19:48:43 +0200
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
> schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig) wrote:
> >Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de> wrote:
> >
> >> Im übrigen gibt es doch allein in der Budesrepublick schon einige Firmen
> >> und Projekte, die sich der Technologie Apple/NeXT verschrieben haben. Wie
> >> wäre es mit IPS, der Object-Factory, der InIS oder einigen anderen?
> >
> >Dann nenn' mal einige andere mehr. Ich kann sie nicht finden. Was
> >natuerlich nicht heisst, dass es sie nicht gibt, aber das sie ziemlich
> >versteckt sind. Apple koennte ja auch so schlau sein und mit den tollen
> >Firmen werben, die schon heute mit dem Betriebssystem der Zukunft
> >arbeiten...
>
> Es sind mehr als du denkst, Michael.. WebObjects zB ist definitiv
> da, es ist nur wahnsinnig low-key hier in Deutschland. Und ich kenne
> ein paar kleine, aber sehr feine Firmen, die mit OPENSTEP arbeiten,
> weil es eine sehr produktive Umgebung ist. Und seit kurzem gibt es
> sogar ein funktionierendes YB/NT. Go figure..
Grummel. Ich denke ueberhaupt nicht, dass es wenige sind. Ich aergere
mich bloss, dass sie sich so verdammt gut verstecken. "Go figure" klingt
da arg ironisch, als haette ich nicht versucht wen oder was zu finden.
Aber mit Suchmaschinen und auf Job-Boersen ist es voellig aussichtslos.
Nun gehoere ich aber nicht schon seit Jahren der NeXT-Gemeinde, sondern
komme aus der Apple-Kiste, weiss ich leider nicht, welche Steine ich
umdrehen muss, um darunter die kleinen, feinen Firmen zu entdecken.
Michael
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
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Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 2.1 und Sommerzeit?
Date: 4 Jun 1998 17:54:55 GMT
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gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann) writes:
>Du brauchst einen kleinen Patch, den Du in den NeXTAnsers findest. Suche mal
>unter http://enterprise.apple.com, Stichwort NeXTAnswers. Unter dem
>Schlagwort "TimeZone" solltest Du einen Patch für 3.x finden.
zum Glück hatte ich noch eine 3.3 NeXT, auf der ich sowieso schon den
Patch installiert habe. Ich habe dann einfach davon /pribate/etc/zoneinfo
und /usr/template/client/etc/zoneinfo in ein tar-File gepackt und auf der
2.1er NeXT ausgepackt. Scheint zu funktionieren.
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
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Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Pa=DFwort=E4nderung?= verhindern?
Date: 4 Jun 1998 17:57:43 GMT
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droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) writes:
>Mit NetInfoManager.app findest Du bei jedem Eintrag in /user/*
>ein Tag namens _writers_passwd das ueblicherweise als Wert
>den Namen der Kennung hat. Aender es auf _writers_passwd = root
>und die User koennen das passwd nicht mehr aendern.
in comp.sys.next.sysadmin hatte man mir geraten, die Resource zu löschen,
was ich auch getan habe.
Damit scheitern nun Versuche des entsprechenden Benutzers, sein Paßwort zu
ändern. Scheint so zu funktionieren, wie ich es haben wollte.
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Date: 4 Jun 1998 18:46:39 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig) wrote:
>Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>
>> Es sind mehr als du denkst, Michael.. WebObjects zB ist definitiv
>> da, es ist nur wahnsinnig low-key hier in Deutschland. Und ich kenne
>> ein paar kleine, aber sehr feine Firmen, die mit OPENSTEP arbeiten,
>> weil es eine sehr produktive Umgebung ist. Und seit kurzem gibt es
>> sogar ein funktionierendes YB/NT. Go figure..
>
>Grummel. Ich denke ueberhaupt nicht, dass es wenige sind. Ich aergere
>mich bloss, dass sie sich so verdammt gut verstecken. "Go figure" klingt
>da arg ironisch, als haette ich nicht versucht wen oder was zu finden.
Sorry, das war nicht meine Absicht. Ich wollte auf die Bedeutung
der YB bezueglich der Moeglichkeit fuer kundenspezifische Entwicklung
hinweisen. Nein, sicher sind diese Firmen sozusagen 'versteckt', das
haengt vielleicht mit dem schlechten Image zusammen, welches NeXT
(voellig zu unrecht) in Kreisen der SW Industrie hat. Aber es gibt
sie sehr wohl - einige meiner besten Freunde arbeiten bei verschiedenen
Openstep-basierten Laeden :-).
>Aber mit Suchmaschinen und auf Job-Boersen ist es voellig aussichtslos.
>Nun gehoere ich aber nicht schon seit Jahren der NeXT-Gemeinde, sondern
>komme aus der Apple-Kiste, weiss ich leider nicht, welche Steine ich
>umdrehen muss, um darunter die kleinen, feinen Firmen zu entdecken.
Hm, poste doch mal ein Resume - wenn du Erfahrung mit der Openstep-API
oder WebObjects hast, findet sich bestimmt etwas interessantes. Gerade
diese Gruppe wird von wesentlich mehr Leuten - auch aus der Industrie -
gelesen, als es aktive Poster gibt. Viele Gruesse zB nach Hamburg :-)
ObPlug: Eine sehr gute Moeglichkeit, technisch auf dem neuesten Stand
zu bleiben, ist natuerlich ein Abbonement der NEXTTOYOU.
Sich duckend, Chris
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
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From: stefan.boehringer_REMOVE_ME_@ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 4 Jun 1998 19:08:24 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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>Ich denke halt, dass Apple hofft, mit den G3 und G4 Maschinen eine echte
>Alternative zu Intel bieten zu koennen. Ein halbwegs vernünftiger Compaq
>mit SCSI kostet gleich viel wie ein G3/300 (Das sind nicht nur leere
>Worte, ich habe grade heute zwei Preislisten verglichen).
Wozu SCSI? Intel-Hardware war und ist bis heute immer deutlich billiger als Apple-Hardware.
[..]
>und die Modellvielfalt, besonders bei Notebooks. Aber wenn Apple mit dem
>Elan der letzten Monate weitermacht und die Wintel Welt noch auf ein paar
>weitere Hindernisse stoesst sieht die Zukunft für Apple und den Rest der
>freien Welt ;-) schon rosiger aus als noch vor einem Jahr.
Oh weh... auf diesen Elan kann ich verzichten :-). Doch das Problem mit der "freien Welt" ist
gerade: Apple/NeXT-Besitzer sind die Gefangenen. Nur in der Intel Welt ist man unabhängig von
Herstellern (etwa: es ex. das Wintel-freie System).
Alles Gute,
Stefan
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From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Subject: Serviceverstaendnis (Re: Der 'ofizielle' Grund ...)
Message-ID: <1998Jun4.175548.24169@boba.rhein-main.de>
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In article <6l3aia$oi0$1@news.LF.net> "Markus Wenzel"
<Markus.Wenzel@brokat.de> writes:
> >> Die anderen (= meistens die Kunden der Belichter und Druckereien)
> >> haben nicht mal das Problem verstanden, wie sollen sie sich dann
> >> f r die L sung interessieren?
> >
> >Sie haben das Problem niemals gehabt - wozu sollten sie es
> >verstehen?
>
> Komisch, wieso hatte ich dann soviel genau damit zu tun, wenn andere
> Plattformen im PrePress angeblich keine Probleme machen?
Hattest Du als Kunde Probleme mit Deinen Dateien bei einem
Belichtungsservice? Dann hattest Du das falschen Serviceunternehmen!
Oder hattest Du als Belichter Probleme mit den Daten Deiner Kunden?
Dann ist NeXTStep, OPENSTEP und darunter laufende Software sicherlich
einer der Loesungsmoeglichkeiten dieser Probleme.
Wie auch immer - den schwarzen Peter (und damit die Moeglichkeit,
ueberhaupt erst mit den genannten Problemen in Beruehrung zu kommen)
hat das Service-Unternehmen, und nicht der DTP-Anwender. Letzteren
gehen die Probleme schlicht nichts an - er erwartet zurecht (weil er
naemlich dafuer bezahlt), dass diese Problem geloest werden, ohne dass
er etwas damit zu tun hat.
-Borris -
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... fuer den einen ist's das Internet -
fuer den anderen die laengste Leitung der Welt!
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Subject: NEXT HARDWARE SPECIALS
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From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 22:24:41 +0200
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
> schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig) wrote:
> >Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
> >
> >> Es sind mehr als du denkst, Michael.. WebObjects zB ist definitiv
> >> da, es ist nur wahnsinnig low-key hier in Deutschland. Und ich kenne
> >> ein paar kleine, aber sehr feine Firmen, die mit OPENSTEP arbeiten,
> >> weil es eine sehr produktive Umgebung ist. Und seit kurzem gibt es
> >> sogar ein funktionierendes YB/NT. Go figure..
> >
> >Grummel. Ich denke ueberhaupt nicht, dass es wenige sind. Ich aergere
> >mich bloss, dass sie sich so verdammt gut verstecken. "Go figure" klingt
> >da arg ironisch, als haette ich nicht versucht wen oder was zu finden.
>
> Sorry, das war nicht meine Absicht. Ich wollte auf die Bedeutung
> der YB bezueglich der Moeglichkeit fuer kundenspezifische Entwicklung
> hinweisen. Nein, sicher sind diese Firmen sozusagen 'versteckt', das
> haengt vielleicht mit dem schlechten Image zusammen, welches NeXT
> (voellig zu unrecht) in Kreisen der SW Industrie hat. Aber es gibt
> sie sehr wohl - einige meiner besten Freunde arbeiten bei verschiedenen
> Openstep-basierten Laeden :-).
Oh, ich kenne auch jemand, der bei so einer Firma arbeitet, bei der ich
wohl haette anfangen koennen. [Und ich bin ueberrascht, dass er mir hier
beim Rumfragen noch nicht auf die Finger geklopft hat.] Aber ich haette
gerne ein wenig Auswahl. Viele Leute wollen sich nicht zu Apple-Hardware
zwingen lassen; ich moechte zwischen mehr als zwei oder drei Firmen
auswaehlen koennen.
> Hm, poste doch mal ein Resume - wenn du Erfahrung mit der Openstep-API
> oder WebObjects hast, findet sich bestimmt etwas interessantes.
Erfahrung habe ich ja gerade noch nicht. Haette ich sie, dann wuerde ich
mich wahrscheinlich auch in der Szene auskennen. Aber wenn ich aehnlich
erfolgreich weitersuche, wie bisher, und Apple RDR2 endlich auch an die
niederen Kasten herausrueckt, dann aendert sich das wohl bald.
Sagt mir jetzt bitte nicht, dass ich als (fast) (Berufs-)Anfaenger erst
durch die Windows-Hoelle muss.
Michael
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From: Heiner_Wolfram@magicvillage.de (Heiner Wolfram)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Distribution: world
Subject: OS X fŸr Intel
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 00:28:16 +0200
Message-ID: <19185439.108043301@magicvillage.de>
Organization: Systematics
OS X for Intel -- Whispers gaining momentum
The ususal suspects at Japan's "Mac Treasure Tracing Club" are reporting
that Apple reps at a
recent Japanese printing conference stated that Mac OS X would "run on
Pentium machines."
Unconfirmed reports of the Carbon libraries and 'Blue Box Fragment' (the
only currently
100% Mac-only components of OS X) being quietly ported to Intel continue
to trickle in, but
no confirmable information is yet available [shameless bean-spillers
apply within].
Also noted by Japanese sources was a statement by Apple representatives
suggesting that the
low-cost Apple portable scheduled to ship in early 1999 will be in the
same price range as the
iMac -- $1299 introduction, level-out at $999 within six months.
Update: Several sources have confirmed the OS X/Intel rumors, with at
least one individual
known to be close to Carbon porting efforts saying "the answer is
definitelly YES!" in
confidential correspondence. No word yet from high-placed Apple sources.
Vielleicht wird's ja doch was...
Heiner
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From: dirk@object-factory.com (Dirk Olmes)
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Subject: Re: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Date: 5 Jun 1998 10:34:27 GMT
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schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig) wrote:
>Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>> schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig) wrote:
>> >Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Es sind mehr als du denkst, Michael.. WebObjects zB ist definitiv
>> >> da, es ist nur wahnsinnig low-key hier in Deutschland. Und ich kenne
>> >> ein paar kleine, aber sehr feine Firmen, die mit OPENSTEP arbeiten,
>> >> weil es eine sehr produktive Umgebung ist. Und seit kurzem gibt es
>> >> sogar ein funktionierendes YB/NT. Go figure..
>> >
>> >Grummel. Ich denke ueberhaupt nicht, dass es wenige sind. Ich aergere
>> >mich bloss, dass sie sich so verdammt gut verstecken. "Go figure" klingt
>> >da arg ironisch, als haette ich nicht versucht wen oder was zu finden.
>
>> Sorry, das war nicht meine Absicht. Ich wollte auf die Bedeutung
>> der YB bezueglich der Moeglichkeit fuer kundenspezifische Entwicklung
>> hinweisen. Nein, sicher sind diese Firmen sozusagen 'versteckt', das
>> haengt vielleicht mit dem schlechten Image zusammen, welches NeXT
>> (voellig zu unrecht) in Kreisen der SW Industrie hat. Aber es gibt
>> sie sehr wohl - einige meiner besten Freunde arbeiten bei verschiedenen
>> Openstep-basierten Laeden :-).
>
>Oh, ich kenne auch jemand, der bei so einer Firma arbeitet, bei der ich
>wohl haette anfangen koennen. [Und ich bin ueberrascht, dass er mir hier
>beim Rumfragen noch nicht auf die Finger geklopft hat.] Aber ich haette
>gerne ein wenig Auswahl. Viele Leute wollen sich nicht zu Apple-Hardware
>zwingen lassen; ich moechte zwischen mehr als zwei oder drei Firmen
>auswaehlen koennen.
... dann gibt dir einer derjenigen jetzt mal was auf die Finger!
Ich glaube, als du darmals in der Fabrik warst, haben sowohl Holger als auch
ich klar gemacht, dass wir Leute suchen und bereit sind, auf deren Wuensche
zu reagieren. Jetzt hier oeffentlich rumweinen, dass es keine Arbeitgeber in
diesem Bereich gibt, finde ich unfair.
Ich denke, im Bereich OPENSTEP Entwicklung haben nicht viele Leute
"ueberlebt", gerade weil's ja eine Nischenloesung war, deren Fortbestand vor
dem Merger auch nicht so ganz klar war ...
>> Hm, poste doch mal ein Resume - wenn du Erfahrung mit der Openstep-API
>> oder WebObjects hast, findet sich bestimmt etwas interessantes.
>
>Erfahrung habe ich ja gerade noch nicht. Haette ich sie, dann wuerde ich
>mich wahrscheinlich auch in der Szene auskennen. Aber wenn ich aehnlich
>erfolgreich weitersuche, wie bisher, und Apple RDR2 endlich auch an die
>niederen Kasten herausrueckt, dann aendert sich das wohl bald.
>
>Sagt mir jetzt bitte nicht, dass ich als (fast) (Berufs-)Anfaenger erst
>durch die Windows-Hoelle muss.
Unsinn! Es soll durchaus noch Arbeitgeber geben, die Bewerber nach ihrem
Potential bewerten, nicht nach ihrer Berufserfahrung. Gerade wenn man in dem
doch recht kleinen Segment "OPENSTEP Entwickler" Leute sucht, wird man wohl
nicht umhin kommen, faehige Leute zu suchen, die man dann auf OPENSTEP
schult. Wir haben damit gute Erfahrungen gemacht, man darf halt nur nicht die
ueblichen Masstaebe anwenden.
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From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:29:43 +0200
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Dirk Olmes <dirk@object-factory.com> wrote:
> schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig) wrote:
> >Oh, ich kenne auch jemand, der bei so einer Firma arbeitet, bei der ich
> >wohl haette anfangen koennen. [Und ich bin ueberrascht, dass er mir hier
> >beim Rumfragen noch nicht auf die Finger geklopft hat.] Aber ich haette
> >gerne ein wenig Auswahl. Viele Leute wollen sich nicht zu Apple-Hardware
> >zwingen lassen; ich moechte zwischen mehr als zwei oder drei Firmen
> >auswaehlen koennen.
>
> ... dann gibt dir einer derjenigen jetzt mal was auf die Finger!
> Ich glaube, als du darmals in der Fabrik warst, haben sowohl Holger als auch
> ich klar gemacht, dass wir Leute suchen und bereit sind, auf deren Wuensche
> zu reagieren. Jetzt hier oeffentlich rumweinen, dass es keine Arbeitgeber in
> diesem Bereich gibt, finde ich unfair.
Hi Dirk,
ich denke nicht, dass ich irgendwen unfair behandelt habe. Wenn Du das
anders siehst, dann erklaer's mir -- per Mail.
Ich weiss, dass es die Fabrik gibt; ich weiss, dass es eine coole Firma
ist. Aber ich will nicht glauben, dass es in ganz Deutschland nur eine
kinderhandvoll solcher Firmen gibt. Ich moechte bei einer Firma
anfangen, die ich mir ausgesucht habe und das setzt Auswahl voraus. Ganz
sicher will ich nicht von einem coolen Laden zum naechsten, noch
cooleren, huepfen, um dann einen echt eiskalten... usw. Daran werden
auch die Firmen selbst kein Interesse haben, nehme ich an.
> Unsinn! Es soll durchaus noch Arbeitgeber geben, die Bewerber nach ihrem
> Potential bewerten, nicht nach ihrer Berufserfahrung. Gerade wenn man in dem
> doch recht kleinen Segment "OPENSTEP Entwickler" Leute sucht, wird man wohl
> nicht umhin kommen, faehige Leute zu suchen, die man dann auf OPENSTEP
> schult. Wir haben damit gute Erfahrungen gemacht, man darf halt nur nicht die
> ueblichen Masstaebe anwenden.
Nun, die Kommentare in diesem Thread waren aber eher "Wenn Du Web-Obj
oder ... beherrscht, dann ...". Wahrscheinlich war es nicht so eng
gemeint, aber trotzdem so gesagt. Andere Kommentatoren haben orakelt,
dass es ganz bestimmt Firmen gibt. Dabei sind ganze drei namentlich
erwaehnt worden.
Mein Eindruck von Rhapsody ist gut, ich will damit arbeiten. Ich koennte
auch im Mac OS-, Windows-, Unix-Markt nach einem Job suchen. Es waere
einfacher, aber ich halte Rhapsody fuer besser, sonst haette ich wohl
kaum diese Diskussion begonnen.
Aber ich frage mich nach wie vor, wo die Leute sind, die schon jetzt und
seit langem _kommerziell_ mit OPENSTEP oder Rhapsody arbeiten. Wenn die
es fuer noetig halten, zu verbergen, womit sie arbeiten, dann halte ich
das fuer ein schlechtes Zeichen.
> <shameless plug>
> Die Object Factory sucht nach wie vor Leute, die sich mit OPENSTEP
> Entwicklung auskennen oder sich darin schlau machen wollen. Wir machen
> hauptsaechlich WebObjects Loesungen, in letzter Zeit aber auch wieder mehr
> mit AppKit. Bei Interesse mailto:dirk@object-factory.com
> </shameless plug>
Was ist denn daran schamlos? Ich bin ziemlich sicher, dass viele Leute,
die gerne mit OPENSTEP arbeiten moechten, bisher weder von Eurer
Existenz wussten und erst recht nicht ahnten, dass ihr Mitarbeiter
sucht. Ich waere jedenfalls dankbar, wenn alle Firmen, die in diesem
Bereich Leute suchen, ihre Scham ueberwaenden.
Michael
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From: "Dr. Michael Paus" <Michael.Paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,stgt.next
Subject: Einladung zum naechsten NeKSt-Treffen in Stuttgart
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 15:47:55 +0200
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
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Hallo NeXT-Fans,
es ist mal wieder Zeit fuer unseren ueblichen NeXT-Stammtisch.
Ich habe daher fuer den kommenden Montag den 8. 6. 1998 um 20.00h wieder
einen Tisch im Sherlock reserviert. Alle die an einem Kloenschnack mit der
Stuttgarter NeXT User Gruppe Interesse haben sollten mal vorbeikommen.
(Fuer alle die immer noch nicht wissen wo das Sherlock ist:
Stuttgart Vaihingen, Pfaffenwaldring 62, Tel. 0711/6874909)
Ich hoffe auf zahlreiches Erscheinen
Michael
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Tool ala a2ps
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 22:33:58 +0200
Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin
Message-ID: <schwarz-0506982233590001@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de>
References: <6l3c7j$j9m$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
In article <6l3c7j$j9m$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>,
Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE wrote:
>gibt es fuer fuer NeXT ein Tool (wie a2ps) mit dem man ASCII in
>Postscript konvertieren kann _und_ dabei mehrere ASCII-Seiten auf
>eine PS-Seite bekommt??
wieso kompilierst Du nicht a2ps?
--
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Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130
Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Crashkurs fuer einen Unix-Laien
Date: 6 Jun 1998 14:53:58 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <6lbl66$46h$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann) wrote:
> In <1da24wb.k2iljf1cfo4hsN@hh18a.vnet.de> Ernst Biesalski wrote:
> > Nach jetzt ca. sechs Jahren reizt es mich doch, mal unter die NeXT-Step
> > Oberflaeche zu schauen.
> >
> > Gibt es darueber Literatur, die erst einmal in das Thema Unix und seine
> > Moeglichkeiten, moeglichst fuer NeXT-Rechner, einfuehrt und die fuer ein
> > "Do It Yourself" Studium ausreicht?
>
> Hi!
>
> In der letzten (aktuellen) NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) haben wir
> eine Unix-Serie gestartet, die den Laien erklärt, was sich hinter den
> ganzen Kommandos verbirgt.
Speziell zum Zusammenspiel NEXTSTEP-UNIX gab es auch schon einen sehr langen
und gründlichen Artikel in der NEXTTOYOU 3/97 ("Wie sag ich's meinem
Comüputer?"), der sich speziell an Einsteiger gerichtet hat. Auch sonst gibt
es immer wieder Beiträge in der NEXTTOYOU, die sich mit UNIX und NEXTSTEP
befassen, gerade weil es - meines Wissens - außerhalb der NEXTTOYOU sowas
nirgendwo gibt.
Tschau
Uli
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From: ergo@camelot.in-berlin.de (Olaf Foellinger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Compilerfehler
Date: 6 Jun 1998 21:04:19 GMT
Organization: Individual Network Berlin e.V.
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Hi,
beim Linken (unter OS4.2) bin ich auf folgendes Problem gestoßen:
/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
_rewinddir
Ich habe ja schon vom schlechten POSIX-Support gehört, aber sind einzelne
Funktionen nicht implementiert ? Oder habe ich was anderes vergessen ?
Gruß Olaf
--
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NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.uunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Compilerfehler
Date: 6 Jun 1998 23:54:16 GMT
Organization: the unstoppable code machine
Message-ID: <6lckr8$6mg@ragnarok.en.uunet.de>
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Olaf Foellinger wrote:
> beim Linken (unter OS4.2) bin ich auf folgendes Problem gestoßen:
>
> /bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
> _rewinddir
>
> Ich habe ja schon vom schlechten POSIX-Support gehört, aber sind einzelne
> Funktionen nicht implementiert ? Oder habe ich was anderes vergessen ?
Hm..
hhoff>nm libposix.a | grep rewinddir
nm: no name list
libposix.a(rewinddir.o):
00000000 T _rewinddir
Also da isses..aber wahrscheinlich hast Du Dir bei der 4.2 Installation
die /usr/lib/libposix.a gelöscht (der Installer ist der Ansicht, sie sei
obsolet, womit er nicht mal so Unrecht hat..)
Einfach von 4.1 rüberkopieren, fertig. Oder Mail schreiben. :)
Holger
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@work: holger"at"object-factory.com | it makes me wonder
@home: hhoff"at"ragnarok.en.uunet.de | how I keep from going under
rning:
this is the location of the previous definition
hhoff>
Grr..ohne -posix ist rewinddir also schon als Makro definiert..ergo kommt
das #define wieder raus und siehe da:
hhoff>cc bla.c -o bla
hhoff>bla
hhoff>
Was will man mehr?
Holger
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Serviceverstaendnis (Re: Der 'ofizielle' Grund ...)
Date: 6 Jun 1998 11:22:25 GMT
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <6lb8ph$1a4$2@marsu.navigator.de>
References: <6l3aia$oi0$1@news.LF.net> <1998Jun4.175548.24169@boba.rhein-main.de>
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In <1998Jun4.175548.24169@boba.rhein-main.de> Borris Balzer wrote:
> Hattest Du als Kunde Probleme mit Deinen Dateien bei einem
> Belichtungsservice? Dann hattest Du das falschen Serviceunternehmen!
>
> Oder hattest Du als Belichter Probleme mit den Daten Deiner Kunden?
> Dann ist NeXTStep, OPENSTEP und darunter laufende Software sicherlich
> einer der Loesungsmoeglichkeiten dieser Probleme.
Völlig daneben, ich hab mich zu knapp ausgedrückt. Ich wurde von mehreren
Druckereien als Spezialist beauftragt, die Probleme zu lösen, die sie mit
ihren Kundendaten hatten. Und da waren viele unter Windows und MacOS
erstellte PS-Files dabei.
--
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Serviceverstaendnis (Re: Der 'ofizielle' Grund ...)
Date: 7 Jun 1998 13:06:27 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6le38j$41l$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6l3aia$oi0$1@news.LF.net> <1998Jun4.175548.24169@boba.rhein-main.de> <6lb8ph$1a4$2@marsu.navigator.de>
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mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) wrote:
>Völlig daneben, ich hab mich zu knapp ausgedrückt. Ich wurde von mehreren
>Druckereien als Spezialist beauftragt, die Probleme zu lösen, die sie mit
>ihren Kundendaten hatten. Und da waren viele unter Windows und MacOS
>erstellte PS-Files dabei.
Hm, und konntest du sie loesen? Ich bin seinerzeit zu dem Ergebnis
gekommen, dass das in MS Office erzeugte PS total FUBAR ist. Wir
konnten aber zum Glueck bei der Dokumentenerzeugung auf PDF Writer
umsteigen (der dann brauchbares PDF erzeugt).
Wie MS es uebrigens schafft, PS zu erzeugen, welches zwar (meistens)
gedruckt werden, aber nirgendwo per SW interpretiert kann, ist mir
bis heute verborgen geblieben. Vielleicht kann Frank uns erleuchten..
Regards, Chris
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From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: TexView und Postscript Fonts?
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 16:06:53 +0000
Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany)
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.980607154652.535A-100000@link.mylink.uni-bonn.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Kann mir jemand sagen weshalb TexView im Zusammenhang mit Latex2e und
Postscriptfonts (usepackage times) Metafont aufruft und wie man das
verhindert und TexView zur richtigen Darstellung bringt?
Mit NextTex Paket (2.09) hat es funktioniert.
Regards
Konstantin Wiesel
Email:uzs8n8@uni-bonn.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: SafetyNet Hilfe
Message-ID: <Eu6JxK.725@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <6l0k8g$5a5$1@fu-berlin.de>
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 11:58:32 GMT
In article <6l0k8g$5a5$1@fu-berlin.de> thomas@catlan.met.FU-Berlin.DE
(Thomas Hensel) writes:
> Einer unserer Kunden hat eine SafetyNet-Prof. Lizenz und hat ein
> sehr grosses Problem:
>
> Das automatisierte Backup schlug Sonntags morgen fehl mit folgender
> Meldung Backup Error: READ POSITION
...munch...
> !!! Dieses Backup ist !sehr! wichtig. Wie koennen die es retten ?
>
> Da nur der Label nicht mehr lesbar ist, muesste doch eigentlich
> der Rest lesbar sein ? Kann ich alle backup-saetze vom Tape auf Platte
> schreiben und dann auf ein neues Tape wieder kopieren ?
> Oder kann ich einfach wieder ein Label drauf schreiben, *ohne*
> den Rest zu loeschen ???
>
> Hat jemand eine Idee ???
>
Unbedingt mal auf einem/mehreren anderen Laufwerk/en probieren. Das
Helical Scan-Zeug ist recht empfindlich umd moeglicherweise hat sich ja
nur heimlich still und leise die Spurlage verschoben...
Fuer jemanden, dem sein Backup so extrem wichtig ist, sind inkrementelle
Verfahren extrem riskant. Und von full backups wuerde ich immer eine Kopie
ziehen (zweimal das Gleiche auf zwei Baender geht zwar auch aber es ist
dann immer das gleiche Drive...; zwei Drives und das Band mit 'dd' von
einem Drive auf das andere, danach probelesen - paranoid ? -
moeglicherweise, aber sicher ist es schon ;-)
Gute Erfahrungen habe ich mit verkaemmten inkrementellen Verfahren
gemacht. Man zieht zwei full backups in zeitlichem Abstand und faehrt zwei
Zuege incremental backups, je von einem der full backups aus. Wenn dann
ein Zug ausfaellt, egal wegen was, kann man ihn mit mildem Aufwand (ist
Arbeit aber kein Desaster) wieder neu aufsetzen.
--
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From: Mario Illgen <Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Tool ala a2ps
Date: 7 Jun 1998 22:31:33 GMT
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
Message-ID: <6lf4c5$1mk$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
References: <6l3c7j$j9m$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <schwarz-0506982233590001@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de>
schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) wrote:
>wieso kompilierst Du nicht a2ps?
>
cc -o ./xa2ps a2ps.o
/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
_S_ISFIFO
Und wahrscheinlich wuerde auch die auf OS kompilierte Version nicht
mit Umlauten klarkommen... Die Sache mit dem Seitenlayout reicht fuer
meinen Zweck.
Ciao, Mario
--
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"It's a perfect day to throw back your head and kiss it all goodbye..."
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Serviceverstaendnis (Re: Der 'ofizielle' Grund ...)
Date: 8 Jun 1998 00:15:19 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
Message-ID: <6lfaen$4t1$1@news.seicom.net>
References: <6l3aia$oi0$1@news.LF.net> <1998Jun4.175548.24169@boba.rhein-main.de>
<6lb8ph$1a4$2@marsu.navigator.de> <6le38j$41l$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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In <6le38j$41l$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> Hm, und konntest du sie loesen? Ich bin seinerzeit zu dem Ergebnis
> gekommen, dass das in MS Office erzeugte PS total FUBAR ist. Wir
> konnten aber zum Glueck bei der Dokumentenerzeugung auf PDF Writer
> umsteigen (der dann brauchbares PDF erzeugt).
>
> Wie MS es uebrigens schafft, PS zu erzeugen, welches zwar (meistens)
> gedruckt werden, aber nirgendwo per SW interpretiert kann, ist mir
> bis heute verborgen geblieben. Vielleicht kann Frank uns erleuchten..
<Sarcasm>
Langjaehrige Planung und Metaprogrammierung ;-)
</Sarcasm>
So mit 'meistens' stimmt etwa... das Beste was ich mal hatte war das eine PS
Datei (von NT) den RIP beim Interpreterieren derart zerlegt hat, das eine
komplette Software-Neuinstallation der RIP-Software notwendig war. Sowas
saugt ziemlich wenn die Druckmaschine steht...
Der Adobe Treiber fuer W95 und der fuer NT ist uebrigens etwas besser...
(aber leider auch nicht perfekt)
--
* Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank
* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard
* "The answer is vi, what was your question...?"
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.linux.misc
From: anke@anarcoma.dialup.fu-berlin.de (Anke Ehlers)
Subject: wie booten?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Message-ID: <Eu7EnK.8n@anarcoma.in-berlin.de>
Sender: anke@anarcoma.in-berlin.de (Anke Ehlers)
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Organization: private Site, In-Berlin, Germany
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 23:02:08 GMT
Hi all,
ich will an meinen PC sowohl NEXTSTEP 3.3, Linux und DOS booten, ohne
loadlin.exe unter DOS zu verwenden und dabei moeglichst den NEXT-Bootwaehler
verwenden. Gibt es unter Linux sowas wie eine Minipartition wie unter
NEXTSTEP? Wenn ja, reichen dafuer 2 MB aus, die ich uebrig habe und wie
stelle
ich das an?
Anke
PS: Miniale Groesse fuer die Mini-NEXTSTEP-Partition auf der ersten Platte
ist uebrings 6 MB. Mit 5 MB bin ich gerade gescheidert.
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Mail.app
Date: 8 Jun 1998 07:11:36 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <6lg2r8$br@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
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Xcanpos: shelf.ophelia/199806161001!0006307775
Hallo,
ich habe hier ein kleines Problem mit Mail.app. Wenn ich eine Mail an
einen anderen User auf meinem Rechner (in diesem Fall eine installierte
Mailingliste) schicke, erscheint in der From-Zeile nur meinen
Benutzername und nicht meine volle Adresse.
Gibt es ein Möglichkeit dies zu umgehen, ohne eine zusätzliche From-Zeile
einzufügen? Die Mail wird ja durch die Liste an andere User verteilt und
die sollen meine komplette Adresse sehen.
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome
From: wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.linux.misc
Subject: Re: wie booten?
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.linux.misc
Date: 8 Jun 1998 07:57:33 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule of Karlsruhe, Germany
Message-ID: <6lg5hd$k9o$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
References: <Eu7EnK.8n@anarcoma.in-berlin.de>
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Anke Ehlers (anke@anarcoma.dialup.fu-berlin.de) wrote:
: Hi all,
: ich will an meinen PC sowohl NEXTSTEP 3.3, Linux und DOS booten, ohne
: loadlin.exe unter DOS zu verwenden und dabei moeglichst den NEXT-Bootwaehler
: verwenden. Gibt es unter Linux sowas wie eine Minipartition wie unter
: NEXTSTEP? Wenn ja, reichen dafuer 2 MB aus, die ich uebrig habe und wie
: stelle
: ich das an?
: Anke
: PS: Miniale Groesse fuer die Mini-NEXTSTEP-Partition auf der ersten Platte
: ist uebrings 6 MB. Mit 5 MB bin ich gerade gescheidert.
Nimm doch LILO (Linux Loader, siehe man pages/howto's)
Ich hatte frueher auch alle 3 OSes auf einer Platte
hat problemlos funktioniert.
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From: k@123.org (Kai Voigt)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: UUCP-Konfiguration
Date: 8 Jun 1998 06:32:33 GMT
Organization: 123.org
Message-ID: <6lg0i1$nou$1@queens.netuse.de>
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Hallo,
als frischer Besitzer einer Nextstation unter NS 3.3 plane ich,
dem Rechner UUCP beizubringen, um daheim wenigstens Email nutzen
zu können.
Wer kann mir bitte sein /etc/uucp/ einpacken und zuschicken bzw.
hier posten? Welche Änderungen sind am sendmail vorzunehmen, daß
er jede Mail ins UUCP-System pumpt? Reicht es, den Relay-Mailer
auf UUCP zu stellen und den Relay-Host auf den Nachbar-UUCP-Node
zu stellen, oder ist noch etwas an der Adressierungssyntax
zu drehen?
Einige Fragen noch zur eingebauten Mailapplikation: Da es sicherlich
keine MIME-Mails verschicken oder lesen kann, habe ich mit irgendwelchen
Kompatibilitätsproblemen zu rechnen, oder gibt es gar eine alternative
Software?
Vielen Dank schonmal für Antworten und Hinweise, auf was ich noch
zu achten habe...
Kai
PS: Falls es von Hilfe ist: Ich besitze ein Zyxel-Modem 1496E.
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From: ralf@factum-gmbh.de (Ralf E. Stranzenbach)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: PSCAT geht nicht mehr
Date: 8 Jun 1998 14:54:41 GMT
Organization: FACTUM Projektentwicklung und Management GmbH
Message-ID: <6lgtvh$59@factum.factum-gmbh.de>
Hallo,
ich habe ein merkwuerdiges Problem mit meiner NeXTSTEP3.3(Intel). Auf dieser
Maschine tut es der PSCAT nicht mehr. Das schmerzt mich besonders, da dieses
Programm ja auch von PTROFF zum paginieren der Ausgabe genutzt wird.
eomer.factum-gmbh.de> ptroff -sA4 -man -t CGI.3
pscat: trouble reading .ct file
eomer.factum-gmbh.de>
Was ist hier wohl falsch. Eine andere, auch unter NS3.3(m68k) laufende,
Maschine funktioniert klaglos.
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From: Michael Schmitz <mschmitz@student.uni-kl.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Serviceverstaendnis (Re: Der 'ofizielle' Grund ...)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 18:18:57 +0200
Organization: Universitaet Kaiserslautern
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References: <6l3aia$oi0$1@news.LF.net> <1998Jun4.175548.24169@boba.rhein-main.de> <6lb8ph$1a4$2@marsu.navigator.de>
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Markus Wenzel wrote:
hallo marcus,
und alle anderen..
> =
> V=F6llig daneben, ich hab mich zu knapp ausgedr=FCckt. Ich wurde von me=
hreren
> Druckereien als Spezialist beauftragt, die Probleme zu l=F6sen, die sie=
mit
> ihren Kundendaten hatten. Und da waren viele unter Windows und MacOS
> erstellte PS-Files dabei.
und dann noch mit Word geschrieben.. =
ich kann leider davon ein Lied singen (und der leiter unserer
Unidruckerei auch...:-(
mein Vorgaenger hatte ein Buch (217 Seiten mit 2 Indexen) in Word
angefangen....
Ich hab nachher eine Woche in der Druckerei zugebracht, weil die
windows/word dateien nicht mehr auf dem rechner richtig wollten... =
jetzt hab ich es zumindest geschafft, das man Pagemaker benutzt (word
bei sowas auf eigene Verantwortung) MAc oder NExt ging hier leider
nie....
gruss =
michael
der es immer noch nicht auf Next/und oder Nextstep gebracht hat, =
aber es immer noch mit interesse verfolgt....
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: TexView und Postscript Fonts?
Date: 8 Jun 1998 15:12:20 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development
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Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>
>Kann mir jemand sagen weshalb TexView im Zusammenhang mit Latex2e und
>Postscriptfonts (usepackage times) Metafont aufruft und wie man das
>verhindert und TexView zur richtigen Darstellung bringt?
>
>Mit NextTex Paket (2.09) hat es funktioniert.
Ich benutze derzeit einfach teTeX und tippe "pslatex DATEI.tex"
Dann kannst Du das .dvi mit dvips in ein .ps umwandeln und sehr schön in
Preview.app angucken.
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From: richard@silber.rhein-main.REMOVETHIS.de (Richard Scholz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ?die leiseste 4 oder 9gig-Platte
Date: 8 Jun 1998 17:47:54 GMT
Organization: rhein-main.de im IN e.V.
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> haette gern gewusst, welches die leiseste 4 oder 9gig-SCSI-Platte auf dem
> Markt ist, gibt es da Erfahrungen? Ich habe hier eine IBM DCAS 34330, die
> h rt man kaum, allerdings auch nur mit 5400 Umdrehungen.
Was heist "nur", die 5400 Umdrehungen sind einer der Grönde, warum sie so
leise ist :-)
Alle höher drehenden Platten, z.B. mit 7200 oder 10000 Umdrehungen, sind
momentan
eher för Server Systeme geeignet, die dort stehen, wo sie keinen stören.
Die IBM DCAS ist ne gute Wahl. Ich habe auch eine, und bin absolut zufrieden
mit der geringen LautstÙrke.
>
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From: "user" <scrooge@thepentagon.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: matrox mysitque oder kompatibl. treiber
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 21:23:07 +0200
Organization: MiND
Message-ID: <6lhdqs$66m$1@never.mind.de>
ich suche einen treiber fuer die matrox mystique 4mb karte fuer
nextstep. habe leider KEINE millenium.
gibt es das was ???
danke.
chris
From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.uunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Tool ala a2ps
Date: 8 Jun 1998 19:56:22 GMT
Organization: the unstoppable code machine
Message-ID: <6lhfl6$14k@ragnarok.en.uunet.de>
References: <6l3c7j$j9m$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <schwarz-0506982233590001@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de>
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Mario Illgen wrote:
> schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) wrote:
> >wieso kompilierst Du nicht a2ps?
> >
> cc -o ./xa2ps a2ps.o
> /bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
> _S_ISFIFO
Tsk..kids these days..
Nimm a2ps 4.10. Vorkonfigurierter source ist bei mir via email
erhältlich.
> Und wahrscheinlich wuerde auch die auf OS kompilierte Version nicht
> mit Umlauten klarkommen... Die Sache mit dem Seitenlayout reicht fuer
> meinen Zweck.
Doch, solange der zu bearbeitende Text ISO-Latin1 ist, was mittels
recode trivial ist.
Holger
From: mmiss@aol.com (MMiss)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Neuling hat Problem mit SubProject
Message-ID: <1998060820501400.QAA08438@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 08 Jun 1998 20:50:14 GMT
Organization: AOL Bertelsmann Online GmbH & Co. KG http://www.germany.aol.com
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Wahrscheinlich ein ganz banales Problem:
Ich habe in einem Projekt ein SubProject (als FrameWork), compilieren
funktioniert auch. Bloss der Linker findet es nicht. Ich habe unter den Build
Attributes auch den Pfad auf des FrameWork innerhalb des .app Verzeichnisse
gesetzt - leider ohne Erfolg.
Was mache ich falsch ? Für einen guten Rat waere ich sehr dankbar.
Vielen Dank im vorraus,
Marcus
P.S.: Benutze Rhapsody DR1
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From: agrewe@efi-nms.de (Andreas Grewe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: matrox mysitque oder kompatibl. treiber
Date: 9 Jun 1998 07:18:25 GMT
Organization: NetUSE Kommunikationstechnologie GmbH
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> ich suche einen treiber fuer die matrox mystique 4mb karte fuer
> nextstep. habe leider KEINE millenium.
> gibt es das was ???
Ja. In NeXTanswer #2536
(http://ent.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2536.htmld/2536.html)
findest Du den Matrox Treiber Version 4.10 Beta, der folgende Karten
unterstützt:
Matrox MGA Millennium
Matrox MGA Millennium II
Matrox MGA Millennium II AGP
Matrox Mystique
Matrox Mystique 220
Matrox Mystique 220 AGP
Gruß
Andreas
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Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= den Tod von
Rhapsody/x86 !
From: Johannes.Adams@gmx.net (Johannes Adams)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:33:11 +0200
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> >Ich denke halt, dass Apple hofft, mit den G3 und G4 Maschinen eine echte
> >Alternative zu Intel bieten zu koennen. Ein halbwegs vernünftiger Compaq
> >mit SCSI kostet gleich viel wie ein G3/300 (Das sind nicht nur leere
> >Worte, ich habe grade heute zwei Preislisten verglichen). Wozu SCSI?
> Intel-Hardware war und ist bis heute immer deutlich billiger als
> Apple-Hardware.
Für den PC, der hauptsächlich als heimische Spielkonsole gebraucht wird,
ist das wahr, wenn Du Dich aber mal in professionelleren Gefilden
umschaust, wirst Du merken, daß PCs in dort genau so teuer sind wie
Macs.
Johannes
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From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Subject: Re: Serviceverstaendnis
Message-ID: <1998Jun9.204028.7376@boba.rhein-main.de>
Sender: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Organization: Borris Balzer, RZ & DTP
References: <6lb8ph$1a4$2@marsu.navigator.de>
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:40:28 GMT
In article <6lb8ph$1a4$2@marsu.navigator.de> mow@navigator.de (Markus
Wenzel) writes:
> In <1998Jun4.175548.24169@boba.rhein-main.de> Borris Balzer wrote:
>
> > Hattest Du als Kunde Probleme mit Deinen Dateien bei einem
> > Belichtungsservice? Dann hattest Du das falschen Service-
> > unternehmen!
> >
> > Oder hattest Du als Belichter Probleme mit den Daten Deiner Kunden?
> > Dann ist NeXTStep, OPENSTEP und darunter laufende Software
> > sicherlich einer der Loesungsmoeglichkeiten dieser Probleme.
>
> V llig daneben, ich hab mich zu knapp ausgedr ckt. Ich wurde von
> mehreren Druckereien als Spezialist beauftragt, die Probleme zu
> l sen, die sie mit ihren Kundendaten hatten. Und da waren viele
> unter Windows und MacOS erstellte PS-Files dabei.
Mein Interesse, mich an einem "Mein-Postscript-ist-besser-als-Deines"
zu beteiligen, ist nur maessig ausgepraegt - daher moechte ich zur
Vorsicht nochmal darauf hinweisen, dass es urspruenglich um die Frage
ging, warum NeXT und Display-Postscript nicht den Graphikmarkt
"aufgerollt" hat.
Und auf die Antwort dieser Frage bietest Du einen wertvollen Hinweis.
Denn Service-Unternehmen (wie Druckereien und Belichtungsbetriebe)
haben gerade aufgrund der Maengel der Mac- und WIN-erstellten *.ps
einen Bedarf an professionellen Loesungen. Sie stell(t)en einen
erheblichen Markt fuer NeXTStep, OPENSTEP (bzw. besser: dafuer
existierende Software) dar. Und dort wurde und wird das alles ja auch
eingesetzt.
Nur ist dieser Markt deutlich kleiner, als der Gesamtmarkt des
graphischen Gewerbes. Zillionen DTP-Freaks (als Kunden dieser realtiv
wenigen Service- Betriebe) waren und sind weitaus eher an
kostenguenstigen Loesungen und (ggf. sogar klaubarer) Software
interessiert, als an den (technischen) Problemen, die diese
verursachen. Denn fuer das Loesen dieser Probleme sind die
Service-Betriebe zustaendig.
Von kostenguenstig und Loesungen fuer diesen Bereich der DTP-Cracks ist
und war NeXTStep und OPENSTEP allerdings weit entfernt. Mit Grauen
erinnere ich mich an den Zustand der ersten Jahre: Adobe-Fonts fuer
NeXT - Fehlanzeige. Konvertierungstools - Fehlanzeige (ich hab' mir die
Fonts damals aus Windows-generierten PostScripts muehsam "zu Fuss"
'rausklauben muessen). Standard-Software (Quark, PageMaker, Photoshop)
- Fehlanzeige. Und selbst der in der DTP-Welt nur _sehr_ maessig
verbreitete FrameMaker fand recht schnell sein Ende auf dieser
Plattform.
Mich wundert es nicht, dass sich dieses System - trotz seiner
technischen Ueberlegenheit und Eleganz - niemals durchsetzen konnte.
Mich hat's nur viel Geld, viel Nerven und viel Zeit gekostet. Leider.
- Borris -
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fuer den anderen die laengste Leitung der Welt!
From: kuranda@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Anke Ehlers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: wie booten?
Date: 10 Jun 1998 15:19:58 GMT
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In <6lg5hd$k9o$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Richard Woeber wrote:
> Anke Ehlers (anke@anarcoma.dialup.fu-berlin.de) wrote:
> Nimm doch LILO (Linux Loader, siehe man pages/howto's)
> Ich hatte frueher auch alle 3 OSes auf einer Platte
> hat problemlos funktioniert.
Problem ist folgendes: ich habe bisher auf der ersten Platte (ID1) den
NeXT-Bootwaehler + Minipartition und DOS, auf der zweiten (ID 2) NEXTSTEP
pur und will nun eine dritte mit Linux pur reinhaengen. Bisher laeuft sie
extern mit ID 0, so dass ich sie bei Bedarf einfach an- bzw. ausschalte. Wenn
ich Lilo auf der Linuxplatte sage, er soll via NEXT-Bootwaehler booten, will
er Infos zum Loader (weiss jemand was?), wenn ich versuche, mit Lilo gleich
NEXTSTEP von der NeXT-Platte zu booten, kann er die FAT nicht lesen, da ich
fuer die Platte nicht fdisk benutzt habe. cfdisk von Linux behauptet, da
gaebe es uberhaupt keine Partition. Falls jemand also noch Tips zum Loesen
diese Problem hat ,...
Anke
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: wie booten?
Date: 10 Jun 1998 16:06:04 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
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Anke Ehlers (kuranda@zedat.fu-berlin.de) wrote:
: Problem ist folgendes: ich habe bisher auf der ersten Platte (ID1) den
: NeXT-Bootwaehler + Minipartition und DOS, auf der zweiten (ID 2) NEXTSTEP
: pur und will nun eine dritte mit Linux pur reinhaengen. Bisher laeuft sie
: extern mit ID 0, so dass ich sie bei Bedarf einfach an- bzw. ausschalte. Wenn
: ich Lilo auf der Linuxplatte sage, er soll via NEXT-Bootwaehler booten, will
: er Infos zum Loader (weiss jemand was?), wenn ich versuche, mit Lilo gleich
: NEXTSTEP von der NeXT-Platte zu booten, kann er die FAT nicht lesen, da ich
: fuer die Platte nicht fdisk benutzt habe. cfdisk von Linux behauptet, da
: gaebe es uberhaupt keine Partition. Falls jemand also noch Tips zum Loesen
: diese Problem hat ,...
cfdisk hat recht, es gibt im DOS-Sinne keine Partition, da kein offizieller
MBR etc. vorhanden ist. Aber was passiert denn, wenn man einfach den 'ersten
Sektor' der Platte (entspricht MBR) ausfuehren laesst? Waere es FDISK parti-
tioniert, wuerde dann der Bootwaehler kommen (sonst nicht!), so sollte
NS nur starten.
Achtung: Die Instance0.table und ggf. auch Default.table in /private/Drivers/
i386/System.config muessen an die Situation angepasst sein, dass NS nicht
von der ersten Platte bootet und auch /etc/fstab sollte dies reflektieren
(also nicht '/' = '/dev/sd0a' oder so).
Gruss,
Ruediger
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From: armins@hrz1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (Armin Schmidt)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NeXTStep CD 3.3 auch fuer Intel's ?
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:16:40 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <357eca3d.2622969@news.tu-darmstadt.de>
Hallo zusammen,
vor mir liegt einen NeXTStep 3.3 CD mit Diskette, das ganze hat den
Aufdruck "fuer original NeXT Computers", die CD hat zusaetzlich den
Aufdruck"...and for Intel processors".
Leider kann ich die CD dennoch nicht (aufm PC, unter Windooze) lesen -
warum?
Kann ich mit dieser CD jetzt NeXT aufm PC installieren oder muss es
eine neue CD sein?
(Klar ist, dass man fuer dieses Vorhaben dann auch noch die
Disk-images braucht, vom NeXT Answer Server)
Bin um jede Antwort dankbar,
Armin
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From: no.spam@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede)
Subject: Re: UUCP-Konfiguration
Message-ID: <no.spam-1006982201470001@topera.camelot.de>
Sender: news@burrow.camelot.de
Organization: moles unLTD
References: <6lg0i1$nou$1@queens.netuse.de>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:01:47 GMT
Mail-Copies-To: always
In article <6lg0i1$nou$1@queens.netuse.de>, k@123.org (Kai Voigt) wrote:
> Wer kann mir bitte sein /etc/uucp/ einpacken und zuschicken bzw.
> hier posten?
Hier *posten*? Ich bin doch nicht MediaMarkt. Aber paar nützliche Hinweise
kann ich geben.
> Welche Änderungen sind am sendmail vorzunehmen, daß
> er jede Mail ins UUCP-System pumpt? Reicht es, den Relay-Mailer
> auf UUCP zu stellen und den Relay-Host auf den Nachbar-UUCP-Node
> zu stellen, oder ist noch etwas an der Adressierungssyntax
> zu drehen?
Es gibt ein Taylor UUCP-Paket, das sich ziemlich einfach über das
Standard-NS 3.3 Setup rüberbügeln läßt (nimmt auch Änderungen am
Standard-sendmail (also an dem sendmail, wie es mit NS 3.3 kommt (uralt))
vor). Quelle: http://peanuts.leo.org/ (dann nach Taylor UUCP als NeGen
Distribution suchen).
> Einige Fragen noch zur eingebauten Mailapplikation: Da es sicherlich
> keine MIME-Mails verschicken oder lesen kann, habe ich mit irgendwelchen
> Kompatibilitätsproblemen zu rechnen, oder gibt es gar eine alternative
> Software?
Mail.app kann MIME (hat aber z. B. die Macke, daß in quoted printable
codierung Absätze nur 'soft' umgebrochen werden - es gubt MUAs die damit
Probleme haben). Als Zusatz zu Mail.app sei EnhanceMail empfohlen (gibt's
auch bei Peanuts).
> Falls es von Hilfe ist: Ich besitze ein Zyxel-Modem 1496E.
Das ist evtl. höchstens bei der Feinkonfigrierung von UUCP wichtig. Läuft
ppp schon? Soll UUCP via TCP gefahren werden.
Zusammenfassung: die NeGen Distribution macht es einem leicht. Mit einem
neueren sendmail muß man sich schon intensiver mit der Angelegenheit
auseinandersetzen.
Viel Erfolg!
Markus Gloede
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From: Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: wie booten?
Date: 10 Jun 1998 20:48:40 +0200
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
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kuranda@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Anke Ehlers) writes:
> In <6lg5hd$k9o$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Richard Woeber wrote:
> > Anke Ehlers (anke@anarcoma.dialup.fu-berlin.de) wrote:
>
> > Nimm doch LILO (Linux Loader, siehe man pages/howto's)
[...]
> Problem ist folgendes: ich habe bisher auf der ersten Platte (ID1) den
> NeXT-Bootwaehler + Minipartition und DOS, auf der zweiten (ID 2) NEXTSTEP
> pur und will nun eine dritte mit Linux pur reinhaengen. Bisher laeuft sie
> extern mit ID 0, so dass ich sie bei Bedarf einfach an- bzw. ausschalte. Wenn
> ich Lilo auf der Linuxplatte sage, er soll via NEXT-Bootwaehler booten, will
> er Infos zum Loader (weiss jemand was?), wenn ich versuche, mit Lilo gleich
> NEXTSTEP von der NeXT-Platte zu booten, kann er die FAT nicht lesen, da ich
> fuer die Platte nicht fdisk benutzt habe. cfdisk von Linux behauptet, da
> gaebe es uberhaupt keine Partition. Falls jemand also noch Tips zum Loesen
> diese Problem hat ,...
>
> Anke
Bei einem IDE-Rechner mit NS auf einer Platte am zweiten Controller
hat mal folgendes geklappt (lilo.conf Zusatz):
other = /dev/hdc
label = NEXTSTEP
alias = ns
loader = /boot/any_d.b
Das heisst: MBR von /dev/hdc laden. Dort befindet sich boot0 (DOS oder
NS Prompt) oder besser noch boot1 (Prompt mit NS Bootoptionen (bootn
ohne Gewaehr)). Weil der aber fest erwartet, von C: ausgefuehrt zu
werden (und sonst scheitert), vertauscht der Lilo any_d die BIOS
Eintraege von C: und D: vor dem Laden.
Bei mir kam hier dann der NS boot: Prompt, dem gesagt werden musste,
er solle von C: starten (Vertauschung!), aber mit dem Root Filesystem
auf hd2 (fuer den Kernel gilt die Vertauschung nicht mehr). Also etwa
`hd(0)mach_kernel rootdev=hd2'.
Diese Bootparameter liessen sich dann im Default.config eintragen, so
dass das Ganze automatisch durchbooten konnte.
So weit, so gut.
_Nur_, wie die Zuordnung von drei SCSI Platten auf die BIOS Laufwerke
genau aussieht, ist mir im Moment unklar (die Booter/Loader muessen
ueber das BIOS auf die Platten zugreifen, erst der Kernel kann dann
allgemein).
Wenn also Deine Linux- (ID0) und DOS- (ID1) Platten
Fdisk-partitioniert sind und im BIOS deshalb zugaenglich sind, koennte
folgendes klappen:
other = /dev/sdb # <-- Linux Syntax
label = NEXTSTEP
alias = ns
loader = /boot/any_d.b
Dann muesste Dein NS DOS/NS Prompt kommen, und nach `n' vielleicht
sogar der NS `boot:' Prompt.
Hier `sd()mach_kernel rootdev=sd2' (<-- NeXT Syntax ;-)
fuehrt aber selbst im besten Falle vorlaeufig nur zu einem Fehler
(cannot mount root o.ae.?), weil in /etc/fstab die Platte ja noch
faelschlicherweise unter sd1 statt jetzt sd2 laeuft...
Also im single-user Modus booten (s.o.), fstab korrigieren, evt. Boot
Optionen in Default.config eintragen...
Schoener waere es natuerlich, direkt von sdc bzw. sd2 zu laden, aber
das wuerde wohl einen Lilo any_e erfordern(?).
Gibt es hier DOS/BIOS Experten fuer das BIOS Mapping von SCSI Platten
mit diversen DOS/nicht-DOS Partitionierungsschemata?
Manche nehmen wegen der erwaehnten Umstaende uebrigens eine Bootfloppy
mit Kernelparametern, um NS von nichttrivialen Platten/Partitionen zu
starten.
Viel Vergnuegen...
Timm
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: TeXView.app fuer OS4.2??
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:44:42 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
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Hallo,
bei OS4.2 ist ja wohl eine TeX Distribution mehr dabei (oder hab ich da was
uebersehen?). Nun habe ich das TexView.app von NS3.3Intel verwendet. Das
geht auch weitgehend gut, nur manchmal haengt es sich auf oder bringt
Bilder voellig falsch (z.B. auf dem Kopf stehend!).
Passiert das nur mir oder anderen auch?
Woran liegt das?
Gibt es irgendwo ein Texview.app fuer OS4.2?
Oder die source zum compilieren ...
Servus,
Helmut
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTStep CD 3.3 auch fuer Intel's ?
Date: 10 Jun 1998 22:23:54 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
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armins@hrz1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (Armin Schmidt) wrote:
> vor mir liegt einen NeXTStep 3.3 CD mit Diskette, das ganze hat den
> Aufdruck "fuer original NeXT Computers", die CD hat zusaetzlich den
> Aufdruck"...and for Intel processors".
>
> Leider kann ich die CD dennoch nicht (aufm PC, unter Windooze) lesen -
> warum?
Weil die CD mit dem NEXTSTEP-Dateisystem formatiert ist, daß Windoofs nicht
lesen kann.
> Kann ich mit dieser CD jetzt NeXT aufm PC installieren oder muss es
> eine neue CD sein?
Genau die, die Du hast, ist richtig.
Tschau
Uli
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From: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Digitale Kameras und NeXT
Date: 11 Jun 1998 16:55:07 GMT
Organization: Oldenburger Informations-Systeme, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6lp25b$5np@hazel.north.de>
Welche digitale Kamera funktioniert mit meinem NeXT?
Die Sony Mavica speichert im jpg Format auf Disketten, hat aber relativ
wenige Pixel (640 x 480 oder so) und ist dafuer recht teuer.
Welche anderes Kamera hat also einen seriellen Ausgang und ein
Treiberprogramm im Sourcecode oder eine vollstaendige Dokumentation?
Irgendjemand wird doch sicher schon mit dem NeXT photographieren!
Gruss
Gerriet.
From: nospam@nexusgate.oche.de (Michael Pieper, yes, this is a valid address)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: UUCP-Konfiguration
Date: 11 Jun 1998 20:23:58 GMT
Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany
Message-ID: <6lpecu$6h$1@nexusgate.oche.de>
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k@123.org (Kai Voigt) wrote:
>als frischer Besitzer einer Nextstation unter NS 3.3 plane ich,
>dem Rechner UUCP beizubringen, um daheim wenigstens Email nutzen
>zu können.
>
>Wer kann mir bitte sein /etc/uucp/ einpacken und zuschicken bzw.
>hier posten? Welche Änderungen sind am sendmail vorzunehmen, daß
>er jede Mail ins UUCP-System pumpt? Reicht es, den Relay-Mailer
>auf UUCP zu stellen und den Relay-Host auf den Nachbar-UUCP-Node
>zu stellen, oder ist noch etwas an der Adressierungssyntax
>zu drehen?
Installier Dir Taylor UUCP, das NeXT UUCP kann leider nur g Protokoll mit
64/7, was die Uebertragung extrem ausbremst. Zu Sendmail kann ich nix sagen,
ich habe das direkt durch smail ersetzt ;-) Wenn Du wirklich sendmail
willst, hole Dir eine aktuelle Version von peanuts.leo.org.
>Einige Fragen noch zur eingebauten Mailapplikation: Da es sicherlich
>keine MIME-Mails verschicken oder lesen kann, habe ich mit irgendwelchen
>Kompatibilitätsproblemen zu rechnen, oder gibt es gar eine alternative
>Software?
Mail.app aus NS 3.3 hat keine Probleme mit MIME.
Michael
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: WebObjects-Stundensaetze (war: Re: NeXTStep CD 3.3)
Date: 12 Jun 1998 10:28:35 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6lqvsj$aej$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <357eca3d.2622969@news.tu-darmstadt.de> <6ln11q$am8$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <6lofcr$ch1$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <1998Jun11.191359.736@gamelan.okay.net>
thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) wrote:
>In <6lofcr$ch1$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
>> PS: Gibt es da draussen irgendjemand, der fuer 50 Mark die Stunde
>> WebObjects programmiert, oder findet ihr die Vorstellung genauso
>> laecherlich wie ich?
>
> So "viel" habe ich zuletzt vor 15 Jahren verdient. Waren noch
> schoene Zeiten, Fortran 5 auf BS2000. Kompilieren dauerte c.a
> 30 Minuten jedes Mal, da hatte man noch viel Zeit nebenher.
Ich erinnere mich an mein erstes UNIX System, hiess "Munix" (wir
wollten es manchmal in "TuNix" umbenennen) auf einem PCS Cadmus
Rechner, made in Germany. Der war richtig schnell, denn er hatte
schon einen 68020 Prozessor! Trotzdem dauerte ein kompletter
Compilelauf meines Projektes auch knappe 30 Minuten, viel Zeit
fuer eine Kaffeepause und ein Schwaetzchen mit den Kollegen.
War irgendwie alles etwas ruhiger damals..
Aber noch mal zu WebObjects - wenn man einen Blick in die c't #11
wirft, kann man dort nachlesen, dass ein indivuell erstellter
Webstore zwischen 50 und 1000 K kostet. Da solte man doch vermuten,
dass die Stundensaetze von entsprechend erfahrenen WO-Programmierern
entsprechend hoeher sind, was sich auch mit meinen Erfahrungen deckt.
Gruesse, Chris
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:55:49 +0200
Organization: EUnet Yugoslavia
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>
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>
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Digitale Kameras und NeXT
Date: 12 Jun 1998 14:11:07 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
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In <6lp25b$5np@hazel.north.de> Gerriet M. Denkmann wrote:
> Welche digitale Kamera funktioniert mit meinem NeXT?
> Die Sony Mavica speichert im jpg Format auf Disketten, hat aber relativ
> wenige Pixel (640 x 480 oder so) und ist dafuer recht teuer.
>
> Welche anderes Kamera hat also einen seriellen Ausgang und ein
> Treiberprogramm im Sourcecode oder eine vollstaendige Dokumentation?
>
> Irgendjemand wird doch sicher schon mit dem NeXT photographieren!
Meine Casio QV-100 laeuft, (qvlib von Linux, etwas massiert damit es unter NS
laueft) allerdings nur mit Adaptor (da der Seriell-Treiber nicht in der Lage
ist das Signal hochzuhalten). Allerdings ist die Qualitaet aehnlich
bescheiden wie bei der Sony.
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: de.comm.infosystems.www.browsers,de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.bsd,de.comp.os.unix
Subject: Lynx2.8 auf Ultrix, NeXT nicht 8bit clean
Date: 12 Jun 1998 14:43:30 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Originator: schwarz@poseidon.physik.tu-berlin.de
Ich habe gerade Lynx 2.8 rel2 auf mehreren Systemen kompiliert. Auf
NEXTSTEP 3.3 und Ultrix 4.3 tritt das Problem auf, daß lynx das 8. Bit bei
ISO-8859-1-Zeichen beim Darstellen abschneidet. Die Shell ist zumindest im
Fall von Ultrix 8bit clean (bei NeXT scheint bin ich mir da nicht so
sicher; zumindest Eingaben innerhalb der csh werden gestrippt, obgleich
stty pass8 ausgibt).
Außerdem stellt lynx 2.8 auf diesen beiden Systemen (auch nicht
angewählte) Links invers dar, was es auf anderen Systemen (z.B. IRIX,
Solaris) nicht tun. Ich nehme mal an, daß es sich hier um ein Problem mit
alten BSD-Systemen handelt. Bei Lynx 2-7-2 und davor war es auf Ultrix
(NeXT hatte ich nicht ausprobiert) nicht der Fall gewesen. Ggfs. spielt
wohl auch der Locale-Mechanismus eine Rolle? Ich habe auf beiden Systemen
configure ohne irgendwelche Optionen durchlaufen lassen. Woran könnte es
liegen, und wie behebe ich das Problem?
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Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
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From: Guido.Beneke@desy.de (Guido Beneke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: TeXView.app fuer OS4.2??
Date: 12 Jun 1998 20:10:00 GMT
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron (DESY)
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heller@altoetting-online.de wrote:
>bei OS4.2 ist ja wohl eine TeX Distribution mehr dabei (oder hab ich da was
>uebersehen?). Nun habe ich das TexView.app von NS3.3Intel verwendet. Das
>geht auch weitgehend gut, nur manchmal haengt es sich auf oder bringt
>Bilder voellig falsch (z.B. auf dem Kopf stehend!).
>
>Passiert das nur mir oder anderen auch?
>Woran liegt das?
>Gibt es irgendwo ein Texview.app fuer OS4.2?
>Oder die source zum compilieren ...
Soweit ich das beurteilen kann, sind die neueren TeXView-Versionen im
wesentlichen identisch mit der offiziellen 3.3-Version was den Code fürs
Previewen angeht. Dvips, der fürs Drucken werwendet wird, kann man ja leicht
updaten, aber die Teile der dvips-Distribution, die ins TeXView.app eingebaut
wurde, um den Preview zu erstellen, sind recht alt und eben auch buggy. Ich
verwende gerade massiv MetaPost Figuren mit TeX-Fonts. Dabei hilft nur, die
Graphiken über die Preferences auszuschalten, sonst schmiert TeXView
regelmässig ab.
Gruß, G. Beneke
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: UUCP-Konfiguration
Date: 12 Jun 1998 05:45:35 GMT
Organization: Navigator
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In <6lpecu$6h$1@nexusgate.oche.de> Michael Pieper, yes, this is a valid
address wrote:
> Mail.app aus NS 3.3 hat keine Probleme mit MIME.
Außer, das es manchmal elend lange braucht, um eine MIME-Mail anzuzeigen,
manchmal noch dabei abstürzt, manchmal Mails mit seltsam wirren Zeichenketten
einleitet und es außerdem keinen Zeilenvorschub konform zu den
verbreitetsten Mailer auf anderen Plattformen kennt. Aber sonst macht es
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTStep CD 3.3 auch fuer Intel's ?
Date: 12 Jun 1998 05:48:41 GMT
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References: <357eca3d.2622969@news.tu-darmstadt.de> <6ln11q$am8$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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In <6lofcr$ch1$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> PS: Gibt es da draussen irgendjemand, der fuer 50 Mark die Stunde
> WebObjects programmiert, oder findet ihr die Vorstellung genauso
> laecherlich wie ich?
Das ist ja wohl ein schlechter Scherz. Das Dreifache wäre OK.
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: [Good old times...] war: WebObjects-Stundensaetze
Date: 13 Jun 1998 13:40:42 GMT
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In <6lqvsj$aej$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> Ich erinnere mich an mein erstes UNIX System, hiess "Munix" (wir
> wollten es manchmal in "TuNix" umbenennen) auf einem PCS Cadmus
> Rechner, made in Germany. Der war richtig schnell, denn er hatte
> schon einen 68020 Prozessor! Trotzdem dauerte ein kompletter
> Compilelauf meines Projektes auch knappe 30 Minuten, viel Zeit
> fuer eine Kaffeepause und ein Schwaetzchen mit den Kollegen.
> War irgendwie alles etwas ruhiger damals..
Jaa, an sowas [Cadmus, VT220 DEC Terminal] habe ich auch waehrend meiner
Hochschulzeit gehockt. Ich erinnere mich noch an die Zeiten... Oder KI
Programmierung (Lisp, ART) auf einer Sun 3/60 mit hoellenmaessigen 24 MByte
RAM... wenn das Teil Garbage Collected hat stand es fuer 15 Minuten....
Damals habe ich mir die Kaffeesucht angewoehnt *eg*
Die ganzen Visuellen Programmiersklaven von heute koennen das natuerlich
nicht wuerdigen... :-)
"Hey, I know you... that beard, that hairstyle.. you are one of these
arrogant UNIX programmers"
"Have a nickel, kid... and buy a real computer..."
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From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: inn-2.0
Date: 13 Jun 1998 16:08:21 GMT
Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany
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Hi,
hat schon jemand erfolgreich den INN-2.0 auf OPENSTEP 4.2/Mach uebersetzen
koennen?
Tschau...
Juergen
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PSCAT geht nicht mehr
Date: 13 Jun 1998 17:05:26 GMT
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In <6lgtvh$59@factum.factum-gmbh.de> Ralf E. Stranzenbach wrote:
> ich habe ein merkwuerdiges Problem mit meiner NeXTSTEP3.3(Intel). Auf
dieser
> Maschine tut es der PSCAT nicht mehr. Das schmerzt mich besonders, da
dieses
> Programm ja auch von PTROFF zum paginieren der Ausgabe genutzt wird.
>
> eomer.factum-gmbh.de> ptroff -sA4 -man -t CGI.3
> pscat: trouble reading .ct file
> eomer.factum-gmbh.de>
>
> Was ist hier wohl falsch. Eine andere, auch unter NS3.3(m68k) laufende,
> Maschine funktioniert klaglos.
man pscatmap ist dein Freund...
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From: Heiner_Wolfram@magicvillage.de (Heiner Wolfram)
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:54:17 +0200
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Hallo,
kann mir jemand sagen welche 3D-Softwares
es für Nextstep gibt und ob ein VRML-Browser existiert?
Heiner
From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber)
Newsgroups: de.comm.infosystems.www.browsers,de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.bsd,de.comp.os.unix
Subject: Re: Lynx2.8 auf Ultrix, NeXT nicht 8bit clean
Date: 14 Jun 1998 02:35:05 +0200
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In article <6lreqi$8po$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>, Georg Schwarz
<schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Ich habe gerade Lynx 2.8 rel2 auf mehreren Systemen kompiliert. Auf
> NEXTSTEP 3.3 und Ultrix 4.3 tritt das Problem auf, daß lynx das 8. Bit bei
> ISO-8859-1-Zeichen beim Darstellen abschneidet. [...]
> Außerdem stellt lynx 2.8 auf diesen beiden Systemen (auch nicht
> angewählte) Links invers dar, was es auf anderen Systemen (z.B. IRIX,
> Solaris) nicht tun.
BSD curses.
Die konnten nur ein Text-Attribut handhaben, standout (i.a. revers), und
haben für dieses das achte Bit als Flag verwendet.
> Bei Lynx 2-7-2 und davor war es auf Ultrix > (NeXT hatte ich nicht
> ausprobiert) nicht der Fall gewesen.
Hmm. Ich kenne Ultrix nicht weiter, möglicherweise hat das noch einen
Satz SysV-Curses rumliegen, den configure nicht findet. Mal schauen,
irgendwo müßte ich noch ein 2.7.2 haben, wo noch hartcodierte Targets im
Makefile waren... Ja, genau das scheint der Fall zu sein:
| ultrix:
| cd WWW/Library/decstation; $(MAKE) LYFLAGS="$(SITE_LYDEFS)"
| cd src; $(MAKE) all CC="cc" MCFLAGS="-O -Olimit 600 -DFANCY_CURSES \
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| -DUNIX -DULTRIX -I../$(WWWINC) $(SITE_DEFS)" \
| LIBS="-lcursesX -ltermcap \
^^^^^^^^^
| $(WAISLIB) $(SOCKSLIB) $(SITE_LIBS)" \
| WWWLIB="../WWW/Library/decstation/libwww.a"
Makefile manuell anpassen, und dann müßte das klappen.
Bei Nextstep gibt es anscheinend nur BSD curses. Da hilft dann nur
ncurses zu installieren und lynx damit zu bauen.
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From: ergo@camelot.in-berlin.de (Olaf Foellinger)
Subject: Re: PS-Dateien mit EPS-Icon?
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In <6lpqkp$gb$2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ich habe ein merkwürdiges Problem mit einer *neuen* NEXTSTEP 3.3-Installation
> (gerade frisch auf die HD gespielt):
>
> PS- und EPS-Dateien werden vom Workspace Manager zwar insoweit korrekt
> erkannt, als ihnen im Werkzeug-Inspektor unterschiedliche Default-Apps
> zugeordnet werden können, aber als Icon wird *stets* das EPS-Icon angezeigt.
>
> Hat jemand 'ne Idee, woran *das* liegen kann??
Das nicht, aber es scheint nichts ps-spezifisches zu sein: Bei mir werden auch
Movie-Dateien mit dem Movie.app-Icon angezeigt statt mit dem NextTime-Icon,
obwohl NextTime die voreingestellte Applikation ist.
Gruß Olaf
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From: Alexander Rockel <aro@rocco.hh.provi.de>
Subject: V: Next Color Station 600,--
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Hallo,
ich moechte mich von einer meiner beiden
Next-Workstations trennen:
* Original Next Color-Station
* NP ca. DM 15.000,- 8-)
* 17" Next-Farbmonitor
* Soundbox
* Keyboard, Mouse
* OS Nextstep 3.3
* 32 MB RAM
* 200 MB FP (austauschbar durch beliebige 3,5" SCSI-FP)
* Originalverpackung vorhanden
* Diskettenlaufwerk leider defekt (mechanischer Fehler,
kann evtl durch Bastler behoben werden)
* ansonsten voll funktionsfähig.
DM 600,--
an Selbstabholer (Hamburg)
MfG,
Alexander
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: [Good old times...] war: WebObjects-Stundensaetze
Date: 14 Jun 1998 12:43:44 GMT
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frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote:
>In <6lqvsj$aej$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
>> Ich erinnere mich an mein erstes UNIX System, hiess "Munix" (wir
>> wollten es manchmal in "TuNix" umbenennen) auf einem PCS Cadmus
>> Rechner, made in Germany. Der war richtig schnell, denn er hatte
>> schon einen 68020 Prozessor! Trotzdem dauerte ein kompletter
>> Compilelauf meines Projektes auch knappe 30 Minuten, viel Zeit
>> fuer eine Kaffeepause und ein Schwaetzchen mit den Kollegen.
>> War irgendwie alles etwas ruhiger damals..
>
>Jaa, an sowas [Cadmus, VT220 DEC Terminal] habe ich auch waehrend meiner
>Hochschulzeit gehockt. Ich erinnere mich noch an die Zeiten... Oder KI
>Programmierung (Lisp, ART) auf einer Sun 3/60 mit hoellenmaessigen 24 MByte
>RAM... wenn das Teil Garbage Collected hat stand es fuer 15 Minuten....
>Damals habe ich mir die Kaffeesucht angewoehnt *eg*
<grins> ich erinnere mich.. am Anfang haben wir gedacht, der Interpreter
sei abgestuerzt :-) da stand nur 'Collecting Garbage', und es passierte
einfach nichts mehr... und die Affinitaet von Programmierern zu Kaffee
hat sicher auch etwas mit diesen Zwangspausen zu tun - die, wie gesagt,
ja auch den Vorteil hatten, dass man mit Freunden kloenen konnte.
>Die ganzen Visuellen Programmiersklaven von heute koennen das natuerlich
>nicht wuerdigen... :-)
Hm, mal ganz im Ernst.. ich denke, dass mit der Kommandozeile eine
bestimmte Denkrichtung, eine bestimmte Loesungsphilosophie stuerbe.
Natuerlich ist nicht alles ein Strom aus Bytes, aber manche Dinge
kann man mit Filtern nun mal sehr elegant loesen. Die UNIX-Folklore
berichtet, das in irgendeinem Programmiermagazin ein langer Artikel
von (ich glaube) Knuth war, der an einem Beispielprogramm zeigte,
wie man eine Routine schreibt die einen Text in Worte zerlegt, diese
zaehlt, und die zehn haeufigsten ausgibt. In der naechsten Ausgabe
war dann ein Leserbrief, das sei ja alles sehr schoen, aber was man
denn an
"cat datei | tr -cs A-Za-z '\012' | sort -u | head -10"
(oder etwas in der Art) auszusetzen haette... <g>
>"Hey, I know you... that beard, that hairstyle.. you are one of these
>arrogant UNIX programmers"
>"Have a nickel, kid... and buy a real computer..."
"Hey, das ist ein uhnicks system, das kenne ich aus der Schule.."
>* Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank
>* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard
>* "The answer is vi, what was your question...?"
Yip. Emacs ist fuer Wheenies.
Rgds, Chris
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: de.comm.infosystems.www.browsers,de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.bsd,de.comp.os.unix
Subject: Re: Lynx2.8 auf Ultrix, NeXT nicht 8bit clean
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 15:19:04 +0200
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Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de> wrote:
> BSD curses.
> Die konnten nur ein Text-Attribut handhaben, standout (i.a. revers), und
> haben für dieses das achte Bit als Flag verwendet.
ist das bei BSD 4.4 immer noch so?
> Hmm. Ich kenne Ultrix nicht weiter, möglicherweise hat das noch einen
> Satz SysV-Curses rumliegen, den configure nicht findet. Mal schauen,
> irgendwo müßte ich noch ein 2.7.2 haben, wo noch hartcodierte Targets im
> Makefile waren... Ja, genau das scheint der Fall zu sein:
>
> | ultrix:
> | cd WWW/Library/decstation; $(MAKE) LYFLAGS="$(SITE_LYDEFS)"
> | cd src; $(MAKE) all CC="cc" MCFLAGS="-O -Olimit 600 -DFANCY_CURSES \
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> | -DUNIX -DULTRIX -I../$(WWWINC) $(SITE_DEFS)" \
> | LIBS="-lcursesX -ltermcap \
> ^^^^^^^^^
> | $(WAISLIB) $(SOCKSLIB) $(SITE_LIBS)" \
> | WWWLIB="../WWW/Library/decstation/libwww.a"
>
> Makefile manuell anpassen, und dann müßte das klappen.
das komische ist folgendes:
itp4> grep -i fancy config.cache
cf_cv_fancy_curses=${cf_cv_fancy_curses='no'}
itp4> grep -i cursesx config.cache
ac_cv_header_cursesX_h=${ac_cv_header_cursesX_h='yes'}
cf_cv_ncurses_header=${cf_cv_ncurses_header='cursesX.h'}
und wenn ich selbst cf_cv_fancy_curses='yes' sezte (oder alternativ CC
auf "gcc -D_FANCY_CURSES" setze) und nochmal configure durchlaufen
lasse, gibt's dann beim Kompilieren Fehlermeldungen daß BOLD und
UNDERLINE nicht bekannt sind:
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -Ichrtrans -I./chrtrans -I.. -I../src
-I../WWW/Lib
rary/Implementation -O3 -DULTRIX -c ./GridText.c
./GridText.c: In function `display_line':
./GridText.c:770: `A_UNDERLINE' undeclared (first use this function)
./GridText.c:770: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
./GridText.c:770: for each function it appears in.)
./GridText.c:784: `A_BOLD' undeclared (first use this function)
da fehlt wohl ein passendes Headerfile. Aber welches? cursesX.h?
(ein paar Studen später - ein 25 MHz R3000 ist schließlich kein
Rennpferd...)
OK, ich hab's jetzt hinbekommen. Ich habe manuell -DHAVE_CURSESX_H und
-DFANCY_CURSES gesetzt (der Einfachheit halber in CC) und in makefile
und src/makefile -lcurses durch -lcursesX ersetzt. Damit scheint's nun
zu funktionieren.
Das ist wohl eine Bug (oder sagen wir vorsichtig: eine Schwäche) im
Konfigurationsverfahren von Lynx 2.8. Sollte ich das irgend jemandem von
den Entwicklern mitteilen?
>
> Bei Nextstep gibt es anscheinend nur BSD curses. Da hilft dann nur
> ncurses zu installieren und lynx damit zu bauen.
:-( (Aufwand)
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From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
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Subject: Re: [Good old times...] war: WebObjects-Stundensaetze
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
> Die UNIX-Folklore
> berichtet, das in irgendeinem Programmiermagazin ein langer Artikel
> von (ich glaube) Knuth war, der an einem Beispielprogramm zeigte,
> wie man eine Routine schreibt die einen Text in Worte zerlegt, diese
> zaehlt, und die zehn haeufigsten ausgibt. In der naechsten Ausgabe
> war dann ein Leserbrief, das sei ja alles sehr schoen, aber was man
> denn an
> "cat datei | tr -cs A-Za-z '\012' | sort -u | head -10"
> (oder etwas in der Art) auszusetzen haette... <g>
Jon Bentley with Special Guest Oysters Don Knuth and Doug McIlroy
"Programming Perls: A Literate Program"
Communications of the ACM June 1986, 29(6):471-483.
Die Aufgabe:
"Given a text file and an integer k, print the k most common words in
the file (and the number of their occurrences) in decreasing frequency."
Knuth verwendet einen Hash Trie, McIlroy begnuegt sich mit
tr -cs A-Za-z '\n' | tr A-Z a-z | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | sed ${1}q
Welche Loesung ist besser? Nun, das haengt wohl vom Einsatzzweck ab...
Michael
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
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Subject: Re: [Good old times...] war: WebObjects-Stundensaetze
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In <6ltvgq$9j8$2@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
>
> Jaa, an sowas [Cadmus, VT220 DEC Terminal] habe ich auch waehrend meiner
> Hochschulzeit gehockt. Ich erinnere mich noch an die Zeiten... Oder KI
> Programmierung (Lisp, ART) auf einer Sun 3/60 mit hoellenmaessigen 24 MByte
> RAM... wenn das Teil Garbage Collected hat stand es fuer 15 Minuten....
> Damals habe ich mir die Kaffeesucht angewoehnt *eg*
>
> Die ganzen Visuellen Programmiersklaven von heute koennen das natuerlich
> nicht wuerdigen... :-)
Schoen war auch eine PDP-8 mit Bandlaufwerk als einzigem Massenspeicher. Da
konnte man am hin und herspulen genau beobachten, wie weit die Uebersetzung
war. Compilerfehler endeten nach laengerer Zeit mit einem ERROR 0377.
Microsoft hat diese Technik spaeter uebernommen.
Zu meiner Schulzeit hatte ich noch das Vergnuegen, auf einer Zuse-Z-23
ALGOL60 zu machen. Der Rechner hatte einen Lautsprecher an irgendeinem
Register angeschlossen, da konnte man mit etwas Uebung seine Syntaxfehler
akustisch mithoeren. Programmiert wurde auf Lochstreifen. Damals trug man
seine Programme in einer Schachtel mit sich rum. An Sylvester konnte man die
dann zur Dekoration benutzen.
--
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Right after Microsoft Works."
(Jacek Pliszka in comp.emacs.xemacs)
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: APPLE-TECHNOLOGIETAG AN DER TU BERLIN AM DIENSTAG
Date: 15 Jun 1998 14:48:23 GMT
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Gerald Erdmann (gerald@stepman.com) wrote:
: APPLE TECHNOLOGIETAG AN DER TECHNISCHEN UNIVERSITÄT BERLIN
Dortmund (und andere Staedte) sind fuer manchen naeher :-), aber
Dank fuer die Erinnerung und vielleicht kann man am Ende ein
Resumee ziehen (inbesondere ueber OPENSTEP Nachf. und OpenStep/
Rhapsody).
Ich habe nicht vor, in diesem Punkt auf dem Technologitag
"zimperlich" zu sein, wenn ich in Apple ueberhaupt noch eine
Chance sehe.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: APPLE-TECHNOLOGIETAG AN DER TU BERLIN AM DIENSTAG
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Date: 15 Jun 1998 05:40:33 GMT
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APPLE TECHNOLOGIETAG AN DER TECHNISCHEN UNIVERSITÄT BERLIN
Am Dienstag den 16. Juni 1998 veranstaltet Apple an der Technischen Universität
Berlin
einen Technologie-Tag mit dem Ziel, Apple-Anwender und -Interessierten sowie
Entwickler im Forschung & Lehre-Umfeld gleich im Anschluß an die Worldwide
Developers Conference in Kalifornien aktuell über die neuesten
Technologie-Trends zu informieren.
Inhalte werden sein:
* Aktuelles zur Systemstrategie
MacOS zukünftige Entwicklung
Rhapsody
Yellow Box
Java
Apple Script
* Multimedia-Technologie
* Internet & WWW
AppleShare IP
WebObjects
* Hardware
PowerPC Zukunft
DVD
USB
FireWire
Veranstaltungsort:
Hauptgebäude der TU Berlin
Straße des 17. Juni 135
10623 Berlin
Raum H 2053 (2. Stock)
15:00 bis 21:00 Uhr
Wir freuen uns über jeden, der kommt.
Aktuelle Informationen finden Sie jederzeit auch im Internet unter
http://www.apple.de/education
--
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/ / +49 30 39731400 -401 (Fax)
\ __\ Berlin - Germany - Earth
From: Dominik Westner <dominik@gowest.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
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Subject: Re: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 20:31:08 +0000
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schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig) wrote:
> Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de> wrote:
>
> > Im übrigen gibt es doch allein in der Budesrepublick schon einige
Firmen
> > und Projekte, die sich der Technologie Apple/NeXT verschrieben
haben. Wie
> > wäre es mit IPS, der Object-Factory, der InIS oder einigen
anderen?
>
> Dann nenn' mal einige andere mehr. Ich kann sie nicht finden. Was
> natuerlich nicht heisst, dass es sie nicht gibt, aber das sie
ziemlich
> versteckt sind. Apple koennte ja auch so schlau sein und mit den
tollen
> Firmen werben, die schon heute mit dem Betriebssystem der Zukunft
> arbeiten...
>
> Michael
>
> --
> Michael Schuerig
> mailto:schuerig@acm.org
> http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs90z/
Probiers doch mal bei der GEFM ... die haben sicher auch einige
interessante Sachen, wenn Dich WebObjects + Java interessieren.
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From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: inn-2.0
Date: 15 Jun 1998 07:10:07 GMT
Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany
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In <6m04l3$bi$1@marsu.navigator.de> Markus Wenzel wrote:
> > hat schon jemand erfolgreich den INN-2.0 auf OPENSTEP 4.2/Mach
> > uebersetzen koennen?
>
> Ich hab zwar die ersten Hürden überwunden, dann aber doch aufgegeben.
> OPENSTEP und POSIX-Sourcen schließen sich nun mal gegenseitig aus.
So weit bin ich auch schon :-), ich hatte gehofft das jemand schon diese Hür
de überwinden konnte :-).
Tschau...
Jürgen
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From: Uli Zappe <uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
Message-ID: <358594eb.0@juno.wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Date: 15 Jun 98 21:40:59 GMT
mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) wrote:
>> hat schon jemand erfolgreich den INN-2.0 auf OPENSTEP 4.2/Mach uebersetzen
>> koennen?
>Ich hab zwar die ersten Hürden überwunden, dann aber doch aufgegeben.
>OPENSTEP und POSIX-Sourcen schließen sich nun mal gegenseitig aus.
Bei mir läuft's seit einem Monat im wesentlichen ohne Probleme.
Es sind einige Anpassungen nötig, aber wir haben uns in der
INN-Entwicklerliste dafür entschieden, nicht nur wegen NEXTSTEP etliche
zusätzliche #ifdefs einzubauen, da es für NEXTSTEP ja eh bald ein
fix&fertiges PersonalINN 2.0 geben wird. :-) Daher wurden nur einige,
möglicherweise allgemeiner nötige Anpassungen von mir aufgenommen. Für
Rhapsody ist das Ziel dann aber ein plain install.
PersonalINN 2.0 wird übrigens komplett über GUI zu installieren, zu
konfigurieren und zu warten sein. Ist alles weitgehend fertig und geht prima,
aber im Moment hängt es an NewsX, einem Programm, das slurp ersetzen wird.
NewsX muß noch an das neue dbz-Format der History-Datenbank von INN 2.0
angepaßt werden, und da sein Autor im Moment kaum Zeit hat, klemmt es an
dieser Stelle leider.
Wenn das fertig ist, sollte es bald darauf eine PersonalINN 2.0-Beta geben.
Tschau
Uli
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From: Henrik Wist <wist@ex.muffin.org>
Newsgroups: de.comm.infosystems.www.browsers,de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.bsd,de.comp.os.unix
Subject: Re: Lynx2.8 auf Ultrix, NeXT nicht 8bit clean
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Date: 15 Jun 1998 17:11:14 GMT
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Hi,
Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> OK, ich hab's jetzt hinbekommen. Ich habe manuell -DHAVE_CURSESX_H und
> -DFANCY_CURSES gesetzt (der Einfachheit halber in CC) und in makefile
> und src/makefile -lcurses durch -lcursesX ersetzt. Damit scheint's nun
> zu funktionieren.
> Das ist wohl eine Bug (oder sagen wir vorsichtig: eine Schwäche) im
> Konfigurationsverfahren von Lynx 2.8. Sollte ich das irgend jemandem von
> den Entwicklern mitteilen?
Ja, auf alle Faelle. lynx-dev@sig.net ist die Adresse, ich wuerde aber
a) evtl. vorher eine aktuelle Development-Version ausprobieren und/oder
b) im Mailinglisten-Archiv (http://www.flora.org/lynx-dev/ wenn ich mich nicht
irre, erreichbar aber auch ueber http://lynx.browser.org/) darueber
nachlesen/suchen.
Viel Erfolg, Henrik
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From: kuranda@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Anke Ehlers)
Subject: Re: wie booten?
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In <tqfzpflw0s7.fsf@lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Timm Wetzel wrote:
> Bei einem IDE-Rechner mit NS auf einer Platte am zweiten Controller
> hat mal folgendes geklappt (lilo.conf Zusatz):
> other = /dev/hdc
> label = NEXTSTEP
> alias = ns
> loader = /boot/any_d.b
Danke, wenn auch etwas verspaetet! Damit habe ich zumindest das erste
Probblem (NeXT-Loader erkennen) geloest.
> Dann muesste Dein NS DOS/NS Prompt kommen, und nach `n' vielleicht
> sogar der NS `boot:' Prompt.
> Hier `sd()mach_kernel rootdev=sd2' (<-- NeXT Syntax ;-)
> fuehrt aber selbst im besten Falle vorlaeufig nur zu einem Fehler
> (cannot mount root o.ae.?), weil in /etc/fstab die Platte ja noch
> faelschlicherweise unter sd1 statt jetzt sd2 laeuft...
> Also im single-user Modus booten (s.o.), fstab korrigieren, evt. Boot
> Optionen in Default.config eintragen...
Leider habe ich mit den Bootblocks meinr DOS/NeXT-Paltte Probelme (bad
block), aber diese sollten sich mit einer neuen Platte die demnaechst
ansteht, eh in nix auflösen.
> Schoener waere es natuerlich, direkt von sdc bzw. sd2 zu laden, aber
> das wuerde wohl einen Lilo any_e erfordern(?).
Vielleicht kennt ja jemensch doch noch den Syntax dafuer?
anke
From: Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: AfterStep
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 09:19:07 +0100
Organization: Voss Net Communications GmbH
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Moin!
Hat jemand sich mal unter Linux "Afterstep" angesehen?
Gibt es vergleichbares auch fuer Windoof NT/95 ?
Ich muss auffe Arbeit unner Windoof arbeiten und moechte aber gerne das
"Look&Feel" von NEXTSTEP haben....
---
Joerg Sievers
22143 Hamburg
From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Q: Welche HDs laufen mit schwarzen Kisten?
Date: 16 Jun 1998 09:17:57 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
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Hi Leute,
ich habe zwei schwarze NeXT-Station s, bei denen
die Festplatten kaputt sind.
Gibt es noch Platten auf dem Markt, bei denen das
Installationsprogramm von NS 3.3 durchlaeuft ohne
dass man die Platten woanders einbauen und Formatieren/
Partitionieren muss?
Danke,
Ciao
Martin
From: Holger Uhr <huhr@uni-paderborn.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: [Good old times...] war: WebObjects-Stundensaetze
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:58:48 +0200
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Michael Schuerig wrote:
> =
> Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
> =
> > Die UNIX-Folklore
> > berichtet, das in irgendeinem Programmiermagazin ein langer Artikel
> > von (ich glaube) Knuth war, der an einem Beispielprogramm zeigte,
> > wie man eine Routine schreibt die einen Text in Worte zerlegt, diese
> > zaehlt, und die zehn haeufigsten ausgibt. In der naechsten Ausgabe
> > war dann ein Leserbrief, das sei ja alles sehr schoen, aber was man
> > denn an
> > "cat datei | tr -cs A-Za-z '\012' | sort -u | head -10"
> > (oder etwas in der Art) auszusetzen haette... <g>
> =
> Jon Bentley with Special Guest Oysters Don Knuth and Doug McIlroy
> "Programming Perls: A Literate Program"
> Communications of the ACM June 1986, 29(6):471-483.
> =
Da Knuth das Problem mit Hilfe von Web (oder CWeb?) gel=F6st hat, steht
der Artikel auch in
Knuth, Donald E.:
Literate programming / Donald E. Knuth [Stanford, Calif.] : CSLI, 1992.
- XV, 368 S. (CSLI lecture notes ; 27)
ISBN 0-937073-80-6 ISBN 0-937073-81-4 =
Gru=DF,
Holger
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From: "Joerg Spix" <Joerg.Spix@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Welche HDs laufen mit schwarzen Kisten?
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:55:26 +0200
Organization: C. v. Ossietzky Universitaet Oldenburg - Fachbereich Informatik
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Martin Oettle <martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de> wrote:
> Hi Leute,
>
> ich habe zwei schwarze NeXT-Station s, bei denen
> die Festplatten kaputt sind.
> Gibt es noch Platten auf dem Markt, bei denen das
> Installationsprogramm von NS 3.3 durchlaeuft ohne
> dass man die Platten woanders einbauen und Formatieren/
> Partitionieren muss?
Alle 5400 UpM-Platten mit weniger als 2 GB sind total unproblematisch.
Bis 14 GB werden dann jeweils gleich grosse Partitionen angelegt, die Du
in der mounttab (oder war es mnttab?) eintragen musst. Ich habe
allerdings mein System erst einmal auf eine 130 MB Platte installiert
und dann beide zusammen drangehaengt (4,3 GB DCAS, beide am
Station-Strom) und dann manuell partitioniert. War aber recht laestig,
da ich ziemliche Probleme mit disktab und deren Erkennung hatte.
Es geht aber auch ohne den Aufwand, wenn Du keinen besonderen
Ansprueche an die Partotionsgroesse (zw. 1 und 2 GB) stellst.
Joerg
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From: pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler)
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Subject: Re: AfterStep
Date: 16 Jun 1998 19:48:07 GMT
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Joerg Sievers <jogi2@vossnet.de> wrote:
>Ich muss auffe Arbeit unner Windoof arbeiten und moechte aber gerne das
>"Look&Feel" von NEXTSTEP haben....
Ich glaube solche Systempatches gibt es nicht. Aber mit einigen OPENSTEP
Applikationen wird es zumindestens erträglicher unter NT. Installier Dir
OPENSTEP/NT für TextEdit, Shell und Preview, benutze PopOver2 für eMail,
NeXbar als Dock, NeXplorer zum Filebrowsen (www.eidolonsoftware.com), oder
RBrowser zum Filebrowsen (www.ddrummer.com), OmniImage, OmniPDF, OmniWeb
(ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/Windows-OPENSTEP) und natürlich WebDictionary
zum Webstern/Übersetzen.
Christian
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From: smeyer@gralk.toppoint.de (Stephan Meyer)
Subject: CNews - sendbatches
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Moin,
man kuemmert sich ja in den "Sommermonaten" ueberhaupt nicht um sein
System...
So habe ich mich auch gewundert, dass es auf Postings von meinem System
keine Antworten gibt.! Nun, so habe ich geschaut, und entdeckt, dass meine
"togo"-Datei vor sich hinquoll und nicht eine Nachricht gespoolt wurde.
Nungut, meine Nachforschungen in den Logfiles ergaben, dass "sendbatches"
meckert, nicht genug Plattenspeicher zum spoolen zu haben.
Beispiel aus /usr/local/lib/news/batchlog :
-----------------------------------
Mon Jun 15 22:38:07 GMT+0100 1998, sendbatches 296
tpki backlog 1 (disk too full for batching)
Mon Jun 15 22:38:12 GMT+0100 1998, sendbatches 296
-----------------------------------
Zugegeben, da ich mich um mein System in den letzten Wochen nicht gekuemmert
habe, ist meine News-Platte schon etwas voll geworden.
Im Schnitt waren jedoch immer(!) 30 - 60 MB Platz.
Da das Problem ja nun behoben ist, moechte ich einfach nochmal
interessehalber wissen, wieviel Plattenplatz "sendbatches" denn gerne frei
haette. In den Docs habe ich keinen Hinweis gefunden.
Weiss jemand mehr ?
bye
Stephan
From: matthias@:-)factum-gmbh.de (Matthias Schürhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: AfterStep
Date: 17 Jun 1998 12:04:32 GMT
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pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler) wrote:
> Ich glaube solche Systempatches gibt es nicht. Aber mit einigen OPENSTEP
> Applikationen wird es zumindestens erträglicher unter NT. Installier Dir
> OPENSTEP/NT für TextEdit, Shell und Preview, benutze PopOver2 für eMail,
> NeXbar als Dock, NeXplorer zum Filebrowsen (www.eidolonsoftware.com), oder
> RBrowser zum Filebrowsen (www.ddrummer.com), OmniImage, OmniPDF, OmniWeb
> (ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/Windows-OPENSTEP) und natürlich
WebDictionary
> zum Webstern/Übersetzen.
Hallo,
ich habe gerade bei www.eidolonsoftware.com nachgeschaut; dort wird nexbar
zwar erwähnt, ist aber nicht (mehr?) verfügbar. Wo kann man das Teil jetzt
bekommen?
Viele Grüße
Matthias
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From: robert@iamexwi.unibe.ch (Philippe Robert)
Organization: Dept. of CS, University of Berne, Switzerland
Subject: Re: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Summary:
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Date: 17 Jun 98 14:46:11 GMT
In article <1d9yc70.4m5j87pirb28N@rhrz-isdn3-p46.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>, schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig) writes:
> Dann nenn' mal einige andere mehr. Ich kann sie nicht finden. Was
Ist zwar in der Schweiz, aber was soll's:
http://www.uptime.ch
BTW wir suchen ambitionierte, begabte .... Leute, welche im Umfeld OpenStep/Rhapsody
Entwicklung und WebObjects arbeiten moechten! Mehr auf der Website (oder via ein
persoenliches mail an mich...grin). Wir sind in Zuerich und in Bern lokalisiert.
-Phil
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
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Subject: Re: NS-Intel: Speicherproblem
Date: 18 Jun 1998 06:25:35 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Stephan Meyer <smeyer@gralk.toppoint.de> wrote:
: mir ist etwas komisches(!?) passiert. Folgendermaszen:
Ich habe schon haeufiger Faelle erlebt, bei denen fehlerhafte
Intel-Ware erst unter NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP regelmaessig abschmierte.
Der erste Verdacht ist immer: Laeuft Dein Prozessorluefter noch?
Benutzt Du Waermeleitpaste zwischen Prozessor und Kuehler?
Ansonsten: Kritische Timingeinstellungen im BIOS ueberpruefen.
HTH
Axel
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From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
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Subject: IBM Intellistation MPro Treiber gesucht
Date: 18 Jun 1998 08:46:44 GMT
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Ich habe eine Intellistation mit 20 MB Intergraph Karte (Intense 3D). Gibt
es OpenStep Treiber?
Gibt es einen Soundtreiber für die Kiste (Crystal Wave)?
Alex
From: Thomas.Fuelling@t-online.de (Thomas Fülling)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Suche !!!!
Date: 18 Jun 1998 09:30:02 GMT
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i´m searching for colour-monitor, cd-rom-drive and powersupply for a next
colour-station n-1100.
i´m living in germany (costs for shipping?)
please send me an e-mail
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OS/Rhapsody-Jobs in De?
Date: 18 Jun 1998 17:07:59 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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Dominik Westner <dominik@gowest.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:
>Probiers doch mal bei der GEFM ... die haben sicher auch einige
>interessante Sachen, wenn Dich WebObjects + Java interessieren.
He, Vorsicht! :-) Sonst Beule.
Gruesse nach Feldkirchen,
Chris
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Welche HDs laufen mit schwarzen Kisten?
Date: 18 Jun 1998 17:09:29 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle) wrote:
>ich habe zwei schwarze NeXT-Station s, bei denen
>die Festplatten kaputt sind.
DCAS, Fireball. 2G oder kleiner kaufen.
Rgds, Chris
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From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
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Date: 18 Jun 1998 20:16:44 GMT
Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany
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From: jnickelsen@acm.org (Juergen Nickelsen)
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Subject: Curses (was Re: Lynx2.8 auf Ultrix, NeXT nicht 8bit clean)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 01:58:00 +0200
Organization: Unlimited Surprise Systems, Berlin
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Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de> wrote:
> BSD curses sind lame. Ken Arnold hat sie für tot erklärt und fordert die
> Leute auf, ncurses zu verwenden. (Was für ein Genus und Numerus hat
> "curses" eigentlich?)
Curses sind auf jeden Plural (dt. Flueche), da ist der Genus dann nicht
mehr so wichtig. :-)
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From: Namao <namao@pop3.yoshiki.ne.jp>
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Subject: Re: !! Warning to all PC users !!
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:18:52 +0900
Organization: Yoshiki Networks Co.Ltd.
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No PC dies on 2000.
Never propose wrong information!!
Lie advertisements sometimes be violated lows.
Year 2000 wrote in message <357317A8.13BD@toulon.pacwan.net>...
>!! Warning to all PC users !!
>
>Fact : Most of todays PC's will die on Dec 31st 1999 !
IT IS NOT A FACT!!
From: Bernhard Mayr <bernhard.mayr@tkc.at>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Umstieg OS -> Linux
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:29:33 +0200
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Hallo,
die normative Kraft des Faktischen zwingt micht dazu, in absehbarer Zeit
von OS 4.1 auf Linux umzusteigen. Das trifft mich sehr hart, da ich alle
Vortragsunterlagen, Artikel, Vorlesungsunterlagen etc. unter OS erzeugt
habe.
Frage an alle, die eine solche Situation gemeistert haben:
gibt es unter Linux irgendeine (auch kommerzielle) Moeglichkeit, unter
OS erstelltes Material weiterzuverwenden.
Konkret habe ich Create, SciPlot und Tailor (Postscripteditor) benutzt.
Für jeden Hinweis dankbar,
-Bernhard Mayr
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Date: 19 Jun 1998 09:07:00 +0100
From: nuppy@nuppy.harz.de (Niels Coelle)
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Subject: sendmail-Doku bei magnan?
Hallo!
ergo@camelot.in-berlin.de meinte am 17.06.98
zum Thema "sendmail und uucp ?":
> dank der Anleitung unter http://brise.ere.umontreal.ca/~magn
> an/ habe ich sendmail 8.8 installiert und konfiguriert. Gibt
Gibt es die Doku auch irgendwo anders? Eben habe ich versucht, die zu
bekommen, aber ich wurde mit einem permission denied abgewiesen. Auch mit
dem Link aus der PPP-FAQ bin ich nicht drangekommen.
cu
Niels
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: sendmail und uucp ?
Date: 18 Jun 1998 06:02:13 GMT
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In <EupvHH.9Mv@camelot.in-berlin.de> Olaf Foellinger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> dank der Anleitung unter http://brise.ere.umontreal.ca/~magnan/ habe ich
sendmail
> 8.8 installiert und konfiguriert. Gibt es ein ähnliches Kochrezept, wie man
> sendmail mit uucp einsetzen kann ?
define(`SMART_HOST', `uucp-uudom:seicom')dnl
define(`confUUCP_MAILER', uucp-uudom)dnl
define(`UUCP_MAILER_PATH', `/usr/bin/uux')dnl
define(`UUCP_MAILER_MAX', 10000000)dnl
FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl
FEATURE(nocanonify)dnl
MAILER(uucp)dnl
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Umstieg OS -> Linux
Date: 19 Jun 1998 11:32:19 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6mdi83$5ec$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <358A135D.FEA620E0@tkc.at>
Bernhard Mayr <bernhard.mayr@tkc.at> wrote:
>Frage an alle, die eine solche Situation gemeistert haben:
>gibt es unter Linux irgendeine (auch kommerzielle) Moeglichkeit, unter
>OS erstelltes Material weiterzuverwenden.
>Konkret habe ich Create, SciPlot und Tailor (Postscripteditor) benutzt.
Nein. Willkommen zurueck, in der wunderbaren Welt von texcad,
xfig, gnuplot, gimp und vi. Als ich damals fuer einige Monate
an einer Sun (SunOS, nicht OPENSTEP) arbeiten musste, bin ich
fast die Waende hoch gegangen. Zumindest von deinen Daten wirst
du dich wohl verabschieden muessen.
Tut mir leid, Chris
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From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.bsd,de.comp.os.unix
Subject: Re: Curses
Followup-To: de.comp.os.unix
Date: 19 Jun 1998 15:47:05 +0200
Message-ID: <6mdq4p$ab6$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de>
References: <6lreqi$8po$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <1dam3q0.yjvr4n3o1qdqN@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> <6m2rjh$ic5$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de> <1dauh8y.xomr9atixrs9N@n245-84.berlin.snafu.de>
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In article <1dauh8y.xomr9atixrs9N@n245-84.berlin.snafu.de>,
Juergen Nickelsen <jnickelsen@acm.org> wrote:
[libcurses]
> > (Was für ein Genus und Numerus hat "curses" eigentlich?)
>
> Curses sind auf jeden Plural (dt. Flueche), da ist der Genus dann nicht
> mehr so wichtig. :-)
Soviel Englisch kann ich gerade noch.
Die Frage stellt sich aber dennoch, schließlich ist es der Name einer
Library. John Strang spricht dementsprechend in _Programming with
curses_ (O'Reilly) von curses im Singular. Ebenso die ncurses Man-Page.
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From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: IP Nummer aendern
Date: 19 Jun 1998 16:11:17 GMT
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Wie kann man unter OS 4.2 die interne IP Nummer aendern?
Alex
From: Udo Mathia <udo@trantor.oph.rwth-aachen.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: V: NeXTStation Color
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:44:43 +0100
Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik
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Hallo!
Verkaufe meine Station, in folgender konfiguration:
68040 25MHz
32MB RAM
1GB Platte
17" Farbmonitor
Soundbox
Keyboard/Mouse
NEXTSTEP 3.3
Gebote ab 1000,- DM werden wohlwollend angenomen.
Wer will kann dazu einen defekten Farbmonitor zwecks
Ersatzteillager bekommen.
Der Rechner ist von 1991, und funktioniert tadellos.
Gruss, udo
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From: ergo@camelot.in-berlin.de (Olaf Foellinger)
Subject: Re: sendmail und uucp ?
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Hi,
In <6maah5$bi$4@marsu.navigator.de> Markus Wenzel wrote:
> In <EupvHH.9Mv@camelot.in-berlin.de> Olaf Foellinger wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > dank der Anleitung unter http://brise.ere.umontreal.ca/~magnan/ habe ich
> sendmail
> > 8.8 installiert und konfiguriert. Gibt es ein ähnliches Kochrezept, wie man
> > sendmail mit uucp einsetzen kann ?
>
> define(`SMART_HOST', `uucp-uudom:seicom')dnl
> define(`confUUCP_MAILER', uucp-uudom)dnl
> define(`UUCP_MAILER_PATH', `/usr/bin/uux')dnl
> define(`UUCP_MAILER_MAX', 10000000)dnl
> FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl
> FEATURE(nocanonify)dnl
> MAILER(uucp)dnl
Ist das als Ergänzung oder als Ersetzung der oben genannten Konfiguration gedacht
?
Gruß Olaf
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From: k@123.org (Kai Voigt)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: sendmail und uucp ?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 08:00:34 GMT
Organization: 123.org
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ergo@camelot.in-berlin.de (Olaf Foellinger) writes:
>Hi,
>In <6maah5$bi$4@marsu.navigator.de> Markus Wenzel wrote:
>> In <EupvHH.9Mv@camelot.in-berlin.de> Olaf Foellinger wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > dank der Anleitung unter http://brise.ere.umontreal.ca/~magnan/ habe ich
>> sendmail
>> > 8.8 installiert und konfiguriert. Gibt es ein ähnliches Kochrezept, wie man
>> > sendmail mit uucp einsetzen kann ?
>>
>> define(`SMART_HOST', `uucp-uudom:seicom')dnl
>> define(`confUUCP_MAILER', uucp-uudom)dnl
>> define(`UUCP_MAILER_PATH', `/usr/bin/uux')dnl
>> define(`UUCP_MAILER_MAX', 10000000)dnl
>> FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl
>> FEATURE(nocanonify)dnl
>> MAILER(uucp)dnl
>Ist das als Ergänzung oder als Ersetzung der oben genannten Konfiguration gedacht
>?
Obige Definitionen sind m4-Macros, aus denen /usr/local/bin/m4 Dir eine
funktionierende sendmail.cf generiert. Lese Dir /etc/sendmail/cf/README
durch.
Kai
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: IP Nummer aendern
Date: 22 Jun 1998 11:46:26 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz) wrote:
>Wie kann man unter OS 4.2 die interne IP Nummer aendern?
Hostmanager->local, oder direkt /etc/hostconfig editieren (bei einem
standalone konfiguriertem Rechner, wenn er etwa in einem gemischten
Netzwerk laeuft).
Regards, Chris
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
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From: rubsamen@pro-audio.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: IP Nummer aendern
Date: 22 Jun 1998 21:55:45 GMT
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz) wrote:
>>Wie kann man unter OS 4.2 die interne IP Nummer aendern?
>
>Hostmanager->local, oder direkt /etc/hostconfig editieren (bei einem
>standalone konfiguriertem Rechner, wenn er etwa in einem gemischten
>Netzwerk laeuft).
>
>Regards, Chris
Stimmt so glaube ich nicht. Zumindest unter NS 3.3 kann ich mich erinnern,
dass NS nach Aenderung von/etc/hostconfig nicht mehr hochkam. Ich habe damals
mit dem Netinfo Manager alle Eintraege, in denen meine IP Nummer vorkam auch
noch mal geaendert (und zar in der lokalen und auch in der Network database).
Danach ging's. Denk aber dran ein Backup von Netinfo zu machen ;o)
Gruss,
- Marcus
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: sendmail und uucp ?
Date: 22 Jun 1998 04:57:53 GMT
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In <Eux6tM.3B4@camelot.in-berlin.de> Olaf Foellinger wrote:
> Ist das als Ergänzung oder als Ersetzung der oben genannten Konfiguration
gedacht
> ?
Als Ergänzung. Das sind die bei mir UUCP-relevanten Zeilen (mit Ausnahme von
masquerade_envelope, die ist auch sonst nützlich). D.h.
1. uucp-Methode auswählen (ich bevorzuge uucp-uudom)
2. Smarthost angeben (bei mir seicom)
3. Pfad zum uux angeben
4. Größenbeschränkung ändern (der Default ist etwas klein)
5. Mit nocanonify unnötiges Herauswählen wegen DNS abstellen
6. MAILER(uucp) mit aufnehmen
Ist doch wesentlich einfacher, als in dem alten sendmail.cf von V5
herumzufummeln.
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: CD mounten
Date: 23 Jun 1998 06:14:27 GMT
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Hallo,
zufällig habe ich neulich entwas in der Konsole entdeckt, was ich mir
einfach nicht erklären kann. Wenn ich eine CD-ROM einlege, werden ja
nacheinenander diverse Filesysteme ausprobiert, bis ein passendes
gefunden wird. Lege ich nun eine DOS/Windows CD ein, habe ich eigentlich
erwartet, dass diese auch als solche erkannt und gemounted wird. In der
Konsole erscheint allerdings folgendes:
probing for DOS
SCSI command failed: 1A
sendCommand: I/O error
SCSI command failed: 1A
sendCommand: I/O error
probing for mac
probing for cdxa
probing for CDROM
Jun 23 08:11:16 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /CDROM
Wo kommen dieses Fehler her? Macht es einen Unterschied, wenn die CD als
CDROM und nicht als DOS gemounted wird?
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: IP Nummer aendern
Date: 23 Jun 1998 08:14:21 GMT
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rubsamen@pro-audio.com wrote:
>Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>>icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz) wrote:
>>>Wie kann man unter OS 4.2 die interne IP Nummer aendern?
>>
>>Hostmanager->local, oder direkt /etc/hostconfig editieren (bei einem
>>standalone konfiguriertem Rechner, wenn er etwa in einem gemischten
>>Netzwerk laeuft).
>Stimmt so glaube ich nicht. Zumindest unter NS 3.3 kann ich mich erinnern,
>dass NS nach Aenderung von/etc/hostconfig nicht mehr hochkam.
Klar kommt NS nicht mehr hoch, wenn man die Eintraege in hostconfig
verbiegt <boeses grinsen> habe ich grade letzte Woche wieder erlebt.
Aber nach meiner Erfahrung ist die IP Nummer hierbei unproblematisch.
Wie gesagt, standalone konfigurierter Rechner resp. mixed network.
In einem netinfo Netzwerk geht man natuerlich anders vor.
> Ich habe damals mit dem Netinfo Manager alle Eintraege, in denen meine IP
> Nummer vorkam auch noch mal geaendert (und zar in der lokalen und auch in
> der Network database).
Hm, ich lass mich ja gerne belehren, aber welche Netinfo-Eintraege
enthalten denn meine lokale IP Nummer? Ich hab eben noch mal schnell
durchgeschaut, und keine gesehen.
> Danach ging's. Denk aber dran ein Backup von Netinfo zu machen ;o)
Das kann man nicht genug betonen. Ein Netinfo Backup ist sehr, sehr
hilfreich beim troubleshooting, und man braucht nicht mehr als zB
ein Command-D, wenn die Maschine erst mal laeuft.
Was ich mir auch angewoehnt habe, ist einen Backup der ganzen
Instance0-Eintraege zu erzeugen. Das kann man zB wie folgt
machen:
mkdir ~/DriverBackups
cd /usr/Devices
find . -name Instance0.table -print | cpio -pdm ~/DriverBackups
Auf die Weise laesst sich die Treiberkonfiguration rasch nachlesen
und wiederherstellen.
HTH, Chris
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Subject: Re: APPLE-TECHNOLOGIETAG AN DER TU BERLIN AM DIENSTAG
Date: 23 Jun 1998 17:34:49 GMT
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gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann) wrote:
>APPLE TECHNOLOGIETAG AN DER TECHNISCHEN UNIVERSITÄT BERLIN
>Inhalte werden sein:
>
Da wir an der TU-Muenchen bereits einen solchen Tag hatten
(jaja Werbung haette ich vielleicht auch machen koennen), kann ich
euch nur raten: seid nicht zimperlich! Hakt nach!
Die Vorstellung bei uns, war ziemlich professionell, ging aber
hauptsaechlich Richtung MacIntosch Benutzer (es gibt jetzt auch
proportionale Scrollbars unter OS 8.5! Wow!) und damit am Fachpublikum
vorbei. Das was ehemalige NeXTler betrifft, entlockte es uns nur ein muedes
Gaehnen. Die einzige Technologie die fuer Apple wirklich innovativ und
herausragend ist, ist Quicktime 3.0.
Interessant an allen Stellen waere das programmiertechnische Konzept
gewesen (bei Rhapsody Interface/Project-Builder Demo gezeigt) das ist
aber in der Zeit kaum unterzubringen. Also zeigt man Technologiedemos
und fokusiert auf nichts.
Zum Thema Mac-OS X und Rhapsody wird man wohl auch nicht mehr hoeren
als hier in den News.
Am Ende musst ich mich fragen: ja was ist denn nun das Besondere? Wo
sind die Killertechnologien gegenueber Microsoft? (neben Quicktime).
Viele Gruesse,
Bernhard.
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: APPLE-TECHNOLOGIETAG AN DER TU BERLIN AM DIENSTAG
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Date: 24 Jun 1998 07:55:47 GMT
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Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM (scholzb@peanuts.org) wrote:
: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann) wrote:
: >APPLE TECHNOLOGIETAG AN DER TECHNISCHEN UNIVERSITÄT BERLIN
: >Inhalte werden sein:
: >
: Da wir an der TU-Muenchen bereits einen solchen Tag hatten
: (jaja Werbung haette ich vielleicht auch machen koennen), kann ich
: euch nur raten: seid nicht zimperlich! Hakt nach!
Habe ich getan/versucht, auf dem Technologie-Tag in Dortmund und,
schwaecher noch, da noch 'Mac'-orientierter auf dem Apple-Tour Tag
in Duesseldorf.
Quintessenz: Apple ist an OPENSTEP und OPENSTEPlern nicht (mehr)
interessiert, es sei denn natuerlich, sie kaufen G3s und MacOS X.
Kein Upgrade-Path fuer OPENSTEP (alte Binaries laufen nicht, Win32
Technologie, etwa analog zu Bluebox oder gar Carbon ist nicht vorhanden
oder geplant, mit anderen Worten seht selbst zu, wie ihr zurecht kommt)
ausser Rhapsody V1.0, das hoffentlich/evtl./vielleicht gleichzeitig mit
Rhapsody V1.0 fuer PPC herauskommt und die letzte Rhapsody-Version
(ueberhaupt) sein soll. Keine Plaene fuer Intel-Systeme, d.h. fuer
OPENSTEP Benutzer, Developer koennten ja auf Rhapsody umsteigen, falls
ihre Software OpenStep-kompatibel ist; erst recht nichts fuer NeXT-
Hardware Besitzer.
Das ganze scheint mir wie ein hoefliches aber nicht sehr verdecktes
"Ihr koennt uns mal ...".
Treibende Kraefte hierin sind und waren neben Apple selbst, wie man
z.B. in der Rhapsody-Talk Liste sehen konnte, eine Menge von MacIntosh-,
d.h. MacOS (classic?:-))-Benutzern.
[Pers. Anm: Daran werde ich natuerlich mein zukuenftiges Verhalten
gegenueber der Firma und ihrem Nutzerkreis orientieren.]
Da damit auch die Physik in Essen mittel- und langfristig von OPENSTEP
auf LINUX umsteigt (umsteigen muss), moechte ich mich der hier schon
gestellte Frage anschliessen:
Sollte man nicht eine Umsteiger News-Liste einrichten und dort
Alternativen und spezifische Ergaenzungen (wie etwa gnustep) besprechen
und einfuehren. Oder sind wir hier so allein, dass sich das nicht
lohnt? Oder bleiben wirklich einige/viele bei Apple mit PowerMac, trotz
des Verhaltens, das diese Firma 'uns' gegenueber an den Tag legt und
das ich so noch nie bei Zusammenschluessen oder sogar Aufkaeufen erlebt
habe [z.B. wurden die Apollo-Domain-Kunden von HP noch jahrelang gepflegt
bis ein 'sanfter' Umstieg auf HP moeglich war und deren Beispiele gibt es
viele]?
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: Henrik Hempelmann <hh@actis.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: CD mounten
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:21:10 +0200
Organization: Actis in Berlin GmbH
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Juergen Grieb wrote:
> gefunden wird. Lege ich nun eine DOS/Windows CD ein, habe ich eigentlich
> erwartet, dass diese auch als solche erkannt und gemounted wird. In der
> Konsole erscheint allerdings folgendes:
>
> probing for DOS
> SCSI command failed: 1A
> sendCommand: I/O error
> SCSI command failed: 1A
> sendCommand: I/O error
> probing for mac
> probing for cdxa
> probing for CDROM
> Jun 23 08:11:16 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /CDROM
>
> Wo kommen dieses Fehler her? Macht es einen Unterschied, wenn die CD als
> CDROM und nicht als DOS gemounted wird?
"DOS" bezeichnet die FAT* Dateisysteme von dos/win Disketten und
Platten. Auf CDs wird dieses Format nicht verwendet.
Das Format von CDs ist (fast) immer ISO-9660, auch bei dos/win.
Dieses wird vom NeXTSTEP als 'CDROM' bezeichnet.
Unterschiedlich sind jedoch die Erweiterungen zu ISO-9660 um
Filenamen und -Attribute darzustellen die ueber das '8.3'-Dos
Format hinausgehen. Unter Unix ist die RockRidgeExtension ueblich.
MS erfindet noch mal schnell eine Erweiterung namens 'Joliet'.
Von daher ist die Ausgabe oben im Log voellig in Ordnung.
Reine NeXTSTEP CDs verwenden auch schon mal das 'normale' UnixFilesystem
UFS, aber das kann dann kein anderer mehr lesen....
Henrik
From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: APPLE-TECHNOLOGIETAG AN DER TU BERLIN AM DIENSTAG
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:04:43 +0200
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H.-R. Oberhage <phy070@spo109> wrote:
> Treibende Kraefte hierin sind und waren neben Apple selbst, wie man
> z.B. in der Rhapsody-Talk Liste sehen konnte, eine Menge von MacIntosh-,
> d.h. MacOS (classic?:-))-Benutzern.
Apple soll auf seine Benutzer oder Entwickler gehoert haben? -- Das kann
ich nicht glauben.
Michael
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From: friedl@stud.uni-hannover.de (Michael Friedland)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Sendmail 8.8, m4
Date: 24 Jun 1998 17:41:25 GMT
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Hallo,
ich versuche gerade, das Sendmail 8.8.5 zu installieren. Alle Einstellungen
sind soweit gemacht, jedoch wenn ich das Installationsskript inst_sendmail
laufen lasse, bekomme ich zum Schluss:
You need a newer version of M4, at least as new as
System V or GNU
m4: file not found: NoSuchFile
Installation finished.
.. und die sendmail.cf ist nur halb fertig....
Das M4 ist aber zusammen dem Sendmail-Paket gekommen und eine neuere Version
habe ich nicht gefunden.
Hat jemand vielleicht eine Idee ??
Vielen Dank
From: Markus Kirschner <markus.kirschner@rz.uni-regensburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.8, m4
Date: 25 Jun 1998 02:35:40 GMT
Organization: University of Regensburg, Germany
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Moin auch!
Michael Friedland wrote:
> Hallo,
> ich versuche gerade, das Sendmail 8.8.5 zu installieren. Alle Einstellungen
> sind soweit gemacht, jedoch wenn ich das Installationsskript inst_sendmail
> laufen lasse, bekomme ich zum Schluss:
> You need a newer version of M4, at least as new as
> System V or GNU
> m4: file not found: NoSuchFile
> Installation finished.
Ich hab hier Sendmail 8.8.5 und GNU m4 V1.4 auf NSfIP 3.3 laufen.
Probier mal
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/./NEXTSTEP/unix/admin/m4.1.4.NIHS.bsd.tar.gz
tschuess
8=|
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From: "Julius Bahr" <Bahr_Julius@lsg.musin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Von MacOS.app zu DR2
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:27:20 +0200
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Hallo
seit einer Woche bin ich nun stolzer Besitzer der DR2. Als ehemaliger
Macuser bin ich doch recht beeindruckt. Ich w=FCrde allerdings gerne meine
Daten aus MacOS.app gerne in Rhapsody weiterverwenden. Leider sind meine
hardwarem=E4=DFigen M=F6glichkeiten eher eingeschr=E4nkt. Ich bin an keinem
EtherNetz angeschlo=DFen. Zur Verf=FCgung stehen ein PowerMAC 8500, 2
Wechselfestplatten ( eine mit MacOS 8.1 ) und einem ISDN Geoport Adapter am
seriellen Port. Eine Idee hab ich schon: Ich k=F6nnte die Daten auf CD brenne=
n
( ISO-9660 ) und dann unter DR2 laden ( ich dachte eher an etwas
anwenderfreundlicheres ) oder ich k=F6nnte auf einer Maschine der DR2 eine IP
zuordnen und der MacOS.app eine andere und es dann =FCber FileSharing
probieren. Allerdings habe ich noch keine konkrete Vorstellung wie ich das
anstellem soll.
Hilfe ist sehr willkommen, vielen Dank.
Gr=FC=DFe :->
Julius
From: ux4evr@yahoo.com
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Subject: UI modifikation ?
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 05:40:28 GMT
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Hallo,
kann mann eigentlich das User Interface von NeXTSTEP und OpenStep
modifizieren ?
Besten Dank für euhren Antworten.
Pascal Kreyer
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From: bongo <thomas.bong@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
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Subject: Business objects
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:45:04 -0700
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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Was ist das eigentlich ?
From: Bernhard Mayr <bernhard.mayr@tkc.at>
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Subject: OS - default
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:36:31 +0200
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Liebe Freunde von OS,
vielleicht kann mir einer von Euch bei meinem etwas seltsamen Problem
weiterhelfen:
mein System ist nicht in der Lage, die "Default-Graphik (VGA? 640x400)
anzuzeigen.
Ich bemerkte dies, als ich OS 4.1 unter "default" booten wollte bzw. als
ich eine
Neuinstallation von NS 3.3 ("downgrade") vornehmen wollte.
Die erste installierte Version war NS 3.3, spaeter OS 4.0 und 4.1. Die
Erstinstallation
hat problemlos funktioniert.
HW: Intel Pentium, SCSI-System, Diamond Stealth 3200 Graphikkarte.
Any hints?
lg,
-Bernhard
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From: scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: UI modifikation ?
Date: 25 Jun 1998 10:08:38 GMT
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ux4evr@yahoo.com wrote:
>kann mann eigentlich das User Interface von NeXTSTEP und OpenStep
>modifizieren ?
>
Aber sicher! Ohne Neukompilation. Das ist ja gerade eines der Features
von NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. Einfach im InterfaceBuilder (Developer-Tool)
die Interface Dateien bearbeiten.
Gruesse,
Bernhard.
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From: pom@imsd.uni-mainz.de (Klaus Pommerening)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Business objects
Date: 25 Jun 1998 11:06:45 GMT
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In <35928CA0.CC8@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> bongo wrote:
> Was ist das eigentlich ?
>
Zeilen in einer Tabelle
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From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: APPLE-TECHNOLOGIETAG AN DER TU BERLIN AM DIENSTAG
Date: 25 Jun 1998 10:28:18 GMT
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Michael Schuerig wrote:
> > Treibende Kraefte hierin sind und waren neben Apple selbst, wie man
> > z.B. in der Rhapsody-Talk Liste sehen konnte, eine Menge von MacIntosh-,
> > d.h. MacOS (classic?:-))-Benutzern.
>
> Apple soll auf seine Benutzer oder Entwickler gehoert haben? -- Das kann
> ich nicht glauben.
Das war *fast* witzig. :-(
Holger
Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:34:00 +0100
From: nuppy@nuppy.harz.de (Niels Coelle)
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Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.8, m4
friedl@stud.uni-hannover.de meinte am 24.06.98
zum Thema "Sendmail 8.8, m4":
> You need a newer version of M4, at least as new as
> System V or GNU
> m4: file not found: NoSuchFile
> Installation finished.
Irgendwo hast Du noch die alte m4 installiert. Such doch mal nach m4. Der
gleiche Fehler wurde hier oder in einer der englischen NeXT-Gruppen
behandelt.
cu
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From: ux4evr@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: UI modifikation ?
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:22:20 GMT
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Und kannst-du mir sagen wo die Datein liegen ?
Salutations
Pascal
In article <6mt7j6$350$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de>,
scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM) wrote:
>
> ux4evr@yahoo.com wrote:
> >kann mann eigentlich das User Interface von NeXTSTEP und OpenStep
> >modifizieren ?
> >
> Aber sicher! Ohne Neukompilation. Das ist ja gerade eines der Features
> von NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. Einfach im InterfaceBuilder (Developer-Tool)
> die Interface Dateien bearbeiten.
>
> Gruesse,
>
> Bernhard.
>
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From: Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
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Subject: Re: UI modifikation ?
Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:52:18 GMT
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ux4evr@yahoo.com wrote:
: Und kannst-du mir sagen wo die Datein liegen ?
: Salutations
: Pascal
Eine Applikation (.app) ist in Wirklichkeit ein Verzeichnis (probier
mal im Workspace Öffne als Ordner mit einer Anwendung aus.) In diesem
Verzeichnis gibt es dann Unterverzeichnisse mit English.lproj,
German.lproj und darin gibt es die .nib Dateien. Und .nib enthalten
dann jeweils einen Teil der GUI.
Eberhard
From: jbaier@taig18.hh.schule.de (Joerg Baier)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NS 3.0 abzugeben
Date: 25 Jun 1998 18:27:07 GMT
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Hallo,
Vielleicht kann es noch jemand gebrauchen ...NS 3.0 (nur für die schwarze
Kiste) gebe ich gerne ab
Bei Interesse kuze email an jbaier@taig18.hh.schule.de
Joerg Baier
Agathenburg
From: Helge Hess <helge@mdlink.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Yellow Box NT
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:45:36 +0200
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Hallo,
hat irgend jemand schon irgend wann einmal eine YellowBox fuer NT
erhalten ? Ich warte nun schon seit Ewigkeiten auf eine solche.
Weiss jemand wann mit der YellowBox-2 zu rechnen ist.
Ist ueberhaupt noch mit YellowBoxen fuer NT zu rechnen (auf den
www.apple.com Seiten findet man ja nichts dazu) ?
Waehre es theoretisch noch moeglich OPENSTEP fuer NT zu erwerben ?
Tschaui
Helge
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Yellow Box NT
Date: 25 Jun 1998 20:39:47 GMT
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Helge Hess <helge@mdlink.de> wrote:
: Hallo,
: hat irgend jemand schon irgend wann einmal eine YellowBox fuer NT
: erhalten ?
Das dem Stand von DR1 entsprechende ist doch schon lange verfuegbar.
: Ich warte nun schon seit Ewigkeiten auf eine solche.
: Weiss jemand wann mit der YellowBox-2 zu rechnen ist.
Hmm. Sollte ja so ca. 4 Wochen nach der DR2 PPC kommen. Die sind
allerdings schon rum.
: Ist ueberhaupt noch mit YellowBoxen fuer NT zu rechnen (auf den
: www.apple.com Seiten findet man ja nichts dazu) ?
Sicher. YellowBox NT ist die Cross-Plattform Strategie von
Apple. So wurde es auf der WWDC immer wieder gesagt.
: Waehre es theoretisch noch moeglich OPENSTEP fuer NT zu erwerben ?
Ich nehme an, dass OPENSTEP Enterprise weiterhin verfuegbar ist.
Frag doch mal den Haendler deines Vertrauens (z.B. rcn hier in
Berlin)
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Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
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From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Von MacOS.app zu DR2
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:22:51 +0200
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Julius Bahr <Bahr_Julius@lsg.musin.de> wrote:
> Hallo
>
> seit einer Woche bin ich nun stolzer Besitzer der DR2. Als ehemaliger
> Macuser bin ich doch recht beeindruckt. Ich würde allerdings gerne meine
> Daten aus MacOS.app gerne in Rhapsody weiterverwenden.
Einfach auf beiden Seiten, also im Rhapsody NetworkManager(???) und in
Mac Open Transport IP-Adressen eintragen und dann vom Mac per FTP auf
Rhapsody uebertragen. Geht problemlos.
Michael
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From: Joachim <joachim@ponton.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: DATEN fuer 19" Monitor
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:25:28 +0200
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Ich bin seit ein par Monaten stolzer Besitzer eines Next Turbo Color
Station mit angeschlossenem 19" Festfrequenzmonitor Type CM2197AS3NE.
Alles läuft wunderbar.
Ich würde den Monitor nur gerne auch an einem Linuxrechner mit X
Terminal und KDE Desktop betreiben. Adapterkabel mit 15 Pol. VGA Stecker
hab ich schon. Ich müßte nur die technischen Eckdaten haben (Auflösung,
Bildwiederholfrequenz Horizontal und Vertikal Ablenkfrequenzen) sowie
eine Belegung der Eingangsbuchse.
Vielen Dank...
From: sedwards@fred.net (DEEPSPACE TECH)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NEXT HARDWARE SPECIALS
Date: 26 Jun 1998 14:11:36 GMT
Organization: FredNet - Frederick, Md.
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Jun 1998 14:11:36 GMT
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installed on the HD(ALL EQUIPMENT IS NON ADB ONLY).
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,maus.sys.next,maus.sys.mac,bln.termine,bln.comp.misc,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: TREFFEN: Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) am 6. Juli 1998
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Date: 26 Jun 1998 14:05:58 GMT
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EINLADUNG ZUM TREFFEN DER BERLINER NeXT USER GROUP (BeNG)
*********************************************************
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) trifft sich am
Montag, den 6. Juli 1998, um 20.00 Uhr,
in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e. V.,
Kiautschoustrasse 18, 13353 Berlin,
wobei folgende Themen geplant sind:
NETINFO FUER EINSTEIGER
Sowohl NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP als auch Rhapsody verwalten Ihr
Netzwerk ueber einen sehr leistungsfaehigen Verzeichnisdienst
mit Namen NetInfo, der inzwischen auch fuer andere Plattformen
verfuegbar ist. Was genau hinter NetInfo steckt, wird Thema
eines Vortrages sein; eine Vertiefungsveranstaltung zu
NetInfo ist fuer ein spaeteres Treffen geplant.
FTP-ADMINISTRATOREN GESUCHT
Die Berliner NeXT User Group sucht zum einen fuer Ihren
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-FTP-Server zum anderen fuer Ihren demnaechst
verfuegbaren Rhapsody/YellowBox-FTP-Server Freiwillige, die
mithelfen, diese regelmaessig zu pflegen. Details dazu
auf diesem Treffen. Freiwillige von Auswaerts koennen sich
auch per E-Mail an info@beng.org wenden.
NEXTTOYOU
Fast puenktlich zum Sommeranfang wird am 29. Juni die neueste
Ausgabe des NeXT- und Apple-Technologiemagazins NEXTTOYOU
(http://www.nexttoyou.de) erschienen. Wie immer stellen wir
diese Ausgabe kurz vor.
Das Treffen steht allen NEXTSTEP und OPENSTEP- bzw. Rhapsody-
Interessierten offen, auch Einsteigern oder Leuten, die erst einmal
mehr ueber NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP und Rhapsody bzw. MacOS X, dem neuen
Betriebsssystem von Apple, erfahren wollen.
Wir treffen uns in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e.V.
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin (Wedding)
von 20.00 bis ca. 22.00 Uhr. Die Raeume selbst befinden sich im
Erdgeschoss.
WIE KOMMT MAN HIN
Da die Kiautschoustrasse in einem Wohngebiet liegt und es
erfahrungsgemaess kaum freie Parkplaetze in der Naehe gibt,
empfehlen wir die Anfahrt mit dem Fahrrad oder mit oeffentlichen
Verkehrsmitteln.
Sie erreichen uns am besten ueber folgende Linien:
U-BAHN U 9 bis U-Bahnhof Amrumer Strasse
U 6 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
BUS 248 bis Kiautschoustrasse
221 bis Luxemburger Strasse
245 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
120 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
Die behindertengerechten Busse der Linie 248 halten fast vor der Tuer
(50 m), bei den anderen Linien sollten Sie einen Fussweg von etwa
fuenf Minuten einplanen. Einen Fahrplan von Ihnen zur BeNG finden Sie
unter der URL http://www.fahrinfo-berlin.de.
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ru \ ___-H-"""
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Wenn Sie einen Internet-Zugang haben, koennen Sie einen Blick auf den
entsprechenden Kartenausschnitt auf dem Server des StadtINFO-Verlags
werfen. Unter der URL http://www.beng.org/meeting.html ist eine
Umgebungskarte der Kiautschoustrasse abgebildet, auf der die
Vereinsraeume des IN-Berlin e. V. durch einen roten Kreis markiert
sind.
DAS UEBERNAECHSTE TREFFEN
Das darauffolgende Treffen findet am 3. August 1998 statt. Bisher sind
keine konkreten Dinge geplant.
UEBER BeNG
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) existiert seit 1990 und ist
ein loser Zusammenschluss von NeXT-Interessierten.
Wir betreiben zwei Mailinglisten fuer Ankuendigungen bzw. fuer
Diskussionen rund um NeXT/Apple-Technologien und einen FTP-Server
fuer NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Programme (ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT).
Unser Rhapsody-FTP-Server (ftp://ftp.beng.org) befindet sich noch
im Aufbau. Naehere Informationen erhalten sie, indem Sie eine E-Mail
an about@beng.org schicken.
Wir treffen uns in der Regel am ersten Montag im Monat um 20.00 Uhr.
Wenn dieser Tag ein Feiertag ist, findet das Treffen in der
darauffolgenden Woche statt. Oft werden auch Vortraege gehalten oder
Vorfuehrungen arrangiert.
Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG)
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 39 03 93 03
Fax +49 30 / 39 03 93 04
WWW http://www.beng.org
E-Mail info@beng.org
UEBER IN-BERLIN
Das Individual Network Berlin (IN-Berlin) bietet seit 1990
Internet-Zugang zur privaten Nutzung an. IN-Berlin arbeitet nicht
gewinnorientiert und ist seit 1996 ein eingetragener Verein, der
heute ueber seine 2 MBit/s-Anbindung mehr als 600 Teilnehmer mit
Internet-Konnektivitaet versorgt.
In den Vereinsraeumen des IN-Berlin e.V. in Berlin-Wedding finden
regelmaessig Usertreffen, Schulungen und Veranstaltungen befreundeter
Gruppen, z. B. der Berliner LINUX-Usergruppe (BeLUG) oder der Berliner
NeXT User Group (BeNG), statt.
Info-Kontakt IN-Berlin e. V.
Kiautschoustr. 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 45 49 43 43
Fax +40 30 / 45 49 43 44
WWW http://www.in-berlin.de
E-Mail info@in-berlin.de
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From: Alexander Rockel <aro@rocco.hh.provi.de>
Subject: V: Next CD-ROM-Lw (ext.)
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Hallo,
ich habe noch ein externes original Next-SCSI-CDROM Laufwerk
zu verkaufen. Farbe: schwarz, inkl. Netzkabel, Next-SCSI-
Kabel und ein paar Caddies.
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From: smeyer@toppoint.de (Stephan Meyer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NS 3.3 auf Schwarze Hardware
Date: 27 Jun 1998 10:19:56 +0200
Organization: Toppoint e.V.
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Tach,
ich moechte meine Station endlich mal reaktivieren,
da meine Intel-Installation momentan "Zicken" macht.
Auf der Station laeuft zur Zeit ein mehr oder weniger
vollstaendiges 3.2, das moechte ich vollstaendig ersetzen
durch 3.3.
Ich habe KEIN SCSI.CDROM, so dass mir nur der Weg einer
Netzwerk-Installation bleibt.
Frage: Ich stelle mir die Angelegenheit so vor, dass auf dem
Gegenrechner nicht unbedingt NS verlangt wird, sondern "nur"
ein CD-ROM-Zugang.
Also, ist es moeglich, das System mit Hilfe eines NT-Rechners
durchzufuehren ? Wenn ja, habe ich eine grosse Auswahl an
Netzwerkkarten; ich muss mir dann noch eine zulegen, da ich Intel-seitig
keine habe.
Wenn NS auf Intel vorrausgesetzt wird, gebt mir bitte einen Tip fuer die
PREISWERTESTE unterstuetzte Karte.!!!
Danke
Stephan
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ch dem Umschalten
in den Grafikmodus.
Wo liegt jetzt mein Fehler, es funktionierte vorher doch auch mit
dem Wechsel der Bildschirmaufloesung...
DRINGEND!!!
Antworten bitte in diese Group, da ich EMail momentan ja nicht lesen kann
:-)
P.S.: Was ich auch nochmal versuchen koennte, ware das umkopieren der
Netinfo.db von der Installations-CD auf die Platte, doch habe ich es nicht
geschafft, die CD (ATAPI) im Single-Modus zu mounten. Tips ?
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e-Mail: smeyer@toppoint.de
From: udo@trantor.oph.rwth-aachen.de (Udo Mathia)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: V: NeXTStation Color
Date: 27 Jun 1998 08:43:22 GMT
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Hallo!
Verkaufe meine Station, in folgender konfiguration:
68040 25MHz
32MB RAM
1GB Platte
17" NeXT Farbmonitor
Soundbox
Keyboard/Mouse
NEXTSTEP 3.3
Sony 2.4-fach SCSI CDROM Laufwerk
Preis: 1000,- DM.
Wer will kann dazu einen defekten NeXT Farbmonitor zwecks
Ersatzteillager bekommen.
Der Rechner ist von 1991, und funktioniert tadellos.
Gruss, udo
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From: Joachim <joachim@ponton.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: DATEN fuer 21" Monitor
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:09:30 +0200
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Berichtigung: Der Monitor hat 21"
Ich bin seit ein par Monaten stolzer Besitzer eines Next Turbo Color
Station mit angeschlossenem 21" Festfrequenzmonitor Type CM2197AS3NE.
Alles läuft wunderbar.
Ich würde den Monitor nur gerne auch an einem Linuxrechner mit X
Terminal und KDE Desktop betreiben. Adapterkabel mit 15 Pol. VGA Stecker
hab ich schon. Ich müßte nur die technischen Eckdaten haben (Auflösung,
Bildwiederholfrequenz Horizontal und Vertikal Ablenkfrequenzen) sowie
eine Belegung der Eingangsbuchse.
Vielen Dank...
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From: ergo@camelot.in-berlin.de (Olaf Foellinger)
Subject: Re: Kein Bild ab Login-Screen
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In <6n29io$i4m$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> Stephan Meyer wrote:
> Hallo,
>
[ Problembeschreibung gelöscht ]
Hast Du schon probiert, mit 'config=Default -v' zu booten ?
Gruß Olaf
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From: "Julius Bahr" <Bahr_Julius@lsg.musin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Hilfe! Wie kann ich mich wieder einloggen ?
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:19:51 +0000
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Servus Helfende
ich benutze Rhapsody DR2 auf einem PowerMac 8500 und habe das Problem mich
weder als root noch als registrierter Benutzer einloggen zu k=F6nnen ( das
Passwort m=FC=DFte eigentlich richtig sein, ich habe allerdings mit NetInfo
herumgespielt, vielleicht ist da was in die Hose gegangen ). Mit der
Gastfunktion kenne ich mich nicht aus ( Beschreibung n=F6tig ). Gibt es
vielleicht irgendeien Bootparameter mit dem man sich als root einloogen kan=
n
? Es ist =FCbrigens kein Netzwerk vorhanden, daf=FCr aber eine externe Platte
mit MacOS 8.1 und Multibooter 1.0d13.
Vielen Dank f=FCr die Hilfe
Julius
From: holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Kein Bild ab Login-Screen
Date: 27 Jun 1998 11:41:08 GMT
Organization: the unstoppable code machine
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Stephan Meyer wrote:
> seit ich bei meiner NS3.3-Intel- Installation die Bildschirmaufloesung
> heraufsetzen wollte, spinnt diese.
> Ab dem Login-Screen bekomme ich nur noch ein schwarzen Bildschirm.
Maustreiber richtig installiert? Wenn der Bildschirm-Wechsel durchgeführt
wird, und keine Verbindung zu einem Eingabegerät (vulgo 'Maus') hergestellt
werden kann, bleibt 3.3 leider kleben.
Tip: mal mit -v stiefeln und der Treiberladerei zusehen.
Holger
From: holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NS 3.3 auf Schwarze Hardware
Date: 27 Jun 1998 11:50:32 GMT
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Stephan Meyer wrote:
> Auf der Station laeuft zur Zeit ein mehr oder weniger
> vollstaendiges 3.2, das moechte ich vollstaendig ersetzen
> durch 3.3.
> Ich habe KEIN SCSI.CDROM, so dass mir nur der Weg einer
> Netzwerk-Installation bleibt.
Das geht in der Praxis nur von einem anderen NS Rechner als Server.
> Frage: Ich stelle mir die Angelegenheit so vor, dass auf dem
> Gegenrechner nicht unbedingt NS verlangt wird, sondern "nur"
> ein CD-ROM-Zugang.
>
> Also, ist es moeglich, das System mit Hilfe eines NT-Rechners
> durchzufuehren ? Wenn ja, habe ich eine grosse Auswahl an
Nein, der Server muß ja auch die CDROM lesen können. eNTe kann das nicht.
Befor Du mit solchen Aktionen sinnlos Zeit verbrätst: besorg' Dir ein
SCSI CDROM. 4.2 klappt auch mit IDE, das hilft Dir aber bei der schwarzen
Kiste natürlich wenig.
> Netzwerkkarten; ich muss mir dann noch eine zulegen, da ich Intel-seitig
> keine habe.
> Wenn NS auf Intel vorrausgesetzt wird, gebt mir bitte einen Tip fuer die
> PREISWERTESTE unterstuetzte Karte.!!!
Cogent (DEC chipsatz). Gehören mittlerweile (glaube ich) Adaptec.
Davon mal abgesehen würde ich Dir aber trotzdem dazu raten, auf beiden
Rechnern einheitlich 4.2 zu installieren.
Holger
From: smeyer@toppoint.de (Stephan Meyer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: mounten von Dos-Drive ?
Date: 28 Jun 1998 19:36:57 +0200
Organization: Toppoint e.V.
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Tach,
Mein Problem mit dem schwarzen Bildschirm ab Loginscreen habe ich leider
nicht in den Griff bekommen koennen (eure Tips haben veider nicht
gefruchtet...)
Nun werde ich das System neu installieren, moechte aber wichtige Daten noch
ge-tar.gz-ed retten. Die erstellten Archive moechte ich auf meine 2. Platte
(DOS-formatiert) kopieren.
Ich habe es im Single-Modus NICHT geschafft, die 2. Platte zu mounten.
(Anscheinend fehlte noch das DOS-Filesystem, denn eine NeXt-formatierte
Diskette konnte ich einbinden.
Nun moechte ich natuerlich wissen, wie ich im Single.Modus an meine
2. Platte herankomme.
Konfiguration: 2x IDE-Platte
bye
Stephan
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From: Thomas_Richter@t-online.de (Thomas Richter)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: speziellen Email-Client unter Windoof 16/32Bit
Date: 26 Jun 1998 21:58:29 GMT
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Kennt jemand einen, natuerlich MIME-faehigen, POP3 Email-Client
fuer Windoof 16/32Bit, der die nette Eigenschaft besitzt (aehnlich
Mail.app) ein nettes Bildchen eines Absenders von emails, anzuzeigen ?
Unsere Windoof-User fuehlen sich naehmlich massiv benachteiligt.
Thomas
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Date: 28 Jun 1998 23:23:00 +0100
From: nuppy@nuppy.harz.de (Niels Coelle)
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holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de meinte am 27.06.98
zum Thema "Re: Kein Bild ab Login-Screen":
> Maustreiber richtig installiert? Wenn der Bildschirm-Wechsel
> durchgeführt wird, und keine Verbindung zu einem
> Eingabegerät (vulgo 'Maus') hergestellt werden kann, bleibt
> 3.3 leider kleben. Tip: mal mit -v stiefeln und der
> Treiberladerei zusehen.
Trat bei mir auch mal auf, als ich auf die schnelle eine M$-Maus statt
meiner geliebten Logimaus angeschlossen hatte...
Hope it helps
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: Bildschirm einstellen (Megapixel)
Message-ID: <1998Jun28.234950.15406@aurora.in-berlin.de>
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Stephan Meyer <smeyer@toppoint.de> wrote:
: gibt es eine Moeglichkeit, den Megapixel meiner Station
: zu justieren ? Knoepfe gibt es ja keine, und in
: den Preferences von 3.2 habe ich keine Wahlmoeglichkeiten
: gefunden. Mein Bild ist naemlich nicht das Beste (vielleicht
: auch altersbedingt)
Unterhalb der Abdeckung/Abschirmung (VORSICHT!! HOCHSPANNUNG -
GEFAHR!) sitzt ein Abgleichsregler (keine Ahnung, wie das
fachmaennisch heisst; ich bin kein Fernseh- oder Monitor-
Techniker...) Mit dessen Hilfe sollte sich das Bild einiger-
massen fokussieren lassen. Am besten macht man das bei
warmgelaufenem Monitor. Allerdings sollten das wegen der
Hochspannung, mit der die Bildroehre betrieben wird, nur
Leute machen, die wirklich wissen, was sie tun. Ggf. also
lieber von einem Fachhaendler/Experten/... machen lassen
als es selbst zu versuchen!
HTH,
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: http und perl
Date: 29 Jun 1998 09:47:56 GMT
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Hallo,
gibt es unter Next eine Möglichkeit aus einem Perl Programm heraus eine
html-Seite über eine URL zu holen um sie dann weiterzuverarbeiten?
Falls ja, wie macht man sowas?
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From: Alexander Rockel <aro@rocco.hh.provi.de.NOSPAM>
Subject: Re: V: Next CD-ROM-Lw (ext.): WEG
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Ist verkauft. Bitte nicht mehr anrufen 8-)
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From: wolfgang.roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de (Wolfgang Rpckelein)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Bildschirm einstellen (Megapixel)
Date: 29 Jun 1998 09:16:16 GMT
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In <1998Jun28.234950.15406@aurora.in-berlin.de> Ingmar Camphausen wrote:
> Stephan Meyer <smeyer@toppoint.de> wrote:
>
> : gibt es eine Moeglichkeit, den Megapixel meiner Station
> : zu justieren ? Knoepfe gibt es ja keine, und in
> : den Preferences von 3.2 habe ich keine Wahlmoeglichkeiten
> : gefunden. Mein Bild ist naemlich nicht das Beste (vielleicht
> : auch altersbedingt)
>
> Unterhalb der Abdeckung/Abschirmung (VORSICHT!! HOCHSPANNUNG -
> GEFAHR!) sitzt ein Abgleichsregler (keine Ahnung, wie das
> fachmaennisch heisst; ich bin kein Fernseh- oder Monitor-
> Techniker...) Mit dessen Hilfe sollte sich das Bild einiger-
> massen fokussieren lassen. Am besten macht man das bei
> warmgelaufenem Monitor. Allerdings sollten das wegen der
Und vor allem besser mit einem Plastikschraubenzieher machen
da dann -> a) keine Magnet-Probleme und b) etwas ungefÙhrlicher :-)
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From: tomi@objectfarm.org (Tomi Engel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: MACtreff Nürnberg mit MacOS X und Rhapsody Vortrag
Date: 29 Jun 1998 11:45:56 GMT
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen, Germany
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Hallo!
Am Mittwoch den 1. Juli findet das nächste "MACtreff Nürnberg" statt. Die
NEXTTOYOU wird dort einen Einblick in Apples Betriebssystem-Strategie geben
und hierbei besonders auf MacOS X und Rhapsody eingehen. Die aktuelle
Rhapsody DR2 Version (mit BlueBox und Java) wird in diesem Zusammenhang
vorgeführt werden.
Interessenten sollten sich nach Möglichkeit bei Georg Mennel
<geme@nuernberg.netsurf.de> anmelden, damit Raumprobleme vorzeitig erkannt
werden können.
Ort des Geschehens ist - wie jeden ersten Mittwoch im Monat - das:
Nachbarschaftshaus Gostenhof
Adam-Klein-Straße 6
90429 Nürnberg
Beginn: 19.00 - Ende gegen 22.00 Uhr.
Aloha
Tomi
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:59:05 +0100
From: roney.graf@uni-konstanz.de (Roney Graf)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: MACtreff Nürnberg mit MacOS X und Rhapsody Vortrag
Message-ID: <roney.graf-ya02408000R2906981459050001@news.uni-konstanz.de>
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In article <6n7upk$o45$1@rznews.rrze.uni-erlangen.de>, tomi@objectfarm.org
(Tomi Engel) wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> Am Mittwoch den 1. Juli findet das nächste "MACtreff Nürnberg" statt. Die
> NEXTTOYOU wird dort einen Einblick in Apples Betriebssystem-Strategie geben
> und hierbei besonders auf MacOS X und Rhapsody eingehen. Die aktuelle
> Rhapsody DR2 Version (mit BlueBox und Java) wird in diesem Zusammenhang
> vorgeführt werden.
Für eine kurze Zusammenfassung der Eindrücke und allfälliger neuer Infos
vielen Dank im voraus! :)
rg
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: http und perl
Date: 29 Jun 1998 16:04:26 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6n8dua$8e8$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
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juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>gibt es unter Next eine Möglichkeit aus einem Perl Programm heraus eine
>html-Seite über eine URL zu holen um sie dann weiterzuverarbeiten?
hallo,
z.B. ein lustiges programm, dass das fernsehprogramm ausgibt:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
use LWP::UserAgent;
sub getTV { my($sender)=@_;
$ua = new LWP::UserAgent;
$ua->agent("$0/$VERSION " . $ua->agent);
use HTTP::Request;
$req = new HTTP::Request 'GET' ,
"http://www.tvtoday.de/TVTODAY/akt.prog/sender.haupt/hauptsender/$sender.haup
t.html";
$req->header('Accept' => 'text/html');
# send request
$res = $ua->request($req);
# check the outcome
if ($res->is_success)
{ return $res->content;
} else
{ return "Error: " . $res->code . " " . $res->message;
}
}
sub printLine { my($zeit,$title)=@_;
$title=~y/îëüþè’á/äßöüÜÄÖ/;
print "$zeit\t$title\n";
return '';
}
foreach $sender ("ard","zdf","rtl","pro7","rtl2","sat1","west")
{ my($txt);
$txt=getTV($sender);
print "$sender\n";
$txt=~s/.*?\<br\>\<dt\>\<li\>\<strong\>([0-9]+\.[0-9]+)\t(.*?)\<\/str
ong\>.*?\<br\>/printLine($1,$2)/oegs;
}
exit(0);
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Yellow Box NT
Date: 29 Jun 1998 17:00:42 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6n8h7q$k48$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <35929AD0.E2A652EE@mdlink.de>
Helge Hess <helge@mdlink.de> wrote:
>hat irgend jemand schon irgend wann einmal eine YellowBox fuer NT
>erhalten ? Ich warte nun schon seit Ewigkeiten auf eine solche.
>Weiss jemand wann mit der YellowBox-2 zu rechnen ist.
>Ist ueberhaupt noch mit YellowBoxen fuer NT zu rechnen (auf den
>www.apple.com Seiten findet man ja nichts dazu) ?
Gibts, laeuft tadelos, wir entwickeln damit. Ich war erstaunt, dass
man mit NT auf einmal richtig arbeiten kann :-)
>Waehre es theoretisch noch moeglich OPENSTEP fuer NT zu erwerben ?
Ja. Wird immer noch verkauft. Du kannst dein Glueck natuerlich auch
mit dem Rhapsody/NT Beta probieren, aber ist halt Beta-Software.
HTH, Chris
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: http und perl
Date: 29 Jun 1998 20:05:19 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <6n8s1v$ba@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
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Daniel Boehringer wrote:
> use LWP::UserAgent;
Wo bekomme ich das her? War bei meinem Perl nicht mit dabei.
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From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: http und perl
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:47:42 +0200
Organization: Completely Disorganized
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Juergen Grieb <juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> wrote:
> Daniel Boehringer wrote:
>
> > use LWP::UserAgent;
>
> Wo bekomme ich das her? War bei meinem Perl nicht mit dabei.
CPAN = Comprehensive Perl Archive Network. Ein Server steht auch in
Deiner Naehe :-)
Einstieg ueber: http://www.perl.com/CPAN
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: http und perl
Date: 30 Jun 1998 07:55:07 GMT
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In article <6n8s1v$ba@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen
Grieb) writes:
> Daniel Boehringer wrote:
>
> > use LWP::UserAgent;
>
> Wo bekomme ich das her? War bei meinem Perl nicht mit dabei.
von jedem CPAN Archiv, z.B. auch von
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/comp/programming/languages/script/perl/CPAN/
dort dann in diesem Fall in
modules/by-module/LWP/
Detlev (posted + mailed)
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From: Frank Wegmann <wegmann@acm.org>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Yellow Box NT
Date: 30 Jun 1998 10:24:07 +0200
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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Helge Hess <helge@mdlink.de> writes:
> Hallo,
>
> hat irgend jemand schon irgend wann einmal eine YellowBox fuer NT
> erhalten ? Ich warte nun schon seit Ewigkeiten auf eine solche.
> Weiss jemand wann mit der YellowBox-2 zu rechnen ist.
Duerfte bald eintreffen. In den USA wird RDR2/Intel zusammen mit der
YB seit wenigen Tagen verschickt. Die RDR1-Version ist aber damals
auch recht zuegig verschickt worden (nachdem man den der
RDR/Intel-Version beiliegenden Gutschein zurueckgeschickt hat).
Frank
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From: "Bruce J. Dolby" <B.Dolby@alcatel.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: SCSI > 2 GB
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:00:01 +0200
Organization: SEL
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Hallo Next-Leute,
ich habe NS3.3 auf Intel laufen und moechte eine 2. SCSI Platte mit 4 GB
installieren.
Mein Problem: Die Platte ist scheinbar zu gross. Next meldet eine nicht
lesbare SCSI Platte und fragt, ob sie initialisiert werden soll. Hier
werden nur 245 MB anstatt die 4 GB angezeigt.
Ich habe keine Lust, den Plattenspeicher zu verschenken, also was soll
ich tun???
Gruesse
Bruce
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: NEXTTOYOU Sommer 1998
Date: 30 Jun 1998 15:44:05 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <6nb145$3b2$2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Jun 1998 15:44:05 GMT
Am Dienstag, den 30. Juni erscheint die Sommer-Ausgabe (2/98) der
NEXTTOYOU. (Aufgrund technischer Probleme sind wir leider zehn
Tage zu spaet dran.)
Aus dem Inhalt:
NEWS Neues und Aktuelles S. 8
FACTS Mach kennenlernen S. 21
MacOS X Strategie S. 26
WebObjects, Teil 2 S. 32
Buchtip: Apple Design S. 38
APPS Neues vom Software-Markt S. 40
TIPS Hier kommt die Maus S. 44
PnPDump S. 45
TEST Zwei X fuer ein R S. 47
Schluesselkinder S. 52
OmniWeb 3 S. 58
HOW Drucken wie von Geisterhand S. 64
Das Sahnehaeubchen (CAPer) S. 66
CODE Java fur Umsteiger S. 69
MiscSoundKit 2.0 S. 70
POSIX Bugfix S. 70
Apples neue Developer-Programme S. 71
NEXTTOYOU ist die deutschsprachige Zeitschrift fuer alle Anwender von
Apple- und NeXT-Technologie; sie wendet sich gleichermassen an Einsteiger
und Profis.
NEXTTOYOU erscheint viermal im Jahr jeweils zum Jahreszeitenbeginn und
kostet (inklusive Versand):
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Naehere Informationen zur NEXTTOYOU gibt's im WWW unter
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abonnieren.
Wer keinen Zugang zum WWW oder spezielle Fragen hat, kann sich auch an den
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: http und perl
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:49:50 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
Sender: thomas@gamelan.okay.net (thomas)
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In <6n7nsc$ba@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Juergen Grieb wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> gibt es unter Next eine Möglichkeit aus einem Perl Programm heraus eine
> html-Seite über eine URL zu holen um sie dann weiterzuverarbeiten?
>
> Falls ja, wie macht man sowas?
BEsorg Dir mal das Buch "Effektives Programmieren mit Perl5" von Michael
Schilli. Bloeder Titel, aber das Buch ist ganz gut. Evtl. gibts schon einen
Folgeband vom gleichen Autor.
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From: "Dr. Michael Paus" <Michael.Paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,stgt.next
Subject: Einladung zum naechsten NeKSt-Treffen in Stuttgart
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:40:31 +0200
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
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Hallo NeXT-Fans,
es ist mal wieder Zeit fuer unseren ueblichen NeXT-Stammtisch.
Ich habe daher fuer den kommenden Montag den 6. 7. 1998 um 20.00h wieder
einen Tisch im Sherlock reserviert. Alle die an einem Kloenschnack mit der
Stuttgarter NeXT User Gruppe Interesse haben sollten mal vorbeikommen.
(Fuer alle die immer noch nicht wissen wo das Sherlock ist:
Stuttgart Vaihingen, Pfaffenwaldring 62, Tel. 0711/6874909)
Ich hoffe auf zahlreiches Erscheinen
Michael
From: smeyer@toppoint.de (Stephan Meyer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: mounten von DOS-Platte
Date: 30 Jun 1998 22:37:07 +0200
Organization: Toppoint e.V.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <6nbi9j$rqo$1@LaForge.toppoint.de>
Hallo,
vielleicht ist meine vorherige Anfrage ja "in die Wand" gelaufen...
Ich MUSS eine DOS-Platte im Single-Modus (boot: -s) einbinden
Die Festplatte haengt am 1 Controller als 2. Platte (IDE)
Das Ganze auf Intel :-)
Wie bekomme ich das DOS.fs mit Zugriff auf die Platte zum Laufen ?
bye
Stephan
ES IST DRINGEND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Stephan Meyer, 27637 Nordholz
e-Mail: smeyer@toppoint.de
From: scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: SCSI > 2 GB
Date: 1 Jul 1998 08:27:43 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6ncrtv$eke$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de>
References: <3598A911.FC84B21@alcatel.de>
"Bruce J. Dolby" <B.Dolby@alcatel.de> wrote:
>Hallo Next-Leute,
>
>ich habe NS3.3 auf Intel laufen und moechte eine 2. SCSI Platte mit 4 GB
>installieren.
>Mein Problem: Die Platte ist scheinbar zu gross. Next meldet eine nicht
>lesbare SCSI Platte und fragt, ob sie initialisiert werden soll. Hier
>werden nur 245 MB anstatt die 4 GB angezeigt.
>Ich habe keine Lust, den Plattenspeicher zu verschenken, also was soll
>ich tun???
>
Das ist normal. Du wirst auch keinen Plattenplatz verschenken. NEXTSTEP
wird Dir Deine Platte in 2x2GB Partitionen zerlegen + 245 MB fuer die
dritte Partition, da Deine Platte offensichtlich 4.2GB gross ist :)
>2GB Paritionen kannst Du nicht nutzen. Eine andere Paritionierung
kannst Du nur haendisch erreichen durch editieren einer Disktab oder
per disk -p (geht aber nur fuer die 1. Paritition).
Eingebunden wird nach dem neustart nur die ersten Partition automatisch,
also nicht wundern. Weiter Partitionen einbinden ueber die fstab.
Bei Platten >4GB rechnet NEXTSTEP nur falsch (OPENSTEP ist da 'etwas'
besser, rechnet aber ab 8GB falsch :)
Gruesse,
Bernhard.
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scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de)
From: scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.8, m4
Date: 1 Jul 1998 08:28:30 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6ncrve$eke$2@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de>
References: <6mrdo5$hio$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> <6wY1UbwxLiB@nuppy.harz.de>
nuppy@nuppy.harz.de (Niels Coelle) wrote:
>friedl@stud.uni-hannover.de meinte am 24.06.98
>zum Thema "Sendmail 8.8, m4":
>
>> You need a newer version of M4, at least as new as
>> System V or GNU
>> m4: file not found: NoSuchFile
>> Installation finished.
>Irgendwo hast Du noch die alte m4 installiert. Such doch mal nach m4. Der
>gleiche Fehler wurde hier oder in einer der englischen NeXT-Gruppen
>behandelt.
>
Man verwende das sendmail 8.8.8 Paket von Peanuts, da ist m4 dabei.
Gruesse,
Bernhard.
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From: graudeju@iese.fhg.de (Holger Graudejus)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: mounten von DOS-Platte
Date: 1 Jul 1998 10:05:19 GMT
Organization: Fraunhofer Gesellschaft Institut iese
Message-ID: <6nd1kv$cvs@iese.iese.fhg.de>
References: <6nbi9j$rqo$1@LaForge.toppoint.de>
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In article <6nbi9j$rqo$1@laforge.toppoint.de>,
smeyer@toppoint.de (Stephan Meyer) writes:
>
> Ich MUSS eine DOS-Platte im Single-Modus (boot: -s) einbinden
> Die Festplatte haengt am 1 Controller als 2. Platte (IDE)
>
> Das Ganze auf Intel :-)
>
> Wie bekomme ich das DOS.fs mit Zugriff auf die Platte zum Laufen ?
Schon mit DOS.util versucht? Das Ding liegt glaube ich in
/usr/filesystems/DOS.fs/
Ciao, Holger.
From: marsu@cs.tu-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann)
Newsgroups: bln.archiv,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Neu auf dem Berliner NeXT-Archiv (01-Jul-98)
Date: 1 Jul 1998 09:38:49 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6nd039$h6p$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
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To: beng@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de
Neu auf dem NeXT-FTP-Archiv der BeNG (ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT):
Die neuesten READMEs gibts auch per NeXTMail. Subscribe:
mailto: majordomo@prz.tu-berlin.de mit Body: subscribe next_readmes
255186 May 10 04:54 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/admin/apps/DeadLift-0.1a-PI-b.tar.gz
467 May 10 04:55 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/admin/apps/DeadLift-0.1a.README
3347 May 11 03:44 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/admin/apps/NXBench-2.3.b.PI.README
40673 May 11 03:43 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/admin/apps/NXBench-2.3.b.PI.tar.gz
46034 May 4 10:43 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/admin/apps/upspeed-0.3.PI.tar.gz
1115 May 4 10:43 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/admin/apps/upspeed.readme
1114270 Jun 5 04:37 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/apps/Resound-3.0DR2-PI-bs.gnutar.gz
1276 Jun 5 04:36 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/apps/Resound-3.0DR2.README
9203065 Jun 25 01:07 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/database/apps/commercial/OpenBase_5.2.1.IP.DR2.bd.tar.gz
5053433 Jun 25 20:55 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/database/apps/commercial/OpenBase_5.2.1.NIS.bd.tar.gz
2889356 Jun 25 09:03 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/database/apps/commercial/OpenBase_5.2.1.w.I.bd.tar.gz
151147 Jun 24 21:55 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/database/libs/adaptors/PostgreSQL63.NIS.b.tar.gz
104533 Jun 24 21:56 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/database/libs/adaptors/PostgreSQLAdaptor132.NIS.b.tar.gz
1762914 Jun 14 21:43 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/SSLeay.0.9.0.1.m.NIS.b.tar.gz
286 Jun 14 21:43 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/SSLeay.0.9.0.1.m.NIS.b.tar.gz.asc
1680 Jun 14 21:38 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/SSLeay.0.9.0.1.m.README
843399 Jun 15 00:44 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/SSLeay.0.9.0.1.r.PI.b.tar.gz
286 Jun 15 00:45 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/SSLeay.0.9.0.1.r.PI.b.tar.gz.asc
1664 Jun 15 00:44 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/frameworks/SSLeay.0.9.0.1.r.README
405 May 12 09:16 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/games/Stella.0.7.README
136142 May 12 09:15 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/games/Stella.0.7.m.I.tar.gz
146641 May 25 09:47 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/GIFfun-source.tar.gz
236568 Jun 24 20:09 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/GIFfun.1.1.NIS.b.tar.gz
294517 Jun 4 22:40 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/OmniImage-4.0b1c-OSM-NIS.pkg.tar.gz
191323 Jun 4 19:12 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/OmniImage-4.0b1c-RDR2-IP.pkg.tar.gz
744973 Jun 4 22:40 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/commercial/OmniPDF-3.0b3e-OSM-NIS.pkg.tar.gz
411861 Jun 4 20:11 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/commercial/OmniPDF-3.0b3e-RDR2-IP.pkg.tar.gz
252414 Jun 2 11:41 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/images/icons/ppai_Icon_23.tar.gz
195772 Jun 26 01:41 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/images/icons/ppai_Icon_24.tar.gz
1291 May 7 02:21 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/PopOver-2.0.122b-RDR-PI.README
882165 May 7 02:22 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/PopOver-2.0.122b-RDR-PI.tar.gz
1291 May 7 02:22 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/PopOver-2.0.122b-RDR-w-I.README
607250 May 7 02:23 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/PopOver-2.0.122b-RDR-w-I.tar.gz
415 May 31 21:10 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/bind.8.1.2-nextstep.README
5461 May 31 21:09 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/bind.8.1.2-nextstep.d.tar.gz
1559112 Jun 1 22:05 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/news/apps/commercial/RadicalNews.0.9.5.NIHS.b.tar.gz
3307988 Jun 4 18:14 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniFrameworks-1998E3-OSM-NIS.pkg.tar.gz
1584230 Jun 4 18:08 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniFrameworks-1998E3-RDR2-IP.pkg.tar.gz
272693 Jun 4 11:40 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniPlugIns-3.0b7-OSM-NIS.pkg.tar.gz
156262 Jun 4 09:42 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniPlugIns-3.0b7-RDR2-IP.pkg.tar.gz
1835889 Jun 4 11:41 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniWeb-3.0b7-OSM-NIS.pkg.tar.gz
1091305 Jun 4 09:42 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniWeb-3.0b7-RDR2-IP.pkg.tar.gz
118433 Jun 14 21:44 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPS.1.04.m.NIS.bs.tar.gz
286 Jun 14 21:44 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPS.1.04.m.NIS.bs.tar.gz.asc
7121 Jun 14 21:44 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPS.1.04.m.README
74793 Jun 15 00:42 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPS.1.04.r.PI.bs.tar.gz
286 Jun 15 00:42 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPS.1.04.r.PI.bs.tar.gz.asc
7132 Jun 15 00:42 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPS.1.04.r.README
1341 Jun 10 19:12 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/PrintExtensions.2.0.s.README
15821 Jun 10 19:12 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/PrintExtensions.2.0.s.tar.gz
228 Jun 29 13:23 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/mailto-PopOverRDR2-plugin.README
4856 Jun 29 13:23 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/mailto-PopOverRDR2-plugin.b.rdr2.PI.tar.gz
6138 Jun 29 13:23 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/mailto-PopOverRDR2-plugin.s.rdr2.tar.gz
1303621 Jun 25 09:44 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/unix/apache.1.2.6.3.NIHS.b.tar.gz
1357 Jun 25 09:44 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/unix/apache.1.2.6.3.README
3069 May 30 20:37 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4a.README
2000402 May 30 20:32 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4a.Utils.s.tar.gz
1844974 Jun 8 23:39 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4b.NIHS.pkg.b.tar.gz
318 Jun 8 23:20 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4b.Source.README
1757076 Jun 8 23:16 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4b.Source.sd.tar.gz
951 Jun 8 22:58 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4b.Utils.README
1068 Jun 8 23:39 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4b.md5
1824310 Jun 24 22:22 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/preferences/PPP.preferences.1.1.NIHS.b.tar.gz
2839 Jun 24 22:22 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/preferences/PPP.preferences.1.1.README
--
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marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail)
>> Why should I tidy my room, when the whole world is in a mess ??? <<
From: genzo@s53.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Andreas Genz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Leiserer Luefter
Date: 1 Jul 1998 14:38:28 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
Message-ID: <6ndhl4$a8a$1@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de>
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hey!
gibt es zu dem luefter in meiner
schwarzen turbo color station adb
eine leisere alternative? die lautstaerke
stoert doch etwas die herrlich minimalistische
aestetik.
dank.
--
Andreas Genz
genzo@informatik.uni-bremen.de
From: Matthias Klose <doko@cs.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Leiserer Luefter
Date: 01 Jul 1998 19:53:59 +0200
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <78pvfpihjc.fsf@cs.tu-berlin.de>
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genzo@s53.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Andreas Genz) writes:
> gibt es zu dem luefter in meiner
> schwarzen turbo color station adb
> eine leisere alternative? die lautstaerke
> stoert doch etwas die herrlich minimalistische
> aestetik.
Pabst Luefter (z.B. bei Conrad) oder auch den vorhandenen Luefter
nicht schrauben, sondern mit Silikon "einkleben".
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: mounten von DOS-Platte
Date: 2 Jul 1998 12:01:58 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6nfsrm$b8i$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <6nbi9j$rqo$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <6nd1kv$cvs@iese.iese.fhg.de>
Holger Graudejus <graudeju@iese.fhg.de> wrote:
: In article <6nbi9j$rqo$1@laforge.toppoint.de>,
: smeyer@toppoint.de (Stephan Meyer) writes:
: >
: > Ich MUSS eine DOS-Platte im Single-Modus (boot: -s) einbinden
: > Die Festplatte haengt am 1 Controller als 2. Platte (IDE)
: >
: > Das Ganze auf Intel :-)
: >
: > Wie bekomme ich das DOS.fs mit Zugriff auf die Platte zum Laufen ?
: Schon mit DOS.util versucht? Das Ding liegt glaube ich in
: /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs/
Wollen wir den Stephan nicht laenger schmoren lassen. Hier die
Loesung :-)
Es ist zunaechst noetig, den nmserver zu starten, weil sich dosfs
sonst nicht initialisieren kann.
Wenn man Zugriff auf Floppy und oder Tapes braucht, kann man
auch noch driverLoader abfahren. Evtl. ist das hier noetig,
wegen 2.Platte am was weiss ich Controller.
/usr/etc/nmserver
/usr/etc/driverLoader a # optional
cd /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs/
./DOS.util -m sd0 /mountpoint fixed writable
(im Singleuser-Mode bietet sich uebrigens die zsh an).
Viel Spass dabei.
P.S.: Ich habe es noch nie erlebt, dass man eine NeXTSTEP-Kiste
komplett haette neu installieren muessen. Ich habe bisher jede Buechse
im Singleuser-Mode wieder auf die Fuesse gekriegt. Aber evtl. ist das
Retten der Daten auf die DOS-Partition die schnellere Loesung.
Evtl. hilft auch, Singleuser zu booten und kaputte Files von der CD wieder
rueberzukopieren.
Gruesse,
Axel
--
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kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: MiniDIN8 <-> SUB25 seriell ?!
Date: 2 Jul 1998 14:30:21 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence GmbH (http://www.pop.de)
Message-ID: <01bda5c5$f72cf160$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
Hallo,
ich habe mir gestern ein serielles Kabel für meine NeXt-Station
geloetet. Meine Verbindungen (Pinbelegung) sehen wie folgt aus.:
MiniDIN8 SUB25 (RS232)
-------------------------------
1 - - - - - - - - 20
2 - - - - - - - - - 8
3 - - - - - - - - - 2
4 - - - - - - - - - 7
5 - - - - - - - - - 3
6 - - - - - - - - - 4
8 - - - - - - - - - 5
Das Kabel IST auf Kontakt und Kurzschluesse geprueft.!!!
Nun wollte ich einen einfachen getty probieren, um zu sehen,
ob die Verbindung funktioniert.
In /etc/ttys habe ich ttyda (mit ttydfa habe ich es auch probiert)
"dialup" und "on" gesetzt. Nach einem kill -HUP 1 sollte der getty
normalerweise anspringen und das Modem auf AutoAnswer konfigurieren.
TUT's NICHT!!!
Der getty laeuft in der Prozessliste, nur das Modem macht nichts.
Muss ich die seriellen Anschluesse der Station irgendwie
aufwecken,anstossen,anbeten, damit sie laufen ?
Wo liegt mein Fehler ?!
Gruss,
Stephan
From: tomi@objectfarm.org (Tomi Engel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: STEPeople Treff am 6.7.98 in Nürnberg
Date: 2 Jul 1998 15:16:59 GMT
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <6ng89b$qdm$1@rznews.rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
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Hallo allerseits,
am Montag den 6.7. gibt es im Raum Nürnberg-Fürth-Erlangen wieder ein
STEPtreff der OPENSTEP-Rhapsody User Gruppe STEPeople. Themen diesesmal sind:
- WebObjects
- Rhapsody DR2 und MacOS X
- NEXTTOYOU 2.98
- Apple PowerBook G3 Series
Wer Interesse hat kommt um 20:00 in den Tagungsraum der Firma H@RC
Infosystems, Sulzbacher Str. 41, 90489 Nürnberg. Bei Fragen bitte an Tomi
Engel <tomi@objectfarm.org> wenden.
Aloha
Tomi
P.S. Ich bringe ein paar Packungen Schokoeis mit !
_________________________________________________________
Tomi Engel, Tomi@ObjectFarm.org (NeXTMail welcome)
Apple Rhapsody info:
http://www.ObjectFarm.org/TheMerger/
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: MiniDIN8 <-> SUB25 seriell ?!
Date: 2 Jul 1998 16:29:06 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6ngcgi$ren$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <01bda5c5$f72cf160$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
Stephan Meyer <meyers@ppi.de> wrote:
[...]
: "dialup" und "on" gesetzt. Nach einem kill -HUP 1 sollte der getty
: normalerweise anspringen und das Modem auf AutoAnswer konfigurieren.
: TUT's NICHT!!!
: Der getty laeuft in der Prozessliste, nur das Modem macht nichts.
wenn Du den normalen NeXT-getty verwendest, macht der gar nichts.
Das Modem musst Du schon 'von Hand' auf auto-answer stellen.
Wenn DTR am Modem nicht angeht, hast Du ein Problem, aber sonst
schien ja alles richtig zu sein. ttydfa empfiehlt sich uebrigens
ueber ttyda.
--
Axel Habermann
kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: MiniDIN8 <-> SUB25 seriell ?!
Date: 2 Jul 1998 16:30:06 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6ngcie$ren$2@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <01bda5c5$f72cf160$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
Stephan Meyer <meyers@ppi.de> wrote:
[...]
Ach ja, ein Eintrag in /etc/gettytab kann auch nicht schaden.
--
Axel Habermann
kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: "Simon. Laule" <simon@cs.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Digitale Kameras und NeXT
Date: 2 Jul 1998 17:48:27 GMT
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Gerriet M. Denkmann <gerriet@hazel.north.de> wrote:
: Welche digitale Kamera funktioniert mit meinem NeXT?
: Die Sony Mavica speichert im jpg Format auf Disketten, hat aber relativ
: wenige Pixel (640 x 480 oder so) und ist dafuer recht teuer.
: Welche anderes Kamera hat also einen seriellen Ausgang und ein
: Treiberprogramm im Sourcecode oder eine vollstaendige Dokumentation?
: Irgendjemand wird doch sicher schon mit dem NeXT photographieren!
: Gruss
: Gerriet.
Dummerweise sagt NextAnswers nichts darueber ob der PCMCIA Treiber
auch ATA-Flash Karten (das sind Flash Karten, die nach aussen einen
IDE Controller simulieren) unterstuetzt.
Wenn die Unterstuetzung da waere, wuerde ich die Fuji DS300
empfehlen. Ist ziemlich teuer, aber jede Mark wert.
Die Kamera speichert direkt im JPEG Format auf ATA Flash Karten.
Mit 2 Karten und einem Laptop kann man bis zum Ende der
eingebauten Festplatte knipsen.
Ach ja, die Kamera macht 1280*1000 Pixel, dh fuers WEB
kann man noch 2* vergroessern, fuer den Druck besser
verkleinern.
bg,
Simon.
From: agrewe@efi-nms.de (Andreas Grewe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Fonts konvertieren/installieren
Date: 3 Jul 1998 10:27:21 GMT
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Hallo Font-Experten,
ich möchte gern ein paar PostScript Fonts vom Mac auf meine OPENSTEP-Maschine
übertragen. Gibt's da eine einfache Möglichkeit?
Ich habe eine Diskette mit MAC-Fonts bekommen, bei der zu jedem Font drei
Dateien existieren:
Font
Font.afm
Font.scr
Lediglich in Font.afm steht was drin. Die beiden anderen sind leer (0 Byte).
Wozu werden die denn normalerweise benötigt?
Gruß
Andreas
From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: mounten von DOS-Platte
Date: 3 Jul 1998 10:10:21 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence GmbH (http://www.pop.de)
Message-ID: <01bda66a$cebd5260$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
References: <6nbi9j$rqo$1@LaForge.toppoint.de>
Hmm, danke Axel erstmal fuer Deine "erloesende" Nachricht.
Leider funktioniert das Ganze nicht.!
Wenn ich mit DOS.util versuche, hd1a zu mounten, wobei DOS.util daraus
rhd1a macht, bekomme ich eine Fehlermeldung, die auf einen fehlerhaften
Label der Platte
eingeht (genau habe ich das nicht mehr im Kopf.)
Ich habe dann unter Windows der Platte tatsaechlich ein Label verpasst,
wobei ich nicht weiss, ob der Fehler damit zusammenhaengt.
ES DRUCKT immernoch nicht... !!!
Die Dos-Partition auf der Nextplatte (hd0a) habe ich schon neu formatiert.
Mit welcher Zeile MUESSTE sie denn funktionieren ?
Noch ein Phaenomen.: Als ich DOS.util mehmals hintereinander (genauer
Ablauf nicht mehr bekannt) aufrief, lief auch der mountvorgang, das heisst,
bei Aufruf von -usr/etc/mount bekam ich den Eintrag von rhd1a korrekt mit
Dos-Filesystem dargestellt, doch bleibt mein mointpoint leer.!!!
bye
Stephan
Langsam aber sicher werde ich wahnsinnig...
From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Keine Musik von CD ?
Date: 3 Jul 1998 10:42:13 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence GmbH (http://www.pop.de)
Message-ID: <01bda66f$42b6d160$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
Tach,
gestern habe ich mal eine Musik-CD in ein externes (uralt,langsam)
0,003x-CD-Laufwerk von SUN gesteckt; PlayCD hat die Tracks auch erkannt und
begonnen,
das Musikstueck abzuspielen. Doch HOEREN konnte ich nichts.
Systemsounds funktionieren jedoch...
Dass es am CD-Laufwerk liegt, moechte ich auch nicht glauben, da von dort
ja nur die Daten kommen... Iss watt kaputt ??
BTW.: Ich habe den Verdacht, dass meine seriellen Anschluesse nicht
funktionieren (Ein getty bringt beim Modem die DTR-Leuchte nicht zum
Leuchten)... Haengt da was mit der Soundgeschichte zusammen ??
ICH WILL MUSIK!!!!
Stephan
From: Richard Scholz <richard@REMOVETHISsubito.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Keine Musik von CD ?
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 13:35:52 +0200
Organization: IPF.net - Frankfurt, Germany
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Stephan Meyer wrote:
>
> Tach,
>
> gestern habe ich mal eine Musik-CD in ein externes (uralt,langsam)
> 0,003x-CD-Laufwerk von SUN gesteckt; PlayCD hat die Tracks auch erkannt und
> begonnen,
> das Musikstueck abzuspielen. Doch HOEREN konnte ich nichts.
> Systemsounds funktionieren jedoch...
>
> Dass es am CD-Laufwerk liegt, moechte ich auch nicht glauben, da von dort
> ja nur die Daten kommen... Iss watt kaputt ??
Moin
Ganz so einfach ist das Abspielen von CD's nicht. Das PlayCD sorgt
dafür, daß das CDROM die CD abspielt, allerdings damit der Sound vom
Laufwerk aus weitergeschickt oder sogar hörbar wird, ist noch mehr
nötig.
Es gibt da mehrere Alternativen:
- Schliess einen Lautsprecher an den Kopfhörerausgang des CDROM
Laufwerks an.
Das ist die primitivste Lösung. Geht immer. Wenn auch nicht gerade
elegant.
- Falls das CDROM Laufwerk ein Toshiba 3401 oder besser ist (fällt wohl
aus bei
3x speed), probier mal play3401 aus. Das Teil liest die Tracks digital
aus, und
spielt sie selbst ab.
Vorrausgesetzt du hast keine schwarze Hardware:
- Schliess den internen Audio Ausgang des CDROMs an einan dafür
vorgesehenen Eingang
der Soundkarte an und stell den Mixer der Soundkarte so ein, daß er
den Ton auch durchläßt.
Es hängt von der Soundkarte ab, ob sie das schon per Default tut, oder
ob Du
nachhelfen mußt. Z.B. gabs da für die ProAudioSpektrum ein Bundle für
Preferences
plus Treiberpatch.
>
> BTW.: Ich habe den Verdacht, dass meine seriellen Anschluesse nicht
> funktionieren (Ein getty bringt beim Modem die DTR-Leuchte nicht zum
> Leuchten)... Haengt da was mit der Soundgeschichte zusammen ??
Wohl kaum. Aber bei Intel Hardware ist alles möglich.
Richard
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Keine Musik von CD ?
Date: 3 Jul 1998 11:51:31 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6nigk3$gqd$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <01bda66f$42b6d160$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
"Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de> wrote:
>gestern habe ich mal eine Musik-CD in ein externes (uralt,langsam)
>0,003x-CD-Laufwerk von SUN gesteckt; PlayCD hat die Tracks auch erkannt und
>begonnen,
>das Musikstueck abzuspielen. Doch HOEREN konnte ich nichts.
>Systemsounds funktionieren jedoch...
Kopfhoerer reinstecken, oder Verstaerker an die Cinch-Buchsen anschliessen.
>BTW.: Ich habe den Verdacht, dass meine seriellen Anschluesse nicht
>funktionieren (Ein getty bringt beim Modem die DTR-Leuchte nicht zum
>Leuchten)... Haengt da was mit der Soundgeschichte zusammen ??
Nein.
>ICH WILL MUSIK!!!!
Kann ich verstehen.. mit Aerosmith programmiert sichs besser, ausserdem
blendet es das Gequassel aus dem Buero nebendran aus :-)
Rgds, Chris
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From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Mono ---> Color ? 25Mhz ---> 33Mhz ?
Date: 3 Jul 1998 12:44:42 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence GmbH (http://www.pop.de)
Message-ID: <01bda680$5ed9d200$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
Hallo,
ist es möglich:
- eine Monostation durch einfaches Wechseln des Mainboards
zu einer Turbo.Station zu machen und...
- Eine Monostation durch auswechseln des Mainboards und des Monitors zu
einer ColorStation zu machen ?
Kurz gesagt: sind die Ausstattungen der Rechner "part"-kompatibel ?
Gruss,
Stephan
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Mono ---> Color ? 25Mhz ---> 33Mhz ?
Date: 3 Jul 1998 13:01:10 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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"Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de> wrote:
>ist es möglich:
>- eine Monostation durch einfaches Wechseln des Mainboards
> zu einer Turbo.Station zu machen und...
Das muesste gehen, fals sie beide jeweils ADB resp non ADB sind.
Krieg ich dann die uebrigen 25 Mhz Bauteile? :-) Caveat: der
Speicher kann unterschiedlich sein, je nachdem, wie alt die
25er Maschine ist.
>- Eine Monostation durch auswechseln des Mainboards und des Monitors zu
>einer ColorStation zu machen ?
Colorstation hat ein groesseres Netzteil und einen staerkeren
Leufter. Wenn du die auch noch austauschst <zuck achsel>, was
ist dann ueberhaupt noch uebrig?
Rgds, Chris
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From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Fonts konvertieren/installieren
Date: 3 Jul 1998 12:55:54 GMT
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In <6nibm9$dt6$1@queens.netuse.de> Andreas Grewe wrote:
> Hallo Font-Experten,
>
> ich möchte gern ein paar PostScript Fonts vom Mac auf meine
OPENSTEP-Maschine
> übertragen. Gibt's da eine einfache Möglichkeit?
>
> Ich habe eine Diskette mit MAC-Fonts bekommen, bei der zu jedem Font drei
> Dateien existieren:
>
> Font
> Font.afm
> Font.scr
>
> Lediglich in Font.afm steht was drin. Die beiden anderen sind leer (0
Byte).
> Wozu werden die denn normalerweise benötigt?
Die sind nicht leer, nur ist die Info auf der 'Resource'-Seite. Also klappt
die Konvertierung nur wenn Du sie auf einem HFS (sprich Mac-Diskette/Platte)
Medium hast. Im 'Font' ist der PS-Zeichensatz drin (der dann auch gewandelt
werden soll), in der 'Font.afm' ist die Metrik drin und in der 'Font.scr'
ziemlich sicher der Mac-Screenfont (der Dir auf dem NeXT nicht weiterhilft).
Du kannst sie (also den PS-Anteil: 'Font') mit meinem FontConvert (siehe
http://www.this.net/~frank/download.html ) wandeln, ueblicherweise kann der
das ganz gut...
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From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Keine Musik von CD ?
Date: 3 Jul 1998 13:01:46 GMT
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In <6nigk3$gqd$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> >ICH WILL MUSIK!!!!
>
> Kann ich verstehen.. mit Aerosmith programmiert sichs besser, ausserdem
> blendet es das Gequassel aus dem Buero nebendran aus :-)
Zum Koden nur Van Halen... :-)
Forgive me father
For I have sinned
I've been through hell and back again
Shook hands with Mr. Gates
Looked him in the eye
Look like a long lost friend
Anything you want
Any dirty deeds
He's got everything
Except what I really need
Keepin' me temporary satisfied
But every app I tried
Filled my disk up inside
Or felt not like mine
Yeah the search goes on
The more I look
My world keeps getting smaller
Staring at the SUN
Searching for the light
Almost ended up blinded
Some only see
What they want to see
Claining victory
Oh but that's not me
Give me Truth
Give me something REAL
I just want to feel
Like it's
NeXT all NeXT
Oh really NeXT, all NeXT
C'mon give me something
Something that's NeXT, all NeXT, all NeXT
NeXT, all NeXT
All the words on the WALL(1)
Look the same in the MIRROR(1)
Every riddle
Every clue
You got MacOSX in the East
You got NT in the West
Christ, what a man to do?
They'll find a cure for anything
Just kill the pain
Numb my brain
We see a man
Speaking the word of Jobs
Provin' to be a fraud
His own chruch applauds
Stop lookin' out
Start lookin' in
Let NeXT be your own best friend
Stand up and say
Hey! This is NeXT
All NeXT, all NeXT, all NeXT
...
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From: robert@iamexwi.unibe.ch (Philippe Robert)
Organization: Dept. of CS, University of Berne, Switzerland
Subject: V: NeXTstation Turbo Color
Message-ID: <359ce1e4.0@news.unibe.ch>
Date: 3 Jul 98 13:51:32 GMT
Hi!
Verkaufe eine NeXTstation Turbo color mit 32Meg RAM, einer 730er Platte, OPENSTEP
4.1 Dev installiert, SoundBox, Maus, Keyboard, ... etc. alles in Topzustand.
Ach ja, ein BNC <-> NeXT Moni Adapter ist auch dabei!
Preisvorstellung?!
-Phi
PS: Muss in Bern oder Zuerich abgeholt werden!
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From: r.sokoll@intershop.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Totoal offtopic (was: Re: Keine Musik von CD ?)
Date: 4 Jul 1998 12:38:24 GMT
Organization: INTERSHOP Communications
Message-ID: <slrn6ps8fk.cap.r.sokoll@linux2.intershop.de>
References: <01bda66f$42b6d160$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de> <6nigk3$gqd$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <6niknq$rf6$2@news.seicom.net>
Frank M. Siegert <frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de> wrote:
> Zum Koden nur Van Halen... :-)
[...]
> All NeXT, all NeXT, all NeXT
Yours, all yours ;-))
Rainer
From: smeyer@toppoint.de (Stephan Meyer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Hardwarediagnose ?
Date: 5 Jul 1998 20:39:28 +0200
Organization: Toppoint e.V.
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Message-ID: <6noh90$3lv$1@LaForge.toppoint.de>
Hallo,
gibt es ein Programm, welches bei meiner Station die Anschluesse
(Netzwerk, serielle Schnittstellen) ueberpruefen kann ?
Ich habe den starken Verdacht, dass diese NICHT funktionieren.
Mein uucp bekomme ich nicht dazu, das Modem anzusprechen, auch getty versagt
seinen Dienst.
Gibt es da einen zentralen Chip, der die i/o kontrolliert und eventuell
defekt sein koennte ?
gruss
Stephan
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From: smeyer@toppoint.de (Stephan Meyer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Hardwarediagnose ?
Date: 5 Jul 1998 21:24:06 +0200
Organization: Toppoint e.V.
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hmm, vielleicht bin ich nur zu dumm fuer diese Welt ?
gearde sehe ich, dass ich mir mein serielles Kabel
MiniSUB8--->SUB25 zwar richtig geloetet habe, doch
die Station nach RS-423 arbeitet, mein Modem jedoch
(wie heute wohl ueblich) mit RS232.
Die Verkabelungen dieser beiden "Standards" stimmen zwar
ueberein, doch MUSS es ja eine Kompatibilitaetsbremse geben
(denk ich mir als RS-Laie)...
Gibt es denn Umsetzer von 423 nach 232 ?
Gruss
Stephan
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Mono ---> Color ? 25Mhz ---> 33Mhz ?
Date: 5 Jul 1998 20:48:29 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6nooqt$3a0$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
[...]
: Colorstation hat ein groesseres Netzteil und einen staerkeren
: Leufter. Wenn du die auch noch austauschst <zuck achsel>, was
: ist dann ueberhaupt noch uebrig?
Das stimmt nicht. Ich habe schon oefters Netzteile Color<->Mono
getauscht. Keine Probleme. Die Monostation hat nur eine wesentlich
hoehere Leistungsaufnahmae auf den +/-12V fuer den Monomonitor.
Axel
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Hardwarediagnose ?
Date: 5 Jul 1998 20:49:16 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Stephan Meyer <smeyer@toppoint.de> wrote:
: hmm, vielleicht bin ich nur zu dumm fuer diese Welt ?
: gearde sehe ich, dass ich mir mein serielles Kabel
: MiniSUB8--->SUB25 zwar richtig geloetet habe, doch
: die Station nach RS-423 arbeitet, mein Modem jedoch
: (wie heute wohl ueblich) mit RS232.
: Die Verkabelungen dieser beiden "Standards" stimmen zwar
: ueberein, doch MUSS es ja eine Kompatibilitaetsbremse geben
: (denk ich mir als RS-Laie)...
: Gibt es denn Umsetzer von 423 nach 232 ?
Sind nicht noetig, da kompatibel.
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: DATEN fuer 21" Monitor
Message-ID: <EvMvpu.BDI@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <3594EF09.2F67@ponton.de>
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:08:18 GMT
In article <3594EF09.2F67@ponton.de> Joachim <joachim@ponton.de> writes:
> Berichtigung: Der Monitor hat 21"
>
Macht nichts: nur die Schirmflaeche ist groesser!
P.S.: Wenn du an's Verkaufen denkst, sag mir deinen Preis!
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: NS 3.3 auf Schwarze Hardware
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Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
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Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:23:48 GMT
In article <6n29vc$idj$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> smeyer@toppoint.de (Stephan
Meyer) writes:
> Tach,
>
> ich moechte meine Station endlich mal reaktivieren,
> da meine Intel-Installation momentan "Zicken" macht.
>
> Auf der Station laeuft zur Zeit ein mehr oder weniger vollstaendiges
> 3.2, das moechte ich vollstaendig ersetzen durch 3.3. Ich habe
> KEIN SCSI.CDROM, so dass mir nur der Weg einer Netzwerk-Installation
> bleibt.
>
> Frage: Ich stelle mir die Angelegenheit so vor, dass auf dem
> Gegenrechner nicht unbedingt NS verlangt wird, sondern "nur" ein
> CD-ROM-Zugang.
>
NeXT wuerde niemals seine Hand dafuer auch nur in eine Kerzenflamme
gehalten haben aber ich hab' sowas mal selbst gemacht!
Du musst eine Maschine haben, die ein Unix Filesystem (kein ISO 9660!) von
CD lesen kann (bei NT habe ich da allerdings so meine Zweifel, selbst ein
Linux kann das nur mit zusaetzlicher Software) und einen NFS-Deamon hat.
Wenn du dann als 'root' einloggst und einen NFS-Mount von der CD auf dem
anderen System hinkriegst kann man NS 3.3-Upgrade auch von dem NFS machen.
Man geht dann einfach auf das Verzeichnis und laesst Upgrader.app von dort
laufen...
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: DATEN fuer 19" Monitor
Message-ID: <EvMvKG.BAJ@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <3593A147.301C@ponton.de>
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:05:04 GMT
In article <3593A147.301C@ponton.de> Joachim <joachim@ponton.de> writes:
> Ich bin seit ein par Monaten stolzer Besitzer eines Next Turbo
> Color Station mit angeschlossenem 19" Festfrequenzmonitor Type
> CM2197AS3NE. Alles l uft wunderbar. Ich w rde den Monitor nur
> gerne auch an einem Linuxrechner mit X Terminal und KDE Desktop
> betreiben. Adapterkabel mit 15 Pol. VGA Stecker hab ich schon.
> Ich m te nur die technischen Eckdaten haben (Aufl sung,
> Bildwiederholfrequenz Horizontal und Vertikal Ablenkfrequenzen)
> sowie eine Belegung der Eingangsbuchse.
>
Alle NeXTs hatten 1120 x 832 x 62 Hz non-interlace mit Synch auf Gruen.
Steckerbelegung: R, 10 leere Pins, G, B
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: mounten von DOS-Platte
Date: 6 Jul 1998 09:10:24 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6nq4a0$al210@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6nbi9j$rqo$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <01bda66a$cebd5260$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
Achtung: Nicht-NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP- (also UNIX-) Partitionen werden unter
NS/OS als '/dev/(r)hd1h' ('h' nicht 'a') angesprochen. Nur NS/OS-
Partitionen innerhalb(!) einer FDISK-NS/OS-Partition oder falls gar keine
DOS-/FDISK-Partitionierung vorhanden ist heissen '(r)hd1a, ...b, ...c, etc.'
Manche Programme ('disk'-Kommando fuer 'Label-Abfrage') 'verzeihen' einen
anderen Buchstaben und arbeiten richtig, viele nicht. Ich vermute, das auch
DOS.util dazu gehoert.
Also Partition '/dev/(r)hd1h' versuchen!
Der bemaengelte 'Label' ist sicherlich nicht ein DOS/WIN-Plattenname
sondern die spezielle 'Markierung' fuer eine NS/OS-Platte bzw NS/OS-
FDISK-Partition einer Festplatte. Sie sollte fuer NS/OS bei und mit
/dev/(r)hd1a zu finden sein.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: mounten von DOS-Platte
Date: 6 Jul 1998 12:51:23 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence GmbH (http://www.pop.de)
Message-ID: <01bda8dc$c91e0060$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
References: <6nbi9j$rqo$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <01bda66a$cebd5260$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de> <6nq4a0$al210@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
H.-R. Oberhage <phy070@spo109> schrieb im Beitrag
<6nq4a0$al210@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>...
>
> Also Partition '/dev/(r)hd1h' versuchen!
Ja, vielen Dank.! Leider(!) kam diese Antwort einen Tag zu spaet, denn am
Sonntag
habe ich, den wertvollen Daten hinterherweinend, eine Neuinstallation
"druebergebuegelt".
Nun weiss ich momentan noch nicht, ob ich mich schwarz aergern soll,
oder die Traenenkanaele aktiviere ... :-)
Gruss,
Stephan
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Subject: NeXT crash durch Linux-Rechner?
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35a0d825.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 6 Jul 98 13:59:01 GMT
Hallo.
Ist folgendes richtig?
In einem NeXTpool (schwarze Maschinen, NS3.3) mit einem NFS-Server und
einigen Clients (alle mit netten IP-Addressen, die dem Server bekannt sind)
wird ein Client abgeschaltet und abgehaengt.
Stoepselt man jetzt einen (unauthorisierten) Linuxrechner mit der gleichen
IP-Addresse des abgeschaltenen Client an das Netz und wartet ein paar
Stunden, stuerzt der Server mit panic ab.
Die Frage ist: Kann der Server wegen des Linuxrechners abstuerzen?
Genauere Angaben ueber das Linux kann ich leider nicht machen.
Danke fuer jeden Hinweis
Sven
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: mounten von DOS-Platte
Date: 6 Jul 1998 14:23:23 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6nqmkr$al214@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6nbi9j$rqo$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <01bda66a$cebd5260$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de> <6nq4a0$al210@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> <01bda8dc$c91e0060$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
Stephan Meyer (meyers@ppi.de) wrote:
: Ja, vielen Dank.! Leider(!) kam diese Antwort einen Tag zu spaet, denn am
: Sonntag
: habe ich, den wertvollen Daten hinterherweinend, eine Neuinstallation
: "druebergebuegelt".
:
: Nun weiss ich momentan noch nicht, ob ich mich schwarz aergern soll,
: oder die Traenenkanaele aktiviere ... :-)
Sorry :-(, ich hab' so schnell gepostet, wie ich konnte :-).
Gruss,
Ruediger
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT crash durch Linux-Rechner?
Date: 6 Jul 1998 15:27:39 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6nqqdb$al215@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <35a0d825.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Sven Droll (sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de) wrote:
: Hallo.
:
: Ist folgendes richtig?
:
: In einem NeXTpool (schwarze Maschinen, NS3.3) mit einem NFS-Server und
: einigen Clients (alle mit netten IP-Addressen, die dem Server bekannt sind)
: wird ein Client abgeschaltet und abgehaengt.
:
: Stoepselt man jetzt einen (unauthorisierten) Linuxrechner mit der gleichen
: IP-Addresse des abgeschaltenen Client an das Netz und wartet ein paar
: Stunden, stuerzt der Server mit panic ab.
:
:
: Die Frage ist: Kann der Server wegen des Linuxrechners abstuerzen?
Hm. Fuer mich nur vorstellbar, wenn die NeXT-Maschine Bestandteil einer
Netinfo-Domain ist/war und da insbesondere ein 'Clone-Server'. Netinfo
kommuniziert auf eigenen (TCP/IP) Ports mit seinen Kleinten und den
'Slave-Servern'. Da koennte es schon zu Problemen kommen. Dieser Port
ist nicht reserviert, und wenn dann 'zufaellig' Antworten von einem
anderen Prozess auf diesem System kommen (z.B. per dynamischer Zuordnung
zu rpc's) oder aber auch Antworten 'getriggert' werden, wird's merkwuerdig.
Auch koennte der Server (bei eingestellter automatischer Konfiguration)
versucht sein, 'seinen Knaben', dessen IP-Adresse er dann unter ganz anderer
Ethernet-(Mac-)Adresse kennt, endlich zu einer 'vernuenftigen' Konfiguration
aufzufordern, was ihm beim Linux-System mangels 'netinfo' kaum gelingen
duerfte.
Moeglich ist es also sicher, passieren sollte es aber wohl nicht (Ausnahme:
Slave-Server).
:
: Genauere Angaben ueber das Linux kann ich leider nicht machen.
Wuerden mir auch augenblicklich nichts nuetzen :-).
:
: Danke fuer jeden Hinweis
Na ja, es ist ein Versuch.
Gruss,
Ruediger
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From: hwr@pilhuhn.de (Heiko W.Rupp)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT crash durch Linux-Rechner?
Date: 6 Jul 1998 16:40:48 GMT
Organization: The Home Of The Pilhuhn
Message-ID: <6nqumg$7rg$3@snert.pilhuhn.de>
References: <35a0d825.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Sven Droll wrote:
|Die Frage ist: Kann der Server wegen des Linuxrechners abstuerzen?
Dem NeXT ist halt schlecht geworden.
--
See <a href="http://www.netbsd.org">NetBSD</a> for a multiplatform OS
Wer viel arbeitet, macht viele Fehler. Wer wenig arbeitet macht wenig Fehler.
Wer wenig Fehler macht wird befoerdert.
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT crash durch Linux-Rechner?
Date: 6 Jul 1998 20:10:08 GMT
Organization: InterNetNews at News.BelWue.DE (Stuttgart, Germany)
Message-ID: <6nrav0$mjl$1@news.BelWue.DE>
References: <35a0d825.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <6nqumg$7rg$3@snert.pilhuhn.de>
Heiko W.Rupp (hwr@pilhuhn.de) wrote:
: Sven Droll wrote:
: |Die Frage ist: Kann der Server wegen des Linuxrechners abstuerzen?
: Dem NeXT ist halt schlecht geworden.
Im Sinne von: Wie den deutschen Spielern; altersschwach, und dann
schwindlig gespielt ? ;-)
Gregor
From: thor@cs.tu-berlin.de (Thorsten Albrecht)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: CD-Brenner-Erfahrungen auf Mono Station?
Date: 7 Jul 1998 15:17:02 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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Hallo!
Diese Frage tauchte ja schon oefter hier auf, aber vielleicht hat sich in
der Zwischenzeit ja etwas getan. Hat jemand gute Erfahrungen z.B. mit
CD Designer gesammelt? Auf meiner 3. Partition ist naemlich noch ganz
viel Platz zum Audio-CD brennen....
Thorsten
From: smeyer@toppoint.de (Stephan Meyer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Haenger nach Einbau von Netzwerk_karte
Date: 7 Jul 1998 22:26:31 +0200
Organization: Toppoint e.V.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <6nu09n$49c$1@LaForge.toppoint.de>
Hallo,
meine Intel-Installation hat schon wieder einen schweren
Rueckschlag erlitten. (Installation ist FRISCH, und noch
nicht "rum"konfiguriert...)
Heute habe ich eine Netzwerkkarte installiert.!
Tja, beim naechsten hochfahren wurde sie erkannt,
nach der Bildschirmausgabe
"Setting Tape Block Size /dev/nrst0" (und /dev/nrst1)
wartet der Rechner eine Zeitlang, es kommt dann auch
die Meldung, dass ich CTRL-C druecken soll, weil kein Netzwerk gefunden
wurde... es geht also weiter mit laden...
Dann der Punkt "netinfo". Hier bleibt der Rechner unweigerlich haengen!!!
Es bewegt sich nichts mehr.
Was muss ich denn mit Netinfo machen, wenn ich die Karte installiert habe ?
Wie kann ich meinen Rechner (3.3) konfigurieren, damit ich ein Netzwerk
HABEN kann, der Computer aber auch hochfaehrt, wenn ich die Kiste mal
abgestoepselt habe. Die Netzwerkverbindung soll wie folgt aussehen:
Intel <-------> Station, also ein reines NeXT-Netzwerk.
Uebrigens, meine Station erzaehlt mir auch immer, dass kein Netzwerk
gefunden wurde...
Gibt es ein FAQ zu dem Thema, oder wer kann mir eine Konfigurationsanleitung
fuer beie Rechner geben ?!
Gruss
Stephan
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From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: CD-Brenner-Erfahrungen auf Mono Station?
Date: 8 Jul 1998 06:31:43 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
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References: <6nte5e$ngd$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
In article <6nte5e$ngd$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> thor@cs.tu-berlin.de
(Thorsten Albrecht) writes:
> Hallo!
> Diese Frage tauchte ja schon oefter hier auf, aber vielleicht hat
sich in
> der Zwischenzeit ja etwas getan. Hat jemand gute Erfahrungen z.B.
mit
> CD Designer gesammelt?
Nein, mit CD-Designer bin ich nicht in der Lage, Audio-CD s
zu brennen. Bei jedem letzten Stueck auf der Audio-CD liefert
das Programm beim Lesen Fehlermeldungen. Man kann dann hoechstens
eine CD ohne das letzte Lied kopieren. Beim Abspielen der
kopierten CD rauscht s dann manchmal (Fehler) obwohl nur mit
einfacher Geschwindigkeit und lokalem Plattencash geschrieben
wurde :-(
Daten CD s kann man damit erzeugen, obwohl der Brennvorgang beim
kleinsten Fehler sofort abgebrochen wird (auch wenn man auf
"Ignore" klickt).
Ciao
Martin
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT crash durch Linux-Rechner?
References: <35a0d825.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <6nqumg$7rg$3@snert.pilhuhn.de> <6nrav0$mjl$1@news.BelWue.DE>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35a330de.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 8 Jul 98 08:42:06 GMT
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) wrote:
>Heiko W.Rupp (hwr@pilhuhn.de) wrote:
>: Sven Droll wrote:
>: |Die Frage ist: Kann der Server wegen des Linuxrechners abstuerzen?
>
>: Dem NeXT ist halt schlecht geworden.
>
>Im Sinne von: Wie den deutschen Spielern; altersschwach, und dann
>schwindlig gespielt ? ;-)
ich dachte erfahren und Pech gehabt ... :-)
Sven
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Haenger nach Einbau von Netzwerk_karte
Date: 8 Jul 1998 11:34:48 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6nvlgo$6oo$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6nu09n$49c$1@LaForge.toppoint.de>
smeyer@toppoint.de (Stephan Meyer) wrote:
>Was muss ich denn mit Netinfo machen, wenn ich die Karte installiert habe ?
>
>Wie kann ich meinen Rechner (3.3) konfigurieren, damit ich ein Netzwerk
>HABEN kann, der Computer aber auch hochfaehrt, wenn ich die Kiste mal
>abgestoepselt habe. Die Netzwerkverbindung soll wie folgt aussehen:
Steht im Manual (troeste dich, ich bin unlaengst auch wieder drueber
gestolpert, weil man einfach annimmt dass das automatisch funktioniert,
so wie bei anderen Sachen auch).
Buegel eine neue netinfo drueber, und folge dann den Anweisungen in
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/SysAdminManual/11_MixedNet.rtfd.
Wichtig ist, dass du vorher nicht mit Netzwerk bootest, sondern erst
die Einstellungen mit HostManager macht. Ansonsten sucht der Rechner
nach einem Netinfo-Server, den es nirgendwo gibt.
Mit den oben beschriebenen Einstellungen bekommst du ein Peer to
Peer Netzwerk, wobei die Maschinen auch jeweils einzeln laufen.
Hoffe das hilft, frag wenn noch was unklar ist,
Chris
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From: mkozakowski@flightsimcanada.com (M.K.)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: FlightsimCanada.com
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 16:23:53 GMT
Message-ID: <35a39d16.1508165@news.bc1.com>
FlightsimCanada.com
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 18:42:11 -0700
From: Christian Metzger <100434.2720@compuserve.com>
Organization: private
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Subject: Sybase für NeXT
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Hallo,
ich habe eine Kopie von Sybase hier und versuche die auf meinem Cube zum
laufen zu bringen (ist leider ziemlich alt, Dateien sind von 1989,
Version 4.02). Nach der Erstellung der Master-DB kann der Server nicht
gestartet werden, da er mit einer Meldung über eine Page 1299 und
unkorrekte Log ID abbricht.
Zwei Fragen:
1. Kann das daran liegen, daß die Version zu alt ist? Wenn nein weiß
jemand eine Lösung?
2. Falls zu alt, kann mir jemand eine Version (muß wohl 4.6 gemäß
Nextstep Installation sein) verkaufen, die funktioniert?
Vielen Dank für eine Antwortim voraus!!
Christian Metzger
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Sybase =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= NeXT
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:16:32 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
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In <35A41FF3.61E6@compuserve.com> Christian Metzger wrote:>
Unter NS3.2 laeuft der alte Sybase Server (4.01) problemlos. Nur das
Admin-tool braucht einen kleinen Patch.
From: smeyer@toppoint.de (Stephan Meyer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Haenger nach Einbau von Netzwerk_karte
Date: 8 Jul 1998 22:38:32 +0200
Organization: Toppoint e.V.
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Hallo,
ich bin jetzt so vorgegangen, wie in dem 11_MixedNet.rtfd beschrieben ist.
Auf der Station bin ich in den Hostmanager/Lokal und habe die Einstellungen
entsprechend gemacht.
Danach bin ich noch in den Menuepunkt "Host/Neu" gegangen und habe meinen
Intelrechner schonmal eingetragen.
Der Neustart verlief problemlos...
Auf meiner Intel-Maschine wollte ich die gleiche Prozedur durchfuehren.
Die NeXT-installation war noch "warm"...
Ich habe die Netzwerkkarte noch nicht eingebaut.!
Die Einstellungen in Hostmanager habe dann entsprechend denen auf der
Station gemacht. Waehrend des Neustarts gab es die ersten Probleme
bei "File service daemons:" , dann pbc, inetd usw. Ich bin jeweils mit
Ctrl-C weitergekommen. Beim Umschalten in den Loginscreen blieb dieser
dunkel.
Mit einer bereinigten Netinfo-Datenbank habe ich den Spass(!) mit
dem Hostmanager nochmal begonnen, doch nur den lokalen Teil, und habe
brav neu gebootet, als ich die Einstellungen in "lokal" beendet hatte.
Es traten die gleichen Fehler wieder auf...
Was ist bei Intel anders, als bei der Station ?
Es hat doch nichts mit der fehlenden Netzwerkkarte zu tun ? Das kann
ich nicht glauben.
Gruss
Stephan
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: MailTIFFs-Datenbank Version 1.2 ist da
Date: 8 Jul 1998 22:26:27 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
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Hallo,
die NEXTTOYOU-MailTIFFs-Datenbank ist jetzt in der Version 1.2 veröffentlicht
worden und zu finden unter:
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/97.1-Fruehjahr/
MailTIFF.database/MailTIFF.database.1.2.b.NIHS.tar.gz
Bitte beachtet, daß beginnnend mit dieser Version zum Betrieb der
MailTIFFs-Datenbank das UNIX-Programm "convert" *zwingend* erforderlich ist.
Wenn Ihr convert noch nicht auf Eurem Rechner installiert habt, könnt Ihr es
Euch in dem Archiv MailTIFF.convert.1.0.b.NIHS.tar.gz besorgen.
Die wichtigste Neuerung ist, daß die MailTIFFS-Datenbank nun endlich Mail-
Bilder importieren kann, die von EnhanceMail bezogen wurden, da das brandneue
EnhanceMail.bundle 2.2 die erforderliche Schnittstelle implementiert hat. Um
dieses Zusammenspiel bestmöglich auszunutzen, hat die MailTIFFs-Datenbank
Version 1.2 jetzt die Fähigkeit, Mail-Bilder, die von EnhanceMail geholt
wurden und noch nicht im TIFF-Format vorliegen, in dieses zu wandeln. Dazu
benötigt sie das UNIX-Programm convert (siehe oben).
Alle Benutzer der MailTIFFs-Datenbank, die das neue EnhanceMail.bundle
Version 2.2 installieren, sollten ebenfalls die MailTIFFs-Datenbank
Version 1.2 installieren (und, falls nötig, das UNIX-Programm convert)!
Bitte beachtet, daß der Import-Mechanismus nur für Bilder funktioniert, die
von EnhanceMail geholt wurden, *nachdem* die neue EnhanceMail-Version 2.2
installiert worden ist. Daher ist es möglicherweise am besten, alle bislang
von EnhanceMail geholten Bilder in ~/Library/Mail/Images zu löschen und sie
mit EnhanceMail Version 2.2 erneut zu laden. Nur so stehen alle Bilder auch
für Euren Newsreader zur Verfügung.
Einige andere Verbesserungen der MailTIFFs-Datenbank Version 1.2:
- neue Option -b für andere Briefkasten-Ordner als ~/Mailboxes
- die Option -s tut jetzt, was sie soll
- temporäre Dateien in /tmp werden gelöscht, wenn sie nicht mehr gebraucht
werden
-----------------------------
Applikationen, die zur Zeit mit der NEXTTOYOU MailTIFFS-Datenbank kompatibel
sind:
Mail.app
Alexandra.app (Version 0.82.mod)
HNNews.app
RadicalNews.app
-----------------------------
Die MailTIFFs-Datenbank besteht aus mehreren UNIX-Programmen zur
Installation auf dem eigenen Rechner und einem zentralen
MailTIFFs-FTP-Archiv, das von der NEXTTOYOU unterhalten wird.
Der Vorteil im Vergleich zu bisherigen Lösungen ist, daß alles
vollkommen automatisch abläuft und man sich nach der Installation
(und der Einsendung des eigenen MailTIFFs) um nichts mehr kümmern
muß:
- fetchMailTIFFs holt automatisch in regelmäßigen Abständen neu
auf dem FTP-Server eingetroffene MailTIFFs auf den eigenen Rechner.
Wer von mehreren E-Mail-Adressen aus schreibt, kann auch entsprechende
Aliases auf den FTP-Server legen, die automatisch mit berücksichtigt
werden.
- mailDBupdate.in (das NeXTs mailDBupdate ersetzt und dessen
Funktionen in verbesserter Form übernimmt) sortiert die neuen Bilder
automatisch ein und trägt ggf. auch die Aliases-Adressen ein.
- mailDBupdate.in hat eine Schnittstelle zu EnhanceMail.bundle
(Version >=2.0beta7), so daß von dort geholte Bilder ebenfalls
berücksichtigt werden und auch dem Newsreader zur Verfügung stehen.
- mailDBupdate.in löscht veraltete MailTIFFs, die für einen
voreingestellten Zeitraum weder in den News noch in Mail benötigt
wurden
Auf diese Weise hat man jederzeit ein aktuelles Archiv von
Mail-Bildern, ohne sich um irgendetwas kümmern zu müssen.
Die Software ist genau beschrieben in NEXTTOYOU 1/1997, es liegt
ihr aber auch eine Kurzanleitung zur Installation bei.
In dem obigen Verzeichnis findet sich auch eine modifizierte Version
von Alexandra.app, die bereits mit der neuen MailTIFFs-Datenbank
zusammenarbeitet. Wir hoffen, daß weitere Newsreader folgen werden.
Euer eigenes MailTIFF schickt bitte mit dem Namen Nutzer@Adresse.tiff
per NeXTMail an MailTIFFs@nexttoyou.de. Genaue Hinweise zu dem
Format des MailTIFFs und ggf. der Aliases-Datei findet Ihr in dem
Software-Paket.
Wer also im Prinzip bereit ist, ein Bild von sich zu veröffentlichen,
den bitten wir herzlich, sich an der NEXTTOYOU-MailTIFFs-Datenbank
zu beteiligen!
Tschau
Uli
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Bitte aktualisiert Eure MailTIFFs-Datenbank-Eintraege!
Date: 8 Jul 1998 22:29:38 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
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Hallo,
seit die NEXTTOYOU vor über einem Jahr die MailTIFFs-Datenbank eingeführt hat,
ist eine Menge Zeit vergangen, und so sind etliche Einträge nicht mehr aktuell.
In den meisten Fällen, wenn sich einfach Eure E-Mail-Adresse geändert hat,
reicht es, eine neue Aliases-Datei (siehe unten) an die MailTIFFs-Datenbank
zu senden. Das gilt vor allem für diejenigen, die zur Spam-Abwehr ihre Usenet-
(Pseudo-)Adresse laufend ändern. Es besteht kein Risiko für Euch, wenn Ihr
der MailTIFFs-Datenbank Eure Pseudo-Adressen als Aliases auf Eure richtige
E-Mail-Adresse schickt!
Falls Ihr allerdings schon lange nichts mehr ins Usenent gepostet habt, das in
Zukunft aber wieder öfter wollt, ist es sinnvoll, erneut auch Euer Bild an die
MailTIFFs-Datenbank zu senden, da es dann vermutlich aus den lokalen Datenbaken
der meisten Benutzer gelöscht sein wird.
ANLEITUNG:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Das MailTIFF sollte ein Format von 64 × 64 Pixeln haben und
LZW-komprimiert sein. Nennt es
Nutzer@Adresse.tiff
(wobei Nutzer@Adresse Eure E-Mail-Adresse ist) und sendet es via
NeXTMail an
MailTIFFs@nexttoyou.de
Falls Ihr von mehr als einer E-Mail-Adresse aus schreibt, solltet
Ihr auch noch eine sogenannte Aliases-Datei beifügen, die Eure
alternativen E-Mail-Adressen auflistet. Diese Datei muß eine reine
ASCII-Datei sein mit dem Namen
Nutzer@Adresse.aliases
(wobei Nutzer@Adresse exakt dieselbe E-Mail-Adresse ist, die Ihr
zur Benennung des MailTIFFs verwendet habt). In diese Datei schreibt
bitte Eure alternativen E-Mail-Adressen, eine pro Zeile, und jede
Zeile mit *Return* abgeschlossen. Falls Ihr im Usenet Pseudo-Adressen
benutzt, um Spam abzuwehren (z.B. Nutzer@Adresse.NOSPAM), dann
tragt bitte auch diese Adressen in Eure Aliases-Datei ein. Damit
ist für Euch *kein* Risiko verbunden, aber auf diese Art können
auch Newsreader die MailTIFFs-Datenbank verwenden.
Ein Beispiel wäre:
SteveJobs@next.com.tiff
SteveJobs@next.com.aliases --> Das ist eine ASCII-Datei mit
den Zeilen:
SteveJobs@advisory.apple.com
Steve@microsoft.haters.net
SteveJobs@next.com.NOSPAM
SteveJobs@advisory.apple.com.NOSPAM
Steve@microsoft.haters.net.NOSPAM
Wenn Ihr ein neues Bild von Euch in der MailTIFFs-Datenbank wollt,
sendet einfach ein neues MailTIFF mit *genau demselben Namen* an
MailTIFFs@nexttoyou.de. Dieses MailTIFF ersetzt automatisch das
ältere in den MailTIFFs-Datenbanken aller Nutzer.
Wenn sich Eure E-Mail-Adresse ändert, sendet einfach eine neue
Aliases-Datei mit *genau demselben Namen* an MailTIFFs@nexttoyou.de.
Die neuen Adressen, die es enthält, werden automatisch in den
Aliases-Dateien aller Nutzer hinzugefügt.
Die NEXTTOYOU MailTIFFs-Datenbank besteht aus mehreren Programmen,
die man auf seinem Rechner installieren muß, und dem globalen
MailTIFFs-Server, den die NEXTTOYOU zur Verfügung stellt. Die
Datenbank erlaubt die automatische Verwaltung von MailTIFFs von
Nutzern aus dem Internet und sorgt dafür, daß die Bilder in Mail.app
und dafür vorbereiteten Newsreadern angezeigt werden. Die Programme
findet Ihr unter
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/97.1-Fruehjahr/
MailTIFF.database/MailTIFF.database.1.2.b.NIHS.tar.gz
Die folgenden NEWSREADER unterstützen zur Zeit die NEXTTOYOU MailTIFFs-
Datenbank:
Alexandra (version 0.82.mod)
HNNews
RadicalNews
NEXTTOYOU ist das deutschsprachige Magazin für Anwender von Apple- und NeXT-
Technologie. Die älteste NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Zeitschrift weltweit versteht sich
als Forum für OPENSTEP- und Yellow-Box-Anwender und -Interessierte; sie wendet
sich gleichermaßen an Einsteiger und Profis.
Nähere Informationen zur NEXTTOYOU gibt's im WWW unter
http://www.nexttoyou.de.
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: CD-Brenner-Erfahrungen auf Mono Station?
Message-ID: <1998Jul8.220606.2825@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
Organization: INDIVIDUAL NETWORK Berlin
References: <6nte5e$ngd$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <6nv3of$64j$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:06:06 GMT
Martin Oettle <martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de> wrote:
:> der Zwischenzeit ja etwas getan. Hat jemand gute Erfahrungen z.B.
: mit
:> CD Designer gesammelt?
: Nein, mit CD-Designer bin ich nicht in der Lage, Audio-CD s
: zu brennen. Bei jedem letzten Stueck auf der Audio-CD liefert
: das Programm beim Lesen Fehlermeldungen. Man kann dann hoechstens
: eine CD ohne das letzte Lied kopieren. Beim Abspielen der
: kopierten CD rauscht s dann manchmal (Fehler) obwohl nur mit
: einfacher Geschwindigkeit und lokalem Plattencash geschrieben
: wurde :-(
: Daten CD s kann man damit erzeugen, obwohl der Brennvorgang beim
: kleinsten Fehler sofort abgebrochen wird (auch wenn man auf
: "Ignore" klickt).
Der Fairness halber muss ich hier mal sagen, dass nicht alle Leute
derartige Probleme mit CD-Designer haben. Die Software wurde in
mehreren Versionen in der NEXTTOYOU besprochen; ein solches Problem
tauchte in den betreffenden Artikeln *nicht* auf.
Vielleicht sagt uns die Autorin der Artikel, Anke Ehlers, mehr? ;-)
Ingmar
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From: rode@hdi.de (Heinrich Rode)
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Subject: ATI XPERT @ Work-Treiberproblem
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 09:27:46 GMT
Organization: a customer of: aball Internet Netzdienste GmbH, Hannover + Berlin, Germany
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Hallo,
nach Einbau einer ATI XPERT @ Work 8 MB-AGP-Karte in meinen Pentium
II, 233 MHZ, ASUS P2L97S-Board habe ich Grafikkartentreiber-Probleme
unter OpenStep 4.2.
Als Treiber benutze ich 2528_ATIRageDisplayDriver.pkg.compressed.
Beim booten meldet der Treiber Speicherprobleme und schaltet in den
Standard-VGA-Modus.
Der selbe Rechner lief vorher mit einer Matrox Mistique 4MB-PCI unter
OpenStep 4.2 ohne Probleme.
Kann jemand helfen ?
H. Rode
heirnich.rode@nienburg-weser.de
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Haenger nach Einbau von Netzwerk_karte
Date: 9 Jul 1998 09:13:19 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <6o21jf$2bm2@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6nu09n$49c$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <6nvlgo$6oo$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <6o0lc8$o9f$1@LaForge.toppoint.de>
Stephan Meyer (smeyer@toppoint.de) wrote:
: Hallo,
:
: ich bin jetzt so vorgegangen, wie in dem 11_MixedNet.rtfd beschrieben ist.
: [...]
: Es hat doch nichts mit der fehlenden Netzwerkkarte zu tun ? Das kann
: ich nicht glauben.
Es muss nicht, kann aber. *Alle* PnP-Karten die 'falsch' oder 'nicht'
erkannt werden (z.B. auch Soundkarten) fuehren zu dem Verhalten, dass
das Login-Panel nicht erscheint - oder koennen zumindest dazu fuehren.
Daher sollte der Treiber fuer die Netzwerk-Karte auf jedenfall *nicht*
initialisert sein, d.h. es sollte keine Instance0.table darin und keinen
Eintrag in System.config davon geben; so wie es ist, wenn man eine Karte
mit Configure.app nicht bzw. wieder 'aus'-konfiguriert hat.
Der Frage, wie man diese Eintrage wieder entfernt, wenn man Configure.app
nicht zur Verfuegung hat - da kein Login -, koennen wir uns zuwenden,
falls dies erforderlich wird :-).
Falls es keine(!) ISA-(PnP-)Karte sondern eine PCI-Karte ist, habe ich
keine (so schnelle) Erklaerung dafuer.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: CD-Brenner-Erfahrungen auf Mono Station?
Date: 9 Jul 1998 09:21:28 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6o222o$2bm3@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6nte5e$ngd$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Thorsten Albrecht (thor@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote:
: Hallo!
: Diese Frage tauchte ja schon oefter hier auf, aber vielleicht hat sich in
: der Zwischenzeit ja etwas getan. Hat jemand gute Erfahrungen z.B. mit
: CD Designer gesammelt? Auf meiner 3. Partition ist naemlich noch ganz
: viel Platz zum Audio-CD brennen....
:
Doch, bis vor ganz kurzer Zeit hat bei uns das CD-Brennen mit einem
Yamaha-Breenner leidlich gut funktioniert (auf Intel-Basis, PPro 200).
Audio CD's sind nie 'so gut' geworden, aber mit den meisten Daten-CD's
gab es keine Probleme!
Lediglich mit gewissen 'langen' Dateinamen unter Linux, mehr erst
falls von Interesse.
Seit einem Firmware-Update haben wir allerdings Probleme! Ich muss
Herrn Gehle davon noch informieren! Die CD wird gebrannt, aber danach
kann sie weder der Brenner noch das 'normale' CD-Laufwerk lesen. Nicht
einmal das CD-ROM Dateisystem wird (mehr) erkannt (CDDesigner 1.4).
Der Firmware-Upgrade war von 1.0j auf 1.0m und dann 1.0n, aber selbst
ein Downgrade auf 1.0j, eine Kombination die vorher funktioniert hat,
liefert jetzt leider das 'falsche' Verhalten.
Insgesamt finde ich CDDesigner gut, wenn ich mir auch Verbesserungen
wuenschte. 'Von Hand' mittels 'mkisofs' hat das Brennen immer
fehlerlos geklappt (allerdings hat kein 'von Hand'-Versuch mehr nach
dem Up-/Downgrade Problem stattgefunden!).
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Haenger nach Einbau von Netzwerk_karte
Date: 9 Jul 1998 09:52:39 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence GmbH (http://www.pop.de)
Message-ID: <01bdab1f$4bc85d00$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
References: <6nu09n$49c$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <6nvlgo$6oo$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <6o0lc8$o9f$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <6o21jf$2bm2@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
H.-R. Oberhage <phy070@spo109> schrieb im Beitrag
<6o21jf$2bm2@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>...
>
> Daher sollte der Treiber fuer die Netzwerk-Karte auf jedenfall *nicht*
> initialisert sein, d.h. es sollte keine Instance0.table darin und keinen
Die Karte war nicht eingebaut, der Treiber von NeXTanswers war noch nicht
einmal entpackt :-), geschweige denn auf der Platte. Die Diskette (mit dem
Treiber) war auch nicht im Laufwerk...
>
> Falls es keine(!) ISA-(PnP-)Karte sondern eine PCI-Karte ist, habe ich
> keine (so schnelle) Erklaerung dafuer.
Es ist eine PCI-Karte... aber in diesem Fall fuer das "Fehlverhalten" nicht
relevant.
Gruss
Stephan
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Haenger nach Einbau von Netzwerk_karte
Date: 9 Jul 1998 12:30:00 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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References: <6nu09n$49c$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <6nvlgo$6oo$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <6o0lc8$o9f$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <6o21jf$2bm2@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) wrote:
>Daher sollte der Treiber fuer die Netzwerk-Karte auf jedenfall *nicht*
>initialisert sein, d.h. es sollte keine Instance0.table darin und keinen
>Eintrag in System.config davon geben; so wie es ist, wenn man eine Karte
>mit Configure.app nicht bzw. wieder 'aus'-konfiguriert hat.
>
>Der Frage, wie man diese Eintrage wieder entfernt, wenn man Configure.app
>nicht zur Verfuegung hat - da kein Login -, koennen wir uns zuwenden,
>falls dies erforderlich wird :-).
Naja, config=Default booten, und mit Configure.app den Netzwerkkarten-
treiber entfernen. Dann netinfo drueber, /etc/hostconfig nicht vergessen.
Dann testen, ob er bootet. Dann HostManager-Eintraege aendern, booten.
Dann Netzwerkkarte koonfigurieren, booten. Netzwerkkabel, ping. Dann
resolv.conf, booten, DNS testen. Und so weiter.
Wenn man mehrere Dinge auf einmal macht, beisst es einen meistens
in den Hintern, und man muss wieder von vorne anfangen. OPENSTEP
Intel ist halt kein iMac, den man einfach nur auspacken muss :-)
HTH, Chris
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From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Haenger nach Einbau von Netzwerk_karte
Date: 9 Jul 1998 12:50:03 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence GmbH (http://www.pop.de)
Message-ID: <01bdab38$16561360$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
References: <6nu09n$49c$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <6nvlgo$6oo$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <6o0lc8$o9f$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <6o21jf$2bm2@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> <6o2d48$qck$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> schrieb im
Beitrag <6o2d48$qck$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>...
> Naja, config=Default booten, und mit Configure.app den Netzwerkkarten-
> treiber entfernen. Dann netinfo drueber, /etc/hostconfig nicht vergessen.
> Dann testen, ob er bootet. Dann HostManager-Eintraege aendern, booten.
> Dann Netzwerkkarte koonfigurieren, booten. Netzwerkkabel, ping. Dann
> resolv.conf, booten, DNS testen. Und so weiter.
Meiner bootet ja schon nicht mehr nach den HostConfig-Aenderungen auf einer
brandneuen Installation
ohne eingesteckte(!) Netzwerkkarte...
Noch warm halt.!
Stephan
From: "l.c.fleigl" <lcf@uni-paderborn.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Falsche umlaute aus DosenRechner ?
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:57:16 +0200
Organization: uni-paderborn.de
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Hi,
habe NS3.2 auf schwarzer Hardware (englische Sprache, deutsche
Tasterur). Wenn ich ein Dokument bei mir schreibe und dann in die Uni
mitnehme oder andersherum, werden aus den Sonderzeichen immer andere
Sonderzeichen, die ich nicht gebrauchen kann.
Gibt es einen anderen ASCII code hier oder kann mir jemand die Loesung
verraten ?
thanx lars.
From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
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Subject: Matrox Produktiva
Date: 9 Jul 1998 13:17:26 GMT
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Gibt es schon einen Treiber?
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Falsche umlaute aus DosenRechner ?
Date: 9 Jul 1998 14:37:27 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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l.c.fleigl <lcf@uni-paderborn.de> wrote:
: Hi,
: habe NS3.2 auf schwarzer Hardware (englische Sprache, deutsche
: Tasterur). Wenn ich ein Dokument bei mir schreibe und dann in die Uni
: mitnehme oder andersherum, werden aus den Sonderzeichen immer andere
: Sonderzeichen, die ich nicht gebrauchen kann.
: Gibt es einen anderen ASCII code hier oder kann mir jemand die Loesung
: verraten ?
recode next:latin1
recode gibt's beim gnu-dealer in Deiner Naehe :-)
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From: r.sokoll@intershop.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Falsche umlaute aus DosenRechner ?
Date: 9 Jul 1998 14:24:20 GMT
Organization: INTERSHOP Communications
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l.c.fleigl <lcf@uni-paderborn.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> habe NS3.2 auf schwarzer Hardware (englische Sprache, deutsche
> Tasterur). Wenn ich ein Dokument bei mir schreibe und dann in die Uni
> mitnehme oder andersherum, werden aus den Sonderzeichen immer andere
> Sonderzeichen, die ich nicht gebrauchen kann.
ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/NEXTSTEP/public/unix/text/\
recode-3.4.NIHS.b.tgz
Gruß,
Rainer
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Haenger nach Einbau von Netzwerk_karte
Date: 9 Jul 1998 17:36:12 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6o2v2c$6ll$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6nu09n$49c$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <6nvlgo$6oo$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <6o0lc8$o9f$1@LaForge.toppoint.de> <6o21jf$2bm2@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> <6o2d48$qck$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <01bdab38$16561360$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
"Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de> wrote:
>
>
>Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> schrieb im
>Beitrag <6o2d48$qck$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>...
>
>> Naja, config=Default booten, und mit Configure.app den Netzwerkkarten-
>> treiber entfernen. Dann netinfo drueber, /etc/hostconfig nicht vergessen.
>> Dann testen, ob er bootet. Dann HostManager-Eintraege aendern, booten.
>> Dann Netzwerkkarte koonfigurieren, booten. Netzwerkkabel, ping. Dann
>> resolv.conf, booten, DNS testen. Und so weiter.
>
>Meiner bootet ja schon nicht mehr nach den HostConfig-Aenderungen auf einer
>brandneuen Installation
>ohne eingesteckte(!) Netzwerkkarte...
Du meinst hoffenlich Hostmanager?
Kratz.. hm. Probier doch mal Installation (mit eingebauter Karte),
dann Karte eintragen mit Configure, dann ohne Boot HostManager.
Wenn sich dasselbe Symptom zeigt, weiss ich auch nicht weiter.
Rgds, Chris
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From: root@p2net (Operator)
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Subject: Re: ATI XPERT @ Work-Treiberproblem
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In <35a48ba1.11217549@news.aball.de> Heinrich Rode wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> nach Einbau einer ATI XPERT @ Work 8 MB-AGP-Karte in meinen Pentium
> II, 233 MHZ, ASUS P2L97S-Board habe ich Grafikkartentreiber-Probleme
> unter OpenStep 4.2.
>
> Als Treiber benutze ich 2528_ATIRageDisplayDriver.pkg.compressed.
>
> Beim booten meldet der Treiber Speicherprobleme und schaltet in den
> Standard-VGA-Modus.
>
>
Das Problem ist erledigt,
bei den Auto Detect IDs im Configure war leider nicht der richtige Wert der
Karte (0x47421002) eingetragen. Hat ein bisschen gedauert (mehrmals booten),
bis ich es gemerkt habe, aber nach der Aenderung lief der Rechner mit 1280 x
1024 / 75 Hz - RGB 888/32 ;-)
Gruss
Heinrich Rode
email: heinrich.rode@nienburg-weser.de
From: cenk@trytec.bo.uunet.de (Cenk Suavi)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Grafik Probleme
Date: 10 Jul 1998 09:27:29 GMT
Organization: TryTec! Microsystems
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Hallo Leute !
Ich Habe bei mir Openstep 4.2 installirt und ich habe keinen Treiber für mein
Grafikkarte gefunden.
Ich weis das es für meine Karte keinen Treiber giebt. Ich habe eine STB riva
128 (NVida Riva).
Kennt einer von euch einen vergleichbaren treiber wo mit ich meine
grafikkarte einigermasen ansprechen kann ???!!! oder ist es
aussichtslos.........................? mit den standart Treibern habe ich nur
ein s/w Bild und das ist nicht so schön
Danke !!
___contact to:____
Cenk Suavi, TryTec! Microsystems, Unterstr. 91, 44892 Bochum
mailto: suavi@trytec.bo.uunet.de http://www.trytec.de
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Grafik Probleme
Date: 10 Jul 1998 15:51:41 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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cenk@trytec.bo.uunet.de (Cenk Suavi) wrote:
>Ich Habe bei mir Openstep 4.2 installirt und ich habe keinen Treiber für
mein
>Grafikkarte gefunden.
>Ich weis das es für meine Karte keinen Treiber giebt. Ich habe eine STB riva
>128 (NVida Riva).
>Kennt einer von euch einen vergleichbaren treiber wo mit ich meine
>grafikkarte einigermasen ansprechen kann ???!!! oder ist es
>aussichtslos.........................? mit den standart Treibern habe ich
nur
>ein s/w Bild und das ist nicht so schön
Ja, die Standart Treiber.. (Gruesse an die Redaktion! :-)
Sieht aus, als muesstest du dir selber einen schreiben. Ich persoenlich
wuerde es vorziehen, 200 Mark für eine neue Karte auszugeben, aber YMMV..
Rgds, Chris
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Date: 10 Jul 1998 17:59:00 +0100
From: nuppy@nuppy.harz.de (Niels Coelle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Message-ID: <6xbGne$xLiB@nuppy.harz.de>
Subject: Prob. mit neuem Board
Hallo alle zusammen!
Nach dem Einbau eines neuen Boards kann ich NS 3.3 (Intel) nicht mehr
installieren. Ich komme bis zum Einstellen des SCSI-Boards (2940 mit
Treiberversion 3.37) . Wenn er dann in die Grafik starten will, bleibt der
Bildschirm schwarz. Ausser dem Board hat sich noch der Prozessor geaendert
(jetzt Intel 233MMX). Alles andere ist gleich geblieben.
Bei dem Board handelt es sich um ein Gigabyte GA-586ATX mit dem Intel
430TX Chipsatz. In den NextAnswers habe ich nichts passendes gefunden. Es
gibt da zwar einen neueren Treiber fuer Intel824X0, da ich aber kein
funktionierendes NS habe, kann ich mir auch Diskette basteln, weil ich nur
die .compressed-Datei finde.
Ich bin ratlos.
Danke fuer Eure Hilfe
Niels
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From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Subject: sendmail
Message-ID: <Evw4oA.HB@vergil.ping.de>
Sender: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Organization: Black Box - NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:00:10 GMT
Nabend,
habe folgendes Problem,
offensichtlich hat bei meiner sendmail Konfiguration alles
soweit hingehauen, dass er wenn er online (ppp)
ist alle Mails richtig an den Mailhost schickt.
Ist der Link down kommt eine Fehlermessage.
Wie kriege ich ihn dazu, dass er bis
zum Befehl senmail -q alles in eine Que schreibt???
Danke
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Prob. mit neuem Board
Date: 10 Jul 1998 18:28:58 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6o5mha$78h$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <6xbGne$xLiB@nuppy.harz.de>
Niels Coelle <nuppy@nuppy.harz.de> wrote:
: Hallo alle zusammen!
: Nach dem Einbau eines neuen Boards kann ich NS 3.3 (Intel) nicht mehr
: installieren. Ich komme bis zum Einstellen des SCSI-Boards (2940 mit
: Treiberversion 3.37) . Wenn er dann in die Grafik starten will, bleibt der
: Bildschirm schwarz. Ausser dem Board hat sich noch der Prozessor geaendert
: (jetzt Intel 233MMX). Alles andere ist gleich geblieben.
: Bei dem Board handelt es sich um ein Gigabyte GA-586ATX mit dem Intel
: 430TX Chipsatz. In den NextAnswers habe ich nichts passendes gefunden. Es
: gibt da zwar einen neueren Treiber fuer Intel824X0, da ich aber kein
: funktionierendes NS habe, kann ich mir auch Diskette basteln, weil ich nur
: die .compressed-Datei finde.
: Ich bin ratlos.
Also, fuer die FAQ - was tun, wenn NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/Rhapsody nicht mehr startet, weil die Treiber verkehrt sind.
1) Booten mit 'config=Default' am boot: - prompt (das grosse 'D' beachten)
Falls das hilft, bekommt man ueblicherweise 640x480 in schwarz-weiss,
kann aber meist mit Configure.app die Treiber wieder richtig einstellen
oder neue einspielen.
2) Falls 'config=Default' nicht geht, weil die Default.tables falsch sind,
sollte man mit dem vi umgehen koennen. Mit '-s' am boot:-prompt kommt
man in den singleuser mode. Alles, was hier jetzt folgt ist potentiell
riskant und sollte daher nur von mutigen Zeitgenossen versucht werden, die
ungefaehr wissen, was sie tun.
(Fuer die, die's nicht wissen: vi dateiname. Cursor bewegen mit hjkl,
Zeichen loeschen mit x, Einfuegemodus mit i. Der Einfuegemodus wird
mit ESC verlassen. :w zum Speichern. :q zum Verlassen. :q! zum Verlassen
ohne zu speichern).
Die Treiber-Konfigurationsdateien befinden sich unter /usr/Devices oder
/private/Drivers/i386 in .config-Verzeichnissen. In jedem .config-Verzeichnis
befinden sich eine oder mehrere .table-Dateien, die in ASCII die Einstellungen
beinhalten und sich daher angenehmerweise mit vi aendern lassen. Ausserdem
empfiehlt es sich, zumindest die zsh zu benutzen, die kann Completion,
History und Editieren der Kommandozeile.
Die 'Instance0.table' ist jeweils fuer die aktuelle Konfiguration zustaendig,
die 'Default.table' wird bei 'config=Default' benutzt.
Um einzelne Treiber hinzuzufuegen oder zu entfernen, kann man
'System.config/Instance0.table' bemuehen. Am besten, man aendert die
'Default.tables' nicht, weil man sich durch Fehler in der System.config
auch ganz aussperren kann. (Als letzter Notbehelf ist dann allerdings immer
noch das Booten im Singleusermode von CD moeglich, aber unangenehm, weil
/tmp nicht schreibbar ist und deswegen der vi auch erstmal nicht so einfach
funktioniert).
Was bei falschem Grafikkartentreiber meist erstmal hilft, ist das
Ersetzen des Eintrags fuer die Grafikkarte in System.config/Instance0.table
durch 'VGA'.
Schwierigere Operationen, wie das Aufspielen eines neuen Treibers, sind
nicht unmoeglich. Die .compressed-Dateien sind eigentlich .tar.Z-Files
und lassen sich daher mit 'gnutar xvzf Dateiname.compressed' auspacken.
Um die Floppy gaengig zu machen, braucht man 'driverLoader d=Floppy' und
ein paarmal 'y'es.
Mit 'reboot' wird dann neu gestartet, wenn man die Treiber verbogen hat.
Paranoiker geben vorher noch 'sync' ein.
Viel Erfolg.
Axel
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Prob. mit neuem Board
Date: 10 Jul 1998 20:31:56 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6o5tns$1mb$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6xbGne$xLiB@nuppy.harz.de> <6o5mha$78h$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
..
>Mit 'reboot' wird dann neu gestartet, wenn man die Treiber verbogen hat.
>Paranoiker geben vorher noch 'sync' ein.
Echte Paranoiker erkennt man daran, dass sie zweimal sync tippen. :-)
Vielen Dank, Axel, fuer diese exzellente Uebersicht!
Gruesse, Chris
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Date: 11 Jul 1998 00:26:00 +0100
From: nuppy@nuppy.harz.de (Niels Coelle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
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<6o5mha$78h$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Subject: Re: Prob. mit neuem Board
Hallo Axel!
Vielen Dank fuer Deine ausfuehrliche Hilfestellung. Allerdings liegt der
Hund schon viel frueher begraben: Da ich schnell etwas Plattenplatz
benoetigte, habe ich meine NS-Partition platt gemacht, da ich mit M$ Win
arbeiten *muss*. Mein Problem ist nun die Neuinstallation mit dem neuen
Board/CPU. Alle anderen Komponenten sind gleich geblieben. Ich komme noch
nicht mal bis zum Partitionieren der Festplatte. Der Trick mit dem -v als
Bootparameter hat auch nichts gebracht.
Ich vermute, dass ich eine neue Treiberdiskette mit einem aktuellen
Treiber fuer mein Board benoetige. Das ist aber schlecht, da ich die neue
Treiber nur als .compressed gefunden habe und ich mit WIN keine NeXT-
Diskette erstellen kann (ok, es gibt rawrite, aber dafuer muss ich erstmal
den Treiber auspacken). Vielleicht gibt es aber auch eine andere Loesung
fuer mein Problem.
Danke
Niels
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From: dmcger@aol.com (Dmcger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: TIFF Gamma Korrektur NS 3.2
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Date: 10 Jul 1998 23:01:06 GMT
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Ich nach eineiger Zeit mal wieder mit meiner Dimension gearbeitet. Da ist mir
ein altes Problem aufgefallen. TIFF Grafiken werden auf dem NeXT deutlich zu
hell dargestellt, das war wohl die Sache mit der Gamma Korrektur. Welches Tool
nimmt man denn da am besten zu Konvertieren? Ich bin leider nicht mehr so auf
dem laufenden, und für jede Auskunft dankbar.
Gruss Micha
dmcger@com
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: sendmail
Date: 11 Jul 1998 00:08:37 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
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lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) wrote:
> offensichtlich hat bei meiner sendmail Konfiguration alles
> soweit hingehauen, dass er wenn er online (ppp)
> ist alle Mails richtig an den Mailhost schickt.
> Ist der Link down kommt eine Fehlermessage.
> Wie kriege ich ihn dazu, dass er bis
> zum Befehl senmail -q alles in eine Que schreibt???
Wie wär's, wenn Du uns noch verrätst, *welche* Fehlermeldung Du bekommst? ;-)
Sachdienliche Infos über die verwendete NEXTSTEP-Version wären ebenfalls kein
Fehler. Das hängt nämlich alles davon ab...
Tschau
Uli
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Matrox Produktiva
Date: 10 Jul 1998 22:32:13 GMT
Organization: STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting, Germany
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In <6o2ft6$62c$1@news01.btx.dtag.de> Alexander Dietz wrote:
> Gibt es schon einen Treiber?
Nein.
Gerald
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Prob. mit neuem Board
Date: 11 Jul 1998 07:58:27 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6o75v3$bh8$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <6xbGne$xLiB@nuppy.harz.de> <6o5mha$78h$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <6xfHAFIxLiB@nuppy.harz.de>
Niels Coelle <nuppy@nuppy.harz.de> wrote:
: Hallo Axel!
: Vielen Dank fuer Deine ausfuehrliche Hilfestellung. Allerdings liegt der
: Hund schon viel frueher begraben: Da ich schnell etwas Plattenplatz
: benoetigte, habe ich meine NS-Partition platt gemacht, da ich mit M$ Win
: arbeiten *muss*.
Das kommt vor. Traurig, aber wahr :-)
: Mein Problem ist nun die Neuinstallation mit dem neuen
: Board/CPU. Alle anderen Komponenten sind gleich geblieben. Ich komme noch
: nicht mal bis zum Partitionieren der Festplatte. Der Trick mit dem -v als
: Bootparameter hat auch nichts gebracht.
Ich verstehe dann eines aber nicht. Du hast in Deinem ersten Posting
geschrieben, dass der Bildschirm schwarz bleibt, wenn er die Grafik
starten will. Normalerweise (IIRC) wird aber bei der Installation kein
GraKa-Treiber geladen, weil eh nur der eingebaute Consolemodus verwendet
wird.
Kannst Du bitte nochmal genau beschreiben, was Du siehst? Laedt
NS nur die Treiber (im VGA-Textmodus) und verabschiedet sich dann oder
kommst Du noch in den Consolemodus (weisser Hintergrund)?
: Ich vermute, dass ich eine neue Treiberdiskette mit einem aktuellen
: Treiber fuer mein Board benoetige. Das ist aber schlecht, da ich die neue
: Treiber nur als .compressed gefunden habe und ich mit WIN keine NeXT-
: Diskette erstellen kann (ok, es gibt rawrite, aber dafuer muss ich erstmal
: den Treiber auspacken). Vielleicht gibt es aber auch eine andere Loesung
: fuer mein Problem.
Ich koennte Dir ein Diskimage machen und zuschicken. Welche Treiber
brauchst Du (welche NS-Version versuchst Du zu installieren)? Da es
sich um einen Boot-Driver handelt, muss das wahrscheinlich auf die
Bootdiskette und nicht auf die Driverdisk.
Ohne NeXTSTEP-System hast Du da leider keine Chance.
Axel
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: TIFF Gamma Korrektur NS 3.2
Date: 11 Jul 1998 08:14:16 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6o76so$bh8$2@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Dmcger <dmcger@aol.com> wrote:
: Ich nach eineiger Zeit mal wieder mit meiner Dimension gearbeitet. Da ist mir
: ein altes Problem aufgefallen. TIFF Grafiken werden auf dem NeXT deutlich zu
: hell dargestellt, das war wohl die Sache mit der Gamma Korrektur. Welches Tool
: nimmt man denn da am besten zu Konvertieren? Ich bin leider nicht mehr so auf
: dem laufenden, und für jede Auskunft dankbar.
Um praezise zu sein: Die NeXT ist die Maschine, die es richtig macht.
Kann ja NeXT nichts dafuer, dass alle anderen es falsch machen :-)
Als frei verfuegbares (Kommandozeilen)-Tool faellt mir da folgendes
ein:
belly kiwi 4 (~): man pnmgamma
pnmgamma(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual pnmgamma(1)
NAME
pnmgamma - perform gamma correction on a portable anymap
Das kann man dann auch schoen im Batch machen:
/bin/sh -c 'for i in *.tiff; do echo $i; tifftopnm $i |\
pnmgamma 0.71 0.71 0.71 | pnmtotiff >/tmp/corrected_$i; done'
Ach, die ganzen pnm-Tools gibt's in der netpbm oder pbmplus-Package
(eine davon ist die neuere).
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From: marsu@cs.tu-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann)
Newsgroups: bln.archiv,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Neu auf dem Berliner NeXT-Archiv (11-Jul-98)
Date: 11 Jul 1998 08:47:11 GMT
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Neu auf dem NeXT-FTP-Archiv der BeNG (ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT):
3549858 Jun 30 14:25 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/apps/MusicBuilder.1.2.2.NIHS.b.tar.gz
1763 Jun 30 13:47 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/apps/MusicBuilder.README
1569 May 4 02:01 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/apps/TinyInstaller-0.2-PI-s.README
24587 May 4 02:01 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/apps/TinyInstaller-0.2-PI-s.tar.gz
1281 May 29 17:32 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/apps/YBOS-1.0-W-bs.README
16540 May 29 17:33 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/apps/YBOS-1.0-W-bs.tar.gz
6880 Jun 9 03:50 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/apps/commercial/Joy-1.13-m-P-b.README
1598521 Jun 9 04:09 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/apps/commercial/Joy-1.13-m-P-b.tgz
1946 Jun 25 12:14 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/apps/commercial/JoyServices-1.0DR2-m-P-b.README
51617 Jun 25 12:15 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/apps/commercial/JoyServices-1.0DR2-m-P-b.tgz
1353 Jun 8 05:10 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/examples/QTSkeleton.README
1106036 Jun 8 05:12 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/examples/QTSkeleton.zip
7937 Jul 9 23:39 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/palettes/PBPrintExtension.1.0-s.tar.gz
874 Jul 9 23:47 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/libs/palettes/PBPrintExtension.1.0.README
212860 Jul 6 12:03 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/CuttingRoom-0.9b5-PI-b.tar.gz
751 Jul 6 12:01 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/CuttingRoom-0.9b5.README
7406237 Jul 8 09:37 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/apps/commercial/CDDesigner.1.4.1.NIHS.b.tar.gz
6150 Jul 8 09:37 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/apps/commercial/CDDesigner.1.4.1.README
235868 Mar 4 17:25 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/apps/commercial/CDDesigner.1.4.ps.d.tar.gz
5480 Jul 7 04:25 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/driver/intel/MultiWav.1.17.I.b.README
95093 Jul 7 04:25 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/driver/intel/MultiWav.1.17.I.b.tar.gz
3053 Jul 7 20:51 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/97.1-Fruehjahr/MailTIFF.database/MailTIFF.convert.1.0.README.rtf
1752603 Jul 7 20:53 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/97.1-Fruehjahr/MailTIFF.database/MailTIFF.convert.1.0.b.NIHS.tar.gz
6060 Jul 8 00:04 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/97.1-Fruehjahr/MailTIFF.database/MailTIFF.database.1.2.LIESMICH.rtf
5558 Jul 7 20:54 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/97.1-Fruehjahr/MailTIFF.database/MailTIFF.database.1.2.README.rtf
120521 Jul 8 00:08 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/97.1-Fruehjahr/MailTIFF.database/MailTIFF.database.1.2.b.NIHS.tar.gz
772775 Jul 7 19:59 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/libs/EnhanceMail.2.2.NIHS.bs.gnutar.gz
8266 Jul 7 19:59 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/libs/EnhanceMail.2.2.README
387660 Jul 7 20:03 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/libs/EnhanceMail.2.2.s.gnutar.gz
289828 Jul 7 20:06 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/libs/EnhanceMail_French.lproj.2.2.d.pkg.tar.gz
211642 Jul 7 20:09 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/libs/EnhanceMail_German.lproj.2.2.d.pkg.tar.gz
1111661 Jul 8 23:59 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/unix/imapd-4rev1-v10.234.NIHS.b.gz
3509950 Jul 9 00:30 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/unix/pine.4.0.0.NIHS.b.gz
1820 Jul 8 23:48 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/unix/pine.4.0.0.README
1687970 Jul 9 00:38 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/unix/pine.4.0.0.nosender.NI.b.gz
234 Jul 9 00:38 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/unix/pine.4.0.0.nosender.README
875 Jun 30 10:33 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/Samba-1.9.18p8-PI-b.README
1944615 Jun 30 10:45 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/Samba-1.9.18p8-PI-b.tar.gz
1644 Jun 30 01:26 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/text/TeX/unix/teTeX-0.4pl8-P.b.README
2596105 Jun 30 01:46 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/text/TeX/unix/teTeX-0.4pl8-P.b.tar.gz
332558 Jul 1 12:10 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/text/misc/FontConvert.1.52b.NISH.b.tar.gz
1367 Jul 1 12:05 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/text/misc/FontConvert.1.52b.README
266 Jun 13 1997 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/text/unix/pico.2.9.README
294933 Jul 9 00:00 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/text/unix/pico.3.0.NIHS.b.gz
1844842 Jun 10 03:50 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4b.NIHS.pkg.b.tar.gz
3256 Jun 10 03:43 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4b.README
318 Jun 10 03:43 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4b.Source.README
1757074 Jun 10 08:54 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4b.Source.sd.tar.gz
951 Jun 10 03:43 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4b.Utils.README
2000402 Jun 10 03:52 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4b.Utils.s.tar.gz
1068 Jun 10 03:43 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/archiver/apps/Opener.3.4b.md5
509 Jun 13 1997 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/unix/pilot.1.1.README
291433 Jul 9 00:00 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/unix/pilot.2.0.NIHS.b.gz
656670 Apr 14 10:55 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/apps/EggTimer-2.5-PI-b.tar.gz
329081 Apr 14 10:56 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/apps/EggTimer-2.5-PI-s.tar.gz
31036 Jun 2 12:42 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/apps/GraphiClock-1.1-P-b.tgz
1574 Jun 2 12:21 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/apps/GraphiClock-1.1.README
897 May 29 09:03 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/apps/GraphiClock.README
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From: sharon@netcom.com
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Subject: Anyone want to talk on the phone?
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Sharon
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Date: 11 Jul 1998 11:11:00 +0100
From: nuppy@nuppy.harz.de (Niels Coelle)
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Subject: Re: Prob. mit neuem Board
Hallo Axel!
kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de meinte am 11.07.98
zum Thema "Re: Prob. mit neuem Board":
> Festplatte. Der Trick mit dem -v als : Bootparameter hat
> auch nichts gebracht.
>
> Ich verstehe dann eines aber nicht. Du hast in Deinem ersten
> Posting geschrieben, dass der Bildschirm schwarz bleibt,
> wenn er die Grafik starten will. Normalerweise (IIRC) wird
> aber bei der Installation kein GraKa-Treiber geladen, weil
> eh nur der eingebaute Consolemodus verwendet wird.
Die Installation sieht bei mir so aus:
- Booten mit der Installationsdiskette.
- Einlesen der Treiberdiskette
- Einlesen der Adaptec-Treiber 3.37 von einer zusaetzlichen Diskette. Die
habe ich als Diskimages auf der Peanuts CD gefunden.
- Mit meinem alten Board wurde jetzt in einen Grafikmodus umgeschaltet,
das System geladen und fdisk gestartet. Stattdessen bleibt der Monitor
jetzt schwarz. Der Consolemodus wird nicht gestartet.
Was ich nicht verstehe, ich hatte vorher auch eine Intel 824X0 Chipsatz,
aber halt keinen TX. Laut NextAnswers soll der Treiber aber fuer alle
824x0 Chipsaetze sein.
Vieleicht komme ich auf Dein Angebot mit der Bootdiskette zurueck. Hier an
der Uni gibt es noch einen NeXT-Benutzer. Eventuell kann der mir ja eine
Bootdisk basteln.
Vielen Dank
Niels
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From: kuranda@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Anke Ehlers)
Subject: Re: CD-Brenner-Erfahrungen auf Mono Station?
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In <6nv3of$64j$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Martin Oettle wrote:
> In article <6nte5e$ngd$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> thor@cs.tu-berlin.de
> (Thorsten Albrecht) writes:
> > Hallo!
> > Diese Frage tauchte ja schon oefter hier auf, aber vielleicht hat
> sich in
> > der Zwischenzeit ja etwas getan. Hat jemand gute Erfahrungen z.B.
> mit
> > CD Designer gesammelt?
>
> Nein, mit CD-Designer bin ich nicht in der Lage, Audio-CD s
> zu brennen. Bei jedem letzten Stueck auf der Audio-CD liefert
> das Programm beim Lesen Fehlermeldungen. Man kann dann hoechstens
> eine CD ohne das letzte Lied kopieren. Beim Abspielen der
> kopierten CD rauscht s dann manchmal (Fehler) obwohl nur mit
> einfacher Geschwindigkeit und lokalem Plattencash geschrieben
> wurde :-(
Ich habe mittlerweile an die 20 Audio-CDs damit gebrannt - mehr oder minder
ohne Probleme. Ich lese die CDs allerdings vorher immer aus und schreibe dann
die SND-Files auf CD. Ab und zu gab es *nach* dem Brennen eine Fehlermeldung,
die aber nicht zu Problemen beim Abspielen gefuehrt hat. Ich habe eine
Philips CDD2000. Was natuerlich sein kann, dass auf der Ausgangskopie schon
ein Byte nicht mehr ausgelesen werden kann - dann gibt es Probleme. Daher
einfach vorher auslesen, da so bekannt ist, ob es Probleme gibt. Kann ein
Song nicht ausgelesen werden, versuche es mit einem anderen Rom-LW bzw. mit
dem Brenner oder aber mit einem anderen Programm (z.B. OmniCD). Bisher hatte
ich nur einen Song, den ich pertu nicht ausgelesen bekommen habe. Auch bei
sehr vollen CDs gibt es oft am Ende Probleme. Ist aber nicht das Problem vom
CDDesigner, sondern eher der Hardware. Audio-Daten auszulesen gehoert mit zu
den schwierigsten Dingen fuer ein Rom-LW.
> Daten CD s kann man damit erzeugen, obwohl der Brennvorgang beim
> kleinsten Fehler sofort abgebrochen wird (auch wenn man auf
> "Ignore" klickt).
Hatte ich aeussert selten und wenn waren es Probleme auf dem SCSI-Bus oder
buffer underrun (aber dafuer gibt es ja Testdurchlaeufe ;-). Trotzdem
schreibe ich Daten-CDs, vorallem wenn sie auch unter DOS gelesen werden
sollen, lieber mit mkisofs, da ich sonst Leseprobleme hatte. Reine
NEXTSTEP-CDs kann man hingegen problemlos mit dem CDDesigner erstellen.
Gruss Anke
PS: Lizenzen gibt es auch bei RCN (rcn@rcn.de) zu erwerben.
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: KORREKTUR! Re: MailTIFFs-Datenbank Version 1.2 ist da
Date: 11 Jul 1998 21:13:56 GMT
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Hallo,
ich schrieb:
> Bitte beachtet, daß der Import-Mechanismus nur für Bilder funktioniert, die
> von EnhanceMail geholt wurden, *nachdem* die neue EnhanceMail-Version 2.2
> installiert worden ist. Daher ist es möglicherweise am besten, alle bislang
> von EnhanceMail geholten Bilder in ~/Library/Mail/Images zu löschen und sie
> mit EnhanceMail Version 2.2 erneut zu laden. Nur so stehen alle Bilder auch
> für Euren Newsreader zur Verfügung.
Tom Hagemann, EnhanceMail gegenwärtiger Programmierer, hat mich darauf
aufmerksam gemacht, daß das dank EnhanceMails genialer Programmierung :-)
*nicht* nötig ist! Sobald Ihr eine (neue oder alte) Mail von einer Adresse
lest, für die bereits das alte EnhanceMail ein Mail-Bild geholt hatte,
registriert EnhanceMail dieses Bild in seiner neuen Schnittstelle, so daß die
NEXTTOYOU-MailTIFFs-Datenbank es importieren kann. Sorry für die unnötige
Verwirrung!
Tschau
Uli
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From: ergo@camelot.in-berlin.de (Olaf Foellinger)
Subject: 'Defekte' Partition beim Login ?
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Hi,
beim Login erfreut mich OpenStep 4.2 neuerdings immer mit der Meldung 'Festplatte
Disk ist defekt - <Ignorieren> <Formatieren> <Reparieren > ?' (als Messagebox).
Dann wähle ich natürlich <Reparieren>, und alles läuft bis zum nächsten Login. In
der Konsole sieht das so aus:
/usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rsd2a
/dev/rsd2a: 13 files, 20 used, 6731 free (11 frags, 840 blocks, 0.2%
fragmentation)
Jul 12 08:32:11 Workspace[9450]: no repair table on completion of repair of sd2
Kann man das Problem irgendwie endgültig lösen ? Es handelt sich nicht um die
Bootpartition.
Gruß Olaf
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: TIFF Gamma Korrektur NS 3.2
Date: 12 Jul 1998 08:06:14 GMT
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In <1998071023010600.TAA04701@ladder01.news.aol.com> Dmcger wrote:
> Ich nach eineiger Zeit mal wieder mit meiner Dimension gearbeitet. Da ist
mir
> ein altes Problem aufgefallen. TIFF Grafiken werden auf dem NeXT deutlich
zu
> hell dargestellt, das war wohl die Sache mit der Gamma Korrektur.
Man kann das auch andersherum formulieren: TIFF-Grafiken werden auf
nicht-NeXT-Computern zu dunkel dargestellt. Im Gegensatz zu vielen anderen
Betriebssystemen besitzt NeXTSTEP eine linearisierte Farbdarstellung.
Ansonsten gab's da mal einen guten Artikel in der NEXTTOYOU dazu.
Zur Konvertierung und noch viel mehr eignet sich u.a. auch TIFFany.
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From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
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Subject: Re: Prob. mit neuem Board
Date: 13 Jul 1998 07:03:46 GMT
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> Ich verstehe dann eines aber nicht. Du hast in Deinem ersten Posting
> geschrieben, dass der Bildschirm schwarz bleibt, wenn er die Grafik
> starten will. Normalerweise (IIRC) wird aber bei der Installation kein
> GraKa-Treiber geladen, weil eh nur der eingebaute Consolemodus verwendet
> wird.
Probleme mit der Grafikkarte hatte ich auch mal (erinnere mich dunkel...)
Soweit ich das noch weiss, kollidierten der Hauptspeicher mit dem
GraKa-Speicher.
Geholfen hat in dem Fall, die Adresse zur Abbildung des GraKa-Speichers ein
ganzes Stueck hochzusetzen
(beispielsweise ueber 64 MB) im Configure.App.
Gruss
Stephan
Date: 13 Jul 1998 12:11:00 +0100
From: nuppy@nuppy.harz.de (Niels Coelle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
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Subject: Re: Prob. mit neuem Board
Hallo Stephan!
meyers@ppi.de meinte am 13.07.98
zum Thema "Re: Prob. mit neuem Board":
> Probleme mit der Grafikkarte hatte ich auch mal (erinnere
> mich dunkel...) Soweit ich das noch weiss, kollidierten der
> Hauptspeicher mit dem GraKa-Speicher.
> Geholfen hat in dem Fall, die Adresse zur Abbildung des
> GraKa-Speichers ein ganzes Stueck hochzusetzen
> (beispielsweise ueber 64 MB) im Configure.App.
Leider komme ich noch nicht mal bis dorthin. Ich bekomme noch nicht einmal
die Console zu Gesicht...
cu
Niels
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Date: 13 Jul 1998 12:20:00 +0100
From: nuppy@nuppy.harz.de (Niels Coelle)
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Subject: Re: Prob. mit neuem Board
Hallo Axel!
kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de meinte am 11.07.98
zum Thema "Re: Prob. mit neuem Board":
> Ich koennte Dir ein Diskimage machen und zuschicken. Welche
> Treiber brauchst Du (welche NS-Version versuchst Du zu
> installieren)? Da es sich um einen Boot-Driver handelt, muss
> das wahrscheinlich auf die Bootdiskette und nicht auf die
> Driverdisk.
Auf der Peanuts CD waren rawrite und einige Bootimages drauf, mit denen
ich etwas weiter komme. Beim Neustart bleibt das System aber wieder
stehen, nachdem ich die Treiberdiskette fuer den Adaptec eingelegt habe:
Dunkler Monitor.
Momentan sieht es so aus, als wenn ich auf NS verzichten muesste :-((((.
Meine ganzen wichtigen Daten habe ich zum Glueck auf einem GnuTar-Tape,
welches ich ja auch unter Linux lesen kann. Was ich nicht direkt einlesen
kann, kann ich bei einem Kumpel in ein ASCII-Format konvertieren.
cu
Niels
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From: sieg@xxx.uni-muenchen.de (Arne Sieg)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: DATEN fuer 19" Monitor
Date: 13 Jul 1998 14:02:06 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <6od40u$2se@pizzastation.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3593A147.301C@ponton.de> <EvMvKG.BAJ@nidat.sub.org>
Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote:
>In article <3593A147.301C@ponton.de> Joachim <joachim@ponton.de> writes:
>> Ich bin seit ein par Monaten stolzer Besitzer eines Next Turbo
>> Color Station mit angeschlossenem 19" Festfrequenzmonitor Type
>> CM2197AS3NE. Alles l uft wunderbar. Ich w rde den Monitor nur
>> gerne auch an einem Linuxrechner mit X Terminal und KDE Desktop
>> betreiben. Adapterkabel mit 15 Pol. VGA Stecker hab ich schon.
>> Ich m te nur die technischen Eckdaten haben (Aufl sung,
>> Bildwiederholfrequenz Horizontal und Vertikal Ablenkfrequenzen)
>> sowie eine Belegung der Eingangsbuchse.
>>
>Alle NeXTs hatten 1120 x 832 x 62 Hz non-interlace mit Synch auf Gruen.
^^^^^
>Steckerbelegung: R, 10 leere Pins, G, B
Bei 72 Hz (Turbo und turboboardgleiche 25MHz Stations/Cubes) - sonst wuerde
ja alles flimmern.
69 Hz bei den alten 25 MHz Kisten.
--
Arne Sieg
+++ exchange xxx with informatik to reply +++
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extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =-
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: fuer WP deutsche Thesaurus, Silbentrennung etc. Dateien
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:59:23 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
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Hallo,
ich habe eine alte WordPerfect US (black binary) Version von 1994, in welcher die Dateien fuer
die deutsche Silbentrennung, Thesaurus etc. nicht enthalten sind.
Koennte evtl. jemand der die deutsche WP Version hat, so freundlich sein, und mir die "*.de" Dateien welche
in dem AppWrapper "WordPerfect.app/wpfiles/*.de" liegen muessten zur Verfuegung stellen???
Ohne deutsche Silbentrennung u. Rechtschreibpruefung macht das Schreiben deutschprachiger Texte unter
WP wenig Sinn :-(!
Gruss Valentino
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Email: vkyr@lavielle.com
From: "p.buettiker" <kph134@ikp192.ikp.kfa-juelich.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Hardware-Probleme (Intel)
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:03:40 +0200
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH (KFA) Germany
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Hallo zusammen!
Sicher wurde die nachfolgende Frage schon 10^x mal gestellt, doch ich
konnte auf dem Netz nichts verwertbares finden. So hoffe ich auf Eure
Nachsicht, wenn Euch meine Frage nervt!
Ich habe mir neue Hardware (Intel) gekauft und moechte nun NS 3.3
installieren. Die Konfiguration sieht folgendermassen aus:
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-686 BX, Award BIOS
CPU: Intel Pentium II 400 MHz
Graphik: Matrox Mysique 220 4MB+
HD: Micropolis 4.3 GB, SCSI Ultra/Wide
SCSI-Contr.: Dawicontrol DC-2976 UW (PCI); verwendet den Symbios
Logic Chip 53c875
Ja, Adaptec waere besser, aber....
CD-ROM: Pioneer, DR-U06S, SCSI2
Maus: seriell, Microsoft-Maus
Wenn ich nun eine Neuinstallation versuche, schlaegt sie, nachdem nach
dem SCSI-Adapter-Treiber gefragt wurde (=Symbios Logic-Treiber), mit
folgendem Bildschirm-Output fehl:
...
Registering: PCI0
PCICIA could not determine instance- setting to default
sc0: Probing for device Symbios Logic Adapter instance 0
SYM53c8: Can't find this PCI device; ABORTING
Registering: event0
Registering: kmDevice0
No SCSI controller or CD-ROM Drive found
...
Ich hab's mit verschiedenen PCI-Slots fuer die Karten, neuerer Version
des PCI Host Bridge-Treiber etc. versucht, leider ohne Erfolg.
Kann mir jemand von Euch weiterhelfen (Hardware-Empfehlung etc.)?
Vielen Dank!
Paul
--
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(A. Einstein)
*******************************************************************************
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Institut fuer Kernphysik (Theorie) Phone: (49)(2461) 61 44 00
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Hallo zusammen!
<P>Sicher wurde die nachfolgende Frage schon 10^x mal gestellt, doch ich
konnte auf dem Netz nichts verwertbares finden. So hoffe ich auf Eure Nachsicht,
wenn Euch meine Frage nervt!
<P>Ich habe mir neue Hardware (Intel) gekauft und moechte nun NS 3.3 installieren.
Die Konfiguration sieht folgendermassen aus:
<P>Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-686 BX, Award BIOS
<BR>CPU:
Intel Pentium II 400 MHz
<BR>Graphik:
Matrox Mysique 220 4MB+
<BR>HD:
Micropolis 4.3 GB, SCSI Ultra/Wide
<BR>SCSI-Contr.: Dawicontrol DC-2976 UW (PCI);
verwendet den Symbios Logic Chip 53c875
<BR>
Ja, Adaptec waere besser, aber....
<BR>CD-ROM:
Pioneer, DR-U06S, SCSI2
<BR>Maus:
seriell, Microsoft-Maus
<BR>
<P>Wenn ich nun eine Neuinstallation versuche, schlaegt sie, nachdem nach
dem SCSI-Adapter-Treiber gefragt wurde (=Symbios Logic-Treiber),
mit folgendem Bildschirm-Output fehl:
<P>...
<BR>Registering: PCI0
<BR>PCICIA could not determine instance- setting to default
<BR>sc0: Probing for device Symbios Logic Adapter instance 0
<BR>SYM53c8: Can't find this PCI device; ABORTING
<BR>Registering: event0
<BR>Registering: kmDevice0
<BR>No SCSI controller or CD-ROM Drive found
<BR>...
<P>Ich hab's mit verschiedenen PCI-Slots fuer die Karten, neuerer Version
des PCI Host Bridge-Treiber etc. versucht, leider ohne Erfolg.
<BR>Kann mir jemand von Euch weiterhelfen (Hardware-Empfehlung etc.)?
<P>Vielen Dank!
<P>Paul
<PRE>--
"Gravitation can not be held responsible for people falling in love"
(A. Einstein)
*******************************************************************************
Paul Buettiker
Institut fuer Kernphysik (Theorie) Phone: (49)(2461) 61 44 00
Forschungszentrum Juelich Email: P.Buettiker@fz-juelich.de
D-52425 Juelich
Germany
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From: sieg@xxx.uni-muenchen.de (Arne Sieg)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Prob. mit neuem Board
Date: 13 Jul 1998 14:33:13 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <6od5r9$2se@pizzastation.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <6xbGne$xLiB@nuppy.harz.de> <6o5mha$78h$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <6xfHAFIxLiB@nuppy.harz.de> <6o75v3$bh8$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <6xnIfRwCLiB@nuppy.harz.de>
nuppy@nuppy.harz.de (Niels Coelle) wrote:
>Auf der Peanuts CD waren rawrite und einige Bootimages drauf, mit denen
>ich etwas weiter komme. Beim Neustart bleibt das System aber wieder
>stehen, nachdem ich die Treiberdiskette fuer den Adaptec eingelegt habe:
>Dunkler Monitor.
Probiers doch mal mit einem neuen SCSI Treiber. Du schriebst etwas von
Adaptec V. 3.37 oder so aehnlich. Gab es da nicht massive Probleme mit? Ein
neuer Treiber soll aber schon seit einiger Zeit existieren.
>Momentan sieht es so aus, als wenn ich auf NS verzichten muesste :-((((.
>Meine ganzen wichtigen Daten habe ich zum Glueck auf einem GnuTar-Tape,
>welches ich ja auch unter Linux lesen kann. Was ich nicht direkt einlesen
>kann, kann ich bei einem Kumpel in ein ASCII-Format konvertieren.
Na, dass ist wirklich der "worst case"!
--
Arne Sieg
+++ exchange xxx with informatik to reply +++
"I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an
extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =-
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: F: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:40:23 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
Message-ID: <35AA3876.733D14DD@lavielle.com>
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Werden WriteUp und PasteUp von AFS noch fuer NS3.3 gepflegt bzw. vertrieben oder sind diese eingestellt worden?
Soweit ich weiss gibt es von WriteUp (v.1.22) eine an den deutschen Sprachraum angepasste Version, mit deutscher
Rechtschreibkorrektur und Silbentrennung (?).
Bis dato benutze ich selbst FrameMaker und manchmal OpenWrite, da jedoch meine Freundin nun meine NeXTstation
auch zum Schreiben von Briefen etc. benutzen moechte habe ich folgende bedenken:
- FrameMaker: ist zwar nach wie vor das Leistungsfaehigste System unter NS, jedoch wohl zu komplex und zu
umstaendlich fuer sie. Hinzu kommt das es keine eingedeutschte NS Version gibt.
- OpenWrite: ist ziemlich langsam, hat keinerlei autom. Silbentrennung (nur Soft Hyphens), keine deutsche Version.
Ist aber ansonsten recht komfortabel zu bedienen.
- CedarWord: ist ziemlich lahm, es Fehlen viele Funktionen.
- WordPerfect: Ist ziemlich flott, aber leider nicht mehr ganz zeitgemaess in der Bedienung und Uebersichtlichkeit.
- WriteUp: ???
Gruss Valentino
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Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co. Tel.: +49(0)40 / 65 80 8 - 997
Lotharstrasse 2b, D-22041 Hamburg, Germany Fax.: +49(0)40 / 65 808-202
http://www.lavielle.com/ mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com
From: Reinhard Wolf <ge34@mailserv.uni-giessen.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: DATEN fuer 19" Monitor
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:57:50 +0200
Organization: University of Giessen, Germany
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.96.980713175655.18538A-100000@vision.hrz.uni-giessen.de>
References: <3593A147.301C@ponton.de> <EvMvKG.BAJ@nidat.sub.org> <6od40u$2se@pizzastation.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
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On 13 Jul 1998, Arne Sieg wrote:
> >Alle NeXTs hatten 1120 x 832 x 62 Hz non-interlace mit Synch auf Gruen.
> ^^^^^
>
> >Steckerbelegung: R, 10 leere Pins, G, B
>
> Bei 72 Hz (Turbo und turboboardgleiche 25MHz Stations/Cubes) - sonst wuerde
> ja alles flimmern.
> 69 Hz bei den alten 25 MHz Kisten.
^^^^^^
Gleich hamwers.... 68Hz!
From: sieg@xxx.uni-muenchen.de (Arne Sieg)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: DATEN fuer 19" Monitor
Date: 13 Jul 1998 18:23:13 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <6odjah$2se@pizzastation.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3593A147.301C@ponton.de> <EvMvKG.BAJ@nidat.sub.org> <6od40u$2se@pizzastation.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <Pine.A32.3.96.980713175655.18538A-100000@vision.hrz.uni-giessen.de>
Reinhard Wolf <ge34@mailserv.uni-giessen.de> wrote:
>On 13 Jul 1998, Arne Sieg wrote:
>
>> >Alle NeXTs hatten 1120 x 832 x 62 Hz non-interlace mit Synch auf Gruen.
>> ^^^^^
>>
>> >Steckerbelegung: R, 10 leere Pins, G, B
>>
>> Bei 72 Hz (Turbo und turboboardgleiche 25MHz Stations/Cubes) - sonst
wuerde
>> ja alles flimmern.
>> 69 Hz bei den alten 25 MHz Kisten.
>^^^^^^
>Gleich hamwers.... 68Hz!
Jetzt habe ich es nochmal im Handbuch nachgeschaut - nach 7 Jahren
Nextstation kann einem das schon mal passieren - es sind tatsaechlich "nur"
68 Hz.
--
Arne Sieg
+++ exchange xxx with informatik to reply +++
"I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an
extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =-
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: postleitzahlenprogramm mit api?
Date: 13 Jul 1998 18:39:10 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6odk8e$iqv$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
hallo,
suche ein postleitzahlenprogramm (auf strassenebene) mit API fuer NS/OS.
daniel
From: moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Möllney)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Hardware-Probleme (Intel)
Organization: Uni Siegen
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Date: 13 Jul 98 18:43:41 GMT
In <35AA2FDA.CB89DE2B@ikp192.ikp.kfa-juelich.de> "p.buettiker" wrote:
> Hallo zusammen!
>
> Sicher wurde die nachfolgende Frage schon 10^x mal gestellt, doch ich
> konnte auf dem Netz nichts verwertbares finden. So hoffe ich auf Eure
> Nachsicht, wenn Euch meine Frage nervt!
>
> Ich habe mir neue Hardware (Intel) gekauft und moechte nun NS 3.3
> installieren. Die Konfiguration sieht folgendermassen aus:
>
> Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-686 BX, Award BIOS
> CPU: Intel Pentium II 400 MHz
> Graphik: Matrox Mysique 220 4MB+
> HD: Micropolis 4.3 GB, SCSI Ultra/Wide
> SCSI-Contr.: Dawicontrol DC-2976 UW (PCI); verwendet den Symbios
> Logic Chip 53c875
> Ja, Adaptec waere besser, aber....
> CD-ROM: Pioneer, DR-U06S, SCSI2
> Maus: seriell, Microsoft-Maus
>
>
> Wenn ich nun eine Neuinstallation versuche, schlaegt sie, nachdem nach
> dem SCSI-Adapter-Treiber gefragt wurde (=Symbios Logic-Treiber), mit
> folgendem Bildschirm-Output fehl:
>
> ...
> Registering: PCI0
> PCICIA could not determine instance- setting to default
> sc0: Probing for device Symbios Logic Adapter instance 0
> SYM53c8: Can't find this PCI device; ABORTING
> Registering: event0
> Registering: kmDevice0
> No SCSI controller or CD-ROM Drive found
> ...
>
Der Symbios 53c875 wird nicht von diesem Treiber unterstötzt. Ich habe diese
Erfahrung leider auch gemacht und dann einen Adapted 2940 UW gekauft.
> Ich hab's mit verschiedenen PCI-Slots fuer die Karten, neuerer Version
> des PCI Host Bridge-Treiber etc. versucht, leider ohne Erfolg.
> Kann mir jemand von Euch weiterhelfen (Hardware-Empfehlung etc.)?
>
> Vielen Dank!
>
> Paul
>
> --
> "Gravitation can not be held responsible for people falling in love"
> (A. Einstein)
>
*******************************************************************************
> Paul Buettiker
> Institut fuer Kernphysik (Theorie) Phone: (49)(2461) 61 44 00
> Forschungszentrum Juelich Email: P.Buettiker@fz-juelich.de
> D-52425 Juelich
> Germany
>
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>
>
>
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Tel: +49-271-740-4724
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: postleitzahlenprogramm mit api?
Date: 13 Jul 1998 23:27:13 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
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boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) wrote:
> suche ein postleitzahlenprogramm (auf strassenebene) mit API fuer NS/OS.
Dann nimm' doch NXplz.app samt zugehöriger Datenbank. Liegt auf den Servern.
Funktioniert prima.
Tschau
Uli
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From: tomi@koala. (Tomi Engel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: 14 Jul 1998 08:03:00 GMT
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen, Germany
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Hallo,
am Donnerstag den 16.7.98 findet im Rechenzentrum an der Uni Erlangen das
MacCampus Treffen statt. Es wird die aktuelle Apple-Produktpalette vorgeführt
(PowerMac, PowerBook G3 Serie und Apple Studio Display) und ein Ausblick auf
den iMac gegeben.
Auf Seiten der Software wird neben allgemeiner Infos zu Apples
Betriebssystemstrategie besonders auf Mac OS X eingegangen und die
DR2-Version von Rhapsody vorgeführt.
Ort des Geschehens ist der Raum 2.049 im 2. Stock des RRZE (Martensstraße 1,
91058 Erlangen) von 14 bis 17 Uhr.
Aloha
Tomi
Date: 14 Jul 1998 10:49:00 +0100
From: nuppy@nuppy.harz.de (Niels Coelle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Message-ID: <6xrJUk5CLiB@nuppy.harz.de>
References: <6xbGne$xLiB@nuppy.harz.de> <6xfHAFIxLiB@nuppy.harz.de>
<6o75v3$bh8$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <6xnIfRwCLiB@nuppy.harz.de>
<6od5r9$2se@pizzastation.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: Prob. mit neuem Board
Hallo Arne!
sieg@xxx.uni-muenchen.de meinte am 13.07.98
zum Thema "Re: Prob. mit neuem Board":
> Probiers doch mal mit einem neuen SCSI Treiber. Du schriebst
> etwas von Adaptec V. 3.37 oder so aehnlich. Gab es da nicht
> massive Probleme mit? Ein neuer Treiber soll aber schon seit
> einiger Zeit existieren.
Zum einen habe ich keinen neueren Treiber als v3.37 gefunden und zum
anderen lief der Treiber mit dem alten Board.
Ich hatte auch schon auf einen Hardwarefehler getippt, da WIN95 meinen DAT-
Streamer nicht ansprechen kann. Ein testweise installiertes FreeBSD konnte
aber problemlos und fehlerlos DAT-Tapes schreiben und lesen.
Mir ist jetzt aber folgendes aufgefallen: Bei meinem Board handelt es sich
um ein ATX Board mit USB (nicht aktiviert). Nach dem Absturz funktioniert
der AN/AUS-Taster nicht mehr! Es muss also etwas mit dem Chipsatz (TX)
oder dem BIOS (Award 4.51 ??) zu tun haben. Dann muessten aber noch mehr
Leute Probleme damit haben.
cu
Niels
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From: Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Prob. mit neuem Board
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:21:55 +0200
Organization: Customer of EUnet Austria
Message-ID: <35AB2333.3009@softlab.co.at>
References: <6xbGne$xLiB@nuppy.harz.de> <6xfHAFIxLiB@nuppy.harz.de>
<6o75v3$bh8$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <6xnIfRwCLiB@nuppy.harz.de>
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Niels Coelle wrote:
....
> Zum einen habe ich keinen neueren Treiber als v3.37 gefunden und zum
Es gibt: Version 3.39, as NeXTanswer #2077
Max
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Next Specials
From: sales@deepspacetech.com (DeepSpace Technologies)
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We are running a special on the following equipment. The special will run
from July 13, 1998 and end July 31, 1998.
1). Next Starting point kit: Contains Keyboard, Mouse, (Either mono station
monitor cable or Color station Y monitor cable) and Next original power cord.
NON ADB version Mono - $59.00
NON ADB version Color - $69.00
ADB version Mono - $79.00
ADB version Color - $89.00
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Subject: FS:Next Computer Hardware
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: postleitzahlenprogramm mit api?
Date: 14 Jul 1998 13:42:12 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / CC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6ofn7k$phi$1@newshost>
References: <6oe54h$8kt$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
In article <6oe54h$8kt$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) writes:
> boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) wrote:
> > suche ein postleitzahlenprogramm (auf strassenebene) mit API fuer NS/OS.
>
> Dann nimm' doch NXplz.app samt zugeh riger Datenbank. Liegt auf den Servern.
> Funktioniert prima.
Alternativ gibt es noch das perl Script von Andreas
Koppenhoefer, zu dem ich ein NEXTSTEP Frontend
geschrieben habe. Beides zu finden auf PEANUTS:
2611 Jul 14 93 NEXTSTEP/database/plz/plz.perl.1.3.README
30565 Jul 14 93 NEXTSTEP/database/plz/plz.perl.1.3.b.tar.gz
5787770 Jul 14 93 NEXTSTEP/database/plz/plz.perl.1.3.d.tar.gz
33010 Jul 12 93 NEXTSTEP/database/plz/plz.perl_frontend.1.8.N.bs.tar.gz
3780 Jul 12 93 NEXTSTEP/database/plz/plz.perl_frontend.1.8.README
Detlev
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From: bsmolny@primera.bgc-jena.mpg.de (Bertram Smolny)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: 14 Jul 1998 15:29:17 GMT
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Message-ID: <6oftgd$gdf$1@gwdu19.gwdg.de>
References: <6of3bk$p6j$2@rznews.rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
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Cc: tomi@koala.
In <6of3bk$p6j$2@rznews.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> Tomi Engel wrote:
>
> am Donnerstag den 16.7.98 findet im Rechenzentrum an der Uni Erlangen das
> Auf Seiten der Software wird neben allgemeiner Infos zu Apples
> Betriebssystemstrategie besonders auf Mac OS X eingegangen und die
> DR2-Version von Rhapsody vorgeföhrt.
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vielleicht kannst Du dann ja mal der interressierten Gemeinde berichten,
was MacOS X/server so ist
;-)
ist es nun Unix oder ???
oder gibts es jemanden, der das schon weiss ...
Mit freundlichen Gruessen
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MPI f. Biogeochemie Fax: ++49 3641/64-3710
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From: "Promolitius" <promo@gmx.net>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.amiga.comm,de.comp.sys.amiga.misc,de.comp.sys.amiga.tech,de.comp.sys.amiga.unix,de.comp.sys.ibm-pc,de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.misc,de.comp.sys.newton,de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.novell,de.comp.sys.st
Subject: Sorry! WISO-Tip: Call-by-Call von Mobiltelefon für nur 38 / 20 Pf Min. (1/1sek.Takt) Keine weiteren Kosten!
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:58:31 +0200
Organization: 1 & 1 Internet Anwender
Message-ID: <6ogfk5$39q$18@news.online.de>
Hi,hi!
Erstmal ein dickes SORRY,SORRY,SORRY! Dies ist ein Posting, daß vom
eigentlichen Thema dieser Newsgroup abweicht. Dennoch denke ich, daß
diese Mail evtl. nicht uninteressant sein dürfte!
BETREFF: WISO-Empfehlung: Call-by-Call jetzt auch über C, D1, D2, E+
Netz für 38 Pf/min.(tag), 20 Pf/min.(abend); Takt 1/1
sek.
Hier nun meine Info zum Thema billig.mobil.telefonieren:
Der Anbieter heißt First Telecom (gibts seit 94). Das ist eine englische
Gesellschaft, die ihren deutschen Sitz in Frankfurt Niederrad hat. Sie
bietet Call - by -Call Telefonie (ist mit bestehendem Vertrag jedes
Mobilfunkanbieters möglich) aus dem Fest- und Mobilfunknetz zu
identischen Preisen an und definiert sich selbst als serviceorientiert. Bei
First kostet z.B. ein Gespräch ins deutsche Festnetz Mo. - Fr. zwischen
8 - 18 Uhr 38 Pfennig á Minute. In der übrigen Zeit werden nur
20 Pf. berechnet. Ein Gespräch nach GB/USA kostet 60/56 bzw. 46 Pf./min.,
und in die Ukraine telefonierst Du für nur 1,15 DM á Minute (wenn Du
willst). Abgerechnet wird im Sekundentakt! Natürlich erst nach dem
Herstellen der Verbindung! Eine ausführliche Preisliste habe ich als
HTML angehängt. Zur Einwahl wird eine kostenlose 0800 Rufnummer
genutzt. Somit fallen keine Gebühren bei Deinem Mobilfunk-Provider an.
(Frag vorsichtshalber bei deinem Provider nach, ober der für ALLE 01
30 / 0800 Nummern keine Gebühren erhebt!Einige wenige Anbieter
zocken da ab !)
Um das Angebot zu nutzen, muß man sich bei First Telecom unter 0800-376 0800
anmelden. Das Angebot basiert auf Guthabentelefonie, d.h. Du mußt per
Kreditkarte / Überweisung ein Guthaben bei First einzahlen. Wenn Du per
Kreditkarte zahlst, kannst Du sofort lostelefonieren. Bei Deinem
Mobiltelefon sollte die abgehende Rufnummernübermittlung freigeschaltet
sein, damit First erkennt auf wessen Konto sie das Telefonat zu verbuchen
hat. Andernfalls, müßtest Du bei jeder Einwahl über die 0800er Nummer
(0800-8009201) Deine Kundennummer + PIN eingeben. Und das macht dann ja auch
keinen Spaß mehr, oder? Vor jedem Gespräch über das First-Netz, kannst Du
durch ein Ansage erfahren, wie hoch Dein Guthaben noch ist, und danach wie
teuer das Gespräch war. Außer den Gesprächsgebühren fallen keine weiteren
Gebühren / Mindestumsätze an. Auf Wunsch erhälst Du eine
Einzelverbindungsübersicht per Post. Das eingezahlte Guthaben verfällt
nicht, und wird bei Vertagsende selbstverständlich zurückerstattet. Es gibt
auch keine Mindestlaufzeit. Bei solchen Bedingungen kann mobil telefonieren
doch endlich mal Spaß machen, oder? Entspannt telefonieren,ohne nervigen
Kostendruck. Und jetzt kommt das beste, für das Weiterempfehlen dieses
einmaligen Angebots (ohne Haken!!!!) bekommt man sogar 10 oder 20 DM auf
sein Kundenkonto gutgeschrieben, wenn der neue Kunde bei der ersten
Einzahlung mitteilt von wem er diese Emfehlung hat und dessen
Kundennummer angibt.
Hast Du noch Fragen??? Dann mail mich an: Lutz.Hohle@gmx.net. Oder frag
direkt bei First nach!
Wenn Du Dich anmelden möchtest würde ich mich natürlich freuen,
wenn Du mich -Lutz Hohle-
und mein First-Kto.Nr. -33 56 38 4-
als Infoqelle angibst, Dir entstehen in keinem Fall Nachteile dadurch!!!
Bei einer Ersteinzahlung von unter 100 DM erhält der Werber 10 DM,
ab 100 DM 20 DM Gutschrift auf sein Telefonkonto! Sofort anmelden
ist unter Tel. 0800 376 0 800
kostenlos möglich. Mann muß öfters wählen, da seit Existenz dieses
Angebotes (3.Juli) täglich über 8000 Leute anrufen und dadurch die
Service- Hotline meißt bestetz ist. Aber Sie arbeiten daran!
Lediglich Infos erhälst Du unter 0180 2 / 67 21 84
(12 Pf pro Anruf)!
Viel Spaß beim telefonieren
Lutz
Lutz.Hohle@gmx.de
PS.: Ich habe das Angebot sehr kritisch geprüft und konnte NICHTS negatives
entdecken! Und es wurde gestern Abend in WISO empfohlen!!!!!! Und natürlich
bin ich selber Kunde!
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: F: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...
Date: 14 Jul 1998 05:52:48 GMT
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In <35AA3876.733D14DD@lavielle.com> Valentino Kyriakides wrote:
> Bis dato benutze ich selbst FrameMaker und manchmal OpenWrite, da jedoch
meine Freundin nun meine NeXTstation
> auch zum Schreiben von Briefen etc. benutzen moechte habe ich folgende
bedenken:
>
> - FrameMaker: ist zwar nach wie vor das Leistungsfaehigste System unter
NS, jedoch wohl zu komplex und zu
> umstaendlich fuer sie. Hinzu kommt das es keine eingedeutschte NS
Version gibt.
Mach Deiner Freundin zwei gute Templates, dann kannst Du 90% der Komplexität
von ihr fernhalten. Es gibt zwar keine deutsche Version, aber zumindest eine
deutsche Silbentrennung. Und wer sich nur ein klein wenig in Framemaker
eingearbeitet hat, versteht nicht mehr, wie sich andere Leute mit Word abquäl
en können.
Gruß,
Markus
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From: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NextStep on Windows NT
Date: 15 Jul 1998 09:16:47 GMT
Organization: Oldenburger Informations-Systeme, FRG
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Message-ID: <6ohs1v$6j1@hazel.north.de>
Ich habe eine NextStep-3.3 Applikation, die jetzt an Kunden verkauft
werden soll, die vorwiegend Windows-NT benutzen.
NextStep-3.3 fuer Intel ist keine Loesung, da ein Umbooten den Kunden, und
der Support fuer die unzaehligen Intel-Driver mir nicht zumutbar ist.
Jetzt sehe ich zwei Moeglichkeiten:
1. OpenStep
1a. Ich braeuchte einen Windows-NT Computer.
1b. Ich braeuchte eine Entwicklungsumgebung dafuer. Wie heisst dies
Produkt? Was kostet es?
1c. Ein Kunde braeuchte soetwas wie eine OpenStep Library. Wie heisst
dies Produkt? Was kostet es?
2. Rhapsody (oder Max OS-X Server)
2a. Koennte man die Entwicklung auch auf einer G3 Maschine machen?
Oder braucht man einen Windows-NT Computer?
2b. Gibt es schon eine Entwicklungsumgebung? Oder nur einen Developer
Release? Wie heisst das Ding, was kostet es, ab wann ist es verfuegbar
(respektive: wie wird man Apple Developer)?
2c. Wie heisst die OpenStep-Library Yellow-Box genau? Was kostet sie?
Was spraeche f r Alternative 1? Was spraeche dagegen?
Unter www.apple.de habe ich keine Antworten auf meine Fragen gefunden.
In der Hoffnung, dass es NextStep Entwickler gibt, die einen groesseren
Durchblick als ich haben,
verbleibe ich
mit freundlichen Gruessen
Gerriet.
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NextStep on Windows NT
Date: 15 Jul 1998 10:08:00 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6ohv20$5jb$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann) wrote:
>Ich habe eine NextStep-3.3 Applikation, die jetzt an Kunden verkauft
>werden soll, die vorwiegend Windows-NT benutzen.
>
>NextStep-3.3 fuer Intel ist keine Loesung, da ein Umbooten den Kunden, und
>der Support fuer die unzaehligen Intel-Driver mir nicht zumutbar ist.
Ja, leider wahr.
>Jetzt sehe ich zwei Moeglichkeiten:
>
>1. OpenStep
>1a. Ich braeuchte einen Windows-NT Computer.
Ja, leider auch wahr. :-)
>1b. Ich braeuchte eine Entwicklungsumgebung dafuer. Wie heisst dies
>Produkt? Was kostet es?
Am besten wirst du Mitglied im Apple EAP Programm. Wenn du dir das nicht
leisten kannst, das Produkt heisst OPENSTEP Enterprise. Alternativ
bekommst du ueber das Apple Developer Programm MacOS X Server DR2 und
YB Windows, damit kann man auch einigermassen arbeiten. Fuer den Kunden
brauchst du dann aber das *Produkt*, nicht die Beta.
>1c. Ein Kunde braeuchte soetwas wie eine OpenStep Library. Wie heisst
>dies Produkt? Was kostet es?
Es soll spaeter kostenlos, oder sehr preisguenstig sein. Im Moment ist
eine OPENSTEP Runtime immer noch recht teuer, und wird nur im Paket
verkauft. Den Preis hab ich jetzt nicht parat - frag mal bei Apple.
>2. Rhapsody (oder Max OS-X Server)
>2a. Koennte man die Entwicklung auch auf einer G3 Maschine machen?
>Oder braucht man einen Windows-NT Computer?
Du kannst unter Rhapsody entwickeln, auch unter OPENSTEP. Du solltest
aber eNTe _haben_ - wie willst du sonst das Deployment testen? Eine
preisguenstige Alternative ist ein Dual-Boot Rechner. Ich persoenlich
bevorzuge eine seperate Platte mit OPENSTEP, damit eNTe nicht dein
Entwicklungssystem zerschiessen kann.
>2b. Gibt es schon eine Entwicklungsumgebung? Oder nur einen Developer
>Release? Wie heisst das Ding, was kostet es, ab wann ist es verfuegbar
>(respektive: wie wird man Apple Developer)?
Es gibt ein DR mit einer ganz brauchbaren Entwicklungsumgebung.
>2c. Wie heisst die OpenStep-Library Yellow-Box genau? Was kostet sie?
"Yellow Box for Windows NT/95"
>Was spraeche fuer Alternative 1? Was spraeche dagegen?
Mit Alternative 1 kannst du morgen schon ein Produkt ausliefern, mit
Alternative 2 kannst du es nur entwicklen und testen, musst aber bis
zum Herbst warten, bis du vom Kunden Geld bekommst.
Sinnvoller Vorschlag: kauf erst mal OPENSTEP 4.2 und portiere dorthin.
>Unter www.apple.de habe ich keine Antworten auf meine Fragen gefunden.
>
>In der Hoffnung, dass es NextStep Entwickler gibt, die einen groesseren
>Durchblick als ich haben,
Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die davon leben. Uebrigens: An deiner Stelle
wuerde ich unbedingt die NEXTTOYOU abbonieren (Disclaimer: ich bin in der
Redaktion). Eine Menge wichtiger Neuigkeiten und technischer Artikel, auch
zum Thema OPENSTEP/ENTE, WebObjects, MacOS X.
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From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
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Subject: Re: F: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:34:00 +0200
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Markus Wenzel wrote:
> In <35AA3876.733D14DD@lavielle.com> Valentino Kyriakides wrote:
>
> > Bis dato benutze ich selbst FrameMaker und manchmal OpenWrite, da jedoch
> meine Freundin nun meine NeXTstation
> > auch zum Schreiben von Briefen etc. benutzen moechte habe ich folgende
> bedenken:
> >
> > - FrameMaker: ist zwar nach wie vor das Leistungsfaehigste System unter
> NS, jedoch wohl zu komplex und zu
> > umstaendlich fuer sie. Hinzu kommt das es keine eingedeutschte NS
> Version gibt.
>
> Mach Deiner Freundin zwei gute Templates, dann kannst Du 90% der Komplexität
> von ihr fernhalten. Es gibt zwar keine deutsche Version, aber zumindest eine
> deutsche Silbentrennung. Und wer sich nur ein klein wenig in Framemaker
> eingearbeitet hat, versteht nicht mehr, wie sich andere Leute mit Word abquäl
> en können.
Yup, sie hat bereits einige Frame Templates fuer Standard Briefe und andere Dokumente.
Doch manchmal, scheint ihr das nicht genug zu sein ;-) bzw. moechte sie die Templates
flexibel umgestalten. - Das ist jedoch nicht so einfach, wenn man eigentlich keine Ahnung
von FrameMaker hat (naja, unter anderen Textverarbeitungsprogrammen waere das natuerlich
genau so, siehe WP, Word etc.).
Ich denke, ich sollte mit ihr einen Crashkurs fuer Frame machen. - Die 10 Kilo engl. Doku
moechte ich ihr nicht zumuten, aber eventl. den Gulbins zu FrameMaker.
Auf jeden Fall danke erst einmal an Markus Wenzel fuer den Meinungsaustausch,!!!
Gruss Valentino
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From: "Julius Bahr" <Bahr_Julius@lsg.musin.de>
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Subject: DualBoot mit Rhapsody und MacOS
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Halli hallo
keines kurzes problem:
ich benutze einen 8500 mit 2 festpladden. auf der einen l=E4uft MacOS 8.1D au=
f
der anderen Rhapsody DR2. ich hab irgendwie mitgekriegt da=DF ich das
originale 8.1 in der MacOS.app als systemordner benutzen kann. das h=E4tte
konkret den vorteil, da=DF alle libraries schon an ihrem platz sind und da=DF
ich sehr viel mehr platz f=FCr programme habe. nur wie =FCberzeuge ich rhapsody
die interne platte als Blue Box sytemordner zu akzeptieren.
Danke f=FCr die Hilfe schon mal im voraus
Julius
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Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> wrote:
> Ich denke, ich sollte mit ihr einen Crashkurs fuer Frame machen.
> - Die 10 Kilo engl. Doku moechte ich ihr nicht zumuten, aber
> eventl. den Gulbins zu FrameMaker.
^^^^^^^
Was'n das? Ich hätte da auch eine Freundin mit FrameMaker und Fragen... ;-)
Tschau
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
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Subject: wav-Dateien?
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Hi,
was nimmt man denn zum Abspielen von wav-Dateien unter NEXTSTEP? Ich hab' auf
die Schnelle nix finden können.
Danke für Antworten!
Tschau
Uli
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From: krauss@e-technik.tu-muenchen.de
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Hi Uli,
ich hab GISO. Ob es was besseres gibt, weiss ich nicht.
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/./NEXTSTEP/audio/converter/GISO.3.3.NIH.b.tar.gz
Ciao
Peter
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From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com>
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Subject: Re: DualBoot mit Rhapsody und MacOS
Date: 16 Jul 1998 09:17:25 GMT
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"Julius Bahr" <Bahr_Julius@lsg.musin.de> wrote:
> Halli hallo
>
> keines kurzes problem:
> ich benutze einen 8500 mit 2 festpladden. auf der einen läuft MacOS 8.1D
> auf
> der anderen Rhapsody DR2. ich hab irgendwie mitgekriegt daß ich das
> originale 8.1 in der MacOS.app als systemordner benutzen kann. das hätte
> konkret den vorteil, daß alle libraries schon an ihrem platz sind und daß
> ich sehr viel mehr platz für programme habe. nur wie überzeuge ich
> rhapsody die interne platte als Blue Box sytemordner zu akzeptieren.
> Danke für die Hilfe schon mal im voraus
Erstmal MacOS.app mit dem englischen 8.1 starten. Dann sollte automatisch die
8.1D Platte auf dem Schreibtisch erscheinen. Jetzt kopierst du die folgenden
Dateien von der englischen Version in die deutsche:
- aus dem Systemorder: BlueBox
- aus den Systemerweiterungen: BlueDaemon
- aus den Kontrollfeldern: Monitor, Sound
Schliesslich noch in dem 8.1D Systemorder das kombibierte Monitor&Ton
Kontrollfeld löschen und die 8.1D Platte als Startvolume angeben.
Ich habe aber das Gefühl, daß diese Kombination nicht soo stabil läuft wie
sie es sollte. Vielleicht liegt's aber auch daran, daß bei meinem 8.1D System
mehr Erweiterungen installiert sind als in dem MacOS.app Systemordner.
viel Glück
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From: "Sebastian Bähr" <sbaehr@rcs.urz.tu-dresden.de>
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Subject: the previous next
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:50:56 +0200
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Hallo,
ich arbeite gerade an einem Aufsatz ueber die Entwicklung
graph.Benutzeroberflaechen. Da moechte ich NeXT natuerlich nicht
ueberspringen. An unserer Uni kann ich auf NS 3.3 und OS 4.x zugreifen.
Nun wuerden mich aber die vorhergenden Versionen interessieren (NS 1.0
bis NS 3.2). Welche Aenderungen gab es von Version zu Version, bes.
bezogen auf das GUI? (Hat das sich ueberhaupt geaendert?) Wenn also
jemand noch ein paar Screenshots oder irgendetwas Interessantes in
dieser Richtung aufzuweisen hat, faende ich es wundertoll, koennten wir
da irgendwie in Kontakt kommen.
Mir fehlen auch noch ein paar Daten, um eine komplette NS-History
aufzustellen. Bis jetzt habe ich nur die groben Jahreszahlen, die mal in
der einen Ausgabe der iX (ueber Rhapsody DR1?) standen. Wenn jemand noch
ein paar Daten auftreiben kann, bitte melden!
Antwort auch nach sbaehr@rcs.urz.tu-dresden.de moeglich.
Schon mal danke und mit ballistischem Gruss
SB
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
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Subject: Re: F: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 14:09:49 +0200
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Uli Zappe wrote:
> Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> wrote:
> > Ich denke, ich sollte mit ihr einen Crashkurs fuer Frame machen.
> > - Die 10 Kilo engl. Doku moechte ich ihr nicht zumuten, aber
> > eventl. den Gulbins zu FrameMaker.
> ^^^^^^^
>
> Was'n das? Ich hätte da auch eine Freundin mit FrameMaker und Fragen... ;-)
>
>
Na sowas! - Falls noch ein paar Freundinnen mit FrameMaker und Fragen...
auftauchen, koennen wir ja ein Seminar abhalten ;-)
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From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
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Subject: Re: wav-Dateien?
Date: 16 Jul 1998 11:18:09 GMT
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Uli Zappe wrote:
> was nimmt man denn zum Abspielen von wav-Dateien unter NEXTSTEP? Ich hab'
auf
> die Schnelle nix finden können.
Resound kann 'normale' WAVs einladen. Leider sind viele WAVs mit Microsoft
ADCMP Kompression ganz hervorragend vor Crossplatformübergriffen geschützt,
und die liest auch Resound nicht.
Es gibt m.W. nach keinen freien M$ ADCMP WAV Decoder..sonst hätte
ich ihn schon längst portiert. :-(
Holger
From: Markus Trenkle <markus.trenkle@krist.uni-erlangen.de>
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Subject: Re: DualBoot mit Rhapsody und MacOS
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 18:29:14 +0200
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> Erstmal MacOS.app mit dem englischen 8.1 starten. Dann sollte automatisch ...
Und das geht? Bei mir funktioniert es nicht mit einem deutschen OS! Er
bootet zwar, will aber einige Erweiterungen und Zeichensaetze nicht
laden, das Ergebnis ist ein fast unbrauchbares System.
Markus
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uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) writes:
> Hi,
>
> was nimmt man denn zum Abspielen von wav-Dateien unter NEXTSTEP? Ich
hab' auf
> die Schnelle nix finden k nnen.
>
EditSound.app oder Giso.app
waeren da zu nennen.
Wobei ich editsound preferieren wuerde
da er sofort spielen kann!
Gruss aus Schwerte
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From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Subject: Re: sendmail
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In article <6o6ae5$1v3$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) writes:
> lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) wrote:
> > offensichtlich hat bei meiner sendmail Konfiguration alles
> > soweit hingehauen, dass er wenn er online (ppp)
> > ist alle Mails richtig an den Mailhost schickt.
> > Ist der Link down kommt eine Fehlermessage.
> > Wie kriege ich ihn dazu, dass er bis
> > zum Befehl senmail -q alles in eine Que schreibt???
>
> Wie w r's, wenn Du uns noch verr tst, *welche* Fehlermeldung Du
bekommst? ;-)
>
> Sachdienliche Infos ber die verwendete NEXTSTEP-Version w ren ebenfalls
kein
> Fehler. Das h ngt n mlich alles davon ab...
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also OS 4.2
sendmail 8.8.8 mit dem angepassten sendmail cf fuer
t-online aus der NeXttoyou und die Meldung ist das er
den mailhost nicht findet! Kann er ja auch nicht weil
ppp ja down ist.
Die Frage ist wie bringe ich ihm bei den Kram bis zum pppup
in eine Que zu schreiben??
In der Hoffnung auf Hilfe
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Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> wrote:
> Uli Zappe wrote:
> > Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> wrote:
> > > Ich denke, ich sollte mit ihr einen Crashkurs fuer Frame machen.
> > > - Die 10 Kilo engl. Doku moechte ich ihr nicht zumuten, aber
> > > eventl. den Gulbins zu FrameMaker.
> > ^^^^^^^
> > Was'n das? Ich hätte da auch eine Freundin mit FrameMaker und Fragen...
> > ;-)
> Na sowas! - Falls noch ein paar Freundinnen mit FrameMaker und Fragen...
> auftauchen, koennen wir ja ein Seminar abhalten ;-)
Ja grmbl, was isses denn nu?
Tschau
Uli
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: F: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...
Date: 16 Jul 1998 06:03:58 GMT
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In <6ojf4u$282$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
> Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> wrote:
> > Ich denke, ich sollte mit ihr einen Crashkurs fuer Frame machen.
> > - Die 10 Kilo engl. Doku moechte ich ihr nicht zumuten, aber
> > eventl. den Gulbins zu FrameMaker.
> ^^^^^^^
Der Gulbins ist ein sehr gutes, didaktisch aufgebautes Buch zu FrameMaker.
Ich hab noch die Ausgabe zu FrameMaker 3.
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From: jsreeb@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: NeXTStep für Intel
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 04:37:01 GMT
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Hallo!
Ich bin auf der Suche nach NeXTStep für Intel ab Version 3.2 (User oder
Developer). Wenn jemand eines zuviel hat oder einfach so eins loswerden will,
soll er/sie sich doch bitte mal bei mir melden.
Tchüßchen
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: F: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...
Date: 17 Jul 1998 07:08:41 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6omt9p$he21@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
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Uli Zappe (uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de) wrote:
: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> wrote:
: > Uli Zappe wrote:
: > > Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> wrote:
: > > > Ich denke, ich sollte mit ihr einen Crashkurs fuer Frame machen.
: > > > - Die 10 Kilo engl. Doku moechte ich ihr nicht zumuten, aber
: > > > eventl. den Gulbins zu FrameMaker.
: > > ^^^^^^^
: > > Was'n das? Ich hätte da auch eine Freundin mit FrameMaker und Fragen...
: > > ;-)
: > Na sowas! - Falls noch ein paar Freundinnen mit FrameMaker und Fragen...
: > auftauchen, koennen wir ja ein Seminar abhalten ;-)
:
: Ja grmbl, was isses denn nu?
*Der* Gulbins (das ist ein Mensch, Autor, es wird aber meistens das Buch/
die Buecher(?) auch so bezeichnet :-)) ist ein Buch ueber "Unix" mit diesem
Titel in verschiedenen Auflagen (Springer, das Buch mit der "Raupe").
Entweder ist es eine Referenz darauf, oder Juergen Gulbins hat auch ein
Buch ueber FramMaker geschrieben, oder es ist eine 'Bibel' zu FrameMaker
gemeint, so wie es "der Gulbins" fuer UNIX (im Deutschen) ist.
Was von den drei Dingen, weiss ich leider auch nicht.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: Oliver Roters <roters@KHIS.KRUPP.COM>
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Subject: Re: Sorry! WISO-Tip: Call-by-Call von Mobiltelefon fr nur 38 / 20 Pf Min. (1/1sek.Takt) Keine weiteren Kosten!
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:48:36 +0200
Organization: Krupp Hoesch Informationsverarbeitung
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Was macht das hier im Forum ??? *kopfschüttel*
Peter Moeckli schrieb:
> Hi Promolitius
>
> Du begingst folgende schwerwiegende Fehler:
>
> - Komplett Off-Topic
>
> - Binary in Diskussionsgruppen
>
> - X-treme X-Posting
>
> - SPAM
>
> Das gibt folgendes Urteil:
>
> *P* *L* *O* *N* *K*
>
> Lebenslaenglich, ohne Bewaehrung, ohne Moeglichkeit auf Begnadigung...
>
> CU
> Peter
>
> --
> _________ ____ _________ __ _________________
> ,-----/__ ____/\/\/ __/--/__ ___ \/\ \/ / __/ / _______ \-----,
> | / // // \ \ | | / \ / _// /\ \ | / |
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> ¯¯ ¯¯ ¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯ ¯ ¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯
> Somewhere in time
From: Henrik Hempelmann <marsu@in-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: sendmail
Date: 17 Jul 1998 07:45:28 +0200
Organization: Palumbian Networks
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lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) writes:
>> lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) wrote:
>> > Wie kriege ich ihn dazu, dass er bis
>> > zum Befehl senmail -q alles in eine Que schreibt???
>--
>Ok, Ok nicht schlagen,
>also OS 4.2
>sendmail 8.8.8 mit dem angepassten sendmail cf fuer
>t-online aus der NeXttoyou und die Meldung ist das er
>den mailhost nicht findet! Kann er ja auch nicht weil
>ppp ja down ist.
>Die Frage ist wie bringe ich ihm bei den Kram bis zum pppup
>in eine Que zu schreiben??
Reicht es nicht, den Mailer als 'expensive' zu markieren, damit
er alles queued?
Henrik
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: F: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...
Date: 17 Jul 1998 11:25:34 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6oncbe$5lg$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
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phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) wrote:
>*Der* Gulbins (das ist ein Mensch, Autor, es wird aber meistens das Buch/
>die Buecher(?) auch so bezeichnet :-)) ist ein Buch ueber "Unix" mit diesem
>Titel in verschiedenen Auflagen (Springer, das Buch mit der
> "Raupe").
^^^^^
ist das "wunix", der unix-wurm? (habe frueher mal ein unix-buch mit "wunix"
gelesen, fand es aber eher so mittel)
daniel
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: F: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...
Date: 17 Jul 1998 12:41:50 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6ongqe$bon$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) wrote:
>phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) wrote:
>>*Der* Gulbins (das ist ein Mensch, Autor, es wird aber meistens das Buch/
>>die Buecher(?) auch so bezeichnet :-)) ist ein Buch ueber "Unix" mit diesem
>>Titel in verschiedenen Auflagen (Springer, das Buch mit der
>> "Raupe").
> ^^^^^
>
>ist das "wunix", der unix-wurm? (habe frueher mal ein unix-buch mit "wunix"
>gelesen, fand es aber eher so mittel)
Ge-nau.... Wunix.. Mann, ist das lange her, ueber zehn Jahre. Das Buch
von Gulbins emfpehle ich nach wie vor jedem UNIX (OPENSTEP, LINUX...)
Einsteiger. Wenn Juergen Gulbins auch ueber FrameMaker geschrieben
hat, ist das Buch didaktisch sicher excellent, und gut lesbar.
Gruese, Chris
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From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Subject: Re: sendmail
Message-ID: <Ew8xrM.8D@vergil.ping.de>
Sender: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Organization: Black Box - NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:59:46 GMT
In article <6omodo$bnr$1@palumbia.in-berlin.de> Henrik Hempelmann
<marsu@in-berlin.de> writes:
> lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) writes:
> >> lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) wrote:
> >> > Wie kriege ich ihn dazu, dass er bis
> >> > zum Befehl senmail -q alles in eine Que schreibt???
>
> >--
> >Ok, Ok nicht schlagen,
> >also OS 4.2
> >sendmail 8.8.8 mit dem angepassten sendmail cf fuer
> >t-online aus der NeXttoyou und die Meldung ist das er
> >den mailhost nicht findet! Kann er ja auch nicht weil
> >ppp ja down ist.
> >Die Frage ist wie bringe ich ihm bei den Kram bis zum pppup
> >in eine Que zu schreiben??
>
> Reicht es nicht, den Mailer als 'expensive' zu markieren, damit
> er alles queued?
>
> Henrik
> --
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>
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> individual network berlin - internet von privat fuer privat
Sorry wie als Experte im Mail.app als sendmal -c
geht nicht
also im sendmail.cf file
aber wie?
Bis denn
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From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Subject: Gulbins ISBN Nummer (war: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...)
Message-ID: <Ew8y86.99@vergil.ping.de>
Sender: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:09:41 GMT
Ok,
ich habe auch so eine Freundin und
habe es dewegen angeschafft:
J rgen Gulbins
Desktop Publishing mit
Frame Maker
F r Unix und Macintosch- Systeme
iXOS
Springer Verlag
ISBN 3-540-54455-0
von der R ckseite des Buches:
,, DTP mit FrameMaker" gibt eine
umfassende Einf hrung in das
Programm und erkl rt detailliert
seine Funktionsweise sowie alle
Kommandos und das breite
Spektrum seiner M glichkeiten
Es zeigt, wie mit Hilfe von ,,Frame"
sowohl einfache als auch umfang-
reiche und komplexe Dokumente
erstellt und bearbeitet werden
k nnen. Dar ber hinaus gibt das
Buch eine Einf hrung in die Grund-
begriffe und die wesentlichen
Grundregeln der Typographie f r
DTP und deren Umsetzung mit
,, FrameMaker"
Es ist ein hervorragendes Arbeits-
und Referenzbuch sowohl f r die
Macintosh- als auch UNIX-Version
des Programms.
J rgen Gulbins, geboren am
1.12.1946, studierte Informatik an
der TU Karlsruhe, wo er als wissen-
schaftlicher Mitarbeiter f r Grafik,
Proze rechner und Workstations
t tig war.
Zwischen 1983 und 1990 arbei-
tete er bei der Firma PCS als UNIX-
Produktmanager und Abteilungs-
leiter f r die UNIX-Entwicklung und
am Aufbau der Entwicklungsstelle
Karlsruhe.
Dort entstanden Arbeiten im
Bereich Benutzeroberfl chen und
Archivierungssysteme.
Als Autor verschiedener B cher
und Zeitschriftenartikel besch ftigte
er sich mit den Themen RSX-ll M,
CAD, UNIX, Archivierungssysteme
und der technischen Dokumentation.
Seit Anfang 1991 ist er freier Be-
rater f r UNIX, technische Doku-
mentation u nd Archivierungssysteme.
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From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Gulbins ISBN Nummer (war: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...)
Date: 17 Jul 1998 21:27:48 GMT
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In <Ew8y86.99@vergil.ping.de> Lars-Ulrich Kahl wrote:
> ich habe auch so eine Freundin und
> habe es dewegen angeschafft:
Scheint das man solche Buecher nur fuer Freundinnen kauft, man sollte das mal
der Marktforschung des Verlages mitteilen! *eg*
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From: Henrik Hempelmann <marsu@in-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: sendmail
Date: 18 Jul 1998 10:17:55 +0200
Organization: Palumbian Networks
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lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) writes:
><marsu@in-berlin.de> writes:
>> >> lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) wrote:
>> >> > Wie kriege ich ihn dazu, dass er bis
>> >> > zum Befehl senmail -q alles in eine Que schreibt???
>>
>> Reicht es nicht, den Mailer als 'expensive' zu markieren, damit
>> er alles queued?
>>
>Sorry wie als Experte im Mail.app als sendmal -c
>geht nicht
>also im sendmail.cf file
>aber wie?
aus: INSTALLATION AND OPERATION GUIDE
doc/op/op.[me|ps]
5.4. M -- Define Mailer
....
Mname, {field=value}*
...
Flags Special flags for this mailer
....
e This mailer is expensive to connect to, so try to
avoid connecting normally; any necessary connec-
tion will occur during a queue run.
...
5.6. O -- Set Option
...
HoldExpensive
[c] If an outgoing mailer is marked as being
expensive, don't connect immediately. This
requires that queueing be compiled in, since
it will depend on a queue run process to
actually send the mail.
also in sendmail.cf:
Msmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuX, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990,
wird zu
Msmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuXe, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990,
bzw. fuer esmtp ...
und
# avoid connecting to "expensive" mailers on initial submission?
O HoldExpensive=True
bzw. wenn Du Dir ein cf-file aus dem m4-Macros erstellt hast:
define(`confCON_EXPENSIVE',`True')
define(`SMTP_MAILER_FLAGS',`e')
Henrik
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Subject: Re: Sorry! WISO-Tip: Call-by-Call von Mobiltelefon fr nur 38 / 20 Pf Min. (1/1sek.Takt) Keine weiteren Kosten!
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:57:06 +0200
Organization: Fachhochschule Heilbronn
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Oliver Roters wrote:
> Was macht das hier im Forum ??? *kopfschüttel*
Wo? Welche NG meinst du? In dcsi ist es gerade aufgetaucht.....
Kann mir jemand das Ausgangsposting mailen?-)
regards
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-Lessing
From: reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de (Reinhard Wolf)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: V: NeXT Schnickschnack, SW, HW
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:39:57 GMT
Organization: University of Giessen, Germany
Message-ID: <35abafa1.812842@news.uni-giessen.de>
Hallo NeXTies,
hier noch die Ueberbleibsel der letzten Aufraeumaktion:
Software:
Scan-O-matic - Disk plus Handbuch -Vollversion
JetPilot - Disk plus handbuch - Demo only
Diagram! 1.0 - Schuber, Disks, Handbuch
VarioData 2.62 5 User - Schuber, Disks plus Handbuch
42 Tools, Karton, Disk, Handbuch
Buecher etc:
Das große NeXT Buch - Data Becker
Chip Inside - NeXT
3 Ausgaben NeXTworld
NeXT Prospekte
NeXT Preisliste
1 Quantum LPS210 aus Slab im Originalzustand und geprueft.....
Alles gegen Gebot!?
Reinhard
------------------
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Rodheimerstr. 30
35398 Giessen
Germany
email: reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
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Subject: Re: F: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:17:56 +0200
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Christian Neuss wrote:
> boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) wrote:
> >phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) wrote:
> >>*Der* Gulbins (das ist ein Mensch, Autor, es wird aber meistens das Buch/
> >>die Buecher(?) auch so bezeichnet :-)) ist ein Buch ueber "Unix" mit diesem
> >>Titel in verschiedenen Auflagen (Springer, das Buch mit der
> >> "Raupe").
> > ^^^^^
> >
> >ist das "wunix", der unix-wurm? (habe frueher mal ein unix-buch mit "wunix"
> >gelesen, fand es aber eher so mittel)
>
> Ge-nau.... Wunix.. Mann, ist das lange her, ueber zehn Jahre. Das Buch
> von Gulbins emfpehle ich nach wie vor jedem UNIX (OPENSTEP, LINUX...)
> Einsteiger. Wenn Juergen Gulbins auch ueber FrameMaker geschrieben
> hat, ist das Buch didaktisch sicher excellent, und gut lesbar.
>
Das Buch auf das ich mich bezogen habe ist in der hat ein Buch von Gulbins ueber
FrameMaker (TELOS Springer...). Das Buch ist ganz Ok und meines erachtens der
einzig brauchbare deutsche Titel zu FrameMaker, wenngleich es nicht so bekannt und
verbreitet wie das "Unix" Buch von Gulbins.
BTW, die Ausgabe die ich habe, reflektiert FrameMaker 3.0, also genau die fuer
NeXTstep verfuegbare Version.
Gruss VKyr
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From: Matthias Carda <matthias.carda@frankfurt.netsurf.de>
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Hallo allerseits !
Möchte denn jemand seine (Turbo-) Color Station loswerden (mit Monitor
usw.) ??
Ja, dann schickt mir doch ein Angebot...
Ciao
Matthias
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
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Date: 20 Jul 98 09:14:23 GMT
lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) wrote:
>
>EditSound.app oder Giso.app
>waeren da zu nennen.
>
>Wobei ich editsound preferieren wuerde
>da er sofort spielen kann!
... aber manchmal auch den Original-sound mit Nullen ueberschreibt ...
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
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Subject: Re: postleitzahlenprogramm mit api?
Date: 20 Jul 1998 10:23:19 GMT
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droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) wrote:
>In article <6oe54h$8kt$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
>uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) writes:
>> boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) wrote:
>> > suche ein postleitzahlenprogramm (auf strassenebene) mit API fuer NS/OS.
>>
>> Dann nimm' doch NXplz.app samt zugeh riger Datenbank. Liegt auf den Servern.
>> Funktioniert prima.
>
>Alternativ gibt es noch das perl Script von Andreas
>Koppenhoefer, zu dem ich ein NEXTSTEP Frontend
>geschrieben habe. Beides zu finden auf PEANUTS:
vielen dank fuer die hinweise (anfang der neunziger war noch vor meiner zeit [in sachen internet]).
habe eine openstep version mit DO-api zusammengebrezelt.
wenn das jemanden interessiert bitte mail an mich. ich wuerde dann eine distribution erstellen.
daniel
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
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Subject: Re: Gulbins ISBN Nummer (war: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...)
Date: 20 Jul 1998 12:18:51 GMT
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frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert) wrote:
>In <Ew8y86.99@vergil.ping.de> Lars-Ulrich Kahl wrote:
>> ich habe auch so eine Freundin und
>> habe es dewegen angeschafft:
>
>Scheint das man solche Buecher nur fuer Freundinnen kauft, man sollte
>das mal der Marktforschung des Verlages mitteilen! *eg*
Kann mir einer die ISBN Nummer dieser Freundinnen sagen? Ich wuerde auch
gerne eine bestellen.
Danke im voraus, Chris
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Christian Neuss wrote:
> Kann mir einer die ISBN Nummer dieser Freundinnen sagen? Ich wuerde auch
> gerne eine bestellen.
man nslookup
hth,
hh
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Date: 20 Jul 1998 15:51:25 GMT
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holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
>Christian Neuss wrote:
>> Kann mir einer die ISBN Nummer dieser Freundinnen sagen? Ich wuerde auch
>> gerne eine bestellen.
>
>man nslookup
Holgi, du Knoedel! Ich will doch nicht die IP Nummer.
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From: Henrik Hempelmann <marsu@in-berlin.de>
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Subject: Re: Gulbins ISBN Nummer (war: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...)
Date: 21 Jul 1998 07:44:55 +0200
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> writes:
>holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
>>Christian Neuss wrote:
>>> Kann mir einer die ISBN Nummer dieser Freundinnen sagen? Ich wuerde auch
>>> gerne eine bestellen.
>>
>>man nslookup
>Holgi, du Knoedel! Ich will doch nicht die IP Nummer.
>Chris
Freundinnen haben selten ISBN Nummern, meistens sind es >ISDN< Nummern.
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
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Subject: Re: wav-Dateien?
Date: 21 Jul 1998 09:46:04 GMT
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uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote:
>Hi,
>
>was nimmt man denn zum Abspielen von wav-Dateien unter NEXTSTEP? Ich hab'
auf
>die Schnelle nix finden können.
Ich benutze sox.
Das geht damit:
SUN .au to Mac .snd:
sox file.au -r 11025 -t ub file.snd
or:
sox -t ul -r 8012 file.au -r 11025 -t ub file.snd
When you copy the file to the Mac, you'll have to set
the sample rate by hand.
Mac .snd to SUN .au
sox -r 11025 -t ub file.snd -r 8012 -U -b file.au
The Mac file might also be at sample rates 5012, 22050, or 44100.
PC .voc to SUN .au
sox file.voc -r 8012 -U -b file.au
SUN .au to PC .voc
sox file.au file.voc
or:
sox -r 8012 -t ul file.au file.voc
SUN .au to WAV - without clipping
sox file.au -s -w file.wav
or:
sox -t ul -r 8012 file.au -s -w file.wav
WAV to SUN .au
sox file.wav -r 8012 -U -b file.au
WAV to VOC
sox file.wav -u -b file.voc
VOC to WAV
sox file.voc file.wav
Any file to SUN .au
sox -t auto file.X -c 1 -t aiff - | sox -t aiff - -r 8000 -U -b -t au
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From: Serge Hauser <serge.hauser@ubs.com>
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Subject: turbocolor macht keinen wank mehr
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:23:41 +0200
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hi,
ich hab ne alte turbocolor geschenkt bekommen (nach langem kampf).
bei dem teil war die hd defekt. das teil bootete zwar noch, brauchte
dazu aber etwa 30min.
nun hab ich die alte hd gegen eine 500mb fujitsu ausgetauscht. das
problem : die muehle laesst sich nicht mehr anschalten.
kabel sind ok, kann es sein das das netzteil kaputt ist ?
falls ja, woher krieg ich ein neues oder wo kann ich es reparieren
lassen ?
ahja ich wohne in der schweiz, deutsche adressen helfen mir also nicht
viel, aber ich hoff mal hier lesen auch leute aus ch mit.
griessli
serge
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From: scholzb@peanuts.org (Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM)
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Subject: Re: Hardware-Probleme (Intel)
Date: 21 Jul 1998 18:20:12 GMT
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moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Möllney) wrote:
>
>Der Symbios 53c875 wird nicht von diesem Treiber unterstötzt. Ich habe diese
>Erfahrung leider auch gemacht und dann einen Adapted 2940 UW gekauft.
>
Da waer ich mir nicht so sicher. Vielleicht wird nur die ID der Karte
nicht erkannt. Da hilft nur: ID der Karte abschreiben (wird beim
Booten nach dem Scan der PCI Slots ausgegeben) und diese ID in den
Expert Settings des Treibers eintragen. Zugegeben, umstaendlich, da
Du dafuer ein laufendes zweites System brauchst, aber einen Versuch
wert. Alternativ, kannst Du das auch in einem Rechner machen, da man
ja mehrere SCSI Kontroller gleichzeitig betreiben kann, und so bequemer
die ID auslesen. Im Endeffekt ist waere es dann das gleiche Problem wie
bei Soundkarten und Grafikkarten, bei denen sich auch staendig die IDs
aendern.
Aber andere Frage: betreibst Du das Board mit 100 MHz? Ich habe gehoert,
OPENSTEP bzw. Rhapsody soll mit solchen Bustakten gar nicht recht
moegen, sprich es laeuft sowieso nicht .... ?
Viele Gruesse,
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Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM wrote:
> Da waer ich mir nicht so sicher. Vielleicht wird nur die ID der Karte
> nicht erkannt. Da hilft nur: ID der Karte abschreiben (wird beim
> Booten nach dem Scan der PCI Slots ausgegeben) und diese ID in den
Alternativ mit /usr/Devices/EISABus.config/PnPDump ausgeben lassen..
Holger
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Subject: Re: F: zu AFS WriteUp und PasteUp...
Date: 21 Jul 1998 22:00:29 GMT
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uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote:
>Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> wrote:
>> Ich denke, ich sollte mit ihr einen Crashkurs fuer Frame machen.
>> - Die 10 Kilo engl. Doku moechte ich ihr nicht zumuten, aber
>> eventl. den Gulbins zu FrameMaker.
> ^^^^^^^
>
>Was'n das? Ich hätte da auch eine Freundin mit FrameMaker und Fragen... ;-)
>
> Tschau
> Uli
Gulbins ist ein klasse Buche über FrameMaker. kann ich jedem nur empfehlen.
Wir arbeiten uebrigens auch schon seit jahren mit FrameMaker. Wenn jemand
Fragen hat, kann mich auch gerne fragen.
Gruss,
- Marcus
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Subject: Rhapsody auf Umax Clone mit G3 Karte
Date: 21 Jul 1998 22:13:00 GMT
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Hallo,
ich will mir einen neuen Rechner kaufen (hauptsaechlich zum Musik machen). Da
ich mich mit Apples neuen Produkten nicht anfreunden kann (nur 3 PCI's und 3
DIMMS, kein SCSI und teuer) wollte ich mir einen Umax Pulsar/Storm Surge
Clone mit einer flotten Grafikkarte (Formac ProFormance Lite) und einer G3
Upgrade Karte (entweder eine PowerLogix Design Karte RailGun 300/200 oder
Maccallerate 300) kaufen. Diese Rechner scheinen identisch mit den Apple 9500
zu sein (zumindest haben sie alle das Tsunami Board). Gibt es irgendwelche
Berichte, dass Rhapsody bzw MAC OS Server - das ist jetzt ja der offizielle
Name - auf einer solchen Maschine mit G3 Karte laeuft? Weiss jemand noch
zufaellig, wie man darauf ein MAC OS und Rhapsody installiert und gestartet
wird. Gibt es dazu auch einen Bootmanager, aehnich wie bei Intels?
Danke,
- Marcus
PS: Avie Tevanien hat ja leider in einem Interview bekannt gegeben, dass nur
die neuen original G3 Rechner (mit Gossamer Board) von Mac OS X unterstuetzt
werden. :o(((
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From: Boris Baermichl <baermichl@tlk.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Suche NeXT`s !!
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:28:20 +0200
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Hallo Leute,
ich bin auf der suche nach:
NeXTstation S/W und oder Turbo
Color NeXTstation
NeXT Cube
Wer was hatt bitte Angebot an mich...
bb@tlk.com
Gruss Boris
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35b5b5f9.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 22 Jul 98 09:50:49 GMT
Bau mal die Batterie aus, kratz am Metall rum und bau sie wieder ein.
Manchmal ist naemlich eine leere Batterie an allem schuld ...
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From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Bestellung bei Deepspacetech ??!
Date: 23 Jul 1998 13:20:08 GMT
Organization: POP Point of Presence GmbH, Hamburg, Germany (http://www.pop.de)
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Hallo,
wer von Euch schon weiss, dass er in naechster Zeit bei Deepspacetech
bestellt, und die Versandkosten anteilmaessig abwaelzen moechte (laeuft
vielleicht gerade eine Sammelbestellung ? ), kann sich bitte vorab bei mir
melden.
Ich brauche ein NeXT-Modemkabel.! (Kostenpunkt 25$)
Wer so ein Kabel allerdings bei sich rumliegen hat, kann sich auch melden
:-)
Gruss
Stephan
From: "Jens-Michael Schuh" <schuh@trytec.bo.uunet.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: V: NextStation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:57:33 +0200
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Hallo liebe NeXT-Fans,
ich habe folgendes zu verkaufen:
1 S/W NeXT-Station 32 MByte RAM und 2 KByte Festplatte
1 Ersatz-Monitor f. og. Station
1 SW Creator, letzte Version (auch f. INTEL)
1 SW SuperDraw letzte Version (auch f. INTEL)
inkl.. OpenStep 4.2
Nur zusammen und nur für 1700,- DM. Mehrwertsteuer ausweisbar.
Bei Interesse, bitte eine Mail schicken.
Jens-Michael Schuh
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From: vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Bestellung bei Deepspacetech ??!
Date: 23 Jul 1998 18:19:17 GMT
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"Stephan Meyer" schrieb in de.comp.sys.next:
> Hallo,
>
> wer von Euch schon weiss, dass er in naechster Zeit bei Deepspacetech
> bestellt, und die Versandkosten anteilmaessig abwaelzen moechte
> (laeuft vielleicht gerade eine Sammelbestellung ? ), kann sich bitte
> vorab bei mir melden.
>
> Ich brauche ein NeXT-Modemkabel.! (Kostenpunkt 25$) Wer so ein Kabel
> allerdings bei sich rumliegen hat, kann sich auch melden
> :-)
Für ein NeXT-Modemkabel ist eine Order aus USA aber ein klein wenig
Overkill. Da dürftest Du alle Mal günstiger kommen, wenn Du Dir hier
ein Mac-Modemkabel kaufst und die DB25-Seite entsprechend der Anleitung
unter:
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/SysAdminManual/ApB_Cabling.rtfd
umlötest.
> Gruss
> Stephan
CIAO Volker
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From: m.schlueter@gmx.net (Martin Schlueter)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: V: NextStation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 20:29:31 +0200
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D-8heiL|#-wt23dFP|1x%E.
Jens-Michael Schuh <schuh@trytec.bo.uunet.de> wrote:
> 1 S/W NeXT-Station 32 MByte RAM und 2 KByte Festplatte
^^^^^^^^
Cool. Ich nehme an, das System und die wichtigsten Utilities passen
drauf, oder?
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From: armins@hrz1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (Armin Schmidt)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NEXTSTEP fuer HP Hardware, woher?
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 22:29:14 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <35b7b858.18868454@news.tu-darmstadt.de>
Hallo NeXT Gemeinde,
mal ganz bescheiden wollte ich fragen, wo man denn u.U. noch NEXSTEP
fuer HP Rechner herbekommt?
Wieder stellt sich mir die Frage, ob ich die regulaere NEXTSTEP 3.3
zur Installation fuer ein solches System benutzen koennte, die auch
fuer NeXT hardware verwendet wird?
(Wovon ich nicht ausgehe, da ja auf der CD steht nur fuer NeXT oder
Intel hardware..)
Wuerde mich freuen, was von Euch dazu zu hoeren,
Armin
From: "Christian Kneisel" <c.kneisel@tu-bs.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Next 4.3
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:39:40 +0200
Organization: TU Braunschweig, Germany
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Hallo miteinand,
wer verkauft mir NextStep 3.4 Developer für Intel privat?
Eigentlich erinnere ich mich, dass D'Art in Hamburg sowas tat. Wer hat die
aktuelle Webadresse?
MfG
Christian
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Next 4.3
Date: 24 Jul 1998 05:50:17 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
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"Christian Kneisel" <c.kneisel@tu-bs.de> wrote:
> wer verkauft mir NextStep 3.4 Developer für Intel privat?
Ganz sicher niemand. NEXTSTEP 3.x hörte nämlich bei 3.3 auf, und OPENSTEP 4.x
bei 4.2.
Jedesmal knapp daneben ;-)
Tschau
Uli
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP fuer HP Hardware, woher?
Date: 24 Jul 1998 07:06:29 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Armin Schmidt <armins@hrz1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:
: Hallo NeXT Gemeinde,
: mal ganz bescheiden wollte ich fragen, wo man denn u.U. noch NEXSTEP
: fuer HP Rechner herbekommt?
: Wieder stellt sich mir die Frage, ob ich die regulaere NEXTSTEP 3.3
: zur Installation fuer ein solches System benutzen koennte, die auch
: fuer NeXT hardware verwendet wird?
: (Wovon ich nicht ausgehe, da ja auf der CD steht nur fuer NeXT oder
: Intel hardware..)
: Wuerde mich freuen, was von Euch dazu zu hoeren,
Es gibt eine CD 'NEXTSTEP fuer RISC', wo SPARC und HP drauf
sind.
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From: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Next 4.3
Date: 24 Jul 1998 08:44:58 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Hallo,
On 07/24/98, Uli Zappe wrote:
>"Christian Kneisel" <c.kneisel@tu-bs.de> wrote:
>> wer verkauft mir NextStep 3.4 Developer für Intel privat?
>
>Ganz sicher niemand. NEXTSTEP 3.x hörte nämlich bei 3.3 auf, und
OPENSTEP 4.x
>bei 4.2.
>
>Jedesmal knapp daneben ;-)
Wobei man Web-Objects 3.5 als inoffizielles OS4.2 update bezeichnen
koennte. Immerhin ist eine neuere Version des ProjectBuilders dabei,
die schon weniger Bugs (hoffe ich) und ein paar nette neue Features
hat.
Dirk
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: turbocolor macht keinen wank mehr
Date: 24 Jul 1998 09:36:48 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development
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sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote:
>Bau mal die Batterie aus, kratz am Metall rum und bau sie wieder ein.
>Manchmal ist naemlich eine leere Batterie an allem schuld ...
Besser gleich eine neue Batterie einbauen. Die gibt es dort, wo es Batterien
für Kameras gibt.
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From: "Jens-Michael Schuh" <schuh@trytec.bo.uunet.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: V: NextStation
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:08:29 +0200
Organization: TryTec! Microsystems
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Martin Schlueter schrieb in Nachricht
<1dcmytx.p5o7e31bz02hyN@pec-35.au1.re.uunet.de>...
>Jens-Michael Schuh <schuh@trytec.bo.uunet.de> wrote:
>
>> 1 S/W NeXT-Station 32 MByte RAM und 2 KByte Festplatte
> ^^^^^^^^
>
>Cool. Ich nehme an, das System und die wichtigsten Utilities passen
>drauf, oder?
>
>;-)
Ja ist ein K statt ein G geworden. Vielleicht sollte ich die Platte wirklich
Kbyteweise verkaufen.
Jens
From: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NextStep on Windows NT
Date: 24 Jul 1998 11:15:31 GMT
Organization: Oldenburger Informations-Systeme, FRG
Distribution: world
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In article <6ohv20$5jb$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss
<neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> writes:
> Am besten wirst du Mitglied im Apple EAP Programm.
> Es gibt ein DR mit einer ganz brauchbaren Entwicklungsumgebung.
Dann gleich noch ein paar Fragen:
1a. wie wird man Apple Developer? (eMail Adresse zum Anmelden)?
1b. Was kostet das? (500 US$ - stimmt das noch?)
2. Was sind die Voraussetzungen fuer einen Intel Computer, damit das
Rhapsody Developer Release darauf laeuft? (URL zu der hardware
compatibility list)
Ich habe das auch Apple Deutschland (de.response@euro.apple.com) gefragt,
aber aus vergangenen Erfahrungen bin ich nicht sicher, eine Antwort zu
erhalten. Habe mehr Vertrauen zum Usenet.
Gerriet.
P.S. NextToYou ist in der Tat eine sehr gute Zeitschrift, die ich auch
(fast) regelmaessig lese, aber immer noch nicht abonniert habe.
From: "Christian Kneisel" <c.kneisel@tu-bs.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Next 4.3
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:09:41 +0200
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Jaha, habt ja recht,
Uli Zappe schrieb in Nachricht
<6p97ap$716$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>...
>"Christian Kneisel" <c.kneisel@tu-bs.de> wrote:
>> wer verkauft mir NextStep 3.4 Developer für Intel privat?
>
>Ganz sicher niemand. NEXTSTEP 3.x hörte nämlich bei 3.3 auf, und OPENSTEP
4.x
>bei 4.2.
aber trotzdem hätte ich diese Software gerne erworben. Und zwar fuer meine
Intel-Hardware. Und soweit ich mich erinnere, war das schon mit NEXTSTEP 3.3
möglich:-?
Und was ist nun mit d'Art?
MfG
Christian Kneisel
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From: kuranda@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Anke Ehlers)
Subject: NeXT-Modem-Kabel (war: Re: Bestellung bei Deepspacetech ??!)
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In <6p7ur5$gvu$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Volker Safran wrote:
> "Stephan Meyer" schrieb in de.comp.sys.next:
> > wer von Euch schon weiss, dass er in naechster Zeit bei Deepspacetech
> > bestellt, und die Versandkosten anteilmaessig abwaelzen moechte
> > (laeuft vielleicht gerade eine Sammelbestellung ? ), kann sich bitte
> > vorab bei mir melden.
> >
> > Ich brauche ein NeXT-Modemkabel.! (Kostenpunkt 25$) Wer so ein Kabel
> > allerdings bei sich rumliegen hat, kann sich auch melden
>
> Für ein NeXT-Modemkabel ist eine Order aus USA aber ein klein wenig
> Overkill. Da dürftest Du alle Mal günstiger kommen, wenn Du Dir hier
> ein Mac-Modemkabel kaufst und die DB25-Seite entsprechend der Anleitung
> unter:
>
> /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/SysAdminManual/ApB_Cabling.rtfd
>
> umlötest
Oder Du guckst mal mach
http://www.radial.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution6.html#Pinouts oder
aber ins KabelFAQ von Gernot Zander (irgendwo im IN-Berlin - ripley weiss
bestimmt wo ;-) und loetest das Teil komplett selbst - dauert circa.10
Minuten.
Anke
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Next 4.3
Date: 25 Jul 1998 17:47:57 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
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"Christian Kneisel" <c.kneisel@tu-bs.de> wrote:
> aber trotzdem hätte ich diese Software gerne erworben. Und zwar fuer meine
> Intel-Hardware. Und soweit ich mich erinnere, war das schon mit NEXTSTEP
> 3.3 möglich:-?
Stimmt. Das wirst Du allerdings nur noch gebraucht bekommen.
> Und was ist nun mit d'Art?
Die gibt's nicht mehr. Aber Academy und RCN (beide in Berlin) liefern noch
OPENSTEP 4.2.
Tschau
Uli
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT-Modem-Kabel (war: Re: Bestellung bei Deepspacetech ??!)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 16:07:39 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
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In <EwMoFu.6yu@anarcoma.in-berlin.de> Anke Ehlers wrote:
> bestimmt wo ;-) und loetest das Teil komplett selbst - dauert circa.10
> Minuten.
Die Mini-DIN-Stecker zu loeten ist eine Tortur. Ausserdem, selbst wenn's
geglueckt ist, eine wenig stabile Sache. Besser ein fertiges Kabel benuten
und ggf. den grossen Sub-D-Stecker selbst loeten.
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Boeses Dateisystem-Problem: fsck hilft nicht :-(
Date: 26 Jul 1998 14:56:21 GMT
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Hi,
als ich heute den Computer anschaltete, habe ich eine böse Überraschung
erlebt: beim Booten wurde das Dateisystem als "clean" eingestuft und fsck
übersprungen, aber im weiteren Bootvorgang kamen sehr viele Fehlermeldungen
des Inhalts:
/: bad dir ino 53263 at offset 7516: mangeld entry
und schließlich in Folge:
pdservd: Could not create /dev/rpski14 - File exists
pdservd: Could not create /dev/rpski15 - File exists
tallowcross syslogd: cannot create /dev/log: Address already in use
Daraufhin habe ich fsck manuell im Single-User-Modus laufen lassen und
folgendes erhalten:
% fsck -P
/dev/rsd0a: DIRECTORY CORRUPTED I=53263 OWNER=root MODE=40755
/dev/rsd0a: SIZE=9216 MTIME=Jul 26 15:27 1998
/dev/rsd0a: DIR=/private/dev
/dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
%
Mein Problem ist natürlich, *daß* ich ja fsck manuell laufen lasse. Was nun,
wenn fsck nix reparieren will?
Ich habe mir /dev mal angeguckt und 6 fehlerhafte Einträge gefunden, bei
denen entweder der Name oder der Inode oder beides ramponiert waren. Aber
wenn ich versuche, die einfach zu löschen, kriege ich nur ein lapidares:
rm: /dev/|skø=5 nonexistent
rm: /dev/rpskø=4 nonexistent
rm: /dev/rpski14 nonexistent
rm: /dev/rpski15 nonexistent
rm: /dev/rpski16 nonexistent
rm: /dev/log nonexistent
Was tun??? Soll ich einfach das ganze /dev-Verzeichnis löschen und neu
aufbauen? (Aber wie? ditto von CD-ROM, MAKEDEV, oder was?) Selbst wenn das
hier ginge, es muß doch eine allgemeinere Lösung geben für den Fall, daß man
nicht gleich das ganze Verzeichnis löschen kann/will.
Danke für jede Hilfe!
Tschau
Uli
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP fuer HP Hardware, woher?
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In article <35b7b858.18868454@news.tu-darmstadt.de>
armins@hrz1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (Armin Schmidt) writes:
> Hallo NeXT Gemeinde,
>
> mal ganz bescheiden wollte ich fragen, wo man denn u.U. noch NEXSTEP
> fuer HP Rechner herbekommt?
>
> Wieder stellt sich mir die Frage, ob ich die regulaere NEXTSTEP 3.3
> zur Installation fuer ein solches System benutzen koennte, die auch
> fuer NeXT hardware verwendet wird?
> (Wovon ich nicht ausgehe, da ja auf der CD steht nur fuer NeXT oder
> Intel hardware..)
>
Du brauchst wirklich eine eigene Distribution, nur die Developper ist
vierfach FAT.
Wie drankommen? Setze ein WTB in c.s.n.marketplace ab und/oder frage mal
per E-Mail bei iXpoint in Ettlingen nach <info@ixpoint.de>, die hatten
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
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Subject: Re: Boeses Dateisystem-Problem: fsck hilft nicht :-(
Date: 26 Jul 1998 21:02:28 GMT
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Uli Zappe <uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote:
: Daraufhin habe ich fsck manuell im Single-User-Modus laufen lassen und
: folgendes erhalten:
: % fsck -P
: /dev/rsd0a: DIRECTORY CORRUPTED I=53263 OWNER=root MODE=40755
: /dev/rsd0a: SIZE=9216 MTIME=Jul 26 15:27 1998
: /dev/rsd0a: DIR=/private/dev
: /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
: %
: Mein Problem ist natürlich, *daß* ich ja fsck manuell laufen lasse. Was nun,
: wenn fsck nix reparieren will?
Hi Uli,
Hmm, gib mal auf der Kommandozeile das device mit an. Evtl. geht
fsck davon aus, dass es im rc.script laeuft, wenn Du kein device
angibst.
Ich hatte es noch nie, dass fsck sich geweigert hat...
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From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
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Subject: Re: NeXT-Modem-Kabel (war: Re: Bestellung bei Deepspacetech ??!)
Date: 27 Jul 1998 07:26:50 GMT
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hallo,
Thomas F. Unke <thf00@hotmail.com> schrieb im Beitrag
<1998Jul25.160739.508@news.online.de>...
> In <EwMoFu.6yu@anarcoma.in-berlin.de> Anke Ehlers wrote:
>
> > bestimmt wo ;-) und loetest das Teil komplett selbst - dauert circa.10
> > Minuten.
>
> Die Mini-DIN-Stecker zu loeten ist eine Tortur. Ausserdem, selbst wenn's
> geglueckt ist, eine wenig stabile Sache. Besser ein fertiges Kabel
benuten
> und ggf. den grossen Sub-D-Stecker selbst loeten.
Sehe ich aehnlich :-)
Ein Kabel hatte ich mir schon geloetet (unter anderem mit den Infos in
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/SysAdminManual/ApB_Cabling.rtfd),
doch wollte es nicht funktionieren. Mein Verdacht, dass eventuell die
seriellen Schnittstellen kaputt sein koennten, "relativierte" sich, nachdem
ich das Board tauschte und wieder nichts passierte...
Nun moechte ich halt in den Versuch investieren, ein fertiges Kabel
auszuprobeieren...
Gruss
Stephan
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
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Subject: Re: Boeses Dateisystem-Problem: fsck hilft nicht :-(
Date: 27 Jul 1998 07:35:34 GMT
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Uli Zappe (uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de) wrote:
: Hi,
Hallo,
: [...]
: Ich habe mir /dev mal angeguckt und 6 fehlerhafte Einträge gefunden, bei
: denen entweder der Name oder der Inode oder beides ramponiert waren. Aber
: wenn ich versuche, die einfach zu löschen, kriege ich nur ein lapidares:
:
: rm: /dev/|skø=5 nonexistent
: rm: /dev/rpskø=4 nonexistent
: rm: /dev/rpski14 nonexistent
: rm: /dev/rpski15 nonexistent
: rm: /dev/rpski16 nonexistent
: rm: /dev/log nonexistent
:
: Was tun??? Soll ich einfach das ganze /dev-Verzeichnis löschen und neu
: aufbauen? (Aber wie? ditto von CD-ROM, MAKEDEV, oder was?) Selbst wenn das
: hier ginge, es muß doch eine allgemeinere Lösung geben für den Fall, daß man
: nicht gleich das ganze Verzeichnis löschen kann/will.
Falls es wirklich(!) das /dev-Directory ist, was ich nicht glaube(!), ich
glaube hier einen einen tieferen FS Fehler, nichtsdestotrotz, falls es
wirklich '/dev' ist ist ein Loeschen von '/dev' und ein 'MAKEDEV' schon
die beste Loesung, da es sich bei den Inhalten von '/dev' (bis auf Links
oder moegliche Subdirectories) um 'special files' handelt, die mit
'mknod' erstellt werden muessen, und von denen man 'major' und 'minor'
'device number' kennen muss. Das kann MAKEDEV wirklich besser.
Aber wie geschrieben, ich befuerchte einen anderen schlimmeren Fehler.
Gruss,
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
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Subject: Re: Boeses Dateisystem-Problem: fsck hilft nicht :-(
Date: 27 Jul 1998 11:42:42 GMT
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Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> : /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
> : %
>
> : Mein Problem ist natürlich, *daß* ich ja fsck manuell laufen lasse. Was
> : nun, wenn fsck nix reparieren will?
> Hi Uli,
>
> Hmm, gib mal auf der Kommandozeile das device mit an. Evtl. geht
> fsck davon aus, dass es im rc.script laeuft, wenn Du kein device
> angibst.
>
> Ich hatte es noch nie, dass fsck sich geweigert hat...
Seufz, der Fehler war sogar viel einfacher: das -P ist im Single-User-Mode
nicht nur unnötig, sondern störend gewesen. Da war ich wohl etwas zu sehr im
Streß...
Trotzdem Danke!
Tschau
Uli
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From: robert@iamexwi.unibe.ch (Philippe Robert)
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Subject: V: NeXTstations
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Date: 27 Jul 98 13:26:38 GMT
Hi!
Verkaufe eine NeXTstation turbo mit Monitor, Maus, Tastatur etc.
sowie eine station color turbo OHNE Monitor, aber mit BNC Adapterkabel.
Bei Interesse, bitte mailen...;-)
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Subject: Re: NeXT-Modem-Kabel (war: Re: Bestellung bei Deepspacetech ??!)
Date: 27 Jul 1998 13:30:06 GMT
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"Stephan Meyer" schrieb in de.comp.sys.next:
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> Sehe ich aehnlich :-)
> Ein Kabel hatte ich mir schon geloetet (unter anderem mit den Infos
> in
>
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/SysAdminManual/ApB_Cabling.rtfd),
> doch wollte es nicht funktionieren. Mein Verdacht, dass eventuell die
> seriellen Schnittstellen kaputt sein koennten, "relativierte" sich,
> nachdem ich das Board tauschte und wieder nichts passierte...
Mir fällt noch ein, daß es eventuell geschickt ist, das Kabel an der
zweiten seriellen auszuprobieren. Früher war es aus unerfindlichen
Gründen oft so, daß das Hardware-Handshake an Serial A nicht klappte.
> Nun moechte ich halt in den Versuch investieren, ein fertiges Kabel
> auszuprobeieren...
Wenn Du richtig gelötet hast, sollte das keinen Unterschied machen.
> Gruss
> Stephan
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From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
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Gibt es eine moeglichkeit aus der shell einen user zu loeschen?
Falls ja, wie
Alex
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Alexander Dietz schrieb in de.comp.sys.next:
> Gibt es eine moeglichkeit aus der shell einen user zu loeschen?
> Falls ja, wie
Ja und man nu.
> Alex
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In <1998Jul25.160739.508@news.online.de> Thomas F. Unke wrote:
> > bestimmt wo ;-) und loetest das Teil komplett selbst - dauert circa.10
> > Minuten.
>
> Die Mini-DIN-Stecker zu loeten ist eine Tortur. Ausserdem, selbst wenn's
> geglueckt ist, eine wenig stabile Sache. Besser ein fertiges Kabel benuten
> und ggf. den grossen Sub-D-Stecker selbst loeten.
Ging bei mir mit Loetwasser, Schrumpfschlauch und guter Loetspitze ohne
Probleme. Mein Modem und meine ISDN-Anlage haengen an so einem Kabel und es
gab noch nie Probleme.
Anke
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From: hwr@pilhuhn.de (Heiko W.Rupp)
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Subject: Re: Boeses Dateisystem-Problem: fsck hilft nicht :-(
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Uli Zappe wrote:
| % fsck -P
| /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
| %
Bloede Frage: Auch schon ohne '-P' probiert? Oder meint fsck dann, dass
die Partition sauber sei?
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Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM wrote:
> moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Möllney) wrote:
> >
> >Der Symbios 53c875 wird nicht von diesem Treiber unterstötzt. Ich habe diese
> >Erfahrung leider auch gemacht und dann einen Adapted 2940 UW gekauft.
> >
> Da waer ich mir nicht so sicher. Vielleicht wird nur die ID der Karte
> nicht erkannt. Da hilft nur: ID der Karte abschreiben (wird beim
> Booten nach dem Scan der PCI Slots ausgegeben) und diese ID in den
> Expert Settings des Treibers eintragen. Zugegeben, umstaendlich, da
> Du dafuer ein laufendes zweites System brauchst, aber einen Versuch
> wert. Alternativ, kannst Du das auch in einem Rechner machen, da man
> ja mehrere SCSI Kontroller gleichzeitig betreiben kann, und so bequemer
> die ID auslesen. Im Endeffekt ist waere es dann das gleiche Problem wie
> bei Soundkarten und Grafikkarten, bei denen sich auch staendig die IDs
> aendern.
>
Wenn ich Dich richtig verstanden habe, muesste ich, um die ID in den Expert
settings eintragen zu koennen, Configure.app zum Laufen bringen, oder? Ich komme
gar nicht erst so weit, denn gleich nachdem NS nach dem SCSI-Treiber fragt, gibt
die Installations-Prozedur den Geist auf (mit Meldungen wie etwa:"No SCSI-Card
found" etc. (oder aehnlich)
Ich hab' mir aber 'ne Adaptec 2940 UW ausgeliehen. Da laeuft alles schoen brav
wie man es kennt!
> Aber andere Frage: betreibst Du das Board mit 100 MHz? Ich habe gehoert,
> OPENSTEP bzw. Rhapsody soll mit solchen Bustakten gar nicht recht
> moegen, sprich es laeuft sowieso nicht .... ?
>
Ja, das Board laeuft mit 100 MHz (ich hoffe es zumindest ;-) ), aber ich
verwende NS 3.3. Weisst Du auch fuer NS 3.3 von solchen Problemen?
> Viele Gruesse,
>
> Bernhard.
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Boeses Dateisystem-Problem: fsck hilft nicht :-(
Date: 28 Jul 1998 14:49:51 GMT
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hwr@pilhuhn.de (Heiko W.Rupp) wrote:
> Uli Zappe wrote:
> | % fsck -P
> | /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
> | %
>
> Bloede Frage: Auch schon ohne '-P' probiert? Oder meint fsck dann, dass
> die Partition sauber sei?
Gar nicht blöd! Ich hatte vorauseilend (weil beim normalen Booten fsck ja
meinte, alles sei sauber) gleich -P genommen - und das war das Problem!
Tschau
Uli
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From: "Dr. Michael Paus" <Michael.Paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de>
Newsgroups: stgt.next,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Einladung zum naechsten NeKSt-Treffen in Stuttgart
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:51:28 +0200
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
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Hallo NeXT-Fans,
es ist mal wieder Zeit fuer unseren ueblichen NeXT-Stammtisch.
Ich habe daher fuer den kommenden Montag den 3. 8. 1998 um 20.00h wieder
einen Tisch im Sherlock reserviert. Alle die an einem Kloenschnack mit der
Stuttgarter NeXT User Gruppe Interesse haben sollten mal vorbeikommen.
(Fuer alle die immer noch nicht wissen wo das Sherlock ist:
Stuttgart Vaihingen, Pfaffenwaldring 62, Tel. 0711/6874909)
Ich hoffe auf zahlreiches Erscheinen
Michael
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Subject: Re: Next 4.3
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Uli Zappe <uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote:
:> Und was ist nun mit d'Art?
: Die gibt's nicht mehr. Aber Academy und RCN (beide in Berlin) liefern noch
: OPENSTEP 4.2.
Realtime Computing and Nets
http://www.rcn.de, rcn@rcn.de, Tel. 030-834 01 07, Fax 030-8340108
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From: moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Möllney)
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Date: 29 Jul 98 11:54:23 GMT
In <6p2m4s$jkh$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> Bernhard Scholz - remove NOSPAM
wrote:
> moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Mællney) wrote:
> >
> >Der Symbios 53c875 wird nicht von diesem Treiber unterstötzt. Ich habe
diese
> >Erfahrung leider auch gemacht und dann einen Adapted 2940 UW gekauft.
> >
> Da waer ich mir nicht so sicher. Vielleicht wird nur die ID der Karte
> nicht erkannt. Da hilft nur: ID der Karte abschreiben (wird beim
> Booten nach dem Scan der PCI Slots ausgegeben) und diese ID in den
> Expert Settings des Treibers eintragen. Zugegeben, umstaendlich, da
> Du dafuer ein laufendes zweites System brauchst, aber einen Versuch
> wert. Alternativ, kannst Du das auch in einem Rechner machen, da man
> ja mehrere SCSI Kontroller gleichzeitig betreiben kann, und so bequemer
> die ID auslesen. Im Endeffekt ist waere es dann das gleiche Problem wie
> bei Soundkarten und Grafikkarten, bei denen sich auch staendig die IDs
> aendern.
Tja, haben wir hier versucht, die Karte wurde dann erkannt aber leider nicht
unterstuetzt. der Rechner hing..
>
> Aber andere Frage: betreibst Du das Board mit 100 MHz? Ich habe gehoert,
> OPENSTEP bzw. Rhapsody soll mit solchen Bustakten gar nicht recht
> moegen, sprich es laeuft sowieso nicht .... ?
>
> Viele Gruesse,
>
> Bernhard.
>
>
Scheint also doch nicht abwaertskompatibel zu sein.
Bis dann, Michael
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From: Kai Guentzel <guentzel@technix.wop.iao.fhg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: DR2 auf G3-300 ?
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:31:26 +0200
Organization: Fraunhofer Gesellschaft
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Hallo,
hat jemand von Euch erfolgreich DR2 auf einem PowerMac G3-300 auf der
internen UW-SCSI-Platte installiert ?
Wenn ja, schreibt mir bitte, wie Ihr vorgegangen seid.
Danek im voraus.
Kai
guentzkn@trick.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
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Subject: FS:Next Computers starting at $195.00
From: sales@deepspacetech.com (DeepSpace Technologies)
Organization: DeepSpace Technologies
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We have a large assorment of Next hardware. Color Stations starting at
$195.00. A great way to learn UNIX and what's under Rhapsody.
See our website for a complete listing and prices.
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From: "Greg Arnold" <greg_arnold@3com.com>
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Subject: FS: NeXTDimension Cube and NeXTStation and....
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 13:35:00 -0700
Organization: InterNex Information Services 1-800-595-3333
Message-ID: <6po1aa$o58@masters0.InterNex.Net>
I finally brought myself to sell my beloved NeXT equipment.
All the stuff below for $1200/obo.
[item 1]
68040 25MHz NeXT Cube with
NeXTDimension board that has 32MB of DRAM.
68040 board has 32MB RAM, 640MB hard disk, optical drive,
Sony Trinitron 17" Color Monitor,
Soundbox, keyboard, and mouse
Excellent condition
[item 2]
68040 25MHz NeXTStation Cube
16MB RAM, 349MB hard disk
optical drive
17" B/W MegaPixel monitor
Excellent condition
[item 3]
400 DPI laser printer, B&W,
slightly temperamental
[item 4]
Spare parts in case something breaks:
monitor, 17" B/W MegaPixel
hard drive, Maxtor Model XT-3380S, 380MB
hard drive, Fujitsu Model M26235A
2 CPU boards: 68030, 25MHz, 16MB RAM (circa 1989)
2 NeXTStation cube power supply
2 optical drives, 256MB
cable, NeXTDimension to monitor & sound box
cable, serial port to DB25
cable, NeXT SCSI2 to SCSI1
cable, BNC 10foot thin ethernet coax
cable, NeXTDimension to RGB monitor
2 cables, NeXT printer parallel port DB25 to centronix
8 One Meg 100ns SIMMs for the 68040, 25MHz
2 Four Meg 70ns SIMMs ? (16 MCM54400AN70 / TQQSA9209)
6 optical disks
6 floppy disks, Toshiba PMF-2ED
Greg Arnold
Sunnyvale, California
408-764-6946
Prefer local sale to having to carefully package and ship
From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,maus.sys.next,maus.sys.mac,bln.termine,bln.comp.misc,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: TREFFEN: Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) am 3. August 1998
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Date: 29 Jul 1998 21:36:48 GMT
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EINLADUNG ZUM TREFFEN DER BERLINER NeXT USER GROUP (BeNG)
*********************************************************
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) trifft sich am
Montag, den 3. August 1998, um 20.00 Uhr,
in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e. V.,
Kiautschoustrasse 18, 13353 Berlin,
wobei folgende Themen geplant sind:
RHAPSODY DR 2
Zur letzten weltweiten Entwicklerkonferenz von Apple wurde
die zweite Entwicklerversion von Rhapsody veroeffentlicht.
Inzwischen wurde auch die Intel-Version an die Entwickler
verschickt. Auf diesem Treffen werden wir DR 2, speziell
diese Intel-Version vorstellen. Auch Apples Roadmap bezueglich
Rhapsody - besser gesagt MacOS X Server, wie das Produkt
nun endgueltig heisst - soll naeher erlaeutert werden.
Das Treffen steht allen NEXTSTEP und OPENSTEP- bzw. Rhapsody-
Interessierten offen, auch Einsteigern oder Leuten, die erst einmal
mehr ueber NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP und Rhapsody bzw. MacOS X, dem neuen
Betriebsssystem von Apple, erfahren wollen.
Wir treffen uns in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e.V.
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin (Wedding)
von 20.00 bis ca. 22.00 Uhr. Die Raeume selbst befinden sich im
Erdgeschoss.
WIE KOMMT MAN HIN
Da die Kiautschoustrasse in einem Wohngebiet liegt und es
erfahrungsgemaess kaum freie Parkplaetze in der Naehe gibt,
empfehlen wir die Anfahrt mit dem Fahrrad oder mit oeffentlichen
Verkehrsmitteln.
Sie erreichen uns am besten ueber folgende Linien:
U-BAHN U 9 bis U-Bahnhof Amrumer Strasse
U 6 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
BUS 248 bis Kiautschoustrasse
221 bis Luxemburger Strasse
245 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
120 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
Die behindertengerechten Busse der Linie 248 halten fast vor der Tuer
(50 m), bei den anderen Linien sollten Sie einen Fussweg von etwa
fuenf Minuten einplanen. Einen Fahrplan von Ihnen zur BeNG finden Sie
unter der URL http://www.fahrinfo-berlin.de.
Am \ BUS 221 ___---"""
ru \ ___-H-"""
\ me \ TFH ___---""" ___---
\ r \ ___---""" ___---
\ \ ___---""" Strasse <"" ___
\ St. \_---""" burger _H--\ T \ ___---"""
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W <-+-> O \ s \ \ t \___---""" str. \ ding
v \ t \ _\ r Kiautschou__---""\ \ -->
S \ r \ \ ___---""" BeNG \ \__-
\ \__Pekinger \_-\ \ ==== __\
___---"" Pl.--__ \ \ __--""
___---""" Nordufer """--__\ \ __--"" str. __-
___---""""""""""""---___ Nord- "" Lynar __--""
___---""" ""-_ ufer __--""
" "-_ _--""
\ "\
[Diese "Karte" sollte mit einem nicht-] \ \
[proportionalen Font betrachtet werden] \ \
Wenn Sie einen Internet-Zugang haben, koennen Sie einen Blick auf den
entsprechenden Kartenausschnitt auf dem Server des StadtINFO-Verlags
werfen. Unter der URL http://www.beng.org/meeting.html ist eine
Umgebungskarte der Kiautschoustrasse abgebildet, auf der die
Vereinsraeume des IN-Berlin e. V. durch einen roten Kreis markiert
sind.
DAS UEBERNAECHSTE TREFFEN
Das darauffolgende Treffen findet am 7. September 1998 statt. Bisher
ist eine Fortsetzung des NetInfo-Vortrags geplant.
UEBER BeNG
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) existiert seit 1990 und ist
ein loser Zusammenschluss von NeXT-Interessierten.
Wir betreiben zwei Mailinglisten fuer Ankuendigungen bzw. fuer
Diskussionen rund um NeXT/Apple-Technologien und einen FTP-Server
fuer NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Programme (ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT).
Unser Rhapsody-FTP-Server (ftp://ftp.beng.org) befindet sich noch
im Aufbau. Naehere Informationen erhalten sie, indem Sie eine E-Mail
an about@beng.org schicken.
Wir treffen uns in der Regel am ersten Montag im Monat um 20.00 Uhr.
Wenn dieser Tag ein Feiertag ist, findet das Treffen in der
darauffolgenden Woche statt. Oft werden auch Vortraege gehalten oder
Vorfuehrungen arrangiert.
Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG)
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 39 03 93 03
Fax +49 30 / 39 03 93 04
WWW http://www.beng.org
E-Mail info@beng.org
UEBER IN-BERLIN
Das Individual Network Berlin (IN-Berlin) bietet seit 1990
Internet-Zugang zur privaten Nutzung an. IN-Berlin arbeitet nicht
gewinnorientiert und ist seit 1996 ein eingetragener Verein, der
heute ueber seine 2 MBit/s-Anbindung mehr als 600 Teilnehmer mit
Internet-Konnektivitaet versorgt.
In den Vereinsraeumen des IN-Berlin e.V. in Berlin-Wedding finden
regelmaessig Usertreffen, Schulungen und Veranstaltungen befreundeter
Gruppen, z. B. der Berliner LINUX-Usergruppe (BeLUG) oder der Berliner
NeXT User Group (BeNG), statt.
Info-Kontakt IN-Berlin e. V.
Kiautschoustr. 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 45 49 43 43
Fax +40 30 / 45 49 43 44
WWW http://www.in-berlin.de
E-Mail info@in-berlin.de
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From: crhedges@hotmail.com (Colin)
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From: graudeju@iese.fhg.de-nospam (Holger Graudejus)
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Subject: Re: Boeses Dateisystem-Problem: fsck hilft nicht :-(
Date: 30 Jul 1998 08:26:06 GMT
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>
> Daraufhin habe ich fsck manuell im Single-User-Modus laufen lassen und
> folgendes erhalten:
>
> % fsck -P
Kein '-f' (fuer 'force')?
Ciao, Holger.
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Boeses Dateisystem-Problem: fsck hilft nicht :-(
Date: 30 Jul 1998 09:13:01 GMT
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graudeju@iese.fhg.de-nospam (Holger Graudejus) wrote:
> > % fsck -P
>
> Kein '-f' (fuer 'force')?
Nope, das Flag heißt bei fsck eben -P und nicht -f. Wie auch immer, der
Fehler war wie gesagt, es überhaupt mit einem Flag zu starten.
Tschau
Uli
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NextStep on Windows NT
Date: 30 Jul 1998 13:47:11 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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References: <6ohv20$5jb$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <6p9qcj$44o@hazel.north.de>
gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann) wrote:
>In article <6ohv20$5jb$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss
><neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> writes:
>> Am besten wirst du Mitglied im Apple EAP Programm.
>> Es gibt ein DR mit einer ganz brauchbaren Entwicklungsumgebung.
>
>Dann gleich noch ein paar Fragen:
>1a. wie wird man Apple Developer? (eMail Adresse zum Anmelden)?
http://www.apple.com/developer/
>1b. Was kostet das? (500 US$ - stimmt das noch?)
Fuer Apple Developer habe ich damals 400 Mark bezahlt, EAP kostet
etwas mehr (ein paar tausend, wenn ich mich recht entsinne).
Dafuer enthaelt EAP die notwendige Software, die du zum Entwickeln
brauchst, bei Apple Dev bekommst du derzeit nur die Betas fuer
Rhapsody - und ob du die rechtzeitig vor dem Release von CR1 noch
kriegst ist zumindest fraglich.
>2. Was sind die Voraussetzungen fuer einen Intel Computer, damit das
>Rhapsody Developer Release darauf laeuft? (URL zu der hardware
>compatibility list)
http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server
>Ich habe das auch Apple Deutschland (de.response@euro.apple.com) gefragt,
>aber aus vergangenen Erfahrungen bin ich nicht sicher, eine Antwort zu
>erhalten. Habe mehr Vertrauen zum Usenet.
Ganz allgemein hat sich in Deutschland m.E. die Erkenntnis noch nicht
durchgesetzt, dass man Anfragen von Kunden beantworten muss, um zu
einem Geschaeftsabschluss oder Auftrag zu kommen. Dies gilt insbesondere
auch fuer email - und das ist ein kulturelles Problem in Deutschland, hat
nichts mit Apple zu tun.
Probier ggf eine Anfrage an eurodev@apple.com. Halte sie kurz und praezise,
mit Anrede und Grussformel, dann bekommst du sicherlich eine Antwort.
>P.S. NextToYou ist in der Tat eine sehr gute Zeitschrift, die ich auch
>(fast) regelmaessig lese, aber immer noch nicht abonniert habe.
Das wuerde ich aber schnell nachholen. ;-)
Chris
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From: kerniebc@sp.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Christian Kernbach)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: startx and Xnext with DR2 for PPC
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:22:17 +0200
Organization: Spyglass
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Hi,
I´m looking for some help with Xnext. Can someone tell me how to create
or get from(some help) a usable startx/.xinitrc etc. for using Xnext. I
can start the server but I´m unable to start any program like the
windowserver twm or anything else.
Is there any information in the net about compiling programs for
rhapsody? Is it difficult? I want to compile GRASS. Any help?
Thanks for any help.
--
Christian Kernbach
Grünberger Str.22
10243 Berlin
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: startx and Xnext with DR2 for PPC
Date: 30 Jul 1998 14:26:08 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Christian Kernbach <kerniebc@sp.zrz.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
: Hi,
: I´m looking for some help with Xnext. Can someone tell me how to create
: or get from(some help) a usable startx/.xinitrc etc. for using Xnext. I
: can start the server but I´m unable to start any program like the
: windowserver twm or anything else.
: Is there any information in the net about compiling programs for
: rhapsody? Is it difficult? I want to compile GRASS. Any help?
Grrr.
Erstens ist dies eine deutsche NG. Crossposten zwischen deutschen
und englischen NGs halte ich fuer unhoeflich.
Zweitens: was heisst 'unable'. Eine Fehlermeldung oder irgendeine
Reaktion des Rechners waere zur Diagnose des Problems hilfreich.
Drittens: Welche Plattform?
Viertens: Ein Tip. Evtl. musst Du nur die Environment-Variable
DISPLAY setzen. Unter tcsh ungefaehr so: setenv DISPLAY localhost:0
oder, falls Du DR1 oder 2 benutzt 'setenv DISPLAY :0', weil Xnext
unter DR[12] den eigenen Hostnamen nicht richtig rausfinden kann.
HTH
Axel
--
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kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: kerniebc@sp.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Christian Kernbach)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: startx and Xnext with DR2 for PPC
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 02:48:57 +0200
Organization: Spyglass
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Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Christian Kernbach <kerniebc@sp.zrz.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> : Hi,
>
> : I´m looking for some help with Xnext. Can someone tell me how to create
> : or get from(some help) a usable startx/.xinitrc etc. for using Xnext. I
> : can start the server but I´m unable to start any program like the
> : windowserver twm or anything else.
> : Is there any information in the net about compiling programs for
> : rhapsody? Is it difficult? I want to compile GRASS. Any help?
>
> Viertens: Ein Tip. Evtl. musst Du nur die Environment-Variable
> DISPLAY setzen. Unter tcsh ungefaehr so: setenv DISPLAY localhost:0
> oder, falls Du DR1 oder 2 benutzt 'setenv DISPLAY :0', weil Xnext
> unter DR[12] den eigenen Hostnamen nicht richtig rausfinden kann.
Hi,
also ich benutze DR2 auf einen G3 233 und sorry fuer die englische
Message.
Ich habe folgende Eintraege in meinem .xinitrc vorgenommen
setenv DISPLAY :0
exec twm
Xnext startet nach wie vor ohne Probleme (wie ohne Eintrag), ich kann
aber kein Programm ausfuehren.
Ich bekomme folgende Meldungen auf der Console
Detecting screen dimensions.
Jul 31 00:32:10 Xnext[571] Pixelencoding [PPPPPPPP].
Jul 31 00:32:10 Xnext[571] Setup complete.
Jul 31 00:32:10 Xnext[571] Executing /Local/Users/grass/.xinitrc.
Error: Can't open display: :0
Width:832 Height:604 Depth:8 BPP:8 Pad: 832.
Should use OPENSTEP palette.
Now, let's have a look at the color map:
Class 0, 0 free entries.
Ended up with:
Width:832 Height:604 Depth:8 BPP:8 Pad:832.
devPrivate is Pixmap.
Fehlen mir evt. noch weitere Skripte? Muss ich Xnext ueber startx
starten?
Bin fuer jeden Hinweis dankbar.
Christian
From: kerniebc@sp.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Christian Kernbach)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Prozesse abschiessen
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 02:52:25 +0200
Organization: Spyglass
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Hi,
weiss jemand ob es unter DR2 for PPC eine Möglichkeit gibt Prozesse per
Shortcut abzuschiessen. Oder bleibt nur noch der Neustart,wenn sich der
WorspaceManager aufgehängt hat?
--
Christian Kernbach
Grünberger Str.22
10243 Berlin
From: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NextStep on Windows NT
Date: 30 Jul 1998 18:09:47 GMT
Organization: Oldenburger Informations-Systeme, FRG
Distribution: world
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References: <6pptgv$pu3$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
In article <6pptgv$pu3$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss
<neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> writes:
> gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann) wrote:
> >In article <6ohv20$5jb$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss
> ><neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> writes:
> >> Am besten wirst du Mitglied im Apple EAP Programm.
> >> Es gibt ein DR mit einer ganz brauchbaren Entwicklungsumgebung.
> >
> >Dann gleich noch ein paar Fragen:
> >1a. wie wird man Apple Developer? (eMail Adresse zum Anmelden)?
Habe gerade auf Deinen Rat hin an eurodev@apple.com geschrieben. Mal
sehen, ob die antworten.
> http://www.apple.com/developer/
Ja, dort gibt es eine Online-Anmeldung, aber nicht fuer Europa. Die soll
irgendwann spaeter implementiert werden.
> >1b. Was kostet das? (500 US$ - stimmt das noch?)
> Fuer Apple Developer habe ich damals 400 Mark bezahlt, EAP kostet
> etwas mehr (ein paar tausend, wenn ich mich recht entsinne).
Was ist EAP? Laut NextToYou (sehr gute Zeitschrift!), Sommer 1998, p. 71
gibt es Select (500 US$) und Premier (3500 US$). Und ich sehe nichts, was
mich veranlassen koennte 3000US$ mehr fuer letzteres auszugeben.
> Dafuer enthaelt EAP die notwendige Software, die du zum Entwickeln
> brauchst, bei Apple Dev bekommst du derzeit nur die Betas fuer
> Rhapsody - und ob du die rechtzeitig vor dem Release von CR1 noch
> kriegst ist zumindest fraglich.
Das verwirrt mich: ich dachte bei DR2 fuer Intel seien auch
ProjectBuilder, Conversion Scripts NS->OS, Compiler, etc. dabei.
Was enthaelt also EAP mehr?
Laut Apple soll die Prozedur von Anmeldung bis zum Erhalt der Software CD
30 Tage dauern. Stimmt das etwa nicht? Wie lange hat es bei Dir gedauert?
> >2. Was sind die Voraussetzungen fuer einen Intel Computer, damit das
> >Rhapsody Developer Release darauf laeuft? (URL zu der hardware
> >compatibility list)
> http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server
http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server/rhapdev/DR2_PC.html
Gerriet.
From: Axel.Rau@Fr.Bosch.DE (Axel Rau - QI/RZS1)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OS 4.2: Installation mit 2 SCSI-Controller an einem PCI-Bus
Date: 31 Jul 1998 07:24:04 GMT
Organization: The Bosch Group (Robert Bosch GmbH, Germany)
Message-ID: <6prrek$r3q$1@news.fr.internet.bosch.de>
Hallo--
Versuche OPENSTEP 4.2 zu installieren. Die Kiste hat
- Adaptec AIC-7880 (UW, Dev: 6) *und*
- Adaptec AHA 2940 (U, Dev: 16)
Bei der Treiberauswahl werden beide Controller erkannt und mit den
Device-Adressen oben angezeigt. Leider findet das Betriebssystem nur
den ersten (Dev: 6), an dem zwar die Festplatte, nicht aber das CDROM-
Laufwerk haengt. Ich benutze den neusten Treiber fuer die 2940/7880-
Familie.
Ich vermute, man kann durch Duplizieren des Driver-Bundle auf der
Driver-Disk und entsprechendes Anpassen der Instance0.table-s (Location
Dev: 16 etc) das gewuenschte Ziel erreichen.
Dankbar fuer Hinweise,
Axel
--
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OS 4.2: Installation mit 2 SCSI-Controller an einem PCI-Bus
Date: 31 Jul 1998 07:42:41 GMT
Organization: Univerity Essen, Germany
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Axel Rau - QI/RZS1 (Axel.Rau@Fr.Bosch.DE) wrote:
: Hallo--
:
: Versuche OPENSTEP 4.2 zu installieren. Die Kiste hat
: - Adaptec AIC-7880 (UW, Dev: 6) *und*
: - Adaptec AHA 2940 (U, Dev: 16)
: Bei der Treiberauswahl werden beide Controller erkannt und mit den
: Device-Adressen oben angezeigt. Leider findet das Betriebssystem nur
: den ersten (Dev: 6), an dem zwar die Festplatte, nicht aber das CDROM-
: Laufwerk haengt. Ich benutze den neusten Treiber fuer die 2940/7880-
: Familie.
:
: Ich vermute, man kann durch Duplizieren des Driver-Bundle auf der
: Driver-Disk und entsprechendes Anpassen der Instance0.table-s (Location
: Dev: 16 etc) das gewuenschte Ziel erreichen.
Wahrscheinlich ist das richtig, aber ich wuerde es erst einmal stufen-
weise probieren:
Zunaechst mit Configure.app einfach eine zweite Instanz anlegen. Sollte
diese dann nicht den 'zweiten' Kontroller verwalten, sondern sich auch
auf 'den ersten stuerzen' (dabei evtl. sagen, dass der schon gemanaged
wird), wuerde ich die Instance1.table (fuer den zweiten Kontroller)
dahingehend modifizieren, dass, sie nur auf die PCI-ID-Kennung des
zweiten Kontrollers anspricht, d.h. alle anderen Kennungen fuer
Adaptecs daraus loeschen. Der AIC-7880 (UW) hat doch bestimmt eine
andere PCI-ID (ich meine jetzt nicht auf dem Bus, sondern eine 'private'
PCI-ID a la Seriennnummer, wie sie beim Booten angezeigt wird), als
der AHA 2940 (U), oder? Sonst geht das natuerlich nicht.
Selbst wenn das alles funktioniert, kann es noch ein weiteres Problem
geben. Irgendwann einmal (oh je, das Gedaechtnis) wurde im Zusammenhang
mit SCSI, EIDE, CD's an EIDE und der Tatsache, das EIDE-CD-Laufwerke
wie SCSI-Laufwerke verwaltet werden (sie bekommen ja eine (Pseudo-)
sd? Kennung) geschrieben, dass die 'generischen' SCSI Devices (angesteuert
ueber sg0-4) nur fuer den 'ersten' Treiber (damals die Diskussion
EIDE/SCSI) zur Verfuegung stehen. Dies koennte hier natuerlich fuer die
'beiden' SCSI Hostadapter gelten. Die generischen Devices stehen dann
evtl. nur fuer den erst-erkannten Adapter zur Verfuegung. Das koennte
gerade fuer das (SCSI-)CD Laufwerk dann unangenehm werden (Auswerfen etc.).
Da hilft wohl nur Probieren - und die Erfahrung dann bitte in der Liste
(oder auch privat) mitzuteilen!? Danke.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
--
H.-R. Oberhage
Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
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D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NextStep on Windows NT
Date: 31 Jul 1998 11:05:21 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6ps8dh$55b$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann) wrote:
>> http://www.apple.com/developer/
>Ja, dort gibt es eine Online-Anmeldung, aber nicht fuer Europa. Die soll
>irgendwann spaeter implementiert werden.
Es gibt dort aber fuer uns arme Europaer PDF Formulare zum Herunterladen,
Ausfuellen, hinschicken. NICHT faxen, Apple besteht auf Papier wegen der
Unterschrift.
>> >1b. Was kostet das? (500 US$ - stimmt das noch?)
>> Fuer Apple Developer habe ich damals 400 Mark bezahlt, EAP kostet
>> etwas mehr (ein paar tausend, wenn ich mich recht entsinne).
>Was ist EAP? Laut NextToYou (sehr gute Zeitschrift!), Sommer 1998, p. 71
>gibt es Select (500 US$) und Premier (3500 US$). Und ich sehe nichts, was
>mich veranlassen koennte 3000US$ mehr fuer letzteres auszugeben.
Jau, Premier ist eher was fuer sehr grosse Companies, die auch die
diversen Support Incidents nutzen. Fuer kleine Laeden ist Select
wohl die bessere Wahl.
EAP != Apple Dev.
EAP ist das Enterprise Alliance Program, eine Fortfuehrung eines
Programmes, was es damals schon von NeXT gab. Als EAP Member bekommst
du im Prinzip einen kompletten Satz Handbuecher, Software, Lizenzen
etc die du zum Entwickeln brauchst, unter anderem auch solche
(teuren) Leckerbissen wie WebObjects. Deploymentlizenzen sind
natuerlich nicht dabei, sie koennen ja nicht _alles_ verschenken.
Auf dem Papier ist bei EAP uebrigens nicht das Rhapsody Beta
enthalten, es lag bei uns aber trotzdem bei.
>> Dafuer enthaelt EAP die notwendige Software, die du zum Entwickeln
>> brauchst, bei Apple Dev bekommst du derzeit nur die Betas fuer
>> Rhapsody - und ob du die rechtzeitig vor dem Release von CR1 noch
>> kriegst ist zumindest fraglich.
>Das verwirrt mich: ich dachte bei DR2 fuer Intel seien auch
>ProjectBuilder, Conversion Scripts NS->OS, Compiler, etc. dabei.
>Was enthaelt also EAP mehr?
Siehe oben. Ausserdem, wie gesagt, bekommst du die komplette SW, also
die Releaseversion von WO, OPENSTEP Enterprise (=YB Windows) etc, bei
AppleDev nur Betas. What you get is what you pay for.
>Laut Apple soll die Prozedur von Anmeldung bis zum Erhalt der Software CD
>30 Tage dauern. Stimmt das etwa nicht? Wie lange hat es bei Dir gedauert?
Kommt ungefaehr hin, ich habe aber damals keine DR1 mehr erhalten. Ob das
daran liegt, dass sie keine CD's mehr hatte, oder daran, dass sie dir
nur die Software schicken, die zur _Laufzeit_ deiner Membership 'seeded'
wird, weiss ich nicht. Zur Not kannst du dir die CD's ja kopieren, wenn
du registrierter Apple Developer mit unterschriebener NDA bist, sollte
das legitim sein (Disclaimer: ich bin Entwickler, kein Anwalt :).
Also.. wie gesagt: EAP enthaelt Entwicklerlizenzen, AppleDev das
Seeding fuer diverse Betas. Entwickeln _kannst_ du mit beiden,
aber theoretisch _darfst_ du mit dem Beta entwickelte Software
nicht verkaufen, muesstest also ohnehin noch eine Lizenz kaufen,
und dann ist EAP wahrscheinlich die beste Loesung. Ob du also
gleich ins kalte Wasser springst, oder erst mal testweise unter
dem Beta entwickelst, kannst nur du beurteilen.
Hoffe die Info ist hilfreich,
Chris
--
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
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From: Paul Seelig <pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
Followup-To: de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Date: 31 Jul 1998 15:24:27 +0200
Organization: En Casa S.A.
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Christoph Lorenz <ChLorenz@csi.com> writes:
> Jost Boekemeier <jostobfe@weintraube.zrz.tu-berlin.no-spam.de> writes:
>
> > Alternativ könntest Du Dir MS-Windows NT ansehen, welches (noch) eine
> > bessere Benutzeroberfläche als Linux hat
>
> Sorry, aber die Oberfläche von NT ist ein Witz, weiter nichts.
> Für Spielzeugsysteme a la ´95 oder ´98 mag es ja noch angehen, wenn
> bei jedem Sch****, sei es beim Anmelden, beim Kopieren oder Löschen
> von Files, beim Mails-Abholen, beim Starten von Systemdiensten und
> weiß der Geier was, andauern irgendwelche Animationen am Bildschirm
> herumflackern, aber für ein System, das nach eigener Aussage
> professionell sein soll, ist derartiger Kinderkram wirklich fehl
> am Platz. Jedenfalls fühle ich mich von der ach so tollen NT-Oberfläche
> regelmäßig verarscht und für dumm verkauft.
>
Habe gerade eben hier auf der Arbeit ein bisschen in einem Exemplar
von "Das grosse NeXT Buch" von Tobias Weltner (verlegt bei Data Becker
im Jahre 1991) geschmoekert und bin schockiert darueber, was schon
1991 auf so elegante Art und Weise unter Unix realisiert wurde. Das
ist umso trauriger, da ganz offensichtlich MS-Win95/NT keinen Deut
besser sind als eine Technik, die schon vor ueber 7 (sieben!) Jahren
State of the Art war. Das muss man sich mal reinziehen, wenn man
Literatur ueber NeXTstep findet, einfach um nur mal herauszufinden,
welche ueblen GUI-Kruecken uns heute unter rueckstaendigen
Betriebssystemen als _der_ Industriestandard angetan werden. Zur
Illustration der Vorzuege der NeXTstep-Oberflaeche folgende URL:
http://www3.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/
Was ich allerdings noch schrecklicher in diesem Kontext finde ist die
Tatsache, dass offensichtlich die heutigen jungen Programmierer der
GNU/Freie Software Generation in einem erschreckendem Mass durch die
kranken GUI-Konzepte des MS-Windows-Standards gepraegt worden sind und
aus blosser Unkenntnis besserer Konzepte wie NeXTstep heraus keine
Vision fuer fortschrittlichere Konzepte zu haben scheinen. Man schaue
sich mal KDE und Gnome aus dieser Perspektive heraus genauer an! :-(
Und der absolute Abschuss ist fuer mich, dass schon *weit* vor den
allerersten Ansaetzen fuer ein KDE oder Gnome das GNUstep-Projekt
("http://www.gnustep.org/") bestand, das eine freie Implementierung
der OpenStep-Spezifikation (NeXTstep-Nachfolge) zu realisieren
trachtet. Fuer NeXTstep vielfach existierende Applikationen koennten
unter GNUstep mit relativ geringem Aufwand portiert werden. Es gibt
eine Fuelle vorzueglicher GUI-basierter Applikationen fuer NeXTstep,
die ebenfalls schon seit langem unter einen freien Lizenz verfuegbar
sind und quasi potentiell bereits zur Verfuegung stehen, sobald
GNUstep fertig waere. Aber anstatt ein in der Praxis vorzueglich
bewaehrtes Konzept fuer die freie Welt umzusetzen ziehen anscheinend
alle vor, das Rad in Form von Projekten wie KDE oder Gnome (die selbst
wiederum allzu offensichtlich auf einem arg halbgaren GUI-Konzept aus
Redmond aufzusetzen scheinen) praktisch neu zu erfinden.
Das kotzt mich echt ziemlich an. :-(
MfG, P. *8^)
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Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany
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From: Matthias Waehlisch <mw@fhtw-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NT und NeXTStep
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:22:33 +0200
Organization: FHTW-Berlin
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Hi,
ich habe ein ganz gro=DFes problem.
wir haben an unserer schule ein netzwerk und wollen jetzt NeXT
installieren. das problem liegt darin, dass windows NT schon installiert
ist samt seinem bootloader und wir diesen gerne erhalten wollen.
wenn ich aber NeXT installieren w=FCrde, w=FCrde das installationsprogram=
m
diesen =FCberschreiben und durch seinen eigenen ersetzen.
a) wei=DF jemand wie man das umgehen kann bzw. gibt es m=F6glichkeiten Ne=
XT
zu installieren nachdem man NT installiert hat?
b) gibt es einen einfache methode NeXT =FCber das netzwerk zu
installieren, =
so dass die clients kein cd-rom-laufwerk ben=F6tigen?
ein hoffnungsvoller =
NT und NeXT fan
mw@fhtw-berlin.de
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
Date: 31 Jul 1998 16:09:52 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6psq8g$5vs$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <87n29qp304.fsf@dialin164.zdv.uni-mainz.de>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Jul 1998 16:09:52 GMT
Paul Seelig <pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de> wrote:
> [...]
>Vision fuer fortschrittlichere Konzepte zu haben scheinen. Man schaue
>sich mal KDE und Gnome aus dieser Perspektive heraus genauer an! :-(
>[...]Fuer NeXTstep vielfach existierende Applikationen koennten
>unter GNUstep mit relativ geringem Aufwand portiert werden. Es gibt
>eine Fuelle vorzueglicher GUI-basierter Applikationen fuer NeXTstep,
>die ebenfalls schon seit langem unter einen freien Lizenz verfuegbar
>sind und quasi potentiell bereits zur Verfuegung stehen, sobald
>GNUstep fertig waere.
scheint gar nicht nicht noetig zu sein, fuer kde gibt es bereits mehr -- und
dieser "neumodische quatsch" ist gar nicht so schlecht.
Konzepte? der erfolg gibt denen recht. :-(
wenn das ganze nicht aus c++ waehre -- ich haette schon die pferde
gewechselt!
daniel
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NT und NeXTStep
Date: 31 Jul 1998 16:23:07 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6psr1b$css$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <35C1D329.D647BE84@fhtw-berlin.de>
Matthias Waehlisch <mw@fhtw-berlin.de> wrote:
>ich habe ein ganz gro=DFes problem.
>wir haben an unserer schule ein netzwerk und wollen jetzt NeXT
>installieren. das problem liegt darin, dass windows NT schon installiert
>ist samt seinem bootloader und wir diesen gerne erhalten wollen.
Kein Problem. Einfach draufinstallieren. NeXTSTEP unterstuetzt
Dual Boot - man kann also nahc der Installation NT booten. Der
umgekehrte Weg ist es, der Probleme bereitet - bei Installation
von NT oder W95 wird der vorherige Bootsektor kaputtgemacht,
egal ob es Linux, OPENSTEP, was auch immer war. Seltsam, nicht?
>b) gibt es einen einfache methode NeXT =FCber das netzwerk zu
>installieren, =
> so dass die clients kein cd-rom-laufwerk ben=F6tigen?
Nicht praktikabel.
Ihr installiert doch bestimmt keine Raubkopien, oder?
Rgds, Chris
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From: Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
Date: 31 Jul 1998 16:51:46 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
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Daniel Boehringer <boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
: Paul Seelig <pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de> wrote:
:> [...]
:>Vision fuer fortschrittlichere Konzepte zu haben scheinen. Man schaue
:>sich mal KDE und Gnome aus dieser Perspektive heraus genauer an! :-(
:>[...]Fuer NeXTstep vielfach existierende Applikationen koennten
:>unter GNUstep mit relativ geringem Aufwand portiert werden. Es gibt
:>eine Fuelle vorzueglicher GUI-basierter Applikationen fuer NeXTstep,
:>die ebenfalls schon seit langem unter einen freien Lizenz verfuegbar
:>sind und quasi potentiell bereits zur Verfuegung stehen, sobald
:>GNUstep fertig waere.
: scheint gar nicht nicht noetig zu sein, fuer kde gibt es bereits mehr -- und
: dieser "neumodische quatsch" ist gar nicht so schlecht.
: Konzepte? der erfolg gibt denen recht. :-(
: wenn das ganze nicht aus c++ waehre -- ich haette schon die pferde
: gewechselt!
Man kann sowohl unter Gnome als unter KDE wegen CORBA im Prinzip
jede Sprache benutzen. So wie ich das kapiert habe ist das
technologisch eventuell toller als NeXTstep, weil Verteilung der
Objekte im Netz und SprachunabhÙngigkeit kein Problem mehr sein sollte.
Damit hat man wirkliche Objekte auf seinem Rechner, die man von
öberall her (jede Sprach und jeder Platz) verwenden kann.
Wegen GNUstep: das kam einfach bei den Entwicklern offensichtlich
nicht so gut an und dann hat keiner daran weitergearbeitet. Auûerdem
glaube ich nicht, daû es so schlimm ist, wenn die Leute unter Linux
etwas anderes, vielleicht sogar besseres bauen. Solange das noch nicht
da ist, bleibe ich auch erstmal bei NeXTstep und auch ich habe lange
davon getrÙumt, auf einem freien, schnellen Unix und auf einem
schnellen Rechner för umsonst ein NeXTstep Ùhnliches Umfeld zu
haben. Aber jetzt denke ich, daû KDE vielleicht neue Möglichkeiten
eröffnet. Lassen wir ihnen doch eine Chance.... Jedenfalls kann bei
KDE niemand in seiner Göttlichkeit einfach das Projekt einstampfen so
wie jetzt bei Rhapsody.
Eberhard
From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OpenStep/Academic bundle?
Date: 31 Jul 1998 17:43:54 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
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Hallo,
vor vielen Jahren gab es mal das Angebot, die NeXTStep(Intel) Developer
Version als academic bundle fuer 590,- oder so zu bekommen. Gibt es
etwas derartiges eigentlich jetzt auch noch?
Joerg
From: Paul Seelig <pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.unix.discussion,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT/Openstep Einfuehrung usw gesucht
Followup-To: de.comp.os.unix.discussion,de.comp.sys.next
Date: 31 Jul 1998 20:00:03 +0200
Organization: En Casa S.A.
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Tim Jansen <tim@systembureau.com> writes:
> Nachdem auch hier immer wieder Leute bei den KDE-Diskussionen
> erwaehnten, wie gut Openstep als UI und die Entwicklung dafuer sein soll
> und ich bislang ein solches System leider noch nicht zu gesicht bekommen
> habe: gibt es irgendwo eine nette Einführung und das System (entweder
> WWW oder Buch)? Im Web habe ich bislang Unmengen von FAQs und aehnlichem
> gesehen, aber nichts was mir wirklich einen Eindruck vermittelt.
>
Als Buch kenne ich leider nur "Das grosse NeXT Buch" von Tobias
Weltner, herausgegeben von Data Becker, Duesseldorf 1991 unter der
ISBN 3-89011-545-4. Ich bezweifle aber, dass es noch im Handel
erhaeltlich ist. Jedenfalls wird darin auf fast 600 Seiten ein
schoener Rundumblick ueber NeXTstep geboten.
Es gab diverse Artikel ueber NeXTstep und OpenStep in der c't und der
iX in den letzten Jahren. Mein Heise-Register gibt folgendes her:
--------------------------------snip---------------------------------
Suche nach: NeXT
iX
Titel Autor AusgabeSeite
NeXTSTEP Programming: Concepts and Plöger, Andreas 7/94 185
Applications (hb)
c't - magazin für computer technik
Titel Autor AusgabeSeite
Der PC von morgen? Christian Persson 12/88 30
Steve Jobs stellte "NeXT"-Computer vor (cp)
Einblicke in den Würfel Axel Dittes (ad) 2/89 24
Mach: ein Unix für die Zukunft Avadis Tevanian 12/89 284
Ein objektorientierter Kernel für die jr., Ben Smith
Legende unter den Betriebssystemen (ad)
NeXT Generation Stephan Ehrmann 11/90 26
Steve Jobs stellt vier neue Produkte vor (se)
Würfels schönes Schwesterlein Axel Dittes, 2/91 104
Die NeXTstation kommt nach Deutschland Stephan Ehrmann
(ad)
Ersatzscheiben Axel Dittes (ad) 6/91 216
SCSI-Platten am NeXT
NeXT lernt laufen Axel Dittes (ad) 7/91 198
Erste Schritte in fremder Umgebung
Ein bißchen PC Axel Dittes (ad) 8/91 90
SoftPC, Emulator für den NeXT
Text auf dem NeXT Heinrich Rode 8/91 166
WordPerfect für NeXT-Computer (ad)
Digitale Sammelmappe Heinrich Rode 10/91 158
Album für NeXT-Computer (ad)
Zurück in die Wirklichkeit Oliver Unter 11/91 58
NeXT-Computer in der Praxis Ecker (ad)
NeXT als Tonstudio Axel Dittes (ad) 12/91 18
Der NeXT lernt lesen Harald Schicke 12/91 192
HSD-Scanner Scan-X professionel, (ad)
OCR-Servant
Musik als Nebenprodukt Martin Fischer 2/92 38
Internationale Computermusik-Konferenz (cm)
ICMC'91 in Montreal
Igel und Hase Detlef Borchers 4/92 44
Unix als alternatives Betriebssystem für (db)
PCs
Grenzgänger Dr. Adolf Ebeling 11/92 166
Adobes Illustrator 4.0 als (ae)
Windows-Version
Blickwinkel Max Winkler (it) 7/93 150
Lotus Improv für Windows 2.0
2B v 2B Carsten Meyer 12/95 18
Die BeBox -der NeXTe Mac? (cm)
Suche nach: OpenStep
iX
Titel Autor AusgabeSeite
Teufel und Weihwasser Behme, Henning (hb) 1/94 10
OpenStep: Next und SunSoft kooperieren
Stepschritt Ralph Huelsenbusch 4/95 18
OpenStep fuer Windows NT und Win95 von (rh)
Next
Rettung der Avantgarde Martin Michlmayr 9/95 173
OpenStep: Nexts und Suns gemeinsame (hb)
Anwendungsschnittstelle
Alles eins Andreas Christiani 5/97 142
OpenStep aus Programmierersicht (hb)
Developing Business Applications with Andreas Ploeger 9/97 163
OpenStep (hb)
Startschus^ Detlev Droege (js) 12/97 56
Apples Rhapsody: OpenStep mit
MacOS-Antlitz
c't - magazin für computer technik
Titel Autor AusgabeSeite
Sun heiratet Next Axel Kossel 1/94 34
(ad)
Baukasten-Software Ralf Hüskes 6/94 214
Die ComponentWare-Pläne der großen: (hk)
Microsoft, IBM, Novel...
--------------------------------snip---------------------------------
Im WWW gibt es abgesehen vom obligatorischen "http://www.next.com/"
und "http://www.gnustep.org/" noch eine IMHO sehr schoene Site unter
"http://www3.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/", die mit vielen Screenshots
die durchdachte GUI demonstriert. Mehr kenne ich auf Anhieb leider
noch nicht und ich hoffe, dass hier noch jemannd anders gute Tips
bringt.
Es koennten einem bei der Lektuere echt die Traenen kommen, wenn man
sieht was damit schon Ende der 80er bzw. Anfang der 90er Jahre fuer
die GUI unter Unix realisiert wurde, waehrend wir uns heutzutage mit
drittklassigen Benutzeroberflaechen plagen lassen muessen. Und alle
Welt glaubt, dass sogenannte freie (wenn auch zumindest zweitklassige)
Implementierungen eben dieser selben fragwuerdigen Konzepte eine
Loesung fuer die GUI-Misere unter den freien Unixen bedeuten sollen,
ohne es *wirklich* so sehr viel besser zu machen, wie es uns bereits
vor *acht* Jahren mit NeXTstep demonstriert wurde. (Ja, meine Saetze
sind wirklich zu lang...)
Debian Linux hat in der gerade erschienen neuen 2.0 Release ueberigens
fertig gepackte GNUstep-Binaries dabei. Es handelt sich dabei aber
nicht um fertige Anwendersoftware, sondern um halbwegs aktuelle
Versionen der Entwicklungsbibliotheken.
Ich finde, dass die GNUstep-Leute dringend ein bisschen Publicity
brauchen, um eine breitere Unterstuetzung fuer sie loszutreten. Waere
das nicht was fuer den beruehmt-beruechtigten Slashdot-Effekt via
"http://slashdot.org/"? Wer mit echter Kompetenz in diesen Fragen
wuerde mithelfen, ein kleines Editorial dafuer vorzubereiten?
MfG, P. *8^)
PS: F'upTo
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
Date: 31 Jul 1998 18:29:50 GMT
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Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
>Man kann sowohl unter Gnome als unter KDE wegen CORBA im Prinzip
>jede Sprache benutzen. So wie ich das kapiert habe ist das
>technologisch eventuell toller als NeXTstep, weil Verteilung der
>Objekte im Netz und SprachunabhÙngigkeit kein Problem mehr sein sollte.
Programmier mal mit Corba, und dann komm zurueck, und erzaehl uns
wie das alles ueberhaupt kein Problem ist.
Darf ich uebrigens vorschlagen, diesen ganzen Programmiersprachen-
schnickschnack sein zu lassen, Wissenschaftler in den USA haben vor
kurzem festgestellt dass man mit einer dieser neuartigen "Touring"
Maschinen alle maschinell berechenbaren Probleme loesen kann - und
das mit einem ganz einfachen Befehlssatz, den jeder in nur wenigen
Stunden erlernen kann. Und ist (angeblich) noch bunter als KDE und
Windows95 - k00l!!
Chris
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OpenStep/Academic bundle?
Date: 31 Jul 1998 18:31:54 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann) wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>vor vielen Jahren gab es mal das Angebot, die NeXTStep(Intel) Developer
>Version als academic bundle fuer 590,- oder so zu bekommen. Gibt es
>etwas derartiges eigentlich jetzt auch noch?
Ja. Zum Beispiel bei RCN (www.rcn.de), oder bei Academy in Berlin.
Aktuelle Version ist 4.2.
Rgds, Chris
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From: "Martin Spott" <Martin.Spott@uni-duisburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.unix.discussion,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Display-GhostScript, War: Re: NeXT/Openstep Einfuehrung usw gesucht
Date: 31 Jul 1998 22:14:39 GMT
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In de.comp.os.unix.discussion Paul Seelig <pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de> wrote:
> Ich finde, dass die GNUstep-Leute dringend ein bisschen Publicity
> brauchen, um eine breitere Unterstuetzung fuer sie loszutreten. [...]
Ich moechte da eine Frage anknuepfen, die ich bisher nie so recht
unterbringen konnte:
Bisher gibt es das Display-GhostScript nur in Form eines separaten
Interpreters (dpsnx.agent) auf dem display-client. Ist jemandem bekannt, ob
der Interpreter irgendwann mal seinen Weg als Modul z.B. in einen X Server
von XFre86 finden soll ?
Martin.
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From: kris@koehntopp.de (Kristian Koehntopp)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.unix.discussion,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT/Openstep Einfuehrung usw gesucht
Date: 1 Aug 1998 10:29:14 +0200
Organization: Pinguin an Bord.
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Paul Seelig <pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de> writes:
>Es koennten einem bei der Lektuere echt die Traenen kommen, wenn man
>sieht was damit schon Ende der 80er bzw. Anfang der 90er Jahre fuer
>die GUI unter Unix realisiert wurde, waehrend wir uns heutzutage mit
>drittklassigen Benutzeroberflaechen plagen lassen muessen.
Nextstep hat niemals eine Chance gehabt, sich durchzusetzen.
Dazu bricht es viel zu konsequent mit einer ganzen Reihe von
unsinnigen und verstaubten Unix-Konzepten.
Natuerlich lag unter Nextstep eine 4.3BSD API (auf einem
Mach-Kernel), sodass man jedes SunOS 4.1.3 kompatible Programmen
ohne Probleme hat uebersetzen und ausfuehren koennen, aber
Nextstep-Programme selber sollen diese API nicht verwenden und
sie tun auch gut daran, dies nicht zu tun.
Nextstep-Anwendungen selber sind in der Regel in Objective-C
geschrieben gewesen, eine Sprache, die eine von C++ verschiedene
Syntax und ein von C++ verschiedenes Objektkonzept verwendet. Im
Gegensatz zu C++ legt Objective-C den Schwerpunkt nicht auf
Geschwindigkeit, sondern auf Flexibilitaet, leichte
Erlernbarkeit und Komfort. Die Faehigkeiten von Objective-C, die
in modernen C++-Bibliotheken ausserhalb der Sprache manuell und
auch nur teilweise nachgebildet werden koennen, erlauben eine
sehr komfortable und kompakte Bereitstellung von wesentlichen
Systemfeatures - da diese (noch zu nennenden) Eigenschaften in
der Sprache selbst realisiert wurden, ziehen sich diese
Eigenschaften automatisch durch das ganze System.
In Nextstep hat Objective-C mehrere sehr wichtige Eigenschaften
in der Sprache implementiert: Dazu gehoert die Bindung von
Methoden an Funktionsadressen ueber Methodennamen statt
Referenzen, was ein sehr flexibles Methodendispatching erlaubt
(und ein Laufzeitsystem sowie ein wenig Geschwindigkeitsverlust
nach sich zieht - darum lehnt die C++-Fraktion so etwas als evil
ab). In Folge konnten das Messaging fuer Objective-C Objekte zum
Methodenaufruf und das Messaging von GUI-Objekten an
Anwendungsobjekte (GUI-Events) unifiziert werden: In
Nextstep-Programmen sieht man keine Eventloops, weil GUI-Events
und Objective-C Methodenaufrufe gleichmaechtig sind und so als
ein- und dasselbe dargestellt werden koennen. Toolkits wie Qt
bilden dies mit dem Signal/Slot-Mechanismus muehsam zu Fuss
nach.
Ein Seiteneffekt des Objective-C Laufzeitsystems ist die
Faehigkeit der Sprache zur Introspektion: Jedes Objective-C
Programm kann seine Variablen und Klassen aufzaehlen. Jede
Klasse kann ihre Instanzvariablen, Methodennamen und
Methodensignaturen (Eingabe- und Ausgabetypen einer Methode)
aufzaehlen. Auf diese Weise lassen sich generische Funktionen
zur Serializierung von Objective-C Objekten schreiben und Dinge
wie persistente Objekte und generische RPC-Dispatcherklassen
bekommt man geschenkt.
In der Praxis bedeutet dies, dass man sich in Nextstep anders
als etwa in einem C++- oder Java-GUI-Builder nicht mit einem
Codegenerator auseinandersetzen muss, der einem kilometerweise
Objektinitialisierungen emittet, die er spaeter moeglicherweise
nicht wieder parsen und einlesen kann, wenn man selber daran
geaendert hat, sondern dass Nextstep-GUI-Builder einfach das
fertig initialisierte Objektnetzwerk einer Anwendung erzeugen
und Abspeichern - die Anwendung laedt es dann wieder. Auch
Anwendungsprogramme selber brauchen idR kein "Datenformat" zu
definieren, sondern speichern einfach ihr Objektnetzwerk ab
(frieren das Dokument ein) und laden es spaeter wieder ein
(tauen es wieder auf).
Ein Nebeneffekt davon ist, dass alle Nextstep-Programme
eigentlich nur Frameworks sind, die man durch Nachladen von
passenden Klassen leicht erweitern kann. Ein
Nextstep-GUI-Builder kann also auch vom Anwender selbst
erstellte oder gekaufte Klassen nachladen und sie wie eingebaute
Systemklassen verarbeiten (genaugenommen gibt es gar keine
eingebauten Systemklassen). Dieses Nachladen ist dabei
Typsicher, weil durch die Introspektionsmoeglichkeiten vor der
Verwendung der neu geladenen Klassen ihre Konformitaet zur API
geprueft werden kann.
Ebenso ist durch die Bereitstellung von generischen
RPC-Proxyklassen die Entwicklung von verteilten Anwendungen
weitgehend mit der Entwicklung von lokalen Anwendungen
identisch. Als Anwendungsentwickler interessiert es einen
schlicht nicht, ob da ein Stueck Netz in einem Methodenaufruf
involviert ist oder nicht - die Bibliotheken kuemmern sich da
selber drum.
Ein anderer Zopf, den Nextstep abschneidet, ist X. X ist eine
Loesung fuer ein Problem, das gar nicht (mehr) existiert: Es
geht schon lange nicht mehr darum, auf einem Bildschirm zu
zeichnen, sondern Anwendungsprogramme wollen in der Regel
Ausgaben auf einem Ausgabegeraet erzeugen. Dieses Geraet kann
ein Bildschirm oder ein Netz von mehreren Bildschirmen sein, die
einen View in eine groessere virtuelle Sichtflaeche darstelle.
Es kann aber auch ein Drucker oder ein Belichter sein.
Anwendungen zeichnen in der Regel auch nicht irgendwas, sondern
verwenden sehr oft Bedienelemente, die immer wieder gleich
aussehen (Widgets in X).
Nextstep hat Display Postscript verwendet, dass alle diese
Probleme wesentlich eleganter loest: Nicht nur hat DPS "ab Werk"
ein Farbmanagement, ein vernuenftiges Fontmanagement, ein
generisches und absolut skalierbares Management von Anwendungs-
und Geraetekoordinaten, sondern DPS ist auch netzwerkfaehig und
spart im Gegensatz zu X jede Menge Bandbreite, da der Code zum
Zeichnen von Widgets nur einmal als Postscript-Bytecode zum
Windowserver geladen werden muss und dann mit einem kurzen
Aufruf beliebig oft aktiviert werden kann. DPS kommt dabei auch
mit der Konvertierung von (virtuellen) Fenstern auf beliebig
viele Bildschirme unterschiedlicher Farbtiefe zurecht - nebenbei
behandelt es (zumindest in der Implementierung von Next) auch
Sound und macht ab Werk Bild UND Ton auf demselben Arbeitsplatz
verfuegbar, auch wenn die Anwendungen auf anderen Rechnern im
Netz ablaufen. Ausserdem ist Postscript bei Ausgabequalitaet
natuerlich immer noch _die_ Referenz schlechthin...
Fuer jemanden aus einer Unix/Posix-Umgebung mit X muss Nextstep
wie eine Entwicklungsumgebung von einem anderen Stern erscheinen
- selbst heute, wo Entwicklungsumgebungen wie KDE erstmals in
der Unix-Welt damit beginnen, dem Anwendungsentwickler ein
sinnvolles Standardframework zur Verfuegung zu stellen, ist
Nextstep noch weit ueberlegen. Selbst einem Windows-verwoehnten
Entwickler werden an Nextstep noch viele Dinge auffallen - etwa,
dass das, was im Handbuch steht und das was funktioniert sehr
viel oefter identisch ist. :-)
Und was die Anwenderperspektive angeht: Das ist nur die eine,
kleine Haelfte von Nextstep. Nextstep mag sich nett anfuehlen
und es mag auch ein ausgezeichneter Beweis dafuer sein, dass man
auf einem Unix-Rechner keine Shell braucht und auch keine haben
will. Aber die wirkliche Staerke von Nextstep liegt darin, diese
Ergonomie erstmals und bisher unerreicht auch auf die Ebene der
Anwendungs_entwicklung_ durchgezogen zu haben. In Nextstep hat
man auch als Entwickler erstmals keine Schmerzen mehr...
Der Preis dafuer ist wie gesagt ein ziemlich radikaler Bruch mit
vielen Dingen, die von vielen Leuten als "essentiell wichtig"
oder "Unix definierend" angesehen werden. Der Ansatz von
Nextstep ist in keiner Weise evolutionaer, sondern immer radikal
revolutionaer gewesen. Man muss sich auf das System und seine
Konzepte einlassen und man muss seine Unix-Heritage (aber nicht
seine Erfahrung) ueber Bord werfen, wenn man damit arbeiten
moechte und wenn man die zugrundeliegenden Konzepte erfahren und
ihre Vorteile ausnutzen will. Tut man dies aber, will man nicht
mehr zurueck.
Kristian
PS: Es gibt ein sehr gutes Buch, das "Unix Haters Handbook".
Dieses Buch wurde von Leuten geschrieben, die zusammen
dreistellige Jahreszahlen Unix-Erfahrung mitbringen und die sich
dort einmal richtig ausgekotzt haben, was die mehr als 20 Jahre
Altlasten von Unix und die Schwachsinnigkeiten von X angeht.
Viele von denen, besonders aber Tog (sehr lesenswert: "Tog on
Interface"), haben auch "drumherum" einen ganzen Haufen Artikel
ueber Ergonomie, Software-Interfacedesign und andere Aspekte von
benutzbaren Systemen geschrieben. Ich kann dieses Buch nur jedem
KDE- und Gnome-Entwickler ans Herz legen - den "Linux ist das
Beste seit Erfindung des geschnittenen Brotes"-Advokaten hier
sowieso.
Ausserdem ist ein netter Unix Barf Bag mit dabei.
PPS: Das Web wurde von NeXT-Anwendern auf NeXT-Rechnern
entwickelt. Die Innovation, die das Internet, wie wir es
heute kennen, ueberhaupt gepraegt hat, konnte nur in einem
solchen Umfeld enstehen. Die libwww und der Cern-Webserver
wurden in Objective-C entwickelt und spaeter nach C
zurueckportiert. Denkt mal drueber nach.
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Gefaellt Ihnen, was Sie sehen?"
From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac,de.etc.finanz.boerse,bln.net.www
Subject: NEXTTOYOU Magazin bietet Apple Online-Aktienkurs
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Date: 1 Aug 1998 15:40:54 GMT
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NEXTTOYOU Magazin bietet Apple Online-Aktienkurs
Seit dem 10. Juli 1998 bietet das NEXTTOYOU Magazin nun zusaetzlich auf
seiner Homepage http://www.nexttoyou.de den neuen Service der fortlaufenden
Anzeige der Apple Aktienkurswerte an, wie an den Boersen der Wallstreet in
New York City und der Deutschen Boerse in Frankfurt notiert. Die Daten werden
alle zehn Minuten aktualisiert, woraus sich eine durchschnittliche
Verzoegerung von etwa fuenfzehn Minuten ergibt.
In Ergaenzung zu den von sechs Personen (mittels eines eigens dafuer
verfassten grafischen Frontends) kontinuierlich je nach Nachrichtengehalt
aktualisierten Schlagzeilen-URLs aus aller Welt, ermoeglicht dies nach Aufruf
einer leicht zu merkenden Adresse und auf einen Blick eine umfassende
Informationsquelle fuer interessierte Apple- und NeXT-Anwender, die staendig
up-to-date sein wollen oder muessen.
Die Druckform der NEXTTOYOU besteht seit 1994 und ist als unabhaengiges
Apple- und NeXT-Technologiemagazin bemueht, eine kritische und technisch
fundierte Sicht fuer Apple- und NeXT-Anwender anzubieten.
Weiterfuehrende Informationen, wie Preis- und Inhaltsangaben u.v.m., sind auf
der NEXTTOYOU-Homepage http://www.nexttoyou.de zu finden, koennen aber auch
bei der u.a. Kontaktadresse erfragt werden. Probehefte der NEXTTOYOU sind per
schriftlicher Bestellung gegen Briefmarken, Verrechnungsscheck oder mittels
Bankueberweisung (bitte Kopie der Ueberweisung beilegen) erhaeltlich.
NEXTTOYOU Verlags GbR Telefon: (0 91 95) 995 682
Abo-Service Telefax: (0 91 95) 995 683
Sperberweg 10 E-Mail: info@nexttoyou.de Allgemeines
91334 Hemhofen abo@nexttoyou.de Bestellungen
Hinweis: Die Angabe der Aktienkurswerte auf http://www.nexttoyou.de erfolgt
ohne Gewaehr und dient lediglich privaten Informationszwecken.
--
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/ / +49 30 39731400 -401 (Fax)
\ __\ Berlin - Germany - Earth
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From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 03:36:52 +0200
Organization: University of Bonn, Germany / www.joint.org
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Hi, Bertram!
Bertram Smolny <bsmolny@primera.bgc-jena.mpg.de> wrote:
> vielleicht kannst Du dann ja mal der interressierten Gemeinde berichten,
> was MacOS X/server so ist
> ;-)
> ist es nun Unix oder ???
> oder gibts es jemanden, der das schon weiss ...
Ähh, wo gibt es da Unklarheiten?
Mac OS X /Server ist die Finale Version von RDR2 und das ist 4.4BSD Unix
mit DPS und eine grafischen Oberfläche mit Mac L&F (aber ohne X/Motif).
Gruß
Dirk
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From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NEXTTOYOU Magazin bietet Apple Online-Aktienkurs
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 06:48:45 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
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In article <35C35E52.D33A3040@yahoo.com> writes:
> VERBREITE DEINE WERBUNG WOANDERS!
Dem moechte ich WIDERSPRECHEN: ich fand die NEXTTOYOU-Ankuendigung in der
de-next Gruppe richtig plaziert. ausserdem war es nicht primaer werbung,
sondern info. zumindest empfand ich das so. schliesslich ging es um einen
kostenlosen service!
Zumal das ja wohl die EINZIGE NeXT-Zeitschrift in DL ist, oder? wenn sich
schon jemand die ganze arbeit macht, fuer uns NeXTler was zu tun, dann darf
er doch wohl hier ab und an ne msg posten, oder???
NEXTTOYOU: weiter so!
Helmut
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From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 06:51:46 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
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In article <1dd477u.12tovqwqgos8wN@rhrz-isdn3-p35.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) writes:
> Mac OS X /Server ist die Finale Version von RDR2 und das ist 4.4BSD Unix
> mit DPS und eine grafischen Oberfl che mit Mac L&F (aber ohne X/Motif).
Was, jetzt doch wieder DPS???? Ich dachte, Apple hatte das (leider)
abgesaegt??? Ich bin verwirrt (jetzt noch mehr als vorher)!!
Helmut
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Date: 1 Aug 1998 22:22:44 -0400
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: 2 Aug 1998 13:50:42 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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heller@altoetting-online.de wrote:
: In article <1dd477u.12tovqwqgos8wN@rhrz-isdn3-p35.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) writes:
: > Mac OS X /Server ist die Finale Version von RDR2 und das ist 4.4BSD Unix
: > mit DPS und eine grafischen Oberfl che mit Mac L&F (aber ohne X/Motif).
: Was, jetzt doch wieder DPS???? Ich dachte, Apple hatte das (leider)
: abgesaegt??? Ich bin verwirrt (jetzt noch mehr als vorher)!!
Nein, nicht doch wieder, sondern immer noch.
Lass Dich nicht verwirren. Immer dran denken - es werden laufend nur
die Namen geaendert, die Produkte bleiben gleich. Rhapsody CR1 ist
Mac OS X/Server. Erst Mac OS X wird kein DPS mehr haben, wenn es
naechstes Jahr irgendwann rauskommt.
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From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: 2 Aug 1998 15:10:23 GMT
Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany
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In <Ex1v2A.AD@heller.altoetting-online.de> heller@altoetting-online.de wrote:
> In article <1dd477u.12tovqwqgos8wN@rhrz-isdn3-p35.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
> theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) writes:
> > Mac OS X /Server ist die Finale Version von RDR2 und das ist 4.4BSD Unix
> > mit DPS und eine grafischen Oberfl che mit Mac L&F (aber ohne X/Motif).
>
> Was, jetzt doch wieder DPS???? Ich dachte, Apple hatte das (leider)
> abgesaegt??? Ich bin verwirrt (jetzt noch mehr als vorher)!!
MacOS X Server (Rhapsody 1.0) hat noch DPS, erst die kommende MacOS X (ohne
Server im Namen) Version wird kein DPS mehr haben und nicht mehr auf
INTEL-Rechnern laufen. Die ersten Versionen von MacOS X sollen im Januar 1999
verfügbar sein (wer es glaubt).
Tschau....
Jürgen
From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NEXTTOYOU Magazin bietet Apple Online-Aktienkurs
Date: 2 Aug 1998 15:12:45 GMT
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In <Ex1ux9.9o@heller.altoetting-online.de> heller@altoetting-online.de wrote:
> de-next Gruppe richtig plaziert. ausserdem war es nicht primaer werbung,
> sondern info. zumindest empfand ich das so. schliesslich ging es um einen
>
> Zumal das ja wohl die EINZIGE NeXT-Zeitschrift in DL ist, oder? wenn sich
> schon jemand die ganze arbeit macht, fuer uns NeXTler was zu tun, dann darf
>
> NEXTTOYOU: weiter so!
Die Frage ist wohl auch eher, wie die Zukunft der NEXTTOYOU aussieht (im
Moment wohl nicht so rosig, oder?).
Tschau....
Juergen
From: dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:10:26 +0100
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?tm"[IkcIi!P99.+vrN\b@%~)7Bm6=vzT;q\-Oq?U?XXEe<[Zw?.KqxLv
Dirk Theisen <theisen@akaMail.com> wrote:
> Mac OS X /Server ist die Finale Version von RDR2 und das ist 4.4BSD Unix
Yep!
> mit DPS und eine grafischen Oberfläche mit Mac L&F (aber ohne X/Motif).
^^^^___ ohne DPS!
Wie bei den "Apple University ... Days" zu hören war wird Rhapsody/PPC
alias MacOS X Server nicht mit DPS kommen. Adobe hat die Weiterentw. von
DPS eingestellt (so Apple). Man würde nicht auf ein todgeborenes Kind
setzen. Lieber verwendet man PDF mit einigen QuickDraw (GX)
Erweiterungen.
Leider bleibt dabei die Remote-Screen-Fähigkeit erstmal auf der Strecke,
aber es soll noch nicht das letzte Wort gesprochen sein. Bleibt also zu
hoffen ...
Ciao
Dieter
From: dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Wie OpenStep Entwicklung
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:10:27 +0100
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?tm"[IkcIi!P99.+vrN\b@%~)7Bm6=vzT;q\-Oq?U?XXEe<[Zw?.KqxLv
Moin,
Ich habe mich in letzter Zeit theoretisch mit OpenStep beschäftigt
(nicht durch den Apple-NeXT-Merge sondern durch eine Dortmunder Firma
wurde ich von den Vorteilen überzeugt [Danke für die Demo; ich komme
vielleich nochmal darauf zurück] ... genug abgeschweift)
Jetzt wäre es mal etwas Zeit für die Praxis, gerade weil ich ein paar
nette Ideen hätte, sogar für ein größeres Projekt. Nur kann ich mir es
nicht leisten einige Tausender für Entwicklungstools auszugeben, wo ich
doch nur Free-/Shareware programmieren möchte.
Wie kommt man an eine Entwicklerversion von Rhapsody (habe einen UMAX
S900 alias Pulsar alias GravisTT; also ein Mac-Clone auf Basis des
Tsunami-Boards).
Über die "klassischen Entwicklerprogramme" von Apple? Reicht das
"Mailing"-Programm (die DM 400,-- gebe ich dafür schon aus)? Oder muß es
eines der teueren Entwicklerprogramme sein, die mir zu teuer sind, weil
ich die Zusatzleistungen nicht möchte? Läuft es überhaupt auf meinem
Rechner?
Oder gibt es Alternativen? OpenStep/NT unter VirtualPC auf dem Mac
möchte ich mir allerdings nicht antun :-)
Thanx (Ähm) Danke eure Antworten
Dieter
P.S.: Gibt es hier noch andere "alter" Atarianer?
From: dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:26:20 +0100
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> Wie bei den "Apple University ... Days" zu hören war wird Rhapsody/PPC
> alias MacOS X Server nicht mit DPS kommen. Adobe hat die Weiterentw. von
Selbstkorrektur: MacOS X kommt ohne DPS. MacOS X Server ist ja nur das
umbenannte Rhapsody, deren DR2 ja immerhin DPS enthält. Aber ist es
sicher das das Final Release von Rhapsody (MacOS X Server) DPS enthalten
wird? Wahrscheinlich schon ...
Sorry wegen weiterer Verwirrungen.
Ciao
Dieter
From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
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Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 21:02:41 +0200
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Juergen Moellenhoff <jurgen@oic.de> wrote:
> Die ersten Versionen von MacOS X sollen im Januar 1999
> verfügbar sein (wer es glaubt).
Aber höchstens für Entwickler...
(nur um das klar zu stellen)
Dirk
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From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
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Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:24:45 +0200
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Hallo Dieter!
[Mac OS X]
> Leider bleibt dabei die Remote-Screen-Fähigkeit erstmal auf der Strecke,
> aber es soll noch nicht das letzte Wort gesprochen sein. Bleibt also zu
> hoffen ...
Ein Chross-Plattform Ersatz wird zur Einführung zur Verfügung stehen
(zumindest der Client).
Heißt VNC:
Christian Brunschen <cb@df.lth.se> schrieb vor 2 Monaten:
> > > VNC (see http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc ) could be ported if enough interest is
> > > there.
> >
> > The Java Client should at least run on Rhapsody and they have a FreeBSD
> > "port" (for X).
> I am currently working on an OPENSTEP client for Vnc. The server is
> another issue entirely though...
Dirk
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From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 17:28:49 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
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In article <6q1vgv$33u$1@nexus.oic.de> jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
writes:
> MacOS X Server (Rhapsody 1.0) hat noch DPS, erst die kommende MacOS X
(ohne
> Server im Namen) Version wird kein DPS mehr haben und nicht mehr auf
> INTEL-Rechnern laufen. Die ersten Versionen von MacOS X sollen im Januar
1999
> verf gbar sein (wer es glaubt).
Ah, jetzt verstehe ich!
Ich dachte, Mac OS X/Server sei ein NEUES Produkt, das nach Rhapsody CR1
kommen soll und hatte schon gehofft, darin ein Ueberleben von alter
NeXT-Technologie zu sehen. Aber da ja die Aussage war (ist?), dass nach
Rhapsody CR1 Schluss mit Rhapsody ist, wird wohl auch Mac OS X/Server nicht
mehr weiterentwickelt werden, oder sehe ich das jetzt wieder falsch?
Kurzum, was mich interessiert ist:
wird es nach Rhapsody CR1 noch ein Weiterleben der NeXT Technologie (DPS,
NXHosting, etc., nur eben Mac look&feel, arrrgh) bei Apple geben?
Servus,
Helmut
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From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: 3 Aug 1998 12:41:54 GMT
Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany
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In <6q3r5m$fi415@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> H.-R. Oberhage wrote:
> heller@altoetting-online.de wrote:
> > Rhapsody CR1 Schluss mit Rhapsody ist, wird wohl auch Mac OS X/Server
> > nicht mehr weiterentwickelt werden, oder sehe ich das jetzt wieder
> > falsch?
>
> Das ist die bisher von Apple verbreitete Aussage! Im c't (15/98) Interview
> mit Apples (sich immer etwas merkwuerdig ausdrueckenden, so dass man nicht
> weiss ob es Unwissenheit, Ungeschicklichkeit oder tiefe Einsicht ist) Herrn
> Bereskin war von Releases (Plural!) von Rhapsody die Rede, obwohl der von
Oh nein, bitte nicht anfangen die Worte die eines APPLE-Mitarbeiters zu
deuten, dann kannst Du gleich aus Teeblaettern versuchen Informationen ueber
die Zukunft der Yellow-Box und Rhapsody zu bekommen.
> S.O. Niemand weiss etwas (ausser evtl. innerhalb von Apple und die sagen
> nichts oder Belangloses). Wahrscheinlich ist: Kein DPS, kein NXHosting oder
Das ist sogar sicher und zusaetzlich wird es keine UNIX-Tools (zsh, csh, awk,
etc.) mehr geben, diese Tools wird es _vielleicht_ als Extra-Option geben
(vielleicht mit der Entwicklungsumgebung).
Tschau...
Juergen
From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 01:08:19 +0200
Organization: Completely Disorganized
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Dieter Fiebelkorn <dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de> wrote:
> > Wie bei den "Apple University ... Days" zu hören war wird Rhapsody/PPC
> > alias MacOS X Server nicht mit DPS kommen. Adobe hat die Weiterentw. von
>
> Selbstkorrektur: MacOS X kommt ohne DPS. MacOS X Server ist ja nur das
> umbenannte Rhapsody, deren DR2 ja immerhin DPS enthält. Aber ist es
> sicher das das Final Release von Rhapsody (MacOS X Server) DPS enthalten
> wird? Wahrscheinlich schon ...
Nein, wahrscheinlich nicht. Geplant ist ein erweitertest Quickdraw. Aber
Apple hat ja noch ein Jahr Zeit, um es sich anders zu überlegen.
Michael
--
Michael Schuerig
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http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs90z/
From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: 3 Aug 1998 01:53:33 GMT
Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany
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In <1dd5jmh.i2h5op7sbz9cN@rhrz-isdn3-p14.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Michael Schuerig
wrote:
> Dieter Fiebelkorn <dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de> wrote:
>
> > umbenannte Rhapsody, deren DR2 ja immerhin DPS enthält. Aber ist es
> > sicher das das Final Release von Rhapsody (MacOS X Server) DPS enthalten
> > wird? Wahrscheinlich schon ...
>
> Nein, wahrscheinlich nicht. Geplant ist ein erweitertest Quickdraw. Aber
> Apple hat ja noch ein Jahr Zeit, um es sich anders zu überlegen.
Wie soll Apple bis Ende 1998 DPS - bei MacOS X Server - gegen ein
"erweitertes Quickdraw" austauschen? Zaubern kann Apple auch nicht....
Tschau....
Juergen
From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: 3 Aug 1998 01:47:52 GMT
Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany
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In <1dd5e24.111qe0n1647ttsN@rhrz-isdn3-p16.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Dirk Theisen
wrote:
> Juergen Moellenhoff <jurgen@oic.de> wrote:
> > Die ersten Versionen von MacOS X sollen im Januar 1999 verfügbar sein
> > (wer es glaubt).
>
> Aber höchstens für Entwickler... (nur um das klar zu stellen)
Natuerlich, eine Version fuer End-User im Januar 1999 ist ja noch weniger
glaubhaft :-).
Juergen
From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:18:44 +0200
Organization: Completely Disorganized
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Juergen Moellenhoff <jurgen@oic.de> wrote:
> In <1dd5jmh.i2h5op7sbz9cN@rhrz-isdn3-p14.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Michael Schuerig
> wrote:
>
> > Dieter Fiebelkorn <dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de> wrote:
> >
> > > umbenannte Rhapsody, deren DR2 ja immerhin DPS enthält. Aber ist es
> > > sicher das das Final Release von Rhapsody (MacOS X Server) DPS enthalten
> > > wird? Wahrscheinlich schon ...
> >
> > Nein, wahrscheinlich nicht. Geplant ist ein erweitertest Quickdraw. Aber
> > Apple hat ja noch ein Jahr Zeit, um es sich anders zu überlegen.
>
> Wie soll Apple bis Ende 1998 DPS - bei MacOS X Server - gegen ein
> "erweitertes Quickdraw" austauschen? Zaubern kann Apple auch nicht....
Ups, da habe ich falsch gelesen. Klar, Mac OS X _Server_ wird DPS
enthalten. Mac OS X allerdings nicht.
Michael
--
Michael Schuerig
mailto:schuerig@acm.org
http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs90z/
From: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT/Openstep Einfuehrung usw gesucht
Date: 2 Aug 1998 08:19:06 GMT
Organization: Oldenburger Informations-Systeme, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6q17dq$if0@hazel.north.de>
References: <6pujkq$fvn$1@valiant.koehntopp.de>
In article <6pujkq$fvn$1@valiant.koehntopp.de> kris@koehntopp.de (Kristian
Koehntopp) writes:
> [ ... ]
> Der Preis dafuer ist wie gesagt ein ziemlich radikaler Bruch mit
> vielen Dingen, die von vielen Leuten als "essentiell wichtig"
> oder "Unix definierend" angesehen werden.
Welche Dinge sind das bitte? Ich habe mich auch als Unix Programmierer von
NextStep nie behindert gefuehlt (wenn man mal das unselige Posix Problem
auslaesst).
Gerriet.
From: Matthias Waehlisch <mw@fhtw-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NT und NeXTStep
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 10:21:47 +0200
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ich glaube es liegt ein mi=DFverst=E4ndnis vor. wir wollen den nt-bootloa=
der
behalten und nicht den von nextstep. aber genau dieser wird doch ersetzt
wenn ich next auf nt installiere. oder?
zu frage/antwort b):
es ist also nicht m=F6glich next ohne cd-laufwerk beim client zu
installieren? reicht es denn nicht aus wenn der server ein solches hat?
mit freundlichen gr=FC=DFen =
waehlisch, matthias
p.s.: wir installieren keine raubkopien.
From: bsmolny@primera.bgc-jena.mpg.de (Bertram Smolny)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: 3 Aug 1998 06:38:16 GMT
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
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In <6q34s8$fc$1@nexus.oic.de> Juergen Moellenhoff wrote:
>
> In <1dd5e24.111qe0n1647ttsN@rhrz-isdn3-p16.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Dirk Theisen
> wrote:
>
> > Juergen Moellenhoff <jurgen@oic.de> wrote:
> > > Die ersten Versionen von MacOS X sollen im Januar 1999 verfögbar sein
> > > (wer es glaubt).
> >
> > Aber höchstens för Entwickler... (nur um das klar zu stellen)
>
> Natuerlich, eine Version fuer End-User im Januar 1999 ist ja noch weniger
> glaubhaft :-).
>
> Juergen
--
also wenn man die Diskussion hier so liest, dann koennen einem schon Zweifel
an einem Konzept kommen.
Sportsgeist alleine reicht schon gar nicht mehr, um den Irrlichtern zu
folgen,
die da staendig angezuendet werden - da muss man schon fanatisch sein.
Ich arbeite jetzt seit meherern Jahren mit OS und war immer von der
Technologie
beeindruckt, mittlerweile ist alles so in die Jahre gekommen und siehe oben
...
siehe auch, was die NeXT-Pioniere Dtl's heute so machen (DART, STAR,
INTERSHOP...)
Mit freundlichen Gruessen
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Bertram Smolny Fon: ++49 3641/64-3750
MPI f. Biogeochemie Fax: ++49 3641/64-3710
Tatzendpromenade 1a, 07745 Jena e-mail: bsmolny@bgc-jena.mpg.de
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
From: Wolfgang Pohl <Wolfgang.Pohl@gmd.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: 03 Aug 1998 11:02:03 +0200
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Sender: pohl@labour
Message-ID: <6dhfzuwi9g.fsf@zeus.gmd.de>
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Hallo,
theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) writes:
> [Mac OS X]
> > Leider bleibt dabei die Remote-Screen-Fähigkeit erstmal auf der Strecke,
> > ...
> Ein Chross-Plattform Ersatz wird zur Einführung zur Verfügung stehen
> (zumindest der Client).
>
> Heißt VNC:
ich habe mir die Beschreibung von VNC auf dem Netz mal kurz
angesehen. Wenn ich das richtig verstanden habe, kann man damit
ueber's Netz mit einem Rechner so arbeiten, als wenn man davor
saesse. Das heisst aber, dass auf der Konsole des Rechners und auf
dem entfernten Bildschirm das Gleiche passiert. Es wurde auch damit
geworben, dass sich zwei Benutzer so Screen-Sharing machen koennen.
Zielgruppe sollen wohl Besitzer eines PCs sein, die an diesem PC auch
ueber's Netz arbeiten wollen. Das ist etwas ganz anderes als bei X
Windows, wo ich Programme auf Rechner A laufen lassen, aber *nur* auf
Rechner B anzeigen lassen kann. Was auf der Konsole von A abgeht,
damit habe ich nichts zu tun.
Jetzt weiss ich nicht, ob mit "Remote-Screen-Fähigkeit" ersteres oder
letzteres Verhalten gemeint war. Ich jedenfalls wuerde mir unter
MacOS X mit UNIX-Kern schon wuenschen, dass ich mit auf UNIX-Systemen
laufende Sachen per X server auf dem Mac interagieren kann. Und zwar
als built-in feature, und nicht mit Loesungen wie eXodus etc., die mir
nicht so gut gefallen. Noch besser ist, wenn dieses Prinzip dann auch
auf die Nutzung fremder Macs uebertragen werden kann (Mac-Software auf
fremdem Mac laufen lassen, aber auf eigenem Mac damit interagieren).
Ein ideales Szenario fuer den Einsatz von iMacs und einem oder
mehreren dicken server-Macs.
Gruss
Wolfgang
--
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Human-Computer Interaction Research Dept., D-53754 St. Augustin, Germany
Phone +49 2241 14 2078 FAX +49 2241 14 2065 E-mail Wolfgang.Pohl@gmd.de
http://zeus.gmd.de/hci/pages/wolfgang.pohl.html
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Date: 3 Aug 1998 07:58:09 GMT
Organization: Univerity Essen, Germany
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Michael Schuerig (schuerig@acm.org) wrote:
: Dieter Fiebelkorn <dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de> wrote:
:
: > > Wie bei den "Apple University ... Days" zu hören war wird Rhapsody/PPC
: > > alias MacOS X Server nicht mit DPS kommen. Adobe hat die Weiterentw. von
: >
: > Selbstkorrektur: MacOS X kommt ohne DPS. MacOS X Server ist ja nur das
: > umbenannte Rhapsody, deren DR2 ja immerhin DPS enthält. Aber ist es
: > sicher das das Final Release von Rhapsody (MacOS X Server) DPS enthalten
: > wird? Wahrscheinlich schon ...
:
: Nein, wahrscheinlich nicht. Geplant ist ein erweitertest Quickdraw. Aber
: Apple hat ja noch ein Jahr Zeit, um es sich anders zu überlegen.
Mit an Sicherheit grenzender Wahrscheinlichkeit doch, denn man soll ja
'OPENSTEP-Bildschirme' noch im- und exportieren koennen.
Also Rhapsody (MacOS X Server) mit DPS (last chance) und MacOS X ohne!
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
--
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Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: 3 Aug 1998 08:08:22 GMT
Organization: Univerity Essen, Germany
Message-ID: <6q3r5m$fi415@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6q1vgv$33u$1@nexus.oic.de> <Ex2oK1.Gn@heller.altoetting-online.de>
heller@altoetting-online.de wrote:
: Ah, jetzt verstehe ich!
: Ich dachte, Mac OS X/Server sei ein NEUES Produkt, das nach Rhapsody CR1
: kommen soll und hatte schon gehofft, darin ein Ueberleben von alter
: NeXT-Technologie zu sehen. Aber da ja die Aussage war (ist?), dass nach
: Rhapsody CR1 Schluss mit Rhapsody ist, wird wohl auch Mac OS X/Server nicht
: mehr weiterentwickelt werden, oder sehe ich das jetzt wieder falsch?
Das ist die bisher von Apple verbreitete Aussage! Im c't (15/98) Interview
mit Apples (sich immer etwas merkwuerdig ausdrueckenden, so dass man nicht
weiss ob es Unwissenheit, Ungeschicklichkeit oder tiefe Einsicht ist) Herrn
Bereskin war von Releases (Plural!) von Rhapsody die Rede, obwohl der von
Apple jetzt offiziell vergeben und so gemochte Name MacOS X Server dort
schon benutzt wurde.
:
: Kurzum, was mich interessiert ist:
: wird es nach Rhapsody CR1 noch ein Weiterleben der NeXT Technologie (DPS,
: NXHosting, etc., nur eben Mac look&feel, arrrgh) bei Apple geben?
S.O. Niemand weiss etwas (ausser evtl. innerhalb von Apple und die sagen
nichts oder Belangloses). Wahrscheinlich ist: Kein DPS, kein NXHosting oder
von Apple mit dem System gelieferte Moeglichkeit der Display-Exports, da
diese 'Experten' ja sogar das Client/Server-Modell ausgebaut haben -
wahrscheinlich, damit die Spiele einen Tick schneller laufen -, kein
NeXT look&feel, allenfalls als 'Theme', aber das ist in 'CR1' noch nicht
integriert, und keine Version fuer Intel CPUs mehr danach.
Diese ... (jeder setze hier ein, was er sich fuer diese 'Intelligenzbolzen'
ausdenken mag).
Sorry,
Schlimmeres als Apple konnte NeXT also kaum passieren.
Ruediger Oberhage
--
H.-R. Oberhage
Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: mike@inis.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OpenStep 4.2 installieren mit 2 SCSI HDs und ATAPI CD-ROM
Date: 3 Aug 98 10:49:11 GMT
Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie
Message-ID: <35c595a7.0@m3-hh-alpha.03.net>
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habe probleme openstep 4.2 auf folgendem system zu installieren:
486 dx4 100 mit adaptec 1542b, zwei 200er scsi-platten (typ weiss ich jetzt
leider nicht) und einem atapi cdrom.
das board hat primary/secondary eide welchen ich als treiber fuers cdrom auch
ausgewaehlt habe. als treiber fuer die platten hab ich logischerweise den
adaptec 1542x gewaehlt.
die platten (id 0 und 1) werden bei der installation korrekt erkannt aber
danach will das installprogramm openstep auf das atapi-laufwerk installieren,
was logischerweise nicht funktioniert.
ich hab das cdrom schon als master und als slave an beiden ports ausprobiert,
hat aber nichts genuetzt. vielleicht kann mir ja jemand helfen.
thanks, mike
From: rusmufti@helpdesk.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.unix.discussion,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT/Openstep Einfuehrung usw gesucht
Date: 3 Aug 1998 10:50:28 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <6q44lk$l2d$1@infosun2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <35C1F021.1685C269@systembureau.com> <87u33x52ak.fsf@localhost.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <6pujkq$fvn$1@valiant.koehntopp.de>
> Ein
>Nextstep-GUI-Builder kann also auch vom Anwender selbst
>erstellte oder gekaufte Klassen nachladen und sie wie eingebaute
>Systemklassen verarbeiten (genaugenommen gibt es gar keine
>eingebauten Systemklassen). Dieses Nachladen ist dabei
>Typsicher, weil durch die Introspektionsmoeglichkeiten vor der
>Verwendung der neu geladenen Klassen ihre Konformitaet zur API
>geprueft werden kann.
#ifdef mein_senf_dazu
Wer macht das schon ?
Das Wort "kann" stoesst mir hier im Zusammenhang mit dem Wort "typsicher" ziemlich
auf ...
Ausserdem kann der Ueberpruefungscode auch ziemlich falsch sein, wenn man
den selber schreiben muss.
Und zum dritten ist das eine Ueberpruefung zur Laufzeit und nicht zu Compilierzeit.
Da kann es schon zu spaet sein...
#endif
so long
MUFTI
--
Dann Presse <treten Sie ein>
(aus einem Softwarehandbuch)
From: "Kristian =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6hntopp?=" <kk@shonline.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.unix.discussion,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT/Openstep Einfuehrung usw gesucht
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 14:30:39 +0200
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Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI wrote:
>> [ GUI-Klassen selber definieren ]
> #ifdef mein_senf_dazu
> Wer macht das schon ?
Ähm, so ziemlich jeder, der einen Dialog mehrfach verwenden will. Er
erzeugt eine GUI-Klasse für diesen Dialog und einen zugehörigen
Konfigurationsdialog (kann auch der Nulldialog sein). Das Resultat ist
eine Klasse, die vom GUI-Builder geladen werden kann und die ein
Aggregat von Standardklassen ist, das als Highlevel-Building-Block
wiederverwendet werden kann. Das ist eine Technik, die dem VLSI-Design
abgeschaut ist und die mit den in ObjC zur Verfügung stehenden Methoden
leicht auch in Software nachgebildet werden kann.
Davon mal abgesehen geht natürlich auch immer die vollige Neuentwicklung
von GUI-Klassen durch Dritte. Dann möchte man auf jeden Fall in seinem
eigenen GUI-Builder die Möglichkeit haben, solche zugekauften Klassen
wie die Klassen von Next selbst zu handhaben. Das ist schließlich
dieselbe Grundidee, die auch OCXe in Visual Basic so nett macht.
> Ausserdem kann der Ueberpruefungscode auch ziemlich falsch
> sein, wenn man den selber schreiben muss.
Der Überprüfungscode ist generisch. Du und auch die Drittfirma muß ihn
nicht schreiben. Beim Laden einer Klasse kann das Laufzeitsystem von
ObjC testen, ob eine Klasse einem bestimmten Protokoll entspricht. Beim
Schreiben der Klasse muß diese Klasse das Protokoll formal adoptieren
und der Compiler überprüft, ob die Klasse dem Protokoll entspricht und
vermerkt das entsprechend in der Klasse.
> Und zum dritten ist das eine Ueberpruefung zur Laufzeit und
> nicht zu Compilierzeit.
Ja. Es ist ja auch eine Erweiterung des GUI-Builders zur Laufzeit und
nicht zur Compilezeit. Das laufende Programm (GUI-Builder wie auch
Anwendung) ist hinterher auch aus Binaries von zig Herstellern
zusammengesetzt und seine endgültige Konfiguration steht auch erst zur
Laufzeit fest und ändert sich auch laufend (immer dann, wenn eine
weitere Klasse zum laufenden System dazugezogen wird).
> Da kann es schon zu spaet sein...
Es ist der früheste mögliche Zeitpunkt.
Kristian
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From: max@didi.westend.com (Markus Schmidinger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.unix.discussion,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT/Openstep Einfuehrung usw gesucht
Date: 3 Aug 1998 14:16:07 +0200
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Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI schrieb:
>Ausserdem kann der Ueberpruefungscode auch ziemlich falsch sein, wenn man
>den selber schreiben muss.
Nicht wenn man Protokolle verwendet, denn deren
>Und zum dritten ist das eine Ueberpruefung zur Laufzeit und nicht zu Compilierzeit.
>Da kann es schon zu spaet sein...
Einhaltung wird schon zur Compile-Time ueberprueft:
@protocol Deviceaction
-open;
-close;
-reset;
@end
@interface BlockDevice: Device <Deviceaction>
@end
id aDevice = [BlockDevice new];
id <Stringaction> aString = aDevice;
Die letzte Zeile fuehrt enebso zu einer Fehlermeldung des
Kompilers, wie die fehlende Implementation einer der im
Protokoll vorgeschriebenen Methoden.
Max
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Wolfgang Pohl <Wolfgang.Pohl@gmd.de> wrote:
> ..., wo ich Programme auf Rechner A laufen lassen, aber *nur* auf
> Rechner B anzeigen lassen kann. Was auf der Konsole von A abgeht,
> damit habe ich nichts zu tun.
> Jetzt weiss ich nicht, ob mit "Remote-Screen-Fähigkeit" ersteres oder
> letzteres Verhalten gemeint war. Ich jedenfalls wuerde mir unter
Ich verstehe unter Remote-Screen das Verfahren, wo die Darstellung einer
Applikation von der Ausführung der Applikation getrennt sein kann. Will
heißen ich lasse meine Programme auf einem fernen Rechner "remote"
laufen und bekomme die Anzeige auf meinem Bildschirm.
Meiner Meinung nach einer der Stärken von X-Windows und wenn ich es
korrekt verstanden habe DPS. Es wäre schade und IMHO fatal, wenn es weg
fallen sollte. (M$ wollte dort sparen, mußte aber einsehen das es für
ein Serversystem einfach fehlt, derzeit macht das Produkt "WinCenter"
furore. Ein NT Server und von mehreren X-Terminals eine graphische
W-Oberfläche (*graus* *schüttel*) )
Die andere Variante ist ganz nett für "remote"-Support oder die
Konfiguration von Systemen, die kein Remote-Screen können, aber nur die
graphische Konfiguration zulassen (MacOS, W95/98, NT). Alternativ muß
man hinfahren und die Einstellungen vor Ort machen oder einen DAU
anleiten.
Ciao
Dieter
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From: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: 4 Aug 1998 07:26:57 GMT
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In article <6q3qih$fi413@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> phy070@spo109 (H.-R.
Oberhage) writes:
> Also Rhapsody (MacOS X Server) mit DPS (last chance) und MacOS X ohne!
Jetzt bin ich endgueltig verwirrt. Ich dachte immer, wenn man eine Mac
Applikation haette, die nur die OpenStep calls benutzt (kein Carbon Mac
Zeug), dass dann ein blosses Recompilieren daraus eine YellowBoxForNT
Applikation macht.
Welche Graphik benutzt dann YellowBoxForNT? Die gleiche wie MacOS X Server
fuer NT? Die gleiche wie Mac OS X ?
Gerriet.
From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
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Hallo Gerrit!
Gerriet M. Denkmann <gerriet@hazel.north.de> wrote:
> Jetzt bin ich endgueltig verwirrt. Ich dachte immer, wenn man eine Mac
> Applikation haette, die nur die OpenStep calls benutzt (kein Carbon Mac
> Zeug), dass dann ein blosses Recompilieren daraus eine YellowBoxForNT
> Applikation macht.
> Welche Graphik benutzt dann YellowBoxForNT? Die gleiche wie MacOS X Server
> fuer NT? Die gleiche wie Mac OS X ?
Es werden nur einige wenige (m.W. zwei) API calls entfernt mit denen man
direkt PS-Code ausführen konnte. Die Aufrufe für die "normalen"
Grafik-Primitive bleiben erhalten und werden lediglich ohne DPS neu
implementiert. Genauso auf Windows. Sollte IMHO auch die
Windows-Resourcen schonen, wenn kein DPS-Server mehr gestartet werden
muß.
Im Übrigen ist einer der wichtigsten Gründe für den Wegfall von DPS, daß
niemand herausfinden konnte, die man DPS mit Grafik-Beschleunigung
vereint. Ich finde die Entscheidung daher eher weise...
Keine Arbeit für die meisten App-Entwickler beim Umstieg also...
Gruß
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Atarianer (Wie OpenStep Entwicklung)
Date: 4 Aug 1998 10:28:28 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn) wrote:
>Moin,
> [...]
>
>P.S.: Gibt es hier noch andere "alter" Atarianer?
ich habe einen ImageFilter service fuer atari gem .img rumliegen und einen
.rsc file viewer
allgemein finde ich atari heute aber eher unattraktiv (und mir sind alle
SM124 abgeraucht).
viele gruesse von daniel
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
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Date: 4 Aug 1998 10:14:57 GMT
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Dirk Theisen (theisen@akaMail.com) wrote:
: Hallo Gerrit!
:
: Gerriet M. Denkmann <gerriet@hazel.north.de> wrote:
: > Jetzt bin ich endgueltig verwirrt. Ich dachte immer, wenn man eine Mac
: > Applikation haette, die nur die OpenStep calls benutzt (kein Carbon Mac
: > Zeug), dass dann ein blosses Recompilieren daraus eine YellowBoxForNT
: > Applikation macht.
: > Welche Graphik benutzt dann YellowBoxForNT? Die gleiche wie MacOS X Server
: > fuer NT? Die gleiche wie Mac OS X ?
:
: Es werden nur einige wenige (m.W. zwei) API calls entfernt mit denen man
: direkt PS-Code ausführen konnte. Die Aufrufe für die "normalen"
: Grafik-Primitive bleiben erhalten und werden lediglich ohne DPS neu
: implementiert. Genauso auf Windows. Sollte IMHO auch die
: Windows-Resourcen schonen, wenn kein DPS-Server mehr gestartet werden
: muß.
Oh Leute, bitte! Immer diese Entschuldigungen fuer Apple. "Tatsache"
(soweit man das aus der Geruechtekueche von Apple ueberhaupt sagen
kann) ist:
Kein(!) Client/Server Modell fuer MacOS X (nicht(!) fuer MacOS X
Server, das noch DPS basierend sein wird!). Damit kein 'generischer'
graphischer Remote-Access, sondern sogenannte 'third party opportunities',
sprich kostet Geld, ist mit an Sicherheit grenzender Wahrscheinlichkeit
uneinhetlich gemacht, jeder backt seine eigenen Broetchen.
Kein NX/NShosting, soll heissen, kein Kommandozeilen-Schalter oder
Environment Variable, die das Display ((nur) der Applikation) 'umleitet'!
Nicht einmal ein netzwerkfaehiges (nicht-proprietaeres) 'Nur'-Protokoll,
wie es X11 darstellt (ohne die ganze Maechtigkeit einer Programmiersprache
wie PS), wahrscheinlich existiert gar keines, nicht einmal ein proprietaeres.
Aus 'Sicherheitsgruenden' kein DPS, dabei haette es nur eines Authentifi-
zierungsmechanismus' bedurft und ggf. der Moeglichkeit, gewisse PS-
Kommandos 'remote' zu verbieten (wie heute mit der 'gesicherten EPS-
Anzeige' schon)!
Fragt mal unseren faehigen Frank Siegerts nach den Gefahren aber auch
Moeglichkeiten eines DPS-Window-Servers und ob und wie man die Gefahren
(optional!) unschaedlich machen kann.
Nahezu alles ist besser als ein Client/Server Modell 'aus dem Fenster'
zu kippen, wie es Apple tut. Und nun nicht wieder das Argument mit
Lizenzkosten, das haette Display Ghostscript (DGS) beseitigen koennen -
Apple war/ist selbst 'Mitinhaber und -entwickler' von DPS;
und auch nicht das Argument der Abhaengigkeit: Apple begibt sich mit
dem PDF-Support den es von Adobe benoetigt wieder in die gleiche
Abhaengigkeit von der gleichen Firma.
Was stimmt/stimmen soll ist: Die OpenStep/YB Aufrufe werden ueber einen
oo-Mechnismus ausgefuehrt, auch/gerade das Anzeigen (Display); daher
kann man bei YB zwischen den Architekturen durch einfache (Neu-)Kompi-
lation waehlen. Das bleibt auch - soll es jedenfalls.
Nichtsdestotrotz: Keine 'Anzeigenumleitung' (anders als VCN oder so).
:
: Im Übrigen ist einer der wichtigsten Gründe für den Wegfall von DPS, daß
: niemand herausfinden konnte, die man DPS mit Grafik-Beschleunigung
: vereint. Ich finde die Entscheidung daher eher weise...
Das ist schon OPENSTEP fuer X11 mit dem Konzept des Interceptors
angegangen. 2D war sowieso keine Frage und fuer 3D stehen neben dem
Direktdurchgriff ueber 'einen Interceptor' Tuningmoeglichkeiten ueber
high- (Renderman etc.) und low-level (GL etc.) Ebenen zur Verfuegung.
Apple kann sich ja bisher nicht einmal zu GL offiziell durchringen.
Das hat alles mit Weisheit wenig zu tun. Vielleicht mit Geschaeft.
:
: Keine Arbeit für die meisten App-Entwickler beim Umstieg also...
Das ist richtig, aber 'jede Menge Verlust' fuer die Anwender, zumindest
die gewisser Sparten, die Apple laut eigener Erklaerung erreichen
wollte. Aber was kuemmert die ihr Geschwaetz vom letzten Jahr.
Jedes Jahr bringt ein neues Glueck, andere Richtlinien, einen anderen
Fokus und 'ganz neue Erkenntnisse'. Wer will sich bei dieser Firmen-
politik auf Apple (neu) einlassen, wenn er nicht durch seine Vorge-
schichte an Apple gebunden oder darauf festgelegt ist?
Darauf wie sie nach bisherigen Statements die OPENSTEP-Benutzer,
insbesondere der Intel Plattform oder erst gar mit NeXT-Maschinen
behandeln, ich empfinde es als verschaukeln, moechte ich an dieser
Stelle erst gar nicht weiter eingehen.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: laire@basis.owl.de (Ralph Schmidt)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NextStep 3.3 und Asus BX Board
Date: 4 Aug 1998 11:55:19 GMT
Organization: uni-paderborn.de
Message-ID: <6q6sr7$lln$1@news.uni-paderborn.de>
Hat hier schon mal jemand Nextstep 3.3 auf einem P2-350Mhz BX Board
installiert ?
Wenn man das SCSI Treiber Problem jetzt mal ignoriert, haengt er bei
mir nach der Ausgabe von PCI0.
Regards
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
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Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: 4 Aug 1998 15:08:50 GMT
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In de.comp.sys.next H.-R. Oberhage <phy070@spo109> wrote:
: Oh Leute, bitte! Immer diese Entschuldigungen fuer Apple. "Tatsache"
: (soweit man das aus der Geruechtekueche von Apple ueberhaupt sagen
: kann) ist:
: Kein(!) Client/Server Modell fuer MacOS X (nicht(!) fuer MacOS X
: Server, das noch DPS basierend sein wird!). Damit kein 'generischer'
: graphischer Remote-Access, sondern sogenannte 'third party opportunities',
: sprich kostet Geld, ist mit an Sicherheit grenzender Wahrscheinlichkeit
: uneinhetlich gemacht, jeder backt seine eigenen Broetchen.
Das ist sehr schlecht. Wie es rauskommen wird, ist aber noch nicht gesagt.
Besser als jetzt wird es aber wohl nicht werden.
[...]
: Nahezu alles ist besser als ein Client/Server Modell 'aus dem Fenster'
: zu kippen, wie es Apple tut. Und nun nicht wieder das Argument mit
: Lizenzkosten, das haette Display Ghostscript (DGS) beseitigen koennen -
Laut Aussage von Mike Paquette auf der WWDC ist das so nicht richtig.
Es sei angeblich nicht moeglich, ein DPS-System zu kaufen. Lizenzierung
ist die einzige Moeglichkeit. Mike habe sich 6 verschiedene Systeme
angesehen. DGS ist fuer kommerzielle Nutzung keineswegs frei verfuegbar.
: Apple war/ist selbst 'Mitinhaber und -entwickler' von DPS;
: und auch nicht das Argument der Abhaengigkeit: Apple begibt sich mit
: dem PDF-Support den es von Adobe benoetigt wieder in die gleiche
: Abhaengigkeit von der gleichen Firma.
[...]
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From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Mac OS X Strategie
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 18:15:23 +0200
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Hallo Rüdiger!
> Oh Leute, bitte! Immer diese Entschuldigungen fuer Apple. "Tatsache"
> (soweit man das aus der Geruechtekueche von Apple ueberhaupt sagen
> kann) ist:
Hmmm, ich hatte nicht die Absicht, Apple zu entschuldigen.
> Kein(!) Client/Server Modell fuer MacOS X (nicht(!) fuer MacOS X
> Server, das noch DPS basierend sein wird!). Damit kein 'generischer'
> graphischer Remote-Access, sondern sogenannte 'third party opportunities',
> sprich kostet Geld, ist mit an Sicherheit grenzender Wahrscheinlichkeit
> uneinhetlich gemacht, jeder backt seine eigenen Broetchen.
Also VNC kostet kein Geld und ist absolut offen und frei. Jeder kann
neue Komressionsverfahren und Server schreiben.
Apple hat versprochen die Entsprechenden Haken :-) zur Verfügung zu
stellen.
Insbesondere wäre es möglich für jede Remote-Applikation eine eigene
Server-Verbindung aufzubauen und nur die eine Applikation in einem
rahmenlosen Fenster kompletter Bildschirmgröße laufen zu lassen, wobei
der Fenster-Hintergrund transparent bleibt.
Damit hat man dann quasi das, was Du willst, bis auf ein Mac-mäßiges
Fenster-Layering.
> Kein NX/NShosting, soll heissen, kein Kommandozeilen-Schalter oder
> Environment Variable,
Bleib mit fort mit dem Scheiß. :-)
Krieg' ich unter X auch nie auf Anhieb richtig hin. :-(
> Aus 'Sicherheitsgruenden' kein DPS, dabei haette es nur eines Authentifi-
> zierungsmechanismus' bedurft und ggf. der Moeglichkeit, gewisse PS-
> Kommandos 'remote' zu verbieten (wie heute mit der 'gesicherten EPS-
> Anzeige' schon)!
Von Sicherheitsgründen habe ICH nicht gesprochen und auch nichts in den
WWDC-Sessions gehört. Daher
[skipped]
> : Im Übrigen ist einer der wichtigsten Gründe für den Wegfall von DPS, daß
> : niemand herausfinden konnte, die man DPS mit Grafik-Beschleunigung
> : vereint. Ich finde die Entscheidung daher eher weise...
>
> Das ist schon OPENSTEP fuer X11 mit dem Konzept des Interceptors
> angegangen. 2D war sowieso keine Frage und fuer 3D stehen neben dem
> Direktdurchgriff ueber 'einen Interceptor' Tuningmoeglichkeiten ueber
> high- (Renderman etc.) und low-level (GL etc.) Ebenen zur Verfuegung.
Womit Du 2D- und 3D-Applikationen vom Remote-Hosting ausnimmst, oder?
Im übrigen möchte ich meinen Grafikprozessor in meiner TwinTurbo in
ALLEN Applikationen benutzt sehen, nicht nur in speziell optimierten,
was den Programmierern auch mal wieder mehr Arbeit macht.
> Apple kann sich ja bisher nicht einmal zu GL offiziell durchringen.
Das ist allerdings eine Schande. Naja, mal sehen ob das Gespräch mit J.
Caramack (oder wie der Quake-Junge heißt) was bringt.
> Das hat alles mit Weisheit wenig zu tun. Vielleicht mit Geschaeft.
Das wäre ja mal 'was neues für Apple und würde ich auch sehr begrüßen...
:-)
> : Keine Arbeit für die meisten App-Entwickler beim Umstieg also...
> Das ist richtig, aber 'jede Menge Verlust' fuer die Anwender, zumindest
> die gewisser Sparten, die Apple laut eigener Erklaerung erreichen
> wollte. Aber was kuemmert die ihr Geschwaetz vom letzten Jahr.
VNC bspw. kann bis zur Einführung von Mac OS X (Ende '99) auch auf
OpenSTEP laufen. Damit kannst Du dann weiterhin Deine teuren NS 3.x Apps
mit nur einer Lizenz remote starten. ;-)
> Jedes Jahr bringt ein neues Glueck, andere Richtlinien, einen anderen
> Fokus und 'ganz neue Erkenntnisse'. Wer will sich bei dieser Firmen-
> politik auf Apple (neu) einlassen, wenn er nicht durch seine Vorge-
> schichte an Apple gebunden oder darauf festgelegt ist?
Ja. Problem. Wir wollen hoffen, daß Apple diese Strategie nun auch mal
durchzieht. Aber wer weiß, was der "permanent CEO" dann wieder alles
anrichtet...
> Darauf wie sie nach bisherigen Statements die OPENSTEP-Benutzer,
> insbesondere der Intel Plattform oder erst gar mit NeXT-Maschinen
> behandeln, ich empfinde es als verschaukeln, moechte ich an dieser
> Stelle erst gar nicht weiter eingehen.
Ich gebe zu, daß die NS-Leute sich umstellen müssen und die
Intel-Entscheidung kann ich wirklich nicht verstehen.
Aber auch die Mac-Leute mit alten Kisten stehen im Regen und sind somit
nicht viel besser dran. Selbst mein 7600 soll angeblich kein Mac OS X
unterstützen. Wenn das wahr wird, bin ich ehrlich sauer, denn das ist
keine lahme, alte Krücke mit 68K-Chip und Rhapsody läuft darauf bereits.
BTW: Ich unterstützte überigens vollstens den Vorschlag von Don
Yackman(?) "Free Mach OS" (siehe link auf www.macintouch.com und
andere).
Ansonsten: Setz' Deine Energie und Deine Erfahrung mit OpenStep, die Du
uns Mac'lern voraus hast doch sinnvoll ein und schreib' einen VNC-Server
für OpenStep, der gleichzeitig DPS-Client der lokalen (Server-) Maschine
ist. Eine Art DPS-VNC Gateway sozusagen. IMHO ein schönes Projekt. Die
Gemeinde wird es Dir danken.
Ich habe auch schon ein neues Protokoll für VNC vorgeschlagen, daß
zwischen zwei OpenStep-Kisten laufen kann, daß statt der "dummen"
Default-Kompression als Protokoll die PS-Grafikprimitive (die ja
weiterhin unterstützt werden) benutzt.
Damit hätte man eine effiziente Übertragung zwischen OpenStep (und
Nachfolgern) und trotzdem Kompatibilität zum Rest der Welt (via den
obligatorischen Default-Protokollen). Aber das ist Schwärmerei... :-)
"'nuff said". :-)
Gruß
Dirk
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 20:11:25 -0700
From: Christian Metzger <100434.2720@compuserve.com>
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Hallo,
ich habe schon einmal gefragt, dai ch mit Sybase für NeXT 4.02 Probleme
habe. Esscheint als würde der buildmaster nicht mehr richtig tun. Ich
habe leider keine Disketten dafür, so daß eine Neuinstallation nicht
in Frage kommt.
Zwei Fragen:
1. Kann mir jemand eine Kopie von dem Programm (Version 4.02) besorgen?
2. Hat jemand vielleicht eine Version ( > 4,02) zu verkaufen für einen
vernünftigen Preis?
Ich brauche das nur für private Zwecke und will nicht Hunderte von Mark
ausgeben.
Vielen Dank für jede Hilfe!!
Christian
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Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 22:56:59 +0200
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Michael Schuerig <schuerig@acm.org> wrote:
> > Selbstkorrektur: MacOS X kommt ohne DPS. MacOS X Server ist ja nur das
> > umbenannte Rhapsody, deren DR2 ja immerhin DPS enthält. Aber ist es
> > sicher das das Final Release von Rhapsody (MacOS X Server) DPS enthalten
> > wird? Wahrscheinlich schon ...
>
> Nein, wahrscheinlich nicht. Geplant ist ein erweitertest Quickdraw. Aber
> Apple hat ja noch ein Jahr Zeit, um es sich anders zu überlegen.
Ich denke, das Ding, was diesen Herbst präsentiert werden soll, heißt
bereits Mac OS X Server.
Ich glaube übrigens nicht, daß das Fehlen von DPS ein großes Problem
sein wird. Es wird stattdessen wahrscheinlich QDGX (nicht zu verwechseln
mit dem heutigen QuickDraw) eingesetzt werden, das ja gerade entwickelt
wurde, um einen Ersatz für DPS zu schaffen, so daß PS-Dokumente 1:1 nach
QDGX konvertiert werden können. Einen Nachteil gibt es natürlich
trotzdem: alte Software muß womöglich neugeschrieben werden.
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From: joergk@s51.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
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Subject: Hardwareliste fuer OpenStep Intel?
Date: 4 Aug 1998 21:34:08 GMT
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Hallo,
ich moechte mir jetzt endlich einen langgehegten Wunsch erfuellen
und mir OpenStep zulegen. Vorher wuerde mich noch interessieren,
gibt es eine aktuelle Liste mit unterstuetzter Hardware und Treibern
fuer OpenStep4.2/Intel?
Joerg
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Subject: Re: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
Date: 4 Aug 1998 23:18:55 GMT
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In <6pt2eu$fmm$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> Darf ich uebrigens vorschlagen, diesen ganzen Programmiersprachen-
> schnickschnack sein zu lassen, Wissenschaftler in den USA haben vor
> kurzem festgestellt dass man mit einer dieser neuartigen "Touring"
> Maschinen alle maschinell berechenbaren Probleme loesen kann - und
> das mit einem ganz einfachen Befehlssatz, den jeder in nur wenigen
> Stunden erlernen kann. Und ist (angeblich) noch bunter als KDE und
> Windows95 - k00l!!
<KIDDING>
Alles Schotter... Quantencomputing ist die Zukunft, kein Bit, kein Byte, nur
Qbits mit Wahrscheinlichkeiten und alle Moeglichkeiten werden gleichzeitig
berechnet, solange man nicht hinguckt
-- hups, ich vergass BillyBoy hat das ja schon in sein Fensterl-System
eingebaut, man weiss ja nie wann was rauskommt oder wann es explodiert :-)
</KIDDING>
KDE ist IMHO ne nette Idee, aber mit der Kommerz QT-Lib und der
Windows-aehnlichen Oberflaeche (baehhh!) find ich sollte man nochmal drueber
nachdenken obs nicht besser geht.
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
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Date: 5 Aug 98 08:43:39 GMT
joergk@s51.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann) wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>ich moechte mir jetzt endlich einen langgehegten Wunsch erfuellen
>und mir OpenStep zulegen. Vorher wuerde mich noch interessieren,
>gibt es eine aktuelle Liste mit unterstuetzter Hardware und Treibern
>fuer OpenStep4.2/Intel?
Schau mal nach
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/Mirrors/NeXTanswers/Files/Compatibility_Guides/
ich weiss aber nicht wie aktuell die Systemkonf. sind.
Gruesse
Sven
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From: bsmolny@primera.bgc-jena.mpg.de (Bertram Smolny)
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Subject: Anbindung remotePrinter TCP/IP
Date: 5 Aug 1998 11:23:14 GMT
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wir haben einen Canon Kopierer mit Postscript -Rip zur Teststellung.
Wie kann ich den von OS4.2 aus ansprechen, wenn das RIP eine
eigene IP-Adresse und ein eigenes ppd-file hat.
Mit Schnittstelleneinstellung "Jetdirek"t funktioniert das nicht.
was muss da in /etc/printcap eingetragen werden und wie sagt man das der
Netinfo-DB ?
wo kann man was nachlesen ?
alle Hinweise sehr willkommen
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From: Helge Hess <helge@mdlink.de>
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Subject: Re: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 02:04:58 +0200
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Eberhard Wolff wrote:
>
> Man kann sowohl unter Gnome als unter KDE wegen CORBA im Prinzip
> jede Sprache benutzen. So wie ich das kapiert habe ist das
> technologisch eventuell toller als NeXTstep, weil Verteilung der
> Objekte im Netz und SprachunabhÙngigkeit kein Problem mehr sein sollte.
Naja, NeXTstep ist nicht sprachunabhaengig, aber die Verteilung der
Objekte im Netz sollte per PDO ja kein Problem sein. Eine Umgebung die
wirklich sprachunabhaengig ist, habe ich noch nicht gesehen. Auch wenn
CORBA prinzipiell von beliebigen Sprachen angesprochen werden kann,
folgen die Implementationen ja dann doch den Gegebenheiten der
entsprechenden Sprachen, ansonsten gilt der kleinste gemeinsame Nenner,
was die Sache auch nicht besser macht.
Ich glaube nicht, dass es praktikabel ist KDE von ObjC ueber CORBA aus
anzusprechen, da es sehr stark an C++ orientiert ist. Bei GNOME sieht es
etwas besser aus, dass kommt aber hauptsaechlich durch die Verwendung
des kleinsten gemeinsamen Nenners (sprich C).
> Damit hat man wirkliche Objekte auf seinem Rechner, die man von
> öberall her (jede Sprach und jeder Platz) verwenden kann.
Da die ganzen Sprachen verschiedene Objektmodelle haben wird das relativ
wenig helfen ... 'Wirkliche' Objekte gibt es eben nicht. Wie soll ein
C++ Programmierer seine Multiple-Inheritance in Objective-C abbilden ?
Das ganze laeuft immer auf entweder weglassen von Features oder
verkomplizieren fuer andere Sprachen hinaus.
> Wegen GNUstep: das kam einfach bei den Entwicklern offensichtlich
> nicht so gut an und dann hat keiner daran weitergearbeitet.
Naja, das ist ja wohl etwas stark uebertrieben. Der Foundation,
Datenbank und makefile Teil unter GNUstep ist sehr gut und wird auch
verwendet. Am kompletten GNUstep wird auch weiterhin entwickelt.
Was wohl bisher gescheitert ist, ist die Display Postscript Einbindung.
Die GNUstep Leute wollten halt seit je her eine PS Anbindung. So etwas
ist natuerlich deutlich schwieriger zu implementieren als ein einfaches
X11 Interface wie KDE und GNOME eines haben.
Ich denke die GNUstep Leute hatten einen zu hohen Anspruch. Ein
komplettes NeXTstep ist eben nicht in 2 Jahren Heimarbeit
nachprogrammiert.
> Auûerdem
> glaube ich nicht, daû es so schlimm ist, wenn die Leute unter Linux
> etwas anderes, vielleicht sogar besseres bauen. Solange das noch nicht
> da ist, bleibe ich auch erstmal bei NeXTstep und auch ich habe lange
> davon getrÙumt, auf einem freien, schnellen Unix und auf einem
> schnellen Rechner för umsonst ein NeXTstep Ùhnliches Umfeld zu
> haben. Aber jetzt denke ich, daû KDE vielleicht neue Möglichkeiten
> eröffnet. Lassen wir ihnen doch eine Chance.... Jedenfalls kann bei
> KDE niemand in seiner Göttlichkeit einfach das Projekt einstampfen so
> wie jetzt bei Rhapsody.
Benutzen wuerde ich KDE auch, zum Programmieren duerfte es zu krank sein
(C++).
Lieber waehre es mir aber, wenn gtk einen Schub bekommen wuerde, das es
erstens GPLed und zweitens C++ frei ist.
Gruss
Helge
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
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Date: 5 Aug 98 13:14:46 GMT
Das folgende ist absolut ohne Gewaehr!!
Zum TCP/IP-Problem, keine Ahnung wie das mit den ppd-files ist, keine Ahnung
ob es under OS 4.X genauso ist:
Drucken von unseren NS 3.3-Maschinen (intel, sparc) auf einen LaserWriter
ueber Jetdirect (als Beispiel, man achte auf die Namensgebung!):
- dem Drucker einen symb. Namen zuweisen (Hostmanager); z.B. "laserw"
- einrichten mit PrintManager (ganz normal), vielleicht kann man hier den
.ppd (nach /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes kopiert) einfach angeben; Name z.B.
"LaserWriter"
- NetinfoManager -> "/printers/LaserWriter" in der entspr. Domain oeffnen
- zusaetzliche Eintraege anlegen (ohne die " !):
Eigenschaft "_writers" mit Wert "*"
Eigenschaft "rm" mit Wert "laserw"
bei uns laeuft das ganze ziemlich zuverlaessig (und ohne die beiden Eintraege
eben ueberhaupt nicht!).
Gruesse
Sven
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From: Frank Zavelberg <zavelber@xmailer.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
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Subject: Re: S: NeXTStep für Intel
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 16:20:17 +0200
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jsreeb@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> Hallo!
>
> Ich bin auf der Suche nach NeXTStep für Intel ab Version 3.2 (User oder
> Developer). Wenn jemand eines zuviel hat oder einfach so eins loswerden will,
> soll er/sie sich doch bitte mal bei mir melden.
>
> Tchüßchen
>
> Jens Reeb
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Subject: Re: Boeses Dateisystem-Problem: fsck hilft nicht :-(
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 16:27:47 +0200
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To: Uli Zappe <uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
Uli Zappe wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> als ich heute den Computer anschaltete, habe ich eine böse Überraschung
> erlebt: beim Booten wurde das Dateisystem als "clean" eingestuft und fsck
> übersprungen, aber im weiteren Bootvorgang kamen sehr viele Fehlermeldungen
> des Inhalts:
>
> /: bad dir ino 53263 at offset 7516: mangeld entry
>
> und schließlich in Folge:
>
> pdservd: Could not create /dev/rpski14 - File exists
> pdservd: Could not create /dev/rpski15 - File exists
> tallowcross syslogd: cannot create /dev/log: Address already in use
>
> Daraufhin habe ich fsck manuell im Single-User-Modus laufen lassen und
> folgendes erhalten:
>
> % fsck -P
> /dev/rsd0a: DIRECTORY CORRUPTED I=53263 OWNER=root MODE=40755
> /dev/rsd0a: SIZE=9216 MTIME=Jul 26 15:27 1998
> /dev/rsd0a: DIR=/private/dev
>
> /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
> %
>
> Mein Problem ist natürlich, *daß* ich ja fsck manuell laufen lasse. Was nun,
> wenn fsck nix reparieren will?
>
> Ich habe mir /dev mal angeguckt und 6 fehlerhafte Einträge gefunden, bei
> denen entweder der Name oder der Inode oder beides ramponiert waren. Aber
> wenn ich versuche, die einfach zu löschen, kriege ich nur ein lapidares:
>
> rm: /dev/|skø=5 nonexistent
> rm: /dev/rpskø=4 nonexistent
> rm: /dev/rpski14 nonexistent
> rm: /dev/rpski15 nonexistent
> rm: /dev/rpski16 nonexistent
> rm: /dev/log nonexistent
>
> Was tun??? Soll ich einfach das ganze /dev-Verzeichnis löschen und neu
> aufbauen? (Aber wie? ditto von CD-ROM, MAKEDEV, oder was?) Selbst wenn das
> hier ginge, es muß doch eine allgemeinere Lösung geben für den Fall, daß man
> nicht gleich das ganze Verzeichnis löschen kann/will.
>
> Danke für jede Hilfe!
>
> Tschau
> Uli
> --
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>
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Mit ein bischen Glueck kann man
a) die Kiste ueber eine 2. Platte booten
b) die ramponierte Platte manuell ueber mount in Terminal.app
dranhaengen und somit
c) zumindest an die Daten kommen und das Ding wahrscheinst auch
als 2. Platte weiter missbrauchen...
Naja, ist kein alzu toller Tip, aber als ich den gleichen Mist hatte,
hat's wenigstens funktioniert.
Ciao, Stephan. (locher@cs.uni-bonn.de)
und so
From: Frank Zavelberg <zavelber@xmailer.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP fuer HP Hardware, woher?
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 16:35:46 +0200
Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany)
Message-ID: <35C86DC2.6DE461CF@xmailer.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
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To: armins@hrz1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de
Armin Schmidt wrote:
>
> Hallo NeXT Gemeinde,
>
> mal ganz bescheiden wollte ich fragen, wo man denn u.U. noch NEXSTEP
> fuer HP Rechner herbekommt?
>
> Wieder stellt sich mir die Frage, ob ich die regulaere NEXTSTEP 3.3
> zur Installation fuer ein solches System benutzen koennte, die auch
> fuer NeXT hardware verwendet wird?
> (Wovon ich nicht ausgehe, da ja auf der CD steht nur fuer NeXT oder
> Intel hardware..)
>
> Wuerde mich freuen, was von Euch dazu zu hoeren,
>
> Armin
Hi,
wenn man sich nicht vor den Schweizern scheut, wuerd ich's mal
bei www.uptime.ch ... News versuchen, da gibt es zumindest ABs,
aber ob man Studiosus oder so ist, interessiert glaub ich nur in
n+1. Linie..
Die Intel/NeXT-Variante User (CD) ist nur fuer die 2 brauchbar,
die Dv. soweit ich weiss fuer beide; dsgl. EOF x.y und Lighthouse
"Office" Software.
Ach ja.. evtl. bekoemmt man bei der Installation auf einer HP genau
dann Probleme, wenn man dafuer (nicht fuer spaeteren Betrieb) kein
orig. HP CD-ROM angeklemmt hat. Ferner gibt es mit einigen kleineren
Platten (insb. Quantum) evtl. Probleme.
IBM und Seagate sind ab insb. 1 GB unproblematisch.
Viel Glueck, Stephan (locher@cs.uni-bonn.de).
From: fen.vertrieb@t-online.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NextStep 3.3 und Asus BX Board
Date: 4 Aug 1998 12:21:07 GMT
Message-ID: <6q6ubj$8ji$1@news02.btx.dtag.de>
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laire@basis.owl.de (Ralph Schmidt) wrote:
> Hat hier schon mal jemand Nextstep 3.3 auf einem P2-350Mhz BX Board
> installiert ?
> Wenn man das SCSI Treiber Problem jetzt mal ignoriert, haengt er bei
> mir nach der Ausgabe von PCI0.
Habe es gerade auf einen Tyan BX-Board (S1836DLUAN) mit PII-350 installiert.
Geht prima.
- Karsten
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From: "Martin Spott" <Martin.Spott@uni-duisburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
Date: 5 Aug 1998 22:12:45 GMT
Organization: home
Message-ID: <6qalct$h2p$2@foehn.dirnet.com>
References: <87n29qp304.fsf@dialin164.zdv.uni-mainz.de>
Paul Seelig <pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de> wrote:
> Und der absolute Abschuss ist fuer mich, dass schon *weit* vor den
> allerersten Ansaetzen fuer ein KDE oder Gnome das GNUstep-Projekt
> ("http://www.gnustep.org/") bestand, das eine freie Implementierung
> der OpenStep-Spezifikation (NeXTstep-Nachfolge) zu realisieren
> trachtet. [...]
Genau fuer diese Sache habe ich einfach kein Verstaendnis.
Trotzdem kann ich mir gut vorstellen, dass damals die 'Zeit noch nicht reif'
war. KDE und Gnome werden von der derzeit heftigst aufflammenden Linux-
Euphorie getragen - uind zwar insofern, dass die linux-'Juenger' erstmals
realisieren, was fuer eine Kraft sie WinNT entgegensetzen koennen. Das war
zur zeit, als GNUstep in Angriff genommen wurde, noch nicht so.
> Das kotzt mich echt ziemlich an. :-(
So koennte ich das auch formulieren,
Martin.
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From: laire@basis.owl.de (Ralph Schmidt)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NextStep 3.3 und Asus BX Board
Date: 6 Aug 1998 00:02:43 GMT
Organization: uni-paderborn.de
Message-ID: <6qarr3$1kc$1@news.uni-paderborn.de>
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In-Reply-To: <6q6ubj$8ji$1@news02.btx.dtag.de>
On 08/04/98, fen.vertrieb@t-online.de wrote:
>laire@basis.owl.de (Ralph Schmidt) wrote:
>> Hat hier schon mal jemand Nextstep 3.3 auf einem P2-350Mhz BX Board
>> installiert ?
>> Wenn man das SCSI Treiber Problem jetzt mal ignoriert, haengt er
bei
>> mir nach der Ausgabe von PCI0.
>
>Habe es gerade auf einen Tyan BX-Board (S1836DLUAN) mit PII-350
installiert.
>Geht prima.
Es lag doch am SCSI. Genau danach haette er eingebunden werden
sollen. Mit meinem Symbios 825(leider ein PCI Slot verschwendet)
ging es dann aber erst nachdem die ID nicht mehr 8 war.
Irgendwie komisch, dass ein treiber fuer den 825 nicht >8 scanned.
Was ich auch sehr merkwuerdig finde ist sie screenmode liste
des Matrox Millenium 2 8MB Treibers. Kein 1280*1024 in 32 (oder 24bit)
>
>- Karsten
>--
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>
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Date: 5 Aug 1998 12:05:11 GMT
Organization: Univerity Essen, Germany
Message-ID: <6q9hpn$9qg5@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6of3bk$p6j$2@rznews.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> <6oftgd$gdf$1@gwdu19.gwdg.de> <1dd477u.12tovqwqgos8wN@rhrz-isdn3-p35.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <1dd4nbd.pjfq9b1849kn2N@port17.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de> <1dd5hvh.11d0s1f15qk0k6N@port22.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de> <1dd5jmh.i2h5op7sbz9cN@rhrz-isdn3-p14.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <1dd8tz1.1uzm77t85odhcN@nafp1-219.rz.uni-frankfurt.de>
Markus Gail (gail@gmx.de) wrote:
: Ich glaube übrigens nicht, daß das Fehlen von DPS ein großes Problem
: sein wird. Es wird stattdessen wahrscheinlich QDGX (nicht zu verwechseln
: mit dem heutigen QuickDraw) eingesetzt werden, das ja gerade entwickelt
: wurde, um einen Ersatz für DPS zu schaffen, so daß PS-Dokumente 1:1 nach
: QDGX konvertiert werden können. Einen Nachteil gibt es natürlich
: trotzdem: alte Software muß womöglich neugeschrieben werden.
Weiter: PS/EPS sind die Standards fuer Abbildungen in (naturwissen-
schaftlichen) Artikeln (TeX/LaTeX) und mehr. Und Tiff-Thumbnails sind
nun wirklich eine Vergewaltigung wie sie Redmond benoetigt fuer solche
Formate. Apple braucht's jetzt aber auch! Fortschritt?
Ruediger
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D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Date: 5 Aug 1998 12:11:16 GMT
Organization: Univerity Essen, Germany
Message-ID: <6q9i54$9qg8@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6of3bk$p6j$2@rznews.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> <6oftgd$gdf$1@gwdu19.gwdg.de> <1dd477u.12tovqwqgos8wN@rhrz-isdn3-p35.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <1dd4nbd.pjfq9b1849kn2N@port17.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de> <1dd5hvh.11d0s1f15qk0k6N@port22.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de> <1dd5jmh.i2h5op7sbz9cN@rhrz-isdn3-p14.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <6q3qih$fi413@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> <6q6d41$iav@hazel.north.de> <1dd8hyp.c4tguf1yqt29sN@rhrz-isdn3-p36.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <6q6mv1$im022@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Axel Habermann (kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de) wrote:
: Laut Aussage von Mike Paquette auf der WWDC ist das so nicht richtig.
: Es sei angeblich nicht moeglich, ein DPS-System zu kaufen. Lizenzierung
: ist die einzige Moeglichkeit. Mike habe sich 6 verschiedene Systeme
: angesehen. DGS ist fuer kommerzielle Nutzung keineswegs frei verfuegbar.
Das ist richtig, aber Apple haette es 'freikaufen' koennen; laut
Schreiben in der (damals noch) rhapsody-talk Liste stand eine Summe
von ca. US$500.000,-- im Raum. Ob's ganz wahr ist, kann ich nicht
sagen, aber nach Erfahrung mit anderen GhostScript-Erweiterungen (fuer
nur $10.000,--) halte ich das durchaus fuer moeglich. GhostScript ist
jedenfalls an keinerlei Adobe-Lizenzen gebunden. Lediglich um die Fonts
und deren Namen muss man sich 'kabbeln', aber das habe auch schon andere
(kommerzielle) PostScriptemulationen getan und geloest (Stichworte Swiss
und Helvectica).
Mit der jetzigen Politik ist Apple Adobe wieder genauso ausgeliefert
wie vorher, das kann's also nicht sein.
Gruss,
Ruediger
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Anbindung remotePrinter TCP/IP
Date: 6 Aug 1998 08:12:03 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / CC
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In article <6q9fb2$7k7$1@gwdu19.gwdg.de> bsmolny@primera.bgc-jena.mpg.de
(Bertram Smolny) writes:
> wir haben einen Canon Kopierer mit Postscript -Rip zur Teststellung.
>
> Wie kann ich den von OS4.2 aus ansprechen, wenn das RIP eine
> eigene IP-Adresse und ein eigenes ppd-file hat.
> Mit Schnittstelleneinstellung "Jetdirek"t funktioniert das nicht.
> was muss da in /etc/printcap eingetragen werden und wie sagt man das der
> Netinfo-DB ?
Das haengt auch davon ab, was der Drucker fuer Netzwerkprotokolle
spricht. Viele Drucker mit Ethernet Anschluss beherrschen
mittlerweile direkt das lpd-Protokoll. In soeinem Fall geht das
recht leicht:
Fuer printcap schreibt man eine kleine Datei (z.B. 'canon.pc') mit:
canontest: \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/canontest:rm=testip:rp=voelligegal:lp=: \
:ty=Canon Typ Name: \
:note=Teststellung Canon mit RIP:lo=lock: \
:_nxfinalform:
'canontest' ist dann der Name des Druckers im Printpanel, 'testip'
ist ein in NetInfo oder wo auch immer eingetragener hostname
mit der IP des Druckers (habe noch nie probiert dort direkt eine
IP-Nummer hinzuschreiben). 'voelligegal' ist genau das - ein
Dummy-Name. Im 'ty=' Feld muss der Name der PPD Datei stehen,
wobei Leerzeichen hier in der Printcap Unterstreichstrichen
im Dateinamen der PPD entsprechen. Der Suffix ".ppd" steht
in der printcap nicht. Die PPD Datei muss in
/LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/
stehen (zur Not auch im Pendant in /NextLibrary). Falls man
mit deutscher Oberflaeche arbeitet und die PPD deutsch ist
kann man sie auch in /<xxx>Library/PrinterTypes/German.lproj
ablegen. Das _nxfinalform sorgt dafuer, dass alle dem Drucker
nicht bekannten Fonts automatisch in die Jobs eingebettet werden.
Jetzt als root den printcap Eintrag nach NetInfo loaden:
niload printcap / < canon.pc
Danach sollte jede Applikation sofort (oder spaetestens nach
einem erneuten Aufruf) den Drucker im PrintPanel anbieten.
Viel Erfolg
Detlev
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
Date: 6 Aug 1998 10:42:15 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6qc1a7$9hq$2@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Aug 1998 10:42:15 GMT
frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert) wrote:
>[...]
>KDE ist IMHO ne nette Idee, aber mit der Kommerz QT-Lib und der
>Windows-aehnlichen Oberflaeche (baehhh!) find ich sollte man nochmal drueber
>nachdenken obs nicht besser geht.
>
die ist aber wenigstens besser als das, was apple zur zeit zusammengurgelt
(und uns reinwuergen wird). wenigstens kann man unter Win/KDE menues
abpfluecken und frei positionieren.
daniel
From: Paul Seelig <pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
Date: 06 Aug 1998 13:08:40 +0200
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany
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boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) writes:
> frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert) wrote:
> >[...]
> >KDE ist IMHO ne nette Idee, aber mit der Kommerz QT-Lib und der
> >Windows-aehnlichen Oberflaeche (baehhh!) find ich sollte man nochmal drueber
> >nachdenken obs nicht besser geht.
> >
>
> die ist aber wenigstens besser als das, was apple zur zeit zusammengurgelt
> (und uns reinwuergen wird). wenigstens kann man unter Win/KDE menues
> abpfluecken und frei positionieren.
>
Naja, die KDE-Implementierung von abreissbaren Menue*leisten* im
Gegensatz zu echten abreissbaren *Menues* (wie sie beispielsweise auch
Motif-Aplikationen bieten) lassen bezueglich ihres echten Nutzens doch
wohl sehr viel zu wuenschen uebrig. Ich halte abreissbare
Menueleisten im Gegensatz zu echten abreissbaren Menues sogar fuer
ziemlich sinn- und zwecklos. Nicht ohne Grund ist KDE in meinem
Ansehen ziemlich gesunken...
MfG, P. *8^)
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From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NextStep auf AGP Boards?
Date: 6 Aug 1998 11:15:46 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
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Kurze Frage:
unterstuetzt OpenStep 4.2 AGP Boards mit AGP-Grafikkarte(z.B. ATI Xpert@Work)?
Joerg
From: bsmolny@primera.bgc-jena.mpg.de (Bertram Smolny)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Anbindung remotePrinter TCP/IP
Date: 6 Aug 1998 11:16:07 GMT
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Distribution: world
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Cc: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de
I>
> Das haengt auch davon ab, was der Drucker fuer Netzwerkprotokolle
> spricht. Viele Drucker mit Ethernet Anschluss beherrschen
> mittlerweile direkt das lpd-Protokoll. In soeinem Fall geht das
> recht leicht:
>
> Fuer printcap schreibt man eine kleine Datei (z.B. 'canon.pc') mit:
>
> canontest: \
> :sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/canontest:rm=testip:rp=voelligegal:lp=: \
> :ty=Canon Typ Name: \
> :note=Teststellung Canon mit RIP:lo=lock: \
> :_nxfinalform:
>
> 'canontest' ist dann der Name des Druckers im Printpanel, 'testip'
> ist ein in NetInfo oder wo auch immer eingetragener hostname
> mit der IP des Druckers (habe noch nie probiert dort direkt eine
> IP-Nummer hinzuschreiben). 'voelligegal' ist genau das - ein
> Dummy-Name. Im 'ty=' Feld muss der Name der PPD Datei stehen,
> wobei Leerzeichen hier in der Printcap Unterstreichstrichen
> im Dateinamen der PPD entsprechen. Der Suffix ".ppd" steht
> in der printcap nicht. Die PPD Datei muss in
> /LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/
> stehen (zur Not auch im Pendant in /NextLibrary). Falls man
> mit deutscher Oberflaeche arbeitet und die PPD deutsch ist
> kann man sie auch in /<xxx>Library/PrinterTypes/German.lproj
> ablegen. Das _nxfinalform sorgt dafuer, dass alle dem Drucker
> nicht bekannten Fonts automatisch in die Jobs eingebettet werden.
>
> Jetzt als root den printcap Eintrag nach NetInfo loaden:
> niload printcap / < canon.pc
>
> Danach sollte jede Applikation sofort (oder spaetestens nach
> einem erneuten Aufruf) den Drucker im PrintPanel anbieten.
>
> Viel Erfolg
> Detlev
>
--
danke fuer die guten Hinweise, das hab ich auch so verstanden-
ich habe den Drucker in Netinfo eingebunden :
(tabelle NIDB)
Er erscheint auch im PrintMangager, nur die Druckjobs werden nicht
abgeliefert und ein Pruefen der Warteschlange ergibt in der Console die
Meldung:
connection to canon is down
connection to canon is down
Der Kopierer/Drucker haengt an einem WIN95-System (das die PS-Dateien RIPt)
und exportiert den Drucker wie dort ueblich ins Netz,
Wo kann man was nachlesen, wie man einen W95-Drucker von OS aus benutzt ?
Mit freundlichen Gruessen
Bertram.Smolny@bgc-jena.mpg.de
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From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NextStep auf AGP Boards?
Date: 6 Aug 1998 13:32:47 GMT
Organization: the secret circle of the NSRC
Message-ID: <6qcb9v$r4n$1@leonie.object-factory.com>
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Joerg Kollmann wrote:
> Kurze Frage:
> unterstuetzt OpenStep 4.2 AGP Boards mit AGP-Grafikkarte(z.B. ATI
Xpert@Work)?
Generell ja - aber nur weil eine Karte in den AGP Steckplatz paßt, heißt
das noch nicht, daß es auch funktioniert: man braucht immer noch einen
passenden Treiber. Von der Xpert@work weiß ich nicht, ob sie unterstützt
wird.
Das kann Dir aber NeXTanswers sagen (http://www.apple.com/enterprise/
irgendwo unter 'Support').
Holger
From: Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Anbindung remotePrinter TCP/IP
Date: 06 Aug 1998 15:51:27 +0200
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droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) writes:
> In article <6q9fb2$7k7$1@gwdu19.gwdg.de> bsmolny@primera.bgc-jena.mpg.de
> (Bertram Smolny) writes:
> > wir haben einen Canon Kopierer mit Postscript -Rip zur Teststellung.
> >
> > Wie kann ich den von OS4.2 aus ansprechen, wenn das RIP eine
> > eigene IP-Adresse und ein eigenes ppd-file hat.
[...]
> mittlerweile direkt das lpd-Protokoll. In soeinem Fall geht das
> recht leicht:
>
> Fuer printcap schreibt man eine kleine Datei (z.B. 'canon.pc') mit:
>
> canontest: \
> :sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/canontest:rm=testip:rp=voelligegal:lp=: \
------------------------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> :ty=Canon Typ Name: \
> :note=Teststellung Canon mit RIP:lo=lock: \
> :_nxfinalform:
---------^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> 'canontest' ist dann der Name des Druckers im Printpanel, 'testip'
> ist ein in NetInfo oder wo auch immer eingetragener hostname
> mit der IP des Druckers (habe noch nie probiert dort direkt eine
> IP-Nummer hinzuschreiben). 'voelligegal' ist genau das - ein
Nein, das ist oft nicht egal. Fuer HP-Drucker zum Beispiel gibt es
mehrere explizite Queues (`raw', `postscript' und `hpgl'?).
Unbedingt in der Dokumentation nachsehen.
[.ppd installieren]
> ablegen. Das _nxfinalform sorgt dafuer, dass alle dem Drucker
> nicht bekannten Fonts automatisch in die Jobs eingebettet werden.
>
> Jetzt als root den printcap Eintrag nach NetInfo loaden:
> niload printcap / < canon.pc
Die _nxfinalform Property ist entscheidend, damit die Aufbereitung des
PostScript funktioniert, nur eine Kleinigkeit: zumindest unter NS3.3
funktioniert niload m.W. so nicht, weil dann eine Netinfo Directory
(nicht Property) _nxfinalform eingerichtet wird (auch wenn nidump es
so ausgibt).
Im Zweifel also mit NetinfoManager korrigieren/einrichten.
Timm
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From: mike@inis.de
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Subject: Probleme mit sendmail
Date: 6 Aug 98 14:59:38 GMT
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Nach der Installation von sendmail (Version ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.5/8.8.5)
taucht beim versenden von mail folgendes Problem auf, falls man nicht
in der Gruppe wheel ist:
inis-13> mail -v frank
Subject: test
.
Cc:
Null message body; hope that's ok
cannot chdir(/usr/spool/mqueue): Permission denied
inis-13>
Dies Problem tritt jedoch nicht am netinfo-server auf.
Hat irgendjemand eine Idee?
From: szallies@energotec.de (Constantin Szallies)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Alte NS Applikationen für Openstep/NT
Date: 6 Aug 1998 15:26:09 GMT
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Halli Hallo
weiß jemand, ob es irgendeins dieser NeXTSTEP Applikationen für Openstep/NT
gibt?
Würde mich ja schwer wundern, aber Wunder geschehen ja schon manchmal.
- Concurrence
- Diagram
- Mesa
- OpenWrite
- Parasheet
???
Thanx
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Anbindung remotePrinter TCP/IP
Date: 6 Aug 1998 16:04:24 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Bertram Smolny <bsmolny@primera.bgc-jena.mpg.de> wrote:
: --
: danke fuer die guten Hinweise, das hab ich auch so verstanden-
: ich habe den Drucker in Netinfo eingebunden :
: (tabelle NIDB)
: Er erscheint auch im PrintMangager, nur die Druckjobs werden nicht
: abgeliefert und ein Pruefen der Warteschlange ergibt in der Console die
: Meldung:
: connection to canon is down
: connection to canon is down
: Der Kopierer/Drucker haengt an einem WIN95-System (das die PS-Dateien RIPt)
: und exportiert den Drucker wie dort ueblich ins Netz,
: Wo kann man was nachlesen, wie man einen W95-Drucker von OS aus benutzt ?
Aus 'man samba'
The smbclient(1) program implements a simple ftp-like
client. This is useful for accessing SMB shares on other
compatible servers (such as WfWg), and can also be used to
allow a unix box to print to a printer attached to any SMB
server (such as a PC running WfWg).
--
Axel Habermann
kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Probleme mit sendmail
Date: 6 Aug 1998 16:05:41 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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References: <35c9c4da.0@m3-hh-alpha.03.net>
mike@inis.de wrote:
: Nach der Installation von sendmail (Version ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.5/8.8.5)
: taucht beim versenden von mail folgendes Problem auf, falls man nicht
: in der Gruppe wheel ist:
: inis-13> mail -v frank
: Subject: test
: .
: Cc:
: Null message body; hope that's ok
: cannot chdir(/usr/spool/mqueue): Permission denied
: inis-13>
: Dies Problem tritt jedoch nicht am netinfo-server auf.
: Hat irgendjemand eine Idee?
Ich wuerde schaetzen, du solltest sendmail setuid-root
installieren. Jedenfalls war das frueher immer so.
--
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kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
Date: 6 Aug 1998 19:19:25 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) wrote:
>
>Ja, "let's GNOMEstep" :-).
>
waehre es nocht richtiger "let's GNUstep"?
nachdem ich http://pweb.netcom.com/~far/far.html
gesehen habe, habe ich auf Felipes Bitte hin jedenfalls gleich NSSavePanel
implementiert.
(fuer die implementation vieler klassen aus gnustep braucht man uebrigens gar
kein linux. also bitte freiwillige vor).
daniel
From: dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Atarianer (Wie OpenStep Entwicklung)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:55:12 +0100
Organization: INS - Informationstechnik, Netzwerke und Systeme Vertriebs-GmbH
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?tm"[IkcIi!P99.+vrN\b@%~)7Bm6=vzT;q\-Oq?U?XXEe<[Zw?.KqxLv
Moin Daniel,
> ich habe einen ImageFilter service fuer atari gem .img rumliegen und einen
> .rsc file viewer
Stark einen RSC Viewer, einen Metafile Viewer hast du aber
(verstandlicherweise) nicht gemacht, oder?
> allgemein finde ich atari heute aber eher unattraktiv (und mir sind alle
> SM124 abgeraucht).
Heutzutage richtig. Ich wollte nur gefragt haben, ob "alte" (im sinne
von ehemalige oder noch aktive) Atarianer den Weg nach OpenStep gefunden
haben. Ich will nicht hoffen das viele im DOS-Sumpf erstickt sind.
Ciao
Dieter
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From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: VNC (war: Re: Mac OS X Strategie)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 22:46:09 +0200
Organization: University of Bonn, Germany / www.joint.org
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Hi!
Dirk Theisen <theisen@akaMail.com> wrote:
> > Kein(!) Client/Server Modell fuer MacOS X (nicht(!) fuer MacOS X
> > Server, das noch DPS basierend sein wird!). Damit kein 'generischer'
> > graphischer Remote-Access, sondern sogenannte 'third party opportunities',
> > sprich kostet Geld, ist mit an Sicherheit grenzender Wahrscheinlichkeit
> > uneinhetlich gemacht, jeder backt seine eigenen Broetchen.
>
> Also VNC kostet kein Geld und ist absolut offen und frei. Jeder kann
> neue Komressionsverfahren und Server schreiben.
> Apple hat versprochen die Entsprechenden Haken :-) zur Verfügung zu
> stellen.
Das nenne ich JIT (just in time):
Die erste VNC (client) beta ist da: http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc/
Ich hab's natürlich gleich mit unserer Sun ausprobiert und ich muß
sagen: Beeindruckend!!
Ich habe den Eindruck, daß es etwas smoother läuft als MacX. Einige
Featues (Clipboard etc.) fehlen noch, aber ich konnte Ghostview
hervorragen fernbedienen...
Gruß
Dirk
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From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: (16.7.98) MacCampus am Rechenzentrum Erlangen...Hardware und Mac OS X Strategie
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 22:53:25 +0200
Organization: University of Bonn, Germany / www.joint.org
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H.-R. Oberhage <phy070@spo109> wrote:
> Weiter: PS/EPS sind die Standards fuer Abbildungen in (naturwissen-
> schaftlichen) Artikeln (TeX/LaTeX) und mehr. Und Tiff-Thumbnails sind
> nun wirklich eine Vergewaltigung wie sie Redmond benoetigt fuer solche
> Formate. Apple braucht's jetzt aber auch! Fortschritt?
Also selbst Shareware-Programme schaffen das (EPS-Darstellung). Wenn ich
das richtig verstanden habe, dann ist EPS geringfügig einfacher zu
konvertieren. Bitte berrichtigt mit ggfs.
Ich könnte mir vorstellen, daß Apple dafür eine Lösung haben wird.
Gruß
Dirk
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From: Mario Illgen <Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Atarianer (Wie OpenStep Entwicklung)
Date: 6 Aug 1998 20:34:58 GMT
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
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dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn) wrote:
>Heutzutage richtig. Ich wollte nur gefragt haben, ob "alte" (im sinne
>von ehemalige oder noch aktive) Atarianer den Weg nach OpenStep gefunden
>haben. Ich will nicht hoffen das viele im DOS-Sumpf erstickt sind.
>
Noch einer... Der Mega ST und der Falcon sind auch noch vorhanden,
jedoch kaum genutzt...
Ciao, Mario
--
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"It's a perfect day to throw back your head and kiss it all goodbye..."
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From: ergo@camelot.in-berlin.de (Olaf Foellinger)
Subject: Re: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
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In <6qc1a7$9hq$2@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Daniel Boehringer wrote:
> wenigstens kann man unter Win/KDE menues
> abpfluecken und frei positionieren.
Das kann man mit Rhapsody Menüs auch.
Gruß Olaf
From: pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Alte NS Applikationen für Openstep/NT
Date: 6 Aug 1998 21:52:44 GMT
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szallies@energotec.de (Constantin Szallies) wrote:
>weiß jemand, ob es irgendeins dieser NeXTSTEP Applikationen für Openstep/NT
>gibt?
>- Diagram
GlyphiX ein Nachbau von Diagram. Die Beta 1 sieht schon einigermaßen
vielversprechend aus (nicht öffentlich). GlyphiX wird wahrscheinlich Diagram
Files lesen können. Von der Final, die ca. zeitgleich mit MacOS X Server
erscheinen soll, wird es wohl auch eine YB/Windows Version geben.
>- Mesa
Aktuelle Beta für Mesa 3 unter
ftp://ftp.plsys.co.uk/pub/Products/Mesa3/WinNT/mesa3b3.app.w.I.tar.gz
Christian
From: fen.vertrieb@t-online.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NextStep 3.3 und Asus BX Board
Date: 6 Aug 1998 08:49:26 GMT
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laire@basis.owl.de (Ralph Schmidt) wrote:
> Es lag doch am SCSI.
Der SCSI-Chip auf Deinem Board wird noch nicht unterstuetzt.
Laut Apple ist ein Treiber in Arbeit.
> Genau danach haette er eingebunden werden
> sollen. Mit meinem Symbios 825(leider ein PCI Slot verschwendet)
> ging es dann aber erst nachdem die ID nicht mehr 8 war.
> Irgendwie komisch, dass ein treiber fuer den 825 nicht >8 scanned.
NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP unterstuetzt keine SCSI-ID's groesser 7.
> Was ich auch sehr merkwuerdig finde ist sie screenmode liste
> des Matrox Millenium 2 8MB Treibers. Kein 1280*1024 in 32 (oder 24bit)
Ich fahre zwei Mill2, 8MB mit 1280*1024 x 32, vielleicht verwendest Du einen
alten Treiber, aktuell ist die 4.10.
- Karsten
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*** Powered_By_NeXTSTEP ***
From: sieg@xxx.uni-muenchen.de (Arne Sieg)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Anbindung remotePrinter TCP/IP
Date: 6 Aug 1998 23:25:19 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
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droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) wrote:
>In article <6q9fb2$7k7$1@gwdu19.gwdg.de> bsmolny@primera.bgc-jena.mpg.de
>(Bertram Smolny) writes:
>> wir haben einen Canon Kopierer mit Postscript -Rip zur Teststellung.
Wir installieren gerade einen infotec 5402 (oder so aehnlich) von danka bei
uns.
>>
>> Wie kann ich den von OS4.2 aus ansprechen, wenn das RIP eine
>> eigene IP-Adresse und ein eigenes ppd-file hat.
>> Mit Schnittstelleneinstellung "Jetdirek"t funktioniert das nicht.
Richtig, Jetdirekt funktioniert nicht.
>> was muss da in /etc/printcap eingetragen werden und wie sagt man das der
>> Netinfo-DB ?
>
>Das haengt auch davon ab, was der Drucker fuer Netzwerkprotokolle
>spricht. Viele Drucker mit Ethernet Anschluss beherrschen
>mittlerweile direkt das lpd-Protokoll. In soeinem Fall geht das
Ja, das kann unserer auch!
>recht leicht:
>
>Fuer printcap schreibt man eine kleine Datei (z.B. 'canon.pc') mit:
>
>canontest: \
> :sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/canontest:rm=testip:rp=voelligegal:lp=: \
> :ty=Canon Typ Name: \
> :note=Teststellung Canon mit RIP:lo=lock: \
> :_nxfinalform:
>
>'canontest' ist dann der Name des Druckers im Printpanel, 'testip'
>ist ein in NetInfo oder wo auch immer eingetragener hostname
>mit der IP des Druckers (habe noch nie probiert dort direkt eine
>IP-Nummer hinzuschreiben). 'voelligegal' ist genau das - ein
>Dummy-Name. Im 'ty=' Feld muss der Name der PPD Datei stehen,
Nein! Kein Dummy-Name, sondern der Name der remote-queue, also der
Druckerwarteschlange, ggf. muss hier der Richtige Name fuer eine
Postscript-Schlange eingetragen werden! Bei uns war das "PASSTHRU" !
(Und "TEXT" fuer nicht PS-Code.)
>wobei Leerzeichen hier in der Printcap Unterstreichstrichen
>im Dateinamen der PPD entsprechen. Der Suffix ".ppd" steht
>in der printcap nicht. Die PPD Datei muss in
> /LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/
>stehen (zur Not auch im Pendant in /NextLibrary). Falls man
>mit deutscher Oberflaeche arbeitet und die PPD deutsch ist
>kann man sie auch in /<xxx>Library/PrinterTypes/German.lproj
>ablegen. Das _nxfinalform sorgt dafuer, dass alle dem Drucker
_nxfinalform ist gut, dass habe ich noch nicht eingetragen!
>nicht bekannten Fonts automatisch in die Jobs eingebettet werden.
>
>Jetzt als root den printcap Eintrag nach NetInfo loaden:
> niload printcap / < canon.pc
Vorher vielleicht noch ein
nidump printcap / > printcap.bisher
Das printcap.bisher dann um den Eintrag canon.pc erweitern!
Dann
niload printcap / < printcap.bisher
>
>Danach sollte jede Applikation sofort (oder spaetestens nach
>einem erneuten Aufruf) den Drucker im PrintPanel anbieten.
Das funktioniert einwandfrei.
Allerdings bereitet mir das ppd doch erheblich Probleme. Es schaut gut aus,
man kann auswaehlen, aber der Ausdruck wird doch nicht beeinflusst: von wegen
300/400/600 dpi oder duplex oder Heftung...
Vielleicht ist
*PPD-Adobe: "4.3"
einfach zu neu oder hat es etwas hiermit zu tun:
*% ===== Device Capabilities ===============
*LanguageLevel: "2"
*Protocols: PJL TBCP
Vielleicht ist PJL TBCP nicht von Next unterstuetzt?
1. Es wird die Einstellung der Hardware nicht genutzt. Auch wenn ich die
Default Werte korrekt setze - dieser Abschnitt wird einfach ignoriert!
*% ===== INSTALLABLE OPTIONS: ====================
*OpenGroup: InstallableOptions/Options Installed
2. Die Constraints scheine dann natuerlich auch nicht beruecksichtigt zu
werden. :-(
*% ===== CONSTRAINTS: ======================
*% If finisher not installed, stapling is not available.
*UIConstraints: *Option2 None *RIStaple SinglePortrait
3. Anzeigen und einstellen ermoeglichen die OpenUI Anweisungen, der Kopierer
tut es dann aber nicht :-(
*OpenGroup: SelectionFeatures/Features
*% ===== Input options ============
*RequiresPageRegion All: True
*OpenUI *InputSlot: PickOne
Was muss man am besten Aendern, um zumindest die dpi-Zahl, Duplex und Heftung
einzustellen? Und zwar so, dass er es auch druckt. Ich habe es mit 3.3 und
4.2 probiert, erfolglos.
Duplex sieht z.B. so aus (Mein naechstes Experiment ist sicherlich in der 4.
Zeile: *DefaultDuplex: mit einem anderen Wert zu belegen, aber ich bin nicht
sehr zuversichtlich.
*% ===== Duplex options ============
*OpenUI *Duplex/Duplex (beidseitiger Druck): PickOne
*OrderDependency: 50.0 AnySetup *Duplex
*DefaultDuplex: None
*Duplex None/Aus (einseitiger Druck): "<</Duplex false /Tumble false
/Policies <</Duplex 2>> >> setpagedevice"
*End
*Duplex DuplexNoTumble/Duplex (Heftung an langer Kante): "<</Duplex true
/Tumble false
/Policies <</Duplex 2>> >> setpagedevice"
*End
*Duplex DuplexTumble/Duplex (Heftung an kurzer Kante): "<</Duplex true
/Tumble true
/Policies <</Duplex 2>> >> setpagedevice"
*End
*?Duplex: "save
currentpagedevice dup /Duplex known
{/Duplex get
{currentpagedevice /Tumble get {(DuplexTumble)} {(DuplexNoTumble)} ifelse}
{(None)}
ifelse}
{pop (Unknown)} ifelse = flush
restore"
*End
*CloseUI: *Duplex
Gruesse,
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From: sieg@xxx.uni-muenchen.de (Arne Sieg)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NT und NeXTStep
Date: 6 Aug 1998 23:52:48 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <6qdfkg$bnb@pizzastation.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <35C1D329.D647BE84@fhtw-berlin.de> <6psr1b$css$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>Matthias Waehlisch <mw@fhtw-berlin.de> wrote:
>>ich habe ein ganz gro=DFes problem.
>>wir haben an unserer schule ein netzwerk und wollen jetzt NeXT
>>installieren. das problem liegt darin, dass windows NT schon installiert
>>ist samt seinem bootloader und wir diesen gerne erhalten wollen.
>
>Kein Problem. Einfach draufinstallieren. NeXTSTEP unterstuetzt
>Dual Boot - man kann also nahc der Installation NT booten. Der
>umgekehrte Weg ist es, der Probleme bereitet - bei Installation
>von NT oder W95 wird der vorherige Bootsektor kaputtgemacht,
>egal ob es Linux, OPENSTEP, was auch immer war. Seltsam, nicht?
>
>>b) gibt es einen einfache methode NeXT =FCber das netzwerk zu
>>installieren, =
>> so dass die clients kein cd-rom-laufwerk ben=F6tigen?
>
>Nicht praktikabel.
Hae???
Natuerlich geht das!
Einen Install-Server mit NetInstallHelper.app einrichten (und in Netinfo die
Daten der zukuenftigen clients bekanntgeben, sprich Name, IP und
Ethernetadresse) und Floppies erstellen, dann per Floppy die Clients booten
und Netzwerkkarte angeben und der Rest geht von alleine.
Viel Spass,
--
Arne Sieg
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extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =-
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Atarianer (Wie OpenStep Entwicklung)
Date: 7 Aug 1998 08:42:36 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6qeels$h74$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
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dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn) wrote:
>Moin Daniel,
>Stark einen RSC Viewer, einen Metafile Viewer hast du aber
>(verstandlicherweise) nicht gemacht, oder?
der rsc viewer ist eigentlich ein (unvollendeter) source-code-level emulator.
metafiles hat doch schon auf dem atari keiner genutzt, oder?
>Heutzutage richtig. Ich wollte nur gefragt haben, ob "alte" (im sinne
>von ehemalige oder noch aktive) Atarianer den Weg nach OpenStep gefunden
>haben. Ich will nicht hoffen das viele im DOS-Sumpf erstickt sind.
die sind alle nach os/2 ("die atari idee lebt weiter") abgezischt. eigentlich
gemein, es trifft immer die gleichen... aber wer im glashaus sitzt ;-)
daniel
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Alte NS Applikationen für Openstep/NT
Date: 7 Aug 1998 08:54:37 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler) wrote:
>szallies@energotec.de (Constantin Szallies) wrote:
>>weiß jemand, ob es irgendeins dieser NeXTSTEP Applikationen für Openstep/NT
>>gibt?
>>- Diagram
>
>GlyphiX ein Nachbau von Diagram. Die Beta 1 sieht schon einigermaßen
>vielversprechend aus (nicht öffentlich). GlyphiX wird wahrscheinlich Diagram
>Files lesen können. Von der Final, die ca. zeitgleich mit MacOS X Server
>erscheinen soll, wird es wohl auch eine YB/Windows Version geben.
klingt gut. wird das shareware?
daniel
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Alte NS Applikationen für Openstep/NT
Date: 7 Aug 1998 09:25:45 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) wrote:
>pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler) wrote:
>>szallies@energotec.de (Constantin Szallies) wrote:
>>>weiß jemand, ob es irgendeins dieser NeXTSTEP Applikationen für
Openstep/NT
>>>gibt?
>>>- Diagram
>>
>>GlyphiX ein Nachbau von Diagram. Die Beta 1 sieht schon einigermaßen
>>vielversprechend aus (nicht öffentlich). GlyphiX wird wahrscheinlich
Diagram
>>Files lesen können. Von der Final, die ca. zeitgleich mit MacOS X Server
>>erscheinen soll, wird es wohl auch eine YB/Windows Version geben.
Yip, die Beta sieht ganz gut aus.
>klingt gut. wird das shareware?
Glaub ich kaum.
Chris
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
Date: 7 Aug 1998 09:50:41 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6qeilh$n5a$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
>
>>Man kann sowohl unter Gnome als unter KDE wegen CORBA im Prinzip
>>jede Sprache benutzen. So wie ich das kapiert habe ist das
>>technologisch eventuell toller als NeXTstep, weil Verteilung der
>>Objekte im Netz und SprachunabhÙngigkeit kein Problem mehr sein sollte.
>
>Programmier mal mit Corba, und dann komm zurueck, und erzaehl uns
>wie das alles ueberhaupt kein Problem ist.
Ich entschuldige mich ausdruecklich fuer meinen harschen Ton. Nicht
fuer jeden ist es auschlaggebend, wie komfortabel eine Schnittstelle
bedient werden kann. In der Tat kann man mit Corba sprachunabhaengig
programmieren, das hat halt nur einen (meiner Ansicht nach zu hohen)
Preis. YMMV.
>Darf ich uebrigens vorschlagen, diesen ganzen Programmiersprachen-
>schnickschnack sein zu lassen, Wissenschaftler in den USA haben vor
>kurzem festgestellt dass man mit einer dieser neuartigen "Touring"
>Maschinen alle maschinell berechenbaren Probleme loesen kann - und
>das mit einem ganz einfachen Befehlssatz, den jeder in nur wenigen
>Stunden erlernen kann. Und ist (angeblich) noch bunter als KDE und
>Windows95 - k00l!!
Deiner Mail, Eberhard, entnehme ich, dass du dir diesen Schuh nicht
anziehst, was mich freut. Es gibt aber in der Linux-Community eine
ganze Reihe von Leuten, die als groessten Vorteil dieses Systems
die Konfigurierbarkeit und Featuritis der diversen Windowmanager
sehen. Meiner bescheidenen Meinung nach ist aber nicht die Frage
relevant, welche Dinge man mit einer bestimmten Oberflaeche/ einer
API/einer Programmiersprache machen _kann_, sondern wie einfach,
elegant, selbstdokumentierend der Weg dorthin ist. Um Gary Longsine
zu zitieren: "Elegance is relevant" (sag mir jetzt aber keiner, dass
sei auch von Frank Siegert, oder ich falle vom Glauben ab :-).
Die ganzen Diskussionen 'ja, aber XYZ kann man mit C++ auch machen'
sind pointless, C++ ist Turing-complete, Punktum. Die Frage ist, ob
ich mir beim Programmieren meiner komplexen Anwendung dauernd in den
Fuss schiesse. Auch hier gilt, YMMV. Fuer mich zumindest ist es relevant.
Zuguterletzt bitte ich fuer uns Nextheads um Nachsicht - wir sind
alle etwas sehr "edgy" - eine Riege unverbesserlicher McBetonkoepfe
ist bei Apple derzeit damit zugange, eines der besten OO Frameworks
zu demontieren. Es kann dann schon mal passieren, dass einer von uns
in Holgi-Mode geht und zu schnell schiesst. Wie klang das noch bei
Dr Demento?
"cause I'm - trigger-happy, trigger-happy all the time.."
In diesem Sinne, no offense meant,
Chris
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From: heinrich.rode@nienburg-weser.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NextStep auf AGP Boards?
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 12:15:21 GMT
Message-ID: <35caef99.1547224@news>
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>Joerg Kollmann wrote:
>> Kurze Frage:
>> unterstuetzt OpenStep 4.2 AGP Boards mit AGP-Grafikkarte(z.B. ATI
>Xpert@Work)?
>
sie wird unterstützt (läuft bei mir einwandfrei).
Gruss
Heinrich
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From: Ralf Bornat
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Atarianer (Wie OpenStep Entwicklung)
Date: 7 Aug 1998 15:04:21 GMT
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In Daniel Boehringer wrote:
> die sind alle nach os/2 ("die atari idee lebt weiter") abgezischt.
eigentlich
> gemein, es trifft immer die gleichen... aber wer im glashaus sitzt ;-)
Ich kenne viele, die den gleichen Weg: Apple IIe/C64, Atari ST und dann NeXT
gemacht haben! Leider müssen viele jetzt mit NT arbeiten, um auch etwas Geld
zu verdienen.
Ralf
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From: Axel.Rau@Fr.Bosch.DE (Axel Rau - Bosch Gruppe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OS 4.2: Installation mit 2 SCSI-Controller an einem PCI-Bus
Date: 7 Aug 1998 16:12:38 GMT
Organization: The Bosch Group (Robert Bosch GmbH, Germany)
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In article <6prshh$flo4@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) writes:
> Axel Rau - QI/RZS1 (Axel.Rau@Fr.Bosch.DE) wrote:
> : Hallo--
> :
> : Versuche OPENSTEP 4.2 zu installieren. Die Kiste hat
> : - Adaptec AIC-7880 (UW, Dev: 6) *und*
> : - Adaptec AHA 2940 (U, Dev: 16)
> : Bei der Treiberauswahl werden beide Controller erkannt und mit den
> : Device-Adressen oben angezeigt. Leider findet das Betriebssystem nur
> : den ersten (Dev: 6), an dem zwar die Festplatte, nicht aber das CDROM-
> : Laufwerk haengt. Ich benutze den neusten Treiber fuer die 2940/7880-
> : Familie.
> :
> : Ich vermute, man kann durch Duplizieren des Driver-Bundle auf der
> : Driver-Disk und entsprechendes Anpassen der Instance0.table-s (Location
> : Dev: 16 etc) das gewuenschte Ziel erreichen.
>
> Wahrscheinlich ist das richtig, aber ich wuerde es erst einmal stufen-
> weise probieren:
> Zunaechst mit Configure.app einfach eine zweite Instanz anlegen. Sollte
...
Nachdem ich mir einen Rechner mit bereits laufenden OS 4.2
besorgt hatte, (auf dem beide Controller problemlos laufen),
konnte ich das ausprobieren:
1. In Configure.app 2. Instanz anlegen (bei Installiertem 2. Controller)
2. Dieses Treiberbuendel auf die Treiberdiskette schreiben
3. Im Treiberauswahldialog fuer CDROM und Disk die beiden (sauber angezeigten)
2940 auswaehlen.
4. Keine weiteren Treiber laden...
5. OS startet und findet wieder nur den ersten (mit der niedrigen Dev-Nr)
6. Durch Eintragen der betreffenden Autodetect-ID, kann man erzwingen,
welcher Controller erkannt wird. Beim n chsten Reboot nach Installation
des Basis-Systems wird wieder nur der erste Controller erkannt,
obwohl, wie verlangt, meine spezielle Treiberdiskette eingelesen
wurde.
Derzeit habe ich nur den Workaround, waehrend der Installation das CDROM
ueber einen Reduzierstecker am wide-SCSI-Bus zu betreiben :-)>
Axel
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From: gail@gmx.de (Markus Gail)
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H.-R. Oberhage <phy070@spo109> wrote:
> Weiter: PS/EPS sind die Standards fuer Abbildungen in (naturwissen-
> schaftlichen) Artikeln (TeX/LaTeX) und mehr.
Es sollte möglich sein, QDGX-Dokumente ohne Probleme nach PS zu
konvertieren.
> Und Tiff-Thumbnails sind nun wirklich eine Vergewaltigung wie sie Redmond
> benoetigt fuer solche Formate. Apple braucht's jetzt aber auch!
Apple brauchte sie bisher auch für PS. Ob sie unter QDGX noch benötigt
werden, weiß ich nicht. Du etwa? Ich denke, GDGX hat das Potential, daß
man auf solche Krücken verzichten kann. Wir werden's sehen.
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From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
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Subject: Portieren von Unix/Linux auf MOSX?
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 22:45:31 +0200
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<Blubber>
Irgendwas muss mich wohl gepackt haben: Vor ein paar Wochen habe ich mir
eine Linux-Distribution bestellt (TurboLinux/PPC; kann ich bisher nicht
empfehlen!). Am Montag habe ich sie schliesslich bekommen und heute bin
ich nach heftigen Installationskaempfen soweit, dass ich mich als root
einloggen kann. Aber, wie komme ich auf solche Ideen? Immerhin habe ich
dafuer RDR2 (nach einem Backup) uebergebuegelt. Nun, ich war neidisch,
auf einige der schoenen Sachen, die es fuer Linux gibt. Insbesondere den
graphischen Debugger DDD (http://www.cs.tu-bs.de/softech/ddd/) wollte
ich mir unbedingt ansehen.
</Blubber>
Allerdings, bisher habe ich kaum den Eindruck, dass ich mit Linux
alsbald Freundschaft schliessen werde. Also die andere Option: Die
interessante Software auf Rhapsody/MOSX portieren. Ich befuerchte, das
ist keine Kleinigkeit, hauptsaechlich was das GUI angeht, aber wenn
schon jemand Erfahrungen damit hat, waere ich ueber Hinweise zum
Einstieg sehr froh.
Michael
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From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTstep/OpenStep und GNUstep [was: Re: Linux oder BSD]
Date: 9 Aug 1998 01:31:39 GMT
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> "Elegance is relevant" (sag mir jetzt aber keiner, dass
> sei auch von Frank Siegert, oder ich falle vom Glauben ab :-).
Nein, ich rede zwar viel wenn der Tag lang ist, aber da kam mir jemand zuvor,
ausserdem klingt obiges eher nach Holger :-)
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From: cdbonestee@aol.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: A new approach to clean food
Date: 10 Aug 1998 05:36:46 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <549814881448.3575579260@aol.com>
This sounded like a hoax. Taking a look, I found that although it
_sounds_ like one, it somehow makes sense. After all, there are
several things that work, even if we cannot explain them. Users of
wishing-wands are an example. They do find water, but nobody knows
or can proof how it works.
Anyway, I'm thinking of ordering one of their glass wands. It's not
a lot of money if it can do what they claim.
Any opinions?
Surfin'
On 5 Aug 1998 09:18:33 GMT, info@NO-SPAMcleanfood.com wrote:
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>
> http://www.cleanfood.com
>
> You will also find that the Polarizer is a simple, easy to use
> device.
>
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> deactivate the pathogenes in your food.
>
>
> Clean Food Corp.
> http://www.cleanfood.com
>
>
> Please remove the obvious when replying via email. If you don't eat,
> you may consider this message off-topic. Sorry for that.
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From: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Automatischer Reboot nach System-Panic, wie?
Date: 10 Aug 1998 08:46:00 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6qmc08$3j7$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Hallo,
wir haben hier eine schwarze Next unter Nextstep 3.3, die an einem
FAX-Modem haengt und mit diesem auch einen PPP-Server anbietet.
Dummerweise ist dieser PPP-Server (aktuelle Version) dermassen
fehlerhaft, dass er jeden zweiten Tag eine Panic ausloest. Leider
bleibt die Maschine danach im Panic-Fenster stehen und wartet auf eine
Eingabe, statt automatisch neu zu starten, so dass sie von aussen dann
nicht mehr zu erreichen ist.
Weiss jemand, ob es eine Moeglichkeit gibt, dieses Verhalten zu
veraendern? Ein automatischer Reboot nach der Panic wuerde imens
helfen.
Bevor jetzt wieder wenig konstruktive Vorschlaege kommen:
1) Ja, wir muessen den PPP-Server unter Nextstep betreiben, da wir
sonst auf das FAX-Modem verzichten muessten.
2) Nein es ist nicht so, dass Nextstep viel zu instabil sei, um als
Server zu arbeiten. Wir haben hier eine Intel-Kiste mit OPENSTEP 4.2,
die NFS-, Netinfo-Server ist und zusaetzlich ganz normal taeglich
benutzt wird und die laeuft seit 242 Tagen absturz- und reboot-frei!!!
Einen miesen 3rd-Party-Kernel-Server kann man dem System wirklich
nicht vorwerfen.
Wenn jetzt trotzdem noch konstruktive Vorschlaege kommen, waere ich
sehr dankbar.
Dirk
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: moderN: rechtschreibpruefung a la winword unter openstep
Date: 10 Aug 1998 16:44:34 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6qn81i$g0t$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Aug 1998 16:44:34 GMT
wers haben will:
http://www.biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/~boehring/software/im.tgz
InfoManager ins homeverzeichnis kopieren/mergen, TextEdit.app starten und in
das Edit menue schauen.
keine gewaehr! trotzdem frohes spellen wuenscht
daniel
From: reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de (Reinhard Wolf)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: Netzteil Station
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:43:29 GMT
Organization: University of Giessen, Germany
Message-ID: <35cf4d11.1008145@news.uni-giessen.de>
Hallo NeXTies,
hat zufaellig noch jemand ein Netzteil fuer nen Slab rumliegen -
funktionieren sollte es schon. Habe keinen Bock schon wieder in den
Staaten bestellen zu muessen.... apropos... laeuft grade ne
Sammelbestellung - wer weiss was??
Danke fuer jede Info
Gruesse
Reinhard
------------------
Reinhard Wolf
Rodheimerstr. 30
35398 Giessen
Germany
email: reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de
From: reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de (Reinhard Wolf)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Sammelbestellung DST?
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:45:40 GMT
Organization: University of Giessen, Germany
Message-ID: <35cf4d7d.1115680@news.uni-giessen.de>
Hallo zusammen,
laeuft grade bei irgendwem eine Sammelbestellung oder wie oder was?
Infos waeren gut.
Notfalls liesse ich mich auch - entsprechende Resonanz vorausgesetzt
nochmal dazu breitschlagen....
Braeuchte eigentlich ja nur ein Netzteil fuer nen Bekannten...
Gruesse an die NeXT Gemeinde!
Reinhard
------------------
Reinhard Wolf
Rodheimerstr. 30
35398 Giessen
Germany
email: reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de
From: Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Sammelbestellung DST?
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:46:30 +0200
Organization: EUnet Austria
Message-ID: <35CFE8C6.4FCA@softlab.co.at>
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Ich koennte eine non ADB Maus gebrauche (oder BusLogic Maus mit Adapter)
Max
Reinhard Wolf wrote:
>
> Hallo zusammen,
>
> laeuft grade bei irgendwem eine Sammelbestellung oder wie oder was?
>
> Infos waeren gut.
> Notfalls liesse ich mich auch - entsprechende Resonanz vorausgesetzt
> nochmal dazu breitschlagen....
>
> Braeuchte eigentlich ja nur ein Netzteil fuer nen Bekannten...
>
> Gruesse an die NeXT Gemeinde!
>
> Reinhard
>
> ------------------
> Reinhard Wolf
> Rodheimerstr. 30
> 35398 Giessen
> Germany
> email: reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de
From: Markus Preller <Markus.Preller@rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: Color NeXTStation Turbo
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:05:00 +0200
Organization: Rechenzentrum Universitaet Erlangen
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Hi,
ich bin auf der Suche nach einer Color NeXTStation Turbo.
Es sollten nach Moeglichkeit folgende Komponenten dabei sein:
- 17" Megapixel Color Display,
- SoundBox,
- ADB-Tastatur und Maus.
- 8 oder 16 MB Hauptspeicher
- Kabel, die man sonst noch so braucht.
In Bezug auf eine Festplatte ist es mir eigentlich egal was und wieviel
drin ist. Ich nehm die Kiste auch gerne ohne Festplatte.
Wer so ein Teil loshaben moechte, der moege sich bitte bei mir
melden und zwar unter folgender E-Mail Adresse:
Markus.Preller@rrze.uni-erlangen.de
Ciao,
Markus!
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: S: Netzteil Station
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 06:53:26 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
Sender: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller)
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In article <35cf4d11.1008145@news.uni-giessen.de>
reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de (Reinhard Wolf) writes:
> Hallo NeXTies,
>
> hat zufaellig noch jemand ein Netzteil fuer nen Slab rumliegen -
> funktionieren sollte es schon. Habe keinen Bock schon wieder in den
> Staaten bestellen zu muessen.... apropos... laeuft grade ne
> Sammelbestellung - wer weiss was??
>
> Danke fuer jede Info
Darf ich in diesem Zusammenhang auf meine NeXT power supply page verweisen:
http://www.lrz.de/~heller
Wie waere es mit einem umgebauten PC Netzteil? Meines laeuft nun schon
Jahre ohne Probleme und die original NeXT Netzteile scheinen alle frueher
oder spaeter ins Gras zu beissen....
Servus,
Helmut
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From: Matthias Waehlisch <mw@fhtw-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: DHCP
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:22:25 +0200
Organization: FHTW-Berlin
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hi,
wei=DF einer ob NeXT DHCP unterst=FCtzt? wenn ja, wie kann man es
einrichten?
cu,
matthias
From: Lukasz Pekacki <bo-b@bo-ag.net>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Entwickler gesucht: Web Objects, Java
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:30:50 +0200
Organization: Business Online AG
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Für verschiedene Web-Projekte suchen wir
ab sofort Entwickler, die Erfahrung mit
Web Objects und Java-Applets haben.
Interessenten an:
Herwart-Schmidt Joos
Business Online AG Berlin
Tel. 030/285-3810
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From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Altes NeXT MO-Laufwerk an NeXTstation benutzbar???
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:51:13 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
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Hi,
ich habe hier noch ein altes NeXT MO-Laufwerk rumliegen, welches aus einem
Cube stammt. - Da ich nur noch eine NeXTstation habe, stellt sich mir die Frage,
ob man ein altes Cube MO-Laufwerk irgendwie an den SCSI-Bus einer Station
angeschlossen bekommt??? (Ich wuerde gerne feststellen ob das Ding noch
funktioniert oder aber defekt ist).
Die Cubes hatten frueher einen extra Controller fuer die MO-Laufwerke und einen
20 Pin Steckeranschluss auf ihrem Motherboard. - Die Frage ist, ob die alten
NeXT
MO-Laufwerke ueberhaupt in irgendeiner Form SCSI - Laufwerke sind (?), oder
halt etwas proprietaeres.
In einem meiner alten NeXT Services-Ordner sind die MO-Laufwerke Schnittstellen-
technisch nicht naeher spezifiziert.
Weiss jemand hierzu genaueres???
Gruss Valentino
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Entwickler gesucht: Web Objects, Java
Date: 14 Aug 1998 12:47:37 GMT
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>Für verschiedene Web-Projekte suchen wir
>ab sofort Entwickler, die Erfahrung mit
>Web Objects und Java-Applets haben.
Die sind momentan in Deutschland schwer zu finden. :-)
<shameless plug>
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From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Altes NeXT MO-Laufwerk an NeXTstation benutzbar???
Date: 14 Aug 1998 14:20:48 GMT
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In <35D30B70.514F6274@lavielle.com> Valentino Kyriakides wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ich habe hier noch ein altes NeXT MO-Laufwerk rumliegen, welches aus einem
> Cube stammt. - Da ich nur noch eine NeXTstation habe, stellt sich mir die
Frage,
>
> ob man ein altes Cube MO-Laufwerk irgendwie an den SCSI-Bus einer Station
> angeschlossen bekommt??? (Ich wuerde gerne feststellen ob das Ding noch
> funktioniert oder aber defekt ist).
Nein, geht AFAIK leider nicht... der Controller fehlt schlichtweg in der
Station und das Interface hat nicht viel mit SCSI gemein.
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From: Thomas Adams <tadams@lnxbsa.informatik.fh-dortmund.de>
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Date: 14 Aug 1998 20:37:03 GMT
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Ich habe hier so einen OS 4.2 Rechner, der einen Computer als mailrelay
verwendet, auf dem sendmail 8.9.0 installiert ist. Über diesen Rechner
funktioniert jetzt das Verschicken manchmal und manchmal tut es einfach
nicht.
Darauf angesprochen, ob der Admin der entsprechenden Kiste vielleicht mit
Anti Spam Maßnahmen experimentiert, meinte er, nein. Er hat zwar einen
Relay Schutz aktiviert, aber das sollte ich eigentlich nicht bemerken,
weil mein Rechner innerhalb des erlaubten IP Bereiches liegt.
Zusammengefaßt kann man also sagen, daß weder ich noch der Betreiber des
mailrelays die Konfiguration verändert und trotzdem funktioniert das
Verschicken von Mail nur sporadisch.
Da der mailrelay Betreiber die Fehlermeldung nicht sehen wollte, die ich
bekomme, poste ich sie mal hier. Wer eine Idee hat, was ich ändern kann,
sollte nicht damit hinterm Berg halten. Vielen Dank.
---8<---
From agent Wed Aug 5 19:07:21 1998
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 98 19:07:21 +0100
From: NeXT Mail Agent <Mailer-Agent>
Subject: Returned mail: Remote protocol error
To: tadams
----- Transcript of session follows -----
While connected to xxx:
>>> MAIL From:<tadams@kido>
<<< 501 <tadams@kido>... Sender domain must exist
554 tadams@pobox.com... 554 Remote protocol error
----- Unsent message follows -----
...
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Ich habe ja schon gedacht, daß vielleicht der FQDN fehlt und dann die 2.
Zeile in dem folgenden Ausschnitt aus der sendmail.cf entkommentiert und
anschließend den sendmail neu gestartet. Klappte aber nicht.
# my fully qualified hostname, $j, is now set by sendmail internally
#Dj$?m$w.$m$|$w$.
Es klappte übrigens alles, bis unser mailrelay auf 8.9.0 aufgerüstet hat..
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Problem mit sendmail 8.9.0 mail relay
Date: 15 Aug 1998 15:18:33 GMT
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Thomas Adams <tadams@lnxbsa.informatik.fh-dortmund.de> wrote:
>Ich habe hier so einen OS 4.2 Rechner, der einen Computer als mailrelay
>verwendet, auf dem sendmail 8.9.0 installiert ist. Über diesen Rechner
>funktioniert jetzt das Verschicken manchmal und manchmal tut es einfach
>nicht.
>
>Darauf angesprochen, ob der Admin der entsprechenden Kiste vielleicht mit
>Anti Spam Maßnahmen experimentiert, meinte er, nein. Er hat zwar einen
>Relay Schutz aktiviert, aber das sollte ich eigentlich nicht bemerken,
>weil mein Rechner innerhalb des erlaubten IP Bereiches liegt.
Das liegt in der Tat am Anti-Relaying, der Sendmail weigert sich, deine
Mail entgegenzunehmen, weil der Domainname des Absenders nicht korrekt
ist. Hast du den Domainnamen in resolv.conf gesetzt?
Falls dort alles in Ordnung ist, versuchs mal weiter unten in
sendmail.cf:
# This is now set from the resolver configuration call. If the domain
# name you would like to have appear in your mail headers is different
# from your Internet domain name, edit and uncomment the following to
# be your mail domain name.
# DmPodunk.EDU
Hoffe das hilft,
Chris
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From: Marco van Hylckama Vlieg <fatal@global.uibk.ac.at>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NeXTstation/cube Color
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:19:26 +0200
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Hallo alle,
Ich moechte sehr gerne ein NeXT rechner kaufen aber es gibt fast keine
in die Niederlande. Ich habe gehoert dass es noch ziemlich viele
gibt in Deutschland. Ist das richtig?
Und: kann einer mir vielleicht sagen wo ich die rechner kaufen kann?
Es wird mir freuen wenn einer von Ihnen mir helfen kann...
Entschuldigung fuer mein schlechtes Deutsch...
Gruesse,
Marco van Hylckama Vlieg
bitte schicken sie mir e-mail auf: fatal@global.ac.at wenn sie mehr
wissen von NeXT rechnern in Deutschland.
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Gibt es leise 9gig-Patten?
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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 19:02:43 GMT
Hallo,
ich benoetige eine neue SCSI Platte und moechte mich mal umhoeren nach
Hinweisen zu den leisesten Vertretern dieser Klasse.
Meine letzte, eine 4.3 DCAS von IBM ist so gut wie lautlos.
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From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Gibt es leise 9gig-Patten?
Date: 16 Aug 1998 19:14:53 GMT
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In <Exsq8J.8n@manki.toppoint.de> Manfred Roehr wrote:
> ich benoetige eine neue SCSI Platte und moechte mich mal umhoeren nach
> Hinweisen zu den leisesten Vertretern dieser Klasse. Meine letzte, eine 4.3
> DCAS von IBM ist so gut wie lautlos.
IBM DDRS-39130W ist recht leise und erwaermt sich nicht besonders, ist nur
etwas fummelig beim einrichten der Partitionen, das liegt aber an
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.
Tschau...
Juergen
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 13:26:00 +0200
From: jogi@ncn.fido.de (Joerg Sievers)
Subject: Rhapsody DR2
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Moin!
Die DR2 fuer PC compatibles ist gerade eingetrudelt und habe mir auch die
Image-Disketten gezogen, jedoch habe ich so meine Zweifel, das RAWRITE das
alles so richtig gemacht hat, denn die erste Disk ist extrem klein und booten
kann ich nicht davon, da der DEFAULT.TABLE nicht gefunden wird.
Wird IDE/ATAPI - wie auf den Requirements-Vordruck vermerkt - unterstuetzt oder
ist das wieder ueberholt?
Mit lieben Gruessen
aus H a m b u r g
Jogi (Joerg Sievers)
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From: kra@bitbyte.com (Axel Küster)
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Subject: NFS mount üver WAN
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 13:30:19 GMT
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Hallo,
ich habe das folgende Problem:
Wenn ein NFS-Mount über WAN zwischen 2 NextStep-Rechner (Intel)
aufggebaut ist (Verbindung über 2 ISDN-Router) erhalte ich eine extrem
schlechte Performance, wesentlich schlechter, als sie für die 128 KBit
Strecke zu erwarten währe.
?? Ist das bereits schon mal jemandem untergekommen? Ich kenne mich
leider mit NEXT nicht gut aus. Es scheint so, als ob die Systeme immer
wieder die NFS-Verbindung verlieren (/usr/adm/messages-Eintrag) und
wieder aufbauen. Paralell zu dieser Verbindung klappt Telnet zwischen
beiden Rechnern ohne Probleme und auch ein weiteres Protokoll über
dieselbe Strecke macht keine Probleme.
Kann es sein, das NFS mit speziellen Parametern auf die WAN-Strecke
angepasst werden kann/muß (Timeout-zeiten u.a.)
Danke für Infos, Axel
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NFS mount =?US-ASCII?Q?=FCver?= WAN
Date: 17 Aug 1998 22:45:01 GMT
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Axel Küster <kra@bitbyte.com> wrote:
: Hallo,
: ich habe das folgende Problem:
: Wenn ein NFS-Mount über WAN zwischen 2 NextStep-Rechner (Intel)
: aufggebaut ist (Verbindung über 2 ISDN-Router) erhalte ich eine extrem
: schlechte Performance, wesentlich schlechter, als sie für die 128 KBit
: Strecke zu erwarten währe.
: ?? Ist das bereits schon mal jemandem untergekommen? Ich kenne mich
: leider mit NEXT nicht gut aus. Es scheint so, als ob die Systeme immer
: wieder die NFS-Verbindung verlieren (/usr/adm/messages-Eintrag) und
: wieder aufbauen. Paralell zu dieser Verbindung klappt Telnet zwischen
: beiden Rechnern ohne Probleme und auch ein weiteres Protokoll über
: dieselbe Strecke macht keine Probleme.
: Kann es sein, das NFS mit speziellen Parametern auf die WAN-Strecke
: angepasst werden kann/muß (Timeout-zeiten u.a.)
Ja. NFS geht bei NeXT noch ueber UDP. Daher solltest Du die retry-
Parameter fuer die langen Laufzeiten ueber die ISDN-Stecke anpassen.
Siehe Expert-Optionen im NFSManager oder man mount
Axel
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From: krauss@ei.tum.de (Peter Krauss)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Rhapsody DR2
Date: 18 Aug 1998 08:09:16 GMT
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Hallo Jogi,
(Gruss aus Bayern vom geborenen Hamburger)
ich habe keine Probleme gehabt. Hab es laut NeXT answers 1921 mit dd gemacht.
(Steht auch ueber DOS was drin).
gruesse
Peter
In Rhapsody DR2 de.comp.sys.next <ArticleDisplayer: 0x9c5f0> writes,
> Moin!
>
> Die DR2 fuer PC compatibles ist gerade eingetrudelt und habe mir auch die
> Image-Disketten gezogen, jedoch habe ich so meine Zweifel, das RAWRITE das
> alles so richtig gemacht hat, denn die erste Disk ist extrem klein und booten
> kann ich nicht davon, da der DEFAULT.TABLE nicht gefunden wird.
>
> Wird IDE/ATAPI - wie auf den Requirements-Vordruck vermerkt - unterstuetzt oder
> ist das wieder ueberholt?
>
> Mit lieben Gruessen
> aus H a m b u r g
>
> Jogi (Joerg Sievers)
>
> eMail: jogi2@vossnet.de Fido: 2:240/5202.22
> jogi@ncn.fido.de 2:241/250.998
> URL: http://pages.vossnet.de/jogi2/
> * RegSite of O/T *
From: bsmolny@primera.bgc-jena.mpg.de (Bertram Smolny)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: CubX-Lizenz gesucht
Date: 18 Aug 1998 09:26:39 GMT
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moeglichst v 5.0
wer macht ein gutes Angebot ...
;-)
Mit freundlichen Gruessen
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From: "Jörg Brün" <jbruen@evolution.uni-bonn.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: FS: NeXT color station, printer, Macintosh ROM Box
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:45:06 +0200
Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany)
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For sale:
2 x 68040 25 MHz NeXT color station
16 MB RAM, 400 MB hard disk
Non-ADB Sound box, keyboard and mouse
17" color MegaPixel monitor
$ 249,- / 450,- DM
1 x NeXT 400 DPI laser printer
$ 195,- / 350,- DM
2 x QUIX 'daydream' Macintosh hardware / software emulation
incl. Apple System 7.5 engl. or ger. (ROM Box with
Apple Macintosh ROM's installed)
pref. to sell with a complete system
$ 139,- / 250,- DM
--
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Institut für Evolutionsbiologie und Ökologie
An der Immenburg 1, D - 53121 Bonn
Tel.: +49 228 735753
htttp://www.evolution.uni-bonn.de
From: Matthias Waehlisch <mw@fhtw-berlin.de>
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Subject: NIS
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:18:11 +0200
Organization: FHTW-Berlin
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hi,
wei=DF einer von euch, wie man einen Openstep-Rechner an den NIS h=E4ngt
bzw. der NeXT-Rechner seine administrativen daten von diesem bezieht?
cu,
matthias
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NIS
Date: 18 Aug 1998 15:14:04 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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Matthias Waehlisch <mw@fhtw-berlin.de> wrote:
>hi,
>
>wei=DF einer von euch, wie man einen Openstep-Rechner an den NIS h=E4ngt
>bzw. der NeXT-Rechner seine administrativen daten von diesem bezieht?
Ja. Steht im Manual. Siehe 'Mixed Network' in Librarian. Ziemlich
straightforward. Achtung: Du brauchst den Namen der NIS Domain,
das ist in aller Regel etwas anderes als der FQDN.
Rgds, Chris
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Subject: FS:NEXT COMPUTERS and Parts
From: sales@deepspacetech.com (DeepSpace Technologies)
Organization: DeepSpace Technologies
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:24:23 GMT
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We have returned from summer vacations and to start things off we are having
our BACK-TO-SCHOOL special.
COLOR TURBO SYSTEM
17" Color Monitor
16mb RAM
540mb HD
Keyboard
Mouse
Sound Box
Nextstep 3.3 user installed on the HD.
PRICE $249.00
--
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7311 Grove Rd.
Suite A-1
Frederick, MD 21701
Phone: 301-663-3033
Fax : 301-620-9634
<http://www.deepspacetech.com>
From: lozinski@nina.openstepnews.com (Christopher Lozinski)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: WebObjects and OpenStep Jobs in Europe (especially germany)
Date: 19 Aug 1998 06:48:13 GMT
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We know a number of clients in europe seeking WebObjects and OpenStep
developers. The german market is particularly strong. One company offers
stock. Another company is very well planned. A third company is very
focussed on getting a team that works well together. A fourth company will
train you. There is demand in Germany, Italy, France, England, Holland,
Sweden. You name it. Just tell us where you would like to work. Even
within Germany we can place you in multiple different cities. Of course the
more willing you are to relocate, the better the offer we can get you. From
our perspective the european market is even hotter than the US market.
Forget coming over here, the opportunities are in europe.
If you do not like your current environment, we can get you a company that
will treat you much better. If you want money, we can give you a significant
raise. Our clients particularly love developers who are available in less
than three months.
I tell you that the european labor market is undergoing huge changes. You
have a real opportunity to benefit from that. Also by using an american
internet-centric recruiting firm, you will find that we are not as bound by
the traditional structures, and can give your career a much faster boost than
would a traditional european recruiting firm.
Please understand that we have spent a lot of time on the phone in recent
months with european clients, and we do understand the different nature of
the job market over there. We guarentee full confidentiality of your private
information.
We are also interested in being introduced to other hiring managers who are
currently hiring WebObjects/OpenStep developers. If you provide us with
contact information for such a person(ie a hiring manager who is not in our
database already) , then we will pay you $500 dollars for each person we
place with that manager within the next six months. We will pay you as soon
as we get paid. We will pay you in your choice of bank accounts anywhere in
the world.
My apologies that I cannot write in German. Sadly I studied Japanese in
college much longer than I studied German. It seemed like a good idea at the
time, but right now it is the German not Japanese market that is hot.
If you would like to speak on the phone, send me an email, and I will call
you right back. Please note that we are located in California which is 9
hours earlier in the day than Germany, so send us such an email in the
afternoon to evening. ALternatively, we can schedule a time for me to call
you.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Christopher Lozinski
Regards
Christopher Lozinski
lozinski@openstepnews.com
http://www.openstepnews.com/jobmarket.html
1-510-795-6086
1-800-585-1495
From: Thomas_Richter@t-online.de (Thomas Richter)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S:Suche NeXT-Maus
Date: 16 Aug 1998 21:12:20 GMT
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Bin seit kurzem gluecklicher Besitzer einer alten 25MHz Monostation.
Dummerweise kam die ohne das unerläßliche Nagetier. Hat noch jemand
Restbestände, die er für nicht allzuviel Geld an den Mann bringen
will?
Thomas
--------------------------
Thomas Richter
Geiststrasse 56
06108 Halle, Germany
Thomas_Richter@t-online.de
--------------------------
From: tis.gw@t-online.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FCnter?= Westphal)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OpenStep 4.2 und Iomega ZIP 100
Date: 19 Aug 1998 06:14:54 GMT
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Hallo !
Hat irgendjemand eine Ahnung wie man ZIP 100-Medien unter
OpenStep 4.2 im NeXT-Fileformat formatieren kann. Bisher
sind alle Versuch kl"aglich gescheitert; OpenStep gibt
hartn"ackig die lapidare Meldung aus, da"s das Medium
defekt sei -- ist es aber nicht: unter NT l"a"st es sich
problemlos formatieren...
Unter NeXTStep 3.3 hat bisher immer folgender WorkAround
funktioniert: Zuerst das Medium im Macintosh Fileformat
formatieren und dann nochmals mit dem NeXT-Filesystem
formatieren und schon haben wir ein im NeXT-Fileformat
formatiertes ZIP-Medium. Aus irgendwelchen Gr"unden
funktioniert dies unter OpenStep 4.2 NICHT.
Kann mir irgendjemand helfen ???
Danke !
G. Westphal
From: Reinhard Wolf <ge34@mailserv.uni-giessen.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Sammelbestellung DeepspaceTech - Frist 1.September!
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 17:06:04 +0200
Organization: University of Giessen, Germany
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Hallo NeXTies....
ich werde zum 1.9 diesen Jahres eine Sammelbestellung bei DeepSpaceTech in
den USA vornehmen.
Wer irgendwas fuer die alte Station oder Cube brauchen sollte gibt bis
spaetestens 31.8 Bescheid an untenstehende email....
Gruesse
Reinhard
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Reinhard Wolf
Rodheimerstr. 30
35398 Giessen
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.2 und Iomega ZIP 100
Date: 19 Aug 1998 16:11:10 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6reteu$pt0$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <6rdqgu$43e$1@news02.btx.dtag.de>
G?nter Westphal <tis.gw@t-online.de> wrote:
: Hallo !
: Hat irgendjemand eine Ahnung wie man ZIP 100-Medien unter
: OpenStep 4.2 im NeXT-Fileformat formatieren kann. Bisher
: sind alle Versuch kl"aglich gescheitert; OpenStep gibt
: hartn"ackig die lapidare Meldung aus, da"s das Medium
: defekt sei -- ist es aber nicht: unter NT l"a"st es sich
: problemlos formatieren...
Was sagt denn die Console?
--
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kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: Hendrik Wrangel <wrangel@cityweb.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NextStep 3.3 -Installation mit ATAPI CD-LW ?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:25:09 +0100
Organization: Telemedia News Server
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Hi zusammen,
ich versuche gerade NextStep 3.3 mit einem EIDE ATAPI CD Laufwerk zu
installieren.
Nachdem ich von der 1.Diskette gebootet habe, bietet mir das
Installationsprogramm aber nur SCSI-Adapter an, obwohl auf der
"Additional Driver Disk" EIDE-Treiber drauf sind.
Wer kann mir helfen?
From: Hendrik Wrangel <wrangel@cityweb.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NextStep 3.3 -Installation mit ATAPI CD-LW ?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:26:42 +0100
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Hi zusammen,
ich versuche gerade NextStep 3.3 mit einem EIDE ATAPI CD Laufwerk zu
installieren.
Nachdem ich von der 1.Diskette gebootet habe, bietet mir das
Installationsprogramm aber nur SCSI-Adapter an, obwohl auf der
"Additional Driver Disk" EIDE-Treiber drauf sind.
Wer kann mir helfen?
From: Hendrik Wrangel <wrangel@cityweb.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NextStep 3.3 -Installation mit ATAPI CD-LW ?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:27:45 +0100
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Hi zusammen,
ich versuche gerade NextStep 3.3 mit einem EIDE ATAPI CD Laufwerk zu
installieren.
Nachdem ich von der 1.Diskette gebootet habe, bietet mir das
Installationsprogramm aber nur SCSI-Adapter an, obwohl auf der
"Additional Driver Disk" EIDE-Treiber drauf sind.
Wer kann mir helfen?
From: Hendrik Wrangel <wrangel@cityweb.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NextStep 3.3 Installation mit ATAPI-CD LW?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:32:32 +0100
Organization: _
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Hi zusammen,
ich versuche gerade NextStep 3.3 mit einem EIDE ATAPI CD Laufwerk zu
installieren.
Nachdem ich von der 1.Diskette gebootet habe, bietet mir das
Installationsprogramm aber nur SCSI-Adapter an, obwohl auf der
"Additional Driver Disk" EIDE-Treiber drauf sind.
Wer kann mir helfen?
From: Hendrik Wrangel <wrangel@cityweb.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NextStep 3.3 Installation mit ATAPI CD-LW?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:42:31 +0100
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Hi zusammen,
ich versuche gerade NextStep 3.3 mit einem EIDE ATAPI CD Laufwerk zu
installieren.
Nachdem ich von der 1.Diskette gebootet habe, bietet mir das
Installationsprogramm aber nur SCSI-Adapter an, obwohl auf der
"Additional Driver Disk" EIDE-Treiber drauf sind.
Wer kann mir helfen?
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From: Markus Preller <Markus.Preller@rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Wie boote ich von CD ?
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:57:07 +0200
Organization: Rechenzentrum Universitaet Erlangen
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Hi,
ich habe vor kurzem eine Color NeXTStation ergattern koennen,
allerdings ohne Dokus und Handbuecher.
Festplattenmaessig war bis gestern noch eine Quantum Prodrive 210 S
drin, mit welcher die Kiste urspruenglich ausgeliefert wurde.
Nach dem Einbau einer IBM DCAS 2GB wollte ich natuerlich sofort
NeXTStep 3.3 installieren. Nichts leichter als das, dachte ich mir,
schnell
mein Plextor CD-ROM extern angeschlossen, NS 3.3 CD rein, Power up
und Fehlanzeige, kein Booten von CD-ROM.
Nun meine Fragen:
1. Welche SCSI-ID sollte ich der Platte bzw. dem CD-ROM geben ?
(ich hab die Platte momentan auf 1 und das CD-ROM hatte ich
bereits auf 0, 5 und 6)
2. Stimmt es, dass der NeXT immer versucht von der niedrigsten ID zu
booten ?
3. Muss ich mein Plextor CD-ROM im Sun-Modus betreiben (block-size
Jumper setzen) oder sollte es auch im Standard-Modus klappen ?
und
4. Laesst sich die ganze Sache mittels dem ROM Monitor bewaeltigen
(also irgendwas mit bsd(1,0,0) oder so )
Viele Fragen auf einmal .... schon mal vielen Dank im vorraus.
Ciao,
Markus!
From: Martin Mocker -Sopra- <martin.mocker@lycosmail.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: CORBA ORB fuer NeXT ?
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:02:16 +0200
Organization: CS Department, University of Dortmund, Germany
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Hallo,
wei? jemand, ob es eine Corba ORB Implementierung fuer
Openstep gibt ?
Bis denne,
Martin
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From: kmw@ichtys.n-online.de ()
Subject: Monitorprobleme
Sender: usenet@ichtys.n-online.de
Organization: /home, sweet /home
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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 10:33:56 GMT
Hallo, Jungs,
der Moni meiner NS Color geht leider vor die Hunde, wer kennt eine deutsche
Bezugsquelle fuer nen Adapter auf VGA oder BNC?
Gruss
kmw
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Subject: Re: Wie boote ich von CD ?
References: <35DC0F13.45C60093@rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35dc2e5e.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 20 Aug 98 14:10:38 GMT
Markus Preller <Markus.Preller@rrze.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
---snip---
>Nach dem Einbau einer IBM DCAS 2GB wollte ich natuerlich sofort
>NeXTStep 3.3 installieren. Nichts leichter als das, dachte ich mir,
>schnell
>mein Plextor CD-ROM extern angeschlossen, NS 3.3 CD rein, Power up
>und Fehlanzeige, kein Booten von CD-ROM.
>
>Nun meine Fragen:
>
> 1. Welche SCSI-ID sollte ich der Platte bzw. dem CD-ROM geben ?
> (ich hab die Platte momentan auf 1 und das CD-ROM hatte ich
> bereits auf 0, 5 und 6)
lass das CD-ROM auf 5 oder 6 und die Platte ruhig auf 1.
> 2. Stimmt es, dass der NeXT immer versucht von der niedrigsten ID zu
>
> booten ?
Im Prinzip ja (Erewan), stimmt aber nicht fuer CD-ROM.
> 3. Muss ich mein Plextor CD-ROM im Sun-Modus betreiben (block-size
> Jumper setzen) oder sollte es auch im Standard-Modus klappen ?
>
Niemals. Nur im Standardmodus. Den verkorksten Modus haben nur SUN und DEC
hinbekommen.
>
> 4. Laesst sich die ganze Sache mittels dem ROM Monitor bewaeltigen
> (also irgendwas mit bsd(1,0,0) oder so )
Mit 3.0 habe ich das mal hinbekommen. 3.3 weiss ich nicht, aber: bei den
3.3CDs sollte auch eine Bootdiskette dabei sein. Zum Installieren einfach die
Diskette ins Laufwerk, die CD ins Laufwerk alles einschalten und in den
boot-Monitor kommen (nach der Einschaltmeldung rechte CMD und ~
(amerikanische Tastatur, oder einfach die linkeste, obere Taste des
Nummernblocks). Dann "bfd" eingeben. Bootet von Floppy und anschliessend von
CD, dann ist alles selbsterklaerend.
(Wieder ein NeXTler mehr :-))
Tschuess
Sven
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From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S:Suche QUIX daydream Mac hardware/software Emulation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 16:58:06 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
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Ich suche die "Daydream Mac hardware/software Emulation" von Quix.
Angebote bitte an vkyr@lavielle.com senden!
Valentino
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: CORBA ORB fuer NeXT ?
Date: 20 Aug 1998 15:15:18 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / CC
Distribution: world
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References: <35DC1E58.64B0@lycosmail.com>
In article <35DC1E58.64B0@lycosmail.com> Martin Mocker -Sopra-
<martin.mocker@lycosmail.com> writes:
> wei? jemand, ob es eine Corba ORB Implementierung fuer
> Openstep gibt ?
Orbix von Iona ? Auf Anhieb habe ich das hier gefunden.
http://www-usa.iona.com/news/pressroom/NeXT.html
Ist etwas veraltet, die Mitteilung, aber bereits NeXT
slebst hat im Zusammenhang mit Fragen nach CORBA immer
auf die "third party products" von Iona verwiesen wenn
ich mich recht entsinne.
Detlev
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Drop the "Drop_This." part in my Email-address to reply.
From: holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: CORBA ORB fuer NeXT ?
Date: 20 Aug 1998 22:18:40 GMT
Organization: The secret circle of the NSRC
Distribution: world
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Detlev Droege wrote:
> Orbix von Iona ? Auf Anhieb habe ich das hier gefunden.
> http://www-usa.iona.com/news/pressroom/NeXT.html
>
> Ist etwas veraltet, die Mitteilung, aber bereits NeXT
> slebst hat im Zusammenhang mit Fragen nach CORBA immer
> auf die "third party products" von Iona verwiesen wenn
> ich mich recht entsinne.
Das gilt aber selbstredend nur für Windows, weil: 'was anderes benutzt
doch niemand'. Der IONA ORB existiert übrigens bei Apple in-house für
RDR.. :-/
Holger
From: Dirk Erdmann <d.erdmann@tu-bs.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: CORBA ORB fuer NeXT ?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 07:55:42 +0200
Organization: Siemens AG
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Den ORB "OAK" der Firma Paragon gibt es neben einer Vielzahl anderer
Systeme für NeXTSTEP und OPENSTEP.
http://www.paragon-software.com/products/oak/
Gruß,
Dirk
___________________________________
d.erdmann@tu-bs.de NeXTMail welcome!
Martin Mocker -Sopra- wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> wei? jemand, ob es eine Corba ORB Implementierung fuer
> Openstep gibt ?
>
> Bis denne,
>
> Martin
>
From: Robert Fischer <fischer@fokus.gmd.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: CORBA ORB fuer NeXT ?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:46:52 +0200
Organization: GMD FOKUS
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Detlev Droege wrote:
>
> In article <35DC1E58.64B0@lycosmail.com> Martin Mocker -Sopra-
> <martin.mocker@lycosmail.com> writes:
>
> > wei? jemand, ob es eine Corba ORB Implementierung fuer
> > Openstep gibt ?
>
> Orbix von Iona ? Auf Anhieb habe ich das hier gefunden.
> http://www-usa.iona.com/news/pressroom/NeXT.html
Und da gibt's dann noch den OAK ORB von
"http://www.paragon-software.com/", den man als Evaluation
Copy kostenlos bekommt.
Von Erfahrungen kann ich leider nicht berichten.
Gruß, Robert
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From: Helge Hess <hh@mdlink.de>
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Subject: Re: CORBA ORB fuer NeXT ?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 11:45:25 +0200
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Martin Mocker -Sopra- wrote:
>
> Hallo,
>
> wei? jemand, ob es eine Corba ORB Implementierung fuer
> Openstep gibt ?
Sicher, schau mal auf
http://www.paragon-software.com/
OAK gibt es fuer NeXTstep, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody, Solaris, ...
Tschaui
Helge
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From: marsu@cs.tu-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann)
Newsgroups: bln.archiv,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Neu auf dem Berliner NeXT-Archiv (21-Aug-98)
Date: 21 Aug 1998 10:17:23 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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To: beng@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de
Neu auf dem NeXT-FTP-Archiv der BeNG (ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT):
20543 May 19 08:22 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/admin/apps/OmniCPUMonitor-1.1-RDR2-PI.tar.gz
39841 Aug 7 16:55 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/admin/apps/UPspeed-0.4.b.PI.tar.gz
85797 Aug 18 07:41 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/apps/OmniCD-beta3-DR2-IP.tar.gz
7851 Aug 18 07:42 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/apps/OmniCDAudio-beta3-DR2-IP.tar.gz
2491632 Aug 18 07:41 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/apps/OmniCDFrameworks-beta3-DR2-IP.tar.gz
3826045 Jul 27 07:55 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/languages/gcc-i386.2.8.1.2.I.b.tar.gz
1245 Jul 27 07:53 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/languages/gcc-i386.2.8.1.2.README
56025 Jul 28 02:29 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/unix/class-dump-2.1.2-PI-bs.tar.gz
56578 Dec 8 1997 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/unix/class-dump.2.1.1.PI.bs.tar.gz
3553 Dec 8 1997 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/unix/class-dump.2.1.1.README
68069 Dec 8 1997 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/unix/class-dump.2.1.1.m.NIS.bs.tar.gz
81993 Jul 28 02:27 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/unix/class-dump.2.1.2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
4664 Jul 28 02:27 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/unix/class-dump.2.1.2.README
51030 Aug 3 02:37 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/games/apps/NPipe-2.0-PI-b.tar.gz
1797 Aug 3 02:37 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/games/apps/NPipe-2.0-PI-b.tar.gz.README
1203401 Aug 20 05:09 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/PDFView.2.1.m.IP.b.tar.gz
922134 Jul 29 14:57 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/commercial/Slider-0.9-PI-b.tar.gz
4486 Jul 29 15:00 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/commercial/Slider-0.9.README
672256 Aug 12 18:04 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/PopOver.2.0.126b-RDR-PI.tar.gz
1291 Aug 12 18:36 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/PopOver.2.0.126b-RDR2-PI.README
757503 Aug 12 18:37 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/PopOver.2.0.126b-RDR2-PI.tar.gz
1291 Aug 12 18:33 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/PopOver.2.0.126b-RDR2-w-I.README
622133 Aug 12 18:36 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/PopOver.2.0.126b-RDR2-w-I.tar.gz
196198 Aug 12 19:31 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/mailapp-utilities-2.2-PI.bs.tar.gz
13659 Aug 13 09:05 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/mailapp-utilities-2.2.README
287207 Aug 12 19:29 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/mailapp-utilities.2.2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
13659 Aug 12 19:32 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/apps/mailapp-utilities.2.2.README
76277 Jul 28 13:11 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/libs/Cryptor.2.3.bundle.NI.bs.tar.gz
1766 Jul 28 13:10 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/libs/Cryptor.2.3.bundle.README
285196 Jul 16 17:48 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/libs/EnhanceMail_French.lproj.2.2p1.d.pkg.tar.gz
109385 Aug 12 19:35 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/libs/MailboxInspector.1.2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
4461 Aug 12 19:36 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/libs/MailboxInspector.1.2.README
1681162 Aug 8 18:08 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/unix/sendmail.8.9.1.NI.b.tar.gz
1521 Aug 8 18:00 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/unix/sendmail.8.9.1.NI.b.tar.gz.README
2901599 Aug 7 17:41 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/unix/sendmail.8.9.1.NI.bs.tar.gz
1740 Aug 7 17:17 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/unix/sendmail.8.9.1.NI.bs.tar.gz.README
588214 Jul 22 10:06 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/ssh-1.2.26.1-PI-b.tar.gz
582011 Jul 22 10:06 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/ssh-1.2.26.1-s.tar.gz
2517 Jul 22 10:06 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/ssh-1.2.26.1.README
1126877 Jul 22 09:50 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/ssh.1.2.26.1.NIS.b.tar.gz
2641 Jul 22 09:49 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/ssh.1.2.26.1.README
582011 Jul 22 09:50 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/ssh.1.2.26.1.s.tar.gz
18579 Aug 6 22:01 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/apps/BetterConsole-1.0-s.tar.gz
53552 Aug 20 21:00 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/apps/BetterConsole-1.0.1-rPI-b.tar.gz
2844 Aug 20 20:59 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/apps/BetterConsole-1.0.1.README
1144 Aug 6 22:01 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/apps/BetterConsole-1.0.README
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>> Why should I tidy my room, when the whole world is in a mess ??? <<
From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NextStep 3.3 -Installation mit ATAPI CD-LW ?
Date: 21 Aug 1998 10:50:16 GMT
Organization: POP Point of Presence GmbH, Hamburg, Germany (http://www.pop.de)
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> Nachdem ich von der 1.Diskette gebootet habe, bietet mir das
> Installationsprogramm aber nur SCSI-Adapter an, obwohl auf der
> "Additional Driver Disk" EIDE-Treiber drauf sind.
Die erste Frage im Installationsprogramm bezieht sich auf den Adapter. Dort
kannst Du irgendeinen nehmen (oder speziell der Adaptec 2940, o hab ich das
immer gemacht).
Danach fragt Dich das Installationsprogramm nach dem Installationsmedium.
An der Stelle kannst Du den EIDE-Treiber von der Additional-Disk laden. Der
Adaptec-Controller wird im weiteren Verlauf der Installation ignoriert.
Gruss
Stephan
From: "Ommadawn" <ommadawn64@geocities.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: NeXT color station, printer, Macintosh ROM Box
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:49:25 +0100
Organization: Virgin Net Usenet Service
Message-ID: <6rn38c$bmf$1@nclient1-gui.server.virgin.net>
References: <35D98562.4DC45195@evolution.uni-bonn.de>
Jörg,
Have you sold this gear yet?
If not, please e-mail me.
ommadawn64@geocities.com
Jörg Brün wrote in message <35D98562.4DC45195@evolution.uni-bonn.de>...
>For sale:
>
>2 x 68040 25 MHz NeXT color station
> 16 MB RAM, 400 MB hard disk
> Non-ADB Sound box, keyboard and mouse
> 17" color MegaPixel monitor
> $ 249,- / 450,- DM
>
>1 x NeXT 400 DPI laser printer
> $ 195,- / 350,- DM
>
>2 x QUIX 'daydream' Macintosh hardware / software emulation
> incl. Apple System 7.5 engl. or ger. (ROM Box with
> Apple Macintosh ROM's installed)
> pref. to sell with a complete system
> $ 139,- / 250,- DM
>
>--
>Jörg Brün
>Institut für Evolutionsbiologie und Ökologie
>An der Immenburg 1, D - 53121 Bonn
>Tel.: +49 228 735753
>htttp://www.evolution.uni-bonn.de
>
>
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Wie boote ich von CD ?
Message-ID: <Ey36uy.FqM@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
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References: <35dc2e5e.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:37:46 GMT
In article <35dc2e5e.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> writes:
Markus Preller <Markus.Preller@rrze.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
...munch...
> >
> > 4. Laesst sich die ganze Sache mittels dem ROM Monitor bewaeltigen
> > (also irgendwas mit bsd(1,0,0) oder so )
> Mit 3.0 habe ich das mal hinbekommen. 3.3 weiss ich nicht, aber:
> bei den 3.3CDs sollte auch eine Bootdiskette dabei sein. Zum
> Installieren einfach die Diskette ins Laufwerk, die CD ins Laufwerk
> alles einschalten und in den boot-Monitor kommen (nach der
> Einschaltmeldung rechte CMD und ~ (amerikanische Tastatur, oder
> einfach die linkeste, obere Taste des Nummernblocks). Dann "bfd"
> eingeben. Bootet von Floppy und anschliessend von CD, dann ist
> alles selbsterklaerend.
>
Die Boot-Floppy ist fuer alle ausser die allerletzten ADB-Systeme Pflicht
weil der Bootcode auf dem ROM nicht mit der 2k-Blockung auf der CD klar
kommt. Die Floppy ist deshalb auch leer wenn man sie sich ansieht. Sie
enthaelt nur ein BSD-Filesystem mit einem Boot-Block in der Front Porch,
der die Treiber fuer die 2K-Blockung nachlaedt und dann die CD anspricht.
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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 08:59:14 +0200
From: jogi@ncn.fido.de (Joerg Sievers)
Subject: NextStep 3.3 -Installation mit ATAPI CD-LW ?
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Moin Hendrik!
Antwort auf eine Message von Hendrik Wrangel an All:
HW> ich versuche gerade NextStep 3.3 mit einem EIDE ATAPI CD Laufwerk zu
HW> installieren.
Hehe....welcome to the club.
HW> Nachdem ich von der 1.Diskette gebootet habe, bietet mir das
HW> Installationsprogramm aber nur SCSI-Adapter an, obwohl auf der
HW> "Additional Driver Disk" EIDE-Treiber drauf sind.
HW> Wer kann mir helfen?
Zuerst IRGENDEINEN (am Besten nen Adaptec 1940 oder so) SCSI-Treiber nehmen und
dann weitere Treiber Laden.
Dann laedst Du die ATAPI/EIDE - Treiber zusaetzlich. Ich habe eine
Extra-Diskette wo ATAPI-Treiber von Nextanswer drauf sind. Mit nur den IDE
meinte ich, das ich Probleme hatte....
Wenn Du mit Option "-v" bootest siehst Du dann, das er den Adaptec natuerlich
nicht findet, aber ATAPI-Drives detected er dann :)
Mit lieben Gruessen
aus H a m b u r g
Jogi (Joerg Sievers)
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* RegSite of O/T *
From: "Mike" <sandman@SPAMSUCKStwcny.rr.com>
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Subject: Re: NeXT color station, printer, Macintosh ROM Box
Message-ID: <%l3E1.93$Iz1.149285@newse1.twcny.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 01:29:31 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 21:29:31 EDT
Organization: TWC Road Runner
Not to sound dumb..but for the most part I know nothing about NeXT hardware
and just lurk in here..but what is this Quix mac stuff? My *guess* is that
it has the mac boot roms, etc. in it, so you can run mac software on NeXT
hardware. Correct? Or not? Could someone please explain? I'm curious =)
-Mike
Ommadawn <ommadawn64@geocities.com> wrote in message
6rn38c$bmf$1@nclient1-gui.server.virgin.net...
>Jörg,
>
>Have you sold this gear yet?
>
>If not, please e-mail me.
>
>ommadawn64@geocities.com
>
>Jörg Brün wrote in message <35D98562.4DC45195@evolution.uni-bonn.de>...
>>For sale:
>>
>>2 x 68040 25 MHz NeXT color station
>> 16 MB RAM, 400 MB hard disk
>> Non-ADB Sound box, keyboard and mouse
>> 17" color MegaPixel monitor
>> $ 249,- / 450,- DM
>>
>>1 x NeXT 400 DPI laser printer
>> $ 195,- / 350,- DM
>>
>>2 x QUIX 'daydream' Macintosh hardware / software emulation
>> incl. Apple System 7.5 engl. or ger. (ROM Box with
>> Apple Macintosh ROM's installed)
>> pref. to sell with a complete system
>> $ 139,- / 250,- DM
>>
>>--
>>Jörg Brün
>>Institut für Evolutionsbiologie und Ökologie
>>An der Immenburg 1, D - 53121 Bonn
>>Tel.: +49 228 735753
>>htttp://www.evolution.uni-bonn.de
>>
>>
>
>
From: mike@inis.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: POS1-Taste zum Ausschalten des Rechners deaktivieren
Date: 25 Aug 98 14:59:30 GMT
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moin zusammen,
ich komme aus der MS-DOS welt (bitte um Verzeihung) und hab mich da an
gewisse tasten zur cursorsteuerung gewoehnt, die mir unter openstep
regelmaessig zum verhaengnis werden. hasskandidat nummer 1 ist hierbei die
pos1-taste, deshalb meine frage:
hat jemand eine idee wie man die pos1-taste so belegen kann, dass sie nicht
den rechner runterfaehrt? ich bins gewohnt in einer textanwendung mit pos1
zum anfang einer zeile zu gelangen. das ist mir so in fleisch und blut
uebergegangen, dass ich gar nicht mehr hinschaue was passiert und druecke
dann return um eine neue zeile einzufuegen. tja und dann kann ich erstmal
warten bis openstep runtergefahren ist....
vielleicht hat jemand von euch ein aehnliches prob und es hoffentlich auch
schoen geloest. wuerde mich freuen davon zu hoeren
thanks mike
From: Robert Fischer <fischer@fokus.gmd.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: POS1-Taste zum Ausschalten des Rechners deaktivieren
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:25:41 +0200
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mike@inis.de wrote:
> ...
> hat jemand eine idee wie man die pos1-taste so belegen kann, dass sie nicht
> den rechner runterfaehrt? ich bins gewohnt in einer textanwendung mit pos1
> zum anfang einer zeile zu gelangen. das ist mir so in fleisch und blut
> uebergegangen, dass ich gar nicht mehr hinschaue was passiert und druecke
> dann return um eine neue zeile einzufuegen. tja und dann kann ich erstmal
> warten bis openstep runtergefahren ist....
Du kannst die Belegung der Taste aendern, leider kennt OPENSTEP nicht sowas
wie Pos1 (dumm eigentlich).
Tastaturbelegungen aendert man mit Keyboard.app, das sich bei mir in
/NextDeveloper/Demos findet. Dort kannst Du - ausgehend von der von Dir
verwendeten Tastatur - eine neue Belegung einrichten, die Du dann in
~/Library/Keyboards ablegst und in 'Preferences' einstellen kannst.
Gruss, Robert
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: POS1-Taste zum Ausschalten des Rechners deaktivieren
Date: 26 Aug 1998 08:14:16 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development
Message-ID: <6s0g4o$4hp@alice.turbocat.de>
References: <35e2d152.0@m3-hh-alpha.03.net> <35E2D775.D1183C03@fokus.gmd.de>
Robert Fischer <fischer@fokus.gmd.de> wrote:
>mike@inis.de wrote:
>> ...
>> hat jemand eine idee wie man die pos1-taste so belegen kann, dass sie
nicht
>> den rechner runterfaehrt? ich bins gewohnt in einer textanwendung mit pos1
>> zum anfang einer zeile zu gelangen. das ist mir so in fleisch und blut
>> uebergegangen, dass ich gar nicht mehr hinschaue was passiert und druecke
>> dann return um eine neue zeile einzufuegen. tja und dann kann ich erstmal
>> warten bis openstep runtergefahren ist....
>
>Du kannst die Belegung der Taste aendern, leider kennt OPENSTEP nicht sowas
>wie Pos1 (dumm eigentlich).
So? Und was ist
CTRL-A
CTRL-E
CTRL-D
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From: Stefan Geisler <insg@rz.tu-clausthal.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Suche DTP-Prog fuer NS3.3 (Intel)
Date: 26 Aug 1998 11:04:47 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der TU Clausthal
Message-ID: <6s0q4f$o2i$1@methusalix.rz.tu-clausthal.de>
User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980818 ("Laura") (UNIX) (SunOS/5.6 (sun4u))
Hallo!
Ich suche ein DTP-Programm fuer Nextstep 3.3 Intel. Es kann neu oder gebraucht sein,
sollte aber nicht allzuviel Geld kosten, z.B. Studentenversion.
Wer Hinweise hat oder gar eines verkaufen moechte, melde sich bitte!
Vielen Dank
Stefan Geisler
From: Reinhard Wolf <ge34@mailserv.uni-giessen.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Wer braucht was? DST Sammelbestellung
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:12:07 +0200
Organization: University of Giessen, Germany
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Hola NeXTies,
die willkuerlich von mir auf den 1.9 gesetzte Frist fuer eine
Sammelbestellung bei DeepSpaceTech lauft so allmaehlich ab.
Die Resonanz ist erschreckend... habt Ihr etwa schon alle alles??
Also hier nochmal der Aufruf an all diejenigen, die sich vielleicht noch
ein paar Ersatzteile fuer ne alternde Station oder nen Cube auf Lager
legen wollen....
Schickt mir einfach ne email mit alldem, was euch in euren NeXT-Traeumen
noch so vorschwebt - ich frag dann Shannon nach dem Preis...
Gruesse
Reinhard
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From: Markus Preller <Markus.Preller@rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Color Station an Eizo T560
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:27:06 +0200
Organization: Rechenzentrum Universitaet Erlangen
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Hi,
ich habe das Problem, dass mein Original-Monitor (17" Moni von SGI)
wohl bald das Zeitliche segnen wird. An und fuer sich waere das nicht so
tragisch, da ich noch einen Eizo T560 in Reserve habe. Allerdings
besitzt
jener keinen 13W3 Anschluss sondern nur einen BNC- bzw. VGA-Anschluss.
Kennt hier jemand eine Moeglichkeit, wie ich meinen Eizo dennoch an die
Station kriege ?
Bei Deepspacetech habe ich zwei Teile gefunden, mit denen es eigentlich
klappen muesste. Hat jemand mit den folgenden Artikeln schon Erfahrung
gesammelt ?
1. BNC1 BNC video adapter for Next
2. 13W3F 13w3 female to HD 15pin female
Falls jemand andere Moeglichkeiten kennt, darf er/sie sie mir natuerlich
auch
zukommen lassen.
Zudem graust mir ein wenig vor der Bestellung jenseits des grossen
Teiches.
Ach ja, Antworten bitte an meine E-Mail:
Markus.Preller@rrze.uni-erlangen.de
Danke!
Ciao,
Markus!
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Color Station an Eizo T560
Date: 27 Aug 1998 11:24:05 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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Markus Preller <Markus.Preller@rrze.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
>
>Bei Deepspacetech habe ich zwei Teile gefunden, mit denen es eigentlich
>klappen muesste. Hat jemand mit den folgenden Artikeln schon Erfahrung
>gesammelt ?
>
>1. BNC1 BNC video adapter for Next
>2. 13W3F 13w3 female to HD 15pin female
Ja, hab ich gekauft, funzt tadellos. Kann man natuerlich auch selber
bauen, ist eine Frage des Tradeoffs zwischen Geld und Zeit. :-)
Man kann dann evetuell den Monitor noch ein bi3chen weiter
aufziehen, dann sieht es hervorragend aus.
>Zudem graust mir ein wenig vor der Bestellung jenseits des grossen
>Teiches.
Setz dich doch mit Reinhard Wolf in Verbindung, der bestellt
demnext dort.
>Ach ja, Antworten bitte an meine E-Mail:
>Markus.Preller@rrze.uni-erlangen.de
Rein aus Prinzip nicht. Wenn wir uns die Muehe machen, Fragen
zu beantworten, musst du dir die Muehe machen, die Antwort im
USENET zu lesen. No such thing as a free lunch.
Rgds, Chris
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From: ahoesch@smartsoft.de (Andreas Hoeschler)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Wissenschaftliche Textverarbeitung fuer OPENSTEP
Date: 27 Aug 1998 12:09:02 GMT
Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V.
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Hi,
wir sind eine kleine Softwareschmiede im norddeutschen Raum und planen zeitgleich
mit Erscheinen von Rhapsody (vielleicht ein paar Wochen spaeter) ein
wissenschaftliches Dokumentationssystem für OPENSTEP mit den folgenden
Eigenschaften auf den Markt zu bringen.
Š Formeln lassen sich ohne zusaetzliches Tool direkt in den Text einfuegen
(blitzschnell ueber die Tastatur) und erscheinen in Echtzeit auf dem Schirm
(WYSIWYG - TeX like)
Š Dokumente koennen sowohl in Files (nur zum Austausch via email sinnvoll) als auch
in einer Datenbank (default) gespeichert werden. Dies ermoeglicht durch Angabe
eines Titles, eines Autors oder was auch immer das benoetigte Dokument innerhalb
eines Augenblicks aus einer Menge von vielen tausend Dokumenten herauszusuchen und
zu oeffnen.
Š Dokumente koennen ueber Hyperlinks miteinander verknueft werden. Wer also fuer
eine Ableitung gerade mal die Divergenz in Kugelkoordinaten benoetigt, der markiert
einfach ein Stueck Text im aktuellen Dokument und belegt es mit einem Link auf das
Dokument, in dem die Divergenz Beziehungen abgeleitet wurde. Beim spaeteren Lesen
des Dokumentes genügt ein Klick auch den hellblau leuchtenden Link und die
Divergenz-Ableitung erscheint in einem weiteren Fenster.
Š Dokumente lassen sich in RTF-Files speichern, wobei die Formeln nach EPS
konvertiert werden. Mit Hilfe von z.B. LatinByrd lassen sich Dokumente innerhalb
von Sekunden für eine Veroeffentlichung im WEB nach HTML umwandeln (inkl. der EPS
-> GIF Konvertierung)
Es ist ueberdies geplant, Mailing-Listen fuer verschiedene Fachbereiche
- Klassische Mechanik
- Elektrodynamik
- Quantenmechanik
.
anzulegen, in denen dann keine ASCII-Texte, sondern eben mathematische Dokumente
mit hohem Formelanteil ausgetauscht werden koennen.
Eine fruehe Beta-Version des oben beschrieben Systems für NIS liegt auf
http://www.smartsoft.de
zum Download bereit. Es sind bisher nur wenige FormelParts implementiert, so dass
sich das System noch nicht fuer ernsthafte Arbeiten eignet. Wir moechten trotzdem
interessierte User ermutigen, dass System zu testen und Vorschlaege fuer die
weitere Entwicklung einzureichen.
Mit frendlichen Gruessen
Andreas Hoeschler
Smartsoft Development
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Benoetige Sybase Administrator v.4.0.2 Programm f. NS3.3
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:49:25 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
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Hallo,
mir ist das Sybase "Administrator" tool (program) fuer die Sybase Datenbank
abhanden gekommen.
Koennte jemand so nett sein und mir die "Administrator Version
4.0.2/P/NeXT/1.0/4" via Email (als uuencoded ...tar.gz) zusenden, oder mir
alternativ eine Location nennen wo ich dieses uebers Netz herunterladen kann???
Ach ja, ich benötige es fuer NS 3.3 als black binary Version!
Danke fuer jegliche Hilfe!
Gruss Valentino
--
Valentino Kyriakides
mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com (no NeXTmail here)
From: tis.gw@t-online.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FCnter?= Westphal)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.2 und Iomega ZIP 100
Date: 25 Aug 1998 05:41:29 GMT
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To: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Axel Habermann wrote:
>
> G?nter Westphal <tis.gw@t-online.de> wrote:
> : Hallo !
>
> : Hat irgendjemand eine Ahnung wie man ZIP 100-Medien unter
> : OpenStep 4.2 im NeXT-Fileformat formatieren kann. Bisher
> : sind alle Versuch kl"aglich gescheitert; OpenStep gibt
> : hartn"ackig die lapidare Meldung aus, da"s das Medium
> : defekt sei -- ist es aber nicht: unter NT l"a"st es sich
> : problemlos formatieren...
>
> Was sagt denn die Console?
>
Versuche ich, da"s ZIP-Medium im Macintosh Fileformat zu formatieren,
wird in der Konsole folgendes angezeigt:
/usr/filesystems/mac.fs/mac.util -i sd2 "ZIP" removable
device=/dev/rsdh2 block size = 512 capacity = 96 MBytes
Disk Format in progress...
...Retrying with cdb->fc_dlf = FMTD_INDEX
...rtn = 0(d) dr_io_status = 0H
Format command failed
ioctl(SDIOCSRQ): I/O error
***FORMAT UNIT COMMAND FAILED***
ioctl(SDIOCSRQ) : I/O error
mac.util: fs_intialize: format failed
fs_initialize: Error 0
Versuche ich's dann mit dem NeXT-Filesystem erscheint folgendes:
/usr/etc/disk -i -h nardis -l "ZIP" /dev/rsd2a
disk name: IOMEGA ZIP 100 J.0205/1
disk type: removable_rw_scsi
writing disk label
can't write disk label -- disk is unusable!: I/O error
Danke und Ciao
G"unter Westphal
From: Markus Preller <Markus.Preller@rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Color Station an Eizo T560
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:59:37 +0200
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen, Germany
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Christian Neuss wrote:
> >
> >1. BNC1 BNC video adapter for Next
> >2. 13W3F 13w3 female to HD 15pin female
>
> Ja, hab ich gekauft, funzt tadellos. Kann man natuerlich auch selber
> bauen, ist eine Frage des Tradeoffs zwischen Geld und Zeit. :-)
> Man kann dann evetuell den Monitor noch ein bi3chen weiter
> aufziehen, dann sieht es hervorragend aus.
> ...
>
Welches von den beiden Teilen ?BNC1 oder 13W3F, ich nehme an letzteres.
> ...
> Setz dich doch mit Reinhard Wolf in Verbindung, der bestellt
> demnext dort.
> ...
Ist mir bekannt :-)
> ...
> Rein aus Prinzip nicht. Wenn wir uns die Muehe machen, Fragen
> zu beantworten, musst du dir die Muehe machen, die Antwort im
> USENET zu lesen. No such thing as a free lunch.
Kann ich verstehen.
Danke auf jeden Fall.
Ciao,
Markus!
From: gloger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Jochen Gloger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NEXTSTEP3.3 Motherboard upgrade Problem
Date: 27 Aug 1998 15:35:49 GMT
Organization: debis Network Services GmbH
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Hallo,
ich habe gerade von meinem alten Pentium pro 200 MHz GigaByte-Motherboard auf
ein 400 MHz Motherboard derselben Firma (Gigabyte) aufgerüstet (plus neuem
Prozessor). Das Problem war nun, daß der Rechner nicht mehr gebootet hat,
weil laut Bios keine aktive Partition auf der Harddisk vorhanden war. Mit dem
200 MHz Board hatte ich diese Probleme nicht. Ich konnte das Problem nur
durch Umkopieren der bisher benutzten Platte auf eine andere Platte, auf der
ich mit NEXTSTEP's fdisk Programm entsprechende Partionen eingerichtet habe,
lösen. Offensichtlich hat man bei Gigabyte das BIOS umgeschrieben, denn das
BIOS vom alten Board hat sich nur auf den MBR konzentriert. Es sei angemerkt,
daß mit fdisk auf der alten Platte auch tatsächlich keine Partition
eingetragen war. Scheinbar hält NEXTSTEP das nicht für unbedingt nötig.
Frage: Ich werde in Zukunft wahrscheinlich mehrere Rechner hochrüsten müssen
und möchte mir natürlich die Umkopiererei der Platte ersparen. Gibt es ein
Pentium-II Motherboard, das nicht nach einer aktiven Partition auf der
Harddisk sucht, sondern sich ausschließlich an den MBR hält, oder gibt es
eine andere Möglichkeit zerstörungsfrei eine Platte nachträglich zu
partitionieren, sodaß man die Anforderungen des BIOS auf diese Weise erfüllen
kann?
Gruß
Jochen
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Color Station an Eizo T560
Date: 27 Aug 1998 16:04:55 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6s4037$416$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <35E50A4A.C164229@rrze.uni-erlangen.de> <6s3fkl$cmi$3@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <35E57458.B845C2D2@rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
Markus Preller <Markus.Preller@rrze.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
>Christian Neuss wrote:
>> >1. BNC1 BNC video adapter for Next
>> >2. 13W3F 13w3 female to HD 15pin female
>>
>> Ja, hab ich gekauft, funzt tadellos. Kann man natuerlich auch selber
>> bauen, ist eine Frage des Tradeoffs zwischen Geld und Zeit. :-)
>> Man kann dann evetuell den Monitor noch ein bi3chen weiter
>> aufziehen, dann sieht es hervorragend aus.
>Welches von den beiden Teilen ?BNC1 oder 13W3F, ich nehme an letzteres.
Ich hab den BNC Adapter, die meisten anstaendigen Monitore haben
BNC Anschluesse, und die Qualitaet ist etwas besser. Ich gehe
aber fest davon aus, dass der andere genauso gut geht, das Prinzip
ist ja dasselbe.
Viele Gruesse, Chris
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From: bsmolny@primera.bgc-jena.mpg.de (Bertram Smolny)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Suche CubX V5.0 !
Date: 27 Aug 1998 16:16:15 GMT
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
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Ich suche immer noch ganz dringend nach einer CubX-Lizenz fur Intel.
Wer hat so was zu verkaufen ...
Mit freundlichen Gruessen
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From: Peer Sandtner <Peer_Sandtner@public.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Modemkabel fuer schwarzen Next
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:00:36 -0700
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Hallo!
Ich braucher leider ein neues Modem-Kabel fuer eine 68040er Turbo Color
Station. Es ist hierbei wichtig, dass das Modem dann mit der
NXFax-Software funktioniert. Das soll heissen, dass es *evtl.* nicht mit
einem normalen Apple Modem-Kabel gehen *soll* (hab ich irgenwo
gelesen...)
Kann mit jemand einen Tip geben, wo ich so ein Kabel kaufen kann - sonst
muss ich versuchen eins zu bauen...
Gruss
Peer
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Modemkabel fuer schwarzen Next
Date: 28 Aug 1998 12:03:27 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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Peer Sandtner <Peer_Sandtner@public.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
>Ich braucher leider ein neues Modem-Kabel fuer eine 68040er Turbo Color
>Station. Es ist hierbei wichtig, dass das Modem dann mit der
>NXFax-Software funktioniert. Das soll heissen, dass es *evtl.* nicht mit
>einem normalen Apple Modem-Kabel gehen *soll* (hab ich irgenwo
>gelesen...)
Normalerweise nicht, wegen fehlendem HW Handshake. Entweder du bastelst
dir eines anhand der Anweisungen im FAQ (Peanuts) oder bestellst mit
Reinhards naechster Sammelbestellung.
Chris
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From: Helge Hess <hh@mdlink.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: CapsLock vs Ctrl
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:29:48 +0200
Organization: MDlink online service center
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Hallo,
weiss jemand von einer Moeglichkeit auf einem G3-Mac unter Rhapsody DR2
die Ctrl-Taste auf die Caps-Lock Taste umzulegen ?
Die NeXT-USA Tastatur funktioniert jedenfalls nicht mehr so wie frueher
:-(
Tschaui
Helge
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Subject: FS:TURBO CUBE DIMENSION SYSTEMS
From: sales@deepspacetech.com (DeepSpace Technologies)
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:24:03 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:24:03 EDT
We have just received a shipment of Next equipment. We have approximately 6
Turbo Cube Dimension Systems forsale. Configs are as follows:
Turbo Cube Dimension Systems(33mhz)
32/32 540mb HD
17" Sony Trinitron Monitor
ADB or NON ADB(YOUR CHOICE)
Keyboard
Mouse
Sound Box
Cables
Release 3.3 user installed on the HD only.
Price each $1995.00
Get your collection before it's too late!!!
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From: Nils Hott <soz96hxw@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NeXTstation als Router?
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 20:18:27 +0200
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Hallo,
ist es moeglich, die beiden Ethernet-Anschluesse einer station
gleichzeitig zu benutzen, um die Maschine als Router einzusetzen?
Gruss, Nils :-)
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXTstation als Router?
Date: 29 Aug 1998 01:40:48 GMT
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Nils Hott <soz96hxw@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>ist es moeglich, die beiden Ethernet-Anschluesse einer station
>gleichzeitig zu benutzen, um die Maschine als Router einzusetzen?
Meine Stations haben alle nur ein Netzinterface. BNC oder TP ist in etwa so,
als wenn Du zwei Trinkhalme in das gleiche Glas steckst.
(Mit dem Unterschied dass das mit dem Glas geht ;-)
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Subject: DEEPSPACE EMAIL PROBLEMS
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receive a response to email since then please call us.
Our email and website should be functioning without problems by Tuesday
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From: Reinhard Wolf <ge34@mailserv.uni-giessen.de>
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Subject: Letzter Aufruf zur Teilnahme an Sammelbestellung!
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:56:15 +0200
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Hallo NeXTies,
dies ist der unwiderruflich letzte Aufruf an alle, die gerne 'ne
Kleinigkeit von DeepSpaceTech haetten, aber die hohen Transport- und
Folgekosten scheuen!
Derzeit ist der Stand so, dass alle Beteiligten mit 50% der normal zu
kalkulierenden Transportkosten davonkommen!
Die Sammelbestellung geht am Mittwoch den 2.9 raus!
Also - scharf nachdenken, ob nicht doch noch was gebraucht wird.
Reinhard
PS Unbestaetigten Geruechten nach zu urteilen kann es sein, dass Shannon
Edwards und damit auch Rob Blessin und Sam Goldberger so allmaehlich in
Richtung Schlussverkauf steuern - damit ist dann die letzte Chance dahin
gezielt Ersatzteile und/oder Erweiterungen fuer die schwarzen Kisten zu
erwerben!
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From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
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Subject: Re: FS:TURBO CUBE DIMENSION SYSTEMS
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:46:31 +0100
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Hi,
Just out of curiosity: are these normale prices in the US? I would
consider a 1000 dollars for a system like this already outrageous.
Bye,
Marcel
DeepSpace Technologies wrote:
>
> We have just received a shipment of Next equipment. We have approximately 6
> Turbo Cube Dimension Systems forsale. Configs are as follows:
>
> Turbo Cube Dimension Systems(33mhz)
> 32/32 540mb HD
> 17" Sony Trinitron Monitor
> ADB or NON ADB(YOUR CHOICE)
> Keyboard
> Mouse
> Sound Box
> Cables
> Release 3.3 user installed on the HD only.
>
> Price each $1995.00
>
> Get your collection before it's too late!!!
>
> Respond by phone or fax until Tuesday 9/1. We are changing internet providers
> and may not get your email!!!
> --
> DeepSpace Technologies
> 7311 Grove Rd.
> Suite A-1
> Frederick, MD 21701
> Phone: 301-663-3033
> Fax : 301-620-9634
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From: kuranda@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Anke Ehlers)
Subject: Zwei NCRs 8010
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Hi all,
ich versuche gerade bei meinem PC, zwei NCRs 8010 zum Laufen zu bekommen,
aber leider bisher vergebens: Ich habe ein ASUS PCI/I-486SP3 (ohne G!) mit
einem On-Board NCR und möchte gerne noch einen Zweiten in einen der PCI-Slots
stecken, da ich mittlerweile 8 Geräte habe. Da sie beide die SCSI-Unterstüt
zung des Board-BIOS zum Booten benötigen, kann ich es schlecht für den
abstellen, von dem eben nicht gebootet werden soll, da entweder nur an oder
aus :-( Wenn ich beide nutze, wird der SCSI-Bus nicht gescannt und ich kann
nicht mehr booten.
Weiss jemand rat und vorallen wie ich das das Ganze, wenn es erstmal von der
Hardwareseite funktioniert, unter NEXTSTEP bzw. OPENSTEP bewerkstelligen
kann?
Anke
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
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Date: 31 Aug 98 15:58:10 GMT
Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Just out of curiosity: are these normale prices in the US? I would
>consider a 1000 dollars for a system like this already outrageous.
>
Only the dimension board costs it $1000 - if you are lucky ...
Sven
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Date: 31 Aug 1998 20:57:20 GMT
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WARNING TO NEWSGROUP ADDICTS!
Beware a company called "newsfeeds.com" I joined them at $9.95 per month several months ago as they promised unrestricted access to every available newsgroup so it sounded a good deal.
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Please be careful
Good Luck!
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From: mike@inis.de
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Subject: Bestaetigung Faxversand
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moin zusammen,
unter openstep 4.2 bekommt man doch normalerweise eine e-mail bestaetigung
ueber den versand eines fax. irgendwie funktioniert das bei mir nicht mehr.
hat jemand ne idee?
thanks, mike
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From: mike@inis.de
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Subject: Parallelport-Scanner unter openstep
Date: 1 Sep 98 08:25:32 GMT
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moin zusammen,
ich benutze seit laengerem einen von diesen billig-flachbettscannern, die man
an den parallelport anschliesst und bin mit dem ding auch ganz zufrieden
(unter windows). fuer meine ansprueche wuerde die anschaffung eines
scsi-scanners, der sich ja leicht unter openstep betreiben laesst, nicht
lohnen.
hat jemand eine idee wie ich das ding zum laufen kriege? gibts ueberhaupt nen
twain-treiber fuer openstep? oder kann ich mir das abschminken?
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
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Subject: Re: Parallelport-Scanner unter openstep
Date: 1 Sep 1998 10:17:04 GMT
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mike@inis.de wrote:
>moin zusammen,
>ich benutze seit laengerem einen von diesen billig-flachbettscannern, die
man
>an den parallelport anschliesst und bin mit dem ding auch ganz zufrieden
>(unter windows). fuer meine ansprueche wuerde die anschaffung eines
>scsi-scanners, der sich ja leicht unter openstep betreiben laesst, nicht
>lohnen.
>hat jemand eine idee wie ich das ding zum laufen kriege? gibts ueberhaupt
nen
>twain-treiber fuer openstep? oder kann ich mir das abschminken?
Fuer etwa 300 DM kriegst du einen guten SCSI Scanner.
Parallelportscanner wirst du unter OS nicht zum laufen kriegen.
Auch dass es eine Software gibt, die sich auf Twain abstuetzt
halte ich fuer fraglich.
HTH,
--
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From: ux4evr@yahoo.com
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Subject: Epson GT5500 NeXTSTEP Driver
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 10:43:15 GMT
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Ich suche ein Software der kann ein Epson GT5500 Scanner unterstützen, auf
NeXTSTEP 3.3 .
Gibt-es eingentlich ?
Pascal
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From: engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de
Subject: V/T: NeXTstation Turbo Color
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
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Date: 1 Sep 98 11:56:42 GMT
Hallo,
ich habe hier eine NeXTstation TurboColor "zuviel", die ich gerne verkaufen
oder tauschen moechte.
- NeXTstation TurboColor 33 MHz 68040
32 MB RAM (4x8 MB SIMMs)
1 GB SCSI Festplatte
16" Philips Farbmonitor
Soundbox
Non-ADB Tastatur und Maus
Ersatzmaus von Logitech (Originalmaus hakt manchmal etwas)
NS 3.3+Dev. installiert
diverse NeXT-Doku
Ich denke mal, dass ein Preis von VB DM 1350 angemessen ist.
Evtl. haette ich auch Interesse an Tausch gegen eine SGI Indy oder
einen Cube+Wertausgleich.
ciao,
Michael
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From: "bernd railer" <bernd_werbung@gmx.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: looking for an webobjects newsgroup
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:32:00 +0200
Organization: debis Network Services GmbH
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hi, i am looking for an webobjects newsgroup, anyone can help?
thank, david
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: looking for an webobjects newsgroup
Date: 1 Sep 1998 13:58:42 GMT
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"bernd railer" <bernd_werbung@gmx.de> wrote:
>hi, i am looking for an webobjects newsgroup, anyone can help?
no such thing. So etwas gibt es nicht. You might wish to join
the mailing list at OmniGroup's web server, but it's full of code
monkeys these days. Du koenntest die Mailingliste auf OmniGroups
Web-Server versuchen, dort sind viele kompetente Programmierer <eg>.
Well, there's always .programmer.
HTH, Chris
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From: matthias@:-)factum-gmbh.de (Matthias Schürhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Openstep NT und ico...
Date: 1 Sep 1998 14:00:08 GMT
Organization: FACTUM Projektentwicklung und Management GmbH
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Tagchen,
ich habe neuerdings ein Problem mit dem ProjectBuilder unter OS NT. Nachdem
ich eine .ico-Datei als App-Icon im Inspector definiert und unter "Images"
eingetragen habe, bekomme ich beim "build" folgende Meldung:
make: *** No rule to make target `DGDad.ico', needed by
`copy-global-resources'.
Das Ganze hat in einem anderen Projekt mal funktioniert; wenn ich in diesem
jetzt "build" aufrufe, geht's dort auch nicht mehr...
Hat jemand eine Idee, woran das liegen könnte? Ich habe so das Gefühl, daß
nach einem Plattencrash vielleicht irgendeine Datei verschwunden ist oder so?
Viele Grüße
Matthias
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: Re: Epson GT5500 NeXTSTEP Driver
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In <6sgj43$3fe$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> ux4evr@yahoo.com wrote:
> Ich suche ein Software der kann ein Epson GT5500 Scanner unterstützen, auf
> NeXTSTEP 3.3 .
>
> Gibt-es eingentlich ?
Mal ScanOmatic von IPC probiert? (http://www.ipc.de)
Gerald
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From: werner@ip.cubenet.de (Dr. Werner Eberl)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Farbdruckerproblem
Date: 1 Sep 1998 09:45:26 GMT
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Hallo beisammen,
ich hab hier einen der wenigen NeXT-Farbdrucker, mit dem ich auch drei Jahre
lang sehr gluecklich war. Jetzt sind einige schwarze und zwei blaue Duesen
kaputt (oder verstopft?).
Wer weiss, wie ich das Teil irgendwie putzen kann (Cleaning-Programm A und B
habe ich bereits gemacht) oder wo ich einen neuen Druckkopf bekommen kann?
Any hints welcome,
Werner
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Bestaetigung Faxversand
Date: 1 Sep 1998 22:11:46 GMT
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mike@inis.de wrote:
>moin zusammen,
>unter openstep 4.2 bekommt man doch normalerweise eine e-mail bestaetigung
>ueber den versand eines fax. irgendwie funktioniert das bei mir nicht mehr.
>hat jemand ne idee?
Vielleicht geht Deine Mail nicht? Vielleicht weiss hier niemand was Du für ne
Faxsoftware benutzt? Was sagt Deine Konsole?
>Roger says "remember: save early, save often"
Der Roger, der immer an Tankstellen in 20 sec eine Zigarette raucht?
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From: Robert Fischer <fischer@fokus.gmd.de>
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Subject: Re: Bestaetigung Faxversand
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 10:50:06 +0200
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mike@inis.de wrote:
>
> moin zusammen,
> unter openstep 4.2 bekommt man doch normalerweise eine e-mail bestaetigung
> ueber den versand eines fax. irgendwie funktioniert das bei mir nicht mehr.
> hat jemand ne idee?
Vor Jahren hatte ich auch mal das Problem - im Zusammenhang mit mix. Der
Fehler lag in einer geaenderten Mail-Konfiguration. Soweit ich mich erinnere
schickt das Fax an 'account' und nicht an 'account@domain' und irgendwo
war das Mapping der Namen nicht mehr korrekt.
Vielleicht hilft dir das schon weiter.
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From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
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Subject: Neuer Toner fuer NeXT-Laser
Date: 2 Sep 1998 09:04:18 GMT
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Hallo,
wo bekomme ich den fuer den NeXT-Laser eine neue Toner-Kartusche her, bzw.
zu welchem Fabrikat ist "diese welche" denn kompatibel ??!
Gruss
Stephan
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
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Subject: Re: Farbdruckerproblem
Date: 2 Sep 1998 09:27:30 GMT
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werner@ip.cubenet.de (Dr. Werner Eberl) wrote:
>Hallo beisammen,
>ich hab hier einen der wenigen NeXT-Farbdrucker, mit dem ich auch drei Jahre
>lang sehr gluecklich war. Jetzt sind einige schwarze und zwei blaue Duesen
>kaputt (oder verstopft?).
>Wer weiss, wie ich das Teil irgendwie putzen kann (Cleaning-Programm A und B
>habe ich bereits gemacht) oder wo ich einen neuen Druckkopf bekommen kann?
Der Next-Farbdrucker ist baugleich mit einem Canon-Modell (ich weiss
leider nicht, mit welchem), abgesehen von einem speziellen PROM, den
der Canon nicht hat. Du solltest also Farbkartuschen und andere
Ersatzteile von Canon bekommen koennen - bau das Teil mal aus und
frag deinen freundlichen PC-Haendler (gibt es sowas eigentlich noch?).
Wenn du es nicht herauskriegst, melde dich bei mir, ich kenne
jemand, der einen Canon auf 'NeXT' umgebaut hat, moechte ihn
aber nicht ohne Not belaestigen.
Hoffe dies hilft, Chris
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From: J.-U. Thieme <jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de>
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Subject: Re: Neuer Toner fuer NeXT-Laser
Date: 2 Sep 1998 10:04:48 GMT
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In <01bdd650$7d7fd7e0$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de> "Stephan Meyer" wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> wo bekomme ich den fuer den NeXT-Laser eine neue Toner-Kartusche her, bzw.
> zu welchem Fabrikat ist "diese welche" denn kompatibel ??!
>
> Gruss
> Stephan
>
>
Nimm eine fuer einen HP Lasejet III, die passt.
CIAO
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
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Subject: Englische NeXT Gruppen
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Hallo,
gestern bekam ich von meinem Newssystem die Meldungen, dass sämtliche
glischen NeXT-Newsgruppen zu löschen seien, da bei einer Abstimmung die Üb
Überflüssigkeit festgestellt wurde.
Ist das ein übler Scherz? Traffic herrscht ja nach wie vor. Falls nein,
wie heissen dann die Gruppen, in die "umgezogen" werden soll?
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
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Subject: Re: Englische NeXT Gruppen
Date: 2 Sep 1998 13:33:48 GMT
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juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) wrote:
>gestern bekam ich von meinem Newssystem die Meldungen, dass sämtliche
>glischen NeXT-Newsgruppen zu löschen seien, da bei einer Abstimmung die Üb
>Überflüssigkeit festgestellt wurde.
>
>Ist das ein übler Scherz? Traffic herrscht ja nach wie vor. Falls nein,
>wie heissen dann die Gruppen, in die "umgezogen" werden soll?
Nun, eine solche Abstimmung haetten wir, glaube ich, mitbekommen.
Duerfte ein 'Scherz' gewesen sein, ich wuerde das ggf melden.
Gruesse, Chris
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From: "Oliver Schirrmeister" <oschirr@abm.de>
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Subject: Wie verwende ich gcc 2.8.2
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:29:14 +0200
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Ich habe mir das gcc-i386.pkg mit dem C-Compiler Version 2.8.2
besorgt. Das Packet habe ich mit dem Installer auf Platte gespielt.
1.) Wie bekomme ich nun den Projectbuilder dazu, die neue Compiler
Version zu benutzen? Der alte (cc) Compiler steht im Verzeichnis
/bin, die neue Version wurde nach /usr/local/bin installiert.
2.) Der direkte Aufruf von gcc (von der shell aus) schlägt auch fehl, da
das Programm cc1obj nicht zu finden ist. Trägt man den entsprechenden
Pfad nach, so wird die Option -lang-objc nicht verstanden und es
hagelt Fehlermeldungen.
Was ist zu tun?
Ich verwende NeXT-Step 3.3 auf einem Intel-Prozessor.
Danke
Oliver
From: schmadde@prenzl.net (Martin Schmachtel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Umlaute in Terminal.app
Date: 2 Sep 1998 11:30:58 GMT
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Hallo,
weiss jemand wie man im Terminal Umlaute richtig angezeigt bekommt? Wenn
ich mich auf meiner Linux Muehle einlogge und Dateien editiere die Umlaute
im ISO-8859-1 Zeichensatz enthalten werden die immer als merkwuerdige
Sonderzeichen angezeigt. Ich kann zwar Umlaute eingeben, die erscheinen
dafuer aber auf anderen Rechnern als komische Sonderzeichen.
Kann man Terminal.app so einstellen dass es Zeichencodes nach ISO-8859-1
erzeugt?
Alternativ dazu, hat jemand eine .XKeysymDB fuer co-X-ist die fuer
deutsche Tastaturen die Richtigen Keycodes erzeugt?
Any other hints?
System ist eine Nextstation color mit deutscher Tastatur und Nextstep 3.3
in case that matters.
ciaole
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From: "Joachim Schneider" <jschneid@mail.mg.fh-niederrhein.de>
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Subject: FAQ (Re: Neuer Toner fuer NeXT-Laser)
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Stephan Meyer wrote in de.comp.sys.next about "Neuer Toner fuer NeXT-Laser=
":
> wo bekomme ich den fuer den NeXT-Laser eine neue Toner-Kartusche her,
> bzw. zu welchem Fabrikat ist "diese welche" denn kompatibel ??!
siehe FAQ, z.B. auf http://andy.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/~andy/doc/faq/NeXT-FAQ
Besorg dir HP Laserjet II,IID,III,IIID Toner Bezeichnung HP 92295 A
Sollte im normalen PC Laden an der Ecke erh=E4ltlich sein (ca. 100 DM).
Joachim %-6
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From: "Joachim Schneider" <jschneid@mail.mg.fh-niederrhein.de>
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 22:58:05 -0500
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Subject: Re: NeXTstation als Router?
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David Wetzel wrote in de.comp.sys.next about "Re: NeXTstation als Router?"=
:
>
> >ist es moeglich, die beiden Ethernet-Anschluesse einer station
> >gleichzeitig zu benutzen, um die Maschine als Router einzusetzen?
>
> Meine Stations haben alle nur ein Netzinterface. BNC oder TP ist in etwa
> so, als wenn Du zwei Trinkhalme in das gleiche Glas steckst.
>
> (Mit dem Unterschied dass das mit dem Glas geht ;-)
Iiiih! Getr=E4nke =FCber ein Glas routen... 8-)
Aber, um beim Thema zu bleiben: K=F6nnte man das vielleicht mit einem
weiteren Board in einem Cube machen? Hab mir noch nie Gedanken dar=FCber
gemacht ein weiteres CPU Board einzubauen und habe leider keine klaren
Aussagen dar=FCber ob mehrere Boards im Cube untereinander kommunizieren
(intern) k=F6nnen?!? Station ist nicht, schon klar.
Joachim %-6
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: TREFFEN: Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) am 7. September 1998
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Date: 2 Sep 1998 21:19:40 GMT
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EINLADUNG ZUM TREFFEN DER BERLINER NeXT USER GROUP (BeNG)
*********************************************************
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) trifft sich am
Montag, den 7. September 1998, um 20.00 Uhr,
in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e. V.,
Kiautschoustrasse 18, 13353 Berlin,
wobei folgende Themen geplant sind:
ALTIVEC PROZESSOR-ARCHITEKTUR
Motorola wird die PowerPC-Architektur u. a. um spezielle
Vektorverarbeitungsefehle erweitern, mit denen Media-
intensive Anwendungen extrem beschleunigt werden koennen.
Naehere Details dazu werden einem Vortrag zu entnehmen sein.
DER iMAC IST DA
Drei Tage vor dem Treffen ist Apples neuester Erfolgsrechner
auch in Deutschland erhaeltlich. Wir versuchen, einen iMac
live zu praesentieren und auch ueber sonstige Entwicklungen
in Sachen Hardware und Software - speziell zu Mac OS X Server -
zu berichten.
Das Treffen steht allen NEXTSTEP und OPENSTEP- bzw. Rhapsody-
Interessierten offen, auch Einsteigern oder Leuten, die erst einmal
mehr ueber NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP und Rhapsody bzw. MacOS X, dem neuen
Betriebsssystem von Apple, erfahren wollen.
Wir treffen uns in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e.V.
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin (Wedding)
von 20.00 bis ca. 22.00 Uhr. Die Raeume selbst befinden sich im
Erdgeschoss.
WIE KOMMT MAN HIN
Da die Kiautschoustrasse in einem Wohngebiet liegt und es
erfahrungsgemaess kaum freie Parkplaetze in der Naehe gibt,
empfehlen wir die Anfahrt mit dem Fahrrad oder mit oeffentlichen
Verkehrsmitteln.
Sie erreichen uns am besten ueber folgende Linien:
U-BAHN U 9 bis U-Bahnhof Amrumer Strasse
U 6 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
BUS 248 bis Kiautschoustrasse
221 bis Luxemburger Strasse
245 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
120 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
Die behindertengerechten Busse der Linie 248 halten fast vor der Tuer
(50 m), bei den anderen Linien sollten Sie einen Fussweg von etwa
fuenf Minuten einplanen. Einen Fahrplan von Ihnen zur BeNG finden Sie
unter der URL http://www.fahrinfo-berlin.de.
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Wenn Sie einen Internet-Zugang haben, koennen Sie einen Blick auf den
entsprechenden Kartenausschnitt auf dem Server des StadtINFO-Verlags
werfen. Unter der URL http://www.beng.org/meeting.html ist eine
Umgebungskarte der Kiautschoustrasse abgebildet, auf der die
Vereinsraeume des IN-Berlin e. V. durch einen roten Kreis markiert
sind.
DAS UEBERNAECHSTE TREFFEN
Das darauffolgende Treffen findet am 5. Oktober 1998 statt. Bisher
ist eine Exkursion zur Berliner Firma InfoPark geplant.
UEBER BeNG
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) existiert seit 1990 und ist
ein loser Zusammenschluss von NeXT-Interessierten.
Wir betreiben zwei Mailinglisten fuer Ankuendigungen bzw. fuer
Diskussionen rund um NeXT/Apple-Technologien und einen FTP-Server
fuer NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Programme (ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT).
Unser Rhapsody-FTP-Server (ftp://ftp.beng.org) befindet sich noch
im Aufbau. Naehere Informationen erhalten sie, indem Sie eine E-Mail
an about@beng.org schicken.
Wir treffen uns in der Regel am ersten Montag im Monat um 20.00 Uhr.
Wenn dieser Tag ein Feiertag ist, findet das Treffen in der
darauffolgenden Woche statt. Oft werden auch Vortraege gehalten oder
Vorfuehrungen arrangiert.
Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG)
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 39 03 93 03
Fax +49 30 / 39 03 93 04
WWW http://www.beng.org
E-Mail info@beng.org
UEBER IN-BERLIN
Das Individual Network Berlin (IN-Berlin) bietet seit 1990
Internet-Zugang zur privaten Nutzung an. IN-Berlin arbeitet nicht
gewinnorientiert und ist seit 1996 ein eingetragener Verein, der
heute ueber seine 2 MBit/s-Anbindung mehr als 600 Teilnehmer mit
Internet-Konnektivitaet versorgt.
In den Vereinsraeumen des IN-Berlin e.V. in Berlin-Wedding finden
regelmaessig Usertreffen, Schulungen und Veranstaltungen befreundeter
Gruppen, z. B. der Berliner LINUX-Usergruppe (BeLUG) oder der Berliner
NeXT User Group (BeNG), statt.
Info-Kontakt IN-Berlin e. V.
Kiautschoustr. 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 45 49 43 43
Fax +40 30 / 45 49 43 44
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Juergen Grieb <juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> wrote:
: gestern bekam ich von meinem Newssystem die Meldungen, dass sämtliche
: glischen NeXT-Newsgruppen zu löschen seien, da bei einer Abstimmung die Üb
: Überflüssigkeit festgestellt wurde.
: Ist das ein übler Scherz? Traffic herrscht ja nach wie vor. Falls nein,
: wie heissen dann die Gruppen, in die "umgezogen" werden soll?
Ja, ein schlechter Scherz: Das ist Teil eines gross angelegten
Denial-of-Service-Angriffs auf das Usenet.
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Subject: Re: NeXTstation als Router?
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35ee4485.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 3 Sep 98 07:25:57 GMT
"Joachim Schneider" <jschneid@mail.mg.fh-niederrhein.de> wrote:
>David Wetzel wrote in de.comp.sys.next about "Re: NeXTstation als Router?"=
>:
>>
>> >ist es moeglich, die beiden Ethernet-Anschluesse einer station
>> >gleichzeitig zu benutzen, um die Maschine als Router einzusetzen?
>>
>> Meine Stations haben alle nur ein Netzinterface. BNC oder TP ist in etwa
>> so, als wenn Du zwei Trinkhalme in das gleiche Glas steckst.
>>
>> (Mit dem Unterschied dass das mit dem Glas geht ;-)
>
>Iiiih! Getr=E4nke =FCber ein Glas routen... 8-)
:*)
>
>Aber, um beim Thema zu bleiben: K=F6nnte man das vielleicht mit einem
>weiteren Board in einem Cube machen? Hab mir noch nie Gedanken dar=FCber
>gemacht ein weiteres CPU Board einzubauen und habe leider keine klaren
>Aussagen dar=FCber ob mehrere Boards im Cube untereinander kommunizieren
>(intern) k=F6nnen?!? Station ist nicht, schon klar.
Die Boards im Cube haben nur ueber Ethernet Verbindung... . Wahrscheinlich
beisst sich also die Katze in den Schwanz oder wie das heisst :<)
Sven
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From: Jens Kraiczi <jkra@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
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Subject: AIC7895 & OS4.2
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 09:29:46 +0200
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
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Hallo,
ich versuche grade mein OS4.2 nach dem Einbau eines GA 686BXDS wieder
zum laufen zu bekommen...bringt beim booten die Meldung "can't get
config space" oder sowas fuer den o.g. Onboard-Adaptec.
ist es möglich den Hostadapter mit dem NS-Treiber zu betreiben?!
any hints ?
...ratlos
-Jens
From: joergk@s51.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Power Management?
Date: 3 Sep 1998 08:20:50 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
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Hallo,
ich habe mir jetzt endlich einen jahrzehntealten Wunsch erfuellt und
mir OpenStep 4.2 fuer Intel zugelegt. Beim Ueberfliegen der
Dokumentation fiel mir auf, dass im Abschnitt Abschalten von
Intel-Rechnern erwaehnt wird, "einige Rechner" schalten sich beim
shutdown automatisch ab. Heisst das, dass OpenStep ATX Power
Management unterstuetzt, oder was ist darunter zu verstehen?
Joerg
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: AIC7895 & OS4.2
Date: 3 Sep 1998 10:47:45 GMT
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Jens Kraiczi <jkra@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
: Hallo,
: ich versuche grade mein OS4.2 nach dem Einbau eines GA 686BXDS wieder
: zum laufen zu bekommen...bringt beim booten die Meldung "can't get
: config space" oder sowas fuer den o.g. Onboard-Adaptec.
: ist es möglich den Hostadapter mit dem NS-Treiber zu betreiben?!
: any hints ?
Wenn der On-Board-Adapter zu irgendetwas unterstuetztem kompatibel
ist, sollte es reichen, wenn Du in der Instance0.table des Treibers
die beim PCI-Scan ausgegebene ID des Adapters unter "Auto Detect IDs"
eintraegst.
Ohne Zugriff auf Deine SCSI-Platte wird das allerdings schwierig.
Zwei Moeglichkeiten:
Wenn Du Zugriff auf ein laufendes NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-System hast,
kannst Du den Treiber auf eine Diskette packen und wie bei der
Installation (allerdings mit -s am boot-prompt) booten.
Ansonsten bleibt nur: altes Board wieder rein, ID eintragen,
neues Board einbauen, hoffen....
Ein Problem wird sein, aus der Liste der angezeigten IDs die
des SCSI-Adapters rauszufinden. Es werden naemlich alle gefundenen
PCI-Devices angezeigt.
HTH
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From: "Matthias Schürhoff" <matthias@:-)factum-gmbh.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Farbdruckerproblem
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:44:39 +0200
Organization: FACTUM Projektentwicklung und Management GmbH
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Dr. Werner Eberl schrieb in Nachricht <6sgfnm$dme@ip.ip.cubenet.de>...
>Hallo beisammen,
>ich hab hier einen der wenigen NeXT-Farbdrucker, mit dem ich auch drei
Jahre
>lang sehr gluecklich war. Jetzt sind einige schwarze und zwei blaue Duesen
>kaputt (oder verstopft?).
>Wer weiss, wie ich das Teil irgendwie putzen kann (Cleaning-Programm A und
B
>habe ich bereits gemacht) oder wo ich einen neuen Druckkopf bekommen kann?
>Any hints welcome,
>Werner
Hallo,
ein Kollege von mir hat nach längerem Nichtgebrauch häufig die Düsen an
seinem HP-Tintenstrahler verstopft; das bekommt er mit irgendeinem
Reinigungs- bzw. Lösungsmittel wieder hin. Vielleicht gibt's im
Zubehörhandel auch spezielle Mittel dafür...
Viel Erfolg!
Matthias
===========================================================
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You may already be a member and had no problems. Fine! I am just letting people know about them as they have caused me problems. They are also still automatically taking money from my credit card even after i cancelled my account with them. I have reported them to Visa International and am trying to find what Police Dept covers their area so i can report them for taking money without permission. It seems that they can extract small amounts from your card without authorisation so this could go on for month's!
Please be careful
Good Luck!
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From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
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Subject: Re: Farbdruckerproblem
Date: 3 Sep 1998 13:35:11 GMT
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Bei HP-Drucker geht es mit folgendem Trick:
ein a4 Blatt Falten, nassmachen, und zwischen druckkopf und Walze schieben
und hin und herbewegen.
Alex
Dr. Werner Eberl schrieb in Nachricht <6sgfnm$dme@ip.ip.cubenet.de>...
>Hallo beisammen,
>ich hab hier einen der wenigen NeXT-Farbdrucker, mit dem ich auch drei
Jahre
>lang sehr gluecklich war. Jetzt sind einige schwarze und zwei blaue Duesen
>kaputt (oder verstopft?).
>Wer weiss, wie ich das Teil irgendwie putzen kann (Cleaning-Programm A und
B
>habe ich bereits gemacht) oder wo ich einen neuen Druckkopf bekommen kann?
>Any hints welcome,
>Werner
From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: AIC7895 & OS4.2
Date: 3 Sep 1998 13:35:10 GMT
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Wir hatten dieses Problem mit 3.3 und neueren Adaptec Bios (ich glaube
>1.21) abhilfe schaffte es, einen
neuen Adaptec Treiber auf eine Diskette zu spielen und bei der Installation
diesen Treiber zu verwenden.
Alex
Jens Kraiczi schrieb in Nachricht <35EE456A.432BCDF8@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>...
>Hallo,
>
>ich versuche grade mein OS4.2 nach dem Einbau eines GA 686BXDS wieder
>zum laufen zu bekommen...bringt beim booten die Meldung "can't get
>config space" oder sowas fuer den o.g. Onboard-Adaptec.
>ist es möglich den Hostadapter mit dem NS-Treiber zu betreiben?!
>any hints ?
>
>
>...ratlos
>-Jens
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: NeXTstation als Router?
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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:20:41 GMT
In article
<Pine.SOL.3.96.980828201609.17754A-100000@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de> Nils
Hott <soz96hxw@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de> writes:
> Hallo,
>
> ist es moeglich, die beiden Ethernet-Anschluesse einer station
> gleichzeitig zu benutzen, um die Maschine als Router einzusetzen?
>
Eben habe ich mir mit einer heftigen Handbewegung den Schalk vom Nacken
getrieben sonst haette ich mich niemals zu einem platten "Nein"
durchringen koennen (die Frage hat schon wirklich ein heftiges
Humorpotential :-), aber die Stecker sind nur die alternativen Anschuesse
des einen und einzigen Netzwerkports.
In NS ist zwar der alte Routing Deamon aus BSD mit bei aber den kannste
nur nutzen wenn du zwei Ports hast. In unserem Fall geht das nur bei
Verwendung von PPP ueber ein lokales Modem.
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From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NeXT-Drucker meldet Papierstau
Date: 4 Sep 1998 07:22:57 GMT
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Hallo,
Mein NeXT-Laser druckt nicht. Jeder Blatteinzug wird mit einer
Papierstaumeldung abgebrochen.
Die Blätter werden ca. 10 cm eingezogen, so daß ich dir Ursache in der
ersten "Rubber"-Rolle weiß.
Nun habe ich mir diese mal etwas genauer angeschaut; drehen laesst sie sich
nicht vollstaendig, da sie hakt,
aber meine dringlichste Frage ist, sollte diese "Rolle" nicht RUND sein ??
Meine ist leicht oval.
Kann es also sein, dass sie eingedrueckt wurde ??
Und wenn nicht, wie muss ich vorgehen, um sie zu reinigen ??
oder wo liegt das Problem vielleicht ß!??!!??!?!?!
Gruss
Stephan
From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Fehlermeldungen mit Audio...
Date: 4 Sep 1998 07:43:19 GMT
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Huhu,
mir war mal so, als wenn ich "frueher" Fehlermeldungen, vorallem des
Druckers, stimmlich untermalt bekam.
Nun passiert das nicht mehr. Warum, wo fehhlt vielleicht war an Datenfiles
?
In den Preferences habe ich brav "Audio Meldung" aktiviert, Lautstaerke ist
auch ausreichend :-)
System:
Schwarz, Mono, V3.3
Gruss
Stephan
From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Deutscher Gebraucht-Verschmacker
Date: 4 Sep 1998 07:44:58 GMT
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Nochmal,
irgendjemand hat mal einen deutschen Link bekanntgegeben, von einem
Deutschen Haendler, der vergleichbar ist mit DeepspaceTech (zumindest boten
die sich auf ihrer HomePage als Gebrauchthaendler an).
Koennte ich die Adresse nochmal haben ??
Gruss
Stephan
From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Hardwaresupport fuer NeXT-Laser
Date: 4 Sep 1998 07:46:17 GMT
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...und nochmal!
Wer ist eigentlich Erbauer des NeXT-Lasers ?? (HP, Canon ?!)
Gaebe es heute noch Unterstuetzung bei Hardware-Problemen ? Wenn ja, wo ?!
Wer ?
Gruss
Stephan
From: "Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: letzten Messages
Date: 4 Sep 1998 09:39:10 GMT
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... ausserdem ist mir gerade aufgefallen, dass meine letzten Messages in
einem miserablen Deutsch ins Netz gerauscht sind.
Wie teilweise ganze Satzteile abgeschnitten wurden, ist mir im Moment
schleierhaft, denn mein Source ist 100% in Ordnung :-(
Trotzdem SCHULLIGUNG!
Stephan
From: fen.vertrieb@t-online.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: AIC7895 & OS4.2
Date: 3 Sep 1998 16:08:24 GMT
Message-ID: <6smeto$79$1@news02.btx.dtag.de>
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> Jens Kraiczi schrieb in Nachricht <35EE456A.432BCDF8@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>...
> >Hallo,
> >
> >ich versuche grade mein OS4.2 nach dem Einbau eines GA 686BXDS wieder
> >zum laufen zu bekommen...bringt beim booten die Meldung "can't get
> >config space" oder sowas fuer den o.g. Onboard-Adaptec.
> >ist es möglich den Hostadapter mit dem NS-Treiber zu betreiben?!
> >any hints ?
Der Adaptec AIC789[0/1/5] wird derzeit nicht von Openstep unterstuetzt.
Hier eine Mail von Apple dazu :
>From: Jill Martin >Date: Tue, 4 Aug 98 15:22:48 -0700
>To: khe@abo.freiepresse.de
>Subject: [120513] Re: Apple - Enterprise - Tech Support
>Reply-To: appendlog@enterprise.apple.com, jillm@apple.com
>X-UIDL: 30a01a7c1af43b1a839dff92ab17c13f
>
>Karsten,
>
>A driver for the 7895 chipset is currently being written and is considered
high priority. I don't have an ETA yet on the driver, but check the Hardware
Compatibility Guide for updates.
>
>jill
>---
>Jill Martin
>Enterprise Technical Support
>Apple Computer, Inc.
- Karsten
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT-Drucker meldet Papierstau
Date: 4 Sep 1998 10:32:33 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
Message-ID: <6sofk1$7lm32@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <01bdd7d4$a7d2f1a0$ce12b4c2@ki_pc40.ppinet.de>
Obwohl eine Reinigung natuerlich nie schaden kann :-) und es manchmal
auch nur eine Trivialitaet ist, wie die, dass der Papierformat-Wahl-
schalter an der Papierzufuehrung 'zwischen' A4 und Letter rutscht,
sind es aber meistens eher Zahnraeder (oft aus Plastik) 'vorne' (Einzug)
und hinten (Ausgabe) die Verursacher von solchen Problemen. Diese muessen
oft wirklich ersetzt werden - beliebter Fehler: Das Papier wird 'nicht ganz'
ausgeworfen, was auch zum Papierstau fuehrt. Dazu gibt es diverse Postings,
auch in dieser Newsgroup (DejaNews)!
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
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Subject: Re: Hardwaresupport fuer NeXT-Laser
Date: 4 Sep 1998 10:26:46 GMT
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Stephan Meyer (meyers@ppi.de) wrote:
: ...und nochmal!
:
: Wer ist eigentlich Erbauer des NeXT-Lasers ?? (HP, Canon ?!)
Canon-engine! Erbauer war - glaube ich - trotzdem NeXT.
: Gaebe es heute noch Unterstuetzung bei Hardware-Problemen ? Wenn ja, wo ?!
: Wer ?
Offiziell war und fuehlte sich in Deutschland die Firma Sorbus in Duesseldorf
zustaendig; jetzt, da es die Firma 'NeXT' nicht mehr gibt, kenne ich die
vertragliche Lage nicht. Sorbus liefert aber immer ganz 'brauchbare'
Loesungen, selbst wo sie an Originalteile nicht herankommen, solange sie
ueberhaupt eine Chance sehen (z.B. nicht bei (wirklich defekten) Maeusen!!!);
aber Achtung: Dieser Service spiegelt sich deutlich im Preis wieder!
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: Robert Fischer <fischer@fokus.gmd.de>
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Subject: Re: NeXT-Drucker meldet Papierstau
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:20:00 +0200
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Stephan Meyer wrote:
>
> Hallo,
>
> Mein NeXT-Laser druckt nicht. Jeder Blatteinzug wird mit einer
> Papierstaumeldung abgebrochen.
> Die Blätter werden ca. 10 cm eingezogen, so daß ich dir Ursache in der
> ersten "Rubber"-Rolle weiß.
>
> Nun habe ich mir diese mal etwas genauer angeschaut; drehen laesst sie sich
> nicht vollstaendig, da sie hakt,
> aber meine dringlichste Frage ist, sollte diese "Rolle" nicht RUND sein ??
> Meine ist leicht oval.
> Kann es also sein, dass sie eingedrueckt wurde ??
> Und wenn nicht, wie muss ich vorgehen, um sie zu reinigen ??
Da kann ich dich beruhigen. Die Einzugrolle (aus Gummi) ist 'eierig'. Nach
meiner Erfahrung reicht haeufig schon das Reinigen mit einem feuchten Tuch.
Reinigungsmittel wie Aceton oder Spiritus bringen nix. Die Rolle sollte sich
nach der Aktion 'griffig' anfuehlen. Mit sanfter Gewalt laesst sie sich auch
in der normalen Einzugsrichtung drehen. Ja, sie hakt dabei ein bisschen.
Viel Erfolg,
Robert
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From: Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM>
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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 07:27:25 -0400
Hi,
nach langen tüfteln ist es mir gelungen eine Internetverbindung
über CompuServe mit ppp hinzukriegen.
Nachdem ich mir dort einen POP3-Account eingerichtet habe kann
ich nun auch email empfangen und Mail.app verwenden.
Das Dumme ist nur ich kann keine email versenden. Es kommt dann
eine Nachricht die ungefähr lautet
"...nextrulze sendmail[221]: AA00252: to=Lutz Kwasniok
<drjekylandmrhyde@csi.com>, delay=1+03:11:52, stat=Deferred:
<root@nextrulze>... Unknown system error".
Kann mir jemand weiter helfen und sagen was falsch ist oder kennt
jemand evtl. jemanden im Raum Hannover der sich das mal ansehen
könnte.
Danke
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
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Subject: NFS und Lesepuffer
Date: 5 Sep 1998 06:02:32 GMT
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Hallo,
ich habe hier einen Linux-Rechner unter OS4.2 per NFS gemounted. Im NFS
Manager kann man ja den Lese- und Schreibpuffer einstellen. Default:
2. Probeweise habe ich ihn mal auf 1024 reduziert und prompt ging die
rformance in den Keller.
Nun meine Frage. Welcher ist der Optimale Wert? 8192?
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From: Thorsten Bjoern Rissom <jagoda@physik.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Subject: ISDN unter OpenStep4.2
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:27:17 +0200
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Hallo!
Ich wollte mal fragen ob irgendjemand Erfahrungen mit dem Aufbau einer
ISDN Verbindung unter OpenStep 4.2 / Intel hat. Welche Hardware
funktioniert und wie baut man eine PPP Verbindung auf?
Bin dankbar fuer jeden Tip.
Thorsten Rissom
jagoda@physik.tu-berlin.de
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: Hardwaresupport fuer NeXT-Laser
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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 21:38:52 GMT
Stephan Meyer <meyers@ppi.de> wrote:
: ...und nochmal!
: Wer ist eigentlich Erbauer des NeXT-Lasers ?? (HP, Canon ?!)
: Gaebe es heute noch Unterstuetzung bei Hardware-Problemen ? Wenn ja, wo ?!
: Wer ?
Den HW-Service von/fuer NeXT in den USA hat uebernommen:
DecisionOne
(ehem. Bell Atlantic Service Dept.)
information@decisionone.com
001-800-499-6398 ext. 2
001-888-287-9202
Fax 001-510-732-3078
Gruss,
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From: nospam@nexusgate.oche.de (Michael Pieper, yes, this is a valid address)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Usenet-Programme
Date: 5 Sep 1998 18:35:16 GMT
Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany
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Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
>Hallo,
>Ich habe es geschaft eine Internetverbindung über CompuServe mit
>ppp zubekommen. Ich kann auch Web-Browser und FTP-Programme
>benutzen. Aber jedesmal wenn ich ein Usenet-Programm starte hängt
>sich diese auf.
>Ich starte das Programm (Alexandra oder NewsGrazer) und nicht
>passiert nur der Cursor dreht sich.
>Weiß jemand was da nicht stimmt oder wie ich die Programme oder
>was anderes umkonfigurieren muß damit diese Programme arbeiten ?
Ich schaetze mal, dass diese sich nicht aufhaengen, sondern dass es etwas
laenger dauert, bis sie sich das active-File des Servers geholt haben, um
alle verfuegbaren Newsgroups anzuzeigen. Warte nach dem Start des
Newsreaders einfach mal eine Viertelstunde, ob es dann geht.
Bei Alexandra gibt es dann noch die Option "Slow Link" im Open-Panel fuer die
Server, das solltest Du bei einer langsamen Anbindung (= alles kleiner
2Mbit/s) unbedingt aktivieren.
Prinzipiell geschickter ist es, einen lokalen Newsserver (z.B. Personal INN)
aufzusetzen, was auch deutlich billiger ist als das Online-Lesen.
Ansonsten kann man News auch noch mit dem emacs lesen...
Michael
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From: nospam@nexusgate.oche.de (Michael Pieper, yes, this is a valid address)
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Subject: Re: NFS und Lesepuffer
Date: 6 Sep 1998 10:28:29 GMT
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juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) wrote:
>ich habe hier einen Linux-Rechner unter OS4.2 per NFS gemounted. Im NFS
>Manager kann man ja den Lese- und Schreibpuffer einstellen. Default:
>2. Probeweise habe ich ihn mal auf 1024 reduziert und prompt ging die
>rformance in den Keller.
>
>Nun meine Frage. Welcher ist der Optimale Wert? 8192?
Theoretisch schon, das haengt aber absolut von Deinem Netz ab (wenn Retries
auftreten, ist der grosse Buffer eher hinderlich). Dir bleibt eigentlich
nichts anderes ueber, als mit den Read- und Write Buffer Sizes und auch den
Timeouts ein wenig zu experimentieren, bis Du das Optimum gefunden hast.
Weiter kann es nicht schaden, auf Linux-Seite einen moeglichst aktuellen NFSD
zu installieren, das kann die Performance auch erheblich steigern.
Michael
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
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Subject: Re: ISDN unter OpenStep4.2
Date: 6 Sep 1998 22:02:15 GMT
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Thorsten Bjoern Rissom <jagoda@physik.TU-Berlin.DE> wrote:
>Hallo!
>
>Ich wollte mal fragen ob irgendjemand Erfahrungen mit dem Aufbau einer
>ISDN Verbindung unter OpenStep 4.2 / Intel hat. Welche Hardware
>funktioniert und wie baut man eine PPP Verbindung auf?
Du kauft entweder eine Kiste, die Dein lokales Netz ans ISDN koppelt oder
einen TA, der so tut, als wenn er ein Modem ist. (Siehe aktuelle oder letzte
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
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Date: 7 Sep 98 08:23:08 GMT
"Stephan Meyer" <meyers@ppi.de> wrote:
>Huhu,
>
>mir war mal so, als wenn ich "frueher" Fehlermeldungen, vorallem des
>Druckers, stimmlich untermalt bekam.
>Nun passiert das nicht mehr. Warum, wo fehhlt vielleicht war an Datenfiles
>?
>
Die Sounds sind in /usr/lib/NextPrinter/English.lproj/*.snd (oder
German.lproj, ...) und sollten eigentlich nicht verloren gehen koennen.
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From: Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at>
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Subject: Graphik mit 1420 x 1065
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 11:11:27 +0200
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Hi!
Wenn man davon ausgeht, das fuer einen 17" Monitor
1152 x 864 die optimale Aufloesung ist und das auf 21"
hochrechnet, kommt man auf 1420 x 1065.
Kennt jemand Graphikkarten, die eine Aufloesung
in dieser Groessenordnung (also ca 1400 x 1000)
unterstuetzen ? (NS3.3, OS4.1, ev. auch Linux, NT4)
Danke, Max
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
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Michael Pieper, yes, this is a valid address wrote:
> >Nun meine Frage. Welcher ist der Optimale Wert? 8192?
> Theoretisch schon, das haengt aber absolut von Deinem Netz ab (wenn
tries
> auftreten, ist der grosse Buffer eher hinderlich). Dir bleibt
ich
> nichts anderes ueber, als mit den Read- und Write Buffer Sizes und auch
h den
> Timeouts ein wenig zu experimentieren, bis Du das Optimum gefunden
t.
LAN. 3 Rechner, alle stehen nebeneinander. Hat dafür schon jemand
le Werte gefunden? Die Booterei dauert immer so lang, wenn man neue Werte
e probiert.
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
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Subject: Hagenuk SpeedDragon unter OpenStep ?
Date: 7 Sep 1998 12:13:07 GMT
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Salut,
Hat schon jemand Erfahrungen mit der Hagenuk SpeedDragon
unter Openstep ? Funktioniert das gut oder gibt es bessere
Alternativen ?
Wuerde zwar lieber eine AVM Fritz!X PC nehmen, aber die
verwendet ein proprietaeres Protokoll auf dem seriellen
Anschluss :-(. Habe bei AVM angefragt ob sich das aendern
wuerde, aber die Antwort lautet: "Sie sind zwar nicht der
erste der fragt, aber insgesamt zuwenig Nachfrage dafuer".
Evtl. sollten mehr Anfragen danach an fritzsupport@avm.de
geschickt werden :-)
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From: Markus Kirschner <markus.kirschner@rz.uni-regensburg.de>
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Subject: Re: Graphik mit 1420 x 1065
Date: 7 Sep 1998 12:56:14 GMT
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Moin auch!
Maximilian Weissboeck wrote:
> Wenn man davon ausgeht, das fuer einen 17" Monitor
> 1152 x 864 die optimale Aufloesung ist und das auf 21"
> hochrechnet, kommt man auf 1420 x 1065.
> Kennt jemand Graphikkarten, die eine Aufloesung
> in dieser Groessenordnung (also ca 1400 x 1000)
> unterstuetzen ? (NS3.3, OS4.1, ev. auch Linux, NT4)
Ich hatte mal eine Elsa Winner 2000PRO in meinem Rechner
(NS3.3). Die kann 1408x1024. Das sollte mit allen Karten der Winner
1000/2000 Serie funktionieren, die mit S3 864, 964, Vision868 und
Vision968 Chips arbeiten.
Siehe auch:
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1661.htmld/1661.html
oder
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1935.htmld/1935.html
tschuess
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From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
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Subject: Re: Graphik mit 1420 x 1065
Date: 7 Sep 1998 13:08:05 GMT
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Maximilian Weissboeck wrote:
> Wenn man davon ausgeht, das fuer einen 17" Monitor
> 1152 x 864 die optimale Aufloesung ist und das auf 21"
> hochrechnet, kommt man auf 1420 x 1065.
>
> Kennt jemand Graphikkarten, die eine Aufloesung
> in dieser Groessenordnung (also ca 1400 x 1000)
> unterstuetzen ? (NS3.3, OS4.1, ev. auch Linux, NT4)
1408*1024 konnte die miro Crystal 32S schon vor 4 Jahren. Mit heutigen
Karten erreichst Du lässig 1680*1024, zumindest mit der Matrox Millennium II
und entsprechendem RAM auf der Karte sogar bis zu 1900*irgendwas.
Der Genießer kauft dazu gleich noch..
- 256 MB RAM (backing store in true color - yum!)
- ein 28" Farb-LCD (so es sie denn schon gibt)
Also: nicht zögern! :-)
Holger
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From: Benno Eierle <eierle@statik.bauwesen.tu-muenchen.de>
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Subject: Re: NeXT-Drucker meldet Papierstau
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 08:37:54 +0200
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To: Stephan Meyer <meyers@ppi.de>
Stephan Meyer wrote:
>
> Mein NeXT-Laser druckt nicht. Jeder Blatteinzug wird mit einer
> Papierstaumeldung abgebrochen.
> Die Blätter werden ca. 10 cm eingezogen, so daß ich dir Ursache in der
> ersten "Rubber"-Rolle weiß.
>
Die Jungs von DeepSpace Technologies haben auf ihrer Web-
Seite ein paar Tips und Tricks zu Problemen mit den NeXT
Laser- und Farbdruckern, auch speziell zur Behebung des
Problems im Papiereinzug:
http://www.deepspacetech.com/Info/next_printer_page.htm
Vielleicht hilft's.
Gruesse,
Benno
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Benno Eierle, e-mail: eierle@statik.bauwesen.tu-muenchen.de
Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Lehrstuhl fuer Statik
From: fen.vertrieb@t-online.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Graphik mit 1420 x 1065
Date: 7 Sep 1998 10:54:30 GMT
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Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Wenn man davon ausgeht, das fuer einen 17" Monitor
> 1152 x 864 die optimale Aufloesung ist und das auf 21"
> hochrechnet, kommt man auf 1420 x 1065.
>
> Kennt jemand Graphikkarten, die eine Aufloesung
> in dieser Groessenordnung (also ca 1400 x 1000)
> unterstuetzen ? (NS3.3, OS4.1, ev. auch Linux, NT4)
miro Crystal32S PCI, 1408x1024x16bitx75Hz
sehr altes Teil, geht aber noch prima
- Karsten
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Died of a child to the Club med.
Ein kin ist im Club Med gestorben
Since the preceding sending of many contacts were taken.
Danke für ihre antwortung
Man will wissen wie ein Kind (2 jahre alt) ist im Club Med beim Zug gestrorben in italia in club med metaponto ?
The object is to include/understand how and why Constantin a little
boy from 2 years died in the Med Club in Metaponto in Italy in July 1998
crushed by a small train which joined the beach whereas it would have
been accompanied by 5 adults. And why his/her parents do not know
strictly nothing...
Ein Monat später die Elterner wissen NIE !
Es ist sehr wichtig zu finden personnen die Informationnen haben
In particular, any testimony of a person having assisted with
the accident or having noted dysfunction of the Club in the plans:
Es ist wichtig informationnen zu haben uber Club med sicherheit, Club med Medizin hilfe...
Und Club Gmbh in Italia... Organization.
medical care;
safety;
organization of the babys and mini-clubs;
professionalism;
language.
Also any testimony on a version of the facts which would have been
presented in an official way.
In the event of information to write with nros@planete.net
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Entschuldigung diese Gruppe ist vielleicht nicht gut.
Forgiveness, for this message can go in no group. It can be
remail or placed on sites or placed on discussion lists..
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From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
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Subject: Re: Graphik mit 1420 x 1065
Date: 8 Sep 1998 21:20:54 GMT
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In <6t0lrl$r49$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
> Der Genießer kauft dazu gleich noch..
> ... viel RAM
> - ein 28" Farb-LCD (so es sie denn schon gibt)
18" mit 1280x1024 in 256k Farben ist leider gerade das Hoechste der
...
sieht aber auch schon so richtig gut aus :-)
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From: J.-U. Thieme <jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de>
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Subject: Re: ISDN unter OpenStep4.2
Date: 9 Sep 1998 10:30:26 GMT
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In <6sv0p7$57f@alice.turbocat.de> David Wetzel wrote:
> Thorsten Bjoern Rissom <jagoda@physik.TU-Berlin.DE> wrote:
> >Hallo!
> >
> >Ich wollte mal fragen ob irgendjemand Erfahrungen mit dem Aufbau einer
> >ISDN Verbindung unter OpenStep 4.2 / Intel hat. Welche Hardware
> >funktioniert und wie baut man eine PPP Verbindung auf?
>
> Du kauft entweder eine Kiste, die Dein lokales Netz ans ISDN koppelt oder
> einen TA, der so tut, als wenn er ein Modem ist. (Siehe aktuelle oder
te
> C't)
>
>
Am einfachsten ist immernoch ein ISDN-Router und preislich inzwischen
inglich [am Besten gleich mit integrierten HUB, wenns mal mehr als eine Turbo
o sein darf :-) ]
CIAO
JUT
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From: matthias@:-)factum-gmbh.de (Matthias Schürhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Graphik mit 1420 x 1065
Date: 9 Sep 1998 11:22:31 GMT
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fen.vertrieb@t-online.de wrote:
> Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Wenn man davon ausgeht, das fuer einen 17" Monitor
> > 1152 x 864 die optimale Aufloesung ist und das auf 21"
> > hochrechnet, kommt man auf 1420 x 1065.
> >
> > Kennt jemand Graphikkarten, die eine Aufloesung
> > in dieser Groessenordnung (also ca 1400 x 1000)
> > unterstuetzen ? (NS3.3, OS4.1, ev. auch Linux, NT4)
>
> miro Crystal32S PCI, 1408x1024x16bitx75Hz
> sehr altes Teil, geht aber noch prima
Hab' ich auch noch:-) Allerdings hätte ich gerne noch einen besseren Treiber
für Windows NT 4.0. Der Windows-Treiber und der, der bei Miro liegt, kann bei
1280*1024 nur 60 Hz und das ist ein bisserl wenig:-( Miro selbst hat nur noch
bis NT 3.5 oder so Treiber entwickelt. Jetzt bräuchte ich jemanden, der den
generischen S3-Treiber patchen kann oder den Miro-3.5-Treiber umstellen kann
oder einen neuen schreibt... Kann mir jemand helfen? Nein, ich möchte z.Zt.
keine neue Grafikkarte kaufen:-) Momentan müssen NS 3.3 und NT 4.0 noch auf
einer Kiste laufen.
Viele Grüße
Matthias
===========================================================
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From: serge@anasys.net (serge hauser)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Next 21" an PC ?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:59:09 +0200
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moin,
ich hab ne turbocolor mit 21".
da ich pc maessig nur einen 17" habe, wuerd ich gern den intelkuebel an
den 21" anschliessen. ist das irgendwie moeglich, oder kann der moni nur
die komische next aufloesung ?
griessli
serge
From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.com>
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Subject: Re: ISDN unter OpenStep4.2
Date: 10 Sep 1998 08:15:56 GMT
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dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) wrote:
> Thorsten Bjoern Rissom <jagoda@physik.TU-Berlin.DE> wrote:
> >Hallo!
> >
> >Ich wollte mal fragen ob irgendjemand Erfahrungen mit dem Aufbau einer
> >ISDN Verbindung unter OpenStep 4.2 / Intel hat. Welche Hardware
> >funktioniert und wie baut man eine PPP Verbindung auf?
>
> Du kauft entweder eine Kiste, die Dein lokales Netz ans ISDN koppelt
> oder
> einen TA, der so tut, als wenn er ein Modem ist. (Siehe aktuelle oder
> letzte
> C't)
Ich hab mit dem AcerT30 gute Erfahrungen gemacht. (Hat sogar noch eine
Analogtelefonanlage mit zwei Nebenstellen integriert.) Allerdings sollte man
beachten, daß das PPP von OPENSTEP nur maximal 38400 kann und auch die
neueren Versionen hab ich (auf schwarzer Hardware!) nicht schneller als 57600
gekriegt. Das heißt, daß man damit dann nicht die volle ISDN Bandbreite
nutzen kann.
erik
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From: J.-U. Thieme <jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Next 21" an PC ?
Date: 10 Sep 1998 09:13:26 GMT
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In <MPG.1061b34972494f4a989681@news.eunet.ch> serge hauser wrote:
> moin,
>
> ich hab ne turbocolor mit 21".
> da ich pc maessig nur einen 17" habe, wuerd ich gern den intelkuebel an
> den 21" anschliessen. ist das irgendwie moeglich, oder kann der moni nur
> die komische next aufloesung ?
>
> griessli
> serge
>
Fast richtig vermutet, nur das die Aufloesung natuerlich NeXTlike
und nicht komisch ist :-)
Im Ernst, die NeXTMonis sind Festfrequenzmonitore, aber durchaus
betreibbar mit PC-Karten, leider nicht mit allen. Ich glaube bei
Deepspace oder Bifrost ist genaueres gelistet.
CIAO
JUT
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Subject: INCREDIBLE STORY ONLINE!!!
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I happen to have dropped by http://www.despotovic.net and I couldn't believe what I saw. A complete case online with over 48 pictures, 3 police reports and more!!!
Regards.
P.S.- The website address is http://www.despotovic.net
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From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Next 21" an PC ?
Date: 10 Sep 1998 11:49:08 GMT
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J.-U. Thieme <jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de> writes
> In <MPG.1061b34972494f4a989681@news.eunet.ch> serge hauser wrote:
> > moin,
> >
> > ich hab ne turbocolor mit 21".
> > da ich pc maessig nur einen 17" habe, wuerd ich gern den
intelkuebel an
> > den 21" anschliessen. ist das irgendwie moeglich, oder kann der
moni nur
> > die komische next aufloesung ?
> >
Mit z.B. vielen Matrox Karten kann man das Timing so genau anpassen,
dass man auch Festfrequenzmonitore betreiben kann.
so long,
jens ch. gloede
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Hans=2DJ=F6rg?= Fischer" <fischer@zkm.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: Next Non-ADB B/W Monitor
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:29:54 +0100
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Hi!
Leider verabschiedet sich gerade mein alter NeXT B/W Monitor (er faded).
Gibt es vorzugsweise im Raum KA jemanden, der einen abzugeben haette?
Danke!
Gruesse
Joerg
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This Website was HACKED by United Hackers HQ
http://www.slocomputers.com/sandra/
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From: Thomas Adams <tom@cat.ping.de>
Subject: OS4.2 sendmail Frage
Date: 11 Sep 1998 08:27:49 GMT
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Ein frisch installiertes OpenStep 4.2 versucht, nicht lokale EMail direkt beim
MX des Empfaengers abzuliefern. Wie gewoehne ich dem das ab?
Ich habe schon die sendmail.cf von einem Rechner, der brav unser mail relay
verwendet und auch OS4.2 benutzt, kopiert und den sendmail neu gestartet,
Rechner rebootet etc. Half aber nichts.
Was koennte ich sonst noch probieren?
nk alle Rechner unseres LANs
eingetragen waren, hatte ich neulich starke sendmail Probleme, die erst
weggingen, als ich ausser localhost und broadcasthost alle Eintraege geloescht
hatte. Erst dann schrieb das sendmail im SMTP Dialog den vollen Absender in
den Header, vorher gab es nur die Kurzform user@host. Komische Sache
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From: brender <brender@itc.rwth-aachen.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:43:00 +0100
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Ist es möglich, ein ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT anzuschließen?
Wenn ja, wie funktioniert das?
Vielen Dank für Euree Hilfe
Grüße Alex
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: wozu dient NetInfo?
Date: 11 Sep 1998 11:58:10 GMT
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Thomas Adams wrote:
> Kann mir vielleicht mal kurz jemand erklaeren, wozu bei NeXT/Open Step -
ja,
> selbst Rhapsody hat das noch - das NetInfo dienen soll?
NetInfo ist das, was alle anderen 'UNIX Hersteller' versucht haben
nachzubauen,
aber nicht geschafft haben.
Siehe auch:
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1271.htmld/1271.html
Holger
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: wozu dient NetInfo?
Date: 11 Sep 1998 12:00:49 GMT
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Ich vergaß:
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1060.htmld/1060.html
viel Spaß,
Holger
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Hagenuk SpeedDragon unter OpenStep ?
Date: 11 Sep 1998 14:10:46 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6tbb16$68m$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) wrote:
>Hat schon jemand Erfahrungen mit der Hagenuk SpeedDragon
>unter Openstep ? Funktioniert das gut oder gibt es bessere
>Alternativen ?
Ich hab's damals nicht hingekriegt, aber ich bin vielleicht auch
einfach zu doof. Aufgrund meiner Erfahrung mit TAs, und der hohen
CPU Belastung durch den PPP Port wuerde ich so etwas aber nicht
wieder probieren, sondern eher einen preisguenstigen Router kaufen.
Die sind nicht viel teurer, und laufen praktisch sofort, keine
weitere Software noetig, nur ein Stueck Kabel.
Und ich hab die dauernde Bastelei einfach satt :-)
(Hallo Holgi, schoen dass du wieder da bist!)
Chris
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
Date: 11 Sep 1998 14:14:04 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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brender <brender@itc.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
>Ist es möglich, ein ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT anzuschließen?
Ja.
>Wenn ja, wie funktioniert das?
Langsam und unzuverlaessig, wie an anderer Hardware auch.
Ich rate eher zum Olympus MO 230. Kostet minimal mehr, ist aber
extrem zuverlaessig, und wesentlich guenstiger in Preis/Leistung
was die Datentraeger angeht. Ausserdem ist das SCSI-Protokoll
korrekt implementiert. :-P
Gruesse, Chris
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From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Hagenuk SpeedDragon unter OpenStep ?
Date: 11 Sep 1998 14:49:52 GMT
Organization: the secret circle of the NSRC
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Christian Neuss wrote:
> droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) wrote:
> >Hat schon jemand Erfahrungen mit der Hagenuk SpeedDragon
> >unter Openstep ? Funktioniert das gut oder gibt es bessere
> >Alternativen ?
Es gibt bessere Alternativen..
> Ich hab's damals nicht hingekriegt, aber ich bin vielleicht auch
> einfach zu doof. Aufgrund meiner Erfahrung mit TAs, und der hohen
:-)
> CPU Belastung durch den PPP Port wuerde ich so etwas aber nicht
> wieder probieren, sondern eher einen preisguenstigen Router kaufen.
> Die sind nicht viel teurer, und laufen praktisch sofort, keine
> weitere Software noetig, nur ein Stueck Kabel.
Das kann ich nur bestätigen. Zyxel 128 (oder 100) installieren:
- auspacken
- ISDN und Ethernet Kabel verbinden (beim ersten Mal über serielle,
weil er da ja noch keine IP Adresse hat..)
- ISP und ISDN Parameter einstellen
- In NetInfo eintragen & Default-Route setzen
- ab in die Matrix
> (Hallo Holgi, schoen dass du wieder da bist!)
Qué? War nie weg..
Holger
From: agrewe@efi-nms.de (Andreas Grewe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: CubXWindow
Date: 11 Sep 1998 15:38:27 GMT
Organization: NetUSE Kommunikationstechnologie GmbH
Message-ID: <6tbg5j$rpk$1@queens.netuse.de>
Hallo,
kann mir irgend jemand sagen, ob das Produkt CubXWindow unter OS noch
vertrieben und/oder supported wird?
Gruss
Andreas Grewe
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From: Thomas Adams <tom@cat.ping.de>
Subject: OS oder DR2 im zweiten Anlauf fertig installieren - geht das?
Date: 11 Sep 1998 16:46:25 GMT
Organization: Debian GNU/Linux site
User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980226 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.34 (i386))
Message-ID: <ez4p9d.uq@cat.ping.de>
Ein Problem habe ich mit Openstep und Rhapsody DR2:
Angenommen ich installiere das Grundsystem und muss dann Schluss machen. Es
scheint irgendwie nicht moeglich zu sein, den Rest der zig hunderten von MB an
Developer Tools, Dokumentation etc. in einem zweiten Durchgang zu installieren.
Ist das tatsaechlich so oder ist mir bisher nur das dafuer noetige Tool
entgangen?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: FS:TURBO CUBE DIMENSION SYSTEMS
From: sales@deepspacetech.com (DeepSpace Technologies)
Organization: DeepSpace Technologies
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:03:33 GMT
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We have just a few Turbo Cube Dimension systems left. Configs are as follows:
Turbo cube Dimension system
32mb on motherboard
32mb on the Dimension board
540mb HD
17" Color monitor Sony Trinitron
17" Mono Monitor N4000B
Keyboard ADB
Mouse ADB
Sound box(in case you only want to use the color monitor
Cables
Floppy Drive
Release 3.3 user installed on the HD
Price Each $1995.00
From: J.-U. Thieme <jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: CubXWindow
Date: 11 Sep 1998 21:07:25 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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In <6tbg5j$rpk$1@queens.netuse.de> Andreas Grewe wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> kann mir irgend jemand sagen, ob das Produkt CubXWindow unter OS noch
> vertrieben und/oder supported wird?
>
> Gruss
> Andreas Grewe
>
Frag doch mal im Virchow an :-)
Und ich rate Dir dann schau auf :
http://www.intuisys.com/cubx/cindex.html
OK, CIAO und schoenes Wochenende an alle,
JUT
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From: "Peter Pöllinger" <Peter.Poellinger@idgruppe.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: webobjects-programmierer gesucht!!
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:32:24 +0100
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hi there, i-d, eine der fuehrenden europaeischen web-agencies sucht fuer
seinen neuen online-dienst cycosmos webobjects programmierer ... bitte
mailt/faxt mir oder ruft kurz durch...
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
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brender <brender@itc.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
: Ist es möglich, ein ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT anzuschließen?
Ja, die SCSI-Variante.
: Wenn ja, wie funktioniert das?
Plug & Play, und zwar so, wie es sein sollte!
-Ingmar
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From: 101.84391@germanynet.de (Olaf Maetzner)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:44:44 GMT
Organization: germany.net Onlinesysteme
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On Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:43:00 +0100,
brender <brender@itc.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> Ist es möglich, ein ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT anzuschließen?
> Wenn ja, wie funktioniert das?
> Vielen Dank für Euree Hilfe
> Grüße Alex
>
Ranstecken - Platte rein - schon erscheint sie auf dem Browser.
Hat gute backup-Dienste fuer meine Diplomarbeit geleistet.
Schnell und zuverlaessig.
Gruss, Ole
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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:35:23 GMT
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U. H. HQ:
http://www.slocomputers.com/sandra/
Website slocomputers was hacked 2 days ago by U. H. HQ.
Security was breached. Mp3 direct downloads and warez ftp sites was found here.
Nothing at this site is illegal by the way it is. We just provide direct links one click away.
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From: F.Knobloch@inis.de (Frank Knobloch)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Treiber för dArtBooks
Date: 12 Sep 98 16:23:06 GMT
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Hallo!
Weiss hier irgendjemand, wie man jetzt noch an die Treiber fuer diese
Notebooks
von DART kommt?
IPC hat sie wohl entwickelt, aber bei denen werden ich nicht fuendig.
Gruesse
Frank Knobloch
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From: "Peter Baral" <Peter.Baral@s-direktnet.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Neues Floppy?=
=?ISO-8859-1?Q? in Cube l=E4u?=
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?ft nicht?=
Date: 12 Sep 98 18:56:08 +0200
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Habe gerade mein neu erstandenes Floppy an das Cube mainboard
angeschlossen.
Nach dem Einschalten meldet der Rechner laufend
fd RECALIBRATE FAILED
Was ist zu tun damit das Ding l=8Auft?
BTW, wie soll das Floppy in den Cube eingebaut werden? Habe irgendwo
gelesen, dass eine =85ffnung in das Geh=8Ause "geschnitten" werden
muss...
Peter Baral Medienwerkstatt Muehlacker
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From: werner@ip.cubenet.de (Dr. Werner Eberl)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
Date: 12 Sep 1998 00:31:01 GMT
Organization: IP-Service
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brender <brender@itc.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
>Ist es möglich, ein ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT anzuschließen?
>Wenn ja, wie funktioniert das?
>Vielen Dank für Euree Hilfe
>Grüße Alex
>
Ja, das geht ganz ohne Probleme (bei mir zumindest). Einfach anschliessen,
Medium einlegen, Als NeXT, Dos oder Mac formatieren und draufrumschreiben,
wie man will.
Es muss natuerlich eine Version mit SCSI-Anschluss sein ;-)
ZIP ist empfehlenswert, wenn man Daten mit anderen austauschen will, die nur
ZIP haben.
Wenn es nur um Datensicherung geht, wuerde ich eher eine zweite Platte
draussen anschliessen. Den Strom fuer die Platte kriegt man locker mit einem
Y-Stueck von der internen Platte, und das SCSI-Kabel ist auch schnell
gepresst. hat auch den Vorteil, dass man das ZIP nicht extra ausschalten
muss, wenn man den Rechner ausschaltet (ausser man hat sein ZIP ueber ein
Relais angeschlossen, das vom NeXT-Netzteil gesteuert wird).
Gruesse,
Werner
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
Date: 13 Sep 1998 12:21:22 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6tgdc2$r0d$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <35F90CC4.831E6C55@itc.rwth-aachen.de> <6tcfc5$8lm@ip.ip.cubenet.de>
Dr. Werner Eberl <werner@ip.cubenet.de> wrote:
[...]
: Wenn es nur um Datensicherung geht, wuerde ich eher eine zweite Platte
: draussen anschliessen. Den Strom fuer die Platte kriegt man locker mit einem
Dabei sollte man aber bedenken:
- dass eine Datensicherung im Ernstfall oft nicht ausreicht.
- Man bei einer Datensicherungsplatte je nach verwendetem Verfahren
u.U. waehrend der Sicherung keine Sicherung hat (ueberschreiben
der alten Sicherung).
- Das alles nicht hilft, wenn der Blitz einschlaegt und beide
Platten sterben.
- Das alles nicht hilft, wenn das Betriebssystem der Meinung ist,
das Filesystem zerhacken zu muessen.
Ich wuerde grundsaetzlich nur auf wechselbare Medien sichern.
Baender oder MO oder meinetwegen auch ZIP...
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haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: Benne <mikego@geocities.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next,fido.ger.next
Subject: NE2000 Networkcard drivers for Openstep
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:25:12 +0200
Organization: Berlin
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Hello,
I just wanted to ask, if there are any NE2000 compatible networkadapter
driver for Openstep 4.2 available? If yes, where can I get the drivers?
Answers per e-mail to: bgreiner@gmx.de
Thank you
Hallo,
ich wollte nur einmal fragen, ob von Openstep 4.2 NE2000 kompatible
Netzwerkkarten unterstützt werden und wenn ja, wo bekomme ich die
Treiber?
Antwort bitte per Mail an: bgreiner@gmx.de
Danke.
Benjamin
From: Marcus Siemens <marcus.siemens@gmx.net>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: brauche NeXTStep 3.2 intel Bootdiskette
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:03:58 +0200
Organization: Kunden Newsserver NWU GmbH
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Ich habe ein akademische Paket, aber leider ohne Disketten.
Das ganze sollte auf einem ibm 300PL laufen, mit Matrox Mystique, IDE
Platte u. CD-ROM, sowie PS/2 Maus. Gibt es für all' diese Komponenenten
passende Treiber?
Marcus
From: reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de (Reinhard Wolf)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: NeXT CD ROM LW
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:55:56 GMT
Organization: University of Giessen, Germany
Message-ID: <35fce7f4.151411@news.uni-giessen.de>
das kleine schwarze eben....
Wer seines verkaufen moechte, kann mir ja mal ne Zahl in den
emailkasten werfen!
Gruesse
Reinhard
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From: agrewe@efi-nms.de (Andreas Grewe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OPENSTEP und Matrox Gx00 Grafikkarten?
Date: 14 Sep 1998 12:04:33 GMT
Organization: NetUSE Kommunikationstechnologie GmbH
Message-ID: <6tj0oh$du7$1@queens.netuse.de>
Hallo,
gibt es mittlerweile eigentlich einen Treiber fuer die Matrox-Karten der G100
bzw. G200 Reihe?
Nachdem nun weder die Mystique 220 noch die Millennium II laenger zu bekommen
sind, ist die Auswahl doch etwas arg eingeschraenkt.
Welche aktuellen Karten werden eigentlich ueberhaupt noch unterstuetzt?
Gruss
Andreas Grewe
From: Benne <mikego@geocities.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next,fido.ger.next
Subject: HP Deskjet 540 driver for Openstep 4.2
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:58:44 +0200
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Hello,
I just have a short question: Does anyone know if there is a freeware
driver available for the HP 540 Deskjet for Openstep 4.2.
The JetPilot is not free isn't it?
Answers please to: bgreiner@gmx.de
Thank you for your help
Benjamin
Date: 14 Sep 1998 16:16:39 EST
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: HP Deskjet 540 driver for Openstep 4.2
Message-ID: <1998Sep14.215255.25426@aurora.in-berlin.de>
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:52:55 GMT
In de.comp.sys.next Benne <mikego@geocities.com> wrote:
: I just have a short question: Does anyone know if there is a freeware
: driver available for the HP 540 Deskjet for Openstep 4.2.
: The JetPilot is not free isn't it?
: Answers please to: bgreiner@gmx.de
[Sorry, but you asked via Usenet, so you'll have to look for the
answer in the News...]
[Follow-up changed to one group only - de.comp.sys.next]
You might want to try "Dots" or GhostScript. (I don't know whether
Dots is Freeware, though.)
Ingmar
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Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de> wrote:
: : Ist es möglich, ein ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT anzuschließen?
: Ja, die SCSI-Variante.
: : Wenn ja, wie funktioniert das?
: Plug & Play, und zwar so, wie es sein sollte!
Ach so: Ein passendes Kabel oder einen Adapter NeXT-HD-SCSI1 auf
25pol-SCSI (angeblich wie an aelteren Macs) am ZIP brauchst Du
vermutlich extra; die kosten aber nicht die Welt...
Ingmar
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From: Chris_ASL-Hamburg@t-online.de (Christopher Dietz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Master und Clone Server
Date: 14 Sep 1998 08:09:18 GMT
Organization: ASL Hamburg
Message-ID: <6tiive$qu3$1@news00.btx.dtag.de>
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Ich habe vor kurzem einen 2. Server erst als Clone und dann als Master
konfiguriert. jetzt w=FCrde ich gerne die Useraccounts vom ehemaligen
Master auf den neuen transferieren.
any hints??
Chris
From: a9226931 <a9226931@unet.univie.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next,fido.ger.next
Subject: Re: NE2000 Networkcard drivers for Openstep
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:15:47 +0200
Organization: Vienna University, Austria
Message-ID: <35FD7973.93766D18@unet.univie.ac.at>
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To: bgreiner@gmx.de
Ja es gibt sie: Sie im peanuts-archiv nach.
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/system/driver/ethernet/
um genau zu sein. Hab's ausprobiert, es klappt.Sind NS3.3 Treiber.Das
sollte aber keinen Unterschied machen, das DriverKit ist dassselbe.
Christian Benesch
Benne wrote:
> Hello,
> I just wanted to ask, if there are any NE2000 compatible networkadapter
> driver for Openstep 4.2 available? If yes, where can I get the drivers?
> Answers per e-mail to: bgreiner@gmx.de
> Thank you
>
> Hallo,
> ich wollte nur einmal fragen, ob von Openstep 4.2 NE2000 kompatible
> Netzwerkkarten unterstützt werden und wenn ja, wo bekomme ich die
> Treiber?
> Antwort bitte per Mail an: bgreiner@gmx.de
> Danke.
>
> Benjamin
>
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: automatische Mail holen per POP/IMAP
Date: 15 Sep 1998 10:47:47 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / CC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6tlgkj$i01$1@newshost>
Hallo Experten,
unser Rechenzentrum stellt (notwendigerweise) den Mail-Mechanismus
um. Derzeit kann Mail.app an meinem Arbeitsplatz noch direkt in
das /usr/spool/mail/ Verzeichnis hineinsehen, demnaechst ist ein
Zugriff nur noch ueber POP3 oder IMAP moeglich.
Mit PopOver immer wieder zu Fuss oder ueber ein Script
regelmaessig per cron zu pollen scheint mir auch nicht
das Gelbe vom Ei zu sein, zumal mehrere Nutzer zu versorgen
sind. Am schoensten waere natuerlich ein IMAP Zugriff,
den Mail.app von sich aus automatisch macht, so wie es
momentan regelmaessig in /usr/spool/mail/ guckt. Aber
in den TODO Infos zu EnhanceMail steht dazu (leider):
Given Up On:
(*) Fetch mail with Pop/Imap (better leave that to Procmail.bundle too)
Procmail direkt ist auch wieder knifflig, denn der Mailhost,
auf dem die procmail scripts dann ja laufen, laeuft unter
Solaris, ich muesste dann also erstmal die mailapp-utils
portieren.
Am liebsten haette ich ja die Moeglichkeit, in Mail.app
Preferences unter Expert statt des Mail Dir ein Programm
anzugeben, das regelmaessig zum Abholen aufgerufen wird.
Gibt's so 'nen Weg ? Oder eine andere huebsche Alternative ?
Sie muss handlich sein, da ich sie fuer mehrere Benutzer
weitgehend zentral konfigurieren koennen muss.
Detlev
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Gleitende Durchschnitte in QUANTRIX?
Date: 15 Sep 1998 16:26:39 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <6tm4fv$2ib$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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Hi,
weiß jemand hier, ob und wie man gleitende Durchnschnitte in Quantrix
berechnen kann?
Wenn ich z.B. das Durchnschnittseinkommen eines ganzen Jahres haben will,
kann ich ja sowas wie MittleresEinkommen = avg(Woche1 .. Woche 52) machen.
Aber was tue ich, wenn ich das Durchschnittseinkommen der jeweils letzten 10
Wochen haben will?
Ist ja eigentlich keine so ungewöhnliche Aufgabe, aber ich finde keine
Möglichkeit dafür.
Danke für jeden Tip!
Tschau
Uli
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From: buckaroo@blackbox.free.de (Mark Nowiasz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Mutt 0.93i auf NeXTStep portiert.
Date: 15 Sep 1998 17:39:00 GMT
Organization: Blackbox - The Dark Site
Message-ID: <slrn6vt9hj.ac4.buckaroo@blackbox.free.de>
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User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.3 (UNIX)
Moin, endlich kam ich dazu, mutt für NeXTstep zu portieren,
läuft bisher praktisch fehlerfrei.
Die Zeichen werden zudem korrekt konvertiert (NeXT -> latin1 und
umgekehrt), so daß Umlaute problemlos möglich sind, pgp
funktioniert anstandslos, MIME ditto..
Allerdings sind noch nicht alle Funktionen getestet :-)
Ich teste noch ca. eine Woche, dann lad ich den mutt auf
die üblichen PGP-Server hoch, im Moment nur als Binary
(manche Hacks sind etwas unelegant, die nächste Version
wird auch als Source vorliegend sein).
Es gibt jedoch ein, zwei Tweaks / Bugs:
- Control + C funktioniert nicht ganz richtig, das Programm
läßt sich erst nach einem weiteren Tastendruck beenden.
- Wenn die Mailbox (/usr/spool/mail/<user>) nicht existiert
(Mail.app löscht die mailbox gerne), so startet mutt nicht,
die einfache Lösung ist: touch /usr/spool/mail/<user>
- Wenn man vor dem Versenden einer mail sein Geschreibsel noch
mal angucken will, und es sind Umlaute vorhanden, so sieht
das im Viewer etwas seltsam aus (NeXT-Zeichensatz durch die
Konvertierung Iso->NeXT gejagt), versand werden die Mails durchaus
richtig, sie sind auch noch korrekt editierbar, bloß etwas
eigenartig darstellbar :-)
Ich denke, man kann mit den Tweaks sehr gut leben :-)
Gruß,
Mark
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Gleitende Durchschnitte in QUANTRIX?
Date: 15 Sep 1998 17:04:44 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <6tm6nc$2ib$2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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ich schrieb::
> weiß jemand hier, ob und wie man gleitende Durchnschnitte in Quantrix
> berechnen kann?
Gelöst. :-) Man kann z.B. Woche[THIS - 9] etc. schreiben. Ist leider
nirgendwo klar gesagt, und da es extra [PREV] gibt, das ja dann dasselbe wie
[THIS - 1] ist, kommt man da leider nicht sofort drauf.
Tschau
Uli
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From: Benne <mikego@geocities.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next,fido.ger.next
Subject: GhostScript
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:09:16 +0200
Organization: Berlin
Message-ID: <35FEE58C.D8D11E55@geocities.com>
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Hallo,
ich wollte nur mal fragen, ob mir nicht einer mal auf deutsch erklären
kann, was ich tun muß, damit ich mit GhostScript mit meinem HP Deskjet
unter Openstep 4.2 / Intel drucken kann. Das System habe ich ganz neu
und daher kenne ich mich noch nicht so gut aus und verstehe die
englische Anleitung nicht ganz.
Es wäre sehr nett, wenn mir jemand auf deutsch eine Schritt-für-Schritt
Anleitung geben könnte.
email: bgreiner@gmx.de
Danke,
Benjamin
From: haibach@ben13.unm.edu (frederick george haibach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next,fido.ger.next
Subject: Re: GhostScript
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next,fido.ger.next
Date: 15 Sep 1998 22:27:43 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <6tmpkv$1eko$1@lynx.unm.edu>
References: <35FEE58C.D8D11E55@geocities.com>
Please post your replies to this thread (english or german). I'm
interested in seeing the nitty-gritty details.
Fred
From: werner@ip.cubenet.de (Dr. Werner Eberl)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
Date: 15 Sep 1998 08:03:48 GMT
Organization: IP-Service
Message-ID: <6tl714$dvk@ip.ip.cubenet.de>
References: <35F90CC4.831E6C55@itc.rwth-aachen.de> <6tcfc5$8lm@ip.ip.cubenet.de> <6tgdc2$r0d$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Tatseachlich mache ich es so, dass ich die externe Platte an einer
zweiten NeXT-station habe und ueber NFS sichere.
Da so eine Station ja fast nix mehr kostet, ist das vielleicht generell
ein empfehlenswertes Verfahren, weil man dann im Fall eines Crashes
einfach mit der anderen Maschine weiterarbeiten kann.
Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>Dabei sollte man aber bedenken:
>
>- dass eine Datensicherung im Ernstfall oft nicht ausreicht.
>- Man bei einer Datensicherungsplatte je nach verwendetem Verfahren
> u.U. waehrend der Sicherung keine Sicherung hat (ueberschreiben
> der alten Sicherung).
>- Das alles nicht hilft, wenn der Blitz einschlaegt und beide
> Platten sterben.
>- Das alles nicht hilft, wenn das Betriebssystem der Meinung ist,
> das Filesystem zerhacken zu muessen.
>
>Ich wuerde grundsaetzlich nur auf wechselbare Medien sichern.
>Baender oder MO oder meinetwegen auch ZIP...
From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next,fido.ger.next
Subject: Re: GhostScript
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:55:49 +0100
Organization: KVI
Message-ID: <35FF8B25.7138D74A@KVI.NL>
References: <35FEE58C.D8D11E55@geocities.com>
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Benne wrote:
> =
> Hallo,
> =
> ich wollte nur mal fragen, ob mir nicht einer mal auf deutsch erkl=E4re=
n
> kann, was ich tun mu=DF, damit ich mit GhostScript mit meinem HP Deskje=
t
> unter Openstep 4.2 / Intel drucken kann. Das System habe ich ganz neu
> und daher kenne ich mich noch nicht so gut aus und verstehe die
> englische Anleitung nicht ganz.
> Es w=E4re sehr nett, wenn mir jemand auf deutsch eine Schritt-f=FCr-Sch=
ritt
> Anleitung geben k=F6nnte.
> email: bgreiner@gmx.de
> =
> Danke,
> Benjamin
Mag het ook in het Nederlands?
Marcel
From: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OmniWeb im Netz
Date: 16 Sep 1998 10:08:40 GMT
Organization: Oldenburger Informations-Systeme, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6to2n8$dvq@hazel.north.de>
Ich habe zwei Computer (Next + Sparc, beide mit NS3.3): A mit Modem, B
ohne.
Ich kann ppp auf A starten und OmniWeb auf A benutzen.
Aber es gelingt mir nicht, OmniWeb auf B zum laufen zu bringen. Es sieht
offenbar die auf A existierende ppp-Verbindung nicht.
Was kann oder muss ich da tun?
Ich moechte ppp auf A starten und dann auf B OmniWeb benutzen.
Fuer sachdienliche Hinweise bedanke ich mich hier schon mal im voraus.
Gerriet.
From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: brauche NeXTStep 3.2 intel Bootdiskette
Date: 16 Sep 1998 12:19:20 GMT
Message-ID: <6toac8$50b$1@news00.btx.dtag.de>
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Hallo Marcus,
bei der Mystique sehe ich mit 3.2 so meine Schwierigkeiten.
Gruß
Alex
Marcus Siemens schrieb in Nachricht <35FC4F5E.B4F5039D@gmx.net>...
>Ich habe ein akademische Paket, aber leider ohne Disketten.
>
>Das ganze sollte auf einem ibm 300PL laufen, mit Matrox Mystique, IDE
>Platte u. CD-ROM, sowie PS/2 Maus. Gibt es für all' diese Komponenenten
>passende Treiber?
>
>
>
>Marcus
>
From: kuranda@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Anke Ehlers)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NE2000 Networkcard drivers for Openstep
Date: 16 Sep 1998 15:35:57 GMT
Message-ID: <6tolst$88m$1@fu-berlin.de>
References: <35FBE3D8.FC80DF16@geocities.com> <35FD7973.93766D18@unet.univie.ac.at>
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Cc: mikego@geocities.com
In <35FD7973.93766D18@unet.univie.ac.at> a9226931 wrote:
> Ja es gibt sie: Sie im peanuts-archiv nach.
>
> ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/system/driver/ethernet/
>
> um genau zu sein. Hab's ausprobiert, es klappt.Sind NS3.3 Treiber.Das
> sollte aber keinen Unterschied machen, das DriverKit ist dassselbe.
Oder unter
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/driver/intel/NE2000.tar.gz.
Siehe dazu auch meinen Artikel in der NEXTTOYOU Sommer 97
Der Treiber laeuft jetzt auch unter DR2.
Anke
From: "Rüdiger Lohmann" <ruediger.lohmann@charite.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: WTB NeXT-Tastatur
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:50:28 +0200
Organization: Die Netz-Werker GmbH
Message-ID: <905971812.331299@srv1.Netz-Werker.NET>
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Cache-Post-Path: srv1.Netz-Werker.NET!unknown@dyn04.privat.in-berlin.com
Ich suche eine deutsche non-ADB Tastatur ggf. mit non-ADB Mouse oder als
Starter-Paket.
Angebote bitte an
ruediger.lohmann@charite.de
Danke.
Ruediger
From: szallies@energotec.de (Constantin Szallies)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OO Softwareentwickler/-entwicklerin Standort Düsseldorf gesucht
Date: 17 Sep 1998 08:12:36 GMT
Organization: TechNet GmbH
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Sep 1998 08:12:36 GMT
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: automatische Mail holen per POP/IMAP
Date: 17 Sep 1998 12:45:30 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development
Message-ID: <6tr09a$aft@alice.turbocat.de>
References: <6tlgkj$i01$1@newshost>
droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) wrote:
>Hallo Experten,
>
>unser Rechenzentrum stellt (notwendigerweise) den Mail-Mechanismus
>um. Derzeit kann Mail.app an meinem Arbeitsplatz noch direkt in
>das /usr/spool/mail/ Verzeichnis hineinsehen, demnaechst ist ein
>Zugriff nur noch ueber POP3 oder IMAP moeglich.
Fetchmail.
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: webobjects-programmierer gesucht!!
Date: 17 Sep 1998 16:30:34 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6trdfa$1eq$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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"Peter Pöllinger" <Peter.Poellinger@idgruppe.com> wrote:
>hi there, i-d, eine der fuehrenden europaeischen web-agencies sucht fuer
>seinen neuen online-dienst cycosmos webobjects programmierer ... bitte
>mailt/faxt mir oder ruft kurz durch...
Hihi, "Death March" :-)
Trotzdem, sauberes Stueck Arbeit, alle Achtung.
Chris
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Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: WOW!!! WHAT A STORY ONLINE!!!
Date: 17 Sep 1998 19:23:12 GMT
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Regards.
P.S.- The website address is http://www.despotovic.net
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Subject: Re: GhostScript
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In de.comp.sys.next Benne <mikego@geocities.com> wrote:
: ich wollte nur mal fragen, ob mir nicht einer mal auf deutsch erklären
: kann, was ich tun muß, damit ich mit GhostScript mit meinem HP Deskjet
: unter Openstep 4.2 / Intel drucken kann. Das System habe ich ganz neu
: und daher kenne ich mich noch nicht so gut aus und verstehe die
: englische Anleitung nicht ganz.
: Es wäre sehr nett, wenn mir jemand auf deutsch eine Schritt-für-Schritt
: Anleitung geben könnte.
In der NEXTTOYOU - dem weltweit einzigen NEXTSTEP-/OPENSTEP-/Rhapsody-
Magazin - ist in Ausgabe 2/98 ein Artikel von Anke Ehlers erschienen
"Drucken wie von Geisterhand - Die Verwendung von GhostScript
als Druckertreiber fuer Nicht-PostScript-Drucker",
der alle noetigen Schritte beschreibt. (Und Du hast Glueck: Das Beispiel
wird anhand eines HP DeskJet erklaert! :-)
Gruss,
Ingmar
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Die NEXTTOYOU freut sich ueber jeden neuen Abonnenten, weil dadurch
die Zukunft des Projektes auf tragfaehigere Fuesse gestellt wird.
Die NEXTTOYOU kann im WorldWideWeb unter www.nexttoyou.de oder per
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From: werner@ip.cubenet.de (Dr. Werner Eberl)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OmniWeb im Netz
Date: 17 Sep 1998 04:45:22 GMT
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gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann) wrote:
>Ich habe zwei Computer (Next + Sparc, beide mit NS3.3): A mit Modem, B
>ohne.
>
>Ich kann ppp auf A starten und OmniWeb auf A benutzen.
>
>Aber es gelingt mir nicht, OmniWeb auf B zum laufen zu bringen. Es sieht
>offenbar die auf A existierende ppp-Verbindung nicht.
>Was kann oder muss ich da tun?
>Ich moechte ppp auf A starten und dann auf B OmniWeb benutzen.
>
>Fuer sachdienliche Hinweise bedanke ich mich hier schon mal im voraus.
>
> Gerriet.
Das kann so auch nicht gehen, ausser Du hast von Deinem Provider zwei
IP-Adressen zugeteilt bekommen, wo der dann noch wissen muss, welche er ueber
welche routen soll. Wenn das nicht so ist, bleibt Dir dieses Problem auf der
Ebene der IP-Adressen.
Mein Vorschlag waere, einen Proxy-Server auf A zu installieren. Squid oder
auch den alten CERN-Server. Damit sollte WWW dann klappen, wenn Du im Onmiweb
(am besten auf A und auf B) A als Proxy eintraegst.
CU,
Werner
From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: CD Designer?
Date: 18 Sep 1998 21:14:07 GMT
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Hi Leute!
Einer meiner Kunden (ja, es gibt noch einige wenige die NS/OS einsetzen, man
glaubt es kaum) moechte gerne CD-Designer kaufen, leider scheint der Autor
auf einer Weltreise zu sein. Weiss jemand wie man an die
Autoren/Distributoren herankommt? Telefon? Fax? Email? Trommeln?
Rauchzeichen? :-)
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From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Erste Erfahrungen und Fragen zu OpenStep
Date: 20 Sep 1998 09:07:41 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
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Hallo,
ich habe gestern zum ersten Mal OpenStep (4.2) installiert. Die
Installation verlief zwar nicht so problemlos, wie in der Anleitung
beschrieben, aber nach einer durchkaempften Nacht funktioniert jetzt
alles. Trozdem habe ich noch ein paar Fragen:
Ich habe einen ATX-Rechner, dessen Ausschalter auf kurzen Druck in den
sleep-mode geht und bei Betaetigung >4sec ausschaltet. Beim booten von
OpenStep kommt die Meldung Power Management ready, danach ist diese
Funktion des Ausschalters blockiert. Dafuer gibt es in den preferences
ein Batteriesymbol, unter dem ich zwischen "volle Leistung" und
Energiesparend waehlen kann. Wenn ich das 2. einstelle, funktioniert
der Ausschalter wieder wie gewohnt. Wenn OpenStep hier also eingreifen
kann, dachte ich, kann es beim shutdown vielleicht wie W95 auch
automatisch abschalten. Leider funktioniert das aber nicht. Deshalb,
gibt es eine Moglichkeit, OpenStep beizubringen, ein ATX-Board
bzw. Netzteil abzuschalten?
Wenn ich die caps-lock Taste auf meiner PS/2-Tastatur druecke, bleibt
kurze Zeit spaeter alles stehen, und selbst die reset-Kombination der
Tastatur hat keine Wirkung mehr, sodass nur der Resetschalter
bleibt. Ich habe jetzt erstmal meine Tastaturbelegung so geaendert,
dass es keine caps-lock Taste mehr gibt (dafuer eine CTRL-Taste
mehr). Ich dieses Problem bekannt und gibt es dafuer eine bessere
Loesung?
Und schliesslich: wenn ich einen nicht-PostScript-Laserdrucker
anschliessen will, wird das von OpenStep unterstuetzt oder muss ich es
wie bei Linux ueber einen GhostScript-Filter machen?
vielen Dank fuer alle Antworten,
Joerg
From: th.hensel@mc-wetter.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Erste Erfahrungen und Fragen zu OpenStep
Date: 20 Sep 1998 10:16:41 GMT
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Cc: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de
> ich, kann es beim shutdown vielleicht wie W95 auch
> automatisch abschalten. Leider funktioniert das aber nicht. Deshalb,
> gibt es eine Moglichkeit, OpenStep beizubringen, ein ATX-Board
> bzw. Netzteil abzuschalten?
Leider nein !
> Wenn ich die caps-lock Taste auf meiner PS/2-Tastatur druecke, bleibt
> kurze Zeit spaeter alles stehen, und selbst die reset-Kombination der
> Tastatur hat keine Wirkung mehr, sodass nur der Resetschalter
> bleibt. Ich habe jetzt erstmal meine Tastaturbelegung so geaendert,
> dass es keine caps-lock Taste mehr gibt (dafuer eine CTRL-Taste
> mehr). Ich dieses Problem bekannt und gibt es dafuer eine bessere
> Loesung?
siehe http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2633.htmld/2633.html
> Und schliesslich: wenn ich einen nicht-PostScript-Laserdrucker
> anschliessen will, wird das von OpenStep unterstuetzt oder muss ich es
> wie bei Linux ueber einen GhostScript-Filter machen?
ja - bzw. es gibt auch kommerzielle Software ...
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:11:05 +0200
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Subject: Suche defekten AcerNote 350
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:16:10 +0200
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zum Ausschlachten. Es kommt mir besonders auf das Display an.
Biete 100 Mack.
siegel@bigfoot.de
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Subject: Oxyd auf Turbomachine
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <360609d4.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 21 Sep 98 08:09:56 GMT
Hallo.
Hat jemand Oxyd auf einer Turbo-color zum laufen bekommen? Auf einer allen
25MHz-Maschinen und 50MHz-Pyro laeuft das Teil einwandfrei. Auf der Turbo
bekomme ich "unknown server (102)" (im README sind die Turbos auch nicht
explizit aufgefuehrt ...).
Sven
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From: ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de (Benjamin Hell)
Subject: CubX und Keyboard-Layout
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Message-ID: <36062c86.0@news.uni-bielefeld.de>
Date: 21 Sep 1998 12:37:58 +0200
Liebe NeXT-Gemeinde,
Ich habe hier eine Turbo Station mit NS3.3 und
dem CubX-Server 5.0 am Laufen. Dummerweise ist
das Keyboard-Layout unter X komplett konfus,
z.B. sind einige Tasten nicht da (Space, e, a).
Mein unter NS eingestelltes Layout ist NeXTUSA
(oder "ahnlich) und es gibt auch sonst keine
Xmodmap, die mir das Layout dureinanderbringen
k"onnte...:-(
Weiss hier jemand Rat?
Gr"usse,
Ben
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Subject: Re: CubX und Keyboard-Layout
References: <36062c86.0@news.uni-bielefeld.de>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <36062f14.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 21 Sep 98 10:48:52 GMT
ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de (Benjamin Hell) wrote:
>Liebe NeXT-Gemeinde,
>
>Ich habe hier eine Turbo Station mit NS3.3 und
>dem CubX-Server 5.0 am Laufen. Dummerweise ist
>das Keyboard-Layout unter X komplett konfus,
>z.B. sind einige Tasten nicht da (Space, e, a).
Bei mir (CubX mit Enwicklerumgebung, weisse Hardware) gibt es die Files
.fvwmrc
.twmrc
welche vielleicht auch an der Tastaturbelegung rumspielen koennten.
Sven
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From: Alexander Peuchert <peuc@comnets.rwth-aachen.de>
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Subject: alte NeXT-Station
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:58:52 +0200
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hi
ich hab ne alte NeXT-Station gefunden. sieht ja echt cool aus, nur
booten will sie nicht mehr ...
beim starten kommt nur SCSI-ERROR!!!
innen drin sieht alles okay aus ... 1GD-Festplatte, richtig verkabelt
und vor nem jahr soll sie in diesem zustand funktioniert haben
kann mir jemand nen tip geben !?!
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From: th.hensel@mc-wetter.de
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Subject: NFS - SGI O2 - Next Problem
Date: 22 Sep 1998 09:08:39 GMT
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Hallo !
Ich hab da ein Problem:
wenn ich von einer O2 (6.3 mit aktuellen Patches) ein
Verzeichnis mounte, sieht mein Next nicht immer alle Files darin
(readdir(), ls oder FileManager, egal welches Programm).
Beispiel:
in /stripe0/test liegen meinetwegen 1102 files drinne, auf der
gemounteten Seite sieht der NeXT aber nur 204 files ????
Dies kann auf verschiedenen Next33p1 - Systemen reproduziert
werden. Nein, Es liegt nicht an file permissions oder Hardware
Einstellungen.
Wenn ich das Verzeichnis auf ner LINUX Kiste mounte, sind
natuerlich 1102 files drin.
Woran liegt es ?
NFS2 (SGI) <-> NFS (Next) Problem, mount -Einstellungen, BUG ?
Werden unsere Next jetzt zu alt ?
Wer kann helfen ?
Ciao,
Thomas
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From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: alte NeXT-Station
Date: 22 Sep 1998 08:20:45 GMT
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> ich hab ne alte NeXT-Station gefunden. sieht ja echt cool aus, nur
> booten will sie nicht mehr ...
> beim starten kommt nur SCSI-ERROR!!!
> innen drin sieht alles okay aus ... 1GD-Festplatte, richtig
verkabelt
> und vor nem jahr soll sie in diesem zustand funktioniert haben
>
fast unwahrscheinlich, denn dies ist sicher ein Plattenproblem,
wenn draussen nichts sonst angeschlossen ist.
Nochmals Kabel und vor allem Jumper pruefen!
1 GB ist keine NeXT-Platte, die ist meist nachgeruestet und
korrekt gejumpert werden.
so long,
jens ch. gloede
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From: joergk@s51.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NeXTtex?
Date: 22 Sep 1998 12:04:54 GMT
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Hallo,
nach meiner Erstinstallation von OpenStep 4.2 habe ich beim Rumstoebern
eine manpage fuer tex gefunden, in der steht, tex muesste seperat
installiert werden und befindet sich als NeXTTeX.pkg auf der
NeXTStep3.3 CD. Ich habe aber nur eine OpenStep 4.2 CD, auf der kein
tex ist. Kann ich das Packet trozdem irgendwo her bekommen?
Joerg
From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Q: Laeuft folgende HW mit OS 4.2?
Date: 22 Sep 1998 12:37:51 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6u85mv$9vm$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Hallo Leute,
wir beabsichtigen, uns ein paar Rechner und einen
Drucker zu kaufen. Laeuft folgende Konfiguration
mit OpenStep 4.2?
- Motherboard ASUS P2BS mit Intel BX - Chipsatz und
Adaptec AIC7890 U2W-SCSI Controller (Onboard),
400 MHz INTEL - Pentium II, 128 MB SDRAM
- 4,5 GB IBM 9ES DDRS-34560 Festplatte
- Thosiba 32-fach Speed XM-6201 CD-ROM
- Crative Labs Soundblaster 16 Value PnP
- 8 MB Matrox Millenium G200 Grafikkarte
- 3Com 3C900 (PCI, 10 Mbit, RJ45 & BNC) Netzwerkkarte
Desweiteren wollen wir uns einen Drucker kaufen
HP Color LaserJet 5 Printer mit Postscriptlevel 2
und JetDirect - Schnittstelle. Gibt es dafuer Treiber
(oder kriegt man den event. ueber JetPilot zum laufen ??)
Fuer Antworten vielen Dank
Ciao
Martin
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Display Driver fuer Trident 9397 / IBM Thinkpad 770
Date: 22 Sep 1998 16:42:44 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Hi,
weiss jemand, ob es einen Treiber fuer den Trident Cyber 9397
Chipsatz fuer NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP oder Rhapsody gibt?
Dieser Chipsatz findet sich u.a. im IBM Thinkpad 770 und
Twinhead EX 23TG.
TIA
Axel
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From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Partition verschwunden?
Date: 22 Sep 1998 16:54:30 GMT
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nach einem systemcrash einer Intel-OpenStep-Maschine, wurde die Kiste
gebooted, aber antatt ein schoenes Login-panel zu zeigen kam nut der Prompt
#
Ein fsck förderte die Meldung "Bad Superblok, magic Number wrong" zutage.
Die Maschine hat eine 2GB Startpartition und eine 4,5 GB Datadisk die in
drei Partitionen aufgeteilt ist (2x2GB und der Rest).
Die zweite Partition auf der Datadisk macht noch immer probleme. Nach einem
fsck -P kann ich die kiste mit
"exit" zum Login-Panel bringen, die zweite Partition der Datadisk mounted
allerdings nicht.
Ich versuchte, den alternate superblock (16) anzugeben mit folgenden
kommandos:
fsck -b 16 /dev/sd1b
fsck -b 16 /dev/rsd1b
Fehlschlag
Ein manueller mount klappt auch nicht.
Gibt eis eine kleine Chance an meine (ungesicherten) Daten zu kommen?
Hier ein Ausschnitt der Messages:
Sep 22 12:11:23 titus mach: sd1: Target aborted command; FATAL.
Sep 22 12:11:23 titus mach: target:1 lun:0 op:Write block:336
blockCount:4
Sep 22 12:12:39 titus mach: sd1: Target aborted command; FATAL.
Sep 22 12:12:39 titus mach: target:1 lun:0 op:Write block:336
blockCount:4
Sep 22 12:29:49 titus mach: sd1: Target aborted command; FATAL.
Sep 22 12:29:49 titus mach: target:1 lun:0 op:Write block:336
blockCount:4
Sep 22 12:38:43 titus mach: Adaptec2940 timeout
Sep 22 12:38:43 titus mach: a2940_0: Resetting SCSI Bus 0 (I/O Timeout)...
Sep 22 12:38:43 titus mach: sd1: Bus Reset Detected; Retrying.
Sep 22 12:38:43 titus mach: target:1 lun:0 op:Write block:336
blockCount:4
Sep 22 12:38:43 titus mach: sd1: Bus Reset Detected; Retrying.
Sep 22 12:38:43 titus mach: target:1 lun:0 op:Read block:1414688
blockCount:16
Sep 22 12:38:43 titus mach: sd1: Bus Reset Detected; Retrying.
Sep 22 12:38:43 titus mach: target:1 lun:0 op:Read block:4264336
blockCount:16
Sep 22 12:38:43 titus mach: sd1: Bus Reset Detected; Retrying.
Sep 22 12:38:43 titus mach: target:1 lun:0 op:Read block:4264352
blockCount:16
Sep 22 12:38:53 titus mach: sd0: UNIT ATTENTION; Retrying.
Sep 22 12:38:53 titus mach: target:0 lun:0 op:Read block:114675
blockCount:8
Sep 22 12:38:53 titus mach: sd1: No error to report; Retrying.
Sep 22 12:38:53 titus mach: target:1 lun:0 op:Write block:336
blockCount:4
Sep 22 12:40:12 titus mach: sd1: No error to report; Retrying.
Sep 22 12:40:12 titus mach: target:1 lun:0 op:Write block:2824976
blockCount:6
Sep 22 12:48:53 titus mach: sd1: Target aborted command; FATAL.
Sep 22 12:48:53 titus mach: target:1 lun:0 op:Write block:336
blockCount:4
Bin verzweifelt und daher für jeden Tip dankbar
Alex
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: NeXTtex?
Message-ID: <1998Sep22.220901.24387@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
Organization: INDIVIDUAL NETWORK Berlin
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:09:01 GMT
Joerg Kollmann <joergk@s51.informatik.uni-bremen.de> wrote:
: nach meiner Erstinstallation von OpenStep 4.2 habe ich beim Rumstoebern
: eine manpage fuer tex gefunden, in der steht, tex muesste seperat
: installiert werden und befindet sich als NeXTTeX.pkg auf der
: NeXTStep3.3 CD. Ich habe aber nur eine OpenStep 4.2 CD, auf der kein
: tex ist. Kann ich das Packet trozdem irgendwo her bekommen?
Es empfiehlt sich, statt des (veralteten) NeXTTeX-Paketes das
tetex-Paket zu installieren.
[aus dem teTeX-FAQ:]
0) Where can I get the teTeX distribution?
The primary site is in germany:
ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de:/pub/comp/tex/teTeX
Mirror sites:
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/systems/unix/teTeX
ftp://ftp.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/unix/teTeX
ftp://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/pub/tex/teTeX/
ftp://ftp.duke.edu/tex-archive/systems/unix/teTeX
ftp://sunsite.auc.dk/pub/tex/ctan/systems/unix/teTeX/
The following form provides a good help for downloading teTeX:
http://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/search/tetex.html
oder
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/text/TeX/unix/
oder
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/next/Text/tex/teTeX/
HTH,
Ingmar
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Subject: Kopieren funktioniert nicht mehr richtig
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3608b0b6.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 23 Sep 98 08:26:30 GMT
Hallo.
Seit einer Woche faellt mir bei Backups (black, NS3.3, alle Patches) immer
wieder auf, dass die von /tmp auf ZIP-Disketten oder auf eine andere
Festplatte kopierten Pakete nicht mit den Originalen uebereinstimmen
(Groessenordnung 1Byte Abweichung). Kopieren tue ich normalerweise mit dem
Workspace (D&D). Nach zwei-/dreimaligem Kopieren stimmen die Dateien dann
100% ueberein.
Koennte dies ein Vorbote eines Plattencrashes (das waere die dritte und
letzte 1GB Seagate die mir nach 1 Jahr wegstirbt :-(() sein, oder gibt es
noch andere Erklaerungen? (keine Fehlermeldungen von der Platte bis jetzt und
laufen tut sie eigentlich auch ganz gut ...)
Oder:
Ich habe ungefaehr zur gleichen Zeit, als sich der Fehler zum ersten mal
bemerkbar machte, mein mono-25MHz-Board (32MB) gegen ein total
unterbestuecktes color-Turboboard (16MB) ausgetauscht (wirklich nur die
boards ausgetauscht und natuerlich den Monitor). Dieses ist immer boese am
swappen (der richtige Speicher ist noch in der Post). Die zu kopierenden
Pakete sind von der Groessenordnung 3-100MB. Ist das vielleicht schon zuviel
fuer den Workspace-Kopiermechanismus, wenn die Maschine den meisten
Hauptspeicher in Gebrauch hat?
Erschuettert und dankbar fuer moralische Unterstuetzung aber auch Hilfe im
konkreten Fall
Sven
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From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: superblock reassign
Date: 23 Sep 1998 08:49:45 GMT
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Ich muß den superblock meiner 2. partition der 2 Platte reassignen
(neudeutsch)
folgendes kommando verwende ich:
fsck -bxxx /dev/rsd1b
und bekomme die meldung
alternate superblock location xxx
bad superblock
magic number wrong
use -b option to fsck to spcify location of an alternate superblock
to supply needed information see fsck(8)
Ich habe schon mehrere verschiedene superblocks (disk /dev/rsd1b - scan)
ausprobiert, bekomme aber
immer wieder die gleiche meldung
Was mache ich verkehrt?
Alex
From: "Matthias Schürhoff" <matthias@:-)factum-gmbh.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: superblock reassign
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:04:10 +0200
Organization: FACTUM Projektentwicklung und Management GmbH
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Alexander Dietz schrieb in Nachricht <6uacn9$jet$2@news00.btx.dtag.de>...
>Ich muß den superblock meiner 2. partition der 2 Platte reassignen
>(neudeutsch)
>
>folgendes kommando verwende ich:
>
>fsck -bxxx /dev/rsd1b
>
>und bekomme die meldung
>
>alternate superblock location xxx
>bad superblock
>magic number wrong
>use -b option to fsck to spcify location of an alternate superblock
>to supply needed information see fsck(8)
>
>Ich habe schon mehrere verschiedene superblocks (disk /dev/rsd1b - scan)
>ausprobiert, bekomme aber
>immer wieder die gleiche meldung
>
>Was mache ich verkehrt?
Hi,
das Problem hatte ich auch mal; ein Kollege erzählte mir dann irgendwas von
einem Offset, den man bei der Blocknummer dazuzählen muß, weil auf dem
Rawdevice noch ein paar Bootblöcke davorhängen oder so ähnlich (4, 8 oder
16?). Einfach mal ausprobieren:-)
Viel Erfolg!
Matthias
From: hans@hopf.fkp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de (Hans Rainer Voelger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Laeuft folgende HW mit OS 4.2?
Date: 24 Sep 1998 09:59:55 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6ud56r$8mu$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
Hallo,
In de.comp.sys.next article <6u85mv$9vm$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> you
wrote:
<--- snip --->
> - Motherboard ASUS P2BS mit Intel BX - Chipsatz und
> Adaptec AIC7890 U2W-SCSI Controller (Onboard),
> 400 MHz INTEL - Pentium II, 128 MB SDRAM
Mit diesem Board/Controller hatte ich keinen Erfolg, da
fuer den U2W kein passender Treiber aufzufinden war.
Ich habe schliesslich auf den alten 2940 UW zurueckgegriffen.
<--- snip --->
> Ciao
> Martin
Ciao
Hans Rainer
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From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Display Driver fuer Trident 9397 / IBM Thinkpad 770
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:22:26 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
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Axel Habermann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> weiss jemand, ob es einen Treiber fuer den Trident Cyber 9397
> Chipsatz fuer NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP oder Rhapsody gibt?
>
> Dieser Chipsatz findet sich u.a. im IBM Thinkpad 770 und
> Twinhead EX 23TG.
>
In der letzten NEXTTOYOU wurde meines erachtens unter der Rubrik APPSTOYOU ein
Treiber fuer IBM ThinkPads erwaehnt. In der Regel findet man diese dann auch auf
dem NEXTOYOU ftp-Server unter der aktuellen Heft-Angabe, daher solltest Du mal
einen Blick auf http://www.NEXTTOYOU.de werfen!
Leider liegt die NEXTTOYOU Ausgabe zuhause und ich kann Dir daher nicht sagen
wie der Treiber hieß. Aber Du kannst jemanden von der NEXTTOYOU Redaktion
fragen, die sollten das wissen.
Gruß Valentino
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Subject: FS:NEXT HARDWARE AND PARTS
From: sales@deepspacetech.com (DeepSpace Technologies)
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:19:48 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:19:48 EDT
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Now is the time to get that machine before it is too late.
Below are some systems we still have available:
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Monitor cable
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Price each $249.00
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17" Mono monitor N4000B(converted to non adb)
Keyboard
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Price each $1995.00
Other parts are available on our website!
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From: kuranda@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Anke Ehlers)
Subject: Re: CD Designer?
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In <6tuiev$bap$2@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> Hi Leute!
>
> Einer meiner Kunden (ja, es gibt noch einige wenige die NS/OS einsetzen,
an
> glaubt es kaum) moechte gerne CD-Designer kaufen, leider scheint der Autor
> auf einer Weltreise zu sein. Weiss jemand wie man an die
> Autoren/Distributoren herankommt? Telefon? Fax? Email? Trommeln?
> Rauchzeichen? :-)
Jaja, Carsten Gehle zu erreichen gleicht Lottospielen. Lizenzen kannste aber
auch bei RCN (info@rcn.de) in Berlin kaufen.
Anke
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
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Date: 25 Sep 1998 00:12:09 GMT
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: GhostScript
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:30:42 GMT
Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de> wrote:
: : ich wollte nur mal fragen, ob mir nicht einer mal auf deutsch erklären
: : kann, was ich tun muß, damit ich mit GhostScript mit meinem HP Deskjet
: : unter Openstep 4.2 / Intel drucken kann. Das System habe ich ganz neu
: : und daher kenne ich mich noch nicht so gut aus und verstehe die
: : englische Anleitung nicht ganz.
: : Es wäre sehr nett, wenn mir jemand auf deutsch eine Schritt-für-Schritt
: : Anleitung geben könnte.
: In der NEXTTOYOU - dem weltweit einzigen NEXTSTEP-/OPENSTEP-/Rhapsody-
: Magazin - ist in Ausgabe 2/98 ein Artikel von Anke Ehlers erschienen
: "Drucken wie von Geisterhand - Die Verwendung von GhostScript
: als Druckertreiber fuer Nicht-PostScript-Drucker",
: der alle noetigen Schritte beschreibt. (Und Du hast Glueck: Das Beispiel
: wird anhand eines HP DeskJet erklaert! :-)
Aufgrund der grossen Nachfrage (auch aus dem Ausland) ist der Artikel
jetzt unter
http://www.nexttoyou.de/artikel/1998/2/GS.htmld
auch online verfuegbar.
Danke an die NEXTTOYOU-Redaktion bzw. -Herausgeber fuer ihre
Bereitschaft, den Artikel auch auf diesem Wege zugaenglich zu
machen!
Ingmar
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From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Subject: b/w-Monitore
Message-ID: <1998Sep24.143841.9397@boba.rhein-main.de>
Sender: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Organization: Borris Balzer, RZ & DTP
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:38:41 GMT
Hallo,
gibt's eigentlich noch irgendwo eine Quelle fuer b/w-Monitore, neu oder
wenigstens halbwegs neuwertig?
Danke im Voraus
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: maus/tast. block nach caps-lock/control
Date: 25 Sep 1998 09:03:14 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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hallo,
auf einem neuen k6-2/asus(ali cs) habe ich trotz NeXTDeutsch-tastatur mit
OS4.1 zwei mal (nicht systematisch reproduzierbar) eine blokierte (PS/2) maus
und tastatur gehabt, beim zweiten mal weiss ich sicher, dass ich die
caps-lock (rsp. control) taste gedrueckt habe (siehe:
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2633.htmld/2633.html).
was kann ich tun um das system stabil zu bekommen?
vielen dank im vorraus, daniel
From: "Julius Bahr" <Bahr_Julius@lsg.musin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Apple Studio Display unter RDR2
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:16:48 +0200
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Hallo
ich hab gerade meinen neuen Monitor angeschlo=DFen und hab eine kleine
=DCberraschung erlebt: RDR2 l=E4=DFt nur maximal 640*480 Pixel zu. Das ist
nat=FCrlich unertr=E4glich. Ich hab schon versucht im Preferences "Kontollfeld"
auf eine andere Aufl=F6sung umzustellen. Es wird au=DFer 640*480 aber gar keine
andere angeboten. Irgendwelche Ideen ?
Danke f=FCr die Hilfe
Julius
From: "Julius Bahr" <Bahr_Julius@lsg.musin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re:Re: Apple Studio Display unter RDR2
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:24:03 +0200
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>Welchen Graphikkartentreiber hast Du installiert ? 640x480 klingt nach dem
>Standard-VGA-Treiber. Mit dem f=FCr die Karte passenden Treiber solten sich =
auch h=F6h
>ere Aufl=F6sungen erreichen lassen.
>
>Gru=DF Olaf
>
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>NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
>
Es sollte eigentlich alles funktionieren. Ich habe davor einen 21 Z=F6ller
daran angeschlo=DFen und es waren Aufl=F6sungen bis zu 1240*1024 m=F6glich. Dann
habe ich nur den Monitor vertauscht und jetzt habe ich das Problem, da=DF nur
noch mehr 640*480 gehen. Der Treiber f=FCr die Videohardware wird automatisch
installiert und hat auch funktioniert (PM8500/RDR2). Nur durch den Anschlu=DF
des Neuen gings nicht mehr.
Vielen Dank f=FCr eure weitere, hoffentlich das Problem verschwinden lassende
Hilfe
Julius
From: "Peter Pöllinger" <Peter.Poellinger@idgruppe.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: WebObjects/OOD in Hamburg
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:25:27 +0100
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hi there, i-d, eine der fuehrenden europaeischen web-agencies sucht fuer
seinen neuen online-service http://www.cycosmos.com v.a.
webobjects-entwickler und weitere OOD-programmierer sowie admins und und
und ... bitte mailt/faxt mir oder ruft kurz durch...
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In <6ugc5t$cv6$1@euler.space.net> "Julius Bahr" wrote:
> Hallo
>
> ich hab gerade meinen neuen Monitor angeschloßen und hab eine kleine
> Überraschung erlebt: RDR2 läßt nur maximal 640*480 Pixel zu. Das ist
> natürlich unerträglich. Ich hab schon versucht im Preferences "Kontollfeld"
> auf eine andere Auflösung umzustellen. Es wird außer 640*480 aber gar keine
> andere angeboten. Irgendwelche Ideen ?
> Danke für die Hilfe
Welchen Graphikkartentreiber hast Du installiert ? 640x480 klingt nach dem
Standard-VGA-Treiber. Mit dem für die Karte passenden Treiber solten sich auch höh
ere Auflösungen erreichen lassen.
Gruß Olaf
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: WebObjects-Gehaelter
Date: 29 Sep 1998 13:41:16 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6uqo1s$cph$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
Hallo zusammen,
der Bedarf an WebObjects-Programmierern ist gross, selbst
amerikanische Head-Hunter mischen auf dem deutschen Markt
mit, und in der juengsten Zeit werden zunehmend grosse
'High Profile' Projekte mit WO announcet.
Nachdem ich mich in der naechsten Zeit veraendern will, wollte
ich mal fragen, was ein WO Entwickler so verdient. Mit der
entsprechenden Berufserfahrung und akademischem Grad liegt man
als Informatiker im Augenblick bei 120 kDM/y, aber die Zahl
ergibt sich aus Statistiken ueber den Informatikmarkt ganz
allgemein, ich koennte mir vorstellen, dass Spezialisten wie
etwa WO-Entwickler durchaus besser verdienen. Was ist eure
Erfahrung?
Ihr koennt mir auch gerne Mail schicken (Spamblocker im Header,
bitte neuss@informatik.tu-darmstadt.de verwenden), bei Interesse
poste ich dann eine Zusammenfassung.
Gruesse aus DA, Chris
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NFS - SGI O2 - Next Problem
Date: 29 Sep 1998 15:09:17 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
Message-ID: <6uqt6t$aa65@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6u7pen$12p$4@unlisys.unlisys.net>
th.hensel@mc-wetter.de wrote:
: Hallo !
Hallo,
ich war im Urlaub, daher jetzt erst diese Antwort:
Dies liegt definitiv an Apple (vormals NeXT)! Apple zeigt sich
absolut unwillig, diesen ihnen bekannten und allein an ihnen
liegenden Fehler im NFS zu beseitigen. Dabei beduerfte es nur
des 'Abholens' und 'Einbindens' des entsprechenden SUN-Codes.
Sun hat diesen Fehler (versehentlich) eingeschleppt, aber
selbstverstaendlich sofort gefixt als der Fehler bekannt wurde -
so hat z.B. auch HP eine bereinigte Version!
NS 3.x und OS 4.x enthalten *alle* diesen Fehler und Apple
erklaert das erst mit (dem noch nicht erhaeltlichen) Rhapsody
alias MacOS X Server der Fehler behoben sei.
:
: Ich hab da ein Problem:
:
: wenn ich von einer O2 (6.3 mit aktuellen Patches) ein
: Verzeichnis mounte, sieht mein Next nicht immer alle Files darin
: (readdir(), ls oder FileManager, egal welches Programm).
:
: Beispiel:
:
: in /stripe0/test liegen meinetwegen 1102 files drinne, auf der
: gemounteten Seite sieht der NeXT aber nur 204 files ????
:
: Dies kann auf verschiedenen Next33p1 - Systemen reproduziert
: werden. Nein, [...]
:
: Woran liegt es ?
:
: NFS2 (SGI) <-> NFS (Next) Problem, mount -Einstellungen, BUG ?
Dies Problem tritt bei allen(!) nfs-exportierten Dateisystemen
des Typs xfs auf. Hintergrund ist, das 'Cookies' (nfs-Fachbegriff
hier!) bei diesem Dateisystem alle(!) 32 Bits benutzen und NS/OS
so ein Cookie als negativ und damit fehlerhaft ansieht und/oder
behandelt, sobald das hoechstwertige Bit gesetzt ist. Wir und
vor allem einige Mitarbeiter bei SGI haben an dem Problem laengere
Zeit hart gearbeitet.
Laut NFS-Spezifikation ist es *verboten*, Cookies zu interpretieren.
Andere, sprich aeltere Dateisysteme vergeben Cookies aufsteigend
von kleinen zu grossen Werten, so dass der Fehler (scheinbar) nicht
auftritt, moderne Systeme (wie xfs) benutzen andere Verfahren (Hashing?)
um Cookies zu ermitteln und kommen daher sehr frueh und nicht-sequentiell
auf 'grosse Werte' -> Fehlverhalten von NS/OS.
:
: Werden unsere Next jetzt zu alt ?
Ja, dank Apple.
: Wer kann helfen ?
Apple! Rennt ihnen die Bude ein!
*Noch* ist OPENSTEP ein Produkt(!) und als solches muss es (eigent-
lich) so fehlerfrei wie moeglich sein (Haftung)! Und - derzeit ist
NS/OS nicht NFS (version 2) konform!
Gruesse,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Stuttgarter NeXT User Gruppe Treffen am Montag 5.10.1998
Date: 29 Sep 1998 15:51:57 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
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Hallo Leute, in Vertretung von Michael uebernehme ich das heute...
es ist mal wieder Zeit fuer unseren ueblichen NeXT/Apple-Stammtisch.
Ich habe daher fuer den kommenden Montag den 5. 10. 1998 um 20.00h wieder
einen Tisch im Sherlock reserviert. Alle die an einem Kloenschnack mit der
Stuttgarter NeXT User Gruppe Interesse haben sollten mal vorbeikommen.
(Fuer alle die immer noch nicht wissen wo das Sherlock ist:
Stuttgart Vaihingen, Pfaffenwaldring 62, Tel. 0711/6874909)
Ich hoffe auf zahlreiches Erscheinen, Bis denne
Frank
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From: "Oliver Schirrmeister" <oschirr@abm.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Drucken
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:56:22 +0200
Organization: Nacamar Group Plc.
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Hallo zusammen,
ich möchte von einer Applikation aus drucken. Dazu verwende ich
momentan die Funktion printPSCode: der view-Klasse. Habe ich
nun von der Applikation aus die Möglichkeit zu erfahren, ob der
Ausdruck geklappt hat, oder muß ich mich da auf den PrintManager
verlassen.
Wie sieht es bei Druckerfehlern aus. Ich hatte da mal den Fall, daß
der Laserdrucker einen Fehler angezeigt und nichts gedruckt hatte,
der PrintManager jedoch das Dokument als gedruckt betrachtete.
Kann man das abfangen?
Gibt es weitere Möglichkeiten außer printPSCode zu drucken?
Danke
Oliver
From: ahoesch@on-luebeck.de (Andreas Hoeschler)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Handbücher für Lighthouse-Applikationen
Date: 29 Sep 1998 21:06:37 GMT
Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V.
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Hallo,
eine Bekannte von mir möchte sich gerne in die alten Lighthouse-Applikationen
(OpenWrite, Quantrix,...) einarbeiten, kommt aber mit der Online-Hilfe allein
nicht zurecht. Deshalb meine Frage, gab es je gedruckte Handbücher für diese
Applikationen und wenn ja, hat jemand die noch irgendwo rumliegen und würde
die günstig abgeben wollen?
Vielen Dank,
Andreas
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: EXKURSION: Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) 5. Oktober
Message-ID: <1998Sep30.000313.22290@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next
Sender: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
Organization: INDIVIDUAL NETWORK Berlin
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:03:13 GMT
EXKURSION DER BERLINER NeXT USER GROUP (BeNG)
*********************************************
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) unternimmt diesmal anstelle
ihres monatlichen Treffens in den IN-Berlin-Raeumen eine
EXKURSION zur Firma
infopark online service GmbH
Kitzingstrasse 15
12277 Berlin (Mariendorf)
am
Montag, den 5. Oktober 1998
Treff
*** 19.30 Uhr *** am Eingang
Ich bitte alle Interessenten, *puenktlich* zu sein, da es fuer
Zu-spaet-Kommer eventuell schwierig werden kann, unsere Gruppe
zu finden oder ueberhaupt in das Gebaeude zu gelangen!
THEMEN
Gegenstand der Exkursion werden folgende Punkte sein:
- Einsatz von NeXT-Technologien bei infopark
- Einsatz von Objective-C als Entwicklungssprache
- NeXTstations als Arbeitsplatzrechner :-)
Uns stehen der altgediente BeNGer Axel Habermann, der diese
Exkursion dankenswerterweise arrangiert hat, und aller Voraussicht
nach ein oder zwei Programmierer von infopark fuer Fragen zur
Verfuegung.
Die Exkursion ist kostenlos und steht allen NEXTSTEP und OPENSTEP-
bzw. Rhapsody-Interessierten offen, auch Einsteigern oder Leuten,
die erst einmal mehr ueber NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP und Rhapsody bzw.
MacOS X, das neue Betriebsssystem von Apple, erfahren wollen.
DANKESCHOEN
Herzlichen Dank an die Verantwortlichen bei infopark, dass die Firma
diese Exkursion und den Besuch in den Firmenraeumen moeglich gemacht
hat!
WIE KOMMT MAN HIN
[Sorry, fuer ein einmaliges Treffen gibt's keine ASCII-Karte! ;-]
* S-Bahn:
Linie S2 bis S-Bf. Marienfelde und ca. 10 Min. zu Fuss
S-Bahnhof Richtung Marienfelder Allee verlassen, Marienfelder Alle
Richtung S-Bahn-Bruecke gehen, Bruecke unterqueren und weiter in
dieser Richtung gehen; die Strasse heisst dann Grossbeerenstrasse.
Die naechste Strasse links (dauert etwas) ist bereits die
Kitzingstrasse.
* U-Bahn:
Linie U6 bis Alt-Mariendorf und ca. 15 Min. zu Fuss
Vom U-Bahnhof Alt-Mariendorf die Friedenstrasse nehmen; die Gross-
beerenstrasse ueberqueren und weiter geradeaus, die Verlaengerung
der Friedenstrasse heisst dann Lankwitzer Strasse. Die naechste
Strasse links ist die Porschestrasse; sie fuehrt direkt auf die
Kitzingstrasse Nr. 15 zu.
* Bus:
Linie 177 bis Haltestelle Koertingstrasse und ca. 3 Min. zu Fuss
oder
Linie 181 bis Haltestelle Porschestrasse und ca. 3 Min. zu Fuss
Unter http://www.infopark.de/de/contact/index.html findet sich
eine Anfahrtsskizze im Web.
RUECKFRAGEN
...bitte an 'ingmar@beng.org' (NeXTmail/MIME/PGP welcome!)
DAS UEBERNAECHSTE TREFFEN
Das darauffolgende Treffen findet am 2. November 1998 statt, dann
wieder wie gewohnt ab 20.00 Uhr in den Raeumen von IN-Berlin in
der Kiautschoustrasse 18 in Berlin-Wedding.
UEBER BeNG
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) existiert seit 1990 und ist
ein loser Zusammenschluss von NeXT-Interessierten.
Wir betreiben zwei Mailinglisten fuer Ankuendigungen bzw. fuer
Diskussionen rund um NeXT/Apple-Technologien und einen FTP-Server
fuer NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Programme (ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT).
Unser Rhapsody-FTP-Server (ftp://ftp.beng.org) befindet sich noch
im Aufbau. Naehere Informationen erhalten sie, indem Sie eine E-Mail
an about@beng.org schicken.
Wir treffen uns in der Regel am ersten Montag im Monat um 20.00 Uhr.
Wenn dieser Tag ein Feiertag ist, findet das Treffen in der
darauffolgenden Woche statt. Oft werden auch Vortraege gehalten oder
Vorfuehrungen arrangiert.
Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG)
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 39 03 93 03
Fax +49 30 / 39 03 93 04
WWW http://www.beng.org
E-Mail info@beng.org
UEBER infopark Online Service
Infopark wurde 1994 mit Sitz in Berlin gegruendet. Das Unternehmen
befasst sich mit Software fuer Content-Management und E-Commerce.
Infopark entwickelt als Schwerpunkt innovative Produkte fuer das
Internet.
Als ein fuehrendes Unternehmen fuer Internet-Technologien in
Deutschland ist Infopark Partner fuer die wirtschaftliche
Erschliessung des Internet. Das Hauptaugenmerk liegt dabei auf den
globalen Maerkten, die durch das Internet gebildet werden, und auf
dem Content-Managementsystem NPS.
Infopark kooperiert mit fuehrenden amerikanischen Unternehmen
der Informationstechnologie, wie beispielsweise SUN, Oracle und
Netscape. Zu Infoparks Kunden zaehlen Siemens, o.tel.o, Deutsche
Telekom, Bertelsmann-Springer Multimedica, das Land Berlin und
andere bekannte Unternehmen.
Tel +49 30 / 747 993-0
Fax +49 30 / 747 993-93
WWW http://www.infopark.de
E-Mail info@infopark.de
UEBER IN-BERLIN
Das Individual Network Berlin (IN-Berlin) bietet seit 1990
Internet-Zugang zur privaten Nutzung an. IN-Berlin arbeitet nicht
gewinnorientiert und ist seit 1996 ein eingetragener Verein, der
heute ueber seine 2 MBit/s-Anbindung mehr als 600 Teilnehmer mit
Internet-Konnektivitaet versorgt.
In den Vereinsraeumen des IN-Berlin e.V. in Berlin-Wedding finden
regelmaessig Usertreffen, Schulungen und Veranstaltungen befreundeter
Gruppen, z. B. der Berliner LINUX-Usergruppe (BeLUG) oder der Berliner
NeXT User Group (BeNG), statt.
Info-Kontakt IN-Berlin e. V.
Kiautschoustr. 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 45 49 43 43
Fax +40 30 / 45 49 43 44
WWW http://www.in-berlin.de
E-Mail info@in-berlin.de
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Handbücher für Lighthouse-Applikationen
Date: 30 Sep 1998 02:35:17 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <6us5d5$4of$2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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ahoesch@on-luebeck.de (Andreas Hoeschler) wrote:
> eine Bekannte von mir möchte sich gerne in die alten
> Lighthouse-Applikationen (OpenWrite, Quantrix,...) einarbeiten,
> kommt aber mit der Online-Hilfe allein nicht zurecht. Deshalb
> meine Frage, gab es je gedruckte Handbücher für diese
> Applikationen
Ja, sogar sehr ausführliche.
> und wenn ja, hat jemand die noch irgendwo rumliegen und würde
> die günstig abgeben wollen?
Auf den einschlägigen Servern geistern eigentlich zu allen Programmen
PS-Dateien der Handbücher herum (sind entsprechend riesig...); zu manchen
davon sind sie übrigens auch auf der Lighthiouse-CD (Parasheet fällt mir
gerade ein).
Vom Quantrix-Handbuch habe ich eine PDF-Version erstellt; die kann ich Dir
mailen, wenn Du willst.
Tschau
Uli
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Omniweb 3.0b8 startet nicht durch
Date: 1 Oct 1998 07:27:46 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
Message-ID: <6uvati$b7c7@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <F03zrv.MA@vergil.ping.de>
Lars-Ulrich Kahl (lars@vergil.ping.de) wrote:
: Was kann das sein ???
: Damit haengt sich Omniweb immer weg!
Das Problem ist OmniGroup bekannt und es wird daran gearbeitet.
Andrew Abernathy <andrew@omnigroup.com> postete dazu in den
OmniGroup Listen:
This is an update to the previous notice of an incompatibility between
OmniWeb 3.0 beta 8 and NeXT hardware. We now believe that the problem
may be more based on network configuration. We have been able to confirm
that beta 8 runs fine on some NeXT hardware, and we suspect that it may
give problems with certain configurations no matter what the hardware,
though we currently believe that the suspect configuration is fairly rare.
At this point we're still trying to nail down the exact problem and come
up with a solution.
The problem manifests itself as a crash while the application is attempting
to launch. An error message is logged to the system console (accessible via
the Tools menu). This error message concludes something like "failed to join
the address 224.12.56.19". If you are experiencing this problem, we
encourage you to send email to omniweb3@omnigroup.com with details of your
system configuration (hardware, OS version, whether or not you use PPP,
whether or not you have an ethernet card, etc). PPP users encountering this
problem may wish to check and make sure that their PPP connection is up as
this may have an effect on the behavior.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Handbücher für Lighthouse-Applikationen
Date: 30 Sep 1998 17:03:09 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6uto8d$dcg$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6uri4t$9p@merkur.smartsoft.de> <3611f76c.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <6ut15i$b8$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <36125903.47BFB7BD@lavielle.com>
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Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> wrote:
>Das ist eine Gute Idee (komprimierte PDFs zur verfügung stellen).
Vielleicht
>solltest Du Dich mit Uli absprechen und dann die Handbücher auf dem N2Y
>ftp-Server zur Verfügung stellen.
Klingt gut. Uli?
>BTW, ich habe zwar auch die Lighthouse Edu CD, kann mich aber beim besten
Willen
>nicht daran erinnern, daß dort Manuals für Quantrix oder OpenWrite dabei
waren
Geht mir auch so - ist wirklich lange her, und ich versuche ohnehin,
soweit moeglich auf OPENSTEP zu migrieren, damit ich nach Rhapsody
upgraden kann. Ich benutze von den Lighthouse apps nur noch Diagram
und gelegentlich ParaSheet fuer alte Tabellen.
GlyphiX wird ein perfekter Diagram-Clone, Mesa kann Quantrix
und ParaSheet ersetzen hm.. es wird so langsam. Und mit
Concurrence konnte ich mich eh nie anfreunden. :-P
Chris
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Handbücher für Lighthouse-Applikationen
Date: 30 Sep 1998 18:00:37 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <6utrk5$2dn$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <6uri4t$9p@merkur.smartsoft.de> <3611f76c.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <6ut15i$b8$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <36125903.47BFB7BD@lavielle.com> <6uto8d$dcg$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
> Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> wrote:
> >Das ist eine Gute Idee (komprimierte PDFs zur verfügung stellen).
> Vielleicht
> >solltest Du Dich mit Uli absprechen und dann die Handbücher auf dem N2Y
> >ftp-Server zur Verfügung stellen.
>
> Klingt gut. Uli?
Naja, ich hab' jetzt auch nicht alle hier. Ich weiß nur sicher, daß
1. das Parasheet-Handbuch auf der CD ist
2. aber nicht *alle* Programm-Handbücher auf der CD sind
3. sie aber an den unerwartetsten Stellen auftauchen. ;-)
Auf diese Weise bin ich irgendwo über das Quantrix-Handbuch gestolpert und
hab ein PDF draus gemacht (was aufgrund diverser Schwierigkeiten eine
mehrstündige Aktion war...)
Ich kann ja mal den Anfang machen, einen Ordner auf dem NEXTTOYOU-Server
anlegen und das Quantrix-PDF da reintun. Und wer auf weitere Handbücher
stößt, kann die dann konvertieren und und dort ablegen. OK?
> GlyphiX wird ein perfekter Diagram-Clone, Mesa kann Quantrix
> und ParaSheet ersetzen hm..
Kann Mesa Quantrix ersetzen?? Ich dachte, das ist ein ganz klassisches
Spreadsheet.
Tschau
Uli
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From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Subject: Omniweb 3.0b8 startet nicht durch
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:09:31 GMT
Was kann das sein ???
Damit haengt sich Omniweb immer weg!
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From: F.Knobloch@inis.de (Frank Knobloch)
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Subject: Re: WebObjects-Gehaelter
Date: 1 Oct 98 18:12:14 GMT
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In <6uqo1s$cph$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> Hallo zusammen,
>
> entsprechenden Berufserfahrung und akademischem Grad liegt man
> als Informatiker im Augenblick bei 120 kDM/y, aber die Zahl
> ergibt sich aus Statistiken ueber den Informatikmarkt ganz
Schade,
es gibt viele Firmen, die Leute suchen mit guter bis excellenter
Erfahrung auf dem allgemeinen Gebiet Openstep (So nennen
ich jetzt mal alles rund um Foundation,AppKit, EOF, WOF, OOP,...).
Das Problem (eines unserer) ist, das wir nicht zu den groessten gehoeren
(derzeit 13) und eigentlich för uns bezahlbare Leute suchen. So liegen die
GehÙlter zwischen 48K und 60K im ersten Jahr, allerdings in Kassel, wo
die Preise weitaus akzeptabler sind als in Frankfurt, Mönchen oder Stuttgart.
Gerade im Bereich der Produktentwicklung ist der Puffer eines solchen
Unternehmens
nicht so wie bei SAP oder Uptime, leider. ;.-)
Auf der einen Seite wird die Globalisierung hier verhoehnt, wenn die
schlechten
Grossen die guten Kleinen schlucken (Sun -> Lighthouse), aber durch hohe
Gehaltsforderungen hat man da echt ein Problem als Kleiner.
Geht's nur um die Kohle, dann ist es wohl recht Schade und wir werden weiter
unsere Bemöhungen in anderen LÙndern fortsetzen.
Wir haben hier einige Entwickler auf OS aufgebaut, was uns recht viel Geld
gekostet hat,
weil scheinbar keine qualifizierten Leute zu finden waren oder weil jeder
glaubt, nur
in Mönchen oder Redmond kann Geld verdient werden.
Diese Nachfrage, die noch weiter eskalieren wird ist natuerlich fuer ein
Unternehmen
wie das Unsrige nicht unbedingt superklasse, wobei natörlich die
kapitalistischen Wurzeln
in jedem einzelnen stecken und jeder versucht, das Beste för sich heraus zu
schlagen.
Was ich mit dem Schreiben will weiss ich selber nicht genau, vielleicht nur
unserem
hÙnderigenden Suchen nach bezahlbaren Leuten Ausruck verleihen.
Gruesse
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From: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Omniweb 3.0b8 startet nicht durch
Date: 1 Oct 1998 10:40:44 GMT
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Hallo,
On 09/30/98, Lars-Ulrich Kahl wrote:
>Was kann das sein ???
>Damit haengt sich Omniweb immer weg!
Der Fehler ist inzwischen behoben. Auf ftp.omnigroup.com gibt es jetzt
eine Beta-8b-Version sowie den zugehoerigen G2-Framework.
Dirk
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Maus loeten
Date: 5 Oct 1998 11:34:11 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6vaarj$s1e$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <1998Sep30.122520.20067@boba.rhein-main.de> <6v9tgg$krp$2@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) wrote:
>borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) wrote:
>>Hi!
>>
>>Seit gestern hat sich meine Maus teilverabschiedet - die linke
>>Maustaste hat keinerlei Wirkung mehr. Das ganze scheint mir nach einem
>>Kabelbruch auszusehen ...
...
>ich habe frueher mal eine anleitung (pinbelegung) gesehen (usenet?), wie man
>diverse non-serial maeuse (z.B. atari ST/ amiga, ps/2(?)) an non-adb systeme
>anschliessen kann. leider habe ich in dejanews nichts mehr gefunden.
Busmaus geht, aber *nicht* PS/2 oder seriell. Das Amigamaeuse gehen, weiss
ich nur vom Hoerensagen.
>weiss einer naeheres dazu?
wurde vor wenigen Tagen ausfuehrlichst hier besprochen. -> dejanews
Chris
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From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Gehaelter
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:00:29 +0200
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Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de> wrote:
> Schade, es gibt viele Firmen, die Leute suchen mit guter bis excellenter
> Erfahrung auf dem allgemeinen Gebiet Openstep (So nennen ich jetzt mal
> alles rund um Foundation,AppKit, EOF, WOF, OOP,...). Das Problem (eines
> unserer) ist, das wir nicht zu den groessten gehoeren (derzeit 13) und
> eigentlich för uns bezahlbare Leute suchen. So liegen die GehÙlter
> zwischen 48K und 60K im ersten Jahr, allerdings in Kassel, wo die Preise
> weitaus akzeptabler sind als in Frankfurt, Mönchen oder Stuttgart.
Ja, schade. Ich habe bis vor Kurzem als Anfaenger im OpenStep-Markt nach
einem Job gesucht, aber leider nicht den _genau_ passenden gefunden.
Haette ich fuer 60K irgendwo angefangen? Ja, wahrscheinlich, wenn alles
andere mit meinen Vorstellungen zusammengepasst haette. Aber das waere
ein Zugestaendnis aus Liebhaberei gewesen.
Wer nicht von solchen Liebhabereien getrieben ist, sollte meiner Meinung
nach nicht unter 70k anfangen. Und solche Leute werden es sich auch mehr
als zweimal ueberlegen, ob sie in eine Nische einsteigen wollen, die den
Mainstream von WinNT, VB, VC++, Cobol herzlich wenig interessiert.
> Diese Nachfrage, die noch weiter eskalieren wird ist natuerlich fuer ein
> Unternehmen wie das Unsrige nicht unbedingt superklasse, wobei natörlich
> die kapitalistischen Wurzeln in jedem einzelnen stecken und jeder
> versucht, das Beste för sich heraus zu schlagen.
In den kapitalistischen Wurzeln sitzen traditionell die Arbeitgeber. Da
koennen sie sich kaum beklagen, wenn nun auch mal die Arbeitnehmer ihre
Marktmacht nutzen. Kein Wunder, dass die Arbeitgeber sich daran erst
gewoehnen muessen.
Am meisten ueberrascht mich noch immer, das Missverhaeltnis zwischen der
Loyalitaet -- um nicht zu sagen Aufopferung -- die manche Arbeitgeber
von Mitarbeitern einfach erwarten und die sie selbst bereit sind zu
geben. Sehr krass gesagt: Weshalb sollte sich jemand besonders fair
einer Firma gegenueber verhalten, die durch Dauerstress seine Gesundheit
ruiniert und ihn fallen laesst, wenn er's nicht mehr bringt oder die
Auftragslage schlecht ist?
> Was ich mit dem Schreiben will weiss ich selber nicht genau, vielleicht
> nur unserem hÙnderigenden Suchen nach bezahlbaren Leuten Ausruck
> verleihen.
Vielleicht koennt Ihr den Leuten ja was bieten: technisch
herausfordernde Projekte, interessante Produkte, Gewinnbeteiligung oder
Firmenanteile, flexible (auch kurze!) Arbeitszeiten, Einfluss auf die
Ausrichtung des Unternehmens, breite Weiterbildung, Arbeitsplatz in
schoener Lage mit OePNV-Anbindung. (Nein, ich suche keine Stelle.)
Michael
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From: ahoesch@on-luebeck.de (Andreas Hoeschler)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Handbücher für Lighthouse-Applikationen
Date: 2 Oct 1998 10:17:21 GMT
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>Das ist eine Gute Idee (komprimierte PDFs zur verfügung stellen).
>Vielleicht solltest Du Dich mit Uli absprechen und dann die Handbücher auf
>dem N2Y ftp-Server zur Verfügung stellen.
Das waere toll. Es arbeiten doch oder gerade jetzt noch einige mit diesen
Applikationen.
>BTW, ich habe zwar auch die Lighthouse Edu CD, kann mich aber beim besten
>Willen nicht daran erinnern, daß dort Manuals für Quantrix oder OpenWrite
>dabei waren (?).
Ich habe die CD auch, aber außer 2 seitigen Prospekt ähnlichen SP-files habe
ich nichts gefunden. VOn Handbüchern keine Spur.
Andreas
From: ahoesch@on-luebeck.de (Andreas Hoeschler)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Handbücher für Lighthouse-Applikationen
Date: 5 Oct 1998 09:18:36 GMT
Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V.
Message-ID: <6va2tc$1c2@merkur.smartsoft.de>
References: <6uri4t$9p@merkur.smartsoft.de> <3611f76c.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <6ut15i$b8$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <36125903.47BFB7BD@lavielle.com> <6v31pb$f47$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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>Ich hab die Lighthouse CD mittlerweile hier im Buero, allerdings ist
>OpenWrite nicht auf der CD. Gibt es irgendwelche anderen Manuals darauf, die
>jemand als PDF haben moechte? Sonst nehm ich sie wieder mit heim.
Auf der CD befindet sich meines Wissens nur ein PS-Manual für Quantrix. Uli
Zappe war so freundlich, dieses als PDF zur Verfügung zu stellen. Wenn du
nicht die gleiche CD hast, wie ich, und da noch mehr Dokumentation drauf ist,
TaskMaster, WetPaint,... Ich wäre sehr dankbar.
Gruß Andreas
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Handbücher für Lighthouse-Applikationen
Date: 5 Oct 1998 16:56:22 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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ahoesch@on-luebeck.de (Andreas Hoeschler) wrote:
>>Ich hab die Lighthouse CD mittlerweile hier im Buero, allerdings ist
>>OpenWrite nicht auf der CD. Gibt es irgendwelche anderen Manuals darauf,
die
>>jemand als PDF haben moechte? Sonst nehm ich sie wieder mit heim.
>
>Auf der CD befindet sich meines Wissens nur ein PS-Manual für Quantrix. Uli
>Zappe war so freundlich, dieses als PDF zur Verfügung zu stellen. Wenn du
>nicht die gleiche CD hast, wie ich, und da noch mehr Dokumentation drauf
ist,
>TaskMaster, WetPaint,... Ich wäre sehr dankbar.
Yip - du hast recht. Da ist nichts weiter drauf. Ich erinnere mich
jetzt auch wieder, diese Sachen waren damals online auf dem Server
von Lighthouse zu finden. Vielleicht hat Timothy sie ja auf Peak
kopiert? Ich komm im Moment aber nicht drauf, hier an der Uni
ist alles zu..
Gruesse, Chris
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: Euro-Zeichen
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day_after <tomorrow@eunet.at> wrote:
: Ist ein Euro-Zeichen für NS3.3 erreichbar?
Es gibt einen Font "EuroLogo", der das Symbol in verschiedenen
Varianten enthaelt (und sonst keine Zeichen).
Ich weiss leider nicht mehr, wie die Firma hiess, die das - kostenlos!
- verteilt hat. Ich hatte wegen des Fonts fuer den Mac angefragt, und
die Firma sagte dann, dass sich bereits jemand die Muehe gemacht haette,
eine NEXTSTEP-/OPENSTEP-taugliche Variante davon zu generieren, und
mailte mir den Font zu.
Vielleicht finde ich die Mail ja noch... (oder ein Mitarbeiter dieser
Firma liest hier mit und gibt sich zu erkennen ;-).
Soviel fuer's erste,
Ingmar
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Alternativen zu Lighthouse bei Umstellung OS auf Mac OS X
Date: 2 Oct 1998 14:41:19 GMT
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F.Knobloch@inis.de (Frank Knobloch) wrote:
> unsere interne Umstellung von OS 4.x auf Mac-OS-X Server wird derzeit
> geplant.
> Die Frage hier ist die Suche nach Alternativen zu den Produkten
> TaskMaster und Diagram.
>
> Gibt es auf dem Bereich vielleicht irgendwelche YB Alternativen?
Für Diagram gibt es Glyphix, das dem Vernehmen nach ein recht perfekter Clone
sein soll.
Bezüglich TaskMaster hab' ich noch nix gehört.
Ich selbst wäre neben Diagram vor allem noch an einem Clone von Quantrix
interessiert; eine kleine OPENSTEP-Datenbank wäre auch nicht schlecht...
Tschau
Uli
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Alternativen zu Lighthouse bei Umstellung OS auf Mac OS X
Date: 2 Oct 1998 15:26:51 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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F.Knobloch@inis.de (Frank Knobloch) wrote:
>unsere interne Umstellung von OS 4.x auf Mac-OS-X Server wird derzeit
>geplant.
>Die Frage hier ist die Suche nach Alternativen zu den Produkten
>TaskMaster und Diagram.
Diagram kann man voll und ganz durch GlyphiX ersetzen, das liest
sogar Diagram files und Palletten ein. Fuer TaskMaster kenne ich
keinen Ersatz, aber das Programm macht an sich nicht so viel, als
dass man es nicht leicht klonen koennte. Ich werde das als eine
Anregung weitergeben :-)
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Gehaelter
Date: 2 Oct 1998 15:53:03 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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F.Knobloch@inis.de (Frank Knobloch) wrote:
>> entsprechenden Berufserfahrung und akademischem Grad liegt man
>> als Informatiker im Augenblick bei 120 kDM/y, aber die Zahl
>> ergibt sich aus Statistiken ueber den Informatikmarkt ganz
>es gibt viele Firmen, die Leute suchen mit guter bis excellenter
>Erfahrung auf dem allgemeinen Gebiet Openstep (So nennen
>ich jetzt mal alles rund um Foundation,AppKit, EOF, WOF, OOP,...).
>Das Problem (eines unserer) ist, das wir nicht zu den groessten gehoeren
>(derzeit 13) und eigentlich för uns bezahlbare Leute suchen. So liegen die
>Gehaelter zwischen 48K und 60K im ersten Jahr, allerdings in Kassel, wo
>die Preise weitaus akzeptabler sind als in Frankfurt, Muenchen oder
>Stuttgart.
Das kann ich bestaetigen, die Gehaelter orientieren sich sehr stark
daran, wo man wohnt bzw die Firma sitzt. Frankfurt und Muenchen
sind einfach extrem teuer, und das macht die hoeheren Gehaelter
durch die hoeheren Lebenshaltungskosten locker wett. Wenn man
dazu noch den Spass nimmt, den man durch taegliches Staustehen
am Frankfurter Kreuz hat, wird das tolle Gehalt in Frankfurt
doch ein wenig relativiert.
Nun, 60 TDM ist nicht grade prall, aber die 120 TDM beziehen sich
auch auf einen promovierten Informatiker mit ueber fuenf Jahren
Industrieerfahrung - ich nehme an, diese Einstiegsgehaelter
beziehen sich auf Berufsanfaenger?
>Wir haben hier einige Entwickler auf OS aufgebaut, was uns recht viel
>Geld gekostet hat, weil scheinbar keine qualifizierten Leute zu
>finden waren oder weil jeder glaubt, nur in Muenchen oder Redmond
>kann Geld verdient werden.
...
>Was ich mit dem Schreiben will weiss ich selber nicht genau, vielleicht
>nur unserem haenderigenden Suchen nach bezahlbaren Leuten Ausruck
>verleihen.
Volles Verstaendnis und grosse Sympathie. Ein Wort dazu von meiner
Warte aus: wie schon eingangs erwaehnt, muss man Loehne relativ zur
Lebenshaltung in der Umgebung sehen. Auch ist es bekannt, dass kleine
Laeden nicht so gut zahlen, wie Banken und grosse Firmen, aber man
muss das durchaus relativieren. Geld ist nicht alles. Eine gute
Atmosphaere im Unternehmen, faire und kompetente Vorgesetzte, und
ertraegliche Arbeitsbedingungen sind auch sehr wichtig. Ich verdiene
lieber 20 K weniger, wenn ich dafuer nicht im Grossraumbuero sitzen
muss, jeden Tag zwei Stunden Auto fahre, und mein Chef aus einem
Dilbert-Comic zu stammen scheint.
Gruesse, Chris
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From: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: PersonalInn Probleme
Date: 3 Oct 1998 11:34:33 GMT
Organization: Oldenburger Informations-Systeme, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6v5249$pcv@hazel.north.de>
Seit Jahren laeuft bei mir problemlos PersonalInn 1.0 (auf NS3.3):
Sep 28 16:34:12 hazel slurp[15282]: Connected to nntp server at
namib.north.de
Sep 28 16:34:24 hazel slurp[15282]: Processed 3 new, 1 duplicate, 0
missing articles
Sep 28 16:34:24 hazel slurp[15282]: Average transfer speed 1182 cps
Seit ein paar Tagen kommt aber bei jedem Verbindungsversuch folgendes:
Sep 29 08:37:32 hazel slurp[9889]: Connected to nntp server at
namib.north.de
Sep 29 08:37:34 hazel slurp[9889]: do_newnews: NNTP protocol error: got
'501 newsgroups yymmdd hhmmss ["GMT"] [<distributions>]'
Bei meinem Provider steht im Logfile:
Sep 29 08:41:54 namib nnrpd[3802]: primux01-28.north.de connect
Sep 29 08:41:55 namib nnrpd[3802]: primux01-28.north.de exit articles 0
groups 0
Sep 29 08:41:55 namib nnrpd[3802]: primux01-28.north.de times user 0.310
system 0
"Nix Error oder dergleichen..."
Ich habe nichts geaendert (zumindest wissentlich nicht) und mein Provider
auch nicht, er hat "lediglich vor ein paar Tagen einige Gruppen geloescht,
die nicht mehr existent sind... aber ob's daran liegt? kann ich mir
eigendlich nicht vorstellen...".
Was kann man da tun?
Gerriet.
P.S. Bitte schickt mir einen Brief, da ich News wegen des oben
beschriebenen Problems ja nicht lesen kann.
From: Richard Scholz <richard@REMOVETHISsubito.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Maus loeten
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 10:12:01 +0200
Organization: NEWS.IPF.NET - Your Gate to the World
Message-ID: <3619D0D1.2474@REMOVETHISsubito.de>
References: <1998Sep30.122520.20067@boba.rhein-main.de> <6v9tgg$krp$2@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <6vaarj$s1e$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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Christian Neuss wrote:
>
> Busmaus geht, aber *nicht* PS/2 oder seriell. Das Amigamaeuse gehen, weiss
> ich nur vom Hoerensagen.
Das Amigamäuse funktionieren kann ich bestätigen. Ich hatte mir mal eine
an meinen NeXT angeschlossen.
Die haben ausserdem den Charme, daß man für sie die Pinbelegung
unproblematisch bekommt.
Bei PC Busmäusen wäre ich mir bei der Pinbelegung nicht so sicher.
Und : Amigamäuse gab es auch in Schwarz ;-)
Allerdings, kriegt man Amigamäuse heutzutage überhaupt noch ?
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Euro-Zeichen
Date: 6 Oct 1998 09:24:42 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / CC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6vcnkq$2mr$1@newshost>
References: <1998Oct6.004708.16172@aurora.in-berlin.de>
In article <1998Oct6.004708.16172@aurora.in-berlin.de> Ingmar Camphausen
<ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de> writes:
> day_after <tomorrow@eunet.at> wrote:
> : Ist ein Euro-Zeichen f r NS3.3 erreichbar?
>
> Es gibt einen Font "EuroLogo", der das Symbol in verschiedenen
> Varianten enthaelt (und sonst keine Zeichen).
Solche Fonts gibt's z.B. auch von Adobe:
http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/10162.htm
verweist hierzu auf
http://www.adobe.com/type/eurofont.html
Da muss man sich registrieren, landet letztlich aber bei
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/type/win/all/eurofont.exe
(fuer die Windows Variante). Fuer den Rest gibt's Frank
Siegert's FontConvert (Danke, Frank !).
Es sind gleich mehrere Fonts enthalten (Euro Monospace,
Euro Sans, Euro Serif) jeweils in Regular, Bold, Italic
und BoldItalic.
Detlev
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From: "H. Hahn" <h.hahn@rendsburg.netsurf.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: Openstep 4.2 Intel (User)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 15:48:29 +0200
Organization: CLS Internet Services GmbH
Message-ID: <36162B2D.9D6F5D7E@rendsburg.netsurf.de>
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Hallo,
ich suche zum Update meines NS 3.3 ein Openstep 4.2 Intel. User wäre
ausreichend. Angebote bitte per Mail.
Gruß,
Heiko
From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Wie konvertiert man Mailboxes?
Date: 6 Oct 1998 09:29:06 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <6vcnt2$47v$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Hallo Leute,
wie kann ich die Mailboxes unter OpenStep derart
konvertieren, dass ich mit Netscape unter Windows
die Mails alle lesen kann (Mit Attachements)?
Gibt es da ein Programm?
Danke,
Ciao Martin
From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Euro-Zeichen
Date: 6 Oct 1998 10:36:01 GMT
Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany
Message-ID: <6vcrqh$198$1@nexus.oic.de>
References: <6v8m6m$kjv$1@fleetstreet.Austria.EU.net> <1998Oct6.004708.16172@aurora.in-berlin.de>
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In <1998Oct6.004708.16172@aurora.in-berlin.de> Ingmar Camphausen wrote:
> Es gibt einen Font "EuroLogo", der das Symbol in verschiedenen Varianten
> enthaelt (und sonst keine Zeichen).
>
> Ich weiss leider nicht mehr, wie die Firma hiess, die das - kostenlos!
Adobe.
> - verteilt hat. Ich hatte wegen des Fonts fuer den Mac angefragt, und die
> Firma sagte dann, dass sich bereits jemand die Muehe gemacht haette, eine
> NEXTSTEP-/OPENSTEP-taugliche Variante davon zu generieren, und mailte mir
> den Font zu.
Es ist sehr einfach aus dem Adobe-Font einen NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Font zu
generieren, es dauert vielleicht 2 Minuten (mit einloggen :-))... Diese
"Arbeit" dann vielleicht auch noch zu verkaufen, wuerde ich eher als
unverschaemt bezeichnen:-)...
Tschau...
Jürgen
PS.: Ich hatte dem Fragesteller bereits einen Euro-Font zugeschickt, hat sich
aber nicht mehr gemeldet... Vielleicht hatte es sich ja schon erledigt
gehabt.
From: Wolfgang Pusch <wolfgang.pusch@siemens.at>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Scanner und Scanner-Software
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 13:53:57 +0200
Organization: Siemens AG Austria
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Hallo,
welche guenstigen Scanner (bis 3000 ATS bzw. 500 DM) werden von NS3.x
unterstuetzt? Gibt es Public Domain Software, die diese Scanner
unterstuetzen?
Gruesse
Wolfgang Pusch
From: Jens Breitenborn <jensb@mevis.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Job:Radiologische Software auf YellowBox
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 13:08:25 +0200
Organization: Universitaet Bremen, Zentrum fuer Netze
Message-ID: <3619FA28.4BD372FE@mevis.de>
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Wir entwickeln Software fuer die Radiologie, die den Radiologen durch
neuartige Bildverarbeitungs- und Visualisierungs-Verfahren bei der
Diagnose und Befundung unterstuetzen soll.
In einem neuen Projekt, in dem es zunaechst um 4-dimensionale
MR-Aufnahmen der weiblichen Brust geht (6 Volumendatensaetze ueber
die Zeit / mit Kontrastmittel), wollen wir auf YellowBox aufsetzen.
Wir haben bereits entsprechende YellowBox-Kompetenz im Hause und
wollen diese nun durch zwei Informatiker mit YellowBox-
bzw. OpenStep-Kenntnissen erweitern.
Wer sich angesprochen fuehlt und darueberhinaus Interesse hat, in einem
stark wachsenden Forschungsinstitut (MeVis) bei der Entwicklung
neuartiger Software im Bereich der Radiologie auf Basis der
YellowBox mitzuwirken, der melde sich bitte direkt bei
Jens Breitenborn
mailto:jensb@mevis.de
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Euro-Zeichen
Date: 6 Oct 1998 11:52:14 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <6vd09e$ro$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <1998Oct6.004708.16172@aurora.in-berlin.de> <6vcnkq$2mr$1@newshost>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Oct 1998 11:52:14 GMT
droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) wrote:
> Solche Fonts gibt's z.B. auch von Adobe:
> http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/10162.htm
> verweist hierzu auf
> http://www.adobe.com/type/eurofont.html
>
> Da muss man sich registrieren, landet letztlich aber bei
> ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/type/win/all/eurofont.exe
> (fuer die Windows Variante). Fuer den Rest gibt's Frank
> Siegert's FontConvert (Danke, Frank !).
> Es sind gleich mehrere Fonts enthalten (Euro Monospace,
> Euro Sans, Euro Serif) jeweils in Regular, Bold, Italic
> und BoldItalic.
Eh das jetzt jeder von uns wieder neu macht - kannst Du das nicht auf die
einschlaegigen NEXTSTEP-Server tun?
Tschau
Uli
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From: Frank Wegmann <wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Wie konvertiert man Mailboxes?
Date: 06 Oct 1998 14:44:21 +0200
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <x7iuhx272y.fsf@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <6vcnt2$47v$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Oct 1998 12:44:32 GMT
martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle) writes:
> wie kann ich die Mailboxes unter OpenStep derart
> konvertieren, dass ich mit Netscape unter Windows
> die Mails alle lesen kann (Mit Attachements)?
> Gibt es da ein Programm?
Da die Attachments nicht mehr in der mbox-Datei liegen, sondern in
eigenen Verzeichnissen untergebracht sind (.attach/ bzw. .mimeattach),
duerfte das schwierig werden - ausser man kann den Zusammenhang mit
der (binaeren) toc-Datei klaeren.
Warum nimmst Du denn nicht den MailViewer von RDR2? Der funktioniert
unter der YB ganz vorzueglich (bessere MIME-Faehigkeiten als unter
OPENSTEP 4.2; nur noch nicht ganz die Geschwindigkeit).
Gruss,
Frank
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From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Euro-Zeichen
Date: 6 Oct 1998 14:37:50 GMT
Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany
Message-ID: <6vd9vu$4a0$1@nexus.oic.de>
References: <1998Oct6.004708.16172@aurora.in-berlin.de> <6vcnkq$2mr$1@newshost>
<6vd09e$ro$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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In <6vd09e$ro$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
> > Es sind gleich mehrere Fonts enthalten (Euro Monospace, Euro Sans, Euro
> > Serif) jeweils in Regular, Bold, Italic und BoldItalic.
>
> Eh das jetzt jeder von uns wieder neu macht - kannst Du das nicht auf die
> einschlaegigen NEXTSTEP-Server tun?
Schau mal unter
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/text/libs/fonts/EuroFont.tar.gz nach......
Tschau....
Jürgen
From: gtupar@objectzoo.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: JOB - EUROPE: OPENSTEP/MacOS X, WebObjects, and Java Software Engineers
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 21:01:32 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6ve0fc$qcu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
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From: "day_after" <tomorrow@eunet.at>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Euro-Zeichen
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:47:41 -0000
Organization: Customer of EUnet Austria
Message-ID: <6ve6q3$fc6$1@fleetstreet.Austria.EU.net>
References: <6v8m6m$kjv$1@fleetstreet.Austria.EU.net> <1998Oct6.004708.16172@aurora.in-berlin.de> <6vcrqh$198$1@nexus.oic.de>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Oct 1998 22:49:39 GMT
>
>PS.: Ich hatte dem Fragesteller bereits einen Euro-Font zugeschickt, hat
sich
>aber nicht mehr gemeldet... Vielleicht hatte es sich ja schon erledigt
>gehabt.
>
Zum PS: war durch einen Virus (nicht im System) leicht aus dem Plan - danke
für die super-Infos (die Reaktionen zeigen, dass das Datum 31.12.98 in
Europa doch ernst genommen wird...)
Danke
Ernst
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Euro-Zeichen
Date: 6 Oct 1998 22:10:15 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <6ve4g7$ro$2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <1998Oct6.004708.16172@aurora.in-berlin.de> <6vcnkq$2mr$1@newshost> <6vd09e$ro$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <6vd9vu$4a0$1@nexus.oic.de>
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jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) wrote:
>
> In <6vd09e$ro$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
>
> > > Es sind gleich mehrere Fonts enthalten (Euro Monospace, Euro Sans, Euro
> > > Serif) jeweils in Regular, Bold, Italic und BoldItalic.
> >
> > Eh das jetzt jeder von uns wieder neu macht - kannst Du das nicht auf die
> > einschlaegigen NEXTSTEP-Server tun?
>
> Schau mal unter
> ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/text/libs/fonts/EuroFont.tar.gz
> nach......
Falls das nicht jüngst upgedatet urde, ist da bislang aber nur *ein*
Schriftschnitt drin, IIRC.
Tschau
Uli
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From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Euro-Zeichen
Date: 7 Oct 1998 05:37:40 GMT
Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany
Message-ID: <6veun4$g1$1@nexus.oic.de>
References: <1998Oct6.004708.16172@aurora.in-berlin.de> <6vcnkq$2mr$1@newshost>
<6vd09e$ro$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <6vd9vu$4a0$1@nexus.oic.de>
<6ve4g7$ro$2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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In <6ve4g7$ro$2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
> Falls das nicht jüngst upgedatet urde, ist da bislang aber nur *ein*
> Schriftschnitt drin, IIRC.
Wieviele Euro-Zeichen gibt es??
Jürgen
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Euro-Zeichen
Date: 7 Oct 1998 09:54:04 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6vfdns$6rl$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <1998Oct6.004708.16172@aurora.in-berlin.de> <6vcnkq$2mr$1@newshost> <6vd09e$ro$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <6vd9vu$4a0$1@nexus.oic.de> <6ve4g7$ro$2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote:
Hi Uli :-)
>jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) wrote:
>> Schau mal unter
>> ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/text/libs/fonts/EuroFont.tar.gz
>> nach......
>
>Falls das nicht jüngst upgedatet urde, ist da bislang aber nur *ein*
>Schriftschnitt drin, IIRC.
Habs gestern installiert, sind alle Schnitte drin. Ugrade lohnt.
Chris
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Euro-Zeichen
Date: 7 Oct 1998 10:12:15 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / CC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6vfepv$h38$1@newshost>
References: <6vd09e$ro$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
In article <6vd09e$ro$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) writes:
> droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) wrote:
> > Solche Fonts gibt's z.B. auch von Adobe:
> > Da muss man sich registrieren, landet letztlich aber bei
> > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/type/win/all/eurofont.exe
[ ... ]
> Eh das jetzt jeder von uns wieder neu macht - kannst Du das nicht auf die
> einschlaegigen NEXTSTEP-Server tun?
Habe mir die License durchgelesen, ist nicht zulaessig.
"You may not copy or distribute this Software."
Sorry :-)
Detlev
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From: marsu@cs.tu-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann)
Newsgroups: bln.archiv,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Neu auf dem Berliner NeXT-Archiv (07-Oct-98)
Date: 7 Oct 1998 10:15:46 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6vff0i$8f$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
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To: beng@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de
Neu auf dem NeXT-FTP-Archiv der BeNG (ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT):
90535 Oct 3 05:06 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/apps/OmniCDApp-2.0b3b-RDR2-IP.pkg.tar.gz
11904 Oct 3 05:06 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/apps/OmniCDAudio-2.0b3b-RDR2-IP.pkg.tar.gz
87438 Sep 14 08:18 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/documents/misc/unix_security_checklist.txt
290911 Oct 2 08:48 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/OmniImage-4.0b3-OSM-NIS.pkg.tar.gz
196972 Oct 2 08:31 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/OmniImage-4.0b3-RDR2-IP.pkg.tar.gz
746166 Oct 3 05:09 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/commercial/OmniPDF-3.0b4b-OSM-NIS.pkg.tar.gz
421409 Oct 3 04:46 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/commercial/OmniPDF-3.0b4b-RDR2-IP.pkg.tar.gz
1031 Aug 31 10:10 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/images/icons/ppai_Icon_25.README
234287 Aug 29 12:19 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/images/icons/ppai_Icon_25.tar.gz
62212 Oct 5 22:04 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/misc/TEUMAX.1.6.4.NIHS.sda.tar.gz
10535 Oct 5 22:04 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/misc/TEUMAX.1.6.4.README
77233 Oct 2 14:31 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/libs/Cryptor.2.4b.bundle.NI.bs.tar.gz
1376 Oct 2 14:35 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/mail/libs/Cryptor.2.4b.bundle.README
1690005 Oct 5 08:16 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/samba-1.9.18p10.1-PI.b.tar.gz
1423704 Oct 5 08:16 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/samba-1.9.18p10.1-s.tar.gz
1412 Oct 5 08:17 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/samba-1.9.18p10.1.README
3674762 Oct 1 09:00 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniFrameworks-1998G2-OSM-NIS.pkg.tar.gz
1850493 Oct 1 09:10 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniFrameworks-1998G2-RDR2-IP.pkg.tar.gz
1824807 Oct 1 08:58 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniWeb-3.0b8b-OSM-NIS.pkg.tar.gz
1112361 Oct 1 09:18 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniWeb-3.0b8b-RDR2-IP.pkg.tar.gz
116325 Oct 5 10:42 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPS.1.04a.m.NIS.bs.tar.gz
286 Oct 5 10:42 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPS.1.04a.m.NIS.bs.tar.gz.asc
7242 Oct 5 10:42 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPS.1.04a.m.README
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <361b416e.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 7 Oct 98 10:24:46 GMT
droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) wrote:
>In article <6vd09e$ro$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
>uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) writes:
>> Eh das jetzt jeder von uns wieder neu macht - kannst Du das nicht auf die
>> einschlaegigen NEXTSTEP-Server tun?
>
>Habe mir die License durchgelesen, ist nicht zulaessig.
> "You may not copy or distribute this Software."
>
> Sorry :-)
> Detlev
Ein Glueck, dass nur die konvertierten Fonts (und nicht "this Software") auf
die Server kommen :-).
Sven
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Subject: Re: Handbücher für Lighthouse-Applikationen
References: <6uri4t$9p@merkur.smartsoft.de> <3611f76c.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <6ut15i$b8$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <36125903.47BFB7BD@lavielle.com> <6v31pb$f47$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <6va2tc$1c2@merkur.smartsoft.de> <6vatnm$pio$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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Date: 7 Oct 98 12:27:51 GMT
Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>ahoesch@on-luebeck.de (Andreas Hoeschler) wrote:
>>>Ich hab die Lighthouse CD mittlerweile hier im Buero, allerdings ist
>>>OpenWrite nicht auf der CD. Gibt es irgendwelche anderen Manuals darauf,
>die
>>>jemand als PDF haben moechte? Sonst nehm ich sie wieder mit heim.
>>
>>Auf der CD befindet sich meines Wissens nur ein PS-Manual für Quantrix. Uli
>>Zappe war so freundlich, dieses als PDF zur Verfügung zu stellen. Wenn du
>>nicht die gleiche CD hast, wie ich, und da noch mehr Dokumentation drauf
>ist,
>>TaskMaster, WetPaint,... Ich wäre sehr dankbar.
>
>Yip - du hast recht. Da ist nichts weiter drauf. Ich erinnere mich
>jetzt auch wieder, diese Sachen waren damals online auf dem Server
>von Lighthouse zu finden. Vielleicht hat Timothy sie ja auf Peak
>kopiert? Ich komm im Moment aber nicht drauf, hier an der Uni
>ist alles zu..
Also auf meiner CD sind Anleitungen zu Concurrence, den FoundationClasses und
Parasheet drauf ... (keine Quandrix)
Still searching
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From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
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Subject: JAZ 2 GB
Date: 7 Oct 1998 12:44:45 GMT
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Gibt es Schwierigkeiten mit dem 2GB Jaz-Laufwerk?
Mein INtel Openstep 4.2 stuerzt mit System Panic ab, wenn ich das Teil
anschließe.
Alex
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
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Date: 7 Oct 1998 14:17:12 GMT
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Richard Scholz <richard@REMOVETHISsubito.de> wrote:
>Christian Neuss wrote:
>>
>> Busmaus geht, aber *nicht* PS/2 oder seriell. Das Amigamaeuse gehen, weiss
>> ich nur vom Hoerensagen.
>
>Das Amigamäuse funktionieren kann ich bestätigen. Ich hatte mir mal eine
>an meinen NeXT angeschlossen.
>Die haben ausserdem den Charme, daß man für sie die Pinbelegung
>unproblematisch bekommt.
ich bin sehr an einer anleitung (pinbelegungsmapping nach NeXT) interessiert.
wenn du die posten koenntes :-).
>Bei PC Busmäusen wäre ich mir bei der Pinbelegung nicht so sicher.
>
>Und : Amigamäuse gab es auch in Schwarz ;-)
>
>Allerdings, kriegt man Amigamäuse heutzutage überhaupt noch ?
wenn man erst mal die pinbelegung hat, kann man auch atari st maeuse nehmen
(per analogieschluss), davon habe ich zumindest mehr als genug.
gruss, daniel
From: Richard Scholz <richard@REMOVETHISsubito.de>
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Daniel Boehringer wrote:
>
> ich bin sehr an einer anleitung (pinbelegungsmapping nach NeXT) interessiert.
> wenn du die posten koenntes :-).
>
Hier findest Du die notwendigen Informationen:
Amigamausbelegung:
http://www.sonic.net/~alanwall/hwb/co_AmigaMouseJoy.html
Nextmausbelegung (NON ADB) : http://www.peanuts.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.108.html
Das Mapping überlasse ich Dir selbst :-) Ich habe das ganze damals ad
hoc gelötet,
darum habe ich auch keine Unterlagen, die ich posten könnte.
Alles ohne Gewähr.
Wenn dich der Lötkolben beisst, oder dein NeXT dabei kaputt geht, ist es
deine eigene Schuld.
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From: "Dinu C. Gherman" <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de>
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Subject: Re: WebObjects-Gehaelter
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 21:59:30 +0200
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Christian Neuss wrote:
> =
> Nachdem ich mich in der naechsten Zeit veraendern will, wollte
> ich mal fragen, was ein WO Entwickler so verdient. Mit der
> entsprechenden Berufserfahrung und akademischem Grad liegt man
> als Informatiker im Augenblick bei 120 kDM/y, aber die Zahl
> ergibt sich aus Statistiken ueber den Informatikmarkt ganz
> allgemein, ich koennte mir vorstellen, dass Spezialisten wie
> etwa WO-Entwickler durchaus besser verdienen. Was ist eure
> Erfahrung?
Hohe Geh=E4lter relativieren sich aus einem anderen, bisher nicht
genannten Aspekt, der aber besonders f=FCr Berufsanf=E4nger wichtig
sein d=FCrfte. Was n=FCtzen einem 120 kDM, wom=F6glich mit toller Ar-
beitsatmosph=E4re, wenn Vater Staat einem tief in die Brieftasche
greift, und am Ende gerade mal 1 kDM =FCbrigt bleibt, nachdem die
Miete und das Auto bezahlt ist? Unverheiratete zahlen, wenn ich
recht informiert bin, bei diesen Zahlen um die 45-55 % Steuern,
jedenfalls in Deutschland. Nicht gerade sehr ermutigend, oder?
Freilich, ich habe gut Reden...
Dem Doktortitel stehe ich eher skeptisch gegen=FCber, jedenfalls
was den Info-Doc angeht. In Karlsruhe gibt's den nach etwa vier
Jahren Zwangsarbeit. In der Industrie verdient man in der Zeit
vermutlich zwischen 400 und 1000 kDM wenn man Gl=FCck hat, sagen =
wir mal 700 kDM im Mittel. Das holt man mit dem Info-Doc Bonus =
von 20 kDM erst circa in drei weiteren Jahren erst rein. Nichts =
gegen Info-Docs und deren spezialisierte Erfahrung auf einem =
besonderen Gebiet, aber die haben Gl=FCck, wenn sie diese auch =
gezielt einsetzen k=F6nnen nach der Uni. Ich habe einige (auch =
nicht-Info) gesehen, und es schien mir kein offensichtlicher =
Vorteil zu sein, wenn man mit ganz speziellen Produkten arbei-
ten muss oder allgemeiner Sachverstand gefragt ist. =
Sorry f=FCr diese etwas n=FCchterne Betrachtung! Nat=FCrlich ist Geld
nicht alles, insbesondere scheint es aber in einem umgekehrt
proportionalen Verh=E4ltnis zu der einem verbleibenden Zeit zu =
stehen, die man f=FCr andere Dinge verwenden kann, leider.
Naja, jedenfalls viel Spass bei der Ver=E4nderung, ;-)
Dinu =
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Subject: Re: WebObjects-Gehaelter
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 22:37:30 GMT
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Well, although Dinu is kind of right (we are coming from the same NeXT
"Stammtisch" ;-) ... so I'm not allowed to say something wrong, I would like
to make some "correctional" remarks:
1. The OpenStep/WOF employment market has its own laws. Money is important,
but what most of the people like is to maximize their life-standard.
Different people have different opinions about life standard: some would like
to drive Z3, others to spend 1/2 year in snow-boarding and surfing (hello
Tomi! Are you back from greece ;-). Yet others prefer to work at home, or
during the night (me including). When we ware starting the ObjectZoo, we had
this in mind, and we are putting a lot of efforts to create a real virtual
environment where everyone can identify his/her own personality. Luckily this
was a right way to go, and we can now (4 month after we open the doors)
proudly say, that together with Mondia (alias ObjectFactory) we are one of
the very few OS/WOF company that is not afraid of any large project in the
consultancy business.
2. As a bulgarian citizen, who "drunk" significant part of his studies in
germany and now is spending his weekends in Amsterdam, I've learned that the
tax issue is not very serious one. A good employer is obliged to cope with
this issue in a professional (and legally correct) way. With other words, not
all these 120kDM are taxable.
3. I will strongly support Dinu's comment about the PhD's ... although not
because of financial, but because of quality concerns.
4. Although the WOF is not the The market where one will make most money, it
is one of the friendliest markets. There is work for everyone, and there is a
lot of fun. And compared to the M$ mediocrity swamp, it is a very rearwarding
market. Unfortunately we have here also some black sheep (I mean companies)
trying to spoil the otherwise friendly and collaborative object family.
Best regards
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Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > Nachdem ich mich in der naechsten Zeit veraendern will, wollte
> > ich mal fragen, was ein WO Entwickler so verdient. Mit der
> > entsprechenden Berufserfahrung und akademischem Grad liegt man
> > als Informatiker im Augenblick bei 120 kDM/y, aber die Zahl
> > ergibt sich aus Statistiken ueber den Informatikmarkt ganz
> > allgemein, ich koennte mir vorstellen, dass Spezialisten wie
> > etwa WO-Entwickler durchaus besser verdienen. Was ist eure
> > Erfahrung?
>
> Hohe Geh=E4lter relativieren sich aus einem anderen, bisher nicht
> genannten Aspekt, der aber besonders f=FCr Berufsanf=E4nger wichtig
> sein d=FCrfte. Was n=FCtzen einem 120 kDM, wom=F6glich mit toller Ar-
> beitsatmosph=E4re, wenn Vater Staat einem tief in die Brieftasche
> greift, und am Ende gerade mal 1 kDM =FCbrigt bleibt, nachdem die
> Miete und das Auto bezahlt ist? Unverheiratete zahlen, wenn ich
> recht informiert bin, bei diesen Zahlen um die 45-55 % Steuern,
> jedenfalls in Deutschland. Nicht gerade sehr ermutigend, oder?
> Freilich, ich habe gut Reden...
>
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From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Subject: Re: Euro-Zeichen
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:46:06 GMT
In article <6veun4$g1$1@nexus.oic.de> jurgen@oic.de (Juergen
Moellenhoff) writes:
> In <6ve4g7$ro$2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
>
> > Falls das nicht j ngst upgedatet urde, ist da bislang aber nur
> > *ein* Schriftschnitt drin, IIRC.
>
> Wieviele Euro-Zeichen gibt es??
Im Zweifel sollte es so viele geben, wie es Schriften gibt. Das Dollar-
und das Pfund-Zeichen sind ja schliesslich auch in jedem PostScript-
Font enthalten ...
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From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
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Subject: Re: Alternativen zu Lighthouse bei Umstellung OS auf Mac OS X
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:55:37 +0200
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Uli Zappe <uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote:
> eine kleine OPENSTEP-Datenbank wäre auch nicht schlecht...
Man munkelt, daß eine Single-User (und nicht client-server) Version von
OpenBase mit Mac OS X (und WO4) kommt:
OpenBase Lite.
Gruß
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From: Bernhard Mayr <bernhard.mayr@tkc.at>
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Subject: Installation NS 3.3
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 08:59:03 +0200
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Ueber mein intel-os 4.1 System wollte ich zuletzt die (mir angenehmere)
Version NS 3.3
installieren. Der boot-Vorgang von Diskette beginnt normal. Nach dem
Laden der Treiber, unmittelbar nach der Meldung "starte NextStep" wird
der Bildschirm schwarz und die Tastatur steht (Strg-Alt-Entf nuetzt
nichts). Auch das Laden zusaetzlicher Treiber bringt nichts (PCIBus, S3,
Diamond, VGA).
Dazu noch folgende Anmerkungen:
*OS-Platte hat SCSI-ID 1 (macht mit OS 4.1 und lilo kein Problem;
Eintrag rootdev=sd1a)
*Der Start mit "default-Werten" (VGA?) ergibt auch unter OS 4.1 beim
booten nach dem Laden der Treiber einen schwarzen Schirm. (Schirm
kaputt??)
*Konfiguration: Adaptec 2940 PCI
*DiamondStealth64PCI 2MB VRAM
Wer weiss Rat?
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From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz)
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Subject: I586 auf Pentium-II = wrong architecture??? Hae?
Date: 9 Oct 1998 07:53:38 GMT
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Hallo zusammen,
Ich habe hier folgende Systeme: einen
AMDK6/300 (I586) und eine PII-333 (I486). Das dumme ist,
das OpenStep das PII System als 486er Architektur identifiziert
und so Programme wie bspw. der neue RC5DES, welcher fuer
I586 compiliert wurden als "wrong architecture" Typ abweist.
Das ist doch irre! Ein Echter PII wird nicht erkannt, aber
ein AMD Clone!
Was tun? Kann man die Architektur im nachinein patchen? Wenn ja, wie?
Viele Gruesse,
Bernhard.
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
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Subject: Nochmal Fonts
Date: 9 Oct 1998 06:58:18 GMT
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Hallo,
da ich noch nie neu Fonts installiert habe, stehe ich etwas ratlos da.
Ich habe mir EuroFont.tar.gz besorgt und die Fonts nach
nts kopiert.
Leider kann ich die neuen Fonts nun in keinem Fontselector finden. Müssen
n die noch irgendwie "aktiviert" werden?
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
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Subject: Faxen
Date: 9 Oct 1998 07:02:04 GMT
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Hallo,
da mein Linux-Router sowieso die ganze Zeit läuft, würde ich gerne meine
Faxerei über diesen abwickeln.
Nun, wie muss ich meinen OS-Rechner konfigurieren, dass ich möglichst
mfortabel über den Linux-Rechner faxen kann? Geht das womöglich über das
Drucken-Faxen Panel?
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Installation NS 3.3
Date: 9 Oct 1998 08:45:43 GMT
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Bernhard Mayr <bernhard.mayr@tkc.at> wrote:
>Ueber mein intel-os 4.1 System wollte ich zuletzt die (mir angenehmere)
>Version NS 3.3
>installieren. Der boot-Vorgang von Diskette beginnt normal. Nach dem
>Laden der Treiber, unmittelbar nach der Meldung "starte NextStep" wird
>der Bildschirm schwarz und die Tastatur steht (Strg-Alt-Entf nuetzt
>nichts). Auch das Laden zusaetzlicher Treiber bringt nichts (PCIBus, S3,
>Diamond, VGA).
versuche es mehrmals! 3.3 hat im gegensatz zu 4.x probleme, mit s3 karten in
den boot- vga modus zu wechseln (klappt statistisch gesehen ca. jedes vierte
mal). wenn du erst mal drin bist, lauft es wie geschmiert (dann besser nie
mehr rebooten).
daniel
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: I586 auf Pentium-II = wrong architecture??? Hae?
Date: 9 Oct 1998 11:28:17 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
Distribution: world
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Bernhard Scholz (scholz@leo.org) wrote:
: Hallo zusammen,
Hallo!
:
: Ich habe hier folgende Systeme: einen
: AMDK6/300 (I586) und eine PII-333 (I486). Das dumme ist,
: das OpenStep das PII System als 486er Architektur identifiziert
: und so Programme wie bspw. der neue RC5DES, welcher fuer
: I586 compiliert wurden als "wrong architecture" Typ abweist.
Wurde wohl unter 'Rhapsody' oder so kompiliert, denn OS 4.x kennt
den i586-Typ noch nicht!
Bzgl. rc5des gibt es ein Posting in einer folgender Newsgroups:
(dieser) de.comp.sys.next
oder
comp.soft-sys.nextstep
comp.sys.next.software
comp.sys.next.programmer
(unwahrscheinlich!) comp.sys.next.announce
(unwahrscheinlich!) comp.sys.next.bugs
von vor nicht allzu langer Zeit (ein bis zwei Monate?), das das
Problem behandelt hat und wo das Byte angegeben wurde, das man aendern
muss um eine lauffaehige Version zu erhalten.
Sorry, dass ich nicht spezifischer sein kann, aber ich hab's mir
nicht aufgehoben, da ich mit meinem (nur) Pentium das Problem (noch)
nicht habe. DejaNews sollte aber helfen.
:
: Das ist doch irre! Ein Echter PII wird nicht erkannt, aber
: ein AMD Clone!
Na ja, i686 (oder i786 und i686 fuer PPro?) ist halt (noch) nicht
eingebaut :-). Darum ist's ja auch ein 486er (fuer OS) :-).
:
: Was tun? Kann man die Architektur im nachinein patchen? Wenn ja, wie?
Ja, s.o. Ein 'fileheader' Patch.
Ich dachte er 'laege' auch auf dem Berliner Server, aber offensichtlich
wohl doch nicht :-), oder? Vielleicht war's auch peak oder peanuts.
Die Aussage findet sich auch im angegebenen Posting.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Installation NS 3.3
Date: 9 Oct 1998 17:10:22 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6vlg1u$12i$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) wrote:
>Bernhard Mayr <bernhard.mayr@tkc.at> wrote:
>>Ueber mein intel-os 4.1 System wollte ich zuletzt die (mir angenehmere)
>>Version NS 3.3
>>installieren. Der boot-Vorgang von Diskette beginnt normal. Nach dem
>>Laden der Treiber, unmittelbar nach der Meldung "starte NextStep" wird
>>der Bildschirm schwarz und die Tastatur steht (Strg-Alt-Entf nuetzt
>>nichts). Auch das Laden zusaetzlicher Treiber bringt nichts (PCIBus, S3,
>>Diamond, VGA).
>
>versuche es mehrmals! 3.3 hat im gegensatz zu 4.x probleme, mit s3 karten in
>den boot- vga modus zu wechseln (klappt statistisch gesehen ca. jedes vierte
>mal). wenn du erst mal drin bist, lauft es wie geschmiert (dann besser nie
>mehr rebooten).
wenn ich mich recht entsinne ist verbose boot der workaround hierzu.
Gruesse, Chris
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Nochmal Fonts
Date: 9 Oct 1998 17:27:33 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
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juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) wrote:
> da ich noch nie neu Fonts installiert habe
Huch!
> Ich habe mir EuroFont.tar.gz besorgt und die Fonts nach
> nts kopiert.
>
> Leider kann ich die neuen Fonts nun in keinem Fontselector finden. Müssen
> n die noch irgendwie "aktiviert" werden?
Yep:
buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts
(oder wo immer sie stecken)
Tschau
Uli
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From: olaf@orest.escape.de
Subject: PersonalInn Probleme
Message-ID: <F0KLAs.9rH@orest.escape.de>
Sender: olaf@orest.escape.de (Olaf Mueller)
Organization: Objective Methods, Inc.
References: <6vkc6a$av@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:16:04 GMT
Dieses poste ich fuer <gmd@hazel.north.de>:
Seit Jahren laeuft bei mir problemlos PersonalInn 1.0 (auf NS3.3):
Sep 28 16:34:12 hazel slurp[15282]: Connected to nntp server at
namib.north.de
Sep 28 16:34:24 hazel slurp[15282]: Processed 3 new, 1 duplicate, 0
missing articles
Sep 28 16:34:24 hazel slurp[15282]: Average transfer speed 1182 cps
Seit ein paar Tagen kommt aber bei jedem Verbindungsversuch folgendes:
Sep 29 08:37:32 hazel slurp[9889]: Connected to nntp server at
namib.north.de
Sep 29 08:37:34 hazel slurp[9889]: do_newnews: NNTP protocol error: got
'501 newsgroups yymmdd hhmmss ["GMT"] [<distributions>]'
Bei meinem Provider steht im Logfile:
Sep 29 08:41:54 namib nnrpd[3802]: primux01-28.north.de connect
Sep 29 08:41:55 namib nnrpd[3802]: primux01-28.north.de exit articles 0
groups 0
Sep 29 08:41:55 namib nnrpd[3802]: primux01-28.north.de times user 0.310
system 0
"Nix Error oder dergleichen..."
Ich habe nichts geaendert (zumindest wissentlich nicht) und mein Provider
auch nicht, er hat "lediglich vor ein paar Tagen einige Gruppen geloescht,
die nicht mehr existent sind... aber ob's daran liegt? kann ich mir
eigendlich nicht vorstellen...".
Was kann man da tun?
Gerriet.
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
From: olaf@orest.escape.de
Subject: Re: Nochmal Fonts
Message-ID: <F0KLAy.9s8@orest.escape.de>
Sender: olaf@orest.escape.de (Olaf Mueller)
Organization: Objective Methods, Inc.
References: <6vkc6a$av@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:16:10 GMT
In article <6vkc6a$av@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen
Grieb) writes:
> Hallo,
>
> da ich noch nie neu Fonts installiert habe, stehe ich etwas ratlos da.
>
> Ich habe mir EuroFont.tar.gz besorgt und die Fonts nach
> nts kopiert.
>
> Leider kann ich die neuen Fonts nun in keinem Fontselector finden. M ssen
> n die noch irgendwie "aktiviert" werden?
>
>
> --
> Juergen
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome
>
>
Gesetzt den Fall, dass die Fonts in den Ordner /LocalLibrary/Fonts kopiert
wurden, kann man im Terminal tippen:
buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts
Olaf
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Installation NS 3.3
Date: 10 Oct 1998 06:23:23 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6vmugr$eb2$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) wrote:
>>Bernhard Mayr <bernhard.mayr@tkc.at> wrote:
>>>[...]
>>
>>versuche es mehrmals! 3.3 hat im gegensatz zu 4.x probleme, mit s3 karten
in
>>den boot- vga modus zu wechseln (klappt statistisch gesehen ca. jedes
vierte
>>mal). wenn du erst mal drin bist, lauft es wie geschmiert (dann besser nie
>>mehr rebooten).
>
>wenn ich mich recht entsinne ist verbose boot der workaround hierzu.
das ist eine fehlinformation, die frueher mal kursierte, kann aber nicht
funktionieren, da auch der verbose boot im vga modus ablaeuft.
daniel
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Alternativen zu Lighthouse bei Umstellung OS auf Mac OS X
Date: 10 Oct 1998 18:23:21 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <6vo8mp$ib$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <3613c27c.0@m3-hh-alpha.03.net> <6v2omf$q2$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <1dgg3qu.zrnnkd1rae1zzN@ascend-tk-p109.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
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theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) wrote:
> Uli Zappe <uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote:
> > eine kleine OPENSTEP-Datenbank wäre auch nicht schlecht...
>
> Man munkelt, daß eine Single-User (und nicht client-server) Version von
> OpenBase mit Mac OS X (und WO4) kommt:
>
> OpenBase Lite.
Ah, klingt gut! :-)
Tschau
Uli
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From: F.Knobloch@inis.de (Frank Knobloch)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: boot-switch
Date: 10 Oct 98 14:14:21 GMT
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Es gab/gibt ein Programm namens boot-switch, welches eine OS-Parition
versteckt, so
dass Rhapsody und OS auf einer Platte installiert werden koennen.
Leider haben wir hier nur die OS Version.
Wo kann man das kriegen?
Frank Knobloch
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: boot-switch
Date: 11 Oct 1998 09:56:06 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de> wrote:
: Es gab/gibt ein Programm namens boot-switch, welches eine OS-Parition
: versteckt, so
: dass Rhapsody und OS auf einer Platte installiert werden koennen.
: Leider haben wir hier nur die OS Version.
: Wo kann man das kriegen?
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/97.4-Winter/boot-switch.c.gz
Axel
P.S.:
Es gibt auch die Moeglichkeit, den Partitionstyp im Kernel und
den Boot-Loadern so zu patchen, dass OPENSTEP oder Rhapsody
einen anderen Partitionstyp benutzt. Das ist aber nur was fuer
hartgesottene :-)
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Installation NS 3.3
Date: 11 Oct 1998 13:27:50 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6vqbom$fk6$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) wrote:
>>wenn ich mich recht entsinne ist verbose boot der workaround hierzu.
>
>das ist eine fehlinformation, die frueher mal kursierte, kann aber nicht
>funktionieren, da auch der verbose boot im vga modus ablaeuft.
<shrug>
nun, bei mir hatte es funktioniert.. Mein Problem war allerdings
subtil anders, mein Bildschirm wurde bei *Ausschalten* komplett
schwarz, so dass ich nur raten konnte, wann 'it is safe..' war.
"BootGraphics" auf "No", Problem geloest, YMMV und so.
BCNGU, C
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Installation NS 3.3
Date: 12 Oct 1998 09:05:23 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) wrote:
>>>wenn ich mich recht entsinne ist verbose boot der workaround hierzu.
>>
>>das ist eine fehlinformation, die frueher mal kursierte, kann aber nicht
>>funktionieren, da auch der verbose boot im vga modus ablaeuft.
>
><shrug>
>nun, bei mir hatte es funktioniert.. Mein Problem war allerdings
>subtil anders, mein Bildschirm wurde bei *Ausschalten* komplett
>schwarz, so dass ich nur raten konnte, wann 'it is safe..' war.
>"BootGraphics" auf "No", Problem geloest, YMMV und so.
>
das der "workaround" bei shutdown-problemen funktioniert, kann ich mir
vorstellen, da hier nur im nicht-verbose (ShutdownGraphics=YES) mode wieder
zurueck in den vga-modus gewechselt wird. keine ahnung allerdings, warum du
dann keine probleme beim booten hattest.
daniel
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Installation NS 3.3
Date: 12 Oct 1998 09:54:49 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de/
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>nun, bei mir hatte es funktioniert.. Mein Problem war allerdings
>subtil anders, mein Bildschirm wurde bei *Ausschalten* komplett
>schwarz, so dass ich nur raten konnte, wann 'it is safe..' war.
>"BootGraphics" auf "No", Problem geloest, YMMV und so.
Sicher?
dave@cat>grep -i down /private/Drivers/i386/System.config/*
/private/Drivers/i386/System.config/Instance0.table:"Shutdown Graphics" =
"No";
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Installation NS 3.3
Date: 12 Oct 1998 10:57:50 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6vsnbe$lca$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) wrote:
>Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>
>>nun, bei mir hatte es funktioniert.. Mein Problem war allerdings
>>subtil anders, mein Bildschirm wurde bei *Ausschalten* komplett
>>schwarz, so dass ich nur raten konnte, wann 'it is safe..' war.
>>"BootGraphics" auf "No", Problem geloest, YMMV und so.
>
>Sicher?
>
>dave@cat>grep -i down /private/Drivers/i386/System.config/*
>/private/Drivers/i386/System.config/Instance0.table:"Shutdown Graphics" =
>"No";
David,
danke fuer die Korrektur, natuerlich waren es die Shutdown Graphics.
Warum ich beim Booten uebrigens keine Probleme hatte, weiss ich
nicht - vielleicht ein Timing-problem das nur manchmal auftritt.
Chris
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: Openstep 4.2 Intel (F&L)
Date: 5 Oct 1998 07:54:23 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6v9tvf$krp$3@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
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hallo,
suche Openstep 4.2 Intel (F&L) Lizenz fuer ca. 300,- DM.
daniel
From: John Smith <jsmth@company.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Hilfe:Nach dem Benutzen von SNS startet OS4.2 nicht mehr
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:23:19 +0200
Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin
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Hallo,
ich habe ein Problem mit OS4.2/Intel. Nachdem ich versucht habe
mit SimpleNetworkStarter einige daten meiner NeXTstation zugänglich
zu machen (was fehl schlug), startet das system vom Login Fenster
nicht mehr. Nachdem ich den Benutzernamen eingegeben und bestätigt
habe (wenn ich mich beeile, kann ich auch noch den Anfang des
Passworts eingeben) erscheint kurz darauf nur noch der bunte
Wartekreisel und es passiert gar nichts mehr. Zuerst dachte ich,
daß der Kreisel nach dem Bestätigen des Passworts erscheint, aber
dem ist nicht so. Ich kann auch nicht mehr mit config=default starten:
er kann default.table nicht finden (oder so).
Also, ich würde ich gerne wissen wie man die Einstellungen die SNS
durchge
führt hat wieder rüchgängig macht (Von der console oder im single user
modus!?!) Ich habe leider auch kein emacs installiert, ist das
gravierend?
Vielen Dank im voraus für jegliche Hilfe
-Max
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Hilfe:Nach dem Benutzen von SNS startet OS4.2 nicht mehr
Date: 12 Oct 1998 14:00:14 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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John Smith <jsmth@company.com> wrote:
: Hallo,
: ich habe ein Problem mit OS4.2/Intel. Nachdem ich versucht habe
: mit SimpleNetworkStarter einige daten meiner NeXTstation zugänglich
: zu machen (was fehl schlug), startet das system vom Login Fenster
: nicht mehr. Nachdem ich den Benutzernamen eingegeben und bestätigt
: habe (wenn ich mich beeile, kann ich auch noch den Anfang des
: Passworts eingeben) erscheint kurz darauf nur noch der bunte
: Wartekreisel und es passiert gar nichts mehr. Zuerst dachte ich,
: daß der Kreisel nach dem Bestätigen des Passworts erscheint, aber
: dem ist nicht so. Ich kann auch nicht mehr mit config=default starten:
: er kann default.table nicht finden (oder so).
Es heisst config=Default (das grosse D beachten)
: Also, ich würde ich gerne wissen wie man die Einstellungen die SNS
: durchge
: führt hat wieder rüchgängig macht (Von der console oder im single user
: modus!?!) Ich habe leider auch kein emacs installiert, ist das
: gravierend?
Singleuser booten. /etc/netinfo von /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo
kopieren. Dabei gehen allerdings alle User-Einstellungen verloren,
aber die Kiste sollte wieder booten. Evtl. vorher /etc/netinfo
woanders hinkopieren.
Es gibt IIRC auch irgendwo ein tar-Archiv, was der SNS vor der
Aktion anlegt. Wo das allerdings liegt, weiss ich nicht aus dem
Kopf. Schau mal unter / und /etc/netinfo, ob da was liegt.
Evtl. gibt es unter /etc/netinfo ein netinfo.backup, was du
zurueckkopieren kannst.
HTH
Axel
: Vielen Dank im voraus für jegliche Hilfe
: -Max
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From: GehleSoftware@t-online.de (Mein Name)
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Subject: Re: CD Designer?
Date: 9 Oct 1998 19:08:34 GMT
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Hallo!
Weltreise beendet. Ab sofort ist Gehle Software wieder unter
GehleSoftware@t-online.de zu erreichen. Sorry an alle die versucht haben in
den letzten Wochen Kontakt mit uns aufzunehmen.....
Gruss
Carsten Gehle
PS: CDDesigner wird unter OpenStep/NextStep nicht weiterentwickelt, wir
arbeiten gerande an einem Port zu MacOX X Server, den es allerdings nicht
vor Anfang naechsten Jahres geben wird.
Anke Ehlers schrieb in Nachricht ...
>In <6tuiev$bap$2@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
>> Hi Leute!
>>
>> Einer meiner Kunden (ja, es gibt noch einige wenige die NS/OS einsetzen,
>an
>> glaubt es kaum) moechte gerne CD-Designer kaufen, leider scheint der
Autor
>> auf einer Weltreise zu sein. Weiss jemand wie man an die
>> Autoren/Distributoren herankommt? Telefon? Fax? Email? Trommeln?
>> Rauchzeichen? :-)
>
>Jaja, Carsten Gehle zu erreichen gleicht Lottospielen. Lizenzen kannste
aber
> auch bei RCN (info@rcn.de) in Berlin kaufen.
>
> Anke
>
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: CD Designer?
Date: 13 Oct 1998 05:49:17 GMT
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Mein Name wrote:
> PS: CDDesigner wird unter OpenStep/NextStep nicht weiterentwickelt, wir
> arbeiten gerande an einem Port zu MacOX X Server, den es allerdings
cht
> vor Anfang naechsten Jahres geben wird.
Wird es dann die letzte Version frei für Openstep geben?
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: T-Online und OPENSTEP 4.2?
Date: 13 Oct 1998 08:17:35 GMT
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Moin,
kann mir mal ein T-Onlinesurfer seine Configdateien fuer PPP via T-Online
mailen?
Danke
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From: wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: CD Designer?
Date: 13 Oct 1998 11:29:44 GMT
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Juergen Grieb (juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de) wrote:
: Mein Name wrote:
: > PS: CDDesigner wird unter OpenStep/NextStep nicht weiterentwickelt, wir
: > arbeiten gerande an einem Port zu MacOX X Server, den es allerdings
: cht
: > vor Anfang naechsten Jahres geben wird.
: Wird es dann die letzte Version frei für Openstep geben?
oder zumindest ein Crossupdate?
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: CD Designer?
Date: 13 Oct 1998 10:52:12 GMT
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juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) wrote:
>Wird es dann die letzte Version frei für Openstep geben?
Na klar weil der CDDesigner bestimmt 240000 mal in Deutschland verkauft wurde
und der Entwickler jetzt sicher kein Geld mehr braucht ;-)
Es gibt offiziell maximal 20000 installierte NEXT/OPENSTEP Rechner in
Deutschland.
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From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff)
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Subject: Re: CD Designer?
Date: 13 Oct 1998 13:54:03 GMT
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In <6vupkt$kk@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Juergen Grieb wrote:
> > PS: CDDesigner wird unter OpenStep/NextStep nicht weiterentwickelt, wir
>
> Wird es dann die letzte Version frei für Openstep geben?
Und bekommen die Leute die sich schon eine Version für OPENSTEP gekauft haben
dann ihr Geld wieder ;-).
Jürgen
PS.: Besteht später die Möglichkeit auf ein ugrade (MacOS X)?
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: T-Online und OPENSTEP 4.2?
Date: 13 Oct 1998 14:56:07 GMT
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dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) wrote:
> kann mir mal ein T-Onlinesurfer seine Configdateien fuer PPP via T-Online
> mailen?
Musterdateien liegen auf dem NEXTTOYOU-FTP-Server (4/97).
Tschau
Uli
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From: pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: NFS-Verzeichnisse von Linux auf OPENSTEP
Date: 13 Oct 1998 22:19:00 GMT
Organization: private
Message-ID: <700jkk$294@luck.shnet.org>
Hi.
Wir haben einen Fileserver unter Linux mit dem Userlevel-NFS-Server. Die
Verzeichnisse sind mit NFS auf unsere Mach-Clients (OPENSTEP 4.2) gemount.
Bei OPENSTEP Applikatioen ist es sehr verbreitet, dass sie ihre Dokumente in
eigene Verzeichnisse speichern (Wrapper). Die Applikation legt dazu ein
Verzeichnis an und speichert ihre Daten in Dateien innerhalb dieses
Verzeichnisses. Das Problem ist nun, dass wenn derselbe Client in dieses eben
erzeugte Verzeichnis wechselt und die darin gespeicherten Dateien lesen will,
diese Dateien fuer ihn nicht da sind. Auf dem Server sind sie korrekt
gespeichert worden und auch andere Clients koennen sie lesen, nur eben der
nicht, der sie gespeichert hatte. Der Client, der sie gespeichert hat kann
sie erst lesen, wenn ein andere Client bzw der Server sie gelesen hat (ein ls
reicht) oder man im Workspace manuell ein 'update' macht.
Wenn auf dem Client saemtliche NFS Caches ausgeschaltet sind, dann taucht
dieses Problem nicht auf. Allerdings geht die Performance dann dermassen in
den Keller, dass...
Bei einer HP-UX als Fileserver gibt es das Problem nicht.
Ist vielleicht jemanden dieses Symptom bekannt?
Jede Hilfe ist erwuenscht!
Danke.
From: Bernhard Mayr <bernhard.mayr@tkc.at>
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Subject: Empfehlung
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:52:55 +0200
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Danke fuer die Hinweise zu meinem Installationsproblem NS 3.3 <->
Diamond Stealth.
Da ich nun davon ueberzeugt bin, dass diese Kombination nicht ordentlich
funktioniert, denke ich daran, mir eine neue Graphikkarte zuzulegen.
Dabei dachte ich an die Matrox Millenium 2064W mit 4 oder 8 MB WRAM.
Hat einer der geneigten Leserinnen oder Leser dieser Gruppe Erfahrungen
mit der Kobination NS 3.3 <-> Matrox Millenium?
Welche anderen Kobinationen NS 3.3 <-> Graphikkarte PCI-Bus sind noch
empfehlenswert? Randbedingung: es sollte auch unter Linux funktionieren!
Herzlichen Dank,
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From: Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at>
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Subject: Probleme mit Samba/Drucken
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:39:46 +0200
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Hi!
Ich hab mir (ziemlich problemlos) den SamabaManger1.0.2 auf meiner
Station installiert um von WindowsNT drucken zu können.
Der Drucker wird auch schön exportiert, auf NT habe ich ihn mit
dem Adobe-Tool und dem ppp File von Adobe eingerichtet, nur drucken
kann ich nicht.
Wenn ich drucken will, kommt immer die Fehlermeldung
"Die Syntax für den Dateinamen, Verzeichnisnamen oder die
Datenträgerbezeichnug ist falsch"
Die Hilfe von WinNT (Ist der Drucker angeschlossen?
Hat der Drucker Papier? ...) ist leider keine.
Also was tu ich in meiner Ratlosigkeit???
Danke, Max
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: NFS-Verzeichnisse von Linux auf OPENSTEP
Date: 14 Oct 1998 09:23:21 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de/
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pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler) wrote:
(...)
>Wenn auf dem Client saemtliche NFS Caches ausgeschaltet sind, dann taucht
>dieses Problem nicht auf. Allerdings geht die Performance dann dermassen in
>den Keller, dass...
>
>Bei einer HP-UX als Fileserver gibt es das Problem nicht.
>
>Ist vielleicht jemanden dieses Symptom bekannt?
>
>Jede Hilfe ist erwuenscht!
Installiere NetBSD. Laeuft hier als Server seit ueber 2 Jahren 24h/Tag.
Allerdings habe ich richtige DEC-Chip (PCI) Netzkarten.
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From: "day_after" <tomorrow@eunet.at>
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Subject: sendmail uucp ns3.3
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 01:48:41 -0000
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hallo,
habe ploetzlich probleme mit sendmail und uucp - nachdem das ueber jahre
funktioniert hat.
sendmail bringt SYSERR too many hops 18 .....
nahezu originale sendmail.mailhost.cf im einsatz
an den .forward files und backbounces kanns eigentlich nicht liegen, keine
.forward vorhanden
hat jemand eine idee?
danke ernst
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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:27:38 GMT
In article <6vkcdc$av@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de
(Juergen Grieb) writes:
> Hallo,
>
> da mein Linux-Router sowieso die ganze Zeit l uft, w rde ich gerne meine
> Faxerei ber diesen abwickeln.
>
> Nun, wie muss ich meinen OS-Rechner konfigurieren, dass ich m glichst
> mfortabel ber den Linux-Rechner faxen kann? Geht das wom glich ber das
> Drucken-Faxen Panel?
>
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From: krunte@TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (Kai Jan Runte)
Subject: Suche Adapter Next -> PC-Monitor
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.
Summary:
Message-ID: <3625cab1.0@news.uni-bielefeld.de>
Date: 15 Oct 1998 12:13:05 +0200
Hallo,
ich bin durch gl"ucklichen Zufall Besitzer eines Color-Next
geworden, leider aber ohne Monitor.
Der Monitorausgang sieht dem UltraSparcs ziemlich "ahnlich...
Nun suche ich nach einem Adapter, um einen SVGA-Monitor
anzuschliessen. Gibt es so etwas? Wenn ja, wo kann man ihn
bestellen/kaufen. Oder hat jemand eine Bauanleitung, um so
einen Adapter selber zu l"oten?
Dank im vorraus.
Kai
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Subject: FS:NEXT HARDWARE AND PARTS
From: sales@deepspacetech.com (DeepSpace Technologies)
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We have a limited amount of Next hardware available at this time.
Now is the time to get that machine before it is too late.
Below are some systems we still have available:
Next Color Turbo
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400mb HD
17" Color Monitor
Keyboard
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Release 3.3 user installed on the HD.
Price each $249.00
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25mhz 68040 motherboard
16mb RAM
400mb HD
17" Mono monitor N4000B(converted to non adb)
Keyboard
Mouse
Monitor cable
Release 3.3 user installed on the HD.
Price each $395.00
Next Turbo Cube
33mhz 68040 motherboard
128mb RAM
540mb HD
17" Mono monitor N4000B
Keyboard
Mouse
Monitor cable
Release 3.3 user installed on the HD.
Price each $1495.00
Next Turbo Cube Dimension
33mhz 68040 motherboard
128mb RAM on the motherboard
64mb on the dimension board
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Release 3.3 user installed on the HD.
Price each $1995.00
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From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OpenStep-generiertes Postscript mit GhostScript
Date: 15 Oct 1998 15:41:30 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
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Hallo,
ich habe seit kurzem OpenStep4.2 installiert und will in Ermangelung
eines PostScript-Druckers ghostscript als Printfilter benutzen, wie
ich es auch schon unter NetBSD und Linux getan habe. Im Prinzip klappt
das auch, zumindest kann ich die ps-Files in ghostscript/examples
problemlos ausdrucken. Nur leider scheint ghostscript mit keinem von
OpenStep generierten ps-File etwas anfangen zu koennen. Auch wenn ich
beim Drucken die Ausgabe als geraeteunabhaengiges PostScript in eine
Datei speichere und dann gs aufrufe, gibt es nur Fehlermeldungen. Das
verwundert mich etwas, weil ich in jahrelanger Arbeit unter UNIX fast
noch nie Probleme hatte, ps-Files aus unterschiedlichsten Quellen mit
ghostscript zu drucken.
Kann mit jemand sagen, was ich machen muss, um mit OpenStep
ghostscript-verstaendliches PostScript zu generieren?
Joerg
From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Suche Adapter Next -> PC-Monitor
Date: 15 Oct 1998 23:32:53 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
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Cc: krunte@TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE
In <3625cab1.0@news.uni-bielefeld.de> Kai Jan Runte wrote:
> ich bin durch gl"ucklichen Zufall Besitzer eines Color-Next
> geworden, leider aber ohne Monitor.
> Der Monitorausgang sieht dem UltraSparcs ziemlich "ahnlich...
> Nun suche ich nach einem Adapter, um einen SVGA-Monitor
> anzuschliessen. Gibt es so etwas? Wenn ja, wo kann man ihn
> bestellen/kaufen. Oder hat jemand eine Bauanleitung, um so
> einen Adapter selber zu l"oten?
Wenn Dein Monitor Sync-On-Green und die 68 Hz Scanrate mag sollte es ein 13W3
auf VGA-Kabel tun. Siehe z.B. www.transtec.de.
Mein SGI 17' Guckloch jedenfalls (mit VGA Anschluss, ist ein 'normaler'
Monitor) mag meinen Cube mit Dimension recht gern....
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From: Sandra<Sandra@Hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Dating !!!
Date: 13 Oct 1998 00:05:38 GMT
Organization: RP-Online-Services
Message-ID: <6vu5gi$1eb$353@clubserv.rp-online.de>
NEU NEU NEU !!!
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Subject: RDR2 auf einem G3/300
Date: 16 Oct 98 11:11:02 GMT
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Wir haben hier för den ersten Test zwei G3/300 Mhz gekauft, um auch da
RDR2 zu testen.
Irgenwie gibt's aber rein gar nichts.
Nach dem Hinweis, das ein Restart durchgeföhrt werden soll, passiert
gar nichts mehr. Schwarzer Bildschirm und das war's.
Was haben wir schon alles versucht:
1) Partition auf der internen IDE-Platte kleiner machen (<= 2GB)
2) Externes Plextor-CD (8-fach) genommen
3) Original Apple-Monitor angeschlossen
4) Externe SCSI-Platte mit Partitionen < 2B versucht.
5) Jaz-Drive, das aber nach dem CD-Boot noch nicht einmal als göltiges
SCSI-Device erkannt worden ist genommen.
Alles hat nicht gefruchtet. Es brachte die gleichen Auswirkungen.
Was kann denn noch so getan werden.
Der Rechner ist eigentlich ein handelsueblicher (Bei Prisma-Express gekauft)
ohne besonderen SchnickSchnack
Gibt's Hinweise oder Ideen???????????
Danke
Frank
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From: fsbprop2@aol.com (FSBProP2)
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Subject: Next3.3 + HeidebergPrePress Signastation
Date: 16 Oct 1998 11:36:35 GMT
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Hallo,
ich habe eine SignaStation von HeidelbergPrePress auf einem Scenic ProD5 unter
Next3.2 laufen und möchte auf 3.3.
Folgende Probelem treten auf :
beim reboot bleibt die Maschine trotz -v Option mit schwarzem Bildschirm
hängen. nach 3 - 4 maligem aus-einschalten kommt sie wieder.
beim abmelden => ausschalten bleibt die Maschine mit schwarzem Bildschirm
hängen.
kennt jemand die Problematik und kann mir eventuell weiterhelfen ?
Danke !
Michael Sturm
From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
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Subject: Re: OpenStep-generiertes Postscript mit GhostScript
Date: 16 Oct 1998 13:00:16 GMT
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Hat sich inzwischen erledigt, nach der Installation von
GSPrintFilter1.31 und der dazugehoerigen ghostscript pkg funktioniert
jetzt alles einwandfrei.
Joerg
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From: neitzer@informatik.uni-bonn.de (Guido Neitzer)
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Subject: Re: RDR2 auf einem G3/300
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:17:12 +0200
Organization: University of Bonn
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Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de> wrote:
> Was kann denn noch so getan werden.
Ich denke mal, ihr habt nicht "Developer-Geräte" gekauft, sondern aus
der normalen Serie. Das bedeutet, daß ihr neue Geräte bekommen habt, die
vom Grafiktreiber der DR2 noch nicht unterstützt werden (das sind
momentan noch nur sehr weniger Geräte). In der CR1 werden diese Treiber
vorhanden sein.
cug
From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Fragen zu InterfaceBuilder
Date: 16 Oct 1998 13:20:06 GMT
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Hallo,
nachdem ich die Probleme der Installation von OpenStep4.2 gluecklich
ueberstanden habe, wollte ich mal meine ersten Schritte im
InterfaceBuilder machen und versuchen, das CurrencyConverter-tutorial
nachzuvollziehen. Dabei sind mir einige Dinge im InterfaceBuilder
aufgefallen, die sich ganz anders verhalten, als im Handbuch
angegeben. Erstmal wundert mich, dass es keine Online-Hilfe gibt,
obwohl ein Menueintrag dafuer vorhanden ist. Ist das richtig? Dann ist
es mir noch nicht gelungen, eine Undo-Funktion zu entdecken, gibts die
etwa im InterfaceBuilder nicht? Als naechstes verstehe ich nicht, was
der Menupunkt "Format->Size->Size to Fit" bewirkt?
Im CurrencyConverter tutorial ist von einem NSReturnSign image die
Rede, das bei mir scheinbar nicht vorhanden ist. Schliesslich wird
beschrieben, wie man mit nextKeyView festlegen kann, in welcher
Reihenfolge die GUI-Objekte mit Tab aktiviert werden. Ich habe aber
den Eindruck, ob ich die Objekte damit verknuepfe oder nicht, sie
werden immer der Reihe nach von Oben nach Unten aktiviert.
Funktioniert nextKeyView nicht oder mache ich was falsch?
Schliesslich noch zwei andere Sachen: ich kann keine 3Dkit-includes
entdecken, ist das 3Dkit nicht mehr Bestandteil von OS4.2?
Und, wenn ich versuche, den screensaver fuer den Login screen zu
aktivieren, funktioniert das auch nicht. Ist das normal?
Danke im Voraus fuer jede Antwort,
Joerg
From: graudeju@iese.fhg.de (Holger Graudejus [Diplom Girard])
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Hilfe:Nach dem Benutzen von SNS startet OS4.2 nicht mehr
Date: 16 Oct 1998 14:28:47 GMT
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In article <3621F4B6.DF606EDB@company.com>,
John Smith <jsmth@company.com> writes:
>
> [SimpleNetworkStarter]
> dem ist nicht so. Ich kann auch nicht mehr mit config=default starten:
> er kann default.table nicht finden (oder so).
Sicher, dass es nicht "Default" sein muesste? Also mit grossem "D"?
> Also, ich würde ich gerne wissen wie man die Einstellungen die SNS
> durchge
> führt hat wieder rüchgängig macht (Von der console oder im single user
> modus!?!)
Irgendwo liegen doch templates herum... /usr/templates
oder /private/templates ... vielleicht auch mit grossem "T".
Ciao, Holger.
From: dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: RDR2 auf einem G3/300
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:42:47 +0100
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Frank Knobloch <F.Knobloch@inis.de> wrote:
> Wir haben hier för den ersten Test zwei G3/300 Mhz gekauft, um auch da
> RDR2 zu testen.
> Irgenwie gibt's aber rein gar nichts.
> Nach dem Hinweis, das ein Restart durchgeföhrt werden soll, passiert
> gar nichts mehr. Schwarzer Bildschirm und das war's.
Dumme Sache das! Rhapsody DR2 unterstützt bei den G3 PowerMac leider nur
die "erste" Generation. Die neuen Rechner unterscheiden sich unter
anderem im Graphiksubsystem. Da liegt IMHO das Übel. Das einzige, was
möglicherweise helfen könnte ist eine der unterstützte Graphikkarte
einzubauen. Bei mir läuft beispielsweise ein handelsübliche IMS
TwinTurbo 4MB (hiermit bootet Rhapsody, der Startscreen kommt korrekt,
aber dann hängt mein Pulsar [tja, die kleinen Unterschiede im Hardware-
Design zw. PM9500 und Pulsar (*seuftz*)] im weitern Installationsverlauf
sich leider auf).
Ansonsten einen "gebrauchten" 1st-generation G3 oder einen alten 7600,
8500, 8600, 9500 oder 9600 besorgen ... Sorry, aber liegt an Apple.
Ciao
Dieter
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
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Subject: Re: Next3.3 + HeidebergPrePress Signastation
Date: 17 Oct 1998 08:40:06 GMT
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In <19981016073635.23889.00001643@ng25.aol.com> FSBProP2 wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> ich habe eine SignaStation von HeidelbergPrePress auf einem Scenic ProD5
unter
> Next3.2 laufen und möchte auf 3.3.
>
> Folgende Probelem treten auf :
>
> beim reboot bleibt die Maschine trotz -v Option mit schwarzem Bildschirm
> hängen.
Du solltest etwas genauer angeben, wo sie hängen bleibt. Was sind die
letzten Meldungen beim Booten?
> nach 3 - 4 maligem aus-einschalten kommt sie wieder.
Das tut dem Filesystem aber gar nicht gut.
> beim abmelden => ausschalten bleibt die Maschine mit schwarzem Bildschirm
> hängen.
>
> kennt jemand die Problematik und kann mir eventuell weiterhelfen ?
Hast Du mal mit config=Default im VGA-Modus gebootet?
Welche Grafikkarte ist drin?
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From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Next3.3 + HeidebergPrePress Signastation
Date: 18 Oct 1998 14:13:42 GMT
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In <70csn0$77k$2@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> Vorsicht: Das geht so nicht, der Appleshare (Partner) Client der bei der
> SignaStation dabei und auch massiv in die Printausgabe involviert ist tut
> unter NS3.3 meines Wissenstandes nach nicht mehr richtig funktioniert.
Sorry fuer diesen Wortmuell - erst Aspirin schucken, dann posten :-) - der
Sinn sollte klar sein....
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From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
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Subject: Re: Next3.3 + HeidebergPrePress Signastation
Date: 18 Oct 1998 14:07:28 GMT
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In <709l56$6si$1@marsu.navigator.de> Markus Wenzel wrote:
> In <19981016073635.23889.00001643@ng25.aol.com> FSBProP2 wrote:
> > Hallo,
> >
> > ich habe eine SignaStation von HeidelbergPrePress auf einem Scenic ProD5
> unter
> > Next3.2 laufen und möchte auf 3.3.
> >
> > Folgende Probelem treten auf :
> >
> > beim reboot bleibt die Maschine trotz -v Option mit schwarzem Bildschirm
> > hängen.
Selbst wenn es denn mal bootet...
Vorsicht: Das geht so nicht, der Appleshare (Partner) Client der bei der
SignaStation dabei und auch massiv in die Printausgabe involviert ist tut
unter NS3.3 meines Wissenstandes nach nicht mehr richtig funktioniert. Es ist
moeglich diesen durch meinen CAPer zu ersetzen (ist sogar viel performanter
:-)), aber sei gewiss das Heidelberg dann keinen Finger mehr fuer eine
derartige 'Bastelmaschine' heben wird. Sobald auch nur ein Bit nicht mehr
original ist, wird kein Wartungstechniker mehr etwas dran machen wollen, es
sei denn das alte NS3.2/Partner wieder aufspielen (die meisten von denen
koennten auch gar nicht - woher sollten sie es denn wissen).
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From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz)
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Subject: Re: Empfehlung
Date: 18 Oct 1998 18:21:31 GMT
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Hi,
Sorry, aber ich hab die Vordiskussion nicht mitbekommen. Bei mir werkelt
seit 3 Jahren eine Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM mit NS3.3, OS4.1 und nun OS4.2
problemlos. Allerdings musste ich bei OS immer den alten Treiber einsetzen,
da sie da das Gamma Korrektion vermurkst haben.
Fuer OS4.2 kann ich im Moment die ATI Xpert@Work empfehlen. Eignet sich
auch als Spielebeschleuniger unter Windows. Leider ist es mir nicht
moeglich mit der 8MB Version auch Aufloesung hoeher 1600x1200/60Hz zu
fahren. Mit 1280xY/Z klappt alles. Naja. Grafikkarten sind ja nicht
mehr so teuer...
Viele Gruesse,
Bernhard.
From: GehleSoftware@t-online.de
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Subject: Re: CD Designer?
Date: 18 Oct 1998 20:40:38 GMT
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In <6vvdj8$hqg$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Richard Woeber wrote:
> Juergen Grieb (juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de) wrote:
> : Mein Name wrote:
>
> : > PS: CDDesigner wird unter OpenStep/NextStep nicht weiterentwickelt,
> wir
> : > arbeiten gerande an einem Port zu MacOX X Server, den es allerdings
> : cht
> : > vor Anfang naechsten Jahres geben wird.
>
> : Wird es dann die letzte Version frei för Openstep geben?
>
> oder zumindest ein Crossupdate?
An eine freie Version des CDDesigners ist nicht gedacht, ein Crossupdate
wird es natuerlich geben.
Gruss
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From: wachenbr@dilbert.fr.internet.bosch.de (Lars Wachenbrunner - Bosch - QI/ASN2)
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Subject: WO Builder (undo)
Date: 19 Oct 1998 08:44:55 GMT
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Hallo !
Gibt es im WebObject Builder keine Undo-Funktion ?
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From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
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Subject: Re: Fragen zu InterfaceBuilder
Date: 19 Oct 1998 13:55:05 GMT
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Einige Fragen konnte ich inzwischen selbst beantworten. Das
NSReturnSign habe ich bekommen, nachdem ich es im IB wrapper directory
in die Datei images.irgendwas eingetragen habe, in der
merkwuerdigerweise alle anderen Images ausser diesem eingetragen waren.(???)
Trozdem bleiben noch einige Fragen:
1) gibt es im IB kein undo?
2) wenn ich mehrere Objekte Shift-anklicke, um das erste zum
Referenzobjekt zu machen, klappt das zwar fuer "same Size", aber fuer
"make Row" oder "make Column" wird immer das oberste als
Referenzobjekt genommen, ist das ein Bug?
Ausserdem beendet sich der ProjectBuilder regelmaessig, wenn ich den
Find Panel ausgiebig nutze. Insgesamt finde ich das etwas
enttaeuschend, ich haette erwartet, dass das Ganze nach 10 Jahren
Entwicklung stabil und zuverlaessig ist.
Gibt es ansonsten irgendwo eine Liste, in der evtl. alle weiteren Bugs
des IB/PB stehen? Es ist etwas frustrierend, wenn immer wieder Dinge
nicht so funktionieren, wie im Handbuch beschrieben(ich dachte,
Betatester spielt man nur bei Fenster 95?)
Joerg
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From: sepu_gmbh@t-online.de (Marcus Miss)
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Subject: Auflösung ändern ?
Date: 16 Oct 1998 13:23:01 GMT
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Wie kann ich die Darstellungsauflösung bzw. Tiefe ändern (DR2, G3, 6MB VRam)
? Aktuelle Darstellung ist 1280 * 1024 / 75Hz und 8 Bit Farbtiefe. Das
System stellt mir keine weiteren Auflösung zur Verfügung. Gibt es einen
Trick ?
From: Markus Stoll <stoll@codebox.de>
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Subject: Re: Next3.3 + HeidebergPrePress Signastation
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:31:44 +0200
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> In <70csn0$77k$2@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> > Vorsicht: Das geht so nicht, der Appleshare (Partner) Client der bei der
> > SignaStation dabei und auch massiv in die Printausgabe involviert ist tut
> > unter NS3.3 meines Wissenstandes nach nicht mehr richtig funktioniert.
Hmm, ich habe das Teil für einen Kunden schon mal unter 3.3 installiert und
soweit ich mich entsinne, war auf der Signastation-CD das auch erwähnt, daß 3.3
ok sei für den Betrieb. Jedenfalls lief da auch der Partner-Appleshareclient
unter 3.3 bestens.
Von daher denke ich schon, daß es sich hier eher um ein klassisches Problem mit
der Grafikkarte handelt.
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From: scholz@munich.object-factory.com (Bernhard Scholz,Obejct Factory, Inselkammerstr. 4, Unterhaching)
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Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
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Dazu noch folgendes:
Ich habe hier ATAPI ZIP Laufwerke unter OS4.2. Die funktionieren
auch prima, und werden --- man hoere und staune --- vom EIDE Treiber
als SCSI Laufwerk gemounted! Es scheint, als ob NeXT hier irgendeine
Magic vollbracht hat.
Problem ist nur: ich brauch wohl noch einen Disktabeintrag, da
sich die Diskette nicht auf NeXT umformatieren lassen sondern nur
als DOS Disketten verwendet werden koennen.
Aber interessant finde ich diese IDE -> SCSI Konvertierung schon ...
Viele Gruesse,
Bernhard.
From: thor@cs.tu-berlin.de (Thorsten Albrecht)
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Subject: Re: Maus loeten
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Richard Scholz <richard@REMOVETHISsubito.de> writes:
>Christian Neuss wrote:
>>
>> Busmaus geht, aber *nicht* PS/2 oder seriell. Das Amigamaeuse gehen, weiss
>> ich nur vom Hoerensagen.
>Das Amigamäuse funktionieren kann ich bestätigen. Ich hatte mir mal eine
>an meinen NeXT angeschlossen.
>Die haben ausserdem den Charme, daß man für sie die Pinbelegung
>unproblematisch bekommt.
>Bei PC Busmäusen wäre ich mir bei der Pinbelegung nicht so sicher.
>Und : Amigamäuse gab es auch in Schwarz ;-)
>Allerdings, kriegt man Amigamäuse heutzutage überhaupt noch ?
Jupp.
Eine schwarze (!) Maus mit 560 dpi (!!!) gibt es in einem Amiga-Laden
in Berlin:
City Disk, Friedrich-Karl-Str. 1-3, 12103 Berlin, Tel. (030) 752 09 80
fuer DM 59,-. Modell "Wizard 560", Fa. Wizard.
Vorteil: leichter und besser zu bewegen als die Originalnextmaus und
aufgrund ihrer hohen Aufloesung sind keine
"dwrites NeXT1 MouseScaling xxx" mehr noetig.
Uebrigens laesst sie sich auch auf Adapter fuer Atarimaeuse umstellen.
Thorsten
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
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Subject: WebObjects: Sendmail.m
Date: 21 Oct 1998 11:51:26 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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Hallo,
ich bin unlaengst ueber ein Problem der Sendmail-Komponente
gestolpert, die sich auf Peanuts findet. Das Problem ist
etwas tueckisch, laesst sich aber leicht beheben. Das fast
jeder Programmierer einer WebObjectspraesenz irgendwann
eine automatische Email erzeugen will poste ich hier hier
rasch mal den Workaround.
In Sendmail.sharedInstance wird eine statische Instanzvariable
me abgefragt, und wenn diese nil ist, mit [[self class] alloc]
angelegt. Das ist eingentlich ganz pfiffig, auf diese Art kann
man von Sendmail erben, ohne diese Methode ueberladen zu
muessen. Das Problem ist aber, dass Luke Howard gleich ein
Autorelease hinterherschickt, damit auch brav alles aufgeraeumt
wird. Der code sieht wie folgt aus:
+ (Sendmail *)sharedInstance
{
..
if (me == nil) {
me = [[[[self class] alloc] init] autorelease];
}
Leider vergisst er aber, in dealloc me wieder auf nil zu setzen.
Was also passieren kann, ist dass eine Sendmail erzeugt, und
irgendwann released wird, beim naechsten Mail aber nicht mehr
korrekt eine Instanz erzeugt und zurueckgegeben wird.
Der einfachste Fix ist, das autorelease wegzulassen:
if (me == nil) {
me = [[[self class] alloc] init];
}
die eine Singletoninstanz tut uns naemlich wirklich nicht weh,
es wird ja nur genau eine angelegt.
Hoffe das hilft, Chris
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From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
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Subject: Re: Empfehlung
Date: 21 Oct 1998 15:45:27 GMT
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Bernhard Scholz (scholz@leo.org) wrote:
> Fuer OS4.2 kann ich im Moment die ATI Xpert@Work empfehlen. Eignet sich
Genau die habe ich unter OS4.2 (mit 8MB,AGP) und mir kommt das
Verschieben grosser Fenster etwas ruckelig vor, ist das normal oder
ist der Treiber nicht optimiert? Ich habe das letzte Mal eine
NeXTStation vor vielen Jahren gesehen, aber wenn mich meine Erinnerung
nicht truegt, war selbst da schon das Verschieben absolut ruckelfrei.
Joerg
From: mandel@leibniz.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de (Thomas v. Mandel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Tex Probleme
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:48:29 +0100
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Hallo,
seit einigen Tagen besitze ich nun auch eine NexTstation (Mono, System 3.3
User vorinstalliert) und musste feststellen, dass sich meine tex-files mit
TexView weder ansehen noch compilieren lassen. Entweder bekommen ich die
Meldung command not found beim Versuch einen einfachen tex-file zu
compilieren oder aber kryptische Meldungen über fehlende Metafonts, wenn ich
eine dvi öffnen will.
Auch mitgelieferte tex bzw. dvi's lassen sich nicht ansehen/compilieren. Wer
weiss rat
gruss
thomas
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Tex Probleme
Date: 21 Oct 1998 17:15:55 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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mandel@leibniz.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de (Thomas v. Mandel) wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>seit einigen Tagen besitze ich nun auch eine NexTstation (Mono, System 3.3
>User vorinstalliert) und musste feststellen, dass sich meine tex-files mit
>TexView weder ansehen noch compilieren lassen. Entweder bekommen ich die
>Meldung command not found beim Versuch einen einfachen tex-file zu
>compilieren oder aber kryptische Meldungen über fehlende Metafonts, wenn ich
>eine dvi öffnen will.
>Auch mitgelieferte tex bzw. dvi's lassen sich nicht ansehen/compilieren. Wer
>weiss rat
Klingt als haettest du TeX nicht installiert. (Der DVI Previewer
ist trotzdem drauf, weil er in den Examples steht). TeX ist als
Package auf der 3.3 CD drauf, falls mich mein Gedaechtnis nicht
truegt. Moderner ist die TeTeX Package (Peanuts), aber sie erfordert
etwas mehr Handarbeit beim Installieren (und einen aktualisierten
DVI Previewer).
HTH, Chris
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: Tex Probleme
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Thomas v. Mandel <mandel@leibniz.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de> wrote:
: seit einigen Tagen besitze ich nun auch eine NexTstation (Mono, System 3.3
: User vorinstalliert) und musste feststellen, dass sich meine tex-files mit
: TexView weder ansehen noch compilieren lassen. Entweder bekommen ich die
: Meldung command not found beim Versuch einen einfachen tex-file zu
: compilieren oder aber kryptische Meldungen über fehlende Metafonts, wenn ich
: eine dvi öffnen will.
: Auch mitgelieferte tex bzw. dvi's lassen sich nicht ansehen/compilieren. Wer
: weiss rat
TeX war nicht Bestandteil des User-Softwarepaketes. TeX kam als
separates Installer-Package bei der Developer-Version mit.
Dieses (mitgelieferte) TeX ist aber auch schon reichlich betagt, ich
wuerde stattdessen eher zur aktuellen teTeX-Version greifen (-->
peanuts.leo.org).
HTH,
Ingmar
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From: cla_sch@tallawe_lahn_de (Claus Schneeberger)
Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
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In <70ifsg$9vq$1@ns.munich.object-factory.com> Bernhard
Scholz,Obejct Factory, Inselkammerstr. 4, Unterhaching wrote:
> Problem ist nur: ich brauch wohl noch einen Disktabeintrag,
da
> sich die Diskette nicht auf NeXT umformatieren lassen
sondern nur
> als DOS Disketten verwendet werden koennen.
Bei meinem Syquest Laufwerk mußte ich lediglich die Partition
löschen und schon wurde das Medium von NeXT als neu erkannt
und konnte formatiert werden. Möglicherweise funktioniert das
ja mit dem ZIP auch?
Tata, Claus
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
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Subject: Re: Empfehlung
Date: 15 Oct 1998 11:43:25 GMT
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Bernhard Mayr (bernhard.mayr@tkc.at) wrote:
: Danke fuer die Hinweise zu meinem Installationsproblem NS 3.3 <->
: Diamond Stealth.
: Da ich nun davon ueberzeugt bin, dass diese Kombination nicht ordentlich
: funktioniert, denke ich daran, mir eine neue Graphikkarte zuzulegen.
:
: Dabei dachte ich an die Matrox Millenium 2064W mit 4 oder 8 MB WRAM.
:
: Hat einer der geneigten Leserinnen oder Leser dieser Gruppe Erfahrungen
: mit der Kobination NS 3.3 <-> Matrox Millenium?
: Welche anderen Kobinationen NS 3.3 <-> Graphikkarte PCI-Bus sind noch
: empfehlenswert? Randbedingung: es sollte auch unter Linux funktionieren!
Hallo,
tja, mit Empfehlungen ist das so eine Sache :-).
Persoenlich habe ich eine Matrox Millenium (1) mit 4MB, hier an meinem
Arbeitsplatz bin ich - gerade was NS/OS-Maschinen angeht, aus denen
die Arbeitsplatzmaschinen fast ausschliesslich bestehen - fuer die
Beschaffung von Millenium und Millenium II - Karten verantwortlich.
Mit der Millenium (1) habe ich selbst nie Probleme gehabt, mit denen
am Arbeitsplatz manchmal, wenn sich das (VGA-)BIOS aenderte. Die
jeweils naechste Treiber-Version hat diese Probleme immer behoben.
[D.h. fuer Milleniuem gibt es derzeit keine Probleme, weder unter
NS 3.3 noch unter OS 4.2!].
Die Millenium II (ebenfalls immer mit 4 MB um 'vernuenftig' 24 (bzw.
32) Bit True-Colour zur Verfuegung zu haben) haben (bisher) nie
Probleme gemacht.
Was True-Colour, vor allem bei hoher Aufloesung angeht, liebe ich
diese Karten (bin da also voreingenommen). Ich habe [zum Zeitpunkt
ihres Erscheinens und ihrer Hauptverkaufszeit, heute sind ja auch
andere Karten 'Mode' und in True-Colour gut] nichts vergleichbar
Gutes gefunden. Ein '3D'-Modus ist bei der Millenium (1) aller-
dings so gut wie nicht vorhanden und der der Millenium II soll auch
nicht das Staerkste sein :-( :-).
Allerdings - wer braucht 3D bei X11 (ohne OpenGL) oder NS/OS?
Und die WinXX-Treiber gaukeln natuerlich 'vernuenftige' 3D vor,
soll heissen, es laeuft 'alles' damit, die Frage ist, schnell.
Einem Vergleich mit 3Dfx halten sie (m.E.) nicht stand, aber die
Frage ist ja auch immer die nach dem Einsatzzweck!
LINUX (Debian 2.0) laeuft ohne Probleme auf beiden Type, selbst-
verstaendlich auch X11 (XFree, wobei die naechste Version mit Dank
an S.u.S.E. auch die G200er Versionen unterstuetzen soll, die ja
die 'heutigen' Matrox-Karten sind). Formal gehoeren die zugehoerigen
MGA-Graphik-Chips auch zu denen, die eine spezielle Geschwindigkeits-
unterstuetzung erfahren haben, ich frage mich jedoch, wie weit diese
geht bzw. wie gut sie ist. Einsetzen laesst sich X11 jedoch prima
damit.
Accelerated bietet wohl eine (definitive) Spezialunterstuetzung der
Chips an. Fuer die G200er Karten zeigt eine Tabelle in
http://www.MatroxUsers.com/, genauer in http://www.MatroxUsers.com/body.html
die Qualitaet dieser Beschleunigung.
Personelich bin und bleibe ich bislang im Punkt Graphik-Karten
ueberzeugter Matrox-Kunde, insbesondere was die Darstellungsqualitaet angeht.
"Zum Spielen" und fuer den reinen Schwerpunkt 3D mag es bessere Karten
geben.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: Next3.3 + HeidebergPrePress Signastation
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:34:50 GMT
In article <362C5880.D39E6850@codebox.de> Markus Stoll <stoll@codebox.de>
writes:
> > In <70csn0$77k$2@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> > > Vorsicht: Das geht so nicht, der Appleshare (Partner) Client der bei
der
> > > SignaStation dabei und auch massiv in die Printausgabe involviert
ist tut
> > > unter NS3.3 meines Wissenstandes nach nicht mehr richtig
funktioniert.
>
> Hmm, ich habe das Teil f r einen Kunden schon mal unter 3.3 installiert
und
> soweit ich mich entsinne, war auf der Signastation-CD das auch erw hnt,
da 3.3
> ok sei f r den Betrieb. Jedenfalls lief da auch der
Partner-Appleshareclient
> unter 3.3 bestens.
>
Das geht unserer Erfahrung nach auch auf OPENSTEP 4.2, nur Partner will da
zun chst nicht, da auf Betriebssystemversion 3.x abgefragt wird...
(in einem ShellScript)
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <362f11ed.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 22 Oct 98 11:07:25 GMT
Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de> wrote:
>TeX war nicht Bestandteil des User-Softwarepaketes. TeX kam als
>separates Installer-Package bei der Developer-Version mit.
Eigentlich ist es auf der UserCD und musste nach der Installation extra
installiert werden...
>Dieses (mitgelieferte) TeX ist aber auch schon reichlich betagt, ich
>wuerde stattdessen eher zur aktuellen teTeX-Version greifen (-->
>peanuts.leo.org).
Wuerde ich auch dazu raten ... Bei Problemen mit der Installation mailst Du
mich einfach mal an (sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de)
>Error #152 - Windows not found: (C)heer (P)arty (D)ance
:-)
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From: wachenbr@dilbert.fr.internet.bosch.de (Lars Wachenbrunner - Bosch - QI/ASN2)
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Subject: Q: Dt. Quellen zu WO ?
Date: 22 Oct 1998 13:06:30 GMT
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hallo
kennt jemand dt. quellen (faq's, tips & tricks, mailinglist ) zu
WebObjects ?
danke,
ciao lars
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Dt. Quellen zu WO ?
Date: 22 Oct 1998 13:10:54 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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wachenbr@dilbert.fr.internet.bosch.de (Lars Wachenbrunner - Bosch - QI/ASN2)
wrote:
>kennt jemand dt. quellen (faq's, tips & tricks, mailinglist ) zu
>WebObjects ?
In der Nexttoyou sind ein paar Artikel.. ansonsten siehts recht duenn
aus. Ein Server mit einer WO Einfuehrung ist aber in Vorbereitung,
demnext mehr in diesem Theater.
C.
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From: Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F6rnenburg?= <erik@object-factory.com>
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Subject: Neue Version von ALEXANDRA
Date: 22 Oct 1998 16:11:46 GMT
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Hier ein Posting, das bald in comp.sys.next.announce erscheinen wird. Ich
hoffe mal, daß das nicht als Spam angesehen wird. Für alle, die nicht so
gerne Englisch lesen, die Zusammenfassung in deutsch: Es gibt eine neue
Version des bekannten Newsreaders ALEXANDRA. Diese kann fast alle dem MIME
Standard entsprechenden Postings korrekt darstellen, URLs werden mit dem
bekannten kleinen `Zaps' verschönert und außerdems gibt's noch einige
Detailverbesserungen.
--- schnipp ---
Update to the free newsreader application ALEXANDRA is now available.
DORTMUND, GERMANY -- October 22, 1998. Finally, a new release of the highly
acclaimed newsreader ALEXANDRA has been made publically available. This
version includes parts of a new message decoder from the forthcoming version
of Alexandra for MacOS X which makes this version almost MIME compliant.
Also, certain minor changes proposed by the GNKSA paper were made in order
enhance user friendliness. For a comprehensive list of changes see below.
In contrast to previous versions ALEXANDRA 0.9 makes use of the foundation
kit which means that you need NEXTSTEP 3.3 or OPENSTEP. I assume that it also
runs on a NEXTSTEP 3.2 system with the "Foundation User Patch" but this was
not tested.
Alexandra is distributed under the GNU Public License. Therefore, you can use
the application without having to pay any fees and you are granted access to
the full source code so that you can modify the application if something
annoys you or you have some special requirements/ideas. Initially, Alexandra
is available as source and precompiled binary from OBJECT FACTORY's server.
http://www.object-factory.com/Alexandra
http://www.object-factory.com/Alexandra/Download.html
Feel free to upload it to the FTP server of your choice. If you want to
compile Alexandra yourself, make sure that you're running NEXTSTEP Developer
3.3 and have MiscKit version 1.6.1 or above installed.
The application is not officially supported but we are looking forward to
hearing your comments and suggestions.
mailto:alexandra-info@object-factory.com
Following patches to ALEXANDRA 0.82 are included in this release:
- Various patches (trh7) by Tom Hageman
- NEXTTOYOU patch for TIFF database
Changes include:
- More header fields displayed by default.
- New message decoder; all common message types and encodings can be
displayed properly.
- URLs are prefixed with a little 'zap' that can be double-clicked to
open the location. It is also possible to drag the zaps into OmniWeb
or any other application that supports WebStep pasteboard types.
- Setting of a font in preferences works (again!)
- The 'Kill Authors' panel is resizable. (A neccessity these days!)
- Quoted text is rewrapped to 72 characters per line.
- Header fields that contain 8bit characters are properly encoded.
- References header is corrected if necessary.
- Spaces are silently removed from the Newsgroups header.
- Proper headers are generated for ASCII only postings.
- Posting is disallowed if the quoted text was not edited
- A stern warning is presented if an attempt is made to cancel
articles written by a person with a different e-mail address.
- A warning is presented if an attempt is made to post a reply when
the original poster has request reply via e-mail.
Know problems:
- Signature detection is still missing.
- Some articles contain characters that cannot be rendered using
NEXTSTEP string encoding. Unfortunately, these seem to trigger a bug
in the string class which results in large amount of questions
marks or, in very rare cases, a crash of the application.
- Drag and Drop of attachments to Workspace Manager does not work
properly.
Important Note #1: THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL VERSION. Keep your previous
version until you are sure that you want to switch!
Important Note #2: The message decoder makes heavy use of foundation's string
and data objects whereas the display system in general and the text system in
particular are C string based. This means that a lot of conversions are
needed which make this version of Alexandra slower than previous versions and
will definitely make it consume more memory. This also means that future
versions will be faster again when the conversions aren't needed anymore. But
then again, who cares if the slowest machine that the next version will run
on is a 233Mhz G3...?
Important Note #3: In some environments, particularly those in which news are
kept for a long time, it can take a good while to enter a newsgroup. This is
due to the fact that Alexandra fetches the headers for *all* articles which,
in this case, is a Bad Thing. By issuing the following commands in a terminal
window you can restrict Alexandra to fetching only the last 100 articles (or
50% of the available articles if that is less.)
dwrite Alexandra PrivateExpire YES
dwrite Alexandra PrivateExpireAbsoluteOffset 100
dwrite Alexandra PrivateExpireRelativOffset 50
Note, however, that even if you select 'All Articles' you will only see these
100 articles. There is no way (except setting the expire default to NO) to
access older articles.
And now: Have fun!
--- schnapp ---
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Telephone: ++49 +231 9751370, Internet: http://www.object-factory.com
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Neue Version von ALEXANDRA
Date: 23 Oct 1998 11:22:09 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F6rnenburg?= <erik@object-factory.com> wrote:
>
>Hier ein Posting, das bald in comp.sys.next.announce erscheinen wird. Ich
>hoffe mal, daß das nicht als Spam angesehen wird. Für alle, die nicht so
>gerne Englisch lesen, die Zusammenfassung in deutsch: Es gibt eine neue
>Version des bekannten Newsreaders ALEXANDRA. Diese kann fast alle dem MIME
>Standard entsprechenden Postings korrekt darstellen, URLs werden mit dem
>bekannten kleinen `Zaps' verschönert und außerdems gibt's noch einige
>Detailverbesserungen.
Erik, grossartig.. aber waere es nicht dringend angebracht, regulaere
Ausdruecke oder zumindest Jokers fuer Killfiles zu unterstuetzen? Ich
weiss dass ihr an einer wesentlich maechtigeren Technologie arbeitet,
aber bis dahin wuerde Alexandra das Net of the Million Lies wenigstens
_etwas_ lesbarer machen.
ObCato: Cartha^H^H^H^H^H^H wir benoetigen ein verteiltes kooperatives
Filtersystem.
Danke fuer Alexandra, Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.."
// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
Date: 20 Oct 1998 12:42:44 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
Message-ID: <70i0g4$aik17@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <35F90CC4.831E6C55@itc.rwth-aachen.de> <6tcfc5$8lm@ip.ip.cubenet.de> <6tgdc2$r0d$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <6tl714$dvk@ip.ip.cubenet.de> <70ifsg$9vq$1@ns.munich.object-factory.com>
Bernhard Scholz,Obejct Factory, Inselkammerstr. 4, Unterhaching
(scholz@munich.object-factory.com) wrote:
: Dazu noch folgendes:
:
: Ich habe hier ATAPI ZIP Laufwerke unter OS4.2. Die funktionieren
: auch prima, und werden --- man hoere und staune --- vom EIDE Treiber
: als SCSI Laufwerk gemounted! Es scheint, als ob NeXT hier irgendeine
: Magic vollbracht hat.
Laeuft ueber den 'generischen' SCSI-Treiber (sg'n'), der sich entweder
an einen echten SCSI-Controller bindet oder an (E)IDE (Pseude-SCSI).
:
: Problem ist nur: ich brauch wohl noch einen Disktabeintrag, da
: sich die Diskette nicht auf NeXT umformatieren lassen sondern nur
: als DOS Disketten verwendet werden koennen.
Das geht (vermutlich) auch ohne (Extrapolation von SyQuest/Nomai
Laufwerken): Das Problem scheint zu sein, dass sich NS/OS 'nicht
traut', eine FDISK-Partitionsstruktrur unter NeXT (FFS) - Dateisystem
'plattzumachen'. Die MacOS-Komponente ist da von ganz anderem Kaliber :-).
Der Weg: Einmal als Apple-Medium (zwischen-)formattieren lassen, dann
als NeXT-Medium, voila, ganz ohne 'disktab'-Eintrag.
Aber Achtung: Wenn 'Bad Spots' durch das (z.B. DOS-)Filesystem
'versteckt' werden, anstatt 'weggemappt' bzw. 'soft-ersetzt' zu sein,
erkennt das der oben beschriebene Vorgang nicht und die 'defekten'
Sektoren werden freigesetzt. Dagegen hilft jedoch auch kein 'disktab'-
Eintrag, sondern hoechstens ein 'low level'-Format.
[Wenn sich die Hersteller doch nur angewoehnen koennten, Ihre Medien
'richtig' low-level zu formatieren oder fehlerfrei zu machen! Mit
dem Filesystem-Formatieren wird dann soviel Schindluder getreiben ...]
:
: Aber interessant finde ich diese IDE -> SCSI Konvertierung schon ...
S.o. und die Verwendung 'generischer Kommandos'.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
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From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
Message-ID: <F18IAw.C3@vergil.ping.de>
Sender: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Organization: Black Box - NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
References: <F15tIt.MJ0@tallawe.lahn.de>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:13:43 GMT
In article <F15tIt.MJ0@tallawe.lahn.de> cla_sch@tallawe_lahn_de (Claus
Schneeberger) writes:
> In <70ifsg$9vq$1@ns.munich.object-factory.com> Bernhard
> Scholz,Obejct Factory, Inselkammerstr. 4, Unterhaching wrote:
> > Problem ist nur: ich brauch wohl noch einen Disktabeintrag,
> da
> > sich die Diskette nicht auf NeXT umformatieren lassen
> sondern nur
> > als DOS Disketten verwendet werden koennen.
>
> Bei meinem Syquest Laufwerk mu te ich lediglich die Partition
> l schen und schon wurde das Medium von NeXT als neu erkannt
> und konnte formatiert werden. M glicherweise funktioniert das
> ja mit dem ZIP auch?
>
> Tata, Claus
>
> --
> +---+===================
> |\ /| Claus Schneeberger
> | X | 63674 Altenstadt
> |/ \| clasch@writeme.com
> +---+ clasch@altavista.net
>
was bei mir geholfen hat war
einmal als Apple-Disk formatieren,
danach als NEXT.
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From: ernst42@usa.net (Ernst K. Locker)
Subject: Re: Maus loeten
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Organization: Software Engineering
References: <1998Sep30.122520.20067@boba.rhein-main.de> <6v9tgg$krp$2@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <6vaarj$s1e$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <3619D0D1.2474@REMOVETHISsubito.de> <70hvn4$p5p$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:35:22 GMT
In article <70hvn4$p5p$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>, thor@cs.tu-berlin.de (Thorsten Albrecht) wrote:
>Richard Scholz <richard@REMOVETHISsubito.de> writes:
>>Allerdings, kriegt man Amigamäuse heutzutage überhaupt noch ?
>
>Jupp.
>Eine schwarze (!) Maus mit 560 dpi (!!!) gibt es in einem Amiga-Laden
>in Berlin:
Lassen die sich ohne Loeten an einen non-ADB NeXT anschliessen ?
--
Ernst K. Locker
From: Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F6rnenburg?= <erik@object-factory.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Neue Version von ALEXANDRA
Date: 23 Oct 1998 16:37:41 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
> [...]
> Erik, grossartig.. aber waere es nicht dringend angebracht, regulaere
> Ausdruecke oder zumindest Jokers fuer Killfiles zu unterstuetzen? Ich
> weiss dass ihr an einer wesentlich maechtigeren Technologie arbeitet,
> aber bis dahin wuerde Alexandra das Net of the Million Lies wenigstens
> _etwas_ lesbarer machen.
Sorry, aber dies ist jetzt (minus einiger Bugfixes vielleicht) die
allerletzte Version von ALEXANDRA für NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. Die Arbeit in dem
alten Code ist einfach zu zeitaufwendig und macht auch keinen besonderen
Spaß. Eingentlich sollte es diese Version gar nicht geben, aber nachdem
abzusehen war, daß MacOS X noch eine Weile auf sich warten lassen wird und
wir auch noch weit von einem stabilen Programm entfernt sind, wollten wir
wenigstens die allernötigsten Features in die alte Version einbauen.
> ObCato: Cartha^H^H^H^H^H^H wir benoetigen ein verteiltes kooperatives
> Filtersystem.
Ist in Arbeit...
erik
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From: Nils Hott <soz96hxw@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 CD / Lizenzfrage
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 03:44:11 +0100
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In den entsprechenden amerikanischen Gruppen fangen bei diesen threads
meist Kriege an, vielleicht laeuft das hier ja etwas objektiver.
Ich habe vor einiger Zeit eine Color Turbo station gekauft. Auf der
Festplatte ist NS3.3 installiert und als CD habe ich noch OS4.1 dazu
bekommen. Da ich es nicht geschafft habe, die Festplatte in eine
Imagedatei zu kopieren (Toast mag die Blockgroesse nicht), suche ich eine
Kopie von NS3.3.
Jetzt kommt der brisante Teil: ich habe mit der station auch die Lizenz
fuer das Betriebssystem erworben. Ist es demnach rechtens, wenn mir
jemand, der eine Original-CD besitzt, eine Kopie brennt?
Das wuerde ich gerne wissen, bevor ich offen danach frage.
Falls mir jemand eine Software organisieren kann, mit der ich die HD auf
CD bannen kann, soll mir das auch recht sein (obwohl mir eine
Installations-CD eben doch lieber waere).
Und wenn wir schon dabei sind, hat vielleicht jemand einen Satz
Handbuecher zu NS abzugeben?
Bin gespannt auf eure Antworten. Auf bald, Nils :-)
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Dreimal werden wir noch wach..
Date: 26 Oct 1998 10:55:21 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <711kep$g5k$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
> Christian Neuss wrote:
>> .... heissa, dann ist..
>>
>> aeh..
>> Thanksgiving?
>>
>> oder so.
>
>Und das weißt Du..woher? Vom Weihnachtsmann? :-)
Naja, wie du sicher weisst spiele ich mit dem Osterhasen
hin und wieder eine gepflegte Partie Billiard. Ich muss
allerdings gestehen, dass er in der letzten Zeit, naja,
irgendwie seltsam drauf ist. Er arbeitet wohl an einer
Website, die aufgrund langlaufender Prozesse im Backend auf
Multithreading angewiesen ist, um akzeptable Antwortzeiten
zu gewaehrleisten. Die muss natuerlich rechtzeitig zur
Adventszeit fertig sein, und irgendetwas scheint ihm da
grosse Sorgen zu bereiten. Hmm....
Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.."
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 CD / Lizenzfrage
Date: 25 Oct 1998 14:00:00 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <70vat0$n6b$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981025023423.8398A-100000@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de>
Nils Hott <soz96hxw@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
>In den entsprechenden amerikanischen Gruppen fangen bei diesen threads
>meist Kriege an, vielleicht laeuft das hier ja etwas objektiver.
>
>Ich habe vor einiger Zeit eine Color Turbo station gekauft. Auf der
>Festplatte ist NS3.3 installiert und als CD habe ich noch OS4.1 dazu
>bekommen. Da ich es nicht geschafft habe, die Festplatte in eine
>Imagedatei zu kopieren (Toast mag die Blockgroesse nicht), suche ich eine
>Kopie von NS3.3.
>
>Jetzt kommt der brisante Teil: ich habe mit der station auch die Lizenz
>fuer das Betriebssystem erworben. Ist es demnach rechtens, wenn mir
>jemand, der eine Original-CD besitzt, eine Kopie brennt?
Zunaechst, ich bin kein Anwalt, this is not legal advise, yadda yadda.
Nach allem was ich weiss, ist es in Deutschland immer noch nicht zur
Gaenze geklaert, ob gebrauchte Software zwischen Privatpersonen
verkauft werden kann, es gibt wiederspruechliche Auffassungen, ob
Software eine Sache ist (die man verkaufen koennte) oder aber ob
ein Nutzungsvertrag zwischen Hersteller und Kunde zustande kommt.
Noch interessanter ist es im Fall Nextstep, da die schwarze Hardware
damals mit dem OS gebundlet verkauft wurde. Allerdings kann ich mich
nicht erinnern, dass das fuer 3.3 auch galt, oder ob 3.3 erschien,
als schwarze Hardware schon nicht mehr hergestellt wurde. Wir haben
damals einige der letzten Maschinen gekauft, und das Betriebssystem
war, wenn ich mich recht entsinne, Version 3.2 oder 3.1.
Die Frage ist also, ob du eine legale Lizenz fuer 3.3 erworben hast.
Am sichersten ist es, wenn du eine gebrauchte Lizenz samt CD kaufst,
die duerfte nicht sehr teuer kommen.
Eine bootbare CD zu brennen duerfte aufwendig werden. Vielleicht ist
der einfachste Weg fuer dich, eine zweite Festplatte zu kaufen (die
dich lediglich 100-200 Mark kosten wird) und mit BuildDisk dein
System zu duplizieren. Spart dich viel Zeit, und das ist ja letzten
Endes auch Geld.
HTH, Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.."
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Dreimal werden wir noch wach..
Date: 25 Oct 1998 14:03:25 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <70vb3d$n6b$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
... heissa, dann ist..
aeh..
Thanksgiving?
oder so.
Chris
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// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:29:09 +0100
From: McCheat- Internetstriker <InternetStrike@gmx.net>
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Subject: Internetstreik gegen die hohen Telekom Ortsgebuehren am 1. 11. 98
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Weitergeleitete Nachricht :
Hi,
Sie sind die hohen Telefongebühren leid? Wir auch. Daher
wollen wir etwas unternehmen. Nach spanischem Vorbild wollen
wir erreichen, dass am 1.11.1998 möglichst viele private
Nutzer das Internet meiden, um ein Zeichen zu setzen.
Was hat uns als Internetnutzer die Privatisierung bis jetzt
gebracht? Außer einer Preiserhöhung 1996 gar nichts. Jetzt
muß etwas passieren. Die Telekom versucht immer noch, sich
mit "Pseudo- Rabatten" (siehe City Plus, 10+ o.ä.) aus der
Schußlinie zu bugsieren, aber in Wirklichkeit ändert sich
für uns nichts.
Die Idee eines Internet Streiks basiert auf einem
erfolgreichen Streik in Spanien. Dort haben die User einen
Rabatt erreicht, indem sie 24 Stunden auf das Internet
verzichteten. Und zwar einen deutlich merkbaren, nämlich bis
zu 60%.
Daher rufen wir hiermit jeden dazu auf, in der Zeit von 0.00
Uhr am 1.11.1998 bis um 0.00 am 2.11.1998 auf die Nutzung
des Internets zu verzichten.
USER GEGEN WUCHER, eine Initiative des DarkBreed e.V.
Mehr dazu unter http://www.gamespy.de/internetstreik und/oder
http://www.internetstreik.de
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
das Streik-Team des DarkBreed e.V.
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:42:37 +0100
From: McCheat- Internetstriker <InternetStrike@gmx.net>
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Subject: Internetstreik gegen die hohen Telekom Ortsgebuehren am 1. 11. 98
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Weitergeleitete Nachricht :
Hi,
Sie sind die hohen Telefongebühren leid? Wir auch. Daher
wollen wir etwas unternehmen. Nach spanischem Vorbild wollen
wir erreichen, dass am 1.11.1998 möglichst viele private
Nutzer das Internet meiden, um ein Zeichen zu setzen.
Was hat uns als Internetnutzer die Privatisierung bis jetzt
gebracht? Außer einer Preiserhöhung 1996 gar nichts. Jetzt
muß etwas passieren. Die Telekom versucht immer noch, sich
mit "Pseudo- Rabatten" (siehe City Plus, 10+ o.ä.) aus der
Schußlinie zu bugsieren, aber in Wirklichkeit ändert sich
für uns nichts.
Die Idee eines Internet Streiks basiert auf einem
erfolgreichen Streik in Spanien. Dort haben die User einen
Rabatt erreicht, indem sie 24 Stunden auf das Internet
verzichteten. Und zwar einen deutlich merkbaren, nämlich bis
zu 60%.
Daher rufen wir hiermit jeden dazu auf, in der Zeit von 0.00
Uhr am 1.11.1998 bis um 0.00 am 2.11.1998 auf die Nutzung
des Internets zu verzichten.
USER GEGEN WUCHER, eine Initiative des DarkBreed e.V.
Mehr dazu unter http://www.gamespy.de/internetstreik
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
das Streik-Team des DarkBreed e.V.
From: holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Dreimal werden wir noch wach..
Date: 25 Oct 1998 16:58:16 GMT
Organization: The secret circle of the NSRC
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Christian Neuss wrote:
> .... heissa, dann ist..
>
> aeh..
> Thanksgiving?
>
> oder so.
Und das weißt Du..woher? Vom Weihnachtsmann? :-)
Holger
From: tis.adm@t-online.de (Günter Westphal)
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Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
Date: 23 Oct 1998 08:55:28 GMT
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Bernhard Scholz,Obejct Factory, Inselkammerstr. 4, Unterhaching schrieb:
> Dazu noch folgendes:
>
> Ich habe hier ATAPI ZIP Laufwerke unter OS4.2. Die funktionieren
> auch prima, und werden --- man hoere und staune --- vom EIDE Treiber
> als SCSI Laufwerk gemounted! Es scheint, als ob NeXT hier irgendeine
> Magic vollbracht hat.
>
> Problem ist nur: ich brauch wohl noch einen Disktabeintrag, da
> sich die Diskette nicht auf NeXT umformatieren lassen sondern nur
> als DOS Disketten verwendet werden koennen.
>
> Aber interessant finde ich diese IDE -> SCSI Konvertierung schon ...
>
> Viele Gruesse,
>
> Bernhard.
Hallo !
Ich hatte das gleiche Problem mit meinem SCSI-Zip 100 Laufwerk und habe
daraufhin mal beim Apple Support nachgehakt. Zur"uckzuf"uhren sei das
Problem auf einen Firmware-Bug im Zip-Laufwerk (bei "alteren Firmware-
Versionen irgendwo zwischen 1.9 und 2.0). Beheben l"a"st er sich mit
folgendem WorkAround.
(1) Put the disk in your Zip drive, and if Workspace Manager mounts it
do:
umount /zip-100
(2) Zero out the disk label. There are two possible ways:
(a) Use dd: dd if=/dev/rsd0a of=/dev/rsd3h bs=512 count=1
OR USE disk IN INTERACTIVE MODE
(b) disk /dev/rsd3a
disk> set
read or write buffer? write
offset? 0
length? 512
random, <constant>? 0
disk> write
starting block? 0
# sectors per transfer? 1
number of transfers? 1
sector increment? 1
random data? no
1024 bytes in 69 ms = 17066 bytes/s
(3) disk -h myhost -l mylabel -i /dev/rsd3a
(4) disk -e /dev/rsd3a
(5) Pop the disk back into the drive, and workspace will remount it for
you
(or just mount it by hand post step 3).
Ciao
G"unni
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter
Date: 25 Oct 1998 19:04:41 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <70vso9$24d$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
Hallo zusammen,
ich hatte eine Summary zum Thema WO-Gehaelter in DE versprochen.
Fuer mich unerwartet war nicht nur das Interesse (danke fuer die
Mails!) sondern auch das weit gefaecherte Ergebnis. Es scheint,
dass dieser Markt noch zu neu ist, als dass sich ein Regulativ
entwickelt haette, und entsprechend weit gestaffelt sind auch
die Gehaelter. Von 60 TDM bis zu 210 TDM ist alles vertreten,
natuerlich sind es hier eher die 'Himmelfahrtskommandos', bei
denen ungewoehnlich hohe Gehaelter gezahlt werden. Auch gilt
es zu bedenken, dass je nach Einsatzort unterschiedliche Kosten
fuer die Lebenshaltung entstehen, auch danach muss man die
Gehaelter relativieren.
Tja, warten wir ab, ob und wann 4.0 erscheint, das koennte alles
noch ganz spannend werden. :-)
Gruesse, Chris
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Hi,
In <70vso9$24d$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> Hallo zusammen,
> ...
> die Gehaelter. Von 60 TDM bis zu 210 TDM ist alles vertreten,
Könntest Du das noch nach Angestellten/Freiberuflern ordnen, falls möglich ?
Gruß und Dank Olaf
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NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
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Subject: Re: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter
Date: 26 Oct 1998 09:54:47 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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ergo@camelot.in-berlin.de (Olaf Foellinger) wrote:
>Hi,
>In <70vso9$24d$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
>> Hallo zusammen,
>> ...
>> die Gehaelter. Von 60 TDM bis zu 210 TDM ist alles vertreten,
>Könntest Du das noch nach Angestellten/Freiberuflern ordnen, falls möglich ?
Das geht sehr einfach :-). Angestellte. Als Freiberufler nimmst du
ueblicherweise einen Tagessatz, der je nach deiner Kompetenz und dem
Projekt bei 1200 bis 2000 DM liegt. Ein vertraglich vereinbarter
Manntag hat normalerweise mehr als 7,7 Stunden :-), also Vorsicht
beim Hochrechnen. Auch kann man die Tarife nicht direkt mit einem
Gehalt vergleichen, du musst beruecksichtigen, dass du keine Renten-
und Sozialversicherung hast, und auch deine Krankenkassenbeitraege
komplett selber zahlst. Dazu kommt, dass du Saisonarbeiter bist,
nur schwer planen kannst, und typischerweise enge Termine hast,
das nur zur Warnung. Bei laenger laufenden Projekten geht man mit
dem Tagessatz typischerweise runter, aber das ist Verhandlungssache.
Gruesse, Chris
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// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
Date: 26 Oct 1998 10:10:52 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
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Günter Westphal (tis.adm@t-online.de) wrote:
:
:
: Bernhard Scholz,Obejct Factory, Inselkammerstr. 4, Unterhaching schrieb:
:
: > Dazu noch folgendes:
: >[...]
: >
: > Bernhard.
:
: Hallo !
:
: Ich hatte das gleiche Problem mit meinem SCSI-Zip 100 Laufwerk und habe
: daraufhin mal beim Apple Support nachgehakt. Zur"uckzuf"uhren sei das
: Problem auf einen Firmware-Bug im Zip-Laufwerk (bei "alteren Firmware-
: Versionen irgendwo zwischen 1.9 und 2.0). Beheben l"a"st er sich mit
: folgendem WorkAround.
: [...]
Hallo!
Also vielen Dank fuer die Nachfrage (beim Apple Support), aber die Antwort
halte ich fuer a) "fehlerhaft" und b) fuer typisch fuer das was so aus Apple
"herausgebracht" wird, wenn sie sich mit NeXT-Angelegenheiten befassen
(muessen).
Falls es ein Fehler in der Firmware des ZIP-Laufwerks ist, ist er offen-
sichtlich in *allen* Varianten (SCSI, EIDE), genauso beim JAZ-Laufwerk
(ok, beide IOMEGA!), sowie in den SCSI-Varianten von SyQuests 270MB
Laufwerk (3270) und Nomais ("kompatiblen Nachbauten") MCD 540 und
750, kurz allem, was mir unter NS/OS an magnetischen Wechselplatten-
laufwerken in die Finger gekommen ist und "DOS" "FDISK-Partionen" kennt.
Ein bisschen viel fuer alle diese Laufwerke, eine fehlerhafte Firmware
zu haben, die dann auch noch nicht einmal (mit der Zeit) behoben wird.
Wahrscheinlicher erscheint mir, dass die NS/OS-Software eine "Eigenschaft"
hat, die es ihr verbietet, Partitionsformatierung fuer NeXT-Filesysteme
"platt zu machen", evtl., da sie auf Harddisks ggf. "selbst" in solchen
Partionen lebt. Die MacOS-Formatierung scheint diese "Bedenken" nicht zu
haben; Macs akzeptieren (Spekulation!) vermutlich keine FDISK-Partitionen
fuer Medien, die ein MacOS (HFS) Dateisystem erhalten sollen.
Kurz: Nach meiner Vermutung liegt der Fehler hier eher bei (nun) Apple!
Egal, Umformatieren auf "Mac", dann "NeXT" sollte es tun (- mit dem Caveat
bzgl. "defekter" Sektoren (s. originales Posting)).
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
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Subject: Re: Dreimal werden wir noch wach..
Date: 26 Oct 1998 13:04:38 GMT
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Christian Neuss wrote:
> holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
> > Christian Neuss wrote:
> >> .... heissa, dann ist..
> >>
> >> aeh..
> >> Thanksgiving?
> >>
> >> oder so.
> >
> >Und das weißt Du..woher? Vom Weihnachtsmann? :-)
>
> Naja, wie du sicher weisst spiele ich mit dem Osterhasen
> hin und wieder eine gepflegte Partie Billiard. Ich muss
Von Hasen wußte ich, aber vom Osterhasen..
> allerdings gestehen, dass er in der letzten Zeit, naja,
> irgendwie seltsam drauf ist. Er arbeitet wohl an einer
> Website, die aufgrund langlaufender Prozesse im Backend auf
> Multithreading angewiesen ist, um akzeptable Antwortzeiten
> zu gewaehrleisten. Die muss natuerlich rechtzeitig zur
> Adventszeit fertig sein, und irgendetwas scheint ihm da
> grosse Sorgen zu bereiten. Hmm....
Tja..hätte er doch mal jemanden gefragt, der sich damit auskennt!
Wir stehen ja schließlich in den..äh..Yellow Pages.. *<:-)
hh
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
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Subject: Re: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:15:06 GMT
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In <70vso9$24d$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> die Gehaelter. Von 60 TDM bis zu 210 TDM ist alles vertreten,
> natuerlich sind es hier eher die 'Himmelfahrtskommandos', bei
> denen ungewoehnlich hohe Gehaelter gezahlt werden. Auch gilt
> es zu bedenken, dass je nach Einsatzort unterschiedliche Kosten
> fuer die Lebenshaltung entstehen, auch danach muss man die
> Gehaelter relativieren.
>
Ich schaetze eher mal, bei 60K handelt es sich um einen braven Angestellten,
der Ueberstunden fuer umsonst macht, bei 210K um Freiberufler. Zumindest
deckt sich das mit meinen Beobachtungen im EDV-Markt .
PS: Arbeitet wirklich noch jemand fuer 60K ?
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter
Date: 26 Oct 1998 18:16:44 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke) wrote:
>Ich schaetze eher mal, bei 60K handelt es sich um einen braven Angestellten,
>der Ueberstunden fuer umsonst macht, bei 210K um Freiberufler. Zumindest
>deckt sich das mit meinen Beobachtungen im EDV-Markt .
Es gibt tatsaechlich regulaere Stellen fuer dieses Jahresgehalt.
Duerfte sich um lebensverkuerzende - da in hohem Masse Stress
verursachende - Kamikazeprojekte mit staendigen Ueberstunden
handeln, bei denen man sich regelmaessig anschreien laesst und
zweimal die Woche nach London fliegen muss.
Aber wer's braucht :-) ich hab noch irgendwo die Adresse, bei
Bedarf bitte Mehl an mich.
>PS: Arbeitet wirklich noch jemand fuer 60K ?
Definitiv. Aber warum eigentlich nicht. Wenn die Umgebung wirklich
hundert Prozent stimmt, man nette Kollegen/Vorgesetzte hat, genug
Zeit (1) da ist, etwas dazu zu lernen, dann kann ein 60K Job fuer
einen Berufsanfaenger trotzdem ganz attraktiv sein.
Gruesse, Chris
(1) und ueberhaupt, Zeit..
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// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Dreimal werden wir noch wach..
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:10:10 +0100
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
> ... heissa, dann ist..
> aeh..
> Thanksgiving?
Du spielst auf das Gerücht an Apple werde MacOS X "before
Thanksgiving" ausliefern? Oder weißt Du mehr?
Die Amerikaner feiern ihr Thanksgiving am ... ...
Donnerstag, 26 November 1998, glaube ich!?
Ciao
Dieter
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Dreimal werden wir noch wach..
Date: 27 Oct 1998 11:38:29 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn) wrote:
>Du spielst auf das Gerücht an Apple werde MacOS X "before
>Thanksgiving" ausliefern? Oder weißt Du mehr?
>
>Die Amerikaner feiern ihr Thanksgiving am ... ...
>Donnerstag, 26 November 1998, glaube ich!?
Yip.. Thanksgiving ist immer am letzten Donnerstag im November.
Chris
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
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Date: 27 Oct 1998 07:48:07 GMT
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Hallo,
ich beziehe meine Mals per uucp und lasse sie dann von procmail
auf verschiedene Briefkästen verteilen. Gerade bei Mailinglisten
ist das sehr hilfreich.
Nun kommen die Mails aber per uucp nicht in der Reihenfolge bei
mir an, wie sie von der Mailingliste verschickt wurden.
Gibt es eine Möglichkeit (vielleicht mit procmail) die Mails von
einer Mailingliste in chronologischer Reihenfolge in einen Briefkasten
einsortieren zu lassen?
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From: jensb@mevis.de (Jens Breitenborn)
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Subject: JOB:Radiologische Software auf Basis YellowBox
Date: 27 Oct 1998 16:36:17 GMT
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Wir entwickeln Software fuer die Radiologie, die den Radiologen durch
neuartige Bildverarbeitungs- und Visualisierungs-Verfahren bei der
Diagnose und Befundung unterstuetzen soll.
In einem neuen Projekt, in dem es zunaechst um 4-dimensionale
MR-Aufnahmen der weiblichen Brust geht (6 Volumendatensaetze ueber
die Zeit / mit Kontrastmittel), wollen wir auf YellowBox aufsetzen.
Wir haben bereits entsprechende Kompetenz im Hause und
wollen diese nun durch zwei Informatiker mit YellowBox-
bzw. OpenStep-Kenntnissen erweitern.
Wer sich angesprochen fuehlt und darueberhinaus Interesse hat in einem
stark wachsenden Forschungsinstitut (MeVis) bei der Entwicklung
neuartiger Software im Bereich der Radiologie auf Basis der
YellowBox mitzuwirken, der melde sich bitte direkt bei
Jens Breitenborn
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: TREFFEN: Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) am 2. November 1998
Message-ID: <1998Oct27.215817.9132@aurora.in-berlin.de>
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Organization: INDIVIDUAL NETWORK Berlin
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:58:17 GMT
EINLADUNG ZUM TREFFEN DER BERLINER NeXT USER GROUP (BeNG)
*********************************************************
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) trifft sich am
Montag, den 2. November 1998, um 20.00 Uhr,
in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e. V.,
Kiautschoustrasse 18, 13353 Berlin,
wobei folgende Themen geplant sind:
DAS JAHR-2000-PROBLEM
In 14 Monaten springt der Jahreszaehler aller Computer von
1999 auf 2000. Da viele Rechner nur mit zwei Datumsstellen
arbeiten, kann dies zu fatalen Fehlern fuehren. Wie NEXTSTEP,
OPENSTEP und Mac OS auf dieses Problem vorbereitet sind,
soll naeher betrachtet werden.
SOFTWARE, SOFTWARE, SOFTWARE
Selbst wenn NEXTSTEP und OPENSTEP zum "alten Eisen" gehoeren und
Mac OS X Server und die Yellow Box fuer Windows immer noch
nicht auf dem Markt sind, waechst der Softwaremarkt - zumindest
im nicht-kommerziellen Bereich - stetig an. Eine kleine
Uebersicht von Neuerscheinungen und neuen Versionen soll auf
diesem Treffen kurz vorgestellt werden.
NEUES VON APPLE
Auch wenn Mac OS X Server vermutlich nicht in Duesseldorf auf
der MacWorld praesentiert wird, so wird es doch von Apple auf
einem Technologietag in Berlin am 9. November vorgestellt;
auch der iMac wird eine zentrale Rolle spielen.
Das Treffen steht allen NEXTSTEP und OPENSTEP- bzw. Rhapsody-
Interessierten offen, auch Einsteigern oder Leuten, die erst einmal
mehr ueber NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP und Rhapsody bzw. MacOS X, dem neuen
Betriebsssystem von Apple, erfahren wollen.
Wir treffen uns in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e.V.
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin (Wedding)
von 20.00 bis ca. 22.00 Uhr. Die Raeume selbst befinden sich im
Erdgeschoss.
WIE KOMMT MAN HIN
Da die Kiautschoustrasse in einem Wohngebiet liegt und es
erfahrungsgemaess kaum freie Parkplaetze in der Naehe gibt,
empfehlen wir die Anfahrt mit dem Fahrrad oder mit oeffentlichen
Verkehrsmitteln.
Sie erreichen uns am besten ueber folgende Linien:
U-BAHN U 9 bis U-Bahnhof Amrumer Strasse
U 6 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
BUS 248 bis Kiautschoustrasse
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Die behindertengerechten Busse der Linie 248 halten fast vor der Tuer
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entsprechenden Kartenausschnitt auf dem Server des StadtINFO-Verlags
werfen. Unter der URL http://www.beng.org/meeting.html ist eine
Umgebungskarte der Kiautschoustrasse abgebildet, auf der die
Vereinsraeume des IN-Berlin e. V. durch einen roten Kreis markiert
sind.
DAS UEBERNAECHSTE TREFFEN
Das darauffolgende Treffen findet am 7. Dezember 1998 statt. Bisher
ist nichts geplant.
UEBER BeNG
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) existiert seit 1990 und ist
ein loser Zusammenschluss von NeXT-Interessierten.
Wir betreiben zwei Mailinglisten fuer Ankuendigungen bzw. fuer
Diskussionen rund um NeXT/Apple-Technologien und einen FTP-Server
fuer NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Programme (ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT).
Unser Rhapsody-FTP-Server (ftp://ftp.beng.org) befindet sich noch
im Aufbau. Naehere Informationen erhalten sie, indem Sie eine E-Mail
an about@beng.org schicken.
Wir treffen uns in der Regel am ersten Montag im Monat um 20.00 Uhr.
Wenn dieser Tag ein Feiertag ist, findet das Treffen in der
darauffolgenden Woche statt. Oft werden auch Vortraege gehalten oder
Vorfuehrungen arrangiert.
Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG)
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 39 03 93 03
Fax +49 30 / 39 03 93 04
WWW http://www.beng.org
E-Mail info@beng.org
UEBER IN-BERLIN
Das Individual Network Berlin (IN-Berlin) bietet seit 1990
Internet-Zugang zur privaten Nutzung an. IN-Berlin arbeitet nicht
gewinnorientiert und ist seit 1996 ein eingetragener Verein, der
heute ueber seine 2 MBit/s-Anbindung mehr als 600 Teilnehmer mit
Internet-Konnektivitaet versorgt.
In den Vereinsraeumen des IN-Berlin e.V. in Berlin-Wedding finden
regelmaessig Usertreffen, Schulungen und Veranstaltungen befreundeter
Gruppen, z. B. der Berliner LINUX-Usergruppe (BeLUG) oder der Berliner
NeXT User Group (BeNG), statt.
Info-Kontakt IN-Berlin e. V.
Kiautschoustr. 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 45 49 43 43
Fax +40 30 / 45 49 43 44
WWW http://www.in-berlin.de
E-Mail info@in-berlin.de
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter
Date: 27 Oct 1998 21:50:18 GMT
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <715f6q$i08$1@marsu.navigator.de>
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In <1998Oct25.201506.1282@news.online.de> Thomas F. Unke wrote:
> PS: Arbeitet wirklich noch jemand fuer 60K ?
Pro Monat? Gern! :-))
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From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Hilfe: Fehlgeschlagener Update von NS3.3 auf OS 4.2
Date: 28 Oct 1998 13:21:32 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <7175os$q46$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Hallo Leute,
nach dem Update auf einen Pentium 90 MHz von NS 3.3
auf OS 4.2 bootet der Rechner nicht mehr. Er bleibt
nach der Meldung
PnP: Plug and Play support enabled
stehen. Bei boot mit config=Default bleibt er an
der gleichen Stelle stehen. Die alte config-Datei
(config=/UpdatedFiles/usr/Devices/System.config_Old/Default)
findet er gar nicht. Weis jemand Rat? Was kann ich
tun? Selbst Bootversuche mit
"Boot Drivers"="EISABus PCIBus ..."
schlugen bisher fehl. Bin um jede Anregung dankbar
Ciao
Martin
From: "Christiano Blasi" <cblasi@altos.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Eine ganz eifache Frage?
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:22:27 +0100
Organization: Xlink Consulting GmbH Niederlassung Mitte (Wiesbaden)
Message-ID: <3637622f.0@altger.altos.de>
Hallo,
da ich per Zufall auf NextStep gestoßen bin, würde es mich sehr
interessieren, wo ich den NextStep erwerben kann??
By,
Chris.
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Hilfe: Fehlgeschlagener Update von NS3.3 auf OS 4.2
Date: 28 Oct 1998 15:31:52 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
Message-ID: <717dd8$8i41@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <7175os$q46$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Martin Oettle (martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de) wrote:
: Hallo Leute,
:
: nach dem Update auf einen Pentium 90 MHz von NS 3.3
: auf OS 4.2 bootet der Rechner nicht mehr. Er bleibt
: nach der Meldung
:
: PnP: Plug and Play support enabled
:
: stehen. Bei boot mit config=Default bleibt er an
: der gleichen Stelle stehen. Die alte config-Datei
: (config=/UpdatedFiles/usr/Devices/System.config_Old/Default)
: findet er gar nicht. Weis jemand Rat? Was kann ich
: tun? Selbst Bootversuche mit
:
: "Boot Drivers"="EISABus PCIBus ..."
:
: schlugen bisher fehl. Bin um jede Anregung dankbar
Eine "halbe" Hilfe (vielleicht kann jemand die "genauen"
Paramter (unten) nachsehen und posten, ich kann's hier nicht!):
Erst einmal das System (fuer Aenderungen) ans Laufen bekommen,
d.h. (notfalls) von der CD in den "Single-User"-Mode ("-s")
booten und die Platte "von Hand" "irgendwohin" (z.B. /mnt)
mounten.
Falls(!) PnP wirklich das Problem ist (das kann eigentlich
nur sein, wenn die NS 3.3 Version nie mit einem neu(er)en
EISA-Bus-Treiber ausgestattet wurde, da diese auch unter
NS 3.3 schon PnP unterstuetzten und das Problem dabei schon
haette auftreten muessen), dann nuetzt es nichts, in System.config
an "Boot Drivers" oder "Drivers" "herumzuspielen", sondern die
PnP-Unterstuetzung muss abgeschaltet werden.
Bei einem laufenden(!) System geschieht das durch Anwahl
des EISABus-Treibers und Anklicken der entsprechenden Box.
Nun ist herauszukriegen, was das macht. Vermutlich einen
Eintrag in die Instance0.table von (/private/Drivers/i386/)
EISABus.config. Diesen Eintrag, dessen Bezeichung ich leider
nicht weiss ("PnP" = "No"???), von Hand in der entsprechenden
Instance0.table (und/oder auch Default.table) des Systems
auf der Platte (/mnt/private/Drivers/i386/EISABus.config)
nachtragen und dann erneut probieren.
Wenn's wirklich ein PnP-Problem ist, hilft das zunaechst;
merkwuerdig finde ich's trotzdem, dass das System so frueh
an 'PnP' haengenbleiben soll. Wenn's beim Laden des Treibers
einer PnP-Karte passierte, ja dann ... Aber so?
Ist's nicht vielleicht eher das gefuerchtete 'Advanced Power
Management' (APM), das Probleme macht? Das liesse sich mit
einem einfachen Aendern von 'Yes' auf 'No' in der System.config
beheben.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: TREFFEN: Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) am 2. November 1998
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:05:45 +0100
Organization: INS - Informationstechnik, Netzwerke und Systeme Vertriebs-GmbH
Message-ID: <1dhlw9c.eprwlw1punhtsN@port24.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de>
References: <1998Oct27.215817.9132@aurora.in-berlin.de>
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3FA<6h<6{mB#L2c"b"IwU^zKIJtOcZA'Q0zNAo'~||$3[Ic[h
> EINLADUNG ZUM TREFFEN DER BERLINER NeXT USER GROUP (BeNG)
> DAS JAHR-2000-PROBLEM
> SOFTWARE, SOFTWARE, SOFTWARE
> Selbst wenn NEXTSTEP und OPENSTEP zum "alten Eisen" gehoeren und
> Mac OS X Server und die Yellow Box fuer Windows immer noch
> NEUES VON APPLE
> Auch wenn Mac OS X Server vermutlich nicht in Duesseldorf auf
> der MacWorld praesentiert wird, so wird es doch von Apple auf
Danke für die phantastische Anleitung "Wie kommt man hin!". Leider kann
ich es zeitlich nicht einrichten. Ich hoffe es wird jemand hier über das
Treffen berichten. Ich bin jetzt schon ganz kribbelig.
Ciao und Thanx!
Dieter
From: Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: PersonalINN
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
Message-ID: <udAbBeqA#GA.148@ntawwabp.compuserve.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:16:45 -0500
Hallo,
nachdem ich mich dazu entschlossen habe PersonalINN als
Offline-Reader zu installieren und dann die Nextstep
Configurationsdateien anzupassen bekomme ich auf der Konsole beim
Booten folgen Nachricht.
Starting innd.
.innd: ME cant GetConfigValue pathhost Error 0.
Weiß jemand was das zubedeuten hat und was ich jetzt tun muß um
das Problem zu beheben ?
Danke
Lutz
email:drjekylandmrhyde@csi.com (ASCI, MINE, NEXT)
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Hannover
Germany
Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (MIME, ASCII)
From: armin@devicen.de
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: egcs bauen mit OPENSTEP 4.2/Intel ?
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 03:24:40 +0100
Organization: DEUTSCHE MESSE AG
Message-ID: <armin-2910980324400001@grafix.devicen.de>
Kann mir jemand erklaeren, wie man den egcs 1.1b unter OPENSTEP 4.2/Intel
kompiliert bekommt? Irgendwo hatte ich mal gelesen, dass es jemand
geschafft haette, leider war aber keine Erlaeuterung dabei.
Unter NeXTstep 3.0/Moto habe ich damit keine Probleme.
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From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: single quotes in term.app?
Date: 29 Oct 1998 14:27:25 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
Message-ID: <719u0d$gd5$1@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de>
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Hallo,
kann mir jemand sagen, was ich machen muss, um in term.app single
quotes (`) einzugeben (z.b. um in der bash <kill -HUP `cat
/etc/ppp/ppp0.pid`> einzutippen?)
In anderen Programmen, z.B. TextEdit, funktioniert es einwandfrei.
Joerg
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: egcs bauen mit OPENSTEP 4.2/Intel ?
Date: 29 Oct 1998 14:37:50 GMT
Organization: the secret circle of the NSRC
Message-ID: <719uju$ncm$2@leonie.object-factory.com>
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armin@devicen.de wrote:
> Kann mir jemand erklaeren, wie man den egcs 1.1b unter OPENSTEP 4.2/Intel
> kompiliert bekommt? Irgendwo hatte ich mal gelesen, dass es jemand
> geschafft haette, leider war aber keine Erlaeuterung dabei.
Ich bin auch nicht sehr weit gekommen..mit -traditional-cpp kommt man
etwas weiter, aber irgendwo in stage2 gibt es Probleme mit den
architektur-abhängigen #includes, die nicht richtig bearbeitet werden.
Wenn Du (oder jemand anders) das geschafft hat, _bitte_ hier posten!
> Unter NeXTstep 3.0/Moto habe ich damit keine Probleme.
Ist irgendwie nicht so die Option.. :}
Holger
From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: WebObjects Demoversion?
Date: 29 Oct 1998 16:17:39 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
Message-ID: <71a4f3$r98$1@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de>
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Hallo,
angeblich gab es mal auf wofapps1.next.com eine Demoversion von
WebObjects. Da dieser Server aber offenbar momentan nicht (mehr?)
erreichbar ist, wuerde mich interessieren, ob die Demoversion auch
wo anders zu finden ist?
Joerg
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: single quotes in term.app?
Date: 29 Oct 1998 16:36:18 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <71a5i2$j60$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <719u0d$gd5$1@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de>
Joerg Kollmann <joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de> wrote:
: Hallo,
: kann mir jemand sagen, was ich machen muss, um in term.app single
: quotes (`) einzugeben (z.b. um in der bash <kill -HUP `cat
: /etc/ppp/ppp0.pid`> einzutippen?)
: In anderen Programmen, z.B. TextEdit, funktioniert es einwandfrei.
Vermutlich benutzt Du die deutsche Tastaturbelegung, also
liegt ' (singlequote) bzw. ` (single-backquote) auf
einer Tastenkombination mit Alt. Dann musst Du in den
Preferences unter VT100-Emulation 'Alternate generates
special characters' einstellen.
HTH
--
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kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 62843137
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PersonalINN
Date: 29 Oct 1998 16:40:23 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <71a5pn$6e5$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
> nachdem ich mich dazu entschlossen habe PersonalINN als
> Offline-Reader zu installieren und dann die Nextstep
> Configurationsdateien anzupassen bekomme ich auf der Konsole beim
> Booten folgen Nachricht.
> Starting innd.
> ..innd: ME cant GetConfigValue pathhost Error 0.
>
> Weiß jemand was das zubedeuten hat und was ich jetzt tun muß um
> das Problem zu beheben ?
Kann es sein, dass Dein Rechner nicht als Netzwerkrechner konfiguriert ist,
d.h., keinen Namen und keine Domain hat?
PersonalINN braucht zum Bilden der Message-IDs der einzelnen Nachrichten, die
Du postest, den Namen des Rechners, bei mir also z.B.
"tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de". Wenn Dein Rechner nun gar keinen solchen
Namen hat, streikt PersonalINN.
Ob Dein Rechner einen Hostnamen hat, kannst Du durch durch Eingeben von
"hostname" in eine Shell testen; als Antwort darf NICHT "localhost" kommen.
Die Domain muss in /etc/resolv.conf oder aber in NetInfo, Domain
locations/resolver, stehen.
Tschau
Uli
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From: "Thomas v. Mandel" <mandel@charon.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Externe HD?
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:32:32 +0100
Organization: MPIWG
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Laesst sich eine externe 4GB Platte problemlos an eine NexT anschliessen
oder gibt es dabei besondere Dinge zu beachten. Ich habe vor die Platte
nicht zu partitionieren. Geht das oder sind 4 GB zu groß. Für jeden
Hinweis dankbar.
gruss
thomas
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects Demoversion?
Date: 29 Oct 1998 17:30:31 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <71a8nn$a1v$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <71a4f3$r98$1@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de>
joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann) wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>angeblich gab es mal auf wofapps1.next.com eine Demoversion von
>WebObjects. Da dieser Server aber offenbar momentan nicht (mehr?)
>erreichbar ist, wuerde mich interessieren, ob die Demoversion auch
>wo anders zu finden ist?
Die Demoversion gibts schon lang nicht mehr, und waere auch *voellig*
out of date, mit WO hat sich zwischenzeitlich sehr viel getan. Am
besten du holst dir fuer 249 DM die akademische Version (oder gleich
fuer $99 in den USA, ist billiger).
Rgds, Chris
--
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// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
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Date: 29 Oct 1998 13:23:37 -0600
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From: "Sebastian Bähr" <sbaehr@rcs.urz.tu-dresden.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Nexttoyou?
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:17:50 +0100
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Hallo!
Tummelt sich hier ein Nexttoyou-verantwortlicher Mensch?
Ich warte auf meine neue Ausgabe schon seit dem 23. September, aber es
noch nichts da. Mails an den nexttoyou-Server kommen als unzustellbar
zurueck.
Meine letzte Ausgabe kam auch schon zu spaet, aber nur 14 Tage. Jetzt
sind es schon 5 Wochen. Da kommen mir letztlich doch Bedenken. Oder ist
die Zeitung vielleicht eingestellt worden?
SB
From: dmcger@aol.com (Dmcger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: V: NeXTstep, Software, Bücher
Date: 29 Oct 1998 21:43:45 GMT
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Hi Leute,
Zum Aufräumen meines Arbeitszimmers ist mir noch einiges an NeXT
Sachen im Weg. Deshalb möchte ich sie euch hier anbieten.
NeXTstep 3.0 User & Developer für schwarze Hardware
für 80,- DM
NeXTstep 3.1 User & Developer für schwarze Hardware
für 150,- DM
NeXTstep 3.1 User & Developer für Intel
für 180,- DM
NeXTstep 3.2 User & Developer für Intel
für 280,- DM
---
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für 40,- DM
NeXTstep Development Tools an Techniques (Addison Wesley)
für 40,- DM
NeXTstep General Reference Volume 1 (Addison Wesley)
für 40,- DM
---
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für 90,- DM
NeXT nonADB Keyboard deutsch, neu
für 90,- DM
---
Adobe Illustrator
für 120,- DM
Lotus Improv - Tabellenkalkulation (Noch Eingeschweisst)
für 120,- DM
Word Perfect - Textverarbeitung (Noch Eingeschweisst, Deutsch)
für 100,- DM
Viva! (Dart) - komplettes Bürosystem
für 100,- DM
VarioData (YumYum/Dart) - Geniale Datenbank Lösung
für 80,- DM
Appsoft Draw - Vektor Zeichenprogramm
für 80,- DM
Mathematica (Wolfram Research)
für 80,- DM
Mathematica Handbücher orig. Wolfram Research für NeXT
für 80,- DM
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Gruss Micha
From: "news-schule" <gast3@anne.goerlitz.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Tex Probleme
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:37:55 +0100
Organization: DFN-Verein
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oje
Thomas v. Mandel schrieb in Nachricht ...
>Hallo,
>
>seit einigen Tagen besitze ich nun auch eine NexTstation (Mono, System 3.3
>User vorinstalliert) und musste feststellen, dass sich meine tex-files mit
>TexView weder ansehen noch compilieren lassen. Entweder bekommen ich die
>Meldung command not found beim Versuch einen einfachen tex-file zu
>compilieren oder aber kryptische Meldungen über fehlende Metafonts, wenn
ich
>eine dvi öffnen will.
>Auch mitgelieferte tex bzw. dvi's lassen sich nicht ansehen/compilieren.
Wer
>weiss rat
>
>gruss
>thomas
From: "news-schule" <gast3@anne.goerlitz.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Tex Probleme
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:38:21 +0100
Organization: DFN-Verein
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dddfffgghnhhhh
Thomas v. Mandel schrieb in Nachricht ...
>Hallo,
>
>seit einigen Tagen besitze ich nun auch eine NexTstation (Mono, System 3.3
>User vorinstalliert) und musste feststellen, dass sich meine tex-files mit
>TexView weder ansehen noch compilieren lassen. Entweder bekommen ich die
>Meldung command not found beim Versuch einen einfachen tex-file zu
>compilieren oder aber kryptische Meldungen über fehlende Metafonts, wenn
ich
>eine dvi öffnen will.
>Auch mitgelieferte tex bzw. dvi's lassen sich nicht ansehen/compilieren.
Wer
>weiss rat
>
>gruss
>thomas
From: "news-schule" <gast3@anne.goerlitz.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Tex Probleme
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:38:52 +0100
Organization: DFN-Verein
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wweeerr
Thomas v. Mandel schrieb in Nachricht ...
>Hallo,
>
>seit einigen Tagen besitze ich nun auch eine NexTstation (Mono, System 3.3
>User vorinstalliert) und musste feststellen, dass sich meine tex-files mit
>TexView weder ansehen noch compilieren lassen. Entweder bekommen ich die
>Meldung command not found beim Versuch einen einfachen tex-file zu
>compilieren oder aber kryptische Meldungen über fehlende Metafonts, wenn
ich
>eine dvi öffnen will.
>Auch mitgelieferte tex bzw. dvi's lassen sich nicht ansehen/compilieren.
Wer
>weiss rat
>
>gruss
>thomas
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Nexttoyou?
Date: 30 Oct 1998 13:09:51 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Sebastian Bähr <sbaehr@rcs.urz.tu-dresden.de> wrote:
: Hallo!
: Tummelt sich hier ein Nexttoyou-verantwortlicher Mensch?
: Ich warte auf meine neue Ausgabe schon seit dem 23. September, aber es
: noch nichts da. Mails an den nexttoyou-Server kommen als unzustellbar
: zurueck.
: Meine letzte Ausgabe kam auch schon zu spaet, aber nur 14 Tage. Jetzt
: sind es schon 5 Wochen. Da kommen mir letztlich doch Bedenken. Oder ist
: die Zeitung vielleicht eingestellt worden?
Hi,
die NTY existiert noch, nur ist leider der Provider unserer
Domain kurzentschlossen nach Australien ausgewandert. Die
Umstellung auf einen anderen Provider geht leider nicht so
schnell.
Aufgrund anderer Schwierigkeiten hat sich dann auch noch die Herstellung
der aktuellen Ausgabe verzoegert. Sorry.
Es wird jetzt wirklich nicht mehr lange dauern, bis die 3'98 kommt.
Sie wird gerade gedruckt.
--
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kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 62843137
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
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Subject: FS:NEXT TURBO COLOR AND TURBO CUBE SYSTEMS
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 21:11:49 GMT
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We have a limited amount of Next hardware available at this time.
Now is the time to get that machine before it is too late.
Below are some systems we still have available:
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Keyboard
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Price each $249.00
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16mb RAM
400mb HD
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Keyboard
Mouse
Monitor cable
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Price each $395.00
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540mb HD
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Keyboard
Mouse
Monitor cable
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Price each $1495.00
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Price each $1995.00
We accept VISA, MC and AMEX
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From: no@spam.please
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Treffen: NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP User Group Stuttgart
Date: 31 Oct 1998 01:41:53 GMT
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Hallo Leute!
Es ist mal wieder der erste Montag im Monat und ich moechte alle zu unserem
NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/Apple Stammtisch in Stuttgart im 'Sherlock'
(Pfaffenwaldring, direkt bei der Uni, ca. 200 m von der S-Bahnhaltestelle
'Universitaet Stuttgart') am Montag den 2.11.1998 einladen. Ein grosser Tisch
ist ab 20:00 Uhr reserviert, ich wuerde mich ueber zahlreiches Erscheinen
freuen...
Frank Siegert
[frank@wizards.de]
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: Eine ganz eifache Frage?
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Christiano Blasi <cblasi@altos.de> wrote:
: da ich per Zufall auf NextStep gestoßen bin, würde es mich sehr
: interessieren, wo ich den NextStep erwerben kann??
Z.B. bei Realtime Computing & Nets, RCN, (www.rcn.de, rcn@rcn.de) oder
Academy Systemhaus (office@medicom.de), beide Berlin.
Aber vielleicht kann jemand aus Deiner naeheren Umgebung einen dichter
gelegenen Haendler nennen...
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Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
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From: Werner Dworaczek
Message-ID: <363b439c.0@news.munich.netsurf.de>
Date: 31 Oct 1998 18:06:36 +0100
lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) wrote:
>In article <F15tIt.MJ0@tallawe.lahn.de> cla_sch@tallawe_lahn_de (Claus
>Schneeberger) writes:
>> In <70ifsg$9vq$1@ns.munich.object-factory.com> Bernhard
>> Scholz,Obejct Factory, Inselkammerstr. 4, Unterhaching wrote:
>> > Problem ist nur: ich brauch wohl noch einen Disktabeintrag,
>> da
>> > sich die Diskette nicht auf NeXT umformatieren lassen
>> sondern nur
>> > als DOS Disketten verwendet werden koennen.
>>
>> Bei meinem Syquest Laufwerk mu te ich lediglich die Partition
>> l schen und schon wurde das Medium von NeXT als neu erkannt
>> und konnte formatiert werden. M glicherweise funktioniert das
>> ja mit dem ZIP auch?
>>
>> Tata, Claus
>>
>> --
>> +---+===================
>> |\ /| Claus Schneeberger
>> | X | 63674 Altenstadt
>> |/ \| clasch@writeme.com
>> +---+ clasch@altavista.net
>>
>was bei mir geholfen hat war
>einmal als Apple-Disk formatieren,
>danach als NEXT.
>
Das funktioniert bei einem ATAPI ZIP-Laufwerk nicht. Die Formatierung wird
mit einer Fehlermeldung abgebrochen.
Hat jemand eine Lösung?
Werner
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Subject: THOUSAND DOLLARS PER WEEK.
From: tqtjwpwy@somethingfunny.net
Organization: Your Organization
Message-ID: <363c5e19.0@news.netway.com>
Date: 1 Nov 98 13:11:53 GMT
>THOUSAND DOLLARS PER WEEK.
>
>$368,000.00 in 5 months. WHY NOT ??
>
>I MADE JUST THAT. Don't believe it? Then stop reading, otherwise go
>on!! Did you ever want to live the good life? Be able to afford the
>nicer things in life?
>
>I have got it now. Do you want to know how I did it? Well, here it
is:
>
> ( I suggest you to print this article out, in order to save
> reading time and loading time as well. )
>
>I came across an article that said you could make thousands of dollars
>within weeks with only an initial investment of US$6.00. Well,I
thought,
>"yeah, right, this must be a scam, how stupid can one be to fall for
>that?"
>
>But I was curious, so I kept reading. I AM GLAD I DID. Anyway, it
said
>that you send US$ 1.00 to each of the 6 names and addresses stated in
>the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of
>the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. No
catch,
>that was it.The main difference between this system and others is that
>you have a mailing list of 6 instead of 5...This means that your
average
>gain will be approximately 15 times higher!!! So after thinking it
>over, I thought about trying it. I figured what have I got to lose
>except 6 stamps and $6.oo? If you are worried about the legal aspects
>of it all, check it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161), It
>is legal! I invested the $6.00............Well GUESS WHAT!!...within 7
>days, I started receiving money in the mail. I was amazed! I figured
>it would end soon, but it didn't. The money just kept coming in. In
my
>first week, I made about $20.00 to $30.00. By the end of the second
>week I had made a total of over$1,050.00!!!! In the third week I had
>over $11,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fifth month and
>I have made a total of just over$368,000.00 and it's still coming
>in...... It's certainly worth US$ 6.00 and 6 stamps, I spent more than
>that each week on the lottery!! (And I seldom won even a dollar on
that)
>
>Let me tell you how this works and also, make sure you print a copy of
>this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you
>need it. This process is very simple and consists of 3 easy steps. You
>may wonder why I tell you this? It's only possible with your desire to
>become wealthy too. So go for it - what have you got to lose??? This
>system REALLY works. It worked for me so far!!
>
>Here are the steps:
>
> Step 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on
>each piece "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Now get 6 US $1.00
>bills (or equivalent in your local currency) and place ONE inside EACH
>of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the
>envelope (this prevents thievery). Next place one paper in each of the
>6 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes,
each
>with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name and address,
>and a US$ 1.00 bill. You are creating a service by this. THIS IS
>ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:
>
> 1. DSZC
> PO Box 367
> Dunedin, FL 34697-0367
>
> 2. W.Barker
> 66a Middle St. Sth.
> DRIFFIELD England YO25 6SU
>
> 3. Tom Johnson
> PO Box 825
> Burlington Ma
> 01803
>
> 4. D. COUNTER
> PO Box 367
> RICHMOND, VA 34697-0367
>
5. R. Johnson
> 531 Dawson Lane
> Lebanon, TN 37087
>
> 6. Bobby Comtios
52 sidney street
lowell ma 01852
>Step 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
>other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR name as
>number 6 on the list.
>
>Step 3: Change anything you need to. Now, post your amended article
to
>at least 200 newsgroups (there are a bunch of them out there). All you
>need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make!
>Don't know how to get to post in the newsgroups? Well do exactly the
>following:
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Subject: kein "richtigen" connect zu ELSA Microlink 33.6 QTV
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:07:01 +0100
Organization: TechNet GmbH
Message-ID: <71kapl$mft$1@oxygen.technet.net>
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hi folks,
habe folgendes problem:
unix server (openstep 4.2) mit Elsa 33.6 modem (auf autoanswer)
einwählen unter NT4.0 oder win95/98 mit zyxel oder anderem standardmodem
(gleiches verhalten)
es kommt eine kurze connect meldung und dann nur eine zeile sonderzeichen
auf dem
bildschirm. (statt login und passwort abfrage)
wenn ich das elsa modem am server gegen ein zyxel tausche ist das verhalten
korrekt (connect meldung und login, password abfrage)
kennt jemand eine mögliche ursache?
liegt das überhaupt an der modem konfiguration?
nach stundenlangem rumprobieren mit allen möglichen at-sequenzen
weiß ich mittlerweile nicht mehr weiter
für schnelle hilfe wäre ich dankbar
thank in advance
frank
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Externe HD?
Date: 2 Nov 1998 15:21:09 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <71kil5$3qo$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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"Thomas v. Mandel" <mandel@charon.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de> wrote:
> Laesst sich eine externe 4GB Platte problemlos an eine NexT anschliessen
> oder gibt es dabei besondere Dinge zu beachten. Ich habe vor die Platte
> nicht zu partitionieren. Geht das oder sind 4 GB zu groß.
NEXTSTEP kann nur Partitionen bis 2 GB verarbeiten; bei 4 GB mußt Du also
partitionieren, dann geht es aber.
Leider gibt es ein Zusatzproblem, falls Du das OS selbst darauf installieren
willst (das macht Deine Mail nicht ganz klar): NEXTSTEP sieht beim
Installieren von der Größe der HD nur das, was nach Abzug von ganzzahligen 2
GB-Partitionen übrigbleibt; hast Du also z.B. 4,1 GB, dann denkt NEXTSTEP,
die Platte sei 100 MB groß und verweigert die Installation, da Platte zu
klein. Du mußt dann also von einer anderen Platte aus partitionieren und
installieren, auf der NEXTSTEP schon läuft, aber das scheint bei Dir ja zu
gehen.
Tschau
Uli
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From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Treiber fuer Adaptec 3940UW?
Date: 2 Nov 1998 14:31:24 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <71kfns$hmh$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Hi Leute,
gibt es einen Treiber fuer den Adaptec 3940UW
Controller?
Danke,
Ciao Martin
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From: John Smith <jsmth@company.com>
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Subject: OPENSTEP:PII und ATI AGP?
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:33:48 +0100
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Hi,
Ich bin grade dabei mir einen neuen Rechner zusammenzustellen. Es sollte
schon ein PII
sein, wird der mit OS 4.2 funktionieren?
Leider bekommt man auch keine Motherboards ohne AGP mehr (fast
jedenfalls). Ich möchte eine ATI Xpert@play mit 8MB einsetzen und habe
gesehen, daß es einen neuen beta Treiber mit AGP Unterstützung gibt.
Weiß jemand vielleicht, ob dieser zuverlässig funktioniert? Oder soll
ich doch bei der PCI Version bleiben? (Und funktioniert die?)
Wie steht's mit 100Mhz SDRAMS?
Vielen Dank schon im vornherein
-Max
From: John Smith <jsmth@company.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OGOTT!NEIN!WorkspaceManager startet nicht!
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:33:56 +0100
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Oh Mann, was ist denn jetzt wieder passiert?
Ich war gerade dabei ein paar backspace modules auszuprobieren und dann
kam plötzlich ein kleines Fenster mit irgend einem Fehler und gab mir
die Option zu rebooten, zu halten und zu monitoren! Ich habe gehaltet:
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Filesystem check durchgeführt wurde. Der Rechner rebootete neu und
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und das login panel erschien. Ich meldete mich als root an,
funktionierte auch, Preferences startete und der Workspace Manager
schien auch zu starten. Sein Symbol wurde von grau zu schwarz.
Aber jetzt kommts: Bis das WM Menü und der File Viewer erscheinen kommt
meistens noch ein sekunde lang der Wartekreisel, der verschwindet aber
nicht mehr und der WM scheint nicht zuendezuladen. Ich kann die Maus
bewegen, das Dock verschieben und mit der POS1 Taste abschalten, aber
sonst nichts! Woran kann das liegen?
Ich denke es wird wieder irgendsoeine Lapalie sein und dafür
entschuldige ich mich, aber leider weiß ich auch nicht wo man
Informationen bekommt um sich ein bißchen WISSEN anzueignen, um nicht
jedesmal fragen zu müssen, wenn es Probleme gibt. Wenn jemand mir dazu
was sagen könnte, wäre es auch super!!!
Vielen Vielen Dank im voraus!!!
-Max
From: John Smith <jsmth@company.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OPENSTEP:PII und ATI AGP?
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:33:59 +0100
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Hi,
Ich bin grade dabei mir einen neuen Rechner zusammenzustellen. Es sollte
schon ein PII
sein, wird der mit OS 4.2 funktionieren?
Leider bekommt man auch keine Motherboards ohne AGP mehr (fast
jedenfalls). Ich möchte eine ATI Xpert@play mit 8MB einsetzen und habe
gesehen, daß es einen neuen beta Treiber mit AGP Unterstützung gibt.
Weiß jemand vielleicht, ob dieser zuverlässig funktioniert? Oder soll
ich doch bei der PCI Version bleiben? (Und funktioniert die?)
Wie steht's mit 100Mhz SDRAMS?
Vielen Dank schon im vornherein
-Max
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From: scholz@munich.object-factory.com (Bernhard Scholz)
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Date: 3 Nov 1998 08:58:41 GMT
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joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann) wrote:
>Bernhard Scholz (scholz@leo.org) wrote:
>
>> Fuer OS4.2 kann ich im Moment die ATI Xpert@Work empfehlen. Eignet sich
>
>Genau die habe ich unter OS4.2 (mit 8MB,AGP) und mir kommt das
>Verschieben grosser Fenster etwas ruckelig vor, ist das normal oder
>ist der Treiber nicht optimiert? Ich habe das letzte Mal eine
>NeXTStation vor vielen Jahren gesehen, aber wenn mich meine Erinnerung
>nicht truegt, war selbst da schon das Verschieben absolut ruckelfrei.
>
Wenn mich mein Eindruck nicht trübt, war das Verschieben unter
xStep/Intel schon immer ruckelig.
Gruesse,
Bernhard.
From: "p.buettiker" <p.buettiker@fz-juelich.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: DDD (Debugger-Frontend) und NS 3.3 & Cub'X
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:29:37 +0100
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Hallo
Hat es jemand von Euch geschafft, das Debugger-Frontend DDD
(http://www.cs.tu-bs.de/softech/ddd/) fuer NeXTSTEP 3.3 f. Intel und
Cub'X v.5.0 (X11R6) zu compilieren?
Bin fuer jeden Hinweis dankbar!!!
Gruss, Paul.
--
"Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute.
That's relativity."
(A. Einstein)
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From: scholz@munich.object-factory.com (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ZIP-Laufwerk an NEXT?????
Date: 3 Nov 1998 10:47:03 GMT
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tis.adm@t-online.de (Günter Westphal) wrote:
>Ich hatte das gleiche Problem mit meinem SCSI-Zip 100 Laufwerk und habe
>daraufhin mal beim Apple Support nachgehakt. Zur"uckzuf"uhren sei das
>Problem auf einen Firmware-Bug im Zip-Laufwerk (bei "alteren Firmware-
>Versionen irgendwo zwischen 1.9 und 2.0). Beheben l"a"st er sich mit
>folgendem WorkAround.
>
Der Workaround scheint wirklich nur mit SCSI Laufwerken zu gehen.
Auch das Formatiere Mac->NeXT geht wohl nur mit SCSI Laufwerken.
Mit ATAPI kann man noch nicht mal direkt auf das raw device schreiben.
Weder rsdxh noch rhdxh funktionieren hier. Bei der SCSI Version kann
er nicht schreiben und bei der EIDE Version kann er kein create ausführen.
Auch das interaktive disk Kommando rödelt gnadenlos ab. Das Problem
liegt wohl definitiv im Treiber der nicht genügend Informationen liefert
um das ATAPI Laufwerk komplett auf SCSI zu mappen.
Schade und dumm. Werde wohl doch mal eine SCSI Version kaufen und
versuchen die SCSI formatierten Disketten mit ATAPI Laufwerken
zu lesen. Hoffentlich geht wenigstens das.
Viele Grüße,
Bernhard.
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From: robert@iamexwi.unibe.ch (Philippe Robert)
Organization: Dept. of CS, University of Berne, Switzerland
Subject: S: Cube Case
Message-ID: <363f0733.0@news.unibe.ch>
Date: 3 Nov 1998 14:37:55 +0100
Hi!
Suche ein leeres Cube Case... Kann mir da jm weiterhelfen?
-Phil
--
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Uptime Object Factory Inc | http://www.nice.ch/~phip
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From: robert@iamexwi.unibe.ch (Philippe Robert)
Organization: Dept. of CS, University of Berne, Switzerland
Subject: Re: Atarianer (Wie OpenStep Entwicklung)
Summary:
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Date: 3 Nov 1998 14:39:54 +0100
In article <6qd41i$4vj$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>, Mario Illgen <Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE> writes:
> dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn) wrote:
> >Heutzutage richtig. Ich wollte nur gefragt haben, ob "alte" (im sinne
> >von ehemalige oder noch aktive) Atarianer den Weg nach OpenStep gefunden
> >haben. Ich will nicht hoffen das viele im DOS-Sumpf erstickt sind.
> >
> Noch einer... Der Mega ST und der Falcon sind auch noch vorhanden,
> jedoch kaum genutzt...
Und noch einer...;-) Mein 260er ST steht auch noch rum, ach ja, und der 1040er
auch noch - aber den haben ja fast alle...;-)
-Phil
--
Philippe C.D. Robert | OpenStep/WebObjects/Unix
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From: Thorsten Bjoern Rissom <jagoda@physik.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Subject: Re: Empfehlung
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:48:00 +0100
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On 3 Nov 1998, Bernhard Scholz wrote:
> joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann) wrote:
> >Bernhard Scholz (scholz@leo.org) wrote:
> >ist der Treiber nicht optimiert? Ich habe das letzte Mal eine
> >NeXTStation vor vielen Jahren gesehen, aber wenn mich meine Erinnerung
> >nicht truegt, war selbst da schon das Verschieben absolut ruckelfrei.
> >
> Wenn mich mein Eindruck nicht trübt, war das Verschieben unter
> xStep/Intel schon immer ruckelig.
>
Also hier ruckelt es eigentlich nicht. (Elsa Winner Trio 1000 mit S3
Chipsatz Treiber, leider schon wieder voellig veraltet).
Gruss,
Thorsten Rissom
jagoda@physik.tu-berlin.de
From: scholz@munich.object-factory.com (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Fragen zu InterfaceBuilder
Date: 3 Nov 1998 15:52:00 GMT
Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie
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joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann) wrote:
>Einige Fragen konnte ich inzwischen selbst beantworten. Das
>NSReturnSign habe ich bekommen, nachdem ich es im IB wrapper directory
>in die Datei images.irgendwas eingetragen habe, in der
>merkwuerdigerweise alle anderen Images ausser diesem eingetragen
>waren.(???)
>
das NSReturnSign gibt es deswegen nicht, weil es bei OpenStep
das Standardimage ist, für den Default-Button. Also einen
Button als Default versehen (bzw. mit der /r glaub ich als
Tastenkombination) und InterfaceBuilder macht das ReturnSign
automatisch.
>Trozdem bleiben noch einige Fragen:
>1) gibt es im IB kein undo?
Hab ich auch noch nicht gefunden aber auch noch nicht gebraucht.
Oder --- mal überlegen --- nein ich hätte es echt noch nicht gebraucht.
Wäre aber vielleicht nett.
>2) wenn ich mehrere Objekte Shift-anklicke, um das erste zum
>Referenzobjekt zu machen, klappt das zwar fuer "same Size", aber fuer
>"make Row" oder "make Column" wird immer das oberste als
>Referenzobjekt genommen, ist das ein Bug? Ausserdem beendet sich der
Ein Bug ist ein fehlerhaftes Verhalten. Das ist hier ja wohl nicht so,
sondern es ist höchstens nicht konsistent.
>ProjectBuilder regelmaessig, wenn ich den Find Panel ausgiebig nutze.
>Insgesamt finde ich das etwas enttaeuschend, ich haette erwartet, dass
>das Ganze nach 10 Jahren Entwicklung stabil und zuverlaessig ist.
>
Die Indizierung ist eine Geschichte die NeXT seit 3.3 angeblich nicht
mehr pflegt und mit ATSUI gibt es ja sowieso einen Ersatz. Ich gehe
davon aus, daß sich hier einige Bugs noch verstecken. Abgestürzt ist
bei mir der Project-Builder deswegen allerdings nicht.
Der Projectbuilder von 4.2 ist übrigens gerade mal 2 Jahre alt (je nachdem
wie man rechnet).
>Gibt es ansonsten irgendwo eine Liste, in der evtl. alle weiteren Bugs
>des IB/PB stehen? Es ist etwas frustrierend, wenn immer wieder Dinge
>nicht so funktionieren, wie im Handbuch beschrieben(ich dachte,
>Betatester spielt man nur bei Fenster 95?)
Jetzt mal nicht so negativ! Unter was verwendest Du das eigtl.? Unter
Windows ist PB und IB tatsächlich etwas buggier als unter Mach, eigtl.
ist alles unter Mach sehr stabil, bis auf die letzte Release von PB
die aber auch einige neue Features bietet und genau die zeigen Bugs.
Alle Bugs sind bei Apple beschrieben unter den Release Notes zu WebObjects
4.0
Viele Grüße,
Bernhard.
From: scholz@munich.object-factory.com (Bernhard Scholz)
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Date: 3 Nov 1998 15:59:59 GMT
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juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>ich beziehe meine Mals per uucp und lasse sie dann von procmail auf
>verschiedene Briefkästen verteilen. Gerade bei Mailinglisten ist das
>sehr hilfreich.
>
>Nun kommen die Mails aber per uucp nicht in der Reihenfolge bei mir
>an, wie sie von der Mailingliste verschickt wurden.
>
>Gibt es eine Möglichkeit (vielleicht mit procmail) die Mails von einer
>Mailingliste in chronologischer Reihenfolge in einen Briefkasten
>einsortieren zu lassen?
>
Es gibt schon witzige Frage :-)
Wozu einfach wenns auch kompliziert geht:
Mail.app Menü: Briefkasten - Sortieren - Nach Datum.
Wenns aber unbedingt sein muß: procmail-request@ ....
Viele Grüße,
Bernhard.
Erfolg,
Bernhard.
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der fehler lag in der seriellen baudrate zum modem.
zyxel unterstützt 16800 bps, elsa nicht.
gettytab eintrag auf 19200 gesetzt, und es fluppt.
so long
frank
Bernhard Scholz schrieb in Nachricht
<71n95o$dnp$2@ns.munich.object-factory.com>...
>"Frank an der Heiden" <fh@energotec.de> wrote:
>>
>>wenn ich das elsa modem am server gegen ein zyxel tausche ist das
>>verhalten korrekt (connect meldung und login, password abfrage)
>>
>>kennt jemand eine mögliche ursache?
>>liegt das überhaupt an der modem konfiguration?
>>
>Komisch daß es mit einem anderen Modem funktioniert ....
>Das einzige was mir dazu einfällt, ist die konfiguration der
>Modems, bzw. der Terminalinitialisierung.
>Wenn Du Sonderzeichenmüll bekommst, der aber von der Form
>her der normalen Login-Meldung gleicht, hast Du ein Parity-Problem.
>und/oder es werden nur 7Bits anstatt 8Bits zur Zeichenübertragung
>verwendet.
>
>Versuch doch mal den umgekehrten Weg: vom Server auf den Clients
>einloggen.
>
>Viel Erfolg,
>
> Bernhard.
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
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Bernhard Scholz wrote:
> Es gibt schon witzige Frage :-)
>
> Wozu einfach wenns auch kompliziert geht:
> Mail.app Menü: Briefkasten - Sortieren - Nach Datum.
Fast hätte ich mich für meine Dummheit entschuldigt, aber nur fast , denn
n ganz so trivial ist es nun doch nicht :-)
Nach welchem Datum wird denn dann sortiert? Es sind ja verschiedene im
eader.
Ausserdem scheint mir das nicht die Default-Einstellung zu sein. Kann man
n das irgendwo als Default festlegen?
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
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Subject: NeXT shell 8 bit clean bekommen?
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Ich habe hier eine Maschine mit NeXT OS 3.3. Wenn ich per ssh als me von
außen reingehe, ist die Shell (/bin/csh) nicht 8 bit clean, d.h. statt ä
erscheint z.B. d. Wie bekomme ich es 8 bit clean?
Stty gibt folgendes aus:
new tty, speed 38400 baud; even -tabs crt pass8 pendin decctlq brk = ^@,
dsusp = ^@
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From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
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Subject: Re: Fragen zu InterfaceBuilder
Date: 4 Nov 1998 17:39:37 GMT
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Bernhard Scholz (scholz@munich.object-factory.com) wrote:
> >1) gibt es im IB kein undo?
> Hab ich auch noch nicht gefunden aber auch noch nicht gebraucht.
Beim Anklicken von GUI-objekten passiert es mir manchmal, dass ich sie
versehentlich etwas verschiebe, dann waere undo ganz nuetzlich. Wenn
man das weiss, kann man es natuerlich vermeiden, indem man beim
klicken CTRL drueckt.
> >"make Row" oder "make Column" wird immer das oberste als
> >Referenzobjekt genommen, ist das ein Bug?
> Ein Bug ist ein fehlerhaftes Verhalten. Das ist hier ja wohl nicht so,
> sondern es ist höchstens nicht konsistent.
In der Dokumentation steht aber, dass das mit dem Referenzobjekt
funktionieren muesste, und es waere auch sehr viel praktischer.
Nachdem ich die kleinen Macken zu umgehen gelernt habe, bin ich aber
insgesamt sehr begeistert. Es ist schon faszinierend, was man
teilweise in wenigen Minuten fuer Ergebnisse erreichen kann.
> Alle Bugs sind bei Apple beschrieben unter den Release Notes zu WebObjects
> 4.0
Wo findet man die denn? Zu WebObjects 4 habe ich nichts ausser einer
Presseerklaerung gefunden.
Joerg
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From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
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Subject: MacOS X Server sourcecode
Date: 5 Nov 1998 17:51:07 GMT
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Hallo,
Apple veranstaltet momentan an verschiedenen Universitaeten sogenannte
"Apple technology days". Ich habe mir gerade den Vortrag ueber
technology news angehoert, und MacOS X oder WebObjects wurden nur ganz
am Rande erwaehnt. Was ich aber kaum glauben kann, ist, dass offiziell
verkuendet wurde, der komplette MacOS X Server source soll in der Art
von Mozilla frei verfuegbar gemacht werden. Das heisst offenbar, MacOS
X Server wird auch nicht weiter supported, und fuer die Zukunft von
MacOS X ist Apple wohl nur am Carbon API interessiert.
Joerg
From: laire@basis.owl.de (Ralph Schmidt)
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Subject: Re: MacOS X Server sourcecode
Date: 5 Nov 1998 18:08:52 GMT
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On 11/05/98, Joerg Kollmann wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>Apple veranstaltet momentan an verschiedenen Universitaeten
sogenannte
>"Apple technology days". Ich habe mir gerade den Vortrag ueber
>technology news angehoert, und MacOS X oder WebObjects wurden nur
ganz
>am Rande erwaehnt. Was ich aber kaum glauben kann, ist, dass
offiziell
>verkuendet wurde, der komplette MacOS X Server source soll in der Art
>von Mozilla frei verfuegbar gemacht werden. Das heisst offenbar,
MacOS
>X Server wird auch nicht weiter supported, und fuer die Zukunft von
>MacOS X ist Apple wohl nur am Carbon API interessiert.
>
MacOS X Server...meint wahrscheinlich den BSD Server...Treiber usw.
Damit wuerde man das OS freigeben wie Linux/*BSD und viele Hobby
Unix Entwickler wuerden es pflegen/Treiber schreiben usw.
Damit spart man halt Resourcen.
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From: Paul Seelig <pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de>
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Subject: Re: MacOS X Server sourcecode
Date: 05 Nov 1998 18:44:06 +0100
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joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann) writes:
> Apple veranstaltet momentan an verschiedenen Universitaeten sogenannte
> "Apple technology days".
>
Okay, bitte Butter bei die Fische: In Bremen gibt es also solche
Vortraege. Hast du da nicht noch einen "Tourneeplan"? Steht da
vielleicht auch Mainz drauf?
> Ich habe mir gerade den Vortrag ueber
> technology news angehoert, und MacOS X oder WebObjects wurden nur ganz
> am Rande erwaehnt. Was ich aber kaum glauben kann, ist, dass offiziell
> verkuendet wurde, der komplette MacOS X Server source soll in der Art
> von Mozilla frei verfuegbar gemacht werden.
>
Hmm, das wuerde ich ja ganz gern mal irgendwo schriftlich sehen. Wer
hat das denn gesagt? Kannst du den Namen herausfinden?
> Das heisst offenbar, MacOS
> X Server wird auch nicht weiter supported, und fuer die Zukunft von
> MacOS X ist Apple wohl nur am Carbon API interessiert.
>
Wenn die Lizenz fuer den Source aehnlich akzeptabel ist wie die
Mozilla-Lizenz, dann koennten sich fuer Linux und das GNUstep-Projekt
ziemlich interessante Perspektiven auftun.
P. *8^)
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From: Ben <mikego@geocities.com>
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Subject: Nextstep und AGP und PII
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:07:18 +0100
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Hi
ich wollte nur mal fragen, ob jemand schon Erfahrung mit OPENSTEP
4.2 auf einem Pentium II System mit AGP und 100Mhz SDRAMS gemacht hat
und ob das zuverlässig funktioniert.
Ich habe eine ATI Karte mit RAGE PRO chip und die wird ja meines
Wissens nach mit einem neuen Betatreiber auch als AGP Karte unterstützt.
Arbeitet dieser Treiber reibungslos (und bekommt er auch irgendwann noch
den RELEASED status)?
Vielen Dank für eure Hilfe
Gruss,
Benjamin
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From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
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From: renkes@OneVision.de (Frank Renkes)
Subject: Re: Atarianer (Wie OpenStep Entwicklung)
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In article <363f07aa.0@news.unibe.ch> robert@iamexwi.unibe.ch (Philippe Robert)
writes:
> In article <6qd41i$4vj$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>, Mario Illgen
<Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE> writes:
> > dieter.fiebelkorn@marl.netsurf.de (Dieter Fiebelkorn) wrote:
> > >Heutzutage richtig. Ich wollte nur gefragt haben, ob "alte" (im sinne
> > >von ehemalige oder noch aktive) Atarianer den Weg nach OpenStep gefunden
> > >haben. Ich will nicht hoffen das viele im DOS-Sumpf erstickt sind.
> > >
> > Noch einer... Der Mega ST und der Falcon sind auch noch vorhanden,
> > jedoch kaum genutzt...
>
> Und noch einer...;-) Mein 260er ST steht auch noch rum, ach ja, und der
1040er
> auch noch - aber den haben ja fast alle...;-)
>
> -Phil
> --
> Philippe C.D. Robert | OpenStep/WebObjects/Unix
> Uptime Object Factory Inc | http://www.nice.ch/~phip
Ich zle mich seit zwei Jahren auch zu den Umsteiger von Atari
zu Openstep. :-)
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From: darren@topliving.com
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Subject: ONLINE BEFRAGUNG - Wie Sind Sie Im Vergleich?
Date: 6 Nov 1998 16:31:39 GMT
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sie mehr weniger oder im Durchschnitt genau
so viel mit ihrem Online Geschäft verdienen,
im Vergleich mit anderen Online Geschäfts-
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Genau deswegen habe ich einen
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From: "Thomas v. Mandel" <mandel@charon.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de>
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Subject: Printer =?iso-8859-1?Q?=FCber?= Ethernet
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 20:17:54 +0100
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Hi,
hat jemand einen Tip wie ich eine NS 3.3 über Ethernet dazu bringe auf
einem LaserWriter (Apple) zu drucken. Es müssen irgendwelche Eintrage in
der printcap vorgenommen werden glaube ich, aber diese Datei exsitiert
unter /etc bei mir gar nicht.
Gruss
thomas
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
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Subject: Re: Printer =?iso-8859-1?Q?=FCber?= Ethernet
Date: 6 Nov 1998 19:57:50 GMT
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"Thomas v. Mandel" <mandel@charon.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de> wrote:
>hat jemand einen Tip wie ich eine NS 3.3 über Ethernet dazu bringe auf
>einem LaserWriter (Apple) zu drucken. Es müssen irgendwelche Eintrage in
>der printcap vorgenommen werden glaube ich, aber diese Datei exsitiert
>unter /etc bei mir gar nicht.
printcap wird ueber netinfo verwaltet, daher existiert die Datei
nicht. Am einfachsten richtest du den Drucker mit 'PrinterManager'
ein. Man kann auch printcap-Dateien niloaden, aber das geht je
nach Format soso lala.
Gruesse, Chris
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
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Subject: Ostern
Date: 6 Nov 1998 20:03:16 GMT
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Hi Leute,
hab kuerzlich wieder den Osterhasen getroffen.. Junge ist der sauer..
Gruesse, Chris
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From: schuerig@acm.org (Michael Schuerig)
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Subject: Re: Ostern
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:45:13 +0100
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Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
> hab kuerzlich wieder den Osterhasen getroffen.. Junge ist der sauer..
Hat er Dir was Hochprozentiges zu trinken angeboten?
Oder hat er erst kuerzlich erfahren, dass ihm ein paar Eier
untergeschoben werden, die eigentlich schon zu Thanksgiving haetten
ausgebruetet sein sollen?
Michael
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In de.comp.os.unix.discussion Joerg Kollmann <joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de>
wrote:
> Den betreffenden Vortrag hat Carsten Brinkschulte (oder so aehnlich)
> gehalten, Programmierer des Mac-Programms ClockWork. Er sagte, er kann
> diese Ankuendigung offiziell im Namen von Apple machen.
Wenn das stimmt, wäre es eine Sensation. Wir hätten innerhalb kürzester Zeit ein
fertiges GNUstep. ABER: Warum ist davon *nichts* in den einschlägigen Quellen zu
hören <MacOS Rumors, apple.com, gnustep.announce, slashdot.org, fsf.org, Linux
Daily News...)? Bist Du Dir wirklich sicher, daß es um die Offenlegung des
OpenStep/Yellow Box-Sourcecodes geht oder nicht vielmehr darum, die Yellow Box -
wie ursprünglich geplant - als kostenloses Binary für diverse Plattformen anzubieten?
Ich zögere noch, dieses Gerücht mal als Anfrage in Slashdot oder den GNU newsgroups
zu posten, weil das eine Lawine von Mißverständnissen lostreten könnte.
Florian
--
Florian Cramer <paragram@gmx.net>, PGP public key ID 6440BA05
combinatory poetry site: <http://permutations.home.ml.org>
From: Florian Cramer <cantsin@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.unix.programming,de.comp.os.unix.discussion
Subject: Re: MacOS X Server sourcecode
Date: 8 Nov 1998 14:56:03 GMT
Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin
Sender: Florian Cramer <cantsin@Komma.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE>
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In de.comp.os.unix.discussion Joerg Kollmann
<joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de> wrote:
> Den betreffenden Vortrag hat Carsten Brinkschulte (oder so aehnlich)
> gehalten, Programmierer des Mac-Programms ClockWork. Er sagte, er kann
> diese Ankuendigung offiziell im Namen von Apple machen.
Ich habe soeben E-Mails an Apple Deutschland und developer.apple.com
geschrieben und um Bestätigung oder Widerlegung des Gerüchts gebeten.
Falls die frohe Botschaft tatsächlich stimmt, sind immer noch eine Reihe
von Fragen zu beantworten:
- unter welcher Lizenz sollte - falls dem so wäre - die Yellow Box offengelegt
werden;
- welche Bestandteile können freigegeben werden. (DPS z.B. gehört Adobe und müßte
aus dem Sourcecode entfernt werden).
Florian
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combinatory poetry site: <http://permutations.home.ml.org>
From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: MacOS X Server sourcecode
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next
Date: 8 Nov 1998 15:20:45 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
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Florian Cramer (cantsin@zedat.fu-berlin.de) wrote:
> Ich zvgere noch, dieses Ger|cht mal als Anfrage in Slashdot oder den GNU news\
groups
> zu posten, weil das eine Lawine von Mi_verstdndnissen lostreten kvnnte.
ich versuche mal, die email von Carsten Brinkschulte herauszufinden
und frage ihn, warum man die Ankuendigung nirgends nachlesen kann. Er
sagte jedenfalls auf Nachfrage, ob es sich wirklich um den ganzen
Source handeln wird, es wird sicher nicht der source fuer Zutaten wie
Quicktime dabei sein, sonst aber alles.
Joerg
From: Florian Cramer <cantsin@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.unix.programming,de.comp.os.unix.discussion
Subject: MacOS X Server sourcecode - Klarstellung
Date: 8 Nov 1998 19:09:03 GMT
Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin
Sender: Florian Cramer <cantsin@Komma.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE>
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In de.comp.os.unix.discussion Joerg Kollmann
<joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de> wrote:
> Den betreffenden Vortrag hat Carsten Brinkschulte (oder so aehnlich)
> gehalten, Programmierer des Mac-Programms ClockWork. Er sagte, er kann
> diese Ankuendigung offiziell im Namen von Apple machen.
Ich habe ihm geschrieben (s. gequoteter Text unten) und soeben untenstehnde Antwort
erhalten. Die Frage ist jetzt, ob man diese Sache mal in ein Slashdot-Feature
packt, um den eventuellen Denkprozeß bei Apple von außen zu beschleunigen.
-- begin quoted text ---
Subject: Re: Rhapsody/Yellow Box wird OpenSource?
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 98 17:34:12 +0100
From: Carsten Brinkschulte <century@berlin.snafu.de>
To: "Florian Cramer" <cantsin@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
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Herr Cramer,
diese Nachrich kann ich NICHT bestaetigen. Ich denke, es waere auch eher Apples Aufgabe, eine
solche Ankuendigung zu machen. Ich wuerde einen solchen Schritt zwar theoretisch fuer moeglich
halten, ich habe jedoch KEINE Informationen ueber eine moegliche Freigabe des YellowBox/Rhapsody
Quelltextes.
Bitte geben Sie diese Antwort an die Diskussionsforen weiter.
Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Carsten Brinkschulte
>Lieber Herr Brinkschulte,
>
>eine kleine Rückfrage: Im Usenet kursieren Gerüchte, nach denen Sie auf
>einer MacOS X-Präsentation in Bremen bekanntgegeben hätten, daß die Yellow
>Box/das OpenStep-API von MacOS X Server nach dem Modell von Netscapes
>Mozilla unter eine Open Source-Lizenz gestellt würde und somit der
>Linux-Community bzw. GNUstep-Projekt <www.gnustep.org> bald im Sourcecode
>zur Verfügung stünde.
>
>Diese Nachricht klingt so sensationell - und sie ist in den einschlägigen
>Foren (slashdot.org, macosrumors, developer.apple.com, den
>gnu.*-Newsgroups) auch nicht zu finden -, daß ich nicht recht dran glauben
>mag bzw. ein Mißverständnis bei Ihrem Zuhörer für wahrscheinlich halte.
>
>Können Sie das Gerücht, das derzeit u.a. in de.comp.os.unix.discussion
>zirkuliert, bestätigen oder dementieren? Ich würde mich sehr über eine
>Antwort freuen und sie gerne an die Linux-/Gnustep-Community weitergeben!
>
>Gruß,
>
> Florian Cramer
>
>--
>Florian Cramer <paragram@gmx.net>, PGP public key ID 6440BA05
>combinatory poetry site: <http://permutations.home.ml.org>
>
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combinatory poetry site: <http://permutations.home.ml.org>
From: claudia.ullmann@t-online.de (Christian Witt)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: CD 3.3 kaputt
Date: 9 Nov 1998 00:37:08 GMT
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hi,
vieleicht kann mir jemand weiter helfen. Ich hatte 3.1 3.2 und 3.3
nun da ich wieder mal Lust hatte NeXTStep zu installieren, stellte
sich heraus, dass meine 3.3 cd eine Fehler aufwies.
Ich nicht dumm versuchte die CD unter Linux neu zu brennen; ging auch
aber beschränkt. Nach der Installation bekomme ich einen Workspace
error und das war es. Keine Chance 3.3 irgendwie zu installieren (5-8
schlaflose Nächte + verärgerte Freundin :-( )
Wie komme ich nun an einen funktionierende 3.3 oder (mittels Zahlungs
mittel DM) an eine höhere Version von NS
Da ich damals meine dipl. Arbeit auf 3.3 implementiert habe, und sehr
interessiert wäre NS wieder zum Leben zu erwecken, wäre ich dankebar
für jegliche Information.
Dank vorweg !
ciao
chris
From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.unix.programming,de.comp.os.unix.discussion
Subject: Re: MacOS X Server sourcecode - Klarstellung
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.unix.programming,de.comp.os.unix.discussion
Date: 9 Nov 1998 11:48:12 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
Message-ID: <726kps$hub$1@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de>
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Florian Cramer (cantsin@zedat.fu-berlin.de) wrote:
> Ich habe ihm geschrieben (s. gequoteter Text unten) und soeben untenstehnde Antwort
> erhalten. Die Frage ist jetzt, ob man diese Sache mal in ein Slashdot-Feature
> packt, um den eventuellen Denkprozeß bei Apple von außen zu beschleunigen.
> -- begin quoted text ---
> Subject> Re: Rhapsody/Yellow Box wird OpenSource?
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 98 17:34:12 +0100
> From: Carsten Brinkschulte <century@berlin.snafu.de>
> To: "Florian Cramer" <cantsin@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Herr Cramer,
> diese Nachrich kann ich NICHT bestaetigen. Ich denke, es waere auch eher Apples Aufgabe, eine
> solche Ankuendigung zu machen. Ich wuerde einen solchen Schritt zwar theoretisch fuer moeglich
> halten, ich habe jedoch KEINE Informationen ueber eine moegliche Freigabe des YellowBox/Rhapsody
> Quelltextes.
Das ist ja merkwuerdig. Ich habe mit mehreren Leuten gesprochen, die
am Donnerstag auch da waren, und sie haben die Ankuendigung so wie ich
verstanden. Vielleicht war er damit doch etwas zu voreilig.
Joerg
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: "yes, it will"
Date: 9 Nov 1998 14:29:05 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <726u7h$dkf$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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Das wollte ich euch nicht vorenthalten..
Aus der c.s.n.a:
"Greg Anderson" <greg@afs.com> wrote:
>Lemmy wrote in message <364366BF.44BC800A@tone.ca>...
>>That's all well and good Greg but while your doing these calculations
>>and postings, your not getting the OS/X version of PasteUp out, which
>>I've been waiting for for months and which you promised for the end of
>>Oct. Get with it!!!
>
>"And what operating system would you care to run it on?" he responded
>ironically.
>
>Greg
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: "yes, it will"
Date: 9 Nov 1998 15:16:58 GMT
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Nikolausi,
Du könntest einfach Quark Ausdrück oder den Seitenmacher auf MacOS 8.5
benutzen. Tja..hättest Du Dir mal nicht so 'ne proprietäre Hardware
gekauft, dann könntest Du jetzt mit Dem Standard(TM) arbeiten und hättest
keine Sorgen..
<evil grin>
Christian Neuss wrote:
> Das wollte ich euch nicht vorenthalten..
>
> Aus der c.s.n.a:
>
> "Greg Anderson" <greg@afs.com> wrote:
> >Lemmy wrote in message <364366BF.44BC800A@tone.ca>...
> >>That's all well and good Greg but while your doing these calculations
> >>and postings, your not getting the OS/X version of PasteUp out, which
> >>I've been waiting for for months and which you promised for the end of
> >>Oct. Get with it!!!
> >
> >"And what operating system would you care to run it on?" he responded
> >ironically.
> >
> >Greg
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: "yes, it will"
Date: 9 Nov 1998 17:56:52 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <727ad4$50f$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
>Nikolausi,
>
>Du könntest einfach Quark Ausdrück oder den Seitenmacher auf MacOS 8.5
>benutzen. Tja..hättest Du Dir mal nicht so 'ne proprietäre Hardware
>gekauft, dann könntest Du jetzt mit Dem Standard(TM) arbeiten und hättest
>keine Sorgen..
><evil grin>
Ja, Holgi.. wenn ich dich nicht haette - ohne deine troestenden
Worte waere ich sicherlich schon verzweifelt ob der herben
Enttaeuschungen :-)
Aber ganz sicher werde ich nicht mit 'Dem Standard' arbeiten -
gerade letzte Woche habe ich insgesamt acht Stunden damit
verloren, unter Windows ENTe eine CD zu brennen. MacOS saugt
vielleicht, aber wenigstens unterstützt das Dateisystem auch
Grossbuchstaben.
Nope, ich kauf mir Virtual PeeCee 2.1 und installier OPENSTEP
auf dem PowerBook - Tomi meint, mit 8.5 und VPC 2.1 koennte
man unter dem virtuellen OS ganz annehmlich arbeiten. Was fuer
Tomi gut genug ist, wird fuer mich schon lange gut genug sein :)
WO4 auf dem Laptop waere halt kultig gewesen.. :o)
Take care, Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.."
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.unix.programming,de.comp.os.unix.discussion
Subject: Re: MacOS X Server sourcecode
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:22:42 +0100
Organization: University of Bonn, Germany
Message-ID: <1di8wnb.16oyl1p1krj19uN@ascend-tk-p87.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
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Paul Seelig <pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de> wrote:
> > Apple veranstaltet momentan an verschiedenen Universitaeten sogenannte
> > "Apple technology days".
> >
> Okay, bitte Butter bei die Fische: In Bremen gibt es also solche
> Vortraege. Hast du da nicht noch einen "Tourneeplan"? Steht da
> vielleicht auch Mainz drauf?
Piddeschön!
Dirk
Apple lädt ein zu "Technology News" an ausgewählten Universitäten
Apple knüpft an die erfolgreiche Universitäts-Roadshow aus dem letzten
Jahr an. Vom 3. November bis zum 5. Dezember 1998 finden die "Apple
Technology News" an insgesamt 22 speziell ausgewählten Universitäten in
Deutschland, Österreich und der Schweiz statt.
Im Rahmen der "Technology News" stellt ein Apple-Experte ausführlich die
neuesten Technologien von Apple vor. Thematisiert werden das neue
Betriebssystem Mac OS 8.5 mit Ausblick auf Mac OS 10 Server, die
Einbindung des Macintosh in heterogene Netze am Beispiel von Apple Share
IP 6.0 sowie die aktuellen QuickTime-Entwicklungen.
Die aktuellen Veranstaltungsdaten der Technology News sind:
Leipzig, 16.11.98:
Universität Leipzig: 14.00-17.00 c.t., HS 17, Hörsaalgebäude 2. Etage
Frankfurt, 17.11.98:
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Kassel, 18.11.98:
Universität Gesamthochschule Kassel: 15.00-18.00, Hörsaal 1
Trier, 19.11.98:
Universität Trier: 16.00 c.t.-18.00, Hörsaal 4, Gebäude C
Heidelberg, 20.11.98:
Universität Heidelberg: 14.00-17.00, Großer Hörsaal der Physik
Alle anschließenden Termine können im Internet unter
www.apple.de/education/ nachgelesen oder bei Greenlee & Keil unter der
Telefonnummer 089-649063 0 oder per Email an Greenlee-Keil@t-online.de
nachgefragt werden. Ansprechpartnerin bei Apple Computer GmbH ist
Gertraud Unger: Email unger.g@euro.apple.com.
Bitte teilen Sie uns spätestens 3 Tage vor der Veranstaltung per email
unter unger.g@euro.apple.com mit, ob Sie an dieser Veranstaltung
teilnehmen wollen
Wir freuen uns über eine Rückantwort.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Gertraud Unger
Apple Computer Deutschland
--
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Video Problems with Vobis Notebook
Date: 10 Nov 1998 11:42:53 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <7298rt$t34$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <728tgb$nou$1@sunnews.cern.ch>
In de.comp.sys.next Wolfgang Lerche <lerche@nxth04.cern.ch> wrote:
: Hi,
: I am trying to install NS3.3 on a Vobis Notebook
: LeBook Advance. The basic install went fine, but
: the video does not work. The video chip is
: Chips+Tech 65550, and I was trying to use
: the driver from Deepspace Technologies,
: http://www.deepspacetech.com,
: that is supposed to work with that chipset.
: However, as soon as I switch from the
: standard VGA driver to the CHIPS65550 driver, the screen just gets
: blank; this for any, even the lowest screen resolution in b&w.
: Does anybody know what to do here
: (perhaps playing with memory ranges etc)?
On my Toshiba notebook with CT6555x, I sometimes get a blank
screen on startup. Using the Fn+F-something hotkey to switch video
modes between external, internal and both brings back
the picture.
HTH
Axel
--
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kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 62843137
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: lerche@nxth04.cern.ch (Wolfgang Lerche)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Video Problems with Vobis Notebook
Date: 10 Nov 1998 08:28:59 GMT
Organization: CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics
Message-ID: <728tgb$nou$1@sunnews.cern.ch>
Keywords: Chips+Tech 65550, Nextstep3.3
Hi,
I am trying to install NS3.3 on a Vobis Notebook
LeBook Advance. The basic install went fine, but
the video does not work. The video chip is
Chips+Tech 65550, and I was trying to use
the driver from Deepspace Technologies,
http://www.deepspacetech.com,
that is supposed to work with that chipset.
However, as soon as I switch from the
standard VGA driver to the CHIPS65550 driver, the screen just gets
blank; this for any, even the lowest screen resolution in b&w.
Does anybody know what to do here
(perhaps playing with memory ranges etc)?
Thanks,
W. Lerche
Theoretical Physics Div
CERN
From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.unix.programming,de.comp.os.unix.discussion
Subject: Re: MacOS X Server sourcecode
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.os.unix.programming,de.comp.os.unix.discussion
Date: 7 Nov 1998 21:45:49 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
Message-ID: <722f2d$965$1@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de>
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Paul Seelig (pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de) wrote:
> Okay, bitte Butter bei die Fische: In Bremen gibt es also solche
> Vortraege. Hast du da nicht noch einen "Tourneeplan"? Steht da
> vielleicht auch Mainz drauf?
Naeheres unter
http://www.apple.de/_apple/_presse/PR-Infos1998/Oktober/unidays.html
> Hmm, das wuerde ich ja ganz gern mal irgendwo schriftlich sehen. Wer
> hat das denn gesagt? Kannst du den Namen herausfinden?
Den betreffenden Vortrag hat Carsten Brinkschulte (oder so aehnlich)
gehalten, Programmierer des Mac-Programms ClockWork. Er sagte, er kann
diese Ankuendigung offiziell im Namen von Apple machen.
Joerg
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From: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de (Jochen Richter)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Video Problems with Vobis Notebook
Date: 10 Nov 1998 17:51:04 GMT
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lerche@nxth04.cern.ch (Wolfgang Lerche) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to install NS3.3 on a Vobis Notebook
> LeBook Advance. The basic install went fine, but
> the video does not work. The video chip is
> Chips+Tech 65550, and I was trying to use
> the driver from Deepspace Technologies,
> http://www.deepspacetech.com,
> that is supposed to work with that chipset.
> However, as soon as I switch from the
> standard VGA driver to the CHIPS65550 driver, the screen just gets
> blank; this for any, even the lowest screen resolution in b&w.
> Does anybody know what to do here
> (perhaps playing with memory ranges etc)?
>
> Thanks,
> W. Lerche
> Theoretical Physics Div
> CERN
Das Advance laeuft mit dem Bifrost Treiber, der fuer Privatleute sogar
kostenlos ist.
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From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Video Problems with Vobis Notebook
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:42:06 +0000
Organization: Forsee with Style
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The 6555x chips are quite nice from a driver point of view, since all
the LCD timing is separate from the other timings, mmm, if the hot key
screen switch does restore your display, then some parameter has been
miss-set in the driver.
What size LCD do you have, I think the driver is setup for 1024x768, but
you can change this in expert settings or edit the .table in the driver
.config bundle(, their may be a bug that stops this working).
I've got your e-mail form DST, and will retrive the driver source from
archive some time this week.
Axel Habermann wrote:
>
> In de.comp.sys.next Wolfgang Lerche <lerche@nxth04.cern.ch> wrote:
> : Hi,
>
> : I am trying to install NS3.3 on a Vobis Notebook
> : LeBook Advance. The basic install went fine, but
> : the video does not work. The video chip is
> : Chips+Tech 65550, and I was trying to use
> : the driver from Deepspace Technologies,
> : http://www.deepspacetech.com,
> : that is supposed to work with that chipset.
> : However, as soon as I switch from the
> : standard VGA driver to the CHIPS65550 driver, the screen just gets
> : blank; this for any, even the lowest screen resolution in b&w.
> : Does anybody know what to do here
> : (perhaps playing with memory ranges etc)?
>
> On my Toshiba notebook with CT6555x, I sometimes get a blank
> screen on startup. Using the Fn+F-something hotkey to switch video
> modes between external, internal and both brings back
> the picture.
>
> HTH
>
> Axel
>
> --
> Axel Habermann
> kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 62843137
>
> Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
> haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
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From: lerche@nxth04.cern.ch (Wolfgang Lerche)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Video Problems with Vobis Notebook
Date: 11 Nov 1998 08:10:17 GMT
Organization: CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics
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> >
> > In de.comp.sys.next Wolfgang Lerche <lerche at nxth04.cern.ch> wrote:
> > : I am trying to install NS3.3 on a Vobis Notebook
> > : LeBook Advance. The basic install went fine, but
> > : the video does not work. The video chip is
> > : Chips+Tech 65550, and I was trying to use
> > : the driver from Deepspace Technologies,
> > : http://www.deepspacetech.com,
> > : that is supposed to work with that chipset.
> > : However, as soon as I switch from the
> > : standard VGA driver to the CHIPS65550 driver, the screen just gets
> > : blank; this for any, even the lowest screen resolution in b&w.
> > : Does anybody know what to do here
> > : (perhaps playing with memory ranges etc)?
> >
>
Thanks for the various replies !
In fact the problem is now solved, but I don't really
understand why. I was installing the latest PCIC
driver (3.34) to be able to access the 3com Etherlink III card,
and after that I was reinstalling the CHIPS65550 driver - and
voila, it suddenly worked !
All works fine now with NS 3.3 on the Vobis LeBook Advance.
Regards,
WL
From: scholz@munich.object-factory.com (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Mail
Date: 11 Nov 1998 10:29:40 GMT
Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie
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juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) wrote:
>
>Nach welchem Datum wird denn dann sortiert? Es sind ja verschiedene im
>eader.
>
Siehe Mail.app -> Info -> Hilfe ... -> Referenz -> Befehle, Schalter ...
Kurz: Du kannst nach Absendedatum oder Eingangsdatum sortieren.
>Ausserdem scheint mir das nicht die Default-Einstellung zu sein. Kann man
>n das irgendwo als Default festlegen?
>
Tja, stimmt wohl. Man kann es nicht voreinstellen. Zumindest nicht unter
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. Vielleicht wäre das ein neuer Feature-Vorschlag
für Enhance-Mail. Anyway: mach Dir ein Tastaturkürzel (mit Preferences)
und schalt halt dann per Tastatur kurz um.
Viele Grüße,
Bernhard.
From: scholz@munich.object-factory.com (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT shell 8 bit clean bekommen?
Date: 11 Nov 1998 10:31:17 GMT
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mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) wrote:
>In <71pj9d$590$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Georg Schwarz wrote:
>> Ich habe hier eine Maschine mit NeXT OS 3.3. Wenn ich per ssh als me von
>> außen reingehe, ist die Shell (/bin/csh) nicht 8 bit clean,
>
>Deswegen nimmt man eine vernünftige Shell, z.B. zsh. Die kann das und ist
auf
>den üblichen ftp-Servern als Source und Package zu finden.
Die Antwort war wohl ein Schnellschuß, denn für die ssh gibt es keinen
Ersatz, oder beherrscht die zsh mittlerweile Verschlüsselung?
Grüße,
Bernhard.
From: scholz@munich.object-factory.com (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OGOTT!NEIN!WorkspaceManager startet nicht!
Date: 11 Nov 1998 10:36:20 GMT
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John Smith <jsmth@company.com> wrote:
>Ich denke es wird wieder irgendsoeine Lapalie sein und dafür
>entschuldige ich mich, aber leider weiß ich auch nicht wo man
>Informationen bekommt um sich ein bißchen WISSEN anzueignen, um nicht
>jedesmal fragen zu müssen, wenn es Probleme gibt. Wenn jemand mir dazu
>was sagen könnte, wäre es auch super!!!
>
Das Problem liegt im Backspace Modul, das Du ausprobiert hast. Es
funktioniert wohl leider nicht und blockiert den Rechner. Da die
Backspace Module auch über den "normalen" Abdunklungsmodus aktiviert
wird, den Preferences verwendet, siehst Du da jetzt alt aus.
Du bekommst ein jungfreuliches System, wenn Du bspw. im Single-User
Modus bootest (boot: -s) und danach in Deinem Home-Verzeichnis
das Verzeichnis .NeXT bzw. .OpenStep umbenennst (*.bak oder so). Danach
sind erstmal alle Einstellungen verloren, aber Du kannst wieder arbeiten.
Danach kannst Du Applikationseigene Einstellunge aus dem .NeXT Verzeichnis
wieder rückkopieren. Alternativ kann man evtl. auch die die default
database verwenden (denke ich).
Viele Grüße,
Bernhard.
From: scholz@munich.object-factory.com (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Openstep auf Partition am Plattenende bei 5GB-Platte und W95
Date: 11 Nov 1998 10:41:51 GMT
Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie
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Michael Franke wrote:
>Hallo zusammen,
>wir haben hier einen IDE-Rechner mit 5 GB Platte. Erste Partition 4420 MB
mit
>Windows95 (tschuldigung, aber aus bestimmten Gruenden brauchen wir das). Auf
>die zweite Partition (die restlichen 580 MB) wollten wir Openstep
>installieren, was aber nicht funktionierte. Openstep erkennt diese Partition
>korrekt, bricht aber dann mit der Meldung ab, dass die Platte nicht
>formatiert werden koennte.
>Hat jemand eine Idee woran das liegen koennte? bzw. gibts einen Trick wie
man
>OS auf diese Partition kriegt?
>Folgendes haben wir schon ausprobiert:
>
Das ist kein Fehler von OPENSTEP. Jedes Betriebssystem unter PCs hat
dieses Problem. _ALLE_ Bootpartitionen _müssen_ innerhalb der ersten
4 GB Plattenplatz liegen, und es darf nur maximal 4 davon geben.
Ok, formatieren koennte OpenStep die Partition eigtl. schon, es versucht
aber eben eine bootbare Partition zu erzeugen und das geht halt nicht.
Tja, that's Intel/BIOS/PC-weirdness. Es würde noch nichtmal funktionieren
auf die letzten 580MB WindowsNT zu installieren. Das installiert sich
zwar, bootet aber nicht :)) (selbst ausprobiert)
Viele Grüße,
Bernhard.
From: moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Möllney)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OS 4.2 intel mit Cyrix MII / IBM 6x86 MX
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In der letzten c't ist ein Bericht ueber einen leichten Upgrade auf einen MII
300 ...
Der alte Cyrix Vorgaenger tat es ja nicht bei Omniweb und so. hat es einer
mit dem neuen
MII 300 getestet?
Bis dann, Michael
--
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57068 Siegen
Tel: +49-271-740-4724
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E-Mail: moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT shell 8 bit clean bekommen?
Date: 7 Nov 1998 19:44:15 GMT
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In <71pj9d$590$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Georg Schwarz wrote:
> Ich habe hier eine Maschine mit NeXT OS 3.3. Wenn ich per ssh als me von
> außen reingehe, ist die Shell (/bin/csh) nicht 8 bit clean,
Deswegen nimmt man eine vernünftige Shell, z.B. zsh. Die kann das und ist auf
den üblichen ftp-Servern als Source und Package zu finden.
Gruß,
Markus
---
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From: ernst42@usa.net (Ernst K. Locker)
Subject: Re: Video Problems with Vobis Notebook
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:56:34 GMT
In article <3648C13E.ED6E577F@forsee.tcp.co.uk>, bobbyr@forsee.tcp.co.uk wrote:
>I've got your e-mail form DST, and will retrive the driver source from
>archive some time this week.
Source ?
I thought you were talking about a commercial driver from DeespaceTech.
Is there another CT 65555 driver which is freely available ?
--
Ernst K. Locker
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From: sales@deepspacetech.com (DeepSpace Technologies)
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:34:59 GMT
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Video Problems with Vobis Notebook
Date: 12 Nov 1998 22:34:07 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <72fnov$ai$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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In de.comp.sys.next Ernst K. Locker <ernst42@usa.net> wrote:
: In article <3648C13E.ED6E577F@forsee.tcp.co.uk>, bobbyr@forsee.tcp.co.uk wrote:
: >I've got your e-mail form DST, and will retrive the driver source from
: >archive some time this week.
: Source ?
: I thought you were talking about a commercial driver from DeespaceTech.
: Is there another CT 65555 driver which is freely available ?
The driver I know of (and use) is the one from bifrostworks.
Is it the same as the one from deepspacetech or is it another?
Axel
P.S.: Eigentlich bin ich ja strikt gegen die Verwendung
von Englisch in einer deutschen NG. Also hier das ganze
nochmal auf Deutsch:
Es geht um einen Video-Treiber fuer Notebooks, genauer um einen
Treiber fuer die CT6555x-Serie von Chips&Technologies.
Es scheint zwei zu geben. Einen von Deepspace TEchnologies und
einen von Bifrost Workstations. Ob die die gleichen sind?
Ausserdem ist die Frage, ob der von Deepspace-Tech im Quellcode
und/oder frei verfuegbar ist.
--
Axel Habermann
kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 62843137
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
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From: daniel@talisker.ping.de (Daniel Brede)
Subject: 7
Message-ID: <F2ByMz.y1@talisker.ping.de>
Sender: daniel@talisker.ping.de (Daniel Brede)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:32:58 GMT
7
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXT shell 8 bit clean bekommen?
Date: 12 Nov 1998 18:09:22 GMT
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <72f88i$img$2@marsu.navigator.de>
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In <72bp1l$v94$2@ns.munich.object-factory.com> Bernhard Scholz wrote:
> mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) wrote:
> >In <71pj9d$590$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Georg Schwarz wrote:
> >> Ich habe hier eine Maschine mit NeXT OS 3.3. Wenn ich per ssh als me von
> >> außen reingehe, ist die Shell (/bin/csh) nicht 8 bit clean,
> >
> >Deswegen nimmt man eine vernünftige Shell, z.B. zsh. Die kann das und ist
> auf
> >den üblichen ftp-Servern als Source und Package zu finden.
>
> Die Antwort war wohl ein Schnellschuß, denn für die ssh gibt es keinen
> Ersatz, oder beherrscht die zsh mittlerweile Verschlüsselung?
>
Vielleicht war Deine Antwort auch ein Schnellschuß, den die ssh ist 8 bit
clean, so daß das Problem mit der login shell (csh) zu tun haben muß. Wenn
ich mich von zsh über ssh zu zsh verbinde, habe ich kein Problem mit dem
achten Bit:
mow@marsu % ssh marsu
mow@marsu's password:
Last login: Thu Nov 12 07:56:45 1998 from tabby
Navigator welcomes you.
No mail.
mow@marsu % äöü
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From: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de (Jochen Richter)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Video Problems with Vobis Notebook
Date: 13 Nov 1998 07:31:17 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe
Message-ID: <72gn85$big$1@news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
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Der Bifrost Treiber unterstuetzt nur bis C&T65554. Will man den wesentlich
schnelleren C&T65555 nutzen, muss man den kommerziellen Deepspace Treiber
kaufen (trotzdem ein Schnaeppchen; laeuft problemlos und performant).
--
Jochen Richter
SYSTEM analyse design entwicklung (S.a.d.e.)
Akademiestrasse 16 Phone: +49-721-9 20 30 90
D-76133 Karlsruhe Fax: +49-721-9 20 30 99
Germany e-mail: jr@Sade.schiele-ct.de
From: "Dinu C. Gherman" <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:00:48 +0100
Organization: Individual Network Berlin e.V.
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Christian Neuss wrote:
>
> Tja, warten wir ab, ob und wann 4.0 erscheint, das koennte alles
> noch ganz spannend werden. :-)
Es sei mir mal eine ketzerische Frage erlaubt, ja? ;-)
"Und wenn nicht?"
Dann gibt es gottlob eine Web-Development-Alternative in OpenSource-
Manier mit Quellcode und einer offenen community, die sich nicht hin-
ter NDAs verstecken muss, weil sie nicht nur an ach so mission-critical
Applikationen (gibt's den Terminus noch?) in geheimen Bueros arbeitet.
Seit kurzem als OpenSource-Variante verfuegbar: Digital Creations'
Bobo/Principia, siehe:
http://www.digicool.com
http://www.digicool.com/site/Bobo/Community
So viel Spass muss sein! ;-)
Dinu
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From: ernst42@usa.net (Ernst K. Locker)
Subject: Re: Video Problems with Vobis Notebook
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 20:54:53 GMT
In article <72fnov$ai$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>, Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>Es geht um einen Video-Treiber fuer Notebooks, genauer um einen
>Treiber fuer die CT6555x-Serie von Chips&Technologies.
>
>Es scheint zwei zu geben. Einen von Deepspace TEchnologies und
>einen von Bifrost Workstations. Ob die die gleichen sind?
>
>Ausserdem ist die Frage, ob der von Deepspace-Tech im Quellcode
>und/oder frei verfuegbar ist.
Keine Ahnung. Aber vielen Dank fuer den Tip mit Bifrost. Den Treiber habe ich
mir gestern geladen, jetzt brauche ich nur noch eine 2. Festplatte, dann kann
ich endlich mal ein vernuenftiges Betriebssystem auf dem LeAdvance laufen
lassen.
Hat bei dir die Installation eigentlich gut geklappt, mit Floppy am
Parallelport ?
Funktioniert auch eine externe PS/2 - Maus ?
(Unter NT hat das hier naemlich nicht richtig funktioniert bis zur
Installation von SP3).
(Posted & Mailed)
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From: "Markus Vollmert" <uzssuz@uni-bonn.de>
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Subject: ns3.3 with speed dragon?
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:28:31 +0100
Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany)
Message-ID: <72ibuh$mq4@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
hi
ich benutze NS3.3 auf einem intel-rechner. bisher habe ich ein usr sportster
modem benutzt, das habe ich auch nach einiger zeit mit ppp usw. zum laufen
gebracht.
jetzt bin ich auf isdn (moment, jetzt bitte nicht direkt: next und isdn geht
nicht) umgestiegen und habe folgendes problem:
ich habe die hagenuk databox speeddragon-tk-anlage. die hat nämlich den
vorteil, daß man sie ohne capi wie ein ganz normales modem über serielle
schnittstelle mit at-befehlen steuern kann. unter dos funktioniert das auch,
aber unter next bekomme ich einfach keine antwort vom modem. mit dem orginal
seriellen treiber bekomme ich im kermit mit folgenden einstellungen keine
response:
# using "serial port" driver v3.30
garfield> kermit
C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96, for NeXTSTEP
Copyright (C) 1985, 1996,
Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York.
Default file-transfer mode is TEXT
Type ? or HELP for help.
[/root] C-Kermit>set line /dev/cua
[/root] C-Kermit>set modem type hayes-high-speed
[/root] C-Kermit>show communications
Communications Parameters:
Line: /dev/cua, speed: 9600, mode: local, modem: hayes-high-speed
Terminal bits: 7, parity: none, duplex: full, flow: xon/xoff, handshake:
none
Carrier: auto, lockfile: /usr/spool/uucp/LCK/LCK..cua
Escape character: 29 (^])
Carrier Detect (CD): Off
Dataset Ready (DSR): Off
Clear To Send (CTS): On
Ring Indicator (RI): Off
Data Terminal Ready (DTR): On
Request To Send (RTS): On
Type SHOW DIAL to see DIAL-related items
[/root] C-Kermit>show dial
Line: /dev/cua, Modem type: hayes-high-speed, speed: 9600, carrier: auto
Dial status: -1
Dial directory: (none)
Dial method: default Dial sort: on
Dial hangup: on Dial display: off
Dial retries: 0 Dial interval: 10
Dial timeout: 0 (auto) Redial number: (none)
Dial confirmation: off Dial convert-directory: ask
Dial prefix: (none)
Dial suffix: (none)
Dial country-code: (none) Dial connect: auto verbose
Dial area-code: (none) Dial restrict: none
Dial ld-prefix: (none)
Dial ld-suffix: (none)
Dial intl-prefix: (none)
Dial intl-suffix: (none)
Dial toll-free-area-code: (none)
Dial toll-free-prefix: (none)
Dial pbx-exchange: (none)
Dial pbx-internal-prefix: (none)
Dial pbx-outside-prefix: (none)
Type SHOW MODEM to see modem settings.
Type SHOW COMMUNICATIONS to see modem signals.
[/root] C-Kermit>show modem
Line: /dev/cua, Modem type: hayes-high-speed
Hayes Accura
Modem carrier-watch: auto
Modem capabilities: AT SB EC DC HWFC SWFC
Modem maximum-speed: 115200 bps
Modem error-correction: on
Modem compression: on
Modem speed-matching: off (interface speed is locked)
Modem flow-control: auto
Modem kermit-spoof: off
Modem escape-character: 43 (= "+")
MODEM COMMANDs (* = set automatically by SET MODEM TYPE):
* Init-string: ATQ0X4N1Y0S37=0S82=128\{13}
* Dial-mode-string: (none)
* Dial-mode-prompt: (none)
* Dial-command: ATD%s\{13}
* Compression on: ATS46=2\{13}
* Compression off: ATS46=0\{13}
* Error-correction on: AT&Q5S36=7S48=7\{13}
* Error-correction off: AT&Q0\{13}
* Autoanswer on: ATS0=1\{13}
* Autoanswer off: ATS0=0\{13}
* Hangup-command: ATQ0H0\{13}
* Hardware-flow: AT&K3\{13}
* Software-flow: AT&K4\{13}
* No-flow-control: AT&K0\{13}
* Pulse: ATP\{13}
* Tone: ATT\{13}
For more info: SHOW DIAL and SHOW COMMUNICATIONS
[/root] C-Kermit>connect
Connecting to /dev/cua, speed 9600.
The escape character is Ctrl-] (ASCII 29, GS)
Type the escape character followed by C to get back,
or followed by ? to see other options.
(Back at garfield)
[/root] C-Kermit>
der serielle port a stimmt, hayes befehlssatz stimmt auch. ich habe auch
schon mit den paritäten und den duplex modi rumgespielt, hatte aber nirgends
erfolg. das modem gibt keine antwort. (oder ist kermit falsch eingestellt?)
zum schluß habe ich mir den neuen seriellen treiber (v3.33) besorgt, doch
damit bekomme ich noch nicht mal eine verbindung zum port hin:
# using "serial port" driver v3.33
garfield> kermit
C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96, for NeXTSTEP
Copyright (C) 1985, 1996,
Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York.
Default file-transfer mode is TEXT
Type ? or HELP for help.
[/root] C-Kermit>set line /dev/cua
/dev/cua is not a terminal device
Sorry, can't open connection: /dev/cua
[/root] C-Kermit>
in div. linux newsgroups stand zu dem thema zwar auch schon was, hat mir
aber auch nicht weitergeholfen (ging meistens so: sprich das ding im kermit
mit at-befehlen an ...)
bis dann
markus
uzssuz@uni-bonn.de
From: eberl@ip-service.com (Dr. Werner Eberl)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: MIDI
Date: 13 Nov 1998 09:23:57 GMT
Organization: IP-Service
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Hallo beisammen,
Folgender Wunsch: hier sind ein paar NeXTs, tausende Midi-Files und ein
GM-Synthesizer. Ich haette das jetzt gerne so, dass mir die NeXT die
Midi-Files vorspielt. Am besten mit einer Kommandozeilenversion:
midiplay blabla.mid >/dev/midi
Ich brauche also wohl ein Programm, das mir die Noten auf dem seriellen Port
ausgibt und dann noch eine Hardware, die den seriellen Port zum Midi-Ausgang
macht.
Hat einer von Euch sowas schon zum Laufen bekommen?
Any hints welcome,
Werner
From: Helge Hess <hh@mdlink.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 01:49:45 +0100
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Dinu C. Gherman wrote:
> Christian Neuss wrote:
> >
> > Tja, warten wir ab, ob und wann 4.0 erscheint, das koennte alles
> > noch ganz spannend werden. :-)
Was ist an 4.0 so spannend ? Vor kurzen hat in der WO Mailing Liste ein
Apple Mensch die WebObjects Release Notes gepostet, die einzige
wesentliche Erweiterung scheint MultiThreading zu sein. Das war sowieso
schon seit langem faellig.
> Es sei mir mal eine ketzerische Frage erlaubt, ja? ;-)
>
> "Und wenn nicht?"
Dann baut man sich in 1 Woche sein eigenes WebObjects. Wir haben zB
unser eigenes, das auf libFoundation und gdl basiert. WebObjects selber
besteht aus ca 10 Klassen die wirklich irgendwas tun, der Rest sind
Hack-Tools (ProjectBuilder, WO Builder) und Templates. Das ganze WO lebt
mehr oder weniger von Foundation und EOF, die auch frei verfuegbar sind.
Das Innovative an WO ist sicher nicht die Implementation, sondern die
Ausarbeitung der Idee die dahinter steckt. Gekoppelt mit zB EOF wird
dann halt ein netter Application Server daraus.
> Dann gibt es gottlob eine Web-Development-Alternative in OpenSource-
> Manier mit Quellcode und einer offenen community, die sich nicht hin-
> ter NDAs verstecken muss, weil sie nicht nur an ach so mission-critical
> Applikationen (gibt's den Terminus noch?) in geheimen Bueros arbeitet.
>
> Seit kurzem als OpenSource-Variante verfuegbar: Digital Creations'
> Bobo/Principia, siehe:
Na toll, Python .. Es gibt zu Hauf Web-Development Platformen, der
Hauptvorteil IMHO von WO ist, dass es in ObjC und nicht in Python oder
sonst einer abgefahrenen Sprache ist.
Tschaui
Helge
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From: ergo@camelot.in-berlin.de (Olaf Foellinger)
Subject: Re: ns3.3 with speed dragon?
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In <72ibuh$mq4@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> "Markus Vollmert" wrote:
> [Beschreibung der ISN-Probleme gelöscht]
> zum schluß habe ich mir den neuen seriellen treiber (v3.33) besorgt, doch
> damit bekomme ich noch nicht mal eine verbindung zum port hin:
Zu dem neuen seriellen Treiber muß imer auch der TTY-Port-Treiber installiert
werden, hast Du das berücksichtigt ?
Gruß Olaf
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
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Subject: Re: ns3.3 with speed dragon?
Date: 14 Nov 1998 12:42:47 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Markus Vollmert <uzssuz@uni-bonn.de> wrote:
: hi
: [/root] C-Kermit>set line /dev/cua
/dev/cufa benutzt hardware-flow-control. Wenn dein Dragon das erwartet,
kann es sein, dass es mit /dev/cua nicht geht. Besser ist es sowieso.
Voraussetzung: das richtigte Kabel, aber das hast Du ja, oder?
HTH
Axel
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From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Video Problems with Vobis Notebook
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:58:55 +0000
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For archive, read my backup diskettes.
"Ernst K. Locker" wrote:
>
> In article <3648C13E.ED6E577F@forsee.tcp.co.uk>, bobbyr@forsee.tcp.co.uk wrote:
> >I've got your e-mail form DST, and will retrive the driver source from
> >archive some time this week.
>
> Source ?
>
> I thought you were talking about a commercial driver from DeespaceTech.
>
> Is there another CT 65555 driver which is freely available ?
>
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From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: OS 4.2 & NT
Date: 17 Nov 1998 13:57:17 GMT
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Gibt es die Möglichkeit, auf die NTFS - Partition einer internen Festplatte
zuzugreifen?
OS 4.2 meldet immer nut Disk unreadable und schkägt eine Formatierung
vor....
Alex
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Helge Hess wrote:
>
> Dinu C. Gherman wrote:
> > Christian Neuss wrote:
> > >
> > > Tja, warten wir ab, ob und wann 4.0 erscheint, das koennte alles
> > > noch ganz spannend werden. :-)
>
> Was ist an 4.0 so spannend ? Vor kurzen hat in der WO Mailing Liste ein
> Apple Mensch die WebObjects Release Notes gepostet, die einzige
> wesentliche Erweiterung scheint MultiThreading zu sein. Das war sowieso
> schon seit langem faellig.
Schoen, und in der neuesten NTY liest man, dass man nun auch Methoden
zum setzen und lesen von Cookies haben wird! Das hat also bis release
4.0 auf sich warten lassen, ja? Interessant. Da moechte man eigentlich
nicht weiter fragen, was jetzt noch fehlt, oder? Ja ja, ich weiss, so
schlecht ist es auch wieder nicht... Aber wieso ist es offensichtlich
nicht trivial, sondern bedarf einer eigenen "WOF-Komponente", um z.B.
eine simple Email aus einer WOF-App zu verschicken? Und was hat dieses
Problem ueberhaupt mit WOF zu tun?
> > Seit kurzem als OpenSource-Variante verfuegbar: Digital Creations'
> > Bobo/Principia, siehe:
>
> Na toll, Python .. Es gibt zu Hauf Web-Development Platformen, der
> Hauptvorteil IMHO von WO ist, dass es in ObjC und nicht in Python oder
> sonst einer abgefahrenen Sprache ist.
Nun ja, das sollte kein Thread ueber Python werden, aber wer denkt,
Python sei "abgefahren", der sollte sich die Sprache mal ein wenig
besser anschauen. Meine VPC site, die sich gerade noch etwas ent-
wickelt besteht im Moment aus ca. 1000 Zeilen code (www.prom.org/vpc).
Ausserdem ist keine mir bekannte (brauchbare) Web-Dev-Plattform im
source code verfuegbar, oder etwa doch?
Wirklich abgefahren daran finde ich hoechstens, dass man portablen code
schreiben kann, der nicht nur wie einige meinen wie bei ObjC auf "ver-
schiedenen" Plattformen laeuft (die Beantwortung der Frage "welche?"
haengt dabei offenbar von der Luftfeuchtigkeit in Apple's Marketing-
Abteilung ab), sondern der unter "allen" Plattformen laeuft: von WinCE
(ja, Mist, ich weiss) bis zu einer Cray T3D.
Oder dass man damit eine komplette SQL engine gebaut hat, oder ...
... seufz,
Dinu
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"Dinu C. Gherman" wrote:
> Schoen, und in der neuesten NTY liest man, dass man nun auch Methoden
> zum setzen und lesen von Cookies haben wird! Das hat also bis release
> 4.0 auf sich warten lassen, ja? Interessant.
Cookies konnte man schon immer ueber die entsprechenden HTTP Header
setzen/holen. Wichtiger finde ich da schon das Feature Session-IDs in
Cookies zu halten.
> Da moechte man eigentlich
> nicht weiter fragen, was jetzt noch fehlt, oder?
Frag doch, das oben genannte fehlte jedenfalls nicht (und fehlte noch
nie !).
> Ja ja, ich weiss, so
> schlecht ist es auch wieder nicht... Aber wieso ist es offensichtlich
> nicht trivial, sondern bedarf einer eigenen "WOF-Komponente", um z.B.
> eine simple Email aus einer WOF-App zu verschicken? Und was hat dieses
> Problem ueberhaupt mit WOF zu tun?
Hm, ich weiss hier eigentlich nicht worauf du hinaus moechtest. Cookies
konnte man schon immer setzen (via setHeader:..) und die WOComponenten
sind nur dazu da, das ganze auch fuer Anfaenger einfach zu mmachen.
Du hast in WO eigentlich den Zugriff auf so ziemlich alles was den HTTP
Zyklus angeht.
Aequivalent ist es mit dem Email Zeugs. Es gab schon immer
verschiedenste Moeglichkeiten Emails zu versenden und der genannte
Komponent/Klasse ist nur ein Weg um es fuer die Leute einfacher zu
machen. Da es wohl ein weitverbreiteter Wunsch ist, von WO Apps aus
emails zu verschicken, haben die Apple Leute eben eine entsprechende
Klasse beigelegt.
> > > Seit kurzem als OpenSource-Variante verfuegbar: Digital Creations'
> > > Bobo/Principia, siehe:
> > Na toll, Python .. Es gibt zu Hauf Web-Development Platformen, der
> > Hauptvorteil IMHO von WO ist, dass es in ObjC und nicht in Python oder
> > sonst einer abgefahrenen Sprache ist.
>
> Nun ja, das sollte kein Thread ueber Python werden, aber wer denkt,
> Python sei "abgefahren", der sollte sich die Sprache mal ein wenig
> besser anschauen. Meine VPC site, die sich gerade noch etwas ent-
> wickelt besteht im Moment aus ca. 1000 Zeilen code (www.prom.org/vpc).
Es gibt 100000 verschiedene Sprachen die technologisch sicher akzeptabel
sind, meinetwegen auch Python, was aber nicht's zur Sache tut, da WO
nunmal in ObjC/Java ist.
Die Vorteile von Objective-C schlagen sich direkt in WebObjects nieder
und ist ein Grund warum viele Leute gerade WO gut finden und nicht
BaBo-Zeug.
> Ausserdem ist keine mir bekannte (brauchbare) Web-Dev-Plattform im
> source code verfuegbar, oder etwa doch?
Kommt drauf an, was du als Web-Dev Platform bezeichnest. Freie CGI
Wrapper gibt's jedenfalls in unterschiedlicher Komplexitaet wie Sand am
mehr. Sind nicht zB diese komischen JavaServerPages auch kostenfrei ?
> Wirklich abgefahren daran finde ich hoechstens, dass man portablen code
> schreiben kann, der nicht nur wie einige meinen wie bei ObjC auf "ver-
> schiedenen" Plattformen laeuft (die Beantwortung der Frage "welche?"
> haengt dabei offenbar von der Luftfeuchtigkeit in Apple's Marketing-
> Abteilung ab), sondern der unter "allen" Plattformen laeuft: von WinCE
> (ja, Mist, ich weiss) bis zu einer Cray T3D.
Es gibt Objective-C, Foundation und EOF als GNU Software. ObjC ist
fester Bestandteil von gcc welcher ebenfalls fuer einen sehr grossen
Teil von Platformen verfuegbar ist. Mit Apple-Marketing hat das
jedenfalls nix zu tun.
Ein WebObjects auf WinCE oder Cray T3D brauche ich jedenfalls nicht und
duerfte wohl unter 'extrem-abgefahren' laufen.
> Oder dass man damit eine komplette SQL engine gebaut hat, oder ...
Ich wuerde meinen, das soetwas ein jeder ProgSprach-Designer als
Uebungsaufgabe durchfuehren kann. Es gibt bestimmt auch SQL engines in
Eiffel, Sather, Lisp, Smalltalk, ... Es ist zB auch recht ueblich die
Sprache in sich selber zu implementieren, um ihre Leistungsfaehigkeit zu
zeigen.
Du kannst ruhig Python als Sprache benutzen, wenn du damit zurechtkommst
und es schoener findest. Der Grossteil der Anwender in dieser Newsgruppe
duerfte aber eher dem ObjC oder vieleicht noch Java angetan sein ..
WebObjects ist jedenfalls ganz gut und es muss sich da erst noch ein
Feature finden, dass man hier nicht auch irgendwie hingebogen bekommt.
Hinbiegen und Integrieren ist eine der ObjC/WO Staerken.
Tschaui
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From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:49:54 +0100
Organization: University of Bonn, Germany
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Helge Hess <hh@mdlink.de> wrote:
> > > Tja, warten wir ab, ob und wann 4.0 erscheint, das koennte alles
> > > noch ganz spannend werden. :-)
>
> Was ist an 4.0 so spannend ? Vor kurzen hat in der WO Mailing Liste ein
> Apple Mensch die WebObjects Release Notes gepostet, die einzige
> wesentliche Erweiterung scheint MultiThreading zu sein. Das war sowieso
> schon seit langem faellig.
Also ich hab's mir auf der Macworld angesehen und mir die neuen Wizards
zeigen lassen (von Tomi Engel), die es erlauben, nib-basierte Dialoge
direkt in Swing-Applets zu konvertieren. Und das Beste: Die sahen sogar
richtig gut aus!! Fand' ich schon ziemlich cool...
Gruß
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From: Helge Hess <hh@mdlink.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 01:20:21 +0100
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Dirk Theisen wrote:
> Helge Hess <hh@mdlink.de> wrote:
>
> > > > Tja, warten wir ab, ob und wann 4.0 erscheint, das koennte alles
> > > > noch ganz spannend werden. :-)
> >
> > Was ist an 4.0 so spannend ? Vor kurzen hat in der WO Mailing Liste ein
> > Apple Mensch die WebObjects Release Notes gepostet, die einzige
> > wesentliche Erweiterung scheint MultiThreading zu sein. Das war sowieso
> > schon seit langem faellig.
>
> Also ich hab's mir auf der Macworld angesehen und mir die neuen Wizards
> zeigen lassen (von Tomi Engel), die es erlauben, nib-basierte Dialoge
> direkt in Swing-Applets zu konvertieren. Und das Beste: Die sahen sogar
> richtig gut aus!! Fand' ich schon ziemlich cool...
Laeuft das dann unter WebObjects oder unter YellowBox ? Gibt es dann
auch eine InterfaceBuilder zu WO dazu ?
In den ReleaseNotes von WO4, die in der WebObjects Mailing Liste
gepostet wurden, war jedenfalls nix von so etwas zu lesen und ich
vermute eher, dass das nicht zu WO gehoert .. wie auch immer, schoen
waehre es ja.
Tschaui
Helge
From: Nils Hott <soz96hxw@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: YellowBox/Rhapsoy als Quellcode?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:40:30 +0100
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Halloele,
kurzer Rueckblick fuer die Macianer: Vor einer Woche wurde in
de.comp.sys.next das Geruecht diskutiert, dass Apple angekuendigt habe,
Rhapsody bzw. die YellowBox als Quellcode freizugeben.
Das ganze Drama endete damit, dass Carsten Brinkschulte, von dem das ganze
waehrend des Apple Technology Days in Bremen in die Welt gesetzt worden
war, ein oeffentliches Dementi geposted hat.
Vgl.: <726kps$hub$1@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de>
Waere auch zu schoen gewesen, dachten wir uns.
Ich war heute in Leipzig zum Apple Technology Day.
Sagen wir einfach, das Geruecht wurde dort wiederholt. Ich werde mich
hueten, zu sagen von wem. Und ich werde auch nicht reagieren, falls jemand
im Laufe dieses Threads richtig raten sollte (soviel vielleicht doch: es
war nicht Carsten Brinkschulte... :-).
Ich habe mich nach der Veranstaltung mit dem Menschen noch unterhalten.
Und obwohl ich nicht zu denjenigen gehoere, die Geruechte rund um Apple
sonderlich ernst nehmen, war ich nach dem Gespraech doch sehr gluecklich.
Die Zeichen mehren sich, dass es noch Hoffnung gibt, dass Apple nicht
*alle* guten Produkte einstellt sondern auch mal was richtig macht.
Ich freu mich jedenfalls auf naechstes Jahr. :-))
Liebe Gruesse aus Leipzig, Nils
From: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: YellowBox/Rhapsoy als Quellcode?
Date: 17 Nov 1998 08:46:59 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Hallo,
>Vor einer Woche wurde in de.comp.sys.next das Geruecht diskutiert,
>dass Apple angekuendigt habe, Rhapsody bzw. die YellowBox als
>Quellcode freizugeben. Das ganze Drama endete damit, dass Carsten
>Brinkschulte, von dem das ganze waehrend des Apple Technology Days
>in Bremen in die Welt gesetzt worden war, ein oeffentliches Dementi
>geposted hat.
Auch aus Deinem Posting geht immer noch nicht hervor, was denn nun
freigegeben werden wuerde, falls es war ist: Die YellowBox oder
Rhapsody?
Ersteres waere sehr spannend, zweiteres wuerde lediglich zu einem
weiteren freien Unix-Kern fuehren und wuerde mich nur begrenzt
aufregen.
Dirk
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From: th.hensel@mc-wetter.de
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Subject: Java - PDO Kommunikation
Date: 17 Nov 1998 10:59:35 GMT
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Aloha !
Gibt es eigentlich eine Möglichkeit, von einem JAVA-Applet aus
mit einem (P)DO-server zu kommunizieren ???
Danke,
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OS 4.2 & NT
Date: 17 Nov 1998 16:42:48 GMT
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Alexander Dietz <icol.animo@t-online.de> wrote:
: Gibt es die Möglichkeit, auf die NTFS - Partition einer internen Festplatte
: zuzugreifen?
: OS 4.2 meldet immer nut Disk unreadable und schkägt eine Formatierung
: vor....
AFAIK unterstuetzt vmount NTFS allerdings nur read-only.
Den Formatierungswunsch bekommst Du durch einen ignore-Eintrag
in /etc/fstab weg (filesystem-type muss ignore sein).
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From: Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OS 4.2 & NT
Date: 17 Nov 1998 17:51:15 +0100
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icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz) writes:
> Gibt es die Möglichkeit, auf die NTFS - Partition einer internen Festplatte
> zuzugreifen?
Vmount sollte das koennen. (-> www.peanuts.org)
> OS 4.2 meldet immer nut Disk unreadable und schkägt eine Formatierung
> vor....
fstab Eintrag vom Typ `ignore' eintragen? ;-)
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From: gherman@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:51:41 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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In article <36503D30.CBE1B7DC@mdlink.de>,
Helge Hess <hh@mdlink.de> wrote:
> Es gibt 100000 verschiedene Sprachen die technologisch sicher akzeptabel
> sind, meinetwegen auch Python, was aber nicht's zur Sache tut, da WO
> nunmal in ObjC/Java ist.
> Die Vorteile von Objective-C schlagen sich direkt in WebObjects nieder
> und ist ein Grund warum viele Leute gerade WO gut finden und nicht
> BaBo-Zeug.
Juheissa, da klingt wieder die typische NeXT-like Begeisterung durch,
wie in dem NTY-Artikel am Ende, wo von WOFs "technischer Ueberlegenheit"
die Rede ist. Von mir aus soll man meinen, dem sei so. Es zeigt jeden-
falls auch, dass ein gewisser Hang zu liebgewordenen Scheuklappen in
dieser Szene immer noch weitverbreitet ist.
> > Wirklich abgefahren daran finde ich hoechstens, dass man portablen code
> > schreiben kann, der nicht nur wie einige meinen wie bei ObjC auf "ver-
> > schiedenen" Plattformen laeuft (die Beantwortung der Frage "welche?"
> > haengt dabei offenbar von der Luftfeuchtigkeit in Apple's Marketing-
> > Abteilung ab), sondern der unter "allen" Plattformen laeuft: von WinCE
> > (ja, Mist, ich weiss) bis zu einer Cray T3D.
>
> Es gibt Objective-C, Foundation und EOF als GNU Software. ObjC ist
> fester Bestandteil von gcc welcher ebenfalls fuer einen sehr grossen
> Teil von Platformen verfuegbar ist.
Da bin ich aber gespannt, wieviele Beispiele fuer Web-Sites angefuehrt
werden koennen, die mit den freien Versionen von Obj-C, Foundation und
EOF laufen? ;-) Oder wurde Apple's WOF auch in diese Richtung umgebogen,
wenn es denn schon so leicht ist?
> Ich wuerde meinen, das soetwas ein jeder ProgSprach-Designer als
> Uebungsaufgabe durchfuehren kann. Es gibt bestimmt auch SQL engines in
> Eiffel, Sather, Lisp, Smalltalk, ... Es ist zB auch recht ueblich die
> Sprache in sich selber zu implementieren, um ihre Leistungsfaehigkeit zu
> zeigen.
Ja, man koennte einen HTTP-Server auch als Turing-Maschine auf Papier
implementieren, nur nuetzen wuerde das niemandem, wogegen eine portable
SQL-Maschine ein ganz anderes Kaliber ist...
Und - abschliessend, und weil ich hier keinen Kreuzzug fuer oder gegen
etwas vorhabe - es ist ein fundamentaler Unterschied, ob eine Software
mit fat binaries etwa auf N Platformen laeuft wie frueher mal mit Obj-C
oder ob man wie unter Java (und Python) Bytecode interpretiert. Das wird
in der Euphorie um Obj-C gern unter den Teppich gekehrt, spielt aber bei
verteilten Applikationen, wo man moeglicherweise gar nicht weiss, mit
welchen Plattformen man es zu tun hat, eine Rolle. Aber das nur am Rande.
Wie gesagt, das soll aus meiner Sicht reichen. Ich habe nicht vor, hier
jemanden zu bekehren. Ich finde aber schon, dass man sich wundern muss,
wie einige Mitglieder dieser Gemeinde ihre Ueberzeugungen hochtragen,
ohne unbedingt immer zu wissen, dass es andere Loesungen gibt, die nicht
per se "besser" aber eben auch nicht per definitionem "technisch unter-
legen" sind, weil nicht das Label NeXT/Apple/ObjC/EOF/WOF draufklebt.
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From: Helge Hess <hh@mdlink.de>
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Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 02:02:23 +0100
Organization: MDlink online service center
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gherman@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <36503D30.CBE1B7DC@mdlink.de>,
> Helge Hess <hh@mdlink.de> wrote:
>
> Juheissa, da klingt wieder die typische NeXT-like Begeisterung durch,
> wie in dem NTY-Artikel am Ende, wo von WOFs "technischer Ueberlegenheit"
> die Rede ist. Von mir aus soll man meinen, dem sei so. Es zeigt jeden-
> falls auch, dass ein gewisser Hang zu liebgewordenen Scheuklappen in
> dieser Szene immer noch weitverbreitet ist.
Naja, ich wuerde sagen, dass jemand der C++ or VisualBasic benutzt ein
ueblicher Scheuklappennutzer ist. Bei NeXTlern ist das eher selten der
Fall, sonst waehren sie naehmlich gar nicht auf selbiges gestossen.
Du koenntest ja auch technisch bleiben und darlegen, warum WO nicht
technisch ueberlegen ist und was dazu noch fehlt, bzw was andere
Loesungen fuer Vorteile bieten. WO ist sicher nicht perfekt, aber das
vernuenftigste, was ich bisher gesehen habe. Gegen Vorschlaege fuer
Verbesserungen habe ich nichts einzuwenden.
> > Es gibt Objective-C, Foundation und EOF als GNU Software. ObjC ist
> > fester Bestandteil von gcc welcher ebenfalls fuer einen sehr grossen
> > Teil von Platformen verfuegbar ist.
>
> Da bin ich aber gespannt, wieviele Beispiele fuer Web-Sites angefuehrt
> werden koennen, die mit den freien Versionen von Obj-C, Foundation und
> EOF laufen? ;-)
Durch die freie Natur der Dinge laesst sich das natuerlich schlecht
messen ..
Ich kenne aber durchaus einige Seiten die auf der genannten Technologie
basieren (inclusive unserer eigenen natuerlich ;-)
> Oder wurde Apple's WOF auch in diese Richtung umgebogen,
> wenn es denn schon so leicht ist?
Wie schon erwaehnt, habe ich einen WOF Clone mit Hilfe des oben
genannten erstellt. Fuer jemanden mit etwas CGI-HTTP und natuerlich WO
Erfahrung ist das eine Sache von 1-4 Wochen.
> Und - abschliessend, und weil ich hier keinen Kreuzzug fuer oder gegen
> etwas vorhabe - es ist ein fundamentaler Unterschied, ob eine Software
> mit fat binaries etwa auf N Platformen laeuft wie frueher mal mit Obj-C
> oder ob man wie unter Java (und Python) Bytecode interpretiert. Das wird
> in der Euphorie um Obj-C gern unter den Teppich gekehrt, spielt aber bei
> verteilten Applikationen, wo man moeglicherweise gar nicht weiss, mit
> welchen Plattformen man es zu tun hat, eine Rolle. Aber das nur am Rande.
Du solltest mal bei der Sache bleiben. Fuer den Anwendungsfall ueber den
wir hier diskutiert haben ist ObjC sehr gut geeignet. Dabei geht es eben
nicht um das Ausfuehren von Code auf entfernten Maschinen (oder WinCE's
oder sonstwas). Eine WO App ist eigentlich nie FAT (ausser vieleicht zur
Auslieferung), sondern speziell auf die entsprechende Platform getrimmt.
Das ist bei den Lastanforderungen eben auch notwendig.
Java und Python sind eben fuer andere Dinge geeignet als ObjC. Auch
ueber die Bytecode Eigenschaften (und andere Vorteile) selbiger
Sprachen/VMs ist sich der Grossteil der WO Bevoelkerung sicherlich
bewusst.
BTW: Dir ist nicht zufaellig bewusst, das WO auch ein Java Binding
besitzt ?
> Wie gesagt, das soll aus meiner Sicht reichen. Ich habe nicht vor, hier
> jemanden zu bekehren. Ich finde aber schon, dass man sich wundern muss,
> wie einige Mitglieder dieser Gemeinde ihre Ueberzeugungen hochtragen,
> ohne unbedingt immer zu wissen, dass es andere Loesungen gibt, die nicht
> per se "besser" aber eben auch nicht per definitionem "technisch unter-
> legen" sind, weil nicht das Label NeXT/Apple/ObjC/EOF/WOF draufklebt.
Ich glaube kaum das die Leute hier so blind sind, wie du anscheinend
denkst. Es ist sicher jeder an technisch guten Loesungen interessiert,
die eventl. besser als WO sind, schliesslich betreibt man dass ganze ja
nicht als Hobby.
In diesem Zusammenhang ist es eben nicht interessant, dass noch ein
anderes, freies Web Development Kit gibt, sondern warum und weshalb das
nun gerade besser ist. OpenSource ist sicher ein gutes Argument, aber
eben auch nicht alles.
Helge
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From: Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com>
Subject: Problem mit OS 4.2, 3Com905 und Dual Pentium
Date: 17 Nov 1998 21:04:44 GMT
Sender: tom@cat.ping.de
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Folgendes Problem:
Ein OpenStep 4.2 meint beim Booten zur Netzwerkkarte "unknown PCI device" und
bleibt stehen.
Hardware:
Gigabyte Dual Pentium Board bestueckt mit 2 200MHz CPUs, Netzwerkkarte 3Com
905 und Grafikkarte Genoa irgendwas (S3 Chipsatz)
Der Treiber ist der 3Com 90x Treiber, der in einem anderen (Single CPU)
Rechner eine 3Com 900 ohne Probleme treibt.
Weiss einer woran das liegen koennte und wichtiger wie ich das Stehenbleiben
beim Booten weg bekomme? Wenn jemand eine 10/100MBit Netzwerkkarte kennt, die
er unter OS4.2 in einem Dual Pentium System betreibt, wuerde mich die
Typenbezeichnung interessieren. Falls jemand die 905 in so einem System
nutzt, interessiert mich die Marke des Mainboards und der Grafikkarte.
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: X
Date: 17 Nov 1998 21:01:26 GMT
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Hallo,
wenn ich auf meiner Linux-Kiste ein X Programm starte und die
Bildschirmausgabe auf meinen OS Rechner umleite (mit X Emulator),
bekomme ich auf der Linux-Kiste die Meldung:
Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859-1 font
und dann eine segmentation fault. Starte ich Programme unter Linux
(auf dem Linux Rechner) oder auf OS compilierte X-Programme (im
X-Emulator unter OS) funktioniert alles prima.
Auf beiden Rechner sind die identischen Fonst installiert. Muss
ich noch irgendwo eine Einstellung vornehmen, damit die auch richtig
gefunden werden, oder woran liegt das?
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From: claudia.ullmann@t-online.de (Christian Witt)
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Subject: Re: CD 3.3 kaputt
Date: 17 Nov 1998 21:55:03 GMT
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Christian Witt schrieb:
>
> hi,
>
> vieleicht kann mir jemand weiter helfen. Ich hatte 3.1 3.2 und 3.3
> nun da ich wieder mal Lust hatte NeXTStep zu installieren, stellte
> sich heraus, dass meine 3.3 cd eine Fehler aufwies.
Habe ich irgend jemanden auf die Füsse getreten, oder einen
unanständigen Antrag gemacht, daß mir niemand antwortet ?
ciao
chris
From: Nik Wiesel <uzs198@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: 4 Gigabyte Limit
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:57:31 +0000
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Hallo, kann man unter OS4.2 irgendwie die 4 G-byte Grenze fuer Festplatten
oder die 2 G-Byte grenze fuer Partitionen umgehen?
Antworten bitte auch an mich,
Danke im voraus...
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From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: nochmal APM
Date: 18 Nov 1998 14:56:54 GMT
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Hallo,
nachdem ich mich damit abfinden musste, dass OpenStep4.2 mein
ATX-Mainboard mit APM-Unterstuetzung bein shutdown nicht automatisch
abschalten kann, frage ich mich inzwischen, wozu die
APM-Unterstuetzung ueberhaupt da ist. Wenn ich in den Preferences
Energiesparend einschalte, wird der Rechner zwar wie im Bios
eingestellt in den Standby-Modus versetzt, aber leider bleibt dann
auch die interne Uhr stehen, so dass das Ganze nutzlos wird. Ich habe
von einem Bekannten, der ehemaliger NeXTStep-Nutzer ist, gehoert, dass
das unter NeXTStep3.3 schonmal problemlos ging.
Kann jemand bestaetigen, dass der Standby-Modus mit weiterlaufender
Uhr auch unter OpenStep4.2 funktioniert, und wenn ja, mit welchen
Mainboard und welchen Bios-Einstellungen?
Joerg
From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Problem mit OS 4.2, 3Com905 und Dual Pentium
Date: 18 Nov 1998 15:06:22 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
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Thomas Adams (tadams@pobox.com) wrote:
> Ein OpenStep 4.2 meint beim Booten zur Netzwerkkarte "unknown PCI device" und
> bleibt stehen.
Liegt es evtl. daran, dass die Karte sich mit einer neuen PCI ID
anmeldet, unter der der 3Com-Treiber sie noch nicht erkennt?
Joerg
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: 4 Gigabyte Limit
Date: 18 Nov 1998 19:39:39 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
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Nik Wiesel <uzs198@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> wrote:
> Hallo, kann man unter OS4.2 irgendwie die 4 G-byte Grenze fuer Festplatten
> oder die 2 G-Byte grenze fuer Partitionen umgehen?
Eine 4GB-Grenze fuer Festplatten gab es nie, die 2GB-Grenze fuer Partitionen
laesst sich nicht umgehen.
Tschau
Uli
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From: Christian Benesch <a9226931@unet.univie.ac.at>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Gesucht: ADB NeXT keyboard und mouse
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:42:33 +0100
Organization: Vienna University, Austria
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Hallo Leute,
Ich suche ein ADB NeXT keyboard und eine Maus.
Habe schon bei Deepspace nachgefragt.
Die wollen aber $ 78 allein für das Porto nach Europa außerdem gibt's
kein C.O.D..
Und es würde sich wirklich gut an meinem G3 Powerbook machen :)
(Sehen die ADB Sachen genauso aus wie die non-ADB? schwarz mit
NeXT-Logo?)
Wenn jemand sowas loswerden will, bitte antworten.
Christian Benesch
a9425689@unet.univie.ac.at
From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Problem mit OS 4.2, 3Com905 und Dual Pentium
Date: 19 Nov 1998 07:16:30 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
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Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com> writes
> Ein OpenStep 4.2 meint beim Booten zur Netzwerkkarte "unknown PCI
> device" und
Wahrscheinlich hast Du das schon gemacht, aber trotzdem:
Hast Du das EtherlinkXK - Package installiert? Damit sollte
es eigentlich gehen.
Ciao Martin
From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: 3.3-Programme unter 4.2 compilieren?
Date: 19 Nov 1998 11:16:15 GMT
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Hallo,
kann mir jemand sagen, ob und wie ich NeXTStep3.3-sourcen unter
OpenStep4.2 mit den libraries in /usr/shlib linken kann (libNeXT,
libmedia)? Das compilieren funktioniert mit den .h-files aus
/NextLibrary/OpenStepConversion/3.3Headers einwandfrei, nur am linken
scheitert es bisher.
Joerg
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: 19 Nov 1998 12:44:36 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <7313rk$3pb$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <70vso9$24d$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <364C1160.C69@darwin.in-berlin.de> <364CD3A9.763B7C9F@mdlink.de> <3650326A.26F4@darwin.in-berlin.de> <36503D30.CBE1B7DC@mdlink.de> <72sgjt$7en$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
>Juheissa, da klingt wieder die typische NeXT-like Begeisterung durch,
>wie in dem NTY-Artikel am Ende, wo von WOFs "technischer Ueberlegenheit"
>die Rede ist. Von mir aus soll man meinen, dem sei so. Es zeigt jeden-
>falls auch, dass ein gewisser Hang zu liebgewordenen Scheuklappen in
>dieser Szene immer noch weitverbreitet ist.
Bah. Hose runter. Mit WebObjects haben wir www.sendamac.de gebaut.
Zeig mir was du mit Python gemacht hast, und dann diskutieren wir
technische Ueberlegenheit.
Holgi rulez,
Krizz
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From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: 19 Nov 1998 14:43:29 GMT
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Chriz Noize wrote:
> Bah. Hose runter. Mit WebObjects haben wir www.sendamac.de gebaut.
> Zeig mir was du mit Python gemacht hast, und dann diskutieren wir
> technische Ueberlegenheit.
>
> Holgi rulez,
> Krizz
/me war nicht involviert, weist alles von sich, behauptet das Gegenteil,
und fragt sich warum send-a-mac ausgerechnet in Würzburg wohnt.
:)
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: 19 Nov 1998 15:53:11 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
>
>Chriz Noize wrote:
...
>> Holgi rulez,
>> Krizz
>
>/me war nicht involviert, weist alles von sich, behauptet das Gegenteil,
>und fragt sich warum send-a-mac ausgerechnet in Würzburg wohnt.
>:)
.. wollte ich damit nicht unterstellen.. es ist nur kewl dass viele aus
meiner alten Hood jetzt WO machen. :-)
Chriz
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: X
Date: 19 Nov 1998 15:39:33 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de/
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juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>wenn ich auf meiner Linux-Kiste ein X Programm starte und die
>Bildschirmausgabe auf meinen OS Rechner umleite (mit X Emulator),
>bekomme ich auf der Linux-Kiste die Meldung:
>
>Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859-1 font
Hm. Bei meinem NetBSD 1.3.2-Rechner geht das aus der Tuete.
Einfach alle *X*-tars von ftp.de.netbsd.org gezogen, installiert und geht.
Vielleicht ist Deine X/Linux-Distribution nicht so toll.
Kannst Du von einem anderen Rechner was auf die NeXT umlenken?
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From: Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Problem mit OS 4.2, 3Com905 und Dual Pentium
Date: 19 Nov 1998 10:40:11 GMT
Sender: tom@cat.ping.de
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Joerg Kollmann <joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de> wrote:
> Liegt es evtl. daran, dass die Karte sich mit einer neuen PCI ID
> anmeldet, unter der der 3Com-Treiber sie noch nicht erkennt?
Mangels Source weiss ich nicht, ob der Treiber irgendetwas abfragt. Wenn ich
allerdings einen Treiber fuer eine 90x nutze und eine 90x einsetze, erwarte
ich eigentlich, dass das laeuft. Sollte da etwas abgefragt werden, kann man
das wegpatchen?
From: "David Andel" <david@next.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Gesucht: ADB NeXT keyboard und mouse
Date: 20 Nov 1998 01:18:53 GMT
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In article <3653CBE9.955A3274@unet.univie.ac.at> Christian Benesch
<a9226931@unet.univie.ac.at> writes:
> Ich suche ein ADB NeXT keyboard und eine Maus.
Versuch's vielleicht mal bei Interpersonal Computing <info@interpc.de>.
Dort gab es vor eineinhalb Jahren noch welche mit deutschem, englischen,
schweizer und portugiesischem Layout. Insgesamt etwa 50 Sets.
[...]
> (Sehen die ADB Sachen genauso aus wie die non-ADB? schwarz mit
> NeXT-Logo?)
Aus groesserer Ferne sehen sie vielleicht noch so aus :-). Die ADB-Tastatur
ist etwas schlanker, weniger robust/schwer, mit deutlich weicherem Anschlag
und ohne den farbigen NeXT-Button. Stattdessen ist das NeXT-Logo farblos
eingepraegt und die Regeltasten (Lautstaerke, Helligkeit) sind niedriger
sowie deutlicher vom Rest der Tasten unterscheidbar als bei der
Non-ADB-Version. Desweitern ist die ADB-Tastatur hoehenverstellbar, die
Power-Taste gruen, die Taste fuer Versalien leichter arretierbar (dafuer
aber ohne LED) und die Command-Taste unterhalb der Freizeichen-Taste
geradezu luxerioes breit. Schliesslich gibt es zwei Info-Tasten zum Aufruf
der Hilfefunktion (sofern vorhanden) und das Layout ist fuer meine Begriffe
ein Quentchen ergonomischer.
Die alte Non-ADB-Maus ist ebenso klobig wie schwer und entspricht etwa dem
(alten) S-Klasse Design unter den Maeusen, obgleich sie ueber eine
unbestreitbar hohe Praezision und Laufsicherheit verfuegt. Die ADB-Maus
dagegen ist rund, leicht und sieht "mausiger" bzw. auch ein wenig wie
Raumschiff Orion aus. Die ADB-Maus erscheint mir leider weniger
alltagstauglich bzw. zuverlaessig.
Die ADB-Teile enthalten ausserdem keine Gummikomponenten, wie noch bei der
ersten Generation von NeXT-Hardware ueblich.
Hope it helps,
David Andel
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: CD 3.3 kaputt
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Christian Witt <claudia.ullmann@t-online.de> wrote:
: vieleicht kann mir jemand weiter helfen. Ich hatte 3.1 3.2 und 3.3
: nun da ich wieder mal Lust hatte NeXTStep zu installieren, stellte
: sich heraus, dass meine 3.3 cd eine Fehler aufwies.
...
: Wie komme ich nun an einen funktionierende 3.3 oder (mittels Zahlungs
: mittel DM) an eine höhere Version von NS
Eine hoehere NS-Version als 3.3 gab es nicht; allerdings existiert
der Nachfolger OPENSTEP (auch fuer Intel/Kompatible und fuer "schwarze
Hardware") in der z.Z. aktuellen Version 4.2.
Die kriegst Du z.B. bei Medicom oder RCN (Adressen von beiden wurden
neulich hier gepostet; bitte ggf. Deja News o.ae. konsultieren.)
Andere Moeglichkeit: Anderes CD-ROM-Laufwerk mit besserer/anderer
Fehlerkorrektur schon ausprobiert?
Gruss,
Ingmar
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From: Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: Gesucht: ADB NeXT keyboard und mouse
Message-ID: <1998Nov20.010550.24501@aurora.in-berlin.de>
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 01:05:50 GMT
Christian Benesch <a9226931@unet.univie.ac.at> wrote:
: (Sehen die ADB Sachen genauso aus wie die non-ADB? schwarz mit
: NeXT-Logo?)
Ich habe eine hier, die ich aber selber an meinem Rechner brauche.
Ich kann Dir aber immerhin aus eigener Anschauung sagen, dass die
NeXT-ADB-Tastatur a) schwarz mit *eingraviertem* (nicht-farbigem)
NeXT-Logo ist (weisse Buchstaben auf schwarzen Tasten), nur die
Power-Taste ist gruen, und b) nicht genauso aussehen wie die
non-ADB-Teile (IMHO besser, u.a. ist die Command-Taste *unterhalb*
der SPACE-Taste angebracht, so dass man sie mit den Daumen sehr
gut erreicht). [Ich maile Dir mal ein Icon oder eine Bild der
Tastatur...]
HTH,
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From: scholz@munich.object-factory.com (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: CD 3.3 kaputt
Date: 20 Nov 1998 10:25:13 GMT
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claudia.ullmann@t-online.de (Christian Witt) wrote:
>Christian Witt schrieb:
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> vieleicht kann mir jemand weiter helfen. Ich hatte 3.1 3.2 und 3.3
>> nun da ich wieder mal Lust hatte NeXTStep zu installieren, stellte
>> sich heraus, dass meine 3.3 cd eine Fehler aufwies.
>
>Habe ich irgend jemanden auf die Füsse getreten, oder einen
>unanständigen Antrag gemacht, daß mir niemand antwortet ?
>
Was erwartest Du denn als Antwort? Auf welche Frage überhaupt?
Keiner kann hier Deine CD reparieren (außer Apple).
Grüße,
Bernhard.
From: gloger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Jochen Gloger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Drucker-Problem, parallel Port
Date: 20 Nov 1998 10:57:24 GMT
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Hallo,
wir haben einen NEXTSTEP 3.3 Rechner mit einem Tyan Tsunami Board und einer
450 MHz CPU hochgerüstet. Das Problem ist nun, daß beim Absenden eines
jobs der Drucker wohl zu blinken anfängt, es kommt aber kein Ausdruck raus.
Wir betreiben das Ganze unter JetPilot. Es ist ein HP Laserjet, der am
lelen Port angeschlossen ist. Ich habe schon sämtliche Möglichkeiten den
allelen Port zu konfigurieren im BIOS des Boards ausprobiert, leider umsonst.
Wenn man den Drucker abschaltet, merkt das der JetPilot-Dämon und meldet
Printer unavailable". Irgendwie scheint er ihn schon zu kennen. Der parallele
e Port pp0 wird jedenfalls während des Bootens korrekt erkannt.
Mit dem vorher eingebauten Board hatten wir keinerlei Probleme, das war
rdings von GigaByte. Das Board haben wir nur ausgetauscht, an der
en Nextstep Konfiguration und den anderen Karten hat sich überhaupt nichts geän
ändert.
Falls jemand schon mal ein ähnliches Problem hatte und eine Lösung kennt,
tte eine kurze email an mich.
Gruß
Jochen
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From: Paul Seelig <pseelig@mail.uni-mainz.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: YellowBox/Rhapsoy als Quellcode?
Date: 20 Nov 1998 17:29:06 +0100
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany
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Nils Hott <soz96hxw@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de> writes:
> Die Zeichen mehren sich, dass es noch Hoffnung gibt, dass Apple nicht
> *alle* guten Produkte einstellt sondern auch mal was richtig macht.
>
> Ich freu mich jedenfalls auf naechstes Jahr. :-))
>
Beziehst du dich inhaltlich etwa auf dies hier?
http://www.slashdot.org/articles/98/11/19/1655256.shtml
bzw. http://www.macosrumors.com/ mit "Apple open to
platform-independent OS?"
MfG, P. *8^)
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Weltweit groesster Mac OS X Server-FTP-Server ftp.beng.org eroeffnet
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Date: 20 Nov 1998 15:25:51 GMT
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FÜR MAC OS X SERVER- UND YELLOW BOX-SOFTWARE ERÖFFNET
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) hat den derzeit weltweit
umfangsreichsten und aktuellsten FTP-Server für Apples neues
Betriebssystem Mac OS X Server, dessen Vorversionen Rhapsody (DR1 &
DR2) und die Entwicklungs- bzw. Laufzeitumgebung Yellow Box für
Windows eröffnet.
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Unter der URL ftp://ftp.beng.org finden Sie nicht nur Freeware- und
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Sämtliche Dokumente und Programmpakete haben einen speziellen
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Drucker-Problem, parallel Port
Date: 20 Nov 1998 17:17:53 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Jochen Gloger <gloger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM> wrote:
: Hallo,
: wir haben einen NEXTSTEP 3.3 Rechner mit einem Tyan Tsunami Board und einer
: 450 MHz CPU hochgerüstet. Das Problem ist nun, daß beim Absenden eines
: jobs der Drucker wohl zu blinken anfängt, es kommt aber kein Ausdruck raus.
Bekanntes Problem. Der Parallelport generiert keine Interrupts
(oder Du hast den IRQ falsch konfiguriert).
ParallelPortDriver von Chr. Starkjohann benutzen (den IRQ-los
Modus habe ich da vor Jahren mal eingebaut :-)
Den Treiber gibt's auf den bekannten ftp-Archiven.
Axel
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Openstep auf Partition am Plattenende bei 5GB-Platte und W95
Date: 20 Nov 1998 17:31:35 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <73491n$294$2@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <362de9b4.0@m3-hh-alpha.03.net> <72bplf$v94$4@ns.munich.object-factory.com>
Bernhard Scholz <scholz@munich.object-factory.com> wrote:
: Michael Franke wrote:
: >Hallo zusammen,
: >wir haben hier einen IDE-Rechner mit 5 GB Platte. Erste Partition 4420 MB
: mit
: >Windows95 (tschuldigung, aber aus bestimmten Gruenden brauchen wir das). Auf
: >die zweite Partition (die restlichen 580 MB) wollten wir Openstep
: >installieren, was aber nicht funktionierte. Openstep erkennt diese Partition
: >korrekt, bricht aber dann mit der Meldung ab, dass die Platte nicht
: >formatiert werden koennte.
Weil ich gerade mit meiner neuen Notebook-Festplatte gekaempft habe
(die alte ist vorgestern abgeraucht, aber ich habe ja noch eine
Woche Zeit bis zur Diplomabgabe :*()
Openstep 4.2 laesst sich nur innerhalb der ersten 2 GB
einer Platte installieren. Wobei ich eher schreiben sollte: 'laesst sich
dazu zwingen, auf den ersten 2 GB einer - in meinem Falle - 6.4 GB
Platte installiert zu werden'. Von selbst geht da gar nichts mehr.
Der Installer meint: No suitable Disk Drive found (oder so,
von der Aussage her). Mit disk laesst sich die Partition initialisieren,
newfs verrechnet sich aber bei der Partitionsgroesse und meint, die
Part. sei doppelt so gross wie angegeben (Sektorgroesse 1K, was definitv
nicht stimmt). Mag ein Einzelfall sein, ich habe jedenfalls dann
mit newfs -s <richtige groesse in KBytes> ein Dateisystem erzeugt.
Da der Installer nicht mag, muss man das passende ditto-Kommando
zum Installieren des Systems von Hand abschicken und die Installation
zu Fuss zuende fuehren.
Es macht keinen Spass. Geht aber. Booten muss man von den Installations-
disketten mit '-s' fuer Singleuser. Alles weitere steht in meinem
NEXTTOYOU-Artikel in dieser Ausgabe (das mit dem ditto nicht, aber
ein Blick fuer den Kenner in /etc/rc.cdrom und alles ist klar. Andere
als Kenner sollten die Aktion gleich bleibenlassen).
Der erste Versuch (Installation auf Part 2 in der Mitte der Platte)
klappte nicht, weil disk die bootbloecke nicht schreiben konnte.
Bezueglich Deines Windows-Problems wuerde ich so in etwa folgendes
vorschlagen: 1. Part (0 bis 1 GB) OPENSTEP, 2. Part Windows
zum Booten, 3.Part Windows Daten. Wenn Du die Win-Partitionen
kleiner 2 GB machst, kannst Du sogar von OPENSTEP per vmount
drauf zugreifen.
Have fun!
Axel
From: Nils Hott <soz96hxw@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: YellowBox/Rhapsoy als Quellcode?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:15:26 +0100
Organization: Uni Leipzig
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981120181141.3620B-100000@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de>
References: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981117014357.29415C-100000@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de> <8767caba5p.fsf@ntama.sowi.uni-mainz.de>
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On 20 Nov 1998, Paul Seelig wrote:
> Nils Hott <soz96hxw@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de> writes:
>
> > Die Zeichen mehren sich, dass es noch Hoffnung gibt, dass Apple nicht
> > *alle* guten Produkte einstellt sondern auch mal was richtig macht.
> Beziehst du dich inhaltlich etwa auf dies hier?
>
> http://www.slashdot.org/articles/98/11/19/1655256.shtml
> bzw. http://www.macosrumors.com/ mit "Apple open to
> platform-independent OS?"
Nein.
(Und wenn ich mich mal auf mosr beziehen sollte, dann wesentlich weniger
optimistisch. Hat sich oft genug gezeigt, dass diese Kids keine Ahnung von
dem haben, was sie da schreiben.)
Gruss, Nils :-)
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: 4 Gigabyte Limit
Date: 20 Nov 1998 17:34:54 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <73497u$294$3@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.981118125549.290A-100000@ibm> <72v7pr$q7$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
Uli Zappe <uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote:
: Nik Wiesel <uzs198@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> wrote:
: > Hallo, kann man unter OS4.2 irgendwie die 4 G-byte Grenze fuer Festplatten
: > oder die 2 G-Byte grenze fuer Partitionen umgehen?
: Eine 4GB-Grenze fuer Festplatten gab es nie, die 2GB-Grenze fuer Partitionen
: laesst sich nicht umgehen.
Gewagte Aussage, Uli.
Ab 4 GB macht OPENSTEP ganz merkwuerdige Sachen beim Installieren.
Siehe mein Posting unter dem Subject: Re: Openstep auf Partition am Plattenende bei 5GB-Platte und W95
von eben.
OPENSTEP hat auch ganz munter eine 1.25 GB Partition mit einem
2.5 GB grossen Dateisystem ausgestattet und konnte prima drauf rumschreiben.
Ich habe die Aktion dann vorsichtshalber abgebrochen und ein
Filesystem mit der richtigen Groesse installiert.
Axel
From: Christian Benesch <a9226931@unet.univie.ac.at>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Gesucht: ADB NeXT keyboard und mouse
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:53:59 +0200
Organization: Vienna University, Austria
Message-ID: <3655E4F7.EC6A11F2@unet.univie.ac.at>
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Nov 1998 18:09:42 GMT
Dank an alle die mir Bilder und Infos geschickt haben.
Mir persönlich sagt das Non-ADB Design mehr zu, aber
mein PB wird's wohl nicht akzeptieren.(Oder gibt's da einen
Adapter?)
Danke nochmals,
Christian
Christian Benesch wrote:
> Hallo Leute,
> Ich suche ein ADB NeXT keyboard und eine Maus.
> Habe schon bei Deepspace nachgefragt.
> Die wollen aber $ 78 allein für das Porto nach Europa außerdem gibt's
> kein C.O.D..
>
> Und es würde sich wirklich gut an meinem G3 Powerbook machen :)
>
> (Sehen die ADB Sachen genauso aus wie die non-ADB? schwarz mit
> NeXT-Logo?)
>
> Wenn jemand sowas loswerden will, bitte antworten.
>
> Christian Benesch
> a9425689@unet.univie.ac.at
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
From: Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Problem mit OS 4.2, 3Com905 und Dual Pentium
Date: 20 Nov 1998 08:36:35 GMT
Sender: tom@cat.ping.de
References: <f2l3vw.efw@cat.ping.de> <730gke$mej$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Organization: Debian GNU/Linux site
User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980226 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.34 (i486))
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Martin Oettle <martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de> wrote:
> Hast Du das EtherlinkXK - Package installiert? Damit sollte
> es eigentlich gehen.
Ist dort nicht der Treiber drin? Dann habe ich das natuerlich installiert,
wenn es was anderes ist: Was genau macht das Package?
From: From: cme@ipt-gmbh.de (Christian Metzger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: ADB Keyboard
Date: 20 Nov 1998 15:51:09 GMT
Organization: IPF.Net - welcome to the world.
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Hallo,
ich habe eine ähnliche Frage neulich schon gesehen, dennoch:
Verkauft irgendjemand eine deutsche ADB-Tastatur (Original NeXT versteht
sich)?
Ich wäre sehr interessiert, da ich im Moment nur eine englische besitze.
Viele Dank für jede Hilfe!
Christian Metzger
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: X
Date: 20 Nov 1998 22:05:23 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <734p33$14u@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
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David Wetzel wrote:
> Vielleicht ist Deine X/Linux-Distribution nicht so toll.
Nein, lag an meinem X-Emulator. Ich musste ihm noch mit
% mkfontdir ~/myfonts
% xset fp rehash
auf die Sprünge helfen. Jetzt funktioniert es.
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
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From: david.andel@t-online.de (David Andel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Gesucht: ADB NeXT keyboard und mouse
Date: 20 Nov 1998 01:42:27 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de)
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In article <3653CBE9.955A3274@unet.univie.ac.at> Christian Benesch
<a9226931@unet.univie.ac.at> writes:
> Ich suche ein ADB NeXT keyboard und eine Maus.
Versuch's vielleicht mal bei Interpersonal Computing <info@interpc.de>.
Dort gab es vor eineinhalb Jahren noch welche mit deutschem, englischen,
schweizer und portugiesischem Layout. Insgesamt etwa 50 Sets.
[...]
> (Sehen die ADB Sachen genauso aus wie die non-ADB? schwarz mit
> NeXT-Logo?)
Aus groesserer Ferne sehen sie vielleicht noch so aus :-). Die ADB-Tastatur
ist etwas schlanker, weniger robust/schwer, mit deutlich weicherem Anschlag
und ohne den farbigen NeXT-Button. Stattdessen ist das NeXT-Logo farblos
eingepraegt und die Regeltasten (Lautstaerke, Helligkeit) sind niedriger
sowie deutlicher vom Rest der Tasten unterscheidbar als bei der
Non-ADB-Version. Desweitern ist die ADB-Tastatur hoehenverstellbar, die
Power-Taste gruen, die Taste fuer Versalien leichter arretierbar (dafuer
aber ohne LED) und die Command-Taste unterhalb der Freizeichen-Taste
geradezu luxerioes breit. Schliesslich gibt es zwei Info-Tasten zum Aufruf
der Hilfefunktion (sofern vorhanden) und das Layout ist fuer meine Begriffe
ein Quentchen ergonomischer.
Die alte Non-ADB-Maus ist ebenso klobig wie schwer und entspricht etwa dem
(alten) S-Klasse Design unter den Maeusen, obgleich sie ueber eine
unbestreitbar hohe Praezision und Laufsicherheit verfuegt. Die ADB-Maus
dagegen ist rund, leicht und sieht "mausiger" bzw. auch ein wenig wie
Raumschiff Orion aus. Die ADB-Maus erscheint mir leider weniger
alltagstauglich bzw. zuverlaessig.
Die ADB-Teile enthalten ausserdem keine Gummikomponenten, wie noch bei der
ersten Generation von NeXT-Hardware ueblich.
Hope it helps,
David Andel
(NEXTTOYOU Magazin)
--
"...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: 18 Nov 1998 12:24:05 GMT
Organization: GMD Darmstadt, Germany
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"Dinu C. Gherman" <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de> wrote:
>So viel Spass muss sein! ;-)
Duerfte eine Weile dauern, EOF nachzubauen. Danke uebrigens, dass
du meine Email-Adresse ohne Spamblocker im Header gepostet hast.
Jeez.. whadda buncha morans..
POd,C
--
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// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: disktab (Platten partitionieren)
Date: 22 Nov 1998 19:48:06 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
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Hallo,
ich habe eine 4GB-Platte, auf der bisher eine 1GB OpenStep und eine
1GB Win95-Partition sind, der Rest ist noch unbenutzt.
Jetzt moechte ich eine weitere 1GB OpenStep-Partition anlegen (als
/dev/sd0b). Zum Testen habe ich erstmal eine alte 40MB-Platte eingebaut
und eine disktab angelegt, um einen disklabel zu schreiben, der diese Platte
in 2 Partitionen unterteilt. Leider wird meine disktab-Eintrag ignoriert und
eine 40MB-Partition angelegt.
Deshalb folgende Fragen:
was muss ich machen, um die Platte per Hand durch Schreiben eines
disklabels zu partitionieren?
Wenn ich auf die 4GB-Platte einen neuen disklabel schreibe, um eine zweite
OpenStep-Partition einzurichten, werden dadurch die beiden schon gefuellten
Partitionen beschaedigt?
Was koennte ich sonst machen, um auf einer bereits partitionierten
Platte eine weitere OpenStep-Partition anzulegen?
Danke fuer jede Hilfe,
Joerg
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: disktab (Platten partitionieren)
Date: 23 Nov 1998 00:09:47 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <73a94b$sed$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <739ppm$6f7$1@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de>
Joerg Kollmann <joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de> wrote:
: Hallo,
: ich habe eine 4GB-Platte, auf der bisher eine 1GB OpenStep und eine
: 1GB Win95-Partition sind, der Rest ist noch unbenutzt.
: Jetzt moechte ich eine weitere 1GB OpenStep-Partition anlegen (als
: /dev/sd0b).
Da hast Du wohl Pech.
Das DOS-Partitionierungsschema und das von NEXTSTEP bezueglich
des BSD-Filesystems sind nur hierarchisch moeglich, d.h. Du
kannst eine per fdisk erzeugte NEXTSTEP-slice in mehrere BSD-FS
Partitionen unterteilen. Mehrere NEXTSTEP-Slices im fdisk-Schema sind
nicht moeglich.
Ergo: Alles runternehmen. per fdisk neu partitionieren, so dass
NeXTSTEP und Windows jeweils den gewuenschten Platz bekommen.
HTH
Axel
From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Problem mit OS 4.2, 3Com905 und Dual Pentium
Date: 23 Nov 1998 07:45:57 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <73b3rl$mei$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <f2pp90.6n6@cat.ping.de>
Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com> writes
>
> > Hast Du das EtherlinkXK - Package installiert? Damit sollte
> > es eigentlich gehen.
>
> Ist dort nicht der Treiber drin? Dann habe ich das natuerlich
installiert,
> wenn es was anderes ist: Was genau macht das Package?
Ja genau. Es ist das Package mit den 3COM Treibern. Es ist aber
nicht auf der OS-CD mit drauf.
Ciao
Martin
From: "Olaf Foellinger" <of@bln.sesa.de>
Subject: Fragen zu WebObjects
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Message-ID: <3659370a.0@netnews.web.de>
Date: 23 Nov 1998 11:20:58 +0100
Organization: WEB.DE
Hi,
ich hätte einige Fragen zu WebObjects:
Stitische Lastverteilung geht ja, geht auch dynamische Lastverteilung, d.h.
programmgesteuert abhängig von der Serverlast ?
Wie werden neue Seiten/Anwendungen im laufenden Betrieb hinzugefügt bzw. Updates
eingespielt ?
Gint es Schnittstellen zu anderen Versionsverwaltungstools, z.B. ClearCase ?
Gruß Olaf
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From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: disktab (Platten partitionieren)
Date: 23 Nov 1998 11:48:08 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
Message-ID: <73bi1o$i00$1@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de>
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Axel Habermann (kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de) wrote:
: Joerg Kollmann <joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de> wrote:
: : Jetzt moechte ich eine weitere 1GB OpenStep-Partition anlegen (als
: : /dev/sd0b).
: Partitionen unterteilen. Mehrere NEXTSTEP-Slices im fdisk-Schema sind
: nicht moeglich.
: Ergo: Alles runternehmen. per fdisk neu partitionieren, so dass
: NeXTSTEP und Windows jeweils den gewuenschten Platz bekommen.
Da ich momentan nicht genuegend Platz fuer ein Backup habe, waere
evtl. folgende Loesung moeglich:
angeblich kann man mit PartitionMagic (oder so) Dos-Partitionen in der
Groesse aendern und verschieben, ohne dass der Inhalt verloren
geht. Ich wuerde dann die W95-Partition 1 GB nach hinten verschieben,
mit fdisk die OpenStep-Partition auf 2GB vergroessern und dann einen
disklabel schreiben, der die urspruengliche 1GB-OpenStep-Partition und
eine weitere 1GB-Partition als sd0b einstellt. Ist das moeglich, ohne
den Inhalt der urspruenglichen OpenStep-Partition zu zerstoeren?
Dann stellt sich noch die Frage, wie ich den disklabel schreibe, weil
die disk dafuer geunmountet sein muss. Vermutlich von der
Installationsdiskette in den Singleusermode booten, so dass sd0a noch
nicht gemountet ist.
Joerg
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Fragen zu WebObjects
Date: 23 Nov 1998 11:56:43 GMT
Organization: The Craftite XP Conspiracy
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"Olaf Foellinger" wrote:
> Stitische Lastverteilung geht ja, geht auch dynamische Lastverteilung, d.h.
> programmgesteuert abhängig von der Serverlast ?
Nur mit einem anderen WOAdaptor. In größeren C/S Umgebungen machen sowas
sog. TP-Monitore (der bekannteste dürfte Tuxedo von BEA sein,
www.beasys.com).
Man sollte sowas in den CGI-Adaptor integrieren können, aber je nach
Anforderung kann auch ein etwas einfacher gestrickter Algorithmus
im Adaptor Abhilfe schaffen. Das in WOF per default eingesetzte 'statische
quasi-round-robin' ist in der Praxis wohl ausreichend - unter der
Voraussetzung, daß alle Benutzer/Sessions ungefähr ähnliche Ressourcen
brauchen. Du mußt Dir auch darüber bewußt sein, daß sowas die Latenzzeit
eines jeden HTTP Requests erheblich drücken kann.
Wirkliche Abhilfe können da nur komplett neue Systeme wie z.B. ein
gehackter Apache mit WOAdaptor-mod und load balancing/failover bringen..
> Wie werden neue Seiten/Anwendungen im laufenden Betrieb hinzugefügt bzw.
> Updates eingespielt ?
Eingebaut ist da wenig bis garnix, aber man kann sich relativ einfach
einen Mechanismus stricken, der eine App im laufenden Betrieb für
neue Sessions sperrt, um z.B. die Datenbank zu sichern o.ä.
Wenn Du neue Seiten hinzufügen willst, geht das nur bedingt, ohne die
App neu zu starten (caching, neue Klassen etc.). Gute Apps haben aber
sowieso nicht nur Session- sondern auch App-Timeouts, d.h. man spielt
die Änderung einfach ein und beim nächsten app cycle werden die dann
einfach mitgestartet.
> Gint es Schnittstellen zu anderen Versionsverwaltungstools, z.B. ClearCase
?
Keine Ahnung, wir benutzen CVS (aufgepumpt) und das tut halbwegs akzeptabel,
cross-platform (Mach/Solaris, ggf. eNTe); mit CVL hat man auch ein nettes GUI
für die Mäuseschubser (wie mich). :)
ProjectBuilder hat zwar eine SCM facility mit Bundles für PCVS und CVS,
aber das ist wohl alles ziemlicher Trash, wie die meisten
Versionierungssysteme auf Dateibasis. M.W. ist 'state of the Art' da
ENVY auf Gemstone (Smalltalk/OODB), aber Du willst jetzt nicht wirklich
wissen was das kostet.. :{
hope this helps
Holger
PS: wie ist das Leben in Berlin? :)
From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Boot floppy?
Date: 23 Nov 1998 15:17:08 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <73bu9k$42e$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Hallo Leute,
habe einen SCSI - Rechner, der nicht mehr bootet.
("Filesystem full - vnode_pageout: failed!")
Wie kann ich mir an einem anderen Rechner eine
Boot-Floppy herstellen (geht hoffentlich nicht nur
mit "disk"), und die nicht mehr bootfaehige Platte
an diese Diskette mounten??
Dankbar fuer jede Hilfe
Ciao
Martin
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Boot floppy?
Date: 23 Nov 1998 16:21:37 GMT
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Martin Oettle wrote:
> habe einen SCSI - Rechner, der nicht mehr bootet.
> ("Filesystem full - vnode_pageout: failed!")
Erste Hile:
1) boot -s
2) rm /private/vm/swapfile*
3) rm /usr/adm/*.old
4) rm /usr/adm/messages
5) /etc/reboot
Sollte erst mal wieder booten..dann als root einloggen und Platz
schaffen. In Zukunft cron so einstellen, daß alle (!) logfiles
regelmäßig gekürzt werden.
have fun
Holger
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: disktab (Platten partitionieren)
Date: 23 Nov 1998 20:02:10 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <73cf02$lsc$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <739ppm$6f7$1@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de> <73a94b$sed$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <73bi1o$i00$1@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de>
Joerg Kollmann <joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de> wrote:
: Axel Habermann (kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de) wrote:
: : Joerg Kollmann <joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de> wrote:
: : : Jetzt moechte ich eine weitere 1GB OpenStep-Partition anlegen (als
: : : /dev/sd0b).
: : Partitionen unterteilen. Mehrere NEXTSTEP-Slices im fdisk-Schema sind
: : nicht moeglich.
: : Ergo: Alles runternehmen. per fdisk neu partitionieren, so dass
: : NeXTSTEP und Windows jeweils den gewuenschten Platz bekommen.
: Da ich momentan nicht genuegend Platz fuer ein Backup habe, waere
: evtl. folgende Loesung moeglich:
: angeblich kann man mit PartitionMagic (oder so) Dos-Partitionen in der
: Groesse aendern und verschieben, ohne dass der Inhalt verloren
: geht. Ich wuerde dann die W95-Partition 1 GB nach hinten verschieben,
Ohne Backup ist das eine gewagte Variante.
: mit fdisk die OpenStep-Partition auf 2GB vergroessern und dann einen
: disklabel schreiben, der die urspruengliche 1GB-OpenStep-Partition und
: eine weitere 1GB-Partition als sd0b einstellt. Ist das moeglich, ohne
: den Inhalt der urspruenglichen OpenStep-Partition zu zerstoeren?
Koennte klappen, weiss ich aber nicht 100%ig. Ist auf jeden Fall
mit Risiko verbunden.
: Dann stellt sich noch die Frage, wie ich den disklabel schreibe, weil
: die disk dafuer geunmountet sein muss. Vermutlich von der
: Installationsdiskette in den Singleusermode booten, so dass sd0a noch
: nicht gemountet ist.
Das geht auf jeden Fall. Im Singleuser-Modus von CD-ROM gebootet hast
Du aber einen Haufen Probleme, weil Dein Root-Filesystem nicht schreibbar
ist. Den vi muss man erst gesondert ueberreden, zu arbeiten und der
Floppy-Treiber ist schlauerweise nicht auf der CD-ROM, so dass man nicht
mal die Moeglichkeit hat, z.B. das erste Megabyte der Partition zu
sichern, falls doch was schiefgeht.
Ich habe mir fuer solche Faelle eine modifizierte driver-disk gebaut.
Da kannst Du dann den Floppy-Treiber und evtl. Netzwerkkartentreiber
drauftun.
Eine ganz andere Variante faellt mir gerade ein. Du hast doch noch 2 GB frei.
Vorschlag also:
Eine weitere primaere DOS-Partition auf den 2 GB einrichten (mit dem
next-fdisk, weil das von windows nicht mehrere primaere DOS-Partitionen
anlegen mag). Dann Win booten, 2 GB Part formatieren. Mit dem Backup-Util
von Windows eine Kopie der 1 GB Windows-Part. da reinschreiben (Kompression
am besten ausschalten, weil das bei mir mal ganz boese schiefgegangen ist)
Dazu das Komplettsicherungs-Set verwenden, damit die Registry rueberkommt.
Dann NeXTSTEP booten und von der NEXTSTEP-Partition ein Vollbackup
ziehen (per gnutar) und dieses als File in die erste Windows-Partition
reinschreiben oder auch per vmount gleich in die zweite. Am Ende muss
das Backup auf der zweiten Win-Partition liegen, weil die erste ja
geloescht werden soll.
Dann NeXTSTEP plattmachen, erste Win-Partition plattmachen. Alles
wie gewuenscht partitionieren, NEXTSTEP neu installieren, Backup
zurueckspielen. Dann die Windows-Partition bearbeiten.
So in etwa.
--
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kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 62843137
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: w_keller@gmx.de (Wolfgang Keller)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: YellowBox/Rhapsoy als Quellcode?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:21:03 +0100
Organization: Customer of UUNET Deutschland GmbH, Dortmund, Germany
Message-ID: <1diwsl1.wl3v5f1syibjjN@pec-5.au1.m.uunet.de>
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Nils Hott <soz96hxw@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
> kurzer Rueckblick fuer die Macianer: Vor einer Woche wurde in
> de.comp.sys.next das Geruecht diskutiert, dass Apple angekuendigt habe,
> Rhapsody bzw. die YellowBox als Quellcode freizugeben.
Freigegeben wird afaik nur der Sourcecode für die BSD-Anteile, die
sowieso weitestgehend identisch zu bereits frei erhältlichen
BSD-Systemen sind.
MfG,
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From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Boot floppy?
Date: 24 Nov 1998 08:30:22 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
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Holger Hoffstaette writes
> Martin Oettle wrote:
> > habe einen SCSI - Rechner, der nicht mehr bootet.
> > ("Filesystem full - vnode_pageout: failed!")
>
> Erste Hile:
>
> 1) boot -s
> 2) rm /private/vm/swapfile*
> 3) rm /usr/adm/*.old
> 4) rm /usr/adm/messages
> 5) /etc/reboot
>
danke, aber der Rechner bootet nicht mal in den
Single-user-Modus. Auch mit Config=Default kommt
er nicht rauf.
Ciao
Martin
From: Karl-Heinz Krempels <charlie@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Rhapsody auf Clones
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:17:19 +0100
Organization: University of Technology Aachen
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Hi,
ist es denn schon jemanden gelungen, die DR2 auf einem Clone zu
installieren?
Gruss Charlie.
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From: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Next TCP/IP ausgebremst?
Date: 24 Nov 1998 15:08:31 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <73ei5f$5kv$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Hallo,
die Netzwerkverbindungen nach ausserhalb des Wissenschaftsnetzes
werden gerade mal wieder langsamer und langsamer.
Mit OmniWeb tagsueber eine Web-Seite aus den USA zu holen ist bei uns
inzwischen schon fast wieder unmoeglich.
Was mich aber verwundert und beunruhigt, ist dass unter Windows 95/98
auf der selben Hardware der liebe "Internet-Explorer" damit weniger
Probleme zu haben scheint.
Da auch die Downloads mit Hilfe von wget (*) unter Nextstep/Openstep
nicht schneller gehen als bei Omniweb, scheint es nicht unbedingt ein
Problem dieses speziellen Programmes zu sein.
Mit einem Freund (Hallo Axel) haben wir nun die Hypothese aufgestellt,
dass es evtl. grundsaetzlich an der TCP/IP-Ebene des Nextschen
Betriebssystemes liegen koennte. Je staerker das Netz ausgelastet ist,
desto haeufiger gehen Pakete verloren und muessen erneut angefordert
werden. Evtl. hat Nextstep hier groessere Timeout-Zeiten bzw. Windows
geht beim erneuten Anfordern energischer, in diesem Fall aber mit
groesserem Erfolg, vor. Kann jemand diese Beobachtung bestaetigen oder
widerlegen? Kann man das Verhalten von Nextstep evtl. irgendwo
optimieren, was die Timeouts angeht?
Dirk
PS: Omniweb wartet gerade wieder mal vergeblich seit 5 Minuten auf den
Rest der Seite von fireball. So ist es einfach nicht mehr benutzbar!
PPS: wget ist ein Kommandozeilenprogramm, mit dem man Netzinhalte per
HTTP oder FTP im Hintergrund runterladen kann.
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: 4 Gigabyte Limit
Date: 24 Nov 1998 16:41:41 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <73enk5$369$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.981118125549.290A-100000@ibm> <72v7pr$q7$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <73497u$294$3@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> : Eine 4GB-Grenze fuer Festplatten gab es nie, die 2GB-Grenze fuer
> : Partitionen laesst sich nicht umgehen.
>
> Gewagte Aussage, Uli.
>
> Ab 4 GB macht OPENSTEP ganz merkwuerdige Sachen beim Installieren.
> Siehe mein Posting unter dem Subject: Re: Openstep auf Partition am
> Plattenende bei 5GB-Platte und W95
> von eben.
Zu OPENSTEP kann ich nix sagen. Ebenso sind all meine Erfahrungen MS-frei.
NEXTSTEP 3.3 aber betreibe ich jedenfalls selbst ohne jegliches Problem oder
spezielle Vorkehrungen auf einer automatisch korrekt partitionierten
5,2 GB-Platte, und aehnliche Konfigurationen mit Platten zwischen 5 und 9 GB
laufen auch bei Freunden von mir voellig problemlos.
Tschau
Uli
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: 4 Gigabyte Limit
Date: 24 Nov 1998 19:57:32 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <73f33c$f5s$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.981118125549.290A-100000@ibm> <72v7pr$q7$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <73497u$294$3@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <73enk5$369$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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Uli Zappe <uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote:
: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
: > : Eine 4GB-Grenze fuer Festplatten gab es nie, die 2GB-Grenze fuer
: > : Partitionen laesst sich nicht umgehen.
: >
: > Gewagte Aussage, Uli.
: >
: > Ab 4 GB macht OPENSTEP ganz merkwuerdige Sachen beim Installieren.
: > Siehe mein Posting unter dem Subject: Re: Openstep auf Partition am
: > Plattenende bei 5GB-Platte und W95
: > von eben.
: Zu OPENSTEP kann ich nix sagen. Ebenso sind all meine Erfahrungen MS-frei.
: NEXTSTEP 3.3 aber betreibe ich jedenfalls selbst ohne jegliches Problem oder
: spezielle Vorkehrungen auf einer automatisch korrekt partitionierten
: 5,2 GB-Platte, und aehnliche Konfigurationen mit Platten zwischen 5 und 9 GB
: laufen auch bei Freunden von mir voellig problemlos.
Hmmm. Evtl. gibt es da Unterschiede zwischen SCSI und EIDE-Platten.
Da ich in mein Notebook aber keine SCSI-Platte einbauen kann...
Also, die beschriebenen Probleme traten bei mir mit einer 6.4 GB
EIDE Festplatte von IBM unter OPENSTEP 4.2/Intel auf.
3.3 auf einem Notebook zu installieren, erfordert aber dann doch
Zauberkuenste und magisch praeparierte Zutaten (und zaubern tue ich nur an
speziellen Tagen :-).
Axel
From: Gunther Weber <info@stockconsult.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: V: NeXT Hardware
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:54:40 -0800
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From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Rhapsody auf Clones
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:26:34 +0100
Organization: University of Bonn, Germany
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Hi!
Karl-Heinz Krempels <charlie@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> ist es denn schon jemanden gelungen, die DR2 auf einem Clone zu
> installieren?
Soweit ich weiß nicht..
Die Pulsars gehen z.B. definitiv nicht.
Andererseits: Nimm's locker. Auch Apple hat derzeit KEINEN Rechner im
Angebot, auf dem DR2 (das letzte offizielle developer-release) läuft.
:-(
Dirk
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From: agrewe@efi-nms.de (Andreas Grewe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: ATI Rage Pro Driver
Date: 25 Nov 1998 12:37:02 GMT
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Hallo,
ich habe eben eine ATI XPERT@WORK (AGP, 4 MB) in meinen Rechner eingebaut und
versuche nun, die Karte im 1600 x 1200 x 75 Hz zum Laufen zu bringen.
Nachdem die Treiber aus den NeXTanswers 2528 (Juni 98) bzw. 2057 (Februar 98)
vollständig den Dienst verweigerten, habe ich den Treiber aus NeXTanswers
2675 (September 98) installiert. Dabei muß es sich wohl um einen recht
schnell zurechtgepatchten Treiber handeln, denn die Beschreibung weist ihn
als Version 4.01 für OS 4.1 aus und von AGP ist dort auch nicht die Rede.
Nichts desto trotz arbeitet der Treiber bei Auflösungen bis 1600 x 1280 x 60
Hz einwandfrei, nur bei 75 Hz schaltet der Monitor (Elsa Ecomo 19H98) nach
dem Umschalten in den Grafikmodus ab und findet kein Eingangssignal mehr. Am
Monitor kann es nicht liegen, der funktioniert mit einer Matrox Mystique bei
gleicher Auflösung und Wiederholrate bestens, die Reserve beträgt mindestens
4 KHz.
Weiß jemand, ob es noch einen neueren ATI-Treiber gibt oder hat irgendwer gar
den Treiber für sich bei dieser Auflösung angepaßt?
Gruss
Andreas Grewe
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Next TCP/IP ausgebremst?
Date: 25 Nov 1998 16:54:29 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
Message-ID: <73hco5$2jq$1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
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dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans) wrote:
> die Netzwerkverbindungen nach ausserhalb des Wissenschaftsnetzes
> werden gerade mal wieder langsamer und langsamer.
Oh, und ich dachte, das waere nur ein Problem meiner Uni in FfM hier. Hier
ist in den letzten ca. 4 Wochen ein dermassen eklatante (und in dieser Form
noch nie dagewesene) Verschlechterung eingetreten, dass ich mich gerade nach
einem privaten Provider umsehe, da so der Internet-Betrieb einfach unmoeglich
ist.
Ich kann Eure Beocbachtung bestaetigen, dass das nix mit OmniWeb zu tun hat.
wget hat auch bei mir dasselbe Resultat. Ergaenzen kann ich noch das Holen
von Webseiten mittels Perl-Library und telnet-Verbindungen. Ueberall dasselbe
Disaster, waehrend es ueber kommerzielle Provider nur so flutscht.
> Mit einem Freund (Hallo Axel) haben wir nun die Hypothese aufgestellt,
> dass es evtl. grundsaetzlich an der TCP/IP-Ebene des Nextschen
> Betriebssystemes liegen koennte. Je staerker das Netz ausgelastet ist,
> desto haeufiger gehen Pakete verloren und muessen erneut angefordert
> werden. Evtl. hat Nextstep hier groessere Timeout-Zeiten bzw. Windows
> geht beim erneuten Anfordern energischer, in diesem Fall aber mit
> groesserem Erfolg, vor. Kann jemand diese Beobachtung bestaetigen oder
> widerlegen? Kann man das Verhalten von Nextstep evtl. irgendwo
> optimieren, was die Timeouts angeht?
Da weiss ich leider auch nix. :-(
Tschau
Uli
PS: Was zum Teufel kann zu einem derartigen Performance-Einbruch innerhalb
weniger Wochen fuehren???
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From: Gunther Weber <Gunther.Weber@gmx.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Next TCP/IP ausgebremst?
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:23:05 -0800
Organization: CIPIC
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Uli Zappe wrote:
>
> dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans) wrote:
> > die Netzwerkverbindungen nach ausserhalb des Wissenschaftsnetzes
> > werden gerade mal wieder langsamer und langsamer.
>
> Oh, und ich dachte, das waere nur ein Problem meiner Uni in FfM hier. Hier
> ist in den letzten ca. 4 Wochen ein dermassen eklatante (und in dieser Form
> noch nie dagewesene) Verschlechterung eingetreten, dass ich mich gerade nach
> einem privaten Provider umsehe, da so der Internet-Betrieb einfach unmoeglich
> ist.
Das scheint wirklich ein allgemeines Problem zu sein. Auch wenn man
versucht, von den USA auf das Win zuzugreifen ist das unertraeglich. Das
nervt besonders, wenn man doch oefter mal Daten von seiner "Heimatuni"
holen moechte. Die Kommerziellen Anbieter sind gut zu erreichen (z.B.
www.heise.de und so). Sobald es aber ins Win geht wird es grausam. Wenn
man ping glauben schenken kann, dann scheint das aber weniger an der
Roundtrip-time zu liegen (die ist in beiden Faellen etwa gleich),
sondern vielmehr daran, dass ca. 50% aller Pakete verloren gehen.
Manchmal ist es mit nur 30% Paketverlust besser, aber in Spitzenzeiten
hatte ich schon 70% !! Paketverlust. Wenn irgendjemand weis, wieso das
in letzter Zeit so schlimm ist waere es nett, wenn er dies mal mitteilen
wuerde....
Bis dann
Gunther
From: agnus@amylnd.s.bawue.de (Matthias Zepf)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: 25 Nov 1998 09:56:08 GMT
Organization: Lokaler News-in-Dosen-Server auf amylnd.
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References: <70vso9$24d$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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Helge Hess wrote in <364CD3A9.763B7C9F@mdlink.de> on 1998-11-14
01:49:45 +0100:
> Was ist an 4.0 so spannend ? Vor kurzen hat in der WO Mailing
> Liste ein Apple Mensch die WebObjects Release Notes gepostet,
> die einzige wesentliche Erweiterung scheint MultiThreading zu
> sein. Das war sowieso schon seit langem faellig.
Hä? Also ich habe die Release Notes nicht gelesen, aber bereits
einen umfangreichen Prototyp mit WO 4.0 (Beta) gebaut und finde es
ziemlich lässig, mit dem Interface Builder meine Java-Applets zu
entwerfen (die dann in gewisser Weise in Swing konvertiert werden).
Außerdem finde ich es reichlich nett, große Teile des Foundation
Framework und des EOF in Java auf Client-Seite verwenden zu können.
Ich halte die Neuerungen in WO 4.0 für sehr umfangreich.
Matthias
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: YellowBox/Rhapsoy als Quellcode?
Date: 25 Nov 1998 10:30:32 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de/
Message-ID: <73gm88$44u$2@alice.turbocat.de>
References: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981117014357.29415C-100000@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de> <1diwsl1.wl3v5f1syibjjN@pec-5.au1.m.uunet.de>
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w_keller@gmx.de (Wolfgang Keller) wrote:
>Freigegeben wird afaik nur der Sourcecode für die BSD-Anteile, die
>sowieso weitestgehend identisch zu bereits frei erhältlichen
>BSD-Systemen sind.
War doch klar. MacOS X hat viel von NetBSD geklaut und jetzt wollen die das
debugt haben um mal stabil zu sein.
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Rhapsody auf Clones
Date: 25 Nov 1998 10:31:53 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de/
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Karl-Heinz Krempels <charlie@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
>Hi,
>ist es denn schon jemanden gelungen, die DR2 auf einem Clone zu
>installieren?
>Gruss Charlie.
Ja aber NFS ging nicht, es flog also wieder in die Tonne.
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From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Next TCP/IP ausgebremst?
Date: 25 Nov 1998 10:25:03 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de/
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dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans) wrote:
>Mit einem Freund (Hallo Axel) haben wir nun die Hypothese aufgestellt,
>dass es evtl. grundsaetzlich an der TCP/IP-Ebene des Nextschen
>Betriebssystemes liegen koennte. Je staerker das Netz ausgelastet ist,
>desto haeufiger gehen Pakete verloren und muessen erneut angefordert
>werden. Evtl. hat Nextstep hier groessere Timeout-Zeiten bzw. Windows
>geht beim erneuten Anfordern energischer, in diesem Fall aber mit
>groesserem Erfolg, vor. Kann jemand diese Beobachtung bestaetigen oder
>widerlegen? Kann man das Verhalten von Nextstep evtl. irgendwo
>optimieren, was die Timeouts angeht?
Hast Du schon mal an einen caching Proxy gedacht?
Laeuft der unter Windows? Sicher nicht.
Meine USA-Seiten gehen schnell :-)
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From: rubsamen <marcus@pro-audio.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: No subject was specified.
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:39:06 +0200
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Hallo,
ich suche für einen Freund ein "relativ" guenstiges Modem für eine
schwarze TurboStattion. Das Modem, sollte mit NXFax tun und trotzdem
28,8 k oder mehr können. Gibt es so etwas? Ich habe zum Faxen noch ein
uraltes Zyxel 1496. War aber (zumindest damals) schweineteuer und aus
heutiger Sicht langsam.
Danke für Euere Hilfe,
Marcus
From: joergk@olof.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Joerg Kollmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: disktab (Platten partitionieren)
Date: 26 Nov 1998 11:33:00 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
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Axel Habermann (kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de) wrote:
: Vorschlag also:
[...]
: So in etwa.
Vielen Dank, guter Vorschlag. So hat es funktioniert.
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From: rubsamen <marcus@pro-audio.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Modem =?iso-8859-1?Q?f=FCr?= schwarze Hardware
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:36:17 +0200
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Dieses Mal mit Subject. Sorry!
Hallo,
ich suche für einen Freund ein "relativ" guenstiges Modem für eine
schwarze TurboStattion. Das Modem, sollte mit NXFax tun und trotzdem
28,8 k oder mehr können. Gibt es so etwas? Ich habe zum Faxen noch ein
uraltes Zyxel 1496. War aber (zumindest damals) schweineteuer und aus
heutiger Sicht langsam.
Danke für Euere Hilfe,
Marcus
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Modem für schwarze Hardware
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:37:39 +0100
Organization: Lavielle
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rubsamen wrote:
> Dieses Mal mit Subject. Sorry!
>
> Hallo,
>
> ich suche für einen Freund ein "relativ" guenstiges Modem für eine
> schwarze TurboStattion. Das Modem, sollte mit NXFax tun und trotzdem
> 28,8 k oder mehr können. Gibt es so etwas? Ich habe zum Faxen noch ein
> uraltes Zyxel 1496. War aber (zumindest damals) schweineteuer und aus
> heutiger Sicht langsam.
>
> ...
Das sollte kein Problem sein. Ich habe mir vor geraumer Zeit z.B. ein "Zoom V34"
Modem bei PearlAgency gekauft, welches damals DM 118.- gekostet hatte und 5
Jahre Garantie (von der Fa. Zoom aus) hat. Dieses Modem hängt immer noch an
meiner NeXTstation und arbeitet weiterhin fleißig mit NXFax, Gatekeeper + ppp
etc. zusammen.
Modems bekommt man heute in der Regel von überall hinterhergeschmissen, sprich
sie kosten immer weniger. Für NXFax sollte man u.U. darauf achten, daß das Modem
einen Rockwell Chipsatz benutzt (näheres läßt sich dem NXFax Addendum entnehmen,
einer Textdatei welche man auf den gängigen NS servern finden kann).
Gruß Valentino
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From: Ssonnic@iname.com (Christoph)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Routing...?!
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:32:48 +0100
Organization: Hamburg University of Technology
Message-ID: <Ssonnic-2611982032480001@192.168.1.2>
Hi,
könnte mir jemand bitte erklären wie das mit dem routing bei Rhapsody DR2
funktioniert? Ich habe zwar alle Einstellungen mit dem NetManager gemacht,
die richtigen Treiber für meine Netzwerkkarte installiert, aber leider
kann ich keinen anderen Rechner im Netz anpingen oder telneten. Die
Netzwerkkarte ( NE2000 ) wird gefunden und es gibt sonst auch keinerlei
Fehlermeldungen, auch in den logs steht nichts!
Any ideas?
Thanx in advance!
cu Christoph
From: Ralf Mueting <mueting@tfh-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Q: IBM DORS 1GB unvertraeglich mit NeXT-Station ?
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:15:35 +0100
Organization: TFH-Berlin (Berlin, Germany)
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Hi Folk's
mein Wunsch ist eine Neuinstallation von NextStep 3.2 auf schwarzer
Hardware. Als Boot-Festplatte habe ich mir neuwertige IBM DORS 1GB
ausgesucht. Die Installation scheitert an der Formatierung (oder/und
Partitionierung) der Platte waehrend der Installation. Ich erhalte
Fehlermeldungen über einen nicht vorhandenen Bootsektor sowie über
misslingende Schreibzugriffe. Letzendlich endet die Liste der
Fehlemeldungen mit einem Abruch der Neuinstallation. Die
Platteoberfläche habe ich zwischen den Versuchen mit Hilfe eines
SCSI-Hostadapters ueberprueft. Auch eine Partitionierung und
anschliessende Formatierung der Platte auf einer DOS-Büchse war
erfolgreich. Ich hoffe ich werde mit Loesungsvorschlaegen von Euch nur
so ueberhaeuft.
Danke im Voraus
Ralf.
Replys to: mueting@tfh-berlin.de
From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Rhapsody auf Clones
Date: 26 Nov 1998 17:18:24 GMT
Organization: STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting, Germany
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In <1dj1321.1aioykxqu9w74N@ascend-tk-p70.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Dirk Theisen
wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Karl-Heinz Krempels <charlie@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> > ist es denn schon jemanden gelungen, die DR2 auf einem Clone zu
> > installieren?
>
> Soweit ich weiß nicht..
> Die Pulsars gehen z.B. definitiv nicht.
>
> Andererseits: Nimm's locker. Auch Apple hat derzeit KEINEN Rechner im
> Angebot, auf dem DR2 (das letzte offizielle developer-release) läuft.
Falsch! Auf den G3 desktops läuft DR2 wunderbar!
Gerald
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Routing...?!
Date: 27 Nov 1998 01:11:07 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Christoph <Ssonnic@iname.com> wrote:
: Hi,
: könnte mir jemand bitte erklären wie das mit dem routing bei Rhapsody DR2
: funktioniert? Ich habe zwar alle Einstellungen mit dem NetManager gemacht,
: die richtigen Treiber für meine Netzwerkkarte installiert, aber leider
: kann ich keinen anderen Rechner im Netz anpingen oder telneten. Die
: Netzwerkkarte ( NE2000 ) wird gefunden und es gibt sonst auch keinerlei
: Fehlermeldungen, auch in den logs steht nichts!
Was sagt 'ifconfig -a'?
Siehst Du en0?
Hat es die richtigen Parameter?
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: IBM DORS 1GB unvertraeglich mit NeXT-Station ?
Date: 27 Nov 1998 01:13:49 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <73kucd$eo8$2@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Ralf Mueting <mueting@tfh-berlin.de> wrote:
: Hi Folk's
: mein Wunsch ist eine Neuinstallation von NextStep 3.2 auf schwarzer
: Hardware. Als Boot-Festplatte habe ich mir neuwertige IBM DORS 1GB
: ausgesucht. Die Installation scheitert an der Formatierung (oder/und
: Partitionierung) der Platte waehrend der Installation. Ich erhalte
: Fehlermeldungen über einen nicht vorhandenen Bootsektor sowie über
: misslingende Schreibzugriffe. Letzendlich endet die Liste der
: Fehlemeldungen mit einem Abruch der Neuinstallation. Die
: Platteoberfläche habe ich zwischen den Versuchen mit Hilfe eines
: SCSI-Hostadapters ueberprueft. Auch eine Partitionierung und
: anschliessende Formatierung der Platte auf einer DOS-Büchse war
: erfolgreich. Ich hoffe ich werde mit Loesungsvorschlaegen von Euch nur
: so ueberhaeuft.
Die 2 GB DORS laeuft doch ganz gut in einer Station.
Hmm. Was gibt es an der Platte fuer Jumper? Parity falsch gesetzt?
Manche Platten versuchen eine Sync-Negotiation, die die Station
aber nicht versteht. Kann man evtl. auch per Jumper abschalten.
Evtl. (wenn es dumm laeuft) musst Du mit einem Mode-Page-Editor
ein paar Parameter verbiegen. Welche genau, weiss ich dummerweise
auch gerade nicht.
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From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Rhapsody auf Clones
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 02:39:28 +0100
Organization: University of Bonn, Germany
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Gerald Erdmann <gerald@stepman.com> wrote:
> > Andererseits: Nimm's locker. Auch Apple hat derzeit KEINEN Rechner im
> > Angebot, auf dem DR2 (das letzte offizielle developer-release) läuft.
>
> Falsch! Auf den G3 desktops läuft DR2 wunderbar!
Falsch! Nur auf den alten. Nicht auf denen, die man derzeit kaufen kann
(Rev. 3). Been there...
OpenFirmware-Problem.
Traurig, aber wahr. Siehe dazu die vielen Mails von frustrierten
Entwicklern auf der macosx-admin-liste.
Gruß
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From: Robert Fischer <fischer@fokus.gmd.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: NXHost nach OPENSTEP/NT
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:55:03 +0100
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Hi,
frueher ging das mal auf meiner NT-Buechse, aber nachdem ich (nach einem
Rhapsody Intermezzo) OPENSTEP Enterprise wieder installier habe, bekomme ich nur
noch
>> /NextApps/Edit.app/Edit -NXHost hostname
DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host hostname
Habt Ihr einen Tip? Beide Rechner liegen uebrigens im selben Netzsegment.
Gruss, Robert
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ATI Rage Pro Driver
Date: 27 Nov 1998 09:29:38 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / CC
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In article <73gtle$33l$1@queens.netuse.de> agrewe@efi-nms.de (Andreas Grewe)
writes:
> ich habe eben eine ATI XPERT@WORK (AGP, 4 MB) in meinen Rechner eingebaut und
> versuche nun, die Karte im 1600 x 1200 x 75 Hz zum Laufen zu bringen.
>
> Nachdem die Treiber aus den NeXTanswers 2528 (Juni 98) bzw. 2057 (Februar 98)
> vollst ndig den Dienst verweigerten, habe ich den Treiber aus NeXTanswers
> 2675 (September 98) installiert. Dabei mu es sich wohl um einen recht
> schnell zurechtgepatchten Treiber handeln, denn die Beschreibung weist ihn
> als Version 4.01 f r OS 4.1 aus und von AGP ist dort auch nicht die Rede.
Wir haben hier auch gerade 3 Maschinen mit ATI Xpert@work
in Betrieb genommen. Wir verwenden den "4.03" Treiber,
mussten aber bei den Auto-Detect IDs die der Karte zusaetzlich
im Treiber eintragen. Bei uns ist es die 0x47421002, die wir
in Default.table und den 3 PCI?MB.table Dateien einfach
per Editor zu den "Auto Detect IDs" mit zugefuegt haben.
Da diese Nummern vom Hersteller schon mal geaendert werden
(wg. neuer Chip revision oder sowas) sind die NS/OS Treiber
bei diesen Nummern nicht immer up to date, funktionieren
aber meist dennoch mit den neueren Karten.
Welche ID die Karte hat sieht man beim Booten oder in
/usr/adm/messages, fuer die ATI bei uns:
Nov 26 15:09:39 nimrod mach: Found PCI 2.1 device: ID=0x47421002/0x00801002
at Dev=0 Func=0 Bus=1
Da stehen i.d.R. mehrere solche Zeilen, AGP erkennt man
an "Bus=1".
Mit dem gleichen Trick haben wir eine SoundBlaster ISA-Karte
"Creative ViBRA16X PnP Audio" halbwegs ans laufen bekommen.
Hier mussten wir aber gleich mehrere IDs (diesmal von
PnP und nicht von PCI) eintragen, und zwar alle die von
EISA.config/PnPdump fuer die Karte ausgegeben wurden,
die "Haupt"-Nummer allein reichte nicht. (Bei uns waren
das CTL00f0, CTL0043 und CTL7005.) Dennoch funktioniert
die Karte nur mit 8bit DMA und auch nur ein Kanal (rechts).
Weiss jemand dazu eine bessere Loesung ?
Gruss
Detlev
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From: Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Frage.
Date: 27 Nov 1998 21:37:18 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
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Sascha <skoepplin@berg.net> wrote:
: Hey,
: was ist ne NeXt Station Turbo Mono,
NeXT Maschine im Pizzabox Design (also flaches, quadratisches GehÙuse),
man kann nur einen Mono Monitor anschlieûen und das ganze lÙuft mit
einem 68040/33MHz, wenn es eine normale Kiste wÙre wörde sie nur einen
68040/25Mhz haben.
: ist diese in schwarz/weiß oder was.
schwarz
: Kann man auf dieser Linux installieren?
Nein, es gibt zwar wohl einige Projekte, die sich damit beschÙftigen,
aber noch keine Ergebnisse. Auûerdem gibt es för diese Maschinen
NeXTstep und das ist auch ziemlich cool (oder vielleicht sogar cooler :) )
Gruû,
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From: Sascha <skoepplin@berg.net>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Frage.
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:46:42 +0100
Organization: NDH Netzwerkdienste Hoeger GmbH
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Hey,
was ist ne NeXt Station Turbo Mono, ist diese in schwarz/weiß oder was.
Kann man auf dieser Linux installieren?
mfg
Sascha
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From: hauke@Espresso.Rhein-Neckar.DE (Hauke Fath)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: YellowBox/Rhapsoy als Quellcode?
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:19:52 +0100
Organization: Einzeln auftretender Radfahrer
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David Wetzel <dave@turbocat.de> wrote:
> w_keller@gmx.de (Wolfgang Keller) wrote:
>
> >Freigegeben wird afaik nur der Sourcecode für die BSD-Anteile, die
> >sowieso weitestgehend identisch zu bereits frei erhältlichen
> >BSD-Systemen sind.
>
> War doch klar. MacOS X hat viel von NetBSD geklaut und jetzt wollen die das
> debugt haben um mal stabil zu sein.
=8)
Das betrifft allerdings vor allem das userland, nicht den Kernel.
Aber was heißt "geklaut"?
"The BSD license is about sharing code." -- Anders als der General
Public Virus hat die BSD-Lizenz kaum weltanschaulichen Überbau, sondern
geht einfach davon aus, daß gemeinsam genutzter Code allen Vorteil
bringt. Das schließt eine kommerzielle Nutzung explizit nicht aus. Und
wenn das Projekt einen kritischen Umfang überschreitet, ist es
wirtschaftlicher, wenn der kommerzielle Nutzer seine Änderungen zur
allgemeinen Verwendung freigibt. Er erspart sich damit, das Wachstum der
genutzten Codebasis nachvollziehen und integrieren zu müssen.
Siehe dazu auch die längliche Diskussion in comp.unix.advocacy vor
einigen Wochen, insbesondere Stellungnahmen von John Dyson und Terry
Lambert (beide FreeBSD.ORG).
hauke
--
NetBSD/mac68k für Macintosh.
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: No subject was specified.
Date: 27 Nov 1998 06:32:21 GMT
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In <365D13A6.68D661FE@pro-audio.com> rubsamen wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> ich suche für einen Freund ein "relativ" guenstiges Modem für eine
> schwarze TurboStattion. Das Modem, sollte mit NXFax tun und trotzdem
> 28,8 k oder mehr können. Gibt es so etwas? Ich habe zum Faxen noch ein
> uraltes Zyxel 1496. War aber (zumindest damals) schweineteuer und aus
> heutiger Sicht langsam.
Ich hab das 1496 durch ein 2864 (bei mir ISDN) ersetzt und bin sehr zufrieden
damit. Es ist natürlich nicht gerade das billigste Modem. Für NXFax muß man
ein AT-Kommando in die Default Database eintragen, dann klappt's auch mit dem
Nachbarn.
--
Navigator Markus Wenzel - IT Consulting
http://www.navigator.de/
From: Ralf Mueting <mueting@tfh-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: IBM DORS 1GB unvertraeglich mit NeXT-Station ?
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:36:26 +0100
Organization: TFH-Berlin (Berlin, Germany)
Message-ID: <3660268A.2A224F8F@tfh-berlin.de>
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To: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Hi Axel,
dank Dir fuer deine schnelle Antwort. Bei der Platte handelt es sich um eine
1GB DORS in OEM-Version.
Es ist mir unmoeglich auch nur ein Byte ueber die NeXT-Hardware auf die
Platte zu bringen. Alle Schreibversuche misslingen. Die Jumper sind richtig
gesetzt und es gibt keine Moeglichkeit die Sync-Negotiation ueber einen
Jumper zu beeinflussen. Eine Liste der moeglichen Mode-Page-Kommandos liegt
mir vor. Hast du vielleicht eine Quelle fuer einen Page-Mode-Editor
(ungeachtet des Betriebssystems) ?
danke im Voraus
Ralf
From: Ralf Mueting <mueting@tfh-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Q: kompatibele Festplatten fuer NeXT-Station (500MB-2GB) ?
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:43:12 +0100
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Hi Folk's
mailt oder postet mir bitte ein Link oder eine andere Quelle, die eine
Liste kompatibeler Festplatten bieten.
Oder mailt mir die Euch bekannten, in einer NeXT-Station lauffaehigen
Platten mit einer Kapazitaet zwischen 500MB und 2GB.
danke im Voraus
Ralf
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: 4 Gigabyte Limit
Message-ID: <F36p5E.29o@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <73497u$294$3@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:53:37 GMT
> In article <73497u$294$3@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann
> <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> writes: Uli Zappe
> <uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote: : Nik Wiesel
> <uzs198@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> wrote: : > Hallo, kann man unter
> OS4.2 irgendwie die 4 G-byte Grenze fuer : > Festplatten oder
> die 2 G-Byte grenze fuer Partitionen umgehen?
>
> : Eine 4GB-Grenze fuer Festplatten gab es nie, die 2GB-Grenze
> fuer : Partitionen laesst sich nicht umgehen.
>
> Gewagte Aussage, Uli.
>
> Ab 4 GB macht OPENSTEP ganz merkwuerdige Sachen beim Installieren.
> Siehe mein Posting unter dem Subject: Re: Openstep auf Partition
> am Plattenende bei 5GB-Platte und W95 von eben.
>
> OPENSTEP hat auch ganz munter eine 1.25 GB Partition mit einem
> 2.5 GB grossen Dateisystem ausgestattet und konnte prima drauf
> rumschreiben. Ich habe die Aktion dann vorsichtshalber abgebrochen
> und ein Filesystem mit der richtigen Groesse installiert.
>
> Axel
>
Wie immer steckt ein Quaentchen Wahrheit in beiden Aussagen. Das liegt
einfach daran, dass die Materie etwas verzwickt ist.
Das BSD, das unter unserem gliebten NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP liegt (wie auch
BIOS) wurden zu einer Zeit geschrieben als man Plattensektoren noch
physisch adressiert hat. Die Filesysteme im BSD (im DOS) legen dann aber
eine Abstraktionschicht drueber, die eine sequenzielle Adressierung
vortaeuschen. Wer sich die man-pages zu den Filesystem-Utilities genau
durchliest sieht dies noch deutlich durchscheinen. Z.B. die cylinder
groups, interleave factors etc.
Partitionen waren dabei ein Mittel Struktur in die sequenzielle
Adressierung zu bringen. Eine Platte wurde in diesem Schema in der disktab
physisch beschrieben und das Resultat (die vom Treiber optimal abgebildete
Sequenz von Bloecken) ueber die Partitionierung in guenstig verwaltbare
Teile zerteilt. Eine Partition ist dabei im Wesentlichen ein Tupel aus
Startblock und Blockanzahl (den Rest unterschlagen wir mal). Eine Platte
hat immer acht Partitionen (Buchstaben a bis h), die beliebig zu liegen
kommen koennen, Es ist Aufgabe des Sysadmin dafuer zu sorgen, dass die
Konfiguration Sinn macht, das Filesystem schert sich einen Dreck um die
Konsistenz.
Mit der Einfuehrung von SCSI und EIDE wurde das Geschaeft fuer die
Filesysteme mehr und mehr undurchsichtig da entweder aus der Not oder aus
der Tugend (EIDE bzw. SCSI ;-) eine Abbildung zwischen physische und
anscheinende Blockadressierung gelegt wurde. Seither sind Fehler bei der
Treiber-Parametrierung zwar nicht mehr grundsaetzlich toedlich,
beeinflussen nun aber die Performanz des Filesystems, sofern die Werte
nicht zutreffen. Die Ermittlung der richtigen Parameter ist deshalb immer
mehr zur Kunst geworden.
Nun kommen zwei weitere "unvorhergesehene" Ereignisse ins Spiel: Unix wird
dem Endnutzer (auch Dumm-User genannt) angetragen und die Plattenspeicher
werden immer groesser. Auf beide war BSD nicht recht vorbereitet.
Um mit dem ersten Ereignis klar zu kommen weden immer schlauere
Konfigurationswerkzeuge und Installationsprozeduren erfunden. Da man's
aber leider nicht schafft eine geschlossene Loesung zu finden mussten
Heuristiken herhalten. Die sind zwar ganz praktisch und nuetzlich wenn es
darum geht den "einfachen Fall" abzuhandeln, aber wenn die Heuristik auf
die Fresse faellt ist Karle Dummuser halt ganz besonders geplaettet (keine
Implikationen fuer meine Vor-Poster beabsichtigt!)...
BTW, ich hab's damals mit der Einfuehrung von "newfs" schon kommen sehen,
dass eines Tages keiner mehr weiss, wie man ein Filesystem richtig
parametriert (und ich hab's mittlerweile auch schon verlernt ;-)
Man haette halt bei "mkfs" bleiben sollen. Ach was das noch Zeiten als man
als Unixer noch wusste wie mein einen Kernel linkt... (ROTFL)
Tja, und wegen der immer groesser werden Platten: Wenn NeXT damals nicht
aller Gewalt versucht haete alle halbe Jahre einen neuen Markt zu
erorbern, sondern eine ordentliche Wartung fuer den Kernel und die
Filesystem- Utilities betrieben haette, muessten wir uns derzeit nicht
alle mit Zaehlerueberlaeufen und Falschanzeigen rumquaelen.
Nun aber nach all dem Rumdozieren und Gejammer: Praktisch bleibt einem nur
eine sichere Methode, um NS/OS zu installieren. Man mu mit einer knapp
1GB grossen Platte anfangen und wenn das System dann zum Laufen gekommen
ist eine groessere Platte anschliessen, mehr oder weniger von Hand sauber
Partitionieren (incl. Boot-Partition) und die Filesysteme einrichten. Dann
kann man das NS/OS einspielen und den Rechner endgueltig zusammenbauen.
Alle anderen Wege sind aehnlich wackelige Heuristiken wie die, die bereits
beim ersten Mal in die Gruetze giengen.
--
Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,maus.sys.next,maus.sys.mac,bln.termine,bln.comp.misc,de.comp.sys.mac
Subject: TREFFEN: Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) am 7. Dezember 1998
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next
Date: 29 Nov 1998 16:21:37 GMT
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EINLADUNG ZUM TREFFEN DER BERLINER NeXT USER GROUP (BeNG)
*********************************************************
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) trifft sich am
Montag, den 7. Dezember 1998, um 20.00 Uhr,
in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e. V.,
Kiautschoustrasse 18, 13353 Berlin,
wobei folgende Themen geplant sind:
CYBERSTUDIO 3.1
Praesentation von CyberStudio 3.1, des wohl derzeit besten
WYSIWYG-HTML-Editors (siehe c't 20/98). CyberStudio 3.1 gibt
es nur fuer Mac OS, bietet jedoch eine WebObjects-
Unterstuetzung fuer den Interface-Bereich an. Details zu
CyberStudio finden Sie unter www.golive.com.
MAC OS X SERVER/YELLOW BOX-FTP-SERVER EROEFFNET
Mitte November wurde ftp.beng.org offiziell fuer die
Oeffentlichkeit freigegeben. Auf dem neuen FTP-Server der
BeNG finden Sie die weltweit umfangreichste Sammlung an
Programmen rund um Rhapsody, Mac OS X Server und Apples
Entwicklungsumgebung Yellow Box.
NEXTTOYOU 3/98
Mehrere Wochen zu spaet ist Anfang November die Herbstausgabe
des NeXT- und Apple-Technologiemagazins NEXTTOYOU
(http://www.nexttoyou.de) erschienen. Wie immer stellen wir
Ausgabe kurz vor. Wer noch kein Abonnement besitzt, kann
gleich die aktuelleste Ausgabe kaeuflich erwerben.
Das Treffen steht allen NEXTSTEP und OPENSTEP- bzw. Rhapsody-
Interessierten offen, auch Einsteigern oder Leuten, die erst einmal
mehr ueber NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP und Rhapsody bzw. MacOS X, dem neuen
Betriebsssystem von Apple, erfahren wollen.
Wir treffen uns in den Raeumen des IN-Berlin e.V.
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin (Wedding)
von 20.00 bis ca. 22.00 Uhr. Die Raeume selbst befinden sich im
Erdgeschoss.
WIE KOMMT MAN HIN
Da die Kiautschoustrasse in einem Wohngebiet liegt und es
erfahrungsgemaess kaum freie Parkplaetze in der Naehe gibt,
empfehlen wir die Anfahrt mit dem Fahrrad oder mit oeffentlichen
Verkehrsmitteln.
Sie erreichen uns am besten ueber folgende Linien:
U-BAHN U 9 bis U-Bahnhof Amrumer Strasse
U 6 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
BUS 248 bis Kiautschoustrasse
221 bis Luxemburger Strasse
245 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
120 bis U-Bahnhof Wedding
Die behindertengerechten Busse der Linie 248 halten fast vor der Tuer
(50 m), bei den anderen Linien sollten Sie einen Fussweg von etwa
fuenf Minuten einplanen. Einen Fahrplan von Ihnen zur BeNG finden Sie
unter der URL http://www.fahrinfo-berlin.de.
Am \ BUS 221 ___---"""
ru \ ___-H-"""
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v \ t \ _\ r Kiautschou__---""\ \ -->
S \ r \ \ ___---""" BeNG \ \__-
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___---"" Pl.--__ \ \ __--""
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___---""""""""""""---___ Nord- "" Lynar __--""
___---""" ""-_ ufer __--""
" "-_ _--""
\ "\
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[proportionalen Font betrachtet werden] \ \
Wenn Sie einen Internet-Zugang haben, koennen Sie einen Blick auf den
entsprechenden Kartenausschnitt auf dem Server des StadtINFO-Verlags
werfen. Unter der URL http://www.beng.org/meeting.html ist eine
Umgebungskarte der Kiautschoustrasse abgebildet, auf der die
Vereinsraeume des IN-Berlin e. V. durch einen roten Kreis markiert
sind.
DAS UEBERNAECHSTE TREFFEN
Das darauffolgende Treffen findet am 7. Dezember 1998 statt. Bisher
ist nichts geplant.
UEBER BeNG
Die Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG) existiert seit 1990 und ist
ein loser Zusammenschluss von NeXT-Interessierten.
Wir betreiben mehrere Mailinglisten fuer Ankuendigungen bzw. fuer
Diskussionen rund um NeXT/Apple-Technologien, einen FTP-Server
fuer NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Programme (ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT)
und einen FTP-Server (ftp://ftp.beng.org) fuer Mac OS X Server und
die Entwicklungsumgebung Yellow Box. Naehere Informationen erhalten
sie, indem Sie eine E-Mail an about@beng.org schicken.
Wir treffen uns in der Regel am ersten Montag im Monat um 20.00 Uhr.
Wenn dieser Tag ein Feiertag ist, findet das Treffen in der
darauffolgenden Woche statt. Oft werden auch Vortraege gehalten oder
Vorfuehrungen arrangiert.
Berliner NeXT User Group (BeNG)
Kiautschoustrasse 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 39 03 93 03
Fax +49 30 / 39 03 93 04
WWW http://www.beng.org
E-Mail info@beng.org
UEBER IN-BERLIN
Das Individual Network Berlin (IN-Berlin) bietet seit 1990
Internet-Zugang zur privaten Nutzung an. IN-Berlin arbeitet nicht
gewinnorientiert und ist seit 1996 ein eingetragener Verein, der
heute ueber seine 2 MBit/s-Anbindung mehr als 630 Teilnehmer mit
Internet-Konnektivitaet versorgt.
In den Vereinsraeumen des IN-Berlin e.V. in Berlin-Wedding finden
regelmaessig Usertreffen, Schulungen und Veranstaltungen befreundeter
Gruppen, z. B. der Berliner LINUX-Usergruppe (BeLUG) oder der Berliner
NeXT User Group (BeNG), statt.
Info-Kontakt IN-Berlin e. V.
Kiautschoustr. 18
13353 Berlin
Tel +49 30 / 45 49 43 43
Fax +40 30 / 45 49 43 44
WWW http://www.in-berlin.de
E-Mail info@in-berlin.de
--
Gerald Erdmann gerald@stepman.com
_ < STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting
/ / +49 30 39731400 -401 (Fax)
\ __\ Berlin - Germany - Earth
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Meldung in der Konsole
Date: 29 Nov 1998 07:54:26 GMT
Organization: "private site"
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Hallo,
bei manchen HTML Seiten wird beim Aufruf in Omni folgendes in der Konsole
e ausgegeben:
Nov 29 08:51:07 eskimo pbs[233]: RulebookServer: No glyph generator
tSpecific^*^EuroMono-Regular' ; using Unknown-ASCII
davon kommen dann einige viele ähnliche.
Woran liegt das und was kann man dagegen machen?
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: kompatibele Festplatten fuer NeXT-Station (500MB-2GB) ?
Date: 29 Nov 1998 20:50:33 GMT
Organization: Navigator
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References: <36602820.7F678C6@tfh-berlin.de>
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Cc: mueting@tfh-berlin.de
In <36602820.7F678C6@tfh-berlin.de> Ralf Mueting wrote:
> Oder mailt mir die Euch bekannten, in einer NeXT-Station lauffaehigen
> Platten mit einer Kapazitaet zwischen 500MB und 2GB.
HP C3725S
IBM DORS-32160
Die Jumpereinstellungen sind jeweils anzupassen, insbesondere sollte man
synchrones SCSI unterbinden.
--
Navigator Markus Wenzel - IT Consulting
http://www.navigator.de/
From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Meldung in der Konsole
Date: 30 Nov 1998 12:19:16 GMT
Organization: STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting, Germany
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Cc: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de
In <73quji$dn@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Juergen Grieb wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> bei manchen HTML Seiten wird beim Aufruf in Omni folgendes in der Konsole
> e ausgegeben:
>
> Nov 29 08:51:07 eskimo pbs[233]: RulebookServer: No glyph generator
> tSpecific^*^EuroMono-Regular' ; using Unknown-ASCII
>
> davon kommen dann einige viele ähnliche.
>
> Woran liegt das und was kann man dagegen machen?
Nimm den EuroFont wieder raus! Der scheint irgendwelche Probleme zu machen
....
Gruß, Gerald
--
Gerald Erdmann gerald@stepman.com
_ < STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting
/ / +49 30 39731400 -401 (Fax)
\ __\ Berlin - Germany - Earth
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Next TCP/IP ausgebremst?
Date: 30 Nov 1998 15:57:17 GMT
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Gunther Weber <Gunther.Weber@gmx.de> wrote:
>Das scheint wirklich ein allgemeines Problem zu sein. Auch wenn man
>versucht, von den USA auf das Win zuzugreifen ist das unertraeglich.
In den Newsgruppen unseres Rechenzentrums stand die Antwort. (Sollte
man es glauben wollen). Die Übergängen vom DFN werden ausgebremst, und
zwar mit Absicht. Dies soll verhindern, dass immer mehr die Rechenzentren
der Unis benutzen, um sich anzuschliesen, anstatt auf einen kommerziellen
Provider zu setzen.
Ganz schoen heftig so eine Aussage, und ich kanns eigtl. kaum glauben,
denn ich dachte bisher immer, dass das DFN eine fest zugesicherte
Bandbreite hat ...
Viele Gruesse,
Bernhard.
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Problem mit OS 4.2, 3Com905 und Dual Pentium
Date: 30 Nov 1998 16:01:55 GMT
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martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle) wrote:
>Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com> writes
>>
>> > Hast Du das EtherlinkXK - Package installiert? Damit sollte
>> > es eigentlich gehen.
>>
>> Ist dort nicht der Treiber drin? Dann habe ich das natuerlich
>> installiert, wenn es was anderes ist: Was genau macht das Package?
>
>Ja genau. Es ist das Package mit den 3COM Treibern. Es ist aber nicht
>auf der OS-CD mit drauf.
>
Aus kann auch eine tatsächliche Inkompatibiliaet mit dem DualPentium
Board sein. Bei 3COM liest man z.B. immer mal wieder so nette
Meldungen wie: die 3C905B funktioniert nicht mit einem Asus P2B (und
auch dann nur unter Windows NT). 3COM scheint allgemein nicht so
fit beim konstruieren von Karten zu sein.
Mal abgesehen davon, wird ein Dual Prozessor System eh nicht von OS
unterstuetzt, aber das juckt Dich vielleicht gar nicht ...
Ich wuerde es unter "Phänomene des PC Altags" abschreiben.
Sorry,
Bernhard.
From: Gunther Weber <weber@millwood.cipic.ucdavis.edu>
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Subject: Re: Next TCP/IP ausgebremst?
Date: 30 Nov 1998 21:20:27 GMT
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Bernhard Scholz <scholz@leo.org> wrote:
> Gunther Weber <Gunther.Weber@gmx.de> wrote:
>>Das scheint wirklich ein allgemeines Problem zu sein. Auch wenn man
>>versucht, von den USA auf das Win zuzugreifen ist das unertraeglich.
> In den Newsgruppen unseres Rechenzentrums stand die Antwort. (Sollte
> man es glauben wollen). Die Übergängen vom DFN werden ausgebremst, und
> zwar mit Absicht. Dies soll verhindern, dass immer mehr die Rechenzentren
> der Unis benutzen, um sich anzuschliesen, anstatt auf einen kommerziellen
> Provider zu setzen.
Also wenn das stimmt ist das ja ein genialer Einfall. Es ist ja auch absolut
uninteressant fuer die Uni, dass Daten zwischen amrikanischen und deutschen
Unis mit einer sinnvollen Geschwindigkeit uebertragen werden. Zusammenarbeit
gibt es ja ueberhaupt nicht, und was in den USA geschieht ist fuer die For-
schung in Deutschland ja komplett irrelevant.. :-(
> Ganz schoen heftig so eine Aussage, und ich kanns eigtl. kaum glauben,
> denn ich dachte bisher immer, dass das DFN eine fest zugesicherte
> Bandbreite hat ...
Ich hoffe auch stark, dass das nur ein Geruecht ist....
Bis dann
Gunther
From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
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Subject: Re: Next TCP/IP ausgebremst?
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:51:36 +0100
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Bernhard Scholz <scholz@leo.org> wrote:
> In den Newsgruppen unseres Rechenzentrums stand die Antwort. (Sollte
> man es glauben wollen). Die Übergängen vom DFN werden ausgebremst, und
> zwar mit Absicht. Dies soll verhindern, dass immer mehr die Rechenzentren
> der Unis benutzen, um sich anzuschliesen, anstatt auf einen kommerziellen
> Provider zu setzen.
>
> Ganz schoen heftig so eine Aussage, und ich kanns eigtl. kaum glauben,
> denn ich dachte bisher immer, dass das DFN eine fest zugesicherte
> Bandbreite hat ...
Ich loge mich auch über die Uni ein (Bonn) und kann auch eine
verschlechterung der Performance bei vielen Verbindungen feststellen,
insbes zu den Stoßzeiten ist es teilweise unerträglich.
Dirk
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From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz)
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Subject: Re: Next TCP/IP ausgebremst?
Date: 30 Nov 1998 23:47:48 GMT
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Mittlerweile habe ich eine Aussage unseres Rechenzentrums zu der
Situation die wohl eher glaubhaft ist.
Die Situation ist wohl folgende: ab Januar will das DFN die
Ueberseleitungen ausbauen auf 155MBit (derzeit wohl so um die 90).
Der Performanceeinbruch ist aber nicht in der Bandbreite zu sehen,
sondern im Besitzerwechsels des Überseeanschlusspartners in
Washingten (MCI). Angeblich haben die neuen Betreiber Routingprobleme.
Naja. Hoffentlich ein temporäres Problem, denn auch die Caches
koennen nicht viel helfen, wenn man länger auf connects wartet
als dass Daten kommen :)
Gruesse,
Bernhard.
From: agrewe@efi-nms.de (Andreas Grewe)
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Subject: Jazz Drive
Date: 1 Dec 1998 14:46:08 GMT
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Hallo,
ich wollte nur mal nachfragen, ob es bezgl. Jazz-Drives (1 GB oder 2GB)
irgendwas unter OPENSTEP 4.2 zu beachten gibt, oder ob die Geräte anstandslos
laufen.
Gruß
Andreas Grewe
From: agrewe@efi-nms.de (Andreas Grewe)
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Subject: Mehr als ein Adaptec Controller in einem System?
Date: 1 Dec 1998 17:24:31 GMT
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Hallo,
ich habe versucht, zwei Adaptec Controller (1 x 2940 AU, 1 x 2940 UW)
gelichzeitig unter OPENSTEP 4.2 zu betreiben.
OS erkennt aber immer nur einen der beiden, und zwar denjenigen, der am
weitesten rechts in den PCI-Slots steckt. Und das, obwohl Configure.app mir
zwei Controller anzeigt (PCI Device 8 bzw. 9).
Das ist ziemlich unbefriedigend :-(
Weiß jemand Abhilfe?
Gruß
Andreas Grewe
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From: Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Problem mit OS 4.2, 3Com905 und Dual Pentium
Date: 01 Dec 1998 09:03:06 GMT
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Bernhard Scholz <scholz@leo.org> wrote:
> Aus kann auch eine tatsächliche Inkompatibiliaet mit dem DualPentium
> Board sein. Bei 3COM liest man z.B. immer mal wieder so nette
> Meldungen wie: die 3C905B funktioniert nicht mit einem Asus P2B (und
> auch dann nur unter Windows NT). 3COM scheint allgemein nicht so
> fit beim konstruieren von Karten zu sein.
Der Ruf der Firma sollte einen aber eigentlich etwas anderes vermuten lassen.
Aber das mit dem Problem 3Com<->Dual Pentium Board koennte schon sein, denn in
den Treiber READMEs fuer NT stand so etwas drin. Zuerst klappte die
Datenuebertragung unter NT auch nicht, d.h. der Treiber liess sich
installieren aber es kamen keine Daten. Das konnte ich beheben, indem ich die
VGA und die Netzwerkkarte in den jeweils anderen Slot des Mainboards steckte.
Egal, ich hake das Thema jetzt ab und werde die Loeschung der OS Installation
zugunsten von Linux empfehlen, har har :)
> Mal abgesehen davon, wird ein Dual Prozessor System eh nicht von OS
> unterstuetzt, aber das juckt Dich vielleicht gar nicht ...
> Ich wuerde es unter "Phänomene des PC Altags" abschreiben.
> Sorry,
> Bernhard.
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
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Subject: Re: Meldung in der Konsole
Date: 1 Dec 1998 06:19:17 GMT
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Gerald Erdmann wrote:
> Nimm den EuroFont wieder raus! Der scheint irgendwelche Probleme zu
chen
Und was macht man, wenn man in absehbarer Zeit das Eurozeichen braucht?
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: Re: Jazz Drive
Date: 1 Dec 1998 22:05:57 GMT
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In <740vfg$gbj$1@queens.netuse.de> Andreas Grewe wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> ich wollte nur mal nachfragen, ob es bezgl. Jazz-Drives (1 GB oder 2GB)
> irgendwas unter OPENSTEP 4.2 zu beachten gibt, oder ob die Geräte
anstandslos
> laufen.
Ja, relativ problemlos. Relativ deshalb, weil Du eine Patch aus den
NeXTAnswers brauchst. JAZ-Drives kann man nicht per scsi-Kommando nach deren
Größe befragen, drum mußt Du den sog. disktab-Entry anpassen.
Für die 1GB-Laufwerke ist der NeXTAnswers-Patch. Die die 2 GB-Laufwerke
brauchen einen modifizierten Entry. Arbeite gerade dran ...
Gerald
PS: Dies ist nur fürs Formatieren wichtig. Ansonsten arbeiten die beiden
sofort nach dem Anstecken.
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From: "Markus Wenzel" <Markus.Wenzel@brokat.de>
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Subject: Re: Problem mit OS 4.2, 3Com905 und Dual Pentium
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:15:13 +0100
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>Der Ruf der Firma sollte einen aber eigentlich etwas anderes vermuten
lassen.
Ich frage mich, wo dieser angebliche Ruf herkommt. Meine praktischen
Erfahrungen mit mehreren 3COM-Netzwerkkarten sind eher dazu geeignet, das
Gegenteil zu belegen.
From: hallmann@ls5.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Andreas Hallmann )
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Subject: Re: Next TCP/IP ausgebremst?
Date: 2 Dec 1998 13:17:51 GMT
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dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans) writes:
> Hallo,
>
> die Netzwerkverbindungen nach ausserhalb des Wissenschaftsnetzes
> werden gerade mal wieder langsamer und langsamer.
>
> Mit OmniWeb tagsueber eine Web-Seite aus den USA zu holen ist bei uns
> inzwischen schon fast wieder unmoeglich.
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In Dortmund sind die Probleme etwas kleiner.
F"ur dein Problem gibt es aber auch andere m"ogliche Gr"unde.
Z.B.: Sind z.B. sehr schnelle Rechner (schlimmer noch mit einer 100/10
ethernet-Karte) in der gleicher Kollisions-Domain ( SUN's z.B. ) kann es
auch daran liegen, dasz der NeXT-Rechner zu lahm aus dem Quark kommt.
Ich habe hier ein Netz mit 3 Suns unter NextStep und 4 Next's sowie 5
Solaris B"uchsen.
Bei der Pr"ugelei um unser 10 Mb ether haben die alten Next's schlechte
Karten. --> Viele Kolisionen. Das wirkt sich um so mehr aus, je weiter
Verbindung geht. Bei uns hat die Instalation eines Proxies auf einer
schnellen B"uchse das Problem (gegl"attet) gegl"attet.
Das "andert aber nichts an den Transatlantik-Problemen.
P.S.: Das Win hat eigene Transatlantik Leitungen, da kann keiner
reinfunken.
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From: ahoesch@on-luebeck.de (Andreas Hoeschler)
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Subject: Ws ist denn mit www.nexttoyou.de los?
Date: 3 Dec 1998 09:46:59 GMT
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Hallo,
ich bekomme schon seit einigen Tagen keinen Connect zur NeXTTOYou-Homepage.
Weiß einer, was da los ist?
Andreas
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
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Subject: Re: ATI Rage Pro Driver
Date: 3 Dec 1998 10:47:07 GMT
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Posting war bei uns fuer einige Tage nicht moeglich, daher erst
jetzt dieser Beitrag:
Unten geht's gleich mehr um Sound als um Video, ich wollte aber
das 'Subject' nicht aendern, sorry:
Detlev Droege (droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de) wrote:
:
: Mit dem gleichen Trick haben wir eine SoundBlaster ISA-Karte
: "Creative ViBRA16X PnP Audio" halbwegs ans laufen bekommen.
: Hier mussten wir aber gleich mehrere IDs (diesmal von
: PnP und nicht von PCI) eintragen, und zwar alle die von
: EISA.config/PnPdump fuer die Karte ausgegeben wurden,
: die "Haupt"-Nummer allein reichte nicht. (Bei uns waren
: das CTL00f0, CTL0043 und CTL7005.) Dennoch funktioniert
: die Karte nur mit 8bit DMA und auch nur ein Kanal (rechts).
: Weiss jemand dazu eine bessere Loesung ?
Keine bessere, aber eine Erklaerung und - ich halte es fuer
einen Fehler(!) (sprich Bug) bei der Vibra X!!! Abgesehen davon,
dass ich dagegen bin, die 'CTL...'-IDs einzutragen; das sind
naemlich eigentliche keine IDs. IDs sind die 'hex'-Zahlen
(0x...), die man immer im Dump lesen kann.
Nun zum 'Fehler': Ich habe hier den Auszug eines Dumps einer
Vibra C, die ich, wie alle SB16-Vorgaenger (SB16, (AWE)32,
(AWE)64 alle mit und ohnen PnP), als 16-Bitter zum laufen
bekommen habe, nur die Vibra X nicht (die nur als SB8)!
Hier der Auszug Vibra C:
Vendor Id CTL0070 (0xe8c0070) Serial Number 0xffffffff CheckSum 0xe5
Plug and Play Version 1.0 (Vendor 1.0)
id string(21) 'Creative ViBRA16C PnP'
Logical Device 0: Id CTL0001 (0xe8c0001)
id string(5) 'Audio'
[...]
Start dependent function 1 [acceptable configuration]
irq: 5, 7, 9, 10 [high, edge]
dma channel: 1, 3 [8 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat]
dma channel: 5, 7 [16 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat]
i/o port: 0x220..0x280 align 0x20 length 0x10 [16 lines]
i/o port: 0x300..0x330 align 0x30 length 0x2 [16 lines]
i/o port: 0x388..0x388 align 0x1 length 0x4 [16 lines]
Der Punkt auf den ich mich beziehen moechte ist die zweite
'DMA'-Eintragung: Bei allen Karten die funktionieren steht
da:
dma channel: 5, 7 [16 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat]
^^^^^^ 16 bit.
Bei denen, die's nicht tun (Vibra X) steht da '[8 bit]' und
die vom Treiber erwarteten DMA-Kanal-Werte fuer den '16 Bit'-
Betrieb, das sind (s.o.) 5, 7 und ich glaube auch 6, werden
da nicht akzeptiert, sondern dort sind nur (auch) 0, 1 und 3
erlaubt. Aus der Erinnerung:
dma channel: 1, 3 [8 bit]...
dma channel: 1, 3 [8 bit]...
Und da der Treiber damit 'nicht klar kommt', geht so "nix"
ausser 8-Bit-Betrieb (da dann 'kompatibel').
Vielleicht koennen Leser hier mal andere Sound-Karten auf dieses
Phaenonmen hin untersuchen (Angabe von nur 8Bit und der Werte
(0,) 1 und 3 fuer auch den 'hohen' DMA-Kanal). Wie oben geschrieben
halte ich es fuer einen echten(!) Fehler, dass diese Werte
so ueberhaupt angeboten werden (die AWE 64 macht's ja auch nicht!).
Mit anderen Worten: Fuer mich ist die Vibra X - Reihe eine 'Schrott-
partie'. Ich kann aber nicht mit Sicherheit sagen, ob sie's auch
'offiziell' ist. Auf jeden Fall koennten sich Kaeufer auf Grund
des geschilderten Phaenomens ja mal beschweren und versuchen, eine
Wandlung zu erreichen. Wir haben alle Vibra X durch (die aeltere)
Vibra C ersetzt oder sind zu '64'-er Karten uebergegangen.
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: IBM DORS 1GB unvertraeglich mit NeXT-Station ?
Date: 3 Dec 1998 10:48:07 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
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Ein Test der Terminierung (bei schwarzer NeXT kann man
evtl. riskieren, die Platte unterminiert zu lassen. Jedenfalls
stellt die NeXT-HW keine "Termination-Power (TrmPwr)" zur
Verfuegung!) ist immer gut!
Und dann eben das 'sync'hronous mode transfer Problem:
Folgendes aus DejaNews von (damals: 1996/11/19)
brouwer@kafka.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer)
zum Thema "Re: IBM DORS 2.1GB: does it work in black hardware?"
in "comp.sys.next.hardware":
Timothy Van Zandt wrote:
> I don't know about the ugly ctostp, but:
Explanation: SCSI2 supports synchronous and asynchronous data transfer,
SCSI1 only asynchronous. Although the NeXT has a SCSI2 connector, it is
still an SCSI1 device. Modern drives use synchronous transfer mode by
default - and there had been the rumour, that some drives are unable
to turn off this mode. This kind of drive is not SCSI1 backward
compatible and so can't be used with a NeXT.
At least this is what I heard....
[tips deleted]
>
> So far, I'm quite happy with this drive.
Good to hear...well, you have a Turbo machine....does anybody know,
whether these machines have a different SCSI-Interface (compared to the
old slabs)?
Anyway, THANK YOU!
Have a nice day,
Klaus Brouwer
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: Ssonnic@iname.com (Christoph)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Routing...?!
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 16:50:52 +0100
Organization: Hamburg University of Technology
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In article <Ssonnic-2611982032480001@192.168.1.2>, Ssonnic@iname.com
(Christoph) wrote:
> Hi,
> könnte mir jemand bitte erklären wie das mit dem routing bei Rhapsody DR2
> funktioniert? Ich habe zwar alle Einstellungen mit dem NetManager gemacht,
> die richtigen Treiber für meine Netzwerkkarte installiert, aber leider
> kann ich keinen anderen Rechner im Netz anpingen oder telneten. Die
> Netzwerkkarte ( NE2000 ) wird gefunden und es gibt sonst auch keinerlei
> Fehlermeldungen, auch in den logs steht nichts!
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanx in advance!
> cu Christoph
ifconfig -a listet en0 und ln0 auf.
en0 hat die richtigen Parameter. Nehme ich jedenfalls an, da es mit
gleichen Einstellungen unter LinuX funktioniert.
Wo werden eigentlich die Routing-Tabellen festgelegt? /etc/route.conf ja
wohl nicht.
cu Christoph
From: J.-U. Thieme <jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Mehr als ein Adaptec Controller in einem System?
Date: 3 Dec 1998 21:53:41 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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In <7418of$m01$1@queens.netuse.de> Andreas Grewe wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> ich habe versucht, zwei Adaptec Controller (1 x 2940 AU, 1 x 2940 UW)
> gelichzeitig unter OPENSTEP 4.2 zu betreiben.
> OS erkennt aber immer nur einen der beiden, und zwar denjenigen, der am
> weitesten rechts in den PCI-Slots steckt. Und das, obwohl Configure.app mir
r
> zwei Controller anzeigt (PCI Device 8 bzw. 9).
> Das ist ziemlich unbefriedigend :-(
> Weiß jemand Abhilfe?
>
> Gruß
> Andreas Grewe
>
Welchen Treiber benutzt Du (4.02 ?), hast Du 2 Instancen im Configure (mal im
m Expertmode nachsehen ob er auch die Instance richtig gesetzt hat). Mmmmh
nsonsten nochmal durchrufen dann koennen wir ja nochmal debatieren.
CIAO
JUT
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Ws ist denn mit www.nexttoyou.de los?
Date: 3 Dec 1998 17:07:41 GMT
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Andreas Hoeschler (ahoesch@on-luebeck.de) wrote:
: Hallo,
:
: ich bekomme schon seit einigen Tagen keinen Connect zur NeXTTOYou-Homepage.
: Weiß einer, was da los ist?
:
: Andreas
Jemand von der Redaktion postete hier, dass sie 'basteln' - ich glaube
wegen Umzugs des Servers (oder HW-Schaden). Sie wollen bald wieder
on-line sein. Derzeit (noch) kein Grund zur Sorge.
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From: J.-U. Thieme <jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: 3 Dec 1998 21:59:58 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <7471ku$nk8$2@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <70vso9$24d$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <364C1160.C69@darwin.in-berlin.de>
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In <73gk7o$1q1$1@amylnd.s.bawue.de> Matthias Zepf wrote:
> Hä? Also ich habe die Release Notes nicht gelesen, aber bereits
> einen umfangreichen Prototyp mit WO 4.0 (Beta) gebaut und finde es
> ziemlich lässig, mit dem Interface Builder meine Java-Applets zu
> entwerfen (die dann in gewisser Weise in Swing konvertiert werden).
> Außerdem finde ich es reichlich nett, große Teile des Foundation
> Framework und des EOF in Java auf Client-Seite verwenden zu können.
> Ich halte die Neuerungen in WO 4.0 für sehr umfangreich.
>
> Matthias
>
>
Das Haerteste ist ja wohl dass man sich ab Version 4 nur noch
WindowsNT als Entwicklungsplattform antun kann, das wird mein
Ausstieg aus WebObjects !
CIAO
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From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Subject: Re: Mehr als ein Adaptec Controller in einem System?
Message-ID: <F3Ew5F.9p@vergil.ping.de>
Sender: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Organization: Black Box - NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
References: <7418of$m01$1@queens.netuse.de>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:05:39 GMT
In article <7418of$m01$1@queens.netuse.de> agrewe@efi-nms.de (Andreas
Grewe) writes:
> Hallo,
>
> ich habe versucht, zwei Adaptec Controller (1 x 2940 AU, 1 x 2940 UW)
> gelichzeitig unter OPENSTEP 4.2 zu betreiben.
> OS erkennt aber immer nur einen der beiden, und zwar denjenigen, der am
> weitesten rechts in den PCI-Slots steckt. Und das, obwohl Configure.app
mir
> zwei Controller anzeigt (PCI Device 8 bzw. 9).
> Das ist ziemlich unbefriedigend :-(
> Wei jemand Abhilfe?
>
> Gru
> Andreas Grewe
Du musst das so machen wie im
Adaptec-Handbuch fuer 2 Kartenbetrieb beschrieben.
Das Bios des 2. Controllers muss ausgeschaltetwerden.
Hier laeuft das 1a!
Bis denn
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From: "Christoph Wick" <christoph.wick@gmd.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Rhapsody DR2 auf G3/300
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 00:59:47 +0100
Organization: Zentrum des Wahnsinns
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Hallo,
ich habe eben versucht, Rhapsody DR2 auf einem brandneuen Desktop G3/300 zu
installieren - leider hat der Rechner nach dem Startsound ueberhaupt nichts
mehr von sich gegeben. Der Rechner laesst sich nur nach Loeschen des
Parameter-Rams wieder ins MacOS booten. Dann ist die Partition, die ich fuer
Rhapsody spendiert hatte verschwunden, taucht aber bei einem erneuten
Installationsversuch wieder als "Rhapsody partition" in der Auswahlbox auf.
Ich habe nach einigem Rumsuchen im Netz zwei Dinge im Verdacht:
1.) Ich benutze einen alten Apple 21" Festfrenquenz-Monitor. Aufloesung
1152x870_75Hz. Kann es sein, dass Rhapsody damit nicht zurecht kommt?
2.) In meinem G3 ist schon ein ATI Rage Pro (6MByte SDRam) eingebaut. Kann
es sein, dass Rhapsody damit nicht zurecht kommt?
Ansonsten habe ich alles probiert, was mir so einfaeult:
- ganze Platte fuer Rhapsody genommen
- alle Peripherie abgeklemmt
- etc
Irgendwelche Ideen?
C.U.CW
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Routing...?!
Date: 4 Dec 1998 00:22:45 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Christoph <Ssonnic@iname.com> wrote:
: In article <Ssonnic-2611982032480001@192.168.1.2>, Ssonnic@iname.com
: (Christoph) wrote:
: > Hi,
: > könnte mir jemand bitte erklären wie das mit dem routing bei Rhapsody DR2
: > funktioniert? Ich habe zwar alle Einstellungen mit dem NetManager gemacht,
: > die richtigen Treiber für meine Netzwerkkarte installiert, aber leider
: > kann ich keinen anderen Rechner im Netz anpingen oder telneten. Die
: > Netzwerkkarte ( NE2000 ) wird gefunden und es gibt sonst auch keinerlei
: > Fehlermeldungen, auch in den logs steht nichts!
: >
: > Any ideas?
: >
: > Thanx in advance!
: > cu Christoph
: ifconfig -a listet en0 und ln0 auf.
: en0 hat die richtigen Parameter. Nehme ich jedenfalls an, da es mit
: gleichen Einstellungen unter LinuX funktioniert.
: Wo werden eigentlich die Routing-Tabellen festgelegt? /etc/route.conf ja
: wohl nicht.
Netzkarte wird gefunden und kein Transfer moeglich: IRQ miskonfiguriert,
wuerde ich tippen. Schau mal im BIOS nach, ob Du den IRQ dem PnP (Plug
and Puke) entreissen musst...
Die default-route kannt Du in /etc/hostconfig eintragen,
alles weitere von hand in /etc/rc.local (route add ....)
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Ws ist denn mit www.nexttoyou.de los?
Date: 4 Dec 1998 00:25:54 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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H.-R. Oberhage <phy070@spo109> wrote:
: Andreas Hoeschler (ahoesch@on-luebeck.de) wrote:
: : Hallo,
: :
: : ich bekomme schon seit einigen Tagen keinen Connect zur NeXTTOYou-Homepage.
: : Weiß einer, was da los ist?
: :
: : Andreas
: Jemand von der Redaktion postete hier, dass sie 'basteln' - ich glaube
: wegen Umzugs des Servers (oder HW-Schaden). Sie wollen bald wieder
Umzug.
Provider musste spontan nach Kaenguruhland auswandern.
: on-line sein. Derzeit (noch) kein Grund zur Sorge.
Sollte jetzt seit einigen Tagen wieder gehen. Gerade habe
ich ein telnet auf port 80 machen koennen, d.h. eben ging es.
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From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Ws ist denn mit www.nexttoyou.de los?
Date: 3 Dec 1998 22:33:38 GMT
Organization: STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting, Germany
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In <745mmj$ii@merkur.smartsoft.de> Andreas Hoeschler wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> ich bekomme schon seit einigen Tagen keinen Connect zur NeXTTOYou-Homepage.
> Weiß einer, was da los ist?
>
> Andreas
Hups?! Eigentlich ist mir der Domain gar nichts los. Alles in Ordnung
sozusagen. Können das anderes bestätigen?
Werde trotzdem mal beim Provider nachfragen ....
Gruss und Dank, Gerald
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From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Rhapsody DR2 auf G3/300
Date: 4 Dec 1998 09:03:54 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
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"Christoph Wick" <christoph.wick@gmd.de> wrote:
> ich habe eben versucht, Rhapsody DR2 auf einem brandneuen Desktop
> G3/300 zu installieren - leider hat der Rechner nach dem Startsound
> ueberhaupt nichts mehr von sich gegeben.
Das ist ein bekanntes Problem, aber die Antwort wird dich wahrscheinlich
nicht besonders erfreuen: Du hast ein Revision 3 Motherboard und die werden
von DR2 einfach nicht unterstützt. Einige Leute bei Apple haben versucht, das
mit einem OpenFirmware Patch in den Griff zu bekommen, sind aber gescheitert.
Du mußt daher auf einen neuen Kernel warten, der natürlich erst als
Bestandteil von MacOS X Server erhältlich sein wird.
erik
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From: F.Knobloch@inis.de (Frank Knobloch)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: To all developers and companies that may be interested
Date: 4 Dec 98 11:19:16 GMT
Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie
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To all developers and companies that may be interested,
the actual situation of the Openstep market (respectively Openstep,
Yellow-Box, EOF and WOF) requires developers with expertise in this field
that cannot be found easily. Like our company, there are other firms which
are interested in training programmers which are new to this technologies.
InIS is currently developing a product, called Requester, that is based on
the famous technology of WebObjects 4.0.
Requester is a system for building, using and administrating internet-based
knowledge databases, which is in final beta and will be released early next
year. A knowledge-based supportsystem has much more advantages than
news or mailinglists, cause mostly it would be better to get informations in
a more flexible way.
We are intending to create a web site based on this technology at no cost. It
will be possible to obtain a quick answer to questions related to Openstep
programming, by flexible searching or by getting answers from experts. As
with OmniGroup's mailing lists, which can either be browsed online or
downloaded as m-box files, the contents of this database will be available to
anyone interested online. If she/he deems it more convenient she/he will be
able to download all of parts of the database in a public format. So the
collected knowledge is for everyone who is interested in it.
The purpose of this mail is to
1. mention to you the availability of this new service, and
2. to invite any interested developer which considers herself/itself an
expert in any of the aforementioned fileds to join the system as such.
In the first major-release the experts of the Requester must be skilled
developers, but in future releases we will build up an expert-system, based
on the collected knowledge.
If you are in any way interested (as an expert or an user or both) in this
offering please let us know.
Regards
Frank Knobloch
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From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.com>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: 4 Dec 1998 09:11:27 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
Message-ID: <7488vv$6fb$2@leonie.object-factory.com>
References: <70vso9$24d$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <364C1160.C69@darwin.in-berlin.de> <364CD3A9.763B7C9F@mdlink.de> <73gk7o$1q1$1@amylnd.s.bawue.de> <7471ku$nk8$2@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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J.-U. Thieme <jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de> wrote:
> Das Haerteste ist ja wohl dass man sich ab Version 4 nur noch
> WindowsNT als Entwicklungsplattform antun kann, das wird mein
> Ausstieg aus WebObjects !
Was so natürlich nur bis voraussichtlich Januar gilt. Dann wird nämlich MacOS
X Server rauskommen und du kannst in gewohnter und liebgewonnener Umgebung
weiterarbeiten. Einzig, daß du vielleicht(!) andere Hardware brauchst. Aber
wenn du mich fragst, trauere ich dem Intel-Schrott nicht nach...
erik
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From: laire@basis.owl.de (Ralph Schmidt)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Alternative [Was: Summary: WebObjects Gehaelter]
Date: 4 Dec 1998 12:36:12 GMT
Organization: Privates Internet Ost-Westfalen-Lippe
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References: <70vso9$24d$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <364C1160.C69@darwin.in-berlin.de> <364CD3A9.763B7C9F@mdlink.de> <73gk7o$1q1$1@amylnd.s.bawue.de> <7471ku$nk8$2@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <7488vv$6fb$2@leonie.object-factory.com>
In-Reply-To: <7488vv$6fb$2@leonie.object-factory.com>
On 12/04/98, Erik Doernenburg wrote:
>J.-U. Thieme <jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de> wrote:
>> Das Haerteste ist ja wohl dass man sich ab Version 4 nur noch
>> WindowsNT als Entwicklungsplattform antun kann, das wird mein
>> Ausstieg aus WebObjects !
>
>Was so natürlich nur bis voraussichtlich Januar gilt. Dann wird
nämlich MacOS
>X Server rauskommen und du kannst in gewohnter und liebgewonnener
Umgebung
>weiterarbeiten. Einzig, daß du vielleicht(!) andere Hardware
brauchst. Aber
>wenn du mich fragst, trauere ich dem Intel-Schrott nicht nach...
>
Als gaebe es keine schrottige Apple Hardware:-))
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From: hdwoernd@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Wörndl-Aichriedler)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Q: Schriften an Drucker mitliefern?
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:41:37 +0100
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <1eh947.n04.ln@aladdin>
Hallo!
Ich habe an einen Linux Rechner Ghostscript installiert,
und kann Postscript ausdrucken. Bis auf fehlende Schriften.
Wie kann ich den Treiber zwingen, immer alle Schriften
mitzuschicken?
Der Auszug aus dem NetInfo:
# nidump printcap /
DeskJet: \
:lp=:rm=jini:rp=lp:ty=Unknown:note=Remote (ghostscript): \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/DeskJet:
MfG,
Harald W.
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Schriften an Drucker mitliefern?
Date: 5 Dec 1998 00:50:18 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Harald Wörndl-Aichriedler <hdwoernd@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
: Hallo!
: Ich habe an einen Linux Rechner Ghostscript installiert,
: und kann Postscript ausdrucken. Bis auf fehlende Schriften.
: Wie kann ich den Treiber zwingen, immer alle Schriften
: mitzuschicken?
: Der Auszug aus dem NetInfo:
: # nidump printcap /
: DeskJet: \
: :lp=:rm=jini:rp=lp:ty=Unknown:note=Remote (ghostscript): \
: :sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/DeskJet:
_nxfinalform
in die printcap eintragen, dann loeppts.
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Schriften an Drucker mitliefern?
Date: 5 Dec 1998 17:36:59 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <74bqvr$h9l$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
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Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
: Harald Wörndl-Aichriedler <hdwoernd@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
: : Hallo!
: : Ich habe an einen Linux Rechner Ghostscript installiert,
: : und kann Postscript ausdrucken. Bis auf fehlende Schriften.
: : Wie kann ich den Treiber zwingen, immer alle Schriften
: : mitzuschicken?
: : Der Auszug aus dem NetInfo:
: : # nidump printcap /
: : DeskJet: \
: : :lp=:rm=jini:rp=lp:ty=Unknown:note=Remote (ghostscript): \
: : :sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/DeskJet:
: _nxfinalform
: in die printcap eintragen, dann loeppts.
Ich wurde gefragt, wie man das macht. z.B. so:
nidump printcap / >/tmp/printcap
vi /tmp/printcap
z.B. untenstehendes eintragen (entsprechend modifiziert
fuer den passenden Drucker und die rechner usw.)
lj_olymp: \
:_nxfinalform:lp=:rm=alphabet:rg=kt8:lo=lock: \
:if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver:sb: \
:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/lj_olymp: \
:ty=HP LaserJet 4 PostScript 600DPI s:
niload printcap / </tmp/printcap
: --
: Axel Habermann
: kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 62843137
: Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
: haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
--
Axel Habermann
kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 62843137
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Schriften an Drucker mitliefern?
Date: 5 Dec 1998 21:56:32 GMT
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Axel Habermann wrote:
> lj_olymp: \
> :_nxfinalform:lp=:rm=alphabet:rg=kt8:lo=lock: \
> :if=/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver:sb: \
> :sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/lj_olymp: \
> :ty=HP LaserJet 4 PostScript 600DPI s:
>
Ich bekomme dann in der Konsole nur
Dec 5 22:39:12 npd[512]: could not exec
ers.service/psprepare: No such file or directory
Dec 5 22:39:12 eskimo npd[180]: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/npd-lpr of test.ps
-- /User/juergen/Dokumente/Briefe exited status = 1
Wo bekomme ich das psprepare her? Ich habe schon alles danach abgesucht.
--
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From: Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com>
Subject: OS nach Linux installieren
Date: 06 Dec 1998 17:34:10 GMT
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Ist es problemlos moeglich, ein Betriebssystem _nach_ Linux zu installieren?
Die Anleitungen, die ich kenne, nehmen meistens an, dass man das andere System
zuerst installiert.
In meinem Fall habe ich Linux in einer Partition und noch einen
unpartitionierten Bereich, in den ich gerne FreeBSD oder NeXTStep oder WinNT
installieren moechte. Vielleicht auch alles drei, Platz waere da.
Was muss ich beachten, damit ich hinterher auch Linux noch booten kann? Gerade
bei NeXTStep habe ich so meine Zweifel, weil das irgendetwas auf die Platte
schreibt, was sich selbst nach der Deinstallation dieses Systemes nicht
entfernen laesst. Habe schon einige ehemalige Dual Boot Systeme gesehen, wo
nur noch WinNT drauf ist, man aber trotzdem am Anfang die Entscheidung
zwischen NeXTStep und "Dos" treffen muss.
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Schriften an Drucker mitliefern?
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 11:48:20 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
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In <74ca6g$fk@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Juergen Grieb wrote:
>
> Ich bekomme dann in der Konsole nur
>
> Dec 5 22:39:12 npd[512]: could not exec
> ers.service/psprepare: No such file or directory
> Dec 5 22:39:12 eskimo npd[180]: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/npd-lpr of test.ps
> -- /User/juergen/Dokumente/Briefe exited status = 1
>
> Wo bekomme ich das psprepare her? Ich habe schon alles danach abgesucht.
/NextLibrary/Services/PrintFilters.service/psprepare
From: Stefan Geisler <insg@rz.tu-clausthal.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: Textverarbeitung / DTP
Date: 6 Dec 1998 13:06:32 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der TU Clausthal
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Hallo!
Ich suche ein Textverarbeitungsprogramm und/oder ein
DTP-Programm fuer Nextstep 3.3 (neu oder gebraucht).
Es kann auch eine F+L-Version sein, da ich Studi bin.
Stefan Geisler
From: Nik Wiesel <uzs198@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: 4 Gigabyte Limit
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 15:46:39 +0000
Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany)
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.981206153509.305A-100000@ibm>
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Das hoert sich ja alles schoen an, meine Frage wurde indes nicht
beantwortet. Die Aussagen von Axel scheinen mir am ehesten der
Wirklichkeit zu entsprechen, denn sie stimmen mit meinen Erfahrungen
ueberein. Das ist uebrigens unabhaengig davon, ob es um SCSI oder IDE
geht. Hier ein kleines Beispiel:
Es ist etwa nicht moeglich auf einer 6GB Festplatte, die in 4 Partitionen
zu 2 GB und einer 4 mit 8 MB Partitioniert ist, NS/OS in der dritten
Partition zu installieren und in den ersten beiden andere System wie etwa
W95 und NT. Die NS/OS Installation funktioniert *NUR*, wenn sie in einer
Partition erfolgt, die unterhalb von 4GB beginnt. Daraus kann geschlossen
werden, dass NS/OS einer 4GB Grenze unterliegt. Dies bestaetigt sich,
wennn man die 4 Partition am ende der Platte mit einem FAT Dateisystem
belegt. dieses wird weder von NS/OS erkannt, noch kann es von Hand
gemounted werden. Vmount etwa meldet ausdruecklich, dass das 4GB Limit
ueberschritten sei!
Dass NS/OS keine Partitionen sicher verwalten kann, die groesser als 2 GB
sind, hat sich aus Erfahrungswerten ergeben. Dass soll sogar irgendwo in
den Nextanswers stehen.
Da diese Probleme schon seit jahren bestehen, dachte ich, dass es
vielleicht mittlerweile einen Patch dafuer geben koennte. Aber wie ich
sehe, ist das wohl nicht der Fall. Von Apple/NeXT wird das wohl in einem
kostenpflichtigen Update auf Rhapsodie enden....
Da soll noch mal einer ueber Microsoft schimpfen: da gaebe es sowas
jedenfalls in absehbarer Zeit als kostenloses Service Pack ...
---------------------------------------
Nik Wiesel: uzs198@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de
===============================================================
The above statement is my own opinion and does not represent
the point of view of any organization I am related to.
===============================================================
On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Peter Nitezki wrote:
> > In article <73497u$294$3@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Axel Habermann
> > <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> writes: Uli Zappe
> > <uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote: : Nik Wiesel
> > <uzs198@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> wrote: : > Hallo, kann man unter
> > OS4.2 irgendwie die 4 G-byte Grenze fuer : > Festplatten oder
> > die 2 G-Byte grenze fuer Partitionen umgehen?
> >
> > : Eine 4GB-Grenze fuer Festplatten gab es nie, die 2GB-Grenze
> > fuer : Partitionen laesst sich nicht umgehen.
> >
> > Gewagte Aussage, Uli.
> >
> > Ab 4 GB macht OPENSTEP ganz merkwuerdige Sachen beim Installieren.
> > Siehe mein Posting unter dem Subject: Re: Openstep auf Partition
> > am Plattenende bei 5GB-Platte und W95 von eben.
> >
> > OPENSTEP hat auch ganz munter eine 1.25 GB Partition mit einem
> > 2.5 GB grossen Dateisystem ausgestattet und konnte prima drauf
> > rumschreiben. Ich habe die Aktion dann vorsichtshalber abgebrochen
> > und ein Filesystem mit der richtigen Groesse installiert.
> >
> > Axel
> >
> Wie immer steckt ein Quaentchen Wahrheit in beiden Aussagen. Das liegt
> einfach daran, dass die Materie etwas verzwickt ist.
>
> Das BSD, das unter unserem gliebten NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP liegt (wie auch
> BIOS) wurden zu einer Zeit geschrieben als man Plattensektoren noch
> physisch adressiert hat. Die Filesysteme im BSD (im DOS) legen dann aber
> eine Abstraktionschicht drueber, die eine sequenzielle Adressierung
> vortaeuschen. Wer sich die man-pages zu den Filesystem-Utilities genau
> durchliest sieht dies noch deutlich durchscheinen. Z.B. die cylinder
> groups, interleave factors etc.
>
> Partitionen waren dabei ein Mittel Struktur in die sequenzielle
> Adressierung zu bringen. Eine Platte wurde in diesem Schema in der disktab
> physisch beschrieben und das Resultat (die vom Treiber optimal abgebildete
> Sequenz von Bloecken) ueber die Partitionierung in guenstig verwaltbare
> Teile zerteilt. Eine Partition ist dabei im Wesentlichen ein Tupel aus
> Startblock und Blockanzahl (den Rest unterschlagen wir mal). Eine Platte
> hat immer acht Partitionen (Buchstaben a bis h), die beliebig zu liegen
> kommen koennen, Es ist Aufgabe des Sysadmin dafuer zu sorgen, dass die
> Konfiguration Sinn macht, das Filesystem schert sich einen Dreck um die
> Konsistenz.
>
> Mit der Einfuehrung von SCSI und EIDE wurde das Geschaeft fuer die
> Filesysteme mehr und mehr undurchsichtig da entweder aus der Not oder aus
> der Tugend (EIDE bzw. SCSI ;-) eine Abbildung zwischen physische und
> anscheinende Blockadressierung gelegt wurde. Seither sind Fehler bei der
> Treiber-Parametrierung zwar nicht mehr grundsaetzlich toedlich,
> beeinflussen nun aber die Performanz des Filesystems, sofern die Werte
> nicht zutreffen. Die Ermittlung der richtigen Parameter ist deshalb immer
> mehr zur Kunst geworden.
>
> Nun kommen zwei weitere "unvorhergesehene" Ereignisse ins Spiel: Unix wird
> dem Endnutzer (auch Dumm-User genannt) angetragen und die Plattenspeicher
> werden immer groesser. Auf beide war BSD nicht recht vorbereitet.
>
> Um mit dem ersten Ereignis klar zu kommen weden immer schlauere
> Konfigurationswerkzeuge und Installationsprozeduren erfunden. Da man's
> aber leider nicht schafft eine geschlossene Loesung zu finden mussten
> Heuristiken herhalten. Die sind zwar ganz praktisch und nuetzlich wenn es
> darum geht den "einfachen Fall" abzuhandeln, aber wenn die Heuristik auf
> die Fresse faellt ist Karle Dummuser halt ganz besonders geplaettet (keine
> Implikationen fuer meine Vor-Poster beabsichtigt!)...
> BTW, ich hab's damals mit der Einfuehrung von "newfs" schon kommen sehen,
> dass eines Tages keiner mehr weiss, wie man ein Filesystem richtig
> parametriert (und ich hab's mittlerweile auch schon verlernt ;-)
> Man haette halt bei "mkfs" bleiben sollen. Ach was das noch Zeiten als man
> als Unixer noch wusste wie mein einen Kernel linkt... (ROTFL)
>
> Tja, und wegen der immer groesser werden Platten: Wenn NeXT damals nicht
> aller Gewalt versucht haete alle halbe Jahre einen neuen Markt zu
> erorbern, sondern eine ordentliche Wartung fuer den Kernel und die
> Filesystem- Utilities betrieben haette, muessten wir uns derzeit nicht
> alle mit Zaehlerueberlaeufen und Falschanzeigen rumquaelen.
>
> Nun aber nach all dem Rumdozieren und Gejammer: Praktisch bleibt einem nur
> eine sichere Methode, um NS/OS zu installieren. Man mu mit einer knapp
> 1GB grossen Platte anfangen und wenn das System dann zum Laufen gekommen
> ist eine groessere Platte anschliessen, mehr oder weniger von Hand sauber
> Partitionieren (incl. Boot-Partition) und die Filesysteme einrichten. Dann
> kann man das NS/OS einspielen und den Rechner endgueltig zusammenbauen.
> Alle anderen Wege sind aehnlich wackelige Heuristiken wie die, die bereits
> beim ersten Mal in die Gruetze giengen.
>
> --
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>
>
From: kuhn@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de.nospam
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Subject: Re: OS nach Linux installieren
Date: 6 Dec 1998 22:06:23 GMT
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In de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com> wrote:
: Was muss ich beachten, damit ich hinterher auch Linux noch booten kann? Gerade
mach dir eine Linux-Bootdiskette:
cp <path_to_kernel>/vmlinux /dev/fd0
Tip: teste ob sie auch wirklich funktioniert :-)
Oft wird bei der installation weiterer OSes der MBR der
Platte überschrieben -> LILO kaputt!
Dann: Linux mit der Boodisk starten und LILO entsprechend konfigurieren ...
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From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OS nach Linux installieren
Date: 7 Dec 1998 00:01:23 GMT
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In de.comp.sys.next kuhn@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de.nospam wrote:
: In de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com> wrote:
: : Was muss ich beachten, damit ich hinterher auch Linux noch booten kann? Gerade
: mach dir eine Linux-Bootdiskette:
: cp <path_to_kernel>/vmlinux /dev/fd0
: Tip: teste ob sie auch wirklich funktioniert :-)
: Oft wird bei der installation weiterer OSes der MBR der
: Platte überschrieben -> LILO kaputt!
Die Bootdiskette ist sicher eine feine Sache, falls was schiefgeht.
Es ist aber immer moeglich durch Setzen der aktiven Partition das
entsprechende Betriebssystem auf dieser Partition zu booten. Bei
Linux ist es evtl. noetig, LILO nicht im MBR (Master Boot Record)
sondern im Partitionsbootsektor zu installieren.
NEXTSTEP installiert den bekannten Bootselektor im MBR,
den wird man los, in dem man z.B. unter DOS/WIN 'fdisk /mbr'
eingibt.
Oder man installiert LILO im MBR, dann ist das alte Ding auch
weg.
Axel
From: dmcger@aol.com (Dmcger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: V: NeXTstep & Software
Date: 7 Dec 1998 03:42:29 GMT
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Handbücher, falls jemand Interesse hat bitte Email an "micha@delorean.de".
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Q: Schriften an Drucker mitliefern?
Date: 6 Dec 1998 20:49:39 GMT
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Thomas F. Unke wrote:
> /NextLibrary/Services/PrintFilters.service/psprepare
Ok, da hatte ich auch gesucht, es war aber nicht vorhanden. Zum Glück war
r es auf meiner Orginal OS CD. Jetzt läuft es also.
Warum sehen die Ausdrucke über einen Remote-Drucker (gleicher Drucker,
ur einmal hängt er direkt am OS4.2 und einmal an Linux) unterschiedlich
aus? Genauer gesagt stimmen die Abstände zwischen den Buchstaben nicht.
Ich dachte, mit der hier vorgestellten Lösung werden alle
nten Daten mit dem Dokument mitgeschickt. Da müsste der Ausdruck doch
nn identisch sein, oder?
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From: Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de>
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Subject: Re: Q: Schriften an Drucker mitliefern?
Date: 07 Dec 1998 10:38:04 +0100
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Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> writes:
> Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> : Harald Wörndl-Aichriedler <hdwoernd@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
[NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-spezifisches PS Spooling Problem...]
> : : und kann Postscript ausdrucken. Bis auf fehlende Schriften.
> : : Wie kann ich den Treiber zwingen, immer alle Schriften
> : : mitzuschicken?
> : _nxfinalform
>
> : in die printcap eintragen, dann loeppts.
>
> Ich wurde gefragt, wie man das macht. z.B. so:
>
> nidump printcap / >/tmp/printcap
>
> vi /tmp/printcap
[...]
> niload printcap / </tmp/printcap
Warnung am Rande: Zumindest unter NeXTSTEP 3.3 klappt das offenbar so
nicht, weil niload eine Netinfo-Directory statt einer Property anlegt.
Ich habe deshalb NetinfoManager genommen, um die _nxfinalform Property
anzulegen.
Timm
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From: space@spaceman.e.ruhr.de (Marcus Pfohl)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: OS nach Linux installieren
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 22:52:31 +0000
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Thomas Adams <tadams@pobox.com> wrote
>Ist es problemlos moeglich, ein Betriebssystem _nach_ Linux zu installieren?
>Die Anleitungen, die ich kenne, nehmen meistens an, dass man das andere System
>zuerst installiert.
>
Ja, aber dont forget the bootdisk.
>In meinem Fall habe ich Linux in einer Partition und noch einen
>unpartitionierten Bereich, in den ich gerne FreeBSD oder NeXTStep oder WinNT
>installieren moechte. Vielleicht auch alles drei, Platz waere da.
>
Winnt geht, danach Linux neu starten und lilo starten (/etc/lilo.conf
anpassen). Die Andren Os kenne ich nicht, glaube aber kaum das es nicht
moeglich ist.
>Was muss ich beachten, damit ich hinterher auch Linux noch booten kann?
Bootdiskette!
>Gerade
>bei NeXTStep habe ich so meine Zweifel, weil das irgendetwas auf die Platte
>schreibt, was sich selbst nach der Deinstallation dieses Systemes nicht
>entfernen laesst.
Erstelle dir mit dd eine sicherheitskopie des MBR und evt. auch von den
Bootseektoren der einzelnen Partitionen, die kannst du hinterher dann wieder
einspielen. Bitte lese die Docku dazu ausfuerlich, mit dd kann man viel
unsinn machen.
>Habe schon einige ehemalige Dual Boot Systeme gesehen, wo
>nur noch WinNT drauf ist, man aber trotzdem am Anfang die Entscheidung
>zwischen NeXTStep und "Dos" treffen muss.
Dann schreibt sich NeXT defaultmaessig in den MBR wenn du dein Backup zurueck-
spielst ist der 'spuk' verschwunden.
Marcus
From: oberlaender@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Matthias Oberlaender)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: getopt_long unter NEXTSTEP 3.3 ?
Date: 8 Dec 1998 08:37:02 GMT
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Ich wuerde meine C-Tools gerne mit GNU's getopt_long ausstatten.
Wer hat das unter NS 3.3 schon praktiziert?
Wo sollte ich mir die Quellen holen und wie installieren?
Danke!
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From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: 4 Gigabyte Limit
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In article <Pine.NXT.3.95.981206153509.305A-100000@ibm> Nik Wiesel
<uzs198@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> writes:
> Das hoert sich ja alles schoen an, meine Frage wurde indes nicht
> beantwortet. Die Aussagen von Axel scheinen mir am ehesten der
> Wirklichkeit zu entsprechen, denn sie stimmen mit meinen Erfahrungen
> ueberein. Das ist uebrigens unabhaengig davon, ob es um SCSI oder IDE
> geht. Hier ein kleines Beispiel:
> Es ist etwa nicht moeglich auf einer 6GB Festplatte, die in 4
Partitionen
> zu 2 GB und einer 4 mit 8 MB Partitioniert ist, NS/OS in der dritten
Das w rde ich auch gerne machen, meine Platte hat auch zuwenig Platz...
> Partition zu installieren und in den ersten beiden andere System wie
etwa
> W95 und NT. Die NS/OS Installation funktioniert *NUR*, wenn sie in einer
> Partition erfolgt, die unterhalb von 4GB beginnt. Daraus kann
>geschlossen
ich w rde eher sagen unter 2GB!
> werden, dass NS/OS einer 4GB Grenze unterliegt. Dies bestaetigt sich,
> wennn man die 4 Partition am ende der Platte mit einem FAT Dateisystem
> belegt. dieses wird weder von NS/OS erkannt, noch kann es von Hand
> gemounted werden. Vmount etwa meldet ausdruecklich, dass das 4GB Limit
> ueberschritten sei!
> Dass NS/OS keine Partitionen sicher verwalten kann, die groesser als 2
GB
> sind, hat sich aus Erfahrungswerten ergeben. Dass soll sogar irgendwo in
> den Nextanswers stehen.
>
> Da diese Probleme schon seit jahren bestehen, dachte ich, dass es
> vielleicht mittlerweile einen Patch dafuer geben koennte. Aber wie ich
> sehe, ist das wohl nicht der Fall. Von Apple/NeXT wird das wohl in einem
> kostenpflichtigen Update auf Rhapsodie enden....
>
> Da soll noch mal einer ueber Microsoft schimpfen: da gaebe es sowas
> jedenfalls in absehbarer Zeit als kostenloses Service Pack ...
>
Optimist?
eine firma bei der man noch nicht mal erwarten kann das die
Betriebssysteme mit dem jweils anderen Format zurechtkommen?
Bei der man um einen Betriebssystempatch zu installieren auch andere
Software installieren muss?
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From: agrewe@efi-nms.de (Andreas Grewe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Jaz 2 GB
Date: 8 Dec 1998 15:12:49 GMT
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Hallo OPENSTEP-Gemeinde,
gibt's irgendwo eine lauffähige disktab für die 2 GB Jaz-Medien? Mit dem
Eintrag aus NeXTAnswers kann man die neuen Medien nicht mal auf 1 GB
formatieren.
Gruß
Andreas Grewe
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Subject: Dots
Date: 9 Dec 1998 06:56:33 GMT
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Hallo,
weiss jemand, wo ich eine zusätzliche Netzwerklizenz für Dots bekommen
ann und was die momentan kosten?
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From: erdnuss@cs.tu-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann)
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Subject: Neu auf dem Berliner NeXT-Archiv (11-Dec-98)
Date: 11 Dec 1998 11:37:41 GMT
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Neu auf dem NeXT-FTP-Archiv der BeNG (ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT):
1374 Nov 11 09:28 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/admin/apps/UPlipo-0.7.README
47236 Nov 8 07:26 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/admin/apps/UPlipo-0.7.bs.PI.tar.gz
1003726 Oct 27 07:04 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/apps/XS3mod.0.99b.NI.b.tar.gz
552 Oct 27 07:05 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/apps/XS3mod.0.99b.README
526382 Nov 6 01:58 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/unix/mpap-1.0-PI-b.tar.gz
2832 Nov 6 01:58 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/audio/unix/mpap-1.0.README
856300 Nov 19 04:07 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/languages/as.3.3.NIHS.s.tar.gz
1127 Nov 19 04:07 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/languages/as.3.3.README
2288155 Oct 16 09:53 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/languages/kaffe.1.0b2.2.I.b.tar.gz
2104 Oct 16 09:53 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/developer/languages/kaffe.1.0b2.2.README
167944 Nov 13 08:02 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/GIFfun-1.1.2-PI-b.tar.gz
1199 Nov 13 08:18 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/GIFfun-1.1.2.README
190074 Dec 10 22:51 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/OmniImage-1998-12-10.s.tar.gz
147764 Dec 3 16:09 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/ShowMe-1.0.1-PI.b.tar.gz
783 Dec 10 09:31 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/ShowMe-1.0.1.README
25693 Dec 9 16:06 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/apps/InstallTablet.4.0.N.b.tar.gz
904 Dec 9 16:07 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/apps/InstallTablet.4.0.readme
64712 Nov 29 17:19 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/driver/intel/MatroxMGA2064WDisplayDriver-3.41.tar.gz
733696 Dec 9 11:28 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/apps/Lottery.98Dec8.N.b.tar.Z
1454 Dec 9 11:21 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/apps/Lottery.98Dec8.README
2147914 Nov 11 09:16 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/samba.1.9.18p10.3.NIS.b.tar.gz
2426 Nov 11 09:16 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/samba.1.9.18p10.3.README
1424201 Nov 11 09:16 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/unix/samba.1.9.18p10.3.s.tar.gz
14408 Dec 10 22:09 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OIF_framework-1998-12-10.s.tar.gz
172608 Dec 10 22:09 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OWF_framework-1998-12-10.s.tar.gz
114854 Dec 10 22:08 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniAppKit_framework-1998-12-10.s.tar.gz
20459 Dec 10 22:08 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniBase_framework-1998-12-10.s.tar.gz
162701 Dec 10 22:08 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniFoundation_framework-1998-12-10.s.tar.gz
47794 Dec 10 22:08 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/OmniNetworking_framework-1998-12-10.s.tar.gz
5141 Dec 10 22:27 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/appkit_plugin-1998-12-10.s.tar.gz
15215 Dec 10 22:22 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/apps/commercial/gif_plugin-1998-12-10.s.tar.gz
37026 Nov 29 11:22 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/services/DigitalWEBster-1.0.1-PI-b.tar.gz
1675 Nov 29 11:21 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/services/DigitalWEBster-1.0.1.README
187768 Oct 28 22:30 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/BetterConsole-1.3.0-PI-b.tar.gz
6418 Oct 28 22:29 ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/workspace/BetterConsole-1.3.0.README
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From: Rolf Woehrmann <Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Neue Drucker an NeXT PizzaBoxen?
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:46:13 +0100
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Hallo,
gibt es Loesungen fuer noch neu hergestellte Drucker
an NeXT PizzaBoxen? Viele haben nur noch parallel
Ports. Fuer die mit seriellen Anschluss fuer Apple
brauchen wohl spezielle Kabel, oder sind die mit
Apple Drucker Kabel kompatibel? Vielmehr, gibt
es Software Treiber fuer Ethernet Drucker?
Any help is welcome!
--rolf woehrmann
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Neue Drucker an NeXT PizzaBoxen?
Date: 11 Dec 1998 22:13:11 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Dec 1998 22:13:11 GMT
Rolf Woehrmann <Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de> wrote:
> Apple Drucker Kabel kompatibel? Vielmehr, gibt
> es Software Treiber fuer Ethernet Drucker?
Brauchste nicht. Postscript-Ehternet-Drucker gehen Plug and Play (Du brauchst
nur die PPD-Datei, die bei den Druckern dabei ist).
Tschau
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From: "H. Hahn" <h.hahn@rendsburg.netsurf.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: V: OPENSTEP 4.2 Developer (Intel/m68k)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 10:24:04 +0100
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Hallo,
ich habe ein OPENSTEP 4.2 Developer f. Mach (F&L) für Intel und 68k,
noch in Originalkarton und unregistriert, zu verkaufen. Angebote bitte
per Mail.
Gruß,
Heiko
From: reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de (Reinhard Wolf)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: V: NeXTstation Turbo Color 64MB/1GB
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 10:36:19 GMT
Organization: University of Giessen, Germany
Message-ID: <36724611.1257883@news.uni-giessen.de>
Hallo NeXTies,
Weihnachten rueckt mal wieder naeher und der Gabentisch ist noch leer?
Hier waer doch was feines!
NeXTStation TurboColor - 68040-33MHz
64MB RAM (4x16MB)
1 GB HD
ADB Maus
ADB Tastatur
ADB Soundbox
Openstep 4.2 User
17" Monitor (beige, SGI Label, Trinitron) -
auf Wunsch auch schwarz bemalt ;-)
VB 1300 DM
Dito als NON ADB ebenso vorhanden
Farbdrucker NeXT
ohne Kartuschen
mit SCSI Kabel
VB 500 DM
Naehere Infos auf Anfrage
Reinhard
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Q: IBM DORS 1GB unvertraeglich mit NeXT-Station ?
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:30:59 GMT
In article <745q97$9aa10@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> phy070@spo109 (H.-R.
Oberhage) writes:
Ich erinnere mich an einige Postings in frueheren Tagen:
Die IBM-Dinger koennen offenbar einige Optionen nur ueber Software-
Schalter steuern. Man muss dazu mittels SCSI-Tools einige Bits im
Konfigurationsblock der Platte umkippen. Schaut doch mal im News-Archiv
auf Peanuts nach...
> Ein Test der Terminierung (bei schwarzer NeXT kann man
> evtl. riskieren, die Platte unterminiert zu lassen. Jedenfalls
> stellt die NeXT-HW keine "Termination-Power (TrmPwr)" zur
> Verfuegung!) ist immer gut!
>
> Und dann eben das 'sync'hronous mode transfer Problem:
>
> Folgendes aus DejaNews von (damals: 1996/11/19)
> brouwer@kafka.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer)
> zum Thema "Re: IBM DORS 2.1GB: does it work in black hardware?"
> in "comp.sys.next.hardware":
>
> Timothy Van Zandt wrote:
>
> > I don't know about the ugly ctostp, but:
> Explanation: SCSI2 supports synchronous and asynchronous data transfer,
> SCSI1 only asynchronous. Although the NeXT has a SCSI2 connector, it is
> still an SCSI1 device. Modern drives use synchronous transfer mode by
> default - and there had been the rumour, that some drives are unable
> to turn off this mode. This kind of drive is not SCSI1 backward
> compatible and so can't be used with a NeXT.
> At least this is what I heard....
>
> [tips deleted]
>
> >
> > So far, I'm quite happy with this drive.
> Good to hear...well, you have a Turbo machine....does anybody know,
> whether these machines have a different SCSI-Interface (compared to the
> old slabs)?
>
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From: Matthias Heidbrink <mh@cs.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,maus.computer.os2
Subject: Drucken über lpr/lpd: Banner abstellen???
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:26:39 +0100
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Hi,
ich habe eine NeXTstation Color mit NeXTstep 3.3 und drucke auf einen
PostScript-Drucker an einer OS/2-Kiste. Der lpd auf OS/2-Seite scheint
voll BSD-komptibel zu sein.
Das Ganze tut's wunderbar, aber leider bekomme ich immer bei jedem
Druckjob zwei Seiten Banner, offensichtlich je eine davon von der
NeXTstation und eine vom lpd auf dem OS/2-Rechner. Wie kann man die
Banner abstellen?
Ciao, Matthias
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3674e045.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 14 Dec 98 09:54:13 GMT
Rolf Woehrmann <Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de> wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>gibt es Loesungen fuer noch neu hergestellte Drucker
>an NeXT PizzaBoxen? Viele haben nur noch parallel
>Ports. Fuer die mit seriellen Anschluss fuer Apple
Es gibt Parallel-Seriell-Konverter, mit denen wir schon Nadeldrucker und
aehnliches an eine NeXT oder den seriellen Bus einer SUN angeschlossen haben
...
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From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz)
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Subject: DLT - Tape
Date: 14 Dec 1998 09:17:31 GMT
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Wir wollen ein DLT Laufwerk an unsere OpenStep 4.2 Maschine anschließen.
Hat hierzu jemand Erfahrung?
Wird es mit TAR funktionieren?
Alex
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,maus.computer.os2
Subject: Re: Drucken =?US-ASCII?Q?=FCber?= lpr/lpd: Banner abstellen???
Date: 14 Dec 1998 17:56:05 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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References: <367422FE.178959A9@cs.tu-berlin.de>
In de.comp.sys.next Matthias Heidbrink <mh@cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
: Hi,
: ich habe eine NeXTstation Color mit NeXTstep 3.3 und drucke auf einen
: PostScript-Drucker an einer OS/2-Kiste. Der lpd auf OS/2-Seite scheint
: voll BSD-komptibel zu sein.
: Das Ganze tut's wunderbar, aber leider bekomme ich immer bei jedem
: Druckjob zwei Seiten Banner, offensichtlich je eine davon von der
: NeXTstation und eine vom lpd auf dem OS/2-Rechner. Wie kann man die
: Banner abstellen?
Der lpr wird auf der Next-Seite immer mit -J xxx aufgerufen, was
dann auch einem korrekt BSD-kompatiblen lpd eine Bannerpage
erzeugt. Laesst sich m.W. nach nur mit einem patch abstellen.
Und zwar muss man den Symlink von npd-lpr auf /usr/ucb/lpr
in /usr/lib/MextPrinter durch ein Programm ersetzen, was
die Parameter des lpr-Aufrufs manipuliert.
Programm und Source befinden sich auf
ftp://buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de/pub/next/
und heissen npd-lpr bzw. npd-lpr.c
HTH
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From: "J. Penning" <j_penning@public.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Intel Hardware Tips
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:08:19 +0100
Organization: University of Hamburg/Germany
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Gerade wurde ich gebeten, einen Vorschlag für eine
Intel-Hardware zu machen, auf der NS3.3 oder
OS 4.2 laufen soll. Meine aktuellen Erfahrungen
sind leider schwach (3.3 auf 486) und die Kom-
patibilitätsliste ist so neu nicht. Also frage ich:
Wer im Raum Hamburg baut sowas komplett auf?
Oder wer mag mir sein (neueres) System mailen?
Gerne mit AGP-Grafik, Printer!, ATAPI-CDRom.
Vielen Dank, Jörg.
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From: dmcger@aol.com (Dmcger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: V: Div. Handbücher
Date: 15 Dec 1998 11:58:47 GMT
Organization: AOL Bertelsmann Online GmbH & Co. KG http://www.germany.aol.com
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folgende Handbücher sind beim Abverkauf meiner NeXT übriggeblieben,
falls jemand etwas damit anfangen kann, ich gebe sie zusammen für 60,- DM + P&P
ab...
Compose In Color (UnterEcker)
On Duty (Dit)
Objective DB Toolkit (PSI)
VarioData (YumYum)
Marble Teleconnect (Marble)
ElectroFile (Insight)
DoveFax for NeXT (Dove)
Digital Ears User Manual (Metaresearch)
Color Snapshot User Manual (Metaresearch)
gruss micha
dmcger@aol.com
From: Rolf Woehrmann <Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Neue Drucker an NeXT PizzaBoxen?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:08:11 +0100
Organization: Steinberg
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Uli Zappe wrote:
> Rolf Woehrmann <Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de> wrote:
> > Apple Drucker Kabel kompatibel? Vielmehr, gibt
> > es Software Treiber fuer Ethernet Drucker?
>
> Brauchste nicht. Postscript-Ehternet-Drucker gehen Plug and Play (Du brauchst
> nur die PPD-Datei, die bei den Druckern dabei ist).
Ja, aber ich glaube das geht nur mit NS 3.3 wegen JetDirect, oder?
From: Rolf Woehrmann <Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Neue Drucker an NeXT PizzaBoxen?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:09:29 +0100
Organization: Steinberg
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Sven Droll wrote:
> Rolf Woehrmann <Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de> wrote:
> >Hallo,
> >
> >gibt es Loesungen fuer noch neu hergestellte Drucker
> >an NeXT PizzaBoxen? Viele haben nur noch parallel
> >Ports. Fuer die mit seriellen Anschluss fuer Apple
>
> Es gibt Parallel-Seriell-Konverter, mit denen wir schon Nadeldrucker und
> aehnliches an eine NeXT oder den seriellen Bus einer SUN angeschlossen haben
Hm, ein Nadeldrucker ist wohl von der Baudrate langsam genug,dass der NeXT ihn
bedienen kann. Sind aber nicht neue Drucker
zu schnell fuer die serielle NeXT Schnittstelle?
From: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Gigabyte-BIOS bootet Nextstep nicht ohne FDISK-Tabelle!
Date: 15 Dec 1998 18:00:13 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <75683d$jep$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Hallo,
das passiert mir jetzt schon zum zweiten Mal:
Nach Umruestung eines Rechners von einem ASUS-Pentium-Board auf ein
Gigabyte-PII-Board, will der Rechner das Nextstep nicht mehr booten:
Not found any [active partition] in HDD
Ein Problem des Mappings (s.u.) ist es dabei nicht, da erstens weder
der Controller noch das zugehoerige Bios (beidesmal NCR) gewechselt
wurde und ausserdem das Problem auch auftritt, wenn man mit dem Board
neu installiert. Zumindest, wenn man die ganze Platte fuer Nextstep
benutzt, statt "etwas Platz fuer DOS" zu reservieren.
Und genau darin liegt der Unterschied, im zweiten Fall ist eine
gueltige FDISK-Tabelle da und dann bootet er.
Diese Loesung hat aber mehrere Nachteile:
1) muss ich das System neu installieren
2) verliere ich Platz durch ungenutzten Partitionsverschnitt (einige
MB)
3) kommt die Meldung "d for DOS, n for Nextstep" bei jedem booten
und
4) hasse ich solche Notloesungen!
Hat jemand eine Idee, was man machen kann, ausser bei Gigabyte darauf
draengen, dass sie den Fehler beheben?
Dirk
PS: Eine dieser unsinnigen Bios-Altlasten, bei denen fuer den
Bootvorgang die SCSI-Platte von einer endlosen Folge von
durchnummerierten Sektoren in virtuelle Koepfe,Spuren,Sektoren
umgerechnet wird.
Diese Umrechnung macht jeder SCSI-Kontroller anders und da diese
willkuerlichen Kopf-,Spur-,Sektornummern in der FDISK-Tabelle stehen,
findet das Bios nach Controller-Wechsel die Partitionen nicht mehr.
Dirk
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Subject: FS:NEXT HOLIDAY SPECIALS
From: sales@deepspacetech.com (DeepSpace Technologies)
Organization: DeepSpace Technologies
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:11:37 GMT
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From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Intel Hardware Tips
Date: 16 Dec 1998 07:56:10 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <757p2q$oee$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <36762702.C77F16B2@public.uni-hamburg.de>
"J. Penning" <j_penning@public.uni-hamburg.de> writes
> Gerade wurde ich gebeten, einen Vorschlag f r eine
> Intel-Hardware zu machen, auf der NS3.3 oder
> OS 4.2 laufen soll. Meine aktuellen Erfahrungen
> sind leider schwach (3.3 auf 486) und die Kom-
> patibilit tsliste ist so neu nicht. Also frage ich:
>
> Wer im Raum Hamburg baut sowas komplett auf?
> Oder wer mag mir sein (neueres) System mailen?
> Gerne mit AGP-Grafik, Printer!, ATAPI-CDRom.
>
Hier mal ein Beispielrechner, der bei uns
mit OS 4.2 laeuft:
- ASUS Mainboard P2B mit BX-Chipsatz, Pentium II 400 MHz
- 128 MB SDRAM
- SCSI - Controller Adaptec 2940UW (3940 UW laeuft nicht!)
- Festplatte IBM DDRS 34560LVD Ultrastar 4,5 GB UW
- CD-ROM Toshiba XM6201B 32-fach SCSI
- Grafikkarte ATI Xpert@work, 8MB SGRAM
- Netzkarte 3COM 3C900 Combo, 10 MB Ethernetkarte
- 3 Tastenmaus Logitech Pilot, Cherry-Tastatur G81-3000
Desweiteren ist eine CreativeLabs Soundblaster 16 Bit Karte
drin, die wir aber nur unter Windoof nutzen.
Ciao
Martin
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Subject: Re: Neue Drucker an NeXT PizzaBoxen?
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <36778b4a.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 16 Dec 98 10:28:26 GMT
Rolf Woehrmann <Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de> wrote:
>Sven Droll wrote:
---snip---
>> Es gibt Parallel-Seriell-Konverter, mit denen wir schon Nadeldrucker
>> und aehnliches an eine NeXT oder den seriellen Bus einer SUN
>> angeschlossen haben
>
>Hm, ein Nadeldrucker ist wohl von der Baudrate langsam genug,dass der
>NeXT ihn bedienen kann. Sind aber nicht neue Drucker zu schnell fuer
>die serielle NeXT Schnittstelle?
Gut moeglich. An einer SPARC-NeXT hatten wir als neuesten Drucker einen HP
DeskJet 870Cxi (immerhin :-) ) ueber den Konverter angeschlossen. Die
Baudrate war dabei aber aehnlich niedrig wie bei einer schwarzen NeXT. An
einer schwarzen NeXT haben wir aber wirklich nur die Nadler getestet ...
Sven
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From: jindra@uni-koblenz.de (Axel Jindra)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: 4 Gigabyte Limit
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:38:52 +0100
Organization: IfM@UniKo
Message-ID: <jindra-1612981138520001@descartes.uni-koblenz.de>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.981206153509.305A-100000@ibm> <F3n1LB.LF6@onevision.de>
In article <F3n1LB.LF6@onevision.de>, hans@onevision.de wrote:
> > Partition zu installieren und in den ersten beiden andere System wie
> etwa
> > W95 und NT. Die NS/OS Installation funktioniert *NUR*, wenn sie in einer
> > Partition erfolgt, die unterhalb von 4GB beginnt. Daraus kann
> >geschlossen
>
> ich w rde eher sagen unter 2GB!
>
Nein. Meine 8GB-Platte habe ich folgendermassen eingerichtet:
Zuerst mit OpenStep im Setup zwei Partitionen erstellt zu je 2 GB, die
untere (logischerweise) als FAT-16. OpenStep installiert. Dann unter Linux
weitere Partitionen oberhalb angelegt (1 primaere und eine erweiterte mit
4 logischen). NT mit NTFS in die erste, Linux / in die dritte, /swap usw.
in die logischen installiert.
Mit Hilfe des OpenStep-"Bootmanagers" kann jetzt von jeder der primaeren
Partitionen gebootet werden. Als letzte logische habe ich noch eine
FAT-16, die aber nur von Linux und NT aus angesprochen werden kann (so
dass das Limit von OpenStep wohl wirklich bei 4 GB liegt).
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Universitaet in Koblenz (jindra@uni-koblenz.de)
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Gigabyte-BIOS bootet Nextstep nicht ohne FDISK-Tabelle!
Date: 16 Dec 1998 10:34:19 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
Message-ID: <7582bb$b3u2@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <75683d$jep$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Dirk Schwarzhans (dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE) wrote:
: Hallo,
Hallo!
:
: das passiert mir jetzt schon zum zweiten Mal:
: Nach Umruestung eines Rechners von einem ASUS-Pentium-Board auf ein
: Gigabyte-PII-Board, will der Rechner das Nextstep nicht mehr booten:
:
: Not found any [active partition] in HDD
:
: Ein Problem des Mappings (s.u.) ist es dabei nicht, da erstens weder
: der Controller noch das zugehoerige Bios (beidesmal NCR) gewechselt
: [...]
Ich nehme an hier ist das SCSI-BIOS gemeint, nicht das 'Board'-BIOS!?
Ferner meine ich mich zu erinnern, in einer der letzten c't's (Frage
und Antwort Ecke) gelesen zu haben, dass einige BIOS(-Board)-Hersteller
inzwischen so "schlau" gewesen sind ihr BIOS so 'clever' zu machen,
dass es selbst nach einer aktiven (FDISK) Partition sucht und nicht
mehr den MBR anspringt und dessen Code arbeiten laesst. Ist keine
da, bootet das System nicht, was einen dann auf die geniale IBM/Intel/
Microsoft Partitionsloesung festlegt.
Das scheint mir hier der Fall zu sein. Ich kann mich (in der Antwort)
nicht an eine Loesung erinnern (hoechstens a la: Aelteres BIOS des
Herstellers nehmen etc.)
Also ist das 'aufmerksam' machen und sich beschweren wohl der beste
Weg, wollen wir nicht alle zukuenftig auf diesen Schwachsinn fest-
gelegt sein - optional nehme ich ihn ja ganz gerne (in Kauf).
Gruss,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: stephan@inis-2.inis.de (Stephan Waerther)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Bundles unter Windows NT
Date: 16 Dec 98 14:22:52 GMT
Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie
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Was muss man tun um Bundles unter Windows NT zu compilieren? Beim Versuch das
Bundle zu compilieren gibt es jedesmal die Fehlermeldung LNK 1120 vom Linker.
In NeXTanser 2462 werden zwar einige Hinweise gegeben, funktioniert hat aber
nichts.Geaendert hat sich lediglich die Fehlernummer vom Linker.
Ein weiteres Problem unter NT ist evtl. die Deklaration von globalen
String-Konstanten
mittels: extern NSString *. Jedenfalls lÙuft das Programm stabiler nachdem
wir #define
verwenden. Hat hierzu jemand Erfahrung?
Danke!
- Stephan
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From: dkrueger@oec.uni-osnabrueck.de (Dietmar Krueger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: S: NeXT 68k Hardware
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 17:32:35 +0200
Organization: Universitaet Osnabrueck FB BWL/WI2
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Ein komplettes gut erhaltenes System, dass von mir persoenlich abgeholt wird.
Gruss
Dietmar Krueger
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Neue Drucker an NeXT PizzaBoxen?
Date: 16 Dec 1998 16:25:59 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU
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Rolf Woehrmann <Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de> wrote:
> Uli Zappe wrote:
> > Rolf Woehrmann <Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de> wrote:
> > > Apple Drucker Kabel kompatibel? Vielmehr, gibt
> > > es Software Treiber fuer Ethernet Drucker?
> > Brauchste nicht. Postscript-Ehternet-Drucker gehen Plug and Play (Du
> > brauchst nur die PPD-Datei, die bei den Druckern dabei ist).
> Ja, aber ich glaube das geht nur mit NS 3.3 wegen JetDirect, oder?
Wieso, ist bei 4.2 bezüglich JetDirect irgendwas anders?
Tschau
Uli
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From: Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,maus.computer.os2
Subject: Re: Drucken =?US-ASCII?Q?=FCber?= lpr/lpd: Banner abstellen???
Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next
Date: 16 Dec 1998 17:11:21 +0100
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Sender: twetzel@lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de
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References: <367422FE.178959A9@cs.tu-berlin.de> <753jfl$2ot$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> writes:
> In de.comp.sys.next Matthias Heidbrink <mh@cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> : Hi,
>
> : ich habe eine NeXTstation Color mit NeXTstep 3.3 und drucke auf einen
> : PostScript-Drucker an einer OS/2-Kiste. Der lpd auf OS/2-Seite scheint
> : voll BSD-komptibel zu sein.
> : Das Ganze tut's wunderbar, aber leider bekomme ich immer bei jedem
> : Druckjob zwei Seiten Banner, offensichtlich je eine davon von der
> : NeXTstation und eine vom lpd auf dem OS/2-Rechner. Wie kann man die
> : Banner abstellen?
>
> Der lpr wird auf der Next-Seite immer mit -J xxx aufgerufen, was
> dann auch einem korrekt BSD-kompatiblen lpd eine Bannerpage
> erzeugt. Laesst sich m.W. nach nur mit einem patch abstellen.
Wenn ich mich recht erinnere, sollte ein :sh: (fuer suppress headers)
im printcap (bei niload) bzw. eine Property sh direkt in Netinfo schon
reichen (s. printcap(5)). Stand: NS3.3
Timm
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From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: LatinByrd III v7
Date: 16 Dec 1998 18:02:02 GMT
Organization: Customer of EUnet Austria
Message-ID: <758siq$4h0$1@fleetstreet.Austria.EU.net>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Dec 1998 18:02:02 GMT
LatinByrd III ist ab sofort in der Version 7 verfuegbar. Weitere
Informationen, Release Notes etc. unter:
http://members.eunet.at/stefan.schneider/LatinByrdProduktInfo.html
oder LB III v7 gleich absaugen von:
http://www.noir.net/sss/LatinByrd.IIIv7.NIHS.b.tar.gz
(2323424 bytes)
http://www.noir.net/sss/LatinByrd.IIIv7.LIESMICH
(8443 bytes)
Superkurzinfo: LatinByrd ist ein RTF/RTFD/ASCII/nroff-auf-HTML
und TIFF/EPS-auf-GIF/PNG/JPEG Konverter. LatinByrd laueft auf
NEXTSTEP 3.2 oder hoeher, sowie auf NS/OS 4.x fuer Mach.
LatinByrd ist ein kommerzielles Produkt. Die Demo-Version ist
voll lizenzierbar. KOSTENLOSE zeitlich begrenzte Test-Lizenzen
sind verfuegbar. Bestell-Informationen, Preise usw. usf. siehe
http://members.eunet.at/stefan.schneider/gindex.html.
- Stefan Schneider
PS: fuer alle, die _nicht_ Schifahren fahren, sondern ueber
die Feiertage zuhause bleiben --- dieser Lizenzschluessel:
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Drucken ueber pr/lpd: Banner abstellen???
Date: 16 Dec 1998 18:22:50 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <758tpq$4f$2@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <367422FE.178959A9@cs.tu-berlin.de> <753jfl$2ot$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <tqfg1ag6p92.fsf@lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Dec 1998 18:22:50 GMT
Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de> wrote:
>Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> writes:
>
>> In de.comp.sys.next Matthias Heidbrink <mh@cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> : Hi,
>>
>> : ich habe eine NeXTstation Color mit NeXTstep 3.3 und drucke auf einen
>> : [...]
>> : Banner abstellen?
>>
>> Der lpr wird auf der Next-Seite immer mit -J xxx aufgerufen, was
>> dann auch einem korrekt BSD-kompatiblen lpd eine Bannerpage
>> erzeugt. Laesst sich m.W. nach nur mit einem patch abstellen.
>
>Wenn ich mich recht erinnere, sollte ein :sh: (fuer suppress headers)
>im printcap (bei niload) bzw. eine Property sh direkt in Netinfo schon
>reichen (s. printcap(5)). Stand: NS3.3
>
sh hat bei mir (printserver aix 4.x) nie funktioniert. insofern danke fuer
den patch :-)
daniel
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Drucken ueber pr/lpd: Banner abstellen???
Date: 17 Dec 1998 02:21:48 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <759prs$ha7$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <367422FE.178959A9@cs.tu-berlin.de> <753jfl$2ot$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <tqfg1ag6p92.fsf@lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de> <758tpq$4f$2@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Daniel Boehringer <boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
: Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de> wrote:
: >Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> writes:
: >
: >> In de.comp.sys.next Matthias Heidbrink <mh@cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
: >> : Hi,
: >>
: >> : ich habe eine NeXTstation Color mit NeXTstep 3.3 und drucke auf einen
: >> : [...]
: >> : Banner abstellen?
: >>
: >> Der lpr wird auf der Next-Seite immer mit -J xxx aufgerufen, was
: >> dann auch einem korrekt BSD-kompatiblen lpd eine Bannerpage
: >> erzeugt. Laesst sich m.W. nach nur mit einem patch abstellen.
: >
: >Wenn ich mich recht erinnere, sollte ein :sh: (fuer suppress headers)
: >im printcap (bei niload) bzw. eine Property sh direkt in Netinfo schon
: >reichen (s. printcap(5)). Stand: NS3.3
: >
: sh hat bei mir (printserver aix 4.x) nie funktioniert. insofern danke fuer
: den patch :-)
Das war ja auch mein Problem - daher der Patch :-)
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From: as01106@muenster.net
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Wege fuer Ihr Erfolg
Date: 17 Dec 1998 09:38:18 GMT
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Neue Drucker an NeXT PizzaBoxen?
Date: 17 Dec 1998 09:42:12 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
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Rolf Woehrmann (Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de) wrote:
: [...]
: Hm, ein Nadeldrucker ist wohl von der Baudrate langsam genug,dass der
: NeXT ihn bedienen kann. Sind aber nicht neue Drucker zu schnell fuer
: die serielle NeXT Schnittstelle?
Das "'zu' schnell" bezieht sich hier auf die Auslastung des Druckers,
oder? (9.6k, 19.2k, 38.4k sind alle mit der 'schwarzen Hardware'
machbar, mindestens mit Slabs.)
Bei nicht PS-faehigen 'Nadlern', sollte man auch beruecksichtigen,
dass die Wandlung (auf z.B. PCL) erhebliche Zeit benoetigt (unabhaengig
von der Geschwindigkeit des Datentransports) und(!) dann noch die
meist groessere (Bit-)Datenmenge 'ueber die Leitung' geschickt werden
muss.
Zu einem weiteren angesprochenen Punkt: (Mindestens) ab NS3.3 (ich glaube,
genau ab 3.3) funktioniert die JetDirect-Ansteuerung fuer NeXT/Intel
(und vermutlich auch SUN/HP) NEXTSTEP und(!) OPENSTEP (also 4.x) Versionen
direkt aus dem Betriebssystem (und bei uns problemlos!).
Gruss,
Ruediger
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From: gloger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Jochen Gloger)
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Subject: Re: Gigabyte-BIOS bootet Nextstep nicht ohne FDISK-Tabelle!
Date: 17 Dec 1998 12:57:02 GMT
Organization: debis Systemhaus GmbH
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In <75683d$jep$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Dirk Schwarzhans wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> das passiert mir jetzt schon zum zweiten Mal:
> Nach Umruestung eines Rechners von einem ASUS-Pentium-Board auf ein
> Gigabyte-PII-Board, will der Rechner das Nextstep nicht mehr booten:
>
> Not found any [active partition] in HDD
>
> Ein Problem des Mappings (s.u.) ist es dabei nicht, da erstens weder
> der Controller noch das zugehoerige Bios (beidesmal NCR) gewechselt
> wurde und ausserdem das Problem auch auftritt, wenn man mit dem Board
> neu installiert. Zumindest, wenn man die ganze Platte fuer Nextstep
> benutzt, statt "etwas Platz fuer DOS" zu reservieren.
> Und genau darin liegt der Unterschied, im zweiten Fall ist eine
> gueltige FDISK-Tabelle da und dann bootet er.
> Diese Loesung hat aber mehrere Nachteile:
> 1) muss ich das System neu installieren
> 2) verliere ich Platz durch ungenutzten Partitionsverschnitt (einige
> MB)
> 3) kommt die Meldung "d for DOS, n for Nextstep" bei jedem booten
> und
> 4) hasse ich solche Notloesungen!
>
> Hat jemand eine Idee, was man machen kann, ausser bei Gigabyte darauf
> draengen, dass sie den Fehler beheben?
>
Hallo,
wir haben genau die gleiche Erfahrung machen müssen, was umso ärgerlicher
t, da wir schon immer Gigabyte-Boards benutzt haben und dieser Effekt jetzt
das erste Mal aufgetreten ist. Offenbar hat man das BIOS "verschlimmbessert".
Wir musten tatsächlich die Platten, die wir sonst unverändert weiter
zen konnten, umkopieren.
Als Lösung kann ich nur empfehlen künftig ASUS-Boards zu benutzen, bei diesen
n Boards hatten wir keinerlei Probleme.
Gruß
Jochen
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From: Rolf Woehrmann <rolf@tick.ti6.tu-harburg.de>
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Subject: Re: Neue Drucker an NeXT PizzaBoxen?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:41:45 +0100
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Uli Zappe wrote:
> Rolf Woehrmann <Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de> wrote:
> > Uli Zappe wrote:
> > > Rolf Woehrmann <Rolf.Woehrmann@steinberg.de> wrote:
> > > > Apple Drucker Kabel kompatibel? Vielmehr, gibt
> > > > es Software Treiber fuer Ethernet Drucker?
> > > Brauchste nicht. Postscript-Ehternet-Drucker gehen Plug and Play (Du
> > > brauchst nur die PPD-Datei, die bei den Druckern dabei ist).
> > Ja, aber ich glaube das geht nur mit NS 3.3 wegen JetDirect, oder?
>
> Wieso, ist bei 4.2 bezüglich JetDirect irgendwas anders?
Neee, aber NS 3.2 und alle vorherigen unterstuetzen das nicht ;->
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From: schmadde@prenzl.net (Martin Schmachtel)
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Subject: Re: Gigabyte-BIOS bootet Nextstep nicht ohne FDISK-Tabelle!
Date: 17 Dec 1998 15:33:52 GMT
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>Dirk Schwarzhans (dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE) wrote:
>: das passiert mir jetzt schon zum zweiten Mal:
>: Nach Umruestung eines Rechners von einem ASUS-Pentium-Board auf ein
>: Gigabyte-PII-Board, will der Rechner das Nextstep nicht mehr booten:
>:
>: Not found any [active partition] in HDD
Habe ich auch schonmal gehabt bei einem Gigabyte-Board. Die scheinen ein
ziemlich krankes BIOS zu haben, das selbst die Partitionstabelle abfragt,
anstatt einfach den Code im MBR abzuarbeiten. Es ist wohl besser man läßt
die Finger von Gigabyte-Boards (habe auch schon andere Probleme mit den
Dingern gehabt).
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From: Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de>
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Subject: Re: Drucken ueber pr/lpd: Banner abstellen???
Date: 17 Dec 1998 22:41:45 +0100
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> : Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de> wrote:
> : >Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> writes:
> : >
> : >> In de.comp.sys.next Matthias Heidbrink <mh@cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> : >> : Hi,
> : >>
> : >> : ich habe eine NeXTstation Color mit NeXTstep 3.3 und drucke auf einen
> : >> : [...]
> : >> : Banner abstellen?
[...]
> : sh hat bei mir (printserver aix 4.x) nie funktioniert. insofern danke fuer
> : den patch :-)
>
>
> Das war ja auch mein Problem - daher der Patch :-)
Naja, bei AIX ist das ja geradezu zu erwarten...
Ich erinnere mich da jedenfalls an heftige Reibereien zwischen AIX-
und anderen Spoolern.
(Oder benoetigt man etwa _nxfinalform, damit sh funktioniert?)
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From: From: cme@ipt-gmbh.de (Christian Metzger)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: V: NeXT Turbo Color Station
Date: 20 Dec 1998 13:40:59 GMT
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Hallo,
ich verkaufe meine Turbo Color Station, falls jemand interessiert ist:
NeXT Turbo Color Station
32 MB RAM
500 MB HD
17" Fimi Monitor
Non ADB, Mouse, Keyboard, Soundbox etc.
Man hat die Wahl zwischen NEXTSTEP 3.3 + Developer installiert oder OPENSTEP
4.2 + Developer. Jede Menge Software für Interessierte (einfach nachfragen!)
Preis ist Verhandlungssache!
Viele Grüße
Christian Metzger
From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Druckerproblem
Date: 20 Dec 1998 21:10:34 GMT
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Hi!
hat jemand eine Idee, wie ich meinem NeXT Laserprinter das Barcode-Drucken
abgewöhnen kann?
Genauer:
Seit kurzem druckt mein Drucker nicht mehr ordentlich, tendenz schlimmer
werdend. Es fing damit an, daß etwa die untere Hälfe eines Ausdrucks an
einen quer über das ganze Blatt gehenden, vertikal zu lesenden Barcode
erinnert. Soll heißen, es gibt massig schwarze Streifen. In den noch
weißen Zeilen ist noch das eigentliche Druckgut zu erkennen, allerdings
sieht es so aus, als ob die Laserlogik ein paar Probleme mit dem HSync
hat, da das ganze leicht horizontal verzerrt erscheint. Benachbarte Zeilen
haben meist höchstens ein Pixel zusätzlichen Versatz. Nach einem solchen
Ausdruck tut sich dann druckermäßig erstmal gar nichts mehr bis zum
nächsten Reboot, wenn auch einmal nach einer Viertelstunde noch ein weiteres,
wieder barcodiges Blatt herauskam. Ziemlich unmotiviert. Mittlerweile sind
mehr als 90% der Blattoberfläche schwarz, es kommen nur noch vereinzelte
weiße Zeilen vor - immernoch mit Druckgut durchsetzt. Ein thermisches
Problem ist es nicht, es ist ziemlich egal, ob der Drucker und der Computer
(NeXTstation mono 25MHz) schon lange an oder lange aus waren. (lange =
mehr als 24 Stunden). Bis vor kurzem funktionierte das Gespann einwandfrei,
und außer ab und zu Drucken tut die Kiste eigentlich nichts mehr.
Antworten bitte auch als EMail an mich.
Besten Dank im Voraus,
Uli
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <367e17dc.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 21 Dec 98 09:41:48 GMT
From: cme@ipt-gmbh.de (Christian Metzger) wrote:
---snip---
>Man hat die Wahl zwischen NEXTSTEP 3.3 + Developer installiert oder
>OPENSTEP 4.2 + Developer. Jede Menge Software für Interessierte
>(einfach nachfragen!)
>
>Preis ist Verhandlungssache!
Was wuerdest Du fuer OS4.2 + Dev. verlangen ?
Gruss
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From: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de>
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next
Subject: ASUS P2B mit SCSI
Date: 24 Dec 1998 11:27:59 +0100
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Hi,
hat jemals jemand versucht, den 2940U2W onboard auf einem
ASUS P2B unter OPENSTEP 4.2 zu verwenden? Es ist ein
neuerer Chip, der auch mit anderen Betriebssystemen gern
Aerger macht.
Danke fuer Info, Stephan
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 22:27:31 +0100
From: Markus <wmt16@rzserv2.fh-lueneburg.de>
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Guten Tach!
Habe folgende Hardware zum Verkauf anzubieten:
NeXTstation Turbo Mono, 33Mhz, 64MB RAM, 700MB FP, 17" B/W Monitor
mit Tastatur und Maus
+ Software: Nextstep 3.3 User / 3.2 Developer, FrameMaker 3.2, alle
Lighthouse Produkte, NXFax + Zyxel 1496e, ....
Gruß
- Markus
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Subject: Re: ASUS P2B mit SCSI
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:46:05 +0100
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Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> wrote:
> hat jemals jemand versucht, den 2940U2W onboard auf einem
> ASUS P2B unter OPENSTEP 4.2 zu verwenden? Es ist ein
> neuerer Chip, der auch mit anderen Betriebssystemen gern
> Aerger macht.
Hallo Stephan,
es ist ein Adaptec 7890 und er funktioniert nicht mit OS4.2.
Im September habe ich eine Mail von Apple bekommen, dass der Treiber hoechste
Prioritaet hat. Jetzt sind 3 Monate vergangen und es gibt noch nicht mal eine
Beta.
Die Openstep-Treiberentwicklung bei Apple (hoffentlich nicht die gesamte
Entwicklung) scheint tot zu sein ...
- Karsten
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From: peter@rasmussen.org
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Subject: FS: Black NeXT Hardware
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:19:22 GMT
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I have the following Black NeXT Hardware for sales,
- 2x B/W Turbo Next Station Motherboards $100 each
- 1x B/W Mega Pixel Display $200
- 2x B/W Long Monitor Cables 3m/10ft long $ 50 each
All in fine shape and located in Denmark (Europe)
Prices are ex transportation
Cheers,
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
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Subject: Tote NeXT: Netzteil kaputt?
Date: 29 Dec 1998 10:53:16 GMT
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Wir haben eine NeXT Colorstation, die sich nach einem Stromausfall nicht
mehr einschalten läßt. Es ist unklar, ob der Stromausfall ggfs. durch
sie selbst (lief im Dauerbetrieb) hervorgerufen worden ist.
Die Batterie zeigt eingebaut 3,03 V, beim Drücken der Einschalttaste auf
der Tastatur sinkt der Wert auf 2,97 V. Am Netzteilstecker auf der
Platine ist keinerlei Spannung meßbar (schwarz ist Masse, oder?).
Könnte das Netzteil hinüber sein? Hat es intern eine Sicherung?
Sollten wir mal das Netzteil aufschrauben? Woran könnte das Problem
liegen?
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