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From: "Avery Glasser" <Avery.Glasser@mci.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newbie question
Message-ID: <ggbU.4865$lJ5.1320189@news.internetMCI.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:14:20 GMT
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I was wondering... I have just ordered a Color NextStation,
with NextStep 3.3 loaded.
I know that NextStep 3.3 can run all NextStep and POSIX 1.0
applications. Can it also compile BSD 4.4?
Just wondering,
Avery Glasser
From: bobk@decide.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Gnu binaries
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:57:38 -0600
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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Can anyone point me to intel or MAB binaries for two GNU utilities, cpio and
tar. I have a NeXT portable (no developer's kit), so I can't compile the
sources which I have found on the net. I need them for backups across a
company network. Thanks in advance.
Yours in ignorance/Bob Korsan
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From: dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: open letter to Norbert Heger: LaunchBar and Fiend
Date: 1 Apr 1998 12:49:25 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <6ftun5$ne3@panix.com>
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[posted to c.s.n.software and mailed]
Hi. First I'd like to say what a great tool LaunchBar
is - I just starting using the new version and I love it.
Second, I wanted to let you know that I have just released
souce code to Fiend1.4.1 and a tool called ctxt-util that abstracts
out a bunch of Fiend's context handling secrets.
Since I am no longer maintaining Fiend, I'd love to see some
of its trickier elements survive in a currently maintained app.
LaunchBar seems a likely candidate to me.
You can find the new releases in:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions
Thanks again for a great tool.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@panix.com
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony G. Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: need NeXT web browser for 3.0 OS On Black Cube
Date: 31 Mar 1998 22:20:16 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College
Message-ID: <6frq70$cg$1@calvin.skidmore.edu>
Keywords: browser
Xcanpos: shelf.01/199804130201!0035252593
I'm looking for an ftp location to get a web browser (free?) for my one
next cube running OS 3.0.
any suggestions?
Thanks
Anthony Holland
Skidmore College
email: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
From: Timothy Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid-address@luomat.peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: open letter to Norbert Heger: LaunchBar and Fiend
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:33:16 -0500
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To: "David C. Lambert" <dcl@panix.com>
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[posted to c.s.n.software and mailed]
On 1 Apr 1998, David C. Lambert wrote:
> Hi. First I'd like to say what a great tool LaunchBar
> is - I just starting using the new version and I love it.
What he said!
> Second, I wanted to let you know that I have just released
> souce code to Fiend1.4.1
Kudos for this! Much excellent software source code has been lost because
the author basically kept the source until they lost/deleted it. The
release of Fiend source code is a great thing!
(I, of course, am hoping that someone will take up the task of porting it
to Rhapsody to make up for the atrocious decision to not have a dock IIRC)
> Since I am no longer maintaining Fiend, I'd love to see some of its
> trickier elements survive in a currently maintained app. LaunchBar
> seems a likely candidate to me.
It could be a great merger of functionality!
> Thanks again for a great tool.
FWIW I think that Fiend is one of the coolest apps out there...
TjL
From: nurban@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did I miss something ? (Re: Rapsody due date)
Date: 1 Apr 1998 17:03:17 -0500
Organization: Data Systems Consulting, Inc.
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In article <6fub52$c7j$6@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>, cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com wrote:
> I wasn't aware that Apple had publicly announced any plans for the Yellow Box
> for the MacOS?
I _thought_ they did, but I can't point to a press release to prove it.
I'm pretty sure there have been quotes from Apple people to that effect..
In fact, see item #5 of the list in the BANG meeting recap, at:
http://www.bang.org/recap.html
(Though, as I mentioned, they've never stated _when_ this will be
done by..)
From: Charles Swiger <chuck-nospam@blacksmith.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did I miss something ? (Re: Rapsody due date)
Date: 1 Apr 1998 21:21:38 GMT
Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc.
Message-ID: <6fub52$c7j$6@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>
References: <schumach-3103982253210001@129.194.16.71> <6ft3k8$nat$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> <6ftcjl$mpm$1@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us>
nurban@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (Nathan Urban) wrote:
[ ... ]
>>> Sonata will bring the Mach kernel, Rhapsody core OS, and Yellow Box APIs
>>> to the Mac OS thanks to a powerful new Transparent Blue Box -- all part
>>
>> *whoosh* (sound of something flying over my head apparently)
>> when did this make it's appearance then ?
>
> It's not out and Apple has not announced a release data, only that they
> intend to port Yellow Box to MacOS at some point.
I wasn't aware that Apple had publicly announced any plans for the Yellow Box
for the MacOS? Are the NDA-impaired allowed to talk about it? :-)
-Chuck
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From: kwontaeh@egr.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Jetpilot and Printing problem...
Date: 2 Apr 1998 10:11:32 GMT
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hello...
I am having some trouble printing under Openstep 4.2 intel. I have downloaded
the Jetpilot stuff from the Peak and installed it. I am assuming that my
printer port is not properly configured. I mean I added the printer port but
it does not have any IRQ or DMA numbers. When I try to print, my printer(HP
Deskjet 682) keeps on blinking and after 10 minutes, it prints about 1 inch
line(all black) and rejects the paper. It still keeps on blinking after
printing that lineand. Am I supposed to have IRQ and DMA numbers when adding
the printer port? My motherboard has AMI bios on it but I am not very sure
how to change the IRQs around.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Tony Kwon
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NeXTMail is appreciated!
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kwontaeh@cps.msu.edu
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Lookin' forward to get the
awesomest OS ever created
in our mankind... BeOS!
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From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did I miss something ? (Re: Rapsody due date)
Date: 2 Apr 1998 06:28:52 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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Charles Swiger <chuck-nospam@blacksmith.com> writes:
>nurban@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (Nathan Urban) wrote:
>[ ... ]
>>>> Sonata will bring the Mach kernel, Rhapsody core OS, and Yellow Box APIs
>>>> to the Mac OS thanks to a powerful new Transparent Blue Box -- all part
>>>
>>> *whoosh* (sound of something flying over my head apparently)
>>> when did this make it's appearance then ?
>>
>> It's not out and Apple has not announced a release data, only that they
>> intend to port Yellow Box to MacOS at some point.
>I wasn't aware that Apple had publicly announced any plans for the Yellow Box
>for the MacOS? Are the NDA-impaired allowed to talk about it? :-)
Well, Apple representative showed slides and repeatedly said it
would available for the next MacOS release (Allegro) in summer.
This was at MacWorld Germany, no NDAs required.
Marcel
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From: Charles Swiger <chuck-nospam@blacksmith.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3Com Etherlink-Driver seems to be a bit slow (70kByte/s)
Date: 31 Mar 1998 19:15:07 GMT
Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc.
Message-ID: <6frfbr$iq0$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>
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ahoesch@on-luebeck.de wrote:
> I've to hosts connected via Thin Ethernet (3Com EtherLink III) using the
> drivers shipped with OPENSTEP 4.2 MACH. Using YFTP I get transfer rates of
> less than 70 kByte/s. Is this normal?
Not at all, although some of the 3Com cards (the older ones in particular)
are known to have problems....
> I first thought about a broken coax cable or a bad terminator but replacing
> both did not change anything. Using a 10MBit Ethernet connection I
> expected transfer rates of 1000 kByte/s.
About that, yeah, although congestion will reduce that to around 500K/s for a
reasonable sized network which has normal amounts of traffic going through
it. Take a look at 'netstat -i' and 'netstat -s', and look for unusual
collision or error rates.
-Chuck
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From: Charles Swiger <chuck-nospam@blacksmith.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Editor with language-specific syntax highlights
Date: 31 Mar 1998 19:06:25 GMT
Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc.
Message-ID: <6frerh$iq0$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>
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clint.harris@software.com (Clint Harris) wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm looking for an editor that has language-specific syntax
> highlights. Something like XEmacs or NEdit but for OpenStep.
There's a machine-specific port of "Emacs for NEXTSTEP" which has native
window display and color support that you might want to look into.
-Chuck
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From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Did I miss something ? (Re: Rapsody due date)
Date: 1 Apr 1998 10:07:04 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
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schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) writes:
> Sonata will bring the Mach kernel, Rhapsody core OS, and Yellow Box APIs
> to the Mac OS thanks to a powerful new Transparent Blue Box -- all part
*whoosh* (sound of something flying over my head apparently)
when did this make it's appearance then ? does this actually mean that
OpenStep programs will be compliable and runnable under MacOS 8 then ?
Does this mean in effect that I don't have to persuade people to run
Rhapsody in order to run my software ? I can't find any references to it on
Apples site.
-bat.
From: me@seifert.educ.mun.ca (Tim Seifert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did I miss something ? (Re: Rapsody due date)
Date: 2 Apr 1998 14:14:26 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
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Will NeXTSTEP 3.3 apps run under Rhapsody and/or Sonata?
In article <6ftcjl$mpm$1@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us>
nurban@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (Nathan Urban) writes:
> In article <6ft3k8$nat$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>, pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
wrote:
> > schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) writes:
>
> > > Sonata will bring the Mach kernel, Rhapsody core OS, and Yellow Box
APIs
> > > to the Mac OS thanks to a powerful new Transparent Blue Box -- all
part
>
> > *whoosh* (sound of something flying over my head apparently)
>
> > when did this make it's appearance then ?
>
> It's not out and Apple has not announced a release data, only that they
> intend to port Yellow Box to MacOS at some point.
>
> > does this actually mean that
> > OpenStep programs will be compliable and runnable under MacOS 8 then ?
>
> Yes. There may be a few limitations due to the operating system (for
> example, I seem to recall that the Windows 95 version doesn't have full
> thread support or something), but basically yes.
>
> > Does this mean in effect that I don't have to persuade people to run
> > Rhapsody in order to run my software ?
>
> Yes (assuming your software is OpenStep, of course!), though it will
> run _better_ under Rhapsody.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did I miss something ? (Re: Rapsody due date)
Date: 2 Apr 1998 15:35:29 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
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In article <6g06g2$8oh$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> me@seifert.educ.mun.ca (Tim
Seifert) writes:
> Will NeXTSTEP 3.3 apps run under Rhapsody and/or Sonata?
No. Sad, but true.
--
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From: clint.harris@software.com (Clint Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: TaskMaster Manual??
Date: 2 Apr 1998 18:37:33 GMT
Organization: Software.com
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Hi,
Does anyone have a digital copy of the TaskMaster manual from LightHouse
Design? I know that there is online help but I'm looking for a more inclusive
rtf manual. Please let me know if you have one. Thank you.
-Clint
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From: clint.harris@software.com (Clint Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Does anyone have more palette's for Diagram?
Date: 2 Apr 1998 18:40:36 GMT
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Hi,
Does anyone have any more palette's for Diagram! from LightHouse Design? I
thought that at one time there was a palette archive on the Net. Please let
me know if you have any others not included in Diagram! v2.5. Thank you.
-Clint
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIP: CAPer works well with LaserWriter Bridge
Date: 2 Apr 1998 21:55:40 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
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In <351FCA70.5FB5@writeme.com> Wassim M Jabi wrote:
> I was even able to use Adobe's Font Installer (a very old NeXTSTEP
> application) to download and install fonts onto the LaserWriter's
> memory. This way, I can print my documents without having to save as a
> Postscript file first with the included fonts.
Nice to hear this works :-)
BTW you can also use the '_nxfinalform' property for your printer to include
all fonts automagically (just add it with NetInfoManager - and beware the
CAPer/BPF/NetInfoManager problem as stated in the CAPer README).
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From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did I miss something ? (Re: Rapsody due date)
Date: 3 Apr 1998 01:02:12 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
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Rex Dieter (rdieter@math.unl.edu) wrote:
: In article <6g0lok$9rn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> spagiola@usa.net writes:
: > rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote:
: > > > Will NeXTSTEP 3.3 apps run under Rhapsody and/or Sonata?
: > > No. Sad, but true.
: > I've been wondering... how hard would it be to hack a "Black box" for
: > Rhapsody that would allow NeXTSTEP apps to run?
: 2. remember these apps would run and display with the "old" NeXT
: look-and-feel, which is definitely not MACish enough for Apple. (-;
: 3. It is, I suspect, a low priority to support us small group of "old
: NeXT" users.
We could use VirtualPC for the MacOS, install NeXTSTEP into it, and run it
in the Blue Box.
And then, we could run Executor for NeXTSTEP in that, and then use
Executor to run SoftPC for the Mac. Well, maybe not. But the first part
might work... :-)
--Chris
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From: spagiola@usa.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did I miss something ? (Re: Rapsody due date)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 12:37:55 -0600
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rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote:
> > Will NeXTSTEP 3.3 apps run under Rhapsody and/or Sonata?
>
> No. Sad, but true.
I've been wondering... how hard would it be to hack a "Black box" for Rhapsody
that would allow NeXTSTEP apps to run? Just as the Blue Box will help Mac
people transition, a Black Box would be useful for us former NeXTSTEPpers as
we transition to Rhapsody.
Stefano Pagiola
My opinions alone
Longtime MacOS and NeXTSTEP user, reluctant Windows 95/NT user, future
Rhapsody user
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From: bobs@phys.washington.edu (Robert Singleton)
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Subject: news server
Date: 3 Apr 1998 03:54:04 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <6g1mgs$19fu$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu>
I'm running NS3.2 on the old black hardware. I'm a bit tired of using
the news server here, as the powers that be seem to have censored a
large sector of usenet. Would there be an nntp news server available
for my machine (preferably in pre-compiled format)? Thanks very much.
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From: *leeron <sabrina@cnn.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 21:09:15 PST
Organization: new products
Subject: ***** making money on the internet
Message-ID: <04021998210915sabrina@cnn.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Does anyone have more palette's for Diagram?
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:45:17 -0500
Organization: Michigan State University
Sender: blazek@entropy6
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.980403024434.5232A-100000@entropy6>
References: <6g0m34$807$2@gte1.gte.net>
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To: Clint Harris <clint.harris@software.com>
In-Reply-To: <6g0m34$807$2@gte1.gte.net>
On 2 Apr 1998, Clint Harris wrote:
> Hi,
> Does anyone have any more palette's for Diagram! from LightHouse Design? I
> thought that at one time there was a palette archive on the Net. Please let
> me know if you have any others not included in Diagram! v2.5. Thank you.
ftp://ftp.peak.org/pub/next/documents/diagram/
Rudy
---
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Michigan State University (NeXTmail, Sun, MIME compatible)
Statistics and Probability http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek
From: "Andre Lalonde" <info@scribex.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
References: <6g0ltd$807$1@gte1.gte.net>
Subject: Re: TaskMaster Manual??
Organization: Scribex Communications
Message-ID: <vE0V.45$CE3.657590@wagner.videotron.net>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 07:58:19 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 02:58:19 EST
If you have TaskMaster's online help installed (see:
TaskMaster.app/English.lproj/Help.store), you can "extract" all Help rtf,
rtfd, txt and image files for printing (or viewing) with HelpViewer.app.
Check out http://www.scribex.com/English/HelpViewer/index.html for more
information.
HelpViewer allows you to do the same with any NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP online help
system.
Hope this helps.
André
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Clint Harris wrote in message <6g0ltd$807$1@gte1.gte.net>...
>Hi,
> Does anyone have a digital copy of the TaskMaster manual from LightHouse
>Design? I know that there is online help but I'm looking for a more
inclusive
>rtf manual. Please let me know if you have one. Thank you.
>
>-Clint
>
>
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Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.amiga.software,comp.sys.amiga.software.pirate,comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.next.software,cu.cs.systems+software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.internet.software,de.comm.software.crosspoint
Subject: Difficult to get Software
Date: 3 Apr 1998 09:52:28 GMT
Organization: PC Software
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: news server
Date: 3 Apr 1998 10:21:14 GMT
Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center
Message-ID: <6g2d6q$i9@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <6g1mgs$19fu$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu>
bobs@phys.washington.edu (Robert Singleton) wrote:
> I'm running NS3.2 on the old black hardware. I'm a bit tired of using
> the news server here, as the powers that be seem to have censored a
> large sector of usenet. Would there be an nntp news server available
> for my machine (preferably in pre-compiled format)? Thanks very much.
Yes. If you want the news to be sucked by your server, look for "PersonalINN"
on the archives, it's precompiled and easy to install. Otherwise, look for
"inn1.4" on the NeXT archives, it's already preconfigured, but still neeeds
some configuration and compilation work.
Bye
Uli
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_____________________________________________________________________
From: zan <zanman@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP Help?
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:16:37 -0500
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <35245494.DEAF7B89@earthlink.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I am having some problems setting up PPP for NeXTStep 3.3 Intel. I have
downloaded NeXTPPP 2.2 and 3.2, however, I have only setup PPP in MacOS,
BeOS and Linux and all of those have a nice neat GUI, all the BSD books
in the book store are to old to have information on PPP. Is there a
nice GUI setup availible? Is OpenStep for Mach an improvement?
Thanks,
Zan
From: spagiola@usa.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did I miss something ? (Re: Rapsody due date)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 08:29:05 -0600
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6g2rnh$qd1$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
References: <6g0lok$9rn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6g12s7$7of@crcnis3.unl.edu>
rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote:
> spagiola@usa.net writes:
> > > > Will NeXTSTEP 3.3 apps run under Rhapsody and/or Sonata?
> > > No. Sad, but true.
> > I've been wondering... how hard would it be to hack a "Black box" for
> > Rhapsody that would allow NeXTSTEP apps to run?
>
> It wouldn't be THAT hard, but:
> 1. The problem is that they'd have a bunch of old "artifact" compatibilty
> files lying around that would clutter up the filesystem. This would is
> useless bloat for most new Rhapsody users.
> 2. remember these apps would run and display with the "old" NeXT
> look-and-feel, which is definitely not MACish enough for Apple. (-;
> 3. It is, I suspect, a low priority to support us small group of "old
> NeXT" users.
Oh, I wasn't thinking about an official Apple effort, but about a possible
hack by some talented NeXTSTEPper, such as the efforts that provided NS2.x
compatibility under NS3.x so that apps like Icon.app would continue to run.
And obviously, this would not be part of the default install; only those
interested would install it. And since only former NeXTSTEPpers would be
likely to install it, the UI wouldn't pose a problem.
Given that active developers like Stone and P&L are making Rhapsody versions
of their apps, it's probably not such a big deal. But there are some NeXTSTEP
apps, notably Improv and Diagram, that at present have no planned equivalent
and that I'd hate to lose.
Stefano Pagiola
My opinions alone
Longtime MacOS and NeXTSTEP user, reluctant Windows 95/NT user, future
Rhapsody user
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From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Attention SuperDraw4 Users!
Date: 3 Apr 1998 17:26:28 GMT
Organization: Customer of EUnet Austria
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From: spagiola@usa.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: open letter to Norbert Heger: LaunchBar and Fiend
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 12:41:29 -0600
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6g0lva$a1r$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
References: <6ftun5$ne3@panix.com>
dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert) wrote:
> Second, I wanted to let you know that I have just released
> souce code to Fiend1.4.1 and a tool called ctxt-util that abstracts
> out a bunch of Fiend's context handling secrets.
> Since I am no longer maintaining Fiend, I'd love to see some
> of its trickier elements survive in a currently maintained app.
David,
first of all, as a long-time user of Fiend, may I say how useful I've found
it. I do hope that someone will take over the effort and provide a similar app
for Rhapsody!
Stefano Pagiola
My opinions alone
Longtime MacOS and NeXTSTEP user, reluctant Windows 95/NT user, future
Rhapsody user
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Reading Windows 95 disks under OPENSTEP
Date: 2 Apr 1998 21:34:02 GMT
Message-ID: <1998040221340201.QAA27875@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
I have OPENSTEP 4.2 on my Cube and have been having difficulty using PC
formatted Zip disks which I've written to under Windows 95--anyone else having
difficulties with this?
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did I miss something ? (Re: Rapsody due date)
Date: 2 Apr 1998 22:18:47 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <6g12s7$7of@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <6g0lok$9rn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <6g0lok$9rn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> spagiola@usa.net writes:
> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote:
> > > Will NeXTSTEP 3.3 apps run under Rhapsody and/or Sonata?
> > No. Sad, but true.
> I've been wondering... how hard would it be to hack a "Black box" for
> Rhapsody that would allow NeXTSTEP apps to run?
It wouldn't be THAT hard, but:
1. The problem is that they'd have a bunch of old "artifact" compatibilty
files lying around that would clutter up the filesystem. This would is
useless bloat for most new Rhapsody users.
2. remember these apps would run and display with the "old" NeXT
look-and-feel, which is definitely not MACish enough for Apple. (-;
3. It is, I suspect, a low priority to support us small group of "old
NeXT" users.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK)
Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Calendar maker
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:35:25 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu
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"Reply-To: "
Is there any calendar making software for NS3.3? I'd like to be able to
make calendars that allow me to easily place recurring events on the
month view of the calendar. I'd also like to be able to store information
on a given day (eg appointments, etc.) that wouldn't show on the month
view, but can be printed separately when that day approaches.
That's probably asking a lot, but here's hoping.
If there's nothing good for NS, does anyone know of a program like this
for Win95? Thanks for any leads.
Robert
From: Charles Swiger <chuck-nospam@blacksmith.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did I miss something ? (Re: Rapsody due date)
Date: 3 Apr 1998 18:45:01 GMT
Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc.
Message-ID: <6g3and$452$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>
References: <schumach-3103982253210001@129.194.16.71> <6ft3k8$nat$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> <6ftcjl$mpm$1@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us> <6fub52$c7j$6@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <6g36vd$4lm$1@gaea.omnigroup.com>
kc@ignem.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) wrote:
> Charles Swiger (chuck-nospam@blacksmith.com) wrote:
>: I wasn't aware that Apple had publicly announced any plans for the
>: Yellow Box for the MacOS?
>
> The May 13, 1997 press release which announced plans for Yellow Box
> for MacOS is placed fairly prominently on Apple's web site.
I check NeXTanswers on a weekly basis for updates, but I have to admit that
checking the rest of Apple's site is at a much lower priority. Guess it
shows.... :-)
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer
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From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Search: application to write RTF or man page files
Date: 30 Mar 1998 12:00:43 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Message-ID: <6fo1hb$mbc$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <Epxo47.Hsv@midway.uchicago.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Cc: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu
In <Epxo47.Hsv@midway.uchicago.edu> Andrew Chang wrote:
> I need to write some technical documents, which are pretty much like
> the unix man pages. Another format is the standard NeXT RTF format
> that you can use colors and reference buttons.
>
If you want to create consistent RTF documents, CedarWord is excellent.
If you're creating documentation for OPENSTEP/Rhapsody, though, I'd stick to
HTML if you can.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
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From: Denise Howard <denisehAT@idiomDOT.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Calendar maker
Date: 3 Apr 1998 08:04:37 GMT
Organization: Remove capital letters to reply
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Robert G. Jacobs <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> wrote:
> Is there any calendar making software for NS3.3? I'd like to be able to
> make calendars that allow me to easily place recurring events on the
> month view of the calendar. I'd also like to be able to store information
> on a given day (eg appointments, etc.) that wouldn't show on the month
> view, but can be printed separately when that day approaches.
> That's probably asking a lot, but here's hoping.
It's not asking a lot for NEXTSTEP! The app you want is PencilMeIn.
There aren't dozens and dozens of choices for a given type of application
under NEXTSTEP, but just about every type you can think of is available.
And nine times out of ten, it works better and nicer than a similar
Windows app. Even this much later.
Denise
(Opener's mom)
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From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mesa 3b2 EOModel browser bug
Date: 2 Apr 1998 15:20:48 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Message-ID: <6g0acg$oqv$4@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <6fti2h$h2c$3@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
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Cc: malcolm@plsys.co.uk
In <6fti2h$h2c$3@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> I wrote:
> I'll try to put a WWW page together to explain how to use this stuff
> in the next few days.
>
OK, it's at:
http://www.plsys.co.uk/products/mesa/databases/
I hope this is useful.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
Malcolm Crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk>
P & L Systems -- developers of Mesa
http://www.plsys.co.uk/plsys/
Tel: +44 1494 432422
Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <19601890542823@digifix.com>
Date: 29 Mar 1998 04:50:50 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <22277891147627@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
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http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mesa 3b2 EOModel browser bug
Date: 1 Apr 1998 14:13:37 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Message-ID: <6fti2h$h2c$3@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
How embarassing -- there's an omission from the EOModel browser in the Query
Inspector in Mesa3b2...
* If you put an EOModel in /LocalLibrary/Models it will be found and show up
in the browser;
* If you drag an app containing an EOModel into the icon well, the EOModel
will be found and included in the browser;
* If you drag an EOModel into the icon well, it *should* show up, but
currently it doesn't. It will in the next release!
Workaround:
If you have an EOModel that you'd like to use but you don't want to write an
app or put it in /LocalLibrary, you can fool Mesa by creating a dummy .app
directory and puting the EOModel in a Resources directory within that, e.g.
Dummy.app/Resources/myEOModel.eomodeld
If you drag Dummy.app into the icon well in the Model Browser, the EOModel
will be found and its entities appear in the browser.
Apologies for this oversight.
I'll try to put a WWW page together to explain how to use this stuff in the
next few days.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
Malcolm Crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk>
P & L Systems -- developers of Mesa
http://www.plsys.co.uk/plsys/
Tel: +44 1494 432422
Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: kc@ignem.omnigroup.com (Ken Case)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did I miss something ? (Re: Rapsody due date)
Date: 3 Apr 1998 17:41:01 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <6g36vd$4lm$1@gaea.omnigroup.com>
References: <schumach-3103982253210001@129.194.16.71> <6ft3k8$nat$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> <6ftcjl$mpm$1@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us> <6fub52$c7j$6@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>
Charles Swiger (chuck-nospam@blacksmith.com) wrote:
: I wasn't aware that Apple had publicly announced any plans for the
: Yellow Box for the MacOS?
The May 13, 1997 press release which announced plans for Yellow Box
for MacOS is placed fairly prominently on Apple's web site.
On http://devworld.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapbkgd.html, Apple's
Rhapsody Background web page, under "Architecture, Roadmap, and
Strategy" (the first section) it says:
_Apple Announces Unified Development Strategy_
Under the new "Yellow Box" API, developers can write one
program and deploy it on five platforms: Rhapsody, Mac OS,
Rhapsody for Intel, Windows 95, and Windows NT. Developers can
also write Yellow Box programs entirely in Java.
This section is a link to a May 13, 1997 press release
(http://product.info.apple.com/pr/press.releases/1997/q3/
970513.pr.rel.yellowbox.html) which says:
Mac OS
Apple intends to host the Yellow Box on a future version of
the Mac OS, code named Allegro. Allegro will be the follow on
release from Mac OS 8, scheduled for introduction in July
1997. Expected to be available in mid-1998, Allegro will be
based on current Mac OS underlying technology and will include
both the traditional MacOS APIs as well as the capability of
hosting the Yellow Box.
So there you have it. I'm certainly looking forward to being able to
release our Yellow Box products for MacOS in addition to Rhapsody and
Windows.
--
Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com
Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: charlescwu@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: fax server or compatible solutions for OpenStep
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 13:08:19 -0600
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6g3c32$dnb$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
I am looking for a list of available fax and fax server (if any) software to
run on OpenStep. If anyone can please share the information with me, I would
really appreciated.
We are currently using NXFax and it's not meeting our new requirements.
Thanks.
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From: "Chase T. Abbott" <chaser@visio.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Best Place to buy NeXTStep 3.3?
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:24:46 -0800
Organization: NorthWest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <6g3r4d$538$1@brokaw.wa.com>
References: <3516c79f.418413546@news.cowboy.net> <6fdn8c$nj6$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
I called enterprise.apple.com and ordered online. I think they are
running out pretty quick of 3.3 for intel though. That's what I bought.
-Chase
chaser@visio.com
Timothy Luoma wrote in message <6fdn8c$nj6$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>...
>In <3516c79f.418413546@news.cowboy.net> Jack Huesman wrote:
>
>> Could anyone tell me where I can buy the NeXTStep 3.3 operating
>> system? I read that it is the best to run on NeXT 'black' hardware.
>
>Short answer: comp.sys.next.marketplace
>
>Longer answer: unless you are going to be compiling stuff quadfat, the only
>real difference on NeXT hardware between 3.2 > 3.3 is the Mail.app (and
maybe
>either Preferences or PrintManager, but whatever the difference was in
those
>it was slight). Mail.app in 3.3 is far superior to 3.2, but if you can get
a
>copy of the Mail.app, it will run on 3.2
>
>I've heard many a folk say that 3.3 ran slower than 3.2 on NeXT hardware.
>
>It would probably be pretty easy to find someone who no longer needs their
>3.2 CD... 3.3 might be a little harder.
>
>TjL
>
>--
>"A picture is worth a thousand words" but personally,
>I think the person who coined that phrase never saw the web.
>
> -- Gary D. Foster
>[do NOT remove the 'nospam' to reply!]
>
From: Timothy Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid-address@luomat.peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: news server
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:56:23 -0500
Organization: @Home Network
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.980403125345.22121B-100000@luomat>
References: <6g1mgs$19fu$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: Robert Singleton <bobs@phys.washington.edu>
In-Reply-To: <6g1mgs$19fu$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu>
On 3 Apr 1998, Robert Singleton wrote:
> I'm running NS3.2 on the old black hardware. I'm a bit tired of using
> the news server here, as the powers that be seem to have censored a
> large sector of usenet. Would there be an nntp news server available
> for my machine (preferably in pre-compiled format)? Thanks very much.
I think the first problem is that you'd have to find out where you could
get a feed from, other than the news server @ Wash... If you can't get the
posts from somewhere else, then your own server wouldn't be much good....
If you *can* get it from somewhere else, you might ask if they can add
your IP to the list of allowable IPs to access their server directly.
(This helps only if you have a set IP, of course).
TjL
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Calendar maker
Date: 4 Apr 1998 18:12:12 GMT
Message-ID: <1998040418121200.NAA14988@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6g256l$ghv$1@news.idiom.com>
Yes, but there's the matter of availability for something like Pencil Me In
which isn't sold any longer, no?
Other alternatives include kfc.app (Kurt's Free Calendar--available from the
Misckit site), Cassandra (also free) and I believe, Chronographer (is this
still being developed--it's shareware?).
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Date: 03 Apr 98 19:04:42 +0100
From: Tommy Alvern <john.aadnoey@rl.telia.no>
Subject: Re: ºô¤W¦³¿úÁÈ ºô¤W¦³¿úÁÈ
References: <01bd360e$b75e6220$a733a1ce@wai> <slrn6e39pd.nqp.smurphy@stargate.phantasia.org>
Message-ID: <582.7397T1144T2149@rl.telia.no>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.software,comp.sys.amiga.software.pirate,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.os.linux.networking,de.comp.os.os2.networking,hk.chinese,it.comp.win95.software,misc.forsale.comput
>On 10 Feb 1998 10:29:41 GMT, DAVIS <kit21048@netvigator.com> wrote:
>>Dear all¡G
>>>®¥³ßµo°]¡I±z¦³¤°»ò·s¦~·s§Æ±æ¶Ü¡H¤¶²Ð±z¤@ÓÁÈ¿ú¦n¤èªk !
>[ ... ]
>*g* Gefaellt mir die Sprache... Wenn man sie nur verstehen wuerde ;)
Ja det er noe dritt ikke sant??? :=)
<tsb>TOMMY ALVERN /A1200 /BLIZZARD 040-40-40FPU /MMU /32MB FAST /SHUTTLE
<tsb>4062 KLEPP ST. /F-SCSI2 /340MB IDE /540MB SCSI-II HD /1000MB SCSI-II HD
<tsb>ANDASTIEN 9 /BIG-TOWER /ACEEX MODEM 33600 /AEGIS SAMPLER /EXTRA DD
<tsb>NORWAY /MICROVITEC 1438 /TEAC 4X4 CD-WRITER /TOCCATA SOUNDCARD
<tsb> *TEAM AMIGA*
From: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CAPer 8:Mac -> NeXT black printing, OK ?
Date: 4 Apr 1998 02:33:40 GMT
Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK
Message-ID: <6g4664$45l@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk>
Xcanpos: shelf.1/199804180601!0021385065
I have a NeXT black with the blackjet (NeXT laser printer). The NeXT is
connected to Mac through Ethernet. With CAPer, can I print from Mac to
NeXT laser printer ?
Thanks in advance.
SK
From: "feg" <feg.pi@nospammflashnet.it>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.software,comp.sys.amiga.software.pirate,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.os.linux.networking,de.comp.os.os2.networking,hk.chinese,it.comp.win95.software,misc.forsale.comput
Subject: Re: ºô¤W¦³¿úÁÈ ºô¤W¦³¿úÁÈ
Date: 4 Apr 1998 16:45:54 GMT
Organization: Customer of Flashnet S.p.A. - http://www.flashnet.it
Message-ID: <01bd5fe7$b51e7c40$LocalHost@feg.pi>
References: <01bd360e$b75e6220$a733a1ce@wai> <slrn6e39pd.nqp.smurphy@stargate.phantasia.org> <582.7397T1144T2149@rl.telia.no>
La seconda che hai detto.
ciao !!!!!!!!!!!!
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CAPer 8:Mac -> NeXT black printing, OK ?
Date: 4 Apr 1998 12:52:34 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
Message-ID: <6g5aei$lvh$1@news.seicom.net>
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Cc: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk
In <6g4664$45l@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> Wong Sai-kee wrote:
> I have a NeXT black with the blackjet (NeXT laser printer). The NeXT is
> connected to Mac through Ethernet. With CAPer, can I print from Mac to
> NeXT laser printer ?
Usually.... yes.
--
* Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank
* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
* "I have to go now, there are two men in white suits with a giant
* butterfly net at my door..."
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: schnews@crow.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: EnhanceMail Binary?
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 03:43:27 -0700
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <schnews-0504980343270001@owl.uoregon.edu>
[)%i~h?)D!-%[A17<5rtTts~/!y;KxLNnQ=.VVZxFUssdm7sx^(*b0kpnbbC+YZMrVkH
aB6DW[jU}@`M
Anyone have a binary of the EnhanceMail 2.1 bundle for NS 3.3 black? I
couldn't find it at all on Peak (TjL has a link to an earlier version from
his page, but that whole directory seems to be done now) and the one on
Peanuts is source only...
I'd really appreciate it if someone could help me get a copy!
Sean
--
Sean Harding, sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sharding/
From: schnews@crow.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EnhanceMail Binary?
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 03:48:43 -0700
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <schnews-0504980348430001@owl.uoregon.edu>
References: <schnews-0504980343270001@owl.uoregon.edu>
[)%i~h?)D!-%[A17<5rtTts~/!y;KxLNnQ=.VVZxFUssdm7sx^(*b0kpnbbC+YZMrVkH
aB6DW[jU}@`M
Duh! Nevermind...I had a corrupt tar file that was truncated; that's why I
wasn't getting the package portion...
Sean
--
Sean Harding, sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sharding/
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <22277891147627@digifix.com>
Date: 5 Apr 1998 04:50:32 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <25462891752418@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: jes@rednsi.com (Josep Egea i Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXHosting to Windows NT and Foreign Keyboards
Date: 3 Apr 1998 10:26:21 GMT
Organization: Unisource Espana NEWS SERVER
Message-ID: <6g2dgd$q0e$1@diana.bcn.ibernet.es>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,
Though NXHosting from a NS/OS host to a Windows NT machine is great (really
great!), we've found problems when using international keyboards in the
Windows side. Remote applications use the default american layout so most of
the graphical symbols are misplaced and typing foreign characters is quite
difficult. OTOH, Windows apps use the correct map, as also do OpenStep apps
running locally.
Has anybody else found this problem? I would really appreciate any help.
Thanks in advance. Best regards.
--
Josep Egea - jes@rednsi.com - NeXTMail & MIME OK
NEXUS Servicios de Informacion - Barcelona (Spain)
Telf: + 34 3 285 00 70 - Fax: + 34 3 284 31 43
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: bdc@world.std.com (Brian "JARAI" Chase)
Subject: Q: Old NeXTSTEP Webster dictionary server?
Message-ID: <EqyIyn.C6y@world.std.com>
Organization: HappyNet Bungalow
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:15:59 GMT
Many moons ago, before the days of the World Wide Web, I seem to recall
there being a Webster Dictionary server hosted on a university's NeXT
machine. There was client source for a variety of Unix flavors which
allowed you to perform word lookups from the Webster server. I believe
the Webster people were unhappy with this and the university providing the
lookup services had to shut down the server.
I used to have the client somewhere in my pile of saved old software but I
can no longer seem to locate it. Does anyone here remember what I'm
talking about and know where I can find the client and server components?
-jarai.
--
---
Brian "JARAI" Chase | http://world.std.com/~bdc/ | VAXZilla LIVES!!!
From: "Noel Ambroise SPINEC" <noel.spinec@eds.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Reading Windows 95 disks under OPENSTEP
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:34:13 +0200
Organization: EDS CIS
Message-ID: <6g2ru6$sm1$1@news.ses.cio.eds.com>
References: <1998040221340201.QAA27875@ladder03.news.aol.com>
use vmount to mount the disk, you will access the long files names on the
disk. I have a patched version of vmount including support for FAT32
partitions.
WillAdams wrote in message
<1998040221340201.QAA27875@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>I have OPENSTEP 4.2 on my Cube and have been having difficulty using PC
>formatted Zip disks which I've written to under Windows 95--anyone else
having
>difficulties with this?
From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting to Windows NT and Foreign Keyboards
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 6 Apr 1998 02:48:44 GMT
Organization: CSUnet
Message-ID: <6g9fqc$38g$2@hades.csu.net>
References: <6g2dgd$q0e$1@diana.bcn.ibernet.es>
It would be _really_ nice if you could NSHost from a Win95 machine to
Rhapsody, since then you could have a vehicle for displaying Japanese
on standard Win95/8.
Is there a way of currently doing this?
Thomas
Josep Egea i Sanchez (jes@rednsi.com) wrote:
: Hi,
: Though NXHosting from a NS/OS host to a Windows NT machine is great (really
: great!), we've found problems when using international keyboards in the
: Windows side. Remote applications use the default american layout so most of
: the graphical symbols are misplaced and typing foreign characters is quite
: difficult. OTOH, Windows apps use the correct map, as also do OpenStep apps
: running locally.
: Has anybody else found this problem? I would really appreciate any help.
: Thanks in advance. Best regards.
: --
: Josep Egea - jes@rednsi.com - NeXTMail & MIME OK
: NEXUS Servicios de Informacion - Barcelona (Spain)
: Telf: + 34 3 285 00 70 - Fax: + 34 3 284 31 43
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Q: Old NeXTSTEP Webster dictionary server?
Message-ID: <891809841.724463@globe.uwaterloo.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <EqyIyn.C6y@world.std.com>
Cache-Post-Path: globe.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:58:43 GMT
In article <EqyIyn.C6y@world.std.com>,
Brian "JARAI" Chase <bdc@world.std.com> wrote:
>Many moons ago, before the days of the World Wide Web, I seem to recall
>there being a Webster Dictionary server hosted on a university's NeXT
>machine. There was client source for a variety of Unix flavors which
>allowed you to perform word lookups from the Webster server.
What, you mean like this:
wick:/home/dfevans> webster confabulate
con-fab-u-late \ken-'fab-ye-,la^-t\ vi -lat-ed; -lat-ing
[L confabulatus, pp. of confabulari, fr. com- + fabulari to talk,
fr. fabula story -- more at FABLE]
...
It's somewhere on Peak for you to set up on your own NeXTSTEP boxes.
I think that it was actually born here at Waterloo; Steve Haymann wrote it
IIRC.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: mike@t-e-l-a.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to compile gnu tar-1.12
Date: 6 Apr 1998 03:27:13 GMT
Organization: Telepool/Tela Internet Services
Message-ID: <6g9i2h$7ta@wolf.tela.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,
I am getting the following error when trying to compile gnu tar-1.12 on
NS3.3:
buffer.c: In function `close_archive':
buffer.c:1416: warning: passing arg 1 of `wait' from incompatible pointer
type
buffer.c:1421: request for member `w_S' in something not a structure or union
buffer.c:1421: request for member `w_T' in something not a structure or union
buffer.c: In function `new_volume':
buffer.c:1634: warning: passing arg 1 of `wait' from incompatible pointer
type
Does anyone have a patch or working makefile?
Thanks
--
Mike Selner
mike@t-e-l-a.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: It is true !!
Date: 6 Apr 1998 03:51:53 GMT
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From: "Andre Lalonde" <info@scribex.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <Epxo47.Hsv@midway.uchicago.edu> <6fo1hb$mbc$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Search: application to write RTF or man page files
Organization: Scribex Communications
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Message-ID: <dUSV.14$a4.190145@wagner.videotron.net>
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 21:41:29 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 17:41:29 EST
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mmalcolm crawford wrote in message
<6fo1hb$mbc$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>...
>In <Epxo47.Hsv@midway.uchicago.edu> Andrew Chang wrote:
>> I need to write some technical documents, which are pretty much
like
>> the unix man pages. Another format is the standard NeXT RTF format
>> that you can use colors and reference buttons.
>>
>If you want to create consistent RTF documents, CedarWord is
excellent.
>
>If you're creating documentation for OPENSTEP/Rhapsody, though, I'd
stick to
>HTML if you can.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>mmalc.
>
Subject: Re: "must haves" for NS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <352ABEDC.E36DA8DC@macconnect.com>
In-Reply-To: <352ABEDC.E36DA8DC@macconnect.com>
From: not@my.address.net
Message-ID: <pVKW.221$ME2.1033518@news.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 13:25:41 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:25:41 EST
On 04/07/98, Jeffrey Parnaby wrote:
>I am a NS novice; just bought a color turbo. Can anyone recommend some
>must have software? I'm particularly interested in word processing,
>spreadsheet, and graphics.
>
>Links or other leads on how to acquire the suggested apps would also be
>appreciated.
>
John Keit has given you a good start. But here's a few more suggestions
...
Dataphile (database app) and Create (illustration software) for NeXTSTEP
are, I think, still sold by Stone Design at www.stone.com and while I have
no first hand experience they have both drawn rave reviews for many years.
PencilMeIn is a very nice calendar program, especially if you can track
down v. 2. It also has a *very nice* API that makes extensive use of
Objective-C protocols and it might be fun to play with if you've got the
developer CD. Sarrus has been absorbed by Sun and won't sell you the
software anymore, but you can pick up a demo, I think, on the archives, and
you might find someone on the net who will sell you a licence string.
SBook is the accompanying contact management software and is simple and
useful.
Lotus Improv (spreadsheet) is unsupported but still very cool. I use it
every day. You'd have to find someone willing to sell a copy, but if you
could get all the disks and hardcopy docs it would be a smart purchase.
If you work with TeX or LaTeX, you might want to pick up a copy of Tailor,
a visual postscript editor. I think Tailor is still sold through Blackhole
in North America. It's overpriced for black hardware and will probably be
available at lower cost on the Mac. But again, there are demos on the
archives and you might find someone to sell you a license string.
For TeX freeware, don't pass go without a copy of Bibliography.app on the
archives. InstantTeX is also mighty cool. Other essential freeware would
include ImageViewer, DefaultsInspector.bundle, and Opener.
If you want to play with super cool software that isn't for sale, check out
demos for Pages and WatchMe, again both are on the archives.
Good luck.
--
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insert: shift "2"
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Apple Hardware/Software video questions
Date: 7 Apr 1998 19:17:30 GMT
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis
Message-ID: <6gdu4a$341$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>
We would like to purchase Mac hardware/software for simple editing of
videos, and using them for classroom presentations, both on videotape
and as quicktime segments. We presently plan to get the 266MHz G3 tower
package that comes with the Apple A/V "personality" card. I haven't
noticed the information I need going through the groups that I monitor,
so I'd like to ask a few questions:
1) Is the Apple A/V card a reasonable choice for doing the above. I have
heard that the card only does 320x240 resolution which, I am told, is
equivalent to that of NTSC television broadcast. This would be a small
size when viewed on a screen for example. When you blow it up (I assume
you can -- is this a memory question?) does it look pretty grainy? How
does it look when put back on videotape? What other options might one
have for presenting in class what the card can produce? (Video
projecture needed?)
2) How much memory do you need to reasonably work with the card?
3) What software is to be recommended? We don't need elaborate software
(since the work is educational, not commercial) but just something that
is solid and has reasonable editing features.
4) We would eventually like to move to Rhapsody. Is there software in
the works for that? I.e. any ports from the Mac side or from the Next side
announced?
Thanks for your help.
Don Petcher
From: spagiola@usa.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "must haves" for NS
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:41:26 -0600
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6gg2an$1vm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
References: <352ABEDC.E36DA8DC@macconnect.com> <352b5eba.0@206.25.228.5>
> > I am a NS novice; just bought a color turbo. Can anyone recommend
> > some must have software? I'm particularly interested in word
> > processing, spreadsheet, and graphics.
>
> The Lighthouse apps on ftp.peak.org. They kick butt. If you want
> to fax. NXFax. The only wordprocessor that is likely to get any
> support is WriteUp by AFS. OmniWeb for web. RBrowser for ftp.
> PopOver to bring in mail. Mailbundles for Mail.app or the new
> PopOver2.0 mail app. The best supported news app is RadicalNews(but
> I think it has a gad awful UI). I use Alaxandra for news, but it's
> long in the tooth. That shoul get you started. If you need a
> supported spreadsheet, Mesa3. If you need a photoshop type app,
> get Tiffany3. The Lighthouse apps are free, and cover the basic
> needs, but they wont be around for Rhapsody/OPENSTEP in the future.
And let's not forget those great apps from the folks at Stone Design,
including DataPhile (flatfile database) and Create (drawing app). See
http://www.stone.com/
Stefano Pagiola
My opinions alone
Longtime MacOS and NeXTSTEP user, reluctant Windows 95/NT user, future
Rhapsody user
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "must haves" for NS
Date: 8 Apr 1998 15:55:44 GMT
Message-ID: <1998040815554400.LAA05723@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <pVKW.221$ME2.1033518@news.itd.umich.edu>
Also look for PixelNHance.app, which is freeware and nice for adjusting images
slightly.
There are lots of small niceties, a font inspector/previewer for example, also
RZ2DoList available from Running Start, also PageChain which is now freely
licensed.
Newton.app from www.ace.net if you have a Newton
Lots of nifty stuff at Frank Siegert's Area 51, www.this.net/~frank, especially
his pStill.app which is a PDF converter.
PDFView.app and the other PDF viewing programs
If you've a real need to do otherwise impossible DTP stuff, OneVision of
course, though for basic work there's AFS's PasteUp.
SeleSort.app which is a sorting service--anyone have a current address for the
author? I've some spare cash and would like to pay up.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: pb141@columbia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "must haves" for NS
Date: 8 Apr 1998 17:53:48 GMT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Message-ID: <6ggdjc$36t$1@news7.ispnews.com>
References: <352ABEDC.E36DA8DC@macconnect.com>
In-Reply-To: <352ABEDC.E36DA8DC@macconnect.com>
On 04/07/98, Jeffrey Parnaby wrote:
>I am a NS novice; just bought a color turbo. Can anyone recommend some
>must have software? I'm particularly interested in word processing,
>spreadsheet, and graphics.
>
>Links or other leads on how to acquire the suggested apps would also be
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
I might as well throw away my NeXT if I didn't have (ie. use daily)
Dataphile
Improv / PresentationBuilder
GateKeeper & PPP
PopOver & recent sendmail
EnhanceMail
OmniWeb
NewsFlash (vapor ware now, but any newsreader would do)
OlafAM
TickleServices
LaunchBar (plus/minus Fiend)
Stuart
FrameMaker (CedarWord is about as complete but it's soo big!)
EquationBuilder & SciPlot (get less use since the thesis is done)
But let's not forget all those very handy tools (for my rare image and file
manipulation needs, ie use occasionally)
Backspace
WetPaint & Create
OmniPDF
ImageViewer & FastView
GifOmatic
Tailor
Draw
Opener
Rosetta
OpenSesame
PageChain
FileMerge
DefaultsInspector.bundle
ArchiveInspector.bundle
Along with the the critical essentials in NextApps.
From: antoine_RemoveThisFromAdress_@arrakis.RemoveThisFromAdress.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Signature app?
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Message-ID: <Yp6W.2677$QI6.1093366@carnaval.risq.qc.ca>
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 15:21:28 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:21:28 EST
Greetings,
I was wondering if there exists an app or service that allows one to use
several .signatures with mail.app. Something like 3-4 different ones, for
perso/business/ascii/mime messages.
Thanks !
---- Antoine Gautier
From: pb141@columbia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CedarWord (was re: "must haves" for NS)
Date: 9 Apr 1998 00:22:20 GMT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Message-ID: <6gh4bs$nbc$1@news7.ispnews.com>
References: <1998040821400200.RAA24686@ladder01.news.aol.com>
In-Reply-To: <1998040821400200.RAA24686@ladder01.news.aol.com>
On 04/08/98, WillAdams wrote:
>In the previous thread, CedarWord was compared to FrameMaker.
>
>WOW.
>
>...William
>
>
I must appologize, I looked at the wrong icon. I meant OpenWrite is
comparable in function (and lets me translate docs from the PC world at
work). I still use FM for most things and mostly because it's what I know.
From: jes@rednsi.com (Josep Egea i Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting to Windows NT and Foreign Keyboards
Date: 6 Apr 1998 08:54:13 GMT
Organization: Unisource Espana NEWS SERVER
Message-ID: <6ga57l$cu3$1@diana.bcn.ibernet.es>
References: <6g2dgd$q0e$1@diana.bcn.ibernet.es> <6g9fqc$38g$2@hades.csu.net>
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Cc: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu
In <6g9fqc$38g$2@hades.csu.net> Thomas Poff wrote:
> It would be _really_ nice if you could NSHost from a Win95 machine to
> Rhapsody, since then you could have a vehicle for displaying Japanese
> on standard Win95/8.
>
> Is there a way of currently doing this?
>
> Thomas
My current experience only includes Windows NT, though it may work with
Windows 95 too. However, don't expect too much in the side of fonts. AFAIK,
the local (Windows) fonts are used.
Best regards
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Telf: + 34 3 285 00 70 - Fax: + 34 3 284 31 43
> Josep Egea i Sanchez (jes@rednsi.com) wrote:
> : Hi,
>
> : Though NXHosting from a NS/OS host to a Windows NT machine is great
(really
> : great!), we've found problems when using international keyboards in the
> : Windows side. Remote applications use the default american layout so most
of
> : the graphical symbols are misplaced and typing foreign characters is
quite
> : difficult. OTOH, Windows apps use the correct map, as also do OpenStep
apps
> : running locally.
From: *@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "must haves" for NS
Date: 9 Apr 1998 02:55:57 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <6ghdbt$7ur$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
References: <pVKW.221$ME2.1033518@news.itd.umich.edu> <1998040815554400.LAA05723@ladder01.news.aol.com>
<6ghb4v$fkv@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com>
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I'm putting together a web page based on the suggestions I've seen here (and
a few of my own)
http://www.peak.org/~luomat/apps/
(Note: my whole web page is undergoing reconstructive surgery.)
TjL
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From: asc@uclink.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Upload: Prog to use NXFax via SAMBA from Win95/NT apps
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 03:19:02 -0700
Organization: Freeman Vision Lab
Message-ID: <352B4F16.C3766B44@uclink.berkeley.edu>
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nxsmbfax.c [version 1.2] -- README
This is a "print command" program for SAMBA for sending
faxes from Windows applications through a faxmodem attached to a NeXT.
Source+NeXT/Intel fat binary
Requires working fax system such as NXFax on NS/OS.
http://www.peak.org/next/apps/utils/networks/samba-nxfax.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz
http://www.peak.org/next/apps/utils/networks/samba-nxfax.1.2.README
Briefly, from any Windows app., you just print to "Fax" printer,
this program makes a call-back to a freeware pop-up panel application
(respond.exe) running on Windows, and collects info needed for
faxing (e.g., fax number, fax receiver's name, etc.). It then
inserts this information into the PS file, and exec's lpr to queue
the job for faxing. You can delay fax transmissions by
specifying a number of hours to delay. This is not as flexible as
exact time specification allowd by the NeXT Fax panel, but should do
fine for most.
SETUP
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
*** On Windows side:
Get RESPOND.EXE (freeware) from:
http://www.boerde.de/~horstf/ or http://relay.boerde.de:82/~horstf/
Auto start RESPOND.EXE via STARTUP folder on Windows95/NT.
Configure RESPOND by a companion app CONFIGURE.EXE.
In particular do this:
Enable delayed transmission field as text area.
Relabel this field as "Number of hours to delay", because
with nxsmbfax, delay is specified by the number of hours (integer)
from now to call time.
After SAMBA is running, setup \\server\Fax as Apple LaserWriter NTX
(or if you have NeXT 400dpi Laser printer PPD file, as that).
Do NOT choose a HP or PCL compatible printers, as they generate PJL
junk prepended to real PS code.
*** On NS/OS side:
cp nxsmbfax /usr/local/bin
mkdir /usr/local/lib/fax
Edit default.coverinfo.
cp default.coverinfo /usr/local/lib/fax
(Additionally, create your own Fax cover info file as:
youruserid.coverinfo [lower case] in the same directory.)
Setup SAMBA (smb.conf) with lines like:
--
; Add to your smb.conf
; %I: IP address
; %s: The name of the faxfile with path
; %U: The samba session setup user
; %m: The NetBIOS hostname
[Fax]
comment = Fax Modem faxmodem_fax
postscript = yes
print command = ( /usr/local/bin/nxsmbfax %I %s faxmodem_fax ) &
printable = yes
writable = no
path = /tmp
---
where faxmodem_fax is the actual name of the fax modem in your system
(as passed to lpr via -P option).
### BUGS/FEATURES:
1. DSC comments are not quite legal, but works with NeXT Fax system.
In particular %%Pages: 100 has a bogus large value which seems OK.
%%Page: ? nn comments are not also correct (confuses Preview.app).
2. Stripping PJL junk for HP PCL printers is not in. It does strip ^D chars.
3. Does not use the standard fax cover page from Draw.app.
From: lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: location header missing on redirect
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:45:12 -0600
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6gb0r1$kfi$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hi,
I used to be able to access the URL
http://ojps.aip.org/journals/doc/PRLTAO-home/top.html
Now I get the error "http://ojps.aip.org/journals/doc/PRLTAO-home/top.html
Location header missing on redirect"
I'm running Omniweb 2.7b3 on an '040 Cube.
Can anyone tell me what to do to fix this?
Thanks in advance!
-Sean La Shell
P.S. I should add that access to this page requires that our library include
my IP number in the list of numbers it submits to the people who run this
server. Since it used to work, I assume my IP number should still be OK.
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From: istephen@bournemouth.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SANE - scanner software
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 13:02:15 -0600
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6gb5b7$qk4$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
I've just uploaded a simple OpenStep front end for SANE to my
website if anyone is interested.
(http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/9199/). It's basic
but functional, and should work with practically any scanner.
I've only been able to build this for black hardware - if
anyone has managed to build the SANE shared libraries FAT?
However it does require that you install the SANE backend
software. Is anyone working on the OpenStep version of this -
I just about got 0.71 to work (I had problems with local
scanners, but the net scanner works fine). It's a total bitch
to install, but it would be REALLY nice to get a standard
install package developed.
$an
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From: Charles Swiger <chuck-nospam@blacksmith.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newbie question
Date: 6 Apr 1998 18:30:35 GMT
Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc.
Message-ID: <6gb70b$kc8$9@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>
References: <ggbU.4865$lJ5.1320189@news.internetMCI.com>
"Avery Glasser" <Avery.Glasser@mci.com> wrote:
> I know that NextStep 3.3 can run all NextStep and POSIX 1.0
> applications. Can it also compile BSD 4.4?
POSIX 1003.1 support is available and somewhat useful, but it's also somewhat
buggy. The worst problem is the POSIX file routines overwrite (with 0x0's)
files when appending to them. However, I believe there is a company who has
fixed these bugs and provides working POSIX support for NS 3.3 and OS 4.x.
Check c.s.n.announce....
NS 3.3 doesn't come with the BSD 4.4 specific headers. However, a lot of
software will build under it with a little tweaking. If you have problems
building a specific program, ask.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+----------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: Charles Swiger <chuck-nospam@blacksmith.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newest
Date: 6 Apr 1998 18:35:13 GMT
Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc.
Message-ID: <6gb791$kc8$10@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>
References: <6fbrkh$627$1@news.mty.itesm.mx>
al601027@academ03.mty.itesm.mx (Beatriz E. Duran Castaneda) wrote:
> Which is the newest version of NextStep???
The last NEXTSTEP release was 3.3, although OPENSTEP 4.2 is almost completely
upwards compatible.
> Which is the UNIX system the NextStep is based on?
It uses NeXT's version of the Mach 2.5 kernel with functionality between the
"official" CMU Mach Project releases 2.0 and 2.5. On top of that is a stock
BSD 4.3 API layer.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+----------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CedarWord (was re: "must haves" for NS)
Date: 9 Apr 1998 13:15:02 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6gihkm$rne$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6gh4bs$nbc$1@news7.ispnews.com> <1998040902433001.WAA19314@ladder01.news.aol.com>
willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) wrote:
>Ah, I see. Ah well, back to Knuth's TeXBook ::sigh::
Will,
not a good choice to learn TeX, IMHO.. I think you should get
a good LaTeX book (_not_ the one by Lamport, it's an excellent
reference, but not good for learning).
TeX can be painfull, LaTeX is what you really want.
BTW, I've heard that a LyX port (WYSIWYG LaTeX editing) is
on the way for OPENSTEP.
Best regards, Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "must haves" for NS
References: <352ABEDC.E36DA8DC@macconnect.com>
From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com>
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <352b5eba.0@206.25.228.5>
Date: 8 Apr 98 11:25:46 GMT
Jeffrey Parnaby <parnaby@macconnect.com> wrote:
> I am a NS novice; just bought a color turbo. Can anyone recommend
> some must have software? I'm particularly interested in word
> processing, spreadsheet, and graphics.
> Links or other leads on how to acquire the suggested apps would
> also be appreciated.
The Lighthouse apps on ftp.peak.org. They kick butt. If you want
to fax. NXFax. The only wordprocessor that is likely to get any
support is WriteUp by AFS. OmniWeb for web. RBrowser for ftp.
PopOver to bring in mail. Mailbundles for Mail.app or the new
PopOver2.0 mail app. The best supported news app is RadicalNews(but
I think it has a gad awful UI). I use Alaxandra for news, but it's
long in the tooth. That shoul get you started. If you need a
supported spreadsheet, Mesa3. If you need a photoshop type app,
get Tiffany3. The Lighthouse apps are free, and cover the basic
needs, but they wont be around for Rhapsody/OPENSTEP in the future.
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; self expressed...
__________________________________________________________________
monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK
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From: "Keith Wood" <keith@cognisense.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Netscape on NeXTSTEP
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:28:23 -0500
Organization: OnRamp, http://www.onramp.net/
Message-ID: <6gj7go$3r6$1@news.onramp.net>
Has anyone tried to get Netscape's UNIX version to work under NeXTSTEP?
I've got black hardware (color station) and NS 3.0...
Please email me at keith@cognisense.com.
Thanks for any help you can provide...
Keith
Cognisense
keith@cognisense.com
From: tyf@veenet.value.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Porting Netscape to NS with X win?
Date: 9 Apr 1998 14:02:36 -0700
Organization: Value Net Internetwork Services
Message-ID: <6gjd1c$c92@veenet.value.net>
Hi,
I am just wondering, how possible is it to take the source
code from mozilla.org and re-compile it on NeXTSTEP running an
X window client? Has anyone even though of doing that?
Just curious.
From: Wesley Horner <wesman@azrael.uoregon.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Porting Netscape to NS with X win?
Date: 9 Apr 1998 21:05:47 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene
Message-ID: <6gjd7b$6eb$2@pith.uoregon.edu>
References: <6gjd1c$c92@veenet.value.net>
tyf@veenet.value.net wrote:
> Hi,
> I am just wondering, how possible is it to take the source
> code from mozilla.org and re-compile it on NeXTSTEP running an
> X window client? Has anyone even though of doing that?
I wondered the same thing. I heard they got the back end to compile on
rhapsody but the front end is where you will run into trouble. You will have
to have lesstif for starters (works better with motif) and have gcc with c++
installed as well. By the way does anybody know ehre I can find gcc for 4.2
on black hardware? I can only find it for intel and 3.3 for mot.
wes
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From: beigel@rbo.eecs.lehigh.edu (Richard Beigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: "find" in Improv
Date: 9 Apr 1998 21:19:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University, Dept. of EE&CS, Bethlehem, PA 18015-3084
Message-ID: <6gje1q$287i@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
Does Improv have a "find" feature? It would be really nice to search a
spreadsheet for entries containing specific words.
Subject: Re: "find" in Improv
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <6gje1q$287i@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <6gje1q$287i@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
From: not@my.address.net
Message-ID: <M8cX.464$ME2.2249813@news.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:41:48 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:41:48 EST
On 04/09/98, Richard Beigel wrote:
>Does Improv have a "find" feature? It would be really nice to search a
>spreadsheet for entries containing specific words.
>
No it doesn't. No undo or scripting either ...
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Rhapsody Computer Telephony S/W H/W?
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:28:25 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University
Message-ID: <352DADF8.22A3D71A@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <352CFBB1.AB56B3C6@amind.com>
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To: weeleng@amind.com
Koo wrote:
> I am searching for Rhapsody/Yellow Box Computer Telephony software,
> hardware.
> Any pointer?
Check out http://enterprise.apple.com/Alliances/Partners/SPListings.html
There are a couple possibilities there for related solutions...
Eric
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From: awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Andy Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anybody compile PGP 5.0?
Date: 10 Apr 1998 01:20:38 -0500
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
Message-ID: <6gkdnm$ajf@plains.NoDak.edu>
has anyone compiled PGP 5.0?
there's a patch in NXPGP 5.0 for the beta version, but that patch
also includes some other stuff and i'm not sure what ends where (port
vs. hacks).
if anyone has gotten pgp 5.0 compiled, care to upload a patch somewhere?
thanks
andy
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From: Kristofer Jon Magnusson <kris@xmission.xmission.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXBench
Date: 10 Apr 1998 01:01:34 -0600
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <6gkg4e$fns$1@xmission.xmission.com>
References: <Er6n57.6AD@world.std.com>
Monty C. Brandenberg <mcbinc@world.std.com.MAPS> wrote:
: Anyone have a pointer to a good binary or source for NXBench? The version
: on peak is missing a .nib, and maybe a few other things, and doesn't run
: so well...
Don and I have an OPENSTEPified NWBench. It doesn't test DPS, but it does
cough up MIPS and Dhrystones, as well as memory bitblts, disk subsystem
performance, etc. There is always the old version on Peak and Peanuts.
............kris
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From: Szitya <szitya@szitya.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTStep for x86: is it available?
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:31:45 +0200
Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA
Message-ID: <352DCAE1.7474246A@hu.oracle.com>
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Is NS available for x86 (Pentium)? What's NS state now? Is it free
already or still commercial product?
Thanks,
Szitya
From: Timothy J Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid-address@luomat.peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "must haves" for NS
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:07:24 -0400
Organization: @Home Network
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.980408140616.27239C-100000@luomat>
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So far I haven't seen anyone mention Opener.app :-)
Keep the lists coming.... I see a web page in the making :-)
TjL, who actually had started a page about this at one point but never
followed up on it...
From: Denise Howard <denisehAT@idiomDOT.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "must haves" for NS
Date: 8 Apr 1998 21:12:35 GMT
Organization: Remove capital letters to reply
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Timothy J Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid-address@luomat.peak.org> wrote:
> So far I haven't seen anyone mention Opener.app :-)
That's because they knew you would, Tim! :-)
And I'm too modest to mention it myself. :-) :-)
Denise
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CedarWord (was re: "must haves" for NS)
Date: 8 Apr 1998 21:40:02 GMT
Message-ID: <1998040821400200.RAA24686@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
In the previous thread, CedarWord was compared to FrameMaker.
WOW.
I've been considering getting it, mostly because it uses the hyphenation and
justification algorithm as TeX, but had held off because I don't really need
another WP (have WriteNow, WordPerfect and OpenWrite) and have been trying to
learn TeX.
Is CedarWord suitable for DTP/page layout?
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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From: Pierre-Michel Tremblay <tremblay_michel@videotron.ca>
Organization: Siebel Systems, Inc.
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Subject: Looking for a DHCP-client for my NS 3.3 FIP
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Bonjour,
I'm using my Cable-modem to connect to my ISP. I know there exist a
DHCP-client for NS 3.3 FIP somewhere but I've lost trace of the email
containing that info. Could anyone help me with a product I could use?
Please copy your answer to my email address.
Many thanks.
Pierre-Michel Tremblay
Sales Consultant/Conseiller technique
Siebel Systems Canada, Ltd
1405, route Trans-Canada, bur. 200
Dorval, Québec
H9P 2V9
Tel.: 514/992-2382
Fax: 514/994-4384
tremblay_michel@videotron.ca
http://www.siebel.com
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From: tom@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (Tom Hageman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Signature app?
Date: 8 Apr 1998 23:07:27 GMT
Organization: Warty Wolfs
Sender: news@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (NEWS pusher)
Message-ID: <Er49IL.Ax1@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl>
References: <Yp6W.2677$QI6.1093366@carnaval.risq.qc.ca>
antoine_RemoveThisFromAdress_@arrakis.RemoveThisFromAdress.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine
Gautier) wrote:
> I was wondering if there exists an app or service that allows one to use
> several .signatures with mail.app. Something like 3-4 different ones, for
> perso/business/ascii/mime messages.
Maybe this helps?
\begin{plug}
EnhanceMail will try to read your signature from the .signature
file. It looks for that file first in the current mailbox and then
in your home directory. This allows you to override your default
signature with one specific to the topics in a particular mailbox.
If you send NeXTmail or Mime mail, EnhanceMail will first try to
use rich signatures from the .signature.rtfd and .signature.rtf
files in the same directories. If you change the base name for
your signature file to e.g. foo, EnhanceMail will look in the
same directories for the files foo, foo.rtfd and foo.rtf respectively.
EnhanceMail.bundle works with Mail.app 3.3 and 4.x. You can find it at:
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.1.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
Additional language add-on packages (French, German) are available
at the same location.
\end{plug}
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__/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
From: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "must haves" for NS
Date: 8 Apr 1998 23:06:18 GMT
Organization: IDT
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Folks....
Let not forget CubX, if you want x-windows support--commerical. XNext, which
is reasonable cheaper.
Solidthinking for advance 3-d rendering.
The NeXT-software continues.....I am sure there are others who would like to
join in on the fun. So, I'll stop here.
Note: All software listed above is still available for purchase.
From: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CedarWord (was re: "must haves" for NS)
Date: 8 Apr 1998 23:17:53 GMT
Organization: IDT
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Cc: willadams@aol.com
> WOW.
>
> I've been considering getting it, mostly because it uses the hyphenation
and
> justification algorithm as TeX, but had held off because I don't really
need
> another WP (have WriteNow, WordPerfect and OpenWrite) and have been trying
to
> learn TeX.
>
> Is CedarWord suitable for DTP/page layout?
>
> William
> William Adams
> http://members.aol.com/willadams
> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
>
Will,
Cedarword is a great little program. It more like edit.app/Wordperfect. And
in reference to framemaker, framemaker is alot better if you want to include
stuff like tables. If you need a app to write papers or letters, this
simple and powerful app is for you. Cedarword is a great app and is going to
ported over to Rhapsody with new support like tables, currently it does not
have tables support. Well, that the word on the street anyway. Plus, a big
plus, it not that expensive compared to other NeXT software., it only costs
about $50 bucks. I don't miss using Word or wordperfect, after I purchased
Cedarword. DTP/page layout, no such support. Give it a test run, demos are
available on all the major NeXT ftp sites. It is the best wordprocessor
in our NeXT world, in my opinion. Importing (word/wordperfect) and exporting
files are not supported yet, but they will be, hopefully on the next
release. It does however support NeXT RTF, which is great.
Jay Lee
echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
From: *@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Looking for a DHCP-client for my NS 3.3 FIP
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 8 Apr 1998 23:34:51 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <6gh1ir$7ur$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Try David Young <dwy@ace.net>
TjL
ps -- vcards are yucky
--
[Yes that is a valid mail address, and much easier to type]
From: michael@videoknowledge.org (MichaelVideo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Apple Hardware/Software video questions
Date: 10 Apr 1998 09:16:12 GMT
Organization: FilmStyleVideo&Lighting
Message-ID: <michael-1004980320540001@nap-oec.max2-108.anet-chi.com>
References: <6gdu4a$341$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>
In article <6gdu4a$341$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>, petcher@howdy.wustl.edu
(Donald N. Petcher) wrote:
>We would like to purchase Mac hardware/software for simple editing of
>videos, and using them for classroom presentations, both on videotape
>and as quicktime segments. We presently plan to get the 266MHz G3 tower
>package that comes with the Apple A/V "personality" card. I haven't
>noticed the information I need going through the groups that I monitor,
>so I'd like to ask a few questions:
>1) Is the Apple A/V card a reasonable choice for doing the above. I have
>heard that the card only does 320x240 resolution which, I am told, is
>equivalent to that of NTSC television broadcast.
Its Not equivalent at all. Who ever told you that has no idea what they
are talking about but I'm not surprised as salespeople will tell you
almost anything. One would need to get up to 640 X 480 at a full 30 frames
a second sampling both fields(NTSC interlaced video) at 60 fields per
second for a full resolution video.
>This would be a small
>size when viewed on a screen for example. When you blow it up (I assume
>you can -- is this a memory question?) does it look pretty grainy?
It just looks soft like 3rd generation VHS. If your source isn't grainy
the video won't be. Its really made for making 1/4 screen video screens.
Memory has nothing to do with grain. That is dependent on the quality of
your source tape.
>How does it look when put back on videotape?
On small screens like 13" and below it doesn't look too bad.
>What other options might one have for presenting in class what the card
can >produce? (Video projecture needed?)
If you can you might consider a full resolution full frame rate analog in
& out card like the Miro DC-30 instead of the cheap Apple A/V card along
with a bigger Ultra EIDE drive replacing the stock one. They come in at
least a 8 gig size now.
>2) How much memory do you need to reasonably work with the card?
One should have the full 6 meg of video memory in the G3 if you can or at
the least 4 meg.
>3) What software is to be recommended? We don't need elaborate software
>(since the work is educational, not commercial) but just something that
>is solid and has reasonable editing features.
I ran across a good shareware editing program once. I'll search for it.
That sounds like just the thing for your situation. However there is a
special intro price of $89 for the full Strata Video Shop 4.0 package
which used to be Avid Video Shop.
>4) We would eventually like to move to Rhapsody. Is there software in
>the works for that? I.e. any ports from the Mac side or from the Next side
>announced?
I'm sure there is but I haven't heard of any yet. Probably something in
development for the BE OS too.
>Thanks for your help.
>
>Don Petcher
Michael
michael1abc@anet-chi.com
excise-abc to mail
From: FKudla@@concentric.net (Frank Kudla)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Apple Hardware/Software video questions
Date: 08 Apr 1998 21:29:44 EDT
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Message-ID: <FKudla-0804982128150001@ts004d20.day-oh.concentric.net>
References: <6gdu4a$341$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>
Just as an FYI.
I'm using the Avid Cinema card on a Power Mac 7600. I use it primarily for
producing training videos for my consulting business, but have also
created some pretty cool personal movies (lifetime retrospectives for
birthdays, etc.). The system outputs to TV or video tape (S or composite)
and the results look great (yes, they are full screen). While the feature
set of Avid is limited in comparison to Premier or some other software
solutions, for simple video editing, I can't imagine a more user friendly
product. Additionally, the tech support at Avid is incredible. (I needed
support only because I upgraded my machine's processor and needed an
updated driver.) The Avid system needs a PCI Mac with video-in
capabilities. I've seen some pretty impressive results from the now
discontinued Performa 6400. You might be able to pick one of these up from
a catalog reseller for around $1-1.5K (including the Avid system). Check
the ads in Mac periodicals. I also use Avid Cinema as a simple sound
editor (mostly cut & paste type editing). I have not had to invest in any
fancy, high performance hard drives. I use an internal SCSI hard drive and
have even used my Jaz drive to capture and edit video. If you're getting
the impression that I strongly endorse Avid, you're right! Good luck.
In article <6gdu4a$341$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>, petcher@howdy.wustl.edu
(Donald N. Petcher) wrote:
> We would like to purchase Mac hardware/software for simple editing of
> videos, and using them for classroom presentations, both on videotape
> and as quicktime segments. We presently plan to get the 266MHz G3 tower
> package that comes with the Apple A/V "personality" card. I haven't
> noticed the information I need going through the groups that I monitor,
> so I'd like to ask a few questions:
>
> 1) Is the Apple A/V card a reasonable choice for doing the above. I have
> heard that the card only does 320x240 resolution which, I am told, is
> equivalent to that of NTSC television broadcast. This would be a small
> size when viewed on a screen for example. When you blow it up (I assume
> you can -- is this a memory question?) does it look pretty grainy? How
> does it look when put back on videotape? What other options might one
> have for presenting in class what the card can produce? (Video
> projecture needed?)
>
> 2) How much memory do you need to reasonably work with the card?
>
> 3) What software is to be recommended? We don't need elaborate software
> (since the work is educational, not commercial) but just something that
> is solid and has reasonable editing features.
>
> 4) We would eventually like to move to Rhapsody. Is there software in
> the works for that? I.e. any ports from the Mac side or from the Next side
> announced?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Don Petcher
From: root@toneloc.ix.netcom.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "must haves" for NS
Date: 9 Apr 1998 02:18:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <6ghb4v$fkv@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com>
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In <1998040815554400.LAA05723@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
> Also look for PixelNHance.app, which is freeware and nice for adjusting
images
> slightly.
>
> There are lots of small niceties, a font inspector/previewer for example,
also
> RZ2DoList available from Running Start, also PageChain which is now freely
> licensed.
>
> Newton.app from www.ace.net if you have a Newton
>
> Lots of nifty stuff at Frank Siegert's Area 51, www.this.net/~frank,
especially
> his pStill.app which is a PDF converter.
>
> PDFView.app and the other PDF viewing programs
>
> If you've a real need to do otherwise impossible DTP stuff, OneVision of
> course, though for basic work there's AFS's PasteUp.
>
> SeleSort.app which is a sorting service--anyone have a current address for
the
> author? I've some spare cash and would like to pay up.
>
> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
>
> William
>
>
> William Adams
> http://members.aol.com/willadams
> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
>
>
--
Can you provide more info on OneVision?
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "must haves" for NS
Date: 9 Apr 1998 02:42:51 GMT
Message-ID: <1998040902425101.WAA21787@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6ghb4v$fkv@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com>
OneVision is written up in a book which includes a demo CD-ROM which is
available from Amazon.com Also more information from www.onevision.de
Fabulous program by all accounts--had a very nice writeup in Publish a while
back.
Furthermore....How could I forget these.
FontConvert.app by Frank Siegert (Frank, the stamped envelope with your address
on it is right in my view--will find my pStill license and mail in
soonest--sorry)
www.this.net/~frank of course, as well as all of the usual archives, but
Frank's just made a wonderful new beta of it available, which does lots more
(incredibly good TrueType->Type 1 conversions for example).
kfc.app Kurt's Free Calendar--I don't use this as much as I'd like, since my
Cube is kind of noisy to turn on, but this is on the MiscKit site and others, I
believe.
LaunchPad.app by Glenn Reid and co. of Right Brain Software--I don't much like
the icon or how its laid out though, and don't use it, but it's free! (Now if
only one could say the same for Engage!)
and Rulers by Stevan Wacker - this is nifty, puts movable rulers on-screen
which can be set to any measure one might like--perfect for those apps which
don't have nice guides.
ScanMaker.app by Black Albatross - this is only useful if one has one of three
or four scanners it supports, but I was lucky enough to happen into a Microtek
600zs and am very grateful.
ThreeD.app - a basic scene-renderer from the Blue Moon Tools page
The Music Kit from Stanford - with Ensemble.app and others - nice to play with,
wish I'd had them back when I was taking Music 223.
JetPilot - if you have Black hardware and a NeXTLaser, they've a free license
which supports the latter--hopefully I'll have the chance to get one of the
nifty NeXT Color Printers and purchase a license for it.
NXFax - Fax driver for Class 2 modems. For the most part, I've limited myself
to freely-distributed stuff, but this is too good to not mention, and in its
very useful demo mode, it does send single page faxes. Hopefully my one page
resume will do me some good in the near future and I can pay the shareware fee
so that I can use the license included in the readme.
Poste.app - A service which prints envelopes with customizable return
addresses, etc. I think this is for black hardware only.
The teTeX and other TeX packages - I hope I learn TeX well enough to appreciate
them sometime soon.
I'll close by mentioning a commercial program which I wish were still
available, TypeView - nice icon and interesting functionality, makes previewing
(installed) fonts very convenient and allows one to look at them closely. FWIW,
FontConvert has similar capabilities, which I think also work on uninstalled
fonts.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CedarWord (was re: "must haves" for NS)
Date: 9 Apr 1998 02:43:30 GMT
Message-ID: <1998040902433001.WAA19314@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6gh4bs$nbc$1@news7.ispnews.com>
Ah, I see. Ah well, back to Knuth's TeXBook ::sigh::
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Kevin Lewis <kml@nextbert.iac.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FAXING -- Driver Needed
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:41:53 -0400
Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877
Message-ID: <352E1387.8407F6AA@nextbert.iac.net>
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I know this touches sort of in this group, but I have a Color Turbo
running 3.3 and I have a US Robotics modem. I need to fax and recieve
fax, but I cannot for the life of me find any drivers to meet my needs.
Actually, I cannot find any drivers period. Can anyone help?
Kevin Lewis
kml@nextbert.iac.net
From: Jeffrey Parnaby <parnaby@macconnect.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: "must haves" for NS
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 00:03:43 +0000
Organization: MacConnect - Connecting the Mac OS to the World!
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I am a NS novice; just bought a color turbo. Can anyone recommend some
must have software? I'm particularly interested in word processing,
spreadsheet, and graphics.
Links or other leads on how to acquire the suggested apps would also be
appreciated.
Thanks.
From: "David V. Duccini" <duccini@bpsi.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Looking for Oracle Adaptor Source
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:12:24 -0500
Organization: Orbis Internet Services
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Can anyone send or point me in the right direction to find the source code
for the Oracle Adaptor for NextStep 3.3 ???
We have a bunch of DBKit apps that need to be upgraded to SQLNet 2.0 and
because of time constraints re-writing them for EOF 1.1 (which
we also have) is not really an option we would like to pursue.
As far as we can tell the only real barrier to running the DBKit apps on
SQLNet 2.0 is the damn login string is different.
NOTE: We tried hacking up the _sanitize function in the "OracleAdaptor" by
changing the text to _Sanitize so that we could include our own...but of
course the 'library' is check-summed
-duck
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From: Charles Swiger <chuck-nospam@blacksmith.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,news.software.nntp
Subject: GNKSA Evaluation for Alexandra.app
Date: 7 Apr 1998 16:25:02 GMT
Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc.
Message-ID: <6gdk0u$2ls$5@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>
This is a review of a Usenet newsreader for the NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP platform,
according to the testing criteria defined by
<URL=http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/>.
GNKSA Evaluation Form v2.0
Product Name : Alexandra
Product Version : 0.82
Tested on platform : OPENSTEP 4.2/Intel
Available for platforms: NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP
Evaluation date : 3/16/98
Evaluated by : Charles Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com>
Conclusion
==========
Alexandra 0.82 fails to satisfy some basic GNKSA requirement(s),
hence does NOT qualify for the Good Net-Keeping Seal of Approval.
Summary
=======
Pass Fail Total Pass/Fail%
MUSTS 30 11 41 73%/27%
SHOULDs 9 17 26 35%/65%
Details
=======
Regarding the strict GNKSA requirements (MUSTs), Alexandra 0.82
FAILS on the following points:
1c Does not show the groups the article was posted to (Newsgroups)
1d Fails to show where to followup to (Followup-To)
1e Does not show where to reply to (Reply-To)
6a Does not handle Followup-To: poster correctly
7c Does not restrict references sensibly
9a Does not support mailing instead after following up
9b Does not support posting instead after replying
9c Can both post as well as mail followups by default
16a Does not warn when posting an empty article
16c Does not warn when posting quoted text only
16e Does not warn against inadvertent multiple postings
Alexandra 0.82 violates `soft' GNKSA requirements (SHOULDs)
in the following way:
3b Does not warn when posting to a large number of groups
3c Fails to encourage setting a Followup-To on large crossposts
7d Does not keep as many references as possible
7e Fails to omit `broken' Message-IDs.
9d Mail message not preceded by notification when posted and mailed
10d Does not omit (proper) signatures from quoted text
10e Does not let the user indicate which part to followup to
10g Attribution line lacks Message-ID of original article
12c Can use a bogus e-mail address
13b Does not enable users to supersede their own articles
14a May cause posting mangled articles
14b Fails to warn for excessively long lines
14d Does not support rewrapping quoted text nicely
15b Does not warn on, or refuse, excessive signatures
16b Does not refuse posting an empty article
16d Does not refuse to post quoted text only
16f Does not try to prevent posting multiple copies entirely
Alexandra 0.82 sports the following nice net-keeping features
unmentioned by the GNKSA:
-- supports article catchup
-- supports both a list and a browser view of newsgroups, and a 4-way
preference between displaying "all newsgroups", "subscribed newsgroups",
"new newsgroups", and "groups with articles"
Additional Comments:
With regard to section 1, Alexandra follows the NEXTSTEP convention of
having an "article header inspector" which displays the contents of all
headers. It has a user preference for the subset of headers that get
displayed in the normal panel used for reading articles.
By factory default, though, this subset does not include all essential
headers, so it falls short by a noselength in this respect.
Checklist
========= (M)UST /
(S)HOULD
1) Displays all essential header information
Software clearly displays:
[Y] a) Article's author (From) M
[Y] b) Article's Subject M
[N] c) List of groups posted to (Newsgroups) M
[N] d) Where (and how) to direct followups (Followup-To) M
[N] e) Where to reply to if not the From-address (Reply-To) M
[N] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
2) Provides clear, separate commands for new posting, followup, and
e-mail reply
[Y] a) for posting a new article M
[Y] b) for posting a followup article M
[Y] c) for replying by e-mail M
[Y] d) Uses standard terminology S
[Y] e) Avoids ambiguous terminology S
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
3) Provides cross-posting functionality
[Y] a) Allows specifying multiple groups M
[N] b) Warns about, or prevents, posting to large numbers of groups S
[N] c) Strongly encourages setting Followup-To: on large crossposts S
(`Y' if large crosspostings are disallowed)
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
4) Allows users to change essential headers
[Y] a) Allows editing Subject at all times during composition M
[Y] b) Allows specifying new Subject of at least 70 characters M
[Y] c) Allows setting "Followup-To: poster" M
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
5) Ensures followups and e-mail replies contain a correct Subject
[Y] a) Prepends "Re: " if (and only if) not already present M
[Y] b) Preserves entire original Subject (modulo minor repairs) M
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
6) Directs followups to the correct newsgroups
[N] a) Initiates e-mail reply rather than a followup posting on
"Followup-To: poster", clearly informing the user M
[Y] b) Posts to groups in Followup-To if present M
[Y] c) Posts to groups in Newsgroups otherwise M
[N] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
7) Make sure followups contain valid References
[Y] a) Creates References header with Message-ID of original article
as the last element M
[Y] b) Includes last three References from original M
[N] c) Ensures References will fit in 998 characters M
[N] d) Keep as many References from original as fit S
[N] e) Does not propagate broken Message-IDs in original References S
[N] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
8) Direct e-mail replies to the correct address
[Y] a) Uses Reply-To if present M
[Y] b) Uses From address otherwise M
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
9) Allow the user to change her mind about whether to post or mail (or
do both) and behave if doing both
[N] a) Allows users to change their mind and mail rather than
post after having initiated a followup message M
[N] b) Allows users to change their mind and post rather than
mail after having initiated a reply message M
[N] c) Does not offer both posting and mailing as default behaviour M
[N] d) Inserts a notification that the message was posted as well
as mailed in the e-mail copy when both posting and mailing
a followup article S
[N] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
10) Provide adequate quotation and attribution facilities
[Y] a) Allows including quoted original M
[Y] b) Clearly distinguishes quoted material M
[Y] c) Prefixes quoted material with `>'/`> ' S
[N] d) Omits correctly delimited signatures from quoted material S
[N] e) Provides a means of indicating which part(s) to followup to S
[Y] f) Attribution line containing original author precedes quotes M
[N] g) Attribution contains Message-ID of quoted article S
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
11) Provide a user-specified "Subject: " header
[Y] a) Requires non-empty, user-specified Subject for new articles M
[Y] b) Refuses posting articles without, or with an empty, Subject M
[Y] c) Does not provide default Subject if user did not set one M
[Y] d) Allows changing the Subject at any time while editing M
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
12) Provide a valid "From: " header
[Y] a) Sets "From: " header to syntactically valid e-mail address M
[Y] b) Refuses posting articles without a syntactically valid
"From: " header M
[N] c) Uses correct e-mail addresses (valid and belonging to the
user) only, as far as it can possibly know S
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
13) Allow users to both cancel and supersede their own articles (and
_no_ others!)
[Y] a) Allows cancelling articles S
[N] b) Allows superseding articles S
[Y] c) As far as possible, does not allow cancelling or superseding
other peoples' articles M
[Y] d) Uses standard terminology S
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
14) Try to respect the 80-character line-length convention
[N] a) Articles are posted as edited, with linebreaking intact S
[N] b) Warns about lines over 80 characters S
[Y] c) Does not refuse to post articles containing long lines S
[N] d) Allows rewrapping quoted text S
[Y] e) Enforces formatting requirements on article after external
editing (`Y' if there is no support for external editors) S
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
15) Separate signatures correctly, and don't use excessive ones
[Y] a) Uses (and enforces) standard signature delimiter S
[N] b) Warns against or refuses to use excessive signatures S
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
16) Try to prevent obvious user errors
[N] a) Warns when attempting to post empty articles M
[N] b) Refuses posting empty articles S
[N] c) Warns when post articles containing quoted material only M
[N] d) Refuses posting quoted-text-only articles S
[N] e) Warns against posting multiple copies (if possible at all) M
[N] f) Prevents multiple posting entirely S
[N] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
17) Post human-readable articles unless ordered otherwise
[Y] Does not (and can not) encode or encrypt articles unless
on explicit user demand M
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
18) Provide self-protection
[Y] Allows filtering out annoying articles (killing) S
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
19) Be kind to servers, leave room for others
[Y] a) Does not unnecessarily open multiple connections M
[Y] b) Does not generate excessive server load otherwise M
[Y] PASS: Satisfies all MUSTs M
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+----------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for New Cryptor.bundle to use with pgp 5.x for Next/Open Step
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:27:26 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
Message-ID: <1998Apr10.092726.658@gamelan.okay.net>
References: <352dfa0d.11751750@news.globalaxis.com>
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Cc: dave@phibro.com
In <352dfa0d.11751750@news.globalaxis.com> Dave VanSickle wrote:
> Does anyone know where (or if) there is a new version of
> Cryptor.bundle for OpenStep? With the new version of pgp the options
> have changed - thus BREAKING the pgp tie with NeXT Mail.
As I'm no longer working on it I'll give it to the guys of EnhanceMail,
hopefully they will integrate it.
From: news@net2phone.com (Net2phone Information)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Warning about the FCC and Internet Taxes
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 0:34:46 -0500
Organization: NET2PHONE
Message-ID: <800892010086@net2phone.com>
This is not spam in the strictest sense of the definition, it's about the
FCC and more taxes that are looming ahead. The method of delivery is
spam-like and for that we apologize.
We apologize for bothering you, but if we don't warn you right now, you
might not be able to communicate over the net as freely as you do now.
The Federal Communications Commission is planning to regulate the Internet
by imposing new universal service fees which are likely to be passed on to
you in the form of higher Internet-service charges.
If these taxes are imposed, you will have to pay more every time you use
the Internet.
IDT Corporation (NASDAQ IDTC) a leading telecommunications and Internet access
company, wants to make sure this does not happen. We are calling for a
citizens uprising against government bureaucracy and taxes.
IDT is going to let you voice your opinion on our nickel.
We are sponsoring free phone calls to lobby your representative,
senator or the FCC against this most serious infraction against
affordable communications. By going to http://www.net2phone.com you can
place as many free calls as you like to Congress and the FCC to
demand your right to low-cost communications.
We have always viewed the Internet as a fantastic medium to communicate
with anyone worldwide at little or no cost. Please do not let the FCC take
this right away from you.
Please make that free call right now before you lose your right to
unfettered Internet access.
Thank you,
IDT/Net2Phone Management
http://www.net2phone.com
From: hidinger@spawar.navy.mil (Ronald M. Hidinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: kaffe awt error
Date: 7 Apr 1998 17:50:43 GMT
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA 92147
Message-ID: <6gdp1j$b72@poisson.nosc.mil>
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I am encountering the same difficulty with awt apps using kaffe as the
author of the appended post. I couldn't find a followup on my server
or dejanews. Since the author has not yet responded to a direct email
query, I thought I'd ask the group again, in case I've missed it. My
system details are OS4.2/intel/CoXist 3.2/kaffe 0.90.
Ron Hidinger
hidinger@spawar.navy.mil
----
Subject: kaffe on NeXT - problem
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Date: 1998/03/04
Message-ID: <6djed3$eah@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
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Hello
I compiled kaffe 0.9.0 with biss-AWT for NeXT (black) with Xnext. kaffe works
fine for simple progs, but if I want to use the appletviewer or any applet I
always get
---snip---
java.lang.NullPointerException
at java/awt/Font.initializeFont(105)
at java/awt/Font.<init>(119)
at sun/applet/AppletCopyright.<init>(40)
at sun/applet/AppletViewer.mainInit(984)
at sun/applet/AppletViewer.main(993)
---snip---
The same is for an intel-distribution with CubeX.
The same was shortly discussed for LINUX in the kaffe-mailinglist
(kaffe-0.9.0 problem with fonts?), but their solution does not work for me.
I belive that some font is missing in my X-distibution.
Can somebody please tell me what I am doing wrong?
Is there somebody out there, who can use kaffe on NeXT?
Thank you very much
Sven
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______________________________________________________/ / ______ __
sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/
please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/
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From: franic@usfca.edu (Ernie Franic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did I miss something ?
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 22:41:45 -0700
Organization: University of San Francisco
Message-ID: <franic-0804982241450001@138.202.213.193>
References: <6g0lok$9rn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6g12s7$7of@crcnis3.unl.edu> <6g1cek$70i$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
In article <6g1cek$70i$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>,
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) wrote:
> We could use VirtualPC for the MacOS, install NeXTSTEP into it, and run it
> in the Blue Box.
>
> And then, we could run Executor for NeXTSTEP in that, and then use
> Executor to run SoftPC for the Mac. Well, maybe not. But the first part
> might work... :-)
Don't discount the fact that Connectix could bring a Yellow Box version of
Virtual PC to Rhapsody...it would be sooooo much faster!
Even though I am a Mac user who has never used NEXTSTEP, I'm totally in
favor of a "black box" like the one mentioned earlier in the thread. Mac
users and NeXT users are now one community---we should be looking out for
each other's interest as it applies to Rhapsody.
And besides, anything that increases the base of software that runs on
Macintoshes is a Good Thing.
-Ernie Franic
Macintosh Systems Manager
Center for Instruction & Technology
School of Education
University of San Francisco
(415) 422-2876
From: oskar@medix.rhein-main.de (Oskar Oehling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WTB: Create 4.0 License
Date: 10 Apr 1998 09:30:11 GMT
Organization: rhein-main.de im IN e.V.
Message-ID: <6gkor3$4s$1@hermes.rhein-main.de>
Keywords: create 4
Looking for Create 4.0 for openstep 4.2 on intel .. please make offer
_______________________________________________________
Gesundheit ist ALLES.
Dr. med. Oskar Oehling
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From: *@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep for x86: is it available?
Date: 10 Apr 1998 16:27:24 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <6glh9c$q0a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
References: <352DCAE1.7474246A@hu.oracle.com>
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Cc: szitya@szitya.com
In <352DCAE1.7474246A@hu.oracle.com> Szitya wrote:
> Is NS available for x86 (Pentium)? What's NS state now? Is it free
> already or still commercial product?
It's still commercial.
You *might* be able to get NS3.3 from 1-800-try-next
The latest release is OpenStep 4.2 which is what I would suggest for
Pentiums. Try the same number and/or comp.sys.next.marketplace and/or
http://www.blackholeinc.com/
TjL
--
[Yes that is a valid mail address, and much easier to type]
From: "Chase T. Abbott" <chaser@visio.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP Help?
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:10:02 -0700
Organization: NorthWest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <6gjdf4$odp$1@brokaw.wa.com>
References: <35245494.DEAF7B89@earthlink.net>
I was also having the same problems.... there are some PPP front ends
that I have found to be nice. This includes Gatekeeper PPP app. I forget
where they are but if you do a yahoo search for Nextstep PPP, you will come
up with a place where you can get PPP installs and they have a page
dedicated to PPP front ends and monitors.
-The Chaser
zan wrote in message <35245494.DEAF7B89@earthlink.net>...
>I am having some problems setting up PPP for NeXTStep 3.3 Intel. I have
>downloaded NeXTPPP 2.2 and 3.2, however, I have only setup PPP in MacOS,
>BeOS and Linux and all of those have a nice neat GUI, all the BSD books
>in the book store are to old to have information on PPP. Is there a
>nice GUI setup availible? Is OpenStep for Mach an improvement?
>
>Thanks,
>Zan
>
From: dave@phibro.com (Dave VanSickle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for New Cryptor.bundle to use with pgp 5.x for Next/Open Step
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:45:09 GMT
Message-ID: <352dfa0d.11751750@news.globalaxis.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Does anyone know where (or if) there is a new version of
Cryptor.bundle for OpenStep? With the new version of pgp the options
have changed - thus BREAKING the pgp tie with NeXT Mail.
- Thanks!
From: Koo <weeleng@amind.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Rhapsody Computer Telephony S/W H/W?
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:47:46 +0800
Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore
Message-ID: <352CFBB1.AB56B3C6@amind.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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Hi,
I am searching for Rhapsody/Yellow Box Computer Telephony software,
hardware.
Any pointer?
Regards,
Koo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: OPENSTEP/NeXT (Re: C++ on NeXT?)
Message-ID: <Er8B58.387.0.scream@sounds.wa.com>
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <3514195A.950A6554@cs.utexas.edu>
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:03:07 GMT
In article <3514195A.950A6554@cs.utexas.edu>,
Makoto Sadahiro <sadahiro@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
> Hi, I am wondering if someone can help me to solve my curiousity. I
>understand that you use Object-C if you use any of NeXT machine. You
>can not use OPENSTEP nor developer version Rhapsody.
You can use OPENSTEP on NeXT hardware, up to the latest version 4.2
OPENSTEP apps seem slow on the old 25 MHz 68040, but NEXTSTEP apps run at
full speed under OPENSTEP. Any tool that has been replaced, such as
ProjectBuilder and InterfaceBuilder, seem to be slow on startup, but run
at a reasonable speed after that. Compiling (particularly linking) seems
slow under OPENSTEP, but you do gain a lot of features over NEXTSTEP.
If you can get two NeXT machines, it would be best to network them and
have NEXTSTEP on one, and OPENSTEP on the other. This also makes a nice
arrangement for porting NEXTSTEP software to Rhapsody - the OPENSTEP tools
can do most of the conversion, and Rhapsody is very similar to OPENSTEP.
You can not use Rhapsody on NeXT hardware.
--
Brian Willoughby NEXTSTEP, OpenStep, Rhapsody Software Design
Sound Consulting Apple Enterprise Alliance Partner
NeXTmail welcome Macintosh Associate
Apple is the registered trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. and Apple Records
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mcbinc@world.std.com (Monty C Brandenberg)
Subject: Re: NXBench
Message-ID: <Er8GEC.JzD@world.std.com>
Organization: MCB, Incorporated. Cambridge, MA
References: <Er6n57.6AD@world.std.com> <6gkg4e$fns$1@xmission.xmission.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 04:56:36 GMT
Kristofer Jon Magnusson (kris@xmission.xmission.com) wrote:
: Monty C. Brandenberg <mcbinc@world.std.com.MAPS> wrote:
: : Anyone have a pointer to a good binary or source for NXBench? The version
: : on peak is missing a .nib, and maybe a few other things, and doesn't run
: : so well...
: Don and I have an OPENSTEPified NWBench. It doesn't test DPS, but it does
: cough up MIPS and Dhrystones, as well as memory bitblts, disk subsystem
: performance, etc. There is always the old version on Peak and Peanuts.
No, I need NXBench. The *only* thing I'm immediately interested in
is graphics performance for some approximate metric. Comparable to
Xmarks. General performance testing comes later....
m
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From: mcbinc@world.std.com.MAPS (Monty C. Brandenberg)
Subject: NXBench
Sender: news@world.std.com (Mr Usenet Himself)
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 05:27:06 GMT
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Organization: MCB, Inc.
Anyone have a pointer to a good binary or source for NXBench? The version
on peak is missing a .nib, and maybe a few other things, and doesn't run
so well...
--
Monty Brandenberg, Software Consultant MCB, Inc.
mcbinc@world.std.com.MAPS P.O. Box 426188
mcbinc@ne.mediaone.net.MAPS Cambridge, MA 02142-0021
617.864.6907
From: easter@egg.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Do you want to earn CASH $$$ ?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 06:09:17 -0700
Organization: <no organization>
Message-ID: <120498060917@egg.com>
It Works!!!!
First, I would like to start off by telling you that I am only 15 and
ROLLING in cash. I'm thinking about buying a new car when I get my driver's
license.
This WORKS! But you must follow my instructions to the letter. Once you get
the hang of it though, it's really easy. So if
you want some extra cash, and would like to earn it by doing nothing, then
it's worth it. All you have to do is follow the directions and you'll make a
ton!. To get the details, read
on.......................
THIS REALLY CAN MAKE YOU EASY MONEY!
A little while back, I was browsing some newsgroups and came across an
article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars
within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00! So I thought, "OK,
why not
try this, if its a scam I'll only lose $6.00." Besides, it's so simple - no
complicated stuff like mailing disks to people [some of the others are based
on selling computer disks to people]. Anyway, it told me to send $1.00 to
each of the 6 people on the list. You
then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and
post the article in some newsgroups (there are literally thousands). No
catch, that was it. So I thought 'hey, what have I got to lose
except six stamps and a few bucks, right?'
But like most of you I was still a little skeptical and a little worried
about
the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office
(1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal!
I then invested the measly $6.00, and stamps.
Well, GUESS WHAT.....within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail!
I was shocked! I still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it
another thought. I had done an experiment, and I made back my $7.92. But the
money just kept coming in. In my first week, I
made about $36.00 dollars. By the end of the second week I had made a total
of
over $1,000.00!!!!!! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still
growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over
$42,000.00 and it's still coming in VERY rapidly!
It's certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps, You could spend more than that
on the
lottery!!
Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, WHY it
works..... also, you might want to print a copy of this article, so you can
refer to it as needed. The process is very simple and consists of 3 easy
steps:
STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each one:
"PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST" + your name and address. Now
get six American $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of
paper and fold it over so the bill will not be seen through
the envelope (to prevent theft). Now, put one paper in each of the six
envelopes and seal them. You should now have six sealed envelopes, each with
a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name, your address, and a
$1.00 bill.
STEP 2: Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:
*1 Earl Sampson
16975 Cherry Crest Ave.
Lake Oswego, OR 97O34
*2 Mark Bailey
39O6 Arnold Ct.
Cleveland, OH 441O9
*3 Kane McDolh
327O De la Pepiniere ave.
appartment 2O8
Montreal, Quebec
Canada H1N-3N4
*4 David Lane
816 Danbbury Road
Cincinnati, Ohio 45240
*5 Jeremy Fulton
5804 Inman Park Circle
Unit 370
Rockville, MD 20852
*6 Arkay Sajorda
1B Jalan Tun Sambanthan 4,
Brickfields 50470
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
STEP 3: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
other names up (#6 becomes #5, #5 becomes #4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as
#6 on
the list.
STEP 4: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close
to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to some newsgroups
(I think there are close to 24,000 newsgroups) and/or email it to some
people. remember, the more you post, the more money you make!
Don't know HOW to post in the newsgroups? Well do exactly the following:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
DIRECTIONS - HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Step 1: You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own
posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter, click and
hold down your mouse button. While continuing to hold down the mouse
button, drag your cursor to the bottom of this document and over to just
after the
last character, and release the mouse button. At this point the entire
letter should be highlighted. Then, from the 'edit' pull down menu
at the top of your screen select 'copy'. This will copy the entire letter
into the computers memory.
Step 2: Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top of the
blank page. From the 'edit' pull down menu select 'paste'. This will paste
a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name to the list.
Remember to eliminate the #1 position, move everyone up a spot (re-number
everyone elses positions), and add yourself in as #6.
Step 3: Save your new notepad file.
---------------------------------------
FOR NETSCAPE NAVIGATOR USERS:
---------------------------------------
Step 4: Within the Netscape program, go to the pull-down window entitled
'Window' select 'NetscapeNews'. Then from the pull down menu 'Options',
select 'Show all Newsgroups'. After a few moments a list of all the
newsgroups on your server will show up. Click on any newsgroup you desire.
From within this newsgroup, click on the 'TO NEWS' button, which should be
in the top left corner of the
newsgroups page. This will bring up a message box.
Step 5: Fill in the Subject. This will be the header that everyone sees as
they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group.
Step 6: Highlight the entire contents of your .txt file and copy them using
the same technique as before. Go back to the newsgroup 'TO NEWS' posting
you are creating and paste the letter into the body of your posting.
Step 7: Hit the 'Send' Button in the upper left corner. You're done with
your first one! Congratulations...
-----------------------------------------------
INTERNET EXPLORER USERS:
-----------------------------------------------
Step 4: Go to newsgroups and select 'Post an Article' or 'New Message.'
Step 5: Fill in the subject. This will be the header that everyone sees as
they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group.
Step 6: Highlight the entire contents of your .txt file and copy them using
the same technique as before. Go back to the newsgroup 'TO NEWS' posting
you are creating and paste the letter into the body of your posting.
Step 7: Hit the 'Send' Button in the upper left corner. You're done with
your first one! Congratulations...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroupes and post
away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each
newsgroup!
**THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL** **MAKE!!**
That's it! You will begin reciving money from around the world within
days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount of
mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to
use, as long as the postman will deliver it.
**JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.**
Now the WHY part:
Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example).
So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the 5
persons who just sent me $1.00 make 200 postings, each with my name at #5
and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another
$25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 posts with my name at #4 and only
5
replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons
turn around and post 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each,
I
will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of
those 625 persons post 200 letters with my name at #2 and they each only
receive
5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all
deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at
#1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive
$15,625,00! With a original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! And as I
said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is probably 20 to 30! So lets
put
those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is what you could make:
at #6 $15.00
at #5 $225.00
at #4 $3,375.00
at #3 $50,625.00
at #2 $759,375.00
at #1 $11,390,625.00
When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting
in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the list, putting
your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember
is, do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining
the internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU are now!!
So can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People
have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money?
So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new
honest users and new honest people who are joining the internet and
newsgroups everday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at
20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the
actual
internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just
have to be honest.
Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list
of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroups
to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST
POLICY.
You don't need to cheat the basic idea to make the money!!
GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from
this, which is tons of extra CASH.
P.S. Another great way to get this out to people is to send it to your
friends, relatives, etc. in e-mail. Have fun! :)
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: C++ and openstep for NT
Date: 11 Apr 1998 19:11:08 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6gp7rs$abe@slip.net>
References: <352A7420.82647C6B@itis.com>
Try :
cc -o Hello Hello.cc -lg++
works for me.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <25462891752418@digifix.com>
Date: 12 Apr 1998 03:50:19 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <5697892353623@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar
Subject: cmsg cancel <8c35.13e64.32@tecra>
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From: Bruce Yarbro <blyarbro@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need 3.3 Moto Boot Floppy contents
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:26:37 -0600
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3530346B.D08364E@earthlink.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I just bought a NS 3.3 CD but it was missing the 3.3 boot floppy (it has
the Intel).
I've tried to create a boot floppy as per the instructions from
NeXTAnswers but for some reason it isn't working properly.
I was wondering if the disk contents are small and enough and someone
has it could the contents be emailed to me. Right now I'm running on the
internet with Netscape and my Mac.
Thanks y'all for any help!
Bruce Yarbro
From: Jackie O <JackieO@apmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: <<<<<<<<< Turn Your PC Into a Bulk Mail Server >>>>>>>
Followup-To: fido7.mg.business
Date: 12 Apr 98 03:28:29 -0500
Organization: Smart
Message-ID: <8c39.30dd.118@default>
content-length: 470
New! ! ! EXPRESS MAIL SERVER lets you send bulk e-mail right from
your own computer! It bypasses your ISP server, verifies domains,
personalizes messages, and is extremely fast, and sends up to 100,000
messages an hour. Messages go directly from your computer to the
recipients mail box. Don't get kicked off line again for bulk e-
mailing, get Express Mail Server today! For more information contact
Jackie O at (314) 367-3549 or JackieO@apmail.com
From: jmeacham@qis.net (James D. Meacham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FAXING -- Driver Needed
Organization: Center for Communications Programs--The Johns Hopkins University
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
References: <352E1387.8407F6AA@nextbert.iac.net>
Message-ID: <o64Y.105$BP5.941046@news-read1.qis.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:22:12 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:22:12 EST
In <352E1387.8407F6AA@nextbert.iac.net> Kevin Lewis wrote:
> I know this touches sort of in this group, but I have a Color Turbo
> running 3.3 and I have a US Robotics modem. I need to fax and recieve
> fax, but I cannot for the life of me find any drivers to meet my needs.
> Actually, I cannot find any drivers period. Can anyone help?
>
> Kevin Lewis
> kml@nextbert.iac.net
>
>
>
>
NXFax has been released by Black and White software as shareware. It can be
found on the archives (next-ftp.peak.org and leo.org). I've used it with a
half a dozen modems, and it has worked for all of them. Good luck. Peace,
James
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get done." -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
From: ahoesch@on-luebeck.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SmartBase for OPENSTEP
Date: 12 Apr 1998 19:52:48 GMT
Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V.
Message-ID: <6gr62g$r5@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
SUBMISSION
SmartBase 1.2
SmartBase is an ObjectBase for OPENSTEP
http://www.smartsoft.de/SmartBase/SmartBase.1.2.I.b.tar.gz
SmartBase has been developed to simplify the development and maintenance of
huge software systems based on OPENSTEP, Apples new next generation operating
system. This goal is achieved by centralizing the business logic for more
flexibility, by providing support for remote object instanciation in order to
support the design of client/server architectures and by introducing an
advanced object paradigm allowing to create data models at a very high
abstraction level.
Š Centralized business logic
Š Remote object support
Š Advanced object paradigm
SmartBase does not provide data storage mechanisms on its own but makes use
of an ordinary relational database management system for this purpose. You
can think of SmartBase as an objective extension for your database. Because
SmartBase is based on Apples Enterprise Objects Framework it principly can be
used with any RDBMS, that's supported by EOF or comes with an EOF-Adapter.
SmartBase is built for Intel. You need to have OpenStep 4.x Mach Developer
and EOF installed to take full advantage of this product. Moreover you need a
RDBMS. The current release only supports OpenBase (Version 5.1.3 or higher).
See http://www.openbase.com to get a demo version of OpenBase for Mach.
INSTALLATION
Simply untar SmartBase.1.2.I.tar.gz and install all five packages on your
workstation. Read the documentation in /NextLibrary/SmartBase/Documentation
for further details. If you encounter any problems or have suggestions
regarding the further development of SmartBase, do not hesitate to contact
us. We're happy to hear from you.
For further information, contact:
Smartsoft Development
Email: info@smartsoft.de
Special thanks to Scott Keith from OPENBASE for his kind support!!!
From: "Brendan Duddridge" <brendan@clickspace.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DHCP Software for Rhapsody?
Organization: ClickSpace Technologies Inc.
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Message-ID: <k$4Y.8$cN3.99215@read.cal.sfl.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:21:52 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 09:21:52 MST
Hi,
Is there a DHCP client program for Rhapsody? I'm on a network that I can't
use static IP addresses on.
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Brendan Duddridge
ClickSpace Technologies Inc.
Calgary, AB
Canada
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: Dave Wentzlaff <wentzlaf@uiuc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Why would a NeXT shut itself down, and how do I stop it?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 18:44:24 -0500
Organization: UIUC
Message-ID: <353151D8.91D3CA82@uiuc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Greetings,
This is probably a dumb question, but I have noticed that my NeXT
Color Turbo shuts itself down after a long period of no use. I don't
want this to happen because I run a web server on it that I want to have
running all of the time. I think it might only happen when it is at the
login screen, but I am not sure. This might be a power saving feature,
but I don't like it. If anybody has an idea how to fix this or if it is
really my machine crashing, because it doesn't seem to properly
shutdown, but rather just poof powers off, please e-mail or reply:)
Thanks in advance,
David Wentzlaff
wentzlaf@uiuc.edu
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why would a NeXT shut itself down, and how do I stop it?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 13 Apr 1998 00:22:02 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <6grlra$ar9$9@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
My guess would be a bad power supply.... but that is a guess.
If there is someone else around with a NeXT you might see if swapping them
would help...
TjL
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why would a NeXT shut itself down, and how do I stop it?
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com>
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <35317609.0@206.25.228.5>
Date: 13 Apr 98 02:18:49 GMT
nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
wrote:
> NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
> My guess would be a bad power supply.... but that is a guess.
> If there is someone else around with a NeXT you might see if
> swapping them would help...
An alternative explanation might be more heartening. I believe
some of the later model machines had a preferences panel that
allowed for timed powerings. That might be the culprit.
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From: "Matthew M. Stits" <stits@skylink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: wanted next machines
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:44:44 -0700
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I want to get a next machine. If any one has one contact me make me an
offer.
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Subject: Re: Why would a NeXT shut itself down, and how do I stop it?
Date: 13 Apr 1998 03:50:37 GMT
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In <35317609.0@206.25.228.5> John Kheit wrote:
> nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
> wrote:
> > NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
> > My guess would be a bad power supply.... but that is a guess.
> > If there is someone else around with a NeXT you might see if
> > swapping them would help...
>
> An alternative explanation might be more heartening. I believe
> some of the later model machines had a preferences panel that
> allowed for timed powerings. That might be the culprit.
It could be a couple of things. Bad battery causing the nonvolitle
RAM to reset or get flaky. Bad powersupply. If the onboard clock
gets screwed up a lot I'd suspect the battery. Generally I can't
see how the timed powerings could be the culprit since I believe
one has to set a date not a time from power on - though I could
be mistaken.
Another note. It is possible that you have the preferences set to
autoreboot after power outage. If for some reason your power
is flaky (brown-out conditions or drops) a NeXT will turn off
but if autoboot is set it will turn back on when power comes on.
I don't like this feature since one should wait a bit before coming
back up or face more drops..
BTW: NeXT's are the LEAST sensitive to brown outs than any other
computer I've seen due to a very well designed Power supply, but
they will drop when the voltage get's below 80-90Volts for anything
longer than 10 seconds. I don't know exactly where since I've not
experimented with this, but I have a UPS that measures power
conditions and cuts in when the line voltage is too low (100-105Volts
roughtly).. I'm sure it cut in on my SGI one time whilst my PC dropped,
lights dimmed, NeXT dimmed but kept on going w/o a hitch..
I'm pretty sure the order of things I would check would be.
On board battery (is your clock loosing time if you unplug the slab
on power off).
Line supply may be low or flaky (brown-out or line drops)
Power supply (could be getting too hot in there - ever cleaned
your slab of dust balls??)
That's about all I can think of. Good luck and if you find out what
happened or what fixed it I'd like to know.
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Uses of dread and dwrite
Date: 12 Apr 1998 22:09:42 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6gs6mm$cas@slip.net>
Supposed to allow a user to write to his NeXTDefault.L file
(try dread -l).
How is this used?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to use /usr/sybase
Date: 12 Apr 1998 22:39:14 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
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Hi,
Does anyone know what has to be done to make it so
you can use the stuff in /usr/sybase? I'd like
to make a small SQL database app.
Thanks,
Emmett
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "must haves" for NS
Date: 12 Apr 1998 23:03:01 -0700
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of important E-Mail Big Mouth (Text2Speech) is a
useful app.
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From: spagiola@usa.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: wanted next machines
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 07:49:46 -0600
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"Matthew M. Stits" <stits@skylink.net> wrote:
> I want to get a next machine. If any one has one contact me make me an
> offer.
Try
http://www.deepspacetech.com/Nexthardware.html
http://www.orb.com/NewIndex.html
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Uses of dread and dwrite
Date: 13 Apr 1998 14:02:09 GMT
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In <6gs6mm$cas@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
> Supposed to allow a user to write to his NeXTDefault.L file
> (try dread -l).
>
> How is this used?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean.
1) Do NOT NOT NOT try to edit that NeXTDefault.L or .D file by hand unless
you want to lose all your dwrites.... (he said, having done it to himself)
2) to see all your dwrites; use 'dread -l'
to see for one app use 'dread -o APPNAME' such as 'dread -o Mail'
to set a value use 'dwrite APPNAME dwritename dwritevalue' for example if
you
want to set Emacs-keybindings on for Mail app:
dwrite Mail KeyBindings YES
or to turn them off:
dwrite Mail KeyBindings NO
3) if you want to delete all dwrites for a particular app, you can do:
dread -o APPNAME | dremove
or just a particular one by
dremove APPNAME dwritename
such as
dremove Mail KeyBindings
Hope that helps
TjL
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From: dave@phibro.com (Dave)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anybody compile PGP 5.0?
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:15:04 GMT
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take a look on www.peanuts.org i just saw it last week
On 10 Apr 1998 01:20:38 -0500, awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Andy Wang)
wrote:
>has anyone compiled PGP 5.0?
>there's a patch in NXPGP 5.0 for the beta version, but that patch
>also includes some other stuff and i'm not sure what ends where (port
>vs. hacks).
>
>if anyone has gotten pgp 5.0 compiled, care to upload a patch somewhere?
>thanks
>andy
From: dave@phibro.com (Dave)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for New Cryptor.bundle to use with pgp 5.x for Next/Open Step
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:18:11 GMT
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Any way i can grab the source? I would not mind helping a
little.
Thanks
On Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:27:26 GMT, thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
wrote:
>In <352dfa0d.11751750@news.globalaxis.com> Dave VanSickle wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know where (or if) there is a new version of
>> Cryptor.bundle for OpenStep? With the new version of pgp the options
>> have changed - thus BREAKING the pgp tie with NeXT Mail.
>
>
>As I'm no longer working on it I'll give it to the guys of EnhanceMail,
>hopefully they will integrate it.
>
>
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From: 0schrier_j@spcvxa.spc.edu
Subject: Getting fonts to show up?
Organization: St. Peter's College, US
Message-ID: <1998Apr13.123422.1@spcvxa.spc.edu>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:34:22 GMT
Any pointers on how to get Fonts to show up in the Font panel? I copied them
from them from a Fatted-Calf CD into my NextLibrary/Fonts/ directory, but they
don't seem to show up. I'm running NS3.3.
Thanks for the help
--Josh
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Getting fonts to show up?
Date: 13 Apr 1998 17:53:30 GMT
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In <1998Apr13.123422.1@spcvxa.spc.edu> 0schrier_j@spcvxa.spc.edu wrote:
> Any pointers on how to get Fonts to show up in the Font panel? I copied
them
> from them from a Fatted-Calf CD into my NextLibrary/Fonts/ directory, but
they
> don't seem to show up. I'm running NS3.3.
Oh, no, bad idea.
Don't change anything under /NextApps/ or /NextLibrary (except Receipts)
Make any changes to /LocalApps or /LocalLibrary
In this case new fonts should be put into /LocalLibrary/Fonts/
Actually I would recommend putting them into ~/Library/Fonts/ which will
automatically update some other font-related files... buildafm files or
something like that...
I actually made a link from ~/Library/Fonts to /LocalLibrary/Fonts
TjL
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From: cdvorak@earthlink.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Getting fonts to show up?
Date: 13 Apr 1998 18:01:03 GMT
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In <1998Apr13.123422.1@spcvxa.spc.edu> 0schrier_j@spcvxa.spc.edu wrote:
> Any pointers on how to get Fonts to show up in the Font panel? I copied
them
> from them from a Fatted-Calf CD into my NextLibrary/Fonts/ directory, but
they
> don't seem to show up. I'm running NS3.3.
>
> Thanks for the help
> --Josh
>
>
Short trip:
1) Open a shell as root
2) buildafmdir
3) exceptions will be returned to your shell
Long trip:
1) Open each font package i.e. Cmd-Shift-O on *.font
2) Family name precedes a hyphen.
i.e. Bodoni-Bold
Family = Bodoni
exception - Medium and Regular weight require no hyphen or weight name
3) Weight follows the hyphen
i.e. Bodoni-Bold
Weight = Bold
exception - Medium and Regular weight require no hyphen or weight name
but it can be used if you like.
4) The entire name within a package must be identical.
a) Bodoni-Bold.font (your font package)
b) Bodoni-Bold (your printer font)
c) Bodoni-Bold.afm (your font metrics file)
5) Now - open the printer and afm files in Edit
a) For the printer font:
- Make sure all occurences of the font name contains the Family and Weight
i.e. FontDirectory/Bodoni-Bold known{/Bodoni-Bold
- Except
/FamilyName should not contain the weight
/Weight should not contain the familyname
i.e.
FontDirectory/Bodoni-Bold known{/Bodoni-Bold findfont dup/UniqueID
known{dup
/UniqueID get 0 eq exch/FontType get 1 eq and}{pop false}ifelse
{save true}{false}ifelse}{false}ifelse
12 dict begin
/FontInfo 9 dict dup begin
/version (001.001) readonly def
/FullName (Bodoni-Bold) readonly def
/FamilyName (Bodoni) readonly def
/Weight (Bold) readonly def
/ItalicAngle 0 def
/isFixedPitch false def
/UnderlinePosition -100 def
/UnderlineThickness 50 def
/Notice (Copyright (c) 1986, 1990, 1991 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All
Rights Reserved.) readonly def
end readonly def
/FontName /Bodoni-Bold def
b) For the afm file
- Repeat the logic described for the Printer font.
6) Save and close everything
7) open a shell as root and buildafmdir
- errors will be returned
- fonts edited correctly should appear in all Font Panels sorted by Family
and Weight
8) Some third party fonts (very few) do not work and/or may crash your
program. That's life.
9) The more you alter a font name from common usage, the more trouble you
will have with
files using it when you cross platforms.
From: hbomb@law.uoregon.edu (Herschel M. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printer Help
Date: 13 Apr 1998 23:05:33 GMT
Organization: UO
Message-ID: <hbomb-1304981607290001@metriclient-2.uoregon.edu>
OK,
Just got my Color Slab, and pluged my Apple LaserWriter Select into port A
on the back, went into the Printer Control Panel, and Selected the
printer, and Port A. Said print me a test page and nothing happens. The
printer does not do anything, I know the Printer works on my mac, and I'm
using a standard Cable, any ideas>
Thanks So much for your help
Herschel M. Brown
UO School of Law
hbomb@law.uoregon.edu
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:24:10 -0500
From: gcc: fatal error: signal 11 <psykill@geocities.com>
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Is there any way to install OPENSTEP for Mach 4.2 on a partition other
than 1?
Lee
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing on Partition 2
Date: 14 Apr 1998 01:04:23 GMT
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In <3533FE2A.B917F0C1@geocities.com> gcc: fatal error: signal 11 wrote:
> Is there any way to install OPENSTEP for Mach 4.2 on a partition other
> than 1?
The installation process should recognize the partition and ask where you
want OpenStep.
TjL
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From: olaf@orest.escape.de
Subject: Re: FAXING -- Driver Needed
Message-ID: <ErDJ6q.2C3@orest.escape.de>
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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 22:44:50 GMT
In article <o64Y.105$BP5.941046@news-read1.qis.net> jmeacham@qis.net (James D.
Meacham) writes:
> In <352E1387.8407F6AA@nextbert.iac.net> Kevin Lewis wrote:
> > I know this touches sort of in this group, but I have a Color Turbo
> > running 3.3 and I have a US Robotics modem. I need to fax and recieve
> > fax, but I cannot for the life of me find any drivers to meet my needs.
> > Actually, I cannot find any drivers period. Can anyone help?
> >
> > Kevin Lewis
> > kml@nextbert.iac.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> NXFax has been released by Black and White software as shareware. It can be
> found on the archives (next-ftp.peak.org and leo.org). I've used it with a
> half a dozen modems, and it has worked for all of them. Good luck. Peace,
>
> James
>
NXFax probably supports most of class 2 modems, but probably not class 2.0.
USR supports nearly class 2.0 and class 1.
You may try "mgetty-sendfax" (a UNIX fax driver) or "OlafAM" (a NextStep voice/
fax driver) or other, which supports class 2.0 to use your USR modem for
faxing. But as far as I know all have problems with the USR implementation
of class 2.0.
It seems, that USR (like some other modem manufacturers) only supports class 1,
which runs maybe fine on Windows, but not on UNIX machines.
The best way to send and receive faxes with a Next Computer is to buy a
class 2 modem and to buy NXFax or OlafAM (which can handle voice calls as
well).
ZyXEL modems e.g. are a good choice, USR not.
Regards
Olaf
From: jmeacham@qis.net (James D. Meacham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Linux + NEXTSTEP + Win95
Organization: Center for Communications Programs--The Johns Hopkins University
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:21:10 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:21:10 EST
Hi all,
I'm getting a 3 gig IDE drive for my Dell P90. So I have two questions.
First, will NS 4.2 work on this machine:
Dell Dimension XPS P90 with 32 megs RAM, 1 520 meg IDE HD, 1 3 gig IDE HD, an
IDE CD-ROM, etc. I don't have a SCSI board, but I've got a SCSI CD-ROM
connected to my NeXT, which is currently networked via ethernet to the PC. I
was figuring I'd do a network install, if that is possible.
Question two, which is really the one I need help with, 'cause I can look up
question 1, is how to configure the hard drive. I was thinking that I could
cut it even slices, put Linux on one, win95 on one and NS on one, and use
LILO as the boot manager. Is it possible to use LILO to boot NeXTSTEP? If
it isn't, what are the alternatives? Are there other freeware boot managers?
This multi-OS thing is somewhat new to me, 'cause 'till now I just used
NeXTSTEP, period. And if my black hardware wasn't aging, and if there was
still support for it, I still would.
So, anyway, any help in setting up this schizophrenic system would be
appreciated. Peace,
James
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CedarWord (was re: "must haves" for NS)
Date: 14 Apr 1998 16:41:44 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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>
>BTW, I've heard that a LyX port (WYSIWYG LaTeX editing) is
>on the way for OPENSTEP.
>
i have done a rtfd to LaTeX compiler using the NSAttributedString class.
though it is unpolished, pretty much tailored to my document-formatting
conventions and has no UI, it might be a starting point for something more
fancy. so if anybody is interested in the source... drop me a mail.
daniel
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From: kjb@uts.amdahl.com (Kevin Barth)
Subject: Re: "find" in Improv
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:55:18 GMT
In article <6gje1q$287i@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> beigel@rbo.eecs.lehigh.edu
(Richard Beigel) writes:
> Does Improv have a "find" feature? It would be really nice to search a
> spreadsheet for entries containing specific words.
Not that I know of (please post if you find out differently).
However, it isn't that hard to type command-a (select all), command-c
(copy), then click in a terminal window and type 'paste | grep -i "that
string or word you were looking for"'.
Now, if you really need to know where in the spreadsheet that is and can't
tell from the previous output, copy the entire pasteboard to a new Edit
docuemnt (open a new doc in Edit.app), then use the 'find' fewature in
Edit.
I know this isn't as easy as what you were looking for, but still it's not
so hard (and does show off the overall power of working in this
environment).
--
Regards,
Kevin Barth (kjb@amdahl.com) phone: +44-1252-346307
Open Systems Staff Support fax: +44-1252-346406
Amdahl Corporation
From: Chris Roehrig <croehrig@House.ORG>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SimCIty 2000 under SoftPC
Date: 14 Apr 1998 21:26:22 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <6h0k9u$anl$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca>
I'm trying to get SimCity 2000 running under NEXTSTEP using SoftPC and am still
having problems getting SoftPC to run full-screen with a Matrox Millenium. If
anyone has any luck, let me know.
You can get the SoftPC 4.0 demo for NEXTSTEP 3.2/3.3 (intel) at
ftp://ftp.insignia.com/unix/next/SoftPC_4.0.tar
So far I've figured out that you need to add the line
"MatroxMGA2064WDisplayDriver" = "TextInterleaved";
to the SoftPC.app/video_types file. (MatroxMGA2064WDisplayDriver is the
"Driver Name" of your display driver in the Instance0.table)
I've also figured out that the SoftPC Display Driver that Windows uses is only
a 16 color depth which is why SimCity 2000/Win3.1 doesn't work (it needs 256
color). SCURK works fine under SoftPC windowed.
Does anyone know if the SoftPC 4.1 Windows driver uses a 256 color Windows
palette?
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http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: gvandyk@icon.co.za
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenStep -> SAP/R3 Interface
Date: 15 Apr 1998 05:44:51 GMT
Organization: Technologies Domain
Message-ID: <6h1hgj$1eg$1@hermes.is.co.za>
Hi,
We are looking for an interface between Openstep and SAP/R3. Is there
anything out there that we we can have a look at?
--
Regards,
Gerrit van Dyk
email: gvandyk@icon.co.za (NeXTMail welcome)
Technologies Domain (Pty) Ltd
The OBJECT is the ADVANTAGE
From: "Chase T. Abbott" <chaser@visio.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Multi OS Computers
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:26:32 -0700
Organization: NorthWest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <6h0nql$97t$1@brokaw.wa.com>
In addition to a Color Turbo, I have 3.3 on Intel platform coexisting
with Solaris and NT. Right now I have to enable the Hard Drive that I want
to use and disable all other hard drives. NT and Solaris are on a partition
on a IDE Drive and Next is on a SCSI. I have to disable the IDE to run
Next. Does anyone know if there is a command line that I can use in the
boot.ini for NT that would boot to the Next portion? NT only sees the Next
partition as free space.... Help.
-Chaser
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenStep -> SAP/R3 Interface
Date: 15 Apr 1998 09:02:25 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / CC
Distribution: world
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References: <6h1hgj$1eg$1@hermes.is.co.za>
In article <6h1hgj$1eg$1@hermes.is.co.za> gvandyk@icon.co.za writes:
> Hi,
>
> We are looking for an interface between Openstep and SAP/R3. Is there
> anything out there that we we can have a look at?
There was/is some cute software from the german BIW AG to
connect NEXTSTEP and SAP/R3. They even have some kind of
InterfaceBuilder to rearrange the SAP screens and thus
customize the interface.
Unfortunately, I can't check the current status as their
web site is "optimized" for main stream browsers :-(
If you have a suitable plattform at hand, you might find
something at http://www.biw-ag.de/
Detlev
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From: Eric Hermanson <eric@alum.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 2-D Plotting for OpenStep?
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:12:03 -0700
Organization: Digital Universe Corporation
Message-ID: <35349602.34D58F2A@alum.mit.edu>
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Hello,
Can anyone recommend the top 3 commercial 2-D plotting packages for OpenStep? Ideally, the packages would ship with frameworks that
developers could use to incorporate plotting capability into YellowBox and maybe even WebObjects applications?
Thank You,
Eric
From: Paul Buckley<pb141@columbia.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why would a NeXT shut itself down, and how do I stop it?
Date: 15 Apr 1998 12:35:51 GMT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Message-ID: <6h29j7$4as$1@news6.ispnews.com>
References: <353151D8.91D3CA82@uiuc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <353151D8.91D3CA82@uiuc.edu>
On 04/12/98, Dave Wentzlaff wrote:
>Greetings,
>
> This is probably a dumb question, but I have noticed that my NeXT
>Color Turbo shuts itself down after a long period of no use. I don't
>want this to happen because I run a web server on it that I want to have
>running all of the time. I think it might only happen when it is at the
>login screen, but I am not sure. This might be a power saving feature,
>but I don't like it. If anybody has an idea how to fix this or if it is
>really my machine crashing, because it doesn't seem to properly
>shutdown, but rather just poof powers off, please e-mail or reply:)
>
>Thanks in advance,
>David Wentzlaff
>wentzlaf@uiuc.edu
>
>
When this was happening to me someone suggested a loose SIMM. I did not do a
lot of testing, but after changing the simms around the system didn't power
down during a three day test.
From: Paul Buckley<pb141@columbia.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Uses of dread and dwrite
Date: 15 Apr 1998 12:39:48 GMT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Message-ID: <6h29qk$4m4$1@news6.ispnews.com>
References: <6gs6mm$cas@slip.net> <6gt5t1$5cg$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
In-Reply-To: <6gt5t1$5cg$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
On 04/13/98, Timothy Luoma wrote:
>In <6gs6mm$cas@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
>> Supposed to allow a user to write to his NeXTDefault.L file
>> (try dread -l).
>>
>> How is this used?
>
>I'm not exactly sure what you mean.
>
>1) Do NOT NOT NOT try to edit that NeXTDefault.L or .D file by hand unless
>you want to lose all your dwrites.... (he said, having done it to himself)
>
>2) to see all your dwrites; use 'dread -l'
> to see for one app use 'dread -o APPNAME' such as 'dread -o Mail'
> to set a value use 'dwrite APPNAME dwritename dwritevalue' ...
>TjL
>
This method, as well as the Preferences module DefaultSystem, only reveal
defaults that have been set to something. I had the following lying around
when people were hunting down the unknown/unspecified defaults for primary
NS apps:
Finding Dwrites
There are several ways for finding the dwrites that an application can
be used. The brute-force method is to run 'strings' on the
executable, which will search the executable for text strings and
return all the matches. Needless to say, this returns a great deal
more than just the names of the dwrites.
The following gdb hack has also been posted (posted by Gerben Wierda,
from a mail message sent by Art Isbell):
---------------------
1. start the program you're interested in under gdb
(e.g. 'gdb /NextApps/Librarian.app/Librarian')
2. give gdb the following string of commands:
break *0x5082958
commands
silent
printf "NXRegisterDefaults(\"%s\", %p)\n", $d3, $d2
cont
end
break *0x50829f6
commands
silent
printf " %s: ", *$a3
output {char *}(4+$a3)
echo \n
cont
end
break *0x500b620
commands
silent
printf "NXGetDefaultValue(\"%s\", \"%s\") => ", $d4, $d3
output (char *)$d2
echo \ [registering]\n
cont
end
break *0x500b590
commands
silent
printf "NXGetDefaultValue(\"%s\", \"%s\") => ", $d4, $d3
output (char *)$d0
echo \n
cont
end
3. run application then quit after the defaults are printed.
From: Simon Wagner <arno_roggo@bluewin.ch>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS3.3 / masquerading / ip-proxy
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:52:33 +0200
Organization: Unisource Business Networks
Message-ID: <3534D7C1.ADCC5462@bluewin.ch>
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Hi there,
trying to reuse my cube with ns3.3... on my linux box, we have
masquerading, and I thought I'd ask around if something like it exists
also for my beloved cube.. 'coz I'd like to use it as my answering
machine and I don't want two modems lying around *g*
so, pointers to programs, drivers etc would be greatly appreciated!!!
(masquerading : having a server/router/gateway machine, which does the
dialup, and transparently provides access for a whole subnet that is
connected to it, without them having 'real' ip-adresses...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kjb@uts.amdahl.com (Kevin Barth)
Subject: Re: "find" in Improv
Message-ID: <ErGp3F.8AI@ccc.amdahl.com>
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References: <6h2dv7$h7k$1@nnrp2.dejanews.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:45:15 GMT
In article <6h2dv7$h7k$1@nnrp2.dejanews.com> spagiola@usa.net writes:
> kjb@uts.amdahl.com (Kevin Barth) wrote:
> > > Does Improv have a "find" feature? It would be really nice to
search a
> > > spreadsheet for entries containing specific words.
> >
> > Not that I know of (please post if you find out differently).
> > However, it isn't that hard to type command-a (select all), command-c
> > (copy), then click in a terminal window and type 'paste | grep -i
"that
> > string or word you were looking for"'.
>
> Yeah, I've done that too (usually using Edit rather than Terminal, but
same
> idea). But usually when I need to use find it's only the first part of
what I
> need to do. And this trick won't help with "... and replace"
No kidding....I couldn't agree with you more along those lines (although,
the ways I use a spreadsheet have never necessitated the need for that
type of operation).
I really like Improv, and use it extensively....but those days are going
quickly now....Yes, I can use my current models for as long as my hardware
lasts, but I wouldn't mind a bit more CPU power and the use of a software
product that is evolving and has a future....
I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if other nextstep spreadsheets
offered the capability, if you really needed it. Check out Mesa (Malcom
is a good contact at "mmalcolm crawford <Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk>" )
and others...
Good luck...
--
Regards,
Kevin Barth (kjb@amdahl.com) phone: +44-1252-346307
Open Systems Staff Support fax: +44-1252-346406
Amdahl Corporation
From: nurban@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 2-D Plotting for OpenStep?
Date: 15 Apr 1998 13:11:35 -0400
Organization: Data Systems Consulting, Inc.
Message-ID: <6h2po7$t30$1@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us>
References: <35349602.34D58F2A@alum.mit.edu>
In article <35349602.34D58F2A@alum.mit.edu>, Eric Hermanson <eric@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Can anyone recommend the top 3 commercial 2-D plotting packages for OpenStep?
> Ideally, the packages would ship with frameworks that developers could use to
> incorporate plotting capability into YellowBox and maybe even WebObjects
> applications?
You probably want to look at the OpenGraph stuff on VVI-DCS's web page:
http://www.vvi.com/
From: ottog@futon.sfsu.edu (Otto Grajeda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WTB: 2 modems for NeXT
Date: 15 Apr 1998 19:54:49 GMT
Organization: Sirius Connections
Message-ID: <6h33a9$6mt$1@news1.sirius.com>
Hello
I am interested in buying 2 modems for NeXT [please include cables]...
is any one selling this particular item ?
--
Otto Grajeda
Sirius Manager
From: spagiola@usa.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "find" in Improv
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:51:40 -0600
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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References: <6h2dv7$h7k$1@nnrp2.dejanews.com> <ErGp3F.8AI@ccc.amdahl.com>
kjb@uts.amdahl.com (Kevin Barth) wrote:
> I really like Improv, and use it extensively....but those days are going
> quickly now....Yes, I can use my current models for as long as my hardware
> lasts, but I wouldn't mind a bit more CPU power and the use of a software
> product that is evolving and has a future....
> I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if other nextstep spreadsheets
> offered the capability, if you really needed it. Check out Mesa (Malcom
> is a good contact at "mmalcolm crawford <Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk>" )
> and others...
Mesa does look promising, and I fully intend to buy it just as soon as I get
Rhapsody CR1. But for all its qualities, Mesa isn't equivalent to, or a
substitute for, Improv. Mesa is a standard spreadsheet -- a good one, which
I'm sure I'll use heavily, but still a standard spreadsheet. Improv is
something different, and has many uses for which a standard spreadsheet won't
do. Improv will be one of the things I miss most when my brave little NeXT
slab gets replaced by a Rhapsody box of some sort. I do hope someone comes up
with an Improv-like app for Rhapsody. Any budding developer out there looking
for a Rhapsody project?
Stefano Pagiola
My opinions alone
Longtime MacOS and NeXTSTEP user, reluctant Windows 95/NT user, future
Rhapsody user
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From: CatherineW@email.unc.edu
Subject: You Just Can't Lose
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: UNC
Message-ID: <35343ada.0@193.15.242.210>
Date: 15 Apr 98 04:43:06 GMT
So, do you want to make money? If you have ONLY US$6 or a bit more(6
stamps), you can do it!!!
*******************************************************
PLEASE READ ON ABOUT HOW TO BE SUCCESSFUL
*******************************************************
1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL??
I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I
would actually make any money but he said it WAS LEGAL if I wanted to
try it. I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter but the
details of the system (SEE BELOW) actually made it a legitimate legal
business.
2. Would the Post Office be ok with this....I called them:
1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! (See Title
18,h sections1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws). This clarifies the
program of collecting names and addresses for a mailing list.
3. Is this moral? Well, everyone who sends me a buck has a good
chance of getting A LOT of money ... a much better chance than buying
a lottery ticket!!!
============
HOW IT WORKS
============
Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:
STEP 1:
Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each
piece of paper:
PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST.
$1 US DOLLAR PROCESSING FEE IN ENCLOSED.
(THIS IS KEY AS THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT LEGAL SINCE YOU ARE PAYING FOR
AND LATER OFFERING A SERVICE).
Now get 6 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of
paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent
theft/robbery (Add one chemical paper for example;this will turn your
bill invisible and the letter still light).
Then, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and
seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece
of paper stating the above phrase and a U.S. $1.00 bill.
#1 Ronald Stevens
20 Lordly court
Kings Park NY 11754
USA
#2 J. Turley
P.O. Box 50604
Knoxville, TN 37950-0604
USA
#3 K. Agler
109 Fraternity Ct.
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
USA
#4 R Sauter
3500 Crescent Ct
Flower Mound, TX 75028
USA
#5 Catherine Watkins
P.O. Box 67
Chapel Hill, NC 27514-0067
USA
#6 Ryan
1201 Holleybank Dr.
Matthews, NC 28105
USA
STEP 2:
Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move
the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name
as number 6 on the list. (If you want to remain anonymous, put a
nickname, but the address MUST be correct. It, of course, MUST contain
your country, state/district/area, zip code, etc!!! You wouldn't want
your money to fly away, would you?!?!).
STEP 3:
Now post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups.
Remember, 200 postings is just a guideline. The more you post, the more
money you make!
NOTE:
IN MANY NEWSGROUPS THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DELETE THIS KIND OF MESSAGES
I RECOMEND YOU TO POST 1 OR EVEN 2 TIMES A WEEK TO 300 NEWSGROUPS SO OTHER
PEOPLE CAN SEE YOUR MESSAGES.THIS IS A WAY TO INCREASE THE
POSSIBILITIES
FOR YOU TO GET MORE MONEY!!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The TOP 200 newsgroups can be found at --->
www.op.net/usenet-stats.html
*** BOTS ***
Bots are small computer programs on a usenet server.
1) Bots look for certain characters in the "Subject:" field of your
newsgroup posting.
2) Bots also look for "multiple postings".
3) If a Bot discovers any of the above, it will delete your posting.
4) Then send you a nasty e-mail.
***OUTSMART THE BOTS***
1) You will make a lot MORE money if you outsmart the BOTS.
2) Post your message only ONCE.
3) Do NOT use characters such as (! $ % + # & * @ ?) in the "Subject"
field.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU
> WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**
> That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within
> day's! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large
> amount of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can
> invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it.
> **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.**
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
=================
Now the WHY part:
=================
Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low
example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now,
each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200
postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of
the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make
200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will
bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and
post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies
each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part,
each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at
#2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!!
Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups
with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will
receive $15,625,00! With a original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING!
And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is probable 20 to 30!
So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is
what you will make:
at #6 $15.00
at #5 $225.00
at #4 $3,375.00
at #3 $50,625.00
at #2 $759,375.00#1 $11,390,625.00
When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the
list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again.
The thing to remember is, do you realize that thousands of people all over
the world are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday,
JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So can you afford $6.00 and see if it really
works?? I think so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out
and no one sends you the money? What are the chances of that
happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people
who are joining the internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to
give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day,
with thousands of those joining the actual internet.
Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just have to
be honest.
** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages
with your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the
people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked
to knew someone who did that and she only made practically nothing, and that's
after seven or eight weeks! Then she sent the 6 $1.00 bills, people
added her to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks she had over $10k.
This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the
wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! You also
may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars.
Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW! Also, try to keep a
list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the
newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly.
Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the
basic idea to make the money!!
GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards
from this, which is tons of extra CASH.
Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again...
________________________________________________________________________
--
From: ejw@uclink.berkeley.ude (Earl Wagner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Linux + NEXTSTEP + Win95
Date: 15 Apr 1998 20:55:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <6h36rk$b9t$1@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <WwIY.209$BP5.2343434@news-read1.qis.net>
jmeacham@qis.net (James D. Meacham) wrote:
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>I'm getting a 3 gig IDE drive for my Dell P90. So I have two questions.
>First, will NS 4.2 work on this machine:
>
>Dell Dimension XPS P90 with 32 megs RAM, 1 520 meg IDE HD, 1 3 gig IDE HD, an
>IDE CD-ROM, etc. I don't have a SCSI board, but I've got a SCSI CD-ROM
>connected to my NeXT, which is currently networked via ethernet to the PC. I
>was figuring I'd do a network install, if that is possible.
>
Don't know about this one.
>Question two, which is really the one I need help with, 'cause I can look up
>question 1, is how to configure the hard drive. I was thinking that I could
>cut it even slices, put Linux on one, win95 on one and NS on one, and use
>LILO as the boot manager. Is it possible to use LILO to boot NeXTSTEP? If
>it isn't, what are the alternatives? Are there other freeware boot managers?
> This multi-OS thing is somewhat new to me, 'cause 'till now I just used
>NeXTSTEP, period. And if my black hardware wasn't aging, and if there was
>still support for it, I still would.
>
I also used to be NS-only guy. The speed of the color slab just doesn't cut it compared to a pentium. (for style,
though...)
I just set up a system in a similar way with NS 3.3, Red Hat Linux 5.0, and Win 95 OSR 2.
I have two 2GB SCSI drives with partitions as follows:
Drive 1 Size Drive2 Size
Linux / 125 MB NeXTStep Swap 256 MB
Linux Swap 125 MB Linux /home 250 MB
NeXTStep 1.3 GB Linux /usr 1.5 GB
Win 95 500 MB
The trick is to first do all the partitions with Linux's fdisk. I had problems with NS's and I've seen others suggest that
it may be flaky.
Then you install Win 95, telling it that you want the appropriate partition to be C:.
Then you install NS.
Then you install Linux. I use LILO and I've had no problems with it. I did the configuration at install time with RH's gui
installer. lilo.conf turned out just fine.
It almost goes without saying that you want each OS to be fully set up before moving on to the next one. In fact, you might
want to make sure that you can still get on the net with your NeXT. DejaNews and NeXTanswers are invaluable for dealing
with the problems that come up.
NB: I didn't set up the NS swap initially. Big mistake. Everything was working fine, only NS couldn't read the partition so
everytime I'd login, it would ask if I wanted to repair or initialize the disk. I wanted to use BuildDisk but it couldn't
handle the size. Finally I told it to try to repair it. The Linux partitions became trashed so once I set up the swap disk,
I reformatted them and reinstalled Linux.
Moral: Plan ahead and do everything at once.
Good Luck
-Earl
(address should end with .edu)
From: "M. Schwetterle" <mschwett@estec.esa.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Nextstep/Openstep & portable battery monitoring
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:09:50 +0200
Organization: Estec\ESA
Message-ID: <3534B19E.2A31@estec.esa.nl>
References: <352B1826.22C582B1@ne.mediaone.net> <35336f5f.0@maser.urz.unibas.ch>
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Hi,
On the way to install Openstep 4.2 on a Tecra 730CDT, I was wondering
how it can be possible to monitor the battery level, is there any
utility available ?
Regards,
Marc Schwetterle.
From: Christian Jensen <cejensen@winternet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WTB: 2 modems for NeXT
Date: 16 Apr 1998 00:05:05 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc
Sender: Christian Jensen <cejensen@winternet.com>
Message-ID: <6h3hvh$edv$1@blackice.winternet.com>
References: <6h33a9$6mt$1@news1.sirius.com>
ottog@futon.sfsu.edu (Otto Grajeda) wrote:
>I am interested in buying 2 modems for NeXT [please include cables]...
>is any one selling this particular item ?
You can use almost any modem for data, just be sure you have the right cable
(www.deepspacetech.com or www.orb.com will have these). If you want to fax,
you need to be a little more careful to choose a compatible modem; I'd
recommend a ZyXel. They're a little spendy, but very reliable. Avoid USR's.
--Chris
**************************
Chris Jensen
cejensen@winternet.com
MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger."
--Mark Twain
From: spagiola@usa.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "find" in Improv
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:50:10 -0600
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6h2dv7$h7k$1@nnrp2.dejanews.com>
References: <6gje1q$287i@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> <ErEE86.L83@ccc.amdahl.com>
kjb@uts.amdahl.com (Kevin Barth) wrote:
> > Does Improv have a "find" feature? It would be really nice to search a
> > spreadsheet for entries containing specific words.
>
> Not that I know of (please post if you find out differently).
> However, it isn't that hard to type command-a (select all), command-c
> (copy), then click in a terminal window and type 'paste | grep -i "that
> string or word you were looking for"'.
Yeah, I've done that too (usually using Edit rather than Terminal, but same
idea). But usually when I need to use find it's only the first part of what I
need to do. And this trick won't help with "... and replace"
Stefano Pagiola
My opinions alone
Longtime MacOS and NeXTSTEP user, reluctant Windows 95/NT user, future
Rhapsody user
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Followup-To: poster
From: Russell Schulz <casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG>
Subject: Re: NeXT software FAQ pointers are spam? (was Re: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer)
Message-ID: <19980416.014455.8J4.rnr.w164w@locutus.ofB.ORG>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:44:55 +0100
References: <E0y0BoQ-00024d-00@slip-3> <19980223.130406.9S0.rnr.w164w@locutus.ofB.ORG>
Organization: Private System, London SW19, UK
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Russell Schulz <casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG> writes:
> don't hide that black hardware!
>
> I would understand if c.s.n.software was getting 3 posts per month,
> and my pointer was 2 of them. I would understand if people thought
> it was too frequent (initially I posted the pointer weekly, now it's
> biweekly).
I've just made the (obvious) change so that the pointer is still posted
biweekly; but every two weeks the list of other groups is rotated, so no
group other than c.a.s itself should see it more than monthly (excepting
the groups that were posted to recently and will be on the first half of
the rotation the very next time it posts).
I hope this will be infrequent enough for everyone's tastes.
--
Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG Shad 86c
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc
Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets
From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG
Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer
Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets
Message-ID: <19980416.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG>
References: <19980409.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG>
Supersedes: <19980402.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG>
Date: 16 Apr 1998 00:00:00 +0100
Organization: Private System, London SW19, UK
Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer
Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer
Frequency: biweekly
Last-modified: 1997-Sep-02
FAQ-Last-modified: 1998-Apr-14
comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas
Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ
cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms.
The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all
news.answers access methods:
quoting the news.answers FAQ:
``
Where are *.answers archived?
All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting
archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the
anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers,
/pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name".
Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may
not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings),
saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name.
If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives
by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to
mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on
separate lines for more information.
''
The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets can be found on the Internet:
<ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
<http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: Timothy J Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid-address@luomat.peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS3.3 / masquerading / ip-proxy
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:47:41 -0400
Organization: @Home Network
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.980415124527.15895A-100000@luomat>
References: <3534D7C1.ADCC5462@bluewin.ch>
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This is fast becoming the most often asked FAQ.
There is no current way of doing NAT/Ip-Masq under NeXTStep/OpenStep.
You can setup a web proxy using apache, but that's a far cry short of real
NAT
I believe that kernel support has to be added... there is something called
'ip forwarding' but there's no way to use it to get at IP Masq that I am
aware of...
TjL, who would also like the feature
From: root@toneloc.ix.netcom.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help, applications will not launch
Date: 16 Apr 1998 05:12:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <6h43vj$8qr@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>
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I'm using NS 3.3 on Intel. Some apps will not
load; the app icon dims as it begins to load,
then reverts back as the program "quits".
I don't receive any error messages.
Any thoughts?
--
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help, applications will not launch
Date: 16 Apr 1998 05:08:18 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <6h43o2$frb$1@news.digifix.com>
References: <6h43vj$8qr@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>
In-Reply-To: <6h43vj$8qr@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>
On 04/15/98, Operator wrote:
>I'm using NS 3.3 on Intel. Some apps will not
>load; the app icon dims as it begins to load,
>then reverts back as the program "quits".
>
>I don't receive any error messages.
Could they be 68K binaries only?
--
Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com>
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: Andrew Malota <rinn_the_great@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where can I get a CDplayer program for NEXTSTEP 2.0
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:53:58 -0700
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas
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From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenStep -> SAP/R3 Interface
Date: 16 Apr 1998 08:19:58 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
Message-ID: <6h4eve$h46$1@leonie.object-factory.com>
References: <6h1hgj$1eg$1@hermes.is.co.za> <6h1t31$ei5$1@newshost>
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droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) wrote:
> > We are looking for an interface between Openstep and SAP/R3. Is there
> > anything out there that we we can have a look at?
>
> There was/is some cute software from the german BIW AG to connect
> NEXTSTEP and SAP/R3. [...] If you have a suitable plattform at hand, you
> might find something at http://www.biw-ag.de/
There's another SAP adaptor and as far as I understand this solution looks a
bit more promising. Anyway, have a look at http://www.advis.com/wosap.htm and
don't be mislead by the fact that they are talking about a "WebObjects
Adaptor" most of the time.
regards,
erik
--
Erik Dörnenburg - http://www.object-factory.com/~erik
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From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WTB: Create 4.0 License
Date: 16 Apr 1998 10:23:49 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Message-ID: <6h4m7l$9sp$8@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <6gkor3$4s$1@hermes.rhein-main.de>
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In <6gkor3$4s$1@hermes.rhein-main.de> Oskar Oehling wrote:
> Looking for Create 4.0 for openstep 4.2 on intel .. please make offer
>
Umm, you could try asking Stone Design:
http://www.stone.com/
Best wishes,
mmalc.
From: Robert Fischer <fischer@fokus.gmd.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Nextstep/Openstep & portable battery monitoring
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:25:28 +0200
Organization: GMD-FOKUS
Message-ID: <3535C078.E3970361@fokus.gmd.de>
References: <352B1826.22C582B1@ne.mediaone.net> <35336f5f.0@maser.urz.unibas.ch> <3534B19E.2A31@estec.esa.nl>
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M. Schwetterle wrote:
>
> Hi,
> On the way to install Openstep 4.2 on a Tecra 730CDT, I was wondering
> how it can be possible to monitor the battery level, is there any
> utility available ?
There is a level meter integrated into the Preferences icon. Very neat
indeed.
Robert
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From: CatherineW@icarus.com
Subject: You Just Can't Lose
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: ME
Message-ID: <3534c145.0@193.15.242.210>
Date: 15 Apr 98 14:16:37 GMT
So, do you want to make money? If you have ONLY US$6 or a bit more(6
stamps), you can do it!!!
*******************************************************
PLEASE READ ON ABOUT HOW TO BE SUCCESSFUL
*******************************************************
1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL??
I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I
would actually make any money but he said it WAS LEGAL if I wanted to
try it. I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter but the
details of the system (SEE BELOW) actually made it a legitimate legal
business.
2. Would the Post Office be ok with this....I called them:
1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! (See Title
18,h sections1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws). This clarifies the
program of collecting names and addresses for a mailing list.
3. Is this moral? Well, everyone who sends me a buck has a good
chance of getting A LOT of money ... a much better chance than buying
a lottery ticket!!!
============
HOW IT WORKS
============
Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:
STEP 1:
Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each
piece of paper:
PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST.
$1 US DOLLAR PROCESSING FEE IN ENCLOSED.
(THIS IS KEY AS THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT LEGAL SINCE YOU ARE PAYING FOR
AND LATER OFFERING A SERVICE).
Now get 6 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of
paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent
theft/robbery (Add colored paper for example;this will turn your
bill invisible and the letter still light).
Then, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and
seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece
of paper stating the above phrase and a U.S. $1.00 bill.
#1 Ronald Stevens
20 Lordly court
Kings Park NY 11754
USA
#2 J. Turley
P.O. Box 50604
Knoxville, TN 37950-0604
USA
#3 K. Agler
109 Fraternity Ct.
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
USA
#4 R Sauter
3500 Crescent Ct
Flower Mound, TX 75028
USA
#5 Catherine Watkins
P.O. Box 67
Chapel Hill, NC 27514-0067
USA
#6 Ryan
1201 Holleybank Dr.
Matthews, NC 28105
USA
STEP 2:
Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move
the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name
as number 6 on the list. (If you want to remain anonymous, put a
nickname, but the address MUST be correct. It, of course, MUST contain
your country, state/district/area, zip code, etc!!! You wouldn't want
your money to fly away, would you?!?!).
STEP 3:
Now post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups.
Remember, 200 postings is just a guideline. The more you post, the more
money you make!
NOTE:
IN MANY NEWSGROUPS THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DELETE THIS KIND OF MESSAGES
I RECOMEND YOU TO POST 1 OR EVEN 2 TIMES A WEEK TO 300 NEWSGROUPS SO OTHER
PEOPLE CAN SEE YOUR MESSAGES.THIS IS A WAY TO INCREASE THE
POSSIBILITIES
FOR YOU TO GET MORE MONEY!!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The TOP 200 newsgroups can be found at --->
www.op.net/usenet-stats.html
*** BOTS ***
Bots are small computer programs on a usenet server.
1) Bots look for certain characters in the "Subject:" field of your
newsgroup posting.
2) Bots also look for "multiple postings".
3) If a Bot discovers any of the above, it will delete your posting.
4) Then send you a nasty e-mail.
***OUTSMART THE BOTS***
1) You will make a lot MORE money if you outsmart the BOTS.
2) Post your message only ONCE.
3) Do NOT use characters such as (! $ % + # & * @ ?) in the "Subject"
field.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU
> WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**
> That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within
> day's! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large
> amount of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can
> invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it.
> **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.**
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
=================
Now the WHY part:
=================
Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low
example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now,
each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200
postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of
the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make
200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will
bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and
post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies
each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part,
each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at
#2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!!
Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups
with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will
receive $15,625,00! With a original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING!
And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is probable 20 to 30!
So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is
what you will make:
at #6 $15.00
at #5 $225.00
at #4 $3,375.00
at #3 $50,625.00
at #2 $759,375.00#1 $11,390,625.00
When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the
list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again.
The thing to remember is, do you realize that thousands of people all over
the world are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday,
JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So can you afford $6.00 and see if it really
works?? I think so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out
and no one sends you the money? What are the chances of that
happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people
who are joining the internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to
give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day,
with thousands of those joining the actual internet.
Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just have to
be honest.
** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages
with your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the
people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked
to knew someone who did that and she only made practically nothing, and that's
after seven or eight weeks! Then she sent the 6 $1.00 bills, people
added her to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks she had over $10k.
This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the
wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! You also
may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars.
Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW! Also, try to keep a
list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the
newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly.
Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the
basic idea to make the money!!
GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards
from this, which is tons of extra CASH.
Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again...
________________________________________________________________________
--
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "find" in Improv
Date: 16 Apr 1998 13:11:54 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <6h502q$44l$1@dropit.pgh.net>
References: <6h2dv7$h7k$1@nnrp2.dejanews.com> <ErGp3F.8AI@ccc.amdahl.com> <6h334c$kjt$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
There also is [gasp] Improv for Windows. I use it on my PC at the
office and at home. It has a scripting language, which I have yet to
learn. It also has the weakness of all PC apps I have seen of not
allowing one to use log scales that are not full cycles. In fact,
graphics in general are not as nice, EXCEPT, you can easily set up
two scales on a graph AND you can manipulate a date axis a lot
better.
spagiola@usa.net wrote:
> kjb@uts.amdahl.com (Kevin Barth) wrote:
> > I really like Improv, and use it extensively....but those days
are going
> > quickly now....Yes, I can use my current models for as long as my
hardware
> > lasts, but I wouldn't mind a bit more CPU power and the use of a
software
> > product that is evolving and has a future....
> > I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if other nextstep
spreadsheets
> > offered the capability, if you really needed it. Check out Mesa
(Malcom
> > is a good contact at "mmalcolm crawford
<Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk>" )
> > and others...
>
> Mesa does look promising, and I fully intend to buy it just as soon
as I get
> Rhapsody CR1. But for all its qualities, Mesa isn't equivalent to,
or a
> substitute for, Improv. Mesa is a standard spreadsheet -- a good
one, which
> I'm sure I'll use heavily, but still a standard spreadsheet. Improv
is
> something different, and has many uses for which a standard
spreadsheet won't
> do. Improv will be one of the things I miss most when my brave
little NeXT
> slab gets replaced by a Rhapsody box of some sort. I do hope
someone comes up
> with an Improv-like app for Rhapsody. Any budding developer out
there looking
> for a Rhapsody project?
>
> Stefano Pagiola
> My opinions alone
> Longtime MacOS and NeXTSTEP user, reluctant Windows 95/NT user,
future
> Rhapsody user
>
>
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please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: "HECTOR" <Hector@cableinet.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,comp.sys.pc.hardware
Subject: TRY THIS AND BE AMAZED!!!!!!!!1
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:59:16 +0100
Message-ID: <35362f99.0@ispc-news.cableinet.net>
Organization: "Cable Internet (post doesn't reflect views of Cable Internet)"
It is really possible! People claim to make almost $50K in just 4
weeks! It may be hard to believe, but read on . . .
(For $6 and 6 stamps, it might be worth a try)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like
you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you
could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial
investment of $6.00! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam!"
But like most of us, I was curious. Like most of us, I kept reading.
Anyway, it said that if you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and
addresses stated in the article, you could make thousands in a very
short period of time. You then place your own name and address at the
bottom of the list at #6, and post the article to at least 200
newsgroups. (There are about 22,000.) or e-mail them to friends, or
e-mailing lists...
No catch, that was it.
Even though the investment was a measly $6, I had three questions that
needed to be answered before I could get involved in this sort of
thing.
1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL?
I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I
would actually make any money but he said it WAS LEGAL if I wanted to
try it. I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter but the
details of the system (SEE BELOW) actually made it a legitimate legal
business.
2. Would the Post Office be ok with this...?
I called them: 1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS ABSOLUTELY
LEGAL! (See Title 18,h sections 1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws).
This clarifies the program of collecting names and addresses for a
mailing list.
3. Is this moral?
Well, everyone who sends me a buck has a good chance of getting A LOT
of money ... a much better chance than buying a lottery ticket!
So, having these questions answered, I invested EXACTLY $7.92 ... six
$1.00 bills and six 32 cent postage stamps ... and boy am I glad I
did! Within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was
shocked! I still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it another
thought. But the money just continued coming in. In my first week, I
made about $20.00 to $30.00 dollars. By the end of the second week I
had a mad total of $1,000.00! In the third week I had over $10,000.00
and it was still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a
total of just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in.....
It's certainly worth $6.00 and 6 stamps!
So now I'm reposting this so I can make even more money! The *ONLY*
thing stopping *ANYONE* from enriching their own bank account is pure
laziness! It took me all of 5 MINUTES to print this out, follow the
directions, and begin posting to newsgroups. It took me a mere 45
minutes to post to over 200 newsgroups. And for this GRAND TOTAL
investment of $ 7.92 (US) and under ONE HOUR of my time, I have reaped
an incredible amount of money -- like nothing I've ever even heard of
anywhere before!
'Nuff said!
Let me tell you how this works, and most importantly, why it works.
Also, make sure you print a copy of this article now, so you can get
the information off of it when you need it. The process is very simple
and consists of THREE easy steps.
============
HOW IT WORKS
============
STEP 1:
------
Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece
of paper:
PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST.
$1 US DOLLAR PROCESSING FEE IS ENCLOSED.
Your name and address.
(THIS IS KEY AS THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT LEGAL SINCE YOU ARE PAYING FOR
AND LATER OFFERING A SERVICE).
Now get 6 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of
paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent
theft/robbery. Then, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and
seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece
of paper stating the above phrase and an U.S. $1.00 bill.
Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:
1 - K. Uppermann
2330 Vehicle Dr. #148
Rancho Cordova, CA 95670
2- Occupant
P.O. Box 5258
Quincy, Il. 62305-5258
3- M Afandi M Saman
No. 9, Lorong 8, Taman Mewah
08000 Sungai Petani
Kedah, Malaysia
4- J Wilhelm
3507 Del Lago Cir #305
Tampa FL 33614
5- Y.H. Sohn
C.P.O. Box 7469,
Chung-Ku, Seoul, Korea 100-674
6- Hector
108 Poolstock
Wigan
Lancs
United Kingdom
WN3 5EW
STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc.) and add YOUR Name as
number 6 on the list. (If you want to remain anonymous put a
nickname, but the address MUST be correct. It, of course, MUST contain
your country, state/district/area, zip code, etc! You wouldn't want
your money to fly away, would you?).
STEP 3: Now post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups.
Remember that 200 postings are just a guideline. The more you post,
the more money you make!
Don't know HOW to post in the news groups? Well do exactly the
following:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS FAST WITH YOUR WEB BROWSER:
The fastest way to post a newsletter: Highlight and COPY
(Ctrl-C) the text of this posted message and PASTE (Ctrl-V) it into a
plain text editor (as Wordpad) and save it. After you have made the
necessary changes that are stated above, simply COPY (Ctrl-C) and
PASTE (Ctrl-V) the text into the message composition window, after
selecting a newsgroup, and post it! (Or you can attach the file,
without writing anything to the message window.)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you have Netscape Navigator 3.0 do the following:
1. Click on any newsgroup like normal, then click on 'TO NEWS'. This
will bring up a box to type a message in.
2. Leave the newsgroup box like it is, change the subject box to
something flashy, something to catch the eye, as "$$$ NEED CASH $$$?
READ HERE! $! $!$" Or "$$$! MAKE FAST CASH, YOU CAN'T LOSE! $$$". Or
you can use my subject title.
3. Now click on 'ATTACHMENTS'. Then click on 'ATTACH FILE'. Find your
file on your Hard Disk (the one you saved from the text editor). Once
you find it, click on it and then click 'OPEN' and 'OK'. You should
now see your file name in the attachments box.
4. Now click on 'SEND'/'POST'. You see? Now you just have 199 to go!
(Don't worry, it's easy and quick once you get used to it.) NOTE: All
the versions of Netscape Navigator's are similar to each other, so
you'll have no problem to do this if you don't have Netscape Navigator
3.0.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
! QUICK TIP!
(For Netscape Navigator 3.x and above)
You can post this message to many newsgroups at a time, by simply
selecting a newsgroup near the top of the screen, hold down the SHIFT,
and then select a newsgroup near the bottom of the screen. All of the
newsgroups in/between will be selected. After that, you follow/do the
basic steps, stated below at this letter, except of step #1. You can
go to the page stated below in this letter and click on a newsgroup to
open up the newsgroups window. Once you've done this, in the same
window go to 'OPTIONS', and then mark 'SHOW ALL NEWSGROUPS' and 'SHOW
ALL MESSAGES'. Now you can see all the newsgroups and you can apply
easier the above tip.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you have MS Internet Explorer do the following:
1. Go to the newsgroups and press 'POST AN ARTICLE'. To the new window
type your headline in the subject area and then click in the large
window below. There either PASTE your letter (which it's been copied
from the text editor), or attach the file which contains it.
2. Then click on 'SEND' or 'OK'. NOTE: All versions of MS Internet
Explorer are similar to each other, so you won't have any problem
doing this.
GENERAL NOTES ON POSTING: A nice page where you'll find all the
newsgroups if you want help is http://www.liszt.com/ (When you go to
the home page, click on the link 'Newsgroup Directory'). But I don't
think you'll have any problem posting because it's very easy once
you've found the newsgroups. All these web browsers are similar. It
doesn't matter which one you have. (But it makes it very easy if you
have Netscape Navigator 3.0 or later. You may download it from the
Internet if you don't have it.) You just have to remember the basic
steps, stated below.
BASIC STEPS FOR POSTING:
1. Find a newsgroup and you click on it.
2. You click on 'POST AN/NEW ARTICLE' or 'TO NEWS' or anything else
similar to these.
3. You type your flashy headline in the subject box.
4. Now, either you attach the file containing your amended letter, or
you PASTE the letter. (You have to COPY it from the text editor, of
course, from before.)
5. Finally, you click on 'SEND' or 'POST' or 'OK', whatever is there.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL
MAKE! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**
That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within
days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large
amount of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can
invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it.
**JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT. **
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
ANOTHER EXCELLENT PROGRAM: "AutoPoster" http://www.spck.se/bulk/
MULTIPLE POSTING ON HUNDEREDS OF NEWSGROUPS AT ONCE . The worlds most
effective AutoPoster to Internets newsgroups!
A high speed Newsgroup Auto Poster/Newsreader for Windows 95 Autopost
articles to more than 27,000 newsgroups Super fast - up to 12,000
posting per hour on a single PC Easy to run
Built in Special Functions such as:
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Rotate Unlimited Postings
Group Postings
Force Hits
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
=================
Now the WHY part:
=================
Out of 200 postings; say I receive only 5 replies (a very low
example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now,
each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200
postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each
of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each
make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I
will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn
around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5
replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the
fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my
name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me
$3,125.00! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200
newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200
newsgroups react I will receive $15,625,00! With an original
investment of only $6.00! AMAZING!
And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average are probable
20 to 30! So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per person.
Here is what you will make:
at #6 $15.00
at #5 $225.00
at #4 $3,375.00
at #3 $50,625.00
at #2 $759,375.00
at #1 $11,390,625.00
When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the
list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again.
The thing to remember is, do you realize that thousands of people all
over the world are joining the internet and reading these articles
everyday, JUST LIKE YOU are now! So can you afford $6.00 and see if it
really works? I think so... People have said, "what if the plan is
played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the
chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and
new honest people who are joining the internet and newsgroups everyday
and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000
new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual
Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You
just have to be honest.
By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with
your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the
people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked
to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and
that's after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 6 $1.00 bills,
people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k.
This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the
wealth of the world without costing anything but our time! You also
may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars. Make sure
you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list of
everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroups
to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember that HONESTY IS THE
BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the basic idea to make the money!
GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from
this, which is tons of extra CASH. Please remember to declare your
extra income. Thanks once again...
=====================================================================
LEGAL? ? ? (Comments from Bob Novak who started this new version.)
"People have asked me if this is really legal. Well, it is! You are
using the Internet to advertise you business. What is that business?
You are assembling a mailing list of people who are interested in home
based computer and online business and methods of generating income at
home. Remember that people send you a small fee to be added to your
mailing list. It is legal. What will you do with your list of
thousands of names?
Compile all of them into a database and sell them as "Mailing Lists"
on the internet in a similar manner, if you wish, and make more
money. How do you think you get all the junk mail that you do? Credit
card companies, mail order, Utilities, anyone you deal with through
the mail can sell your name and address on a mailing list, unless you
ask them not to, in addition to there regular business, So, why not do
the same with the list you collect. You can find more info about
"Mailing Lists" on the internet using any search engine..." So, build
your mailing list, keep good accounts, declare the income and pay your
taxes. By doing this you prove your business intentions. Keep an eye
on the newsgroups and when the cash has stopped coming (that means
your name is no longer on the list), you just take the latest posting
at the newsgroups, send another $6.00 to the names stated on the list,
make your corrections (put your name at #6) and start posting again.
=====================================================================
NOTES:
*1. In some countries, the export of the country's exchange is
illegal. But you can get the license to do this from the post office,
explaining the above statements (that you have an online business,
etc. You may have to pay an extra tax, but that's OK, the amount of
the incoming money is HUGE! And as I said, a few countries have that
restriction.
*2. You may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars.
(Or Database or Spreadsheet software.)
*3. If you're really not sure or still think this can't be for real,
please print a copy of this article and pass it along to someone who
really needs the money, and see what happens.
*4. You will start getting responses within 1-2 weeks, it depends.
From: ttnnbfla@news.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Do you want ALL 30,000 + Newsgroups ?
Date: 16 Apr 1998 18:46:39 GMT
Organization: Strictly Uniform
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Subject: 30,000 Newsgroups including 'banned' ones available
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From: carl@einstein.ucr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WP printing problem
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:14:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <980416121405.426AAFpE.carl@einstein>
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Hi out there,
Yesterday my WordPerfect 1.01 (intel, june '93 version) couldn't print,
giving me a message that it couldn't connect to the printer daemon. I use
JetPilot to print on a sh*tty HP LJ5L. Rebooting seems to have cleared the
problem, but does anyone know what may have caused it? And is there a
solution easier than rebooting?
Thanks,
Carl
*********************************
* Carl Hoefer *
* Philosophy Dept. *
* UC Riverside *
* *
* carl@einstein.ucr.edu *
*********************************
From: Wendy Urban <wurban@hers.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OneVision
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:54:10 +0000
Organization: Heller Information Services, Inc.
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Hi all -
Does anyone have any experience with OneVision? Is it a decent
application? Moreover, does anyone have a copy they want to sell? I've
tried contacting OneVision several times via email, but they have
ignored my requests. Thanks in advance...
Royce
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: root@toneloc.ix.netcom.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help, applications will not launch
Date: 17 Apr 1998 01:07:56 GMT
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Message-ID: <6h6a1c$10g@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>
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In <6h43o2$frb$1@news.digifix.com> Scott Anguish wrote:
> On 04/15/98, Operator wrote:
> >I'm using NS 3.3 on Intel. Some apps will not
> >load; the app icon dims as it begins to load,
> >then reverts back as the program "quits".
> >
> >I don't receive any error messages.
>
> Could they be 68K binaries only?
>
>
>
No, the installer program lists the software "for Intel" . . .
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Nextstep/Openstep & portable battery monitoring
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 17 Apr 1998 10:30:38 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6h7b0e$eua1@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <352B1826.22C582B1@ne.mediaone.net> <35336f5f.0@maser.urz.unibas.ch> <3534B19E.2A31@estec.esa.nl> <3535C078.E3970361@fokus.gmd.de>
Robert Fischer (fischer@fokus.gmd.de) wrote:
: M. Schwetterle wrote:
: >
: > Hi,
: > On the way to install Openstep 4.2 on a Tecra 730CDT, I was wondering
: > how it can be possible to monitor the battery level, is there any
: > utility available ?
:
: There is a level meter integrated into the Preferences icon. Very neat
: indeed.
which basically means to select another clock symbol in the Preferences.app
by clicking on the symbol, until an icon with a battery level meter bar in
it shows up. Just in case you're lost with the above answer :-).
Greetings,
Ruediger Oberhage
--
H.-R. Oberhage
Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Getting fonts to show up?
Date: 17 Apr 1998 11:16:22 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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References: <1998Apr13.123422.1@spcvxa.spc.edu> <6gtjeq$a16$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
BUILDAFMDIR(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual BUILDAFMDIR(1)
NAME
buildafmdir - builds font index information
hope that helps
daniel
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OneVision
Message-ID: <1998041714490100.KAA21604@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 17 Apr 1998 14:49:01 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <353629A0.7DFA@hers.com>
There's a book about it with a demo version available at Amazon.com. I believe
the subject is DigiScript.
No experience with it though. Sorry.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: rfuller@genre.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Time
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:51:29 -0600
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I was wonder how I could get a copy of this app. Any suggestions?
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From: heisbeee@avocado.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (Jens Heise)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to compile gnu tar-1.12
Date: 18 Apr 1998 00:32:56 +0200
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References: <6g9i2h$7ta@wolf.tela.com>
In article <6g9i2h$7ta@wolf.tela.com>, <mike@t-e-l-a.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am getting the following error when trying to compile gnu tar-1.12 on
>NS3.3:
>
>buffer.c: In function `close_archive':
>buffer.c:1416: warning: passing arg 1 of `wait' from incompatible pointer
>type
>buffer.c:1421: request for member `w_S' in something not a structure or union
>buffer.c:1421: request for member `w_T' in something not a structure or union
>buffer.c: In function `new_volume':
>buffer.c:1634: warning: passing arg 1 of `wait' from incompatible pointer
>type
>
>Does anyone have a patch or working makefile?
>Thanks
>
>--
>Mike Selner
>mike@t-e-l-a.com
>remove -'s to reply
>
Hi,
I solved this problem some time ago. There are several things to do to get
gnutar work correct on NeXTStep/Openstep and use all its features:
Changes on tar version 1.12 to build correct under NeXTStep 3.3:
in config.h:
- HAVE_UNION_WAIT must be defined explicitely in "config.h":
#define HAVE_UNION_WAIT 1
in src/system.h:
- although the macro S_ISLNK does not exist lstat should not be defined as
stat because on NeXT systems lstat exists, but not the macro S_ISLNK.
If lstat is redefined then tar cannot resolve whenever a file is a symbolic
link or not:
old line:
#ifndef S_ISLNK
correct line:
#if !defined(S_ISLNK) && !defined(_NEXT_SOURCE)
thats all. Hope this will do it.
Jens.
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
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Subject: Re: How to compile gnu tar-1.12
Date: 17 Apr 1998 23:03:55 GMT
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FYI there's a compiled binary (with bzip support) at
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TjL
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From: Royce Priem <priem@his.com>
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Subject: WTB:OneVision
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:15:44 +0000
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Hello all -
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on the ftp sites, that is licensed that they want to sell? Any leads
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance...
Regards,
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From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why would a NeXT shut itself down, and how do I stop it?
Date: 18 Apr 1998 01:00:58 GMT
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References: <353151D8.91D3CA82@uiuc.edu> <6h29j7$4as$1@news6.ispnews.com>
>On 04/12/98, Dave Wentzlaff wrote:
>>Greetings,
>>
>> This is probably a dumb question, but I have noticed that my NeXT
>>Color Turbo shuts itself down after a long period of no use. I don't
>>want this to happen because I run a web server on it that I want to have
>>running all of the time. I think it might only happen when it is at the
>>login screen, but I am not sure. This might be a power saving feature,
>>but I don't like it. If anybody has an idea how to fix this or if it is
>>really my machine crashing, because it doesn't seem to properly
>>shutdown, but rather just poof powers off, please e-mail or reply:)
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>David Wentzlaff
>>wentzlaf@uiuc.edu
>>
When this happens on my wife's Turbo Color, it is usually an overheated
problem as I just need to blow the dust out with
those canned air cans of off the power supply fins,
and everything will back up fine for another 2 months.
This thing never happened on my Turbo Color, probably different location
in the same house has a different dust concentration.
(and yes, both has 21in monitors, so we won't get jealous ;)
TTFN,
Paulus
(glad that my newsserver is up again;)
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Subject: linux
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Earl Wagner wrote:
>
> jmeacham@qis.net (James D. Meacham) wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I'm getting a 3 gig IDE drive for my Dell P90. So I have two questions.
> >First, will NS 4.2 work on this machine:
> >
> >Dell Dimension XPS P90 with 32 megs RAM, 1 520 meg IDE HD, 1 3 gig IDE HD, an
> >IDE CD-ROM, etc. I don't have a SCSI board, but I've got a SCSI CD-ROM
> >connected to my NeXT, which is currently networked via ethernet to the PC. I
> >was figuring I'd do a network install, if that is possible.
> >
>
> Don't know about this one.
>
> >Question two, which is really the one I need help with, 'cause I can look up
> >question 1, is how to configure the hard drive. I was thinking that I could
> >cut it even slices, put Linux on one, win95 on one and NS on one, and use
> >LILO as the boot manager. Is it possible to use LILO to boot NeXTSTEP? If
> >it isn't, what are the alternatives? Are there other freeware boot managers?
> > This multi-OS thing is somewhat new to me, 'cause 'till now I just used
> >NeXTSTEP, period. And if my black hardware wasn't aging, and if there was
> >still support for it, I still would.
> >
>
> I also used to be NS-only guy. The speed of the color slab just doesn't cut it compared to a pentium. (for style,
> though...)
>
> I just set up a system in a similar way with NS 3.3, Red Hat Linux 5.0, and Win 95 OSR 2.
>
> I have two 2GB SCSI drives with partitions as follows:
>
> Drive 1 Size Drive2 Size
> Linux / 125 MB NeXTStep Swap 256 MB
> Linux Swap 125 MB Linux /home 250 MB
> NeXTStep 1.3 GB Linux /usr 1.5 GB
> Win 95 500 MB
>
> The trick is to first do all the partitions with Linux's fdisk. I had problems with NS's and I've seen others suggest that
> it may be flaky.
>
> Then you install Win 95, telling it that you want the appropriate partition to be C:.
>
> Then you install NS.
>
> Then you install Linux. I use LILO and I've had no problems with it. I did the configuration at install time with RH's gui
> installer. lilo.conf turned out just fine.
>
> It almost goes without saying that you want each OS to be fully set up before moving on to the next one. In fact, you might
> want to make sure that you can still get on the net with your NeXT. DejaNews and NeXTanswers are invaluable for dealing
> with the problems that come up.
>
> NB: I didn't set up the NS swap initially. Big mistake. Everything was working fine, only NS couldn't read the partition so
> everytime I'd login, it would ask if I wanted to repair or initialize the disk. I wanted to use BuildDisk but it couldn't
> handle the size. Finally I told it to try to repair it. The Linux partitions became trashed so once I set up the swap disk,
> I reformatted them and reinstalled Linux.
>
> Moral: Plan ahead and do everything at once.
>
> Good Luck
>
> -Earl
> (address should end with .edu)
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From: nurban@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (Nathan Urban)
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Subject: TeX, BlueSky/BaKoMa fonts
Date: 18 Apr 1998 16:25:08 -0400
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I downloaded and installed the BlueSky font package in
/LocalLibrary/Fonts. I've also got BaKoMa installed in
/LocalLibrary/Fonts/Bakoma. I'm using the TeXEdit/TeXWorks/TeXview
combo to do LaTeX editing.
Several questions: how do I switch back and forth between using the
original bitmap PK fonts, the BlueSky fonts, and the BaKoMa fonts?
I dug up an example somewhere of doing:
\font\myfont=ptmr at 12pt
\myfont
and that seems to change the font when I try it, but I'm not sure which
font it's using. Also, it doesn't seem to change _all_ of the fonts in
the document, just that one (i.e., the boldface and math fonts stay the
same.. or at least it looks that way to me when I preview it..). How can
I switch _all_ of them at once, from (say) using the PK Computer Modern
fonts exclusively to using the BlueSky Computer Modern fonts exclusively?
I don't know how to specify the paths. The BlueSky README also says
"If you were already using another set of postscript Computer Modern
fonts, such as Bakoma, you'll need to edit config.ps by hand to comment
out or remove the old mapfile." I don't think I did this. Where's the
config.ps file? Does this mean that I have to edit that file if I want
to switch between the three fonts?
Another question: how can I get all of the fonts embedded in the
resulting PostScript file? I don't want to embed fonts for PostScript
files I'm using locally, since I have the fonts, but I do want to embed
them for files I want to give to someone else, so they won't have to
install the fonts. Right now, I've been generating PostScript files
by bringing up the TeXview print panel, selecting Save..., and choosing
"Normal Device-Independent PostScript". Does that embed fonts or not, and
regardless of which it does, how do I do the other? (There is a Chosen
Printer / Include Fonts, but I don't want to choose a specific printer.)
A quick response would be appreciated, since I'm trying to get a file
to someone. (Whatever I generated before didn't seem to include the
necessary fonts, the math stuff is all screwed up when they preview it.)
Feel free to post here, but also Cc: it to nurban@vt.edu.
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Hello all -
I'm looking for the version of Renderman or other animation packages
that ran under NS 3.3. If anyone has a copy they would like to sell or
trade, please contact me. Thanks in advance...
Regards,
Royce
From: Greg de Freitas <greg@uniques.globalnet.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need 3.3 Moto Boot Floppy contents
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 03:24:17 +0100
Organization: Hollywood Computing ltd.
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http://enterprise.apple.com/cgi-bin/NABrowse?/NEXTSTEP/Floppy_Images
--
Ciao 4 now, Greg.
# Home Page : http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~uniques/ #
# Email : mailto:greg@uniques.globalnet.co.uk #
# To Live, To Love, To Learn, To Leave A Legacy. #
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From: briana@snip.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newbie needs help
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:26:42 -0600
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6hbqth$gkk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
I needed help with NeXTstep. Sorry if these are FAQs...
1. Is it OK to log in as root? I'm the only one using my slab, I want to have
total access to everything. Should I log in as root or can I create a user
account that has full access rights?
2. How can I keep an app's icon in the dock? I drag an icon over to the dock,
but then the next time I log in the icon is gone. I also set for this app to
be automatically started at login but this doesn't happen either.
3. How can I put my picture into Mail.app? I have a .tiff picture of myself,
how can I add it so that it appears in Mail.app? How do I see other peoples
pics?
TIA,
Brian
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <5697892353623@digifix.com>
Date: 19 Apr 1998 03:50:14 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <23877892958423@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Rapsody to provide NXHost ?
Date: 19 Apr 1998 05:47:28 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <6hc35g$fmb$1@news.digifix.com>
References: <6hc1i5$i6f@slip.net>
In-Reply-To: <6hc1i5$i6f@slip.net>
On 04/18/98, Emmett McLean wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have a ND machine with two 21" monitors
>and I'd like to run a Java/JavaScript
>enabled browser on a faster machine.
>
>Ah, I understand the people at OmniWeb
>are looking at integrating JavaScript
>into Omniweb, but does anyone know if
>Rapsody, or its next incarnation due
>late this summer, will provide NXHosting?
>
I would think that it would.. but I doubt that you'd be able
to NSHost Rhapsody apps on Next boxes.. I expect the Windowserver will
have more capabilities on Rhapsody, and so the older OS on the Next
box would barf.
>Also, will some Java development tools
>be available for prices individual
>developers can afford?
>
Well... There is always Metrowerks..
>Ah, might I be able to NXHost to a
>Linux box and use Netscape?
>
No.. but you could perhaps run X and access Netscape running
on the Linux box that way
--
Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com>
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Rapsody to provide NXHost ?
Date: 18 Apr 1998 22:20:05 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6hc1i5$i6f@slip.net>
Hi,
I have a ND machine with two 21" monitors
and I'd like to run a Java/JavaScript
enabled browser on a faster machine.
Ah, I understand the people at OmniWeb
are looking at integrating JavaScript
into Omniweb, but does anyone know if
Rapsody, or its next incarnation due
late this summer, will provide NXHosting?
Also, will some Java development tools
be available for prices individual
developers can afford?
Ah, might I be able to NXHost to a
Linux box and use Netscape?
Thanks,
Emmett
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OneVision is:
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:21:07 +0200
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Message-ID: <6hcrc7$2va$1@goof.de.uu.net>
References: <353629A0.7DFA@hers.com>
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edit any PostScript file.
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newbie needs help
Date: 19 Apr 1998 15:09:07 GMT
Organization: none
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Cc: briana@snip.net
In <6hbqth$gkk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> briana@snip.net wrote:
> 1. Is it OK to log in as root? I'm the only one using my slab, I want to
have
> total access to everything. Should I log in as root or can I create a user
> account that has full access rights?
You should make an account for yourself, something like 'briana' and put that
user in the group 'wheel'
Logging in as root is a bad idea because it is too easy to make a fatal
mistake (ie one that does serious damage to your system. This is not just
for Unix newbies. I've been using NeXTStep for 7 years and I still don't
login as root.
There is a program called 'asroot' which you can use to make life a little
easier, and 'OpenSesame.app' will allow you to open a specific app as 'root'
while in your regular account. These are all you need.
> 2. How can I keep an app's icon in the dock? I drag an icon over to the
dock,
> but then the next time I log in the icon is gone. I also set for this app
to
> be automatically started at login but this doesn't happen either.
This sounds like there is some problem with your $HOME account being
mis-defined.
After you create an account for yourself, see if it works any better. If
not, drop me an email and I'll try to help you whack it into shape.
> 3. How can I put my picture into Mail.app? I have a .tiff picture of
myself,
> how can I add it so that it appears in Mail.app? How do I see other
peoples
> pics?
What version of NeXTStep are you using? If you are using NS 3.3 or higher
(OpenStep) then you can use the EnhanceMail.bundle:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.1.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
And turn on X-Image and X-Face support.
You can also (in addition or instead) use the MailTIFF database, see here:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/MailTIFF.database/
Your Tiff should be 48x48 pixels. You can submit your tiff to the database
and then other folks can see your picture as well.
Hope that helps.... Feel free to drop me a note if you have more questions.
TjL
--
[Yes that is a valid mail address, until it gets spammed]
Unofficial @Home FAQ: http://members.home.com/faqs/
Who decided we _wanted_ a Tarzan for the 90s?
From: zan <zanman@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenStep for Mach 4.2 and SMP?
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:32:12 -0400
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <353A18FC.7C6F295F@earthlink.net>
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I am going to be getting a dual PII system in three months to run BeOS,
Linux, and NeXTStep. Will NeXTStep "take advantage" of dual CPUs or do
applications have to be written to take advantage of them like in MacOS?
From: u@canguess.com
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Rapsody to provide NXHost ?
Date: 19 Apr 1998 09:49:44 -0700
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Hi,
Scott wrote :
> I would think that it would.. but I doubt that you'd be able
>to NSHost Rhapsody apps on Next boxes.. I expect the Windowserver will
>have more capabilities on Rhapsody, and so the older OS on the Next
>box would barf.
>
I wouldn't assume this.
>
> No.. but you could perhaps run X and access Netscape running
>on the Linux box that way
I'd imagine X11R6 would be necessary for Netscape.
The lastest version of co-Xist was X11R4.
Does anyone know what the latest X is for CubX?
Also, co-Xist is so slow I'd have doubts about whether any
X server would handle it.
Any comments?
Thanks,
Emmett
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Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach 4.2 and SMP?
Date: 19 Apr 1998 19:39:49 GMT
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In <353A18FC.7C6F295F@earthlink.net> zan wrote:
> I am going to be getting a dual PII system in three months to run BeOS,
> Linux, and NeXTStep. Will NeXTStep "take advantage" of dual CPUs or do
> applications have to be written to take advantage of them like in MacOS?
>
>
NO...NeXTstep will not take advance of the other processor. Although, Apple
has said that they will support SMP in later versions of Rhapsody, currently
no such support is available for NeXTstep or OpenStep.
Jay Lee
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Subject: Language Support!
Date: 19 Apr 1998 19:37:17 GMT
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I was wondering, if there was any ways to run, for example a Japanese version
of Radical News without Japanese support. Most likely, it wouldn't not work,
are there any work arounds. Even, in Windows, when you excute a Japanese or
other language binaries, you would not get the fonts to display, but the
binary itself would excute, this doesn't seem to be the case with NeXT /OS.
Just looking for more information. Thanks in advance.
Jay Lee
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From: nospam@nexusgate.oche.de (Michael Pieper, yes, this is a valid address)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newbie needs help
Date: 19 Apr 1998 12:35:12 GMT
Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany
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briana@snip.net wrote:
>1. Is it OK to log in as root? I'm the only one using my slab, I want to
>have total access to everything. Should I log in as root or can I create a
>user account that has full access rights?
It is never a good idea to work as root if you don't need to. You can do
everything and you can destroy everything even faster.
I have created an working account for me and added it to the "wheel" group.
This way you can only destroy your personal work and not the system. If you
need to, you can become root by the su command or OpenSesam.app very fast.
It makes no sense to create an account with root priviliges. It's the same
as working as root directly.
>2. How can I keep an app's icon in the dock? I drag an icon over to the
>dock, but then the next time I log in the icon is gone. I also set for this
>app to be automatically started at login but this doesn't happen either.
Does this only happen, when you work as root? I guess it's because of a
wrong setting of your home directory. This should be /. YOu should set it
using NetinfoManager, UserManagerdoes not handle your root account correctly.
Michael
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From: Wesley Horner <wesman@azrael.uoregon.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach 4.2 and SMP?
Date: 19 Apr 1998 22:44:27 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene
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zan <zanman@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I am going to be getting a dual PII system in three months to run BeOS,
> Linux, and NeXTStep. Will NeXTStep "take advantage" of dual CPUs or do
> applications have to be written to take advantage of them like in MacOS?
I don't think there is any way to take advantage of a second processor in
NeXTStep. Rhapsody should have this functionality at some point.
wes
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From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MaILquestion
Date: 19 Apr 1998 22:49:11 GMT
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I have plugged my NeXTstation into the engineering network (a
Sun network) here at Brown University. I can use OmniWeb and
I can telnet and ftp from the Terminal window.
How can I use the Mail Application to send and/or receive mail?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Andrew
andrew@cfm.brown.edu
(401) 861-MATH
Machine NeXTstation Turbo
O.S. NeXTstep 3.3
MachineNaME onyx
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Keywords:
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
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Subject: Re: MaILquestion
Date: 19 Apr 1998 23:31:52 GMT
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In <6hdv17$lnv@cocoa.brown.edu> Andrew Jones wrote:
> How can I use the Mail Application to send and/or receive mail?
Mail.app does two things, it reads email and it sends email. It does not
'receive' email per se because it actually only tells you the email you have
received, usually from sendmail.
If you have a static IP, then you can setup sendmail to receive email on your
machine. In order to do that best, you will need to have your sysadmin (for
the Sun network or the campus network) setup a real hostname and IP for your
machine, perhaps 'onyx.engin.brown.edu'.
The advantage to this is that you can get email delivered directly to your
machine, the downside is that you will have to play with sendmail to
massage it into working order (not too hard usually but can be a bear if
something unexpected happens).
This assumes that your machine is always on and always connected to
the Internet (Computer "netvana" if you will)
If you are using a dial-in (PPP) or do not want to have email delivered right
to your
machine, then you will need a POP3 account on your mailhost (probably
cfm.brown.edu) and use PopOver.app
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/PopOver.1.6.NIHS.bd.tar.gz
The advantage to this is that your machine doesn't have to always be on, and
you
don't have to setup sendmail to receive email.
The disadvantage is that you will have to tweak sendmail to not
add your hostname to outgoing email. This is actually relatively
simple if you are not on a dedicated connection (you have to edit
the obvious line in /etc/sendmail.cf.... or maybe it is
/etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf in 3.3)
So it rather depends on what is your situation and preference.
TjL
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From: Paul Buckley<pb141@columbia.edu>
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Subject: Dataphile Windows analog?
Date: 19 Apr 1998 23:48:43 GMT
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It's not for me, but is there a Windows software that resembles Dataphile?
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From: Sothana Srichai <c650962@showme.missouri.edu>
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Subject: Compiler&Network
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Just wondering if there are someone suggests me a place where I can
buy/download a C compiler... I just placed an order for new NeXT and I'm
really novice in this area... Does NeXT come with a C-Compiler?
Two Wintels in my apartment connected together by one hub through
BJ45... NeXT also comes with BJ45, I think... If someone guides me how
to connect all machines (2 PCs + 1 NeXT), I would be appreciated...
Thank you very much in advanced and I'm looking forward to see your
response, soon.
Thanks!
From: Sothana Srichai <c650962@showme.missouri.edu>
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Just wondering if there are someone suggests me a place where I can
buy/download a C compiler... I just placed an order for new NeXT and I'm
really novice in this area... Does NeXT come with a C-Compiler?
Two Wintels in my apartment connected together by one hub through
BJ45... NeXT also comes with BJ45, I think... If someone guides me how
to connect all machines (2 PCs + 1 NeXT), I would be appreciated...
Thank you very much in advanced and I'm looking forward to see your
response, soon.
Thanks!
From: "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@vossen.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: need simple data base app
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 21:46:01 -0400
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my son would like to catalog all of his books (title, author, subject,
which shelf, etc) and would like to use his NeXT cube (running 3.3) for
this. Is there a simple database-type app around that might suit his
needs or should I just break down and write something
thanks
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX, BlueSky/BaKoMa fonts
Date: 20 Apr 1998 10:04:23 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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>Another question: how can I get all of the fonts embedded in the
>resulting PostScript file?
>[...]
>generating PostScript files by bringing up the TeXview print panel,
>selecting Save..., and choosing "Normal Device-Independent PostScript".
>[...]
you could try installing LighthouseDistiller and save as PDF (will have to
rename the executable in order to get it working)
daniel
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Subject: Re: Rapsody to provide NXHost ?
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Date: 19 Apr 98 14:50:18 MDT
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In <6hd9v8$9a9@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
> I'd imagine X11R6 would be necessary for Netscape.
> The lastest version of co-Xist was X11R4.
>
> Does anyone know what the latest X is for CubX?
I run CubX version 5.00, which is X11R6, with Motif 1.2.
> Also, co-Xist is so slow I'd have doubts about whether any
> X server would handle it.
>
> Any comments?
CubX was written using Interceptor code so it's nice
and fast. At least an order of magnitude faster than
co-Xist (which I used about seven years ago). I haven't
run Netscape with it, but other graphics intensive code
I've run seems to run quite nicely**
** I'm not affiliated or associated in any with CubX -
Just a satisfied customer.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX, BlueSky/BaKoMa fonts
Date: 20 Apr 1998 14:02:47 GMT
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In article <6hf6j7$nqj$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) writes:
> you could try installing LighthouseDistiller and save as PDF (will have
> to rename the executable in order to get it working)
So where does one get LighthouseDistiller?
This sounds like the mythical PDF distiller that Lighthouse wasn't
providing/selling to the public... at least this was the case not too long
ago. I'd like to be wrong, however.
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Subject: Edit.app: embedded image as bullet?
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I'm editing an RTFD file in Edit.app and would like to
have something similar to a "bulleted" paragraph with an
image in the place of a bullet.
If I insert an image, it seems to become part of the current
line, and subsequent lines appear below the image, like this:
+-------------+
| |
| Desired |
| Image |
| |
| |
| |
| |
+-------------+ First line of descriptive
text comes out here with subsequent lines along
the bottom like this one is.
I would instead like the first text line to be aligned with
the top of the image with subsequent lines following down
right next to the image, like this:
+-------------+
| | First line of descriptive
| Desired | text here with subsequent
| Image | lines along the side like
| | this one is.
| |
| |
| |
+-------------+
Is there a way to accomplish this?
Thanks for any help.
edx@cc.usu.edu
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Rapsody to provide NXHost ?
Date: 20 Apr 1998 17:00:38 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
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Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote:
: Scott wrote :
: > I would think that it would.. but I doubt that you'd be able
: >to NSHost Rhapsody apps on Next boxes.. I expect the Windowserver will
: >have more capabilities on Rhapsody, and so the older OS on the Next
: >box would barf.
: I wouldn't assume this.
Actually, it's already true, since you can't NSHost from OpenStep 4.x to
NeXTSTEP 3.x.
: > No.. but you could perhaps run X and access Netscape running
: >on the Linux box that way
: I'd imagine X11R6 would be necessary for Netscape.
: The lastest version of co-Xist was X11R4.
: Does anyone know what the latest X is for CubX?
Cub'X v5.0 comes with X11R6 and OSF/Motif 1.2.
: Also, co-Xist is so slow I'd have doubts about whether any
: X server would handle it.
Cub'X on Intel 3.3 runs very well. I have never run it for any major apps
on black hardware...
--Chris
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
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Subject: Re: Edit.app: embedded image as bullet?
Date: 20 Apr 1998 17:59:34 GMT
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In <hxnkaLqsM+uK@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu wrote:
> I would instead like the first text line to be aligned with
> the top of the image with subsequent lines following down
> right next to the image, like this:
>
> +-------------+
> | | First line of descriptive
> | Desired | text here with subsequent
> | Image | lines along the side like
> | | this one is.
> | |
> +-------------+
>
> Is there a way to accomplish this?
WordPerfect can do that, but I don't think Edit.app can
TjL
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
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Cc: rdieter@math.unl.edu,sanguish@digifix.com
In <6hfki7$3vp$1@unlnews.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote:
> In article <6hf6j7$nqj$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
> boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) writes:
>
> > you could try installing LighthouseDistiller and save as PDF (will have
> > to rename the executable in order to get it working)
>
> So where does one get LighthouseDistiller?
>
> This sounds like the mythical PDF distiller that Lighthouse wasn't
> providing/selling to the public... at least this was the case not too long
> ago. I'd like to be wrong, however.
Well I guess I'll be the one to make you happy....
I sent this announcement to Scott A but it never seems to have made it out to
the public.
A saintly but anonymous person @ Lighthouse told me about this and gave me
permit to put it on PEAK.
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat>
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 17:27:59 -0400
To: next-announce@digifix.com
Subject: SUBMISSION: PDF maker --> LighthouseDistiller (QuadFat for NeXTStep)
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/converters/LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/converters/LighthouseDistiller.2.0.README
[ It is also currently available at
ftp://ftp.lighthouse.com/pub/LighthouseDistiller-2.0.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.lighthouse.com/pub/READ_ME_LighthouseDistiller_2_0.rtfd.tar.gz
but I don't know how long it will remain there.
]
LighthouseDistiller is an Adobe Portable Document Format (Acrobat)
file writer for NEXTSTEP.
[ Note: this is completely unsupported software ]
Installation Notes:
Install this application on your machine for personal or
general use. Click the Packages directory. Double click
the application icon, and use NeXT's Installer.app to unpack
the application on your system in the desired directory.
(Usually LocalLibrary/Services or ~/Library/Services.)
You must log in as root to install an application in the
LocalLibrary folder.
Run 'make_services' in Terminal.app or Log out and log in
again to ensure the service is registered
USAGE:
1) Choose PRINT from the main menu of any application.
2) Click the SAVE button from the PRINT panel.
3) Choose Adobe Portable Document Format from the pop-up.
4) Type a name for the new pdf document in the Name field and click
the OK button.
A .pdf file has been created.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: need simple data base app
Message-ID: <1998042020044300.QAA13648@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 20 Apr 1998 20:04:43 GMT
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Well, VarioData, a Lighthouse Design application is freely licensed in places
other than Asia. The application (and VarioBuilder) are available on Peak.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LighthouseDistiller is available (was Re: TeX, BlueSky/BaKoMa fonts)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:27:44 -0400
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To: Timothy Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org>
In-Reply-To: <6hg2te$99j$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Hi, I followed the instructions (NI architectures installed on an Intel
server which exports disks to NeXT computers), but the option for
Lighthouse pdf doesn't appear in the save panel options.
Did the original poster say that you have to rename the executable to make
it work? Which one, I found two in there.
I too use Frank Siegert's PStill.app and it's excellent. I was just
curious what the LightHouse stuff can do in comparison.
Thanks, Rudy
On 20 Apr 1998, Timothy Luoma wrote:
> Installation Notes:
>
> Install this application on your machine for personal or
> general use. Click the Packages directory. Double click
> the application icon, and use NeXT's Installer.app to unpack
> the application on your system in the desired directory.
> (Usually LocalLibrary/Services or ~/Library/Services.)
>
> You must log in as root to install an application in the
> LocalLibrary folder.
>
> Run 'make_services' in Terminal.app or Log out and log in
> again to ensure the service is registered
>
>
>
> USAGE:
> 1) Choose PRINT from the main menu of any application.
>
> 2) Click the SAVE button from the PRINT panel.
>
> 3) Choose Adobe Portable Document Format from the pop-up.
>
> 4) Type a name for the new pdf document in the Name field and click
> the OK button.
>
> A .pdf file has been created.
>
---
Rudolf Blazek blazek@stt.msu.edu
Michigan State University (NeXTmail, Sun, MIME compatible)
Statistics and Probability http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LighthouseDistiller is available (was Re: TeX, BlueSky/BaKoMa fonts)
Date: 20 Apr 1998 21:05:12 GMT
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Cc: blazek@stt.msu.edu,rdieter@math.unl.edu
You need to edit
/LocalLibrary/Services/LighthouseDistiller.service/services
Executable: lighthousedistiller
should be
Executable: lighthouseDistiller
Or rename the executable 'lighthouseDistiller' to 'lighthousedistiller'
I have used Frank Siegert's PStill.app almost since it was first released and
have found it to be an excellent application and it makes great PDF files. I
would agree with all the others who have said that it is well worth the
price, and checking out Frank's web pages is a must
(http://www.this.net/~frank) for all sorts of neat stuff.
TjL
From: "Jim Tegeder" <entreejt@ix.netcom.com>
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Subject: Boardwalk Game Piece
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:23:56 -0400
Organization: Netcom
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My son Daniel has a Boardwalk Place piece in the current McDonalds Contest
for a 1 million dollar prize. The other half is required to win. Both are
quite rare individually. If you can find someone else with a Boardwalk
piece we may have a winning combination which can be split evenly.
Jim Tegeder
Tel: 919-557-2371
Fax: 919-557-0272
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LighthouseDistiller is available (was Re: TeX, BlueSky/BaKoMa fonts)
Message-ID: <1998042020104400.QAA13144@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 20 Apr 1998 20:10:44 GMT
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::sigh::
This is a perfect example of the chilling effect which Lighthouse's generosity
could/might/does have on the NeXTstep software market.
I'd like to note that Frank Siegert's pStill is also available (www.this.net)
and moreover has excellent support--Frank's a very patient guy, even when the
difficulty is user error.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: dmwood@tater.Mines.EDU (David M. Wood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PDF distiller: PStill
Date: 20 Apr 1998 20:11:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <6hga5k$h4u$1@herald.Mines.EDU>
As Timothy J. Luoma observes
> A saintly but anonymous person @ Lighthouse told me about this and
> gave me permit to put it on PEAK.
As saintly as this person may be, I feel compelled to remind readers
that an excellent, fully- (and actively-) supported PDF distiller
due to Frank Siegert is available for NeXTStep, OpenSTEP, AND for
IRIX, Linux, Solaris, and who knows what else, and an incredibly
reasonable price: $30 for individual users. Check out
http://www.noir.net/frank/pstill.html
As grateful as I am to Lighthouse for their past work and very
enlightened policy after exiting the NeXT market, I feel like users
of NeXTStep/OpenStep/ Rhapsody should actively support *current*
developers, especially one as responsive and talented as Frank Siegert.
--
David M. Wood
Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401
Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840
http://www.physics.mines.edu/people/pages/wood.html
e-mail: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PDF distiller: PStill
Date: 20 Apr 1998 21:18:58 GMT
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In <6hga5k$h4u$1@herald.Mines.EDU> David M. Wood wrote:
> As Timothy J. Luoma observes
> > A saintly but anonymous person @ Lighthouse told me about this and
> > gave me permit to put it on PEAK.
>
> As saintly as this person may be, I feel compelled to remind readers
> that an excellent, fully- (and actively-) supported PDF distiller
> due to Frank Siegert is available for NeXTStep, OpenSTEP, AND for
> IRIX, Linux, Solaris, and who knows what else, and an incredibly
> reasonable price: $30 for individual users. Check out
>
> http://www.noir.net/frank/pstill.html
>
> As grateful as I am to Lighthouse for their past work and very
> enlightened policy after exiting the NeXT market, I feel like users
> of NeXTStep/OpenStep/ Rhapsody should actively support *current*
> developers, especially one as responsive and talented as Frank Siegert.
ditto.
TjL, teetering on the edge of AOL-hood ;-)
--
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From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PDF distiller: PStill
Date: 21 Apr 1998 03:16:37 GMT
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In <6hga5k$h4u$1@herald.Mines.EDU> David M. Wood wrote:
> As Timothy J. Luoma observes
> > A saintly but anonymous person @ Lighthouse told me about this and
> > gave me permit to put it on PEAK.
>
> As saintly as this person may be, I feel compelled to remind readers
> that an excellent, fully- (and actively-) supported PDF distiller
Saintly? I begged for a year for them to sell me a single copy and
they wouldn't because it was a "network" app. No, if Lighthouse
wants to benefit us all turn over the source code to Equation
Builder. They didn't develop it, and now, OBE, we can't get at
it due to Lighthouse's actions.
As for a PDF distiller, I endorse verbally and with shareware fees
Frank's PStill.
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for Software
Date: 20 Apr 1998 21:58:45 GMT
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In <353911B4.5D61@his.com> Royce Priem wrote:
> I'm looking for the version of Renderman or other animation packages
> that ran under NS 3.3. If anyone has a copy they would like to sell or
> trade, please contact me. Thanks in advance...
As far as I know Renderman is part of NeXTSTEP 3.3 and cannot be removed from
the package easily, so I do not understand your question.
You can always use BMRT for better effects... see
http://www.seas.gwu.edu/student/gritz/bmrt.html
---
* Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank
* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
* "I have to go now, there are two men in white suits with a giant
* butterfly net at my door..."
From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LighthouseDistiller is available (was Re: TeX, BlueSky/BaKoMa fonts)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:10:30 -0400
Organization: Michigan State University
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To: Timothy Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org>
cc: rdieter@math.unl.edu
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On 20 Apr 1998, Timothy Luoma wrote:
>
> Or rename the executable 'lighthouseDistiller' to 'lighthousedistiller'
>
This one actually worked. Thanks.
Rudy
---
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Statistics and Probability http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek
From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LighthouseDistiller X PStill.app
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:54:50 -0400
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Just for your information:
I tried to use both, the LighthouseDistiller service and PSTill, on a ps
file which came from WordPerfect for NS, with graphics from Mathematica
and some bitmap graphics. About 14 pages.
Lighthouse was faster that PSTill, possibly because might be using the DPS
engine, while PSTill has his own PS interperter.
LighthouseDistiller produced file larger than 1MB, while PSTill's
output was less than 200KB.
The LighthouseDistiller pdf file didn't open in PDFViewer. Simpler PS
files converted with Lighthouse Distiller did, but this one failed.
My personal conclusion is that while LighthouseDistiller might be OK for
some lighter jobs, PSTill.app is the app of choice if you want to do
serious work converting complex and complicated PS files to PDF on NeXT.
And Frank's support is really good.
Many thanks to LightHouse anyway. They contributed a lot in the past.
Rudy
---
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Michigan State University (NeXTmail, Sun, MIME compatible)
Statistics and Probability http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek
From: "kk" <kkx@email.msn.com>
Subject: for sale: complete NextStep for Intel v3.0, opened, unused
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:18:57 -0700
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Make an offer. Complete package with manuals. Opened but never used.
kkx@usa.net
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Subject: Re: cuB'x
Date: 21 Apr 1998 06:57:51 GMT
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In <353C1858.6FE3A15@tc.umn.edu> william l rice wrote:
> I want to buy a working copy of cubX, I emailed them and they failed to
> get back to me.. if anyone can point me to a place that sells it or a
> way that I can use the demo without the time limits I would appreciate
> it...
> Bill
>
>
Try giving them a call. I have a friend who purchased a copy not to long
ago. Couple of months ago. There phone number can be found on there web
site. http://www.intuisys.com This should be the site. Good Luck
Jay Lee
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Subject: Winword 6.1 running on SoftPC4.0?
Date: 21 Apr 1998 07:02:27 GMT
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Has anybody succesfully installed MSoffice4.2c using SoftPC. Excel seems to
work fine. But, Word is a piece of shit. If anybody was successful running
Word6.1, please let me know. I might need your help. Thanks in advance.
Jay Lee
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From: "Raage A Essak" <raage@idirect.com>
Subject: software distribution server
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Date: 21 Apr 98 05:40:35 GMT
Xanthe Software Distribution Server
Xanthe is an application server that enables you to
distribute demo or special versions of application
software over the internet. Xanthe permits the
vendor to
unlock the software over the internet.
To download a fully working demo please go to
http://www.torontoweb.ca/lucigenic
From: william l rice <rice0067@tc.umn.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cuB'x
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:54:00 -0500
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I want to buy a working copy of cubX, I emailed them and they failed to
get back to me.. if anyone can point me to a place that sells it or a
way that I can use the demo without the time limits I would appreciate
it...
Bill
From: James <james@usa.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PacMan source code
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:33:48 -0500
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Hello,
I try to find PacMan game source code, but have no luck. Anyone have
idea where can I fin it?
Thanks.
-- James
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX, BlueSky/BaKoMa fonts
Date: 21 Apr 1998 12:01:03 GMT
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Back to the real questions that started this thread ...
In <6hb274$3pv$1@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us> Nathan Urban wrote:
> I downloaded and installed the BlueSky font package in
> /LocalLibrary/Fonts. I've also got BaKoMa installed in
> /LocalLibrary/Fonts/Bakoma.
There is no point in having both sets of fonts available, particularly
since installation of either set is not trivial. They are near substitutes.
I chose BaKoMa because they have a more complete range of
point sizes (not a big diff, since PostScript fonts are scalable, but
it simplifies installation). Some claim that the BlueSky fonts are better
(e.g., better hinting for low resolutions), but I've never noticed any
difference.
> I'm using the TeXEdit/TeXWorks/TeXview
> combo to do LaTeX editing.
>
> Several questions: how do I switch back and forth between using the
> original bitmap PK fonts, the BlueSky fonts, and the BaKoMa fonts?
> I dug up an example somewhere of doing:
>
> \font\myfont=ptmr at 12pt
> \myfont
You should not do anything different in your document, since these
fonts are equivalent and use the same .tfm files. The time to select between
PK fonts and PostScript fonts is when doing the dvi-to-ps conversion.
> Another question: how can I get all of the fonts embedded in the
> resulting PostScript file? I don't want to embed fonts for PostScript
> files I'm using locally, since I have the fonts, but I do want to embed
> them for files I want to give to someone else, so they won't have to
> install the fonts.
Here is what I did. If you are using TeTeX, the file locations will
differ a little. The description below includes the ams fonts.
1. Put the fonts into /LocalLibrary/Fonts (I don't think you want them to
be in a subdirectory. Or does NS/OS search subdirectories of
LocalLibrary/Fonts?)
2. Copy the files cmfonts.map, lafonts.map and amsfonts.map from the BaKoMa
distribution to /usr/lib/tex/ps twice, once with the original name and once
with `-d' added to the name (e.g., cmfonts-d.map).
3. Make a directory /usr/lib/tex/ps/BaKoMa.
Run the following script:
----------------
#!/bin/sh
for i in `cat /usr/lib/tex/ps/*fonts-d.map | awk '{ print $1 }'`
do
ln -s /LocalLibrary/Fonts/$i'.font'/$i /usr/lib/tex/ps/BaKoMa/$*
done
-------------
This links each actual font file (not the .afm) to a a place that dvips can
find
it, for embedding into PostScript files. E.g., it links
/LocalLibrary/Fonts/cmr10.font/cmr
to /usr/lib/tex/ps/BaKoMa/cmr.
4. Edit each line of cmfonts-d.map, lafonts-d.map and amsfonts-d.map as
follows:
OLD: cmbx12 cmbx12
NEW: cmbx12 <BaKoMa/cmbx12
You can automate this using search/replace.
5. The directory /usr/lib/tex/ps contains one or more files config.ps and
perhaps
other config.*. These are the printer configuration files, with config.ps
being
the default. Make two copies of the config file for the printer you most
commonly
use.
Name one copy `config.psfonts' and add the following lines somewhere at the
top:
p+ cmfonts.map
p+ lafonts.map
p+ amsfonts.map
Name another copy `config.psfonts-d' and add the following lines:
p+ cmfonts-d.map
p+ lafonts-d.map
p+ amsfonts-d.map
6. To print or save to a file without embedding the fonts, use dvips from a
command line (terminal window) with the `-Ppsfonts' option.
7. To print or save to a file embedding the fonts, use dvips from
a command line with the `-Ppsfonts-d' option. E.g.,
dvips -Ppsfonts-d mypaper -o
converts mypaper.dvi to a PostScript file with all used fonts embedded,
and saves the file as mypaper.ps.
COMMENTS:
1. To use the postscript fonts with TeXview, you have to do something else.
However, I do not recommend it because the pk fonts are faster (except
the first time you use a new size and have to generate the bitmap) and
sharper. I know that other people have different opinions.
2. For the same reason as above, I never bother using postscript fonts
unless I need to generate a resolution-independent postscript or pdf
file for distribution, in which case it is important to embedd the fonts.
3. The postscript file with postscript fonts embedded will be huge.
Using some kind of distiller application to convert from postscript to pdf
reduces the size, to as little as 10%. Also, pdf readers are freely
available,
whereas not everyone can handle postscript. However, pdf and
postscript->pdf conversion are not robust. I occasionally get complaints
from someone about garbled characters in a pdf file that has the BaKoMa
fonts and was converted from ps to pdf on a win95 machine using Adobe
Distiller 3.0. As far as I know, BaKoMa fonts work at least as well for this
as the BlueSky fonts do.
Tim
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PacMan source code
Date: 21 Apr 1998 13:40:48 GMT
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In <353C21AB.2E6ECB65@usa.net> James wrote:
> I try to find PacMan game source code, but have no luck. Anyone have
> idea where can I fin it?
It was part of the Game Kit at one point... drop Don Y an email
<don@misckit.com>
The only copy of the source I have has this disclaimer:
This is a pre-alpha release and as such resembles a demolition site.
The game is playable, but only in the loosest sense of the word
"playable." It's not anywhere near what I would call good...yet.
But I want folks to be able to see an example using the game kit,
and this will at least help them get started.
Not exactly something which I'd want to put up on the FTP site, especially if
there is a later version.
TjL
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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Date: 21 Apr 1998 13:41:16 GMT
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In <6hh32l$12r$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> Robert B. Love wrote:
> As for a PDF distiller, I endorse verbally and with shareware fees
> Frank's PStill.
I agree.... In fact Lighthouse's Distiller froze up my system last night and
dropped a line out of a ps->PDF file conversion that PStill handled fine.
PStill does a much better job that Distiller. I think that's pretty clear.
However, the person @ Lighthouse is the reason that a) their apps were
released with license strings; b) I was able to get a copy of the FAQs for
those apps after Lighthouse dropped them from their website; c) that
Distiller was finally released rather than being sent to the bit bucket in
the sky; d) and also the reason that we know that there are no more CDs of
the Lighthouse stuff at Lighthouse.com.
Let's not confuse someone who is working to do the right thing with the
larger company that has dropped the ball on more than one occasion.
Lighthouse didn't decide to release license strings to their apps because
they woke up one morning and had the idea.... Someone had to make it happen.
TjL
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From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PacMan source code
Date: 21 Apr 1998 16:27:15 GMT
Organization: MiscKit Development
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nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma) wrote:
> In <353C21AB.2E6ECB65@usa.net> James wrote:
> > I try to find PacMan game source code, but have no luck. Anyone have
> > idea where can I fin it?
>
> It was part of the Game Kit at one point... [...]
>
> The only copy of the source I have has this disclaimer:
>[...]
Yeah. I'm working on an OPENSTEP (Rhapsody) version of it. Don't know when
I'll have it done, but I _am_ working on it. And I'm making improvements
along the way, since there's plenty of room for them. :-) At the moment,
getting two MiscKit releases out the door (OPENSTEP and then NEXTSTEP) is the
higher priority, though.
In the meantime, the old NEXTSTEP code is still available. (PacMan's source
is inside one of the GameKit distributions.) Hunt around on ftp2.misckit.com
for that and other goodies.
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From: "David Andel" <da_vid@next_to_you.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PasteUp: weird importing graphics problem
Date: 21 Apr 1998 16:54:56 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de)
Message-ID: <6hij10$1er@hal.nexttoyou.de>
Dear experts,
the following is the description of a problem I have with PasteUp v2.61 on
a NeXT Turbo ND.
Every attempt to import TIFF and EPS (!) into a PasteUp document simply
fails. Dragging & dropping or importing any TIFF or EPS graphic file using
the menu ends up with the binary contents of this file in my document. This
is only valid for TIFF and EPS (yep, just the "native" formats), while GIF,
JPEG etc. are working as expected using the OmniImage filter services.
Importing via Copy & Paste is surprisingly working as usual. But then, I
first need to open the graphic file in another application for being able
to paste it into the PU document.
Whatever happened, it could (?) be a consequence of my upgrade to
OPENSTEP/Mach 4.2 in early 1997 and something missing since then. But where
should I search and why does only PU have the problem? AFAIK I installed
everything where and as it should be. Nothing unusual happened during the
upgrade from NEXTSTEP 3.3.
All this is especially strange because *no* other application has *any*
problems "importing" TIFF and EPS graphics using drag & drop -- it's only
PasteUp driving me crazy with this behavior. The last version of PasteUp
working as it should is v1.1 edit 7.
Of course I asked the AFS support (very responsive, but unfortunately with
no positive result for me), of course the above description is valid for a
fresh and unchanged installation of PU and of course I searched for any
kind of pasteboard problems -- without success (e.g. "make_services debug"
gives no indication of any kind of error). I even uninstalled once all my
services.
So, does anybody have any hints what might be wrong or where else I should
search? Nope, I am not a newbie :-). This is really the only problem on
my personal machine and I'm using NEXTSTEP since more than seven years.
Thanks for any help,
David Andel
NEXTTOYOU Magazine
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Tried to compile SambaManager under user 3.3 developer 3.2. Was a no
go. Has anyone done this? DOes anyone have a binary distribution of
Samba Manager that would run on this type of setup?
This is all on a Turbo Slab.
David Baisley
david@columbia.edu
From: Sothana Srichai <c650962@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ???NeXTStep/OpenStep????
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:59:22 -0500
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Dear all NeXT Experts,
i'm a novice in NeXT area. I was told that NeXT OS can run on
PC-Base(Intel) machine... Also, I was told that there are NeXTStep and
OpenStep... My question is, which on is for PC-Base and which one is
for the Black Hardware?
Another question is, if I run the NeXT OS, designed for Intel, can I
run NeXT application that designed for black hardware on the Intel?
Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you very much.
Your Sincerely
Sarawoot
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ???NeXTStep/OpenStep????
Date: 21 Apr 1998 20:57:10 GMT
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In <353CEC8A.27941F54@showme.missouri.edu> Sothana Srichai wrote:
> i'm a novice in NeXT area. I was told that NeXT OS can run on
> PC-Base(Intel) machine... Also, I was told that there are NeXTStep and
> OpenStep... My question is, which on is for PC-Base and which one is
> for the Black Hardware?
NeXTStep was OpenStep previous to release 4.0.
They are the name of the operating system from NeXT Inc (actually OpenStep
was a bit wider in scope, but that's beside the real point).
NeXTStep ran on NeXT hardware from release 0-3.3 (the last NeXTStep release)
NeXTStep ran on Intel hardware from release 3.1-3.3 (although 3.3 would be
the lowest
I would go if trying to get NeXTStep to install on PC hardware)
NeXTStep ran on some HP and Sparc hardware in release 3.3
OpenStep runs on NeXT hardware, PC hardware, and Sparc hardware. HP support
was dropped for OpenStep.
> Another question is, if I run the NeXT OS, designed for Intel, can I
> run NeXT application that designed for black hardware on the Intel?
It depends how that application was compiled.
Some old apps were made back before non-NeXT hardware was supported, and
therefore is only available for NeXT computers.
Most apps now are compiled "Fat" or "MAB" (Multi-Architecture Binaries) which
can be compiled on any of the supported hardware to run on any other
supported hardware.
For example I can make a program here and compile it to run on NeXT, HP,
Intel, and Sparc if I have NeXTStep 3.3 Developer installed (even though I
have an Intel machine).
I hope that answers your question, if not please feel free to drop me a note
or ask on the newsgroup
TjL
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Samba Manager under 3.2
Date: 21 Apr 1998 18:55:00 GMT
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In <slrn6jpq6j.8p1.david@watsol.cc.columbia.edu> David Baisley wrote:
> Tried to compile SambaManager under user 3.3 developer 3.2. Was a no
> go. Has anyone done this? DOes anyone have a binary distribution of
> Samba Manager that would run on this type of setup?
There's a binary at
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/networks/SambaManager.1.0.2.NIHS.b.tar.gz
Is it not suitable for some reason?
TjL
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From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
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Subject: Re: PDF distiller: PStill
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:32:49 -0400
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On 21 Apr 1998, Timothy Luoma wrote:
> In <6hh32l$12r$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> Robert B. Love wrote:
>
> > As for a PDF distiller, I endorse verbally and with shareware fees
> > Frank's PStill.
>
> I agree.... In fact Lighthouse's Distiller froze up my system last night and
> dropped a line out of a ps->PDF file conversion that PStill handled fine.
>
> PStill does a much better job that Distiller. I think that's pretty clear.
>
> However, the person @ Lighthouse is the reason that a) their apps were
> released with license strings; b) I was able to get a copy of the FAQs for
> those apps after Lighthouse dropped them from their website; c) that
> Distiller was finally released rather than being sent to the bit bucket in
> the sky; d) and also the reason that we know that there are no more CDs of
> the Lighthouse stuff at Lighthouse.com.
>
> Let's not confuse someone who is working to do the right thing with the
> larger company that has dropped the ball on more than one occasion.
> Lighthouse didn't decide to release license strings to their apps because
> they woke up one morning and had the idea.... Someone had to make it happen.
>
That is why in my post thanked LightHouse for all they contributed in the
past. They are gone from the NeXT world, but their app suite surely
remains one of the most important ones. And the free licenses is almost
unbelievable kindness. Thank you.
So even though I think that it is time to support people like Frank who
develop apps for NeXT right now, but I still have light in my head when I
think of LightHouse :-)))))
Good luck to them in the Java world.
Rudy
From: igor@i-motion.nl (Igor van Oostveen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC server on NeXTstep 3.2
Date: 21 Apr 1998 23:20:52 GMT
Organization: I-Motion
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Hello,
I'm looking for an IRC server for NeXTstep 3.2 on black hardware. I've
looked in both the Peak and the Peanuts ftp sites, but I have no clue
where to look or how it might be called.
Or, if NeXT compiled binairies are non-existend, what pakage should I get?
Thanks in advance,
Igor
PS: please mail to the folowing address: igor@i-motion.nl
From: Melissa O'Neill <NoOnSePiAlMl@cs.sfu.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PDF distiller: PStill
Date: 22 Apr 1998 00:54:24 GMT
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David M. Wood <dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU> wrote:
> As saintly as this [the person at Lighthouse who made LighthouseDistiller
> available for free] may be, I feel compelled to remind readers that
> an excellent, fully- (and actively-) supported PDF distiller due to
> Frank Siegert is available for NeXTStep, OpenSTEP, AND for IRIX, Linux,
> Solaris, and who knows what else, and an incredibly reasonable price:
> $30 for individual users. Check out
>
> http://www.noir.net/frank/pstill.html
I don't think Lighthouse's free NEXTSTEP software is much of a threat
to Frank Siegert or anyone else. The NEXTSTEP commercial software business
is dead. As a platform I'm sure it live on for many years, but largely
through free and shareware offerings.
Frank, like other former NEXTSTEP authors, has moved his software to
Rhapsody, where he faces no `unfair' giveaways from Lighthouse, only an
uncertain future at the hands of Apple.
Melissa.
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From: xray@cs.brandeis.edu (Nathan G. Raymond)
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>Frank, like other former NEXTSTEP authors, has moved his software to
>Rhapsody, where he faces no `unfair' giveaways from Lighthouse, only an
>uncertain future at the hands of Apple.
Please be certain, however clumsy, to give a more acurate snapshot of
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From: cola <ts1@pluto.dti.ne.jp>
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Subject: ToolsAsia'98 Information Changed!!!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:47:40 +0900
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Some ToolsAsia'98 information has been changed,
Paper (regular and short) submission deadline: May 15, 1998
Tutorial proposal submission deadline: June 5, 1998
Workshop and panel proposal submission deadline: June 5, 1998
Notification of paper acceptance: June 29, 1998
Final paper manuscripts due: July 31, 1998
Conference: September 22-25, 1998
Have a look at its website:
http://www.cis.unisa.edu.au/~cisjc/ToolsAsia/
Jian Chen
From: Timothy J Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid-address@luomat.peak.org>
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Subject: Re: Startup Problems: Please Help
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:59:09 -0400
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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Sean Moriarty wrote:
> I have tried to configure a NeXt cube for connecting to a network. I have
> setup the IP address. However I changed the broadcast address numbers to
> the IP address. Now the system will not even start up in the operating
> system.
Boot into single user mode (bsd -s at the ROM prompt)
mv /etc/netinfo /etc/netinfo.wrong
mv /etc/hostconfig /etc/hostconfig.wrong
cp -rp /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo /etc
cp /usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig /etc
This will leave you in a fresh NetInfo state so you will have to put in
all the accounts/passwords/etc but I don't know any other way to solve the
current problem
> Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Thanks
Yeah, get rid of the 15 line sig file.
TjL
From: Jamie Damanpour <MtBiker@vt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: In search of freeware
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:22:06 -0400
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I'm getting a new hard drive soon to put Openstep 4.0 (Mach) back on my
computer as I only have room for NT now (just can't get away from
Microsoft eh?).
I'm doing this primarily for a Unix toy, but since NeXT/Intel software
is on the decline now, what kind of software (office, internet...) is
left out there?
Lighthouse put all there stuff up for free via ftp and thank god I got
it before they took it off....
In other words, is there any reason why I should put OpenStep on when I
can put Linux or something with better internet support on instead?
Jamie
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From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: for sale: complete NextStep for Intel v3.0, opened, unused
Date: 22 Apr 1998 19:43:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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"kk" <kkx@email.msn.com> wrote:
>for sale: complete NextStep for Intel v3.0, opened, unused
>
>Make an offer. Complete package with manuals. Opened but never used.
>
This should be posted on April the 1st :)
The first version of NeXTSTEP for Intel proccessor was 3.1.
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PDF distiller: PStill
Date: 22 Apr 1998 14:42:20 GMT
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In <6hjf40$qsf$1@morgoth.sfu.ca> Melissa O'Neill wrote:
> I don't think Lighthouse's free NEXTSTEP software is much of a threat
> to Frank Siegert or anyone else. The NEXTSTEP commercial software business
> is dead. As a platform I'm sure it live on for many years, but largely
> through free and shareware offerings.
>
> Frank, like other former NEXTSTEP authors, has moved his software to
> Rhapsody, where he faces no `unfair' giveaways from Lighthouse, only an
> uncertain future at the hands of Apple.
[Rhapsody port] Not yet, Melissa, but in a few months hopefully...
I do not see the giveaway of another product as a threat to me or the PStill
project, mostly as I treat PStill as a technological experiment I can use for
several other ideas and projects I have in mind (Of course I am *very* happy
when someone registers because it gives me a kind of positive feedback and I
am committed to help my users now and in the future). Beside PStill does a
very good job IMHO and now runs (since it is written in Plain ANSI C the port
of the core engine is trivial) on Linux, Solaris, IRIX, FreeBSD and hopefully
soon Win95/NT :-)... As much as I like to develop software for NS/OS, the
market is small and I have to make my 'real' money by working even for the
darker side (yes, I admit - I do programming for Windows beside other OS - as
a freelancer I do not have much choice but to swim with the flow...)
The next release of PStill for NS/OS will be due in a few weeks and will
implement PDFMark support and newer compression schemes (DCT) plus various
enhancements (rotation, etc...) and some bug fixes.
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* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
* "I have to go now, there are two men in white suits with a giant
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From: tom@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (Tom Hageman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Rapsody to provide NXHost ?
Date: 22 Apr 1998 17:41:15 GMT
Organization: Warty Wolfs
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csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) wrote:
> Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote:
> : Scott wrote :
> : > I would think that it would.. but I doubt that you'd be able
> : >to NSHost Rhapsody apps on Next boxes.. I expect the Windowserver will
> : >have more capabilities on Rhapsody, and so the older OS on the Next
> : >box would barf.
>
> : I wouldn't assume this.
>
> Actually, it's already true, since you can't NSHost from OpenStep 4.x to
> NeXTSTEP 3.x.
That's correct. However, this isn't necessarily the case between
Rhapsody and OPENSTEP 4.x. If you have a Rhapsody and an OPENSTEP
box, I can only say (without breaking the NDA that I may or may
not have signed): try it.
(Of course, this is DR1 after all, and the results of this little
experiment guarantees/precludes nothing for the future.)
--Tom.
From: franic@NOSPAMusfca.edu (Ernie Franic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sun Microsystems and Lighthouse Design Question
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:16:04 -0700
Organization: University of San Francisco
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I read in a message on comp.sys.next.marketplace that noted that Sun
bought up LightHouse Design and they stopped NeXT development shortly
after....what was the deal there?
Is Lighthouse doing anything for Sun these days? Is there any way we might
move sun to allow those folks to port everything over to Rhapsody?
-Ernie
naive NeXT newbie
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: In search of freeware
Date: 23 Apr 1998 00:45:24 GMT
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In <353E435E.C44060BE@vt.edu> Jamie Damanpour wrote:
> I'm doing this primarily for a Unix toy, but since NeXT/Intel software
> is on the decline now, what kind of software (office, internet...) is
> left out there?
See http://www.peak.org/next/ for about 3 gigs worth
See http://www.peanuts.org too
> Lighthouse put all there stuff up for free via ftp and thank god I got
> it before they took it off....
Also on PEAK
> In other words, is there any reason why I should put OpenStep on when I
> can put Linux or something with better internet support on instead?
If you're a commandline pilot, then Linux is the way to go.
If you want the world's most beautiful GUI, use OpenStep :-)
See http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ for some more info, including a page of
'must have' apps.
TjL
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From: phr@uptime.ch (Philippe C.D. Robert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXBench
Date: 23 Apr 1998 16:02:53 GMT
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In article <Er8GEC.JzD@world.std.com> mcbinc@world.std.com (Monty C
Brandenberg) writes:
> No, I need NXBench. The *only* thing I'm immediately interested in
> is graphics performance for some approximate metric. Comparable to
> Xmarks. General performance testing comes later....
Hi,
I will convert NXBench to OpenStep (i,s,n,rapsody i,ppc and yellow box)
in Q2/Q3 this year. If you just want a NS binary check out peanuts.
BTW if somebody knows of some very urgent nice-to-haves for NXBench,
please send me a note!
regards, Phil
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From: "Matt Ungaro" <mungaro@nospam.viewnetinc.com>
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Subject: Next Newbie Question
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:52:51 -0500
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OK, I am looking into investing in a Cube. Now my question is, what exactly
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun Microsystems and Lighthouse Design Question
Date: 24 Apr 1998 02:47:54 GMT
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In <1998042402052600.WAA05918@ladder03.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
> Actually, the original notice for the free issuing of 2-user Lighthouse App
> licenses suggested that they might have interesting things to report once
> Rhapsody was available.
First rule of Internet marketing:
Never skip a chance to encourage folks to visit your website
and give the impression that they might be missing something
if they don't
I'll be interested to see what turns up.... but I bet whatever it is it
rhymes with "rava" ;-)
TjL
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
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Subject: Re: Sun Microsystems and Lighthouse Design Question
Date: 23 Apr 1998 11:29:10 GMT
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In <franic-2304980216040001@138.202.213.114> Ernie Franic wrote:
> I read in a message on comp.sys.next.marketplace that noted that Sun
> bought up LightHouse Design and they stopped NeXT development shortly
> after....what was the deal there?
That's pretty much it.... Sun bought Lighthouse Design and started moving
everyone over to the land of the Javas
> Is Lighthouse doing anything for Sun these days?
Goto http://www.lighthouse.com for the answer
(Hint: it refreshes to http://java.sun.com/)
> Is there any way we might move sun to allow those folks to port everything
over to
> Rhapsody?
*dies laughing*
Thanks, I needed that. However I don't think even a directive from G'd would
get them to do a Rhapsody port....
TjL
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Subject: Is there a Rhapsody Intel version of TheShelf?
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 06:20:08 -0600
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I'm wondering if there is a version of TheShelf for Rhapsody DR1 for Intel?
Or if someone else has a dock made for DR1 Intel? Please send me an email!
Thanks.
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Subject: SHARE THE WEALTH
Date: 24 Apr 98 14:25:44 GMT
Organization: Money Inc.
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*******************************************************
PLEASE READ ON ABOUT HOW TO BE SUCCESSFUL!!
*******************************************************
1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL?
I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I
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business.
2. WOULD THE POST OFFICE BE OKAY WITH THIS?
I called them:
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18,h sections1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws). This clarifies the
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Well, everyone who sends me a buck has a good
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If you are a non believer, pick an address below and mail that person
asking how they have done. If it didn’t work there wouldn’t be so many list
like this on the Internet.
============
HOW IT WORKS:
============
STEP 1:
Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each
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PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST.
$1 US DOLLAR PROCESSING FEE IS ENCLOSED.
(THIS IS KEY AS THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT LEGAL SINCE YOU ARE PAYING FOR
AND LATER OFFERING A SERVICE).
Now get 6 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of
paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent
theft/robbery.
Then, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and
seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece
of paper stating the above phrase and a U.S. $1.00 bill.
Mail the envelopes to the following addresses:
1) J. Turley
P.O. Box 50604
Knoxville, TN 37950-0604
USA
2) K. Agler
109 Fraternity Ct.
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4) Heather
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USA
5) John Pacitti
2600 Mifflin Street
Philadelphia, PA 19145
USA
6) B. J. MILLARD
721 LAURA LANE
YORK, PA 17402
USA
STEP 2:
Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move
the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR name
as number 6 on the list. (If you want to remain anonymous, put a
nickname, but the address MUST be correct. It, of course, MUST contain
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your money to fly away, would you?!?!).
STEP 3:
Now post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups.
Remember, 200 postings is just a guideline. The more you post, the more
money you make!
NOTE:
IN MANY NEWSGROUPS THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DELETE THIS KIND OF MESSAGES
I RECOMEND YOU TO POST 1 OR EVEN 2 TIMES A WEEK TO 300 NEWSGROUPS SO OTHER
PEOPLE CAN SEE YOUR MESSAGES.THIS IS A WAY TO INCREASE THE
POSSIBILITIES FOR YOU TO GET MORE MONEY!!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The TOP 200 newsgroups can be found at --->
www.op.net/usenet-stats.html
*** BOTS ***
Bots are small computer programs on a usenet server.
1) Bots look for certain characters in the "Subject:" field of your
newsgroup posting.
2) Bots also look for "multiple postings".
3) If a Bot discovers any of the above, it will delete your posting.
4) Then send you a nasty e-mail.
***OUTSMART THE BOTS***
1) You will make a lot MORE money if you outsmart the BOTS.
2) Post your message only ONCE.
3) Do NOT use characters such as (! $ % + # & * @ ?) in the "Subject"
field.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU
> WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**
> That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within
> days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large
> amount of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can
> invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it.
> **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.**
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
=================
Now the WHY part:
=================
Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low
example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now,
each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200
postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of
the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make
200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will
bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and
post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies
each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part,
each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at
#2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!!
Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups
with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will
receive $15,625,00! With a original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING!
And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is probable 20 to
30!
So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is
what you will make:
at #6 $15.00
at #5 $225.00
at #4 $3,375.00
at #3 $50,625.00
at #2 $759,375.00
at #1 $11,390,625.00
When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the
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be honest.
** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages
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to knew someone who did that and he made practically nothing, and that's
after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 6 $1.00 bills, people
added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k.
This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the
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Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW! Also, try to keep a
list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the
newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly.
Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the
basic idea to make the money!!
GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards
from this, which is tons of extra CASH.
Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again...
________________________________________________________________________
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From: paul <root@127.0.0.1>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: looking for working popauth
Date: 24 Apr 1998 16:16:08 GMT
Organization: Saint Louis University
Message-ID: <6hqds8$nc9$1@axb.slu.edu>
Subject line says it. I've tried building Qualcom's qpopper package, for
some reason the popauth database doesn't work. When I build it with ndbm,
it seems to write the updates (at least the file grows) but "popauth
-list" and "popauth -delete" (run as root) tell me the userid isn't there.
When I use gdbm it creates the database with "popauth -init", but
subsequent attempts to update say it's not writeable, even when I'm
running as root.
If you reply by e-mail, please note that I've used "at" in place of "@"
and "dot" in place of "." in my return address in an attempt to fend off
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From: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: OpenWrite Broken Under OpenStep 4.2
Date: 24 Apr 1998 15:20:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <6hqakg$4ci$1@news.cs.ucla.edu>
Hi,
Sorry about the cross-post, but since Lighthouse Design is defunct,
I didn't know where else to turn. Ever since I installed OpenStep 4.2,
the Spelling Checker in OpenWrite 2.1.8 (last and latest version) no
longer works properly (actually, it doesn't work at all).
Is there a workaround to this problem, or does this mean that I
should dump OpenWrite altogether? Are there other word processing
packages currently available for 4.2 OpenStep on NeXT/Intel? I've
heard about another product, CedarWord, from Cedar Systems, but I
don't know how good it is or if something better is available.
Please reply by e-mail, as I do not frequently read news.
Thanks!
--
Eskandar Ensafi
Space Computer Corporation
<Ensafi@SpaceComputer.Com>
--
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Avidity and lust controlled by hate | South of Heaven
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Souls of damnation in their own reality" |
From: zan <zanman@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: gcc for NS3.3 USER?
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:59:42 -0400
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3540D30D.9A36B83E@earthlink.net>
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I purchased NeXTStep 3.3 user edition, can I still compile shell apps
like mc, bash, etc? I always get the error cc not found. Would the
developer edition be able to compile these applications? Is there a
binary port of gcc for NeXTStep that I can download?
Zan
From: mark@sapphire.oaai.com (Mark Onyschuk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun Microsystems and Lighthouse Design Question
Date: 24 Apr 1998 14:39:29 GMT
Organization: M. Onyschuk and Associates Inc.
Message-ID: <slrn6k1qkn.ke.mark@sapphire.oaai.com>
References: <6hn8m6$1og$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <1998042402052600.WAA05918@ladder03.news.aol.com> <6hougq$t33$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
In article <6hougq$t33$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Timothy Luoma wrote:
>In <1998042402052600.WAA05918@ladder03.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
>
>> Actually, the original notice for the free issuing of 2-user Lighthouse App
>> licenses suggested that they might have interesting things to report once
>> Rhapsody was available.
>
>First rule of Internet marketing:
>
> Never skip a chance to encourage folks to visit your website
> and give the impression that they might be missing something
> if they don't
>
>I'll be interested to see what turns up.... but I bet whatever it is it
>rhymes with "rava" ;-)
>
>TjL
>
>--
>[Yes that is a valid mail address, until it gets spammed]
>Unofficial @Home FAQ: http://members.home.com/faqs/
>Who decided we _wanted_ a Tarzan for the 90s?
>Or a new Love Boat, for that matter...
>
... "http://java.sun.com" or so it seems.
Mark
Message-ID: <354107EE.86F29A9E@rit.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:45:18 -0400
From: Jeff Sciortino <jjs2815@rit.edu>
Organization: RIT
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
To: Matt Ungaro <mungaro@nospam.viewnetinc.com>
Subject: Re: Next Newbie Question
References: <6ho2o9$s0$1@news.itis.com>
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Matt Ungaro wrote:
>
> OK, I am looking into investing in a Cube. Now my question is, what exactly
> is a dimension cube? Looking at different descriptions, it sounds like the
> same thing as a Next cube, but with a hefty video card. Are these machines
> designed specifically for graphics applications? Thanks for any help.
>
> Matt Ungaro ( mungaro@viewnetinc.com )
A dimension cube has a very hefty video card. My understanding (don't
have the pleasure of owning one myself :-) is that it's actually a
computer in it's own right, with it's own simm slots (I think they can
take up to 64MB, check the FAQs), and has an i860 CPU on board. I have
head reports that a non-turbo cube with a dimension card actually runs
considerably faster than a turbo colorstation.
You can also run the cube two headed (with a B&w monitor and the color
monitor) to expand your desktop. I tshould work with any Next or
multi-sync monitor.
Regards,
Jeff Sciortino
From: nurban@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OS intel and OS mach now bundled in Academic 4.2?
Date: 24 Apr 1998 18:44:03 -0400
Organization: Data Systems Consulting, Inc.
Message-ID: <6hr4jj$reu$1@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us>
References: <354108F7.43DBCDBE@rit.edu>
In article <354108F7.43DBCDBE@rit.edu>, Jeff Sciortino <jjs2815@rit.edu> wrote:
> Does anyone know if they are now bundling together Openstep for Mach and
> Intel in the academic bundle?
Uh, there aren't two separate products "Openstep for Mach" and "Openstep
for Intel". There is "OPENSTEP for Mach / Intel" (which is the OPENSTEP
for Mach operating system running on Intel processors), as well as
"OPENSTEP Enterprise" (also known as "OpenStep for Windows"), as well as
"OPENSTEP for MACH / [other CPUs]". You can get OSfM/I (as it is known
in shorthand) as the Academic bundle; alternatively, you could possibly
get it instead for Windows or another CPU (I don't know which options
they make available for the Academic bundle).
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gcc for NS3.3 USER?
Date: 24 Apr 1998 20:04:51 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <6hqr93$718$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <3540D30D.9A36B83E@earthlink.net>
In article <3540D30D.9A36B83E@earthlink.net> zan <zanman@earthlink.net>
writes:
> I purchased NeXTStep 3.3 user edition, can I still compile shell apps
> like mc, bash, etc? I always get the error cc not found. Would the
> developer edition be able to compile these applications? Is there a
> binary port of gcc for NeXTStep that I can download?
There IS a binary port of gcc available at peak... BUT... it doesn't work
without the binary utilities and libraries distributed with NEXTSTEP
Developer.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK)
Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Mike <zansk@navix.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem installing Rhapsody
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:32:15 +0000
Organization: Navix: Aliant Communications Internet Services
Message-ID: <3540CC9D.A8DE3852@navix.net>
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I just got the dev release of Rhapsody for my 7500/180, which has the
exact same logic board as an 8500 (which is one of the only comps the
dev release runs on thus far). And I keep getting a "addressing error"
whever I boot off the cd in MacOS while holding the caps lock key down
(it's what you do to boot up the installer). I can never get any
further, and was wondering if there was anybody with experience with
Rhapsody who could help me along? Thanks.
Mike
please reply to mailto:zansk@navix.net
Message-ID: <354108F7.43DBCDBE@rit.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:49:43 -0400
From: Jeff Sciortino <jjs2815@rit.edu>
Organization: RIT
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OS intel and OS mach now bundled in Academic 4.2?
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Does anyone know if they are now bundling together Openstep for Mach and
Intel in the academic bundle?
A couple of web sites put it was one item to throw in your shopping
basket (Openstep 4.2 Academic bundle Mcch/Intel)
Thanks.
-jeff
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXBench
Date: 25 Apr 1998 01:08:12 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6hrd1s$h48$1@news.seicom.net>
References: <Er8GEC.JzD@world.std.com> <6hnond$bha@california.uptime.ch>
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In <6hnond$bha@california.uptime.ch> Philippe C.D. Robert wrote:
> I will convert NXBench to OpenStep (i,s,n,rapsody i,ppc and yellow box)
> in Q2/Q3 this year. If you just want a NS binary check out peanuts.
>
> BTW if somebody knows of some very urgent nice-to-haves for NXBench,
> please send me a note!
Well, if you ask... put in some nice 3D rotating flying pigs or similar for
visual effect.... :-)
[Must be getting late...]
--
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* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
* "I have to go now, there are two men in white suits with a giant
* butterfly net at my door..."
From: sadahiro@cs.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: seagate barracuda(st15150wc) anyone?T
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 20:16:43 -0600
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6hrdhr$rqt$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hi, does anyone use sseagate barracuda(st15150wc)? I knwo it gets hot, but I
believe Cubes cooling is sufficient for it.
It is wide drive(68pin), but also converted to 50pins. I do not know what it
means. Does it mean it exactly behaves as 50pin connector? Or should I still
expect not working correctly? Here is spec I got.
Part Number ST15150WC
Formatted Capacity 4294 MB
External Transfer Rate 20 MB/s Sync., 6.9MB/s sustained
Fast Wide SCSI-2
Rotational Speed 7200 rpm
Average Access 8.0 ms - This is very fast! Just compare to other drives.
It doesn't get much better than this.
Average Latency 4.17 ms - How fast it seeks on the same cylinder. A
direct function of the
Rotational Speed of 7,200rpm. Very important number.
Buffer 1024 kB - Yes, that's 1 MegaByte!
Dimensions 4.0 x 1.63 x 5.97 in (3 1/2 in form factor, half height)
SCSI Connector 80-pin SCA
50-pin with adapter, add $24*
68-pin with adapter, add $49*
read more about SCA adapters
*Includes special savings offer
Does this mean that I can use EXACTLY as 50pin scsi-2 HD with 50pin adaptor?
If anyone out there uses this drive, please let me know.
Thanks a lot!
Makoto
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem installing Rhapsody
Date: 25 Apr 1998 00:57:02 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <6hrccu$rli$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
References: <3540CC9D.A8DE3852@navix.net>
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Cc: zansk@navix.net
Goto http://www.omnigroup.com and follow links to the 'Rhapsody-Talk' email
list.
Someone there can probably help
> please reply to mailto:zansk@navix.net
It is generally considered bad form to pop onto Usenet, ask a question, and
then vanish. A popular slogan is "Usenet is not write-only". By reading
Usenet you can find answers to questions by other people asking them, and can
contribute by offering answers that you know. If everyone just comes in,
asks a question, and goes away again, it hurts the whole community.
FYI/FWIW
TjL
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From: andydunn@op.net (Andy Dunn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP! Lighthouse Distiller install failure
Date: 25 Apr 1998 04:19:40 GMT
Organization: OpNet -- Greater Philadelphia Internet Service
Message-ID: <6hro8s$kpg$1@picasso.op.net>
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I just downloaded LighthouseDistiller from Peak, but I can't seem to install
it.
I'm failing trying to un-tar the package. I've tried a couple of different
options, and even installed a newer version of gnutar (1.1.12). This is on
NS 3.1 black.
Any suggestions?
TIA,
_andy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>gnutar -xvf LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b.gnutar
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/LighthouseDistiller.2.0.README
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/WARNING-README-REALLY-I-MEAN-IT.txt
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/
././@LongLink
gnutar: Unknown file type 'L' for ././@LongLink, extracted as normal file
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
././@LongLink
gnutar: Unknown file type 'L' for ././@LongLink, extracted as normal file
gnutar: Could not create file ././@LongLink : Permission denied
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
gnutar: Could not create file
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
: Is a directory
././@LongLink
gnutar: Unknown file type 'L' for ././@LongLink, extracted as normal file
gnutar: Could not create file ././@LongLink : Permission denied
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
gnutar: Could not create file
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
: Is a directory
././@LongLink
gnutar: Unknown file type 'L' for ././@LongLink, extracted as normal file
gnutar: Could not create file ././@LongLink : Permission denied
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
gnutar: Could not create file
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
: Is a directory
././@LongLink
gnutar: Unknown file type 'L' for ././@LongLink, extracted as normal file
gnutar: Could not create file ././@LongLink : Permission denied
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
gnutar: Could not create file
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
: Is a directory
././@LongLink
gnutar: Unknown file type 'L' for ././@LongLink, extracted as normal file
gnutar: Could not create file ././@LongLink : Permission denied
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
gnutar: Could not create file
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
: Is a directory
--------- archive listing can *see* the files, but I can't get at 'em...
gnutar -tvf LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b.gnutar
drwxr-xr-x luomat/next-ftp 0 Apr 20 20:08 1998
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/
-rw-r--r-- luomat/next-ftp 955 Apr 20 20:02 1998
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/LighthouseDistiller.2.0.README
-rw-r--r-- luomat/next-ftp 645 Apr 20 20:07 1998
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/WARNING-README-REALLY-I-MEAN-IT.txt
drwxr-xr-x luomat/next-ftp 0 Apr 20 20:08 1998
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/
?--------- root/wheel 105 Dec 31 19:00 1969 ././@LongLink unknown file
type 'L'
drwxr-xr-x luomat/next-ftp 0 Apr 20 20:08 1998
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
?--------- root/wheel 130 Dec 31 19:00 1969 ././@LongLink unknown file
type 'L'
-r--r--r-- luomat/next-ftp 2004625 Aug 7 12:18 1996
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
?--------- root/wheel 129 Dec 31 19:00 1969 ././@LongLink unknown
file type 'L'
-r--r--r-- luomat/next-ftp 710 Aug 7 12:18 1996
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
?--------- root/wheel 129 Dec 31 19:00 1969 ././@LongLink unknown
file type 'L'
-r--r--r-- luomat/next-ftp 1222 Aug 7 12:18 1996
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
?--------- root/wheel 128 Dec 31 19:00 1969 ././@LongLink unknown
file type 'L'
-rw-r--r-- luomat/next-ftp 16384 Aug 7 12:18 1996
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
?--------- root/wheel 130 Dec 31 19:00 1969 ././@LongLink unknown
file type 'L'
-rw-r--r-- luomat/next-ftp 50 Aug 7 12:18 1996
LighthouseDistiller.2.0.NIHS.b/Go-Here-Only-AFTER-you-read-the-WARNING-document/LighthouseDistiller
From: "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Many questions
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 23:37:16 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6hrpd8$1p4s$2@news.missouri.edu>
Dear all NeXT Experts,
I have several questions regarding both software and hardwares. Since there
might be some interaction between them. Therefore, I include all questions
and post them in 3 newsgroups, hope you don't mind.
1) This is the popular question but I can't find it in any FAQ, though..
I'd like to connect my PC to the NeXT. I'm using 10BaseT interface to the
hub by RJ45 and I have BJ45 from NeXT to that hub. Well, my question is,
how can I make my PC sees NeXT and vice versa. Also, is it possible to
share the printers between two systems?
2) Since NeXT already have SCSI interface, what is the interfacing? I saw on
the back system looks like SCSI-2 but in the manual said it's SCSI(I assume
it's SCSI). In addition, there are some venders sell SCSI-2 to SCSI-1
interface... If I have external SCSI-CD-ROM Drive, which is the SCSI-2..
Can I use it with NeXT? If so, how can I do it??? I'd love to have my NeXT
talks to CD...
3) Do you think we can use ZIP driv(SCSI) with NeXT?
4) I can't download any software and use it in NeXT. I download the
software on PC and copy them to NeXT (my NeXT doesn't have internet
connection and I don't want to since my PC is more
powerful-Pentium-II-400MHz). Most of them is .tar file. After I copied to
NeXT, it shows icon as TAR (that makes me happy for a while). But when I
click at it, it said that, I need to "unarchieve" by using tar command????
Can't I double click it directly????? What should I do if I want to download
from my PC and transfer to NeXT???(This will be better if I can LAN my PC to
NeXT).
5) What is the best -in your opinion- of Integrated Development Environment
(IDE) for NeXT? Where can I get it?
6) Is it possible to port my code to run on NeXT (and vice versa)?
Thank you for the bandwidth and your time to read my questions(and answer my
questions). I'm sorry if those questions offend you if I post in the wrong
newsgroups.
Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you very much for your suggestions. Any
comments are most welcome...
Your Sincerely,
Sarawoot Chittratanawat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Subject: Re: Winword 6.1 running on SoftPC4.0?
Message-ID: <Eryuws.78@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Organization: Private
References: <6hhga3$do3@nnrp4.farm.idt.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 11:07:39 GMT
In article <6hhga3$do3@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
writes:
>
>
> Has anybody succesfully installed MSoffice4.2c using SoftPC. Excel seems to
> work fine. But, Word is a piece of shit. If anybody was successful running
> Word6.1, please let me know. I might need your help. Thanks in advance.
In SoftPC 4.1 I have successfully installed the Japanese
version of MSOffice 4.2 Standard and am successfully running
Word6.0 (Japanese) in both window and full screen modes.
There is a problem in saving the standard .dot file (it has a
Japanese file name) but it is not a serious one.
---
Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji
hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: russ@next.cns.utoronto.ca (Russell P. Sutherland)
Subject: Openstep 4.2 and NextStep 3.2
Organization: University of Toronto Computing and Network Services.
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 04:33:20 GMT
Message-ID: <EryCnL.K90@alfalfa.utcs.utoronto.ca>
Sender: newsadm@alfalfa.utcs.utoronto.ca (nntp inews)
How much memory does one need to make OS 4.2 and NS 3.2
"feel" about the same speed, running on a NeXTstation color
turbo machine?
From: a@b.c
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.nsc,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,comp.sys.pen
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Date: 25 Apr 1998 12:46:22 GMT
Organization: FREE $$$
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about an hour of your time, you could earn a year's salary in a month.
Sounds to good to be true, but just imagine. WHAT IF?
A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like
you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you
could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial
investment of $6.00!
So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam!" but like most of us, I
was curious. Like most of us, I kept reading. Anyway, it said that if
you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and addresses stated in the
article, you could make thousands in a very short period of time. You then place
your own name and address at the bottom of the list at #6, and post the
article to at least 200 newsgroups. (There are about 22,000.) or e-mail
them to friends, or e-mailing lists...
No catch, that was it.
Even though the investment was a measly $6, I had three questions that
needed to be answered before I could get involved in this sort of thing.
1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL?
I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I would
actually make any money but he said it WAS LEGAL if I wanted to try it.
I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter but the details of the
system (SEE BELOW) actually made it a legitimate legal business.
2. Would the Post Office be ok with this...?
I called them: 1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS ABSOLUTELY
LEGAL!
(See Title 18,h sections 1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws). This
clarifies the program of collecting names and addresses for a mailing
list.
3. Is this moral?
Well, everyone who sends me a buck has a good chance of getting A LOT
of money ... a much better chance than buying a lottery ticket!
So, having these questions answered, I invested EXACTLY $7.92 ... six
$1.00 bills and six 32 cent postage stamps ... and boy am I glad I did!
Within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I
still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it another thought. But the
money just continued coming in. In my first week, I made about $20.00 to
$30.00 dollars. By the end of the second week I had a mad total of $1,000.00!
In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it was still growing. This is
now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and
it's still coming in.....
It's certainly worth $6.00 and 6 stamps!
So now I'm reposting this so I can make even more money! The *ONLY*
thing stopping *ANYONE* from enriching their own bank account is pure
laziness!
It took me all of 5 MINUTES to print this out, follow the directions,
and begin posting to newsgroups. It took me a mere 45 minutes to post
to over 200 newsgroups. And for this GRAND TOTAL investment of $ 7.92 (US)
and under ONE HOUR of my time, I have reaped an incredible amount of
money
--
like nothing I've ever even heard of anywhere before!
'Nuff said!
Let me tell you how this works, and most importantly, why it works.
Also, make sure you print a copy of this article now, so you can get the
information off of it when you need it. The process is very simple and
consists of THREE easy steps.
============
HOW IT WORKS
============
STEP 1:
------
Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of
paper:
PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST.
$1 US DOLLAR PROCESSING FEE IS ENCLOSED.
(THIS IS KEY AS THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT LEGAL SINCE YOU ARE
PAYING FOR AND
LATER OFFERING A SERVICE).
Now get 6 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper
so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent theft/robbery.
Then, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You
should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating
the above phrase and an U.S. $1.00 bill.
Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:
#1- R Sauter
3500 Crescent Ct
Flower Mound, TX 75028
USA
#2- Catherine Watkins
P.O. Box 67
Chapel Hill, NC 27514-0067
USA
#3- Brett Brandon
807 Brooks Av.
Madison, Tn 37115
USA
#4- B Jones
0504 E. 600 N.
LaPorte, IN 46350
USA
#5- tepinga trust
15 Victor Street
Avondale, Auckland 1007
New Zealand
#6- Mike Ericson
P.O. Box 1211
Burnsville, MN 55337
USA
STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc.) and add YOUR Name as
number 6 on the list. (If you want to remain anonymous put a nickname,
but the address MUST be correct. It, of course, MUST contain your
country, state/district/area, zip code, etc! You wouldn't want your money to fly
away, wouldn't you?).
STEP 3: Now post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups.
Remember that 200 postings are just a guideline. The more you post, the
more money you make!
Don't know HOW to post in the news groups? Well do exactly the
following:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS FAST WITH YOUR WEB
BROWSER:
The fastest way to post a newsletter: Highlight and COPY
(Ctrl-C) the text of this posted message and PASTE (Ctrl-V) it into a
plain text editor (as Wordpad) and save it. After you have made the
necessary changes that are stated above, simply COPY (Ctrl-C) and PASTE (Ctrl-V)
the text into the message composition window, after selecting a
newsgroup, and post it! (Or you can attach the file, without writing anything to
the message window.)
------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you have Netscape Navigator 3.0 do the following:
1. Click on any newsgroup like normal, then click on 'TO NEWS'. This
will bring up a box to type a message in.
2. Leave the newsgroup box like it is, change the subject box to
something flashy, something to catch the eye, as "$$$ NEED CASH $$$?
READ HERE! $! $! $" Or "$$$! MAKE FAST CASH, YOU CAN'T LOSE! $$$". Or you can
use my subject title.
3. Now click on 'ATTACHMENTS'. Then click on 'ATTACH FILE'. Find your
file on your Hard Disk (the one you saved from the text editor). Once
you find it, click on it and then click 'OPEN' and 'OK'. You should now see
your file name in the attachments box.
4. Now click on 'SEND'/'POST'. You see? Now you just have 199 to go!
(Don't worry, it's easy and quick once you get used to it.) NOTE: All
the versions of Netscape Navigator's are similar to each other, so you'll
have no problem to do this if you don't have Netscape Navigator 3.0.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
! QUICK TIP!
(For Netscape Navigator 3.x and above)
You can post this message to many newsgroups at a time, by simply
selecting a newsgroup near the top of the screen, hold
down the SHIFT, and then select a newsgroup near the bottom of the
screen. All of the newsgroups in/between will be selected. After that, you
follow/do the basic steps, stated below at this letter, except of step #1.
You can go to the page stated below in this letter and click on a
newsgroup to open up the newsgroups window. Once you've done this, in the same
window go to 'OPTIONS', and then mark 'SHOW ALL NEWSGROUPS' and 'SHOW
ALL MESSAGES'.
Now you can see all the newsgroups and you can apply easier the above
tip.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you have MS Internet Explorer do the following:
1. Go to the newsgroups and press 'POST AN ARTICLE'. To the new
window type your headline in the subject area and then click in the
large window below.
There either PASTE your letter (which it's been copied from the text
editor), or attach the file which contains it.
2. Then click on 'SEND' or 'OK'. NOTE: All versions of MS Internet
Explorer are similar to each other, so you won't have any problem doing
this.
GENERAL NOTES ON POSTING: A nice page where you'll find all the
newsgroups if you want help is http://www.liszt.com/ (When you go to the
home page, click on the link 'Newsgroup Directory'). But I don't think
you'll have any problem posting because it's very easy once you've
found the newsgroups. All these web browsers are similar. It doesn't
matter which one you have. (But it makes it very easy if you have
Netscape Navigator 3.0 or later. You may download it from the Internet if you
don't have it.) You just have to remember the basic steps, stated below.
BASIC STEPS FOR POSTING:
1. Find a newsgroup and you click on it.
2. You click on 'POST AN/NEW ARTICLE' or 'TO NEWS' or anything else
similar to these.
3. You type your flashy headline in the subject box.
4. Now, either you attach the file containing your amended letter, or
you PASTE the letter. (You have to COPY it from the text editor, of
course, from before.)
5. Finally, you click on 'SEND' or 'POST' or 'OK', whatever is there.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE
MONEY YOU WILL MAKE! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**
That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within
days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount
of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a
name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it.
**JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT. **
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
=================
Now the WHY part:
=================
Out of 200 postings; say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example).
So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the
5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each
with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of
the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make
200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will
bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post
the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies
each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part,
each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2
and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00! Those
3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at
#1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625,00!
With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! And as I said 5
responses is actually VERY LOW! Average are probable 20 to 30! So lets
put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is what you will make:
at #6 $15.00
at #5 $225.00
at #4 $3,375.00
at #3 $50,625.00
at #2 $759,375.00
at #1 $11,390,625.00
When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the
list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing
to remember is, do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are
joining the internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU
are now!
So can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works? I think so... People
have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the
money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new
honest users and new honest people who are joining the internet and
newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at
20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining
the actual Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will
work. You just have to be honest.
By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with
your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the
people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew
someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that's after
seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 6 $1.00 bills, people added him
to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and
most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without
costing anything but our time! You also may want to buy mailing and
e-mail lists for future dollars. Make sure you print this article out
RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and
always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly.
Remember that HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the
basic idea to make the money!
GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from
this, which is tons of extra CASH. Please remember to declare your extra
income. Thanks once again...
===========================================================
==========
LEGAL? ? ? (Comments from Bob Novak who started this new version.)
"People have asked me if this is really legal. Well, it is! You are
using the Internet to advertise you business. What is that business? You are
assembling a mailing list of people who are interested in home based
computer and online business and methods of generating income at home.
Remember that people send you a small fee to be added to your mailing
list.
It is legal. What will you do with your list of thousands of names?
Compile all of them into a database and sell them as "Mailing Lists"
on the internet in a similar manner, if you wish, and make more money.
How do you think you get all the junk mail that you do? Credit card
companies, mail order, Utilities, anyone you deal with through the mail
can sell your name and address on a mailing list, unless you ask them
not to, in addition to there regular business, So, why not do the same
with the list you collect. You can find more info about "Mailing Lists"
on the internet using any search engine.
." So, build your mailing list, keep good accounts, declare the
income and pay your taxes. By doing this you prove your business
intentions. Keep an eye on the newsgroups and when the cash has stopped
coming (that means your name is no longer on the list), you just take
the latest posting at the newsgroups, send another $6.00 to the names
stated on the list, make your corrections (put your name at #6) and start
posting again.
===========================================================
NOTES:
*1. In some countries, the export of the country's exchange is illegal.
But you can get the license to do this from the post office, explaining
the above statements (that you have an online business,
etc. You may have to pay an extra tax, but that's OK, the amount of the
incoming money is HUGE! And as I said, a few countries have that
restriction.
*2. You may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars. (Or
Database or Spreadsheet software.)
*3. If you're really not sure or still think this can't be for real,
please print a copy of this article and pass it along to someone who
really needs the money, and see what happens.
*4. You should start getting responses within 1-2 weeks.
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From: Wassim M Jabi <jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for Software
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 08:52:32 -0500
Organization: University At Buffalo
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To: NOSPAMpriem@his.com
Royce Priem wrote:
>
> Hello all -
>
> I'm looking for the version of Renderman or other animation packages
> that ran under NS 3.3. If anyone has a copy they would like to sell or
> trade, please contact me. Thanks in advance...
>
> Regards,
>
> Royce
I think you are looking for solidThinking from Gestel:
http://www.gestel.com/
The latest version they had for NeXTSTEP works with Renderman as well as
BMRT.
--
Wassim Jabi, Asst. Professor University at Buffalo
mailto:wj@writeme.com Department of Architecture
http://www.buffalo.edu/~jabi Hayes Hall
Tel: +1 716.829.3483 Ext.323 3435 Main St.
Fax: +1 716.829.3256 Buffalo, NY 14214-3087
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP! Lighthouse Distiller install failure
Date: 25 Apr 1998 15:46:08 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <6ht0g0$dt$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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In <6hro8s$kpg$1@picasso.op.net> Andy Dunn wrote:
> I'm failing trying to un-tar the package. I've tried a couple of different
> options, and even installed a newer version of gnutar (1.1.12).
That is the version I used to create the archive (GNU tar version 1.11.2)
> This is on NS 3.1 black.
Hrm. I wonder if that's the problem.
I have a m68k-only binary that's .tar.gz (not gnutar.gz)
It is 286263 bytes. I could email it to you or let you FTP it from my
machine directly.
Drop me a line.
If others experience a similar problem, please let me know.
TjL
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openstep 4.2 and NextStep 3.2
Date: 25 Apr 1998 16:16:43 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <6ht29b$dt$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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In <EryCnL.K90@alfalfa.utcs.utoronto.ca> Russell P. Sutherland wrote:
> How much memory does one need to make OS 4.2 and NS 3.2
> "feel" about the same speed, running on a NeXTstation color
> turbo machine?
That would depend somewhat on how much RAM you had using 3.2 :-)
I have heard folks say that 64 is a good baseline for OpenStep under NeXT
hardware.
Of course if you were using 64 with 3.2 that might slow down a bit!
I either heard or am making up that I heard someone say +16MB was a good
guide....
TjL
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Many questions
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 25 Apr 1998 16:10:51 GMT
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
In <6hrpd8$1p4s$2@news.missouri.edu> "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" wrote:
> I have several questions regarding both software and hardwares. Since
there
> might be some interaction between them. Therefore, I include all questions
> and post them in 3 newsgroups, hope you don't mind.
1) you did not crosspost them correctly. To crosspost "correctly" put all
the groups in ONE message separated by commas. This makes it easier for
people who are using modern Usenet readers to see only one copy of it. Also
if you do crosspost, set a Followups-To line. This is very easy using
RadicalNews
2) You would be better off posting your software questions in 'csn.software'
and your hardware questions in csn.hardware. That way the posts are smaller,
easier to read, and entirely on topic for that group
3) Please do not crosspost to csn.misc. It is designed to be a group for
questions that don't fit anywhere else, so if you post to csn.hardware then
you shouldn't post to csn.misc
> 1) This is the popular question but I can't find it in any FAQ, though..
> I'd like to connect my PC to the NeXT. I'm using 10BaseT interface to the
> hub by RJ45 and I have BJ45 from NeXT to that hub. Well, my question is,
> how can I make my PC sees NeXT and vice versa. Also, is it possible to
> share the printers between two systems?
Samba will allow you to share files and printers.
See
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/networks/SambaManager.1.0.2.NIHS.b.tar.gz
> 2) Since NeXT already have SCSI interface, what is the interfacing? I saw
on
> the back system looks like SCSI-2 but in the manual said it's SCSI(I assume
> it's SCSI). In addition, there are some venders sell SCSI-2 to SCSI-1
> interface... If I have external SCSI-CD-ROM Drive, which is the SCSI-2..
> Can I use it with NeXT? If so, how can I do it??? I'd love to have my NeXT
> talks to CD...
It is SCSI-2 IIRC
Yes you can connect another SCSI-2 device to it, or use a SCSI-2--SCSI-1
cable
> 3) Do you think we can use ZIP driv(SCSI) with NeXT?
Yes, many people do. See
http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html for more
> 4) I can't download any software and use it in NeXT. I download the
> software on PC and copy them to NeXT (my NeXT doesn't have internet
> connection and I don't want to since my PC is more
> powerful-Pentium-II-400MHz). Most of them is .tar file. After I copied to
> NeXT, it shows icon as TAR (that makes me happy for a while). But when I
> click at it, it said that, I need to "unarchieve" by using tar command????
> Can't I double click it directly????? What should I do if I want to
download
> from my PC and transfer to NeXT???(This will be better if I can LAN my PC
to
> NeXT).
The panel that comes up should offer to un-tar it for you.
The best idea is to get Opener.app
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/archiveutil/Opener.3.3.N.b.tar.gz
Put that on your Dock (after ungzip and untar) and it will handle .tar and
.tar.gz etc automatically (and a whole lot more!)
> 5) What is the best -in your opinion- of Integrated Development Environment
> (IDE) for NeXT? Where can I get it?
No idea
> 6) Is it possible to port my code to run on NeXT (and vice versa)?
If it is regular C code, then yes. Some code looks for header files or
kernel support not present in the NeXT, so that won't work, but much will
> Thank you for the bandwidth and your time to read my questions(and answer
my
> questions). I'm sorry if those questions offend you if I post in the wrong
> newsgroups.
It doesn't offend me per se, but it would be nicer if they were posted just
in the one appropriate newsgroup. Most people here read all the groups and
they are not so busy that your post is likely to be unseen if you post it to
just one group.
TjL
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From: andydunn@op.net (Andy Dunn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP! Lighthouse Distiller install failure
Date: 25 Apr 1998 17:05:48 GMT
Organization: OpNet -- Greater Philadelphia Internet Service
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In <6ht0g0$dt$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy Luoma wrote:
> In <6hro8s$kpg$1@picasso.op.net> Andy Dunn wrote:
>
> > I'm failing trying to un-tar the package. I've tried a couple of
different
> > options, and even installed a newer version of gnutar (1.1.12).
>
...
Doh!
Might help if I then *use* the new version of gnutar...
I still get "Error while printing" trying to use Distiller (and I did make
the specified change to the services file). What have I done wrong?? Does
this not work on NS 3.1?
Feelin' like a newbie,
_andy
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite Broken Under OpenStep 4.2
Message-ID: <1998042519513400.PAA28727@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 25 Apr 1998 19:51:34 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6hqakg$4ci$1@news.cs.ucla.edu>
There is a fix for this, essentially, just renaming some files to persuade it
to work.
I've a copy of the instructions for this at home--e-mail me if you can't find
it via DejaNews, I believe it was a thread about Equation Builder.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Brian Vito" <bvito@tiac.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteUp/PasteUp good?
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 18:10:37 -0400
Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc.
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I just purchased OPENSTEP 4.2 (running on Intel) and, of course, I need a word
processor, and a page layout tool is always good. What's the best? I know
that WriteUp/PasteUp are still being developed and supported, but are they the
best tools?
What about FrameMaker (ever on intel), WordPerfect, OpenWrite, WriteNow, etc.?
Please help me decide (I'm on a limited budget) - email me please, don't post.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp/PasteUp good?
Date: 25 Apr 1998 23:20:40 GMT
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In <01HW.B167D79D0001F08506719BD0@news.tiac.net> "Brian Vito" wrote:
> I just purchased OPENSTEP 4.2 (running on Intel) and, of course, I need a
word
> processor, and a page layout tool is always good. What's the best? I know
> that WriteUp/PasteUp are still being developed and supported, but are they
the
> best tools?
> What about FrameMaker (ever on intel), WordPerfect, OpenWrite, WriteNow,
etc.?
> Please help me decide (I'm on a limited budget) - email me please, don't
post.
>
>
OpenWrite is free, you can pick up a 2 user license on Peak. WordPerfect, I
wasn't able to get a copy, so I am not sure about and WriteNow ( was never
supported on Intel hardware). You can try to download a demo version of
FrameMaker and see if you like it and maybe, someone will sell you their
license. Again, Adobe is not selling FrameMaker3.2 to NeXT users. WriteUp
is OK, is pretty good and it does support convert some WordPerfect and Word
files. My Personal favorite is CedarWord. It is not very expensive and it
does the job very well. It cost about 30 Pounds, I think that translates to
about $45-50 US. It was worth every cent. It has (although some users will
not agree with me) a clean UI. Kind of like Wordperfect 3.0 for Macintosh.
Anyway, I suggest downloading the demos and trying them out before you go
ahead try to buy. The only supported word processor that is still suppported
is WriteUP and CedarWord. Everything else is gone. I use a combination of
OpenWrite and CedarWord to word process. I use OpenWrite to Convert files
and save them in RTF to be used later with CedarWord (CedarWord does not
import MS Word files, although future support will include such a function),
this serve me very well.
I also suggest investing in SuperDraw4.0 before they stop selling it again.
Jay Lee
echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
NeXTMail & MIME OK!
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp/PasteUp good?
Date: 25 Apr 1998 23:21:51 GMT
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In <01HW.B167D79D0001F08506719BD0@news.tiac.net> "Brian Vito" wrote:
> I just purchased OPENSTEP 4.2 (running on Intel) and, of course, I need a
word
> processor, and a page layout tool is always good. What's the best? I know
> that WriteUp/PasteUp are still being developed and supported, but are they
the
> best tools?
I would recommend them.... AFS is in for the long haul, they are already
working on Rhapsody ports.
> What about FrameMaker (ever on intel), WordPerfect, OpenWrite, WriteNow,
etc.?
You won't be likely to find FrameMaker license, or WP.
OpenWrite is dead, as is WriteNow
> email me please, don't post.
Why should we email you when you came to the Usenet group asking for help?
Usenet is a 2 way street you know? You could at least take the time to find
replies to your own questions... that's not a lot to ask.
TjL
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jipekau@engmail.uwaterloo.ca (J Pekau)
Subject: SynthBuilder
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Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 00:56:06 GMT
Hi-
Considering getting a NextCUBE to run SynthBuilder as a synthesis tool. Is the
current version (Beta27) stable? A cube can be had for $400 CDN, so it's not
that big a risk. Still, I'd like to know. Email me directly:
jipekau@engmail.uwaterloo.ca
Jan Pekau
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
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Date: 26 Apr 1998 03:50:15 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
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Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
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Very well maintained.
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From: iant@interpage.net (Ian Tait)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: BackSpace Dual Headed ?
Date: 26 Apr 1998 12:50:25 GMT
Message-ID: <6hvaih$1md@milan.demon.co.uk>
Anyone know if/how one can run BackSpace as a screensaver or as a
"background" on both the Monochrome and Colour monitors on a dual
headed dimension system, at the same time ?
It does work if you select the "normal" (window) view from the
settings panel...
Cheers,
Ian
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp/PasteUp good?
Date: 26 Apr 1998 18:35:06 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
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Timothy Luoma (nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org) wrote:
: In <01HW.B167D79D0001F08506719BD0@news.tiac.net> "Brian Vito" wrote:
: > I just purchased OPENSTEP 4.2 (running on Intel) and, of course, I need a
: word
: > processor, and a page layout tool is always good. What's the best? I know
: > that WriteUp/PasteUp are still being developed and supported, but are they
: the
: > best tools?
: I would recommend them.... AFS is in for the long haul, they are already
: working on Rhapsody ports.
I heartily recommend PasteUp for page layout and such. It is a fine
product, and by far the nicest program I've used for any highly graphical
or layout-intensive documents. The free-form nature of the program is so
pleasant to use, and really shows the kind of things people do with
NeXTSTEP that you just don't see under Windows/Mac.
As for word processors, I still don't really like any of them on NeXTSTEP,
and I've used all of them. I still reboot into Windows to run MS Word
anytime I need to do a long document. I use Edit for short things. First
off, I like the way Word works in terms of interface. Also very important
is that I primarily write documents for electronic distribution to
customers, who inevitably run Word. Also, the file filters for OpenWrite
and WriteUp are woefully inadequate for modern Word and WordPerfect
documents, and I have to waste so much time reformatting them. The filters
are OK if you just want the text, but no good at all for highly-formatted
documents.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | Computers are useless.
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | They can only give you answers.
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) |
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From: Frederic Foucault <ff48@columbia.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: search in RadicalNews
Date: 26 Apr 1998 23:06:29 GMT
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Hi,
How to search into newsgroups with Radicalnews?
Thanks,
Sincerely,
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Subject: Licensing Old Apps (Was Re: WriteUp/PasteUp good?)
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From: root@127.0.0.1
Date: 26 Apr 98 11:28:44 MDT
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In <6htr6f$dt$18@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy Luoma wrote:
> In <01HW.B167D79D0001F08506719BD0@news.tiac.net> "Brian Vito" wrote:
> > What about FrameMaker (ever on intel), WordPerfect, OpenWrite, WriteNow,
> > etc.?
>
> You won't be likely to find FrameMaker license, or WP.
>
> OpenWrite is dead, as is WriteNow
Since Adobe won't sell licenses any more, let me pose a hypothetical
question. Suppose a person were to have written an easy-to-apply
patch which disables the Licensing checks... Would it be legal to
distribute such a patch...? Purely hypothetical of course... ;-)
Would the resident lawyers like to comment on this? John Kheit perhaps?
Just curious.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp/PasteUp good?
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com>
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <3543d8b9.0@206.25.228.5>
Date: 27 Apr 98 01:00:41 GMT
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) wrote:
> As for word processors, I still don't really like any of them on
> NeXTSTEP, and I've used all of them. I still reboot into Windows
> to run MS Word anytime I need to do a long document. I use Edit
> for short things. First off, I like the way Word works in terms
> of interface. Also very important is that I primarily write
> documents for electronic distribution to customers, who inevitably
> run Word. Also, the file filters for OpenWrite and WriteUp are
> woefully inadequate for modern Word and WordPerfect documents,
> and I have to waste so much time reformatting them. The filters
> are OK if you just want the text, but no good at all for
> highly-formatted documents.
Frame kicks tushy for long documents. Of course it doesn't export
to anything else, on any platform. Well, except to older frame
versions and plain text. Too bad.
As for the UI for word, well let's just say we disagree, alot.
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; self expressed...
__________________________________________________________________
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From: rriley@yahoo.com (Rex Riley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp/PasteUp good?
Date: 27 Apr 1998 03:45:58 GMT
Organization: @Home Network
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In <01HW.B167D79D0001F08506719BD0@news.tiac.net> "Brian Vito" wrote:
> I just purchased OPENSTEP 4.2 (running on Intel) and, of course, I need a
word
> processor, and a page layout tool is always good. What's the best? I know
> that WriteUp/PasteUp are still being developed and supported, but are they
the
> best tools?
> What about FrameMaker (ever on intel), WordPerfect, OpenWrite, WriteNow,
etc.?
> Please help me decide (I'm on a limited budget) - email me please, don't
post.
>
>
PasteUp is a most handy tool on OPENSTEP. It's usefulness has outlasted all
other .apps I have bought over the years. PasteUp simply spoils you.
Wordprocessors? They are good and I've used all but Cedarword. Ulitmately,
the choice boils down to your file "format" strategy as another poster
alluded.
-r
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Daydream & Mac OS 7.6
Date: 26 Apr 1998 23:51:18 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6i19t6$nmm@slip.net>
Hi,
Can Daydream be used with Mac OS 7.6?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: Ryan Woodsmall <c716128@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: S3 Drivers and NeXTStep 3.3
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 06:11:43 +0000
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
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Hiya,
I recently bought a used copy of NeXTStep 3.3 user, and I got a chance
to install it yesterday. When the installation completed, the machine
would only boot in verbose mode, but it finally did come up. Then it
was time to configure everything.
The first thing I did was to try the S3 drivers that come with NS 3.3 -
I have a generic S3 ViRGE/DX PCI card with 4Meg RAM in my machine. This
didn't work, so I defaulted back to regular VGA mode and downloaded the
S3 Generic and S3 ViRGE drivers and installed them. When I change my
card out of Configure.app, it seems to be finding 8M of RAM. I tried to
use the default 640x480x8bit@60Hz, but I get junk on my monitor when I
boot back up. When I boot verbosely, it finds my card as an
S3 ViRGE/DX (4096 K RAM)
I read that a generic ViRGE card with 4M of VRAM or DRAM would work with
the S3 Generic drivers. I'm not sure if it's the driver messing up or
what. I think that when it "finds" 8192k or RAM, it maps it all wrong,
throwing everything out of sink. I'm not exactly sure what to do.
My card works fine in Linux and OpenBSD, but I don't think NeXT's S3
drivers like it too much. Has anyone else had this problem and been
able to solve it? Is there anything I can do short of buying a new
video card? Thanks in advance.
--
Ryan Woodsmall
woody@cdsinet.net
c716128@showme.missouri.edu
From: jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!!
Date: 27 Apr 1998 10:45:05 GMT
Organization: Idiom Communications
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I've had OpenWrite sitting around in my /LocalApps ever since a client sent
me a bunch of OW docs to fill me in on a project they were doing. I just got
around to looking through their demo docs, and I have got to say, I am
impressed. Being able to embed user-generated postscript code is incredible.
If there's any justice in the world, this app has got to come back from the
black hole of JavaSoft. If sun used this as the jumping-off point for an app
to replace FrameMaker, PageMaker, and MicroSquish Word, they could have the
best product in this field.
AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!
(Oh, well: At least Rhapsody's coming, and another crew like Xanthus might
give us an even better app.)
-jcr
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp/PasteUp good?
Date: 27 Apr 1998 11:32:46 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
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In <01HW.B167D79D0001F08506719BD0@news.tiac.net> "Brian Vito" wrote:
> I just purchased OPENSTEP 4.2 (running on Intel) and, of course, I need a
word
> processor, and a page layout tool is always good. What's the best? I know
> that WriteUp/PasteUp are still being developed and supported, but are they
the
> best tools?
> What about FrameMaker (ever on intel), WordPerfect, OpenWrite, WriteNow,
etc.?
> Please help me decide (I'm on a limited budget) - email me please, don't
post.
>
For a limited budget it's hard to do better than the free copy of OpenWrite
that's now available (for license strings see the ftp.peak.org archives).
That said, OpenWrite is by no means my favourite WP, and of course it's an
obselete product that I'd be wary of committing new files to. I'd prefer
WriteUp as a medium level word processor, and on a more limited budget would
be happy to get by with CedarWord. The latter has the advantages of being
very cheap, surprisingly functional, and it uses RTF as its native format.
It's a simple product that works very well.
For page layout I use PasteUp, and for more formal documents FrameMaker, each
of which is good at its job, and neither of which would satisfy your
requirements of being affordable on a limited budget...
Best wishes,
mmalc.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Licensing Old Apps (Was Re: WriteUp/PasteUp good?)
Message-ID: <1998042713520500.JAA02698@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 27 Apr 1998 13:52:05 GMT
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As regards patches to disable licensing.
Interestingly, this is an old issue for NeXTstep--one old patch which was once
upon a time posted to comp.sys.next (this would've been back before the
newsgroup split) was a patch to disable the licensing scheme for Mathematica
which some people viewed as draconian.
On the legal front, I don't think there'd be a way to post it without attention
from Adobe's legal staff. Their copyright is contingent on their controlling
the copying of their software. If they can be shown to've been negligent in
that a court can hold that they've waived their rights. (vast simplification
here, I am not a lawyer.)
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Licensing Old Apps (Was Re: WriteUp/PasteUp good?)
Date: 27 Apr 1998 14:22:27 GMT
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In <1998042713520500.JAA02698@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
> On the legal front, I don't think there'd be a way to post it without
attention
> from Adobe's legal staff.
If it was just for the NeXT/Intel/HP NeXTstep version, I doubt they would
really care. If it were posted from the public library general access
computer through dejanews it would probably be hard enough to track that it
wouldn't be worth it... I mean these people refuse to sell licenses to people
who beg for them.
I'm not saying anyone should do it, or that it would be legal or ethical,
just that I don't think Adobe gives a flip....
TjL
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From: cdvorak@earthlink.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Daydream & Mac OS 7.6
Date: 27 Apr 1998 14:56:23 GMT
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In <6i19t6$nmm@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can Daydream be used with Mac OS 7.6?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Emmett
>
>
The docs say Mac OS 7.5 is the highest it will handle.
I never tried 7.6
From: carl@einstein.ucr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Rhapsody on notebook: what's needed?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:41:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
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Hi there,
I'm posting this to the .software group too, since it's partly a question
about what Rhapsody User will *look* like.
I'm considering getting a notebook computer (IBM, Compaq or Toshiba most
likely), as
prices have finally begun to drop into my neighborhood. Here are some of my
questions:
1. Screen: for OS 4.2, it seems 1024x768 is the minimum. I can't yet
afford the 13.3" XGA screens, only a 12.1". My sense is this will things
too small to read easily -- true?
Hence the real question: will Rhapsody be better optimized for
800x600 displays than OS has been? (I actually like Windows 95 on 80x600
better than 1024x768, even on my 17" monitor.) Should I wait until I can
get at *least* 13.3" and XGA, or not?
2. processor: will Rhapsody work on Pentium IIs as well as Pentiums? What
about K6's?
3. How much RAM will I need to make a P166mmx or better processor do well on
Rhapsody?
Thanks for any help!
Carl
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From: "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Rumba?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:28:46 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6i34d8$j0m$1@news.missouri.edu>
Dear NeXT Experts,
Have you guys heard about "RUMBA"? I was told "RUMBA" is a software to
connect from NeXT to PC. I saw only Samba -PC to NeXT. Surfingon peak.org
but found no luck.
Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you very much.
Your Sincerely,
Sarawoot
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright)
Subject: Re: WriteUp/PasteUp good?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
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I agree with the file format dilemma. Being a NeXTophile, I'd love to
keep working with native apps on my Color Turbo. But alas, lack
of conformity with all my clients makes my WP of choice Word. No matter
how hard we try to keep the platform alive....we're in trouble.
Anyway, I use Openwrite, and it is actually very nice. I export
everything into and older Word format, which clients can import easily
into Word 97.
Too bad Quantrix is not available on Windows hunh? Excel still sucks bad.
-Darren
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From: Jochen_Richter@t-online.de (Jochen Richter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BackSpace Dual Headed ?
Date: 27 Apr 1998 07:09:04 GMT
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Ian Tait schrieb:
>
> Anyone know if/how one can run BackSpace as a screensaver or as a
> "background" on both the Monochrome and Colour monitors on a dual
> headed dimension system, at the same time ?
>
> It does work if you select the "normal" (window) view from the
> settings panel...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ian
Backspace itself doesn't work, but Backspace as part of Fiend 1.4 does.
Jochen Richter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:51:54 +0100
From: Jan Ulrich Hasecke <juh@pironet.de>
Subject: Re: OneVision
In-Reply-To: <353629A0.7DFA@hers.com>
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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Wendy Urban wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience with OneVision? Is it a decent
> application?
I have. It is marvelous, but perhaps it is more a program for
Digital-Printers or lithografic studios. But I have created a lot of
layouts. You can see some of them on my homepage: Go to "Werbung"
(Advertising) and get the PDF-File of my works I created with the
OneVision-PDF-Destiller.
-juh---
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From: Mark de Does <M.de.Does@inter.nl.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OpenWrite Broken Under OpenStep 4.2 (->fix)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:04:05 +0200
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Eskandar Ensafi wrote:
> Hi,
> Ever since I installed OpenStep 4.2, the Spelling Checker in OpenWrite
> 2.1.8 (last and latest version) no longer works properly (actually, it
> doesn't work at all).
>
> Is there a workaround to this problem, or does this mean that I should
> dump OpenWrite altogether?
I submitted NextStep 3.3 spell checkers that work with OpenWrite to
peanuts.leo.org last weekend. (Today is April 28, 1998 ) Within a few
days, they should be available to the outside world.
The previous versions were to be found as
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/NEXTSTEP/text/services/Ortho.* I assume that what I
submitted this weekend will land in the same location.
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From: Timothy J Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid-address@luomat.peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite Broken Under OpenStep 4.2 (->fix)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:15:54 -0400
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On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Mark de Does wrote:
> I submitted NextStep 3.3 spell checkers that work with OpenWrite to
> peanuts.leo.org last weekend. (Today is April 28, 1998 ) Within a few
> days, they should be available to the outside world.
How does one use the 3.3 ones in place of the 4.x ones?
TjL
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp/PasteUp good?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:48:13 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
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In <3543d8b9.0@206.25.228.5> John Kheit wrote:
>
> As for the UI for word, well let's just say we disagree, alot.
Yes, it's primitive. And buggy, sometimes destroys documents. Glad to have a
backup ready, therefore just need to retype 1/2 day of work.
Ever tried the picture-drawing features of WORD? Even simple flowcharts are a
nightmare. The German spell checker doesn't know the seldom used word
"internet". And so on.
I wonder how many millions of $$ are wasted worldwide just because of this
one crap of software.
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quantrix/Excel/Improv
Date: 28 Apr 1998 23:37:35 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
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dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright) wrote:
>
> Too bad Quantrix is not available on Windows hunh? Excel still
sucks bad.
There is Improv for Windows. Improv on NeXT was always better than
Quantrix for what I needed to do. Improv for Windows is very similar
with a few important weaknesses; eg, you can't do semi-log charts in
less than multiples of full cycles. On the other hand, you have a
lot more flexibiltiy for marking dates on charts of time series.
-----
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me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
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please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quantrix/Excel/Improv
Date: 29 Apr 1998 13:18:27 GMT
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In <6i5p7v$d3f$1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote:
> dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright) wrote:
> >
> > Too bad Quantrix is not available on Windows hunh? Excel still
> sucks bad.
>
> There is Improv for Windows. Improv on NeXT was always better than
> Quantrix for what I needed to do.
I find Improv and Quantrix to have pretty similar capabilities and interface.
What are the advantages of Improv that you find? Just curious.
Tim vz.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: for sale: complete NextStep for Intel v3.0, opened, unused
Message-ID: <1998042913424700.JAA05787@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 29 Apr 1998 13:42:47 GMT
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Actually, NeXTWorld magazines noted that 2.2 was available for Intel on a
pre-release basis to some of NeXT's more important customers.
3.1 was the first publicly available Intel release though. Hard to install
though--anyone have a list of which SCSI cards it supports?
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SuperDraw (and PasteUp) capabilities
Message-ID: <1998042913470800.JAA06100@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 29 Apr 1998 13:47:08 GMT
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I'm awfully tempted by the recent offer on this (see comp.sys.next.announce for
details)
but
Have heard SuperDraw described as not good for free-form drawing things from
scratch. Comments? FWIW, I have Virtuoso and am very comfortable with it.
Secondly, how're SD's text-handling capabilities? Virtuoso does hanging
punctuation which I find indispensable, and I've been working on learning TeX
for longer documents.
What about PasteUp? I've read the reviews, but they don't mention the matter of
hanging punctuation which I believe is essential.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quantrix/Excel/Improv
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 29 Apr 1998 14:34:04 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
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me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote:
: There is Improv for Windows. Improv on NeXT was always better than
: Quantrix for what I needed to do. Improv for Windows is very similar
: with a few important weaknesses; eg, you can't do semi-log charts in
: less than multiples of full cycles. On the other hand, you have a
: lot more flexibiltiy for marking dates on charts of time series.
Some people I know who do complex modelling in Improv found the Windows
version to be deficient in several ways, but still quite good. It did
still follow the Improv data model, it just lacked functions and such.
Unfortunately, Lotus will not sell Improv anymore. The version 2.0 they
released is not in stock anymore, and they won't talk to you about it. You
may have some luck finding old stock in PC stores, but they're running
out, since it gets chucked into 'bargain bins' now.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | Computers are useless.
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | They can only give you answers.
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | -Pablo Picasso
From: giammarc@cs.unibo.it
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Database+eofadapter needed
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:25:00 -0700
Organization: Centro Servizi Interbusiness
Message-ID: <sb98i6.87.ln@localhost>
Hello to everyone,
I have to learn to use relational databases and I would like to learn
Enterprise Object Framework 2.0.
I have searched something on the net and I have found the following names
more interesting than others: postgresSQL, mySQL, mSQL.
Anyway there is a small and free database with an EOF adaptor so I can
experiment using OpenStep 4.2+EOF+WebObjects?
(i.e.: with WebObjects came an Apache web server to let the user test the
software)
Thank You in advance for your replies.
--
Mario Giammarco
giammarc@cs.unibo.it
mgiammarco@racine.ra.it
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From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew)
Subject: Re: Quantrix/Excel/Improv
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In article <6i79b3$864$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) writes:
>In <6i5p7v$d3f$1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote:
>> dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright) wrote:
>> >
>> > Too bad Quantrix is not available on Windows hunh? Excel still
>> sucks bad.
>>
>> There is Improv for Windows. Improv on NeXT was always better than
>> Quantrix for what I needed to do.
>
>I find Improv and Quantrix to have pretty similar capabilities and interface.
>What are the advantages of Improv that you find? Just curious.
>
>Tim vz.
>
Quantrix is the Lighthouse version of Improv. I believe you can even
import/export from one to the other. Parasheet from Lighthouse is more like
Excel, and I believe you can import/export from one to the other, too.
EDEW
From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: for sale: complete NextStep for Intel v3.0, opened, unused
Date: 29 Apr 1998 18:23:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <6i7r75$bj5$1@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <6hlh8g$23a$1@agate.berkeley.edu> <1998042913424700.JAA05787@ladder01.news.aol.com>
willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) wrote:
>Actually, NeXTWorld magazines noted that 2.2 was available for Intel on a
>pre-release basis to some of NeXT's more important customers.
Wao, I didn't know there was such thing.
>3.1 was the first publicly available Intel release though. Hard to install
>though--anyone have a list of which SCSI cards it supports?
Adaptec 154XB (ISA) and DPT 2012 (EISA). It's easy to remember since there
were only two supported SCSI controllers. Adaptec 1540C (without F) worked,
too, I know since the Adaptec card I got was 1540C (without F) when I first
assembled my intel machine for running NeXTSTEP 3.1.
--
Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: alec@lepton.phys.oxy.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: parasheet & histograms
Date: 29 Apr 1998 21:57:13 GMT
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA
Message-ID: <6i87np$icg@sophri.cc.oxy.edu>
I haven't been able to figure out how to get parasheet to give me a
histogram of data. I've had no luck with the manual. Can anybody help?
Sorry for what's probably a dumb question.
Thanks!
Alec
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mesa 3b2a + demo behaviour
Date: 29 Apr 1998 22:02:17 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
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Following the release of Mesa3b2 we found an unfortunate side-effect of the
way we'd implemented the "huge sheets" capability -- whilst a worksheet could
theoretically be up to 1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 cells, in practice
(apart from h/w and OS limitations :-) if you got much above 500x500 the app
slowed to a crawl and became unusable. We've put a lot of effort into
remedying that, and made a number of other small enhancements (including a
limited feature Easter egg for anyone who cares to look). There's an interim
beta release, 3b2a, on our WWW/FTP site which people are encouraged to use in
place of 3b2. cf http://www.plsys.co.uk/plsys/ for download information.
Many thanks to those of you who have sent in suggestions for how you would
like demos to be provided -- the overwhelming majority has asked for a
time-bombed demo in place of the limited-size worksheet we had originally
planned. I'll see what we can do to provide this when CR1 ships.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
P & L Systems -- developers of Mesa
http://www.plsys.co.uk/plsys/
Tel: +44 1494 432422
Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: ejw@uclink.berkeley.ude (Earl Wagner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!!
Date: 30 Apr 1998 01:46:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <6i8l56$235$2@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <6i1njh$451$3@news.idiom.com>
jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote:
>I've had OpenWrite sitting around in my /LocalApps ever since a client sent
>me a bunch of OW docs to fill me in on a project they were doing. I just
got
>around to looking through their demo docs, and I have got to say, I am
>impressed. Being able to embed user-generated postscript code is
incredible.
>
Yeah, but wouldn't you assume any decent NS wordprocessor to allow that?
I have used the feature to embed graphics in documents, but I wasn't
surprised. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the Workspace and other apps for Next.
>If there's any justice in the world, this app has got to come back from the
>black hole of JavaSoft. If sun used this as the jumping-off point for an
app
>to replace FrameMaker, PageMaker, and MicroSquish Word, they could have the
>best product in this field.
>
>AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!
>
>(Oh, well: At least Rhapsody's coming, and another crew like Xanthus might
>give us an even better app.)
>
>-jcr
>
I have just used it a few times and although I can't argue with the price, I
had a lot of problems doing some simple things. It wasn't obvious how to
automatically add page numbers. I figured that out, but I still can't get
them to print. The help documentation says that double clicking on variables
should give results different from what actually happens. I guess these are
just superficial problems but, for instance, I don't think there's any way to
defend how the inspectors are implemented. (it looks like the speedbar is the
only consistent way of bringing some of them up)
I'm sorry to be complaining but I just lent my old Next to a friend because
his Windows computer was down. All he needed to do was type a paper, but he
ran into problems with the features I described. I scoffed at him but when I
tried to sit down and use OW, I was shocked at how unintuitively it was set
up and how difficult it was to do these few things (admittedly it was easy to
insert graphics).
Maybe it's just an extremely powerful application, better suited for more
demanding uses, but overall, I'm not impressed.
-Earl Wagner
change ude to edu in address
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quantrix/Excel/Improv
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 30 Apr 1998 01:30:49 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <6i8k89$4jv$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
References: <35455378.0@news.dca.net> <6i5p7v$d3f$1@dropit.pgh.net> <6i79b3$864$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <edewEs6sL9.DF4@netcom.com>
Eric Dew (edew@netcom.com) wrote:
: Quantrix is the Lighthouse version of Improv. I believe you can even
: import/export from one to the other.
You can go from Improv to Quantrix, but you must use the Improv
interchange format (.imx) to do it. Quantrix won't read normal .imp files.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | Computers are useless.
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | They can only give you answers.
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | -Pablo Picasso
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite Broken Under OpenStep 4.2 (->fix)
Message-ID: <1998043002301800.WAA22547@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 30 Apr 1998 02:30:18 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.980428161512.23550B-100000@luomat>
Here're some old instructions on how to fix this be renaming files.
Tim, could we get these added to the OpenWrite directory on Peak?
William
From a message by Felipe A. Rodriguez:
I had not even realized this was broken until Randy Jackson
mentioned it below. But then backward compatability was not one
of NeXT's strong points :-(
Anyhow... A workaround solution is as follows:
Get the 3.3 User CD and copy
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
to
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
(note the capitalization) then copy
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/nextspell
to
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/NeXTspell
finally, link
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/Resources/bindict
to
/usr/lib/NextStep/Resources/bindict
At which point you should have a working OW spellchecker.
Miraculously, spell checking in 4.2 apps like Mail and Edit still
seems to work.
>ubject: Re: Equation Builder, and more on OS Word processing
>rom: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randall W. Jackson)
>ate: 1997/12/17
>essage-ID: <678t2p$bh5$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
ewsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
>
>I echo the views on EqBuilder. EqB is the best equation editor I have
>ever used. Secondly, OpenWrite integrated EqB beautifully. Although
>I have purchased OS4.2 for Mach, I am have yet to install it, because
>the OW spellchecker is broken under OS, and no other word processor
>can handle equations (and EqB) the way OW can.
>
>So, I am stuck with a dated OS (NSFIP 3.3), along with an unsupported
>word processor (with no upgrade path since no other word processors
>import OW files). This is really upsetting. Can't SOMEONE come up
>with a fully capable word processor for OpenStep? How can this
>operating system survive without a real word processor?
>
>Am I a lone voice crying in the wilderness on this? Does anyone else
>feel the same frustration? I already have to use Windows for part of
>my job, am I going to have to go back to working primarily in Windows
>for want of a good OS word processor?
>
> Randy Jackson, Associate Professor
> Geography, The Ohio State University
--
Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from
Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was
# armed; his successors, since they avoided
far@ix@netcom@com # the inconveniences of arms, became private
(NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes.
(MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
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Subject: EZ EZ MONEY, WHILE YOU WAIT...
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:35:09 -0400
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.........For Your Ship To Come In!!!!
This is simple, safe, and it really works! For $6 (US), 6 stamps, and
about an hour of your time, you could earn a year's salary in a month.
Sounds to good to be true, but just imagine. WHAT IF?
A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like
you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you
could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial
investment of $6.00!
So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam!" but like most of us, I
was curious. Like most of us, I kept reading. Anyway, it said that if
you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and addresses stated in the
article, you could make thousands in a very short period of time. You
then place
your own name and address at the bottom of the list at #6, and post the
article to at least 200 newsgroups. (There are about 22,000.) or e-mail
them to friends, or e-mailing lists...
No catch, that was it.
Even though the investment was a measly $6, I had three questions that
needed to be answered before I could get involved in this sort of thing.
1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL?
I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I would
actually make any money but he said it WAS LEGAL if I wanted to try it.
I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter but the details of the
system (SEE BELOW) actually made it a legitimate legal business.
2. Would the Post Office be OK with this...?
I called them: 1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS ABSOLUTELY
LEGAL!
(See Title 18,h sections 1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws). This
clarifies the program of collecting names and addresses for a mailing
list.
3. Is this moral?
Well, everyone who sends me a buck has a good chance of getting A LOT
of money ... a much better chance than buying a lottery ticket!
So, having these questions answered, I invested EXACTLY $7.92 ... six
$1.00 bills and six 32 cent postage stamps ... and boy am I glad I did!
Within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I
still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it another thought. But
the
money just continued coming in. In my first week, I made about $20.00 to
$30.00 dollars. By the end of the second week I had a made total of
$1,000.00!
In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it was still growing. This
is
now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and
it's still coming in.....
It's certainly worth $6.00 and 6 stamps!
So now I'm reposting this so I can make even more money! The *ONLY*
thing stopping *ANYONE* from enriching their own bank account is pure
laziness!
It took me all of 5 MINUTES to print this out, follow the directions,
and begin posting to newsgroups. It took me a mere 45 minutes to post
to over 200 newsgroups. And for this GRAND TOTAL investment of $ 7.92
(US)
and under ONE HOUR of my time, I have reaped an incredible amount of
money
--
like nothing I've ever even heard of anywhere before!
'Nuff said!
Let me tell you how this works, and most importantly, why it works.
Also, make sure you print a copy of this article now, so you can get the
information off of it when you need it. The process is very simple and
consists of THREE easy steps.
============
HOW IT WORKS
============
STEP 1:
------
Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of
paper:
PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST.
$1 US DOLLAR PROCESSING FEE IS ENCLOSED.
(THIS IS KEY AS THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT LEGAL SINCE YOU ARE
PAYING FOR AND
LATER OFFERING A SERVICE).
Now get 6 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper
so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent
theft/robbery.
Then, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You
should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating
the above phrase and an U.S. $1.00 bill.
Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:
#1- Coveleski
P.O. Box 803
Goshen, NY 10924
USA
#2- Dixon G.
17811 S.W. 137th Court
Miami, FL 33177
USA
#3- Anders Roth
Kuuvuorenkatu 1C 59
FIN-20540 TURKU
FINLAND
#4- Ron Cooper
177 Cochrane Cres.
Ft. McMurray, Alta
T9K 1H1
Canada
#5- Bruce Pelletier
P.O. Box 359
Gray, ME 04039
USA
#6- D. Wells
18114 SE CR 234
Micanopy, FL. 32667
USA
STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc.) and add YOUR Name as
number 6 on the list. (If you want to remain anonymous put a nickname,
but the address MUST be correct. It, of course, MUST contain your
country, state/district/area, zip code, etc! You wouldn't want your
money to fly
away, would you?).
STEP 3: Now post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups.
Remember that 200 postings are just a guideline. The more you post, the
more money you make!
Don't know HOW to post in the news groups? Well do exactly the
following:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS FAST WITH YOUR WEB
BROWSER:
The fastest way to post a newsletter: Highlight and COPY
(Ctrl-C) the text of this posted message and PASTE (Ctrl-V) it into a
plain text editor (as Wordpad) and save it. After you have made the
necessary changes that are stated above, simply COPY (Ctrl-C) and PASTE
(Ctrl-V)
the text into the message composition window, after selecting a
newsgroup, and post it! (Or you can attach the file, without writing
anything to
the message window.)
------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you have Netscape Navigator 3.0 do the following:
1. Click on any newsgroup like normal, then click on 'TO NEWS'. This
will bring up a box to type a message in.
2. Leave the newsgroup box like it is, change the subject box to
something flashy, something to catch the eye, as "$$$ NEED CASH $$$?
READ HERE! $! $! $" Or "$$$! MAKE FAST CASH, YOU CAN'T LOSE! $$$". Or
you can
use my subject title.
3. Now click on 'ATTACHMENTS'. Then click on 'ATTACH FILE'. Find your
file on your Hard Disk (the one you saved from the text editor). Once
you find it, click on it and then click 'OPEN' and 'OK'. You should now
see
your file name in the attachments box.
4. Now click on 'SEND'/'POST'. You see? Now you just have 199 to go!
(Don't worry, it's easy and quick once you get used to it.) NOTE: All
the versions of Netscape Navigator's are similar to each other, so
you'll
have no problem to do this if you don't have Netscape Navigator 3.0.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
! QUICK TIP!
(For Netscape Navigator 3.x and above)
You can post this message to many newsgroups at a time, by simply
selecting a newsgroup near the top of the screen, hold
down the SHIFT, and then select a newsgroup near the bottom of the
screen. All of the newsgroups in/between will be selected. After that,
you
follow the basic steps, stated below in this letter, except step #1.
You can go to the page stated below in this letter and click on a
newsgroup to open up the newsgroups window. Once you've done this, in
the same
window go to 'OPTIONS', and then mark 'SHOW ALL NEWSGROUPS' and 'SHOW
ALL MESSAGES'.
Now you can see all the newsgroups and you can apply easier the above
tip.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you have MS Internet Explorer do the following:
1. Go to the newsgroups and press 'POST AN ARTICLE'. To the new
window type your headline in the subject area and then click in the
large window below.
There either PASTE your letter (which it's been copied from the text
editor), or attach the file which contains it.
2. Then click on 'SEND' or 'OK'. NOTE: All versions of MS Internet
Explorer are similar to each other, so you won't have any problem doing
this.
GENERAL NOTES ON POSTING: A nice page where you'll find all the
newsgroups if you want help is http://www.liszt.com/ (When you go to the
home page, click on the link 'Newsgroup Directory'). But I don't think
you'll have any problem posting because it's very easy once you've
found the newsgroups. All these web browsers are similar. It doesn't
matter which one you have. (But it makes it very easy if you have
Netscape Navigator 3.0 or later. You may download it from the Internet
if you
don't have it.) You just have to remember the basic steps, stated below.
BASIC STEPS FOR POSTING:
1. Find a newsgroup and you click on it.
2. You click on 'POST AN/NEW ARTICLE' or 'TO NEWS' or anything else
similar to these.
3. You type your flashy headline in the subject box.
4. Now, either you attach the file containing your amended letter, or
you PASTE the letter. (You have to COPY it from the text editor, of
course, from before.)
5. Finally, you click on 'SEND' or 'POST' or 'OK', whatever is there.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE
MONEY YOU WILL MAKE! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**
That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within
days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount
of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a
name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it.
**JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT. **
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
=================
Now the WHY part:
=================
Out of 200 postings; say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example).
So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the
5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each
with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of
the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make
200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will
bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and
post
the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies
each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part,
each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2
and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00! Those
3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my
name at
#1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive
$15,625,00!
With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! And as I said 5
responses is actually VERY LOW! Average are probable 20 to 30! So lets
put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is what you will
make:
at #6 $15.00
at #5 $225.00
at #4 $3,375.00
at #3 $50,625.00
at #2 $759,375.00
at #1 $11,390,625.00
When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the
list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The
thing
to remember is, do you realize that thousands of people all over the
world are
joining the internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU
are now!
So can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works? I think so... People
have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the
money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are
tons of new
honest users and new honest people who are joining the internet and
newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at
20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining
the actual Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will
work. You just have to be honest.
By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with
your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the
people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked
to knew
someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that's after
seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 6 $1.00 bills, people added him
to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest
and
most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world
without
costing anything but our time! You also may want to buy mailing and
e-mail lists for future dollars. Make sure you print this article out
RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and
always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing
fairly.
Remember that HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the
basic idea to make the money!
GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from
this, which is tons of extra CASH. Please remember to declare your extra
income. Thanks once again...
===========================================================
==========
LEGAL? ? ? (Comments from Bob Novak who started this new version.)
"People have asked me if this is really legal. Well, it is! You are
using the Internet to advertise your business. What is that business?
You are
assembling a mailing list of people who are interested in home based
computer and online business and methods of generating income at home.
Remember that people send you a small fee to be added to your mailing
list.
It is legal. What will you do with your list of thousands of names?
Compile all of them into a database and sell them as "Mailing Lists"
on the internet in a similar manner, if you wish, and make more money.
How do you think you get all the junk mail that you do? Credit card
companies, mail order, Utilities, anyone you deal with through the mail
can sell your name and address on a mailing list, unless you ask them
not to, in addition to there regular business, So, why not do the same
with the list you collect. You can find more info about "Mailing Lists"
on the internet using any search engine.
." So, build your mailing list, keep good accounts, declare the
income and pay your taxes. By doing this you prove your business
intentions. Keep an eye on the newsgroups and when the cash has stopped
coming (that means your name is no longer on the list), you just take
the latest posting at the newsgroups, send another $6.00 to the names
stated on the list, make your corrections (put your name at #6) and
start
posting again.
===========================================================
NOTES:
*1. In some countries, the export of the country's exchange is illegal.
But you can get the license to do this from the post office, explaining
the above statements (that you have an online business,
etc. You may have to pay an extra tax, but that's OK, the amount of the
incoming money is HUGE! And as I said, a few countries have that
restriction.
*2. You may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars. (Or
Database or Spreadsheet software.)
*3. If you're really not sure or still think this can't be for real,
please print a copy of this article and pass it along to someone who
really needs the money, and see what happens.
*4. You should start getting responses within 1-2 weeks.
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From: t=*ryan@tensor.com (Ryan Dingman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Database+eofadapter needed
Date: 30 Apr 1998 04:48:29 GMT
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>I have to learn to use relational databases and I would like to learn
>Enterprise Object Framework 2.0.
>I have searched something on the net and I have found the following names
>more interesting than others: postgresSQL, mySQL, mSQL.
>Anyway there is a small and free database with an EOF adaptor so I can
>experiment using OpenStep 4.2+EOF+WebObjects?
OpenBase is might be what you are looking for. It comes with an EOF adaptor
and it has a free demo, but is not completely free. I'm unaware of a
database for OpenStep that is completely free. You can find OpenBase at
http://www.openbase.com/
Hope this helps.
ryan
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite Broken Under OpenStep 4.2 (->fix)
Date: 30 Apr 1998 10:47:35 GMT
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In <1998043002301800.WAA22547@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
> Get the 3.3 User CD and copy
>
> /NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
> to
> /NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
>
>
> (note the capitalization) then copy
I'm looking at that and I swear both lines are the same..... am I wrong?
Let me know.... I'll put it up next week after finals are over.
TjL
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From: William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! (NOT!!!!!!!)
Date: 30 Apr 1998 11:43:16 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <6i9o4k$gj5$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
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ejw@uclink.berkeley.ude (Earl Wagner) wrote:
>...
> Maybe it's just an extremely powerful application, better suited for more
> demanding uses, but overall, I'm not impressed.
It is not suited for demanding users, either. I published one book with OW,
and am working on two more. It is a huge struggle to work around the bugs
and "features", and I think I know OW pretty well. It has a number of
shortcomings. For example, if you want to start page numbers over again
(say the preface is numbered from i to xix and then Chapter 1 starts at
page 1), you can't, even if you use the Book facility. You can't restart
page numbers at the beginning of a new chapter. There are numerous bugs in
formatting, particularly widow and orphan control, where the printed output
can sometimes break pages differently from that shown on the display. I am
amazed that a bug like that can occur using the NS API. Running headers and
footers are tied to the formatted page, and not to an "anchor" on the page.
Therefore, when pagination changes the section layout, you have to change
the running headers and footers. This isn't a bug, just a poor design.
Similarly, the handling of cross references is not synchronised correctly
with text updates. Most seriously, one cannot define styles for runs of
characters. There is a hack to do something like this (Alt-click style),
but these are just overrides instead of true customizable styles.
I reported these years ago and nothing happened (except for the bug where
if you rename a chapter it deletes your files. I guess this was easy for
them to fix). I would be happy to fix all these bugs myself if I was given
the source code.
I am stuck because of OW bugs, and yet am unable to change to FrameMaker
under NT because of PS handling problems (and my hundreds of diagrams are
in EPS) under NT (even using GhostScript, etc).
William Clocksin
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Many questions
Date: 30 Apr 1998 13:30:32 GMT
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In <6hrpd8$1p4s$2@news.missouri.edu> "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" wrote:
> 1) This is the popular question but I can't find it in any FAQ, though..
> I'd like to connect my PC to the NeXT. I'm using 10BaseT interface to the
> hub by RJ45 and I have BJ45 from NeXT to that hub. Well, my question is,
> how can I make my PC sees NeXT and vice versa. Also, is it possible to
> share the printers between two systems?
Yes, use 'samba' on the NeXT side and 'rumba' to mount PC exported volumes.
Both programs are free and available on the usual ftp sites.
> 2) Since NeXT already have SCSI interface, what is the interfacing? I saw
on
> the back system looks like SCSI-2 but in the manual said it's SCSI(I assume
> it's SCSI). In addition, there are some venders sell SCSI-2 to SCSI-1
> interface... If I have external SCSI-CD-ROM Drive, which is the SCSI-2..
> Can I use it with NeXT? If so, how can I do it??? I'd love to have my NeXT
> talks to CD...
SCSI-1 (async only), but every CDROM except older Sanyo (due to a bug in
their SCSI interface) should run fine.
> 3) Do you think we can use ZIP driv(SCSI) with NeXT?
AFAIK Yes. I remember a problem when formatting new media, but a disktab
entry would help... search DejaNews for zip and NeXT - I remember a
discussion a while ago.
> 4) I can't download any software and use it in NeXT. I download the
> software on PC and copy them to NeXT (my NeXT doesn't have internet
> connection and I don't want to since my PC is more
> powerful-Pentium-II-400MHz). Most of them is .tar file. After I copied to
> NeXT, it shows icon as TAR (that makes me happy for a while). But when I
> click at it, it said that, I need to "unarchieve" by using tar command????
> Can't I double click it directly????? What should I do if I want to
download
> from my PC and transfer to NeXT???(This will be better if I can LAN my PC
to
> NeXT).
Open a shell, type 'man tar', read and act accordingly. You may want to
install 'Opener.app' on the NeXT, this will do everything for you
automatically.
> 5) What is the best -in your opinion- of Integrated Development Environment
> (IDE) for NeXT? Where can I get it?
NeXTSTEP/OpenStep Developer includes the ProjectBuilder/InterfaceBuilder.
NeXTSTEP is not sold anymore but you may get a used copy in
c.s.n.marketplace. I think OpenStep is still available from Apple... BTW IDE
are for whimps... :-)
> 6) Is it possible to port my code to run on NeXT (and vice versa)?
Sure, but depending on the platform and the way you did your coding it can be
a MAJOR effort and a complete rewrite could be much easier.
--
* Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank
* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard
* "The answer is vi, what was your question...?"
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite Broken Under OpenStep 4.2 (->fix)
Date: 30 Apr 1998 15:01:14 GMT
Organization: UC Davis - Dept. Applied Science
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In <6i9ks7$jn8$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy Luoma wrote:
> In <1998043002301800.WAA22547@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
>
> > Get the 3.3 User CD and copy
> >
> > /NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
> > to
> > /NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
> >
> >
> > (note the capitalization) then copy
>
> I'm looking at that and I swear both lines are the same..... am I wrong?
>
> Let me know.... I'll put it up next week after finals are over.
>
> TjL
I think instructions should have included "from CD" on the first line, "to
Disk" on the second line.
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From: bmajik@goliath.unl.edu (Matt Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! (NOT!!!!!!!)
Date: 30 Apr 1998 16:00:05 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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In article <6i9o4k$gj5$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk writes:
> ejw@uclink.berkeley.ude (Earl Wagner) wrote:
>>...
>> Maybe it's just an extremely powerful application, better suited for more
>> demanding uses, but overall, I'm not impressed.
>
> I am stuck because of OW bugs, and yet am unable to change to FrameMaker
> under NT because of PS handling problems (and my hundreds of diagrams are
> in EPS) under NT (even using GhostScript, etc).
>
isn't using LaTeX the obvious answer ? One of it's primary advantages of
TeX is the ability to embed EPS.
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! (NOT!!!!!!!)
Date: 30 Apr 1998 17:05:00 GMT
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In <6ia765$dh7$2@unlnews.unl.edu> Matt Evans wrote:
> In article <6i9o4k$gj5$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
> William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk writes:
> > ejw@uclink.berkeley.ude (Earl Wagner) wrote:
> >>...
> >> Maybe it's just an extremely powerful application, better suited for
more
> >> demanding uses, but overall, I'm not impressed.
> >
> > I am stuck because of OW bugs, and yet am unable to change to FrameMaker
> > under NT because of PS handling problems (and my hundreds of diagrams are
> > in EPS) under NT (even using GhostScript, etc).
> >
>
> isn't using LaTeX the obvious answer ? One of it's primary advantages of
> TeX is the ability to embed EPS.
Well yeah but isn't LaTeX a little more steep on the learning curve?
TjL
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From: far_no@spam.ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite Broken Under OpenStep 4.2 (->fix)
Date: 30 Apr 1998 18:10:59 GMT
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In article <6ia3nq$stv$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) writes:
>In <6i9ks7$jn8$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy Luoma wrote:
>> In <1998043002301800.WAA22547@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
>>
>> > Get the 3.3 User CD and copy
>> >
>> > /NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
>> > to
>> > /NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
>> >
>> >
>> > (note the capitalization) then copy
>>
>> I'm looking at that and I swear both lines are the same..... am I wrong?
>>
>> Let me know.... I'll put it up next week after finals are over.
>>
>> TjL
>
>I think instructions should have included "from CD" on the first line, "to
>Disk" on the second line.
>
>
It's amazing how many different ways something can be interpreted :-)
The instructions are correct as posted, though, I didn't explicitly
restate that both of the first two steps involve copying from the
3.3 CD. The capitalization is only different in the second step.
You can't really make a mistake because the lowercase item in
step two does not exist in 4.2. It may also be possible to get
spell check working without the 3.3 CD but I didn't waste much
time looking into that.
From a message by Felipe A. Rodriguez:
I had not even realized this was broken until Randy Jackson
mentioned it below. But then backward compatability was not one
of NeXT's strong points :-(
Anyhow... A workaround solution is as follows:
Get the 3.3 User CD and copy
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
to
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
(note the capitalization) then copy
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/nextspell
to
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/NeXTspell
finally, link
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/Resources/bindict
to
/usr/lib/NextStep/Resources/bindict
At which point you should have a working OW spellchecker.
Miraculously, spell checking in 4.2 apps like Mail and Edit still
seems to work.
--
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From: "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Multi-Boots with OPENSTEP
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:30:17 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6iafrt$1hp8$1@news.missouri.edu>
Hi there,
Is it possible to use OPENSTEP and other OS in the same machine by using
multi-boots? I have never heard anyone talk about that (I could be wrong if
I missed some topic)....
Can you please share your experience in Multi-OS with OPENSTEP on PC,
please? Thanks.
Sarawoot
From: bmeadows@nosc.mil (Brian K. Meadows)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! (NOT!!!!!!!)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:51:04 GMT
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA 92147
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On 30 Apr 1998 16:00:05 GMT, bmajik@goliath.unl.edu (Matt Evans)
wrote:
>isn't using LaTeX the obvious answer ? One of it's primary advantages of
>TeX is the ability to embed EPS.
Yea, I just love compiling my word processor.
Brian
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite Broken Under OpenStep 4.2 (->fix)
Message-ID: <1998043022533900.SAA18449@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 30 Apr 1998 22:53:39 GMT
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Just wanted to offer one additional datapoint.
In the fix, copying spelling services from an old NS 3.1 CD-ROM works as well
as 3.3 does (insofar as I can tell). Presumably 3.2 would work as well.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite Broken Under OpenStep 4.2 (->fix)
Date: 1 May 1998 00:47:46 GMT
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In <1998043022533900.SAA18449@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
> Just wanted to offer one additional datapoint.
>
> In the fix, copying spelling services from an old NS 3.1 CD-ROM works as
well
> as 3.3 does (insofar as I can tell). Presumably 3.2 would work as well.
>
> William
>
>
> William Adams
> http://members.aol.com/willadams
> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
>
>
Any suggestions for some of us, who only has a copy of OS4.2?
:)
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From: root@toneloc.ix.netcom.com (Operator)
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Subject: PPP Monitor "detach" flag
Date: 1 May 1998 04:02:18 GMT
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I've been using PPP Monitor to control my connections to a dialup ppp
account.
However, I get the message "detatch apparently not specified"; nor does
the "connect" button change to "disconnect" after a connection has been made.
Can anyone offer any solutions?
Thanks.
--
From: eyoo@eudoramail.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MIDI notation/controller SW (or sound in general)
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 01:49:05 -0600
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Checking with any musicians as to availability/kind of SW or utilities for
MIDI controlling w/ the NeXT. I have access to an older Mac, would things
just be simpler for me to use that as a MIDI controller?
Very curious as to the depth of developed resources for sound manipulation in
general w/ the Next. Has anyone used the CDat DSP interface for bringing in
digital audio?
Thanks...
Eugene
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From: haller@nowhere.romulus.uwaterloo.ca (Kirk Haller)
Subject: EPS in TeX (was: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! )
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In <6ia765$dh7$2@unlnews.unl.edu> Matt Evans wrote:
> In article <6i9o4k$gj5$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
> William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk writes:
> >
> > I am stuck because of OW bugs, and yet am unable to change to FrameMaker
> > under NT because of PS handling problems (and my hundreds of diagrams are
> > in EPS) under NT (even using GhostScript, etc).
> >
>
> isn't using LaTeX the obvious answer ? One of it's primary advantages of
> TeX is the ability to embed EPS.
>
eps files embed wonderfully in plain TeX. I do it all the time. Just put the
following before your first eps file.
\input epsf
To input the eps file:
\epsfxsize=3.5truein
\epsffile{myGraph.eps}
You can also set the ysize. Look at the TeX manual that comes with TeXview .
And, yes, TeX does have a fairly steep learning curve. However, if you want
to typeset mathematics, there is nothing better.
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Canada N2L 3G1
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From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS in TeX (was: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! )
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 07:46:47 -0400
Organization: Michigan State University
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On Fri, 1 May 1998, Kirk Haller wrote:
> eps files embed wonderfully in plain TeX. I do it all the time. Just put the
> following before your first eps file.
>
> \input epsf
>
> To input the eps file:
>
> \epsfxsize=3.5truein
> \epsffile{myGraph.eps}
>
> You can also set the ysize. Look at the TeX manual that comes with TeXview .
>
> And, yes, TeX does have a fairly steep learning curve. However, if you want
> to typeset mathematics, there is nothing better.
>
On the other hand, if you don't want to typeset math, the learning curve
doesn't seem to be that steep. Not at all, actually.
Even if typesetting a 'plain text book' you will get results better than
any other wordprocessing solution I know about.
It will do
- hyphenation (in any language, given you have the proper definition file)
- compute the best formatting of each paragraph so that the spaces
between words are visually correct - using the standards of
professional typesetters, not of generally used wordprocessors
- compute the best formatting for each page, similar as for the
paragraphs
- keep track of all references and bibliography, even using a database
of books (in a text file) - there is a NeXT app to edit the database
file easily - Bibliography.app
- allow you to load various style format files for easy format changes of
the whole document.
etc ...
You can also look at InstantTeX.app to get a really nice automatic viewer.
You don't have to use LaTeX, you can use the new -2e version, which can
be setup to use LaTeX2e
The only problem is that only a few font styles are available from the
box, but new ones can be installed. You can even typeset music with TeX
...
I think that LaTeX is at least worth trying out, given that it ships
with NeXTstep (even though the old version)
Good luck.
Rudy
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Michigan State University (NeXTmail, Sun, MIME compatible)
Statistics and Probability http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS in TeX (was: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! )
Date: 1 May 1998 07:02:44 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6ickm4$ld7@slip.net>
References: <6i1njh$451$3@news.idiom.com> <6ia765$dh7$2@unlnews.unl.edu> <Es94q5.C35@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> <Pine.NXT.3.96.980501073301.13550A-100000@entropy6>
>On the other hand, if you don't want to typeset math, the learning curve
>doesn't seem to be that steep. Not at all, actually.
I agree.
>
>Even if typesetting a 'plain text book' you will get results better than
>any other wordprocessing solution I know about.
>
It is also platform independent. LaTeX packages are available
for all variants of UNIX, Windows and (I think) MAC.
...
The resulting postscript also distills to pdf format which
looks great. "pdf" readers are certainly available on all
platforms.
Emmett
From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS in TeX (was: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! )
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:30:14 -0400
Organization: Michigan State University
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On 1 May 1998, Emmett McLean wrote:
>
> >Even if typesetting a 'plain text book' you will get results better than
> >any other wordprocessing solution I know about.
>
> It is also platform independent. LaTeX packages are available
> for all variants of UNIX, Windows and (I think) MAC.
>
> ...
>
> The resulting postscript also distills to pdf format which
> looks great. "pdf" readers are certainly available on all
> platforms.
>
Let me add that for PDF one would prefer to use TeX (dvips) with PS fonts
rather than the default bitmapped fonts. PS and PDF files with the PS
fonts are a LOT smaller.
The good thing is that the PS fonts are available for free, e.g. on
Peak.org or (I think) evolution.com (peanuts.leo.org's US mirror)
Rudy
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Rudolf Blazek blazek@stt.msu.edu
Michigan State University (NeXTmail, Sun, MIME compatible)
Statistics and Probability http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek
From: "R.R. Hornback" <rjhorn@databeam.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WTB: Virtuoso 2.0, AvantVector
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 11:16:58 -0400
Organization: Databeam Corporation
Message-ID: <6icp7r$5fu$1@gw.databeam.com>
Hello,
I am looking for a copy of either Virtuoso 2.0
or AvantVector. Anyone have a licensed copy they
want to sell?
R.R. Hornback
From: geordie@chapman.com (Geordie Korper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!!
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 12:07:04 -0500
Organization: Chapman and Cutler
Message-ID: <geordie-0105981207050001@130.130.117.53>
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In article <6i8l56$235$2@agate.berkeley.edu>, ejw@uclink.berkeley.ude
(Earl Wagner) wrote:
:jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote:
:>I've had OpenWrite sitting around in my /LocalApps ever since a client sent
:>me a bunch of OW docs to fill me in on a project they were doing. I just
:got
:>around to looking through their demo docs, and I have got to say, I am
:>impressed. Being able to embed user-generated postscript code is
:>incredible.
:
:Yeah, but wouldn't you assume any decent NS word processor to allow that?
:
:I have used the feature to embed graphics in documents, but I wasn't
:surprised. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the Workspace and other apps for Next.
Even indecent non NeXT word processors like MS Word 5 on the Mac allow
insertion of user generated postscript. We use the following PS to print
the document number (which is the document name) in the footer for
revision control in all our word docs. The .pic tells word to use the next
picture box as the area to draw the PS in.
.pic
/Helvetica findfont 9 scalefont setfont 0 4 moveto
statusdict /jobname get (document: ) search {pop pop show} {pop} ifelse
Unfortuantely there is no escaping of characters the ps interpreter is
looking for. If a document has an unmatched parens in the name the printer
will silently flush the job. It took awhile to debug that one. Sorry it
this was a bit off topic but I did use YAP on my slab to do some of the
debugging so it has a little NeXT software relevance.
--
Geordie Korper geordie@chapman.com
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From: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Multi-Boots with OPENSTEP
Date: 1 May 1998 17:50:01 GMT
Organization: IDT
Message-ID: <6id209$6v@nnrp2.farm.idt.net>
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In <6iafrt$1hp8$1@news.missouri.edu> "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" wrote:
> Hi there,
> Is it possible to use OPENSTEP and other OS in the same machine by
using
> multi-boots? I have never heard anyone talk about that (I could be wrong
if
> I missed some topic)....
> Can you please share your experience in Multi-OS with OPENSTEP on PC,
> please? Thanks.
> Sarawoot
>
>
>
This topic has been covered for a long time in the NeXT new groups. To give
you a simple answer, yes. Currently, I am using the WINNT booter to boot
OS4.2 along with NT server, WIn95, NT workstation as some of the options. It
is possible to make (NeXT/OpenStep) just another option on NT boot manager
by copying NeXT's boot sector into C:\ and having NT boot manager point to
it. You would have to add this in, in the Boot.ini file.
I heard there is also a why to make Linux a option on NT boot manager, but I
don't care for it. I am not sure which operating system or systems you want
to run, but check out some of the older news in the NeXT new groups using
Deju and I am sure you will find a worth of information to help you set up
the system for your personal liking. By the way, you can always use NeXT's
boot manager. If you have an interest in using NT boot manager to boot
Openstep, let me know. Good luck
Jay Lee
echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
NeXTMail & MIME OK!
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: App to tail several files in one window?
Date: 1 May 1998 21:10:17 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <6iddnp$81a$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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I remember an app not too long ago which could track (ie tail -1f ) several
different files into one window and would preface each entry by telling you
what log it came from.
Anyone remember that app? What was it called?
TjL, losing what's left of the grey matter....
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From: gq@typhus.earthlink.net (Gerardo Quinonez, M.D.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: nextstep
Date: 1 May 1998 23:49:19 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
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Thanks to all who responded to my question
--
_____________________________________________
G. Quinonez, MD <quinonez@earthlink.net>
NeXTStep 3.3/Windoze NT 4.0
NeXTMail/SunMail Welcome
http://emf.net/~ihouse/Alumni-pages/quinonez/
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Next Newbie Question : NDs are great
Date: 1 May 1998 23:54:02 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6iefua$p70@slip.net>
References: <6ho2o9$s0$1@news.itis.com>
In article <6ho2o9$s0$1@news.itis.com>,
Matt Ungaro <mungaro@nospam.viewnetinc.com> wrote:
>OK, I am looking into investing in a Cube. Now my question is, what exactly
>is a dimension cube?
Yes, it is a cube with video card that allows you to view things
with a color monitor.
Actually, in a cube, you can run up to 3 color monitors
and one black and white monitor simulaneously. Each color
monitor requires one of those video cards which, nowdays,
goes for about 450$ with a cable.
I run my cube with 2 ND boards and 2 21" monitors.
You can see it at www.slip.net/~emclean/computer/nd.html.
Blame the fuzzy image on my camcorder. Not the ND.
BTW, the 21" Hitachi monitors you see there have 16bit-16million
color high qualify video. So the quality of the video you get when
watching TV is better than the silver screen and better
than most 17" PC monitors. Hell of a deal that you can pick
them up for 100$-250$ +shipping nowadays. Unfortunately it
is not possible to fill the entire screen with the output
of NeXTtv - your limited by a TV screen size of about 6 by
8 inches.
Looking at different descriptions, it sounds like the
>same thing as a Next cube, but with a hefty video card. Are these machines
>designed specifically for graphics applications? Thanks for any help.
On my box, with a 5400 RPM Seagate, I can capture 5 by 7 inch
video images at about 1.2 seconds per image. If you're looking
to create images from a good time you had with your VCD it
is *the* fun app to have.
If you really get into it you can purchase VDOConverter which
will allow you to create quicktime movies. Around 100$. I haven't
got around to purchasing this. (My next purchase will be
for a license for TopDesk.)
Capturing, watching and creating anim movies and making
quick time movies are about the only ND specific apps
I can think of. Nearly all other graphics apps run on other
non-ND machines.
....
BTW,
In 1992 loaded ND turbo cubes, with two 1.2 Gig hard drives,
64/32/32 Megs of Ram sold for $27,000.
Run of the mill 25Mhz cubes with 600MB hard drives went for
about $15000.
I was in college in 1992. It is nice to think back to
that time when most of my instructors would have sacrificed
their left eye to have a machine like this one!
Considering that WinTel promoted $4000 486 25Mhz machines
I figure that my box, with the lazer printer, two monitors,
NeXT external CDROM Drive, Abaton black and white scanner,
and NS 3.3 User/Dev would have sold for over $30000. Considering
that I also have a Daydream (a DSP package which lets me boot
the machine as a Mac) I figure I could ask $2100 for my system
today. Not that I'm thinking of selling the machine. Just
the opposite. I expect to hold on to the box for another
two years and adding adding a 2 or 4 gig drive next month.
(With the Daydream I can run Netscape when I really need
Java and JavaScript.)
Considering that WinTel promoted $4000 486 25Mhz machines
and $1900 386 25Mhz machines at the time, spending the big
bucks would have been a good investment considering that you
can't give away a 386, and a 486/25 box is worth only 200$.
At SF State for example, they still have 4 or 5 machines
in the computer lab. The machines are great for students
learning UNIX, even by today's standards. And still
respectfully regarded by college instructors.
....
Because of the TV I find that I have my machine on *all* the time.
Now babysitting fun where as before it was a drag. Just put
the TV on one monitor, have the kid watch it, and surf the web
on the other monitor. Just don't spill any of that soda on
the keyboard :-)
Apologies for all the enthusiasm.
See www.slip.net/~emclean/next/article.html for some 1992 details
and interesting reading.
Emmett
>
>Matt Ungaro ( mungaro@viewnetinc.com )
>
>
>
>
From: Paul Buckley <pb141@columbia.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenWrite carriage returns
Date: 2 May 1998 19:37:38 GMT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Message-ID: <6ifsm2$cnr$1@news6.ispnews.com>
Speaking of the "brillant" app, I'm trying to use it to create a file with
HTML and Merge codes which will incorporate data from Dataphile and generate
HTML pages.
Can someone explain the types of carriage returns and their rules of use in
OpenWrite? "hard returns" in the primary document affect the formatting of
the HTML coded text (in ways that are not always satisfying) but add <p>
tags to the HTML. "soft returns (enter key or alt-return) seem to register
as <br> tags but "hard returns" merged from text files appear as a third
kind of return character that is ignored in the generation of the HTML.
Ideally, I'd like the "hard returns" in the text files to ultimately appear
as <br> codes in the HTML. Although the primary document looks funny without
carriage returns, I can live with that since it's a fixed entity.
<pb141@columbia.edu>
From: Laurent Curnier <Laurent.Curnier@loria.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Quantrix and NS3.0
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 13:09:26 +0200
Organization: INRIA
Message-ID: <354AFEE5.E2F034A5@loria.fr>
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Hello NexStep community
I tried to install Quantrix (2.3 and 2.4) on my NeXT cube, but I can't
execute it. I've got the error message :
can't exec quantrix. bad shared library
Does someone succeed to install it on NS 3.0 ?
thanks
Laurent
--
From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quantrix/Excel/Improv
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 07:27:47 -0400
Organization: Michigan State University
Sender: blazek@entropy6
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To: Timothy Van Zandt <tvz@Princeton.EDU>
cc: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
In-Reply-To: <6i79b3$864$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
On 29 Apr 1998, Timothy Van Zandt wrote:
> In <6i5p7v$d3f$1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote:
> > dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright) wrote:
> > >
> > > Too bad Quantrix is not available on Windows hunh? Excel still
> > sucks bad.
> >
> > There is Improv for Windows. Improv on NeXT was always better than
> > Quantrix for what I needed to do.
>
> I find Improv and Quantrix to have pretty similar capabilities and interface.
> What are the advantages of Improv that you find? Just curious.
>
Here is my experience from using both, Improv and Quantrix:
- Improv is older, you cannot do graphics within Improv. You have
to start the presentation manager that comes with Improv.
The graphics can be B&W only, AFAIK. I remember having problems
trying to use colors.
- On the other hand, Improv used to have better help. The similarities
between Q and I are such that one can use I help to program in Q.
- I think that that help in the last version of Q is adequate now.
Most importantly, the functions seem to be documented now.
- I am not sure about the API, but Q can load bundles and comes with
QAPI. Hence there are a few bundles available for Quantrix (e.g. I
wrote a little utility for exporting simple tables to the web, and
liked the API, except that there is AFAIK no way to access the header/
footers of the various tables).
- Quantrix introduced some new bugs, of course :-)))
But overall, the fact that I can write bundles and use color
graphics within Quantrix, and also the price, are the reason
why I prefer Quantrix.
Good luck.
Rudy
---
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Michigan State University (NeXTmail, Sun, MIME compatible)
Statistics and Probability http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek
From: Jasper Wong <jasperw@iona.com.hk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PCMCIA modem in NS3.3?
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 00:29:59 +0800
Organization: Hong Kong Supernet
Message-ID: <354B4A07.172591F9@iona.com.hk>
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Title says it all. Does anyone know how can I use a PCMCIA modem in
(Intel) NS3.3?
I have experience in setting up PPP with an external modem since the
serial port devices are
quite well known. But what about PCMCIA modem? How can I setup PPP to
use with a
PCMCIA modem? Any comment is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Jasper
From: barry@gslink.com (Barry J. Bocaner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: solaris openstep screenshot
Date: 3 May 1998 05:27:04 GMT
Organization: Cows Unlimited!
Message-ID: <6igv78$cp0$1@clarknet.clark.net>
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Hi. I can't find the post right now but someone recently was asking about
solaris openstep screenshots. I installed it on my personal machine at
home here and made a basic basic screenshot so you could tell what it
looks like at least...
osf1.gmu.edu/~bbocaner/snapshot.jpg
--
--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Barry J. Bocaner
<barry@gslink.com>
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <13743893563222@digifix.com>
Date: 3 May 1998 03:50:06 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <14190894168021@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
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From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quantrix/Excel/Improv
Date: 3 May 1998 05:21:04 GMT
Organization: MiscKit Development
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References: <01HW.B167D79D0001F08506719BD0@news.tiac.net> <35455378.0@news.dca.net> <6i5p7v$d3f$1@dropit.pgh.net> <6i79b3$864$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <Pine.NXT.3.96.980502071749.21696A-100000@entropy6>
"Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu> wrote:
> - Improv [...].
> The graphics can be B&W only, AFAIK. I remember having problems
> trying to use colors.
I think that this will fix it for you:
dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes
There _is_ a dwrite to turn colors on for charting. You still can't use them
in the sheets, though, and that's IMHO annoying.
> - I am not sure about the API, but Q can load bundles and comes with
> QAPI.
Improv has an API, too. I never got it to work very well for me, and
Quantrix is better documented. But there is an API for Improv.
> But overall, the fact that I can write bundles and use color
> graphics within Quantrix, and also the price, are the reason
> why I prefer Quantrix.
I've got both and think I prefer Quantrix, too. But the point is moot since
both products are dead. So who's going to start a new spreadsheet? One
thing I always liked about the Quantrix/Improv style spreadsheet apps is that
they are basically "linear algebra for dummies". :-)
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com
<a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quantrix/Excel/Improv
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 09:36:42 -0400
Organization: Michigan State University
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On 3 May 1998, Don Yacktman wrote:
> "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu> wrote:
> > - Improv [...].
> > The graphics can be B&W only, AFAIK. I remember having problems
> > trying to use colors.
>
> I think that this will fix it for you:
>
> dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes
>
> There _is_ a dwrite to turn colors on for charting. You still can't use them
> in the sheets, though, and that's IMHO annoying.
Thanks for the hint.
> [snip]
>
> I've got both and think I prefer Quantrix, too. But the point is moot since
> both products are dead. So who's going to start a new spreadsheet? One
> thing I always liked about the Quantrix/Improv style spreadsheet apps is that
> they are basically "linear algebra for dummies". :-)
I really would love to see some spreadsheet with these incredible
capabilities running under Rhapsody.
I consider Quantrix/Improv a hybrid of Spreadsheet and Database
application with _very_ nice user interface. Sure there are bugs
in the apps, but that no the point.
The point is the different approach to a spreadsheet. It is hard to
discuss the advantages of NS/OS/Rhap with Wintel users when they cannot
even imagine what such apps could look like and be capable of doing :-(((
Rudy
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From: Paul Buckley <pb141@columbia.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC for motorola
Date: 3 May 1998 22:24:40 GMT
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Is there an old demo version of SoftPC for NeXTStep on moto around
somewhere?
From: Guido.Beneke@desy.de (Guido Beneke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS in TeX (was: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! )
Date: 3 May 1998 22:18:09 GMT
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron (DESY)
Message-ID: <6iiqf1$cv1$1@claire.desy.de>
References: <6i1njh$451$3@news.idiom.com> <6i8l56$235$2@agate.berkeley.edu> <6i9o4k$gj5$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <6ia765$dh7$2@unlnews.unl.edu> <Es94q5.C35@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
But TeXview doesn' digest all eps file. As far as I can tell it uses some
outdated dvips code which makes it dumping its core on some files which the
latest dvips handles correctly. Using Preview for dvips generated TeX output
is acceptable only when using the PS versions of the CM fonts.
Regards, G. Beneke
haller@nowhere.romulus.uwaterloo.ca (Kirk Haller) wrote:
>eps files embed wonderfully in plain TeX. I do it all the time. Just put the
>following before your first eps file.
>
>\input epsf
>
>To input the eps file:
>
>\epsfxsize=3.5truein
>\epsffile{myGraph.eps}
>
>You can also set the ysize. Look at the TeX manual that comes with TeXview .
>
>And, yes, TeX does have a fairly steep learning curve. However, if you want
>to typeset mathematics, there is nothing better.
From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS in TeX (was: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! )
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 21:13:09 -0400
Organization: Michigan State University
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To: Guido Beneke <Guido.Beneke@desy.de>
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On 3 May 1998, Guido Beneke wrote:
> But TeXview doesn' digest all eps file. As far as I can tell it uses some
> outdated dvips code which makes it dumping its core on some files which the
> latest dvips handles correctly. Using Preview for dvips generated TeX output
> is acceptable only when using the PS versions of the CM fonts.
>
> Regards, G. Beneke
>
I might be wrong, but ...
TeXview sits on top of (almost?) standard TeX on unix installation. It
uses bitmapped fonts to display the text/symbols and NeXT display
postscript to preview the embedded EPS files.
Hence should the EPS file view correctly in Preview.app, TeXview won't
most likely choke on it.
If you decide to generate the PS file using Print/Save in TeXview,
standard dvips is called, as if started from the command line.
Upgrade dvips and TeX away.
I think it should work.
Good luck.
Rudy
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Statistics and Probability http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek
From: Ryan Woodsmall <c716128@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help with OS and configuring
Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 06:28:35 +0000
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <354D6013.B8930A71@showme.missouri.edu>
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Hey, where can I get the SVGA driver? Is it only included in
Openstep? I'm running NeXTstep 3.3, and it doesn't include an SVGA
driver. I think I have a bum S3 card, and the S3 Generic drivers don't
seem to work. I would like to run NS in ANYTHING higher than 640x800x2,
for a while, at least until I can get a new video card. I did a
search on NeXTAnswers, and I couldn't find anything about a generic
SVGA driver.
--
Ryan Woodsmall [woody@cdsinet.net] or [c716128@showme.missouri.edu]
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: solaris openstep screenshot
Date: 4 May 1998 07:00:15 GMT
Organization: IDT
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In <354D59D6.809C2EC@showme.missouri.edu> Ryan Woodsmall wrote:
> Hey, speaking of Solaris Openstep, now that it is a dead project, do
> you think any amount of convincing them to contribute some of the
> source to the GNUStep project or just straight out free it up for
> users? I personally would like to run two of my favorite operating
> systems together - OS and Linux. I very seriously doubt that this
> would *ever* happen, but hey, everyone can dream, right?
>
>
Hey Ryan,
Most likely that is a "NO CAN DO!" Since, Apple/NeXT has rights to
Openstep, I think, Sun would need permission from Apple. Anyhow, I wonder
how much of it was engineered by the Sun camp, I would think that most of it
was done by NeXT anyway. I could be wrong, I don't know the full story.
That's what I think anyway. Interesting Note: did you heard the rumor that
an engineer working on Apple's Mach kernel project has a hybrid mach running
both RhapsodyDR2 and Mklinux DR2 on the same box at the same time.
Interesting don't you think. I don't see any reason why this wouldn't be
feasible, maybe Apple has a treat for the Linux camps up their sleeve.
Hmm...maybe a Linux Yellowbox in the works or maybe Apple will merge the
Mklinux project with Rhapsody in the future (This is old news?). I doubt
that one. :) Would someone like to comment on if it would be possible to
merge the OpenBSD/BSD4.4 code base with the Linux code base giving the user
the best of both worlds.
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From: Kristofer Jon Magnusson <kris@xmission.xmission.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Solaris OPENSTEP dev tools?
Date: 3 May 1998 11:09:24 -0600
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0852)
Message-ID: <6ii8c4$rss$1@xmission.xmission.com>
References: <6igv78$cp0$1@clarknet.clark.net>
Did anyone ever archive the OPENSTEP for Solaris development packages? I
have a perfectly good SPARCstation running OPENSTEP/Solaris that needs
some OPENSTEP development tools.
.............kris
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From: Ryan Woodsmall <c716128@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: solaris openstep screenshot
Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 15:12:30 +0000
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <354DDADE.667A74CD@showme.missouri.edu>
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Hey,
I figured that since the OPENSTEP spec was written by both NeXT and
Sun... I don't know though. I know that even if they COULD release the
source (which they they probably cannot), they wouldn't, simply because
it's a competitor's product. I think that's why they pulled it in the
first place. I still think it would be AWESOME if they did it. Did
anyone sign up for the Solaris/Intel OpenStep beta test? If anyone did
and wants to comment, please tell me what you thought about the whole
environment compared to Openstep/Mach. I signed up, but they dropped
the whole project about a week later. Then I didn't buy Solaris =)
As to the Rhapsody/Linux thing - there was a rumor a couple of months
ago about this, and Apple totally denied it. I think the original
rumor was that Linux would replace the BSD "underneath" the GUI. This
time, the rumor is that MkLinux and Rhapsody are running at the same
time, under the same mach microkernel. This time, however, Apple
developers will neither confirm nor deny the rumor. I think it would
be quite feasible to merge the Linux/BSD source, but this would be
VERY time consuming. The Linux kernel alone is about 24 Meg (that's
with all the supported platforms, tho), and most BSD's OS source code is
between 44 and 100 Meg, and I don't think this includes X. I just
wonder if it's true how they will do X - DPS on X or X on DPS? They
might not plan to do X though, if this rumor is true. It really makes
me wonder. I hope Rhapsody is a big hit for Apple - I plan on buying it
when it's available, no matter what they decide to do.
--
Ryan Woodsmall [woody@cdsinet.net] or [c716128@showme.missouri.edu]
And she spits and swears, until she can't swear anymore.
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From: no.spam@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede)
Subject: Re: App to tail several files in one window?
Message-ID: <no.spam-0505980129550001@topera.camelot.de>
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 23:29:53 GMT
Mail-Copies-To: always
In article <6iddnp$81a$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>,
nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma) wrote:
> Anyone remember that app? What was it called?
Try FileSpy.
Markus Gloede
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quantrix/Excel/Improv
Date: 5 May 1998 02:48:36 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <6ilum4$eoc$1@dropit.pgh.net>
References: <01HW.B167D79D0001F08506719BD0@news.tiac.net> <35455378.0@news.dca.net> <6i5p7v$d3f$1@dropit.pgh.net> <6i79b3$864$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) wrote:
> In <6i5p7v$d3f$1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote:
> > dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright) wrote:
> > >
> > > Too bad Quantrix is not available on Windows hunh? Excel still
> > sucks bad.
> >
> > There is Improv for Windows. Improv on NeXT was always better
than
> > Quantrix for what I needed to do.
>
> I find Improv and Quantrix to have pretty similar capabilities and
interface.
> What are the advantages of Improv that you find? Just curious.
>
> Tim vz.
>
Quantrix had one big weakness for me. I plot discontinuous data and
Improv will merely break and continue. Quantrix drops to zero and
plots a continuous curve.
Improv for windows has a big weakness. Semi-log plots can only be
multiples of full cycles while Improv for NeXT allows partial cycles.
On the other hand, it handles dates on charts much better.
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please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: jklein@ivy.hampshire.edu (jonathan klein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need 'nextspell' from 3.3/sparc CD (OpenWrite spellchecking)
Date: 5 May 98 08:31:52 GMT
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jonathan klein (jklein@ivy.hampshire.edu) wrote:
: Regarding the previous thread on OpenWrite spellchecking not working under
: openstep, I need a copy of the 'nextspell' program for NS 3.3/sparc.
Sorry to follow-up to my own post, but I should have specified before;
the file I'm looking for is
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/nextspell for sparc from the NS 3.3
CD.
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-jon klein,
jklein@ivy.hampshire.edu
NeXTmail welcome
From: Jasper Wong <jasperw@iona.com.hk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PCMCIA support?
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:35:23 +0800
Organization: IONA Technologies China Ltd.
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Does anyone know if there are ways to use PCMCIA modem and PCMCIA
TypeIII
hard drive with NeXTStep 3.3 (Intel)? Any comment would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Jasper
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quantrix/Excel/Improv
Date: 5 May 1998 06:43:33 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6imcel$82k$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <01HW.B167D79D0001F08506719BD0@news.tiac.net> <35455378.0@news.dca.net> <6i5p7v$d3f$1@dropit.pgh.net> <6i79b3$864$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <6ilum4$eoc$1@dropit.pgh.net>
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote:
>Quantrix had one big weakness for me. I plot discontinuous data and
>Improv will merely break and continue. Quantrix drops to zero and
>plots a continuous curve.
workaround: copy the last valid x-y-pair into the (selected) gaps. only one
copy- paste operation needed per arbitrary large gap.
From: jklein@ivy.hampshire.edu (jonathan klein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need 'nextspell' from 3.3/sparc CD (OpenWrite spellchecking)
Date: 5 May 98 07:07:30 GMT
Message-ID: <354ebab2.0@192.33.12.30>
Regarding the previous thread on OpenWrite spellchecking not working under
openstep, I need a copy of the 'nextspell' program for NS 3.3/sparc.
Right now, I've only got a copy for 68k. If somebody could NeXTmail this
file to me, or point me to a location that I could grab it, I would be
forever indebted. Thanks in advance.
--
-jon klein,
jklein@ivy.hampshire.edu
NeXTmail welcome
From: William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS in TeX (was: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! )
Date: 5 May 1998 09:40:01 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <6immph$cbm$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
References: <6i1njh$451$3@news.idiom.com> <6i8l56$235$2@agate.berkeley.edu> <6i9o4k$gj5$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <6ia765$dh7$2@unlnews.unl.edu> <Es94q5.C35@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
haller@nowhere.romulus.uwaterloo.ca (Kirk Haller) wrote:
> In <6ia765$dh7$2@unlnews.unl.edu> Matt Evans wrote:
> > In article <6i9o4k$gj5$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
> > William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk writes:
> > >
> > > I am stuck because of OW bugs, and yet am unable to change to
FrameMaker
> > > under NT because of PS handling problems (and my hundreds of diagrams
are
> > > in EPS) under NT (even using GhostScript, etc).
> > >
> >
> > isn't using LaTeX the obvious answer ? One of it's primary advantages
of
> > TeX is the ability to embed EPS.
> >
> eps files embed wonderfully in plain TeX. I do it all the time. Just put
the
> following before your first eps file.
> \input epsf
> To input the eps file:
> \epsfxsize=3.5truein
> \epsffile{myGraph.eps}
> You can also set the ysize. Look at the TeX manual that comes with
TeXview .
> And, yes, TeX does have a fairly steep learning curve. However, if you
want
> to typeset mathematics, there is nothing better.
I was an early user of TeX, but stopped using it in 1985. After one has
used a nice WYSIWYG interface with drag&drop, going back to "programming in
TeX" is a bit like turning the clock back.
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCMCIA support?
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 11:38:09 +0200
Organization: IBM HD MicroCode
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Jasper Wong wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if there are ways to use PCMCIA modem and PCMCIA
> TypeIII
> hard drive with NeXTStep 3.3 (Intel)? Any comment would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jasper
A modem is no problem. But what I found out is a very slow data rate to
work reliable with the modem (2400 Baud). But I may need some more
time to fight with the beast... and the beast can do 33600 Baud.
Henry
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From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Subject: Re: suck-3.x.0 for OS4.x ???
Message-ID: <EsHCpy.4Gv@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Organization: Private
References: <35084230.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 10:49:09 GMT
In article <35084230.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
(Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
> has anyone succeeded in compiling suck-3.x.0 on NS or OS?
If you do not have older version, try
http://www.tg.rim.or.jp/~hrst/NEXTSTEP/suck-2.2-next-i386.tar.gz
It is compiled for NS3.2(Japanese).
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCMCIA support?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 5 May 1998 11:33:56 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6imtf4$hie18@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <354ECF47.F2EB555E@iona.com.hk> <354EDE01.41C6@de.ibm.com>
Henry Koplien (koplien@de.ibm.com) wrote:
: Jasper Wong wrote:
: >
: > Does anyone know if there are ways to use PCMCIA modem and PCMCIA
: > TypeIII
: > hard drive with NeXTStep 3.3 (Intel)? Any comment would be greatly
: > appreciated.
: >
: > Thanks in advance,
: > Jasper
:
: A modem is no problem. But what I found out is a very slow data rate to
: work reliable with the modem (2400 Baud). But I may need some more
: time to fight with the beast... and the beast can do 33600 Baud.
If you're really using NS 3.3 and not OS (4.2), then install the 'new'
serial device drivers. They have a way to say, that a 'serial connection'
is PCMCIA and not COMx.
But you must have the Intel(-compatible) PCMCIA hostbridge (for the
driver PCIC) within your system. All other hardware is not supported
with either NS or OS, so you'll have no socket services without a PCIC
compatible hardware!
Can't say anything about drives in PCMCIA slots, apart from devices
driven by PCMCIA SCSI card (Adaptec), which is probably another way of
using it, than you want to have.
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS in TeX (was: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! )
Message-ID: <1998050513395600.JAA04506@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 05 May 1998 13:39:56 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6immph$cbm$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
re: going back to TeX is like turning back the clock...
But what other page layout environment allows contextual ligatures, hanging
punctuation, automatic indexing and table of content generation? To say nothing
of a paragraph-based hyphenation-justification algorithm.
The only hope that I see for such capabilities is Adobe's K2 program with URW's
HZ algorithm built into it.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: raketenschelm@hotmail.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: solaris openstep screenshot
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:57:48 -0600
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References: <6igv78$cp0$1@clarknet.clark.net> <354D59D6.809C2EC@showme.missouri.edu> <6ijp1v$p11@nnrp1.farm.idt.net> <354DDADE.667A74CD@showme.missouri.edu>#1/1
Hi Ryan,> I figured that since the OPENSTEP spec was written by both NeXT
and> Sun... I don't know though. I know that even if they COULD release the>
source (which they they probably cannot), they wouldn't, simply because> it's
a competitor's product. >I agree I would be really nice to have the source
code, but I doubt that Sun can (or wants to) do this. Suns code that I've
seen was very similar to NeXT's, no complete rewrite. In fact, there were
even a few old NEXTSTEP API's implemented, most of the headers contained
NeXT's copyright statement.> I think that's why they pulled it in the> first
place. I still think it would be AWESOME if they did it. Did > anyone sign
up for the Solaris/Intel OpenStep beta test? If anyone did> and wants to
comment, please tell me what you thought about the whole> environment
compared to Openstep/Mach. I signed up, but they dropped> the whole project
about a week later. Then I didn't buy Solaris =)>I was one of the lucky (and
now very disappointed) guys. The look and feel of OpenStep for Solaris was
more or less 100% NEXTSTEP, Sun didn't change much. Since Sun's XDPS was
used, a few details were different. Most fonts looked ugly, since they had to
be rendered, only a few fonts (like Lucida fonts, but not Helvetica or
Courier) also came with bitmaps. The speed of the GUI was significantly
slower than NEXTSTEP. Especially open menus reduced the interactive speed,
since Sun had a strange menu refreshing algorithm. Opening (pin up) all menus
in Edit made the program barely usable on a SS5-110 (96MB RAM). All windows
were managed by a patched OLWM X11-window manager (virtual mode did work, but
wasn't bug free). In contrast to NEXTSTEP, Sun allowed to resize windows,
witout waiting for their content to be redrawn (like opaque resize, but
windows got refreshed AFTER releasing the mouse button) which looked kinda
strange.Most of the very standard programs (Edit, Preview, Preferences...)
were part of the package, but some of them were more buggy (i.e. Preview)
than any (released) NEXTSTEP version I've seen.From a programmers
perspective, Sun's OpenStep was a good example of what the OpenStep standard
means and what we might get with GNUstep. Only the API documented in the 1994
document were implemented. Sun used a non NeXT compatible NIB format (most of
the sun programs even had more NS3.3 style NIBs and could not be opened with
Suns Interface builder (looked 100% like NS3.3's IB). The Project builder was
the same as NS3.3's, only the debugger was a true OpenWindows style X11
program, that is normally part of workshop C++.Compiling most of the examples
of OPENSTEP 4.x was NOT possible on Solaris OpenStep, since (almost) all the
new objects that NeXT added (i.e. the new text system) were not available.
Porting software between Sun's implementation and NeXT's was not easy, if
you wanted to use NeXT's new goodies (Andrew Stone's Create 4.0 was the only
third party program, he might give us more details about this).If Sun had
synchronized it's development efforts with NeXT, Solaris OpenStep could have
been the coolest interface for Sun workstations. With more 3rd party products
(Lighthouse ?) Sun would have had the chance to make workstations look and
feel like PC's and ban the Windows machines from the desks (were they're now
sitting next to the workstations). Unfortunately somebody thought, that
waiting 5-? more years and using yet another similar, but proprietary system
is better for Sun. We'll see...> As to the Rhapsody/Linux thing - there was a
rumor a couple of months> ago about this, and Apple totally denied it. I
think the original> rumor was that Linux would replace the BSD "underneath"
the GUI. This> time, the rumor is that MkLinux and Rhapsody are running at
the same> time, under the same mach microkernel. This time, however, Apple >
developers will neither confirm nor deny the rumor. I think it would> be
quite feasible to merge the Linux/BSD source, but this would be> VERY time
consuming. The Linux kernel alone is about 24 Meg (that's> with all the
supported platforms, tho), and most BSD's OS source code is> between 44 and
100 Meg, and I don't think this includes X. I just > wonder if it's true how
they will do X - DPS on X or X on DPS? They> might not plan to do X though,
if this rumor is true. It really makes> me wonder. I hope Rhapsody is a big
hit for Apple - I plan on buying it> when it's available, no matter what they
decide to do.>Regarding these rumors I'm not sure how to make sense of it.
What makes Linux Linux? IMHO only the kernel. Rhapsody's kernel will be
different than the Linux kernel. The other benefits of Linux are the huge
pool of free software. But most of this software is not Linux software, it's
GNU style software, running on almost every system that has a GNU style
environment. It doesn't matter if it's BSD or Sys-V, most interfaces are
becoming more similar (thanks to POSIX), autoconf does the rest. Even binary
emulations are possible across platforms. Sorry, but I don't see a need for a
linux personality on top of Mach besides the 4.4BSD Rhapsody "personality".
If Apple makes Rhapsody (truly) compliant with POSIX, porting GNU style
software shouldn't be a problem at all.I could imagine that since Linux
already runs on top of Mach3, Apple might think about replacing the 4.4BSD
personality (which runs on Mach2 so far) with the Linux personality, if it
saves efforts.Regarding the window system, I'd rather see X on DPS that XDPS,
I only wished that Apple would improve security for NSHost (something like
magic cookies for X11). The performance of DPS is great, X11 on DPS also
works fine if you use interceptor technology. If I remember right, Next's DPS
is also faster than the X11 DPS extensions from Sun or SGI (according to
PPST).Speaking of wishes for the future, I'd like to see a new OpenStep
standard, something that enables companies or groups like the GNUstep people
to keep up with Apples development, while being independent. Porting problems
will be the biggest show stopper for OpenStep. Having that problem solved,
new ports (imagine OpenStep running on the new Alpha 21264) should be doable
even if Apple focuses on the Mac.So long,Patrick.---Patrick Schulz; 1704
Nelms Dr. #2025; Austin, TX 78744email: patrick.schulz@amd.com (MIME
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From: jklein@ivy.hampshire.edu (jonathan klein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: henry@yusei.boeblingen.de.ibm.com (Henry Koplien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCMCIA support?
Date: 5 May 1998 17:27:11 GMT
Organization: IBM Zurich Research Laboratory
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In article <6imtf4$hie18@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> phy070@spo109 (H.-R.
Oberhage) writes:
> If you're really using NS 3.3 and not OS (4.2), then install the 'new'
> serial device drivers. They have a way to say, that a 'serial
connection'
> is PCMCIA and not COMx.
> But you must have the Intel(-compatible) PCMCIA hostbridge (for the
> driver PCIC) within your system. All other hardware is not supported
> with either NS or OS, so you'll have no socket services without a PCIC
> compatible hardware!
Well, all those things are in place. The problem is not the driver, I
believe. I get an hardware overrun if I want a significant amount
of data. This discards any reasonable ppp connection. I have the
chance to switch to another better Laptop. This may solve a lot
of things.
Henry
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Using a vector based draw app, how do you create a spiral?
Date: 5 May 1998 18:08:17 GMT
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I am using Virtuoso, though I doubt that matters with this problem.
How do I create a spiral?
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From: jmeacham@qis.net (James D. Meacham)
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Subject: Re: EPS in TeX (was: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! )
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In <6immph$cbm$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote:
>
>
> I was an early user of TeX, but stopped using it in 1985. After one has
> used a nice WYSIWYG interface with drag&drop, going back to "programming in
> TeX" is a bit like turning the clock back.
I don't know about that. While WYSIWYG is great for some things (writing
letters, short reports, newsletters), for structured documents I find LaTeX
exponentially easier to use after the original rather steep learning curve.
I actually went in the other direction. I learned how to do computer-aided
writing with MS Word and WriteNow for the Macintosh, and now use LaTeX for
any of my more serious documents. I mean, you can do a lot of the same
things in WYSIWYG word processors that you can in LaTeX (though there are
scads of thing you can't) but just try to generate a table of contents,
index, list of figures, and bibliography in one of those WYSIWYG word
processors, and you'll come to appreciate LaTeX. Plus, I do some work
involving logical notatation (e.g. (a v b) -> ( c & d)...) and the control
TeX gives you over that sort of thing is just amazing. So, while I don't
really see the point in using TeX for writing a two-page business letter, for
academic papers and reports, I've found it to be much more effeicient and
useful than WYSIWYG programs.
James
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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: solaris openstep screenshot
Date: 4 May 98 23:21:19
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In-reply-to: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net's message of 4 May 1998 07:00:15 GMT
In article <6ijp1v$p11@nnrp1.farm.idt.net>,
echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net (JWL) --delete NOSPAM writes:
In <354D59D6.809C2EC@showme.missouri.edu> Ryan Woodsmall wrote:
> Hey, speaking of Solaris Openstep, now that it is a dead project,
> do you think any amount of convincing them to contribute some of
> the source to the GNUStep project or just straight out free it up
> for users? I personally would like to run two of my favorite
> operating systems together - OS and Linux. I very seriously
> doubt that this would *ever* happen, but hey, everyone can dream,
> right?
Most likely that is a "NO CAN DO!" Since, Apple/NeXT has rights to
Openstep, I think, Sun would need permission from Apple. Anyhow, I
wonder how much of it was engineered by the Sun camp, I would think
that most of it was done by NeXT anyway. I could be wrong, I don't
know the full story. That's what I think anyway.
As I understood the project, it wasn't a new implementation of
OpenStep so much as a port of the AppKit onto Solaris. So there's
about as much likelihood of OpenStep/Solaris becoming Open Source as
their is of OpenStep/Mach or Rhapsody doing so.
Interesting Note: did you heard the rumor that an engineer working
on Apple's Mach kernel project has a hybrid mach running both
RhapsodyDR2 and Mklinux DR2 on the same box at the same time.
Interesting don't you think. I don't see any reason why this
wouldn't be feasible, maybe Apple has a treat for the Linux camps
up their sleeve.
Why would this be so great? The bare running of both operating
systems at the same time is _interesting_, but not worth much. For
instance, it's unlikely they could share filesystems, except perhaps
via NFS (sure, Linux can read BSD filesystems - but at the literal
same time as BSD is? No way). They probably couldn't share the
screen except perhaps via console flipping. They probably couldn't
share pasteboards or anything of the sort.
In other words, I'm suggesting that this is about as useful as the old
trick of putting multiple motherboards in a NeXT cube. You could do
it. It was neat. But what you had in the end was _not_ a two-CPU
computer, it was two seperate computers in a single enclosure. From
all I've heard, what this mythical engineer has is logically the same
as having two seperate computers running two seperate operating
systems, except that they just happen to share hardware.
Personally, I expect that the core of the rumor, the kernel, if you
will, is that some engineer has gotten MkLinux running on the same
version of Mach that is being used for Rhapsody. That fits all the
"facts" I've heard pretty closely, but isn't nearly as unlikely.
Hmm...maybe a Linux Yellowbox in the works or maybe Apple will
merge the Mklinux project with Rhapsody in the future (This is old
news?). I doubt that one. :)
That would be an entirely different project from running MkLinux and
Rhapsody at the same time.
Would someone like to comment on if it would be possible to merge
the OpenBSD/BSD4.4 code base with the Linux code base giving the
user the best of both worlds.
No way, no how. Pick one or the other. I don't want to be sent back
to the purgatory of systems with multiple modes for emulating
different variants of Unix (then it was BSD and SysV universes). They
spent so much effort on "unifying" these different interfaces that
they generally didn't please _either_ camp.
I'd rather have a whole loaf of rye than a moldy loaf of sourdough...
--
scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/
<Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots
Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Using a vector based draw app, how do you create a spiral?
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 19:22:53 -0400
Organization: Michigan State University
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On 5 May 1998 AntiSpamming.mreichman@earthlink.net.nada wrote:
> I am using Virtuoso, though I doubt that matters with this problem.
>
> How do I create a spiral?
I sometimes use Mathematica to produce EPS images with complicated shapes
which are not easy to draw is a drawing program. Then I drag it to
whatever I originally wanted to use it in.
I think that Feynman.app which is a part of the InstantTeX distribution
is able to do spirals. It's free, I think.
Rudy
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Michigan State University (NeXTmail, Sun, MIME compatible)
Statistics and Probability http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Using a vector based draw app, how do you create a spiral?
Date: 6 May 1998 00:02:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <6inkih$8v7@ecuador.earthlink.net> AntiSpamming.mreichman@earthlink.net.nada writes:
>I am using Virtuoso, though I doubt that matters with this problem.
>
>How do I create a spiral?
Hand code in PostScript and import as EPS?
Aren't DPS-based systems wonderful?
--- spiral.eps ---
%!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 300 300
% ---- User Parameters ----
/Ncycles 5 def % # of turns of a spiral
/NptsPerCycle 50 def % # of points per turn (cycle)
/RadiusBumpPerCycle 2 def % Radius mulipler per turn
/InitialRadius 5 def % in points
/LineWidth 3 def
0 0 0 setrgbcolor
% -- code --
/RbumpPerStep RadiusBumpPerCycle 1 NptsPerCycle div exp def
/Nsteps NptsPerCycle Ncycles mul def
/AngleStep 360 NptsPerCycle div def
/Radius InitialRadius def
/Angle 0 def
150 150 translate
InitialRadius 0 moveto
1 1 Nsteps {
Angle AngleStep add /Angle exch def
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From: Recollection Books <recall@eskimo.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing 3.2 Intel from IDE CD
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 20:51:33 -0700
Organization: Recollection Used Books
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I just picked up NextStep 3.2 Intel cheap. The
only problem is that I only have an IDE cd-rom. Is
there any hope of getting it installed?
TIA!
Mike
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phone: (206) 548-1346 email: recall@eskimo.com
web site: http://www.eskimo.com/~recall [13
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Book searches:
http://www.eskimo.com/~recall/search.html
From: Jasper Wong <jasperw@iona.com.hk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCMCIA support?
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 12:08:49 +0800
Organization: IONA Technologies China Ltd.
Message-ID: <354FE24E.C0DBF32A@iona.com.hk>
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To: "H.-R. Oberhage" <phy070@spo109>
Thanks!!! I'll go and download the latest serial driver then.
Jasper
H.-R. Oberhage wrote:
> If you're really using NS 3.3 and not OS (4.2), then install the 'new'
> serial device drivers. They have a way to say, that a 'serial connection'
> is PCMCIA and not COMx.
> But you must have the Intel(-compatible) PCMCIA hostbridge (for the
> driver PCIC) within your system. All other hardware is not supported
> with either NS or OS, so you'll have no socket services without a PCIC
> compatible hardware!
>
> Can't say anything about drives in PCMCIA slots, apart from devices
> driven by PCMCIA SCSI card (Adaptec), which is probably another way of
> using it, than you want to have.
>
> Ruediger Oberhage
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing 3.2 Intel from IDE CD
Date: 6 May 1998 09:04:29 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6ip92t$9c01@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <354FDE44.CF5679B@eskimo.com>
Recollection Books (recall@eskimo.com) wrote:
: I just picked up NextStep 3.2 Intel cheap. The
: only problem is that I only have an IDE cd-rom. Is
: there any hope of getting it installed?
Most probably not. You'll need ATAPI support (for an
ATAPI(/IDE)-compatible CD-drive, that it hopefully is),
and if I remember it correctly this came with NS 3.3.
There might be a chance by looking into NeXTanswers
very closely. There are some 'disk-images' of boot
and driver floppies with the latter for 'beta' drivers.
Within there, there could be ATAPI support for NS 3.2, but
I'm not all too confident in this.
Greetings,
Ruediger Oberhage
--
H.-R. Oberhage
Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: ahoesch@smartsoft.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SmartBase 1.3 for OPENSTEP Mach
Date: 6 May 1998 15:37:37 GMT
Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V.
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SUBMISSION
SmartBase 1.3 for OPENSTEP
ftp.smartsoft.de/SmartBase/SmartBase.1.3.I.b.tar.gz
SmartBase has been developed to simplify the development and maintenance of
database dependent software systems based on OPENSTEP, Apples new next
generation operating system. This goal is achieved by centralizing the
business logic for more flexibility, by providing support for remote object
instanciation in order to support the design of client/server architectures
and by introducing an advanced object paradigm allowing to create data models
at a very high abstraction level.
Š Centralized business logic
Š Remote object support
Š Advanced object paradigm
SmartBase does not provide data storage mechanisms on its own but makes use
of an ordinary relational database management system for this purpose. You
can think of SmartBase as an objective extension for your database. Because
SmartBase is based on Apples Enterprise Objects Framework it principly can be
used with any RDBMS, that's supported by EOF or comes with an EOF-Adapter.
SmartBase is built for Intel. You need to have OPENSTEP Mach and EOF
installed to use this product. Moreover you need a RDBMS. The current release
only supports OpenBase (Version 5.1.8 or higher). See http://www.openbase.com
to get a demo version of OpenBase for Mach.
RELEASE NOTES
Changes for version 1.3 Release
----------------------------------------------
- OBModeler has been redesigned to support cut & paste, modification of
classes and attributes after their creation and comments for classes and
attributes. Note that the obmodel file format has been changed. You can read
old models with the new OBModeler but not vice versa.
- Many minor bugs have been fixed.
Changes for version 1.2 Release
----------------------------------------------
- Access Privileges can now correctly be set also for complex attributes
(including attributes of type DATA). The responsible bug has been fixed.
- Some more minor bugs have been fixed.
Changes for version 1.1 Release
----------------------------------------------
- Only classbundles that have been changed since the last time the
application has run are downloaded from the server again. This reduces
network traffic and allows SmartBase to be used with very slow connections
too.
- Objects cannot only be instanciated on client computers but also on the
server now
- Some minor bugs have been fixed
- Changes have been made to the framework libraries in order to realize the
remote object mechanism.
- The SmartBase demos have been updated to reflect the framework changes.
INSTALLATION
Simply untar SmartBase.1.3.I.tar.gz and install all five packages on your
workstation. Read the documentation in /LocalLibrary/Documentation/SmartBase
for further details. If you encounter any problems or have suggestions
regarding the further development of SmartBase, do not hesitate to contact
us. We look forward to hear from you.
For further information, contact:
Smartsoft Development
Email: info@smartsoft.de
Special thanks to Scott Keith from OpenBase Inc. for his kind support!!!
Message-ID: <355050F6.46CCAEBA@gnorf.gk-biochem.uni-konstanz.de>
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 14:00:54 +0200
From: Support <support@gnorf.gk-biochem.uni-konstanz.de>
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Subject: Re: Licensing Old Apps (Was Re: WriteUp/PasteUp good?)
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There is a page on how to patch certain demo software which doesn´t seem
to be supported anymore...including framemaker:
http://www.magnnet.com/Homes/enabling.html
This is especially useful when the software is licensed to one host
only - a real bummer when your NeXT or ethernet card breaks.
Greetings,
Bernhard
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: statd buffer overflow bug
Date: 6 May 1998 20:10:37 GMT
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis
Message-ID: <6iqg3t$inn$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>
I posted the following on comp.sys.next.sysadmin, but got no answers. Maybe
one of you knows.....
I got a message from our sysadmin that my next machine is potentially
vulnerable to the statd buffer overflow bug (CERT advisory CA-97.26). Can
someone verify this, and point me to the fix if it is true? I was under the
impression that BSD is not vulnerable to the bug, and since Nextstep is so
BSDish, I would expect statd/lockd to be of BSD origin. On the other hand, I
can't find anything (NeXTAswers or CERT) saying anything explicit one way or
the other about NeXTStep/OPENSTEP so I thought I'd better see if anyone here
knows for sure. Thanks.
Cheers,
Don Petcher
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Subject: Direct download/ shareware, midis!
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 22:56:08 +0200
Organization: Unlimited Surprise Systems, Berlin
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From: raketenschelm@hotmail.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: solaris openstep screenshot [repost]
Date: 6 May 1998 23:02:45 GMT
Organization: AMD
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[Sorry guys, but Dejanews with Omniweb3.0b6 produced junk last time]
Hi Ryan,
> I figured that since the OPENSTEP spec was written by both NeXT and
> Sun... I don't know though. I know that even if they COULD release the
> source (which they they probably cannot), they wouldn't, simply
> because it's a competitor's product.
> I agree I would be really nice to have the source code, but I doubt
> that Sun can (or wants to) do this. Suns code that I've seen was very
> similar to NeXT's, no complete rewrite. In fact, there were even a few
> old NEXTSTEP API's implemented, most of the headers contained NeXT's
> copyright statement. I think that's why they pulled it in the first
> place. I still think it would be AWESOME if they did it. Did
> anyone sign up for the Solaris/Intel OpenStep beta test? If anyone
> did and wants to comment, please tell me what you thought about the
> whole environment compared to Openstep/Mach. I signed up, but they
> dropped the whole project about a week later. Then I didn't buy
> Solaris =)
I was one of the lucky (and now very disappointed) guys. The look and feel
of OpenStep for Solaris was more or less 100% NEXTSTEP, Sun didn't
change much. Since Sun's XDPS was used, a few details were different.
Most fonts looked ugly, since they had to be rendered, only a few fonts
(like Lucida fonts, but not Helvetica or Courier) also came with bitmaps.
The speed of the GUI was significantly slower than NEXTSTEP.
Especially open menus reduced the interactive speed, since Sun had
a strange menu refreshing algorithm. Opening (pin up) all menus in Edit
made the program barely usable on a SS5-110 (96MB RAM). All windows
were managed by a patched OLWM X11-window manager (virtual mode
did work, but wasn't bug free). In contrast to NEXTSTEP, Sun allowed to
resize windows, witout waiting for their content to be redrawn (like opaque
resize, but windows got refreshed AFTER releasing the mouse button)
which looked kinda strange. Most of the very standard programs (Edit,
Preview, Preferences...) were part of the package, but some of them
were more buggy (i.e. Preview) than any (released) NEXTSTEP
version I've seen.
From a programmers perspective, Sun's OpenStep was a good example
of what the OpenStep standard means and what we might get with GNUstep.
Only the API documented in the 1994 document were implemented.
Sun used a non NeXT compatible NIB format (most of the sun programs
even had more NS3.3 style NIBs and could not be opened with Suns
Interface builder (looked 100% like NS3.3's IB). The Project builder
was the same as NS3.3's, only the debugger was a true OpenWindows
style X11 program, that is normally part of workshop C++.Compiling
most of the examples of OPENSTEP 4.x was NOT possible on Solaris
OpenStep, since (almost) all the new objects that NeXT added (i.e. the
new text system) were not available.
Porting software between Sun's implementation and NeXT's was not
easy, if you wanted to use NeXT's new goodies (Andrew Stone's
Create 4.0 was the only third party program, he might give us more
details about this).If Sun had synchronized it's development efforts
with NeXT, Solaris OpenStep could have been the coolest interface
for Sun workstations. With more 3rd party products (Lighthouse ?) Sun
would have had the chance to make workstations look and feel like
PC's and ban the Windows machines from the desks (were they're now
sitting next to the workstations). Unfortunately somebody thought, that
waiting 5-? more years and using yet another similar, but proprietary
system is better for Sun. We'll see...
> As to the Rhapsody/Linux thing - there was a rumor a couple of months
> ago about this, and Apple totally denied it. I think the original
> rumor was that Linux would replace the BSD "underneath" the GUI. This
> time, the rumor is that MkLinux and Rhapsody are running at the same
> time, under the same mach microkernel. This time, however, Apple
> developers will neither confirm nor deny the rumor. I think it would
> be quite feasible to merge the Linux/BSD source, but this would be
> VERY time consuming. The Linux kernel alone is about 24 Meg (that's
> with all the supported platforms, tho), and most BSD's OS source code
> is between 44 and 100 Meg, and I don't think this includes X. I just
> wonder if it's true how they will do X - DPS on X or X on DPS?
> They might not plan to do X though, if this rumor is true. It really
> makes me wonder. I hope Rhapsody is a big hit for Apple - I plan on
> buying it when it's available, no matter what they decide to do.
>
Regarding these rumors I'm not sure how to make sense of it. What makes
Linux Linux? IMHO only the kernel. Rhapsody's kernel will be different
than the Linux kernel. The other benefits of Linux are the huge pool of free
software. But most of this software is not Linux software, it's GNU style
software, running on almost every system that has a GNU style environment.
It doesn't matter if it's BSD or Sys-V, most interfaces are becoming more
similar (thanks to POSIX), autoconf does the rest. Even binary emulations
are possible across platforms. Sorry, but I don't see a need for a linux
personality on top of Mach besides the 4.4BSD Rhapsody "personality".
If Apple makes Rhapsody (truly) compliant with POSIX, porting GNU style
software shouldn't be a problem at all.I could imagine that since Linux
already runs on top of Mach3, Apple might think about replacing the 4.4BSD
personality (which runs on Mach2 so far) with the Linux personality, if it
saves efforts.Regarding the window system, I'd rather see X on DPS that
XDPS, I only wished that Apple would improve security for NSHost
(something like magic cookies for X11). The performance of DPS is great,
X11 on DPS also works fine if you use interceptor technology. If I remember
right, Next's DPS is also faster than the X11 DPS extensions from Sun or SGI
(according to PPST).
Speaking of wishes for the future, I'd like to see a new OpenStep standard,
something that enables companies or groups like the GNUstep people to
keep up with Apples development, while being independent. Porting
problems will be the biggest show stopper for OpenStep.
Having that problem solved, new ports (imagine OpenStep running on the
new Alpha 21264) should be doable even if Apple focuses on the Mac.
So long,
Patrick.
--
Patrick Schulz; 1704 Nelms Dr. #2025; Austin, TX 78744
email: patrick.schulz@amd.com (MIME welcome)
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: suck-3.x.0 for OS4.x ???
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 20:05:59 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
Message-ID: <1998May5.200559.639@gamelan.okay.net>
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In <EsHCpy.4Gv@papageno.rim.or.jp> Hiroshi TOMARU wrote:
> In article <35084230.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
> (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
> > has anyone succeeded in compiling suck-3.x.0 on NS or OS?
If have 3.8.0 running here under NS3.2/m68k. I put it into a CVS tree, so it
is quite easy to merge new versions. If interested, I can post a patch to the
original tree.
The reason why suck didn't work out of the box is the lack of posix
conformance of NS. Worse yet, the standard C-Libs included with Nextstep are
not fully complient to ANSI-C which results in some difficult to find bugs.
[What is CVS ? The most needed tool for doing SW configuration management /
version management. Unless you don't have Clearcase, get CVS !!]
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS in TeX (was: OpenWrite is BRILLIANT!!!! )
Date: 6 May 1998 20:27:07 GMT
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis
Message-ID: <6iqh2r$ivg$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>
References: <6i1njh$451$3@news.idiom.com> <Es94q5.C35@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> <6immph$cbm$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <hDG31.372$F5.2316579@news-read1.qis.net>
In article <hDG31.372$F5.2316579@news-read1.qis.net>,
James D. Meacham <jmeacham@qis.net> wrote:
>In <6immph$cbm$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote:
>>
[snip, snip]
>TeX gives you over that sort of thing is just amazing. So, while I don't
>really see the point in using TeX for writing a two-page business letter, for
>academic papers and reports, I've found it to be much more effeicient and
>useful than WYSIWYG programs.
>
My rational for writing letters in TeX is that I never have to worry about
formatting. Once I set up a few macros to format letters, all I have to do
is enter the address, the body, etc, and the formatting takes care of
itself. Strikes me as a tad easier than what I have to do with a WYSIWYG.
But only a tad.
>James
>
>--
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>The Rev. James David Meacham--Minister, Webmaster, Philosopher
>Phone: 410-467-9620 · Fax 410-467-9630 · Pager 410-619-6760
>See Gabriel Meacham at http://www.qis.net/~jmeacham/gabriel.html
>"If people did not sometimes do silly things, nothing intelligent would ever
>get done." -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
>
Cheers,
Don Petcher
From: cdb@barracuda.precipice.com (christopher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WTB: Virtuoso 2.0, AvantVector
Date: 6 May 1998 21:52:20 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <6iqm2k$jqq@ecuador.earthlink.net>
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On 05/01/98, "R.R. Hornback" wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>I am looking for a copy of either Virtuoso 2.0
>or AvantVector. Anyone have a licensed copy they
>want to sell?
>
>R.R. Hornback
>
>
>
i've got virtuoso 2.0. make an offer?
[email down, reply here pls]
christopher borden
From: Ari <ari@loa.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: freakin ppp
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 20:46:32 -0400
Organization: Log On America, Inc.
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I installed os 4.2 intel, and I was in awe, its everything I've ever
wanted in an os, except it has no future beyond rhapsody. Thats fine,
I'll use rhapsody when its out.
Until then, I need to install PPP. My first attempt resulted in a lockup
at the start screen that required a complete format and reinstall (fun).
What package would be recommended for a simple PPP dialup using a serial
port modem?
Any tips before I try this again?
Thanks in advance
--
Ari
______________________________________________________________________
ari@loa.com postponing the release of Windows 98 "would
throw sand into the gears of human progress."
-- N. G. Mankiw, professor of economics
at Harvard.
From: dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AM-UTILS on NS3.3/Intel?
Date: 7 May 1998 13:30:35 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <6isr3r$59b@panix.com>
Hi. Has anyone managed to compile am-utils
(the fancy automount daemon plus accessories)
for NS/I?
The notes claim that it works on NS3.3/M68K,
but it fails miserably on NS/I.
Any help/pointers appreciated.
- dcl
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: freakin ppp
Date: 8 May 1998 01:33:53 GMT
Organization: none
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Send a message to 'majordomo@peak.org' with the BODY
subscribe nextppp@peak.org
and then checkout http://www.peak.org/next/ppp/ ?
4.2 has a version of PPP already installed, but it is not the newest version.
> postponing the release of Windows 98 "would throw sand into the gears of
> human progress." -- N. G. Mankiw, professor of economics at Harvard.
Can't blame an Economics prof for selling his soul to the richest man in the
universe, he was no doubt well paid for his idiocy.
TjL
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From: dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: AM-UTILS on NS3.3/Intel?
Date: 8 May 1998 12:23:04 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <6ivbh8$1vf@panix.com>
References: <6isr3r$59b@panix.com>
In <6isr3r$59b@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert) writes:
>Hi. Has anyone managed to compile am-utils
>(the fancy automount daemon plus accessories)
>for NS/I?
>The notes claim that it works on NS3.3/M68K,
>but it fails miserably on NS/I.
Sorry to followup my own post, but it turns out that v6.0a15
has problems compiling, and v6.0a16 doesn't. Still
don't know if it works, though.
From: Ryan Woodsmall <c716128@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing 3.2 Intel from IDE CD
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 16:56:34 +0000
Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com
Message-ID: <35533942.AA593DD@showme.missouri.edu>
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Mike,
Nope, you cannot do it. I bought 3.2 too, and looked all over for
information, tried over and over again, but to no avail. You cannot
use the 3.3 install floppies, which support EIDE/ATAPI, either - I
tried and asked around. Hate to burst your bubble, but you HAVE to
have a SCSI CD-ROM. And, if you're thinking of buying a SCSI
card/CD-ROM, make sure you get a supported ISA or VLB SCSI card - the
3.2 release doesn't support PCI cards. Sorry!
--
Ryan Woodsmall [woody@cdsinet.net] or [c716128@showme.missouri.edu]
Recollection Books wrote:
>
> I just picked up NextStep 3.2 Intel cheap. The
> only problem is that I only have an IDE cd-rom. Is
> there any hope of getting it installed?
>
> TIA!
> Mike
From: Ryan Woodsmall <c716128@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: solaris openstep screenshot [repost]
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 17:33:48 +0000
Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com
Message-ID: <355341FC.92202121@showme.missouri.edu>
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Sorry about not posting in so darn long - I had finals this week, and
I'm finally home. Anyway, thanks for the answer. I understood that
porting between OS 4.2 and OS/Solaris was a chore, but I didn't know it
was THAT much of a chore! I personally never used OS/Solaris, only
NS 3.3 on Intel. For a while I dreamt of a Sparc Station 10 with 128 M,
running Openstep on top of Solaris, but then they dropped it. I have
used GNUstep, and I hope XDPS under Solaris was better than Display
Ghostscript under Xfree86 on a Linux machine - It was horribly slow. I
know that it will be better in the future for GNUstep, but I don't think
development is going as fast as anyone would like.
Another side note: Apple, promising true conformance with the Openstep
standard, said that their would be a "layer" available for many
operating systems, that would allow Openstep/Rhapsody applications to
run under many os's and windowing systems. Wouldn't this essentially
be what Sun was doing with OS/Solaris - running DPS Openstep apps under
a modified X-Server? I'd think that Sun would want to help themselves
to this new development, using code that is already written. It seems
as though with a simple recompile that Openstep/Rhapsody apps would run
under ANY Unix supporting X11 and XDPS, which would add greatly to the
number of applications that are available for Solaris. Isn't this what
Sun wants - more application support for their operating system? It
seems silly to me that Sun would drop such an interesting package just
because it would have to work with Apple instead of NeXT. Why can't the
"alternative" companies (alternative as in NOT Microsoft) see that they
just might have to work together if they want to stay afloat? I think
that Sun and Apple/NeXT would have benefitted from a collaboration, but
computer industry egos got in the way. Just a thought.
--
Ryan Woodsmall [woody@cdsinet.net] or [c716128@showme.missouri.edu]
From: moetteli@citeu.unige.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Could somebody send me "SortingInAction.app"
Date: 8 May 1998 19:28:15 GMT
Organization: University of Geneva
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6ivmcf$nt0@uni2f.unige.ch>
Hi
In NeXTstep 2.0 was an example called SortingInAction. Unfortunately I lost that program. Could some kind soul send it to me by e-mail (moetteli@citeu.unige.ch)?
Thanks a lot
Phil
From: "Erik Nieves" <shadow@viasub.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MIDI on Black Hardware?
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 12:54:39 -0700
Organization: Keyway Internet Access 909-933-3650
Message-ID: <6ivnsg$1pg$1@madmax.keyway.net>
Forgive the intrusion, but does anyone in the NeXT community know if there
is an FW/SW app out there to play MIDI "*.mid" files? Any information would
sincerely be appreciated..
Thanx,
Erik
From: Christian Jensen <cejensen@winternet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MIDI on Black Hardware?
Date: 8 May 1998 23:21:26 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <6j041m$f73$1@blackice.winternet.com>
References: <6ivnsg$1pg$1@madmax.keyway.net>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 May 1998 23:21:26 GMT
"Erik Nieves" <shadow@viasub.net> wrote:
>Forgive the intrusion, but does anyone in the NeXT community know if there
>is an FW/SW app out there to play MIDI "*.mid" files?
Check out:
http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~mrozek/nextmusic/
--Chris
**************************
Chris Jensen
cejensen@winternet.com
MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger."
--Mark Twain
From: me <overa@slip.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: Need tools to salvage HD!!!
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 18:20:10 +0000
Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net)
Message-ID: <35534CDA.5239@slip.net>
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hi,
Any body know how to salvage a Next formatted hardrive? Myine crashed
and I need to get some softwareback.
Any help greatl appreciated.
me :)
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where is OlafAM ? (Answering machine app works with ZyXel)
Date: 8 May 1998 19:51:17 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6j0gb5$lj9@slip.net>
Hi,
I recall there being an application named OlafAM
which lets you set up an answering machine on
your NeXT with a Zyxel modem.
I can't find it at peak or peanuts. Does anyone
know where i should be looking, or have the app?
BTW, what was it that makes the ZyXel so special?
Does any other modem have the same feature so
it would work?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where is OlafAM ? (Answering machine app works with ZyXel)
Date: 9 May 1998 03:36:20 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <6j0ivk$986$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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In <6j0gb5$lj9@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
> I recall there being an application named OlafAM which lets you set up an
> answering machine on your NeXT with a Zyxel modem.
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/connectivity/protocol/OlafAM.1.0.6.NIHS.b.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/connectivity/protocol/OlafAM.1.0.6.README
There was actually an 'am' first:
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/unix/communication/am.1.16.s.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/unix/communication/am.1.6.README
> BTW, what was it that makes the ZyXel so special?
Quality, good hardware, good flash upgradability.
TjL
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From: Ernie.Franic@NOSPAMusfca.edu (Ernie Franic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How do you set up TCP/IP in OPENSTEP 4.2?
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 20:34:44 -0700
Organization: USF Center for Instruction & Technology
Message-ID: <Ernie.Franic-0805982034440001@citmonitor.usfca.edu>
I downloaded and installed OmniWeb successfully earlier today and am
having trouble getting it to access the web.
The TCP/IP information I want to use (in Mac OS terminology) is as follows:
IP Address: 138.202.168.121
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Router address: 138.202.168.200
Name server address: 138.202.192.10, 138.202.192.9, & 138.202.3.31
Search domains: usfca.edu
In the SimpleNetworkStarter in OPENSTEP, I have the following settings:
1. Use the network, but don't share administrative data.
2. Host name: myhost
IP address: 138.202.168.121
3. (After clicking network options button)
-Router: 138.202.168.200
-Netmask: 255.255.255.0
-NIS Domain Name (?????????)
-Broadcast Address (???????)
-Limit access to local NetInfo data to the local network is checked.
Please reply both to this newsgroup and my E-mail address (remove the
NOSPAM addition to reply).
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
Message-ID: <3553F374.674E22A9@cadvision.com>
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 00:11:00 -0600
From: Mark Gregory <gregorym@cadvision.com>
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Subject: WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP 2.0 - still avalable anywhere?
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Hi. I've recently acquired a vintage NeXT Cube, and I'm in love with the
OS, the display, and the printer.
I would prefer to use WordPerfect as my word processor however. Does
anyone know if WordPerfect for NeXT is available anywhere?
A search or Corel's website didn't find any matches on "NeXT",
"NeXTSTEP", etc. I presume NeXT WordPerfect went out of production when
the hardware did. Given that WordPerfect has changed hands several times
since, is it possible the software was released to the public domain? Or
does anyone have a stash of software (preferable on optical disk - no
floppy in my cube!) that they're willing to part with? Any help would be
much appreciated.
Mark Gregory
gregorym@cadvision.com
From: spagiola@usa.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Page order in .ps files
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 14:07:22 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6j1nuq$vcu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Saving from the print panel seems to generate a .ps file with the pages
back-to-front, which is a problem when these files are used to generate PDF
files. I recall a utility that changes the page order in .ps files. Can anyone
point me to it? (This is for NeXTSTEP 3.2).
Thanks in advance,
Stefano Pagiola
My opinions alone
Longtime MacOS and NeXTSTEP user, reluctant Windows 95/NT user, future
Rhapsody user
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From: Paul Buckley <pb141@columbia.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where is OlafAM ? (Answering machine app works with ZyXel)
Date: 9 May 1998 15:47:41 GMT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Message-ID: <6j1tqt$72k$1@news7.ispnews.com>
References: <6j0gb5$lj9@slip.net> <6j0ivk$986$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
In-Reply-To: <6j0ivk$986$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
| > BTW, what was it that makes the ZyXel so special?
|
| Quality, good hardware, good flash upgradability.
|
| TjL
They still have not released a firmware upgrade to 56K, although it is
promised. Otherwise very good support.
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do you set up TCP/IP in OPENSTEP 4.2?
Date: 9 May 1998 15:48:34 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <6j1tsi$eni$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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In <Ernie.Franic-0805982034440001@citmonitor.usfca.edu> Ernie Franic wrote:
> I downloaded and installed OmniWeb successfully earlier today and am
> having trouble getting it to access the web.
>
> The TCP/IP information I want to use (in Mac OS terminology) is as follows:
>
> IP Address: 138.202.168.121
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> Router address: 138.202.168.200
Use HostManager.app, specifically the 'Local' option
> Name server address: 138.202.192.10, 138.202.192.9, & 138.202.3.31
> Search domains: usfca.edu
/etc/resolv.conf should be a plain ASCII file (use Edit.app and make sure it
does not end in RTF)
domain usfca.edu
nameserver 138.202.192.10
nameserver 138.202.192.9
nameserver 138.202.3.31
TjL
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP 2.0 - still avalable anywhere?
Date: 9 May 1998 15:46:09 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <6j1to1$eni$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
References: <3553F374.674E22A9@cadvision.com>
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In <3553F374.674E22A9@cadvision.com> Mark Gregory wrote:
> I would prefer to use WordPerfect as my word processor however. Does
> anyone know if WordPerfect for NeXT is available anywhere?
It does exist. V 1.0.1 18 Mar 1994 is the last version I know of... roughly
equiv to WP5.1
> Given that WordPerfect has changed hands several times since, is it
> possible the software was released to the public domain?
WP and WP for Unix are now handled by 2 different companies.
Neither one said anything about releasing the NeXTStep version to PD, however
it is probably also true that neither one of the current owners knows there
was ever a NeXTStep port done.
> Or does anyone have a stash of software (preferable on optical disk - no
> floppy in my cube!) that they're willing to part with? Any help would be
> much appreciated.
Unlikely, there is much more demand than supply at this point. I'm not even
sure that the version I have would work for 2.0
TjL
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do you set up TCP/IP in OPENSTEP 4.2?
Date: 9 May 1998 15:52:22 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <6j1u3m$eni$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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In <Ernie.Franic-0805982034440001@citmonitor.usfca.edu> Ernie Franic wrote:
> Please reply both to this newsgroup and my E-mail address (remove the
> NOSPAM addition to reply).
Always nice when someone asks for an email reply that requires me to edit the
address doesn't provide a working address
The original message was received at Sat, 9 May 1998 11:48:41 -0400 (EDT)
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From: "webmaster" <stasm@geocities.com>
Newsgroups: comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.software.international,comp.software.licensing,comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,de.admin.n
Subject: Cool Download Site
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 02:36:05 +0100
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From: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Warning for SoftPC users!
Date: 9 May 1998 23:00:02 GMT
Organization: IDT
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The new Floppy Driver version 4.20 for Openstep4.x does not work with SoftPC.
I had to switch back to 4.00. If anybody was successful, let me know.
Thanks..
--
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echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
NeXTMail, SUN, MIME OK!
/==========================/
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <14190894168021@digifix.com>
Date: 10 May 1998 03:49:44 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <1562894772821@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
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From: no@more.spam (Markus =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=F6rnkvist)?=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Benchmark for Rhapsody and OPENSTEP for Mach
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 09:46:18 GMT
Organization: No organisation
Sender: markus@haddock.cd.chalmers.se (Markus Hprnkvist)
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My brother and I had a few hours of spare time last night, so we wrote a
postscript benchmark suite for OPENSTEP. We plan to add system benchmarks
later.
DeadLift.app has been uploaded to the peak archive in OPENSTEP and Rhapsody
versions.
Regards,
Markus Hornkvist
name: helge
address: cd.chalmers.se
John Hornkvist
name: nhoj
address: cd.chalmers.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: olaf@orest.escape.de
Subject: Re: Where is OlafAM ? (Answering machine app works with ZyXel)
Message-ID: <Esqvup.Hq@orest.escape.de>
Sender: olaf@orest.escape.de (Olaf Mueller)
Organization: Objective Methods, Inc.
References: <6j0ivk$986$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 14:20:49 GMT
In article <6j0ivk$986$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma) writes:
> In <6j0gb5$lj9@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
>
> > I recall there being an application named OlafAM which lets you set up an
> > answering machine on your NeXT with a Zyxel modem.
>
>
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/connectivity/protocol/OlafAM.1.0.6.NIHS.b.tar.
gz
> ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/connectivity/protocol/OlafAM.1.0.6.README
>
> There was actually an 'am' first:
>
> ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/unix/communication/am.1.16.s.tar.gz
> ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/unix/communication/am.1.6.README
>
>
>
> > BTW, what was it that makes the ZyXel so special?
>
> Quality, good hardware, good flash upgradability.
ZyXEL has very good programmers manuals, even example programs, which
makes it easy for programmers to support their features.
But in the meantime OlafAM supports the voice and fax features of a lot
of other manufacturers, especially german like ELSA or CREATIX, and may be
some others.
Regards
Olaf
From: "Ben Penther" <b.penther@Virgin.net>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.easter-eggs,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,cu.cs.systems+software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.internet.software,de.comm.software.crosspoint,de.comm.software.forte-agent,de.comm.software.mailr
Subject: Microsoft Flight Simulator for £20
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:25:54 +0100
Organization: Virgin Net Usenet Service
Message-ID: <6j4upb$miq$1@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net>
*For Sale* Microsoft Flight Simulator for Windows 95 (Brand New with Manual)
£20 including postage in the UK (Worth £34.99)
Please e-mail me at b.penther@Virgin.net if you are interested
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: Need tools to salvage HD!!!
Message-ID: <1998051020581100.QAA19434@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 10 May 1998 20:58:11 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <35534CDA.5239@slip.net>
How badly is it crashed? If it still starts to boot, but hangs up at the fsck,
checking disks, section and tells you to run fsck manually, you should be able
to get at least some stuff back.
Simply do as it suggests, and run fsck there at the * prompt.
There's been some discussion of that in the past here (started by me on one
occasion, the voice of experience here) which you should be able to find via
DejaNews.
Hope this helps!
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Page order in .ps files
Message-ID: <1998051021010200.RAA23982@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 10 May 1998 21:01:02 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6j1nuq$vcu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
PSUtils will do this (and lots of other things to).
There used to be a nicely compiled copy of it as a .pkg which installed with an
attractive icon and everything, but I haven't been able to find it since losing
it.
I suspect that the change you want can be made by modifying the .ppd or
creating a printer installation just for creating .pdfs using a .ppd for a
printer which deposits its printouts face down (i.e. a LaserJet 4m).
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP 2.0 - still avalable anywhere?
Message-ID: <1998051021050700.RAA24361@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 10 May 1998 21:05:07 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <3553F374.674E22A9@cadvision.com>
I'm fairly certain that WP1.0.1 worked under NS 2.0 and know for a fact that
it runs under NS2.1 (still have that on a hard drive.)
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Gregory Gee <ggee@playground.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need boot floppy???
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 20:14:30 -0400
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I was wondering if someone could tell how I can make
an install floppy. I have to reinstall my NS3.3 and I can't
find my boot/install floppy. Could someone tell me how
to create a boot/install floppy. Is there floppy images on
the CD???
Thanks,
Greg.
ggee@playground.net
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From: opardalis@aol.com (Opardalis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Apache bin for NS3.3
Message-ID: <1998051100425400.UAA13139@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 11 May 1998 00:42:54 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Does anyone know where you can download a pre-compiled binary of apache for
NS3.3?
-jve
From: "Brian Bahr" <bahr@werewolf.net>
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Subject: Re: Microsoft Flight Simulator for £20
Date: 11 May 1998 01:27:27 GMT
Organization: -=BAHR=- (Y2K Recovery)
Message-ID: <01bd7c7b$2ad892e0$3ae167ce@renderman>
References: <6j4upb$miq$1@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net>
> *For Sale* Microsoft Flight Simulator for Windows 95 (Brand New with
Manual)
> £20 including postage in the UK (Worth £34.99)
> Please e-mail me at b.penther@Virgin.net if you are interested
>
Is it Y2K compliant? And will the control towers in the game fail if I set
the time to 2000?
From: Steve Dover <swd@strata-group.Xcom>
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Subject: Re: Microsoft Flight Simulator for =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A320?=
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:51:09 -0500
Organization: Are you kidding?
Message-ID: <3556598D.E148B3D3@strata-group.Xcom>
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Brian Bahr wrote:
> =
> > *For Sale* Microsoft Flight Simulator for Windows 95 (Brand New with
> Manual)
> > =A320 including postage in the UK (Worth =A334.99)
> > Please e-mail me at b.penther@Virgin.net if you are interested
> >
> =
> Is it Y2K compliant? And will the control towers in the game fail if I=
set
> the time to 2000?
menu option.
-- =
Are you ready for year MM?
The Mother of all Messes.
600 days to go.
From: zan <zanman@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Customizing Login NS 3.3
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 00:16:31 -0400
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At the moment I am the only one who uses my NeXTStep 3.3 Intel computer,
I expect this to change when I go off to college, so I am getting it
ready to be used by more then one person. I would like to display a
photograph for each user (after login of course) and edit the main login
window. I am using the user edition of NS 3.3 for Intel but I plan on
buying the academic bundle soon. Can this be done, or am I better off
using XDM and Linux?
Zan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Page order in .ps files
References: <6j1nuq$vcu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
From: no_spam_frank@ifi.unibas.ch
Message-ID: <3556ad96.0@maser.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 11 May 98 07:49:42 GMT
spagiola@usa.net wrote:
> Saving from the print panel seems to generate a .ps file with the
pages
> back-to-front, which is a problem when these files are used to
generate PDF
> files. I recall a utility that changes the page order in .ps
files. Can anyone
> point me to it? (This is for NeXTSTEP 3.2).
This is because you selected a NeXT printer. These printers would
eject the pages such that the last printed page would be on top of
the pile. Thus, the PS engine would reverse the order of the pages
so that the first document page would be on top of the pile.
If you have another printer to choose from, say an HP, then
selecting this printer and saving will get the PS file in 'normal'
order. IF you need this quite often, install a dummy printer on a
serial line and use that for saving.
-Robert
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: solaris openstep screenshot [repost]
References: <6igv78$cp0$1@clarknet.clark.net> <354D59D6.809C2EC@showme.missouri.edu> <6ijp1v$p11@nnrp1.farm.idt.net> <354DDADE.667A74CD@showme.missouri.edu> <6iqq6l$kva$1@amdint.amd.com> <355341FC.92202121@showme.missouri.edu>
From: no_spam_frank@ifi.unibas.ch
Message-ID: <3556aee3.0@maser.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 11 May 98 07:55:15 GMT
Ryan Woodsmall <c716128@showme.missouri.edu> wrote:
[..]
>
> Another side note: Apple, promising true conformance with the Openstep
> standard, said that their would be a "layer" available for many
> operating systems, that would allow Openstep/Rhapsody applications to
> run under many os's and windowing systems.
My dream too ...
> Wouldn't this essentially
> be what Sun was doing with OS/Solaris - running DPS Openstep apps under
> a modified X-Server? I'd think that Sun would want to help themselves
> to this new development, using code that is already written. It seems
> as though with a simple recompile that Openstep/Rhapsody apps would run
> under ANY Unix supporting X11 and XDPS, which would add greatly to the
> number of applications that are available for Solaris.
And other unices, such as FreeBSD and Linux, ...
> Isn't this what
> Sun wants - more application support for their operating system? It
> seems silly to me that Sun would drop such an interesting package just
> because it would have to work with Apple instead of NeXT.
I would say it wasn't because of Apple, but because of Java ...
> Why can't the
> "alternative" companies (alternative as in NOT Microsoft) see that they
> just might have to work together if they want to stay afloat? I think
> that Sun and Apple/NeXT would have benefitted from a collaboration, but
That's what I keep telling our SUN sales representatives. SUN has an awful
lot to 'catch up' as to sysadmin tools that are easy to use (yes, I do
*prefere* GUI tools, but there should always be a command line version too
[for scripting]), and which actually work ...
> computer industry egos got in the way. Just a thought.
-Robert
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From: Thomas_Michel@t-online.de (Thomas Michel)
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Subject: Re: Microsoft Flight Simulator for £20
Date: 11 May 1998 05:44:44 GMT
Message-ID: <6j638c$u8a$1@news01.btx.dtag.de>
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On Sun, 10 May 1998 20:25:54 +0100, "Ben Penther" <b.penther@Virgin.net>
wrote:
Am Sun, 10 May 1998 20:25:54 +0100 hat "Ben Penther"
<b.penther@Virgin.net> geschrieben:
|>*For Sale* Microsoft Flight Simulator for Windows 95 (Brand New with Manual)
|>£20 including postage in the UK (Worth £34.99)
Is it the version with built in Forte-agent and crosspoint, easter-eggs,
automatic display of new software - or why do you post your shit to all
these newsgroups?
I presume, that you do not understand the complex sense of this message,
so you will get that several times via e-mail ...
--
Best wishes from Thomas Michel (Meiningen/Germany)
From: ji2k@weyl.math.Virginia.EDU (John Z. Imbrie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: current information on using NetInfo?
Date: 11 May 1998 16:28:24 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia
Message-ID: <6j78v8$5ui$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Is there a reference on NetInfo and other issues relating to
setting up network services for NS 3.3 which is better than
"Network and System Administration" which is copyright 1990,
and relates to an earlier operating system? The NS 3.3 documentation
that shipped with that OS contains little if anything on these issues.
I've attempted to use some of the procedures described in the "white
book" to access printers on the network here, but without success. Tried
to set up SambaManager but my NetInfo configuration was clearly inadequate
for that and I almost rendered things unusable.
Are there lots of significant differences setting up NetInfo with networks
found today as compared to networks around when "Network and System
Administration" was written?
John Imbrie
From: "Avery Glasser" <Avery.Glasser@mci.com>
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Subject: Netsurfer?
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Does anyone know what the last version of the Netsurfer Browser was?
The latest version I could find on the net was 1.0b
-- Avery Glasser
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From: Philippe Steindl <psteindl@webshuttle.ch>
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Subject: Media sense error while installing 3.3.on black next
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 00:00:26 +0200
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Hello,
I recently got a black next and tried to install NS3.3 to its internal
406 MB HD. I inserted the floppy, did a b fd and it started
installation. It starts copying the files and all, but always files at a
certain point (near the end) with a media sense error on the CDROM
drive's scsi ID. The cdrom is a 20Plex cdrom .. is it too modern or to
fast or something? Or what would cause this error .. a badly scratched
CD etc? Help appreciated!
See ya,
PS
From: ogihara@seg.kobe-u.ac.jp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ToyViewer 3.00 for OPENSTEP
Date: 12 May 98 19:55:54
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ToyViewer 3.00 for OPENSTEP (Mach only) is available.
(For NEXTSTEP users, the latest version of ToyViewer for NEXTSTEP is
ToyViewer 2.6a.)
You can get it here:
ftp://tuba.csedu.kobe-u.ac.jp/pub/OPENSTEP
or
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~hq2t-oghr/next/toyv-eng.html
Read README file and copyright notice, please.
Try and enjoy!
-------------------------
Abstract
1. ToyViewer can read and display image files in following formats:
tiff, eps, gif, bmp, png, jpg, bie(jbig), pcx, pcd,
pnm(ppm, pbm, pgm), xbm, mag
2. Displayed images can be saved in following formats:
tiff, eps, gif, bmp, png, jpg, bie(jbig), pnm, xbm
3. ToyViewer can read and write gif or png files with transparent color,
and also can read and write interlaced(progressive) gif, png, or jpg
files.
4. ToyViewer can scan (auto-display) image files in a folder.
5. Displayed images can be scaled (enlarge/shrink).
6. You can rotate, flip, or clip images.
7. ToyViewer has ability to adjust brightness/contrast of the image, to
enhance edges, and to make embossing effects.
8. You can replace specified color with other color or transparent color.
9. Full color images can be reduced into 256, 64, or 8 colors. Also, each
color value of images can be cut down to 4, 2, or 1 bit.
10. ToyViewer can make images monochrome (8bit gray, 2bit gray, or bilevel).
11. Images can be displayed on background of the Workspace as "wallpaper".
You can specify files to be displayed automatically as wallpaper when
ToyViewer is launched.
12. Images can be printed.
13. You can set ToyViewer to display any image format if there is a filter
program to ppm format.
14. ToyViewer provides image conversion filter services. Any image format
can take advantage of filter service if there is a filter program to
ppm format. ToyViewer3.00 can provide filter services to applications
of both OPENSTEP and NPENSTEP.
15. You can add comments to images (comments are written into only gif,
png, jpg, or pnm formats).
Comment
- You can use ToyViewer3.00 on OPENSTEP but NEXTSTEP. ToyViewer3.00 can
provide filter services to applications of both OPENSTEP and NPENSTEP.
- You can use ToyViewer2.6a on also OPENSTEP 4.1. But, it can not provide
filter services to applications which use framework of OPENSTEP.
------
Takeshi Ogihara @ KOBE University
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
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Subject: co-Xist, where is PENCOM?
Date: 12 May 1998 12:54:16 GMT
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Hello,
I would like to know if one can still buy co-Xist for NS3.3 (Intel). I tried
mailing to pencom, but the mail bounced. If someone has a copy to sell,
please make me an offer (academic).
Thanks!
Helmut
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From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netsurfer?
Date: 12 May 1998 13:56:20 GMT
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"Avery Glasser" wrote:
> Does anyone know what the last version of the Netsurfer Browser was?
> The latest version I could find on the net was 1.0b
2.0 beta or maybe a point release - the first and last version that
makes use of the NetKit. Both are dead.
A minute of silence, please.
hh
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From: fcentler@informatik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Florian Centler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: vim5.0f / vim 5.1
Date: 12 May 1998 14:56:11 GMT
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Hi!
Did anyone got vim 5.0f or vim 5.1 compiled on NeXT?
I tried to compile 5.1 on a white NeXT (Intel) under OpenStep 4.1 and I managed to get everything
compiled (ignoring lot's of warnings ;) but at the stage of linking I got:
cc -o vim buffer.o charset.o digraph.o edit.o eval.o ex_cmds.o ex_docmd.o ex_getln.o
fileio.o getchar.o main.o mark.o memfile.o memline.o message.o misc1.o misc2.o normal.o
ops.o option.o os_unix.o pathdef.o quickfix.o regexp.o screen.o search.o syntax.o tag.o
term.o ui.o undo.o window.o if_perl.o if_perlsfio.o version.o -u libsys_s -arch i386
-L/usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/perl5/next-fat/5.00402/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a
/usr/local/lib/perl5/next-fat/5.00402/CORE/libperl.a
/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
libsys_s
_putenv
_poll
_semctl
_semget
_semop
_shmat
_shmctl
_shmdt
_shmget
*** Exit 1
Stop.
Any suggestions?
Thx in advance.
cu Florian
From: "Sung Ho Kim" <sk68@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: co-Xist, where is PENCOM?
Date: 12 May 1998 22:21:55 GMT
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Helmut Heller <heller@lrz.de> wrote in article
<6j9gpo$dhg$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>...
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if one can still buy co-Xist for NS3.3 (Intel). I
tried
> mailing to pencom, but the mail bounced. If someone has a copy to sell,
> please make me an offer (academic).
To the best of my limited knowledge, I think Pencom's Co-Xist was bought by
Intuitive Systems (makers of CubX) and they offered an "upgrade" path from
Co-Xist to CubX for a fee. I think even this has died. You might want to
email Intuitive Systems, though. Check out their website about the upgrade
path at http://www.intuisys.com/cubx/cindex.html. Hopefully this helped
somewhat.
Sung Ho Kim
sk68@cornell.edu
>
> Thanks!
> Helmut
>
> --
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welcome_________________
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------------------------------------------------
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> Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ)
>
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Subject: Re: Help: Need tools to salvage HD!!!
Date: 12 May 1998 23:53:59 GMT
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In <1998051020581100.QAA19434@ladder03.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
> How badly is it crashed? If it still starts to boot, but hangs up at
the fsck,
> checking disks, section and tells you to run fsck manually, you
should be able
> to get at least some stuff back.
NO. NO. NO. Face loosing data this way. If your controller isn't
hosed
the best thing to do is to do a binary copy on the drive to back up all
of the
data on the disk. This is # 1 thing to do. #2 would be to obtain a
second
drive that is larger than the first and then to copy that data on to
the second
block for block (dd helps - I have some custom tools I use for paying
clients
that pass over bad blocks). After that run fsck on the new disk with
the
copy of the old filesystem. This way if fsck completely freaks out
then you
have some change to get data back otherwise face loosing all or big
chunks
of your data.
What Wil is suggesting is a possible destructive repair (you'll loose
stuff).
Many times I'll run fsck -n (or whatever I need to say no to repairs
etc. or
do it by hand) to see what fsck wants to fix. If it's minimial then
you might
cross your fingers and get lucky..
If your superblocks are hosed there is a possible way to recover but
its trickier unless you have saved a copy of your superblock (that
reminds
me to upload the tool for backing up the superblock and label which
would
give me or anyone else with a good skill a good shot at recovery.)
> Simply do as it suggests, and run fsck there at the * prompt.
>
> There's been some discussion of that in the past here (started by me
on one
> occasion, the voice of experience here) which you should be able to
find via
> DejaNews.
>
Yes there have been a number of discussions which you can find in
dejanews.
YOu should also give more information as to what goes wrong.
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
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From: Ken Worthy <kenw@silcon.com>
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Subject: JDK for OpenStep?
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 23:30:08 -0700
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This might be a silly question, but is the JDK available for any versions
of OpenStep that run on black NeXT hardware?
I'd like to start doing some Java development. Do I really have to get a
PC?
Thanks,
Ken Worthy
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Subject: Re: Could somebody send me "SortingInAction.app"
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35595ee7.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 13 May 98 08:50:47 GMT
Maybe you can build it yourself from the src-codes in
/NextDeveloper/Examples. If not send me a mail and I'll build it for you
(System, OS, NeXTmail or uu?)
greets
Sven
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From: Misha Hill <mishakim@mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: newest good OS for black 040 mono
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 02:12:03 -0400
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I've got a cube and a slab, both 040 mono, 24mb ram. Can anyone tell me
what is the most recent version of NeXTstep/OpenStep that I can/should
run on them? Assuming that's answered, where can I get the install
media/files? I've got some in-house apps ported from our dec/solaris
network running under 2.1 that I'd like to keep, but no-one remembers
how they were ported or has the source, so if I can upgrade in a way
that will keep them running, that's a plus.
Thanks,
Misha Hill
mishakim@mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:22:22 +0800
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My Web site is look like this
http://www.advertising-web.com/ad/s
try to click "Globex Industrial Company"
I want to use database to do that !
and after click is show one company only !
where can find this program ? please help .
emailto:adweb5@hotmail.com
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Subject: Re: MIDI on Black Hardware?
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35596269.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 13 May 98 09:05:45 GMT
"Erik Nieves" <shadow@viasub.net> wrote:
>Forgive the intrusion, but does anyone in the NeXT community know if there
>is an FW/SW app out there to play MIDI "*.mid" files? Any information would
>sincerely be appreciated..
All (official) progs for playing .mid-files on black are of sh*t-quality if
you do not have got a keyboard (that is making music, not that is making
characters :-)) connected to your slab.
There is the port of timidy (MMP.app) from Frank Siegert Area 51, but only
for intel which use realy good patches and plays the .mids just like on a
keyboard.
I could not make such a cool program (like Franks) and he didn't like the
idea of building MMP for black because of the lack of realtime on slow
machines.
For black hardware:
The solutions: if you can live with a hack: I'll send the black version of
timidy with a script to play .mid and to packages with patches to my ftp-site
wmad62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de under /pub/sdroll. Beware the patches are
huge and all is without warranty. This will last at least until tomorrow.
As a bonus there will also be a .mus-player for DOOM-mus-files ...
All of this works fine on my slab and cube...
greets
Sven
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DropPDF - any need?
Date: 13 May 1998 19:22:38 GMT
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In <6jce7d$lhd$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> Another PDF related feature request would be saving to PDF from
> within the print dialog - I often find myself looking at e.g. a
> Web page and wanting to store it for later reference. HTML is
> not adequate, as you often lose diagrams and other information.
> Compressed PDF would be the format of choice, but I have to go
> through PostScript and a seperate run of PStill.
Already done, PStill in its newest incarnation (1.10r) has a PrintFilter
included. :-) Just install it in /LocalLibrary/Services (or local for your
user) and you should be able to print directly to PDF including compression
and all other features PStill provides.
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From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can I digitize analog audio in some way on my Cube (e.g. using the DSP)?
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 21:14:09 GMT
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I was wondering if there is a way to feed my Cube audio (but not using the
microphone) and turn it into CD-type snd files. I am looking for a way to
move my records to CD's on my NeXT cube. Is this what 'digital ears' could
do?
Thanks,
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From: ginz1@juno.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need boot floppy???
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 05:45:48 GMT
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References: <3554F166.1355FCE3@playground.net> <6jdp9a$np8$1@eve.enteract.com>
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1921.htmld/1921.html
This also might be useful to you.
ginz1@juno.com wrote:
>http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1886.htmld/1886.html
>This is were you can find a disk image of a boot floppy for 3.3
>Hope this is what you wanted?
>ginz...
>Gregory Gee <ggee@playground.net> wrote:
>>I was wondering if someone could tell how I can make
>>an install floppy. I have to reinstall my NS3.3 and I can't
>>find my boot/install floppy. Could someone tell me how
>>to create a boot/install floppy. Is there floppy images on
>>the CD???
>>Thanks,
>>Greg.
>>ggee@playground.net
From: ginz1@juno.com
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Subject: Re: Need boot floppy???
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 05:43:08 GMT
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http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1886.htmld/1886.html
This is were you can find a disk image of a boot floppy for 3.3
Hope this is what you wanted?
ginz...
Gregory Gee <ggee@playground.net> wrote:
>I was wondering if someone could tell how I can make
>an install floppy. I have to reinstall my NS3.3 and I can't
>find my boot/install floppy. Could someone tell me how
>to create a boot/install floppy. Is there floppy images on
>the CD???
>Thanks,
>Greg.
>ggee@playground.net
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DropPDF - any need?
Date: 13 May 1998 14:32:35 GMT
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I am thinking about putting together a tiny application to print PDFs fast &
reliable, without stressing the WindowsServer, etc... Just drag some PDFs to
an AppIcon and pronto they come out of your desired printer (Level 1 & 2,
encryption... does not matter). Is there need for such a puppy (free of
course) - methinks 'DropPDF' comes as name to mind?
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sybase Limited Server on 3.3
Date: 13 May 1998 20:51:00 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6jdpn4$e3r@slip.net>
Hi,
Does anyone know if Sybase Limited Server
will run under NeXTSTEP 3.3? The documentation
says it was built for 2.0.
Thanks,
Emmett
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DropPDF - any need?
Date: 13 May 1998 15:28:45 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote:
>I am thinking about putting together a tiny application to print PDFs fast &
>reliable, without stressing the WindowsServer, etc... Just drag some PDFs to
>an AppIcon and pronto they come out of your desired printer (Level 1 & 2,
>encryption... does not matter). Is there need for such a puppy (free of
>course) - methinks 'DropPDF' comes as name to mind?
Hiya Frank,
Sounds quite useful! I'm sure you'll include a command line utility
with the app wrapper, since this might also come in handy.
Another PDF related feature request would be saving to PDF from
within the print dialog - I often find myself looking at e.g. a
Web page and wanting to store it for later reference. HTML is
not adequate, as you often lose diagrams and other information.
Compressed PDF would be the format of choice, but I have to go
through PostScript and a seperate run of PStill.
Best regards, Chris
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DropPDF - any need?
Message-ID: <1998051316061200.MAA11255@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 13 May 1998 16:06:12 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6jce7d$lhd$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
I save design pieces which I'm going to need to print later as .pdfs, so this
would be ideal for me, making this even more efficient.
I'd love it!
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
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From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DropPDF - any need?
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 01:56:43 -0400
Organization: Michigan State University
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To: "Frank M. Siegert" <frank@this.net>
In-Reply-To: <6jcau3$6t9$1@news.seicom.net>
On 13 May 1998, Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> I am thinking about putting together a tiny application to print PDFs fast &
> reliable, without stressing the WindowsServer, etc... Just drag some PDFs to
> an AppIcon and pronto they come out of your desired printer (Level 1 & 2,
> encryption... does not matter). Is there need for such a puppy (free of
> course) - methinks 'DropPDF' comes as name to mind?
Hi Frank,
how are you doing? I think that this sounds great. Would you consider
some kind of page layout preferences useful and reasonably easy to
implement?
a) That dropping a PDF file on the icon would open the print panel with
a button for page layout, as in PDFView.
b) Some kind of preferences for 2-up, printer selection and printer
options (like 2-sided)
Well, it might be too much to ask, but I mostly print 2-up and 2-sided, so
this would be nice to have. But again, it's just a thought which crossed
my mind.
Thanks for this contribution.
Rudy
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From: jes@rednsi.com (Josep Egea i Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sybase Limited Server on 3.3
Date: 14 May 1998 09:53:12 GMT
Organization: Telefonica Transmision de Datos
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In <6jdpn4$e3r@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
> Does anyone know if Sybase Limited Server
> will run under NeXTSTEP 3.3? The documentation
> says it was built for 2.0.
It does for me. It also runs on OPENSTEP 4.2, though I haven't been able to
use the companion administration app.
Hope to help
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DropPDF - any need?
Date: 14 May 1998 14:20:23 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6jeuj7$k22$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6jcau3$6t9$1@news.seicom.net> <6jce7d$lhd$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <6jcrtu$d40$1@news.seicom.net>
frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote:
>In <6jce7d$lhd$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
>> Another PDF related feature request would be saving to PDF from
>> within the print dialog - I often find myself looking at e.g. a
>> Web page and wanting to store it for later reference. HTML is
>> not adequate, as you often lose diagrams and other information.
>> Compressed PDF would be the format of choice, but I have to go
>> through PostScript and a seperate run of PStill.
>
>Already done, PStill in its newest incarnation (1.10r) has a PrintFilter
>included. :-) Just install it in /LocalLibrary/Services (or local for your
>user) and you should be able to print directly to PDF including compression
>and all other features PStill provides.
Frank Siegert = kewel.
Chris, wondering whether Sun has any intentions to lighthouse Frank Siegert
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Subject: Re: MIDI on Black Hardware?
References: <6ivnsg$1pg$1@madmax.keyway.net> <35596269.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <355b086d.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 14 May 98 15:06:21 GMT
The new (and working) address for my ftp-site with a black version of timidy,
qmus2mid and vice is
ftp://ftp.astro.uni-wuerzburg.de/pub/outgoing/sdroll/
greets (and sorry)
Sven
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From: rubsamen@pro-audio.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can I digitize analog audio in some way on my Cube (e.g. using the DSP)?
Date: 14 May 1998 16:04:14 GMT
Organization: PROLINK GbRmbH
Message-ID: <895161609.223542@Sol.prolink.de>
References: <EswyzL.1q7@RnA.NL>
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Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote:
>I was wondering if there is a way to feed my Cube audio (but not using the
>microphone) and turn it into CD-type snd files. I am looking for a way to
>move my records to CD's on my NeXT cube. Is this what 'digital ears' could
>do?
Yep. DigitalEars is probably the cheapest but nice solution. You can switch
it to 1 channel of 88,2 kHz sampling rate. The AD 64 is still made, but it's
very very expensive.
BTW. I sell my DigitalEars,
- Marcus
From: qvc_sales@qualityservice.com (Ken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for more CPU SPEED? READ!
Date: 14 May 1998 11:25:00 -0500
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If so, you might want to check out this auction for ROCKET BOOST.
ROCKET BOOST is a software program that can actually increase your cpu
speed by 70% or more. The URL is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=14038999
It won't hurt to look.
Ken
Message-ID: <355B5545.CC6211D2@sympatico.ca>
From: Jeff Brand <print.three@sympatico.ca>
Organization: Print Three
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Subject: Re: Looking for more CPU SPEED? READ!
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:34:29 GMT
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Ken wrote:
> If so, you might want to check out this auction for ROCKET BOOST.
> ROCKET BOOST is a software program that can actually increase your cpu
> speed by 70% or more. The URL is:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=14038999
>
> It won't hurt to look.
>
> Ken
Is it really possible? I very much doubt it.
Look at the above web site for a laugh, but I think the logic behind it is
ridiculous.
From: "tryingtimes" <info@solistech.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.databases,fido7.kharkov.software,comp.sys.next.software,comp.software-eng,comp.software.year-2000
Subject: Re: help !
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:12:59 -0500
Organization: Kiva Networking
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Netscape Navagator Gold 3.03 is what they made it with the rest is pure programming in html!
Good luck you'll need lots of books!
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From: Colin Doncaster <colind@calibre-dd.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: uncompressing .compressed files
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 18:14:49 -0400
Organization: UUNET Canada News Transport
Message-ID: <355B6CD9.DB7EC147@calibre-dd.com>
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So how do I uncompress .compressed files if I don't have Next
installed yet?
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-------------------------------------------------------
From: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newton Connectivity!
Date: 14 May 1998 23:02:26 GMT
Organization: IDT
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I know there is an application for Newton Connectivity, can someone point the
way. I think it was posted before, but I can't seem to find the old posting
via DejaNews. Thanks.
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From: Timothy J Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid-address@luomat.peak.org>
Sender: luomat@luomat
To: Colin Doncaster <colind@calibre-dd.com>
Subject: Re: uncompressing .compressed files
In-Reply-To: <355B6CD9.DB7EC147@calibre-dd.com>
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change .compressed to .tar.Z
TjL
On Thu, 14 May 1998, Colin Doncaster wrote:
> So how do I uncompress .compressed files if I don't have Next
> installed yet?
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Colin Doncaster Animator and Technical Director
> Calibre Digital Pictures 416 531-8383
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: uncompressing .compressed files
Date: 15 May 1998 00:13:33 GMT
Organization: MiscKit Development
Message-ID: <6jg1bd$kf0$2@news.xmission.com>
References: <355B6CD9.DB7EC147@calibre-dd.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.980514193535.1081A-100000@luomat>
> On Thu, 14 May 1998, Colin Doncaster wrote:
> > So how do I uncompress .compressed files if I don't have Next
> > installed yet?
Timothy J Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid-address@luomat.peak.org> wrote:
> change .compressed to .tar.Z
<silliness with_facts_sprinkled_in="yes">
No, dammit!
How many time do I have to tell you people?
Use gnutar and not tar!
Why?
If the .compressed file has any pathnames in it that are longer than 100
characters, then using tar is GUARANTEED to decompress it incorrectly. Many
of the .compressed files don't have the longer path names, so you'll get away
with using tar just enough to give you confidence in what you're doing. And
then one day you'll find something you can't unpack and you'll spend hours
banging your head against it, trying to figure out what went wrong, since sum
and md5 report that the ftp transfer was OK...
Save yourself the frustration. Use gnutar.
If it matters, as more support to my argument, WorkSpace uses gnutar and NOT
tar to pack up the files. Therefore, I again strongly suggest you use gnutar
to unpack them.
If I say it enough times, maybe folks will _remember_ this fact.
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
More shockingly, at least once a month I get a query from someone who
couldn't get the MiscKit to unpack correctly. I put "gnutar" and not "tar"
in the filename of the distribution. Even that isn't enough to convince
people not to try and use tar.
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar gnutar
</silliness>
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-Don Yacktman
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DropPDF - any need?
Date: 15 May 1998 03:12:54 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
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Ok, a first version of DropPDF (beta m68k and Intel,both need some more
testing) is downloadable from
http://www.this.net/~frank/download.html
* DropPDF is a PDF to PS converter for NeXTSTEP (the other way round of
PStill...)
It features:
- Drag-N-Drop Interface
- Opens PDF file types
- Support for PDF files up to v1.2 inc. PDF Encryption
(Do not reexport this App from the United States - it contains strong
crypography!
this.net is located in Germany so everyone can fetch it from there)
- Outputs to Preview.app, File and Printer
- Creates Level 2 and Level 1 conforming PS code (DSC compliant - not fully
tested)
- Variable page size for output
- N-up PDF printing
- Selectable page range
- Type 1 font embedding in output PS
- Command line utility 'pdftops' can be found in the app wrapper
PStill can read the output of DropPDF if running configured for PS Level 1,
so using this app combination you are able to 'convert' encrypted or
uncompressed PDFs to unencrypted & compressed PDFs on the fly (need some more
testing)...
The version of pdftops is taken (with some changes) from the great xpdf-0.7a
package by Derek B. Noonburg. I will hand all changes and enhancements I
introduced in pdftops to him.
Surely I have forgotten something and some problems may still lurk in the app
(keep in mind - It is a 6 hour hack...), please try it out and tell me if it
works for you. Due to the early morning hours I just put the binaries on my
web server and let you do the testing :-)...
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: XNeXT for 2.X?
Date: 15 May 1998 12:09:04 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Is there any version of XNeXT which would run on 2.X? I found on
ftp.gnu.org XNeXT 0.9.2, but a note says it only runs on 1.X?
Where can I find a later but not too recent version?
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newton Connectivity!
Message-ID: <1998051513075200.JAA14090@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 15 May 1998 13:07:48 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6jft62$ose@nnrp3.farm.idt.net>
There are two programs for this, NewtL, but the main page for this has
disappeared, so you'll have to try the standard Linux archive sites. bummer.
There's also David Young's Newton.app available from www.ace.net
Hope this helps!
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: aa158@valleynet.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:20:38 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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See
http://www.macintouch.com/m10imaging.html
Richard
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From: nurban@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 15 May 1998 11:40:29 -0400
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In article <6jhivm$22a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, aa158@valleynet.on.ca wrote:
> See
> http://www.macintouch.com/m10imaging.html
This is bad. :( What good is having the pretense of a network-aware
GUI-based OS without being able to run apps remotely??
I wonder how technically difficult it would be for them to somehow add
this later..
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:49:44 -0400
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On Fri, 15 May 1998, Henry McGilton wrote:
> some clever way to obtain the effect. As for me, I'm not
> concerned that the lack of NXHosting will drive Apple out
> of business.
But it could drive me out of Rhapsody / MacOS X.
Rudy
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From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
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Subject: Re: DropPDF - any need?
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:50:40 -0400
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On 15 May 1998, Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> Ok, a first version of DropPDF (beta m68k and Intel,both need some more
> testing) is downloadable from
>
> http://www.this.net/~frank/download.html
>
We appreciate it, Frank.
Thanks, Rudy.
From: nurban@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 15 May 1998 13:52:53 -0400
Organization: Data Systems Consulting, Inc.
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In article <355C6969.6907242B@trilithon.com>, Henry McGilton <henry@trilithon.com> wrote:
> Nathan Urban wrote:
> * This is bad. :( What good is having the pretense
> * of a network-aware GUI-based OS without being able
> * to run apps remotely??
> Nathan, the lack of NXHosting may be "bad" from a specialised
> viewpoint of some developers and some specialised applications
> such as Mathematica et al.
Not at all. There are still plenty of advantages to be able to run an
application remotely!
> But I don't believe it's "bad"
> in the broader picture of the PC consumer market. Ninety nine
> percent of Mac and PC users wouldn't knonw remote hosting if
> it bit them on the leg, wouldn't understand it if you explained
> it to them, and wouldn't know what to do with it even then.
I disagree. Businesses and academia especially are becoming increasingly
aware of network-centric computing.
> From the viewpoint of hardware and software sales, NXHosting
> won't have any effect.
Yes, it's not a deciding factor given all the other
advantages/disadvantages of the OS, especially because Windows doesn't
have it either, but it's still a major loss.
> As for me, I'm not
> concerned that the lack of NXHosting will drive Apple out
> of business.
Well, I'm not either since it obviously hasn't driven Microsoft out of
business, but that doesn't mean that its lack isn't a very bad thing!
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 15 May 1998 17:19:34 GMT
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In <355C6969.6907242B@trilithon.com> Henry McGilton wrote:
> Nathan Urban wrote:
>
> * This is bad. :( What good is having the pretense
> * of a network-aware GUI-based OS without being able
> * to run apps remotely??
>
> Nathan, the lack of NXHosting may be "bad" from a specialised
> viewpoint of some developers and some specialised applications
> such as Mathematica et al. But I don't believe it's "bad"
> in the broader picture of the PC consumer market. Ninety nine
> percent of Mac and PC users wouldn't knonw remote hosting if
> it bit them on the leg, wouldn't understand it if you explained
> it to them, and wouldn't know what to do with it even then.
>
> From the viewpoint of hardware and software sales, NXHosting
> won't have any effect. Bit of a drag for those who *really*
> need the feature. I'm sure that somebody will come up with
> some clever way to obtain the effect. As for me, I'm not
> concerned that the lack of NXHosting will drive Apple out
> of business.
>
I think you're wrong about it not costing them anything.
Within the sales of the single box home user market, sure it wont cost Apple
any sales. But that's not their only market. They sell to educational
markets, which use networks a lot. They want to sell more to businesses,
which also use networks alot.
One very useful thing about being able to remotely run apps is that you can
sink lots of money into a single group of fast compute servers which then
display back to cheaper workstations. In a sense, this is the concept of the
Xterminal, the NC, and environments like what the nMac sounds like it will be
targetet at.
For example, a 486/100 can run Openstep for Mach just fine.. it's a little
slow for a lot of things, but it can run it. If you have a gaggle of
486/100's, and Rhapsody will run on a 486 or low end Pentium, why not keep
those boxes and run Rhapsody on them? Then, once they're available with
Rhapsody on them, buy a big multiprocessing
PPC box as your CPU farm. You run applications on the big box, and your
workspace manager and display work all go on the low end box.
And it doesn't necessarly have to be just a solution for cheap end machine
networks. Any network in which there is a high performance central system
that has the yellow box on it, and upon which you must do some of your work,
can take advantage of this. If you can't remotely display your work, then
you would have to do all of your work via the shell.... is THAT what Apple
wants to promote!? "Buy Rhapsody so you can do small stuff in an advanced
GUI environment, and do real work via a CLI!" -- somehow that strikes me as
decidedly un-Macintosh (though, until now, that is ofcourse how you've HAD to
do things if your end machine was a Mac).
Basically, any customer who is buying Rhapsody/MacOSX for a network is going
to see this datum and lower their percieved value of the platform by a notch.
And that _WILL_ cost them sales. Sure, it's hard to do it via Win32.. but
Apple isn't the monopoly here.. MS can get away with it becuase they're the
dominant provider. Apple has to be better than MS at every turn, or they'll
loose sales to MS solutions. Cutting a feature like this is just one more of
those things that removes an incentive to "think differently", and play it
safe by buying what everyone else buys.
The only way getting rid of NXHosting makes sense is if they're replacing it
with a better, more transparent, mechanism of opening an application on a
remote host and/or displaying an application remotely. But, like the Newton,
I bet they haven't announced a replacement before killing the current
mechanism.
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sybase Limited Server on 3.3
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 19:27:27 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
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In <6jeeu8$3d2$1@diana.bcn.ibernet.es> Josep Egea i Sanchez wrote:
> In <6jdpn4$e3r@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if Sybase Limited Server
> > will run under NeXTSTEP 3.3? The documentation
> > says it was built for 2.0.
>
> It does for me. It also runs on OPENSTEP 4.2, though I haven't been able to
> use the companion administration app.
You might try the following patch (using beav or binpatch):
cmp -l Administrator.orig Administrator
2651 141 116
2652 377 161
2653 5 116
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2655 16 116
2656 42 161
From: Henry McGilton <henry@trilithon.com>
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Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:12:25 -0700
Organization: Trilithon Research and Trading
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Nathan Urban wrote:
* This is bad. :( What good is having the pretense
* of a network-aware GUI-based OS without being able
* to run apps remotely??
Nathan, the lack of NXHosting may be "bad" from a specialised
viewpoint of some developers and some specialised applications
such as Mathematica et al. But I don't believe it's "bad"
in the broader picture of the PC consumer market. Ninety nine
percent of Mac and PC users wouldn't knonw remote hosting if
it bit them on the leg, wouldn't understand it if you explained
it to them, and wouldn't know what to do with it even then.
From the viewpoint of hardware and software sales, NXHosting
won't have any effect. Bit of a drag for those who *really*
need the feature. I'm sure that somebody will come up with
some clever way to obtain the effect. As for me, I'm not
concerned that the lack of NXHosting will drive Apple out
of business.
........ Henry
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From: "FJ van Wingerde" <fj@medg.lcs.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 15 May 98 14:08:56 +0000
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On Fri, May 15, 1998 4:12 PM, Henry McGilton <mailto:henry@trilithon.com>
wrote:
>Nathan, the lack of NXHosting may be "bad" from a specialised
>viewpoint of some developers and some specialised applications
>such as Mathematica et al. But I don't believe it's "bad"
>in the broader picture of the PC consumer market. Ninety nine
>percent of Mac and PC users wouldn't knonw remote hosting if
>it bit them on the leg, wouldn't understand it if you explained
>it to them, and wouldn't know what to do with it even then.
I don't think that the ignorance of the past is a compelling
justification to cripple the future.
And although I have no hard data, I could imagine that for
certain large scale accounts, accounts that are managed by
a technically savvy committee inside a business, accounts
that would benefit inmensly from a robust networked OS,
NXHosting would make a lot of sense.
As a technically savvy user, I do feel this is a
loss, even knowing the security probs that NXHosting has.
Anyone who has enjoyed the mix'n'match'n'run capabilities
of X11, where big binaries could be run on big machines
while outputting to the desktop, even from another
continent, would be dismayed at seeing NXHosting go.
FJ!!
From: jklein@ivy.hampshire.edu (jonathan klein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
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Henry McGilton (henry@trilithon.com) wrote:
: Nathan Urban wrote:
: * This is bad. :( What good is having the pretense
: * of a network-aware GUI-based OS without being able
: * to run apps remotely??
: Nathan, the lack of NXHosting may be "bad" from a specialised
: viewpoint of some developers and some specialised applications
: such as Mathematica et al. But I don't believe it's "bad"
: in the broader picture of the PC consumer market. Ninety nine
: percent of Mac and PC users wouldn't knonw remote hosting if
: it bit them on the leg, wouldn't understand it if you explained
: it to them, and wouldn't know what to do with it even then.
Think of the schools and businesses with hundreds or thousands of
computers and the two or three administrators who have to manage
all the machines.
When the time comes to make a proposal to buy new machines, there would
be a *really* strong argument in favor of machines that can be fully
managed remotely and can run all of the applications that normal users
need to run.
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Subject: Re: uncompressing .compressed files
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> So how do I uncompress .compressed files if I don't have Next
> installed yet?
.compressed files are just .tar.Z files;. rename them and use tar as usual
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From: tsui@cs.indiana.edu (Yufeng Tsui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 15 May 1998 14:37:08 -0500
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In article <355c988e.0@192.33.12.30>,
jonathan klein <jklein@ivy.hampshire.edu> wrote:
>Henry McGilton (henry@trilithon.com) wrote:
>: Nathan Urban wrote:
>
>: * This is bad. :( What good is having the pretense
>: * of a network-aware GUI-based OS without being able
>: * to run apps remotely??
>
>: Nathan, the lack of NXHosting may be "bad" from a specialised
>: viewpoint of some developers and some specialised applications
>: such as Mathematica et al. But I don't believe it's "bad"
>: in the broader picture of the PC consumer market. Ninety nine
>: percent of Mac and PC users wouldn't knonw remote hosting if
>: it bit them on the leg, wouldn't understand it if you explained
>: it to them, and wouldn't know what to do with it even then.
>
>Think of the schools and businesses with hundreds or thousands of
>computers and the two or three administrators who have to manage
>all the machines.
>
>When the time comes to make a proposal to buy new machines, there would
>be a *really* strong argument in favor of machines that can be fully
>managed remotely and can run all of the applications that normal users
>need to run.
>
Killing NXHosting is, IMHO, a bad thing. You no longer get it for free.
Maybe someone can write anapplication to do this, like screencast or
PC Anywhere. And then you can manage all your stuff remotely. Maybe
someone third party has already started this???
--yufeng
From: Brian Vito <bvito@tiac.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Installing PPP on OS 4.2 Mach...
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:06:40 -0400
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I just bought a copy of OPENSTEP/Mach 4.2 and thought that it was
supposed to come with PPP. I can't seem to fing PPP anywhere on the HD
or on the CD. How do I install PPP (and TCP/IP)? Also, where's
NeXTMail? Thanks so much.
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Subject: Help: OS4.2 Boot/Driver Floppies
From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com>
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
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Date: 15 May 98 20:00:21 GMT
I've seemingly lost my OPENSTEP 4.2 for Intel Boot and Driver floppies and
need to do a re-install. Is there some place where I can get an image of
them and recreate them on some blanks? Would anyone be willing to make
images and email them to me? Thanks for any help, much appreciated.
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com>
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
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Date: 15 May 98 20:05:22 GMT
John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> wrote:
> I've seemingly lost my OPENSTEP 4.2 for Intel Boot and Driver
> floppies and need to do a re-install. Is there some place where
> I can get an image of them and recreate them on some blanks?
> Would anyone be willing to make images and email them to me?
> Thanks for any help, much appreciated.
Nevermind, answering my own question. You can find all the disk
image information you need at nextanswers. Specifically at:
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1921.htmld/1921.html#top-
4.2installfloppyimage
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 15 May 1998 21:03:07 GMT
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In <6ji5h4$s4k@sheepskin.cs.indiana.edu> Yufeng Tsui wrote:
> Killing NXHosting is, IMHO, a bad thing. You no longer get it for free.
> Maybe someone can write anapplication to do this, like screencast or
> PC Anywhere. And then you can manage all your stuff remotely. Maybe
> someone third party has already started this???
VNC (see http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc ) could be ported if enough interest is
there.
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From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman)
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Subject: Re: uncompressing .compressed files
Date: 15 May 1998 21:52:55 GMT
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spagiola@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Colin Doncaster <colind@calibre-dd.com> wrote:
> > So how do I uncompress .compressed files if I don't have Next
> > installed yet?
>
> .compressed files are just .tar.Z files;. rename them and use tar as usual
AAaaauuuuugggggghhhhh!!!!!!
Use gnutar NOT tar!
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From: "Michael J. Peck" <mjpeck@nstar.net>
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Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:47:25 -0500
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Henry McGilton wrote:
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> From the viewpoint of hardware and software sales, NXHosting
> won't have any effect. Bit of a drag for those who *really*
> need the feature. I'm sure that somebody will come up with
> some clever way to obtain the effect. As for me, I'm not
> concerned that the lack of NXHosting will drive Apple out
> of business.
I have to disagree with this, Henry. I see uses for remotability every
day, both at home and at work. I develop my current application for work
on an HP-UX workstation, with all of its associated libraries, data
files, and other install accessories. When I need to demo the app for my
boss or other management, I can remotely display it on any Windows PC or
UNIX workstation in the building very easily.
I also have to take my turn at administering test servers every month,
and if I had to sit in the freezing-cold server room the whole time I
would rapidly go mixed-nuts. It's a real joy to be able to work from my
desktop, alongside my normal work, without setting foot outside my
office, and run all of the graphical apps I need to use for
administration purposes.
The downfall of this is that the X protocol is *heavy* and slow. I was
told by several people here many moons ago that NXHosting is capable of
usable and responsive remoting over a 2B+D ISDN line. That is something
the X protocol cannot do, and if NXHosting really is dead, I think it's
a huge loss for Rhapsody.
I can't really blame management, though; I'm sure the recent changes to
imaging made it impossible (difficult) to do otherwise.
MJP
From: "Michael J. Peck" <mjpeck@nstar.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
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Frank M. Siegert wrote:
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> VNC (see http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc ) could be ported if enough interest is
> there.
I don't really think VNC is a viable solution. VNC simply takes a
picture of the current framebuffer and sends it over the wire with your
choice of compression. Unlike a real remotability protocol, e.g. X, it's
inefficient and barely-usable over anything less than 10Mbps Ethernet.
MJP
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
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In <355CC6E3.F30A0812@nstar.net> "Michael J. Peck" wrote:
> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > VNC (see http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc ) could be ported if enough interest is
> > there.
>
> I don't really think VNC is a viable solution. VNC simply takes a
> picture of the current framebuffer and sends it over the wire with your
> choice of compression. Unlike a real remotability protocol, e.g. X, it's
> inefficient and barely-usable over anything less than 10Mbps Ethernet.
True, but NXHost'ing over a slow line can be quite challenging too, beside
VNC is only slow for Windows because of the braindead way it draws to the
framebuffer. VNC server on X11 and client on X11 or Windows does not feel
sluggish (at least over a 10Mbps Ethernet :-)).
And using a hypothetically ported VNC one could provide access to a Rhapsody
(or OS/NS) box from a Windows box thus infiltrating the mindset of the enemy
:-)...
Oh, excuse me, there are no enemies left anymore, we are all good friends
now. How boring...
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Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
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In <355C6969.6907242B@trilithon.com> Henry McGilton wrote:
> Nathan Urban wrote:
>
> * This is bad. :( What good is having the pretense
> * of a network-aware GUI-based OS without being able
> * to run apps remotely??
>
> Nathan, the lack of NXHosting may be "bad" from a specialised
> viewpoint of some developers and some specialised applications
> such as Mathematica et al. But I don't believe it's "bad"
> in the broader picture of the PC consumer market. Ninety nine
> percent of Mac and PC users wouldn't knonw remote hosting if
> it bit them on the leg, wouldn't understand it if you explained
> it to them, and wouldn't know what to do with it even then.
>
> From the viewpoint of hardware and software sales, NXHosting
> won't have any effect. Bit of a drag for those who *really*
> need the feature. I'm sure that somebody will come up with
> some clever way to obtain the effect. As for me, I'm not
> concerned that the lack of NXHosting will drive Apple out
> of business.
I kept quiet reading all this rumours about Mac OS X wether it
will be the death of YB and so on. As a summary, I had the
impression, that they are doing their job not this bad; keeping
the advantages of YB and Rhapsody and giving old Mac OS Users and
Developers a way to keep their face (and their products).
But there are two points, that make me nervous about the future of
Rhapsody. The information about killing the possibility to remote
display applications is the hardest news at all. I hope, it is
only a rumor.
I'm the administrator of a 200 machines OPENSTEP network and I have
to fight hard against all windows guys. The best argument against
it always was the argument of support cost. One big point of this
is the possibility to f.e. become a different user on a different
machine and remote display, what is going on on his side without
walking dozens of kilometers around all the time (like $MS admins
do).
Apple always argued with TCO (Total Cost of Ownership). They should
not shoot theirselves into their knees. Throwing out everything, we
can do better than $MS and trying to make the same bullshit "better"
or "MAC-like" is the worst thing they can do.
Apple beware: Remote displaying is one of the major arguments for
big network installations, educational or commercial.
If the background of this plan is giving up DPS - this would be bad
enough - you have to find another (good) way to do something like
NXHosting.
The second point is the future of platform independance. All the
week there was no statement about Rhapsody for Intel or Mac OS X
for Intel. I have only PCs and I am not very glad with them, but
it is absolutely not realistic, that ANY company will throw out
all PCs at once and replace them with MACs.
If this is Apples strategy, they will have many customers less
including us.
> ........ Henry
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From: Matthew Cromer <matthew_cromer@iname.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 16 May 1998 02:57:18 GMT
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In article <355CC6E3.F30A0812@nstar.net> Michael J. Peck,
mjpeck@nstar.net writes:
>I don't really think VNC is a viable solution. VNC simply takes a
>picture of the current framebuffer and sends it over the wire with your
>choice of compression. Unlike a real remotability protocol, e.g. X, it's
>inefficient and barely-usable over anything less than 10Mbps Ethernet.
>
>MJP
Timbuktu software works fine even over a 28.8 connection.
The problem is, NXHosting lets you host multiple client sessions off of a
single computer.
Nothing like that with Timbuktu or PCAnywhere.
Dammit, this needs to be put back into place ASAP.
Matthew Cromer
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Just curious:
How are chances for third parties to reintroduce NXHosting, with the new
display system, technically?
Is there a real restraint, or can it just be added to the WindowServer?
(I never went into the intricacies, just knew it was there and roughly what
it was about.)
Christian Benesch
Matthew Cromer wrote:
> In article <355CC6E3.F30A0812@nstar.net> Michael J. Peck,
> mjpeck@nstar.net writes:
> >I don't really think VNC is a viable solution. VNC simply takes a
> >picture of the current framebuffer and sends it over the wire with your
> >choice of compression. Unlike a real remotability protocol, e.g. X, it's
> >inefficient and barely-usable over anything less than 10Mbps Ethernet.
> >
> >MJP
>
> Timbuktu software works fine even over a 28.8 connection.
>
> The problem is, NXHosting lets you host multiple client sessions off of a
> single computer.
> Nothing like that with Timbuktu or PCAnywhere.
>
> Dammit, this needs to be put back into place ASAP.
>
> Matthew Cromer
From: Kristofer Jon Magnusson <kris@xmission.xmission.com>
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Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
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In comp.sys.next.advocacy Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.NO_SPAM.net> wrote:
: True, but NXHost'ing over a slow line can be quite challenging too
FYI, I NXHost apps on my remote web server over a 128Kb ISDN line. It
works just fine--it's only a little slow.
..........kris
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In comp.sys.next.advocacy Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.NO_SPAM.net> wrote:
: VNC (see http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc ) could be ported if enough interest is
: there.
Or we could write a JavaBean that uses RMI to send display data over the
wire. You could run a remote UI in Interface Builder in test mode. =)
..............kris
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In <355C6969.6907242B@trilithon.com> Henry McGilton wrote:
> Nathan Urban wrote:
>
> * This is bad. :( What good is having the pretense
> * of a network-aware GUI-based OS without being able
> * to run apps remotely??
>
> Nathan, the lack of NXHosting may be "bad" from a specialised
> viewpoint of some developers and some specialised applications
> such as Mathematica et al. But I don't believe it's "bad"
> in the broader picture of the PC consumer market. Ninety nine
> percent of Mac and PC users wouldn't knonw remote hosting if
> it bit them on the leg, wouldn't understand it if you explained
> it to them, and wouldn't know what to do with it even then.
>
> From the viewpoint of hardware and software sales, NXHosting
> won't have any effect. Bit of a drag for those who *really*
> need the feature. I'm sure that somebody will come up with
> some clever way to obtain the effect. As for me, I'm not
> concerned that the lack of NXHosting will drive Apple out
> of business.
>
>
Quite frankly as an Investor and ex-Developer for NeXT, NXHosting is Apple's
strategic weapon in the Java networked client game, without which Apple is
stuck without market differentiation. It certainly will drive Apple further
away from the mainstream of networked sales. A significant portion of Apple's
promised future is Java centric. Without a better NxHost, they are working
into tighter and tighter niches.
The street seems to agree with me as Apple's 52 week high on Monday has
retreated below 30 and will probably settle around 27.50 shortly.
-r
BTW: I agree with each and everyone of your points and hope that this is one
of their technologies they are able to repackage, losing all its GEEK
appeal...
From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman)
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Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 16 May 1998 06:28:24 GMT
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Kristofer Jon Magnusson <kris@xmission.xmission.com> wrote:
> In comp.sys.next.advocacy Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.NO_SPAM.net> wrote:
>
> : True, but NXHost'ing over a slow line can be quite challenging too
>
> FYI, I NXHost apps on my remote web server over a 128Kb ISDN line. It
> works just fine--it's only a little slow.
Be honest here Kris: the machine you're hosting from is a 25MHz slab with
Apache beating it to death (www.planetary.net is reasonably popular), so it's
just as likely as not that the machine is what is slow, and not NXHosting.
:-)
What's cool is that you can NXHost from that slab to a Win NT box...
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From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu>
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Has anyone compiled vim (the "improved" vi editor) for Intel NS3.3?
Thanks.
Robert
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Here is their explanation of how it is supposed to work:
*snip*
We will attempt to explain without going into technical details. What
this program does is add a mini TSR program into a protected memory area and
this RESIDENT program acts as a CPU. It will analyse the program being run
and takes over the work, does its own calculations, compresses the program
in memory, changes certain commands, all in realtime! All this frees up your
regular CPU. So your regular CPU does its chores and the EMULATED CPU does
its work too. It's like having a math co-processor, but in this case it's a
CPU co-processor.
*snip*
Their is just one downside to this: Who runs the EMULATED CPU if not the
regular cpu??????
They even claim a MathCoprocessor running alongside.
(See below)
*snip*
The program also features a MATH COPROCESSOR emulator. It is as fast as the
real math chip itself. So with all these utilities in memory (TSR) it works
to free your CPU, it also changes your BIOS, setup and memory contents to
configure it so other programs can recognize it.
*snip*
Very funny indeed!
Christian Benesch
(Seriously for once: Someone should report this)
Jeff Brand wrote:
> Ken wrote:
>
> > If so, you might want to check out this auction for ROCKET BOOST.
> > ROCKET BOOST is a software program that can actually increase your cpu
> > speed by 70% or more. The URL is:
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=14038999
> >
> > It won't hurt to look.
> >
> > Ken
>
> Is it really possible? I very much doubt it.
>
> Look at the above web site for a laugh, but I think the logic behind it is
>
> ridiculous.
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick)
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Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 16 May 1998 12:23:11 -0400
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In article <355c988e.0@192.33.12.30>,
jonathan klein <jklein@ivy.hampshire.edu> wrote:
>Think of the schools and businesses with hundreds or thousands of
>computers and the two or three administrators who have to manage
>all the machines.
>
>When the time comes to make a proposal to buy new machines, there would
>be a *really* strong argument in favor of machines that can be fully
>managed remotely and can run all of the applications that normal users
>need to run.
Don't get me wrong, I think that NSHosting will be sorely missed, but
seriously remote administration will not be a direct casualty of this.
After all, we're talking about Unix here.
The only thing you lose here is the ability to have a native App
whose entire task runs on a remote machine and whose entire display
is on another.
You have a herd of boxen on your network, and you want to change
the configuration of one of them (or more likely, of all boxes in
parallel). You use a GUI tool on one host, which uses kerberos
authentication to use any combination of rsh, rcmd, rpc, EOF, rcp,
etc. to blast the changes out any damn you please.
You can even use libraries ala PVM to run massively parallel apps
distributed on a number of boxes at once.
Running a monolithic process remotely and displaying locally is
in my opinion a poor way of writing administrative apps. It is
a wonderful way of distributing processing power where it is wanted
for individual application users, and I think it sucks that this
will be going away.
I just disagree with your example. Systems Administration apps
should be designed in such a way that the same task can be run
either remotely to a single destination or remotely to multiple hosts
in paralell. NSHosting would not make such designs any easier.
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From: Henry McGilton <henry@trilithon.com>
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Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
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Michael J. Peck wrote:
* Henry McGilton wrote:
* * From the viewpoint of hardware and software
* * sales, NXHosting won't have any effect. Bit
* * of a drag for those who *really* need the feature.
* * I'm sure that somebody will come up with
* * some clever way to obtain the effect. As for me,
* * I'm not concerned that the lack of NXHosting will
* * drive Apple out of business.
* I have to disagree with this, Henry. I see uses for
* remotability every day, both at home and at work.
* I develop my current application for work on an HP-UX
* workstation, with all of its associated libraries, data
* files, and other install accessories. When I need to
* demo the app for my boss or other management, I can
* remotely display it on any Windows PC or
* UNIX workstation in the building very easily.
<<<< Rest or well reasoned article snipped >>>>
Well, I admit that after seeing your posting and several
others on the subject, there appears to be a greater need
and utility for remote hosting than I had imagined. I didn't
look at a big enough picture. And happy to relate, Mike
Paquette already addressed some of the concerns in another
posting.
So, let's lobby for remote hosting. By the way, I had made
a suggestion that possibly distributed objects could be used
to obtain a kind of limited remote hosting, where one app vends
a view across the wire to another app that can lock focus on
the remote view and draw into it --- even assuming that the new
lightweight toolkit has the notion of lock focus [Mike?].
I haven't tried this (yet) to see if it would work --- I could
flange up a couple of simple apps in an hour or so and test it
even on my one-host network; but if it does, it could provide
a stop-gap capability while we're waiting for the real thing.
........ Henry
=============================================================
Henry McGilton | Trilithon Software, and,
Boulevardier, Java Composer | Pacific Research and Trading
-----------------------------+-------------------------------
mailto:henry@trilithon.com | http://www.trilithon.com
=============================================================
From: "Edwin" <wja-veen@dds.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.software.licensing,comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.amiga.software,comp.sys.amiga.software.pirate,comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.next.software,cs.software,cu.cs.systems+so
Subject: !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 22:51:43 +0200
Organization: A2000 Kabeltelevisie & Telecommunicatie
Message-ID: <6jku9n$a9$1@newton.a2000.nl>
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From: Ari <ari@loa.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cdrom error with OS 4.2
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 03:15:16 -0400
Organization: Providence College [The BIG East]
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I'm trying to install OS 4.2 User on a system that I've successfully
installed it on before. When I tried to install it again (after a full
format) I get the following error at the terminal screen:
<after I enter a number for the hard drive I want to install onto>
/private/etc/rc.cdrom: 33 memory fault
/private/etc/rc.cdrom: 34 memory fault
/private/etc/rc.cdrom: test: argument expected
cd-rom boot procedure complete
<shut down sequence>
Like I said, I've installed it successfully before. Since it seems like
a cd-rom error, I tried using an atapi cd instead of the scsi (dpt 2xx4)
cd, and get the same error.
any help would be be appreciated, thanks in advance.
ari
ari@loa.com
From: "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OPENSTEP CD-ROM
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 16:50:30 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6jl1vr$16co$1@news.missouri.edu>
Dear NeXT owners,
are there any one able to open OPENSTEP CD-ROMs(OPENSTEP usr/dev and
EOF) on the PC (win95 or NT)? I did try but there is no file in CD-ROM. I
haven't got my CD-ROM drive for NeXT yet. So, I don't know. Do I need to
have any special trick to see what are in the CD?
I'm looking forward to see your email. Thank you very much.
--
Sarawoot Chittratanawat
c641625@showme.missouri.edu
From: "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OPENSTEP CD-ROM
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 16:50:30 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6jl2aa$1kou$1@news.missouri.edu>
Dear NeXT owners,
are there any one able to open OPENSTEP CD-ROMs(OPENSTEP usr/dev and
EOF) on the PC (win95 or NT)? I did try but there is no file in CD-ROM. I
haven't got my CD-ROM drive for NeXT yet. So, I don't know. Do I need to
have any special trick to see what are in the CD?
I'm looking forward to see your email. Thank you very much.
--
Sarawoot Chittratanawat
c641625@showme.missouri.edu
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where is OlafAM ? (Answering machine app works with ZyXel)
Date: 16 May 1998 16:20:17 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6jl6vh$hs8@slip.net>
References: <6j0ivk$986$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <Esqvup.Hq@orest.escape.de>
Hi Olaf,
I recently purchased a Zyxel U-1496 modem which came
without a power supply. Assuming that I wil be
able purchase one I'd like purchase a license to
OlafAM.
Regarding my modem, there are two buttons on the
front but only the button with ANS and ORG clicks
into pressed-in and pressed-out states. Should the
data/voice button do the same thing?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <1562894772821@digifix.com>
Date: 17 May 1998 03:49:39 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <10466895377625@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: "Wernitznig Christian von der Hermsberger Datenautobahn" <office@wernitznig.at>
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.amiga.software,comp.sys.amiga.software.pirate,comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.next.software,cs.software,cu.cs.systems+software
Subject: Priavtverkauf!!! Wichtige Message !!!
Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 13:09:24 +0200
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From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 17 May 1998 15:31:17 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Message-ID: <6jmvs5$1cc$59@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <6jhivm$22a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <355CC6E3.F30A0812@nstar.net>
<6jij29$dq6$5@news.seicom.net> <Et0nDE.Ixo@abulafia.in-berlin.de>
<6jivae$1ju$1@camel19.mindspring.com> <355D25A7.F4617E84@unet.univie.ac.at>
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY,COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
(please don't crosspost to misc)
In <355D25A7.F4617E84@unet.univie.ac.at> Christian Benesch wrote:
> Just curious:
> How are chances for third parties to reintroduce NXHosting, with the new
> display system, technically?
>
Very good: Jordan Dea-Mattson (Apple) stated explicitly that hooks to allow
this would be put in place.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
From: "Michelle L. Buck" <buck.erik@mcleod.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:29:42 -0500
Organization: McleodUSA - http://www.mcleodusa.net
Message-ID: <6jn6tv$138a1@odie.mcleod.net>
References: <6jhivm$22a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <355CC6E3.F30A0812@nstar.net> <6jij29$dq6$5@news.seicom.net> <Et0nDE.Ixo@abulafia.in-berlin.de> <6jivae$1ju$1@camel19.mindspring.com>
The reason that NSHosting will be gone in MacOS X is very simple. In order
to bring MacOS apps forward, Quickdraw MUST be preserved with very few
changes. Quickdraw is an immediate mode API that will never be network
hostable. On the other hand, the DPS style client server code (much of
which is encapsulated in the AppKit anyway) can easily be made "immediate"
without any or much change.
Apple wanted to keep the Window Server / Backing Store consistent between
Quickdraw and AppKit. The new window server will only be responsible for
backing store. There will be no more rendering or RIPing in the server.
This means that Toolbox APPs and Quickdraw will gain "Buffered" and
"Retained" window support and YellowBox will lose remote display. That is
the trade off. That is the compromise.
From: Steven W. Schuldt <sschuldt@mediaone.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 17 May 1998 18:51:02 GMT
Organization: MediaOne -=- Northeast Region
Message-ID: <6jnbim$icc$1@ndnws01.ne.highway1.com>
References: <od871.624$Fi2.704485@news.rdc1.sdca.home.com>
In article <od871.624$Fi2.704485@news.rdc1.sdca.home.com> rriley@yahoo.com
(Rex Riley) writes:
> Quite frankly as an Investor and ex-Developer for NeXT, NXHosting is Apple's
> strategic weapon in the Java networked client game, without which Apple is
> stuck without market differentiation. It certainly will drive Apple further
> away from the mainstream of networked sales. A significant portion of
Apple's
> promised future is Java centric. Without a better NxHost, they are working
> into tighter and tighter niches.
>
> The street seems to agree with me as Apple's 52 week high on Monday has
> retreated below 30 and will probably settle around 27.50 shortly.
>
Look out below! Oh dear, someone is actually thinking. Sure they laughed and
laughed in Cupertino, their Gilometers pegging, as I kept bringing up the Tiny
Box NC. "What a rube, what a fool!". OK fellas, you win, you're right, I am
a total chowderhead. Hey, why not remove remote display entirely? Go ahead,
that'll learn me! Yeah, yeah, take it out! We want even more megacosmic
versions of PhotoShop (mmm mmm can't get enough), more $5,000 computers, more
bloated laptop mainframes. Make sure remote terminal NCs are a 'third party
opportunity'. Oooops, unfortunately for you that third party is going to be
Sun or Microsoft or some Asian vendor and it won't have a thing to do with
MacOS X.
In the cold light of day Apple will realize that in the larger scheme of
modern network computing, which is hurtling forward at the speed of light
squared, Carbon doesn't change anything for the better. In fact, it all but
deals Apple out of the game.
Hey, you makes your bed and you sleeps in it.
Pleasant dreams...
Steve
Boston '98 +On +On
Carbon: What Remains After You Have Been Burned
From: me@opie.mines.edu (David M. Wood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CGM view/convert app?
Date: 17 May 1998 19:00:22 GMT
Organization: Nunh-unh.
Message-ID: <6jnc46$hea$1@herald.Mines.EDU>
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Keywords: CGM, EPS, NeXT
Can anyone point me to a non-commercial NeXT app which can read CGM files
(and mebbe even write EPS)?
Thanks!
--
David M. Wood
Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401
Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840
e-mail: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
From: jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 17 May 1998 20:00:27 GMT
Organization: Idiom Communications
Message-ID: <6jnfkr$qjg$3@news.idiom.com>
References: <6jhivm$22a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6jhnld$a3v$1@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us>
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Cc: jklein@ivy.hampshire.edu
jonathan klein may or may not have said:
[...]
-> Think of the schools and businesses with hundreds or thousands of
-> computers and the two or three administrators who have to manage
-> all the machines.
Right now, I can use Netinfo Manager to get at any machine on a network of
OpenStep hosts, and I don't have to use NSHost to do it. Remote
administration doesn't depend on display redirection.
-> When the time comes to make a proposal to buy new machines, there would
-> be a *really* strong argument in favor of machines that can be fully
-> managed remotely and can run all of the applications that normal users
-> need to run.
Then MacOS X still fits the bill.
-jcr
From: "J. Penning" <J_Penning@public.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Simple Openstep questions
Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 22:04:18 +0200
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
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Hi folks,
I want to buy Openstep developer for Intel (academic),
but have questions.
Do you recommend mach or NT?
Do Nextstep 3.3 apps run (esp. Lighthouse Diagram/Openwrite)?
The FAQ says:
--
Applications written for OPENSTEP are sourcecode compatible to all
other architectures running OPENSTEP, although fat binaries are
only available under OPENSTEP for Mach (because the binary format
is depending on the operating system).
--
So I wonder:
If using mach, can I compile for NT?
Or must I recompile using Openstep developer for NT?
And vice versa?
Finally: Is it sold by apple dealers? If not, why not?
Thanks, Joerg.
--
email j_penning@public.uni-hamburg.de
From: nurban@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Simple Openstep questions
Date: 17 May 1998 22:46:46 -0400
Organization: Data Systems Consulting, Inc.
Message-ID: <6jo7em$qef$1@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us>
References: <355F42C2.4A9D@public.uni-hamburg.de>
In article <355F42C2.4A9D@public.uni-hamburg.de>, J_Penning@public.uni-hamburg.de wrote:
> I want to buy Openstep developer for Intel (academic),
> but have questions.
> Do you recommend mach or NT?
Mach, unless you need Windows apps or SMP.
> Do Nextstep 3.3 apps run (esp. Lighthouse Diagram/Openwrite)?
On Mach. Not on Windows.
> If using mach, can I compile for NT?
No.
> Or must I recompile using Openstep developer for NT?
Yes.
> And vice versa?
No.
> Finally: Is it sold by apple dealers? If not, why not?
I don't know who sells it now.
From: ternal@twilight.rt66.com (Eternity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sound input on Cube problems.
Date: 18 May 1998 07:22:55 GMT
Organization: Rt66.COM, New Mexico's #1 ISP
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6jonkf$6bv$1@news.rt66.com>
Well, it's been a long time since I've sat behind a black system. Now, I
finally was able to purchase an 040 cube with NS 3.3, and I'm catching up
again.
Anyway, I've run into what I think may be a problem. In Mail.app, I noticed
that I could record sound as part of a message. Very cool. I plugged a mic in
and had at it! Unfortunately, I recorded nothing (over and over again). In
the preferences area, I tried to set the mic gain a bit higher (it was at 0)
to correct the problem. However, whenever I attempt to change the balance or
the gain there, it keeps resetting itsself to gain 0 and balance middle. This
is odd to me, because sounds seem to be _playing_ fine.
So, my question would be, am I missing something obvious, or could something
be wrong? Suggestions?
Also, I am currious about the "proper" mics to put on a cube. Does it prefer
conderser mics? (Many PC sound boards require conderser mics to be jumpered
differently.) Also, should input be with a mono or stereo plug?
Anyhow, sorry about the long description to the short problem. Thanks in
advance for any advice!
From: hoyas@hol.fr (hoyas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Will Have A NeXT Soon
Date: 18 May 1998 08:03:11 GMT
Organization: GSIT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6jopvv$n74$1@news.teaser.fr>
Keywords: NeXT, irc
Hi I will soon have a 68040 NeXT b&W and I want to connect it to the Internet so my question are :
1) Will my USR Courier connect on it without any problems ?
2)What is the best browser and where can I find it ?
3)What is the best IRC client and where can I find it too ?
4)Is there a compatibility with sources from other programs on other OS like Linux which I can compile under NeXT
Thanks for your answers :)
From: Michel Coste <nospam@micmac.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 10:42:51 GMT
Organization: MiCMAC
Sender: news@micmac.com
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This was written in
comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
(<355DD280.7FCE9175@trilithon.com>) by Henry McGilton:
> So, let's lobby for remote hosting.
Maybe Timbuctu owners already made lobbying...
mc
From: a9101322@unet.univie.ac.at ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wetpaint and Marquee Tool
Date: 18 May 1998 09:08:41 GMT
Organization: Vienna University, Austria
Message-ID: <6jotqp$2ooe$1@www.univie.ac.at>
Hi,
I just encountered the following problem.
Each time I use the circular, freehand (lasso) or magic hand marquee
tool, it results in a selected square, not in a selected circle, freehand
object or magic-wand object.
Does anyone of you know what I've done wrong? Or is WetPaint v1.7 not
capable of performing such actions, although the tools are selectable?
Guenther
From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: VNC?
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:02:56 +0200
Organization: University of Bonn, Germany
Message-ID: <1d981a2.1qnzk00xe711gN@rhrz-isdn3-p10.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
References: <6jhivm$22a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6jhnld$a3v$1@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us> <355C6969.6907242B@trilithon.com> <355c988e.0@192.33.12.30> <6ji5h4$s4k@sheepskin.cs.indiana.edu> <6jiaib$dq6$1@news.seicom.net>
Hallo Frank!
frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote on
comp.sys.next.advocacy:
> In <6ji5h4$s4k@sheepskin.cs.indiana.edu> Yufeng Tsui wrote:
> > Killing NXHosting is, IMHO, a bad thing. You no longer get it for free.
> > Maybe someone can write anapplication to do this, like screencast or
> > PC Anywhere. And then you can manage all your stuff remotely. Maybe
> > someone third party has already started this???
>
> VNC (see http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc ) could be ported if enough interest is
> there.
The Java Client should at least run on Rhapsody and they have a FreeBSD
"port" (for X).
This is certainly not as nice as HSHost, because it is like the current
BlueBox: Remote computer in a window, but it's definitly an open, cross
platform spec, which is a big win.
HSHosting does not help me when I have a Unix machine in front of me to
administer my Rhapsody Server (via the OS admin tools)
Hey, they even have a WinCE-Client along with generic Java.
I dunno, if Rhapsody/MacOS X supports/will support "virtual monitors" or
something like that, to simulate a second users GUI though.
Gruss,
Dirk
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Subject: Re: Wetpaint and Marquee Tool
References: <6jotqp$2ooe$1@www.univie.ac.at>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35601bde.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 18 May 98 11:30:38 GMT
>Each time I use the circular, freehand (lasso) or magic hand marquee
>tool, it results in a selected square, not in a selected circle, freehand
>object or magic-wand object.
AFAIK it displays as square after selection but if you drag it only will drag
the non-square selection.
Sven
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From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Which App for nice 3D Text?
Date: 18 May 1998 12:49:49 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6jpapd$pau$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Hello,
I have to make some short headline-type text for a web page and for a poster.
I want it to look eye-catching, so some 3D-effect, perhaps with a shadow and
colored with a gradient is what I imagine right now. Or something like the
title-tiff from http://hotline.pvtnet.cz/ (no affiliation). My texts should
just say "Hotline" in one file and "Support" in the other file.
My question is: which program is best to achieve this? Any recommendations?
I looked into WetPaint and it can do the gradient, but not the 3D-effects (or
am I wrong?). I also looked into 3DReality.app which can do 3D things, but
not the gradient (and I have no license, only demo mode, but that would be
fine for my two words). I didn't find a shadow in either application.
Which program do you use to create catchy headlines on WWW pages or for
posters? Please mail your suggestions to heller@lrz.de
Thanks in advance!
Helmut
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From: "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OPENSTEP 4.2 on Notebook?
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:12:36 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6jpmpd$v8g$1@news.missouri.edu>
Dear Lady and Gentleman,
I plan to get a notebook in next month. My new notebook will be planned
to run the OPENSTEP4.2.
But I haven't seen anyone talking about the OPENSTEP 4.2 on notebook at all.
Therefore, the purpose of this email is to collect the information of
the notebook model that capable to run OPENSTEP 4.2. If there are anyone
use OPENSTEP4.2 on your notebook, can you please give me the model of
notebook that you use to run OPENSTEP4.2?
Thank you veyr much in advanced.
Your Sincerely.
Sarawoot Chittratanawat
c641625@showme.missouri.edu
From: "Erik Nieves" <shadow@viasub.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sound input on Cube problems.
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 18:44:28 -0700
Organization: Keyway Internet Access 909-933-3650
Message-ID: <6jqo5v$2oo$1@madmax.keyway.net>
References: <6jonkf$6bv$1@news.rt66.com>
Ya know... I bet these things come in threes....
Eternity wrote in message <6jonkf$6bv$1@news.rt66.com>...
>Anyway, I've run into what I think may be a problem. In Mail.app, I noticed
>that I could record sound as part of a message. Very cool. I plugged a mic
in
>and had at it! Unfortunately, I recorded nothing (over and over again). In
>the preferences area, I tried to set the mic gain a bit higher (it was at
0)
>to correct the problem. However, whenever I attempt to change the balance
or
>the gain there, it keeps resetting itsself to gain 0 and balance middle.
Funny you should mention that, 'cause I've got the same problem. I thought
that maybe I had a bad soundbox or something....
I'll keep watch to see if there's a fix...
NeXT Newbie,
Erik
From: "Nicholas A. Gustilo" <ngustilo@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP 4.2 on Notebook?
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:15:57 -0700
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <6jsp31$r54$1@argentina.it.earthlink.net>
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Hi, Based on my experience installing 4.2 on PC's (I have not installed 4.2
on a notebook but I have installed 3.3 on a notebook) you need to make sure
the hardware components are supported (ie. there are drivers in the
OPENSTEP 4.2 CDROM). OPENSTEP 4.2 comes with drivers for EIDE drives,
CDROMs and floppies so hard drives, floppies and most PC CDROMs should work.
The 2 issues that I would see with a notebook are (1) the video display and
(2) power management system. You need to make sure the video system on the
notebook has a supported driver. I believe that Deepspace Technologies has
drivers for some notebooks (www.deepspacetech.com). The other problem is
the energy/battery saving features built into notebooks. If these features
cannot be disabled they could cause problems with OPENSTEP 4.2. Given
these issues I would stick with a notebook that Apple states is supported by
OPENSTEP 4.2. I hope this information helps. Nick Gustilo
----------
In article <6jpmpd$v8g$1@news.missouri.edu>, "Sarawoot Chittratanawat"
<c641625@showme.missouri.edu> wrote:
>Dear Lady and Gentleman,
> I plan to get a notebook in next month. My new notebook will be
planned
>to run the OPENSTEP4.2.
>But I haven't seen anyone talking about the OPENSTEP 4.2 on notebook at
all.
> Therefore, the purpose of this email is to collect the information of
>the notebook model that capable to run OPENSTEP 4.2. If there are anyone
>use OPENSTEP4.2 on your notebook, can you please give me the model of
>notebook that you use to run OPENSTEP4.2?
> Thank you veyr much in advanced.
>
>Your Sincerely.
>
>Sarawoot Chittratanawat
>c641625@showme.missouri.edu
>
>
From: karen@manta.ucsf.edu (Karen Vranizan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXFAX permissions
Date: 19 May 1998 18:28:18 GMT
Organization: UCSF, ITS
Message-ID: <6jsj02$1h1a@itssrv1.ucsf.edu>
Keywords: nxfax
Has anyone ever experienced intermittent mail messaging from NXFAX to
users upon receipt of new faxes? When a new fax arrives I occasionally
get mail telling me so, usually only the first and second times after
rebooting. Then silence... Annoying.
Thanks for any info. Karen
From: M Rassbach <mark@milestonerdl.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: VNC?
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:31:56 -0500
Organization: Inc.Net http://www.inc.net
Message-ID: <35608CAC.B531E7B4@milestonerdl.com>
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Dirk Theisen wrote:
> frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote on
> > In <6ji5h4$s4k@sheepskin.cs.indiana.edu> Yufeng Tsui wrote:
> > > Killing NXHosting is, IMHO, a bad thing. You no longer get it for free.
> > > Maybe someone can write anapplication to do this, like screencast or
> > > PC Anywhere. And then you can manage all your stuff remotely. Maybe
> > > someone third party has already started this???
> >
> > VNC (see http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc ) could be ported if enough interest is
> > there.
>
> The Java Client should at least run on Rhapsody and they have a FreeBSD
> "port" (for X).
> Hey, they even have a WinCE-Client along with generic Java.
And there is now a version for Palm Pilot.
Its quite the chunk of code. Wonder if anyone will ever port it to MacOS [7-x]
From: Ari <ari@loa.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: network & ppp stuff
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 02:30:47 -0400
Organization: Providence College [The BIG East]
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I have PPP connected to my ISP but haven't touched the apps in
/NeXTAdmin. For whatever reason, none of my apps (omni, etc) can use the
net connection, and I'm assuming its because of the above. For a simple
dialup PPP connection w/ a serial modem, what should I do?
thanks in advance
ari
ari@loa.com
From: "Ryan Woodsmall" <woody@cdsinet.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP CD-ROM
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:17:32 -0500
Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com
Message-ID: <6jt3ik$m7f$1@supernews.com>
References: <6jl1vr$16co$1@news.missouri.edu>
Nope, can't read them under any other OS that I've encountered,
and I've tried Linux, OpenBSD, NT, and 95. The CD's are UFS
format, so only NeXT's (and possibly Sun's?) can read them.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you can't read em under anything
other than NeXTstep/Openstep.
Ryan Woodsmall
woody@cdsinet.net
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Will Have A NeXT Soon
Date: 18 May 1998 20:34:54 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
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References: <6jopvv$n74$1@news.teaser.fr>
Keywords: NeXT, irc
In article <6jopvv$n74$1@news.teaser.fr>, hoyas <hoyas@hol.fr> wrote:
>Hi I will soon have a 68040 NeXT b&W and I want to connect it to the Internet so my question are :
>1) Will my USR Courier connect on it without any problems ?
I haven't experimented with that model though
I've used a USR 56k. If all you are looking for is
a ppp connection. If you want a dumb terminal interface
you'll have to get a software package like Cables
or MicroPhone. (BTW, you can't use 56k modems for
ppp on blackhardware.)
You will have to get a NeXT cable though. You can
purchase one at www.deepspacetech.com for about 20$.
I haven't checked recently but I don't recall USR
modems being on the list of supported modems for FAXing
with NXFaX or OlafAM. For FAXing you should read the
README file for NXFAX. I do know that NXFAX works
with SupraFAX 14.4 and 28.8 modems.
If you want to get really fancy and set your machine
as a answering machine read the README file for OlafAM.
The software will set you back about $100. But it is a
cool app. I do know that most Zyxel voice modems are supported.
>2)What is the best browser and where can I find it ?
Look for OmniWeb.app at ftp.peak.org.
Be certain to visit http://www.peak.org/~luomat. You can
ftp/navigate from there.
>3)What is the best IRC client and where can I find it too ?
Which everone you like to use is probably available at peak.
>4)Is there a compatibility with sources from other programs on other OS like Linux which I can compile under NeXT
There is some. Especially some of the old Linux stuff
which was BSD4.3. For really porting you'll have to set
up a Linux box so you can find various macro definitions
which are not in the NeXT include files.
>
>Thanks for your answers :)
>
>
Hope it helps.
Emmett
>
From: Pascal Bourguignon <pbourgui@afaa.asso.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP 4.2 on Notebook?
Date: 19 May 1998 03:31:31 GMT
Organization: Deficiente
Message-ID: <6jquej$aht$3@news.imaginet.fr>
References: <6jpmpd$v8g$1@news.missouri.edu>
"Sarawoot Chittratanawat" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu> wrote:
>Dear Lady and Gentleman,
> I plan to get a notebook in next month. My new notebook will be planned
>to run the OPENSTEP4.2.
>But I haven't seen anyone talking about the OPENSTEP 4.2 on notebook at all.
> Therefore, the purpose of this email is to collect the information of
>the notebook model that capable to run OPENSTEP 4.2. If there are anyone
>use OPENSTEP4.2 on your notebook, can you please give me the model of
>notebook that you use to run OPENSTEP4.2?
> Thank you veyr much in advanced.
>
>Your Sincerely.
>
>Sarawoot Chittratanawat
>c641625@showme.missouri.edu
>
>
I've seen OPENSTEP 4.2 run on Toshiba TECTRA 4000 something.
I've also installed it and ran on my DELL XPi90ST (not sold anymore).
(I reverted to NEXTSTEP 3.3 because I'm having a development in progress in
3.3).
So I guess that it would be quite easy to install OPENSTEP to the portable
notebook of your choice. Just make sure you have the 4.2 drivers for the
hardware it's built from (check the NeXTanswers).
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ | The box said 'Requires Windows 95,
mailto:pjb@imaginet.fr | or better.' So I bought a Macintosh.
From: see-below@not-my-address.com (Matthew Vaughan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:36:42 -0700
Message-ID: <see-below-1905982136420001@209.24.240.108>
References: <6jhivm$22a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <355CC6E3.F30A0812@nstar.net> <6jij29$dq6$5@news.seicom.net> <Et0nDE.Ixo@abulafia.in-berlin.de> <6jivae$1ju$1@camel19.mindspring.com> <6jn6tv$138a1@odie.mcleod.net> <6jq71q$e4$1@amdint.amd.com>
In article <6jq71q$e4$1@amdint.amd.com>, raketenschelm@hotmail.com wrote:
> Please, look around: There's the big company out there, that badly tries to
> improve
> an unsuited, underdeveloped mainstream operating system with multi user
> support
> and display redirection (code named Hydra) and what does Apple do?
> It takes an existing, well designed, working system and cripple it to be what
> WindowsNT 4.0 is.
> Congratulations, if that's how Apple thinks different, I'm afraid that
> businesses won't
> consider Apple a serious alternative.
> Reducing administration costs is a big requirement and NT sucks with regard
> to
> administration. I'm looking forward to test Hydra hoping it saves me time.
> Without NX/NSHosting and a MacOS-X running on X86 hardware, how do you
> want to make me interested in the "New Technology" from Apple?
I agree. It appears Apple has _no_ plans for the business desktop
whatsoever, instead focusing 100% on the consumer market. I think this is
wrong, because despite past resistance to buying Macs (and OpenStep), I
think Rhapsody will have a lot of things (and NXHosting _would_ have been
one of the big ones...) that corporations would very much like to have.
And, despite that huge "untapped" consumer market of non-computer users,
the simple fact is the business world spends tons and tons on computers.
....................................................
MATTHEW VAUGHAN
matthewv at best dot com (damn spammers...)
http://www.best.com/~matthewv/
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: network & ppp stuff
Message-ID: <Jq4eJVkxhW+6@cc.usu.edu>
From: root@127.0.0.1
Date: 19 May 98 18:45:11 MDT
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In <6jqvfk$sch@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
> Also, if you haven't requested a static IP address from your
> ISP, ppp won't work because of that too. NeXT network stuff
> won't handle dynamic IP assignment.
What malarkey. Thousands of people, including myself, use
dynamic IP assignment with our NextStep/OpenStep ppp connections
every single day.
There is more senseless dis-information being thrown in these
csn newsgroups by self-proclaimed experts with each passing hour.
It makes me want to puke.
From: Jeff Parnaby <parnaby@macconnect.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help! WordPerfect problem
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 00:25:01 +0000
Organization: MacConnect - Connecting the Mac OS to the World!
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I just recently bought a used copy of WordPerfect for my NeXT Color
Turbo. The software seemed to install fine, it launches fine, but
strange things are happening when I open a new document and attempt to
type. Certain keys on the keyboard are not recognized, and others don't
perform their intended functions. For example, the S, A, and E keys
don't work (the system alert sounds), the return key moves the cursor
one position to the right (rather than down), and the W key acts as
return. What is going on here?
I have explored the preferences panel, and there are no settings of any
relevance. I have also referenced the on-line help, with no luck. I am
using NS 3.3, and the version of WordPerfect is 1.0.1. The previous
owner said he used it flawlessly under NS 3.2. Does anyone have any
suggestions?
Thanks, in advance, for any advice offered.
--
***************************
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shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally
coded for a four bit microprocessor which was written by a two bit
company that can't stand one bit of competition.
From: "Gary" <pg@simplynet.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Freeware Shareware
Date: 20 May 1998 14:00:36 GMT
Organization: gte.net
Message-ID: <6junm4$11k$13@gte1.gte.net>
Freeware Shareware
http://www.simplynet.net/pg/coolinks.html-ssi
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TOUCH-TYPING
Date: 20 May 1998 14:34:02 GMT
Organization: Cambridge University
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Does anyone know of any (free!) touch-typing tutorials available for
UNIX systems?
Thanks, Thomas.
From: colombet@arles.timone.univ-mrs.fr (Bruno Colombet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for a free CDWriter software
Date: 20 May 1998 15:36:22 GMT
Organization: Universites d' Aix en Provence
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Maybe I'm a dreamer but I would be very happy if I could use my Ricoh cd
writer on my Intel NS3.3 station.
Is there a soft to, at least, create an ISO image of a NeXT partition?
Thanks for any help!
--
Bruno Colombet - Université de la Méditerranée
Laboratoire de Neuropsychologie et Neurophysiologie
+33 (0)4 91 32 46 13 (direct)
+33 (0)4 91 32 43 69 (secr. + répondeur)
colombet@arles.timone.univ-mrs.fr
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFAX permissions
Date: 20 May 1998 15:37:36 GMT
Organization: UC Davis - Dept. Applied Science
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In <6jsj02$1h1a@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> Karen Vranizan wrote:
> Has anyone ever experienced intermittent mail messaging from NXFAX to
> users upon receipt of new faxes? When a new fax arrives I occasionally
> get mail telling me so, usually only the first and second times after
> rebooting. Then silence... Annoying.
>
> Thanks for any info. Karen
>
>
The only times I don't get an email notification is when I am already
running the FaxReader. Otherwise, it seems to run very reliably. Check
for messages in /usr/adm/messages and syslog. A successful email receipt
should look like this in syslog (in /usr/spool/mqueue or /usr/adm/):
May 14 13:38:16 hostname sendmail[9107]: NAA09107: from=agent, size=137,
class=0, pri=30137, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<199805142038.NAA09107@hostname.ucdavis.edu>,
relay=agent@localhostname
May 14 13:38:18 hostname sendmail[9109]: NAA09107: to=user1, ctladdr=agent
(1/1), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=local, stat=Sent
May 14 13:38:18 hostname sendmail[9113]: NAA09113: from=agent, size=138,
class=0, pri=30138, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<199805142038.NAA09113@hostname.ucdavis.edu>,
relay=agent@localhostname
May 14 13:38:19 hostname sendmail[9116]: NAA09113: to=user2, ctladdr=agent
(1/1), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, stat=Sent
The above shows the message being successfully sent to user1 and user2 who
are on the notification list. The fax came in at 13:35, the delay is due
to machine load. There was alot of email being handled at that time.
--
________________________________________________
Ryan P. Scott
Laser and Electro-Optics Research Group
UC Davis - Department of Applied Science
Tel: (530)754-4358 Fax: (530)752-1652
Email: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu
________________________________________________
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help! WordPerfect problem
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:28:38 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
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Jeff Parnaby wrote:
> I just recently bought a used copy of WordPerfect for my NeXT Color
> Turbo. The software seemed to install fine, it launches fine, but
> strange things are happening when I open a new document and attempt to
> type. Certain keys on the keyboard are not recognized, and others don't
> perform their intended functions. For example, the S, A, and E keys
> don't work (the system alert sounds), the return key moves the cursor
> one position to the right (rather than down), and the W key acts as
> return. What is going on here?
>
> I have explored the preferences panel, and there are no settings of any
> relevance. I have also referenced the on-line help, with no luck. I am
> using NS 3.3, and the version of WordPerfect is 1.0.1. The previous
> owner said he used it flawlessly under NS 3.2. Does anyone have any
> suggestions?
>
> ...
If I correctly remember, the usual WordPerfect 1.0.1 has problems on
NeXTxomputers with ADB-keyboards.
But there was a long long time ago a fixed WordPerfect version available,
which worked with ADB based NeXTcomputers. I'am sorry, I don't have
more infos on this or even such a WordPerfect version, but somebody else
might be able to give you more precise answers!
BTW, WordPerfect for NeXTstep was one of the worsts NS Apps I've ever
saw, full of bugs etc. and by no means comparable to the DOS versions of those
days!
Valentino
--
Valentino Kyriakides
Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co. Tel.: +49(0)40 / 65 80 8 - 997
Lotharstrasse 2b, D-22041 Hamburg, Germany Fax.: +49(0)40 / 65 808-202
http://www.lavielle.com/ mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com
From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 20:24:54 +0200
Organization: University of Bonn, Germany
Message-ID: <1d9b0ot.xyglrcusvdihN@rhrz-isdn3-p2.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
References: <6jhivm$22a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6jhnld$a3v$1@crib.bevc.blacksburg.va.us> <355C6969.6907242B@trilithon.com> <Et0nDE.Ixo@abulafia.in-berlin.de> <6jivae$1ju$1@camel19.mindspring.com>
In article <355CC6E3.F30A0812@nstar.net> Michael J. Peck,
mjpeck@nstar.net writes:
>I don't really think VNC is a viable solution. VNC simply takes a
>picture of the current framebuffer and sends it over the wire with your
>choice of compression. Unlike a real remotability protocol, e.g. X,
>it's inefficient and barely-usable over anything less than 10Mbps
>Ethernet
As I look at the open architecture of VNC:
A "real remotability protocol" can be seen as an efficient compression
protocol. Given a known pixel presentation of an image, a series of
graphics primitives gives a description of the new image (like they were
drawn on an actual screen).
What I want to say is that is is possible to implement a
Rhapsody-optimized VNC compression method (along with the required,
simple ones), which directly uses a repesentation of YellowBox' drawing
primitives to describe the changes.
Both coding and decoding would be very easy to implement and most
efficient at the same time.
The advantage would be that VNC would work with every other Platform,
but /best/ between Rhapsody machines.
Regards,
Dirk
--
No RISC - No fun
From: raketenschelm@hotmail.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.mac,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Der 'offizielle' Grund för den Tod von Rhapsody/x86 !
Date: 20 May 1998 19:12:30 GMT
Organization: AMD
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Cc: Jordan Dea-Mattson <jordan@apple.com>
Hello all,
I took a look at Jordan's response and I must say I'm really disappointed.
So, in this posting I try to collect some arguments for a further development
for X86 based Rhapsody systems.
First let me say that despite "carbon" the only reasonable long term API for
Apples operating system is YellowBox (OpenStep). I don't want to go into
details, but I see carbon as a Win32s kinda API, that helps (bigger, less
innovative) companies to transit to YellowBox. It's a legacy application API,
nothing that helps Apple in the future (actually if developers can't be
convinced to transit to YellowBox, the Mac is likely to vanish, since MacOS-X
has no edge over NT then)
> Dear Holger -
>
> I will give you one of our reasons in one word: drivers. Are you aware
> that IBM spent over a billion dollar on developing drivers for OS/2?
> Apple doesn't have that kind of money.
>
Actually I don't care how much money IBM spent for OS/2 drivers, we're
talking about Rhapsody here. Using the architecture of Rhapsody makes driver
development much easier, and Apple/NeXT already proved that with all the
OPENSTEP drivers. I really doubt, that NeXT spend a similar amount of money
for OPENSTEP driver development, but there are almost as much drivers out
there as for OS/2 (not to mention the good quality of those drivers).
BTW: After reaching a critical mass of installations most hardware vendores
will supply own drivers...
> Apple is willing to hear your input. But we have to hear a clear business
> case. Can you show us $100 million in revenue from doing Rhapsody for
> Intel? If you can build that kind of business case, drawing on the input
> of other potential customers, then do so. Then forward it to the
> appropriate Apple Execs. There are email addresses that are read by Steve
> Jobs and others.
>
First, it would be helpful to know these email addresses ;-) Maybe you could
publish them or forward this discussion to the right guys.
Regarding the business case, you really don't expect us to come up with a
detailed plan, how to make $100 million with an X86 port, do you? Maybe I can
do this if Apple hires me as consultant ;-) but seriously, I sense a kind of
arrogance here...
What would Apple need to make money with an X86 port of Rhapsody?
1) a good price for Rhapsody, that is attractive to students, businesses and
developers. Let's say Apple sells Rhapsody for X86 including development
tools for $100. (it can be more but has to be less than NT workstation, maybe
bundling with hardware can make the price more invisible)
2) to get $100 million revenue you need to sell 1 million copies then. Is it
that complicated? I don't know how many X86 computers are sold every year,
but one million CPU's are produced in less than a quarter (and only by one
smaller CPU company ;-), so is it so impossible to get less than 5% of the
X86 market attracted to Rhapsody? If I remember right, OS/2 had more than 3
million installations.
3)Strategy. In order to attract businesses Apple has to commit to support and
further develop Rhapsody. That includes drivers. OTOH since YelloBox is
portable across several platforms, the only thing that has to be especially
maintained for X86 computers are drivers and other hardware specific parts.
This is only a fraction of the development efforts for Rhapsody.
Third party developers will port their application to Rhapsody more likely
if the market is not focused on Macintosh machines, so the X86 platform
actually might help Rhapsody.
Once enough applications are available, businesses will get attracted to
Rhapsody in large scale (ten thousands of installations).
To believe that YellowBox for WindowsNT can yield the same results is IMHO
not likely. Providing the YellowBox runtime for NT puts Apple in the position
of reacting to MS. While MS is not very innovative they will always have an
edge on their own system, that can make YellowBox for NT applications appear
less attractive to users (just imagine MS changes the Look and Feel again and
it takes a new YellowBox runtime to match with it. In the meantime you'll end
up with a ugly mixture [like NT4.0 applications on NT3.5.1])
4) Marketing. Apple's marketing should change to include non Macintosh users.
If you run Rhapsody you should feel like a Macintosh user, no matter if you
have an iMac or just a slow Pentium-II-400 system that gets smoked by Apple
hardware. The X86 platform is fast enough by all means. The comfort and ease
of use is always better for such tailored hardware, but PC's are still
cheaper. The fact that you don't need to by a new computer to run Rhapsody
will make a lot of people interested (the Linux effect). Most of those would
never buy a Macintosh (so I don't think it hurts Apples hardware sales much)
to run/test Rhapsody if they already have a computer (who doesn't?).
So "think different" should apply to everyone as long as one runs Rhapsody.
To respond to Apples last announcements/statements/rumors regarding Rhapsody,
if Apple really wants to make money with the Rhapsody 1.0 release, they
should sell it for all platforms - long term. Nobody will be crazy enough to
buy a X86 version if it's not clear that Apple will sell further X86
releases. The whole situation reminds me on the NEXTSTEP3.3 port for HP
workstations that made quite a few people upset about NeXT. I hope that Apple
doesn't copy that kind of marketing.
Maybe one last statement. Within the next 10 years the X86 world will transit
to new, 64bit (non X86 compatible) platforms. One will be IA64, another one
can be ALPHA (or MIPS?). All Windows users will have to migrate to a new
platform - long term. The future will be more platform independent, Java
based on not. A crucial part of that transition is the availability of a
Windows system that runs on that new platform and provides serious user
benefits. Right now it seems that MS already has problems to innovate
WindowsNT on one well-known platform (X86). Attempts to make NT an accepted
system on several platforms failed. If Apple could take that chance to
provide a well designed, powerful, easy to use operating system that already
runs Rhapsody applications, wouldn't that give Apple a serious advantage?
I'd like to see an Alpha port of Rhapsody in addition to X86, not only to
give the Pixar guys the most cost effective computer for 3D but also to be
prepared fo the 64 bit future of the X86 platform.
> Mit anderen Worten: eine Firma mit weit öber 8000 Angestellten kann
> keine 5 oder 10 Leute abstellen, die ein paar GerÙtetreiber schreiben,
> för ein Betriebssystem, dessen CPU-spezifischer Anteil schon lange
> existiert (bis auf das neue IOKit aka DriverKit).
> Wie armselig.
>
I agree, it would make Apple look pretty poor not having enough ressources
for driver development.
Patrick.
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email: raketenschelm@hotmail.com (MIME welcome)
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Subject: Re: Help! WordPerfect problem
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 20:05:46 GMT
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Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> wrote:
> If I correctly remember, the usual WordPerfect 1.0.1 has problems on
> NeXTxomputers with ADB-keyboards.
> But there was a long long time ago a fixed WordPerfect version available,
> which worked with ADB based NeXTcomputers. I'am sorry, I don't have
> more infos on this or even such a WordPerfect version, but somebody else
> might be able to give you more precise answers!
If you get the latest release (they're all called 1.0.1, but there's a date on
the start-up panel; I think you want 10 June 1993 or later) it should fix the
problem.
> BTW, WordPerfect for NeXTstep was one of the worsts NS Apps I've ever
> saw, full of bugs etc. and by no means comparable to the DOS versions
> of those days!
WP/NS was equivalent to about WP DOS 5.0, and did lack some of the things that
5.1 added -- but since these additions (eg the equation editor) were so
ghastly, I don't consider that a loss. Yes, WP/NS had (has) some bugs. But it
remains extremely usable, and is the only full-featured word processing app
available for NeXTSTEP (WriteUp etc have their pluses, but for my purposes are
missing essential features, such as footnotes). YMMV.
Stefano Pagiola
spagiola@my-dejanews.com
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From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette)
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Subject: Re: network & ppp stuff
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:10:46 -0700
Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16
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Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote:
> Also, if you haven't requested a static IP address from your
> ISP, ppp won't work because of that too. NeXT network stuff
> won't handle dynamic IP assignment.
This turns out not to be the case. I've got a NeXT Cube here that seems
to work just fine with dynamic PPP assignment from West Coast Online
(nee Verio :{ ) for the past few years.
Steohen Perkins and others have done a bang-up job or providing a good
PPP implementation for NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP systems. Please check out
http://www.peak.org/next/ppp/ for more information, and a pointer to a
mailing list full of helpful folks.
--
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service marks of Apple Computer, Inc.
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette)
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Subject: Re: Help! WordPerfect problem
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:10:42 -0700
Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16
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Jeff Parnaby <parnaby@macconnect.com> wrote:
> I just recently bought a used copy of WordPerfect for my NeXT Color
> Turbo. The software seemed to install fine, it launches fine, but
> strange things are happening when I open a new document and attempt to
> type. Certain keys on the keyboard are not recognized, and others don't
> perform their intended functions. For example, the S, A, and E keys
> don't work (the system alert sounds), the return key moves the cursor
> one position to the right (rather than down), and the W key acts as
> return. What is going on here?
>
> I have explored the preferences panel, and there are no settings of any
> relevance. I have also referenced the on-line help, with no luck. I am
> using NS 3.3, and the version of WordPerfect is 1.0.1. The previous
> owner said he used it flawlessly under NS 3.2. Does anyone have any
> suggestions?
This sounds like the ADB vs non-ADB keyboard problem. WordPerfect
misbehaved and interpreted raw keycodes directly. As a result, there
were two versions, one with standard old NeXT keyboard support, and one
with the ADB keyboard support added. Annoyingly, both are identified as
Version 1.0.1.
There was also a bit of configuration work needed to get it working
properly. Anyone recall the exact details?
Subject: tape drive program?
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu>
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I was told that there's a graphical program for OpenStep that helps you
set up tape drive backups. Can someone give me a pointer to this?
rob
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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
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Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 18 May 98 21:31:37
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In-reply-to: Henry McGilton's message of Sat, 16 May 1998 10:53:04 -0700
In article <355DD280.7FCE9175@trilithon.com>,
Henry McGilton <henry@trilithon.com> writes:
By the way, I had made a suggestion that possibly distributed
objects could be used to obtain a kind of limited remote hosting,
where one app vends a view across the wire to another app that can
lock focus on the remote view and draw into it --- even assuming
that the new lightweight toolkit has the notion of lock focus
[Mike?].
I haven't tried this (yet) to see if it would work --- I could
flange up a couple of simple apps in an hour or so and test it
even on my one-host network; but if it does, it could provide
a stop-gap capability while we're waiting for the real thing.
Even if it did work - at some level, it's still depending on the same
underlying support NXHost is depending on. I doubt it would work
as-is, since this seems like an odd configuration to put the extra
work in to support, but you could probably do it using some add-ons.
The problem is that the -lockFocus is going as a DO message and will
actually execute on the remote box, but the DPS drawing code will be
on the local box, since it's not messages to an object. [The "you
could probably do it" would involve a custom View proxy which arranged
to redirect DPS drawing to the remote box. Still wouldn't handle
events, though.]
If they really do use QuickDraw, then we just have Yet Another
Function-Based Drawing Library, but lose the network capabilities.
I'd also be concerned about whether the APIs are focussed (unless they
were to pick one of the latest comprehensive APIs and deep-six the
rest for YellowBox),
--
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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 18 May 98 21:40:09
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
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In article <joe.ragosta-1805981458540001@wil131.dol.net>,
joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) writes:
In article <od871.624$Fi2.704485@news.rdc1.sdca.home.com>,
rr6013@yahoo.com wrote:
Do you really think that the people on the Street even have a clue
on what NXHosting is and what it means to Apple? I doubt if it's
something that's going to have any direct impact on Apple's stock
price.
"People on the street" wouldn't recognize an ATM switch if you dropped
it on their head. They have analysts for this. If Apple sacrificed
NXHosting, there's yet another feature that Microsoft has that Apple
doesn't. [Doesn't make a difference if NXHost was 3x better than
anything Microsoft has, if it's gone now.]
I do feel the need to point out that though I missed the session in
question, I did attend an earlier session where it was implied that
they were _thinking_ about it, and weren't sure on their plans. And
comparing notes with other attendees, it's pretty clear that sometimes
sessions gave distinctly conflicting messages, depending on whether
the talk was given by someone from the NeXT viewpoint or the Mac
viewpoint.
[The best I heard was that someone had corralled a Mac guy after a
talk, and he clarified a point by saying that under MacOS X you
wouldn't be able to run Mac apps and YellowBox apps side-by-side, it
would require a reboot. Pretty obviously wrong, and things like that
are likely to have happened on _both_ sides of the divide,]
--
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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
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Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 18 May 98 21:25:04
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In article <6jnfkr$qjg$3@news.idiom.com>,
jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph) writes:
jonathan klein may or may not have said:
[...]
-> Think of the schools and businesses with hundreds or thousands
-> of computers and the two or three administrators who have to
-> manage all the machines.
Right now, I can use Netinfo Manager to get at any machine on a
network of OpenStep hosts, and I don't have to use NSHost to do it.
Remote administration doesn't depend on display redirection.
Configure.app.
The point being that not all administrative data is in NetInfo, nor
should all such data necessarily _be_ in NetInfo, especially data
that's seldom constant across a network. NetInfo as currently
implemented has some scaling problems, and there are problems for
which the scaling problems are intrinsic to the problem, not the
implementation.
What's next, QuickDraw in the kernel?
--
scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/
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From: Henry McGilton <henry@trilithon.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:01:09 -0700
Organization: Trilithon Research and Trading
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Scott Hess wrote:
<<<< My suggestion about DO and lockFocus snipped >>>>
* Even if it did work - at some level, it's still depending
* on the same underlying support NXHost is depending on.
* I doubt it would work as-is, since this seems like an
* odd configuration to put the extra work in to support,
* but you could probably do it using some add-ons.
* The problem is that the -lockFocus is going as a DO
* message and will actually execute on the remote box,
* but the DPS drawing code will be on the local box, since
* it's not messages to an object. [The "you could probably
* do it" would involve a custom View proxy which arranged
* to redirect DPS drawing to the remote box. Still wouldn't
* handle events, though.]
Whacka Whacka. Thanks for the clarifications, Scott. Sounds
like it would end up as too much work [if it would work at all]
to be useful.
Cheers,
........ Henry
=============================================================
Henry McGilton | Trilithon Software, and,
Boulevardier, Java Composer | Pacific Research and Trading
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From: jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 21 May 1998 19:22:01 GMT
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Scott Hess may or may not have said:
-> In article <6jnfkr$qjg$3@news.idiom.com>,
-> jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph) writes:
-> jonathan klein may or may not have said:
-> [...]
-> -> Think of the schools and businesses with hundreds or thousands
-> -> of computers and the two or three administrators who have to
-> -> manage all the machines.
->
-> Right now, I can use Netinfo Manager to get at any machine on a
-> network of OpenStep hosts, and I don't have to use NSHost to do it.
-> Remote administration doesn't depend on display redirection.
->
-> Configure.app.
I haven't seen anyone run Configure.app via NSHost yet. What I typically
see, is if someone has hosed their video setup, they'll reboot with
config=default and run Configure in a 640x480 vga mode.
-> The point being that not all administrative data is in NetInfo, nor
-> should all such data necessarily _be_ in NetInfo, especially data
-> that's seldom constant across a network.
So you put it in a local Netinfo domain. You can make it as local or global
as you want.
-> NetInfo as currently implemented has some scaling problems, and there are
-> problems for which the scaling problems are intrinsic to the problem, not
-> the implementation.
Still? I've seen it working fine for > 4000 hosts. I can't think of
anything that does a better job.
-> What's next, QuickDraw in the kernel?
God forbid.
-jcr
From: Matthew Cromer <matthew_cromer@iname.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 21 May 1998 19:19:25 GMT
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In article <6jq71q$e4$1@amdint.amd.com> , raketenschelm@hotmail.com
writes:
>Please, look around: There's the big company out there, that badly tries to
>improve
>an unsuited, underdeveloped mainstream operating system with multi user
>support
>and display redirection (code named Hydra) and what does Apple do?
>It takes an existing, well designed, working system and cripple it to be what
>WindowsNT 4.0 is.
Bingo. MSFT is pulling out all the stops to add this to WinNT, and Apple
is killing the same feature?
Yuch!
Matthew Cromer matthew_cromer@iname.com
From: cms@macisp.net (cms)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Next Turbo Color: Radius Help needed. ****
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 15:18:30 -0500
Organization: CMS
Message-ID: <cms-2105981518300001@209.26.71.138>
Hi..
We are thinking to purchase the Next System..
but want to use it.. as a Radius Server for Internet Access.
Has anyone.. done this.. or is these a pipe dream.
I know livingston has the sorce code free for BSDI.
Please Email.. cms@macisp.net
thank's to all.
Rick
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From: ericg@user2.teleport.com (Eric Gorr)
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Subject: [Q] The acceptance of EOF
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 23:13:55 GMT
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I am wondering about "market" acceptance of the Enterprise Objects Framework
(EOF) technology.
Let's ranks the acceptance of Quicktime at a 10 (on a scale of 1 - 10)
Where would EOF rank at this time?
Naturally, I am concerned that this technology might go the way of OpenDoc or
various other Apple technologies that did not gain enough acceptance for them
to have continued and full support.
I am very interested in when (if it doesn't already) it will contain native
ODBC adaptors (mentioned in a WebObjects FAQ).
Is there a FAQ for EOF?
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Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
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> [...] NetInfo as currently
> implemented has some scaling problems, and there are problems for
> which the scaling problems are intrinsic to the problem, not the
> implementation.
>
What type of problems and at what point do they occur?
Also, what would work better than NetInfo to address
these problems?
--Greg
From: mdadgar@apple.com (Mark Dadgar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 21 May 1998 23:51:55 GMT
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References: <6k1usp$34b$2@news.idiom.com>
In article <6k1usp$34b$2@news.idiom.com> jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com
(John C. Randolph) writes:
> -> The point being that not all administrative data is in NetInfo, nor
> -> should all such data necessarily _be_ in NetInfo, especially data
> -> that's seldom constant across a network.
>
> So you put it in a local Netinfo domain. You can make it as local or
> global as you want.
The Configure.app example is a fun one. Configure.app deals with information
that is required BEFORE NetInfo is even running. Bad place to put it. :)
- Mark
NetInfo Product Manager
--
Mark Dadgar
Product Marketing
Apple Computer
mdadgar@apple.com
Subject: Re: tape drive program?
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Message-ID: <_H391.198$ON2.1797327@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:31:54 GMT
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On 05/21/98, "Robert A. Decker" wrote:
>
> I was told that there's a graphical program for OpenStep that helps
> you set up tape drive backups. Can someone give me a pointer to
> this?
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/util/SafetyNet.2.5r1.NIHS.tar.g
z
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/util/SafetyNet.2.5r1.README
Commercial, but supposedly excellent
TjL
Subject: Re: TOUCH-TYPING
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:51:52 GMT
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This one is NeXT-specific:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/games/Typing.Arcade.NISH.bs.tar.
gz
TjL
Subject: Re: Help! WordPerfect problem
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
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On 05/20/98, Mike Paquette wrote:
> >This sounds like the ADB vs non-ADB keyboard
> problem. WordPerfect >misbehaved and interpreted
> raw keycodes directly. As a result, there >were
> two versions, one with standard old NeXT keyboard
> support, and one >with the ADB keyboard support
> added. Annoyingly, both are identified as >Version
> 1.0.1. >
>There was also a bit of configuration work needed to get it working
>properly. Anyone recall the exact details?
Yeah, get the version 1.0.1 which is DATED (which is what matters) 18
Mar 1994. They didn't change the version number but they changed the
date.... 18 March 1994 is the last version I know of.... If anyone has
WP and needs an upgrade, let me know.
This version automatically dealt with ADB and non-ADB.
TjL
Subject: Re: Looking for a free CDWriter software
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <6jut9m$19m$1@news.univ-aix.fr>
In-Reply-To: <6jut9m$19m$1@news.univ-aix.fr>
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Message-ID: <BQ391.200$ON2.1800593@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:41:05 GMT
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Organization: @Home Network
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/tools/cdrom/AerePerennius.1.5.README
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/tools/cdrom/AerePerennius.1.5.I.b.tar.g
z
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/tools/cdrom/AerePerennius.1.5.NIHS.b.ta
r.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/cdrom/mkisofs.1.11.NIHS.bs
.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/cdrom/mkisofs.1.11.README
See Frank Siegert's CD Survival Pack (and TONS of other goodies) at
http://www.this.net/~frank
TjL
Subject: Re: network & ppp stuff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Message-ID: <bU391.201$ON2.1801827@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:44:55 GMT
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Organization: @Home Network
On 05/19/98, root@127.0.0.1 wrote:
>What malarkey. Thousands of people, including myself, use
>dynamic IP assignment with our NextStep/OpenStep ppp connections
>every single day.
Dynamic IP via PPP will work
DHCP apparently will work, but not without a lot of massaging.
>There is more senseless dis-information being thrown in these
>csn newsgroups by self-proclaimed experts with each passing hour.
I don't read the advocasy group or the programmer group all that
often, but there seems to me to be a relatively high amount of good
information and very little, but admittedly some, bad being put out
there.
>It makes me want to puke.
I always seem to take people more seriously when they are willing to
put their names with their opinions.
TjL
From: SOSgougi@slip.net (Steven Gougi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where is OlafAM ? (Answering machine app works with ZyXel)
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:46:31 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net)
Message-ID: <SOSgougi-ya023680002205980946310001@news.slip.net>
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Hi Emmet
Not directly on point but I'm looking at the power supply on my Zyxel U-1496.
The specs are as follows
Model NO: A48200900
Class 2 Transformer
Input 120VAC 60 Hz 23.4W
Output 20VAC 900mA
AC -------------AC
\ o o /
\ o /
\ -----/
CT
Regards
Steven
In article <6jl6vh$hs8@slip.net>, emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote:
> Hi Olaf,
>
> I recently purchased a Zyxel U-1496 modem which came
> without a power supply. Assuming that I wil be
> able purchase one I'd like purchase a license to
> OlafAM.
>
> Regarding my modem, there are two buttons on the
> front but only the button with ANS and ORG clicks
> into pressed-in and pressed-out states. Should the
> data/voice button do the same thing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Emmett
From: leigh@NOSPAMcs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 22 May 1998 06:35:58 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Message-ID: <6k36ce$a26$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au>
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In <6k2emr$pdq$1@news.apple.com> Mark Dadgar wrote:
> In article <6k1usp$34b$2@news.idiom.com> jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com
> (John C. Randolph) writes:
> > -> The point being that not all administrative data is in NetInfo, nor
> > -> should all such data necessarily _be_ in NetInfo, especially data
> > -> that's seldom constant across a network.
> >
> > So you put it in a local Netinfo domain. You can make it as local or
> > global as you want.
>
> The Configure.app example is a fun one. Configure.app deals with
information
> that is required BEFORE NetInfo is even running. Bad place to put it. :)
>
> - Mark
> NetInfo Product Manager
>
That assumes Configure is only used once, when the machine is first
installed. In my experience since NeXTStep 3.1, you end up running Configure
many times over the mature installation of a machine, including changing
resolutions of monitors and mice, checking configurations of machines
remotely when a machine is misbehaving (User rings up reporting their mouse
doesn't work, "did I remember to upgrade all machines to the new version of a
driver?" etc), verifying version numbers of drivers have been upgraded (i.e.
a new SCSI tape driver version needing an updated SCSI controller driver on
150 machines) and so on.
For any administration task when machines number more than about ten, there
is a real, dramatic admin cost in not having remote access, time spent
walking buildings, trying to communicate the solution over the phone etc. If
Apple loses remote access from Rhapsody, which is standard with every machine
shipped out of the box, it is, frankly, shooting itself in the foot. An iMac
user may not miss it, but an enterprise sure will and will refuse to buy the
software and its accompanying hardware
--
Leigh Computer Science, University of Western Australia
Smith +61-8-9380-3778 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME)
Microsoft - never has so much been made by so few, by pushing so much of so
little, on so many with so little resistance.
Message-ID: <356533BC.21CD@his.com>
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 08:13:49 +0000
From: Royce Priem <priem@his.com>
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Subject: Daydream Disk File Limit
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Organization: Heller Information Services
Is there a way to exceed the 256Meg limit on Daydream disk files, or to
simply hook up a Mac formatted drive to the NeXT system?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Royce
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help! WordPerfect problem
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:55:09 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
Message-ID: <356575AC.41EE1F28@lavielle.com>
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spagiola@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> ...
> ...
>
> > BTW, WordPerfect for NeXTstep was one of the worsts NS Apps I've ever
> > saw, full of bugs etc. and by no means comparable to the DOS versions
> > of those days!
>
> WP/NS was equivalent to about WP DOS 5.0, and did lack some of the things that
> 5.1 added -- but since these additions (eg the equation editor) were so
> ghastly, I don't consider that a loss. Yes, WP/NS had (has) some bugs. But it
> remains extremely usable, and is the only full-featured word processing app
> available for NeXTSTEP (WriteUp etc have their pluses, but for my purposes are
> missing essential features, such as footnotes). YMMV.
>
Well, my WordPerfect experiences were from the german version (those days 91/92...
when I was working for a german NeXT-Center), which had quite a lot of bugs.
Here are some examples:
One of my coleages wrote his master-thesis with the german WP version, onscreen
everything looked quite nice and good, but the horror began when he started to print out
his material. - The printout was absolutely mismatched after the first 12 pages and got
more and more awkfull. The bad thing was, that all this happens the day he had to deliver
his printed thesis. - Of course he did the big mistake to believe that WP would print out
eveything (big documents) the same way as it shows them onscreen. If I remember
correctly, he didn't structured (partitioned) his document into chunks (however, a big mistake).
All in all he might better have used FrameMaker for the job!
During my time at a german NeXT-Center we had a big customer who bought a lot
of NeXT computers for an agency-LAN. He needed a german oriented word processor
for the inhouse 30 writing persons (mostly secretaries). Those times there wasn't much
NeXT-Software available and so we hadn't any choice but offer them WP versions.
They got a lot of NS-WP specific training, the do and don't etc. etc. we never had a good
feeling in offering them WP. After some usage-period even those secretaries told us that the
NeXT-WP version is buggy, ill-behaving and generally not much usable for their day work.
Best of all, WP corporation never really fixed the product, even they got a whole bunch of bug-
reports, problem-statements etc. etc.
Well, all the above mentioned things made up my humble opinion about WP, but I also can say
that the other available NS word processing apps aren't better in the usability and functionality
they offer.
Back to the point, can somebody help "Jeff Parnaby" and build patches for an WP ADB-version???
Valentino
--
Valentino Kyriakides
Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co. Tel.: +49(0)40 / 65 80 8 - 997
Lotharstrasse 2b, D-22041 Hamburg, Germany Fax.: +49(0)40 / 65 808-202
http://www.lavielle.com/ mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Daydream question?
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:08:42 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
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Hi Royce,
I'am sorry I can't tell you anything about daydream, but instead I have a few questions.
Do you know if the daydream box/software is still somewhere available???
Are you sattisfied with it and how much did you payed for it?
Greetings from Hamburg,
Valentino
--
Valentino Kyriakides
Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co. Tel.: +49(0)40 / 65 80 8 - 997
Lotharstrasse 2b, D-22041 Hamburg, Germany Fax.: +49(0)40 / 65 808-202
http://www.lavielle.com/ mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com
From: John Hornkvist <sorry@no.more.spams>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:08:59 GMT
Organization: Chalmers Tekniska Högskola
Sender: john@haddock.cd.chalmers.se (John Hprnkvist)
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In <6k36ce$a26$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> Leigh Smith wrote:
> In <6k2emr$pdq$1@news.apple.com> Mark Dadgar wrote:
> > The Configure.app example is a fun one. Configure.app deals with
> information
> > that is required BEFORE NetInfo is even running. Bad place to put it.
:)
> >
> That assumes Configure is only used once, when the machine is first
> installed
Well... I've never seen a machine with BIOS support for NetInfo, so it may be
a good idea to put the information in a place where the kernel can get to it
at boot -- before the NetInfo system has been started and before the network
drivers have been loaded.
A client server based Configure.app using Distributed Objects would
probably be a better idea. (Or simpler, mount the machines boot drive
over the network, and modify Configure.app so that it does not assume
a location for configuration files. Or you could just mount the
Drivers directory over the server's Drivers directory for a few
seconds...) Of course all this assumes a machine that is alive enough
to support Distributed Objects or NFS...
Regards,
John Hornkvist
From: "David Waffen" <dmwaff@erols.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Next Turbo Color: Radius Help needed. ****
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:17:59 -0400
Organization: Erol's Internet Services
Message-ID: <6k4j7e$lll$1@winter.news.erols.com>
References: <cms-2105981518300001@209.26.71.138>
cms wrote in message ...
>
>Hi..
>
>We are thinking to purchase the Next System..
>
=================
You may want to think about what version of NeXT. v.3.3 is not 2k
compliant. Apple has mention Patches. OpenStep, Rap and later versions
are, but support is limited. I have not used the later ones, but Next v3.3
as an OS needs a static ip address. NeXTStep does not support DCHP nor ISDN
modems, that I have heard. If there is a configuration let me know. I have
to use an acend pipeline 50 router at home to connect to my ISDN line and
work network.
HONESTLY, I love my NextStep but applications are limited, Lighthouse
products blow, and think it will become a dinosaur. Hopefully OpenStep and
Rhapsody will stay.
David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: ben@ben.tapehouse.net (Ben Rosengart)
Subject: Re: tape drive program?
Cache-Post-Path: racerx!unknown@echo2.echonyc.com
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References: <B189C7D6-3A7AC@141.214.128.36> <_H391.198$ON2.1797327@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 19:14:02 GMT
In article <_H391.198$ON2.1797327@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Timothy Luoma wrote:
>On 05/21/98, "Robert A. Decker" wrote:
>>
>> I was told that there's a graphical program for OpenStep that helps
>> you set up tape drive backups. Can someone give me a pointer to
>> this?
>
>ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/util/SafetyNet.2.5r1.NIHS.tar.g
>z
>
>ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/util/SafetyNet.2.5r1.README
>
>
>Commercial, but supposedly excellent
I use it at work -- it's alright, but I'd be just as happy with tar, which
has the advantage of being restorable anywhere.
--
Ben
"You have your mind on computers, it seems."
Subject: Re: tape drive program?
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu>
To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu, "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@ti.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.hardware
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:32:52 GMT
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I downloaded safety net but the demo key that comes with it expired
almost a year ago. I can run it under demo mode without a key, but can only
back up 25 files. Is this correct?
If I even wanted to buy it would that be possible? (I'd actually like to
try it before I buy it though).
Otherwise, anyone have cron jobs I can borrow?
rob
--
<mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu>
<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi>
Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab
University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center
"Get A Life" quote #8: "Wow. A doctor. Maybe you can help me with another
little problem I'm having. What exactly does it mean when you wake up every
morning in a pool of your own vomit?"
-Chris Elliott
Subject: Re: tape drive program?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
References: <B18B5A23-6233F9@141.214.128.36>
In-Reply-To: <B18B5A23-6233F9@141.214.128.36>
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Message-ID: <w4m91.248$ON2.2268703@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 21:26:52 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:26:52 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
On 05/22/98, "Robert A. Decker" wrote:
> If I even wanted to buy it would that be possible? (I'd actually
> like to try it before I buy it though).
Brian Cuthie <brian@systemix.com> was the last known address of the
author.... he might be able to give you a demo license or sell you a
full license.
TjL
Subject: Re: Next Turbo Color: Radius Help needed. ****
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 21:21:45 GMT
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On 05/22/98, "David Waffen" wrote:
> You may want to think about what version of NeXT.
> v.3.3 is not 2k compliant.
There is only one part of 3.3 that was not compliant, setting the Date
with Preferences.app.
There's already a fix for this.
> Apple has mention Patches.
Haven't heard this myself, but I don't know what else needs patching
> Next v3.3 as an OS needs a static ip address.
False. Dynamic PPP works just fine.
> NeXTStep does not support DCHP nor ISDN
> modems, that I have heard. If there is a
> configuration let me know.
I believe that there are folks out there who have DHCP working under
3.3.... personally I haven't had to use it.
I've used my 3.3 NeXTStation with a static IP and a cable modem, and
gotten speeds just as fast as with my P-133
> HONESTLY, I love my NextStep but applications are
> limited, Lighthouse products blow, and think it
> will become a dinosaur. Hopefully OpenStep and
> Rhapsody will stay.
OpenStep is dead and Rhapsody won't be around for Intel (which will
probably drive me to the world of Windows unless PPC hardware suddenly
becomes an affordable alternative).
OpenStep 4.2 will slowly become obsolete.... there will more than
likely never be a Javascript-enabled browser for OS, nor Real Audio,
nor a decent QuickTime/AVI/MPG anything else.... I expect to find
myself booting into Win95 more and more as I want to use the Internet.
It's sad, but after 7 years in the NeXTStep world, it feels like the
end is near for me.... I'll probably keep using Unix in another form,
probably FreeBSD, but I think the no-Intel future for Apple will be
the final mistake.... NeXT, Inc found out that the world didn't want
better-but-more-expensive hardware, they want sucky PC hardware
because it's cheaper. I'd be happy to be wrong, but after that
announcement my hope for an enjoyable OS in the future died....
TjL
From: Louis.Eagle@Tek.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tape drive program?
Date: 22 May 1998 22:02:14 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR USA
Message-ID: <6k4sl6$9jq$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com>
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In <w4m91.248$ON2.2268703@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy Luoma wrote:
> On 05/22/98, "Robert A. Decker" wrote:
>
>
> > If I even wanted to buy it would that be possible? (I'd actually
> > like to try it before I buy it though).
>
> Brian Cuthie <brian@systemix.com> was the last known address of the
> author.... he might be able to give you a demo license or sell you a
> full license.
>
> TjL
>
I've been a very satisfied SafetyNet user for about six years. In my setup,
it runs every night for seven nights then ejects the tape. So, once a week
I create a new archive index file, feed the DAT drive a new (or recycle an
old) tape, and off it goes. Very easy. Restore of any incremental version
of a file or files is fast and flexible.
Well done app.
Have a look at <http://www.systemix.com>
Louis Eagle
--
From: "online" <online@pathcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: 22 May 1998 23:01:27 GMT
Organization: Pathway Communications
Message-ID: <01bd85d5$d87de720$102852d1@www.sa00bum.hellafax.com>
I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this program,
by the way I'm using Windows 95.
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Daydream Disk File Limit
Date: 22 May 1998 22:29:02 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <6k4u7e$15f$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
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In <356533BC.21CD@his.com> Royce Priem wrote:
> Is there a way to exceed the 256Meg limit on Daydream disk files, or
to
> simply hook up a Mac formatted drive to the NeXT system?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
Been a while since I had a daydream to play with. My largest disk
file was 150M. Beyond that I used removable MO media for more
space. I'm sure a Mac formatted HD would work fine that is larger
than 256MB.
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
spammers works also :)
Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining,
Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.)
From: Robert Worne <rworne at primenet dot com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help! WordPerfect problem
Date: 22 May 1998 17:35:00 -0700
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In <iP391.199$ON2.1799665@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy Luoma wrote:
> Yeah, get the version 1.0.1 which is DATED (which is what matters) 18
> Mar 1994. They didn't change the version number but they changed the
> date.... 18 March 1994 is the last version I know of.... If anyone has
> WP and needs an upgrade, let me know.
>
> This version automatically dealt with ADB and non-ADB.
This version is real sweet too. After having both WriteUp, and OpenWrite,
I quickly moved to WP as my wordprocessor of choice. Never a problem:
no crashes, hangs, or refusing to load documents that the wordprocessor
itself corrupted.
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From: Ivan.Schaffel@snet.net
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Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:53:06 -0400
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> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
>freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this
>program, by the way I'm using Windows 95.
Switch to OS/2 Warp version 4.0 with fixpack 6 installed. It is 100% y2k
compliant. Purchase Lotus Smart Suite for OS/2 which is also y2k
compliant. Ditto for most other OS/2 products.
--
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most advanced 32 bit operating system in the world. Installation of
this software on your machine will cause increased productivity, Power
User Syndrome and cause you to make your own decisions about how you
want to use your work station. Get Warped at your own risk!
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
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Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
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Date: 23 May 1998 01:17:49 GMT
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Actually, I'd suggest OpenStep 4.2 for this. Much better application support
then OS/2, and a much nicer, more attractive interface.
Call 1-800-try-next.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
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From: "Don Magie" <dmagie@pathcom.com>
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Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: 23 May 1998 02:22:42 GMT
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There are a number of good programs to perform analysis of a system
failure.
You can try Compuware's Fault-XPERT (recently renamed to EcoSnap) which can
accomodate almost any GPF on most operating systems or NuMega Technologies
FailSafe which is only appropriate for VC++, VBasic or VJ++.
I hope this helps.
Kind Regards,
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online <online@pathcom.com> wrote in article
<01bd85d5$d87de720$102852d1@www.sa00bum.hellafax.com>...
> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
> freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this
program,
> by the way I'm using Windows 95.
>
>
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
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Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 23 May 1998 03:56:56 GMT
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In article <6k1usp$34b$2@news.idiom.com> jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
writes:
> Scott Hess may or may not have said:
>->
>-> Configure.app.
>
>I haven't seen anyone run Configure.app via NSHost yet. What I typically
>see, is if someone has hosed their video setup, they'll reboot with
>config=default and run Configure in a 640x480 vga mode.
I did that yesterday, when a monitor died and had to swap in another
with lower resolution limits. Ran Configure.app via NXHost and
changed paremeters. Had to reboot only once.
I hate to have to pay for a third-party solution, esp. if a license
is required for each seat.
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Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
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online wrote in message
<01bd85d5$d87de720$102852d1@www.sa00bum.hellafax.com>...
> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
>freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this program,
>by the way I'm using Windows 95.
Electric Blanket 98 will keep your PC from freezing.
Ciao,
Scott
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From: dpbsmith@world.std.com (Daniel P. B. Smith)
Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:22:37 GMT
In article <01bd85d5$d87de720$102852d1@www.sa00bum.hellafax.com>,
online <online@pathcom.com> wrote:
> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
>freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this program,
>by the way I'm using Windows 95.
What you need is a copy of:
"The Frozen Keyboard: Living with Bad Software," by Boris Beizer, 1988,
Tab Books, ISBN 0-8306-3146-1.
--
Daniel P. B. Smith
dpbsmith@world.std.com
From: odio@wwa.com (.rivet.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: test
Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:14:07 GMT
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this just a test
From: "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Uninstall software
Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 16:57:00 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6k7grk$riu$1@news.missouri.edu>
How can I uninstall the softwares on NeXT? Can I just drag it to recycle
directly or do I need to do something special like uninstaller on Sun or
Windows?
Thanks.
--
Sarawoot Chittratanawat
c641625@showme.missouri.edu
From: murray@NOSPAMbucks.net
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 22:09:27 GMT
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On Sat, 23 May 1998 14:22:37 GMT, dpbsmith@world.std.com (Daniel P. B.
Smith) wrote:
>In article <01bd85d5$d87de720$102852d1@www.sa00bum.hellafax.com>,
>online <online@pathcom.com> wrote:
>> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
>>freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this program,
>>by the way I'm using Windows 95.
>
>What you need is a copy of:
>
>"The Frozen Keyboard: Living with Bad Software," by Boris Beizer, 1988,
>Tab Books, ISBN 0-8306-3146-1.
Ahhh... old Boris -- _the_ testing guru.
Murray
-- whoops -- did I say a bad word Daniel?
-- so has anyone actually seen this "test-design thinking" in action?
Sounds too much like "software engineering" <yech> for this hairy
smelly programmer
-- well ok -- so I'm not actually a hairy smelly programmer <he says
trying to hide his pointy hair under a baseball cap> -- but we all
gotta have goals right?
From: "D. Scott Secor - Millennial Infarction Mitigator" <y2k@uswest.net.NO$PAM>
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Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:20:14 -0500
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Daniel P. B. Smith wrote in message ...
>In article <01bd85d5$d87de720$102852d1@www.sa00bum.hellafax.com>,
>online <online@pathcom.com> wrote:
>> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
>>freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this
program,
>>by the way I'm using Windows 95.
>
>What you need is a copy of:
>
>"The Frozen Keyboard: Living with Bad Software," by Boris Beizer, 1988,
>Tab Books, ISBN 0-8306-3146-1.
Up here in Minnesota we much prefer the "Prestone Syndrome".
(Takeoff on the classic SNL "Pepsi Syndrome")
Ciao,
Scott Secor
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXEM48 source available
Date: 24 May 1998 00:03:34 GMT
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Hi folks!
I just put the source code of NX48SX - an emulator for the HP48SX calculator
for NeXTSTEP and OpenStep (it is a NS3.3 project) in full source on my
download page on this.net.
Maybe it will be of some use for someone
Frank
--
* Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank
* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard
* "The answer is vi, what was your question...?"
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Uninstall software
Message-ID: <1998052402161900.WAA06962@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 24 May 1998 02:16:19 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6k7grk$riu$1@news.missouri.edu>
Well, it depends.
If it was installed as a .pkg file through the Installer.app, there will be a
matching .pkg file in the /NextLibrary/Receipts directory--double-click on that
and choose the delete option.
If it didn't come thusly packaged, afaik, just trash it, unless of course it's
something like wm.app which ought not be trashed.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <10466895377625@digifix.com>
Date: 24 May 1998 03:49:53 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <8873895982424@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Daydream Disk File Limit
Date: 23 May 1998 22:51:19 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6k8cgn$adu@slip.net>
References: <356533BC.21CD@his.com>
In article <356533BC.21CD@his.com>, Royce Priem <priem@his.com> wrote:
>Is there a way to exceed the 256Meg limit on Daydream disk files, or to
>simply hook up a Mac formatted drive to the NeXT system?
>
Yes, you can attach a Mac formated drive such as a Zip.
Emmett
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need *.ps -> *.gif converter
Date: 24 May 1998 11:51:09 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <6k91je$lq9$1@dropit.pgh.net>
I am trying to convert *.ps to *.gif images on my NeXT Cube.
OmniImage can convert *.eps to *.gif, but it doesn't recognize *.ps.
Some apps can output a *.eps image but a lot can't. However, all can
output *.ps through Preview.app.
Does anybody know of an app that will run on a Cube and convert *.ps
to *.gif? Alternately, does anybody know of an app that will run on
a Cube and convert *.ps to *.eps. Actually, this may already exist
on the Cube, but if it does, I don't know the name. That would be
helpful, if it exists.
-----
Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 724-941-6883
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: "boris beizer" <bbeizer@sprintmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:43:34 -0400
Message-ID: <6k9865$iva$1@newsfep2.sprintmail.com>
References: <01bd85d5$d87de720$102852d1@www.sa00bum.hellafax.com> <EtEyLq.B0F@world.std.com> <356748ff.9566997@news.bucks.net>
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murray@NOSPAMbucks.net wrote in message <356748ff.9566997@news.bucks.net>...
>On Sat, 23 May 1998 14:22:37 GMT, dpbsmith@world.std.com (Daniel P. B.
>Smith) wrote:
>
>>In article <01bd85d5$d87de720$102852d1@www.sa00bum.hellafax.com>,
>>online <online@pathcom.com> wrote:
>>> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
>>>freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this program,
>>>by the way I'm using Windows 95.
Off the topic, but....I've been using Norton Crashguard (in the latest Norton
Utilities package). I understand that many of its features will be
incorporated into WIN98. So as is usually the case for the MSFT/Symantec
collaboration, there will be a Norton Utilities '98 with probably an even more
improved version of Crashguard. It seems to be able to prevent and/or fix 95%
of the crashes.
>>
>>What you need is a copy of:
>>
>>"The Frozen Keyboard: Living with Bad Software," by Boris Beizer, 1988,
>>Tab Books, ISBN 0-8306-3146-1.
Thanks for the recommendation, folks. It was one of my favorite books (as a
writer). It was originally published in hard cover under the title "Personal
Computer QUality: A Guide for Victims and Vendors" Van Nostrand Reinhold,
ISBN 0-442-2992-4. It doesn't answer the question directly, but it is a
guide for evaluating PC software. Both version are out of print. However, I
do about 2 dozen copies on hand. Since I'm trying to clear out some shelves
with old book copies, send me a check fo $30 and I'll ship you an autographed
copy until my stock runs out. Ask about availability of other titles.
>
>Ahhh... old Boris -- _the_ testing guru.
I really object to "old." What next? "Senile?" Besides, to quote Paul
Newman after he won the Daytona 500 at age 60 or so "Youth, stamina, and
reaction time are no match for the treachery of an old man."
Boris
-------------------------------------
Boris Beizer Ph.D. Seminars and Consulting
1232 Glenbrook Road on Software Testing and
Huntingdon Valley, PA 19006 Quality Assurance
TEL: 215-572-5580
FAX: 215-886-0144
Email direct: bbeizer@sprintmail.com
Email (Forwarded): bbeizer@acm.org, bbeizer@bigfoot.com
------------------------------------------
From: BrookeShields@ThisSite.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: JENNA JAIMESON NUDE 68864
Date: Saturday, 23 May 1998 21:28:40 -0600
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From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need to convert WriteUp to Word for NT 4.0
Date: 24 May 1998 17:40:31 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <6k9m2g$6ur$1@dropit.pgh.net>
I guess that says it all.
WriteUp on my Cube can write many different formats, but none of them
are quite right. The closest seems to be WinWord 6.0. However, it
does a number of strange things such as failing to convert/include
part of the text, changing font sizes and changing normal to bold or
vice versa.
What is the best (only?) way to get a WriteUp file to a Windows NT
4.0 Word *.doc file? If WriteUp can't do it, is there a filter or a
conversion app I can use?
-----
Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 724-941-6883
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: BrookeShields@ThisSite.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: JENNA JAIMESON NUDE 18744
Date: Sunday, 24 May 1998 06:10:06 -0600
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http://members.coolnet.net/~tyler12
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CAN TALK TO THEM TOO...
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xJdX
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: murray@NOSPAMbucks.net
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 20:21:07 GMT
Organization: Nildram Ltd
Message-ID: <35672fa8.3417871@news.bucks.net>
References: <01bd85d5$d87de720$102852d1@www.sa00bum.hellafax.com> <EtEyLq.B0F@world.std.com> <356748ff.9566997@news.bucks.net> <6k9865$iva$1@newsfep2.sprintmail.com>
On Sun, 24 May 1998 09:43:34 -0400, "boris beizer"
<bbeizer@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>murray@NOSPAMbucks.net wrote in message <356748ff.9566997@news.bucks.net>...
<snip>
>>Ahhh... old Boris -- _the_ testing guru.
>
>I really object to "old." What next? "Senile?" Besides, to quote Paul
>Newman after he won the Daytona 500 at age 60 or so "Youth, stamina, and
>reaction time are no match for the treachery of an old man."
Whoops -- should have noticed this had been cross-posted. Actually Mr
Beizer -- I was rather having a bit of a dig a certain hairy smelly
programmers on c.s.y2k who seem to regard anything tainted by the
phrase "software engineering" as anathema to their cause.
Thanks for posting anyway.
Murray
<slunks off into the murky denizens of csy2k -- never to be seen in
any respectable newsgroup again.>
From: david614@boo.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Deciphering Opener Software
Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 22:12:27 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6ka60a$mfv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hi There:
I am having difficulties making the Opener application from the Stepwise
website work on my machine. I just bought a black NeXTStation Turbo color
and wanted to set it up to connect to the Internet. When I place tar.gz
archive over the Opener App icon, it opens the text editor, and i get what
looks like program code, and an ascii dump of the readme files associated
with the archived application (in this case Omnipdf).
Could someone out there suggest what I am doing wrong? I followed the
directions for loading the Opener app itself, using gnutar -xvz <filename> to
unarchive and install it.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
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From: Jewel@FamousChicks.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: JENNA JAIMESON NUDE 70414
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: kramden@interlog.com (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: want MIME tools for NS (BLLACK)
Date: 24 May 1998 21:13:36 -0400
Organization: InterLog Internet Services -Data (416) 515-1414 -Voice (416) 975-2655
Message-ID: <6kagk0$4is@shell1.interlog.com>
NNTP-Posting-Time: 25 May 1998 01:13:38 GMT
Hello. Does anyone know where I can find an executable version
of mime tools for NS 3.0 (BLACK) that runs from a terminal window.
Please e-mail me and I'll post a summary. Thanks.
--
Rob Arrabito
phone: (416) 374-2672
e-mail: kramden@interlog.com
From: Denise Howard <denisehAT@idiomDOT.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Deciphering Opener Software
Date: 25 May 1998 01:22:04 GMT
Organization: Remove capital letters to reply
Message-ID: <6kah3s$9s6$1@news.idiom.com>
References: <6ka60a$mfv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980117 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/2.2.6-STABLE (i386))
david614@boo.net wrote:
> I am having difficulties making the Opener application from the Stepwise
> website work on my machine. I just bought a black NeXTStation Turbo color
> and wanted to set it up to connect to the Internet. When I place tar.gz
> archive over the Opener App icon, it opens the text editor, and i get what
> looks like program code, and an ascii dump of the readme files associated
> with the archived application (in this case Omnipdf).
First of all, unarchiving a file using Opener is much easier than picking
up the icon and dropping it onto Opener. Just double-click on the file's
icon in your File Viewer and Opener will take over.
Secondly, Opener works best if it's NOT on your dock--just let it launch
by double-clicking on some archived file that it understands, or launch it
independently so that it appears at the bottom of your screen.
I'm trying to visualize the behavior you describe, and offhand the only
thing I can think of that would cause this is if your file is named (for
example) foo-tar.gz or foo_tar.gz rather than foo.tar.gz (note the first
period). A tar file is multiple files mushes together in a certain
format. Opener depends on the presence of the periods as delimiters for
the filename extensions.
E-mail me directly if you need further assistance. My reply address is
deliberately de-spammed--just remove the capital letters.
Denise Howard
(Opener's mom)
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Deciphering Opener Software
Date: 25 May 1998 04:09:03 GMT
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On 05/24/98, Denise Howard wrote:
>david614@boo.net wrote:
>> I am having difficulties making the Opener application from the
>> Stepwise website work on my machine. I just bought a black
>> NeXTStation Turbo color and wanted to set it up to connect to
>> the Internet. When I place tar.gz archive over the Opener App
>> icon, it opens the text editor, and i get what looks like program
>> code, and an ascii dump of the readme files associated with the
>> archived application (in this case Omnipdf).
>
Since this is from Stepwise, its probably OpenUp, not Opener.
Sounds to me like OpenUp isn't in an applications directory
>First of all, unarchiving a file using Opener is much easier than
>picking up the icon and dropping it onto Opener. Just double-click
>on the file's icon in your File Viewer and Opener will take over.
>
>Secondly, Opener works best if it's NOT on your dock--just let it
>launch by double-clicking on some archived file that it understands,
>or launch it independently so that it appears at the bottom of
>your screen.
>
Hmmm has anyone tried OpenUp on the doc? Not that its really
needed on the dock..
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From: Laurent Curnier <Laurent.Curnier@loria.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Quantrix
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 10:21:10 +0200
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Hello NeXT community
I would like to run Quantrix on my NS3.0, but the application hangs.
Does anyone use Quantrix on this release of NeXTStep ?
Thanks in advance
L.C
From: Valentino Kyriakides <1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help! WordPerfect problem
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 17:56:16 +0200
Organization: Ab. Softwaretechnik
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To: Timothy Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org>
Timothy Luoma wrote:
> On 05/20/98, Mike Paquette wrote:
>
> > >This sounds like the ADB vs non-ADB keyboard
> > problem. WordPerfect >misbehaved and interpreted
> > raw keycodes directly. As a result, there >were
> > two versions, one with standard old NeXT keyboard
> > support, and one >with the ADB keyboard support
> > added. Annoyingly, both are identified as >Version
> > 1.0.1. >
>
> >There was also a bit of configuration work needed to get it working
> >properly. Anyone recall the exact details?
>
> Yeah, get the version 1.0.1 which is DATED (which is what matters) 18
> Mar 1994. They didn't change the version number but they changed the
> date.... 18 March 1994 is the last version I know of.... If anyone has
> WP and needs an upgrade, let me know.
>
> This version automatically dealt with ADB and non-ADB.
>
Sounds interesting!
My (really old) version is dated 19 Sept 1991, it doesn't support ADB
keyboards
and has problems to bold and italic text-portions (instead prints Ctrl-B
and Ctrl-A).
Timothy, can you make your WP upgrade version dated 19 Sept 1991 somehow
available?
I would like to see if the bugs my old version has are fixed in the
version you have.
The version you have is nearly two years newer than my and should be
fixed.
Maybe, I have to review my WP opinion and the version from 1994 is well
usable (?) ;-)
VKyr
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From: Valentino Kyriakides <1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help! WordPerfect problem
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 18:07:45 +0200
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Valentino Kyriakides wrote:...
> Timothy, can you make your WP upgrade version dated 19 Sept 1991 somehow
> available?
> ...
> ...
OOps, a typo (or better said too quick copy and paste)!
Of course Timothy's version is dated 18 March 1994!!!
--
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From: tony@gestel.it
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sun SPARCstation Voyager and NEXSTEP 3.3
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 16:13:36 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6kc5bg$7c4$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hi guys,
we have a Sun SPARCstation Voyager with NEXSTEP 3.3 installed.
The problem is very easy: the internal floppy drive does NOT work properly.
It is impossible for us to normally use the floppy drive. It seems to be an
hardware incompatibility...
Any hints? Does it exist any kind of software patch to solve this problem ?
Please help!!
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Message-ID: <aNja1.522$ON2.3698651@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:38:46 GMT
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On 05/25/98, Valentino Kyriakides wrote:
> Timothy, can you make your WP upgrade version dated 19 Sept 1991
> somehow available?
I have done so, to licensed users of previous WP versions...
> Maybe, I have to review my WP opinion and the version from 1994 is
> well usable (?) ;-)
I have used it quite a lot since 1991, including a 400+-page book
project, and found it quite usable in most respects... The indexing
stinks, unfortunately, so we had to do that by hand.
TjL
From: david614@boo.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP Problems
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 01:50:15 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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Hi There:
I am trying to setup ppp 2.3 on a black next station color turbo. I have the
package unarchived, but when I try to install it it tells me that I do not
have permissions necessary to modify certain key files.
Here is the very (I know basic) question: How do I "obtain" these
permissions, as I have already changed the root password, though when I
rebooted afterward I was never challenged to input a password.
Anyway. Any advice for this basic question would be appreciated. I must
admit, after the relative ease of the Windows world, it is clear to me that I
have been spoiled -- too completely shielded from the arcana of setting up a
real operating system on a workstation.
Thanks in advance for the help
David Mussington
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From: cms@macisp.net (cms)
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From: Joe Davis <jdavis@spdc.ti.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Color from B/W station
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 07:56:33 -0500
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I have a B/W NextStation but I need to print out some color graphs for a
presentation.
I *don't* need to be able to see the colors on my screen -- only to be able to
use
my machine to construct the presentation in Concurrence (since Powerpoint is
such
a brain-dead program when it comes to PS).
What I have tried is to change the background to BLUE, then save to a file,
and print that file on my color printer at work. Unfortunately, the print
comes
out in B/W. Does anyone know if this is possible?
Please help! I need to be able to make this presentation tomorrow!
-jcd
--
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Process Flow Synthesis P.O. Box 655012, MS 3704
(972) 927-3805 Dallas, TX 75265
From: jeff_brand@yahoo.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP Problems
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:29:30 GMT
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re: Permissions...
If you don't log in when you turn on the machine, then you've not
set a password for "Me" (At least, with 3.0, that I've got...)
If you go into properties, and set a password, then log out, you should
get the login prompt.
That's when you log in as ROOT. The default user is "ME" with no
dangerous permissions.
Hope this helps...
...Jeff
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Subject: Re: Sound input on Cube problems.
Date: 26 May 1998 08:32:00 -0700
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In <6jqo5v$2oo$1@madmax.keyway.net> "Erik Nieves" wrote:
[message about magically recentering mic gain on black snipped]
> Funny you should mention that, 'cause I've got the same problem. I thought
> that maybe I had a bad soundbox or something....
> I'll keep watch to see if there's a fix...
No fix. That's the way it is on black HW. You do need a special mic, your
average
off the shelf mic will not work.
I have a Sony F-V5 300-Ohm dynamic mic that works fine (and was cheap, too).
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From: pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is it possible to play music CDs through a slab's speakers?
Date: 26 May 1998 16:39:32 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <6ker84$omo@lace.colorado.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: pb
I recently installed CDPlayer, thinking that I would be able to use my
slab's soundbox to play music. However, it doesn't work. Am I doing
something wrong? Is there another app that I need? Do I need a
different CD-ROM player? (I have an external Toshiba CD-ROM player
(TXM3401E1).)
Thanks in advance.
PB Schechter
pb@colorado.edu
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 22 May 98 08:58:10
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In-reply-to: jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com's message of 21 May 1998 19:22:01 GMT
In article <6k1usp$34b$2@news.idiom.com>,
jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph) writes:
Scott Hess may or may not have said:
-> NetInfo as currently implemented has some scaling problems, and
-> there are problems for which the scaling problems are intrinsic
-> to the problem, not the implementation.
Still? I've seen it working fine for > 4000 hosts. I can't think
of anything that does a better job.
As I understand the problem, it's not so much the number of NetInfo
daemons that are serving the information, it's the amount of
information being served. Various of the larger schools have long
complained about NetInfo's handling of upwards of 10k user accounts.
Unfortunately, there may be some question as to whether this is still
being tested, given the current state of the NeXTSTEP "market" (put
another way, I'd be surprised if these larger schools still are using
NetInfo in any significant fashion).
Later,
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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 22 May 98 10:39:10
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In-reply-to: 's message of Thu, 21 May 1998 18:26:01 -0400
In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980521182457.13182C-100000@shell.clark.net>,
<gbh@middlemarch.net> writes:
Scott wrote:
> [...] NetInfo as currently implemented has some scaling
> problems, and there are problems for which the scaling problems
> are intrinsic to the problem, not the implementation.
What type of problems and at what point do they occur?
The problems I've discussed with people generally relate not to the
number of machines using NetInfo so much as the amount of info in
NetInfo. So, thousands of machines can use it, but if you have 10k
user accounts, things get pokey, both at query time (more frequent
than you think) and moreso at update time.
Also, what would work better than NetInfo to address these
problems?
I'm not sure there _are_ good ways to address it, because some of the
problems may be more due to how the info is used than the info itself.
Other than that, I'd guess some sort of batch mode would be very
helpful. Something where you can scedule the updates, and hint them
so that the data propagates at a low level (ie, file copies) rather
than a high level (NetInfo data structures).
This may be something that can be fixed with the various database
replication technology that's come into being since NetInfo was
created.
Later,
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From: jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXHosting is dead ?
Date: 26 May 1998 16:38:34 GMT
Organization: Idiom Communications
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Mark Dadgar may or may not have said:
-> In article <6k1usp$34b$2@news.idiom.com> jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com
-> (John C. Randolph) writes:
-> > -> The point being that not all administrative data is in NetInfo, nor
-> > -> should all such data necessarily _be_ in NetInfo, especially data
-> > -> that's seldom constant across a network.
-> >
-> > So you put it in a local Netinfo domain. You can make it as local or
-> > global as you want.
->
-> The Configure.app example is a fun one. Configure.app deals with
information
-> that is required BEFORE NetInfo is even running. Bad place to put it. :)
Allright, I'll concede the point.
-jcr
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is it possible to play music CDs through a slab's speakers?
Date: 26 May 1998 21:43:00 GMT
Organization: UC Davis - Dept. Applied Science
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In <6ker84$omo@lace.colorado.edu> PB Schechter wrote:
> I recently installed CDPlayer, thinking that I would be able to use my
> slab's soundbox to play music. However, it doesn't work. Am I doing
> something wrong? Is there another app that I need? Do I need a
> different CD-ROM player? (I have an external Toshiba CD-ROM player
> (TXM3401E1).)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> PB Schechter
> pb@colorado.edu
>
As far as I know it is not possible to play CD audio through to the sound
box. The only way is to use the outputs on the CDROM drive (either
headphone or line out).
PS. It would be unpractical to try to put sound out on the SCSI, process
it, and pass it on to the sound box.
--
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From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Improv -- Min/Max Functions
Date: 26 May 1998 23:28:44 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <6kfj7c$ade$1@dropit.pgh.net>
I have a couple thousand rows of weekly information. I need to find
the minimum and maximum value for an item during the past year. This
is a moving value since each week the previous 52 weeks changes. I
thought that something like:
MIN(VALUE:W[THIS-52]..VALUE:W[THIS])
was the way to go, but Improv doesn't allow "recurrence" within
functions.
Is there any way to do this in Improv?
-----
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me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
From: "Dan St.Andre" <saint@savantage.com>
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 18:29:52 -0500
Organization: Nu-Thena Systems, Inc.
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First, make sure that your base system hardware is working properly and that
you BIOS is as current as possible. Next, make sure that your add-in hardware
is working properly. Finally, make sure that you make your software run
correctly one at a time instead of all at once. Load win95 and work it, by
itself, and try to make it freeze. Add one program -- try to make that freeze.
When you find a sequence of steps that provokes the system freeze make detailed
notes. Come back to the net for help.
IMHO, many PC software developers come from the shaken-not-stirred school of
design.
Cordially,
Dan 0:-D
online wrote:
> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
> freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this program,
> by the way I'm using Windows 95.
From: ginz1@juno.com (ginz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP Problems
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 19:06:06 GMT
Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server
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I am also having this problem, and I have afew questions as follows:
>re: Permissions...
>If you don't log in when you turn on the machine, then you've not
>set a password for "Me" (At least, with 3.0, that I've got...)
I dont have to log on so is this my problem also?
>If you go into properties, and set a password, then log out, you should
>get the login prompt.
Forgive me for being and idiot, but how do I go to properties?
>That's when you log in as ROOT. The default user is "ME" with no
>dangerous permissions.
Could some please walk me through this? It is kind of hard doing all
this without any documentation and doing it all by trial and error.
Thanks in advance,
Carl... ginz1@juno.com
From: "Mike Rochford" <miker@easirun.co.za>
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 10:19:24 +0200
Organization: None at all !!!
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online wrote in message
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> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
>freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this program,
>by the way I'm using Windows 95.
>
From: kay@buddhist.com (Kay Schulz (The Bumpui))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang..java.gui
Subject: GNUStep and Java
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 01:26:00 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
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Hi
is there anyone out there thinking about programming the OpenStep API
in Java?
Is there anyone who build the look and feel og OpenStep using Java?
I mean the menues, the filebrowser?
I would love to have the possibility to have a Next-look and feel API
for Java
Kay Schulz
From: Robert Worne <rworne at primenet dot com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is it possible to play music CDs through a slab's speakers?
Date: 26 May 1998 21:51:00 -0700
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In <6kfd14$6sk$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> Ryan Scott wrote:
>
> As far as I know it is not possible to play CD audio through to the sound
> box. The only way is to use the outputs on the CDROM drive (either
> headphone or line out).
It certainly is possible, see:
http://www.this.net/~frank/download.html
Frank has some excellent apps there, one is "playsony" that pumps CD audio
over the SCSI Bus
> PS. It would be unpractical to try to put sound out on the SCSI, process
> it, and pass it on to the sound box.
And how. I hacked playsony to recognize my Sony drive, and the drive (4X)
pumps
the data off so fast, it's faster than the playback rate, so the buffered
data gets bigger
and bigger and bigger. It's not uncommon for the app to claim upwards of
40MB of
RAM, and once the machine starts paging, playback goes to hell. Lockups and
panics
soon follow.
If only there was a pair of RCA "line-in" jacks on the soundbox....
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From: Robert Worne <rworne at primenet dot com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Need *.ps -> *.gif converter
Date: 26 May 1998 22:15:01 -0700
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In <6k91je$lq9$1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote:
> I am trying to convert *.ps to *.gif images on my NeXT Cube.
>
> OmniImage can convert *.eps to *.gif, but it doesn't recognize *.ps.
> Some apps can output a *.eps image but a lot can't. However, all can
> output *.ps through Preview.app.
GSCorp had a utility called : eXTRATIFF, which outputs printer output to
a TIFF file of your specified DPI. The TIFF file can then be converted by
any application you wish.
As to where GSCorp is, and if they still sell this, is anyone's guess. It
does the
job quite nicely.
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From: "online" <online@pathcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: 27 May 1998 02:49:52 GMT
Organization: Pathway Communications
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I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this program,
by the way I'm using Windows 95.
From: Dave Eastabrook <news@elmbronze.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:05:17 +0100
Organization: Elmbronze Ltd
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on Wed, 27 May 1998 online <online@pathcom.com> wrote
> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
>freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this program,
>by the way I'm using Windows 95.
>
Try Tammie, it's one of the best I've come across. You'll find it on
the interknit somewhere. I believe it's by a company called "Tartan".
Demos will be made in front of a world-wide audience on the 10th June.
:Dave
(Don't know about Windows 95 but it'll work on World Cup 98, hopefully).
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From: todcar@earthlink.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Animo Training
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:58:27 +0000
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Looking for help in learning the Animo animation system from Cambridge
animation. I need an expert to walk me through 1-2 days of details I
have not yet mastered. Will pay. Please contact Todd Carlson at Pink Dot
Inc., 213- 964-0590. Or e-mail at todcar@earthlink.net
From: jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang..java.gui
Subject: Re: GNUStep and Java
Date: 27 May 1998 18:24:17 GMT
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Kay Schulz (The Bumpui) may or may not have said:
-> Hi
-> is there anyone out there thinking about programming the OpenStep API
-> in Java?
Yes, Apple.
-> Is there anyone who build the look and feel og OpenStep using Java?
-> I mean the menues, the filebrowser?
-> I would love to have the possibility to have a Next-look and feel API
-> for Java
I'm afraid you'd have to settle for the Mac Look and Feel.
-jcr
From: "Marcus" <mark_betts@compuware.com>
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: 27 May 1998 21:21:11 GMT
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Just so you know, Compuware bought NuMega so information on both products
can be obtained from www.compuware.com
\
regards,
Marcus
Don Magie <dmagie@pathcom.com> wrote in article
<01bd85f2$0f480580$781170d1@homeoffice>...
> There are a number of good programs to perform analysis of a system
> failure.
>
> You can try Compuware's Fault-XPERT (recently renamed to EcoSnap) which
can
> accomodate almost any GPF on most operating systems or NuMega
Technologies
> FailSafe which is only appropriate for VC++, VBasic or VJ++.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Don Magie
> dmagie@pathcom.com
>
> online <online@pathcom.com> wrote in article
> <01bd85d5$d87de720$102852d1@www.sa00bum.hellafax.com>...
> > I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
> > freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this
> program,
> > by the way I'm using Windows 95.
> >
> >
>
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is it possible to play music CDs through a slab's speakers?
Date: 27 May 1998 23:39:41 GMT
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In <6kg63k$n1q@nntp02.primenet.com> Robert Worne wrote:
> It certainly is possible, see:
> http://www.this.net/~frank/download.html
>
> Frank has some excellent apps there, one is "playsony" that pumps CD audio
> over the SCSI Bus
>
> > PS. It would be unpractical to try to put sound out on the SCSI, process
> > it, and pass it on to the sound box.
>
> And how. I hacked playsony to recognize my Sony drive, and the drive (4X)
> pumps
> the data off so fast, it's faster than the playback rate, so the buffered
> data gets bigger
> and bigger and bigger. It's not uncommon for the app to claim upwards of
> 40MB of
> RAM, and once the machine starts paging, playback goes to hell. Lockups and
> panics
> soon follow.
Yeah, you need to stop reading when the buffer becomes too full until it
empties again under some lowwater mark, overwise playsony will suck unlimited
memory. Just count the buffered frames and stop reading when this count gets
over (lets say)10 and restart when it has dropped under 3.
Usually this not a problem on the CD300 I run.
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From: paul buckley <pb141@columbia.edu>
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Subject: sendmail -q bus error
Date: 27 May 1998 22:06:52 GMT
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I installed the precompiled sendmail 8.8.8 and now when PopOver runs
sendmail -q there is a "bus error" message. It seems to work fine otherwise.
Permissions are correct and root gets the same response. I could compile it,
but anyone know if I'll get a different result?
From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period
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Subject: Re: sendmail -q bus error
Date: 27 May 1998 22:54:35 GMT
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Sendmail 8.8.8 has a bug which manifests itself if -q is the last argument.
There is a patch to fix it, but that would require recompiling. Version
8.9.0 is out and works well, I can send you the binary if you like. Or, I
can send you the 8.8.8 patch if you want to compile 8.8.8.
JP
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Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
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In <356B5070.EB2E036E@savantage.com> "Dan St.Andre" wrote:
> First, make sure that your base system hardware is working
properly and that
> you BIOS is as current as possible. Next, make sure that your add-in
hardware
> is working properly. Finally, make sure that you make your software
run
> correctly one at a time instead of all at once. Load win95 and work
it, by
> itself, and try to make it freeze. Add one program -- try to make
that freeze.
> When you find a sequence of steps that provokes the system freeze
make detailed
> notes. Come back to the net for help.
> IMHO, many PC software developers come from the
shaken-not-stirred school of
> design.
>
Just another data point. I was getting crashes with my Intel box
again. I thought
for sure it was the RAM. Turned out for reasons that I will not repeat
here
that I had my 2940UW card termination set to HIGH ON/LOW OFF. Yet
I only have 50pin devices on the internal cable. Everything seemed to
work ok until I would work the box heavily (getting it to swap)
I would get kernel panics etc. - only when I used up all of my 128 or
256MB
of RAM and would start another application while swapping - or after
swapping.
I think a good idea is to use an application like Tiffany (or any good
image
app) along with some other applications to eat up your RAM until you
just
start swapping. Then start a couple of apps simultaneously and see if
you get a kernel panic, or crashed apps. After I figured out the
SCSI goof
my system passes the above test quite nicely w/o kernel panics or
software crashes..
Also a note to Software Developers dealing with debugging reported
problems.
I'd guess you guys know this but the above symptoms were reproducible,
but
really were in the hardware not the application. Anyway, I suspect
the above test would ferret out many of the flaky hardware setups..
Randy
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From: "E. Woentz" <woentz@object-factory.com>
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Subject: Help wanted - DR2 boot
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:51:21 +0200
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Hi there,
is anyone out there who has tried to boot DR2 on a PowerMac w/ G3 card?
The problem seems to be the code that is written to the NVRAM (PRAM) by t=
he installer.
The installer detects a 604e machine, I assume by the generic machine num=
ber
(in ROM?) and so writes the wrong code.
I have a phase5 maccellerate750 which has a G3/300 on it.
Now I=B4d like to know which code has to be written to NVRAM and how to d=
o that.
DR2 installs the files in /usr/share/nvram/ where one can compare them to=
find
out that there are many differences between them.
Any idea how to solve the problem?
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From: iant@interpage.net (Ian Tait)
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Subject: Re: sendmail -q bus error
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On 27 May 1998 22:06:52 GMT, paul buckley <pb141@columbia.edu> wrote:
Try -q0
>I installed the precompiled sendmail 8.8.8 and now when PopOver runs
>sendmail -q there is a "bus error" message. It seems to work fine otherwise.
>Permissions are correct and root gets the same response. I could compile it,
>but anyone know if I'll get a different result?
>
From: "Lera" <darmedia@mail.wplus.net>
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Subject: Sony PlayStation
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:17:09 +0400
Organization: WEBplus
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Dear cÜp.
I ask you to send me the software for development Sony PlayStation of games
on PC.
I shall be grateful if can receive any information on the software allowing
to convert PC formats (*.bmp, *.avi, *.mpg.....) in a format Sony
PlayStation.
Thanks.
darmedia@mail.wplus.net
V.K.
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Improv -- big problem with min and max
Date: 28 May 1998 12:44:37 GMT
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I have a sheet of weekly data. I need to find the min and max of one
of the columns for the previous 52 weeks and I need to be able to do
this moving forward a week at a time. Improv cannot handle
"recurrence" in the min and max functions. I need to find another
way to do this. Any ideas?
Essentially, I want something that would work like this, assuming
Improv allowed it:
MINIMUM = MIN(VALUE:W[THIS-52]..VALUE:W[THIS])
I posted a similar message a couple of days ago. I probably should
wait a little longer before posting again, but I REALLY need to
figure this out ASAP.
Thanks,
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me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Timothy J Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid-address@luomat.peak.org>
Sender: luomat@luomat
Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:40:46 GMT
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FYI/FWIW I had a SCSI-chain termination problem that was causing ALL SORTS
of performance problems, including the pesky 'panic on reboot' problem
that I've had since October.
It actually worked very well most of the time, except under heavy use and
reboot.
All SCSI devices appear to be terminated when shipped from manufacturer
TjL
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Need *.ps -> *.gif converter
Date: 28 May 1998 09:57:58 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6kk52m$hla@slip.net>
References: <6k91je$lq9$1@dropit.pgh.net>
In article <6k91je$lq9$1@dropit.pgh.net>, <me@venetia.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>I am trying to convert *.ps to *.gif images on my NeXT Cube.
>
>OmniImage can convert *.eps to *.gif, but it doesn't recognize *.ps.
>Some apps can output a *.eps image but a lot can't. However, all can
>output *.ps through Preview.app.
For single images I view the ps file with Preview.app then use
Grab.app to capture as tiff, then use ToyViewer to convert to gif.
If you want a command line solution you must install netpbm then
convert ps to pbm then convert to jpg.
Emmett
From: PDGRAHAM@mail.delcoelect.com
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:00:21 -0500
Organization: Delphi Delco Electronics Systems
Message-ID: <356DB445.5F30399A@mail.delcoelect.com>
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Your PC could be locking up for a variety of reasons.
Resource conflicts is the biggest.. Look in device manager.
Another reason for "lockups" or "hangups" is when an application looks
for
something in a path that no longer exists..
And the list goes on and on..
I doubt if anyone is selling a single piece of Software that will
diagnose and fix all the potential PC ills
online wrote:
>
> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
> freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this program,
> by the way I'm using Windows 95.
From: Steve Dover <swd@strata-group.Xcom>
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anti-Freezing Software
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:17:59 -0500
Organization: Are you kidding?
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online wrote:
>
> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
> freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this program,
> by the way I'm using Windows 95.
Don't you know the plan by now?
It the old days, software worked correctly and you had time
to properly test, debug and correct.
Then the greed started, and software was developed with very
short delivery timeframes. Bugs were found, but then the
'workaround' was discovered.
Now, software is developed with totally unrealistic schedules,
and you end up with crap that muddles though but works better
with more hardware.
Bottom line today with Doze, buy lots of memory so you encounter
the memory leak induced crash less often. With enough memory,
you may be able to make it until the next day!
After Y2k, we will be back to the good old days.
--
Are you ready for year MM?
The Mother of all Messes.
582 Days to go.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Timothy J Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid-address@luomat.peak.org>
Sender: luomat@luomat
To: ginz <ginz1@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Fed Up With PPP!!!
In-Reply-To: <6kmodt$r63$1@eve.enteract.com>
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 17:56:26 GMT
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Have you checked out the PPP FAQ and mailing list?
cf http://www.peak.org/next/ppp/ ?
TjL
From: ginz1@juno.com (ginz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fed Up With PPP!!!
Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 16:26:09 GMT
Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server
Message-ID: <6kmodt$r63$1@eve.enteract.com>
Hi all,
I have Turbo Color Station running NS 3.3,
I have installed ppp 2.3 correctly according to the directions that
came with it. When I do a verbose boot ppp loads correctly.
I have installed Gatekeeper 2.1 and set that up following the
directions that came with that. When I dial into my ISP everything
seems fime but Gatekeeper Says connecting forever and the lights on
the modems transmit and receive L.E.D.'s keep flashing. So for kicks
I ran Omni Web anyway and was not able to connect to any websites.
I then tried pinging but had no luck their either. I am getting very
discouraged! I really want to get my slab online!
Will someone come to my rescue please!
Carl... ginz1@juno.com
From: "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Disk copy
Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 21:16:55 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6kqen7$feg$1@news.missouri.edu>
Dear Lady and Gentleman,
I have one simple question but I can't find the right action yet.
I'd like to make backup for a diskette on OPENSTEP. (See how simple it is).
For dos, just use "diskcopy" a: a:. What about OPENSTEP? I think I should
use "dd" but the manual of "dd" is describing too much details. what I want
is only making a copy of one disk to another. What command should I do?
hope to hear from you soon. thank you very much.
Your Sincerely,
--
Sarawoot Chittratanawat
c641625@showme.missouri.edu
Subject: Re: Disk copy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Message-ID: <1K3c1.855$ON2.6806807@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 03:01:17 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 20:01:17 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
dd is the answer, however I would recommend:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/disk/DiskCopyII.0.9beta.NI
.b.tar.gz
as an easier solution.
To use dd, cf
http://ent.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1561.htmld/1561.html
TjL
From: Robert Worne <rworne at primenet dot com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fed Up With PPP!!!
Date: 30 May 1998 22:23:02 -0700
Organization: I'm not organized... sorry...
Message-ID: <6kqpfm$t93@nntp02.primenet.com>
References: <6kmodt$r63$1@eve.enteract.com> <6ko935$obn@slip.net>
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In <2vXb1.844$ON2.6579936@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy Luoma wrote:
> On 05/29/98, Emmett McLean wrote:
>
> >You got a static IP from your ISP right?
>
> You absolutely positively do NOT need a static IP to use PPP.
No, no static IP needed at all. PPP works just fine.
It only has one feature I hate:
when running at 38400, and especially with OmniWeb, it loves to pop up
this cute little window, send a blur of hex numbers on it, and then it flips
a coin to
determine whether to reboot or not. Either way, I get a 20 min break in my
work
to go fetch a donut, or a snack of somesort while fsck runs.
I really wish this crasher would get squashed. Especially irritating is how
ppp
has to pump out errors onthe console, and if you are unlucky enough to have
it open,
the errors peg the cpu which cause more errors, until... whoops! another 20
min break!
Sometimes the connect string of the modem is enough to send it into a panic.
>:-(
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Subject: Re: Fed Up With PPP!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Message-ID: <hU5c1.863$ON2.6854745@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 05:28:45 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 22:28:45 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
Robert:
What version of PPP are you using?
I thought I had heard that the big PPP crasher bug had been
found... are you on the nextppp@peak.org mailing list?
TjL
From: Robert Worne <rworne at primenet dot com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is it possible to play music CDs through a slab's speakers?
Date: 30 May 1998 22:30:01 -0700
Organization: I'm not organized... sorry...
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References: <6ker84$omo@lace.colorado.edu> <6kfd14$6sk$1@mark.ucdavis.edu>
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In <6ki87t$m12$1@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> Yeah, you need to stop reading when the buffer becomes too full until it
> empties again under some lowwater mark, overwise playsony will suck
unlimited
> memory. Just count the buffered frames and stop reading when this count
gets
> over (lets say)10 and restart when it has dropped under 3.
>
> Usually this not a problem on the CD300 I run.
>
Any chance of a modified source to include this? Or a diff file? Low-level
SCSI scares
the bejeezus outta me. Then again, I can always look over the source again,
and hit
the books :-)
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <8873895982424@digifix.com>
Date: 31 May 1998 03:49:46 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3654896587219@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
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Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
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etc.) that may also be of interest.
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This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
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next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
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where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
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These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
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(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
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sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
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If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
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Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
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Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Disk copy
Message-ID: <1998053114002200.KAA12458@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 31 May 1998 14:00:22 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <1K3c1.855$ON2.6806807@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Hmm, regarding DiskCopy II beta...
Is this supported? Can it be made to run on OpenStep? (I tried it several times
and keep getting the same error message, something about device not available.)
As I recall, it had instructions to modify the file's privileges, but the group
to add was other when only others existed on my machine or vice versa.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Kaz@fid.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Password hacked 50892
Date: Sunday, 31 May 1998 04:22:24 -0600
Organization: eh254
Message-ID: <31059804.2224@fid.net>
The password details for
http://www.firewalluk.com/secure/systemdoor.htm
ps make sure your follow the log on procedures carefully or you will get in a loop.
If user1 is logged on try user2 or user3 etc with same password.
Name : user1
Password : kitten
KHQ
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Subject: Re: Fed Up With PPP!!!
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Message-ID: <XUec1.902$ON2.7035893@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 15:43:51 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 08:43:51 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
On 05/30/98, Timothy Luoma wrote:
>
>Robert:
>
> What version of PPP are you using?
>
> I thought I had heard that the big PPP crasher bug had been
>found... are you on the nextppp@peak.org mailing list?
Here's one old message from the list:
Begin forwarded message:
Message-Id: <199710011254.HAA03475@sidney.csc.ti.com>
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@netmass.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 97 07:54:22 -0500
To: nextppp@chinx1.thoughtport.com,
nextppp-announce@chinx1.thoughtport.com, nextppp@peak.org,
nextppp-announce@peak.org
Subject: Possible solution to kernel panics
Sender: owner-nextppp@peak.org
Hi all!
Good news! Axel Habermann <kiwi@nanan.demon.co.uk> has done an
excellent job
of sleuthing through the debug output of kernel panics. He has found
a bug
that can cause the kernel to panic when memory is allocated near the
beginning
of a page. He has sent in a patch and I have uploaded a new LKS that
includes
this patch. I suggest that all PPP users perform the following steps:
1) get:
<ftp://ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ppp/dev/ppp_reloc-0.
5.1
2) rename /usr/local/ppp/reloc/ppp_reloc to
/usr/local/ppp/reloc/ppp_reloc.orig
3) cp ppp_reloc-0.5.1 /usr/local/ppp/reloc/ppp_reloc
4) kill your PPP link
5) as user root execute:
kl_util -d ppp
kl_util -a /usr/local/ppp/reloc/ppp_reloc
If you have troubles with the new relocatable,
you can rename the original and redo step 5 to go
back to the old LKS.
I am days away from a major new release of PPP-2.3
and that is why I am not including all the source
etc. The next release will look more like a
normal distribution. I just wanted to get something
out as soon as possible.
Please let me know if this helps/hurts with panics.
Also, if you feel that it has helped your system
stability, fire off an email to Axel. If you ask
nicely, I'm sure he'll also give you his address
(just in case you were wanting to send him a small
bottle of single malt scotch or something ;).
Regards,
- Steve
---
Stephen J. Perkins
NetMass Communications, e-mail: perkins@netmass.com
NeXT PPP-2.3 info at: <http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: "OPENSTEP" <openstep@juno.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WTB: SoftPC for OPENSTEP
Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 11:37:48 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6ks16d$r5a$1@news.missouri.edu>
WTB: SoftPC for OPENSTEP
Want to buy SoftPC for OPENSTEP.
Please make me an offer.
Thank you very much.
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is it possible to play music CDs through a slab's speakers?
Date: 31 May 1998 19:12:19 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
Message-ID: <6ksa2j$6m2$1@news.seicom.net>
References: <6ker84$omo@lace.colorado.edu> <6kfd14$6sk$1@mark.ucdavis.edu>
<6kg63k$n1q@nntp02.primenet.com> <6ki87t$m12$1@news.seicom.net>
<6kqpsp$5o@nntp02.primenet.com>
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Cc: rworne at primenet dot com
In <6kqpsp$5o@nntp02.primenet.com> Robert Worne wrote:
> In <6ki87t$m12$1@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
>
> > Yeah, you need to stop reading when the buffer becomes too full until it
> > empties again under some lowwater mark, overwise playsony will suck
> unlimited
> > memory. Just count the buffered frames and stop reading when this count
> gets
> > over (lets say)10 and restart when it has dropped under 3.
> >
> > Usually this not a problem on the CD300 I run.
I put the source for a somewhat hacked-up version with GUI on this.net
http://www.this.net/~frank/PlayCD0.3b.tar.gz
This version gives a lot of SCSI warning in the console due to the use of the
sd driver. This seems to be harmless, however this was the reason I never
released it to public. So take it but keep this in mind.
--
* Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank
* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard
* "The answer is vi, what was your question...?"
From: rene limberger <rene.limberger@student.uni-halle.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep on SGI?
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 01:27:53 -0700
Organization: ---
Message-ID: <35726609.3264C0FF@student.uni-halle.de>
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Hi!
I am totaly new to next.
Is next/openstep available for sgi hardware?
For what hardware is it available?
Where can i find good information about this OS?
(screenshots?)
Thanks in advance
Rene
--
***************************************
* Renè Limberger *
* rene.limberger@student.uni-halle.de *
***************************************
From: PC4LessOnline
Subject: 200 MHZ PC's for less than $800
Message-ID: <ooVlVdUj9GA.112@cidintnews.infosel.com.mx>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 05:23:35 -0500
That's right 200MHZ PC's with Monitor for less than $800.
Check it out at http://www.pc4lessonline.com
Thanks
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Subject: Re: NeXT FTP Sites..????
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <cms-3105980152560001@209.26.71.138>
In-Reply-To: <cms-3105980152560001@209.26.71.138>
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Message-ID: <Y2Cc1.1222$ON2.7667078@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:04:40 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 11:04:40 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
On 05/30/98, cms wrote:
>
>Can anyone give me a few good Next FTP sites.. please
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/ aka
http://www.peak.org/next/
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/ aka
http://www.peanuts.org/
TjL
From: cms@macisp.net (cms)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT FTP Sites..????
Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 01:52:55 -0400
Organization: CMS
Message-ID: <cms-3105980152560001@209.26.71.138>
Can anyone give me a few good Next FTP sites.. please
10+Q
Rick
cms@macisp.net
email
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: British English dictionary for NeXTSTEP spelling
Date: 1 Jun 1998 18:28:56 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <896725465.520116@globe.uwaterloo.ca>
Cache-Post-Path: globe.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca
I'm sick of the spelling panel complaining about "organise" and "colour". I
don't want to add all of these myself. Any suggestions?
--
David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Subject: Re: British English dictionary for NeXTSTEP spelling
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <896725465.520116@globe.uwaterloo.ca>
In-Reply-To: <896725465.520116@globe.uwaterloo.ca>
From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Message-ID: <ijFc1.1228$ON2.7772885@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:46:54 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 14:46:54 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
On 06/01/98, David Evans wrote:
> I'm sick of the spelling panel complaining about "organise" and
> "colour". I don't want to add all of these myself. Any
> suggestions?
Start spelling them the right way ;-?
*TjL runs for cover*
Honestly, I don't know of any way to avoid it... there are
localizations for Spanish, French, etc but none for British.
Same problem I have with Webster that's really outdated now:
Spell: internet
Correction?
interne
internee
and so forth....
TjL
From: bob@columbia.uark.edu (Robert D. Bumpus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT FTP Sites..????
Date: 1 Jun 1998 19:15:13 GMT
Organization: The University of Arkansas
Message-ID: <6kuuk1$cef@picayune.uark.edu>
References: <cms-3105980152560001@209.26.71.138>
cms writes
>
> Can anyone give me a few good Next FTP sites.. please
>
> 10+Q
>
> Rick
>
> cms@macisp.net
>
> email
Try ftp.peanuts.org
From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT FTP Sites..????
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:40:26 -0400
Organization: Michigan State University
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On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Timothy Luoma wrote:
> On 05/30/98, cms wrote:
> >
> >Can anyone give me a few good Next FTP sites.. please
>
> ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/ aka
> http://www.peak.org/next/
>
> ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/ aka
> http://www.peanuts.org/
ftp.evolution.com is a US mirror of peanuts. In case you are in the US
Rudy
Subject: Re: NeXT FTP Sites..????
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <cms-3105980152560001@209.26.71.138> <Y2Cc1.1222$ON2.7667078@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.980601163905.13168A-100000@entropy6>
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From: nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org (Timothy Luoma)
Message-ID: <vmFc1.1229$ON2.7774497@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:50:19 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 14:50:19 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
On 06/01/98, "Rudolf B. Blazek" wrote:
> ftp.evolution.com is a US mirror of peanuts. In case you are in the
> US
Is it doing a better job of keeping the mirror current?
Seems like whenever I used to check it, it was behind by a significant
amount.
TjL
From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT FTP Sites..????
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:07:35 -0400
Organization: Michigan State University
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To: Timothy Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org>
In-Reply-To: <vmFc1.1229$ON2.7774497@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Timothy Luoma wrote:
> On 06/01/98, "Rudolf B. Blazek" wrote:
>
>
> > ftp.evolution.com is a US mirror of peanuts. In case you are in the
> > US
>
> Is it doing a better job of keeping the mirror current?
>
> Seems like whenever I used to check it, it was behind by a significant
> amount.
AFAIK the 1week and 2week folder are behind quite a bit, but the rest of
the archive seems synced ...
Rudy
---
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Michigan State University (NeXTmail, Sun, MIME compatible)
Statistics and Probability http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: British English dictionary for NeXTSTEP spelling
Date: 1 Jun 1998 23:21:28 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <896743017.615529@globe.uwaterloo.ca>
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In article <ijFc1.1228$ON2.7772885@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>,
Timothy Luoma <nospam+yes-this-is-a-valid_address@luomat.peak.org> wrote:
>
>Start spelling them the right way ;-?
>
Oh yeah. Right. I'll buy Dallas action figures first. :)
>Honestly, I don't know of any way to avoid it... there are
>localizations for Spanish, French, etc but none for British.
>
Hmmm. I'll investigate how the dictionaries are stored; I wonder if it's
just done with the Indexing Kit. If so it should be possible to manhandle
ispell's dictionary into an appropriate format.
Oh boy. Yet another project for my "copious spare time".
--
David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: ew65@bcs.org.uk (Robert Stonehouse)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv -- big problem with min and max
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 15:13:21 GMT
Message-ID: <3572b8f8.398535@news.cityscape.co.uk>
References: <6kjm7l$40h$1@dropit.pgh.net>
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote:
>I have a sheet of weekly data. I need to find the min and max of one
>of the columns for the previous 52 weeks and I need to be able to do
>this moving forward a week at a time. Improv cannot handle
>"recurrence" in the min and max functions. I need to find another
>way to do this. Any ideas?
>
>Essentially, I want something that would work like this, assuming
>Improv allowed it:
>
> MINIMUM = MIN(VALUE:W[THIS-52]..VALUE:W[THIS])
>
>I posted a similar message a couple of days ago. I probably should
>wait a little longer before posting again, but I REALLY need to
>figure this out ASAP.
In Improv for Windows (I do not know about NEXT) it is strictly
ranges, not functions, that will not accept recurrence or index
notation. So instead of using a range, you can enumerate the items.
Since you have 52 items, you then fall foul of the limit of 32 item
references on the right-hand side of a formula, and so you have to
introduce an intermediate result.The following works for me.
I have three items, 'Value' (taken from yours) 'Dummy MIN' (the
intermediate result) and 'Low52' (the 52 weeks' low value). The
formulae then are:
Dummy MIN:V[THIS] = min ( Value:V[THIS - 51], Value:V[THIS - 50],
Value:V[THIS - 49], Value:V[THIS - 48], Value:V[THIS - 47],
Value:V[THIS - 46], Value:V[THIS - 45], Value:V[THIS - 44],
Value:V[THIS - 43], Value:V[THIS - 42], Value:V[THIS - 41],
Value:V[THIS - 40], Value:V[THIS - 39], Value:V[THIS - 38],
Value:V[THIS - 37], Value:V[THIS - 36], Value:V[THIS - 35],
Value:V[THIS - 34], Value:V[THIS - 33], Value:V[THIS - 32],
Value:V[THIS - 31], Value:V[THIS - 30], Value:V[THIS - 29],
Value:V[THIS - 28], Value:V[THIS - 27], Value:V[THIS - 26],
Value:V[THIS - 25], Value:V[THIS - 24], Value:V[THIS - 23],
Value:V[THIS - 22] )
Low52:V[THIS] = if(isempty ( Dummy MIN:V[THIS]) ,"", min (
Value:V[THIS - 21], Value:V[THIS - 20], Value:V[THIS - 19],
Value:V[THIS - 18], Value:V[THIS - 17], Value:V[THIS - 16],
Value:V[THIS - 15], Value:V[THIS - 14], Value:V[THIS - 13],
Value:V[THIS - 12], Value:V[THIS - 11], Value:V[THIS - 10],
Value:V[THIS - 9], Value:V[THIS - 8], Value:V[THIS - 7],
Value:V[THIS - 6], Value:V[THIS - 5], Value:V[THIS - 4],
Value:V[THIS - 3], Value:V[THIS - 2], Value:V[THIS - 1],
Value:V[THIS],Dummy MIN:V[THIS] ) )
If you follow my item naming, you can copy and paste these. (You may
need to take out some hard carriage returns inserted in the course
of transmission.) If you rename the items afterwards, Improv will
change the formulae to fit. You could create MAX formulae simply by
pasting into some text editor and changing MIN to MAX globally - you
need to change Low52 to High52 (or whatever you choose) by hand.
This gives no result in the first 51 weeks. I assume you do not want
one, because a true 52-week low is not available anyway.
It may look inelegant compared with the Excel or 1-2-3 equivalent.
But bear in mind that in Excel or 1-2-3 you would have to deal with
the first 51 weeks somehow, and that the elegance of your formula
would be qualified by the need to have 2,000 copies of it!
ew65@bcs.org.uk
From: ew65@bcs.org.uk (Robert Stonehouse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Re: Improv -- Min/Max Functions
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 15:13:18 GMT
Message-ID: <3572b858.242713@news.cityscape.co.uk>
References: <6kfj7c$ade$1@dropit.pgh.net>
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote:
>I have a couple thousand rows of weekly information. I need to find
>the minimum and maximum value for an item during the past year. This
>is a moving value since each week the previous 52 weeks changes. I
>thought that something like:
>
> MIN(VALUE:W[THIS-52]..VALUE:W[THIS])
>
>was the way to go, but Improv doesn't allow "recurrence" within
>functions.
>Is there any way to do this in Improv?
In Improv for Windows (I do not know about NEXT) it is strictly
ranges, not functions, that will not accept recurrence or index
notation. So instead of using a range, you can enumerate the items.
Since you have 52 items, you then fall foul of the limit of 32 item
references on the right-hand side of a formula, and so you have to
introduce an intermediate result.The following works for me.
I have three items, 'Value' (taken from yours) 'Dummy MIN' (the
intermediate result) and 'Low52' (the 52 weeks' low value). The
formulae then are:
Dummy MIN:V[THIS] = min ( Value:V[THIS - 51], Value:V[THIS - 50],
Value:V[THIS - 49], Value:V[THIS - 48], Value:V[THIS - 47],
Value:V[THIS - 46], Value:V[THIS - 45], Value:V[THIS - 44],
Value:V[THIS - 43], Value:V[THIS - 42], Value:V[THIS - 41],
Value:V[THIS - 40], Value:V[THIS - 39], Value:V[THIS - 38],
Value:V[THIS - 37], Value:V[THIS - 36], Value:V[THIS - 35],
Value:V[THIS - 34], Value:V[THIS - 33], Value:V[THIS - 32],
Value:V[THIS - 31], Value:V[THIS - 30], Value:V[THIS - 29],
Value:V[THIS - 28], Value:V[THIS - 27], Value:V[THIS - 26],
Value:V[THIS - 25], Value:V[THIS - 24], Value:V[THIS - 23],
Value:V[THIS - 22] )
Low52:V[THIS] = if(isempty ( Dummy MIN:V[THIS]) ,"", min (
Value:V[THIS - 21], Value:V[THIS - 20], Value:V[THIS - 19],
Value:V[THIS - 18], Value:V[THIS - 17], Value:V[THIS - 16],
Value:V[THIS - 15], Value:V[THIS - 14], Value:V[THIS - 13],
Value:V[THIS - 12], Value:V[THIS - 11], Value:V[THIS - 10],
Value:V[THIS - 9], Value:V[THIS - 8], Value:V[THIS - 7],
Value:V[THIS - 6], Value:V[THIS - 5], Value:V[THIS - 4],
Value:V[THIS - 3], Value:V[THIS - 2], Value:V[THIS - 1],
Value:V[THIS],Dummy MIN:V[THIS] ) )
If you follow my item naming, you can copy and paste these. (You may
need to take out some hard carriage returns inserted in the course
of transmission.) If you rename the items afterwards, Improv will
change the formulae to fit. You could create MAX formulae simply by
pasting into some text editor and changing MIN to MAX globally - you
need to change Low52 to High52 (or whatever you choose) by hand.
This gives no result in the first 51 weeks. I assume you do not want
one, because a true 52-week low is not available anyway.
It may look inelegant compared with the Excel or 1-2-3 equivalent.
But bear in mind that in Excel or 1-2-3 you would have to deal with
the first 51 weeks somehow, and that the elegance of your formula
would be qualified by the need to have 2,000 copies of it!
ew65@bcs.org.uk
From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: British English dictionary for NeXTSTEP spelling
Date: 2 Jun 1998 12:28:20 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
Message-ID: <6l0r54$i74$1@leonie.object-factory.com>
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dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote:
> Hmmm. I'll investigate how the dictionaries are stored; I wonder if it's
> just done with the Indexing Kit. If so it should be possible to manhandle
> ispell's dictionary into an appropriate format.
There was some sort of package that used ispell as a backend for NeXT's
spelling system. At home I still have a German ispell installation which I
can use from all next apps. If you are interested I could try to find out
where I got it from.
regards,
erik
--
OBJECT FACTORY, Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH
Telephone: ++49 +231 9751370, Internet: http://www.object-factory.com
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: British English dictionary for NeXTSTEP spelling
Date: 2 Jun 1998 15:37:27 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
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In article <6l0r54$i74$1@leonie.object-factory.com>,
Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com> wrote:
>
>There was some sort of package that used ispell as a backend for NeXT's
>spelling system. At home I still have a German ispell installation which I
>can use from all next apps. If you are interested I could try to find out
>where I got it from.
>
Sure, that would be fantastic (posting here since I'm sure others are
interested in this too).
Thanks a lot.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: British English dictionary for NeXTSTEP spelling
Date: 2 Jun 1998 17:11:54 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
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David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
: I'm sick of the spelling panel complaining about "organise" and "colour". I
: don't want to add all of these myself. Any suggestions?
Try Ortho. You can get it from
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/NEXTSTEP/text/services/Ortho.*
From the README:
Ortho.US_English.1.NI.b.tar.gz
Ortho.UK_English.1.NI.b.tar.gz
Tar archives of 'Ortho.US_English.pkg' and 'Ortho.UK_English.pkg',
installer packages for the English versions of Ortho. Just use
'gunzip < Ortho.U?_English.1.NI.b.tar.gz | tar xvf -' in /tmp and
double click on the package. The dictionary is produced from the
ispell dictionaries and affix files. The original copyright notice
by Geoff Kuenning that accompanies the material, is reproduced at
the bottom of this file. Ispell and its dictionaries are available
from GNU and from ftp.cs.ucla.edu (131.179.128.34).
In general, the NeXT spell checker should be preferable to mine.
I made these two packages for people that have difficulties
with certain combinations of versions of OpenWrite and the
native OpenStep 4.x spell checker.
[ A source distribution has not yet been made. Watch for updates
if you are interested. ]
Good Luck and continue to enjoy NeXTstep,
Eberhard
From: smithw@tank (Dr. William V. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteNow files -> mac
Date: 02 Jun 1998 14:04:10 -0600
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <ygcbtsbfu4l.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me>
Running macOS8.1 on a g3 (on top of DR2). I have lots of writenow files
on my cube (running NS3.3). Is there WriteNow on the mac?
That is, a version that will read my WN files from the NeXT?
-Bill
--
Bill Smith, BYU mathematics dept. ph. 378-2061, fax 378-3703
email: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu, smithw@math.byu.edu
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: British English dictionary for NeXTSTEP spelling
Date: 2 Jun 1998 18:30:16 GMT
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In article <6l1boq$rca$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>,
Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
>
>Try Ortho.
OK. It seems to work fairly well. Is there a way to set it as my default
spelling dictionary? It's annoying to have to set it every time (but a lot
better than not having it at all!)
--
David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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Subject: Re: WriteNow files -> mac
Date: 3 Jun 1998 00:01:41 GMT
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In <ygcbtsbfu4l.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me> Dr.
William V. Smith wrote:
> Running macOS8.1 on a g3 (on top of DR2). I have lots of writenow files
> on my cube (running NS3.3). Is there WriteNow on the mac?
> That is, a version that will read my WN files from the NeXT?
> -Bill
>
Hey Bill,
If I remember correctly, you maybe be able to open Writenow files, with
Claris Works.
/=====================================/
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(NeXTMail,SUN,MIME)
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From: naatona@proaxis.com (MR. FATTUS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Complete Next Turbo Color Publishing System For Sale!!
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 17:39:51 +0100
Organization: AQUASPHERA
Message-ID: <naatona-0306981739520001@pr00-12.proaxis.net>
We must sell our beloved black ³baby² to raise funds for a new G3 system.
This is a very special mint condition NeXT Turbo Color Slab system with
all of the works. This machine is configured for high end publishing and
print work and is still very functional and cool. We would like to find a
new and caring home for this unique system. We prefer to sell this as a
complete system. Can ship to anywhere in the US. Asking Price
Below.............Check out the features................
HARDWARE:
Turbo Color Slab, one of the last off off the production line.
32 MB Ram, ABD mouse (the puck) and latest keyboard, Sound Box.
Sony 17² Monitor which is in great condition and still bright and sharp
NeXT 400 dpi printer with long cable, very low page count-needs new toner
cartridge.
Drives: Internal: Segate 250 megs for files
External: Large Andataco drive box with 1.5 meg. Micropolis SCSI, room to
add many drives, heavy duty fan. All SCSI cables. Ready to add Zip
disk...........
Zyzel 14.4 Modem with Null modem cable
SOFTWARE: NS 3.2 installed on Micropolis drive. Very Stable release.
Last release of Virtuoso (Next Freehand 5.0) which is still as good as any
design package out. Very stable and is set up with drivers for most
image setters and printers. Very reliable Postscript output. With disks
and manuals. Works seamlessly with Mac versions of Freehand and
Illustrator.
Appsoft Image 2.0 , a rare release of this Photoshop-like imaging app
which came from the developers themselves. Works well, have manuals too.
Great for Web graphics.........still does things no other imaging apps
can.
Address Blaster: Rare but cool address/contact manager with many killer
features
Special release from developer himself.
Wet Paint...........good paint app, with disks.
Paste-Up 1.5..............basic page layout
Illustrator for NS..........works fine...........good for opening Mac files
Pixel Wizard...........for all file conversions....rare registered copy.
Lots of Misc. graphics apps and utilities.
WordPerfect.........powerful WP, works well with Mac versions.
Appsoft Draw: Postscript Draw Program
Data Phile: Flat file database
Lots of cool apps loaded on system.
Trial versions of Tiffanyy II and Compose in Color too:
NX FAX, last version, rock solid FTP and faxing, fax from any app, NX fax
never crashes and can send 14.4 fast faxes: fast and works great.
EXTRA SCAN, scanner support for Epson ES600-800 series scanners (which can
be bought cheap!) This software was 400.00 new and is no longer
available. This is the coolest scanner software for NS. Rock solid way
to scan into your next. (My Es-800 Scanner now hooked up to Macs)
MetroTools 2.0, manager and launcher for NS. Nice utility/extension.
FONTS: This is where this system rocks...........it has been tweeked to
have over 350 fonts available through applications. Most fonts are Adobe
converted from Mac versions via Fontographer. Many third party fonts are
also resident including the best from The Fatted Calf CD ROM. For
design work you will love the font collection. You can add more fonts
too.....there seems to be no font limit. You can take any Mac font and
use Fontographer to create a Next version.....it works!
CD-ROMS: NS 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2..............Fatted Calf CD-ROM with apps,
images, and fonts. Other demo CD¹s too.
Will include some rare Next magazines........
This system is plug and play from my workstaion to yours........black is cool.
this is a well set up system, the best of NeXT..........
$1200.00 or best offer, we had $12,000 invested in hardware/software
Contact me via E-mail or call: Serious NeXT lovers only
Paul Natona Design
natona@proaxis.com
541-752-9661
Corvallis, Oregon
From: sheppard.gordon@relaynet.org (SHEPPARD GORDON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteNow files -> mac
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 98 20:38:00 -0400
Organization: RelayNet, Brooklyn, NY (718) 692-2498
Distribution: World
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On 06/02/98, DR WILLIAM V SMITH wrote:
DS> Running macOS8.1 on a g3 (on top of DR2). I have lots
DS> of writenow files on my cube (running NS3.3).
I have the latest -- and last -- version of WriteNow for the Mac (v. 4.0.2),
copyright 1994. It is still the fastest word processor for the Mac. The
Learning Company owns the product now, but they do not sell or distribute it.
A pity.
DS> That is, a version that will read my WN files from the
DS> NeXT?
I've never tried opening a NeXT/WriteNow document, sorry.
DS> Bill Smith, BYU mathematics dept. ph. 378-2061, fax
DS> 378-3703
If you're going to post around the world and list your phone number, it
wouldn't hurt to include your area code.
Salut!
-> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is.
From: "pipi" <pipi@hknet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: s/n of adobe software(win)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:36:15 +0800
Message-ID: <3574f05e.0@ruby.hknet.com>
could anyone please tell me the serial no. of:
photoshop4.0;pagemaker6.52;illustrator7.0;
dimension3.0.(all english version)
please help!
From: nospam+nospam+nospam+this+works@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: s/n of adobe software(win)
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In <3574f05e.0@ruby.hknet.com> "pipi" wrote:
> could anyone please tell me the serial no. of:
> photoshop4.0;pagemaker6.52;illustrator7.0;
> dimension3.0.(all english version)
> please help!
42.
You shouldn't have much trouble finding illegal software in Hong Kong....
TjL
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Subject: Re: British English dictionary for NeXTSTEP spelling
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35751745.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 3 Jun 98 09:28:37 GMT
dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote:
>In article <6l1boq$rca$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>,
>Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
>>
>>Try Ortho.
>
> OK. It seems to work fairly well. Is there a way to set it as my default
>spelling dictionary? It's annoying to have to set it every time (but a lot
>better than not having it at all!)
The German (Ortho) package was always the default for me after using it the
first time. I have also got the British English, etc installed. I did never
do anything for this behaviour (remark the ou :-) ) in NS3.3.
greets
Sven
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep on SGI?
References: <35726609.3264C0FF@student.uni-halle.de>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <357518eb.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 3 Jun 98 09:35:39 GMT
rene limberger <rene.limberger@student.uni-halle.de> wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I am totaly new to next.
>Is next/openstep available for sgi hardware?
>For what hardware is it available?
>Where can i find good information about this OS?
>(screenshots?)
---snip---
Only for m68k (NeXTs), intel (>486), sparc (Sparc 4, Sparc 5, Sparc 10, Sparc
20, no Ultra or beyond), hp (not to old and not to new, never see one running
NeXTstep).
There was a thread about Rhapsody on SGI, but I did not follow it, cause with
Rhapsody dropping intel Apple will not support SGI (IMHO).
Information on NeXT can be found on
http://www3.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/
http://peanuts.leo.org/
http://www.radical.com/
http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat/next/
http://www.stepwise.com/
http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT/NeXT.html
http://www.vamp.org/NeXT/
...
Sven
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From: Samuel Boivin <Samuel.Boivin@inria.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Bad Size for a 2GB HD on Cube
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 11:51:51 +0200
Organization: I.N.R.I.A.
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Hi everybody,
Here is my problem, that has already been resolved, but I can't remember
where ?!?
I bought a Quantum 2GB Hard Disk Drive for my NeXT Cube(040/25/NS3.3),
and it is well recognized.
During boot, it is identified as a 2051MB Disk. When I use 'BuildDisk'
to build it, it seems to be OK: the disk is identified as a 2051MB Disk
and is correctly constructed(I mean: no error during construction).
But the problem is: if I look at my Workspace, I can see: 840MB free
!!! The disk is recognized as a 1GB !! This is confirmed by: if I use
'df /dev/rsd1a' under Terminal.app, it gives a size of 1GB, 160MB
occuppied, 16%full, etc...
So my questions is the following: How to force my cube to correctly
initialize my 2GB HD, in order to use it under Workspace or
Terminall.app as a REAL 2GB Hard Disk drive ?
Thank you for your future help !!
Sam.
PS: I tried to build 2 partitions of 1GB, but nothing changed ! I only
have ONE 1GB partition and I can't find the second !! Where is it ?
--
||===================================================================||
|| Samuel Boivin ||
|| I.N.R.I.A - Rocquencourt ||
|| Tel: 01-39-63-51-86 Fax: 01-39-63-57-71 ||
|| http://www-syntim.inria.fr/syntim/recherche/boivin/index-eng.html ||
||===================================================================||
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From: Marco van Hylckama Vlieg <marco@bananenbar.to.utwente.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FreeBSD next to OPENSTEP
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 17:10:56 -0700
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Hello all,
I have a system with OPENSTEP 4.2 on the first partition of my
harddrive. On the second
one there's currently Linux. However I want to install FreeBSD on that
partition.
Can anyone tell me if this will hurt the OPENSTEP partition? How will
I be able to
boot OPENSTEP when the FreeBSD has overwritten the master boot record?
Thanks in advance,
Marco
--
UNOX: The worst Operating System.
Marco van Hylckama Vlieg
TOlab L207b
hylckama@edte.utwente.nl
From: Pascal Bourguignon <pbourgui@afaa.asso.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteNow files -> mac
Date: 3 Jun 1998 18:16:28 GMT
Organization: ImagiNET
Message-ID: <6l43ts$j76$4@news.imaginet.fr>
References: <ygcbtsbfu4l.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me>
smithw@tank (Dr. William V. Smith) wrote:
>Running macOS8.1 on a g3 (on top of DR2). I have lots of writenow files
>on my cube (running NS3.3). Is there WriteNow on the mac?
>That is, a version that will read my WN files from the NeXT?
>-Bill
>--
>Bill Smith, BYU mathematics dept. ph. 378-2061, fax 378-3703
>email: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu, smithw@math.byu.edu
WriteNow 3.0 can read WriteNow NeXT documents.
However, non-ASCII characters are not converted, and graphics are lost.
WriteNow 2 should be able to read NeXT documents too.
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ | The box said: 'Requires Windows 95 & Pentium,
mailto:pjb@imaginet.fr | or better.' So I bought a Macintosh & PowerPC.
From: jsd@xoxo.gnyg.com (J. DuBois
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: OPENSTEP Advocates in the Appleton, WI?
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Date: 3 Jun 1998 18:56:23 GMT
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Keywords: OPENSTEP 4.2, Wisconsin, Appleton, NEXTSTEP
NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
Hello Folks!
I am looking to make contact with anyone in the Appleton, WI area who uses
OPENSTEP 4.2 and is familiar with installing this on a 2.1 GB or so hard
drive. I am new to the area.
Direct responses are appreciated but you must first remove the "xoxo" which
is meant to avoids spammers.
Kind Regards,
J. DuBois
jsd@xoxo.gnyg.com
From: nospam+nospam+nospam+this+works@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 19:56:42 GMT
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In <357518eb.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Sven Droll wrote:
> Information on NeXT can be found on
>
> http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat/next/
FYI that URL will now redirect you to ``http://www.peak.org/~luomat/'' as I
have redone all my pages (basically I got rid of all the outdated personal
information and just kept the NeXT stuff which is what I kept up to date with
anyway
TjL
ps -- www.next.peak.org and www.peak.org are the same machine.
From: char@c-horse.com (Charlotte Crothers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Drivers for HP DeskJet
Organization: C-Horse Design
Message-ID: <357605a9.19590655@news.chesco.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 02:24:29 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 22:24:29 EDT
Does anyone know where I can find drivers for a HP DeskJet 720?
TIA
From: nospam+nospam+nospam+this+works@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Bad Size for a 2GB HD on Cube
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 18:37:25 GMT
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
This is not really a software problem, and certainly not a programmer
problem.
Followups set appro.
In <35751CB7.FDFB0BBC@inria.fr> Samuel Boivin wrote:
> During boot, it is identified as a 2051MB Disk. When I use 'BuildDisk'
> to build it, it seems to be OK: the disk is identified as a 2051MB Disk
> and is correctly constructed(I mean: no error during construction).
> But the problem is: if I look at my Workspace, I can see: 840MB free
> !!! The disk is recognized as a 1GB !! This is confirmed by: if I use
> 'df /dev/rsd1a' under Terminal.app, it gives a size of 1GB, 160MB
> occuppied, 16%full, etc...
This makes me think that it was made into two partitions of 1gig each.
I still believe that 2047mb is as much as you can get on one partition.
Anyway, the second partition may not have been mounted.
Try this:
/etc/mount -t 4.3 -o rw,noquota /dev/sd1b /Partition2
Note: the sd1b might be different.... the 'sd1' part should be OK, but the
letter might even be "h"
If you get it to work, you'll need to edit /etc/fstab to automount the other
partition something like this:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /Partition1 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
/dev/sd1b /Partition2 4.3 rw,noquota 0 3
Note that the sd1b should be the same as whatever you used with the mount
command above.
I'm also assuming you have an sd0a which is your regular boot drive that you
used to Build this new drive
> PS: I tried to build 2 partitions of 1GB, but nothing changed ! I only
> have ONE 1GB partition and I can't find the second !! Where is it ?
Same problem as above, it may just need to be mounted by hand and then have
the entry added to /etc/fstab
TjL
From: "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can't login
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 00:58:39 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6l5d69$qma$1@news.missouri.edu>
Hello:
I tried to use SimpleNetworkStartup on OPENSTEP4.2 on black machine.
Infact, just wanna play around... Then, NeXT forces me to reboot the
machine.. it's fine with me.
After the machine reboots, NeXT asks me to select the language.???? Why?
Ok... it is still fine with me.
Then, here you go.. NeXT asks me to enter login name, the login screen.
I used my previous account to login, me and password leaves blank. NeXT
doesn't allow me to enter. I used root and password leaves blank, NeXT
still doesn't answer.
Hence, I can not login to NeXT and I can not use NeXT since then.
What should I do now? I have no idea what's going on or overrule the
login screen. What I want is only connect NeXT to my PC as peer-to-peer
network to share files. Why is so hectic? Any recommendation to login,
overrule login screen and simple peer-to-peer network to PC are always
welcome. Please help me out.
Thank you very much.
Your Sincerely,
Sarawoot
From: nospam+nospam+nospam+this+works@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can't login
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In <6l5d69$qma$1@news.missouri.edu> "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" wrote:
> I tried to use SimpleNetworkStartup on OPENSTEP4.2 on black machine.
> Infact, just wanna play around... Then, NeXT forces me to reboot the
> machine.. it's fine with me.
ACK!
A) Do not play around with a working machine
B) NEVER ever play around with SimpleNetworkStarter
> What should I do now? I have no idea what's going on or overrule the
> login screen.
You will have to go to the ROM monitor and type
bsd -s
to boot to single user mode. When you get to the # prompt, type
(NOTE: This will cause the loss of all username/Netinfo information... Your
files will still be there, you will just have to recreate the username, etc)
cd /etc
rm -rf hostconfig netinfo
cd /usr/template/client/etc
cp -rp hostconfig netinfo /etc
then do command+command+~
Select halt
type 'm' for monitor
at the NeXT prompt type bsd
That should do it.
Don't play around with /NextAdmin applications! You can do very bad things
with them!
TjL
From: Samuel Boivin <Samuel.Boivin@inria.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Bad Size for a 2GB HD on Cube
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 12:28:17 +0200
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To: Timothy J Luoma <nospam+nospam+nospam+this+works@luomat.peak.org>
CC: Samuel.Boivin@inria.fr
Timothy J Luoma wrote:
>
> POSTED TO USENET GROUP(S): comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
>
> NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
>
> This is not really a software problem, and certainly not a programmer
> problem.
In my opinion, everything that stops you in your programmation under
NeXTStep is a NeXT-programmer-problem... A programmer problem is not
necessarly a pure code problem. Moreover, the best answers to a problem
generally come from NeXT programmers...
This could be a NeXT-software-problem since the reason coulde be a bad
NS3.3 installation... for example.
But I will remember your remarks for NeXT time ;-).
> This makes me think that it was made into two partitions of 1gig each.
> I still believe that 2047mb is as much as you can get on one partition.
In fact, I just found the answer to my problem yesterday, after
re-reading the 'NeXT Answers'... and you are right.
NeXT Cube does not accept partitions bigger than 2047MB. Then I created
two: 2026MB and 25 MB (apparently the smallest that you can create), and
it works, except I didn't manage to mount the second (?).
> Anyway, the second partition may not have been mounted.
> /etc/mount -t 4.3 -o rw,noquota /dev/sd1b /Partition2
I tried this: /etc/mount /dev/sd1b /HD3
It gave:
I/O ERROR.
> Note: the sd1b might be different.... the 'sd1' part should be OK, but the
> letter might even be "h"
OK, I will try this.
> If you get it to work, you'll need to edit /etc/fstab to automount the other
> partition something like this:
> /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
> /dev/sd1a /Partition1 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
> /dev/sd1b /Partition2 4.3 rw,noquota 0 3
I already did that, except the last line, since I don't manage to mount
the second partition manually.
> I'm also assuming you have an sd0a which is your regular boot drive that you
> used to Build this new drive
Yes, it is.
Thank you very much for your answers. It will certainly help me to
finish the job and to mount the second partition correctly.
Thank you again,
Samuel.
From: Marco van Hylckama Vlieg <marco@bananenbar.to.utwente.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can't login
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 12:39:10 -0700
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Sarawoot Chittratanawat wrote:
> Hello:
> I tried to use SimpleNetworkStartup on OPENSTEP4.2 on black machine.
> Infact, just wanna play around... Then, NeXT forces me to reboot the
> machine.. it's fine with me.
> After the machine reboots, NeXT asks me to select the language.???? Why?
> Ok... it is still fine with me.
> Then, here you go.. NeXT asks me to enter login name, the login screen.
> I used my previous account to login, me and password leaves blank. NeXT
> doesn't allow me to enter. I used root and password leaves blank, NeXT
> still doesn't answer.
> Hence, I can not login to NeXT and I can not use NeXT since then.
> What should I do now? I have no idea what's going on or overrule the
> login screen. What I want is only connect NeXT to my PC as peer-to-peer
> network to share files. Why is so hectic? Any recommendation to login,
> overrule login screen and simple peer-to-peer network to PC are always
> welcome. Please help me out.
> Thank you very much.
> Your Sincerely,
> Sarawoot
My Roommate had the exact same thing on OPENSTEP 4.2 on a PC.
Eventually he re-installed OPENSTEP since there was no way to log on anymore.
It seemed like it had 'forgotten' about the root-account as well as all user
accounts.
We even tried the procedure in NeXTanswers which said something like you had to
boot into
single usermode and then use a command to reset the root password (sorry, I
forgot what the command
was) but it really didn't know the root user anymore :(
I'd also like to know what this is!
Marco
--
UNOX: The worst Operating System.
Marco van Hylckama Vlieg
TOlab L207b
hylckama@edte.utwente.nl
From: "Devid Espenschied" <d.espe@berlin.snafu.de>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.shareware,alt.binaries.shareware.ibm.pc,alt.comp.shareware,alt.comp.software.tools,alt.med.software,blindnet.software.tools,chile.binarios.software,comp.sys.next.software,de.comm.software.misc,de.comp.sys.ibm-pc,fido.ger.shareware
Subject: PC Analyse und Benchmarkprogramm
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:09:40 +0200
Organization: Unlimited Surprise Systems, Berlin
Message-ID: <6l66gb$h06$1@unlisys.unlisys.net>
Hallo,
unter www.snafu.de/~sven.bergemann könnt Ihr euch ein gutes Systemanalyse
und Benchmarkprogramm namens PC Analyser 1.91 anschauen, welches
umfangreiche Systeminterna anzeigt sowie einzelne Komponenten benchmarkt.
Das Programm wird in deutsch und als Shareware vertrieben.
Außerdem suchen wir noch Betatester - als Dank gibt es Vergünstigungen bei
der Bestellung bzw. beim Update.
Tschüß
Devid Espenschied
From: "Don Magie" <dmagie@pathcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Try NuMega FailSafe or Compuware Fault-Xpert
Date: 4 Jun 1998 14:09:27 GMT
Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User
Message-ID: <01bd8fc2$94b8ac40$928916ac@to8600tmh.compuware.com>
References: <01bd85e9$37252fa0$102852d1@www.sa00bum.hellafax.com>
Either of the above tools will keep your machine from going down hard and
will gather *ALL* of the machine, application, file, etc. information from
the system and keep it so you can debug and hopefully control these events
in the future.
The products have internet and paging support for remote failure
notification.
See www.numega.com or www.compuware.com
Regards,
Don Magie.
online <online@pathcom.com> wrote in article
<01bd85e9$37252fa0$102852d1@www.sa00bum.hellafax.com>...
> I would like to know which software is the best to prevent my PC from
> freezing and I would also like to know if there is a demo for this
program,
> by the way I'm using Windows 95.
>
>
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From: kurt@caliban.smeggin.org (Kurt Werle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Drivers for HP DeskJet
Date: 4 Jun 1998 08:58:27 -0700
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In article <357605a9.19590655@news.chesco.com>,
Charlotte Crothers <char@c-horse.com> wrote:
>Does anyone know where I can find drivers for a HP DeskJet 720?
In general, the "drivers" for any raster printer (non PS pritner) are
limited to 2-3 choices. There are 1-2 commercial drivers, and there is
GhostScript. I believe there is a nice package for GhostScript that should
work for anything pre-DR2 on the archives.
(it would help is you'd said what release you're using...)
Kurt
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From: "Zack Taylor" <zack@blackeye.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted: Virtuoso / Illustrator
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 10:20:08 -0400
Organization: Black Eye Design
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I don't have a lot of money kicking around, but I would very much like to
find copies of Virtuoso and Illustrator for NeXT. I'm a graphic designer
who's come into posession of a NeXTstation TurboColor and I really just want
to play around.
Zack Taylor
> > > mail from:
Zack Taylor, Designer
Black Eye Design
1030 rue St.-Alexandre, suite 710
Montreal, Quebec
Canada H2Z 1P3
E > zack@blackeye.com
From: Marco van Hylckama Vlieg <marco@bananenbar.to.utwente.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Notebook.app ???
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 18:36:22 -0700
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Hi all,
On this page:
http://www3.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/
there's a really nifty notebook application being discussed.
The page however does not provide any info on where one could get it.
Does anyone know if this application is available anywhere on the net?
(OS4.2 Intel)
Thanks in advance!
Marco
--
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Marco van Hylckama Vlieg
TOlab L207b
hylckama@edte.utwente.nl
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Notebook.app ???
Date: 4 Jun 1998 17:42:16 GMT
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In <35774B96.D7FD9BB5@bananenbar.to.utwente.nl> Marco van Hylckama Vlieg
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On this page:
>
> http://www3.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/
>
> there's a really nifty notebook application being discussed.
> The page however does not provide any info on where one could get it.
> Does anyone know if this application is available anywhere on the net?
> (OS4.2 Intel)
Millenium Software left the NeXT market quite a while ago. I am not aware
Notebook.app is available anywhere these days.
I really would like to see more NeXT-give-ups to post their software as
freeware (free usage, they can maintain the copyright) for the people who
stay behind (like Lighthouse did). But of course it is their decision...
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From: Michel Coste <nospam@micmac.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: VarioBuilder (was: need simple data base app)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:26:59 GMT
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This was written in comp.sys.next.software
(<1998042020044300.QAA13648@ladder01.news.aol.com>) by WillAdams:
> Well, VarioData, a Lighthouse Design application is freely licensed in
places
> other than Asia. The application (and VarioBuilder) are available on Peak.
>
Does that mean that VarioBuilder is still sold in Asia?
Are any chances _then_ that it will be ported to Rhapsody?
I happen to appreciate many features of Variodata/VarioBuilder!!!
What a regret is absence of multi-layouts... (and evidently relational
capabilities...)
Another interesting feature is the ability to connect to SQL databases!
By the way does someone know how to connect to OpenBase?
mc
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Notebook.app ???
Message-ID: <1998060419293400.PAA02778@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 04 Jun 1998 19:29:34 GMT
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Not only did Millenium leave the market, they've also left high and dry their
users since their software was copy-protected.
I think Notebook.app is fabulous, but couldn't rely on it since I knew I
wouldn't be able to move the app from my Cube to my ThinkPad assuming that one
day I manage to get OpenStep installed on it.
Given how bad the Win95 interface is, it seems to me that someone could make a
fortune doing a Win32 version of Engage.app!
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: s/n of adobe software(win)
Message-ID: <1998060415315500.LAA11093@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 04 Jun 1998 15:31:55 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <so6d1.30$BE5.263614@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Actually, the PRC has been rather good by report at cracking down on illegal
sale of intellectual property.
Some people have cynically claimed that it's being done as an example to the
honest citizenry to keep them in line...
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: nospam+nospam+nospam+this+works@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Bad Size for a 2GB HD on Cube
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
In <357676C1.60EC08E4@inria.fr> Samuel Boivin wrote:
> Timothy J Luoma wrote:
> >
> > POSTED TO USENET GROUP(S):
> > comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
> >
> > NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
> >
> > This is not really a software problem, and certainly not a programmer
> > problem.
>
> In my opinion, everything that stops you in your programmation under
> NeXTStep is a NeXT-programmer-problem...
a) You should not ignore the Followups-To setting when replying to a post
b) beyond your opinion, there is a list of guidelines which have been used in
the NeXT community for years based on the charters for the groups. It can be
found here:
http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html
In it you will find brief summaries for the groups, including
[9]comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
So csn.programmer is for programmers to discuss programming issues, and
formatting a HD is not a programmer issue.
Crossposting is generally looked down upon, especially without use of a
Followups-To line. The groups are low volume enough that a post to one group
will not be lost.
> A programmer problem is not necessarly a pure code problem.
But the programmer group is not the right group for what comes down to a
hardware (or probably better, sysadmin) question
> Moreover, the best answers to a problem generally come from NeXT
programmers...
So we should all post all our questions to csn.programmer ? I daresay that
would not be well accepted by those who are trying to use the groups for its
stated purpose of programming issues, not just because these are the folks
who really know their stuff.
> This could be a NeXT-software-problem since the reason coulde be a bad
> NS3.3 installation... for example.
Possibly, but I still tent to think that csn.sysadmin would have been a
better choice.
> But I will remember your remarks for NeXT time ;-).
Thanks... it will save bandwidth worldwide ;-)
> > This makes me think that it was made into two partitions of 1gig each.
> > I still believe that 2047mb is as much as you can get on one partition.
>
> In fact, I just found the answer to my problem yesterday, after
> re-reading the 'NeXT Answers'... and you are right.
> NeXT Cube does not accept partitions bigger than 2047MB. Then I created
> two: 2026MB and 25 MB (apparently the smallest that you can create), and
> it works, except I didn't manage to mount the second (?).
I would try '/dev/sd1h' as the name for the second partition....
Actually, I wonder if it needs to be formatted somehow before being ready to
be mounted?
Perhaps someone else will know the answer to that one.
TjL
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: VarioBuilder (was: need simple data base app)
Message-ID: <1998060419314000.PAA28717@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 04 Jun 1998 19:31:40 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
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It's my understanding that the Asian company still selling the Lighthouse apps
is only licensed to sell and has no rights to the source code, which still
rests with Lighthouse Design/Sun.
Anyone hear the rumour about Claris trying to buy the code for the Lighthouse
Design suite?
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: mlbland@enterprise.net (Mick Bland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help wanted with Next 1200
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 19:23:45 GMT
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I have a Next 1200 that I purchased from a sale, it starts up and
checks the system and then it says loading from network and hangs. Any
help would be much appreciated. I have no disks or information about
it.
Regards,
Mick.
mlbland@enterprise.net
From: cms@macisp.net (cms)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help need with CAPer..@@@@#
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 23:34:26 -0400
Organization: CMS
Message-ID: <cms-0406982334310001@209.26.71.138>
We just install it V8 version for Next 3.3
The install part went good.
We did do a test print to the Mac printer on ethernet network.
But, we are not clear on the following:
So, we went to our MailAPP to print email.. then it said printer not choosen
select print.. ( now I thought CAPer selected the Mac on the Apple Network?? )
It didn't. We went to the PrintManager.APP and there was only the LocalPrinter
Next.. ( which we don't have )
is there something else to setup..?/
Rick
please email:: cms@macisp.net
Thanks
From: <cdt@accubillingsystems.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 23:52:33 PST
Subject: Spy on your competition then blow them out of site
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From: "Andre Lalonde" <info@scribex.com>
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You should definitely take a look at SuperDraw4.
See: http://www.scribex.com/English/index.html
Andre
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Zack Taylor wrote in message <6l6adi$hge$1@news.interlink.net>...
>I don't have a lot of money kicking around, but I would very much
like to
>find copies of Virtuoso and Illustrator for NeXT. I'm a graphic
designer
>who's come into posession of a NeXTstation TurboColor and I really
just want
>to play around.
>
>Zack Taylor
>
>
>> > > mail from:
>Zack Taylor, Designer
>Black Eye Design
>1030 rue St.-Alexandre, suite 710
>Montreal, Quebec
>Canada H2Z 1P3
>E > zack@blackeye.com
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Virtuoso / Illustrator
Message-ID: <1998060515505100.LAA11797@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 05 Jun 1998 15:50:51 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <9cOd1.26$tg6.700748@wagner.videotron.net>
Virtuoso is rather hard to come by I'm afraid, while Illustrator 3, even on the
NeXT is so outdated as to approach uselessness.
SuperDraw is arguably more up-to-date and may be suitable (don't know, haven't
tried it), but the only other alternative, (and this one is supported) is Stone
Design's Create. Check to see if they're still having the $199 sale with their
3d and accounting packages? thrown in.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help need with CAPer..@@@@#
Date: 5 Jun 1998 12:47:12 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
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In <cms-0406982334310001@209.26.71.138> cms wrote:
>
> We just install it V8 version for Next 3.3
> The install part went good.
>
> We did do a test print to the Mac printer on ethernet network.
>
> But, we are not clear on the following:
>
> So, we went to our MailAPP to print email.. then it said printer not
choosen
> select print.. ( now I thought CAPer selected the Mac on the Apple
Network?? )
>
> It didn't. We went to the PrintManager.APP and there was only the
LocalPrinter
> Next.. ( which we don't have )
>
> is there something else to setup..?/
Yep, you need to follow the manual and create a 'dummy' printer, then use
CAPer to 'connect' the printer queue to its Appletalk Entity Name in the
Chooser Panel.
--
* Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank
* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard
* "The answer is vi, what was your question...?"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help:OPENSTEP & Cable Modems?
From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com>
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <35787652.0@206.25.228.5>
Date: 5 Jun 98 22:50:58 GMT
Has anyone gotten hooked up to the net via a Cable TV hookup? I know that
they plug a cable modem into your ethernet card. Beyond that I'm not sure
how it works. I want to try it, but before I do, I'd like to make sure it
can be done.
Is it as simple as setting up a resolv.conf file and enabling the ehternet
card?
Any clues, help, reassurance that this works would be most welcome. I'll
be able to drop a line, a provider, save some money, and increase
bandwidth. Mucho kewl if I can get this to work.
Thanks for any help. :)
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From: nospam+nospam+nospam+this+works@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help:OPENSTEP & Cable Modems?
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<shame mode>
John John John... a crossposted FAQ? shame shame
</shame>
Yes, actually this can be done... today marks 1 YEAR since I got my cable
modem.
It is easiest if they don't use DHCP..... or if they use DHCP but give you
the same IP each time you login (functionally static).
I wrote an article on setting this up
http://www.peak.org/~luomat/articles/cablemodems
TjL
ps -- I know, the thrill of the speed made you temporarily loco ;-)
From: John Zollinger <john.zollinger@arkona.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Notebook.app ???
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:31:40 -0600
Organization: Arkona, Inc.
Message-ID: <35781D6C.794AA30B@arkona.com>
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CC: vrobi@ddrummer.com
Marco van Hylckama Vlieg wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On this page:
>
> http://www3.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/
>
> there's a really nifty notebook application being discussed.
> The page however does not provide any info on where one could get it.
> Does anyone know if this application is available anywhere on the net?
> (OS4.2 Intel)
I saw a version of this app at a project I worked on some years back.
Robert Vasvari (vrobi@ddrummer.com) did the work on it, and perhaps he
might know if it is available anywhere. It was a pretty cool app, and I
wouldn't mind having it again... :-)
John Zollinger
VP Engineering
Arkona, Inc.
john.zollinger@arkona.com
From: wrs@mailcity.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 21:00:37 PDT
Subject: Need Planogram Enhancement?
Message-ID: <357894a0.0@lightning.ica.net>
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From: xray@cs.brandeis.edu (Nathan G. Raymond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help:OPENSTEP & Cable Modems?
Date: 6 Jun 1998 01:32:05 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept.
Message-ID: <6la66l$8bp$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu>
References: <35787652.0@206.25.228.5>
In article <35787652.0@206.25.228.5> jkheit@xtdl.com writes:
>Has anyone gotten hooked up to the net via a Cable TV hookup? I know that
>they plug a cable modem into your ethernet card. Beyond that I'm not sure
>how it works. I want to try it, but before I do, I'd like to make sure it
>can be done.
Depends on the cable provider...
>Is it as simple as setting up a resolv.conf file and enabling the ehternet
>card?
I know that for Media One, the cable modem is keyed to the ethernet
hardware address of the card its plugged into, and they use DHCP, so
you'd need a DHCP client. If you wanted more than your NeXT to get access
to the cable modem, you'd need to run something like IP-Filter (as Linux
calls it) or IP-NAT (as NetBSD calls it).
>Any clues, help, reassurance that this works would be most welcome. I'll
>be able to drop a line, a provider, save some money, and increase
>bandwidth. Mucho kewl if I can get this to work.
It is VERY nice - 150k/sec downloads, 30k/sec uploads. Like having a
personal T1.
(I'd suggest calling up your provider (if they're not Media One) and
getting the details from them.)
--
Nathan Raymond
http://www.everythingmac.com
From: cms@macisp.net (cms)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help with CAPer (print)**
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 21:36:29 -0400
Organization: CMS
Message-ID: <cms-0506982136300001@209.26.71.138>
Okay.. I can print using CAPer..
printing email no problem.
try to print on the terminal window.. problem
what do we need to do to print from the command line..
lpr ???
man - k print | lpr?
would this work..
Rick
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From: "Sarawoot Chittratanawat" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pop-up and gone
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:35:18 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6lbr88$1n48$1@news.missouri.edu>
Hi there,
I installed Create 1.1 and WingZ to my NeXT. After installation
process, I can't open it. For Create, when I double-clicks it, its icon
shows up at the lower-left screen for a while and it's gone. When I
double-clicks at its document file, the document is opened with Create for a
while and then it's gone. For WingZ, I can't open it at all. What is the
problem for both software?
Hope to hear from you soon Thanks.
Your Sincerely,
Sarawoot
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pop-up and gone
Message-ID: <1998060617181000.NAA22052@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 06 Jun 1998 17:18:10 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6lbr88$1n48$1@news.missouri.edu>
I had difficulty running WingZ as well (though Create has worked fine for me in
the past).
My solution with WingZ was to copy in some shared libraries from a NS 3.1 CD
(this was from OpenStep 4.2) then it would run.
Afterwards however, it ceased running under my user account (me), but would run
as root, or if I used OpenSesame.app to open it as root.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Robert Worne <rworne at primenet dot com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fed Up With PPP!!!
Date: 6 Jun 1998 11:38:00 -0700
Organization: I'm not organized... sorry...
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In <hU5c1.863$ON2.6854745@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy Luoma wrote:
>
> Robert:
>
> What version of PPP are you using?
>
> I thought I had heard that the big PPP crasher bug had been
> found... are you on the nextppp@peak.org mailing list?
I'm not on the list, but I am running 2.2, the last "stable" version before
2.3.
I stopped using 2.3-- it does panic less often, but if there is any errors
in the connection, like a bad packet, I lose all connectivity and the link
goes
dead although I am still connected.
As for the new file you posted, it does not exist on the ftp site.
Thanks anyway.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 00:30:11 PST
Subject: "How to increase traffic to your Web site...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Omniweb3.0b7 for OS4.2, downloading bug?
Date: 6 Jun 1998 21:47:44 GMT
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Before, I go and send an e-mail over to Omni, I wanted to make sure, that I
wasn't sending something that wasn't already known. Here is the problem.
Every time I try to download a file from a web page, the mouse starts to spin
and continues to spin until the download is finish, in the mean while, I
can't use the browser. I haven't had this problem with beta5 or eariler, but
ever since beta6, I can't help but to notice. Can anybody confirm this bug?
Thanks. Running Openstep 4.2 on Intel hardware.
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: VarioBuilder (was: need simple data base app)
Date: 6 Jun 1998 08:51:02 GMT
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <6lavtm$1a4$1@marsu.navigator.de>
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In <Eu0swz.4Gp@micmac.com> Michel Coste wrote:
> Are any chances _then_ that it will be ported to Rhapsody?
Definitely not. VarioData was sort of a one-man-show by two German
developers. They sold the program to Lighthouse, but Lighthouse wasn't
willing to spend money into further development.
> I happen to appreciate many features of Variodata/VarioBuilder!!!
> What a regret is absence of multi-layouts... (and evidently relational
> capabilities...)
VarioData is a nice hack, but far away from capabilites like in MS Access.
> Another interesting feature is the ability to connect to SQL databases!
> By the way does someone know how to connect to OpenBase?
The SQL interface was done with the outdated DBKit, and thus only available
for Sybase, Oracle, Interbase and Informix. BTW, I've never seen an Informix
DBKit adapter.
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From: dunham@cs.tulane.edu (Andrea Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LaTeX2e on Black?
Date: 7 Jun 1998 04:21:04 GMT
Organization: Tulane University
Message-ID: <6ld4fg$rnq$1@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu>
Hi All,
Has LaTeX2e been ported to NeXT (Black) 3.3? Thanks for the info,
* AndREa * (dunham@eecs.tulane.edu)
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <3654896587219@digifix.com>
Date: 7 Jun 1998 03:49:08 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3379897192022@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
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_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
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Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
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Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on Black?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <6ld4fg$rnq$1@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu>
In-Reply-To: <6ld4fg$rnq$1@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu>
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul Samson)
Message-ID: <0hqe1.687$hc.566308@NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 06:18:36 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 02:18:36 EDT
On 06/06/98, Andrea Dunham wrote:
> Has LaTeX2e been ported to NeXT (Black) 3.3? Thanks for the info,
> * AndREa * (dunham@eecs.tulane.edu)
Goto:
http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX/
The teTeX package includes LaTeX2e. Also grab a version of the viewer
application TeXview.
--
-===================================================================-
Jean-Paul C. Samson -==- jsamson@istar.ca (NeXTmail & MIME welcome)
-=============- http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul -=============-
-===================================================================-
"Microsoft is a fact of life. They're like the air we breathe.
Perhaps a better analogy is bottled water, because you have to buy
it." -- Steve Jobs, Apple Computer's Worldwide Developers
Conference, May 16th, 1997
-===================================================================-
From: "Sarawoot" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OPENSTEP Developer?
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 04:36:09 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6ldn2o$1ch4$1@news.missouri.edu>
Dear all,
I launched OPENSTEP developer -Project Builder- but I can't start new
application. When I clicked Project>New, Project Builder quits immediately.
When I click Project>Open, the dialog box can't see project file.
I reinstalled it and tried it again. Nothing happens. Did i do
something wrong? or do you have some guide to help me out?
Thank you very much in advanced.
Your Sincerely
Sarawoot.
ed too. Are there
anything wrong with my machine?
Please help me. Thank you very much.
Your Sincerely,
Sarawoot
From: ginz1@juno.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: N.S. 3.3 On Win95 Machine?
Date: 7 Jun 1998 13:06:20 GMT
Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server
Message-ID: <6le38c$pd8$1@eve.enteract.com>
Hi All,
I have a Win95 machine that I would like to install
N.S. 3.3. The problem is I dont want to wipe out my Win95 setup, programs and files.
Can I run Win95 and N.S. 3.3 on the same drive?
Can I do a dual boot setup like with WinNT?
My drive on my pc is a 4 gig drive partioned into two 2gig partitions.
Hope someone can help.
Thanks as always!
Carl... ginz1@juno.com
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: N.S. 3.3 On Win95 Machine?
Date: 7 Jun 1998 13:53:34 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6le60u$54s$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6le38c$pd8$1@eve.enteract.com>
ginz1@juno.com wrote:
>Hi All,
>I have a Win95 machine that I would like to install
>N.S. 3.3. The problem is I dont want to wipe out my Win95 setup, programs
and files.
>Can I run Win95 and N.S. 3.3 on the same drive?
>Can I do a dual boot setup like with WinNT?
>My drive on my pc is a 4 gig drive partioned into two 2gig partitions.
Works like a charm. The installation procedure will ask you which
partition you want to install NEXTSTEP on.
Best regards, Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.."
// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help:OPENSTEP & Cable Modems?
References: <35787652.0@206.25.228.5> <tN_d1.262$BE5.1960928@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com>
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <357ab7c6.0@206.25.228.5>
Date: 7 Jun 98 15:54:46 GMT
nospam+nospam+nospam+this+works@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma)
wrote:
> NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
> <shame mode> John John John... a crossposted FAQ? shame shame
> </shame>
> Yes, actually this can be done... today marks 1 YEAR since I got
> my cable modem.
> It is easiest if they don't use DHCP..... or if they use DHCP
> but give you the same IP each time you login (functionally static).
> I wrote an article on setting this up
> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/articles/cablemodems
Dragging toe in sand, aww shucks. Super shame mode on: Umm, where
can I find the current FAQs?
Oh, the horror of it all. Putting bag over head; somehow feeling
much more handsome. :)
Thanks a bunch Tim. :)
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; self expressed...
__________________________________________________________________
monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK
NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com
Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit
Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Omniweb3.0b7 for OS4.2, downloading bug?
Date: 7 Jun 1998 18:59:12 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <6lenu0$12u@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
References: <6lcde0$rdh@nnrp4.farm.idt.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Cc: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM wrote:
> Every time I try to download a file from a web page, the mouse starts
to spin
> and continues to spin until the download is finish, in the mean while,
I
> can't use the browser. I haven't had this problem with beta5 or
eariler, but
Same here except that I can still use the browser in the meantime.
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome
Message-ID: <357B2172.644EE8A2@direct.ca>
From: ajryder <ajryder@direct.ca>
Organization: Cascadia Design
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need Nextstep 3.1 Install and Config. Guide (please help) [for Intel 486 - Pentium)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 23:26:12 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 16:26:12 PDT
Hi if anyone can help on this it would be much appreciated...
I bought a boxed set of Nextstep 3.1 in everything was in there
(including sealed CDs and floppies) except a guide called:
INSTALLING AND CONFIGURING NEXTSTEP 3.1
I think it would be good if I obtained a copy before trying to
install...
Does anyone know how I can get a copy?
Thanks
p.s. also interested in further releases for Intel - such as 3.2 and
3.3.
ajryder@direct.ca
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need Nextstep 3.1 Install and Config. Guide (please help) [for Intel 486 - Pentium)
Message-ID: <1998060800175500.UAA25205@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 08 Jun 1998 00:17:54 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <357B2172.644EE8A2@direct.ca>
Uh, I doubt the installation guide will do you much good unless you've got a
Canon ObjectStation in a closet or something. NS 3.1 for Intel is a real b* to
install.
Try searching on www.dejanews for NS 3.1 and SCSI, and you should hit on a post
which details the _two_ SCSI_ cards which're supported on Intel.
Installation is pretty straightforward though, if you've got the right
equipment, boot with the floppy and the CD-ROM in, partition the drive and
answer the prompts about what kind of equipment you have.
Hope this helps!
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: cms@macisp.net (cms)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help need with CAPer ( again. )**
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 14:01:08 -0400
Organization: CMS
Message-ID: <cms-0706981401080001@209.26.71.138>
There seem to be a problem printing in CAPer when using the terminal window
to print...
I can print find in the GUI. ( no problem )
this doesn't make since.
Frank has help.. but he really busy..
Does anyone else know what the problem is..
I try several unix commands to print in the terminal window nothing.
the last command was:
find . -name "test2*" -exec lpr -Poki {} ";"
( I see the hub lights blinking.. then I see the print light blink "once" ,
then nothing.. this is very strange.. )
I also try:
man lpr | lpr -Poki ( nothing )
lpr -Poki test2.doc
Again, in the GUI CAPer works fine.. to print. ( the same file ) printed
12 times..is there something else I need to setup.
Richard
Please send email: cms@macisp.net
From: "original_graphic" <original_graphic@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FA: Alembic CD for NeXT Machine (Auction)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 15:00:54 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6lerod$jcs$1@news.missouri.edu>
FA: Alembic CD for NeXT Machine (Auction)
Alembic CD for NeXT Machine is listed for auction at eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=16676127
Lots of shareware and demo software in this cool CD. To explore the
application of NeXT world, both reviews and somes are demo version, this CD
is what you are looking for. This CD is slightly used; infact, just for
study for a while. I'm in a BIG need to get some money for this summer.
Hence, let it go :(
Winner takes care shipping/handling for only US$3.00 by US priority mail.
Prepayment is required. Personal check is needed to wait for clear. Money
Order will ship in the same day I recieve your money order.
Any problem? Let me know at original_graphic@yahoo.com
--
Best Regards,
original_graphic@yahoo.com
From: root@toneloc.ix.netcom.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pop-up and gone
Date: 7 Jun 1998 20:28:35 GMT
Organization: ICGNetcom
Message-ID: <6let5j$ss8@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com>
References: <6lbr88$1n48$1@news.missouri.edu> <1998060617181000.NAA22052@ladder01.news.aol.com>
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Cc: willadams@aol.com
In <1998060617181000.NAA22052@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
> I had difficulty running WingZ as well (though Create has worked fine for
me in
> the past).
>
> My solution with WingZ was to copy in some shared libraries from a NS 3.1
CD
> (this was from OpenStep 4.2) then it would run.
>
> Afterwards however, it ceased running under my user account (me), but would
run
> as root, or if I used OpenSesame.app to open it as root.
>
> William
>
>
> William Adams
> http://members.aol.com/willadams
> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
>
>
--
I have the same problem launching Jessycad and SNS Helper; whether I log on
as root or not.
Any suggestions?
From: cms@macisp.net (cms)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Install 3.3.1 Patch..where the rest!!
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 00:06:38 -0400
Organization: CMS
Message-ID: <cms-0806980006390001@209.26.71.138>
We just finished install the 3.31 Patch for Next.
the DOC's are confusing..
They say included is a script 3.3Patch.ImprovedDNS.post_install
( they lie , or were drunk, its not there )
I did find a page on Next Answer that listed a script..
But, didn't find the App. to do the install..
any help please...on where we can find the App,
Thank;s
Rick
cms@macisp.net
From: nospam+nospam+nospam+this+works@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Install 3.3.1 Patch..where the rest!!
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References: <cms-0806980006390001@209.26.71.138>
Message-ID: <l7Le1.404$BE5.3042006@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 06:01:53 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 23:01:53 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
FYI I just answered this on comp.sys.next.sysadmin where it was re-posted,
once again wasting time by not properly crossposting and setting a
Followups-To: line.
And please don't try and tell me that crossposting to 2 groups might be
considered spam but reposting the message to 2 groups is acceptable
TjL (who has had this conversation with Rick before)
--
"soon": (adv) a time interval somewhere between this afternoon and
the end of the world, if all goes as according to plan"
-- From the Dictionary for Marketing
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Omniweb3.0b7 for OS4.2, downloading bug?
Date: 8 Jun 1998 05:38:40 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <6lftd0$ba@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
References: <6lcde0$rdh@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> <6lenu0$12u@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
<6levuj$l0i@nnrp2.farm.idt.net>
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Cc: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
Xcanpos: shelf.ophelia/199806161001!0004448488
echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM wrote:
> files. It seems that Omniweb is very sensitive to double clicking. If
you
> double click on a file link, it going to try to download it twice and
it is
> only at this time that the mouse hangs and spins until both download is
> complete. After carefully, downloading file with one click of the
mouse, it
> seems to work just fine. Thanks for the input.
Not here. I downloaded two files yesterday with no problem. But when I
clicked on the third I got the spinning wheel. This wheel didn't even
disappear when the download was completed. Although I was able to go on
using the browser I wasn't able to to get the links name when I moved the
spinning cursor on a link and waited.
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome
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From: nospam+nospam+nospam+this+works@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Omniweb3.0b7 for OS4.2, downloading bug?
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<6levuj$l0i@nnrp2.farm.idt.net> <6lftd0$ba@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 08:43:10 GMT
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Organization: @Home Network
FWIW it is working fine here.
Have you reported this to omniweb3@omnigroup.com ?
You might try deleting all OmniWeb-related files (use the Receipts file and
delete option for Installer) and reinstall it from scratch.
Have you installed all the components?
Just shooting in the dark
TjL
--
"soon": (adv) a time interval somewhere between this afternoon and
the end of the world, if all goes as according to plan"
-- From the Dictionary for Marketing
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Omniweb3.0b7 for OS4.2, downloading bug?
Date: 8 Jun 1998 15:46:58 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <6lh11i$8i6$1@news.spacelab.net>
References: <6lcde0$rdh@nnrp4.farm.idt.net>
echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM wrote:
>Before, I go and send an e-mail over to Omni, I wanted to make sure, that I
>wasn't sending something that wasn't already known.
It's better to send bug reports for beta software to the authors directly, not to
newsgroups. Omni has a nice release notes document which they keep updated with all
of the known issues with OmniWeb, at
http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ReleaseNotes.html.
If you don't see the issue in the "known bugs" section, you should definitely let them
know. Even if it was mentioned, you might still send a bug report on a known bug if
it's important to you that it gets fixed, since the authors thereby get more feedback
about what areas they should concentrate on.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: dmwood@slate.Mines.EDU (WOOD DAVID M)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Read Win95 MO's under OpenStep 4.0?
Date: 8 Jun 1998 19:34:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Message-ID: <6lheba$fp4$1@herald.Mines.EDU>
Howdy!
I'm using a Fujitsu M2513A 640MB MO (with posted disktab modifications
to permit use of 2048-byte sectors) under OpenStep 4.0. Also works fine
under Windows95 (if initialized under W95). BUT: OpenStep can't seem
to detect a W95-formatted-and-written MO disk (so ejects it), and of
course W95 is oblivious to `exotic' file systems.
Any suggestions for coercing OpenStep 4.0 into reading MO's written
under Windows? Thanks!
--
David M. Wood
Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401
Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840
e-mail: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tape drive program?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 9 Jun 1998 02:06:55 GMT
Organization: computerActive Inc.
Message-ID: <6li5bv$bt5$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
References: <B189C7D6-3A7AC@141.214.128.36> <_H391.198$ON2.1797327@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> <slrn6mbjoj.bh8.ben@ben.tapehouse.net>
Ben Rosengart (ben@ben.tapehouse.net) wrote:
: >ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/util/SafetyNet.2.5r1.NIHS.tar.gz
: >ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/util/SafetyNet.2.5r1.README
: >
: >Commercial, but supposedly excellent
: I use it at work -- it's alright, but I'd be just as happy with tar, which
: has the advantage of being restorable anywhere.
The problem is that tar has no interface to speak of. It has the advantage
of making tapes that are mostly portable to other OS'es, but the excellent
GUI and incremental multi-tape backup management in SafetyNet are
invaluable and more than make up for portability in most cases.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
csaldanh@computerActive.com (NeXT/MIME)| Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
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From: ginz1@juno.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can't Load N.S. 3.3 On My Win95 Machine
Date: 9 Jun 1998 05:15:07 GMT
Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server
Message-ID: <6ligcr$nbe$1@eve.enteract.com>
Hi All,
I finally got around to trying to install N.S. 3.3 on my Win95 machine, with no luck I might add. Here is the error message I'm getting, "NEXTSTEP cannot be installed on any disks. You must have a 512 byte / sector disk with at least 120mb of free space"
My system set up as follows:
Pentium II 266
64mb of ram
4gig Seagate IDE Hard Drive Partitoned into two 2 gig partitions.
IDE ATAPI 24x CDRom drive
First partition holds Win95, Second partition is empty.
I got the additional drives floppy image for the ATAPI CDRom, and even installed the driver during the installation and the CDrom was detected no problem. I tried the install six times trying several different ways, but each time getting the same error message.
Any Ideas?
Thanks as always!!!
Carl... ginz1@juno.com
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pop-up and gone
Date: 8 Jun 98 11:13:12
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SCOTT.98Jun8111312@slave.doubleu.com>
References: <6lbr88$1n48$1@news.missouri.edu>
<1998060617181000.NAA22052@ladder01.news.aol.com>
In-reply-to: willadams@aol.com's message of 06 Jun 1998 17:18:10 GMT
In article <1998060617181000.NAA22052@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) writes:
I had difficulty running WingZ as well (though Create has worked
fine for me in the past).
My solution with WingZ was to copy in some shared libraries from a
NS 3.1 CD (this was from OpenStep 4.2) then it would run.
Afterwards however, it ceased running under my user account (me),
but would run as root, or if I used OpenSesame.app to open it as
root.
Then you might try setting "Public Window Server" on in
Preferences.app. This _may_ have something to do with a change made
to naming of (mainly Pasteboard) resources in later versions of
NeXTSTEP, which sometimes is fixed by "Public Window Server".
You might also look into getting NS2.x shared libraries, and binary
editting the executables to use them. This was necessary for Icon to
work (actually, both the shared libraries and the "Public Window
Server" change were necessary for Icon),
--
scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/
<Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots
Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Omniweb3.0b7 for OS4.2, downloading bug?
Date: 8 Jun 1998 22:18:50 GMT
Organization: IDT (Best News In The World)
Message-ID: <6lho0a$kde@nnrp2.farm.idt.net>
References: <6lcde0$rdh@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> <6lh11i$8i6$1@news.spacelab.net>
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In <6lh11i$8i6$1@news.spacelab.net> "Charles W. Swiger" wrote:
> echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM wrote:
> >Before, I go and send an e-mail over to Omni, I wanted to make sure, that
I
> >wasn't sending something that wasn't already known.
>
> It's better to send bug reports for beta software to the authors directly,
not to
> newsgroups. Omni has a nice release notes document which they keep updated
with all
> of the known issues with OmniWeb, at
> http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ReleaseNotes.html.
>
> If you don't see the issue in the "known bugs" section, you should
definitely let them
> know. Even if it was mentioned, you might still send a bug report on a
known bug if
> it's important to you that it gets fixed, since the authors thereby get
more feedback
> about what areas they should concentrate on.
>
> -Chuck
>
> Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
> ---------------+-------------------+--------------------
> "Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
>
The bug has been reported and confirmed. Thanks for the interest.
--
/=====================================/
Jay Lee
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(NeXTMail,SUN,MIME)
/=====================================/
From: nospam+nospam+nospam+this+works@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pop-up and gone
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References: <6lbr88$1n48$1@news.missouri.edu> <1998060617181000.NAA22052@ladder01.news.aol.com>
<SCOTT.98Jun8111312@slave.doubleu.com> <6lkjo8$gha@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com>
Message-ID: <_9lf1.34113$BE5.4113776@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 01:18:50 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 18:18:50 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
In <6lkjo8$gha@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> Operator wrote:
> Can you suggest a source for these older shared libraries?
> I'm running NS 3.3 FIP.
You'd have to find someone with 2.1 to ship them to you
They're about 2.1MB
TjL
--
"soon": (adv) a time interval somewhere between this afternoon and
the end of the world, if all goes as according to plan"
-- From the Dictionary for Marketing
From: cms@macisp.net (cms)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help Needed with ( CAPer )
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:40:03 -0400
Organization: CMS
Message-ID: <cms-1006980840040001@209.26.71.138>
We are having printing problem using the terminal window to
print..
Frank doesn't know what wrong..with CAPer.. and why its doing this.
I can print from the GUI..
But can't print from the terminal window.
very strange..
We haven't hear back from frank a 2 days..regarding this problem.
please help.
Richard
From: ahoesch@smartsoft.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SmartBase 1.5b for OPENSTEP Mach
Date: 10 Jun 1998 14:03:05 GMT
Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V.
Message-ID: <6lm3mp$5gn@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de>
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SUBMISSION
SmartBase 1.5b for OPENSTEP
ftp.smartsoft.de/SmartBase/SmartBase.1.5b.I.b.tar.gz
SmartBase has been developed to simplify the development and maintenance of
database dependent software systems based on OPENSTEP, Apples new next
generation operating system. This goal is achieved by centralizing the
business logic for more flexibility, by providing support for remote object
instanciation in order to support the design of client/server architectures
and by introducing an advanced object paradigm allowing to create data models
at a very high abstraction level.
Š Centralized business logic
Š Remote object support
Š Advanced object paradigm
SmartBase does not provide data storage mechanisms on its own but makes use
of an ordinary relational database management system for this purpose. You
can think of SmartBase as an objective extension for your database. Because
SmartBase is based on Apples Enterprise Objects Framework it principly can be
used with any RDBMS, that's supported by EOF or comes with an EOF-Adapter.
SmartBase is built for Intel. You need to have OPENSTEP Mach and EOF
installed to use this product. Moreover you need a RDBMS. The current release
only supports OpenBase (Version 5.1.8 or higher). See http://www.openbase.com
to get a demo version of OpenBase for Mach.
RELEASE NOTES
Changes for version 1.5b Release
----------------------------------------------
- The role/history mechanism has completely been redesigned. Both, roles and
history attributes can now reasonably be used for qualification on SQL level
by making use of views. Moreover you can cause an object in memory to reflect
its condition at a given time. After fetching all persons that have been
employees with salary > 2000 on June 3rd 1998, you can send each of these
objects a setObjectTime: message in order to let its role and history
attributes reflect the condition of the object at the specified time.
Changes for version 1.3 Release
----------------------------------------------
- OBModeler has been redesigned to support cut & paste, modification of
classes and attributes after their creation and comments for classes and
attributes. Note that the obmodel file format has been changed. You can read
old models with the new OBModeler but not vice versa.
- Many minor bugs have been fixed.
Changes for version 1.2 Release
----------------------------------------------
- Access Privileges can now correctly be set also for complex attributes
(including attributes of type DATA). The responsible bug has been fixed.
- Some more minor bugs have been fixed.
Changes for version 1.1 Release
----------------------------------------------
- Only classbundles that have been changed since the last time the
application has run are downloaded from the server again. This reduces
network traffic and allows SmartBase to be used with very slow connections
too.
- Objects cannot only be instanciated on client computers but also on the
server now
- Some minor bugs have been fixed
- Changes have been made to the framework libraries in order to realize the
remote object mechanism.
- The SmartBase demos have been updated to reflect the framework changes.
INSTALLATION
Simply untar SmartBase.1.5b.I.tar.gz and install all five packages on your
workstation. Read the documentation in /LocalLibrary/Documentation/SmartBase
for further details. If you encounter any problems or have suggestions
regarding the further development of SmartBase, do not hesitate to contact
us. We look forward to hear from you.
For further information, contact:
Smartsoft Development
Email: info@smartsoft.de
Special thanks to Scott Keith from OpenBase Inc. for his kind support!!!
From: ahoesch@smartsoft.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Test SmartBase and get a license for free!
Date: 10 Jun 1998 14:03:25 GMT
Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V.
Message-ID: <6lm3nd$5gn@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de>
Hello developers,
we are very proud to announce SmartBase 1.5b for OPENSTEP Mach. SmartBase is
an objective extention for relational database management and intends to
essentially simplify the modeling and application development process for
database dependent applications written in Objective-C. Because SmartBase is
based on Apples Enterprise Objects Framework, it principly can be used with
any RDBMS that is supported by EOF or comes with an EOF-adapter.
Our product has undergone many tests and improvements in the last months and
we believe it to have reached a state suitable for serious application
development now.
Anyway we want to continue our hard work to make it even better. That's why
we want you to test SmartBase and give us as much feedback and ideas for the
further development as possible.
Your efforts will be honored with free licenses. Please visit our Web-site
www.smartsoft.de to learn more about the goals of SmartBase or simply get a
copy of our product.
ftp.smartsoft.de/SmartBase/SmartBase.1.5b.I.b.tar.gz
We look forward to hear from you!
Smartsoft Development
E-Mail: info@smartsoft.de
From: beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu (Richard Beigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: problem with TeXView or MakeTeXPK
Date: 10 Jun 1998 14:52:48 GMT
Message-ID: <6lm6k0$1i2u@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
TeXView won't display the sans-serif font for me. Metafont makes the
.tfm and .100gf file, but then MakeTeXPK says it can't find cmss10. I
tried running TeXView as root, but that didn't help. I also tried
running MakeTeXPK by hand, as root, but that didn't help either. Any
ideas?
In contrast, dvips is able to make and display the sans-serif font.
--- Richard
- MakeTeXPK cmss10 100 100 1+0/100
MakeTeXPK: Running mf \mode:=nextscrn; mag:=1+0/100; scrollmode; input cmss10
This is METAFONT, Version 2.718 (C version 6.1)
(/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/cmss10.mf
(/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/cmbase.mf)
(/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/roman.mf
(/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/romanu.mf [65] [66] [67]
[68] [69] [70] [71] [72] [73] [74] [75] [76] [77] [78] [79] [80] [81] [82]
[83] [84] [85] [86] [87] [88] [89] [90])
(/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/romanl.mf [97] [98] [99]
[100] [101] [102] [103] [104] [105] [106] [107] [108] [109] [110] [111]
[112] [113] [114] [115] [116] [117] [118] [119] [120]
> 0 SSW 1 WSW (SSW SSE) ESE ENE 2 (NNE) NNW 3 (WNW) WSW WNW (NNW NNE) ENE 0 (ES
E SSE)
! Strange path (turning number is zero).
<to be read again>
;
l.793 filldraw stroke term.e(6',7,left,1,4);
fi % arc and terminal
[121] [122]) (/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/greeku.mf [0]
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10])
(/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/romand.mf [48] [49] [50]
[51] [52] [53] [54] [55] [56] [57])
(/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/romanp.mf [36] [38] [63]
[62]) (/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/romspl.mf [16] [17]
[25] [26] [27] [28]) (/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/romspu.mf
[29] [30] [31]) (/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/punct.mf
[33] [60] [35] [37] [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [46] [47] [58] [59] [61]
[64] [91] [93] [96]) (/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/accent.mf
[18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [32] [94] [95] [125] [126] [127])
(/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/romlig.mf [11] [12] [13]
[14] [15]) (/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/comlig.mf [34]
[45] [92] [123] [124]) ) )
(see the transcript file for additional information)
Font metrics written on cmss10.tfm.
Output written on cmss10.100gf (128 characters, 5664 bytes).
Transcript written on cmss10.log.
MakeTeXPK: `mf \mode:=nextscrn; mag:=1+0/100; scrollmode; input cmss10' failed.
Font cmss10 not found, characters will be left blank.
From: ahoesch@smartsoft.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ProjectManager for SmartBase
Date: 10 Jun 1998 15:52:58 GMT
Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V.
Message-ID: <6lma4q$nl@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de>
SUBMISSION
ProjectManager 0.1 for SmartBase
ftp.smartsoft.de/ProjectManager/ProjectManager.0.1.I.b.tar.gz
ProjectManager is a little application originally intended for SmartBase
client application demonstration purposes only. But we finally found it so
useful for our own project management, that we decided to make it available
for you as a simple version control system for OPENSTEP.
Suppose you work on a great project consisting of many subprojects that again
might contain subprojects. ProjectManager makes it really easy for you to
archive your project or a part of it together with a date and a remark for
later reference or reuse.
Simply create a new project and add all subprojects. Then select one of the
projects in the project browser and click on Upload Version. Select a single
file or a folder and press Return. ProjectManager will compress the selection
using gnutar and store it in the database. If you later need to review an
older version, simply select the version in question in the version list,
press Download Version and select the intended destination folder.
ProjectManager will get the compressed data from the database, uncompress it
and write the directory structure back on disk.
Note that ProjectManager also maintains remarks for all projects and
versions. Simply press Alt-r to open the remark window and describe what you
have done since the last upload (archivation).
ProjectManager is free and comes as it is. Your are nevertheless welcome to
send us feedback regarding the further development of ProjectManager.
For further information, contact:
Smartsoft Development
Web: www.smartsoft.de
Email: info@smartsoft.de
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pop-up and gone
Date: 9 Jun 98 19:44:46
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SCOTT.98Jun9194446@slave.doubleu.com>
References: <6lbr88$1n48$1@news.missouri.edu>
<1998060617181000.NAA22052@ladder01.news.aol.com>
<SCOTT.98Jun8111312@slave.doubleu.com>
<6lkjo8$gha@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com>
In-reply-to: root@toneloc.ix.netcom.com's message of 10 Jun 1998 00:24:40 GMT
In article <6lkjo8$gha@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com>,
root@toneloc.ix.netcom.com (Operator) writes:
> You might also look into getting NS2.x shared libraries, and
> binary editting the executables to use them.
Can you suggest a source for these older shared libraries? I'm
running NS 3.3 FIP.
They're m68k, anyhow, so they won't work for you.
Otherwise, you get them from /usr/shlib on an NS2.1 machine or media,
put them in /2.1/shlib on an NS3.x machine, and then binary edit the
references in the executables to use /2.1/shlib rather than
/usr/shlib.
Later,
--
scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/
<Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots
Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: REQ: DHCP package for 3.3
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Message-ID: <37zf1.34142$BE5.4487232@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:11:27 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:11:27 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
Hey folks I've banged my head against this wall until I'm black & blue....
Would someone be willing to put together a set of binaries (NI at least, NIHS
would be preferred) or if they're really shooting for High Kudos, a .pkg
installer ?
I'd really like to get DHCP working and haven't been able to get NeXTStep
binaries compiled.
TjL
--
"soon": (adv) a time interval somewhere between this afternoon and
the end of the world, if all goes as according to plan"
-- From the Dictionary for Marketing
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Soft PC for NeXT Cube
Message-ID: <1998061122590500.SAA08142@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 11 Jun 1998 22:59:05 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <1998061114414200.KAA14152@ladder03.news.aol.com>
There's a SoftPC demo on either the NS 3.0 or 3.1 CD-ROM.
Unfortunately, after the first versio or so, SoftPC for NeXT went Intel only.
I'd suggest getting WordPerfect for NeXT and maybe if you're really into it,
you could get QEMM's X for DOS (forget what it was called, Jerry Pournelle was
big on it, didn't it allow remote operation of DOS programs?) and maybe run an
x-client on the NeXT to display them, but this is a point of diminishing
returns I think.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Butch <butch@mmm.com>
Newsgroups: vmsnet.internals,swnet.teknik,pt.comp,microsoft.public.sk,fj.comp,de.comp.sys.amiga,comp.internet,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,chile.comp.sun,alt.winsock,alt.internet.providers.europe,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: !! Attention all PC users !!
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:44:50 -0700
Organization: gte.net
Message-ID: <6lqf6s$s36$2@gte1.gte.net>
References: <3573178F.466A@toulon.pacwan.net>
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To: gradnet@toulon.pacwan.net
What a waste of money, All current, quality diagnostic software will do
this for you.
If you have a good relation with a local shop they may do it for you for
little or no money or you could contact the manufacturer, or roll the
date forward and check it yourself.
Die spammers Die.
Butch
Year 2000 wrote:
> !! Attention all PC users !!
>
> Did you know 99.99% of all PC's need a Millennium Bug Fix ?
>
> Why not get a FREE health check up ?
>
> Go to: url deleted
>
> Apply for FREE test on the Order Form
>
> You can check if you have a problem with NOTHING TO PAY !!
From: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Digital Camera dor NeXT
Date: 12 Jun 1998 07:07:59 GMT
Organization: Oldenburger Informations-Systeme, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6lqk4f$im@hazel.north.de>
Is this a hardware (camera) or software (driver program) question?
Anyway: I am looking for a digital camera which works with my NeXT cube.
I know of the Sony Mavica, which stores pictures in jpg format on
floppies, but it has a rather small resolution (something like 640 x 480
pixels only) and is sort of expensive.
What other cameras have a serial line connection, and a driver program for
NeXT, a driver programm in source code, or at least, a complete
documentation, how to read and interpret data from the serial line?
There must be someone with a digital camera and a NeXT machine somewhere!
Regards
Gerriet.
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: lynx 2.8 not 8bit clean on NeXT, Ultrix
Date: 12 Jun 1998 14:40:51 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <6lrelj$8lq$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Originator: schwarz@poseidon.physik.tu-berlin.de
I've jusr installed lynx 2.8rel2 on a couple of systems. On NEXTSTEP 3.3
as well as on Ultrix 4.3 lynx strips the MSB when displaying 8bit
ISO-8859-1 characters. At least in the case of Ultrix the Shell is 8 bit
clean (with NeXT I'm not so sure; at least input within the shell, csh, is
being stripped, although stty says pass8).
Moreover, lynx2.8 on both systems displays links in reverse (also others
than the currently selected one), which it does not do on other systems
(e.g. IRIX, solaris). I assume it's some problem with old BSD systems.
With Lynx 2-7-2 and prior, at least on Ultrix, this has not been the case
(I had never bothered to try it on NeXT). Also, might the locale mechanism
play a role here?
What could cause those problems, and how could I fix them?
Thanks.
--
Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui)
Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi
Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang)
Subject: Re: Soft PC for NeXT Cube
Message-ID: <EuFz2I.3wv@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: GSB, University of Chicago
References: <1998061114414200.KAA14152@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:03:54 GMT
In article <1998061114414200.KAA14152@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
THE ROCKS5 <therocks5@aol.com> wrote:
>Anyone know of availability of this. I have a NeXT Cube 68040 w/32MB RAM and
>400MB HDD. Monochrome monitor. I E-mailed Insignia Solutions and they said they
>don't know of this emulator for NeXT Hardware. Actually they seemed to not know
>of NeXT hardware. I want to run basic MSDOS programs like Word Perfect 5.1 and
>the like on my Cube. I have Nextstep 3.3 User on the HDD.
>
> Thanks.
Of course the SoftPC is available (for cube and slab). I know there are
at least two versions, one is 1993 and the other one is 1996 for Intel.
I do not know what appplication you can run since I never use it.
I do not think they still sell this software. You'll have to buy
it from the net. Good luck.
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From: ahoesch@smartsoft.de
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Subject: TeX like font for OPENSTEP
Date: 12 Jun 1998 13:20:25 GMT
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Message-ID: <6lr9up$51c@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de>
Hello,
I need a font (for OPENSTEP) with glyphs that look as much as possible like
what TeX generates. I looked around a bit on peanuts and found a list of many
fonts. I wondered if anyone already has looked through all these and can give
me hint before I spend many hours on trying one after the other.
Thank you very much!
Andreas
From: antoine_RemoveThisFromAdress_@arrakis.RemoveThisFromAdress.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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In <6lr9up$51c@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de> ahoesch@smartsoft.de wrote:
% Hello,
%
% I need a font (for OPENSTEP) with glyphs that look as much as possible
like
% what TeX generates. I looked around a bit on peanuts and found a list of
many
% fonts. I wondered if anyone already has looked through all these and can
give
% me hint before I spend many hours on trying one after the other.
%
% Thank you very much!
%
% Andreas
You can check Y&Y software, they sell tex / ps fonts, I think I read
somewhere that a ps version of cm fonts was freeware...
Good luck !
From: antoine_RemoveThisFromAdress_@arrakis.RemoveThisFromAdress.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
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In <EuFz2I.3wv@midway.uchicago.edu> Andrew Chang wrote:
% In article <1998061114414200.KAA14152@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
% THE ROCKS5 <therocks5@aol.com> wrote:
% >Anyone know of availability of this. I have a NeXT Cube 68040 w/32MB RAM
and
% >400MB HDD. Monochrome monitor. I E-mailed Insignia Solutions and they
said they
% >don't know of this emulator for NeXT Hardware. Actually they seemed to
not know
% >of NeXT hardware. I want to run basic MSDOS programs like Word Perfect
5.1 and
% >the like on my Cube. I have Nextstep 3.3 User on the HDD.
% >
% > Thanks.
%
% Of course the SoftPC is available (for cube and slab). I know there are
% at least two versions, one is 1993 and the other one is 1996 for Intel.
% I do not know what appplication you can run since I never use it.
%
% I do not think they still sell this software. You'll have to buy
% it from the net. Good luck.
%
I am using both, the 93 version is dos only, the 96 one runs dos and win3.1.
From: smithw@tank (Dr. William V. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Rhapsody and fonts
Date: 12 Jun 1998 12:26:34 -0600
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <ygc1zsuiihx.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me>
I have a lot of fonts on my cube (NS3.3) that I would like
to transport to a mac g3 (DR2 side). I tried the obvious
things (copying the font files over, erasing the .fontlist
etc. files and letting DR2 build new ones, etc.) But the
new fonts don't appear. Anyone had success with this (I'd
like to avoid mucking with each font separately.)
-Bill
--
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email: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu, smithw@math.byu.edu
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX like font for OPENSTEP
Message-ID: <1998061220023700.QAA24400@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 12 Jun 1998 20:02:37 GMT
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References: <6lr9up$51c@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de>
The Computer Modern and AMS PS fonts (Some of them anyway) are now being
distributed freely.
They're on ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/tex/fonts or something like that.
William
William Adams
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Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Philip McDunnough" <pmcd@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AfterStep for X
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Does anyone know where a compiled version of this might be obtained for
Cube-X?
Philip
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can't Load N.S. 3.3 On My Win95 Machine
Date: 11 Jun 1998 20:24:22 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
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ginz1@juno.com wrote:
[ ... ]
>Pentium II 266
>64mb of ram
>4gig Seagate IDE Hard Drive Partitoned into two 2 gig partitions.
>IDE ATAPI 24x CDRom drive
>First partition holds Win95, Second partition is empty.
I'm pretty sure you need to have the NS 3.3 boot partition within the first 2
GB of the drive....
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: carl@force-cgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can't Load N.S. 3.3 On My Win95 Machine
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 22:28:16 GMT
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That makes sense to me so do I delete the first partition, and then
install N.S. 3.3 and then install Win95 on the second partition?
Any and all help appreciated.
Carl...
"Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> wrote:
>ginz1@juno.com wrote:
>[ ... ]
>>Pentium II 266
>>64mb of ram
>>4gig Seagate IDE Hard Drive Partitoned into two 2 gig partitions.
>>IDE ATAPI 24x CDRom drive
>>First partition holds Win95, Second partition is empty.
>I'm pretty sure you need to have the NS 3.3 boot partition within the first 2
>GB of the drive....
>-Chuck
> Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
> ---------------+-------------------+--------------------
> "Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu (Richard Beigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MakeTeXPK (was "problem with TeXView or MakeTeXPK")
Date: 12 Jun 1998 22:19:00 GMT
Message-ID: <6ls9gk$18ic@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
References: <6lm6k0$1i2u@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> <6lpa9i$22f4@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
Thanks to Dragan Milicic, I was able to diagnose the problem. If mf
produces a warning message, then MakeTeXPK does exits. This can be a
problem with some low resolution fonts. I made a new version of
MakeTeXPK that continues instead. Here are the context diffs.
almond [7] /usr/local/bin/ diff MakeTeXPK*
145c145
< $cmd </dev/null || { echo "$progname: \`$cmd' failed." >&2; exit 1; }
---
> $cmd </dev/null || { echo "$progname: \`$cmd' failed. Continuing anyway ..." >&2; }
You can replace MakeTeXPK with the tolerant version if you are bold.
Or you can keep both versions around and run the tolerant one by hand
as needed.
From: "T.E.Dickey" <dickey@shell.clark.net>
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: lynx 2.8 not 8bit clean on NeXT, Ultrix
Date: 12 Jun 1998 23:45:48 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
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In comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
: I've jusr installed lynx 2.8rel2 on a couple of systems. On NEXTSTEP 3.3
: as well as on Ultrix 4.3 lynx strips the MSB when displaying 8bit
: ISO-8859-1 characters. At least in the case of Ultrix the Shell is 8 bit
: clean (with NeXT I'm not so sure; at least input within the shell, csh, is
: being stripped, although stty says pass8).
: Moreover, lynx2.8 on both systems displays links in reverse (also others
: than the currently selected one), which it does not do on other systems
the "old" BSD curses is not itself 8-bit clean (doesn't matter what Lynx
does). Try building with ncurses, which is.
The current version of ncurses is 4.2
There's an faq at
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html
: (e.g. IRIX, solaris). I assume it's some problem with old BSD systems.
: With Lynx 2-7-2 and prior, at least on Ultrix, this has not been the case
: (I had never bothered to try it on NeXT). Also, might the locale mechanism
: play a role here?
: What could cause those problems, and how could I fix them?
: Thanks.
--
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:07:24 +0000
From: Royce Priem <priem@his.com>
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Hello -
Does NeXTstep have some kind of type manager for anti-aliasing? If I
generate an image with text it looks like it's been generated in
Paintbrush, with lots of jagged edges. Thanks in advance...
Regards,
Royce
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 01:24:37 -0700
From: mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Rhapsody and fonts
Message-ID: <mrb-1306980124370001@ip-206-79-223-145.dialup.autobahn.org>
References: <ygc1zsuiihx.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me>
Organization: UC Berkeley
In article
<ygc1zsuiihx.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me>,
smithw@tank (Dr. William V. Smith) wrote:
> I have a lot of fonts on my cube (NS3.3) that I would like
> to transport to a mac g3 (DR2 side). I tried the obvious
> things (copying the font files over, erasing the .fontlist
> etc. files and letting DR2 build new ones, etc.) But the
> new fonts don't appear. Anyone had success with this (I'd
> like to avoid mucking with each font separately.)
>
> -Bill
I'm sorry if this would have been counted in the "obvious" things to do,
but did you try typing "buildafmdir /NextLibrary/Fonts/"?
Brendan
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: lynx 2.8 not 8bit clean on NeXT, Ultrix
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 13:36:58 +0200
Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin
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T.E.Dickey <dickey@shell.clark.net> wrote:
> the "old" BSD curses is not itself 8-bit clean (doesn't matter what Lynx
> does). Try building with ncurses, which is.
I see. But how come this was not an issue with lynx versions prior to
2.8?
--
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From: Laurent Curnier <Laurent.Curnier@loria.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Pb : Bad shared Library
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:29:19 +0200
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Anyone has encountered the error "Bad shared Library" with some
LightHouse products like OpenWrite and Quantrix ??
I use NS3.0 on a NeXTCube.
Any help would be appreciated.
Laurent Curnier
--
From: "Joerg Spix" <Joerg.Spix@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Digital Camera dor NeXT
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:10:36 +0200
Organization: C. v. Ossietzky Universitaet Oldenburg - Fachbereich Informatik
Message-ID: <6lu4nk$cg5@news.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
References: <6lqk4f$im@hazel.north.de>
Gerriet M. Denkmann <gerriet@hazel.north.de> wrote:
Hi,
> Is this a hardware (camera) or software (driver program) question?
It's a software question. At least the Cameras with Software for the Mac
must have a serial interface. (I'm rather sure, that tey won't use
AppleTalk.)
> Anyway: I am looking for a digital camera which works with my NeXT cube.
> I know of the Sony Mavica, which stores pictures in jpg format on
> floppies, but it has a rather small resolution (something like 640 x 480
> pixels only) and is sort of expensive.
Try to get a Mavica used (which is very difficult, I know).
Do you really need a higher resolution? If you want high quality picures
a digital camera is not what you are looking for. Use a traditional
camera and scan the pictures or use PhotoDisc as the medium. (I have
seen PhotoDisc readers for the NeXT.)
> What other cameras have a serial line connection, and a driver program for
> NeXT, a driver programm in source code, or at least, a complete
> documentation, how to read and interpret data from the serial line?
>
> There must be someone with a digital camera and a NeXT machine somewhere!
Yes, but I was really lucky to get a Mavica used for half the price.
It's worth the money, I think. You can get floppy disks anywhere, the
battery can fill up to 25 Disks which is up to 500 pictures (or more)
before you need to charge it.
Joerg
--
(Joerg.Spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de)
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
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In <3582709F.587BD273@loria.fr> Laurent Curnier wrote:
>
> Anyone has encountered the error "Bad shared Library" with some
> LightHouse products like OpenWrite and Quantrix ??
>
> I use NS3.0 on a NeXTCube.
I believe you would need at least 3.2 to use those apps.
TjL
--
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From: Gerald F. Deene<gerald@cnet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEW WEBSITE WITH NO BS! http://come.to/warez.net
Date: 13 Jun 1998 17:38:25 GMT
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thats right a new great website
and if you don't agree flame the owners (not me)
=)
have a great time being young in the sun
http://come.to/warez.net
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Jaz boot failure
Message-ID: <1998061401160400.VAA05133@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 14 Jun 1998 01:16:04 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
I used the disktab and scripts available from NeXTAnswers to build a bootable
Jaz cartridge, but it's not working for me.
It starts to boot, but keeps getting hung up at various points, sometimes
generating error messages, brief extracts include:
mountfs: illegal mount request
mount /dev/sd0a on / invalid argument
/usr/etc/mach_swap_on failed no such file or directory
cannote create /dev/log Read only file system
it hangs at netinfo and other places too.
It's a 25MHz 68K Cube with 40 MB RAM and a small HD at SCSI ID0. I'm trying to
boot with the command bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1a
I'd be obliged at any assistance anyone could offer. I'd like to use this build
disk and the files on the cartdrige if possible--checked NeXTAnswers for backup
advice and copied over the things which it suggested, but no joy.
I'd make the internal HD id0, but don't have any spare jumpers.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "T.E.Dickey" <dickey@shell.clark.net>
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: lynx 2.8 not 8bit clean on NeXT, Ultrix
Date: 14 Jun 1998 03:10:31 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
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References: <6lrelj$8lq$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <6lsejc$liv$2@clarknet.clark.net> <1dakdkx.17qxd471yi0pqfN@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de>
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In comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
: T.E.Dickey <dickey@shell.clark.net> wrote:
:> the "old" BSD curses is not itself 8-bit clean (doesn't matter what Lynx
:> does). Try building with ncurses, which is.
: I see. But how come this was not an issue with lynx versions prior to
: 2.8?
I'm not sure: are you referring to a copy of lynx which you built yourself,
or that someone else packaged? The default for the 2.8 configure script
uses 'curses' - for several reasons. In pre-2.8, you had on netbsd
the choice between "netbsd" and "netbsd-ncurses" (or "generic"). So unless
you built with ncurses before, I'd expect the same problem.
--
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http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <3379897192022@digifix.com>
Date: 14 Jun 1998 03:49:15 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <28217897796825@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
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The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
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ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: lynx 2.8 not 8bit clean on NeXT, Ultrix
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 11:50:18 +0200
Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin
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References: <6lrelj$8lq$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <6lsejc$liv$2@clarknet.clark.net> <1dakdkx.17qxd471yi0pqfN@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> <6lvev7$ipl$1@clarknet.clark.net>
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T.E.Dickey <dickey@shell.clark.net> wrote:
> In comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc Georg Schwarz
> <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote: : T.E.Dickey <dickey@shell.clark.net>
> wrote:
>
> :> the "old" BSD curses is not itself 8-bit clean (doesn't matter what Lynx
> :> does). Try building with ncurses, which is.
>
> : I see. But how come this was not an issue with lynx versions prior to
> : 2.8?
> I'm not sure: are you referring to a copy of lynx which you built yourself,
I'm refering to a copy of lynx 2.7.2 that I built myself using make
ultrix. The Makefile uses -DFANCY_CURSES, which I think makes the
difference. Trying to use that with 2.8.0 though yields complains that
some (BOLD, UNDERLINE) macros or such are not defined
> or that someone else packaged? The default for the 2.8 configure script
> uses 'curses' - for several reasons. In pre-2.8, you had on netbsd
> the choice between "netbsd" and "netbsd-ncurses" (or "generic"). So unless
> you built with ncurses before, I'd expect the same problem.
the point is in 2.7.2 for Ultrix I didn't need ncurses.
--
Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de
Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130
Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
From: "T.E.Dickey" <dickey@shell.clark.net>
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: lynx 2.8 not 8bit clean on NeXT, Ultrix
Date: 14 Jun 1998 10:33:11 GMT
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In comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
: T.E.Dickey <dickey@shell.clark.net> wrote:
:> In comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc Georg Schwarz
:> <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> wrote: : T.E.Dickey <dickey@shell.clark.net>
:> wrote:
:> :> the "old" BSD curses is not itself 8-bit clean (doesn't matter what Lynx
:> :> does). Try building with ncurses, which is.
:>
:> : I see. But how come this was not an issue with lynx versions prior to
:> : 2.8?
:> I'm not sure: are you referring to a copy of lynx which you built yourself,
: I'm refering to a copy of lynx 2.7.2 that I built myself using make
: ultrix. The Makefile uses -DFANCY_CURSES, which I think makes the
: difference. Trying to use that with 2.8.0 though yields complains that
: some (BOLD, UNDERLINE) macros or such are not defined
that's a problem.
:> or that someone else packaged? The default for the 2.8 configure script
:> uses 'curses' - for several reasons. In pre-2.8, you had on netbsd
:> the choice between "netbsd" and "netbsd-ncurses" (or "generic"). So unless
:> you built with ncurses before, I'd expect the same problem.
: the point is in 2.7.2 for Ultrix I didn't need ncurses.
oops - I was looking at the wrong rule (netbsd vs next ;-). Let's see.
For Ultrix: if you're not getting the A_BOLD, etc., macros then probably
I'm asking too much in my configure macro (see the test in aclocal.m4,
which combines the features that Lynx uses when FANCY_CURSES was defined).
I assume that Ultrix has only part of those features, so if I had the
config.log from your build of lynx+ncurses, I could redesign the test
so it'd work properly. Maybe a copy of the curses.h header also would
help.
btw, in the post-2.8, I made one fix for Ultrix, which puts the check
for -lcursesX before -lcurses (someone indicates this fixes another problem,
though it may be related as well, since my configure test checks for a
couple of functions that wouldn't be in _old_ curses).
--
Thomas E. Dickey
dickey@clark.net
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: lynx 2.8 not 8bit clean on NeXT, Ultrix
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 15:33:12 +0200
Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin
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T.E.Dickey <dickey@shell.clark.net> wrote:
> oops - I was looking at the wrong rule (netbsd vs next ;-). Let's see.
> For Ultrix: if you're not getting the A_BOLD, etc., macros then probably
> I'm asking too much in my configure macro (see the test in aclocal.m4,
> which combines the features that Lynx uses when FANCY_CURSES was defined).
> I assume that Ultrix has only part of those features, so if I had the
> config.log from your build of lynx+ncurses, I could redesign the test
> so it'd work properly. Maybe a copy of the curses.h header also would
> help.
I just fixed (i.e. worked around) the problem by explicitely specifying
-DHAVE_CURSESX_H -DFANCY_CURSES (I added that to CC which is probably
not the most elegant way) and after configure manually changing -lcurses
to -lcursesX in makefile and src/makefile before executing make. Looks
like the configure scripts should be improved with respect to Ultrix.
As with NeXT, as someone else told me, there's nothing to improve the
situation short of ncurses since the old BSD curses were not 8 bit clean
and could only do highlighting.
>
> btw, in the post-2.8, I made one fix for Ultrix, which puts the check
> for -lcursesX before -lcurses (someone indicates this fixes another problem,
> though it may be related as well, since my configure test checks for a
> couple of functions that wouldn't be in _old_ curses).
yes, maybe that fixes it. I hope so.
--
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Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130
Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@ti.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP choices for the NeXT
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:46:58 -0500
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Message-ID: <358533E2.DB24489@ti.com>
References: <6m23h5$pv7$1@eve.enteract.com> <1998061502034100.WAA11325@ladder01.news.aol.com> <6m23sd$q0t$1@eve.enteract.com>
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ginz1@juno.com wrote:
>
> This read me file was a huge help to me!!
> But remember I used the latest version of ppp not ppp-2.2
> Hope this helps.
> Carl...
Just a note of followup. These instructions really apply to
PPP-2.2. The latest (and suggested version of PPP) would
be PPP-2.3-0.5.1. This is available at:
ftp://ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ppp/dev/PPP-2.3.3-0.5.1.NI.pkg.tar.gz
I recommend this because the installer has been significantly reworked
and now automatically performs almost all the steps outlines in the
(rather long winded) instructions. Further, it allows you to easily
"uninstall" ppp if you choose.
2.3-0.5.1 also contains several bug fixes that could cause kernel panics.
- Steve
--
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Tel. +1(972)997-5413, Fax +1(972)997-5693, e-mail: perkins@ti.com
Texas Instruments, P.O. Box 655303, MS 8368, Dallas, TX 75265
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FreeBSD next to OPENSTEP
Date: 14 Jun 1998 15:27:24 GMT
Organization: computerActive Inc.
Message-ID: <6m0q4s$5u8$2@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
References: <3575E60F.4A6E5BD3@bananenbar.to.utwente.nl>
Marco van Hylckama Vlieg (marco@bananenbar.to.utwente.nl) wrote:
: I have a system with OPENSTEP 4.2 on the first partition of my
: harddrive. On the second
: one there's currently Linux. However I want to install FreeBSD on that
: partition.
: Can anyone tell me if this will hurt the OPENSTEP partition? How will
: I be able to
: boot OPENSTEP when the FreeBSD has overwritten the master boot record?
FreeBSD's multi-boot program is customizable and will let you make an
option for booting NeXTSTEP. Or, you could tell FreeBSD not to overwrite
your boot sector when doing the install. The normal distribution of
FreeBSD (ftp.freebsd.org or Walnut Creek CDROMs) has such an option in
the installer.
If you use NeXT's booter still, be aware that you will have to type the
fdisk partition number to boot FreeBSD, which sucks if you have
non-UNIX-weenies using your computer, since it's not very obvious.
I've switched from Linux to FreeBSD and back regularly on my tri-boot
system at home using the same partition. (NS 3.3, Win95, Linux/FreeBSD)
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
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From: "Jason Lincoln" <jlincoln@us.oracle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: OmniWeb 3 on OS 4.1
Date: 14 Jun 1998 17:08:22 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corp
Message-ID: <01bd97b6$2c32a300$73041990@rr-orc05>
Has anyone been able to run the newest version of OmniWeb on OS 4.1? I
believe it requires OS 4.2. I can get the application to run on OS 4.1 but
it will not display any Web pages.
Thanks,
Jason
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Jaz boot failure
Message-ID: <1998061519435600.PAA29458@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 15 Jun 1998 19:43:56 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <1998061514222200.KAA01401@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Just wanted to confirm that making the (single character!) change to the
etc/fstab file worked.
What was that old poem about "for want of a horseshoe nail?"
Thanks again everyone!
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Jaz boot failure
Date: 15 Jun 1998 08:48:26 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6m2n4q$gts2@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <1998061401160400.VAA05133@ladder01.news.aol.com>
WillAdams (willadams@aol.com) wrote:
: I used the disktab and scripts available from NeXTAnswers to build a bootable
: Jaz cartridge, but it's not working for me.
:
: It starts to boot, but keeps getting hung up at various points, sometimes
: generating error messages, brief extracts include:
: mountfs: illegal mount request
: mount /dev/sd0a on / invalid argument
Here lies your problem!!!
: /usr/etc/mach_swap_on failed no such file or directory
: cannote create /dev/log Read only file system
:
: it hangs at netinfo and other places too.
:
: It's a 25MHz 68K Cube with 40 MB RAM and a small HD at SCSI ID0. I'm trying to
: boot with the command bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1a
:
: I'd be obliged at any assistance anyone [...]
Well I hope it is as simple as that: Although you do give the correct
boot-commandline, UNIX (script /etc/rc) still evaluates the /etc/fstab
file when mounting filesystems. There it finds /dev/sd0a for '/' (root)
and it should be /dev/sd1a ('1' instead of '0') in your case [The '1'
is not directly due to the fact that the SCSI ID might be 1, but is
the second(!) SCSI-device on the controller, and counting from '0' this
makes it '1'!!!].
So just changing /etc/fstab on the JAZ-medium to reflect this alternate
'root-filesystem-device' should solve your problem. You can do so by
booting with the CD as root-device, manual mounting the JAZ-medium and
the editing "JAZ"/etc/fstab - if you have difficulties with 'vi' - as
'/tmp' seems unwriteable :-) -, use pico (or whatever).
Greetings,
Ruediger Oberhage
--
H.-R. Oberhage
Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Jaz boot failure
Date: 15 Jun 1998 09:06:58 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6m2o7i$gts5@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <1998061401160400.VAA05133@ladder01.news.aol.com>
WillAdams (willadams@aol.com) wrote:
: I used the disktab and scripts available from NeXTAnswers to build a bootable
: Jaz cartridge, but it's not working for me.
:
: It starts to boot, but keeps getting hung up at various points, sometimes
: generating error messages, brief extracts include:
: mountfs: illegal mount request
: mount /dev/sd0a on / invalid argument
Here lies your problem!!!
: /usr/etc/mach_swap_on failed no such file or directory
: cannote create /dev/log Read only file system
:
: it hangs at netinfo and other places too.
:
: It's a 25MHz 68K Cube with 40 MB RAM and a small HD at SCSI ID0. I'm trying to
: boot with the command bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1a
:
: I'd be obliged at any assistance anyone could offer. [...]
Well I hope it is as simple as that: Although you do give the correct
boot-commandline, UNIX (script /etc/rc) still evaluates the /etc/fstab
file when mounting filesystems. There it finds /dev/sd0a for '/' (root)
and it should be /dev/sd1a ('1' instead of '0') in your case [The '1'
is not directly due to the fact that the SCSI ID might be 1, but is
the second(!) SCSI-device on the controller, and counting from '0' this
makes it '1'!!!].
So just changing /etc/fstab on the JAZ-medium to reflect this alternate
'root-filesystem-device' should solve your problem. You can do so by
booting with the CD as root-device, manual mounting the JAZ-medium and
the editing "JAZ"/etc/fstab - if you have difficulties with 'vi' - as
'/tmp' seems unwriteable :-) -, use pico (or whatever).
Greetings,
Ruediger Oberhage
--
H.-R. Oberhage
Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
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Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets
From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG
Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer
Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets
Message-ID: <19980616.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG>
References: <19980609.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG>
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Date: 16 Jun 1998 01:00:00 +0100
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From: hacker@clark.net (Dark Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Can Thoughtport PPP talk to an internal modem?
Date: 16 Jun 1998 03:47:15 GMT
Organization: Fortress Of Computation
Message-ID: <6m4ps3$qki$1@clarknet.clark.net>
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Well there it is. My OpenStep Intel box has an ineternal PCI modem
yet the Thoughtport PPP scripts want to talk to an external modem,
and I *don't* want to connect an external to this machine just for
PPP.
So how to tell Thoughtport PPP to recognize my PCI bus internal modem?
- Hacker
--
Dark Hacker | Hacker and Fortress web mechanic
The Guardians Of Computation | Fortress Of Computation
mail: hacker@computation.com | web: http://www.computation.com/pub/hacker/
____________________________________________________________________
From: alan@gibbs.me.ttu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Openwrite and spell checking in OS 4.2
Date: 16 Jun 1998 04:39:41 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <6m4sud$boe@ttacs7.ttu.edu>
Keywords: openwrite,spell check
Hello,
A while back I caught the tail end of post on how to fix the
broken spell checker in Openwrite, I tried what I saw to no avail. Can
somebody tell me what to do to fix this annoyance. Please email me a
copy of the fix. Thanks in advance.
--
AB
_______________________________________________________________
Alan A. Barhorst | alan@osci.me.ttu.edu
Mechanical Engineering | http://www.osci.ttu.edu/
Texas Tech University | NeXT, MIME, Sun, & ASCII mail
From: trail@ix.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Can Thoughtport PPP talk to an internal modem?
Date: 16 Jun 1998 14:29:35 GMT
Organization: ICGNetcom
Message-ID: <6m5vgf$jvp@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
References: <6m4ps3$qki$1@clarknet.clark.net>
In-Reply-To: <6m4ps3$qki$1@clarknet.clark.net>
On 06/16/98, Dark Hacker wrote:
>
>Well there it is. My OpenStep Intel box has an ineternal PCI modem
>yet the Thoughtport PPP scripts want to talk to an external modem,
>and I *don't* want to connect an external to this machine just for
>PPP.
>
>So how to tell Thoughtport PPP to recognize my PCI bus internal
modem?
>
I have an Intel NeXT 3.2 machine utilizing an internal ISA modem.
You'll need to know what serial port the modem is using and setup your
chat script using that port number.
Email me if you have any questions.
Regards,
Jeff
trail@ix.netcom.com
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite and spell checking in OS 4.2
Message-ID: <1998061615572800.LAA01062@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 16 Jun 1998 15:57:28 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6m4sud$boe@ttacs7.ttu.edu>
I'm afraid I can't find my copy of this fix either, but did find on
www.dejanews.com this message which may be of use:
I submitted NextStep 3.3 spell checkers that work with OpenWrite to
peanuts.leo.org last weekend. (Today is April 28, 1998 ) Within a few
days, they should be available to the outside world.
The previous versions were to be found as
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/NEXTSTEP/text/services/Ortho.* I assume that what I
submitted this weekend will land in the same location.
--
===============================================================================
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===============================================================================
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite and spell checking in OS 4.2
Message-ID: <1998061616004600.MAA27249@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 16 Jun 1998 16:00:45 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6m4sud$boe@ttacs7.ttu.edu>
And here's the original message:
From a message by Felipe A. Rodriguez:
I had not even realized this was broken until Randy Jackson
mentioned it below. But then backward compatability was not one
of NeXT's strong points :-(
Anyhow... A workaround solution is as follows:
Get the 3.3 User CD and copy
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
to
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
(note the capitalization) then copy
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/nextspell
to
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/NeXTspell
finally, link
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/Resources/bindict
to
/usr/lib/NextStep/Resources/bindict
At which point you should have a working OW spellchecker.
Miraculously, spell checking in 4.2 apps like Mail and Edit still
seems to work.
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ImageMagic convert compiled for NS 3.0??
Date: 16 Jun 1998 17:07:06 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <6m68nq$roc$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
I'm looking for an m68k binary of the convert program from ImageMagic
for NS3.x.
I don't have X11, so can't compile from source. Just want it for
command-line use.
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail OK)
Psychology Dept
York University Voice: 416 736-5115 Fax: 416 736-5814
4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite and spell checking in OS 4.2
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References: <6m4sud$boe@ttacs7.ttu.edu> <1998061616004600.MAA27249@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Message-ID: <00Ah1.34525$BE5.7746655@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:50:20 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:50:20 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
In <1998061616004600.MAA27249@ladder03.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
> I had not even realized this was broken until Randy Jackson
> mentioned it below. But then backward compatability was not one
> of NeXT's strong points :-(
Almost all binaries from 2.x days still run under 4.2 and there was an
operating system change in there somewhere around 4.0 -- that ought to count
for something of a "strong point"!
Admittedly this spell checker thing was a bit of a pain but I don't think it
comes anywhere near outweighing the benefit of being able to run Date.app
under 4.2 :-) [now if they had just come out with an Intel version of
Date.app, I would have been very happy]
TjL
--
"soon": (adv) a time interval somewhere between this afternoon and
the end of the world, if all goes as according to plan"
-- From the Dictionary for Marketing
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ssh-1.2.25 and Openstep 4.x problem
Date: 16 Jun 1998 21:46:23 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Message-ID: <6m6p3f$6rt$1@news.tamu.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jun 1998 21:46:23 GMT
I have successfully compiled and installed shh-1.2.25 on 4.1 for
Intel, but I'm having trouble with it on 4.0 on black hardware. The
compilation goes fine, but when I get to the key generation part of
the installation, it just loops with a message like this:
Generating 1024 bit host key.
Initializing random number generator...
Generating p: ....................++ (distance 360)
Generating q: ............++ (distance 148)
Computing the keys...
Testing the keys...
**** private+public failed to decrypt.
I tried setting the number of bits for the key to a smaller value, but
same problem. Does anyone have a suggestion for what I might need to
change?
(BTW, to get the compilation to work on Intel, you need to configure
with --disable-asm; I've tried it both ways on black, but no luck.)
--
Colin Allen
http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite and spell checking in OS 4.2
Message-ID: <1998061622063000.SAA14065@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 16 Jun 1998 22:06:30 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <00Ah1.34525$BE5.7746655@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
>> I had not even realized this was broken until Randy Jackson
>> mentioned it below. But then backward compatability was not one
>> of NeXT's strong points :-(
I'd just like to point out that the above quote was by Felipe A. Rodriguez, not
me.
Furthermore, I'd like to note that there was one application from 2.x days
which doesn't work on NS 3.1 or OS 4.2, FrameMaker 2.x (sorry, too lazy to look
up wht exact version number 2.01d, I think). This was the cause of a great deal
of difficulty for me.
As a replacement for Date.app on Intel, may I suggest kfc.app? Kurt's Free
Calendar, it's on one of the European objectware sites, I think www.misckit.com
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ssh-1.2.25 and Openstep 4.x problem
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:54:15 -0500
Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <distler-1606982154150001@dial-113-42.ots.utexas.edu>
References: <6m6p3f$6rt$1@news.tamu.edu>
/gnVR"|LWyKVK{`$&t&`k{]Q^x*"ihe+^hTvWs@IEMtYI5RVzGFBPcMu`}>@#^Fm:<)M
w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK?
In article <6m6p3f$6rt$1@news.tamu.edu>, colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin
Allen) wrote:
> I have successfully compiled and installed shh-1.2.25 on 4.1 for
> Intel, but I'm having trouble with it on 4.0 on black hardware. The
> compilation goes fine, but when I get to the key generation part of
> the installation, it just loops with a message like this:
>
> Generating 1024 bit host key.
> Initializing random number generator...
> Generating p: ....................++ (distance 360)
> Generating q: ............++ (distance 148)
> Computing the keys...
> Testing the keys...
> **** private+public failed to decrypt.
>
> I tried setting the number of bits for the key to a smaller value, but
> same problem. Does anyone have a suggestion for what I might need to
> change?
>
> (BTW, to get the compilation to work on Intel, you need to configure
> with --disable-asm; I've tried it both ways on black, but no luck.)
Offhand, it sounds like a problem with the GMP libraries. They may have
"compiled OK", but they may not be working right. Try linking to the GMP
libraries that came with the NeXTStep SSH distribution on PEAK instead.
Makefile.in.diffs:
262,263c262,263
< GMPLIBS = -L$(GMPDIR) -lgmp
< GMPDEP = $(GMPDIR)/gmp.h $(GMPDIR)/libgmp.a
---
> GMPLIBS = -L/usr/local/lib -lgmp
> GMPDEP = /usr/local/include/gmp.h /usr/local/lib/libgmp.a
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From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ssh-1.2.25 and Openstep 4.x problem
Date: 17 Jun 1998 04:03:01 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Message-ID: <6m7f5l$t23$1@news.tamu.edu>
References: <6m6p3f$6rt$1@news.tamu.edu> <distler-1606982154150001@dial-113-42.ots.utexas.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Jun 1998 04:03:01 GMT
Jacques Distler <distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu> wrote:
>Offhand, it sounds like a problem with the GMP libraries. They may have
>"compiled OK", but they may not be working right. Try linking to the GMP
>libraries that came with the NeXTStep SSH distribution on PEAK instead.
Good suggestion and...I'd try it but the distribution on PEAK doesn't
seem to have the GMP libraries - viz. 'gnutar ztf ssh.pkg/ssh.tar.gz'
output listed below. I also checked the GMP.framework version and
although it has a symlink for Libraries, there's nothing there.
I've also run into a problem with the 1.2.23 installation on black/4.0
but I'll describe that in a separate message.
Here (if anyone is interested) are the contents of the 1.2.23 package.
> gnutar ztf ssh.pkg/ssh.tar.gz
./
bin/
bin/make-ssh-known-hosts
bin/scp
bin/ssh
bin/ssh-add
bin/ssh-agent
bin/ssh-keygen
bin/slogin
man/
man/man1/
man/man1/make-ssh-known-hosts.1
man/man1/scp.1
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man/man1/ssh-keygen.1
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src/ssh-1.2.23/ChangeLog
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src/ssh-1.2.23/config.sample
src/ssh-1.2.23/host_config.sample
src/ssh-1.2.23/server_config.sample
src/ssh-1.2.23/config.h
src/ssh-1.2.23/Makefile
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sbin/sshd
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From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ssh-1.2.23 (was Re: ssh-1.2.25 and Openstep 4.x problem)
Date: 17 Jun 1998 04:13:17 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Message-ID: <6m7fot$ff$1@news.tamu.edu>
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I installed sshd and ssh version 1.2.23 on my cube running OS4.0 and
they work, except for one problem that makes the client (ssh)
unusable.
If I'm telnetted into the cube and then try to start an ssh connection
to another machine (or the same one), everything goes fine: I'm
prompted for the password, log in, etc., except that the password that
is entered after the prompt is echoed back to the terminal - readable
to any bystander. This problem does not occur if the original
connection to the cube is via rlogin or ssh, only with telnet.
This suggests a bug in the readpass.c file, but I don't know enough
about the tty settings to figure out how to fix it, and besides, the
pkg for 1.2.23 on the peak site lacks the source code and the only
reason for my trying to install it is the problem described with
1.2.25 elsewhere in this thread.
But, if anyone has an easy fix, please let me know.
--
Colin Allen
http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
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From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ssh-1.2.23 (was Re: ssh-1.2.25 and Openstep 4.x problem)
Date: 17 Jun 1998 07:02:26 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Message-ID: <6m7pm2$evn$1@news.tamu.edu>
References: <6m6p3f$6rt$1@news.tamu.edu> <6m7fot$ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <distler-1706980119580001@dial-31-15.ots.utexas.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Jun 1998 07:02:26 GMT
Jacques Distler <distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu> wrote:
>Doesn't it defeat the purpose of SSH to start an ssh session over a telnet
>connection?
>The telnet connection is unencrypted, so your password is transmitted in
>the clear.
I suppose you're right about it defeating the purpose, although I can
imagine a case where you don't have an ssh client so you telnet to a
machine and then want to get a secure connection from that machine to
a third. However, I discovered this problem because I was telnetted
into the cube compiling the ssh code, and when I had finished
installing it I decided to test both the server and client by starting
an ssh connection to the localhost. Seems to me that even though one
might only rarely do this, it still shouldn't happen that the password
gets displayed on the screen.
>Personally, I've never seen this problem, but then I don't usually use the
>mixture of encrypted and unencrypted connections that you describe.
I'd be interested to know if it does happen if you do - if you can
find a moment when no one is in the room looking over your shoulder.
I managed to reproduce it with a telnet connection back to my
intel/OpenStep machine, but an ssh session started from a telnet
connection on a sun4 did not show the password.
BTW, thanks for the url for the gmp files. I already tried the ones
in the generic ssh-1.2.23 distribution, but I'll give it a go again
with the one from the next site.
--
Colin Allen
http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ssh-1.2.25 and Openstep 4.x problem
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 01:10:44 -0500
Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <distler-1706980110450001@dial-31-15.ots.utexas.edu>
References: <6m6p3f$6rt$1@news.tamu.edu> <distler-1606982154150001@dial-113-42.ots.utexas.edu> <6m7f5l$t23$1@news.tamu.edu>
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w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK?
In article <6m7f5l$t23$1@news.tamu.edu>, colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin
Allen) wrote:
> Jacques Distler <distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu> wrote:
> >Offhand, it sounds like a problem with the GMP libraries. They may have
> >"compiled OK", but they may not be working right. Try linking to the GMP
> >libraries that came with the NeXTStep SSH distribution on PEAK instead.
>
> Good suggestion and...I'd try it but the distribution on PEAK doesn't
> seem to have the GMP libraries - viz. 'gnutar ztf ssh.pkg/ssh.tar.gz'
> output listed below. I also checked the GMP.framework version and
> although it has a symlink for Libraries, there's nothing there.
>
Sigh.
Hard to keep all this stuff in my head:
<ftp://next-ftp.peak.org//pub/next/apps/devtools/gmp.2.0.2.pl2.NIHS.b.tar.gz>
or
<ftp://next-ftp.peak.org//pub/next/apps/devtools/gmp.2.0.2.pl2.NIHS.b.generic.tar.gz>
JD
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From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ssh-1.2.23 (was Re: ssh-1.2.25 and Openstep 4.x problem)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 01:19:58 -0500
Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <distler-1706980119580001@dial-31-15.ots.utexas.edu>
References: <6m6p3f$6rt$1@news.tamu.edu> <6m7fot$ff$1@news.tamu.edu>
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w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK?
In article <6m7fot$ff$1@news.tamu.edu>, colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin
Allen) wrote:
> If I'm telnetted into the cube and then try to start an ssh connection
> to another machine (or the same one), everything goes fine: I'm
> prompted for the password, log in, etc., except that the password that
> is entered after the prompt is echoed back to the terminal - readable
> to any bystander. This problem does not occur if the original
> connection to the cube is via rlogin or ssh, only with telnet.
>
Doesn't it defeat the purpose of SSH to start an ssh session over a telnet
connection?
The telnet connection is unencrypted, so your password is transmitted in
the clear.
Personally, I've never seen this problem, but then I don't usually use the
mixture of encrypted and unencrypted connections that you describe.
JD
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Subject: Graphic configuration with AGP
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Subject: When to find chinese fonts for OpenSTEP 4.1 Intel?
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Many thanks.
Best regards,
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From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Rhapsody and fonts
Date: 18 Jun 1998 11:58:21 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
Message-ID: <6mavct$7e2$1@leonie.object-factory.com>
References: <ygc1zsuiihx.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me> <mrb-1306980124370001@ip-206-79-223-145.dialup.autobahn.org>
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mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles) wrote:
> In article
> <ygc1zsuiihx.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me>,
> smithw@tank (Dr. William V. Smith) wrote:
>
> > I have a lot of fonts on my cube (NS3.3) that I would like
> > to transport to a mac g3 (DR2 side). I tried the obvious
> > things (copying the font files over, erasing the .fontlist
> > etc. files and letting DR2 build new ones, etc.) But the
> > new fonts don't appear. Anyone had success with this (I'd
> > like to avoid mucking with each font separately.)
> >
> > -Bill
>
>
> I'm sorry if this would have been counted in the "obvious" things to do,
> but did you try typing "buildafmdir /NextLibrary/Fonts/"?
Doesn't work. This seems to be a search path issue. If you install additional
fonts in /System/Library/Fonts and run buildafmdir 'old' NEXTSTEP fonts are
used correctly.
regards,
erik
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From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: VIM
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References: <6mbpqq$ndt$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:49:12 GMT
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In <6mbpqq$ndt$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk> Thomas Harte wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a version of Vim for OPENSTEP?
> (cf. http://www.vim.org)
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/unix/editor/
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From: jsd@gnyg.DOTcom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Rhapsody & Color Printers?
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Date: 18 Jun 1998 20:05:27 GMT
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Are there any exceptional quality color ink jet printers such as the Epson
Color Stylus 3000 which work with Rhapsody?
Direct E-mail responses are appreciated but please remove the Spam "DOT"
Guard first.
Many Thanks,
J.D. - jsd@gnyg.DOTcom
From: "closestep" <closestep@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GIMP and OpenUp?
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:36:47 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6mbttf$etg$1@news.missouri.edu>
are there anyone using GIMP on OPENSTEP/NeXTStep?
I'm going to download it for my NeXT... but I'm not sure for the
compatible..
Also, I download OpenUp from stepwise.. it's in *.tar.gz oh! i download
from my PC and copy it to NeXT. how can I make it works? it seems NeXT
doesn't recognize this file at all.. (after i change its name to the full
name).
:)
close close
From: "closestep" <closestep@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GIMP and OpenUp?
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:36:47 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6mbvb7$1dno$1@news.missouri.edu>
are there anyone using GIMP on OPENSTEP/NeXTStep?
I'm going to download it for my NeXT... but I'm not sure for the
compatible..
Also, I download OpenUp from stepwise.. it's in *.tar.gz oh! i download
from my PC and copy it to NeXT. how can I make it works? it seems NeXT
doesn't recognize this file at all.. (after i change its name to the full
name).
:)
close close
From: "closestep" <closestep@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: newsgroup
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:33:13 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <6mc888$175s$1@news.missouri.edu>
how can you guys read news (newsgroup) from your next?
normally, i use dejanews page.. but ... are there any particular application
for this purspose?
thanks.
regards...
close
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIMP and OpenUp?
Date: 19 Jun 1998 03:42:19 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <6mcmmr$27j$1@news.digifix.com>
References: <6mbttf$etg$1@news.missouri.edu>
In-Reply-To: <6mbttf$etg$1@news.missouri.edu>
On 06/18/98, "closestep" wrote:
>are there anyone using GIMP on OPENSTEP/NeXTStep?
>I'm going to download it for my NeXT... but I'm not sure for the
>compatible..
>
>Also, I download OpenUp from stepwise.. it's in *.tar.gz oh! i
download
>from my PC and copy it to NeXT. how can I make it works? it seems
NeXT
>doesn't recognize this file at all.. (after i change its name to the
full
>name).
There are decompression instructions for OpenUp on Stepwise
http://www.stepwise.com/Software/OpenUp
near the bottom of the page..
--
Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com>
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: anyone have tcpdump more recent than ver 3.0.4 or pcap.h ?
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I downloaded the source for ver 3.4a6 from ftp://ee.lbl.gov/
"./configure" works, but "make" fails after one line:
$ make
cc -O -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DTIME_WITH_SYS_TIME=1
-DHAVE_VFPRINTF=1 -DHAVE_STRCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_ETHER_NTOA=1 -DHAVE_SETLINEBUF=1
-DRETSIGTYPE=void -DRETSIGVAL= -Dint32_t=int -Du_int32_t=u_int -DLBL_ALIGN=1
-DHAVE_FDDI -I. -I/usr/local/include -c ./tcpdump.c
For architecture m68k:
./tcpdump.c:43: header file 'pcap.h' not found
./tcpdump.c:88: undefined type, found `pcap_handler'
./tcpdump.c:106: undefined type, found `pcap_handler'
./tcpdump.c:119: undefined type, found `pcap_t'
./tcpdump.c:129: undefined type, found `bpf_u_int32'
./tcpdump.c:131: undefined type, found `pcap_handler'
./tcpdump.c:338: undefined type, found `pcap_dumper_t'
*** Exit 1
Stop.
I was going to try and compile for NeXT and Intel at least (more if
possible).
The CHANGELOG says that version 3.4 came out Wed Sep 24 19:51:33 PDT 1997 so
I'm thinking/hoping that someone somewhere might have had time to compile
this puppy...
TjL
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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References: <6mc888$175s$1@news.missouri.edu>
Message-ID: <nHji1.34647$BE5.9171956@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 02:05:07 GMT
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Organization: @Home Network
In <6mc888$175s$1@news.missouri.edu> "closestep" wrote:
> how can you guys read news (newsgroup) from your next?
> normally, i use dejanews page.. but ... are there any particular
application
> for this purspose?
I like RadicalNews but there are others as well:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/news/RadicalNews.0.9.5.NIHS.b.tar.gz
Commercial:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/news/
Free:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/news/
TjL
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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite and spell checking in OS 4.2
Date: 16 Jun 98 21:10:59
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SCOTT.98Jun16211059@slave.doubleu.com>
References: <00Ah1.34525$BE5.7746655@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
<1998061622063000.SAA14065@ladder01.news.aol.com>
In-reply-to: willadams@aol.com's message of 16 Jun 1998 22:06:30 GMT
In article <1998061622063000.SAA14065@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) writes:
Furthermore, I'd like to note that there was one application from
2.x days which doesn't work on NS 3.1 or OS 4.2, FrameMaker 2.x
(sorry, too lazy to look up wht exact version number 2.01d, I
think). This was the cause of a great deal of difficulty for me.
My curious nature makes me wonder if it would work with the shlib hack
that was necessary to make Icon and Scene work? You copied the 2.1
shlibs to your 3.x system, and then editted the Icon and Scene
executables to refer to the new location rather than the old. So, for
instance, you replaced /usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib with
/2.1/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib.
_Then_, you turn on public window server. Voila! Icon and Scene
work, at least for now, at least under NS3.3,
--
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<Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots
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From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Color Prints in CMYK -- how?
Date: 19 Jun 1998 09:28:37 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6mdb05$8bs$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Hello,
I am pretty desperate by now and need help. What I am trying to do is print
to a Fiery color laser printer (which knows PostScript). Should be easy,
especially from a NeXT who swims in PS like fish in water -- you would
think...
I installed the PPD file for the Fiery (EFXJR303.ppd) and it shows up in the
print panel. Great! Even printing works, BUT: the colors don't come out
right! Especially shades of blue tend to be shades of purple! But not all
shades of blue, only some! I am lost!!
Now I know that the Fiery printer has a CMYK color system (it says so in the
print panel; the only alternative is greyscale, yuck!). While the NeXT (NS3.3
intel) has RGB, I suppose. Maybe this has to do with my problems?
Is there an application on the NeXT that could convert RGB-PS to CMYK-PS? Or
somehow do a gamma-correction (is this the right stuff?) to adjust the blue
for the Fiery printer?
I always thought, once I have the correct PPD file, everything is "go" for a
postscript printer, but obviously not. Could someone with more insight than
me please enlighten me a bit as to what is going on here and how things are
connected? And maybe what to do to fix my problem??
Any help, by email (heller@lrz.de) or posting GREATLY appreciated!
Thanks,
Helmut
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From: colombet@arles.timone.univ-mrs.fr (Bruno Colombet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where to get OpenStep license ?
Date: 19 Jun 1998 09:28:44 GMT
Organization: Universites d' Aix en Provence
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Hi,
we are actually working on NS 3.3 but the OS is not supported anymore.
So the intermediate solution is to try porting our applications under
OpenStep. May I ask to Apple for an OpenStep license ?
Thanks for any help.
--
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Laboratoire de Neuropsychologie et Neurophysiologie
+33 (0)4 91 32 46 13 (direct)
+33 (0)4 91 32 43 69 (secr. + répondeur)
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From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where to get OpenStep license ?
Date: 19 Jun 1998 15:16:29 GMT
Organization: UC Davis - Department of Applied Science
Message-ID: <6mdvcd$hs4$2@mark.ucdavis.edu>
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In <6mdb0c$6mh$3@news.univ-aix.fr> Bruno Colombet wrote:
> Hi,
> we are actually working on NS 3.3 but the OS is not supported anymore.
> So the intermediate solution is to try porting our applications under
> OpenStep. May I ask to Apple for an OpenStep license ?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
They are still selling OpenStep 4.2 licenses. Check out
http://www.next.com/ which directs you to the Apple Enterprise site.
--
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UC Davis - Department of Applied Science
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________________________________________________
From: Thomas.Tschannen@ivi.admin.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X-Client
Date: 19 Jun 98 13:37:08 GMT
Organization: Unisource Business Networks
Message-ID: <358a6984.0@fwsrva.bfi.admin.ch>
Hi,
I know there are several X servers for OPENSTEP systems (like co-Xist).
But would there be a X-client as well ?
Thanks for your help!
With kind regards,
Thomas
From: gxa114@wileypost.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Burning a NeXT CD from WinNT?
Date: 19 Jun 1998 14:31:56 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <6mdsos$t96@r02n01.cac.psu.edu>
I want to burn a CD for my NeXT of downloads from Peak, I'll be doing this
at work from NT. What do I need to do see the full names under NeXTSTEP?
I knoe NT uses Joliet, does NeXTSTEP use Rockridge or something else?
Thanks,
Geof
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...
ge extended CD.
If you just store gzipped packages, 8.3 names are usable. If you need
long names however, you have two options:
- use CDDesigner.app to create a raw image under NeXTSTEP
- create a Macintosh CD, or a hybrid NT / Mac CD
HTH, Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: "Cliff Leong" <cleong@jerseycow.com>
Subject: CD-R burning app for 3.3 or 4.2?
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009E_01BD9B7E.9C95A7C0"
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Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:34:33 GMT
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextPart_000_009E_01BD9B7E.9C95A7C0
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charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are there CD-R burning apps for NS3.3 or OS4.2? Someone mentioned =
Rockridge, but I'm not sure what it is.
Thanks.
Cliff
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<META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Are there CD-R burning apps for =
NS3.3 or=20
OS4.2? Someone mentioned Rockridge, but I'm not sure what it=20
is.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Cliff</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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From: hotrod@koan.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ***60 GOOD Games on one CD *****
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:45:01 PDT
Organization: The World's Usenet -- http://www.Supernews.com
Message-ID: <6mebgt$n4r$4@supernews.com>
Over 60 Good Games on one CD Cheap. E-mail for the complete list.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ergo@camelot.in-berlin.de (Olaf Foellinger)
Subject: Re: X-Client
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:59:29 GMT
In <358a6984.0@fwsrva.bfi.admin.ch> Thomas.Tschannen@ivi.admin.ch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I know there are several X servers for OPENSTEP systems (like co-Xist).
> But would there be a X-client as well ?
Xnext (http://www.angelfire.com/biz/sle/Xnext.html) includes a client as well.
Greetings Olaf
--
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NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
From: Drive
Subject: Drive any new car for $100 p/month.
Message-ID: <aJPSTF1m9GA.159@cidintnews.infosel.com.mx>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 02:10:22 -0500
Drive any new car for $100 p/month.
Any Make
Any Model
Any Price
No Down Payment!
No Bank Fees!
No Security Deposits!
Home Based Biz. Opportunity-NOT MLM!
For more information,
call 716-389-9669 and a live operator will take down your Name, Address, Phone,
Fax (optional), and email (optional) so that we can send you an information package.
It is important that you give this information, since we will not send any info without it.
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pastry for OS4.2??
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 06:09:59 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
Sender: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller)
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Hello,
I tried to get in touch with the author of Pastry.app (davisre@netcom.com)
but the email bounced. So I am trying via the newsnet. Do other users of
OS4.2 have similar problems with Pastry (I am using version 1.2.0.21)?
I really got used to Pastry.app under NS3.3.
Now I am running OS4.2 and Pastry does not seem to work well any more: very
often it looses the connection to the system and copy/paste actions do no
longer trigger it. Do you know what I mean? You copy s.th., but it does not
appear in Pastry's shelf.
Is there a version for OS4.2 or are you willing to release the source?
Thanks a lot for this nice tool!
--
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Phone: +49-8671-881665 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
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From: Dan <"dan "@at recycled .dot net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP; NIS environment
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Message-ID: <BUyi1.467$L%.34813340@elnws01.ce.mediaone.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:23:13 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:23:13 CDT
Organization: MediaOne Express -=- Central Region
I've been bitten with the drag the NeXT out of the closet again and get
it going bug; hey, it's a good activity for the rainy weekend we're
about to have. :)
The NeXT is a ColorStation with 40Mb RAM and a 2Gb disk. I'm probably
going to load OPENSTEP 4.2 on it, although I also have a copy of 3.3 I
could load...
The last time I loaded either, I had an exceptionally difficult time
getting the NeXT to use NetInfo as little as possible but to rely on
local files for its configs and NIS for users and groups. I would always
manage to do something that would keep the system from booting properly,
but now, months later I cannot remember what it was.
Can someone do me the favor of giving me a checklist of what I need to
do to get NetInfo as minimized in my config as possible? I'd really
appreciate it...
Also, on a totally unrelated note -- has anyone done any work to support
Java under NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP?
Any help appreciated. :)
dan at recycled dot net
Message-ID: <358B19F6.11FF@conix3d.com>
From: Robert Beretta <beretta@conix3d.com>
Organization: Conix Enterprises
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Conix OpenGL for Rhapsody DR2
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 02:06:25 GMT
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#### Announcing Conix OpenGL for Rhapsody DR2. ####
Conix OpenGL for Rhapsody is available now for alpha testing.
Interested developers please read on.
------------------------------------------------------------------
* Conix OpenGL supports the complete OpenGL 1.1 and GLU 1.2
APIs.
* OpenGL is integrated with the YellowBox environment with a
new objective C framework.
* The Conix OpenGL renderers are based on the same proprietary
rendering code base that is used for our MacOS products.
* A port of SGI's "tk" library is provided along with several
compiled demos programs. Source for the demos and tk library
is also provided.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Please note: This is a VERY alpha release. The only documentation
available (other than the standard OpenGL docs) is the demo source
code and OpenGL headers. Those with experience in both OpenGL
and OpenStep programming will find it useful - others should wait
for a beta release. The new objective C components in the API
are sure to change substantially before release - constructive
criticism is very welcome.
Potential alpha testers should contact beretta@conix3d.com or
tech@conix3d.com to get an alpha test agreement and download URL.
--
Bob Beretta
Conix Enterprises
beretta@conix3d.com
805-544-0279
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <28217897796825@digifix.com>
Date: 21 Jun 1998 03:49:16 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <12114898401620@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
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These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
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(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
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sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
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SEARCH NetInfo domain
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address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
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If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
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Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: X-Client
Date: 20 Jun 1998 18:41:01 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <6mgvnt$4hs$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
References: <358a6984.0@fwsrva.bfi.admin.ch> <EutBF5.Ftw@camelot.in-berlin.de>
Olaf Foellinger (ergo@camelot.in-berlin.de) wrote:
: In <358a6984.0@fwsrva.bfi.admin.ch> Thomas.Tschannen@ivi.admin.ch wrote:
: > I know there are several X servers for OPENSTEP systems (like co-Xist).
: > But would there be a X-client as well ?
: Xnext (http://www.angelfire.com/biz/sle/Xnext.html) includes a client as well.
Remember that 'client' in X-Window terminology means the machine that the
program runs on. The server is the machine with the display.
Anyways, I use Cub'X from Inutitive Systems at url
http://www.intuisys.com/cubx/cindex.html
It is a really nice implementation, and has optional Motif, and comes with
a lot of precompiled freeware. I haven't used Xnext which is certainly
cheaper, so I can't really say how they compare. Cub'X has one advantage
in that you can run concurrently inside the NeXTSTEP desktop (ie NeXT and
X apps float around together on the screen).
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
csaldanh@computerActive.com (NeXT/MIME)| Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Boot up options...
Date: 21 Jun 1998 12:41:44 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <6miv28$g1b$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
References: <358C2880.171938F2@indigo.ie>
rankin (rankin@indigo.ie) wrote:
: I am a new Openstep/Mach user on an Intel machine. Until recently, I had
: a choice between Nextstep, Win95 and NT on startup. However, since
: having to re-install Win95 due to a software problem, I have to use the
: fdisk DOS utility to assign the active bootup partition. This is very
: inconvenient! Any ideas?
Win95 generally deletes the NeXT booter. You can recover this from
OpenStep using 'disk -b' on the command line. Read the manpage for 'disk'.
: Also, Nextstep cannot see my serial port modem. Again, help would be
: welcome!
What do you mean 'can't see' (ie which program)? Do you have serial
port drivers for each port and the tty port server installed in the
'Other' configuration in the Configure.app? You need that tty port
server...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | Computers are useless.
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | They can only give you answers.
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | -Pablo Picasso
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: install apache on NS3.3
Date: 21 Jun 1998 19:43:22 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6mkgca$ln3@slip.net>
Hi,
Might someone have some pointers on
how to install apache for NS 3.3?
I downloaded the 1.2.5 release at
peak and it has some binaries and
the following comment in the makefile :
# Makefile automatically generated from Makefile.tmpl
# and configuration file by Apache config script.
# Hand-edited changes will be lost if the config script
# is re-run
So I guess you can't jus ./Configure ; make install .
Should I just copy the binaries to /usr/local/bin ?
and install the Makefiles?
If so what modifications should I make to rc.local
to start up the various daemons?
Also, what should I have completed even before attempting
an install?
Thanks,
Emmett
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:41:44 -0500
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From: jofib@giolki.net (Serial # 0)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: hello
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:55:48 GMT
Organization: N.V. Casema Internet
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From: getry@hotmail.com (gerry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Internet Connection?
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:08:30 GMT
Organization: N.V. Casema Internet
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Hello anyone can help how to connect to the internet using
Openstep4.0. I am conected via cablemodem to the internet.
I also do have an ethernetcard, 3com etherlink/isa.
Step by step please. Thank you.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Burning a NeXT CD from WinNT?
References: <6mdsos$t96@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <6mdu0g$atm$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <358e08ee.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 22 Jun 98 07:34:06 GMT
Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>---snip---
>- use CDDesigner.app to create a raw image under NeXTSTEP
>- create a Macintosh CD, or a hybrid NT / Mac CD
---snip--- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think hybrid cause problems on NeXT-machines, because you get every file
twice in the Browser (or Terminal-window) and only luck will help you opening
the file. (So for me for some commercial CDs.)
greets
Sven
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From: spagiola@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pastry for OS4.2??
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:14:43 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6mlhrj$3uf$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
References: <Euu6Gn.5o1@heller.altoetting-online.de>
heller@altoetting-online.de wrote:
> Is there a version [of Pastry] for OS4.2 or are you willing
> to release the source?
More to the point: will there be a version for Rhapsody/MacOS X?
Stefano Pagiola spagiola@my-dejanews.com My opinions alone Longtime MacOS and
NeXTSTEP user, reluctant Windows 95/NT user, future Rhapsody user
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ImageMagic convert compiled for NS 3.0??
Date: 22 Jun 1998 13:18:30 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <6mllj6$c6p$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <6m68nq$roc$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
In article <6m68nq$roc$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes:
> I'm looking for an m68k binary of the convert program from ImageMagic
> for NS3.x.
> I don't have X11, so can't compile from source. Just want it for
> command-line use.
Working on it... Unfortunately, it REQUIRES X (really). The version I'm
working on uses Xnext 3.02 for OpenStep, so the resulting port will be for
OpenStep 4.x only.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK)
Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Internet Connection?
Message-ID: <1998062214013500.KAA11559@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 22 Jun 1998 14:01:35 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <3593106b.3990470@news.casema.net>
You're in luck, TjL, a frequent contributor to this group has a web page on
this very topic!
It's available at:
http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: havoc@apk.net (Chris Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTStep 3.3 SPARC Compatibility Question
Date: 22 Jun 1998 14:17:13 GMT
Organization: APK Net, Ltd.
Message-ID: <6mlp19$8f7$1@nerd.apk.net>
I was browsing through NeXTAnswers yesterday, checking to see if my
SPARCClassic was supported under NeXTStep SPARC 3.3. According to the
compatibility guide I found, 3.3 SPARC will only run on Sparc 4/5/10/20?
Is this compatibility issue tied to the processor or the architecture, as a
SPARCClassic is sun4m architecture, the same as a Sparc 10.
Appreciate the assistance. I'd love to have NeXTStep on my SPARC, but I've
always got my cube to fall back on :)
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ssh-1.2.25 and Openstep 4.x problem
Date: 22 Jun 1998 17:20:13 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <6mm3od$gfa$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <6m7f5l$t23$1@news.tamu.edu>
In article <6m7f5l$t23$1@news.tamu.edu> colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin
Allen) writes:
> I also checked the GMP.framework version and
> although it has a symlink for Libraries, there's nothing there.
I guess I was lazy. It's a framework, so you ought to be linking against
it with -framework GMP instead of the static library way of -lgmp. I
removed the static library version from the Libraries folder to save space
in the latest distribution. Do you have a need for the static library? If
so, I'll make sure to include it in a later release of the framework.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK)
Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Dan <"dan "@at recycled .dot net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 SPARC Compatibility Question
References: <6mlp19$8f7$1@nerd.apk.net>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:05:07 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:05:07 CDT
Organization: MediaOne Express -=- Central Region
Unfortunately, it's tied to the architecture. Machines not specifically
listed WILL NOT boot. Even some Sparc 5's (like the 5/170) won't -- the
TurboSPARC CPU is too different.
<sigh>
Chris Peterson wrote:
>
> I was browsing through NeXTAnswers yesterday, checking to see if my
> SPARCClassic was supported under NeXTStep SPARC 3.3. According to the
> compatibility guide I found, 3.3 SPARC will only run on Sparc 4/5/10/20?
>
> Is this compatibility issue tied to the processor or the architecture, as a
> SPARCClassic is sun4m architecture, the same as a Sparc 10.
>
> Appreciate the assistance. I'd love to have NeXTStep on my SPARC, but I've
> always got my cube to fall back on :)
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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
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Subject: Re: Burning a NeXT CD from WinNT?
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In-reply-to: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu's message of 20 Jun 1998 02:50:53 GMT
In article <6mf82d$mt9$1@agate.berkeley.edu>,
izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
In article <6mdsos$t96@r02n01.cac.psu.edu>,
gxa114@wileypost.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) writes:
>I want to burn a CD for my NeXT of downloads from Peak, I'll be
>doing this at work from NT. What do I need to do see the full
>names under NeXTSTEP? I knoe NT uses Joliet, does NeXTSTEP use
>Rockridge or something else?
Get mkisofs version 1.11 from Peak.
Better, yet, get mkhybrid from (damned if I recall). It can burn a
hybrid Joliet/RockRidge CD. Meaning that you'll get Unixy long
filenames on Unix machines, and Windowsie long filenames on Windows
machines. Pretty cool.
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Subject: OpenWrite templates?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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Date: 23 Jun 98 00:43:26 GMT
Anyone have the OpenWrite document templates? The ftpable
package doesn't include them.
- Jon
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Subject: help paintshop pro 5.0 and animation pro
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:26:08 -0400
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PLEASE
anyone know where I can find a free copy of paintshop pro 5.0 and or
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help. cwatts@awod.com
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 SPARC Compatibility Question
Date: 22 Jun 1998 20:48:24 GMT
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In article <TNyj1.521$L%.36376448@elnws01.ce.mediaone.net>,
Dan <"dan "@at recycled .dot net> wrote:
>Unfortunately, it's tied to the architecture. Machines not specifically
>listed WILL NOT boot.
...except for the SPARCstation Voyager, which will.
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From: andydunn@op.net (Andy Dunn)
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Subject: Openstep via Virtual PC
Date: 22 Jun 1998 22:13:46 GMT
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A friend of mine is running Virtual PC on a Power Mac and found instructions
included for installing alternate OSs on the Virtual PC -- among them
Openstep!
Has anyone tried this? What versions of NS / OS will work?
Thanks,
_andy
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Does anyone have any info on MusicBuilder software?
I've e-mailed them several times but haven't received any reply.
Thanks.
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From: "Peter Baral" <Peter.Baral@s-direktnet.de>
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Subject: Re: Openstep via Virtual PC
Date: 23 Jun 98 19:20:43 +0200
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>A friend of mine is running Virtual PC on a Power Mac and found
instructions
>included for installing alternate OSs on the Virtual PC -- among them
>Openstep!
>
>Has anyone tried this? What versions of NS / OS will work?
>
OS 4.2 works perfectly, but _slow_ (on a PowerMac 8600/200).
Peter Baral Medienwerkstatt Muehlacker
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From: MR <michael@coqui.net>
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Subject: Help..looking for NeXTStep 3.x
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:29:03 +0000
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Hi,
I'm looking for an Intel version of NeXTStep 3.x (preferably 3.3).
Thanks,
Michael
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What is stealing my cycles??
Date: 23 Jun 1998 20:43:58 GMT
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis
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I took one of my Next machines (color turbo, running Openstep 4.2) off the
net to work at home for a couple months, and some things have gotten
deplorably slow in a way that I can't understand. When I boot, the machine
waits quite awhile whenever a network daemon is being installed, which is
understandable, but when I start up such progrems as NEXTIME and
ProjectBuilder I have to wait a long time (like minutes) for them to come
up. Also in routine work there are a lot of slowdowns. What could be
happening? I could understand such behavior from programs that access the
net, but ProjectBuilder?
There is a possibility that a hacker gained access to the machine shortly
before I took it off the net, so I am not ruling out some sort of sniffer,
although I haven't found any suspicious program or log info pointing to
that.
Can anyone tell me how I can find out exactly what is causing the delays? Is
this normal for a machine that is set up to be networked (not as a client,
but as an independent internet node) and then is taken off the net? If so,
is there a simple way to temporarily reset the machine as a non-networked
machine?
Cheers,
Don Petcher
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What is stealing my cycles??
Date: 23 Jun 1998 17:34:36 -0700
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References: <6mp42e$2m0$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>
The program "top", at peak will tell you about your
cpu usage. (top is a normally a System V utility.
Someone was kind enough to make a NeXTSTEP version).
When you run it it will sort all processes
by cpu usage and with updates every 5-60 seconds
depending the preferences you set.
There is a network monitoring utility at this.net/~frank
which you might experiment with too.
It sounds to me like the machine is struggling with
the old network connections and that it is not a hacker thing. I'd
suggest that you backup /etc/netinfo and /etc/hosts, and copy over
fresh versions from a NeXTSTEP CD ROM. That will eliminate the
booting delays and should fix the network delays. The delay
in ProjectBuilder, would be explained if some resource
in the old environment was NFS mounted.
In article <6mp42e$2m0$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>,
Donald N. Petcher <petcher@howdy.wustl.edu> wrote:
>I took one of my Next machines (color turbo, running Openstep 4.2) off the
>net to work at home for a couple months, and some things have gotten
>deplorably slow in a way that I can't understand. When I boot, the machine
>waits quite awhile whenever a network daemon is being installed, which is
>understandable, but when I start up such progrems as NEXTIME and
>ProjectBuilder I have to wait a long time (like minutes) for them to come
>up. Also in routine work there are a lot of slowdowns. What could be
>happening? I could understand such behavior from programs that access the
>net, but ProjectBuilder?
>
>There is a possibility that a hacker gained access to the machine shortly
>before I took it off the net, so I am not ruling out some sort of sniffer,
>although I haven't found any suspicious program or log info pointing to
>that.
>
>Can anyone tell me how I can find out exactly what is causing the delays? Is
>this normal for a machine that is set up to be networked (not as a client,
>but as an independent internet node) and then is taken off the net? If so,
>is there a simple way to temporarily reset the machine as a non-networked
>machine?
>
>Cheers,
>Don Petcher
From: e-glide@interport.net
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Subject: Openstep/Win95 Dual Boot
Date: 24 Jun 1998 18:37:31 -0400
Organization: Interport Communications Corp.
Message-ID: <6mrv3b$gvu$1@interport.net>
Hi all;
I'm having trouble with a Dell Dimension XPS PII/300,
running Openstep 4.1. On an earlier system I had,
I got the System Commander 95/Openstep dual boot situation going fine.
However, on this machine, I can't get Openstep to install on the
unused area of the disk (that which isn't used by Win95.)
Although Openstep FDISK will create a Nextstep partition in the free space,
it fails the install with "couldn't initialize disk".
Anyone know the correct procedure for getting through this?
On my old Seagate disk, this wasn't an issue, but on the IBM 8.4 gig drive
on the Dell, it is.
I'd greatly appreciate any help.
Thanks,
sinistar@sinistar.com
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From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
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Subject: What applications are available on OS 4.2 for NT?
Date: 25 Jun 1998 00:05:30 GMT
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Are most NS/OS applications available with OS for NT?
In particular, I would like to be able to use Webster, TeXView,
FileMerger, and NextMail. Is the Next workspace manager still available
under NT?
Is it worth to get OS4.2 for NT?
Thanks for any enlightenment.
Feng Liu
UC Irvine
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:09:38 +0200
From: Martin Strubel <lstrubi@honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de>
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Hi there,
does anyone know how to use IP-Masquerading on a black NeXT ?
I'd like to have a little LAN hooked up to the wide world using PPP on a
NeXT with being able to access the internet from the other machines too.
Greetings,
Strubi
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From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
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Subject: Re: What is stealing my cycles??
Date: 25 Jun 1998 20:30:03 GMT
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In <6mp42e$2m0$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Donald N. Petcher wrote:
> I took one of my Next machines (color turbo, running Openstep 4.2)
off the
> net to work at home for a couple months, and some things have gotten
> deplorably slow in a way that I can't understand. When I boot, the
machine
> waits quite awhile whenever a network daemon is being installed,
which is
> understandable, but when I start up such progrems as NEXTIME and
> ProjectBuilder I have to wait a long time (like minutes) for them to
come
> up. Also in routine work there are a lot of slowdowns. What could be
> happening? I could understand such behavior from programs that access
the
> net, but ProjectBuilder?
What does nslookup do? I'm betting your getting lookupd timeouts
but that normally would hang a machine - depending
> There is a possibility that a hacker gained access to the machine
shortly
> before I took it off the net, so I am not ruling out some sort of
sniffer,
> although I haven't found any suspicious program or log info pointing
to
> that.
Chuck's suggestion is a good one for pinning down processes that
are eating cpu cycles. What about finding ones that are timing out?
I just have this wierd feeling since you moved the machine you
didn't update your dns information in it. Or other things.
> Can anyone tell me how I can find out exactly what is causing the
delays? Is
> this normal for a machine that is set up to be networked (not as a
client,
> but as an independent internet node) and then is taken off the net?
If so,
> is there a simple way to temporarily reset the machine as a
non-networked
> machine?
The other problem could be collisions - check your router if you
have lights - or use a network packet sniffer.
> Cheers,
> Don Petcher
Randy
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channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
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From: pr@grapho.net (Tal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEW bible code software
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:08:54 GMT
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From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
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In <3593B9B2.41C6@honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Martin Strubel wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> does anyone know how to use IP-Masquerading on a black NeXT ?
> I'd like to have a little LAN hooked up to the wide world using PPP on a
> NeXT with being able to access the internet from the other machines too.
Unfortunately there is no kernel support for this, and no workaround that
I've been able to find anywhere.
TjL
ps -- NetBSD is being ported to NeXT hardware, so eventually it may be
possible to use the hardware for this, but not the OS.... and since there's
only one Ethernet port, the local LAN would have to be on Ethernet and the
'net connection PPP or vice versa.
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Emacs viper-mode
Date: 27 Jun 1998 11:36:11 GMT
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I installed version 19.34.1 of Emacs for NEXTSTEP the other day.
viper-mode was working just fine. Today when I do
M-x viper-mode RET
I get:
Symbol's function definition is void: x-color-defined-p
and viper-mode does not load.
Any idea what I have done to warrant this warning? When I do
emacs --no-init
from the terminal shell viper-mode works fine. The problem
seems to exist only when emacs is fired as the Emacs app.
Any ideas what the above error is indicating?
c-h f x-color-defined-p draws a blank.
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From: Steve Stevenson <sstevenson@championsoftware.com>
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.other.software,alt.forsale,comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.sys.next.software,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.software
Subject: Vehicle Maintenance Tracking and Scheduling Program
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:43:45 +0100
Organization: Plutonium, Inc.
Message-ID: <35950521.D110A22A@championsoftware.com>
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Auto-Do-It Version 2.0
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Program. Increases Value of your vehicle trade in and reduces Wear and
Tear charges on leases. Flexible and easy to use interface allows fully
customizable service list and scheduling utility. Print easy to read
detailed reports for record keeping. Upcoming services are easily
distinguished with the color coded Schedule Monitor. Many user
customizable fields and options. Just remember "Keeping Track Pays
Back!"
http://www.championsoftware.com/adi/default.htm
From: "Ryan Woodsmall" <woody@cdsinet.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIMP and OpenUp?
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:56:15 -0500
Organization: The World's Usenet -- http://www.Supernews.com
Message-ID: <6n3m2v$cgk$1@supernews.com>
References: <6mbttf$etg$1@news.missouri.edu>
The Gimp is an X-Window program. You cannot run it unless you
have a working X-Server under NeXTstep/Openstep.
Does anyone know of a good FREE X-Window server for NeXTstep
for Intel? I don't really want to spend a couple hundred dollars for
Cub'X. Any information would be appreciated.
Ryan Woodsmall
woody@cdsinet.net
From: "Jim Vancheri" <Jim.Vancheri@mci.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
References: <6n6120$k2k$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Install on Toshiba Tecra 550CDT - Can't find cdrom
Message-ID: <FeSl1.693$Ki5.647325@pm01nn>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:51:01 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:51:01 GMT
Organization: MCI2000
Ravi:
Do you have the CD drive in the external case or is it inserted into the
laptop? I found that to do a Next install on my Tecra that the CD drive has
to be in the laptop, not the external drive case. If it was in the external
case the system would not find it.
Jim
ravishankarr@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<6n6120$k2k$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Hello all:
>
>I have been trying to install NS 3.3 for Intel on a Toshia Tecra 550CDT
>(266MHz Pentium) with 96MB Memory and 4GB EIDE HDD, 20x EIDE CDROM. I have
>partitioned the HDD into four:
>
> Partition 1: WinNT (2047 MB) - Formatted NTFS
> Partition 2: NS (799 MB) - Unformatted
> Partition 3: Solaris (1242 MB) - Unformatted
> Partition 4: IBM Boot Manager (4 MB) + Unused space
(~4MB)
>
>I start NS installation the following way:
>
>1. Load Adaptec 154x Series SCSI Adapter (v3.31)
>2. Load IDE Disk Controller (v3.30)
>3. Continue without loading additional drivers
>
>At this point the NS boot monitor comes up (NeXT Mach Operating System).
The
>following message is seen: 96.12MB physical memory, ISA/EISA bus support
>enabled, PCI Ver=2.10 BusCount=22 Features=[BIOS16 CM1], etc.
>
>Then, for the IDE, I get the following message:
>
>IDE: using block major 3, character major 15
>IDE: cylinders 993, heads 128, spt 63 (BIOS geometry)
>IDE drive 0 using multisector mode.
>Registering: hd0
>Registering: hd0a
>hd0: No Valid Disk Label
>hd0: Device Block Size 512 bytes
>hd0: Device Capacity: 3909 MB
>Registering: event0
>Registering: kmDevice0
>No SCSI controller or CD-ROM drive found
>use sd%d, hd%d, fd%d, en%d or tr%d
>root device?
>
>Why cannot the system find the ATAPI IDE CDROM? The installation hangs at
>this point. I have seen similart problems long ago when the NS3.3 came out
>and looked into the archives for the answers. Unfortunately, I cannot find
>any that relates to my problem. I would appreciate if someone could throw
>some light into this problem. I would very much like to install NS 3.3 on
my
>laptop.
>
>If this thing goes through successfully, can I install the NS Video Drive
for
>S3 Virge on the laptop. The graphics chipset in the laptop is a S3 Virge/MX
>and I was wondering if the S3 Virge drive found in NeXTAnswers would help
me?
>
>Thanks in advance, and hoping to get a positive answer...
>
>Ravi
>
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From: rraman@osf1.gmu.edu (RAVISHANKAR RAMANATHAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Install on Toshiba Tecra 550CDT - Can't find cdrom
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 1 Jul 1998 04:15:48 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <6ncd5k$s4e@portal.gmu.edu>
References: <6n6120$k2k$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6n816o$h3e12@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> <6n9ecb$bb5@portal.gmu.edu> <6na4od$esq2@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> <6napsl$9np@portal.gmu.edu>
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Just to followup on my efforts. Now my Toshiba Tecra 550CDT is running NS3.3 beautifully at 1024x768 16-bit resolution. This is the first time I am seeing NS in color and it is pretty cool (I had a NeXT Turbo mono - what a jump in terms of performance!!) Now to get the real things like DHCP, database access and maybe life would be fun after all!!
Thanks very much for all your help.
Ravi
RAVISHANKAR RAMANATHAN (rraman@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote:
: Thanks every one. I finally installed NS3.3 using the Dual IDE. I had problems writing the driverimage using rawrite under NT. Once I booted from a Win95 floppy and tried to copy the imageto a floppy everything goes fine. Now I have to try and setup the S3 to get the full window instead of a 640x480 in the center of the LCD!! Thanks once again.
: H.-R. Oberhage (phy070@spo109) wrote:
: : RAVISHANKAR RAMANATHAN (rraman@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote:
: : : Thanks!! Now I would like to followup on that question and ask: where can I find the 'Dual IDE driver'? I found the Beta EIDE driver on NeXTanswers but the rawrite program when run says it cannot find the driver image and quits. I am using the CDROM in the internal bay. The external bay in the 550CDT holds the floppy. Thanks once again.
: : Two ways come to my mind, but the first one assumes a running NS 3.3
: : somewhere to 'make' the floppy: that way you would have to install
: : (via Installer.app) the driver and then copy it to the exact location
: : in the path (/private/Drivers/i386/EIDE.config ???) on the diskette.
: : Then you have to find a boot-diskette that allows you to insert a
: : diskette for 'additional drivers' and the use the 'new' diskette.
: : Easier and feasible if you don't have NS running, but more to load
: : down is to get the raw images of NS 3.3. boot, drivers, optional drivers
: : and beta drivers disk (each about 1.4 MB). These are real 'images' of
: : disks that can be written by rawrite (other drivers can not be handled
: : this way, rawrite just 'operates' on disk(ette) images!).
: : You might be able to skip one of the disks (optional or beta drivers),
: : but I don't remember which one holds the 'Dual IDE' driver, so you'll
: : have to find that out first. If internet-bandwith/costs isn't a problem,
: : download all four disk(ette)-images.
: : Finally - guess what :-) - boot from them and insert what you need until
: : you're running.
: : Don't install the S3 display driver from the beginning as you will be asked
: : for it, each time you upgrade or so. Install with standard VGA (as is
: : default) and install the S3 driver only after the system is basically
: : up and running.
: : Greetings,
: : Ruediger Oberhage
: : --
: : H.-R. Oberhage
: : Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
: : Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
: : S05 V07 E88
: : Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
: : D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: What Happened to Sarrus Software, PencilMeIn?
Date: 1 Jul 1998 19:39:02 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <6ne38m$1tm@shelob.afs.com>
References: <95wm1.320$wJ4.4689140@news-read1.qis.net>
The Rev. James David Meacham--Minister, Webmaster, Philosopher--writes:
> I'd really like to get a hold of a copy of PencilMeIn by Sarrus
> Software, but their phones have been disconeected and their website is
> no longer. Does nayone know what happened to them and if they still
> sell academic version of PencilMeIn. Thanks!
Andy rewrote PMI in Java and eventually sold out to SunSoft. So I'd say
the odds are about the same as buying an old Lighthouse app. 8^)
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "We're in the land of the blind,
Visionary Ophthalmologist | selling working eyeballs, and they
Anderson Financial Systems | balk at the choice of color." -- Tony
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | Lovell, on Mac user reactions to NeXT
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can TrueType Fonts be Ported?
Date: 2 Jul 1998 08:54:39 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / CC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6nfhsf$iot$1@newshost>
References: <6ndoqi$sn7$2@news.seicom.net>
In article <6ndoqi$sn7$2@news.seicom.net> frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de
(Frank M. Siegert) writes:
> In <6ndn8b$mv5$1@news.xmission.com> Don Yacktman wrote:
> > There's also the comand line tool /usr/bin/ttf2font which comes
> > preinstalled on the latest (Rhapsody/OPENSTEP) releases...it seems
> > to do the trick. I've successfully converted a few fonts this way,
> > at any rate.
>
> ttf2font produces Type42 fonts and FC does a 'real' TTF to PS (Type 1 and
> Type 3) conversion. Anyway you can try both methods as both tools are free
> (or included) anyway ;-)
One should keep in mind that Type42 fonts (as generated by ttf2font)
require a rather new version of Adobes PS-Interpreter to display
(2013 or higher). They won't display e.g. on NEXTSTEP 3.x or
quite a lot of PostScript printers. For instance, even the new QMS
magicolor2 PS printer has a 2011 PS engine and thus can't print them.
As a consequence, Frank's FontConvert is the more general
solution, since it works for any PS interpreter.
Thanks to Frank from me too !
Detlev
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Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany | Fax:+49 261 9119-497
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Drop the "Drop_This." part in my Email-address to reply.
From: Jeff <jeffwatt@gte.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can I install 4.2 on a turbo slab?
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 01:52:53 -0700
Organization: AT&T Wireless Services InterNetNews Site
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I have a turbo slab w/64mb I have 3.3 now I would like to put 4.2 on it
so I can run the same OS at home as the office. My 3.3 media says for
NeXT and Intel. However, my 4.2 just says Mach. Will this work? If it
does then I need to know more since I tried to use the upgrader app and
it bombed out during the upgrade plan. Just exited out cleanly on its
own.
Do I need to get different media for my slab, or do I need to do a
clean install? I have tried looking through NeXT answers but I can not
find anything on 4.2 for NeXT computers or 68k processor.
curious
thanks
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From: root@127.0.0.1 (Charlie Root)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What happened to Gehle Software, CDDesigner?
Message-ID: <slrn6pmjih.ag.root@montague.flrtn1.occa.home.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 09:11:56 GMT
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I have been trying for about a month to get in contact with
Gehle Software to purchase a license for CDDesigner. Does
anybody know if they are still in business?
If not, would anybody be interested in selling their license
to CDDesigner?
--
charlie root
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Always crash on shutdown!
Date: 2 Jul 1998 10:28:05 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6nfnbl$a9c$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Hello,
I am running NS3.3 on intel hardware (Pentium). Since I installed it on the
machine, it crashes every time I use the "Power Down" or "Restart" buttons on
the login screen! When I push that button, it blanks the screen and all
activity ceases. I can only push the hardware reset button or the main power
switch. Of course, the disks are dirty afterwards and it takes for ever to
boot again.
Because of this I disabled the buttons (root's Preferences.app) and use
Command-NumLock now to get into the monitor, and use "halt" or "restart" from
there. This works without problems and the disks are clean afterwards. but it
is not very satisfying....
Did anyone else encounter such a problem? Any ideas? Which code is being
executed once I push the login-screen shutdown buttons?
Any help appreciated!
Bye,
Helmut
--
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FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7
Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------
Dr. Helmut Heller
Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ)
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help me install ns 3.3 user on ide..
Date: 30 Jun 1998 17:03:01 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6nb5o5$etm10@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980630130059.28940A-100000@galileo.cris.com>
TEMPO97 (Tempo97@cris.com) wrote:
: I have the cd-rom of nextstep 3.3 user, along with the intel boot and
: driver disk, and there's no hint of an ide driver on the drivers disk as
: possibly hinted on nextanswers. So, where can I find a drivers disk
: with an IDE/ATAPI cd-rom driver on it for installation?. My computer
: unfortunately has no SCSI :(
Look for boot- and driver-disk-images for NS 3.3 in NeXTanswers. The
boot-, driver-, optional-driver- and beta-driver-set surely includes
what you're looking for; most probably 'boot' and 'driver' will
suffice.
Greetings,
Ruediger
--
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Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP: NS 3.3 INTEL INSTALATION [LONG]
Date: 30 Jun 1998 17:00:40 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6nb5jo$etm9@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6nb4n1$8jq$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Boot from the CD into single-user mode ("-s"), mount the
hd with a mount command to some path (using the switch which
sees to it that nothing is written into /etc/mtab (-n ?), as
- you guessed it - its hard to write to /etc - and use the
editor 'pico' (vi can't write to /tmp for a similar reason)
or an 'echo ... >/etc/fstab' construct to change 'fstab' to
the correct value (hd1a), then reboot.
Greetings,
Ruediger Oberhage
--
H.-R. Oberhage
Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP: NS 3.3 INTEL INSTALATION [LONG]
Date: 30 Jun 1998 17:41:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <6nb7vd$e16$1@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <6nb4n1$8jq$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
If I understand correctly, you are trying to install NeXTSTEP on the 2nd
EIDE drive, right? First of all, that is not an officially supported
configuration for NeXTSTEP. You won't be able to boot the machine into
NeXTSTEP without tweaking the configuration. Your only choice (as far as I
know) is here.
Put a small (>7MB) NeXTSTEP parition within the first 2GB on the 1st EIDE
drive for booting up. Follow instructions in NeXTanswer "Booting from
Alternative Hard Drive"
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1487.htmld/1487.html
for copying and configuring files required on that parition.
Good luck!
--
Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
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Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 08:44:19 +0000
From: Royce Priem <priem@his.com>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can TrueType Fonts be Ported?
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Hello everyone -
Is it possible to convert truetype fonts to NeXT? I went through all of
the font conversion utilities on the ftp sites, but they all seem to
deal with Type 1 and Type 2, but no mention of truetype. Thanks in
advance...
Regards,
Royce
From: "Kelvin Khong" <wendyk@pl.jaring.my>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: yellowbox runtime
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:56:49 +0800
Organization: Unconfigured
Message-ID: <6ndijk$178@news2.jaring.my>
i'm not a registered apple developer, but i'd like to obtain the yellow box
runtime environment for windows 95 so i can run some yellow box
applications. anyone knows where i can find it ?? thanks !
From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can TrueType Fonts be Ported?
Date: 1 Jul 1998 16:14:03 GMT
Organization: MiscKit Development
Message-ID: <6ndn8b$mv5$1@news.xmission.com>
References: <3599F6E2.48B@his.com> <6ndcb1$c8a$1@news.seicom.net>
frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert) wrote:
> In <3599F6E2.48B@his.com> Royce Priem wrote:
> > Is it possible to convert truetype fonts to NeXT? I went through all of
> > the font conversion utilities on the ftp sites, but they all seem to
> > deal with Type 1 and Type 2, but no mention of truetype. Thanks in
> > advance...
>
> Yep, use FontConvert v1.52 as avilable for free on
> http://www.this.net/~frank/, look in the download area.
There's also the comand line tool /usr/bin/ttf2font which comes preinstalled
on the latest (Rhapsody/OPENSTEP) releases...it seems to do the trick. I've
successfully converted a few fonts this way, at any rate.
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com
<a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: tempest@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can TrueType Fonts be Ported?
Date: 1 Jul 1998 20:15:01 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Message-ID: <6ne5c5$ca2$1@ocean.cup.hp.com>
References: <6ndoqi$sn7$2@news.seicom.net> <1998070117272500.NAA22403@ladder03.news.aol.com>
In article <1998070117272500.NAA22403@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
WillAdams <willadams@aol.com> wrote:
>Frank said:
>>ttf2font produces Type42 fonts and FC does a 'real' TTF to PS (Type 1 and
>>Type 3) conversion.
>
> I've
>access to most of the tools for this conversion (and the other way) on Mac and
>PC and FontConvert beats them hands-down.
>
>FontConvert is an absolutely wonderful program, which I find essential.
Will FontConvert convert 16-bit fonts?
Ken
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for Yves Arrouye
Date: 3 Jul 1998 02:36:22 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6ni8mm$ga@slip.net>
Hi,
I'd like to aquire a license to TopDesk.
The e-mail address of the author Yves.Arrouye@imag.fr
is no longer valid.
Does anyone know how I could aquire the license?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: noljd@rhodes.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Openstep Install Help
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 13:50:54 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6ng37u$jbt$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
I've run into a snag installing Openstep 4.2 and I could use some help.
In the process of booting from the floppies for the first time, the system
goes into kernel panic immediately after "resetting the scsi bus (sd0)". It
gives the error message "unexpected trap at (somememoryaddress)" and asks to
continue or reboot. Continuing only sends it into full panic mode where I'm
forced to reboot.
Now, what I need to know is whether the problem is in my scsi card or in the
drives, or in the configuration of the two. I'm suspicious of the scsi card,
because its an old Adaptec AHA 1540 (note: this is different from the 1540B).
I'm loading the Adaptec 1542B drivers off the boot floppies, which should,
theoretically, work. The boot process does seem to find the card at the
correct memory address. However, since the drivers are not exactly correct,
that could be one problem.
I have two Maxtor 1240S 1gb drives on the bus, which should be completely
blank. As far as I can tell, they are terminated and identified (scsi ID 0 &
1) correctly. I also have a TEAC CD516S cdrom on the bus (ID 3).
I need to know where to look next. I appreciate whatever input you can give
me.
Thanks,
Jonathan D. Nolen
nolen@elvis.rhodes.edu
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From: jmeacham@rosetta-stone.com
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Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 19:16:46 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:16:46 EDT
On 07/02/98, Charlie Root wrote:
>
>I have been trying for about a month to get in contact with
>Gehle Software to purchase a license for CDDesigner. Does
>anybody know if they are still in business?
>
>If not, would anybody be interested in selling their license
>to CDDesigner?
I hate to post a "me too", but hey, this is the only decent solution
for writing CDs, both Audio and Data, on the NeXT. So if anyone has a
personal license they want to sell, or trade some of my store if next
stuff for, please let me know. Peace,
James
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What happened to Gehle Software, CDDesigner?
Date: 3 Jul 1998 23:00:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
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In article <y6an1.538$wJ4.6320589@news-read1.qis.net> writes:
>I hate to post a "me too", but hey, this is the only decent solution
>for writing CDs, both Audio and Data, on the NeXT. So if anyone has a
>personal license they want to sell, or trade some of my store if next
>stuff for, please let me know. Peace,
Though you have to create image files elsewhere (e.g. for data using
mkisofs), AerePerennius.app on Peanuts archive is a very nice
fully-GUI solution for burning CDs on NS/OS. And it's free.
Try it out if you can't get a license for CDDesigner.
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From: david614@boo.net
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Subject: PPP 2.2 and Gatekeeper 2.1
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 19:44:32 GMT
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Hi There:
I just spent part of the July 4 day looking for tips on configuring ppp 2.2
for black next hardware. I have gatekeeper 2.1 and have successfully dialed
my isp. I get as far as the login message. I type in my username and
password, and then see a launching ppp message from my isp. The usual
garbage appears on my screen, and then after a little while the connection
hangs up.
I have configured ppp as best as I can, and created the files using the manual
included in the distribution. I also tried to follow the somewhat cryptic
instructions in gatekeeper, but do not have much confidence that the settings
are correct.
If there is anyone out there who could offer some hand holding regarding the
setup of a ppp setting for a nextstation color turbo with a 400 mb hd, and 16
mb of ram I would be very appreciative.
I have a logicode 288 modem that dials out ok using the demo version of
communicae that I downloaded using my NT box.
This is a plea for help, so any suggestions/pointers would be most welcome
David Mussington
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Subject: File associations
Date: 4 Jul 1998 15:36:53 -0700
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Hi,
It is possible to configure workspace manager
so that when I click on a file with a .bb suffix
from workspace manager the command
"/usr/local/bin/bbplayer -c" executes on that file?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
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Date: 5 Jul 1998 03:48:51 GMT
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Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: rich811@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Software Thats Free! Saves as Much as 95%
Organization: Warren Communications
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Date: 5 Jul 1998 00:11:29 -0600
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by as much as 95%
Net2phone is the free software that gives all other
countries the ability to call the U.S.A for as
little as 10 cents a minute!
For more information and your free software go to
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From: henry@yusei.boeblingen.de.ibm.com (Henry Koplien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Always crash on shutdown!
Date: 5 Jul 1998 06:24:47 GMT
Organization: IBM Zurich Research Laboratory
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References: <6nfnbl$a9c$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
In article <6nfnbl$a9c$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> heller@lrz.de
(Helmut Heller) writes:
> Hello,
>
> I am running NS3.3 on intel hardware (Pentium). Since I installed it on
the
> machine, it crashes every time I use the "Power Down" or "Restart"
buttons on
> the login screen! When I push that button, it blanks the screen and all
> activity ceases. I can only push the hardware reset button or the main
power
> switch. Of course, the disks are dirty afterwards and it takes for ever
to
> boot again.
..
Looks like problems on the Motherboard. NeXT-Step is very picky with
the hardware. I am running NeXT-Step on several Laptops and they all
behave different.
(So put Your hands on a different Motherboard if possible an give it try)
Henry
From: Gary Thompson <gary.thompson@dial.pipex.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can I install 4.2 on a turbo slab?
Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 09:15:30 +0000
Organization: UUNET UK server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNET UK)
Message-ID: <359F4431.43A133CB@dial.pipex.com>
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Jeff wrote:
> I have a turbo slab w/64mb I have 3.3 now I would like to put 4.2 on it
> so I can run the same OS at home as the office. My 3.3 media says for
> NeXT and Intel. However, my 4.2 just says Mach. Will this work? If it
> does then I need to know more since I tried to use the upgrader app and
> it bombed out during the upgrade plan. Just exited out cleanly on its
> own.
>
> Do I need to get different media for my slab, or do I need to do a
> clean install? I have tried looking through NeXT answers but I can not
> find anything on 4.2 for NeXT computers or 68k processor.
>
> curious
>
> thanks
I currently have a turbo colour slab running 4.2 with no probs, I must
say I did do a clean install from scratch, and then put back my old apps
that I wanted
G.
From: Joost Backus <joostb@plex.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Component Info
Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 14:54:26 +0200
Organization: Plex -- a public access Internet provider
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Hi
I am preparing a little retrospective on components. Could you provide
me maybe with some hostorical background info on component based
software development ?
Was next the first to use components i.e palettes ?
What are the differences between Objective C and Java ?
The SUN Java tools have a distinct Interface Builder feel to them ? Have
they taken over ideas from the Openstep stuff ?
What is Avie Tavanian doing at the moment ?
Dit Borland get their first Delphi component ideas from Next ?
I value your resonse greatly.
Joost
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From: ginz1@juno.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP 2.2 and Gatekeeper 2.1
Date: 5 Jul 1998 12:50:59 GMT
Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server
Message-ID: <6nnsrj$1il$1@eve.enteract.com>
References: <6nm0n0$hgv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Well from my experience
you must run pppd after the garbage appears. As far as the hanging up thing did you create a "resolv.conf" file? That was a big problem for me.
Hope this helps a little.
Carl...
In PPP 2.2 and Gatekeeper 2.1 comp.sys.next.software david614@boo.net writes,
> Hi There:
>
> I just spent part of the July 4 day looking for tips on configuring ppp 2.2
> for black next hardware. I have gatekeeper 2.1 and have successfully dialed
> my isp. I get as far as the login message. I type in my username and
> password, and then see a launching ppp message from my isp. The usual
> garbage appears on my screen, and then after a little while the connection
> hangs up.
>
> I have configured ppp as best as I can, and created the files using the manual
> included in the distribution. I also tried to follow the somewhat cryptic
> instructions in gatekeeper, but do not have much confidence that the settings
> are correct.
>
> If there is anyone out there who could offer some hand holding regarding the
> setup of a ppp setting for a nextstation color turbo with a 400 mb hd, and 16
> mb of ram I would be very appreciative.
>
> I have a logicode 288 modem that dials out ok using the demo version of
> communicae that I downloaded using my NT box.
>
> This is a plea for help, so any suggestions/pointers would be most welcome
>
> David Mussington
>
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From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: gonext.com
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 17:46:04 +0100
Organization: KVI
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Hi all,
On my openstep machine i found in a directopy /.../Dos a file named
gonext.com. My guess is that this is the NeXT equivalent of loadlin. Is
this correct, and if so, how do i use it? just typing gonext from the
dos-prompt didn't work.
Thanks,
Marcel
From: antoine_RemoveThisFromAdress_@arrakis.RemoveThisFromAdress.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TeXlive3 ?
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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 22:19:58 GMT
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Hello,
Has anyone started using the TeXlive3 TeX distribution ? any problems
compiling ? Is TeXview.app ok ?
Thanks,
---- Antoine Gautier (NS3.3-i386)
| Faculte des Sciences de l'Administration
| Universite Laval
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Always crash on shutdown!
Message-ID: <1p5qXFeuk6hn@cc.usu.edu>
From: root@127.0.0.1
Date: 6 Jul 98 16:51:47 MDT
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In <6nn67f$19f6$1@grimsel.zurich.ibm.com> Henry Koplien wrote:
> I am running NeXT-Step on several Laptops and they all
> behave different.
As an aside, could you tell us which laptops you run on, and
which you prefer?
I'm thinking of getting a laptop to run OS4.2, and any little
bit helps.
Thanks.
From: naatona@proaxis.com (MR. FATTUS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Turbo Color Publishing System FS-Price Slashed!!!
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 16:34:06 +0100
Organization: AQUASPHERA
Message-ID: <naatona-0707981634060001@pr05-21.proaxis.net>
Complete Next Turbo Color Publishing System For Sale!!
Price slashed!!!!!!! $700.00 plus shipping!!!!!
We must sell our beloved black ³baby² to raise funds for a new G3 system.
This is a very special mint condition NeXT Turbo Color Slab system with
all of the works. This machine is configured for high end publishing and
print work and is still very functional and cool. We would like to find a
new and caring home for this unique system. We prefer to sell this as a
complete system. Can ship to anywhere in the US. Asking Price
Below.............Check out the features................
HARDWARE:
Turbo Color Slab, one of the last off off the production line.
32 MB Ram, ABD mouse (the puck) and latest keyboard, Sound Box.
Sony 17² Monitor which is in great condition and still bright and sharp
NeXT 400 dpi printer with long cable, very low page count-needs new toner
cartridge.
Drives: Internal: Segate 250 megs for files
External: Large Andataco drive box with 1.5 meg. Micropolis SCSI, room to
add many drives, heavy duty fan. All SCSI cables. Ready to add Zip
disk...........
Zyzel 14.4 Modem with Null modem cable
SOFTWARE: NS 3.2 installed on Micropolis drive. Very Stable release.
Last release of Virtuoso (Next Freehand 5.0) which is still as good as any
design package out. Very stable and is set up with drivers for most
image setters and printers. Very reliable Postscript output. With disks
and manuals. Works seamlessly with Mac versions of Freehand and
Illustrator.
Appsoft Image 1.1x , a rare release of this Photoshop-like imaging app
which came from the developers themselves. Works well, have manuals too.
Great for Web graphics.........still does things no other imaging apps
can¹t.
Address Blaster: Rare but cool address/contact manager with many killer
features
Special release from developer himself.
Wet Paint...........good paint app, with disks.
Paste-Up 1.5..............basic page layout
Illustrator for NS..........works fine...........good for opening Mac files
Pixel Magian..........for all file conversions....rare registered copy.
Lots of Misc. graphics apps and utilities.
WordPerfect.........powerful WP, works well with Mac versions.
Appsoft Draw: Postscript Draw Program
Data Phile: Flat file database
Lots of cool apps loaded on system.
Trial versions of Tiffanyy II and Compose in Color too:
NX FAX, last version, rock solid FTP and faxing, fax from any app, NX fax
never crashes and can send 14.4 fast faxes: fast and works great.
EXTRA SCAN, scanner support for Epson ES600-800 series scanners (which can
be bought cheap!) This software was 400.00 new and is no longer
available. This is the coolest scanner software for NS. Rock solid way
to scan into your next. (My Es-800 Scanner now hooked up to Macs)
MetroTools 2.0, manager and launcher for NS. Nice utility/extension.
FONTS: This is where this system rocks...........it has been tweeked to
have over 350 fonts available through applications. Most fonts are Adobe
converted from Mac versions via Fontographer. Many third party fonts are
also resident including the best from The Fatted Calf CD ROM. For
design work you will love the font collection. You can add more fonts
too.....there seems to be no font limit. You can take any Mac font and
use Fontographer to create a Next version.....it works!
CD-ROMS: NS 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2..............Fatted Calf CD-ROM with apps,
images, and fonts. Other demo CD¹s too.
Will include some rare Next magazines........
This system is plug and play from my workstaion to yours........black is cool.
this is a well set up system, the best of NeXT..........
$1200.00 or best offer, we had $12,000 invested in hardware/software
Contact me via E-mail or call: Serious NeXT lovers.
Paul Natona Design
natona@proaxis.com
541-752-9661
Corvallis, Oregon
From: naatona@proaxis.com (MR. FATTUS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Rare NeXT Software For Sale!!
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 17:02:17 +0100
Organization: AQUASPHERA
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Rare NeXT Software For Sale:
I have the following software for sale: All include original disks,
license, and manuals or documentation if available. Contact me for more
info. Most disks are FAT for Black or Intel.
Last release of Virtuoso (2.0) (Next Freehand 5.0) which is still as good
as any design package out. Very stable and is set up with drivers for
most image setters and printers. Very reliable Postscript output. With
disks and manuals. Works seamlessly with Mac versions of Freehand and
Illustrator. Disks and Manuals $175.00 OBO
Appsoft Image 1.1x , a rare release of this Photoshop-like imaging app
which came from the developers themselves. Works well, have manuals too.
Great for Web graphics.........still does things no other imaging apps
can¹t. Disks and Manuals-$50.00
NX FAX, version 1.3 and 1.4, , rock solid FTP and faxing, fax from any
app, NX fax never crashes and can send 14.4 fast faxes: fast and works
great. For Zyzel modems.
$30.00 for each disk and license string
Wet Paint...........V 1.2 good paint app, with disks and License, $40.00
Stone Data Phile: Flat file database, V. 1.04, may not have license,
install discs, $10.00.
Rare EXTRA SCAN, scanner support for Epson ES600-800 series scanners
(which can be bought cheap!) This software was 400.00 new and is no
longer available. This is the coolest scanner software for NS. Rock
solid way to scan into your next.
$100.00 firm, discs and license, manuals.
MetroTools 2.0, manager and launcher for NS. Nice utility/extension.
$30.00 OBO
CD-ROMS: NS Install Disks 3.0, 3.1 ......for black............$20.00 each
NeXT Third Party CD-Rom, 1993, for NS 3.1. $5.00 OBO
GS Corp Slutions Suite CD-Roms, Volume 1,No. 1, I have two sets, $10.00 each.
GS Corp Slutions Suite CD-Roms, Volume 2, No. 2, I have two sets, $10.00 each.
Lighthaouse Design CD-Rom, With Concurrence, Daigram,Taskmaster, and wet
Paint demo¹s, $10.00. 1 only.
Contact me via E-mail or call:
Paul Natona Design
natona@proaxis.com
541-752-9661
Corvallis, Oregon
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Always crash on shutdown!
Date: 6 Jul 1998 17:27:54 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <6nr1eq$a9s$1@news.spacelab.net>
References: <6nfnbl$a9c$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> <6nn67f$19f6$1@grimsel.zurich.ibm.com> <6no7o9$o8l$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) wrote:
>Henry Koplien (henry@yusei.boeblingen.de.ibm.com) wrote:
[ ... ]
>Not necesarily. Most of the NeXTSTEP 3.3 systems that I use on Intel and
>NeXT hardware exhibit this problem now. It doesn't occur after reloading
>the OS on the same hardware, though. It does occur more readily on systems
>that are more frequently used.
>
>Basically, it is not clear what process won't die to prevent the machine
>from shutting down, and I've never had the time to investigate it much.
Some kernel resource (probably a file descriptor) is still open and is
preventing the system from cleanly unmounting the drive. This seems to occur
whenever you deal with POSIX apps, or when you have active fileservice going
on (ie, NFS or Samba).
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: C/C++ compiler for old NeXTStation
Date: 6 Jul 1998 21:55:34 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <6nrh4m$bcg$2@news.spacelab.net>
References: <6noa6c$76v$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6nqklb$j3s$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> <6nr6ld$fjr$1@news.inc.net>
"Andrew Spencer" <andrew@e-net.com> wrote:
>This is the NeXTSTEP User disc you are talking about? Or do you need the
>whole NeXTSTEP Developer Disc?
You'd need NEXTSTEP/Developer.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP for Windows????
Message-ID: <1998070701551900.VAA03644@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 7 Jul 1998 01:55:19 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6nrf6a$1f9u$1@news.missouri.edu>
This means the app would run on Openstep/Enterprise for Windows, which
apparently now costs $1,400 for the commercial version ::sigh::
An interesting thought is "what if NeXT could have made OS apps run on Windows
without requiring a license for OS/E/Win".
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeXlive3 ?
Message-ID: <1998070701560200.VAA02485@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 7 Jul 1998 01:56:02 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <i4co1.1223$KM3.10824653@carnaval.risq.qc.ca>
No.
Where is it?
Is the download broken into reasonable sized chunks?
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gonext.com
Date: 7 Jul 1998 01:27:00 GMT
Organization: computerActive Inc.
Message-ID: <6nrth4$349$2@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
References: <35A10D5C.728725F6@KVI.NL>
Marcel Volkerts (VOLKERTS@KVI.NL) wrote:
: On my openstep machine i found in a directopy /.../Dos a file named
: gonext.com. My guess is that this is the NeXT equivalent of loadlin. Is
: this correct, and if so, how do i use it? just typing gonext from the
: dos-prompt didn't work.
The purpose of gonext was to do two things:
- set the active boot partition to be the NeXTSTEP partition
- reboot the computer
What did it do when you typed 'gonext'?
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
csaldanh@computerActive.com (NeXT/MIME)| Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: C/C++ compiler for old NeXTStation
Date: 7 Jul 1998 01:25:18 GMT
Organization: computerActive Inc.
Message-ID: <6nrtdu$349$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
References: <6noa6c$76v$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6nqklb$j3s$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> <6nr6ld$fjr$1@news.inc.net> <6nrh4m$bcg$2@news.spacelab.net>
Charles W. Swiger (chuck@codefab.com) wrote:
: "Andrew Spencer" <andrew@e-net.com> wrote:
: >This is the NeXTSTEP User disc you are talking about? Or do you need the
: >whole NeXTSTEP Developer Disc?
Right, but the original poster was talking about NeXTstep 2.0, which
included the developer tools on the same CD. They may have called this an
"extended release", as I recall, but it's been a long time. Certainly
NeXTSTEP 3.0 included the developer tools on the one CD. The un-bundling
occured at release 3.1.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
csaldanh@computerActive.com (NeXT/MIME)| Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
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Subject: Openstep Enterprise Development tools?
Date: 7 Jul 1998 02:21:07 GMT
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I am looking for more information regarding Openstep Enterprise and the
development tools.
I know it comes with the NeXT cc compiler. What kind of unix tools comes
with the package. Is there a shell that can be used? (sh....bash). This
may sound like a stupid question but can I perform command line compiles (for
example) c: \:> cc foo.c (like using "make" and a "Makefile" )or does all
the projects have to be made using Project Builder. Any additional
information would be appreciated.
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Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 07:32:34 +0100
From: Gabriel Sebestyen <sebestyen_g@accentcomm.com>
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Hi,
I'm seeking mpeg3 audio player for NeXT (Intel).
Where can I find? I heard there's an existing one but I couldn't able to
find.
Please help me I don't want to use NT to listen to my favourite songs.
Thanks in advance!
Gabriel Sebestyen
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From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty)
Subject: Re: C/C++ compiler for old NeXTStation
Message-ID: <cdoutyEvpMp4.Lu@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom
References: <6noa6c$76v$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6nr6ld$fjr$1@news.inc.net> <6nrh4m$bcg$2@news.spacelab.net> <6nrtdu$349$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
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In article <6nrtdu$349$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>,
Chris Saldanha <csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca> wrote:
>Charles W. Swiger (chuck@codefab.com) wrote:
>: "Andrew Spencer" <andrew@e-net.com> wrote:
>: >This is the NeXTSTEP User disc you are talking about? Or do you need the
>: >whole NeXTSTEP Developer Disc?
>
>Right, but the original poster was talking about NeXTstep 2.0, which
>included the developer tools on the same CD. They may have called this an
>"extended release", as I recall, but it's been a long time. Certainly
>NeXTSTEP 3.0 included the developer tools on the one CD. The un-bundling
>occured at release 3.1.
Actually, the distribution of 2.[012] was in the form of ODs or
floppies. In any case, 2.x had no distinction of User vs. Developer
packages, but it did have Basic vs. Extended installations. All the
tools were provided on the OD, but those with limited diskspace could
forego Shakespeare and documentation. I think that the compiler was
always included. I wish that I still had my 2.1 OD (and that the drive
itself worked), but I seem to have lost it. :-(
Good luck in building the later gcc's. Be prepared for a very long wait
on those compiles. You may need to dig up some older gcc sources too,
since I don't know if the compiler included in 2.x is up to gcc 2.7.x.
Cheers,
Chris
--
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aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
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From: "Seo,Seungwoo" <inext@techie.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can I Install NeXT Step?
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 17:38:34 +0900
Organization: NEXT International
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Can I install NeXT Step up-to-date version??
Let me show My PC Spec
CPU:Intel Pentium2 233(Dual)
RAM:192M SDRAM(DIMM)
.
.
.
And please show me difference with NT and NeXT Step.
PS:What is Openstep? & Is there any ADOBE product(Photoshop/Illustrator)
for NeXTstep?
Thanks in advance!
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Subject: Re: TeXlive3 ?
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In <1998070701560200.VAA02485@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
..
% Where is it?
%
% Is the download broken into reasonable sized chunks?
It is on CD, you can get it from http://www.tug.org/texlive/
I just found that NS binaries are not on the CD but are available from
http://www.tug.org/texlive/bugs.html (cheap)
---- Antoine Gautier
| Faculte des Sciences de l'Administration
| Universite Laval
From: pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mpeg3 player for NeXT.
Date: 7 Jul 1998 18:33:37 GMT
Organization: private
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References: <35A1C102.29593EDF@accentcomm.com>
Gabriel Sebestyen <sebestyen_g@accentcomm.com> wrote:
>I'm seeking mpeg3 audio player for NeXT (Intel).
Check out MMP by Fank Siegert. You'll find it at http://www.this.net/~frank.
Christian
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Always crash on shutdown!
Date: 7 Jul 1998 18:59:06 GMT
Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe
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heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) wrote:
> I am running NS3.3 on intel hardware (Pentium). Since I installed it on the
> machine, it crashes every time I use the "Power Down" or "Restart" buttons on
> the login screen! When I push that button, it blanks the screen and all
> activity ceases. I can only push the hardware reset button or the main power
> switch. Of course, the disks are dirty afterwards and it takes for ever to
> boot again.
I have the same problem when I first use NS 3.3 on Intel. I have a
Matrox Millenium 2 PCI, a Sound Blaster 16 PNP (ISA) and a Etherlink
III PNP (ISA). The problem comes from a PNP probleme with the 2 ISA
boards (SB et Etherlink) and the Matrox. I have also a PNP BIOS, but
I had always a conflict which crashes the PC on shutdown.
To solve the problem, I bought a Etherlink XL PCI board (to replace
the ISA one) and I replace the SB 16 by a SB AWE 64, so I have now
only one ISA board (the SB), and no more conflict, so no more crash
(6 months without any crash!).
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From: yates@hiker.sas.upenn.edu (John H. Yates)
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Subject: Improv -> Excel (Access?)
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We are about to assist an office in converting a bunch of NeXT Improv
spreadsheets to Excel (or Access). Can anyone offer any advice, conversion
software, horror stories, or even refer us to a consultant that knows all
about it? Or pointers to where else to ask?
One problem, as I understand it, is that very complex Improv formulas were
used (it is very complex financial data), actually using advanced (database
type?) features that may not convert to Excel easily.
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I'm trying to compile ps_if (virtual hosting) on my turbo running 3.3 but none of the
include libraries are there (ie syslog.h, systm.h, etc.). Does anyone know where I
can get these or download them from?
Thanks in advance,
Brent
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From: "Seo,Seungwoo" <next@techie.com>
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Subject: Re: Can I Install NeXT Step?
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 16:16:45 +0900
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Please, Help me!!!
Thank you for your answer!!!
Seo,Seungwoo ÀÛ¼ºÇÔ:
> Can I install NeXT Step up-to-date version??
> Let me show My PC Spec
> CPU:Intel Pentium2 233(Dual)
> RAM:192M SDRAM(DIMM)
> .
> .
> .
> And please show me difference with NT and NeXT Step.
>
> PS:What is Openstep? & Is there any ADOBE product(Photoshop/Illustrator)
> for NeXTstep?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
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From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Always crash on shutdown!
Date: 8 Jul 1998 08:35:29 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
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References: <6ntr5q$d6f$2@front4.grolier.fr>
In article <6ntr5q$d6f$2@front4.grolier.fr> Eric Levenez
<levenez@club-internet.fr> writes:
> heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) wrote:
> > I am running NS3.3 on intel hardware (Pentium). Since I installed it on
the
> > machine, it crashes every time I use the "Power Down" or "Restart"
buttons on
>
> To solve the problem, I bought a Etherlink XL PCI board (to replace
> the ISA one) and I replace the SB 16 by a SB AWE 64, so I have now
> only one ISA board (the SB), and no more conflict, so no more crash
> (6 months without any crash!).
Eric,
this is very interesting, as I also have an ethernet card and a sound blaster
(but a different video card, however also PCI). I never got the SB16 to work,
whenever I selected it, it crashed my system *on boot* already! So I did not
activate it in Configure.app. I also DEactivated the PNP-support.
My question is: how can you see if there is a PNP-conflict? Is there a
special message during boot or elsewhere to look for??
Thanks for your help,
bye,
Helmut
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kivel=E4_Henri?= <hkivela@rieska.oulu.fi>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NextStep recovery disk..
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:51:52 +0300
Organization: University of Oulu
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Anyone can help me bring a NeXTcube back to life?
It has been out of use so long that no one can find the operating
system disks - or the admin password!
So a recovery disk or something would be nice (I have no experience with
NextStep, only with other Unix systems), just to mount the filesystem and
fix the /etc/passwd (or whatever the password file is!).
The cube works fine - I tried this morning - at least boots to the
user/passwd prompt.
Send me a raw image of disk like that in email, please?? Or if there's an
other way..?
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Always crash on shutdown!
Date: 8 Jul 1998 12:55:07 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
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References: <6ntr5q$d6f$2@front4.grolier.fr> <6nvb0h$2eb$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
>My question is: how can you see if there is a PNP-conflict? Is there a
>special message during boot or elsewhere to look for??
>
that is what Windows 95 is for ;-)
daniel
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv -> Excel (Access?)
Message-ID: <1998070813081100.JAA02392@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 8 Jul 1998 13:08:11 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6nukas$udn$1@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hmm, you might be able to dig up copies of Lotus Improv for Windows... Have you
considered that?
I know that Improv exports as one of the interchange file formats (SYLK?) but
not sure what one would do about the formulas.
Have you considered OS for Mach/Intel and getting Quantrix? (or whichever LH
program was Improv's equiv.)
William
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From: "Andrew Spencer" <andrew@e-net.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep recovery disk..
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 09:24:01 -0500
Organization: Inc.Net http://www.inc.net
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References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980708134109.21999A-100000@rieska>
You can press <command><command><~> at boot time to get a ROM monitor and
type "bsd -s" to boot into single user mode. then type "passwd" and change
your root password. I think that should do it. If I'm wrong I'm sure
somebody will correct me.
- Andrew
Kivelä Henri <hkivela@rieska.oulu.fi> wrote in message
Pine.GSO.3.95.980708134109.21999A-100000@rieska...
>Anyone can help me bring a NeXTcube back to life?
>
>It has been out of use so long that no one can find the operating
>system disks - or the admin password!
>
>So a recovery disk or something would be nice (I have no experience with
>NextStep, only with other Unix systems), just to mount the filesystem and
>fix the /etc/passwd (or whatever the password file is!).
>The cube works fine - I tried this morning - at least boots to the
>user/passwd prompt.
>
>Send me a raw image of disk like that in email, please?? Or if there's an
>other way..?
>
>
From: mkozakowski@flightsimcanada.com (M.K.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FlightsimCanada.com
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 16:18:30 GMT
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FlightsimCanada.com
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
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In <6nvv9t$cod$1@news.inc.net> "Andrew Spencer" wrote:
> You can press <command><command><~> at boot time to get a ROM monitor and
> type "bsd -s" to boot into single user mode. then type "passwd" and change
> your root password. I think that should do it. If I'm wrong I'm sure
> somebody will correct me.
Actually when you get to the Single User prompt (#) you need to first do:
sh /etc/rc &
and then wait for NetInfo to start up, and then try '/etc/nu -m' and modify
the root password
Then reboot as normal
I think that's it.
TjL
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From: "Barry Cisna" <brc@hcil.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WIN 98 Here:
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:20:12 -0500
Organization: news.outfitters.com
Message-ID: <6o0uo2$94$5@news.outfitters.com>
Hi ALL:
I have WIN 98 ,beta #3 on CD for sale.
This is the "full" version.
Cost is $15 + $2 postage to you = $17 total.
This has all the SDK tools,new drivers for USB,infrared,many video
cardsFat32, etc.
If intersted in it, please email me your mailing address, & I'll send it
out the following day I receive your addess.
Thanks,
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From: "Peter Aamodt" <aamodtpw@email.uc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv -> Excel (Access?)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:40:39 -0400
Organization: University of Cincinnati, ECE/CS News Server
Message-ID: <6o0htr$18j$1@news.ececs.uc.edu>
References: <6nukas$udn$1@netnews.upenn.edu> <1998070813081100.JAA02392@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Improv for Windows should help a lot - it exports to Excel 3.0 format.
Of course there are two critical points:
1. Bringing in a NeXT Improv 1.0 imx file to Win Improv 2.x may require some
rewrite of formulas - some function formats are different between the two
releases, as I recall.
2. The export options from Win Improv to Excel can be confusing and should
be tested.
Peter Aamodt
University of Cincinnati
WillAdams wrote in message
<1998070813081100.JAA02392@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>Hmm, you might be able to dig up copies of Lotus Improv for Windows... Have
you
>considered that?
>
From: BillLeeX@usac.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: User Preferences/Window Manager Options
Date: 9 Jul 1998 00:10:46 GMT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
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I have owned and used a NeXT as my home system for almost seven years now,
and I STILL can't get used to the "click-for-focus" employed by the window
manager. (Too many years of X with cursor-following-focus.)
Is there ANY way to get the window manager to do cursor-following-focus?
Along with non-auto-raise-on-focus?
Regards,
Bill Lee
(Take out the X to respond.)
PS: Please, no lectures on how I shouldn't want this capability because it's
"Not the NeXT thing." or some-such. I've had those before when I asked if
there was any way to customize the "look-and-feel" of the windows with
colored borders, etc. (BTW, is there?)
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
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In <6o11q6$2tg$1@news12.ispnews.com> BillLeeX@usac.net wrote:
> Is there ANY way to get the window manager to do cursor-following-focus?
Sure, there's a point-to-focus patch at
http://www.peak.org/~luomat/window-server-hacks/
It's a pretty straightforward, if you understand patching.
> Along with non-auto-raise-on-focus?
Huh? You mean you want to be able to click on a window and see it but not
make it "key" (ie not change the black bar at the top?)
Alt-click is the only thing I can think of.
> PS: Please, no lectures on how I shouldn't want this capability because
it's
> "Not the NeXT thing." or some-such.
I can't stand the point-to-focus thing myself, but you're welcome to it.
> I've had those before when I asked if there was any way to customize the
> "look-and-feel" of the windows with colored borders, etc. (BTW, is there?)
Nope.... not that I've ever heard of.....
TjL
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From: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs.app doesn't default in shell!
Date: 9 Jul 1998 02:25:21 GMT
Organization: IDT (Best News In The World)
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How does one make Emacs.app default install of the shell version of the
binary. For example, I would like to type emacs "name of file" and instead
of opening the terminal version of emacs. I want the file to open with
Emacs.app. I would I fix this. Do I need to create a static link?
Thank in advance.
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(NeXTMail,SUN,MIME)
/=====================================/
From: david614@boo.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Setting Up PPP -- Thanks Everyone
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 22:18:26 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6o0r7j$dtg$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hi There:
I just wanted to thank everyone who offered me assistance setting up ppp on
my Nextstation. I finally got it working yesterday, and it is a wonder to
behold.
Now, if someone could just suggest where I might get guidance setting up
NeXTMail (or is that sendmail)?......
Thanks again everyone.
David Mussington
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From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
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In <G0Vo1.36077$BE5.20995569@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> TjL wrote:
> > Along with non-auto-raise-on-focus?
>
> Huh? You mean you want to be able to click on a window and see it but not
> make it "key" (ie not change the black bar at the top?)
>
> Alt-click is the only thing I can think of.
Sorry to have been very unclear here.
You have to alt-click on the title-bar of the window you want to
move-forward-but-not make-key
TjL
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kivel=E4_Henri?= <hkivela@rieska.oulu.fi>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep recovery disk..
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:39:28 +0300
Organization: University of Oulu
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980709123124.28603C-100000@rieska>
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On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, TjL wrote:
> Actually when you get to the Single User prompt (#) you need to first do:
>
> sh /etc/rc &
>
> and then wait for NetInfo to start up, and then try '/etc/nu -m' and modify
> the root password
>
> Then reboot as normal
>
> I think that's it.
Thanks to both of you!
Actually the <command><command><~> didn't work, but I found a page called
AppleAnswers or so with keyword "boot monitor" or so. The keyboard of this
model is older one.. must use <command><command><|> (upper left of the
numpad).
After that it was easy to just follow your instructions..
This one has a 25MHz DSP.. I wonder if one could play mpeg (even layer 3?)
audio with that :).. 25MHz DSP should be enough at least for hardware mp3
decoder??
Now I'm going to find some software to test that.. any ideas..?
From: <e-glide@interport.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Compiling latest sendmail
Date: 9 Jul 1998 10:56:05 -0400
Organization: Interport Communications Corp.
Message-ID: <6o2lm5$mjv$1@interport.net>
User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980226 (UNIX) (SunOS/5.5.1 (sun4m))
Hi;
I'd really appreciate any help on how to compile sendmail 8.8.8
on my color turbo slab, now that I've downloaded and installed the package.
Thanks much
e-glide@interport.net
From: beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu (Richard Beigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: User Preferences/Window Manager Options
Date: 9 Jul 1998 13:47:41 GMT
Message-ID: <6o2hlt$1gj0@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
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TjL writes:
>You have to alt-click on the title-bar of the window you want to
>move-forward-but-not make-key
There doesn't seem to be a way to get the opposite effect (focus
without raising). By try clicking (anywhere in the window) and then
command-clicking on the title bar. This raises the window and then
lowers it.
-- Richard
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
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In <6o2hlt$1gj0@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Richard Beigel wrote:
> TjL writes:
>
> >You have to alt-click on the title-bar of the window you want to
> >move-forward-but-not make-key
>
> There doesn't seem to be a way to get the opposite effect (focus
> without raising). By try clicking (anywhere in the window) and then
> command-clicking on the title bar. This raises the window and then
> lowers it.
That's true, although I can't recall ever wanting that particular feature (I
wasn't even sure what it did until I tried it with enough windows to see it).
Just curious, you don't need to validate it but I'm confused as to when/what
situations that would be helpful.
TjL
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From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
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In <6o2lm5$mjv$1@interport.net> e-glide@interport.net wrote:
> I'd really appreciate any help on how to compile sendmail 8.8.8
> on my color turbo slab, now that I've downloaded and installed the package.
Why are you trying to compile it when it is already compiled?
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/sendmail.8.8.8.NIHS.bd.tar.gz
If you want to compile a special version, you should get 8.9.1 (recently
released) from ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: User Preferences/Window Manager Options
Message-ID: <1998070920133500.QAA16633@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 9 Jul 1998 20:13:35 GMT
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The alt-click, bring to front but not make key would be useful if one wanted a
window to become a drag target for a drop from a window in a different app
which would be obscured if the first app became active.
Obscure, but arguably useful, and a nicety.
William
William Adams
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From: hidinger@spawar.navy.mil (Ronald M. Hidinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: User Preferences/Window Manager Options
Date: 9 Jul 1998 20:12:30 GMT
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In <dw5p1.36098$BE5.21344024@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> TjL wrote:
> In <6o2hlt$1gj0@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Richard Beigel wrote:
> > TjL writes:
> >
> > >You have to alt-click on the title-bar of the window you want to
> > >move-forward-but-not make-key
> >
> > There doesn't seem to be a way to get the opposite effect (focus
> > without raising). By try clicking (anywhere in the window) and then
> > command-clicking on the title bar. This raises the window and then
> > lowers it.
>
> That's true, although I can't recall ever wanting that particular feature
(I
> wasn't even sure what it did until I tried it with enough windows to see
it).
>
> Just curious, you don't need to validate it but I'm confused as to
when/what
> situations that would be helpful.
>
> TjL
>
"When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
This is the one feature I miss from X based window managers, that is,
the ability to focus a partially obscured window. Cmd-clicking on the
title bar is only a partial work-around--the obscured focused window
can only be on the bottom and as soon as you click it, it pops back to
the top!
Why would I want such a feature? I typically work with multiple open
windows referring and inputting all over the place. Analogous to the
scroll bar placement arguments, much of a window's space is wasted or
uninteresting and can be ignored unless it is on top. Short of tiling
the windows or laboriously sizing and scrolling them just so, its handy
to, for instance, type into the bottom of one text view which is
obscured by other windows to which I refer while typing, as I'm doing
right now with Radical News' posting and browsing windows. It's
sometimes a pain to have to click on the border when you do want
to pop the window, but life is full of compromises.
Ron Hidinger
hidinger@nosc.mil
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In <6o387e$gkj@poisson.nosc.mil> Ronald M. Hidinger wrote:
> "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
Pithy, but not terribly illuminating. Doesn't help too much since my toolbox
works really well, I'm just wondering why you need that particular size of
allen (sp?) wrench when I've gotten through life fine using what is
available.
I use command-up|down to refer back to a window and then get back to the
window I'm inputting into...As near as I can understand, that's as close to
what you want to do as I know how to accomplish.
TjL
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From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep recovery disk..
Date: 9 Jul 1998 22:10:34 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <6o3f4q$13e$2@news.spacelab.net>
References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980708134109.21999A-100000@rieska> <6nvv9t$cod$1@news.inc.net> <yWQo1.36056$BE5.20870140@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> <Pine.GSO.3.95.980709123124.28603C-100000@rieska>
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kivel=E4_Henri?= <hkivela@rieska.oulu.fi> wrote:
[ ... ]
>Thanks to both of you!
>Actually the <command><command><~> didn't work, but I found a page called
>AppleAnswers or so with keyword "boot monitor" or so. The keyboard of this
>model is older one.. must use <command><command><|> (upper left of the
>numpad).
Actually, the upper-left keypad key _is_ the tilde on USA keyboards.
Your mileage for foreign keyboards may vary.... :-)
>This one has a 25MHz DSP.. I wonder if one could play mpeg (even layer 3?)
>audio with that :).. 25MHz DSP should be enough at least for hardware mp3
>decoder??
I'm pretty sure it would, since I seem to recall hearing of an Amiga mp3
player on roughly equivalent hardware.
>Now I'm going to find some software to test that.. any ideas..?
Go to one of the standard NeXT FTP sites (link from www.stepwise.com).
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
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From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Gehle Software and CDDesigner still operational?
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:15:24 GMT
Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Message-ID: <Evtwto.LzK@AWT.NL>
Hello people,
I (and others) have been trying to contact Gehle software. I want to
purchase CDDesigner and besides, CDDesigner is supposed to get a small bugfix
(it cannot write Unix file system images to CD, which is strange because an
image is an image right?). Anyway, I have been trying to contact Gehle and
others have too. But mail is not answered.
So my question, does anyone know more about this. Should we all forget about
this product and this firm? Has Gehle gone under?
Thanks,
---
Gerben Wierda,
Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid.
Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy
Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, Den Haag/The Hague, The Netherlands
Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992
http://www.AWT.nl/prive/wierda/
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:50:37 -0800
From: Brian Wotring <bj@denalisites.com>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Video Drivers for Mach
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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I have installed Mach 4.2 on a DELL Inspiron 3200 laptop which uses the
NeoMagic 2160 display chipset. Does anybody know how I might obtain
anything more than the default 640x480 black/white display ?
--
| Brian Wotring | bj@denalisites.com
| http://karanina.denalisites.com
From: hidinger@spawar.navy.mil (Ronald M. Hidinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: User Preferences/Window Manager Options
Date: 9 Jul 1998 21:47:45 GMT
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA 92147
Message-ID: <6o3dq1$gkj@poisson.nosc.mil>
References: <6o11q6$2tg$1@news12.ispnews.com> <G0Vo1.36077$BE5.20995569@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
<F6Zo1.36092$BE5.21135421@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> <6o2hlt$1gj0@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
<dw5p1.36098$BE5.21344024@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> <6o387e$gkj@poisson.nosc.mil>
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In <cR9p1.36104$BE5.21480125@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> TjL wrote:
> In <6o387e$gkj@poisson.nosc.mil> Ronald M. Hidinger wrote:
>
> > "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
>
> Pithy, but not terribly illuminating.
Okay, without turning this into a scroll bar discussion more suitable for
csna,
I must admit I don't miss it that much. And everytime I see one of these
discussions I fondly recall my Apollo workstation which had a number of
cool features which I've not seen since they got swallowed up by HP. Whoops,
am I have a deja vu episode?
Ron Hidinger
hidinger@nosc.mil
From: "." <e-glide@pop.interport.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app stopped sending mail?
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 18:55:52 +0000
Organization: .
Message-ID: <35A51237.4123@pop.interport.net>
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jmeacham@rosetta-stone.com wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Strange thing recently happened. My Mail.app stopped sending mail.
> It just doens't get out of the machine, doesn't seem to go anywhere.
> There are no files in /sur/spool/mqueue, and intra-machine mail
> doesn't get there either. Now the strange thing is (if this wasn't
> strange enough) is that if I use mail or pine or elm, the e-mail gets
> out. I've checked all the settings in the preferences, and they seem
> to be right. Any suggestions, 'cause it's a big pain to have to use
> pine everytime I get e-mail. Peace,
>
> James
I have what may be the exact same problem;
I hit Send in Mail.app, the modem lights flash as per normal, indicating
at least some sort of normal communication with my ISP's SMTP server,
but nothing gets there.
I'm stumped on this one.
e-glide@interport.net
From: Christian Jensen <cejensen@winternet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: Gehle Software and CDDesigner still operational?
Date: 9 Jul 1998 23:34:32 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <6o3k28$fpc$1@blackice.winternet.com>
References: <Evtwto.LzK@AWT.NL>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Jul 1998 23:34:32 GMT
G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) wrote:
>So my question, does anyone know more about this. Should we all forget about
>this product and this firm? Has Gehle gone under?
I can't imagine that they've gone under, since CDDesigner v1.4.1 just hit the
Peak archive two or so days ago.
However, I am in the same boat: I have e-mailed Gehle several times in recent
days, with *no* response. Also, the fax number included with the demo is
apparently out-of-date.
Can anyone shed any light on this? Is this guy (Carsten Gehle) on vacation or
what?
--Chris
**************************
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cejensen@winternet.com
MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger."
--Mark Twain
From: no.spam.please@no.spam.period
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Video Drivers for Mach
Date: 9 Jul 1998 23:54:43 GMT
Organization: ICGNetcom
Message-ID: <6o3l83$ed7@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com>
References: <35A5493D.22C1BCF9@denalisites.com>
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Cc: bj@denalisites.com
Deepspacetech (www.deepspacetech.com) was supposed to be working on a driver
for one of the NeoMagic chipsets, but I don't know the status.
Try the website for a phone number, they are in Maryland.
JP
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From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: Gehle Software and CDDesigner still operational?
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Message-ID: <Aldp1.36125$BE5.21576657@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:35:44 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:35:44 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
In <6o3k28$fpc$1@blackice.winternet.com> Christian Jensen wrote:
> Can anyone shed any light on this? Is this guy (Carsten Gehle) on vacation
or
> what?
All I can tell you is that 'GehleSoftware@t-online.de' is the address that
was used for contacting the PEAK folks.
TjL
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From: Jeffrey Meltzer <meltzer@icsnet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: User 3.3 Installed
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:29:21 -0400
Organization: VillageNet
Message-ID: <Pine.SO4.4.00.9807092128300.11195-100000@www>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
garbage.
I'm purchasing a Next box w/ User 3.3 installed on a 400 MB Drive.
What's the approx size of the OS at it's default installation?
---
jeffrey meltzer
intelligent computer solutions
(516) 218 0700
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: User 3.3 Installed
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References: <Pine.SO4.4.00.9807092128300.11195-100000@www>
Message-ID: <pPep1.36147$BE5.21623082@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 02:15:49 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 19:15:49 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
In <Pine.SO4.4.00.9807092128300.11195-100000@www> Jeffrey Meltzer wrote:
> I'm purchasing a Next box w/ User 3.3 installed on a 400 MB Drive.
> What's the approx size of the OS at it's default installation?
3.3 User/m68k took about 80-90 MB of my 105mb drive, I believe.
You'll want at least 16mb for swapspace on top of that (the more the
merrier).
TjL
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From: Christian Jensen <cejensen@winternet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Gehle Software and CDDesigner still operational?
Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:21:54 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <6o41ci$hpn$1@blackice.winternet.com>
References: <Evtwto.LzK@AWT.NL> <6o3k28$fpc$1@blackice.winternet.com> <Aldp1.36125$BE5.21576657@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:21:54 GMT
nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org
(TjL) wrote:
>All I can tell you is that 'GehleSoftware@t-online.de' is the address that
>was used for contacting the PEAK folks.
That's the address that I (and everyone else I'm sure) has been using. I
wonder: Sure he sent some e-mail to PEAK using that address, but did he ever
reply to a note PEAK sent him?
(Considering the fact that he just posted a new version, I'm starting to
wonder if he doesn't have some sort of e-mail problem: Somehow I envision him
sitting there posting his update and wondering why he's not getting any
orders, and all the while orders pile up at /dev/null or something.)
This is Gehle Software's address:
Ziegeler & Gehle Infosystems
Kueckelberg 8
D-333181 Wuennenberg
Germany
Does anyone out there live nearby? Anyone feel like trying to call them?
--Chris
**************************
Chris Jensen
cejensen@winternet.com
MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Always crash on shutdown!
Date: 10 Jul 1998 07:38:56 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6o4geg$sss$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <6ntr5q$d6f$2@front4.grolier.fr>
In article <6ntr5q$d6f$2@front4.grolier.fr> Eric Levenez
<levenez@club-internet.fr> writes:
> heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) wrote:
> > I am running NS3.3 on intel hardware (Pentium). Since I installed it on
the
> > machine, it crashes every time I use the "Power Down" or "Restart"
buttons on
> > the login screen! When I push that button, it blanks the screen and all
> > activity ceases. I can only push the hardware reset button or the main
power
> > switch. Of course, the disks are dirty afterwards and it takes for ever
to
> > boot again.
>
> I have the same problem when I first use NS 3.3 on Intel. I have a
> Matrox Millenium 2 PCI, a Sound Blaster 16 PNP (ISA) and a Etherlink
> III PNP (ISA). The problem comes from a PNP probleme with the 2 ISA
> boards (SB et Etherlink) and the Matrox. I have also a PNP BIOS, but
> I had always a conflict which crashes the PC on shutdown.
Hello Eric,
as a test I removed my Creative labs sound blaster card, but I still have the
same behaviour. So I am afraid, in my case, the crashes on shutdown with the
GUI buttons must have a different reason. Thank you very much for your help!
Bye,
Helmut
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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: User Preferences/Window Manager Options
Date: 9 Jul 98 08:57:38
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SCOTT.98Jul9085738@slave.doubleu.com>
References: <6o11q6$2tg$1@news12.ispnews.com>
<G0Vo1.36077$BE5.20995569@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
<F6Zo1.36092$BE5.21135421@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
<6o2hlt$1gj0@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
In-reply-to: beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu's message of 9 Jul 1998 13:47:41 GMT
In article <6o2hlt$1gj0@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>,
beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu (Richard Beigel) writes:
TjL writes:
>You have to alt-click on the title-bar of the window you want to
>move-forward-but-not make-key
There doesn't seem to be a way to get the opposite effect (focus
without raising). By try clicking (anywhere in the window) and
then command-clicking on the title bar. This raises the window and
then lowers it.
Command-click the titlebar to push it back. Alt-click to bring it
forward. Command-up-arrow to pull the backmost window to the top.
Command-down-arrow to push the frontmost window to the back.
Later,
--
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<Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots
Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Christian.Colin@emn.fr (Christian Colin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Last release of Bibliography.app
Date: 10 Jul 1998 10:07:01 GMT
Organization: Ecole des Mines de Nantes
Message-ID: <6o4p45$4cq$1@wfn.emn.fr>
I am using Bibliography.app v 1.2a to manage BibTeX database files under
NEXTSTEP 3.3. Do you know if there is a newer version ? And where can we
upload it ?
Thanks in advance for your help
Christian
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Gehle Software and CDDesigner still operational?
Date: 10 Jul 1998 10:09:44 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6o4p98$2822@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <Evtwto.LzK@AWT.NL> <6o3k28$fpc$1@blackice.winternet.com> <Aldp1.36125$BE5.21576657@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> <6o41ci$hpn$1@blackice.winternet.com>
Christian Jensen (cejensen@winternet.com) wrote:
: Does anyone out there live nearby? Anyone feel like trying to call them?
My last communication with him was in May:
Date: Sun, 24 May 98 22:56:20 +0200
To: ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
Subject: CDDesigner
Reply-To: GehleSoftware@t-online.de
X-Sender: 0295399126-0001@t-online.de
From: GehleSoftware@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle)
when he read about a problem of us (in the new, but I think in
dejanews, while browsing, not directly), he contacted me because
of it.
When we first bought the license, we talked together several times over
the phone (I asked about what hw he'd consider optimal for CDDesigner
etc.). He was very responsive with this and problems we had/have and
(see above) still is. He announced the next version (1.4.1) in that mail
for the then next week, but as always, sw takes a little longer to get
ready :-). It's there now, I just installed it a few minutes ago.
He seems to be a very busy man, though, traveling around at least in
Germany quite a bit. Best chances to catch him on phone was on Fridays,
though he mostly called (back) himself if I dropped him a note (e.g.
via e-mail). So I don't understand why you experience these problems
other than he is on holiday or there's something keeping him busy.
I'm not related or affiliated with him or his company other than
being a (mostly) satisfied license-customer.
Greetings,
Ruediger Oberhage
--
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Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Last release of Bibliography.app
Date: 10 Jul 1998 11:32:15 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6o4u3v$cso$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6o4p45$4cq$1@wfn.emn.fr>
Christian.Colin@emn.fr (Christian Colin) wrote:
>I am using Bibliography.app v 1.2a to manage BibTeX database files under
>NEXTSTEP 3.3. Do you know if there is a newer version ? And where can we
>upload it ?
I'm not aware of any newer version. It would probably appear on peanuts
pretty quickly. Maybe you could try to contact the author and inquire
about a new release, as there are still a few minor quirks in 1.2a.
Regards, Chris
--
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Last release of Bibliography.app
Date: 10 Jul 1998 14:48:49 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6o59kh$n3q$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <6o4p45$4cq$1@wfn.emn.fr>
In article <6o4p45$4cq$1@wfn.emn.fr> Christian.Colin@emn.fr (Christian Colin)
writes:
> I am using Bibliography.app v 1.2a to manage BibTeX database files under
> NEXTSTEP 3.3. Do you know if there is a newer version ? And where can we
> upload it ?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help
>
> Christian
I am using 1.4a on NS3.3.
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From: "Andrew Spencer" <andrew@e-net.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep recovery disk..
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:14:32 -0500
Organization: Inc.Net http://www.inc.net
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>>This one has a 25MHz DSP.. I wonder if one could play mpeg (even layer 3?)
>>audio with that :).. 25MHz DSP should be enough at least for hardware mp3
>>decoder??
>
>I'm pretty sure it would, since I seem to recall hearing of an Amiga mp3
>player on roughly equivalent hardware.
This is something I've been waiting for somebody to develop. I'm not a
programmer really, and I don't think this would be a good "beginner's
project". Most of the MP3 players out there are FAT binary for both Intel
and NeXT, but they don't make any use of the NeXT DSP. I believe the source
code is available for MMP <on peak> so modifications could be made.
Let me know if maybe there IS something out there that I've overlooked!
- Andrew
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Last release of Bibliography.app
Date: 10 Jul 1998 15:00:25 GMT
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Helmut Heller (heller@lrz.de) wrote:
: In article <6o4p45$4cq$1@wfn.emn.fr> Christian.Colin@emn.fr (Christian Colin)
: writes:
: > I am using Bibliography.app v 1.2a to manage BibTeX database files under
: > NEXTSTEP 3.3. Do you know if there is a newer version ? And where can we
: > upload it ?
: >
: > Thanks in advance for your help
: >
: > Christian
:
: I am using 1.4a on NS3.3.
How come? Even peanuts just has the 1.2a version - I just looked at it.
Private communication?
Greetings,
Ruediger
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From: mnsharp@nonsequitur.net-link.net (Matthew N. Sharp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can I Install NeXT Step?
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:24:16 -0400
Organization: is time consuming but worthwhile
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In article <35A1DE8A.41890351@techie.com>, "Seo,Seungwoo"
<inext@techie.com> wrote:
> Can I install NeXT Step up-to-date version??
> Let me show My PC Spec
> CPU:Intel Pentium2 233(Dual)
> RAM:192M SDRAM(DIMM)
> .
> .
> .
Possibly you can, but it depends on your hardware
setup, which you can determine by visiting NeXTAnswers
(http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/)
(and more precisely,
http://enterprise.apple.com/cgi-bin/NABrowse?/Compatibility_Guides)
and comparing your system to the requirements.
> And please show me difference with NT and NeXT Step.
NeXTSTEP is BSD UNIX-based operating system, NT is not.
>
> PS:What is Openstep? & Is there any ADOBE product(Photoshop/Illustrator)
> for NeXTstep?
Openstep (the OS) is a renamed, updated version of NeXTSTEP.
Adobe Illustrator is available for NeXTSTEP in an early version.
FrameMaker is also available in an early version (although at
the time this was released, FrameMaker was not an Adobe
product).
matthew n. sharp
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From: Ron Smith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Last release of Bibliography.app
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:20:34 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
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Hi,
I've been using version 1.4a (April 5, 1998) since it came out, and it
has a few enhancements over the 1.2a version. I was able to download
it from
ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/giesen
I was also able to reach the author (Heinrich Giesen) at
giesen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de
Definitely a great program, and has saved me oodles of time.
HTH!
Ron
On 10 Jul 1998 11:32:15 GMT, Christian Neuss
<neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote:
>Christian.Colin@emn.fr (Christian Colin) wrote:
>>I am using Bibliography.app v 1.2a to manage BibTeX database files under
>>NEXTSTEP 3.3. Do you know if there is a newer version ? And where can we
>>upload it ?
>
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
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In <6o5b0i$c3a$1@news.inc.net> "Andrew Spencer" wrote:
> This is something I've been waiting for somebody to develop. I'm not a
> programmer really, and I don't think this would be a good "beginner's
> project". Most of the MP3 players out there are FAT binary for both Intel
> and NeXT, but they don't make any use of the NeXT DSP. I believe the source
> code is available for MMP <on peak> so modifications could be made.
Source code for MMP is not on PEAK, nor is it available anywhere as far as I
know.
Frank Siegert is the author, you can find the "official" site for MMP at
http://www.this.net/~frank/
TjL
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From: Robert Forsyth <bobby@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Always crash on shutdown!
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:25:49 +0000
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Basically the GUI shutdown on Intel, switches Video Mode on shutdown, it
seems like the Video driver is at fault, try an later or earlier
version. You could try using the Default VGA driver, to isolate the
problem.
The video driver should switch back to 640x480 4 level grey on GUI
shutdown, like at start up. The Command-~ does not switch video mode.
Rob.
Helmut Heller wrote:
>
> In article <AjOn1.35921$BE5.18890753@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
> nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org
> (TjL) writes:
> >
> > I'm not sure what the exact problem you are having is:
> >
> > 1) machine refusing to shutdown/reboot
> > or
> > 2) getting a system panic when you try to shutdown/reboot
> >
>
> It isn't exactly 1 or 2, more
>
> 3) when I try to shut the system down (or reboot) via the GRAPHICAL interface
> (buttons on the login screen), the system CRASHES (no panic! Just that the
> screen goes black and nothing happens any more).
> If, instead, I use the keyboard sequence COMMAND-~(Keypad) and then type "h"
> into the little low level panel that comes up, everything works fine.
>
> I know what it looks like if there are processes that won't die and this is
> DIFFERENT! Also, the system is working fine otherwise every day and so I
> think the main board and SCSI are both ok.
>
> I don't want to re-install the whole system, but I was thinking I would
> re-install just those files that become active during GIOU power-down. Only
> catch: I don't know which files this would be!!! Can anyone help or hint at
> s.th.??
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Helmut
>
> --
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> FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
> heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7
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From: Robert Forsyth <bobby@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Video Drivers for Mach
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:29:34 +0000
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It's almost finished, It works to some extent on another Dell laptop,
but some wrikles need ironing out.
Rob.
no.spam.please@no.spam.period wrote:
>
> Deepspacetech (www.deepspacetech.com) was supposed to be working on a driver
> for one of the NeoMagic chipsets, but I don't know the status.
>
> Try the website for a phone number, they are in Maryland.
>
> JP
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Last release of Bibliography.app
Date: 10 Jul 1998 20:39:02 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6o5u56$1mb$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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Ron Smith wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've been using version 1.4a (April 5, 1998) since it came out, and it
>has a few enhancements over the 1.2a version. I was able to download
>it from
>
>ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/giesen
>
>I was also able to reach the author (Heinrich Giesen) at
>giesen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de
Thanks for the info, Ron. I just sent an email to Heinrich and
asked him to submit to peanuts, hopefully, 1.4 will appear
there soon. BTW, is there an automatic mechanism that makes
peanut submissions automatically appear on peak?
>Definitely a great program, and has saved me oodles of time.
Most definitely!
Regards, Chris
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
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From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
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In <6o5u56$1mb$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> BTW, is there an automatic mechanism that makes
> peanut submissions automatically appear on peak?
No, but putting an announcement onto csn.announce usually caught my attention
if the file hadn't made it to PEAK.
Unfortunately bandwidth problems etc between the US and Peanuts is so
unreliable that I have difficulty downloading the Index file from the Peanuts
site daily.... about 2-3 days a week the automated process fails, and that is
one simple file, so setting up any type of mirror would be difficult.
There was some discussion some time ago about trying to collaborate on a new
layout which would then be adopted by both sites (taking the best of both and
combining them) but the logistics would be fairly difficult. As time goes on
I am more and more thinking that such a scenario would be preferable.
Right now there is a lot of duplication of effort as far as coming up with
new ideas for layout as Rhapsody progresses. IMO both of the sites have a
lot of old apps which SHOULD BE KEPT but some of the subdirectories are
cluttered with both brand new and very old apps in the same directory. Many
times the age of an app doesn't much matter, but there are times when an
app's functionality is displaced.
There are far too many items without version numbers still remaining (at
least on PEAK, I haven't looked at Peanuts closely for some time). It takes
time to download, unarchive, and find the version number (especially with
many apps without version numbers on the Info panel). There are demos which
have either expired (back in the days when "time bombing" was popular) or
where the company has disappeared and no new license strings can be found.
In some cases there are duplicates of programs (when you are dealing with
~4gb of files it can be hard to keep track).
And as the Internet explosion has taken over, more and more apps are being
distributed from personal web pages (which is undesirable for several
reasons, not the least of which are: the fact there is no way to restart an
interruped HTTP download; the greater possibility that a new user will use an
old version found on the FTP site because the new release was not uploaded to
the site, etc).
Unfortunately the amount of "man hours" it would take to solve all these
problems is much greater than the available time to do it. Add to that the
time & energy it would take to come up with a new structure, and we're
approaching infinity (not to mention the scads of the broken links to both
sites).
As far as the NeXT/OpenStep parts of the sites go, I think getting an
identical setup on both sites is highly unlikely (although, as I said, as
more time passes I become more and more convinced this would be easier for
both the site administrators and site users.... One set of paths that can be
used on peanuts for European folks and used on peak for US folks (or whatever
is closer to whoever) would make it much simpler.
I would hope that as MacOS X(Server)? progresses there would be continued
dialog and perhaps a joint structure could be created. In order for that to
happen in anything like an efficient manner, no more than 2 people from each
site would have to be given the go-ahead by the rest of the folks associated
with the site to discuss and design the new structure. Any more than that
and there would be too many chefs (I think ideally it would be 1 committed
person from each side).
All of this is easy for me to say, of course, as I prepare to move on and
will be largely absent when the work needs to be done.
If it were done, it would be best done quickly, before the number of MacOS
X(Server)? applications, etc becomes too vast. Right now there is still
enough time to progress before links propagate far and wide and a
restructuring would be very disruptive.
Anyway those are just my thoughts on the matter which I was not expecting to
detail as specifically as I have (I started this post with the intention of
only writing the first few lines of my above response). I decided to CC the
FTP admins of both sites just to let them know that this topic has come up
again on Usenet, and my guess is that the population would greatly appreciate
a unified front from both sites.
TjL
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From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
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I dunno if this would help, but have you tried turning OFF the graphics on
Shutdown?
This can be done in Configure.app, but it is easier to just edit the table
file directly:
Here's what mine looks like so you can see where to put the line (and note
capitalization, spacing, etc)
/private/Drivers/i386/System.config/Instance0.table
"Kernel Flags" = "";
"Boot Graphics" = "No";
"Shutdown Graphics" = "No";
"Version" = "4.00";
<snip>
TjL
From: a l t e n ber@nashville.com (L e e Al te nb erg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mathematica 2.2 for NeXT HW, binary needed
Date: 11 Jul 1998 04:53:00 GMT
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I am away from home, using a NextStation, and I want to run Mathematica over
the network using my licenced kernel on an Intel machine. So I need the
Mathematica 2.2 front end for NeXT hardware. Wolfram Research no longer
provides it.
I don't even need a licence, since that covers the kernel, and I am not going
to try license the kernel to run on my local machine. So I just need the
binary distribution which allows one to connect to any licensed kernel.
However, if you would be willing to sell me your license, please let me know.
So if you have the Mathematica 2.2/NeXT distribution, I would be grateful if
you could NeXT-mail it to me.
Thanks,
Lee
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From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
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Subject: Re: PEAK and Peanuts (was Re: Last release of Bibliography.app)
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On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, TjL wrote:
> In <6o5u56$1mb$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
>
> > BTW, is there an automatic mechanism that makes
> > peanut submissions automatically appear on peak?
>
> No, but putting an announcement onto csn.announce usually caught my attention
> if the file hadn't made it to PEAK.
>
> Unfortunately bandwidth problems etc between the US and Peanuts is so
> unreliable that I have difficulty downloading the Index file from the Peanuts
> site daily.... about 2-3 days a week the automated process fails, and that is
> one simple file, so setting up any type of mirror would be difficult.
>
> There was some discussion some time ago about trying to collaborate on a new
> layout which would then be adopted by both sites (taking the best of both and
> combining them) but the logistics would be fairly difficult. As time goes on
> I am more and more thinking that such a scenario would be preferable.
>
Just two quick comments.
As a user I would prefer if I didn't have to look at both sites to find
the most current version of an app I need. Thus, some kind of automatic
process would be nice - how about 1x a week during some low net usage time
period? Like Thursday night? Or Friday night? Or ... how about measuring
the bandwidth for a few weeks to find the low usage window? Hehe, even the
measuring could be a part of the automatic syncing process, as the window
could change as time progresses - here you can see that I am
a statistician :-)))
I suspect that the times of the wonderful NeXTstep/OpenStep community are
getting closer to being over as we slowly merge with the Mac folks. (Of
course, the new mixed community will combine the best of both worlds,
similarly as MacOS X does <*smile*>).
Therefore some effort should possibly be put into a discussion about
possible coordination with the MacOS ftp site admins, like University of
Michigan archive etc.
Secondly, no matter what the decision, I would like to take the chance to
thank both teams - the Peak and Peanuts - folks for what they did for the
NeXT enthusiasts over the years. I really use and love both sites a lot.
Good work, guys, thanks.
Rudy
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From: "sarawoot" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Paula and Mod
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 22:52:22 -0500
Organization: N/A
Message-ID: <6o9c6o$16fk$1@news.missouri.edu>
Where can I get the Paula to play MODFILE?
or are there any software to play MODFILE on NeXT?
I tried to search but couldn't find..
any input are greatly appreciate.
thanks a lot
Sarawoot
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <668899611234@digifix.com>
Date: 12 Jul 1998 03:48:54 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <26220900216033@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Paula and Mod
Date: 12 Jul 1998 12:27:53 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
Message-ID: <6oaa49$45q$1@news.seicom.net>
References: <6o9c6o$16fk$1@news.missouri.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Cc: c641625@showme.missouri.edu
In <6o9c6o$16fk$1@news.missouri.edu> "sarawoot" wrote:
> Where can I get the Paula to play MODFILE?
> or are there any software to play MODFILE on NeXT?
> I tried to search but couldn't find..
> any input are greatly appreciate.
My MMP can do this for Intel (however not for all and every MOD file as the
tracker is a bit old)... See my URL...
--
* Frank M. Siegert [frank@wizards.de] - Home http://www.wizards.de
* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard
* Note: [frank@this.net] is still a valid option to send me eMail
* "The answer is vi, what was your question...?"
From: "Häussler" <comdes@vossnet.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sorry for German only
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:02:55 +0200
Organization: Voss Net Communications GmbH
Message-ID: <6oac3p$7vm$1@news.vossnet.de>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Jul 1998 13:01:45 GMT
Hallo zusammen,
Freeware addon gefällig für Win95 /98 komprimiert Registry etc.
http://pages.vossnet.de/comdes
Gruss
Fred
From: TelNet Communication <telnet@ntr.net>
Subject: Re: Paula and Mod
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <6o9c6o$16fk$1@news.missouri.edu> <6oaa49$45q$1@news.seicom.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID: <2Zoq1.857$Uh3.1171980327@news.ntr.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:37:50 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:37:50 EDT
Organization: ntr.net Corporation
In comp.sys.next.software Frank M. Siegert <frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de> wrote:
> In <6o9c6o$16fk$1@news.missouri.edu> "sarawoot" wrote:
> > Where can I get the Paula to play MODFILE?
> > or are there any software to play MODFILE on NeXT?
> > I tried to search but couldn't find..
> > any input are greatly appreciate.
> My MMP can do this for Intel (however not for all and every MOD file as the
> tracker is a bit old)... See my URL...
how hard would it be for you to do a black hardware release of MMP ?
I've been looking for something that plays MODs or S3Ms on my net for a while.
The currently available programs dont understand many of the MODs i listen
to at all.
--
*************************************************************************
* Matt Evans ntr.net Corporation *
* ntr.net Corporation - Development Group http://www.ntr.net *
* bmajik@ntr.net (502) 583 3777 *
*************************************************************************
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sorry for German only
Date: 13 Jul 1998 17:44:54 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6odh2m$ajb$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6oac3p$7vm$1@news.vossnet.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
"Häussler" <comdes@vossnet.de> wrote:
[german posting deleted]
That was Spam, please ignore it. Perhaps put him in your killfile
(address seems to be authentic).
Best regards, Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.."
// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Always crash on shutdown!
Distribution: world
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
References: <giwp1.3$RO5.104@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> <6ocbvd$1g5$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Message-ID: <vEsq1.679$RO5.1478798@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:48:59 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:48:59 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
In <6ocbvd$1g5$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Helmut Heller wrote:
> I am trying this now, but I already noticed that my
> System.config/Instance0.table shows Version=3.3 and no entry for Shutdown
> graphics (I added one now). Are you using NS3.3?
No, however my 4.2 system did not have it either, it had to be added manually
for both.
Using the Configure.app and then the Expert settings is one way to do it....
but editing the file directly is easier due to some strange behavior in
Configure.app (it kept doing something odd when I hit "return" to save the
settings... I can't remember exactly what).
I learned about this feature on Usenet, I've never seen it mentioned anywhere
else.
TjL
--
As of 31 July 1998 I will no longer be able to actively participate
in PEAK's FTP site. Please make sure to all questions/comments/etc
go to <next-ftp@peak.org>. I will be offline for up to 3 months
and do not know how much time I will have then (job & real life).
From: "Ragnarok" <bgray@bifrostworks.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP!!! Need Fax 2.0 Recieving App
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:07:45 -0500
Organization: The Black Box Internet Access Houston TX 713-638-9983/409-638-1000
Message-ID: <900360467.377319@news.blkbox.com>
Cache-Post-Path: news.blkbox.com!unknown@ratbert.bifrostworks.com
Please Help,
Does anyone know where I can find Fax 2.0 recieving software for 4.2. I
have found Jollys2.0_Fax on peak's ftp but it is, unfortunately, only for
sending. I have also checked NeXT Answers without success!
It seems hard to believe that no one has developed a 2.0 standard fax app.
Tell me it isn't so!!!!!!!!!
Thank You,
Bradley Gray
bgray@bifrostworks.com
From: julieTAKEMEOUT@SPAMMING.otoson.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Shakespeare & Quotations from NS 3.2
Date: 13 Jul 1998 21:56:33 GMT
Organization: Hopalong Corporation
Message-ID: <6odvqh$9ph@news.vbe.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello All:
Is there anybody who can help me or suggest how I could resolve this problem?
Upon moving to OPENSTEP 4.2, and while trying to load the Shakespeare &
Quotations programs from my NEXTSTEP 3.2 CD disk, I discovered that I have
cracks and scratches in it which prevent me from loading this program.
It took me a while and a few reboots later and when the entire system seemed
to stall because of this before I thought to inspect the CD to see if there
was any damage of some type to it. Sure enough. Must have happened in the
last move and I certainly don't and didn't have a CD-R to make a back-up of
this.
Believing that this CD was okay and due to a few other circumstances, I
wasn't able to perform an upgrade and had to do a fresh installation on the
disk.
Might it be possible for Apple to replace this CD if I send in the damaged
one? I would really like to keep this 3.2 version just because if I can
obtain one. For now, however, just getting the Shakespeare & Quotations
packages so I can install it would suffice.
Thanks
Julie (julieTAKEMEOUT@SPAMMING.otoson.com)
NeXTmail Works for me but only after applying spam away.
From: "sarawoot" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT --> PC??
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 23:16:34 -0500
Organization: N/A
Message-ID: <6oemc3$1kq4$1@news.missouri.edu>
Hi NeXT Geeks,
I just connect my NeXT and PC. The PC use ethernet card w/ RJ45 and
connected to the hub. So does NeXT. The PC is running Win98 and NeXT's
running OPENSTEP4.2. I set the IP address and host name for both machines.
For now, I can ping between "NeXT <-> PC". I can telnet from PC to
NeXT. I can use FTP on PC.
The problem is.. I can't use telnet or FTP from NeXT to PC at all. What
should I do? Do I need Samba or Rumba or special setup/software? Also, are
there any ways to shared "internet connection", which is on my PC?
Any comments, recommend, suggestion or observations are greatly welcome.
Thank you very much in advanced.
Your Sincerely,
Sarawoot Chittratanawat
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Last release of Bibliography.app
Date: 14 Jul 1998 07:55:36 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <6of2to$29a3@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6o4p45$4cq$1@wfn.emn.fr> <6ocqbd$6tm$1@newshost>
Heinrich Giesen (giesen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) wrote:
: [...]
: In a few days v 1.4b will be submitted to the peanuts archive.
Many thanks...
: It can also be found in
:
: ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/giesen
... for both.
Some over here are heavily relying on it and me personally, I like
it.
[Yes, I know, there will always be (and sometimes show up) another bug :-).
But see how usefull it is and as of bugs, compare it to WinXX :-)].
Ruediger Oberhage
--
H.-R. Oberhage
Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
S05 V07 E88
Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: More Sendmail troubles on black hardware
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
References: <6of3d3$c31$1@winter.news.erols.com>
Message-ID: <qMEq1.712$RO5.1863165@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:36:38 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 01:36:38 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
In <6of3d3$c31$1@winter.news.erols.com> e-glide@interport.net wrote:
> Jul 14 03:38:36 sinistar sendmail[284]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(sinistar): dbm map
"Ali\
> as0": unsafe map file /etc/sendmail/aliases
>
> There is no /etc/sendmail/aliases subdirectory. Should the
> sendmail 8.8.8 binary distribution have installed one?
> I have already reinstalled this version of sendmail.
> Any help would be appreciated.
/etc/sendmail.cf must have a line in it that looks something like this:
O AliasFile=netinfo:/aliases,/etc/sendmail/aliases
Either make an aliases file at /etc/sendmail/aliases (and then run
'newaliases' as root) or edit the sendmail.cf file to not refer to the
aliases file there.
Then restart sendmail (kill -1 or kill -HUP).
Hope that helps
TjL
--
As of 31 July 1998 I will no longer be able to actively participate
in PEAK's FTP site. Please make sure to all questions/comments/etc
go to <next-ftp@peak.org>. I will be offline for up to 3 months
and do not know how much time I will have then (job & real life).
From: cdbgraf@earthlink.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: scanning transparencies
Date: 14 Jul 1998 09:13:33 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <6of7ft$eio$1@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
i have an hsd scan-x color w/ powerscan software.
are there any hardware and/or software additions that will enable me to scan
transparent film, e.g. 35mm slides, etc.?
thanks for any help,
chris borden
cdbgraf@earthlink.net
From: <e-glide@interport.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: More Sendmail troubles on black hardware
Date: 14 Jul 1998 08:03:47 GMT
Organization: Erol's Internet Services
Message-ID: <6of3d3$c31$1@winter.news.erols.com>
User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980226 (UNIX) (SunOS/5.5.1 (sun4m))
Hi all;
I'm unable to successfully send mail from my color turbo slab.
One day, it simply stopped working. Modem lights flash,
looks like it's talking to my ISP's smtp server, but nothing
gets where it's supposed to.
I'm using the sendmail.sharedsubdsidiary.cf config file (which
has worked fine until now), and the console shows this message:
Jul 14 03:38:36 sinistar sendmail[284]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(sinistar): dbm map "Ali\
as0": unsafe map file /etc/sendmail/aliases
There is no /etc/sendmail/aliases subdirectory. Should the
sendmail 8.8.8 binary distribution have installed one?
I have already reinstalled this version of sendmail.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
sinistar@sinistar.com
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PEAK and Peanuts (was Re: Last release of Bibliography.app)
Date: 14 Jul 1998 09:47:20 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6of9f8$f79$3@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6o4p45$4cq$1@wfn.emn.fr> <6o4u3v$cso$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <35a66873.635042@usenet.ufl.edu> <6o5u56$1mb$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <Nhwp1.2$RO5.104@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Timothy wrote:
>In <6o5u56$1mb$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
>
>> BTW, is there an automatic mechanism that makes
>> peanut submissions automatically appear on peak?
>
>No, but putting an announcement onto csn.announce usually caught my
attention
>if the file hadn't made it to PEAK.
>
>Unfortunately bandwidth problems etc between the US and Peanuts is so
>unreliable that I have difficulty downloading the Index file from the
Peanuts
>site daily.... about 2-3 days a week the automated process fails, and that
is
>one simple file, so setting up any type of mirror would be difficult.
Try to automate it (farily simple with wget and cron) and run it early
in the morning, when the Americans are still asleep. Bandwith is pretty
good at that time (I can tell, I'm on the other side of the pond).
If that fails, I'll be very happy to set up an automated mechanism that
pushes data onto peak, or any other site you like. Please drop me a line
if that is the case.
>There was some discussion some time ago about trying to collaborate on a new
>layout which would then be adopted by both sites (taking the best of both
and
>combining them) but the logistics would be fairly difficult. As time goes
on
>I am more and more thinking that such a scenario would be preferable.
...
Absolutely.
>And as the Internet explosion has taken over, more and more apps are being
>distributed from personal web pages (which is undesirable for several
>reasons, not the least of which are: the fact there is no way to restart an
>interruped HTTP download; the greater possibility that a new user will use
Hear, hear. Distributing Apps from personal web pages is a Bad Thing
(I know, I'm guilty myself). Peanuts and Peak are wonderful resources,
especially since you can purchase inexpensive CDROMs with the archive
contents. You're at a customers site and need an app, or some docu?
Just use the CDROM. That's just not possible with Apps cluttered all
over the Web.
Regards, Chris
--
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Always crash on shutdown!
Date: 14 Jul 1998 07:29:39 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
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References: <vEsq1.679$RO5.1478798@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org
(TjL) writes:
> No, however my 4.2 system did not have it either, it had to be added
> manually for both.
OK, thanks!
>
> Using the Configure.app and then the Expert settings is one way to do
> it.... but editing the file directly is easier due to some strange behavior
> in Configure.app (it kept doing something odd when I hit "return" to save
> the settings... I can't remember exactly what).
Right! Configure.app moves lines around, trashes entries I just made, etc. So
I followed your advice and edited the file directly.
>
> I learned about this feature on Usenet, I've never seen it mentioned
> anywhere else.
It is increadable, but NOW IT WORKS!!!!!!
Thank you SOOO MUCH! I was plagued by this bug for almost a year and thanks
to your help it is solved now (well, at least a satisfying workaround -- who
knows what is going wrong in the first place...).
I wish you all the best in your new job and hope that we will see you around
here from time to time :-)
Bye,
Helmut
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: scanning transparencies
Date: 14 Jul 1998 10:14:17 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6ofb1p$hb3$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6of7ft$eio$1@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
cdbgraf@earthlink.net wrote:
>i have an hsd scan-x color w/ powerscan software.
>
>are there any hardware and/or software additions that will enable me to scan
>transparent film, e.g. 35mm slides, etc.?
The HSD really is a UMAX scanner painted black (I've forgotten the model,
but you should be able to find that out). Maybe it's still possible to
get the UMAX hardware add-on for scanning transparencies. Be warned, the
HSD is a three pass scanner and hence not very precise.
What you can do though is scan in slides by simply putting them in the
scanner without additional hardware - the results are not too bad IMHO.
HTH, Chris
--
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: marcelor@acs.bu.edu (Marcelo Rodrigues)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXT --> PC??
Date: 14 Jul 1998 13:40:17 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <BcFqhjVUZSSN-pn2-dkxE5xyIjChl@localhost>
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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 04:16:34, "sarawoot" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
wrote:
> For now, I can ping between "NeXT <-> PC". I can telnet from PC to
> NeXT. I can use FTP on PC.
>
> The problem is.. I can't use telnet or FTP from NeXT to PC at all. What
> should I do? Do I need Samba or Rumba or special setup/software? Also, are
> there any ways to shared "internet connection", which is on my PC?
I assume that your PC is running Windows 95/98, then the
problem
is that you only have the client side of those apps.
Windows NT
include the servers as well. You can probably find the
servers you
need from the big Win sites. Samba allows you to mount a
NeXT
drive from the Win machine. Rumba allows you to do
opposite.
As for sharing the internet connection you need what is
called
IP-Masquerading ( the Linux name for it) or IP-Aliasing
( FreeBSD )
running on the machine that you intend to dial out from,
unfortumately
I don't think there is a NeXT nor a Windows version of
these ( I know
there is an OS/2 version though ...) I would be glad to
hear otherwise.
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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In <6of9f8$f79$3@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> Try to automate it (farily simple with wget and cron) and run it early
> in the morning, when the Americans are still asleep. Bandwith is pretty
> good at that time (I can tell, I'm on the other side of the pond).
I've got it set for 9am, but maybe I ought to try 5 or 6
> If that fails, I'll be very happy to set up an automated mechanism that
> pushes data onto peak, or any other site you like. Please drop me a line
> if that is the case.
Actually if there was some way to make sure that whatever is in the "last 2
weeks" folder on peanuts was also in the
http://www.peak.org/next/new_arrivals/ folder, that would be helpful.
TjL
--
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in PEAK's FTP site. Please make sure to all questions/comments/etc
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and do not know how much time I will have then (job & real life).
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT --> PC??
Date: 14 Jul 1998 15:41:22 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <6ofu72$tr$1@news.spacelab.net>
References: <6oemc3$1kq4$1@news.missouri.edu>
"sarawoot" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu> wrote:
[ ...network setup of a NeXT and a Win98 PC... ]
> The problem is.. I can't use telnet or FTP from NeXT to PC at all. What
>should I do? Do I need Samba or Rumba or special setup/software?
Win 98 doesn't come with a ftpd or a telnetd. If you want that level of
functionality on a Microsoft box, you'd be better off with Win NT Server and
"Simple TCP/IP services" installed. Alternatively, I believe there's a ftpd
available for Win 95 that might work on Win 98.
Samba lets you do SMB networking (aka "Network Neighborhood"), which lets you
export Unix directories ala NFS, and gives you a text-based client access to
Windows filesystems (somewhat like 'rcp'). Rumba lets you mount SMB
filesystems like NFS.
> Also, are there any ways to shared "internet connection", which is on my
> PC?
Yes, but Windows 98 is the wrong system to use as a network gateway and/or IP
proxy server. Without knowing your requirements, it's tough to give advice.
For example, if you didn't need to run Win 98, I'd put Linux on your PC
instead, since it'd do everything you've asked for.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: wbynum@cs.tamu.edu (Wade Eric Bynum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT --> PC??
Date: 14 Jul 1998 21:19:48 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M Computer Science Department, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <6ogi1k$2un$1@news.tamu.edu>
References: <6oemc3$1kq4$1@news.missouri.edu> <6ofu72$tr$1@news.spacelab.net>
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In article <6ofu72$tr$1@news.spacelab.net>,
Charles W. Swiger <chuck@codefab.com> wrote:
>
>> Also, are there any ways to shared "internet connection", which is on my
>> PC?
>
>Yes, but Windows 98 is the wrong system to use as a network gateway and/or IP
>proxy server. Without knowing your requirements, it's tough to give advice.
>For example, if you didn't need to run Win 98, I'd put Linux on your PC
>instead, since it'd do everything you've asked for.
>-Chuck
>
I believe this can be done under Win98 using a program
called NAT32. Visit http://willow.canberra.edu.au/~chrisc/nat32.html
for the info.
--
Kcobra
(kcobra@tam2000.tamu.edu) and (http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~kcobra/)
"I have been and always shall be your friend."
--Spock
From: Daniel Corkery <dcorkery@surf.its.bond.edu.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Questions about the NeXT Operating System
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:11:09 +1000
Organization: Bond University
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As part of my university course, i have to do some research on alternative
operating systems, specifically the NeXT OS.
i need information about the following
design criteria
memory management
process and processor management
I/O and device management
file management
networking facilities
user interface
Woudl you be able to point me to useful URLS on this topic???
Cheers, Daniel Corkery
From: "." <e-glide@N0SPAMpop.interport.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: More Sendmail troubles on black hardware
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 01:10:21 +0000
Organization: .
Message-ID: <35A95E79.2168@N0SPAMpop.interport.net>
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TjL wrote:
>
> In <6of3d3$c31$1@winter.news.erols.com> e-glide@interport.net wrote:
>
> > Jul 14 03:38:36 sinistar sendmail[284]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(sinistar): dbm map
> "Ali\
> > as0": unsafe map file /etc/sendmail/aliases
> >
> > There is no /etc/sendmail/aliases subdirectory. Should the
> > sendmail 8.8.8 binary distribution have installed one?
> > I have already reinstalled this version of sendmail.
> > Any help would be appreciated.
>
> /etc/sendmail.cf must have a line in it that looks something like this:
>
> O AliasFile=netinfo:/aliases,/etc/sendmail/aliases
>
> Either make an aliases file at /etc/sendmail/aliases (and then run
> 'newaliases' as root) or edit the sendmail.cf file to not refer to the
> aliases file there.
>
> Then restart sendmail (kill -1 or kill -HUP).
>
> Hope that helps
>
Thanks Timothy, it did indeed.
Fixed!
Much appreciated.
I don't have your correct email (please send it to me),
or I would have replied via mail.
sinistar at sinistar dot com
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ScreenScape.app for entire screen
Date: 14 Jul 1998 22:02:36 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6ohd5c$nu7@slip.net>
Hi,
Is there an application which will mirror
output monitor activity through the output
video connector? Like ScreenScape.app except
for all monitor activity, not just 600 by 480.
Thanks,
Emmett
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:57:02 GMT
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In <35A95E79.2168@N0SPAMpop.interport.net> "." wrote:
> Thanks Timothy, it did indeed.
> Fixed!
cool
> Much appreciated.
sendmail is a beast at times, I'm glad this was one of the times when the
answer was simple enough that I knew it ;-)
> I don't have your correct email (please send it to me),
> or I would have replied via mail.
nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org
(TjL)
works for sending me email :-)
However, I read the groups fairly often, so it's just as easy to just post it
rather than emailing me too
TjL
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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PEAK and Peanuts (was Re: Last release of Bibliography.app)
Date: 14 Jul 98 12:18:35
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In-reply-to: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org's message of Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:13:39 GMT
In article <TsLq1.739$RO5.2061036@news.rdc1.nj.home.com> (TjL) writes:
In <6of9f8$f79$3@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> Try to automate it (farily simple with wget and cron) and run it
> early in the morning, when the Americans are still asleep.
> Bandwith is pretty good at that time (I can tell, I'm on the
> other side of the pond).
I've got it set for 9am, but maybe I ought to try 5 or 6
Keep in mind that 9am in the states is past noon on the Continent, so
you're probably competing with heavy traffic across the Atlantic. You
might actually be better off setting it for _11pm_! (Well, if peak is
on the east coast, perhaps 2am.)
Of course, it might still be faster to post a CD-R every two weeks :-).
--
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<Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots
Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PEAK and Peanuts (was Re: Last release of Bibliography.app)
Date: 15 Jul 1998 10:12:43 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6ohvar$5jb$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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Timothy wrote:
>Actually if there was some way to make sure that whatever is in the "last 2
>weeks" folder on peanuts was also in the
>http://www.peak.org/next/new_arrivals/ folder, that would be helpful.
If I create a script that outputs a list of all 'last two weeks'
entries, will that do? You can 'ls' the new arrivals folder and
opendiff the two files. They are both sorted, so opendiff will
show the differences. You can then manually decide which files
are missing and which ones are just named differently.
I'd be happy to help.
Chris
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ScreenScape.app for entire screen
Date: 15 Jul 1998 20:00:24 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
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In <6ohd5c$nu7@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there an application which will mirror
> output monitor activity through the output
> video connector? Like ScreenScape.app except
> for all monitor activity, not just 600 by 480.
>
NO. At least no via the ND video outputs. You'd need
a video converter to convert the signal to your monitor
on the 13W3 cable to a NTSC compatible format .
(If you have to ask $$ - you can't afford it)
It was one thing I missed on the ND was fullscreen out.
I guess I have to be satisfied with it on my Indigo2 - though
it's IRIX and not NeXTStep.
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
spammers works also :)
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From: ajetha@visgen.com (Alykhan Jetha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SSL proxy server for NS3.3 or OS4.2
Date: 15 Jul 1998 22:48:17 GMT
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Folks,
I was wondering if anyone knows of a SSL capable proxy server for NS3.3? I
compiled Apache1.2.6 to do regular proxying and it works fine, but it does
not deal with HTTPS or SSL.
There has to be something outthere ....
Thanks
AJ
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SSL proxy server for NS3.3 or OS4.2
Date: 16 Jul 1998 14:17:57 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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In article <6ojbjh$q1i$1@wolf.interlynx.net> ajetha@visgen.com (Alykhan
Jetha) writes:
> I was wondering if anyone knows of a SSL capable proxy server for NS3.3?
> I compiled Apache1.2.6 to do regular proxying and it works fine, but it
> does not deal with HTTPS or SSL.
Perhaps the version of apache 1.2.6 (OS4.2 only) that I built with SSLeay
would do the trick?
http://www.peak.org/openstep/mach/apps/internet/www/
apache-SSL.1.2.6.2.m.README
apache-SSL.1.2.6.2.m.NIS.bds.tar.gz
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From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Searching german language dicts etc. for WP...
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 18:17:42 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
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Hi,
I have an older WP US (black binary) Version, which (of course) is missing the
german language support files for the spellchecker, thesaurus and hyphenation etc.!
Could somebody, who owns or have a german WP version, provide me with those
german language specific "*.de" files???
The files I'am looking for should be included in the WordPerfect.app appwrapper,
normally in a directory structure like "WordPerfect.app/wpfiles/*.de" !!!
BTW, does somebody know if the language specific files from a DOS WP 5.x
would also fit for the NeXTstep versions???
Thanks in advance
Valentino
--
Valentino Kyriakides
Email: vkyr@lavielle.com (no NeXTmail here)
From: John Kheit <jkheit@mediaone.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP, ACK, Quantrix Export
Date: 16 Jul 1998 22:33:07 GMT
Organization: UCO & Associates, NH, USA
Message-ID: <6olv33$5l3$1@lwnws01.ne.highway1.com>
If I remember correctly, Improv used to be able to export to wk1, or wk2
format. I thought that Quantrix could do the same. I was hoping at the
least I could export quantrix files to .imx in Improv, and then move from
Improv to wk1 or wk3.
Does anyone know of a way to export more than the mere ascii values from
Quantrix?
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; self expressed...
______________________________________________________________________
UCO & A S S O C I A T E S ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK
mailto:jkheit@mediaone.net
http://people.ne.mediaone.net/jkheit
You're dangerous because you're honest...
From: Jeffrey Meltzer <meltzer@villagenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Netscape
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 18:41:41 -0400
Organization: VillageNet
Message-ID: <Pine.SO4.4.00.9807161841120.23741-100000@www>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
garbage.
Is there a Netscape (or Mosiac) out there for 3.3?
---
Jeffrey Meltzer
Intelligent Computer Solutions
Network Operations Center
516-218-0700
From: Christian Jensen <cejensen@winternet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape
Date: 17 Jul 1998 00:28:25 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <6om5r9$pte$1@blackice.winternet.com>
References: <Pine.SO4.4.00.9807161841120.23741-100000@www>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Jul 1998 00:28:25 GMT
Jeffrey Meltzer <meltzer@villagenet.com> wrote:
>Is there a Netscape (or Mosiac) out there for 3.3?
>
No. However, I've heard of some folks getting Netscape running under X on
NEXTSTEP, but I'm not sure which Netscape flavor that would be (BSD?).
Look for OmniWeb 2.7b3 on the Peak or Peanuts ftp sites.
--Chris
**************************
Chris Jensen
cejensen@winternet.com
MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger."
--Mark Twain
From: "Gateway Valued Customer" <dblagas@mail.tds.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: business
Date: 17 Jul 1998 01:04:07 GMT
Organization: TDSNET Internet Services(http://www.tds.net)
Message-ID: <01bdb11e$0d574400$110601cf@oemcomputer>
I would like more information on how to get a new vehicle for a $100.00 p/
month.
from ,
dblagas
From: "Gateway Valued Customer" <dblagas@mail.tds.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <01bdb11e$0d574400$110601cf@oemcomputer>
Control: cancel <01bdb11e$0d574400$110601cf@oemcomputer>
Date: 17 Jul 1998 01:29:10 GMT
Organization: TDSNET Internet Services(http://www.tds.net)
Message-ID: <01bdb121$8de871e0$110601cf@oemcomputer>
From: "Gateway Valued Customer" <dblagas@mail.tds.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <01bdb11e$0d574400$110601cf@oemcomputer>
Control: cancel <01bdb11e$0d574400$110601cf@oemcomputer>
Date: 17 Jul 1998 01:29:44 GMT
Organization: TDSNET Internet Services(http://www.tds.net)
Message-ID: <01bdb121$a24e00a0$110601cf@oemcomputer>
From: root@dabba.atomchamber.bc.ca (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mail.app with remote sendmail server... any solutions?
Date: 17 Jul 1998 09:50:12 GMT
Organization: ICAN.Net Customer
Message-ID: <6on6ok$n07$1@news2.tor.accglobal.net>
I get to the net by running through a masquerading linux box. It gets the
ip address and the hostname of the line. I dont really wanna have to
change the local hostname everytime i send mail... anyone have any ideas
of how i can use mail.app with a remote smtp server?
From: Christian Metzger <metzger@odi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: JavaPlan
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:37:18 +0200
Organization: Object Design, Inc.
Message-ID: <35AF295E.AE7B5930@odi.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello everybody,
I have seen a couple of Javaplan demos for download and have tried out
the version 3.03 for Openstep. unformtunately the LighthouseDesign
homepage isn't available since months. I know they were acquired by SUN
but there used to be some information about pricing and trial licenses.
here's my question:
Does anybody know if JavaPlan for OS is still being developed?
Does anybody know what it costs or whether there is a chance to get a 30
day full working trial?
I appreciate an answer very much!
Christian Metzger
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: JavaPlan
Date: 17 Jul 1998 10:38:19 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6oo26b$7rg@slip.net>
References: <35AF295E.AE7B5930@odi.com>
Christian Metzger <metzger@odi.com> wrote:
>
>Does anybody know if JavaPlan for OS is still being developed?
Check out :
http://www.kimble.co.uk/nextstep/nextjava.html
ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/NeXT
Emmett
From: Nicholas Floersch <zoontf@sover.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT --> PC??
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:12:01 -0400
Organization: NLWD
Message-ID: <35B09F20.11C051BC@sover.net>
References: <6oemc3$1kq4$1@news.missouri.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jul 1998 01:10:03 GMT
To: sarawoot <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
sarawoot wrote:
> Hi NeXT Geeks,
> I just connect my NeXT and PC. The PC use ethernet card w/ RJ45 and
> connected to the hub. So does NeXT. The PC is running Win98 and NeXT's
> running OPENSTEP4.2. I set the IP address and host name for both machines.
>
> For now, I can ping between "NeXT <-> PC". I can telnet from PC to
> NeXT. I can use FTP on PC.
>
> The problem is.. I can't use telnet or FTP from NeXT to PC at all. What
> should I do? Do I need Samba or Rumba or special setup/software? Also, are
> there any ways to shared "internet connection", which is on my PC?
>
> Any comments, recommend, suggestion or observations are greatly welcome.
> Thank you very much in advanced.
>
> Your Sincerely,
> Sarawoot Chittratanawat
Everyone has been correct about the TelnetD and FtpD servers not being part of
Win98... but you can use the internet over your Win9X pc... look for Windows
software called winproxy. If you dial into net and then run this software on
your PC, assuming all TCP/IP setup is correct both machines, you should be able
to tell your Web browser (like OmniWeb) the address of your PC as a Web Proxy
server and then surf the next. Naturally the more complex and flexible solution
of IP aliasing or masquerading is superior to this solution, but as already
stated, it doesn't seem to be supported by either system.
Good luck. And check out my home page in a few weeks for more information on
using more than one OS, on the same system and on networks.
Nicholas Floersch
zoontf@sover.net
http://www.sover.net/~bfloer/zoontf.html <---- not currently operational
From: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: RealAudio - any progress?
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:38:54 -0400
Organization: Michigan State University
Sender: blazek@entropy6
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.980718093510.6244A-100000@entropy6>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hello,
some time ago I read in this group that RealAudio for NeXTstep is
unavailable because of the proprietary and non-public communication format
RA uses.
Is there any progress possible?
Thanks, Rudy
---
Rudolf Blazek blazek@stt.msu.edu
Michigan State University (NeXTmail, Sun, MIME compatible)
Statistics and Probability http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek
From: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXhosting between RhapsodyDR2+ and Openstep4.2 Mach?
Date: 18 Jul 1998 14:49:27 GMT
Organization: IDT (Best News In The World)
Message-ID: <6oqcln$iak@nnrp3.farm.idt.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Has anyone NXhost between Rhapsody and Openstep4.2? I want to move to
Rhapsody, but there are some programs that run on NS3.3 and OS4.2 that I
don't really want to part with. This maybe a temp. solution. Thanks in
advance.
--
/=====================================/
Jay Lee
echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
(NeXTMail,SUN,MIME)
/=====================================/
Message-ID: <35B0A597.5977@his.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:39:43 +0000
From: Royce Priem <priem@his.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: RenderManager
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Organization: Heller Information Services
Hey -
I noticed that NS 3.3 has a demo called RenderManager. Does this allow
me to use more than one NeXT to render images? If so, how do I set it
up to use it?
Thanks in advance...
Royce
Message-ID: <35B0A44D.3989@his.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:34:13 +0000
From: Royce Priem <priem@his.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: solidThinking License
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Organization: Heller Information Services
Hello all -
Does anyone have a license for solidThinking they would like to sell?
Gracias...
Royce
Message-ID: <35B0A4DE.6CD5@his.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:36:38 +0000
From: Royce Priem <priem@his.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
CC: comp.sys.next.hardware, comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: RenderManager
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Organization: Heller Information Services
Hey -
I noticed that NS 3.3 has a demo called RenderManager. Does this allow
me to use more than one NeXT to render images? If so, how do I set it
up to use it?
Thanks in advance...
Royce
From: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: solidThinking License
Date: 18 Jul 1998 18:58:49 GMT
Organization: IDT (Best News In The World)
Message-ID: <6oqr99$mgh@nnrp3.farm.idt.net>
References: <35B0A44D.3989@his.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: priem@his.com
In <35B0A44D.3989@his.com> Royce Priem wrote:
> Hello all -
>
>
> Does anyone have a license for solidThinking they would like to sell?
>
> Gracias...
>
>
> Royce
>
Hey Royce,
I think Gestel is still selling solidThinking2.6. Great Program by the way.
Try http://www.gestel.com to get more information.
--
/=====================================/
Jay Lee
echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
(NeXTMail,SUN,MIME)
/=====================================/
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXhosting between RhapsodyDR2+ and Openstep4.2 Mach?
Date: 18 Jul 1998 13:00:50 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6oquti$nso@slip.net>
References: <6oqcln$iak@nnrp3.farm.idt.net>
I've read in this newsgroup that one can NXhost to RhapsodyDR2
from OS4.2 - but not from NS 3.x.
In article <6oqcln$iak@nnrp3.farm.idt.net>,
<echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM> wrote:
>
>Has anyone NXhost between Rhapsody and Openstep4.2? I want to move to
>Rhapsody, but there are some programs that run on NS3.3 and OS4.2 that I
>don't really want to part with. This maybe a temp. solution. Thanks in
>advance.
>
>
From: droleary@subsume.com (Doc O'Leary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXhosting between RhapsodyDR2+ and Openstep4.2 Mach?
Date: 18 Jul 1998 21:48:10 GMT
Organization: Subsume Technologies, Inc.
Message-ID: <6or56q$c5j$1@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
References: <6oqcln$iak@nnrp3.farm.idt.net> <6oquti$nso@slip.net>
On 18 Jul 1998 13:00:50 -0700, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote:
>I've read in this newsgroup that one can NXhost to RhapsodyDR2
>from OS4.2 - but not from NS 3.x.
You can, however, run the 3.3 apps on the 4.2 box (thanks to the
compatibility libs) and then NXHost them over to the Rhapsody box.
This doesn't appear to work with the Yellow Box, even though it
used to with OpenStep for NT.
I'm going to miss NXHosting. There's still time to reconsider, Apple . . .
--
Copyright 1998 by Doc O'Leary.
Author of the wildly unsuccessful "DOS and Windows for People Who
Still Have a Clue"
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <26220900216033@digifix.com>
Date: 19 Jul 1998 03:48:46 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <17553900820823@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: zakk@hmmm.colo.erols.net (NARF!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: co-Xist still around?
Date: 19 Jul 1998 06:22:42 GMT
Organization: RCN Internet
Message-ID: <slrn6r342e.ksf.zakk@hmmm.colo.erols.net>
I recently aquired a Turbo Color station, and am in the process of looking
for an Xserver for it. The demo of co-Xist does everything I want,
but is limited to 30 minutes per session. I tried mailing the info
address to get pricing info, but the mail bounced.
Anyone know if this product is still for sale, and who I need to contact
to buy it?
TIA.
-=Zakk
P.S. The reason I'm looking for an Xserver is so I can display a
color-xterm/rxvt to the NeXT box and use it as an Xterminal.
If I could find a terminal-like app that supported ANSI colors,
I'd be just as happy .
(I use slrn/mutt on a remote machine, with color turned on,
and would like to be able to see the colors :) )
From: trail@ix.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: co-Xist still around?
Date: 19 Jul 1998 12:57:08 GMT
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On 07/19/98, NARF! wrote:
>
>
>I recently aquired a Turbo Color station, and am in the process of
looking
>for an Xserver for it. The demo of co-Xist does everything I want,
>but is limited to 30 minutes per session. I tried mailing the info
>address to get pricing info, but the mail bounced.
>Anyone know if this product is still for sale, and who I need to
contact
>to buy it?
>
co-Xist was discontinued by Pencom; I believe they sold the code to
Intuitiv, who produce CubX - another Xserver for NeXTstep. Demos for
it are available on the archives. You might also look into XNeXT,
which is on the Peanuts archives - its a shareware Xserver.
Regards,
Jeff
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
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Subject: Re: co-Xist still around?
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 16:50:18 GMT
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In article <slrn6r342e.ksf.zakk@hmmm.colo.erols.net>
zakk@hmmm.colo.erols.net (NARF!) writes:
> P.S. The reason I'm looking for an Xserver is so I can display a
> color-xterm/rxvt to the NeXT box and use it as an Xterminal.
> If I could find a terminal-like app that supported ANSI colors,
> I'd be just as happy .
> (I use slrn/mutt on a remote machine, with color turned on,
> and would like to be able to see the colors :) )
Have you had a look at Stuart.app? It is a terminal app for NS and it is
way cool, but I don't know what ANSI colors are, so I can't tell you. It
might be worth trying, esp. since it is shareware, as far as I remember.
An alternative might be Xnext.app, another X11 implementation. You find it
on the archives, it is reasonably cheap, and you can run it in demo mode
untill you are fed up with the "Buy me now" panel ;-)
What is slrn/mutt anyway???
Good luck!
Helmut
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From: haller@nowhere.romulus.uwaterloo.ca (Kirk Haller)
Subject: Re: co-Xist still around?
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In article <slrn6r57qv.vll.zakk@hmmm.colo.erols.net> zakk@hmmm.colo.erols.net
(NARF!) writes:
zakk>
zakk> I also looked at CubX, which almost works, except not all
zakk> the keys work (???) like 'e' becomes 'enter' and half of the
zakk> letter keys don't work etc.
This is a problem the demonstration version of CubX has with the
the ADB keyboard layout. You can write to CubX and they will give
you a patch to fix the problem. I had the same difficulty, but after
receiving the patch I was quite happy with CubX and purchased it.
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From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: JavaPlan
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:35:26 +0200
Organization: IBM HD MicroCode
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Christian Metzger wrote:
> Hello,
>
> maybe this is a misunderstanding. But I wanted to know if Lighthouse'
> ...
Wrong group?What has Lighthouse to do with NeXT-Step? As time goes by....
Henry
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Wrong group?What has Lighthouse to do with NeXT-Step? As time goes by....
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From: "Onramp" <jspears@weston.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteUp (for Windows)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:02:32 -0500
Organization: OnRamp, http://www.onramp.net/
Message-ID: <6p0ma6$6ec$1@news.onramp.net>
I have a number of WriteUp files. Is there are version of WriteUp for
Windows. Is there a convertor?
Any other ideas?
Thanks
Wes
From: Pascal Bourguignon <pbourgui@afaa.asso.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: JavaPlan
Date: 21 Jul 1998 03:14:43 GMT
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References: <35AF295E.AE7B5930@odi.com> <6oo26b$7rg@slip.net> <35B2F6F9.DCF539AF@odi.com> <35B3479E.CA731024@de.ibm.com>
Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> wrote:
>
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>Christian Metzger wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> maybe this is a misunderstanding. But I wanted to know if Lighthouse'
>> ...
>
>Wrong group?What has Lighthouse to do with NeXT-Step? As time goes by....
>
>
>Henry
Funny Henry, but hardly helpful...
Last time I asked, I got this answer (sorry, I don't rember from who):
However, Andre Lalonde <tralala@Mlink.NET> does have the ability to sell
you Lighthouse's NeXTStep app licenses (commercial or academic), and I
believe he will soon have web pages about the apps (since finding them on
www.lighthouse.com is damnear impossible).
__Pascal Bourguignon__
From: Christian Metzger <metzger@odi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: JavaPlan
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:34:56 +0200
Organization: Object Design, Inc.
Message-ID: <35B444A0.4E6D9C0C@odi.com>
References: <35AF295E.AE7B5930@odi.com> <6oo26b$7rg@slip.net> <35B2F6F9.DCF539AF@odi.com> <35B3479E.CA731024@de.ibm.com> <6p1133$6j$1@news.imaginet.fr> <35B42B89.2DA6FDC6@de.ibm.com>
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> Well, don't take it too serious. But what do You expect half a year
> after Lighthouse quitsNeXT-Development and gave out 2 user licences
> for free? In case of running any Java
> on a NeXT You will never gain support for it. Both, NeXT and Java,
> don't fit together.
> It's over. Face the facts, You have to change the OS if You really
> want to do Java. And
> believe me, You will have enough problems if You choose the right OS.
>
> But You are right, this don't answer the the initial question. I only
> wanted to trigger thinking
> about it what is the best way to achieve a solution, and if Java is
> the choice, the platform
> isn't a NeXT.
>
> Henry
Did anybody of you ever try out Javaplan? It doesn't do OOA and OOD for
Java only, it does it too for ObjectiveC. It's just a matter of which
language you choose in preferences. That's why I am interested.
But thank you for your interesting answers.
Christian
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From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: JavaPlan
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:47:53 +0200
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Pascal Bourguignon wrote:
> Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
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> >Christian Metzger wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> maybe this is a misunderstanding. But I wanted to know if Lighthouse'
> >> ...
> >
> >Wrong group?What has Lighthouse to do with NeXT-Step? As time goes by....
> >
> >
> >Henry
>
> Funny Henry, but hardly helpful...
>
> Last time I asked, I got this answer (sorry, I don't rember from who):
>
> However, Andre Lalonde <tralala@Mlink.NET> does have the ability to sell
> you Lighthouse's NeXTStep app licenses (commercial or academic), and I
> believe he will soon have web pages about the apps (since finding them on
> www.lighthouse.com is damnear impossible).
>
Well, don't take it too serious. But what do You expect half a year after
Lighthouse quitsNeXT-Development and gave out 2 user licences for free? In
case of running any Java
on a NeXT You will never gain support for it. Both, NeXT and Java, don't fit
together.
It's over. Face the facts, You have to change the OS if You really want to do
Java. And
believe me, You will have enough problems if You choose the right OS.
But You are right, this don't answer the the initial question. I only wanted
to trigger thinking
about it what is the best way to achieve a solution, and if Java is the
choice, the platform
isn't a NeXT.
Henry
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<BR>>Christian Metzger wrote:
<BR>>
<BR>>> Hello,
<BR>>>
<BR>>> maybe this is a misunderstanding. But I wanted to know if Lighthouse'
<BR>>> ...
<BR>>
<BR>>Wrong group?What has Lighthouse to do with NeXT-Step? As time goes
by....
<BR>>
<BR>>
<BR>>Henry
<P>Funny Henry, but hardly helpful...
<P>Last time I asked, I got this answer (sorry, I don't rember from who):
<P> However, Andre Lalonde <tralala@Mlink.NET> does have the ability
to sell
<BR> you Lighthouse's NeXTStep app licenses (commercial or academic),
and I
<BR> believe he will soon have web pages about the apps (since finding
them on
<BR> www.lighthouse.com is damnear impossible).
<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, don't take it too serious. But what do You expect half a year after
Lighthouse quitsNeXT-Development and gave out 2 user licences for free?
In case of running any Java
<BR>on a NeXT You will never gain support for it. Both, NeXT and Java,
don't fit together.
<BR>It's over. Face the facts, You have to change the OS if You really
want to do Java. And
<BR>believe me, You will have enough problems if You choose the right OS.
<P>But You are right, this don't answer the the initial question. I only
wanted to trigger thinking
<BR>about it what is the best way to achieve a solution, and if Java is
the choice, the platform
<BR>isn't a NeXT.
<BR>
<BR>Henry
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From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp (for Windows)
Date: 21 Jul 1998 15:30:03 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
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References: <6p0ma6$6ec$1@news.onramp.net>
"Onramp" <jspears@weston.com> writes
> Is there are version of WriteUp for Windows.
Not yet, but very soon. We beta-tested a Windows release last summer
along with the DR1 version, but did not release it. When MacOSX/Server
ships (this fall, according to Apple), we will simultaneously release
versions for OPENSTEP 4.2, OSX/Server, and Windows. In fact, we posted
a request for beta testers in c.s.n.programmer last week.
> Is there a convertor?
WriteUp ships with a filter that can turn its files into plain text.
You can also use the "Save To..." option to write a variety of file
formats that preserve the document formatting, such as RTF[D] and Word.
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From: stuart <s.d.birchall@surveying.salford.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: compiling crashes my slab?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:56:22 +0100
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Dear all,
I'm having trouble operating the compilers that came with my Nextstep 3
CD.
Yesterday I reinstalled the OS and installed the developer package as
root. The machine is a mono workstation 33 040, with 32mb ram and 2 gb
HD. The package installed successfully, but when I try compiling a
sample using cc the terminal session freezes. Then the whole machine
locks up and the disk light stays on. Dropping into the monitor and
attempting a reboot does nothing, and I have to switch off the machine.
Compiling anything generates this exact same error. However, running any
of the binaries I've downloaded from peanuts is no problem, and in every
other respect the machine functions normally. It's really frustrating as
I need to compile an application to use with my studies, and I can't do
anything.
Does anyone know what's going on?
This is the third time I've done a complete re-install to attempt to
purge this problem. I can't imagine how it could be a hardware fault, or
a lack of system resources.
Thanks for any help.
Stu
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: compiling crashes my slab?
Date: 21 Jul 1998 16:41:53 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
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References: <35B4BA26.611578B6@surveying.salford.ac.uk>
stuart (s.d.birchall@surveying.salford.ac.uk) wrote:
: [...]
: Does anyone know what's going on?
: This is the third time I've done a complete re-install to attempt to
: purge this problem. I can't imagine how it could be a hardware fault, or
: a lack of system resources.
Before you reinstall the next time - running out of other options, that
is - try to SCSI-low-level format the disk and see if has developed a/some
'bad spots'. We had such a case, but on an Intel machine, where I could
monitor the host-adapter LED. It would light up and then - without
noticeable interruption as e.g. is with SCSI-resets stay that way until
the machine was switched off. Sounds similar, but hasn't to be so.
Once you're sure it is a bad sector, and which one (and only one or
at least very few), you can also 'reasb'-reassign them. But be carefull
in what system (dec/hex) the error-display is and what the program ('reasb')
wants!
[If bad luck did strike, you would have installed, or tried to, the
cc always 'over the same' area! Another try would be to just
rename whatever the guilty part is (cc?) to e.g. cc.bad and just
copy over that binary (and thin it if you like to ('lipo')) again
from the CD, seeing if that helps. It did for us in the case mentioned
above, to confirm that the disk developed bad spots. As it was still
under warranty, we, off course, had it replaced.]
Greetings,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Chips & Tech drivers
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 21:27:03 +0000
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Yes, www.deepspacetech.com
Brian Wotring wrote:
>
> Does anybody know if there exist any Chips and Technology drivers for
> the 65555 video chipset? I have found the 65548, but not 65555.
>
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Does anybody know if there exist any Chips and Technology drivers for
the 65555 video chipset? I have found the 65548, but not 65555.
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From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: JavaPlan
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Leigh Smith wrote:
> Ahh, Rhapsody? Not wanting to start a war, just pointing out that Apple has a
> vested interest in both the last vestiges of NeXTStep and Java. Marriage made
> in heaven, IMHO.
Well, sounds good to me, like a lot of other things stated years ago
from Steve Jobs. But at the moment I can't see any real working Java
environment under NeXT-Step. And Java is running since two years or
more. SUN defines the direction, or tries to.
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From: leigh@NOSPAMcs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith)
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Subject: Re: JavaPlan
Date: 22 Jul 1998 09:37:27 GMT
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In <35B42B89.2DA6FDC6@de.ibm.com> Henry Koplien wrote:
> > Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> But You are right, this don't answer the the initial question. I only
wanted
> to trigger thinking
> about it what is the best way to achieve a solution, and if Java is the
> choice, the platform
> isn't a NeXT.
>
Ahh, Rhapsody? Not wanting to start a war, just pointing out that Apple has a
vested interest in both the last vestiges of NeXTStep and Java. Marriage made
in heaven, IMHO.
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From: "Onramp" <jspears@weston.com>
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Subject: .fax Reader for Windows
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:22:25 -0500
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Subject: Re: Getting sound from my cdrom
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35b6f700.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 23 Jul 98 08:40:32 GMT
david614@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>
>Hi:
>
>I have a NeXTStation Turbo Mono, and have attached a Sony CDU-76S CD rom
>drive. I would like to know if it is possible to get sound from the speaker
>on the monitor from this drive, or whether I have to hang speakers outboard
>to achieve this effect.
There is a program called playcd (former play3401) which can play audio from
very few CDROM-drives through the NeXTmonitor on peanuts.
Frank Siegert should have a modified version of this for a special Sony drive
on his web-side http://www.this.net/~frank/download.html but this had not
worked for my very old SONY CDU xxx(?).
>
>By the way, having changed from a NexT Turbo Color to a mono system, I have
to
>say that I am much happier now!
For me it would be the other way round ... ;-)
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From: david614@my-dejanews.com
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Subject: Getting sound from my cdrom
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:50:00 GMT
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Hi:
I have a NeXTStation Turbo Mono, and have attached a Sony CDU-76S CD rom
drive. I would like to know if it is possible to get sound from the speaker
on the monitor from this drive, or whether I have to hang speakers outboard
to achieve this effect.
By the way, having changed from a NexT Turbo Color to a mono system, I have to
say that I am much happier now!
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From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
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Subject: Networking,ppp and netinfo
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:00:48 +0100
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Hi,
At home i have a small netinfo network consisting of two intel machines
running OpenStep 4.1. This network i set up using Simple Network Starter
and it all works like a charm. I now attached an external modem to one
of the machines that i would like to use to connect to the internet. The
modem itself works, i'm able to dial in to machines. But now i have to
set up pp and all the instructions i found so far describe setting
things up for a standalone machine. But with my netinfo network i
probably have to worry about protocol stacks, routing etc. To complicate
thing, my password for my ISP changes very minute (they use a kind
creditcard that displays a different number every minute) and the DNS is
also server assigned. Under win95/nt it all works fine but i want to
move away from that and concentrate on OpenStep. Can anyone give me some
help in setting this up (scripts, files i need to edit, conceptual
advise) so that i'm able to access the internet and the netinfo
network?
Thanks a lot,
Marcel
E-mail: volkerts@kvi.nl
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I have a large site, which is commonly known by it's logo
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http://www.webattack.com/
This is impossible, they must have shrunk my site or why could they
claim such nonsense??
Please investigate this matter, the site that
>>>Dear MooMan,
there is no need to be alarmed, we looked into this, and the solution
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Getting sound from my cdrom
Date: 23 Jul 1998 09:58:28 -0700
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References: <6p61bo$3f8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35b6f700.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
>>
>>
>>Hi:
>>
>>I have a NeXTStation Turbo Mono, and have attached a Sony CDU-76S CD rom
>>drive. I would like to know if it is possible to get sound from the speaker
>>on the monitor from this drive, or whether I have to hang speakers outboard
>>to achieve this effect.
>
>
Yeah, if you want to have audio go directly into your NeXT sound system
your best bet is to go to www.ebay.com and bid on an Apple CD 300. That
works with frank's playsony program. The CD 300 is a 1x, it's slow speed
is well suited for playing audio.
I have a NeXT CD ROM and have the audio going into an AB switch with audio
from a VCD and the CD ROM going into an applifier (with speakers).
>
>Frank Siegert should have a modified version of this for a special Sony drive
>on his web-side http://www.this.net/~frank/download.html but this had not
>worked for my very old SONY CDU xxx(?).
>
>>By the way, having changed from a NexT Turbo Color to a mono system, I have
>to say that I am much happier now!
You know you can run a color system as a mono system with a preferences
application you can get at peak, right?
Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Linux dev/ttySa and NeXTSTEP
Date: 24 Jul 1998 01:32:03 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
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Hi,
I'm taking a stab at compiling a linux app, pager.c
on NeXTStep 3.3.
It's usage is described as :
usage: pager -n <pager string> tty
* ie: pager -n 780-2539,,,24242424# /dev/ttySb
* This will page someone with the number 24242424.
....
Under NeXTSTEP what would the last argument to pager
to dial out the "b" serial port? I don't think it
is /dev/ttySb as for Linux.
Thanks,
Emmett
From: beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu (Richard Beigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tex/latex made easier
Date: 23 Jul 1998 23:11:51 GMT
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Keywords: latex tex text typesetting
(recently uploaded to ftp.peak.org:/next-ftp/next/submissions)
* T typesetting system by Richard Beigel
* freeware for NeXT users (I'll compile FAT if I figure out how)
* fully functional (not a demo)
* easy to install (Makefile included, no root permissions needed)
* beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu
* 23 July 1998
T is a user-friendly preprocessor for tex and latex. You can write
most math formulas in T the same way you would write them in informal
email to your colleagues. Compared to tex, T source documents are
easier to write, easier to read, and less error-prone. If you like
tex, but can't stand a few little things about it, then T is for you.
* Does your pinky finger ache from pressing the \ key on your black keyboard?
* Having trouble keeping \ldots and \cdots straight even though you
know which to use? Wouldn't you rather just type "..."?
* Do your math formulas break in funny places? Are you tired of fixing
them by hand? Wouldn't it be nice if tex broke "(a+b)(c+d)" after
the first ")" instead of one of the "+"s?
* Are you tired of having "2^10" typeset as "2^1 0"?
* Would you like common words like "iff" to look right in math mode?
* Maybe you'd like to get a not-equals sign by typing "<>" or a rightarrow
by typing "->"?
* Are you a little tired of telling tex that "vs." doesn't end a sentence?
(Or hadn't you noticed?) How about adding that tie after "pp."?
T handles all of these things and a whole lot more like them.
It's easy to run (no extra step involved). Just type "t file.t"
instead of "tex file.tex" or "latex file.tex".
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I originally developed T while on sabbatical at U Maryland in 1996.
Since then, 11 research articles, 2 sets of transparencies, and 1
doctoral dissertation have been written in T. Since T is what I write
in, I plan to support T until I stop publishing (without a vow).
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T takes the eX out of TeX. (Consult the TeXbook for the proper
pronunciation of this claim.)
What's T? T is a tex preprocessor that understands tokens. OK, tex
understands tokens, too, but only if they start with \.
Copyright: T is copyright (C) by Richard Beigel. The NeXTStep version
is freeware, but you may not re-distribute it or share it. Files may
be obtained only from the author or authorized download sites. T is
provided without any warranty or guarantee, whether express or
implied.
Installation: Edit the Makefile, define the environment variable
THOME, and type make.
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Token formatting defaults: The most useful feature of T is that it
understands alphabetical tokens and it lets you specify a consistent
treatment for them, possibly depending on whether the token appears in
math mode. Treatment of tokens is specified by the following T
commands:
rmlist(tok1 .. tokn): toki should always be typeset in the roman font,
even in math mode. This is useful with tokens like P and NP.
sflist(tok1 .. tokn): toki should always be typeset in the sans serif
font, even in math mode. This is useful with tokens like N and R.
mathwordlist(tok1 .. tokn): toki should always be typeset in the text
font, even in math mode. This is useful with tokens like if, or, and,
and, otherwise.
mathsymlist(tok1 .. tokn): inside math mode, toki should be replaced
by \toki. This is useful with tokens like in, exists, and forall.
mathvarlist(tok1 .. tokn): toki should always be typeset in math mode.
This is useful with tokens like x, y, z, m, and n.
A T file may contain any number of rmlists, sflists, mathwordlists,
mathsymlists, and mathvarlists.
Warning: no token may occur more than once as an argument to rmlist,
sflist, mathwordlist, mathsymlist, or mathvarlist.
Overriding: to override the behavior specified by any of the commands
above, simply precede the token by \bf, \rm, \sf, \em, \it, or \mathit.
Format of a T file:
token formatting defaults (rmlist, sflist, etc.)
tex-like (or latex or latex2e) commands to be preprocessed by T
Usage: "t file.t". Make sure that tnichal.sty is somewhere in your
tex path. The environment variable $THOME should point to the
directory containing tnichal.m4. If $THOME is undefined, then T looks
for tnichal.m4 in ~/t. Make sure that t, pret, righttex, and the
standard unix programs sh and m4 are somewhere in your $PATH.
Compatible with latex, tex, and latex2e: T will preprocess your file,
produce a tex file, and then figure out whether to run latex, tex, or
latex2e on it.
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Other Features:
3 dots: To get 3 dots, always type "...". T will lower them or center
them according to context. Examples: $1,...,10$; $1 + ... + 10$.
Subscripts and superscripts: numerical and alphabetical subscripts
and superscripts are allowed. Examples $x_1, ..., x_10$;
$2^10 + 2^10 = 2^11$.
Shortcuts: in math mode, <=, >=, <>, ->, and ~ are expanded to \leq,
\geq, \neq, \rightarrow, and \sim respectively.
Italics: T will automatically italicize "i.e." and "e.g."
Line breaks: T prefers to break lines at high-precedence math operators,
rather than low-precedence operators. T also prefers to break outside
of parentheses, rather than inside them. The penalty for breaking
at a low-precedence operator like + is
\binoppenalty + depth * \depthpenalty,
where depth is the depth of parenthesis nesting.
The penalty for breaking at a medium-precedence operator like \circ is
\binoppenalty + 100 + depth * \depthpenalty.
The penalty for breaking at a high-precedence operator like \cdot is
\binoppenalty + 200 + depth * \depthpenalty.
The default value for \depthpenalty is 1000. The default value for
\binoppenalty is given in the TeXbook.
T will also avoid line breaks after certain abbreviations, such as
Mr., vs., and pp.
End of sentence: With a few exceptions, T ends a sentence at a period
if the *next* word starts with a capital letter. T will not end
a sentence at certain abbreviations, such as Mr., vs., and pp.
Avoiding T processing: to avoid having T process part of your document,
use tex's \input statement, or latex's \include statement.
****************************************************************
Limitations: If you use multiple files, only the top-level file is
processed by T.
Problems: T only works with some versions of m4. If you have two m4's
on your system, you may need to change your path to use the other one.
Common errors:
inputting tnichal.sty
declaring a token twice in different ways
declaring a token twice the same way
Bugs: Please report to beigel@eecs.uic.edu (Richard Beigel).
1. With latex2e, T does not work with 2.09 compatability mode at all.
Either convert to latex2e (this is often as simple as changing
\documentstyle to \documentclass) or use the old latex209.
2. With latex209, T does not handle \begin{array}{...@{...-...}}
properly, so avoid negative hskips in array's formatting argument.
You can use \! instead. However, I recommend converting to latex2e,
which does not have this problem.
3. T may not handle $-n$ correctly. Try ${-n}$ instead.
4. T makes (, ), +, and - active in order to break lines sensibly in
math mode. If you use (), +, or - to delimit parameters in your own
macros, T will react very badly. I have tried to handle all latex209
and latex2e builtins, e.g., \cline and {picture}. Please let me know
if I missed any.
5. Ditto for parameters to picture environments.
6. verbatim and verbatim* are not supported. Use \verb instead.
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Files: T, pret, righttex, tnichal.m4, tnichal.sty, tnichal.doc
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From: "Hans-Jörg Fischer" <fischer@zkm.de>
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Subject: Roadmap for OpenStep?
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:49:30 +0200
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Hi!
Recently, I asked my NeXTstep distributor around the corner where
OpenStep is heading to at the moment, especially concerning the PC
support and API support under WinNT. Well, he was not able to tell me.
Since I was not able to find anything on the Apple Server as well the
FAQ page was broken), I would like to ask here: anyone know of some sort
of roadmap?
Thanks!
Greetings
Joerg
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From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu>
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Subject: Kerberos for NS 3.3 (Intel)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:28:36 -0700
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Is there a kerberos distribution for Intel NS3.3? If not, is there source
code available that can be compiled? Thanks.
Robert
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This is where OpenStep as a technology is headed, and already
gone:
http://developer.apple.com/macosx/server/
-- John
---------------
>
> Hi!
>
> Recently, I asked my NeXTstep distributor around the corner where
> OpenStep is heading to at the moment, especially concerning the PC
> support and API support under WinNT. Well, he was not able to tell me.
> Since I was not able to find anything on the Apple Server as well the
> FAQ page was broken), I would like to ask here: anyone know of some sort
> of roadmap?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greetings
>
> Joerg
From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Linux dev/ttySa and NeXTSTEP
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:47:20 +0000
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If you look in /dev
you shoud see various tty* and cu*; ignore the psuedo terminals ttyp*.
Look in the man pages, and it should tell you which /dev/tty* and
/dev/cu* does what, from memory
/dev/ttya - connection for external terminal serial port a (COM1)
/dev/ttyb - ditto serial port b (COM2)
/dev/ttyc - ditto port c (COM3)
/dev/ttyd - ditto port d (COM4)
/dev/cua - connection for modem (call up)
...
Emmett McLean wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm taking a stab at compiling a linux app, pager.c
> on NeXTStep 3.3.
>
> It's usage is described as :
>
> usage: pager -n <pager string> tty
> * ie: pager -n 780-2539,,,24242424# /dev/ttySb
> * This will page someone with the number 24242424.
>
> ....
>
> Under NeXTSTEP what would the last argument to pager
> to dial out the "b" serial port? I don't think it
> is /dev/ttySb as for Linux.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Emmett
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Complaint Registration and analysis software:
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The program can be used in any type of organsiation, because its
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seen as a tool that can be
used for the entire process of complaint control in an organisation.
to download please to go http://www.torontoweb.ca/software.htm
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:41:37 +0100
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From: rveloso@mail.telepac.pt (Ricardo V. Oliveira)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: News Reader
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:46:38 GMT
Message-ID: <35bd1f67.5342474@news.telepac.pt>
Does anyone know about some news reader software (like AGENT) that
supports multi-posting (I'm not talking about cross-posting , because
sometimes it doesn't work ) . I'm talking about a program which you
can give a list with newsgroups and post the same message to all of
them .
If anyone can help me , plz reply as soon as possible to my e-mail .
Thanks in advance .
From: mlchan@ews.uiuc.edu (chan moshen l)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.objective-c
Subject: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP
Date: 29 Jul 1998 00:10:43 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Message-ID: <6plpa3$a36$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
I might be porting an application written for NextStep to run
on a windows box. Currently, the plan is to port it to OPENSTEP
so it may run under YellowBox for for windows.
Several difficulties in this matter.
1. I have never developed on NextStep
2. I have never developed using the OPENSTEP APIs
3. I currently do not know the Objective-C superset of C
Besides for these hurdles, can someone point me in the right direction
on starting this port? I've heard there are some tools put out by
NEXT to help with this. Where can I get them?
The application is not too large, and I should have plenty of time. I should
be able to get all documentation on NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP APIs. The makefile
looks like it was generated by NeXT Project Builder. It has these lines
which may be relavent to how the application was made:
MAKEFILEDIR = /NextDeveloper/Makefiles/app
MAKEFILE = app.make
LIBS = -lMedia_s -lNeXT_s
-include Makefile.preamble
include $(MAKEFILEDIR)/$(MAKEFILE)
-include Makefile.postamble
-include Makefile.dependencies
If anyone could point me in the right direction on getting started,
and what info/hurdles I should know about - it would be greatly appreciated!
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Font conversion to Windows NT??
Date: 29 Jul 1998 03:05:47 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <6pm3ib$ni8$1@dropit.pgh.net>
I have a number of fonts I have accumulated over the years that I
would like to make work on my Windows NT box. This does not seem to
be a straightforward process. NT doesn't seem to know what to do
with an 'afm' file. Is there some sort of font conversion utility I
can use?
-----
Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 724-941-6883
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
From: someguy@netcom.ca (Justin McKillican)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: installing omniweb from DR2 CD
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:43:29 -0400
Organization: NETCOM Canada
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OK.. i'm having trouble installing OmniWeb. i gunziped them all, and tar
-xf them all and got all the omni files in my folder (frameworks and
all). only prob is that i can't find a way to install it (i did this
about 3 months ago shortly after DR2 came out, but i sorta forgot). I
thought there was a installer.sh, but unless i'm just blind or tired there
was none.
please help,
justin
From: Mark Trombino <mtrombin@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: REQ: Please send me modem inits
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 22:14:33 +0000
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(Sorry for the crosspost, but I really don't know where something like this belongs)
Hi folks,
I'm working on a new version of LogOn (a front end for PPP) and I would like
to include modem
initialization strings for as many modems as I can get my hands on. If you
can find the time, could you please email me the modem you use
and the initialization string you use for it?
Thanks!
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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Subject: Re: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP
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Well, the OPENSTEP APIs are not all the same as the Yellow
Box APIs, so your best bet is to look on the MacOS X Server
site from Apple for information on developing for Yellow
Box. You'll also need to get your hands on MacOS X Server
so you can do your developing, as at this time you won't
be able to develop for Yellow Box on OPENSTEP (at least to
my knowledge).
-- John
-------------------
chan moshen l wrote:
>
> I might be porting an application written for NextStep to run
> on a windows box. Currently, the plan is to port it to OPENSTEP
> so it may run under YellowBox for for windows.
>
> Several difficulties in this matter.
> 1. I have never developed on NextStep
> 2. I have never developed using the OPENSTEP APIs
> 3. I currently do not know the Objective-C superset of C
>
> Besides for these hurdles, can someone point me in the right direction
> on starting this port? I've heard there are some tools put out by
> NEXT to help with this. Where can I get them?
>
> The application is not too large, and I should have plenty of time. I should
> be able to get all documentation on NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP APIs. The makefile
> looks like it was generated by NeXT Project Builder. It has these lines
> which may be relavent to how the application was made:
>
> MAKEFILEDIR = /NextDeveloper/Makefiles/app
> MAKEFILE = app.make
> LIBS = -lMedia_s -lNeXT_s
> -include Makefile.preamble
> include $(MAKEFILEDIR)/$(MAKEFILE)
> -include Makefile.postamble
> -include Makefile.dependencies
>
> If anyone could point me in the right direction on getting started,
> and what info/hurdles I should know about - it would be greatly appreciated!
> --
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From: a lt e n ber@nashville.com (Lee Alte nb erg)
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Subject: Mathematica: remote kernel connection problems
Date: 29 Jul 1998 18:16:41 GMT
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I am trying to run Mathematica 2.2 with a front end on NEXTSTEP 3.3/040 and a
kernel over the Internet. When I try using the Mathlink connection (which is
what you are supposed to do for Mathematica 2.2 or higher), can never get it
to work. My NEXTSTEP console gives an error:
LinkConnect::linkc:
LinkObject[2913@myhost, 1, 1] is dead; attempt to connect failed.
This occurs with the Mathematica 2.2 kernel on either NEXTSTEP3.3/Intel, AIX
or SunOS.
I've also tried MathTalk. This works with the Mathematica 2.2 kernel on
NS3.3/I. But on AIX, I got the kernel to launch, and it evaluates input,
but the return is always a blank cell.
My Internet connection is through PPP2.3.
Any clues as to the problem would be greatly appreciated.
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From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] Postscript manipulation tools for YB for NT?
Date: 29 Jul 1998 22:53:16 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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ajmas@my-dejanews.com writes:
>Could someone tell me whether there are any tools for manipulating
>postscript files for Yellow Box for NT? What I am wanting to do is
>take a postscript file and rotate its contents 90 degrees and save
>it, so I don't need to turn my head 90 degrees every time I want to
>see it ;-)
You don't really need to rotate the Postscript, the view just needs
to know that it's a landscape document. Assuming the PS-file is
DSC conformant (AppKit generated ones are), just insert:
%%Orientation: Landscape
somewhere before the first
%%EndComments
Marcel
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From: jmeacham@rosetta-stone.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: The Saga of CD-R audio on Black NeXT continues...
Date: 30 Jul 1998 02:02:39 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College
Message-ID: <6pok7v$5rb$1@calvin.skidmore.edu>
So, here's the background, for viewers new to the saga:
About three weeks ago, I bought an HP 6020 Surestore CD-R unit, since
all of the software I had run into for the NeXT said it was supported
and I found one for a good price ($200). My main reason for buying it
was to make audio CDs for my friends. My secondary reason was to make
backups for my NeXT TurboColor Station in case my QIC tapedrive died.
So, I first tried to use it for backup. I used a combination of
AerePerennius.app and mkisofs, and backed up all my changing files.
Wrote a script to find all my files that were changes since X date and
compressed them, and added them to the file system. I then wrote the
disk. No problem at all--I was able to access all the data on the
CDROM. I thought "hey, this is easy".
Now for the audio. I figured I'd try CDDesigner.app first, since it
looked like there weren't any restrictions in the demo mode on audio
CDs. Well, I added a bunch of tracks that I had recorded to the disk
and checked (they were all playable on the hard disk). They were all
in snd format. Well, the had CD recorded tracks of the correct
length, and several of them had a second or two of music before fading
into a fuzz of white noise, but the CD was mostly garbage.
So, tactic two...I tried to do the same with AerePerrenius. This time
I didn't even get playable tracks. So I thought it might be something
in the sound format. I got the newest version of 'sox', and converted
all the tracks into cdr format, the native format cd audio. This
time, it wrote the disk, with the appropriate tracks, but this time it
had exactly the same sort of short music lead in, white noise thing
that I had had with CDDesigner. I began to think maybe there was
something wrong with the translation software.
So I tried converting the *.cdr files I had on the hard drive back
into *snd files. The conversion worked, but guess what...it was a
couple seconds of music and then white noise...just like on the CD.
So I have concluded that probably both CDDesigner and AerePerennius
use sox or something based on sox to convert their files from snd to
cdr, and there is something wrong with that algorithm.
The questions are this, then: Has anyone else had this experience,
problems using sox translating from NeXT snd to cdr? Do CDDesigner
and AerePerennius use sox? And is there another way of translating
snd to cdr on the next? I tried getting and compiling the most recent
version of sox, and that gives me the same problems. Finally, is
there any other way of doing this that I'm not getting. If I can't
figure this out, I have a very expensive redundant backup system.
Also, I have an old Mac IIsi sitting around...Does anyone know of
cheap or free CD Audio mastering software for 68k macs?
Peace all,
James
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From: yjwu@unix.cie.rpi.edu (Yeun-Jung Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Seek "SciPlot.app" for NEXTSTEP 3.3/OPENSTEP 4.1 (m68k and Intel).
Date: 30 Jul 1998 02:14:19 GMT
Organization: CIE, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Message-ID: <6poktr$p3a$1@newsfeeds.rpi.edu>
References: <6pok7v$5rb$1@calvin.skidmore.edu>
Hello:
Long time ago I used an X-Y plotting application called SciPlot.app on
NeXT OS 2.2. I just wonder whether there exists updated version which
can be run on Intel machine? OPENSTEP 4.1? Searching through peanuts
ftp site wasn't very successful so I appreciate net wisdom to shed
some light on my question. Thank you in advanced!
Y.-J. Wu
Division of General Education
National Taiwan Ocean University
Keelung, Taiwan
Visiting RPI, Troy, New York.
From: "cliff leong" <leong@NOSPAMhome.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <6pok7v$5rb$1@calvin.skidmore.edu>
Subject: Re: The Saga of CD-R audio on Black NeXT continues...
Message-ID: <lJTv1.1584$LG5.8194313@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 05:42:41 GMT
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>Also, I have an old Mac IIsi sitting around...Does anyone know of
>cheap or free CD Audio mastering software for 68k macs?
I use Toast on an old Centris 650 68k mac running MacOS 8.1. To copy the
audio tracks though, I have to boot with MacOS 7.6. As far as audio
burning, sometimes it works, sometimes I make CD frisbees. Scsi copy, ISO,
hybrid and HFS burns are fine though.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] Postscript manipulation tools for YB for NT?
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:11:22 GMT
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Could someone tell me whether there are any tools for manipulating
postscript files for Yellow Box for NT? What I am wanting to do is
take a postscript file and rotate its contents 90 degrees and save
it, so I don't need to turn my head 90 degrees every time I want to
see it ;-)
Thanks for any help
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From: "Michael A. Thompson" <mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X for NeXT
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:27:22 -0500
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I have been trying to get mouseX running on my NeXT OS3.3. The screen
goes black when I run the server from Xfe (ver. 2.5) then nothing. The
computer still responds to mouse and keyboard commands and I can hear
the disk spinning. I did set the /dev/vid0 as well. Any Ideas? or is
there another free X server for the NeXT?
Thanks,
Michael
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From: mlchan@ews.uiuc.edu (chan moshen l)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP
Date: 30 Jul 1998 17:40:39 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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Thanks for all the replies everyone. I'm sure I'll be back soon
as initial troubles crop up. Thanks!
: > -------------------
: > chan moshen l wrote:
: >>
: >> I might be porting an application written for NextStep to run
: >> on a windows box. Currently, the plan is to port it to OPENSTEP
: >> so it may run under YellowBox for for windows.
: >>
: >> Several difficulties in this matter.
: >> 1. I have never developed on NextStep
: >> 2. I have never developed using the OPENSTEP APIs
: >> 3. I currently do not know the Objective-C superset of C
: >>
: >> Besides for these hurdles, can someone point me in the right direction
: >> on starting this port? I've heard there are some tools put out by
: >> NEXT to help with this. Where can I get them?
: >>
: >> The application is not too large, and I should have plenty of time. I
: should
: >> be able to get all documentation on NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP APIs. The
: makefile
: >> looks like it was generated by NeXT Project Builder. It has these lines
: >> which may be relavent to how the application was made:
: >>
: >> MAKEFILEDIR = /NextDeveloper/Makefiles/app
: >> MAKEFILE = app.make
: >> LIBS = -lMedia_s -lNeXT_s
: >> -include Makefile.preamble
: >> include $(MAKEFILEDIR)/$(MAKEFILE)
: >> -include Makefile.postamble
: >> -include Makefile.dependencies
: >>
: >> If anyone could point me in the right direction on getting started,
: >> and what info/hurdles I should know about - it would be greatly
: appreciated!
: >> --
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From: wiley_coyote@super.genius.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP
Date: 30 Jul 1998 02:45:22 GMT
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I dont think that the APIs are changing all that much.
It may just be a matter of running a conversion script.
Then again, I am just conjecturing on what I have heard.
Later,
Wiley
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In Re: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP comp.sys.next.software
msms <msms@home.com> writes,
> Well, the OPENSTEP APIs are not all the same as the Yellow
> Box APIs, so your best bet is to look on the MacOS X Server
> site from Apple for information on developing for Yellow
> Box. You'll also need to get your hands on MacOS X Server
> so you can do your developing, as at this time you won't
> be able to develop for Yellow Box on OPENSTEP (at least to
> my knowledge).
>
> -- John
>
> -------------------
> chan moshen l wrote:
>>
>> I might be porting an application written for NextStep to run
>> on a windows box. Currently, the plan is to port it to OPENSTEP
>> so it may run under YellowBox for for windows.
>>
>> Several difficulties in this matter.
>> 1. I have never developed on NextStep
>> 2. I have never developed using the OPENSTEP APIs
>> 3. I currently do not know the Objective-C superset of C
>>
>> Besides for these hurdles, can someone point me in the right direction
>> on starting this port? I've heard there are some tools put out by
>> NEXT to help with this. Where can I get them?
>>
>> The application is not too large, and I should have plenty of time. I
should
>> be able to get all documentation on NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP APIs. The
makefile
>> looks like it was generated by NeXT Project Builder. It has these lines
>> which may be relavent to how the application was made:
>>
>> MAKEFILEDIR = /NextDeveloper/Makefiles/app
>> MAKEFILE = app.make
>> LIBS = -lMedia_s -lNeXT_s
>> -include Makefile.preamble
>> include $(MAKEFILEDIR)/$(MAKEFILE)
>> -include Makefile.postamble
>> -include Makefile.dependencies
>>
>> If anyone could point me in the right direction on getting started,
>> and what info/hurdles I should know about - it would be greatly
appreciated!
>> --
From: someguy@netcom.ca (Justin McKillican)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MP3 player for DR2?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:27:58 -0400
Organization: NETCOM Canada
Message-ID: <someguy-3007981827590001@ott-on1-19.netcom.ca>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Jul 1998 18:34:22 EDT
I was wondering if anyone could get Amp to compile for Rhapsody (mp3
player). Or is there already a mp3 player?
justin
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Font conversion to Windows NT??
Message-ID: <1998073004335300.AAA06678@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 30 Jul 1998 04:33:53 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
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Yes, you convert your Windows NT box to an OpenStep system...
seriously though, the t1utils and similar programs are able to convert .pfa
(which is what NeXT outline font files are even if they've no extension) into
..pfb (which is what Windows uses. Normally to make a .pfm you need a .afm/.inf
pair. Not sure if the NT converter can handle this, but ATM can.
William
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From: "Cliff Tuel" <ctuel@apple.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Font conversion to Windows NT??
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:03:02 -0700
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me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote:
>I have a number of fonts I have accumulated over the years that I
>would like to make work on my Windows NT box. This does not seem to
>be a straightforward process. NT doesn't seem to know what to do
>with an 'afm' file. Is there some sort of font conversion utility I
>can use?
Put them in $NEXT_ROOT/LocalLibrary/Fonts, then type:
buildafmdir $NEXT_ROOT/LocalLibrary/Fonts
If you're starting with a TrueType font, do this step first:
ttf2font -o $NEXT_ROOT/LocalLibrary/Fonts MYFONT.TTF
You might have to re-login to see these (don't remember). And note ttf2font
has some other options; type "ttf2font" alone for usage info.
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From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.objective-c
Subject: Re: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:06:16 +0000
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I heard it took an experienced Next/Openstep programmer one day to port
an app from Nextstep on NeXT to Openstep on NT. I don't know how big the
app was. You bigest problem would be converting from Nextstep Lists,
Hashtables, etc. to Foundation's NSArrays, etc.
chan moshen l wrote:
>
> I might be porting an application written for NextStep to run
> on a windows box. Currently, the plan is to port it to OPENSTEP
> so it may run under YellowBox for for windows.
>
> Several difficulties in this matter.
> 1. I have never developed on NextStep
> 2. I have never developed using the OPENSTEP APIs
> 3. I currently do not know the Objective-C superset of C
>
> Besides for these hurdles, can someone point me in the right direction
> on starting this port? I've heard there are some tools put out by
> NEXT to help with this. Where can I get them?
>
> The application is not too large, and I should have plenty of time. I should
> be able to get all documentation on NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP APIs. The makefile
> looks like it was generated by NeXT Project Builder. It has these lines
> which may be relavent to how the application was made:
>
> MAKEFILEDIR = /NextDeveloper/Makefiles/app
> MAKEFILE = app.make
> LIBS = -lMedia_s -lNeXT_s
> -include Makefile.preamble
> include $(MAKEFILEDIR)/$(MAKEFILE)
> -include Makefile.postamble
> -include Makefile.dependencies
>
> If anyone could point me in the right direction on getting started,
> and what info/hurdles I should know about - it would be greatly appreciated!
> --
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From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Seek "SciPlot.app" for NEXTSTEP 3.3/OPENSTEP 4.1 (m68k and Intel).
Date: 30 Jul 1998 15:49:53 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <6pq4n1$iro@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>
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On 07/29/98, Yeun-Jung Wu wrote:
>Long time ago I used an X-Y plotting application called SciPlot.app
on
>NeXT OS 2.2. I just wonder whether there exists updated version which
>can be run on Intel machine? OPENSTEP 4.1? Searching through peanuts
>ftp site wasn't very successful so I appreciate net wisdom to shed
>some light on my question. Thank you in advanced!
>
I use SciPlot, version 4.01, and am able to run it on Openstep 4.2.
It has a lot of excellent features which I have not seen on other
scientific plotting software. I believe you should be able to
download it from the peanuts archive; however, I am not certain about
this. I did try to e-mail the author since I wanted to pay him for
the shareware AND send him a bottle of wine and I wanted to make sure
I have the right snail-mail address. (On the app help panel, e
requested that the user pay $35 or send him a bottle of good red
wine). He never responded to me -- but here is his e-mail address as
given on the app --
mike@calamity.rz-berlin.mpg.de
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From: cbagwell@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: The Saga of CD-R audio on Black NeXT continues...
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:48:52 GMT
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Not sure I can help or not but I'll throw in my 2 cents. Which version
exactly were you using of Sox? You can obtain the latest version from my web
page at http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/cbagwell/projects.html
It corrects a few bugs in cdr files over some older versions of sox.
Next, the actual sound data was to be in a certian byte order (big endian
format) when its physically on the cd-r disk. But some of the cd-r hardware
expects the data to be in little endian format and will do the conversion
before it writes to the disk. Hopefully a manual will tell you which format
your drive expects otherwise you may have to waste some disks experiementing.
Sox allows you to swap the byte order (only in the very lastest versions from
my web page on NeXT machines) using the -x option. example:
sox filename.snd -x filename.cdr
If this doesn't work for you then I would be glad to try and look deeper into
any possible sox problems if you email me.
In article <6pok7v$5rb$1@calvin.skidmore.edu>,
jmeacham@rosetta-stone.com wrote:
>
> So, here's the background, for viewers new to the saga:
>
> About three weeks ago, I bought an HP 6020 Surestore CD-R unit, since
> all of the software I had run into for the NeXT said it was supported
> and I found one for a good price ($200). My main reason for buying it
> was to make audio CDs for my friends. My secondary reason was to make
> backups for my NeXT TurboColor Station in case my QIC tapedrive died.
> Now for the audio. I figured I'd try CDDesigner.app first, since it
> looked like there weren't any restrictions in the demo mode on audio
> CDs. Well, I added a bunch of tracks that I had recorded to the disk
> and checked (they were all playable on the hard disk). They were all
> in snd format. Well, the had CD recorded tracks of the correct
> length, and several of them had a second or two of music before fading
> into a fuzz of white noise, but the CD was mostly garbage.
>
> So, tactic two...I tried to do the same with AerePerrenius. This time
> I didn't even get playable tracks. So I thought it might be something
> in the sound format. I got the newest version of 'sox', and converted
> all the tracks into cdr format, the native format cd audio. This
> time, it wrote the disk, with the appropriate tracks, but this time it
> had exactly the same sort of short music lead in, white noise thing
> that I had had with CDDesigner. I began to think maybe there was
> something wrong with the translation software.
>
> So I tried converting the *.cdr files I had on the hard drive back
> into *snd files. The conversion worked, but guess what...it was a
> couple seconds of music and then white noise...just like on the CD.
> So I have concluded that probably both CDDesigner and AerePerennius
> use sox or something based on sox to convert their files from snd to
> cdr, and there is something wrong with that algorithm.
>
>
> Peace all,
>
> James
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From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.objective-c
Subject: Re: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP
Date: 30 Jul 98 20:42:49
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In-reply-to: Robert Forsyth's message of Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:06:16 +0000
In article <35C10A78.BC0D3088@forsee.tcp.co.uk>,
Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk> writes:
I heard it took an experienced Next/Openstep programmer one day to
port an app from Nextstep on NeXT to Openstep on NT. I don't know
how big the app was. You bigest problem would be converting from
Nextstep Lists, Hashtables, etc. to Foundation's NSArrays, etc.
Must have been a demo app. The conversion scripts help give you a
good starting point, but in the end you still have to go through and
manually dot the i's and cross the t's. For medium sized apps (aka,
apps at the high end of single-person maintainability), I've found
that it takes more than a day just to get things to compile and link,
much less _work_.
One misleading point is that for a good-sized program it only takes,
say, a week to get a "running" program, for some definition of
"running". Which sounds good, but it takes a couple more weeks to
shake out the bigger bugs, and then another month or so of shake-down
time to get the little ones mostly out. For the most part, the logic
and whatnot of the app remains as solid as the original - but you have
to execute every code path to make sure that it's still operating as
intended.
Later,
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From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ImageMagik convert for NS 3x m68k??
Date: 31 Jul 1998 12:26:04 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <6psd4s$rtn$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Does anyone have a m68 binary of the convert program from ImageMagik?
I've been unable to compile it and don't find it in the ftp sites.
thx
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From: rakhal@olsen.ch (Rakhal Dave)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: www browser for next
Date: 31 Jul 1998 14:45:57 GMT
Organization: EUnet AG
Message-ID: <6pslb5$14b$1@news.eunet.ch>
Where can I find a www browser to run on my next slab?
Please point me to FAQ's if they exist on this. Thanks -Rakhal
Dr. Rakhal Dave, Olsen & Associates, Zurich, Switzerland
WWW server: http://www.olsen.ch/
From: rakhal@olsen.ch (Rakhal Dave)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: pc emulator for next
Date: 31 Jul 1998 14:47:12 GMT
Organization: EUnet AG
Message-ID: <6psldg$14b$2@news.eunet.ch>
Where can I find a pc emulator for my next slab?
Please point me to FAQ's if they exist on this. Thanks -Rakhal
Dr. Rakhal Dave, Olsen & Associates, Zurich, Switzerland
WWW server: http://www.olsen.ch/
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IMAP server for NeXT?
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:55:46 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
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Short question: is there a (ready to use?) IMAP server software for
NeXTStep3.3 (black)?
I ask this because recently I networked (using PC-TCP) my son's computer
(486, Windoze3.1) into my local network and I would like to give him the
ability to read and write emails under windoze locally and then seamlessly
send and receive them via my NeXT (which is connected to the internet via
PPP once every night). I tried several different email programs (eudora,
elm, and pc-pine) on the PC side, but so far none worked. The most
promising seems PINE, but it wants to download its mail via IMAP -- and
while I found some POP3 servers for NS, I didn't fine any IMAP servers
(yet). Thus my request.
Looking forward to your comments and suggestions!
Helmut
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From: kurt@starr.smeggin.org (Kurt Werle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: www browser for next
Date: 31 Jul 1998 17:43:58 GMT
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In article <6pslb5$14b$1@news.eunet.ch>, Rakhal Dave wrote:
>Where can I find a www browser to run on my next slab?
>Please point me to FAQ's if they exist on this. Thanks -Rakhal
In general you should probably specify what OS you're running...
http://www.omnigroup.com (for graphical)
http://lynx.browser.org (for text browser)
lynx is mostly available as source.
you can ftp.omnigroup.com for omniweb
Kurt
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From: embuck@palmer.cca.rockwell.com (Erik M. Buck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.objective-c
Subject: Re: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP
Date: 31 Jul 1998 17:14:25 GMT
Organization: Rockwell International
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Just for those who are getting confused about conflicting claims.
Converting from NeXTstep to Openstep can take weeks or months.
Once you have an Openstep application, moving it from Mach to NT is hours or
days.
From: Jodell Bumatai <jbumatai@inprise.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.objective-c
Subject: Re: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:03:59 -0700
Organization: Inprise Corporation
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Hello,
I have three questions:
1)The first has to do with NS 3.3 to OS conversion. I just bought the NS 3.3.
Are there classes I should not be using if I plan to port a program from NS to
OS? That is, is there any way to avoid porting problems if I start out with NS
3.3? Can I design the basics programming logic and make changes after I port?
2)Are the NS 3.3 classes protable to the FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD oses? I bought
NS 3.3 because I thought I could design and develop portable code to Unix.
3)How do I link C++ files with the Objective-C coding? Is there any compiler
which can link C++ and Obj -C?
Jodell
Erik M. Buck wrote:
> Just for those who are getting confused about conflicting claims.
>
> Converting from NeXTstep to Openstep can take weeks or months.
> Once you have an Openstep application, moving it from Mach to NT is hours or
> days.
From: Jodell Bumatai <jbumatai@inprise.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.objective-c
Subject: Re: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:05:41 -0700
Organization: Inprise Corporation
Message-ID: <35C22394.BC8E7191@inprise.com>
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Re: Linking C++ to Obj-C, can I just use and extern call? If so, how?
Jodell
Erik M. Buck wrote:
> Just for those who are getting confused about conflicting claims.
>
> Converting from NeXTstep to Openstep can take weeks or months.
> Once you have an Openstep application, moving it from Mach to NT is hours or
> days.
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.objective-c
Subject: Re: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP
Date: 31 Jul 1998 20:48:31 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <6ptaiv$fcf$1@news.spacelab.net>
References: <6plpa3$a36$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <35C10A78.BC0D3088@forsee.tcp.co.uk> <SCOTT.98Jul30204249@slave.doubleu.com> <6psu1i$3vt1@onews.collins.rockwell.com> <35C2232E.2FB25BB9@inprise.com>
Jodell Bumatai <jbumatai@inprise.com> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have three questions:
>
>1)The first has to do with NS 3.3 to OS conversion. I just bought the NS 3.3.
>Are there classes I should not be using if I plan to port a program from NS to
>OS? That is, is there any way to avoid porting problems if I start out with NS
>3.3? Can I design the basics programming logic and make changes after I port?
3.3 comes with Foundation, but not the other, upper layers of OpenStep. If you plan to
write OpenStep code, you should consider upgrading to OS 4.2, because that'll make the
transition easier.
Still, 3.3 is significantly closer than earlier NEXTSTEP releases. Also, knowing
what's changed for OS would help a great deal when designing your projects in order to
make the task of porting easier down the road.
> 2)Are the NS 3.3 classes protable to the FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD oses? I bought
> NS 3.3 because I thought I could design and develop portable code to Unix.
You can write generic ANSI C that's reasonably portable, and even do POSIX.1 (although
there are a handful of bugs [serious ones, unfortunately] with NEXTSTEP 3.3 POSIX
support). Also, you could reasonably expect to have the g++ standard lib around on all
of the above for the C++ classes.
As for Obj-C classes, you'd have to look into the GNUstep project for what you'd be
able to compile for those platforms.
> 3)How do I link C++ files with the Objective-C coding? Is there any compiler
> which can link C++ and Obj -C?
The NeXT compiler, cc (which is gcc), will deal with ObjC++ code, and you can even mix
the two within the same source file if you like. There should be an example in
/NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit....
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@ti.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: REQ: Please send me modem inits
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:26:57 -0500
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Message-ID: <35C1D431.B81B60D@ti.com>
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Mark Trombino wrote:
>
> (Sorry for the crosspost, but I really don't know where something like this belongs)
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm working on a new version of LogOn (a front end for PPP) and I would like
> to include modem
> initialization strings for as many modems as I can get my hands on. If you
> can find the time, could you please email me the modem you use
> and the initialization string you use for it?
I second this. A modem init string database has been too long in the
making. If you get a chance, PLEEEEAAASSEE send Mark your working
init strings (and the modem make). This will go a long way towards
making PPP installation less of a pain in the rear!
TIA,
Steve
From: nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.org (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IMAP server for NeXT?
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 19:39:26 GMT
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Organization: @Home Network
An imapd comes with pine (http://www.washington.edu/pine/) and compiles
cleanly on NeXT.
Unfortunately there was a security release after the latest release of PINE,
and I haven't had a chance to compile it.
You might find a NeXT binary (m68k) on the PINE ftp site
(ftp://ftp.washington.edu/pine IIRC)
(One of the PINE developers is still using a NeXT 3.0 I think)
TjL
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From: "Andrew Skinner (Vis.)" <skinner@custer.jhuapl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: help needed for hardware and OS upgrade
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:52:51 -0400
Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab, Laurel, MD, USA
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I will pay for this assistance:
I am looking for someone in the College Park, MD area to help me upgrade
my 1991 black
slab. I need to add memory (8 MB -> 32 MB), devices (CDROM, FaxModem,
External HD),
and the most recent OS that will run on my machine. I want to maintain
compatibility with
my 1991 installed software such as Mathematica, Lotus Improv, and
WriteNow, and add
software, especially a Web Browser.
Please reply directly to me with quotes if you are interested and
available.
Thank you,
Andrew Skinner
skinner@custer.jhuapl.edu
(301) 345 5067
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IMAP server for NeXT?
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 07:04:32 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
Sender: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller)
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In article <O3pw1.1713$LG5.9085376@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>
nospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospamnospam@luomat.peak.or
g (TjL) writes:
>
> An imapd comes with pine (http://www.washington.edu/pine/) and compiles
> cleanly on NeXT.
Timothy,
thanks for your help, I could download the imapd bin for NeXT, *BUT* I
don't know how to set the daemon up correctly :-(
if I just start the imapd (as root) then I get
heller:27# imapd
* OK heller IMAP4rev1 v11.237 server ready
and after a while:
* BYE Autologout; idle for too long
do I have to start it from inetd like pop3d? I tried this, too, but I am
unsure which port number to use. Needless to say: the PC of my son so far
can't contact my new imapd-server; it displays the message
Can't connect to heller,143: Refused (61)
(heller is the hostname of my supposed imap-server, the NeXT machine)
I looked through the pine help file, but couldn't find any hints on how to
install the imapd on my UNIX machine. Do you have any hints for me??
Thank you very much!
helmut
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From: someguy@netcom.ca (Justin McKillican)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: newsreader app for YB/terminal?
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 03:23:26 -0400
Organization: NETCOM Canada
Message-ID: <someguy-0108980323260001@ott-on4-37.netcom.ca>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 01 Aug 1998 03:23:16 EDT
Any newsreader apps at all for rhapsody in YB or terminal? i tried
compiling a few, but had no luck..
justin
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.objective-c
Subject: Re: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP
Date: 31 Jul 98 14:50:59
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SCOTT.98Jul31145059@slave.doubleu.com>
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In-reply-to: embuck@palmer.cca.rockwell.com's message of 31 Jul 1998 17:14:25 GMT
In article <6psu1i$3vt1@onews.collins.rockwell.com>,
embuck@palmer.cca.rockwell.com (Erik M. Buck) writes:
Just for those who are getting confused about conflicting claims.
Converting from NeXTstep to Openstep can take weeks or months.
Once you have an Openstep application, moving it from Mach to NT is
hours or days.
Agreed, though it does depend on what stage you're at. We did the
conversion on OS/Mach, and the _majority_ of the debugging on OS/Mach.
But there were some significant gotchas in going to NT, especially
related to include files. There were enough minor nits that I'd
encourage anyone porting from NeXTSTEP to OpenStep to use both OS/Mach
_and_ OS/NT as early as possible. All of the things we had to fix for
OS/NT were completely appropriate - it's just that OS/Mach didn't
complain about them.
Once ported to OS/Mach and OS/NT, the "port" to Rhapsody is very
quick. [And, again, I'm finding DR2 invaluable in development for
OS/NT 4.2, mainly because the documentation is more complete.]
Later,
--
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<Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots
Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IMAP server for NeXT?
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 07:40:31 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
Sender: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller)
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OK, in the meantime I found imapd installation instructions
(ftp://ftp.uni-magdeburg.de/pub/mirror/ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/tec
h-notes.txt) -- the most important thing was to update the netinfo services
along with /etc/services -- of course!
Now the PC-behaviour is changed: pine asks us for a user name and a
password and on the NeXT side inetd starts imapd (seen via ps -aux). Great
so far! I think the two computers have a basic sort of connection now :-)
BUT: pine then times out on validating the user (yes, login and passwd are
correct for the NeXT)! One quirk: PINE displays the passwd in clear text
once it has been entered (pine suppresses the echo of the passwd while
entering it).
Any ideas what I could do now? Is this a PINE problem? Or on the imapd
side?
Thanks in advance!!
Helmut
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From: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Bluebox -> Dos Card->Win95/WinNT?
Date: 1 Aug 1998 14:55:34 GMT
Organization: IDT (Best News In The World)
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I was wondering if , any of you guys can tell me, how realistic it maybe to
use a Dos Card via Bluebox. I am thinking about buying a G3 + plus a orange
pc dos card. I was hoping to using the dos card while running Rhapsody
DR2/MacOSX server, just wanted to get a perspective on how realistic this
idea might be. Would I be able to assess the dos card when running the
bluebox app.
In other world: Rhapsody Mach -> Bluebox/running Bluebox application -> dos
card -> NT/95?
Ultimately, I would be like to run some sort of win95/winNT box, within
Rhapsody (This is due to the fact, my company's software does not run on a
mac, and it vital that I am able to run it at a reasonable speed). I am
looking for the fastest solution, without forcing to boot the other Intel
base PCs. Thanks in advance.
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CD-RW and Openstep
Date: 1 Aug 1998 15:36:08 GMT
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Hi,
just bought a Yamaha CRW4260t. Now I wonder if it is possible to use rw
cds with Openstep.
If it is possible, what do I need to do to get it to work? (Anything like
a disktab entry liek with the Jaz?)
--
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@mediaone.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PencilMeIn2.0/Upgrade
Date: 1 Aug 1998 22:52:56 GMT
Organization: UCO & Associates, NH, USA
Message-ID: <6q0688$e7k$1@lwnws01.ne.highway1.com>
Hi all:
I have PencilMeIn 1.2, and never upgraded to 2.0. I'd like to upgrade to the
2.0 version but am not sure how that might be possible now that SUN bought
the company out and the product is apparently no longer being offered for
sale.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pixel Magician diskette serial numbers
Date: 1 Aug 1998 16:51:09 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6q09ld$lao@slip.net>
Hi,
You may have noticed on c.n.s.a,
the kind folks at Bacchus software
have made single user licenses available
for free for the product called Pixel Magician.
Upon installing the software you are prompted
for a serial number, which according to the
installation instructions, normally
comes on the diskettes.
Of course the downloadable version of PM
at their website is not on diskettes. So
am I missing something? Where are you supposed
to get the serial number?
Since the free version is not supported
the people at Bacchus can't help.
Thanks,
Emmett
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From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pixel Magician diskette serial numbers
Date: 2 Aug 1998 01:29:22 GMT
Organization: MiscKit Development
Message-ID: <6q0fdi$jk5$1@news.xmission.com>
References: <6q09ld$lao@slip.net>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 1998 01:29:22 GMT
emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote:
> Upon installing the software you are prompted
> for a serial number, which according to the
> installation instructions, normally
> comes on the diskettes.
>
> Of course the downloadable version of PM
> at their website is not on diskettes. So
> am I missing something? Where are you supposed
> to get the serial number?
I know it is probably too much to ask, but did you bother to look at the
ReleaseNotes files? It's kind of hard to miss the license keys set in 24pt.
Bold Helvetica amidst the 15 pt. Times Roman in the third paragraph...
--
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-Don Yacktman
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From: Eric Bloom <eric_bloom@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pixel Magician diskette serial numbers
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 20:58:07 -0700
Organization: Bacchus, Inc.
Message-ID: <35C3E3CF.487D64F4@mindspring.com>
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We have clarified this is a new update that was uploaded today, e.g.,
the installation instructions for the version distributed from our Web
site were updated. The Pixel Magician Info Panel
was also updated along with some minor additions to the on-line help and
copyright information. The latest versions are Pixel Magician V1.41e,
and Image Agent V1.2e..
As long as you fill in something for each field in the license panel,
you will be able to input
the password key and license (supplied in the release notes file). If
you are not able to license, this usually indicates that your network
configuration is not setup properly. Our licensing scheme relies on a
proper network configuration.
Eric Bloom
Bacchus, Inc.
eric@bacchus.com
http://www.bacchus.com/
Emmett McLean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You may have noticed on c.n.s.a,
> the kind folks at Bacchus software
> have made single user licenses available
> for free for the product called Pixel Magician.
>
> Upon installing the software you are prompted
> for a serial number, which according to the
> installation instructions, normally
> comes on the diskettes.
>
> Of course the downloadable version of PM
> at their website is not on diskettes. So
> am I missing something? Where are you supposed
> to get the serial number?
>
> Since the free version is not supported
> the people at Bacchus can't help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Emmett
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <4193901425621@digifix.com>
Date: 2 Aug 1998 03:48:45 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <6522902030423@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
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To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
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address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
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If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: waterwork1@aol.com
Date: 1 Aug 1998 22:22:44 -0400
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pool cleaning Aquabot
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Subject: Re: Pixel Magician diskette serial numbers
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <6q09ld$lao@slip.net>
In-Reply-To: <6q09ld$lao@slip.net>
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul Samson)
Message-ID: <BL2x1.18$Fw6.291210@NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net>
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 19:05:05 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 15:05:05 EDT
On 08/01/98, Emmett McLean wrote:
>Hi,
>
>You may have noticed on c.n.s.a,
>the kind folks at Bacchus software
>have made single user licenses available
>for free for the product called Pixel Magician.
>
>Upon installing the software you are prompted
>for a serial number, which according to the
>installation instructions, normally
>comes on the diskettes.
I just entered the number '1' for the serial numbers and it works. I
guess the licencer doesn't really care about what your serial number
is.
Jean-Paul
--
-===================================================================-
Jean-Paul C. Samson -==- jsamson@istar.ca (NeXTmail & MIME welcome)
-=============- http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul -=============-
-===================================================================-
"Microsoft is a fact of life. They're like the air we breathe.
Perhaps a better analogy is bottled water, because you have to buy
it." -- Steve Jobs, Apple Computer's Worldwide Developers
Conference, May 16th, 1997
-===================================================================-
From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.objective-c
Subject: Re: Details on porting NEXTSTEP app to OPENSTEP
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 18:50:45 +0000
Organization: Forsee with Style
Message-ID: <35C4B505.7F3036EE@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
References: <6plpa3$a36$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <35C10A78.BC0D3088@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
<SCOTT.98Jul30204249@slave.doubleu.com> <6psu1i$3vt1@onews.collins.rockwell.com>
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Yes, on reflection; they were continually upgrading (NS to OS) while
enhancing the app, but they switched from mach to NT in a few days. I
think there was some problems with the Netware parts of their system,
since the support for this vanished in NT. (This info is a bit
unreliable, since it is from a conversation in a pub, while
designing/discussing another app).
Erik M. Buck wrote:
>
> Just for those who are getting confused about conflicting claims.
>
> Converting from NeXTstep to Openstep can take weeks or months.
> Once you have an Openstep application, moving it from Mach to NT is hours or
> days.
--
Robert Forsyth
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~forsee/
tel/fax: +44 1243 787487
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What is Enterprise Server for NT?
Date: 2 Aug 1998 15:15:45 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6q2oeh$2lc@slip.net>
Hi,
What is EOF Enterprise Server for NT ?
1. OPENSTEP running under OS
2. A set of C++ libraries that let you port OPENSTEP programs to NT?
3. Something like Apache developed by NeXT designed for use with WebObjects ?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: BillLeeX@cleaf.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pixel Magician diskette serial numbers
Date: 3 Aug 1998 15:39:53 GMT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Message-ID: <6q4lk9$ef9$1@news12.ispnews.com>
References: <6q09ld$lao@slip.net> <35C3E3CF.487D64F4@mindspring.com> <35C4EFA7.358F6820@mindspring.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Aug 1998 15:39:53 GMT
I've been watching this thread since I am installing PM on my NeXT Turbo
slab, OS 4.2. Everything installed correctly as best as I can tell, I have
read all of the release notes as well as the installation instructions, I
have used the password provided in the release notes, but.....
When I run either of the "Netshield_..." apps, I get a dialogue error box
that says something like
"Most servers inactive"
instead of the "Licensing successful" that I expected. As you might expect,
licensing was NOT successful, and I am unable to get PM to execute.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Bill Lee
(Remove the X to respond.)
From: John Kheit <jkheit@mediaone.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pixel Magician diskette serial numbers
Date: 3 Aug 1998 17:50:30 GMT
Organization: UCO & Associates, NH, USA
Message-ID: <6q4t96$evb$2@lwnws01.ne.highway1.com>
References: <6q09ld$lao@slip.net> <35C3E3CF.487D64F4@mindspring.com> <35C4EFA7.358F6820@mindspring.com> <6q4lk9$ef9$1@news12.ispnews.com>
BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> Any suggestions?
That companies not use annoying copy protection schemes tied to HD size, or
other temporal hardware devices. It's annoying, frustrating, and seems to
hurt only the buying public as the scammers will always work around.
That being said, sorry, I paid for Pixel Magician, and after getting it to
work, I decided not to upgrade because of just this sort of problem. BTW,
the app and service itself are great. Good luck. (John now satisfied after
venting on the evils of annoying copy protection schemes :)
-- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; self expressed --
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From: capi@interferr.com (Capi.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: looking for Cosmos 1.61
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 20:24:22 GMT
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I´m trying to find Cosmos 1.61 or crack for this.
Please send me some information.
capi@interferr.com
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From: darwish@diderot.fre.jhu.edu (Miladus Edenensis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Lost Hardware Password
Date: 3 Aug 1998 19:46:55 GMT
Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA
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A friend of mine has a Color Slab that has a hardware password. He does not
know the password nor does the previous owner. Any ideas on how to reset it?
Please send the info to ryno@ryno.phl.jhu.edu
Many thanks.
--
Miladus Edenensis
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Key remapping for Emacs
Date: 3 Aug 1998 14:40:26 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6q5aoa$1e6@slip.net>
References: <6q43ft$je9$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
This is an emacs question, not really a question
specific to NeXT computers. The answer applies
to every UNIX dialect where emacs is installed.
When emacs starts up it looks in your home
directory for a .emacs file. The mappings
occur there in LISP code. I think in a
function named something like autoexec.
If you post on gnu.emacs.help you should
be able to get the specifics. If
you have the O'Reilly Emacs book look
in the index for key mappings or autoexec.
Hope this helps,
Emmett
From: daj@nwu.edu (David A.Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: 4 Aug 1998 02:39:51 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
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I recently heard that TjL aka nospamnospamnospam....... (infamous monitor of
Peak and Peanuts) will be taking a leave of absence. I'd like to extend my
personal thank's for his continual help and references.
Tim, What happened did you finally decide to take a real job?
--
David A. Johnson email: daj@nwu.edu
Manager Computer Facility and Engineering Phone: (312) 503-0408
Feinberg Research Institute, Fax: (312) 503-0137
Northwestern University HAM call: N9HAM
From: John Kheit <jkheit@mediaone.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: 4 Aug 1998 04:51:08 GMT
Organization: UCO & Associates, NH, USA
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daj@nwu.edu (David A.Johnson) wrote:
>
> I recently heard that TjL aka nospamnospamnospam....... (infamous
> monitor of Peak and Peanuts) will be taking a leave of absence.
> I'd like to extend my personal thank's for his continual help
> and references.
>
> Tim, What happened did you finally decide to take a real job?
I have to agree. Tim has helped me so seriously on so many
occassions, I cannot even count. He has been a blessing to me and
this community. Tim, I hope the greatest of adventures opportunities
find you in your new venture.
--
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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Subject: Re: IMAP server for NeXT?
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I just noticed on the peak archives a newbie peice of software:
http://www.peak.org/next/apps/mail/imap-4.1.FINAL.NIHS.b.tar.gz
Looks like a winner, I'd like to know how it performs.
-- John
----------------------------------
heller@altoetting-online.de wrote:
>
> Short question: is there a (ready to use?) IMAP server software for
> NeXTStep3.3 (black)?
>
> I ask this because recently I networked (using PC-TCP) my son's computer
> (486, Windoze3.1) into my local network and I would like to give him the
> ability to read and write emails under windoze locally and then seamlessly
> send and receive them via my NeXT (which is connected to the internet via
> PPP once every night). I tried several different email programs (eudora,
> elm, and pc-pine) on the PC side, but so far none worked. The most
> promising seems PINE, but it wants to download its mail via IMAP -- and
> while I found some POP3 servers for NS, I didn't fine any IMAP servers
> (yet). Thus my request.
>
> Looking forward to your comments and suggestions!
>
> Helmut
>
> --
> Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail accepted________________
> Phone: +49-8671-881665 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
> heller@altoetting-online.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7
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From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Key remapping for Emacs
Date: 4 Aug 1998 10:11:30 GMT
Organization: Cambridge University
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Cc: emclean@slip.net
In <6q5aoa$1e6@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
> This is an emacs question, not really a question
> specific to NeXT computers. The answer applies
> to every UNIX dialect where emacs is installed.
Somehow I am not so sure that it is....
> When emacs starts up it looks in your home
> directory for a .emacs file. The mappings
> occur there in LISP code. I think in a
> function named something like autoexec.
> If you post on gnu.emacs.help you should
> be able to get the specifics.
How, then, do you propose that I actually map the key labelled
'ctrl' that is lying just below the return key under my right hand
finger to act as a proper ctrl key in Emacs?
For example, how do I find out what the key is called so that I can
re-map it? When I do:
M-x self-insert-command
and type the key I get a ^M on the screen.
Likewise, C-q is unhelpful as it has to wait for ensuing characters to
make up its mind.
But thanks, I'll post to the Emacs group as you suggest.
--
thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university;
tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 335089; fax: 334678;
http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 MIME & NeXT Mail OK.
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Rebinding CTRL for Emacs
Date: 4 Aug 1998 10:21:00 GMT
Organization: Cambridge University
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How do I bind a key to act as the ctrl key in Emacs for OPENSTEP?
I am running GNU Emacs 19.34.1 (mab-next-nextstep3), under
OPENSTEP 4.2 on an Intel PPro.
There is a key marked 'ctrl' just below (and to the right of)
the return key on my keyboard. It isn't a control key, however; it
functions as alt with the NEXT USA remapping.
I would like it to function as the ctrl key in Emacs to enable my right
hand to hold the ctrl key and relieve the pain in my left that comes
with chording.
I am an Emacs newbie and am not certain if this question is simply a
matter of rebinding the key. For exmaple, how do I find out what the
key is called so that I can re-map it? When I do:
M-x self-insert-command
and type the key I get a ^M on the screen (same for \C, \e, alt)...
Likewise, C-q is unhelpful as it has to wait for ensuing characters to
make up its mind.
Any suggestions welcome.
--
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From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: LaTeX processing in Emacs
Date: 4 Aug 1998 11:32:30 GMT
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I am having problems running LaTeX from within an Emacs session in
latex-mode.
I am running GNU Emacs 19.34.1 (mab-next-nextstep3), under
OPENSTEP 4.2 on an Intel PPro, and I have the teTeX distribution
for the same.
When I do C-c C-b, I get:
bash-2.00$ cd /tmp/
bash-2.00$ latex /tmp/#tz15060coriander-cl-cam-ac-uk
This is CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141
I can't find the default format file!
bash-2.00$
Has anyone else had the same problems when texing documents
in Emacs?
Any suggestions welcome.
--
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tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 335089; fax: 334678;
http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 MIME & NeXT Mail OK.
From: Toby Speight <Toby.Speight@digitivity.com>
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Rebinding CTRL for Emacs
Date: 04 Aug 1998 11:58:07 +0100
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Thomas> Thomas Harte <URL:mailto:tph1001@cam.ac.uk>
0> In <URL:news:6q6nac$2dk$2@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Thomas wrote:
Thomas> How do I bind a key to act as the ctrl key in Emacs for
Thomas> OPENSTEP?
You'll probably have to do it outside Emacs. If you're running X, look
at the xmodmap command, otherwise see the manual for your particular
terminal or terminal-emulator. I don't know anything about OPENSTEP in
particular.
From: fflak@aurora.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: LaTeX processing in Emacs
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 15:45:40 GMT
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In article <6q6rge$2dk$4@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> I am having problems running LaTeX from within an Emacs session in
> latex-mode.
<SNIP>
I don't know your particular problems, but if you've installed teTeX, you
might want to install AUCTex as well. This is a package for editing LaTeX
with Emacs.
I use AUCTeX on my NS 3.3 system running on NeXT and PC (ThinkPad 760ED).
Just install as outlined in the instructions that come with the distribution.
The local lisp files live in /LocalApps/Emacs.app/share/emacs/site-lisp. In
order to get the dvi viewer to work properly, edit tex.el as follows:
old: (list "View" "%v" 'TeX-run-silent t nil)
new: {list "View" "/usr/bin/open %s.dvi" 'TeX-runsilent t nil)
Then, "it just works."
AUCTeX is available through the CTAN archives.
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Subject: Re: Emacs with *viper-mode*
From: t.hoepfner@iname.com (Timo Hoepfner)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 18:25:45 +0200
Message-ID: <1dd8eo4.2876km1aesacoN@g3.localnet>
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Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Can anyone point me in the direction of a working copy of Emacs
> for OPENSTEP on a PPro, with viper-mode working. On my copy
> (from next-ftp.peak.org) I get:
>
> Loading viper...
> Symbol's function definition is void: x-color-defined-p
>
> and viper-mode won't load.
>
Try changing "x-color-defined-p" to "ns-color-defined-p".
Bye Timo
--
Timo Hoepfner - t.hoepfner@iname.com
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: 4 Aug 1998 09:51:25 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6q7e6d$jp1@slip.net>
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David A.Johnson <daj@nwu.edu> wrote:
>
>I recently heard that TjL aka nospamnospamnospam....... (infamous monitor of
>Peak and Peanuts) will be taking a leave of absence. I'd like to extend my
>personal thank's for his continual help and references.
>
I'll second that.
Timothy, I hope you stay in touch with c.s.n.s.
Emmett
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Rebinding CTRL for Emacs
Date: 4 Aug 1998 17:56:12 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
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Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> How do I bind a key to act as the ctrl key in Emacs for OPENSTEP?
>
> I am running GNU Emacs 19.34.1 (mab-next-nextstep3), under
> OPENSTEP 4.2 on an Intel PPro.
>
> There is a key marked 'ctrl' just below (and to the right of)
> the return key on my keyboard. It isn't a control key, however; it
> functions as alt with the NEXT USA remapping.
>
>I would like it to function as the ctrl key in Emacs to enable my right
>hand to hold the ctrl key and relieve the pain in my left that comes
>with chording.
Are you running Carl Edman's NEXTSTEP-aware port of Emacs? It does deal with
the individual keyboard events, and would allow the distinction just as the
X-windows version of emacs can distinguish between TAB and C-i, or DELETE and
C-h. If you are running that version, take a look at the "customizing key
bindings" help node, C-h i, m emacs, m key bindings.
However, what is probably easier is to run /NextDeveloper/Demos/KeyBoard.app,
open your current keyboard mapping file (check Preferences), select the key
you wish to modify.
The app should display the key-code entry (which is the raw hardware key code
generated by the keyboard), a type (which should be "modifier"), and a
6-radio-button list of the different modifier types, which you should change
as you please. Save the keymapping-- either as root to modify it for all
users, or to somewhere your account has permissions and tell Preferences to
use that keyboard mapping.
> For exmaple, how do I find out what the key is called so that I can re-map
> it?
Try M-x view-lossage, or C-h k.
-Chuck
PS: Carl Edman's Emacs-for-NEXTSTEP was a superior generalization of the
emacs source tree to remove X-window-system functionality out of the core,
and provide a portable window-system abstraction layer that any particular
window-system would then bind to.
If his modifications had been adapted, the work to make a version of emacs
that worked well under Microsoft Windows would have been cleaner, faster, and
much easier to implement. And this would also have been true for other
window-system aware ports, say for BeOS, or MacOS, or others. It's a shame.
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: Denise Howard <denisehAT@idiomDOT.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: 4 Aug 1998 18:00:40 GMT
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Me too! Tim, that sound you hear is a standing ovation from the
NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP community. Your patience, vigilance, and depth of
knowledge on the topic over the past few years has saved a lot of
frustration (and a few butts, too). Thanks heaps!
Denise
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: LaTeX processing in Emacs
Date: 4 Aug 1998 17:29:26 GMT
Organization: Cambridge University
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In .emacs:
(setq latex-run-command "/usr/teTeX/bin/latex -V")
Duh!
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From: "pludwig" <pludwig@metronet.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PDA600 Software needet
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 22:41:15 +0200
Organization: Primus Online GmbH
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PDA600 Software needet
Hello,
i need Software to load and convert data from PDA600 to PC and also reload
data from PC to PDA600. I have got the PDA600.EXE V1.2 and it works but only
for backup and restore. I have heard about PDA600.EXE V 1.75 which can
convert data but where can i get a copy?
Thank you for any assistance and sorry for my bad english.
Regards
Peter
pludwig@metronet.de
From: david614@boo.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Using FreeBSD and FVWM type Window Managers
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 21:45:25 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6q7vdl$50o$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hi:
For many different reasons, I want to be able to run a different window
manager for the Xserver that I downloaded from peanuts recently. I have
Next.App, but that doesn't seem very functional. Is there a version of FVWM
for the NeXT?, or any other sort of alternate Window manager.
Incidentally, I would rather not be flamed for criticizing the "perfect"
Nextstep interface. I am merely trying to experiment with this platform, and
as I understand Nextstep "sits on top of " a basic BSD 4.4 version of unix, I
assume that alternate window managers can be used on it.
Comments and suggestions please.
David Mussington
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: 4 Aug 1998 21:51:34 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
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In-Reply-To: <6q5s9n$gch@news.acns.nwu.edu>
On 08/03/98, David A.Johnson wrote:
>
>I recently heard that TjL aka nospamnospamnospam....... (infamous
monitor of
>Peak and Peanuts) will be taking a leave of absence. I'd like to
extend my
>personal thank's for his continual help and references.
>
>Tim, What happened did you finally decide to take a real job?
Actually, Tim finally graduated from the seminary and will be
working with troubled kids in Florida (Clearwater I think).
Yeah, he'll definately be missed. Hopefully he'll be back
online soon. Last I heard he wasn't sure what the connectivity
situation would be (he's had a Cable Modem for the last 6 months or
so, so he's REALLY spoiled) and what his time situation was going to
be.
In the meantime, Rex Dieter has stepped up to help with the
peak archive, and between us we should still be able to file stuff
away promptly. :-)
--
Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com>
Stepwise - OpenStep/Rhapsody Information
<URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: gregor@visuallink.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pixel Magician diskette serial numbers
Date: 4 Aug 1998 23:19:37 GMT
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<35C4EFA7.358F6820@mindspring.com> <6q4lk9$ef9$1@news12.ispnews.com>
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In <6q4t96$evb$2@lwnws01.ne.highway1.com> John Kheit wrote:
> BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> > Any suggestions?
>
> That companies not use annoying copy protection schemes tied to HD size, or
> other temporal hardware devices. It's annoying, frustrating, and seems to
> hurt only the buying public as the scammers will always work around.
>
> That being said, sorry, I paid for Pixel Magician, and after getting it to
> work, I decided not to upgrade because of just this sort of problem. BTW,
> the app and service itself are great. Good luck. (John now satisfied
after
> venting on the evils of annoying copy protection schemes :)
>
> -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; self expressed --
> ______________________________________________________________________
> UCO & A S S O C I A T E S ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK
> mailto:jkheit@uco-iplaw.com
> http://people.ne.mediaone.net/jkheit
> You're dangerous because you're honest...
>
I second this 1000%. I also (just) paid for an upgrade from an earlier
version and found PM to be a major pain in the ass to get working. All these
proprietary licensing schemes do is cause headache. I have about a dozen
VERY expensive apps (Mind over Mail, Mathematica, PaperSight,, SoftPC, etc)
that die with the machine it was originally licensed for and installed on.
If some of these developers would put some of their skills and creativity
into writing better and
more elegant code instead of worrying to death that someone will 'borrow' one
of their programs, NeXT might not otherwise be a dying carcass (are you
listening Brian Odlum?)
Sorry about venting on you like that, but DAMN, do I feel better!! Having
said that I have to give credit to Bacchus for having the class to put their
product in the public domain like the amazing Lighthouse Design (thanks
Jonathan Schwartz wherever you are)
gregor
___________________________________________________________________
Never ask a man what kind of airplane he flies. If he flies a fighter, he'll
tell you.
If not,----well, why embarass him......
Col. Bull Meacham- the Great Santini
From: Eric Bloom <eric_bloom@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: problems installing Pixel Magician / Image Agent ...
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 16:58:20 -0700
Organization: Bacchus, Inc.
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John DuBois <jsd@otoson.com> writes:
> I am using PM without a problem as I write this. However, if I take
> down my PPP link and then try to use it, it won't work.
A common problem is that NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP machines are not configured
to recognize their own names when doing hostname lookups. For
example, users with standalone machines often set up a custom hostname
in the local section of HostManager but fail to add a corresponding
new host or alias in the network portion. The result is that the
login window and some other non-network utilities like 'hostname' will
show the custom hostname. However, attempts to use that name with
networking programs fail (like 'talk me@myhostname', PixelMagician's
floating license daemon, sendmail with always_add_domain, ...).
If problems are only seen when the link is down, then it is possible
that the machine is not configured to recognize its own hostname when
the link is down. For example, the machine might relying upon a DNS,
NIS, or master NetInfo server on the other side of the link to resolve
the name. When the link is down, the lookup fails.
If this is indeed the problem, the solution is often to use
HostManager to make the custom hostname an alias or add a new entry
for it in the local NetInfo domain. (I advise being cautious and
backing up /etc/netinfo first.) The exact solution needed will vary
depending on the specifics of the networking and hostname resolution.
-ccwf
===============================================================================
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From: rsmith@eel.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: LaTeX processing in Emacs
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 00:18:54 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
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I think I know what the problem is! If you've installed teTeX and
have all of your paths set up right, I don't understand why you get
the "This is CTeX, NeXT Version ..."
I think if you remove the version of TeX supplied with the NeXT (or at
least get it out of the path), and then make sure that you are
properly pointing to the teTeX files, then at least this potential
problem will go away.
HTH!
Ron
On 4 Aug 1998 11:32:30 GMT, Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>I am running GNU Emacs 19.34.1 (mab-next-nextstep3), under
>OPENSTEP 4.2 on an Intel PPro, and I have the teTeX distribution
>for the same.
>
>When I do C-c C-b, I get:
>
>bash-2.00$ cd /tmp/
>bash-2.00$ latex /tmp/#tz15060coriander-cl-cam-ac-uk
>This is CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141
Message-ID: <35C7BFE7.F10F255@home.com>
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I assume you can use other window managers with the
XNext X Windows program for Nextstep. You probably would
need to recompile them though. As you can't really
replace the Next interface like you can with XWindows,
that XNext app does take over the screen (so I hear) so
it acts kinda like X Windows programs for other GUI-based
OSes.
-- John
------------------------
>
> Hi:
>
> For many different reasons, I want to be able to run a different window
> manager for the Xserver that I downloaded from peanuts recently. I have
> Next.App, but that doesn't seem very functional. Is there a version of FVWM
> for the NeXT?, or any other sort of alternate Window manager.
>
> Incidentally, I would rather not be flamed for criticizing the "perfect"
> Nextstep interface. I am merely trying to experiment with this platform, and
> as I understand Nextstep "sits on top of " a basic BSD 4.4 version of unix, I
> assume that alternate window managers can be used on it.
>
> Comments and suggestions please.
>
> David Mussington
>
> --
> The Truth is Out There
>
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From: echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: 5 Aug 1998 04:19:43 GMT
Organization: IDT (Best News In The World)
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Thanks Tim!
We are all going to miss you. Thanks for the all the help in the past.
I know you help answered a lot of my questions and I didn't really get a
chance to
say thanks. Thanks. Good Luck.
--
/=====================================/
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(NeXTMail,SUN,MIME)
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Subject: Re: Using FreeBSD and FVWM type Window Managers
Date: 5 Aug 1998 04:22:57 GMT
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In <6q7vdl$50o$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> david614@boo.net wrote:
> Hi:
>
> For many different reasons, I want to be able to run a different window
> manager for the Xserver that I downloaded from peanuts recently. I have
> Next.App, but that doesn't seem very functional. Is there a version of
FVWM
> for the NeXT?, or any other sort of alternate Window manager.
>
> Incidentally, I would rather not be flamed for criticizing the "perfect"
> Nextstep interface. I am merely trying to experiment with this platform,
and
> as I understand Nextstep "sits on top of " a basic BSD 4.4 version of unix,
I
> assume that alternate window managers can be used on it.
>
> Comments and suggestions please.
>
> David Mussington
>
>
I believe Rex Dieter has ported AfterStep Xwindows manager to NeXT. You
might want to ask him. I can't remember his e-mail address. Look at his
readme files from his recent unix ports on Peak.
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From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreader app for YB/terminal?
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 01:23:03 -0400
Organization: phenix@interpath.com
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Justin McKillican <someguy@netcom.ca> wrote:
> Any newsreader apps at all for rhapsody in YB or terminal? i tried
> compiling a few, but had no luck..
Check out <http://www.newsreaders.com> and look around.
--
John Moreno
From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News Reader
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 01:23:04 -0400
Organization: phenix@interpath.com
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Ricardo V. Oliveira <rveloso@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
> Does anyone know about some news reader software (like AGENT) that
> supports multi-posting (I'm not talking about cross-posting , because
> sometimes it doesn't work ) . I'm talking about a program which you
> can give a list with newsgroups and post the same message to all of
> them .
Crossposting not working? I don't believe so - if you actually have a
case of this happening, I'd report it immediately for fame and fortune.
> If anyone can help me , plz reply as soon as possible to my e-mail .
> Thanks in advance .
Ok.
--
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From: "Michael A. Thompson" <mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for Black version of TCL8.1
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 01:30:14 -0500
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Looking for Black version of TCL8.1. Does it exist?
Thanks,
Michael
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Unix SysAdmin.
[IRIX - NeXTStep - Linux]
University of North Texas
Center for Experimental Music and Intermedia
[C.E.M.I.]
Office: (940) 565-2382
E-Mail: mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu
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Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
References: <6q5s9n$gch@news.acns.nwu.edu> <6q7i88$i78$1@news.idiom.com>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35c82b2a.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 5 Aug 98 09:51:38 GMT
TjL knows almost anything from everything on NeXT and didn't mind sharing his
knowledge with all of us (especially newcomers). A big thank from here at
Wuerzburg (with a very old NeXT-pool) together with the hope that Timothy
will find a nice job with good connections to the web to join the discussion
about NeXTish things again.
Sven
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From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE-ME.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News Reader
Date: 5 Aug 1998 09:19:41 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
Message-ID: <6q983d$3qt$1@leonie.object-factory.com>
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phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno) wrote:
> Ricardo V. Oliveira <rveloso@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know about some news reader software (like AGENT) that
> > supports multi-posting (I'm not talking about cross-posting , because
> > sometimes it doesn't work ) . I'm talking about a program which you
> > can give a list with newsgroups and post the same message to all of
> > them .
>
> Crossposting not working? I don't believe so - if you actually have a
> case of this happening, I'd report it immediately for fame and fortune.
If you post to 50 groups at the same time there's a good chance that your
posting will be cancelled automatically, hence crossposting does not work.
It's all a matter of perspective...
regards,
erik
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From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tex/latex made easier
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 13:46:26 +0200
Organization: University of Bonn, Germany / www.joint.org
Message-ID: <1ddajjn.12d3u4ih6snvmN@rhrz-isdn3-p8.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
References: <6p8fvn$2544@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
Hello!
Richard Beigel <beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu> wrote:
> (recently uploaded to ftp.peak.org:/next-ftp/next/submissions)
Do You plan a OS (+Rhapsody) version?
Dirk
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From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for Black version of TCL8.1
Date: 5 Aug 1998 15:46:01 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <6q9unp$6ua$3@news.spacelab.net>
References: <35C7FBF6.58A6DFDE@jove.acs.unt.edu>
"Michael A. Thompson" <mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> wrote:
>Looking for Black version of TCL8.1. Does it exist?
It compiles pretty easily, I believe.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: Duncan Grisby <dpg1001@cam.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Network transparency in window system?
Date: 5 Aug 1998 16:48:25 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory
Message-ID: <6qa2cp$4f9$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
I've been searching all over the place for the answer to this quick
question, but I can't find the answer: does the NeXTSTEP / OPENSTEP
window system support network transparency like X? In other words,
can I run an application on one machine, and have its interface
displayed on another machine?
Thanks for any help,
Duncan Grisby.
--
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-- Duncan Grisby --
-- dpg1001@cam.ac.uk --
-- http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~dpg1001/ --
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Network transparency in window system?
Date: 5 Aug 1998 17:42:58 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <6qa5j2$7i9$1@news.spacelab.net>
References: <6qa2cp$4f9$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Duncan Grisby <dpg1001@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>I've been searching all over the place for the answer to this quick
>question, but I can't find the answer: does the NeXTSTEP / OPENSTEP
>window system support network transparency like X? In other words,
>can I run an application on one machine, and have its interface
>displayed on another machine?
Yes. "-NXHost" is the X11 equivalent to "-display".
Note that the machine displaying the remote app needs to have the "private
window server" preference unchecked when the inital connection is formed.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: "Michael A. Thompson" <mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for Black version of TCL8.1
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 15:06:42 -0500
Organization: University of North Texas
Message-ID: <35C8BB52.37DD6F04@jove.acs.unt.edu>
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I ran into some problems at the link stage.... but I am building
gcc2.8.1 so maybe it will be fixed when I try it again...
Michael
Charles W. Swiger wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Thompson" <mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> wrote:
> >Looking for Black version of TCL8.1. Does it exist?
>
> It compiles pretty easily, I believe.
>
> -Chuck
>
> Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
> ---------------+-------------------+--------------------
> "Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
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Michael A. Thompson
Unix SysAdmin.
[IRIX - NeXTStep - Linux]
University of North Texas
Center for Experimental Music and Intermedia
[C.E.M.I.]
Office: (940) 565-2382
E-Mail: mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu
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From: jmeacham@rosetta-stone.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Has anyone been able to record audio CD's on Black HW?
Date: 5 Aug 1998 18:25:34 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College
Message-ID: <6qa82u$gjd$1@calvin.skidmore.edu>
I've posted a couple of times now with more specific questions
regarding recording audio CDs with a CD-R and a turbo colorstation. I
think I've tracked the problem down to the snd to cdr format, e.g.
that all the software available for black hardware screws that
particular translation up, I beleive because sox screws it up on black
HW, at least for me. So has anyone had *any* luck recording audio
CD's onto *any* CD-R device on black HW? Thiw should help me either
narrow down the problem or eliminate my current line of inquiry. See,
the main reason I bought the CD-R was to make audio CDs, and after a
month of assidious effort, I have nothing but a dozen or so gold
drink-coaster to show for it.
Thanks to everyone for reading. PEace,
James
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From: dunham@cs.tulane.edu (Andrea Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Gnuplot 3.6 on NS 3.3
Date: 6 Aug 1998 00:20:31 GMT
Organization: Elec Engr & Comp Sci Dept, Tulane Univ, New Orleans, LA
Message-ID: <6qassf$udk$1@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu>
Hi All,
I need help compiling Gnuplot3.6 (beta) to run on a Nextstation OS-3.3.
I used "configure" to build the Makefile. And "make" gives me:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
...
cc -c -ObjC -I. -I. -I./term -I./term -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 term.c
./term/next.trm:94: warning: could not use precompiled header
'/NextDeveloper/Headers/appkit/appkit.p', because:
./term/next.trm:94: warning: macro 'fputc' defined by ./term/driver.h
conflicts with precomp
...
cc -o gnuplot alloc.o binary.o bitmap.o command.o contour.o datafile.o
eval.o fit.o graphics.o graph3d.o help.o hidden3d.o internal.o
interpol.o matrix.o misc.o parse.o plot.o plot2d.o plot3d.o readline.o
scanner.o set.o show.o specfun.o standard.o stdfn.o term.o time.o util.o
util3d.o epsviewe.o version.o -lsys_s -lNeXT_s -lm
ld: Undefined symbols:
_tcgetattr
_tcsetattr
*** Exit 1
Stop.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I peeked in the configure file and still I can't figure how to fix this
problem. Any help you can give me will be much appreciated.
Thanks,
* AndREa * (dunham@eecs.tulane.edu)
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Rebinding CTRL for Emacs
Followup-To: comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 5 Aug 1998 12:23:13 GMT
Organization: Univerity Essen, Germany
Message-ID: <6q9irh$9qg10@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6q6nac$2dk$2@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk> <6q7hvs$bp$1@news.spacelab.net>
Charles W. Swiger (chuck@codefab.com) wrote:
: [...]
: PS: Carl Edman's Emacs-for-NEXTSTEP was a superior generalization of the
: emacs source tree to remove X-window-system functionality out of the core,
: and provide a portable window-system abstraction layer that any particular
: window-system would then bind to.
:
: If his modifications had been adapted, the work to make a version of emacs
: that worked well under Microsoft Windows would have been cleaner, faster, and
: much easier to implement. And this would also have been true for other
: window-system aware ports, say for BeOS, or MacOS, or others. It's a shame.
Yep, 100%!
This is a case, where I disagree with GNU/Stallman.
Ruediger
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: 5 Aug 1998 12:19:20 GMT
Organization: Univerity Essen, Germany
Message-ID: <6q9ik8$9qg9@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
References: <6q5s9n$gch@news.acns.nwu.edu> <6q7i88$i78$1@news.idiom.com> <35c82b2a.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
I'm waiting for 'TjL' to be in NS/OS/Rhap/MacOS related posts again,
so only "'temporary' thanks and farewell whishes" from me at this moment,
but even more deep ones.
See/read you soon, I'm sure!
Greetings (and said best wishes),
Ruediger
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From: Jeff Parnaby <parnaby@macconnect.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: customizing NEXTSTEP desktop?
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 00:27:32 +0000
Organization: MacConnect - Connecting the Mac OS to the World!
Sender: macconr@pppa6-minneapolis9-5r116.saturn.bbn.com
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Is there an app available that allows for the desktop (workspace)
pattern in NEXTSTEP to be customized? If so, what is the name of it,
and is it available at the peak archive?
Thanks.
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Gnuplot 3.6 on NS 3.3
Date: 6 Aug 1998 10:21:45 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6qc03p$9hq$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <6qassf$udk$1@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Aug 1998 10:21:45 GMT
dunham@cs.tulane.edu (Andrea Dunham) wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I need help compiling Gnuplot3.6 (beta) to run on a Nextstation OS-3.3.
>I used "configure" to build the Makefile. And "make" gives me:
>ld: Undefined symbols:
>_tcgetattr
>_tcsetattr
>*** Exit 1
try adding to other sources:
/*-
* Copyright (c) 1989, 1993
* The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
*
* Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
* modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
* are met:
* 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
* notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
* 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
* notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
* documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
* 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
* must display the following acknowledgement:
* This product includes software developed by the University of
* California, Berkeley and its contributors.
* 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors
* may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software
* without specific prior written permission.
*
* THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND
* ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
* IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE
* ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE
* FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL
* DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS
* OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION)
* HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT
* LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY
* OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF
* SUCH DAMAGE.
*/
#if defined(LIBC_SCCS) && !defined(lint)
static char sccsid[] = "@(#)termios.c 8.2 (Berkeley) 2/21/94";
#endif /* LIBC_SCCS and not lint */
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/fcntl.h>
#include <sys/ioctl.h>
#include <sys/time.h>
#include <sys/file.h>
#include <errno.h>
#include <termios.h>
#include <unistd.h>
typedef int pid_t;
int
tcgetattr(fd, t)
int fd;
struct termios *t;
{
return (ioctl(fd, TIOCGETA, t));
}
int
tcsetattr(fd, opt, t)
int fd, opt;
const struct termios *t;
{
struct termios localterm;
if (opt & TCSASOFT) {
localterm = *t;
localterm.c_cflag |= CIGNORE;
t = &localterm;
}
switch (opt & ~TCSASOFT) {
case TCSANOW:
return (ioctl(fd, TIOCSETA, t));
case TCSADRAIN:
return (ioctl(fd, TIOCSETAW, t));
case TCSAFLUSH:
return (ioctl(fd, TIOCSETAF, t));
default:
errno = EINVAL;
return (-1);
}
}
int
#if __STDC__
tcsetpgrp(int fd, pid_t pgrp)
#else
tcsetpgrp(fd, pgrp)
int fd;
pid_t pgrp;
#endif
{
int s;
s = pgrp;
return (ioctl(fd, TIOCSPGRP, &s));
}
pid_t
tcgetpgrp(fd)
int fd;
{
int s;
if (ioctl(fd, TIOCGPGRP, &s) < 0)
return ((pid_t)-1);
return ((pid_t)s);
}
speed_t
cfgetospeed(const struct termios *t)
{
return (t->c_ospeed);
}
speed_t
cfgetispeed(t)
const struct termios *t;
{
return (t->c_ispeed);
}
int
cfsetospeed(t, speed)
struct termios *t;
speed_t speed;
{
t->c_ospeed = speed;
return (0);
}
int
cfsetispeed(t, speed)
struct termios *t;
speed_t speed;
{
t->c_ispeed = speed;
return (0);
}
void
cfsetspeed(t, speed)
struct termios *t;
speed_t speed;
{
t->c_ispeed = t->c_ospeed = speed;
}
/*
* Make a pre-existing termios structure into "raw" mode: character-at-a-time
* mode with no characters interpreted, 8-bit data path.
*/
void
cfmakeraw(t)
struct termios *t;
{
t->c_iflag &=
~(IMAXBEL|IXOFF|INPCK|BRKINT|PARMRK|ISTRIP|INLCR|IGNCR|ICRNL|IXON|IGNPAR);
t->c_iflag |= IGNBRK;
t->c_oflag &= ~OPOST;
t->c_lflag &=
~(ECHO|ECHOE|ECHOK|ECHONL|ICANON|ISIG|IEXTEN|NOFLSH|TOSTOP|PENDIN);
t->c_cflag &= ~(CSIZE|PARENB);
t->c_cflag |= CS8|CREAD;
t->c_cc[VMIN] = 1;
t->c_cc[VTIME] = 0;
}
int
tcsendbreak(fd, len)
int fd, len;
{
struct timeval sleepytime;
sleepytime.tv_sec = 0;
sleepytime.tv_usec = 400000;
if (ioctl(fd, TIOCSBRK, 0) == -1)
return (-1);
(void)select(0, 0, 0, 0, &sleepytime);
if (ioctl(fd, TIOCCBRK, 0) == -1)
return (-1);
return (0);
}
int
tcdrain(fd)
int fd;
{
return (ioctl(fd, TIOCDRAIN, 0));
}
int
tcflush(fd, which)
int fd, which;
{
int com;
switch (which) {
case TCIFLUSH:
com = FREAD;
break;
case TCOFLUSH:
com = FWRITE;
break;
case TCIOFLUSH:
com = FREAD | FWRITE;
break;
default:
errno = EINVAL;
return (-1);
}
return (ioctl(fd, TIOCFLUSH, &com));
}
#define _POSIX_VDISABLE 0
int
tcflow(fd, action)
int fd, action;
{
struct termios term;
u_char c;
switch (action) {
case TCOOFF:
return (ioctl(fd, TIOCSTOP, 0));
case TCOON:
return (ioctl(fd, TIOCSTART, 0));
case TCION:
case TCIOFF:
if (tcgetattr(fd, &term) == -1)
return (-1);
c = term.c_cc[action == TCIOFF ? VSTOP : VSTART];
if (c != _POSIX_VDISABLE && write(fd, &c, sizeof(c)) == -1)
return (-1);
return (0);
default:
errno = EINVAL;
return (-1);
}
/* NOTREACHED */
}
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Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Rebinding CTRL for Emacs
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From: Jonathan Harris <jhar@tardis.ed.ac.uk>
Date: 06 Aug 1998 17:14:39 +0100
Message-ID: <usoja5bps.fsf@tardis.ed.ac.uk>
"Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> writes:
> PS: Carl Edman's Emacs-for-NEXTSTEP was a superior generalization of the
> emacs source tree to remove X-window-system functionality out of the core,
> and provide a portable window-system abstraction layer that any particular
> window-system would then bind to.
>
> If his modifications had been adapted, the work to make a version of emacs
> that worked well under Microsoft Windows would have been cleaner, faster, and
> much easier to implement. And this would also have been true for other
> window-system aware ports, say for BeOS, or MacOS, or others. It's a shame.
I don't want to reopen old arguments, but XEmacs uses an abstraction layer
exactly of the kind that you describe. I believe that disagreements about
abstraction were part of the reason that XEmacs split off in the first
place.
The display-related parts of the XEmacs mswindows port were pretty easy to
do because of the presence of this abstraction. The subprocess and
networking parts of the port were a lot harder, partly because the
abstraction layer in XEmacs was less well developed in this area, but
mostly because of the inherent weirdness of the win32 API in this area
(and despite having Geoff Voelker's NTEmacs to peek at).
Jonathan.
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From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for Black version of TCL8.1
Date: 6 Aug 1998 17:23:26 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <6qcoqe$c9b$1@news.spacelab.net>
References: <35C7FBF6.58A6DFDE@jove.acs.unt.edu> <6q9unp$6ua$3@news.spacelab.net> <35C8BB52.37DD6F04@jove.acs.unt.edu>
"Michael A. Thompson" <mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> wrote:
>I ran into some problems at the link stage.... but I am building
>gcc2.8.1 so maybe it will be fixed when I try it again...
If you could post (or email) the link errors, I might be able to help
more....
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: customizing NEXTSTEP desktop?
Date: 6 Aug 1998 14:12:30 GMT
Organization: Idiom Communications
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Cc: parnaby@macconnect.com
Jeff Parnaby may or may not have said:
-> Is there an app available that allows for the desktop (workspace)
-> pattern in NEXTSTEP to be customized? If so, what is the name of it,
-> and is it available at the peak archive?
You want Fiend.app. Or, if you want something simpler, just go to
/NextDeveloper/Examples/BackSpace.app.
-jcr
--
"Although UNIX is more reliable, NT may become more reliable with time"
- Ron Redman, deputy technical director of the Fleet Introduction
Division of the Aegis Program Executive Office, US Navy.
Where is the line between mere incompetence and actual treason? -jcr
From: jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreader app for YB/terminal?
Date: 6 Aug 1998 14:14:46 GMT
Organization: Idiom Communications
Message-ID: <6qcdom$2eb$3@news.idiom.com>
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John Moreno may or may not have said:
-> Justin McKillican <someguy@netcom.ca> wrote:
->
-> > Any newsreader apps at all for rhapsody in YB or terminal? i tried
-> > compiling a few, but had no luck..
->
-> Check out <http://www.newsreaders.com> and look around.
Go get the RadicalNews beta, from www.radical.com.
--
"Although UNIX is more reliable, NT may become more reliable with time"
- Ron Redman, deputy technical director of the Fleet Introduction
Division of the Aegis Program Executive Office, US Navy.
Where is the line between mere incompetence and actual treason? -jcr
From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreader app for YB/terminal?
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:30:45 -0400
Organization: phenix@interpath.com
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John C. Randolph <jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com> wrote:
> John Moreno may or may not have said:
> -> Justin McKillican <someguy@netcom.ca> wrote:
> ->
> -> > Any newsreader apps at all for rhapsody in YB or terminal? i tried
> -> > compiling a few, but had no luck..
> ->
> -> Check out <http://www.newsreaders.com> and look around.
>
> Go get the RadicalNews beta, from www.radical.com.
The newsreaders site has a link to radicalnews as well as ones for
alexandra, and newsflash - the others may not currently have a rhapsody
or yb port, but it's still a better starting point (for one thing he
could see about getting other unix programs there).
> --
Please add a space after that last dash, it's dash dash space for a
proper sigdash.
--
John Moreno
From: Michel Coste <nospam@micmac.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Openstep via Virtual PC on G3 PowerBooks?
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 16:03:11 GMT
Organization: MiCMAC
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This was written in comp.sys.next.software
(<B1B5B25A-2408D3@193.155.171.219>) by "Peter Baral":
>
> OS 4.2 works perfectly, but _slow_ (on a PowerMac 8600/200).
Has someone tried that on the new G3 PowerBooks (WallStreet)?
250 especially...
=;) =;) =;) =;) =;)
mc
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Subject: now purchasing model released photography 30678
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Date: Thursday, 06 Aug 1998 17:30:30 -0600
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From: Kari L Beischer <kari@gti.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTMail Crashing -- help!
Date: 7 Aug 1998 02:00:18 GMT
Organization: http://www.supernews.com, The World's Usenet: Discussions Start Here
Message-ID: <6qdn3i$9l2$1@supernews.com>
I have a strange problem...
When I try to invoke my mail (NeXTSTeP 4.2) it executes... the windows all
come up.. the pin wheel turns... and then it closes ):
If I take the enhanced mail bundle out of LocalLibrary/Mail, It works but
it is not the same ):
The only thing that I can think of that might have effected it is that I
was writing a shell script yesterday and playing with a sed command that
removes the header and trailer from some eps files.
I could only test the shell by executing the eps files, which in turn,
cause the Console to tell me that I had created some postscript errors.
I have stopped all progress on this shell :)
Also... I have dl'd all the bundles and reinstalled the Enhanced Mail
Bundle but it is still crashing... ):
Any suggestions or help of what to try next would be gratefully
appreciated.
Thanks... Kari Beischer
--
Thanks, Kari Beischer
____________________________________________________________________
AT&T ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK
Systems mailto:kari@gti.net
Development to want is natural, to need is negotiable...
____________________________________________________________________
Opinions expressed are mine, not those of my employer...
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What happened to Otherwise ?
Date: 6 Aug 1998 19:11:30 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6qdnoi$b9s@slip.net>
I'd like to purchase a license to ScreenCast
but the telephone numbers in the README file
are no longer valid.
Does anyone know who I might E-mail to
purchase a license?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: chriskauffman@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Loading Rhapsody to Drive with FAT & NTFS Partitions
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 02:20:12 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6qdo8s$g85$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Has anyone had luck installing Rhapsody DR2 to a drive with existing FAT and
NTFS partitions?
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: customizing NEXTSTEP desktop?
Date: 6 Aug 1998 22:10:52 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6qe28s$pin@slip.net>
References: <35C8F873.F988AD0@macconnect.com> <6qcdke$2eb$2@news.idiom.com>
I like AltDock.app. It gives you a workspace
like set of icons on the left side of the monitor.
If you want some wall paper use ToyViewer for that.
Emmett
>-> Is there an app available that allows for the desktop (workspace)
>-> pattern in NEXTSTEP to be customized? If so, what is the name of it,
>-> and is it available at the peak archive?
>
From: "Jean-Francois ROHMER" <JeanFrancoisROHMER@csi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help : WriteNow -> Word
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:13:05 +0200
Message-ID: <6qecs8$5a6$1@news4.isdnet.net>
Hello,
I'm looking for a software converting
WriteNow files to Word files
Thanks
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Subject: Re: customizing NEXTSTEP desktop?
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There's also LiftOff.app, an older app that still works with OS 4.2.
LiftOff.app's icon is a SpaceShuttle; when you double click on the icon (once
LiftOff is running), the icon expands horizontally to show all the icon's
you've "stored" in it, thus expanding your dock. There's a pseudo-help with
it; I found it best to use Fileviewer in the Icon mode (in Workspace Manager
menu, View-->Icon) for loading the LiftOff icon with icons for other apps.
I placed LiftOff's icon on my dock and set Workspace Manager preferences to
launch it on login. You can also set apps with icons in LiftOff to launch
when LiftOff does.
It should still be somewhere on peak.
--
Please respond to (slight mods needed to address):
jpmeia (@ ) ix.netcom.com
NeXTMail/MIME welcome
Message-ID: <35CAFFBF.2B14@his.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 08:23:13 -0500
From: Royce Priem <priem@his.com>
Organization: self
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Subject: Daydream Hack
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Does anyone know of a code hack to increase the maximum file size for
Daydream files to go excess of the 256Meg limit? Having multiple HDs on
the Daydream desktop is bothersome, and with larger hard drives and the
retirement of ODs, the limitation is no longer a necessity. I have also
tried Mac formatted HDs hanging off the unit, and NeXTstep recognizes
it, but I couldn't get Daydream to see it.
Thanks in advance,
Royce
From: Frederic Foucault <ff48@columbia.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: customizing NEXTSTEP desktop?
Date: 7 Aug 1998 13:22:56 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <6qev3g$g7f$2@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
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In <35C8F873.F988AD0@macconnect.com> Jeff Parnaby wrote:
> Is there an app available that allows for the desktop (workspace)
> pattern in NEXTSTEP to be customized? If so, what is the name of it,
> and is it available at the peak archive?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
You can use ToyViewer v2.6 to modify the desktop pattern. Images can be
displayed as a wallpaper in the background.You can find it at ftp.peak.org.
Sincerely,
--
Frederic Foucault, Ph.D. Department of Genetics and Development
Phone: (212) 305-1734 College of Physicians & Surgeons hhsc1606
FAX: (212) 923-2090 Columbia University 701 West 168th Street
Email : ff48@columbia.edu New York, NY 10032
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From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help : WriteNow -> Word
Date: 7 Aug 1998 14:52:24 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <6qf4b8$980@shelob.afs.com>
References: <6qecs8$5a6$1@news4.isdnet.net>
"Jean-Francois ROHMER" <JeanFrancoisROHMER@csi.com> writes
> I'm looking for a software converting
> WriteNow files to Word files
If you still have WriteNow, it came with an RTF exporter. Then you can
read the RTF into Word.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "We're in the land of the blind,
Visionary Ophthalmologist | selling working eyeballs, and they
Anderson Financial Systems | balk at the choice of color." -- Tony
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | Lovell, on Mac user reactions to NeXT
From: Frederic Foucault <ff48@columbia.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Daydream Hack
Date: 7 Aug 1998 13:14:39 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
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In <35CAFFBF.2B14@his.com> Royce Priem wrote:
> Does anyone know of a code hack to increase the maximum file size for
> Daydream files to go excess of the 256Meg limit? Having multiple HDs on
> the Daydream desktop is bothersome, and with larger hard drives and the
> retirement of ODs, the limitation is no longer a necessity. I have also
> tried Mac formatted HDs hanging off the unit, and NeXTstep recognizes
> it, but I couldn't get Daydream to see it.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> Royce
>
Did you try with a Iomega jazz or a Syquest Syjet hook up to your NeXT. You
can use a 1.5 Gb Mac formatted cartridge. It worke great for me
A few question:
Did you install 7.5.5 or 7.6 ?
How can I modify the color bit depth to 256 colors/pixel ?
What netscape navigator are you using ?
Can you use Appletalk ?
Sincerely,
--
Frederic Foucault, Ph.D. Department of Genetics and Development
Phone: (212) 305-1734 College of Physicians & Surgeons hhsc1606
FAX: (212) 923-2090 Columbia University 701 West 168th Street
Email : ff48@columbia.edu New York, NY 10032
From: Christian Jensen <cejensen@winternet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: 7 Aug 1998 16:35:38 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <6qfacq$ptq$1@blackice.winternet.com>
References: <6q5s9n$gch@news.acns.nwu.edu> <6q7e6d$jp1@slip.net>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Aug 1998 16:35:38 GMT
emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote:
>David A.Johnson <daj@nwu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>I recently heard that TjL aka nospamnospamnospam....... (infamous monitor
of
>>Peak and Peanuts) will be taking a leave of absence. I'd like to extend my
>>personal thank's for his continual help and references.
>>
> I'll second that.
>
I'll third it.
Thanks for all the help, Tim!
--Chris
**************************
Chris Jensen
cejensen@winternet.com
MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger."
--Mark Twain
From: Eric Bloom <eric_bloom@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pixel Magician diskette serial numbers
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 10:36:06 -0700
Organization: Bacchus, Inc.
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<35C4EFA7.358F6820@mindspring.com> <6q4lk9$ef9$1@news12.ispnews.com>
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Correction:
We are NOT putting Pixel Magician and Image Agent in the public domain, only
giving away
a FREE 1-user network floating license.
Eric Bloom
Bacchus, Inc.
eric@bacchus.com
http://www.bacchus.com/
gregor@visuallink.com wrote:
> In <6q4t96$evb$2@lwnws01.ne.highway1.com> John Kheit wrote:
> > BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> > > Any suggestions?
> >
> > That companies not use annoying copy protection schemes tied to HD size, or
> > other temporal hardware devices. It's annoying, frustrating, and seems to
> > hurt only the buying public as the scammers will always work around.
> >
> > That being said, sorry, I paid for Pixel Magician, and after getting it to
> > work, I decided not to upgrade because of just this sort of problem. BTW,
> > the app and service itself are great. Good luck. (John now satisfied
> after
> > venting on the evils of annoying copy protection schemes :)
> >
> > -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; self expressed --
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > UCO & A S S O C I A T E S ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK
> > mailto:jkheit@uco-iplaw.com
> > http://people.ne.mediaone.net/jkheit
> > You're dangerous because you're honest...
> >
>
> I second this 1000%. I also (just) paid for an upgrade from an earlier
> version and found PM to be a major pain in the ass to get working. All these
> proprietary licensing schemes do is cause headache. I have about a dozen
> VERY expensive apps (Mind over Mail, Mathematica, PaperSight,, SoftPC, etc)
> that die with the machine it was originally licensed for and installed on.
> If some of these developers would put some of their skills and creativity
> into writing better and
> more elegant code instead of worrying to death that someone will 'borrow' one
> of their programs, NeXT might not otherwise be a dying carcass (are you
> listening Brian Odlum?)
>
> Sorry about venting on you like that, but DAMN, do I feel better!! Having
> said that I have to give credit to Bacchus for having the class to put their
> product in the public domain like the amazing Lighthouse Design (thanks
> Jonathan Schwartz wherever you are)
>
> gregor
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> Never ask a man what kind of airplane he flies. If he flies a fighter, he'll
> tell you.
> If not,----well, why embarass him......
> Col. Bull Meacham- the Great Santini
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SOLVED: spellchecking while typing as in modern WinWord
Date: 7 Aug 1998 18:07:21 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6qffop$sfq$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Aug 1998 18:07:21 GMT
i have finally succeded in building a spell checking inputmanager.
download it from:
http://www.biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/~boehring/software/im.tgz
make sure that the InstantSpelling directory is located in the InputManagers
subdirectory of your Library directory. restart the applications and have a
look at the edit menu.
consider it experimental (i have tested it only in TextEdit.app) and have
fun.
standard disclaimer appies, but feedback is allways wellcome,
daniel
From: patw@proserv.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: !!! Announcing an important information resource The Meta-List
Date: 7 Aug 1998 15:44:53 GMT
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Hi! I posted this using an unregistered copy of Newsgroup AutoPoster PRO!
See a new site on the CAIT Home Page geared towards meeting the needs of the Information
Systems Specialist.
INFORMATION SYSTEMS META-LIST
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Any additions or recomendations to the Information Systems Meta-List are greatly appreciated.
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From: pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is OS User compatible with NS developer?
Date: 7 Aug 1998 21:25:31 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <6qfrcb$ltg@lace.colorado.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: pb
I am currently running NS 3.3 User with 3.2 Developer, and am
considering upgrading to OS 4.2. (1) Is NS developer compatible with
OS user? (2) Is there any reason that I would prefer 3.2 D over 4.2 D,
if the answer to (1) is "yes"?
Thanks in advance.
PB Schechter
pb@colorado.edu
From: toneloc@ix.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: Is Intuitive3D still availiable?
Date: 8 Aug 1998 01:34:03 GMT
Organization: ICGNetcom
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Q: Is Intuitive3D still availiable?
From: droleary@subsume.com (Doc O'Leary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bluebox -> Dos Card->Win95/WinNT?
Date: 8 Aug 1998 00:53:36 GMT
Organization: Subsume Technologies, Inc.
Message-ID: <6qg7ig$pvd$1@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
References: <6pva96$6g4@nnrp3.farm.idt.net>
On 1 Aug 1998 14:55:34 GMT, echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net
--delete NOSPAM <echo4@NOSPAM.idt.net--deleteNOSPAM> wrote:
>In other world: Rhapsody Mach -> Bluebox/running Bluebox application -> dos
>card -> NT/95?
Is VirtualPC not fast enough for you? It is for me, and I have already
written Connectix and asked for a Rhapsody version, or at least a version
that runs under the Blue Box. I suggest you do the same.
PC cards just don't seem to be worth the money; buying a PC is usually
cheaper.
--
Copyright 1998 by Doc O'Leary.
Author of the wildly unsuccessful "DOS and Windows for People Who
Still Have a Clue"
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: App to put transparent backgrounds on jpg and gif
Date: 7 Aug 1998 23:41:08 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6qgru4$s83@slip.net>
Hi,
Is there a NeXTStep App which
will put transparent backgrounds
on a jpg and gif?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: DAVID HOUTS <dhouts@haywire.csuhayward.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 09:21:54 -0700
Organization: CSUnet
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To: Christian Jensen <cejensen@winternet.com>
In-Reply-To: <6qfacq$ptq$1@blackice.winternet.com>
Thank you Tim, for the wit & wisdom so generously shared. Your
enthusiasm for NS was so obviously sincere, and infectious.
Congrats & good Luck
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Is Intuitive3D still availiable?
Date: 8 Aug 1998 23:47:44 GMT
Organization: IDT (Best News In The World)
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In <6qg9ub$6i7@sjx-ixn1.ix.netcom.com> toneloc@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> Q: Is Intuitive3D still availiable?
>
>
SoildThinking is still avaliable, I think.
Checkout http://www.gestel.com
I think it considered by many as the best 3D rendered in the NeXT world.
Good LucK.
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Subject: Inset Editor & FrameMaker3.2?
Date: 8 Aug 1998 23:51:35 GMT
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I am trying to figure out how to change or add into the inset editor panel.
I want to add,
EquationBuilder.app. According to the help info pages, Equation Builder is
supported in FrameMaker. I couldn't find the instructions on the FrameMaker
side of things to edit the Inset Editor panel. Any info would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks in Advance.
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From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bluebox -> Dos Card->Win95/WinNT?
Date: 9 Aug 1998 14:33:04 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <6qkbv0$og3$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
References: <6pva96$6g4@nnrp3.farm.idt.net> <6qg7ig$pvd$1@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
Doc O'Leary (droleary@subsume.com) wrote:
: Is VirtualPC not fast enough for you? It is for me, and I have already
: written Connectix and asked for a Rhapsody version, or at least a version
: that runs under the Blue Box. I suggest you do the same.
Unfortunately, I got from WWDC98 that VirtualPC won't work in the blue box
because of the way it patches the MacOS (which doesn't work in BB).
: PC cards just don't seem to be worth the money; buying a PC is usually
: cheaper.
Except if you consider the cost of monitors, and the space requirements.
You could of course, run an AB swtich between the two machines to share a
monitor.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | Computers are useless.
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | They can only give you answers.
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | -Pablo Picasso
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <6522902030423@digifix.com>
Date: 9 Aug 1998 03:48:30 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <11760902635220@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mailclients for windows
Date: 10 Aug 1998 19:29:54 GMT
Organization: private
Message-ID: <6qnhni$1b8@luck.shnet.org>
Hi,
can someone suggest a good graphical mail client for Windows NT? It should
interpret MIME similar to NeXT's Mail.app and be independent from OPENSTEP
unlike PopOver (which I like). POP3 ability would be usefull, too.
I know and learned to hate MS-Exchange. A lot of people seem to use the mail
client from Netscape nowadays, but I don't like these big over-integrated
solutions. It encurages to compose html-mails and isn't MIME compatible to
Mail.app. Are there other useable alternatives?
I know this is no Windows group, but I need your good taste :-).
Thanks,
Christian
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstation Network Performance
Date: 10 Aug 1998 14:11:46 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <6qmv32$cm$1@news.spacelab.net>
References: <35CD4CA5.3BC98722@home.com>
msms <msms@home.com> wrote:
>My Next machine seems to have slow Networking performance,
>relative to other machines. Often with my Mac on my cable
>modem I get over 100k/sec downloads (have gotton up to
>300+k/sec). But on the Next machine the peak download
>speed I've gotten is 28k/sec, using ftp from the command
>line and OmniWeb. While my Mac is a much faster machine
>I would like to think the Next machine can handle over
>28k a second (what would be the point of having a 10BT
>port other than compatibility?).
NeXT hardware can do ethernet up to ~800K/s-- I got 500-odd K/s just now
across a busy net [Monday morning email-from-weekend reading]. So, yeah--
there's a problem. :-)
What's netstat look like, and vm_stat?
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: app to plot any function
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:31:53 +0200
Organization: EUnet Austria
Message-ID: <35CFE559.3A4F@softlab.co.at>
References: <6qolg9$14o$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
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parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr wrote:
>
> What application can plot arbitrary function (2D, better if 3D is available)?
>
> I know that Mathematica can do it, but I want freeware.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
> http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum
I think GnuPlot (on the archives) should do what you want
--
Maximilian Weißböck | softlab | phone: +43 1 9829400 21
Moeringgasse 20 | A - 1150 Wien | email: wei@softlab.co.at
From: Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Nextstation Memory problem...
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:36:28 +0200
Organization: EUnet Austria
Message-ID: <35CFE66C.6088@softlab.co.at>
References: <35CF9701.539154F6@home.com>
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msms wrote:
>
> I must be missing something...
>
> I just ordered four 16MB non-parity 72-pin SIMMS for my
> NeXTstation. I replaced them with my eight 4MB SIMMS,
> and the machine wouldn't boot. I tried mixing them
> around seeing if a module was bad, no luck.
>
> I then stuck in four 4MB SIMMs and two 16MB SIMMS and
> using monitor I examined my memory configuration. It
> didn't recognize the 16MB SIMMs.
>
> It is unlike from this vendor that four SIMM modules
> would be bad, there must be something else...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> -- John
The stations with 8 simm sockets do not support bigger
simms's than 4MB (max 32MB, was a lot at 1991 when they were built).
Max
Message-ID: <35CF9701.539154F6@home.com>
From: msms <msms@home.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Nextstation Memory problem...
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 00:56:07 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:56:07 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
I must be missing something...
I just ordered four 16MB non-parity 72-pin SIMMS for my
NeXTstation. I replaced them with my eight 4MB SIMMS,
and the machine wouldn't boot. I tried mixing them
around seeing if a module was bad, no luck.
I then stuck in four 4MB SIMMs and two 16MB SIMMS and
using monitor I examined my memory configuration. It
didn't recognize the 16MB SIMMs.
It is unlike from this vendor that four SIMM modules
would be bad, there must be something else...
Any ideas?
-- John
Message-ID: <35CF9783.D25FDA53@home.com>
From: msms <msms@home.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Telnet problem...
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 00:58:14 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:58:14 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
Twice now over a few months, I've telnetted into my
Next machine from NCSA Telnet for the MacOS and as
soon as it logs me in the connection is dropped. One
time, I was able to correct the problem by telnetting
in via Rhapsody, then it was fine.
Anyone experience similar problems?
-- John
From: "Susan Rikkert" <beo@euronet.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SYSTEM COMMANDER PARTITON PROBLEM (HELP HELP HELP)
Date: 11 Aug 1998 07:59:28 GMT
Organization: Beo B.V.
Message-ID: <01bdc4fe$1916bde0$056464c0@PC9.beo.nl>
i have a problem with the program system commander
maybe you can help me?????
the problem is it will not see my second HD (Hard disk)
i have tried just about everything from reinstalling till PQ Magic
The strange thing is that wen i uninstall the program, windows does see my
second HD, but when i reinstall it again it disapears again.
HELP HELP HELP HELP....
thank you
mike prins
From: parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: app to plot any function
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 05:40:25 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6qolg9$14o$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
What application can plot arbitrary function (2D, better if 3D is available)?
I know that Mathematica can do it, but I want freeware.
Thanks in advance.
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: 10 Aug 1998 17:38:50 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <6qnb7a$bjf$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <6q5s9n$gch@news.acns.nwu.edu> <6q7vp6$hsf$1@news.digifix.com>
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Cc: sanguish@digifix.com
In <6q7vp6$hsf$1@news.digifix.com> Scott Anguish wrote:
> On 08/03/98, David A.Johnson wrote:
> >
> >I recently heard that TjL aka nospamnospamnospam....... (infamous
> monitor of
> >Peak and Peanuts) will be taking a leave of absence. I'd like to
> extend my
> >personal thank's for his continual help and references.
> >
> >Tim, What happened did you finally decide to take a real job?
>
>
> Actually, Tim finally graduated from the seminary and will be
> working with troubled kids in Florida (Clearwater I think).
>
> Yeah, he'll definately be missed. Hopefully he'll be back
> online soon. Last I heard he wasn't sure what the connectivity
> situation would be (he's had a Cable Modem for the last 6 months or
> so, so he's REALLY spoiled) and what his time situation was going to
> be.
>
> In the meantime, Rex Dieter has stepped up to help with the
> peak archive, and between us we should still be able to file stuff
> away promptly. :-)
I have to chime in too. Even though by the numerous and varied
posts Tim made I often thought he was posting for others - and got
annoyed a number of times.
Tim was forgiving, patient, and responsive..
He will be missed. Hopefully I'll be able to get into swing on
the NeXT stuff on www.channelu.com after I figure out what to do with
my commentary to Don Yacktman's
"A Modest Proposal" on OpenMach
I'm just winding down from a weekend rush to the AntCam since
someone posted the AntCam to www.slashdot.org as a fun
thing to do "On a Lazy Sunday Afternoon". Nothing like
getting 30K hits on your ISDN line in a day after getting 500/day.
There is a lot to do to make some very good NeXT pages for
the community. If anyone is interested in helping out they
can drop me a line
And a hearty Three cheers for Tim, and best wishes
on his next job.
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
spammers works also :)
Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining,
Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.)
From: moetteli@citeu.unige.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Smalltalk on OS4.2 or Rhapsody
Date: 11 Aug 1998 11:14:40 GMT
Organization: University of Geneva
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6qp930$sfm@uni2f.unige.ch>
Hi
I found this NSSmalltalk 1.2Alpha5, which has been prepared on NS3.3. Unfortunately it doesn't compile any more under OS4.2 or R.
Does anybody use Smalltalk under OS4.2 or Rhapsody? Has anybody a version, that compiles or runs under OS4.2/R? Or would it make sense to ask somebody for the binaries in order to install them und er OS4.2?
Thanks for any advice!
Phil
From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mailclients for windows
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:04:10 -0400
Organization: phenix@interpath.com
Message-ID: <1ddlcwo.bz5ccsguq51cN@roxboro0-028.dyn.interpath.net>
References: <6qnhni$1b8@luck.shnet.org>
?'D1cB]L9V=\OS(\8S,5
Mail-Copies-To: nobody
Christian Pekeler <pekeler@luck.shnet.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> can someone suggest a good graphical mail client for Windows NT? It should
> interpret MIME similar to NeXT's Mail.app and be independent from OPENSTEP
> unlike PopOver (which I like). POP3 ability would be usefull, too.
> I know and learned to hate MS-Exchange. A lot of people seem to use the mail
> client from Netscape nowadays, but I don't like these big over-integrated
> solutions. It encurages to compose html-mails and isn't MIME compatible to
> Mail.app. Are there other useable alternatives?
> I know this is no Windows group, but I need your good taste :-).
I'd suggest that you go to <http://www.emailman.com> and look around.
--
John Moreno
From: nurban@crib.corepower.com (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Smalltalk on OS4.2 or Rhapsody
Date: 11 Aug 1998 10:45:36 -0400
Organization: Data Systems Consulting, Inc.
Message-ID: <6qpleg$9bc$1@crib.corepower.com>
References: <6qp930$sfm@uni2f.unige.ch>
In article <6qp930$sfm@uni2f.unige.ch>, moetteli@citeu.unige.ch wrote:
> I found this NSSmalltalk 1.2Alpha5, which has been prepared on NS3.3.
> Unfortunately it doesn't compile any more under OS4.2 or R.
I built GNU Smalltalk for 4.0 or 4.1.. it compiled fine. It ought
to work under 4.2 or Rhapsody. Don't know if it's what you're looking
for, though.
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Nextstation Memory problem...
Date: 11 Aug 1998 16:35:18 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
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Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at> wrote:
>msms wrote:
>> I must be missing something...
>>
>> I just ordered four 16MB non-parity 72-pin SIMMS for my
>> NeXTstation. I replaced them with my eight 4MB SIMMS,
>> and the machine wouldn't boot. I tried mixing them
>> around seeing if a module was bad, no luck.
>>
>> I then stuck in four 4MB SIMMs and two 16MB SIMMS and
>> using monitor I examined my memory configuration. It
>> didn't recognize the 16MB SIMMs.
[ ... ]
>The stations with 8 simm sockets do not support bigger
>simms's than 4MB (max 32MB, was a lot at 1991 when they were built).
Right. Also, those are 30-pin SIMM's, not 72-pin, and they need to be
installed in banks of four. The machines with four 72-pin slots can take up
to 128 MB with 32MB SIMM's in banks of two.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
"Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: msms <msms@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextstation Memory problem...
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 23:54:24 -0500
Organization: Telalink Corporation, Nashville, TN, USA
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To: wei@softlab.co.at
Thanks for the reply.
I have a PDF document from when NeXT was NeXT on the
Color NeXTstation. It says in the document that the
machine can support 128MB once 16MB modules were
available. It even talks about 32MB modules as well.
However, I just tested out this RAM in a Mac and it
worked fine, so that obviously could be the answer.
Do you know this for certain?
-- John
------------
>
> The stations with 8 simm sockets do not support bigger
> simms's than 4MB (max 32MB, was a lot at 1991 when they were built).
>
> Max
From: msms <msms@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextstation Memory problem...
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 00:13:48 -0500
Organization: Telalink Corporation, Nashville, TN, USA
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To: wei@softlab.co.at
I found the answer I think somewhere on the web.
Apparently, the older designed Color NeXTstations
only supported up to 4MB modules, and anyone with
a serial number above ABB0026300 apparently are able
to support up to 32MB modules.
-- John
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From: "M. Ahsan Farooqi" <afarooqi@home.com>
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Subject: Demo copy of WebObjects 3.5 /NT ?
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I am a student and would like to get an academic copy of WebObjects 3.5
for nt. can anyone spare on or is anyone willing to sell theirs. Thanks.
p.s I can't afford the acadamic bundle because they do not sell
individual products, they sell as a bundle and the price is steep for
that.
thanks
afarooqi@home.com
Message-ID: <3D572B04.1B9E2495@home.com>
From: "M. Ahsan Farooqi" <afarooqi@home.com>
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Subject: Demo copy of WebObjects 3.5 /NT ?
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 03:31:12 GMT
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I am a student and would like to get an academic copy of WebObjects 3.5
for nt. can anyone spare on or is anyone willing to sell theirs. Thanks.
p.s I can't afford the acadamic bundle because they do not sell
individual products, they sell as a bundle and the price is steep for
that.
thanks
afarooqi@home.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Demo copy of WebObjects 3.5 /NT ?
Date: 12 Aug 1998 03:37:39 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
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On 08/11/98, "M. Ahsan Farooqi" wrote:
>I am a student and would like to get an academic copy of WebObjects
3.5
>for nt. can anyone spare on or is anyone willing to sell theirs.
Thanks.
>
>p.s I can't afford the acadamic bundle because they do not sell
>individual products, they sell as a bundle and the price is steep for
>that.
$99 is steep for WebObjects 3.5 Academic?
Wow... thats only what, two months of Cable modem access?
--
Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com>
Stepwise - OpenStep/Rhapsody Information
<URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
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From: "M. Ahsan Farooqi" <afarooqi@home.com>
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I am a student and would like to get an academic copy of WebObjects 3.5
for nt. can anyone spare on or is anyone willing to sell theirs. Thanks.
p.s I can't afford the acadamic bundle because they do not sell
individual products, they sell as a bundle and the price is steep for
that.
thanks
afarooqi@home.com
From: ldubois@syndetics.be (Luc Dubois)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Smalltalk on OS4.2 or Rhapsody
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:23:45 +0200
Organization: Syndetics Research
Message-ID: <1ddn2bc.1mdaf821idfpdcN@pool011-185.innet.be>
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6y;2{p$3:Q{f)+[45VL#[z,c=GA.ae&Q!6j::}[1X*>=jC02F@kRb_J|,]SOkLL3kw\G
ojdWd4twL1Kj<zil7^%+jo]28Gi]g~(EzJd=t3Q
<moetteli@citeu.unige.ch> wrote:
> I found this NSSmalltalk 1.2Alpha5, which has been prepared on NS3.3.
> Unfortunately it doesn't compile any more under OS4.2 or R. Does anybody
> use Smalltalk under OS4.2 or Rhapsody? Has anybody a version, that
> compiles or runs under OS4.2/R? Or would it make sense to ask somebody for
> the binaries in order to install them und er OS4.2?
You might find what you're looking for at:
<http://www.create.ucsb.edu/squeak/>
It's a portable Smalltalk system with a very active mailing list (where
Ted Kaehler, Dan Ingalls and Alan Kay a.o. hang out). I don't know about
OS4.2 but those involved in the project claim it's very easy to port
this system to any platform.
Good luck,
Luc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:09:08 +0100
Message-ID: <35d18755.186871587@news.stnc.co.uk>
From: neil@drempel.org.uk (Neil Brewitt)
Subject: Framemaker 3.2
Organization: Drempel Music
Hi,
This was actually a (small) thread here a while ago, but it didn't
produce any results, so here goes again:
Does anybody know how I can aqcuire an unlock code for Framemaker 3.2
for NeXTSTEP? If not, does anybody have any idea who I can contact
with regard to getting one? I would imagine that just emailing Adobe
would needlessly expand their bit-bucket.
Framemaker looks pretty cool, but it's a bummer that I can't actually
save anything. Does anywhere actually still sell the next step
version?
Cheers,
Neil.
From: Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Nextstation Memory problem...
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:54:47 +0200
Organization: EUnet Austria
Message-ID: <35D19097.28F6@softlab.co.at>
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To: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Charles W. Swiger wrote:
>
> Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at> wrote:
> [ ... ]
> >The stations with 8 simm sockets do not support bigger
> >simms's than 4MB (max 32MB, was a lot at 1991 when they were built).
>
> Right. Also, those are 30-pin SIMM's, not 72-pin, and they need to be
> installed in banks of four. The machines with four 72-pin slots can take up
> to 128 MB with 32MB SIMM's in banks of two.
Wrong ;-) Stations never had 30 pin SIMM's, only cubes. Needed
to be installed in banks of two.
Max
>
> -Chuck
>
> Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | standard disclaimer
> ---------------+-------------------+--------------------
> "Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible."
From: bbehrens@nfinity.com (Brian Behrens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next Dimension Video Software
Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:01:12 GMT
Message-ID: <6qsano$pdh@news.nfinity.com>
I need to find some software that will do video editing, such as cross
fades, renders, etc. Ne one know of any?
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From: matthias@:-)factum-gmbh.de (Matthias =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sch=FCrhoff)?=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Nextstation Memory problem...
Date: 12 Aug 1998 14:09:00 GMT
Organization: FACTUM Projektentwicklung und Management GmbH
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In <35D19097.28F6@softlab.co.at> Maximilian Weissboeck schrieb:
> Charles W. Swiger wrote:
> >
> > Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at> wrote:
> > [ ... ]
> > >The stations with 8 simm sockets do not support bigger
> > >simms's than 4MB (max 32MB, was a lot at 1991 when they were built).
> >
> > Right. Also, those are 30-pin SIMM's, not 72-pin, and they need to be
> > installed in banks of four. The machines with four 72-pin slots can take
up
> > to 128 MB with 32MB SIMM's in banks of two.
>
> Wrong ;-) Stations never had 30 pin SIMM's, only cubes. Needed
> to be installed in banks of two.
Wrong;-)) The non color stations (25 MHz) also had 30 pin SIMM's...
Matthias
===========================================================
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From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole)
Subject: Re: Openstep via Virtual PC on G3 PowerBooks?
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:35:58 GMT
>From: Michel Coste >Organization: MiCMAC
>Subject: Openstep via Virtual PC on G3 PowerBooks?
>Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 16:03:11 GMT
>
>
>Has someone tried that on the new G3 PowerBooks (WallStreet)?
>250 especially...
>
I finally got Openstep 4.2 to work on my G3 292Mhz powerbook. It took awhile to
get the display to function at 1024x768; in the end I used the Diamond DRAM
driver with 4MB of ram, and the resolution works fine at 256 colors.
As for the speed, I am very disappointed. I had hoped that Openstep on VPC would
be a workable solution until MacOS Server is released (assuming, of course, that
it even runs on the powerbooks). I currently have Nextstep 3.3 on a NEC 75Mhz
pentium laptop and I find it significantly faster than Openstep 4.2 via VPC on my
powerbook. The former is quite usable; the latter is frustratingly slow. THe
mouse jumps about on the screen and the machine seems to run at about 1/3 the
speed of the 75Mhz pentium. In short, the machine is probably eqiuvalent to a
fast 486. Don't expect much. [Note that Windows on VPC is a different story
altogether. It runs very fast and is extremely useable if that's what you're
looking for. I've heard comparisons such as a Pentium at around 150Mhz; this
seems plausible to me.]
Another problem is that file sharing does not work for non-Windows OS's. Thus, if
you want to move files from your Mac drives to your Openstep harddrive image, you
need to be creative. In the end, I succeeded by creating a second harddrive with
DOS format and attaching it to the Openstep image. Then when VPC is not running,
I can copy files to the second drive image, then load up Openstep, and then
access the files as a mounted DOS drive. Not very pretty, but it works. All of
this effort is wasted, to a large extent, as I will not continue with Openstep on
VPC. I'll either use my NEC laptop or invest in MachTen as an interim solution.
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Smalltalk on OS4.2 or Rhapsody
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:08:33 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
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Luc Dubois wrote:
> <moetteli@citeu.unige.ch> wrote:
> > I found this NSSmalltalk 1.2Alpha5, which has been prepared on NS3.3.
> > Unfortunately it doesn't compile any more under OS4.2 or R. Does anybody
> > use Smalltalk under OS4.2 or Rhapsody? Has anybody a version, that
> > compiles or runs under OS4.2/R? Or would it make sense to ask somebody for
> > the binaries in order to install them und er OS4.2?
>
> You might find what you're looking for at:
>
> <http://www.create.ucsb.edu/squeak/>
>
> It's a portable Smalltalk system with a very active mailing list (where
> Ted Kaehler, Dan Ingalls and Alan Kay a.o. hang out). I don't know about
> OS4.2 but those involved in the project claim it's very easy to port
> this system to any platform.
You need a running X11 environment for OS4.2 in order to compile squeak
and you will need X11 true color support too.
I've once compiled squeak for NS3.3 under Cub'X Windows, it wasn't
a problem, but on a Monostation (like mine) X11 true color mode is
only emulated wiyh Cub'X and so squeak was really slow (unusable).
On a fast color system with X11 true color support it may be quite good usable!
Well, I think that the NSSmalltalk <moetteli@citeu.unige.ch> mentioned
is the normal Gnu Smalltalk, which should compile without problems
under NS3.3 or OS4.2 and doesn't need X11. But there are some X11 goodies
also for Gnu Smalltalk available, which then allow a better handling by using a
sort
of system browser!
There are two other Smalltalk versions available for NS, an old VisualWorks 1.0
version (which I own) and a modern port of Smalltalk/X (STX). The VW1.0 is
outdated and no longer available, the STX demo version is available from the
University
of Stuttgart (see ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de or ftp.uni-stuttgart.de,
there must be a
stx subdirectory with actual versions, including one for NS).
BTW, STX also requires a NS or OW4.2 X11-server, IMHO it is the best Smalltalk
system available for NS. - STX comes from Claus Gittinger and his eXept company
see
http://www.exept.de
and is closely modelt after ParcPlace VisualWorks 2.5-3.0 !
However, the STX NS-version is AFAIK only available from the server of the
University od Stuttgart.
In general there aren't much Smalltalk versions available for OS4.2, the things
I mentioned above should
be all (?) !!!
Hope this helps,
greetings Valentino
--
Valentino Kyriakides
mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com
From: "George B. Ameer" <george1@ana.porsa.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:41:51 -0700
Message-ID: <6qsgkg$ipq$1@news0-alterdial.uu.net>
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Let me also chime in with my thanks and "God Speed"
Tj you will be sorely missed
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From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang)
Subject: Re: Framemaker 3.2
Message-ID: <ExL8J3.28z@midway.uchicago.edu>
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:57:02 GMT
In article <35d18755.186871587@news.stnc.co.uk>,
Neil Brewitt <neil@drempel.org.uk> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>This was actually a (small) thread here a while ago, but it didn't
>produce any results, so here goes again:
>
>Does anybody know how I can aqcuire an unlock code for Framemaker 3.2
>for NeXTSTEP? If not, does anybody have any idea who I can contact
>with regard to getting one? I would imagine that just emailing Adobe
>would needlessly expand their bit-bucket.
>
>Framemaker looks pretty cool, but it's a bummer that I can't actually
>save anything. Does anywhere actually still sell the next step
>version?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Neil.
>
To my best knowledge, the only way you can get a full version of the
software is to buy a used package over the net. This is commonly
considered software license transfer. Adobe/Framemaker will not be
happy with any other means to acquire the license code.
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Next Dimension Video Software
Date: 12 Aug 1998 18:24:35 GMT
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In <6qsano$pdh@news.nfinity.com> Brian Behrens wrote:
> I need to find some software that will do video editing, such as
cross
> fades, renders, etc. Ne one know of any?
>
Honestly you'd be kind of crazy to do this. The SCSI bandwidth on
the Cube is horrible, the cpu is 25 or 33Mhz 68040. I'm sure it
can be done but it would take a while for any real solid video
sequences - say 10-60 seconds. Though if
your really wanting to do animated gifs or short sequences
that could work. Everything will just be painfully slow - not
good for creative work where you have to do it again and
again - and view it @ 30fps to see what it will really look like.
Thing is the only software I know of is pretty pricy. Thinking
ScreenMachine (perhaps the editing stuff), and probably
animo which is very high priced (many K's). I'm not sure
there is anything canned.
As to doing realtime 30fps on anything except viewing the
video feed in, and sending a 640x480 image of the screen
out you can forget it. As to video effects or dual signal fades,
wipes, etc. it's not doable AFAIK.
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
spammers works also :)
Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining,
Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.)
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Subject: Re: Nextstation Memory problem...
Date: 12 Aug 1998 18:32:44 GMT
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In <6qs7ls$3vb@factum.factum-gmbh.de> Matthias Schörhoff wrote:
> In <35D19097.28F6@softlab.co.at> Maximilian Weissboeck schrieb:
> > Charles W. Swiger wrote:
> > >
> > > Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at> wrote:
> > > [ ... ]
> > > >The stations with 8 simm sockets do not support bigger
> > > >simms's than 4MB (max 32MB, was a lot at 1991 when they were
built).
> > >
> > > Right. Also, those are 30-pin SIMM's, not 72-pin, and they need
to be
> > > installed in banks of four. The machines with four 72-pin slots
can take
> up
> > > to 128 MB with 32MB SIMM's in banks of two.
> >
> > Wrong ;-) Stations never had 30 pin SIMM's, only cubes. Needed
> > to be installed in banks of two.
>
> Wrong;-)) The non color stations (25 MHz) also had 30 pin SIMM's...
>
Correct
Every station excepting the Turbo MB revision types (some of those
even had 30pin slots) Color or Mono has 8 30pin slots the rest have
72pin slots.
All 30pin slot machines take RAM in banks of 4
72 pin MB's take them in sets of 2, and ND's in sets of 4.
This should be in the FAQs.
BTW: A bit of info. Mike Paquette has informed me the ASICS
on the 25MHz stations are identical to those in the cubes
which means there are some extra address lines available
that would allow for 64M (if one can find room for the extra 8
30pin slots) on the 25Mhz stations.
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
spammers works also :)
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From: beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu (Richard Beigel)
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Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: 12 Aug 1998 18:49:36 GMT
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Tim, you've really helped me to find NeXT apps and other resources.
NeXT wouldn't have been half as fun if you hadn't been around. Thanks
for all your help.
From: Rupert <rupert.smith@span.ch>
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Subject: sharing next printer ?
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hello, is there a way to share the Nextprinter on a mixed network with Macs and NT's ?
regards
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From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty)
Subject: Re: app to plot any function
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In article <6qolg9$14o$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr> wrote:
>What application can plot arbitrary function (2D, better if 3D is available)?
>
>I know that Mathematica can do it, but I want freeware.
There is a gnuplot frontend (called amazingly Gnuplot.app) on the peak
archive. I don't like it as much as raw gnuplot, but both are flexible
packages.
Right now I am exploring NXplotNd.app (available at
http://ncmi.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu/~stevel/NXplotNd/main.html). It will do
several different plot types, but the documentation is a little spotty.
It requires Renderman so I don't know if it'll even run on 4.x machines.
It will definitely do arbitrary functions, although you may want to
preprocess some functions into datafiles.
A word of note: the version of NXplotNd on peak is an expired beta and will
not run. Go to the source mentioned above.
You might also try SciPlot.app, also available at peak. It only does 2D
plots and is really aimed at plotting datasets.
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Chris
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
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Subject: Re: app to plot any function
Date: 13 Aug 1998 03:07:05 GMT
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In article <6qolg9$14o$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr writes:
>What application can plot arbitrary function (2D, better if 3D is available)?
>I know that Mathematica can do it, but I want freeware.
NS3.3 and earlier had an example app called Graph.app with source code.
It includes a pretty good arbitrary function parser class which you can
modify and extend easily if the default set of functions is too limiting.
Take a look at:
/NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/Graph
on your machine.
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From: neil@drempel.org.uk (Neil Brewitt)
Subject: Re: Framemaker 3.2
Organization: Drempel Music
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:09:08 +0100, neil@drempel.org.uk (Neil Brewitt)
wrote:
>Does anybody know how I can aqcuire an unlock code for Framemaker 3.2
>for NeXTSTEP? If not, does anybody have any idea who I can contact
Thanks to all who replied. By far the most popular replies are "You
can't.". :) Nice one, Adobe.
Cheers,
Neil.
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:08:47 +0100
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From: neil@drempel.org.uk (Neil Brewitt)
Subject: Re: sharing next printer ?
Organization: Drempel Music
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:43:15 +0100, Rupert <rupert.smith@span.ch>
wrote:
>hello, is there a way to share the Nextprinter on a mixed network with Macs and NT's ?
Yes. Install the Adobe PS printer driver software (available as a free
download from their site) then install the NeXT 400dpi printer driver.
On the NeXT side, you probably have to make sure Netinfo is running,
then add a new printer to the NT machine as
your.next.machine:Local_Printer (or your.next.machine:lp might work).
I don't know about the Mac side of things, but presumably you can
either print directly to the NeXT (TCP/IP) or via a shared printer on
the NT machine (Micro$oft networking).
I couldn't actually get this to work at first, but it "suddenly
started working" when I set my NeXT slab to be a netinfo master using
the Simple Network Setup app (although now it hangs temporarily
looking for a net master during boot hmm....). I didn't want to do a
unix-style printcap because that's what netinfo is there to replace.
Neil.
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From: neil@drempel.org.uk (Neil Brewitt)
Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.2 OS level printer driver replacement?
Organization: Drempel Music
Hi,
Does anybody know whether it's possible to modify or replace the
internal dithering routines for the black NeXT printer? Output doesn't
really look as good as I would expect it to be, presumably to keep
processing overhead down during printing operations. The dithering is
a lot coarser than I think my printer could manage.
Thanks,
Neil.
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From: pait@lac.usp.br (Felipe M Pait)
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Subject: Re: Thank's to TjL for his constant help
Date: 13 Aug 1998 00:37:57 GMT
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Thanks from Brazil also, and best wishes!
Felipe
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From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.2 OS level printer driver replacement?
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neil@drempel.org.uk (Neil Brewitt) wrote:
> Does anybody know whether it's possible to modify or replace the
> internal dithering routines for the black NeXT printer?
Yup. One of the print driver products (Dots? eXTRAPRINT?) had a modified
print driver for the NeXT Laser Printer that used a different dithering
algorithm that was supposed to produce better results. However...
> Output doesn't really look as good as I would expect it to be, presumably
> to keep processing overhead down during printing operations. The dithering
> is a lot coarser than I think my printer could manage.
...for the most part, the default driver did a good job for most images.
Are you printing at 300 dpi instead of 400 dpi, maybe?
-Chuck
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From: moetteli@citeu.unige.ch
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Subject: Re: Smalltalk on OS4.2 or Rhapsody
Date: 13 Aug 1998 19:51:33 GMT
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In Re: Smalltalk on OS4.2 or Rhapsody comp.sys.next.software Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> writes,
> Luc Dubois wrote:
>
>> <moetteli@citeu.unige.ch> wrote:
>> > I found this NSSmalltalk 1.2Alpha5, which has been prepared on NS3.3.
>> > Unfortunately it doesn't compile any more under OS4.2 or R. Does anybody
>> > use Smalltalk under OS4.2 or Rhapsody? Has anybody a version, that
>> > compiles or runs under OS4.2/R? Or would it make sense to ask somebody for
>> > the binaries in order to install them und er OS4.2?
>>
>> You might find what you're looking for at:
>>
>> <http://www.create.ucsb.edu/squeak/>
>>
>> It's a portable Smalltalk system with a very active mailing list (where
>> Ted Kaehler, Dan Ingalls and Alan Kay a.o. hang out). I don't know about
>> OS4.2 but those involved in the project claim it's very easy to port
>> this system to any platform.
I need Smalltalk only to prepare an exam, that I soon have. Unfortunately I do not have the time to port a system.
> You need a running X11 environment for OS4.2 in order to compile squeak
> and you will need X11 true color support too.
So I need a server and the servers are payable, aren't they?
> Well, I think that the NSSmalltalk <moetteli@citeu.unige.ch> mentioned
> is the normal Gnu Smalltalk,
Yes, it is V1.2.alpha5.
> which should compile without problems
> under NS3.3 or OS4.2 and doesn't need X11.
When I try to compile the actual version (1.1.5) under OpenStep 4.2, I get the following errors:
cint.c: In function `my_putenv':
cint.c:371: warning: implicit declaration of function `putenv'
cint.c: In function `initCFuncs':
cint.c:429: `close' undeclared (first use this function)
cint.c:429: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
cint.c:429: for each function it appears in.)
cint.c:430: `read' undeclared (first use this function)
cint.c:431: `write' undeclared (first use this function)
cint.c: In function `readChar':
cint.c:484: `read' used prior to declaration
cint.c:484: warning: implicit declaration of function `read'
cint.c: In function `readUChar':
cint.c:496: `read' used prior to declaration
cint.c: In function `readShort':
cint.c:508: `read' used prior to declaration
cint.c: In function `readUShort':
cint.c:520: `read' used prior to declaration
cint.c: In function `readLong':
cint.c:532: `read' used prior to declaration
cint.c: In function `readULong':
cint.c:544: `read' used prior to declaration
cint.c: In function `readFloat':
cint.c:556: `read' used prior to declaration
cint.c: In function `readDouble':
cint.c:568: `read' used prior to declaration
cint.c: In function `writeChar':
cint.c:579: `write' used prior to declaration
cint.c:579: warning: implicit declaration of function `write'
cint.c: In function `writeShort':
cint.c:586: `write' used prior to declaration
cint.c: In function `writeLong':
cint.c:593: `write' used prior to declaration
cint.c: In function `writeFloat':
cint.c:600: `write' used prior to declaration
cint.c: In function `writeDouble':
cint.c:607: `write' used prior to declaration
*** Exit 1
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
Under Rhapsody I have the following errors:
ar cr libgst.a lib.o gst.tab.o lex.o str.o id.o tree.o byte.o interp.o comp.o sym.o dict.o oop.o save.o cint.o sysdep.o callin.o cfuncs.o
ranlib libgst.a
rm -f gst
cc -o gst -g \
main.o cfuncs.o lib/libgst.a
/usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
_tell
make: *** [gst] Error 1
Although in both cases the configure program recognices interesting values:
On OS4.2 (running on a TurboStation):
setting MACHINE_DEFINES to "NeXT", "m68k", "unix",
On R (running on a white box):
setting MACHINE_DEFINES to "NeXT", "i386", "__i386__", "unix",
Philip
From: tom@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (Tom Hageman)
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Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.2 OS level printer driver replacement?
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"Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> wrote:
> neil@drempel.org.uk (Neil Brewitt) wrote:
> > Does anybody know whether it's possible to modify or replace the
> > internal dithering routines for the black NeXT printer?
>
> Yup. One of the print driver products (Dots? eXTRAPRINT?) had a modified
> print driver for the NeXT Laser Printer that used a different dithering
> algorithm that was supposed to produce better results. However...
JetPilot. It has two additional dithering methods: Dispersed and Error
Diffusion. It also came with a free license for NeXT laserprinter.
(See http://www.ipc.de/ or http:/www.interpc.de/. It's been a while since
I've last visited there, so the usual caveats apply...)
Best regards,
Tom.
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From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher)
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tom@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (Tom Hageman) writes:
>"Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> wrote:
>> neil@drempel.org.uk (Neil Brewitt) wrote:
>> > Does anybody know whether it's possible to modify or replace the
>> > internal dithering routines for the black NeXT printer?
>>
>> Yup. One of the print driver products (Dots? eXTRAPRINT?) had a modified
>> print driver for the NeXT Laser Printer that used a different dithering
>> algorithm that was supposed to produce better results. However...
>JetPilot. It has two additional dithering methods: Dispersed and Error
>Diffusion. It also came with a free license for NeXT laserprinter.
Actually, eXTRAPRINT had an error-diffusion-based dithering algorithm
long before JetPilot. It also had a diffusion method modified to
avoid artifacts inherent in a naive implementation. Finally, it
always used 8 bits to render grayscale and dithered from there,
whereas JetPilot is, as far as I can tell, still has dither down
from a 2 bit, pre-dithered result.
Marcel, developer of eXTRAPRINT
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From: a lt e nber@nashville.com (Lee Alte nb erg)
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Subject: NXFax install and unmount failure
Date: 14 Aug 1998 10:32:49 GMT
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I installed NXFax on a Color Turbo with NEXTSTEP 3.3 pl1, and afterwards, I
could not get it to reboot or power down with a clean unmount of the
filesystem. It would hang and I'd have to bring up the NMI monitor to finish
the power-down. When it reboots, it has to go through a full fsck.
Has anyone seen (or NOT seen) this problem when NXFax is installed?
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:33:00 +0100
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From: neil@drempel.org.uk (Neil Brewitt)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.2 OS level printer driver replacement?
Organization: Drempel Music
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:27:08 +0100, "Charles W. Swiger"
<chuck@codefab.com> wrote:
>neil@drempel.org.uk (Neil Brewitt) wrote:
[printer stuff]
>...for the most part, the default driver did a good job for most images.
>Are you printing at 300 dpi instead of 400 dpi, maybe?
Well- I'm using it out of the box with a vanilla NeXTSTEP 3.2 install.
I assumed it was running at 300dpi, but maybe I'm wrong? How do I
tell?
Regarding the quality, I thought that the granularity of the dithering
resulted in larger clumps of toner than necessary to achieve a
greyscale image at 400dpi. Of course this is a layman's opinion and I
don't actually know anything about printing / dithering techniques.
Thanks for the info, anyway. :)
Neil.
From: a lt e n ber@nashville.com (Lee Alte nb erg)
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Subject: What became of OlafAM.app?
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I can find no trace of the Fax software OlafAM.app on the NeXT archives.
Anyone know where it can be found?
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Look in peanuts...
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/connectivity/protocol/
I'm using it quite happily with a SupraSonic 336V+ modem, although Olaf
will have to send you one file to replace in the appwrapper if you're
using this modem. A little playing around with sound formats if you
want the answering machine to work. I like OlafAm, it archives your
outgoing faxes with cover sheets, and also delivers faxes and voice
calls to your mailbox if you like.
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
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Subject: Re: NXFax install and unmount failure
Date: 14 Aug 1998 13:16:18 GMT
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a lt e nber@nashville.com (Lee Alte nb erg) wrote:
>I installed NXFax on a Color Turbo with NEXTSTEP 3.3 pl1, and afterwards, I
>could not get it to reboot or power down with a clean unmount of the
>filesystem. It would hang and I'd have to bring up the NMI monitor to
finish
>the power-down. When it reboots, it has to go through a full fsck.
>
>Has anyone seen (or NOT seen) this problem when NXFax is installed?
Yes. It seems that after installing NXFax, some process tries to access
the modem when you shut the system down. I could only get my machine to
perform a clean powerdown by briefly switching on the modem. I ended
up disabling the fax modem with Printer Manager, and only enabling it
for sending the occasional fax.
Without the source code, what else can you do... <shrug>
Chris
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From: a lt e n ber@nashville.com (Lee Alte nb erg)
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Subject: Re: What became of OlafAM.app?
Date: 14 Aug 1998 15:23:39 GMT
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Cc: a lt e n ber@nashville.com
I finally found OlafAM by searching www.dejanews.com. It is in unobvious
directory:
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/connectivity/protocol/OlafAM.1.0.6.NIHS.b.tar.gz
In <6r14vs$42i$1@supernews.com> Lee Alte nb erg wrote:
> I can find no trace of the Fax software OlafAM.app on the NeXT archives.
> Anyone know where it can be found?
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From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.2 OS level printer driver replacement?
Date: 14 Aug 1998 16:10:49 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
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References: <35d2a156.259064204@news.stnc.co.uk> <6qv44s$fe0$3@news.spacelab.net> <35d3f61c.346302546@news.stnc.co.uk>
neil@drempel.org.uk (Neil Brewitt) wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:27:08 +0100, "Charles W. Swiger"
>>...for the most part, the default driver did a good job for most images.
>>Are you printing at 300 dpi instead of 400 dpi, maybe?
>
>Well- I'm using it out of the box with a vanilla NeXTSTEP 3.2 install.
>I assumed it was running at 300dpi, but maybe I'm wrong? How do I
>tell?
Do a Cmd-p and look at the resolution selector.
>Regarding the quality, I thought that the granularity of the dithering
>resulted in larger clumps of toner than necessary to achieve a
>greyscale image at 400dpi.
How does text look? Maybe you've got a problem with the toner (moisture will
make the toner clump together), transfer roller, or fuser?
-Chuck
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From: "J. Penning" <J_Penning@public.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Gnuplot 3.6 on NS 3.3
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:21:59 +0200
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From: Ludger Solbach <solbach@tu-harburg.de> in
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.gnuplot
I quote the following:
-----
I don't remember the workaround to get gnuplot compiled for
NeXTStep 3.3. After make configure, compiling yields
make: *** No rule to make target `epsviewe.o',
needed by `gnuplot'. Stop.
...which is nonsense, of course, on a NeXT machine. Commen-
ting it out in OBJS, still leaves me with the linker error
ld: Undefined symbols:
_tcgetattr
_tcsetattr
Looks as if the linker misses a certain library. Anyone
solved this problem? I did it before for beta 3.36 or so,
but I can't remember how. ;-)
Ludger.
---------
He helped himself, later on he wrote:
---------
Here comes my solution for compiling gnuplot beta versions up to
pre 3.6, patchlevel beta 340 on NeXTStep 3.3 machines. The problem
is that "configure" finds termios.h, but the NeXTStep 3.3 release
notes say:
> While the termios interface defined by POSIX is not available to non-POSIX
> applications, all features of the driver can be used through the ioctl
> interface.
My workaround to get gnuplot compiled is this:
1) cd <gnuplot directory>
2) configure
3) edit config.h and comment out "#define HAVE_TERMIOS_H 1"
4) edit Makefile and find "OBJS = $(COREOBJS) epsviewe.o",
comment out "epsviewe.o"
5) make
This is probably not the most elegant way, but hey - it works.
----------
Maybe this helps (I did not try it), Joerg.
Viele Gruesse, Joerg.
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From: brian@playmedia.hr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AMP MP3 Engine: How to License its Code
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 03:28:53 GMT
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References: <someguy-3007981827590001@ott-on1-19.netcom.ca>
In article <someguy-3007981827590001@ott-on1-19.netcom.ca>,
someguy@netcom.ca (Justin McKillican) wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone could get Amp to compile for Rhapsody (mp3
> player). Or is there already a mp3 player?
>
> justin
>
AMP can be licensed from AMP/PlayMedia Systems at www.playmedia.hr .
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
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Date: 16 Aug 1998 03:48:21 GMT
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Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
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These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
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sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
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Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: John DuBois e-mail address???
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John;
Your domain, otoson.com, has disappeared from the domain name servers. I
can't get e-mail to you anymore. Could you please respond to me with a good
e-mail address?
Thanks,
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(Take the X out of the reply-to to respond)
To the newsgroup: Please accept my apologies for using the newsgroup in this
way. John has been helping me with some NeXT software stuff, and I would like
to get back to him again.
From: Marco van Hylckama Vlieg <marco@bananenbar.to.utwente.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Framemaker 3.2
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 14:48:39 +0200
Organization: TO
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Andrew Chang wrote:
>
>
> To my best knowledge, the only way you can get a full version of the
> software is to buy a used package over the net. This is commonly
> considered software license transfer. Adobe/Framemaker will not be
> happy with any other means to acquire the license code.
This is incredibly STUPID.
It's like this with a lot of NeXT software.
some companies don't even exist anymore but you still can't get the
software.
I really wonder why they don't just make it publically available. I mean,
people want to pay
for the software but companies (like Adobe in this case) apparently don't
want their money.
They ALSO don't want to give out the software.
This is really annoying as hell to me.
Marco
--
UNOX: The worst Operating System.
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From: no@spam.net (old one)
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Subject: Re: Framemaker 3.2
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 13:35:17 -0400
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In article <35D826A6.77BAE16A@bananenbar.to.utwente.nl>, Marco van
Hylckama Vlieg <marco@bananenbar.to.utwente.nl> wrote:
> Andrew Chang wrote:
> > To my best knowledge, the only way you can get a full version of the
> > software is to buy a used package over the net. This is commonly
> > considered software license transfer. Adobe/Framemaker will not be
> > happy with any other means to acquire the license code.
>
> This is incredibly STUPID.
(snip)
Actually, you also have to get Adobe's permission for the transfer.
And they might not even bother to answer your request!
If you want to email me, try jbf at frazer dot com.
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>In article <35D826A6.77BAE16A@bananenbar.to.utwente.nl>, Marco van
>Hylckama Vlieg <marco@bananenbar.to.utwente.nl> wrote:
>
>> Andrew Chang wrote:
>> > To my best knowledge, the only way you can get a full version of the
>> > software is to buy a used package over the net. This is commonly
>> > considered software license transfer. Adobe/Framemaker will not be
>> > happy with any other means to acquire the license code.
>>
>> This is incredibly STUPID.
>
>(snip)
>
>Actually, you also have to get Adobe's permission for the transfer.
>And they might not even bother to answer your request!
>
Legally this may be the case, but Adobe would certainly care less
about this.
If the seller erases the software and promises not to use it
again, then the buyer has solid ground to use the software he/she
bought....
The good software that falls in this category are WordPerfect,
FrameMaker, Co-Xist, Diagram(?), AppDraw(?), Adobe Illustrator.
You name it....
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Hi,
I have a nice NeXTcube but he dosn't boot.
Anybody know a solution?
Here is the console output:
NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66
NeXT Mach 3.3: ...
...
odc0 at 0x2112000
od0 at odc0 slave 0
od1 at odc0 slave 1
en0 at 0x2106000
en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:00:c3:bc
IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type “10MB Ethernet”
that's all, here is the system for ever hanging.
Bye now,
Stephan
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Stephan Gelhaus wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a nice NeXTcube but he dosn't boot.
> Anybody know a solution?
> Here is the console output:
>
> NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66
> NeXT Mach 3.3: ...
> ...
> odc0 at 0x2112000
> od0 at odc0 slave 0
> od1 at odc0 slave 1
> en0 at 0x2106000
> en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:00:c3:bc
> IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type “10MB Ethernet”
>
> that's all, here is the system for ever hanging.
Bring up the rom monitor (command-command-tilde) and type
"bsd" and see if the results change. If so, your system probably
mistakenly was set to boot from ethernet or optical sometime and
you should use the "p" command in the rom monitor to change the
results.
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From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Openstep via Virtual PC on G3 PowerBooks?
Date: 17 Aug 1998 15:32:04 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
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I posted this review of Openstep on VPC using a Powerbook G3 (292Mhz)
a few days ago:
I finally got Openstep 4.2 to work on my G3 292Mhz powerbook. It
took awhile to get the display to function at 1024x768; in the end I
used the Diamond DRAM driver with 4MB of ram, and the resolution
works fine at 256 colors.
As for the speed, I am very disappointed. I had hoped that Openstep
on VPC would be a workable solution until MacOS Server is released
(assuming, of course, that it even runs on the powerbooks). I
currently have Nextstep 3.3 on a NEC 75Mhz pentium laptop and I find
it significantly faster than Openstep 4.2 via VPC on my powerbook.
The former is quite usable; the latter is frustratingly slow. THe
mouse jumps about on the screen and the machine seems to run at about
1/3 the speed of the 75Mhz pentium. In short, the machine is
probably eqiuvalent to a fast 486. Don't expect much. [Note that
Windows on VPC is a different story altogether. It runs very fast
and is extremely useable if that's what you're looking for. I've
heard comparisons such as a Pentium at around 150Mhz; this
seems plausible to me.
>Michel Coste <nospam@micmac.com> replied
>This is quite disappointing! I had the hope to run a PowerBook with
>a good interface (i.e. NeXTSTEP!)... My point was to find a reason
>to buy a Mac notebook and not a pc notebook! I only hoped it was at
>least as fast as a Turbo Station since that's what I'm using right
>now! Is it? (As a fast 486 should be faster than the NeXTstation...)
>It could be ok for me...
>
>How much memory did you allocate to VPC? Do you hope some fine
>tuning would allow for a better speed? Other people out there?
I allocated the maximum amount of memory to VPC -- 64 MB (VPC will
not let you allocate more; if you try, your system won't boot or it
crashes unexpectedly). The performance is particularly irritating
with respect to the video speed. I find it too frustrating to use
and would prefer to use my old next slab (25Mhz) -- I'm not
exaggerating. The CPU may be slower on a Next slab, but the video is
smooth and updates are without delay. Perhaps some tweaking could be
done to boost performance in VPC to the point at which is would be
useable. I've already discovered that the S3 generic driver is not
quite as good as the Diamond Stealth, which is in turn not quite as
good as the #9 (1mb) driver. But these are very small differences
(perhaps just in my imagination). If you know of a way to boost
video performance, etc., please let me know and I'll try it when I
get a chance.
From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Gnuplot 3.6 on NS 3.3
Date: 18 Aug 1998 03:13:03 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft, Inc.
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In <6r32jo$iq4$1@grimsel.zurich.ibm.com> Henry Koplien wrote:
> In article <35D45616.15928161@public.uni-hamburg.de> "J. Penning"
> <J_Penning@public.uni-hamburg.de> writes:
> > ld: Undefined symbols:
> > _tcgetattr
> > _tcsetattr
> >
[deleted]
Would one of you who has succeeded in getting it compiled for m68k
plz post to the Peak Archive? Thanks.
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From: lparkyn@prosoft.com (Lyle Parkyn)
Subject: Re: What became of OlafAM.app?
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 05:36:41 GMT
Did anyone ever get a verson of OlafAM.app to work with NS 3.3 on a Sparc
5?
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From: dunham@cs.tulane.edu (Andrea Dunham)
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Subject: Re: Gnuplot 3.6 on NS 3.3
Date: 18 Aug 1998 07:42:29 GMT
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Try
% ./configure --without-readline
Regards,
* AndREa * (dunham@eecs.tulane.edu)
From: lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PDF Viewers that show figures
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:22:41 GMT
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Hi, I have both PDFView and OmniPDF and neither of them will display the
figures in journal articles that I download. If I download them on Win NT
(yuck!), then the figures show fine. Is there a fix?
Thanks in advance!
-Sean La Shell
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From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
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Subject: Re: Nextstation Memory problem...
Date: 18 Aug 1998 22:21:48 GMT
Organization: Marine Physical Lab., U.C. San Diego
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In <35D19097.28F6@softlab.co.at> Maximilian Weissboeck wrote:
| Charles W. Swiger wrote:
| >
| > Maximilian Weissboeck <wei@softlab.co.at> wrote:
| > [ ... ]
| > >The stations with 8 simm sockets do not support bigger
| > >simms's than 4MB (max 32MB, was a lot at 1991 when they were built).
| >
| > Right. Also, those are 30-pin SIMM's, not 72-pin, and they need to be
| > installed in banks of four. The machines with four 72-pin slots can take
up
| > to 128 MB with 32MB SIMM's in banks of two.
|
| Wrong ;-) Stations never had 30 pin SIMM's, only cubes. Needed
| to be installed in banks of two.
Wrong again. The first mono Stations had eight sockets for 30-pin SIMMs.
Their boot ROM thought they had 16 sockets, just like Cubes. The largest
SIMM that will work in a 30-pin socket in a NeXT is 4MB, and they must be
installed in banks of 4.
The first color Stations had eight sockets for 72-pin SIMMs. The largest SIMM
that will work in these is also 4MB, but they can be installed in banks of
two.
Later production Stations and Cubes all had four sockets for 72-pin SIMMs as
described.
carl
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From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
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Subject: net browser of NS 3.2?
Date: 18 Aug 1998 15:34:33 GMT
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Is there a graphical net browser available for NS 3.2 [on a black cube]?
Please respond by e-mail. Thanks. Best regards...Paul
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
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Subject: Re: PDF Viewers that show figures
Date: 18 Aug 1998 19:55:14 GMT
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In article <6rcd92$jlu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>Hi, I have both PDFView and OmniPDF and neither of them will display the
>figures in journal articles that I download. If I download them on Win NT
>(yuck!), then the figures show fine. Is there a fix?
If you are running NS3.2 or earlier, upgrade to at least NS3.3.
From: wbynum@cs.tamu.edu (Wade Eric Bynum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP: NeXT slab looses static ip connection.
Date: 18 Aug 1998 23:18:45 GMT
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Hello,
Today I connected my NeXT slab to my cable modem, using
a static ip given to me by the cable company. Everything seems
to work fine unless I let the connection idle. If I do not
do anything on the NeXT for 10 or more minutes, I can no
longer ping, telnet, etc the slab from any of my university
accounts/computers. Once I use the connection on the NeXT, by
say doing a ping from the slab, to some random server, then
I can once again telnet into the slab. This cycle keeps repeating.
Also, sometimes I cannot revive the connection by a ping, etc
after it goes dead. Then I try to restart/shutdown the slab the
normal way and the logout hangs. I must do the <command>-~ to
shutdown/restart it.
I am thinking it is not a cable modem problem, as the static
ip I was given for my pc works fine. Any ideas? Thanks.
Wade Bynum (wbynum@cs.tamu.edu)
From: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What became of OlafAM.app?
Date: 18 Aug 1998 20:00:20 GMT
Organization: Oldenburger Informations-Systeme, FRG
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In article <ExvE96.CCM@prosoft.com> lparkyn@prosoft.com (Lyle Parkyn)
writes:
> Did anyone ever get a verson of OlafAM.app to work with NS 3.3 on a
Sparc
> 5?
Yes, I.
But Sparc (or is it just the Voyager?) seems to have problems with the
serial line. Thus both OlafAM and NXFax have problems sending faxes - you
see some bad lines.
Otherwise it works fine.
Gerriet.
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
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Subject: Re: HELP: NeXT slab looses static ip connection.
Date: 18 Aug 1998 22:22:07 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
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Might you be confusing a static IP with a dedicated connection?
Having one does not imply the other.
For example, at slip.net for example a static IP costs $10 per
month but if you want a dedicated connection (which never times
out) the price is ~$80 per month. $140 for DSL.
Sounds like a service provider issue.
Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: can't fill tables in msql
Date: 19 Aug 1998 05:26:45 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
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Hi,
I installed msql.1.0.5.1 from peak.
I've created a datebase but can't seem
to insert rows into a table. Any
suggestions?
Here is my msql.acl file :
#
# Access control for mSQL
#
# Entries are of the form
#
database=test
read=*
write=*
host=*
access=local,remote
option=rfc931
database=minerva
read=*
write=*
access=local
Here is a sample session :
/usr/local/Minerva/bin>msql testdb
Welcome to the miniSQL monitor. Type \h for help.
mSQL > CREATE TABLE employee
-> (first_name CHAR(25),
-> last_name CHAR(25),
-> employe_id INT)
-> \g
Query OK.
mSQL > INSERT INTO employee VALUES ("JJ", "RR", 1)
-> \g
ERROR : syntax error near "values"
mSQL > INSERT first_name,last_name VALUES ("aaa", "bb" , 1)
-> \g
ERROR : syntax error near "first_name"
mSQL > INSERT first_name, last_name INTO employee
-> VALUES ("aaa", "bb" , 1)
-> \g
ERROR : syntax error near "first_name"
mSQL > INSERT INTO employee VALUES ('aa', 'rr', 1)
-> \g
ERROR : syntax error near "values"
mSQL > INSERT INTO employee
-> \g
ERROR : syntax error near ""
mSQL > ^D
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Framemaker 3.2
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:26:06 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
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References: <35d18755.186871587@news.stnc.co.uk> <ExL8J3.28z@midway.uchicago.edu> <35D826A6.77BAE16A@bananenbar.to.utwente.nl>
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Marco van Hylckama Vlieg wrote:
> Andrew Chang wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > To my best knowledge, the only way you can get a full version of the
> > software is to buy a used package over the net. This is commonly
> > considered software license transfer. Adobe/Framemaker will not be
> > happy with any other means to acquire the license code.
>
> This is incredibly STUPID.
> It's like this with a lot of NeXT software.
> some companies don't even exist anymore but you still can't get the
> software.
> I really wonder why they don't just make it publically available. I mean,
> people want to pay
> for the software but companies (like Adobe in this case) apparently don't
> want their money.
> They ALSO don't want to give out the software.
> This is really annoying as hell to me.
>
I agree! Well I have the luck to own original NS FrameMaker versions 2.x and
3.x!
However, without any comments from my side, I'll point you to the following
address:
http://www.magnnet.com/Homes/enabling.html
from here on, everybody has to decide by its own what to do with the
informations from there!!!
Valentino
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From: dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright)
Subject: Quantrix Import / Export
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Date: 19 Aug 98 16:00:43 GMT
Can quantrix iport and export from an outisde source? Maybe like
MS Sql server?
From: gfrancis@psych.purdue.edu (Greg Francis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing LaTeX2e
Date: 19 Aug 1998 15:21:17 GMT
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After several happy productive years with LaTeX 2.09 it seems it is time for
me to update to LaTeX2e. I downloaded the NeXT packages LaTeX2ePackages.pkg
and LaTeX2eBase.pkg from one of the ftp sites. I installed them, but am not
sure what to do next to get them to work.
I am running NS 3.2, and use InstantTeX for my texing. I am an avid user of
TeX (well, LaTeX anyhow) but have been spoiled by the ease of installation
with NeXTStep and know next to nothing about what is involved in making it
work. Could someone help me out?
Thanks,
-Greg Francis
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From: dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright)
Subject: Anyone want to sell improv?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net/
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Date: 19 Aug 98 16:01:37 GMT
I'm lookin for a copy of Improv for the PC. I have a copy but my disks
went bad.
-Darren
From: gareth@piper-maru.demon.co.uk
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Subject: ESRI ArcView GIS
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:37:01 GMT
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Can anyone please help me in getting a serial number for ArcView 2.1
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35dbe188.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 20 Aug 98 08:42:48 GMT
gfrancis@psych.purdue.edu (Greg Francis) wrote:
>After several happy productive years with LaTeX 2.09 it seems it is time for
>me to update to LaTeX2e. I downloaded the NeXT packages LaTeX2ePackages.pkg
>and LaTeX2eBase.pkg from one of the ftp sites. I installed them, but am not
>sure what to do next to get them to work.
I never got those Packages to work correctly.
My suggestion is to get the teTeX-distribution from
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/./NEXTSTEP/text/tex/teTeX/
install it quite after the instructions. (IMPORTANT things to remember:
remove the NeXTTeX-distrib., remove all TeX-relatet variables in .cshrc and
/etc/cshrc.std, set the $PATH, to find all binaries of teTeX first!)
For InstantTeX a (simple) solution with teTeX is at
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/./NEXTSTEP/text/tex/teTeX/. This works great.
For Bibliography you must install the bib-files from contrib/goodies... (at
the peanuts-address above), make the texhash (according to the teTeX
instructions and use something like
setenv TEXINPUTS
":/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/bibtex/bst/germbib:/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/bibtex/bst
/base:/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/bibtex/bst/ams:."
in your .cshrc
For Feynman it may be nescessary to link latex and dvips from the
teTeX-bin-directory to a standard bin (/usr/local/bin) directory.
This configuration works great here for our staff-members :-).
greetings
Sven
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From: "Andrew Malota" <rinn_the_great@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Accounting Software
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:39:42 -0500
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas
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I could use some quicken-clone software for NEXTSTEP 2.0 If you know of any
free accounting software packages, PLEASE mail me.
Thanks!
Andrew Malota
From: Pascal Bourguignon <pbourgui@afaa.asso.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Smalltalk on OS4.2 or Rhapsody
Date: 20 Aug 1998 03:48:15 GMT
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moetteli@citeu.unige.ch wrote:
>Hi
>
>
>I found this NSSmalltalk 1.2Alpha5, which has been prepared on NS3.3.
Unfortunately it doesn't compile any more under OS4.2 or R.
>Does anybody use Smalltalk under OS4.2 or Rhapsody? Has anybody a version,
that compiles or runs under OS4.2/R? Or would it make sense to ask somebody
for the binaries in order to install them und er OS4.2?
>
>
>Thanks for any advice!
>Phil
>
I've just uploaded squeak-2.0-0.1.N.bs.tar.gz to ftp.peanuts.org. You should
find it soon in
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/developer/languages/smalltalk/.
Here is the README:
---------------------------------(README)---------------------------------
Here is a snapshot of my porting effort of Squeak-2.0 on NEXTSTEP.
The application nextstep/Squeak-v0.1.app is functionnal, if a little slow.
You can configure in the Info/Preference panel:
- the size of memory used for the heap,
- the path of the image,
- the mapping of the modifiers and mouse button to the tree-buttoned
Smalltalk mouse. Have a look at the source to check how non-exclusive
configuration is handled.
dwrite Squeak YellowButton lm
dwrite Squeak BlueButton r
dwrite Squeak RedButton l
dwrite Squeak ImagePath /local/src/squeak-2.0/image/Squeak2.0.image
I'm sorry, the sources do not correspond to the compiled application. I've
started to upgrade them, planing to directly access the video memory (via
/dev/vid0) for better performance. Since I've interrupted work on it last
month, I don't remember if it would even compile...
The project in nextstep/ will compile the Squeak library. However, you need
gmake to do that.
__Pascal Bourguignon__
mailto:pjb@imaginet.fr
Thu Aug 20 05:31:12 MET 1998
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
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Subject: Does OpenSTEP have mmap()?
Date: 21 Aug 1998 07:27:08 -0700
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Header says it all.
Thanks,
Emmett
From: DCraft@Adobe.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OPENSTEP 4.2 lookupd for 68K
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 01:01:50 GMT
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Message-ID: <6rl59u$v4a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Can anyone point me to a 4.2 version of lookupd for a 68K machine?
I have OPENSTEP 4.1 installed and am being hit by the lookupd crashes
(large /core files, "Intruder alert" for "su root", UNKNOWN process owners,
"who are you?" from whoami, general system lockups). Some past postings
suggested that the 4.2 version of lookupd seemed to have fixed the problem
and might be compatible with a 4.1 system. (It's not an option to upgrade
to 4.2 right now.)
Thanks greatly for any help. If I can't get this sorted out I will have
to turn off my beloved Cube forever, and that would be sad indeed.
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From: DAVID HOUTS <dhouts@haywire.csuhayward.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Accounting Software
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 23:16:46 -0700
Organization: CSUnet
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980821231446.12087A-100000@haywire.csuhayward.edu>
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To: Andrew Malota <rinn_the_great@hotmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <6rimjv$h80$2@news.tamu.edu>
CheckSum or CheckSum Pro, sold by Stone Design. It is sorta like Quicken,
but it is not...
On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, Andrew Malota wrote:
> I could use some quicken-clone software for NEXTSTEP 2.0 If you know of any
> free accounting software packages, PLEASE mail me.
>
> Thanks!
> Andrew Malota
>
>
>
>
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does OpenSTEP have mmap()?
Date: 22 Aug 1998 13:50:58 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <6rmic2$6qo$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <6rk03s$c6k@slip.net>
In article <6rk03s$c6k@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes:
> Header says it all.
Yes and no. (-; It's there, if you know how to get to it.
NEXTSTEP (3.x) and OpenStep (4.x) has a version of mmap, but it doesn't
support all of what a "modern" mmap supports, like locking. You can peruse
the header file:
/usr/include/bsd/sys/mman.h
for what options it DOES support.
Now, using it is tricky, because there is no direct API for it in NeXT's
supplied C library, but appended is a code snippet that allows access.
Good luck.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK)
Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
/* @(#)mmap.c 1.0 of 20 December 1996
*
* Copyright (c) 1996 by Fabien Roy.
* Written by Fabien Roy and Robert Ehrlich.
* Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.fr Robert.Ehrlich@inria.fr
* Not derived from licensed software.
* Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any
* purpose on any computer system, and to redistribute it freely,
* subject to the following restrictions:
* 1. The author is not responsible for the consequences of use of
* this software, no matter how awful, even if they arise
* from defects in it.
* 2. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented, either
* by explicit claim or by omission.
* 3. Altered versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not
* be misrepresented as being the original software.
*/
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/mman.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <syscall.h>
caddr_t mmap(caddr_t addr, size_t len, int prot, int flags, int fd, off_t
off)
{
int pagelessone = getpagesize() -1;
int size;
caddr_t pageaddress;
/* round to next page size */
size = (len + pagelessone) & ~pagelessone;
/* allocate aligned pages */
if (!(pageaddress = (caddr_t) valloc(size)))
return (caddr_t) -1;
/* map it */
if (syscall(SYS_mmap, pageaddress, size, prot, flags, fd,
off))
{
free(pageaddress);
return (caddr_t) -1;
}
return pageaddress;
}
void munmap(caddr_t addr, size_t len)
{
syscall(SYS_munmap,addr,len);
free(addr);
}
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From: olaf@orest.escape.de
Subject: Re: can't fill tables in msql
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In article <6rega5$b0f@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> I installed msql.1.0.5.1 from peak.
> I've created a datebase but can't seem
> to insert rows into a table. Any
> suggestions?
>
>
> Here is my msql.acl file :
>
> #
> # Access control for mSQL
> #
> # Entries are of the form
> #
>
> database=test
> read=*
> write=*
> host=*
> access=local,remote
> option=rfc931
>
> database=minerva
> read=*
> write=*
> access=local
>
> Here is a sample session :
>
> /usr/local/Minerva/bin>msql testdb
>
> Welcome to the miniSQL monitor. Type \h for help.
>
> mSQL > CREATE TABLE employee
> -> (first_name CHAR(25),
> -> last_name CHAR(25),
> -> employe_id INT)
> -> \g
>
> Query OK.
>
>
> mSQL > INSERT INTO employee VALUES ("JJ", "RR", 1)
> -> \g
>
>
> ERROR : syntax error near "values"
>
>
This version of msql needs the corresponding column names.
So either take another msql version (1.0.16) or give the column names:
insert into employee(first_name,last_name,employe_id) values('JJ','RR',1)\g
Best regards
Olaf
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From: Howard S Schumacher <hss@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Rhapsody on iMac
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 18:40:51 -0500
Organization: n/a
Message-ID: <hss-2208981840510001@al-test.fal.buffalo.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.980808172818.11684B-100000@entropy6>
In article <Pine.NXT.3.96.980808172818.11684B-100000@entropy6>, "Rudolf B.
Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu> wrote:
>Dear NeXTers,
> as I posted in csn.marketplace someone stole my NeXTstation (see
>http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek/StolenNeXTstation.htmld), therefore I
>will have to buy a new machine.
> I am very much tempted to buy the new iMac, but I think I need Rhapsody.
>Does Rhapsody run on iMac? The problem is the USB ports and the IDE drive
>(I think.)
> If you could let me know by e-mail I would appreciate it. I am a bit in a
>hurry since as I said, I have no machine and need one fairly soon.
At the WWDC98, Steve Jobs said something like, "Rhapsody was great
technology, but it just didn't go far enough. So lemme tell you about OS
X." So I was thinking what changes could they possibly plan to make
before we see OS X?
The next day, an OS engineer answered my question during another address
to developers. He said, "One of the things about OS X is that it gives
you complete control of the system via the graphical interface. After
all, a UNIX prompt is nothing a user wants to be confronted by, especially
if they're using an iMac."
To me, that says an iMac will run OS X, and that Apple had the iMac in
mind for OS X all along. Rhapsody is still a mystery. But it doesn't
really matter. Everything that makes Rhapsody what it is will be part of
OS X.
howie
--
Howard Schumacher
http://howie.fal.buffalo.edu/
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MsqlPerl for NeXTSTEP 3.3 ?
Date: 22 Aug 1998 16:54:55 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6rnlof$2tb@slip.net>
Hi,
Has anyone built MsqlPerl for NeXTSTEP 3.3.
Upon attempting an install of version 1.10 I get the message :
(You get this message, because MakeMaker could not find
"/usr/local/lib/perl5/next-fat/5.00402/CORE/perl.h")
So an equivalent question is ...
Might anyone who as compiled Perl5.0402 have the /CORE/*.h files?
(I'm using the Perl pkg from peak).
Thanks,
Emmett
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <15411903240023@digifix.com>
Date: 23 Aug 1998 03:48:24 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <6415903844821@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Neill Griffin <mrbean@mira.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NextStep for Intel v3.1 upgrade
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 22:18:31 +1000
Organization: Dis
Message-ID: <35E00897.2898@look.in.the.sig.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Greetings,
I've recently come across a copy of NextStep for Intel v3.1
(Dev Ed) and I was wondering if upgrades to v3.2/3.3? are available from
any source.
TIA
neill
mrbean@mira.net
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel v3.1 upgrade
Message-ID: <1998082313585100.JAA03916@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Date: 23 Aug 1998 13:58:51 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <35E00897.2898@look.in.the.sig.net>
No, not upgrades per se, but occasionally copies of 3.2 and so forth become
available for sale.
However, the 3.1 CD is not useless, containing softwar such as Oxford's, and
TeX which are not included on later versions of the OS. The older shlibs are
also useful in making older software (i.e. WingZ) run.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Erik Nieves" <shadow@viasub.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where can I get ANY programming Langueges that will work on NS 2.0?
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 07:29:44 -0700
Organization: Keyway Internet Access 909-933-3650
Message-ID: <6rrtcu$3qi$1@madmax.keyway.net>
References: <6rppjv$j6u$1@news.tamu.edu>
Andrew Malota wrote in message <6rppjv$j6u$1@news.tamu.edu>...
>If you can help, please mail.
>Also, if you have any NeXT junk you want to ditch, please mail me. I need
>Hardware, Software, Documentation, anything.
>
>Thanks!
>Andrew Malota.
>
>
Leeme be the first to say it...
NeXT Hardware & Software could never be considered "JUNK"
This has been a public service announcement...
Erik
From: John Kheit <jkheit@mediaone.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mail.app & Group Definition
Date: 24 Aug 1998 16:43:04 GMT
Organization: UCO & Associates, NH, USA
Message-ID: <6rs56o$j0o$1@lwnws01.ne.highway1.com>
Hi All,
I'm starting to get way too long a list of Private Groups in Mail.app. It
would be great if under the Private Groups we're allowed to make that we
could further nest hierchies of groups. That would be very functional and
ease email sending; i.e. I could have a group A have subgroups B&C. If I
mail things to A, it will go to members in both B&C, but I could just email
to a single subgroup (which might contain further subgroups) if I wanted.
Is there anyway to accomplish such nesting in Mail.app? It seems that the
address browser there is limited to one level. Thanks for any tips. :)
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@mediaone.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app & Group Definition
Date: 24 Aug 1998 17:31:46 GMT
Organization: UCO & Associates, NH, USA
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John Kheit <jkheit@mediaone.net> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm starting to get way too long a list of Private Groups in Mail.app. It
> would be great if under the Private Groups we're allowed to make that we
> could further nest hierchies of groups. That would be very functional and
> ease email sending; i.e. I could have a group A have subgroups B&C. If I
> mail things to A, it will go to members in both B&C, but I could just email
> to a single subgroup (which might contain further subgroups) if I wanted.
>
> Is there anyway to accomplish such nesting in Mail.app? It seems that the
> address browser there is limited to one level. Thanks for any tips. :)
I got a very helpful email from Rex that answers the above in general.
Here's a snip of the email for all to benefit from:
>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:25:03 -0500, Rex Dieter (RD) wrote:
> RD> Just make 3 Private groups, A B and C. Then include B and
> C as RD> members of the group A. RD> RD> I've done this with
> system Groups all the time, but haven't tried it RD> with private
> groups, so that means it probabaly won't work... (-;
>
>Thanks, I just tried this and it does work. I still wish I could
>actually navigate the hierchy through the browser instead of the
>word links though. But thanks much. :)
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From: David Reuss <r4388c@email.sps.mot.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenStep for NeXTStation
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:39:39 -0700
Organization: Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector
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Hi,
I have a NeXTStaion Turbo I recently acquired running NeXTStep 3.1. I'm
assuming this machine can run OpenStep 3.0+ but I'm not sure how to get this
software. I'm gathering I'd have to purchase it, but from where? Any help
wopuld be apreciated.
Dave Reuss
chevell@usa.net
From: George Rachor <george@racsys.rt.rain.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Another inherited NEXT cube.
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 22:30:09 -0700
Organization: RainDrop Laboratories/Agora(sm)
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I too have inherited a Black Cube. Same problem as an earlier gentlemen
listed..... No root password.
I tried to alter the password via the single user route but it still
asked for a password after booting 'bsd -s' from the monitor.
I'd like to do two things. I'd still like to be able to get into single
user mode and change the password. I'd also like to find some boot
media for this machine. The unit has a scsi hard drive (Maxtor 760) and
what looks like another drive for removable media. Anyone have any
insight into blank media for this drive?
Thanks,
George Rachor
Beaverton Oregon
george@racsys.rt.rain.com
From: Michel Coste <nospam@micmac.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Openstep via Virtual PC on G3 PowerBooks?
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:03:48 GMT
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Cc: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu
This was written in comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
(<6r9idk$er9@news.acns.nwu.edu>) by Lars A. Stole:
> I allocated the maximum amount of memory to VPC -- 64 MB (VPC will
> not let you allocate more; if you try, your system won't boot or it
> crashes unexpectedly). The performance is particularly irritating
> with respect to the video speed. I find it too frustrating to use
> and would prefer to use my old next slab (25Mhz) -- I'm not
> exaggerating. The CPU may be slower on a Next slab, but the video is
> smooth and updates are without delay. Perhaps some tweaking could be
> done to boost performance in VPC to the point at which is would be
> useable. I've already discovered that the S3 generic driver is not
> quite as good as the Diamond Stealth, which is in turn not quite as
> good as the #9 (1mb) driver. But these are very small differences
> (perhaps just in my imagination). If you know of a way to boost
> video performance, etc., please let me know and I'll try it when I
> get a chance.
>
>
Without experimenting myself there are very few things I can think of. The
colors maybe...
How many colors do you use? Have you tried 256? (!!!)
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From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GIMP .. Xt on NeXT?
Date: 25 Aug 1998 11:47:42 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
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Hello,
I just tried to build GLIMP (the GNU Image Manipulation Program) on an Intel
NS3.3 system. However, it needs the gtk+ library, which needs glib. OK, glib
compiled after adding various -posix flags. Fine.
Next is gtk+. But the configure script fails because it cannot find my X
libraries, especially libXt.a
I have Xnext (licensed) on my system to display X programs, and a demo of
co-Xist and CubXWindow.app, but none seem to come with any libraries. I
looked around if the Xt can be downloaded somewhere, but I was not
successful.
Can anyone help me and tell me where I could get these X-libraries from? Or
are they available only commercially for cash?
Thank you very much,
Helmut
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From: jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Another inherited NEXT cube.
Date: 25 Aug 1998 12:56:45 GMT
Organization: Idiom Communications
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Cc: george@racsys.rt.rain.com
George Rachor may or may not have said:
-> I too have inherited a Black Cube. Same problem as an earlier gentlemen
-> listed..... No root password.
->
-> I tried to alter the password via the single user route but it still
-> asked for a password after booting 'bsd -s' from the monitor.
You probably have a hardware password set, which is not allowing you to do a
single-user boot. To reset this, remove the battery from the motherboard,
and let it discharge for a while. (Some people say an hour, some people say
overnight.)
Put the battery back, and boot from the monitor with "bsd -s".
When you're in single-user mode, copy
/usr/template/client/etc/netinfo/local.nidb over etc/netinfo/local.nidb.
This will overwrite your netinfo database with a pristine netinfo template.
Then reboot, and you won't see the login window, but you'll be in the "me"
account. Go to the preferences app, which should be on the dock and set a
password for the default user account. Then, log out and you'll get the
login window. At the login window, login as root, no password.
You are now root. Set up your accounts as you like them.
-> I'd like to do two things. I'd still like to be able to get into single
-> user mode and change the password. I'd also like to find some boot
-> media for this machine. The unit has a scsi hard drive (Maxtor 760) and
-> what looks like another drive for removable media. Anyone have any
-> insight into blank media for this drive?
That's a 256-meg MO drive. The media is a little hard to come by these days
and it's pretty slow, too.
Mention that you want some OD's in comp.sys.next.marketplace, and you might
get a reply or two.
-jcr
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Division of the Aegis Program Executive Office, US Navy.
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From: trail@ix.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIMP .. Xt on NeXT?
Date: 25 Aug 1998 15:27:33 GMT
Organization: ICGNetcom
Message-ID: <6rul55$pr7@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com>
References: <6ru88u$lal$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
In-Reply-To: <6ru88u$lal$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
On 08/25/98, Helmut Heller wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I just tried to build GLIMP (the GNU Image Manipulation Program) on
an Intel
>NS3.3 system. However, it needs the gtk+ library, which needs glib.
OK, glib
>compiled after adding various -posix flags. Fine.
>
>Next is gtk+. But the configure script fails because it cannot find
my X
>libraries, especially libXt.a
>
>I have Xnext (licensed) on my system to display X programs, and a
demo of
>co-Xist and CubXWindow.app, but none seem to come with any libraries.
I
>looked around if the Xt can be downloaded somewhere, but I was not
>successful.
>
>Can anyone help me and tell me where I could get these X-libraries
from? Or
>are they available only commercially for cash?
>
The XNeXT shareware package had a development portion called
Xnext-libs.pkg. According to the README: 'If you like to compile your
own xapps, you need the Xnext-libs.pkg and the Xnext-man-include.pkg
which contain the "Xnext development kit".'
Whether that has the files necessary to compile the GIMP or not, I
don't know.
Jeff
trail@ix.netcom.com
From: ejv108@psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS3.2 Internet Config
Date: 24 Aug 1998 19:19:38 GMT
Organization: Penn State University
Sender: ejv108@0.0.0.0
Message-ID: <6rseca$nsc@r02n01.cac.psu.edu>
I have been trying to configure my nextstation, running ns 3.2, for a
10base-t internet connection. I have all my numbers, IP, router,
etc.,. I configured to my knowledge and of course it doesnt work. I
have followed the instructions on www.peak.org/~luomat, and it still
doesnt work. If anyone has any experience with ns3.2 and setting up a
10base-t internet connection, send me an email.
From: lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PDF Viewers that show figures
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:43:14 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6rvb5i$5qf$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
References: <6rcd92$jlu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <6rcd92$jlu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu wrote:
> Hi, I have both PDFView and OmniPDF and neither of them will display the
> figures in journal articles that I download. If I download them on Win NT
> (yuck!), then the figures show fine. Is there a fix?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -Sean La Shell
> lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu
>
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>
This gentleman was kind enough to reply to me via e-mail:
Well there is kind of a patch but it is not easy to implement.
Get the 3.3 patch from NeXT site. Beware! this is
a patch for 3.3 not for 3.2. If you install as is it will ruin your system.
I don't remember exactly how to do it but you have to install only the
following files:
usr/lib/NextStep/PS.VM.be
usr/lib/NextStep/PS.VM.le
usr/lib/NextStep/WindowServer
look carefully at the contents. You may have to rename other
application on your disk or them backup, install everything and then delete
all the new stuff except the three files I mentioned and rename or
reinstall from backup. Be very carefull not to mess up.
Yadin.
----------- I backed up all the relevant files, installed the patch, and then
replaced or removed all the stuff I didn't want. Now I can see images in
.pdf files that I download. Cool!
I do seem to have introduced a problem in sendmail, or something related to
that, but that should be fixable . . . . I say this only to warn others to
be extra careful.
Thanks for your help, Yadin!
-Sean
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From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIMP .. Xt on NeXT?
Date: 26 Aug 1998 09:29:20 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
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In article <6rul55$pr7@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com> trail@ix.netcom.com writes:
> On 08/25/98, Helmut Heller wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I just tried to build GLIMP (the GNU Image Manipulation Program) on
> an Intel
>
> The XNeXT shareware package had a development portion called
> Xnext-libs.pkg. According to the README: 'If you like to compile your
> own xapps, you need the Xnext-libs.pkg and the Xnext-man-include.pkg
> which contain the "Xnext development kit".'
>
> Whether that has the files necessary to compile the GIMP or not, I
> don't know.
>
> Jeff
> trail@ix.netcom.com
Jeff, THIS IS IT!!! Thank you VERY much! How silly of me, I hadn't downloaded
all the packages, only the server package .. and I didn't even know that
there was more to XNeXT :-)
Now I can continue with my build of GIMP :-)
Bye,
Helmut
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From: ahoesch@smartsoft.de (Andreas Hoeschler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scientifical Document Management System for OPENSTEP
Date: 27 Aug 1998 12:43:18 GMT
Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V.
Message-ID: <6s3k96$ue@merkur.smartsoft.de>
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Hi,
we are a small software company in Germany and plan to release a scientifical
document management system for OPENSTEP with the following properties in a
few weeks.
Š It is possible to insert mathematical equations directly into the text
without the need of any extra tool. Formulas are entered using very easy to
remember keystrokes and appear immediately on the screen with exactly the
same appearance as they later appear on printed paper. Formulas look TeX
like.
Š Documents are stored in a database by default, what makes it possible to
very efficiently retrieve documents according to a specific criteria (title,
author, category, language,...). One could for example query all documents
with title = Comp*, author = Walter Greiner, category = Quantum mechanics,
language = English and one would get the desired result from a set of many
thousand documents within a second, depending on the performance of the
underlying database.
Š Documents can be joined by creating hyperlinks. Suppose you have created a
document with a rather general derivation. Now you create another one and
need the result of the derivation in the other document. You've two
possibilties. Either you copy the required part from the derivation to your
current document, what, in order to avoid redundancies, in most cases is not
what you want to do, or you create a hyperlink from your current document to
the general derivation. A single click on a highlighted word in your document
will then open the links destination document.
Š There is an easy way to transfer documents from one database (for example
the database running on your home machine or the university computer) to
another one (for example a database running on your notebook) and the
opportunity to later reimport the documents to their source database, even if
they have been modified in the meantime.
Š Documents also can be written to and read from a file in order to exchange
documents containing formulas with other scientists via email or in order to
send a scientifical request to a mailing list or a newsgroup.
Š The software will be available for a wide range of platforms (Intel, Sun,
NeXT, Rhapsody,...).
Moreover we plan to setup mailing lists for several scientifical areas,
- Classical Mechanics
- Electrodynamics
- Quantummechanics
.
that instead of ASCII text will exchange scientifical documents (with formula
intensive contents) in order to provide an efficient communication mechanism
for scientists and students.
A very early beta version of the described software for (NeXT, Intel, Sun) is
available at
http://www.smartsoft.de
Although many features haven't been implemented yet, we would like to
encourage you to test the software and make suggestions for its further
development. Thank you very much in advance!
Yours
Andreas Hoeschler
Smartsoft Development
From: "Mark R. Bush" <bushm@law.utah.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing NeXTstep on black hardware
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:22:02 -0600
Organization: University of Utah - ACLIS
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Hello, I have a NeXTstation (non-turbo) that came with 3.2. I would
like to do a clean install of NeXTstep 3.3 which I bought from Apple.
In the package Apple sent me it came with the two floppy disks for use
with Intel based machines. I read the install instructions and it said
on black hardware to use the install floppy which I did but I get errors
stating bad disk label; no chk sum, etc. Is there a way to install
NeXTstep just with the CD on black hardware if so how?
Thanks
Mark R. Bush
bushm@law.utah.edu
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing NeXTstep on black hardware
Date: 27 Aug 1998 17:52:43 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
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References: <35E587AA.1F82252D@law.utah.edu>
In article <35E587AA.1F82252D@law.utah.edu>,
Mark R. Bush <bushm@law.utah.edu> wrote:
> Is there a way to install
>NeXTstep just with the CD on black hardware if so how?
Go to enterprise.apple.com and search for "floppy" within NeXTanswers.
Ken
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From: wbynum@cs.tamu.edu (Wade Eric Bynum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing NeXTstep on black hardware
Date: 27 Aug 1998 18:30:43 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M Computer Science Department, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <6s48kj$klp$1@news.tamu.edu>
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Aug 1998 18:30:43 GMT
In article <35E587AA.1F82252D@law.utah.edu>,
Mark R. Bush <bushm@law.utah.edu> wrote:
>Hello, I have a NeXTstation (non-turbo) that came with 3.2. I would
>like to do a clean install of NeXTstep 3.3 which I bought from Apple.
>In the package Apple sent me it came with the two floppy disks for use
>with Intel based machines. I read the install instructions and it said
>on black hardware to use the install floppy which I did but I get errors
>stating bad disk label; no chk sum, etc. Is there a way to install
>NeXTstep just with the CD on black hardware if so how?
>
You are trying to use the intel boot floppy on your
slab. That's the reason for the checksum errors, etc.
Got to:
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2667.htmld/2667.html
and look under the 3.3 Motorola Boot Floppy Image for
the floppy image. You will not need a drivers disk.
On a related note, anyone know how to get a turbo slab
to boot directly to an OS4.2 user cd? When trying, it acts
the same as the above guys problem and I must use the
boot disk. My old NS3.1 cd booted fine with:
bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1
Thanks for the help.
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From: "Staffing" <NOSPAM_info@objectsoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Wanted: NextStep OpenStep developers in Chicago
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:14:54 -0500
Organization: http://www.supernews.com, The World's Usenet: Discussions Start Here
Message-ID: <6s4pe4$70a$1@supernews.com>
We have an immediate opening for two developers to port software from
NextStep to OpenStep in Chicago. Excellent opportunity. Consultants are
welcome to apply. Email your resume to: next@objectsoft.com
From: James Meacham <jmeacham@jhuccp.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Netware client for NS/OS 4.2?
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:17:41 -0400
Organization: Johns Hopkins University / Center for Communication Programs
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Hi All,
I just started a job where the network is run on Netware (ugh!). I know
that NS 3.3 has netware client, but I need to ude NS/OS 4.2 for a
handful of different reasons. Is there either a way of using the 3.3
client on 4.2, or is there a netware product out there that I could
use? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Peace,
James
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netware client for NS/OS 4.2?
Date: 28 Aug 1998 12:49:24 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <6s690k$4eb$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <35E5BEE5.281F@jhuccp.org>
In article <35E5BEE5.281F@jhuccp.org> James Meacham <jmeacham@jhuccp.org>
writes:
> Hi All,
>
> I just started a job where the network is run on Netware (ugh!). I know
> that NS 3.3 has netware client, but I need to ude NS/OS 4.2 for a
> handful of different reasons. Is there either a way of using the 3.3
> client on 4.2, or is there a netware product out there that I could
> use? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Peace,
Um, isn't there a Novel network client included in OS 4.2 too? There is on
my CD! (-;
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From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: S: SYBASE Administrator Version >= 4.0.2/P/NeXT/1.0/4
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:58:16 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
Message-ID: <35E557E8.73CBE65B@lavielle.com>
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Hello,
I'am missing the "SYBASE Administrator program Version >= 4.0.2/P/NeXT/1.0/4"
for the Sybase DBMS.
Could somebody be so kind and send me the NS3.3 black binary version via Email,
or at least point me to some location where I can download it from???
Thanks in advance for any help,
Valentino
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Print to remote Printer attached to NT machine
Date: 28 Aug 1998 18:46:25 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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References: <6s6ssc$2id$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
In article <6s6ssc$2id$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt) writes:
> I have a DeskJet printer attached to an NT 4.0 computer. I am trying
> to print from the NeXT (black) using samba:
> smbclient \\\\Computer\\Printer -P
> it connects but then asks for a password. I set the printer security
> so Everyone can print. I don't want to use a password. If I hit return
> it reports error and disconnects. Any one has an idea how to print
> without a password? (I can say -U username and input a password and
> then it works but our network is wide open and I don't want to use an
> unencrypted password).
Use a modern version samba (version 1.9.18 for example), which supports
encrypted passwords.
Otherwise, there's no way around the authentication step when connecting to
an NT machine that I'm aware of.
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@mediaone.net>
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Subject: Mail.app Addressing
Date: 27 Aug 1998 17:28:34 GMT
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Hi All:
I'm trying to do something simple in Mail.app. Address names with proper
suffixes, but Mail.app doesn't want to do it. A specific example:
"John A. Doe, Esquire" <jdoe@shmoe.com>
The comma after Doe seems to cut the address in half and saves it as two
addresses. You don't initially see this problem until you quit and relaunch
Mail.app. I also tried:
jdoe@shmoe.com (John A. Doe, Esquire) and it did the same thing.
I prefer the first format with quotes because then I can see the people's
real names, rather than email addresses, in the address browser. Anyway, is
there any way to actually put commas into a name in Mail.app? Thanks for any
help. :)
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From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for Sybase Administrator.app for NS 3.3
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:48:35 +0200
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Hello,
I am looking for a copy of the Sybase Administrator.app that works under NS 3.3 black hardware.
There was a technical bulletin put out some long time ago on it , but I have not been able to find anyone that has the updated app. If you
please have it, would you please send it to me/ post it to the archives or let me ftp it
from you.
Thanks,
Valentino
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From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scientifical Document Management System for OPENSTEP
Date: 27 Aug 1998 15:31:56 GMT
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In <6s3k96$ue@merkur.smartsoft.de> Andreas Hoeschler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we are a small software company in Germany and plan to release a
scientifical
> document management system for OPENSTEP with the following properties
in a
> few weeks.
> [snip]
> Although many features haven't been implemented yet, we would like to
> encourage you to test the software and make suggestions for its further
> development. Thank you very much in advance!
>
> Yours
>
> Andreas Hoeschler
> Smartsoft Development
>
This sounds very intriguing. It will be nice to see a finished version.
One major point though, scientifical is not a word.
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In article <6rul55$pr7@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com> trail@ix.netcom.com writes:
> On 08/25/98, Helmut Heller wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I just tried to build GIMP (the GNU Image Manipulation Program) on
> an Intel
> The XNeXT shareware package had a development portion called
> Xnext-libs.pkg. According to the README: 'If you like to compile your
> own xapps, you need the Xnext-libs.pkg and the Xnext-man-include.pkg
> which contain the "Xnext development kit".'
Thank you very much, that did it! I got the libs package and compiled The
GIMP on NS3.3! And it works!!!
If there is any interest, I will make an Installer package for intel NS3.3
(should also run on intel OS4.2). Just let me know (by email).
Bye!
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In <6s690k$4eb$1@unlnews.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote:
> Um, isn't there a Novel network client included in OS 4.2 too? There
is on
> my CD! (-;
I checked my CD, and there it is (funny that it wasn't installed, since
I did a complete install, not upgrade.
But it dies on launch, due to bad shared libraries:
Aug 28 09:03:36 Workspace: Cannot exec
/OPENSTEP_4.2/NextAdmin/NetWareManager.app/NetWareManager : Bad
executable (or shared library)
JP
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I have a DeskJet printer attached to an NT 4.0 computer. I am trying
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smbclient \\\\Computer\\Printer -P
it connects but then asks for a password. I set the printer security
so Everyone can print. I don't want to use a password. If I hit return
it reports error and disconnects. Any one has an idea how to print
without a password? (I can say -U username and input a password and
then it works but our network is wide open and I don't want to use an
unencrypted password).
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
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h>
>If there is any interest, I will make an Installer package for intel NS3.3
>(should also run on intel OS4.2). Just let me know (by email).
>
interest is here.
greets
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From: Neal Stoughton <nmstough@uci.edu>
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A friend of mine is switching (regretably) from nextstep to windows nt
and is planning on using outlook express as his email client. He has a
large number of archived emails that are on his nextstep system and he
would like to convert them for use on outlook express. Does anyone have
advice on how best to go about this? Thanks.
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From: jon@endeavour.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
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Subject: ps2pdf
Date: 1 Sep 1998 20:18:14 GMT
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Hi All,
I'm told that a ps2pdf program exists for Solaris. Anybody know
if a similar animal has been compiled for NS? I'm running OS4.2.
Thanks much - Jon
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
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Subject: Re: ps2pdf
Date: 1 Sep 1998 13:56:23 -0700
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Jon Haveman <jon@haveman.org> wrote:
>Hi All,
> I'm told that a ps2pdf program exists for Solaris. Anybody know
>if a similar animal has been compiled for NS? I'm running OS4.2.
>
Yes, PStill.app.
A demo is available at ftp.next.peak.org and at this.net/~frank .
Licenses are just 50$ and come with support.
You might also check out PageChain.app which is free, also at peak.
It lets you chain files of any type (e.g. tiff, ps) into a postscript file
(which you can convert into pdf format with PStill).
Emmett
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From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang)
Subject: How to shrink multi-arch executables?
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This is maybe a very simple question, but I'm not quite familar with
Intel platform. Now I have NS installed on a Pentium, but the
disk space is tight. I'm think about squeeze the executables to
save more disk space. I remember this is doable. Can anyone tell me
what they do about this?
Maybe NeXTAnswers can tell something... I'll check this also.
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Use the "lipo" utility, which is in the /bin path.
There's also a man page. You can also use lipo to see which arch's are
e in the executable.
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From: dunham@cs.tulane.edu (Andrea Dunham)
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Subject: Tricks with eps files?
Date: 2 Sep 1998 17:39:33 GMT
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Hi All,
I have many eps files (each file having one gnuplot plot) and I'd like
to print n-up (4 or 8) of the files per page. Do you know a
procedure/app that I can use?
I tried Gary Holt's gnuplot_eps but it seems to change the aspect ratio
of the individual files. I have quarto, but it seems to work only if I
can convert my many eps files of plots to one eps file with each plot on
a different page.
I have two questions:
* Do you know how I can combine many eps files into one eps file?
* Do you know of an app or script that will do tricks with eps like
n-up, select to print only certain pages, etc?
Thanks for your help,
* AndREa * (dunham@eecs.tulane.edu)
From: "Dwight Everhart" <everhart@chronographer.com>
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Subject: Re: email conversion
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:28:41 -0500
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Neal Stoughton wrote in message <35EC057D.7EA9BC5B@uci.edu>...
>A friend of mine is switching (regretably) from nextstep to windows nt
>and is planning on using outlook express as his email client. He has a
>large number of archived emails that are on his nextstep system and he
>would like to convert them for use on outlook express. Does anyone have
>advice on how best to go about this? Thanks.
I did this just a few weeks ago. I don't know of any direct way to convert
the mailboxes. What I did was re-mail the messages using this method:
1) Use the Rules Wizard in Outlook to create rules which will sort the
messages into the appropriate folders when they arrive.
2) Open the mailbox in Mail.app; select all messages (Edit-->Select All);
save the messages to a file. The file will contain all of the messages in
Unix mailbox format.
3) Move the file to your mail server; use formail and procmail to re-mail
the messages ("formail -s procmail < message_file"). If your Windows
machine has procmail, you may be able to do this step on it.
4) Receive the messages using Outlook.
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From: Daniel Tomasevich <danilo@primenet.com>
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Subject: Equation Builder help
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
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Subject: Re: email conversion
Date: 2 Sep 1998 22:11:45 GMT
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Neal Stoughton wrote in message <35EC057D.7EA9BC5B@uci.edu>...
>A friend of mine is switching (regretably) from nextstep to windows nt
>and is planning on using outlook express as his email client. He has a
>large number of archived emails that are on his nextstep system and he
>would like to convert them for use on outlook express. Does anyone have
>advice on how best to go about this? Thanks.
One way is to
[1] setup an Univ of Washington IMAP server on the NeXT
[2] symlink all ~/Mailboxes/SomeFolder/Stuff.mbox/mbox to ~/mail/SomeFolder/Stuff
[3] Choose in e-mail client app to use IMAP instead of POP.
[4] Move mails from remote NeXT server to another server or to local folder.
I have a script that does step [2] at:
ftp://pinoko.berkeley.edu/pub/next/sources/imap4prep
You can stop at step [3] and have access to all your mails from anywhere
or use both Mail.app and Windows mail clients interchangeably.
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
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Subject: GIMP for NS3.3 uploaded
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:13:00 GMT
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Hello,
since there was some interest, I have made a package. It is quite big
(50MB!!), but I can't help it! I put it on .../NEXTSTEP/submissions in
peanuts (the munich archive: http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/index.html )
and I hope it will appear soon in the regular archive.
It is an intel-only package, but I am in contact with the GIMP maintainers
and the next release should compile on NeXT out-of-the-box (but it needs
500MB disk space to compile!).
The name is s.th. like
GIMP.1.0.0.I.b.tar
but I made a typo and so it could also be
GIPM.1.0.0.I.b.tar
sorry!
If you have problems with the package, let me know!
Bye,
Helmut
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From: "Justin Morgan" <jmorgan@objectronics.com>
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Subject: Re: email conversion
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 02:43:10 -0700
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Neal Stoughton wrote in message <35EC057D.7EA9BC5B@uci.edu>...
>A friend of mine is switching (regretably) from nextstep to windows nt
>and is planning on using outlook express as his email client. He has a
>large number of archived emails that are on his nextstep system and he
>would like to convert them for use on outlook express. Does anyone have
>advice on how best to go about this? Thanks.
Does your friend *have* to use Outlook Express?
The latest WebObjects 4.0 beta for Windows NT includes a demo app called
MailViewer. It is basically the same as Mail.app on NEXTSTEP/OpenStep.
However, this release of MailViewer supports POP3 for sending and receiving
mail on Windows NT (and of course sendmail too), so it is a viable
alternative to Outlook Express. MailViewer has all the features of OE, plus
more.
Since both MailViewer and Mail use the same mailbox format, you can simply
copy over your ~/Mailboxes directory onto NT, point MailViewer at it, and
away you go. All of your old messages are still readable on NT. MailViewer
puts new messages into the folder that you copied to NT. No mailbox
conversion is necessary. (In a networked environment, another option is to
'map' your ~/Mailboxes folder onto your NT box, then point MailViewer at
that instead -- this allows you to access the same shared ~/Mailboxes folder
under either NT or OpenStep).
It is really nice being able to receive NeXT mail via MailViewer on my NT
box at work. MailViewer also understands MIME (much better than Mail ever
did, BTW) as well as plain old ASCII. MailViewer cannot send NeXT mail, so
if you forward a NeXT mail message it is automagically converted to MIME
before being sent.
I don't know if MailViewer is available with other releases of OpenStep/YB
for NT, but the version in WOF4beta is very stable and is much nicer than
Outlook Express IMHO (I have to use OE at home on Win95, a clearly inferior
product).
The latest MailViewer for NT is--by far--the better mailer solution if you
friend can obtain a copy from Apple. (Just because your friend has to use
NT doesn't mean s/he has to accept all the inferior technology from
Microsoft. :-)
Regards,
Justin Morgan
http://www.objectronics.com/
From: sdduncan@my-dejanews.com
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Subject: Alternative Wordprocessors for Nextstep
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:17:18 GMT
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I am posting this for Dr. William Timberlake. Please respond directly
to him at:
timberla@indiana.edu
-Regards
S. Duncan
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From: Bill Timberlake <timberla@data.psych.indiana.edu>
I have the last version of wordperfect for the next running under Nextstep
3.2, black hardware. It has served me well for years and allowed me to
exchange wp files on IBM formatted disks with windows machines without
difficulty except for some minor formatting issues about font size (and
inevitable tab issues), and also the occasional wordperfect file from a
windows machine that somehow contains code that quits wordperfect on the Next
every time I try to open it. Advice here is welcome--but I work around these
issues.
Unfortunately, two new difficulties have arisen because of changes in my
computing environment:
1. Trying to exchange disks with a Mac running wordperfect has proved much
harder--the conversion program doesn't seem to work as well..
2. Trying to exchange disks with a Mac running Word (a new requirement
imposed from above) borders on the time-wasting category.
Are there any wordprocessors that run under Nextstep that will let me use my
backlog of wordperfect files but trade disks more efficiently with word on
either MAC or Intel Windows platforms, or at least wordperfect on the MAC? Or
is this the beginning of the end?
Thanks,
-Bill Timberlake
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
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Subject: Shared libraries under OpenStep or Rapsody?
Date: 3 Sep 1998 14:46:37 -0700
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Hi,
Do either of these operating systems support
the dynamic linking of .so files?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: spagiola@my-dejanews.com
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Subject: Re: Alternative Wordprocessors for Nextstep
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 21:49:22 GMT
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> From: Bill Timberlake <timberla@data.psych.indiana.edu>
> I have the last version of wordperfect for the next running under Nextstep
> 3.2, black hardware. It has served me well for years and allowed me to
> exchange wp files on IBM formatted disks with windows machines without
> difficulty except for some minor formatting issues
> Unfortunately, two new difficulties have arisen because of changes in my
> computing environment:
> 1. Trying to exchange disks with a Mac running wordperfect has proved much
> harder--the conversion program doesn't seem to work as well..
> 2. Trying to exchange disks with a Mac running Word (a new requirement
> imposed from above) borders on the time-wasting category.
> Are there any wordprocessors that run under Nextstep that will let me use my
> backlog of wordperfect files but trade disks more efficiently with word on
> either MAC or Intel Windows platforms, or at least wordperfect on the MAC? Or
> is this the beginning of the end?
I've also used WP/NeXT for years, and had to interchange docs with Macs and
PCs, usually running Word.
To convert from all but the most recent versions of Word, I've found that
OpenWrite works well. I just doubleclick the word file, OpenWrite opens and
converts it, then I simply select all, copy, and paste it into WP. Aside from
minor formatting issues (for some reason, everything gets bolded, which means
that when I unbold it, individual bolds within the document get lost; YMMV),
this works well. I've had no problems doing this coming from Macs running
Word, although I don't usually use mac-formatted disks -- all my floppies are
DOS-formatted, since both my Mac and my NeXT can read that, but PCs can't
read anything else.
Nevertheless, I AM looking forward to running a more up to date word
processor under MacOS X Server, if only in the Blue Box at first. (Those of
you working on YB word processors for MOSX: the minimum feature set I need is
that of WordPerfect 5.1; provide that, and you've just made a sale.
unfortunately no NS or OS word processor except WP ever provided it.)
Stefano Pagiola
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From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
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Subject: Re: Tricks with eps files?
Date: 2 Sep 98 12:10:13
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In-reply-to: dunham@cs.tulane.edu's message of 2 Sep 1998 17:39:33 GMT
In article <6sjvsl$p58$1@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu>,
dunham@cs.tulane.edu (Andrea Dunham) writes:
I have many eps files (each file having one gnuplot plot) and I'd
like to print n-up (4 or 8) of the files per page. Do you know a
procedure/app that I can use?
I don't know of anything automatic. You should be able to drag&drop
them into a Draw or Diagram file, and muck with them there. In Draw,
you'd probably have to manually size them (use the Inspector and a bit
of math to keep the dimensions right) and arrange them. You could
most likely put one-per-page in Diagram, and then tell Diagram to
print them 2-up or 4-up or whatever to get the effect you desire.
You could probably also drop them into an Edit rtf file, size the
window to a close horizontal fit, and set to print 4-up.
Later,
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From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to shrink multi-arch executables?
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 08:26:59 +0200
Organization: IBM HD MicroCode
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Emmett McLean wrote:
>
> Try MetroSuction.app at peak.
>
> Emmett
>
> In article <EynuxJ.Mut@midway.uchicago.edu>,
> Andrew Chang <tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> >
> >This is maybe a very simple question, but I'm not quite familar with
> >Intel platform. Now I have NS installed on a Pentium, but the
> >disk space is tight. I'm think about squeeze the executables to
> >save more disk space. I remember this is doable. Can anyone tell me
> >what they do about this?
> >
> >Maybe NeXTAnswers can tell something... I'll check this also.
>
Or use "lipo" as an UNIX command. (lipo -thin i386 -o fn fn).
Henry
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ps2pdf
Date: 2 Sep 1998 13:58:34 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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References: <6shkq6$jhv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In article <6shkq6$jhv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@endeavour.mgmt.purdue.edu
(Jon Haveman) writes:
> Hi All,
> I'm told that a ps2pdf program exists for Solaris. Anybody know
> if a similar animal has been compiled for NS? I'm running OS4.2.
It's not a program, but a script that comes with ghostscript, as far as I
know.
You need 2 things: perl and ghostscript, both of which can be found at
peak:
http://www.peak.org/next/
and
http://www.peak.org/openstep/
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From: balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu (Balazs Pataki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIMP for NS3.3 uploaded
Date: 4 Sep 1998 10:42:34 GMT
Organization: Computer and Automation Institute
Message-ID: <6sog6q$1e4@lutra.sztaki.hu>
References: <Eyo59o.4yH@heller.altoetting-online.de>
Hi,
In article <Eyo59o.4yH@heller.altoetting-online.de>
heller@altoetting-online.de writes:
>
> If you have problems with the package, let me know!
>
Not really a problem but it is an Intel only binary. Can you bild it
Quad/Tri-fat? I can help building it for NS 3.3/Sparc.
Bye,
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Subject: Looking for an MP2 player
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hacker@computation.com
Message-ID: <LojH1.1$7k6.236@pull-feed.internetmci.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 22:11:55 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:11:55 EDT
Are there any good MP2 and MID players available for free? I've
checked FTP-PEAK and found several tools (MMP2, MMP, MIDIPlayer, etc)
but they don't work on my very generic Intel box with a soundcard.
MMPHelper requires a licence :-(.
So are there any *good* MP2 players out there? Don't make me resort to
using Windows, please!
- Hacker
From: "rob" <robert@ses.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIMP for NS3.3 uploaded
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 05:26:46 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
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In article <6sog6q$1e4@lutra.sztaki.hu> balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu (Balazs
Pataki) writes:
> Not really a problem but it is an Intel only binary. Can you bild it
> Quad/Tri-fat? I can help building it for NS 3.3/Sparc.
That is not so easy. The GIMP has literally 100s of makefiles and to
include the necessary flags everywhere is quite...intensive. in addition, I
would have to recompile the supporting libraries (gtk, etc.) and finally, I
think I only have the X11 libraries in intel format. And, it needs over
500MB of disk space to compile, probably even more if multi-architecture,
and 500MB was already stressing my limits! I could barely fit it on my
disk!
But Yosh, one of the GIMP maintainers, said he would include the necessary
source code changes so that the next (GIMP 1.1) version will compile on NS
out of the box.
Sorry for not having a better answer!
Bye,
Helmut
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From: Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Usenet Programms
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
Message-ID: <ONQ2Q5L29GA.346@nih2naaa.prod2.compuserve.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 07:14:13 -0400
Hi,
I got a Internet via CompuServe with ppp.
I can use webbrowser and ftpprograms but when ever I stat an
usenetprogram they didn't work.
I can start the programs (Alexandra or NewsGrazer) and then they
hang only the wheel is turning.
Did someone know what is wrong or how I must configure the apps
to work right.
Thanks.
--------------------------------------------------------------
L. Kwasniok
email: drjekylandmrhyde@csi.com (ASCII/MIME/NEXT)
--
Lutz Kwasniok
Hannover
Germany
Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (MIME, ASCII)
From: wbynum@cs.tamu.edu (Wade Eric Bynum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IBM UW 4gig on a Turbo Slab?
Date: 5 Sep 1998 19:56:25 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M Computer Science Department, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <6ss519$pq3$1@news.tamu.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Sep 1998 19:56:25 GMT
Anyone have ideas on how to get an IBM UW SCA 4gig hd
to work on a Turbo Mono Slab? The IBM drive is their
DCHS model 7200rpm drive. My Rom Monitor version is v.71.
I have an 80-50pin adapter that I use. I get an error
along the lines that the slab cannot intialize the hardrive
because no boot blocks can be found. Everything is properly
terminated and I know the hd is good because it works fine
on my pc. I have even gone so far as low level formatting
the drive, using my pc scsi card, but still no go.
Thanks for any help.
Wade
From: "Roberto Canazza" <rcanazz@tin.it>
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.sys.amiga.software,comp.sys.next.software,de.comm.software.forte-agent,de.etc.finanz.software,fido7.softw,geometry.software.dynamic,it.comp.software.eudora,it.comp.software.newsreader,it.comp.win95.software,misc.forsale.co
Subject: Ricerca
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 03:09:53 +0200
Organization: TIN
Message-ID: <6ssnk7$g1i$1@nslave1.tin.it>
Sono alla ricerca di questi programmi, dove posso trovarli?
ORCAD-
MICROCAP V (SPECTRUM)
POWER PC B (PADS)
Poiche ho inviato questa domanda a numerosi Newsgroup vi prego di rispondere
a questa e-mail: rTOGLIEREcanazz@tin.it
Grazie!
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From: WYSIWYG <jarcor@mail.bergen.org>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.x,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NeXT Operating System 3.0
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 21:37:08 -0400
Organization: Bergen County Technical Schools
Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.3.96.980905210612.-298663A-100000@oemcomputer>
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To: Multiple recipients of list <linux-pmac@samba.anu.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <19980904131522.A968@parakeetness.ml.org>
I have 2 NeXTstation computers one black&white and the other
color. The black&white one must be operational, while the color one is
just a luxury. That is why, when the power supply on the b&w one broke,
and I couldn't buy another, I replaced it with the one from the color
machine.
I am now looking to make both machines operational, and therefore
am looking to purchase a NeXTstation power supply from any one who wishes
to sell me one at a reasonable price.
Also, I am running NeXT OS 3.0 and was wondering if there are any
freely downloadable upgrades available, or if I could send away for a free
(not including s/h) CD upgrade.
I would also like the name of any US NeXTstation repairmen on the
East Coast, as I feel that there is something wrong with the color machine
(besides the fact that it doesn't have a power supply.)
Thanx for your time,
-jared
PS - Please send this message along to anyone whom you think might be
able to help.
PPS - please reply to my e-mail address as i do not regular these
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <6406904449623@digifix.com>
Date: 6 Sep 1998 03:47:39 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <2705905054425@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
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These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
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INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
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SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
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If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
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Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
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From: "sarawoot" <c641625@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Digitising VDO on ND?
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 00:53:47 -0500
Organization: N/A
Message-ID: <6st8e1$une$1@news.missouri.edu>
Hi there,
Are there any one has experinece in "digitizing the VDO signal to your cube
by using the ND Board"? What is the software that you use though... I'm
really curious...
Thnk a lot for any help :)
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIMP for NS3.3 uploaded
Date: 5 Sep 98 11:58:21
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SCOTT.98Sep5115821@slave.doubleu.com>
References: <6sog6q$1e4@lutra.sztaki.hu> <EyspsM.182@heller.altoetting-online.de>
In-reply-to: heller@altoetting-online.de's message of Sat, 5 Sep 1998 05:26:46 GMT
In article <EyspsM.182@heller.altoetting-online.de>,
heller@altoetting-online.de writes:
In article <6sog6q$1e4@lutra.sztaki.hu>
balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu (Balazs Pataki) writes:
> Not really a problem but it is an Intel only binary. Can you bild
> it Quad/Tri-fat? I can help building it for NS 3.3/Sparc.
That is not so easy. The GIMP has literally 100s of makefiles and
to include the necessary flags everywhere is quite...intensive.
A couple options:
o You could compile for each architecture seperately, and then lipo
the results together. Of course, this requires machines with each
architecture to compile on...
o Create a cc shell script, and use that instead of cc. Have the
shell script add whatever is necessary to get things compiling to
the right architectures. The downside of this is that not all
programs can handle fat files (ar comes to mind - solution would be
to do single-architecture compiles using the shell script to
provide -arch flags, and then lipo things together at the end).
o You might also be able to accomplish something by messing with
/lib/*/specs to setup default flags. I have no idea how that file
works, though, I just know it has interesting info in it.
And, it needs over 500MB of disk space to compile, probably even
more if multi-architecture, and 500MB was already stressing my
limits! I could barely fit it on my disk!
_That_ will be a tougher nut to crack. It would seem to indicate the
"compile it all and lipo the results" route as the best to go down.
But Yosh, one of the GIMP maintainers, said he would include the
necessary source code changes so that the next (GIMP 1.1) version
will compile on NS out of the box.
That sounds like the best option. But it might require more changes
to compile on Sparc and m68k...
Later,
--
scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/
<Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots
Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Alain Kreienbuhl <alkr@club-internet.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.javascript,comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Javascript not defined error (WebObject . netscape 0S/2)
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 11:38:36 +0200
Organization: Club-Internet (France)
Message-ID: <35F2581C.E8057B29@club-internet.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Hello,
We are trying to trace to following problem:
On a Webobject Application we sometimes get the :
'<someobject> not defined error'.
This error happens in a random fashion.
The application is used only on netscape 2.02
On OS/2 (yes) plateform
Any leads are welcome.
Thanks, alain
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to shrink multi-arch executables?
Date: 3 Sep 1998 11:40:04 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6smnq4$g3h@slip.net>
References: <EynuxJ.Mut@midway.uchicago.edu>
Try MetroSuction.app at peak.
Emmett
In article <EynuxJ.Mut@midway.uchicago.edu>,
Andrew Chang <tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
>This is maybe a very simple question, but I'm not quite familar with
>Intel platform. Now I have NS installed on a Pentium, but the
>disk space is tight. I'm think about squeeze the executables to
>save more disk space. I remember this is doable. Can anyone tell me
>what they do about this?
>
>Maybe NeXTAnswers can tell something... I'll check this also.
>
From: trail@ix.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IBM UW 4gig on a Turbo Slab?
Date: 6 Sep 1998 12:06:53 GMT
Organization: ICGNetcom
Message-ID: <6sttst$c35@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>
References: <6ss519$pq3$1@news.tamu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <6ss519$pq3$1@news.tamu.edu>
On 09/05/98, Wade Eric Bynum wrote:
>Anyone have ideas on how to get an IBM UW SCA 4gig hd
>to work on a Turbo Mono Slab? The IBM drive is their
>DCHS model 7200rpm drive. My Rom Monitor version is v.71.
>I have an 80-50pin adapter that I use. I get an error
>along the lines that the slab cannot intialize the hardrive
>because no boot blocks can be found. Everything is properly
>terminated and I know the hd is good because it works fine
>on my pc. I have even gone so far as low level formatting
>the drive, using my pc scsi card, but still no go.
>
You don't state which version of NeXTstep you're using, but if its
before 3.3, then you will not be able to use the disk without making
up a disktab for it (that's assuming the disk is hardware compatible).
Take a look in NeXTanswers for something titled like "Intitializing
Large Disks", and it will give you the procedure to follow.
Regards,
Jeff
trail@ix.netcom.com
From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.javascript,comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Javascript not defined error (WebObject . netscape 0S/2)
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 12:56:16 +0000
Organization: Forsee with Style
Message-ID: <35F28670.43358D6D@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
References: <35F2581C.E8057B29@club-internet.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a shopping cart (trolley) type client JavaScript application, the
list of items choosen, are (often) stored in an object in the top frame
of a frameset.
The object constructors and prototypes don't work in early versions of
the browsers.
If you access a sub-frame (url) of a frameset instead of the whole
frameset, then objects in the top or other frames are not available to
this sub-frame.
In making a site IE3.02 compatable, you can easily make it break in
Netscape. (IMHO, IE3.02 compatiblity is the most annoying and
frustrating part of JavaScript work.)
Often links are replaced by form/submit buttons (IE3.02 compatiblity),
the onSubmit code replaces the page/frame. Any links to other pages can
mess up on the return back to this page.
I saw Netscape 4 advertised for OS/2 (Warp).
Alain Kreienbuhl wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> We are trying to trace to following problem:
>
> On a Webobject Application we sometimes get the :
> '<someobject> not defined error'.
> This error happens in a random fashion.
> The application is used only on netscape 2.02
> On OS/2 (yes) plateform
>
> Any leads are welcome.
>
> Thanks, alain
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From: dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright)
Subject: EOF to SQL Server Help
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net/
Message-ID: <35f29cd0.0@news.dca.net>
Date: 6 Sep 98 14:31:44 GMT
Ok, I've got EOF loaded and I'm trying to connect to my SQL server....but
When I try to login it gives me: SYBASE:SERVER not found in interface
file.
Where is the darned interface file????
-Darren
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EOF to SQL Server Help
Date: 6 Sep 1998 14:53:42 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright) wrote:
>Ok, I've got EOF loaded and I'm trying to connect to my SQL server....but
>When I try to login it gives me: SYBASE:SERVER not found in interface
>file.
>
>Where is the darned interface file????
Did you install the libraries that came with Sybase? You need those
in order to create a remote connection.
Chris
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Hello all,
I recently tried writing a small c++ program on my next that utilized
the iostream.h header file to do the cin cout stuff and when I compiled
it sayed that it couldn't find iostream.h. I poked around looking for
some obvious reason that the file would not be found and could not find
the problem. The file existed under /NextDeveloper/headers/g++. So I
went and figured now would be a good time to upgrade to the latest
realease of gcc with g++ and downloaded all the source from Peanuts.
After compiling the new gcc and g++ I still get an error stating that
it cannot find iostream.h. I have now tried all sorts of crazy
maneauvers just to get g++ to actually find the file, but it won't. So
my question is, what directory would g++ be looking for the file in if
it is not found in /usr/local/lib/m68k-next-bsd/2.5.7/include/g++ (which
is what the gcc manuals tell me the default directory for g++ include
files should be)? Is there an environment variable that can be set here
to solve all of my problems? Hopefully this is not too base of a
question to provoke a few answers...
Thanks in advance,
Nicholas Floersch
From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EOF = ODBC?
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:30:11 +0000
Organization: Forsee with Style
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Vauge guess, is MS SQL Server Sybase compatible
Darren Wright wrote:
>
> Is there any equivalent to Windows ODBC for NextSTEP? I'd like to pull
> data from a microsoft SQL server...is there any way?
>
> -Darren
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From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Shared libraries under OpenStep or Rapsody?
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:22:52 -0700
Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16
Message-ID: <1detpwr.15kprjpkd97heN@h209-21-28-213.ncal.verio.net>
References: <6sn2nt$s2h@slip.net>
Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote:
> Do either of these operating systems support
> the dynamic linking of .so files?
Both OPENSTEP and MacOS X Server 1.0 (AKA Rhapsody) support dynamic
shared libraries.
The format of the shared library file differs fron the Solaris .so
format.
Shared libraries can be easily constructed using the ProjectBuilder IDE,
by creating a project of type 'Framework'. Frameworks include the
shared library, and optionally non-localized resources such as data
tables and some icons, localized information for multiple languages such
as archived UI elements (nib files) and icons, and header files for API
exported by your framework.
--
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From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can hostmanager help me?
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 10:30:57 +0100
Organization: KVI
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Hi all,
I spent all sunday trying to change the ip-address and hostname of my
openstep/mach 4.1 intel
machine. It is at the moment configured as a non-netinfo machine in a
class-c network (peer-to-peer) and it needs to move to another class-c
network where it again will be a non-netinfo machine. When i startup up
hostmanger (as root) and go to Local i can see the fields where i once
entered the hostname and ip-address but i'm not able to change them for
some reason. I can go hack around and edit some files like
/etc/host.conf but i'm not sure things will stay consistent if i do it
like that. Can someone tell me how this is done properly?
Thanks a lot,
Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can hostmanager help me?
References: <35F3B5E1.47AFD19@KVI.NL>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35f39efd.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 7 Sep 98 08:53:17 GMT
Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I spent all sunday trying to change the ip-address and hostname of my
>openstep/mach 4.1 intel
>machine. It is at the moment configured as a non-netinfo machine in a
>class-c network (peer-to-peer) and it needs to move to another class-c
>network where it again will be a non-netinfo machine. When i startup up
>hostmanger (as root) and go to Local i can see the fields where i once
>entered the hostname and ip-address but i'm not able to change them for
>some reason. I can go hack around and edit some files like
>/etc/host.conf but i'm not sure things will stay consistent if i do it
>like that. Can someone tell me how this is done properly?
First I would back up /etc, /etc/hostconfig, /etc/netinfo to some place where
I can find it in singleuser-mode.
Then I would start HostManager, change the IP-Address in /etc/hostconfig and
use Open->Host in HostManager. There I would select / and then my machines
name. This will bring up the properties of the machine and I could change the
IP-Address again. After a reboot the IP-Address (for a standalone machine!!!)
is changed. Never try this procedure for a netinfo-cluster! All at your own
risk!
greets
Sven
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From: dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright)
Subject: EOF = ODBC?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net/
Message-ID: <35f01cb4.0@news.dca.net>
Date: 4 Sep 98 17:00:36 GMT
Is there any equivalent to Windows ODBC for NextSTEP? I'd like to pull
data from a microsoft SQL server...is there any way?
-Darren
From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Andrew Knight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EOF to SQL Server Help
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 10:24:45 GMT
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In <35f29cd0.0@news.dca.net> Darren Wright wrote:
> Ok, I've got EOF loaded and I'm trying to connect to my SQL server....but
> When I try to login it gives me: SYBASE:SERVER not found in interface
> file.
>
> Where is the darned interface file????
/usr/sybase/interfaces
--
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From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IBM UW 4gig on a Turbo Slab?
Date: 6 Sep 1998 05:08:19 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
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In <6ss519$pq3$1@news.tamu.edu> Wade Eric Bynum wrote:
> Anyone have ideas on how to get an IBM UW SCA 4gig hd
> to work on a Turbo Mono Slab? The IBM drive is their
> DCHS model 7200rpm drive. My Rom Monitor version is v.71.
> I have an 80-50pin adapter that I use. I get an error
> along the lines that the slab cannot intialize the hardrive
> because no boot blocks can be found. Everything is properly
> terminated and I know the hd is good because it works fine
> on my pc. I have even gone so far as low level formatting
> the drive, using my pc scsi card, but still no go.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
Funny people think if it works on the PC it'll work on the slab.
In general yes. I don't have any IBM drives to mess with
so I can't say definatively.
BUT. I'm not sure how your slab with 3.1v71 ROM will react
to a boot drive that may not be able to do async on boot.
It may be your drive CAN do it, but the scsi controller 53C90A
on the slab and the drivers arn't doing the right thing.. Could
also be the ROM.. Could be the jumpers on the drive.
BTW: You don't say exactly which drive you have.
I'm guessing the 34550. What the E,U,Y, etc differences
are it's hard to say.
You also don't say how your initializing that drive. From
BuildDisk, or from a boot off flopppy/CD-ROM?
If your having problems with BuildDisk - then I'd wonder
if you can even see the drive in the boot sequence. If the drive
shows up in the boot sequence - then I wonder if you can hit
it with disk. If so then you should be able to build a disktab
for it and initialize it from the command line - or if you do the
disktab label properly - just from BuildDisk.
BTW: I don't know about the IBM - I could look it up - but
so can you - (give a URL to the jumper specs, etc.) but most
80pin drives I've seen CAN NOT be terminated on the drive
(some yes, many no). Unless you have a 80-50 pin adapter
that has termination built on the board.
I take that back. Checking the following URL
http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/dchs/dchsjum.htm
indicates indeed there is a jumper to enable termination. (one
to enable power the other to enable active termination)
Also there are jumpers for the following.
25 - Disable sync negotiations.
Interesting jumpering pin 13-14 is supposed to disable wide
n.
Regardless I would read carefully those jumper specifications and the
other references. Once you can get the drive to show up in the boot
sequence you should have some hope. Also be more specific
in what you are trying to do the errors, etc. You want to make sure
that drive is not trying to do wide or sync negotiation. Check out
the Disable T.L. sync. negotiation pin.
I've seen errors like you have above under a number of different
circumstances, most often related to termination/cabling, or the drive
not being jumpered to async mode. Also if your drive is OEM that
could be the cause of all kinds of problems.
Randy
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From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can hostmanager help me? NOT
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 14:12:07 +0100
Organization: KVI
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Sven Droll wrote:
> Please read
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
> Subject: Help: changing IP address on Black hardware
>
> and answers for more informed details
I did this but it doesn't help me. The questions are:
1. Why can't i just edit the fields in Hostmanager/Local. All i can do
there is select netmasks, router and stuff like that but the i just
acnnot change the contents of the ip-address and hostname. Bug? Or is
there some reasoning behind this?
2. If i do it 'low-level', ie editing the /etc/hostconfig file , will
everything still work or do i need tot edit other files also?
Thanks for responding,
Marcel
From: tvz@nospam.nwu.edu (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can hostmanager help me?
Date: 7 Sep 1998 19:26:01 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
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In <35F3B5E1.47AFD19@KVI.NL> Marcel Volkerts wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I spent all sunday trying to change the ip-address and hostname of my
> openstep/mach 4.1 intel
> machine. It is at the moment configured as a non-netinfo machine in a
> class-c network (peer-to-peer) and it needs to move to another class-c
> network where it again will be a non-netinfo machine. When i startup up
> hostmanger (as root) and go to Local i can see the fields where i once
> entered the hostname and ip-address but i'm not able to change them for
> some reason. I can go hack around and edit some files like
> /etc/host.conf but i'm not sure things will stay consistent if i do it
> like that. Can someone tell me how this is done properly?
On openstep/mach 4.2, I have never run into this. Try changing things
when you are NOT connected to the network. Then, under the netinfo
binding section of the HostManager/Local window, select `Use local
domain only'. Then under the Hostname section, click on the radio button
underneath the Autoconfigure button. At this point you should be able to
enter the hostname in the cell.
Otherwise, go ahead and edit /private/etc/hostconfig. It is pretty
straightforward,
and my understanding is that when netinfo is not running, this
HostManager/Local
window is simply a gui interface to /private/etc/hostconfig.
The other file you may have to edit is /private/etc/resolv.conf, where you
enter
the domain name and nameserver(s). E.g.,
domain kellogg.nwu.edu
nameserver 129.105.97.2
tim
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From: Bill Nixon <bnixon@computer.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Java Runtime for OpenStep/Mach
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 16:50:32 -0400
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Does anyone know if a Java Runtime for OpenStep/Mach exists? I've
queried various search engines, but can't find any ports.
Thanks,
Bill
From: dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright)
Subject: EOF Quantrix to SQL Server help
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net/
Message-ID: <35f32cec.0@news.dca.net>
Date: 7 Sep 98 00:46:36 GMT
Ok here is my final goal. I've got a SQL server with some data that I
want to manipulate in quantrix . I downloaded the Quantrix EOF
version.. And I can see the tables on the SQL server using the EOF
viewer. Hoe do I link the tables in SQL server to Quantrix EOF?
-Darren
From: sun@unity.ncsu.edu (Ying-Hsuan Sun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: postgresql 3.3 port?
Date: 8 Sep 1998 03:12:20 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <6t27ak$sa8$2@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu>
Does anyone know if the binaries of Postgresql for 3.3 exits?
Ying-Hsuan Sun
From: wbynum@cs.tamu.edu (Wade Eric Bynum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IBM UW 4gig on a Turbo Slab?
Date: 8 Sep 1998 03:33:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M Computer Science Department, College Station, TX
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References: <6ss519$pq3$1@news.tamu.edu> <6sttst$c35@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Sep 1998 03:33:00 GMT
I would like to thank everyone that responded to my
problem with the IBM hd. Unfortunately, I could not get
it working with my slab. I tried every different jumper
setting imaginable and even made a disktab entry, but
luck was not on my side. I guess it was just to new of a
hd for such an old computer. The IBM hd is not being wasted
though, as I now have linux on it.
So my new question is, what is a 2-4gig hd that is fully
compatible with a mono turbo slab? I am hoping to spend
around $100-$200 for a 5400rpm drive. Thanks for any
suggestion.
--
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35f3a07a.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 7 Sep 98 08:59:38 GMT
Sorry for the followup, but from a thread in csn.sysadmin I think that under
Openstep the /etc/hostconfig may have been altered. So the answer I posted
before is perhaps ONLY VALID FOR NEXTSTEP 3.3. Please read
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help: changing IP address on Black hardware
and answers for more informed details
Sorry again
Sven
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From: holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Java Runtime for OpenStep/Mach
Date: 7 Sep 1998 22:03:03 GMT
Organization: The secret circle of the NSRC
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Bill Nixon wrote:
> Does anyone know if a Java Runtime for OpenStep/Mach exists? I've
> queried various search engines, but can't find any ports.
None that I know of..many moons ago there was a port of the kaffe VM,
and it actually ran a couple of (non-AWT) programs, but was not stable
enough for serious use. Since then, kaffe has undergone major changes;
the web pages at http://www.transvirtual.com/kaffe.html say that the
latest release runs on OPENSTEP/Mach 3.x and 4.x. Despite several attempts
I couldn't get it up and running yet on 4.2. It still seems to use the
old rld() interface for dynamic loading, and trying to use rld on 4.2
amounts to an exercise in futility..
I'd be most interested to hear if anybody has already looked into
the necessary modifications for a 'true' 4.x port, and checking that
back into the general distribution. At least for headless stuff a
supported, stable Java VM would surely be nice to have on Mach 4.2.
Holger
Message-ID: <35F597E5.AA5467E7@entrust.com>
From: Rob Parkhill <rob.parkhill@entrust.com>
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Howdy Folks:
I'm looking to -downgrade- the OS on my aging NeXTstation
25MHz to either NeXTstep 2.1 or 2.2 (basically the same release,
I think 2.2 added ADB support?)
Now, I have CDs back to 3.0, but my system came with 2.1 pre-installed,
so I don't have any install media for it. Was it ever available on
CD? Or was it on MO only?
If someone has 2.1 or 2.2 kicking around, and would be willing to
burn it onto a CD for me, or lend me the CD (if it exists!) for a
couple of days, it would be greatly appreciated.
later...
Rob
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 2.1/2.2
Date: 8 Sep 1998 21:00:44 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
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In article <35F597E5.AA5467E7@entrust.com>,
Rob Parkhill <rob.parkhill@entrust.com> wrote:
>Now, I have CDs back to 3.0, but my system came with 2.1 pre-installed,
>so I don't have any install media for it. Was it ever available on
>CD? Or was it on MO only?
>
I know that 2.x Extended was available on a sea of floppies...
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Subject: Re: NeXTstep 2.1/2.2
Date: 9 Sep 1998 02:16:17 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
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In <905288444.247119@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote:
> In article <35F597E5.AA5467E7@entrust.com>,
> Rob Parkhill <rob.parkhill@entrust.com> wrote:
>
> >Now, I have CDs back to 3.0, but my system came with 2.1
led,
> >so I don't have any install media for it. Was it ever available on
> >CD? Or was it on MO only?
> >
>
> I know that 2.x Extended was available on a sea of floppies...
>
>
I'm sure I have a set of the 'sea of floppies' with 2.1. I havn't seen
anyone with copies of 2.2. I'm going to try to grab binary copies of
the 2.1
floppies. I know I also have copies of 1.0, 2.0, 2.1 on 1x
ctor 650MB
carts (bootable :).
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
spammers works also :)
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In <6t6c9p$snr$1@pith.uoregon.edu> Wesley Horner wrote:
> Sven Droll <sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:
>
> > This would be nice, but IMHO NeXT is as restrictive as MicroS*ft
oncerning
> > there old software, what means that you never will download old
XTstep-OSes
> As I recall having a NeXT is the proof for the 2.x license. Since it
t only runs
> on NeXT hardware it shouldn't be a problem. But then agian I'll bet
they
> wouldn't be pleased about it on ftp. I'd love to have a set of
es to for
> prosperity but I doubt I would find much use for them.
>
> wes
I'm sure Wes is correct. If you have black hardware
then you have a license to 2.x. I'm not sure about 3.0
or up. I think some points to be remembered. First they are
2.88M images (how many people have 2.88 diskettes
;). Second they are only useful on black hardware,
nothing else can use them.
I'd guess that a case could be made that someone
could figure out how to extract the data which would
violate the licensing restrictions.
BTW: I tried to nab a few images off a couple 2.88's and
as I suspected they've been lying around too long - media
errors.. Floppies stink for storing stuff long term. More so
the higher the density. I don't think it will be easily possible
to reconstruct these floppy images, and you'd have to lay
your hands on about 40 2.88 diskettes.. Though I guess
if you were patient you could use 2-5 of them and just
burn new images as you go along. (provided you have
a second machine with 2.88M floppy)
Maybe someday if I have the urge and other people
have sets of these floppies together we could find
the pieces of the media holes on our floppies and
reconstruct these images.. If someone wants to try
to contact Apple and see whether they'd give permission
I'd be willing to undertake the task and put them online
for download..
Potentially a better solution might be to make a binary copy
of some 1.0, 2.0, 2.1 distributions that would be bootable on a
SCSI disk. Though it will be big - 70MB for bare install, up to
170-200MB for full install.
Thing is at least with 1.0 there was mathematica, and other
programs that were 3rd party in the OS and I'm not at all sure
would happen there.
Does Apple still sell NS3.x. I'm rather sure no-one sells 2.x
or prior and if you have black hardware you do have a RTU
for those versions.
I'm open to ideas and options. But talking to Apple is like talking
to my computer. Not a lot happens but at least I feel better for
saying something. :) I'll be pleasantly suprised when my
computer or better Apple talks back!
Otherwise I do plan on making a long trip (2 months)
sweeping south through Texas, Arizona, up through California,
Oregon, Washington, to Utah - and hopefully straight across the
northern climbs back to Michigan this winter (It'll be a challenge).
I'm looking for places to stay, and people to visit, possibly a new
job, etc.
What better than to hang out with the NeXT folk (and friends) here
and there.. I could bring a 2.6G MO drive and a few well chosen
carts, a smiling face, helpful hands and brilliant mind ;)
Randy
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From: Jazbo <jazbo@jazbo.com>
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Subject: Installing NS 3.2 on Intel
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:41:40 -0400
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I've been the proud owner & continuous user of a NeXT Cube since
1991. But, the old girl is showing her age. The serial ports
went south last year & now the MO-CD has died. I have a spare
partition on my Pentium box --- is there a way I can install
3.2 on it? I have the NeXT version CD & installation floppies
for NS 3.2, but these don't seem to be useable on Intel. I can
live with Linux, but I sure would like to salvage most of the
stuff I've got on beloved Cube.
--jazbo <jazbo@jazbo.com>
From: Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se>
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Subject: Jessycad problems
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:31:29 +0200
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Hello NeXT community,
I wanted to try out jessycad an my TurboColor (NS 3.2 with EOF
installed), but I was not able to start it. I tried to download it from
two different location (Peanuts and Peak), but the Console gave the
following error message
loadNIBSection: assaertion failed could not load data
or something like that.
Has abybody run across this problem? Is there a workaround?
Harald
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35f63978.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 9 Sep 98 08:16:56 GMT
Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL> wrote:
---snip---
>1. Why can't i just edit the fields in Hostmanager/Local. All i can do
>there is select netmasks, router and stuff like that but the i just
>acnnot change the contents of the ip-address and hostname. Bug? Or is
>there some reasoning behind this?
The IP in Local will be inserted if you change it in /etc/hostconfig AND with
Hostmanager (over the Open -> / -> your machine -menu)
>2. If i do it 'low-level', ie editing the /etc/hostconfig file , will
>everything still work or do i need tot edit other files also?
I would say NO. You have at least to edit the netinfo-entry for your machine
with Hostmanager or NetInfoManager ...
Sven
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35f63c6f.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 9 Sep 98 08:29:35 GMT
Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> wrote:
>Hello NeXT community,
>
>I wanted to try out jessycad an my TurboColor (NS 3.2 with EOF
>installed), but I was not able to start it. I tried to download it from
>two different location (Peanuts and Peak), but the Console gave the
>following error message
>
>loadNIBSection: assaertion failed could not load data
>
>or something like that.
>
>Has abybody run across this problem? Is there a workaround?
The Peanutsversion runs here on black and white with NS 3.3, Patch and EOF.
But it is very Frensh and needs a licensenumber ...
Sven
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From: maury@creapharm.fr
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Subject: Year 200 Sybase library
Date: 9 Sep 1998 08:45:33 GMT
Organization: Alienor Informatique, Bordeaux, France
Message-ID: <6t5f7d$5k$1@ai.alienor.fr>
In the Apple Web site I read that on mach Openstep OS the Sybase client Library may have problem with year 2000.
Does anyone have more information about this.
Marc Maury
CREAPHARM
maury@creapharm.fr
From: Wesley Horner <wesman@azrael.uoregon.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 2.1/2.2
Date: 9 Sep 1998 17:01:45 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene
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Sven Droll <sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:
> This would be nice, but IMHO NeXT is as restrictive as MicroS*ft concerning
> there old software, what means that you never will download old NeXTstep-OSes
As I recall having a NeXT is the proof for the 2.x license. Since it only runs
on NeXT hardware it shouldn't be a problem. But then agian I'll bet they
wouldn't be pleased about it on ftp. I'd love to have a set of images to for
prosperity but I doubt I would find much use for them.
wes
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
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Date: 10 Sep 98 08:44:52 GMT
"Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com> wrote:
>sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote:
>[ ... ]
>> This would be nice, but IMHO NeXT is as restrictive as MicroS*ft
concerning
>> there old software, what means that you never will download old
>> NeXTstep-OSes from anon-ftp (sad but true)
>
>Sigh. Yet another person who doesn't understand the word "royalties"....
Do you mean the "regal character or bearing" or "a payment made to an author
or composer for each copy of his work sold or to an inventor for each article
sold under a patent"?
Sven
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From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
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Subject: Re: Can hostmanager help me? NOT
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:59:21 +0100
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Emmett McLean wrote:
>
> Sven is right,
>
> If you read www.peak.org/~luomat and read the
> instructions on setting up a machine with a
> cable modem you will find step by step instructions
> on how to use hostmanager and network manager
> to set up your machine.
>
> Like Sven I do not recommend editing file by hand.
>
> Emmett
>
Hmm..
First of all, thanks to everyone who responded. In the end I decided to
edit the files by hand and it all works fine now.
Bye,
Marcel
From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Display trouble
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 20:57:21 +0000
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Have you tried "Config=Default" to the boot prompt this should boot with
standard VGA 640x480, now you can use Configure.app to select a lower
refresh rate.
Brendan Rankin wrote:
>
> I have inadvertently set the display settings outside the scan range of
> my video card. I am running Openstep 4.2/Mach on an Intel machine. When
> bootup is complete, I get an OUT OF SCAN RANGE message on the monitor,
> and cannot proceed any further. Can the display settings be altered
> during the bootup phase (ie: by typing '?' at the beginning and entering
> a config setting there?
>
> Prompt help would be appreciated.
>
> Brendan.
> rankin@indigo.ie
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Sven is right,
If you read www.peak.org/~luomat and read the
instructions on setting up a machine with a
cable modem you will find step by step instructions
on how to use hostmanager and network manager
to set up your machine.
Like Sven I do not recommend editing file by hand.
Emmett
Sven Droll <sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:
>Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL> wrote:
>---snip---
>>1. Why can't i just edit the fields in Hostmanager/Local. All i can do
>>there is select netmasks, router and stuff like that but the i just
>>acnnot change the contents of the ip-address and hostname. Bug? Or is
>>there some reasoning behind this?
>
>The IP in Local will be inserted if you change it in /etc/hostconfig AND with
>Hostmanager (over the Open -> / -> your machine -menu)
>
>>2. If i do it 'low-level', ie editing the /etc/hostconfig file , will
>>everything still work or do i need tot edit other files also?
>
>I would say NO. You have at least to edit the netinfo-entry for your machine
>with Hostmanager or NetInfoManager ...
>
>Sven
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From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Installing NS 3.2 on Intel
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:02:42 +0000
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You should have an Intel install diskette and driver diskette, but I
think you can get the images from NeXTAnswers, the CD should be one that
supports both architectures to work. As a indication there should be
some xxx.config file-folders for the device drivers on the CD. Some
things don't work because of byte swapping between Intel and Motorola
(or not byte swapping).
Jazbo wrote:
>
> I've been the proud owner & continuous user of a NeXT Cube since
> 1991. But, the old girl is showing her age. The serial ports
> went south last year & now the MO-CD has died. I have a spare
> partition on my Pentium box --- is there a way I can install
> 3.2 on it? I have the NeXT version CD & installation floppies
> for NS 3.2, but these don't seem to be useable on Intel. I can
> live with Linux, but I sure would like to salvage most of the
> stuff I've got on beloved Cube.
>
> --jazbo <jazbo@jazbo.com>
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From: pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 2.1/2.2
Date: 10 Sep 1998 19:21:45 GMT
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<spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com> wrote:
>In <6t6c9p$snr$1@pith.uoregon.edu> Wesley Horner wrote:
>> Sven Droll <sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:
>>
>> > This would be nice, but IMHO NeXT is as restrictive as MicroS*ft
>oncerning
>> > there old software, what means that you never will download old
>XTstep-OSes
>> As I recall having a NeXT is the proof for the 2.x license. Since it
>t only runs
>> on NeXT hardware it shouldn't be a problem. But then agian I'll bet
> they
>> wouldn't be pleased about it on ftp. I'd love to have a set of
>es to for
>> prosperity but I doubt I would find much use for them.
>>
>> wes
>
>I'm sure Wes is correct. If you have black hardware
>then you have a license to 2.x. I'm not sure about 3.0
>or up. I think some points to be remembered. First they are
>2.88M images (how many people have 2.88 diskettes
> ;). Second they are only useful on black hardware,
>nothing else can use them.
>
>I'd guess that a case could be made that someone
>could figure out how to extract the data which would
>violate the licensing restrictions.
>
>BTW: I tried to nab a few images off a couple 2.88's and
>as I suspected they've been lying around too long - media
>errors.. Floppies stink for storing stuff long term. More so
>the higher the density. I don't think it will be easily possible
>to reconstruct these floppy images, and you'd have to lay
>your hands on about 40 2.88 diskettes.. Though I guess
>if you were patient you could use 2-5 of them and just
>burn new images as you go along. (provided you have
>a second machine with 2.88M floppy)
>
>Maybe someday if I have the urge and other people
>have sets of these floppies together we could find
>the pieces of the media holes on our floppies and
>reconstruct these images.. If someone wants to try
>to contact Apple and see whether they'd give permission
>I'd be willing to undertake the task and put them online
>for download..
>
>Potentially a better solution might be to make a binary copy
>of some 1.0, 2.0, 2.1 distributions that would be bootable on a
>SCSI disk. Though it will be big - 70MB for bare install, up to
>170-200MB for full install.
>
My first NeXT ("vanilla" slab) came with 2.1, and no media. I have
upgraded the disk and the OS, but I saved the old disk, with the 2.1
install on it. (It is only a 200 meg disk; actually, I *did* run the
"prepare to upgrade" program that came with NS 3.2, so that I would be
able to upgrade from the CD-ROM drive, but I never actually upgraded
2.1. So, while I can't say that this is a 100% original 2.1, it is
pretty close.) In any case, it has always seemed to me that the way to
go is to buy one of those 210 meg 1/2 height (Quantum, if you want to be
original) SCSI disks--they are available for around $10, used--and
simply builddisk one from the 2.1 disk that I have. I'm rather pressed
for time these days, but I could offer--eventually--to do this for
people who would send me the hard disk, and pay for shipping.
Would I really be violating any licensing agreements? I don't quite
see how, given the Right To Use agreement that is included with black
hardware.
PB Schechter
pb@colorado.edu
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 2.1/2.2
Date: 10 Sep 1998 20:09:17 GMT
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sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote:
[ ... ]
>>> This would be nice, but IMHO NeXT is as restrictive as MicroS*ft
>>> concerning there old software, what means that you never will download
>>> old NeXTstep-OSes from anon-ftp (sad but true)
>>
>> Sigh. Yet another person who doesn't understand the word "royalties"....
>
> Do you mean the "regal character or bearing" or "a payment made to an author
> or composer for each copy of his work sold or to an inventor for each
> article sold under a patent"?
The latter.
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>Speaking of which, if anyone would like to part with an Adaptec 1542 and
>compatable CD drive cheap, let me know :)
Try :
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=29435520
Emmett
From: reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de (Reinhard Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Color Printer PPD??
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:37:25 GMT
Organization: University of Giessen, Germany
Message-ID: <35f8e0a4.5399559@news.uni-giessen.de>
Hello to the remaining NeXTies....
I am in need of an idea on how to print to the NeXT Color printer via
the network. Can´t find a PPD file to use the Adobe postscript drivers
from within Schwintel systems.
Anyone tried with an lpr substitute?
Couldn´t find anything re this problem in dejanews - hey that´s
impossible.... someone must have tried before??
Any help appreciated
Reinhard
------------------
Reinhard Wolf
Rodheimerstr. 30
35398 Giessen
Germany
email: reinhard.wolf@org.chemie.uni-giessen.de
From: MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max Barel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Jessycad problems
Date: 11 Sep 1998 23:16:45 GMT
Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider)
Distribution: world
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Cc: ellmann@msi.se
In <35F62AC3.5BF72AE2@msi.se> Harald Ellmann wrote:
> Hello NeXT community,
>
> I wanted to try out jessycad an my TurboColor (NS 3.2 with EOF
> installed), but I was not able to start it. I tried to download it from
> two different location (Peanuts and Peak), but the Console gave the
> following error message
>
> loadNIBSection: assaertion failed could not load data
>
> or something like that.
>
> Has abybody run across this problem? Is there a workaround?
>
It was the same for me the first time i run it.
But some time after i tried again and worked. I believe that you need the
system patch (from NextAnswer) installed to get it running.
BTW i'm on 3.3 so i don't know if this info is pertinent for you.
Max
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From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anyone using RadicalNews 0.9.6 on 4.2 notice the following bug
Date: 12 Sep 1998 03:10:42 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
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Anyone notice RadicalNews 0.9.6 for 4.2 on White chopping
the last words in lines inappropriately. Here are some examples.
http://x14.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=389246787&CONTEXT=905569720.1600389150&hitnum=0
or
http://x14.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=389594246&CONTEXT=905569720.1600389150&hitnum=7
Or am I just doing something wrong by putting hard returns at the end of lines?!
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
spammers works also :)
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Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.)
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tcl8.0.3 on NS3.3 m58k??
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:31:04 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
Sender: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller)
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Hello,
I am trying to compile tcl8.0.3 on black (m68k) NextSTEP3.3. I solved the
trivial problems (a -posix here or there, some missing functions, etc.) and
it compiles without problems. However, when I run tclsh it just eats up all
the memory there is (80MB) and even more until I press CTRL-C to abort.
The funny thing is, I also compiled the very same sources under OS4.2 on
Itel hardware and there it runs just fine without problems!
So I tried to cross-compile on OS4.2/Intel for m68k (NS3.3). It compiles
fine, but when I try to run it on the black machine, it wants to have
heller 200 cpu> ./tclsh
dyld: can't open library:
/NextLibrary/Frameworks/System.framework/Versions/A/System (No such file
or directory, errno = 2)
So I linked the OS4.2 frameworks into the NS3.3 /NextLibrary which silences
that problem, but then the program just dumps core.
Here are my questions:
1) How can I compile on OS4.2 for NS3.3? Any special flags I have to set??
Or is it impossible? I thought it was possible, just how....
2) Is there anything known about the memory eating problems with tclsh on
NS3.3/m68k?
3) Is there an m68k tclsh/wish/libraries that I can download somewhere? I
need it to compile yet another program (a receipe management software
called XRezept).
Please answer by email to: heller@altoetting-online.de
Thanks!
Helmut
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From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing NS 3.2 on Intel
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:06:54 +0000
Organization: Forsee with Style
Message-ID: <35FBB55E.14A63D14@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
References: <35F71234.7CBF30F2@jazbo.com> <35F71722.B11481DD@forsee.tcp.co.uk> <35F88F24.3C2DF267@jazbo.com>
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 1998 13:58:17 GMT
To: Jazbo <jazbo@jazbo.com>
Background:
My earliest Nextstep version is 3.3, I did see 3.2 on black just before
it was upgraded.
Installing Nextstep on huge (2GByte+) drives:
There have been mixed reports on drives over 2GB, I found that on Intel,
you could start the installation, but later it all starts to go pear
shaped. I think that you can install NS in the first 2GB of a huge
drive, this means you can put DOS/Windows etc. near the end of the drive
instead of at the beginning.
Your Nextstep CD must support Intel architecture:
There should be Configure.app, which may be "faded" on black hardware,
since it only applicable to Intel (later HP and Sun). There should be
various xxx.config file-folders, for the loadable device drivers. There
should be a few i386 folders.
For NS3.2 you will need SCSI CD-ROM drive or a network:
I don't think NS3.2 supports EIDE CD-ROM so you will need an Intel
machine with a supported SCSI controller and SCSI CD-ROM, alternatively
you may be able to install over a network with a supported Network card.
The earlier versions of Nextstep on Intel had minor problems with
keyboards and power management.
Jazbo wrote:
>
> Sorry to be a pest, but I made some progress since my earlier message.
> I found rawrite
> & was able to create a 3.2 boot floppy (and a floppy with some extra
> drivers on it).
> It takes a while, but it does boot up to the point where it asks for a
> root file
> system. Since it did not seem to find the CD-ROM, I can't mount that,
> and until I
> install NeXT, I don't have a file system on hard disk. In reading the
> NeXTAnswers,
> I may be out of luck anyway since I was planning to install NS3.2 in the
> third
> partition of my 4 Gig drive --- there seems to be a problem with big
> drives under 3.2.
>
> I'm encouraged by making some progress, but I'm wondering if this is a
> hopeless
> exercise. Any insights would be appreciated.
>
> --jazbo <jazbo@jazbo.com>
--
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From: Jan Richling <richling@informatik.hu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GCC 2.8.x (or 2.7.2) on NeXT HPPA?
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:05:13 +0200
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <p1odt6.rb.ln@vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de>
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Hi,
on NeXT Intel it is'nt a problem to compile gcc 2.8.x - or get gcc 2.7.2-
binaries from on of the ftp-sites.
But:
Was anyone able to build a working gcc 2.7.2 or 2.8.x (or egcs) on the
HPPA-architecture running NeXTSTEP 3.3?
Or is there a website with related information?
Thanks,
Jan
--
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(Madonna: Frozen)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~richling
From: "John E. Hayes" <jeh25@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing 3.2 from CD onto a Cube w/o a floppy
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:59:13 -0400
Organization: Cornell University-Sensory Group
Sender: jeh25@cornell.edu (Verified)
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I have a non-turbo cube I would like to install 3.2 on from the cd.
However, 2.1 is currently installed and I do NOT have a working scsi
floppy. Any ideas?
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there an non-US installer package for ssh around (OPENSTEP 4?)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:05:12 GMT
Organization: R&A
Sender: news@RnA.nl
Message-ID: <Ez8nso.F8G@RnA.nl>
I am looking for such a package. I have been trying to compile ssh-2.0.8 but
it doesn't compile out of the box (typical posix compile errors as looking
for O_NONBLOCK). The configure configures for NS 3.3, but without the -posix
flag, so I wonder how this beast could compile on 3.3.
--
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"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Dass man fuer die Philosophie ein Interesse zeigt, bezeugt noch keine
Bereitschaft zum Denken -- Martin Heidegger
From: John Moreno <phenix@interpath.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anyone using RadicalNews 0.9.6 on 4.2 notice the following bug
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:42:19 -0500
Organization: -.-
Message-ID: <phenix-120998214219000150065@gaddy.interpath.net>
References: <6tconi$9d5$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
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spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com wrote:
> Anyone notice RadicalNews 0.9.6 for 4.2 on White chopping
> the last words in lines inappropriately. Here are some examples.
-snip-
> Or am I just doing something wrong by putting hard returns at the end of
> lines?!
Yes, other people have noticed it - get 0.9.7.
> Randy
> rencsok at
> channelu dot com
> argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
>
> spammers works also :)
>
> Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining,
> Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.)
Sigs should be preceded by a sigdash - which is two dashes followed by
a single space (nothing else on the line). This allows newsreaders to
treat the sig differently from the main body (different coloring, not
quoting when following up, etc).
--
John Moreno
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang)
Subject: Re: Installing 3.2 from CD onto a Cube w/o a floppy
Message-ID: <Ez8zsE.57H@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services
References: <35FC3221.F78E173F@cornell.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:24:14 GMT
In article <35FC3221.F78E173F@cornell.edu>,
John E. Hayes <jeh25@cornell.edu> wrote:
>I have a non-turbo cube I would like to install 3.2 on from the cd.
>However, 2.1 is currently installed and I do NOT have a working scsi
>floppy. Any ideas?
I do not think you can boot off the CD. Your best bet is to borrow a
slab and connect your drive to it. Or you can hook the two machines
together and install from the slab.
Or, if you have a working OD, it will just do it.
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tcl8.0.3 on NS3.3 m58k??
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:17:55 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
Sender: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller)
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In article <Ez65Bs.8zC@heller.altoetting-online.de>
heller@altoetting-online.de writes:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to compile tcl8.0.3 on black (m68k) NextSTEP3.3.
I got an answer from Naoki Takebayashi and tried to mail him back, but all
email bounced back!
While connected to mailhost:
>>> RCPT To:<ntakebay@bio.indiana.edu>
<<< 550 <ntakebay@bio.indiana.edu>... Relaying denied
554 <ntakebay@bio.indiana.edu>... 550 User unknown
Therefore I post here to reach him.
You wrote:
> I got it compiled on OpenStep 4.2 on black. Instead of using -posix, I
> hacked the make file.
Hello,
thank you very much for your reply!
I incorporated your makefile changes, but without the -posix option it
still does not compile, neither on NS3.3(black) nor on OS4.2(intel). Don't
you get this error, too:
cc -c -O -I./../generic -I. -DUSEGETWD=1 -DNO_UNAME=1 -DNO_DIRENT_H=1
-DNO_VALUES_H=1 -DNO_DLFCN_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DUSE_SGTTY=1
-DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DTIME_WITH_SYS_TIME=1 -DHAVE_TM_ZONE=1
-DHAVE_TM_GMTOFF=1 -DHAVE_TIMEZONE_VAR=1 -DHAVE_ST_BLKSIZE=1
-DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -Dmode_t=int -Dpid_t=int -DRETSIGTYPE=void
-DHAVE_SIGNED_CHAR=1 -DHAVE_SYS_IOCTL_H=1 -DO_NONBLOCK=O_NDELAY
-Dtmpnam=tcl_tmpnam -Dstrtod=tcl_strtod -DS_IRUSR=0000400 -DS_IWUSR=0000200
-DS_IXUSR=0000100 -DS_IRWXU=0000700 -DS_IRWXG=0000070 -DS_IRWXO=0000007
-DTCL_SHLIB_EXT=\".so\" ../generic/tclIOUtil.c
./generic/tclIOUtil.c:65: `access' undeclared here (not in a function)
./generic/tclIOUtil.c:65: too many errors, bailing out
*** Exit 1
Stop.
> When you compiled on OS4.2/Intel, did it pass all the test?
I recompiled it, without -posix (I just included the necessary lines from
the header files in the tcl-files) this time. But it failed practically ALL
tests, however, only marginally, as far as I can see.
You wrote:
> Well I don't know if this helps or not, but here is what I did.
Wow! I now could compile it on NS3.3/black without the -posix and tclsh is
working! WOW!!
Thank you very much!
However, if I run make test, I get a completely different behaviour on
NS3.3/black than on OS4.2/Intel! I sent you the intel results before, here
now the NS3.3 results. Ah, now I am reading the README in there which
suggests to run confgure. doing... ah, no, didn't work. OK, I am including
-dynamic... hmm, doesn't really work either. There was no such testing on
OS4.2/Intel! I don't know why!
The cc man page mentions s.th. about shared libraries not really working
well yet. So this might be the reason and there might be no good way around
(other than maybe upgrading to a more recent version of GCC).
I hope this reaches you, Naoki, thanks again for your help, I could compile
the receipe program and everything works out just fine now!
Bye,
helmut
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From: Dave 'n Trish <Dave_Trish@Quadrant.Net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mac os on a next??
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:48:01 -0600
Organization: SaskTel
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came you put a mac os on a next color station turbo instead of
nextstep???
email dave_trish@quadrant.net icq 14937372 thanx
From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Backup software
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:30:38 +0100
Organization: KVI
Message-ID: <35FCFE5E.605DC8BE@KVI.NL>
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Hi,
I'm looking for (preferably free) backup software or fancy tar script
that allows me to do regular incremental backups.
Thanls for any help,
Bye,
Marcel
From: someone@langharig.tuig.net (Langharig Tuig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there an non-US installer package for ssh around (OPENSTEP 4?)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:11:52 GMT
Organization: Nerderlandse Kappersbond
Message-ID: <6tic38$320_016@news.NL.net>
References: <Ez8nso.F8G@RnA.nl>
In article <Ez8nso.F8G@RnA.nl>, Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote:
>I am looking for such a package. I have been trying to compile ssh-2.0.8 but
>it doesn't compile out of the box (typical posix compile errors as looking
>for O_NONBLOCK). The configure configures for NS 3.3, but without the -posix
>flag, so I wonder how this beast could compile on 3.3.
>
http://www.peak.org/next/apps/internet/ssh/
From: Greg Davis <gregor@visuallink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mac os on a next??
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:25:52 -0300
Organization: Fighter Grafix
Message-ID: <35FCD310.527A@visuallink.com>
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Dave 'n Trish wrote:
>
> came you put a mac os on a next color station turbo instead of
> nextstep???
> email dave_trish@quadrant.net icq 14937372 thanx
Not without Executor or Daydream.
gregor
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GCC 2.8.x (or 2.7.2) on NeXT HPPA?
Date: 14 Sep 1998 12:52:35 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <6tj3ij$6j1$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <p1odt6.rb.ln@vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de>
In article <p1odt6.rb.ln@vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de> Jan Richling
<richling@informatik.hu-berlin.de> writes:
> Hi,
>
> on NeXT Intel it is'nt a problem to compile gcc 2.8.x - or get gcc 2.7.2-
> binaries from on of the ftp-sites.
>
> But:
>
> Was anyone able to build a working gcc 2.7.2 or 2.8.x (or egcs) on the
> HPPA-architecture running NeXTSTEP 3.3?
The reason is simple: A gcc port for either sparc-next-* or hppa-next-*
does not exist because gcc doesn't (officially) support these architecture
types (nextstep on sparc or hppa, that is).
--
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Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there an non-US installer package for ssh around (OPENSTEP 4?)
Date: 14 Sep 1998 12:54:54 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <6tj3mu$6nk$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <Ez8nso.F8G@RnA.nl>
In article <Ez8nso.F8G@RnA.nl> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl writes:
> I am looking for such a package. I have been trying to compile ssh-2.0.8
> but it doesn't compile out of the box (typical posix compile errors as
> looking for O_NONBLOCK). The configure configures for NS 3.3, but
> without the -posix flag, so I wonder how this beast could compile on
> 3.3.
ssh-2.0.8 doesn't work on nextstep. It requires posix (absolutely, it
seems), and it doesn't seem to work even when using it (-posix). Trust me,
I've been trying, but without success.
On the other hand, if I DO get working (by some miracle), I'll post (to
peak) binaries and the necessary patches to get it to build.
--
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Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AerePerennius with Philips Omniwriter 26?
Date: 14 Sep 1998 13:21:18 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6tj58e$18qm@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
Hi all,
I have recently acquired a Philips Omniwriter 26 CD-R/CD-RW device. I was
able to get it to write media using AerePerennius with the IMS 2600
driver, but the resulting disks were unreadable. Rather than trying every
driver and risk wasting all those disks (not to mention all that time), I
thought I'd see whether anyone knew which driver worked.
Best,
Alex
--
Alexander Levine
Philosophy Department
Lehigh University
ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: "Karl Lherisson" <karl@nospam.northstar.com>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Setting up an Exabyte 4200c Rev 235?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:29:28 -0400
Message-ID: <35fd3688.0@reliant>
I need some help setting up an Exabyte EXB-4200c Rev 235 4mm tape drive on a
Black NeXTstation Color Turbo running NeXTstep 3.3?
First are there any hardware configuration files i need to modify?
Secondly,
I am trying a local dump using the following paramaters
dump 0 / f /dev/rst0
It appears to access the tape drive but it never works correctly. What am I
doing wrong?
karl@northstar.com
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there an non-US installer package for ssh around (OPENSTEP 4?)
Date: 14 Sep 1998 16:36:31 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <6tjgmf$944$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <Ez8nso.F8G@RnA.nl> <6tic38$320_016@news.NL.net>
/gnVR"|LWyKVK{`$&t&`k{]Q^x*"ihe+^hTvWs@IEMtYI5RVzGFBPcMu`}>@#^Fm:<)M
w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK?
someone@langharig.tuig.net (Langharig Tuig) wrote:
>In article <Ez8nso.F8G@RnA.nl>, Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote:
>>I am looking for such a package. I have been trying to compile ssh-2.0.8
but
>>it doesn't compile out of the box (typical posix compile errors as looking
>>for O_NONBLOCK). The configure configures for NS 3.3, but without the
-posix
>>flag, so I wonder how this beast could compile on 3.3.
>>
>
>http://www.peak.org/next/apps/internet/ssh/
. . . contains the USA (ie RSA) version of ssh 1.2.26. Since the poster was
looking for the International (ie non-RSA) version of ssh 2.0.x, this will
not be of much use to him.
JD
--
PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc
From: "Sung Ho Kim" <sk68@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing 3.2 from CD onto a Cube w/o a floppy
Date: 14 Sep 1998 17:01:31 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified)
Message-ID: <01bde001$8d4154a0$5566ec84@am133>
References: <35FC3221.F78E173F@cornell.edu> <Ez8zsE.57H@midway.uchicago.edu>
Andrew Chang <tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> I do not think you can boot off the CD. Your best bet is to borrow a
> slab and connect your drive to it. Or you can hook the two machines
> together and install from the slab.
>
Hi,
It's been a while since I checked, and thus I may be overlooking something,
but can't you just upgrade to 3.2 using the Upgrader.app in the root
directory of the 3.2 CD? I checked my CD case and it does have a floppy,
but I don't think I used it to upgrade my NeXT--although with '030s I
really don't know.
Regards,
Sung
>
> Or, if you have a working OD, it will just do it.
>
From: antoine_RemoveThisFromAdress_@arrakis.RemoveThisFromAdress.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Setting up an Exabyte 4200c Rev 235?
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In <35fd3688.0@reliant> "Karl Lherisson" wrote:
% I need some help setting up an Exabyte EXB-4200c Rev 235 4mm tape drive on
a
% Black NeXTstation Color Turbo running NeXTstep 3.3?
%
% First are there any hardware configuration files i need to modify?
%
% Secondly,
%
% I am trying a local dump using the following paramaters
%
% dump 0 / f /dev/rst0
%
% It appears to access the tape drive but it never works correctly. What am
I
% doing wrong?
%
% karl@northstar.com
There is something special about exagyte tape lentgh, I use
dump 0uns 1200000
Can't remember where I found that, I guess librarian or nextanswers will
tell you. Also, exabyte is /dev/(n)rxt0.
Cheers,
---- Antoine Gautier
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compiling on NeXTstep 3.3
Date: 14 Sep 1998 15:41:52 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6tk63g$ac5@slip.net>
References: <6tk0oo$2bc_004@news.NL.net> <6tk2cs$10h@ragnarok.en.uunet.de> <6tk397$2bc_006@news.NL.net>
I find the NeXT 2.7.x gcc compiler pretty reliable ...
I've been compiling perl, msql1.x, various perl modules, php
without much fuss.
Have you installed the NS 3.3 patches from Apple?
That helps.
Emmett
From: someone@langharig.tuig.net (Langharig Tuig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there an non-US installer package for ssh around (OPENSTEP 4?)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:40:32 GMT
Organization: Nerderlandse Kappersbond
Message-ID: <6tjv00$2bc_002@news.NL.net>
References: <Ez8nso.F8G@RnA.nl> <6tic38$320_016@news.NL.net> <6tjgmf$944$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
In article <6tjgmf$944$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) wrote:
>someone@langharig.tuig.net (Langharig Tuig) wrote:
>>In article <Ez8nso.F8G@RnA.nl>, Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote:
>>>I am looking for such a package. I have been trying to compile ssh-2.0.8
>but
>>>it doesn't compile out of the box (typical posix compile errors as looking
>>>for O_NONBLOCK). The configure configures for NS 3.3, but without the
>-posix
>>>flag, so I wonder how this beast could compile on 3.3.
>>>
>>
>>http://www.peak.org/next/apps/internet/ssh/
>
> . . . contains the USA (ie RSA) version of ssh 1.2.26. Since the poster was
>looking for the International (ie non-RSA) version of ssh 2.0.x, this will
>not be of much use to him.
Why would someone care if it contains RSA or not ?
From: someone@langharig.tuig.net (Langharig Tuig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Compiling on NeXTstep 3.3
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:10:48 GMT
Organization: Nerderlandse Kappersbond
Message-ID: <6tk0oo$2bc_004@news.NL.net>
Hi,
Why is it next to impossible to compile anything on NextStep 3.3/m86k
using gcc 2.7.x ? Everything complains about a file called 'standards.h'
which I cannot find anywhere.
tnx,
L.T.
Message-ID: <35FDB899.9412AFB0@home.com>
From: msms <msms@home.com>
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Subject: Re: mac os on a next??
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Nope, since there probably aren't enough of the right type of
hardware drivers in the MacOS to run on the Nextstation. Plus,
and more importantly, the ROMs on the Next machine get in the
way a little, and the lack of MacOS ROMs would be a little
problem too.
Executor's kinda lame, and it runs pretty slow even on a
Turbo. I haven't seen DayDream though.
-- John
---------------------
Dave 'n Trish wrote:
>
> came you put a mac os on a next color station turbo instead of
> nextstep???
> email dave_trish@quadrant.net icq 14937372 thanx
From: holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compiling on NeXTstep 3.3
Date: 14 Sep 1998 21:38:36 GMT
Organization: The secret circle of the NSRC
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Langharig Tuig wrote:
> Why is it next to impossible to compile anything on NextStep 3.3/m86k
> using gcc 2.7.x ? Everything complains about a file called 'standards.h'
> which I cannot find anywhere.
Try harder:
holger>locate standards.h
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/standards.h
Holger
From: Brander Lien <blien@guinness.cs.stevens-tech.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 3.3 installation on a turbo bw/slab
Date: 15 Sep 1998 00:54:14 GMT
Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <6tkdrm$jh7$1@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Sep 1998 00:54:14 GMT
User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980618 (UNIX) (IRIX64/6.4 (IP27))
i'm really having some trouble getting anything on my turboslab black and white to install. i have an external cdrom with the nextstep 3.3 cd in it, i've tried the 3.3 install disk on the internal 3.5 drive as well as an external 3.5 scsi drive. All it gives me is a "unknown format" error everytime I try and access a drive. It will try to boot diagnostics off of sd 0 and crap out into a blk0> prompt. I then try and access any device on my system. tell me if what I am doing is right..
i guess a quick explanation of the notation of the block devices would be nice.. ie sd(0,0,0) and what they stand for. I know that sd is the scsi disks, and fd would be the internal 3.5 drive, is there anything else?..
I'm really trying to get into using NeXT's, but this one slab is getting real annoying. Could it be a BIOS problem?.. or something related to that?
i get the box "NeXT ROM Monitor 3.1 (v71)" on top, and this is where it all happens. If I don't hold a key when it says testing the system, it loops, and keeps going back to "testing the system" with the graphic of the monitor in the NeXTstep like box.
Any input on my situation would be a great help.
-Brander
From: someone@langharig.tuig.net (Langharig Tuig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compiling on NeXTstep 3.3
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:53:43 GMT
Organization: Nerderlandse Kappersbond
Message-ID: <6tk397$2bc_006@news.NL.net>
References: <6tk0oo$2bc_004@news.NL.net> <6tk2cs$10h@ragnarok.en.uunet.de>
In article <6tk2cs$10h@ragnarok.en.uunet.de>, holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
> Langharig Tuig wrote:
>> Why is it next to impossible to compile anything on NextStep 3.3/m86k
>> using gcc 2.7.x ? Everything complains about a file called 'standards.h'
>> which I cannot find anywhere.
>
>Try harder:
>
>holger>locate standards.h
>/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/standards.h
# ls /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/standards.h
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/standards.h not found
This is a freshly installed 3.3.
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there an non-US installer package for ssh around (OPENSTEP 4?)
Date: 14 Sep 1998 21:41:43 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <6tk2in$ec8$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <Ez8nso.F8G@RnA.nl> <6tic38$320_016@news.NL.net> <6tjgmf$944$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <6tjv00$2bc_002@news.NL.net>
/gnVR"|LWyKVK{`$&t&`k{]Q^x*"ihe+^hTvWs@IEMtYI5RVzGFBPcMu`}>@#^Fm:<)M
w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK?
someone@langharig.tuig.net (Langharig Tuig) wrote:
>>>http://www.peak.org/next/apps/internet/ssh/
>>
>> . . . contains the USA (ie RSA) version of ssh 1.2.26. Since the poster
was
>>looking for the International (ie non-RSA) version of ssh 2.0.x, this will
>>not be of much use to him.
>
>Why would someone care if it contains RSA or not ?
Sigh. Stupid reasons like US Export Control Laws. It's illegal to allow US
crypto code (RSAREF) to be exported from the US.
International users can perfectly-well use implementations of the relevant
crypto algorithms which were written abroad.
Similarly, there is no problem IMPORTING such code into the US. However,
USING the "international" version here in the US infringes on RSA's patents
(which are not recognized internationally).
So.... US users must use the RSAREF version. International users must use the
"international" version (as obtaining the RSAREF version is in contravention
of US Export Control Laws -- meaning the maintainer of the US ftp site you
got them from could be prosecuted under ITAR).
Clear? . . . I thought not.
JD
--
PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc
From: someone@langharig.tuig.net (Langharig Tuig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there an non-US installer package for ssh around (OPENSTEP 4?)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:04:29 GMT
Organization: Nerderlandse Kappersbond
Message-ID: <6tk3td$2bc_008@news.NL.net>
References: <Ez8nso.F8G@RnA.nl> <6tic38$320_016@news.NL.net> <6tjgmf$944$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <6tjv00$2bc_002@news.NL.net> <6tk2in$ec8$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
In article <6tk2in$ec8$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) wrote:
>someone@langharig.tuig.net (Langharig Tuig) wrote:
>>>>http://www.peak.org/next/apps/internet/ssh/
>>>
>>> . . . contains the USA (ie RSA) version of ssh 1.2.26. Since the poster
>was
>>>looking for the International (ie non-RSA) version of ssh 2.0.x, this will
>>>not be of much use to him.
>>
>>Why would someone care if it contains RSA or not ?
>
>
>Sigh. Stupid reasons like US Export Control Laws. It's illegal to allow US
>crypto code (RSAREF) to be exported from the US.
I could care less. I get all crypto stuff from http://www.replay.com/
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Connecting via PPP web site help
Message-ID: <1998091503291800.XAA02762@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Date: 15 Sep 1998 03:29:17 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Just came across this web site at Thomas McCarthy's link page--I don't recall
it having been mentioned here and it looks to be very helpful:
http://skylee.com/sis.html
Brief excerpt below:
Internet Starter Kit for NEXTSTEP
version 0.9.7
<Picture: SIS's Icon>
The Simple Internet Starter Kit for NEXTSTEP is a utility that helps you
connect your computer to a remote network, most commonly the Internet. Its
components are available on the Big Green CD, or from Canon's ftp site in
Japan.
ftp://ftp.cnds.canon.co.jp/pub/SKIN/BasicPackages/
Hope this helps!
William
--
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: ff48@columbia.edu (Rothstein Lab)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: AerePerennius with Philips Omniwriter 26?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:32:29 -0400
Organization: Columbia University
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Hi Alex,
Unfortunatly, none of the Philips drivers found in AerePerennius seems to
work with the new Omniwriter 26. I got one Omniwriter 26 a few month ago
and it require his own driver. But, I just can't find it or even its source
code. Also, I never get any answers from Philips about the availability of
the driver.
I'm hoping that the folks from AerePerennius will give us a solution.
Sincerely,
In article <6tj58e$18qm@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>, atl2@lehigh.edu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have recently acquired a Philips Omniwriter 26 CD-R/CD-RW device. I was
> able to get it to write media using AerePerennius with the IMS 2600
> driver, but the resulting disks were unreadable. Rather than trying every
> driver and risk wasting all those disks (not to mention all that time), I
> thought I'd see whether anyone knew which driver worked.
>
> Best,
>
> Alex
>
> --
> Alexander Levine
> Philosophy Department
> Lehigh University
> ATL2@lehigh.edu
--
Frederic Foucault, ph.D. Dept of Genetics & Development
Tel: (212) 305 17 34 Columbia University
Fax: (212) 305 20 90 701 West 168th Street
Email: ff48@columbia.edu New York, NY 10032
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.3 installation on a turbo bw/slab
Date: 14 Sep 1998 23:36:33 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6tl1th$89d@slip.net>
References: <6tkdrm$jh7$1@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>
You can find the parameters to sd in NextAnswers articles
on installing and formating disks. You might also do
an advanced search www.dejanews.com for using zip
drives with NeXTs. I recall someone has a page
devoted to the topic including a full explanation
of all the sd parameters. sd also has a parameter
specifying read/write access, not that I think
it would help your situation using it.
I suppose this is the old stand by advice but ...
but it sounds to me like your machine is having trouble
accessing the other devices because the scsi chain is
prematurely terminated. This might explain the machine
hanging to as the peripherals are trying to register
on the bus but can't.
Also, some drives have jumpers making the drive
read only. Check that.
By any chance is it a IBM drive?
Emmett
In article <6tkdrm$jh7$1@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>,
Brander Lien <blien@guinness.cs.stevens-tech.edu> wrote:
>i'm really having some trouble getting anything on my turboslab black and white to install. i have an external cdrom with the nextstep 3.3 cd in it, i've tried the 3.3 install disk on the internal 3.5 drive as well as an external 3.5 scsi drive. All it gives me is a "unknown format" error everytime I try and access a drive. It will try to boot diagnostics off of sd 0 and crap out into a blk0> prompt. I then try and access any device on my system. tell me if what I am doing is right..
>
>i guess a quick explanation of the notation of the block devices would be nice.. ie sd(0,0,0) and what they stand for. I know that sd is the scsi disks, and fd would be the internal 3.5 drive, is there anything else?..
>
>I'm really trying to get into using NeXT's, but this one slab is getting real annoying. Could it be a BIOS problem?.. or something related to that?
>
>i get the box "NeXT ROM Monitor 3.1 (v71)" on top, and this is where it all happens. If I don't hold a key when it says testing the system, it loops, and keeps going back to "testing the system" with the graphic of the monitor in the NeXTstep like box.
>
>Any input on my situation would be a great help.
>
>-Brander
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compiling on NeXTstep 3.3
Date: 15 Sep 98 11:07:06
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SCOTT.98Sep15110706@slave.doubleu.com>
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<6tk397$2bc_006@news.NL.net>
In-reply-to: someone@langharig.tuig.net's message of Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:53:43 GMT
In article <6tk397$2bc_006@news.NL.net>,
someone@langharig.tuig.net (Langharig Tuig) writes:
In article <6tk2cs$10h@ragnarok.en.uunet.de>,
holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
> Langharig Tuig wrote:
>> Why is it next to impossible to compile anything on NextStep 3.3/m86k
>> using gcc 2.7.x ? Everything complains about a file called 'standards.h'
>> which I cannot find anywhere.
>
>Try harder:
>
>holger>locate standards.h
>/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/standards.h
# ls /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/standards.h
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/standards.h not found
This is a freshly installed 3.3.
It's on my NS3.3 machine.
Later,
--
scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/
<Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots
Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs for NEXT fontsize?
Date: 16 Sep 1998 07:27:37 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6tohsp$5f4@slip.net>
References: <6to1du$bp1$2@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
My two cents ...
You can't enlarge the font from emacs because
to do that you have to be running under a X-windows
terminal application. i.e. NeXT machines natively run
Display Postscript - not X.
Your only recourse is to set the font size from
in /NextApps/Terminal.app.
Emmett
In article <6to1du$bp1$2@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>[I assume that this question is relevant to this group?]
>
>How can I enlarge the font on GNU Emacs 19.34.1 (mab-next-nextstep3) ?
>
>Using M-x set-face-fontsize and resetting messes up the entire display for
>some reason and I cannot set the preferences.
>
>Thanks, Thomas.
>
From: BillLeeX@cleaf.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Playing a .wav file
Date: 16 Sep 1998 14:28:17 GMT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Message-ID: <6tohu1$jat$1@news13.ispnews.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Sep 1998 14:28:17 GMT
Is there any way to play a .wav sound file using my black turbo slab? Running
OS4.2 Developer.
Regards,
Bill Lee
(Take out the X to reply)
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS 3.2 to Intel
Date: 16 Sep 1998 07:48:36 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6toj44$67h@slip.net>
References: <35F91BE3.AE5B6763@jazbo.com>
>Are drivers available that will let me at least get to the CD-ROM?
Go to www.next.com go to NeXTAnswers and search on compatibility
for NS 3.3. This document has been maintained to some degree
with the last edit in februrary of this year.
...
Just my opinion, to run NeXTSTEP 3.2 go with SCSI. I think
OpenStep is much more likely to support EIDE.
Emmett
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compiling on NeXTstep 3.3
Date: 15 Sep 1998 08:47:37 GMT
Organization: the secret circle of the NSRC
Message-ID: <6tl9j9$1d6$1@leonie.object-factory.com>
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Langharig Tuig wrote:
> In article <6tk2cs$10h@ragnarok.en.uunet.de>,
holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
> > Langharig Tuig wrote:
> >> Why is it next to impossible to compile anything on NextStep 3.3/m86k
> >> using gcc 2.7.x ? Everything complains about a file called
'standards.h'
> >> which I cannot find anywhere.
> >
> >Try harder:
> >
> >holger>locate standards.h
> >/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/standards.h
>
> # ls /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/standards.h
> /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/standards.h not found
>
> This is a freshly installed 3.3.
It exists on my 3.2 dev CD. It exists on a 3.3 68k machine on my
network this very moment. It exists on my 4.2 installation at home.
Did you install the dev packages? If you don't, you cannot use
a non-NeXT gcc either.
Holger
From: kjt (Ken Turner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Any PalmPilot supporting applications out there?
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:58:16 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <980916095816.488AAFCG.kjt@brass>
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I know only of some preliminary work by Omni Group, but I'm motivated to have
such a thing too. There's also a Java Pilot Desktop
(http://www.ctag.de/projects/jpd/) that could be relevant.
Ken Turner
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why the multiple tiffs (OpenWrite/WetPaint)?
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35ffdcf5.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 16 Sep 98 15:44:53 GMT
There exists indeed a multible-tiff-format on NeXT (grey, color, more-color,
...). But 10 of them??
But you are right WetPaint opens one tiff for every "frame" it finds in a
multible tiff-file. The IconBuilder (from NeXT) had the feature to switch
between the different formats. Maybe you get the choice between 10 different
images in this App ...
Sven
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From: mupqmynd@somethingfunny.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WOW!!! WHAT A STORY ONLINE!!!
Date: 16 Sep 1998 18:26:34 GMT
Organization: Northwestern Indiana Telephone Co.
Message-ID: <6tovsq$hcv$369@hyperion.nitco.com>
I happen to have dropped by http://www.despotovic.net and I couldn't believe what I saw. A complete case online with over 48 pictures, 3 police reports and more!!!
Regards.
P.S.- The website address is http://www.despotovic.net
From: Ben Perrault <ben.perrault@wmich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Low Level Hardware Information...
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:53:55 -0500
Organization: Western Michigan University
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To: eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU, sanguish@digifix.com, info@ord.com,
sales@deepspacetech.com
Hello,
Since Apple has bought NeXT and stopped furthering the OS development,
there has been a rising of a group to port Linux to NeXT Hardware. I was
curious where I could find service manuals, or low level info about the
hardware (web or print)? Since I currently own 2 NeXT Station Color
Turbos, I have decided to use on for Linux Development and the other for
that great NeXT enviorment (after all, that's why I bought the damn
thing). Any suggestions/help?
Ben Perrault
Western Michigan University
Computer Science - Theory and Analysis
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Playing a .wav file
Date: 16 Sep 1998 13:26:33 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6tp6tp$peq@slip.net>
References: <6tohu1$jat$1@news13.ispnews.com>
GISO.app works fine for NS 3.3.
>Is there any way to play a .wav sound file using my black turbo slab? Running
>OS4.2 Developer.
>
>Regards,
>
>Bill Lee
>(Take out the X to reply)
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apparent compiler bug in NS 3.3
Date: 16 Sep 1998 21:06:07 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <905979967.793553@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca>
References: <6tp5st$m0v$1@dropit.pgh.net>
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In article <6tp5st$m0v$1@dropit.pgh.net>, <me@venetia.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>Can anybody duplicate this?
>
It works as expected for me:
gallifrey:/Users/dfevans/tmp> cat p.c
#include <stdio.h>
main(int argc, char **argv)
{
int x = atoi(argv[1]);
int y = atoi(argv[2]);
if(x < y)
printf("X less\n"); printf("Blah\n");
}
gallifrey:/Users/dfevans/tmp> cc -o p p.c
gallifrey:/Users/dfevans/tmp> p 1 2
X less
Blah
gallifrey:/Users/dfevans/tmp> p 2 1
Blah
gallifrey:/Users/dfevans/tmp> cc -v
Reading specs from /lib/m68k/specs
NeXT Computer, Inc. version cc-437.2.6, gcc version 2.5.8
(ie. 3.3)
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From: "John E. Hayes" <jeh25@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing 3.2 from CD onto a Cube w/o a floppy
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:20:05 -0400
Organization: Cornell University-Sensory Group
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To: Sung Ho Kim <sk68@cornell.edu>
I can't mount the cd. When I put the cd into the drive, it reads
"External disk is unreadable." Ignore Initialize
Did the file system change between 2.1 and 3.2 that much?
> It's been a while since I checked, and thus I may be overlooking something,
> but can't you just upgrade to 3.2 using the Upgrader.app in the root
> directory of the 3.2 CD? I checked my CD case and it does have a floppy,
> but I don't think I used it to upgrade my NeXT--although with '030s I
> really don't know.
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apparent compiler bug in NS 3.3
Date: 16 Sep 1998 21:53:21 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
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References: <6tp5st$m0v$1@dropit.pgh.net> <905979967.793553@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca>
After my last post I went to check the time stamps on my source and
binary files. I discovered the source was later than the binary.
Thanks to the wonders of SafetyNet, I was able to restore the source
that corresponded to the binary. I was embarrased to discover that
the old source DID have the braces around the two statements. I have
no idea when or why I changed the source. Thank heavans I never
compiled it! I am sorry for any confusion this may have caused.
-----
Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 724-941-6883
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing 3.2 from CD onto a Cube w/o a floppy
Date: 15 Sep 1998 23:38:49 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
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In article <35FEA1C5.9037BF27@cornell.edu> "John E. Hayes" <jeh25@cornell.edu> writes:
>I can't mount the cd. When I put the cd into the drive, it reads
>"External disk is unreadable." Ignore Initialize
>
>Did the file system change between 2.1 and 3.2 that much?
Yes. CDROM filesystem was added when NS3.0 came out, i.e.,
3.0 was the first distribution that came on CD.
Before then, 2.x and earlier, OS was distributed on Optical disk media
(or floppies for those with patience), and does not recognize CDROM.
If there is no floppy drive/no floppy to kick start, then your
best bet is to ask someone to make a bootable ZIP for you with
NS3.x or later, and use SCSI ZIP as a kick start disk.
From: root@pars.skidmore.edu (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where is NS 3.2 Upgrade.App?
Date: 16 Sep 1998 23:06:50 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College
Message-ID: <6tpgaa$jbu$1@calvin.skidmore.edu>
Keywords: Upgrade question
Help,
I'm trying to upgrade to 3.2 but can't find the upgrade.app on the CD rom.
Can anyone tell me:
1) Where there two different CD's for this upgrade?
i.e. 1 for the OS upgrade and #2 for the developer package?
2) is it possible I got sent only the developer package and not
the upgrade.app??
further explanation below:
I wanted to upgrade to our developer package of NS 3.2 (from 3.0).
We bought the upgrade ages ago but I just sat happily running 3.0 for
years. Now I'm trying to get to use Omniweb, which doesn't run anymore on
3.0...so figured I'd upgrade to 3.2 and it would work (right?).
PROBLEM IS: The box containing the upgrade CD has a label: "Nextstep
Release 3.2 Academic Bundle upgrade for Intel Processors." I had ordered
the "upgrade package" years back....but according to the docs, in the box,
there should be an "upgrade App" on the CD, there is not. Then the docs
read further on....don't install this 3.2 developer package until you
first upgrade to OS 3.2
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Apparent compiler bug in NS 3.3
Date: 16 Sep 1998 20:09:01 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <6tp5st$m0v$1@dropit.pgh.net>
I was moving a program from the NeXT to the PC and was getting
unexpected output. The NeXT code was of the form
if (x > y)
statemnt1; statement2;
To obtain the same (expected) output on the PC I had to use
if (x > y) {
statement1; statement2;
}
Note, that the second code (PC) is correct. The code on the NeXT
should not have worked, but it did. Because it did, I never caught
the error until now. Can anybody duplicate this?
-----
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me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs for NEXT fontsize?
Date: 16 Sep 1998 14:58:24 GMT
Organization: Cambridge University
Message-ID: <6tojmg$bp1$3@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
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In <6tohsp$5f4@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
> Your only recourse is to set the font size from
> in /NextApps/Terminal.app.
The thing is, I'm running the Emacs.app, and do not wish to run Emacs
from a terminal :(
Thomas.
From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs for NEXT fontsize?
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:04:33 +0100
Organization: KVI
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Thomas Harte wrote:
>
> In <6tohsp$5f4@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
> > Your only recourse is to set the font size from
> > in /NextApps/Terminal.app.
>
> The thing is, I'm running the Emacs.app, and do not wish to run Emacs
> from a terminal :(
>
> Thomas.
Then things become very easy. Select font panel from the menu (it's in
there somewhere), change the size and you should be fine.
Marcel
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <35ffdc46.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 16 Sep 98 15:41:58 GMT
Search for GISO on http://peanuts.leo.org. I hope it runs on OS, too.
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From: kjt (Ken Turner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Java Runtime for OpenStep/Mach
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:02:18 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <980916100218.488AAFCH.kjt@brass>
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<fixed><bigger><indent>Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
</indent></bigger><indent>> Since then, kaffe has undergone major changes; the
web pages at
> http://www.transvirtual.com/kaffe.html say that the latest release runs on
> OPENSTEP/Mach 3.x and 4.x. Despite several attempts I couldn't get it up and
> running yet on 4.2.
Yes, I've just failed as well :-( I was just about to ask if anyone else had
succeeded, but it looks like this is non-trivial.
Ken Turner
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From: Istvan Derenyi <derenyi@cs.cmu.edu>
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Subject: NextStep 3.0 -> 3.3 ?
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:03:57 -0400
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Hi,
Does it exist an upgrade package for NextStep from 3.0 to 3.3?
If so, where should I look for it?
Thanks,
--
Istvan Derenyi
Computer Music Project
Computer Science Department
Carnegie Mellon University
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3600cfbd.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 17 Sep 98 09:00:45 GMT
Until now I was able to run one of the (earlier) 1.0 snapshoots on HelloWorld
on a black NeXT (NS3.3) with Interpreter only. AWT never worked. All newer
ones compile with few problems but have big problems with the two
Threading-systems. No port so far ... :-(
Sven
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From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backup software
Date: 17 Sep 1998 01:30:54 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <6tpooe$hba$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
References: <35FCFE5E.605DC8BE@KVI.NL>
Marcel Volkerts (VOLKERTS@KVI.NL) wrote:
: I'm looking for (preferably free) backup software or fancy tar script
: that allows me to do regular incremental backups.
: Thanls for any help,
www.systemix.com
SafetyNet is an excellent product for backups, and does incrementals. Not
free, though.
--Chris
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From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Playing a .wav file
Date: 17 Sep 1998 01:45:27 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <6tppjn$hba$2@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
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Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote:
: GISO.app works fine for NS 3.3.
: >Is there any way to play a .wav sound file using my black turbo slab? Running
: >OS4.2 Developer.
Besides GISO, which does conversion, there is a workspace inspector
(MMSoundsInspector) on the Peak archives (/pub/next/apps/soundapps) which
plays .wav and .aiff files, without having to convert them first.
--Chris
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From: Barnard <randolf@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NextStep 3.3 Developer release
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:53:29 -0400
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
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Does anyone have NeXTstep 3.3 with Developer tools (interface builder)
for NeXT hardware? I can currently get 3.0 with development tools, but
have not been able to find a newer version. Also would it be possible to
upgrade 3.0 developer to 3.3 and still have the developer tools work? if
not is there a reason why i should not stick with 3.0?
thanks
randolf@ earthlink .net
From: Asagai <asagai@waksman.rutgers.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Low Level Hardware Information...
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:22:43 -0400
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I recommend....and I know this is not easy to shallow, but purchasing a
Mac G3 machine and either run Mac OS Server, or get your hands on
Rhapsody DR2 which I must state runs beautifully.
I am stating this bad news because there are many individuals like
yourself and myself that still own NeXT hardware and software. The only
avenue for people like you and I as foreseen buy NeXT, now Apple, is
this solution. I think you are going to be quite pleased.......At bare
minimum, play around with a G3 running Rhapsody DR2, or CR1 of Mac OS
Server.
My main reason for writing this email is that what is in Linux already
exists in Rhapsody DR2 and CR1 of Mac OS Server.
Whatever your decision...good luck
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From: iysdytbg@somethingfunny.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WOW!!! WHAT A STORY ONLINE!!!
Date: 17 Sep 1998 16:05:46 GMT
Organization: Northwestern Indiana Telephone Co.
Message-ID: <6trc0q$vt3$233@hyperion.nitco.com>
I happen to have dropped by http://www.despotovic.net and I couldn't believe what I saw. A complete case online with over 48 pictures, 3 police reports and more!!!
Regards.
P.S.- The website address is http://www.despotovic.net
From: J.-U. Thieme <jens-uwe.thieme@charite.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Playing a .wav file
Date: 17 Sep 1998 18:29:05 GMT
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In <6tohu1$jat$1@news13.ispnews.com> BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> Is there any way to play a .wav sound file using my black turbo slab?
ing
> OS4.2 Developer.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Lee
> (Take out the X to reply)
>
Use Resound.app. Search on peanuts or peak for it.
CIAO
JUT
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From: wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why the multiple tiffs (OpenWrite/WetPaint)?
Date: 17 Sep 1998 20:22:41 GMT
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Sven Droll (sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de) wrote:
: There exists indeed a multible-tiff-format on NeXT (grey, color, more-color,
: ...). But 10 of them??
: But you are right WetPaint opens one tiff for every "frame" it finds in a
: multible tiff-file. The IconBuilder (from NeXT) had the feature to switch
: between the different formats. Maybe you get the choice between 10 different
: images in this App ...
or use tiffutil!
should be in one of the bin folders.
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From: Helge Hess <hh@mdlink.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openstep on Solaris
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 12:39:58 +0200
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Emmett McLean wrote:
>
> Michael Lankton <mlankton@home.com> wrote:
> >I know there was Openstep on Sparc, how about Solaris x86?
>
> There is no Openstep Enterprise for Solaris,
> sparc or x86.
You are right, OpenStep Enterprise is a Windows NT product only.
However, he asked for Openstep, there are at least 5 more or less
complete OpenStep implementations for SPARC and/or Solaris:
- libFoundation (free, only Foundation, no tools)
- GNUstep (free, uncomplete GUI, no tools)
- OpenStep for Solaris (from Sun, complete, but discontinued)
- NeXT/Apple PDO for Solaris (Foundation, EOF, WebObjects, no tools)
- OPENSTEP for Mach on SPARC (it's own OS, replaces Solaris on SPARCs)
I think only the first two will run on ix86-Solaris. However, I once
managed to make point 3 run on a SPARC and display on an Intel. It does
need at least a Postscript enabled X-Server.
> Openstep on Sparc is its own operating system,
> Solaris and Openstep don't coexist.
Solaris and OpenStep coexist in a very nice way. In fact what you call
'Openstep on Sparc' actually has the name 'OPENSTEP for Mach: SPARC'.
The Mach is the OS, but not the OPENSTEP.
The OpenStep/Solaris ran on top of X/DPS and integrated in a very nice
way with X. In fact it was the first time, that I believed that X may
not be that bad ;-)
> There is no Openstep Enterprise for Solaris,
> sparc or x86.
There is one OpenStep's for Solaris, available only for SPARC, there is
one OPENSTEP for Mach, which runs on SPARC and there are the other three
kits, which run on Solaris, but don't have the tools.
Greetings
Helge
From: "Deliverer" <DELIVERER@gmx.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: games or software needed?
Date: 19 Sep 1998 18:06:06 GMT
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if one of YOU needs software or games for cheap prices,
write to: DELIVERER@gmx.net and write the name of
products you want, I'll reply you.
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From: Per Liden <per@rsn.hk-r.se>
Subject: Information about the loginpanel wanted!
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Hi,
Could someone with nextstep 3.3 (or newer) send me the Power and Reboot
button images used by the loginpanel.
I'm also interested in knowing the exact procedure when pushing those
buttons, like
- What excatly does the text say in the panel that appears when
pushing these buttons? Is it "Are you sure?" or something else?
- What options are available in thses panels? Is it "Yes/No" or is
it "Cancel/Reboot" or something else?
- etc...
A screenshoot of these panels would be very nice, by maybe hard to make
since no applications is running when the panel is shown?
Any information about this is welcomed!
Thanks in advance!
regards,
Per
ps. If you are wondering why I want this information it's because I'm
making an imitation of the nextstep loginpanel for linux. And now I
want to make it even closer to the "real thing". I haven't been using
nexstep for a long time now, so I've forgotten the details of the
loginpanel. ds.
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: X11 Emulator
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:53:05 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
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In article <36029BCB.489E8AFE@denver.Geoquest.SLB.COM> Rod Troch
<rkt@denver.Geoquest.SLB.COM> writes:
> Group,
>
> Does any one have a pointer to a piece of software that will allow me to
> export my X11 displays from a Linux box back to my NS3.3 box?
>
Sure.
I use Xnext, which is shareware and can be downloaded from the archives
(e.g., peanuts). There are also commercial products.
--
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From: kip@tapir.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Netscape
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 19:53:18 GMT
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Does anyone know: Has Netscape been ported to Open Step?
Is it being ported?
From: rivet@volcane [only.rivet]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need OS 4.2 boot disks!!
Date: 19 Sep 1998 23:13:20 GMT
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bsd -a in the rom monitor should do it. if not get the 3.3 moto boot disk,
*decompress it*, then rawrite it. i have done a lot of *step installs and it
has always worked for me. short of that, come to chicago and i will give you
a moto 3.3 boot disk.
In <blah-ya02408000R1909981554090001@news.advancenet.net> blah@poo.com wrote:
> The hard drive in my NeXT Station died and I finally got a replacement.
> When I went to get the boot disk to reinstall OpenStep 4.2 I couldn't find
> it. "No problem." I thought, "I'll just download rawrite.exe and the boot
> disk image to my PC and create one there." Well it is a problem, I've
> created at least five different disks and all of them are rejected by my
> NeXT Station. Adding insult to injury the Station won't boot from the CD
> either. Is there anyone in the central Illinois area that has a 4.2 boot
> disk that I could beg/borrow/purchase so I can get my precious NeXT Station
> working again?
>
>
> Scott Johnson
> owolf@advancenet.net
>
From: tec5@cornell.edu (T. Canfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: E-mail
Date: 19 Sep 1998 20:15:30 GMT
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Help!
A family member has a 286 and I'm trying to find a software that will
allow them to get email.
I tryed juno but you have to have a 386 or higher. The reason they
aren't going though the internet is because the computer is to old. They like
their machine and just want to be able to get email.
Thank you for any help you can give.
Please e-mail me at tec5@cornell.edu because I don’t always check this news
group.
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:54:09 -0500
From: blah@poo.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need OS 4.2 boot disks!!
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The hard drive in my NeXT Station died and I finally got a replacement.
When I went to get the boot disk to reinstall OpenStep 4.2 I couldn't find
it. "No problem." I thought, "I'll just download rawrite.exe and the boot
disk image to my PC and create one there." Well it is a problem, I've
created at least five different disks and all of them are rejected by my
NeXT Station. Adding insult to injury the Station won't boot from the CD
either. Is there anyone in the central Illinois area that has a 4.2 boot
disk that I could beg/borrow/purchase so I can get my precious NeXT Station
working again?
Scott Johnson
owolf@advancenet.net
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 16:01:33 -0500
From: blah@poo.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Info on OPENSTEP + Windows NT
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In article <EzHt27.5FI@midway.uchicago.edu>, tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu
(Andrew Chang) wrote:
>Hi, even though I'm a long-term NeXT user, I feel falling behind
>the new technology.....
>
>From what I know, it appears OPENSTEP can run side-by-side with
>Windows NT, among serveral other OSs. Can anyone advise on how
>this is achieved?
>
>I'd imagine that, you load the NT first, then load OPENSTEP,
>in the same partition? Then you boot NT and start OPENSTEP server?
>I guess with NT, you'll need OPENSTEP for NT (on CD-ROM).
>
>For the NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP applicationis, you'll have to get the
>source code and recompile the code for the platform the application
>is ported to. Then you'll need OPENSTEP developer and Enterprise
>Objects, also any other packages?
>
>It appears that this can be achieved, then I do not need two machines
>on my desk. Also, I do not need to have two partitions and have
>to choose to boot either NT or OPENSTEP.
>
>As I said, I'm not an expert on this. Please correct me if any of
>the above is not right.
>
>So, I need to have the OPENSTEP for NT CD, right?? Anyone has one?
I am currently running OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT 4.0. It's
actually decently quick on my measely 486 DX2 66. OpenStep Enterprise runs
on top of the NT kernal, with the Windows shell running as well. In
addition, the Bash shell is also available and since NT is Posix compliant
you can recompile OpenStep for Mach application fairly easily. Apple is
continuing to support this under the codename "YellowBox". OpenStep
Enterprise was never ported to Windows95, but YellowBox will be. Apple's
Mac OS X Server, due in October, is OpenStep with a Mac interface that can
run both on Intel processors and G3 PowerMacs. Unfortunately the Intel
side will never get past version 1.0, you'll have to rely on YellowBox if
you want to continue to have Wintel and OpenStep combined.
Scott Johnson
Orange Wolf Enterprises
From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backup software
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:20:06 +0000
Organization: Forsee with Style
Message-ID: <3603F5D6.FCB4ADA3@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
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Can you write a sh (csh) script, and using 'find' to create a list of
changed files, use this list for tar (gnutar). Sorry I can't check this
out since, I'm stuck in Windoz world, just as I get an Openstep machine
talking to my ISP, they change it (static IP -> dynamic IP, SLIP -> PPP,
script authentication -> PPP, pop3....)
Marcel Volkerts wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for (preferably free) backup software or fancy tar script
> that allows me to do regular incremental backups.
> Thanls for any help,
>
> Bye,
>
> Marcel
--
Robert Forsyth
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~forsee/
tel/fax: +44 1243 787487
From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: installing NeXTstep on intel
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:14:38 +0000
Organization: Forsee with Style
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For NS3.3 it is easier to install from a SCSI CD-ROM, but you can do it
with the EIDE driver...
With your IDE HD and IDE CD-ROM as Master and slave;
This is with both drives on the same cable with the jumpers on the
drives set correctly for drives and cable (some cables select
master/slave), is it working in Windows/DOS; can you see the HD in
FDISK, (with the ATAPI driver and MSCDEX) can you DIR a DOS CD.
Boot from the Nextstep install diskette (like you did), choose Adaptec
154x for the CD-ROM controller (I know you don't have one, it's just a
place keeper), For the Hard disk controller put the EIDE driver in and
press the number for drivers on anther diskette, choose the ATAPI(?)
driver.
Unfortunately non all EIDE CD-ROMs are supported.
You can create an addtional driver diskette with the EIDE driver on by
following the instructions in
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2667.htmld/2667.html#creatingnextstepfloppiesunderdos
Fluids wrote:
>
> hey people, i have a problem. i have NeXTstep 3.3 and i want it on my intel
> machine. i boot from the floppy, then it asks for the device drivers floppy. it
> has nothing but scsi drivers. I HAVE IDE HARDWARE. i've been to apple's sight
> and the NEXTstep faq. i downloaded the drivers from apple's site too. i'm using
> a dos-format disk. and nothing works. i need to know WHAT THE HELL I'M DOING
> WRONG!! either that or i need to figure out how to get a unix-format floppy,
> because THIS SUCKS!! i've been over these newsgroups for a whole damn week and
> i'm getting pissed. i've tried slaving my cdrom to the hard drive, but that was
> a disaster in itself. what's the deal people? i've spent a lot of money on this
> supposedly wonderful os, but i'm not impressed so far.
> email me at fluids@aol.com (i have aol, now stop laughing at me and help me!!)
--
Robert Forsyth
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~forsee/
tel/fax: +44 1243 787487
Message-ID: <36045FA8.7002BBEF@home.com>
From: Michael Lankton <mlankton@home.com>
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http://web.imag.fr/Multimedia/openstep/
I finally found this. It looks like it's just for Sparc, and Sun no
longer has any support for it, this page has been yanked off Sun's site.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <25036905659241@digifix.com>
Date: 20 Sep 1998 03:47:47 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <24796906264032@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
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Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
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From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IT EXISTS!! Re: Openstep on Solaris
Date: 21 Sep 1998 07:11:55 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <6u4u7r$bse$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <3602C4F1.C6AB1898@home.com> <6tv31d$eja@slip.net> <6tviej$l86$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <6u4sa5$8e5@slip.net>
Nope not unless I can run SparcWorks in CubX :-) really check the
dejanews.. or go to get the book that I mentioned it is all in there.
Godwin
Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote:
: Sure it wasn't NeXTStep for sparc with Cub-X.app?
: Emmett
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Subject: Re: IT EXISTS!! Re: Openstep on Solaris
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <36060641.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 21 Sep 98 07:54:41 GMT
godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote:
<snip>
>To answer the original user's question I am pretty sure that the binaries
>were for Sparc only.. I don't think it got past 1.0 release.. which opens
>an interesting question since Education institutes has access to Solaris
>source code for free.. it might restart the NeXTSTEP craze?
>
>:-)
>
<snip>
Openstep 1.1 (Solaris) can be (normally) found at peanuts, but it seems to e
rather down today. So I give a mirror link:
ftp://ftp.mb3.tu-chemnitz.de/mirrors/ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep/impleme
ntation/solaris/
Sven
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From: jaugust@bellatlantic.net (John Augustine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GOOD SOURCE....
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:21:22 GMT
Organization: Bell Atlantic Internet Solutions
Message-ID: <36058733.732534@news4.bellatlantic.net>
Some PC users can't find MS-Dos software! A GOOD SOURCE
is Simtel.Net with about 12,000 files in 175 categories.
They also have a Windows software library. NOTE: I do NOT
work for Simtel.Net. Here is a small Simtel.Net sample:
----------------------------------------
BREAKDN2.ZIP "Break Down" V1.2 msdos/fileutil
"Break down" a huge text file at specified locations into
smaller files. File splitters use byte or line counting
which is not ideal in some situations.....
----------------------------------------
COL_PRT9.ZIP "Columns Printer" V1.9 msdos/printer
Prints a text file in 2, 3, or 4 columns. Features
include "Stripper" (option) to remove a part/s....
----------------------------------------
COUNTER2.ZIP "Counter" V1.2 msdos/statstcs
Counts the occurrences of a pattern/s (wildcard/s in the
pattern is an option) in one, a group, or all files....
----------------------------------------
DATAFY1.ZIP "Datafy" V1.1 msdos/fileutil
Convert every byte of any type of file into it's equivalent
decimal number. A byte represents a number from 0 to 255...
----------------------------------------
DEDUPE12.ZIP "DeDupe" V1.2 msdos/txtutl
Remove duplicate lines located anywhere. File does NOT have
to be sorted. Duplicate lines can be put into another file.
----------------------------------------
DIR-ACC4.ZIP "Directory Access" V1.4 msdos/diskutil
View, copy, replace or restore a directory. Not image, but
actual directory. See deleted files and all the attributes
of every file's directory entry including long filenames....
----------------------------------------
DOUBLE15.ZIP "Double" V1.5 msdos/txtutl
View two files in text mode at the same time (split screen
or interlaced). "HiLite" feature exposes differences between
the two files. Also has Search for Differences mode...
----------------------------------------
DRV-RPT1.ZIP "Drivers Report" V1.0 msdos/sysinfo
View all the drivers whose headers are present in the chain
of device headers used by the operating system.
----------------------------------------
F_KEYS13.ZIP "Function Keys" V1.3 msdos/keyboard
Simple to use programmable F keys utility. Enter Dos or
Dos based program commands with a single key press...
----------------------------------------
F_VALID8.ZIP "Files Validator" V1.8 msdos/virus
Validates one, a group, or all files in a drive. Reports
files that changed. Reads every file completely.....
----------------------------------------
FILE_TD3.ZIP "File Time Date" V1.2 msdos/fileutil
Set the time and/or date of one, a group, or all files in
a directory in a single pass.
----------------------------------------
FINDER28.ZIP "Finder" V2.8 msdos/txtutl
Search one, a group, or all files (any type) for a text
pattern/s. Special options include Dual And/Or, Wildcard,
Exclusive, and Mis-Match Allow, etc....
----------------------------------------
HEXIT_18.ZIP "Hex It" V1.8 msdos/binaryed
Create a hexadecimal image file (text file) of any file.
Includes memory and disk sector (logical or physical)....
----------------------------------------
LINES_A2.ZIP "Lines Arranger" V1.2 msdos/txtutl
Makes it easy to rearrange lines in a text file....
----------------------------------------
PURGER11.ZIP "Purger" V1.1 msdos/fileutil
Get rid of file/s that you don't want anyone to recover.
Overwrites file/s completely then deletes it/them.
----------------------------------------
RENAMER2.ZIP "ReNamer" V1.2 msdos/dirutl
Rename a group or all files in a directory in one pass.
Progressive ("001") can be part of the filenames (option).
----------------------------------------
SCRAMBL3.ZIP "Scrambler/Unscrambler" V1.3 msdos/fileutil
Scramble or Unscramble one, a group, or all files in a
directory using a "key" (word, phrase, sentence, etc.).
----------------------------------------
TEXT_M28.ZIP "Text Modifier" V2.8 msdos/txtutl
Modify a text file/s in many different ways. Clipping,
Stripping, Extracting, Excluding, Replacing, Reducing,
Removing, etc. Pattern/s can be non-text such as control...
----------------------------------------
TSR-REM1.ZIP TSR Remover V1.0 msdos/tsrutil
Used for the removal of one or more TSR (Terminate and
Stay Resident) programs that have no un-install function.
----------------------------------------
VECS_CK3.ZIP "Vectors Checker" V1.3 msdos/sysutl
Detects a "lurking" program which could be an active
memory resident virus or TSR program.
----------------------------------------
WH_USED6.ZIP "What's Used" V1.6 msdos/fileutil
Reports all files opened ("used") or created by a program.
----------------------------------------
WHA_NEW3.ZIP "What's New" V1.3 msdos/dirutl
Reports all new (or missing) files (new additions) and new
(or missing) directories, and changed files....
----------------------------------------
XTRACTR4.ZIP "Extractor" V1.4 msdos/txtutl
View any file (can be huge) in text mode, and Mark parts
for exporting to another file, or without Marked parts....
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Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXTStep?
References: <360648b2.0@news.dca.net>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <36064b47.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 21 Sep 98 12:49:11 GMT
dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright) wrote:
>HAs anyone tried to compile Mozilla on NeXTStep or Openstep? Maybe under
>CubX or the like?
yes, but it seemed hopeless to me.
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Subject: NeXTstep on cd
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I will eventually get some black hardware, but in the interim I would
very much like to get NeXT or Openstep for x86. I found it available on
cd from blackholeinc.com, is that my only option? Are there any other
sources for NeXT or Openstep on cd?
From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fiend won't launch (os/4.2/intel) all of a sudden!
Date: 22 Sep 1998 02:56:25 GMT
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For some reason Fiend now locks up when launching.
It gets to the point of
Fiend Initialization
Loading Dock....
and gets nowhere. This same message always appears:
DPS client library error: Invalid tag of returned object, DPSContext bc4fc,
data 839576
DPS client library error: Invalid tag of returned object, DPSContext bc4fc,
data 839576
DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext bc4fc,
data 839684
DPS client library error: Invalid tag in returned object, DPSContext bc4fc,
data 839700
I have no idea why this started, it was working fine earlier tonight.
TjL
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From: ahoesch@on-luebeck.de (Andreas Hoeschler)
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Subject: Designing a font for OPENSTEP
Date: 22 Sep 1998 15:19:52 GMT
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Hi,
has anyone successfully used Fontograper for
- importing a NeXT font
- adding/removing/Designing glyphs
- exporting a NeXT font
What's the recommended way to design/modify a font for OPENSTEP?
Thank you very much!
Andreas
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Subject: Titanic on CD
Date: 22 Sep 1998 11:50:24 GMT
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
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Subject: Re: Fiend won't launch (os/4.2/intel) all of a sudden!
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The "solution" was to:
logout
login as "exit"
login
remove Fiend's Dock file in ~/.AppInfo/Fiend/
re-create a Fiend Dock
Not sure exactly what happened, but at least Fiend is running again.
TjL
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
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Subject: Re: Designing a font for OPENSTEP
Date: 22 Sep 1998 21:42:31 GMT
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Well, there're tools available to convert Unix .pfa Type 1 fonts into .pfb or
Mac format, once this is done it's trivial to load them into Fontographer or
some other Mac or Windows font editor.
The best tool for going the other way is Frank Siegert's fabulous
FontConvert.app available at http://www.this.net/~frank
Hope this helps!
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From: Randy M Bowie <bowie@hydra.cche.olemiss.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backup software
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:56:23 -0500
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try Amanda.
http://www.amanda.org
I use it with NS 3.3 and have used it with NS 3.0 and 2.2 also HP-UX,
Solaris, IRIX, etc.
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3608aa5f.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 23 Sep 98 07:59:27 GMT
luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL) wrote:
>
>The "solution" was to:
>
>logout
>login as "exit"
>login
>remove Fiend's Dock file in ~/.AppInfo/Fiend/
>re-create a Fiend Dock
>
>Not sure exactly what happened, but at least Fiend is running again.
This appears when the files in ~/.AppInfo/Fiend/ are touched by human hands
... . So you (<- the general "you") should always keep a Backup of the dir,
if you have several dozenth of entries like me.
greets
Sven
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From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
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Subject: Xnext
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:35:13 +0100
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Hi,
I've been fumbling around with xnext on my openstep 4.1/intel last nite
and it looked very promising. I do have a few questions however that i
hope somebody can answer.
1. The colors in on the x screen look very faint compared to the
openstep desktop. Do i need to adjust a gamma factor somewhere?
2. The only windowmanager included in the package is twm but i'd like to
run fvwm. Is that available for openstep/mach?
3. I put an .xinitrc in my home directory but is does not get executed.
Does someone have a clue about this?
Thanks,
Marcel
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Subject: Re: Xnext
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3608b9a5.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 23 Sep 98 09:04:37 GMT
Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL> wrote:
<snip>
>3. I put an .xinitrc in my home directory but is does not get executed.
>Does someone have a clue about this?
In the old version (NeXTstep) you had to set the preferences in the
Xnext-Frontend.
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From: Thorsten Mika <mika@uni-muenster.de>
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Subject: Calliope source code ?
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:24:30 +0200
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hi all !
does anyone know if there is a sourcecode available for the music
notation editor Calliope ? i can't do anything with the binaries
(powered by linux :-)) )
thx in advance
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From: f_foucault@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backup software
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:22:13 GMT
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References: <35FCFE5E.605DC8BE@KVI.NL> <3603F5D6.FCB4ADA3@forsee.tcp.co.uk> <36081D07.4C7A@hydra.cche.olemiss.edu>
In article <36081D07.4C7A@hydra.cche.olemiss.edu>,
Randy M Bowie <bowie@hydra.cche.olemiss.edu> wrote:
> try Amanda.
>
> http://www.amanda.org
>
> I use it with NS 3.3 and have used it with NS 3.0 and 2.2 also HP-UX,
> Solaris, IRIX, etc.
>
Hi Randy,
Is it possible that you submit Amanda for NS3.3 & 2.2 to a NeXT ftp site for
the people like us who won't be able to compile it. Is this the latest
version ?
Thanks,
Sincerely,
Frederic Foucault
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From: "Jean-Paul Samson" <jeanpaul@cs.ualberta.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Converting Documents from NEXTSTEP to Mac OS X Server
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:02:30 -0600
Organization: The University of Alberta
Message-ID: <6uc1v8$hb2$1@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca>
I've been asked by a friend to enquire about the problem
of converting documents from various applications from
NEXTSTEP to Mac OS X Server. He has a large volume
of critical documents he will need to take with him when
he makes the jump, but there may be no way to read these
documents in Mac OS X Server because the applications
never made the transition from NEXTSTEP. This suggests
to me a need for batch filters for converting old NEXTSTEP
documents to newer formats. I wonder if there is much
demand for such things?
Anyway, here's a list of applications: (If anyone can tell me
of the possibilities of translating documents from these
applications into equivalent documents for Mac OS X
applications, I'd like to hear.)
WordPerfect--Now I've not used the NeXT version of this
application, but my friend has suggested that documents were
saved in a special NeXT WordPerfect format. Is this true?
If so, is there a way to batch convert them into a more
modern, standard WordPerfect format?
Mesa--He uses a very old version of Mesa, but I assume that
the Mac OS X version will be able to read all manner of out-of-
date Mesa documents.
PencilMeIn and SBook--These are the most troublesome,
because they aren't being ported (as far as I know) to Mac OS
X. Would it be ease to write a filter to convert their documents
into RTF or other scheduling application format?
Jean-Paul Samson
jeanpaul@cs.ualberta.ca
From: "Jean-Paul Samson" <jeanpaul@cs.ualberta.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Automatically Adding Letterhead When Printing
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:05:54 -0600
Organization: The University of Alberta
Message-ID: <6uc25o$hiv$1@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca>
Is there a way to automatically add letterhead to any
document being printed from NEXTSTEP, independent
of the application doing the printing?
Jean-Paul Samson
jeanpaul@cs.ualberta.ca
From: rivet@volcane.foobar.domain.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How can I NeXTstep 3.3 without the CD-ROM?
Date: 24 Sep 1998 20:35:10 GMT
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In <6ue1c3$3ja$1@oak.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Dave wrote:
how about move the fux0rd hdd to a machine that works then running builddisk
on it? the slab only uses one screw to hold the cover on, and prolly 4 to
hold the hdd in. not a big deal at all, just yank it and throw it in a $20
scsi enclosure.
> I recently aquired several MONO slabs and while several of them are booting
> and working just fine a couple of them have either damaged or erased
> harddrives.
>
> My question is, is there any way to copy (over the network) the installed
> system to either a new Harddrive or to a freshly formatted harddrive (like
> dd or similar)? Step by step instructions are welcome 'cause while I'm not
new
> to unix I am new to NeXT.
>
> I don't have any installation media (cdrom, etc) so I'm kind of in a rut.
>
> If the above is impossible / improbable would anyone be willing to hook me
up
> with a recordable cd of the 3.3 install, I'd be willing to pay a nominal
> fee for your expenses (shipping, media, etc).
>
> Thanks for any assistance,
>
>
> Dave
> dmh@cnct.com
> http://www.cnct.com/~dmh
>
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backup software
Date: 24 Sep 1998 08:00:52 -0400
Organization: Quick and Associates
Message-ID: <6udc9k$1l6@papoose.quick.com>
References: <35FCFE5E.605DC8BE@kvi.nl>
In article <35FCFE5E.605DC8BE@kvi.nl>,
Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm looking for (preferably free) backup software or fancy tar script
>that allows me to do regular incremental backups.
>Thanls for any help,
How about dump(8) and restore(8). Free, handles full + 8 levels
of incremental.
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/ / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K.
\_/ (_\/ | If only the HMO would cover my allergy to gravity...
) | Blue skies, and soft landings.
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Converting Documents from NEXTSTEP to Mac OS X Server
Date: 24 Sep 1998 14:31:33 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <6udl45$qtu@shelob.afs.com>
References: <6udelp$238$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
spagiola@my-dejanews.com writes
> "Jean-Paul Samson" <jeanpaul@cs.ualberta.ca> wrote:
> > WordPerfect--Now I've not used the NeXT version of this
> > application, but my friend has suggested that documents were
> > saved in a special NeXT WordPerfect format. Is this true?
> > If so, is there a way to batch convert them into a more
> > modern, standard WordPerfect format?
>
> WordPerfect/NeXT had the same file format as WP5.0 on DOS. I've never
> had a problem converting. Word reads these files in with no problems,
> although some the formatting gets screwed up -- especially font
> selection. But fixing that is usually pretty simple, unless you're
> doing very complicated things with fonts.
You've been very lucky. There are indeed significant differences between
WP DOS 5.0 and WP NeXT 5.0. In fact, a few of the packets are completely
different sizes! We wrote our own custom WP/NeXT converter for WriteUp
because the commercially available translators didn't work at all.
> The other thing that doesn't transfer so well is styles, probably
> because of the very different ways WP and Word implement them.
Not only that, WP had a bizarre way of specifying indents that drives
everyone crazy who has to parse the documents for other formats.
In answer to the original question, WriteUp has a pretty good WP/NeXT
converter, and it can write to other formats once the document is loaded.
> > PencilMeIn and SBook--These are the most troublesome,
> > because they aren't being ported (as far as I know) to Mac OS
> > X. Would it be ease to write a filter to convert their documents
> > into RTF or other scheduling application format?
With PMI, I think you're hosed. But remember, there is a Java version
floating around. Maybe it supports additional export formats (assuming
that it can import NeXT format)? SBook has an Export facility built in.
Considering that everything is free-form in an SBook, I think you'll
have to massage the data in some way no matter how you slice it.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "We're in the land of the blind,
Visionary Ophthalmologist | selling working eyeballs, and they
Anderson Financial Systems | balk at the choice of color." -- Tony
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | Lovell, on Mac user reactions to NeXT
From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: file synchronization
Date: 24 Sep 1998 19:43:11 GMT
Organization: Florida Digital Turnpike
Message-ID: <6ue7cf$93f@obi-wan.fdt.net>
References: <6ue5rl$8s4$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
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In <6ue5rl$8s4$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Randall W. Jackson wrote:
> There are several dos/windoze utilities that can be used to
> synchronize files. This is expecially useful for something like
> consolidating directory structures on zip disks. The most useful
> of these list the filename, create/modification date, size, and
> paths of identical files in a cluster so that all but the most
> recent can be deleted. Is there an equivalent utility for OS4.x?
Not that I know of, and it would be a very handy utility.
TjL
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From: beigel@grover.eecs.uic.edu (Richard Beigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: newsreaders and mime
Date: 24 Sep 1998 15:02:00 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, Dept. of EE&CS, 851 S Morgan St, Chicago IL 60607-7053
Message-ID: <6udmt8$18nc$1@piglet.cc.uic.edu>
I've tried NewsGrazer and RadicalNews under 3.3 but they don't open
mime attachments for me. Can anyone offer me tips on how to configure
the newsreaders?
I also downloaded Alexandra from peanuts but it had expired. There
should be some mechanism for removing programs from the archives
when they are no longer usable. Anyone know Bernhard Scholz's email
address. It's not on the download page.
--- Richard
From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreaders and mime
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:39:36 -0500
Organization: phenix@interpath.com
Message-ID: <1dfv9g9.wrqk6s1cfyocmN@roxboro0-011.dyn.interpath.net>
References: <6udmt8$18nc$1@piglet.cc.uic.edu>
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Richard Beigel <beigel@grover.eecs.uic.edu> wrote:
> I've tried NewsGrazer and RadicalNews under 3.3 but they don't open
> mime attachments for me. Can anyone offer me tips on how to configure
> the newsreaders?
>
> I also downloaded Alexandra from peanuts but it had expired. There
> should be some mechanism for removing programs from the archives
> when they are no longer usable. Anyone know Bernhard Scholz's email
> address. It's not on the download page.
Well, a good place to start looking for info on newsreaders is
<http://www.newsreaders.com>.
They have a link where you can get a version of Alexandra which probably
hasn't expired (<http://www.object-factory.com/Alexandra/>).
As for opening MIME attachments - at the very least you should be able
to save as a text file and then process that (and I'm not used any of
the NeXT newsreaders but I'd be very surprised if at least one of them
didn't do this smoothly).
--
John Moreno
From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randall W. Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: file synchronization
Date: 24 Sep 1998 19:17:09 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <6ue5rl$8s4$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
There are several dos/windoze utilities that can be used to
synchronize files. This is expecially useful for something like
consolidating directory structures on zip disks. The most useful
of these list the filename, create/modification date, size, and
paths of identical files in a cluster so that all but the most
recent can be deleted. Is there an equivalent utility for OS4.x?
Thanks.
Randy
--
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Editor, RSAI Newsletter, The Ohio State University
1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall, Columbus OH 43210-1361
VOICE (614) 292-7998 FAX (614) 292 6213
jackson.21@osu.edu or rsai@geography.ohio-state.edu
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From: Nik Wiesel <uzs198@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fat32 or NTFS under NS/OS???
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:17:18 +0000
Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany)
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.980924211641.384B-100000@ibm>
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Hi, I am looking for a device-driver that allows r/w-access
to a FAT32 and NTFS Partition.
Does anybody know if such a thing exists for NS/OS?
Answers please also to me.
Thanks in advance
---------------------------------------
Nik Wiesel: uzs198@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de
===============================================================
The above statement is my own opinion and does not represent
the point of view of any organization I am related to.
===============================================================
From: nospam-see.sig@narf.ru (Dave)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How can I NeXTstep 3.3 without the CD-ROM?
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:00:26 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <6ue1c3$3ja$1@oak.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
I recently aquired several MONO slabs and while several of them are booting
and working just fine a couple of them have either damaged or erased
harddrives.
My question is, is there any way to copy (over the network) the installed
system to either a new Harddrive or to a freshly formatted harddrive (like
dd or similar)? Step by step instructions are welcome 'cause while I'm not new
to unix I am new to NeXT.
I don't have any installation media (cdrom, etc) so I'm kind of in a rut.
If the above is impossible / improbable would anyone be willing to hook me up
with a recordable cd of the 3.3 install, I'd be willing to pay a nominal
fee for your expenses (shipping, media, etc).
Thanks for any assistance,
Dave
dmh@cnct.com
http://www.cnct.com/~dmh
From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreaders and mime
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 08:37:43 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
Sender: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller)
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In article <6ugmaf$k3n$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes:
> In article <B2DO1.1141$jT1.2280356@news6.ispnews.com> writes:
> |On 09/24/98, Richard Beigel wrote:
> |>I've tried NewsGrazer and RadicalNews under 3.3 but they don't
open
> |>mime attachments for me. Can anyone offer me tips on how to
configure
> |>the newsreaders?
>
> If you have the mime pgm, munpack, and TickleServices, simply
> highlight the mime stuff, select
> Services -> TickleServices -> Pipe To
> and enter
> munpack -C /tmp
> in the pipe command window. The unpacked file will end up in
your /tmp.
>
> If I knew how to add a service to TickleServices, I'd automate
this some
> more, but it's not too bad to do it this way.
That is a great idea! I made a tickle service and a little shell
program.
You have to have Opener.app in /LocalApps (Opener has the munpack
program we
need for MIME) and you should place the little mimedecode script in
/usr/local/bin (or elsewhere in your path) and the tickle service
file
Main.ts in /LocalLibrary/TickleServices.
Then select the whole MIME message in NewsGrazer (CMD-a) and hit
CMD-9 to decode
and open it. It is not very polished, but it seems to work. Have
fun!
Helmut
P.S.: Watch out for long lines which may be split but really need
to be one line. I tried to make this post rich (in NewsGrazer) so
that the long lines were kept as one line.I also tried to drag the
files in here, but that did not work (perhaps because I have OS4.2
here).
mimedecode script:
#!/bin/csh -f
open `/LocalApps/Opener.app/munpack -C /tmp |& tail -1 | gawk
'{print "/tmp/" $1}'`
#
Main.ts tickle service file:
# Begin TickleServices Version 1.11 Data
"Divider" = "186.000000";
"Menu Item" = "!Initialization!";
"Tcl" = "# Services initialization code.";
"Window Size" = "{ 605.000, 336.000}";
|
"English Key Equivalent" = "9";
"English Menu Item" = "Tickle Services/MIMEdecode";
"German Key Equivalent" = "9";
"German Menu Item" = "Tickle Services/MIMEdekodierer";
"Key Equivalent" = "9";
"Menu Item" = "Tickle Services/MIMEdecode";
"Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType";
"Tcl" = "\
# filter the selection through munpack to
# unpack MIME messages (munpack is inside Opener.app!)
exec mimedecode << [list [pasteboard read]]
";
|
"Key Equivalent" = "8";
"Menu Item" = "Tickle Services/TrUmlaute";
"Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType";
"Receive Type" = "NXRTFPboardType";
"Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType";
"Send Type" = "NXRTFPboardType";
"Tcl" = "\
# filter the selection through tr to translate
# PC-style German Umlaute to NeXT -style Umlaute
pasteboard write [exec tr '\\344\\366\\304\\374\\337\\334\\326'
'\\33\
1\\360\\205\\366\\373\\232\\226' << [list [pasteboard read]]]
";
# End TickleServices Data
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From: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <Ezxoz3.1AA@heller.altoetting-online.de>
Control: cancel <Ezxoz3.1AA@heller.altoetting-online.de>
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 08:33:38 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
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2066 cancelled from NewsGrazer.
From: Neill Griffin <mrbean@look.in.the.sig.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Remote printer configuration error
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:02:54 +1000
Organization: Dis
Message-ID: <360EEE4E.B45@look.in.the.sig.net>
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Emmett McLean wrote:
>
> In article <360E5532.275D@look.in.the.sig.net>,
> Neill Griffin <mrbean@look.in.the.sig.net> wrote:
> >Hello,
> > I have is probably a very basic config problem on a NeXTSTEP 3.1
> >for Intel box. It is the only NeXT on our network and I am not running
> >NIS or domains or anything fancy.
> >
>
> I think you need domains.
>
[snip]
> >Anyways, I was trying to make a local printer attached to the NeXT box
> >available to a Novell (3.11 + NFS) server, but when I try to enter a
> >public name for the printer via the Printer Configuration app, I get a
> >'Printer cannot be exported to this same computer' alert and can
> >progress no further.
>
> Yeah, it can't be exported because there is no domain to export the printer to.
>
Thanks for the response, I will have a good read of what you have said
and tinkler some more.
I had actually tried setting up a domain for the box... the default
'mydomain' thinking this was the problem, and all I ended up with was a
NeXT box that got hung up trying to connect to a NIS/YP server which of
course didn't exist. Much 'Ctrl-C' during the boot process finally got
me to a usable situation where I could disable the domain setting.
The doco from Novell indicated that the domain for the remote printer
should be set at root so that the Novell server could send print jobs to
the NeXT box... as well as putting in the entry to hosts.lpd.
Interestingly this doco also seemed to indicate that you should be able
to configure a 'standalone' NeXT box which I presume meant not
configured for a domain/NIS.
cheers
neill
mrbean@mira.net
From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreaders and mime
Date: 25 Sep 1998 13:59:31 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
Message-ID: <6ug7k3$mpq$1@leonie.object-factory.com>
References: <6udmt8$18nc$1@piglet.cc.uic.edu> <B2DO1.1141$jT1.2280356@news6.ispnews.com>
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> On 09/24/98, Richard Beigel wrote:
> >I've tried NewsGrazer and RadicalNews under 3.3 but they don't open
> >mime attachments for me. Can anyone offer me tips on how to configure
> >the newsreaders?
>
> >I also downloaded Alexandra from peanuts but it had expired. There
> >should be some mechanism for removing programs from the archives
> >when they are no longer usable. Anyone know Bernhard Scholz's email
> >address. It's not on the download page.
Alexandra does not expire. I'm one of the authors and I know that there's no
expiry code in it. If you have problems in downloading you might want to
check the official site at http://www.object-factory.com/Alexandra.
The current version of Alexandra is 0.82, was released early 1996 and does
not support anything regarding MIME other than display of 8-bit encoded ISO
Latin-1 postings. However, a new version is going to be released
really-soon-now(tm), ie. in less than two weeks. This version is almost fully
MIME compliant and, regarding your problem, displays inline attachments and
allows dragging of these from the reader window into workspace.
Paul <pb141@nospam.columbia.edu> wrote:
> I did this a while back with NewsGrazer. Save the file to (using Save
> As, or if there's more than one, Append To) your.mbox/mbox. Edit the mbox
> file to add a From line at the top of the header with date information (see
> Active.mbox/mbox for an example). Open your.mbox with Mail.app.
>
> NewsGrazer promised an upgrade (maybe not for Black), but they never
> responded to email. Anyone know the status of their operation?
You mean NewGrazer Pro? That's a good while a go and I haven't heard anything
since.
erik
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From: Michael Lankton <mlankton@home.com>
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Subject: swap on NeXT
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Does NeXT require a seperate swap partition, does it manage it's swap on
a the same NeXT fs partition (like windows manages swap), or, like
unices using ufs, does if break the partition it's on into slices and
you assign a slice as swap space?
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RE: swap on NeXT
Date: 25 Sep 1998 17:36:53 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <6ugkbl$g2r$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <360BCDD2.A78FBD59@home.com>
In article <360BCDD2.A78FBD59@home.com> writes:
> Does NeXT require a seperate swap partition, does it manage it's swap on
> a the same NeXT fs partition (like windows manages swap), or, like
> unices using ufs, does if break the partition it's on into slices and
> you assign a slice as swap space?
NeXT OS's use a swapfile on an existing partition. No raw partitions can
be used. The config file
/etc/swapfile
controls how swapping is performed.
Try 'man swapfile' for details of it's syntax and use.
--
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Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: swap on NeXT
Date: 25 Sep 1998 17:39:41 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <906745180.772252@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca>
References: <360BCDD2.A78FBD59@home.com>
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In article <360BCDD2.A78FBD59@home.com>,
Michael Lankton <mlankton@home.com> wrote:
>Does NeXT require a seperate swap partition
No; it pages to a file.
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From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreaders and mime
Date: 25 Sep 1998 18:10:23 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <6ugmaf$k3n$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
References: <B2DO1.1141$jT1.2280356@news6.ispnews.com>
In article <B2DO1.1141$jT1.2280356@news6.ispnews.com> writes:
|On 09/24/98, Richard Beigel wrote:
|>I've tried NewsGrazer and RadicalNews under 3.3 but they don't open
|>mime attachments for me. Can anyone offer me tips on how to configure
|>the newsreaders?
If you have the mime pgm, munpack, and TickleServices, simply
highlight the mime stuff, select
Services -> TickleServices -> Pipe To
and enter
munpack -C /tmp
in the pipe command window. The unpacked file will end up in your /tmp.
If I knew how to add a service to TickleServices, I'd automate this some
more, but it's not too bad to do it this way.
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: swap on NeXT
Date: 25 Sep 1998 18:38:48 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <906748728.156522@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca>
References: <360BCDD2.A78FBD59@home.com> <6ugkbl$g2r$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
Cache-Post-Path: watserv4.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca
In article <6ugkbl$g2r$1@unlnews.unl.edu>,
Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote:
>The config file
>/etc/swapfile
>controls how swapping is performed.
>Try 'man swapfile' for details of it's syntax and use.
>
Those should all be 'swaptab', BTW.
--
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Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: wbynum@cs.tamu.edu (Wade Eric Bynum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to setup an e-mail server?
Date: 28 Sep 1998 05:00:51 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M Computer Science Department, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <6un563$9j6$1@news.tamu.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Sep 1998 05:00:51 GMT
I am having problems getting my slab to function as an
email server. When running SimpleNetworkStarter, under
OS4.2, I told it to be the networks email server. Everything
seemed to go smooth and i can e-mail from the slab
just fine. My problem is that no messages ever reach the
slab. I send them from various shell accounts and they
just disappear. No bounce back message or anything. I
setup the machine name and domain correctly. Any ideas?
P.S. This is a standalone slab, with a static ip.
--
Kcobra
(kcobra@tam2000.tamu.edu) and (http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~kcobra/)
"I have been and always shall be your friend."
--Spock
From: wbynum@cs.tamu.edu (Wade Eric Bynum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Not behind firewall (Was: Re: How to setup an e-mail server?)
Date: 28 Sep 1998 05:03:08 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M Computer Science Department, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <6un5ac$9k2$1@news.tamu.edu>
References: <6un563$9j6$1@news.tamu.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Sep 1998 05:03:08 GMT
In article <6un563$9j6$1@news.tamu.edu>,
Wade Eric Bynum <wbynum@cs.tamu.edu> wrote:
>I am having problems getting my slab to function as an
>email server. When running SimpleNetworkStarter, under
>OS4.2, I told it to be the networks email server. Everything
>seemed to go smooth and i can e-mail from the slab
>just fine. My problem is that no messages ever reach the
>slab. I send them from various shell accounts and they
>just disappear. No bounce back message or anything. I
>setup the machine name and domain correctly. Any ideas?
>
>P.S. This is a standalone slab, with a static ip.
>
Just a little more info. I am not behind a firewall.
--
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(kcobra@tam2000.tamu.edu) and (http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~kcobra/)
"I have been and always shall be your friend."
--Spock
From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: file synchronization
Date: 25 Sep 1998 20:00:02 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
Message-ID: <6ugso2$i5d$2@news.seicom.net>
References: <6ue5rl$8s4$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <6ue7cf$93f@obi-wan.fdt.net>
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In <6ue7cf$93f@obi-wan.fdt.net> TjL wrote:
> In <6ue5rl$8s4$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Randall W. Jackson wrote:
> > There are several dos/windoze utilities that can be used to
> > synchronize files. This is expecially useful for something like
> > consolidating directory structures on zip disks. The most useful
> > of these list the filename, create/modification date, size, and
> > paths of identical files in a cluster so that all but the most
> > recent can be deleted. Is there an equivalent utility for OS4.x?
>
> Not that I know of, and it would be a very handy utility.
Well, how about running rsync locally? It is able to (and do it fast!) sync
two directory structures over a network and is surely able to do it over the
loopback interface too. In doing so only the changes are transfered over the
line (yes - even inside large files, if there is a file a and an updated file
a' where are position 1234568 one byte has changed it will transfer only a
single block of data)
I use it all the time to sync my web from my home system to my internet
server.
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Please Help Me Install Next 3.3 :)
References: <19980925070557.06031.00001550@ng05.aol.com>
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 04:32:38 GMT
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You need to boot from the Next boot floppy. I think going
through the installer wipes the drive in the process, but I'm
definately not positive. Either way, I've done it and my drive
was basically empty after the reinstall.
It's pretty self explanatory following through the boot
procedure. If you need the boot floppy, I can send it to you
as a .img file from the MacOS.
Nextstep Developer just has the developer tools and apps on
it.
-- John
-----------------
Alastair20 wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have to install Next Os 3.3 on my Next Cube. But how do I, do this ?
> As you can tell I am new to NeXT and do not know much about it.
> I also need to wipe the HD first, Before I can install the NeXT os 3.3 Do I
> have to ?
> And I have NeXT Os 3.3 User & Developer. What is the difference ?
>
> Thanks for your time and help
>
> Alastair.
From: jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: swap on NeXT
Date: 26 Sep 1998 09:18:15 GMT
Organization: Idiom Communications
Message-ID: <6uibgn$4vh$2@news.idiom.com>
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Cc: rdieter@math.unl.edu
Rex Dieter may or may not have said:
-> In article <360BCDD2.A78FBD59@home.com> writes:
-> > Does NeXT require a seperate swap partition, does it manage it's swap on
-> > a the same NeXT fs partition (like windows manages swap), or, like
-> > unices using ufs, does if break the partition it's on into slices and
-> > you assign a slice as swap space?
->
-> NeXT OS's use a swapfile on an existing partition. No raw partitions can
-> be used.
Not so. If a disk or a partition is labeled "swapdisk", the system will
format it with a swap filesystem, and use it as the primary swap device.
I had a 200 meg swapdisk on my next slab for quite a while, until I bought a
new main drive that was a *whole* lot faster than the swapdisk.
-jcr
--
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all the Men and Women rather poorly rehearsed."
From: jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How can I NeXTstep 3.3 without the CD-ROM?
Date: 26 Sep 1998 09:24:16 GMT
Organization: Idiom Communications
Message-ID: <6uibs0$4vh$3@news.idiom.com>
References: <6ue1c3$3ja$1@oak.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
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Dave may or may not have said:
->
-> I recently aquired several MONO slabs and while several of them are
booting
-> and working just fine a couple of them have either damaged or erased
-> harddrives.
->
-> My question is, is there any way to copy (over the network) the installed
-> system to either a new Harddrive or to a freshly formatted harddrive (like
-> dd or similar)? Step by step instructions are welcome 'cause while I'm not
new
-> to unix I am new to NeXT.
Easiest way to do it, is add the target device on the SCSI chain of a machine
that has a full NEXTSTEP system installed, and run BuildDisk.app to format
and install NEXTSTEP on the drive in question.
-jcr
--
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all the Men and Women rather poorly rehearsed."
From: ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de (Benjamin Hell)
Subject: CubX and Keyboard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Summary:
Message-ID: <360f5761.0@news.uni-bielefeld.de>
Date: 28 Sep 1998 11:31:13 +0200
Hello,
I am using CubX 5.0 on a NTSC with NS3.3 (patched)
Unfortunately, the keyboard layout is completely
messed up, especially, there are some dead keys,
like b and e.
I have checked everything for a Xmodmap, that
messes up my keyboard under X, but without
success. It's really hard to work under X without
some of the basic keys...:-((
With a Intel machine, everything works like
expected...
Has anybody experienced something similar and
has a solution for it?
Thank you very much,
Ben
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From: xavierb3667@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Searching for X25 toolkit
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:28:18 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6unkrh$q8q$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hy there,
I'm searching for an X25 toolkit that runs under OPENSTEP/Mach and that is
planned for MAC OS X Server.
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: swap on NeXT
Date: 28 Sep 1998 12:54:37 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <6uo0ud$k5h$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <6uibgn$4vh$2@news.idiom.com>
In article <6uibgn$4vh$2@news.idiom.com> jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com
(John C. Randolph) writes:
> Rex Dieter may or may not have said:
> -> NeXT OS's use a swapfile on an existing partition. No raw partitions
> -> can be used.
>
> Not so. If a disk or a partition is labeled "swapdisk", the system will
> format it with a swap filesystem, and use it as the primary swap device.
Well, yes and no. A disk labeled "swapdisk" will (may? it's been awhile
for me) be formatted (with the standard NeXT file system), and then a
single "swapfile" will be put on it and used for paging.
--
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Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Neill Griffin <mrbean@look.in.the.sig.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Remote printer configuration error
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:09:38 +1000
Organization: Dis
Message-ID: <360E5532.275D@look.in.the.sig.net>
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Hello,
I have is probably a very basic config problem on a NeXTSTEP 3.1
for Intel box. It is the only NeXT on our network and I am not running
NIS or domains or anything fancy.
Anyways, I was trying to make a local printer attached to the NeXT box
available to a Novell (3.11 + NFS) server, but when I try to enter a
public name for the printer via the Printer Configuration app, I get a
'Printer cannot be exported to this same computer' alert and can
progress no further.
Any clues on this???
TIA
neill
mrbean@mira.net
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: swap on NeXT
Date: 28 Sep 1998 13:59:55 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <906991195.350935@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca>
References: <6uibgn$4vh$2@news.idiom.com> <6uo0ud$k5h$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
Cache-Post-Path: watserv4.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca
In article <6uo0ud$k5h$1@unlnews.unl.edu>,
Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote:
>
>Well, yes and no. A disk labeled "swapdisk" will (may? it's been awhile
>for me) be formatted (with the standard NeXT file system),
Right. From /etc/rc.swap on 3.3:
# We have a swap disk, set things up to use it.
if [ $useswap -eq 1 ]; then
# Mount the swapdisk on /private/swapdisk
fbshow -B -I "Mounting swapdisk" -z 21
/usr/etc/mount -o rw,noquota,noauto /dev/${SWAPDEV} /private/swapdisk \
>/dev/console 2>&1
...and so on. Standard filesystem.
>and then a
>single "swapfile" will be put on it and used for paging.
>
/tmp is also put there.
--
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Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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Subject: Cheap software for sale. 25$ US
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:34:44 +0200
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
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Software for sale. 25 $ US
I have:
Microsoft Windows 95 (osr2 97) = 25$ US
Microsoft Windows 98 (final release) = 25$ US
Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Workstation = 25 $ US
Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 server for 10 users = 25 $ US
Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 server Enterprise Edition for 25 users (2
CDs) = 30 $ US
Microsoft Visual C++ 5.0 Enterprise Edition (newest, part of visual
studio 97) = 25 $ US
Microsoft Visual Basic (newest, part of visual studio 97) = 25 $ US
3D Studio MAX 2.0 = 25 $ US
3D Studio Max 2.5 (most recent version) = 25$ US
AutoCad 14 (most recent version) = 25 $ US
MS BackOffice 4.0 (5 CDs) = 25 $ US + 5$ each CD
Oracle Developer 2000 Win 95/NT rel. 2.1 = 25$ US
Oracle Designer 2000 Win95/NT rel. 2.1 = 25$ US
Oracle DataBase Object Designer rel. 2.1 = 25$ US
Books on one CD (same as paper orginal including front page, in HTML)
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If you are interested in something else please tell me and I'll try to
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for you.
Best Regards, Bell.
bellb@triton.navy.org
From: see@sig.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How can I NeXTstep 3.3 without the CD-ROM?
Date: 28 Sep 1998 18:11:54 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article <6uibs0$4vh$3@news.idiom.com>
jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote:
> -> My question is, is there any way to copy (over the network) the installed
> -> system to either a new Harddrive or to a freshly formatted harddrive (like
> -> dd or similar)? Step by step instructions are welcome 'cause while I'm not
> new
> -> to unix I am new to NeXT.
>
> Easiest way to do it, is add the target device on the SCSI chain of a machine
> that has a full NEXTSTEP system installed, and run BuildDisk.app to format
> and install NEXTSTEP on the drive in question.
>
Thanks for all the help. I was able to get Builddisk.app working with no problems.
Thanks again,
Message-ID: <36104F44.F32050BE@home.com>
From: msms <msms@home.com>
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I'm not familar with OS4.2 and the SimpleNetworkStarter.app
that comes with it, so I can't advise there. But I did set
up my NS3.3 slab as a POP server using qpopper, which to me
is more ideal anyway. It works just fine, is fast, and if
you download the latest version and compile it, it's
reasonably secure. There aren't any strange configuration
options, so it's a pretty good solution.
You can get it (although I don't think the latest version)
from the peak archives.
-- John
----------------------
>
> I am having problems getting my slab to function as an
> email server. When running SimpleNetworkStarter, under
> OS4.2, I told it to be the networks email server. Everything
> seemed to go smooth and i can e-mail from the slab
> just fine. My problem is that no messages ever reach the
> slab. I send them from various shell accounts and they
> just disappear. No bounce back message or anything. I
> setup the machine name and domain correctly. Any ideas?
>
> P.S. This is a standalone slab, with a static ip.
>
> --
> Kcobra
> (kcobra@tam2000.tamu.edu) and (http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~kcobra/)
>
> "I have been and always shall be your friend."
> --Spock
From: laurentpignans@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Digital Librarian
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:34:11 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6uq9ij$mma$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hello,
I used Digital Librarian for indexing a directory, but It didn't analyse all
the text documents. It seems to me that if the document is quite big, it
doesn't read it.
Is it possible to force Digital Librarian to index a document ?
thanks
Laurent
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Remote printer configuration error
Date: 29 Sep 1998 07:41:30 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6uqriq$hrv@slip.net>
References: <360E5532.275D@look.in.the.sig.net> <6ulr1f$f9q@slip.net> <360EEE4E.B45@look.in.the.sig.net>
In article <360EEE4E.B45@look.in.the.sig.net>,
Neill Griffin <mrbean@look.in.the.sig.net> wrote:
>>
>I had actually tried setting up a domain for the box... the default
>'mydomain' thinking this was the problem, and all I ended up with was a
>NeXT box that got hung up trying to connect to a NIS/YP server which of
>course didn't exist. Much 'Ctrl-C' during the boot process finally got
>me to a usable situation where I could disable the domain setting.
Wow. Sorry about that. Yeah, before doing anything significant
with NetInfo I tar /private/etc so I can back up to my last working
configuration.
BTW, you can start with a clean slate by the usual :
rm -rf /etc/netinfo /etc/hostconfig
cd /usr/template/client/etc
cp -rp netinfo /etc
cp hostconfig /etc
(Um. I haven't tried deleting netinfo without deleting hostconfig.)
>The doco from Novell indicated that the domain for the remote printer
>should be set at root so that the Novell server could send print jobs to
>the NeXT box... as well as putting in the entry to hosts.lpd.
>
>Interestingly this doco also seemed to indicate that you should be able
>to configure a 'standalone' NeXT box which I presume meant not
>configured for a domain/NIS.
>
Interesting.
Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to setup an e-mail server?
Date: 29 Sep 1998 07:45:50 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6uqrqu$hvh@slip.net>
References: <6un563$9j6$1@news.tamu.edu> <36104F44.F32050BE@home.com>
In article <36104F44.F32050BE@home.com>, msms <msms@home.com> wrote:
>I'm not familar with OS4.2 and the SimpleNetworkStarter.app
>that comes with it, so I can't advise there. But I did set
>up my NS3.3 slab as a POP server using qpopper, which to me
>is more ideal anyway. It works just fine, is fast, and if
>you download the latest version and compile it, it's
>reasonably secure. There aren't any strange configuration
>options, so it's a pretty good solution.
Yeah, if you don't have a NIC domain name this is the way to go.
>
>----------------------
>>
>> I am having problems getting my slab to function as an
>> email server. When running SimpleNetworkStarter, under
>> OS4.2, I told it to be the networks email server. Everything
>> seemed to go smooth and i can e-mail from the slab
>> just fine. My problem is that no messages ever reach the
>> slab. I send them from various shell accounts and they
>> just disappear. No bounce back message or anything. I
>> setup the machine name and domain correctly. Any ideas?
>>
>> P.S. This is a standalone slab, with a static ip.
In sendmail.subsidiary.cf change the major relay mailer to reflect
your ISP. In my case I have :
# major relay mailer
DMslip.net
A trick which worked for me suggested by TjL.
Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to setup an e-mail server?
Date: 29 Sep 1998 07:56:29 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6uqset$i8a@slip.net>
References: <6un563$9j6$1@news.tamu.edu> <36104F44.F32050BE@home.com>
Thought of one more thing ...
If you want your machine to recieve mail you have to
tell your ISP so that it gets forwarded to you. So
your machine becomes the primary mail server. Then
have them set their machine up as a secondary mail
server so that if your machine goes down they can get
your mail.
Well, that was my experience. I set up a NeXT running
3.3 with a NIC domain. I don't know what options are
available to you if you just have a static IP.
Emmett
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From: Michael Lankton <mlankton@home.com>
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I know this isn't alt.NeXT.install.help, but I've read all the faqs I
can find. I am installing Openstep 4.2 on an intel box. I'm no
stranger to unix, I run linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris 2.6 on this machine,
but I'm having a rough time getting to the actual installation here. I
load the driver for primary/secondary EIDE-ATAPI disk controller, which
is what I have, and I get done loading drivers, get the boot messages,
which all look kosher by the way, all my hardware shows up, and as soon
as I tell it to install to the remaining partition of my primary drive,
I get cdrom activity, then it says it fails to initialize the hard disk
and bails. I've tried the other IDE disk drivers from the install
floppies, but no luck there, and besides, I am running the
primary/secondary set up, so that should be correct. If anyone has any
idea or can nudge me toward some documentation that will help me get
Openstep installed, I will be very very grateful.
Thanks in advance.
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From: wbynum@cs.tamu.edu (Wade Eric Bynum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How to setup an e-mail server?
Date: 29 Sep 1998 15:55:07 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M Computer Science Department, College Station, TX
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In article <6uqset$i8a@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote:
>Thought of one more thing ...
>
>If you want your machine to recieve mail you have to
>tell your ISP so that it gets forwarded to you. So
>your machine becomes the primary mail server. Then
>have them set their machine up as a secondary mail
>server so that if your machine goes down they can get
>your mail.
>
>Well, that was my experience. I set up a NeXT running
>3.3 with a NIC domain. I don't know what options are
>available to you if you just have a static IP.
>
>Emmett
First off, a little more detail about my setup. The
official name of my ip address is 232-cdm-230.tca.net.
So under SimpleNetworkStarter, I entered the host
name as 232-cdm-230. This host name is listed in
the /etc/hostconfig file. All of this was done after a clean
install of OS4.2.
Here's a little more that I have found out about
the problem. When sending mail to the NeXT slab,
it seems to actually arrive, but does not get
sent to the account specified (i.e. kcobra@232-cdm-230.tca.net).
Right after mail is sent to the slab, I do a
"ps auxw | grep sendmail" and an entry does show up
that mentions the sending mail server (in my case it
is calvin.cs.tamu.edu). Nothing ever is mentioned
of the incoming mail in the syslog file though.
I had an individual helping me on irc last night, and he
got me to a prompt where I entered "/parse kcobra@232-cdm-230.tca.net".
This is where we found the error. Something along the
lines that the slab did not recognize "kcobra" "@"
"232-cdm-230" "." "tca" "." "net". He said this was
the problem, but did not know what could be causing this.
Any ideas?
--
Kcobra
(kcobra@tam2000.tamu.edu) and (http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~kcobra/)
"I have been and always shall be your friend."
--Spock
From: dossr@ecs.ecs.csus.edu (Robert C. Doss Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OPENSTEP Enterprise on Windows 98?
Date: 29 Sep 1998 16:03:02 GMT
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Message-ID: <6ur0bm$t15$1@csusac.ecs.csus.edu>
I was running OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2 just fine on a Windows 95 box, but
when I put it on a box with Windows 95 relase B, it no longer worked. It
looks like I need to start with a fresh copy of Windows and I figure if I
had to do that, I would rather use Windows 98 instead of downgrading to
the original Windows 95 release. I was wondering if anyone out there is
running OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2 on Windows 98? I would like to know if it
is possible before I take the plunge. :-)
--
Robert C. Doss, Jr.
California State University, Sacramento
<dossr@csus.edu> <http://gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~dossr>
Facsimile: (707) 253-3063
From: George B Haff <haff+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] MP3 on black machine
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:45:24 -0400
Organization: Junior, Mathematical Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 29-Sep-98 [Q] MP3 on black
machine by phk5704@chollian.net
> I have tried to find MP3 decoder running on black machine CT,
> and found only one, MPEGhelper 0.8
> Is there anybody who knows more?
i was also wondering if there exists an mp3 player for black h/w
that would be cool...
someone should write one to use the dsp or something
-george
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From: phk5704@chollian.net
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Subject: [Q] MP3 on black machine
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I have tried to find MP3 decoder running on black machine CT,
and found only one, MPEGhelper 0.8
Is there anybody who knows more?
From: jimi@sorceror.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to launch the GUI?
Date: 29 Sep 1998 23:28:14 GMT
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I have been struggling with an recently aquired slab, and have gotten the machine to boot into single user mode, but have no idea how to get the GUI to come up. I am assuming it is something I can launch into from the command shell, but don't know for sure. I have looked through the directories, but can't find anything obvious.
Thanks,
-jimi
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From: rivet@volcane.is.a.nephs.track.nu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 29 Sep 1998 23:45:47 GMT
Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server
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i think selling burns is bad / wrong and i think someone screwing ppl like
you or dst is evil. i think hurting any NeXT / OPENSTEP company is evil.
<rant mode>
That said, FUCK APPLE! What have they done to keep the platform alive? Not
only do I hate apple, I see ZERO reason to pay for any software that came
from anyone that gave up on NeXT unless a company like yours or dst is
selling it or the company that wrote it is still going to get the money. IE -
if i buy a slab with some wonderfull app that is not possible to get anymore,
I am going to make it freeware. Pirating sux but I think ppl need to be
reasonable
</rant mode>
In <36111F57.2B009A30@ix.netcom.com> Rob Blessin wrote:
> Hello NeXT/ Apple Community:
>
> We have real original copies of NeXTSTEP 3.3, Openstep 4.2 and 3rd party
> software, not bootlegged illegal 4.2 CD Burner copies like the ones we
> just received from a posting in this group. Geeze the deal looked like
> an awesome deal that was to go to be true and it was now we are
> cordially trying to ask for a refund from this person. CD Rom Burner
> dude, you know who you are , yes we have a CD Rom burner to and actually
> asked NeXT/Apple Legal about burning 3.3 CD's when our supply runs out,
> the Answer was NO, so when they are gone they are gone. This is not the
> first time this topic has been in this news group. You realize that you
> are illegally burning and distributing a shipping product from Apple, we
> shelled out $2000 for the privledge of reselling software for Apple and
> several hundred more to resell for Nacscorp. It is how we make our
> living and selling us a bootlegged copy was not your best move, all I'm
> asking from you is a refund of the $170 and that you close your shop
> now. Hopefully people will support this opinion.
>
> Our site is at http://www.blackholeinc.com/ , hopefully bootleggers
> won't put us out of business because that would suck, we enjoy this
> stuff.
>
> We accept MC, Visa and Amex.
>
> Best Regards Rob Blessin
> President
> Black Hole, Incorporated
> 8501 E. Grand Ave.
> Denver, CO 80237
>
> Phone 303-741-9998
> Fax 303-741-9997
>
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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You need to not boot up in single user mode ;-)
What problems were you having that made you have to boot up that
way?
-- John
----------
jimi@sorceror.com wrote:
>
> I have been struggling with an recently aquired slab, and have gotten the machine to boot into single user mode, but have no idea how to get the GUI to come up. I am assuming it is something I can launch into from the command shell, but don't know for sure. I have looked through the directories, but can't find anything obvious.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -jimi
> jimi@sorceror.com
>
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
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What has Apple done to keep the NeXT platform alive? Perhaps by
releasing the next version, MacOS X Server. Whether you like the
direction Apple took it or not is not the same issue. It's still
the same OS (despite that it doesn't quite look like itself).
Plus, it's not like Apple overtook them, NeXT sold themselves.
You can still buy Openstep 4.2 from Apple I believe, at least
until MacOS X Server comes out (which is essentially v. 5 point
something).
Apple gave up on Next? ...this is in reference to what action?
-- John
----------------------
> i think selling burns is bad / wrong and i think someone screwing ppl like
> you or dst is evil. i think hurting any NeXT / OPENSTEP company is evil.
>
> <rant mode>
>
> That said, FUCK APPLE! What have they done to keep the platform alive? Not
> only do I hate apple, I see ZERO reason to pay for any software that came
> from anyone that gave up on NeXT unless a company like yours or dst is
> selling it or the company that wrote it is still going to get the money. IE -
> if i buy a slab with some wonderfull app that is not possible to get anymore,
> I am going to make it freeware. Pirating sux but I think ppl need to be
> reasonable
>
> </rant mode>
>
> --
> -3 PCs, 2 NeXTs, 1 Falcon030. all play and no work makes rivet poor-h
From: rivet@volcane.is.a.nephs.track.nu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MP3s!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 29 Sep 1998 22:20:56 GMT
Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server
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1. get a mp3
2 use mpg123 to convert it to a snd
3. sndcompress with defualts
4. play the snd
result? you get a snd twice the size of the mp3 with similar quality.
--
-3 PCs, 2 NeXTs, 1 Falcon030. all play and no work makes rivet poor-
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] MP3 on black machine
Date: 29 Sep 1998 22:03:51 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6use3n$c3a@slip.net>
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In article <6urmrs$kvi$1@news.seicom.net>,
Frank M. Siegert <frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de> wrote:
>In <Zb8Q1.630$M14.2593849@news.bora.net> phk5704@chollian.net wrote:
>> I have tried to find MP3 decoder running on black machine CT,
>> and found only one, MPEGhelper 0.8
>> Is there anybody who knows more?
>
I'd love to have a mp3 encoder/decoder for Intel.
Actually, I found a promising package about 6 months ago.
Attached is the readme.txt.
Was a demo for NeXT with a 30 day built in expiration date.
Unfortunately I never experimented with the package until
the 30 day limit expired.
Their website no longer shows NeXT as an option and their
sales people responding to my emails couldn't care less.
Here is the readme ... If anyone has any luck following
up in Germany, I'd be very interested in purchasing the
package.
Emmett
31 /tmp/l3v272.next>cat readme.txt
ISO-MPEG Audio Layer 3 software only Encoder and Decoder for Unix
Version 2.71.
Copyright (C) Fraunhofer IIS - 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997
This package is distributed as shareware.
DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO REGISTER IS IN THE FILE register.txt.
You may give copies of this package to other people as long as no file
is changed, added or removed.
Without registration, you may work with this package for 30 days, for
evaluation purposes only. "Evaluation" means that you may compress and
decompress sound files only for your private pleasure, to learn about
the performance of the Layer-3 coding scheme.
If you want to extend the evaluation period, or if you want to use
this package not only for your private pleasure, you are required to
register the package. A registration fee is valid for one single
computer with one l3enc/l3dec running.
- evaluate highest quality perceptual audio compression technique
available today
- software only encoder and decoder implementations
- implements ISO/MPEG Audio standard ISO/IEC-IS 11172-3, Layer 3 and
ISO/IEC IS-13818-3, Layer 3
- music data is input in raw format (16 bit signed integer), in
RIFF/WAVE format as used by Microsoft Windows .WAV files, in
AIFF/AIFC format as used by SGI and Mac or in .snd/.au format used
by NeXT and Sun.
- 44.1kHz sampling frequency (8, 11.025, 12, 16, 32 kHz and 48 kHz also
for registered users)
- output of decoder is in raw format (16 bit signed integer),
in .snd/.au format, in AIFF/AIFC format or in RIFF/WAVE format
- .WAV music files can be played with Windows Media Player
- Under rare circumstances the .WAV output is broken. Please use raw format
in that cases.
- optional decoder output as 24 bit hex ascii data
- written by the very same people at Fraunhofer-IIS who did the
Layer 3 codecs for the ISO and ITU-R (former CCIR) tests
(best sound quality at low bit rates at all listening tests)
- more information can be found on http://www.iis.fhg.de/audio/
The package consists of the following files
l3v270.UNIX_NAME.tar.gz:
l3enc encoder program V2.71
l3dec decoder program V2.71
manual.txt instructions for encoder and decoder programs
register.txt information on registration. PLEASE READ THIS!
readme.txt this file
history.txt infos on the history of this shareware product
go32.exe DOS extender (only present in DOS version)
mp3-bitstreams.tar.gz:
contents.txt short description of the following Layer 3 bitstreams
(CR/LF format)
contents short description of the following Layer 3 bitstreams
(LF format)
funky.mp3 demo layer 3 bitstream (96 kbit/s, stereo, 44.1 kHz)
spot1.mp3 demo layer 3 bitstream (96 kbit/s, stereo, 44.1 kHz)
spot2.mp3 demo layer 3 bitstream (96 kbit/s, stereo, 44.1 kHz)
spot3.mp3 demo layer 3 bitstream (96 kbit/s, stereo, 44.1 kHz)
classic1.mp3 demo layer 3 bitstream (56 kbit/s, stereo, 22.05 kHz)
classic2.mp3 demo layer 3 bitstream (48 kbit/s, stereo, 22.05 kHz)
The song used for funky.mp3 is named "Funky" and was composed and
arranged by Juergen Herre. "Funky" is copyright Juergen Herre 1994.
You may use "Funky" for all evaluation purposes of this shareware product.
You may not use "Funky" for commercial purposes (e.g. radio broadcasting).
The other bitstreams were provided by OMNI-Mediasound.
If you need further information on Layer 3 products, please send email to
layer3@iis.fhg.de or try http://www.iis.fhg.de/audio/ .
You can also fax or mail your questions to
Layer 3 support
Fraunhofer - IIS
Am Weichselgarten 3
D-91058 Erlangen
Germany
Email: layer3@iis.fhg.de
Fax : +49 9131 776 399
NOTE: This address is FOR TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ONLY,
registration information can be found in register.txt
LICENSE AGREEMENT
=================
USE OF THE SOFTWARE IS SUBJECT TO THE SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS SET FORTH
BELOW. USING THE SOFTWARE INDICATES YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THESE TERMS. IF YOU
DO NOT ACCEPT THESE TERMS, YOU MUST RETURN OR DELETE THE SOFTWARE
IMMEDIATELY.
This software is distributed as shareware. You are entitled to use this
software layer 3 codec for 30 days for evaluation purposes. If you want
to continue to use this software codec after the evaluation period, or you
want to use this software commercially, you are required to register the
software. In the sense of these license terms, USE shall mean running one of
the programs and/or make use of bitstreams generated by this software.
You may give copies of the unregistered shareware version of this software
to other people as long as no file is changed and no file is omitted.
You may not sell, rent of lease the software to others.
If you are a registered user, you are entitled to use this product for your
own use. You may not sell, rent of lease the software to others without
written permission of Fraunhofer IIS. You may use only one copy of the
software at one time. You may not use this software on a network or on more
than one computer at the same time without a licence for "concurrent use".
You must not give away your personal registration code. Doing so will result
in an infringement of copyright. Fraunhofer and/or OPTICOM retain the right
of claims for compensation in respect of damage which occured by your giving
away of the registration code. This claim shall also extent to all costs
which Fraunhofer and/or OPTICOM incur in defending itself.
The license and right for the use of this Software does not include the right
to create, generate, encode or otherwise modify data or bit streams:
o to be used, sold, published, distributed, disposed of or otherwise marketed
via pre-recorded media, such as but not limited to CD-ROM, magnetic tapes,
memory cards and the like;
o to be used, sold, reproduced, published, distributed, disposed of or
otherwise marketed via any kind of network, if a user will have to pay
a monetary or equivalent compensation for the access, copying etc. of
such data or bit stream;
o for the purpose of broadcast and/or radio and/or multicast service
transmission such as but not limited to "Internet Radio" and the like.
WARRANTY
========
Don't forget that there are no warranties associated with this software.
While we believe that our software is reasonably bug free and well behaved,
we are in no way responsible if our software does not work the way you would
expect it to work. No matter if it locks up your computer, garbles your
floppy disks or does any other harmful things to your computer - it is
entirely your problem. Fraunhofer - IIS / OPTICOM are not liable for any
infringments or damages of third parties' rights in consequencs of your
use of this shareware product. Fraunhofer - IIS / OPTICOM are in no event
liable for, respectively do not warrant the trustworthiness, quality,
industrial exploitability, serviceability of this shareware product for
the supposed purpose or any other purposes. All orders are subject to the
general terms and conditions "Allgemeine Verkaufs- und Lieferbedingungen"
of OPTICOM.
This information may be subject to change. All brand and product names are
trademarks and/or registered trademarks of their respective owners.
All rights reserved.
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MP3s!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 29 Sep 1998 22:05:28 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6use6o$c72@slip.net>
References: <6urmg8$3h0$2@eve.enteract.com>
In article <6urmg8$3h0$2@eve.enteract.com>,
<rivet@volcane.is.a.nephs.track.nu> wrote:
>
>1. get a mp3
>2 use mpg123 to convert it to a snd
Great idea. But where do you get mpg123 ?
>3. sndcompress with defualts
>4. play the snd
>
>result? you get a snd twice the size of the mp3 with similar quality.
>
>--
>-3 PCs, 2 NeXTs, 1 Falcon030. all play and no work makes rivet poor-
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty)
Subject: Re: newsreaders and mime
Message-ID: <cdoutyF02G8v.80@netcom.com>
Sender: cdouty@netcom12.netcom.com
Organization: Netcom Online Services
References: <6udmt8$18nc$1@piglet.cc.uic.edu> <B2DO1.1141$jT1.2280356@news6.ispnews.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:10:07 GMT
In article <B2DO1.1141$jT1.2280356@news6.ispnews.com>,
Paul <pb141@nospam.columbia.edu> wrote:
>I did this a while back with NewsGrazer. Save the file to (using Save As,
>or if there's more than one, Append To) your.mbox/mbox. Edit the mbox file
>to add a From line at the top of the header with date information (see
>Active.mbox/mbox for an example). Open your.mbox with Mail.app.
>
>NewsGrazer promised an upgrade (maybe not for Black), but they never
>responded to email. Anyone know the status of their operation?
>
NewsGrazer Pro expired a *long* time ago; in fact, it never surfaced as a
newsreader.. The original developer, Jayson Adams, left the NeXT scene
several years ago and the code that was to be NewsGrazer Pro has nothing
to do with Usenet these days.
Having read the code I'm not sure that you'd want to use NewsGrazer Pro
anyway. It was definitely the result of too many 20-hour-coke-and-pizza
programming blitzes. There were some really fantastic ideas about
searching news though. AFAIK, NG Pro did not understand MIME and its
decendant does not either. I would consider it likely that NG Pro would
support MIME if it were actively developed though.
Sorry that I'm being oblique. NewsGrazer is well and truly dead, but
someone still owns the code which came out of that project and may still
be using it. I can drop a few veiled comments, but I am hesitant to tell
the whole story (or at least the parts that I know.)
Cheers,
Chris
--
Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software
cdouty@netcom.com
"Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated
according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic
aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 29 Sep 1998 22:08:35 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6usecj$cej@slip.net>
References: <36111F57.2B009A30@ix.netcom.com> <6urrfb$3h0$3@eve.enteract.com>
In article <6urrfb$3h0$3@eve.enteract.com>,
<rivet@volcane.is.a.nephs.track.nu> wrote:
>i think selling burns is bad / wrong and i think someone screwing ppl like
>you or dst is evil. i think hurting any NeXT / OPENSTEP company is evil.
>
You have a point.
Apple hasn't made any announcements about the final release of Rhapsody.
The last BANG meeting was an iMac OSX demo.
The best that you can say is that NeXTAnswers is still available.
Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 29 Sep 1998 22:12:54 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6usekm$cpa@slip.net>
References: <36117E02.C18A203E@home.com> <19980929214118.09665.00006524@ng92.aol.com>
In article <19980929214118.09665.00006524@ng92.aol.com>,
WillAdams <willadams@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Try getting support from Apple regarding OpenStep 4.2 sometime--"What? It
>doesn't work with that supported SCSI card in a laptop docking station? Sorry,
>you'll have to get a new laptop."
>
At least you got to where you talked to someone on the phone.
Just after the merger Apple's support of NeXT was really great.
I recall speaking to one of their people about problems I was
having with a SCSI drive. Very helpful.
But now, call 1800trynext and the best I've been able to do is
leave a message. I left a message inquiring about WebObjects
pricing but no one followed up.
Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openstep install migraine
Date: 29 Sep 1998 22:23:51 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6usf97$diq@slip.net>
References: <3612F7CD.E0E477E0@home.com>
In article <3612F7CD.E0E477E0@home.com>,
Michael Lankton <mlankton@home.com> wrote:
>I know this isn't alt.NeXT.install.help, but I've read all the faqs I
>can find. I am installing Openstep 4.2 on an intel box. I'm no
>stranger to unix, I run linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris 2.6 on this machine,
>but I'm having a rough time getting to the actual installation here. I
>load the driver for primary/secondary EIDE-ATAPI disk controller, which
>is what I have, and I get done loading drivers, get the boot messages,
>which all look kosher by the way, all my hardware shows up, and as soon
>as I tell it to install to the remaining partition of my primary drive,
>I get cdrom activity, then it says it fails to initialize the hard disk
>and bails. I've tried the other IDE disk drivers from the install
>floppies, but no luck there, and besides, I am running the
>primary/secondary set up, so that should be correct. If anyone has any
>idea or can nudge me toward some documentation that will help me get
>Openstep installed, I will be very very grateful.
>Thanks in advance.
Just the obvious from NeXTAnswers at www.next.com :
-rw-r--r-- 1 na 2482 Jun 18 1997 1789_IDE_Driver_Overview.rtf
-rw-r--r-- 1 na 6888 Feb 19 1998 1839_EIDE_Driver_Overview.rtf
-rw-r--r-- 1 na 4799 Jun 18 1997 1650_Large_IDE_Drive_Problems_with_NEXTSTEP_3.2.rtf
-rw-r--r-- 1 na 8604 Jun 18 1997 1694_IDE8265Driver.ReadMe.rtf
-rw-r--r-- 1 na 6643 Feb 19 1998 2265_EIDE_Driver_Overview.rtf
-rw-r--r-- 1 na 2359 Dec 18 1997 2301_IDE_Driver_Overview.rtf
You might search on EIDE on comp.sys.next.* at www.dejanews.com. Click
on the link to advanced search. I think I've seen this thread once.
Emmett
From: kb7sqi@pindigital.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ICQ clones for NeXT??
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 03:42:37 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6uutnd$86m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hi,
I recently got a NeXT Turbo Color Station running NS3.3p1.
I've installed most of the latest versions of software from next-peak
org. I was curious if anyone has compiled one of the ICQ clones
for NEXTSTEP?? In particular, micq or preferably zicq. Both are
simple text based versions of ICQ that run in a shell or terminal
window. I've tried compiling them w/ no avail. I just got the
system on Monday. ;-) Anyway, I've compiled both programs on my
NetBSD and OpenBSD systems. If you can help, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
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Message-ID: <3610A969.8E0B8AD0@triton.navy.org>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:33:30 +0200
From: Bell <bellb@triton.navy.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Cheap software for sale. 25$ US
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: latest os for Slab
References: <36123452.89C765DF@span.ch>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <36123f56.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 30 Sep 98 14:25:26 GMT
OPENSTEP 4.2 (try Apple)...
Sven
--
Sven Droll __
______________________________________________________/ / ______ __
sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/
please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/
=====\_/=======
LOGOUT FASCISM!
___________________________________________________________________
NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How to setup an e-mail server?
Date: 30 Sep 1998 15:23:37 GMT
Organization: UC Davis - Department of Applied Science
Message-ID: <6utidp$1g1$1@mark.ucdavis.edu>
References: <6un563$9j6$1@news.tamu.edu> <36104F44.F32050BE@home.com>
<6uqset$i8a@slip.net> <6uqvsr$4tu$1@news.tamu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Cc: wbynum@cs.tamu.edu
In <6uqvsr$4tu$1@news.tamu.edu> Wade Eric Bynum wrote:
> In article <6uqset$i8a@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net>
wrote:
> >Thought of one more thing ...
> >
> >If you want your machine to recieve mail you have to
> >tell your ISP so that it gets forwarded to you. So
> >your machine becomes the primary mail server. Then
> >have them set their machine up as a secondary mail
> >server so that if your machine goes down they can get
> >your mail.
> >
> >Well, that was my experience. I set up a NeXT running
> >3.3 with a NIC domain. I don't know what options are
> >available to you if you just have a static IP.
> >
> >Emmett
>
> First off, a little more detail about my setup. The
> official name of my ip address is 232-cdm-230.tca.net.
> So under SimpleNetworkStarter, I entered the host
> name as 232-cdm-230. This host name is listed in
> the /etc/hostconfig file. All of this was done after a clean
> install of OS4.2.
>
> Here's a little more that I have found out about
> the problem. When sending mail to the NeXT slab,
> it seems to actually arrive, but does not get
> sent to the account specified (i.e. kcobra@232-cdm-230.tca.net).
> Right after mail is sent to the slab, I do a
> "ps auxw | grep sendmail" and an entry does show up
> that mentions the sending mail server (in my case it
> is calvin.cs.tamu.edu). Nothing ever is mentioned
> of the incoming mail in the syslog file though.
> I had an individual helping me on irc last night, and he
> got me to a prompt where I entered "/parse kcobra@232-cdm-230.tca.net".
> This is where we found the error. Something along the
> lines that the slab did not recognize "kcobra" "@"
> "232-cdm-230" "." "tca" "." "net". He said this was
> the problem, but did not know what could be causing this.
> Any ideas?
>
>
Do you have a Fully Qualified Host Name entry in NetInfo?
If not, this can be done using HostManager.app. If you do not
yet have an entry for 232-cdm-230, then create a new host with
this name and the assigned IP address. Add 232-cdm-230.tca.net
as an alias for the host 232-cdm-230. Save it to the appropiate
domain (probably local) and make sure that the "This is host's
parent domain" box is checked. Now, your local machine (and
sendmail) should recognize mail destined for 232-cdm-230.tca.net
is acceptable.
--
________________________________________________
Ryan P. Scott
Laser and Electro-Optics Research Group
UC Davis - Department of Applied Science
Tel: (530)754-4358 Fax: (530)752-1652
Email: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu
________________________________________________
Message-ID: <3612F7BB.9058185B@home.com>
From: msms <msms@home.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
References: <36117E02.C18A203E@home.com> <19980929214118.09665.00006524@ng92.aol.com>
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Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 03:30:43 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:30:43 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
I was speaking in respect to Apple using Next technology. Next as
a company is gone, and as such, so is the dedicated support. Why
should Apple be responsible for supporting older versions of an OS
from a company they bought solely for the technology. Be mad at
NeXT for not demanding better customer support when they sold
themselves. I think Apple would have been justified in
discontinuing support completely for OPENSTEP, but they didn't.
At first, everyone knew Rhapsody was to be the next version of
OPENSTEP with an "advanced MacOS look and feel" (sound familar).
Now it seems like people think Rhapsody is a new beast, separate
from OPENSTEP. If anyone's used Rhapsody, they should know it
feels just like OPENSTEP, but looks mac-like.
My point is that Apple hasn't abandon the Next technology or
platform, they're just not going to support older versions like
NeXT as a company may have. Apple will be able to take the Next
technology much further (in installed base that is) than NeXT
would have.
-- John
--------------------
>
> Try getting support from Apple regarding OpenStep 4.2 sometime--"What? It
> doesn't work with that supported SCSI card in a laptop docking station? Sorry,
> you'll have to get a new laptop."
>
> Or, consider the situation of a licensed user of NS 3.3 once Apple's stock runs
> out (if it hasn't already). House burns down or some other disaster strikes,
> all software gone, off-site backups of data maybe, but hey, it's okay,
> insurance will cover replacing all of the hardware and software.
>
> Submit insurance report requesting replacement NS 3.3 media to Apple.
>
> Get the picture?
>
> As much as I agree with the sentiment expressed by the people who started this
> thread, one thing I must argue against, the pirating of discontinued
> applications--this does little to keep the platform alive and much to damage
> it.
>
> Ask yourself, which would you rather have, a pirate copy of Engage! or a
> shareware Fiend.app with source code now available?
>
> William
>
> William Adams
> http://members.aol.com/willadams
> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Message-ID: <36133E17.C6BAEE64@home.com>
From: Michael Lankton <mlankton@home.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
References: <36111F57.2B009A30@ix.netcom.com> <6urrfb$3h0$3@eve.enteract.com> <36122A2D.BF9802D@KVI.NL> <36128C6A.D99A9D3A@home.com> <3612EB30.2A10E8E4@home.com>
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Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 03:31:09 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:31:09 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
msms wrote:
>
> I think people are forgetting that MacOS X Server is essentially
> Nextstep/Openstep. Why not complain that Apple should release
> MacOS 7.5 for free, or 8.1 once 8.5 comes out in the next weeks?
> How about telling Microsoft to release Win95 for free download
> from FTP?
Because those operating systems suck.
> I don't think letting it out for free would make much difference
> anyway. Look at Linux - it's powerful, free, new excellent window
> managers, and you have access to full source code. Yet it's only
> recently gaining respect and still has a relatively low installed
> base. Releasing an old version of an OS for free is not going to
> appeal to many people.
Linux will be on upwards of 20 million boxes long after Apple died,
dried up, and blown away in the wind. The "low installed base" you
refer to powers more web, ftp, and news servers than any other single
operating system. I think the commercial unices and microsoft are just
starting to realize that the little penguin is turning into a 900 pound
gorilla.
From: rupert <rupert.smith@span.ch>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: latest os for Slab
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:38:28 +0100
Organization: News Server of Sunrise Communications AG
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hi,
sorry to ask such a banal question but what is the latest version of
NextStep for the Slab (NextStation, 64k) and where can I get the
installer CD or the necessary files to update from 3.2 ??
thanx
rupert
From: wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] MP3 on black machine
Date: 30 Sep 1998 07:43:43 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule of Karlsruhe, Germany
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Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote:
: In article <6urmrs$kvi$1@news.seicom.net>,
: Frank M. Siegert <frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de> wrote:
: >In <Zb8Q1.630$M14.2593849@news.bora.net> phk5704@chollian.net wrote:
: >> I have tried to find MP3 decoder running on black machine CT,
: >> and found only one, MPEGhelper 0.8
: >> Is there anybody who knows more?
: >
: I'd love to have a mp3 encoder/decoder for Intel.
: Actually, I found a promising package about 6 months ago.
Hey, you speak of l3enc (Frauenhofer Instutit). I coded some Megs
(Gigs) of mp3s, and it worked just fine. The corresponding l3dec
outputs the most important audio-formats (snd, aiff, wav...)
(-> AudioCD!!!) and playd more stable than any of the WinPlayers
richy
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What can i do with a NeXT????
Date: 1 Oct 1998 07:33:35 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6v03rv$4a9@slip.net>
References: <36124bb9.34586452@news.netway.at> <36133b45.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
>
>>Anything else?
>
Master UNIX. (Most Linux applications can be made to run on
NS without much modification.) Telnet to other hosts with
a very nice terminal application which scrolls.
Turn your computer into a fax machine with NXFaX. If you
don't mind spending some money you can the machine in accept
faxes, telephone calls, and data transmissions with OlafAM.
Print/create postscript files and even a book with LaTeX2e.
If you have a NeXT laser printer the quality of your print
outs will be very good, even by todays standards.
Attach to the web with a DSL or cable modem,
run apachie and use msql and perl on your website.
Record music.
Then if you really get into it, later you can add peripherals
like a scanner - then use OCR to turn documents into ascii text.
Add memory and a new hard drive to your machine and learn
a little about hardware (much easier to do this stuff with
a NeXT than a PC)
With more NeXTs you can build your own computer network (not
to hard). That is, you don't have to buy Novell or NT Server
to set up a full network.
NeXT may not be for everyone, but it can do the fundamentals.
Emmett
From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:54:00 +0100
Organization: KVI
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H.-R. Oberhage wrote:
>
> msms (msms@home.com) wrote:
> : You're complaining about not getting an upgrade discount when
> : you're already getting a massive academic discount?! If you
> : had actually paid the full commercial price then you would have
> : a valid point.
> :
> : -- John
> iI would totally contradict you, regarding the number and 'quality'
> of the severe errors present in OS 4.0 (worse than an alpha version),
> OS 4.1 (hardly a beta version) and OS 4.2 (still enough bugs and
> quirks). NeXT and now Apple just drew money from their customers
> if they entered at 0S 4.0. If we had any real software quality
> control, I'm sure they could have been sued for damages regarding
> the lack of quality in these.
I completely agree. I don't think it's reasonable to expect people to
buy the product again just to get some bugs fixed. It's not like we're
talking about a completely new version with lots of new cool features.
Marcel
From: Pascal Bourguignon <pbourgui@afaa.asso.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 30 Sep 1998 23:29:08 GMT
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All this affair just shows us that proprietary software is not a good thing,
to say the least.
For my part, the only good thing that remains of NeXT is the OPENSTEP API
definition, and the only good software to be used is GNUSTEP on Linux or
other free OS.
__Pascal Bourguignon__
From: Adam Barr <chessie@ospnet.nshore.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for Openstep intel in ohio
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:18:25 -0400
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I'm looking for a copy of Openstep for intel that I can pick up in the
cleveland,oh area or there abouts, or even just in ohio. Let me know,
thanks!
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Music notation software for NeXT?
Date: 5 Oct 1998 13:57:37 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <6vaj8h$6rm$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <6v66bi$k3o$1@blackice.winternet.com>
In article <6v66bi$k3o$1@blackice.winternet.com> cejensen@winternet.com
(Christian Jensen) writes:
> You (msms <msms@home.com>) wrote
> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.sysadmin, on Fri, 02 Oct 1998 04:03:38 GMT:
> > Does anyone know if there is any music notation software for
> > NEXTSTEP 3.3?
> Calliope is good, and free:
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/wfc/calliope.html
But it requires the "not so free" Adobe Postscript font: Sonata.
--
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 30 Sep 1998 21:28:18 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6uv0d2$c6n@slip.net>
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In article <3612EB30.2A10E8E4@home.com>, msms <msms@home.com> wrote:
>I think people are forgetting that MacOS X Server is essentially
>Nextstep/Openstep.
How can an OS which has no UNIX command line be called essentially
Nextstep/Openstep?
Also it has no NXHost. I've got a ND with two 21" monitors that
I can NXHost to a fast Pentium. That is, NXHost Lets me keep my
investment in black hardware and take advantage of new hardware.
I don't even think NXHost is available for machines running the
same MacOS X OS.
That's no to say that I might see if I can purchase an academic
version if the Java tools are pretty good. If OmniWeb4.x came
out and supported JavaScript that would make a big difference
for me.
Emmett
From: pb.thurner@netway.at (Jorge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What can i do with a NeXT????
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 06:13:39 GMT
Organization: NETWAY AG
Message-ID: <36124bb9.34586452@news.netway.at>
A friend of mine has offered me a 'cube'. I'm architect, I work with
graphics and internet a lot. What can I do with the machine? I must
say that I like the next concept very much, I do a lot programming
too, and I want to do something with the thing. But what?
Could I for example use it to connect to internet? I mean IRC,
email... (www?).
Could I run photoshop or something like that? Autocad?
Could I link it to NT?
Anything else?
Excuse me for my ignorance, but the last I read about the NeXT was a
Byte article introducing it...
thanks in advance!
From: Emile de Kleine <e.de.kleine@med.rug.nl.removethis>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DAT tape
Date: 5 Oct 1998 15:26:50 GMT
Organization: Rijksuniversiteit Groningen
Message-ID: <6vaofq$lmq$1@info.service.rug.nl>
Hi,
I use a HP tape drive connected to a NeXT for backing up my files
(SafetyNet.app). Is it possible to use this tape drive for DAT audio
tapes as well? I would like to transfer audio files from DAT tape to
my hard disk.
Bye,
Emile
From: mute@sidehack.sat.gweep.net (Josh Brandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MouseX
Date: 5 Oct 1998 18:19:23 GMT
Organization: GweepNet, the GweepCo Cooperative Network - Worcester, MA
Message-ID: <6vb2jb$uah$1@decius.ultra.net>
I have a Mono Slab, 24/500. I was wanting to play with X, so I downloaded
from next-ftp.peak.org two different versions of MouseX-- the one listed as
McGill-X (which comes in the form of a .pkg installer) and the one that
comes in lots of files under X11R5-*.
I could get McGill-X to install, but when I ran it, it started up properly
but didn't sync the screen correctly, so the picture was all skewed and
messed-up. It looked almost like something that might happen if I was using
a color server on my mono station, but there was no mention of that
possibility in the (very minimal) docs.
The X11R5-* version came with very few instructions. I unpacked the .tar
file in /usr/bin/X11 and tries to run the .app file that launches it, but
all it did was turn the screen black and refuse to give it back.
Are there instructions for setting these up somewhere, or was I doing
something obviously wrong?
Thanks,
Josh
--
...said it was heaven just to breathe your air Severed Heads
J. Brandt - mute@sidehack.gweep.net
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 1 Oct 1998 16:38:29 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <3612F7BB.9058185B@home.com>
Message-ID: <19981001123829.01295.00003759@ng79.aol.com>
When I purchased my copy of OS 4.2, I had to make the check payable to Apple
Computers, Inc.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What can i do with a NeXT????
Date: 1 Oct 1998 16:42:13 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <36124bb9.34586452@news.netway.at>
Message-ID: <19981001124213.01295.00003762@ng79.aol.com>
Photoshop for NeXT was never completed.
There are alternatives though, WetPaint which is free outside of Asia, and
TIFFany, which has demo versions available.
There's 3D and drawing software, commercial (the afore-mentioned Create)
available from www.stone.com
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: dan@madhatter.physics.ucsb.edu (Dan Murphy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: aCADemy CAD program, extra licenses
Date: 5 Oct 1998 21:33:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6vbdud$gic@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
Hello,
We are currently using a program called ACADEMY for our CAD needs. However, we
only have one license, and we would like to get a couple more. Unfortunately,
we can't contact the developers. Does anyone know where I can reach someone
who can help?
Thanks
Dan Murphy
dan@madhatter.physics.ucsb.edu
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From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DAT tape
Date: 5 Oct 1998 22:04:55 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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the current Sony ones apparently have that.
Frank M. Siegert (frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de) wrote:
: In <6vaofq$lmq$1@info.service.rug.nl> Emile de Kleine wrote:
: > I use a HP tape drive connected to a NeXT for backing up my files
: > (SafetyNet.app). Is it possible to use this tape drive for DAT audio
: > tapes as well? I would like to transfer audio files from DAT tape to
: > my hard disk.
: No, because the HP DATs do not support the audio extension as the SGI OEM
: Archive Pythons, Sonys or Seagate define. All these other DAT drives need
: special firmware to allow reading DAT audio over SCSI.
: --
: * Frank M. Siegert [frank@wizards.de] - Home http://www.wizards.de
: * NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard
: * Note: [frank@this.net] is still a valid option to send me eMail
: * "The answer is vi, what was your question...?"
From: naatona@proaxis.com (MR. FATTUS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: **VIRTUOSO--EXTRASCAN--IMAGE--WETPAINT--MORE FOR SALE!!
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 15:13:04 +0100
Organization: AQUASPHERA
Message-ID: <naatona-0510981513040001@pr00-22.proaxis.net>
Rare NeXT Software For Sale:
I have the following software for sale: All include original disks,
license, and manuals or documentation if available. Contact me for more
info. Most disks are FAT for Black or Intel.
Last release of VIRTUOSO (2.0) (Next Freehand 5.0) which is still as good
as any design package out. Very stable and is set up with drivers for
most image setters and printers. Very reliable Postscript output. With
disks and manuals. Works seamlessly with Mac versions of Freehand and
Illustrator. Disks and Manuals $150.00 OBO
Rare EXTRA SCAN, scanner support for Epson ES600-800 series scanners
(which can be bought cheap!) This software was 400.00 new and is no
longer available. This is the coolest scanner software for NS. Rock
solid way to scan into your next.
$100.00 firm, discs and license, manuals.
Appsoft Image 1.1x , a rare release of this Photoshop-like imaging app
which came from the developers themselves. Works well, have manuals too.
Great for Web graphics.........still does things no other imaging apps
can¹t. Disks and Manuals-$30.00-OBO
NX FAX, version 1.3 and 1.4, , rock solid FTP and faxing, fax from any
app, NX fax never crashes and can send 14.4 fast faxes: fast and works
great. For Zyzel modems.
$30.00 OBO for each disk and license string
METRO TOOLS 2.0, manager and launcher for NS. Nice utility/extension.
$30.00 OBO
WET PAINT...........V 1.2 good paint app, with disks and License, $30.00 OBO
STONE DATA PHILE: Flat file database, V. 1.04, may not have license,
install discs, $10.00.
.....................................CD-ROMS'S.............................................................
FATTED CALF---CD Rom with lots of fonts and share/freeware, 15.00, obo
CD-ROMS: NS Install Disks 3.0, 3.1 ......for black............$20.00 each
NeXT Third Party CD-Rom, 1993, for NS 3.1. $5.00 OBO
GS Corp Slutions Suite CD-Roms, Volume 1,No. 1, I have two sets, $5.00 each.
GS Corp Slutions Suite CD-Roms, Volume 2, No. 2, I have two sets, $10.00
each. obo,
Lighthaouse Design CD-Rom, With Concurrence, Daigram,Taskmaster, and wet
Paint demo¹s, $10.00. ,obo, 1 only.
Contact me via E-mail or call: Will accept checks, cash etc.
Thanks
Paul Natona Design (ex NeXT Design Firm)
natona@proaxis.com
541-752-9661
Corvallis, Oregon 97330
From: steve@nospam.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape
Date: 1 Oct 1998 21:07:58 GMT
Organization: Internet Specialties West, Inc.
Message-ID: <6v0qve$8jq$1@news.iswest.net>
References: <361408E9.4DD365E@home.com>
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On 10/01/98, Michael Lankton wrote:
>Netscape, who supports almost every unix platform, never did a NeXT web
>browser????
There's a project to port Netscape to Rhapsody.
See developer.netscape.com for details.
Steve
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Using NeXTStation as PPP/proxy and print server
Date: 1 Oct 1998 18:57:54 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <6v0jbi$ruf$1@news.spacelab.net>
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"Bill_Boyer_BBMN" <bill_boyer_bbmn@email.msn.com> wrote:
>I have an old NeXTStation slab that I recently upgraded to OpenStep 4.1.
>I would like to use this machine as an Internet gateway and print server
>for a small Win95 network. I think this means I will need the following
>software components:
>
>1. A PPP package that I can use to dial my ISP.
>2. A proxy server.
>3. Something that will make the NeXT printer accessible as a Windows
>network printer sharable by the PC's. I have actually tried walking print
>files from a PC over to the NeXT on a floppy, but very often I end up with
>PostScript errors when trying to print them. So in addition to the
>connectivity issue, there might be a compatibility issue as well.
Okay. OPENSTEP will not do full NAT, but you can run various individual
proxy servers for things like web service, ftp, and so forth. If you really
need full VPN functionality, get FreeBSD or maybe a CISCO router.
You'll want to get the standard PPP package, Squid for web proxying, and
Samba for Windows file and print sharing. Most or all of these will be
available on the standard NeXT FTP sites, like ftp.peak.org/pub/next.
With regard to the PostScript errors, this is because many Windows programs
and the PS driver under Windows are buggy and generate invalid PostScript.
There's an amazing commerical program called Tailor.app which will clean up
and fix these bugs, as well as allowing other sophisticated PS
manipulation...
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away.
----------------+-------------------+----------------------------
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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> How can an OS which has no UNIX command line be called essentially
> Nextstep/Openstep?
Well, probably because MacOS X Server has a UNIX command line,
just like OPENSTEP. MacOS X Server (Rhapsody) is not the taking
away of features from OPENSTEP, it is the placing on of a new
interface.
-- John
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 2 Oct 1998 10:43:05 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
Message-ID: <6v2anp$46u9@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>
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msms (msms@home.com) wrote:
Two remarks to you postings:
First about your comment to Apple buying NeXT: Since you say you
are a UNIX person, you should be aware of how other companies in
the computing business dealt with the customers of the company
they took over: in every case I can remember much more friendly
(wittness HP/Apollo or UniSys or even how Compaq is dealing with
Digital right now - although the last one is a little bit different
from the subjects/topics involved).
If legal actions against such a behaviour are not possible or worth-
wile (because of cost) as is obviously the case as nobody took some
until now, that behaviour should at least be made public so that this
fact adds to the reputation of such a company.
: > How can an OS which has no UNIX command line be called essentially
: > Nextstep/Openstep?
:
: Well, probably because MacOS X Server has a UNIX command line,
: just like OPENSTEP. MacOS X Server (Rhapsody) is not the taking
: away of features from OPENSTEP, it is the placing on of a new
: interface.
Secondly: This is not the case. I mean, there is also loss in
features (in addition to some possible(!) gain) with MacOS X Server:
At least programs like Digital Webster and Librarien will not be
included, very possibly more, as once more software-kits are
discarded on the step from OPENSTEP to MacOS X Server (e.g. indexing
kit) as was already the case for other kits and the RenderMan
generation tools (like headers and libraries) from NEXTSTEP to
OPENSTEP. So we see a clear degradation of the operating system
here in addition to some (questionable) advantage in interface
design.
On the plus side, there might(!) be things like Java, HTML-integration
into the Textobject classes etc. So from a users' point of view (as
opposed to server usage) there will certainly be a remarkable loss,
only (possibly) somewhat compensated for by features of the webbrowser
and the like (if you use OmniWeb and if you need things like java
(applets) or javascript).
On the plus side (hopefully also) are some bug-fixes like a (more)
bugfree NFS, NFS version 3, and things that come with BSD 4.4 (like
larger disks and filesystems) etc.
On the negative side you have, that most likely all your binaries
from OPENSTEP as well as NEXTSTEP won't run any longer, although
there is some small hope coming from a nice soul that wrote in one
of OmniGroup's lists that with Developer Relese 2 (DR2) you could
get those binaries to work if you copy specific parts from OPENSTEP
4.2 over to MacOS X server (which will most likely not be included
with it, directly); but that really is just rumor. No one has
confirmed this up to now to my knowledge.
Regarding the lack of enthusiasm Apple itself is showing for
MacOS X server (as opposed to MacOS X), I wouldn't expect to much
from it. It most likely is a rather incompatible OPENSTEP 5.0 were
many legacy things won't run (out of the box or at all) and that
is GUI wise change to contemplate Mac people. Also it is said (by
Apple!) to be the last version with Intel-support [another big
minus in my book].
Greetings,
Ruediger Oberhage
--
H.-R. Oberhage
Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
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Subject: Re: Music notation software for NeXT?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
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On 10/01/98, msms wrote:
>Does anyone know if there is any music notation software for
>NEXTSTEP 3.3?
>
>Thanks.
>
>-- John
>
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/wfc/calliope.html
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Subject: Re: Info on Daydream Mac emulator
Date: 2 Oct 1998 16:52:44 GMT
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In <6v2f22$stk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> jim9@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> What exactly is this. I believe it is an LC board that plugs into the DSP and
> allows Mac emulation. What NeXT systems is this compatible with, will it work
> with Slabs or just Cubes.
>
> Any other information would be greatly appriciated.
>
> If you have one for sale I am very interested.
>
> Thanks in advance.
Most certianly works in ALL 68040 systems. Not sure about 030's
Cubes though (I never tried it).
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
spammers works also :)
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Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.)
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape
Date: 1 Oct 1998 22:27:56 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
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Michael Lankton <mlankton@home.com> wrote:
>Netscape, who supports almost every unix platform, never did a NeXT web
>browser????
Not as yet, anyway, but there's some interest in a port.
Also, NEXTSTEP was where the original WorldWideWeb.app was written, and Omni
has OmniWeb which is reasonably functional (less in some ways, more in
others).
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away.
----------------+-------------------+----------------------------
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
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I do have an understanding of obligations to customer base,
but I think you're looking for something that isn't there.
Apple didn't buy Next for the company, they bought it for
the technology. Companies in the computer industry get bought
up all the time and leave their customers in the dust soon
after. That's just the way it goes. It's been over a year
since Apple bought NeXT.
It's not a matter of business courtesy, Apple's done an
adequate job. I think you guys just need to accept that
NeXT is gone.
I'm not a Machead, I just use one most of the time. I'm a
UNIX person. I can remember the days when Steve Jobs picture
was on the front of a magazine (I can't remember which one
now though) for the first time standing proudly next his
awesome looking black machine. But alas, it's over.
-- John
---------------------
> You obviously have no idea about obligations to a customer base,
> don't you? (Which by the way they are even trying to convince
> to buy from and even more develop for them.)
>
> You really sound like one of the MacFaithfulls, that had no idea
> about OPENSTEP before Apple bought NeXT; maybe I'm doing you wrong
> in this, then I offer my apology for this, but it sure sounds like
> it.
>
> Well, at least if a company behaves like this, this can be brought
> to public attention. Let the (then non-)customers decide about these
> behaviour of a company.
>
> Ruediger Oberhage
> --
> H.-R. Oberhage
> Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE
> Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
> S05 V07 E88
> Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493
> D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: Pascal Bourguignon <pbourgui@afaa.asso.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Music notation software for NeXT?
Date: 2 Oct 1998 05:33:22 GMT
Organization: None
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msms <msms@home.com> wrote:
>Does anyone know if there is any music notation software for
>NEXTSTEP 3.3?
>
>Thanks.
>
>-- John
Have a look at Calliope and MusicBuilder.
__Pascal Bourguignon__
From: jim9@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Info on Daydream Mac emulator
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 11:56:50 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6v2f22$stk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
What exactly is this. I believe it is an LC board that plugs into the DSP and
allows Mac emulation. What NeXT systems is this compatible with, will it work
with Slabs or just Cubes.
Any other information would be greatly appriciated.
If you have one for sale I am very interested.
Thanks in advance.
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From: fflak@aurora.alaska.edu
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Subject: Re: What can i do with a NeXT????
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 15:30:54 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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In article <6v03rv$4a9@slip.net>,
emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote:
...
> Turn your computer into a fax machine with NXFaX.
...
Porting linux's efax is trivial, and provides a simple (for Unix) alternative
to NXFax, which is long in the tooth and doesn't come with source.
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From: MAx.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr (Max Barel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Quantrix bug with chart templates ?
Date: 2 Oct 1998 19:19:08 GMT
Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider)
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When i'm trying to open a new chart using "Chart Templates ..." menu, the app
die.
The console show the following message :
Oct 2 20:12:11 mbac Quantrix[329]: objc: PTemplateLeaf: does not recognize
selector -_addChild:at:
Is it the same for any user ? Is there a workaround ?
I'm on NS 3.3 Intel.
--
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(NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome)
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site
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glider secondary site
From: kisshhncom@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need Rhapsody DR2 Intel Boot Disk
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 23:04:40 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <6v3m68$pet$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Our copy of the Rhapsody DR2 Intel boot disk is corrupted.
Can anyone send me a copy of this disk image? I believe you can make an image
in DiskCopy 6.1.3 will make disk images.
(Please respond before sending, so I'm not inundated with images. :-) )
Thanks,
Richard Kiss
kiss "at" hhn "dot" co
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WP Generating the wrong code
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer
Date: 2 Oct 1998 22:28:49 GMT
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Something that has always bothered me about WordPerfect for NeXT that I just
figured out today.
WP has a feature called "Flush Right" which allows you to put some text flush
against the right margin, ie:
John Q. Smith 2 October 1998
where the "1998" is right against the right margin.
Unfortunately this never worked in WP for NeXT. Today I discovered why
(although it wasn't difficult to figure out). The menu item labelled "Flush
Right" actually generates the code for "Right Justify" instead, so the entire
line is right justified:
John Q. Smith 2 October 1998
I was wondering if there was some neat NeXTStep hackish trick that could
change the code associated with the menu item?
Hope-fully,
TjL
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What can i do with a NeXT????
Date: 2 Oct 1998 22:22:19 GMT
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In <6v2rje$e0u$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> fflak@aurora.alaska.edu wrote:
> In article <6v03rv$4a9@slip.net>,
> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote:
> ...
> > Turn your computer into a fax machine with NXFaX.
> ...
>
> Porting linux's efax is trivial, and provides a simple (for Unix)
alternative
> to NXFax, which is long in the tooth and doesn't come with source.
I'd very much like to see a port of efax (intel & m68k).
Where is there information about it (supported modems, etc)?
Thanks
TjL
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From: kisshhncom@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need Rhapsody DR2 Intel Boot Disk
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 23:16:12 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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Our boot disk for Rhapsody DR2 Intel includes many read errors.
Can someone send me a disk image? Disk Copy 6.1.3 will make images, I believe.
Please respond by e-mail first before sending an image, so I'm not
overwhelmed. :)
Thanks,
Richard Kiss
kiss "at" hhn "dot" com
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 22:53:07 -0600
From: rbruels@pcisys.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTStep 3.3 Download?
Message-ID: <rbruels-0510982253070001@net5-cust137.cos.wantweb.net>
hey,
I just aquired one of the beautiful black NeXTstations, in perfect
condition minus the lack of a hard drive - -
Where can I get the NeXTStep OS and appropriate installers for 3.3? I
don't know much about NeXT, but I'm hoping to quickly learn with my new
station. ;)
Please get back to me!
Ryan Bruels
rbruels@cos.wantweb.net
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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> Secondly: This is not the case. I mean, there is also loss in
> features (in addition to some possible(!) gain) with MacOS X Server:
I didn't mean to suggest no features were taken away or added at
all, I was speaking about the foundation - rather than specific
apps or utilities. API developments (the kits) are natural, so
I don't count those. Plus, I would imagine many of the API
changes were made by NeXT for OPENSTEP 5.x.
> Regarding the lack of enthusiasm Apple itself is showing for
> MacOS X server (as opposed to MacOS X), I wouldn't expect to much
> from it. It most likely is a rather incompatible OPENSTEP 5.0 were
> many legacy things won't run (out of the box or at all) and that
> is GUI wise change to contemplate Mac people.
You're probably right coming from the OPENSTEP prespective.
Apple will be trying to push MacOS X Server onto Mac people,
partially so they don't switch over to WinNT. Rhapsody will be
bundled with some nice apps, so it'll make a great upgrade or
server solution for Mac persons. I think Apple's been
downplaying Rhapsody for the sake of MacOS X, to get MacOS users
used to the fact that the MacOS foundation as we know it will
be gone - so they don't get worried. Once MacOS X Server comes
out, I suspect Apple will push it a lot more.
> to be the last version with Intel-support [another big
> minus in my book].
Well, it's a big plus in Apple's pocketbook. Selling this OS
for competitors hardware was probably the stupidest thing Apple
could have done for themselves as a company. Their computer sales
would probably get cut in half or more. Hardware is their cash
crop, they would be toast at the hands of lower priced (and
crappier) PC hardware. Apple can't take on all of the PC clone
makers as competition.
-- John
From: jcr.remove@this.phrase.idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Building Perl 5.005 on OpenStep 4.2 (Help!)
Date: 4 Oct 1998 14:33:17 GMT
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I'm trying to build Perl 5.005 on my turbo color slab, and it's dying on me
when it tries to build the converters in the "pod" directory. Very weird
symptom:
This is the error I see:
Extracting pod2man (with variable substitutions)
DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/ftp/perl5.005: ./miniperl -Ilib pod/pod2text.PL
Can't find string terminator '"' anywhere before EOF at pod/pod2text.PL line
4.
*** Exit 255
Stop.
And when I went and looked at pod2text.PL, the offending line just said:
1>#!/usr/local/bin/perl
2>
3> use Config;
4>use File::Basename qw(&basename &dirname);
5>use Cwd;
Which is exactly how the other pod2(whatever) modules start!
Anyone know what kind of voodo I have to do here?
-jcr
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all the Men and Women rather poorly rehearsed."
From: "Patrick Oberholzer" <p.o@gmx.net>
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Subject: Finanz Buchhaltung 98
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:16:18 +0100
Organization: Swisscom AG, the blue window
Message-ID: <6vdflc$mim$2@bw107zhb.bluewin.ch>
visit http://members.xoom.com/skiver/fibu98.htm
es muss nicht jede gute Software teuer sein!!!!
Habe ich selber entwickelt, der Preis richtet sich nach der Anfrage, ich
rechne so mit ca. 30-50 Schweizer Franken
From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DAT tape
Date: 6 Oct 1998 15:01:05 GMT
Organization: Frank's Area 51
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In <6vbfq7$kvf$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Godwin wrote:
> the current Sony ones apparently have that.
No, unfortunately not. I know because I own a Sony SDT-9000 tape, which is
great for backup purposes but its plain vanilla firmware (0200) does not
support audio, there exists a OEM firmware from SGI for this tape drive but
one can only get if if you buy the drive from SGI (as SGI tape).
--
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 Download?
Date: 6 Oct 1998 14:44:21 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
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In article <rbruels-0510982253070001@net5-cust137.cos.wantweb.net>,
<rbruels@pcisys.net> wrote:
>hey,
>
>Where can I get the NeXTStep OS and appropriate installers for 3.3?
You can buy it from Black Hole; http://www.blackholeinc.com. Copies are
sometimes posted to c.s.n.marketplace as well.
--
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Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
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Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: cejensen@winternet.com (Christian Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Music notation software for NeXT?
Date: 3 Oct 1998 21:52:50 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <6v66bi$k3o$1@blackice.winternet.com>
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You (msms <msms@home.com>) wrote
in newsgroup comp.sys.next.sysadmin, on Fri, 02 Oct 1998 04:03:38 GMT:
> Does anyone know if there is any music notation software for
> NEXTSTEP 3.3?
Calliope is good, and free:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/wfc/calliope.html
NoteAbility is very good, and *not* free:
http://debussy.music.ubc.ca/~opus1/NoteAbility/NAwelcome.html
--Chris
**************************
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From: cejensen@winternet.com (Christian Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Info on Daydream Mac emulator
Date: 3 Oct 1998 21:57:42 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <6v66km$k3o$2@blackice.winternet.com>
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You (Wade Eric Bynum <wbynum@cs.tamu.edu>) wrote
in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 2 Oct 1998 21:11:40 GMT:
> Where can this be purchased
comp.sys.next.marketplace. The company that made this (www.quix.ch), stopped doing so quite a awhile ago.
--Chris
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From: cejensen@winternet.com (Christian Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape
Date: 3 Oct 1998 22:00:51 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc.
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You (Charles W. Swiger <chuck@codefab.com>) wrote
in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 1 Oct 1998 22:27:56 GMT:
> Not as yet, anyway, but there's some interest in a port.
Do you mean a port to NEXTSTEP? Or do you refer to the Mozilla/Rhapsody port. (Sadly, the former might actually wind up having a larger potential user base.)
--Chris
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Translate NEXTTOYOU from German to English
Date: 6 Oct 1998 11:27:08 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <6vdnds$euf@slip.net>
Hi,
Has anyone tried translating NEXTTOYOU
articles written in German to English
with http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com ?
Hat jemand versucht, die NEXTTOYOU-Artikel zu |bersetzen, die in
Deutsch-Englisches mit http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com geschrieben werden?
Emmett
From: frank@REMOVE_SPAMLOCK.wizards.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What can i do with a NeXT????
Date: 4 Oct 1998 01:35:14 GMT
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In <6v3jmr$cmf@obi-wan.fdt.net> TjL wrote:
> > Porting linux's efax is trivial, and provides a simple (for Unix)
> alternative
> > to NXFax, which is long in the tooth and doesn't come with source.
>
> I'd very much like to see a port of efax (intel & m68k).
> Where is there information about it (supported modems, etc)?
I cite the README:
# any Class 1, 2 or 2.0 fax modem
It seems to work for my USR Courier V.everything, 'porting' was easy,
it compiled with minor changes right out of the box.
# This version of the program was written & tested under Linux 2.0.
# Previous versions have been compiled and used under AIX
# 3.2.4/4.1.2, A/UX, BSD, HP-UX, IRIX 5.2, NeXT, OSF/1V1.3, Solaris
# 2.x, SunOS 4.1.1/4.1.3, SCO 3.2.0, SysVR4.2, and ULTRIX 4.3 and
# should work with minor changes on any modern UNIX with an ANSI C
# compiler and libraries that include select(2) and termios(4).
--
* Frank M. Siegert [frank@wizards.de] - Home http://www.wizards.de
* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard
* Note: [frank@this.net] is still a valid option to send me eMail
* "The answer is vi, what was your question...?"
From: Chris Hurlbutt-XIOtech <chrish@xiotech.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon,comp.sys.pyramid,comp.sys.ridge,comp.sys.sequent,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp
Subject: Re: "$$$U NEED CASH $$$?READ THIS$$$$!!!
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 15:12:11 -0400
Organization: XIOtech
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SGI salesman looking for revenue angle and a fast buck while NT product is in
development...
Asma wrote:
> You Gotta Try This!!!!!!!!
>
> Turn $6 into $60,000 in just a matter of weeks!!!
> This is simple, safe, and it really works! For $6 (U.S), 6 stamps, and
> as much of your time as you want to devote, you could earn a year's salary
> in a
> month.
> Sounds to good to be true, but just imagine. WHAT IF?
> A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like
> you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you
> could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial
> investment of $6.00!
> So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam!" but like most of us, I
> was curious. Like most of us, I kept reading. Anyway, it said that if
> you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and addresses stated in the
> article, you could make thousands in a very short period of time. You then
> place your own name and address at the bottom of the list at #6, and post
> the
> article to at least 200 newsgroups. (There are about 22,000.) or e-mail
> them to friends, or e-mailing lists...
> No catch, that was it.
> Even though the investment was a measly $6, I had three questions that
> needed to be answered before I could get involved in this sort of thing.
> 1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL?
> I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I would
> actually make any money but he said it WAS LEGAL if I wanted to try it.
> I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter but the details of the
> system (SEE BELOW) actually made it a legitimate legal business.
> 2. Would the Post Office be ok with this...?
> I called them: 1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS ABSOLUTELY
> LEGAL!
> (See Title 18,h sections 1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws). This
> clarifies the program of collecting names and addresses for a mailing
> list.
> 3. Is this moral?
> Well, everyone who sends me a buck has a good chance of getting A LOT
> of money ... a much better chance than buying a lottery ticket!
> So, having these questions answered, I invested EXACTLY $7.92 ... six
> $1.00 bills and six 32 cent postage stamps ... and boy am I glad I did!
> Within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I
> still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it another thought. But the
> money just continued coming in. In the first week I made a few dollars
> in the second week I made about twenty and now 5 weeks into it I've made
> $500
> and
> it's still coming in..... To make lots of money at this you need to be
> persistent and
> continue to post, even if you only spend 20 minutes a day doing it the
> payoff
> is
> worth the effort.
> It's certainly worth $6.00 and 6 stamps!
> So now I'm reposting this so I can make even more money! The *ONLY*
> thing stopping *ANYONE* from enriching their own bank account is pure
> laziness!
> It took me all of 5 MINUTES to print this out, follow the directions,
> and begin posting to newsgroups. It took me a mere hour and a half to post
> to over 500 newsgroups/bulletin boards. And for this GRAND TOTAL investment
> of $ 7.92 (US)
> and under TWO HOURS of my time, I have reaped an incredible amount of
> money
> --
> like nothing I've ever even heard of anywhere before!
> 'Nuff said!
> Let me tell you how this works, and most importantly, why it works.
> Also, make sure you print a copy of this article now, so you can get the
> information off of it when you need it. The process is very simple and
> consists of THREE easy steps.
> ============
> HOW IT WORKS
> ============
> STEP 1:
> ------
> Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of
> paper:
> PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST.
> $1 US DOLLAR PROCESSING FEE IS ENCLOSED.
> (THIS IS KEY AS THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT LEGAL SINCE YOU ARE
> PAYING FOR AND
> LATER OFFERING A SERVICE).
> Now get 6 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper
> so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent theft/robbery.
> Then, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You
> should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating
> the above phrase and an U.S. $1.00 bill.
> Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:
>
> #1- Carsten Madsen
> Hovabgsvej 59
> 9500 Hobro
> Dk, Denmark
> #2- Marley Hanson
> 402 East Eagle Road
> Havertown,pa 19083
> USA
> #3- P. Lavin
> 510 Walnut Street
> Suite 1000
> Philadelphia,Pa 19106
> USA
> #4- N. Russell
> 7518 N. 20th. Street
> Philadelphia,Pa 19138
> USA
> #5- Ms. S. Buchanan
> 706 23rd Avenue South
> Seattle, WA 98144
> USA
> #6- Asma Imtiaz
> P.O Box 1493
> Sharjah
> U.A.E
> STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
> other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc.) and add YOUR Name as
> number 6 on the list. (If you want to remain anonymous put a nickname,
> but the address MUST be correct. It, of course, MUST contain your
> country, state/district/area, zip code, etc! You wouldn't want your money to
> fly
> away, would you?).
> STEP 3: Now post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups.
> Remember that 200 postings are just a guideline. The more you post, the
> more money you make!
> Don't know HOW to post in the news groups? Well do exactly the
> following:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS FAST WITH YOUR WEB
> BROWSER:
> The fastest way to post a newsletter: Highlight and COPY
> (Ctrl-C) the text of this posted message and PASTE (Ctrl-V) it into a
> plain text editor (as Wordpad) and save it. After you have made the
> necessary changes that are stated above, simply COPY (Ctrl-C) and PASTE
> (Ctrl-V)
> the text into the message composition window, after selecting a
> newsgroup, and post it! (Or you can attach the file, without writing
> anything to
> the message window.)
> ------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> If you have Netscape Navigator 3.0 do the following:
> 1. Click on any newsgroup like normal, then click on 'TO NEWS'. This
> will bring up a box to type a message in.
> 2. Leave the newsgroup box like it is, change the subject box to
> something flashy, something to catch the eye, as "$$$ NEED CASH $$$?
> READ HERE! $! $! $" Or "$$$! MAKE FAST CASH, YOU CAN'T LOSE! $$$". Or you
> can use my subject title.
> 3. Now click on 'ATTACHMENTS'. Then click on 'ATTACH FILE'. Find your
> file on your Hard Disk (the one you saved from the text editor). Once
> you find it, click on it and then click 'OPEN' and 'OK'. You should now see
> your file name in the attachments box.
> 4. Now click on 'SEND'/'POST'. You see? Now you just have 199 to go!
> (Don't worry, it's easy and quick once you get used to it.) NOTE: All
> the versions of Netscape Navigator's are similar to each other, so you'll
> have no problem to do this if you don't have Netscape Navigator 3.0.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ! QUICK TIP!
> (For Netscape Navigator 3.x and above)
> You can post this message to many newsgroups at a time, by simply
> selecting a newsgroup near the top of the screen, hold
> down the SHIFT, and then select a newsgroup near the bottom of the
> screen. All of the newsgroups in/between will be selected. After that, you
> follow/do the basic steps, stated below at this letter, except for step #1.
> You can go to the page stated below in this letter and click on a
> newsgroup to open up the newsgroups window. Once you've done this, in the
> same window go to 'OPTIONS', and then mark 'SHOW ALL NEWSGROUPS' and 'SHOW
> ALL MESSAGES'.
> Now you can see all the newsgroups and you can apply easier the above
> tip.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> If you have MS Internet Explorer do the following:
> 1. Go to the newsgroups and press 'POST AN ARTICLE'. To the new
> window type your headline in the subject area and then click in the
> large window below.
> There either PASTE your letter (which it's been copied from the text
> editor), or attach the file which contains it.
> 2. Then click on 'SEND' or 'OK'. NOTE: All versions of MS Internet
> Explorer are similar to each other, so you won't have any problem doing
> this.
> GENERAL NOTES ON POSTING: A nice page where you'll find all the
> newsgroups if you want help is http://www.liszt.com/ (When you go to the
> home page, click on the link 'Newsgroup Directory'). But I don't think
> you'll have any problem posting because it's very easy once you've
> found the newsgroups. All these web browsers are similar. It doesn't
> matter which one you have. (But it makes it very easy if you have
> Netscape Navigator 3.0 or later. You may download it from the Internet if
> you
> don't have it.) You just have to remember the basic steps, stated below.
> BASIC STEPS FOR POSTING:
> 1. Find a newsgroup and you click on it.
> 2. You click on 'POST AN/NEW ARTICLE' or 'TO NEWS' or anything else
> similar to these.
> 3. You type your flashy headline in the subject box.
> 4. Now, either you attach the file containing your amended letter, or
> you PASTE the letter. (You have to COPY it from the text editor, of
> course, from before.)
> 5. Finally, you click on 'SEND' or 'POST' or 'OK', whatever is there.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE
> MONEY YOU WILL MAKE! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**
> That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within
> days! If you don't see immediate results don't give up just post to more
> newsgroups,
> e-mail your friends or whatever and I guarentee you'll see BIG results!
> You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount
> of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a
> name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it.
> **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT. **
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> =================
> Now the WHY part:
> =================
> Out of 200 postings; say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example).
> So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the
> 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each
> with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of
> the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make
> 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will
> bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post
> the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies
> each, I will make an additional $625.00! OK, now here is the fun part,
> each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2
> and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00! Those
> 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name
> at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive
> $15,625,00! MAKE SURE YOU RECIEVE AT LEAST 5 RESPONSES WITH IN THE
> FIRST 2 WEEKS AS THIS WILL INSURE THE ABOVE SCENARIO WORKS!!!!!
> With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! And as I said 5
> responses is actually VERY LOW! Average are probable 20 to 30! So lets
> put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is what you will
> make:
> at #6 $15.00
> at #5 $225.00
> at #4 $3,375.00
> at #3 $50,625.00
> at #2 $759,375.00
> at #1 $11,390,625.00
> When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
> posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the
> list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The
> thing to remember is, do you realize that thousands of people all over the
> world
> are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU
> are now!
> So can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works? I think so... People
> have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the
> money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons
> of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the internet and
> newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at
> 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining
> the actual Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will
> work. You just have to be honest.
> By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with
> your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the
> people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to
> knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that's after
> eight weeks! Then he sent the 6 $1.00 bills, people added him to their
> lists,
> and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and
> most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without
> costing anything but our time! You also may want to buy mailing and
> e-mail lists for future dollars. Make sure you print this article out
> RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and
> always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing
> fairly.
> Remember that HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the
> basic idea to make the money!
> GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from
> this, which is tons of extra CASH. Please remember to declare your extra
> income. Thanks once again...
> ===========================================================
> ==========
> LEGAL? ? ? (Comments from Bob Novak who started this new version.)
> "People have asked me if this is really legal. Well, it is! You are
> using the Internet to advertise you business. What is that business? You are
> assembling a mailing list of people who are interested in home based
> computer and online business and methods of generating income at home.
> Remember that people send you a small fee to be added to your mailing
> list.
> It is legal. What will you do with your list of thousands of names?
> Compile all of them into a database and sell them as "Mailing Lists"
> on the internet in a similar manner, if you wish, and make more money.
> How do you think you get all the junk mail that you do? Credit card
> companies, mail order, Utilities, anyone you deal with through the mail
> can sell your name and address on a mailing list, unless you ask them
> not to, in addition to there regular business, So, why not do the same
> with the list you collect. You can find more info about "Mailing Lists"
> on the internet using any search engine.
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From: seran@serlaks.concentric.net (Seralaathan Hariharesan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PostscriptHelper
Date: 04 Oct 1998 17:27:09 PDT
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Message-ID: <6v93ot$5bk@journal.concentric.net>
where can i find the software PostscriptHelper which lets you print just
even or odd pages from a postscript file.
thanks in advance.
sh
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Info on Daydream Mac emulator
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 14:31:22 +0200
Organization: Lavielle
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Wade Eric Bynum wrote:
> In article <36151083.0@news.dca.net>,
> Darren Wright <dwright@universal.dca.net> wrote:
> >> Most certianly works in ALL 68040 systems. Not sure about 030's
> >> Cubes though (I never tried it).
> >
> ...
>
> Where can this be purchased and does it also work with
> slabs? Thanks.
>
You should post a WTB message into -> comp.sys.next.marketplace.
Of course it works with slabs, I've use it with a Monostation.
--
Valentino Kyriakides
Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co. Tel.: +49(0)40 / 65 80 8 - 997
Lotharstrasse 2b, D-22041 Hamburg, Germany Fax.: +49(0)40 / 65 808-202
http://www.lavielle.com/ mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com
From: Ed Kim <suncoast2@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,de.comp.sys.ibm-pc,fj.sys.ibmpc,fj.sys.pc98,fr.comp.sys.pc,han.comp.sys.ibmpc,news.admin.sys.ibm.pc.classic,news.admin.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.mail.list-admin.software,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.software.backoffice,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.software.compatibility,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.software.services,comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.software.international,comp.sys.next.software,hanse.software,news.admin.lang.java.softwaretools,news.software.b
Subject: Re: Cheap software for sale. 25$ US
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 03:31:58 -0700
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
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CC: I, want, to, purchase
Bell wrote:
>
> Software for sale. 25 $ US
>
> I have:
>
> Microsoft Windows 95 (osr2 97) = 25$ US
>
> Microsoft Windows 98 (final release) = 25$ US
>
> Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Workstation = 25 $ US
>
> Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 server for 10 users = 25 $ US
>
> Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 server Enterprise Edition for 25 users (2
> CDs) = 30 $ US
>
> Microsoft Visual C++ 5.0 Enterprise Edition (newest, part of visual
> studio 97) = 25 $ US
>
> Microsoft Visual Basic (newest, part of visual studio 97) = 25 $ US
>
> 3D Studio MAX 2.0 = 25 $ US
>
> 3D Studio Max 2.5 (most recent version) = 25$ US
>
> AutoCad 14 (most recent version) = 25 $ US
>
> MS BackOffice 4.0 (5 CDs) = 25 $ US + 5$ each CD
>
> Oracle Developer 2000 Win 95/NT rel. 2.1 = 25$ US
>
> Oracle Designer 2000 Win95/NT rel. 2.1 = 25$ US
>
> Oracle DataBase Object Designer rel. 2.1 = 25$ US
>
> Books on one CD (same as paper orginal including front page, in HTML)
> = 25$ US
>
> All prices include shipment.
>
> If you are interested in please send email to bellb@triton.navy.org
>
> If you are interested in something else please tell me and I'll try to
> get it
> for you.
>
> Best Regards, Bell.
> bellb@triton.navy.org
I would like to purchase the win 98 please advise me as to where I shoul
mail the payment?
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I may get labeled as a Mac freak for this response, but I'm
not. I'm a UNIX person, and I say this from an administrative
perspective.
My experience with Macs that crash have done nothing but proven
to me that the problems with Macs are the users. I was responsible
for hundreds of Macintosh computers, from LCs to G3s, and this
was the case with every single one - and there was not a single
one I couldn't get to stop. My main Mac at home crashes once a
month, at most. And that's because my hard drive is slightly
defective (I haven't had time to return it). Before the new
drive, it went down 2 times in one year.
Even though Win95 can be a pain in the butt, if it crashed 56
times at your hands in one weekend maybe you shouldn't be taking
on Linux...it's not quite as easy as Win95. It may be more
stable, but that's no replacement for not knowing how to take
care of a computer. Come on, having trouble with Open Transport
on your Mac?!?
I personally am looking forward to MacOS X Server. While Apple
has done some lame things in the past, it's not their first
time with UNIX (A/UX), and the NeXT engineers are still with
them working along side.
-- John
--------------------------
> YESSSS!
> You spoke of my heart, my friend.
>
> I think Apple will eff up OS X, too, BTW. I don't know how, but they will
> manage. They didn't get a single OS right since they started building
> PowerMacs. (Can you spell "Extension conflict?" "Open Transport nightmares"
> "Impossible to start up from most SCSI devices"?)
>
> I have being using Macs for ten years, (ressuscited various Macs about 3000
> times) and I'm selling my last one next week. Why? Because I don't trust
> Apple anymore. I spent increasingly more time recovering my Macs from
> various Extension crashes than actually using them for more than a year by
> now. My patience has come to an end. Sorry Apple, whatever you plan to
> offer in the future - I Just Don't Care.
>
> Yes - I bought a NextStation Color Turbo system past night for Net
> browsing. Yes, I will get a SGI soon for daily graphics/programming work.
> And yes, I'll replace Windows95 on my Pentium with Linux, as soon as the CD
> arrives. After a weekend where my two computers crashed a whopping 56 times
> (with the Mac leading the way by far) - time to move on, and take serious
> measures here about getting work done.
>
> George
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From: le@put.com (Louis Epstein)
Subject: Re: "$$$U NEED CASH $$$?READ THIS$$$$!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon,comp.sys.pyramid
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References: <6uqh5p$nt6@news1.emarites.net.ae> <361A6B8B.E0505B96@xiotech.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:32:00 GMT
Chris Hurlbutt-XIOtech (chrish@xiotech.com) wrote:
:
: SGI salesman looking for revenue angle and a fast buck while NT product is in
: development...
Well,as a comp.sys.northstar reader I can't wait to see how they're
going to make NT run on an 8-bit CPU!
From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: **VIRTUOSO--EXTRASCAN--IMAGE--WETPAINT--MORE FOR SALE!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Date: 6 Oct 1998 02:20:52 GMT
Organization: Florida Digital Turnpike
Message-ID: <6vbuq4$emm@obi-wan.fdt.net>
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
"For sale" posts should goto "comp.sys.next.marketplace" not
comp.sys.next.software, and not both.
In <naatona-0510981513040001@pr00-22.proaxis.net> MR. FATTUS wrote:
> WET PAINT...........V 1.2 good paint app, with disks and License, $30.00
OBO
This app can now be downloaded for free from
http://www.peak.org/next/apps/LighthouseDesign/ with a 2-user license
> Lighthaouse Design CD-Rom, With Concurrence, Daigram,Taskmaster, and wet
> Paint demo¹s, $10.00. ,obo, 1 only.
These apps can also be downloaded free, although it might be handy to have
them on a CD as a backup.
> Last release of VIRTUOSO (2.0) (Next Freehand 5.0) which is still as good
> as any design package out.
One minor point: Virtuoso 2.0 was equal to Freehand 4.0: from the README:
Best of all, Virtuoso documents are fully compatible with Freehand 4.0 on
the Macintosh.
That said, it is a great program that I wouldn't mind having access to, I
just wanted to make sure that it was clear as far as compatibility goes.
TjL
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: **VIRTUOSO--EXTRASCAN--IMAGE--WETPAINT--MORE FOR SALE!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Date: 6 Oct 1998 02:23:09 GMT
Organization: Florida Digital Turnpike
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
In addition to my previous post, anyone trying to respond to the author might
want to make sure they use the correct address "natona@proaxis.com" as it was
incorrect in the original post (was "naatona@proaxis.com")
TjL
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: **VIRTUOSO--EXTRASCAN--IMAGE--WETPAINT--MORE FOR SALE!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Date: 6 Oct 1998 02:29:12 GMT
Organization: Florida Digital Turnpike
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
This is a little irratating now.
You have shotgunned this post the NeXT newsgroups:
comp.sys.next.software
comp.sys.next.misc
comp.sys.next.hardware
comp.sys.next.marketplace
when it only belongs in the last one. It was not even crossposted, but
re-posted, some times with your correct address, and sometimes without.
Therefore followups to your post could be missed because they might not go to
all the groups. In this situation it might have led someone to purchase
software they could get for free, or buy software that was possibly not
compatible as advertized.
In the future, please limit yourself to the appropriate newsgroup.
http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html is an helpful
roadmap for those unsure of where they should post.
Here is my original post yet again for those who might not have seen it.
Followups on all my posts have been set to comp.sys.next.marketplace
In <naatona-0510981513040001@pr00-22.proaxis.net> MR. FATTUS wrote:
> WET PAINT...........V 1.2 good paint app, with disks and License, $30.00
OBO
This app can now be downloaded for free from
http://www.peak.org/next/apps/LighthouseDesign/ with a 2-user license
> Lighthaouse Design CD-Rom, With Concurrence, Daigram,Taskmaster, and wet
> Paint demo¹s, $10.00. ,obo, 1 only.
These apps can also be downloaded free, although it might be handy to have
them on a CD as a backup.
> Last release of VIRTUOSO (2.0) (Next Freehand 5.0) which is still as good
> as any design package out.
One minor point: Virtuoso 2.0 was equal to Freehand 4.0: from the README:
Best of all, Virtuoso documents are fully compatible with Freehand 4.0 on
the Macintosh.
That said, it is a great program that I wouldn't mind having access to, I
just wanted to make sure that it was clear as far as compatibility goes.
TjL
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From: "william rice" <rice0067@tc.umn.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: want: Simon Says
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:37:44 -0700
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Campus
Message-ID: <6vc662$p0r$3@news1.tc.umn.edu>
Hi;
I am looking for simon Says or any other voice rec progs for Next
Pleas let me know if you can find them or if you want to sell.
Bill
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.2 Upgrade
Date: 5 Oct 1998 19:18:20 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <6vb61s$7ma$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <6v6ktm$jgr$1@calvin.skidmore.edu> <19981004092652.17712.00010352@ng66.aol.com>
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In <19981004092652.17712.00010352@ng66.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
>
> Normally the response is that one has to purchase a copy from a 3rd party,
> however, I was re-reading an old copy of the NeXT FAQ and it stated that one
> only needed to license major revisions of the OS 1.0 > 2.0 > 3.0, but that the
> in-between numbers were free, consisting of only a media charge from NeXT, and
> that one could copy them from a friend/user's group.
>
> Everyone has been acting as if this is not the case--if so, when was it changed
> and why?
>
> William
>
I think it would be really nice to have a solid answer on this as its my
understanding also. Just about every black machine I've seen has a copy of
3.0 for it somewhere (either on the HD or on a CD lying around). Which
would make one think that everyone should be able to use 3.3 on black.
I suspect that because of the changes in price and upgrade policy for 3.1, 3.2,
and finally 3.3 this may not be true in the 3.x versions. I can't remember if
the 3.3 user CD is bi-FAT or not which would also complicate the isse.
I really wish that OS manufacturers would allow free access to user versions
one full revision below the current selling one. I have heard that most OS
manufacturers really don't care too much about use in this case - but
it's not like I talk to very many CEO's - and their legal departments may
have a significantly different view on such things.
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
spammers works also :)
Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining,
Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.)
From: smooth@aloha.net (George)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 09:44:47 -1000
Organization: Hawaii OnLine - Honolulu, HI
Message-ID: <smooth-ya02408000R0510980944470001@news.aloha.net>
References: <36111F57.2B009A30@ix.netcom.com> <6urrfb$3h0$3@eve.enteract.com> <36122A2D.BF9802D@KVI.NL> <36128C6A.D99A9D3A@home.com> <3612EB30.2A10E8E4@home.com> <36133E17.C6BAEE64@home.com>
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In article <36133E17.C6BAEE64@home.com>, Michael Lankton
<mlankton@home.com> wrote:
> msms wrote:
> >
> > I think people are forgetting that MacOS X Server is essentially
> > Nextstep/Openstep. Why not complain that Apple should release
> > MacOS 7.5 for free, or 8.1 once 8.5 comes out in the next weeks?
> > How about telling Microsoft to release Win95 for free download
> > from FTP?
>
> Because those operating systems suck.
YESSSS!
You spoke of my heart, my friend.
I think Apple will eff up OS X, too, BTW. I don't know how, but they will
manage. They didn't get a single OS right since they started building
PowerMacs. (Can you spell "Extension conflict?" "Open Transport nightmares"
"Impossible to start up from most SCSI devices"?)
I have being using Macs for ten years, (ressuscited various Macs about 3000
times) and I'm selling my last one next week. Why? Because I don't trust
Apple anymore. I spent increasingly more time recovering my Macs from
various Extension crashes than actually using them for more than a year by
now. My patience has come to an end. Sorry Apple, whatever you plan to
offer in the future - I Just Don't Care.
Yes - I bought a NextStation Color Turbo system past night for Net
browsing. Yes, I will get a SGI soon for daily graphics/programming work.
And yes, I'll replace Windows95 on my Pentium with Linux, as soon as the CD
arrives. After a weekend where my two computers crashed a whopping 56 times
(with the Mac leading the way by far) - time to move on, and take serious
measures here about getting work done.
George
From: "qq" <fgfg@rtgr.ggg>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: softwre trest plans adn cases
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:48:01 -0700
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Translate NEXTTOYOU from German to English
Date: 7 Oct 1998 10:41:30 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6vfggq$8d4$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <6vdnds$euf@slip.net>
emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote:
>Has anyone tried translating NEXTTOYOU
>articles written in German to English
>with http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com ?
Babelfish is a joke.
We're still considering an English issue if there is
sufficient demand, but we'd need some volunteers for
the translations.
Best regards, Chris
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WO vs. ASP
Date: 7 Oct 1998 10:35:37 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <6vfg5p$8d4$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <361A7394.49687B8@indiana.no_spam.edu>
Allan Streib <astreib@indiana.no_spam.edu> wrote:
>Could someone please give me impressions/pros/cons of developing Web
>applications with WO compared to Microsoft's Active Server Pages? I
>know the Dell web site used to be WO but now looks like ASP. I have not
>used either but may have the opportunity here to push for one or the
>other. Thanks for any info or references.
WO scales well. Hence, it does not require that you move
application state to the client side when traffic gets
heavy :-)
Also, would you rather program in Java and ObjectiveC
or in some Fortran dialect? And you're looking at only
$99 anyway (at least you post from an edu site), so hey,
what more do you want.
I've not even started to talk about EOF.
Best regards, Chris
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// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: "wong" <y3416@ms11.hinet.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,cruzio.network,cu.cs.systems+software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.internet.software,de.comm.software.crosspoint,de.comm.software.pmail,de.comm.software.ums
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From: "Rex Dieter" <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gcc installation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:59:42 -0500
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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References: <361A1537.5197@matchlogic.com>
John Albers-Mead wrote in message <361A1537.5197@matchlogic.com>...
>I am trying to install gcc on a Color Turbo with USER installed. Do I
>need to get a copy of DEVELOPER to get this to compile correctly or is
>there another way? Any help welcome.
Your suspicion was correct. You need to get a copy of the DEVELOPER CD.
--
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Computer System Manager
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University of Nebraska
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Date: 5 Oct 98 08:20:27 GMT
http://peanuts.leo.org/cgi-bin/peanuts-search.html?postscripthelper
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From: dan@madhatter.physics.ucsb.edu (Dan Murphy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Backspace fat modules
Date: 7 Oct 1998 16:10:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
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Hello,
We've recently added a number of Intel Openstep 4.2 machines to our network of
Black hardware running 3.0. We've had one annoying (though purely esthetic)
problem with Backspace 3.01. Although the application is fat, the old modules
we have are not. I downloaded some new versions of the modules from peak, and
although they appear to be fat, they only run on the Intel machines, not on the
68K ones. Am I missing something obvious?
Thanks.
Dan Murphy
dan@madhatter.physics.ucsb.edu
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From: mrm@lerami.lerctr.org (Ray Mullins)
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Organization: Larry Rosenman's personal UnixWare 2.1.3 system
In article <F0FwLC.80o@news2.new-york.net>, Louis Epstein <le@put.com> wrote:
>Chris Hurlbutt-XIOtech (chrish@xiotech.com) wrote:
>:
>: SGI salesman looking for revenue angle and a fast buck while NT product is in
>: development...
>
>
>Well,as a comp.sys.northstar reader I can't wait to see how they're
>going to make NT run on an 8-bit CPU!
Ringing in from comp.sys.prime, I hadn't heard that NT was going to be ported
over to the 50-series architecture...
Later,
Ray
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From: rivet@volcane.is.a.nephs.track.nu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gcc installation
Date: 7 Oct 1998 16:58:13 GMT
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In <6vfrqj$jt4$1@unlnews.unl.edu> "Rex Dieter" wrote:
would this mean only the headers&libs package?
> John Albers-Mead wrote in message <361A1537.5197@matchlogic.com>...
> >I am trying to install gcc on a Color Turbo with USER installed. Do I
> >need to get a copy of DEVELOPER to get this to compile correctly or is
> >there another way? Any help welcome.
>
>
> Your suspicion was correct. You need to get a copy of the DEVELOPER CD.
>
>
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From: tvz@nospam.nwu.edu (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gcc installation
Date: 7 Oct 1998 16:52:45 GMT
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In <6vfrqj$jt4$1@unlnews.unl.edu> "Rex Dieter" wrote:
[something about gcc]
Rex,
Can you explain how gcc relates to the cc compiler in OpenStep 4.2 Dev?
The man page seems to describe cc as gcc.
I am frustrated with the number of tiimes I have trouble compiling some
source code written, eg.., for Linux. For example, just this morning I was
compiling efax , and got
cc -O -c efaxio.c
efaxos.h:47: undefined type, found `time_t'
Is there some more standard compiler/libraries I should install (such as your
compilation of gcc 2.8) to fix this?
tim van zandt
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From: John Albers-Mead <jam@matchlogic.com>
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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 13:04:44 +0000
I am trying to install gcc on a Color Turbo with USER installed. Do I
need to get a copy of DEVELOPER to get this to compile correctly or is
there another way? Any help welcome.
- JAM
jam@matchlogic.com
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
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Subject: Re: WO vs. ASP
Date: 7 Oct 1998 00:26:31 GMT
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Well, Dell's site was a real mess after the switch, and it doesn't work as well
now, and is limited as to which browsers it works with--WebObjects was a much
better solution it would seem.
Dell openly admitted that they switched not because WO was lacking, but because
they were having a hard time finding Objective-C programmers and the ones which
they could find were _very_ expensive.
The deal M$ is alleged to've cut them on licensing probably weighed the balance
in a manner some might consider unjust.
William
William Adams
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From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Problem with DarkForest.app
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:35:11 +0000
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I had simular thinks on Intel (may be NS3.3); things would stop working
after the first go.
Andrew Chang wrote:
>
> Hi, I use a HP Vectra machine running OPENSTEP 4.2. User files are
> mounted from a Sun server via. NFS. I always have problem with
> the original DarkForest.app.
>
> The problem is: it can size the directory/file. However, it can
> only clean the first directory/file you specify. Then I have to
> go to window manager to clean files manually.
>
> I do not know if this is OPENSTEP problem, or NFS problem.
> Any clue? Thanks.
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From: "Rex Dieter" <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gcc installation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:54:54 -0500
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <6vgk53$6uq$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <361A1537.5197@matchlogic.com> <6vfrqj$jt4$1@unlnews.unl.edu> <6vg68t$8jc@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Timothy Van Zandt wrote in message <6vg68t$8jc@news.acns.nwu.edu>...
>In <6vfrqj$jt4$1@unlnews.unl.edu> "Rex Dieter" wrote:
>Rex,
>Can you explain how gcc relates to the cc compiler in OpenStep 4.2 Dev?
>The man page seems to describe cc as gcc.
>
>I am frustrated with the number of tiimes I have trouble compiling some
>source code written, eg.., for Linux. For example, just this morning I was
>compiling efax , and got
>
>cc -O -c efaxio.c
>efaxos.h:47: undefined type, found `time_t'
>
>Is there some more standard compiler/libraries I should install (such as
your
>compilation of gcc 2.8) to fix this?
gcc is the stanard GNU compiler.
cc (in OS 4.2) is gcc 2.7.2.1 modified by NeXT to support NeXT dynamic
linking and Objective C.
Now, the reason why something compiles on Linux and not on NEXTSTEP is
usually becuase of C library specific issues. Sometimes, particular header
files define function prototypes slightly differently, which causes warnings
and errors.
Just because you're using gcc on both systems doesn't mean it'll compile
exactly the same way. (-;
Most likely, things that compile on one system and not on another, means the
program author wrote their software in a System-specific and/or non-portable
way and/or made certain assumptions that aren't true on all systems.
That said, NeXT's C library is lacking in comparison to other modern UNIX's.
It's missing much (most) POSIX compliance support (basically anything that
looks for a header file named unistd.h). It doesn't support (well) memory
mapped files (mmap and munmap function calls). I could go on and on.
That's the issue in a nutshell. Did that answer your question(s)?
--
Rex Dieter
Computer System Manager
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska Lincoln
From: Allan Streib <astreib@indiana.no_spam.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WO vs. ASP
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 14:46:28 -0500
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
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Could someone please give me impressions/pros/cons of developing Web
applications with WO compared to Microsoft's Active Server Pages? I
know the Dell web site used to be WO but now looks like ASP. I have not
used either but may have the opportunity here to push for one or the
other. Thanks for any info or references.
Allan Streib
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
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The machines I took care of ranged from computer users who
didn't-know-anything-and-didn't-want-to-learn to reasonably
knowledgable users who did much more than work with large
Photoshop files and the like (I worked at University and did
private consulting work).
Any Mac that's crashing more than once a week (other than from
hardware problems) is not properly taken care of. Just because
you may not know what else to do doesn't make it the computer's
fault.
ANY machine can have problems, speaking of memory. My Next
machine and my Rhapsody machine running Omniweb start eating up
hard drive space. One time, it ended up taking over 100MB, and
of course only gets reclaimed when you restart.
Macs can run well when taken care of, and UNIX machines can
run poorly when not taken care of (although not like Windows or
the MacOS). The bottom line ends up being that you have to know
how to take care of the machine.
-- John
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>
> Were any of your users working in Photoshop with 40MB files? Or dealing with 5
> MB of text converted to paths in FreeHand or Illustrator?
>
> I'm running Mac OS 8.1 on a Mac 9500/180MP with nothing but Apple and Adobe
> extensions, and the system crashes, and this with 160MB RAM. I've just turned
> on virtual memory (161MB), and this seems to be helping some, but it'll
> probably crash again, sometime soon.
>
> I have to restart the machine at least once a day to defragment memory--my NeXT
> never requires this.
>
> William
>
> William Adams
> http://members.aol.com/willadams
> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT?
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:50:48 -0500
Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin
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In article <361bdf89.8679903@news.mindspring.com>, smarqz@FULLMOONunm.edu
(Steve M) wrote:
> Here's a url of a netscape page reporting a port to NeXT:
> http://home.netscape.com/communicator/v4.5/faq/index.html#Q. What
> platforms are supported by Netscape
>
> (The above 2 lines should be pasted into your browser.)
>
> Does anybody know more about this?
Seems to be vapour-ware.
The URL cited says:
What platforms are
supported by Netscape
Communicator 4.5?
Netscape Communicator 4.5 will support on the following 12 platforms:
Windows 98
Windows 95
Windows NT 3.51
Windows NT 4.0
Macintosh PPC System 7.6.1 and 8.1
Unix: Sun Solaris 2.5.1 and 2.6
Unix: Solaris x86 2.5.1 and 2.6
Unix: Silicon Graphics IRIX 6.2, 6.3, 6.4, 6.5
Unix: IBM AIX 4.2.1 and 4.3
Unix: HP-UX 10.20 and 11.0
Unix: Caldera OpenLinux 1.1
Unix: DEC Digital 4.0b & d (Navigator Only)
Although not supported by Netscape, Netscape Communicator 4.5 and
Navigator 4.5 are available on the following 21 additional platforms: Open
VMS; Unix: Apple MKLinux 2.1, BDSI 3.0 and 3.1, BlackLinux, Digital 3.2 and
4.0, FreeBSD 2.2, Linux PPC, NCR MP-RAS 3.0, NEC EWS-UX 4.2, NEC 9800,
NeXTStep 3.3, Red Hat AlphaLinux 4.2, SCO Gemini 1.0, SCO OpenServer
5.0.4, SCO Unixware 2.1.2, SINIX 5.42, Sony NEWS, SparcLinux, SunOS
4.1.3, UltraLinux.
But the Netscape ftp site has:
CWD /pub/communicator/4.5/4.5_PR2/english/unix/unsupported
LIST
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:14 bsdi21
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:18 dec_unix32
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:20 dec_unix40
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:23 freebsd
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:26 hpux9
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:29 linux12
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:33 linux20_glibc2
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:35 mklinux
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:37 ncr
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:40 nec
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:42 sco_os
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:44 sco_uw2
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:47 sco_uw7
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:49 sinix
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:51 sinix86
CWD /pub/communicator/4.5/4.5_PR2/english/unix/supported
LIST
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 17:49 aix4
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 17:52 hpux10
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 17:56 irix62
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:00 linux20_libc5
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:04 sunos413
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:06 sunos54
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:09 sunos54_x86
drwxr-xr-x 1 ftp ftp 512 Sep 18 18:11 sunos551
No NeXTStep 3.3 in sight.
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 7 Oct 1998 21:26:11 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
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Were any of your users working in Photoshop with 40MB files? Or dealing with 5
MB of text converted to paths in FreeHand or Illustrator?
I'm running Mac OS 8.1 on a Mac 9500/180MP with nothing but Apple and Adobe
extensions, and the system crashes, and this with 160MB RAM. I've just turned
on virtual memory (161MB), and this seems to be helping some, but it'll
probably crash again, sometime soon.
I have to restart the machine at least once a day to defragment memory--my NeXT
never requires this.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: smarqz@FULLMOONunm.edu (Steve M)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Netscape on NeXT?
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 21:41:09 GMT
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Here's a url of a netscape page reporting a port to NeXT:
http://home.netscape.com/communicator/v4.5/faq/index.html#Q. What
platforms are supported by Netscape
(The above 2 lines should be pasted into your browser.)
Does anybody know more about this?
Thank You,
Steve
From: tvz@nospam.nwu.edu (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gcc installation
Date: 7 Oct 1998 23:01:07 GMT
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In <6vgk53$6uq$1@unlnews.unl.edu> "Rex Dieter" wrote:
>
> Now, the reason why something compiles on Linux and not on NEXTSTEP is
> usually becuase of C library specific issues. [...]
>
> That said, NeXT's C library is lacking in comparison to other modern
UNIX's.
> It's missing much (most) POSIX compliance support (basically anything that
> looks for a header file named unistd.h). It doesn't support (well) memory
> mapped files (mmap and munmap function calls). I could go on and on.
>
> That's the issue in a nutshell. Did that answer your question(s)?
Yes, except what one can do about it.
tim vz
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From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang)
Subject: Problem with DarkForest.app
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:17:37 GMT
Hi, I use a HP Vectra machine running OPENSTEP 4.2. User files are
mounted from a Sun server via. NFS. I always have problem with
the original DarkForest.app.
The problem is: it can size the directory/file. However, it can
only clean the first directory/file you specify. Then I have to
go to window manager to clean files manually.
I do not know if this is OPENSTEP problem, or NFS problem.
Any clue? Thanks.
From: "Dirk P. Fromhein" <Dirk.Fromhein@watershed.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WO vs. ASP
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 10:38:22 -0400
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There is yet another alternative Java Server Pages combined with something
like our Relational Object Framework.
JSP compiles to become a servlet (in our case) and then backs into our
object to relational management system. It is then fully portable across
all platforms and fully thread safe. We have it running on AIX, HP/UX,
Solaris, and WinNT. Given the end result is a servlet it can also be run in
any servlet capable web server.
Good luck,
Dirk Fromhein
http://www.watershed.com
Allan Streib wrote:
> Could someone please give me impressions/pros/cons of developing Web
> applications with WO compared to Microsoft's Active Server Pages? I
> know the Dell web site used to be WO but now looks like ASP. I have not
> used either but may have the opportunity here to push for one or the
> other. Thanks for any info or references.
>
> Allan Streib
> (remove no_spam from email address to reply)
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <361c734b.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 8 Oct 98 08:09:47 GMT
AFAIR I simply recompiled the modules I wanted to be fat and then they worked
fine. (black, white NS3.3)
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Subject: Re: gcc installation
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <361c7532.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 8 Oct 98 08:17:54 GMT
tvz@nospam.nwu.edu (Timothy Van Zandt) wrote:
>In <6vgk53$6uq$1@unlnews.unl.edu> "Rex Dieter" wrote:
>>
>> Now, the reason why something compiles on Linux and not on NEXTSTEP is
>> usually becuase of C library specific issues. [...]
>>
>> That said, NeXT's C library is lacking in comparison to other modern
>UNIX's.
>> It's missing much (most) POSIX compliance support (basically anything that
>> looks for a header file named unistd.h). It doesn't support (well) memory
>> mapped files (mmap and munmap function calls). I could go on and on.
>>
>> That's the issue in a nutshell. Did that answer your question(s)?
>
>Yes, except what one can do about it.
Rex has got some porting-tips (UNIX-NeXT) on his website
http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ (Thanx.). There is a library called noposix
which replaces open, close from a software-house in the Netherlands I believe
. You can use some functions (sigaction, ...) from the libposix.a in /usr/lib
after removing them with Otool.app (just link the foo.o to your application).
And than you can do something like the following in a header-file and pray
;-):
#ifdef NeXT
#include <libc.h> /* helps for open, read, ... */
/* some POSIX-replacements follow */
#define pid_t int /* dirty */
#define mode_t unsigned short /* working? */
#define getcwd(A,B) getwd(A) /* dirty */
#define O_NOCTTY 00020 /* do not acquire a */
#define S_IRUSR 0000400 /* read permission, owner */
#define S_IWUSR 0000200 /* write permission, owner */
#define S_IRGRP 0000040 /* read permission, group */
#define S_IROTH 0000004 /* read permission, other */
#define _S_IFMT 0170000 /* type of file */
#define _S_IFDIR 0040000 /* directory */
#define S_ISDIR(mode) (((mode) & (_S_IFMT)) == (_S_IFDIR))
/* the following may be false */
#define STDIN_FILENO 0
#define STDOUT_FILENO 1
#define STDERR_FILENO 2
#define SA_NOCLDSTOP 04
#endif /* NeXT */
Sven
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@mediaone.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Contact software
Date: 8 Oct 1998 05:41:00 GMT
Organization: UCO & Associates, LLP
Message-ID: <6vhj9c$doc$2@wbnws01.ne.highway1.com>
Hi all:
I'm looking to get contact software like PencilMeIn and StayInTouch for
Windows. Now the reason I'm asking for opinions in a next group on this
topic, is quite bluntly, I think that NeXT user's have better opinions on
this, and I'm interested in getting opinions from people like myself, who are
forced to use windows.
Ideally, I'm looking for a package that does group scheduling, does
phonenumbers/addresses, and is web accessible. I'm interested in hearing any
thoughts as to what the most simple, elegant, and robust group
scheduling/management/contact software is on windows (as I'm not looking
forward to losing PencilMeIn & StayInTouch):.
Thanks for any info. :)
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Music notation software for NeXT?
Date: 8 Oct 1998 14:11:26 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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References: <6vaueh$6lr$3@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <6vaueh$6lr$3@agate.berkeley.edu>
"satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) writes:
> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote:
> >But it requires the "not so free" Adobe Postscript font: Sonata.
>
> True. Musicbuilder.app doesn't require Sonata font and now it's free for
> one user. It's quite unique App worth trying.
Any pointers on where/how to get more information regarding MusicBuilder?
(ie websites, phone numbers?)
--
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Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape
Date: 5 Oct 1998 19:23:24 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
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cejensen@winternet.com (Christian Jensen) wrote:
>You (Charles W. Swiger <chuck@codefab.com>) wrote
>in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 1 Oct 1998 22:27:56 GMT:
>> Not as yet, anyway, but there's some interest in a port.
>
>Do you mean a port to NEXTSTEP? Or do you refer to the Mozilla/Rhapsody
>port. (Sadly, the former might actually wind up having a larger potential
>user base.)
I haven't been following that project, but I _thought_ they were shooting for
an OpenStep implementation, which presumably would work on OPENSTEP 4.x, Mac
OS X Server (nee' Rhapsody) and YellowBox for NT (nee' OPENSTEP/Enterprise).
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away.
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From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 5 Oct 1998 19:20:08 GMT
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mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) wrote:
[ ... ]
>> GNUstep running on your favorite
>> unix will be awesome if they ever finish it.
>
>That's quite a big 'if'... There's much more there than meets the eye
>of the casual hacker, if their intent is still to implement the
>published OPENSTEP specification.
True, true. There's no doubt that the decade of work going into Apple
Enterprise technologies gives a serious advantage in maturity, refinement,
and tuning.
Still, a clean reimplementation does have some advantages, like not
inheriting historical/backward compatibility cruft. And a little bit of
friendly competition might give the gentlefolk at Apple incentive to excel
rather than to merely perform.
-Chuck
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 8 Oct 1998 16:48:58 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
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John, msms <msms@home.com> said:
>Any Mac that's crashing more than once a week (other than from
>hardware problems) is not properly taken care of. Just because
>you may not know what else to do doesn't make it the computer's
>fault.
Ah, well the crashes average out to about once a week. I guess that this is all
that one should expect from the MacOS, and that it's not reasonable to expect
the sort of stability I have on my Cube at home (5 crashes in 2 1/2 years, for
which the cause of each is accounted for (bad SCSI setup, renaming an open
file, etc)
The Mac I use gets vacuumed and cleaned once a week, virus check run regularly,
and as I noted, a bare minimum of extensions, all from theoretically reputable
vendors, in addition to restarting my machine at lunchtime, is there some other
thing I should be doing?
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ICQ clones for NeXT??
Date: 8 Oct 1998 13:51:39 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
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In article <6uutnd$86m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> kb7sqi@pindigital.net writes:
> Hi,
> I recently got a NeXT Turbo Color Station running NS3.3p1.
> I've installed most of the latest versions of software from next-peak
> org. I was curious if anyone has compiled one of the ICQ clones
> for NEXTSTEP?? In particular, micq or preferably zicq. Both are
> simple text based versions of ICQ that run in a shell or terminal
> window. I've tried compiling them w/ no avail. I just got the
> system on Monday. ;-) Anyway, I've compiled both programs on my
> NetBSD and OpenBSD systems. If you can help, I'd appreciate it.
> Thanks.
Hi!
I had been looking for ICQ for UNIX for quite a while, but I did not know
about micq! Thanks for the tip!
I downloaded it today and compiled it without major problems on my
NS3.3/intel system. Here are a few tips on how to proceed:
1) I used the micq980925 distri from http://phantom.iquest.net/micq/
2) I made a few changes to the makefile. Here it is:
# Anyone who knows how to make Makefiles please help out.
# I have no clue but this appears to work fairly well
# be sure to use gmake
CC = cc
CFLAGS = -O2 -Wall -DUNIX -DANSI_COLOR
# Uncomment the below line for humorous messages
CFLAGS += -DFUNNY_MSGS -posix
# uncomment the line below for debuging info
#CFLAGS += -g
CLIBS =
#uncomment the line below if your using Solaris
#CLIBS= -lnsl -lsocket
OBJS =micq.o icq_response.o sendmsg.o util.o ui.o rus_conv.o
HEADERS = datatype.h micq.h ui.h
#
all : micq
re : clean all
micq : ${OBJS} ${HEADERS}
${CC} ${CFLAGS} ${CLIBS} -o micq ${OBJS} -lc
${OBJS} : ${HEADERS}
clean :
rm -f ${OBJS}
3) You need strdup. I made my own libc.a with nifty things that are missing
on a NeXT, e.g., strdup. Here is the strdup source:
char *
strdup(s)
char *s;
{
char *result = (char*)malloc(strlen(s) + 1);
if (result == (char*)0)
return (char*)0;
strcpy(result, s);
return result;
}
That should do it!!!
I am currently trying to compile gtkicq-0.55 to have the CHAT ability, but
currently I am stuck with the GNOME support (which I don't want, to keep
things simple).
Do you have any tips for me??
Perhaps another free ICQ version that allows chatting??
Bye!
Helmut
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From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.chat-programs.icq
Subject: Re: ICQ clones for NeXT??
Date: 8 Oct 1998 16:01:39 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <6vinl3$4gl$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <6vig1b$crp$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
In article <6vig1b$crp$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> heller@lrz.de (Helmut
Heller) writes:
> I am currently trying to compile gtkicq-0.55 to have the CHAT ability, but
> currently I am stuck with the GNOME support (which I don't want, to keep
> things simple).
OK, in the meantime I got it compiled :-)
No sound support, no GNOME, a few hacks, but now it seems to run.
I didn't try it yet, as I don't have a partner, but if you want to try to
chat with me, here is my ICQ number: 20652035
Bye,
Helmut
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From: "satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Music notation software for NeXT?
Date: 8 Oct 1998 20:43:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <6vj85c$64$2@agate.berkeley.edu>
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rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote:
>In article <6vaueh$6lr$3@agate.berkeley.edu>
>Any pointers on where/how to get more information regarding MusicBuilder?
>(ie websites, phone numbers?)
>
>--
>Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (MIME OK)
Hi Rex,
I'll re-post the announcement from Ralf Suckow, the author of
MusicBuilder.app. (Where are you now Ralf?? Are you doing well??? Hope
everything is fine with you!)
--start quote---
Newsgroup comp.sys.next.announce
>From ralf.suckow@snafu.de
MusicBuilder for NEXTSTEP is now freely available under
„ftp://peanuts.leo.org/next/audio/apps/MusicBuilder.1.2.2.NIHS.b.tar.gz
------------------- From the README file ----------------------------------
This software is (c) 1991-1996 copyright Ralf Suckow, Berlin, Germany.
The use of this version under NEXTSTEP is free of charge. MusicBuilder has
not been maintained for two years now, but people keep asking for the
commercial version, although not enough to justify further development.
I don't want to sell unsupported software anymore, so you can freely use
thisprogram for whatever purpose you want, as long as you don't remove this
file.
To save work, I just republished the commercial version. Please note that
the commercial license conditions described in the original
MusicBuilder.README.rtf file do not apply to this version. There is not
support or warranty for this software.
Another reason to publish this software is to see if there is enough
interest to bring out a source version under GPL (probably not).
Please let me know what you think about this idea.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
This software is provided "as is" without warranty of any kind, either
expressed or implied, including but not limited to the implied warranties
of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose.
In no event shall I, Ralf Suckow, be liable for any damages, including
any lost profits, lost savings or other incidental or consequential damages
arising out of the use or inability to use this software, even if I,
Ralf Suckow, have been advised of the possibility of such damages.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is the license string you should use with the free version:
60 61 fa e4 58 26 7e 0c
(don't forget the spaces between the numbers/letters)
Yours,
Ralf.Suckow@snafu.de
---end quote---
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From: "John H. Yates" <yates@sas.upenn.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT Improv -> Excel/Access Consultant
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 11:29:59 -0700
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
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We have a lot of NeXT Improv spreadsheets that need to be converted to
Excel
and Access, whichever is more appropriate. The spreadsheets make
extensive
use of Improv formulas, which need to be preserved or mimicked to
produce
similar but enhanced reports from the data.
We are now considering hiring a consultant to do this. If you are, or
know of
a qualified consultant, esp. in the Philadelphia area, please contact
me.
Thanks, John
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John H. Yates, Ph.D.
Senior Director SAS Computing
University of Pennsylvania
Suite 322A, 3401 Walnut Street
School of Arts and Sciences
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6228
yates@sas.upenn.edu
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From: billlee@my-dejanews.com
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Subject: Reading MS WOrd documents
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 23:59:06 GMT
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On occasion I get copies of Microsoft Word documents sent to me. Is there any
application on the NeXT which will read/translate these documents into
something more useful such as RTF, HTML, ascii,....??
Regards,
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The NT product uses an Intel PII at 450mhz...
Louis Epstein wrote:
> Chris Hurlbutt-XIOtech (chrish@xiotech.com) wrote:
> :
> : SGI salesman looking for revenue angle and a fast buck while NT product is in
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From: billlee@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Reading MS WOrd documents
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 23:59:06 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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On occasion I get copies of Microsoft Word documents sent to me. Is there any
application on the NeXT which will read/translate these documents into
something more useful such as RTF, HTML, ascii,....??
Regards,
Bill Lee
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From: Monty Brandenberg <mcbinc@ne.mediaone.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Music notation software for NeXT?
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 17:59:08 -0400
Organization: MCB, Inc.
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Seems to have been reorg'd a bit. Can now be found in:
http://www.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/audio/apps
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mcbinc@ne.mediaone.net.MAPS.SPAM P.O. Box 426188
mcbinc@world.std.com.MAPS.SPAM Cambridge, MA 02142
617.864.6907
From: rivet@volcane.is.a.nephs.track.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Reading MS WOrd documents
Date: 9 Oct 1998 05:22:58 GMT
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shell apps are around and OpenWrite *might* do some.
In <6vjjkb$aah$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> billlee@my-dejanews.com wrote:
[>]On occasion I get copies of Microsoft Word documents sent to me. Is there
any
[>]application on the NeXT which will read/translate these documents into
[>]something more useful such as RTF, HTML, ascii,....??
[>]
[>]Regards,
[>]
[>]Bill Lee
[>]
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From: colombet@arles.timone.univ-mrs.fr (Bruno Colombet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Reading MS WOrd documents
Date: 9 Oct 1998 08:40:06 GMT
Organization: Universite de la Mediterranee Aix en Provence
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OpenWrite from Lighthouse can read Word Document.
You can donwload one license freely.
Regards.
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From: micken28@hotmail.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OPENSTEP 4.x intel ?
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 10:00:47 GMT
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Where can i get a copy of OPENSTEP 4.x intel .. ?
Apple doesnt have a clue ;-)
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 9 Oct 1998 15:55:11 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <361D7D16.4B380221@home.com>
Message-ID: <19981009115511.02705.00005485@ng82.aol.com>
Let me just make certain that we're on the same wavelength here:
Macs can run better, but crashing once a week is typical?
It's supposed to be convenient and productive to save 10-12MB Illustrator and
Freehand files every couple of minutes and the time lost to a restart is
acceptable?
Moreover, although you feel confident that you could fix this, you see no
reason to trouble to assist me.
In the hope that there is some other Mac user about who is more inclined to be
helpful, or that you will choose to assist me, I am pasting in my extension set
text below.
William
Name Size Version Type Creator
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Extensions
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Type Reunion 51,779 bytes 1.2 INIT ATR
AdobePS 865,560 bytes 8.5.1 PRER rbDG
AppleScriptLib 28,489 bytes 1.2.2 shlb cfmg
AppleScript™ 467,579 bytes 1.1.2 INIT ascr
ColorSync™ 588,624 bytes 2.1.2 INIT sync
PrintMonitor 64,053 bytes 7.1.2 APPL prmt
Shared Library Manager 168,325 bytes 2.0.1 INIT OMGR
Shared Library Manager PPC 211,694 bytes 2.0.1 INIT OMgr
Apple CD-ROM 96,692 bytes 5.4.2 INIT psap
AppleShare 277,026 bytes 3.7.4 RDEV afpt
ATI Graphic Drivers 127,436 bytes 1.0 ndrv ATI©
ATI Graphics Accelerator 68,137 bytes 1.2.9 INIT ATI
Desktop Printer Spooler 44,214 bytes 2.1 appe dtps
Desktop PrintMonitor 113,473 bytes 2.1 APPL prmt
Ethernet (Built-In) 104,266 bytes 2.0.2 ndrv cfrg
Foreign File Access 39,738 bytes 5.2 INIT ufox
Open Tpt AppleTalk Library 541,754 bytes 1.3.1 libr OMGR
Open Tpt Internet Library 485,155 bytes 1.3.1 libr OMGR
Open Transport Library 587,352 bytes 1.3.1 libr OMGR
OpenTptAppleTalkLib 59,455 bytes 1.3.1 shlb otan
OpenTptInternetLib 281,210 bytes 1.3.1 shlb otan
OpenTransportLib 586,133 bytes 1.3.1 shlb otan
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HP DesignJet 755CM GX 90,681 bytes 2.0 pdvr DJ8J
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XMODEM Tool 69,222 bytes 1.1 fbnd ctbf
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Internet Access 349,587 bytes 1.0.3 shlb INTA
SOMobjects™ for Mac OS 134,728 bytes 2.0.8 shlb cfmg
jgdw.ppc 294,190 bytes 1.0 shlb cfrg
Apple Guide 874,758 bytes 2.2 INIT reno
Color SW 1500 827,950 bytes 2.2.1 PRER chle
Color SW 2500 828,210 bytes 2.2.1 PRER auro
Color SW Pro 410,485 bytes 1.5.2 PRER CRKt
Contextual Menu Extension 74,213 bytes 1.0.1 INIT cmnu
File Sharing Extension 194,076 bytes 7.6.2 INIT hhgg
File Sharing Library 94,697 bytes 8.0 shlb cfrg
ImageWriter 46,097 bytes 7.0.1 PRES IWRT
LaserWriter 300/LS 318,147 bytes 1.2 PRER LWL2
Printer Share 80,493 bytes 1.1.3 INIT pbc2
QuickTime™ 1,446,301 bytes 2.5 INIT ånd6
QuickTime™ MPEG Extension 254,264 bytes 1.0 INIT mjh*
QuickTime™ Musical Instruments 477,727 bytes 2.5 INIT dvb
QuickTime™ PowerPlug 905,395 bytes 2.5 INIT ånd8
QuickTime™ Settings 16,199 bytes 2.5 cdev ånd7
QuickTime™ VR 550,400 bytes 2.0.1 INIT qtvr
StyleWriter 1200 808,862 bytes 2.1.1 PRER dblo
°AppleVision 493,622 bytes 1.5.2 INIT avav
Color Picker 498,479 bytes 2.1.1 INIT cpmg
Energy Saver Extension 51,283 bytes 2.0.7 INIT wnke
LaserWriter 8 866,624 bytes 8.5.1 PRER vgrd
Serial (Built-in) 68,488 bytes 1.3.3 libr OMGR
Video Startup 69,743 bytes 1.7.1 INIT mtv2
Microsoft Mail Library 61,053 bytes 1.0 shlb MSM
Microsoft Tool Editor Library 90,362 bytes 1.2 shlb BED
Microsoft Find File Library 341,313 bytes 1.0a shlb MSFF
OpenTpt Modem 85,766 bytes 1.0.1 libr OMGR
OpenTpt Remote Access 541,432 bytes 1.0.1 libr OMGR
OpenTpt Serial Arbitrator 7,638 bytes 1.0.1 libr OMGR
Memory Manager 30,753 bytes 1.2.1 shlb cfmg
StuffIt Engine™ 749,981 bytes 4.5 SITL SITe
StuffIt Engine™ PowerPlug 365,645 bytes 4.5 shlb SITe
PDFWriter 270,019 bytes 1.0 PRER PDFW
PSPrinter 582,195 bytes 8.2.1 PRER rbDG
GXGraphics 2,359,649 bytes 1.1.6 INIT grfx
Apple QD3D HW Driver 14,667 bytes 1.5.3 ndrv QD3D
Apple QD3D HW Plug-In 53,260 bytes 1.5.3 shlb tnsl
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QuickDraw™ 3D IR 244,018 bytes 1.5.3 shlb Q3XT
QuickDraw™ 3D RAVE 268,356 bytes 1.5.3 shlb QD3D
QuickDraw™ 3D Viewer 199,996 bytes 1.5.3 shlb QD3D
SAM Intercept 148,826 bytes 4.5.1 INIT VGrd
Microsoft Dialog Library 189,126 bytes SDM3.02 shlb SDM
Norton CrashGuard Extension 15,715 bytes 3.5.3 INIT CrGd
Apple® Event Manager 39,641 bytes 1.0.3 INIT aevt
Apple Modem Tool 168,159 bytes 1.5.3 cbnd amdt
Claris Organizer Alarms 34,133 bytes - INIT CALM
EvE INIT 1.9 5,731 bytes - INIT E1I9
icccodes 27,944 bytes 1.2.4 shlb ????
kdssys 42,350 bytes 3.2.3 shlb cfrg
KODAK PRECISION CP 11,571 bytes 2.4.1 INIT KEPS
KODAK PRECISION CP1 459,041 bytes 3.45 INIT KEPS
Omnipotent Extension 1,446 bytes - INIT HOR9
pfpick 25,696 bytes 1.3.5 shlb ????
Shared Code Manager 35,613 bytes 1.0.6 INIT SHCM
Control Panels
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Apple Menu Options 54,487 bytes 1.1.3 cdev CDJR
ColorSync™ System Profile 12,738 bytes 2.1 cdev synC
Control Strip 42,856 bytes 1.4.1 cdev sdev
General Controls 58,577 bytes 7.7 cdev misc
Keyboard 46,654 bytes 8.0 APPC kycp
Map 39,990 bytes 7.5.1 cdev wmap
Mouse 27,885 bytes 7.5.4 cdev mous
Numbers 16,035 bytes 7.1 cdev nbrs
Text 14,994 bytes 7.1 cdev tecd
Users & Groups 770,075 bytes 8.0 APPC ugcp
Appearance 241,761 bytes 1.0.1 APPC apcp
AppleTalk 211,555 bytes 1.1 cdev atdv
Date & Time 79,168 bytes 8.0.1 APPC tim2
Memory 38,098 bytes 7.5.9 cdev mmry
Monitors & Sound 173,750 bytes 1.3.3 APPL alav
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Modem 214,500 bytes 1.0.1 cdev modm
PPP 471,707 bytes 1.0.1 cdev rmot
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OpenDoc Setup 44,640 bytes 1.2.1 APPL odst
True Finder Integration™ 104,341 bytes 4.5 cdev TFI
~StuffIt SpaceSaver™ 299,257 bytes 4.5 cdev SMKR
DiskLight 24,383 bytes 3.5.3 cdev PNdl
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System Folder
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MacTCP DNR 3,455 bytes - cdev mtcp
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KODAK PRECISION Startup 58,379 bytes 2.6.1 APPL KEPS
TrueClock?'s launcher 0 bytes - tcGB HOR9
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang)
Subject: Is YellowBox (or part of) OPENSTEP Enterprise?
Message-ID: <F0ItAq.H5x@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:13:38 GMT
Some said OPENSTEP for Winxx is the same thing as the Enterprise.
Is this true? Any diff. as to user vs. developer/server?
What/how many OPENSTEP applications you can run?
From: root@127.0.0.1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: searching for OPENSTEP 4.0 PR 1
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 21:53:22 +0200
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <361D1832.6714A88F@127.0.0.1>
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hi,
i am looking for a copy of OPENSTEP 4.0 PR 1
in that release NeXT made some bigger changes to the user interface,
which where removed again in the final version
(see http://www.peak.org/next/graphics/outdated/ns40.gif for a
screenshot)
i want to evaluate that, and make a comparison.
i can run m86k, intel and sparc...
greetings, martin.
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From: "Greg Anderson" <greg@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is YellowBox (or part of) OPENSTEP Enterprise?
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:32:51 -0400
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <6vj7id$20o@shelob.afs.com>
References: <F0ItAq.H5x@midway.uchicago.edu>
Andrew Chang wrote in message ...
>
>Some said OPENSTEP for Winxx is the same thing as the Enterprise.
>Is this true? Any diff. as to user vs. developer/server?
Yes. There is a "deployment" package and a "development" package. The only
difference is the inclusion of developer tools in the latter.
>What/how many OPENSTEP applications you can run?
Whatever has been recompiled by the authors. You can only make Windows
executables by using the OS/Enterprise tools (although the same source code
generally compiles on both Mach and Windows), and the source code must be
native OPENSTEP. So the availability of specific applications depends on the
author's interest and motivation.
Greg
Message-ID: <361E4468.7429EF2E@yrrid.com>
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 13:14:16 -0400
From: Shambhunath Borah <borah@yrrid.com>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mailing list software for OPENSTEP?
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Hi,
We'd like to run a discussion- (NOT mass-)mailing list related to one of
our products, that we'd also like to archive to the web. I wonder if
anyone knows of a package that runs on OPENSTEP. The only thing I found
on the ftp sites was the procmail mail-filtering package. There's
apparently a set of complementary scripts for it called SmartList. Is
this a possible solution? Are there better options? Do the ListServ and
ListProc packages run on OPENSTEP?
Thanks,
Shambhu Borah
From: tom@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (Tom Hageman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem with DarkForest.app
Date: 9 Oct 1998 01:04:33 GMT
Organization: Warty Wolfs
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Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk> wrote:
> I had simular thinks on Intel (may be NS3.3); things would stop working
> after the first go.
>
> Andrew Chang wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I use a HP Vectra machine running OPENSTEP 4.2. User files are
> > mounted from a Sun server via. NFS. I always have problem with
> > the original DarkForest.app.
> >
> > The problem is: it can size the directory/file. However, it can
> > only clean the first directory/file you specify. Then I have to
> > go to window manager to clean files manually.
> >
> > I do not know if this is OPENSTEP problem, or NFS problem.
> > Any clue? Thanks.
Try turning off the "Violence" option (the claw) in DarkForests preferences.
Somehow, on Intel, the clean button fails to respond after the violence has
kicked in. Makes a perverse sort of sense I guess... }->
Hopes this helps,
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From: rivet@volcane.is.a.nephs.track.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 9 Oct 1998 05:25:54 GMT
Organization: .crackheads.with.real.computers.but.no.real.jobs.
Message-ID: <6vk6p2$h17$2@eve.enteract.com>
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he asked you how to smartass. he helps ppl all the time, the least you could
do is the same, once.
[>]I personally wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Although if it
[>]were my machine, I'd fix it :)
[>]
[>]-- John
--
-3 PCs, 2 NeXTs, 1 Falcon030. all play and no work makes rivet poor-
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 9 Oct 1998 23:41:25 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6vlct6$4nf$1@decius.ultra.net>
Message-ID: <19981009194125.17715.00014739@ng66.aol.com>
I'm running Freehand 7.0.2 and 8.0.1, Illustrator 6 and 7.0.1, Photoshop 5.0
(is there an update to this yet?) and the desk accessories, notepad, scrapbook,
calculator, and as you noted, Suitcase.
I don't see another alternative to the latter if I'm to be able to efficiently
dynamically load and unload fonts so as to have a manageable font
menu/application/system load time.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
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NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 20:02:00 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
Mac's can run a lot better, but I don't see how crashing more than
once a week is really all that inconvienent. If you lose files you
were working on, sure, but you should be saving constantly anyway.
You may not want it to crash, but it only distracts a few minutes
out of the day, very insignificant. If it were a server, that'd
be a different story.
UNIX machines are more stable, and they probably always will be. My
Next machine has crashed once for me, and it wasn't even really a
serious crash, just a kernel panic and I was easily able to just
restart and have it be on it's merry way.
I personally wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Although if it
were my machine, I'd fix it :)
-- John
---------------------
> Ah, well the crashes average out to about once a week. I guess that this is all
> that one should expect from the MacOS, and that it's not reasonable to expect
> the sort of stability I have on my Cube at home (5 crashes in 2 1/2 years, for
> which the cause of each is accounted for (bad SCSI setup, renaming an open
> file, etc)
>
> The Mac I use gets vacuumed and cleaned once a week, virus check run regularly,
> and as I noted, a bare minimum of extensions, all from theoretically reputable
> vendors, in addition to restarting my machine at lunchtime, is there some other
> thing I should be doing?
>
> William
>
> William Adams
> http://members.aol.com/willadams
> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: colombet@arles.timone.univ-mrs.fr (Bruno Colombet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.chat-programs.icq
Subject: Re: ICQ clones for NeXT??
Date: 9 Oct 1998 08:35:00 GMT
Organization: Universite de la Mediterranee Aix en Provence
Message-ID: <6vkhrk$6ci$2@news.univ-aix.fr>
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I've tried to compile micq on my Next 3.3 Intel.
Here are erros I get :
/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:120: undefined type, found `u_char'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:121: undefined type, found `u_short'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:122: undefined type, found `u_long'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:191: undefined type, found `u_short'
Any ideas ?
--
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Laboratoire de Neuropsychologie et Neurophysiologie
+33 (0)4 91 32 46 13 (direct)
+33 (0)4 91 32 43 69 (secr. + répondeur)
colombet@arles.timone.univ-mrs.fr
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Reading MS WOrd documents
Date: 9 Oct 1998 08:47:28 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <6vkij0$b6k$2@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <6vjjkb$aah$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Oct 1998 08:47:28 GMT
billlee@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>On occasion I get copies of Microsoft Word documents sent to me. Is there
any
>application on the NeXT which will read/translate these documents into
>something more useful such as RTF, HTML, ascii,....??
>
>Regards,
>
>Bill Lee
for word8 documents have a look at
http://www.gnu.org/~caolan/docs/MSWordView.html
daniel
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mailing list software for OPENSTEP?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Oct 1998 15:32:12 GMT
Organization: Florida Digital Turnpike
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
In <361E4468.7429EF2E@yrrid.com> Shambhunath Borah wrote:
> We'd like to run a discussion- (NOT mass-)mailing list related to one of
> our products, that we'd also like to archive to the web. I wonder if
> anyone knows of a package that runs on OPENSTEP. The only thing I found
> on the ftp sites was the procmail mail-filtering package. There's
> apparently a set of complementary scripts for it called SmartList. Is
> this a possible solution? Are there better options? Do the ListServ and
> ListProc packages run on OPENSTEP?
I have used majordomo and found it to be very easy to setup and maintain,
especially if you can login and directly edit the configuration files.
http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/
It does require perl, but there is a perl pkg for OpenStep.
The reason there is no majordomo compiled for NeXTStep/OpenStep is that there
are some values which get hard-coded into the binary (such as the UID/GID
that majordomo will run as) which are largely non-portable (for example, on
my single user machine, any daemon that runs gets a 500-level UID/GID -- why?
Because that's how I did it.... but you might have many many users and that
UID/GID might already be taken. And that's just one of a handful of examples)
Make sure you use -posix flag for CC (it will compile without it, but it was
better in my experience to turn it off anyway) and change TMPDIR in the
Makefile to NOT use /tmp
Read through the Makefile and change a few obvious things (where Majordomo's
$HOME will be, turn off anything POSIX related, etc). Pretty simple really.
There's a majordomo-users mailing list (it will automatically sign you up if
you answer "yes" after your successful compile) which is very helpful.
SmartList is not really being supported, since procmail is not really being
supported (the developer just sort of disappeared off the 'net).
Majordomo is being supported, and I found the MD-users list to be very
helpful.
TjL
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From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 10 Oct 1998 17:46:25 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft, Inc.
Message-ID: <6vo6hh$cnb$1@uuneo.neosoft.com>
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In <6vmius$nkh$1@decius.ultra.net> Josh Brandt wrote:
>
> Hrm. Okay, I've had a couple of days of experience on my newly-acquired
mono
> slab. I have to say that I very much prefer the Finder to OpenStep's
> file-fiddler (what's it called, anyway? I got mine with no docs. 8). It
> seems much more transparent and makes more sense to me. While it's
possible
> that I could be missing some subtleties of the NeXT's interface, I
shouldn't
> have to dig that much in order to do things like copy files from one
folder
> to another.
Hi, I'm kinda in the opposite boat. I've owned a NeXT for 7+ years
and a Mac for about 6 months anticpating Rhapsody. I can't figure
out how to do simple things in Finder so I'll try asking you. How
do you "move" a file on the Mac. Yes, I can copy a file by dragging
it to another folder or disk but it leaves the original copy behind and
I end up with many copies when all I want to do is move it do a different
location. I'm sure there is a way but I can't find it.
Just so you know, on the NeXT if you want to force a behaviour on the
"drag a file graphically" you can influence the action by pressing a key
when you drop it on the destination folder or disk. Command-Drag will
copy and Alternate-drag will move.
Please share info on Mac's behavior and I'll be glad to answer any NeXT
questions.
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
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Date: 11 Oct 1998 03:47:16 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <17552908078421@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
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From: Sebastien Mallet <mallet@nortel.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any suggestions for a mail client on NS3.2 ?
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 17:18:48 +0200
Organization: Nortel
Message-ID: <361E2958.B82006FA@nortel.ca>
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Hi all,
The title says all.
Im running it on a Turbo color and the server is POP for incoming mail,
SMTP for outgoing.
Thanks in advance for any input.
Sebastien Mallet
amllet@nortel.ca
From: "Andre Lalonde" <info@scribex.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.981010232642.195E-100000@inky>
Subject: Re: Converting WriteNow to HTML
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Message-ID: <MfcU1.49$iN.177@wagner.videotron.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:41:29 -0400
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http://www.scribex.com/English/LatinByrd/IntroLatinByrd.html
Check out LatinByrd v6. It will do what you want, and more...
Andr=E9
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
>
>Hello.
>
>I couldn't find the answer in the archives...
>
>Does anyone know of a tool to convert WriteNow files to HTML? Or to
>convert RTF files to HTML? Or to convert to some interim format, then =
to
>HTML? I would like to be able to preserve footnotes.
>
>I have some papers in WriteNow that need to go on the Web.
>
>Many thanks in advance for any help.
>
>Ken Worthy
>
>
de
* NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Solaris, Linux, BeOS, PDF & PostScript Wizard
* Note: [frank@this.net] is still a valid option to send me eMail
* "The answer is vi, what was your question...?"
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 9 Oct 1998 23:45:35 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <6vlct6$4nf$1@decius.ultra.net>
Message-ID: <19981009194535.17715.00014740@ng66.aol.com>
First, let me thank Josh for his thoughtful post, however...
Josh said (regarding the MacOS)
>weaknesses are being addressed, however, and each release of the MacOS
>has been notably better than the one before
Mac OS 8.1 is still not anywhere near as useful, elegant or consistent as
OpenStep.
If Apple had simply ported OpenStep to the PowerPC, bought ARDI and used their
re-written Mac Toolbox routines to create an instantaneous BlueBox, I believe
that everyone would've been better off (save for Adobe and Microsoft).
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Benjamin Romer" <benjamin.romer@unisys.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Compatibility between OS4 and MacOSX Server
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:33:28 -0400
Organization: ECDC Unisys Corp. Tredyffrin
Message-ID: <6vrpr9$boi$1@trsvr.tr.unisys.com>
Hi,
Simple question: Will an app compiled on OS4 Intel run on OSX Server? What
about the other way around?
I've got OS4.1, and am considering switching from non-OPENSTEP development
on NT to development on OS4, but I'd like to know if any of the software
I'll produce will still be functional.
Thanks in advance,
Ben
From: "Kirk" <kirk95@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <361bdf89.8679903@news.mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT?
Message-ID: <LLvT1.307$BT3.288@news3.ispnews.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 18:04:27 EDT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:03:38 -0400
has anbody found a version of Netscape for the next. I can't find anything
on the site?
Steve M wrote in message <361bdf89.8679903@news.mindspring.com>...
>Here's a url of a netscape page reporting a port to NeXT:
>http://home.netscape.com/communicator/v4.5/faq/index.html#Q. What
>platforms are supported by Netscape
>
>(The above 2 lines should be pasted into your browser.)
>
>Does anybody know more about this?
>
>Thank You,
>Steve
>
From: mute@sidehack.sat.gweep.net (Josh Brandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 9 Oct 1998 16:16:38 GMT
Organization: GweepNet, the GweepCo Cooperative Network - Worcester, MA
Message-ID: <6vlct6$4nf$1@decius.ultra.net>
References: <361D7D16.4B380221@home.com> <19981009115511.02705.00005485@ng82.aol.com>
In article <19981009115511.02705.00005485@ng82.aol.com>,
WillAdams <willadams@aol.com> wrote:
>Macs can run better, but crashing once a week is typical?
Uh, no it's not, if you're not using apps known to be buggy. (I expect
Unreal to crash when I shoot someone in the head, but that's been fixed and
there's a patch on the way. I expect games to be kind of flaky, since they
tend not to be as well-tested. But if you've got a reasonable amount of
memory and are using well-known and tested apps, you shouldn't have problems
like that.)
>Suitcase Extension 237,539 bytes 3.0.1 INIT ScEx
Do you still need this if you're not using System 6.0.whatever?
Sorry about the zealots, by the way. I love my Macs, and I would rather use
them for almost anything I'm doing, but I admit they do have weaknesses.
Those weaknesses are being addressed, however, and each release of the MacOS
has been notably better than the one before (not simply loaded with weird
"features" of some kind or other). The people who try to shove Macs in
people's faces, though, rather than simply demonstrating their superiority
by _demonstrating_ the Mac really bug me.
Josh
--
...said it was heaven just to breathe your air Severed Heads
J. Brandt - mute@sidehack.gweep.net
Message-ID: <361ED542.7B16692D@home.com>
From: msms <msms@home.com>
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Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
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OPENSTEP/NEXTSTEP was obviously well ahead of it's time for a
consumer OS, and still is. The features it has as a core OS make
it powerful and stable. The interface is more advanced and has
more powerful features as well.
However, Apple needed a new MacOS. If you can remember two years
ago (or maybe not so long ago) criticism of the MacOS as a
behind-the-times OS was incredibly intense. Dropping Copland
didn't reassure Mac users and PC critics that any replacement
was coming soon. Apple needed an already existing OS to make
as the new MacOS, rather than to start on the third (or more)
dropped journey to a new OS.
Apple needed to make OPENSTEP look like the MacOS, or else Mac
users wouldn't buy into it. Mac users were already weary of
Rhapsody when it was first announced, even though it was going
to look like and work like the MacOS, for the most part.
They should have gone with Be. I like the BeOS, I'm a registered
developer and supporter, but it's not exactly taking off. It's
a powerful and fast OS with great potential, and a potential
competitor to Apple in the graphics field. It seemed Apple didn't
like whatever deal Be proposed. I would have liked to see OPENSTEP
move forward at the hands of NeXT, but then again, the technology
will see more computer users at the hands of Apple.
BTW, ARDI's executor is far from a full featured MacOS emulator.
Apple already has the source to the MacOS toolbox, so they could
do a much better job porting. Rumor has it that Apple already
had/has a beta MacOS version from years ago that ran on Intel
hardware.
-- John
-------------------
> Mac OS 8.1 is still not anywhere near as useful, elegant or consistent as
> OpenStep.
>
> If Apple had simply ported OpenStep to the PowerPC, bought ARDI and used their
> re-written Mac Toolbox routines to create an instantaneous BlueBox, I believe
> that everyone would've been better off (save for Adobe and Microsoft).
>
> William
>
> William Adams
> http://members.aol.com/willadams
> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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Help, what's that?
>
> he asked you how to smartass. he helps ppl all the time, the least you could
> do is the same, once.
>
> [>]I personally wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Although if it
> [>]were my machine, I'd fix it :)
> [>]
> [>]-- John
>
> --
> -3 PCs, 2 NeXTs, 1 Falcon030. all play and no work makes rivet poor-
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Mac's crashing once a week is typical, but not necessarily how
they can run. It's only typical because they're commonly not
taken care of.
The point in my last posting was that I can't imagine crashing
more than once a week is even close to a problem. The 5 minutes
lost to a restart is more than acceptable, considering the average
work week is app. 2400 minutes of time (40 hours). That's less
than 0.3% downtime. Anyone complaining about that is out of
control. I may be out of control, but that's fine with me.
The extensions that look suspicious to me are the Desktop
Printing stuff, the Farallon driver, the Adobe Type Reunion
and the ATM control panel (which I presume you may need).
You may want to take out Users and Groups since you disabled
File Sharing. I recommend taking out the Control Strip unless
you can't live without it. You can put back in your Quicktime
and Quickdraw extensions and any shared libraries (file type
shlb).
That's all I can recommend without checking out your computer
in person. Sorry, I don't think Macintosh troubleshooting is
very effective over the phone or email - it usually just ends
up being a guessing game. If you want to post more information,
like when does it crash, what error do you get, does it crash
or freeze, etc..., feel free to. Extensions aren't the only
cause of problems.
-- John
------------------
>
> Let me just make certain that we're on the same wavelength here:
>
> Macs can run better, but crashing once a week is typical?
>
> It's supposed to be convenient and productive to save 10-12MB Illustrator and
> Freehand files every couple of minutes and the time lost to a restart is
> acceptable?
>
> Moreover, although you feel confident that you could fix this, you see no
> reason to trouble to assist me.
>
> In the hope that there is some other Mac user about who is more inclined to be
> helpful, or that you will choose to assist me, I am pasting in my extension set
> text below.
>
> William
>
> Name Size Version Type Creator
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Extensions
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Type Reunion 51,779 bytes 1.2 INIT ATR
> AdobePS 865,560 bytes 8.5.1 PRER rbDG
> AppleScriptLib 28,489 bytes 1.2.2 shlb cfmg
> AppleScript™ 467,579 bytes 1.1.2 INIT ascr
> ColorSync™ 588,624 bytes 2.1.2 INIT sync
> PrintMonitor 64,053 bytes 7.1.2 APPL prmt
> Shared Library Manager 168,325 bytes 2.0.1 INIT OMGR
> Shared Library Manager PPC 211,694 bytes 2.0.1 INIT OMgr
> Apple CD-ROM 96,692 bytes 5.4.2 INIT psap
> AppleShare 277,026 bytes 3.7.4 RDEV afpt
> ATI Graphic Drivers 127,436 bytes 1.0 ndrv ATI©
> ATI Graphics Accelerator 68,137 bytes 1.2.9 INIT ATI
> Desktop Printer Spooler 44,214 bytes 2.1 appe dtps
> Desktop PrintMonitor 113,473 bytes 2.1 APPL prmt
> Ethernet (Built-In) 104,266 bytes 2.0.2 ndrv cfrg
> Foreign File Access 39,738 bytes 5.2 INIT ufox
> Open Tpt AppleTalk Library 541,754 bytes 1.3.1 libr OMGR
> Open Tpt Internet Library 485,155 bytes 1.3.1 libr OMGR
> Open Transport Library 587,352 bytes 1.3.1 libr OMGR
> OpenTptAppleTalkLib 59,455 bytes 1.3.1 shlb otan
> OpenTptInternetLib 281,210 bytes 1.3.1 shlb otan
> OpenTransportLib 586,133 bytes 1.3.1 shlb otan
> UDF Volume Access 256,782 bytes 1.0 INIT 55DF
> Suitcase Extension 237,539 bytes 3.0.1 INIT ScEx
> Farallon FastENPlus 54,180 bytes 1.0 ndrv raja
> OEMCLib 108,994 bytes 8.5.1 shlb rbDG
> PrintingLib 752,015 bytes 8.5.1 shlb rbDG
>
> Extensions (Disabled)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Visual Basic for Applications 1,402,796 bytes 1.0.1 shlb VBA
> HP DesignJet 755CM GX 90,681 bytes 2.0 pdvr DJ8J
> Microsoft OLE Automation 537,822 bytes 2.06 shlb Ole2
> Microsoft OLE Extension 949,609 bytes 2.06 INIT Ole2
> Microsoft OLE Library 964,784 bytes 2.06 shlb OLE2
> HP LaserJet 755,856 bytes 8.3.1 PRER oBha
> Apple Remote Access Client 95,404 bytes 2.1 LTMC nets
> Link Tool Manager 87,524 bytes 2.1 aini ltmr
> Modem LinkTool Personal 46,810 bytes 2.1 ldev slnk
> Remote Only 3,770 bytes 2.1 adev ntk2
> Serial Port Arbitrator 5,957 bytes 2.1 LTMC gsrp
> VT102 Tool 162,872 bytes 1.0.2 tbnd ctbt
> XMODEM Tool 69,222 bytes 1.1 fbnd ctbf
> Speech Manager 30,345 bytes 1.4 INIT ttsc
> Internet Access 349,587 bytes 1.0.3 shlb INTA
> SOMobjects™ for Mac OS 134,728 bytes 2.0.8 shlb cfmg
> jgdw.ppc 294,190 bytes 1.0 shlb cfrg
> Apple Guide 874,758 bytes 2.2 INIT reno
> Color SW 1500 827,950 bytes 2.2.1 PRER chle
> Color SW 2500 828,210 bytes 2.2.1 PRER auro
> Color SW Pro 410,485 bytes 1.5.2 PRER CRKt
> Contextual Menu Extension 74,213 bytes 1.0.1 INIT cmnu
> File Sharing Extension 194,076 bytes 7.6.2 INIT hhgg
> File Sharing Library 94,697 bytes 8.0 shlb cfrg
> ImageWriter 46,097 bytes 7.0.1 PRES IWRT
> LaserWriter 300/LS 318,147 bytes 1.2 PRER LWL2
> Printer Share 80,493 bytes 1.1.3 INIT pbc2
> QuickTime™ 1,446,301 bytes 2.5 INIT ånd6
> QuickTime™ MPEG Extension 254,264 bytes 1.0 INIT mjh*
> QuickTime™ Musical Instruments 477,727 bytes 2.5 INIT dvb
> QuickTime™ PowerPlug 905,395 bytes 2.5 INIT ånd8
> QuickTime™ Settings 16,199 bytes 2.5 cdev ånd7
> QuickTime™ VR 550,400 bytes 2.0.1 INIT qtvr
> StyleWriter 1200 808,862 bytes 2.1.1 PRER dblo
> °AppleVision 493,622 bytes 1.5.2 INIT avav
> Color Picker 498,479 bytes 2.1.1 INIT cpmg
> Energy Saver Extension 51,283 bytes 2.0.7 INIT wnke
> LaserWriter 8 866,624 bytes 8.5.1 PRER vgrd
> Serial (Built-in) 68,488 bytes 1.3.3 libr OMGR
> Video Startup 69,743 bytes 1.7.1 INIT mtv2
> Microsoft Mail Library 61,053 bytes 1.0 shlb MSM
> Microsoft Tool Editor Library 90,362 bytes 1.2 shlb BED
> Microsoft Find File Library 341,313 bytes 1.0a shlb MSFF
> OpenTpt Modem 85,766 bytes 1.0.1 libr OMGR
> OpenTpt Remote Access 541,432 bytes 1.0.1 libr OMGR
> OpenTpt Serial Arbitrator 7,638 bytes 1.0.1 libr OMGR
> Memory Manager 30,753 bytes 1.2.1 shlb cfmg
> StuffIt Engine™ 749,981 bytes 4.5 SITL SITe
> StuffIt Engine™ PowerPlug 365,645 bytes 4.5 shlb SITe
> PDFWriter 270,019 bytes 1.0 PRER PDFW
> PSPrinter 582,195 bytes 8.2.1 PRER rbDG
> GXGraphics 2,359,649 bytes 1.1.6 INIT grfx
> Apple QD3D HW Driver 14,667 bytes 1.5.3 ndrv QD3D
> Apple QD3D HW Plug-In 53,260 bytes 1.5.3 shlb tnsl
> QuickDraw™ 3D 1,489,723 bytes 1.5.3 INIT QD3D
> QuickDraw™ 3D IR 244,018 bytes 1.5.3 shlb Q3XT
> QuickDraw™ 3D RAVE 268,356 bytes 1.5.3 shlb QD3D
> QuickDraw™ 3D Viewer 199,996 bytes 1.5.3 shlb QD3D
> SAM Intercept 148,826 bytes 4.5.1 INIT VGrd
> Microsoft Dialog Library 189,126 bytes SDM3.02 shlb SDM
> Norton CrashGuard Extension 15,715 bytes 3.5.3 INIT CrGd
> Apple® Event Manager 39,641 bytes 1.0.3 INIT aevt
> Apple Modem Tool 168,159 bytes 1.5.3 cbnd amdt
> Claris Organizer Alarms 34,133 bytes - INIT CALM
> EvE INIT 1.9 5,731 bytes - INIT E1I9
> icccodes 27,944 bytes 1.2.4 shlb ????
> kdssys 42,350 bytes 3.2.3 shlb cfrg
> KODAK PRECISION CP 11,571 bytes 2.4.1 INIT KEPS
> KODAK PRECISION CP1 459,041 bytes 3.45 INIT KEPS
> Omnipotent Extension 1,446 bytes - INIT HOR9
> pfpick 25,696 bytes 1.3.5 shlb ????
> Shared Code Manager 35,613 bytes 1.0.6 INIT SHCM
>
> Control Panels
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ~ATM™ 1,358,556 bytes 4.0.2 cdev ATMC
> Apple Menu Options 54,487 bytes 1.1.3 cdev CDJR
> ColorSync™ System Profile 12,738 bytes 2.1 cdev synC
> Control Strip 42,856 bytes 1.4.1 cdev sdev
> General Controls 58,577 bytes 7.7 cdev misc
> Keyboard 46,654 bytes 8.0 APPC kycp
> Map 39,990 bytes 7.5.1 cdev wmap
> Mouse 27,885 bytes 7.5.4 cdev mous
> Numbers 16,035 bytes 7.1 cdev nbrs
> Text 14,994 bytes 7.1 cdev tecd
> Users & Groups 770,075 bytes 8.0 APPC ugcp
> Appearance 241,761 bytes 1.0.1 APPC apcp
> AppleTalk 211,555 bytes 1.1 cdev atdv
> Date & Time 79,168 bytes 8.0.1 APPC tim2
> Memory 38,098 bytes 7.5.9 cdev mmry
> Monitors & Sound 173,750 bytes 1.3.3 APPL alav
> Startup Disk 9,085 bytes 7.6.2 cdev sdsk
> TCP/IP 297,774 bytes 1.3.1 cdev ztcp
>
> Control Panels (Disabled)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Location Manager 378,454 bytes 2.0 APPC walk
> DialAssist 31,986 bytes 2.1 cdev dlsu
> Remote Access Setup 43,795 bytes 2.1 cdev rasu
> ApplWindows 40,427 bytes v2.0.2 cdev ApWi
> Speech 105,350 bytes 1.5 cdev earc
> File Sharing 643,875 bytes 8.0 APPC shcp
> Mac OS Easy Open 141,046 bytes 1.1.3 cdev meo
> AutoRemounter 15,379 bytes 1.3 cdev Remt
> Desktop Pictures 848,403 bytes 1.0.1 APPC dkpx
> Energy Saver 193,075 bytes 2.0.7 APPC wnkl
> PC Exchange 362,828 bytes 2.2 cdev dosa
> MacLinkPlus Setup 47,140 bytes 9.0.2 cdev DVCP
> Microsoft Office Manager 91,569 bytes 4.2.1b cdev MOMM
> Modem 214,500 bytes 1.0.1 cdev modm
> PPP 471,707 bytes 1.0.1 cdev rmot
> Editor Setup 17,485 bytes 1.2.1 eric odtm
> OpenDoc Setup 44,640 bytes 1.2.1 APPL odst
> True Finder Integration™ 104,341 bytes 4.5 cdev TFI
> ~StuffIt SpaceSaver™ 299,257 bytes 4.5 cdev SMKR
> DiskLight 24,383 bytes 3.5.3 cdev PNdl
> FileSaver 194,220 bytes 3.5.3 cdev PNfs
> Adobe Gamma 259,352 bytes 3.0 APPL adgm
>
> System Folder
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> MacTCP DNR 3,455 bytes - cdev mtcp
>
> Startup Items (Disabled)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Tilery 549 bytes 3.2.1 adrp ßßtt
> KODAK PRECISION Startup 58,379 bytes 2.6.1 APPL KEPS
> TrueClock?'s launcher 0 bytes - tcGB HOR9
From: mute@sidehack.sat.gweep.net (Josh Brandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 10 Oct 1998 03:06:04 GMT
Organization: GweepNet, the GweepCo Cooperative Network - Worcester, MA
Message-ID: <6vmius$nkh$1@decius.ultra.net>
References: <6vlct6$4nf$1@decius.ultra.net> <19981009194535.17715.00014740@ng66.aol.com>
In article <19981009194535.17715.00014740@ng66.aol.com>,
WillAdams <willadams@aol.com> wrote:
>Mac OS 8.1 is still not anywhere near as useful, elegant or consistent as
>OpenStep.
Hrm. Okay, I've had a couple of days of experience on my newly-acquired mono
slab. I have to say that I very much prefer the Finder to OpenStep's
file-fiddler (what's it called, anyway? I got mine with no docs. 8). It
seems much more transparent and makes more sense to me. While it's possible
that I could be missing some subtleties of the NeXT's interface, I shouldn't
have to dig that much in order to do things like copy files from one folder
to another.
I agree that the OS itself is more useful and consistent, though, but there
are some pieces that are different enough that I just don't get it yet. The
NeXT is going to be the living-room machine, though, so I expect I'll be
getting used to it soon. I still like it much much more than the Win95
Explorer, though, which has some real bastardly "features" that always catch
me.
>If Apple had simply ported OpenStep to the PowerPC, bought ARDI and used their
>re-written Mac Toolbox routines to create an instantaneous BlueBox, I believe
>that everyone would've been better off (save for Adobe and Microsoft).
Perhaps... The BlueBox would have to be transparent, though, which is what I
understand is taking up most of the time they're using to finish OS X.
Josh
--
...said it was heaven just to breathe your air Severed Heads
J. Brandt - mute@sidehack.gweep.net
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Chris Hurlbutt-XIOtech (chrish@xiotech.com) wrote:
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
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Subject: Re: mailing list software for OPENSTEP?
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
Oh and for making a web archive, try:
http://www.eit.com/software/hypermail/hypermail.html
free & simple to use. For G*d's sake don't make it overly easy for web-bots
to get email addresses off your archive (I usually will make the page
password protected and put the password in the panel that appears, that way
humans can get to it very easily but bots will stop)
TjL
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compatibility between OS4 and MacOSX Server
Date: 12 Oct 1998 15:57:23 GMT
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There's been mention at a couple of sites (Blackhole, and I think Omni's) that
it's possible to run OS 4.x binaries (presumably Intel) on RDR by simply
copying over (possibly patching the binaries to use?) certain files (presumably
shlibs?).
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
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From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: 12 Oct 1998 15:54:54 GMT
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Keywords: openwrite,converters,ms word
Hello, is there a converter for openwrite that I can use to convert those
blasted ms word docs I keep getting in my mail. I need something to get
these "standard" documents over to something I can work with like RTF or
wordperfect (old next version), or some older version of ms word. Any
help is appreciated. A script or command line app is ok with me too.
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From: "Greg Anderson" <greg@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:31:16 -0400
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Alan A. Barhorst wrote in message <6vt8oe$3jb@ttacs7.ttu.edu>...
>Hello, is there a converter for openwrite that I can use to convert those
>blasted ms word docs I keep getting in my mail. I need something to get
>these "standard" documents over to something I can work with like RTF or
>wordperfect (old next version), or some older version of ms word. Any
>help is appreciated. A script or command line app is ok with me too.
Nope. AFS is in the same boat with WriteUp, because the company that
provided these document translators dropped out of the NeXT market before
their Office 97 modules were available. I have been attempting to convince
that company to reenter the MacOS X [Server] market, or at least allow AFS
to do so with their code. But this is another good example where Apple's
actions (or lack thereof) are serving to inhibit progress on YB application
development. Until they start talking seriously about the product and
establish price and shipping dates, most vendors are not going to commit
resources. Under these conditions, the "failure" of MacOS X Server could
become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Greg
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Subject: FYI: mp3 encoder available
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There is source code for an mp3 encoder which compiles under
NS/OS with only slight modifications to the Makefile at the
following URL:
ftp://wopr.campus.luth.se/pub/mpeg_layer_3/encoder1.01.tgz
It will convert files from .wav format into .mp3 format, and
seems to work just fine under NextStep/OpenStep. NeXT sound
files in .snd format can be converted to .wav format first using
sox with the "-r 44100 -s -w" options and then fed to the mp3
encoder. Of course, the enterprising person could modify the
source to accept .snd files directly.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 10 Oct 1998 18:19:40 GMT
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mute@sidehack.sat.gweep.net (Josh Brandt) said:
>...OpenStep's file-fiddler (what's it called, anyway?
It's called the Workspace Manager.
Which view options do you have enabled? The default is icon view, which is
awkward. Viewing as a browser is much more useful (a lot of mac users seem to
agree with this given the popularity of Greg's Browser, a Mac shareware
near-clone (but nowhere near as useful)).
As another poster noted, there are command keys to alter the results of file
dragging.
One inobvious, but very elegant shortcut is to <Alternate> drag from the
miniaturize button of an open (saved) document window, this allows one to copy
said file to a desired point in the file system.
Drag and drop works the other way as well, for example, dragging in a TIFF from
Workspace into an open document.
William
William Adams
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From: mute@sidehack.sat.gweep.net (Josh Brandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FS: Real NeXTSTEP 3.3 and Openstep 4.2 and other stuff.
Date: 10 Oct 1998 19:26:08 GMT
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In article <6vo6hh$cnb$1@uuneo.neosoft.com>,
Robert B. Love <rlove@antispam.neosoft.com> wrote:
>out how to do simple things in Finder so I'll try asking you. How
>do you "move" a file on the Mac. Yes, I can copy a file by dragging
>it to another folder or disk but it leaves the original copy behind and
>I end up with many copies when all I want to do is move it do a different
>location. I'm sure there is a way but I can't find it.
If you're dragging it from folder to folder on the same disk, it'll just move.
If you're dragging it from a folder on one volume to a folder on a different
volume, it'll copy. As far as I know, there's no way to autodelete the
original-- I think that's intentional, although holding down option while
dragging might help...
Thanks for the NeXT pointers...
Josh
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Subject: Re: Compatibility between OS4 and MacOSX Server
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In <19981012115723.27249.00000069@ng81.aol.com> WillAdams wrote:
>
> There's been mention at a couple of sites (Blackhole, and I think Omni's) that
> it's possible to run OS 4.x binaries (presumably Intel) on RDR by simply
> copying over (possibly patching the binaries to use?) certain files (presumably
> shlibs?).
>
From my experience of doing this on black (some 3.0 stuff running on 3.3, etc.)
First point is that with RDR this will only work on intel (libs, etc. must be binary
compatible with machine architecture - this may be a no brainer for some - but
a near a complete mystery to others). In this case it means your completely
limited to x86 binaries.
I don't think this is what the origional poster was asking though. It was more of
a source compatibility issue. If you really want to know talk to Omni or Stone
and find out how they are managing 4.2 vs. RDR compatibility. I'd kind
of like to know this also - whether they are propigating two different - but near
identical code bases - or one code base and using various tools to port code
forward or more likely back.
BTW: I have also heard that it is possible to run 3.3 intel apps on RDR. I havn't
tried but if it's possible I'll be quite happy. I suspect when CR1 releases someone
will put together a set of web pages describing this.
Randy
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From: ix@dillinger.io.com (IX Corp.)
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Subject: Mixing Software; SoundWorks & Metaresearch
Date: 12 Oct 1998 07:00:40 GMT
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I'm wondering if anyone has any information on how to register SoundWorks
with Metaresearch (if they still exist). If they're defunct, does anyone
have any information as to how to register the full version found in the
Peanuts archive?
It seems a very nice program; I'd like to be able to save some of the
sounds I make.
-Lupo
"They are instructed in excellence in three things from age 5 to 20; to
ride, to draw the bow and to speak the truth." -Herodotus <ix@io.com>
From: cpr@frontline-softwar.dk (Claus Priisholm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WO vs. ASP
Date: 13 Oct 1998 07:32:35 GMT
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In article <361A7394.49687B8@indiana.no_spam.edu> Allan Streib
<astreib@indiana.no_spam.edu> writes:
> Could someone please give me impressions/pros/cons of developing Web
> applications with WO compared to Microsoft's Active Server Pages? I
> know the Dell web site used to be WO but now looks like ASP. I have not
> used either but may have the opportunity here to push for one or the
> other. Thanks for any info or references.
>
> Allan Streib
> (remove no_spam from email address to reply)
Politics! Any technical excuses, are just that... Rumors has it that the
last WO app was shut down on the day Jobs presented Michael Dell as bulls
eye (though the process started long before that).
Having an idea of what manpower was used to design and create the WO site
compared to the manpower needed to rewrite in ASP, really makes WO
shine...
Claus Priisholm
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From: Marc-Antoine Parent <maparent@crim.ca>
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Subject: Any OODBMS for MacOS X?
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Hello, everyone...
I was going to suggest a promising start-up company to bet its future on
Rhapsody (oopse! I meant Mac OS X server...), because they can profit in
various ways from the Yellow Box setup. And I backed off. Why? It seems
that an OS that touts itself as a premier object-oriented OS option is
still without a proper OODBMS, let alone serious plans for one... I
could not believe it!
Okay, I will qualify this: Poet used to have a Mac version, AND a
NextStep version, but they don't show intention of moving towards
Rhapsody. NeoLogic still has a MacOS-based system, and even announced a
BeOS port, but did not pipe about MacOS X Server and is generally
shifting its strategy towards COM. CAI mentioned planning a Rhapsody
version of their Jasmine engine, in July 97, but the information is
scarce and far between, and it is hard to be convinced that true
commitment is there. Finally, neither Jasmine nor any of the other
companies mentioned (except POET) is part of the ODMG consortium, and,
with all due respects to those companies who are making an effort
towards the rhapsody world, that bothers me. None of the other big ODMG
players (ODI, Gemstone, Ardent...) seem to be even noticing MacOS X, and
I view this as a BAD sign...
I will have to advise a platform that ObjectStore or some other OODBMS
player supports... =
Unless I missed something/someone? Or there are plans I have not read
about? Please tell me!
Marc-Antoine Parent
Advisor
Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montr=E9al
Opinions my own only.
From: "william rice" <rice0067@tc.umn.edu>
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Subject: Re: IT EXISTS!! Re: Openstep on Solaris
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:07:48 -0700
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References: <3602C4F1.C6AB1898@home.com> <6tv31d$eja@slip.net> <6tviej$l86$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <6u4sa5$8e5@slip.net> <6u4u7r$bse$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <6vos91$mkn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Too bad it won't work on your ultra.. it was never written for that late of
a hardware revision... the latest model that i have heard of was an early
sparc 20...
but... you never really know..
Bill
From: pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Any OODBMS for MacOS X?
Date: 11 Oct 1998 21:05:37 GMT
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Marc-Antoine Parent <maparent@crim.ca> wrote:
>It seems
>that an OS that touts itself as a premier object-oriented OS option is
>still without a proper OODBMS, let alone serious plans for one... I
>could not believe it!
There is EOF with which the concrete DBMS doesn't matter - one always uses
the same object-oriented api. ->
http://enterprise.apple.com/openstep/whitepapers/eof/eof.html
Then there might be a true ODBMS someday which should integrate nicely with
the OS. -> http://www.obdev.at/Products/ODBMS.html
You really should take a closer look at EOF.
Christian
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Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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"Greg Anderson" <greg@afs.com> wrote:
> Put simply, the gnawing sense that Apple is proceeding half-heartedly with
> Mac OS X presents one of the biggest obstacles to its adoption. Given
> Apple's past, it almost guarantees that developers will keep their distance
> for now. And we all know what happens to operating systems without software.
I sure hope someone at Apple is listening, despite all evidence to the
contrary...
Stefano Pagiola
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From: Lars Immisch <lars@ibp.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Contact software
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:52:28 +0200
Organization: ~
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Hi John,
> I'm looking to get contact software like PencilMeIn and StayInTouch for
> Windows. Now the reason I'm asking for opinions in a next group on this
> topic, is quite bluntly, I think that NeXT user's have better opinions on
> this, and I'm interested in getting opinions from people like myself, who are
> forced to use windows.
Well, since you asked for Windows tips here, I'll take the liberty to
give an answer that is even less appropriate:
I am using a Newton for addresses and schedules. I do not currently need
to synchronize it with any groupware thing, but I am told that usable
third party products exist for the usual M$ tools (is it Outlook?)
[The Newton is discontinued of course, but I'll use it alongside my old
NeXTStation until I find something more elegant and usable (I expect to
wait for lemon soaked paper napkins).]
Cheers,
Lars Immisch
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From: Marc-Antoine Parent <maparent@crim.ca>
Organization: Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montreal (CRIM)
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Subject: Re: Any OODBMS for MacOS X?
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:44:21 GMT
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First, thank you LOTS for the reference to ObjectiveD. It is not fully
ODBMS-feature-packed, but it at least seems to be a genuine ODBMS. =
Somebody else told me EOF would give me a lot of ODBMS-like
functionality, and asked me what would be lacking.
I quote here what I answered him:
---
Simply put, OQL (The OO equivalent of SQL) is MUCH richer than SQL
applied to RDBMS-bound objects. It does allow for queries based on the
class model of the objects, not only on the relational model. Maybe I'm
underestimating the EOF capabilities; I don't know them that well. I
guess that is part of my question to the group. But it is a patch by
design, even if a good one. If you're interested in more on OQL, there
is some info at www.odmg.org; but you pretty much have to buy the ODMG
book to get the OQL syntax. I had read the drafts that used to be
available there, and I was MUCH impressed. There are remnants: The BNF
definition of OQL might give you some clues. =
http://www.odmg.org/download/standard/OQL_BNF.txt
---
Now, I did notice ObjectiveD does not support OQL either; but I get the
impression from my quick peek that the query capabilities are richer
than what SQL would allow easily. I will definitely look into it.
Thank you again for the reference.
Marc-Antoine Parent
Advisor
Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montr=E9al
Christian Pekeler wrote:
> =
> There is EOF with which the concrete DBMS doesn't matter - one always u=
ses
> the same object-oriented api. ->
> http://enterprise.apple.com/openstep/whitepapers/eof/eof.html
> =
> Then there might be a true ODBMS someday which should integrate nicely =
with
> the OS. -> http://www.obdev.at/Products/ODBMS.html
> =
> You really should take a closer look at EOF.
> =
> Christian
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Subject: Re: IT EXISTS!! Re: Openstep on Solaris
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3621c313.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 12 Oct 98 08:51:31 GMT
AFAI understand it is Openstep 1.0 /1.1 for Solaris which runs fine on
everything fsater than a Sparc 5 (e.g. on our Ultra 1 140Mhz)
Openstep 4.2 only ruins on the Sparc 4 to 20.
Sven
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compatibility between OS4 and MacOSX Server
Date: 13 Oct 1998 16:36:27 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
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In article <19981012115723.27249.00000069@ng81.aol.com>,
WillAdams <willadams@aol.com> wrote:
>
>There's been mention at a couple of sites (Blackhole, and I think Omni's) that
>it's possible to run OS 4.x binaries (presumably Intel) on RDR by simply
>copying over (possibly patching the binaries to use?) certain files (presumably
>shlibs?).
>
It "sort of" works if you copy /usr/shlib and /usr/lib/NextStep.
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IT EXISTS!! Re: Openstep on Solaris
Date: 12 Oct 1998 13:45:02 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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In article <6vqs3s$25b$3@news1.tc.umn.edu> "william rice"
<rice0067@tc.umn.edu> writes:
> Too bad it won't work on your ultra.. it was never written for that late
> of a hardware revision... the latest model that i have heard of was an
> early sparc 20... but... you never really know..
I don't think your assertion about the Ultra is true, because we have (ok,
had) Openstep for Solaris running fine on the Ultra here. (-;
Hmm... maybe I'm confusing the Ultrasparc with a Hypersparc. ?? Clearly,
I'm not a sun expert, but I did want it known that it ran on more than just
up to sparc 20's.
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From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb: 'open' a URL from command line?
Date: 13 Oct 1998 19:16:06 GMT
Organization: the secret circle of the NSRC
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Michael Friendly wrote:
> I know the open command can be used to tell OmniWeb to open a local
> file, but is there a way to send a message to OmniWeb to open a
> document given by an http:// URL from the command line (actually,
> from a script), e.g.., as done through Services?
Just type OmniWeb.app/Resources/openURL <your URL>
and witness the magic. :-)
Holger
From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help! WP (for NeXT) Mail Merge for Dummies?
Date: 13 Oct 1998 23:36:46 GMT
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Ok, I've read the online help, and followed it as closely as I could, and I
still can't get this to work.
I've been trying to figure out "mail merge" in WP for NeXT and haven't had
any luck... well, no good luck at least.
I have a very simple set of names in this format
Mr and Mrs John and Judy Jones
10 Main St
Anywhere, FL
32601
John and Judy
and I would like to be able to merge them into a basic document with their
name & address at the top and "Dear John and Judy". Simple, eh?
Well I can't figure out what codes go where, and whenever I try to merge
something, I end up with hundreds of useless pages.
Can anyone help? Examples of Primary and Secondary files would be especially
appreciated!
Thanks!
TjL
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From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compatibility between OS4 and MacOSX Server
Date: 12 Oct 1998 22:55:53 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
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spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com wrote:
> I don't think this is what the origional poster was asking though. It was more of
> a source compatibility issue. If you really want to know talk to Omni or Stone
> and find out how they are managing 4.2 vs. RDR compatibility. I'd kind
> of like to know this also - whether they are propigating two different - but near
> identical code bases - or one code base and using various tools to port code
> forward or more likely back.
In general, for the apps that we support on both OpenStep and Rhapsody,
we have a few #ifdefs, we don't modify our nibs under Rhapsody (except
for the main Macintosh nib), and we largely avoid the Rhapsody
enhancements such as NSOutlineView, NSDocument architecture, threadsafe
AppKit, etc. (Of course, these limitations will disappear for us as we
move over to MacOS X Server more completely, and our newer apps don't
have these restrictions at all.)
A current exception is OmniPDF, which we recently branched. It now uses
the NSDocument architecture, though I don't know if it has any other
Rhapsody-specific changes.
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From: kcobra@tca.net
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Subject: Adding a telnet loggin message?
Date: 14 Oct 1998 04:04:56 GMT
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I was wondering how one would add a message that is displayed
any time someone telnets into an OS42 machine? Would like
the message to be displayed before the loggin prompt. Thanks.
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From: "Greg Anderson" <greg@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:29:09 -0400
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
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spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com wrote:
>In <6vtasv$lca@shelob.afs.com> "Greg Anderson" wrote:
>> [the absence of Word 97 translators] is another good example where
Apple's
>> actions (or lack thereof) are serving to inhibit progress on YB
application
>> development. Until they start talking seriously about the product and
>> establish price and shipping dates, most vendors are not going to commit
>> resources. Under these conditions, the "failure" of MacOS X Server could
>> become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>
>I would have thought you'd be more upbeat Greg.
I'm not sure how stating the facts as they exist is an "upbeat" or
"downbeat" commentary. The facts are that:
Mac OS X Server is late (relative to all previous statements about the
timeframe for its likely availability), without public explanation. A
definitive release date has not been publicly announced.
Pricing and marketing plans are unavailable, even under non-disclosure.
Apple is not doing much (anything?) to promote MacOS X Server in advance
of its shipment date. Left as an exercise for the reader: Compare and
contrast to the buzz developed for 8.5 over the past few months.
The cumulative effect is that I, as a "convinced" developer of applications
for Mac OS X Server, have difficulty convincing others -- like the vendor of
the Word document translators -- to take the whole thing seriously. And
let's face it: Without Word compatibility, any word processor faces an
uphill battle for the hearts and minds of early Mac OS X adopters.
Put simply, the gnawing sense that Apple is proceeding half-heartedly with
Mac OS X presents one of the biggest obstacles to its adoption. Given
Apple's past, it almost guarantees that developers will keep their distance
for now. And we all know what happens to operating systems without software.
Greg
From: "Greg Anderson" <greg@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compatibility between OS4 and MacOSX Server
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:33:16 -0400
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
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spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com wrote:
>I don't think this is what the origional poster was asking though. It was
more of
>a source compatibility issue. If you really want to know talk to Omni or
Stone
>and find out how they are managing 4.2 vs. RDR compatibility. I'd kind
>of like to know this also - whether they are propigating two different -
but near
>identical code bases - or one code base and using various tools to port
code
>forward or more likely back.
Speaking just for WriteUp and PasteUp, the same source compiles in both
environments (4.2 and RDR). My only #ifdefs are for modules that don't yet
exist in RDR, like a third-party spelling checker.
Greg
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Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: 12 Oct 1998 19:43:48 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
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In <6vtasv$lca@shelob.afs.com> "Greg Anderson" wrote:
> Alan A. Barhorst wrote in message <6vt8oe$3jb@ttacs7.ttu.edu>...
> >Hello, is there a converter for openwrite that I can use to convert those
> >blasted ms word docs I keep getting in my mail. I need something to get
> >these "standard" documents over to something I can work with like RTF or
> >wordperfect (old next version), or some older version of ms word. Any
> >help is appreciated. A script or command line app is ok with me too.
>
> Nope. AFS is in the same boat with WriteUp, because the company that
> provided these document translators dropped out of the NeXT market before
> their Office 97 modules were available. I have been attempting to convince
> that company to reenter the MacOS X [Server] market, or at least allow AFS
> to do so with their code. But this is another good example where Apple's
> actions (or lack thereof) are serving to inhibit progress on YB application
> development. Until they start talking seriously about the product and
> establish price and shipping dates, most vendors are not going to commit
> resources. Under these conditions, the "failure" of MacOS X Server could
> become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>
I would have thought you'd be more upbeat Greg. But I've always appreciated
your down to earth realistic 'in the trenches' comments. BTW: Word compatibility
is something I see everyone bantering about. It was the first and only reason I
ever installed 95 on a partition on one of my PC's. Now I hardly ever boot anything
else on that box :( - though I will say Openstep still commands my desktop and
probably will into the forseeable future. Fortunately I don't have to deal with
Word at the moment.
Randy
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From: Matt Evans <bmajik@loathe.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IT EXISTS!! Re: Openstep on Solaris
Date: 12 Oct 1998 13:00:18 -0500
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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Rex,
The hypersparc is one of ROSS's implementations of the sun4m
architecture, which was used on the SS4/5/10/20/LX/CLASSIC and then again
on several of the 4/6xx machines. The Ultra machines all are based around
the Ultrasparc processor, which is the sun4u architecture and quite a bit
different than the sun4m's. I don't see anything about Openstep for solaris
that would have worked on sun4ms but not sun4u's. If you guys had gotten it
working on an ultra, that wouldn't surprise me at all. My understanding is
that Openstep was just a set of APIs that sat on solaris. Perhaps if they
included a real NeXT windowserver, that would be tied to a framebuffer, but
the underlying CPU implementation should be largely irrelevant.
rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) writes:
> I don't think your assertion about the Ultra is true, because we have (ok,
> had) Openstep for Solaris running fine on the Ultra here. (-;
>
> Hmm... maybe I'm confusing the Ultrasparc with a Hypersparc. ?? Clearly,
> I'm not a sun expert, but I did want it known that it ran on more than just
> up to sparc 20's.
>
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compatibility between OS4 and MacOSX Server
Date: 12 Oct 1998 13:42:06 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <6vt0ve$hso$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
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In article <6vrpr9$boi$1@trsvr.tr.unisys.com> "Benjamin Romer"
<benjamin.romer@unisys.com> writes:
> Simple question: Will an app compiled on OS4 Intel run on OSX Server?
> What about the other way around?
They are not binary compatible.
In theory, OSX server is source backward compatible to OS4 (for the most
part), so all it would take is a recompile to get a working OSX app.
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adding a telnet loggin message?
Date: 14 Oct 1998 06:04:14 GMT
Organization: would be nice
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In <7017t8$csq$1@supernews.com> kcobra@tca.net wrote:
> I was wondering how one would add a message that is displayed
> any time someone telnets into an OS42 machine? Would like
> the message to be displayed before the loggin prompt. Thanks.
edit the 'default' entry in /etc/gettytab
TjL
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From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WO vs. ASP
Date: 13 Oct 1998 23:15:45 GMT
Organization: MiscKit Development
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cpr@frontline-softwar.dk (Claus Priisholm) wrote:
> Having an idea of what manpower was used to design and create the WO site
> compared to the manpower needed to rewrite in ASP, really makes WO
> shine...
I've heard something like 15 X more programmer hours for ASP than for WOF.
By that metric, even if an OPENSTEP Programming God(TM) costs four times as
much as a MS Worshipping Slob(TM), they are _totally_ worth it! Of course, I
don't know how reliable the info I have actually is, and 15 X seems like it
might be a bit high to me. I'm pretty convinced that WOF is more cost
effective, long-term, than ASP--and by an appreciable margin.
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ICQ clones for NeXT??
Date: 13 Oct 1998 21:03:53 GMT
Organization: would be nice
Distribution: world
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In <6vvom7$mlm$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Helmut Heller wrote:
> I have micq working.
> To overcome this, use the -posix flag!
> Should I NeXTmail the executable to you?
How about putting it on peanuts or peak?
TjL
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From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adding a telnet loggin message?
Date: 14 Oct 1998 08:25:47 -0400
Organization: Quick and Associates
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In article <7017t8$csq$1@supernews.com>, <kcobra@tca.net> wrote:
>I was wondering how one would add a message that is displayed
>any time someone telnets into an OS42 machine? Would like
>the message to be displayed before the loggin prompt. Thanks.
Here are the components of the login sequence.
Getty runs first to set things up and get the user name.
/etc/gettytab controls this process. The default section's
im and lm strings contain the initial message and the login
prompt message.
Login is then called to get the password. I don't believe the
'password: ' prompt is cutomizable.
After login, /etc/motd will be displayed unless .hushlogin
exists.
In your case, modifying the im string should do the trick.
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From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ICQ clones for NeXT??
Date: 13 Oct 1998 14:39:03 GMT
Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
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In article <6vkhrk$6ci$2@news.univ-aix.fr> colombet@arles.timone.univ-mrs.fr
(Bruno Colombet) writes:
> I've tried to compile micq on my Next 3.3 Intel.
> Here are erros I get :
> /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:120: undefined type, found `u_char'
> /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:121: undefined type, found
`u_short'
> /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:122: undefined type, found `u_long'
> /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:191: undefined type, found
`u_short'
>
> Any ideas ?
> --
> Bruno Colombet - Universit de la M diterran e
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> colombet@arles.timone.univ-mrs.fr
I have micq working.
To overcome this, use the -posix flag!
Should I NeXTmail the executable to you?
Helmut
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A realistic way to create C programs for black NeXT
Date: 14 Oct 1998 15:46:37 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
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In article <700u1u$b4n$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
<fergmill@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>Is the
>dev version the only way to go or is there another road? Thanks.
>
It's the only way to go.
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From: fergmill@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: A realistic way to create C programs for black NeXT
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 01:16:47 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <700u1u$b4n$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
I'm getting a Cube with NS 3.3 User on it. I understand that the "user"
designation means that I can't develop full-fledged apps on it. However,
since this is really a toy for me (I plan to "port" the Lego Mindstorms
software to it. Don't you think a NeXT running the Lego robot system would be
too cool?) I can't justify buying NS 3.3 Dev unless it would be cheap. Is the
dev version the only way to go or is there another road? Thanks.
Scott Fergusson
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From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb: 'open' a URL from command line?
Date: 13 Oct 1998 16:13:13 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <6vvu6p$4g6$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
I know the open command can be used to tell OmniWeb to open a local
file, but is there a way to send a message to OmniWeb to open a
document given by an http:// URL from the command line (actually,
from a script), e.g.., as done through Services?
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From: kcobra@tca.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adding a telnet loggin message?
Date: 14 Oct 1998 15:07:24 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Message-ID: <702enc$asc$1@supernews.com>
References: <701esu$rl7@obi-wan.fdt.net>
Originator: kcobra@232-cdm-230
In article <701esu$rl7@obi-wan.fdt.net> luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL) writes:
>
>In <7017t8$csq$1@supernews.com> kcobra@tca.net wrote:
>> I was wondering how one would add a message that is displayed
>> any time someone telnets into an OS42 machine? Would like
>> the message to be displayed before the loggin prompt. Thanks.
>
>edit the 'default' entry in /etc/gettytab
>
>ps -- when starting a new thread, you should go for "New" rather than
>"Followup", as it confuses news readers which can actually deal with threads
>
Yep, sorry about that. I just got trn to work on my slab and
the way it starts new threads is a little different from the
version I am used to at school. Thanks for the tip though.
Also, to the first poster, thanks for the tip, I'll try it
tonight.
--
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(kcobra@tca.net) and (http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~kcobra/)
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From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compatibility between OS4 and MacOSX Server
Date: 14 Oct 1998 06:23:19 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <701g0n$nkq$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
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In <6vtp2l$m5s@shelob.afs.com> "Greg Anderson" wrote:
> spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com wrote:
> >I don't think this is what the origional poster was asking though. It was
> more of
> >a source compatibility issue. If you really want to know talk to Omni or
> Stone
> >and find out how they are managing 4.2 vs. RDR compatibility. I'd kind
> >of like to know this also - whether they are propigating two different -
> but near
> >identical code bases - or one code base and using various tools to port
> code
> >forward or more likely back.
>
> Speaking just for WriteUp and PasteUp, the same source compiles in both
> environments (4.2 and RDR). My only #ifdefs are for modules that don't yet
> exist in RDR, like a third-party spelling checker.
>
Greg,
I'm very sorry I forgot about AFS :( - thanks to you and Andrew for your
comments. This says good things about portability of Openstep 4.2 code
to RDR. I hope things start to look up for all of you soon. BTW: Since I dropped
my Apple developer contract I don't hear too much from Apple any more.
Can either of you comment or speculate about what is going on with Enterprise/YB
for Windows (9x/NT). I really think for developers a simultaneous release
of YB for Win with MacOS X Server will be very important to get YB some
3rd party YB exposure - and more importantly exposure on Win/NT for your
companies and products. I am very concerned that Apple will drop the
ball on this and delay YB for Windows till after MacOS X Server & 8.5 ship.
If you can't comment publically I'm also under NDA and would even
like to hear a private word which would stay under my hat of course. I think
any public comments would be appreciated by all. I know I really look forward
to demoing your products on 9x/NT for potential customers. :)
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
spammers works also :)
Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining,
Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.)
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: 14 Oct 1998 06:41:23 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <701h2j$nkq$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
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In <6vtoqu$m5n@shelob.afs.com> "Greg Anderson" wrote:
> spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com wrote:
> >In <6vtasv$lca@shelob.afs.com> "Greg Anderson" wrote:
> >> [the absence of Word 97 translators] is another good example where
> Apple's
> >> actions (or lack thereof) are serving to inhibit progress on YB
> application
> >> development. Until they start talking seriously about the product and
> >> establish price and shipping dates, most vendors are not going to commit
> >> resources. Under these conditions, the "failure" of MacOS X Server could
> >> become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
> >
> >I would have thought you'd be more upbeat Greg.
>
> I'm not sure how stating the facts as they exist is an "upbeat" or
> "downbeat" commentary. The facts are that:
I guess what I was saying was that I was hoping you'd have a reason
to be more upbeat. Clearly this is not the case. You always have
been the most vocal on the bitching side - I just hoped you have
a reason to smile once.
> Mac OS X Server is late (relative to all previous statements about the
> timeframe for its likely availability), without public explanation. A
> definitive release date has not been publicly announced.
Damn straight. Remember my posts advocating Apple just port Openstep
4.2 and the rest of the Openstep products to PPC w/o modification.
Gee at least that might have given you guys a bit larger market and
given some indication of how much interest there would have been
in Openstep - Rhap - MacOS X. I agree. We are now coming up on
2 years since Apple bought NeXT. What do we have to show for it?
Developers - nothing but a lot of red ink IMHO.
> Pricing and marketing plans are unavailable, even under non-disclosure.
Crazy. I mean they if they have your apps on the Application CD you'd
think they'd have the courtesy to clue you in on tentative pricing.
> Apple is not doing much (anything?) to promote MacOS X Server in advance
> of its shipment date. Left as an exercise for the reader: Compare and
> contrast to the buzz developed for 8.5 over the past few months.
AFAIK - Nothing. Another stealth manuver. Frankly I don't understand
why they seem to want to kill MacOS X since my thought was they desperately
needed a new OS. Carbon - please. It pisses me off to think that Apple
will not bring you YB developers in a little closer - though I can see why
they might keep AFS at arms length (You have been pretty vocal in the past -
not that that's bad - I know you've had good reason for many things - and do
again today I have to agree)
> The cumulative effect is that I, as a "convinced" developer of applications
> for Mac OS X Server, have difficulty convincing others -- like the vendor of
> the Word document translators -- to take the whole thing seriously. And
> let's face it: Without Word compatibility, any word processor faces an
> uphill battle for the hearts and minds of early Mac OS X adopters.
Difficutly - shit I've already battled this battle and lost. Linux is a easier
sell than Mac OS X or Apple 'anything' to my clients. Damn straight about
Word compatibility - if you don't have it people probably won't use it.
> Put simply, the gnawing sense that Apple is proceeding half-heartedly with
> Mac OS X presents one of the biggest obstacles to its adoption. Given
> Apple's past, it almost guarantees that developers will keep their distance
> for now. And we all know what happens to operating systems without software.
This is the main reason why I pretty much said the hell with em. If they don't
believe enough in their own products then there is no reason I should try
to sell/support them. In fact given the current state of the industry I'm currently
pursuing other endeavors until something more interesting shakes loose.
Were I independantly wealthy I'd be supporting a team of GNUstep folks.
I truely hope things get better - but it seems Mr. Jobs will effectively continue
his stealth mode of marketing for YB technology. It's as if he's ashamed of
it or something.
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
spammers works also :)
Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining,
Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.)
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Contact software
Date: 14 Oct 1998 23:45:07 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <362330EC.583F@ibp.de>
Message-ID: <19981014194507.04396.00000899@ng67.aol.com>
Re: the Newton and other contact options for the NeXT.
Chronographer.app <www.chronographer.com> is an OpenStep application, so I
believe you can get it running on a Windows box, if you shell out for
OS/Enterprise.
As regards synching a Newton, there are two solutions for this:
NewtL (a freeware link program, text mode, but I think there's a TcL client for
it).
and Newton.app (limited, in functionality last I checked....) a graphical,
native NeXT app. <www.ace.net>
In order to link a Newton, the best thing to use is 2 Mac (or NeXT?) modem
cables and a null-modem adapter/laplink/interlink cable to connect the twain.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: socks for NS 3.3
Date: 14 Oct 1998 17:14:06 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <703eoe$bov@slip.net>
Hi,
Has anyone compiled socks for NS 3.3 ?
...
When I attempt on an Intel running NS 3.3
the static libraries compile cleanly but
some macros defined in sys_bsd.c fail to
get #defined :
1 /Users/wawa/socks5-v1.0r6>make
gcc -I. -I../../include -I./../../include -D__USE_FIXED_PROTOTYPES__ -DSOCKS -DINCLUDE_PROTOTYPES -DKLUDGELINEMODE -DSOCKS -DINCLUDE_PROTOTYPES -o telnet authenc.o commands.o main.o network.o ring.o sys_bsd.o telnet.o terminal.o tn3270.o utilities.o -L../../lib -lsocks5 -ltermcap -Llibtelnet -ltelnet
/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
_cfgetispeed
_cfgetospeed
_tcgetattr
_tcsetattr
*** Exit 1
`all' not remade because of errors
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Emmett
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From: "Jennifer Smith" <jsmith@deleteme.gnyg.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.benchmarks,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mac OS X Server Benchmarks and Boundaries
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Date: 15 Oct 1998 02:43:10 GMT
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.MAC.ADVOCACY
Hi!
Let's for a moment set aside the all the following: Apple's marketing/focus
for Mac OS X Server, questiona about how Apple plans to gain marketshare
facing off with FreeBSD, free Linux, NT, Solaris or whoever, how much will it
cost, what applications will be available for it or not, what you may object
to or not about the inclusion of a Command-Line-Interface (CLI), whether the
open source initiative should have been a path Apple opted for, or finally,
the proposed plan to not support NXhosting, Display Postscript, and Intel
hardware beyond CR1. I have what I hope to be two straightforward questions
to ask and welcome all comments.
1) What are the boundaries (limitations in today & tomorrow's landscape), if
any, of Mac OS X Server as an operating system and environment? What will
Mac OS X Server lack?
For example, and even though people continued to buy the various upgrades, we
knew that the Mac OS 8.5 and below will be more vunerable to crashing. Add
to this the fact that these previous Mac OS'es don't have a clue about such
things as pre-emptive multitasking and multi-threading when they were
delivered. We know that while Mac OS 8.x and below didn't seem to have a
Y200 problem, Windows programming does and has to clean them up. Even though
Mac OS X Server won't have this type of problem for more than a few
millennium to come if I understand Mach/BSD 4.4 correctly.
2) How, and based on what benchmarks is Mac OS X Server performance going to
be tested against? What software/hardware tool(s) will be used? Here I
believe there have traditional been Mac Bench, ByteMarks, and NXBench.
I am sure there are much better examples of what I am trying to convey. But
even if I have failed to entirely hit the mark with the examples provided,
they are not the focus here but the questions. Please keep in mind that I am
not inquiring about what is proposed for Mac OS X but the operating system
Apple plans to deliver sometime before the end of the year - Mac OS X Server.
I make this clarification even in light of the fact that I have heard any
number of people from Apple misuse the two by clump them as one or
interchanging them. Since this has not officially shipped at the time of
this post, I understand how responses will likely be speculative in nature.
I will post a compilation of answers for all those who send direct replies
and give permission. This is not an offshot of the "What is Mac OS X
Really?" thread, but I can see where somebody could confuse my questions with
this one.
Direct replies are very much appreciated.
Ciao
Jennifer Smith
From: kenmant@autiful.nu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Convert your regular 35mm to a digital camera. Easily!
Date: 15 Oct 1998 07:21:09 GMT
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A realistic way to create C programs for black NeXT
Date: 14 Oct 1998 23:40:26 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <700u1u$b4n$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Message-ID: <19981014194026.04396.00000898@ng67.aol.com>
Actually, Frank Siegert has a C (Maybe C++?) interpreter, pre-compiled
available from his web site, <http://www.this.net/~frank> (as well as lots of
other goodies, including his wonderful pStill.app
The interpreter can't do native NeXT stuff, I believe, but should handle all
the standard text IO, and presumably (possibly?) serial as well.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Phil Brewster" <pjbrew@nospam.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.benchmarks,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac OS X Server Benchmarks and Boundaries
Date: 15 Oct 98 02:48:59 -0600
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On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 8:43 PM, Jennifer Smith
<mailto:jsmith@deleteme.gnyg.com> wrote:
>NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.MAC.ADVOCACY
>
>Hi!
>
>Let's for a moment set aside the all the following: Apple's
marketing/focus
>for Mac OS X Server, questiona about how Apple plans to gain marketshare
>facing off with FreeBSD, free Linux, NT, Solaris or whoever, how much will
>it
>cost, what applications will be available for it or not, what you may
object
>to or not about the inclusion of a Command-Line-Interface (CLI), whether
>the
>open source initiative should have been a path Apple opted for, or
finally,
>the proposed plan to not support NXhosting, Display Postscript, and Intel
>hardware beyond CR1. I have what I hope to be two straightforward
>questions
>to ask and welcome all comments.
>
>1) What are the boundaries (limitations in today & tomorrow's landscape),
>if
>any, of Mac OS X Server as an operating system and environment? What
>will
>Mac OS X Server lack?
>
The main limitation from the perspective of current MacOS users (as I see
it...), is that existing Mac apps will not benefit from the core modern OS
features (pre-emptive multitasking, etc.), but will 'only' run as-is in the
so-called Blue Box, in a kind of 'MacOS emulation' mode. This is why I
suspect that many in the Mac camp will be waiting for the later version(s)
of MacOS X due in the last half of 1999, with its access via the Carbon API
to the modern OS kernel for most current Mac apps (with some
development/'tweaking' required....).
In the near term, I would say that native (OpenStep/Yellow Box) application
support for MacOS X (Server or other....) will be sufficient for many, esp.
the early adopters who've been waiting for something like it from Apple
'lo, these many years', but that developer support may not be particularly
strong for awhile yet. And at this point, I think it's a bit too early to
guarantee that it will ever reach 'critical mass', even though I certainly
hope it does (and sooner rather than later; particularly since the user
benefits of OpenStep sound so amazing, from all I've heard....). I figure
it took Microsoft 2-3 years with NT before there was widespread app (and
hardware/driver) support ca. 1996-7, and it's rather unlikely that Apple's
new OS will be moving into the mainstream any more quickly than that (and
this in spite of all the nifty NeXT/OpenStep legacy apps and Unix tools,
the more open API, etc., that will be there at launch, in contrast to NT
starting virtually at 'ground zero' for native Win32 support in 1993, I
would still say).....
If the primary intent is to use OS X Server purely _as_ a server OS,
however, it will benefit from being 'BSD Unix ready' pretty much right out
of the box, I would guess..... In addition, advanced apps and tools for an
OpenStep-based server, such as WebObjects, already exist and have proven
themselves in the industry.
In fact, the former (BSD-readiness) could also be a long-term benefit of OS
X Server _as_ a server OS vs. the later versions of OS X, if Apple 'hides'
the underlying Unix to the point of disabling access to it (whether via GUI
or CLI....) in the later general consumer release(s), as some commentators
have murmured/worried/rumored they might.....
The most severe limitations of the OS X environment are on the hardware
side, in my opinion: namely, that at present, 1) Apple apparently has no
long-term strategy for MacOS X on Intel beyond CR1 ('MacOS X Server'), and
2) no nearer-term long-term strategy for supporting the consumer release
version(s) of MacOS X on anything but the newer G3/G4 PowerPC Apple
hardware. (Maybe it will still run on older PowerPC Macs without 'official
support' from Apple; then again, maybe it won't....)
Thus, OS X appears to be destined for a
'niche-within-a-niche(-within-a-niche)' high-end target audience from the
start, hardware-wise, and will likely turn into a more expensive OS upgrade
if new Apple hardware purchases are involved a year from now, adding to
TCO, etc....
No doubt it will still be _very_ price-competitive with Sun/Solaris or
RS6000/AIX solutions for hardware and OS software, but not everybody is
their own Fortune 500 company so as to be in that kind of a market, further
fuelling the fires of the free Unixen and even NT by comparison, among the
price-conscious businesses and individual/SOHO 'power users' of the
computing world <*commence plebian grumblings amongst 'the rest of us'
[sic]*>.....
[....]
>
>2) How, and based on what benchmarks is Mac OS X Server performance
>going to
>be tested against? What software/hardware tool(s) will be used? Here I
>believe there have traditional been Mac Bench, ByteMarks, and NXBench.
>
No specific ideas here (except that ByteMarks should still work...), but
what I think will ultimately be _really_ interesting about MacOS X Server
(vs. the later versions, as things now stand.....), is to finally see how
Intel-based and PowerPC-based hardware perform when running under the same
(or at least a fundamentally similar) OS.....
Then again, I'm posting this from one of the *.advocacy groups, so I'm sure
we'll be hearing all about it, whether it's 'really interesting' or
not..... ;-)
Cheers,
--------
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From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
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In article <700f7p$i44@obi-wan.fdt.net>
luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL) writes:
> In <6vvom7$mlm$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Helmut Heller wrote:
>
>
> > I have micq working.
> > To overcome this, use the -posix flag!
> > Should I NeXTmail the executable to you?
>
> How about putting it on peanuts or peak?
>
> TjL
Good idea!
The peanuts people are overworked, so I submitted it to
ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE
It is in the incoming area right now.
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From: uni9@rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Moritz Gmelin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: "No Shell" after crash
Date: 15 Oct 1998 14:09:54 GMT
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Hi !
After a System crash, the only User being able to log into my machine is
root ! Everyone else is thrown out after loging in. Or gets a No shell
message doing a telnet to that Computer. Even root, when doing a "su" gets
"no shell".
What's wrong ?
Thanks for your help
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Date: 15 Oct 1998 22:44:39 GMT
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Thoughts:
/etc/shells is gone
/bin/csh is gone and root's shell was /bin/sh
using "finger" check what other users' shell setting was, then try to execute
that shell.
Try creating a new user and see if they can login.
Check /etc/shells exists and has all the correct shells in it.
TjL
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From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: 15 Oct 1998 23:59:11 GMT
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis
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References: <6vt8oe$3jb@ttacs7.ttu.edu> <6vtasv$lca@shelob.afs.com>
In article <6vtasv$lca@shelob.afs.com>, Greg Anderson <greg@afs.com> wrote:
>Alan A. Barhorst wrote in message <6vt8oe$3jb@ttacs7.ttu.edu>...
>>Hello, is there a converter for openwrite that I can use to convert those
>>blasted ms word docs I keep getting in my mail. I need something to get
>>these "standard" documents over to something I can work with like RTF or
>>wordperfect (old next version), or some older version of ms word. Any
>>help is appreciated. A script or command line app is ok with me too.
>
>Nope. AFS is in the same boat with WriteUp, because the company that
>provided these document translators dropped out of the NeXT market before
>their Office 97 modules were available. I have been attempting to convince
>that company to reenter the MacOS X [Server] market, or at least allow AFS
>to do so with their code. But this is another good example where Apple's
>actions (or lack thereof) are serving to inhibit progress on YB application
>development. Until they start talking seriously about the product and
>establish price and shipping dates, most vendors are not going to commit
>resources. Under these conditions, the "failure" of MacOS X Server could
>become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>
>Greg
>
I read somewhere recently that the MS Word file specs were available on some
web site to people who sign up for some sort of free support program. Now I
can't remember where I read it, where it is or what the restrictions are.
Anyone ever hear of this program?
Since I am in the same boat as Alan, I even thought of joining this program
and hacking together a filter for at least the simple parts of Word that
would cover most of what I get in email. I would guess that the restrictions
would not allow creating a public filter for say MSWord->rtf for
distribution, but at least I would know what the $&@%*# format is without
having to reverse engineer!
It seems to me that half the problem with Microsoft is that they protect
their file formats so other people can't read them. (The other half is their
software.) That strikes me as similar to the complaints about AT&T and their
communications "standards" before they were broken up. Hope the feds do
something at least about this.
Cheers,
Don Petcher
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Subject: !!NEW DOWNLOAD SITE..USEFUL PROGRAMS!!
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 02:33:19 GMT
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If you like to download shareware/freeware you'll love this ALL NEW DOWNLOAD
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From: Tom Weiland <pcmd@ais.net>
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I have a ton of WriteNow files on my NeXT Slab running Os:2.1
The system is slowly dying and I need to move them to a PC. Is there
any software that will read the *.wn files so they can be usable? I
have access to the NeXT via BWTCP and can see the files. When I use
WORDPAD to open them they are totally blank...
Please Help...
Tom
tomw@pcmd.com
From: jayfar@netaxs.com (Jayfar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac OS X Server Benchmarks and Boundaries
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:31:15 -0400
Organization: Jayfar's Original Virtual Macintosh
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In article <3626D6E0.2A6CBEC6@home.com>, msms@home.com wrote:
| Actually, the MacOS is multi-threaded to a certain degree. Not like
| OPENSTEP and even less like the BeOS, but threads can be created and
| run. In fact on 68k machines, threads are scheduled preemptively. Just
| a note.
That *was* true, but I believe the pre-emptive 68K thread capability was
removed in recent versions of the thread manager, presumably for
consistency with the lack of same on PPC (as I semi-understand, PPC
implementation would have been nightmarish or impossible under the
present-day MacOS).
Cheers,
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> 1) What are the boundaries (limitations in today & tomorrow's landscape), if
> any, of Mac OS X Server as an operating system and environment? What will
> Mac OS X Server lack?
Phil Brewster had some good things to say. I think that it'll be fair
to compare it to OPENSTEP of today. However, MacOS X (of next year) will
be a bit different than the MacOS X Server of this year, which is something
you might want to consider. I personally don't see an issue with MacOS X
only supported on G3s and later, since it'll be 2 years after the G3s
introduction when it's released. MacOS 9(?) or whatever will be able
to hold those over not able to run MacOS X, or aren't willing to run it
on a non-supported machine.
We'll probably have to wait for the benchmarking. Apple's probably working
hard on making a good port of the OS to PPC, but PPC is the newest hardware
the OS is going to run on. So I would suspect there's a chance it won't be
as fast as it could - at least for MacOS X Server.
> to this the fact that these previous Mac OS'es don't have a clue about such
> things as pre-emptive multitasking and multi-threading when they were
> delivered.
Actually, the MacOS is multi-threaded to a certain degree. Not like
OPENSTEP and even less like the BeOS, but threads can be created and
run. In fact on 68k machines, threads are scheduled preemptively. Just
a note.
-- John
From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Old NeXT Slab & WriteNow - HELP!
Date: 16 Oct 1998 05:06:03 GMT
Organization: would be nice
Message-ID: <706k7r$d5c@obi-wan.fdt.net>
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In <3626A2CB.CE6AFAF@ais.net> Tom Weiland wrote:
> I have a ton of WriteNow files on my NeXT Slab running Os:2.1
> The system is slowly dying and I need to move them to a PC. Is there
> any software that will read the *.wn files so they can be usable? I
> have access to the NeXT via BWTCP and can see the files. When I use
> WORDPAD to open them they are totally blank...
There is a wn2rtf program that you probably already have, if not,
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/converters/wn2rtf.1.0.N.b.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/converters/wn2rtf.1.0.README
TjL
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From: chwe@uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Subject: httpd on NeXT 3.0 slab?
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Hello all,
I'm a proud owner and user of a black slab (non-turbo), but I never
upgraded the system software past 3.0. I would like the slab to be a
low-load web server (able to respond to simple http calls---text,
pictures, etc., no fancy stuff like java, forms, frames). Hence I need to
install httpd or something like it. But the httpd (apache, etc.) that
I've seen in the archive sites are all for systems 3.3 or above. Any
suggestions would be appreciated---if some old binaries are floating
around somewhere, that would be great! Please respond to
chwe@uchicago.edu.
Thanks in advance,
Michael Chwe
From: "Greg Anderson" <greg@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:16:30 -0400
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
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Donald N. Petcher wrote in message <70628f$173$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>...
>I read somewhere recently that the MS Word file specs were available on
some
>web site to people who sign up for some sort of free support program. Now I
>can't remember where I read it, where it is or what the restrictions are.
>Anyone ever hear of this program?
If you sign up as a developer on their Web site, there is a section that
describes the layout of Word7 (and up) documents in *excruciating* detail.
So much so, that it makes you want to wait around for someone else to do
it...
>It seems to me that half the problem with Microsoft is that they protect
>their file formats so other people can't read them.
That used to be true, but no longer. And if the plan to use HTML/XML in
Office 2000 holds up, they will be basically plain-text again.
Greg
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From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang)
Subject: Where to find old software for NS 2.x?
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I continue to play with NS 2.0 and I like it pretty much. Now the
problem is that most of the current applications do not run on
NS 2.0. I just wonder if there is still a public domain place that
you can download the NS2 applications. Purdue used to have one
a long time ago, but of course no longer there any more.
Thanks for any help.
From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:52:41 +0000
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Try http://www.wotsit.org/text.htm
I suppose you all know that MS Word 97 reads and writes .RTF files,
although there is not a perfect match. Rich text format (RTF) is
supposed to be Microsoft's preferred transfer format.
Greg Anderson wrote:
>
> Donald N. Petcher wrote in message <70628f$173$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>...
> >I read somewhere recently that the MS Word file specs were available on
> some
> >web site to people who sign up for some sort of free support program. Now I
> >can't remember where I read it, where it is or what the restrictions are.
> >Anyone ever hear of this program?
>
> If you sign up as a developer on their Web site, there is a section that
> describes the layout of Word7 (and up) documents in *excruciating* detail.
> So much so, that it makes you want to wait around for someone else to do
> it...
>
> >It seems to me that half the problem with Microsoft is that they protect
> >their file formats so other people can't read them.
>
> That used to be true, but no longer. And if the plan to use HTML/XML in
> Office 2000 holds up, they will be basically plain-text again.
>
> Greg
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From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: 16 Oct 1998 19:25:03 GMT
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis
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In article <707o0n$dmj@shelob.afs.com>, Greg Anderson <greg@afs.com> wrote:
>Donald N. Petcher wrote in message <70628f$173$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>...
[snip]
>
>>It seems to me that half the problem with Microsoft is that they protect
>>their file formats so other people can't read them.
>
>That used to be true, but no longer. And if the plan to use HTML/XML in
>Office 2000 holds up, they will be basically plain-text again.
>
>Greg
>
I haven't followed this carefully. You mean their *default* file type is
supposed to be HTML/XML? That would be a dramatic shift! I'm all for it. (At
least it would allow me to push off using MSWord for a lot longer.)
What about Excel? I also get those files in the mail. Do they have plans to
move those files to a standard?
Cheers,
Don Petcher
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From: "Cliff Leong" <cleong@NOSPAM.jerseycow.com>
Subject: Re: httpd on NeXT 3.0 slab?
Message-ID: <F0xvus.6JL@news2.new-york.net>
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:33:34 GMT
You should be able to downlaod the apache source, set up the configuration
files, and compile the apache core. No need to hunt for binaries. The
apache docs are pretty clear and explain everyhting very well. I ran apache
1.3.0 on my NS3.3 cube just fine before going to OS4.2. I never ran NS3.0
though.
Cliff Leong
Michael Suk-Young Chwe wrote in message ...
>Hello all,
>
>I'm a proud owner and user of a black slab (non-turbo), but I never
>upgraded the system software past 3.0. I would like the slab to be a
>low-load web server (able to respond to simple http calls---text,
>pictures, etc., no fancy stuff like java, forms, frames). Hence I need to
>install httpd or something like it. But the httpd (apache, etc.) that
>I've seen in the archive sites are all for systems 3.3 or above. Any
>suggestions would be appreciated---if some old binaries are floating
>around somewhere, that would be great! Please respond to
>chwe@uchicago.edu.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Michael Chwe
From: recurve@wam.umd.edu (Aaron David Rosenzweig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Virtual PC & NS3.3
Date: 16 Oct 1998 19:36:06 GMT
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I'm having trouble installing NS3.3 on Virt. PC 2.1.1
When the installation asks for what drivers to install for the CD, I pick
(1) the 154x SCSI driver (because some NeXTAnswer said to pick it and that
it was a bug.
Next I try to install the EIDE and ATAPI driver however it fails with BIOS
read errors....
Suggestions? thanks :-)
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From: "Greg Anderson" <greg@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:32:50 -0400
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
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Donald N. Petcher wrote:
>I haven't followed this carefully. You mean their *default* file type is
>supposed to be HTML/XML? That would be a dramatic shift! I'm all for it.
(At
>least it would allow me to push off using MSWord for a lot longer.)
I don't know about *default* file type. But the word is that HTML has been
seriously considered as *a* native file type for Word documents. Frankly, I
think that just has the potential to dramatically pollute HTML with all
kinds of quirky commands, but it could be done in a reasonable fashion, I
suppose. Might end up supplanting RTF, at least.
Greg
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: 16 Oct 1998 23:12:17 GMT
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis
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In article <70871b$eh1@shelob.afs.com>, Greg Anderson <greg@afs.com> wrote:
>Donald N. Petcher wrote:
>>I haven't followed this carefully. You mean their *default* file type is
>>supposed to be HTML/XML? That would be a dramatic shift! I'm all for it.
>(At
>>least it would allow me to push off using MSWord for a lot longer.)
>
>I don't know about *default* file type. But the word is that HTML has been
>seriously considered as *a* native file type for Word documents. Frankly, I
>think that just has the potential to dramatically pollute HTML with all
>kinds of quirky commands, but it could be done in a reasonable fashion, I
>suppose. Might end up supplanting RTF, at least.
>
>Greg
>
I guess you're right. M$ will try to leverage their use of HTML/XML to take
over the definition of HTML/XML. And since it probably won't be their
default file type, I will STILL get Word proprietary format files in the
mail from people who know nothing about standards. So now I'm all against
it. Alas, I've become a pessimist again.
--Don
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anyone tried compiling mswordview? (was Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97)
Date: 16 Oct 1998 23:23:11 GMT
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis
Message-ID: <708kgv$bk4$1@newsreader.wustl.edu>
Someone pointed me to mswordview as a possible solution for viewing word
files. It is supposed to translate word documents into html. I got all files
compiled with a couple minor changes except the file "support.c" which looks
like it is running into system incompatibilities that the configure program
wasn't able to set up properly. The problems are beyond my present knowledge
of unix variants. (After all, I'm just a physicist.) Anyone interested? It
can be found at http://www.csn.ul.ie/~caolan/docs/MSWordView.html.
Although it is only up to version 0.4.7 or so it is supposed to handle most
of word 97 docs by now.
--Don Petcher
From: "Michael A. Thompson" <mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Virtual PC & NS3.3
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:10:21 -0700
Organization: University of North Texas
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George B Haff wrote:
>
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Oct-98 Virtual PC &
> NS3.3 by Aaron D. Rosenzweig@wam.
> > I'm having trouble installing NS3.3 on Virt. PC 2.1.1
> > When the installation asks for what drivers to install for the CD, I pick
> > (1) the 154x SCSI driver (because some NeXTAnswer said to pick it and that
> > it was a bug.
> >
> > Next I try to install the EIDE and ATAPI driver however it fails with BIOS
> > read errors....
> >
> > Suggestions? thanks :-)
> >
>
> i dont believe you can install ns3.3 on virtualpc because it needs a
> scsi cdrom to install, for which vpc does not provide support. however,
> i do believe it is possible to install openstep on virtualpc.
>
> -george
Last year, before I sold my last Mac I managed to install NS3.3 on
VPC1.0. It was a pain but it finally worked... I wish I could remember
what I did.... I think that there is one CD-ROM driver that will see the
CD-ROM in VPC even though its an IDE.... I do remember downloading a few
driver updates to the floppy installer for NS3.3.
Micahel
--
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Unix SysAdmin.
[IRIX - NeXTStep - Linux]
University of North Texas
Center for Experimental Music and Intermedia
[C.E.M.I.]
Office: (940) 565-2382
E-Mail: mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu
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From: Brian Wotring <brian@denalisites.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenGL
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:07:18 -0500
Organization: Access Orlando (407) 895-1200
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Does anybody know where I can get an OpenGL clone, like Mesa, for
OpenStep 4.2 Mach, Intel. I think I found a Mesa binary, however, it
was somewhat useless without the ability to view. I think it is
dependant upon X. Also, I'm looking for something like the glut
library.
Does anything like this even exist? I'm just need to the ability to do
some basic OpenGL development on my OpenStep box.
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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Subject: Re: Virtual PC & NS3.3
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:21:33 GMT
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That is my understanding too. I tried it many times, and emailed
Connectix and all that, with no luck. I haven't tried OPENSTEP,
mainly because I don't have it :) But I do know people who've done
it.
-- John
------------------
> i dont believe you can install ns3.3 on virtualpc because it needs a
> scsi cdrom to install, for which vpc does not provide support. however,
> i do believe it is possible to install openstep on virtualpc.
>
> -george
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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Subject: Re: Mac OS X Server Benchmarks and Boundaries
References: <703nfu$3fb@news.vbe.com> <3626D6E0.2A6CBEC6@home.com> <jayfar-1610980131150001@ppp83.blackbox1-mfs.netaxs.com>
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I don't believe preemptive threads were taken out for 68k, at least
at my last reading on the topic. I couldn't tell you why Apple made
PPC threads cooperative, but threading shouldn't make any difference
on what processor they are running. The only thing I can imagine
being a program is if somehow threads got in the way of Mixed Mode.
-- John
---------------------
> That *was* true, but I believe the pre-emptive 68K thread capability was
> removed in recent versions of the thread manager, presumably for
> consistency with the lack of same on PPC (as I semi-understand, PPC
> implementation would have been nightmarish or impossible under the
> present-day MacOS).
>
> Cheers,
> Jayfar
> --
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> jayfar@netaxs.com * Your Favorite Mac Site * Now Updated Daily *
> Philadelphia, USA <URL:http://www.netaxs.com/~jayfar/live.desk.html>
>
> Jayfar's APPLE DOOMSDAY CLOCK <URL:http://www.netaxs.com/~jayfar/>
From: "Lawson English" <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac OS X Server Benchmarks and Boundaries
Date: 17 Oct 98 02:31:21 -0700
Organization: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc.
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msms <msms@home.com> said:
>I don't believe preemptive threads were taken out for 68k, at least
>at my last reading on the topic. I couldn't tell you why Apple made
>PPC threads cooperative, but threading shouldn't make any difference
>on what processor they are running. The only thing I can imagine
>being a program is if somehow threads got in the way of Mixed Mode.
>
Threads need to be fast, no? Pre-emptive threads must be called by the
Interupt Manager, which is emulated. What happens if you have a massively
threaded native app that is supposed to switch from one thread to the next
every few milliseconds? Context-switching requires an overhead of about
100-200 PPC instructions in each direction. That's a 200-400 instruction
overhead plus whatever the Thread Manager requires for switching from one
pre-emptive thread to the next if you're using native threads PLUS L2
cache-thrashing from the constant context-switching.
In other words, we're talking massive slowdowns if pre-emptive threading
were allowed for MacOS for PPC.
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From: George B Haff <haff+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Virtual PC & NS3.3
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:58:52 -0400
Organization: Junior, Mathematical Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <kq9vCAu00iWp0_tv80@andrew.cmu.edu>
References: <708776$b7r@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Oct-98 Virtual PC &
NS3.3 by Aaron D. Rosenzweig@wam.
> I'm having trouble installing NS3.3 on Virt. PC 2.1.1
> When the installation asks for what drivers to install for the CD, I pick
> (1) the 154x SCSI driver (because some NeXTAnswer said to pick it and that
> it was a bug.
>
> Next I try to install the EIDE and ATAPI driver however it fails with BIOS
> read errors....
>
> Suggestions? thanks :-)
>
i dont believe you can install ns3.3 on virtualpc because it needs a
scsi cdrom to install, for which vpc does not provide support. however,
i do believe it is possible to install openstep on virtualpc.
-george
From: "cegla" <cegla@kki.net.pl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoundStudio 2.3
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:08:19 +0200
Organization: http://news.icm.edu.pl/
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Hi
I'll be very glad if someone give me a link to place in net where I can get
Ceres SoundStudio 2.3.
I have found URL: www.ceressoft.com but this server has been broken for last
8 month.
Please if someone now URL or have this program mail me:
mailto:cegla@kki.net.pl .
Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenGL
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From: Howard R Cole <edx@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 17 Oct 98 11:20:05 MDT
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In <3627DFB6.F738FC92@denalisites.com> Brian Wotring wrote:
> Does anybody know where I can get an OpenGL clone, like Mesa, for
> OpenStep 4.2 Mach, Intel. I think I found a Mesa binary, however, it
> was somewhat useless without the ability to view. I think it is
> dependant upon X. Also, I'm looking for something like the glut
> library.
>
> Does anything like this even exist? I'm just need to the ability to do
> some basic OpenGL development on my OpenStep box.
I have built an OpenGL (Mesa 2.5) Framework for OS4.2. It includes a
MesaView subclass which allows you to draw into a view using OpenGL
instead of postscript. Several examples included to illustrate how
to use it.
If you're interested, give me a shout here: edx@cc.usu.edu
If there's sufficient general interest, I'll throw it up on the
archives.
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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Subject: Re: Virtual PC & NS3.3
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And do you remember where you got these driver updates?
-- John
------------------
>
> Last year, before I sold my last Mac I managed to install NS3.3 on
> VPC1.0. It was a pain but it finally worked... I wish I could remember
> what I did.... I think that there is one CD-ROM driver that will see the
> CD-ROM in VPC even though its an IDE.... I do remember downloading a few
> driver updates to the floppy installer for NS3.3.
>
> Micahel
>
> --
> ----------------------------------
> Michael A. Thompson
> Unix SysAdmin.
> [IRIX - NeXTStep - Linux]
> University of North Texas
> Center for Experimental Music and Intermedia
> [C.E.M.I.]
> Office: (940) 565-2382
> E-Mail: mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu
> ----------------------------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
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Date: 18 Oct 1998 03:47:16 GMT
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Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
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Very well maintained.
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From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
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Subject: Re: Where to find old software for NS 2.x?
Date: 17 Oct 98 21:30:31
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References: <F0xME9.5K6@midway.uchicago.edu>
In-reply-to: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu's message of Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:08:33 GMT
In article <F0xME9.5K6@midway.uchicago.edu>,
tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) writes:
I continue to play with NS 2.0 and I like it pretty much. Now the
problem is that most of the current applications do not run on NS
2.0. I just wonder if there is still a public domain place that
you can download the NS2 applications. Purdue used to have one a
long time ago, but of course no longer there any more.
You'll find this a continuing problem. The community was at or near
it's peak productivity when NS3.x came out, and even for apps which
had an NS2.x version, it might be hard to find it. Even if you do
find an NS2.x app, it's likely to be _completely_ unsupported. If you
can even find someone involved with it, it's unlikely that they'll be
running NS2.x or be able to remember anything that happened that long
ago...
My strike in this direction is that I kept links to the NS2.x versions
for my three apps at www.doubleu.com. Unfortunately, I wrote other
apps that I've lost track of, and you're on your own for them.
Later,
--
scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/
<Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots
Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
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Sherlock's Find By Content actually came from the previously named
V-Twin search engine supposed to debut in Copland. The implementation
was a little different in Copland (actually better), but it's still
the same technology core. It was around before they bought NeXT.
-- John
--------------------
>
> The "Find By Content" search in OS8.5's Sherlock sounds very much like
> NeXTSTEP's old Digital Librarian. Does anyone know if they're related in any
> way other than concept? (ie was any of DL's code used?)
>
> Stefano Pagiola
> ---
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> Longtime MacOS and NeXTSTEP user, reluctant Windows NT user, future MacOS X
> Server user
>
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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So then, the threads are affected by Mixed Mode. I find it hard to
believe that Apple left the interrupt manager emulated - preemptive
threads would be far from the only thing dependant upon interrupts,
so I would like to think Apple went to the effort to make it native.
-- John
----------------------
> Threads need to be fast, no? Pre-emptive threads must be called by the
> Interupt Manager, which is emulated. What happens if you have a massively
> threaded native app that is supposed to switch from one thread to the next
> every few milliseconds? Context-switching requires an overhead of about
> 100-200 PPC instructions in each direction. That's a 200-400 instruction
> overhead plus whatever the Thread Manager requires for switching from one
> pre-emptive thread to the next if you're using native threads PLUS L2
> cache-thrashing from the constant context-switching.
>
> In other words, we're talking massive slowdowns if pre-emptive threading
> were allowed for MacOS for PPC.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DSP for speech synthesis?
Date: 20 Oct 1998 03:54:16 GMT
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i found an shell app that did this long ago. i could start it up, type some
text, then type a period and enter and it would use the DSP to generate the
sound. now i can not find that app anywhere. anyone remember this. it was not
a dot app gui, pnt and click app, but something i ran from a shell.
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From: "Pascal Haakmat" <ahaakmat@REMOVE.TO.REPLY.cable.a2000.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac OS X Server Benchmarks and Boundaries
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In article <362BF112.CBC634E2@home.com> , msms <msms@home.com> wrote:
>So then, the threads are affected by Mixed Mode. I find it hard to
>believe that Apple left the interrupt manager emulated - preemptive
>threads would be far from the only thing dependant upon interrupts,
>so I would like to think Apple went to the effort to make it native.
But they haven't. This is apparently one of the reasons why the Mac File
Manager is still emulated; because it relies on the interrupt manager. And,
of course, many other things, as you state.
Pascal.
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Ohlfs font problems
Date: 19 Oct 1998 20:27:57 GMT
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A very weird thing has started happening on my NS 3.0 machine. The
Ohlfs font seems to be getting corrupted in a variety of apps --
Terminal -- occasional characters appearing in italics; now, in Mail and
TeXVeiw windows, it's not Ohlfs at all, but something that looks like 5 pt
TimesRoman.The message window in Mail is fine, just the com[ose window is
corrupted.
When I look at Ohlfs in the Font:Lister app, point sizes < 14 look bad, but
sizes 14pt, 24 pt look OK Here's what I have in /NextLibrary:
/NextLibrary/Fonts [184] % cd Ohlfs.font/
Fonts/Ohlfs.font [185] % ll
total 78
-r--r--r-- 1 root 486 Jul 29 1992 Ohlfs
-r--r--r-- 1 root 15649 Jul 29 1992 Ohlfs.afm
-r--r--r-- 1 root 24273 Jul 29 1992 Ohlfs.bepf
-r--r--r-- 1 root 9032 Jul 29 1992 Screen-Ohlfs.10.afm
-r--r--r-- 1 root 9143 Jul 29 1992 Screen-Ohlfs.12.afm
-r--r--r-- 1 root 9433 Jul 29 1992 Screen-Ohlfs.16.afm
-r--r--r-- 1 root 9015 Jul 29 1992 Screen-Ohlfs.9.afm
Sometimes rebooting cures it, sometimes it persists.
Anyone ever see this before or have an inkling what the cure might be?
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 21:34:34 -0700
From: mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: httpd on NeXT 3.0 slab?
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I have Apache (the updated, better version of httpd) running on a slab
running 3.1, so at least that doesn't require 3.3, and I think it'll work
on 3.0 as well. I just used the binaries off of next-ftp.peak.org
In article <chwe-1610980906400001@chwe2.spc.uchicago.edu>,
chwe@uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe) wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm a proud owner and user of a black slab (non-turbo), but I never
> upgraded the system software past 3.0. I would like the slab to be a
> low-load web server (able to respond to simple http calls---text,
> pictures, etc., no fancy stuff like java, forms, frames). Hence I need to
> install httpd or something like it. But the httpd (apache, etc.) that
> I've seen in the archive sites are all for systems 3.3 or above. Any
> suggestions would be appreciated---if some old binaries are floating
> around somewhere, that would be great! Please respond to
> chwe@uchicago.edu.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Michael Chwe
From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need recommendation for plotting software!
Date: 20 Oct 1998 21:45:38 GMT
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I'm looking for a (hopefully free) application which I can use to create a
bar graph.
There are 6 people who have scores between 1-99
I would like to be able to make graphs based on the data in this format:
(assuming Bob had a 10, Tom a 30, Bill a 20, and Carol a 10)
x
x x
x x x x
Bob Tom Bill Carol
Is there something like that out there? There are a lot of plotting apps out
there, but I've never used any of them.
TjL
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From: Robert Doss <rdoss@apple.com>
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Subject: Re: Sherlock's "Find By Content "
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:42:22 -0700
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spagiola@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> The "Find By Content" search in OS8.5's Sherlock sounds very much like
> NeXTSTEP's old Digital Librarian. Does anyone know if they're related in any
> way other than concept? (ie was any of DL's code used?)
>
It's more like OmniWeb's Search panel than Digital Libraian.
---
Robert
From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenGL
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:51:56 +0200
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Howard R Cole wrote:
> I have built an OpenGL (Mesa 2.5) Framework for OS4.2. It includes a
> MesaView subclass which allows you to draw into a view using OpenGL
> instead of postscript. Several examples included to illustrate how
> to use it.
>
> If you're interested, give me a shout here: edx@cc.usu.edu
>
> If there's sufficient general interest, I'll throw it up on the
> archives.
As far as i'm concerned you can start throwing now!
Marcel
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
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Subject: Re: Need recommendation for plotting software!
Date: 20 Oct 1998 21:43:28 -0700
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Illustrator will do it.
Emmett
In article <70j0a2$lia@obi-wan.fdt.net>,
TjL <luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed> wrote:
>
>I'm looking for a (hopefully free) application which I can use to create a
>bar graph.
>
>There are 6 people who have scores between 1-99
>
>I would like to be able to make graphs based on the data in this format:
>
>(assuming Bob had a 10, Tom a 30, Bill a 20, and Carol a 10)
>
> x
> x x
> x x x x
> Bob Tom Bill Carol
>
>
>Is there something like that out there? There are a lot of plotting apps out
>there, but I've never used any of them.
>
>TjL
>
>
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IT EXISTS!! Re: Openstep on Solaris
Date: 12 Oct 1998 10:47:40 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
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References: <3602C4F1.C6AB1898@home.com> <6tv31d$eja@slip.net> <6tviej$l86$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <6u4sa5$8e5@slip.net> <6u4u7r$bse$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <6vos91$mkn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6vqs3s$25b$3@news1.tc.umn.edu> <3621c313.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Sven Droll (sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de) wrote:
: [...]
: Openstep 4.2 only ruins on the Sparc 4 to 20.
I hope that ^^^^^ to mean *run* :-).
Greetings,
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compatibility between OS4 and MacOSX Server
Date: 12 Oct 1998 11:07:39 GMT
Organization: University Essen, Germany
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Benjamin Romer (benjamin.romer@unisys.com) wrote:
: Hi,
Hi!
:
: Simple question: Will an app compiled on OS4 Intel run on OSX Server? What
: about the other way around?
From all that Apple said and mainly what was said in (informed?) newsgroups,
no (, but I'll come back to that in a moment!).
Reason behind this is, that MacOS X Server (aka Rhapsody) is/will be/should
be based on the BSD4.4 unix variant as opposed to the now 4.3 version.
[There were also plans to put it on top of a Mach 3.x kernel as opposed to
the now modified 2.5 one, but I think this won't be in this version, and
as Apple said there to be only one version of Rhapsody, and certainly only
one for Intel, I wouldn't expect this to happen.]
There are problems with system calls expecting different [sizes in] arguments
that make a simple binary shift difficult; if you use proper methods it
is possible, though, as the binary can be identified as being one belonging
to a 4.3 BSD type OS; then you could translation/legacy libraries let kick in.
This gives raise to the hope (and now I'll come back to the remark above),
that it is true, what a nice soul said about the developer release 2 (DR2)
of Rhapsody, namely, that by copying some files (mainly shared libs) over
from OPENSTEP 4.x, for him it was possible to execute nearly every
(common) OPENSTEP as well as NEXTSTEP (binary) application. No one confirmed
this until now, I'm sorry to say; but hope exists.
You most probably will need an NS 3.3 or more likele OS 4.2 (4.x) CD for
this to work, as Apple isn't likely to include this on the 'Rhapsody' CDs.
So responsibilty for everyting (running, damages, legal aspects) are totally
with you!
:
: I've got OS4.1, and am considering switching from non-OPENSTEP development
: on NT to development on OS4, but I'd like to know if any of the software
: I'll produce will still be functional.
You see, a 'Radio Eriwan(sp?)' answer: "In principle NO, but ..."
:
: Thanks in advance,
:
: Ben
You're welcome,
Ruediger
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From: John Burricelli <mrzog@worldnet.att.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT?
Date: 20 Oct 1998 11:31:54 GMT
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On a releated note, I contacted Operasoftware, hoping they would port
Opera to NeXT or at least Openstep. They weren't interested. If the
large money making potential isn't there, they aren't interested.
Steve M wrote:
> Here's a url of a netscape page reporting a port to NeXT:
> http://home.netscape.com/communicator/v4.5/faq/index.html#Q. What
> platforms are supported by Netscape
>
> (The above 2 lines should be pasted into your browser.)
>
> Does anybody know more about this?
>
> Thank You,
> Steve
From: spagiola@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for plotting software!
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:50:22 GMT
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luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL) wrote:
> I'm looking for a (hopefully free) application which I can use to create a
> bar graph.
> There are 6 people who have scores between 1-99
> I would like to be able to make graphs based on the data in this format:
> (assuming Bob had a 10, Tom a 30, Bill a 20, and Carol a 10)
>
> x
> x x
> x x x x
> Bob Tom Bill Carol
>
> Is there something like that out there? There are a lot of plotting apps out
> there, but I've never used any of them.
This is a standard feature of any spreadsheet. On NeXTSTEP, Mesa, Parasheet,
and Improv could all do this.
Stefano Pagiola
---
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From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Did NeXT OS include Mathematica, Framemaker?
Date: 21 Oct 1998 14:34:29 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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Originator: schwarz@poseidon.physik.tu-berlin.de
Did the NeXT OS that came with a NeXT Color station in about 1991
include a license for Framemaker and Mathematica? Does anybody remember?
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From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did NeXT OS include Mathematica, Framemaker?
Date: 21 Oct 1998 14:51:11 GMT
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In article <70krdl$ejk$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) writes:
> Did the NeXT OS that came with a NeXT Color station in about 1991
> include a license for Framemaker and Mathematica? Does anybody remember?
>
At least the academic version included a Mma license.
I never heard that a FrameMaker license was bundled.
Helmut
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did NeXT OS include Mathematica, Framemaker?
Date: 21 Oct 1998 17:17:14 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
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The references which I've seen state that Framemaker was included in a demo
version, this would've been in Bruce Webster's _NeXT Book_, or maybe _The NeXT
Bible_
My brother-in-law had a demo package, as well as a licensed version for
FrameMaker in with his Cube when I picked it up.
William
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From: spagiola@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did NeXT OS include Mathematica, Framemaker?
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:32:44 GMT
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schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) wrote:
> Did the NeXT OS that came with a NeXT Color station in about 1991
> include a license for Framemaker and Mathematica? Does anybody remember?
IIRC, sales to education included a Mathematica licence. They never included
Framemaker, as far as I was aware. I DID get Mma; I did not get Framemaker. I
suppose it'd possible that other groups got different deals, but i do not
recall anything like that, and the community was small enough that I'd
probably have heard of it.
Improv was also bundled with early slab sales, but I think that offer was over
by the time the color slabs came out.
Stefano Pagiola
---
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From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Driver hacking
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:30:14 +0200
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Hi,
I'd like to know if it is possible (and if so, how to do it) to define
your own resoltions/sync rates for graphic board drivers in
Openstep/mach for intel in order to meet the needs for a specific
monitor.
Thanks,
Marcel
From: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT?
Date: 21 Oct 1998 12:53:57 -0400
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John Burricelli <mrzog@worldnet.att.net> writes:
> On a releated note, I contacted Operasoftware, hoping they would port
> Opera to NeXT or at least Openstep. They weren't interested. If the
> large money making potential isn't there, they aren't interested.
>
> Steve M wrote:
>
> > Here's a url of a netscape page reporting a port to NeXT:
> > http://home.netscape.com/communicator/v4.5/faq/index.html#Q. What
> > platforms are supported by Netscape
> >
> > (The above 2 lines should be pasted into your browser.)
> >
> > Does anybody know more about this?
Well, I couldn't find any mention of NeXT there; I did dredge up
<http://www.mozilla.org/ports/rhapsody/>, concerning an effort to port
to Rhapsody. Their strategy seems to include first an X-based port,
then Yellow Box. Which I guess holds out some hope for NeXT
compatibility.
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Subject: Re: Sherlock's "Find By Content "
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From: marco@sente.ch.mil (Marco Scheurer)
Message-ID: <362e159c.0@epflnews.epfl.ch>
Date: 21 Oct 98 17:10:52 GMT
Organization: EPFL
On 10/19/98, Robert Doss wrote:
>
>
>spagiola@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>
>> The "Find By Content" search in OS8.5's Sherlock sounds very
>> much like NeXTSTEP's old Digital Librarian. Does anyone know if
>> they're related in any way other than concept? (ie was any of
>> DL's code used?)
>>
>
>It's more like OmniWeb's Search panel than Digital Libraian.
>
It's both. Based on AIAT (ex V-Twin) it searched by content on your
disks much as Digital Librarian (based on IndexingKit) did.
It also searches on the Internet by querying known index sites.
--
Marco Scheurer (remove "dot mil" from my address)
Sen:te
OPENSTEP/MacOSX and WebObjects development, consulting and mentoring.
From: alec@lepton.phys.oxy.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tiff -> pdf converter
Date: 21 Oct 1998 20:29:43 GMT
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA
Message-ID: <70lg7n$pu5@sophri.cc.oxy.edu>
Can anyone point me to a pdf -> tiff converter for NS3.3?
Thanks!
From: spagiola@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT?
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:32:28 GMT
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westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin) wrote:
> Well, I couldn't find any mention of NeXT there; I did dredge up
> <http://www.mozilla.org/ports/rhapsody/>, concerning an effort to port
> to Rhapsody. Their strategy seems to include first an X-based port,
> then Yellow Box. Which I guess holds out some hope for NeXT
> compatibility.
Why bother? Omniweb already provides a perfectly good web browser for
NeXTSTEP. I'd like to see Netscape on OSX and OSXS because of what that would
mean for support of those OSs, but from all I've seen of recent Omniweb
versions, I probably won't use Netscape under OSXS even if its available.
Stefano Pagiola
---
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Longtime MacOS and NeXTSTEP user, reluctant Windows NT user, future MacOS X
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From: Peter Eybert <pjoe@charon.muc.de>
Subject: Re: Did NeXT OS include Mathematica, Framemaker?
Sender: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert)
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:09:43 GMT
spagiola@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) wrote:
> > Did the NeXT OS that came with a NeXT Color station in about 1991
> > include a license for Framemaker and Mathematica? Does anybody remember?
> IIRC, sales to education included a Mathematica licence. They never included
> Framemaker, as far as I was aware. I DID get Mma; I did not get Framemaker. I
> suppose it'd possible that other groups got different deals, but i do not
> recall anything like that, and the community was small enough that I'd
> probably have heard of it.
> Improv was also bundled with early slab sales, but I think that offer was over
> by the time the color slabs came out.
No, my color slab came with Improv, but no Mma and Framemaker (non-acad.).
Peter Eybert.
--
pjoe@charon.muc.de
From: "James Campbell" <James@Virtual-Information.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Access97 Compression?????????
Message-ID: <EEsX1.1265$T01.732@nnrp2.ptd.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:48:20 GMT
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Organization: PenTeleData http://www.ptd.net
Could someone please give me some information about a way to compress a huge
Access database so that it would still be able to be accessed by visual
basic 5.0. I am with a growing software company and we are very close to our
newest release of our program. Our problem is that we must fit the whole
program on a single CD. We need a way to compress our database so that the
user will be able to still run our program from the rom .We also would not
like to lose too much speed. If you know of a way we could acheive this
through certain tools or 3rd party software please contact me at
James@Virtual-Information.com or call me at 1-888-420-8099.
Thank you,
James Campbell
ICQ# 6249313
From: "Alex Molochnikov" <alex@gestalt.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can't get TextEdit to work on YellowBox for NT
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:34:14 -0600
Organization: Canada Connect Corp.
Message-ID: <70lng3$i9u$1@cleavage.canuck.com>
TextEdit will start, but no window will appear and it will hang. The only
evidence that it is running is that it appears in the list of processes in
the task manager. The EventViewer shows 11 errors in regards to TextEdit
starting with:
- "Couldn't load the Java Virtual Machine."
- "NSJavaBundleSetup: cannot locate class
com.apple.alpha.core.NativeRuntime, library search path not set up"
- "NSJavaClassLoaderForPath: cannot locate class
com.apple.misc.BundleClassLoader"
etc...
I have reinstalled YellowBox, but nothing seems to change.
Any clue?
####################################################################
From: cejensen@winternet.com (Christian Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Did NeXT OS include Mathematica, Framemaker?
Date: 22 Oct 1998 00:20:34 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc.
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You (WillAdams <willadams@aol.com>) wrote
in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 21 Oct 1998 17:17:14 GMT:
>
> The references which I've seen state that Framemaker was included in a demo
> version,
It exists in /NextDeveloper/Demos on my NeXT 1.0 optical disk.
--Chris
**************************
Chris Jensen
cejensen@winternet.com
MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger."
--Mark Twain
ivers to work; calling a Windows oriented VBIOS is
probmatic activity, even Linux fails on this.
Some video cards are strange, they will only work at certain resolutions
(eg 640, 800, 1024, 1280), but most it is just a matter of programming
the dot clock to the right frequency and setting the width and height,
then telling Openstep what you have done.
Marcel Volkerts wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to know if it is possible (and if so, how to do it) to define
> your own resoltions/sync rates for graphic board drivers in
> Openstep/mach for intel in order to meet the needs for a specific
> monitor.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marcel
--
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http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~forsee/
tel/fax: +44 1243 787487
From: cejensen@winternet.com (Christian Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT?
Date: 22 Oct 1998 00:06:09 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <70lsth$2i6$1@blackice.winternet.com>
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You (Stephen H. Westin <westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu>) wrote
in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 21 Oct 1998 12:53:57 -0400:
>
> Well, I couldn't find any mention of NeXT there;
Look harder! A NEXTSTEP 3.3 version of Netscape Communicator 4.5 (if such a thing can actually be believed), is mentinoed plainly, in two places.
Here:
http://home.netscape.com/communicator/v4.5/faq/index.html
..the following appears:
"Although not supported by Netscape, Netscape Communicator 4.5 and Navigator 4.5 are available on the following 21 additional platforms: [...], NeXTStep 3.3, [...]."
The same information is presented here:
http://sitesearch.netscape.com/communicator/v4.5/datasheet/index.html
I checked ftp.netscape.com//pub/communicator/4.5/english/unix/unsupported, and found about 15 of the 21 OS's mentioned at the above URLs, most uploaded in the last 1-2 days. So, it appears that more versions are to come.
I for one find the prospect of a Netscape port to NEXTSTEP (even if it requires X), to be tantalizing to say the least. It may be too good to be true, but... at the moment at least, it looks like it's going to happen!
--Chris
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cejensen@winternet.com
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tiff -> pdf converter
Date: 22 Oct 1998 01:16:58 GMT
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alec@lepton.phys.oxy.edu said:
>Can anyone point me to a pdf -> tiff converter for NS3.3?
Uh, which direction do you want to go?
TIFF -> PDF can be done with any bitmap editing/viewing/printing application
and Frank Siegert's wonderful pStill.app, available at <www.this.net/~frank>
PDF -> TIFF is a somewhat tougher (and more expensive) nut to crack. The only
tool which I can think of which could do it with any degree of control would be
OneVision, <http://onevision.de> (may need a www at the beginning of that). Of
course, any one of the PDF viewing applications would allow one to do a screen
capture of a PDF using Grab, but that's not exactly useful I'd guess.
PDFView.app (or is it PDFViewer?) allows one to export .eps files of the pages
of a TIFF. I guess one could then use Preview.app (or aren't there command line
tools for this) or GhostScript to convert those into TIFFs.
Actually, now that I think of it, GhostScript can probably do this conversion
directly.
William
William Adams
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DSP for speech synthesis?
Date: 20 Oct 1998 17:58:08 GMT
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In article <70h1h8$n2k$3@eve.enteract.com> rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT writes:
>i found an shell app that did this long ago. i could start it up, type some
>text, then type a period and enter and it would use the DSP to generate the
>sound. now i can not find that app anywhere. anyone remember this. it was not
>a dot app gui, pnt and click app, but something i ran from a shell.
This Canadian company had/has a product that uses DSP on the NeXT hardware
to do text-to-speech synthesis (last heard from in June 1995). They did have
an .app called BigMouth which used a OO server that can actually be used
from any app or process.
Trillium Sound Research Inc.
1500, 112 - 4th Ave. S.W.
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
T2P 0H3
Telephone: (403) 284-9278
Fax: (403) 282-6778
Order Desk: 1-800-567-2867
E-mail: info@trillium.ab.ca
You might also be thinking of "rsynth" however which was command line
only. Look for rsynth-2.0.tar.gz in the archives. However, I don't think
this relied on the DSP at all. This came as source+dictionary data
distribution.
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I'll have to second that one. I thank the Omni group for making a
web browser, but Netscape would be far superior. It's SGML to RTF
that other people mentioned is a little bothersome, but that's not
what gets me. OmniWeb tends to take up hard disk space that it
never releases until a restart (on MacOS X Server as well), and it
keeps on growing the longer you use it. When I had a 250MB drive
in my NeXTStation, I often had error messages from NeXTStep saying
I ran out of hard disk space, and would have to restart. It would
end up taking 40-50MB of HD space over an hour or two.
-- John
--------------
>
> Omniweb? You have got to be kidding. I still use Netsurfer, Omniweb is
> intolerable. I would kill for a Netscape port.
>
> spagiola@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > Why bother? Omniweb already provides a perfectly good web browser for
> > NeXTSTEP.
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From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Driver hacking
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:00:27 +0200
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Robert Forsyth wrote:
>
> It is possible, you need to get hold of the writer of the driver; the
> normal Intel video drivers have a fixed table of resolutions and refresh
> rate coded in to the driver code.
> The old Viper (Wietek 9000) had lots of files defining the modes, but no
> explination as to how to change them.
> Some of the newer drivers from Apple use the VBIOS to set the mode, so
> you are stuck with the (VESA) modes in the video BIOS. I not been able
> to get any of these drivers to work; calling a Windows oriented VBIOS is
> probmatic activity, even Linux fails on this.
> Some video cards are strange, they will only work at certain resolutions
> (eg 640, 800, 1024, 1280), but most it is just a matter of programming
> the dot clock to the right frequency and setting the width and height,
> then telling Openstep what you have done.
>
Hi,
Thanks for the info, the reason i'm asking this is that i'm trying to
get a HP98751A screen working on my intel box. This screen requires
sync-on-green @ 1024x768 @ 48 kHz x 60 Hz. I now have a Matrox
Millennium card that can do sync on green but i have to do some hacking
there. However, from the table i can pick the right mod, so we're making
progress.
Bye,
Marcel
From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT? [omniweb]
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:03:43 +0200
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Christian Jensen wrote:
>
> You (rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com <rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com>) wrote
> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 21 Oct 1998 21:07:11 GMT:
> > what is wrong with omniweb? just wondering.
>
> I have no experience with the newer, OpenStep-only versions, but the 2.x
Openstep 4.2 only versions you mean. I'm running 4.1 and i'm stuck with
the same shitty Omniweb 2.7.
Marcel
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compatibility between OS4 and MacOSX Server
Date: 21 Oct 98 12:54:12
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In-reply-to: phy070@spo109's message of 12 Oct 1998 11:07:39 GMT
In article <6vsntr$b2u8@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de>,
phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) writes:
This gives raise to the hope (and now I'll come back to the remark
above), that it is true, what a nice soul said about the developer
release 2 (DR2) of Rhapsody, namely, that by copying some files
(mainly shared libs) over from OPENSTEP 4.x, for him it was
possible to execute nearly every (common) OPENSTEP as well as
NEXTSTEP (binary) application. No one confirmed this until now, I'm
sorry to say; but hope exists.
The apps (meaning AppKit-based, window-using executables) which I've
done this to ran - but sometimes badly. I don't think I'd rely on it
being workable unless I've tested specific apps with it.
Also, I did it with NeXTSTEP3.3 compiled apps, and the NS3.3 shlibs.
Essentially the hack that got Icon working under NS3.3/m68k. I'm less
certain about OpenStep apps, because they'll have significant overlap
with Rhapsody shlibs. It may be possible with appropriate
manipulation of the framework references, though, since OpenStep
frameworks live in /NextLibrary/Frameworks, while Rhapsody frameworks
live in /System/Frameworks or somesuch.
Later,
--
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Subject: Re: IT EXISTS!! Re: Openstep on Solaris
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <362dc814.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 21 Oct 98 11:40:04 GMT
phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) wrote:
>Sven Droll (sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de) wrote:
>: [...]
>: Openstep 4.2 only ruins on the Sparc 4 to 20.
>
>I hope that ^^^^^ to mean *run* :-).
=:o)
Sven (always in hurry)
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From: Andrew Robertson <Andrew.Robertson@fmr.com>
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Subject: Framemaker registration code
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Does anyone know if Adobe still issues registration codes for
Framemaker? I asked a friend at Adobe and he did not think so. I had a
legal academic copy as well as one provided by NeXT when I was a Campus
Consultant but 2 HDs later I have lost the license string. Thanks,
--Andrew--
Needless to say, most appz sites don't list NeXT info....
From: Subir Grewal <sg18@duke.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXFax licenses
Date: 22 Oct 1998 14:25:58 GMT
Organization: Trill Host Selection Committee
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User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980226 (UNIX) (SunOS/5.5.1 (sun4u))
Hi,
I've been trying to contact Black & White Software, the publishers of
NXFax, to see if I can purchase a license, and have had no luck. Any
clue as to whether they are still around? I have the phone number
802.496.8500 and the e-mail address nxfax@bandw.com (no MX or address
entry for that host in DNS).
--
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From: Michael_Humphries-Dolnick.nospam@wdr.com (Michael Humphries-Dolnick)
Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:26:50 GMT
In article <7086if$18v$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> petcher@howdy.wustl.edu
(Donald N. Petcher) writes:
[SNIP]
> I haven't followed this carefully. You mean their *default* file type is
> supposed to be HTML/XML? That would be a dramatic shift! I'm all for it.
That's what I've heard as well, but one rumor monger I spoke to said that
it will, as usual, be an MS-bastardized XML, which (depending on the level
of proprietary-ness) puts it back into the same ballpark as RTF.
> What about Excel? I also get those files in the mail. Do they have plans
to
> move those files to a standard?
It's possible, but I haven't heard anything from MS about it. In theory,
the basic table structure and data could be put into HTML, with formulas
and so forth just ending up as mostly useless data, which you would have
to purchase either a converter or Excel to use.
--
Michael Humphries-Dolnick
"My opinions, not my employer's"
From: salvadorej@mailcity.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Multitrack Recording Software?
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:59:02 GMT
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I'm looking for Multitrack recording/mixing software
that would work with a slab running NS 3.x. Anyone
know of anything that would fit the bill?
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT? [omniweb]
Date: 22 Oct 1998 18:19:04 GMT
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In <70lidv$l32$1@eve.enteract.com> rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com wrote:
> In <362E4B97.AB5E5068@home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
> [>]Omniweb? You have got to be kidding. I still use Netsurfer, Omniweb is
> [>]intolerable. I would kill for a Netscape port.
>
> what is wrong with omniweb? just wondering.
No Real Audio, no Java(script), no ShockWave, no RealVideo.
Even with the 4.2 version.
RealAudio hasn't made their info available, so that's not OmniGroup's fault.
I understand that JavaScript isn't very well documented/solidified yet, so
OmniGroup isn't taking time that they don't have to spend on it.
I prefer OW's GUI and functionality over NetScape, but there are more and
more features that are making it harder to use OpenStep on the web.
TjL
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From: ff48@columbia.edu (Frederic Foucault)
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Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:36:11 -0400
Organization: Columbia University
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In article <1998Oct21.172650.1225@il.us.swissbank.com>,
Michael_Humphries-Dolnick.nospam@wdr.com wrote:
> In article <7086if$18v$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> petcher@howdy.wustl.edu
> (Donald N. Petcher) writes:
> [SNIP]
> > I haven't followed this carefully. You mean their *default* file type is
> > supposed to be HTML/XML? That would be a dramatic shift! I'm all for it.
> That's what I've heard as well, but one rumor monger I spoke to said that
> it will, as usual, be an MS-bastardized XML, which (depending on the level
> of proprietary-ness) puts it back into the same ballpark as RTF.
>
> > What about Excel? I also get those files in the mail. Do they have plans
> to
> > move those files to a standard?
>
> It's possible, but I haven't heard anything from MS about it. In theory,
> the basic table structure and data could be put into HTML, with formulas
> and so forth just ending up as mostly useless data, which you would have
> to purchase either a converter or Excel to use.
>
> --
> Michael Humphries-Dolnick
> "My opinions, not my employer's"
Well, The free Lighthouse Quantrix version 2.4 can exchange *.xls files
with Excel version 4.0 & 5.0. I remember seeing a converter of Quantrix
tables to html on a ftp site not long ago. Hope this can help a little.
Sincerely,
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Omniweb? You have got to be kidding. I still use Netsurfer, Omniweb is
intolerable. I would kill for a Netscape port.
spagiola@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Why bother? Omniweb already provides a perfectly good web browser for
> NeXTSTEP.
From: rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT? [omniweb]
Date: 21 Oct 1998 21:07:11 GMT
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In <362E4B97.AB5E5068@home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
[>]Omniweb? You have got to be kidding. I still use Netsurfer, Omniweb is
[>]intolerable. I would kill for a Netscape port.
what is wrong with omniweb? just wondering.
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From: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT?
Date: 21 Oct 1998 17:17:05 -0400
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spagiola@my-dejanews.com writes:
> westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin) wrote:
> > Well, I couldn't find any mention of NeXT there; I did dredge up
> > <http://www.mozilla.org/ports/rhapsody/>, concerning an effort to port
> > to Rhapsody. Their strategy seems to include first an X-based port,
> > then Yellow Box. Which I guess holds out some hope for NeXT
> > compatibility.
>
> Why bother? Omniweb already provides a perfectly good web browser for
> NeXTSTEP.
Uh, kinda slow (all HTML seems to be converted to RTF before I get to
see it). No Java.
> I'd like to see Netscape on OSX and OSXS because of what that would
> mean for support of those OSs, but from all I've seen of recent Omniweb
> versions, I probably won't use Netscape under OSXS even if its available.
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From: cejensen@winternet.com (Christian Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT?
Date: 23 Oct 1998 00:12:37 GMT
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You (Christian Jensen <cejensen@winternet.com>) wrote
in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 22 Oct 1998 00:06:09 GMT:
> it looks like it's going to happen!
I just had to check into this further: I called Netscape today, got transferred around 'til I got through to someone who at least knew what UNIX is, and explained that I was looking for the NEXTSTEP 3.3 version of Communicator 4.5 on the Netscape ftp site. After he audibly scratched his head over that ("Neckstep? Is that some sorta Windows program?"), I explained further, he put me on hold, then came back and indicated that the remaining six "unsupported" versions of Communicator 4.5 will be appearing on the Netscape ftp site "within the next 5-10 days" (15 of the 21 packages advertised for "unsupported" platforms are already there). Not exactly a ringing, definite affirmative, but still... far from a "forget it".
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From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backspace fat modules
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:24:31 +0000
Organization: Forsee with Style
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Is this an echo?
If and when you use Installer.app then you must check each architecture
you wish to install (or use). The default is just to install the
architecture of the machine that Installer is running on.
With apps you get the faded icon when the architecture of the machine is
not in the app bundle.
There are (were) some command line tools for playing with the
architecture; have a look at the MANuals (in man).
dan@madhatter.physics.ucsb.edu wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> We've recently added a number of Intel Openstep 4.2 machines to our network of
> Black hardware running 3.0. We've had one annoying (though purely esthetic)
> problem with Backspace 3.01. Although the application is fat, the old modules
> we have are not. I downloaded some new versions of the modules from peak, and
> although they appear to be fat, they only run on the Intel machines, not on the
> 68K ones. Am I missing something obvious?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dan Murphy
> dan@madhatter.physics.ucsb.edu
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From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for plotting software!
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:30:35 +0000
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I think there is something on the demo CD that came with Openstep
(Objectware? was called Third Party on NS).
TjL wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a (hopefully free) application which I can use to create a
> bar graph.
>
> There are 6 people who have scores between 1-99
>
> I would like to be able to make graphs based on the data in this format:
>
> (assuming Bob had a 10, Tom a 30, Bill a 20, and Carol a 10)
>
> x
> x x
> x x x x
> Bob Tom Bill Carol
>
> Is there something like that out there? There are a lot of plotting apps out
> there, but I've never used any of them.
>
> TjL
>
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From: cejensen@winternet.com (Christian Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT? [omniweb]
Date: 22 Oct 1998 00:15:56 GMT
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You (rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com <rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com>) wrote
in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 21 Oct 1998 21:07:11 GMT:
> what is wrong with omniweb? just wondering.
I have no experience with the newer, OpenStep-only versions, but the 2.x versions for NEXTSTEP have the following flaws (IMHO, of course):
1.) Somewhat flaky HTML support (pages don't display correctly, etc)
2.) Slow display ("SGMLtoRTF Running"... and running...)
3.) Occasional overall flakiness, crashing, instability...
Don't get me wrong, I use OW all the time, and like a lot of its features. I wish development had continued for NS, but Omni Development isn't a big software company and can't devote resources on software for "dead" OS's (this is my take anyway).
Pray for that Netscape port! :-)
--Chris
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From: rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Framemaker registration code
Date: 23 Oct 1998 05:12:56 GMT
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In <362F3673.F6AD1D08@fmr.com> Andrew Robertson wrote:
[>]Does anyone know if Adobe still issues registration codes for
[>]Framemaker? I asked a friend at Adobe and he did not think so. I had a
[>]legal academic copy as well as one provided by NeXT when I was a Campus
[>]Consultant but 2 HDs later I have lost the license string. Thanks,
[>] --Andrew--
[>]Needless to say, most appz sites don't list NeXT info....
i read somewhere it is easy to crack with gdb i believe. if i ever find the
url i will post it.
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax licenses
Date: 22 Oct 1998 15:27:07 GMT
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They did not have enough paying customers to stay afloat.
Their 800# and domain name went offline.
You can find a trial license string at
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/comm/NXFax/
but if you use it you should send in the small registration fee to the snail
mail address listed there.
TjL
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From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
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Subject: Re: Framemaker registration code
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:17:11 +0200
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rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com wrote:
>
> In <362F3673.F6AD1D08@fmr.com> Andrew Robertson wrote:
> [>]Does anyone know if Adobe still issues registration codes for
> [>]Framemaker? I asked a friend at Adobe and he did not think so. I had a
> [>]legal academic copy as well as one provided by NeXT when I was a Campus
> [>]Consultant but 2 HDs later I have lost the license string. Thanks,
> [>] --Andrew--
> [>]Needless to say, most appz sites don't list NeXT info....
>
> i read somewhere it is easy to crack with gdb i believe. if i ever find the
> url i will post it.
>
Now that's the spirit!
Marcel
From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Framemaker registration code
Date: 22 Oct 1998 15:30:06 GMT
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In <362F3673.F6AD1D08@fmr.com> Andrew Robertson wrote:
> Does anyone know if Adobe still issues registration codes for
> Framemaker?
Framemaker for NeXT is in a black hole.
No one wants to claim responsibility for it (OmniGroup can't, Lighthouse is
gone, and Adobe doesn't care) but no one has issued any free single user
licenses for it. As far as I know no one has gotten very far in finding any
clueful people either.
Similar to WP for NeXT, the company has changed names, and the product is not
being developed, but it still is their legal property.
TjL
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From: laurentpignans@my-dejanews.com
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Subject: Re: Framemaker registration code
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:45:41 GMT
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In article <70p38o$l32$2@eve.enteract.com>,
rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com wrote:
> In <362F3673.F6AD1D08@fmr.com> Andrew Robertson wrote:
> [>]Does anyone know if Adobe still issues registration codes for
> [>]Framemaker? I asked a friend at Adobe and he did not think so. I had a
> [>]legal academic copy as well as one provided by NeXT when I was a Campus
> [>]Consultant but 2 HDs later I have lost the license string. Thanks,
> [>] --Andrew--
> [>]Needless to say, most appz sites don't list NeXT info....
>
> i read somewhere it is easy to crack with gdb i believe. if i ever find the
> url i will post it.
>
Have a look at :
ttp://www.magnnet.com/Homes/enabling.html
L.C
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From: "Michael A. Thompson" <mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>
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Subject: Re: Virtual PC & NS3.3
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:26:29 -0700
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msms wrote:
>
> And do you remember where you got these driver updates?
>
> -- John
NeXTAnswers...... at that time it was http://www.next.com
Michael
>
> ------------------
> >
> > Last year, before I sold my last Mac I managed to install NS3.3 on
> > VPC1.0. It was a pain but it finally worked... I wish I could remember
> > what I did.... I think that there is one CD-ROM driver that will see the
> > CD-ROM in VPC even though its an IDE.... I do remember downloading a few
> > driver updates to the floppy installer for NS3.3.
> >
> > Micahel
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From: mdadgar@apple.com (Mark Dadgar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Virtual PC & NS3.3
Date: 23 Oct 1998 17:55:28 GMT
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In article <3630BC45.F2E5B6D9@jove.acs.unt.edu> "Michael A. Thompson"
<mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> writes:
> msms wrote:
> >
> > And do you remember where you got these driver updates?
> >
> > -- John
>
> NeXTAnswers...... at that time it was http://www.next.com
Still is. It redirects to Apple Enterprise Software.
- Mark
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Framemaker registration code
Date: 23 Oct 1998 11:32:53 GMT
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In <70pfnl$tab$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> laurentpignans@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <70p38o$l32$2@eve.enteract.com>,
> rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com wrote:
> > i read somewhere it is easy to crack with gdb i believe. if i ever find
the
> > url i will post it.
> >
>
> Have a look at :
> ttp://www.magnnet.com/Homes/enabling.html
I think that is only for m68k machines, but I could be wrong.
TjL
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From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang)
Subject: What's the most stable PPP release?
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I still have problem with PPP panicing. This is really annoying that
you'll have to boot the machine.
So, what release is the most stable? I do not need new features,
just plain PPP connection.
From: ff48@columbia.edu (Frederic Foucault)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's the most stable PPP release?
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:05:29 -0400
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In article <F1A6Hw.Krq@midway.uchicago.edu>, tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu
(Andrew Chang) wrote:
> I still have problem with PPP panicing. This is really annoying that
> you'll have to boot the machine.
>
> So, what release is the most stable? I do not need new features,
> just plain PPP connection.
Hi,
I still think that PPP2.2 is the most stable and I don't know whether some
latter versions are more stable than this one. The panic are not frequent.
I remember that he last panic I had was one month ago.
Sincerely,
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From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
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Subject: Re: What's the most stable PPP release?
Date: 23 Oct 1998 20:55:34 GMT
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In <F1A6Hw.Krq@midway.uchicago.edu> Andrew Chang wrote:
>
> I still have problem with PPP panicing. This is really annoying that
> you'll have to boot the machine.
I am using 2.3.0 on my Intel 4.2 and 2.3.5 on my m68k 3.3 machine and have
not had any panics at all.
Make sure you are not going above 38400 with non-turbo hardware.
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From: jmeacham@wittgenstein.jhuccp.org (James D. Meacham)
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Subject: Anyone got the Msql adapter working on Black NS/OS 4.2?
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Hi All,
I'm trying to build a WebObject app which uses Msql as it's back-end storage
mechanism. Problem is, I can't get the damn Msql adapter to compile. Has
anyone managed to get a black binary of this? Please let me know if you
have, 'cause I'd love tp get my hands on one. Thanks
James
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Subject: Re: Framemaker registration code
Date: 24 Oct 1998 16:40:45 GMT
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References: <362F3673.F6AD1D08@fmr.com>
In Framemaker registration code comp.sys.next.software Andrew Robertson <Andrew.Robertson@fmr.com> writes,
> Does anyone know if Adobe still issues registration codes for
> Framemaker? I asked a friend at Adobe and he did not think so. I had a
> legal academic copy as well as one provided by NeXT when I was a Campus
> Consultant but 2 HDs later I have lost the license string. Thanks,
> --Andrew--
> Needless to say, most appz sites don't list NeXT info....
Same thing for SoftPC -- no one wants to cough up a lic. ! A mystery to me, since they could just make money for nothing anyway by selling licenses to us...
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openwrite converter for MS word 97
Date: 24 Oct 1998 17:40:49 GMT
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References: <7086if$18v$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> <1998Oct21.172650.1225@il.us.swissbank.com> <ff48-ya02408000R2210981736110001@news.columbia.edu>
In article <ff48-ya02408000R2210981736110001@news.columbia.edu>,
Frederic Foucault <ff48@columbia.edu> wrote:
>In article <1998Oct21.172650.1225@il.us.swissbank.com>,
>Michael_Humphries-Dolnick.nospam@wdr.com wrote:
>
>> In article <7086if$18v$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> petcher@howdy.wustl.edu
>> (Donald N. Petcher) writes:
>> [SNIP]
[SNIP]
>> It's possible, but I haven't heard anything from MS about it. In theory,
>> the basic table structure and data could be put into HTML, with formulas
>> and so forth just ending up as mostly useless data, which you would have
>> to purchase either a converter or Excel to use.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Humphries-Dolnick
>> "My opinions, not my employer's"
>
>
>Well, The free Lighthouse Quantrix version 2.4 can exchange *.xls files
>with Excel version 4.0 & 5.0. I remember seeing a converter of Quantrix
>tables to html on a ftp site not long ago. Hope this can help a little.
>
>Sincerely,
>
'fraid not. The problem is the current version of MS Office. (I have
Quantrix and used to use it to read older versions.) I could read the
word/excel files being sent up until sometime last year , when people
started upgrading to Office '97, but after that I have found no translators.
Guess that will teach me to keep using an almost six year old computer. But
then again, I still LIKE it.
--Don Petcher
From: Mark Becker <mbecker@uml.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: GCC 2.8.1 on NS 2.1
Date: 24 Oct 1998 15:43:27 GMT
Organization: Computer Aided Engineering Design Center
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I've been trying to get gcc 2.8.1 compiled on my NS 2.1 system.. but
the stage1 make fails at the step shown below. Has anyone succeeded?
A report was sent to two gnu gcc lists.. but no responses.
Here is the short-form report:
Platform: NextStep 2.1, 68030-based. configure correctly determines that this
system is m68k-next-nextstep2 .
Problem: Multiply defined same-name symbols in libgcc.a on first-pass
compile.
Help?
Regards,
Mark
if [ -f /usr/bin/ranlib -o -f /bin/ranlib ] ; then ranlib tmplibgcc.a; else true; fi
ranlib: same symbol defined in more than one member in: tmplibgcc.a (table of contents will not be sorted)
symbol: __GLOBAL_$F$._libgcc2.c defined in: _ctors.o
symbol: __GLOBAL_$F$._libgcc2.c defined in: _fixunstfdi.o
symbol: __GLOBAL_$F$._libgcc2.c defined in: _fixtfdi.o
symbol: __GLOBAL_$F$._libgcc2.c defined in: _floatditf.o
symbol: __GLOBAL_$F$._libgcc2.c defined in: _shtab.o
mv tmplibgcc.a libgcc.a
./xgcc -B./ -DIN_GCC -g -I./include enquire.o -o enquire
/bin/ld: warning table of contents of library: ./libgcc.a not sorted slower link editing will result (use the ranlib(1) -s option)
/bin/ld: warning table of contents of library: ./libgcc.a not sorted slower link editing will result (use the ranlib(1) -s option)
/bin/ld: multiple definitions of symbol ___CTOR_LIST__
/usr/tmp/cc012426.o definition of ___CTOR_LIST__ in section (__DATA,__data)
./libgcc.a(_ctors.o) definition of ___CTOR_LIST__ in section (__DATA,__data)
/bin/ld: multiple definitions of symbol ___DTOR_LIST__
/usr/tmp/cc012426.o definition of ___DTOR_LIST__ in section (__DATA,__data)
./libgcc.a(_ctors.o) definition of ___DTOR_LIST__ in section (__DATA,__data)
/bin/ld: warning table of contents of library: ./libgcc.a not sorted slower link editing will result (use the ranlib(1) -s option)
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [enquire] Error 1
Here is the result of running nm(1) on the offending members of libgcc2.a:
_ctors.o:
00000000 T __GLOBAL_$F$._libgcc2.c
00000018 D ___CTOR_LIST__
00000020 D ___DTOR_LIST__
00000000 t ___FRAME_BEGIN__
_fixtfdi.o:
00000000 D __GLOBAL_$F$._libgcc2.c
00000000 d ___FRAME_BEGIN__
_fixunstfdi.o:
00000000 D __GLOBAL_$F$._libgcc2.c
00000000 d ___FRAME_BEGIN__
_floatditf.o:
00000000 D __GLOBAL_$F$._libgcc2.c
00000000 d ___FRAME_BEGIN__
_shtab.o:
00000000 T __GLOBAL_$F$._libgcc2.c
00000000 t ___FRAME_BEGIN__
00000018 D ___shtab
-----
From: robertw@hotmail.com (Robert Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Framemaker registration code
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:14:50 GMT
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In <362F3673.F6AD1D08@fmr.com> Andrew Robertson wrote:
> Does anyone know if Adobe still issues registration codes for
> Framemaker? I asked a friend at Adobe and he did not think so. I had a
> legal academic copy as well as one provided by NeXT when I was a Campus
> Consultant but 2 HDs later I have lost the license string. Thanks,
> --Andrew--
> Needless to say, most appz sites don't list NeXT info....
>
>
Personally I don't understand the following due to a lack of technical
knowledge, but perhabs it may be useful for someone.
Framemaker 3.0.1 / Next / m68k :
On Adress 0x16c17c (tstl @#0x1d0fd0) change 'tstl' ( 0x4A) into 'clrl' (ox42)
From: x@DIESPAMsonyx.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DSP for speech synthesis?
Date: 24 Oct 1998 16:35:46 GMT
Message-ID: <70svl2$5fk$3@autumn.news.rcn.net>
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In Re: DSP for speech synthesis? comp.sys.next.software izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes,
> In article <70h1h8$n2k$3@eve.enteract.com> rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT writes:
>>i found an shell app that did this long ago. i could start it up, type some
>>text, then type a period and enter and it would use the DSP to generate the
>>sound. now i can not find that app anywhere. anyone remember this. it was not
>>a dot app gui, pnt and click app, but something i ran from a shell.
>
> This Canadian company had/has a product that uses DSP on the NeXT hardware
> to do text-to-speech synthesis (last heard from in June 1995). They did have
> an .app called BigMouth which used a OO server that can actually be used
> from any app or process.
>
> Trillium Sound Research Inc.
> 1500, 112 - 4th Ave. S.W.
> Calgary, Alberta, Canada
> T2P 0H3
>
> Telephone: (403) 284-9278
> Fax: (403) 282-6778
> Order Desk: 1-800-567-2867
> E-mail: info@trillium.ab.ca
>
> You might also be thinking of "rsynth" however which was command line
> only. Look for rsynth-2.0.tar.gz in the archives. However, I don't think
> this relied on the DSP at all. This came as source+dictionary data
> distribution.
>
I have the rsynth thingy, and it does work very well, albeit not in real time. But it works very well, and was simple to build. It is running on NeXT HW.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
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Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
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Date: 25 Oct 1998 03:47:04 GMT
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Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
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else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
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Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
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regional newsgroups.
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For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
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Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
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INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
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Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
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From: Chad Wagner <chad.wagner@nettime.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax licenses
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:55:12 -0700
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I thought I would give NXFax a try.
I have been unable to get it working my Zoom VFX 14.4V.
Outgoing faxes work fine, but incoming faxes do not work reliable.
The first page normally comes in scrambled, the second is normally ok.
I have checked my cable and my modem settings.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks.
From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wherefore Illustrator?
Date: 26 Oct 1998 04:05:45 GMT
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Someone mentioned an app called "Illustrator" recently, but I can't find any
mention of it.... anyone know where I can find it?
TjL, wondering how many apps are out there that few people even know exist
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From: jehrlich@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Scott Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wherefore Illustrator?
Date: 26 Oct 1998 04:21:12 GMT
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TjL (luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed) wrote:
: Someone mentioned an app called "Illustrator" recently, but I can't find any
: mention of it.... anyone know where I can find it?
Yah, ie, Adobe Illustrator. It was available for NeXT once upon a time.
I think William Adams could provide more info (I know so, since I was
just emailing him about it :) but...well, it's Illustrator, only several
versions behind the current Mac and PC editions. The native use of
PostScript in the NeXT OS of course made it very nice at the time.
It obviously would be somewhat lacking in features by "today's standards"
although who knows how many of those extra features are very useful ;)
Dunno where one could get a copy of it, though!
jason
From: Greg Shaw <gshaw@zeta.org.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: cube and mac tiny ethernet setup
Date: 26 Oct 1998 12:19:31 GMT
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In <3633FE05.8A4575CB@cdsnet.net> dave cunningham wrote:
> i have a cube and a mac hooked together through a 10T hub, and would
> like them to talk to each other so that i can get mac files over to the
> NeXT printer, and possible NeXT files over to the mac for
>
> they both show as live on the hub display, but i'm at a loss at how to
> get them to see each other. any assistance would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> -=c'ham=-
>
>
Dave,
What I have just done is to download and run CAPer.app on my NSFIP3.3 system.
I have successfully got files between the two systems. I have other
problems that prevent me from printing but I am reasonably happy that it will
work.
CAPer.app can be retrieved from www.this.net/~frank. I would happily
recommend it. I don't know if there is a black version of it. Check it out.
Cheers, Greg Shaw.
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From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang)
Subject: Re: NXFax licenses
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:04:09 GMT
In article <3633F29F.54D28649@nettime.com>,
Chad Wagner <chad.wagner@nettime.com> wrote:
>I thought I would give NXFax a try.
>I have been unable to get it working my Zoom VFX 14.4V.
>Outgoing faxes work fine, but incoming faxes do not work reliable.
>The first page normally comes in scrambled, the second is normally ok.
>I have checked my cable and my modem settings.
>
>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
This is why you'll need a ZyXEL :-)
From: dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright)
Subject: Re: Netscape on NeXT? [omniweb]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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Date: 26 Oct 1998 14:24:59 +0500
TjL (luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed) wrote:
> In <70lidv$l32$1@eve.enteract.com> rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com wrote:
> > In <362E4B97.AB5E5068@home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
> > [>]Omniweb? You have got to be kidding. I still use Netsurfer, Omniweb is
> > [>]intolerable. I would kill for a Netscape port.
> >
> > what is wrong with omniweb? just wondering.
> No Real Audio, no Java(script), no ShockWave, no RealVideo.
> Even with the 4.2 version.
> RealAudio hasn't made their info available, so that's not OmniGroup's fault.
> I understand that JavaScript isn't very well documented/solidified yet, so
> OmniGroup isn't taking time that they don't have to spend on it.
> I prefer OW's GUI and functionality over NetScape, but there are more and
> more features that are making it harder to use OpenStep on the web.
Agreed, I was die hard NS 3.3 user until this time last year, and my slab
and OW just got to be too cumbersome. Let's see what a linux / netbsd
port brings us.
-Darren
From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Framemaker registration code
Date: 24 Oct 1998 22:32:54 GMT
Organization: would be nice
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In <70svud$5fk$4@autumn.news.rcn.net> x@DIESPAMsonyx.com wrote:
> Same thing for SoftPC -- no one wants to cough up a lic. ! A mystery to me,
> since they could just make money for nothing anyway by selling licenses to
> us...
Yeah.... I could use one of those licenses as well... it would save a Win*
boot every now and again....
It's getting sadder to be a part of the NeXT community.
TjL
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From: ginz <ginz1@juno.com>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstepcomp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LogOn and PPP problems
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 17:16:49 -0600
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To: David Hill <daveyohill@earthlink.nospam.net>
Your problem is the cable.
The pin outs are different on the Mac modem cable.
You could buy one from DeepSpace Technologies or
build your own. Or follow this link and build your own.
http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution6.html
Hope this helps.
Carl...
David Hill wrote:
> I'm sure someone can help me out here...
>
> I have recently begun setting up a NeXT Turbo Color slab, and have
> downloaded and installed PPP 2.3.5-0.5.1. Both PPP and LogOn_00.94b were
> installed under "root" login. Installations went smooth with no errors.
> When I restart or power up, just before the NeXT login screen, text in
> Mach startup says that PPP was "correctly attached". I'm using a USR 33.6
> Sportster and a Mac cable. The FAQ's (Peanuts) said " go ahead" and try
> the cable. I've tried connections to both serial ports "A" and "B".
>
> Both PPPstats.app and LogON_009.94b folder are in LocalApps.
>
> Whenever I try to launch LogOn or (PPP for that matter) the app begins
> opening and shuts down immiediately.
>
> I'm sure being a NeXT newbie that I've missed something.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> David,
>
> Remove ".nospam" to reply
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wherefore Illustrator?
Date: 26 Oct 1998 17:34:50 GMT
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Yes, Illustrator was available for Black NeXT hardware, v3.0.2, I believe,
which dates it.
It was done back in a time when the Mac and PC versions of Illustrator couldn't
edit in Preview mode (though of course, they've since caught up).
They still can't display the effects of arbitrary PostScript code though, or
anything but the bitmapped preview of a placed .eps.
For those who don't follow graphics apps, Illustrator is now at v8 (only just
released). Things which've been added are mostly pretty superficial to my mind,
graphics "hoses", objects on a path, editable blends, etc.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wherefore Illustrator?
Date: 26 Oct 1998 13:53:14 GMT
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luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL) writes:
> Someone mentioned an app called "Illustrator" recently, but I can't find any
> mention of it.... anyone know where I can find it?
Adobe Illustrator - a fantasticly good app for black. I assume they still
do a PC version of it. The version for black was available all
over the place a few years back.
> TjL, wondering how many apps are out there that few people even know exist
Lots of old black commercial ones I'd imagine - there used to be quite a few
NeXT "warez" sites back in the early 90's which is probably the only hope for
getting running copies these days as a lot of these firms seem to have vanished
or don't seem interested in actually selling copies anymore. That irritates
the hell out of me actually - when I actually try and *pay* for something
and they won't take my money then I really don't see how they can complain
about ppl copying stuff (and this applies to ppl in the PC world as well).
-bat.
PS: bizzare subject line. I guess the answer would be "because it's a good
app..."
From: cbose@uvic.ca (chris bose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: which X-windows?
Date: 27 Oct 1998 03:57:58 GMT
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I am running a 25mhz cube system on which I would like to bring up
some sort of Xwindows to mesh with other unix machines in our department
I see quite a few different versions for next available via download.
Is there any one which would be deemed the best bet for my situation?
I don't want to spend a lot of time fussing with it. And I don't want
to spend ANY time fussing with a version which will never run properly
on my old machine!
Oh yes, I'm running OS 2.0 I think.
thanks, chris bose
From: rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Monster Shelf & Image Conversion
Date: 27 Oct 1998 04:01:37 GMT
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Does anyone know how to set a rootwindow / wallpaper while using /running
Monster Shelf? If I use toyviewer to set wallpaper, it covers up the icons on
my desktop.
btw - anyone know why ALL my screenshots converted on my slab [openstep4.2]
end up like this:
http://www.enteract.com/~eseale/10-20-98-v2.png
as you can see, it is very dark. ALL of my conversions to jpeg from Toyveiwer
or Wetpaint end up being really dark when viewed by say, my NT box, but they
look fine in Openstep.
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From: colin@logic.tamu.edu (Colin Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: cube and mac tiny ethernet setup
Date: 26 Oct 1998 16:56:47 -0600
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dave cunningham <cngnhmwa@cdsnet.net> wrote:
>they both show as live on the hub display, but i'm at a loss at how to
>get them to see each other. any assistance would be greatly
>appreciated.
Dave - I had similar problems yesterday until I added an entry for the
Mac in netinfo. I think you'll need to do that before you get the
higher level stuff like CAP'er to work.
Colin
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From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Framemaker registration code
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:01:17 +0100
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TjL wrote:
> In <70pfnl$tab$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> laurentpignans@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > In article <70p38o$l32$2@eve.enteract.com>,
> > rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com wrote:
>
> > > i read somewhere it is easy to crack with gdb i believe. if i ever find
> the
> > > url i will post it.
> > >
> >
> > Have a look at :
> > ttp://www.magnnet.com/Homes/enabling.html
>
> I think that is only for m68k machines, but I could be wrong.
>
A license code for a FrameMaker version for m68k machines works also perfectly
for an NS Intel FrameMaker version. At least I tested this some time ago under
NS 3.3 with my original FrameMaker 3.0 and 3.2 versions. So if you have access
to black hardware, you should be able to determine a Frame license code via the
method described on the "enabling.html" page and then use this license string
for Frame under NS Intel.
VKyr
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From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Andrew Knight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax licenses
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In <F1Ftr0.Lpx@midway.uchicago.edu> Andrew Chang wrote:
> In article <3633F29F.54D28649@nettime.com>,
> Chad Wagner <chad.wagner@nettime.com> wrote:
> >I thought I would give NXFax a try.
> >I have been unable to get it working my Zoom VFX 14.4V.
> >Outgoing faxes work fine, but incoming faxes do not work reliable.
> >The first page normally comes in scrambled, the second is normally ok.
> >I have checked my cable and my modem settings.
> This is why you'll need a ZyXEL :-)
Or a Multitech
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From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang)
Subject: Re: NXFax licenses
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References: <70nf9m$9kl$1@news.duke.edu> <3633F29F.54D28649@nettime.com> <F1Ftr0.Lpx@midway.uchicago.edu> <909479387.10923.0.nnrp-08.c30b1c0b@news.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:59:57 GMT
In article <909479387.10923.0.nnrp-08.c30b1c0b@news.demon.co.uk>,
David Andrew Knight <david@onestep.co.uk> wrote:
>In <F1Ftr0.Lpx@midway.uchicago.edu> Andrew Chang wrote:
>> In article <3633F29F.54D28649@nettime.com>,
>> Chad Wagner <chad.wagner@nettime.com> wrote:
>> >I thought I would give NXFax a try.
>> >I have been unable to get it working my Zoom VFX 14.4V.
>> >Outgoing faxes work fine, but incoming faxes do not work reliable.
>> >The first page normally comes in scrambled, the second is normally ok.
>> >I have checked my cable and my modem settings.
>
>> This is why you'll need a ZyXEL :-)
>
>Or a Multitech
>
>--
>Regards David Knight
>OneStep Solutions Plc
>
well, i have a multitech 2834BA (?) and i could not even get it work
ppp. maybe it should work, but certainly not worth the time to me :-)
i gave it away to use with Wintel.
maybe the newer multitech works better...
From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Monster Shelf & Image Conversion
Date: 27 Oct 1998 19:16:24 GMT
Organization: MiscKit Development
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rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com wrote:
> btw - anyone know why ALL my screenshots converted on my slab
> [openstep4.2] end up like this: http://www.enteract.com/~eseale/10-20-
> 98-v2.png
>
> as you can see, it is very dark. ALL of my conversions to jpeg from
> Toyveiwer or Wetpaint end up being really dark when viewed by say, my
> NT box, but they look fine in Openstep. --
You need to tweak the gamma of the images (ie, "gamma correction"). NeXT's
use a gamma of 1.0 (and I think Macs do too) in the images and the display
software and hardware do an automatic gamma correction to adjust for your
monitor's gamma but Winblows boxes build the monitor's gamma into the images
themselves, since Winblows is too stupid to know anything about device
independence. Thus, to look good on those systems, you have to run an image
through gamma correction. Too bad WetPaint's built in filters don't do it,
but there is one in the GifOMatic program. You could draw an (imperfect)
gamma curve in WetPaint's first filter (the one that does contrast, etc.) and
that would probably be good enough for most things...or just use TIFFany or a
program that does gammas. The pbmplus utilities would be a command line
based alternative and can do gamma, I believe...
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com
<a href="http://www.yacktman.org/don/index.html">My home page</a>
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From: chwe@uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Subject: mail handling with "vanity" domain name?
Message-ID: <chwe-2710981548540001@chwe2.spc.uchicago.edu>
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:48:54 GMT
Hello all,
I am trying to use my Nextstation (with Nextstep 3.0) as a web server and
mail forwarder. Just for fun, I had a "vanity" domain registered to it
(it was previously chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu; now it is also chwe.net).
Telnetting to chwe.net and http calls to chwe.net work great, but I was
hoping that mail to user1@chwe.net would automatically get sent to
user1@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu. So far it does not, and I have no idea why
not---mail sent to user1@chwe.net does not get bounced back either. I
think there must be some sort of configuration issue here, but I do not
know enough to tell. Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated---please send email to chwe@uchicago.edu.
Thanks in advance,
Michael
From: cdvorak@earthlink.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax licenses
Date: 27 Oct 1998 14:33:04 GMT
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Cc: david@onestep.co.uk
I encountered the scrambled-first-page phenomenon of incoming NXFaxes when I
first
installed my SupraFax 33.6 . I found that by opening the document in
PixelMagician (or
any other photo program, the aspect ratio was exactly 1:2 width:height. In
PixelMagician
by rescaling the document using the Scale panel (proportional off, Width
200%, Height 100%),
the document read correctly.
This got the current document to read correctly, and eventually I got the
NXFax and SupraFax
to communicate properly. Unfortunately that was long ago and I don't remember
what that took.
Sorry...
cdvorak
In <909479387.10923.0.nnrp-08.c30b1c0b@news.demon.co.uk> David Andrew Knight
wrote:
> In <F1Ftr0.Lpx@midway.uchicago.edu> Andrew Chang wrote:
> > In article <3633F29F.54D28649@nettime.com>,
> > Chad Wagner <chad.wagner@nettime.com> wrote:
> > >I thought I would give NXFax a try.
> > >I have been unable to get it working my Zoom VFX 14.4V.
> > >Outgoing faxes work fine, but incoming faxes do not work reliable.
> > >The first page normally comes in scrambled, the second is normally ok.
> > >I have checked my cable and my modem settings.
>
> > This is why you'll need a ZyXEL :-)
>
> Or a Multitech
>
>
From: Jean-Paul Samson <jeanpaul@cs.ualberta.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Monster Shelf & Image Conversion
Date: 28 Oct 1998 09:08:53 GMT
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>You need to tweak the gamma of the images (ie, "gamma correction").
>Too bad WetPaint's built in filters don't do it,
>but there is one in the GifOMatic program.
Can PixelNhance do it? I specifically asked Ralf if PixelNhance could
do gamma adjustment during his demo at MacWorld San Francisco in
January. He claimed yes. Now the closest thing I can find in
PixelNhance is manipulating the contrast and midtone controls. Can
PixelNhance do conventional gamma correction? Sure sounds like a
handy feature that would be perfect for this application.
Jean-Paul
--
-===================================================================-
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-=============- http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul -=============-
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From: duncan@orionengNOSPAM.co.uk (Duncan Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: VNC client for OpenStep??
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:55:13 GMT
Organization: Orion Engineering Services Ltd
Message-ID: <3636f78b.4043795@news.ifb.net>
Hi All,
I have seen on the VNC website that a client for OpenStep has been
written, except I can't seem to be able to contact the author. If
anyone could point me in the direction of an ftp site/place to get it
Id be eternally greatfull.
Accessing my NT box would let me keep my NeXT on my desk for a while
longer!
Cheers
Duncan Murray
duncan@NOSPAMorioneng.co.uk
Please ^^^^^^ remove before replying!
Dragonward, EPOC32 Roleplay!:
www.orioneng.co.uk/duncan
From: John Burricelli <mrzog@worldnet.att.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: VNC client for OpenStep??
Date: 28 Oct 1998 12:16:47 GMT
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go to www.ace.net. That is the author's website. You will need to get
all of his framework packages also to make this work. Although this
looks good, its so slow to the point where it is really unusable. It
does work though.
Duncan Murray wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have seen on the VNC website that a client for OpenStep has been
> written, except I can't seem to be able to contact the author. If
> anyone could point me in the direction of an ftp site/place to get it
> Id be eternally greatfull.
>
> Accessing my NT box would let me keep my NeXT on my desk for a while
> longer!
>
> Cheers
> Duncan Murray
>
> duncan@NOSPAMorioneng.co.uk
> Please ^^^^^^ remove before replying!
> Dragonward, EPOC32 Roleplay!:
> www.orioneng.co.uk/duncan
From: duncan@orionengNOSPAM.co.uk (Duncan Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: VNC client for OpenStep??
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:02:44 GMT
Organization: Orion Engineering Services Ltd
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On 28 Oct 1998 12:16:47 GMT, John Burricelli <mrzog@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
>go to www.ace.net. That is the author's website. You will need to get
>all of his framework packages also to make this work. Although this
>looks good, its so slow to the point where it is really unusable. It
>does work though.
Many thanks for the prompt response. Could you give me a few pointers
on installing the framework extensions? I'm not sure what to do with
them!
If it's too off topic for the group/long winded, please feel free to
mail me directly.
Thanks again,
Duncan
*Remeber and remove the NOSPAM*
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Please ^^^^^^ remove before replying!
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From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Andrew Knight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax licenses
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:42:56 GMT
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In <F1Ho7y.2FF@midway.uchicago.edu> Andrew Chang wrote:
> well, i have a multitech 2834BA (?) and i could not even get it work
> ppp. maybe it should work, but certainly not worth the time to me :-)
> i gave it away to use with Wintel.
>
> maybe the newer multitech works better...
I should have said works for us on the following models
Multitech 1432
Muttitech ZDX
We have not tried the 2834
--
Regards David Knight
OneStep Solutions Plc
From: msms <msms@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Trouble with Calliope
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:08:18 -0600
Organization: Telalink Corporation, Nashville, TN, USA
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I got the Sonata font (actually converted a true type from
Mac version), and stuck it and the Calliope font in the
NextLibrary/Fonts folder. When I launched Calliope, it
told me 3 times it couldn't find the Sonata font, and then
told me another 3 times it couldn't find the Calliope font.
Am I putting them it the wrong place, or doing something
else wrong?
Thanks.
-- John
From: msms <msms@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:13:07 -0600
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Does anyone know if it's possible to stick a 68060 in a
NextStation? From notes I remember reading about the processor,
it is pin compatible with the 68040s. I had heard of some
people sticking in 100mhz processors (presumably those 100mhz
68040 accelerators for Macs), but was wondering if anyone had
knowledge or experience in this area.
Thanks.
-- John
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: 28 Oct 1998 16:44:41 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
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In article <36374291.42DDD647@home.com>, msms <msms@home.com> wrote:
>Does anyone know if it's possible to stick a 68060 in a
>NextStation?
It's not really possible, no.
>From notes I remember reading about the processor,
>it is pin compatible with the 68040s.
Perhaps but it's not code-compatible. It would require tweaks to the kernel
and the ROM monitor which one can't really do without source.
--
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University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
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In <36374291.42DDD647@home.com> msms wrote:
> Does anyone know if it's possible to stick a 68060 in a
> NextStation? From notes I remember reading about the processor,
> it is pin compatible with the 68040s. I had heard of some
> people sticking in 100mhz processors (presumably those 100mhz
> 68040 accelerators for Macs), but was wondering if anyone had
> knowledge or experience in this area.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- John
>
If possible, mail me please,
but I think hardly possible
From: Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: PersonalINN
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
Message-ID: <OLHq7fqA#GA.148@ntawwabp.compuserve.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:20:10 -0500
Hi,
I've installed PersonalINN as offline usenet reader. After
installing PersonalINN and editing the Nextstep configfiles I got
the following message on the console during booting the computer.
Starting innd.
..innd: ME cant GetConfigValue pathhost Error 0.
Did someone know what that means and what I have to do to solve
this problem ?
Thanks
Lutz
email:drjekylandmrhyde@csi.com (ASCII, MIME, NEXT)
--
Lutz Kwasniok
Hannover
Germany
Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (MIME, ASCII)
From: wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Trouble with Calliope
Date: 28 Oct 1998 19:07:18 GMT
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msms (msms@home.com) wrote:
: I got the Sonata font (actually converted a true type from
: Mac version), and stuck it and the Calliope font in the
: NextLibrary/Fonts folder. When I launched Calliope, it
: told me 3 times it couldn't find the Sonata font, and then
: told me another 3 times it couldn't find the Calliope font.
: Am I putting them it the wrong place, or doing something
: else wrong?
You have to "install" the fonts first:
(man) buildafmdir
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From: Mike Paquette <mpaque@ncal.verio.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:02:22 -0800
Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16
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msms wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if it's possible to stick a 68060 in a
> NextStation? From notes I remember reading about the processor,
> it is pin compatible with the 68040s. I had heard of some
> people sticking in 100mhz processors (presumably those 100mhz
> 68040 accelerators for Macs), but was wondering if anyone had
> knowledge or experience in this area.
It won't work. There are some differences in supervisor mode opcodes used in
initialization and VM operations. The ROM code and kernel includes 68040
specific opcodes that will fail. There are some small differences in bus
timing that may be problematic, particuarly on the 25 MHz 68040 machines that
used the old Fujitsu ASICs and the BMAP chip.
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Subject: NeXT OS for a Color Station ?
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Hi,
I have a NeXT Color Station without any OS on the hard disk, where can I
get or buy one ? (Not necessaraly the last version, but the correct
one.)
Thanks !
Etienne Delagrave
Québec, Canada
etienned@sympatico.ca
P.S. Please reply at etienned@sympatico.ca too :-)
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 28 Oct 1998 20:54:29 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
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In article <36377843.15C8699E@ncal.verio.com>,
Mike Paquette <mpaque@ncal.verio.com> wrote:
>There are some small differences in bus
>timing that may be problematic, particuarly on the 25 MHz 68040 machines that
>used the old Fujitsu ASICs and the BMAP chip.
>
Ooo--another tidbit of information from The Man.
We've all heard of the Fujitsu ASICs but what exactly is the "BMAP"?
--
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University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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From: "Andrew Malota" <rinn_the_great@hotmail.com>
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Subject: I need software for NeXTSTEP 2.0
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:14:11 -0600
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I need the following:
GIF/JPEG viewer,
3D Rendering Program
Drivers for the Global Village TelePort 36.6 Fax/Data Modem
CAD program
Web Browser
PPP software. (If it in fact exists)
Also, I you know where I can get a cheap OS upgrade (such as 3.3 on CD)
please contact me.
Thanks
Andrew Malota
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From: lsanchezs@aol.com (LSanchezS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Old NeXT Slab & WriteNow - HELP!
Date: 29 Oct 1998 01:47:25 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
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Tom, back in 1991 I wrote my dissertation on the NeXT with WriteNow (NeXTStep
2.0), and if I remember correctly, if I saved the WriteNow files in an Apple
formatted disk with FloppyWorks (which I still have and which was rendered
worthless when I upgraded NeXTStep) I could read the WriteNow files directly
(no RTF intermediate step) with WriteNow for the Mac in a Mac.
Leonardo
From: luomat@peak.org.this.all.must.be.removed (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: replacing /NextApps/Mail.app/MailFetch
Date: 29 Oct 1998 04:58:20 GMT
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Hey folks
With a little help from my friends, I've come up with the following
alternative to MailFetch.
The advantage to this program is this: your mailspool can be processed using
procmail. This is helpful if you can't use procmail on your mailhost (ie it
is NFS'd and you can't run procmail on the machine where mail is actually
delivered) or if you use a POP program to download your email to your
mailspool.
What happened to me is that I get a lot of email (I'm on about 2 dozen
lists, etc) and sometimes the mail would take so long to download that my PPP
connection would idle out, but I didn't really want to increase the idle
time. What I wanted was to download my mail as fast as possible, and bring
down the connection, and let the mail be sorted while I was offline (this can
take up to 5 minutes if I have a lot of mail).
So I wrote this script, taking a lot of suggestions from the two folks
listed at the bottom of this message.
NOTE: IF you decide to use this or something like it, MAKE SURE that procmail
will deliver all mail to Active.mbox directly if it does not get sorted
elsewhere. THAT IS make SURE (darn sure!) that it does not try to drop it
back to /usr/spool/mail/YOURNAMEHERE or else it will be nasty.
The script is below, and in general it works really well. However, there are
some problems:
1) If the Active.mbox is closed, mail sits in the mailspool file until the
Active.mbox is opened
2) Mail.app refuses to run MailFetch if the mailspool does not exist, or if
the mailspool exists with size = 0. Therefore the '/bin/echo > $MAILSPOOL'
below is necessary. However that makes the Mail.app icon flash as if there
is a new message waiting. This is annoying but unsolvable as far as I know
(the behavior seems inconsistent... sometimes it doesn't do it, other times
it will).
I would appreciate if anyone who can follow the logic of the script can think
of any potential problems with it!
#!/bin/sh
PATH=$HOME/Unix/bin:/usr/local/gnu/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/bin
:/usr/etc:/usr:/etc
MAILSPOOL=$1
# where does your mail get held?
POPHOST=mail
# for some debug messages, set to 'yes'
# otherwise, set to 'no'
VERBOSE=NO
if [ "$VERBOSE" = "yes" ]; then
echo "`date` $0 args $*" >/dev/console
fi
if [ -r $MAILSPOOL.lock ]; then
echo "$0 found lockfile, exiting" >/dev/console
fi
if [ $# -lt 1 ];then
echo "Usage: $0 spooldir [user host port]"
exit 1
fi
# if the mailspool file is found
if [ -f $MAILSPOOL ]; then
if [ "$VERBOSE" = "yes" ]; then
echo step 1 >/dev/console
fi
# check the size of the mailspool file
SPOOLSIZE=`/bin/ls -l $MAILSPOOL | awk '{print $4}'`
# if it is greater than 1, pop mail from the pophost
if [ "$SPOOLSIZE" = "1" ]; then
if [ "$VERBOSE" = "yes" ]; then
echo size is equal to 1 >/dev/console
fi
# if the POP program exists executably
if [ -x /usr/local/bin/popOver ]; then
# use fping to check for host
# and if found
fping -a $POPHOST >/dev/null
PINGEXIT="$?"
# if it is found, try to pop mail
if [ "$PINGEXIT" = "0" ]; then
POPRUNNING=`/bin/ps -auxwww|fgrep popOver|fgrep -v grep`
if [ "$POPRUNNING" = "" ]; then
echo "$0 popOver is not running, will execute" >/dev/console
/usr/local/bin/popOver -v -g >/dev/console 2>&1
else
echo "$0 popOver is already running" >/dev/console
exit 0
fi
fi
fi
fi
SPOOLSIZE=`/bin/ls -l $MAILSPOOL | awk '{print $4}'`
if [ "$SPOOLSIZE" != "1" ]; then
trap "rm -f $LOCKFILE" 1 2 3 13 15
umask 077
lockfile -l1800 -ml
formail -s procmail < $MAILSPOOL && rm -f $MAILSPOOL
# if you just remove the mailspool
# using "rm" then AutoCheck will not
# run.
# However, /bin/echo will cause
# mail.app's icon to flash as if there
# is new mail
/bin/echo > $MAILSPOOL
lockfile -mu
fi
fi
exit 0
Original script by
"Ronald C.F. Antony" <rcfa
@cubiculum.com>
and other inspiration from
"Robert Lutwak" <robert
@amo.mit.edu>
but the final blame is on anyone who chooses to actually run this script :-)
TjL
From: Shelby Rogers Davis <sdavis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: teTeX/ TeXview problems
Date: 28 Oct 1998 14:47:39 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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I'm trying to use teTeX on my Next Cube w/ NS3.3, but TeXview won't
find the tfm files needed to display the dvi files. preview works well
on the distilled ps files, but there has to be a better way to edit
TeX.
Any ideas?
(/NextLibraries/TeXFonts is a symlink to the texmf/fonts directory of
teTeX on my system, with the original contents copied into texmf/fonts
before switching over.)
--
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From: "Sung Ho Kim" <sk68@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: 29 Oct 1998 07:20:47 GMT
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Could someone put this on the FAQ? It keeps appearing like a broken tape
recorder. Just my 1 won < $0.001.
Mike Paquette <mpaque@ncal.verio.com> wrote in article
<36377843.15C8699E@ncal.verio.com>...
> msms wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know if it's possible to stick a 68060 in a
> > NextStation? From notes I remember reading about the processor,
> > it is pin compatible with the 68040s. I had heard of some
> > people sticking in 100mhz processors (presumably those 100mhz
> > 68040 accelerators for Macs), but was wondering if anyone had
> > knowledge or experience in this area.
>
> It won't work. There are some differences in supervisor mode opcodes
used in
> initialization and VM operations. The ROM code and kernel includes 68040
> specific opcodes that will fail. There are some small differences in bus
> timing that may be problematic, particuarly on the 25 MHz 68040 machines
that
> used the old Fujitsu ASICs and the BMAP chip.
>
>
>
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <36383a92.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 29 Oct 98 09:51:14 GMT
Shelby Rogers Davis <sdavis+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>I'm trying to use teTeX on my Next Cube w/ NS3.3, but TeXview won't
>find the tfm files needed to display the dvi files. preview works well
>on the distilled ps files, but there has to be a better way to edit
>TeX.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>(/NextLibraries/TeXFonts is a symlink to the texmf/fonts directory of
>teTeX on my system, with the original contents copied into texmf/fonts
>before switching over.)
This wont work. You have to remove the NeXT-TeX-package from your NeXT,
before installing teTeX. This means the old TeXview in NextDev/Demos, too.
Then you have to install a kpsearch-compatible TeXview. I prefer
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/text/tex/apps/TeXview-3.0l-kp0.25.NIHS
.b.tar.gz and
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/text/tex/apps/HyperTeXview-3.0l-kp0.25
.NIHS.b.tar.gz
Remember to check the "Generate fonts as needed"-option in Preferences for
displaying of the fonts in TeXview.
Be sure that all the binaries of teTeX can be found first (compared to some
junk remained on the hd) and make a texhash everytime you change something in
the teTeX-dirs. texhash is responsible for finding the fonts, ...
greets
Sven
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From: John Burricelli <mrzog@worldnet.att.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: VNC client for OpenStep??
Date: 29 Oct 1998 12:09:27 GMT
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what pointers? Install to packages and thats it. Remember this isn't
linux, 95% of the packages install right the first time.
Duncan Murray wrote:
> On 28 Oct 1998 12:16:47 GMT, John Burricelli <mrzog@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >go to www.ace.net. That is the author's website. You will need to get
> >all of his framework packages also to make this work. Although this
> >looks good, its so slow to the point where it is really unusable. It
> >does work though.
>
> Many thanks for the prompt response. Could you give me a few pointers
> on installing the framework extensions? I'm not sure what to do with
> them!
>
> If it's too off topic for the group/long winded, please feel free to
> mail me directly.
>
> Thanks again,
> Duncan
>
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Subject: Re: Trouble with Calliope
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <36383b64.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 29 Oct 98 09:54:44 GMT
wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber) wrote:
>msms (msms@home.com) wrote:
>: I got the Sonata font (actually converted a true type from
>: Mac version), and stuck it and the Calliope font in the
>: NextLibrary/Fonts folder. When I launched Calliope, it
>: told me 3 times it couldn't find the Sonata font, and then
>: told me another 3 times it couldn't find the Calliope font.
>
>: Am I putting them it the wrong place, or doing something
>: else wrong?
>
> You have to "install" the fonts first:
> (man) buildafmdir
Or if you are out of luck you have to edit the files in <name>.font, because
some name or something is not exactly matching what Calliope is expecting.
E.g. Name-Bold for NameBold.
greets
Sven (who still do not have a working Palatino)
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From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: xsnow
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:23:45 +0100
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Hi,
Did anyone do a port of xsnow for openstep/nextstep? It would be nice to
have these snowstorms around your display postcript windows....
Marcel
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From: msms <msms@home.com>
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Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:50:53 -0600
Organization: Telalink Corporation, Nashville, TN, USA
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I checked out Motorola's web site and saw that the 68060 is only
user mode compatible with the 68040s.
Are there any things people have done successfully to speed up their
NeXTstations? Like I said, I had heard of some people putting in
100mhz processors, but I don't know for sure which ones and in what
machines. The reason I ask is because I may be selling my Mac, which
is considerably faster than my NeXTstation. It'd be nice to speed
it up a bit.
-- John
-----------------
> It won't work. There are some differences in supervisor mode opcodes used in
> initialization and VM operations. The ROM code and kernel includes 68040
> specific opcodes that will fail. There are some small differences in bus
> timing that may be problematic, particuarly on the 25 MHz 68040 machines that
> used the old Fujitsu ASICs and the BMAP chip.
From: msms <msms@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT OS for a Color Station ?
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:52:30 -0600
Organization: Telalink Corporation, Nashville, TN, USA
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You can give a call to Apple and get "replacement" disks for your
NeXTstation. It'll cost about $80 or so dollars. If that doesn't
work out for you, you can try www.blackholeinc.com.
-- John
--------------
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a NeXT Color Station without any OS on the hard disk, where can I
>
> get or buy one ? (Not necessaraly the last version, but the correct
> one.)
>
> Thanks !
>
> Etienne Delagrave
> Québec, Canada
> etienned@sympatico.ca
>
> P.S. Please reply at etienned@sympatico.ca too :-)
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: 29 Oct 1998 19:40:18 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
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In article <3638B90C.8485FE1F@home.com>, msms <msms@home.com> wrote:
>
>Are there any things people have done successfully to speed up their
>NeXTstations?
This is really a FAQ. There's the Pyro, a 50MHz 68040 board from Spherical.
That's the only solution that even partially works.
>Like I said, I had heard of some people putting in
>100mhz processors, but I don't know for sure which ones and in what
>machines.
There are no 100Mhz 68k processors. Perhaps you're reading some vapour that
labels the 50MHz '040 as being 100MHz?
--
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Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: smarqz@BASSETunm.edu (Steve M)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any word processors w/outline view?
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:34:09 GMT
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
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Any word processors for NeXT or Openstep w/outline view, as found on
Word for Mac?
Its really a handy tool to view headings, and to expand/condense the
information.
Thank You,
Steve
please remove hound from reply address or direct responses to smarqz
at unm dot edu
From: rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: 29 Oct 1998 22:50:10 GMT
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doh! .......and i thought you knew everything.
In <3638B90C.8485FE1F@home.com> msms wrote:
[>]I checked out Motorola's web site and saw that the 68060 is only
[>]user mode compatible with the 68040s.
[>]
[>]Are there any things people have done successfully to speed up their
[>]NeXTstations? Like I said, I had heard of some people putting in
[>]100mhz processors, but I don't know for sure which ones and in what
[>]machines. The reason I ask is because I may be selling my Mac, which
[>]is considerably faster than my NeXTstation. It'd be nice to speed
[>]it up a bit.
[>]
[>]-- John
[>]
[>]-----------------
[>]> It won't work. There are some differences in supervisor mode opcodes
used in
[>]> initialization and VM operations. The ROM code and kernel includes
68040
[>]> specific opcodes that will fail. There are some small differences in bus
[>]> timing that may be problematic, particuarly on the 25 MHz 68040 machines
that
[>]> used the old Fujitsu ASICs and the BMAP chip.
[>]
--
-3 PCs, 2 NeXTs, 1 Falcon030. all play and no work makes rivet poor-
From: Mark Frank <mark.frank@ieee.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Image conversion software for Openstep
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:04:39 -0800
Organization: IEEE
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Does anyone know of any image conversion software for
Openstep? There seem to be a few for Nextstep. Are
any of these worth porting over to Openstep (assuming
source is available)?
Thanks for any pointers,
mark.frank@ieee.org
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenWrite and spell checker
Date: 29 Oct 1998 21:10:14 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <71aljm$g9h$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
I know this has been asked and answered before, but I can't find the
reference and an OS reinstall later resulted in to needing to fix it again.
OpenWrite's spell check option doesn't work with OpenStep for Mach 4,2 as
it did with NEXTSTEP 3.x. I know it has SOMETHING to do with a slightly
changed
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service
I mucked around in the service wrapper adding a link
nextspell -> NeXTspell
since on 3.3 the executable was called nextspell. Didn't help. I tried
adding a services file that closely resembled (but not exactly) the version
from 3.3. Didn't help. I logged out and back in after these changes...
also no dice.
Anyone remember/know how I can get it working again?
p.s. This is not a BIG deal, as I have an alternate ispell based spell
checker available too.
--
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Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help - start problem
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 04:10:51 GMT
Organization: EUnet Belgium, Leuven, Belgium
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Help,
My next cube has the following problem:
He starts up : start from rom monitor
scsi target 0, lun 0
Then in Next Mach operating system
Next rom monitor 1.0 v 41
Next Mach 3.3
fpu version 0x0
memory 16 m
available 14.07 me
using 102 buffers ...
scsi controller 53c90a target 7, as sc0 at 0x2014000
microp. nr .. as sd0 at sc0 target 0, lun 0
Maxtor nr.. as sd1 at sc0 target 1, lun 0
sony cd rom as sd2 at sc0 target 3 ,lun 0
quantum as sd3 at sc0 target 6 ,lun 0
generic scsi device as sg0 at sc0 target 7, lun 7
gene.... sg1 .....;idem ...;
gene...; sg2 ... idem ....;
gene... sg 3 idem ...
odc0 at 0x2012000
od0 at odc0 slave 0
od1 at odc0 slave 1
--------
at this point al stops :-((((
What must be done, please help
arnold
From: "Avri Snitz" <why@why.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: where Can I get the software
Date: 29 Oct 1998 23:53:48 GMT
Organization: BCCH
Message-ID: <01be0398$838e3580$288217cf@AVRI_OFFICE.CHILDHOSP.BC.CA>
Does anybody know where can I get / buy a copy of Next Step V 3.3? Is there
a trial version on the Web somewhere?
TIA
Avri
From: msms <msms@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:30:00 -0600
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Ther 100mhz thing came from someone I was talking to, I don't
even know what chip he was talking about (I didn't really care
at the time).
There is the Quaddoubler 68040s being sold by Sonnet technologies
at http://www.sonnettech.com/product/quaddoubler.html. The 100mhz
would be referring to the chip speed, rather than the 50mhz bus.
What do you mean by "even partially"?
-- John
--------------------
> This is really a FAQ. There's the Pyro, a 50MHz 68040 board from Spherical.
> That's the only solution that even partially works.
>
> There are no 100Mhz 68k processors. Perhaps you're reading some vapour that
> labels the 50MHz '040 as being 100MHz?
>
> --
> David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
> Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
> University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
> Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: "Rex Dieter" <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: teTeX/ TeXview problems
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:24:33 -0600
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <71b0ir$7od$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <emacs-smtp-7280-13879-29915-32882@navajo.weh.andrew.cmu.edu>
Shelby Rogers Davis wrote in message ...
>I'm trying to use teTeX on my Next Cube w/ NS3.3, but TeXview won't
>find the tfm files needed to display the dvi files. preview works well
>on the distilled ps files, but there has to be a better way to edit
>TeX.
You need an updated version of TeXview with kpathsea support. the
README/docs for tetex should mention it.
--
Rex Dieter
Computer System Manager
Math/Stat Department
University of Nebraska Lincoln
From: dean@u.washington.edu (Dean Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite and spell checker
Date: 30 Oct 1998 01:26:40 GMT
Organization: Not Sure Yet
Message-ID: <71b4kg$5os$1@dns2.serv.net>
References: <71aljm$g9h$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
In-Reply-To: <71aljm$g9h$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
Here is the info that was posted about 6-8 months ago by some kind
soul.
Hope this helps,
dean
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Get the 3.3 User CD and copy
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
to
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/services
(note the capitalization) then copy
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/nextspell
to
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/NeXTspell
finally, link
/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service/Resources/bindict
to
/usr/lib/NextStep/Resources/bindict
On 10/29/98, Rex Dieter wrote:
>I know this has been asked and answered before, but I can't find the
>reference and an OS reinstall later resulted in to needing to fix it
again.
>
>OpenWrite's spell check option doesn't work with OpenStep for Mach
4,2 as
>it did with NEXTSTEP 3.x. I know it has SOMETHING to do with a
slightly
>changed
>/NextLibrary/Services/NeXTspell.service
>
>I mucked around in the service wrapper adding a link
>nextspell -> NeXTspell
>since on 3.3 the executable was called nextspell. Didn't help. I
tried
>adding a services file that closely resembled (but not exactly) the
version
>from 3.3. Didn't help. I logged out and back in after these
changes...
>also no dice.
>
>Anyone remember/know how I can get it working again?
>
>p.s. This is not a BIG deal, as I have an alternate ispell based
spell
>checker available too.
>
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dean Johnson dean@u.washington.edu
Computing Systems and Software University of Washington
From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniImage unable to save to various formats
Date: 30 Oct 1998 02:09:04 GMT
Organization: ICGNetcom
Message-ID: <71b740$hqp@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>
I am running OmniImage 3.2 on Openstep at work and it will only save
to the TIFF format. The same software which I use on my home machine
(NEXTSTEP 3.3) saves to some 30 formats. Is OmniImage incompatible
with Openstep?
Thanks.
Vicki Bragin
vbragin@ix.netcom.com
From: "Vicente" <robi@mx3.redestb.es>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.software.crosspoint,de.comm.software.forte-agent,de.comm.software.mailreader.misc,de.comm.software.mailreader.pegasus,de.comm
Subject: Busco drivers de LS-120 I seek drivers of LS-120
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:33:18 -0500
Organization: Telefonica Transmision de Datos
Message-ID: <70qqpo$cq2$6@diana.bcn.ibernet.es>
¡Hola!.
Busco los drivers de LS-120 de Panasonic. Los he perdido. ¿ Alguien me puede
ayudar?.
Los mensajes me los podéis mandar a robi@mx3.redestb.es
Gracias a tod@s y saludos.
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Hello!.
I seek the drivers of LS-120 of Panasonic. The have lost. Someone can help
me?.
The messages me the can order to robi@mx3.redestb.es
Thanks to all and regards.
From: "Ninja" <ninja@aerohel.snu.ac.kr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] Want to Buy OPENSTEP Enterprise NT for Student.
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:55:31 +0900
Organization: Seoul National University, Republic of Korea
Message-ID: <71bgda$415$1@news.kren.nm.kr>
I live in Korea in Eastern Asia. I currently develop some
application with GNUstep/OpenStep and want to port this
and use in Windows machine. If anyone who knows dealer
who can sell OPENSTEP Enterprise NT 4.2 for Student or
Educational Version to me.
Thanks in advance.
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: 30 Oct 1998 02:34:09 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <909714849.416599@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca>
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In article <3638FA78.2BE469D2@home.com>, msms <msms@home.com> wrote:
>
>There is the Quaddoubler 68040s being sold by Sonnet technologies
>at http://www.sonnettech.com/product/quaddoubler.html. The 100mhz
>would be referring to the chip speed, rather than the 50mhz bus.
>
But, the last time I checked, there are *no* 100MHz '040s. They may take
a 100MHz clock as input to handle some internal stuff but they're not 100MHz
devices.
>What do you mean by "even partially"?
>
[ In reference to the Pyro ] It apparently has problems on some machines
for reasons that nobody can really figure out. Some folks are lucky, while
others are not.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: msms <msms@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:24:11 -0600
Organization: Telalink Corporation, Nashville, TN, USA
Message-ID: <3638F91B.9A303ADB@home.com>
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??
rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com wrote:
>
> doh! .......and i thought you knew everything.
>
> In <3638B90C.8485FE1F@home.com> msms wrote:
> [>]I checked out Motorola's web site and saw that the 68060 is only
> [>]user mode compatible with the 68040s.
> [>]
> [>]Are there any things people have done successfully to speed up their
> [>]NeXTstations? Like I said, I had heard of some people putting in
> [>]100mhz processors, but I don't know for sure which ones and in what
> [>]machines. The reason I ask is because I may be selling my Mac, which
> [>]is considerably faster than my NeXTstation. It'd be nice to speed
> [>]it up a bit.
> [>]
> [>]-- John
> [>]
> [>]-----------------
> [>]> It won't work. There are some differences in supervisor mode opcodes
> used in
> [>]> initialization and VM operations. The ROM code and kernel includes
> 68040
> [>]> specific opcodes that will fail. There are some small differences in bus
> [>]> timing that may be problematic, particuarly on the 25 MHz 68040 machines
> that
> [>]> used the old Fujitsu ASICs and the BMAP chip.
> [>]
>
> --
> -3 PCs, 2 NeXTs, 1 Falcon030. all play and no work makes rivet poor-
From: "Sung Ho Kim" <sk68@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: 30 Oct 1998 03:11:13 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified)
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The Sonnet has been suggested various times, but the answer is no--it won't
work on the NeXTstation.
>
> There is the Quaddoubler 68040s being sold by Sonnet technologies
> at http://www.sonnettech.com/product/quaddoubler.html. The 100mhz
> would be referring to the chip speed, rather than the 50mhz bus.
>
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Subject: Re: VNC client for OpenStep??
References: <3636f78b.4043795@news.ifb.net> <36370B89.F72DCC92@worldnet.att.net>
From: Christian Starkjohann
Organisation: Objective Development
Message-ID: <3639b484.0@news.telekabel.at>
Date: 30 Oct 1998 13:43:48 +0100
John Burricelli <mrzog@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> go to www.ace.net. That is the author's website. You will need to get
> all of his framework packages also to make this work. Although this
> looks good, its so slow to the point where it is really unusable. It
> does work though.
I know of at least one other implementation. Helmut Maierhofer is working on
one and it's already quite usable. I can give you his e-mail address if you
like.
--
Christian Starkjohann
mail: <cs -AT- obdev.at>
web: http://www.obdev.at/
From: msms <msms@home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:22:53 -0600
Organization: Telalink Corporation, Nashville, TN, USA
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I checked it out on the web, the price is insane. I could buy 3 or 4
Nextstations for the cost of it.
-- John
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> [ In reference to the Pyro ] It apparently has problems on some machines
> for reasons that nobody can really figure out. Some folks are lucky, while
> others are not.t
From: "lcabrera" <lcabrera@psc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Login window
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:45:28 -0500
Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center
Message-ID: <71d8hr$eq6$1@news.psc.edu>
How do you set the login window in OS 4.2?
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: 31 Oct 1998 03:16:55 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
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In article <363A3C3C.F366164B@home.com>, msms <msms@home.com> wrote:
>I checked it out on the web, the price is insane. I could buy 3 or 4
>Nextstations for the cost of it.
>
Yep. It's for those who have more money than sense. ;-)
--
David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: 30 Oct 1998 21:13:29 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <71e69p$8br@slip.net>
References: <36374291.42DDD647@home.com> <36377843.15C8699E@ncal.verio.com> <3638B90C.8485FE1F@home.com> <71arf2$1ql$2@eve.enteract.com>
>[>]
>[>]Are there any things people have done successfully to speed up their
>[>]NeXTstations?
Sort of.
You can put NeXTStep 3.3 on an Intel machine then NXHost
from the black box to the white one.
In my case, I have a 25mhz ND with two color 21" Hitachi's
and I NXHost to a 150 mhz Pentium running NS 3.3. The
Pentium, actually a Compac 590, has an Adaptec SCSI2
card and a 2.1 gig Quantum. Mandelbrot applications
running side by side take about 5-7 times longer on
black than white.
Of course, if your running Mathematica you'll have to
get a license specifically for the white machine, and
some cools don't have white versions. (I tried using
a black license for Ma 3.0 so don't even bother. )
It may not be worth the trouble setting up a Pentium
unless you are running a web site, doing a lot of compiling
or if for OmniWeb a lot. But you can do it. Printing
and faxing from the white machine to the black is very
works seemlessly.
Emmett
From: "KobeN" <KobeN@ms7.url.com.tw>
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Subject: ¤@Óºô¯¸:
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:40:59 +0800
Organization: DCI HiNet
Message-ID: <71gh9p$gmj@netnews.hinet.net>
¤@Óºô¯¸:
http://members.xoom.com/KobeF
From: John Burricelli <mrzog@worldnet.att.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: 31 Oct 1998 15:50:25 GMT
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services
Message-ID: <363B3219.C0A00035@worldnet.att.net>
References: <36374291.42DDD647@home.com> <36377843.15C8699E@ncal.verio.com>
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You could always put a PII box on top of a slab and pretend you're running black
hardware
rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com wrote:
> doh! .......and i thought you knew everything.
>
> In <3638B90C.8485FE1F@home.com> msms wrote:
> [>]I checked out Motorola's web site and saw that the 68060 is only
> [>]user mode compatible with the 68040s.
> [>]
> [>]Are there any things people have done successfully to speed up their
> [>]NeXTstations? Like I said, I had heard of some people putting in
> [>]100mhz processors, but I don't know for sure which ones and in what
> [>]machines. The reason I ask is because I may be selling my Mac, which
> [>]is considerably faster than my NeXTstation. It'd be nice to speed
> [>]it up a bit.
> [>]
> [>]-- John
> [>]
> [>]-----------------
> [>]> It won't work. There are some differences in supervisor mode opcodes
> used in
> [>]> initialization and VM operations. The ROM code and kernel includes
> 68040
> [>]> specific opcodes that will fail. There are some small differences in bus
> [>]> timing that may be problematic, particuarly on the 25 MHz 68040 machines
> that
> [>]> used the old Fujitsu ASICs and the BMAP chip.
> [>]
>
> --
> -3 PCs, 2 NeXTs, 1 Falcon030. all play and no work makes rivet poor-
From: weigel+@pitt.edu (Matthew C Weigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: 31 Oct 1998 17:31:36 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <71fhho$4it$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
References: <36374291.42DDD647@home.com> <363A3C3C.F366164B@home.com> <909803815.77822@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca> <71f9fe$pbb@obi-wan.fdt.net>
TjL <luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion> wrote:
>In <909803815.77822@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote:
>> In article <363A3C3C.F366164B@home.com>, msms <msms@home.com> wrote:
>> >I checked it out on the web, the price is insane. I could buy 3 or 4
>> >Nextstations for the cost of it.
>
>Yes but none of them would run any faster ;-)
>
>
>> Yep. It's for those who have more money than sense. ;-)
>
>I definitely think they would have sold more if the price were $100-200
>rather than $900 especially with all the new folks coming onto the NeXT scene
>after the Apple thing
Damn those economies of scale! ;-)
Btw, Tim- your web page on cablemodems and LAN's helped me immensely --
between that, and eventually typing everything in correctly, I'm hooked up
to the net from my NeXTStation :-)
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/-------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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\\--Weigel OS2 | NeXT Programmer--//
\\--------------------------+----------------------------//
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Drivers for white hardware
Date: 31 Oct 1998 18:05:24 GMT
Message-ID: <71fjh4$n00$1@autumn.news.rcn.net>
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Cc: mlankton@home.com
In <363B3362.40B6BDB2@home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
> I use several operating systems here at home, and my old 4mb s3virge is
> well supported in all of them. It looks like if I want to upgrade my
> vid card, the matrox millenium 2 is about my only alternative as far as
> cards that are supported in all my os'es.
> Windows and Xwindows will always have support for the latest cards.
> There are usually xfree drivers for new vid cards within a few months of
> a card coming out. But NeXT is another matter. Is there anyone who
> will be writing new drivers for hardware like vid cards, is Apple
> support officially dead, will Apple be making intel drivers for Rhapsody
> that perhaps may work in Openstep on intel??? I run NeXT on the same
> box I run linux, solaris and windows. Is it time to set up a dedicated
> NeXT box using all the old hardware I have lying around, or are any new
> device drivers forthcoming? Thanks in advance.
>
My guest is that, since they have release the Driver kit for OS4.2, I can't
imagine, Apple wasting more resources on Intel drivers (although, I am sure
that some of the newer video cards will be adapted for this Intel release of
MacOS X server). I am not very familiar with writing NeXT drivers nor in
that matter any hardware drivers for different OSes. But, I would imagine
that the basic code source used in the XFree86 effort, could be used to make
OS4.2 with a little help from our new Driver kit, similiar to the way BE OS
is making Intel drivers with the help of XFree. Anybody familiar in this
matter should speak up and explain to us, what need to be done. Is this a
matter only Apple can provide a solution too?
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From: John Burricelli <mrzog@worldnet.att.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Login window
Date: 31 Oct 1998 19:18:50 GMT
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services
Message-ID: <363B62F3.6E1EEB0D@worldnet.att.net>
References: <71d8hr$eq6$1@news.psc.edu>
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Set the root password in the settings options (where date/time etc. are
set)
lcabrera wrote:
> How do you set the login window in OS 4.2?
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 31 Oct 1998 20:45:38 GMT
Organization: would be nice
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In <71fhho$4it$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Matthew C Weigel wrote:
> Btw, Tim- your web page on cablemodems and LAN's helped me immensely --
> between that, and eventually typing everything in correctly, I'm hooked up
> to the net from my NeXTStation :-)
Cool, glad to hear it....
Speaking of those pages, I guess I should take down the sign that says I'm
offline ;-)
TjL
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From: "Robert Bullock" <rcbullock@worldnet.att.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Netscape for NeXTstep: I got the source
Date: 31 Oct 1998 23:24:22 GMT
Organization: Susie
Message-ID: <01be0525$c22b50a0$158a4a0c@stuff1>
I got the source just to see, did anyone else? 18.5 megs for the
latest...ow. Anyone tried compiling it yet?
-Robert
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape for NeXTstep: I got the source
Date: 1 Nov 1998 01:12:03 GMT
Message-ID: <71gch3$p1i$1@autumn.news.rcn.net>
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In <01be0525$c22b50a0$158a4a0c@stuff1> "Robert Bullock" wrote:
> I got the source just to see, did anyone else? 18.5 megs for the
> latest...ow. Anyone tried compiling it yet?
>
> -Robert
>
>
I can't try compiling until I know where to get it! :)
Hey Robert,
Let's let the information flow.
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <18198909288022@digifix.com>
Date: 1 Nov 1998 04:47:06 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <2557909896420@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
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Subject: Re: Netscape for NeXTstep: I got the source
Date: 1 Nov 1998 14:21:02 GMT
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In <01be0566$4748a9a0$c28a4a0c@stuff1> "Robert Bullock" wrote:
>
>
> echo4@NOSPAM.erols.com --delete NOSPAM wrote in article
> <71gch3$p1i$1@autumn.news.rcn.net>...
> > In <01be0525$c22b50a0$158a4a0c@stuff1> "Robert Bullock" wrote:
> > > I got the source just to see, did anyone else? 18.5 megs for the
> > > latest...ow. Anyone tried compiling it yet?
> > >
> > > -Robert
> > >
> > >
> > I can't try compiling until I know where to get it! :)
> > Hey Robert,
> > Let's let the information flow.
>
> Well, I should have been more astute, it's actually Mozilla, but it's sort
> of the same thing no? Seems the difference is:
>
> Netscape Communicator: the already built and debugged (mostly) version in a
> binary.
>
> Mozilla: The roll yer own source code. And it's 18.7 megs of it.
>
> Try:
>
>
> http://www.mozilla.org/download-mozilla.html
>
> I don't think there is a GUI of any sort with it, it mainly is for
> developers I think, but my cube is sick so I haven't played with it.
>
> -Robert
>
>
>
Rob,
I thought, that was what you were talking about. Well, for me it not worth
playing around with, not yet at else. I am very happy with Omni Web 3.x.
Maybe, here is one option. When I get serious, about playing with Netscape
on the same box with my Openstep4.2, I just X to my Intel Linux box and
whamm! I am surfing. Looking at your e-mail, you have a pc running Win95
and Netscape. Maybe, if you haven't already instead, install Linux on the
Intel based PC and use your Cube, to X. I believe there are some free X
programs for the Cube. If not, you can still purchase CubX.
The second option, which i have also tried, run Netscape4.x (16bit) with
Softpc4.0, well speed is good on this OS42 white box, but on the black, I am
not sure if you would want to do this :). All you can do is wait, then
again the code is free.....hack alway :). Good Luck
Jay
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Subject: Single User Login:
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:56:34 +0800
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Hi All , I bought NeXT color Turbo (No Manual ,No Boot Disk , No
NEXTSTEP CD......) ,That's O.K I Love Black NeXT!!! Now my first
Problem is How to Login !
Can I do Boot in single user mode supplying '-s' to the boot prompt.
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Subject: Re: Image conversion software for Openstep
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
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Date: 2 Nov 98 10:19:16 GMT
Mark Frank <mark.frank@ieee.org> wrote:
>Does anyone know of any image conversion software for
>Openstep? There seem to be a few for Nextstep. Are
>any of these worth porting over to Openstep (assuming
>source is available)?
I thought the NS-progs run on OS, too...
Sven
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From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
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Subject: Re: Any word processors w/outline view?
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:54:50 +0100
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Steve M wrote:
> Any word processors for NeXT or Openstep w/outline view, as found on
> Word for Mac?
> Its really a handy tool to view headings, and to expand/condense the
> information.
>
NeXTs Edit.app and Emacs support these features, however they are no word
processors. If I remember correctly FrameMaker supports such features too.
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Hi All,
After hours and hours of trying, I've come to the conclusion that for
whatever reason, I simply cannot get the Msql EOF adaptor running on my
NextTurboStation running OS/NS4.2. I will pay someone $20 to both e-mail me
a working copy of this and send me a disk, if need be. I have EOF and
WebObjects, and a big project I'm developing is using Msql, and there is no
way around it. If some kind soul would take pity on a non-programmer and
send this to me, I would be eternally grateful, and willing to send you the
$20 bucks if you want it. Peace,
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> In <01be0525$c22b50a0$158a4a0c@stuff1> "Robert Bullock" wrote:
> > I got the source just to see, did anyone else? 18.5 megs for the
> > latest...ow. Anyone tried compiling it yet?
> >
> > -Robert
> >
> >
> I can't try compiling until I know where to get it! :)
> Hey Robert,
> Let's let the information flow.
Well, I should have been more astute, it's actually Mozilla, but it's sort
of the same thing no? Seems the difference is:
Netscape Communicator: the already built and debugged (mostly) version in a
binary.
Mozilla: The roll yer own source code. And it's 18.7 megs of it.
Try:
http://www.mozilla.org/download-mozilla.html
I don't think there is a GUI of any sort with it, it mainly is for
developers I think, but my cube is sick so I haven't played with it.
-Robert
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From: wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de (Wolfgang Keller)
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> If I remember correctly FrameMaker supports such features too.
The last time I used FrameMaker (maybe a week ago) it didn't.
Only for SGML documents, FrameMaker+SGML supports some kind of 'outline
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
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In article <71b740$hqp@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> vbragin@ix.netcom.com
writes:
> I am running OmniImage 3.2 on Openstep at work and it will only save
> to the TIFF format. The same software which I use on my home machine
> (NEXTSTEP 3.3) saves to some 30 formats. Is OmniImage incompatible
> with Openstep?
It works if you have OmniImageFilter installed too. (-;
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david@onestep.co.uk (David Andrew Knight) writes:
> I should have said works for us on the following models
>
> Multitech 1432
> Muttitech ZDX
Word of warning - I have one of the ZDX modems and if you are using it to login
to the system as well as send faxes then you get some very unpleaent
behaviour: if you hangup the phone then the kernel panics !
I'd love to find a fix for this - twice now I've managed to kikc the phone lead
out of the wall at home and then had to trek throuhg rain and snow to the
office to reboot the machine :-(
-bat.
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Actually the new machines Apple will be releasing aren't going to
be plain-old grey. More than likely a result of Steve Jobs, rumor
has it they'll follow the translucent look started by the iMac
(although I doubt they'll look like them) and the LCD Studio
Display.
I probably won't get one, but I'll sure be jealous :)
-- John
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>
> Isn't pirating next stuff and selling it a little bit pointless?
>
> NeXTstep 3.3 is free if you own a system.
>
> Lighthouse suite is free.
>
> Plenty of shareware apps, well, you'll e-mail the people who make it and
> they'll say 'Good god, are you still using NeXTblack hardware?' and give
> you a license.
>
> OS wise, well the people I bought my Slab off supplied me with 3.3 user
> on CD-R. Hell, I have a license, since I have a Slab.
> When you buy software, you are paying for the License to use it.
>
> That said,
>
> Apple obviously don't want us to keep using our Black hardware.
>
> They want us to buy a new G3 and OS X.
>
> Which I would do, only that would be grey and not as cool looking on my
> desk.
>
> Perhaps getting het up about pirating NeXT stuff is the silly bit.
>
> Apple aren't going to say 'Oh yes, pirate our stuff'.
>
> But then, what else are we going to do?
>
> I do think the piraters should supply a refund though.
>
> I am quite happy to use Gold-CD copies of NeXTstep. NeXTstation Turbo
> Color is my platform of choice, and I am not going to quit using it
> because this doesn't fit into Apples long term marketting aims.
>
> Oh yeah. E-mail the Engage! Desktop bloke. he gave me a licensed copy of
> it.
>
> you will maybe have to look up his new e-mail address...
>
> Owen Hughes
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<01be0398$838e3580$288217cf@AVRI_OFFICE.CHILDHOSP.BC.CA>...
>
>Does anybody know where can I get / buy a copy of Next Step V 3.3? Is there
>a trial version on the Web somewhere?
Is there still a version of NeXTSTEP available that runs on Intel machines?
Please reply via e-mail!
Thanks,
John
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From: beigel@oscar.eecs.uic.edu (Richard Beigel)
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Is there a way I can change the xy offset that most programs use when
creating new windows? I use pretty large windows and I'd rather that
they overlap than stick off the bottom and right edges of the screens.
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> That said,
> Apple obviously don't want us to keep using our Black hardware.
> They want us to buy a new G3 and OS X.
I just wish they'd let us do so!
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From: Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten)
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Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten) wrote:
please ... where can i find some help ........
>Help,
>My next cube has the following problem:
>He starts up : start from rom monitor
>scsi target 0, lun 0
>Then in Next Mach operating system
>Next rom monitor 1.0 v 41
>Next Mach 3.3
>fpu version 0x0
>memory 16 m
>available 14.07 me
>using 102 buffers ...
>scsi controller 53c90a target 7, as sc0 at 0x2014000
>microp. nr .. as sd0 at sc0 target 0, lun 0
>Maxtor nr.. as sd1 at sc0 target 1, lun 0
>sony cd rom as sd2 at sc0 target 3 ,lun 0
>quantum as sd3 at sc0 target 6 ,lun 0
>generic scsi device as sg0 at sc0 target 7, lun 7
> gene.... sg1 .....;idem ...;
> gene...; sg2 ... idem ....;
> gene... sg 3 idem ...
>odc0 at 0x2012000
>od0 at odc0 slave 0
>od1 at odc0 slave 1
>--------
>at this point al stops :-((((
>What must be done, please help
>arnold
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From: Christopher Borden <cdbgraf@earthlink.net>
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hey gang,
i have a five-zip-disk archive compiled under ns 3.2 or 3.3 which i am
trying to restore under os 4.2.
everything seems to go fine, i put the last disk in and it takes a long
time then eventually the processes panel goes blank (after approx 2hrs),
but there's no message to the effect of "finished copying." however, my
adjusted hard-disk free space in the browser seems to reflect the
expected backup displacement of approx 1gb. but when i open the restored
folder it's woefully incomplete, in fact only approx 9mb worth of stuff
appears [four or five apps, the last one incompletely copied therefore
unusable].
the last line of my console window at this time reads: "usr/bin/gnutar:
skipping to next file header. . ."
i checked the man pages and entered the "list" command with disk 1
mounted and got a "permission denied" response in my terminal window.
all this time i've been logged in as root.
i'd appreciate any help, really needing this backup.
thanks,
chris borden
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From: balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu (Balazs Pataki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape for NeXTstep: I got the source
Date: 5 Nov 1998 09:33:24 GMT
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.. and I've got it to compile ;-)
Actually, I have a mozilla for NS3.3/sparc, which cannot do anything but
print (generate PostScript) from a given HTML page (URL). It's all command
line, and is about 36 MB, but is a good start, huh :-) ?
Unfortunately, I didn't have the time to update it for the new
source trees (mine is about 1.5 month old ...), and commit the NEXTSTEP
specific canges back to the CVS guys at mozilla.org.
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From: balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu (Balazs Pataki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: VNC client for OpenStep??
Date: 5 Nov 1998 09:44:16 GMT
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Could you please send me his address, too?
I just hacked up a vnc viewer for NEXTSTEP 3.3 in the last 2 days (based
on the OPENSTEP VNCViewer.app and the X vncviewer), but I'm not too
pleased with the speed yet, so I would be interested in other's way doing
the vnc stuff.
---
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> On 30 Oct 1998 13:43:48 +0100, Christian Starkjohann wrote:
> >
> >I know of at least one other implementation. Helmut Maierhofer is
working on
> >one and it's already quite usable. I can give you his e-mail address if
you
> >like.
>
> Yes please - that would be very handy indeed!
>
> Thanks,
> Duncan.
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From: Owen Hughes <ME@hughesm.force9.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 'Piracy' is it?
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 00:53:41 +0000
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Isn't pirating next stuff and selling it a little bit pointless?
NeXTstep 3.3 is free if you own a system.
Lighthouse suite is free.
Plenty of shareware apps, well, you'll e-mail the people who make it and
they'll say 'Good god, are you still using NeXTblack hardware?' and give
you a license.
OS wise, well the people I bought my Slab off supplied me with 3.3 user
on CD-R. Hell, I have a license, since I have a Slab.
When you buy software, you are paying for the License to use it.
That said,
Apple obviously don't want us to keep using our Black hardware.
They want us to buy a new G3 and OS X.
Which I would do, only that would be grey and not as cool looking on my
desk.
Perhaps getting het up about pirating NeXT stuff is the silly bit.
Apple aren't going to say 'Oh yes, pirate our stuff'.
But then, what else are we going to do?
I do think the piraters should supply a refund though.
I am quite happy to use Gold-CD copies of NeXTstep. NeXTstation Turbo
Color is my platform of choice, and I am not going to quit using it
because this doesn't fit into Apples long term marketting aims.
Oh yeah. E-mail the Engage! Desktop bloke. he gave me a licensed copy of
it.
you will maybe have to look up his new e-mail address...
Owen Hughes
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Okay, I've been following this thread for awhile and I can't figure it
out. What is VNC?
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From: ff48@columbia.edu
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Hi Arnold,
just a suggestion because I don't have an answer to your problem yet.It is
possible that you had an Optical Drive mounted with your cube. This drive is
signaled as O.D. slave 0.
MAY BE, you are booting from this unknown drive.
Your Cube need to know where is your Hard disk and boot bsd(0,0,0).
Hope this help.
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From: Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten)
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ff48@columbia.edu wrote:
>Hi Arnold,
>just a suggestion because I don't have an answer to your problem yet.It is
>possible that you had an Optical Drive mounted with your cube. This drive is
>signaled as O.D. slave 0.
Yes, there was a optical but 6 monts ago he died....I
disconnected the drive and for weeks all was fine ;;;
For ever he was booting on a external drive - the micropolis
drive - slot 0 :-(((
Arnold
>MAY BE, you are booting from this unknown drive.
>Your Cube need to know where is your Hard disk and boot bsd(0,0,0).
>Hope this help.
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From: Charlie Root <root@azrael.uoregon.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape for NeXTstep: I got the source
Date: 7 Nov 1998 00:34:01 GMT
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Balazs Pataki <balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu> wrote:
> Unfortunately, I didn't have the time to update it for the new
> source trees (mine is about 1.5 month old ...), and commit the NEXTSTEP
> specific canges back to the CVS guys at mozilla.org.
Does this mean there is a mozilla port in progress for next/openstep?!?!
wes
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From: fluids@aol.com (Fluids)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mathematica on NeXTstep 3.3
Date: 7 Nov 1998 06:34:49 GMT
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hi there, i was wondering if NeXTstep 3.3 had mathematica included, i recall it
coming on an earlier version (2.0 i think). just curious, since mathematica is
one hell of an expensive program. thank you much.
brandon
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The Gimp for NeXT?
Date: 7 Nov 1998 17:34:33 GMT
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In <3644275B.1F01@earthlink.net> David Hill wrote:
> Awhile ago there was a thread pertaining to the porting of The Gimp
> image editing software to NeXTSTEP. What ever became of that. Is it
> available? For NS3.3??
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/X11/clients/graphics/gimp.1.0.0.I.b.tar
Intel only, and it requires X
TjL
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Subject: Re: The Gimp for NeXT?
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 22:14:32 GMT
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In article <3644275B.1F01@earthlink.net> David Hill
<daveyohill@earthlink.net> writes:
> Awhile ago there was a thread pertaining to the porting of The Gimp
> image editing software to NeXTSTEP. What ever became of that. Is it
> available? For NS3.3??
>
Yes, it is. However, it still needs an X11 server, e.g., Xnext (shareware).
You can download my GIMP-package from the archives (peanuts in munich).
The necessary source changes were included in the source, so that you
should now be able to even compile it yourself without problems (but it is
a bit of work nevertheless).
bye,
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From: David Hill <daveyohill@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing fonts in NS 3.3
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 00:20:43 +0000
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I've downloaded a few fonts from Peak, un tar'd them with Opener and
dropped them into NeXTLibrary/Fonts. Why don't they show up in
OpenWrite, Create or other Apps?
Regards,
David
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
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Date: 8 Nov 1998 04:46:29 GMT
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Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
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From: "WATERMELON" <hanabi@tky2.3web.ne.jp>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mp3,vqf,realaudio DOWNLOAD the SOFTWARE NOW!
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:40:46 +0900
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From: no@spam.please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: tcpdump compiled?
Date: 9 Nov 1998 22:01:08 GMT
Organization: land of strange wizards
Message-ID: <727on4$fa1$3@news.seicom.net>
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In <QqFpRXS00iWT08ngM0@andrew.cmu.edu> George B Haff wrote:
> it appears as though someone is hacking up our subnet, and i want to see
> the packets that enter and leave my machines...
> i own, among other things, black hw running ns3.3 user
> ...so unfortunately i cannot compile the source of tcpdump found on
peanuts..
> does anyone have or know where i can get a next binary of it?
> thanks alot,
> -george
>
See my homepage http://www.this.net/~frank in the download section, m68k
binary is coming soon...
--
Frank M. Siegert [frank@wizards.de] [frank@this.net]
From: no@spam.please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Postscript problem when printing
Date: 9 Nov 1998 21:59:42 GMT
Organization: land of strange wizards
Message-ID: <727oke$fa1$2@news.seicom.net>
References: <1998Nov8.132734.472@news.online.de>
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In <1998Nov8.132734.472@news.online.de> Thomas F. Unke wrote:
> I had a look at the Postscript file which defines fonts with FINDFONT
>
> /FINDFONT {
> { findfont } stopped
> { /Times-Roman findfont } if
> } bd
>
Whoever wrote this PS code should be shot on sight...
Prepend this to the PS-File, and edit as you like, it defines a replacement
for fonts not available and must be extended by the user. It is only a fast
hack, but it should do the trick...
%!PS-Adobe-3.0
% above line is just a fake to suite Preview.app
/sysfindfont /findfont load def
/findfont {
dup /Palatino-Bold eq { pop /Times-Bold } if
dup /Palatino eq { pop /Times-Roman } if
% repeat for every font you like to have replaced
% but keep in mind the spacing of placed text is not affected and may look
pretty bad
sysfindfont
} bind def
> Any idea ? The PS-File is supposed to be PS-Level-3. Are there any
> incompatibilities with PS-3 ?
I believe you mean conforms to the Structure Conventions Version 3.0 (a
%!PS-Adobe-3.0 header does not imply the code is using Level 3)
BTW the NeXT uses Times-Roman, just look inside /NextLibrary/Fonts
--
Frank M. Siegert [frank@wizards.de] [frank@this.net]
From: cejensen@REMOVE.THIS.TO.REPLY.winternet.com (Christian Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP: discuss it
Date: 10 Nov 1998 01:10:39 GMT
Organization: Legion of Free-Thinkers
Message-ID: <7283qf$6av$1@blackice.winternet.com>
References: <7204hp$kl6$2@pith.uoregon.edu> <726a09$k9h@lutra.sztaki.hu>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Nov 1998 01:10:39 GMT
You (Balazs Pataki <balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu>) wrote
in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 9 Nov 1998 08:43:53 GMT:
[...]
> 6. And at the end, the current problems regarding a port in a way or
> the other:
[...]
> - For a NEXTSTEP port:
> * Complete frontend GUI desing (or compiling GNUStep, and
> sharing code with the OPENSTEP port, see below)
I'd like to encourage you to work on this rather than an X or OpenStep port. A NEXTSTEP version would probably run on OpenStep as well, and would therefore serve the largest audience among the NS/OS community, many of whom have not and are not eager to move to OpenStep or Rhapsody.
Thanks,
--Chris
**************************
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From: leigh@NOSPAMcs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need conversion of WriteNow documents to RTF
Date: 10 Nov 1998 03:03:28 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Message-ID: <728ae0$kk2$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au>
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Would some kind soul still running WriteNow be prepared to convert three .wn
documents to .rtfd for me as part of my effort to convert the MusicKit to run
on OpenStep and Rhapsody? Some of the documentation is still in this old
format. Shouldn't take long...
Many thanks
--
Leigh Computer Music Lab, Computer Science Dept,
Smith University of Western Australia
+61-8-9380-2279 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME)
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From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP: discuss it
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 22:12:55 -0600
Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <distler-0911982213210001@192.168.0.1>
References: <7204hp$kl6$2@pith.uoregon.edu> <726a09$k9h@lutra.sztaki.hu>
/gnVR"|LWyKVK{`$&t&`k{]Q^x*"ihe+^hTvWs@IEMtYI5RVzGFBPcMu`}>@#^Fm:<)M
w83/\[@#\u?TVrF3fqDjK?
In article <726a09$k9h@lutra.sztaki.hu>, balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu (Balazs
Pataki) wrote:
>3. NexZilla currently runs only on Sparc hadware, but I wrote
> the NEXTSTEP specific codes so, that in theory they should compile for
> i486 (White/Intel) and m68k (Black) as well.
Let me put in a strong vote for supporting HP hardware as well.
> . . . The other option for having a native-code Netscape browser on
> our desktop is to port the X frontend to NS/OS and use a X window
> server like XNext or CubX. The problem with this approach is that
> Mozilla with the "old layout" engine uses Motif, which isn't available
> for NS/OS for free. However, the NGLayout based new Mozilla will use,
> GTK, which is free, and I already started porting it to NS ;-) So,
> a short term solution for our Navigator hunger could be an X/GTK
> port of the "new" Mozilla. That's what I'm considering now.
> As OPENSTEP and especially NEXTSTEP is dying, I don't know how
> feasible would it be to start an AppKit port... (We could steal some
> codes and ideas from the Rhapsody project, but.)
An X port would be OK. An AppKit port would be great.
HP and SPARC are still quite viable hardware platforms, but they will
never see a version of Rhapsody. So, in that sense, there is a "market"
out there which will not be superceded by Rhapsody/OS X Server.
>6. And at the end, the current problems regarding a port in a way or
> the other:
>
> - The NS/OS compiler is way too old, we need gcc 2.7.2 for proper
> C++ compilation
> (gcc 2.7.2 is already ported to i486/m68k by Rex Dieter, and I
> quite have it for sparc as well)
No HP, huh? Could be a problem . . .
> - The big problem: the easiest way for me to port Mozilla was to
> use the posix functions avilable in NEXTSTEP. However, the posix
> support is dropped from OPENSTEP, so that's a question how
> we can handle this ...
Compile under NEXTSTEP, all statically-linked?
JD
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From: balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu (Balazs Pataki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP: discuss it
Date: 10 Nov 1998 07:22:49 GMT
Organization: Computer and Automation Institute
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <728pk9$prb@lutra.sztaki.hu>
References: <7271uv$hte$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
In article <7271uv$hte$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> heller@lrz.de (Helmut
Heller) writes:
> In article <726a09$k9h@lutra.sztaki.hu> balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu (Balazs
> Pataki) writes:
> > - For an X port:
> > * Port GTK (I guess Helmut Heller has ported GIMP to NEXTSTEP,
> > and because GTK is based in the GIMP graphical library, the
> > GTK port must "just work").
>
> That's right. If I remember correctly, both, the older gtk1.0 (needed for
> GIMP) as well as the newer gtk1.1 (needed for GTK-ICQ) compiled without major
> problems. If you need help here, just let me know.
Thanx, I just compiled GTK yesterday and it works all right so far :-)
Bye,
---
balazs
From: balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu (Balazs Pataki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP: discuss it
Date: 10 Nov 1998 07:37:02 GMT
Organization: Computer and Automation Institute
Message-ID: <728qeu$qpq@lutra.sztaki.hu>
References: <7283qf$6av$1@blackice.winternet.com>
In article <7283qf$6av$1@blackice.winternet.com>
cejensen@REMOVE.THIS.TO.REPLY.winternet.com (Christian Jensen) writes:
> You (Balazs Pataki <balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu>) wrote
> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 9 Nov 1998 08:43:53 GMT:
> [...]
> > 6. And at the end, the current problems regarding a port in a way or
> > the other:
> [...]
> > - For a NEXTSTEP port:
> > * Complete frontend GUI desing (or compiling GNUStep, and
> > sharing code with the OPENSTEP port, see below)
>
> I'd like to encourage you to work on this rather than an X or OpenStep port.
> A NEXTSTEP version would probably run on OpenStep as well, and would
> therefore serve the largest audience among the NS/OS community, many of whom
> have not and are not eager to move to OpenStep or Rhapsody.
Once I (we) have the Mozilla backend ported to NEXTSTEP compiling the X
frontend (based on GTK) should be simple, so I guess an X based port will be
produced anyway at least for testing the backend.
At this time I don't know how big deal it is to code the NEXTSTEP frontend, but
if I have the time and support, I'll try to give it a shot, of course. (I use
NEXTSTEP myself, so from this point of view I prefer the NEXTSTEP frontend.
However, regarding the API and code-sharing OPENSTEP would be a better choice.
In code-sharing I mean:
- we could get ideas/code from the Rhapsody port
- with an OPENSTEPish Mozilla we could give GNUStep a bit of boost)
Bye,
---
balazs
From: David Hill <daveyohill@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: The Gimp for NeXT?
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 10:56:28 +0000
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Awhile ago there was a thread pertaining to the porting of The Gimp
image editing software to NeXTSTEP. What ever became of that. Is it
available? For NS3.3??
From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Andrew Knight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Postscript problem when printing
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 16:55:55 GMT
Message-ID: <910544155.11135.0.nnrp-02.c30b1c0b@news.demon.co.uk>
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In <1998Nov8.132734.472@news.online.de> Thomas F. Unke wrote:
>
> I print from a Linux box (Applixware) an my Next. Applixware uses the font
> "Palatino" which is not available on the Next. The Next prints in Courier,
> which looks quite bad.
Actually you can use nearly all the major PS based fonts on NEXT/OPENSTEP by
purchasing the Mac or PC format and using one the font conversion tools on
the archives.
We hold 290+ Adobe fonts and 750+ Monotype fonts pre-converted for our
customers.
--
Regards David Knight
OneStep Solutions Plc
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing fonts in NS 3.3
Date: 9 Nov 98 07:59:22
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
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<725h74$p99@obi-wan.fdt.net>
In-reply-to: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion's message of 9 Nov 1998 01:40:52 GMT
In article <725h74$p99@obi-wan.fdt.net>,
luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) writes:
In <F23t2r.C8@heller.altoetting-online.de> heller@altoetting-online.de wrote:
> I always forget about this myself, too, since I don't install
> fonts every other day but only now and then. I guess in real NeXT
> manner, this should be done automatically, but it isn't ...sigh.
I believe that if you put them into ~/Library/Fonts/ then it is done
automatically for apps which you start _after_ that.
If you put them into /LocalLibrary/Fonts/ it is not done
automatically, assumably because they figured anyone running the
system could figure it out.
Or because /LocalLibrary/Fonts isn't necessarily writable by the
current user...
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mathematica and NS3.3
Message-ID: <2tGPFwcWufE5@cc.usu.edu>
From: edx@cc.usu.edu
Date: 10 Nov 98 08:25:23 MDT
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In <727fm3$d2b$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> smithwNOSPAM@tankNOSPAM.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith) wrote:
> >
> >I have cube with Mathematica 2.1 and I did a dump of the file system
> >onto a new disk which is installed in a bw slab. However,
> >Mathematica no longer runs. Instead it complains about a bad
> >"mathpass" file. Anyone know how to fix this?? I'd like to get
> >the cube off my desk. Help!
>
> The Mathematica password is specific to the machines ethernet
> address. What you should do is request a license transfer from
> Wolfram.
I disagree. I was able to get Mathematica to run on a new slab
by making sure the new machine had the same hostname and the same
hostid as the old machine. Of course, you have to have the utility
HostID.app to be able to change the hostid to an arbitrary value.
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mathematica on NeXTstep 3.3
Date: 10 Nov 1998 09:42:33 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <729tu9$k9p@slip.net>
References: <19981107013449.03049.00000431@ng149.aol.com> <3646c142.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
>
>This was a special agreement for academics buying some early NeXTmachine 6 to
>8 years ago. It was Mathematica 1.0 in bundle with the machine, I think.
>Today if you are a student, you have to spend more then $1k (at least here in
>Germany) for a new version of Mathematica, cause black NeXTs are treated as
>workstations and PII 400MHz with Win98 not :-(. (and as special
>Wolfram-offer: 700 British Pounds for an upgrade of my unlimited
>internatinonal version of 2.0 :-(( ).
I upgraded to Ma 3.0.1 on my ND for $250. I had a 2.1.2 license before that.
Emmett
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From: tom@qhukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Subject: Re: Drivers for white hardware
Message-ID: <F209oq.1pF@hurka.UUCP>
Keywords: nextstep driver
Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka)
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References: <71fjh4$n00$1@autumn.news.rcn.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:00:25 GMT
Hi J. Lee,
In article <71fjh4$n00$1@autumn.news.rcn.net> echo4@NOSPAM.erols.com
--delete NOSPAM writes:
> My guest is that, since they have release the Driver kit for
> OS4.2, I can't imagine, Apple wasting more resources on Intel
> drivers (although, I am sure that some of the newer video cards
> will be adapted for this Intel release of MacOS X server). I am
> not very familiar with writing NeXT drivers nor in that matter
> any hardware drivers for different OSes. But, I would imagine
> that the basic code source used in the XFree86 effort, could be
> used to make OS4.2 with a little help from our new Driver kit,
> similiar to the way BE OS is making Intel drivers with the help
> of XFree. Anybody familiar in this matter should speak up and
> explain to us, what need to be done.
I am familiar in writing drivers for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP and I can tell that
writing drivers for NEXTSTEP is a little easier than writing driver for
other operating systems. Driver Kit saves you a lot of coding and you can
concentrate on the communication with the card, while the interaction with
the operating system is, in most cases, done by Driver Kit. From my point
of view the hardest thing is to get the technical documentation from the
manufacturer and to get the card itself. Source code for the driver from
XFree or Linux can be used instead of the technical documentation, but
having it is definitely better. Theoretically you can use some code from
the XFree/Linux code directly, but this does not helps you much if you
don't have the technical documentation.
Best regards,
--
Tomas Hurka
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing fonts in NS 3.3
Date: 8 Nov 1998 19:13:04 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <3644E3DA.63A5@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <19981108141304.17340.00001407@ng86.aol.com>
Hmm, you may have permissions problems.
I'd suggest putting them in ~/Library/Fonts instead, or perhaps
~/LocalLibrary/Fonts make sure that the . files in the Fonts directory are
writable by you (~/Library/Fonts) and log out/in to invoke an auto-install.
Make sure that wherever they are that they're set to be readable/executable by
everyone for whom it makes sense to have them so (the directory executable, the
internals readable).
If they're still not showing up after logging in/out (though any newer
application should invoke an automatic installation of new fonts), manually run
buildafmdir and cacheAFMdata (note the capitalization)
Hope this helps!
William
William Adams
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From: heller@altoetting-online.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing fonts in NS 3.3
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:52:03 GMT
Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller
Sender: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller)
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In article <3644E3DA.63A5@earthlink.net> David Hill
<daveyohill@earthlink.net> writes:
> I've downloaded a few fonts from Peak, un tar'd them with Opener and
> dropped them into NeXTLibrary/Fonts. Why don't they show up in
> OpenWrite, Create or other Apps?
>
> Regards,
>
> David
>
As has been pointed out several times before in this forum, you first have
to install them, that is call
buildafmdir <directory>
I always forget about this myself, too, since I don't install fonts every
other day but only now and then. I guess in real NeXT manner, this should
be done automatically, but it isn't ...sigh.
Helmut
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From: Michael_Humphries-Dolnick.nospam@wdr.com (Michael Humphries-Dolnick)
Subject: Re: Single User Login:
Message-ID: <1998Nov9.211431.14159@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <363D0341.30B45A8E@usa.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:14:31 GMT
In article <363D0341.30B45A8E@usa.net> BB <bb_28@usa.net> writes:
> Hi All , I bought NeXT color Turbo (No Manual ,No Boot Disk , No
> NEXTSTEP CD......) ,That's O.K I Love Black NeXT!!! Now my first
> Problem is How to Login !
> Can I do Boot in single user mode supplying '-s' to the boot prompt.
Yes.
--
Michael Humphries-Dolnick
"My opinions, not my employer's"
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing fonts in NS 3.3
Date: 8 Nov 1998 20:29:51 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <3644E3DA.63A5@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <19981108152951.17686.00001607@ng91.aol.com>
Sorry to reply to my own post, but two things real quick:
One, apparently it's cachAFMData, not cachAFMdata.
Two, there's a NeXTAnswer on this topic which seems pretty comprehensive and
has some interesting info on the Lexi font for example.
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2648.htmld/2648.html
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PIM for Nextstep?
Date: 11 Nov 1998 01:17:06 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <72a0t3$1rb$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <19981110201706.23038.00002983@ng90.aol.com>
Depends on what you mean by PIM.
For calendar/scheduling stuff, there's Chronographer.app
<www.chronographer.com> available as a commercial, time limited demo and
Cassandra.app (the source code is out there)
For task management, there's RZ2DoList.app, available from
http://www.running-start.com/
For contact information, there's the buil-in address book, and there's a
shareware program that uses this format as well.
I've left unlisted the orphaned commercial apps, sBook, NoteBook.app, OnDuty,
etc.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: tb303@earthlink.net (dave-g)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: hardware password ? Help!
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:24:00 -0500
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <tb303-1011982124020001@1cust14.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net>
i have gotten a few old cubes that were set up for a network environment.
when i fired them up i just got a standard login screen (after a lot of
error messages regarding the lack of network activity).
since i had no idea what the password was, i put in the nextstep installer
floppy and the nextstep 3.3 cdrom. it booted off of the floppy (actually
i think that the cd did most of the work) and then asked me where i'd like
to install nextstep 3.3, it recommended only one choice (the maxstor 325
meg hd that was already in there). and then procceded to give a list of
all the goodies that it was placing on the drive. a few minutes later, it
said all was well and hit return to reboot. i did. when i came back up,
it went through some of the boot process and then stopped and asked me for
a hardware password. a tried to hit return and go about my business but it
gave me 3 tries (i missed all 3 times) and then it booted me out and
shutdown.
does anyone know what i can do to just start fresh with this thing?! and
have it not keep asking for passwords that i don't know.
also, i am very new to the next world, so please don't be too harsh on
this newbie ;)
thanks in advance,
dave-g
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mathematica and NS3.3
Message-ID: <KkbqLNxJQzTh@cc.usu.edu>
From: edx@cc.usu.edu
Date: 10 Nov 98 15:54:52 MDT
References: <ygc67co1z10.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me>
<727fm3$d2b$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <2tGPFwcWufE5@cc.usu.edu> <72a3ip$kpb$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
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In <72a3ip$kpb$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> edx@cc.usu.edu wrote:
> >I disagree. I was able to get Mathematica to run on a new slab
> >by making sure the new machine had the same hostname and the same
> >hostid as the old machine. Of course, you have to have the utility
> >HostID.app to be able to change the hostid to an arbitrary value.
>
> But that's illegal, isn't it ;-) seriously, I vaguely remember there
> was an app that could change hostids. Is it black only?
It was source. I still have it somewhere. It still compiles and runs
on OS4.2 Black and White. However, you can't use this method to transfer
a black license to white. I never bothered to figure out why - I needed
to upgrade to a newer version by that time.
From: Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help - start problem
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 22:07:27 GMT
Organization: EUnet Belgium, Leuven, Belgium
Message-ID: <724563$886$1@news3.Belgium.EU.net>
References: <71aemu$lc8$1@news3.Belgium.EU.net>
Maybe something that give some light in the problem:
after od1 at odc0 slave 1 there was no more reaction ...
with the 2 command keys and ~ I have the following reaction:
nmi: pc 0x409f53e sr 0x2300 isp 0x40010sc ksp 0x4001074 usp
0x0
nmi> (that is it....
I type "log on" - on ne sait jamais ... -))))
reaction:
kernel flag log unknown
commands are :
gdb - break to debugger
etc ...
re boot
halt
....;
nmi> (waiting)
I type halt and the reaction:
next>
power off
.....
I hope to receive the solution ...... I used the Next for
write now and admit ignorance!!!
Arnold
Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten) wrote:
>Help,
>My next cube has the following problem:
>He starts up : start from rom monitor
>scsi target 0, lun 0
>Then in Next Mach operating system
>Next rom monitor 1.0 v 41
>Next Mach 3.3
>fpu version 0x0
>memory 16 m
>available 14.07 me
>using 102 buffers ...
>scsi controller 53c90a target 7, as sc0 at 0x2014000
>microp. nr .. as sd0 at sc0 target 0, lun 0
>Maxtor nr.. as sd1 at sc0 target 1, lun 0
>sony cd rom as sd2 at sc0 target 3 ,lun 0
>quantum as sd3 at sc0 target 6 ,lun 0
>generic scsi device as sg0 at sc0 target 7, lun 7
> gene.... sg1 .....;idem ...;
> gene...; sg2 ... idem ....;
> gene... sg 3 idem ...
>odc0 at 0x2012000
>od0 at odc0 slave 0
>od1 at odc0 slave 1
>--------
>at this point al stops :-((((
>What must be done, please help
>arnold
From: cdvorak@earthlink.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Postscript problem when printing
Date: 9 Nov 1998 01:33:40 GMT
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If the cut of the face is not important to you, you can make a proxy Palatino
out of Times.
1) Duplicate the four versions of Times. found in /NextLibrary/Fonts.
2) One by one open them up.
3) Change all occurences of the word Times to Palatino in the afm and printer
files.
4) Rename all of the files by changing the word Times to Palatino.
5) Leave the weight alone (i.e. -Italic, -Bold, -BoldItalic) except for
-Roman.
6) Change all occurences of the word -Roman to -Regular.
7) Open a shell as superuser and type buildafmdir.
The result is that all postscript files that call Palatino will use these
fonts, but print Times.
The widths of Times and Palatino are pretty close. You might get a few
irregular line breaks.
Best bet is to do what the other followup suggested and get a Mac Palatino
and convert it.
I have converted most of the Adobe font library to Next and they almost all
work perfectly.
email me if you have any problems.
cd
In <1998Nov8.132734.472@news.online.de> Thomas F. Unke wrote:
>
> I print from a Linux box (Applixware) an my Next. Applixware uses the font
> "Palatino" which is not available on the Next. The Next prints in Courier,
> which looks quite bad.
>
> I had a look at the Postscript file which defines fonts with FINDFONT
>
> /FINDFONT {
> { findfont } stopped
> { /Times-Roman findfont } if
> } bd
>
> [...]
>
> /DEFINEFONTS {
> /AXFont3p180000 /Palatino-Bold FINDFONT 18.000 POINTSCALEFONT def
> /AXFont3p120000 /Palatino-Bold FINDFONT 12.000 POINTSCALEFONT def
> [...]
>
>
> It probably means, if the font is not found, use Times-Roman.
Unfortunately,
> the Next doesn't use Times-Roman. If I edit the PS-File, replacing Palatino
> with Times, the pages print fine.
>
> Any idea ? The PS-File is supposed to be PS-Level-3. Are there any
> incompatibilities with PS-3 ?
>
>
>
>
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Postscript problem when printing
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:27:34 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
Sender: thomas@news.online.de (thomas)
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I print from a Linux box (Applixware) an my Next. Applixware uses the font
"Palatino" which is not available on the Next. The Next prints in Courier,
which looks quite bad.
I had a look at the Postscript file which defines fonts with FINDFONT
/FINDFONT {
{ findfont } stopped
{ /Times-Roman findfont } if
} bd
[...]
/DEFINEFONTS {
/AXFont3p180000 /Palatino-Bold FINDFONT 18.000 POINTSCALEFONT def
/AXFont3p120000 /Palatino-Bold FINDFONT 12.000 POINTSCALEFONT def
[...]
It probably means, if the font is not found, use Times-Roman. Unfortunately,
the Next doesn't use Times-Roman. If I edit the PS-File, replacing Palatino
with Times, the pages print fine.
Any idea ? The PS-File is supposed to be PS-Level-3. Are there any
incompatibilities with PS-3 ?
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: tcpdump compiled?
Date: 10 Nov 1998 22:52:02 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <72bc6i$grb@slip.net>
References: <QqFpRXS00iWT08ngM0@andrew.cmu.edu>
George B Haff <haff+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>...so unfortunately i cannot compile the source of tcpdump found on peanuts..
>does anyone have or know where i can get a next binary of it?
Happy to give you mine if it can be used ...
I compiled the version at peak on both black and white hardware.
No errors.
When I run it I get the following :
#/usr/local/tcpdump/bin/tcpdump -d
tcpdump: BIOCVERSION: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: "Danny Zabhi" <Danny@dzabhi.freeserve.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: blobbys
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:53:59 -0000
Organization: Customer of Planet Online
Message-ID: <729qta$9kl$1@newsreader1.core.theplanet.net>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Nov 1998 16:50:50 GMT
hi anyone want some blobbys email me at danny@dzabhi.freeserve.co.uk
From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mathematica and NS3.3
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:05:45 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
Sender: thomas@news.online.de (thomas)
Message-ID: <1998Nov10.220545.691@news.online.de>
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In <72a3ip$kpb$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> edx@cc.usu.edu wrote:
> >I disagree. I was able to get Mathematica to run on a new slab
> >by making sure the new machine had the same hostname and the same
> >hostid as the old machine. Of course, you have to have the utility
> >HostID.app to be able to change the hostid to an arbitrary value.
>
> But that's illegal, isn't it ;-) seriously, I vaguely remember there
> was an app that could change hostids. Is it black only?
/* decripple-sethostid.c -- fix NeXT's crippled sethostid()
* Eric P. Scott, San Francisco State University, November 1991
* Revised for 3.0, March 1993
*
* This program will not overwrite your existing kernel. You must
* specify an output file to receive the modified copy.
*
* Example:
* # decripple-sethostid /xxmach
* [shut down]
* NeXT> bsd()xxmach
*
* This software is provided "as-is" with absolutely no warranty.
*
* N.B. don't try compiling this with -object; it won't work!
*
*
* Explanation, for those that care:
*
* NeXT didn't remove sethostid() from the kernel--they merely
* munged its dispatch vector in the version of sdmach they
* distribute to customers.
*
* Every UNIX system call is assigned a number;
* sethostid() is #143 <syscall.h>
*
* These numbers are used to index into the "sysent" array.
* Each element is an 8-byte structure: <sys/systm.h>
*
* struct sysent
* {
* short sy_narg; /* total number of arguments */
* short sy_parallel; /* can execute in parallel */
* int (*sy_call)(); /* handler */
* } sysent[];
*
* This is what NeXT ships:
*
* sysent[143] = { 0, 1, errsys }
* errsys always fails with EINVAL
*
* This is what it's supposed to be:
*
* sysent[143] = { 1, 1, sethostid }
* this is the code that's supposed to be executed
*
* Once you make this change, sethostid() will work the way it's
* supposed to, the hostid(1) command should work as documented.
This is the sethostid() patch for NS3.1 (black) (NS/FIP should pose no
problem since the number is always zero):
--- CUT HERE ---
665598 0 1
665603 122 100
665604 360 274
--- CUT HERE ---
*/
#ifndef BOGUS_HEADER_LOCATIONS
#include <stdio.h>
#include <nlist.h>
#include <syscall.h>
#include <sys/fcntl.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/stat.h>
#include <sys/systm.h>
#include <mach.h>
#include <mach_error.h>
#include <sys/loader.h>
/* remove the following line to compile on a 1.0/1.0a system */
#include <libc.h>
#else
/* 3.0, yech */
#include <ansi/stdio.h>
#include <mach-o/nlist.h>
#include <bsd/syscall.h>
#include <bsd/sys/fcntl.h>
#include <bsd/sys/types.h>
#include <bsd/sys/stat.h>
#include <bsd/sys/systm.h>
#include <mach/mach.h>
#include <mach/mach_error.h>
#include <mach-o/loader.h>
#include <bsd/libc.h>
#endif
struct nlist nl[]={
{ { "_errsys" } },
{ { "_sethostid" } },
{ { "_sysent" } },
{ { (char *)NULL } }
};
int
main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
char *sysfile;
int s, f;
struct stat st;
char *mhp;
const struct section *sect;
struct sysent *sep;
if (argc<2||argc>3) {
(void)fprintf(stderr, "Usage: %s [system] new-system\n",
*argv);
exit(1);
}
sysfile=argc>2 ? argv[1] : "/sdmach";
if (nlist(sysfile, nl)<0) {
perror(sysfile);
exit(1);
}
s=sizeof nl/sizeof nl[0]-2; do if (nl[s].n_type!=(N_EXT|N_SECT)) {
(void)fprintf(stderr, "%s: can't find %s in %s\n",
*argv, nl[s].n_un.n_name, sysfile);
exit(1);
} while (--s>=0);
if ((f=open(sysfile, O_RDONLY))<0) {
perror(sysfile);
exit(1);
}
(void)fstat(f, &st);
if ((st.st_mode&S_IFMT)!=S_IFREG) {
(void)fprintf(stderr, "%s: not a regular file\n", sysfile);
(void)close(f);
exit(1);
}
mhp=(char *)NULL;
if ((s=map_fd(f, (vm_offset_t)0, (vm_offset_t *)&mhp, TRUE,
(vm_size_t)st.st_size))!=KERN_SUCCESS) {
mach_error("map_fd", s);
(void)close(f);
exit(1);
}
if (((struct mach_header *)mhp)->magic!=MH_MAGIC) {
(void)fprintf(stderr, "%s: not a Mach-O file\n", sysfile);
goto byebye;
}
if (((struct mach_header *)mhp)->filetype!=MH_PRELOAD&&
((struct mach_header *)mhp)->filetype!=MH_EXECUTE) {
(void)fprintf(stderr, "%s: not an executable file\n",
sysfile);
goto byebye;
}
sect=getsectbynamefromheader((struct mach_header *)mhp,
SEG_DATA, SECT_DATA);
if (!sect) {
(void)fprintf(stderr, "%s: can't find (%s,%s)\n", sysfile,
SEG_DATA, SECT_DATA);
goto byebye;
}
sep=&((struct sysent *)(nl[2].n_value-sect->addr+sect->offset+mhp))
[SYS_sethostid];
if (sep->sy_call==(int (*)())nl[1].n_value) {
(void)fprintf(stderr, "%s: doesn't appear to be crippled\n",
sysfile);
goto byebye;
}
if (sep->sy_call!=(int (*)())nl[0].n_value) {
(void)fprintf(stderr, "%s: doesn't vector to errsys?!?\n",
sysfile);
goto byebye;
}
if ((s=open(argv[argc-1], O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0444))<0) {
perror(argv[argc-1]);
goto byebye;
}
sep->sy_call=(int (*)())nl[1].n_value;
sep->sy_narg=1;
(void)fputs("writing...\n", stderr);
if (write(s, mhp, st.st_size)!=st.st_size) {
perror("write");
(void)unlink(argv[argc-1]);
}
else if (fsync(s)<0) perror("fsync");
(void)close(s);
byebye:
(void)vm_deallocate(task_self(), (vm_address_t)mhp,
(vm_size_t)st.st_size);
(void)close(f);
exit(0);
}
From: balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu (Balazs Pataki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Netscape for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP: discuss it
Date: 9 Nov 1998 08:43:53 GMT
Organization: Computer and Automation Institute
Message-ID: <726a09$k9h@lutra.sztaki.hu>
References: <7204hp$kl6$2@pith.uoregon.edu>
Keywords: Netscape, Mozilla, Navigator, NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, port
Hi all,
In article <7204hp$kl6$2@pith.uoregon.edu> Charlie Root
<root@azrael.uoregon.edu> writes:
> Balazs Pataki <balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu> wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, I didn't have the time to update it for the new
> > source trees (mine is about 1.5 month old ...), and commit the
NEXTSTEP
> > specific canges back to the CVS guys at mozilla.org.
>
> Does this mean there is a mozilla port in progress for next/openstep?!?!
>
I recieved some e-mails asking about the status of my Mozilla port, so
here are the facts (lets call my "product" NexZilla)
1. There's no official port of Mozilla for NEXT/OPENSTEP, but there is
one for Rhapsody (Mac OS X [Server]). However, the Rhapsody hackers
are willing to add any NEXT/OPENSTEP specific codes to the sources
as they are available. It's my sin that my changes are not there
yet :-(
2. My original attempt was to port the NSPR (Netscape Portable Runtime
Library [the thing that makes the mozilla backend protable]) to
NEXTSTEP, but as it was quite easy I thought I could
make the whole Mozilla thang compile on my SPARCStation 20
NEXTSTEP box.
3. NexZilla currently runs only on Sparc hadware, but I wrote
the NEXTSTEP specific codes so, that in theory they should compile for
i486 (White/Intel) and m68k (Black) as well.
4. NexZilla doesn't have a GUI, it is just a command line prog, which
works like so:
1> mozilla http://www.mozilla.org
%!PS-Adobe-3.0
%%BoundingBox: 54 72 558 720
%%Creator: Mozilla (NetScape) HTML->PS
%%DocumentData: Clean7Bit
[lots of PS code here]
2>
In words: it takes a URL and dumps its content to stdout as PostScript,
which then can be opened with Prewier.app.
All this hacking is done using the printing routines of Mozilla, no
NEXTSTEP specific code here.
5. The Mozilla frontends are under major rewrite as the Netscape guys
are switching from the "old layout engine" (the thing that displays
the HTML in a GUI) to "NGLayout" (the New Generation Layout engine).
So, if the NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP community wants a NS/OS frontend for
Mozilla this is the right time to do so. While the new layout engine
is easy to use, and its connection to the front-end is quite
straightforward it's not trivial to code the frontend.
(NOTE: NexZilla uses the "old layout engine", NGLayout not ported
yet). The other option for having a native-code Netscape browser on
our desktop is to port the X frontend to NS/OS and use a X window
server like XNext or CubX. The problem with this approach is that
Mozilla with the "old layout" engine uses Motif, which isn't available
for NS/OS for free. However, the NGLayout based new Mozilla will use,
GTK, which is free, and I already started porting it to NS ;-) So,
a short term solution for our Navigator hunger could be an X/GTK
port of the "new" Mozilla. That's what I'm considering now.
As OPENSTEP and especially NEXTSTEP is dying, I don't know how
feasible would it be to start an AppKit port... (We could steal some
codes and ideas from the Rhapsody project, but.)
6. And at the end, the current problems regarding a port in a way or
the other:
- The NS/OS compiler is way too old, we need gcc 2.7.2 for proper
C++ compilation
(gcc 2.7.2 is already ported to i486/m68k by Rex Dieter, and I
quite have it for sparc as well)
- The following major items need to be ported from Mozilla:
* NSPR (if it hasn't changed much since my port, then it is
not a big deal)
* All the non-GUI Mozilla packages (these are also quite easy
to port).
* NGLayout (dunno)
- The big problem: the easiest way for me to port Mozilla was to
use the posix functions avilable in NEXTSTEP. However, the posix
support is dropped from OPENSTEP, so that's a question how
we can handle this ...
- For an X port:
* Port GTK (I guess Helmut Heller has ported GIMP to NEXTSTEP,
and because GTK is based in the GIMP graphical library, the
GTK port must "just work").
- For a NEXTSTEP port:
* Complete frontend GUI desing (or compiling GNUStep, and
sharing code with the OPENSTEP port, see below)
- For an OPENSTEP port:
* Steal as many code as possible from the Rhapsody FE
* Code the rest (or steal the missing pieces from GNUStep)
So, that's how I see the Mozilla thing right now. I would definitley be
happy to have a decent browser on my desktop, and I guess most of you too.
If you have any comments or interest in having Navigator for
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP, or are willing to port it to our beloved platform(s),
please tell me (or through this group to all the others).
Bye,
---
balazs
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Subject: Re: mathematica on NeXTstep 3.3
References: <19981107013449.03049.00000431@ng149.aol.com>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3646c142.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 9 Nov 98 10:17:38 GMT
fluids@aol.com (Fluids) wrote:
>hi there, i was wondering if NeXTstep 3.3 had mathematica included, i
>recall it coming on an earlier version (2.0 i think). just curious,
>since mathematica is one hell of an expensive program. thank you much.
>brandon
This was a special agreement for academics buying some early NeXTmachine 6 to
8 years ago. It was Mathematica 1.0 in bundle with the machine, I think.
Today if you are a student, you have to spend more then $1k (at least here in
Germany) for a new version of Mathematica, cause black NeXTs are treated as
workstations and PII 400MHz with Win98 not :-(. (and as special
Wolfram-offer: 700 British Pounds for an upgrade of my unlimited
internatinonal version of 2.0 :-(( ).
Sven
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From: "Brendan Rankin" <rankin@indigo.ie>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing Openstep and Redhat linux
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:33:10 +0000
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I am hoping to install Openstep alongside Redhat linux on the same machine.
Has anybody done this? I was wondering which I should install first, info on
partitioning, etc. Does it work in dual-boot, ie- like Openstep alongside
windows?
Thanks in advance
Brendan Rankin
rankin@indigo.ie
From: jeff@jeff.cims.rit.edu (Jeff Sciortino)
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Subject: Re: Need conversion of WriteNow documents to RTF
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OpenWrite should be able to handle the conversion. It's available free from
the peak archive in the Apps/Lighthouse area.
If that won't work for you send them to me, i can pull out an old copy of
writeNow and do the conversion for you.
best of luck.
-Jeff
In <728ae0$kk2$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> Leigh Smith wrote:
> Would some kind soul still running WriteNow be prepared to convert three
.wn
> documents to .rtfd for me as part of my effort to convert the MusicKit to
run
> on OpenStep and Rhapsody? Some of the documentation is still in this old
> format. Shouldn't take long...
>
> Many thanks
>
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From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP: discuss it
Date: 9 Nov 1998 15:32:47 GMT
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In article <726a09$k9h@lutra.sztaki.hu> balazs.pataki@sztaki.hu (Balazs
Pataki) writes:
> - For an X port:
> * Port GTK (I guess Helmut Heller has ported GIMP to NEXTSTEP,
> and because GTK is based in the GIMP graphical library, the
> GTK port must "just work").
That's right. If I remember correctly, both, the older gtk1.0 (needed for
GIMP) as well as the newer gtk1.1 (needed for GTK-ICQ) compiled without major
problems. If you need help here, just let me know.
Helmut
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From: smithwNOSPAM@tank.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mathematica and NS3.3
Date: 11 Nov 1998 17:53:32 -0700
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Ah, Eric Scott. One of my favorite old NeXTites. Anyone know if
he is still around on these newsgroups? Very helpful and knowledgeable
guy.
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It doesn't matter which one you install first. NeXT must reside within
the first two gigs of the physical drive it is on. LILO boots NeXT just
fine.
Brendan Rankin wrote:
>
> I am hoping to install Openstep alongside Redhat linux on the same machine.
> Has anybody done this? I was wondering which I should install first, info on
> partitioning, etc. Does it work in dual-boot, ie- like Openstep alongside
> windows?
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From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
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Subject: Re: hardware password ? Help!
Date: 11 Nov 1998 17:25:09 GMT
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In <tb303-1011982124020001@1cust14.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net> dave-g wrote:
> i have gotten a few old cubes that were set up for a network environment.
> when i fired them up i just got a standard login screen (after a lot of
> error messages regarding the lack of network activity).
>
> since i had no idea what the password was, i put in the nextstep installer
> floppy and the nextstep 3.3 cdrom. it booted off of the floppy (actually
> i think that the cd did most of the work) and then asked me where i'd like
> to install nextstep 3.3, it recommended only one choice (the maxstor 325
> meg hd that was already in there). and then procceded to give a list of
> all the goodies that it was placing on the drive. a few minutes later, it
> said all was well and hit return to reboot. i did. when i came back up,
> it went through some of the boot process and then stopped and asked me for
> a hardware password. a tried to hit return and go about my business but it
> gave me 3 tries (i missed all 3 times) and then it booted me out and
> shutdown.
>
> does anyone know what i can do to just start fresh with this thing?! and
> have it not keep asking for passwords that i don't know.
>
> also, i am very new to the next world, so please don't be too harsh on
> this newbie ;)
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> dave-g
>
Check out Tim Luoma's FAQ
http://www.peak.org/~luomat/FAQs/?
I'm suprised this is not in the general FAQ. Something for the Black VFAQ.
Which will popup in http://www.channelu.com/NeXT/Black/index.html
under VFAQ someday.
Randy
rencsok at
channelu dot com
argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
spammers works also :)
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mathematica on NeXTstep 3.3
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:51:41 GMT
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In <3646c142.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> Sven Droll wrote:
> This was a special agreement for academics buying some early NeXTmachine 6
to
> 8 years ago. It was Mathematica 1.0 in bundle with the machine, I think.
Not it was not an academic bundle. I got my cube with NS2.0 and there was a
free license of Mathematica included. I even got a free update to Mma 2.1 (?)
later.
Nice product and nice company. I still get their marketing mailings (paper,
not e-) regularly. I bought Wolfram's book but I still couldn't find any
reason for me to dig deeper into Mma, I just don't need it. Basically the
programming language is a derivative of LISP, without the ((())), probably
the major reason why it succeeded - just more user friendly.
From: George B Haff <haff+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: tcpdump compiled?
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:58:11 -0500
Organization: Junior, Mathematical Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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it appears as though someone is hacking up our subnet, and i want to see
the packets that enter and leave my machines...
i own, among other things, black hw running ns3.3 user
...so unfortunately i cannot compile the source of tcpdump found on peanuts..
does anyone have or know where i can get a next binary of it?
thanks alot,
-george
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: TjL <luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion>
Subject: Re: hardware password ? Help!
In-Reply-To: <72ch9l$bd8$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
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My fear is that someone went beyond the hardware password.
Follow the steps outlined on my web page which Randy mentioned. However,
it sounds like someone may have password protected single user mode (cf
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2593.htmld/2593.html )
The reason it sounds like that to me is that you say it gave you 3 chances
to try the password. I believe that the program 'pwcheck' (cf source code
at pwcheck.c in
http://ent.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2592.htmld/2592.html) does just
that.
If that is the case and you can't find the root password, I think you will
have to reinstall.
TjL
On 11 Nov 1998 spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com wrote:
> In <tb303-1011982124020001@1cust14.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net> dave-g wrote:
> >
> > since i had no idea what the password was, i put in the nextstep installer
> > floppy and the nextstep 3.3 cdrom. it booted off of the floppy (actually
> > i think that the cd did most of the work) and then asked me where i'd like
> > to install nextstep 3.3, it recommended only one choice (the maxstor 325
> > meg hd that was already in there). and then procceded to give a list of
> > all the goodies that it was placing on the drive. a few minutes later, it
> > said all was well and hit return to reboot. i did. when i came back up,
> > it went through some of the boot process and then stopped and asked me for
> > a hardware password. a tried to hit return and go about my business but it
> > gave me 3 tries (i missed all 3 times) and then it booted me out and
> > shutdown.
> >
> > does anyone know what i can do to just start fresh with this thing?! and
> > have it not keep asking for passwords that i don't know.
> >
> > also, i am very new to the next world, so please don't be too harsh on
> > this newbie ;)
> >
> > thanks in advance,
> >
> > dave-g
> >
>
> Check out Tim Luoma's FAQ
>
> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/FAQs/?
>
> I'm suprised this is not in the general FAQ. Something for the Black VFAQ.
>
> Which will popup in http://www.channelu.com/NeXT/Black/index.html
> under VFAQ someday.
>
> Randy
> rencsok at
> channelu dot com
> argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
>
> spammers works also :)
>
> Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining,
> Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.)
>
>
>
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mathematica and NS3.3
Date: 10 Nov 1998 15:59:32 GMT
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In article <2tGPFwcWufE5@cc.usu.edu> writes:
> I disagree. I was able to get Mathematica to run on a new slab
> by making sure the new machine had the same hostname and the same
> hostid as the old machine. Of course, you have to have the utility
> HostID.app to be able to change the hostid to an arbitrary value.
Now where would I find that cute utility?
I could not locate it on Peanuts....
Any pointers welcome!
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From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PIM for Nextstep?
Date: 12 Nov 1998 16:32:29 GMT
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In article <19981110201706.23038.00002983@ng90.aol.com> willadams@aol.com
(WillAdams) writes:
> Depends on what you mean by PIM.
> For contact information, there's the buil-in address book, and there's a
> shareware program that uses this format as well.
The name of that is Phone.app.
It can dial phone numbers for you (if your modem is connected). Quite nice, I
use it at home. And the price is fair.
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From: "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@issl.atl.hp.com>
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Subject: Re: PIM for Nextstep?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:52:17 -0500
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Helmut Heller wrote:
>
> In article <19981110201706.23038.00002983@ng90.aol.com> willadams@aol.com
> (WillAdams) writes:
> > Depends on what you mean by PIM.
> > For contact information, there's the buil-in address book, and there's a
> > shareware program that uses this format as well.
>
> The name of that is Phone.app.
> It can dial phone numbers for you (if your modem is connected). Quite nice, I
> use it at home. And the price is fair.
>
is there anything that works with a PalmPilot?
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
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Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on HP 9000
Date: 10 Nov 1998 16:37:15 GMT
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.96L.981109204059.17505A-100000@unix17.andrew.cmu.edu>,
Brighten Godfrey <godfreyb@cmu.edu> wrote:
>Does anyone know if NeXTSTEP for PA-RISC (HP 9000/7xx workstations) is
>available from anywhere?
>
Looking for the Sun/HP version in c.s.n.marketplace is likely your only
bet. It's often cheap--I've seen some for $25 (but stupidly didn't buy any).
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From: "Aaron Tunnell" <aatunnel@vt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PIM for Nextstep?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:31:24 -0500
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From: rfuller@genre.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Y2K Trouble
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:12:37 GMT
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Howdy Folks,
I am running NS 3.3 on a NeXT Dimension Turbo Cube. I read the Y2K .pdf doc at
the Apple Enterprise site which leads me to believe I'm f**ked come 1/1/2000.
Does anyone have any info on this? Are all my wonderful Apps gonna die? Is the
sh*t gonna hit the fan? Am I gonna have to migrate to OS 4.X? Is that even
going to help me with the hardware which isn't even mentioned in the doc?
HELP!
Thanks,
Robert
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mathematica and NS3.3
Date: 10 Nov 1998 19:18:49 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
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References: <ygc67co1z10.fsf@tank.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me> <727fm3$d2b$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <2tGPFwcWufE5@cc.usu.edu>
edx@cc.usu.edu wrote:
>I disagree. I was able to get Mathematica to run on a new slab
>by making sure the new machine had the same hostname and the same
>hostid as the old machine. Of course, you have to have the utility
>HostID.app to be able to change the hostid to an arbitrary value.
But that's illegal, isn't it ;-) seriously, I vaguely remember there
was an app that could change hostids. Is it black only?
Best regards, Chris
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From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Nextstep or Openstep on IBM 600
Date: 13 Nov 1998 03:45:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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Does anyone know if one can run Nextstep or Openstep on an IBM 600
ThinkPad? I know that the W2000 company ran both on the 770 ThinkPad, but
they say the 600 has a newer chip, and so they do not know whether they will
run on the 600. The difficulty is that no one wants to open up a new 600 to
test the problem.
I have been running Nextstep on a NEC Versa, but now I want to move
to an IBM 600. The keys stick badly on the Versa, and the space bar does not
work properly. (Also it is a three-year old monochrome).
Thanks,
H. Craig
--
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Subject: Re: Nextstep or Openstep on IBM 600
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In <910928731.319946@news1.ucsd.edu> Harmon Craig wrote:
> Does anyone know if one can run Nextstep or Openstep on an IBM 600
> ThinkPad? I know that the W2000 company ran both on the 770 ThinkPad, but
> they say the 600 has a newer chip, and so they do not know whether they
will
> run on the 600. The difficulty is that no one wants to open up a new 600
to
> test the problem.
>
> I have been running Nextstep on a NEC Versa, but now I want to move
> to an IBM 600. The keys stick badly on the Versa, and the space bar does
not
> work properly. (Also it is a three-year old monochrome).
>
> Thanks,
>
> H. Craig
>
It really depends on the video card chipset ,IBM Thinkpad 600 uses. Usually,
the problem that most people run into with laptops is that there is no video
driver for it. I don't know much about that model, but if you know what
video chipset it has, I sure someone here could answer your question. I
could probably give you an answer.
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First I would find out what video chipset the TP 600 has (I think it's
a NeoMagic 128) and if there is a video driver available. I think
DeepSpace (www.deepspacetech.com) has a video driver that will work
(NeXTAnswers/Apple do not have a video driver for this).
I would recommend OS 4.2 over NS 3.3, since the various drivers on
NeXTAnswers for 4.2 will be more current.
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From: Mike Paquette <mpaque@ncal.verio.com>
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Subject: Re: Y2K Trouble
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:26:54 -0800
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rfuller@genre.com wrote:
>
> Howdy Folks,
>
> I am running NS 3.3 on a NeXT Dimension Turbo Cube. I read the Y2K .pdf doc at
> the Apple Enterprise site which leads me to believe I'm f**ked come 1/1/2000.
> Does anyone have any info on this? Are all my wonderful Apps gonna die? Is the
> sh*t gonna hit the fan? Am I gonna have to migrate to OS 4.X? Is that even
> going to help me with the hardware which isn't even mentioned in the doc?
Your Turbo Cube + ND hardware is substantially similar to the monochrome
NeXTStation Turbo hardware as far as the CPU subsystem and real-time
clock is concerned.
The problems are software-related, are a pain in the butt, won't totally
trash your system, and often are simple-minded things like:
printf( "19%2d", time_struct_year_field );
instead of:
printf( "%4d:, time_struct_year_field + 1900 );
buried deep in some of the command line utilities.
Here are the big ticket items for most users in NeXTSTEP 3.3 and
earlier, and some fixes I'm aware of:
1) Unix date command can't set years of 2000 or later
Get the GNU date command.
http://www.peak.org/next/apps/unix/date.0.2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
2) Preferences Date/Time panel
Use the GNU date command. Anybody got a replacement Preferences module?
3) nroff, troff may print the wrong date in documents
Live with it for existing docs (mostly man pages)? Most of the command
line jocks I know have switched to TeX for their docs needs, or gone
over to a GUI.
4) Command line 'mail' program may get the date wrong
Use Mail.app, or one of the third party solutions, many of which are at www.peak.org.
5) at, atrun, atq: per user timed command execution
Get Paul Vixie's cron software. It works well, and is more secure, too!
http://www.peak.org/next/apps/unix/CronVixie.2.1.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
Someone with more time than I have might want to put together a Y2K
Survival Pack of these utilities, with a nice Installer wrapper.
Here's the official blurb right off of enterprise.apple.com:
The following is Apple Computer's statement regarding the Year 2000
compliance of NeXTSTEP 3.3 applications and the NeXTSTEP
operating system. For Year 2000 information on other Apple Enterprise
software products such as OPENSTEP and WebObjects, please
see our Apple Enterprise Year 2000 home page at http://enterprise.apple.com/y2k/.
1. The NeXTSTEP 3.3 operating system is not Year 2000 compliant.
NeXTSTEP 3.3 contains known Year 2000 problems, including
problems with the date command and the Preferences application that may
make it impossible to set the date on your computer after January
1, 2000. There are also known problems with email and with certain Unix
utilities such as at, atrun, atq, troff, nroff, and mail. Customers
using NeXTSTEP 3.3 should upgrade to OPENSTEP or MacOS X-based
solutions. Please contact your sales representative for sales and
pricing information.
2. One framework in NeXTSTEP 3.3 which performed explicit date-handling
was DBKit, the predecessor to Apple's Enterprise Objects
Framework. DBKit did not handle dates in a Year 2000-compliant fashion,
and therefore any application which makes use of DBKit is
likely to experience Year 2000 problems.
3. The third-party tools and libraries that shipped with NeXTSTEP 3.3
have not been audited for Year 2000 compliance. Some third-party
tools and libraries may not be Year 2000 compliant in the versions
bundled with NeXTSTEP 3.3.
3. NeXTSTEP 3.3 did not have an equivalent to the OPENSTEP 'NSDate'
object; most applications and frameworks used UNIX utilities
and functions to manage dates. These UNIX constructs and any custom date
handling an application performs may experience Year 2000
problems. For this reason, the applications that shipped with NeXTSTEP
3.3 may not handle the Year 2000 transition properly, even if
they are run in an OPENSTEP environment. Your custom NeXTSTEP
applications will run in an OPENSTEP environment only if they do
no date handling, or if they were specifically programmed with custom
Year 2000-compliant date handling routines.
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Subject: Basic Spreadsheet "feature" question
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Can someone explain to me what the purpose of having multiple "views" in a
spreadsheet (ie Quantrix) serve?
I can't see what use they serve, because if I change something in one view,
it changes them in all of them, which is what I thought they were for.
I must be missing something really basic, because I can't find any
explanation for its purpose.
TjL
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On 29 Oct 1998 19:40:18 GMT, David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>
> There are no 100Mhz 68k processors. Perhaps you're reading some vapour that
>labels the 50MHz '040 as being 100MHz?
Well, will a 50MHz '040 work as a replacement in a slab for a 33MHz '040?
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Sorry for using this email to ask for a person instead of NeXT stuffs.
However, I lost Brandon B. Martinelli email address and I really need to
contact him. If Brandon B. Martinelli found this email or someone else
knows his email address, please contact me at c641625@showme.missouri.edu
Thank you very much and I'm sorry for using NeXT usenet in the wrong
direction, but he's a NeXT user and I thought he might look at NeXT
newsgroup sometimes.
Sarawoot
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If they work the same as they do in Macs, you can, but the 68040
will still run at 33mhz. In most Macs, the processor speed of the
040 is controlled by some resistor combination on the motherboard,
so replacing the chip with a faster one only results in the chip
running a little cooler :)
I don't know how Nextstation's do it though.
-- John
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>
> On 29 Oct 1998 19:40:18 GMT, David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> >
> > There are no 100Mhz 68k processors. Perhaps you're reading some vapour that
> >labels the 50MHz '040 as being 100MHz?
>
> Well, will a 50MHz '040 work as a replacement in a slab for a 33MHz '040?
>
> --
>
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>
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
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Subject: Quantrix question
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Hi,
I have the following strange problem in Quantrix:
In a two-dimensional table with the categories DAY and VALUE, I want to
calculate a moving average of VALUE's item "Index" over e.g. 40 days. I was
surprised to find out that this task was documented nowhere, but came up with
the following solution myself (ANOTHER_TABLE is another table; DAY is linked
between the 2 tables)
DAY[THIS]:MovingAverage = avg(selectBetween(DAY:Index, ANOTHER_TABLE::DAY,
ANOTHER_TABLE::DAY[THIS - 40], ANOTHER_TABLE::DAY[THIS]))
While this works fine, since ANOTHER_TABLE has DAY simply linked anyway, I
thought it should also be possible to simply write:
DAY[THIS]:MovingAverage = avg(selectBetween(DAY:Index, DAY, DAY[THIS - 40],
DAY[THIS]))
But to my surprise this doesn't work.
But there *has* to be a method to calculate a moving average without a second
table, hasn't it? Does anybody know how?
Thank you for any hint!
Bye
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From: spagiola@my-dejanews.com
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Subject: Re: Basic Spreadsheet "feature" question
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:13:15 GMT
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> Can someone explain to me what the purpose of having multiple "views" in a
> spreadsheet (ie Quantrix) serve?
> I can't see what use they serve, because if I change something in one view,
> it changes them in all of them, which is what I thought they were for.
> I must be missing something really basic, because I can't find any
> explanation for its purpose.
Well, it lets you look at your data from different perspectives. Say you have
one view that shows sales by quarter and by customer. Useful for seeing how
sales evolve over time, and how they break down in any given time period. But
not so useful to see how sales to a given customer have evolved over time; so
you make a different view that has sales by customer and then by quarter. Both
show the same data, but they show it arranged in different ways, each way
tailored for a particular set of questions you might want to ask.
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From: candlish@gag-order.inetarena.com (John Candlish)
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Subject: Re: mathematica on NeXTstep 3.3
Date: 14 Nov 1998 20:13:04 GMT
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References: <19981107013449.03049.00000431@ng149.aol.com> <3646c142.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <729tu9$k9p@slip.net>
Since upgrading to 3.0.2 I get an alert panel stating SystemFiles are
not found when launching mma from a notebook. Mathematica still
launches OK when selected by the app icon or with launchbar.
Anyone on this tread know how to correct this behavior.
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Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
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Date: 15 Nov 1998 04:46:24 GMT
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Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
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The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
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This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
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From: Martial BONIOU <mboniou@club-internet.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: About NS3.3Dev !
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 15:24:09 +0000
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I am looking for NS 3.2 or 3.3 developper. Where can I find it on a
CDROM ?
Martial, FRANCE
From: "Test" <angeguaz@tin.it>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Test
Date: 15 Nov 1998 18:16:05 GMT
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Body Test
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: About NS3.3Dev !
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In <364EF219.6608B29F@club-internet.fr> Martial BONIOU wrote:
> I am looking for NS 3.2 or 3.3 developper. Where can I find it on a
> CDROM ?
comp.sys.next.marketplace would be my first stop.
TjL
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From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Any PalmPilot supporting applications out there?
Date: 17 Nov 1998 17:30:19 GMT
Organization: Ink Unknown
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Hi Ken,
missed your post last time I scanned this group.
Sorry to say I do not know of any apps, but
all of the pilot-link tools do compile with a little tweaking as do the
assorted development tools (gcc etc.).
So if you are familiar with a shell and don't mind using csv files you are
up and running. I extended pilot-addresses to interact with quantrix.app.
In <980916095816.488AAFCG.kjt@brass> Ken Turner wrote:
> I know only of some preliminary work by Omni Group, but I'm motivated to
have
> such a thing too. There's also a Java Pilot Desktop
> (http://www.ctag.de/projects/jpd/) that could be relevant.
Hope that helps
Juergen
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From: Andrew Turner <ajt3h@virginia.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: hardware password ? Help!
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:13:32 -0500
Organization: University of Virginia
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I had the problem for a slab, and just opened up the case and removed the
battery for about 20-30 minutes. Rebooted, and it worked...
Andrew Turner
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Samba Printing
Date: 18 Nov 1998 01:36:58 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
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"John E. Hayes III" <jeh25@cornell.edu> writes:
> Anyone have any experience with sharing a next laserprinter via samba?
> any good sources?
heres the smb.conf file from our server which shares the home
directories and one printer called Epson...
[global]
os level = 255
preferred master = no
workgroup = YKELECCOMMS
browsable = yes
read only = yes
guest account = nobody
guest ok = no
log file = /usr/samba/var/log.smb-%m
getwd cache = yes
server string = Sparc 10 running OpenStep Samba %v
username map = /usr/samba/lib/username.map
printing = bsd
mangled names = no
mangle case = no
case sensitive = no
preserve case = yes
short preserve case = yes
[homes]
path = %H
browsable = no
read only = no
[Epson]
postscript = yes
path = /usr/spool/samba
writable = no
printable = yes
guest ok = yes
printer = Epson
From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mathematica on NeXTstep 3.3
Date: 16 Nov 1998 14:11:08 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <72pbps$939$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <19981107013449.03049.00000431@ng149.aol.com> <3646c142.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <729tu9$k9p@slip.net> <72ko8g$ome$1@play.inetarena.com>
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In article <72ko8g$ome$1@play.inetarena.com>, you wrote:
>Since upgrading to 3.0.2 I get an alert panel stating SystemFiles are not
>found when launching mma from a notebook. Mathematica still launches OK
>when selected by the app icon or with launchbar.
>
>Anyone on this tread know how to correct this behavior.
Did you uninstall the old version and then install the new? Or just install
over the top of an old installation (and if so, which version)?
If you did the install-over-the-top method, I'd suggest uninstalling
everything, and re-installing Math'ca.
Other than that, I have a few questions, if you don't mind:
1. When did you get this version 3.0.2? We got a snapshot of 3.0.2 to fix a
bug that I reported (see below), but have yet to receive the 3.0.2 release.
Can you verify that you indeed have 3.0.2 for me?
2. Since you have 3.0.2, can you verify the printing bug detailed at
http://www.wolfram.com/support/Systems/NeXT/FE/nextdict.html
is fixed or not? Ignore the fact that they say it "sometimes" occurs;
Replace that with EVERY time. (-; This bug only occurs when printing to
anything other than an original NeXTprinter.
It's terribly annoying, considering I reported this problem in the early
summer of 1997.
--
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Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 68060 in Nextstation?
Date: 16 Nov 1998 18:12:14 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <911239924.652708@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca>
References: <36374291.42DDD647@home.com> <3638B90C.8485FE1F@home.com> <909690018.453597@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca> <slrn74plpe.eur.float@interport.net>
Cache-Post-Path: watserv4.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca
In article <slrn74plpe.eur.float@interport.net>,
void <float@interport.net> wrote:
>On 29 Oct 1998 19:40:18 GMT, David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>
>> There are no 100Mhz 68k processors. Perhaps you're reading some vapour that
>>labels the 50MHz '040 as being 100MHz?
>
>Well, will a 50MHz '040 work as a replacement in a slab for a 33MHz '040?
>
Perhaps--if so it will work just like a 33MHz '040. :-)
The only "accelerator" board for Turbo hardware is the impossible-to-find
Nitro. The only board for non-Turbo hardware is the expensive Pyro.
--
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Subject: good palm III software
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From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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Does anybody know if Unter Ecker Software of ComposeInColor is still around
somewhere?
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From: "John E. Hayes III" <jeh25@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Samba Printing
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:06:12 -0500
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Anyone have any experience with sharing a next laserprinter via samba?
any good sources?
I have samba installed but am stumped as to how to configure the printer
as NS 3.3/moto doesn't use /etc/printcap
--
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From: Nathan Fiedler <nfiedler@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need NeXTSTEP 3.3 Installation floppy
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:16:57 -0800
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At least I think I need it. I just bought a NeXTcube and it came with the User
and Developer 3.3 software. The software was shrinkwrapped and came from a
university, so I trust it has never been opened. However, the NS 3.3
installation floppy disk is blank except for a .dir.tiff file. Is this normal?
Isn't there supposed to be something else on there to perform the installation.
Can someone with the 3.3 software make a copy of the disk for me and send it to
me? I'll gladly compensate you for your time and materials. Please email me if
you can help.
I just need the NeXT computers installation disk. The Intel disk, Device Drivers
disk, and NeXTSTEP CD-ROM all work fine.
nathan
From: C.Hoefer@lse.ac.uk ("Hoefer,C")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OS 4.2 Intel Install woes -- please help
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 04:49:53 -0800
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I recently bought the following system, thinking I'd be
utterly Next-compatible and have an easy time installing:
IBM PC 300PL, PII 350, 128meg, Sanyo 1332 ATAPI CD-ROM;
plus Adaptec 2940UW PCI-SCSI adapter card.
I *should* be able to install either from the internal
CD-ROM or from an external SCSI via the adaptec. Neither
option is working. If anyone can help me get one of these
to work I'll be a happy man. Here's what happens:
(1) Trying the internal Sanyo, I've tried all sorts of
combinations of drivers for HD and CD-ROM from the Install
Drivers diskette. Only the Primary/secondary EIDE/ATAPI
driver comes close to working. The HD and the Sanyo seem
to be correctly recognized by the system. The CD starts to
spin. But I inevitably get the following crash-n-burn:
...
unexpected kernel trap d eip dbe1
frame 1e07 fb called by 6c630000 args 5f6b636f 656d6974 6f635f72 6174736e
invalid frame pointer a50000
failed instruction exception (2,d,0)
waiting for remote debugger connection ...
after this I can continue and cause a system panic, or
reboot and save myself the trouble.
The internal CD-ROM works fine under W95, so it's no
hardware problem; and though it's not on the compatible
drives list, being ATAPI it should work.
(2) Trying the external route with a Panasonic
(Matsushita) KXL-783A portable SCSI CD-ROM, I have again
tried lots of driver combinations, and lots of different
settings for the Adaptec card, with no luck. (BIOS rev
is 1.34.3, by the way, but the result below holds whether
the BIOS is enabled or disabled).
Basically, using the 2940 driver from the diskette (v. 4.00)
and any IDE or EIDE driver for the HD, both the HD and
the Adaptec get recognized as the system tries to start
up, but after registering the SCSI card, OS can't find
the CD-ROM at all. It asks me where to start from (sd%d,
hd%d ...), but no matter what I tell it, it can't find
the CD-ROM and panics. (I'm not sure if I'm missing
some trick here; I tell it to use sd5, since the ID# of
the Panasonic is 5, but it doesn't seem to matter what I
say actually.)
I have read via DejaNews of all sorts of incompatibility
woes for users of recent 2940 Adaptecs, but none of the
problems seems the same as mine -- I'm just trying to get
it to find the damn CD-ROM! Slowing down the max transfer
rate, and other settings on the adaptec so far hasn't
helped.
(3) finally, thinking perhaps I need a newer driver from
NeXTAnswers, I tried downloading some with a Windoze
machine. But slapping the __.pkg.compressed file onto a
DOS floppy doesn't seem quite good enough. I don't have
access to a NS/OS machine to uncompress and/or Next-format
a floppy. Is there any way to get new drivers onto a
usable driver floppy from WindozeWorld?
Thanks if anyone can help.
Carl Hoefer
London School of Economics
C.Hoefer@lse.ac.uk
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From: "Scott Hampton" <scottieh@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: is Canon selling direct
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:57:52 -0800
Organization: ICGNetcom
Message-ID: <731m6a$b4l@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>
References: <72ii26$r2k@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>
No it's a BuyComp store. But it should still have great service . Probably
better then through Canon direct.
>check out buycanon.com is that direct through canon?
>
>
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need NeXTSTEP 3.3 Installation floppy
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In <3653B7D9.5D820B13@earthlink.net> Nathan Fiedler wrote:
> At least I think I need it. I just bought a NeXTcube and it came with the
User
> and Developer 3.3 software. The software was shrinkwrapped and came from a
> university, so I trust it has never been opened. However, the NS 3.3
> installation floppy disk is blank except for a .dir.tiff file. Is this
normal?
> Isn't there supposed to be something else on there to perform the
installation.
Nope.
All the floppy is there to do is allow you to boot of the CD-ROM.
The boot block is the important thing, and that isn't visible.
Pop it in, and boot the machine with 'bfd' to install. It's a "kick disk"
more than an installation floppy. All the installation stuff is on the CD.
TjL
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OS 4.2 Intel Install woes -- please help
Date: 19 Nov 1998 11:26:49 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
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References: <dvU42.288$Ey.348802@WReNphoon2>
>
>(2) Trying the external route with a Panasonic
>(Matsushita) KXL-783A portable SCSI CD-ROM,
>hd%d ...), but no matter what I tell it, it can't find
>the CD-ROM and panics. (I'm not sure if I'm missing
>some trick here; I tell it to use sd5, since the ID# of
>the Panasonic is 5, but it doesn't seem to matter what I
>say actually.)
>
You are confusing scsi id with sd.
sd corresponds to the order that a device is recognized
on the bus, not the scsi id. e.g. If you had peripherals with
scsi ids 0,3,2,5 with 3 being attached to 0, 2 attached to 3
etc, the corresponding sds for the peripherals would be 0,1,2,3,4.
I've heard of there being problems with the Adaptec 2940uw
driver. Once I think Bob at Blackhole posted a very good
message about what he had to do to get things to work.
My recollection he did something like using a spare
Adaptec 274x with an install using a 50 to 68 pin converter,
then after the OS install he installed the 2940uw driver,
and detached the 274x.
It may the case that a new 2940uw driver is available at
NeXTAnswers. Be certain that you check that out because
the driver which comes with the disks is known to have
problems.
IMHO, I wouldn't bother with any ATAPI IDE stuff with
NeXTSTEP. That's my personal opinion because I like
the ease of use of SCSI and because you can attach
lots of peripherals. Also SCSI is compatible with any UNIX.
Emmett
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From: "Rob Jarrett" <n0spam_robj@cgocable.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Possible to burn ISO-9660 & Rock Ridge under Win9x?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:01:22 -0500
Message-ID: <3654f853.0@news.cgocable.net>
Hi all,
I'm new to the NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP scene, and have been downloading software
like mad from Peanuts & Peak. Now I have about 2GB worth, I'd like to burn
it to CDRs. Since my CDR will only work on Win9x, I'm wondering if it's
possible for me to preserve long file names by using Rock Ridge extensions?
What software (if any) under Win9x supports this?
Many thanks for any help,
Rob
From: Martin Sillence <M.Sillence@ftel.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Samba Printing
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:54:20 +0000
Organization: FTEL
Message-ID: <3655667C.EDBEDE86@ftel.co.uk>
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Hi,
"John E. Hayes III" wrote:
>
> Anyone have any experience with sharing a next laserprinter via samba?
>
> any good sources?
>
> I have samba installed but am stumped as to how to configure the printer
> as NS 3.3/moto doesn't use /etc/printcap
I just left thoes fields blank. The default seemed to work.
Don't forget to set up the printing in global as well as a printer under
services.
Good luck,
Martin
From: Martin Sillence <M.Sillence@ftel.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need NeXTSTEP 3.3 Installation floppy
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:03:59 +0000
Organization: FTEL
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Hi,
Nathan Fiedler wrote:
>
> At least I think I need it. I just bought a NeXTcube and it came with the User
> and Developer 3.3 software. The software was shrinkwrapped and came from a
> university, so I trust it has never been opened. However, the NS 3.3
> installation floppy disk is blank except for a .dir.tiff file. Is this normal?
> Isn't there supposed to be something else on there to perform the installation.
>
> Can someone with the 3.3 software make a copy of the disk for me and send it to
> me? I'll gladly compensate you for your time and materials. Please email me if
> you can help.
>
You can get a bootdisk image and a rawrite.exe program (for dos) to make
your own floppy from the next answers site.
If you need it.
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
and search for boot disk gives -
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/2151.compressed
or knowing where to look ;) -
ftp://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/Files/OPENSTEP/Floppy_Images/
Regards,
Martin
From: j.pearson@ge.ucl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Possible to burn ISO-9660 & Rock Ridge under Win9x?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:18:04 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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To: "Rob Jarrett" <robj@cgocable.net>
In article <3654f853.0@news.cgocable.net>,
"Rob Jarrett" <n0spam_robj@cgocable.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to the NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP scene, and have been downloading software
> like mad from Peanuts & Peak. Now I have about 2GB worth, I'd like to burn
> it to CDRs. Since my CDR will only work on Win9x, I'm wondering if it's
> possible for me to preserve long file names by using Rock Ridge extensions?
> What software (if any) under Win9x supports this?
You can use mkisofs under Unix to create a CD image file, then transfer the
raw file to a PC and burn the image to a CD.
Or, use mkisofs compiled for Win9X/NT4 (see
http://www.ge.ucl.ac.uk/~jcpearso/software.html). You will still need a PC
CD-R package to burn the CD image file to a CD.
HyCD Publisher (http://www.hycd.com/) and HotBurn (http://www.asimware.com/)
claim to be able to create Rock Ridge CDs on Win9X platforms.
James Pearson
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From: me@milad.phl.jhu.edu (Robert Rynasiewicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Spurrious DMA imterrupt
Date: 19 Nov 1998 18:36:41 GMT
Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA
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I am running a NeXTStation (OpenStep 4.1) with an external drive as the
startup device and keep getting a spurrious DMA interrupt message that
sometimes causes the system to freeze.
Any ideas as to what the cause may be?
Many thanks.
Rob
From: wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Possible to burn ISO-9660 & Rock Ridge under Win9x?
Date: 20 Nov 1998 16:27:50 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule of Karlsruhe, Germany
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Rob Jarrett (n0spam_robj@cgocable.net) wrote:
: Hi all,
: I'm new to the NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP scene, and have been downloading software
: like mad from Peanuts & Peak. Now I have about 2GB worth, I'd like to burn
: it to CDRs. Since my CDR will only work on Win9x, I'm wondering if it's
: possible for me to preserve long file names by using Rock Ridge extensions?
: What software (if any) under Win9x supports this?
: Many thanks for any help,
: Rob
Use mkisofs to make create an image which can be burned on other systems.
it should be available on the archives
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From: Nils Hott <soz96hxw@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Burn HFS CDs for NeXT? (was: Possible to burn ISO-9660 & Rock Ridge under Win9x?)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:53:23 +0100
Organization: Uni Leipzig
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On 20 Nov 1998, Richard Woeber wrote:
> Rob Jarrett (n0spam_robj@cgocable.net) wrote:
> : Hi all,
>
> : I'm new to the NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP scene, and have been downloading software
> : like mad from Peanuts & Peak. Now I have about 2GB worth, I'd like to burn
> : it to CDRs. Since my CDR will only work on Win9x, I'm wondering if it's
> : possible for me to preserve long file names by using Rock Ridge extensions?
> : What software (if any) under Win9x supports this?
>
> Use mkisofs to make create an image which can be burned on other systems.
> it should be available on the archives
What if I have my downloads on a PC/Mac?
Since NS supports HFS it should be possible to burn the CD as a normal Mac
volume. That should also preserve long file names.
Or am I wrong here? Did anyone actually try this?
Nils :-)
From: beigel@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Richard Beigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Basic Spreadsheet "feature" question
Date: 20 Nov 1998 15:36:55 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, Dept. of EE&CS, 851 S Morgan St, Chicago IL 60607-7053
Message-ID: <7342an$mia$1@piglet.cc.uic.edu>
References: <P6132.2397$8T2.4741926@newshog.newsread.com>
TjL (luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion) wrote:
: Can someone explain to me what the purpose of having multiple "views" in a
: spreadsheet (ie Quantrix) serve?
I use this feature all the time in Lotus. Uses:
* In my checkbook, one view has a large font so I can read it easily
on line, but another view has a small font (and narrower columns)
so that all the columns will fit on one printer page. If you didn't
have multiple views, you'd have to change fonts and
resize the columns before printing.
* In my medical records, I have different views for insurance information,
flexible spending accounts, and doctor information. They are all the
same spreadsheet, but with different columns hidden.
* As pointed out elsewhere, you can also change the axes in different
views. This could be especially useful when you have 3 or more dimensions,
but I don't usually use the feature in practice.
--- Richard
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OS 4.2 Intel Install woes -- please help
Date: 20 Nov 1998 23:24:18 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <734tn2$no0$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
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In <731rdp$kov@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote:
> >
> >(2) Trying the external route with a Panasonic
> >(Matsushita) KXL-783A portable SCSI CD-ROM,
>
> >hd%d ...), but no matter what I tell it, it can't find
> >the CD-ROM and panics. (I'm not sure if I'm missing
> >some trick here; I tell it to use sd5, since the ID# of
> >the Panasonic is 5, but it doesn't seem to matter what I
> >say actually.)
> >
>
> You are confusing scsi id with sd.
I really have no exact clue what you are doing.
My assumption is your trying to install on a IDE HD
but I'm not sure.
I agree that you are confusing the target and scsi device
#'s. No matter what the target #'s if there are n of them
there will be 0,1,2,3,4,..n-1 (n)SD numbers. i.e. if you have
a SCSI HD (ID=1) and CDROM (ID=5) then the scsi device
of the HD will be sd0 and the CDROM sd1.
> sd corresponds to the order that a device is recognized
> on the bus, not the scsi id. e.g. If you had peripherals with
> scsi ids 0,3,2,5 with 3 being attached to 0, 2 attached to 3
> etc, the corresponding sds for the peripherals would be 0,1,2,3,4.
>
> I've heard of there being problems with the Adaptec 2940uw
> driver. Once I think Bob at Blackhole posted a very good
> message about what he had to do to get things to work.
> My recollection he did something like using a spare
> Adaptec 274x with an install using a 50 to 68 pin converter,
> then after the OS install he installed the 2940uw driver,
> and detached the 274x.
I'd really make sure things are terminated and the speed
is set to the lowest level 5Mhz, async, disable disconnects, etc.
Termination and cabling can kill one every time.
> It may the case that a new 2940uw driver is available at
> NeXTAnswers. Be certain that you check that out because
> the driver which comes with the disks is known to have
> problems.
Probably depends on the bios version of your card.
If you have 1.2x it might be fine, 1.3x and possible
problems with the old 4.2 driver. I havn't checked how
one would put the new drivers on floppy - but this would
be a alternative if you had another NeXTstep/Openstep
box lying around or had someone send you a disk image
of one with the newer 2940uw drivers..
> IMHO, I wouldn't bother with any ATAPI IDE stuff with
> NeXTSTEP. That's my personal opinion because I like
> the ease of use of SCSI and because you can attach
> lots of peripherals. Also SCSI is compatible with any UNIX.
I've heard nothing but problems with ATAPI IDE CD-ROMs.
A friend used a 1542CF to do a install from SCSI CD to
IDE HD. He said he had to restart a few times (to recover
from panics, etc.) AND the CD had to be target ID = 0
the IDE primary, but eventually the install went fine..
The note here is that my friend did have a 'number' (3-5 or more)
kernel panics, and problems, he just kept trying until it worked
but he was using a SCSI CD.. BTW this was with 3.3..
Although he was using a 1542CF and 3.3
It may be that setting your SCSI CDROM to ID=0 may
help you. If your HD is SCSI then set the HD to ID=1
and the CDROM ID=4 and then try it.
Randy Rencsok
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From: "Seb" <xxxsebmar@mindless.com>
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Subject: PC TELEWORKING: DO IT FROM HOME!
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:26:33 +0100
Organization: Centro Servizi Interbusiness
Message-ID: <736lug$3d1$13@fe1.cs.interbusiness.it>
If you are seriously interested in working and honestly earning money from
home using your PC, don't waste your time anymore! Just email me to this
address
sebmar@mindless.com
From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.eduNOSPAM (brendan mcdougall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Optical Drive
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:09:51 -0500
Organization: hero productions
Message-ID: <mcdougal-2111982109520001@oy.het.brandeis.edu>
2ofw`zN_n"TLcBfsMmIpnK)[y+zl{_Gwd2>ot&anq:Az^;Yx{nz`wlAR-vHg@GC~`X,{
'+HC|VdOkS_AL0HTKibv`n>+Cz"5=oC3UN_Sdsc0Ji"
hello world,
i have an old Cannon Optical cartridge from back in the day. does anyone
in the boston area have a NeXT with a working optical drive? i would love
to open up that Optical to see if i have anything useful on it. in fact,
my research group has about 5 optical cartridges which should be scanned i
suppose.
ummm, does anyone know the routine failure mechanism of these NeXT optical
drives, how to repair them, whether anyone does repair them and the
cost--order of magnitude estimate ok :)
thanks for your help and/or suggestions. best regards.
sincerely,
brendan mcdougall
--
brendan mcdougall
physics department
brandeis university
waltham, ma 02453
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <24470911106025@digifix.com>
Date: 22 Nov 1998 04:46:23 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <24666911710829@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
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From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Andrew Knight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SSL/HTTPS for OmniWeb 3?
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 10:58:09 GMT
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In <F2qzu2.sy@RnA.nl> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote:
> Is there a SSL plugin necessary/available for OmniWeb 3? The SSL-component
> for OmniWeb 2 produced messages in the OmniWeb console, but I haven;t seen
> any with OW3.
You can download a new version of the HTTPS Plug-In for OmniWeb 3.0-Beta8b
(OPENSTEP 4.2/Mach) from
http://www.peak.org/openstep/submissions/HTTPS.1.04a.m.NIS.bs.tar.gz
and
http://www.peak.org/openstep/mach/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/HTTPS.1.04a.m.NI
S.bs.tar.gz
Courtesy of Jörgen Möllenhoff
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <36592d7c.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 23 Nov 98 09:40:12 GMT
me@milad.phl.jhu.edu (Robert Rynasiewicz) wrote:
>
>I am running a NeXTStation (OpenStep 4.1) with an external drive as
>the startup device and keep getting a spurrious DMA interrupt message
>that sometimes causes the system to freeze.
>
>Any ideas as to what the cause may be?
defective hardware or illegal packages in nettraffic. try looking for errors
with netstat. if there is a evergrowing number of io-errors, some router is
targeting at you in the wrong way.
Sven
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From: mmannaa@aol.com (MMANNAA)
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Subject: omni web/ppp files for nextstep
Date: 23 Nov 1998 00:49:04 GMT
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Hi
I need some help with omni web / and ppp files for nextstep machine I just
got
willing to pay, if you can help me set it up.
please e-mail me at mmanna@aol.com
thank you
From: younry2@usfca.edu (Ryan E. Yount)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: .fli editor
Date: 24 Nov 1998 00:59:26 GMT
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Hi, a friend and I are starting on a game, I'm handling the graphics, and I'm
wondering if there are any .fli file editors for NeXTstep or OpenStep out
there to let me create .fli files. So far I've only seen a viewer.
Thanks,
younry2@usfca.edu
From: wori0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Richard Woeber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Burn HFS CDs for NeXT? (was: Possible to burn ISO-9660 & Rock Ridge under Win9x?)
Date: 24 Nov 1998 11:27:21 GMT
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References: <3654f853.0@news.cgocable.net> <7345a6$slo$1@news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <Pine.SOL.3.96.981120174720.3620A-100000@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de>
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Nils Hott (soz96hxw@sun10rz1.rz.uni-leipzig.de) wrote:
: On 20 Nov 1998, Richard Woeber wrote:
: > Rob Jarrett (n0spam_robj@cgocable.net) wrote:
: > : Hi all,
: >
: > : I'm new to the NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP scene, and have been downloading software
: > : like mad from Peanuts & Peak. Now I have about 2GB worth, I'd like to burn
: > : it to CDRs. Since my CDR will only work on Win9x, I'm wondering if it's
: > : possible for me to preserve long file names by using Rock Ridge extensions?
: > : What software (if any) under Win9x supports this?
: >
: > Use mkisofs to make create an image which can be burned on other systems.
: > it should be available on the archives
: What if I have my downloads on a PC/Mac?
: Since NS supports HFS it should be possible to burn the CD as a normal Mac
: volume. That should also preserve long file names.
: Or am I wrong here? Did anyone actually try this?
I once downloaded a lot of stuff to a mac and made an CD from it (Toast). there
were no problems.
BTW: There is a mkisofs-clone called mkhybrid which, after some small
changes, compiles fine under NS. But I didn't try to burn a MacImage.
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From: gary@spiritwars.com.spam.spam.spam (Gary)
Subject: OpenStep for Solaris
Organization: http://www.troll.no/freebies/leafnode.html
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 03:22:25 GMT
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Hey... I've found very little info on Sun's website regarding this...
I remember it's been probably over a year or so that Sun dropped OpenStep from
it's website, apparently in favour of promoting Java more instead... Were
there any other reasons for this? I thought it predated the Apple/NeXT merger
but my memory's faded bit. Can anyone help with the refresh rate?
Also... I've finally come across my archive of the pkgs for Solaris and have
tried installing them again, this time under 2.6. I seem to remember there was
one last thing to do in order for it to appear in the CDE login banner... does
anyone have docs or info on this? I also only installed the Desktop Apps
package (SUNWOosUd), the Workspace Services Apps pkg (SUNWOosUW), and (natch)
the CDE Login (SUNWOosUy). Do I need any others if I don't intend to do any
development just yet?
Thanks for any help.
-Gary
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <365be770.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 25 Nov 98 11:18:08 GMT
gary@spiritwars.com.spam.spam.spam (Gary) wrote:
>Hey... I've found very little info on Sun's website regarding this...
>
>I remember it's been probably over a year or so that Sun dropped
>OpenStep from it's website, apparently in favour of promoting Java
>more instead... Were there any other reasons for this? I thought it
>predated the Apple/NeXT merger but my memory's faded bit. Can anyone
>help with the refresh rate?
>
>Also... I've finally come across my archive of the pkgs for Solaris
>and have tried installing them again, this time under 2.6. I seem to
>remember there was one last thing to do in order for it to appear in
>the CDE login banner... does anyone have docs or info on this? I also
>only installed the Desktop Apps package (SUNWOosUd), the Workspace
>Services Apps pkg (SUNWOosUW), and (natch) the CDE Login (SUNWOosUy).
>Do I need any others if I don't intend to do any development just yet?
The trick was to reboot after installing SUNWOosUy :-)
If you have Openstep 1.0, take a look at http://www.peanuts.org and search
for solaris. In OpenStep/implementation/solaris/OpenStep.1.1.tar.gz there is
a much more improved version of Openstep for solaris (by Lighthouse) which
installs out of the box under Solaris 2.5.1 (sparc).
Sven
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From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenStep for Solaris
Date: 25 Nov 1998 17:56:24 GMT
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sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) writes:
> If you have Openstep 1.0, take a look at http://www.peanuts.org and search
> for solaris. In OpenStep/implementation/solaris/OpenStep.1.1.tar.gz there is
> a much more improved version of Openstep for solaris (by Lighthouse) which
> installs out of the box under Solaris 2.5.1 (sparc).
Interesting - what actually use is this other than running rhe Apps that
come with it ? Does it alllow the development/deployment of OpenStep
apps under Solaris at all ?
-bat.
From: cejensen@winternet.com (Christian Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Optical Drive
Date: 26 Nov 1998 03:04:47 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Nov 1998 03:04:47 GMT
You (brendan mcdougall <mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.eduNOSPAM>) wrote
in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:09:51 -0500:
> ummm, does anyone know the routine failure mechanism of these NeXT optical
> drives, how to repair them, whether anyone does repair them and the
> cost--order of magnitude estimate ok :)
The disks are quite robust; if you can find a working drive, you should be able to read them. The _drives_, however, routinely die of dust contamination, particularly if used without a filter.
Good luck finding one in your area. If you do, you may be surprised by how slow and noisy the drive is. At that point, think for a moment about how this drive was once bleeding edge technology, an idea way ahead of it's time, not so very long ago...
--Chris
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From: Nuno Viegas <viegas@esoterica.pt>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Spurrious DMA imterrupt
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 05:40:28 +0000
Organization: Turangas
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I have exactly the same problem, but printing to the NeXT Laser Printer
Any help apreciated.
Nuno
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From: Tim Young <backbone@swbell.net>
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Subject: Linux or NeXT Step?
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Hi all!
I own a laptop that has a removeable hard drive and I'm wanting to learn
UNIX. Thing is, I can't decide to install RedHat 5.1 or NS? I have more
experience with NS because I used to own a slab a couple of years ago. I
really don't think that I'd have room to install both. Its only an 810MB
IDE.
Has anyone here been able to successfully install NS on a laptop? Oh,
its also a swap drive system. Either CD or Floppy drive. Both cannot be
used at the same time.
Thanks for your time,
Tim
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Linux or NeXT Step?
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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 08:55:25 GMT
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In <365D0F3C.919AA8E5@swbell.net> Tim Young wrote:
> I own a laptop that has a removeable hard drive and I'm wanting to learn
> UNIX. Thing is, I can't decide to install RedHat 5.1 or NS?
You would probably have troubles with NS due to its hardware requirements
(the chance that you bought a compatible system by chance is roughly about
the same as productive work being done in the US gov't.... every now and
again it happens, but no one believes it :-)
Of course I'd suggest you go with FreeBSD, which will probably run on your
laptop, and is closer to NeXTStep's kernel, etc.
Linux development is a little too non-linear for me.
TjL, who prefers structure to chaos
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From: Kay Schulz <kay@ciemed.nus.edu.sg>
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Subject: Re: Linux or NeXT Step?
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:57:39 +0800
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Well,
if you want to go with beauty and elegance and eath, go NS
If you want to learn Linux (Unix) and invest into
something with more future, go Linux
Tim Young wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> I own a laptop that has a removeable hard drive and I'm wanting to learn
> UNIX. Thing is, I can't decide to install RedHat 5.1 or NS? I have more
> experience with NS because I used to own a slab a couple of years ago. I
> really don't think that I'd have room to install both. Its only an 810MB
> IDE.
>
> Has anyone here been able to successfully install NS on a laptop? Oh,
> its also a swap drive system. Either CD or Floppy drive. Both cannot be
> used at the same time.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Tim
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From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenStep for Solaris
Date: 27 Nov 1998 10:46:27 GMT
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sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) writes:
> No InterfaceBuilder or so. But there can be found some notes which descripe
> how to port Apps from NS to OS for Solaris. I never understand them.
Hmmm, O.K. thanks. I don't need interface builder (we kind of gave up on that
as a bad way of building interfaces for large projects...) but if there are
compliers and libraries then that would enable us to get some real work
done...
-bat.
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <365e9113.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 27 Nov 98 11:46:27 GMT
pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) wrote:
>sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) writes:
>> No InterfaceBuilder or so. But there can be found some notes which
>> descripe how to port Apps from NS to OS for Solaris. I never
>> understand them.
>
>Hmmm, O.K. thanks. I don't need interface builder (we kind of gave up
>on that as a bad way of building interfaces for large projects...) but
>if there are compliers and libraries then that would enable us to get
>some real work done...
for the curious ones:
ll /usr/openstep/lib
drwxr-xr-x 3 bin 512 Apr 2 1998 .
drwxr-xr-x 11 bin 512 Apr 2 1998 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 14 Apr 2 1998 libAppKit.so -> libAppKit.so.1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 bin 4206420 Mar 17 1997 libAppKit.so.1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 18 Apr 2 1998 libFoundation.so ->
libFoundation.so.1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 bin 1463556 Mar 17 1997 libFoundation.so.1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 20 Apr 2 1998 libObjcSelector.so ->
libObjcSelector.so.1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 bin 364232 Mar 17 1997 libObjcSelector.so.1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 18 Apr 2 1998 libidlRuntime.so ->
libidlRuntime.so.1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 bin 60768 Mar 17 1997 libidlRuntime.so.1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 12 Apr 2 1998 libobjc.so -> libobjc.so.1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 bin 149704 Mar 17 1997 libobjc.so.1
I never used those libs, though.
Sven
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From: "Chauncey Smith" <Chaunceys@juno.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Optical Drive
Date: 27 Nov 1998 23:35:52 GMT
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References: <mcdougal-2111982109520001@oy.het.brandeis.edu> <73iggf$lv4$1@blackice.winternet.com>
you wouldn't happen to know of a modern compatable opitical drive that the
old next drives could be replaced with and still read the old format would
you?
Christian Jensen <cejensen@winternet.com> wrote in article
<73iggf$lv4$1@blackice.winternet.com>...
> You (brendan mcdougall <mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.eduNOSPAM>) wrote
> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:09:51 -0500:
> > ummm, does anyone know the routine failure mechanism of these NeXT
optical
> > drives, how to repair them, whether anyone does repair them and the
> > cost--order of magnitude estimate ok :)
>
> The disks are quite robust; if you can find a working drive, you should
be able to read them. The _drives_, however, routinely die of dust
contamination, particularly if used without a filter.
>
> Good luck finding one in your area. If you do, you may be surprised by
how slow and noisy the drive is. At that point, think for a moment about
how this drive was once bleeding edge technology, an idea way ahead of it's
time, not so very long ago...
> --Chris
>
> **************************
> Chris Jensen
> cejensen@winternet.com
> MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK
>
> "Sacred cows make the best hamburger."
> --Mark Twain
>
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTWORLD Fall 1991 Article on Lotus Improv
Date: 27 Nov 1998 09:19:21 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <73mmup$kcj@slip.net>
Building a budget in Improv.
See http://www.slip.net/~emclean/next/improv.html
Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTWORLD Fall 1991 Article on WordPerfect
Date: 27 Nov 1998 10:15:53 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
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Check it out at :
http://www.slip.net/~emclean/next/wp.html
Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Apple Enterprise promotional quicktime movies
Date: 27 Nov 1998 12:03:37 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
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Under construction but check out :
http://www.leaveithere.com/wawa
I'm interested in your experience since only a few of
the movies play for me.
emclean@slip.net
Thanks,
Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Seek German to English translations of OlafAM zsnd files
Date: 27 Nov 1998 14:02:54 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <73n7ie$4o4@slip.net>
Hi,
Anyone out there with the time to listen to
the .zsnd files of OlafAM and translate them
into English .snd files or text?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: cejensen@REMOVETHIS.winternet.com (Christian Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Optical Drive
Date: 28 Nov 1998 04:04:39 GMT
Organization: TJP Inc.
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References: <mcdougal-2111982109520001@oy.het.brandeis.edu> <73iggf$lv4$1@blackice.winternet.com> <01be1a5e$81ad0340$a498f4d0@hackmasteer-2k>
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You (Chauncey Smith <Chaunceys@juno.com>) wrote
in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 27 Nov 1998 23:35:52 GMT:
>
> you wouldn't happen to know of a modern compatable opitical drive that the
> old next drives could be replaced with and still read the old format would
> you?
I don't think such a thing exists, or it would be widely used and known about in the NeXT community.
I asked this question once quite a while ago and someone (I can almost but not quite remember who) said that a PLI (or was it Canon?) optical drive of similar vintage could use the NeXT media, but only if it was formatted on that drive. Original NeXT ODs and ODs formatted in a neXT drive are AFAIK only readable in a NeXT drive. :-(
--Chris
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From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: InstantTeX and teTeX0.9
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:27:41 -0600
Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <distler-2711982227440001@192.168.0.2>
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Well . . . after much gnashing of teeth, I finally have teTeX 0.9 up and
running under NeXTStep 3.3 (hppa).
I updated HyperTeXview.app to TeXview^hyper 0.32 which works well with the
latest teTeX. Now I am looking for an updated version of InstantTeX,
specifically of TeXWorks.app.
The old version (InstantTeX.3.11) uses the command "tex -V" or "tex -v" to
tex a document. With the teTeX 0.9, this should be "tex -ipc-start" or
"tex -ipc".
TeXview^hyper 0.32 does it right, but I have not been able to find a newer
version of TeXWorks.app which does. The supposed "primary site" for
InstantTeX, <ftp://zarquon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/>, is not accepting
anonymous ftp connections.
So if any kind soul has a newer version, or access to the source code
(this is, surely, a TRIVIAL change), could you let me know?
Jacques Distler
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Optical Drive
Date: 28 Nov 1998 19:34:14 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <73pj7m$hhd$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <mcdougal-2111982109520001@oy.het.brandeis.edu> <73iggf$lv4$1@blackice.winternet.com>
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In <73nson$405$1@blackice.winternet.com> Christian Jensen wrote:
> You (Chauncey Smith <Chaunceys@juno.com>) wrote
> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 27 Nov 1998 23:35:52 GMT:
> >
> > you wouldn't happen to know of a modern compatable opitical drive that the
> > old next drives could be replaced with and still read the old format would
> > you?
>
> I don't think such a thing exists, or it would be widely used and known about in the NeXT
community.
>
> I asked this question once quite a while ago and someone (I can almost but not quite remember who)
said that a PLI (or was it Canon?) optical drive of similar vintage could use the NeXT media, but
only if it was formatted on that drive. Original NeXT ODs and ODs formatted in a neXT drive are AFAIK
only readable in a NeXT drive. :-(
>
Canon did make a version of the Optical for the rest of the world. I do not know what the
interface was. This was top of the line technology in it's day 8-10 years ago, but it didn't
take too long for the next step in the technology to be made which went to 128 (3.5"), and
600/650(5.25") with a different layout on the platter. This happened sometime in the 90-91
time frames. Once it did that was the end of the 256M proprietary media.
I doubt you'll find a commercial vendor that sells a optical drive that is compatible
with the NeXT Optical carts. And as I've said before if you have one that works
get everything off of those platters you need and then remove the drive from your
machine. I have one in a display 030 cube, but I rarely turn it on. As to saving
the data. I've built 1.0, 2.0, 2.1 on a couple of the newer MO platters and they are
bootable. I've long since sold most of my carts because I knew that the old NeXT
MO drives wern't long for this world..
Heck even the newer MO technology is going by the wayside of CD-RW, and DVD
(soon DVD-RW). I really hope DVD-RW is as robust as MO since I have found
tape media to not be satisfactory for archival purposes.
Randy Rencsok
rencsok or spammers at
ruin d0t the d0t internet d0t channelu d0t com
http://www.channelu.com/Staff.html
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <24666911710829@digifix.com>
Date: 29 Nov 1998 04:45:35 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <18755912315622@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: ALBERTO ORTEGA SOCORRO <8903525905#alorso@bbvnet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SuperDebugger 3.9
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:26:05 +0000
Organization: BBV
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Is there any patch for the Intel version of SuperDebugger 3.9? If so,
mail me the direction to alorso@bbvnet.com, please...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gary@spiritwars.com.spam.spam.spam (Gary)
Subject: Re: OpenStep for Solaris
References: <365b7a67.0@ns2.light-speed.net> <365be770.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Message-ID: <36609607.0@ns2.light-speed.net>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:20:59 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:20:59 MDT
Organization: ELI.NET Employee NewsReader Service
In article <365be770.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>, sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote:
>If you have Openstep 1.0, take a look at http://www.peanuts.org and search
>for solaris. In OpenStep/implementation/solaris/OpenStep.1.1.tar.gz there is
>a much more improved version of Openstep for solaris (by Lighthouse) which
>installs out of the box under Solaris 2.5.1 (sparc).
The 1.1 install that's on Peanuts is a corrupt tar file. I tried it from the
mirrors and it's the same problem. Do you know of any other place to find it?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Yeah, it's a great window manager. I've been using KDE on Solaris lately, too.
Having a bit of trouble getting XDM logins to work properly but I haven't had
time to check and see if XDM works for anything else, either...
-Gary
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: gcc's libgcc.a on a m68k-next-nextstep3 - SOS
Date: 29 Nov 1998 19:11:34 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <73t2d6$rgp@slip.net>
References: <73ron5$amd$1@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Interesting that you ask. I ran into this problem
when installing perl with gcc on NS 3.3.
I ended up removing gcc, reinstalling the 3.3 patches,
then installing gcc.
Experimented with various versions of libgcc.a
to no avail. Was a drag.
Emmett
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: gcc's libgcc.a on a m68k-next-nextstep3 - SOS
Date: 29 Nov 1998 15:20:05 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <73ron5$amd$1@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Nov 1998 15:20:05 GMT
Originator: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Please e-mail me your
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/m68k-next-nextstep3/2.8.1/libgcc.a
Mine is defective and I can't fix it. It maybe a gcc bug on OS 32.
Thanks! Best Regards, Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-5310 (Office/Answering Device)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to increase default sendmail max message size on NS 3.3?
Date: 29 Nov 1998 08:36:35 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <73rt6j$fmd@slip.net>
Hi,
I'm running NS 3.3 and I've been running into problems
because sendmail assigns a default value maxium message
size of 500kb for a message. Is there a way to change
this?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: Jan Richling <richling@informatik.hu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to increase default sendmail max message size on NS 3.3?
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:18:50 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Berlin, Deutschland
Message-ID: <qlvr37.c51.ln@vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de>
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Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote:
> I'm running NS 3.3 and I've been running into problems
> because sendmail assigns a default value maxium message
> size of 500kb for a message. Is there a way to change
> this?
/etc/sendmail.cf :
O MaxMessageSize=1000000
or whatever you want.
Jan
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From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to increase default sendmail max message size on NS 3.3?
Organization: would be nice
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References: <73rt6j$fmd@slip.net> <qlvr37.c51.ln@vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <F8g82.1177$Ay3.3103935@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:12:53 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:12:53 EDT
In <qlvr37.c51.ln@vega.informatik.hu-berlin.de> Jan Richling wrote:
> Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote:
> > I'm running NS 3.3 and I've been running into problems
> > because sendmail assigns a default value maxium message
> > size of 500kb for a message. Is there a way to change
> > this?
>
> /etc/sendmail.cf :
>
> O MaxMessageSize=1000000
>
> or whatever you want.
Is this for INCOMING messages or OUTGOING messages?
MaxMessageSize isn't on by default AFAIK.
Mail.app has an "Expert" preference called "Send Limit" which is set to 500kb
by default.... you can change that pretty easily
TjL
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Summer '92 NeXTWORLD SimonSays review
Date: 29 Nov 1998 13:09:17 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <73sd5t$r@slip.net>
Hi,
I've been getting a surprising amount of traffic
(245 unique IPs) with my recent NeXTWorld posts.
In fact, some one in Brazil was kind enough to
encourage me to do a few more posts. So here is
Lee Sherman's 1992 review of SimonSays.
Emmett
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Summer '92 NeXTWORLD SimonSays review
Date: 30 Nov 1998 06:31:52 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <73te4o$ilk$1@news.digifix.com>
References: <73sd5t$r@slip.net>
In-Reply-To: <73sd5t$r@slip.net>
On 11/29/98, Emmett McLean wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've been getting a surprising amount of traffic
>(245 unique IPs) with my recent NeXTWorld posts.
>In fact, some one in Brazil was kind enough to
>encourage me to do a few more posts. So here is
>Lee Sherman's 1992 review of SimonSays.
>
Stepwise was lucky enough to get permission from NeXTWORLD to
do this back some years ago.. they also supplied us the disks with the
articles on them.
They've been on Stepwise for years at
http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Magazines/
Including some NeXT IN LINE issues.
--
Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com>
Stepwise - OpenStep/Rhapsody Information
<URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
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Subject: Re: OpenStep for Solaris
References: <365b7a67.0@ns2.light-speed.net> <365be770.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <36609607.0@ns2.light-speed.net>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3662727a.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 30 Nov 98 10:24:58 GMT
gary@spiritwars.com.spam.spam.spam (Gary) wrote:
>In article <365be770.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>, sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-
>wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote:
>
>>If you have Openstep 1.0, take a look at http://www.peanuts.org and
>>search for solaris. In
>>OpenStep/implementation/solaris/OpenStep.1.1.tar.gz there is a much
>>more improved version of Openstep for solaris (by Lighthouse) which
>>installs out of the box under Solaris 2.5.1 (sparc).
>
>The 1.1 install that's on Peanuts is a corrupt tar file. I tried it
>from the mirrors and it's the same problem. Do you know of any other
>place to find it? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Not totally true. Opener/gnutar just sets many write-execute-permissions on
directories, which is annoying in Opener. I suggest unpacking the package on
a SUN with gtar xpfvz OpenStep.1.1.tar.gz and ignoring the errors. The
contentes of the package works fine. This problem is still from the
original-package from Lighthouse et al and I did not want to alter anything
on this package (guess who uploaded it to peanuts, before it vanishes in the
sea of information ;-))
grretings
Sven
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: print to a postscript version of a file from command line
Date: 30 Nov 1998 07:18:27 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <73ud03$kkj@slip.net>
Hi,
Is there a way to create a postscript version of a
file from the UNIX command line? Like what you'd
get if you could put the result of lpr into a
postscript file. I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3.
Thanks,
Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: convert a fax to postscript
Date: 30 Nov 1998 07:20:25 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <73ud3p$kmc@slip.net>
References: <73ud03$kkj@slip.net>
Is there a command line app which will convert a fax
into postscript?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: gcc's libgcc.a on a m68k-next-nextstep3 - SOS
Date: 30 Nov 1998 15:33:57 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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>Please e-mail me your
>/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/m68k-next-nextstep3/2.8.1/libgcc.a
>
>Mine is defective and I can't fix it. It maybe a gcc bug on OS 32. Thanks!
>Best Regards, Paul
What exactly is the problem? If you get a warning about unsorted members of
the library, that is harmless, and mostly unfixable (see
gcc-i386.2.8.1.2.README for details).
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From: holger@_REMOVE_THIS_.wizards.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: gcc's libgcc.a on a m68k-next-nextstep3 - SOS
Date: 30 Nov 1998 17:58:58 GMT
Organization: The secret circle of the NSRC
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> >Please e-mail me your
> >/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/m68k-next-nextstep3/2.8.1/libgcc.a
> >
> >Mine is defective and I can't fix it. It maybe a gcc bug on OS 32. Thanks!
> >Best Regards, Paul
>
> What exactly is the problem? If you get a warning about unsorted members of
> the library, that is harmless, and mostly unfixable (see
> gcc-i386.2.8.1.2.README for details).
Just in case people don't know this:
one can make gcc shut up by putting a "-w" into the link section of the
specs file. This will prevent the linker from complaining about warnings,
and is also a nice way to prevent the normal 4.2 compiler from
complaining when linking -dynamic code against a static library.
The latter can also be achieved by adding "-read_only_relocs suppress".
Holger
From: me@daveyohill.earthlink.net (Davey O')
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Summer '92 NeXTWORLD SimonSays review
Date: 1 Dec 1998 00:03:39 GMT
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> They've been on Stepwise for years at
>
> http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Magazines/
Is there any other cool stuff hidden those Stepwise vaults? Thanks alot
Scott!
Regards,
David
From: tb303@earthlink.net (dave-g)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: clean sweep for NS 3.3?
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:09:16 -0500
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <tb303-3011982209160001@1cust154.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net>
is there a way to wipe out the complete contents of a drive (besides rm -r
/*)? i want to install a fresh copy of NS 3.3 (from the floppy and CD),
and none of the typical ways seem to work, ie, booting from the floppy and
cd hangs at the initializing system status screen, installing from the
command line seems to install what i need, but then the file sytem is read
only!
btw, how do i go back to having a rw file system?
thanks for everyone's help on the list!
ps. nils, i haven't forgotten about your request!
From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Summer '92 NeXTWORLD SimonSays review
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-> Way cool Scott!
>
> Do you think they would mind if I scanned/jpegged the magazines and dropped
> them all on line? (Complete and intact)
>
> I had been considering hitting a friend who works at a printer shop this
weekend
> and trying to get them done in one shot. (Though it's a big job) But I
don't want
> to waste my time if I will just have to remove them later.
I was thinking how nice it would be if someone made .pdf versions of all the
issues. I would add them to all the other NeXT lit accessible on my site,
as I'm sure others would. If anyone has the time and the means to do this,
please let us know.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Summer '92 NeXTWORLD SimonSays review
Date: 1 Dec 1998 05:13:16 GMT
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In <73te4o$ilk$1@news.digifix.com> Scott Anguish wrote:
> On 11/29/98, Emmett McLean wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I've been getting a surprising amount of traffic
> >(245 unique IPs) with my recent NeXTWorld posts.
> >In fact, some one in Brazil was kind enough to
> >encourage me to do a few more posts. So here is
> >Lee Sherman's 1992 review of SimonSays.
> >
>
> Stepwise was lucky enough to get permission from NeXTWORLD to
> do this back some years ago.. they also supplied us the disks with the
> articles on them.
>
> They've been on Stepwise for years at
>
> http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Magazines/
>
> Including some NeXT IN LINE issues.
>
Way cool Scott!
Do you think they would mind if I scanned/jpegged the magazines and dropped
them all on line? (Complete and intact)
I had been considering hitting a friend who works at a printer shop this weekend
and trying to get them done in one shot. (Though it's a big job) But I don't want
to waste my time if I will just have to remove them later.
Randy Rencsok
rencsok or spammers at
ruin d0t the d0t internet d0t channelu d0t com
http://www.channelu.com/Staff.html
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From: Gary Driggs <gary@spiritwars.com.spam.spam.spam>
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Subject: Re: OpenStep for Solaris
References: <365b7a67.0@ns2.light-speed.net> <365be770.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <36609607.0@ns2.light-speed.net> <3662727a.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
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Sven Droll wrote:
> Not totally true. Opener/gnutar just sets many write-execute-permissions on
> directories, which is annoying in Opener. I suggest unpacking the package on
> a SUN with gtar xpfvz OpenStep.1.1.tar.gz and ignoring the errors. The
> contentes of the package works fine. This problem is still from the
Well... here's what's happening... thanks for any suggestions.
# gunzip OpenStep.1.1.tar.gz
# tar xvf OpenStep.1.1.tar
x ./JavaPlan_RunTime, 0 bytes, 0 tape blocks
x ./JavaPlan_RunTime/SUNWOosUa, 0 bytes, 0 tape blocks
x ./JavaPlan_RunTime/SUNWOosUa/pkgmap, 87638 bytes, 172 tape blocks
x ./JavaPlan_RunTime/SUNWOosUa/pkginfo, 382 bytes, 1 tape blocks
x ./JavaPlan_RunTime/SUNWOosUa/reloc, 0 bytes, 0 tape blocks
x ./JavaPlan_RunTime/SUNWOosUa/reloc/SUNWdoe, 0 bytes, 0 tape blocks
x ./JavaPlan_RunTime/SUNWOosUa/reloc/SUNWdoe/openstep, 0 bytes, 0 tape
blocks
x ./JavaPlan_RunTime/SUNWOosUa/reloc/SUNWdoe/openstep/Demos, 0 bytes, 0
tape blocks
x
./JavaPlan_RunTime/SUNWOosUa/reloc/SUNWdoe/openstep/Demos/AudioEditor.app,
0 bytes, 0 tape blocks
x
./JavaPlan_RunTime/SUNWOosUa/reloc/SUNWdoe/openstep/Demos/AudioEditor.app/AudioEditor,
80896 bytes, 158 tape blocks
x
./JavaPlan_RunTime/SUNWOosUa/reloc/SUNWdoe/openstep/Demos/AudioEditor.app/AudioEditor.tiff,
9410 bytes, 19 tape blocks
x
./JavaPlan_RunTime/SUNWOosUa/reloc/SUNWdoe/openstep/Demos/AudioEditor.app/C.lproj,
0 bytes, 0 tape blocks
tar: directory checksum error
-Gary
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3663d73b.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 1 Dec 98 11:47:07 GMT
Gary Driggs <gary@spiritwars.com.spam.spam.spam> wrote:
>Sven Droll wrote:
>
>> Not totally true. Opener/gnutar just sets many write-execute-
>> permissions on directories, which is annoying in Opener. I suggest
>> unpacking the package on a SUN with gtar xpfvz OpenStep.1.1.tar.gz
>> and ignoring the errors. The contentes of the package works fine.
>> This problem is still from the
>
>Well... here's what's happening... thanks for any suggestions.
>
># gunzip OpenStep.1.1.tar.gz
># tar xvf OpenStep.1.1.tar
>x ./JavaPlan_RunTime, 0 bytes, 0 tape blocks
---snip---
This does not look familiar to me. I always use GnuTar on Solaris machines,
because the tar from Solaris 2.5.1 does not work correctly in many ways. Try
getting a new gtar and gnuzip and replace your commandlines above with
gtar xpfvz OpenStep.1.1.tar.gz
BTW:
sum : 01658 8283
md5sum: 001b11671a407129f00af59c58c927e1
greets
Sven
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Seek German to English translations of OlafAM zsnd files
Date: 1 Dec 1998 12:04:59 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / CC
Distribution: world
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References: <73n7ie$4o4@slip.net>
In article <73n7ie$4o4@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Anyone out there with the time to listen to
> the .zsnd files of OlafAM and translate them
> into English .snd files or text?
I'm not sure if these translateions I made are perfectly
accurate (or even reasonable english language), but I'll try.
First the original german text then the translation.
OlafAM.app/lib/Rprivate.aml/LastMessageArchived.zsnd
OlafAM.app/lib/Zprivate.aml/LastMessageArchived.zsnd
Die letzte Nachricht wurde archiviert
The latest message has been stored
OlafAM.app/lib/Zprivate.aml/NoMessageForFriend.zsnd
OlafAM.app/lib/Rprivate.aml/NoMessageForFriend.zsnd
Keine Nachricht vorhanden. - Wenn Sie wollen,
koennen Sie gleich selbst eine Nachricht hinterlassen.
No message present. - If you want to,
you can leave a message on your own.
OlafAM.app/lib/Rprivate.aml/NoMessageToArchive.zsnd
OlafAM.app/lib/Zprivate.aml/NoMessageToArchive.zsnd
Es gibt keine Nachricht zu archivieren.
There is no message to be stored.
OlafAM.app/lib/Rprivate.aml/NoMessageToPlay.zsnd
OlafAM.app/lib/Zprivate.aml/NoMessageToPlay.zsnd
Es gibt keine Nachricht abzuspielen.
There is no message to be played.
OlafAM.app/lib/Rprivate.aml/RootMenu.zsnd
OlafAM.app/lib/Zprivate.aml/RootMenu.zsnd
Druecken Sie die '1' um eine Nachricht zu hoeren,
druecken Sie die '2' um eine gehoerte Nachricht zu archivieren.
Press '1' to listen to a message,
press '2' to store a message already heard.
OlafAM.app/lib/Rprivate.aml/TimeLimit.zsnd
OlafAM.app/lib/Zprivate.aml/TimeLimit.zsnd
Die Zeitgrenze ist erreicht - Auf Wiedersehen.
The time limit has been reached - Good Bye.
OlafAM.app/lib/Rprivate.aml/Welcome.zsnd
OlafAM.app/lib/Rsimple.aml/Welcome.zsnd
OlafAM.app/lib/Zprivate.aml/Welcome.zsnd
OlafAM.app/lib/ZproductInfo.aml/Welcome.zsnd
OlafAM.app/lib/Zsimple.aml/Welcome.zsnd
Ich bin vieleicht nicht da. Wenn Sie wollen,
koennen Sie gleich eine Nachricht hinterlassen.
I'm possibly not "there" (reachable ?).
If you want to, you can leave a message.
OlafAM.app/lib/Usimple.aml/Welcome.zsnd
[Doesn't play with OlafAM.app/bin/zsndplay ]
Since I don't know the common phrases for answering
machines in english, some native speaker should have
an eye on these sentences before producing .snd files ...
Detlev
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From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenStep for Solaris
Date: 1 Dec 1998 14:58:29 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
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Gary Driggs <gary@spiritwars.com.spam.spam.spam> writes:
> ../JavaPlan_RunTime/SUNWOosUa/reloc/SUNWdoe/openstep/Demos/AudioEditor.app/C.lproj,
> 0 bytes, 0 tape blocks
> tar: directory checksum error
>
Uh, did you download the file in *binary* mode ?
Mine works fine (well, untars anyway):
-rw-r--r-- 1 pete 8480946 May 11 1998 Solaris.OpenStep.1.1.tar.gz
The output from "sum" under OpenStep 4.2 is: 01658 8283
-bat.
PS: how do I use this tar file to run OpenStep/Solwaris ? just unpack into / ?
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: clean sweep for NS 3.3?
Date: 1 Dec 1998 20:22:45 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
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tb303@earthlink.net (dave-g) wrote:
>is there a way to wipe out the complete contents of a drive (besides rm -r
>/*)? i want to install a fresh copy of NS 3.3 (from the floppy and CD),
>and none of the typical ways seem to work, ie, booting from the floppy and
>cd hangs at the initializing system status screen, installing from the
>command line seems to install what i need, but then the file sytem is read
>only!
Sounds like you may have SCSI bus problems with termination or dup. id's.
Anyway, the Format command of /usr/etc/disk will erase a disk completely....
>btw, how do i go back to having a rw file system?
mount -o remount /
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away.
----------------+-------------------+----------------------------
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From: spagiola@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Rhapsody release??
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 23:26:37 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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me@seifert.educ.mun.ca (Tim Seifert) wrote:
> Has Rhapsody been released yet? Some are telling me that MacOS 8.5 is
> Rhapsody. Is this so?
No, OS8.5 is definitely NOT Rhapsody.
What used to be called Rhapsody is now known as OS X Server. And no, that's
not been released yet, although almost everyone seems to believe that it's
ready to ship, and has been for some time. Apple has said absolutely nothing,
except that when a "MacOS X Server is cancelled" rumor came up about a month
ago, they eventually said that no, it wasn't cancelled and was expected to
ship this year. Current conventional wisdom is that it probably will be
released at Macworld SF in early January, but that doesn't seem to be based
on any solid information. No word on pricing, either.
Stefano Pagiola
---
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From: Alberto Ortega Socorro <alorso@bbvnet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Debuggers, SuperDebugger 3.9 for Openstep
Date: 1 Dec 1998 23:18:49 GMT
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I am looking for a graphical debugger for Openstep 4.1 for Mach. My first
choice was SuperDebugger 3.9 but it doesnÂt work. Anyway if you acceed to the
SuperDebugger 3.9 page of the server www.scribex .com (yet accesible from
sites like Altavista) it says: "system requirements are NEXTSTEP 3.1 or
later, or OPENSTEP 4.x for MACH" which suggests that exist SuperDebugger 3.9
for Openstep.
Is this true? If so, how can I get it?
If not, please recommend me a good graphical debugger for Openstep.
Thanks,
Alberto Ortega Socorro.
From: me (My Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Debuggers, SuperDebugger 3.9 for Openstep
Date: 1 Dec 1998 23:04:45 GMT
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I am looking for a graphical debugger. My first choice was SuperDebugger, but
it looks it doenÂt work on Openstep. Anyway, if you
From: me@seifert.educ.mun.ca (Tim Seifert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Rhapsody release??
Date: 1 Dec 1998 19:35:56 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Message-ID: <741ges$vhl$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
Has Rhapsody been released yet? Some are telling me that MacOS 8.5 is
Rhapsody. Is this so?
Tim Seifert
St. John's, Newfoundland
From: malcolm@plsys.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Rhapsody release??
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 01:36:01 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <7425i1$hc1$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
References: <741ges$vhl$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <741tva$atr$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <741tva$atr$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
spagiola@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Apple has said absolutely nothing, except that when a "MacOS X Server
> is cancelled" rumor came up about a month ago, they eventually said
> that no, it wasn't cancelled and was expected to ship this year.
>
Hmm, would you mind if were really picky and took issue with "eventually". I
presume you're referring to Don Crabb's article? If so, he was told in no
uncertain terms that his article was in error within a very short space of
time. I contacted folks in Apple about it at the time, and within a few
hours had a copy of a message which had been sent to Don which repudiated his
article clearly. Why it took a further three days for Don to finally admit
that he was in error is something of a mystery. Cf also the related Stepwise
article -- http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/Resort.html
> Current conventional wisdom is that it probably will be
> released at Macworld SF in early January, but that doesn't seem to be
> based on any solid information.
>
The WebObjects 4 announcement put the release date in 1999; MWSF would seem
like the most sensible date early in the year.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
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From: "Markus Wenzel" <Markus.Wenzel@brokat.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: print to a postscript version of a file from command line
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:30:53 +0100
Organization: BROKAT Informationssysteme
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Emmett McLean wrote in message <73ud03$kkj@slip.net>...
>Hi,
>
>Is there a way to create a postscript version of a
>file from the UNIX command line? Like what you'd
>get if you could put the result of lpr into a
>postscript file. I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3.
type "man enscript"
From: Norbert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WTB: Mathematica
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 13:46:59 +0100
Organization: University of Rostock
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I am looking for someone willing to sell their Mathematica 3.x for
OpenStep Intel...
Cheers,
Nor
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Rhapsody release??
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 14:45:02 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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References: <741ges$vhl$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <741tva$atr$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <7425i1$hc1$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
malcolm@plsys.co.uk wrote:
> spagiola@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > Apple has said absolutely nothing, except that when a "MacOS X Server
> > is cancelled" rumor came up about a month ago, they eventually said
> > that no, it wasn't cancelled and was expected to ship this year
>
> Hmm, would you mind if were really picky and took issue with "eventually". I
> presume you're referring to Don Crabb's article? If so, he was told in no
> uncertain terms that his article was in error within a very short space of
> time. I contacted folks in Apple about it at the time, and within a few
> hours had a copy of a message which had been sent to Don which repudiated his
> article clearly. Why it took a further three days for Don to finally admit
> that he was in error is something of a mystery.
OK, I'll retract the "eventually". Though from the perspective of people
watching, it did take several days before anything *appeared* to come out of
Apple.
> > Current conventional wisdom is that it probably will be
> > released at Macworld SF in early January, but that doesn't seem to be
> > based on any solid information.
>
> The WebObjects 4 announcement put the release date in 1999; MWSF would seem
> like the most sensible date early in the year.
The denial that OSX Server was cancelled said it would ship this year. Since
it hasn't shipped yet, it seems natural to expect that it will ship at the
next "obvious" time to make an announcement, ie MWSF. Add to that various
oblique statements made in the context of WO, and once again, expecting OSX
Server at MWSF seems "sensible." But it all remains conjecture.
Stefano Pagiola
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From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (Abraham Guyt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS 3.3: Using local soft PS fonts with the lpr command ??
Date: 2 Dec 1998 15:04:02 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Message-ID: <743kt2$lrl$1@news.tudelft.nl>
Hi,
It is possible to print a postscript file that uses local soft postscipt
fonts with the lpr command ? I use NS 3.3 but when I choose 'Print' in
Edit.app and save the postscript file, and print this file with 'lpr', the
local fonts are ignored. 'Man lpr' says that local fonts are not
supported.
Does anyone know how to ensure that the local (non-standard) PS fonts are
included in the file sent to the Printer ?
Regards,
Abraham.
_____________________________________________________________________
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P.O.Box 356
Department of Information Systems 2600 AJ Delft
Faculty Information Technology & Systems The Netherlands
Delft University of Technology tel: +31 15 278
5969
E-mail: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl fax: +31 15 278
6632
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS 3.3: Using local soft PS fonts with the lpr command ??
Organization: would be nice
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 20:29:47 GMT
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Save the file as PostScript using the Print Panel.
When you do so, select the option for 'Chosen Printer / Include Fonts'
The .ps file should then retain the fonts in the original document.
I think this is a solution to what you are asking.
TjL
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From: "Raphael B. Leib" <raph@uchicago.edu>
Subject: NeXTstation boot problems
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Hi!
I'm new to NeXT, so please excuse my ignorance.
I recently decided to revive a NeXT station (25MHz '040 processor, B/W
display, not Turbo as far as I can tell... like I said, I'm new to this
so I can't really give a better hardware description, but I assume NeXT
only made one box that fits my description, so I hope y'all know which
one I'm talking about) that a friend had left sitting in my closet last
summer.
I found a friend with a working color turbo NeXT station and after
receiving his assurance that his OS would run on my machine despite
their hardware differences, attached my HD (SEAGATE 1280N -- which
according to their website doesn't appear to exist -- with a 240MB
capacity) to his computer and used "builddisk" to create a bootable
system.
I then plopped the HD back into my box, plugged it in, fired 'er up, and
From: BillLeeX@cleaf.com
Subject: OCR Software for the NeXT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Message-ID: <pHk92.1015$qs1.6017@news3.ispnews.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 19:12:05 EDT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 00:12:05 GMT
Can anyone recommend software to do OCR on my NeXT? I have many scanned pages
that I wish to convert into text files.
Thanks,
Bill Lee
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From: "Raphael B. Leib" <raph@uchicago.edu>
Subject: NeXTstation boot problems
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Oh, dear!
I'm so sorry for that incomplete last message -- the cat went and sent
it before it was finished (which isn't nearly so bad as it could have
been; I once had to take away his cream priviledges for a whole week
after he hacked into a mail server and went on a spamming spree).
Anyway, here's the full text; I hope my breach of netiquette hasn't
turned everyone against me:
----------
Hi!
I'm new to NeXT, so please excuse my ignorance.
I recently decided to revive a NeXT station (25MHz '040 processor, B/W
display, not Turbo as far as I can tell... like I said, I'm new to this
so I can't really give a better hardware description, but I assume NeXT
only made one box that fits my description, so I hope y'all know which
one I'm talking about) that a friend had left sitting in my closet last
summer.
I found a friend with a working color turbo NeXT station and after
receiving his assurance that his OS would run on my machine despite
their hardware differences, attached my HD (SEAGATE 1280N -- which
according to their website doesn't appear to exist -- with a 240MB
capacity) to his computer and used "builddisk" to create a bootable
NeXTSTEP 3.2
system.
I then plopped the HD back into my box, plugged it in, fired 'er up,
and...
Presto! It broke trying to load the kernel.
I got the usual hardware recognition messages, which I won't repeat here
because they don't really seem relevant and because I'm typing this from
memory; suffice it to say it recognized NeXT Mach 3.2 and found all the
hardware, including the floppy drive and hard drive, and had no trouble
recognizing any of them.
However, after the message "root on sd0" I get the following messages:
>Load of /etc/mach_init failed, errno 2, trying /etc/init...
>Load of /etc/init failed, errno 2
Then the box just hangs. The only place I can go from there is back to
the ROM monitor, so I can't fsck the disk. The filesystem _should_ be
okay, because as I said I just initialized and built the disk using
builddisk, unless the media got damaged in transit to my machine, which
I doubt. So I _believe_ the mach kernel is where it's supposed to be;
the hardware just can't find it.
I couldn't find a definition of error number 2 (errno 2) on the
NeXTanswers site (enterprise.apple.com) or anywhere else. Does anyone
know what this error is, or what could be wrong? Is this a hardware
problem? Or is it possible my data just got corrupted?
Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Raphael B. Leib
raph@uchicago.edu
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: print to a postscript version of a file from command line
Date: 2 Dec 1998 17:02:35 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <744nvb$l3r@slip.net>
References: <73ud03$kkj@slip.net> <7438el$2bt$1@news.LF.net>
Good tip.
But from what I could tell enscript only works with
text files. What I'd really like to do is convert
NeXT fax files into postsript - so that later
I can convert them into pdf with pstill.
Am I missing something?
Thanks,
Emmett
Markus Wenzel <Markus.Wenzel@brokat.de> wrote:
>
>Emmett McLean wrote in message <73ud03$kkj@slip.net>...
>>Hi,
>>
>>Is there a way to create a postscript version of a
>>file from the UNIX command line? Like what you'd
>>get if you could put the result of lpr into a
>>postscript file. I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3.
>
>
>type "man enscript"
>
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTstation boot problems
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 01:03:34 GMT
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NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
In <3665D792.9BBD5E0A@uchicago.edu> "Raphael B. Leib" wrote:
> Oh, dear!
>
> I'm so sorry for that incomplete last message -- the cat went and sent
> it before it was finished (which isn't nearly so bad as it could have
> been; I once had to take away his cream priviledges for a whole week
> after he hacked into a mail server and went on a spamming spree).
> Anyway, here's the full text; I hope my breach of netiquette hasn't
> turned everyone against me:
No, but you should read
http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html
about which group (note the singular) to post to.
I actually would have gone w/ csn.sysadmin over the others in this case.
> However, after the message "root on sd0" I get the following messages:
> >Load of /etc/mach_init failed, errno 2, trying /etc/init...
> >Load of /etc/init failed, errno 2
[snip]
> I couldn't find a definition of error number 2 (errno 2) on the
> NeXTanswers site (enterprise.apple.com) or anywhere else. Does anyone
> know what this error is, or what could be wrong? Is this a hardware
> problem? Or is it possible my data just got corrupted?
www.dejanews.com is a good source.. do a power search on comp.sys.next.*
Anyway, the short answer is that you need to do a reinstall.
The OS is hosed.
errno 2 means that the file wasn't found IIRC
It's a symptom of a greater problem (most likely)
TjL
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From: "David A. Johnson" <daj@nwu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTstation boot problems
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 21:41:31 -0500
Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server
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I might be able to give you a hand. I'm in Chicago at Northwestern
University. I have several old Black NeXT's and even more 'White' (Intel)
NeXT's. drop me some email with a phone number and I'll see if we can link
up.
David Johnson, use this email: daj@nwu.edu
"Raphael B. Leib" wrote:
> Oh, dear!
>
> I'm so sorry for that incomplete last message -- the cat went and sent
> it before it was finished (which isn't nearly so bad as it could have
> been; I once had to take away his cream priviledges for a whole week
> after he hacked into a mail server and went on a spamming spree).
> Anyway, here's the full text; I hope my breach of netiquette hasn't
> turned everyone against me:
> ----------
> Hi!
>
> I'm new to NeXT, so please excuse my ignorance.
>
> I recently decided to revive a NeXT station (25MHz '040 processor, B/W
> display, not Turbo as far as I can tell... like I said, I'm new to this
> so I can't really give a better hardware description, but I assume NeXT
> only made one box that fits my description, so I hope y'all know which
> one I'm talking about) that a friend had left sitting in my closet last
> summer.
>
> I found a friend with a working color turbo NeXT station and after
> receiving his assurance that his OS would run on my machine despite
> their hardware differences, attached my HD (SEAGATE 1280N -- which
> according to their website doesn't appear to exist -- with a 240MB
> capacity) to his computer and used "builddisk" to create a bootable
> NeXTSTEP 3.2
> system.
>
> I then plopped the HD back into my box, plugged it in, fired 'er up,
> and...
> Presto! It broke trying to load the kernel.
> I got the usual hardware recognition messages, which I won't repeat here
> because they don't really seem relevant and because I'm typing this from
> memory; suffice it to say it recognized NeXT Mach 3.2 and found all the
> hardware, including the floppy drive and hard drive, and had no trouble
> recognizing any of them.
>
> However, after the message "root on sd0" I get the following messages:
> >Load of /etc/mach_init failed, errno 2, trying /etc/init...
> >Load of /etc/init failed, errno 2
>
> Then the box just hangs. The only place I can go from there is back to
> the ROM monitor, so I can't fsck the disk. The filesystem _should_ be
> okay, because as I said I just initialized and built the disk using
> builddisk, unless the media got damaged in transit to my machine, which
> I doubt. So I _believe_ the mach kernel is where it's supposed to be;
> the hardware just can't find it.
>
> I couldn't find a definition of error number 2 (errno 2) on the
> NeXTanswers site (enterprise.apple.com) or anywhere else. Does anyone
> know what this error is, or what could be wrong? Is this a hardware
> problem? Or is it possible my data just got corrupted?
>
> Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Raphael B. Leib
> raph@uchicago.edu
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS 3.3: Using local soft PS fonts with the lpr command ??
Date: 3 Dec 1998 02:38:53 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk
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guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (Abraham Guyt) writes:
> Does anyone know how to ensure that the local (non-standard) PS fonts are
> included in the file sent to the Printer ?
The "fontloader" program will generate a fragment of PostScript contyaining
a font for downloadfing into the rpinter (just oprint it) or else save the PS
file to include the nexssary fonts (an option under the save panel)
-bat.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: print to a postscript version of a file from command line
Date: 3 Dec 1998 02:40:52 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
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emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes:
> text files. What I'd really like to do is convert
> NeXT fax files into postsript - so that later
> I can convert them into pdf with pstill.
Get a copy of tiff2ps from somewhere...there are umpteen versions
of this program lying about. I'm fairly convinced that fairly early
on in life just about every NeXT programme hacks up a tiff2ps
program for their own use anyway.
Shame theres no NeXT suppllied tool to do it, buit there you go...
(will imageviewer save as PS ? you could try that)
-bat.
From: genji@minamoto.vnet.net (Michael Brigham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where is OlafAM.app?
References: <73n7ie$4o4@slip.net> <740m1b$h8b$1@newshost>
Message-ID: <slrn76c8kl.vue.genji@minamoto.vnet.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 05:38:35 GMT
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Organization: Vnet Internet Access
Hi,
Can anyone point me to where I can find this app?
I've searched all over peak, peanuts, leo, etc, and tried out just about
every search engine (all the links I've found point to peanuts.leo.org
which is no longer accessible) and can't find any trace of it.
If anyone could tell me where to find it or would be willing to send it to
me, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
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"...what are you supposed to do if you ARE a manically depressed
robot? No, don't bother to answer that, I'm fifty thousand times
more intelligent than you and even I don't know the answer. It
gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level."
-- Marvin, the Paranoid Android
==================================================================
From: bobs@terrapin.phys.washington.edu (Robert Singleton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: voice recognition
Date: 3 Dec 1998 08:02:18 GMT
Organization: R'lyeh
Message-ID: <745gia$r8e$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu>
Are there any simple voice recognition programs for the NeXT?
(I'm running NS3.2 on black hardware.) It would be fun to have
some voice activated commands. For example, rather than typing
"ppp" in the shell, it would be fun to have ppp activated by a
voice command.
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Department of Physics fax : (206) 685-0635
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where is OlafAM.app?
Date: 3 Dec 1998 09:07:43 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / CC
Distribution: world
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References: <slrn76c8kl.vue.genji@minamoto.vnet.net>
In article <slrn76c8kl.vue.genji@minamoto.vnet.net> genji@minamoto.vnet.net
(Michael Brigham) writes:
> Can anyone point me to where I can find this app?
> I've searched all over peak, peanuts, leo, etc, and tried out just about
> every search engine (all the links I've found point to peanuts.leo.org
> which is no longer accessible) and can't find any trace of it.
E.g. go to http://www.peanuts.org/ , select "english version" if
you want to, find "file search in the archive" on the bottom
left of the upper frame, click it.
Enter "OlafAM.app" in the search field and hit return. Reveals:
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/connectivity/protocol/OlafAM.1.0.6.REA
DME
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/connectivity/protocol/OlafAM.1.0.6.NIH
S.b.tar.gz
Detlev
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From: jun@jun.Stanford.EDU (Jun Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tar and Un-Tar
Date: 3 Dec 1998 11:01:02 GMT
Message-ID: <745r1e$rb6$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Hi,
I am using Linux and OpenStep on my intel machine with sharing one
home directory. For back-up I did TAR my home directory(about 600M)
to one xxx.tar file. After UN-TAR of xxx.tar I lost about 50M of
files and directories. I think those are still in the TAR file. I
tried UN-TAR on both Linux and OpenStep. I also tried TAR and GNUTAR.
Please give me any suggestions to get those missing files.
Thanks in advance,
jun
jun@jun.stanford.edu
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tar and Un-Tar
Organization: would be nice
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Message-ID: <oEx92.28$hQ3.137354@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 14:56:20 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 09:56:20 EDT
In <745r1e$rb6$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Jun Kim wrote:
> Please give me any suggestions to get those missing files.
in a shell
gnutar -tvf /path/to/xxx.tar
that will show you what is in there and any errors as well.
If there aren't any errors, then the files were not in thar .tar archive
> -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
[many lines of crap deleted]
Anyone got the line on why NewsGrazer puts all that crud in there?
TjL
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From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: voice recognition
Organization: would be nice
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 14:58:13 GMT
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Yes:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/tools/SimonSaysDemo1.5.1.README
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/tools/SimonSaysDemo1.5.1.tar.gz
You can find an old review at
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/documents/misc/outdated/SimonSays/SimonSays
Review.ps.gz
Unfortunately it is a time-limited demo, and I don't think they are still
selling licenses.
There was rumor-word awhile back that the company had OK'd the distribution
of the program, but no official-word
TjL
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From: jmeacham@wittgenstein.jhuccp.org (James D. Meacham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OCR Software for the NeXT
Date: 3 Dec 1998 15:21:24 GMT
Organization: The Center for Communications Programs of the Johns Hopkins University
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Cc: BillLee@cleaf.com
In <pHk92.1015$qs1.6017@news3.ispnews.com> BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> Can anyone recommend software to do OCR on my NeXT? I have many scanned
pages
> that I wish to convert into text files.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Lee
> (Take out the X to respond)
>
I have a program from HSD called OCRServant that seems to do a pretty good
job if the pages are scanned in fairly well. Not a perfect solution, not a
fast solution, but hey, it runs on Black HW and will work on any tiff file,
incuding faxes and the like. If you'd like a copy, let me know. Peace,
James
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From: jmeacham@wittgenstein.jhuccp.org (James D. Meacham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: voice recognition
Date: 3 Dec 1998 15:23:58 GMT
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In <745gia$r8e$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu> Robert Singleton wrote:
>
> Are there any simple voice recognition programs for the NeXT?
> (I'm running NS3.2 on black hardware.) It would be fun to have
> some voice activated commands. For example, rather than typing
> "ppp" in the shell, it would be fun to have ppp activated by a
> voice command.
>
>
There's SimonSays, which I remember being a surprisingly agile application on
Black HW. I think you can still get demos off the archives. Good luck.
Peace,
James
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From: Randy M Bowie <bowie@hydra.cche.olemiss.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: clean sweep for NS 3.3?
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:10:41 -0600
Organization: Center for Computational Hydroscience and Engineering
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To: dave-g <tb303@earthlink.net>
dave-g wrote:
>
> is there a way to wipe out the complete contents of a drive (besides rm -r
> /*)? i want to install a fresh copy of NS 3.3 (from the floppy and CD),
> and none of the typical ways seem to work, ie, booting from the floppy and
> cd hangs at the initializing system status screen, installing from the
> command line seems to install what i need, but then the file sytem is read
> only!
>
> btw, how do i go back to having a rw file system?
Sounds like you may have disk problems. bfd should get you where you
want to go since the install initializes the disk.
Your second is much easier:
mount -o remount,rw /dev/sd0a / (I don't think the rw is needed)
be sure you have the proper fstab in /private/etc (/etc) even though it
is in netinfo the file must exist and have the root drive listed
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquoto,noauto 0 1
be sure you don't have a cdrom or scsi floppy at a lower id than the
boot disk.
>
> thanks for everyone's help on the list!
>
> ps. nils, i haven't forgotten about your request!
HTH
Randy Bowie
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> Are there any simple voice recognition programs for the NeXT?
> (I'm running NS3.2 on black hardware.) It would be fun to have
> some voice activated commands. For example, rather than typing
> "ppp" in the shell, it would be fun to have ppp activated by a
> voice command.
>
SimonSays. Although my experience with it was that is was a heck of a
lot faster to hit Command-Q instead of saying "Shut down the
Application" or whatever. It's not too impressive, IMHO.
--Andrew---
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luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) wrote:
[ ... ]
> Anyone got the line on why NewsGrazer puts all that crud in there?
Blame Jayson Adams.
Others might give him credit for innovation, but I find nothing to admire
about a newsreader that spams binary garbage into non-binary newsgroups.
-Chuck
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From: research@proton.vlsi.uiuc.edu (research)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] how to open a command window?
Date: 3 Dec 1998 17:23:21 GMT
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Summary: [Q] how to open a command window?
Keywords: [Q] how to open a command window?
Hello!
I happened to have to administrate a couple of NextStep machines,
but I don't have any experience with them.
I have pretty much expreiences in administrating Unix machines like
Sun/Solaris/Linux/HP-UX.
I heard that OS of NextStep is Unix-like.
Then my first question is
(1) how to open a command window like in
any Unix environment?
Everything in the window looks clickable,
but I don't like those clickable icons. Rather,
I like to control it.
If it is really Unix-like, can I install any gnu-programs
after compiling it?
Thank you.
-- Lost in NextStep
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From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
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In <744tnk$3hf$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> -bat. wrote:
> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes:
> > text files. What I'd really like to do is convert
> > NeXT fax files into postsript - so that later
> > I can convert them into pdf with pstill.
>
> Get a copy of tiff2ps from somewhere...there are umpteen versions
> of this program lying about.
I can't find one on PEAK, Peanuts, or any of the NeXT CDs that I have.
There's an OpenStep version on the Big Green Developer CD:
/BGD3/OPENSTEP/UNIX/Graphics/GraphicsBinariesAndFrameworks/GraphicsBinaries-
MIS/tiff2ps
But nothing on Peanuts, Nebula, etc.
Any line on where this can be found?
TjL
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From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
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In <746he9$eah$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> research wrote:
> If it is really Unix-like, can I install any gnu-programs
> after compiling it?
Sure, if you like to waste time by duplicating efforts of others :-)
The GNU stuff that will compile is, by and large, already compiled.
The GNU stuff that won't, isn't.
http://www.peak.org/next/ aka ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next and checkout
the apps/unix/ directory.
TjL
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: voice recognition
Date: 3 Dec 1998 07:23:35 -0800
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SimonSays will do this.
Emmett
>Are there any simple voice recognition programs for the NeXT?
>(I'm running NS3.2 on black hardware.) It would be fun to have
>some voice activated commands. For example, rather than typing
>"ppp" in the shell, it would be fun to have ppp activated by a
>voice command.
>
From: ntakebay@guar.bio.indiana.edu (Naoki Takebayashi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: newer Emacs compilation
Date: 3 Dec 1998 21:42:53 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Message-ID: <slrn76e1et.47r.ntakebay@guar.bio.indiana.edu>
I was trying to compile emacs-20.3 on OpenStep 4.2/mach, m68k and I got a weird
error,
cc -c -Demacs -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/disk0b/home/ntakebay/dev/port/emacs-20
.3/src -g -O /disk0b/home/ntakebay/dev/port/emacs-20.3/src/syntax.c
cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1obj got fatal signal 11
Does anybody know what does this mean?? I was using cc from OS4.2/Dev.
Has anyone successfully compiled for OS4.2-black? I looked around in dejanews,
but I couldn't find any info about porting ver 20.3.
Thank you,
Naoki
Naoki Takebayashi
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From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
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Subject: Re: Summer '92 NeXTWORLD SimonSays review
Date: 3 Dec 1998 21:42:07 GMT
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In <rxL82.117$QB3.2677929@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
> -> Way cool Scott!
> >
> > Do you think they would mind if I scanned/jpegged the magazines and dropped
> > them all on line? (Complete and intact)
> >
> > I had been considering hitting a friend who works at a printer shop this
> weekend
> > and trying to get them done in one shot. (Though it's a big job) But I
> don't want
> > to waste my time if I will just have to remove them later.
>
> I was thinking how nice it would be if someone made .pdf versions of all the
> issues. I would add them to all the other NeXT lit accessible on my site,
> as I'm sure others would. If anyone has the time and the means to do this,
> please let us know.
>
What site?
Randy Rencsok
rencsok or spammers at
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From: Alberto Ortega Socorro <alorso@bbvnet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Graphical debuggers
Date: 3 Dec 1998 23:00:56 GMT
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Could somebody recommend me a good graphical debugging application for
OPENSTEP 4.1 for Mach?
I need it urgently.
Thanks,
Alberto Ortega Socorro
From: josborn@depauw.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftWare Questions
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 00:20:18 GMT
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I am looking to either
a: Get some of my dos/win3.1 stuff to run on my NeXT or
b: Find WordPerfect and Mathematica for the NeXT.
There are acceptable substitutes for all my other PC software but I get really
crunched not having those two.
I do not want to spend $1,500 for Mathematica 3.x right now.
Any Ideas?
Respond to josborn@depauw.edu or jay@saratoga.depauw.edu
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In <7479s0$tl7$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> josborn@depauw.edu wrote:
> I am looking to either
> a: Get some of my dos/win3.1 stuff to run on my NeXT or
You could try SoftPC if you can get a license somewhere
> b: Find WordPerfect and Mathematica for the NeXT.
WP shouldn't be too hard to find (the WP version is ~ 5.1 for DOS)
Mathematica? Good luck. I doubt anyone who has it will sell it.... (wasn't
it tied to the hostid anyway? not that there aren't ways around it)
TjL
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From: Jan Richling <richling@informatik.hu-berlin.de>
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Subject: Re: [Q] how to open a command window?
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:05:57 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Berlin, Deutschland
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research <research@proton.vlsi.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> I happened to have to administrate a couple of NextStep machines,
> but I don't have any experience with them.
> I have pretty much expreiences in administrating Unix machines like
> Sun/Solaris/Linux/HP-UX.
> I heard that OS of NextStep is Unix-like.
> Then my first question is
> (1) how to open a command window like in
> any Unix environment?
Just start the Terminal.app in NextApps.
Or: telnet to the machine.
> Everything in the window looks clickable,
> but I don't like those clickable icons. Rather,
> I like to control it.
> If it is really Unix-like, can I install any gnu-programs
> after compiling it?
Nearly everything. NeXT is Mach-based - once you have the terminal-window,
you will see: It is really Unix :-))))
Jan
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From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton)
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In <7470jf$kf5$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
wrote:
> In <rxL82.117$QB3.2677929@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
-> > I was thinking how nice it would be if someone made .pdf versions of all
the
> > issues. I would add them to all the other NeXT lit accessible on my
site,
> > as I'm sure others would. If anyone has the time and the means to do
this,
> > please let us know.
http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org is the home of my NeXT and Window Maker
sites. Hopefully someone will keep monolith's free domain project alive
(They just announced they are closing shop), or I will have to register a
domain with internic.
From: nextstepcube@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Looking for Openstep 4.2 Trade?
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 05:33:54 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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Looking for openstep 4.2, if anyone has a copy for sale let me know, I would
like developer is possible, or I will trade some NT software copies for OS
copy. Thanks
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From: Jasper Wong <wongj@rpi.edu>
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Subject: NeXTStep/OpenStep with AMD K6-2?
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 23:59:07 -0500
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Does anyone know if NS3.3/OS4.2 is compatible with AMD K6-2 chip?
Thanks.
Jasper
wongj@rpi.edu
From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep/OpenStep with AMD K6-2?
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 11:34:05 +0100
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Jasper Wong wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if NS3.3/OS4.2 is compatible with AMD K6-2 chip?
> Thanks.
>
> Jasper
> wongj@rpi.edu
I'm running 4.1 on an AMD K6-2 for about three months now and it's rock
stable.
Go for it.
Marcel
From: laurentpignans@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: documentation for Improv ?
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 11:09:34 GMT
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Hello,
I'm looking for an User Guide (.ps, .pdf, .html) or model examples of Lotus
Improv 1.0. (for NS)
If you know a Web site containing this kind of documentation, please feel free
to send me the address.
thanks in advance
Laurent
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From: Asher Akhtar <akhtara@erols.com>
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Subject: Questions on the Operating System
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 08:05:35 -0500
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Hello,
I just received one of the orignal NeXT cubes. The system has the
MC68030 25MHZ processor. The cube is currently running the Mach 2.1 OS.
I have been reading alot of messages and coming accross OpenStep 4.x
and NeXTStep 3.x. Are these upgrades? Is OpenStep more current than
NeXTSTEP 3.x? If I was to upgrade which one do you recommend?
Before I decide to upgrade, Does anyone know if my Hardware has any Y2K
issues?
Thanks for any help or info!
Asher
From: spagiola@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftWare Questions
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 15:31:25 GMT
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josborn@depauw.edu wrote:
> I am looking to either
> a: Get some of my dos/win3.1 stuff to run on my NeXT or
The NS3.2 CD has a demo version of SoftPC on it. It'll only run for 20
minutes, as I recall, but if that's long enough to do what you need, then
you're set (20 minutes is the limit of my tolerance for working in DOS/W3.1,
personally).
> b: Find WordPerfect and Mathematica for the NeXT.
WP/NeXT is probably available from various sources. Try Deepspace
(http://www.deepspacetech.com/) or Spherical
(http://www.orb.com/NewIndex.html). If they don't list it, try e-mailing
them; I suspect they can track down a copy for you.
MMa will be more difficult. You'd have to find an unregistered copy, since
registration was tied to the CPU. They probably exist, there were lots of edu
copies made which were never registered. Finding them will not be easy,
though. Plus, will Wolfram even remember how to give you a reg code when you
call them?
Stefano Pagiola
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
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Subject: Re: Questions on the Operating System
Date: 4 Dec 1998 17:48:36 GMT
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Message-ID: <19981204124836.25373.00000915@ng56.aol.com>
OpenStep 4.2 is more recent than NS 3.3.
NS 3.3 does run slightly faster by all accounts here, while OS 4.2 has higher
memory requirements (has to load two copies of various shlibs, one for
nextstep, other for openstep).
There's an official Y2K patch for OpenStep 4.2 at Apple's web-site, and I think
ftp.peak.org has it available in a smaller zip format.
Similarly, ftp.peak.org has updated copies of Date and a few other utilities as
well as explanatory notes on the (very) minor problems black hardware has with
y2K.
Hope this helps!
William
BTW - are you in Virginia?
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: conrad@cgl.ucsf.edu (Conrad Huang %CGL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need help mapping device memory into IO task
Date: 4 Dec 98 20:53:34 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
Message-ID: <conrad.912804814@cgl.ucsf.edu>
We have been trying to implement a device driver for a PCI card
(specifically, an Industry Pack Carrier). The card maps some
device registers into PCI bus memory space. I'm trying to map
the PCI memory space into the kernel I/O task so that I can
manipulate the device.
Using DriverKit, I can call IOMapPhysicalIntoIOTask and successfully
get a virtual address for the physical address I get out of the
PCI configuration structure. However, when I try to move data
from the virtual address into a local variable, I invariably get
data with all bits set to 1 (suspiciously like PCI_DEFAULT_DATA
which is defined as 0xffffffff). Some LED indicators on the PCI
board also suggest that I am not actually talking to it.
Can someone enlighten me as to what I may be doing wrong? Thanks,
Conrad
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex
Subject: IHow to install CM ps type1 fonts for NeXT/teTeX/pdf
Date: 4 Dec 1998 19:53:38 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
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I'm trying to install the public domain type1 (.pfb) Computer Modern
fonts for use with teTeX 0.3 on NeXT 3.0, and so I can create good-quality,
portable PDF files with Adobe Distiller. But there are so many different
font formats and conversion utilities, and different documentation seems
to give conflicting instructions, that I'm somewhat mystified.
I obtained the Bluesky package from CTAN:/fonts/cm/ps-type1/bluesky
and copied the pfb directory to /usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/type1/public/cm.
What do I do to complete this? Can someone supply clear, detailed
instructions?
- Do I need to install the .afm fonts which came with the package?
- Where do I put the map file, psfonts.cm, say, and should it simply
list the font names:
cmb10
cmbsy10
cmbx10
or should it specify font embedding?
cmb10 </usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/type1/public/cm/cmb10.pfb
- Do I need to change any TeX environment variables?
e.g.,
TEXFONTS=:.:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm
- What else?
thanks,
-Michael
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From: Ben <mikego@geocities.com>
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Subject: HELP with SoftPC
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Hi,
I was just wondering what's the latest version of SoftPC for
OPENSTEP/NEXTSTEP and where can I download it. Is it still commercially
available and if it is where can I obtain it.
I've tried to install SoftPC 4.0 from cs.tu-berlin.de (16.3 MB as
tar.gz) on OPENSTEP 4.2 but it could not install, because it said:
"Permission denied...", but I was logged on as root.
The file from insignia.com and the mirror from insignia is 17 MB (as
tar), a bit larger. But the download was so slow that I didn't download
it. Is there a difference between the files from the two different
servers. Is there anybody who knows what I have to do, and perhaps where
I have to download another file?
Thanks for every tip, please send your answer if possible to my email
address: bgreiner@gmx.de
Greetings,
Benjamin
From: Berthold Horn <bkph@ai.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex,comp.fonts
Subject: Re: IHow to install CM ps type1 fonts for NeXT/teTeX/pdf
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 17:09:40 -0500
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Michael Friendly wrote:
> I'm trying to install the public domain type1 (.pfb) Computer Modern
The fonts are actually not public domain, although there are few restrictions on their use.
> fonts for use with teTeX 0.3 on NeXT 3.0, and so I can create good-quality,
> ...
>
> I obtained the Bluesky package from CTAN:/fonts/cm/ps-type1/bluesky
> and copied the pfb directory to /usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/type1/public/cm
Make that AMS/BSR/Y&Y fonts :-) See readme file in the package.
> What do I do to complete this? Can someone supply clear, detailed instructions?
If you are installing for DVIPS use that's about it. Just set up psfonts.map properly.
But on the NeXT you have the opportunity to actually do much better by installing
the fonts for Display PostScript (DPS) so TeXView and other applications can use them.
Unfortunately installing fonts for DPS on any platform is non-trivial.
For a start, you need the PFA and AFM form of the fonts for this.
You also need to create a separate directory for each font with the same name as the
PS FontName of the font This should contain the PFA and AFM files. The PFA file
should not have an extension. Then you need to actually tell DPS about the fonts.
It's a nit complicated and best done using an installation script. But well worth it.
You'll need to dig up the documentation on DPS on your NeXT computer.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IHow to install CM ps type1 fonts for NeXT/teTeX/pdf
Date: 5 Dec 1998 01:03:24 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
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A very kind soul has already created NeXT .pkg install files (with scripts
which do most if not all of what you describe) which are available at
ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/tex/fonts (path and capitalization approximate)
The AMS fonts are available as well.
Instead of Distiller you may want to consider Frank Siegert's wonderful
pStill.app <www.this.net/~frank>
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep/OpenStep with AMD K6-2?
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In-reply-to: Jasper Wong's message of Thu, 03 Dec 1998 23:59:07 -0500
Date: 4 Dec 98 09:22:33
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In article <36676C1A.7B0C670B@rpi.edu>,
Jasper Wong <wongj@rpi.edu> writes:
Does anyone know if NS3.3/OS4.2 is compatible with AMD K6-2 chip?
I have an original K6, and had no problems under NS or OS, and now
that system dual-boots Rhapsody with no problems. As further
evidence, the NeXT website (well, Apple, but I always go to next.com
to get there :-) indicates that NS/OS weren't tested on anything other
than the Pentium and PentiumPro, specifically naming AMD, Cyrix, and
the Pentium-II, but it only goes on to single out Cyrix as being a
particular problem.
Later,
--
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Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Jasper Wong <wongj@rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep/OpenStep with AMD K6-2?
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 23:18:54 -0500
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Thanks for the info, really appreciate it :)
Jasper
Scott Hess wrote:
>
> In article <36676C1A.7B0C670B@rpi.edu>,
> Jasper Wong <wongj@rpi.edu> writes:
> Does anyone know if NS3.3/OS4.2 is compatible with AMD K6-2 chip?
>
> I have an original K6, and had no problems under NS or OS, and now
> that system dual-boots Rhapsody with no problems. As further
> evidence, the NeXT website (well, Apple, but I always go to next.com
> to get there :-) indicates that NS/OS weren't tested on anything other
> than the Pentium and PentiumPro, specifically naming AMD, Cyrix, and
> the Pentium-II, but it only goes on to single out Cyrix as being a
> particular problem.
>
> Later,
> --
> scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/
> <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots
> Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
> I'm running 4.1 on an AMD K6-2 for about three months now and it's rock
> stable.
>
> Go for it.
>
> Marcel
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From: George White <aa056@chebucto.ns.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: IHow to install CM ps type1 fonts for NeXT/teTeX/pdf
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 15:00:00 -0400
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To: Michael Friendly <friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca>
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I've installed the AMS/BSR/Y&Y Type 1 fonts on NeXT 3.0. Tetex 0.9
already has essentially everything you need, both for dvips and for DPS,
but three of the .afm files (CMTEX10.afm, CMTEX8.afm, and CMTEX9.afm) were
corrupt. I reported this to BSR (who appear to be responsible for the
.afm files), but in the interim I made replacements using ghostscript and
some editing. The original files gave errors when the NeXT buildafmdir
utility ran.
I have had good results creating pdf files on NeXT 3.0 systems using
teTeX 0.9 -- you should consider building a more recent teTeX.
Here is a summary of the installation:
On NeXTStep, fonts are installed in .pfa format in directories of the
form: fontname.font containing fontname and fontname.afm files.
TeTeX-0.9 provides .pfb and .afm files:
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/fonts/afm/bluesky/cm/*.afm
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/fonts/afm/bluesky/ams/*.afm
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/*.pfb
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/ams/*.pfb
Since the font names are uppercase, it is ncessary to change
the file names (this _does_ have the dubious advantage that
you can have both cmr10 (BaKoMa) and CMR10 (AMS/BSR/Y&Y) for
users who prefer the heavier appearance of the BaKoMa fonts).
Script (using pdksh installed as /bin/ksh) to install Bluesky fonts from
teTeX:
#! /bin/ksh
cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/fonts
for i in type1/bluesky/cm/*.pfb ; do
font=${i##type1/bluesky/cm/}
afm=afm/bluesky/cm/${font%.pfb}.afm
NAME=$(print ${font%%.pfb} |tr [a-z] [A-Z])
mkdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts/$NAME.font && \
pfb2pfa $i /LocalLibrary/Fonts/$NAME.font/$NAME && \
cp -p $afm /LocalLibrary/Fonts/$NAME.font/$NAME.afm
done
for i in type1/bluesky/ams/*.pfb ; do
font=${i##type1/bluesky/ams/}
afm=afm/bluesky/ams/${font%.pfb}.afm
NAME=$(print ${font%%.pfb} |tr [a-z] [A-Z])
mkdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts/$NAME.font && \
pfb2pfa $i /LocalLibrary/Fonts/$NAME.font/$NAME && \
cp -p $afm /LocalLibrary/Fonts/$NAME.font/$NAME.afm
done
NeXT will run the buildafmdir utility to update the cache when an
App that has a font panel is opened (e.g., edit). Three .afm files
were incorrect:
parse error 10000011 (0x80,0x21) reading CMTEX10.afm
parse error 10000011 (0x80,0x21) reading CMTEX8.afm
parse error 10000011 (0x80,0x21) reading CMTEX9.afm
I created new .afm files using:
gs -sDEVICE=nullpage -- pf2afm.ps font_name
These still had problems, but I was able to edit the new .afm files
to make them acceptable to buildafmdir and can at least see the fonts
in apps (including texView.app). The .afm files in teTeX are straight
off CTAN, so I sent mail to BSR, but have not followed up to see if
better versions have appeared.
--
George White <aa056@chebucto.ns.ca> Halifax, Nova Scotia
On 4 Dec 1998, Michael Friendly wrote:
> I'm trying to install the public domain type1 (.pfb) Computer Modern
> fonts for use with teTeX 0.3 on NeXT 3.0, and so I can create good-quality,
> portable PDF files with Adobe Distiller. But there are so many different
> font formats and conversion utilities, and different documentation seems
> to give conflicting instructions, that I'm somewhat mystified.
>
> I obtained the Bluesky package from CTAN:/fonts/cm/ps-type1/bluesky
> and copied the pfb directory to /usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/type1/public/cm.
>
> What do I do to complete this? Can someone supply clear, detailed
> instructions?
> - Do I need to install the .afm fonts which came with the package?
> - Where do I put the map file, psfonts.cm, say, and should it simply
> list the font names:
> cmb10
> cmbsy10
> cmbx10
> or should it specify font embedding?
> cmb10 </usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/type1/public/cm/cmb10.pfb
>
> - Do I need to change any TeX environment variables?
> e.g.,
> TEXFONTS=:.:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm
> - What else?
>
> thanks,
> -Michael
>
> --
> Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@yorku.ca (NeXTmail OK)
> Psychology Dept
> York University Voice: 416 736-5115 Fax: 416 736-5814
> 4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html
> Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
>
>
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Subject: Re: Graphical debuggers
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 18:02:33 -0500
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I must of seen, you post this message a million times. Please stop.
There isn't a good graphical debugger avail. for NS3.x or OS4.2.
Use gdb command line. It just as good. Practice and learn.
SuperDubbger3.9 (Impact Software has been out of sight for couple of year
now). So stop asking about Super Dubbger. Learn to use gdb, it's not that
hard. Sorry dude, but your just going to have to live without an GUI
debugger until one becomes avail. with MacOS X a.k.a Rhapsody. Maybe, we
will get lucky and an OS4.2 compile will also be made. You might want to
investigate, using an X windows debugger. Try downloading DDD debugger,
compile it and run it on Xnext. That might work, but I doubt it.
Jay Lee
echo4@NOSPAM.erols.com
NeXT, SUN, MIME Mail OK!
Alberto Ortega Socorro wrote in message <747578$cou3@esiami.tsai.es>...
>Could somebody recommend me a good graphical debugging application for
>OPENSTEP 4.1 for Mach?
>
>I need it urgently.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Alberto Ortega Socorro
>
From: Louis Vosloo <support@YandY.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: IHow to install CM ps type1 fonts for NeXT/teTeX/pdf
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George White wrote:
> I've installed the AMS/BSR/Y?Y Type 1 fonts on NeXT 3.0. Tetex 0.9
> already has essentially everything you need, both for dvips and for DPS,
> but three of the .afm files (CMTEX10.afm, CMTEX8.afm, and CMTEX9.afm) were
> corrupt. I reported this to BSR (who appear to be responsible for the
> .afm files), but in the interim I made replacements using ghostscript and
> some editing. The original files gave errors when the NeXT buildafmdir
> utility ran.
Should have reported it to us :-) As you noted, the three AFM files for
CMTEX* are truncated on CTAN (and at the AMS, where they are mirrored from).
I have no idea where this might have happened. Possibly when the copyright
strings were changed in the files. Anyway, you can find the original AFM
files on http://www.YandY.com/download/cmtex10.afm, cmtex9.afm and cmtex8.afm.
> I have had good results creating pdf files on NeXT 3.0 systems using
> teTeX 0.9 -- you should consider building a more recent teTeX.
> ...script for installing, renaming, creating directories etc.
The Unix/NeXT versions of the fonts come with just such a script developed
by Dr. Tom Marchiori when obtained from us :-)
> NeXT will run the buildafmdir utility to update the cache when an
> App that has a font panel is opened (e.g., edit). Three .afm files
> were incorrect:
> parse error 10000011 (0x80,0x21) reading CMTEX10.afm
> parse error 10000011 (0x80,0x21) reading CMTEX8.afm
> parse error 10000011 (0x80,0x21) reading CMTEX9.af
buildafmdir is incredibly pedantic and complains (in a rather unreadable way)
about quite benign variations in PFA or AFM format. But in this case the
AFM files were really broken (It is saying that it expected char metrics for
128 characters and saw only 33).
> I created new .afm files using:
... may as well download the real thing from our web site ...
--
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Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
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COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
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Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
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crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
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Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
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to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
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Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
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Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
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Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
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Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
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From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: configuring DNS servers and IRC?
Date: 7 Dec 1998 15:56:45 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <74gtrt$jpl$2@news.spacelab.net>
References: <366B6AF5.60A2DE42@chorus.net>
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Robert <reckdale@chorus.net> wrote:
>I am need information on how to conigure an openstep 4.2 machine to use
>a DNS server.
Create an /etc/resolv.conf file, just like you would on any other Unix
system.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away.
----------------+-------------------+----------------------------
You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: jon@endeavour.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CD Writing Software
Date: 7 Dec 1998 17:13:33 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <74h2bt$g57@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Anybody know of any good software for writing CDs under OS4.2? I've been
trying for some weeks to get a license from Gehle for CDDesigner.app, but
without much luck.
Shareware, commercial, I don't much care.
Thanks - Jon
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From: josborn@depauw.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: nntp server
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 18:17:47 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <74h647$uuk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Is there a public nntp server out there in the world that I can use news
grazer with; dejanews is driving me crazy.
Jon
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From: me <"myse;lf "@aol.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: decompressed files
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 12:55:35 -0800
Organization: California State Polytechnic University Pomona
Message-ID: <366C40C7.E1C252D@aol.com>
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hey people, where do all the decomressed files go? it tells me that they
go into a defaull directory, but i can't find it anywhere except for the
shell terminal, ecven then the file's not there. what's the friggn deal?
thanks, brandon
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: nntp server
Date: 7 Dec 1998 21:30:24 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <74hhdg$kt6$1@news.spacelab.net>
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josborn@depauw.edu wrote:
> Is there a public nntp server out there in the world that I can use news
> grazer with; dejanews is driving me crazy.
Sure-- there's always another clueless news admin bringing up an open news
server. The length of time they stay open is inversely proportional to how
well known that server becomes.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away.
----------------+-------------------+----------------------------
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From: Robert <reckdale@chorus.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: configuring DNS servers and IRC?
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 23:43:18 -0600
Organization: IntraNet Inc: Madison, Wisconsin's ISP
Message-ID: <366B6AF5.60A2DE42@chorus.net>
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I am need information on how to conigure an openstep 4.2 machine to use
a DNS server. I have the machine on a small netowork that uses a router
to connect the network to the outside world. I of course need the NeXT
machine to be able to contact my DNS server. Any ideas? I am also in
need of a decent irc client, haven't found one yet?
Sincerely,
Robert
reckdale@chorus.net
From: "John T. Folden" <jtfolden@erinet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CD Writing Software
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:36:25 -0500
Organization: Erinet Online Communications
Message-ID: <74hskd$jh4$1@news.erinet.com>
References: <74h2bt$g57@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Dec 1998 00:41:49 GMT
Jon Haveman wrote in message <74h2bt$g57@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>...
>Anybody know of any good software for writing CDs under OS4.2? I've been
>trying for some weeks to get a license from Gehle for CDDesigner.app, but
>without much luck.
>
>Shareware, commercial, I don't much care.
I'd be interested in this info, as well!
John
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: decompressed files
Organization: would be nice
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References: <366C40C7.E1C252D@aol.com>
Message-ID: <MM_a2.233$o44.630613@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 00:54:04 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 19:54:04 EDT
Brandon
To increase your chances in getting a response, there are certain things
that you might want to consider
a) Use capitalization. It makes your message easier to read.
b) Include your real address somewhere. It doesn't have to be in the
headers, but it should be somewhere.
c) be a bit more descriptive in your problem (see below)
d) spell-check... yeah it's Usenet I know, but your message reflects on
you... if you can't take a minute to make your post readable, why should
someone else read it?
In <366C40C7.E1C252D@aol.com> me wrote:
> hey people, where do all the decomressed files go?
What decompressed files?
What extension do they have? (.Z ? .gz? .zip?)
What program are you using to decompress them?
What version of NeXTStep are you using?
> it tells me that they go into a defaull directory,
What tells you that they go to a default directory?
Does it tell you what that directory is?
What application is this?
What is the exact message you get?
> but i can't find it anywhere except for the shell terminal, ecven then the
> file's not there. what's the friggn deal?
I've been at this for years, and I have no idea how to help you without the
information I've mentioned above.
TjL
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From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: nntp server
Organization: would be nice
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References: <74h647$uuk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Message-ID: <JR_a2.237$o44.630613@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 00:59:21 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 19:59:21 EDT
In <74h647$uuk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> josborn@depauw.edu wrote:
> Is there a public nntp server out there in the world that I can use news
> grazer with; dejanews is driving me crazy.
There are.
There are lists of them around... I can't seem to find the email I had
describing them... but a search engine on 'open nntp server' might help
Most of them are terribly slow, however.
TjL
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From: ian@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:08:49 -0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <19981208010731.ian@nyro.com>
Subject: Help - PS Type 1 Fonts to Windows
Organization: NYRO Technix - Makers of NYRO-SPACE and NYRO MIND.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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How can I move my NEXTSTEP PS type 1 fonts
to Windows/ Windows with ATM?
Thanks,
ian
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Graphical debuggers
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 18:00:30 +0100
Organization: Lavielle
Message-ID: <366C09AE.BE21CAF3@lavielle.com>
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Alberto Ortega Socorro wrote:
> Could somebody recommend me a good graphical debugging application for
> OPENSTEP 4.1 for Mach?
>
> I need it urgently.
>
Under NS 3.3 there was some debugging support through Edit.app (also directly
accessable via ProjectBuilder).
AFAIK, there is some freely available PB modul addon on the NeXT related
servers, which resembles this for OS. - Some time ago there was
SupperDebugger3.9 from Impact Software available, which seems to be the closest
upto what you are searching. The bad news is, they seem to be out of business
now, so you have to find some kind NeXT user who might provide you with the
informations how to enable this software (which isn't very difficult at all).
You can find SuperDebugger3.9 demos on some ftp servers.
However, you might try to force yourself to use gdb via a terminal, or through
the Emacs-Interface, both of these ways are often much more powerfull than using
a graphical frontend.
Hope this helps somehow?
--
Valentino Kyriakides
mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com
From: rpvoland@facstaff.wisc.edu (Rick Voland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP with SoftPC
Date: 8 Dec 1998 05:20:01 GMT
Organization: UW-Madison
Message-ID: <74icu1$o30$1@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <36683D5A.B8F81A82@geocities.com>
I've installed SoftPC 4.0 in demo mode using the files from ftp.insignia.com.
I had to open SoftPC.pkg as a folder and change the permissions on one file
that looks like a text file. It needs to be able to execute. I'm sorry to be
vague, but I don't have Internet access yet from Openstep and I would have to
reboot to check the details and then reboot again to send this message.
After you change the permissions it should install fine in Demo mode.
Unfortunately, you need a license string to get more than 30 days. I tried
two different groups at Insignia (sales and UNIX support). They were a bit
unpleasant at asking how I got the file. They claimed the product had been
discontinued for three years and were not interested in selling me a license
string. (The latest press release is only three years old).
When I tried to install the SoftPC 4.1 update, I again had to put the update
file inside SoftPC.app and change the permissions to get the file to execute.
Then, I got an error that the license was out of date.
Is there anyone at Insignia that is interested in selling the license string
for SoftPC 4.0 and SoftPC 4.1?
Rick Voland
rpvoland@facstaff.wisc.edu
In article <36683D5A.B8F81A82@geocities.com>, mikego@geocities.com says...
>
>Hi,
>
>I was just wondering what's the latest version of SoftPC for
>OPENSTEP/NEXTSTEP and where can I download it. Is it still commercially
>available and if it is where can I obtain it.
>
>I've tried to install SoftPC 4.0 from cs.tu-berlin.de (16.3 MB as
>tar.gz) on OPENSTEP 4.2 but it could not install, because it said:
>"Permission denied...", but I was logged on as root.
>The file from insignia.com and the mirror from insignia is 17 MB (as
>tar), a bit larger. But the download was so slow that I didn't download
>it. Is there a difference between the files from the two different
>servers. Is there anybody who knows what I have to do, and perhaps where
>I have to download another file?
>
>Thanks for every tip, please send your answer if possible to my email
>address: bgreiner@gmx.de
>
>Greetings,
>Benjamin
>
From: daj@nwu.edu (David A.Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftWare Questions
Date: 8 Dec 1998 04:58:17 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Message-ID: <74ibl9$sca@news.acns.nwu.edu>
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Cc: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion
In <UcI92.195$QQ3.270983@newshog.newsread.com> TjL wrote:
> NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
>
> In <7479s0$tl7$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> josborn@depauw.edu wrote:
> > I am looking to either
> > a: Get some of my dos/win3.1 stuff to run on my NeXT or
>
> You could try SoftPC if you can get a license somewhere
>
>
> > b: Find WordPerfect and Mathematica for the NeXT.
>
> WP shouldn't be too hard to find (the WP version is ~ 5.1 for DOS)
>
> Mathematica? Good luck. I doubt anyone who has it will sell it....
(wasn't
> it tied to the hostid anyway? not that there aren't ways around it)
>
> TjL
>
>
Mathematica is tied to the Ethernet address. If you change ethernet cards
you need to re-registar it. To get it working on Intel hardware you can
purchase it, license it and use it without an ethernet card. The black
hardware all had fixed ethernet cards, at one time Mathematica was shipped
with all black hardware (I know at least NeXTStep V0.9 was). There might be
a slim chance you already have it if you have black hardware but you'll need
the license code for that particular piece of hardware.
Regarding DOS programs, Insignia wrote SoftPC, their last release was V4.1.
In its day it was ok but nothing to get excited about.
I can't imagine any kind of general use program that already doesn't exist
for Nextstep/Openstep or wouldn't be to difficult to write (witha little
investment in learning) yourself. OpenWrite is available on Peak and can
open and write early versions of Word and WordPerfect files. For
spreadsheets, Parasheet and Mesa3 (Mesa3 as a demo) are available (via Peak
also) . Its a dynamite spreadsheet.
Good Luck!
--
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email: daj@nwu.edu
Manager Computer Facility and Engineering Phone: (312) 503-0408
Feinberg Research Institute, Fax:
(312) 503-0137
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From: rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: configuring DNS servers and IRC?
Date: 8 Dec 1998 05:40:18 GMT
Organization: .crackheads.with.real.computers.but.no.real.jobs.
Message-ID: <74ie42$gvi$1@eve.enteract.com>
References: <366B6AF5.60A2DE42@chorus.net>
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do you want a text mode irc client or GUI? IRC.app and Encircle.app are
worthless. Circe.app is wonderfull but I am not sure if I am allowed to tell
anyone more. There is an app called JediKnight I think, but IIRC it is
alpha-ish. OH yea, there is a a rhapsody one wiith a name like stepirc.app
but I heard it was useless. There is at least one other GUI irc app but I
dont know the name. Anyway, I have talked to people that have compiled shell
clients other than ircII / epic that are not BitchX.
In <366B6AF5.60A2DE42@chorus.net> Robert wrote:
[>] I am need information on how to conigure an openstep 4.2 machine to use
[>] a DNS server. I have the machine on a small netowork that uses a router
[>] to connect the network to the outside world. I of course need the NeXT
[>] machine to be able to contact my DNS server. Any ideas? I am also in
[>] need of a decent irc client, haven't found one yet?
[>]
[>] Sincerely,
[>]
[>] Robert
[>] reckdale@chorus.net
[>]
[>]
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From: brent allen clothier <bclothie@students.uiuc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Openstep 4.2 (Mach) Installation Problem
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 02:02:44 -0600
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981208011902.17096A-100000@ux9.cso.uiuc.edu>
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When running the included installation disks, Openstep (Mach) 4.2
misidentifies my hard drive as having approximately 8 GB of space. In
actuality, my hard drive size is 10.0 GB (Maxtor 91000D8). I know that
Windows 95 OSR2, 98, and NT support hard drives larger than 8 GB using
EBIOS (Enhanced disk services). Can Openstep support drives larger than 8
GB? Is this a current limitation of Openstep? I am afraid to proceed
with the installation since I have multiple partitions one of which holds
my Windows operating system. I do not wish Openstep to overwrite those
partitions or install an incorrect Master Boot Record. Unfortunately, I
cannot find anything about this on NextAnswers. Any help is appreciated.
Brent
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help - PS Type 1 Fonts to Windows
Date: 8 Dec 1998 12:57:21 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <19981208010731.ian@nyro.com>
Message-ID: <19981208075721.24784.00002024@ng54.aol.com>
You need to convert the fonts from ASCII to the binary format (.pfb) used under
Windows and create a .pfm (best done with a .afm/.inf pair).
There're tools for this in various places, the T1 tools for example--I've also
got an example program which I picked up a long while ago at home which does
this.
Let me know by e-mail if you can't find anything and I'll put the program and
source on my web site (I'd be interested in getting it running under
NeXT/OPENstep with a pretty front end).
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
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From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openstep 4.2 (Mach) Installation Problem
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Message-ID: <ecbb2.567$L52.181@news.rdc1.ne.home.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 15:02:34 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 07:02:34 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
BSD 4.3 only supports partition sizes <= 2 gigs. You must install Openstep
within the first 2 gigs of the drive you are installing to. BSD 4.4 does not
have this limitation, so when Mac OS X Server is available it won't have this
problem.
In <Pine.SOL.3.96.981208011902.17096A-100000@ux9.cso.uiuc.edu> brent allen
clothier wrote:
>
> When running the included installation disks, Openstep (Mach) 4.2
> misidentifies my hard drive as having approximately 8 GB of space. In
> actuality, my hard drive size is 10.0 GB (Maxtor 91000D8). I know that
> Windows 95 OSR2, 98, and NT support hard drives larger than 8 GB using
> EBIOS (Enhanced disk services). Can Openstep support drives larger than 8
> GB? Is this a current limitation of Openstep? I am afraid to proceed
> with the installation since I have multiple partitions one of which holds
> my Windows operating system. I do not wish Openstep to overwrite those
> partitions or install an incorrect Master Boot Record. Unfortunately, I
> cannot find anything about this on NextAnswers. Any help is appreciated.
>
> Brent
>
>
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From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: irc clients
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doh, mlankton@nospam.home.com
In <ubcb2.570$L52.174@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
> Anyone have an intel binary or a working Makefile for either Epic4 or
BitchX
> they can point me to, or send me? I have had no luck getting either to
> compile.
> Also, someone mentioned Circe.app, I have never seen this, where can it be
> had?
> Thanks in advance.
>
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:02:46 +0100
From: Support <support@gnorf.gk-biochem.uni-konstanz.de>
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JWL wrote:
>
> I must of seen, you post this message a million times. Please stop.
>
> There isn't a good graphical debugger avail. for NS3.x or OS4.2.
> Use gdb command line. It just as good. Practice and learn.
There is one...
check
http://www.aaa-plus.com/joy/download.html
fore more info
greetings,
ernie
From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton)
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Anyone have an intel binary or a working Makefile for either Epic4 or BitchX
they can point me to, or send me? I have had no luck getting either to
compile.
Also, someone mentioned Circe.app, I have never seen this, where can it be
had?
Thanks in advance.
From: beigel@oscar.eecs.uic.edu (Richard Beigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: alternative to peanuts.leo.org?
Date: 7 Dec 1998 02:45:58 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, Dept. of EE&CS, 851 S Morgan St, Chicago IL 60607-7053
Message-ID: <74ffh6$nr6$1@piglet.cc.uic.edu>
Is there an alternative to peanuts.leo.org, for times when peanuts
is down or overloaded?
From: dannyyu@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Connecting NeXTstation Color to NT network
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:59:34 GMT
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To: dannyyu@hotmail.com
I have a NT network with NTS4 running MS Proxy 2.
I would like to know if there is an existing client or driver out there
that allows me to connect my NeXTstation to the network and use the Proxy
service on my NT Server.
I run DHCP from NTS4. Is it possible to set it up so that it will acquire an
IP address from my NTS4 ?
Help is appreciated.
Danny Yu
Vancouver, Canada
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From: no@spam.please
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Subject: Re: CD Writing Software
Date: 8 Dec 1998 20:15:37 GMT
Organization: land of strange wizards
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In <74hskd$jh4$1@news.erinet.com> "John T. Folden" wrote:
>
> Jon Haveman wrote in message <74h2bt$g57@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>...
> >Anybody know of any good software for writing CDs under OS4.2? I've been
> >trying for some weeks to get a license from Gehle for CDDesigner.app, but
> >without much luck.
> >
> >Shareware, commercial, I don't much care.
>
> I'd be interested in this info, as well!
You should be able to get AerePerennius from http://www.peanuts.org
However to build ISO Images you need mkisofs also on the archives.
For older CD-Writers (Yamaha CDR-100/102, HP, Phillips...) my CDR Survival
Package as available on www.this.net/~frank might help...
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Subject: Re: IHow to install CM ps type1 fonts for NeXT/teTeX/pdf
Date: 8 Dec 1998 20:22:55 GMT
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In <749ek2$b7q$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Michael Friendly wrote:
> I'm trying to install the public domain type1 (.pfb) Computer Modern
> fonts for use with teTeX 0.3 on NeXT 3.0, and so I can create good-quality,
> portable PDF files with Adobe Distiller. But there are so many different
> font formats and conversion utilities, and different documentation seems
> to give conflicting instructions, that I'm somewhat mystified.
>
> I obtained the Bluesky package from CTAN:/fonts/cm/ps-type1/bluesky
> and copied the pfb directory to
/usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/type1/public/cm.
>
> What do I do to complete this? Can someone supply clear, detailed
> instructions?
For just converting Type 1, Type 3 and TrueType fonts for use on the NS side
you can try my FontConvert.app program as available free on
http://www.this.net/~frank/download.html, it usually does a good job and can
calculate afms on the fly (and remap fonts to StandardEncoding, etc...)
For PS to PDF conversion I suggest my PStill.app shareware converter , you
can try it out - the package is available from
http://www.this.net/~frank/pstill.html - be sure to fetch the newest 1.10u
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From: Djani <d.burazerovic@stud.tue.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help: (How) can I recover damaged sectors of a HD?
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:16:47 +0100
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1. Can one recover damaged sectors of a hard-disk by software means, and
if so
how? (It's a 486DX-2 66Mhz computer, having DOS+Windows 3.1
operating sys.)
The damage occured as a result of a wrong conection of a CD-ROM
drive,
(Don't ask how it happened :-)) which probably caused power supply
failure.
2. Can the damaged sectors affect the good working remainder of the
hard-disk ?
Many thanks in advance/Les agradezco de antemano
Djani
From: sumit@omni.cc.purdue.edu (Sumitrajit Dhar)
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Subject: OmniWeb3
Date: 8 Dec 1998 16:09:28 -0500
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Does anyone know whether OmniWeb3 works on NS3.3 or is it solely for
OS4.2? The information on the web site seems to suggest it is for OS4.2
only.
Thanks,
Sumit
From: Ryan Scott <scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu>
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Subject: Re: mail autoreply
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In <74ka3b$1imu$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu> Robert Singleton wrote:
> I'm running NS3.2 on black hardware. The elm FAQ just informed me
> that autoreply does not work in elm (I have version 2.4 PL23),
> and that another utility must be used. I'm going on vacation next
> week, and I would really like to get an autoreply utility up and
> running. Thanks very much for any suggestions.
>
Use the vacation program. Details in the man pages ( man vacation ).
After initializing the vacation program and files you create a message
file and modify your .forward to process incoming mail through vacation.
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From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
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In <74ffh6$nr6$1@piglet.cc.uic.edu> Richard Beigel wrote:
> Is there an alternative to peanuts.leo.org, for times when peanuts
> is down or overloaded?
Well for starters you should now be using
www.peanuts.org
ftp.peanuts.org
when you login to ftp.peanuts.org it should list mirror sites.
TjL
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In <ubcb2.570$L52.174@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
> Also, someone mentioned Circe.app, I have never seen this, where can it be
> had?
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/irc/Encircle.0.11.NIHS.b.tar.
gz
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Umm, thanks and everything. but I asked for Circe, not Encircle. Someone in
this group mentioned it yesterday. I agree with same, IRC and Encircle are
totally unusable. Still waiting to hear from anyone that has intel bin for
either BitchX or Epic.
In <85kb2.635$o44.1450658@newshog.newsread.com> TjL wrote:
> In <ubcb2.570$L52.174@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
>
> > Also, someone mentioned Circe.app, I have never seen this, where can it
be
> > had?
>
>
>
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/irc/Encircle.0.11.NIHS.b.tar.
> gz
>
> TjL-
From: "Rex Dieter" <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
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Subject: Re: Openstep 4.2 (Mach) Installation Problem
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:05:22 -0600
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Michael Lankton wrote in message ...
>BSD 4.3 only supports partition sizes <= 2 gigs. You must install Openstep
>within the first 2 gigs of the drive you are installing to. BSD 4.4 does
not
>have this limitation, so when Mac OS X Server is available it won't have
this
>problem.
I believe the EIDE driver does only support up to 8.4G B disks. Who knows
with larger than that. You could take the optimistic approach and just hope
that NEXTSTEP/OpenStep could care less what is beyond that 8.4GB mark, and
function happily below it.
What Michael said is also true, the OpenStep partition must be in the first
2GB, is limited to be <= that.
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>In <Pine.SOL.3.96.981208011902.17096A-100000@ux9.cso.uiuc.edu> brent allen
>clothier wrote:
>>
>> When running the included installation disks, Openstep (Mach) 4.2
>> misidentifies my hard drive as having approximately 8 GB of space. In
>> actuality, my hard drive size is 10.0 GB (Maxtor 91000D8). I know that
>> Windows 95 OSR2, 98, and NT support hard drives larger than 8 GB using
>> EBIOS (Enhanced disk services). Can Openstep support drives larger than
8
>> GB? Is this a current limitation of Openstep? I am afraid to proceed
>> with the installation since I have multiple partitions one of which holds
>> my Windows operating system. I do not wish Openstep to overwrite those
>> partitions or install an incorrect Master Boot Record. Unfortunately, I
>> cannot find anything about this on NextAnswers. Any help is appreciated.
From: bobs@terrapin.phys.washington.edu (Robert Singleton)
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I'm running NS3.2 on black hardware. The elm FAQ just informed me
that autoreply does not work in elm (I have version 2.4 PL23),
and that another utility must be used. I'm going on vacation next
week, and I would really like to get an autoreply utility up and
running. Thanks very much for any suggestions.
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In <rckb2.585$L52.192@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
> Umm, thanks and everything. but I asked for Circe, not Encircle. Someone
in
> this group mentioned it yesterday.
Hrm... never heard of it
> IRC and Encircle are totally unusable.
Yeah I didn't like it for the 5 minutes I bothered using IRC.
> Still waiting to hear from anyone that has intel bin for either BitchX or
Epic.
BitchX crashed fast & hard when I tried to compile it.
Does it require X?
If so, you're in trouble more-than-likely
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Thanks, I'm downloading it now!
In <74kl3f$8v9$1@winter.news.rcn.net> echo4@NOSPAM.erols.com --delete NOSPAM
wrote:-> Most of you guys aren't familiar with this irc clients, but it out
there.
> IRCstep.app. Here is the site, where you guys can get it.
> http://www.etl.go.jp/~kfujiwar/next/ircstep/download_j.html, the site in
> japanese, but he does
> have an English version, plus the source code. -
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In <W7nb2.755$o44.1585125@newshog.newsread.com> TjL wrote:-> BitchX crashed
fast & hard when I tried to compile it.
>
> Does it require X?
nope
I spoke with the maintainer of Epic, and he wasn't able to help after giving
me a couple of ideas. Maintaining NeXT compatibility was too much work, and
I was the first person in two years to ask about it. Something about NeXT
not being posix compliant and something about ansi c, but while I've been
using various unices long enough to massage bins out of difficult compiles,
I'm no Openstep guru, and I just can't get BitchX or Epic to compile. I like
ircii, but bx and epic are nicer. If anyone has an intel bin for either.....
:)
Thanks for responding anyway.
From: chevell@my-dejanews.com
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Hi, I am looking for Openstep 4.2 or NeXTstep 3.3 CD's for NeXT color and
NeXT B&W turbo stations. I will even settle for a developer's NeXTstep 3.1
CD. I am in dire need of getting these machines usable, but without a
compiler these machines are pretty much useless. If anyone can help please
email me at chevell@home.com or reply to this poting. Thanks. --Chevell
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From: Marcel Volkerts <VOLKERTS@KVI.NL>
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Subject: Re: OmniWeb3
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TjL wrote:
>
> In <74k4i8$jqn@omni.cc.purdue.edu> Sumitrajit Dhar wrote:
> > Does anyone know whether OmniWeb3 works on NS3.3 or is it solely for
> > OS4.2? The information on the web site seems to suggest it is for OS4.2
> > only.
>
> 4.2 only.
>
> (actually I heard someone is using it under 4.1, but 3.3 will not work)
I tried to get it working under 4.1 but no luck so far. The problem is
that is does load pages but once it has finished loading it does not
display them. Anybody who got it working is welcome to share their
experiencies :)
Bye,
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
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Date: 9 Dec 98 10:06:35 GMT
Andrew Robertson <anjrober@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Are there any simple voice recognition programs for the NeXT?
>> (I'm running NS3.2 on black hardware.) It would be fun to have
>> some voice activated commands. For example, rather than typing
>> "ppp" in the shell, it would be fun to have ppp activated by a
>> voice command.
>>
>
>SimonSays. Although my experience with it was that is was a heck of a
>lot faster to hit Command-Q instead of saying "Shut down the
>Application" or whatever. It's not too impressive, IMHO.
But it is impressive when you say "Computer. Read this line." and the NeXT
responds with rsynth ... . At least my little cousin was very impressed :-)
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From: Michael_Humphries-Dolnick.nospam@wdr.com (Michael Humphries-Dolnick)
Subject: Re: NS 3.3: Using local soft PS fonts with the lpr command ??
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In article <743kt2$lrl$1@news.tudelft.nl> guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (Abraham
Guyt) writes:
> Hi,
>
> It is possible to print a postscript file that uses local soft postscipt
> fonts with the lpr command ? I use NS 3.3 but when I choose 'Print' in
> Edit.app and save the postscript file, and print this file with 'lpr',
the
> local fonts are ignored. 'Man lpr' says that local fonts are not
> supported.
>
> Does anyone know how to ensure that the local (non-standard) PS fonts
are
> included in the file sent to the Printer ?
Try the `enscript` command, works just like lpr.
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Rick Voland wrote:
>
> I've installed SoftPC 4.0 in demo mode using the files from ftp.insignia.com.
> I had to open SoftPC.pkg as a folder and change the permissions on one file
> that looks like a text file. It needs to be able to execute. I'm sorry to be
> vague, but I don't have Internet access yet from Openstep and I would have to
> reboot to check the details and then reboot again to send this message.
>
> After you change the permissions it should install fine in Demo mode.
> Unfortunately, you need a license string to get more than 30 days. I tried
> two different groups at Insignia (sales and UNIX support). They were a bit
> unpleasant at asking how I got the file. They claimed the product had been
> discontinued for three years and were not interested in selling me a license
> string. (The latest press release is only three years old).
>
> When I tried to install the SoftPC 4.1 update, I again had to put the update
> file inside SoftPC.app and change the permissions to get the file to execute.
> Then, I got an error that the license was out of date.
>
> Is there anyone at Insignia that is interested in selling the license string
> for SoftPC 4.0 and SoftPC 4.1?
> Rick Voland
I would also be interested in any information on how to get my version
of SoftPC to wortk for morethan 30 days...
Cheers,
Nor
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb3
Distribution: World
Organization: would be nice
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References: <74k4i8$jqn@omni.cc.purdue.edu>
Message-ID: <76kb2.636$o44.1450658@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 01:10:27 GMT
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In <74k4i8$jqn@omni.cc.purdue.edu> Sumitrajit Dhar wrote:
> Does anyone know whether OmniWeb3 works on NS3.3 or is it solely for
> OS4.2? The information on the web site seems to suggest it is for OS4.2
> only.
4.2 only.
(actually I heard someone is using it under 4.1, but 3.3 will not work)
TjL
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From: Jo.Hagelberg@t-online.de (Jo Hagelberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: NS3.3 to OS4.2/NT port?
Date: 9 Dec 1998 08:19:11 GMT
Organization: Dipl.-Phys. Jo Hagelberg Systemtechnik
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hello,
I want to port a NextSTep 3.3 application to OpenStep NT 4.2? Do I need Mach 4.2
too?
I didn't find any plain answer to this in the newsgroups.
I just learned that there are some conversion scripts available, however, not on
the
OS/NT package. So the OS/Mach package (which I don't have yet) seems to be
needed for the conversion.
I'm not familiar with neither system, just have some OO experience and a
colleague who has done the NS3.3 stuff. I'd appreciate any help you can give
to me.
best regards
Jo Hagelberg
From: echo4@NOSPAM.erols.com --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: irc clients
Date: 9 Dec 1998 01:51:43 GMT
Message-ID: <74kl3f$8v9$1@winter.news.rcn.net>
References: <ubcb2.570$L52.174@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> <85kb2.635$o44.1450658@newshog.newsread.com>
<rckb2.585$L52.192@news.rdc1.ne.home.com>
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Cc: satan@hell.home.com
In <rckb2.585$L52.192@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
> Umm, thanks and everything. but I asked for Circe, not Encircle. Someone
in
> this group mentioned it yesterday. I agree with same, IRC and Encircle are
> totally unusable. Still waiting to hear from anyone that has intel bin for
> either BitchX or Epic.
>
> In <85kb2.635$o44.1450658@newshog.newsread.com> TjL wrote:
> > In <ubcb2.570$L52.174@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
> >
> > > Also, someone mentioned Circe.app, I have never seen this, where can it
> be
> > > had?
> >
> >
> >
>
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/irc/Encircle.0.11.NIHS.b.tar.
> > gz
> >
> > TjL-
>
>
Most of you guys aren't familiar with this irc clients, but it out there.
IRCstep.app. Here is the site, where you guys can get it.
http://www.etl.go.jp/~kfujiwar/next/ircstep/download_j.html, the site in
japanese, but he does
have an English version, plus the source code.
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NeXTMail,SUN,MIME
|========================================|
From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP with SoftPC
Date: 9 Dec 1998 14:51:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <74m2ok$ram@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
References: <366E4FC2.571D229A@eso.org>
In article <366E4FC2.571D229A@eso.org> Norbert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org>
writes:
> I would also be interested in any information on how to get my
version
> of SoftPC to wortk for morethan 30 days...
>
\
Speaking purely hypothetically, of course (I have NOT done this), one
could try the following:
1. From the SoftPC.pkg directory, copy the file "unlock" to
/usr/local/bin. Change its permissions to be suid root, writable by no
one.
2. As root, create the shell script /usr/local/bin/spchack with the
following contents:
#!/bin/sh
/bin/rm /.spcinfo /LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC.lock
/usr/local/bin/unlock /LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC
3. Add the following line to /etc/crontab:
0 0 * * 6 root /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/spchack
If one performed these steps, I surmise one would discover the thirty-day
demo cycle was being reset every Saturday at midnight, thus allowing for
essentially unlimited use of SoftPC in demo mode.
I hope this satisfies someone's purely intellectual curiosity.
Alex
--
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Philosophy Department
Lehigh University
ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: Louis Vosloo <support@YandY.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex,comp.fonts
Subject: Re: IHow to install CM ps type1 fonts for NeXT/teTeX/pdf
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:06:45 -0500
Organization: Y&Y, Inc.
Message-ID: <366DDB35.3FA8A2FE@YandY.com>
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no@spam.please wrote:
> > I obtained the Bluesky package from CTAN:/fonts/cm/ps-type1/bluesky
> > and copied the pfb directory to
> /usr/local/teTeX/texmf/fonts/type1/public/cm.
> > What do I do to complete this? Can someone supply clear, detailed
> > instructions?
For use with Display PostScript you want PFA and AFM files, not
PFB and PFM. Hence, get the Unix distribution, not the PC/Windows
one. You then need a script to construct the file
directory hierarchy, rename the files and inform DPS of the fonts.
A script for this was posted here recently.
(Such a script also comes with the Unix versions of the CM font
set from Y&Y)
From: Lars Immisch <lars@ibp.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: perl5.005_2 and mod_perl
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 20:08:48 +0100
Organization: ~
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Hi all,
I just tried to compile perl.5.005_2 on a NeXTStation 3.3 with gcc
2.7.2. The build (after a configure with all defaults) failed with
linker errors (symbols multiply defined).
Has anybody compiled this successfully?
I am aware of the prepackaged 5.004_4, but I cannot use it because I
ultimately want to compile mod_perl for apache.
Thanks in advance,
Lars Immisch
--
lars@ibp.de
From: Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help - start problem
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 05:16:31 GMT
Organization: EUnet Belgium, Leuven, Belgium
Message-ID: <74mlv9$8au$1@news3.Belgium.EU.net>
References: <71aemu$lc8$1@news3.Belgium.EU.net>
Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten) wrote:
Help ... again - must I abandon the Next :-((((((
>Help,
>My next cube has the following problem:
>He starts up : start from rom monitor
>scsi target 0, lun 0
>Then in Next Mach operating system
>Next rom monitor 1.0 v 41
>Next Mach 3.3
>fpu version 0x0
>memory 16 m
>available 14.07 me
>using 102 buffers ...
>scsi controller 53c90a target 7, as sc0 at 0x2014000
>microp. nr .. as sd0 at sc0 target 0, lun 0
>Maxtor nr.. as sd1 at sc0 target 1, lun 0
>sony cd rom as sd2 at sc0 target 3 ,lun 0
>quantum as sd3 at sc0 target 6 ,lun 0
>generic scsi device as sg0 at sc0 target 7, lun 7
> gene.... sg1 .....;idem ...;
> gene...; sg2 ... idem ....;
> gene... sg 3 idem ...
>odc0 at 0x2012000
>od0 at odc0 slave 0
>od1 at odc0 slave 1
>--------
>at this point al stops :-((((
>What must be done, please help
>arnold
From: no@spam.please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tcpdump for m68k on this.net
Date: 9 Dec 1998 20:04:29 GMT
Organization: land of strange wizards
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Hi folks!
Due to recent demand you will find not only a intel but a a m68k version of
tcpdump on
http://www.this.net/~frank/download.html
have fun
- Frank
From: Shamus Jary Mcconney <mcconney@ucet.ufl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Using a Yamaha CDR400axt w/ mono turbo slab
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 18:34:35 -0500
Organization: SavageDeath
Message-ID: <366F090B.41C6@ucet.ufl.edu>
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Can any one suggest any software for writing with this combo.
Is there any NeXT writing software that can write multisession disks?
Shamus McConney
mcconney@nwe.ufl.edu
http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~mcconney/
http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~mcconney/Pd+.html
From: "JWL" <echo + 4@mail.idt.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: irc clients
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:01:57 -0500
Message-ID: <74n6di$4dc$1@winter.news.rcn.net>
References: <ubcb2.570$L52.174@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> <85kb2.635$o44.1450658@newshog.newsread.com> <rckb2.585$L52.192@news.rdc1.ne.home.com>
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If I have time this weekend, I'm attempt to port BitchX (if terminal based)
to OpenStep, post where I can pick up the source.
Jay
echo4@erols.com
NeXT, SUN, MIME OK
Michael Lankton wrote in message ...
>Umm, thanks and everything. but I asked for Circe, not Encircle. Someone
in
>this group mentioned it yesterday. I agree with same, IRC and Encircle are
>totally unusable. Still waiting to hear from anyone that has intel bin for
>either BitchX or Epic.
>
>In <85kb2.635$o44.1450658@newshog.newsread.com> TjL wrote:
>> In <ubcb2.570$L52.174@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
>>
>> > Also, someone mentioned Circe.app, I have never seen this, where can it
>be
>> > had?
>>
>>
>>
>ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/irc/Encircle.0.11.NIHS.b.tar
.
>> gz
>>
>> TjL-
>
From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: irc clients
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:58:26 GMT
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In <74n6di$4dc$1@winter.news.rcn.net> "JWL" wrote:
> If I have time this weekend, I'm attempt to port BitchX (if terminal based)
> to OpenStep, post where I can pick up the source.
ftp://ftp.bitchx.com/pub/BitchX/source/ircii-pana-75p1.tar.gz
I'm sure I'm not the only one who would love this, let us know if you can get
it to compile. Thx.
From: kb7sqi@pindigital.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: irc clients
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:49:47 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <74nqub$lpm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
References: <ubcb2.570$L52.174@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> <85kb2.635$o44.1450658@newshog.newsread.com> <rckb2.585$L52.192@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> <74n6di$4dc$1@winter.news.rcn.net>
In article <74n6di$4dc$1@winter.news.rcn.net>, "JWL" <echo4@mail.idt.net>
wrote:
> If I have time this weekend, I'm attempt to port BitchX (if terminal based)
> to OpenStep, post where I can pick up the source.
>
> Jay
> echo4@erols.com
> NeXT, SUN, MIME OK
Hi Jay, You can get BitchX at ftp.bitchx.com. The lastest I believe is
ircii-pana-75b?? I noticed that an earlier version had been compiled for
Rhapsody on ftp.cs-tu-berlin.de. I had no problems compiling the latest
version of ircII-4.4B just 2 weeks ago on my Openstep 4.2 system. But, I
haven't got BitchX or Epic to compile yet. Hope that helps. Take care &
Happy Holidays!
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From: holkema@globalxs.nl (T)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Download FULL SOFTWARE (NT,NFS 3 CARM{A @ etc.)!
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:56:09 GMT
Organization: MultiAccess
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Cache-Post-Path: jive.news.big-orange.net!unknown@169.153.dialin.mxs.nl
I Found a good WWW Resource:
Download full software at : www.globalxs.nl/home/h/holkema
go to main page and select the link "DOWNLOBAD FULL VERSIONS"
I think it's a great source for all of you in here
From: Uwe Kraul <office@uksd.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OS4.2 Apache 1.3.x
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:31:42 +0100
Organization: UKSD - Software-Design & Programming / Consulting
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Looking for Apache 1.3.x running under OS4.2 (Mach). Somebody has
successfully compiled this stuff, or has an URL where I can find these
things?
bis demNeXT Uwe
(cu)
From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: perl5.005_2 and mod_perl
Date: 10 Dec 1998 15:04:19 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <74ontj$f7a$2@unlnews.unl.edu>
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In article <366ECAC0.41DF@ibp.de>, you wrote:
> I just tried to compile perl.5.005_2 on a NeXTStation 3.3 with gcc
> 2.7.2. The build (after a configure with all defaults) failed with
> linker errors (symbols multiply defined).
Have you tried the standard cc compiler? Newer gcc's sometimes won't
successfully build software that uses dynamic library loading (and perl does
that).
> I am aware of the prepackaged 5.004_4, but I cannot use it because I
> ultimately want to compile mod_perl for apache.
And... the reason why you can't use the prepackaged 5.004_4 for mod_perl is?
(Hint: it WILL work).
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu
Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: BillLeeX@cleaf.com
Subject: Mail.app retriving mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Message-ID: <mVRb2.950$W3.3333@news12.ispnews.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:37:54 EDT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:37:54 GMT
Is there any way to get the mail app to retrieve mail from a mail
server at my ISP? Basically, I'd like to fold the function of
Popover intop Mail.app if that's possible.
Regards,
Bill Lee
(Take out the X to respond.)
From: Lars Immisch <lars@ibp.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: perl5.005_2 and mod_perl
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:54:37 +0100
Organization: ~
Message-ID: <366FEEBD.2927@ibp.de>
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Rex Dieter wrote:
>
> In article <366ECAC0.41DF@ibp.de>, you wrote:
>
> > I just tried to compile perl.5.005_2 on a NeXTStation 3.3 with gcc
> > 2.7.2. The build (after a configure with all defaults) failed with
> > linker errors (symbols multiply defined).
>
> Have you tried the standard cc compiler? Newer gcc's sometimes won't
> successfully build software that uses dynamic library loading (and perl does
> that).
That is a good tip; thanks.
> > I am aware of the prepackaged 5.004_4, but I cannot use it because I
> > ultimately want to compile mod_perl for apache.
>
> And... the reason why you can't use the prepackaged 5.004_4 for mod_perl is?
> (Hint: it WILL work).
Hmm. I did try it and the build process complained that it couldn't find
the source tree for perl. This sounded plausible to me.
But I will try again both ways.
Thanks,
Lars Immisch
--
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From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: perl5.005_2 and mod_perl
Date: 10 Dec 1998 16:02:05 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <74or9t$gli$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
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In article <366FEEBD.2927@ibp.de>, you wrote:
> > > I am aware of the prepackaged 5.004_4, but I cannot use it
> > > because I ultimately want to compile mod_perl for apache.
> Rex wrote:
> > And... the reason why you can't use the prepackaged 5.004_4 for
> > mod_perl is? (Hint: it WILL work).
>
> Hmm. I did try it and the build process complained that it couldn't
> find the source tree for perl. This sounded plausible to me.
Here's an excerpt from the README for the perl package at:
http://www.peak.org/next/apps/devtools/perl/perl.5.004_04.README
perl.pkg contains the base Perl executable, libraries and man pages. If you
want to create Perl extensions or embed Perl into your own programs you must
also install perlCORE.pkg
So, make sure to grab the perlCORE archive too.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu
Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Djani Burazerovic <d.burazerovic@stud.tue.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Sorry, I know now that my question doesn't belong here
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:19:19 +0100
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <366FF486.ADC0DBAD@stud.tue.nl>
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Djani wrote:
> 1. Can one recover damaged sectors of a hard-disk by software means, and
> if so
> how? (It's a 486DX-2 66Mhz computer, having DOS+Windows 3.1
> operating sys.)
>
> The damage occured as a result of a wrong conection of a CD-ROM
> drive,
> (Don't ask how it happened :-)) which probably caused power supply
> failure.
>
> 2. Can the damaged sectors affect the good working remainder of the
> hard-disk ?
>
> Many thanks in advance/Les agradezco de antemano
> Djani
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OS4.2 Apache 1.3.x
Organization: would be nice
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References: <366FB11D.91DF514F@uksd.com>
Message-ID: <d_Sb2.599$we4.1045789@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:51:21 GMT
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In <366FB11D.91DF514F@uksd.com> Uwe Kraul wrote:
> Looking for Apache 1.3.x running under OS4.2 (Mach). Somebody has
> successfully compiled this stuff, or has an URL where I can find these
> things?
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/apache/apache.1.3b5.NIHS.
bs.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/apache/apache.1.3b5.README
that's a beta release, not the final release.
Scott Anguish wrote some very helpful tips on compiling Apache which you
should be able to find at http://www.stepwise.com (namely
http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Workbench/BuildingApache.html but if you
haven't checked out the site recently, you should.... goto the home page and
then follow the 'More Articles' link to get to the Apache article, and a ton
more)
TjL
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From: Lars Immisch <lars@ibp.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: perl5.005_2 and mod_perl
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 19:52:10 +0100
Organization: ~
Message-ID: <3670185A.2566@ibp.de>
References: <366ECAC0.41DF@ibp.de> <74ontj$f7a$2@unlnews.unl.edu> <366FEEBD.2927@ibp.de> <74or9t$gli$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
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> > Rex wrote:
> > > And... the reason why you can't use the prepackaged 5.004_4 for
> > > mod_perl is? (Hint: it WILL work).
> >
> > Hmm. I did try it and the build process complained that it couldn't
> > find the source tree for perl. This sounded plausible to me.
>
> Here's an excerpt from the README for the perl package at:
> http://www.peak.org/next/apps/devtools/perl/perl.5.004_04.README
>
> perl.pkg contains the base Perl executable, libraries and man pages. If you
> want to create Perl extensions or embed Perl into your own programs you must
> also install perlCORE.pkg
>
> So, make sure to grab the perlCORE archive too.
(looking slightly embarrased) Umm, yes, thanks.
I did manage to compile perl.5.005_02 now (tests are running ok so far).
I used cc instead of gcc (and changed the shared lib extension from so
to shlib) and that did it.
Thanks for your help.
Lars Immisch
--
lars@ibp.de
From: "George B. Ameer" <george1@ana.porsa.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP with SoftPC
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:10:40 -0800
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Thanks for the tip. As a registered and paid for user
whose machine had to be replaced/rebuilt and the key lost,
it is nice to get SoftPC back. Insignia should be shot for
not supporting people who PAID MONEY and can't get
the decency of a reply to multiple emails.
From: Bill <Bill@software.com>
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From: panaflex@fitzharris.com (Sean Weitzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Help: (How) can I recover damaged sectors of a HD?
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 21:42:31 GMT
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What kind of drive is it? IDE? I know of an older dos based utility
called Spinrite that used to work wonders on MFM/RLL/ESDI disk
drives.. the old version I have doesn't work with IDE discs though. I
have heard of a program called Drive Wizard that will do just that on
an IDE disc. Or see if Spinrite is still around and if there are new
versions available that work with IDE discs.
-sean
p.s., spinrite was fantastic. It was a small ~200k assembly-coded EXE
that fit comfortably on a 360k 5.25" floppy along with the boot files
for MS-Dos 5.0
On Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:16:47 +0100, Djani <d.burazerovic@stud.tue.nl>
wrote:
>1. Can one recover damaged sectors of a hard-disk by software means, and
>if so
> how? (It's a 486DX-2 66Mhz computer, having DOS+Windows 3.1
>operating sys.)
>
> The damage occured as a result of a wrong conection of a CD-ROM
>drive,
> (Don't ask how it happened :-)) which probably caused power supply
>failure.
>
>2. Can the damaged sectors affect the good working remainder of the
>hard-disk ?
>
>Many thanks in advance/Les agradezco de antemano
>Djani
>
>
- ME-
http://fitzharris.com/~panaflex
- check out my KOME tribute site -
http://fitzharris.com/~KOME
Subject: Re: Mail.app retriving mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <mVRb2.950$W3.3333@news12.ispnews.com>
In-Reply-To: <mVRb2.950$W3.3333@news12.ispnews.com>
From: paul <pb141@nospamcolumbia.edu
Message-ID: <5bYb2.2041$c4.11804@news6.ispnews.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:46:25 EDT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 22:46:25 GMT
On 12/10/98, BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
>Is there any way to get the mail app to retrieve mail from a mail
>server at my ISP? Basically, I'd like to fold the function of
>Popover intop Mail.app if that's possible.
>
>Regards,
>
>Bill Lee
>(Take out the X to respond.)
>
There is a dwrite "RemoteFetch" for which I have not heard of a function--
could allude to some functionality that was never finished. A bundle should
be posssible. Switch to Openstep and use PopOver 2.0.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OS4.2 Apache 1.3.x
Date: 10 Dec 1998 22:21:07 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <74phgj$3p9$1@news.digifix.com>
References: <366FB11D.91DF514F@uksd.com> <d_Sb2.599$we4.1045789@newshog.newsread.com>
In-Reply-To: <d_Sb2.599$we4.1045789@newshog.newsread.com>
On 12/10/98, TjL wrote:
>In <366FB11D.91DF514F@uksd.com> Uwe Kraul wrote:
>> Looking for Apache 1.3.x running under OS4.2 (Mach). Somebody has
>> successfully compiled this stuff, or has an URL where I can find
these
>> things?
>
>ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/apache/apache.1.3b
5.NIHS.
>bs.tar.gz
>ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/apache/apache.1.3b
5.README
>
>that's a beta release, not the final release.
>
>Scott Anguish wrote some very helpful tips on compiling Apache which
you
>should be able to find at http://www.stepwise.com (namely
>http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Workbench/BuildingApache.html but if
you
>haven't checked out the site recently, you should.... goto the home
page and
>then follow the 'More Articles' link to get to the Apache article,
and a ton
>more)
Just to follow up on this... the most current version (1.3.3
as I recall) compiled out of the box on OpenStep 4.2, but there was
problem running some included CGI stuff on it, at least I noticed this
on one machine.
--
Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com>
Stepwise - OpenStep/Rhapsody Information
<URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: George B Haff <haff+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 22:02:59 -0500
Organization: Junior, Mathematical Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <gqQ8hX200iWV0Aidw0@andrew.cmu.edu>
References: <74pm64$1iao$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu>
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.marketplace: 10-Dec-98 Wanted: Simon
Says license by Robert Singleton@terrapi
> Does anyone have a license for the SimonSays application for
> the NeXT that they would like to part with? I'm running NS3.2
> on black hardware. I have a demo version that runs in a limited
> capacity for 30 minutes, but would like to get it running for
> real. I've been told that Metrosoft no longer sells this
> software. Or, perhaps you could recommend another voice
> recognition interface. Thanks very much.
i hate to be a "yeah yeah me too" but...
im looking for the same.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks,
-george
---
________________________________________
|: george b haff DiXuM :|
|: <haff+@andrew.cmu.edu> :|
|: <dixum@cmu.edu> :|
|: :|
|: "y2k will rock your lame ass" :|
|: -a bumper sticker :|
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From: echo4@NOSPAM.erols.com --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: irc clients
Date: 11 Dec 1998 03:15:35 GMT
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Cc: kb7sqi@pindigital.net
In <74nqub$lpm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> kb7sqi@pindigital.net wrote:
> In article <74n6di$4dc$1@winter.news.rcn.net>, "JWL" <echo4@mail.idt.net>
> wrote:
>
> > If I have time this weekend, I'm attempt to port BitchX (if terminal
based)
> > to OpenStep, post where I can pick up the source.
> >
> > Jay
> > echo4@erols.com
> > NeXT, SUN, MIME OK
>
> Hi Jay, You can get BitchX at ftp.bitchx.com. The lastest I believe is
> ircii-pana-75b?? I noticed that an earlier version had been compiled for
> Rhapsody on ftp.cs-tu-berlin.de. I had no problems compiling the latest
> version of ircII-4.4B just 2 weeks ago on my Openstep 4.2 system. But, I
> haven't got BitchX or Epic to compile yet. Hope that helps. Take care &
> Happy Holidays!
>
> ----
> Steve, kb7sqi@pindigital.net kb7sqi@yahoo.com
> NeXTMail Welcome! ICQ#: 9248680
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
I just picked up the code and did a super hack (took me about twenty mins) to
get the damn thing to compile. It works. I am not too sure, how much of
BitchX is working. I am not familiar with this irc stuff (and I relatively
new to networking code) so it looks like, I won't to able to test it well.
Would you guys like to test this super alpha version? Maybe, tell me what
functionality, I hacked around. I'll try to fix it when I have more time.
The only thing that I can guarantee for the time being is a good CRASH!, but
still if you interested. Let me know.
--
|========================================|
J. Lee
echo4@NOSPAM.erols.com --delete NOSPAM
NeXTMail,SUN,MIME
|========================================|
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Subject: Re: irc clients
Date: 11 Dec 1998 03:16:42 GMT
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In <74nqub$lpm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> kb7sqi@pindigital.net wrote:
> In article <74n6di$4dc$1@winter.news.rcn.net>, "JWL" <echo4@mail.idt.net>
> wrote:
>
> > If I have time this weekend, I'm attempt to port BitchX (if terminal
based)
> > to OpenStep, post where I can pick up the source.
> >
> > Jay
> > echo4@erols.com
> > NeXT, SUN, MIME OK
>
> Hi Jay, You can get BitchX at ftp.bitchx.com. The lastest I believe is
> ircii-pana-75b?? I noticed that an earlier version had been compiled for
> Rhapsody on ftp.cs-tu-berlin.de. I had no problems compiling the latest
> version of ircII-4.4B just 2 weeks ago on my Openstep 4.2 system. But, I
> haven't got BitchX or Epic to compile yet. Hope that helps. Take care &
> Happy Holidays!
>
> ----
> Steve, kb7sqi@pindigital.net kb7sqi@yahoo.com
> NeXTMail Welcome! ICQ#: 9248680
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
While am at it, where can I pick up ircII-4.4B. I need to learn some other
code.
--
|========================================|
J. Lee
echo4@NOSPAM.erols.com --delete NOSPAM
NeXTMail,SUN,MIME
|========================================|
From: "Rob Jarrett" <n0spam_robj@cgocable.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: Possible to dual boot on Black hardware?
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 00:03:52 -0500
Message-ID: <3670a873.0@news.cgocable.net>
I'd really like to be able to easily switch between NS3.3 and OS4.2 on my
Turbo Color - any suggestions for this? I don't have a removable drive, but
I was wondering if I could set up different partitions on the HD and switch
between them, perhaps with a simple script.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
From: rivet@volcane.is.my.33Mhz.NeXT.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: irc clients
Date: 11 Dec 1998 05:48:08 GMT
Organization: .crackheads.with.real.computers.but.no.real.jobs.
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[>] I just picked up the code and did a super hack (took me about twenty
mins) to
[>] get the damn thing to compile. It works. I am not too sure, how much
of
[>] BitchX is working. I am not familiar with this irc stuff (and I
relatively
[>] new to networking code) so it looks like, I won't to able to test it
well.
[>] Would you guys like to test this super alpha version? Maybe, tell me
what
[>] functionality, I hacked around. I'll try to fix it when I have more
time.
[>] The only thing that I can guarantee for the time being is a good CRASH!,
but
[>] still if you interested. Let me know.
can you post a binary some where sometime? people come to #nextstep on efnet
all the
time asking for it.
--
"I noticed a clump of wild flowers that we had trampled underfoot upon
departing - yellow camomiles, relics of our yesterday."
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From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Possible to dual boot on Black hardware?
Date: 11 Dec 1998 12:30:52 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
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"Rob Jarrett" <n0spam_robj@cgocable.net> wrote:
> I'd really like to be able to easily switch between NS3.3 and OS4.2
> on my Turbo Color - any suggestions for this? I don't have a
> removable drive, but I was wondering if I could set up different
> partitions on the HD and switch between them, perhaps with a simple
> script.
It is possible but not that easy because you cannot create anything
comparable to the fdisk partitions in the intel world. You create on large
NEXTSTEP disk and inside this you create two partitions using the UNIX disk
and newfs commands. Then you mount the OPENSTEP and NEXTSTEP CDs and use
ditto to copy the systems onto the respective partitions. This process was
described in some detail in a release note which I can't find anymore...
To use this setup on black hardware, you have to break into the ROM Monitor
and enter the boot command manually, when you want to boot the OS on the
second partion. Given that you are using the SCSI drive with the lowest ID
the command would be
bsd(0,0,1)sdmach -a
Then, you'll be prompted for the rootdevice which would be sd0b in this case.
regards,
erik
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openstep 4.2 (Mach) Installation Problem
Date: 11 Dec 1998 13:51:52 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <74r81o$psn$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <3670A759.7952997B@cs.cmu.edu>
In article <3670A759.7952997B@cs.cmu.edu> writes:
> Can OpenStep be installed in a second hard drive (with its partition in
> the first 2GB -- and not being concerned with the size of the main hard
> drive)?
Yes, but it requires a bit of modifications. The default install assumes
it's being installed to the first drive.
I think you have to go into the "Expert" section of Configure.app, edit the
parameter called "Kernel Flags" to specify a different boot/root device.
Something like
Kernel Flags sd(1,a)mach_kernel rootdev=sd1a
This specifies boot from the second SCSI disk, partition a.
I think this is correct, I got the hints based on the helpfile at
/usr/standalone/i386/BootHelp.txt
or you can just type those by hand on every boot and the NeXT boot prompt.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu
Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: "Big Sell" <studio_mix@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Great sell....
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 00:32:33 +0800
Organization: Netfront Information Technology Limited.
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We're selling the Cakewalk Pro Audio 7.0 CD-R version for USD25 including
the shipping. Pls contact me at <studio_mix@yahoo.com> if you're interested.
Regards,
Philip
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From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: alternative to peanuts.leo.org?
Date: 11 Dec 1998 17:23:06 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison
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luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) wrote:
>In <74ffh6$nr6$1@piglet.cc.uic.edu> Richard Beigel wrote:
>> Is there an alternative to peanuts.leo.org, for times when peanuts
>> is down or overloaded?
There is supposed to be ftp.evolution.com, but whenever I've tried it recently the connection times out:
alumni(1)% ftp ftp.evolution.com
Connected to ftp.evolution.com.
220- ====================================================
220- == The Evolution Online Systems Inc. FTP Server ==
220- == Peanuts NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Archive ==
220- ====================================================
220-
220-
220- This server is in NYC, NY, USA
220-
220-
220- All transfers are logged with your hostname and email address.
220- If you don't like this policy, disconnect now.
220-
220- =---------------------------------------------------------------=
220- The following FTP sites also maintain a mirror of the Peanuts archive:
220- ftp.mb3.tu-chemnitz.de /pub/NeXT Germany
220- ftp.eunet.ch /pub/next Switzerland
220- ftp.dn.net /pub/next
220- =---------------------------------------------------------------=
220-
220-
220- Report any problems to systems@evolution.com.
220-
220-
220-
220 multiweb FTP server (Version wu-2.4-evolved) ready.
500 'AUTH GSSAPI': command not understood.
Name (ftp.evolution.com:bestor): ftp
331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
Password:
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> ls
227 Entering Passive Mode (209,208,129,101,169,187)
ftp: connect: Connection timed out
ftp>
From: stryker@montana.edu (Christian Stryker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:09:12 -0700
Organization: Burns Telecommunications Center
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I knew I should have written with my request earlier. Now, I look like an
also, also ran.
Well, here it goes:
I'd be interested in a license as well. Just name a price or a source.
-Chris
---------
Dr. Christian Stryker
Educational Technologist
Montana State University
stryker@montana.edu
In article <gqQ8hX200iWV0Aidw0@andrew.cmu.edu>, George B Haff
<haff+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.marketplace: 10-Dec-98 Wanted: Simon
>Says license by Robert Singleton@terrapi
>> Does anyone have a license for the SimonSays application for
>> the NeXT that they would like to part with? I'm running NS3.2
>> on black hardware. I have a demo version that runs in a limited
>> capacity for 30 minutes, but would like to get it running for
>> real. I've been told that Metrosoft no longer sells this
>> software. Or, perhaps you could recommend another voice
>> recognition interface. Thanks very much.
>
>i hate to be a "yeah yeah me too" but...
>im looking for the same.
>any help would be appreciated.
>thanks,
>-george
>
>---
> ________________________________________
>|: george b haff DiXuM :|
>|: <haff+@andrew.cmu.edu> :|
>|: <dixum@cmu.edu> :|
>|: :|
>|: "y2k will rock your lame ass" :|
>|: -a bumper sticker :|
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
--
From: tw-TakeThisOut-@hrl.com (Williamson, Weldon S)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Serial-Port Problem Under NS 3.3
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:05:27 -0700
Organization: HRL Laboratories
Message-ID: <tw-TakeThisOut--1112981505270001@matod.hrl.hac.com>
I am running NeXTStep 3.3 on an Intel motherboard, using the on-board COM1
and COM2 ports and the standard-release On-Board Serial Port driver, a
single driver that responds to IRQs 3 and 4 and handles both ports. I need
to operate both ports at 57,600 baud, communicating with a DOS machine a
few feet away. This was all working fine on an old computer (200 MHz
Pentium-S), but on a new machine (300-MHz Pentium II on Intel PD440FX
motherboard), the OS crashes (even alt-numlock gets no response) within a
few minutes or seconds of launching the code that accesses the ports (same
code and driver as in the old Pentium-S machine). Running at a lower baud
rate causes it to take longer to crash.
I have tried using the Mux driver (v. 1.9), which I downloaded from Peak.
I used a separate instance of the driver for COM1 and COM2, setting the
IRQs, port addresses and instance numbers appropriately (instance 0:
0x3F8-0x3Ff: IRQ4; instance 1: 0x2F8-0x2FF, IRQ3). COM1 works fine with
this driver, but when the code tries to do an ioctl(TIOCSETD) for COM2, it
gets an error from Mach, and the port fails to communicate. If I try to
drive _only_ COM2 with a single instance of the Mux driver, I get the same
error.
I tried using an ISA serial board addressed as COM1 and COM2, after
disabling the onboard ports. With either the ISA serial port driver or the
Mux driver, the behavior was the same as with the onboard ports.
Can anyone help with this vexing problem?!
TIA,
Tod Williamson
tw@hrl.com
_____________________________________________________
- Tod Williamson
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From: "Rob Jarrett" <n0spam_robj@cgocable.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
References: <3670a873.0@news.cgocable.net> <74r39s$a9v$1@leonie.object-factory.com>
Subject: Re: Q: Possible to dual boot on Black hardware?
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 18:52:35 -0500
Message-ID: <3671b100.0@news.cgocable.net>
Sounds encouraging, thanks Erik. I'll poke around some more and see what I
come up with.
Many thanks for the help.
Rob
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app retriving mail
Organization: would be nice
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Message-ID: <fQjc2.376$vg4.577931@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 01:40:27 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 20:40:27 EDT
In <5bYb2.2041$c4.11804@news6.ispnews.com> paul wrote:
> On 12/10/98, BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> >Is there any way to get the mail app to retrieve mail from a mail
> >server at my ISP? Basically, I'd like to fold the function of
> >Popover intop Mail.app if that's possible.
>
> There is a dwrite "RemoteFetch" for which I have not heard of a function--
> could allude to some functionality that was never finished.
Here's the "official" word on that feature
The (unsupported) RemoteFetch syntax is as follows:
% dwrite Mail RemoteFetch [<<localhost>:]<<fetchhost>
This will cause Mail to run MailFetch remotely on <<fetchhost> if your
local hostname is <<localhost>, or, if "<<localhost>:" is absent, always.
For example:
% dwrite Mail RemoteFetch homehost:workhost
would cause Mail to "rsh workhost /NextApps/Mail.app/MailFetch" when
Mail.app itself was run on homehost, but otherwise fetch normally.
As to the original post:
Yes it is possible (rename MailFetch with a script that calls popOver and
then runs the original MailFetch) but it might just be easier to use a cron
job:
0,15,30,45 * * * * luomat /usr/local/bin/popOver
change 'luomat' to your username
This assumes that you have already used PopOver.app to configure the POP
stuff.
TjL
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From: bobs@terrapin.phys.washington.edu (Robert Singleton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,pnw.forsale,seattle.forsale.computers,seattle.forsale.misc,uwash.forsale
Subject: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: 10 Dec 1998 23:40:52 GMT
Organization: R'lyeh
Message-ID: <74pm64$1iao$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu>
Does anyone have a license for the SimonSays application for
the NeXT that they would like to part with? I'm running NS3.2
on black hardware. I have a demo version that runs in a limited
capacity for 30 minutes, but would like to get it running for
real. I've been told that Metrosoft no longer sells this
software. Or, perhaps you could recommend another voice
recognition interface. Thanks very much.
--
Robert Singleton work: (206) 543-9640
Department of Physics fax : (206) 685-0635
University of Washington office: B416 Phys & Astronomy Bldg.
Box 351560 bobs@terrapin.phys.washington.edu
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: bzip2 on NeXT?
Date: 12 Dec 1998 09:15:17 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <74tc75$79r$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Originator: schwarz@hera.physik.tu-berlin.de
Has anybody managed to compile bzip2 0.9.0c on NeXT 3.3?
I get:
cc -Wall -O -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -c bzip2.c
bzip2.c: In function `notAStandardFile':
bzip2.c:776: warning: implicit declaration of function `S_ISREG'
bzip2.c: In function `copyDatePermissionsAndOwner':
bzip2.c:787: storage size of `uTimBuf' isn't known
bzip2.c:794: warning: implicit declaration of function `chmod'
bzip2.c:805: warning: implicit declaration of function `utime'
bzip2.c:787: warning: unused variable `uTimBuf'
bzip2.c: In function `setInterimPermissions':
bzip2.c:816: `S_IRUSR' undeclared (first use this function)
bzip2.c:816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
bzip2.c:816: for each function it appears in.)
bzip2.c:816: `S_IWUSR' undeclared (first use this function)
bzip2.c: In function `compress':
bzip2.c:896: warning: implicit declaration of function `isatty'
gmake: *** [bzip2] Error 1
Any ideas what to change in order to make it compile?
--
Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui)
Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi
Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Possible to dual boot on Black hardware?
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SCOTT.98Dec11102943@slave.doubleu.com>
References: <3670a873.0@news.cgocable.net>
In-reply-to: "Rob Jarrett"'s message of Fri, 11 Dec 1998 00:03:52 -0500
Date: 11 Dec 98 10:29:43
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 02:04:48 PDT
In article <3670a873.0@news.cgocable.net>,
"Rob Jarrett" <n0spam_robj@cgocable.net> writes:
I'd really like to be able to easily switch between NS3.3 and OS4.2
on my Turbo Color - any suggestions for this? I don't have a
removable drive, but I was wondering if I could set up different
partitions on the HD and switch between them, perhaps with a simple
script.
You can do it, but it's easiest if you have two bootable drives to
start with. You partition one drive as desired and install one of the
operating systems. Then you install to the other drive. Then you
boot the first installation, and use it to copy everything from the
second drive to the second partition of the first drive, using
something that will work _right_ (not tar, but gnutar, or ditto, or
cpio. Whatever can keep the full pathnames, get the permissions
right, and copy devices).
Then for the tricks. After you've got the second partition setup,
mount it and edit /mnt/etc/fstab. You need to change / from /dev/sd0a
to /dev/sd0b. And delete /mnt/private/vm/swapfile and recreate it
using mkfile to the lowat specified in /mnt/etc/swaptab (the copy
process _probably_ got it right, but I'm paranoid). You may also wish
to muck with /etc/swaptab and /mnt/etc/swaptab to cause each operating
system to swap to the _other_ partition (no performance gain at all -
but you won't overfill your root partition).
To boot the second partition, you use something like
"bsd(0,b)mach_kernel rootdev=sd0b". It's been so long since I did
this (during the NS2.1 to NS3.0 conversion) that I can't recall for
_certain_ what of that boot command was required. You may be able to
get by with "bsd(0,b)" or "bsd(0,b) rootdev=sd0b" or
"bsd(0,b)mach_kernel". [This can be an important question if you want
to use it as your default boot command, which is of limited length.]
It would probably be a good idea to just put the operating system you
most often want to boot to on the first partition, and a post-it note
detailing how to boot to the other on the monitor,
--
scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (408) 739-8858 http://www.doubleu.com/
<Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots
Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
Message-ID: <3670A759.7952997B@cs.cmu.edu>
From: David Patron <dpatron@cs.cmu.edu>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openstep 4.2 (Mach) Installation Problem
References: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981208011902.17096A-100000@ux9.cso.uiuc.edu> <ecbb2.567$L52.181@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> <74k7f1$21k$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 00:02:17 -0500
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:56:55 EDT
Organization: TWC Road Runner
Hi,
Can OpenStep be installed in a second hard drive (with its partition in the
first 2GB -- and not being concerned with the size of the main hard drive)?
Thanks
> What Michael said is also true, the OpenStep partition must be in the first
> 2GB, is limited to be <= that.
From: BillLeeX@cleaf.com
Subject: SoftPC on Black HW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Message-ID: <4Ywc2.47$T4.580@news15.ispnews.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:36:16 EDT
Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:36:16 GMT
Situation: Black Turbo Color
SoftPC from when I bought the first slab in 1991 (non-turbo).
Slab replaced w/ used turbo early 98.
OS 4.2
Still have the 2.1 loaded on internal disk, also location of
SoftPC. Running 4.2 off external 2gb scsi disk
I have a DOS application I wish to dabble in.
Tried executing SoftPC and get
Dec 12 10:25:50 Workspace: Cannot exec
/NeXT_2.1_Ext/LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC : Bad executable (or
shared library)
Can someone give me a roadmap for getting
either the existing version running
or
an upgrade path?
Thanks in advance.
Bill Lee
(take out the X to respond)
From: billg@microsoft.com (MevDev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Come to my new NeXT Forever site
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:00:06 -0600
Organization: [poster's organization not specified]
Message-ID: <billg-1212981100060001@dial-151.meltel.com>
I set up a NeXT forever site for everyone to benefit from. Please visit it at:
http://www.melrose.k12.mn.us/geek/index.html
If you have additions, subtractions, articles, or anything of use please
email me at : peecee@hempseed.com, or visit my site, there is a link at
the bottom of the page.
Thanks.
From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextMail and XFaces
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 20:44:38 -0500
Organization: phenix@interpath.com
Message-ID: <1djxyx3.1stlzih14ntizeN@roxboro0-047.dyn.interpath.net>
References: <1998Dec12.231142.1100@news.online.de>
?'D1cB]L9V=\OS(\8S,5
Mail-Copies-To: nobody
User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4b3
Thomas F. Unke <thf00@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Using EnhanceMail lets you add so called "XFaces" to you Mail (48x48 b/w
> picture) . Is this just a Next-feature or are there any other Mailreaders who
> can decipher this ? I just tried Netscape and there is no face visible.
It's visible in other programs (not Netscape, but others).
--
John Moreno
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextMail and XFaces
Date: 13 Dec 1998 02:44:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <74v9n8$6ln$1@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1djxyx3.1stlzih14ntizeN@roxboro0-047.dyn.interpath.net>
In article <1djxyx3.1stlzih14ntizeN@roxboro0-047.dyn.interpath.net> phenix@interpath.com (John
Moreno) writes:
>Thomas F. Unke <thf00@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Using EnhanceMail lets you add so called "XFaces" to you Mail (48x48 b/w
>> picture) Is this just a Next-feature or are there any other Mailreaders who
>> can decipher this ? I just tried Netscape and there is no face visible.
>
>
>It's visible in other programs (not Netscape, but others).
What I want to see is EnhanceMail's "X-Image-URL: <URL_to_face_image_file>"
implemented by all other e-mail clients.
Off-line reading doesn't immediately show faces, but face file requests
can be queued for downloading so the requests are processed
next time you go on-line (and your own face database constructed
automatically). And this will increasingly be a non-issue.
XFaces should be retired.
Encryption key can be transferred the same way.
It is obvious that golbal database attempts have failed for these
things.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <15188912920426@digifix.com>
Date: 13 Dec 1998 04:45:59 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <13296913525221@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Martial BONIOU <mboniou@club-internet.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WTB: NS3.3 user+dev+ EOF
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:05:38 +0000
Organization: Club-Internet (France)
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I am looking for NS3.3 User + Dev. + EOF + Disk Install at a very good
price.
Martial.
From: echo4@NOSPAM.erols.com --delete NOSPAM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: BitchX75p1 port finished --Openstep 4.2 M(Intel)
Date: 13 Dec 1998 17:27:11 GMT
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For those of you, who expressed your interest in BitchX?
I have release my second attempt at the port. Should be pretty stable. The
only thing that may not be working well is loading of modules. I am working
on that, has we speak. The only platform, I am supporting for the time
being is Openstep 4.2 on intel hardware. I don't have access to anything
else. Right now, it uploaded on to peak. You should be able to download it
from:
ftp ftp.next.peak.org
/pub/openstep/submissions/
I don't take any responsible for any problems, this port may present. Take
it and use it as is.
If you have any questions or comments, e-mail me. Enjoy.
Jay Lee
--
|========================================|
J. Lee
echo4@NOSPAM.erols.com --delete NOSPAM
NeXTMail,SUN,MIME
|========================================|
From: tom@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (Tom Hageman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app retriving mail
Date: 13 Dec 1998 17:44:18 GMT
Organization: Warty Wolfs
Sender: news@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (NEWS pusher)
Message-ID: <F3v8E0.Kq5@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl>
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luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) wrote:
> In <5bYb2.2041$c4.11804@news6.ispnews.com> paul wrote:
> > On 12/10/98, BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> > >Is there any way to get the mail app to retrieve mail from a mail
> > >server at my ISP? Basically, I'd like to fold the function of
> > >Popover intop Mail.app if that's possible.
[snip]
>
> As to the original post:
> Yes it is possible (rename MailFetch with a script that calls
> popOver and then runs the original MailFetch) but it might just
> be easier to use a cron job:
>
> 0,15,30,45 * * * * luomat /usr/local/bin/popOver
>
> change 'luomat' to your username
>
> This assumes that you have already used PopOver.app to configure the
> POP stuff.
Alternatively, assuming you use non dial-on-demand PPP to link with your ISP,
you can add something similar to the following to your /etc/ppp/ip-up script:
su your-username -c '/usr/local/bin/popOver &' &
so mail will be fetched automatically each time you bring up the ppp link.
Hope this helps,
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From: thf00@hotmail.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NextMail and XFaces
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:11:42 GMT
Organization: Dogbert Consulting
Sender: thomas@news.online.de (thomas)
Message-ID: <1998Dec12.231142.1100@news.online.de>
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Using EnhanceMail lets you add so called "XFaces" to you Mail (48x48 b/w
picture) . Is this just a Next-feature or are there any other Mailreaders who
can decipher this ? I just tried Netscape and there is no face visible.
From: Stefano Unternaehrer <unter@bci.ch>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DSP Port and Music Keyboard: what can I do?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:27:04 +0100
Organization: BCI Suisse
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Hi folks!
I have a turbo Black slab running NS 3.2. DSP port never used.
I'm planning to buy a Music Keyboard (Toshiba) having DSP.
I'm wondering if, with some magic cable, I can connect both and ....
And ??? What can then do?
Thank you for any suggestion!!!
Stefano
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Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3674eaae.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 14 Dec 98 10:38:38 GMT
stryker@montana.edu (Christian Stryker) wrote:
--- snip ---
>I'd be interested in a license as well. Just name a price or a
>source.
Sorry there never where such licenses. There was only a full version on a
3.5inch-diskette.
If somebody verifies that Metrosoft does not mind about releasing SimonSays
in the puplic domain, I would upload it to peanuts and peaks ...
Sven
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From: cdvorak@bgmhealth.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DSP Port and Music Keyboard: what can I do?
Date: 14 Dec 1998 15:14:56 GMT
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You can write some software to take the incoming stream
and convert it to Next Sound format. DSP code is not for
the faint of heart.
Having a DSP speak to a DSP is not a practical point here.
The Next DSP port is for an incoming stream to be interpreted
through the Motorola 56001 DSP. Your Toshiba keyboard
would not likely use a 56001, but rather another such as Texas
Instruments or some such. The Toshiba most likely has its own
sound format.
What you would most likely want is one of the Next-compatible AD
converters to convert an analog or digital signal to Next .snd format.
Sorry,
cdvorak@pepperdine.edu
In <3674CBD8.F76C93CF@bci.ch> Stefano Unternaehrer wrote:
> Hi folks!
> I have a turbo Black slab running NS 3.2. DSP port never used.
> I'm planning to buy a Music Keyboard (Toshiba) having DSP.
>
> I'm wondering if, with some magic cable, I can connect both and ....
> And ??? What can then do?
> Thank you for any suggestion!!!
>
> Stefano
>
>
>
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:54:06 +0100
Organization: Lavielle
Message-ID: <3675349E.B42C0D9C@lavielle.com>
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Sven Droll wrote:
> stryker@montana.edu (Christian Stryker) wrote:
> --- snip ---
> >I'd be interested in a license as well. Just name a price or a
> >source.
>
> Sorry there never where such licenses. There was only a full version on a
> 3.5inch-diskette.
>
> If somebody verifies that Metrosoft does not mind about releasing SimonSays
> in the puplic domain, I would upload it to peanuts and peaks ...
>
> ...
Sven is right! I remember that we once had at HSD (yes, some long time ago I
was working for HSD...) a version of SimonSays which was only available on a
floppy disk. Further, this SimonSays floppy was in some way protected (used data
on unusual sectors), so that you could only use an exact bitcopy of that floppy
for installation purposes. - However, what I'am talking about is the SimonSays
version which HSD once sold, maybe that the Metrosoft version is much newer (the
old HSD versions didn't run under NS3.3 any more) and doesn't have this copy
protection scheme.
Greetings Valentino
--
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Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co. Tel.: +49(0)40 / 65 80 8 - 997
Lotharstrasse 2b, D-22041 Hamburg, Germany Fax.: +49(0)40 / 65 808-202
http://www.lavielle.com/ mailto: vkyr@lavielle.com
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: bzip2 on NeXT?
Date: 14 Dec 1998 16:02:27 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Message-ID: <753cqj$7va$1@unlnews.unl.edu>
References: <74tc75$79r$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
In article <74tc75$79r$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) writes:
> Has anybody managed to compile bzip2 0.9.0c on NeXT 3.3?
I just uploaded binaries for bzip2 0.9.0c for both NEXTSTEP and OpenStep to
peak. Included in the package is the minor diff/patch required to build
bzip2. Appended here, also, is the patch I used.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu
Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
diff -d -w -u bzip2-0.9.0c_orig/Makefile bzip2-0.9.0c/Makefile
--- bzip2-0.9.0c_orig/Makefile Thu Oct 22 14:27:22 1998
+++ bzip2-0.9.0c/Makefile Mon Dec 14 10:03:21 1998
@@ -1,6 +1,10 @@
-CC=gcc
-CFLAGS=-Wall -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce
+ARCHS=-arch m68k -arch i386 -arch sparc
+CC=cc $(ARCHS)
+
+CFLAGS=-O -pipe -traditional-cpp -DNEXT3 -static
+#CFLAGS=-O -pipe -traditional-cpp -DNEXT4 -prebind
+
OBJS= blocksort.o \
huffman.o \
@@ -20,6 +24,7 @@
lib: $(OBJS)
rm -f libbz2.a
ar clq libbz2.a $(OBJS)
+ ranlib libbz2.a
test: bzip2
@cat words1
diff -d -w -u bzip2-0.9.0c_orig/bzip2.c bzip2-0.9.0c/bzip2.c
--- bzip2-0.9.0c_orig/bzip2.c Sun Oct 18 05:34:28 1998
+++ bzip2-0.9.0c/bzip2.c Mon Dec 14 09:19:21 1998
@@ -158,6 +158,30 @@
# include <sys/stat.h>
# include <sys/times.h>
+#if ! defined(_POSIX_SOURCE) && ( defined(NEXT3) || defined(NEXT4) )
+
+# include <libc.h>
+
+# ifndef S_ISREG
+# define S_ISREG(mode) (((mode) & (_S_IFMT)) == (_S_IFREG))
+# endif
+
+# ifndef S_IRUSR
+# define S_IRUSR _S_IRUSR /* read permission, owner */
+# endif
+
+# ifndef S_IWUSR
+# define S_IWUSR _S_IWUSR /* write permission, owner */
+# endif
+
+ struct utimbuf {
+ long actime; /* Access time */
+ long modtime; /* Modification time */
+ };
+
+#endif /* NEXT3 || NEXT 4 */
+
+
# define PATH_SEP '/'
# define MY_LSTAT lstat
# define MY_S_IFREG S_ISREG
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DSP Port and Music Keyboard: what can I do?
Date: 14 Dec 1998 16:41:50 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <913653710.667209@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca>
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In article <753a1g$tv$1@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
<cdvorak@bgmhealth.com> wrote:
>You can write some software to take the incoming stream
>and convert it to Next Sound format. DSP code is not for
>the faint of heart.
>
Oh, the code's not that bad. It's the documentation that can be bad!
Especially those DMA protocols...bugger up something and hose the DMA system.
Lots of reboots.
>Having a DSP speak to a DSP is not a practical point here.
>The Next DSP port is for an incoming stream to be interpreted
>through the Motorola 56001 DSP. Your Toshiba keyboard
>would not likely use a 56001, but rather another such as Texas
>Instruments or some such. The Toshiba most likely has its own
>sound format.
>
Well, the DSP port is simply a serial port; if you can grok the serial format
that the Toshiba thing spits out then I suppose you could do something with
it. Still, I'm not convinced that this is worthwhile.
I wonder if anybody's built a very simple S/PDIF adapter for the DSP port?
Hmmmm....
--
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: 14 Dec 1998 10:07:35 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <753k57$ja6@slip.net>
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>>I'd be interested in a license as well. Just name a price or a
>>source.
>
>Sorry there never where such licenses. There was only a full version on a
>3.5inch-diskette.
>
>If somebody verifies that Metrosoft does not mind about releasing SimonSays
>in the puplic domain, I would upload it to peanuts and peaks ...
>
>
I called Mary at Metrosoft and confirmed they are no longer selling SimonSays.
She said that the code is owned by some guy named Greg. His last name
escapes her. Consequently she didn't give me permission to post the
app on my web site.
But she said it would be OK to NeXTmail the pkg from the diskette and to
attach a license. She said she's been getting several inquiries and
doesn't have the time or interest to sell new copies.
Emmett
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From: edx@cc.usu.edu
Date: 12 Dec 98 18:34:45 MDT
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In <1998Dec12.231142.1100@news.online.de> Thomas F. Unke wrote:
> Using EnhanceMail lets you add so called "XFaces" to you Mail (48x48 b/w
> picture) . Is this just a Next-feature or are there any other Mailreaders who
> can decipher this ? I just tried Netscape and there is no face visible.
>
The X-Face format is not NeXT specific. The mail reader we used on our
SGI machines (ZMail, I believe), could display X-Face headers as little
images just like Mail.app.
edx
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newer Emacs compilation
Date: 14 Dec 1998 19:37:10 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
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ntakebay@guar.bio.indiana.edu (Naoki Takebayashi) wrote:
[ ... ]
> cc -c -Demacs -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -
> I/disk0b/home/ntakebay/dev/port/emacs-20 .3/src -g -O
> /disk0b/home/ntakebay/dev/port/emacs-20.3/src/syntax.c cc: Internal
> compiler error: program cc1obj got fatal signal 11
>
> Does anybody know what does this mean??
It means the compiler crashed. Try doing a make again to verify whether the
problem is reproducable (rather than a fluke). If that fails, try compiling
that one file without optimization.
> I was using cc from OS4.2/Dev. Has anyone successfully compiled for
> OS4.2-black?
I'm fairly sure I built an emacs 20.x rev for black, but I can't find it at
the moment. If you still have problems, bounce me mail and I'll look into
building another rev.
-Chuck
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----------------+-------------------+----------------------------
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From: Yi Liu <liuyi@enlucid.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:42:56 -0500
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Emmett McLean wrote:
> But she said it would be OK to NeXTmail the pkg from the diskette and to
> attach a license. She said she's been getting several inquiries and
> doesn't have the time or interest to sell new copies.
Emmett,
Just checking to make sure: this means that you can NeXTMail Simon
Says to anybody that asks you for it?
Thanks,
liuyi
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From: gary@spamsux.spiritwars.com (Gary)
Subject: Re: OpenStep for Solaris
Organization: http://www.troll.no/freebies/leafnode.html
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In article <73hgc8$j5a$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>, pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) wrote:
>Interesting - what actually use is this other than running rhe Apps that
>come with it ? Does it alllow the development/deployment of OpenStep
>apps under Solaris at all ?
Apparently yes. It includes Objective C library and header files. The reason
they discontinued its official existence was so they could push Java more... I
believe there still is a release of full-blow mach kernel-based OS of OpenStep
4.2 for sparc platforms. It's on Apple Enterprise page somewhere. I imagine
educational discounts are still available.
Thanks to help from some folks here I've managed to get OS 1.1 for Solaris up
and running ok. Does anyone know if there's some hack to allow virtual
desktops? Thanks.
-Gary
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From: akhtara@erols.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for NeXTSTEP 3.3
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 22:43:56 GMT
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Does anyone have a extra copy or willing to sell me the NeXTSTEP 3.3 media?
I just acquired one of the original NeXT cubes which has NeXTSTEP 2.1
installed. I am having a hard time finding any software or programs for NS
2.1.
Thanks
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: 15 Dec 1998 00:25:49 GMT
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In article <753k57$ja6@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes:
>>If somebody verifies that Metrosoft does not mind about releasing SimonSays
>>in the puplic domain, I would upload it to peanuts and peaks ...
>I called Mary at Metrosoft and confirmed they are no longer selling SimonSays.
>
>She said that the code is owned by some guy named Greg. His last name
>escapes her.
I believe his name is Greg Cockroft, who, besides SimonSays, worked also on
FrameMaker.
From: John David Adamski <jda@conglomerate.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: got a new NeXTStation & entar need new key
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:43:05 -0500
Organization: WWNET
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I had a NeXTstation then sold that and got another NeXTstation, I saved
all my files via enTar to back tapes. When I try and use enTar on the
new box it goes into demo mode.
I know I need a new key to unlock enTar, because the slab has a
different hostID. The company that made enTar is gone. How do I get
all my files restored or am I SOL?
I know Opener will extract most of the files, but enTar did something
with files names if the filename path was too long. Those are the files
I need <surprise surprise>
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From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
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Subject: Re: got a new NeXTStation & entar need new key
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You oughto to be able to find someone to show you how to reset the hostid
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From: daveyohill@earthNOSPAMlink.net (Davey O')
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In <36756A40.31DE7199@enlucid.com> Yi Liu wrote:
> Emmett McLean wrote:
> > But she said it would be OK to NeXTmail the pkg from the diskette and to
> > attach a license. She said she's been getting several inquiries and
> > doesn't have the time or interest to sell new copies.
>
> Emmett,
>
> Just checking to make sure: this means that you can NeXTMail Simon
> Says to anybody that asks you for it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> liuyi
>
I'm thinking Emmet is getting flooded with requests right about....now!
David
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: 14 Dec 1998 19:13:00 -0800
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>Emmett McLean wrote:
>> But she said it would be OK to NeXTmail the pkg from the diskette and to
>> attach a license. She said she's been getting several inquiries and
>> doesn't have the time or interest to sell new copies.
>
>Emmett,
>
>Just checking to make sure: this means that you can NeXTMail Simon
>Says to anybody that asks you for it?
>
Yes.
>
From: wiley_coyote@super.genius.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SIDPLAY port finished for OPENSTEP 4.2/Mach
Date: 15 Dec 1998 04:24:16 GMT
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My first attemt at porting SIDPLAY to OPENSTEP is complete.
SIDPLAY is a program which can play .sid files which have been
taken from Commodore-64 games. Some of these old tunes are
really well done, so I think it's worth a listen!!
At any rate, if you want to try it out it is at the following
URL:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/openstep/submissions/SidPlay1.0.m.I.b.tar.gz
It brings back a lot of old memories for me! Have fun!
Thanks,
Gregory John Casamento
-- Wiley --
gcasamen@NOSPAM.erols.com (delete NOSPAM) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP
Anything is better than Microsoft!! Live free or die!!!!!
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 04:30:56 +0100
From: strubi <Martin.Strubel!NOSPAM!@uni-konstanz.de>
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Subject: Re: DSP Port and Music Keyboard: what can I do?
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> >
>
> Well, the DSP port is simply a serial port; if you can grok the serial format
> that the Toshiba thing spits out then I suppose you could do something with
> it. Still, I'm not convinced that this is worthwhile.
> I wonder if anybody's built a very simple S/PDIF adapter for the DSP port?
> Hmmmm....
>
yes, i have. there is some chip from crystal semiconductor (CS 8412)
which makes it pretty easy to hook up a DAT or whatever to the DSP port
via a Toslink. I´m still working on it though, since i want to get all
that status information from the SP/DIF processed, too. maybe someone
else has done some work on it ? (I´m lacking of time..)
Strubi
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: 14 Dec 1998 21:40:16 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
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In article <754aad$j22$1@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>
>I believe his name is Greg Cockroft, who, besides SimonSays, worked also on
>FrameMaker.
>
Couldn't find him through www.switchboard.com
Emmett
From: scott@nospam.doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: bzip2 on NeXT?
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In-reply-to: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de's message of 12 Dec 1998 09:15:17 GMT
Date: 14 Dec 98 08:33:20
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In article <74tc75$79r$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>,
schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) writes:
Has anybody managed to compile bzip2 0.9.0c on NeXT 3.3?
I get:
cc -Wall -O -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -c bzip2.c
bzip2.c: In function `notAStandardFile':
bzip2.c:776: warning: implicit declaration of function `S_ISREG'
bzip2.c: In function `copyDatePermissionsAndOwner':
bzip2.c:787: storage size of `uTimBuf' isn't known
bzip2.c:794: warning: implicit declaration of function `chmod'
bzip2.c:805: warning: implicit declaration of function `utime'
bzip2.c:787: warning: unused variable `uTimBuf'
bzip2.c: In function `setInterimPermissions':
bzip2.c:816: `S_IRUSR' undeclared (first use this function)
bzip2.c:816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
bzip2.c:816: for each function it appears in.)
bzip2.c:816: `S_IWUSR' undeclared (first use this function)
bzip2.c: In function `compress':
bzip2.c:896: warning: implicit declaration of function `isatty'
gmake: *** [bzip2] Error 1
Any ideas what to change in order to make it compile?
I would search /usr/include/ for S_ISREG, and find it in
/usr/include/bsd/sys/stat.h. Since it's in a POSIX-related #ifdef,
I'd assume that it's possible that I won't be able to use it. Then
I'd look closely at the S_ISREG define, and see that it may just be a
POSIX version of existing functionality, and copy that #define into an
appropriate bzip source file, preferrably some sort of core header
file so everyone gets it.
Then I'd apply the same sequence of events to S_IRUSR and S_IWUSR.
And if the constants those functions reference aren't found, I'd copy
their #define lines, too. [In general, I've found that the S_* stuff
_works_, it's just not normally defined anywhere.]
--
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From: Pegasus <veasara@tin.it>
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:00:50 +0100
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PROGETTO!
LEGGIMI CON ATTENZIONE SENZA SALTARE NEMMENO UNA PAROLA E…
E’ sufficiente trovare 10 / 15 persone (ti spiegherò poi come) che
abbiano una buona apertura mentale e l’intelligenza di
comprendere un metodo matematico infallibile. Di primo acchito si
potrebbe avere l’impressione di avventurarsi in un progetto
impossibile. Io ti garantisco che lavorando poche ore al computer si
raggiungono risultati inimmaginabili, io sono un’agente di
commercio da vent’anni, negli ultimi mesi ho dedicato moltissimo tempo a
questo progetto - all’inizio ero scettico ma i risultati
mi hanno fatto cambiare opinione – oggi, comodamente seduto a casa mia,
raggiungo risultati di reddito migliori di quelli che
ottenevo lavorando 12-14 ore al giorno sempre in auto e alle prese con
clienti che…
In Internet ci sono ogni giorno migliaia di nuovi ingressi, migliaia di
persone che come noi navigano alla ricerca di informazioni,
contatti, amicizie e a volte ci sfiorano opportunità che non cogliamo
perché presi dalle mille preoccupazioni e attività quotidiane.
Questo progetto funziona benissimo per tutti ma più ancora a chi
lavorando in ufficio ha modo di usare il computer e conosce
molte persone anche al di fuori dell’azienda per cui lavora e il
passaparola è la migliore pubblicità. Io lo faccio da casa.
Avventurarti in questo progetto non ti costerà nulla e ti farà
guadagnare moltissimo, con i primi risultati ti accorgerai che
diventerà per te una “droga” e impegnerai sempre più tempo in modo
piacevole e autonomo, non dovrai MAI rendere conto (se
non a te stesso) del tuo operato a NESSUNO! Se questo mio messaggio ti
ha incuriosito scrivimi e ti darò le necessarie
istruzioni per iniziare il progetto.
Nella richiesta di informazioni come oggetto metti PROGETTO
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<BR><B><FONT COLOR="#3333FF">LEGGIMI CON ATTENZIONE SENZA SALTARE NEMMENO
UNA PAROLA E…</FONT></B>
<BR>E’ sufficiente trovare 10 / 15 persone (ti spiegherò poi come)
che abbiano una buona apertura mentale e l’intelligenza di
<BR>comprendere un metodo matematico infallibile. Di primo acchito si potrebbe
avere l’impressione di avventurarsi in un progetto
<BR>impossibile. Io ti garantisco che lavorando poche ore al computer si
raggiungono risultati inimmaginabili, io sono un’agente di
<BR>commercio da vent’anni, negli ultimi mesi ho dedicato moltissimo tempo
a questo progetto - all’inizio ero scettico ma i risultati
<BR>mi hanno fatto cambiare opinione – oggi, comodamente seduto a casa
mia, raggiungo risultati di reddito migliori di quelli che
<BR>ottenevo lavorando 12-14 ore al giorno sempre in auto e alle prese
con clienti che…
<BR>In Internet ci sono ogni giorno migliaia di nuovi ingressi, migliaia
di persone che come noi navigano alla ricerca di informazioni,
<BR>contatti, amicizie e a volte ci sfiorano opportunità che non
cogliamo perché presi dalle mille preoccupazioni e attività
quotidiane.
<BR>Questo progetto funziona benissimo per tutti ma più ancora a
chi lavorando in ufficio ha modo di usare il computer e conosce
<BR>molte persone anche al di fuori dell’azienda per cui lavora e il passaparola
è la migliore pubblicità. Io lo faccio da casa.
<BR>Avventurarti in questo progetto non ti costerà nulla e ti farà
guadagnare moltissimo, con i primi risultati ti accorgerai che
<BR>diventerà per te una “droga” e impegnerai sempre più
tempo in modo piacevole e autonomo, non dovrai MAI rendere conto (se
<BR>non a te stesso) del tuo operato a NESSUNO! Se questo mio messaggio
ti ha incuriosito scrivimi e ti darò le necessarie
<BR>istruzioni per iniziare il progetto.
<P>Nella richiesta di informazioni come oggetto metti PROGETTO
<BR><A HREF="mailto:veasara@tin.it">veasara@tin.it</A>
<P><I>Ciao a presto. PEGASUS</I>
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From: josborn@depauw.edu
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Subject: Re: SoftPC on Black HW
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:31:52 GMT
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In article <4Ywc2.47$T4.580@news15.ispnews.com>,
BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> Situation: Black Turbo Color
> SoftPC from when I bought the first slab in 1991 (non-turbo).
> Slab replaced w/ used turbo early 98.
> OS 4.2
> Still have the 2.1 loaded on internal disk, also location of
> SoftPC. Running 4.2 off external 2gb scsi disk
>
> I have a DOS application I wish to dabble in.
>
> Tried executing SoftPC and get
> Dec 12 10:25:50 Workspace: Cannot exec
> /NeXT_2.1_Ext/LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC : Bad executable (or
> shared library)
>
> Can someone give me a roadmap for getting
> either the existing version running
> or
> an upgrade path?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill Lee
>
> (take out the X to respond)
>
Well not really but I got the same errors on when I tried to load SoftPC on
my 4.1 box. Must be a Library somwhere that is different.
Jon
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From: josborn@depauw.edu
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Subject: Imagewriter II
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:19:54 GMT
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I have an apple Imagewriter II the one with the color ribon. I would like to
hook it up to my NeXT box. Are there dirvers or a simple way that I missed
to hook up the printer?
Thanks,
Jon
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DSP Port and Music Keyboard: what can I do?
Date: 15 Dec 1998 17:12:02 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <913741922.29393@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca>
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In article <3675D7F0.5B20F0BC@uni-konstanz.de>,
strubi <Martin.Strubel!NOSPAM!@uni-konstanz.de> wrote:
>
>yes, i have. there is some chip from crystal semiconductor (CS 8412)
>which makes it pretty easy to hook up a DAT or whatever to the DSP port
>via a Toslink.
Nifty. Alas I don't have time to do stuff like this these days; if the
power supply on my Indigo ever comes back to life I'll likely just use that.
--
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Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Imagewriter II
Date: 15 Dec 1998 16:00:32 -0500
Organization: Program of Computer Graphics -- Cornell University
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josborn@depauw.edu writes:
> I have an apple Imagewriter II the one with the color ribon. I
> would like to hook it up to my NeXT box. Are there dirvers or a
> simple way that I missed to hook up the printer?
I don't think there's a *simple* way. NeXT really loves PostScript. It
is designed to print in one of two ways: either to a printer with a
PostScript interpreter built in (i.e. not your ImageWriter), or using
its own software rasterizer (RIP) with the special NeXT printers
(color inkjet or monochrome laser).
I believe it's possible to use other non-PostScript printers by using
GhostScript, or perhaps by exercising considerable ingenuity with the
NeXT's RIP. But you're not likely to find an existing driver for the
ImageWriter, which is pretty slow, low resolution, low contrast, etc.
Strangely enough, I think an ImageWriter II is about as saleable as an
early laserprinter (e.g. Apple LaserWriter Plus). You might be able to
manage an almost-even swap for one of these, which would be much
faster and more convenient, while giving you much higher print
quality. But it is a monochrome printer.
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From: Klaus.Loefflad@agent.fho-emden.de (Klaus Loefflad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.next.software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.software,de.comm.software.crosspoint,de.comm.software.forte-agent,de.comm.software.mailreader,de.comm.software.mailreader.misc,de.comm.software.mailreader.pegasus,de.comm.software.mailserver
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 5 news!
Followup-To: de.test
Date: 15 Dec 1998 22:18:35 GMT
Organization: Web-Performing by ATC-Electronics ;))
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> Internet Explorer 5 news!
>
> Important news about Internet Explorer 5:
>
> http://www.dds.nl/~brk
[X] geh weg !!!!
(ich hab' doch schon so viele spammer im Killfile, dachte ich hätte
alle erwischt... ;)) Wieso häufen sich die Spam-Mails zur Zeit so
explosionsartig?
F'UP2 'DE.TEST' ;)))
Schiff Ahoi!
Kapitän Klaus
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From: "John E. Hayes III" <jeh25@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: rc5des client bug? (NS 3.3 on a '030-25 'cube)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:54:59 -0500
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From what I hear, the rc5des client runs fine on 68040-25 NeXT boxen,
but
I get a "Bad CPU type in executable on my 68030-25 NeXTcube.
Any thoughts?
--
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Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
References: <74pm64$1iao$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu> <gqQ8hX200iWV0Aidw0@andrew.cmu.edu> <stryker-1112981109120001@news.montana.edu> <3674eaae.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <3675349E.B42C0D9C@lavielle.com>
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <36778ca6.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 16 Dec 98 10:34:14 GMT
Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> wrote:
> Sven is right! I remember that we once had at HSD (yes, some long
> time ago I was working for HSD...) a version of SimonSays which was
> only available on a floppy disk. Further, this SimonSays floppy was
> in some way protected (used data on unusual sectors), so that you
> could only use an exact bitcopy of that floppy for installation
> purposes. - However, what I'am talking about is the SimonSays version
> which HSD once sold, maybe that the Metrosoft version is much newer
> (the old HSD versions didn't run under NS3.3 any more) and doesn't
> have this copy protection scheme.
The (very new, <1.5 years) version I got from Metrosoft has no
copy-protection and came on a normal 1.44MB-Disk. It can be easily copied and
packaged ... A license is not needed ...
Sven
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <367792b8.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 16 Dec 98 11:00:08 GMT
luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL) wrote:
>
>You oughto to be able to find someone to show you how to reset the
>hostid
or take a look at http://members.xoom.com/eulendieb/enb_discl.html and follow
two links ...
Sven
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Subject: Re: OS4.2 Apache 1.3.x
Date: 16 Dec 1998 11:23:07 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
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In <74phgj$3p9$1@news.digifix.com> Scott Anguish wrote:
> On 12/10/98, TjL wrote:
> >In <366FB11D.91DF514F@uksd.com> Uwe Kraul wrote:
> >> Looking for Apache 1.3.x running under OS4.2 (Mach). Somebody has
> >> successfully compiled this stuff, or has an URL where I can find
> these
> >> things?
> >
> >ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/apache/apache.1.3b
> 5.NIHS.
> >bs.tar.gz
> >ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/apache/apache.1.3b
> 5.README
> >
> >that's a beta release, not the final release.
> >
> >Scott Anguish wrote some very helpful tips on compiling Apache which
> you
> >should be able to find at http://www.stepwise.com (namely
> >http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Workbench/BuildingApache.html but if
> you
> >haven't checked out the site recently, you should.... goto the home
> page and
> >then follow the 'More Articles' link to get to the Apache article,
> and a ton
> >more)
>
>
> Just to follow up on this... the most current version (1.3.3
> as I recall) compiled out of the box on OpenStep 4.2, but there was
> problem running some included CGI stuff on it, at least I noticed this
> on one machine.
>
Same here. I remember someone else asking the same thing so
I downloaded it compiled - executed fine. I didn't test the cgi' s though.
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From: tom@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (Tom Hageman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC on Black HW
Date: 16 Dec 1998 19:06:17 GMT
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josborn@depauw.edu wrote:
> In article <4Ywc2.47$T4.580@news15.ispnews.com>,
> BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> > Situation: Black Turbo Color
> > SoftPC from when I bought the first slab in 1991 (non-
> > turbo).
> > Slab replaced w/ used turbo early 98.
> > OS 4.2
> > Still have the 2.1 loaded on internal disk, also
> > location of
> > SoftPC. Running 4.2 off external 2gb scsi disk
> >
> > I have a DOS application I wish to dabble in.
> >
> > Tried executing SoftPC and get
> > Dec 12 10:25:50 Workspace: Cannot exec
> > /NeXT_2.1_Ext/LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC : Bad executable
> > (or shared library)
> >
> > Can someone give me a roadmap for getting
> > either the existing version running
> > or
> > an upgrade path?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Bill Lee
> >
> > (take out the X to respond)
> >
>
> Well not really but I got the same errors on when I tried to load
> SoftPC on my 4.1 box. Must be a Library somwhere that is different.
Hmmm, SoftPC 2 still works on my 4.2 box. Let's see:
$ otool -Lv /LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC
/LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC:
/usr/shlib/libmusic_s.A.shlib (minor version 8)
/usr/shlib/libdsp_s.A.shlib (minor version 17)
/usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib (minor version 52)
/usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib (minor version 44)
`libmusic' sounds just like the thing NeXT would have dropped in OPENSTEP, so
let's check:
$ /usr/etc/lsbom /usr/lib/NextStep/BaseSystem.bom | grep /usr/shlib
./usr/shlib 40755 0/0
./usr/shlib/libFoundation_s.E.shlib 100555 0/0 515052 854383799
./usr/shlib/libIndexing_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 476236 899248632
./usr/shlib/libInterceptor_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 79584 3626376807
./usr/shlib/libMedia_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 452384 2899153424
./usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib 100755 0/0 2154052 2275832952
./usr/shlib/libdbkit_s.A.shlib 100555 0/0 377944 2452658139
./usr/shlib/libdsp_s.A.shlib 100555 0/1 198848 3421896026
./usr/shlib/libni_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 75248 736362092
./usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib 100555 0/0 1044024 1147278758
Well, no libmusic there. Maybe in the 3.3 distribution?
$ /usr/etc/lsbom /NEXTSTEP/usr/lib/NextStep/BaseSystem.bom | grep /usr/shlib
./usr/shlib 40755 0/0
./usr/shlib/libFoundation_s.E.shlib 100555 0/0 491684 846783137
./usr/shlib/libIndexing_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 475604 2744496095
./usr/shlib/libInterceptor_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 79384 3304685
./usr/shlib/libMedia_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 452236 2631034700
./usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib 100755 0/0 2145288 573449229
./usr/shlib/libdbkit_s.A.shlib 100555 0/0 376192 3787548372
./usr/shlib/libdsp_s.A.shlib 100555 0/1 198848 4075521027
./usr/shlib/libmusic_s.A.shlib 100555 0/1 834580 858125104
./usr/shlib/libni_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 75248 924383585
./usr/shlib/libnw_s.A.shlib 100555 0/0 209640 436166923
./usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib 100555 0/0 1008676 623493362
Bingo!
So, if you still have NS3.3 or earlier hanging around, you should be able to
get SoftPC working again by copying its version of libbmusic_s.A.shlib to
/usr/shlib/ on your OPENSTEP box.
Hope this helps,
Tom.
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From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: rc5des client bug? (NS 3.3 on a '030-25 'cube)
Date: 17 Dec 1998 01:22:33 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <759mcp$l97$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
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yes it runs fine on NeXTslabs/cubes with 040.. just not the fast
unfortunately..
why don't you get the source and recompile it for your machine???
godwin
John E. Hayes III (jeh25@cornell.edu) wrote:
: From what I hear, the rc5des client runs fine on 68040-25 NeXT boxen,
: but
: I get a "Bad CPU type in executable on my 68030-25 NeXTcube.
: Any thoughts?
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From: BillLeeX@cleaf.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC on Black HW
Message-ID: <PR_d2.811$aY5.4989@news3.ispnews.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:26:39 EDT
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 03:26:39 GMT
Tom;
THANKS! That did the trick!
Regards,
Bill Lee
In article <F411Kw.8KK@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl>, you wrote:
>josborn@depauw.edu wrote:
>> In article <4Ywc2.47$T4.580@news15.ispnews.com>,
>> BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
>> > Situation: Black Turbo Color
>> > SoftPC from when I bought the first slab in 1991 (non-
>> > turbo).
>> > Slab replaced w/ used turbo early 98.
>> > OS 4.2
>> > Still have the 2.1 loaded on internal disk, also
>> > location of
>> > SoftPC. Running 4.2 off external 2gb scsi disk
>> >
>> > I have a DOS application I wish to dabble in.
>> >
>> > Tried executing SoftPC and get
>> > Dec 12 10:25:50 Workspace: Cannot exec
>> > /NeXT_2.1_Ext/LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC : Bad executable
>> > (or shared library)
>> >
>> > Can someone give me a roadmap for getting
>> > either the existing version running
>> > or
>> > an upgrade path?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> > Bill Lee
>> >
>> > (take out the X to respond)
>> >
>>
>> Well not really but I got the same errors on when I tried to load
>> SoftPC on my 4.1 box. Must be a Library somwhere that is different.
>
>Hmmm, SoftPC 2 still works on my 4.2 box. Let's see:
>
>$ otool -Lv /LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC
>/LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC:
> /usr/shlib/libmusic_s.A.shlib (minor version 8)
> /usr/shlib/libdsp_s.A.shlib (minor version 17)
> /usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib (minor version 52)
> /usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib (minor version 44)
>
>`libmusic' sounds just like the thing NeXT would have dropped in OPENSTEP, so
>let's check:
>
>$ /usr/etc/lsbom /usr/lib/NextStep/BaseSystem.bom | grep /usr/shlib
>./usr/shlib 40755 0/0
>./usr/shlib/libFoundation_s.E.shlib 100555 0/0 515052 854383799
>./usr/shlib/libIndexing_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 476236 899248632
>./usr/shlib/libInterceptor_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 79584 3626376807
>./usr/shlib/libMedia_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 452384 2899153424
>./usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib 100755 0/0 2154052 2275832952
>./usr/shlib/libdbkit_s.A.shlib 100555 0/0 377944 2452658139
>./usr/shlib/libdsp_s.A.shlib 100555 0/1 198848 3421896026
>./usr/shlib/libni_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 75248 736362092
>./usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib 100555 0/0 1044024 1147278758
>
>Well, no libmusic there. Maybe in the 3.3 distribution?
>
>$ /usr/etc/lsbom /NEXTSTEP/usr/lib/NextStep/BaseSystem.bom | grep /usr/shlib
>./usr/shlib 40755 0/0
>./usr/shlib/libFoundation_s.E.shlib 100555 0/0 491684 846783137
>./usr/shlib/libIndexing_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 475604 2744496095
>./usr/shlib/libInterceptor_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 79384 3304685
>./usr/shlib/libMedia_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 452236 2631034700
>./usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib 100755 0/0 2145288 573449229
>./usr/shlib/libdbkit_s.A.shlib 100555 0/0 376192 3787548372
>./usr/shlib/libdsp_s.A.shlib 100555 0/1 198848 4075521027
>./usr/shlib/libmusic_s.A.shlib 100555 0/1 834580 858125104
>./usr/shlib/libni_s.A.shlib 100755 0/0 75248 924383585
>./usr/shlib/libnw_s.A.shlib 100555 0/0 209640 436166923
>./usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib 100555 0/0 1008676 623493362
>
>Bingo!
>
>So, if you still have NS3.3 or earlier hanging around, you should be able to
>get SoftPC working again by copying its version of libbmusic_s.A.shlib to
>/usr/shlib/ on your OPENSTEP box.
>
>Hope this helps,
>Tom.
>
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From: dean@u.washington.edu (Dean Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Openstep for Solaris
Date: 17 Dec 1998 05:18:49 GMT
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I just installed OPENSTEP 1.1 (off peanuts.org) for Solaris 2.6 today.
All went well and I get the WorkspaceManager and all the goodies that
it comes with, but now I have a problem.
The problem is that I can't seem to install any other software. I
downloaded OmniWeb2.5 that was listed for NIHS platforms. After
unzipping and untarring (using gtar) The .app said that it was not for
that OS. So I thought there may have been a problem and downloaded
some other files that were listed as NIHS installables. None of them
worked.
Am I missing something as far as the install goes? Also if it is a
.pkg extension what do I do? There is no Installer.app on OPENSTEP 1.1
Any info is appreciated on installing apps or Solaris info in general.
Thanks in advance,
dean johnson
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From: Kay Schulz <kay@ciemed.nus.edu.sg>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openstep for Solaris
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:02:22 +0800
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Dean Johnson wrote:
>
> I just installed OPENSTEP 1.1 (off peanuts.org) for Solaris 2.6 today.
> All went well and I get the WorkspaceManager and all the goodies that
> it comes with, but now I have a problem.
>
> The problem is that I can't seem to install any other software. I
> downloaded OmniWeb2.5 that was listed for NIHS platforms. After
> unzipping and untarring (using gtar) The .app said that it was not for
> that OS. So I thought there may have been a problem and downloaded
> some other files that were listed as NIHS installables. None of them
> worked.
nihs means
next hw
intel hardware
hp hardware
or sun hardware
well these apps are based on the mach on that hardware
openstep for solaris runs on solaris
>
> Am I missing something as far as the install goes? Also if it is a
> .pkg extension what do I do? There is no Installer.app on OPENSTEP 1.1
>
> Any info is appreciated on installing apps or Solaris info in general.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> dean johnson
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3678d462.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 17 Dec 98 09:52:34 GMT
dean@u.washington.edu (Dean Johnson) wrote:
>I just installed OPENSTEP 1.1 (off peanuts.org) for Solaris 2.6 today.
>All went well and I get the WorkspaceManager and all the goodies that
>it comes with, but now I have a problem.
>
>The problem is that I can't seem to install any other software. I
>downloaded OmniWeb2.5 that was listed for NIHS platforms. After
>unzipping and untarring (using gtar) The .app said that it was not for
>that OS. So I thought there may have been a problem and downloaded
>some other files that were listed as NIHS installables. None of them
>worked.
That is the bad thing about Openstep 1.1 for Solaris. All the nice NeXT-apps
to not work, cause they are compiled for NeXTstep 3.x/Openstep 4.x for SPARC
which is a different product ...
Too bad :-(
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From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com>
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Subject: OpenWrite
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:37:07 +0100
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Where can I get all the necessary filters for OpenWrite?
(For instance MS Word)
Henry
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From: Stefanie Bruninghaus <steffi+@pitt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:25:41 -0500
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Henry Koplien wrote:
>
> Where can I get all the necessary filters for OpenWrite?
> (For instance MS Word)
http://www.peak.org/next/apps/LighthouseDesign/
==> Converter Installer
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From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openstep for Solaris
Date: 17 Dec 1998 15:16:13 GMT
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dean@u.washington.edu (Dean Johnson) writes:
> I just installed OPENSTEP 1.1 (off peanuts.org) for Solaris 2.6 today.
> All went well and I get the WorkspaceManager and all the goodies that
> it comes with, but now I have a problem.
But how ? I got the tar file - but where do I unpack it ? Its not
as if it';s an installer package or anything... and there appears to be
no README file to describe it.
-bat.
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll)
Message-ID: <3679244a.0@uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: 17 Dec 98 15:33:30 GMT
pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) wrote:
>dean@u.washington.edu (Dean Johnson) writes:
>> I just installed OPENSTEP 1.1 (off peanuts.org) for Solaris 2.6
>> today. All went well and I get the WorkspaceManager and all the
>> goodies that it comes with, but now I have a problem.
>
>But how ? I got the tar file - but where do I unpack it ? Its not as
>if it';s an installer package or anything... and there appears to be
>no README file to describe it.
I am not totally sure, but I think you can unpack it e.g. to /tmp and then
you move into the packages-top-directory and make a pkgadd -d . which
installs all packages. Installation-requirements are at least descriped in
the distribution to Solaris 1.0 from peanuts.org. If you have got Solaris 2.4
or 2.5.1 you need some patches descriped in this distribution, too.
It cannot be too difficult, cause I have done it, too ;-).
Do not forget to reboot your Solaris-machine, if you want the CDE-Login to
show Openstep/Lighthouse-Desktop as another choice to OpenWin and CDE.
Sven
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From: York <yblock@home.com>
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Subject: Information about NS3.3
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Hi,
I am looking for NS3.3, I have an hp712/80 and I really want to run NS3.3 on
it. I posted this message a month ago with no results. Can anybody point me
where I can buy it?...Thanks for you time!!!
York
From: Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de>
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Subject: Re: SoftPC on Black HW
Date: 17 Dec 1998 22:30:37 +0100
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tom@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (Tom Hageman) writes:
> josborn@depauw.edu wrote:
> > In article <4Ywc2.47$T4.580@news15.ispnews.com>,
> > BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> > > Situation: Black Turbo Color
> > > SoftPC from when I bought the first slab in 1991 (non-
> > > turbo).
> > > Slab replaced w/ used turbo early 98.
> > > OS 4.2
[...]
> > > /NeXT_2.1_Ext/LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC : Bad executable
> > > (or shared library)
[...]
> So, if you still have NS3.3 or earlier hanging around, you should be able to
> get SoftPC working again by copying its version of libbmusic_s.A.shlib to
> /usr/shlib/ on your OPENSTEP box.
Isn't this supposed to be in libMedia now?
If so, a softlink might work (for the NS3.3-impaired).
Regards,
Timm
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Information about NS3.3
Date: 18 Dec 1998 00:08:28 GMT
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Didn't see your previous message.
You may be able to purchase it from <www.blackholeinc.com> if they have any in
stock.
If not, keep an eye on comp.sys.next.marketplace--copies come up for sale there
occasionally.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: fluids@aol.com (Fluids)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTstep startup
Date: 18 Dec 1998 05:39:57 GMT
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Hey everybody, i have a problem with my NeXT machine:
i'm running 3.3 on a turbo color, and when i turn it on, it goes thru the
motions like normal, but when it looks for the domain, it can't find it. It
keeps looking and looking and never gives up. because of this NeXTstep never
starts up fully and i can't do anything to try and fix it. how do i fix it if i
can? The computer isn't even on a network
From: "T. Viravaidya" <Oyll@prodigy.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,pnw.forsale,seattle.forsale.computers,seattle.forsale.misc,uwash.forsale
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:42:06 -0600
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As far as I know, Greg Cockroft has had the license of the
materials reverted back to him if Mary and Metrosoft have
decided to not license it anymore. Greg is the original author
of the SimonSays software, and it was called Agog Software
that he founded back in the early 90's or earlier. I have heard
he is doing other voice recognition software and thus may
not be interested in giving out the source or licensing it. Call
him and find out...
\t
Robert Singleton wrote:
> Does anyone have a license for the SimonSays application for
> the NeXT that they would like to part with? I'm running NS3.2
> on black hardware. I have a demo version that runs in a limited
> capacity for 30 minutes, but would like to get it running for
> real. I've been told that Metrosoft no longer sells this
> software. Or, perhaps you could recommend another voice
> recognition interface. Thanks very much.
>
> --
> Robert Singleton work: (206) 543-9640
> Department of Physics fax : (206) 685-0635
> University of Washington office: B416 Phys & Astronomy Bldg.
> Box 351560 bobs@terrapin.phys.washington.edu
From: armins@hrz1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (Armin Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: how to distinguish original 3rd party NeXT software?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:45:33 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt
Message-ID: <3679668a.10197892@news.tu-darmstadt.de>
Hello,
recently I've seen somebody offering 3rd party software for NeXT
systems, e.g. MediaStation, WriteNow, Concurrence.
The guy - a former technician with a NeXT distributor here in Germany
- offered me the original manuals toegether with completely unlabeled
floppy disks!?
He told me, that they received the newest software versions via email,
and that they've put them on blank floppy disks or on MO disks. This
way the customer always received the newest software versions.
Does that sound reliable? Has anybody ever heard of that practice?
I don't want to claim him a liar, the guy was really nice and helpful,
but the above seems somewhat unusual to me.
It would be nice to hear from somebody,
Armin
From: "T. Viravaidya" <Oyll@prodigy.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:03:00 -0600
Organization: Prodigy Services Corp
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If this is the case, I would be very, very surprised. First off
I remember, and have copies of the HSD versions of the
SimonSays, and also before. Greg went to a simple encrypting
drag and drop file key password scheme and that was right
before he got in bed with HSD on selling it for him. What
you say absolutely makes NO sense to me, and I highly doubt
it. Then again, anything is possible.
\t
Valentino Kyriakides wrote:
> Sven Droll wrote:
>
> > stryker@montana.edu (Christian Stryker) wrote:
> > --- snip ---
> > >I'd be interested in a license as well. Just name a price or a
> > >source.
> >
> > Sorry there never where such licenses. There was only a full version on a
> > 3.5inch-diskette.
> >
> > If somebody verifies that Metrosoft does not mind about releasing SimonSays
> > in the puplic domain, I would upload it to peanuts and peaks ...
> >
> > ...
>
> Sven is right! I remember that we once had at HSD (yes, some long time ago I
> was working for HSD...) a version of SimonSays which was only available on a
> floppy disk. Further, this SimonSays floppy was in some way protected (used data
> on unusual sectors), so that you could only use an exact bitcopy of that floppy
> for installation purposes. - However, what I'am talking about is the SimonSays
> version which HSD once sold, maybe that the Metrosoft version is much newer (the
> old HSD versions didn't run under NS3.3 any more) and doesn't have this copy
> protection scheme.
>
> Greetings Valentino
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From: danpenny@sk.sympatico.ca (Dan Penny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep startup
Date: 18 Dec 98 06:21:22
Organization: SaskTel - Sympatico
Message-ID: <913983682mnewsdanpenny@sk.sympatico.ca>
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>
> Hey everybody, i have a problem with my NeXT machine:
>
> i'm running 3.3 on a turbo color, and when i turn it on, it goes thru the
> motions like normal, but when it looks for the domain, it can't find it. It
> keeps looking and looking and never gives up. because of this NeXTstep never
> starts up fully and i can't do anything to try and fix it. how do i fix it if i
> can? The computer isn't even on a network
Had the same problem with mine, which came off a network.
It's looking for the domains (duh) but there aren't any because
you ain't on the network, so it sits and thinks, then sits and thinks s'more.
get the idea. Anyway I solved the problem by returning to the fellow I
purchased it from, who promptly plugged in the ethernet, which gave
it its' domains when it booted, he then configured it NOT to be so
silly NeXT time, unplugged it and handed it back. I took it home where it now
cozily boots properly everytime.
If you can't go through the above, (which is the easiest) then you'll
have to edit the domains file in single user mode.
Know thats not alot but its a start.
Dan
From: ginz@enteract.com (ginz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep startup
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:19:52 GMT
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I seem to remember having this problem
and I think if you press the CONTROL and C keys at the same
time when it is looking for the domains it will kill this process and
continue to boot up normally.
I may be wrong but its worth a try.
ginz...
On 18 Dec 1998 05:39:57 GMT, fluids@aol.com (Fluids) wrote:
>Hey everybody, i have a problem with my NeXT machine:
>
> i'm running 3.3 on a turbo color, and when i turn it on, it goes thru the
>motions like normal, but when it looks for the domain, it can't find it. It
>keeps looking and looking and never gives up. because of this NeXTstep never
>starts up fully and i can't do anything to try and fix it. how do i fix it if i
>can? The computer isn't even on a network
From: sumit@omni.cc.purdue.edu (Sumitrajit Dhar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Kermit question
Date: 18 Dec 1998 09:55:53 -0500
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Hello:
Just got a NeXT station color turbo slab running NS3.3 home. I am
connecting to school using kermit. The connection works fine except
when I use send or receive commands. After I get the message to
escape back to local kermit, hitting the escape key puts "# N3" on
the screen and the computer hangs. If I retry the escape key it says
"too many retries".
Anybody know what the problem is?
TIA,
Sumit
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,pnw.forsale,seattle.forsale.computers,seattle.forsale.misc,uwash.forsale
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: 18 Dec 1998 07:08:48 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
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In article <3679EB2D.6DC2E47E@prodigy.net>,
T. Viravaidya <Oyll@prodigy.net> wrote:
>As far as I know, Greg Cockroft has had the license of the
>materials reverted back to him if Mary and Metrosoft have
>decided to not license it anymore. Greg is the original author
>of the SimonSays software, and it was called Agog Software
>that he founded back in the early 90's or earlier. I have heard
>he is doing other voice recognition software and thus may
>not be interested in giving out the source or licensing it. Call
>him and find out...
>
The Metrosoft package doesn't come with source.
Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: 18 Dec 1998 07:10:53 -0800
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In article <3679F014.29294A6F@prodigy.net>,
T. Viravaidya <Oyll@prodigy.net> wrote:
>If this is the case, I would be very, very surprised. First off
>I remember, and have copies of the HSD versions of the
>SimonSays, and also before. Greg went to a simple encrypting
>drag and drop file key password scheme and that was right
>before he got in bed with HSD on selling it for him. What
>you say absolutely makes NO sense to me, and I highly doubt
>it. Then again, anything is possible.
I can confirm that what Sven wrote is true.
Emmett
From: smarqz@BUGSLIFEunm.edu (Steve M)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep startup
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:01:52 GMT
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Here's the info from NeXTAnswers:
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1295.htmld/1295.html
Steve
From: tom@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (Tom Hageman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC on Black HW
Date: 18 Dec 1998 19:03:15 GMT
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Timm Wetzel <twetzel@gwdg.de> wrote:
> tom@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (Tom Hageman) writes:
>
> > josborn@depauw.edu wrote:
> > > In article <4Ywc2.47$T4.580@news15.ispnews.com>,
> > > BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> > > > Situation: Black Turbo Color
> > > > SoftPC from when I bought the first slab in 1991
> > > > (non- turbo).
> > > > Slab replaced w/ used turbo early 98.
> > > > OS 4.2
> [...]
> > > > /NeXT_2.1_Ext/LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC : Bad
> > > > executable (or shared library)
> [...]
> > So, if you still have NS3.3 or earlier hanging around, you should
> > be able to get SoftPC working again by copying its version of
> > libbmusic_s.A.shlib to /usr/shlib/ on your OPENSTEP box.
>
> Isn't this supposed to be in libMedia now?
> If so, a softlink might work (for the NS3.3-impaired).
I don't think so...
$ class-dump /usr/shlib/libMedia_s.A.shlib | grep '^@interface'
@interface NXLiveVideoView:View
@interface N3DCamera:View
@interface N3DContextManager:Object
@interface N3DLight:N3DShape
@interface N3DMovieCamera:N3DCamera
@interface N3DRenderPanel:Panel
@interface N3DRotator:Object
@interface N3DShader:Object
@interface N3DShape:Object
@interface N3DRIBImageRep:NXImageRep
@interface N3DRenderClient:Object
@interface N3DServerList:List
@interface N3DServer:Object
$ class-dump /usr/shlib/libmusic_s.A.shlib | grep '^@interface'
@interface Conductor:Object
@interface Conductor(Private)
@interface Envelope:Object
@interface FilePerformer:Performer
@interface FileWriter:Instrument
@interface Instrument:Object
@interface Instrument(Private)
@interface Midi:Object
@interface Note:Object
@interface Note(Private)
@interface NoteFilter:Instrument
@interface NoteReceiver:Object
@interface NoteReceiver(Private)
@interface NoteSender:Object
@interface NoteSender(Private)
@interface Orchestra:Object
@interface Orchestra(Private)
@interface Part:Object
@interface Part(Private)
@interface PartPerformer:Performer
@interface PartRecorder:Instrument
@interface Partials:WaveTable
@interface Partials(Private)
@interface PatchTemplate:Object
@interface Performer:Object
@interface Performer(Private)
@interface Samples:WaveTable
@interface Score:Object
@interface Score(Private)
@interface ScorePerformer:Object
@interface ScorePerformer(Private)
@interface ScoreRecorder:Object
@interface ScoreRecorder(Private)
@interface ScorefilePerformer:FilePerformer
@interface ScorefilePerformer(Private)
@interface ScorefileWriter:FileWriter
@interface SynthData:Object
@interface SynthData(Private)
@interface SynthInstrument:Instrument
@interface SynthInstrument(Private)
@interface SynthPatch:Object
@interface SynthPatch(Private)
@interface SynthPatch(SynthPatchLoad)
@interface Timbre:Object
@interface TuningSystem:Object
@interface UnitGenerator:Object
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@interface Scl2add2UG:UnitGenerator
@interface Scl2add2UGxxx:Scl2add2UG
@interface Scl2add2UGxxy:Scl2add2UG
@interface Scl2add2UGxyx:Scl2add2UG
@interface Scl2add2UGxyy:Scl2add2UG
@interface Scl2add2UGyxx:Scl2add2UG
@interface Scl2add2UGyxy:Scl2add2UG
@interface Scl2add2UGyyx:Scl2add2UG
@interface Scl2add2UGyyy:Scl2add2UG
@interface SnoiseUG:UnitGenerator
@interface SnoiseUGx:SnoiseUG
@interface SnoiseUGy:SnoiseUG
@interface UnoiseUG:UnitGenerator
@interface UnoiseUGx:UnoiseUG
@interface UnoiseUGy:UnoiseUG
@interface DBFm1vi:Fm1vi
@interface DBWave1v:DBWave1vi
@interface DBWave1vi:Wave1vi
@interface DBWave2vi:SynthPatch
@interface Fm1:Fm1i
@interface Fm1i:SynthPatch
@interface Fm1i(Private)
@interface Fm1v:Fm1vi
@interface Fm1vi:Fm1i
@interface Fm1vi(Private)
@interface Fm2cnvi:SynthPatch
@interface Fm2cvi:SynthPatch
@interface Fm2pnvi:SynthPatch
@interface Fm2pvi:SynthPatch
@interface Pluck:SynthPatch
@interface Simp:SynthPatch
@interface Wave1:Wave1i
@interface Wave1i:SynthPatch
@interface Wave1i(Private)
@interface Wave1v:Wave1vi
@interface Wave1vi:Wave1i
@interface Wave1vi(Private)
--Tom.
From: "Roman Ivanov" <ivanov@online.ee>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,cs.software,de.comm.software.crosspoint,de.comm.software.forte-agent,de.comm.software.mailreader.misc,de.comm.software.mailreader.pegasus,de.comm.software.mailserver,de.comm.software.misc,de.comm.software.newsserver,de.comm
Subject: CDR soft
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 21:12:29 +0200
Message-ID: <367aa99a.0@news.infonet.ee>
Organization: INFONET.EE Usenet News Server
Hello!
I am looking for cd-r burning program like Disk juggler but with more
capabilities.
So, i have 2 and more CDR's at each machine - and i found only juggler (some
of CDR's is not the same). If you know one any program please mail me to
Estoniacd@hotmail.com
Thanks!!!!
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: how to distinguish original 3rd party NeXT software?
Date: 18 Dec 1998 19:11:04 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
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armins@hrz1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (Armin Schmidt) wrote:
[ ... ]
> He told me, that they received the newest software versions via email,
> and that they've put them on blank floppy disks or on MO disks. This
> way the customer always received the newest software versions.
>
> Does that sound reliable? Has anybody ever heard of that practice?
Certainly. Heck, I've "shipped" software to customers via email myself. It
worked great when you've got a small, well-connected (Internet-wise) userbase
and it's not worth the time and cost to produce shrink-wrapped packaging.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away.
----------------+-------------------+----------------------------
You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC on Black HW
Date: 18 Dec 1998 22:49:55 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <914021394.923532@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca>
References: <4Ywc2.47$T4.580@news15.ispnews.com> <F411Kw.8KK@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl> <tqfd85i8nia.fsf@lena01.mpibpc.gwdg.de> <F4685o.J5u@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl>
Cache-Post-Path: watserv4.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca
In article <F4685o.J5u@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl>,
Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl> wrote:
>
>$ class-dump /usr/shlib/libmusic_s.A.shlib | grep '^@interface'
>@interface Conductor:Object
>@interface Conductor(Private)
There's some of this in MusicKit's /usr/local/lib/libmusickit.a.
BTW, what's "class-dump"? I had to make do with otool (but this is
under 3.3).
--
David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: ydufour@wanadoo.fr (Yves Dufour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DIAGRAM!
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:41:12 +0100
Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider)
Message-ID: <1dk8ouq.126zhv82sowqkN@tntarch3-12.abo.wanadoo.fr>
User-Agent: MacSOUP/F-2.4b4
Does anyone knows if DIAGRAM! software is still available on the market
? which company developed it ? do they have a web site ?
--
YD
From: sumit@omni.cc.purdue.edu (Sumitrajit Dhar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP question
Date: 19 Dec 1998 00:16:15 -0500
Organization: Purdue University
Sender: sumit@purdue.edu
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <75fcqv$jkp@omni.cc.purdue.edu>
Hi:
I just installed ppp-2.2 with PPPmonitor as the front end
on a color turbo slab running NS3.3. The PPPMonitor window
opens with the following messages everytime:
(/usr/adm/ppp2.2.log)
sh: ^F/usr/adm/ppp2.2.log: not found
'tail' command terminated.
But it is writing to the log file like it should. When I
try to connect it dials through the modem and after hanging
for a minute or two diconnects. The following are the final
three lines of the log file:
Dec 18 14:44:12 nala pppd[237]: Serial connection established.
Dec 18 14:44:13 nala pppd[237]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 18 14:44:13 nala pppd[237]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufb
Dec 18 14:44:13 nala pppd[237]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic 0x3407015c> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 18 14:44:41 nala last message repeated 9 times
Dec 18 14:44:44 nala pppd[237]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Dec 18 14:44:44 nala pppd[237]: Connection terminated.
Dec 18 14:44:44 nala pppd[237]: Serial link is not 8-bit clean:
Dec 18 14:44:44 nala pppd[237]: All received characters had bit 7 set to 0
Dec 18 14:44:46 nala pppd[237]: Exit.
Anybody know what the problem is?
Thanks in advance,
Sumit
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DIAGRAM!
Date: 19 Dec 1998 13:32:36 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <1dk8ouq.126zhv82sowqkN@tntarch3-12.abo.wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <19981219083236.00840.00000158@ng-bw1.aol.com>
DIAGRAM! is still available for sale in Asia. Elsewhere in the world, it's
essentially freely distributed. 2 user license.
<www.lighthouse.com> is possibly still the web site for them, but it aliases to
a Sun Java site I think.
You can download Diagram and all of the other available Lighthouse apps from
ftp://ftp.peak.org/pub/next as well as license strings to make them work.
I'd guess that there's a European site, but I'm not sure if LEO/Peanuts has
restored their NeXT stuff yet or not.
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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From: Dan Thorson <danthor@toledotel.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP with SoftPC
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 14:09:45 -0700
Organization: Structured Network Systems, Inc.
Message-ID: <367C1619.430A@toledotel.com>
References: <366E4FC2.571D229A@eso.org> <74m2ok$ram@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
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Yes! You're the dude, man.
> If one performed these steps, I surmise one would discover the thirty-day
> demo cycle was being reset every Saturday at midnight, thus allowing for
> essentially unlimited use of SoftPC in demo mode.
>
> I hope this satisfies someone's purely intellectual curiosity.
>
> Alex
> --
> Alexander Levine
> Philosophy Department
> Lehigh University
> ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: "steve" <steven32@gte.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next app - SQL
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 23:18:40 -0800
Organization: gte.net
Message-ID: <75hfhr$69q$1@news-2.news.gte.net>
I have developed this app which runs on OpenStep. Does anyone
know the best way to post it to the web so people could download it to
their OpenStep workstation.
Thank You
SQL ACCESS
For OpenStep
This product allows users to access and update Oracle and Informix
databases via SQL statements. It provides the ability to connect to several
databases simultaneously (Informix or Oracle). This product provides the
following features:
Multiple Database Connections
The user may connect to several databases at once and display result sets
from any of these connections at the same time. You are also allowed to
connect to the same database any number of times.
Text Windows
The SQL statements are loaded into a window where the text may be edited
using cut and paste techniques. Tabs are provided for multiple statements.
Comments are allowed within the SQL.
Quick List of SQL Statements
Provides a list of the last 10 SQL statements. Click on the file name
given to the SQL clause and the SQL is loaded into the SQL Window.
Table List
Provides a list of tables in the database. Click on a table and a select
clause is created for the user.
Connection Options
A user may connect to the database by using a login panel or by opening an
Enterprise Object Model. A user may also drag a model into an icon well to
select a new database.
Evaluate SQL Statements
Evaluate to a table view
Evaluate to a delimited text file
Preferences
The user may specify the following preferences:
Oracle Login Parameters
Informix Login Parameters
Rows to fetch
Delimiter for exported files
Requirements
Informix and Oracle database adaptors (EOF 2.0).
OpenStep Operating System.
From: "cherry" <b5@mail.gm.com.tw>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: iii
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:00:18 +0800
Organization: DCI HiNet
Message-ID: <75hljq$5d0@netnews.hinet.net>
rtyyt
From: "cherry" <b5@mail.gm.com.tw>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: new and free
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:09:33 +0800
Organization: DCI HiNet
Message-ID: <75hsel$d47@netnews.hinet.net>
thanks for yr information, wl try.
From: satan@hell.home.com (Michael Lankton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What to use for .avi files
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References: <hGvf2.2902$HN5.16946@news12.ispnews.com>
Message-ID: <Jnzf2.94$xq4.199@news.rdc1.ne.home.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:49:29 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:49:29 PDT
Organization: @Home Network
In <hGvf2.2902$HN5.16946@news12.ispnews.com> BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> I have a couple of movies that are in "avi" format. Is there any
> way to view these on my NeXT?-
Xanim running inside one of the xwindows apps works fine. Xanim is on
ftp.peak.org as well as Peanuts
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <13296913525221@digifix.com>
Date: 20 Dec 1998 04:45:18 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <6039914130021@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html
WebObjects Documentation
http://gemma.apple.com/techinfo/techdocs/enterprise/enterprise.html
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
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From: Will Gilbert
Subject: Re: MahJong.app on Openstep
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Message-ID: <F4C24p.74z@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:55:37 GMT
References: <914267246.329078@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca>
Organization: University of Waterloo
Keywords: MahJong
David Evans writes
> In article <F4Bv1B.nv4@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>, <Will Gilbert> wrote:
> >Thanks to the following discussion, I can now get Jean-Marie Bettems
> >shareware MahJong.app running on Black Openstep 4.2.
>
> Is this the one with the really nice graphics but painfully slow redraws?
> What's it like under 4.2?
It does have really nice graphics, but I would not call the redraws slow.
It seems the same speed on Openstep 4.2 as Nextstep 3.2.
It is available at:
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/games/apps/MahJong.app.tar.gz
or
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/NEXTSTEP/games/board/MahJong.1.0.N.b.tar.gz
I don't think it is on the PEAK NeXTStep Archive.
There is a MahJong on PEAK. It is
http://www.peak.org/next/apps/games/m68k_only/NeXTmj.N.b.tar.gz
That I find really slow, and the graphics are not very good either (more like
PC graphics).
--
**************************************************************
Will Gilbert, Chair, Pure Math Dept, Univ of Waterloo, Canada
http://math.uwaterloo.ca/~wgilbert/
wgilbert@uwaterloo.ca
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MahJong.app on Openstep
Date: 21 Dec 1998 23:21:08 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <914282468.241618@watserv4.uwaterloo.ca>
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In article <F4C24p.74z@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>, <Will Gilbert> wrote:
>
>It does have really nice graphics, but I would not call the redraws slow.
>It seems the same speed on Openstep 4.2 as Nextstep 3.2.
>
Hmmm...perhaps I have an older version. I will check into it after the
holidays when I'm near my black hardware again.
Thanks.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: daveyohill@earthNOSPAMlink.net (Davey O')
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sound/Recording Software
Date: 20 Dec 1998 13:09:30 GMT
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On the side I build custom acoustic, electro-acoustic guitars and mandolins.
I'd like to record some samples of the instruments and place them on the web
site which I'm developing for my lutherie business. So I guess I need to know
what software I should download for my NeXT Turbo Color slab (64/540). I'll
need to perform the following:
1. Recording (via mic input not MIDI (YET!!))
2. Manipulation/Mixdown
3. Conversion to .wav files
If anyone else is posting NeXT recorded sound files to the web I'd appreciate
a tip or two. Also if any of the NeXT music/sound crowd are still doing stuff
with there NeXT boxes I'd love to here about whats going on.
BeST,
David
Remove NOSPAM to reply of course
NeXTMAIL anticipated; MIME tolerated:-)
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sound/Recording Software
Date: 20 Dec 1998 10:59:15 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <75jhe3$hor@slip.net>
References: <75isua$jf2$1@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
In article <75isua$jf2$1@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
Davey O' <daveyohill@earthNOSPAMlink.net> wrote:
>On the side I build custom acoustic, electro-acoustic guitars and mandolins.
>I'd like to record some samples of the instruments and place them on the web
>site which I'm developing for my lutherie business. So I guess I need to know
>what software I should download for my NeXT Turbo Color slab (64/540). I'll
>need to perform the following:
>
First of all, I'd recommend you visit :
http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~mrozek
and
http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~mrozek/nextmusic/ProgramList.html
That will give you a starting place when it comes to NeXT
musical software. Take a look at FAQ.NxtSndMusProgs3.5.html
Also, I find sndtools kit very useful ...
ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/NeXT/sndutil.1.3.tar.Z
especially the program
sndscale which is useful for enhancing the gain on snd files.
A must if you're recording guitar.
>1. Recording (via mic input If you can find one ... not MIDI (YET!!))
I recorded a few songs with a $20 Sony microphone and put them
on www.slip.net/~emclean. With that set up I can only record
at 8100 hz.
Now, there are some NeXT peripherals which are well suited to recording
at 41400 hz. But they are hard to come by.
A few months ago I purchased a MetaResearch DigitalEars for $250
and aquired a Sure condensor microphone. To use this set up effectively
I have to feed the signal into a preamp. With sndscale the volume
of the snd files I create is fine, but it seems that my preamp must
be week because some very soft sounds are inaudible. That might be
good though since I don't want people to hear the hard drive in
my cube while recording. Anyway, I get 41400 hz recordings.
>2. Manipulation/Mixdown
Look at Mixview? I haven't experimented with it.
I have MetaResearch's SoundWorks, but I haven't been able to record
two tracks into one snd file, but you are supposed to be able to.
I haven't had the time to really look into it. There are big differences
between the early and later versions of SoundWorks, but I again
I haven't looked into it.
>3. Conversion to .wav files
I'd suggest GISO which is a NeXT GUI front end to SOX.
It's very reliable.
SOX is a very good command line tool for converting snd files.
>If anyone else is posting NeXT recorded sound files to the web I'd appreciate
>a tip or two. Also if any of the NeXT music/sound crowd are still doing stuff
>with there NeXT boxes I'd love to here about whats going on.
>
A recent musical submission was made to c.s.n.a.
No time to look at it though.
There is a fair amount of work in moving MusicKit
to Rhapsody.
Try subscribing to :
mkdist-request@ccrma.Stanford.edu
Emmett
From: lacourse@mail.midusa.net (Dan LaCourse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Kermit question
Date: 20 Dec 1998 22:05:34 GMT
Organization: Netspace Internet Services
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <75jsbe$dk513@news.midusa.net>
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On my slab, you "escape" back to local kermit by typing CNTL-] followed by
he letter "c".
In <75dqdp$pco@omni.cc.purdue.edu> Sumitrajit Dhar wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Just got a NeXT station color turbo slab running NS3.3 home. I am
> connecting to school using kermit. The connection works fine except
> when I use send or receive commands. After I get the message to
> escape back to local kermit, hitting the escape key puts "# N3" on
> the screen and the computer hangs. If I retry the escape key it says
> "too many retries".
>
> Anybody know what the problem is?
>
> TIA,
> Sumit
>
>
--
Best wishes,
Dan LaCourse
From: Martin Mocker <martin@knopf.ping.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Change default dictionary ?
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:10:05 +0100
Organization: CS Department, University of Dortmund, Germany
Message-ID: <367E2C8D.2BB1@knopf.ping.de>
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Hi everyone,
does anyone know how to change the default spell checker dictionary that
is selected by
default when choosing spell checker in the menu ?
In concrete I want to change from one german Spell checker dictionary to
another
(I know this is possible, because I somehow schnaged from the default
spell checker dictionary English (NeXT) to a german one)...
Thanks in advance,
Martin Mocker
From: kb7sqi@pindigital.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: irc clients
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:49:47 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <74nqub$lpm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
References: <ubcb2.570$L52.174@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> <85kb2.635$o44.1450658@newshog.newsread.com> <rckb2.585$L52.192@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> <74n6di$4dc$1@winter.news.rcn.net>
In article <74n6di$4dc$1@winter.news.rcn.net>, "JWL" <echo4@mail.idt.net>
wrote:
> If I have time this weekend, I'm attempt to port BitchX (if terminal based)
> to OpenStep, post where I can pick up the source.
>
> Jay
> echo4@erols.com
> NeXT, SUN, MIME OK
Hi Jay, You can get BitchX at ftp.bitchx.com. The lastest I believe is
ircii-pana-75b?? I noticed that an earlier version had been compiled for
Rhapsody on ftp.cs-tu-berlin.de. I had no problems compiling the latest
version of ircII-4.4B just 2 weeks ago on my Openstep 4.2 system. But, I
haven't got BitchX or Epic to compile yet. Hope that helps. Take care &
Happy Holidays!
----
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From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: nntp server
Date: 21 Dec 1998 17:16:40 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
Message-ID: <75lvpo$290$1@news.spacelab.net>
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josborn@depauw.edu wrote:
>Is there a public nntp server out there in the world that I can use news
>grazer with; dejanews is driving me crazy.
Somebody else repeatedly asking questions. Why, do you think the answers
will have changed?
depauw.edu should provide an NNTP server for you to use; failing that, try
talking to the people running news.ind.net (who is providing name service to
depauw.edu). Failing _that_, go spend $20 per month for an account at a
local ISP who will give your NNTP access.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away.
----------------+-------------------+----------------------------
You have come to the end of your journey. Survival is everything.
From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Next app - SQL
Date: 21 Dec 1998 17:05:49 GMT
Organization: Spacelab.net Internet Access
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"steve" <steven32@gte.net> wrote:
> I have developed this app which runs on OpenStep. Does anyone
> know the best way to post it to the web so people could download it to
> their OpenStep workstation.
Set up a web server, create a site with content describing the product and
maybe a trial version, and talk to Scott Anguish about having an announcement
sent on on c.s.n.announce and/or StepWise.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | Yeah, yeah-- disclaim away.
----------------+-------------------+----------------------------
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From: BillLeeX@cleaf.com
Subject: What to use for .avi files
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Message-ID: <hGvf2.2902$HN5.16946@news12.ispnews.com>
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:36:13 GMT
I have a couple of movies that are in "avi" format. Is there any
way to view these on my NeXT?
Running: Turbo Color slab, OS4.2
Thanks,
Bill Lee
(Take out the X to respond.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Will Gilbert
Subject: MahJong.app on Openstep (was SoftPC on Black HW)
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Message-ID: <F4Bv1B.nv4@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 18:22:23 GMT
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Organization: University of Waterloo
Thanks to the following discussion, I can now get Jean-Marie Bettems
shareware MahJong.app running on Black Openstep 4.2.
I just copied /usr/shlib/libmusic_s.A.shlib from Nextstep 3.x to /usr/shlib/
on Openstep 4.2. This now allows MahJong to run.
Tom Hageman wrote:
> $ otool -Lv /LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC
> /LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC:
> /usr/shlib/libmusic_s.A.shlib (minor version 8)
> /usr/shlib/libdsp_s.A.shlib (minor version 17)
> /usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib (minor version 52)
> /usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib (minor version 44)
>
> `libmusic' sounds just like the thing NeXT would have dropped in OPENSTEP,
>
> So, if you still have NS3.3 or earlier hanging around, you should
> be able to get SoftPC working again by copying its version of
> libbmusic_s.A.shlib to /usr/shlib/ on your OPENSTEP box.
--
**************************************************************
Will Gilbert, Chair, Pure Math Dept, Univ of Waterloo, Canada
http://math.uwaterloo.ca/~wgilbert/
wgilbert@uwaterloo.ca
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MahJong.app on Openstep (was SoftPC on Black HW)
Date: 21 Dec 1998 19:07:26 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
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In article <F4Bv1B.nv4@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>, <Will Gilbert> wrote:
>Thanks to the following discussion, I can now get Jean-Marie Bettems
>shareware MahJong.app running on Black Openstep 4.2.
>
Is this the one with the really nice graphics but painfully slow redraws?
What's it like under 4.2?
--
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Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Subject: Spreadsheet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: oweng@best.com (Geoffrey D. Owen)
Date: 21 Dec 1998 21:00:43 GMT
Message-ID: <367eb6fb$0$198@nntp1.ba.best.com>
I'm looking for a specific spreadsheet program. I think it was called
Questor. Does anyone know where I can find this program?
Thanks,
Geoff
ps. I've already check the peak site. Also I'm not getting ParaSheet
or Quantrix confused.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Will Gilbert
Subject: Re: Spreadsheet
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:20:10 GMT
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Geoffrey D. Owen writes
> I'm looking for a specific spreadsheet program. I think it was called
> Questor. Does anyone know where I can find this program?
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/productivity/spreadsheet/commercial/Questo
r.3.2.NIHS.b.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/productivity/spreadsheet/commercial/Questo
r.3.2.README
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/productivity/spreadsheet/commercial/Questo
r_API.3.2.sd.tar.gz
--
**************************************************************
Will Gilbert, Chair, Pure Math Dept, Univ of Waterloo, Canada
http://math.uwaterloo.ca/~wgilbert/
wgilbert@uwaterloo.ca
From: Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help startproblem
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 04:15:38 GMT
Organization: EUnet Belgium, Leuven, Belgium
Message-ID: <75or9e$paj$1@news3.Belgium.EU.net>
Hoi,
Again with the same problem - must I abondon the Next :-(((
I am looking for a person in Belgium who would help ... if
the problem is no problem at all please .. give the
solution :-))
In Next rom monitor I have:
Next Mach 3.3
Fpu version 0x0
memory 16 m
available 14.07 m
using 102 buffers etc..
scsi controller 53c90a target 7 as sc0 at 0x2014000
microp. nr .. as sd0 at target 0 lun 0 -- this was the
startdisk
Maxtor nr .. as sd1 at sc0 target1 lun 0
sony cd rom as sd0 at sc0 target 3 lun 0
quantum as sd3 at sc0 target 6 lun 0
generic scsi device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
idem sg1 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
idem sg2 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
idem sg2 etc...
idem sg 3 etc...
odc0 at 0x2012000
od0 at odc0 slave 0
od1 at odc0 slave 1
------- and nothing more ...
I have no idea what to do .. help or gave me a indication
who could help me.
Thanks
arnold
From: Sven Davies <svend@lubypublishing.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Running but not routing.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:07:38 -0600
Organization: Luby Publishing Inc.
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Recently I lost my Root password and had to reboot my NeXT into the Rom
Monitor to eventually reestablish a new Root Password.
I don't know how I could have made any changes, or effected the normal
boot routine, but when I reboot the machine, it kept giving me an error,
can't locate 207.blah.blah.blah the IP Address for the machine.
I canceled past it and it booted just fine, apache booted and my
multihoned domains also came up. I though everything was fine.
Everything seemed to be running ok, except my machine wasn't visible
outside of the local network!
What happened?
How can I fix it?
I understand that I can adjust the routing with netstat. Is there a way
that I can fix this on the machine without working directly off it? It
is co-located at an office on the otherside of town.
Any help is appreciated.
--
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From: Valentino Kyriakides <1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Debuggers, SuperDebugger 3.9 for Openstep
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:11:08 +0100
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Message-ID: <367F9A6C.4AD8400@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
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Alberto Ortega Socorro wrote:
> I am looking for a graphical debugger for Openstep 4.1 for Mach. My first
> choice was SuperDebugger 3.9 but it doesnÂt work. Anyway if you acceed to the
> SuperDebugger 3.9 page of the server www.scribex .com (yet accesible from
> sites like Altavista) it says: "system requirements are NEXTSTEP 3.1 or
> later, or OPENSTEP 4.x for MACH" which suggests that exist SuperDebugger 3.9
> for Openstep.
>
> Is this true? If so, how can I get it?
>
> If not, please recommend me a good graphical debugger for Openstep.
>
Take one (the one you need) of the following PB bundles and you should then have
the ability
to debug via PB, Edit etc. like under NS3.3 via a graphical GDB Panel:
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep/developer/bundles/GDBbundle.1.0.I.b.tgz
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep/developer/bundles/GDBbundle.1.0.N.b.tgz
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep/developer/bundles/GDBbundle.1.0.NIS.b.tgz
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep/developer/bundles/GDBbundle.1.0.S.b.tgz
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/peanuts/OpenStep/developer/bundles/GDBbundle.1.0.s.tgz
I sometimes use SD 3.9 under NS3.3 and it works as aspected. AFAIK, there is
only one SD 3.9
fat-binary version. Maybe you have to use some older OS/NS shared libraries for
it to run, or the
gdb version from OS 4.1 is different than from NS3.3?
Since I don't use OS 4.x I can't tell you anything about concrete about your SD
problems.
Best somebody replies, who uses SD 3.9 under OS 4.x without problems, or who
solved the problems
you mentioned.
However, you can try the above mentioned GDBbundle, or use GDB via Emacs.app or
a shell. Note that he last alternative is by far the most powerfull one, since
graphical debugger frontends usually don't offer this power (at
least under NS/OS).
Hope this helps somehow?
Valentino
--
Valentino Kyriakides Email: 1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
From: Valentino Kyriakides <1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simon Says license
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:30:51 +0100
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Message-ID: <367F9F0B.899D1156@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
References: <74pm64$1iao$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu> <gqQ8hX200iWV0Aidw0@andrew.cmu.edu> <stryker-1112981109120001@news.montana.edu> <3674eaae.0@uni-wuerzburg.de> <3675349E.B42C0D9C@lavielle.com> <3679F014.29294A6F@prodigy.net>
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"T. Viravaidya" wrote:
> If this is the case, I would be very, very surprised. First off
> I remember, and have copies of the HSD versions of the
> SimonSays, and also before. Greg went to a simple encrypting
> drag and drop file key password scheme and that was right
> before he got in bed with HSD on selling it for him. What
> you say absolutely makes NO sense to me, and I highly doubt
> it. Then again, anything is possible.
>
> \t
> ...
> ....
Believe it or not, when we got a version of SimonSays from HSD US on a floppy, we
made some copies the
usual way (dragging the floppy contents to some temp folder, then from a temp folder
back to a new formated floppies). We were not able to install (copy) the license key
file from any of these new created floppies, it doesn't work!
Only after making full copies with dd (bit for bit...), we were able to install HSDs
SimonSays version from those
duplicated floppies. Thats what I remember.
Valentino
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Valentino Kyriakides Email: 1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What to use for .avi files
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In <Jnzf2.94$xq4.199@news.rdc1.ne.home.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
> In <hGvf2.2902$HN5.16946@news12.ispnews.com> BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> > I have a couple of movies that are in "avi" format. Is there any
> > way to view these on my NeXT?-
>
> Xanim running inside one of the xwindows apps works fine. Xanim is on
> ftp.peak.org as well as Peanuts
What X program are you using to do this?
TjL
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Subject: Re: What to use for .avi files
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In <ey_f2.813$Pd5.1068288@newshog.newsread.com> TjL wrote:
> What X program are you using to do this?-
cubX
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: has anyone compiled zsh 3.1.5 for Intel?
Organization: would be nice
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Just wondering if any zsh-users might be using zsh.3.1.5 under
NeXTStep/OpenStep, and be willing to save me the trouble of compiling it (I
haven't reinstalled the dev tools after my last reinstall)
Thanks
TjL
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From: Blake Patterson <bwpatter@bellatlantic.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Wanted: BOOK, "The NeXT Book"
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 00:04:22 -0500
Organization: www.blakeSPOT.com
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I'm looking to buy a book that came out long before the first NeXT
machine actually shipped called The NeXT Book or The NeXT Bible or
something. Fairly thick paperback, black partially.
Thanks.
bp
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WingZ under OpenStep 4.2
Date: 22 Dec 1998 01:12:38 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Message-ID: <19981221201238.00840.00001610@ng-bw1.aol.com>
I've posted on this previously (and still have a copy of the answer which
worked previously--Thanks! Scott, that was you, right?) but I've since switched
hard drives and apparently haven't got something set up right.
WingZ isn't working under the Me account which I've installed it under, but
does work as Root using OpenSesame. I've turned on Public Windowserver in
Preferences, but this doesn't change anything.
I'm guessing I must've missed a 3.0 or 3.1 shlib, but am not finding it on
initial comparison--any ideas?
The other thought, and this worries me is that I've installed the MusicKit 4.2
(previously I'd used 4.0) could this be conflicting?
William
William Adams
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Running but not routing.
Date: 22 Dec 1998 19:20:02 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <75pnh2$5c4@slip.net>
References: <3680182A.24E0@lubypublishing.com>
In article <3680182A.24E0@lubypublishing.com>,
Sven Davies <svend@lubypublishing.com> wrote:
>Recently I lost my Root password and had to reboot my NeXT into the Rom
>Monitor to eventually reestablish a new Root Password.
>
This is sort of a FAQ, check out luomat's home page, http://www.peak.org/~luomat
You can fix things and the worst case is that you will have to
recreate your user accounts.
Emmett
>I don't know how I could have made any changes, or effected the normal
>boot routine, but when I reboot the machine, it kept giving me an error,
>can't locate 207.blah.blah.blah the IP Address for the machine.
>
You should always keep a backup copy of /etc just for times like this.
>I canceled past it and it booted just fine, apache booted and my
>multihoned domains also came up. I though everything was fine.
>Everything seemed to be running ok, except my machine wasn't visible
>outside of the local network!
>
>What happened?
>
Did you go into HostManager and look around ?
>How can I fix it?
>
>I understand that I can adjust the routing with netstat. Is there a way
>that I can fix this on the machine without working directly off it? It
>is co-located at an office on the otherside of town.
>
>Any help is appreciated.
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From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 05:38:38 GMT
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Organization: Global Online Japan
In <74h647$uuk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> josborn@depauw.edu wrote:
> Is there a public nntp server out there in the world that I can use news
> grazer with; dejanews is driving me crazy.
There are.
There are lists of them around... I can't seem to find the email I had
describing them... but a search engine on 'open nntp server' might help
Most of them are terribly slow, however.
TjL
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From: "Andy Dunn" <andydunn@op.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Wanted: BOOK, "The NeXT Book"
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:46:20 -0500
Organization: OpNet -- Greater Philadelphia Internet Service
Message-ID: <75rkrn$nqb$1@picasso.op.net>
References: <368079D6.B0C1428B@bellatlantic.net>
You seem to be mixing the two.
"The NeXT Book" came out first. It was a sleek black book by Bruce Webster
(Addison-Wesley, ISBN 0-201-15851-X) and covered up to NeXTStep 0.9. It was
only 387 pages.
"The NeXT Bible" had a gray cover (I can't find my copy now...) and was MUCH
thicker. A lot of that volume was the result of an ls -lR from the root
directory (i.e. a listing of every file on the hard disk).
Which are you after?
Blake Patterson wrote in message <368079D6.B0C1428B@bellatlantic.net>...
>I'm looking to buy a book that came out long before the first NeXT
>machine actually shipped called The NeXT Book or The NeXT Bible or
>something. Fairly thick paperback, black partially.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>bp
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From: bike1man1@aol.com (Bike1Man1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GLOBAL NXFontsPaths
Date: 23 Dec 1998 22:01:53 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Message-ID: <19981223170153.15305.00000636@ng137.aol.com>
I got FontSearch from ftp.peak.org where there is no warning. Anyway, I ran the
app as root and can't get a login window. I can boot in single users mode. My
big question is:
How do I "remove the roots "GLOBAL NXFontsPath" value out of the database" ??
Is this a permanent fix or do I need to restore what I remove?
I fast reply will be greatly appreciated:) Please cc to andrew@cfm.brown.edu
Thank you,
Andrew
Andrew@CFM.Brown.edu
Bike1Man1@aol.com
(401) 861-MATH
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GLOBAL NXFontsPaths
Organization: would be nice
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In <19981223170153.15305.00000636@ng137.aol.com> Bike1Man1 wrote:
> I got FontSearch from ftp.peak.org where there is no warning.
There are several gigs of apps, etc on peak.org.... you don't really expect
that we are aware all the bugs for all the programs, right? We rely on the
information we are given (or, more often, the information that one of us
reads on Usenet).
> Anyway, I ran the app as root and can't get a login window. I can boot in
> single users mode. My big question is:
>
> How do I "remove the roots "GLOBAL NXFontsPath" value out of the database"
??
>
> Is this a permanent fix or do I need to restore what I remove?
dremove GLOBAL NXFontsPath
You also might want to search 'fontsearch' in dejanews for the
comp.sys.next.* groups... there are a couple posts which suggest this never
really worked well anyway.
TjL
ps -- unix sysadmin tip: don't login as root for general usage.... it makes
things too easy to screw up (see above... I don't think this problem exists
if run as a regular user). I login as root on console exactly once: to
delete the 'me' account & user and to add my regular UID after a reinstall.
Everything else is done via OpenSesame.app and 'su - root' in Terminal.
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From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (bill anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: software for mounting Next discs on Mac?
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:30:27 -0400
Organization: mcgill
Message-ID: <bill-2312981930270001@mathd05.math.mcgill.ca>
I have some Zip disks formatted for the NeXT, but no longer a NeXT
machine. Is there some software, preferably freeware, that will enable me
to mount and read these disks on a Mac PPC? Something like PC Exchange.
Please respond to this newsgroup, as our e-mail is down.
Thanks,
Bill Anderson
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Subject: The Interactive Dance Compilation you can play and Mix on your PC!! 276
Date: 24 Dec 1998 12:19:53 GMT
Organization: Centro Servizi Interbusiness
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The Interactive Dance Compilation you can play and Mix on your PC!!
The best dance hits of '90 and 98 together in Discoparade
the first double compilation that you can play and Mix !
Discoparade is the one and only interactive compilation !
http://www.discoparade.com/
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From: rberber@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TeXview.app
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 16:51:45 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <75trf0$sln$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hi,
Anybody has this app working under Openstep 4.2?
The copy installed under /NextDeveloper/Demos doesn't even start. It blows
with a memory access exception, from gdb:
Program generated(1): Memory access exception on address 0xf6f6f6f6 (invalid
address). 0x501480c in _sel_registerName ()
Perhaps I'll just install the TeX package from NS 3.3.
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From: rberber@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeXview.app
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 18:26:21 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Message-ID: <760lcc$v86$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
References: <75trf0$sln$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <19981224151220.00850.00001574@ng-fi1.aol.com>
In article <19981224151220.00850.00001574@ng-fi1.aol.com>,
willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) wrote:
>
> Hmm, I didn't realise that it was there--I simply installed the package
> from my 3.1 CD (which worked fine), then I added the 3.05 update from
> Peak I think it was.
Thanks for the reply.
TeXview is not installed by default, I did install the package (from the OS
4.2 CD I think). Anyway I tried using the version in NS 3.3 with the same
result; looks like they are the same.
Finally I opted to convert what I needed to pdf, with dvipdf (which uses
dvips.) Is not the same, the pdf file is bigger, but I like OmniPDF search
capability.
> There're some other updates to it around as well as some new development
> branches (HyperView?) at least one of which has anti-aliasing.
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OSX , Objective C & web programming
Date: 24 Dec 1998 22:18:01 -0800
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <75vamp$5pe@slip.net>
Hi,
Does anyone know if we will be able to use
Objective-C libraries to build web interfaces
with OSX or will developers have to use Java?
Which JDK will be built into OSX ?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: nsauer@acs.ucalgary.ca (Norbert W. Sauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help, Virus ate my NeXt partition pointers
Date: 25 Dec 1998 10:48:28 -0700
Organization: The University of Calgary
Sender: Norbert Sauer, nsauer@ucalgary.ca
Message-ID: <760j1u$bdo@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>
Keywords: Virus, diskpartition table
My disk was partitioned into a NeXtstep 3.3 partition and a
Windows 95 partition with dual boot. A virus infected Windows. It
distroyed the disk table entry for the Next partition. It reads
now 0 at the beginning and 0 everywhere else. Using DOS disk
repair software, I have tried several, the place where NeXt step
was shows up as "free space".
When I stick the NeXt startup floppy and the NeXT operating
system CD into the computer and start up nothing happens after
the computer has run through the BIOS.
I have important info on this lost part of the disk. How can I
regain it?
I am not a computer scientist and understand little about this
matter. Any help is apreciated?
Norbert Sauer
From: rberber@my-dejanews.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help, Virus ate my NeXt partition pointers
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 02:54:55 GMT
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
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References: <760j1u$bdo@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>
In article <760j1u$bdo@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>,
nsauer@acs.ucalgary.ca (Norbert W. Sauer) wrote:
> My disk was partitioned into a NeXtstep 3.3 partition and a
> Windows 95 partition with dual boot. A virus infected Windows. It
> distroyed the disk table entry for the Next partition. It reads
> now 0 at the beginning and 0 everywhere else. Using DOS disk
> repair software, I have tried several, the place where NeXt step
> was shows up as "free space".
The information in the NS partition should be intact, only the boot sector
(if not changed by the virus it will be changed by anti-virus software) and
partition table is usually damaged.
> When I stick the NeXt startup floppy and the NeXT operating
> system CD into the computer and start up nothing happens after
> the computer has run through the BIOS.
Where exactly does it stop? What's the last line.
> I have important info on this lost part of the disk. How can I
> regain it?
>
> I am not a computer scientist and understand little about this
> matter. Any help is apreciated?
The procedure you need is to use NS fdisk and create the partition again,
then just boot into it and probably copy the boot sector provided with NS.
This can be done if your installation "boot" diskette and CD work (i.e. start
the installation.) I don't see any reason why they shouldn't but your
comment above tells otherwise.
If you are able to start the installation procedure then do the following
(read all the steps first, and if you understand everything, go ahead,
otherwise ask about any doubts):
1. At the boot prompt, type -s
2. After the installation asks about driver to use for CD and hard disk, the
-s option will make the procedure stop in single user mode (i.e. you get a
root prompt #.)
3. If your disk is EIDE run: fdisk /dev/rhd0h
if your disk is SCSI run: fdisk /dev/rsd0h
You'll get something like this:
NeXT fdisk v1.02
Device: /dev/rhd0h
Type Start Size Status
--------------------------------------------
DOS, 16 bit FAT 0 801 Active
NEXTSTEP 801 402 -
Fdisk main menu
----------------
1) Create a new partition
2) Delete a partition
3) Set the active partition
4) Show disk information
5) Quit without saving changes
6) Save changes and quit
Enter 1-6:
You'll probably will see only one line in the partition description, or the
start and size of the NS partition showing bad info.
Look at the values for DOS. Does it start at 0 ? This should determine if
NS is in the first (should start at 0) or second partition (should start at
the size shown for DOS.)
If you have a NS partition line, look at the values and see if they make
sense. Is the start right? Is the size, added with the DOS size the total
amount of space on your drive (you can see this value at the end of the
output to option 4) ?
4. Create the NS partition.
If you already have a NS partition showing, but the values are wrong, then
delete it. Don't worry, the information is only lost if you format that
partition.
With option 1, fdisk will ask you to use all available space or define how
much you want to use. Using all available space should work.
Review the result.
Save changes and quit.
5. Set the active partition to the NS partition.
6. Back in the root prompt, type reboot.
When the operating system finishes shutting down the machine and actually
reboot, then eject the "boot" floppy.
If everything went right you should be booting into NS.
Finally, to restore the boot sector, you'll have to run as root in a terminal:
disk -B /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a
or
disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rhd0a
depending on the kind of hard disk, SCSI use the first version, EIDE use the
second.
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeXview.app
Date: 26 Dec 1998 00:09:16 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
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rberber said:
>TeXview is not installed by default, I did install the package (from the OS
>4.2 CD I think). Anyway I tried using the version in NS 3.3 with the same
>result; looks like they are the same.
Hmm, I'm mystified by this--as I noted, my install worked fine and I can't
imagine that the .pkg file could've changed that much between 3.1 and 3.3.
>Finally I opted to convert what I needed to pdf, with dvipdf (which uses
>dvips.) Is not the same, the pdf file is bigger, but I like OmniPDF search
>capability.
You might want to take a look at <http://www.this.net/~frank> on the pStill
page there's a link to a file which will replace the bitmap fonts in a dvips
file with Adobe Type 1s
William
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From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unixware.misc
Subject: Software for reading guitar music?
Date: 26 Dec 1998 17:41:31 GMT
Organization: Cambridge University
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I'm looking for software that would help me to learn how to read
music for the classical guitar.
I am running OpenStep 4.2 on a PPro, but I have access to
SPARC/DEC running X Windows.
I picked up a really handy tool called Arcade.app for learning
how to touch type; just wondering if anything similar exists for
reading music?
Thomas.
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem with Win 98
Organization: would be nice
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Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 17:45:31 GMT
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In <763476$5d2$1@news.loxinfo.co.th> "Teerawut Ruedeejaroonrung" wrote:
> If anybody could offer me any help, that would be really kind
Here's all the help I can offer: comp.sys.next.software is not a support
group for Windows.
Try news:alt.windows9 or one of the 'comp.os.ms-windows.*' groups
TjL
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <6039914130021@digifix.com>
Date: 27 Dec 1998 04:45:38 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <14228914734832@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1994. Some of the many resources on the site
include: original YellowBox and Rhapsody articles, mailing
list information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites
related to Rhapsody, OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related
Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
http://www.peak.org/rhapsody
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://enterprise.apple.com
http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's Rhapsody Developer Release Site
http://gemma.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapdev/rhapsody.html
These pages are focused on tools and resources you need to
develop great Rhapsody software products..
Rhapsody Developer Documentation
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From: candlish@inetarena.com (John Candlish)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unixware.misc
Subject: Re: Software for reading guitar music?
Date: 26 Dec 1998 21:02:12 -0800
Organization: A Red Hat Commercial Linux Site
Message-ID: <764f0k$1j@inetarena.com>
References: <76374b$3au$2@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
MusixTeX will run on top of TeX and typesets music very nicely. There is at
least one midi-MusixTeX converter. And Sequence.app is one of many midi
players available on the platform.
I've found it very helpful to play midi scores while performing on guitar and
reading the typeset score.
jCandlish
.
From: "Ishir Bhan" <ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help installing OpenStep 4
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:01:17 -0500
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I have OpenStep 4 on CD-ROM for both black hardware and Intel. I also have
an iMac and a NextCube (the latter running NeXTSTEP 2). I would like to
upgrade the cube to OpenSTEP 4, but there are some logistical problems: I
have an external CD-ROM drive hooked up to the cube, but I don't seem to be
able to boot from it. I have no floppy or optical drive on the cube. I
have both machines hooked up to an ethernet network, and I was wondering if
I could:
1) Load OpenSTEP 4 Intel onto Virtual PC on the iMac.
2) NetBoot the cube from the iMac
3) Install OpenSTEP via CD onto the cube.
I have no idea how to do any of these things, however. Can anyone offer me
assistance or a good resource? Thanks.
--
Ishir Bhan <ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu>
http://bhan.ne.mediaone.net/~ishir/
From: player1@not.replyable.com (Jim String)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unixware.misc
Subject: Re: Software for reading guitar music?
Date: 27 Dec 1998 07:48:25 GMT
Organization: NorthWest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <slrn78brfl.bef.player1@molly.hh.org>
References: <76374b$3au$2@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk> <764f0k$1j@inetarena.com>
In article <764f0k$1j@inetarena.com>, John Candlish wrote:
>MusixTeX will run on top of TeX and typesets music very nicely. There is at
>least one midi-MusixTeX converter. And Sequence.app is one of many midi
>players available on the platform.
>
>I've found it very helpful to play midi scores while performing on guitar and
>reading the typeset score.
Do you have any suggestions on how to go about learning TeX and
MusixTeX? Though I'm a unix person I have not ever had the opportunity
to gain any exposure to TeX and I don't have the foggiest idea where
to start. I'm sure it's on one or most of my systems somewhere, it's
pretty standard to bundle it with almost any Linux distribution.
Best,
Jim
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ScanOmatic
Date: 27 Dec 1998 08:21:26 GMT
Organization: "private site"
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Hallo,
suche gebrauchte Studentenlizenz (Nachweis kann erbracht werden).
--
Juergen
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From: daveyohill@earthNOSPAMlink.net (Davey O')
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wet Paint Question
Date: 27 Dec 1998 14:52:34 GMT
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How do you fill a selection in Wet Paint (with either a texture, plain color,
or gradient). If you click on any tool after making a selection the selection
is "stamped".
Also is it possible to save selections in Wet Paint.
I really like Tiffany2 better for NS 3.3 but all e-mails to them to register
have not been responded to.
Does anyone have a Tiffany license they'd like to sell??
Regards,
David
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Learning to sight read software...
Date: 27 Dec 1998 15:49:38 GMT
Organization: Cambridge University
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I am re-posting because my previous post was perhaps not
the most clear.
I cannot sight read music. I would like to learn.
Is there software available that can help one to learn how to
__read__ music (note: _not_ software that typesets music)?
What I would envisage is an app that displays fragments of
music that one is then required to play; it would provide the
rythym, and then play the fragment after a certain time has
elapsed, or whatever.
Has anyone come across such software? I am running
OpenStep 4.2 on a PPro, but I have access to a SPARC
and a DEC running X Windows.
Thanks, Thomas.
From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
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In <765slh$41j$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> "Ishir Bhan" wrote:
> I have an external CD-ROM drive hooked up to the cube, but I don't seem to
> be able to boot from it. I have no floppy or optical drive on the cube.
To install directly using the CD-ROM you need a floppy to boot from which
switches over to the CD-ROM
TjL
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From: player1@not.replyable.com (Jim String)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Learning to sight read software...
Date: 27 Dec 1998 23:33:28 GMT
Organization: NorthWest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <slrn78dis2.bef.player1@molly.hh.org>
References: <765kui$9aa$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
In article <765kui$9aa$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Thomas Harte wrote:
>I am re-posting because my previous post was perhaps not
>the most clear.
>
>I cannot sight read music. I would like to learn.
>
>Is there software available that can help one to learn how to
>__read__ music (note: _not_ software that typesets music)?
>
>What I would envisage is an app that displays fragments of
>music that one is then required to play; it would provide the
>rythym, and then play the fragment after a certain time has
>elapsed, or whatever.
>
>Has anyone come across such software? I am running
>OpenStep 4.2 on a PPro, but I have access to a SPARC
>and a DEC running X Windows.
Sounds like you are looking for a midi package, something like
Cakewalk, but that only runs on Windows as far as I know.
You might take a look at Rosegarden, I think it just became
part of the Free Software Foundation. You might have to tinker
with it a bit to get it to compile on your platforms.
http://www.bath.ac.uk/~masjpf/rose.html
Best,
Jim
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: wav to snd/au conversion software?
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:55:39 GMT
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Does anyone know where to find such software that converts wav to snd/au
format, and preferrably also the other way round?
Thanks,
Ronald
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From: "Charles W. Swiger" <chuck@codefab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: wav to snd/au conversion software?
Date: 28 Dec 1998 16:36:30 GMT
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rcfa@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>Does anyone know where to find such software that converts wav to snd/au
>format, and preferrably also the other way round?
You're looking for GISO.app, which'll do the conversions in both directions,
as well as sampling-rate conversions and other nifty things.
>PS: please reply to < rcfa @ cubiculum . com > (Remove the spaces which
>are here as an anti spam measure...)
Nope. Read the groups you post to.
-Chuck
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From: BillLeeX@cleaf.com
Subject: HTTPS and Omniweb3.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:37:12 GMT
I have OmniWeb 3.0-beta-8b installed. Was using earlier versions
previous to the last release on the end of September.
I have noticed that https is now broken, and I cannot access URLs
using it. In the console I see:
OFBundleRegistry: Skipping /LocalLibrary/PlugIns/HTTPS.plugin
(requires software)
I have the following installed:
HTTPS.pkg vsn 1.04
RSAref.pkg vsn 1.0.0(port 2 Openstep fo Mach 4.x)
SSLeay.pkg vsn 0.0.0 RSAREF, Port 1
I have tried deleting and reinstalling all three packages: no help.
I thought perhaps I needed later versions of these packages, but
I cannot find them. I've looked through both the Omni web page as
well as PEAK, all to no avail.
The questions:
What is keeping me from using https?
Where are the current versions of the HTTPS and related packages?
Thanks in advance,
Bill Lee
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From: "Peter Aamodt" <aamodtpw@email.uc.edu>
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Subject: Re: Help - PS Type 1 Fonts to Windows
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:41:57 -0500
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References: <19981208010731.ian@nyro.com>
You need two files from each font folder: the text font metric (.afm) file
and the larger printer font ASCII (.pfa, but NeXT does not use the
extension) file. The pfa file must be named with that extension, but the
font name itself doesn't unless you're moving it to a drive where 8.3 naming
is mandatory (in this case, I don't know if any name will do, or if you have
to use Adobe's naming - the Adobe web site has a table of 8.3 font names and
the respective pacakges they represent).
Having gotten the font files to your PC, you'll need a converter to change
the pfa into pfb and the afm into pfm formats. I have been using CrossFont
(Win32) from Acute Systems (www.asy.com). It is not free but runs in a
limited mode that will cover your needs here, and it's very straightforward
to use. Once the two files per font are converted, you can install them in
ATM. Good luck.
Peter
Ian H. Stewart wrote in message <19981208010731.ian@nyro.com>...
>How can I move my NEXTSTEP PS type 1 fonts
>to Windows/ Windows with ATM?
>
>Thanks,
>
>ian
>
From: dan6970@hotmail.com
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Subject: SimonSays
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 03:38:56 GMT
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Could someone tell me where I can download the voice program SimonSays? If you
could, I would be very greatfull,
Thanks,
Dan
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From: tom@basil.icce.dev.rug.null.nl (Tom Hageman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HTTPS and Omniweb3.0
Date: 29 Dec 1998 02:35:50 GMT
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BillLeeX@cleaf.com wrote:
> I have OmniWeb 3.0-beta-8b installed. Was using earlier versions
> previous to the last release on the end of September.
>
> I have noticed that https is now broken, and I cannot access URLs
> using it. In the console I see:
>
> OFBundleRegistry: Skipping /LocalLibrary/PlugIns/HTTPS.plugin
> (requires software)
>
> I have the following installed:
>
> HTTPS.pkg vsn 1.04
> RSAref.pkg vsn 1.0.0(port 2 Openstep fo Mach 4.x)
> SSLeay.pkg vsn 0.0.0 RSAREF, Port 1
>
> I have tried deleting and reinstalling all three packages: no help.
>
> I thought perhaps I needed later versions of these packages, but
> I cannot find them. I've looked through both the Omni web page as
> well as PEAK, all to no avail.
>
> The questions:
>
> What is keeping me from using https?
> Where are the current versions of the HTTPS and related packages?
The HTTPS 1.04 package on peak is probably linked against the old Omni
frameworks, so it won't work with OW03.0b8 which expects the 1998G frameworks.
(I would hope that these framework APIs are by now stabilized enough that Omni
would keep them on the same major version, so hassles like these could be
avoided...)
Please try the 1.04a version of the HTTPS package, it worked for me (but with
the non-US version of SSLeay) -- I just can't remember whether I got it from
peak, peanuts, or ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/ (somewhere) or maybe
http://www.oic.de/ ...
Now we're at it, I had a similar problem with the PrintExtensions-2.0 plugin.
I managed to port it to OW3.0b8 using the following source patch (which may be
overkill) and a recompile:
*** PrintExtensions/CustomInfo.plist Thu Jun 11 01:48:21 1998
--- PrintExtensions/CustomInfo.plist Sun Nov 22 17:01:22 1998
***************
*** 2,5 ****
--- 2,11 ----
NSExecutable = "PrintExtensions";
OFSoftwareVersion = "2.0";
+ OFRequiredSoftwareVersions = {
+ OWF = 1998G;
+ OmniAppKit = 1998G;
+ OmniFoundation = 1998G;
+ OmniHTML = 1998G;
+ };
OFRegistrations =
{
Hope this helps,
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From: sst@ude.eromhtraws.sccs.nilrem (Thomas S. Stepleton)
Subject: WriteNow for black hardware
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 04:12:38 GMT
Is there any way to get a copy of WriteNow for black hardware these
days? I like it on my Mac, and now that I've managed to get my own
NeXTstation, I'd love to be able to use it there too.
Thanks,
--Tom
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From: luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion (TjL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: downloading usenet messages
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:25:41 GMT
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There are a few Unix utils out there for downloading messages from a Usenet
server (suck & slurp)
does anyone know
1) where I could find the source
or (better)
2) have an Intel/m68k binary ?
Manually archiving is getting to be a pain, and my former program (perl magic
which I can't diagnose) no longer seems to work.
I'd do a web search, but I really don't want to put those two names of
programs into a search engine on the Internet today
TjL
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From: Jan Richling <richling@informatik.hu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: downloading usenet messages
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:12:43 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Berlin, Deutschland
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TjL <luomat@peak.org.obvious.portion> wrote:
> There are a few Unix utils out there for downloading messages from a Usenet
> server (suck & slurp)
> does anyone know
> 1) where I could find the source
leafnode - TrollTech - I think the URL is www.troll.no - but use ftpsearch...
> or (better)
> 2) have an Intel/m68k binary ?
Just compiling... should work.
Leafnode is an offline news-server - fetches all messages you want (you
can specify the group(s)) and than you can read them offline - leafnode
works as local newsserver and you can use any client.
If you don't use the expire-tool, all news are available as long as you
want.
Maybe this meets your need.
Jan
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