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From: bengel@xs4all.nl Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Flashing a ZyXEL Omni 288S w/NeXTstation Date: 26 Nov 1997 16:28:29 -0000 Organization: Grobbebol's Home Message-ID: <65hind$7ni$1@grobbebol.xs4all.nl> References: <64kktg$bcp$2@newsin-1.starnet.net> <657nt0$73n1@news.midusa.net> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971123 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.32 (i586)) In comp.dcom.modems Dan LaCourse <lacourse@mail.midusa.net> wrote: > I managed to flash my ZyXEL 2864, but the only way I could get it to work was > through the Windows Terminal application running under SoftPC! Of course, > for that to work you have to have SoftPC.app. This might be the first thing > I've found it useful for on my NeXTStation. then, it looks like that the xmodem software used is not compatible. I recall that 128 byte xmodem blocks are needed or so. -- Grobbebol's Home | Don't give in to spammers. http://www.xs4all.nl/~bengel | Use your real e-mail address Linux 2.0.32 on an i586/64 MB | on Usenet.
From: ipcan@aol.com (Ipcan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: REPOST: REBATES FOR PENTIUM OVERDRIVE PROCESSORS Date: 1 Dec 1997 01:51:05 GMT Message-ID: <19971201015100.UAA02877@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com On October 3, the California Santa Clara County Superior Court approved the settlement of a class action against Intel. The settlement included a rebate program entitling purchasers of computers with 120 and 133 MHZ Pentium processors during the period October 23, 1995 to January 5, 1996 to $50 rebates on the purchase of a Pentium OverDrive processor. The rebate certificates are freely transferable and can be sold to anyone. To recieve a rebate certificate, those eligible need to download a Request Form from Intel's website at www.intel.com/procs/support/pentium/certif/certif.htm and send it to Intel in accordance with its instructions, or call Intel at 800-628-8686. The rebate coupon portion of the settlement was directed toward a short period of time during which Intel had admitted having disseminated incorrect SPECint92 benchmark test results. The most significant result of the settlement requires Intel to disclose in all future disseminations to consumers that the SPEC benchmark results and iCOMP Index 2.0 scores may have been calculated using differently configured systems. These disclosures inform consumers that the ratings for different Intel microprocessors are not directly comparable.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <19971201015100.UAA02877@ladder02.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19971201015100.UAA02877@ladder02.news.aol.com> Date: 01 Dec 1997 01:51:10 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.19971201015100.UAA02877@ladder02.news.aol.com> Sender: ipcan@aol.com (Ipcan) Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: IMAP4 Server OpenStep? Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 13:21:08 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <34824944.E94D55EF@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Have anyone tried U of Washington's IMAP4 server implementation on any OpenStep box? TIA, TC
From: "Roger FLATTIN" <rflattin@cornut.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Get an error while installing Rhapsody Date: 26 Nov 1997 21:07:06 GMT Organization: CORNUT Informatique Message-ID: <01bcfab9$12cc3d80$44cd09c0@machine.cornut.fr> Hi, I try to install Rhapsody on a PowerMacintosh 8500 but I get the following message : The disk has an invalid label. (my disk is a Seagate ST32550N. It's SCSI ID is 1 and it is plugged in the internal SCSI bus) The message appears when the installer scan the SCSI bus to display the list of the connected disks. I install it successfully on a 500 Mo hard disk (it was numbered ID 4 on the external SCSI bus). Then I try to configure the /etc/disktab but the disklabel and disk utilities always return error messages. The man pages doesn't clearly explain why a disk must be labelled. Could anybody explain me how it works ? Thanks in advance Roger FLATTIN
From: Ryan Woodsmall <woody@cdsinet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXT 3.2 Install Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 01:00:07 -0600 Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <34826077.F533C7A0@cdsinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I have been trying to install NeXTstep 3.2 on an old Compaq Presario. I installed an Adaptec 6360, which is supposed to be supported under 3.2. I planned on installing NeXT from a 2x Media Vision external CD-ROM drive. It resets the SCSI bus, finds the CD, but fails and screws up. I don't have a terminator on the other port of the CD-ROM, and I don't really know if I need one. The card and drive work fine under Win95, so I know they are not defective. Any ideas on what I should do? I've included the exact messages that went accross the screen. I'd really like to get NeXT installed soon, but I don't know what to do. I've also included my exact configuration just in case. Thanks in advance for any information. Sorry if this gets cross posted. Config: Compaq Presario CDS 724 Intel Overdrive 83MHz i586 processor 36 Meg memory 2 420 Meg hard drives 2x internal ATAPI CD-ROM drive Internal 14.4 modem External 33.6 modem 1.44 Meg floppy Adaptec 6360 SCSI controller 2x external SCSI CD-ROM drive PS/2 keyboard and mouse Here's some messages: Registering: sd0 at Taget 6 LUN 0 at sc0 Registering: sd0a sd0: Device Block Size: 2048 bytes sd0: Device Capactiy: 300 MB sd0: Disk Label: NEXTSTEP_3.2 Registering: sg0 at sc0 Registering: sg1 at sc0 Registering: sg2 at sc0 Registering: sg3 at sc0 Registering: event0 Registering: kmDevice 0 root on sd0 rootdev 600, howto 0 HIM error: error class = 2, error ID = 64 sd0: BOGUS SCSI STATUS (0x0): FATAL target: 6 LUN 0 op: Read block:84 blockcount: 4 panic: (CPU 0) vfs_mountroot. cannot mount root panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07PDT1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386 Kernel panic exception(6,3,1) Waiting for remote debugger connection. (Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot) -- Ryan Woodsmall woody@cdsinet.net c716128@showme.missouri.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Raul da Silva <raul_da_silva@novell.com> Subject: 3.1 to 4.2 upgrade problem on NeXTStation Sender: news@ukb.novell.com Message-ID: <34827117.520E@novell.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 08:11:03 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Novell, Inc. I'm having a problem with a 3.1 to 4.2 upgrade. I installed a CD-ROM drive on my system. This went fine - the NeXTStep 4.2 CD is recognized with no problem. I run the Upgrader.app and get the "OPENSTEP for Mach Software Upgrade" dialog. It says that the system disk contains Release 3.1 and that it will install 4.2 on it. So far, so good. I click on "Plan Upgrade" (a process that is said to take about 30 minutes) and it starts accessing the CD-ROM for a minute or two then abruptly quits. No error message; no information whatsoever. The machine is not hung or crashed. The upgrade just quits. The machine has a 406Mb main system drive with 132Mb free. There is a 1Gb external HD on the system with 460Mb free. The system currently has only 16Mb of RAM, but I will bump this up to 64Mb soon. Has anyone experienced this problem before? Any ideas, suggestions would be appreciated. Raul da Silva rdasilva@acm.org
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From: Administrator <nick@softopt.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: What do I do with .pkg files? Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 15:47:29 +0000 Organization: Soft Options Message-ID: <3482DC11.F719BD0F@softopt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all - Just installed Rhapsody on my Mac and love it, especially the shell :-). However, many downloads (eg tcsh and apache) come as .tgz but when untarred and zipped become .pkg files. Which I don't know what to do with. I see in the man pages that pkg_info and pkg_add are probably the commands I need, but they're not anywhere on the hard drive or Rhapsody CD that I can see. Am I being stupid? Are they somewhere obvious? Are they what I need? Any help for a Rhapsody newbie appreciated... Thanks! Nick Rich Project Manager Soft Options
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: What do I do with .pkg files? Date: 1 Dec 1997 16:14:36 GMT Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany Message-ID: <65unpc$g7g7@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <3482DC11.F719BD0F@softopt.co.uk> Administrator (nick@softopt.co.uk) wrote: : Hello all - : : Just installed Rhapsody on my Mac and love it, especially the shell :-). Fine :-), : : [...] : Am I being stupid? Are they somewhere obvious? Are they what I need? Won't comment on this one :-), but for NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP there used to be an Application Installer.app (in /NextAdmin), that was responsible for installing software and (automatically) handled packages. As you didn't have to ask for these systems what to do with packages, as Installer came up on its own by just double- clicking on packages (.pkg), I'll assume all has changed with Rhapsody, which I don't have. But if you look 'inside' packages (e.g. by removing the 'g' from pkg (-> .pk)), you'll see a '.tar.gz' or '.tar.Z' file which can often be expanded 'manually', e.g. by Opener.app (excellent). Be carefull. Some packages need certain installation places and/or pre-/postinstall handling, normally done by the Installer if 'certain' files for this are found. If this is not needed or handled otherwise, you may just 'unpackage' an (e.g.) app and move it to a conveniant place in the filesystem and it should work (if it's suitable for Rhapsody, that is). : : Any help for a Rhapsody newbie appreciated... Hope the above helps, at least for now. : : Thanks! You're welcome, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Get an error while installing Rhapsody -- NDA!?!?! Date: 1 Dec 1997 10:26:05 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <65u3bt$qa@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <01bcfab9$12cc3d80$44cd09c0@machine.cornut.fr> <cam-3011971213130001@tnt01dla033.escape.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: cam@_SpAmThIs.escape.ca In <cam-3011971213130001@tnt01dla033.escape.ca> Cam Giesbrecht wrote: [snip] > I just thought that I would warn you that discussion of products covered under > a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) in public with people not covered under such > NDA is a violation of the NDA. Apple could prosecute and/or discontinue your > participation in any "seeding" projects (Rhapsody, MacOS 8.1, OS 9, etc.) I see this more and more as an obstacle for our progress. Especially people that deal with the unfinished and not completely documented prereleases need all the help they can get. To throw people back onto their own devices with a "RTFM" doesn't help anybody. The fact that there were always some people that could help you was one of the major advantages in the NeXT days. To wait till Apple become aware of the problem and provide a solution of their own is not really a solution. Maybe they should take some lesson fom the Linux community. (Just my DM 0.02) ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Cylinder group sizing Date: 1 Dec 1997 20:24:47 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <65v6ef$75e$6@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <veeiutfhr87.fsf@shell.one.net> <65n0db$hv5$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <SCOTT.97Nov29235229@howard.doubleu.com> scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) wrote: > Alas, running a news server on a NeXTSTEP machine isn't a good idea as > of yet. NEXTSTEP isn't an optimal choice in terms of performance (something like FreeBSD is just about perfect, although Solaris does well, too), but it works fine for lightly- to medium-loaded news servers. > Perhaps they'll someday go to a journalled/log-based > filesystem, or add asynchronous metadata updates. Wouldn't that be nice? Dare we hope for such with HFS+? > > I need to figure a way to make people pay me for learning this > > stuff, > > That one's easy-- find a position as a sysadmin, and then find a > machine which needs some performance tuning. :-) > > Actually, I was thinking more on the lines of writing programs for > other people to use... That's harder. Do some OS development consulting for Apple, maybe. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: What do I do with .pkg files? Date: 1 Dec 1997 21:43:01 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <65vb15$7ju$1@news.digifix.com> References: <3482DC11.F719BD0F@softopt.co.uk> <65unpc$g7g7@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> In-Reply-To: <65unpc$g7g7@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> The current version of Rhapsody doesn't ship with an Installer.app. However, there is an installer script that will do what you are after.. installer.sh filename Look in the release notes. On 12/01/97, H.-R. Oberhage wrote: >Administrator (nick@softopt.co.uk) wrote: >: Hello all - >: >: Just installed Rhapsody on my Mac and love it, especially the shell :-). >Fine :-), > >: >: [...] >: Am I being stupid? Are they somewhere obvious? Are they what I need? >Won't comment on this one :-), but for NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP there >used to be an Application Installer.app (in /NextAdmin), that was >responsible for installing software and (automatically) handled >packages. As you didn't have to ask for these systems what to >do with packages, as Installer came up on its own by just double- >clicking on packages (.pkg), I'll assume all has changed with >Rhapsody, which I don't have. > >But if you look 'inside' packages (e.g. by removing the 'g' from >pkg (-> .pk)), you'll see a '.tar.gz' or '.tar.Z' file which >can often be expanded 'manually', e.g. by Opener.app (excellent). >Be carefull. Some packages need certain installation places >and/or pre-/postinstall handling, normally done by the Installer >if 'certain' files for this are found. If this is not needed >or handled otherwise, you may just 'unpackage' an (e.g.) app >and move it to a conveniant place in the filesystem and it >should work (if it's suitable for Rhapsody, that is). > -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Get an error while installing Rhapsody -- NDA!?!?! Date: 1 Dec 1997 21:40:27 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <65vasb$7jh$1@news.digifix.com> References: <01bcfab9$12cc3d80$44cd09c0@machine.cornut.fr> <cam-3011971213130001@tnt01dla033.escape.ca> <65u3bt$qa@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> In-Reply-To: <65u3bt$qa@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> An even better idea is to consult the Rhapsody FAQs on Devworld.. http://devworld.apple.com/rhapsody/rhapfaq/2.html Can I talk about Rhapsody with other developers? [new] Note that the rhapsody-talk mailing list at Omnigroup.com has been a great resource for just this type of discussion. As far as comparing Rhapsody to Linux goes, thats not productive. Apple is a commerical company, and has to protect its product that is not shipping yet. We've seen how stupid articles in the past (PCWeek, MacWeek) can take what are obviously transitional issues and make them appear to be 'Final Release Gospel'. On 12/01/97, Rainer Frohnhoefer wrote: >In <cam-3011971213130001@tnt01dla033.escape.ca> Cam Giesbrecht wrote: >[snip] >> I just thought that I would warn you that discussion of products >> covered >under >> a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) in public with people not >> covered under >such >> NDA is a violation of the NDA. Apple could prosecute and/or >> discontinue >your >> participation in any "seeding" projects (Rhapsody, MacOS 8.1, >> OS 9, etc.) > > I see this more and more as an obstacle for our progress. Especially people >that deal with the unfinished and not completely documented prereleases need >all the help they can get. > > To throw people back onto their own devices with a "RTFM" doesn't help >anybody. The fact that there were always some people that could help you was >one of the major advantages in the NeXT days. > > To wait till Apple become aware of the problem and provide a solution of >their own is not really a solution. > > Maybe they should take some lesson fom the Linux community. > -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Get an error while installing Rhapsody -- NDA!?!?! Date: 1 Dec 1997 20:51:36 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <65v80o$hrt$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <01bcfab9$12cc3d80$44cd09c0@machine.cornut.fr> <cam-3011971213130001@tnt01dla033.escape.ca> <65u3bt$qa@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> In article <65u3bt$qa@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de>, Rainer Frohnhoefer <rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote: > I see this more and more as an obstacle for our progress. Especially people >that deal with the unfinished and not completely documented prereleases need >all the help they can get. People who have access to prereleases such as RDR does have a channel for help. It's devsupport@apple.com. Posting a message out in comp.sys.next* is a waste of bandwidth because the majority of the users out on Usenet don't have RDR and those who do have RDR are bound by their NDAs. > The fact that there were always some people that could help you was >one of the major advantages in the NeXT days. Yeah, but when NS/OS PR releases were out, people honored their NDAs. > To wait till Apple become aware of the problem and provide a solution of >their own is not really a solution. It is the RDR recepients' responsibility to let Apple know of potential problems. When Apple knows of a problem, perhaps they will investigate and offer workarounds. Those who don't want to use this mechanism have no business of trying to run seed software in the first place. > Maybe they should take some lesson fom the Linux community. The Linux community lives by different philosophies than Apple. If you don't feel it's correct, write to Apple. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Performance Availability & Solutions Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help interpret system crash error message Date: 1 Dec 1997 23:54:34 GMT Message-ID: <65vinq$h1d$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Could anyone please help me to interpret an error message in connection with a system crash a few days ago? I found the following in /usr/adm/messages for my machine mally.stanford.edu: > Nov 26 20:25:44 mally mach: unexpected kernel page fault failure > Nov 26 20:25:44 mally mach: trap: type 0x410 fcode 5 rw 1 faultaddr > 0x67750009 > Nov 26 20:25:44 mally syslogd: going down on signal 15 I have replaced the memory in the machine recently, and it has been a lot more stable. But I am not sure what was the cause of this crash. There were no jobs in /etc/crontab running at this time. This machine is a NeXTstation Color Turbo with 128 MB of memory running NeXTSTEP 3.3 . Thanks for any help you can give me. Yours, Ed --- Edward N. Zalta (zalta@mally.stanford.edu) Senior Research Scholar, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html -- Edward N. Zalta Senior Research Scholar, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Linux & NeXT Network Date: 30 Nov 1997 01:31:08 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <65qfks$7vr$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <65nsmu$2ev$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <65nsmu$2ev$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> Robert B. Love wrote: > After years of owing a single NeXT 68k I now have a Linux machine > sitting beside it. I want to be able to transfer files between the > machines with ethernet and am afraid I know nothing of networks. I don't know much, but have learned a little.... > In reading the NeXT Sysadmin guide I find I get headaches for 2 > reasons: a) I have no idea how the network should be organized. > Do I use Netinfo as suggested? Not with a non-NeXT box, I don't think. > Can it really be the configuration server for the Linux box? Should it be? I don't think so (for both) > b) the documents are 7 years old and the applications in the book no longer > look like, or even have the same name, as the ones in NeXTAdmin. The online docs? They should be more up to date than the published..... TjL > My question is: What is the recommended way to hook up a single > NeXT and non-next Unix box via ethernet? All advice is appreciated. I think (he said, never having done it) that on the NeXT you can add the hosts in HostManager.app. On the Linux box you add the machine to /etc/hosts (I guess). TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help. 4.1 intel install Date: 28 Nov 1997 18:55:41 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <65n43d$6e4$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <MPG.ee83c29857d908d989684@news.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tpp109@psu.edu In <MPG.ee83c29857d908d989684@news.erols.com> Tom Priore wrote: > Hey i'm having some problems. I got the 4.1 cd but no boot floppies. i > went to www.next.com and all the had was 3.x floppies and a 4.1 aditional > drives disk. does anyone know where i can get the 4.1 disks? or can i use > the 3.3 with the 4.1 addional drivers disk? I think so, the boot floppy shouldn't have changed, I think that it just has the instructions for booting off the CD... There's one way to find out for sure ;-) TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: planetary <kris@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: IMAP4 Server OpenStep? Date: 1 Dec 1997 18:56:29 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <65vpsd$9ca$1@xmission.xmission.com> References: <34824944.E94D55EF@bah.com> Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> wrote: : Have anyone tried U of Washington's IMAP4 server implementation on any : OpenStep box? It works great. I am serving a network of about ten users on my old Color slab using the IMAP 4.1 beta. ...........kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you know so much about Usenet, then why are you still posting?
From: planetary <kris@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: What do I do with .pkg files? Date: 1 Dec 1997 19:01:24 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <65vq5k$9uj$1@xmission.xmission.com> References: <3482DC11.F719BD0F@softopt.co.uk> <65unpc$g7g7@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> H.-R. Oberhage <phy070@spo109> wrote: : But for NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP there : used to be an Application Installer.app (in /NextAdmin), that was : responsible for installing software and (automatically) handled : packages. As you didn't have to ask for these systems what to : do with packages, as Installer came up on its own by just double- : clicking on packages (.pkg), I'll assume all has changed with : Rhapsody, which I don't have. Check the file /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/ReleaseNotes/InstallTools.html and you will find a replacement for Installer.app. ...........kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you know so much about Usenet, then why are you still posting?
From: leigh@NOSPAMcs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Xfer files from HFS (Mac) -> UFS (Rhapsody) Date: 2 Dec 1997 03:23:26 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Message-ID: <65vuve$91d$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: <B0A232C5-20B4F@207.8.209.18> <34804587.3B2@thegrid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gneagle@thegrid.net In <34804587.3B2@thegrid.net> Greg Neagle wrote: > scott nichol wrote: > > i thought the original openstep OS supported HFS volumes? > > It did. DOS volumes, too. > > > why would > > apple cut this out of the developer release for rhapsody? > > Seems inconceivable, huh? Especially in the Intel version of Rhapsody, > since OpenStep 4.x supported both HFS and DOS formatted media just fine. > Rhapsody has moved to VFS. DOS and mac volume support in OS4.2 was hacked into the FileManager rather than being part of the file system which will be the way with Rhapsody. While there is more pain at the present with the developer release, the final solution will be more of a win because support for NT filesystems and other foreign systems will be much easier. -- Leigh Computer Science, University of Western Australia Smith +61-8-9380-3778 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) "Home pages are the pet rock of the 90s. We all have them, we all think they're very cute. But in a few years we're going to look back and be pretty embarrassed." -- Tony Shepps <toad@pond.com> "Why wait?" -- Peter Langston
From: chrysties@mymail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: hello Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 23:11:59 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <011297231159@mymail.com> Nothing to do? Let's talk. 1-900-786-1900
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From: echen@cs.rice.edu (Edward S. Chen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Virtual PC and NeXTStep3.3 Date: 22 Nov 1997 02:10:55 GMT Organization: Rice University Message-ID: <655evf$s79$1@joe.rice.edu> I am trying to install NeXTSTep 3.3 on a Mac 8500/180 running "Virtual PC." The CD is configured as EIDE/ATAPI, but the only drivers on the driver disk are SCSI. According to the FAQ, EIDE is supported in 3.3. Can anybody point me at a disk(/image), or place I could get the appropriate driver? Much thanks, <ESC> -- Cellophane Flowers of Yellow and Green, Towering over your head -- J. Lennon / P. McCartney, 1967 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: dale@wco.com (Dale Tersey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: rxt0 to rst0 Date: 2 Dec 1997 06:57:40 GMT Organization: Computer Recycling Project Message-ID: <660bh4$aec$1@news2.sirius.com> I'm trying to convert from our old Exabyte tape drive (/dev/rxt0) to a newer Mountain (/dev/rst0) drive. mt sees it just fine, dump runs to it just fine, but tar gives me an I/O error and insists that the device is still /dev/rxt0. How do I get tar to identify the right device? - Dale NextStep 3.3 on Intel
From: <expo321@vivid.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: FREE! 101 Business You Can Start At Home For Less Than $100 Message-ID: <34839571.2@news.vivid.net> Date: 2 Dec 97 04:58:25 GMT CyberQuest Solutions has put together 101 Businesses you can start in your own home for less than $100.00... And this information is FREE! This is not a get rich scheme. These businesses will probably not make you rich, but they are viable businesses that you can start and run from your own home. One of them may be you future. Just send $4.95 for Shipping & Handling to: CyberQuest Solutions 1194 Ashborough Dr. Ste. E Marietta, GA 30067 No checks please. Allow two weeks for delivery.
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From: Nick Rich <nick@softopt.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: What do I do with .pkg files? Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 09:07:37 +0000 Organization: Soft Options Message-ID: <3483CFD9.9F67E87E@softopt.co.uk> References: <3482DC11.F719BD0F@softopt.co.uk> <65unpc$g7g7@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> <65vq5k$9uj$1@xmission.xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aha! Thankyou.. Installer.sh provides the answers, and I now have apache installed! Many thanks to all who helped... Nick planetary wrote: > H.-R. Oberhage <phy070@spo109> wrote: > > : But for NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP there > : used to be an Application Installer.app (in /NextAdmin), that was > : responsible for installing software and (automatically) handled > : packages. As you didn't have to ask for these systems what to > : do with packages, as Installer came up on its own by just double- > : clicking on packages (.pkg), I'll assume all has changed with > : Rhapsody, which I don't have. > > Check the file > > /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/ReleaseNotes/InstallTools.html > > and you will find a replacement for Installer.app. > > ...........kris > -- > Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > If you know so much about Usenet, then why are you still posting?
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From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: CERT on IMAP4 (was Re: IMAP4 Server OpenStep?) Date: 2 Dec 1997 14:14:14 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66153m$ek5$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34824944.E94D55EF@bah.com> <65vpsd$9ca$1@xmission.xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kris@xmission.xmission.com FYI the recent CERT summary warned of continued problems with IMAP4 (and they mocked NeXTMail as being insecure ;-) Here is the relevant portion of the CERT summary from a few days ago... Might want to check out their URLs listed below. TjL Recent Activity - --------------- Since the August CERT Summary, we have seen these continuing trends in incidents reported to us. 1. Continuing IMAP Exploits Although it's been mentioned in past CERT Summaries (CS-97.04, CS-97.05), we continue to receive a significant stream of reports relating to IMAP attacks. These reports show that intruders are launching large scale, automated scans against many networks--identifying many potentially vulnerable systems. The impact of an IMAP attack is that the remote user (e.g., intruder) will be able to gain root-level access on a vulnerable host. We cannot stress enough the importance for sites to check for the IMAP vulnerability and take immediate action to address the problem. For more information see the following: ftp://ftp.cert.org/pub/cert_summaries/CS-97.04 ftp://ftp.cert.org/pub/cert_advisories/CA-97.09.imap_pop http://www.cert.org/pub/advisories/1997/CA-97.09.imap_pop.html - If you have a host that has a vulnerable IMAP server installed by default as part of the OS version, but that is not using IMAP, you should investigate any connection to port 143 for signs of a root compromise. - If you have a host that is using a vulnerable version of the IMAP server, you should investigate connections that are from outside the network or the constituency of the network for signs of a root compromise. NOTE: If you discover that you have suffered a root compromise as a result of conditions like those described in the two previous paragraphs, we would like to know. We also encourage you to recover by taking the steps outlined in ftp://ftp.cert.org/pub/tech_tips/root_compromise - If you are not running an IMAP server, connection attempts (internal or external) to port 143 are probably probes by an intruder; they could also be the result of a misconfiguration if the connection attempts originate from within your constituency. - If you are running a patched IMAP server, connections that are from outside your network or the constituency of the network are very likely to be probes by intruders. NOTE: If you have been probed (as described in the two previous paragraphs) and the attack was not successful, we would like to hear about that, too. We encourage you to contact the site from which the probe originated to alert them to the activity, in case the account used to launch the attack was compromised. Your reports will help us to continue to determine the scope of the problem and coordinate appropriate responses, although we may not be able to respond to each report individually. -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: GateKeeper --> LogOn.app Date: 24 Nov 1997 14:23:49 GMT Organization: VTL Message-ID: <65c2ll$b4g$1@wagner.videotron.net> References: <01bcf784$9d40e1b0$629c2fd1@voyager> In-Reply-To: <01bcf784$9d40e1b0$629c2fd1@voyager> On 11/22/97, "Stephen Turnbull" wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to configure gatekeeper and I am having a problem. Once I > dial and connect by throwing the ppp switch I get the following messages: > > connecting pppd->cufa > serial line looped back > connection terminated > > Any suggestions on how I might resolve this are greatly appreciated > > Regards > > Stephen Turnbull > -- > turnbull@datarev.com > ============================ Perhaps you should get: ftp://wendy.ucsd.edu/pub/Mark/LogOn.README ftp://wendy.ucsd.edu/pub/Mark/LogOn_00.88b.m.NIS.tar.gz LogOn.app can configure your connection "automatically". (Compatible with PPP 2.2 and 2.3) All you need to do is supply your ISP's domain name and phone number. LogOn is still in beta stage but it's already very stable, and runs flawlessly. You can also run special scripts if you wish. IMHO, (THANK YOU MARK TROMBINO!), this is the FIRST application that makes connecting to your ISP "easier" than on any other platform. Yes, it has a graphical user interface. (LogOn will empty your mail queue, fetch your mail (i.e. via PopOver), and it can launch other applications such as as NewsFlash, Omniweb, etc.) PPP configuration headaches on NEXTSTEP/Openstep are now a thing of the past. Hope this helps, Andr SCRIBEX COMMUNICATIONS E-Mail: info@scribex.com WEB: www.scribex.com ========================
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: rxt0 to rst0 Date: 2 Dec 1997 16:04:32 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <661big$iiu$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <660bh4$aec$1@news2.sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: dale@wco.com In <660bh4$aec$1@news2.sirius.com> Dale Tersey wrote: > I'm trying to convert from our old Exabyte tape drive (/dev/rxt0) to a > newer Mountain (/dev/rst0) drive. mt sees it just fine, dump runs to > it just fine, but tar gives me an I/O error and insists that the > device is still /dev/rxt0. > > How do I get tar to identify the right device? a) RTFM: man tar will tell you: tar -f /dev/rst0 b) Use gnutar instead. You can either use the `-f' option as above, or you can set the environment variable $TAPE: setenv TAPE /dev/rst0 or TAPE=/dev/rst0 ; export TAPE according to shell. Matthew [Posted and Mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help. 4.1 intel install Date: 2 Dec 1997 16:21:47 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <661cir$iiu$2@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <MPG.ee83c29857d908d989684@news.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: tpp109@psu.edu In <MPG.ee83c29857d908d989684@news.erols.com> Tom Priore wrote: > Hey i'm having some problems. I got the 4.1 cd but no boot floppies. i > went to www.next.com and all the had was 3.x floppies and a 4.1 aditional > drives disk. does anyone know where i can get the 4.1 disks? or can i use > the 3.3 with the 4.1 addional drivers disk? ftp://ftp.plsys.co.uk/pub/Misc/FloppyImages/ Matthew [Posted and Mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: Selena Brewington <selena@zardoz.uoregon.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXTStep 3.2 and sendmail 8.8.8, db-1.85 Date: 02 Dec 1997 16:51:35 -0800 Organization: University of Oregon, Network Services Message-ID: <8767p71c6g.fsf@zardoz.uoregon.edu> I compiled sendmail 8.8.8 with a vanilla 3.2, and did a couple test runs w/ the check_rcpt anti-relay rules and stuff looked fine.. I haven't upgraded db or managed to get sendmail to compile with gdbm libraries installed, however. Knowing that this was going to be a problem, but with pressing mailer problems on the horizon, I let it run for about a day anyway. 3 problems: 1) aliases don't work 2) users whose accounts have been removed get /usr/spool/mail/* files created for them 3) .forwards are not honored I am wondering if there is some sort of database creation work-around another person has employed w/ a similar configuration. Kind of lame, yes, but I'm in a bind. thanks, -- selena That still leaves the segment crud, but gag me with a spoon, it's not actually usable. -Linus Torvalds
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <250028888@searchspaniel.com> Date: 2 Dec 1997 20:05:13 GMT Control: cancel <250028888@searchspaniel.com> Message-ID: <cancel.250028888@searchspaniel.com> Sender: smith@umes07.avl.co.at (Search Spaniel) Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@subsequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Xfer files from HFS (Mac) -> UFS (Rhapsody) Date: 3 Dec 1997 02:06:50 GMT Organization: Steel Driving Software, Chicago Sender: Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@isdnjhendry.cmg.fcnbd.com> Message-ID: <662erq$c7i@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> References: <B0A232C5-20B4F@207.8.209.18> <34804587.3B2@thegrid.net> <65vuve$91d$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> Leigh Smith <leigh@NOSPAMcs.uwa.edu.au> wrote: > In <34804587.3B2@thegrid.net> Greg Neagle wrote: > > scott nichol wrote: > > > i thought the original openstep OS supported HFS volumes? > > > > It did. DOS volumes, too. > > > > > why would > > > apple cut this out of the developer release for rhapsody? > > > > Seems inconceivable, huh? Especially in the Intel version of Rhapsody, > > since OpenStep 4.x supported both HFS and DOS formatted media just fine. > > > Rhapsody has moved to VFS. DOS and mac volume support in OS4.2 was hacked > into the FileManager Oh bullshit. Rhapsody DR still uses UFS. HFS and DOS media were supported by NeXTSTEP for years, long before OpenStep 4.0. - JH
From: Mike Paquette <mpaque@wco.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Xfer files from HFS (Mac) -> UFS (Rhapsody) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 97 22:20:55 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <971202220727-mpaque@wco.com> References: <B0A232C5-20B4F@207.8.209.18> <34804587.3B2@thegrid.net> <65vuve$91d$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> In article <65vuve$91d$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> of groups comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,c omp.sys.next.sysadmin, Leigh Smith writes: > Rhapsody has moved to VFS. DOS and mac volume support in OS4.2 was hacked > into the FileManager rather than being part of the file system which will be > the way with Rhapsody. While there is more pain at the present with the > developer release, the final solution will be more of a win because support > for NT filesystems and other foreign systems will be much easier. NeXTStep used VFS in all it's versions. VFS stands for Virtual File System, a simple filesystem abstraction layer originally introduced in the early 1980s to extend filesystems onto networks. VFS consists of a simple API, and a couple of data structures. One of the structs is a bag of function pointers, filled in with a specific file system implementation. NeXT's DOS and HFS filesystems were dynamically loaded into the kernel on demand, and hooked in through the VFS mechanism. The HFS implemtation was buggy (No suprise. Any third party trying to implement a vendor-specific filesystem clone from a spec will hit similar problems.) I expect that an implementation based on genuine Apple code will appear to replace it. Mike Paquette mpaque AT wco.com (Damn junk mailers!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Xfer files from HFS (Mac) -> UFS (Rhapsody) Message-ID: <cdoutyEKLpr1.K0D@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom References: <B0A232C5-20B4F@207.8.209.18> <34804587.3B2@thegrid.net> <65vuve$91d$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> <662erq$c7i@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 06:52:13 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom10.netcom.com In article <662erq$c7i@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>, Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@subsequent.com> wrote: >Leigh Smith <leigh@NOSPAMcs.uwa.edu.au> wrote: >> In <34804587.3B2@thegrid.net> Greg Neagle wrote: >> > scott nichol wrote: >> > > i thought the original openstep OS supported HFS volumes? >> > >> > It did. DOS volumes, too. >> > >> > > why would >> > > apple cut this out of the developer release for rhapsody? >> > >> > Seems inconceivable, huh? Especially in the Intel version of Rhapsody, >> > since OpenStep 4.x supported both HFS and DOS formatted media just fine. >> > >> Rhapsody has moved to VFS. DOS and mac volume support in OS4.2 was hacked >> into the FileManager > >Oh bullshit. Rhapsody DR still uses UFS. HFS and DOS media were supported >by NeXTSTEP for years, long before OpenStep 4.0. Yes and no wrt the BS. As I understand it UFS and NFS are built into the NS/OS Mach kernels as part of the BSD personality. Support for the loadable CDFS, DOS, and HFS filesystems was hacked into the NFS (kernel) interface. With Rhapsody come a BSD 4.4 personality which includes the Virtual File System (VFS) as a more consistent API for loadable filesystems. I suppose that UFS is still directly supported in the kernel. NFS might be too, but I think this is a filesystem supported under the VFS interface in proper BSD 4.4. It is perfectly reasonable that loadable filesystem support through VFS isn't ready for release, especially since there are still kernel changes, people expect reliable filesystems, etc. I do agree that FAT and HFS are not "hacked into the FileManager." The Workspace process does attempt to detect the filesystem of any removable media upon insert and does the same to foreign partitions of fixed disks on login. You can override this by killing the automounter process (I'm pretty sure that's the responsible party.) and/or statically mounting a partition in /etc/fstab. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: thrall@serv.net (Dean Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: OPENSTEP on Thinkpad portables Date: 3 Dec 1997 09:07:14 GMT Organization: Not Sure Yet Message-ID: <6637g2$ar9$1@dns2.serv.net> Has any one tried to install OPENSTEP 4.X on IBM's Thinkpad portables? If you have I'd be interested in hearing about your adventures. Does someone know if the older display drivers work in newer (cheaper) thinkpads? Thanks in advance for your time, dean johnson
From: Greg Neagle <gneagle@thegrid.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Xfer files from HFS (Mac) -> UFS (Rhapsody) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 08:40:41 -0800 Organization: Call America Internet Services +1 (800) 563-3271 Message-ID: <34804587.3B2@thegrid.net> References: <B0A232C5-20B4F@207.8.209.18> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: scott nichol <nichol@netaxs.com> scott nichol wrote: > > i've successfully loaded rhapsody onto my powermac 7600 and recently > downloaded some updates and such through my powerbook to a HFS (MacOS) > formatted zip cartridge. the gzipped files are OK on the mac side, but > when the disk comes up under rhapsody, the file system is not properly > recognized. so, how do i get the files onto my powermac on the > rhapsody side? i don't have a direct ethernet connection and there's > no PPP support yet for rhapsody. even if there was, how would i > download it all? The best solution right now is to use Suntar and a floppy disk: <ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de//pub/mirror/info-mac.org/cmp/sunt ar-213.hqx> is one URL for Suntar. Open Suntar. Insert a floppy (formatted or not, it doesn't matter, but any existing files will be destroyed) From the Write menu, choose Create new archive. Then choose Write data fork and select your gzipped files. End with End of Writing from the Write menu. Quit Suntar. Reboot into Rhapsody. (You may want to log in as root) Open Terminal.app. cd into the directory into you wish to extract the files. Insert the floppy. A warning panel will come up. Ignore it (but don't close it) and click back into the Terminal.app window. In Terminal.app type "tar -xfv /dev/rfd0b" to extract the files from the floppy. Thanks to Stefan at <svwa@muc.de> for this method as well as the pointers about hfsUtils (below). I have used this method to move files to Rhapsody with great success, including the hfsUtils package from Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org> which is at <http://www.mars.org/home/rob/proj/hfs/> This package allows one to access hfs volumes using command-line commands from Terminal.app. Not elegant, but it works. You can copy files from hfs volumes to Rhapsody and back. If you need additional help with the hfsUtils let me know. > i thought the original openstep OS supported HFS volumes? It did. DOS volumes, too. > why would > apple cut this out of the developer release for rhapsody? Seems inconceivable, huh? Especially in the Intel version of Rhapsody, since OpenStep 4.x supported both HFS and DOS formatted media just fine.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <663npu$fn2@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <663npu$fn2@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Date: 03 Dec 1997 13:45:41 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.663npu$fn2@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Sender: Frogbox's Warez Pad<myemail@any.where.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Quantum Fireball ST2.1S Data Sheet Needed Date: 3 Dec 1997 14:04:03 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Message-ID: <663osj$fed$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <347DE52C.393FA79D@trilithon.com> Henry McGilton <henry@trilithon.com> wrote: >I'm trying to format and init a Quantum Fireball ST2.1S >2.1 GB SCSI disk on my Slab. I suspect that >the factory jumper settings are incompatible with the >NextStation's SCSI settings. > >I can't find a data sheet anywhere, not even on. >Quantum's web page. Anybody have a data sheet for >this drive. Did you look at quantum.com? It's pretty easy to find, just click on "Support". It will take you to http://support.quantum.com/guides/fbst_sguide.htm For an internal disk, jumper TE and TERMPWR (J13). For an external disk, you may wish to use a term resistor at the end of the chain instead of terminating the disk. >E-Mail would be preferred as I don't read this group >very often these days. Hm. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Toshiba Tecra 750 videochip Date: 3 Dec 1997 14:23:10 GMT Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany Message-ID: <663q0e$g5e15@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> Summary: Does Toshiba Tecra 750 work with NS/OS in HiRes mode? Keywords: Notebook OPENSTEP NEXTSTEP S3/Virge videodriver Hello, now that the 730 and 740 Toshiba Tecra notebook series finally give you a 1024x768 colour (16bit) display, thanks to Bifrost Workstations, Inc. and their fine drivers for C&T 6555x chips, Toshiba moves to an S3/Virge chip with the 750 series. Can someone please make a (qualified) statement about if I can have NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP (the latter is more imporant, but it shouldn't read Rhapsody alias OpenStep to come) run in a colour 1024x768 mode with the available drivers? Or a really(!) soon(!) to be released driver for let's say OS 4.2? Or if there are some principal problems at all running OPENSTEP with the 750 series due to new hardware? (I hope not, the 7xx run just fine up to now). Thanks for any meaningful information, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: "Stefano Pisati" <Stefano.Pisati@IrisTech.it> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: What is the last version of NeXTStep/Openstep for black hw ??? Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:25:03 +0100 Organization: Iris Technologies Message-ID: <663ubf$pcu$1@urano.inet.it> Hi, after more than two years I finally reinstall my old 040 cube with NeXTStep 3.3... I want to know what OS is now available (and where and how much does it cost) that run on this very very old hw... my config is a 040 cube with 64Mb, 1 gb HD, MO... Tnx in advance !!! Stefano
From: halset@ra.pvv.ntnu.no (Tore Halset) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Rhapsody, nis, yp and NetInfo. Date: 29 Nov 1997 17:58:47 GMT Organization: The Norwegian University of Science and Technology Message-ID: <slrn680lum.ah0.halset@ra.pvv.ntnu.no> What are the trix to get yp/nis to work with Rhapsody? Either ppc or the intel version does seem to have ypbind. Anyone got it to work? - Tore.
From: jkwatson@merle.acns.nwu.edu (John Watson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: netinfo question Date: 3 Dec 1997 16:47:55 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL Message-ID: <6642fr$ofk@news.acns.nwu.edu> Keywords: netinfo I'm getting a netinfo message on the console every few minutes or so, and I was hoping someone could tell me what it means and how to get rid of it. What I get is: syslog: can't open NetInfo parent domain It doesn't seem like it's causing problems, but I'd like to get rid of it. This computer is the only OpenStep computer in our network, and there shouldn't be any parent domain to talk to. I poked around in the NetInfo manager, but couldn't find where this parent domain would have been defined. Thanks! John jkwatson@nwu.edu
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Interesting (to me at least) realization about OS and libraries Date: 3 Dec 1997 17:11:16 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6643rk$66v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been keenly aware of the fact that sometimes computers go screwy for no particular reason, esp when they are of the Intel variety. I have also realized that one major concern is the shared libraries. Many programs (fsck, rm, and mount, to name a few important ones!) depend on shared libraries (most of the really key ones seem to rely on /NextLibrary/Frameworks/System.framework/Versions/A/System). Since we don't have the source code, we can't make statically linked binaries of these programs (and I haven't been able to make any statically linked versions of 'zsh' or other programs I've tried anyway). However I did discover a few programs which are built statically linked, including 'sh' (of course) and 'mv'. This may seem obvious, but it is really important to have backup copies of your shlibs on your main drive (you may not be able to run the mount command!) Obviously you can boot from a CD-ROM, mount your drive and handle it that way, but having copies of them around (uncompressed!) is another precaution. Worst case scenario you should still be able to 'mv' them into place. just a thought...... TjL ps -- this was all under OS4.1... not sure how true any of the above is for any other version -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: jimmord@paragon-software.com (John Immordino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Toshiba Tecra 750 videochip Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 16:26:32 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <348585f1.58398015@nnrp.digex.net> References: <663q0e$g5e15@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> On 3 Dec 1997 14:23:10 GMT, phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) wrote: >Hello, > >now that the 730 and 740 Toshiba Tecra notebook series finally >give you a 1024x768 colour (16bit) display, thanks to Bifrost >Workstations, Inc. and their fine drivers for C&T 6555x chips, >Toshiba moves to an S3/Virge chip with the 750 series. > >Can someone please make a (qualified) statement about if I >can have NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP (the latter is more imporant, but >it shouldn't read Rhapsody alias OpenStep to come) run in >a colour 1024x768 mode with the available drivers? > I have OS4.2 for Mach running on my 750CDT. The Apple-supplied S3Virge driver works just fine at 10x7/555 as long as you specify a 60 Hz refresh rate in the configuration. This is not the resulting refresh rate - just an indicator to the driver to use the default. Also, the Yamaha OPL3-SA3 audio chip in the 750CDT is marginally compable with the SoundBlaster8 (IRQ5 DMA1) driver AND the MicrosoftSouindSystem (IRQ9 DMA0,1) driver. One needs to rearrange a few IRQ's in the latter case to avoid conflicts with the internal modem. Can't play lengthy sounds with either driver, but MicrosoftSouindSystem works well enough for short ones. The SystemBeep driver works also, so one doesn't end up with a mute machine in any case. - John
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From: Mark Reilly <reillyof@hhs.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re:Advice on Printer & Modem Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 17:46:53 -0500 Organization: Reilly Medical Office Message-ID: <34809B55.990E2EC4@hhs.net> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.971124012040.17809A-100000@alycia.dementia.org> <65bqsk$eq4@nntp02.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Does anyone have experience connecting a Epson Stylus Color 800 printer to a NeXT box running OS 4.1? If so is a special cable required or can you use the mac compatiable one. Also what driver would your recomend? Additionally, I recall previous post regarding replacement parts (ie. rollers) for the NeXT laser any pointers would be helpfull. I am also intrested in upgrading my 14.4 modem, which is mostly used for internet access. Can a cable modem be connected to a NeXT box? Is there a significant performance advantage? Can the modem be connected through the DSP port? If so should this be attempted. All assistance is appreciated. Thanks, Mark
From: boom@sonyx.com Subject: Seagate SCSI TR4 8 gig, anyone? Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 16:03:54 -0600 Message-ID: <880567937.12143@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: Deja News Posting Service hi folks - just wondering, has anyone had any experience with the Seagate 8 gig TR4 scsi tape drive? it seems to be very well priced, but I am afraid of throwing away money on it... thanks in advance for any advice! erik scheirer sonYx, Inc. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: "Rosvita Dolstra" <jtownsend@mistral.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.next.misc,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Q: Problems Installing 3.1 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 07:14:26 -0000 Organization: Easimedia Consulting Ltd Message-ID: <65trt0$qf0$1@news.mistral.co.uk> Hi, there, I can't find a setup group, so here goes... I'm trying to install Version 3.1 of NEXTSTEP, and am getting to following errors while booting from the install floppy: pcpointer probe - mouseinit failure (found floppy) SMC16 - not linked SMC16 - couldn't find class EtherExpress - not linked EtherExpress - couldn't find class No CD-ROM found use SD%d, hd%d, fd%d Any suggestions ? The CD-ROM is a TEAC CD-524E, and works fine under NT, 95 and Warp I dont have SCSI or Ethernet 64MB RAM Thanks for any help. (^_^)
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Interesting (to me at least) realization about OS and libraries Date: 4 Dec 1997 16:42:11 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <666mh3$n5g$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <6643rk$66v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <6645u2$2sm$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: cswiger@blacksmith.com In <6645u2$2sm$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Chuck Swiger wrote: > No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > > I have also realized that one major concern is the shared libraries. > > Many programs (fsck, rm, and mount, to name a few important ones!) depend > > on shared libraries (most of the really key ones seem to rely on > > NextLibrary/Frameworks/System.framework/Versions/A/System). > Yes-- this was a screwup on someone's part. The essential system utilities > invoked from the /etc/rc scripts should *always* be linked staticly. Or at > least 'sh' (which they did do right), 'mount', and 'fsck'. Except that under OS 4.2... ivyhouse:/tmp:% cat hello.c #include <stdio.h> int main (int argc, char *argv[]) { fputs ("Hello World\n", stdout); exit (0); } ivyhouse:/tmp:% cc -static hello.c -o hello /bin/ld: Undefined symbols: __dyld_func_lookup Yep. It looks like it's impossible to compile anything with static linkage. Some other things are broken too: ivyhouse:/tmp:% cc -s hello.c -o hello bin/ld: can't use -s with input files containg indirect symbols (output file must contain at least global symbols, for maximum stripping use -x) So you have to say: ivyhouse:/tmp:% cc -Wl,-x hello.c -o hello Surely `-s' should strip out all the symbols as far as possible except what's needed to run. Even if that means that the `-s' and `-x' arguments to /bin/ld have the same effect. Notice too how the `file' command can no-longer tell if a binary is stripped, statically link or what. Matthew -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Interesting (to me at least) realization about OS and libraries Date: 4 Dec 1997 17:31:14 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <666pd2$fo3$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <6643rk$66v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <6645u2$2sm$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <666mh3$n5g$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) wrote: >> Yes-- this was a screwup on someone's part. The essential system >> utilities invoked from the /etc/rc scripts should *always* be linked >> staticly. Or at least 'sh' (which they did do right), 'mount', and >> 'fsck'. > > Except that under OS 4.2... > > ivyhouse:/tmp:% cat hello.c > #include <stdio.h> > > int > main (int argc, char *argv[]) > { > fputs ("Hello World\n", stdout); > exit (0); > } > ivyhouse:/tmp:% cc -static hello.c -o hello > /bin/ld: Undefined symbols: > __dyld_func_lookup > > Yep. It looks like it's impossible to compile anything with static > linkage. Not quite: 27-tellus% cat > test.c int main() { return 1; } 28-tellus% cc -g -static -nostdlib -o test test.c 29-tellus% ./test zsh: 1385 bus error (core dumped) ./test You can compile, at least, although this promptly coredumps. Oh, you wanted to use any system libraries? You wanted the executable to be able to actually do something? Well, basic problem: NeXT didn't bother making staticly-linked versions of their shared libraries available. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Q: Problems Installing 3.1 Date: 4 Dec 1997 17:33:43 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <666phn$fo3$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <65trt0$qf0$1@news.mistral.co.uk> [ ...newsgroups trimmed... ] "Rosvita Dolstra" <jtownsend@mistral.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, there, > I can't find a setup group, so here goes... > I'm trying to install Version 3.1 of NEXTSTEP, and am getting to following [ ... ] > The CD-ROM is a TEAC CD-524E, and works fine under NT, 95 and Warp > I dont have SCSI or Ethernet Didn't you already ask the same question a week or two ago? You *cannot* install NS 3.1 without SCSI. RTFM.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.next.misc,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Q: Problems Installing 3.1 Date: 4 Dec 1997 17:38:09 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <666pq1$n5g$2@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <65trt0$qf0$1@news.mistral.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: jtownsend@mistral.co.uk In <65trt0$qf0$1@news.mistral.co.uk> "Rosvita Dolstra" wrote: > I'm trying to install Version 3.1 of NEXTSTEP and later: > I dont have SCSI There's the problem. You can't install NeXTStep 3.1 on a non-SCSI system. The earliest version that would support EIDE/ATAPI was NS 3.3, and even then you need to down load the improved drivers from NeXTanswers. Cheers, Matthew [Posted and mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: Henry McGilton <henry@trilithon.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Quantum Fireball ST2.1S Data Sheet Needed Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 09:47:47 -0800 Organization: Trilithon Research and Trading Message-ID: <3486ECC3.88BD78B9@trilithon.com> References: <347DE52C.393FA79D@trilithon.com> <663osj$fed$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to all who replied to my request for the Fireball data sheet. I did visit the Quantum web site, several times, and with the help of a few people, managed to track down various and sundry manuals. Regards, ........ Henry
From: karl@ensuing.com (Karl Kraft) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Interesting (to me at least) realization about OS and libraries Date: 5 Dec 1997 00:49:34 GMT Organization: Ensuing Technologies Message-ID: <667j2u$4no$1@gte2.gte.net> References: <6643rk$66v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <6643rk$66v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > Since we don't have the source code, we can't make statically > linked binaries of these programs (and I haven't been able to > make any statically linked versions of 'zsh' or other programs > I've tried anyway). Of course a really cool way to solve this would be to write a program that converts a dynamiclly linked program to a staticlly linked version. This way you could convert any program you wanted from dynamic to static, so that things like ftp sites wouldn't need to have /shlib available. It would seem that since a dynamically liked program has a list of symbols it needs from the shlib, and the shlib has a pointer to them, that you could take the two and marry them together. However, I don't think you would be allowed to distribute anything that had been statically linked since it would contain code that belonged to Apple. Just a thought. -- --K2 karl@ensuing.com (Karl Kraft) OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer: cogitamus alius.
From: michael@meetmeonline.nospam.com (Michael) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Apple Supports Only OpenStep Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 22:41:03 -0600 Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Message-ID: <E329D959FBFCE9FA.5EA9E09F7A4DBD59.39A0A3C8DCA6CC33@library-proxy.airnews.net> References: <34745a13.1319524@news.gatech.edu> <659tgc$lm2$1@usenet88.supernews.com> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Sun Nov 23 22:38:07 1997 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I haven't checked lately but does Microsoft still support Windows 2.0? Heck it's only two or so versions old. I tend to agree with Apple in this particular case. It's just not economical to support that stuff forever. Michael. In article <659tgc$lm2$1@usenet88.supernews.com>, fwilliam@eaglenet.com (Frank Williams) wrote: > Apple is at again. I am so tired of the them not supporting this and not > supporting that. I was a loyal Apple II customer for years and they cut > support. I am now a loyal NS customer and when I thought I was out of > their clutches they pull me back in; they are now cutting NS support. > Atleast 3.3 in feb and 4.0 in Dec. How can apple expect to survive if > they continue to alienate their custoemrs? > > No body hates Microsoft more than me (well may a few do) but they are > still supporting windows 3.1 for godsake. I guess this explains why who > bailed who out. > > Just frustrated > v/r > Frank > > Brian K. Meadows (bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu) wrote: > : I just got a letter from Apples Enterprise Technical Support that > : spells which Next software products will still receive technical > : support after 2/28/98. Everything else is no longer supported > : effective immediately or is dropped by Apple no latter than the end of > : 28FEB98. > > : Here is the list of supported software: > > : Enterprise Objects Framework 1.2, 2.0, 2.1 > > : OpenStep Enterprise 4.1, 4.2 > > : OpenStep Release 4.2 Developer & User > > : PDO Release 4.0 > > : WebObjects 3.0, 3.1 Developer & Deployment > > > : Guess this is a case of "march or die." > > > : Brian
From: Oben Candemir <dunya@one.net.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Linux & NS -- did Linux kill my NeXT partition? Date: 5 Dec 1997 01:41:31 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <667m4b$7lg$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dunya@one.net.au Hi to all who read this. I have installed Linux on a partition on my SCSI disk and Linux has replaced the NeXT bootloader. I thought I could use LILO to boot NeXT and I was able to for some time... however something has now made this impossible and LILO says there is no valid boot signature for the NeXTstep partition... I do not know how to make my NeXtstep partition boot... I have set it as the active partition however this leads to rubbish at the start of booting... Is my NeXT partition trashed? A Million thanks to anyone who can help.... Oben Candemir Sydney Australia Reply to Oben<dunya@one.net.au> {{ Note: I have posted this for Oben who emailed it to me -- TjL }}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Cylinder group sizing Message-ID: <EKGpB4.1MM@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <65n0db$hv5$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 13:54:36 GMT In article <65n0db$hv5$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> writes: > Scott Hess <shess@shell.one.net> wrote: > > My question is, given the current size of hard drives, are 8M > > cylinder groups reasonable? I mean, 8M is only 1/256 of a 2Gig > > drive. Anyone around who remembers how many cylinder groups > > they used to use back when FFS was being created? I'm wondering > > if it would be useful to use 64M or better cylinder groups... > > I think they probably still are reasonable, since the typical > size of files on a filesystem hasn't changed all that much. I > suspect that if you had lots of really small files (aka a news > spool), or fewer big files (aka a set of 10-100 MB database files) > then changing the cylinder group size might make more of a useful > difference. > Cylinder groups were introduced to allow for optimized head movement (i-nodes and leaves in the filesystem get less scattered) and to make use of file access locality (the head doesn't have to travel long ways to the root i-node of the next file). Cylinder groups are in more than one way associated with the avarage file size you need to store. Many small files (like a Usenet server, for instance) need large numbers of i-nodes and small allocation blocks (the minimum amount of disk space (leaf nodes) allocated to a single file. Therefore you need many cylinder groups since the ratio of i-nodes to leaf nodes in a cylinder group is limited (upper and lower bounds). For large files like audio/video sequences (databases, at least for serious use, are normally installed on raw devices to spare overhead from filesystem operations) the optimum is on the other side of the spectrum. You learn about the different bounds and limits by playing around with filesystem generation tools. Try to find an unused partition, study the man-pages on 'newfs', 'tuenesfs', and 'mkfs' and then play around generating differently parametrized filesystems. BTW, when Berkley Fast Filesystem was invented cylinder groups had a kind of physical reality. In the times of SCSI some "supertuners" go to the length of recreating this pysical reality by reverse computing block numbers for cylinder boundaries for to optimize partition and filesystem layout. If you manage to do that right you can probably get a few percent of improvement during read operations. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: External Hard Disk Backup Questions!! Message-ID: <EKGq7L.1oz@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <nospam-ya023680002411970335510001@news.slip.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 14:14:08 GMT In article <nospam-ya023680002411970335510001@news.slip.net> nospam@please.net (steven gougi) writes: > I have installed a Mac- Formatted external hard disk onto my NeXT > Color Turbo running NS 3.2, correctly jumpered and terminated. > > Pray tell : How do I format this disk ? I tried doing this with > the Disk Initialization command, only to seemingly reduce it's > size from 760Mb, to a paltry 609 Mb! > What do you mean by "Disk Initialization command"? There is '/etc/disk', and for the GUI-addicted there is BuildDisk.app. And the latter lets you make bootable copies of the operating system and NEXTSTEP utilities the easy way. BTW, the reduction from 760MB to 609 MB by going from HFS to FFS is plausible. On one hand is the different way of computing available space (HFS includes some overhead that goes into the resource forks and is counted as belonging to the file). On the other hand the overhed is associated with speed optimizations needed for to accomodate multiproceesing associated concurent access. > Having succesfully formatted, how do I make a complete backup > copy of my internal hard disk to the external, without going to > the trouble of reinstalling and configuring everything from > scratch? > After having permanently associated the new filesystem to a mount point (man-page on 'fstab') you can copy filesystems in whole or part by means of 'ditto'. And, as I already said, making bootable copies of NEXSTEP the easy way is done by means of BuildDisk.app. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Linux & NeXT Network Message-ID: <EKGqHI.1pq@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <65nsmu$2ev$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 14:20:06 GMT In article <65nsmu$2ev$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) writes: > After years of owing a single NeXT 68k I now have a Linux machine > sitting beside it. I want to be able to transfer files between the > machines with ethernet and am afraid I know nothing of networks. > > In reading the NeXT Sysadmin guide I find I get headaches for 2 > reasons: a) I have no idea how the network should be organized. > Do I use Netinfo as suggested? Can it really be the configuration > server for the Linux box? Should it be? b) the documents are > 7 years old and the applications in the book no longer look like, > or even have the same name, as the ones in NeXTAdmin. > > My question is: What is the recommended way to hook up a single > NeXT and non-next Unix box via ethernet? All advice is appreciated. > All the basics are covered in the chapter on "Mixed Networks" in the online sysadmin manual (/NextLibrary/Bookshelves/SysAdmin.bshlf). That should do for a starter. And even for the more intricate matters like 'sendmail' configuration the online manual should give enough guidance. I myself found it satisfying. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: dhassell@diamond.tufts.edu (David Hassell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: One monitor/keyboard, two slabs Date: 5 Dec 1997 02:59:04 GMT Organization: Tufts University Message-ID: <667qlo$kt$1@news3.tufts.edu> I just got a second turbo slab, and I was wondering if a little switch was a availale so that I could just use the one set of monitor/keyboard/mouse/soundbox since they just the single connection to the box. For now, I just switch the cable back and forth which isn't too bad, but it'd be nice if something like that was available. Any suggestions? - Dave -- David Hassell dhassell@emerald.tufts.edu Tufts Varsity Crew @diamond.tufts.edu Residential Computer Consultant, @eecs.tufts.edu Area Supervisor http://www.tufts.edu/~dhassell/crew.html
From: cam@_SpAmThIs.escape.ca (Cam Giesbrecht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Get an error while installing Rhapsody Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:13:13 -0600 Organization: Apple Orchard Software Message-ID: <cam-3011971213130001@tnt01dla033.escape.ca> References: <01bcfab9$12cc3d80$44cd09c0@machine.cornut.fr> In article <01bcfab9$12cc3d80$44cd09c0@machine.cornut.fr>, "Roger FLATTIN" <rflattin@cornut.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > I try to install Rhapsody on a PowerMacintosh 8500 but I get the following > message : > > The disk has an invalid label. > > (my disk is a Seagate ST32550N. It's SCSI ID is 1 and it is plugged in the > internal SCSI bus) > > The message appears when the installer scan the SCSI bus to display the > list of the connected disks. > > I install it successfully on a 500 Mo hard disk (it was numbered ID 4 on > the external SCSI bus). Then I try to configure the /etc/disktab but the > disklabel and disk utilities always return error messages. > > The man pages doesn't clearly explain why a disk must be labelled. Could > anybody explain me how it works ? > > Thanks in advance > > Roger FLATTIN I just thought that I would warn you that discussion of products covered under a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) in public with people not covered under such NDA is a violation of the NDA. Apple could prosecute and/or discontinue your participation in any "seeding" projects (Rhapsody, MacOS 8.1, OS 9, etc.) -- Cam Giesbrecht - HyperCard Programmer - MacOS(TM) System Specialist - Windows 95, NT 4.0 Workstation and Server Specialist - MCSE in training - Registered Apple Developer and beta tester Consultations and Software Solutions Apple Orchard Software Remove text in ALL CAPS to reply. Winnipeg, Mb Canada (Not affiliated with "Orchard Software" of Cambridge MA)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Interesting (to me at least) realization about OS and libraries Date: 5 Dec 1997 04:43:57 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <6680qd$r9k$1@news.digifix.com> References: <6643rk$66v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <667j2u$4no$1@gte2.gte.net> In-Reply-To: <667j2u$4no$1@gte2.gte.net> On 12/04/97, Karl Kraft wrote: >In article <6643rk$66v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> >No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > >> Since we don't have the source code, we can't make statically >> linked binaries of these programs (and I haven't been able to >> make any statically linked versions of 'zsh' or other programs >> I've tried anyway). > >Of course a really cool way to solve this would be to write a >program that converts a dynamiclly linked program to a staticlly >linked version. This way you could convert any program you >wanted from dynamic to static, so that things like ftp sites >wouldn't need to have /shlib available. > >It would seem that since a dynamically liked program has a list >of symbols it needs from the shlib, and the shlib has a pointer >to them, that you could take the two and marry them together. >However, I don't think you would be allowed to distribute anything >that had been statically linked since it would contain code that >belonged to Apple. For those who are compling things for themselves (like the replacements from GNU for basic OpenStep utils) what would be the way around this? -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: "Martin Ghner" <Martin_Gaehner@amg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Nextstep 3.3 with Token-Ring Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:16:09 +0100 Organization: AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH Message-ID: <347AEBB9.4E4FD695@amg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ive got a serious problem according to the use of Nextstep 3.3-Intel-Workstations in an Token-Ring enviroment. Every time I want to transfer an file from one of the Nextstep-Workstations to another Operating-System than NS (eg. Solaris, OS/2, WIN/NT) the filetransfer is very slow. A 1,4 MB-File is transfered in up to 25 seconds. But, transferring the same file between two NS-Workstations of from one of the written OP-Systems to a NS-Station the file would be transfered in only 2.5 seconds or less. As a TR-Adapter we use the IBM-Tokenring 16/4 Auto-Adapter, the used device-driver is the original IBM-Token-Ring driver from Next in Version 3.39. The speed of the Token-Ring is set to 16MBit. With a trace over the netperformance and IP-Traffic, we can see that there are no errors like lost or bad packets - everything seems to work good on the TR-Net. Does anybody of You have a suggestion why the transfer to another OP-System in a Token-Ring enviroment is slow? -- --- Mit freundlichen Gruessen i.A. Martin Gaehner AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH Telefon 0231 / 97 53 54 - 0 Telefax 0231 / 97 53 54 - 55 E-Mail maga@amg.de
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Interesting (to me at least) realization about OS and libraries Date: 5 Dec 1997 14:32:26 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <66939q$eq1$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <6643rk$66v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <667j2u$4no$1@gte2.gte.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: karl@ensuing.com In <667j2u$4no$1@gte2.gte.net> Karl Kraft wrote: > In article <6643rk$66v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> > No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > > > Since we don't have the source code, we can't make statically > > linked binaries of these programs (and I haven't been able to > > make any statically linked versions of 'zsh' or other programs > > I've tried anyway). > > Of course a really cool way to solve this would be to write a program that > converts a dynamiclly linked program to a staticlly linked version. This > way you could convert any program you wanted from dynamic to static, so > that things like ftp sites wouldn't need to have /shlib available. That would be cool. It would be even cooler if it could take a dylib or shlib and turn it into a static library. As for building things like ftp daemons that will run in a chroot()ed environment under OS 4.2 --- it's a nightmare. Whilst the /NextLibrary/Frameworks structure is very cool for GUI apps and the like, there's still a lot to be said for having shared libraries in one place (ie. /usr/shlib) for Unix utilities. In the end I gave up on building wu-ftpd under OS 4.2 and just compiled it under NS 3.3. > It would seem that since a dynamically liked program has a list of symbols > it needs from the shlib, and the shlib has a pointer to them, that you > could take the two and marry them together. However, I don't think you > would be allowed to distribute anything that had been statically linked > since it would contain code that belonged to Apple. In <6680qd$r9k$1@news.digifix.com>, Scott Anguish wrote > For those who are compling things for themselves (like the replacements > from GNU for basic OpenStep utils) what would be the way around this? Well, for the most part only a few apps or utils would need this treatment --- being made into staticly linked binaries, that is. Basically just the stuff you would need to recover a slightly hosed system from single user mode (eg. sh, mknod, fsck, mount and the like) really needs to be staticly linked. Stuff like FTP daemons that you want to use chroot() on for security reasons could also use static linkage, or they could be dynamically linked against copies of the shlibs accessible from the chroot()'ed environment. About the only GUI app that could ever need to be compiled statically like that would be Upgrader.app, which has potentially to be able to run on many different versions of the OS. As for distributing pre-compiled staticly linked binaries, I shouldn't think that would be a problem. After all, they will still only *work* on systems running OpenStep already, so Apple wouldn't have lost out on any revenues either way.. You might find it trickier to get away with binaries compiled to run standalone, ie. on the bare machine without any operating system, but that's a whole other kettle of fish. Cheers, Matthew -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: colombet@arles.timone.univ-mrs.fr (Bruno Colombet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Pb accessing my TCP/IP printer Date: 5 Dec 1997 15:26:41 GMT Organization: Universites d' Aix en Provence Message-ID: <6696fh$d1h$1@news.univ-aix.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I want to print on my Phaser 220i which is a network printer. I configured its ip address and when I ping the printer it respond to me, so it's ok at this moment. Using the PrinterManager app I created a new printer, private. For the communication ports, I can choose between serial, parallel and JP JetDirect. HP JetDirect port is used to access a HP printer we've got via TCP/IP. HP JetDirect seems to be the only port which authorizes TCP/IP connections, so I choose this one. My new printer is created, I can access the queue but I cannot print anything. Each time I trie to print or even print the test page, the queue still empty and no datas reach the printer. I guess HP JetDirect is specific to HP Printers. So how can I access a TCP/IP printer unsing another way? Thanks to help me again. -- Bruno Colombet Laboratoire de Neuropsychologie et de Neurophysiologie Faculte de Medecine 27 Bd Jean Moulin 13385 Marseille cedex 05 +33 4 91 32 44 61 colombet@arles.timone.univ-mrs.fr
From: "Fred H Biebesheimer" <gunslngr@televar.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help OS 4.0 Install/Stealth 3D? Problem Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:41:22 -0800 Message-ID: <347b9a41.0@bartlett> Hi all, I've been trying to install OS 4.0 on my intel machine. Everything seems to go okay until I'm asked to remove the disk and reboot. The machine goes thru the verbose reboot okay, and then the screen goes black and the world ends. The video card is a Diamond Stealth 3d 3000, installed on an ABIT it5h motherboard with a P166 and 64 megs of ram. Does anybody have any suggestions or comments? Thanks in advance, Fred Biebesheimer. gunslngr@televar.com
From: fliu@r2d2.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: How to get more than 1 NeXT partions on 1 EIDE drive? Date: 5 Dec 1997 18:32:40 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Distribution: world Message-ID: <669hc8$dj9@news.service.uci.edu> I have a Quantum 3.8GB EIDE drive on my NeXT Intel running OS 4.1. Currently, I have Partition 1: NT, 1GB Partition 2: NeXT OS, 1GB I'd like to have the rest as one NeXT partition for user home directories, or probably make it to be 2 NeXT partitions, one for /usr/local and one as /home. fdisk does not seem to allow me to get a 2nd NeXT partions, anyway around? With larger than 2GB drives ubiquitous these days and Next not being able to have more than 2GB partitions(as far as I remember people say on the net), there must be a way of getting more than 1 next partitions on one IDE drive(I know you can do it with SCSI with some editing of disktab, but I do not know how to do it with IDE). Any help is appreciated. Feng Liu MAE department University of California, Irvine
From: boom@sonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: gateway setup help! Date: 6 Dec 1997 04:18:13 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <66ajm5$n5u$1@news2.digex.net> Summary: gateway setup help! Keywords: gateway hi all i am having an interesting time of things trying to set up the PPP box on my local net to be the gateway to the internet via the ppp0 interface. i hae tried just about everything i can think of using "route" to try to build a proper routing table. what works to send packets out only is route add <outside net> <gateway> 1, but of course, the packets don't make it back... any help/hints would be appreciated! erik scheirer sonYx, Inc.
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? Date: 6 Dec 1997 07:16:20 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <66au44$ahk$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <65lnpg$2te$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> <669sqj$l0e$1@news2.digex.net> boom@sonyx.com wrote: >In PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? comp.sys.next.sysadmin "Andrew K" <akwong@mcs.com> writes, > >> Hi ALL, >> >> Anyone know if there are porxy server for NS or OS? >> >> I have ppp dialup setup on a OpenStep Box and I would like to allow other >> machines connected on the same network to share the connection. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Andy >> > >There is a very simple way of doing that for HTTP, without having to go through all sorts of gateway config. stuff: get Apache, compile it having set up the makefile to include the proxy module in your build, build it, and then run it on the machine that has the PPP cnx. then, on other hosts on your local subnet, just set the proxy server to http://address.of.ppp.apache.machine and voila! you have instant web access. > >the whole thing should take about 15 mins or so after you have downloaded Apache :) You could also check out Squid at http://squid.nlanr.net/ It is claimed to be than using a Web server that does the same task. You be the judge. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: pzagiel@odyssey.lu (ghg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: boot manager disapear after installing windows95 Date: 5 Dec 1997 23:51:56 GMT Organization: hghgh Message-ID: <pzagiel-0502570153540001@cafc.eunet.be> I have a disk with one partition for openstep 4.2 and the other one with windows95. Everything was working fine since i reinstall windows95.This reinstallation erase i think the openstep bootmanager. So my system boot on windows95. The only way to boot on openstep is to change the active partition with fdisk. Is there a way to restore the orginal openstep bootmanager pzagiel@odyssey.lu Zagiel Patrick (Brussel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:36:27 -0000 Message-ID: <65hmmr$asl$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Subject: Turning a Disk into a Boot disk without reformatting Organization: none Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a drive that I would like to make the boot drive... However, it has 1 gig (out of 2) of information on it which I would like to leave in place. Is there any way to make this work? On one level I don't see why not, if I can copy over all the necessary files. On another level, with links and permissions I wonder if it can be done. Also: does being a ``regular'' disk differ from being a ``boot disk'' under NS? If so, is there a way to make a drive 'active'? Final Q: The current label on the disk is 'Disk2' -- does this need to be just plain 'Disk' if it is to be sd0 or does it matter? Thanks TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
Message-ID: <34842C1B.2A090A5C@cadvision.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 08:41:16 -0700 From: Brent <charlebb@cadvision.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: makemap for sendmail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: CADVision Development Corporation (http://www.cadvision.com/) Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has makemap for Nextstep or if there is a way around using it. I have to make my textbased generics file into a database for sendmail. I have sendmail 8.8.5 and Nextstep 3.3. I've looked high and low but cannot find makemap compiled for Nextstep anywhere. Thanks in advance, Brent
From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: IMAP4 Server OpenStep? Date: 2 Dec 1997 19:33:49 GMT Organization: CSUnet Message-ID: <661nqt$pq6$2@nuke.csu.net> References: <34824944.E94D55EF@bah.com> Hi, I built a working copy up at http://next.ireadyco.com/~thomas I have it running on NS 3.3 for Motorola and Openstep 4.2 for Sparc. I also have clients compiled on Rhapsody. Thomas Chong Tim (chong_tim@bah.com) wrote: : Hi all, : Have anyone tried U of Washington's IMAP4 server implementation on any : OpenStep box? : TIA, : TC -- <>+<> ////// __v__ __\/__ `\|||/ /---\ """"""" | _ - | (_____) . / ^ _ \ . (q p) | o o | <^-@-@-^> (| o O |) .( O O ), |\| (o)(o) |/| _ooO_<_>_Ooo_ooO_U_Ooo_ooO__v__Ooo_ooO_u_Ooo_ooO__(_)__Ooa__oOO_()_OOo___ [_____}_____!____.}_____{_____|_____}_____i____.}_____!_____{_____}_____] __.}____.|_____{_____!____.}_____|_____{.____}_____|_____}_____|_____!___ [_____{_____}_____|_____}_____i_____}_____|_____}_____i_____{_____}_____]
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From: Alex Malone <malone@zk3.dec.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: OS 4.2 install w/ATAPI cdrom Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 17:40:57 -0500 Organization: CTG Message-ID: <34848E79.41C6@zk3.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have been unable to install Openstep 4.2 Intel using ATAPI cdrom drives. I have attempted this with two different setups: pentium 90, dual EIDE, 8X NEC ATAPI cdrom pentium 120, dual EIDE, 24X Newcom ATAPI cdrom Whether or not I have the cdroms as a slave on the primary IDE or as a master on the secondary IDE, I get the same result... I get to the second install disk, and choose the dual EIDE/ATAPI driver, and then proceed to the kernel boot. The EIDE driver probes and finds the IDE disk, and then finds the cdrom and prints out a description of the drive, followed by a statement like 'sd0 at ata0'. (I don't have the log in front of me) Then the driver times out waiting for the cdrom to become 'Ready'. Is there an updated driver that I need? Thanks, Alex Malone
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From: parse@my.sig-below.net (Many Thanks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: disk utility won't respect disktab partitions Date: 7 Dec 1997 13:08:43 GMT Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <66e74r$8pc$1@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu> BACKGROUND: I'm tryint to install a 2.1GB IBM UltraStar 2ES under NS 3.3 on black hardware. PROBLEM: The disk utility will ignore my disktab entry and instead partitions the disk roughly in half. DETAILS: Using NeXTAnswers # 1533 and scsimodes as my guide, I've built the following entry in /etc/disktab DCAS-32160|IBM DCAS-32160|IBM DCAS-32160-512:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#8188:nt#3:ns#171:ss#512:rm#5400:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#15:\ :oa=time:ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#4194304:sb#32100:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#15:\ :ob=time:ib:tb=4.3BSD: But when I call disk from the command line, I get myhost# disk -t IBM_DCAS-32160 -i /dev/rsd1a disk name: IBM_DCAS-32160 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/boot creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1056601 86 3 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: 167 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 1056601 sectors in 4096 cylinders of 3 tracks, 86 sectors 1082.0Mb in 256 cyl groups (16 c/g, 4.23Mb/g, 960 i/g) ... ... creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1b /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1b /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1b 1056601 86 3 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: 167 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1b: 1056601 sectors in 4096 cylinders of 3 tracks, 86 sectors 1082.0Mb in 256 cyl groups (16 c/g, 4.23Mb/g, 960 i/g) ... ... WHAT GIVES? I thought if I had a disktab entry I wouldn't need to use the -p flag. Any help, hints or suggestions would be most welcome. Best, -- invert: umich.edu jdevlin insert: shift "2"
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NS3.3 login problem when renumbering IP addresses. Date: 6 Dec 1997 22:05:49 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Dec6160552@slave.doubleu.com> This one has me stumped. Since NeXT gear used to ship with IP addresses in the 192.42.172.0/24 range, and since I've never had my LAN hooked up to The Internet with a straight router gateway, my internal network is allocated from teh 192.42.172.* network. Since this isn't "cool", I recently decided to renumber it to a "real" unroutable network, 192.168.x.x. I also elected to take the oppourtunity to sanitize the host numbering scheme (reserving .1 for the default gateway, all clients in a range that could be subnetted, etc). After the renumbering, I was able to login to my NeXTstation running NS3.2 fine, into a SparcStation running OS4.2 fine, and into an Intel box running OS4.2. I could boot the Intel box to NS3.3, and login over the net, but whenever I attempted to login to the console, any user account, Workspace would start starting up and quickly pop up a panel saying "Try to save changes to files in other applications before logging out.", and my CPU load would go to 100% system time. I could login remotely and kill off the offending Workspace.app process, but I couldn't login from the console. The only error message I could find was in /tmp/console.log, and said "Cannot open volume driver". I renumbered things back to 192.42.172.*, and it works fine. But it wasn't really the renumbering of the Intel system in question that caused the problem - because the last octet of that system's IP address is still different. When returning to the working version, I only renumbered the network address, so the host's address is still different (was 192.42.172.2, now 192.42.172.10). Anyone have any ideas? I surely don't, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: liuyi@dragon-dance.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: netinfo question Date: 6 Dec 1997 23:23:18 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <slrn68jng1.1el.liuyi@caiman.dragon-dance.com> References: <6642fr$ofk@news.acns.nwu.edu> <EKrFD1.Fo1@nidat.sub.org> On Sat, 6 Dec 1997 08:53:25 GMT, Peter Nitezki <Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org> wrote: > In article <6642fr$ofk@news.acns.nwu.edu> jkwatson@merle.acns.nwu.edu > (John Watson) writes: > > ...a messy netinfo config... > > What I get is: > > syslog: can't open NetInfo parent domain > > > ... > affected. The only catchall recipe that can be given is to replace > /etc/hostconfig and /etc/netinfo/* with the files found in > /usr/templates/client/etc, reboot and run SimpleNetworkStarter.app > and HostConfig.app to personalize again. But, unfortunately, this > will destroy all customization done, so beware. Before you decide to take this "root canal" approach to your NetInfo config, there's a thing you can do to help you recover a bit quicker: * Save your non-corrupted netinfo stuff somewhere safe, e.g.: % nidump passwd . > ~/trash/netinfo/passwd % nidump group . > ~/trash/netinfo/group % nidump services ... etc., etc. * Then niload them back after the surgery. It worked for me. I just had to wipe out the local.nidb on my brother's OS4.1 box because it was such a hopeless mess. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@dragon-dance.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? Date: 7 Dec 1997 04:32:22 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <66d8sm$ld8$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <66au44$ahk$1@brie.direct.ca> <65lnpg$2te$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> <669sqj$l0e$1@news2.digex.net> <66c1s0$i7s$1@news2.digex.net> boom@sonyx.com wrote: >In Re: PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? comp.sys.next.sysadmin ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca writes, > >> boom@sonyx.com wrote: >>>In PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? comp.sys.next.sysadmin "Andrew K" >> <akwong@mcs.com> writes, >>> >>>> Hi ALL, >>>> >>>> Anyone know if there are porxy server for NS or OS? [snipped] >> >> You could also check out Squid at http://squid.nlanr.net/ >> >> It is claimed to be than using a Web server that does the same task. You be >> the judge. I meant to say: It is claimed to be faster than using a Web server that does the same task. >> >> Darren >> www.bcog.org/~dreely > >yep, squid looks good! its the same thing as using the apache server, though. am i right, the only real difference is the speed? they can both route FTP, HTTP, gopher. squid has better logging and debugging, though. The rerouting only seems to work for web browsers. What about getting it to work for the regular command line ftp or GatorFTP? I think the purpose of a proxy server is for use with the HTTP protocol only. Am I missing something? Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@subsequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: How to get more than 1 NeXT partions on 1 EIDE drive? Date: 6 Dec 1997 23:24:25 GMT Organization: Steel Driving Software, Chicago Sender: Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@isdnjhendry.cmg.fcnbd.com> Message-ID: <66cmr9$1vj@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> References: <669hc8$dj9@news.service.uci.edu> <SCOTT.97Dec5221717@slave.doubleu.com> Scott Hess <scott@doubleu.com> wrote: > Though Shalt Not Use Multiple Fdisk Partitions For NeXTSTEP > Filesystems. Unfortunately, this prevents you from having a NeXT partition and a Rhapsody partition. I recently went through heck trying to repartition my Rhapsody disk so that I could use 100 MB of it for OpenStep swapping. Couldn't do it. It may be possible, if you use some tool other than NeXT's fdisk, to change the partition type of the first NeXT partition. You could then create a second NeXT partition. Then go back and change the first partition's type back to NeXT. I've not yet found such a too, though. - Jon
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <12245880866021@digifix.com> Date: 7 Dec 1997 04:59:39 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <2329881470822@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Interesting (to me at least) realization about OS and libraries Date: 3 Dec 1997 17:46:42 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <6645u2$2sm$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <6643rk$66v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > I have also realized that one major concern is the shared libraries. Many > programs (fsck, rm, and mount, to name a few important ones!) depend on > shared libraries (most of the really key ones seem to rely on > /NextLibrary/Frameworks/System.framework/Versions/A/System). Yes-- this was a screwup on someone's part. The essential system utilities invoked from the /etc/rc scripts should *always* be linked staticly. Or at least 'sh' (which they did do right), 'mount', and 'fsck'. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: OS 4.2 install w/ATAPI cdrom Date: 3 Dec 1997 06:48:39 GMT Organization: T-Online Message-ID: <662vc7$1tn$1@news02.btx.dtag.de> References: <34848E79.41C6@zk3.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Alex Malone <malone@zk3.dec.com> We have had the same problem... chose for one of your devices the Adaptec 2940 and the Eide for the otherone. It worked fine.. Alexander Dietz Alex Malone wrote: > Hi, > I have been unable to install Openstep 4.2 Intel using > ATAPI cdrom drives. I have attempted this with two different > setups: > pentium 90, dual EIDE, 8X NEC ATAPI cdrom > pentium 120, dual EIDE, 24X Newcom ATAPI cdrom > Whether or not I have the cdroms as a slave on the primary > IDE or as a master on the secondary IDE, I get the same result... > > I get to the second install disk, and choose the dual EIDE/ATAPI > driver, and then proceed to the kernel boot. The EIDE driver > probes and finds the IDE disk, and then finds the cdrom and prints > out a description of the drive, followed by a statement like > 'sd0 at ata0'. (I don't have the log in front of me) Then > the driver times out waiting for the cdrom to become 'Ready'. > > Is there an updated driver that I need? > > Thanks, > Alex Malone
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: What is the last version of NeXTStep/Openstep for black hw ??? Date: 3 Dec 1997 17:26:09 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Message-ID: <6644nh$lcg$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <663ubf$pcu$1@urano.inet.it> "Stefano Pisati" <Stefano.Pisati@IrisTech.it> wrote: >Hi, after more than two years I finally reinstall my old 040 cube with >NeXTStep 3.3... I want to know what OS is now available (and where and how >much does it cost) that run on this very very old hw... my config is a 040 >cube with 64Mb, 1 gb HD, MO... Very old HW? This is very *neat* hw, and still sufficiently fast for most purposes. Please contact me should you ever wish to part with it. :-) Well, with 64 MB and a modern 1G disk, the cube will run _very_ well under OPENSTEP 4.2. To my knowledge. pricing hasn't changed yet, and I don't expect that it will in the foreseeable future. Best regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: "Rosvita Dolstra" <jtownsend@mistral.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Q: Problems Installing 3.1 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 21:51:15 -0000 Organization: Easimedia Consulting Ltd Message-ID: <667cdb$bn4$1@news.mistral.co.uk> References: <65trt0$qf0$1@news.mistral.co.uk> <666phn$fo3$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Thanks to all those that answered... (^_^).
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: So.... how is it done? (Re: Interesting (to me at least) realization about OS and libraries) Date: 8 Dec 1997 12:12:21 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <66go75$j4q$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <6643rk$66v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <667j2u$4no$1@gte2.gte.net> <66939q$eq1$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <669uga$puq$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please In <669uga$puq$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Tired of Spam wrote: > > Ok, I realize this is getting close to csn.programmer, but.... > > 1) is there a way to ``transform'' dynamic to static for things like 'fsck' > and whatnot (ie critical system files) No. That was just a "what if..." sort of idea. As far as I know, no unix has the capability to do that, although naively you might think it should be possible. Certainly, the capacity to compile source code to produce a statically linked binary should be available, as should a number of crucial statically linked utilities for emergency use. On BSD 4.4 (and hence Rhapsody) that's one of things the /sbin and /usr/sbin directories are there for. > 2) if so, how? Well, I guess the process would be identical to what happens when you start up a dynamically linked app, except that instead of running the app, you just write out the linked image. > 3) if not, where do we send the recommendation to the Rhapsody folks? devsupport@apple.com ? rhapsody-dev-feedback@apple.com ? Cheers, Matthew -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: What sound card is best? Date: 8 Dec 1997 20:23:50 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <66hl0m$h08@news.acns.nwu.edu> I am configuring a new system for my office. Can anyone tell me what sound card works best? I'd like the card to record as well as play. Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson Northwestern University
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Internet & Rhapsody Date: 9 Dec 1997 01:42:37 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66i7md$77g$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <nospam-0612972107590001@rpreston.ne.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rpreston@ultranet.com In <nospam-0612972107590001@rpreston.ne.mediaone.net> Oogie Boogie wrote: > My problem is simple. How the hell do I get my IP address working on > Rhapsody/OpenStep? I've tried the obvious like using SimpleNetwork, > NetInfo, etc but all I've accomplished is getting Rhapsody to not boot. > What am I missing? Is there a HostManager.app in Rhapsody? If so, I would put the information in there under the 'Local' menu item (assuming that still exists). You could also try putting it in /etc/hostconfig something like: HOSTNAME=yourhostname INETADDR=your.ip.address.here. ROUTER=router.IP.address.here IPNETMASK=255.255.255.0 IPBROADCAST=broadcase.ip.address.here NETMASTER=-NO- YPDOMAIN=-NO- TIME=-NO- All of those must be numerical (except the hostname). Also, try setting up the domain name in /etc/resolv.conf: domain your.domain.com nameserver primary.ip.dns.server nameserver secondary.ip.dns.server > I have a cable modem that I was able to get working with MkLinux so > Rhapsody shouldn't be a problem. As long as the IP is static it should work. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: varah@pacbell.net (Sean Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: What sound card is best? Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 11:28:34 -0700 Organization: Harvard Computer Music Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <varah-0912971128340001@ppp-206-170-32-201.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <66hl0m$h08@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <66hl0m$h08@news.acns.nwu.edu>, daj@nwu.edu wrote: > I am configuring a new system for my office. Can anyone tell me what sound card works best? > > I'd like the card to record as well as play. > > Thank's in advance, > > David A. Johnson > Northwestern University Hello David, If you just need cheap 16 bit sound, I think most 16 bit cards are okay on the Intel platforms right now, for playback, that is. Sound on Intel used to be (an can still be) hell. Now I think machines are fast enough, and have enough memory that most of that is behind us. We used the old Microsoft Sound System card, or the MediaVision ProAudio Basic, or equiv. For recording, you'll need Bernie Scholz's excellent "SAStudioSound.app" program. The our friend Tomas Hurka wrote a great driver for the Multiwav Pro-18/24 by AdbDigital. So, if you want REALLY good sound, excellent converters, and digital in/out (but not analog in), you can get a Multiwav, and run Tomas' driver. It's about $400 bucks. Otherwise, the other two cards above are fine (in my experience), and SoundBlasters might be okay as well. Midway between these cards is the MediaTrix card, which uses the Microsoft Sound System driver, but has slightly better signal to noise. You can get info on the Multiwav driver from the Harvard Computer Music home page: http://mario.harvard.edu Good luck, Sean Varah -------- Sean Varah Visiting Scholar, CCRMA, Stanford University Associate Director (On leave) Harvard Computer Music Center varah@pacbell.net http://www-mario.harvard.edu/cello/
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Subject: Re: How to get more than 1 NeXT partions on 1 EIDE drive? Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 11:43:15 -0600 Message-ID: <881685088.22200@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: Deja News Posting Service References: &lt;669hc8$dj9@news.service.uci.edu&gt; &lt;SCOTT.97Dec5221717@slave.doubleu.com&gt; &lt;66cmr9$1vj@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com&gt; &lt;SCOTT.97Dec8102453@slave.doubleu.com&gt; In article <SCOTT.97Dec8102453@slave.doubleu.com>, scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) wrote: > > I've heard that one of the boot menu programs, I think it was System > Commander, allows you to do such partition table juggling. > Personally, just thinking about it makes me queasy enough that I'd > rather wait until NeXT adds better support for fdisk partitions (I > assume it's only a matter of time, given their current market). I wrote a specialized boot partition juggler for this very purpose. But be warned: Apple explicitly discourages to install RDR on anything but an own, separate disk (just for the record :-) I first tried with NeXT fdisk too, but since it blanks out the first 256 bytes of a newly allocated partition it always overwrites the boot loader. Very disturbing. My program lets you toggle between a "hidden" and a "real" NeXT partition. I've had no complaints so far, but USAGE IS AT YOUR OWN RISK !! ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/droege/boot-switch.s.tar.gz Carefully read the README file before playing around with it !! > I've juggled my system to leave open a partition on a seperate disk > from my NeXTSTEP and OpenStep disks. The only remaining question is > whether I can get Rhapsody to boot from that other disk, or if I will > be forced to have Rhapsody in some "priviledged" position. The "old" boot loader (3.x, 4.x) can't start a RDR system, you'll need the new one (5.x). Most probably a byte order problem. Detlev PS: Our newshost has a disk crash, so I'm posting via another way ... -- Detlev Droege, Universitaet Koblenz, FB Informatik | Fon:+49 261 9119-421 Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany | Fax:+49 261 9119-497 NeXT/MIME/Email: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de Drop the "Drop_This." part in my Email-address to reply. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: jkwatson@merle.acns.nwu.edu (John Watson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: netinfo question Date: 9 Dec 1997 21:09:21 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL Message-ID: <66kc21$l4@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <6642fr$ofk@news.acns.nwu.edu> <EKrFD1.Fo1@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki (Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org) wrote: > In article <6642fr$ofk@news.acns.nwu.edu> jkwatson@merle.acns.nwu.edu > (John Watson) writes: > > I'm getting a netinfo message on the console every few minutes or so, > > and I was hoping someone could tell me what it means and how to get rid > > of it. > > > > What I get is: > > syslog: can't open NetInfo parent domain > > > > It doesn't seem like it's causing problems, but I'd like to get rid of > > it. This computer is the only OpenStep computer in our network, and > > there shouldn't be any parent domain to talk to. I poked around in > > the NetInfo manager, but couldn't find where this parent domain would > > have been defined. > > > That's typical for a client machine that hasn't been configured standalone > before it has ben taken out of its network environment. A very common > situation on used hardware trades. > The info resides in NetInfo in the 'serves' property of the 'machines' > subdirectories and /etc/hostconfig might also be affected. The only > catchall recipe that can be given is to replace /etc/hostconfig and > /etc/netinfo/* with the files found in /usr/templates/client/etc, reboot > and run SimpleNetworkStarter.app and HostConfig.app to personalize again. > But, unfortunately, this will destroy all customization done, so beware. Hmm. The machien doesn't even have a serves property under machines, and /etc/hostconfig looked just fine. And, I installed the system myself and configured it. Thanks for the advice, though... John
From: gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Still having "hanging" problems - 3.2 Date: 9 Dec 1997 22:42:54 GMT Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/CIRP/ Message-ID: <66khhe$jm143@biko.cc.rochester.edu> Originator: gtf@theorem I asked about this a while ago, and got no response. Fairly frequently, my machine (68k slab, 3.2) will decide to block on all Netinfo lookups. This happens for minutes at a time, up to three or four minutes. As a result, I can't even do "ls -l" at these times. By enabling logging in "lookupd", I determined that the blocking only occurs on reverse DNS lookups. Since lookupd is single-threaded in 3.2, this hangs everything else that might be waiting on lookupd. Please help. Is there something in my resolver configuration that could be causing this problem? It is extremely frustrating. Thanks g. -- Schroedinger's Cat had 4 1/2 lives. (Q: What was its half-life?!) ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)cirp.org> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
From: me_!SPAM_@traveler.uniscape.com (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Can OpenStep 4.1 do Network Address Translation Date: 9 Dec 1997 16:49:17 GMT Organization: e-Scape Information Systems Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <66jsqd$sqa$1@news.e-scape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello , Does any one know of any software that will allow OpenStep 4.1 to do network address translation? I have a machine running OpenStep 4.1 which connects to an ISP using PPP and I would like to create a small network and allow the other machines to access the Internet through the OpenStep computer. Thank you for all your help, stef -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefanos Kiakas stefanos_!SPAM_@uniscape.com Remove _!SPAM_ to email me. e-Scape Travel Magazine http://www.uniscape.com/ e-Scape Information Systems Inc. (514) 878-1084
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Still having "hanging" problems - 3.2 Date: 10 Dec 1997 00:35:33 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <66ko4l$gi0$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <66khhe$jm143@biko.cc.rochester.edu> gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) wrote: > By enabling logging in "lookupd", I determined that the blocking only > occurs on reverse DNS lookups. Since lookupd is single-threaded in 3.2, > this hangs everything else that might be waiting on lookupd. Compiling and running a modern version of the nameserver [v4.9.6 is recommended, unless you really want to go for the 8.x series] will help in several ways. For one thing, you'll get negative caching. For another, you can become a secondary for domains that you most commonly access. You'll also get a non-NetInfo resolver library which you can link programs with which will disentangle them from blocking with lookupd. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can OpenStep 4.1 do Network Address Translation Date: 10 Dec 1997 01:01:11 GMT Organization: none Distribution: world Message-ID: <66kpkn$mul$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <66jsqd$sqa$1@news.e-scape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: me_!SPAM_@traveler.uniscape.com No, NeXT|OpenStep cannot do this. I am currently waiting for a FreeBSD box to do this for my computers. I do hope that Rhapsody can do this. I would bet it would have a better chance since FreeBSD and Rhapsody are both based on BSD.4.4 but that's just my own hope/speculation. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NXHosting Question Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 21:51:45 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <66l01u$kif@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net> I read the FAQ on NXHosting and it indicates that you MUST be running the same version of the Operating System. Is this correct? I would like to be able to NXHost from my 200 MHz Intel running 4.1 to my various balck hardware running 3.3. I tried this, but ran into soem DPS error, seemingly. Mitch
From: gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Still having "hanging" problems - 3.2 Date: 10 Dec 1997 03:13:56 GMT Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/CIRP/ Message-ID: <66l1dk$kig47@biko.cc.rochester.edu> References: <66khhe$jm143@biko.cc.rochester.edu> <66ko4l$gi0$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Originator: gtf@theorem In article <66ko4l$gi0$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>, Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> wrote: >gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) wrote: >> By enabling logging in "lookupd", I determined that the blocking only >> occurs on reverse DNS lookups. Since lookupd is single-threaded in 3.2, >> this hangs everything else that might be waiting on lookupd. > >Compiling and running a modern version of the nameserver [v4.9.6 is >recommended, unless you really want to go for the 8.x series] will help in >several ways. >For one thing, you'll get negative caching. For another, you can become a >secondary for domains that you most commonly access. You'll also get a >non-NetInfo resolver library which you can link programs with which will >disentangle them from blocking with lookupd. > Hi, Thanks for your helpful suggestions. I actually have installed "named" from the BIND 4.9.6 distribution, for an unrelated reason. But I avoided installing the new resolver libs, because there are certain differences in the new header files that were causing various compiles (notably sendmail 8) to fail. Maybe this just requires a bit more effort than I was willing to expend at the time. (I would still like to know if anyone else has been having the same problem, and what is causing it.) Best regards g. -- Schroedinger's Cat had 4 1/2 lives. (Q: What was its half-life?!) ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)cirp.org> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
From: Thomas McCarthy <tom@ntechcorp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: One monitor/keyboard, two slabs Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 13:12:41 -0800 Organization: NTech Corporation Message-ID: <34886E49.3B87@ntechcorp.com> References: <667qlo$kt$1@news3.tufts.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Hassell wrote: > > I just got a second turbo slab, and I was wondering if a little switch was > a availale so that I could just use the one set of > monitor/keyboard/mouse/soundbox since they just the single connection to > the box. For now, I just switch the cable back and forth which isn't too > bad, but it'd be nice if something like that was available. Any > suggestions? My suggestion is you go buy an ethernet cable, network the two slabs, and then use NXHost to get apps from the headless slab to display on the monitor that's attached to the other slab. That's what I do, and it works well. Tom ---------- Thomas McCarthy tom@sumoweb.com
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: So.... how is it done? (Re: Interesting (to me at least) realization about OS and libraries) Date: 5 Dec 1997 22:16:42 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <669uga$puq$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <6643rk$66v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <667j2u$4no$1@gte2.gte.net> <66939q$eq1$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk Ok, I realize this is getting close to csn.programmer, but.... 1) is there a way to ``transform'' dynamic to static for things like 'fsck' and whatnot (ie critical system files) 2) if so, how? 3) if not, where do we send the recommendation to the Rhapsody folks? Thanks TjL
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NXHosting Question Date: 10 Dec 1997 06:34:32 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66ld5o$aj$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <66l01u$kif@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In <66l01u$kif@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net> mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > I read the FAQ on NXHosting and it indicates that you MUST be running the > same version of the Operating System. Is this correct? No (where did you find an NXHost faq?) > I would like to be able to NXHost from my 200 MHz Intel running 4.1 to my > various balck hardware running 3.3. I tried this, but ran into soem DPS > error, seemingly. I had no problems NXHosting *from* 3.3 *to* 4.1.... but I actually didn't try the other way around..... and now they aren't speaking to one another, so until I get the conflict resolved I can't say more. My guess is that higher--to--lower might work (backwards compat) but not lower to higher. One datapoint TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Still having "hanging" problems - 3.2 Date: 10 Dec 1997 06:42:30 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66ldkm$aj$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <66khhe$jm143@biko.cc.rochester.edu> <66ko4l$gi0$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <66l1dk$kig47@biko.cc.rochester.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gtf[@]cirp.org FYI/FWIW The source from ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind/src/ **together with** ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/misc/bind.8.1.1.d.README ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/misc/bind.8.1.1.d.tar.gz allows 8.1.1 to compile quite easily on 3.3.... I think I compiled sendmail earlier, so I can't comment on any change there. NOTE: what is on PEAK is just a portion of the distribution required to allow it to compile on 3.3... I don't know that it would work immediately on 3.2, and I did not write a good guide on how to do the rest of the setup. It's not for beginners and I wouldn't have done it except I had a sysadmin friend who talked me though it. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Still having "hanging" problems - 3.2 Date: 10 Dec 1997 18:32:41 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <66mn89$513$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <66khhe$jm143@biko.cc.rochester.edu> <66ko4l$gi0$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <66l1dk$kig47@biko.cc.rochester.edu> gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) wrote: > Thanks for your helpful suggestions. No problem. > I actually have installed "named" from the BIND 4.9.6 distribution, for > an unrelated reason. Well, to improve DNS performance, enable logging and/or dump the database (with the extended statistics option compiled), and take a look at the domains you're hitting most often. The cache them by becoming a secondary.... > But I avoided installing the new resolver libs, because there are certain > differences in the new header files that were causing various compiles > (notably sendmail 8) to fail. Maybe this just requires a bit more effort > than I was willing to expend at the time. I'm certain you can get this to work with minor effort. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Samba and NT4 service pack 3 ? Date: 10 Dec 1997 19:40:32 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <66mr7g$ah6$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> Well, I just (foolishly) installed NT service pack 3 onto a working NT machine which was quite happily mounting discs off a NeXT cube running Samba. I have chnaged nothing on the NeXT side. But now the NT machine will not browse any other machines - and cannot apparently mount any other discs as it gives an error along the lines of "this user is not allowed to connect from this machine". It also can't see any other workgroups in the "Network Neighbourhood" either. I don't understand this - I only changed the NT software, not the server software, so how come it's suddenly being extra strict. I'm assuming this is the service pack (I also installed IE4.0 which has also nobbed about with my networking it appears)... and more to the point how do I get things back to the way they used to be - or at least get it to mount the discs from Samba again ! -bat. [muttering darkly about M$ under his breath]
From: mhovan@BLaCKSMITH.com (Michael A. Hovan III) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Samba and NT4 service pack 3 ? Date: 10 Dec 97 15:18:24 Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <MHOVAN.97Dec10151824@kafka.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <66mr7g$ah6$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> In-reply-to: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk's message of 10 Dec 1997 19:40:32 GMT In article <66mr7g$ah6$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) writes: > Well, I just (foolishly) installed NT service pack 3 onto a working > NT machine which was quite happily mounting discs off a NeXT cube > running Samba. I have chnaged nothing on the NeXT side. But now the > NT machine will not browse any other machines - and cannot apparently > mount any other discs as it gives an error along the lines of "this user > is not allowed to connect from this machine". It also can't see any other > workgroups in the "Network Neighbourhood" either. Service pack 3 causes NT to do it's samba logins using encrypted passwords over the wire. Before that they used plaintext. > and more to the > point how do I get things back to the way they used to be - or at least > get it to mount the discs from Samba again ! There is a registry entry someplace to turn off the encrypted passwords. Additionally newer releases of Samba handle encrypted passwords. (I have not tested this yet, just read about it...) Mike Hovan
From: beckers@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Becki Kain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: multiple instances Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 10 Dec 1997 20:40:51 GMT Organization: University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Message-ID: <66muoj$8je$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> Keywords: 3.3 intel instance How do I set up multiple Instances (like config=Instance0, config=Instance1) for booting a 3.3 nextstep intel box? The issue is that the box is a laptop with a docking station and I have a scsi card and ether card in the docking station. I would like to be able to do a no muss, no fuss switch between using the laptop with and without the docking station, but right now, the laptop hangs at configuring drivers because it can't find the two cards. Has anyone done this before? Please email me (beckers@umich.edu) and post to the group. thanks
From: mbessey@apple.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Rhapsody - two things i'd need Date: 10 Dec 1997 23:54:39 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <66na3v$aju$1@news.apple.com> References: <7yvhwxv5uw.fsf@saarland.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-shoot-me> Th. Fettig writes > > To make Rhapsody my main development platform, i need two > things: an X server and a HFS-driver for all the HFS-partitions > on my HD. Do these exist yet? > > cu > Thomas Not in the Developer Release. There will (of course) be support for HFS filesystems in an upcoming consumer release of Rhapsody. Various third parties have X-window servers for OPENSTEP. I would imagine they are considering porting them to Rhapsody. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: "Andrea Ondak" <jondak@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Looking for book ideas and authors Date: 5 Dec 1997 21:42:33 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <669sg9$8s1@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net> I'm looking for ideas for computer book ideas -- especially topics not well covered by existing books -- and for potential authors with the skills and qualifications to write about them. If you're interested, please drop me a line to describe the book you'd like to write and your credentials as an author. -- Andrea Ondak ao@manning.com Assistant Publisher Voice 203.270.8059, 203.426.8457 Manning Publications Co. http://www.manning.com
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Rhapsody - two things i'd need Date: 11 Dec 1997 01:40:25 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66nga9$s6r$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <7yvhwxv5uw.fsf@saarland.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-shoot-me> <66na3v$aju$1@news.apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mbessey@apple.com,cubx@intuisys.com In <66na3v$aju$1@news.apple.com> Mark Bessey wrote: > Not in the Developer Release. There will (of course) be support for HFS > filesystems in an upcoming consumer release of Rhapsody. Various third > parties have X-window servers for OPENSTEP. I would imagine they are > considering porting them to Rhapsody. Cub'X people have apparently said that they will be doing a Rhapsody release. For more information on Cub'X, see http://www.intuisys.com/cindex.html although they do not say anything about Rhapsody on those pages. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: 3.1 to 4.2 upgrade problem on NeXTStation Message-ID: <EKrEIy.FLp@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <34827117.520E@novell.com> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 08:35:22 GMT In article <34827117.520E@novell.com> Raul da Silva <raul_da_silva@novell.com> writes: > I'm having a problem with a 3.1 to 4.2 upgrade. > > I installed a CD-ROM drive on my system. This went fine - the NeXTStep > 4.2 CD is recognized with no problem. I run the Upgrader.app and get > the "OPENSTEP for Mach Software Upgrade" dialog. It says that the > system disk contains Release 3.1 and that it will install 4.2 on it. So > far, so good. I click on "Plan Upgrade" (a process that is said to take > about 30 minutes) and it starts accessing the CD-ROM for a minute or two > then abruptly quits. > > No error message; no information whatsoever. The machine is not hung or > crashed. The upgrade just quits. > The expected hop might just be too big. I fear you'll have to do an install instead of an upgrade. It takes longer but guarantees a pristine condition. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: netinfo question Message-ID: <EKrFD1.Fo1@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <6642fr$ofk@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 08:53:25 GMT In article <6642fr$ofk@news.acns.nwu.edu> jkwatson@merle.acns.nwu.edu (John Watson) writes: > I'm getting a netinfo message on the console every few minutes or so, > and I was hoping someone could tell me what it means and how to get rid > of it. > > What I get is: > syslog: can't open NetInfo parent domain > > It doesn't seem like it's causing problems, but I'd like to get rid of > it. This computer is the only OpenStep computer in our network, and > there shouldn't be any parent domain to talk to. I poked around in > the NetInfo manager, but couldn't find where this parent domain would > have been defined. > That's typical for a client machine that hasn't been configured standalone before it has ben taken out of its network environment. A very common situation on used hardware trades. The info resides in NetInfo in the 'serves' property of the 'machines' subdirectories and /etc/hostconfig might also be affected. The only catchall recipe that can be given is to replace /etc/hostconfig and /etc/netinfo/* with the files found in /usr/templates/client/etc, reboot and run SimpleNetworkStarter.app and HostConfig.app to personalize again. But, unfortunately, this will destroy all customization done, so beware. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: boom@sonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? Date: 6 Dec 1997 17:26:24 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <66c1s0$i7s$1@news2.digex.net> References: <66au44$ahk$1@brie.direct.ca> <65lnpg$2te$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> <669sqj$l0e$1@news2.digex.net> In Re: PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? comp.sys.next.sysadmin ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca writes, > boom@sonyx.com wrote: >>In PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? comp.sys.next.sysadmin "Andrew K" > <akwong@mcs.com> writes, >> >>> Hi ALL, >>> >>> Anyone know if there are porxy server for NS or OS? >>> >>> I have ppp dialup setup on a OpenStep Box and I would like to allow other >>> machines connected on the same network to share the connection. >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Andy >>> >> >>There is a very simple way of doing that for HTTP, without having to go > through all sorts of gateway config. stuff: get Apache, compile it having set > up the makefile to include the proxy module in your build, build it, and then > run it on the machine that has the PPP cnx. then, on other hosts on your > local subnet, just set the proxy server to > http://address.of.ppp.apache.machine and voila! you have instant web access. >> >>the whole thing should take about 15 mins or so after you have downloaded > Apache :) > > You could also check out Squid at http://squid.nlanr.net/ > > It is claimed to be than using a Web server that does the same task. You be > the judge. > > Darren > www.bcog.org/~dreely yep, squid looks good! its the same thing as using the apache server, though. am i right, the only real difference is the speed? they can both route FTP, HTTP, gopher. squid has better logging and debugging, though. erik
From: info@andante.mn.org Subject: Pine and NeXTMail on the same Machine Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 08:41:05 -0600 Message-ID: <881370586.19853@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: Deja News Posting Service Is there a way to install Pine as the mail reader for a user account on a NeXTStep 3.3 cube while all other users use the standard NeXT mailer. This particular user will never log in to the window system and only retrieve mail via rlogin (or su in Terminal.app on the same machine). I want all other users to use the standard NeXTMailer as they do now. All comments welcome John N Alegre Andante Systems -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Samba and NT4 service pack 3 ? Date: 11 Dec 1997 08:26:08 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. Message-ID: <66o830$k1u$1@ralph.vnet.net> References: <66mr7g$ah6$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> I don't have the exact reference off the top of my head, but the Samba documentation addresses what to do when you install service pack 3. (It has to do with password encryption, and I think it has to be enabled.) Roland
From: no@spam.all (no spam please) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Objective-c TUTORIAL? ("thank you") ("very much") Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 03:25:28 GMT Message-ID: <34985c39.177483881@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: IBM.NET Hello, I would like to learn the objective-c language and have downloaded Obc272b.zip (I only have Windows 95). I click on cc1obj.exe and up comes a blank dos screen. I also noticed it has all these files that end in things like .h .a .s etc. (which I assume to be source code files etc.?) Does anyone know of any kind of a hand-holding faq or tutorial or exercise that can get me started on this? Thanks in advance!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: netinfo question Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EKzKKE.G4o@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:26:38 GMT References: <6642fr$ofk@news.acns.nwu.edu> <EKrFD1.Fo1@nidat.sub.org> <66kc21$l4@news.acns.nwu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <66kc21$l4@news.acns.nwu.edu>, John Watson <jkwatson@merle.acns.nwu.edu> wrote: >Hmm. The machien doesn't even have a serves property under machines, >and /etc/hostconfig looked just fine. You might also check out the "master" property of /. On my machine it's set to "localhost/local". -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Still having "hanging" problems - 3.2 Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EKzn1K.LuE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:20:08 GMT References: <66khhe$jm143@biko.cc.rochester.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <66khhe$jm143@biko.cc.rochester.edu>, Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf[@]cirp.org> wrote: > >By enabling logging in "lookupd", I determined that the blocking only >occurs on reverse DNS lookups. Since lookupd is single-threaded in 3.2, >this hangs everything else that might be waiting on lookupd. > >Please help. Is there something in my resolver configuration that could be >causing this problem? It is extremely frustrating. > The resolver configuration is pretty simple, so I doubt that's it. Does your nameserver do reverse lookups properly? Try nslookup -type=PTR some.ip.address and see if it works. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: multiple instances Date: 11 Dec 1997 11:42:47 GMT Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany Message-ID: <66ojjn$gaa1@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <66muoj$8je$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> Becki Kain (beckers@quip.eecs.umich.edu) wrote: : How do I set up multiple Instances (like config=Instance0, config=Instance1) : for booting a 3.3 nextstep intel box? That's not how it works - or is thought to work. If you have e.g. two serial ports, then the data beloging to the first port is Instance0, the data for the second port is Instance1 and so forth. I.e. the number of 'instances' for a (single) driver determines the InstanceN 'N'-value. : The issue is that the box is a laptop : with a docking station and I have a scsi card and ether card in the docking : station. I would like to be able to do a no muss, no fuss switch between : using the laptop with and without the docking station, but right now, the : laptop hangs at configuring drivers because it can't find the two cards. There is no or better I don't know of a concept for different simultaneous configurations as you describe them and as they are known by e.g. W95 at the moment. You could switch configurations by shellscripts, moving, renaming or copying files, but I've not a good feeling with this kind of handling things. : : Has anyone done this before? No, me not. : Please email me (beckers@umich.edu) and post : to the group. thanks Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: Frederic LAURENT <fl4@lucent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Pb compatibility between 2 NeXT Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:29:54 +0200 Organization: Softeam Message-ID: <348FB292.41448E8C@lucent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I've got 2 NeXT Stations. The first is a monochrome station, and the second is a color station. The monochrome station runs normally. The problem is that the color station hard disk is breakdown. So I want to put the monochrone station hard disk into the color one, but then the color station doesn't boot. I execute bsd but it doesn't start. What can i do to solve my problem ? ---- Frederic LAURENT mailto:fl4@lucent.com
From: jmeacham@fellspt.charm.net (James Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Changing Apps for filetypes? Date: 11 Dec 1997 10:20:07 -0500 Organization: Charm Net, Inc. Message-ID: <jmeacham.881853195@news.vni.net> Hi all, I can't for the life of me figure out how to do the following thing: Add an app to handle a filetype. I want to add Carl Edman's NextEmacs to the list of programs that open perl files, with the ".pl" extension. Presently, only Edit and Terminal come up in the Tools inspector. Is there a way to add Emacs to that list? I figured something needed to be edited in the .NeXT directory, but I have no idea what. ANy info would be greatly appreciated. Peace, James -- -- jmeacham@charm.net James Meacham
From: keenan@apple.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: How to get more than 1 NeXT partions on 1 EIDE drive? Date: 5 Dec 1997 19:50:15 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <669ltn$kc8$1@news.apple.com> References: <669hc8$dj9@news.service.uci.edu> In article <669hc8$dj9@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@r2d2.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: > I have a Quantum 3.8GB EIDE drive on my NeXT Intel running OS 4.1. > Currently, I have > > Partition 1: NT, 1GB > Partition 2: NeXT OS, 1GB > > I'd like to have the rest as one NeXT partition for user home > directories, or probably make it to be 2 NeXT partitions, one for > /usr/local and oneas /home. > > fdisk does not seem to allow me to get a 2nd NeXT partions, anyway > around? With larger than 2GB drives ubiquitous these days and Next not > being ableto have more than 2GB partitions(as far as I remember people > say on the net), there must be a way of getting more than 1 next > partitions on one IDE drive(I know you can do it with SCSI with some > editing of disktab, but I do not know how to do it with IDE). IDE and SCSI are the same, as far as this goes. You can only have one fdisk partition for NS, but it can have multiple UNIX partitions within it. See the article at http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1951.htmld/1951.html. joe -- ------------------------------------- Joe Keenan Manager, Enterprise Technical Support Apple Computer, Inc. +1-703-264-5364, +1-703-264-5158 (Fax)
From: boom@sonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? Date: 5 Dec 1997 21:48:03 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <669sqj$l0e$1@news2.digex.net> References: <65lnpg$2te$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> In PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? comp.sys.next.sysadmin "Andrew K" <akwong@mcs.com> writes, > Hi ALL, > > Anyone know if there are porxy server for NS or OS? > > I have ppp dialup setup on a OpenStep Box and I would like to allow other > machines connected on the same network to share the connection. > > Thanks in advance, > Andy > There is a very simple way of doing that for HTTP, without having to go through all sorts of gateway config. stuff: get Apache, compile it having set up the makefile to include the proxy module in your build, build it, and then run it on the machine that has the PPP cnx. then, on other hosts on your local subnet, just set the proxy server to http://address.of.ppp.apache.machine and voila! you have instant web access. the whole thing should take about 15 mins or so after you have downloaded Apache :) Hope that helps a bit... cheers erik scheirer sonYx, Inc.
From: jkwatson@merle.acns.nwu.edu (John Watson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: netinfo question Date: 11 Dec 1997 17:34:48 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL Message-ID: <66p87o$8cj@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <6642fr$ofk@news.acns.nwu.edu> <EKrFD1.Fo1@nidat.sub.org> <66kc21$l4@news.acns.nwu.edu> <EKzKKE.G4o@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: > In article <66kc21$l4@news.acns.nwu.edu>, > John Watson <jkwatson@merle.acns.nwu.edu> wrote: > >Hmm. The machien doesn't even have a serves property under machines, > >and /etc/hostconfig looked just fine. > You might also check out the "master" property of /. On my machine it's set > to "localhost/local". I finally got the error to go away by changing the NETMASTER property in /etc/hostconfig to -NO-, which is not what I thought it should be, since it's the only OpenStep machine on the network. Ah well, the vagaries of netinfo. Thanks all for the help. JOhn
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Samba and NT4 service pack 3 ? Date: 11 Dec 1997 18:37:41 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <66pbtl$fju$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <66mr7g$ah6$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> <MHOVAN.97Dec10151824@kafka.BLaCKSMITH.com> Michael A. Hovan III (mhovan@BLaCKSMITH.com) wrote: : : Additionally newer releases of Samba handle encrypted passwords. : (I have not tested this yet, just read about it...) "Newer" means for at least last three years, or maybe longer. As long as I was using Samba this support was there. See ENCRYPTION.txt in docs. You need encryption library and turn it on your makefile. The catch is that Samba cannot be distributed with an encryption on due to infamous ITAR regulations. If you are in North America you have to grab sources for an encryption library from Australia (or Europe). This is legal. Once you did that exporting them back, even to the same place where you got these in the first place, or Samba compiled with this libary, would be illegal. Don't ask me how Microsoft is doing that. --mj
From: "Andrea Ondak" <jondak@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Looking for book ideas and authors Date: 5 Dec 1997 21:42:31 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <669sg7$8s1@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net> I'm looking for ideas for computer book ideas -- especially topics not well covered by existing books -- and for potential authors with the skills and qualifications to write about them. If you're interested, please drop me a line to describe the book you'd like to write and your credentials as an author. -- Andrea Ondak ao@manning.com Assistant Publisher Voice 203.270.8059, 203.426.8457 Manning Publications Co. http://www.manning.com
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Changing Apps for filetypes? Date: 11 Dec 1997 19:41:33 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <66pfld$e0k@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> References: <jmeacham.881853195@news.vni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jmeacham@fellspt.charm.net In <jmeacham.881853195@news.vni.net> James Meacham wrote: > Hi all, > > I can't for the life of me figure out how to do the following thing: > > Add an app to handle a filetype. I want to add Carl Edman's NextEmacs to the list of programs that open perl files, with the ".pl" extension. Presently, only Edit and Terminal come up in the Tools inspector. Is there a way to add Emacs to that list? > > I figured something needed to be edited in the .NeXT directory, but I have no idea what. ANy info would be greatly appreciated. Peace, > > James > I don't know that application, but make sure it handles '.pl' files by clicking on the application and then pressing command-2. If it lists files with the .pl extension, then make sure that app is in your application search path. ~/Apps or /LocalApps, for example. If you want it elsewhere, you'll need to edit the path in ~/.cshrc. If you move it, you may need to logout and log back in for the changes to take effect... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: mbessey@apple.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: multiple instances Date: 11 Dec 1997 21:11:06 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <66pkta$13l4$1@news.apple.com> References: <66muoj$8je$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> Becki Kain writes > How do I set up multiple Instances (like config=Instance0, > config=Instance1) for booting a 3.3 nextstep intel box? The issue is > that the box is a laptop with a docking station and I have a scsi card > and ether card in the docking station. I would like to be able to do a > no muss, no fuss switch between using the laptop with and without the > docking station, but right now, the laptop hangs at configuring drivers > because it can't find the two cards. This is a side issue, but the drivers shouldn't hang if the boards aren't there (they just shouldn't load). What drivers are you using? > Has anyone done this before? Please email me (beckers@umich.edu) and > post to the group. thanks Unfortunately, you currently have to do this from the command line. There is a directory /NextLibrary/Devices/System.config/ that contains two files called Instance0.table and Default.table. Normally, the booter reads the configuration out of the Instance0.table. You can type 'config=Default' at the boot: prompt to select the configuration in Default.table (which is whatever you used to install, usually). In addition, each driver that you have installed (these are the other config directories in /NextLibrary/Devices) can have a number of .table files, one for each system configuration you use that driver in (Default.table and Instance0.table, for example). It should be possible to create a file /NextLibrary/Devices/System.config/docked.table and a set of docked.table files in each of the appropriate drivers, and you'd be all set. I believe there was (is?) more information in NeXTanswers about this (www.next.com). -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Still having "hanging" problems - 3.2 Date: 11 Dec 1997 21:40:42 GMT Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/CIRP/ Message-ID: <66pmkq$5gh4@biko.cc.rochester.edu> References: <66khhe$jm143@biko.cc.rochester.edu> <EKzn1K.LuE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Originator: gtf@theorem In article <EKzn1K.LuE@novice.uwaterloo.ca>, David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: >In article <66khhe$jm143@biko.cc.rochester.edu>, >Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf[@]cirp.org> wrote: >> >>By enabling logging in "lookupd", I determined that the blocking only >>occurs on reverse DNS lookups. Since lookupd is single-threaded in 3.2, >>this hangs everything else that might be waiting on lookupd. >> >>Please help. Is there something in my resolver configuration that could be >>causing this problem? It is extremely frustrating. > The resolver configuration is pretty simple, so I doubt that's it. Does your >nameserver do reverse lookups properly? Try >nslookup -type=PTR some.ip.address >and see if it works. Yes, that works (most of the time). The hanging is an intermittent problem. I can find no explanation. It started before my machine was even connected to Ethernet. g. -- Schroedinger's Cat had 4 1/2 lives. (Q: What was its half-life?!) ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)cirp.org> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Any tips on this kind of NEXTSTEP 3.3 panic? Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 21:59:49 GMT Organization: R&A Sender: news@RnA.NL Message-ID: <EL1p3p.DH@RnA.NL> NEXTSTEP 3.3/black hardware: zone "pv_list" rempty panic: (Cpu0) zalloc I have been plagued by panics lately, which are triggered by software I am developing. Possible culprits: syslog, perl 5.00404, sockets. If you have any tip that can point me to what is the probable cause, please enlighten me. (E.g. what is pv_list?) Thanks, -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. Dass man fuer die Philosophie ein Interesse zeigt, bezeugt noch keine Bereitschaft zum Denken -- Martin Heidegger
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Changing Apps for filetypes? Date: 11 Dec 1997 22:53:14 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <66pqsq$6h6$1@news.digifix.com> References: <jmeacham.881853195@news.vni.net> <66pfld$e0k@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> <jmeacham.881879503@news.vni.net> In-Reply-To: <jmeacham.881879503@news.vni.net> On 12/11/97, James Meacham wrote: > >That's just the problem I've been having. Although Emacs handles >.pl files fine, it doesn't list it as a file type it can handle. >I guess what I want to know is if there is a way to add a file >extension to the list of those it can hande. Thanks, > >James Yes, but its only easy under OpenStep. Under OpenStep there is a file in your applications wrapper called info-nextstep.plist, which contains the filetypes list. It is no longer buried in the Mach-O sections of the binary. Edit the info-nextstep.plist carefully, adding your filetype, and then Update File Viewers. Hopefully Apple will provide a mechanism for programatically adding filetypes to an application without messing with the wrapper contents under Rhasody. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: jmeacham@fellspt.charm.net (James Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Changing Apps for filetypes? Date: 11 Dec 1997 17:34:26 -0500 Organization: Charm Net, Inc. Message-ID: <jmeacham.881879503@news.vni.net> References: <jmeacham.881853195@news.vni.net> <66pfld$e0k@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) writes: >In <jmeacham.881853195@news.vni.net> James Meacham wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I can't for the life of me figure out how to do the following thing: >> >> Add an app to handle a filetype. I want to add Carl Edman's NextEmacs to >the list of programs that open perl files, with the ".pl" extension. >Presently, only Edit and Terminal come up in the Tools inspector. Is there a >way to add Emacs to that list? >> >> I figured something needed to be edited in the .NeXT directory, but I have >no idea what. ANy info would be greatly appreciated. Peace, >> >> James >> >I don't know that application, but make sure it handles '.pl' files by >clicking on the application and then pressing command-2. If it lists files >with the .pl extension That's just the problem I've been having. Although Emacs handles .pl files fine, it doesn't list it as a file type it can handle. I guess what I want to know is if there is a way to add a file extension to the list of those it can hande. Thanks, James -- -- jmeacham@charm.net James Meacham
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Can Netinfo be reset to fix my network? Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 15:03:37 -0800 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971211145740.3536A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Reply-To: " I am running NS3.3 Intel. This morning I was using a floppy disk and when I tried to eject it, the disk ground continually (/usr/adm/messages was fully of floppy disk errors). I eventually rebooted, but the network now refuses to come up. My machine says the floppy disk is bad (I can live with that though). The only bad boot message I get is autonfsmount: can't get my address I am the only user on this machine and don't really use Netinfo at all. However, when I try to start up NetinfoManager, the window comes up, but the little disk just whirls forever. Is it possible that I need to 'reset' the netinfo database somehow to fix this network problem? Any ideas would be appreciated. Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon,comp.sys.psio From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.66ps0v$7ef$66@duke.telepac.pt> Control: cancel <66ps0v$7ef$66@duke.telepac.pt> Subject: cmsg cancel <66ps0v$7ef$66@duke.telepac.pt> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 00:03:54 GMT Sender: "Paulo Lopes" <paulo_lopes_78@hotmail.com> ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark.
From: Kurt Ramsden <ramsden@mscd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Trouble with desktop after installing second hard drive Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 15:05:36 -0700 Organization: InfoTech Message-ID: <34887AB0.E94BD6B3@mscd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings All, I recently upgraded a slab by installing an external hard drive on a NeXTstaion running NeXTstep 3.1. After finding the bug in 3.1 (for big drives), installation was pretty straight forward. After initializing the disk I mounted the /me directory in fstab to this whole drive. I then moved all files from the /me directory (on the first hard drive) to the second. All applications and links work fine and it is showing the disk label on the second drive as 'me'. The problem is when the computer is rebooted and logged into as 'me', the desktop is restored to a default state. None of the icons that I put to the left are present . If I log off (with out rebooting) and log right back into 'me', the desktop is made correctly. Is there something I should have done, not done, when moving the 'me' directory? This is not a serious problem but annoying none the less. Thanks in advance, Kurt ramsden@mscd.edu
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NS3.3 login problem when renumbering IP addresses. Date: 11 Dec 1997 23:12:36 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Dec11080247@slave.doubleu.com> References: <SCOTT.97Dec6160552@slave.doubleu.com> In-reply-to: scott@doubleu.com's message of 6 Dec 97 16:05:52 In article <SCOTT.97Dec6160552@slave.doubleu.com>, scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) writes: <snip> my internal network is allocated from teh 192.42.172.* network. <snip> I recently decided to renumber it to a "real" unroutable network, 192.168.x.x. After the renumbering, I was able to login to my NeXTstation running NS3.2 fine, into a SparcStation running OS4.2 fine, and into an Intel box running OS4.2. I could boot the Intel box to NS3.3, and login over the net, but whenever I attempted to login to the console, any user account, Workspace would start starting up and quickly pop up a panel saying "Try to save changes to files in other applications before logging out.", and my CPU load would go to 100% system time. I could login remotely and kill off the offending Workspace.app process, but I couldn't login from the console. I now _think_ that this is related to my oddball networking scheme. I have a Linux server acting as a bridge between 100Mbit and 10Mbit ethernet segments, and I _think_ that there was a bad entry creeping into the Intel box's arp cache. Anyhow, I managed to get the same problem last night using the addresses that was otherwise working, and I "fixed" it by using "arp -s"... Thanks, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can Netinfo be reset to fix my network? Date: 12 Dec 1997 01:40:15 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66q4lv$auq$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971211145740.3536A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu In <Pine.NXT.3.96.971211145740.3536A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: > I am running NS3.3 Intel. This morning I was using a floppy disk and when > I tried to eject it, the disk ground continually (/usr/adm/messages was > fully of floppy disk errors). I eventually rebooted, but the network now > refuses to come up. My machine says the floppy disk is bad (I can live > with that though). The only bad boot message I get is > > autonfsmount: can't get my address What I would do (and I might be wrong) Goto the NetInfo /machines entry... duplicate the 'localhost' entry, open it up and change the settings to match your host's name/ip and whatnot. I don't know if that is the right answer, but it works for me. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: boom@sonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? Date: 8 Dec 1997 18:20:28 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <66hdpc$l5i$1@news2.digex.net> References: <66d8sm$ld8$1@brie.direct.ca> <66au44$ahk$1@brie.direct.ca> <65lnpg$2te$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> <669sqj$l0e$1@news2.digex.net> <66c1s0$i7s$1@news2.digex.net> In Re: PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? comp.sys.next.sysadmin ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca writes, > boom@sonyx.com wrote: >>In Re: PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? comp.sys.next.sysadmin > ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca writes, >> >>> boom@sonyx.com wrote: >>>>In PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? comp.sys.next.sysadmin "Andrew K" >>> <akwong@mcs.com> writes, >>>> >>>>> Hi ALL, >>>>> >>>>> Anyone know if there are porxy server for NS or OS? > [snipped] >>> >>> You could also check out Squid at http://squid.nlanr.net/ >>> >>> It is claimed to be than using a Web server that does the same task. You > be >>> the judge. > > I meant to say: > It is claimed to be faster than using a Web server that does the same task. > >>> >>> Darren >>> www.bcog.org/~dreely >> >>yep, squid looks good! its the same thing as using the apache server, > though. am i right, the only real difference is the speed? they can both > route FTP, HTTP, gopher. squid has better logging and debugging, though. > > The rerouting only seems to work for web browsers. What about getting it to > work for the regular command line ftp or GatorFTP? I think the purpose of a > proxy server is for use with the HTTP protocol only. Am I missing something? > > Darren > www.bcog.org/~dreely nono, not missing anything -- i was just speaking in terms of a more flexible solution, which is of course to provide a gateway with IP masquesading (or whatever its called this week :) -- sorry if i was mixing the subjects! but you are right for the proxy server thingy. we are in the throes of getting a gateway machine going, so that all packets get routed. funny thing is, you can't use NeXT/OpenStep for that at all, so we went out and got freeBSD and are putting it on a 486. very disappointing not to be able to use the beauty of NS/OS for that... unless, that is, you know of something i don't -- i which case i would be extremely grateful to find out that we could use NS/OS for a gateway! cheers erik
From: Daniel Corkery <dcorkery@surf1.its.bond.edu.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Apple Supports Only OpenStep Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:33:53 +1000 Organization: Bond University Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.971209183244.18067B-100000@surf1.its.bond.edu.au> References: <34745a13.1319524@news.gatech.edu> <659tgc$lm2$1@usenet88.supernews.com> <Pine.SOL.3.96.971125045036.20426F-100000@hei.unige.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: MARMIER Raphael <marmier4@hei.unige.ch> cc: Frank Williams <fwilliam@eaglenet.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.96.971125045036.20426F-100000@hei.unige.ch> Cache-Post-Path: minerva.its.bond.edu.au!unknown@surf1.its.bond.edu.au The reason why microsoft still sells win 3.1 is that there is still a demand. Apparently 95 is too memory and processor hungry.All I could think was: well, whats new? Cheers, Dan Unix _is_ user friendly. It's just a little selective about who its friends are... On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, MARMIER Raphael wrote: > > No body hates Microsoft more than me (well may a few do) but they are > > still supporting windows 3.1 for godsake. I guess this explains why who > > bailed who out. > > > I'm very frustrated too, but I see one problem: money. > I prefer having Apple spending all its money in Rhapsody developpment > (which I hope, will not be a real continuation of Nextstep philosophy), > rather than wasting in several projects and fulfilling none of them... > > Microshit, thanks to its monopoly and pirate policy, has pleny of money to > waste everywhere... > > Anyway, judging from the strong community that lives in this newsgroup, > Nextstep is not ready to die. A phenomenon that microsoft will never > enjoy... > > Raph > > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: multiple instances Message-ID: <EL2o95.F63@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <66pkta$13l4$1@news.apple.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:39:03 GMT Hi Mark > > This is a side issue, but the drivers shouldn't hang if the boards aren't > there (they just shouldn't load). What drivers are you using? > ALso the new 3com ISA driver? > > Unfortunately, you currently have to do this from the command line. > Yes, this is a missing thing. Will be better in Rhapsody? ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can Netinfo be reset to fix my network? Date: 12 Dec 1997 15:37:04 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <66rln0$qv8$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971211145740.3536A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971211145740.3536A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> On 12/11/97, "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: > Is it possible that I need to >'reset' the netinfo database somehow to fix this network problem? You can always start over with Netinfo by copying (in a single-user boot) /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo to /etc. This over-writes your Netinfo db with the distribution one, so you start again with a fresh machine. Note that this'll lose you *all* local customizations, including your pw file etc. If you're forced to this extreme, you may want to first use nidump to save some parts of your old db to files, and restore them to the repaired db later with niload. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. (403) 492-2834 gfin@psych.ualberta.ca http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: Jaime Guerrero <jaime.guerrero@sun.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: drivers to print on a NeXTPrinter from Windows NT? Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:55:30 -0800 Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <348F01C2.C6C8947D@sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those on mixed networks, what printer driver do you select in Windows to be able to properly print onto your NeXTPrinter hosted by an old NeXT slab? (using Microsoft TCP/IP printing. the communication works [the test page prints] but any actual output causes postscript errors on the NeXT) Is there a nonstandard driver needed (since NeXT's postscript is a little old)? I have two perfectly good NeXTprinters with operable slabs attached, I don't want to have to buy yet another printer! Please post (for other's benefit) and email any response to: jaime@lighthouse.eng.sun.com as I rarely read this group. Thanks!
From: pat@altair.krl.caltech.edu (Pat Huber) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: What to do about Improv? Date: 12 Dec 1997 16:55:19 GMT Organization: Kellogg Radiation Lab, Caltech Message-ID: <66rq9n$ks7@gap.cco.caltech.edu> When the original Nextstations came out, we bought them for internal administrative use. At the time they came with Lotus Improv, which our secretaries deemed "worth the price of the computer". I can't keep these pizza boxes going forever, and want to know how other admins have dealt with making the transition from Improv. I am prepared to go to OpenStep, Linux or Window$ 95 if necessary. -pat
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NS3.3 login problem when renumbering IP addresses. Date: 8 Dec 1997 12:30:01 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <66gp89$j4q$2@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <SCOTT.97Dec6160552@slave.doubleu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: scott@doubleu.com In <SCOTT.97Dec6160552@slave.doubleu.com> Scott Hess wrote: > Since this isn't "cool", I recently decided to renumber it to a "real" > unroutable network, 192.168.x.x. I also elected to take the > oppourtunity to sanitize the host numbering scheme (reserving .1 for > the default gateway, all clients in a range that could be subnetted, > etc). This does sound to me rather like you've simply got a stray instance of a 192.42.172 IP number floating about somewhere. One particularly annoying place to run into this is in the 'trusted_hosts' property at the root of any netinfo domain. You should be able to find all instances by running this command for each of the netinfo domains on your network: nigrep '192.42.172' -t hostname/tag / (but you knew that anyhow...) If it is a `trusted_hosts' problem, then you can find that the clones can get out of sync with the master and won't update themselves properly. It's best to put both the old and the new network numbers into `trusted_hosts' until everything is working correctly. Other places to look: /etc/hostconfig, /etc/bootptab, /etc/bootparams, /etc/iftab --- bootptab is a weird one, in that although BOOTP data is normally served out of netinfo, the system will still refer to the flat file as well. Cheers, Matthew [Posted and mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: drivers to print on a NeXTPrinter from Windows NT? Date: 12 Dec 1997 18:22:02 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <66rvca$513$14@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <348F01C2.C6C8947D@sun.com> Jaime Guerrero <jaime.guerrero@sun.com> wrote: > For those on mixed networks, what printer driver do you select in > Windows to be able to properly print onto your NeXTPrinter hosted by an > old NeXT slab? Adobe's PPD site has a printer description specificly for the NeXT Laser Printer. Reportedly, you could also claim the printer is an Apple LaserWriter, and that should work pretty well. > (using Microsoft TCP/IP printing. the communication works [the test > page prints] but any actual output causes postscript errors on the NeXT) Most likely, the printer is correct: a lot of so-called PostScript generated from Microsoft-based software isn't valid. DPS is simply more strict about enforcing the syntax for PostScript and the Document Structuring Conventions.... > Is there a nonstandard driver needed (since NeXT's postscript is a > little old)? That's almost certainly not the problem. The version of Display PostScript used under a modern version of NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP is more current than that found in the majority of printers. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Louis_Eagle@mendota.com Subject: netinfo problem 3.3 master -> 4.2 client Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:01:57 -0600 Message-ID: <881952628.1227489285@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: Deja News Posting Service Hello, I've added a 4.2 (intel) system to an existing network served by a 3.3 (m68k) netinfo master. Set up as a client, when the 4.2 system boots and goes out to find the master, I get a message similar to the following on the 4.2 system: NetInfo connection timeout: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection reset by peer Nothing interesting is logged on the master system. Other network stuff works fine, netinfo, or somethinq unique to it seem to be the culprit. I'm running the system netinfo standalone for the moment but when I try to use the faxReader I get the same sort of thing. So, it would appear I have to fix it. Is there a problem with serving a 4.2 system with a 3.3 server? I've tried nextanswers and the peanuts FAQ. Any suggestions?? Anyone have a cheap 4.2(m68k) User for sale??? Thanks, Louis -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: sg18@acpub.duke.edu (Subir Grewal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Linux & NeXT Network Date: 13 Dec 1997 00:42:39 GMT Organization: Trill Host Selection Committee Message-ID: <66sllv$kja$1@news.duke.edu> References: <65nsmu$2ev$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> <65qfks$7vr$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> I run my NeXT and a Digital Unix box in great harmony together. There are a number of basic things I had to do to make sure things run as I wanted them to. 1. First I picked a block of IP#s to use, I chose 127.1.1.x because it seemed convenient. You can always use 10.x.x.x (the old Arpanet network 10, because it is unassigned and is supposed to stay that way. some machines barf up at using 127.x.x.x for anything but the loopback interface). Since I have my own registered domain, I picked names under it for my machines (I don't really care whether I can be reached by the outside world). 2. I set up routed on both machines to send all traffic for the 127.1.1.x network over the ethernet interface (important since when I connect to my ISPs, I change the default route to the machine at the other end of the PPP link). 3. I got a copy of BIND for NeXTStep (I already have BIND on the DU box, but I don't keep it on all the time since I use my NeXT more) and configured it to act as a nameserver, which means I set up my database files, and added the nameserver in /etc/rc. My DU box has the NeXT's IP# in its /etc/resolv.conf, my NeXT (which I use to connect to my ISP) has itself (the loopback number), and a list of other nameservers from my various ISPs. You will probably have to fiddle with /etc/resolv.conf as well to get named working. 4. At this point, I had routing between the machines, and nameservice working. The rest was mostly a matter of configuring individual apps. For instance, I run Netscape on my DU box, and it uses a squid cache on my NeXT to retreive data from the web, my mail apps on the DU box use the NeXT as their SMTP server (it's on the 'Net more often, and it autoretreives my mail at regular intervals through the day using fetchmail, procmail processes it, and it tries to clear the queue as well). All in all, I have a setup I'm pretty happy with. I don't find the lack of a modem for my DU box a big disadvantage. I have NFS running at home, so I use each machine's disk to backup my files on the other periodically, and I share certain other files. Most things I want to do in colour (which are very few, I use my DU box for, and for plain web pages it works fine with my NeXT's cacheing proxy). I don't know how helpful this is, but hopefully some basic concepts are clear (keeping the internal TCP/IP network and the wider Internet out of each other's way, routing packets over the right interfaces, how to use and abuse a single phone line for two machines). I admit I use the NeXT Admin tools for very few things, most work I do on the command line, but I haven't felt the need to do otherwise. If you need specific instructions, just let me know I'd be glad to help out. Be forewarned though, that I haven't used Linux much, and there are some Linux quirks (oh where, oh where are you OSF). -- hostmaster@trill-home.com + Lynx 2.7.1 + NeXT/PGP mail + www.crl.com/~subir/ It is better to never have tried anything than to have tried something and failed. - motto of jerks, weenies and losers everywhere
From: MARMIER Raphael <marmier4@hei.unige.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: multiple instances Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 03:38:43 +0100 Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.971213033328.13058E-100000@hei.unige.ch> References: <66muoj$8je$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Becki Kain <beckers@quip.eecs.umich.edu> In-Reply-To: <66muoj$8je$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> Hi IMO making an Instance1.table in System.config for your alternate driver should be enough. Just duplicate Instance0.table, remove the driver you don't need and add the driver you need at the same place. The tables in the drivers are for multuple instances of the same device. They can be left alone, as you're switching between different devices, and not between different config of the same device. hope this help Raph ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Raphael Marmier --> marmier4@hei.unige.ch --> http://heiwww.unige.ch/~marmier4 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Why NetInfoManager.app hangs (and autonfsmount) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:40:18 -0800 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971212183048.708A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Reply-To: " It's a long story, but the short of it is: I'm running NS3.3 Intel, one day my floppy drive hangs, I do a hard reboot, my network is now dead. I don't know what happened, but these are the symptoms: 1. The bootup hangs just after 'Loading file service daemons' which I think is when it is running autonfsmount. Immediately afterward I get the 'autonfsmount: Can't get my address' error. The network used to work. 2. NetInfoManger.app won't open (spinning disk for several minutes, it eventually comes up but every folder I hit means I get the spinning disk for several more minutes). This makes me wonder if there's more than just a bad network card or network settings. What I've done: 1. I've deleted /etc/netinfo/local.nidb and loaded a new one from /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo (Thanks Gary). 2. I've used ditto to reload the base operating system (Thanks Marc) # ditto -arch i386 -bom /usr/lib/NextStep/BaseSystem.bom -outBom /BaseSystem.bom /NS3.3 / But, everything still appears to be the same. Short of reloading the operating system from scratch I'm running out of ideas. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Rob
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: fstab: is this the proper setup? Date: 13 Dec 1997 04:56:12 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66t4hc$cjb$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I confess that although I have read the man page I am still not sure about the numbers at the end. Is this the right thing to use for /etc/fstab ? /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd1a /Disk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 /dev/sd2a /Disk2 4.3 rw,noquota 0 3 Thanks TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: How to get more than 1 NeXT partions on 1 EIDE drive? Date: 6 Dec 1997 13:12:39 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Dec5221717@slave.doubleu.com> References: <669hc8$dj9@news.service.uci.edu> In-reply-to: fliu@r2d2.eng.uci.edu's message of 5 Dec 1997 18:32:40 GMT In article <669hc8$dj9@news.service.uci.edu>, fliu@r2d2.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: I have a Quantum 3.8GB EIDE drive on my NeXT Intel running OS 4.1. Currently, I have Partition 1: NT, 1GB Partition 2: NeXT OS, 1GB I'd like to have the rest as one NeXT partition for user home directories, or probably make it to be 2 NeXT partitions, one for /usr/local and one as /home. fdisk does not seem to allow me to get a 2nd NeXT partions, anyway around? Though Shalt Not Use Multiple Fdisk Partitions For NeXTSTEP Filesystems. Don't ask me, I don't make the rules. You _can_ have multiple NeXTSTEP partitions, though. You take a single NeXTSTEP FDISK partition, and you partition it using disk -i -p #####, or a custom disktab entry, or BuildDisk. Of course, that doesn't really help, because all of that assumes that you are able to boot NeXTSTEP from some drive other than the one you want to repartition, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: <gbh@middlemarch.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Rhapsody boot problem Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 20:00:50 -0500 Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971213200010.1908B-100000@clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Rhapsody/Intel now sleeps when I boot my machine. I installed an ethernet card, booted, used Configure.app to load the driver, then rebooted. It gets most of the way through (I had to hit ctl-c a couple of times to continue), then reaches this point; Starting timed execution services Dec 13 14:26:50 myhost WindowServer[319]: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping It then hangs. I tried using ctl-c but it did not continue. What needs to be done to boot correctly? --Greg
From: nospam@ultranet.com (Oogie Boogie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Internet & Rhapsody Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 21:07:59 -0500 Organization: MediaOne -=- Northeast Region Message-ID: <nospam-0612972107590001@rpreston.ne.mediaone.net> This may not be the correct group for this problem but I hope someone can help or point me in the right direction. I have been searching Apples Rhapsody/OpenStep documentation for any useful information regarding Rhapsody/OpenStep and internet access but to no avail. Apples page pointed me to this group as supplemental information so I don't think asking this simple question should compromise my NDA in any way. My problem is simple. How the hell do I get my IP address working on Rhapsody/OpenStep? I've tried the obvious like using SimpleNetwork, NetInfo, etc but all I've accomplished is getting Rhapsody to not boot. What am I missing? I have a cable modem that I was able to get working with MkLinux so Rhapsody shouldn't be a problem. Please email me a copy of any replys. Thanks, -Ralph -- Please send replys to rpreston at ultranet dot com
From: gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: broken "mt" command under 3.2 Date: 9 Dec 1997 09:21:12 GMT Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/CIRP/ Message-ID: <66j2i8$h3g10@biko.cc.rochester.edu> Originator: gtf@theorem I am using a DDS/DAT drive with my 68k NeXT (Release 3.2). It works great. The only problem seems to be that the "mt" (magtape) command does not have a way to fast-forward and append to an existing tape. (Check the man page if you don't believe me!) Under IRIX the corresponding command is "mt feom" and under FreeBSD it is "mt eom". This is so basic, I can't believe it is missing on the NeXT. I tried "fsr" and "fsf", but these return I/O errors when they reach the end of the tape. I must confess I do not fully understand tape files, tape records, end-of-file marks, etc. Is there an updated version of "mt" that I can download and compile under 3.2? Thanks g. -- Schroedinger's Cat had 4 1/2 lives. (Q: What was its half-life?!) ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)cirp.org> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? Date: 8 Dec 1997 18:54:59 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <66hfq3$1qg$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <66au44$ahk$1@brie.direct.ca> <65lnpg$2te$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> <669sqj$l0e$1@news2.digex.net> <66c1s0$i7s$1@news2.digex.net> <66d8sm$ld8$1@brie.direct.ca> ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: >> yep, squid looks good! its the same thing as using the apache server, >> though. am i right, the only real difference is the speed? they can both >> route FTP, HTTP, gopher. squid has better logging and debugging, though. > > The rerouting only seems to work for web browsers. What about getting it > to work for the regular command line ftp or GatorFTP? Such programs will only work if they understand how to use a proxy server. > I think the purpose of a proxy server is for use with the HTTP protocol > only. Am I missing something? Yes and no. They'll proxy more than just HTTP, although the way they do so is via the service specifier which wraps HTTP around FTP and the like. For example: 7-tellus% telnet www-proxy 3128 [ ...deleted... ] Escape character is '^]'. get ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub HTTP/1.0 HTTP/1.0 200 Gatewaying Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 18:46:25 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Server: Squid 1.2.beta7 Content-Type: text/html X-Cache: MISS <!-- HTML listing generated by Squid 1.2.beta7 --> <!-- Mon, 08 Dec 1997 18:46:25 GMT --> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE> FTP Directory: ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/ </TITLE> <BASE HREF="ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/"> </HEAD><BODY> <H2> FTP Directory: ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/ </H2> <PRE> [ ... ] -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <2329881470822@digifix.com> Date: 14 Dec 1997 04:59:39 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <18578882075626@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. 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From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NT partition rendered unbootable on dual-boot system--Help? Date: 9 Dec 1997 17:47:38 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <66k07q$9u2@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Hi all, I have the following partitions on my internal SCSI boot drive: Partition 1: OpenStep Partition 2: NT 4.0 The boot sector of the drive contains the OpenStep boot manager, from which I can load either OpenStep or NT. Now, recently I had the need to install the insidious Windows 95 to an external SCSI cartridge. For this purpose I set the cartridge drive as drive c: in the SCSI BIOS, so the W95 installation ought to have left my original boot drive alone (or so I thought). After completing the W95 installation and doing what I needed to do with W95, I reset my SCSI BIOS to boot off the internal disk. The OpenStep boot manager came up as before, and I was able to boot the OpenStep partition without any difficulty. HOWEVER, the NT 4.0 partition had apparently been rendered unbootable. I can mount the partition under both OpenStep and W95, and it appears to be fine on casual inspection. But something's obviously amiss. I do NOT have a current NT rescue disk. Sigh. Is there anything I can do short of re-installing NT to my second partition? Best, Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Internet & Rhapsody Date: 9 Dec 1997 15:20:28 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66jnjs$cio$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <nospam-0612972107590001@rpreston.ne.mediaone.net> <66i7md$77g$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <348d0fdc.0@maser.urz.unibas.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: frank@ifi.unibas.ch In <348d0fdc.0@maser.urz.unibas.ch> frank@ifi.unibas.ch wrote: > No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) wrote: > > Also, try setting up the domain name in /etc/resolv.conf: > > > > domain your.domain.com > > nameserver primary.ip.dns.server > > nameserver secondary.ip.dns.server > > Or you could put it into NetInfo: > /locations/resolver > name = resolver; > domain = your.domain.com; > nameserver = (primary.ip.dns.server, secondary.ip.dns.server); OmniGroup (makers of OmniWeb, OmniCD, OmniPDF, OmniScient ... ok I made that last one up) bundled a nice app called OmniDNS with OmniWeb for Rhapsody (it is also available for OpenStep) which is a very nice front end to putting the DNS information into NetInfo. See ftp://www.peak.org/pub/rhapsody/new_arrivals/ and/or www.omnigroup.com TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: cloaked@fornospam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Can I use a removeable hard drive with Openstep? Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 04:55:59 GMT Message-ID: <349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: IBM.NET I currently run Windoze 95 and would also like to run Openstep 4.2 ("Openstep for the intel" or is it "Openstep for the Mach"? -the one without WindowsNT). I have a 4 gig hard drive installed. I really don't want to go through the nightmare of trying to get two operating systems to work! I was thinking of one strategy: getting one of those removable hard drives. I am wondering if anyone else has done/does this? One other option would be the Iomega "Jazz" drive (though I swore I would never buy another thing from Iomega). Has any body ever done any of these? plese respond in the newsgroup. Thank you.
From: tom@sz-sb.de (Th. Fettig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Rhapsody - two things i'd need Date: 10 Dec 1997 11:40:23 +0100 Organization: Saarbruecker Zeitung InterNetNews site Sender: tom@saarland Message-ID: <7yvhwxv5uw.fsf@saarland.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-shoot-me> To make Rapsody my main development platform, i need two things: an X server and a HFS-driver for all the HFS-partitions on my HD. Do these exist yet? cu Thomas
From: Babak Ashrafi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: multivolume gnutar problem Date: 9 Dec 1997 18:11:56 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <66k1lc$nrq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> (if you reply by e-mail, please change Reply-to address in headers:ashrafi _at_ mit _dot_ edu) I made a backup of my system using gnutar --create --verbose --one-file-system --multi-volume --tape-length=97280 --exclude private/vm --exclude private/tmp --file=/Backup/12.8.tar ./ onto Zip disks. Then I tried to restore the archive into /tmp to see if it worked. There is enough free space to restore a couple of disks worth of stuff. The problem is that the archive is always inconsistent in the same way: gnutar -xvf /Backup/12.8.tar -lL 97280 -mM --same-owner --preserve-permissions reports .. file.n-2 file.n-1 file.n Prepare volume #2 for /Backup/12.8.tar and hit return: gnutar: file.n is not continued on this volume! Prepare volume #2 for /Backup/12.8.tar and hit return: gnutar -t reports that volume #2 starts with: M--------- 0/0 19459 Dec 31 20:00 1969 file.n+1--Continued at byte 16896-- -rw-r--r-- ashrafi/other 1187 Jul 12 18:51 1994 file.n+2 .. file.n is not continued in vol#2, and file.n+1, which is continued at the beginning of vol#2, was not listed in gnutar -xvf of vol#1. This is completely repeatable, but the problem files vary each time. So how do you make a consistent archive? TIA, Babak
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: boot manager disapear after installing windows95 Date: 6 Dec 1997 18:12:21 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66c4i5$ght$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <pzagiel-0502570153540001@cafc.eunet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pzagiel@odyssey.lu (NeXTAnswer 1470 is a really good one to bookmark.... FAQs at Tech Support) http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1470.htmld/1470.html#top-replacingthenextstepbootsector Replacing the NEXTSTEP boot sector Q: My NEXTSTEP PC doesn't display the prompt 'Press n for NEXTSTEP, d for DOS' when the system starts up, even though my disk has both DOS and NEXTSTEP partitions. How can I fix the disk so I can boot from either partition? A: Somehow the boot sector for the disk became corrupted or was removed. You need to replace it. Often this is caused by installing DOS 6.x or Windows95. As the user root, type this command in a Terminal window: disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a If you're using an IDE disk, substitute /dev/rhd0a for /dev/rsd0a. Note: You must execute this command as root. Incorrectly typing this command can have serious repercussions. Use caution when logged in as root. See also: NeXTanswer _1487_Intel_Boot_Process_ for details on booting. The NEXTSTEP fdisk(8) UNIX manual page and NeXTanswer _1130_Surviving_DOS_ TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Pine and NeXTMail on the same Machine Date: 6 Dec 1997 18:16:18 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66c4pi$ght$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <881370586.19853@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: info@andante.mn.org In <881370586.19853@dejanews.com> info@andante.mn.org wrote: > Is there a way to install Pine as the mail reader for a user account on a > NeXTStep 3.3 cube while all other users use the standard NeXT mailer. > This particular user will never log in to the window system and only > retrieve mail via rlogin (or su in Terminal.app on the same machine). I > want all other users to use the standard NeXTMailer as they do now. Yes. Of course. If you have pine installed on your system, then the work is done. All they have to do is start up pine. NeXT's Mail.app uses the same mailspool as pine uses (/usr/spool/mail/username). The only real difference is how they use Mailboxes (and there are compatibilities even there). However if they are never to use Mail.app it doesn't matter, they can just use pine. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: netinfo question Date: 14 Dec 1997 14:42:13 GMT Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/CIRP/ Message-ID: <670r85$m28@biko.cc.rochester.edu> References: <6642fr$ofk@news.acns.nwu.edu> <EKrFD1.Fo1@nidat.sub.org> <slrn68jng1.1el.liuyi@caiman.dragon-dance.com> Originator: gtf@theorem In relation to the present discussion: I believe my netinfo directory may be corrupted. (All of the data looks OK, but there may be something screwed up in the file that is causing my "hanging" problems.) I would like to "nidump" the whole bloody thing and then "niload" it again, to eliminate the possibility of this being a problem. What is the best way to do this? I can't do it in single-user mode because netinfo is not running, and it core-dumps when I try to start it by hand. And I don't want to do anything so drastic to it while the machine is up and running. Thanks g. -- Schroedinger's Cat had 4 1/2 lives. (Q: What was its half-life?!) ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)cirp.org> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
From: Chong Tim <chongt@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: DHCP & NeXT Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 23:47:31 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton Inc. Message-ID: <3493FF8E.128C1E2@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Can someone tell me if NeXT support DHCP way of containing IP addresses? Thanks in advance, Tim
From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can I use a removeable hard drive with Openstep? Yes! Date: 14 Dec 1997 16:55:03 GMT Organization: VTL Message-ID: <671317$6bb$1@wagner.videotron.net> References: <349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> In-Reply-To: <349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Yes, absolutely. We've been running Iomega Jazz drives and disks formatted for NEXTSTEP, OpenStep and DOS for well over a year and never had a problem. They are great ! (Under NEXTSTEP, OpenStep 4.2, and Windows'95.) The drives also ran flawlessly on black hardware. Andre E-Mail: info@scribex.com (NeXTMail - MIME - HTML - ASCII) WEB: www.scribex.com ========================================================== On 12/13/97, cloaked@fornospam.com wrote: > > I currently run Windoze 95 and would also like > to run Openstep 4.2 ("Openstep for the intel" or > is it "Openstep for the Mach"? -the one without > WindowsNT). I have a 4 gig hard drive installed. > I really don't want to go through the nightmare > of trying to get two operating systems to work! > > I was thinking of one strategy: getting one of those > removable hard drives. I am wondering if anyone else > has done/does this? One other option would be the > Iomega "Jazz" drive (though I swore I would never > buy another thing from Iomega). > > Has any body ever done any of these? plese respond > in the newsgroup. Thank you. >
From: markb@pmihwy.com (Mark A. Bialik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: default boot device not found Date: Mon, 15 Dec 97 00:50:02 GMT Organization: Infinity HealthCare, Inc. Message-ID: <671uoi$ek5$1@news2.alpha.net> Hi: I just got my first NeXT machine... pretty basic black box with 8MB RAM and a 400MB SCSI HD. I upgraded to 4.2, and now receive a "Default boot device not found" when the machine restarts. No big deal... I can do a b sd0 and everything comes up fine. Can someone tell me what I need to to stop the annoying message and get it to boot straight into the scsi disk? I assume my bootloader must be corrupted, since the disk is obviously bootable. Sorry for the newbie question. This is a mach machine, not intel or sparc. Thanks a bunch! Mark
From: "Chin H. Wu" <notchinwu@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can I use a removeable hard drive with Openstep? Date: 15 Dec 1997 07:02:54 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <01bd08d9$6eec0950$01ac2ac0@chinwu> References: <349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Hi, Look at NextAnswer. There is one for formatting Jaz disk with OpenStep 4.2 and one for installing the operating system. However, I was not successful in boot into OpenStep 4.2. My computer needs driver to recognize the Jaz disk. Your computer may be different. cloaked@fornospam.com wrote in article <349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>... > > I was thinking of one strategy: getting one of those > removable hard drives. I am wondering if anyone else > has done/does this? One other option would be the > Iomega "Jazz" drive (though I swore I would never > buy another thing from Iomega). >
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: OS/Mach/m68k 4.2 lookupd crashes Date: 15 Dec 1997 07:14:49 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <672ld9$fob@mochi.lava.net> I have just upgraded my old Cube from OS 4.1 to 4.2. I am using the pppd included with OS 4.2. However, lookupd has crashes 5 out of 5 times that I've tried to establish a PPP link. I have reverted lookupd to the OS 4.1 version which has crashed a couple of times, but seems less flakey so far. lookupd has been unstable since OS 4.0, but the OS 4.2 version seems the most unstable of all versions :-( Has anyone got any suggestions about how to make OS/m68k 4.2 work reliably as a mail server when mail is exchanged via a PPP link? Is anyone else experiencing lookupd crashes under OS/m68k 4.2? Is there any solution? Thanks. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: fstab: is this the proper setup? Date: 15 Dec 1997 09:09:47 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <672s4r$5ku@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <66t4hc$cjb$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) wrote: > >I confess that although I have read the man page I am still not sure about >the numbers at the end. Is this the right thing to use for /etc/fstab ? > >/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 >/dev/sd1a /Disk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 >/dev/sd2a /Disk2 4.3 rw,noquota 0 3 <<<snip>>> its almost exactly what we use in at least 4 NeXTs (black and white). the second-last numbers differ (I don't know exactly why I set them 0, 1, ..., but it worked for a loooong time) /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd0b /scratch 4.3 rw,noquota 1 2 -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: fstab: is this the proper setup? Date: 15 Dec 1997 09:44:56 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / CC Message-ID: <672u6o$6j3$1@newshost> References: <66t4hc$cjb$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <66t4hc$cjb$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) writes: > > I confess that although I have read the man page I am still not sure about > the numbers at the end. Is this the right thing to use for /etc/fstab ? > > /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 > /dev/sd1a /Disk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 > /dev/sd2a /Disk2 4.3 rw,noquota 0 3 That's ok like that. The '0's are the 'frequency' for backups with dump. The second number (passno) might be worth to have a closer look at: Upon startup, if the file systems are not in 'clean' state, fsck first checks all (UNIX-)partitions having passno '1'. Then all with passno '2', then '3', ... fsck should be able to check multiple disks simultaneously. While you shouldn't do that for your root file system (which should always have passno '1'), you could set passnos for Disk and Disk2 both to '2' to check them concurrently. HOWEVER, this is only useful if such (UNIX-)partitions are located on physically different disks !! If so, you'll get a speedup (during fsck) since the two disks can position independently. If the partitions are on the same physical disk, you'll get a slow-down since the head positioning isn't independent. Hope this helps Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Universitaet Koblenz, FB Informatik | Fon:+49 261 9119-421 Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany | Fax:+49 261 9119-497 NeXT/MIME/Email: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de Drop the "Drop_This." part in my Email-address to reply.
From: sg18@acpub.duke.edu (Subir Grewal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Linux & NeXT Network Date: 15 Dec 1997 10:08:26 GMT Organization: Trill Host Selection Committee Message-ID: <672viq$4v5$2@news.duke.edu> References: <65nsmu$2ev$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> <65qfks$7vr$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <66sllv$kja$1@news.duke.edu> <66uige$g2e$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Michal Jaegermann (michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca) wrote: : Very bad and illegal choice. There are ranges set aside explicitely : for internal networks. Sure, I know that, and I don't advise people to do the same, but I have yet to experience a problem (don't you like living on the edge ;~) : : 2. I set up routed on both machines : Sounds like a gross overkill with two (or three, or four) machines : on a common piece of a cable. Static routing will work equally well. : Also synchronizing /etc/hosts tables (on NeXT this goes into Netinfo) : does not sound like a very difficult taks here, so you really do not : need to run bind. Then your /etc/resolv.conf can simply point to : nameserver(s) for your ISP and everything is happy without special : fiddling. I do have a static route for the internal network, but I connect to more than one ISP, and set the default on the fly. -- hostmaster@trill-home.com + Lynx 2.7.1 + NeXT/PGP mail + www.crl.com/~subir/ It is better to never have tried anything than to have tried something and failed. - motto of jerks, weenies and losers everywhere
From: "Stefano Pisati" <Stefano.Pisati@IrisTech.it> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: [Q] SKEY server for NeXTStep 3.3 ??? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:17:56 +0100 Organization: Iris Technologies Message-ID: <673104$nms$1@urano.inet.it> Anyone has a .pkg or source code that works on NS3.3 ??? I need SKEY but I can't find anywhere a version for NS :-( TIA Stefano
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [Q] SKEY server for NeXTStep 3.3 ??? Date: 15 Dec 1997 12:44:11 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6738mr$ga6$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <673104$nms$1@urano.inet.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Stefano.Pisati@IrisTech.it In <673104$nms$1@urano.inet.it> "Stefano Pisati" wrote: > Anyone has a .pkg or source code that works on NS3.3 ??? > I need SKEY but I can't find anywhere a version for NS :-( You might try: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/unix/skey.NIHS.bs.tar.gz TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Emile de Kleine <e.de.kleine@med.rug.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: loginwindow Date: 15 Dec 1997 14:14:14 GMT Organization: Rijksuniversiteit Groningen Message-ID: <673dvm$s17$1@info.service.rug.nl> Hi, I do not want the moving next icon on my loginwindow. Instead I would like my screen to become black (then my monitor will power-down). In Preferences.app it seems possible (for root) to choose a costum screensaver. How do I do this? Can I use BackSpace.app for example? I'm working with OpenStep 4.0 for Mach. Thanks, Emile
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DHCP & NeXT Date: 15 Dec 1997 14:33:56 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <673f4k$6h2$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <3493FF8E.128C1E2@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: chongt@bah.com In <3493FF8E.128C1E2@bah.com> Chong Tim wrote: > Can someone tell me if NeXT support DHCP way of containing IP addresses? No, Next machines can't use DHCP, neither as a client nor as a server. They can, however, use BOOTP which is an older protocol for performing much the same function. Many DHCP servers will also support BOOTP for backwards compatibility, but the simplest way to get good results is to use the netinfo based built-in BOOTP facility. Simply record the ethernet Mac address of your client machines via HostManager.app (obtain these by `grep Ether /usr/adm/messages') and set all the client machines to -AUTOMATIC- IP numbers, using the `local' menu item, again in HostManager.app Cheers, Matthew [Posted and mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Rhapsody boot problem Date: 15 Dec 1997 14:48:29 GMT Organization: Delft University of Technology Message-ID: <673fvt$98v$1@news.tudelft.nl> References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971213200010.1908B-100000@clark.net> <gbh@middlemarch.net> writes > Rhapsody/Intel now sleeps when I boot my machine. > I installed an ethernet card, booted, used Configure.app > to load the driver, then rebooted. It gets most of the > way through (I had to hit ctl-c a couple of times to > continue), then reaches this point; > > Starting timed execution services > Dec 13 14:26:50 myhost WindowServer[319]: NetInfo timeout > connecting to local domain, sleeping > > It then hangs. I tried using ctl-c but it did not continue. > What needs to be done to boot correctly? > > --Greg > type at the boot prompt: config=default then remove the faulty settings in the configure manager Abraham. _____________________________________________________________________ Abraham Guyt P.O.Box 356 Department of Information Systems 2600 AJ Delft Faculty Information Technology & Systems The Netherlands Delft University of Technology tel: +31 15 278 5969 E-mail: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl NeXT-mail welcome
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: netinfo question Date: 15 Dec 1997 16:14:27 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <673l13$6h2$2@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <6642fr$ofk@news.acns.nwu.edu> <EKrFD1.Fo1@nidat.sub.org> <slrn68jng1.1el.liuyi@caiman.dragon-dance.com> <670r85$m28@biko.cc.rochester.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gtf@cirp.org In <670r85$m28@biko.cc.rochester.edu> Geoffrey T. Falk wrote: > In relation to the present discussion: > > I believe my netinfo directory may be corrupted. (All of the data looks OK, > but there may be something screwed up in the file that is causing my > "hanging" problems.) I would like to "nidump" the whole bloody thing > and then "niload" it again, to eliminate the possibility of this being > a problem. From the command line: nidump -r / . > local.nidump nidump -r / / > root.nidump (repeat as necessary for any other netinfo domains you have lying about). You can then edit the ascii dumps to fix any problems. To reload: niload -p -r -d / . < local.nidump which will prompt you for the password and then completely overwrite the contents of your local netinfo domain. This is, needless to say, a very risky operation and quite likely to render your machine unusable if anything goes wrong. > What is the best way to do this? I can't do it in single-user mode > because netinfo is not running, and it core-dumps when I try to start > it by hand. And I don't want to do anything so drastic to it while the > machine is up and running. A somewhat safer way of loading up a whole netinfo domain is this: nidomain -m local-new niload -t -p -r -d / localhost/local-new < local.nidump To replace the current `local' domain with the edited version in `local-new' boot into single user mode and run the following commands: cd /etc/netinfo mv local.nidb local-old.nidb mv local-new.nidb local.nidb and then reboot back to multi-user. [You can get away with doing this in multiuser mode if you like living dangerously. However, you will need to make netinfo redo it's binding: kill -HUP `cat /etc/nibindd.pid` ] Similar tricks apply to other netinfo domains. Cheers, Matthew -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: Scott Turner <Scott@MacEquation.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Rhapsody Admin Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:52:12 -0500 Organization: Delmarva Power and Light Co. Message-ID: <3495603B.C6A0D37@MacEquation.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First of all, I'm a relative newbie when it comes to Unix. So, please be gentle. If there's a more appropriate group to post to, let me know. I'm running Rhapsody DR1 for Intel on a cobbled together pentium machine. Here's the question; is there any way to log in as root while using the Rhapsody GUI? So far, I've had to open a terminal window, log in as root (su root), and use the command line interface to copy and edit files in directories where I don't have access from the GUI. Apparantly, I'm logged in as 'me' for the GUI. For a long time Mac addict, it's a tough transition. Thanks for any help, Scott Turner
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: disk utility won't respect disktab partitions Date: 8 Dec 1997 16:22:56 GMT Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany Message-ID: <66h6t0$feg1@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <66e74r$8pc$1@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu> Many Thanks (parse@my.sig-below.net) wrote: : BACKGROUND: I'm tryint to install a 2.1GB IBM UltraStar 2ES under NS 3.3 : on black hardware. : : [...] : the following entry in /etc/disktab : : DCAS-32160|IBM DCAS-32160|IBM DCAS-32160-512:\ : :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#8188:nt#3:ns#171:ss#512:rm#5400:\ : [...] : But when I call disk from the command line, I get : Are you sure, that "IBM_DCAS-32160" as in the -t below is the correct transcription of a type "IBM DCAS-32160" as given above (mind the underscore ("_"))? : myhost# disk -t IBM_DCAS-32160 -i /dev/rsd1a : disk name: IBM_DCAS-32160 : disk type: fixed_rw_scsi : [...] : WHAT GIVES? I thought if I had a disktab entry I wouldn't need to use the : -p flag. Any help, hints or suggestions would be most welcome. I know, the description had to be exact to the letter and casing of the word and thought, that even a '-t' isn't necessary, if the SCSI identification string is equal to the entry in /etc/disktab Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Would bad network card hang netinfo? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:52:48 -0800 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971215084828.2024A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Reply-To: " I'm running NS 3.3 for Intel. After a reboot, my network isn't working. The only other symptom is that NetInfoManager hangs when I try to run it. The ethernet card is recognized fine on reboot. The only error message I get is "autonfsmount: Can't find my address." Is it possible that a broken ethernet card could cause these symptoms while still being recognized during the reboot? I've tried everything else from reloading netinfo to ditto'ing the entire OS. I'm running out of ideas. Rob
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Pb compatibility between 2 NeXT Date: 15 Dec 1997 17:13:34 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Message-ID: <673ofu$ped$4@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <348FB292.41448E8C@lucent.com> Frederic LAURENT <fl4@lucent.com> wrote: >I've got 2 NeXT Stations. The first is a monochrome station, and the >second is a color station. >The monochrome station runs normally. >The problem is that the color station hard disk is breakdown. >So I want to put the monochrone station hard disk into the color one, >but then the color station doesn't boot. I execute >bsd >but it doesn't start. What can i do to solve my problem ? Hm, I've swapped disks between color and mono stations before, no problems at all. Maybe your hard disc died? Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Rhapsody Admin Date: 15 Dec 1997 17:16:17 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <673ol1$6h2$3@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <3495603B.C6A0D37@MacEquation.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Scott@MacEquation.com In <3495603B.C6A0D37@MacEquation.com> Scott Turner wrote: > Here's the question; is there any way to log in as root while using the > Rhapsody GUI? So far, I've had to open a terminal window, log in as > root (su root), and use the command line interface to copy and edit > files in directories where I don't have access from the GUI. > Apparantly, I'm logged in as 'me' for the GUI. For a long time Mac > addict, it's a tough transition. That's a FAQ. The `me' account is special, in that if it exists and *doesn't* have a password, the WorkSpace will automatically log in to it. All you need to do is go into Preferences.app (ie double click on the clock/calendar), select the password module (the Padlock Icon) and set a password on the `me' account. Now, if you log out (Cmd-q in workspace), you will be presented with the login panel, where you can log in as any user, including root. In fact, as soon as you get logged in as root, fire up UserManager.app and do two things: i) Set a password on the root account, if you haven't already. ii) Make yourself a personal account rather than fiddling about with `me' all the time. In fact, I'd go so far as completely deleting the `me' account. Cheers, Matthew [Posted and Mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Rhapsody Admin Date: 15 Dec 1997 18:05:56 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <673ri4$g1m$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <3495603B.C6A0D37@MacEquation.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Scott Turner wrote: > Here's the question; is there any way to log in as root while using the > Rhapsody GUI? So far, I've had to open a terminal window, log in as > root (su root), and use the command line interface to copy and edit > files in directories where I don't have access from the GUI. Use Preferences.app to set a password for the 'me' account; this will enable the login panel. Log in as root (no pasword required at first) and set a password for that account, too. Done. > Apparantly, I'm logged in as 'me' for the GUI. For a long time Mac > addict, it's a tough transition. It was bound to happen anyway. Accept your fate; you don't have a choice. Except maybe going Windows, but we don't want that, do we? :) Holger -- Holger Hoffstaette - holger"at"object-factory.com Object Factory GmbH - http://www.object-factory.com/ Rhapsody: The power to crush the other consultants.
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: disk utility won't respect disktab partitions Date: 8 Dec 1997 16:16:41 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Dec8102955@slave.doubleu.com> References: <66e74r$8pc$1@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu> In-reply-to: parse@my.sig-below.net's message of 7 Dec 1997 13:08:43 GMT In article <66e74r$8pc$1@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu>, parse@my.sig-below.net (Many Thanks) writes: BACKGROUND: I'm tryint to install a 2.1GB IBM UltraStar 2ES under NS 3.3 on black hardware. PROBLEM: The disk utility will ignore my disktab entry and instead partitions the disk roughly in half. Odd. I _know_ I've managed to make disk respect disktab, but it's been a year or more, so the details are fuzzy... But when I call disk from the command line, I get myhost# disk -t IBM_DCAS-32160 -i /dev/rsd1a disk name: IBM_DCAS-32160 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Read those lines carefully! It looks to me like you specified the name as the type, but disk thinks the type is fixed_rw_scsi. Of course, since the disk type reported matches that of your disktab, it should work. But perhaps if you specified -t fixed_rw_scsi it will work better. The disktab I used had ty=many_part, and had more than two partitions. But it was just an experiment, understand, the partitioning scheme in question no longer exists... WHAT GIVES? I thought if I had a disktab entry I wouldn't need to use the -p flag. Any help, hints or suggestions would be most welcome. What's wrong with -p? I like -p! I only wish that you could specify multiple -p options. [Actually, can you? I can't recall that I ever have!] -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: How to share FD,OD,CD-ROM drives with black NeXTs? Message-ID: <EL8wvt.Lno@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 19:31:04 GMT Yes, I'd like to configure two or more black NeXT machines to share the same set of drives. The sysadmin manual does not say how to do this. Since this is doable with SUN machine, I guess this should be doable with NeXT. I do not want to manually mount each media. Thanks for any help.
From: Andreas Moster <"Andreas.Moster"@(REMOVE.THIS)swol.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can I use a removeable hard drive with Openstep? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:17:01 +0100 Organization: personal Message-ID: <34958d88.0@news.swol.de> References: <349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cloaked@fornospam.com cloaked@fornospam.com wrote: > I currently run Windoze 95 and would also like > to run Openstep 4.2 ("Openstep for the intel" or > is it "Openstep for the Mach"? -the one without > WindowsNT). I have a 4 gig hard drive installed. > I really don't want to go through the nightmare > of trying to get two operating systems to work! > > I was thinking of one strategy: getting one of those > removable hard drives. I am wondering if anyone else > has done/does this? One other option would be the > Iomega "Jazz" drive (though I swore I would never > buy another thing from Iomega). > > Has any body ever done any of these? plese respond > in the newsgroup. Thank you. Hi, your idea is great :-) I thought the same 1 year ago and i'm still happy with this solution. Only NT 4.0 you can't install on a Jazz medium, because NT detects a removable disk and will not install. I run W95, Nextstep 3.3, Openstep 4.2 Mach for Intel (this is the right name :-) and Rhapsody on Jazz and it's great. Only one time a had a problem with W95 but i'm not sure about it. I powered off my computer without having ejected the jazz disk, that resulted in a damaged W95 (wasn't able to boot). All was terminated correctly, perhaps a problem with my Adaptec 2842. But today i'm afraid of powering off the maschine without having ejected the medium. So better do it the same way :-) Enjoy your Jazz! best, Andreas. -- Andreas Moster @: Andreas.Moster@(REMOVE.THIS)swol.de
From: Chris Roehrig <croehrig@House.ORG> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: drivers to print on a NeXTPrinter from Windows NT? Date: 15 Dec 1997 20:11:38 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <6742tq$5kq$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <66rvca$513$14@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> In article <66rvca$513$14@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> writes: > Jaime Guerrero <jaime.guerrero@sun.com> wrote: > > For those on mixed networks, what printer driver do you select in > > Windows to be able to properly print onto your NeXTPrinter hosted by an > > old NeXT slab? > > Adobe's PPD site has a printer description specificly for the NeXT Laser > Printer. Reportedly, you could also claim the printer is an Apple > LaserWriter, and that should work pretty well. The problem with using other Postscript printer drivers is that most Postscript printers have the basic Adobe fonts including Bookman, New Century Schoolbook, Palatino, etc., whereas NeXTs only have Times Roman, Helvetica and Courier. So any documents using any other Adobe basic fonts won't come out correctly on NeXT printers. (NeXT's DPS will do a font substitution with Courier or something. ugh.) Two solutions: the Adobe NeXTprinter PPD correctly tells WinNT/95 what fonts are available on the printer so WinNT can do a reasonable font substitution. Alternatively, you can buy Adobe Type Basics for $99 and convert them so you'll have a full set of Postscript fonts for your NeXTPrinter. (In which case you wouldn't use the NeXTprinter PPD.) -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Driver for SoundBlaster AWE 64 Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Message-ID: <Or8CF6ZC9GA.219@ntawwabp.compuserve.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:15:06 -0500 Hello, did someone know if there is a driver for SoundBlaster AWE 64 for NS 3.3 on Intel avaiable and where I can get it ? Thanks in advance. L. Kwasniok ---------------------------------------------------------------- L. Kwasniok Hannover / Germany e-mail : 101667.1750@compuserve.com (ASCII, MIME) -- Lutz Kwasniok Hannover Germany Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (MIME, ASCII)
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DHCP & NeXT Date: 15 Dec 1997 22:45:01 GMT Organization: 21st Century Software, New York City Message-ID: <674btd$blj$1@megatron.usfca.edu> References: <3493FF8E.128C1E2@bah.com> <673f4k$6h2$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk In <673f4k$6h2$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Matthew Seaman wrote: > No, Next machines can't use DHCP, neither as a client nor as a server. They > can, however, use BOOTP which is an older protocol for performing much the > same function. Many DHCP servers will also support BOOTP for backwards > compatibility, but the simplest way to get good results is to use the netinfo > based built-in BOOTP facility. Simply record the ethernet Mac address of > your client machines via HostManager.app (obtain these by `grep Ether > /usr/adm/messages') and set all the client machines to -AUTOMATIC- IP > numbers, using the `local' menu item, again in HostManager.app actually.. I ported and am currently using ISC dhclient to dynamically configure my NeXT cube here in the dorms. It requires the NeXT port of the Berkeley Packet Filter, also. I have sent in my changes to the dhclient maintainer and they should be folded into the next beta release. If you need the software now, feel free to contact me. -- :: d a v i d y o u n g ::::: smtp dwy@ace.net http www.ace.net ::
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Driver for SoundBlaster AWE 64 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 15 Dec 1997 23:08:15 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <674d8v$d3s$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <Or8CF6ZC9GA.219@ntawwabp.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 101667.1750@CompuServe.COM NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Please read http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html rather than crossposting. In <Or8CF6ZC9GA.219@ntawwabp.compuserve.com> Lutz Kwasniok wrote: > did someone know if there is a driver for SoundBlaster AWE 64 for > NS 3.3 on Intel avaiable and where I can get it ? Try searching for 'SoundBlaster AWE 64' at http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/Search.html and you'll find two entries but I am not sure which one is the one you need. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: How to share FD,OD,CD-ROM drives with black NeXTs? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 15 Dec 1997 23:19:24 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <674dts$d3s$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <EL8wvt.Lno@midway.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Please either pick *a* group or set the Followups-To line .. .see http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html for a useful guide (man I need a macro for this ;-) In <EL8wvt.Lno@midway.uchicago.edu> Andrew Chang wrote: > > Yes, I'd like to configure two or more black NeXT machines to share > the same set of drives. The sysadmin manual does not say how to do this. > Since this is doable with SUN machine, I guess this should be doable > with NeXT. I do not want to manually mount each media. Do you mean share at the same time? You want NFS if you mean at the same time, if you mean something else I'm not sure what you mean. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can I use a removeable hard drive with Openstep? Date: 16 Dec 1997 02:13:04 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Dec15201647@slave.doubleu.com> References: <349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <34958d88.0@news.swol.de> In-reply-to: Andreas Moster's message of Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:17:01 +0100 In article <34958d88.0@news.swol.de>, Andreas Moster <"Andreas.Moster"@(REMOVE.THIS)swol.de> writes: Only NT 4.0 you can't install on a Jazz medium, because NT detects a removable disk and will not install. Odd. I have an emergency NT4.0 bootdisk on a Syquest EZFlyer. I do recall having some problems with NT, but I don't quite recall how I fixed it. My best recollection is that I removed _all_ other devices from the SCSI subsystem, except for the CD-ROM and the EZFlyer. Either that, or I built it to a normal disk and did a disk copy. But that seems to overboard, even for me :-), -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: default boot device not found Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EL8tDz.95C@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 18:15:35 GMT References: <671uoi$ek5$1@news2.alpha.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <671uoi$ek5$1@news2.alpha.net>, Mark A. Bialik <markb@pmihwy.com> wrote: >Hi: > >I just got my first NeXT machine... pretty basic black box with 8MB RAM and a >400MB SCSI HD. I upgraded to 4.2, and now receive a "Default boot device not >found" when the machine restarts. No big deal... I can do a b sd0 and >everything comes up fine. Can someone tell me what I need to to stop the >annoying message and get it to boot straight into the scsi disk? You have to set the default boot command...use the "p" command. It will ask you a bunch of questions, one of which concerns the boot command. Enter sd0 and you'll likely be all set. >This is a mach machine, not intel or sparc. > Anything running NeXTSTEP or OPENSTEP for Mach runs Mach. Just FYI. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Internet & Rhapsody References: <nospam-0612972107590001@rpreston.ne.mediaone.net> <66i7md$77g$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Message-ID: <348d0fdc.0@maser.urz.unibas.ch> Date: 9 Dec 97 09:31:08 GMT No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) wrote: > In <nospam-0612972107590001@rpreston.ne.mediaone.net> Oogie Boogie wrote: > > > My problem is simple. How the hell do I get my IP address working on > > Rhapsody/OpenStep? I've tried the obvious like using SimpleNetwork, > > NetInfo, etc but all I've accomplished is getting Rhapsody to not boot. > > What am I missing? > > Is there a HostManager.app in Rhapsody? If so, I would put the information > in there under the 'Local' menu item (assuming that still exists). > > You could also try putting it in /etc/hostconfig something like: > > HOSTNAME=yourhostname > INETADDR=your.ip.address.here. > ROUTER=router.IP.address.here > IPNETMASK=255.255.255.0 > IPBROADCAST=broadcase.ip.address.here > NETMASTER=-NO- > YPDOMAIN=-NO- > TIME=-NO- Might want to try: NETMASTER=-YES- (unless you have a NetInfo server somewhere else and you want this host to be a slave) > All of those must be numerical (except the hostname). > > Also, try setting up the domain name in /etc/resolv.conf: > > domain your.domain.com > nameserver primary.ip.dns.server > nameserver secondary.ip.dns.server Or you could put it into NetInfo: /locations/resolver name = resolver; domain = your.domain.com; nameserver = (primary.ip.dns.server, secondary.ip.dns.server); -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: cloaked@fornospam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can I use a removeable hard drive with Openstep? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 23:56:10 GMT Message-ID: <349ac366.165106113@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <01bd08d9$6eec0950$01ac2ac0@chinwu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: IBM.NET >Hi, > Look at NextAnswer. There is one for formatting Jaz disk with OpenStep >4.2 and one for installing the operating system. However, I was not >successful in boot into OpenStep 4.2. My computer needs driver to recognize >the Jaz disk. Your computer may be different. Thats terrible news :( The nextanswers says you can use the (i.e.) jazz disk, but what I was wondering if I could use it as my *only* disk----and just swap operating systems when the need arose. > >cloaked@fornospam.com wrote in article ><349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>... >> >> I was thinking of one strategy: getting one of those >> removable hard drives. I am wondering if anyone else >> has done/does this? One other option would be the >> Iomega "Jazz" drive (though I swore I would never >> buy another thing from Iomega). >>
From: cloaked@fornospam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can I use a removeable hard drive with Openstep? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 23:57:59 GMT Message-ID: <349bc3b4.165184476@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <34958d88.0@news.swol.de> <SCOTT.97Dec15201647@slave.doubleu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: IBM.NET On 16 Dec 1997 02:13:04 GMT, scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) wrote: >In article <34958d88.0@news.swol.de>, > Andreas Moster <"Andreas.Moster"@(REMOVE.THIS)swol.de> writes: > Only NT 4.0 you can't install on a Jazz medium, because NT detects > a removable disk and will not install. Odd, indeed! Why would NT do this? bug? I am still trying to find someone that swaps operating systems, and uses only a removable drive. I know that openstep etc. will work on a removable drive---but I'm wanting to make it the only drive, and simply swap back and forth when I want to switch. > >Odd. I have an emergency NT4.0 bootdisk on a Syquest EZFlyer. I do >recall having some problems with NT, but I don't quite recall how I >fixed it. My best recollection is that I removed _all_ other devices >from the SCSI subsystem, except for the CD-ROM and the EZFlyer. > >Either that, or I built it to a normal disk and did a disk copy. But >that seems to overboard, even for me :-),
From: kwiesel@pollux.js.uni-bonn.de (Konstantin Wiesel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: ATI RAGE PRO 8MB with NS/OS Date: 16 Dec 1997 20:28:21 GMT Organization: private Message-ID: <676o95$jvo@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, did anybody successfully use such a card equipped with 8MB under NS or OS. I can make it run with 4MB but the 8MB version does not work although i am using the same settings. --- uzs8n8@uni-bonn.de
From: dhassell@diamond.tufts.edu (David Hassell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Linked Home Directories Date: 17 Dec 1997 00:02:37 GMT Organization: Tufts University Message-ID: <6774qt$pm5$1@news3.tufts.edu> I've set up my /Users directory to link to /loc/users/ on a separate device where I hoped to place user directories. For some reason, if I create users with /Users/<username>, sometimes the $home variable is set to /, and in all cases, the .cshrc in the users' homes are not sourced. Any ideas? Thanks. - Dave -- David Hassell dhassell@emerald.tufts.edu Tufts Varsity Crew @diamond.tufts.edu Residential Computer Consultant, @eecs.tufts.edu Area Supervisor http://www.tufts.edu/~dhassell/crew.html
From: ipcan@aol.com (Ipcan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: REPOST: REBATES FOR PENTIUM OVERDRIVE PROCESSORS Date: 17 Dec 1997 03:34:32 GMT Message-ID: <19971217033400.WAA17409@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com On October 3, the California Santa Clara County Superior Court approved the settlement of a class action against Intel. The settlement included a rebate program entitling purchasers of computers with 120 and 133 MHZ Pentium processors during the period October 23, 1995 to January 5, 1996 to $50 rebates on the purchase of a Pentium OverDrive processor. The rebate certificates are freely transferable and can be sold to anyone. To recieve a rebate certificate, those eligible need to download a Request Form from Intel's website at www.intel.com/procs/support/pentium/certif/certif.htm and send it to Intel in accordance with its instructions, or call Intel at 800-628-8686. The rebate coupon portion of the settlement was directed toward a short period of time during which Intel had admitted having disseminated incorrect SPECint92 benchmark test results. The most significant result of the settlement requires Intel to disclose in all future disseminations to consumers that the SPEC benchmark results and iCOMP Index 2.0 scores may have been calculated using differently configured systems. These disclosures inform consumers that the ratings for different Intel microprocessors are not directly comparable.
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Linked Home Directories Date: 17 Dec 1997 03:48:34 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <677i2i$pcu$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <6774qt$pm5$1@news3.tufts.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dhassell@diamond.tufts.edu In <6774qt$pm5$1@news3.tufts.edu> David Hassell wrote: > I've set up my /Users directory to link to /loc/users/ on a separate > device where I hoped to place user directories. For some reason, if I > create users with /Users/<username>, sometimes the $home variable is set > to /, and in all cases, the .cshrc in the users' homes are not sourced. > Any ideas? Thanks. Is the /loc/users/ disk mounted in /etc/fstab ? When they login and the $home = / can they 'cd' to their home dir? Does it work any better with another login shell, like the spiffy zsh which is better in every way imaginable ;-? TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <19971217033400.WAA17409@ladder01.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19971217033400.WAA17409@ladder01.news.aol.com> Date: 17 Dec 1997 04:13:47 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.19971217033400.WAA17409@ladder01.news.aol.com> Sender: ipcan@aol.com (Ipcan) Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: <gbh@middlemarch.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Viewing incoming data Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:05:04 -0500 Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971216230422.6616B-100000@clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm trying to read the log a router sends to my computer. I can specify a UDP server IP address and port number for the router to send it to. But once I set it to my IP address, how do I view the log? The default port number is 514 (syslog). I'd like to see the log in a window as it comes in. --Greg
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.nsc,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops Subject: cmsg cancel <677jo3$rpg$800@news.tm.net.my> Control: cancel <677jo3$rpg$800@news.tm.net.my> Date: 17 Dec 1997 04:48:48 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.677jo3$rpg$800@news.tm.net.my> Sender: lugkvy@money.com (dyyqih) Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: processes becoming "Uninterruptible" (3.2/Black) Date: 17 Dec 1997 05:00:32 GMT Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/CIRP/ Message-ID: <677m9g$kpn23@biko.cc.rochester.edu> Originator: gtf@theorem It seems I am having a lot of problems with my system recently. No idea what is causing this. Some server processes keep getting stuck in "U" (uninterruptible) state according to "ps". When this happens, I cannot kill the process even with "kill -9", I have to do an ungraceful restart, forcing an fsck. From "ps -augwwx": www 5030 0.0 1.4 1.78M 456K co U 5:08 httpd The following output lines from "lsof" may offer a clue about this process: httpd-1.2 5030 www 6u inet 0x1014fae0 0t0 TCP *:http httpd-1.2 5030 www 7u inet 0t41527 TCP no protocol control block What is a "protocol control block" and how can I ensure that processes don't lose theirs? (3.2/Mach/Black). Thanks g. -- Schroedinger's Cat had 4 1/2 lives. (Q: What was its half-life?!) ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500 Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)cirp.org> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
From: cloaked@fornospam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can I use a removeable hard drive with Openstep? Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:48:07 GMT Message-ID: <34a512e0.251012630@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <34958d88.0@news.swol.de> <SCOTT.97Dec15201647@slave.doubleu.com> <349bc3b4.165184476@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: IBM.NET > >I am still trying to find someone that swaps operating systems, and >uses only a removable drive. I know that openstep etc. will work on a >removable drive---but I'm wanting to make it the only drive, and >simply swap back and forth when I want to switch. Whoops, did find someone that does this! But see followup in the right newsgroup, I don't think this belongs in sysadmin (?) because its not really a networking question. Thanks. > > >> >>Odd. I have an emergency NT4.0 bootdisk on a Syquest EZFlyer. I do >>recall having some problems with NT, but I don't quite recall how I >>fixed it. My best recollection is that I removed _all_ other devices >>from the SCSI subsystem, except for the CD-ROM and the EZFlyer. >> >>Either that, or I built it to a normal disk and did a disk copy. But >>that seems to overboard, even for me :-),
From: dale@wcodot.com (Dale Tersey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Level 0 dump fails to reset Date: 17 Dec 1997 08:09:22 GMT Organization: NeXTStep and UNIX Admin Message-ID: <6781bi$o3a$2@news.ncal.verio.com> I am running a NeXTStep 3,3 (Intel) server and I am trying to do incremental dumps of the file system. Shen I successfully run a Level 0 dump on two tapes, I should be able to do a Level 3 dump following. However, on my level 3 dump I get the message "Last Level 0 dump: The epoch" and the level 3 dump tries to do all files. I tried doing a Level 0 dump to /dev/null to reset the register but get the same "epoch" message for a subsequent level 3 dump. Any insight on how to force the system to see the last level 0 dump and acknowledge the files that were dumped would be appreciated. Dale Tersey NeXTStep and WinNT Administrator
Message-ID: <34977004.887E2F0A@post.kos.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 01:24:04 -0500 From: "Lamontagne Geophysics Ltd." <lamont@post.kos.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: newbie Rhapsody DR1 networking question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Kingston Online Services Help! My Rhapsody development machine is currently an island in a sea of Macs, all connected by Ethernet. I can't seem to get networking running under Rhapsody, even to the point where I can ftp files back and forth. After browsing through the documentation, I was eventually directed to the chapter on mixed network configurations. When I follow the instructions verbatim, the Host Manager forces me to reboot (expected), and then Rhapsody stalls as it is starting up NetInfo. Whatever damage I've done is serious enough that I cannot restore the OS (even by replacing netinfo and hostconfig with their original templates), and I am forced to reinstall the whole system from CD-ROM (a MAJOR pain). Can anyone offer me even a minimalist recipe, just so I can get off the ground? Ted This article was posted from <A HREF="http://www.slurp.net/">Slurp Net</A>.
From: chang@panix.com (Ray Chang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: error writing disk label on TurboColor NS3.2 Date: 13 Dec 1997 08:40:30 -0500 Organization: p Distribution: usa Message-ID: <66u38e$88u@panix2.panix.com> Hi, I bought a Western Digital Enterprise 4360 scsi 4.36 gig drive and I'm having problem partitioning the drive. I've read and followed entry # 1533, Initializing and Partioning Large Disks, on NeXTanswers, but I'm getting errors when executing the disk command. Also, I'm not sure of the correct jumper settings on the drive. I'll do some experiment when I find some jumpers. I've attatched some relevant infomation at the end of this article. Please advise. Thanks, Ray chang@panix.com Hardware: NeXTstation TurboColor OS: NS 3.2 nxray:20# disk -l WD4360 -i /dev/rsd1a disk name: WDIGTL ENTERPRISE-512 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label ....r/w returned -1; expected 50176 Write of boot block 0 failed ....r/w returned -1; expected 50176 Write of boot block 1 failed No boot blocks on disk nxray:21# nxray:21# scsimodes /dev/rsd1a SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: WDIGTL ENTERPRISE 512 bytes per sector 193 sectors per track 8 tracks per cylinder 5720 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 1190 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 8515172 usable sectors on volume nxray:22# Entry from disktab: WD4360|WD4360-512|WDIGTL ENTERPRISE-512:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#5720:nt#8:ns#193:ss#512:rm#7200:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#2097152:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#2097152:sb#2097152:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD:\ :pc#4194304:sc#2621440:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#32:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\ :ic:tc=4.3BSD:\ :pd#6815744:sd#1699108:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#32:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\ :id:td=4.3BSD: Current jumper settings: jumper installed feature no Spindle Synchronization no SCAM no Disable Target Initiated Synchronous/Wide Negotiation
From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Newbie to NeXT hardware needs help Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:57:44 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <3498E586.C1D46FBA@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I got a few questions here, but first of all, let me tell you guys some info: me just purchased a Turbo Color Station system with no HD (thus a newbie to the NeXT hardware; the machine is on its way to me), currently I have one Intel P166 running OS4.2 Mach, and a pal has a NeXTCube Turbo with NS3.3. 1. As I understand, NeXT hardware has difficulties with HD more that 1G? It needs something like disktab? Has anyone even used a Micropolis 4345N, or Quantum Fireball 540S, or IBM DORS32160 successfully on a NeXT hardware? If disktab exist, where to get them? How shall I go about doing this? Can I just put the HD in the diskless slab and the system will format it? (like the Mac), or I need to put it in a separate external case and do it on the Cube? 2. Now, if I ever get pass (1), how do I get NS3.3 or OS4.2 onto that Turbo Color?? BuildDisk from the Cube (via external case)? Or something else? I got OS4.2 CD, has access to a NEC 8X CD-ROM drive and also Apple 600e CD drive. is there any pdf, ps or web page containing these info? Pls help. Many thanks in advance, merry christmas and happy new year to everyone. Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNJnGSUfR/0EnrrDnEQLAAgCggpVa/brjZ7fhdQMsF6dHqjtjtBEAn1WR 7VvDAxB4BC4SEa80v+gmMn1t =OGu2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: boot from CD for restore Date: 18 Dec 1997 09:25:30 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <67aq6a$65@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <882388446.850788353@dejanews.com> <679ck2$o81$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) wrote: >In <882388446.850788353@dejanews.com> Louis.Eagle@tek.com wrote: > >> restore requires a writeable /tmp so I try to mount a floppy on /tmp with >> >> mount -n /dev/fd0a /tmp >> >> but mount fails with an error about /private/tmp being a read only file >> system. I assume this is because mount follows the /tmp -> /private/tmp >> link and the CDROM is mounted read only. (I can mount the floppy on /mnt >> with no problem) > >I think someone (Garance?) mentioned awhile back that it was not possible to >mount /tmp on the 3.3 CD-ROM. > <<<snip>>> I tried exactly the same thing two weeks ago on the same system. It worked without problems. Maybe I used mount -n /dev/fd0b /tmp ^ Try a mount -o remount / this helped me some years ago with NS3.0, when the system claimed to be read only.. greets Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: *punisher@enterprise.umecit.maine.edu* (Punisher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: POP3 Server for Rhapsody/OpenStep Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 13:16:38 -0500 Organization: Thought Police Message-ID: <*punisher-1312971316390001@async14.ts-b-caps1.caps.maine.edu> I'm running Rhapsody DR1 (BSD 4.4) on a Power Macintosh 8500/150. I have SMTP activated using the sendmail command, but have been unable to enable POP3 for users of the system. I cannon find the popd command in this build. Everything seems complete with this exception. I even got the Apache web server up and running without a hitch. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, The Punisher By sending unsolicited email to this address, you aggree to pay the owner of the account $1000 per incident, $25000 for each subsequent incident.
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Linux & NeXT Network Date: 13 Dec 1997 18:00:46 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <66uige$g2e$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <65nsmu$2ev$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> <65qfks$7vr$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <66sllv$kja$1@news.duke.edu> Subir Grewal (sg18@acpub.duke.edu) wrote: : I run my NeXT and a Digital Unix box in great harmony together. There : are a number of basic things I had to do to make sure things run as I : wanted them to. : : 1. First I picked a block of IP#s to use, I chose 127.1.1.x because it : seemed convenient. Very bad and illegal choice. There are ranges set aside explicitely for internal networks. : You can always use 10.x.x.x (the old Arpanet network : 10, because it is unassigned and is supposed to stay that way. Yes, this is one of these. 192.168.a.b will be another family (C class). : 2. I set up routed on both machines Sounds like a gross overkill with two (or three, or four) machines on a common piece of a cable. Static routing will work equally well. Also synchronizing /etc/hosts tables (on NeXT this goes into Netinfo) does not sound like a very difficult taks here, so you really do not need to run bind. Then your /etc/resolv.conf can simply point to nameserver(s) for your ISP and everything is happy without special fiddling. An example of an output of 'netstat -nr' from NeXT working on a similar network with a ppp connection active (IP numbers substituted to protect innocents :-). # netstat -nr Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 408 lo0 xxx.yyy.zz.ww xxx.yyy.zz.vv UH 2 5241 ppp0 default xxx.yyy.zz.ww UG 0 1 ppp0 192.168.172 192.168.172.1 U 6 4015 en0 "192.168.172.1" is an IP number on the NeXT ethernet interface (internal network). Depending on a phase of a moon there are between one and three other computers connected "internally" with this NeXT. The only problem is that sometimes automounter on NeXT fails to notice that some other machine is gone and refuses to timeout. A sure-fire solution is to reboot. Nasty but it works. :-) Or you may not use NFS. --mj
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: boot from CD for restore Date: 17 Dec 1997 20:27:46 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <679ck2$o81$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <882388446.850788353@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Louis.Eagle@tek.com In <882388446.850788353@dejanews.com> Louis.Eagle@tek.com wrote: > restore requires a writeable /tmp so I try to mount a floppy on /tmp with > > mount -n /dev/fd0a /tmp > > but mount fails with an error about /private/tmp being a read only file > system. I assume this is because mount follows the /tmp -> /private/tmp > link and the CDROM is mounted read only. (I can mount the floppy on /mnt > with no problem) I think someone (Garance?) mentioned awhile back that it was not possible to mount /tmp on the 3.3 CD-ROM. Yes this was a very bad thing. I am not sure what there is to do about it, if anything. > Please reply directly to Louis.Eagle@tek.com and not to this newsgroup Why not both? TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Forgot root password Date: 18 Dec 1997 11:49:03 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <67b2jf$3ll@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <3498734A.167EB0E7@oba.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark Stankus <mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu> wrote: >I have an old next computer (black 25 or 33 MHz). I moved >and forgot the root password. I called 1-800-try-next and they >told me to try nextanswers, but I could not find the >appropriate article. Could someone point me in the right >direction? > > By the way, this is my computer and I am a Professor, not >a student. > >Mark Stankus >mstankus@calpoly.edu >(Professor) I don't know where my previous posting got to, but here it is again. From the manuals ---snip--- Lost root Password The root password is essential to system security and should always be safeguarded. Unfortunately, anything can be lost, and a password is no exception. To assign a new root password when you're unable to log in as root, follow these procedures: 1. Turn the computer off and then on, using the Power key. 2. During the boot process, immediately after the Testing System message is replaced by the Loading from disk message, hold down the Command bar and press the ~ key (without pressing Shift). On keyboards with two Command keys, hold down the right Command key and press the ~ key. This displays the ROM monitor window. Warning: If a hardware password has been set, you must supply this password before you can boot the computer. If you don't supply the hardware password, you'll be unable to complete the remainder of this procedure. (For more information on the hardware password, see The ROM Monitor in Chapter 9.) 3. Start up the machine in single-user mode by entering one of the following commands at the ROM monitor prompt: bsd -s (To boot from the hard disk) bfd -s (To boot from the internal floppy disk) bod -s (To boot from the optical disk) ben -s (To boot from the Ethernet) The system starts up, displaying a series of messages. When startup is complete, you see the single user prompt #. 4. At the single user prompt, start up the system services by entering the following command: sh /etc/rc & You see a series of messages appear on the screen as the rc shell script executes. During this process, NetInfo is started. You won't see a shell prompt after these messages unless you press Return. 5. Set the root password. Enter: passwd root You're prompted twice for the new password. 6. Turn the system off and then on again. After the system boots, you can resume normal operation with the new root password. Warning: Don't try to continue the boot into multiuser mode. If you do, you'll start duplicate system services, which will cause a number of problems. You must halt the system and reboot. ---snip--- -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: boom@sonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: dump/restore help Date: 18 Dec 1997 13:55:15 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <67ba03$ld1$1@news2.digex.net> Summary: dump Keywords: dump i am trying to get a multi-volume backup onto tape going. the tape device works great when using gnutar, but i just cannot coax dump into doing anything productive -- maybe it was something i said... can someone help me with this: - gnutar will not let me 'append' to an existing archive. i need to because i am backing up several machines onto one multi-volume archive. - dump always says that the tape is not ready (it is) or just that there is no LABEL on the tape (???). does someone have syntax that works? is there maybe a book on "unix tape backups for dodos" ? thanks in advance for any/all help. cheers erik scheirer sonYx, Inc.
From: "Ariel Jimenez" <ariel@tricom.com.do> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NextStep Training Date: 18 Dec 1997 19:42:31 GMT Organization: TRICOM - Dominican Republic Message-ID: <01bd0c17$f511af80$370116ac@ariel-jimenez.tricom.net> I want any information you can give me on a training on NextStep System Administration. I'm really interested. thanks Ariel Jimenez ariel@tricom.com.do
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PROXY SERVER FOR NS OR OS?? Date: 18 Dec 1997 21:09:50 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <67c3eu$ojj$3@brie.direct.ca> References: <66d8sm$ld8$1@brie.direct.ca> <66au44$ahk$1@brie.direct.ca> <65lnpg$2te$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> <669sqj$l0e$1@news2.digex.net> <66c1s0$i7s$1@news2.digex.net> <66hdpc$l5i$1@news2.digex.net> boom@sonyx.com wrote: > >nono, not missing anything -- i was just speaking in terms of a more flexible solution, which is of course to provide a gateway with IP masquesading (or whatever its called this week :) -- sorry if i was mixing the subjects! > >but you are right for the proxy server thingy. we are in the throes of getting a gateway machine going, so that all packets get routed. funny thing is, you can't use NeXT/OpenStep for that at all, so we went out and got freeBSD and are putting it on a 486. very disappointing not to be able to use the beauty of NS/OS for that... > >unless, that is, you know of something i don't -- i which case i would be extremely grateful to find out that we could use NS/OS for a gateway! > >cheers >erik Now that I've had time to think about it. As I recall, some body did get a masquerading deamon working on NextStep and/or OpenStep. Search http://www.dejanews.com/ for it and NextStep. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: processes becoming "Uninterruptible" (3.2/Black) Message-ID: <ELE6H9.KHs@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <677m9g$kpn23@biko.cc.rochester.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:46:20 GMT In article <677m9g$kpn23@biko.cc.rochester.edu> gtf[@]cirp.org (Geoffrey T. Falk) writes: > It seems I am having a lot of problems with my system recently. No idea > what is causing this. Some server processes keep getting stuck in "U" > (uninterruptible) state according to "ps". When this happens, I cannot > kill the process even with "kill -9", I have to do an ungraceful > restart, forcing an fsck. > > From "ps -augwwx": > > www 5030 0.0 1.4 1.78M 456K co U 5:08 httpd > > The following output lines from "lsof" may offer a clue about this > process: > > httpd-1.2 5030 www 6u inet 0x1014fae0 0t0 TCP *:http > httpd-1.2 5030 www 7u inet 0t41527 TCP no protocol control block > > What is a "protocol control block" and how can I ensure that processes > don't lose theirs? (3.2/Mach/Black). > Some low level drivers and kernel services are running as uninteruptible code. Unfortunately they are not always fully tested to be fail safe in any case (hard task anyway). Thus, there are some cases in which they get stuck. Bad luck, if you can't find the reason only a 'halt' can help. The serial line driver is known to be such a piece of code. If you shut down a serial line device while a process still has it open... Possibly you have such a problem in conjunction with SLIP or PPP? -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: boot from CD for restore Message-ID: <ELE510.KCn@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <882388446.850788353@dejanews.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:14:55 GMT In article <882388446.850788353@dejanews.com> Louis.Eagle@tek.com writes: Hello, > > I am trying to restore to what was/will be my systems (black > slab) only harddisk. So, I boot from the 3.3 install floppy & CDROM > with: > > bfd -s > > OK so far... > > restore requires a writeable /tmp so I try to mount a floppy on > /tmp with > > mount -n /dev/fd0a /tmp > > but mount fails with an error about /private/tmp being a read > only file system. I assume this is because mount follows the /tmp > -> /private/tmp link and the CDROM is mounted read only. (I can > mount the floppy on /mnt with no problem) > > I tried remounting the CDROM read-write, but was chastised for > an illegal remount. > > What am I missing? > Your at the completly wrong wedding party, IMHO! There is no need for 'restore'ing from CD/ROM for building a boot disk. You simply insert the CD and floppy of the NEXTSTEP distribution and type 'bfd' at the boot monitor prompt. The floppy will then load a boot sector for CD/ROM, load the boot sector from the CD which in turn will start the NEXTSTEP initial load program and there we go. And in case a otherwise intact hard drive lost its boot sector or kernel image, or whatever might hinder even a standalone boot, you can try to use the '- roodev=<whatever>' option to the boot command. This will take the kernel from the specified boot device but mount the specified root device afterwards. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: booting headless NeXT machines Message-ID: <ELE59z.KEr@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <6792t6$a86$1@news2.digex.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:20:23 GMT In article <6792t6$a86$1@news2.digex.net> boom@sonyx.com writes: > hi all - > can anyone tell me if it is possible to boot any of the NeXT black hardware w/out monitor, keyb., mouse, sound box ? i know headless is ok... > Yes, if you provide the most basic keyboard function, namely the power key and if you set the boot options in a way you will never be inercepted for any input. You will have to power down by remote command, but that should be no problem (man-pages!). The recipe for soldering a fake monitor plug in a way it mimics a power key is in the FAQ on Peanuts, AFAIK. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Forgot root password Message-ID: <ELE62C.KH1@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3498734A.167EB0E7@oba.ucsd.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:37:22 GMT In article <3498734A.167EB0E7@oba.ucsd.edu> Mark Stankus <mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu> writes: > I have an old next computer (black 25 or 33 MHz). I moved > and forgot the root password. I called 1-800-try-next and they > told me to try nextanswers, but I could not find the > appropriate article. Could someone point me in the right > direction? > Boot into single user mode ('bsd -s' at the boot monitor prompt; you get there by pressing Right-'Command' and '~' simultaneously). When the system gives you a '#' (the single user prompt) type 'sh /etc/rc &' (ie. start the system initialization sequence) and wait for the prompt to appear again and the rattling noise from the disk drive to disappear (two or three minutes at most). Then type 'passwd root'. You will be prompted for the root password twice. After that shut down the system and reboot. > By the way, this is my computer and I am a Professor, not > a student. > Don't worry. You normally don't expect a math professor to know about such earthly procedures ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Services Menu Message-ID: <ELE701.KK5@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <679ghb$o9s$1@news3.tufts.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:57:34 GMT In article <679ghb$o9s$1@news3.tufts.edu> dhassell@diamond.tufts.edu (David Hassell) writes: > I recently installed a piece of shareware that told me it had > expired as soon as I ran it. No big deal, I just deleted it. > I suppose at that time, it placed a menu list within my Services > menu, which I can disable in the preferences, but can't seem to > permanently delete. Is the only way to do this to manually edit > the .Next/services/.applist file, or is there a nicer interface > I can use to manage this menu? Thanks! > If it came as a package you have got a bill of materials in /NextLibrary/Receipts. Identify the right file and double click on it... If not it can become a bit laborious. There are three places where services go (if they are just meant to be services and nothing but services), namely /NextLibrary/Services, /LocalLibrary/Services, and ~/Library/Services. You will have to delete the code from there and rebuild services by actualizing FileViewer (menu entry!) or by relogin. -- David Hassell dhassell@emerald.tufts.edu Tufts Varsity Crew @diamond.tufts.edu Residential Computer Consultant, @eecs.tufts.edu Area Supervisor http://www.tufts.edu/~dhassell/crew.html -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Sean Youtsey <syoutsey@ecst.csuchico.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NT Compatability Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:29:44 -0800 Organization: California State University, Chico Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.971218142614.6090B-100000@guzzler.ecst.csuchico.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This might be a stupid question, but I was wondering how compatible NT and Next are. Can Next applications somehow be run under NT, and NT apps be run under Next? Need information on Next and NT (v. 4.0). Thanks in advance, Sean P.S. Please include the address syoutsey@ecst.csuchico.edu in your reply
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Raul da Silva <raul_da_silva@novell.com> Subject: Re: Forgot root password Sender: news@ukb.novell.com Message-ID: <349909D2.60E2@novell.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:32:34 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <3498734A.167EB0E7@oba.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Novell, Inc. Mark Stankus wrote: > > I have an old next computer (black 25 or 33 MHz). I moved > and forgot the root password. I called 1-800-try-next and they > told me to try nextanswers, but I could not find the > appropriate article. Could someone point me in the right > direction? > > By the way, this is my computer and I am a Professor, not > a student. > > Mark Stankus > mstankus@calpoly.edu > (Professor) NextAnswers article number 2152 outlines the procedure for recovering a lost root password. Direct URL: http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2152.htmld/2152.html Raul da Silva rdasilva@acm.org raul_da_silva@novell.com
From: Chris Roehrig <croehrig@House.ORG> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 3.3 generic boot floppy build instructions Date: 19 Dec 1997 00:16:06 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <67cec6$993$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <678j62$qgp$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Here's my script to make a set of Fix-it floppies for NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.3. ------------------------------ cut here ------------------------------------ #!/bin/sh # # make_fixit_floppies # # NEXTSTEP Fix-it Floppy Maker # -- Chris Roehrig <_croehrig@House.ORG_> Oct 97 # # This script builds a set of 3 floppies to boot a usable # NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.3 system in single-user without a CD-ROM. # It is intended for use when you've hosed your hard disk # and can't boot from it. This gives you a barely operational # system to fsck and mount your hard disk and fix it. # # Disk 1: 3.3_Boot # Contains the kernel and an Instance table that is # tailored for your system. Tailor the DRIVERS= line below # to include whatever SCSI driver you might have, or anything # else that's weird. The script copies your drivers including # their curren Instance0.table configurations, so the drivers will # automatically be configured for your system. (Beware if # you're planning on using it on another system, though.) # # Disk 2: 3.3_Drivers # Contains the drivers mentioned above. # # Disk 3: 3.3_Root # Contains the root filesystem. Under 3.3, you can just # barely build a floppy that allows you to boot single user # and mount a disk. Only the shell /bin/sh and 4 commands # fit: ls, sync, mount and fsck. # # Booting is pretty self-explanatory; the system will prompt to # change disks as needed, and it will come up in single-user mode. # Once you're up and running, you basically want to do something like # fsck /dev/rhd0a # mount -n /dev/hd0a /hd # PATH=/hd/etc:/hd/usr/etc:/hd/usr/ucb: # /hd/bin:/hd/usr/bin:/hd/usr/local/bin # and hopefully then you will be able to use your usual commands # to fix whatever you broke :-) # # Change this to match the Boot Drivers line in your # /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table DRIVERS="Floppy PS2Keyboard EISABus PCIBus Intel824X0 EIDE SYM53c8" # labels for the floppies LABEL=3.3 MYHOST=House.ORG MOUNT=/CJRBootFloppy # These are the files. They barely fit. ETCFILES="usr/etc/mach_init usr/etc/init usr/etc/fsck usr/etc/mount" BINFILES="bin/sh bin/ls bin/sync" # This shared library almost makes this impossible. # It strips just enough to fit something useful. SHLIB=usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib # where your floppy is DEV=/dev/fd0a RAWDEV=/dev/rfd0a if [ "`whoami`" != "root" ]; then echo $0 must be run as root. exit 1 fi echo -n "Format floppies beforehand [y/n]? " read ans case "$ans" in n*) FORMAT=n ;; *) FORMAT=y ;; esac echo -n "Insert floppy #1 labeled ${LABEL}_Boot " echo -n "and press return (n to skip): " read ans if [ "$ans" != n ]; then if [ ${FORMAT} = y ]; then /usr/etc/disk -i -l ${LABEL}_Boot -h ${MYHOST} ${RAWDEV} else /usr/etc/mkfs ${RAWDEV} 1344 9 2 4096 1024 32 0 5 8192 s fi if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then echo "build disk failed" exit 1 fi mount ${DEV} ${MOUNT} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then exit 1 fi rm -f ${MOUNT}/lost+found echo "Installing your system's configuration table..." mkdirs ${MOUNT}/private/Drivers/i386/System.config cat > ${MOUNT}/private/Drivers/i386/System.config/Instance0.table << EOF "Version" = "3.30"; "Boot Drivers" = "${DRIVERS}" "Active Drivers" = ""; "Kernel" = "mach_kernel"; "Kernel Flags" = "rootdev=fd0a"; "Boot Graphics" = "No"; "Install Mode" = "No"; "Ask For Drivers" = "No"; "Language" = "English"; "Prompt For Driver Disk" = "Yes"; "APM" = "Yes"; EOF mkdirs ${MOUNT}/usr/standalone/i386 for f in sarld BootHelp.txt Language.table English.lproj ; do cp -rp /usr/standalone/i386/$f ${MOUNT}/usr/standalone/i386 done echo "Copying mach_kernel..." cp -p /mach_kernel ${MOUNT} umount ${MOUNT} echo "Boot floppy completed." fi echo -n "Insert floppy #2 labeled ${LABEL}_Drivers " echo -n "and press return (n to skip): " read ans if [ "$ans" != n ]; then if [ ${FORMAT} = y ]; then /usr/etc/disk -i -l ${LABEL}_Drivers -h ${MYHOST} ${RAWDEV} else /usr/etc/mkfs ${RAWDEV} 1344 9 2 4096 1024 32 0 5 8192 s fi if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then echo "build disk failed" exit 1 fi mount ${DEV} ${MOUNT} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then exit 1 fi rm -f ${MOUNT}/lost+found mkdirs ${MOUNT}/private/Drivers/i386 echo "Copying drivers..." for d in ${DRIVERS} ; do echo " $d" cp -rp /private/Drivers/i386/$d.config ${MOUNT}/private/Drivers/i386 done umount ${MOUNT} echo "Drivers floppy completed." fi echo -n "Insert floppy #3 labeled ${LABEL}_Root " echo -n "and press return (n to skip): " read ans if [ "$ans" != n ]; then if [ $FORMAT = "y" ]; then /usr/etc/disk -i -l ${LABEL}_Root -h ${MYHOST} ${RAWDEV} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then echo "build disk failed" exit 1 fi fi echo "rebuilding the filesystem with better space optimization..." echo /usr/etc/mkfs ${RAWDEV} 1344 9 2 4096 1024 32 0 5 8192 s /usr/etc/mkfs ${RAWDEV} 1344 9 2 4096 1024 32 0 5 8192 s if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then echo "build disk failed" exit 1 fi mount ${DEV} ${MOUNT} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then exit 1 fi rm -f ${MOUNT}/lost+found echo "Making directories" cd ${MOUNT} mkdirs bin tmp dev etc usr/etc usr/shlib echo "Installing stripped shared library" # save old one just in case... (strip's -o option is undocumented) cp -p /${SHLIB} /tmp cd ${MOUNT} strip /${SHLIB} -o ${SHLIB} echo "Building minimal set of devices" cd ${MOUNT}/dev # Need to do this cause MAKEDEV generates way too many useless inodes # Garnered this from the output of MAKEDEV run with 'set -x' mknod console c 0 0 chmod 622 console mknod mem c 3 0 chmod 640 mem chgrp kmem mem mknod kmem c 3 1 chmod 640 kmem chgrp kmem kmem mknod null c 3 2 chmod 666 null mknod tty c 2 0 chmod 666 tty mknod klog c 6 0 chmod 600 klog mknod hd0a b 3 0 mknod hd0b b 3 1 mknod hd1a b 3 8 mknod hd1b b 3 9 mknod rhd0a c 15 0 mknod rhd0b c 15 1 mknod rhd1a c 15 8 mknod rhd1b c 15 9 chgrp operator hd0a hd0b hd1a hd1b rhd0a rhd0b rhd1a rhd1b chmod 640 hd0a hd0b hd1a hd1b rhd0a rhd0b rhd1a rhd1b mknod sdc0 c 14 128 chmod 644 sdc0 mknod sd0a b 6 0 mknod sd0b b 6 1 mknod sd1a b 6 8 mknod sd1b b 6 9 mknod rsd0a c 14 0 mknod rsd0b c 14 1 mknod rsd1a c 14 8 mknod rsd1b c 14 9 chgrp operator sd0a sd0b sd1a sd1b rsd0a rsd0b rsd1a rsd1b chmod 640 sd0a sd0b sd1a sd1b rsd0a rsd0b rsd1a rsd1b mknod fdc0 c 41 64 chmod 644 fdc0 mknod fd0a b 1 0 mknod rfd0a c 41 0 chgrp operator fd0a rfd0a chmod 660 fd0a rfd0a echo "Installing files" cd ${MOUNT} for f in ${ETCFILES} ${BINFILES} ; do echo " /$f" cp -p /$f $f done echo " /.profile" cat >.profile <<EOF HOME=/ PATH=/usr/etc:/bin: export HOME PATH EOF echo " /etc/fstab" echo "/dev/fd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1" >etc/fstab echo " /etc/mtab" echo '/dev/fd0a "/" 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1' >etc/mtab cd ${MOUNT} echo "Making symlinks..." ln -s ../usr/etc/mach_init etc/mach_init ln -s ../usr/etc/init etc/init echo "Disk usage..." df ${MOUNT} cd / umount ${MOUNT} echo "Root filesystem floppy completed." fi echo "Done" ------------------------------ cut here ------------------------------------ -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: loginwindow Message-ID: <cdoutyELEyw9.CG5@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom References: <673dvm$s17$1@info.service.rug.nl> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 02:00:09 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom13.netcom.com In article <673dvm$s17$1@info.service.rug.nl>, Emile de Kleine <e.de.kleine@med.rug.nl> wrote: >Hi, > >I do not want the moving next icon on my loginwindow. Instead I would like my >screen to become black (then my monitor will power-down). In Preferences.app >it seems possible (for root) to choose a costum screensaver. > >How do I do this? Can I use BackSpace.app for example? I'm working with >OpenStep 4.0 for Mach. There is a Backspace compatible loginwindow screensaver availble on the archives. Sorry, but I don't remember the package name. It was something pretty obvious, like SpaceSaver. It comes with complete installation instructions which you should read. There are a few incompatabilities with some BS modules. Also, loginwindow gets really mad if it can't find the login window graphic or start the screen saver. You better have another machine availbe on the network if that happens. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <67d5fn$9dc@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <67d5fn$9dc@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> Date: 19 Dec 1997 06:55:33 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.67d5fn$9dc@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> Sender: <pfarson@ix.netcom.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: gvandyk@icon.co.za Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Printing to a NT Printer Date: 19 Dec 1997 07:27:01 GMT Organization: Technologies Domain Message-ID: <67d7k5$s9c$1@hermes.is.co.za> I am sure this question has been answered before but I can't find any documentation on the topic. I want to print to a printer that is connected to a NT box on our network from Openstep4.2. What do I need to setup on the NT box to enable this and what do I need to do on the Openstep box? Any help will be appreciated. -- Regards, Gerrit van Dyk email: gvandyk@icon.co.za (NeXTMail welcome) Technologies Domain (Pty) Ltd The OBJECT is the ADVANTAGE
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NT Compatability Date: 19 Dec 1997 12:07:03 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <67do17$s2k$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <Pine.HPP.3.95.971218142614.6090B-100000@guzzler.ecst.csuchico.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: syoutsey@ecst.csuchico.edu In <Pine.HPP.3.95.971218142614.6090B-100000@guzzler.ecst.csuchico.edu> Sean Youtsey wrote: > This might be a stupid question, but I was wondering how compatible NT and > Next are. Can Next applications somehow be run under NT, and NT apps be > run under Next? Need information on Next and NT (v. 4.0). Essentially, no --- you can't run an application compiled for Next/OpenStep/Rhapsody directly under NT/Win95. However, if you program to the OpenStep api, then you will be able to compile an application on either OpenStep or NT --- exactly the same source code: all you need are the OpenStep compilation tools for the appropriate platform. Nb. although you can't compile OpenStep apps on Win95, you can run them there. Apple is working on a new version of this system, code named "Yellow Box", which will add Apple's new OS, Rhapsody, and MacOS[*] to the mixture. It's also potentially possible to deploy an application with both OpenStep and NT executables and nibs inside the app wrapper --- although it's not clear how you could also add a MacOS YB version or have OpenStep and Rhapsody versions co-existing in the same app wrapper. This might sound like a fairly strange thing to do, but it will be incredibly handy on big sites with heterogeneous networks: you only need maintain one central server with one copy of each app on it. The final trick to mention is that all OpenStep apps have a remote display capability built in, in a similar fashion to the way that X Windows apps does. It is quite possible to run an application on an OpenStep machine and have it display it's GUI on an NT desktop, or vice-versa. Cheers, Matthew [*] Well, almost. MacOS YB will have what's claimed to be "90% compatibility" with other Yellow Box systems. [Posted and Mailed]
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: dump/restore help Date: 19 Dec 1997 12:18:14 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <67dom6$s2k$2@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <67ba03$ld1$1@news2.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: boom@sonyx.com In <67ba03$ld1$1@news2.digex.net> boom@sonyx.com wrote: > - gnutar will not let me 'append' to an existing archive. i need to because > i am backing up several machines onto one multi-volume archive. In general in this sort of situation, when writing tar archives to tape, the strategy is to write a sequence of tar archives onto the tape. So long as you use the non-rewinding tape device, you can use the `mt' command to position the tape at the end of the last file on the tape before you start writing a new tar archive. Eg. suppose you have separate / and /LocalApps partitions on your machine and you want to back them up separately. You could do this: setenv TAPE /dev/nrst0 gnutar --one-file-system --create / gnutar --one-file-system --create /LocalApps mt rewoffl Then at a later date to append another backup of those file systems to the tape without overwriting the first ones: setenv TAPE /dev/nrst0 mt fsf 2 gnutar --one-file-system --create / gnutar --one-file-system --create /LocalApps mt rewoffl Matthew [Posted and mailed]
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Newbie to NeXT hardware needs help Date: 19 Dec 1997 12:50:18 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <67dqia$s2k$3@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <3498E586.C1D46FBA@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: chong_tim@bah.com In <3498E586.C1D46FBA@bah.com> Chong Tim wrote: > 1. As I understand, NeXT hardware has difficulties with HD more that 1G? It > needs something like disktab? Has anyone even used a Micropolis 4345N, or > Quantum Fireball 540S, or IBM DORS32160 successfully on a NeXT hardware? If > disktab exist, where to get them? Next machines have no problems dealing with disks upto 4Gb, and if you can write an appropriate disktab file they can in theory work with a 14Gb drive. The problem is this: each partition on a Next machine is limited to a maximum size of 2Gb. The default generic disktab for a SCSI disk will create one partition on a disk upto 1Gb in size, and there after will create two equally sized partitions up to a max size of 2Gb each -- hence the 4Gb total. There are two ways to change this behaviour. i) Easy: use the command line `disk' program to initialise the disk. eg, this command will initialize /dev/sd0 as a bootable disk with the first partition 2Gb in size, and the second filling up the rest of the space. See the disk(8) man page for an explanation of what all the options do: disk -h `hostname` -l Disk -i -b -p 2097152 /dev/rsd0a [you need to be booted into Next/OpenStep to do this, obviously: either boot single user from the install floppy, or temporarily connect the drive to another Next machine.] The hard way is to build a disktab file appropriate for your drive: you have to do this for drives over 4Gb or if you want to put more than two partitions onto a disk. > How shall I go about doing this? Can I just put the HD in the diskless slab > and the system will format it? (like the Mac), or I need to put it in a > separate external case and do it on the Cube? It depends on what you need to do w.r.t. partitioning. If the default scheme is suitable then, yes, you can put the disk directly into your slab. You'll need to attach a SCSI CD Rom to the slab, and probably you'll need to boot from the m68k install floppy (Check NextAnswers on how to build one of these if you don't have one). Other than that the installation is pretty much routine. For more ambitious partitioning schemes, connecting the disk to a second next machine and installing the system there is a good idea. You can use BuildDisk.app to initialize the drive, although you do get better control using the command line tools IMHO. It's also possible to create a net install server on one of your machines and to configure the disk and load the OS over the ethernet: take a look at /NextAdmin/NetInstallHelper.app. However, this is probably only worth doing if you have a large number of machines to install. Cheers, Matthew [Posted and mailed]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Newbie to NeXT hardware needs help Message-ID: <ELFLM7.3LB@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3498E586.C1D46FBA@bah.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:10:55 GMT In article <3498E586.C1D46FBA@bah.com> Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> writes: > Hi all, > > I got a few questions here, but first of all, let me tell you > guys some info: me just purchased a Turbo Color Station system > with no HD (thus a newbie to the NeXT hardware; the machine is > on its way to me), currently I have one Intel P166 running OS4.2 > Mach, and a pal has a NeXTCube Turbo with NS3.3. > > 1. As I understand, NeXT hardware has difficulties with HD more that > 1G? Wrong! It is a limit of 4 GB on that automatic mechanisms begin to fail. > It needs something like disktab? Has anyone even used a Micropolis > 4345N, or Quantum Fireball 540S, or IBM DORS32160 successfully on > a NeXT hardware? If disktab exist, where to get them? > It does not NEED it, it has got one! Just that it has no usable entries in it when shipped. And you normally don't get them, you create them (see online SysAdmin manual, NeXTanswers, and FAQ on Peanuts). > How shall I go about doing this? Can I just put the HD in the > diskless slab and the system will format it? (like the Mac), or I > need to put it in a separate external case and do it on the Cube? > You need to set the drive to asynch in SCSI-1 mode (extended command set disabled), put termination on it and set the SCSI-ID to 1. Then drop it in the slab, attach a CD/ROM drive, insert the distribution CD and boot floppy, switch on and type 'bfd' at the boot prompt... > 2. Now, if I ever get pass (1), how do I get NS3.3 or OS4.2 onto that > Turbo Color?? BuildDisk from the Cube (via external case)? Or > something else? I got OS4.2 CD, has access to a NEC 8X CD-ROM drive > and also Apple 600e CD drive. > see above > is there any pdf, ps or web page containing these info? Pls help. > FAQ and Usenet archive on Peanuts, NeXTanswers, these newsgroups, and last but not least, the printed user manual that came with the black hardware and its online cousin in /NextLibrary/Bookshelves. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: MIME mail decoding on older Nextstep? Date: 16 Dec 1997 14:37:52 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <6763o0$gda$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> I get an e-mail message on a Nextstep 3.0 machine that after the main message has the following (I present to you the top snip from it). Is there any way one can recover the contents of this MIME file? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks everybody, -jm ------------------begin of sniplet----------------------------- --Message-Boundary-16163 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: Information about this message. This message contains a file prepared for transmission using the MIME BASE64 transfer encoding scheme. If you are using Pegasus Mail or another MIME-compliant system, you should be able to extract it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for help. ---- File information ----------- File: tp7min97.doc Date: 8 Dec 1997, 11:24 Size: 99840 bytes. Type: Unknown --Message-Boundary-16163 Content-type: Application/Octet-stream; name=tp7min97.doc; type=Unknown Content-transfer-encoding: BASE64 0M8R4KGxGuEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOwADAP7/CQAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACAAAAAQAAAAAA AAAAEAAAAgAAAAEAAAD+////AAAAAAAAAABkAAAA//////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////// --------------- end of sniplet ------------------- --john m. ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2189 or -2165 | | Naval Research Laboratory | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Code 6380 |e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil| | Washington DC 20375-5000 | michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil|
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: MIME mail decoding on older Nextstep? Date: 19 Dec 1997 21:43:39 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <67epqb$rt9$7@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <6763o0$gda$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> [ ...newsgroups trimmed... ] yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) wrote: > I get an e-mail message on a Nextstep 3.0 machine that after the main > message has the following (I present to you the top snip from it). Is > there any way one can recover the contents of this MIME file? > Any help will be greatly appreciated. You could upgrade to NEXTSTEP 3.3 or later, which should understand the Base-64 encoding. Alternatively, take a look at this for a base-64 decoder: <URL=http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/~fp/uudeview/welcome.html> -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: nichol@netaxs.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: setting up TCP/IP btwn blue box & rhapsody... Date: 19 Dec 97 19:28:32 -0500 Organization: newsread.com ISP News Reading Service Message-ID: <B0C07B86-E9F2@207.8.209.14> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nntp://netnews.netaxs.com/comp.sys.next.sysadmin <SMALLER>hello all: i've just received my copy of blue box for rhapsody and it seems to work very well. applications seem to have a bit of overhead when starting up, but then run normally just like the "native" macOS. my question is simple, and yet may be very deep. i'm running rhapsody at home on my powermac, with no ethernet and only PPP modem access for internet. so i haven't configured NetInfo for any sort of networked operation. however, what i would like to do with it is set up a TCP/IP connection between the blue box and rhapsody so that, with both running i can FTP files back and forth. ideally, i would like to set up the blue box to run PPP, however i don't think that is possible (whether or not it is recommened). if anyone has any information about how to set either of these options up, i would greatly appreciate it. specifically, i'm looking for how to configure NetInfo (on rhapsody) and the TCP/IP control panel (within BlueBox) so that they can talk with each other. thanks very much in advace, scott nichol --------------------------------------------------- If we increase the size of the penguin until it is the same height as a man and then compare the relative brain size, we know find that the penguin's brain is still smaller. But, and this is the point, it is larger than it WAS! --------------------------------------------------- mailto:nichol@netaxs.com (Scott Nichol) http://www.netaxs.com/~nichol </SMALLER>
From: sal@panix3.panix.com (Salvatore Denaro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: setting up TCP/IP btwn blue box & rhapsody... Date: 20 Dec 1997 01:56:27 GMT Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <slrn69m9ec.dm0.sal@panix3.panix.com> References: <B0C07B86-E9F2@207.8.209.14> On 19 Dec 97 19:28:32 -0500, nichol@netaxs.com <nichol@netaxs.com> wrote: >i've just received my copy of blue box for rhapsody and it seems to You just got it and didn't even blink before violating your NDA. :( Please do not break your NDA here! Any little problem you report here will be blown way out of preportion. It is not a product yet, so you can't expect it to be perfect. -- sal@panix.com Salvatore Denaro Yes, I use PGP.
From: Stephen Sellars <stephen.sellars@rssc.slg.eds.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Logon to...NeXT Cube Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:04:43 -0500 Organization: EDS Message-ID: <349AE16A.56E4@rssc.slg.eds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello- apologies in advance from another NeXT newbie...one who has just bought a '90 vintage Cube (formerly a UNC machine --> the Power On key reads "More Beer"!) that apparently was set up on a network. I think it's got OpenStep ver 2.1 on the hard drive, but I'm having trouble getting to the desktop...since it tries to connect to the network, and when I use 'c' to continue in the ROM Monitor, and then NeXT>bsd -s, I just end up at the desktop prompt for a User ID & Password (which of course I don't know). I can get around the UNIX files, but since I'm UNIX illiterate, I don't know how to give myself system admin type rights. Any pointers, or suggested reading would be greatly appreciated! Responses can be reached directly at: stephen.sellars@rssc.slg.eds.com
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Level 0 dump fails to reset Date: 20 Dec 1997 09:31:34 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <67gks6$hsf@papoose.quick.com> References: <6781bi$o3a$2@news.ncal.verio.com> In article <6781bi$o3a$2@news.ncal.verio.com>, Dale Tersey <dale@wcodot.com> wrote: >I am running a NeXTStep 3,3 (Intel) server and I am trying to do >incremental dumps of the file system. Shen I successfully run a >Level 0 dump on two tapes, I should be able to do a Level 3 dump >following. However, on my level 3 dump I get the message >"Last Level 0 dump: The epoch" and the level 3 dump tries to do >all files. > >I tried doing a Level 0 dump to /dev/null to reset the register but >get the same "epoch" message for a subsequent level 3 dump. > >Any insight on how to force the system to see the last level 0 dump >and acknowledge the files that were dumped would be appreciated. The /etc/dumpdates file is a record of the last backups for each partition. dump modifies records in this file whenever it is called with the u flag. If not called with u, no record is kept. I suspect that you forgot to include the u option flag when you made your backup (or did not run the command as root to ensure that this file was writeable). In either case refer to the documentation (dumpdates(5) dump(8)). -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Printing to a NT Printer Message-ID: <ELHKJ4.9uM@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <67d7k5$s9c$1@hermes.is.co.za> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 11:42:39 GMT In article <67d7k5$s9c$1@hermes.is.co.za> gvandyk@icon.co.za writes: > I am sure this question has been answered before but I can't find any > documentation on the topic. > > I want to print to a printer that is connected to a NT box on our > network from Openstep4.2. > > What do I need to setup on the NT box to enable this and what do I > need to do on the Openstep box? > Wrong newsgroup for the first question. Second question is dealt with in the chapter on "Mixed Networks" in the online SysAdmin manual. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: yves (Yves_AKAKPO) Subject: swapdisk : External Disk partion for swap Message-ID: <ELI41B.nu@yves.fdn.fr> Keywords: swap disk Sender: yves@yves.fdn.fr (Yves AKAKPO) Organization: Individual Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 18:43:59 GMT Hi all NS 3.3 and Black slab I ve partitioned my EXTERNAL DISC. I ve mount in file /etc/fstab in directory /User one partition as line /dev/sd1a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2. How can I do to use second partition as swap disk? Thanks in advance for any help Yves
From: "Tom Marchioro" <tlm@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Install NeXTstep 3.3 on Intel Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 14:39:52 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <67hhg4$13ng$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu> Greetings: Here is a "blast from the past." I'm doing some contract work for a company and wanted to verify certain aspects of their software in a variety of different environments, so.... I dugout an old CDROM and tried to load NS3.3 on my Pentium machine, which had been running NT and Linux to this point. The machine has an Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller. I maneuver through the boot process pretty well, getting the OS booted from the floppy, the extra drivers loaded, etc. and then get the message SCSI Controller, cannot get configuration space or something like that, and then further info to the effect that I have no SCSI controller or CDROM, both of which are not true. Am guessing that this particular piece of Adaptec hardware is too "modern" for NS (it's only a 6 month old machine). Can anyone offer a suggestion on how to get NS3.3 loaded onto this hardware? A look at NeXTanswers makes it clear there are newer versions of the drivers, will these work? If so, any tricks on putting them on a floppy so that they can be read at boot? Alternatively, should I try booting the machine off the ethernet? I suspect my 3COM 3C900 will prove equally "modern" to the OS. Thanks in advance for any help. An e-mail reply is preferred if possible. Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Department of Chemistry University of Washington 206-323-9599 http://borg.chem.washington.edu/~tlm
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Get an error while installing Rhapsody -- NDA!?!?! Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:59:34 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <67hpis$d7c@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> References: <01bcfab9$12cc3d80$44cd09c0@machine.cornut.fr> <cam-3011971213130001@tnt01dla033.escape.ca> <65u3bt$qa@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> <65vasb$7jh$1@news.digifix.com> > > As far as comparing Rhapsody to Linux goes, thats not productive. > Apple is a commerical company, and has to protect its product that is > not shipping yet. We've seen how stupid articles in the past (PCWeek, > MacWeek) can take what are obviously transitional issues and make them > appear to be 'Final Release Gospel'. > > On the other hand, public discussions of problems hasn't seemed to hurt Be any. I imagine that all the free testing, bug reports, and fixes that are created by the community are worth any potential bad press they might get. I do sympathize with teh fact that Apple gets really shitty press. However, I suspect that M$ is just about to start getting it's share of "will it survive" press. Have you looked at the stock price plunge. "Experts" are already predicting that if the price hits $128 it will fall to $109 or so. Mitch
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <18578882075626@digifix.com> Date: 21 Dec 1997 04:59:33 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <4893882680420@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <349cb8aa.0@139.134.5.33> Control: cancel <349cb8aa.0@139.134.5.33> Date: 21 Dec 1997 06:46:09 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.349cb8aa.0@139.134.5.33> Sender: chinabob@hotmail.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Install NeXTstep 3.3 on Intel Date: 21 Dec 1997 09:10:02 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <67imda$ou5$2@brie.direct.ca> References: <67hhg4$13ng$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu> "Tom Marchioro" <tlm@u.washington.edu> wrote: > >Greetings: > >Here is a "blast from the past." I'm doing some contract work for a company >and wanted to verify certain aspects of their software in a variety of >different environments, so.... I dugout an old CDROM and tried to load >NS3.3 on my Pentium machine, which had been running NT and Linux to this >point. The machine has an Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller. I maneuver >through the boot process pretty well, getting the OS booted from the floppy, >the extra drivers loaded, etc. and then get the message > >SCSI Controller, cannot get configuration space > >or something like that, and then further info to the effect that I have no >SCSI controller or CDROM, both of which are not true. > >Am guessing that this particular piece of Adaptec hardware is too "modern" >for NS (it's only a 6 month old machine). Can anyone offer a suggestion on >how to get NS3.3 loaded onto this hardware? A look at NeXTanswers makes it >clear there are newer versions of the drivers, will these work? If so, any >tricks on putting them on a floppy so that they can be read at boot? >Alternatively, should I try booting the machine off the ethernet? I suspect >my 3COM 3C900 will prove equally "modern" to the OS. I believe the Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller is well supported by Next/Apple. Get the new driver and search NextAnswers for details about how to set up a disk to hold that drivers and others you may need. Go to www.next.com for NextAnswers. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: "Jim Vancheri" <Jim.Vancheri@mci.com> Subject: Re: Rhapsody Admin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <3495603B.C6A0D37@MacEquation.com> Message-ID: <01bd0af2$4b0f4fe0$2d7020a6@warrntn2.metro.mci.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:46:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:46:43 EST Scott, Go in to UserManager.app and select the ME account and then disable it from the menu. Then log out and you will then have the Rhapsopdy login panel displayed. You can log in as root there. Without the me account disable both NeXT and Rhapsody default to logging you directy in as the me account. Jim Scott Turner <Scott@MacEquation.com> wrote in article <3495603B.C6A0D37@MacEquation.com>... > First of all, I'm a relative newbie when it comes to Unix. So, please > be gentle. If there's a more appropriate group to post to, let me > know. I'm running Rhapsody DR1 for Intel on a cobbled together pentium > machine. > > Here's the question; is there any way to log in as root while using the > Rhapsody GUI? So far, I've had to open a terminal window, log in as > root (su root), and use the command line interface to copy and edit > files in directories where I don't have access from the GUI. > Apparantly, I'm logged in as 'me' for the GUI. For a long time Mac > addict, it's a tough transition. > > Thanks for any help, > > Scott Turner > >
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Viewing incoming data Date: 17 Dec 1997 14:09:19 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <678mef$4kb$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971216230422.6616B-100000@clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gbh@middlemarch.net In <Pine.GSO.3.96.971216230422.6616B-100000@clark.net> gbh@middlemarch.net wrote: > I'm trying to read the log a router sends to my computer. I can specify a > UDP server IP address and port number for the router to send it to. But > once I set it to my IP address, how do I view the log? The default port > number is 514 (syslog). I'd like to see the log in a window as it comes in. You need to find out or set a couple more things in your router config --- what syslog facility does it use, and what log level(s). The syslog facility is probably one of the `LOG_LOCAL0, LOG_LOCAL1, ... LOG_LOCAL7' group (see the syslog(1) man page) and the log level should be LOG_INFO or LOG_NOTICE for run-of-the-mill stuff, escalating up to LOG_EMERG on really bad days... Knowing that, you can then edit the /etc/syslog.conf file to tell your system how to dispose of the log messages it receives. Assuming that your router is logging on the LOG_LOCAL1 facility and you want to see messages at the LOG_NOTICE priority or higher, then add a line like this to syslog.conf: local1.notice /usr/adm/router.log where you *must* use tab characters and only tab characters to separate the two halves of the line --- beware, some editors will "helpfully" convert tabs to an equivalent number of spaces. Now all you need to do is create the log file, and restart the syslog daemon: touch /usr/adm/router.log kill -HUP `cat /etc/syslog.pid` and you're done. This will record all log messages your computer receives on the LOG_LOCAL1 facility into the router.log file. To monitor any changes in the router.log file, just run tail -f router.log in a shell, or grab Spy.app or, if you're on OpenStep, Tails.app from the archives. Cheers, Matthew [Posted and mailed]
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can I use a removeable hard drive with Openstep? Date: 17 Dec 1997 14:20:09 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <678n2p$4kb$2@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <34958d88.0@news.swol.de> <SCOTT.97Dec15201647@slave.doubleu.com> <349bc3b4.165184476@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <34a512e0.251012630@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: cloaked@fornospam.com In <34a512e0.251012630@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> cloaked@fornospam.com wrote: > I don't think this belongs in sysadmin (?) because its not really a > networking question. There's more to sysadmin than just networking. Making your machines boot and run in the way that you want them to is pretty much central to the concept of sysadmining, so I'd say that your posts about removable disks were quite legitimate here. Matthew
From: Stefan Huy <huy@stud.uni-hannover.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Rhapsody Admin Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:16:45 +0100 Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971217151426.7836A-100000@studserv> References: <3495603B.C6A0D37@MacEquation.com> <01bd0af2$4b0f4fe0$2d7020a6@warrntn2.metro.mci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <01bd0af2$4b0f4fe0$2d7020a6@warrntn2.metro.mci.com> On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Jim Vancheri wrote: > Scott, > > Go in to UserManager.app and select the ME account and then disable it from > the menu. Then log out and you will then have the Rhapsopdy login panel > displayed. You can log in as root there. Without the me account disable > both NeXT and Rhapsody default to logging you directy in as the me account. You'll also get the login screen if you assign a password to the me account instead of disabling it. cu -Stefan __Stefan Huy___________________________________________________________ ____ ______ mailto:huy@stud.uni-hannover.de ________ http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~huy _______________________________________________________________________
From: Stefan Huy <huy@stud.uni-hannover.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: newbie Rhapsody DR1 networking question Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:21:25 +0100 Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971217151804.7836B-100000@studserv> References: <34977004.887E2F0A@post.kos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: lamont@kos.net In-Reply-To: <34977004.887E2F0A@post.kos.net> On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Lamontagne Geophysics Ltd. wrote: > > Can anyone offer me even a minimalist recipe, just so I can get off the ground? > There's a little tool named DNS Helper that comes with the OmniWeb web browser. You can use it to set the DNS and IP. You can find both prgs on the Third Party CD that comes with DR1. cu -Stefan __Stefan Huy___________________________________________________________ ____ ______ mailto:huy@stud.uni-hannover.de ________ http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~huy _______________________________________________________________________
From: jklein@freon.artificial.com (jon klein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: dat drive on openstep for sparc Date: 21 Dec 97 08:42:13 GMT Message-ID: <349cd665.0@192.33.12.30> Hi, I've just installed OpenStep 4.2 on a sparc 5. Included with the machine was a Mountain FileSafe 1200 plus dat drive which I don't know too much about. Under solaris I could simply write to /dev/rmt/0. Under OpenStep I can't find the right device... nrst[01] and rst[01] don't seem to work. When the machine boots up, I can't actually confirm that the drive is being spotte even with verbose startup. MAKEDEV and the OpenStep driver installer confirm that the devices exist and that it should be working. Does anybody know anything about this? Also, if anybody has OpenStep/sparc experience I have a few questions moving over from black hardware. Thanks. -- -jon klein, jklein@freon.artificial.com NeXTmail welcome
From: "David J. Topper" <topper@virginia.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: rsh question Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:46:10 -0500 Organization: University of Virginia Message-ID: <3497E5B2.4F020E8@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I'm trying to set up a shell script that will do some maintenance every night. Sadly, it must run on some NeXTs and a Linux box. It relies on being able to rsh (as root) from a NeXT to the other NeXTs and the Linux box. How do I control this? I see that root CAN rsh in to the Linux box and cannot rsh into the NeXTs. I'm a bit worried that Linux's default is to allow rsh logins. Shouldn't I be? DT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: swapdisk : External Disk partion for swap Message-ID: <ELJA0D.FC8@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <ELI41B.nu@yves.fdn.fr> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 09:50:37 GMT In article <ELI41B.nu@yves.fdn.fr> yves (Yves_AKAKPO) writes: > Hi all > > NS 3.3 and Black slab > I ve partitioned my EXTERNAL DISC. > I ve mount in file /etc/fstab in directory /User one partition as line > /dev/sd1a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2. > > How can I do to use second partition as swap disk? > Not as "swap disk", that is a special term, referring to a (rather small) drive with just one partition and the reserved label "swapdisk" that is recognized at system initialization and mounted exclusively for swapping. On NEXTSTEP swapping is done to a normal disk file. So you don't even need to have a special partition, just enough free space for a large file. And you mount that partition as any other partition. Swapspace is declared in the file /etc/swaptab. The matter is described in the man-pages and, to more detail, in the online SysAdmin manual. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: rft@cg.tuwien.spam (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: rsh question Date: 17 Dec 1997 17:28:35 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <679243$1f4@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <3497E5B2.4F020E8@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: topper@virginia.edu In <3497E5B2.4F020E8@virginia.edu> "David J. Topper" wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to set up a shell script that will do some maintenance every > night. Sadly, it must run on some NeXTs and a Linux box. It relies on > being able to rsh (as root) from a NeXT to the other NeXTs and the Linux > > box. How do I control this? I see that root CAN rsh in to the Linux > box and cannot rsh into the NeXTs. There are a number of security problems which make it possible to break into a machine with rsh turned on. A lot of people therefore turn it of for pseudo terminals (network). I would suggest to install secure shell which is a secure drop in replacement and works very nicely. For more information take a look at: http://www.cs.hut.fi/ssh/ and for a precompiled Next version (1.2.20) search peak or peanuts ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/ ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/ We have been using ssh here at the Institute of Computer Graphics in a heterogeneous environment containing SGI's, LINUX boxes and NeXTs (intel & motorola), for well over a year now, and the whole setup works pretty well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4575,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto: replace the last domain Vienna University of Technology - extension by ac dot at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: error writing disk label on TurboColor NS3.2 Message-ID: <ELC0Fz.DtH@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <66u38e$88u@panix2.panix.com> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:40:47 GMT In article <66u38e$88u@panix2.panix.com> chang@panix.com (Ray Chang) writes: > I bought a Western Digital Enterprise 4360 scsi 4.36 gig drive and I'm > having problem partitioning the drive. I've read and followed > entry # 1533, Initializing and Partioning Large Disks, on > NeXTanswers, but I'm getting errors when executing the disk > command. Also, I'm not sure of the correct jumper settings on > the drive. I'll do some experiment when I find some jumpers. > I've attatched some relevant infomation at the end of this article. > > Current jumper settings: > > jumper installed feature > no Spindle Synchronization > no SCAM > no Disable Target Initiated Synchronous/Wide > Negotiation The last jumper seems to be wrong! All black hardware requires hard disks to run in asynch mode with extended command set disabled (basic SCSI 1 configuration). I can't say how to achieve this on a Western Digital drive, but a OEM data sheet should suffice to tell how. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How to set up a headless NeXT as a server Message-ID: <ELC0ux.Du7@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <349319C9.BAFC480D@got.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:49:45 GMT In article <349319C9.BAFC480D@got.net> cqw <cqw@got.net> writes: > Does anybody know if there is a How-To to set up a headless NeXT as a > server? > A server for what? > If not, anyone wish to share his experience? > Really, the more often I read this posting I think it's a joke. And the proper answer seems to me: "Yes, probably a blind man would want to." But seriously, it ain't any different from a normal machine. Except that you will have to do all actions either in remote shells or NXHosted GUI sessions. But that is basic Unix/NEXTSTEP... -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How to share FD,OD,CD-ROM drives with black NeXTs? Message-ID: <ELC18n.DwJ@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <EL8wvt.Lno@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:57:59 GMT In article <EL8wvt.Lno@midway.uchicago.edu> tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) writes: > > Yes, I'd like to configure two or more black NeXT machines to share > the same set of drives. The sysadmin manual does not say how to do this. > Since this is doable with SUN machine, I guess this should be doable > with NeXT. I do not want to manually mount each media. > You can't share automounted devices since their mount point changes after changing the media (the mount point is named after the disk label). Manually NFSexporting therefore isn't practicable (as long as you refrain from the desparate measure to try exporting the root filesystem). The least you'd have to do is manually remount each disk to a known mount point that can be NFSexported statically. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Linked Home Directories Message-ID: <ELC1Gz.Dx9@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <6774qt$pm5$1@news3.tufts.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:02:59 GMT In article <6774qt$pm5$1@news3.tufts.edu> dhassell@diamond.tufts.edu (David Hassell) writes: > I've set up my /Users directory to link to /loc/users/ on a separate > device where I hoped to place user directories. For some reason, if I > create users with /Users/<username>, sometimes the $home variable is set > to /, and in all cases, the .cshrc in the users' homes are not sourced. > Any ideas? Thanks. > There seems to be something wrong in the way you use UserManager, IMHO. But why aren't you just entering a different home directory in UserManager? To me that would be more logical than linking the default to a different place. And from NS 3.3 on you can even configure this into the driver scripts of UserManager. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: boom@sonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: booting headless NeXT machines Date: 17 Dec 1997 17:41:58 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <6792t6$a86$1@news2.digex.net> Summary: NeXT boot Keywords: NeXT boot hi all - can anyone tell me if it is possible to boot any of the NeXT black hardware w/out monitor, keyb., mouse, sound box ? i know headless is ok... thanks erik scheirer sonYx, Inc.
From: boom@sonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can I use a removeable hard drive with Openstep? Date: 17 Dec 1997 17:46:23 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <67935f$a86$2@news2.digex.net> References: <349966ca.10298729@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> In Can I use a removeable hard drive with Openstep? comp.sys.next.sysadmin cloaked@fornospam.com writes, > > I currently run Windoze 95 and would also like > to run Openstep 4.2 ("Openstep for the intel" or > is it "Openstep for the Mach"? -the one without > WindowsNT). I have a 4 gig hard drive installed. > I really don't want to go through the nightmare > of trying to get two operating systems to work! > > I was thinking of one strategy: getting one of those > removable hard drives. I am wondering if anyone else > has done/does this? One other option would be the > Iomega "Jazz" drive (though I swore I would never > buy another thing from Iomega). > > Has any body ever done any of these? plese respond > in the newsgroup. Thank you. Hiho -- we use Syquest Syjet (1.5 gig) and EZDrives (135 meg) here, all SCSI. they work %100 out of the box, no special setup need be done. i recommend them highly. also, we use the Seagate TapeStor 8 gig scsi tape device, it works too! and its only about $350 or so :) cheers erik scheirer sonYx, Inc.
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: rsh question Date: 17 Dec 1997 16:15:38 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <678tra$4kb$3@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <3497E5B2.4F020E8@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: topper@virginia.edu In <3497E5B2.4F020E8@virginia.edu> "David J. Topper" wrote: > I'm trying to set up a shell script that will do some maintenance every > night. Sadly, it must run on some NeXTs and a Linux box. It relies on > being able to rsh (as root) from a NeXT to the other NeXTs and the Linux > box. How do I control this? I see that root CAN rsh in to the Linux box > and cannot rsh into the NeXTs. That shouldn't be a problem. To enable root to rsh between different machines, you need to set up a .rhosts file in root's home directory: on NeXTen that's /, while on BSD4.4, Linux as various other more modern unices, it in /root. If, on host foo.domain.com, you have a .rhosts file like this: bar.domain.com root that says that root on host `bar.domain.com' is allowed to rsh to `foo.domain.com' without having to give a password. Note that it is imperative that you give the remote userid in the second field, otherwise anyone can run commands as root on your machine... Root's .rhosts file should be at least mode 0444, and preferably mode 0400. Oh, and while you're about it, change the permissions on the Next's root directory to 0755 rather than the (quite bizarre) 01777 that they ship with. Note also that the root account is special, and that while this setup will let you use `rsh' to run a remote process it won't let you `rlogin' or use `rsh' to run a login shell, at least on a NeXT machine. Also note that the system wide equivalent the ~/.rhosts file, which is /etc/hosts.equiv, *doesn't* apply to root. Indeed, in /etc/hosts.equiv, you shouldn't supply the optional userid part, or everyone on the remote machine will end up logging in as that userid. > I'm a bit worried that Linux's default is to allow rsh logins. > Shouldn't I be? Hmmm... That sounds a mite suspicious. Most Linux distributions are fairly well clued up about security. If you're saying that anyone can access your linux box either by rlogin or rsh when you haven't specifically enabled them, then yes, you should worry. If you're saying the you can get a login shell as root on the Linux box via the .rhosts mechanism when you can't under NextStep, then that's not quite so worrying. I'm not exactly sure what the correct file is under Linux, but under NextStep, there is a database of terminals in /etc/ttys. The ttys(5) man page states: The remaining fields set flags in the ty_status entry (see getttyent(3)) or specify a window system process that init(8) will maintain for the terminal line. As flag values, the strings `on' and `off' specify whether or not init should execute the command given in the second field (it's an error to specify `on' if the second field contains the string `none' rather than a command). The string `secure' in addition to `on' allows root to login on this line. These flag fields should not be quoted. Under NextStep, only the *physical* terminals (/dev/console, /dev/ttya, dev/ttyb, ...) are marked as secure. The *pseudo* terminals (/dev/ttyp0, dev/ttyp1, ...) are insecure, so root isn't allowed to log in there --- and as a telnet or rlogin session (or indeed an xterm or Terminal.app window) correspond to a pseudo terminal, so root isn't allowed to log in. Cheers, Matthew [Posted and mailed] PS. One simple thing you can to do to improve the security of your NeXT box is to install tcp_wrappers-7.6 to control access to the services provided via inetd (eg. rsh, ftp, telnet, etc.) As I remember, Linux machines come with tcp_wrappers pre-installed (one of the very few unices to do so) and all that is necessary is to set up a hosts.allow and maybe a hosts.deny file. See the hosts_access(5) and hosts_options(5) man pages for details.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <67h1n5$el3$506@nnrp2.snfc21.pbi.net> Control: cancel <67h1n5$el3$506@nnrp2.snfc21.pbi.net> Date: 22 Dec 1997 02:17:33 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.67h1n5$el3$506@nnrp2.snfc21.pbi.net> Sender: 4285@4285.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: rsh question Date: 17 Dec 1997 16:43:01 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <678vel$i3g$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <3497E5B2.4F020E8@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: topper@virginia.edu In <3497E5B2.4F020E8@virginia.edu> "David J. Topper" wrote: > I'm trying to set up a shell script that will do some maintenance every > night. Sadly, it must run on some NeXTs and a Linux box. It relies on > being able to rsh (as root) from a NeXT to the other NeXTs and the Linux > box. How do I control this? I see that root CAN rsh in to the Linux > box and cannot rsh into the NeXTs. NeXT wins again :-) > I'm a bit worried that Linux's default is to allow rsh logins. > Shouldn't I be? I think root rsh's would be a huge security hole. The best way to do this is to copy the script to both the Linux and the NeXT boxes (or NFS mount them) and run them as a cron job. If you want to brainstorm, feel free to drop me a line, as I have some scripting experience myself.... TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Mark Stankus <mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Forgot root password Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:50:18 -0800 Organization: Lab for Mathematics and Statistics @ UCSD Message-ID: <3498734A.167EB0E7@oba.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: mstankus@calpoly.edu I have an old next computer (black 25 or 33 MHz). I moved and forgot the root password. I called 1-800-try-next and they told me to try nextanswers, but I could not find the appropriate article. Could someone point me in the right direction? By the way, this is my computer and I am a Professor, not a student. Mark Stankus mstankus@calpoly.edu (Professor)
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From: Louis.Eagle@tek.com Subject: boot from CD for restore Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:11:41 -0600 Message-ID: <882388446.850788353@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: Deja News Posting Service Hello, I am trying to restore to what was/will be my systems (black slab) only harddisk. So, I boot from the 3.3 install floppy & CDROM with: bfd -s OK so far... restore requires a writeable /tmp so I try to mount a floppy on /tmp with mount -n /dev/fd0a /tmp but mount fails with an error about /private/tmp being a read only file system. I assume this is because mount follows the /tmp -> /private/tmp link and the CDROM is mounted read only. (I can mount the floppy on /mnt with no problem) I tried remounting the CDROM read-write, but was chastised for an illegal remount. What am I missing? Any suggestions?: Please reply directly to Louis.Eagle@tek.com and not to this newsgroup Thanks, Louis -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: planetary <kris@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Diamond Supra NetCommander driver interest? Date: 18 Dec 1997 00:38:10 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <67ajt2$qog$1@xmission.xmission.com> If you are interested in a driver for the Diamond NetCommander for Rhapsody, please drop me an email. I'm hoping to get enough support that I can beat up the apropos people to make this happen. This is an internal ISA-based ISDN card with an integrated NT1, one POTS port, and 128Kb B-channel bonding. Its firmware is capable of adding bandwidth on demand--the Win 95 driver does exactly this. I am trying to convince the product manager that he should give me the tech docs necessary to create such a beast. His stock answer is that their Windows drivers should be enough. Obviously he has never tried to use Windows as a reliable router/gateway/firewall. If you are interested, how much would you consider paying for technical support and for the binary? This driver would be completely disowned by Diamond, so releasing it would require us to charge a little money. Rhapsody would of course be our first targeted platform, but we would also consider releasing a binary for UnixWare, Solaris x86, NetWare, or perhaps Linux and FreeBSD, although I suspect a binary-only driver wouldn't go over well with the GPL true believers. Also, this would be Intel only, since m98k arch computers generally have no ISA cards. .................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you know so much about Usenet, then why are you still posting?
From: dhassell@diamond.tufts.edu (David Hassell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Services Menu Date: 17 Dec 1997 21:34:35 GMT Organization: Tufts University Message-ID: <679ghb$o9s$1@news3.tufts.edu> I recently installed a piece of shareware that told me it had expired as soon as I ran it. No big deal, I just deleted it. I suppose at that time, it placed a menu list within my Services menu, which I can disable in the preferences, but can't seem to permanently delete. Is the only way to do this to manually edit the .Next/services/.applist file, or is there a nicer interface I can use to manage this menu? Thanks! - Dave -- David Hassell dhassell@emerald.tufts.edu Tufts Varsity Crew @diamond.tufts.edu Residential Computer Consultant, @eecs.tufts.edu Area Supervisor http://www.tufts.edu/~dhassell/crew.html
From: robertk@ansel (Bob Kurhajetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Nextstep 3.3 - strange hanging boot process - any ideas ? Date: 22 Dec 1997 15:17:14 GMT Organization: "CARDEROCKDIV CDNSWC" Message-ID: <67m09qINN3e3@oasys.dt.navy.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy Have a strange problem with a Nextstation turbo that we just got back after spending time in another office - when we try to boot it we get the following msg; boot sd(0,0,0) diagnostics booting SCSI Target 0, lun 0 blk0 boot: sd () diagnostics booting from SCSI Target 0 lun 0 diagnostics: not found load failed blk0 boot: and then it just hangs - any ideas how to work around this ? Thanks -- Bob Kurhajetz Department of the Navy CDNSWC | Code 3021 Media Lab Services Bethesda, MD 20084 | 301 227-1157 VOICE | 301 227-3360 FAX MIME bob@monet.dt.navy.mil | NEXTMAIL robertk@ansel.dt.navy.mil "objects in mirror are closer than they appear"
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Nextstep 3.3 - strange hanging boot process - any ideas ? Date: 22 Dec 1997 16:23:47 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <67m46j$8oo$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <67m09qINN3e3@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: robertk@ansel In <67m09qINN3e3@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Bob Kurhajetz wrote: > Howdy > > Have a strange problem with a Nextstation turbo that we just got back after > spending time in another office - > > > when we try to boot it we get the following msg; > > boot sd(0,0,0) diagnostics > booting SCSI Target 0, lun 0 > blk0 boot: sd () diagnostics > booting from SCSI Target 0 lun 0 > diagnostics: not found > load failed > blk0 boot: > > > and then it just hangs - any ideas how to work around this ? Yup. Your disk is fried. You need to boot single user from the installation floppy and try re-installing the boot block using the disk -b /dev/rsd0a command. Even so, there's no guarrantee that you will be able to get any life out of the disk at all. Treat any access you can get to the disk contents as a bonus and plan on replacing it ASAP. Matthew Although I could tell you some horror stories about what it takes to get some disks with advanced cases of "sticktion" to spin up... [Posted and mailed]
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: [Q] re: ATAPI zip drive Date: 22 Dec 1997 18:14:57 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <67man1$arc@news.acns.nwu.edu> I have a new machine with an ATAPI Zip drive. Can anyone tell me the short version of how to use it under OpenStep 4.2? Other than the ATAPI zip drive the system is entirely SCSI. Are there limitations on if it is in a Master or Slave etc...? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Nextstep 3.3 - strange hanging boot process - any ideas ? Date: 22 Dec 1997 19:34:21 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <67mfbt$819$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <67m09qINN3e3@oasys.dt.navy.mil> <67m46j$8oo$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) wrote: > In <67m09qINN3e3@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Bob Kurhajetz wrote: >> when we try to boot it we get the following msg; >> >> boot sd(0,0,0) diagnostics >> booting SCSI Target 0, lun 0 >> blk0 boot: sd () diagnostics >> booting from SCSI Target 0 lun 0 >> diagnostics: not found >> load failed >> blk0 boot: [ ... ] > Yup. Your disk is fried. [ ... ] Don't think so. Notice the "diagnostics" entry in the boot command? This was the extended hardware diagnostics used by NeXT's hardware technicians which were never shipped to normal users. Basicly, you want to disable the "boot extended diagnostics" option in the ROM monitor. Do Cmd-Cmd-~, and then a '?' to see the list of options. You're looking to change the boot command, which is probably 'b', but I'm getting rusty that level of detail for black hardware. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: |raptor@peregrine.pswtech.com (scott mullen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: ip masquerading and openstep Date: 22 Dec 1997 21:15:42 GMT Organization: PSW Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <67ml9u$p15$1@digdug.pswtech.com> anyone have tips on configuring gated for ip masquerading under openstep 4.2? would like to have a small network on the 192.x go through 1 next with a "real" ip address. Looked at the linux faq, but it doesn't match exactly.........
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From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: fstab: is this the proper setup? Date: 22 Dec 1997 23:52:30 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <67mufu$imr$1@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <66t4hc$cjb$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <672s4r$5ku@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de In <672s4r$5ku@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Sven Droll wrote: > No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) wrote: > > > >I confess that although I have read the man page I am still not sure about > >the numbers at the end. Is this the right thing to use for /etc/fstab ? > > > >/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 > >/dev/sd1a /Disk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 > >/dev/sd2a /Disk2 4.3 rw,noquota 0 3 > <<<snip>>> > > its almost exactly what we use in at least 4 NeXTs (black and white). the > second-last numbers differ (I don't know exactly why I set them 0, 1, ..., > but it worked for a loooong time) OK, guys, it's time for the Unix man page reading lesson. The first of those two numbers is the dump frequency, in days. If you want to, the dump program will look at /etc/dumpdates and /etc/fstab and remind you of which files have not been dumped recently and are due for a fresh backup. "dump -W". The second number is the fsck pass number. When the file system integrity is checked by running fsck, it does its operations in the sequence specified by those numbers. 0, 1, 2, etc. If you have file systems that are on physically separate drives, you can speed this process up by checking two at once. But always the root file system by itself on pass 0. Further reading can be found at mntent(5) which is the man page for fstab, and at dump(8). carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
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From: boom@sonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ip masquerading and openstep Date: 23 Dec 1997 12:40:03 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <67obf3$4b7$1@news2.digex.net> References: <67ml9u$p15$1@digdug.pswtech.com> In ip masquerading and openstep comp.sys.next.sysadmin |raptor@peregrine.pswtech.com (scott mullen) writes, > anyone have tips on configuring gated for ip masquerading under > openstep 4.2? > > would like to have a small network on the 192.x go through 1 next with > a "real" ip address. > > Looked at the linux faq, but it doesn't match exactly......... funny thing, i just went through all that last week! i can tell you with certainty that IP masq... is not something that NS/OS can do. a 486 dedicated as the gateway with freeBSD 2.2.2 RELEASE on it is a great solution. its only job is to do the IP aliasing (masq...) and it does a fantastic job at that, and its free! believe me, we tried everything to coax the OpenStep machines into letting us to some kind of fancy routing, but there is just no way, mostly because those kernels do not support IP Forwarding. freeBSD is solid, easy to install, and the IP maasq... is clearly documented under the PPP section at the freebsd.org website. just a few steps to go through, and you are up and running. much easier than linux, too. anyway, cheers, and good luck erik scheirer sonYx, Inc.
From: perkins@netmass.com. (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ip masquerading and openstep Date: 23 Dec 1997 14:04:48 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments Message-ID: <67oge0$9j8$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> References: <67ml9u$p15$1@digdug.pswtech.com> <67obf3$4b7$1@news2.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <67obf3$4b7$1@news2.digex.net> >funny thing, i just went through all that last week! i can tell you >with certainty that IP masq... is not something that NS/OS can do. Currently. >believe me, we tried everything to coax the OpenStep machines into >letting us to some kind of fancy routing, but there is just no way, >mostly because those kernels do not support IP Forwarding. The kernel does support IP Forwarding. It is just not turned on by default. An LKS can be written to support IP Masquerading. I have been toying with the idea of writing a Network Address Translation (NAT) server for NS/OS. I will probably actually work on it for Rhapsody (if I get around to it at all). Just my thoughts... - Steve -- --- Stephen J. Perkins NetMass Communications, e-mail: perkins@netmass.com NeXT PPP-2.3 info at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: Andrew <lauzonan@rmoc.on.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: samba help Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 11:58:24 -0500 Organization: RMOC Message-ID: <349FEDB0.44AC@rmoc.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know where i can get samba binaries for NeXTSTEP 3.3? I would really appreciate any help. Andrew
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: fmlazar@fc.copytoneonline.com (Frank Lazar) Subject: NeXT Black on IP network Organization: Copytone Visual Communications Message-ID: <fmlazar-2312971404060001@165.254.229.6> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 19:04:06 GMT I did this once before under a different setup but the tricks I learned then aren't helping now. We just put in LAN internet access through a 56k frame relay router at work and I want to use a Turbo Color Slab as a low volume mailserver (about 10-15 users max). The envirnonmet is a 10-baseT network with a couple of Wintel machines, 1 Amiga and the rest Macintosh workstations. The Macs and others are setup and running fine, but the NeXT itself can't seem to see the router. My IP setup is as follows. Class C network addresses running 1-255, router is at xxx.xxx.xxx.1 netmask at 255.255.255.0 I want to put the NeXT at xxx.xxx.xxx.2 or somesuch low number. I've tried entering parameters via the Simple Network Starter and by editing host.config. I'm missing some detail but I can't guess what. Thanks in advance for any help.
From: Nikolai T. <nikt@rocketmail.com> Subject: [Q] How to make NeXT booting off SCSI ID1 ? Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 14:33:22 -0600 Message-ID: <882906959.1814626315@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: Deja News Posting Service Ok, docs say NeXT will boot from device with lowest SCSI ID, I've attached a SCSI flatbed scanner with ID 0, and it can't ! Could anybody send me a bootable image ? *** Seriously: I have a Turbo Cube running NS3.3, with a 400MB disk (SCSI ID 0). Recently I've added 1GB disk (SCSI ID 1), copied NS to it (with ditto), and was booting from it with command bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1a Everything was working fine, so I thought of using 400MB one as a dedicated swap and scratch disk. So I set SCSI ID for 400MB disk to 2, assuming that 1GB will become a lowest-ID device, and NeXT will boot from it automagically. I WAS WRONG ! What happens : It hangs trying to mount filesystems during normal boot; When booting single-user it says something like : SEAGATE ST31200N as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0 (...) root on sd0 Mon Dec 22 checking disks Can't open /dev/rsd1a (null pointer): CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM (null pointer): UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY Reboot failed... help! mount: /dev/sd1a on / : no such device or address mount: giving up on / Faking root mount entries # at this point /dev/sd1a appears to be mounted read-only. fstab refers to /dev/sd1a only. After I restored SCSI ID to old configuration, everything was working OK. I haven't tried setting new 1GB disk to SCSI ID 0 yet, but I'd prefer to keep primary boot device at SCSI 1, to be able to attach external disk with SCSI 0 and boot from it. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. And I should notice, NeXT looks really ugly when its guts are hanging on SCSI and power cables... just like a PC. Thanks, Nikolai Teleguine -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ip masquerading and openstep Message-ID: <vjbNnAE$flF0@cc.usu.edu> From: root@127.0.0.1 Date: 23 Dec 97 11:21:57 MDT References: <67ml9u$p15$1@digdug.pswtech.com> <67obf3$4b7$1@news2.digex.net> <67oge0$9j8$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In <67oge0$9j8$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> Stephen J. Perkins wrote: > >funny thing, i just went through all that last week! i can tell you > >with certainty that IP masq... is not something that NS/OS can do. > > Currently. > > >believe me, we tried everything to coax the OpenStep machines into > >letting us to some kind of fancy routing, but there is just no way, > >mostly because those kernels do not support IP Forwarding. > > The kernel does support IP Forwarding. It is just not turned on by > default. An LKS can be written to support IP Masquerading. > I have been toying with the idea of writing a Network Address > Translation (NAT) server for NS/OS. I will probably actually > work on it for Rhapsody (if I get around to it at all). > Isn't it true that IP forwarding can be turned on with a command-line boot switch? I don't recall exactly what the syntax is though. Anyone else remember this?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ip masquerading and openstep Message-ID: <6ShbBlI9Ne6D@cc.usu.edu> From: root@127.0.0.1 Date: 23 Dec 97 12:44:50 MDT References: <67ml9u$p15$1@digdug.pswtech.com> <67obf3$4b7$1@news2.digex.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In <67obf3$4b7$1@news2.digex.net> boom@sonyx.com wrote: > In ip masquerading and openstep comp.sys.next.sysadmin |r aptor@peregrine.pswtech.com (scott mullen) writes, > > > anyone have tips on configuring gated for ip masquerading under > > openstep 4.2? > > > > would like to have a small network on the 192.x go through 1 next with > > a "real" ip address. > > > > Looked at the linux faq, but it doesn't match exactly......... > > funny thing, i just went through all that last week! i can tell you with > certainty that IP masq... is not something that NS/OS can do. > > believe me, we tried everything to coax the OpenStep machines into letting us > to some kind of fancy routing, but there is just no way, mostly because those > kernels do not support IP Forwarding. > I searched through the old backups I have, and found this little utility to turn on ipforwarding in the kernel. Short source, so I'll post it here. I can't vouch for it, I have not tested it. I will not be responsible for system blowups or damage of any kind that result from using this code. Use at your own risk: /* For OS4.2, compile with: cc -o ipforwarding -O -bsd -fno-builtin -no-precomp ipforwarding.c */ #include <stdio.h> #include <strings.h> #ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0 #ifndef __STRICT_BSD__ #error Compile with cc -o ipforwarding -s -object -O -bsd -fno-builtin -no-precomp ipforwarding.c #endif #include <mach-o/nlist.h> #include <bsd/libc.h> #include <bsd/sys/fcntl.h> #else #ifndef __STRICT_BSD__ #error Compile with cc -o ipforwarding -s -object -O -bsd ipforwarding.c #endif #include <nlist.h> #include <libc.h> #include <sys/fcntl.h> #endif struct nlist nl[]={ { { "_ipforwarding" } }, { { (char *)NULL } } }; int ipforwarding; main(argc, argv) int argc; char *argv[]; { register int s; int k; char *KERNEL, *KMEM; switch (argc) { case 1: break; case 2: if (!strcmp(argv[1], "off")) break; if (!strcmp(argv[1], "on")) { ipforwarding=1; break; } if ((argv[1][0]>='0'&&argv[1][0]<='9')||argv[1][0]=='-') { ipforwarding=atoi(argv[1]); break; } /*FALL THROUGH*/ default: (void)fprintf(stderr, "Usage: %s [on|off]\n", *argv); exit(1); } if (!(KERNEL=getenv("KERNEL"))) #ifdef i386 KERNEL="/mach_kernel"; #else KERNEL="/mach"; #endif if (!(KMEM=getenv("KMEM"))) KMEM="/dev/kmem"; s=nlist(KERNEL, nl); if (s<0) { perror(KERNEL); exit(1); } if (s!=0) { (void)fprintf(stderr, "%s: nlist failed\n", *argv); exit(1); } if ((k=open(KMEM, argc>1 ? O_RDWR : O_RDONLY))<0) { perror(KMEM); exit(1); } if (lseek(k, (long)nl[0].n_value, 0)<0L) { perror("lseek"); exit(1); } if (argc<=1) { if (read(k, (char *)&ipforwarding, sizeof ipforwarding)!= sizeof ipforwarding) { perror("read"); exit(1); } (void)fputs("ipforwarding is ", stdout); switch (ipforwarding) { case 0: (void)fputs("off\n", stdout); break; case 1: (void)fputs("on\n", stdout); break; default: (void)printf("%d\n", ipforwarding); break; } } else if (write(k, (char *)&ipforwarding, sizeof ipforwarding)!= sizeof ipforwarding) { perror("write"); exit(1); } (void)close(k); exit(0); }
From: "scott nichol" <nichol@netaxs.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: setting up TCP/IP btwn blue box & rhapsody... Date: 23 Dec 97 23:38:45 -0500 Organization: newsread.com ISP News Reading Service Message-ID: <B0C5FC31-14430@207.8.209.13> References: <alex-2012972025480001@castle.webis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.netaxs.com/comp.sys.next.sysadmin look everyone: > : On 19 Dec 97 19:28:32 -0500, nichol@netaxs.com <nichol@netaxs.com> > wrote: > : >i've just received my copy of blue box for rhapsody and it seems to > : You just got it and didn't even blink before violating your NDA. :( > : > : Please do not break your NDA here! Any little problem you report > : here will be blown way out of preportion. It is not a product yet, > : so you can't expect it to be perfect. > Plus, if you got it, you should've read the release notes which explain a > lot of your questions...are you sure you got a legit copy? i remember reading about this as posted to one of these groups by an apple employee working on the rhapsody project. if he can post info about it and not get fired, i think its pretty much common knowledge. anyway, is my copy legit? sure, i'm a registered developer. i think apple is looking very forward to having their developers find new and innovative uses for the macOS/Rhapsody combination. anyway, if you don't know just say so. thanks, scott nichol --------------------------------------------------- you say that you've got an open mind but it's your mouth that's open all the time - posterchildren "get a life" --------------------------------------------------- mailto:nichol@netaxs.com (Scott Nichol) http://www.netaxs.com/~nichol
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Oracle on OpenStep Version?? Date: 24 Dec 1997 19:14:35 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <67rmur$qs3$1@brie.direct.ca> Does any ony know one way or another if Oracle for Next hardware will run under any version of OpenStep. It didn't under NS 3.3. The install notes or errata should say. Thanks in advance. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely P.S. The return e-mail address is set to foil spammers.
From: andrew@AmbrosiaSW.com (Andrew Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: POP3 Server for Rhapsody/OpenStep Message-ID: <andrew-2212970229460001@hervor.valkyrie.com> References: <*punisher-1312971316390001@async14.ts-b-caps1.caps.maine.edu> Organization: Ambrosia Software, Inc. Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 07:26:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 02:26:37 EST In article <*punisher-1312971316390001@async14.ts-b-caps1.caps.maine.edu>, *punisher@enterprise.umecit.maine.edu* (Punisher) wrote: > I'm running Rhapsody DR1 (BSD 4.4) on a Power Macintosh 8500/150. > > I have SMTP activated using the sendmail command, but have been unable to > enable POP3 for users of the system. I cannon find the popd command in > this build. Everything seems complete with this exception. I even got > the Apache web server up and running without a hitch. Check out qpopper, I compiled and installed is successfully under OpenStep 4.2: ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/qpopper2.4.tar.Z +--------------------------+-----------------------------------+ | Andrew Welch | Ambrosia Software, Inc. | | Thaumaturgist | http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/ | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------+
From: devjava@jps.net (me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Logon to...NeXT Cube Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 07:54:46 GMT Message-ID: <349e1cbb.12516359@news.jps.net> References: <349AE16A.56E4@rssc.slg.eds.com> Hi, Here are some instructions on how to break into your NeXT machine: % bsd -s % sh /etc/rc & % passwd root <new password> % reboot Turn off the system and then on again. Thomas A useful tip... After booting with bsd -s % mount -o remount / remounts the file system as read/write. Thomas On Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:04:43 -0500, Stephen Sellars <stephen.sellars@rssc.slg.eds.com> wrote: >Hello- apologies in advance from another NeXT newbie...one who >has just bought a '90 vintage Cube (formerly a UNC machine --> >the Power On key reads "More Beer"!) that apparently was set up >on a network. I think it's got OpenStep ver 2.1 on the hard drive, >but I'm having trouble getting to the desktop...since it tries >to connect to the network, and when I use 'c' to continue in the >ROM Monitor, and then NeXT>bsd -s, I just end up at the desktop >prompt for a User ID & Password (which of course I don't know). > >I can get around the UNIX files, but since I'm UNIX illiterate, >I don't know how to give myself system admin type rights. > >Any pointers, or suggested reading would be greatly appreciated! > >Responses can be reached directly at: > >stephen.sellars@rssc.slg.eds.com
From: alex@webis.net (Alex Kac) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: setting up TCP/IP btwn blue box & rhapsody... Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:25:48 -0600 Organization: Web Information Solutions---Interactive and database web design studio Message-ID: <alex-2012972025480001@castle.webis.net> References: <B0C07B86-E9F2@207.8.209.14> <slrn69m9ec.dm0.sal@panix3.panix.com> In article <slrn69m9ec.dm0.sal@panix3.panix.com>, sal@panix3.panix.com (Salvatore Denaro) wrote: : On 19 Dec 97 19:28:32 -0500, nichol@netaxs.com <nichol@netaxs.com> wrote: : >i've just received my copy of blue box for rhapsody and it seems to : : You just got it and didn't even blink before violating your NDA. :( : : Please do not break your NDA here! Any little problem you report : here will be blown way out of preportion. It is not a product yet, : so you can't expect it to be perfect. : : -- Plus, if you got it, you should've read the release notes which explain a lot of your questions...are you sure you got a legit copy? -- Web Information Solutions CEO <http://www.WebIS.net> VersaCom Chief Technology Officer <http://www.VersaCom.com>
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From: andrew@vegas.net Subject: External CDROM Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 04:21:05 -0600 Message-ID: <883131483.312147977@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: VegasNet What kind of cdroms can i use with my color turbo nextstation? I need to desperately get a cdrom for mine, and want to know what kind works. Does anybody have any good sites on the web that sell used external cdroms? -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: andrew@vegas.net Subject: Wanted: NS3.3 or OS4.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 04:32:03 -0600 Message-ID: <883131720.323223557@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: VegasNet I am looking to buy either a copy of NS3.3 or OS4.2. What is the minimum system requirements needed to run OS4.2? I have a turbo color nextstation with 33mhz, 16megs, and 400mb hd. Am I better off buying NS3.3? Or should I go for OS? Anyways, if interested in helping me out a bit, or if you have one of those for sale.. email me. andrew@vegas.net -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: me@claire (My Account) Subject: Swapdisk: external disk partition Message-ID: <ELMBw7.qM@yves.fdn.fr> Keywords: Swapdisk Sender: me@yves.fdn.fr (My Account) Organization: Individual Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 01:24:06 GMT Hi all NS 3.3 and Black slab I ve partitioned my EXTERNAL DISC. I ve mount in file /etc/fstab in directory /User one partition as line /dev/sd1a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2. How can I do to use second partition as swap disk? Thanks in advance for any help Yves
From: chrish@cc.usu.edu (PUNCHOUT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Q: configureing nameserver for NS3.3 Message-ID: <zPaCmfLpx9ey@cc.usu.edu> Date: 26 Dec 97 13:37:55 MDT Organization: Utah State University NS 3.3 Networking/BIND question: I am sure this is covered in a faq somewhere or perhaps nextanswers, but as I am far too dence it seems to find the exact answer to my question I'm going to risk flamulation and post my question anyhow. The question is as follows: I have a domain name for my black hardware, I want my black hardware running NS3.3 to be my name server... eg. ns1.domain.org I have used the simple network start to do my initial configuration, I have creaded a /etc/hosts and /etc/resolve.conf with the appropriate information. I have also mucked around with host manager and netinfo manager. 1st problem: I noticed under hostmanager that the domain begins at / then goes to /machinename then to /machinename/localhost and broadcast host. I made sure all of these had the appropriate ethernet number and that machinename had the appropriate IP#. unfortuneately, when I do an nslookup I get the following responce: Can't find server name for address xxx.xx.xx.xx: No response from server Default Server: machinename.domain.org Address: xxx.xx.xx.xx-- I have placed xxx for the actual IP and name for the machines. Anyhow, it is unable to match the server name of my machine to its IP#, so it moves to its secondary host. This is very retarded and is pissing me off to no end. I am at a loss. I have a copy of the Network And system administration whitebook by Next which has served to confuse me thouroghly as it mentions in passing the use of domain name service (I guess not a big concern at the time the book was writtain). Does someone have a webpage step by step description of HOW TO configure a nextstation as a nameserver? I would be very grateful for any help in this reguard for I am reaching the point of apocolyptic computer meltdown when I muck around too much with hostmanager and net info manager. I also examined the online docs for these utilities and found them to be lacking in domain name service instructions. Oh, whois shows the appropriate information for my DNS and hostname and nameserver. BAH!#@ Thanks in advance: Christian ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Christian Shank Graduate Student College of Natural Resources Utah State University Logan, Utah 84341 chrish@cc.usu.edu
From: Super-User <root@saturn.med.nyu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NetInfo Source....? Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:09:30 -0500 Organization: New York University Message-ID: <34A47F7A.DD4D47DD@saturn.med.nyu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is netinfo available as source code? I have seen that Apple (NeXt) and xedoc deal with some distributions, but is there a place in which I can get the source and compile it for myself? Thanks Joshua
From: Olof Torgersson <oloft@cs.chalmers.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: /dev/cufa does not exist Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:13:09 +0100 Organization: Dept. of CS, Chalmers, Sweden Message-ID: <34A56F65.19C1@cs.chalmers.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Im trying to replace my old home machine , a next running NS 3.3 with an intel machine running OS 4.2. Installation seems to work fine and I have configured it to have a serial port at COM1. However /dev/cufa does not exist. Whar am I doing wrong, the Intel machine was put together to run Openstep. Olof -- = Olof Torgersson oloft@cs.chalmers.se Department of Computing Science +46 31 772 54 06 G=F0teborg University & Chalmers University of Technology S-412 96 G=96TEBORG, SWEDEN http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~oloft/
From: Pelle Peloton <hketola@sms-usa.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: power switches off immediately after booting Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 18:31:13 -0800 Organization: Network Intensive Message-ID: <34A5B9F0.14B480B@sms-usa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My neXT slab started showing bizarre behaviour. I am running NS 3.3. The booting process looks all normal, last message I see on the monitor is "Reboot complete", then the screen turns to the blueish color you see just before the login panel appears. Rather than showing the login panel, the computer just switches off. I have no clue of what is going on - any ideas? heikki ketola
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: cla_sch@tallawe_lahn_de (Claus Schneeberger) Subject: Re: Swapdisk: external disk partition Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <ELuAyM.83G@tallawe.lahn.de> Sender: news@tallawe.lahn.de (NetNews) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Talladh-A-Bheithe References: <ELMBw7.qM@yves.fdn.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 08:44:46 GMT > How can I do to use second partition as swap disk? > Here is my /etc/fstab: /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd1a /private/vm 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 /dev/sd1b /Users 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 Just make sure there is a filesystem on your partition. All you have to do is to create an empty file (filename swapfile) with eg mkfile and to mount the filesystem as shown above. Good luck, Claus -- \\ Claus Schneeberger \\ \\ 63674 Altenstadt/ Hessen \\ \\ clasch@tallawe.lahn.de \\ ___\\ Member of WiNG __________\\
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <4893882680420@digifix.com> Date: 28 Dec 1997 04:59:39 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <343883285229@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. 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Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. 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At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Tape backup vs. swapfile compression Message-ID: <ELvv9E.CAw@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 05:00:48 GMT Hi, after I turned off the swapfile compression by giving the "nocompress" option to the "prefer"ed swapfile, I got some complaints from tape backup program. My /etc/swaptab is like this: ---- # # /etc/swaptab # # Primary swapfile /private/swap/swapfile lowat=104857600,hiwat=178257920,prefer,nocompress # Secondary swapfile /private/swap2/swapfile lowat=1024,hiwat=87031808,nocompress /private/vm/swapfile lowat=1024 ---- the first two are mounted partitions too small for other use. The backup command is like this: "/etc/(r)dump 0sf 1200000 (remote_host:)/dev/nrxt0 /dev/rsd0a" Then I got complaint: "swent_parseopts: unknown option nocompress, ingoring." I guess this does not hurt the dump process, but I do not know if dump command turned on or off the compression. It seems restore process works just fine. I do want to turn on tape backup compression and do not want to use the second 8mm tape. The tape is supposed to hold 2.5GB/5.0GB. Thanks for any help.
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: black apache suexec? Date: 28 Dec 1997 19:23:48 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <686904$qmh$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <685tdk$gi9$1@news1.mnsinc.com> barry@gslink.com (Barry Bocaner) wrote: >Anyone gotten this to build? I got it working, but I had to make some >pretty major changes to the code. It makes me nervous though, because it >says "DO NOT MODIFY THIS CODE!!!" and I really don't know what I'm doing. Barry, First, you should let people know what version your trying to build on what operating system (NS or OS) and its version too. I am running Apache 1.2b4 on NextStep 3.2 & 3.3 and don't remember any code changes off hand. You may still have to change one or two lines in the make file as per my web discussion of making and installing Apache. See www.bcog.org/~dreely/OpenStep/httpd-servers.html I don't remember if I got my latest version from the Apache group or one of the Next ftp sites. Check both. Darren www.bcog.org P.S. My return e-mail is partially fake due to spammers.
From: Annard Brouwer <annard@sfo.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Lost graphical boot display after upgrading Turbo slab to 4.2 Date: 29 Dec 1997 01:42:43 GMT Organization: The Borg Message-ID: <686v6j$sjv@ramona.sfo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, After I upgraded my Turbo slab to OpenStep 4.2 from scratch, I seem to have lost the grahical boot display to which I'm used to on Intel. I haven't seen OpenStep 4.1/4.2 running on black hardware before, so is this something which was introduced during these versions? Maybe I need to hack the rc.* scripts in order to get my grahical boot display back? Any help appreciated, Annard -- Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. - Annard Brouwer (NeXTmail appreciated)
From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Lost graphical boot display after upgrading Turbo slab to 4.2 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 10:09:38 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <34A70660.9778EE31@bah.com> References: <686v6j$sjv@ramona.sfo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Annard Brouwer <annard@sfo.com> Annard, Are u saying your Turbo is starting in the verbose mode (in Intel, is starting with a '-v')? If so, u need reset one of entries in NeXT Rom... startup the Turbo from the keyboard, press LEFT-ALT + COMMAND + ~ to enter the ROM monitor. at Next> prompt type 'p' try to find that settings... personally I prefer the verbose startup mode... at least I know something is wrong. BTW, how's your Turbo performing under OS4.2? Mine is a bit slow...accesing the HD at times... maybe I have to config my swapfile. Cheers, Tim Annard Brouwer wrote: > Hello, > > After I upgraded my Turbo slab to OpenStep 4.2 from scratch, I seem to have > lost the grahical boot display to which I'm used to on Intel. I haven't seen > OpenStep 4.1/4.2 running on black hardware before, so is this something which > was introduced during these versions? > Maybe I need to hack the rc.* scripts in order to get my grahical boot > display back? > > Any help appreciated, > Annard > -- > Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. > - Annard Brouwer (NeXTmail appreciated)
From: Tom Marchioro <tlm@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Booting NS3.3 with LILO Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 13:03:04 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <34A81008.A9659FBE@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry to bother people with what isprobably a simple question, but after looking at NeXTanswers, the various Linux newsgroups, etc. I still cannot find an answer. What is the proper entry to get LILO to boot up NeXTstep? Here is my configuration hda1 WinNT sda1 Linux sda2 Linux swap sda3 Nextstep 3.3 (the sda entries are all on a single SCSI disc which I partitioned). I use LILO as the book manager and have been unable to get the right information into /etc/lilo.conf to make it recognize and boot the NeXTstep partition. WinNT and Linux work fine, just that pesky sda3 that is giving me grief. Any help is apreciated. E-mail is preferred. Thanks in advance --- Tom
From: max.barel@wanadoo.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Booting NS3.3 with LILO Date: 29 Dec 1997 23:37:19 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Message-ID: <689c7f$k8l$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> References: <34A81008.A9659FBE@u.washington.edu> Tom Marchioro <tlm@u.washington.edu> wrote: >Sorry to bother people with what isprobably a simple question, but after >looking at NeXTanswers, the various Linux newsgroups, etc. I still >cannot find an answer. What is the proper entry to get LILO to boot up >NeXTstep? > >Here is my configuration > >hda1 WinNT >sda1 Linux >sda2 Linux swap >sda3 Nextstep 3.3 > >(the sda entries are all on a single SCSI disc which I partitioned). I >use LILO as the book manager and have been unable to get the right >information into /etc/lilo.conf to make it recognize and boot the >NeXTstep partition. > >WinNT and Linux work fine, just that pesky sda3 that is giving me grief. > From memory the trick is to use "any_d.b" as boot loader. Here is my own lilo.conf : boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b prompt timeout=1200 other=/dev/sdb label=next unsafe loader=/boot/any_d.b other=/dev/hda1 label=win table=/dev/hda image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda2 initrd=/boot/initrd read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux2 root=/dev/sda3 initrd=/boot/initrd read-only -- Mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr : Adresse primaire / primary adress Mailto: Max.Barel@wanadoo.fr : Adresse secondaire / secondary adress (NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome)
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: /dev/cufa does not exist Date: 30 Dec 1997 01:13:52 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <689hsg$ahf$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34A56F65.19C1@cs.chalmers.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: oloft@cs.chalmers.se In <34A56F65.19C1@cs.chalmers.se> Olof Torgersson wrote: > Installation seems to work fine and I have configured it to > have a serial port at COM1. However /dev/cufa does not exist. Use Configure.app's last module (far right). Install two versions of TTY port server and Serial Port TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: sendmail 8.8.8 and BIND 8.1.1 Date: 30 Dec 1997 01:25:20 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <689ii0$ahf$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34A71D30.254AE3B3@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chong_tim@bah.com In <34A71D30.254AE3B3@bah.com> Chong Tim wrote: > Hi there, > > Has there anyone managed compiled sendmail 8.8.8 and also the latest > BIND on NeXTstep/OpenStep? Yup. > Is yes, can u share with me what's the changes need to have it compiled > and running successfully on a NeXT? It compiled fine under 3.3. BIND required these files: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/misc/bind.8.1.1.d.tar.gz I don't remember any changes for sendmail but I didn't do anything funky with it, just the standard. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: chrish@cc.usu.edu (PUNCHOUT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: configureing nameserver & named solved Message-ID: <dmkRyEvBuM9U@cc.usu.edu> Date: 29 Dec 97 15:37:54 MDT Organization: Utah State University I figured out why I was not able to get my primary domain to show up under nslookup. This was a named problem, namely that I had forgotten to modify rc.local so that it would start my domain name service... ACK!!! for those interested in this, the line you need in your rc.local is : # Start Domain Name Service (DNS) if [ -f /etc/named.boot ]; then /usr/etc/named fi Note: that you will have needed to configure named.boot and the contents of named as well. If there is an even better way of doing this, someone let me know. l8rs, Christian -- ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Christian Shank Graduate Student College of Natural Resources Utah State University Logan, Utah 84341 chrish@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: yves (Yves_AKAKPO) Subject: External disc and Swapfile Message-ID: <ELtLq0.2BI@yves.fdn.fr> Keywords: swapfile Sender: yves@yves.fdn.fr (Yves AKAKPO) Organization: Individual Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:39:36 GMT Hi all NS 3.3 and Black slab I ve partitioned my EXTERNAL DISC. I ve mount in file /etc/fstab in directory /User one partition as line /dev/sd1a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2. How can I do to use second partition as swap disk? Thanks in advance for any help Yves
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:23:58 -0500 From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: SimpleNetworkStarter Questions Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-2912972223580001@slip-32-100-63-35.oh.us.ibm.net> References: <34a71b3d.0@concord> Organization: IBM.NET In article <34a71b3d.0@concord>, "Fred Biebesheimer" <gunslngr@televar.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been trying to network my cube and my intel box, and seem to be having > some problems. If anyone has suggestions, I'd appreciate any input. > > I've connected the two machines using twisted pair/RJ-45 connects via a 3com > hub. > I've been able to get the master server (intel) working, and everything > seems to come up fine; I did enable automatic host addition. > > both machines are seen by the hub > > When I boot the cube, the boot sequence halts and gives me the "no response > from configuration server press ^C to continue ...." message. > > I've looked at the documentation and haven't had anything jump out at me, > help! > Here are my suggestions: 1. Manually configure the hosts with the NeXT off. 2. Reboot the Intel. Very important. 3. Hook the NeXT to the net, turn it on, and let it do it's thing. Of course, you will need the ethernet address of the NeXT to do the manual configuration, but everything works easier that way. I was only able to get automatic host addition to work once and I'm not really sure why it worked then. Mitch
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:28:37 -0500 From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Booting NS3.3 with LILO Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-2912972228380001@slip-32-100-63-35.oh.us.ibm.net> References: <34A81008.A9659FBE@u.washington.edu> Organization: IBM.NET In article <34A81008.A9659FBE@u.washington.edu>, Tom Marchioro <tlm@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Sorry to bother people with what isprobably a simple question, but after > looking at NeXTanswers, the various Linux newsgroups, etc. I still > cannot find an answer. What is the proper entry to get LILO to boot up > NeXTstep? > > Here is my configuration > > hda1 WinNT > sda1 Linux > sda2 Linux swap > sda3 Nextstep 3.3 > > (the sda entries are all on a single SCSI disc which I partitioned). I > use LILO as the book manager and have been unable to get the right > information into /etc/lilo.conf to make it recognize and boot the > NeXTstep partition. > > WinNT and Linux work fine, just that pesky sda3 that is giving me grief. > > Any help is apreciated. E-mail is preferred. > > Thanks in advance --- Tom I don't really know the answer to the question, but System Commander will do what you want. As far as I know, so will the NeXT boot manager. Although I have never tried it over two disks, one IDE one SCSI, it does work on my IDE with four partitions NeXTstep OS/2 Win 95 Linux mitch
From: boom@DIESPAMsonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ip masquerading and openstep Date: 26 Dec 1997 13:51:18 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <680com$ieu$1@news2.digex.net> References: <67oge0$9j8$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> <67ml9u$p15$1@digdug.pswtech.com> <67obf3$4b7$1@news2.digex.net> In Re: ip masquerading and openstep comp.sys.next.sysadmin perkins@netmass.com. (Stephen J. Perkins) writes, >>funny thing, i just went through all that last week! i can tell you >>with certainty that IP masq... is not something that NS/OS can do. > > Currently. > >>believe me, we tried everything to coax the OpenStep machines into >>letting us to some kind of fancy routing, but there is just no way, >>mostly because those kernels do not support IP Forwarding. > > The kernel does support IP Forwarding. It is just not turned on by > default. An LKS can be written to support IP Masquerading. > I have been toying with the idea of writing a Network Address > Translation (NAT) server for NS/OS. I will probably actually > work on it for Rhapsody (if I get around to it at all). > > Just my thoughts... > > - Steve > > > > -- > > --- > Stephen J. Perkins > NetMass Communications, e-mail: perkins@netmass.com > NeXT PPP-2.3 info at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ I think that i can speak for many many Next/OpenStep/Rhapsody folks out there when I say that the ability to do real IP Aliasing on these beautiful boxes would be a total godsend! everything else is there, only this feature isn't. We have been using your PPP with no problems for over a year now, so, again, I am sure that I speak for everyone, we would indeed be very appreciative indeed. I would like to add that one nice thing about the BSD version of all this is that it works nicely on any local tcp/ip net, you can run it from a cheapo 486 if you want to, and 'doze boxes can make use of it as well ,since you dont have to do anything but specifiy a default gateway address. another nice thing is that the BSD machine sits there until it gets packets addressed outside the local net ( via the default gateway route), and brings up PPP and redoes the routing table as soon as it does. so, not only is the aliasing happening, but the gateway machine can be left completely unattended, bringing up and taking down the link as needed. Looking forward to the prospect of using NeXT/Apple machines to do this, erik scheirer sonYx, Inc.
From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: External CDROM Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 21:53:52 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <34A3B6EC.65FD155@bah.com> References: <883131483.312147977@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: andrew@vegas.net Andrew, I'm using an Apple external CD600e with my NSTC... if I'm not mistaken, all SCSI CD-ROM will work (I may be wrong...check the FAQ at http://www.peak.org/next/) for NeXT. TC andrew@vegas.net wrote: > What kind of cdroms can i use with my color turbo nextstation? I need to > desperately get a cdrom for mine, and want to know what kind works. Does > anybody have any good sites on the web that sell used external cdroms? > > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet

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