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From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Binding cut/paste to F-keys ? Date: 30 Oct 1997 16:25:16 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <63acdc$48v$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I was wondering if I can use keyboard.app to bind cut (cmd-x) and paste (cmd-v) to F-keys (F1,etc..). The help file did not enlighten me, can someone do that ?! Thanks, --------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier at fsa.ulaval.ca) ---------------------------------------------------------
From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Changing data object associations Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:18:55 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.971018191232.13919A-100000@saul9.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros Predicate: Whose triangle is it? I installed TIFFany II the other day, and it grabbed file opening priorities from OmniImage, meaning that now if I open a, say, .jpeg file from the Worksapce, TIFFany is launched. This is not what I want to happen. I usually want to only view the image, and fast is good, so I want OmniImage to launch instead, as it did before I installed TIFFany. Similarly, .snd files are launching MMP.app (which is great for MPEGs) but I want the standard audio player to play them, as it once did before MMP was installed. I'm fairly certain there's a way to change the file associations back. Reinstalling the applications wouldn't work, I'd suspect. Plus, I tried it with OmniImage, and it didn't work. (: Please respond via email; my news access will be sporadic to non-existant in the next few weeks. Thanks. ok -r
From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 3 beta 2 memory leaks and slowness, possible causes of Date: 30 Oct 1997 22:28:08 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <63b1lo$ins$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <6347og$467$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> William Shipley (wjs@spam.omnigroup.com) wrote: >We've noticed a wide diversity of responses to OmniWeb 3, from "it's much >faster" to "it's much slower and leaks a ton of memory". Now, I'm a big fan of much of Omni's work. We're lucky to have you guys. What *I'd* like to know is why most every beta since 2.5 has gotten _worse_. In terms of usability and particularly *stability*, 2.5 > 2.6 > 2.7 > 3.0 Now, I can understand 3.0 having trouble, as it's a port to a whole 'nuther operating system, but the rest of the path does not bode well for the Omni product development cycle. A little weird. _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int%rauug.mil.wi.us@bofh.int> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.stat.spss,comp.soft-sys.stat.systat,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.software.international,comp.software.licensing,comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,news Subject: cmsg cancel <01bce5bb$977985a0$LocalHost@proart.tba.com.br> Control: cancel <01bce5bb$977985a0$LocalHost@proart.tba.com.br> Date: 31 Oct 1997 04:51:43 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.01bce5bb$977985a0$LocalHost@proart.tba.com.br> Sender: "Creatyve Arts & Cia." <proart@tba.com.br> My From: line has been fudged because many test newsgroup autoresponders respond to control messages. My apologies! Please see the X-Cancelled-By: line for my proper address. Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 3 beta 2 memory leaks and slowness, possible causes of Date: 31 Oct 1997 04:51:59 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <63bo5f$1n4$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <6347og$467$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <63b1lo$ins$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> Sean Luke (seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu) wrote: : Now, I'm a big fan of much of Omni's work. We're lucky to have you guys. Thanks. :) : What *I'd* like to know is why most every beta since 2.5 has gotten _worse_. Note that we haven't had a non-beta release since 2.5 for precisely that reason. Please bear in mind that OmniWeb barely accounts for 1% of our income here at Omni, but has required a far higher percentage of our time and resources. OmniWeb 2.5 was supposed to be the final release of OmniWeb 2 (and it was, in fact, the last one that I worked on, and the starting point for OmniWeb 3). : In terms of usability and particularly *stability*, 2.5 > 2.6 > 2.7 > 3.0 The only reason 2.6 and 2.7 exist is for the benefit of some specific enterprise customers who needed some specific features (and have found those releases stable enough for their needs, although we never considered them quite stable enough to label them non-beta software). The major feature introduced in 2.6 was support for Kanji (multibyte Japanese characters). Unfortunately, that involved doing a lot of non-thread-safe AppKit work, and we just haven't had the resources to spend on OmniWeb 2.6 and 2.7 to track down all the problems introduced during that work. (Instead, we've been focusing our effort on OmniWeb 3.) I did find and fix a number of those problems in OmniWeb 3, (and fortunately OpenStep supports multibyte characters out of the box,) but unfortunately I didn't really have the time to go back and apply all those fixes to OmniWeb 2 (especially as some of the changes involved massive rearchitecting under OpenStep, which would have to be designed differently for the non-OpenStep OmniWeb 2). I do think you'll find OmniWeb 3.0 beta 3 (just released this evening) to be more stable than anything since OmniWeb 2.5. (At least, I hope so!) -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: KPerfMon.app (or the like) for INTEL ? Date: 31 Oct 1997 00:32:59 GMT Organization: Squonk-Net, Loudonville, NY 12211 Message-ID: <63b8vr$64p$1@duke.squonk.net> References: <3457610a.0@news.uni-konstanz.de> dieter@kaluza.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Dieter Ebner) wrote: > Is there a program like KPerfMon.app [which on black hardware > gives a track of the actual use of CPU, MEM, NET] which runs on > NEXTSTEP 3.3. for INTEL? You could try KPerfMon... There are quad-fat versions of KPerfMon around. Inside ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/misc/ There is KPerfMon.1.3.NIHS.bs.tar.gz and KPerfMon.1.3C.bs.tar.gz. Both of those versions should work fine on NS/Intel. The "1.3C" version has some support for colors in the displays, while the "1.3" version has somewhat better help information in it (the guy who added the color support deleted some of the help information). One of these days I'm going to make a version 1.4, which will have both color support and better help information (as well as a few other changes). Another place to find KPerfMon is: ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/utils/KPerfMon_f/ This directory includes four single-architecture archives, as well as the quad-fat archive and the source (for 1.3). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Grumping about the new look (was Re: OS4.2 and a peak at DR) Date: 31 Oct 1997 00:37:10 GMT Organization: Squonk-Net, Loudonville, NY 12211 Message-ID: <63b97m$64p$2@duke.squonk.net> References: <19971026211446102658@ti21a35-0005.dialup.online.no> <6348ie$4gl$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> wjs@spam.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) wrote: > John Kheit writes: > > I think there is a fundamental shift in philosophy for rhapsody. > > Basically mediocrity, compromise, assimilation, habit, tradition, > > and familiarity over functionality and elegance. > > Apple saved OpenStep/Mach. I don't think Mach would have been > a product for another year without Apple's interest. The market > wanted OpenStep/NT, and it was clear that's where NeXT was heading. I also think that Apple's buyout of NeXT was the best thing that could have happened for OpenStep/MachOS. There are a few things I would prefer they did differently, but what we have now is much much much better than what we (NeXTSTEP aficionados) would have had if Apple had not bought NeXT. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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From: Paul Breitzmann <breitzmann.2@osu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: solidThinking Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 05:28:24 -0800 Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <345B2E78.F9FC7C57@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am in need of some assistance from anyone who owns solidThinking 2.5. I recieved a bad burn of the CD, and after several months of trying to get support from gestel, I've just about given up. I have gotten the actual program working, but several of the additional packages are corrupted. Is there any way I can either download a copy of these packages from someone, or pay a nominal fee for a burn of those packages? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Paul Breitzmann
From: stewart@flinet.com (Doug Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Absoft Fortran migration NS3.2=>OS4.1 Date: 31 Oct 1997 18:23:41 GMT Organization: Florida Internet Corporation Message-ID: <63d7ne$172$1@news.flinet.com> I used to run Absoft Fortran compiler under NeXTStep 3.2. Now, I am running OPenStep 4.1 user and developer, but there seems to be a linker/assembler problem. Absoft stopped supporting NeXTStep after 3.2 and, when briefed about my problem suggested that the assembler is probably accessing shared libraries that have different contents under OpenStep 4.1 than NeXTStep 3.2. (I have tried using my old /bin/ld and /bin/as, but no luck). Anyone had a similar experience and perhaps a fix? Thanks for your help. Doug Stewart EDR, Inc stewart@edrinc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <63ct94$4s67@srv060.ssd.fsi.com> From: root@dev1.ssd.fsi.com Date: 31 Oct 1997 15:25:24 GMT Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User Subject: cmsg newgroup comp.sys.next.software y Control: newgroup comp.sys.next.software y Control message generated by Netscape Collabra Server.
From: Long Wong <long.wong@csfb.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PGP for NeXTStep Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 16:33:26 -0500 Organization: CS First Boston Distribution: world Message-ID: <345A4EA5.3FA6BF54@csfb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2BF335B2592A2849F7CB33FF" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2BF335B2592A2849F7CB33FF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have looked at the FAQs, but don't see any reference to PGP on NeXTStep boxes. Does anyone know if there is a PGP version for NeXTStep (preferably v3.3 and v4.2). Thanks, long.wong@csfb.com --------------2BF335B2592A2849F7CB33FF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Long Wong Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Long Wong n: Wong;Long org: CS First Boston adr: Equity Technology;;Eleven Madison Avenue, 3rd floor;New York;NY;10010;USA email;internet: long.wong@csfb.com tel;work: (212()325-2969 tel;fax: (212)-325-8075 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------2BF335B2592A2849F7CB33FF--
From: spamcancel@wupper.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <301097153846@homei.com> Control: cancel <301097153846@homei.com> Date: 31 Oct 1997 22:16:38 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.301097153846@homei.com> Sender: mavin@homei.com Excessive Multi-Posted spam article exceeding a BI of 20 cancelled by spamcancel@wupper.com. From was: mavin@homei.com Subject was: $1000/wk Donating Sperm NNTP-Posting-Host was: host-209-138-57-232.fll.bellsouth.net
From: mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Stupid question I couldn't find an answer to in TFM Date: 22 Oct 1997 17:02:29 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <62lbj5$gc8$2@news2.digex.net> How do you set up applications to automagically start at login under NS 3.3? Preferences.app does this, but I'd like some other stuff (like backspace.app, maybe) to do it also, and I couldn't find it (read: probably missed it) in the online docs. -- *mikelea@access.digex.net* "imperious, angry, furious, extreme in all things, with a disturbance in the moral imagination unlike any the world has ever known-there you have me in a nutshell: and one more thing, kill me or take me as I am, because I will not change." -de Sade
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP for NeXTStep Date: 1 Nov 1997 01:05:21 GMT Organization: none Distribution: world Message-ID: <63dv8h$h9n$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <345A4EA5.3FA6BF54@csfb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: long.wong@csfb.com In <345A4EA5.3FA6BF54@csfb.com> Long Wong wrote: > I have looked at the FAQs, but don't see any reference to PGP on > NeXTStep boxes. First, please go read this: http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html It will tell you which group (note the singular) you should post to when you have a question. > Does anyone know if there is a PGP version for NeXTStep (preferably v3.3 > and v4.2). PGP does compile, at least the last time I tried, which was some time ago. At least, it should compile under 3.3... I wouldn't guess 4.x would work. You'll have to get it from the MIT site, as no one else in the US can redistribute it, thanks to the various three letter organizations of the gov't. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: walterrich@mindspring.com (Walter Rich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Complete Newbie Question - Installing Pkgs... Date: 1 Nov 1997 03:36:48 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <63e84g$dhv@camel15.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have been runnng NeXT 3.3 for only a few days...on one partition, the other partition is Win95. Under Win95 I grabbed some updated patch files and a few other files from the PEAK website. What do I do next? The first thing I noticed was that NeXT didn't see long character names on my Win95 file system. Do I copy those files into my Usr/local/bin directory? Can I do this with the GUI or do I need to open up a command line window? Should I write the complete names of the files...then move them into Next, then rename them with the complete names before telling Next to extract and install the PKG files? Again, I'm new to NeXT and haven't been afforded the experience of sys admin duties before. I have used UNIX...but I'm certainly not an experienced techie in this arena. I would appreciate any help... Walter walterrich@mindspring.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What beta means (was Re: * Is Rhapsody supposed to come with a Web Browser?) From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:06:50 -0500 Message-ID: <1997102810061723958230N@roxboro-161.interpath.net> References: <62q8o9$jqv@cnj.digex.net> <62qbah$bnh$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <62ql7j$erl$1@brnws01.ne.mediaone.net> <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <1997102711145532087660N@roxboro-175.interpath.net> <633vs5$ph$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> Organization: phenix@interpath.com ?'D1cB]L9V=\OS(\8S,5 Ken Case <kc@criamon.omnigroup.com> wrote: ] John Moreno (phenix@interpath.com) wrote: ] : One further note - if you are in the "add features" stage and you ] : expect to add major features still, then this should properly be ] : called ALPHA software instead - as alpha software is not feature ] : complete and beta is (or should be). ] ] We use the Hacker's "Jargon" dictionary definition of beta. ] (Actually, I just now guessed that it'd be in there, we've simply ] always used it. And an interesting side note is that our OmniWeb 1.0 ] betas were released long before either Netscape or IE existed.) ] ] Quoting from the Jargon file: ] ] beta /bay't*/, /be't*/ or (Commonwealth) /bee't*/ n. ] ] 1. In the Real World, software often goes through two stages ] of testing: Alpha (in-house) and Beta (out-house?). ] Software is said to be `in beta'. ] ] 2. Anything that is new and experimental is in beta. "His ] girlfriend is in beta means that he is still testing for ] compatibility and reserving judgment. ] ] 3. Beta software is notoriously buggy, so `in beta' connotes ] flakiness. ] ] I believe the OmniWeb 3 beta releases fit all three points. And while ] I appreciate that some people might have other expectations of what ] beta software might mean, I believe the disclaimer at the top of our ] beta announcements, our web page, and our README made the quality of ] the software perfectly clear: ] ] This is an early beta release of OmniWeb 3. There are still ] many bugs, it is still very slow, and there are still many ] features which we have not yet implemented. ] ] I'm really not sure what more we could have said (other than to put ] that entire note in the filename instead of just in the README, ] announcements, and web page). A list of known bugs is always good - especially with beta software, after all you are asking people to help you find new bugs. Why should they waste their time and yours by tracking down and reporting known bugs. In any case it's not a problem for me, I don't have a machine that can run Rhapsody. But it does make more sense to me for alpha to mean that you are going to be adding or (possibly) removing features to the program. Beta to mean that WHAT it is going to do has been decided and all that is left is to get it to work right. Especially since the idea of out-house has changed so much. ] (By the way, we did have an alpha release of OmniWeb 3, which we ] demonstrated at MacWorld Boston this year, and released to some ] individuals at Apple.) ] ] All that said, beta 3 (which I'll probably release Wednesday) is a lot ] more stable than beta 2. (But then, what else would you expect?) That it be absolutely rock solid and feature complete? :) -- John Moreno
From: Dennis Michl <mosh@kino.ch> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 00:55:17 GMT Subject: Re: PGP for NeXTStep Message-ID: <971102015517.371AAFxI.mosh@darmok> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Sender: mosh@kino.ch Keywords: PGP Distribution: world Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [this goes only to comp.sys.next.software, I didn't want to Xpost this] Long, > Does anyone know if there is a PGP version for NeXTStep (preferably v3.3 > and v4.2). get the source from the ftp://ftp.pgp.net/pub/pgp/unix directory and compile it on your NeXT! The 2.6.2 sources compile without problems, for the 2.6.3 sources there is a patch available. Inspectors/Services/Bundles can be found in ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/next/Mail/ bundles/EnhanceMail.2.0b6.NIHS.bs.tar.gz bundles/CryptorBundle.1.3.NIHS.b.tar.gz inspectors/NXPGP.1.1.2.NIHS.b.tar.gz programs/PGPService.d.tar.gz programs/PGP-NeXTmail.d.tar.gz Cheers MoSH __ Dennis Michl / mosh@kino.ch (NeXTMail encouraged!) PGP fingerprint: 5A9F 420F 0200 EADB 1C8D 72EC 6D8E 82D2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: next iQEVAwUBNFvPWh6WZntgURpdAQFN9Qf+O+xinRv9YYSk/YJYCSDqyjEDPeS+CiQf 2gU8ND51HL2z2OiayQq/A0nzSH3h3b4R0Di0GZind0P9aI87JBX4Ig6ezleQVm6e Qx+F+IfBy9L4qxZuPNzCo6CDva7gay20YGRTh5t3xqBz8m84wv5BO4NCicAt8GWQ /uYtmIBdsY1HgWOm7YjFLV30BVLxIskdrRiy7Rd314jXcPqphfv4wXSRNabvzpYB dSkIjwmbKne2OZoFVUKufMx3lwoesBUvf3egu9aM7B2Uebp9oMMLPXsBT5DXZzp3 NS7HwnPNIdDjcupQVmj1bzNDh8wlMc4ww7BZXsrrwQauvQp2UZde9A== =Z1+d -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19971102.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19971023.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19971016.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 02 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0100 Organization: Private System, London SW19, UK Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Sep-02 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-Oct-22 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets can be found on the Internet: <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: root@dev1.ssd.fsi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg newgroup comp.sys.next.software y Control: newgroup comp.sys.next.software y Date: 31 Oct 1997 15:25:24 GMT Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User Message-ID: <63f89p$kkb$103@glitnir.ifi.uio.no> Control message generated by Netscape Collabra Server.
From: arlen@pacbell.net (Arlen Sanders) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rhapsody - Remote X Type Graphic Login Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 20:14:44 -0800 Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Message-ID: <arlen-0111972014440001@ppp-207-104-64-59.psdn11.pacbell.net> Has anybody done a Remote X Type Graphic Login with Rhapsody DR1? I can telnet in, but I don't think it's possible to do X. It's probably coming with the next release. Anybody got any thoughts or answers? Arlen
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <13622877838422@digifix.com> Date: 2 Nov 1997 04:46:00 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <398878446823@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Complete Newbie Question - Installing Pkgs... Date: 1 Nov 1997 18:18:09 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <63frp1$9s9$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <63e84g$dhv@camel15.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: walterrich@mindspring.com In <63e84g$dhv@camel15.mindspring.com> Walter Rich wrote: > What do I do next? The first thing I noticed was that NeXT didn't see long > character names on my Win95 file system. If they are files which end in '.tar.gz' then goto Win95 and renamed them to something that fits the 8.3 and make the '3' be 'tgz' Then goto NS and copy them > Do I copy those files into my Usr/local/bin directory? Can I do this with the > GUI or do I need to open up a command line window? Should I write the complete > names of the files...then move them into Next, then rename them with the > complete names before telling Next to extract and install the PKG files? If they are .tar.gz or .tgz files do you know how to unarchive them? If they are 'pkg' files they will install themselves where the author told them to. For other files you have to decide or ask us and tell us what they are exactly. Apps usually goto into ~/Apps or /LocalApps (if you want everyone to be able to access them). TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
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From: Wonseok Baek <wbaek01@utopia.poly.edu> Subject: Needed:Latest DayDream software! Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:01:28 -0600 Message-ID: <878107753.19813@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Deja News Posting Service Hi, Recently I got the DayDream but its sofrware kernel version is 1.43. I saw on some article that the latest kernel version is 2.1.1. So I need the latest sofrware, is there anybody can help me ? Thanks in advance. p.s. My DayDream Rombox version is 1.43, is the latest version? If not, there is any functional difference? Wonseok Baek -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Needed:Latest DayDream software! Date: 29 Oct 1997 00:52:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <636pv0$nbr@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <878107753.19813@dejanews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: wbaek01@utopia.poly.edu In <878107753.19813@dejanews.com> Wonseok Baek wrote: > Hi, > > Recently I got the DayDream but its sofrware kernel version is 1.43. > I saw on some article that the latest kernel version is 2.1.1. > So I need the latest sofrware, is there anybody can help me ? > Thanks in advance. > > p.s. My DayDream Rombox version is 1.43, is the latest version? > If not, there is any functional difference? Now, isn't that wierd? My ROM box is ver 1.31, and my kernel is 2.11 Frankly I don't know what the differences are, but I heard some SCSI incompatibility issues were addressed in the later release (2.11). -- //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is it just me, or does NEXTIME suck? Date: 2 Nov 1997 06:52:18 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <63h7v2$7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OS 4.1/Mach/Intel, P-133 with 64 ram and 4WRam, and a Soundblaster card. I've downloaded 2 QT movies from www.loewstheatres.com One is smaller, and plays well. The other is larger and the sound jumps in and out consistently. Specs SMALLER: LARGER Duration 2m21s07f 2m21s98f Size 7.2 megs 17.2 megs Format QuickTime same Compression CinePak same Avg Data Rate 52.1 kb/s 124.2 kb/s Avg Frame Rate 10 12 Natural Size 160 x 120 240 x 180 Sound Channels Stereo same Sound Compres. none same This happens quite a bit with QT movies actually... I'm not sure what the problem is. It is QT? Something in my hardware? What? TjL ps -- I can't use the arrow keys to navigate in the 'open' panel either.... -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.camelot.de> Subject: 8bit telnet/Terminal.app Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xen50jwwb.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> Sender: tm@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede) Organization: @heism (a non-prophet organization) Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 18:23:48 GMT Is there a way to enter and see 8 bit characters when using Terminal.app or when telnetting into my NeXT Station? Who is to blame? Is it tcsh (which claims to be 8 bit clean: tcsh 6.06.00 [...] options 8b,nls,dl,rh). Is it my tty's setting? Is there any way to achieve better 8 bitlyness? Thanks for any pointers. Markus Gloede -- "no.spam@burrow.camelot.de" is a working address. When posting a followup, mailing a courtesy copy is appreciated, provided it is clearly marked as such.
From: reed@im.wustl.edu (Thomas Reed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Internet software for NeXT Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 15:29:07 -0600 Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Message-ID: <reed-0111971529070001@onc-isdn-35.wustl.edu> My mother has a NeXT machine at home that she wants to get Internet access from. I'm trying to find her some basic software (PPP, e-mail, & web browser) to use for this purpose. Anyone know where I can find anything? Thanks in advance!
From: Wassim M Jabi <jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: Converting Fonts *FROM* NeXT Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 18:37:20 -0500 Organization: University At Buffalo Message-ID: <345BBD30.73E5@writeme.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi: I have a collection of Adobe Type 1 Fonts for NeXTSTEP (Garamond, Gill Sans, Tekton etc). I would like to convert them for use on either a Mac or with Windows NT. Is there a way to do that? Please e-mail me at wj@writeme.com if you know how. Thank you.
From: Jay <nin@goodnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Can't Boot ColorStation 25/NS 3.3 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 16:22:45 -0700 Organization: GoodNet Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971101161706.24443B-100000@goodguy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am sure there is a quick and easy way to fix this...but I am at a loss. I am using (Black Hardware) a NeXT ColorStation 25 running NeXTStep 3.3. I have my Linux box acting as a NFS server for the NeXT station (both on a local 192.168.x.x network). My problem is that (stupid me :) I decided to do some 'tinkering' with the network settings on the NeXT, and now it will not boot at all. It just hangs at the "Starting YP Services" portion of boot-up. Is there a way to by-pass networking during boot-up so that I can correct the problem? Thanks... ~Jay - J a y J a c o b s o n - ----------------------- - Network Engineer, ISP -- 602.303.9500 -- 888.Good.Net - jay@good.net -- www.goodnet.com/~nin
From: stanj@caffeineSoft.com (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HP1554A DDS-3 on NeXTSTEP Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 2 Nov 1997 06:20:16 GMT Organization: Caffeine Software Message-ID: <63h630$5d4$1@usenet48.supernews.com> Hello, I just purchased the HP-1554A DDS-3 DAT drive. It works fine with my Intel 4.2 system, but 3.3 doesn't recognize it. When the system boots (both Cube and Intel), the drive is recognized in the SCSI init sequence, but no /dev/nrst0 device is installed. Hence, apps such as SafetyNet or tar fail to see the drive. On the underside of the drive is a series of dip-switches which should configure it to a variety of Unix systems; since I have a total of 256 possible combinations I thought to ask whether someone had any luck using this device on 3.3. Thanks, all help is appreciated. - Stan --- Stan Jirman Caffeine Software NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.com Caffeine Software: http://www.caffeineSoft.com
From: dieter@kaluza.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Dieter Ebner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: KPerfMon.app (or the like) for INTEL ? Keywords: KPerfMon.app INTEL Distribution: world Message-ID: <3457610a.0@news.uni-konstanz.de> Date: 29 Oct 97 16:15:06 GMT Organization: University of Constance, Germany Is there a program like KPerfMon.app [which on black hardware gives a track of the actual use of CPU, MEM, NET] which runs on NEXTSTEP 3.3. for INTEL? Dieter -- Dr. Dieter Ebner, Physics Department, University of Konstanz, (My UNI-internal box: M678), D-78457 KONSTANZ (Germany) (no street-name or local box number required) Tel: +49/7531/88-3785, Fax: +49/7531/88-3195 e-mail (MIME accepted): Dieter.Ebner@uni-konstanz.de
From: dieter@kaluza.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Dieter Ebner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: co-Xist Installation problems Keywords: co-Xist X11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <34576385.0@news.uni-konstanz.de> Date: 29 Oct 97 16:25:41 GMT Organization: University of Constance, Germany While I have installed co_Xist 3.3 several times sucessfully on NEXTSTEP 3.3 computers, including on Pentiums, this time I have the following problem: Since I have attempted before, I first removed the old installation with co-Xist.Linker and destroyed /NextLibrary/Receipts/co-Xist.min.pkg with Installer, as I did several times before. To make sure it is not a problem from previous applications I made a restart on the machine [whose name is jeans]. Then I did again the co-Xist installation. On the console I received the messages: jeans:syslog:attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler last message repeated 31 times. [It is possible that I got that message also in my previous successful installations.] But this time, while testing the installation, e.g. in a Terminal with /LocalApps/co-Xist.app/co-Xist the terminal terminated with: 343 Floating exception. While testing from Workspace by double-clicking on /LocalApps/co-Xist.app that application stops immediately without any error message. Could you help me? Dieter -- Dr. Dieter Ebner, Physics Department, University of Konstanz, (My UNI-internal box: M678), D-78457 KONSTANZ (Germany) (no street-name or local box number required) Tel: +49/7531/88-3785, Fax: +49/7531/88-3195 e-mail (MIME accepted): Dieter.Ebner@uni-konstanz.de
From: "George B. Ameer" <george1@ana.porsa.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How can I 'Think Different(-ly)? when I can't even watch the QuickTime? Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:09:19 -0800 Message-ID: <637u94$nfa@news0-alterdial.uu.net> References: <636pl7$45t$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Yeah, you would think Apple would make at least this work with NeXTTIME. I have tried to download and play this twice only to get corrupt file errors. Timothy J. Luoma wrote in message <636pl7$45t$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>... > >I tried to d/l the 'think different' commercial from Apple.com and when I >went to open it in QT I got a panel saying; > > > File ad1.mov uses a missing or unusable ima4 decompressor. > >And console said: > >Oct 29 00:03:25 NEXTIME[15189] Sound Media: File ad1.mov uses a missing or >unusable ima4 decompressor. (0) > >Anyone know how to get this to work with QT under OpenStep? > >TjL
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From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet software for NeXT Date: 2 Nov 1997 16:28:36 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <63i9nk$t44$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <reed-0111971529070001@onc-isdn-35.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: reed@im.wustl.edu In <reed-0111971529070001@onc-isdn-35.wustl.edu> Thomas Reed wrote: > My mother has a NeXT machine at home that she wants to get Internet access > from. I'm trying to find her some basic software (PPP, e-mail, & web > browser) to use for this purpose. Anyone know where I can find anything? > > Thanks in advance! > Ok, here are some (from the NEXTSTEP/Openstep Resources on the Net) Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep The first 2 are the main sites to go to. They have large archive of everything you might need, including ppp-package (additionally I'd get GateKeeper, which manages ppp-connection) Email ? What do you need ? I consider Mail.app as very comfortable...;-) I guess you mean a pop-client...so, get PopOver, that worked FINE with me. OmniWeb is THE webbrowser on the NEXTSTEP platform, os don't forget that neither... You might find yourself having trouble configuring sendmail to run with a temporary ppp-connection. There is a package somewhere describing how to do it with the m4-package (very useful). I can't remember its name, but if you can't find it I'll look harder for it. But it should be somewhere on the given sites.. So, good luck P.S.:I didn't know ANYTHING about sendmail, ppp etc neither, and I got it to work. So, don't despair. -- Martin Klocke Mail:Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de Boxgraben 110 52064 Aachen Tel. +49-241-49378 NeXTMail and MIME welcome !!
From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is it just me, or does NEXTIME suck? Date: 2 Nov 1997 16:36:53 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <63ia75$t44$2@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <63h7v2$7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nospam@all.please In <63h7v2$7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > OS 4.1/Mach/Intel, P-133 with 64 ram and 4WRam, and a Soundblaster card. > The other is larger and the sound jumps in and out consistently. > This happens quite a bit with QT movies actually... I'm not sure what the > problem is. > It is QT? Something in my hardware? What? Good questions... I thought it was my old color turbo slab being responsible for the switching sound effect...I thought it couldn't handle the load. I have 80MB RAM, but that doesn't help. So, it can't be your hardware, as I face the same problems with a next. Then, there are certain .mov files which don't play AT ALL or without sounds (if I'm lucky). You indicated that in an earlier post as well. As the ones that have problems are more recent ones, and NEXTIME is pretty old considering that QT changed a lot with the years, I guess that some newer implementations just haven't been made. If anyone is out there who doesn't have to guess but has the knowledge to give some insight, I'd be very glad... Adios, Martin -- Martin Klocke Mail:Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de Boxgraben 110 52064 Aachen Tel. +49-241-49378 NeXTMail and MIME welcome !!
From: vmacswain@upei.ca (Virginia MacSwain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printer Repair Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:48:20 UNDEFINED Organization: Psychology Department, University of PEI Message-ID: <vmacswain.3.006CBA82@upei.ca> Keywords: repair, printer, monitor Does anyone know where I can send a Next printer and color monitor for repairs. I live in Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island and know of no place near here where I can get these fixed. If you know of anyplace where I can get these items fixed, please e-mail me vmacswain@upei.ca
From: Frederic Foucault <frederic@precipice.com> Subject: So sad: RadicalNews doesn't connect anymore. Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 12:41:05 -0600 Message-ID: <878495764.12148@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Deja News Posting Service Hi, I cannot connect RadicalNews 0.9.2 beta to the News.??? I installed it from the root to users/fred/apps.I'm wondering whether it's a privilege problem or need to grep process and kill it ? If yes, I can I do that through Terminal ? Thanks for your help, Sincerely, Frederic Foucault -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: spamcancel@wupper.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <021197141809@test.com> Control: cancel <021197141809@test.com> Date: 02 Nov 1997 19:19:11 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.021197141809@test.com> Sender: choka@test.com Excessive Multi-Posted spam article exceeding a BI of 20 cancelled by spamcancel@wupper.com. From was: choka@test.com Subject was: $1000/wk Donating Sperm NNTP-Posting-Host was: host-209-138-58-30.fll.bellsouth.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Followup-To: References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971101161706.24443B-100000@goodguy> From: robert@iamexwi.unibe.ch (Philippe Robert) Organization: Dept. of CS, University of Berne, Switzerland Subject: Re: Can't Boot ColorStation 25/NS 3.3 Summary: Message-ID: <345df7b8.0@news.unibe.ch> Date: 3 Nov 97 16:11:36 GMT In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.971101161706.24443B-100000@goodguy>, Jay <nin@goodnet.com> writes: > > I am sure there is a quick and easy way to fix this...but I am at a loss. > I am using (Black Hardware) a NeXT ColorStation 25 running NeXTStep 3.3. > I have my Linux box acting as a NFS server for the NeXT station (both on a > local 192.168.x.x network). My problem is that (stupid me :) I decided to > do some 'tinkering' with the network settings on the NeXT, and now it will > not boot at all. It just hangs at the "Starting YP Services" portion of > boot-up. Is there a way to by-pass networking during boot-up so that I > can correct the problem? Thanks... Boot the machine 'local', and then, make the changes.... sweet dreams, Phil -- Philippe C.D. Robert - CS Student @ University of Bern Webmaster of the NiCE - Swiss NeXT User Group NeXTmail & MIME are welcome @ Philippe.Robert@nice.ch http://www.nice.ch/~phip/
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is it just me, or does NEXTIME suck? Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 02:33:34 -0800 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <345C5699.70E3@earthlink.net> References: <63h7v2$7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > The other is larger and the sound jumps in and out consistently. > This happens quite a bit with QT movies actually... I'm not sure what the > problem is. In my experience with NeXTime the same thing would always occur. Unless you are using actual NeXTime files (I believe they use wavelet compression) the sound always seems to drop out on Quicktimes . Rhapsody and true QT should take care of this. STEVE K.
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 8bit telnet/Terminal.app Date: 3 Nov 1997 17:12:50 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <63l0mi$c3n$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <7xen50jwwb.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.camelot.de> wrote: > Is there a way to enter and see 8 bit characters when using > Terminal.app or when telnetting into my NeXT Station? For entering, sure-- check out the VT100 preferences (Cmd-3), and select the "Alternate key sets high bit" radio button. The display side is a little more complex since the standard fonts supplied with NEXTSTEP don't provide the high-bit VT100 graphics set. I think you'd need a third-party solution like Cables, which provides a more thorough VTxxx terminal emulation. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is it just me, or does NEXTIME suck? Date: 2 Nov 1997 21:21:41 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <63iqt5$qs8$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <63h7v2$7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <345C5699.70E3@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <345C5699.70E3@earthlink.net> Steve Kellener wrote: > > In my experience with NeXTime the same thing would always occur. Unless > you are using actual NeXTime files (I believe they use wavelet > compression) the sound always seems to drop out on Quicktimes . > > Rhapsody and true QT should take care of this. (rhetorically) Great, but what should I do for the next year or so? Assuming that my Intel hardware is supported, and that Rhapsody/Intel actually takes off.... TjL, getting more & more jaded by the day.... -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: drifterusa@sprintmail.com (John Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: OS4.2 and a peak at DR Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:35:40 -0500 Organization: KAOS Message-ID: <19971103133540235042@sdn-ts-003txhousp11.dialsprint.net> References: <62ofcf$bjp$1@news1.ucsd.edu> <344fd665.0@206.25.228.5> John Kheit wrote, among other things: > THIS IS NOT YOUR KEITH OHLFS UI. So where is Keith Ohlfs these days anyway, and why did he leave NeXT? Also, was he chiefly responsible for the look of the icons or was he in charge of the whole UI or what? I've heard the name often enough, I figured I may as well find out something about the guy. -- John Bauer <remove NOT from email address above>
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anti-spam software Date: 3 Nov 1997 19:31:39 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <63l8qr$9as$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greetings, I was wondering if someone wrote a service for mail.app to automate the "reply with remove in the subject and delete message and add author to procmailrc filter" task that I have come to perform several times each morning. Thanks, --------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier --------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: OS4.2 and a peak at DR Date: 3 Nov 1997 19:52:27 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <63la1r$mus@shelob.afs.com> References: <19971103133540235042@sdn-ts-003txhousp11.dialsprint.net> John Bauer writes > So where is Keith Ohlfs these days anyway, and why did he leave NeXT? Last known address was WebTV, where he designed that UI. > Also, was he chiefly responsible for the look of the icons or was he in > charge of the whole UI or what? I've heard the name often enough, I > figured I may as well find out something about the guy. Icons, for sure. Also a Courier font adaptation that bears his name and is used for most fixed-width text. As to the rest of the UI, I believe the semantics were worked out before he got there. In general, Keith is given credit for the overall polish of NEXTSTEP, which is defined more by the drawing code and icons than the interoperation of the parts. Another excellent electronic artist who worked on NEXTSTEP applications is Jay Capela, whose company is called "Bitwise." He did all of the work on the later releases of Lighthouse's applications. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "We're in the land of the blind, Visionary Ophthalmologist | selling working eyeballs, and they Anderson Financial Systems | balk at the choice of color." -- Tony greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | Lovell, on Mac user reactions to NeXT
From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP for NeXTStep Date: 2 Nov 1997 22:32:09 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <63iv19$d6o$2@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <971102015517.371AAFxI.mosh@darmok> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mosh@kino.ch In <971102015517.371AAFxI.mosh@darmok> Dennis Michl wrote: > it on your NeXT! The 2.6.2 sources compile without problems, for the 2.6.3 > sources there is a patch available. Yes, but what does it take to compile PGP 5.0? I can't get that to make on my m68k NS 3.3 system. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: max@maxgraphic.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3/PPP help Date: 3 Nov 1997 05:24:44 GMT Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <max-0211972126230001@blv-pm110-ip10.halcyon.com> I'm attempting to prepare a mono NeXTstation non-turbo for use by my mother, who isn't going to want to do things the jury-rigged way I have been. I've got PPP running on it, but mail doesn't work, and PPP isn't quite working right - I get errors in GateKeeper's diagnostic log. But I use terminal to telnet to my shell account and use elm there. So, first, I replaced my hostconfig and netinfo directory with the templates. I noticed after this that I was no longer prompted to log in. This is good, but now how do I log in as root, which is necessary to reinstall GateKeeper? I noticed mention of "single-user mode" in the FAQ, but this seems different than the no-login-screen mode I'm currently in. So, I'd appreciate suggestions on how to make this slab as simple as possible to use. TIA. Please e-mail too. -- Max Pinton, max@maxgraphic.com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: piers@ilink.de (Piers Uso Walter) Subject: Re: Is it just me, or does NEXTIME suck? Sender: news@charly.mediahaus.de (News System) Organization: Mediahaus Stroebel in Duesseldorf (Germany) Message-ID: <EJ1qxr.900@charly.mediahaus.de> References: <345C5699.70E3@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 01:32:15 GMT Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> writes > Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > The other is larger and the sound jumps in and out consistently. > > This happens quite a bit with QT movies actually... I'm not sure > > what the problem is. > > In my experience with NeXTime the same thing would always occur. > Unless you are using actual NeXTime files (I believe they use wavelet > compression) the sound always seems to drop out on Quicktimes . > > Rhapsody and true QT should take care of this. *Always* is a little bit too drastic, judging from my experience. I find about 50% of the Quicktime movies I download to work with Nexttime (including sound playback), about 45% won't play the sound (either with or without displaying one of various error messages), and about 5% won't play at all. Not very satisfying but still way better than "the sound always seems to drop out on Quicktimes". -- "I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =- Piers Uso Walter - ilink GmbH <piers@ilink.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.camelot.de> Subject: Re: Anti-spam software Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xg1pdlfae.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> To: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Sender: tm@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede) Organization: @heism (a non-prophet organization) References: <63l8qr$9as$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:38:01 GMT >>>>> "AG" == Antoine Gautier <antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca> writes: AG> Greetings, I was wondering if someone wrote a service for AG> mail.app to automate the "reply with remove in the subject and AG> delete message and add author to procmailrc filter" task that AG> I have come to perform several times each morning. I think this is no task for a service. You can achieve the same result automatically by writing an intelligent procmail recipe - besides, a reply with "remove" doesn't remove you from any list it rather tells the sender of UCEs that your address is valid. There's quite a few procmail anti-UCE recipes out there (eg. spambnc.tar.Z, sorry I don't recall where I found it), take a look at them. Here's what I do (I dont use sophisticated recipes): everything received for no.spam is a reaction to a Usenet post - if it has no References, In-Reply-To or similar header it is very likely to be UCE and gets sorted accordingly. (Using an address such as no.spam has the (proven) side effect that some UCE mailers drop them.) hth, Markus Gloede -- "no.spam@burrow.camelot.de" is a working address. When posting a followup, mailing a courtesy copy is appreciated, provided it is clearly marked as such.
From: isor@ripco.com (chiroptera) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: encircle and NS 3.2 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 06:56:40 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <345d7563.3483612@news.enteract.com> has anyone run encicle (irc client) out of NS 3.2? is so what do i need to do to get it to "run?" -eric
From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody - Remote X Type Graphic Login Date: 3 Nov 1997 08:12:58 GMT Organization: GMD-FOKUS Message-ID: <63k12a$a1g@stern.fokus.gmd.de> References: <arlen-0111972014440001@ppp-207-104-64-59.psdn11.pacbell.net> Arlen Sanders writes > Has anybody done a Remote X Type Graphic Login with Rhapsody DR1? I can > telnet in, but I don't think it's possible to do X. It's probably coming > with the next release. Anybody got any thoughts or answers? Rhapsody aka UNIX is *not* X! There are some (commercial) X clients for NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP and they will possibly be ported to Rhapsody. Peek at 'www.intuisys.com' e.g. Robert -- -- --- - .-. -- -- --- / \ ---- Robert Fischer .-. / \ --- .-. __o .-. @ / \ / \ / \ _`\<,_ / \ GMD-Fokus / \ / \ / \ (*)/ (*) / `-------------- / `---' `-' `-----------'
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PGP for NeXTStep Date: 3 Nov 1997 13:51:03 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <63kks7$1jh$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <345A4EA5.3FA6BF54@csfb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: long.wong@csfb.com In <345A4EA5.3FA6BF54@csfb.com> Long Wong wrote: > I have looked at the FAQs, but don't see any reference to PGP on > NeXTStep boxes. I find pgp 2.6.3i works well for me under NS 3.3 or OS 4.2. Of course, being in the States, you'll need to use the USA version. Just grab the latest version from the usual place you would get PGP sources from (pgp.mit.edu I think) and compile and install it. pgp will run just fine as a command line program. There aren't that many NeXT apps. that can make use of PGP directly: the EnhanceMail bundle being the big exception. There's also a PGP.app which exists mostly to provide a service menu item. Cheers, Matthew [Posted and mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP1554A DDS-3 on NeXTSTEP Date: 3 Nov 1997 14:28:07 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <63kn1n$1jh$2@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <63h630$5d4$1@usenet48.supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: stanj@caffeineSoft.com In <63h630$5d4$1@usenet48.supernews.com> Stan Jirman wrote: > I just purchased the HP-1554A DDS-3 DAT drive. It works fine with my Intel > 4.2 system, but 3.3 doesn't recognize it. When the system boots (both Cube > and Intel), the drive is recognized in the SCSI init sequence, but no > /dev/nrst0 device is installed. Hence, apps such as SafetyNet or tar fail to > see the drive. Yup. We've got one of them. I did get it working on NS 3.3 black plus with SafetyNet as well, although I never could get it to write data at anything like the rate claimed in the docs. from HP. Remember for intel, you're going to have to add the SCSITape driver: under 4.2 or if you use the latest drivers with 3.3, it goes under the `SCSI' heading in Configure.app, but with the 3.3 drivers from the CD Rom, it goes in `Miscellaneous' category... Try `/etc/MAKEDEV st0' to create the required device files on black hardware. To get the drive working with SafetyNet, you have to change one of the files inside SafetyNet's app wrapper so that it can recognise the drive: I think it's SafetyNet.app/DAT.dim/DATDeviceList where you add a line saying: C1537A;0D96 where the C1537A part of the string is how the drive identifies itself on the SCSI bus (this could be different depending on precisely what drive you have) and the 0D96 part is a set of flags describing the drive's capabilities to SafetyNet. > On the underside of the drive is a series of dip-switches which should > configure it to a variety of Unix systems; since I have a total of 256 > possible combinations I thought to ask whether someone had any luck using > this device on 3.3. Yeah --- I never could get the switch combinations worked out. That's why the drive is connected to our Solaris 2.5 box at the moment, and doing our backups very well from there. The precise switch settings seem to have a very big effect on how fast the drive will write data. For instance, it was taking 4 days to do a simple incremental backup of a few machines which should have only taken a couple of hours according to the docs. Matthew [Posted and Mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: rkurhajetz@aol.com (Rkurhajetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nextstep Apps : is Xanthus still around ? Date: 3 Nov 1997 23:05:05 GMT Message-ID: <19971103230500.SAA23389@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Hi, Came across a batch of apps on the "peanuts" server from Xanthus Software - they install without a hitch - but they aren't really usable without a license and Xanthus doesn't since to exist anymore - does anyone have more info on their status ? many thanks in advance ;-) Bob K. --
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anti-spam software Date: 3 Nov 1997 23:25:02 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <63lmge$53o$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <63l8qr$9as$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca In <63l8qr$9as$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Antoine Gautier wrote: > Greetings, > > I was wondering if someone wrote a service for mail.app to automate the > "reply with remove in the subject and delete message and add author to > procmailrc filter" task that I have come to perform several times each > morning. The best thing to do is filter the incoming messages out of your INBOX. Replying to those requests only tells the damn spammers that your email address is valid. They don't actually remove your name... In fact they sell it to other spammers. You can use procmail & appnmail (from the mailapp-utilities) to filter messages based on the Headers or the Body. There's a new version of procmail at ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/procmail.3.11pre7.NIHS.b.pkg.tar.gz and mailapp-utils are at ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/mailapp-utilities.2.0.NIHS.bs.tar.gz and there's a starter page at: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/procmail.html The procmail mailing list is the best place to get help from... do 'procmail -v' to get the address TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Gerold Rupprecht <geroldr@webshuttle.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Apps : is Xanthus still around ? Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 14:24:00 +0100 Organization: EUnet AG Message-ID: <345F21F0.1EA8@webshuttle.ch> References: <19971103230500.SAA23389@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rkurhajetz wrote: > > Hi, > > Came across a batch of apps on the "peanuts" server from Xanthus Software - > they install without a hitch - but they aren't really usable without a license > and Xanthus doesn't since to exist anymore - does anyone have more info on > their status ? many thanks in advance ;-) > > Bob K. > > -- The applications were bought by Lighthouse Design. Lighthouse Design has since been bought by SUN. Xanthus I believe still exists. Try searching for them, they are in Sweden someplace...
From: bill@otherwise.com (Bill Tschumy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: OS4.2 and a peak at DR Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 03:28:35 GMT Organization: Otherwise -- Austin, TX Message-ID: <3460955f.10619304@news.jumpnet.com> References: <19971103133540235042@sdn-ts-003txhousp11.dialsprint.net> <63la1r$mus@shelob.afs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) wrote: >John Bauer writes >> So where is Keith Ohlfs these days anyway, and why did he leave NeXT? > >Last known address was WebTV, where he designed that UI. > >> Also, was he chiefly responsible for the look of the icons or was he in >> charge of the whole UI or what? I've heard the name often enough, I >> figured I may as well find out something about the guy. > >Icons, for sure. Also a Courier font adaptation that bears his name and >is used for most fixed-width text. As to the rest of the UI, I believe >the semantics were worked out before he got there. Nope, Keith was there from very early on and had a hand in most of it. Jean-Marie Hullot also had much to do with the look and feel (as did Steve) >In general, Keith is >given credit for the overall polish of NEXTSTEP, which is defined more >by the drawing code and icons than the interoperation of the parts. > >Another excellent electronic artist who worked on NEXTSTEP applications >is Jay Capela, whose company is called "Bitwise." He did all of the work >on the later releases of Lighthouse's applications. Jay did indeed do excellent work. He kind of got lost in Keith's shadow though. I had him do my Otherwise logo. ----- Bill Tschumy Otherwise -- Austin, TX
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: KPerfMon.app (or the like) for INTEL ? Date: 29 Oct 1997 16:50:45 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Distribution: world Message-ID: <637ph5$ipt$2@news.seicom.net> References: <3457610a.0@news.uni-konstanz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: dieter@kaluza.physik.uni-konstanz.de In <3457610a.0@news.uni-konstanz.de> Dieter Ebner wrote: > Is there a program like KPerfMon.app [which on black hardware gives a > track of the actual use of CPU, MEM, NET] which runs on NEXTSTEP 3.3. for > INTEL? Try Cycles (from the makers of TIFFany), it is quite cool... You may find it here: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/next/Tools/performance/Cycles.2.7.NIHS.b.tar.gz Beside KPerfMon is available in the same directory Quad-Fat... -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <345F4EBC.EB4@tiga.systonic.fr> Control: cancel <345F4EBC.EB4@tiga.systonic.fr> Date: 04 Nov 1997 16:53:09 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.345F4EBC.EB4@tiga.systonic.fr> Sender: Denis Olivier <dolivier@tiga.systonic.fr> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Michel Coste <nospam@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anti-spam software Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 00:55:49 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Message-ID: <EJ5EL1.56s@micmac.com> References: <63l8qr$9as$1@athena.ulaval.ca> <7xg1pdlfae.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: no.spam@burrow.camelot.de This was written in comp.sys.next.software (<7xg1pdlfae.fsf@burrow.camelot.de>) by Markus Gloede: > Here's what I do (I dont use sophisticated recipes): everything > received for no.spam is a reaction to a Usenet post - if it has no > References, In-Reply-To or similar header it is very likely to be UCE > and gets sorted accordingly. (Using an address such as no.spam has the > (proven) side effect that some UCE mailers drop them.) Agree with you! I still receive lot of spams to the other adresses I used before (1 month ago) but NO ONE to my new (and valid) nospam address... My mechanism is different from yours: my nospam account send back an antispam notice. People wanting to email me have to guess where (not that difficult!)... I guess yours is better if it recognize the existence of References or In-Reply-To headers (i.e. if he is smart enough to recognize an answer to an usenet post!). How do you do it? mc
From: jwlee@artsci.wustl.edu (Jung Woo Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP Script help! Date: 5 Nov 1997 03:52:00 GMT Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Message-ID: <63oqh0$7mo$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Thanks for the all help for the serial port. I would greatly appreciate it, if someone can help me set up the script for my ISP. I am using gatekeeper and the modem connection seems to be working fine, it is once the connection is made that I run into a problem. According to the ISP which is IDT Internet Provider, they have a script to run on a Linux. Here is the following suggestion: /usr/lib/ppp/chat.sh ___________________________________ "" ATDTXXXXXXX CONNECT '\c' x: 2 ame: LOGIN word: PASSWORD I changed the LOGIN and PASSWORD. I use this script for the pppon script which needs to be modified when using gatekeeper. If anybody can point a direction to correct my script. I would greatly appreciate it. If anybody knows how to connect to IDT via pppd please e-mail me or post. Thanks in advance. ---Jay (Openstep Newbie = MacDude)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger) Subject: Re: NS 3.3/PPP help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <EJ4qHB.B6@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> Sender: news@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: max@maxgraphic.com Organization: none References: <max-0211972126230001@blv-pm110-ip10.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:15:11 GMT In <max-0211972126230001@blv-pm110-ip10.halcyon.com> Max Pinton wrote: > I'm attempting to prepare a mono NeXTstation non-turbo for use by my > mother, who isn't going to want to do things the jury-rigged way I have > been. I've got PPP running on it, but mail doesn't work, and PPP isn't > quite working right - I get errors in GateKeeper's diagnostic log. But I > use terminal to telnet to my shell account and use elm there. > > So, first, I replaced my hostconfig and netinfo directory with the > templates. I noticed after this that I was no longer prompted to log in. > This is good, but now how do I log in as root, which is necessary to > reinstall GateKeeper? You are logged in as 'me'. Give me a password and the next time you will be prompted for it. Then you can log in as root. Olaf -- Olaf Foellinger homepage: http://www1.stuttgart.netsurf.de/~ergo/ NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CDDesigner on burning large Nextstep disks References: <63763m$co4$1@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com> From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <345792b1.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 29 Oct 97 19:46:57 GMT akira@home.com (Doug McClure) wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone out there is using CDDesigner to make > disks on the NeXT? I'm trying to use it myself, or rather, I'm > trying to test out the raw image writing capability, but it keeps > crashing. I'm running the latest on 4.2, but fairly far through > the directory creation process it just dies, because of a freed > object. I'm trying to burn a backup of the Openstep CD itself, > or rather a combined User + Developer with only certain packages, > so that it's easier to install and setup machines at work. > Shouldn't be that hard, but I can't get it to work. Any one else > have any luck with this? Yea, my girlfriend got it too, and she's having the same problems. Not just with next cd's, but burning almost any types of cd's makes for trouble. Especially with lots of little files. Not to mention the UI is not all that intuitive. It should be reasonably easy to do. Save to a raw image. Write from a raw image. Anyway, you're not alone...but then again, this app is relatively young in the product life cycle...so maybe it will come along... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP1554A DDS-3 on NeXTSTEP Date: 4 Nov 1997 11:13:24 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <63nhj4$r21@papoose.quick.com> References: <63h630$5d4$1@usenet48.supernews.com> In article <63h630$5d4$1@usenet48.supernews.com>, Stan Jirman <stanj@caffeineSoft.com> wrote: >Hello, > >I just purchased the HP-1554A DDS-3 DAT drive. It works fine with my Intel >4.2 system, but 3.3 doesn't recognize it. When the system boots (both Cube >and Intel), the drive is recognized in the SCSI init sequence, but no >/dev/nrst0 device is installed. Hence, apps such as SafetyNet or tar fail to >see the drive. > >On the underside of the drive is a series of dip-switches which should >configure it to a variety of Unix systems; since I have a total of 256 >possible combinations I thought to ask whether someone had any luck using >this device on 3.3. Note that the SCSI tape driver is not configured by default. Are you absolutely sure that you have Configured the driver? It will only take a few moments to go into Configure.app and determine that this is the case. If you did not configure Instance0 of this driver, the symptoms would be as you decribe: i.e. seen by the controller probes at boot but not later in the boot cycle. I think that in 3.3 the driver should be listed under the SCSI section, if not look in the Other drivers section. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What beta means (was Re: * Is Rhapsody supposed to come with a Web Browser?) Date: 5 Nov 1997 00:42:37 GMT Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Message-ID: <63ofdt$4qm$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> References: <62ql7j$erl$1@brnws01.ne.mediaone.net> <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <slrn657r61.dr.kennel@lyapunov.ucsd.edu> In article <slrn657r61.dr.kennel@lyapunov.ucsd.edu>, Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply) <kennel@NOSPAMlyapunov.ucsd.edu> wrote: On 26 Oct 1997 03:33:13 GMT, William Shipley <wjs@spam.omnigroup.com> wrote: [snip] > >:I will admit, for the record, that when Netscape or Microsoft releases a >:beta, it generally means, "This is pretty stable but not so stable we want >:to get sued." That isn't what our betas mean, and I can understand the >:confusion if you are used to using "betas" of IE or Netscape. > >Which is very good reason to not call these releases "betas", as many people >have been conditioned to believe that beta releases of Web browsers are >almost ready for most uses. > Come on folks. Matt is right. Some betas are betas close to release and others are early betas. Any one who has been involved in beta testing for long should know this. Why don't you do what I do. I have both 2.6 and 3 installed, and sometimes when I fell like checking out new features I fire up 3. Otherwise I stick with the old version. Let's give Omni a hand, and not complain. I for one am glad that I have had a browser free of charge for my next machine for the past few years (I am the only next user on my campus), and I am looking forward to moving to rhapsody and bringing along Omniweb with me. (I may have to fight for the free license when all the mac users discover rhapsody/omniweb though. ;-) Cheers, Don Petcher
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <63nv9a$7lt@news3.ee.net> Control: cancel <63nv9a$7lt@news3.ee.net> Date: 04 Nov 1997 20:24:48 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.63nv9a$7lt@news3.ee.net> Sender: sunsetemailservice@juno.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Walter Gull <Walter.Gull@ubs.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: PUBLIC: kpathsea and NeXTstep: Problem with ac_include Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 14:39:15 +0100 Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland Message-ID: <34607703.34A32019@ubs.com> References: <63o7r3$edh$1@news.usf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------09ABE3DCF97570DC84C955D6" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------09ABE3DCF97570DC84C955D6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I downloaded the latest texk-7.0 software from CTAN. When I try to do the first step in according to the guidelines in the INSTALL file, I get an error message and an empty Makefile. I look for advice on how to proceed with the configure step. Attached is the beginning of the standard output during the configuration: -- Walter Gull Union Bank of Switzerland, CH-8021 Zurich E-mail: Walter.Gull@ubs.com Phone: +41-1-2366816 --------------09ABE3DCF97570DC84C955D6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="ERROR.glw" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ERROR.glw" bash-2.01# bash configure creating cache ./config.cache checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking for gcc... no checking for cc... cc checking whether the C compiler (cc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (cc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for POSIXized ISC... no checking for prefix by checking for tex... /usr/bin/tex checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E -traditional-cpp checking for X... no updating cache ./config.cache creating ./config.status creating Makefile Unrecognized command: \@^ac_include make/paths.make@r make/paths.make configuring in kpathsea running /bin/sh ./configure --cache-file=.././config.cache --srcdir=. --------------09ABE3DCF97570DC84C955D6--
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PUBLIC: kpathsea and NeXTstep: Problem with ac_include Date: 5 Nov 1997 15:51:17 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <63q4ll$r12$2@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <63o7r3$edh$1@news.usf.edu> <34607703.34A32019@ubs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Walter.Gull@ubs.com In <34607703.34A32019@ubs.com> Walter Gull wrote: > I downloaded the latest texk-7.0 software from CTAN. > When I try to do the first step in according to the guidelines in the INSTALL > file, I get an error message and an empty Makefile. [Munch] > Unrecognized command: \@^ac_include make/paths.make@r make/paths.make I believe that this is actually an error message from the `sed' command which the configure script calls to make the edits to Makefile.in to produce the Makefile used in compilation. NeXT's 4.3BSD version of `sed' has some serious limitations compared to the `sed' command supplied with more modern Unices. I recommend that you install Gnu sed-2.05 which you can download from any Gnu archive. Remember to put /usr/local/bin on your $PATH before /bin so that configure finds the Gnu one. Cheers, Matthew [Posted and mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: Olaf Weber <infovore@xs4all.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PUBLIC: kpathsea and NeXTstep: Problem with ac_include Date: 05 Nov 1997 16:51:40 +0100 Organization: There and Back Again. Message-ID: <877mangwz7.fsf@xs4all.nl> References: <63o7r3$edh$1@news.usf.edu> <34607703.34A32019@ubs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.105) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Walter Gull writes: > I downloaded the latest texk-7.0 software from CTAN. When I try to > do the first step in according to the guidelines in the INSTALL > file, I get an error message and an empty Makefile. > I look for advice on how to proceed with the configure step. > Attached is the beginning of the standard output during the configuration: > creating Makefile > Unrecognized command: \@^ac_include make/paths.make@r make/paths.make At this point, the configure script should have created a variable $file_subst_cmd with the following contents (prettified): sed -e '\@^ac_include make/paths.make@r make/paths.make' \ -e '\@^ac_include make/paths.make@d' \ -e '\@^ac_include make/makevars.make@r make/makevars.make' \ -e '\@^ac_include make/makevars.make@d' \ -e '\@^ac_include make/common.make@r make/common.make' \ -e '\@^ac_include make/common.make@d' The relevant code can be found by searching for ac_include in the script. If this _is_ the contents of the variable at this point, then it looks like some bug in sed to me. Using GNU sed might help in this case. If it isn't, something must have gone wrong earlier in the script, and I'd be interested in learning what. -- Olaf Weber
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anybody still using Weather.app Date: 5 Nov 1997 04:54:17 GMT Organization: Squonk-Net, Loudonville, NY 12211 Message-ID: <63ou5p$me7$1@duke.squonk.net> References: <34549ecc.4667397@news.mindspring.com> smarqz@no_spam_unm.edu (Marlin) wrote: > I'm wondering if its still usable. I'm working on setting up my > NeXT to the 'net, and think this app would be interesting to try. The service it is going to (the "weather underground") has changed the format of some of it's messages. If you poke around enough in Weather.app, you'll see how to change it to handle the minor format changes that have occurred. However, the above is from memory. For my purposes, I eventually decided to just telnet to the sources directly, and type in the commands I was interested in (in my case I'm not looking for maps, I just want the plain-text weather forecasts). Those places would be things like: telnet mammatus.sprl.umich.edu 3000 telnet downwind.sprl.umich.edu 3000 telnet um-weather.sprl.umich.edu 3000 telnet rainmaker.wunderground.com --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 3 beta 2 memory leaks and slowness, possible causes of Date: 28 Oct 1997 19:12:02 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <635de2$av4$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <6347og$467$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <634o1t$cv2$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> In article <634o1t$cv2$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>, Christian Neuss <neuss.CUT@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote: >While I'm here.. I think OmniGroup is doing a great job. I'm sure >looking forward to the release version of OmniWeb 3.0. So do I, so I can replace Navigator's slowness and Internet Explorer's instability. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Performance Availability & Solutions Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: mbessey@apple.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NExT Kernel superior? Date: 6 Nov 1997 04:24:09 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <63rgp9$136i$1@news.apple.com> References: <2806ED8C712E88A1.B080EAA98DBB2DFA.06EDF891EDCE753D@library-proxy.airnews.net> Jamie Fullerton <jlf175@mail.airmail.net> writes > I've been reading several articles about Rhapsody and NeXT software and > many of the articles continue to tout that Rhapsody quite possibly > possess a better kernel than even Windows NT. Would someone mind please > explaining this to me either in an e-mail or a post back to this group. A very quick (very biased) comparison of the NT and Mach Kernels - Things I like better about Mach: Simple, consistent API's for system calls *Much* faster memory allocation network & multi-processor friendly Fast, easy, network ready IPC (inter-process communication) A good threading library (Cthreads) lazy allocation and copy-on write as a religion Things I like better about NT: Sophisticated security The ability to get statistics on absolutely everything the kernel does Better error recovery in out-of-memory conditions I can run DOS games on it :-) In a lot of cases, NT's VMS influences are pretty obvious. Stability was one of the driving factors behind the NT kernel design (at least until they started putting crap like DirectX in the kernel - sheesh!). Mach was designed to be fast and to work well on networked multi-processor machines. Sometimes, Mach trades that speed for decreased reliability. On the other hand, as long as you had lots of memory, NeXT's Mach was the most trouble-free operating system I ever used. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: echu@ceco.com Subject: Re: Problems installing OPENSTEP 4.2 SPARC Message-ID: <34612e3e.513170880@ceco> Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. References: <63qg57$sd5$1@elnws01.mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 02:41:35 GMT Don't think openstep runs one the 5/170's sorry HTH eric c echu@ceco.com On Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:09:49 -0600, Dan <"dan "@at recycled .dot net> wrote: >I'm trying to install OPENSTEP 4.2 on a SUN SPARCstation 5/170 with >160Mb RAM, 2Gb internal disk, TGX+ graphics card, SunPC 5x86 card, and >SunSwift Combo FastEthernet/WideSCSI card. I have tried both with the >SunPC and SunSwift cards in there and with them removed, and I'm getting >something like this... > >Note that when the aforementioned hardware is removed or present the >Memory access exception address (See below) will differ; this is why I >think it has something to do with it, but where do I go from here? > >ok boot cdrom >(press -v for verbose output) >(prompt for language) >(type 1 to prepare to install) >---> 1 >Loading OPENSTEP >Loading mach_kernel >Reading OPENSTEP configuration >Loading /usr/standalone/sparc/sarld >Loading binary for CG6FrameBuffer device driver >Loading binary for SunLE device driver >Loading binary for SCSAController device driver >Starting OPENSTEP >NeXT MACH 4.2: Wed Apr 16 13:54:38 PDT 1997; >root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk183-84.obj~2/RELEASE_SPARC >physical memory = 160.00 megabytes >using 255 buffers containing 1.99 megabytes of memory >available memory = 152.83 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 4c6b >Ethernet address = blah >espdma0 at space 0 0x78400000 >esp0 at space 0 0x78800000 pri 4 (onboard) >ledma0 at space 0 0x78400010 >zs0 at space 0 0x71100000 pri 12 (onboard) >zs1 at space 0 0x71000000 pri 12 (onboard) >Memory access exception (1,1,1e) >Waiting for remote debugger connection > >Thanks! >Any help appreciated. >dan at recycled dot net
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From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 8bit telnet/Terminal.app Date: 6 Nov 1997 18:41:52 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EJ712o.uE@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <7xen50jwwb.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> <63l0mi$c3n$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> wrote: > Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.camelot.de> wrote: > > Is there a way to enter and see 8 bit characters when using > > Terminal.app or when telnetting into my NeXT Station? > > For entering, sure-- check out the VT100 preferences (Cmd-3), and select the > "Alternate key sets high bit" radio button. > > The display side is a little more complex since the standard fonts supplied > with NEXTSTEP don't provide the high-bit VT100 graphics set. I think you'd > need a third-party solution like Cables, which provides a more thorough VTxxx > terminal emulation. I may be a bit out of touch with current VTxxx technology, but if you mean the standard vt100 line drawing (+ assorted funnies) graphics character set, I'm pretty sure that the latest Stuart(2.6.3) supports it as well (besides NeXT character set, or latin1 using the hidden dwrite Stuart ISOLatin YES.) Even double width and double height/width text is supported :-) --- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.dev.null.nl> (work) __/__/__/ <<SPAMBLOCK: remove .dev.null to reply>> __/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
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From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: OS4.2 and a peak at DR Date: 29 Oct 1997 04:29:39 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <636e3j$i7f@mochi.lava.net> References: <62ofcf$bjp$1@news1.ucsd.edu> <344fd665.0@206.25.228.5> <630g6f$67i$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> <slrn65cejp.6ga.kennel@lyapunov.ucsd.edu> kennel@nospam.lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)) wrote: > On 26 Oct 1997 22:28:31 GMT, Ken Lui <klui@cup.hp.com> wrote: > :In article <344fd665.0@206.25.228.5>, John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> wrote: > :> Basically mediocrity, compromise, assimilation, > :>habit, tradition, and familiarity over functionality and elegance. > : > :Gee John, what kinds of tools do you use? Snap-On? What kind of > :car do you drive? A 500SEC? An F50? A Silver Shadow? Do you call > :Mr. Calvin Klein whenever you need a pair of underwear? > > A good UI doesn't cost as much as a Ferarri. Actually, it probably costs considerably more to design and implement. If you were buying a Ferrari, > how would you like it if the Buick designers made the new Ferrari supercar > look like a Skylark, when there was a drop-dead sexy italian design before? Since the "drop-dead sexy Italian design" was a commercial failure that was rapidly leading to the demise of the operating system, I'll take a functional Skylark over a junked Ferrari any day. All you have to do is take a look at what's on 90+% of all desktops to realize that beauty isn't apparently what sells. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Where to find the NeXTdimension demos apps... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EIqCIA.7I1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:46:58 GMT References: <EIpzMs.Ar0@midway.uchicago.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <EIpzMs.Ar0@midway.uchicago.edu>, Andrew Chang <tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu> wrote: > >Can anyone tell me where I can find the demo applications for NeXTdimension? >I searched various NS releases and I can find only NeXTtv, ScreenScape. Right. Those should be in /NextDeveloper/Demos >Whare is the VideoApp? This went away in 3.3. I seem to recall it being somewhere under /NextDeveloper/Examples in 3.2 (don't have a 3.2 machine handy to check.) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: "Bruce J. Dolby" <B.Dolby@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ps -> hpgl for NS3.3 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 10:06:27 +0100 Organization: Alcatel SEL Message-ID: <3462DA13.3076@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. Is there a way to convert ps (or eps) to hpgl under NS3.3? Thanks, Bruce
From: Doug <hamilto@cc.umanitoba.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: ROM Password Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 21:04:52 +0000 Organization: University of Manitoba Message-ID: <346230F1.CFD2CF69@cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <345A4EA5.3FA6BF54@csfb.com> <63kks7$1jh$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to restore some NeXT Cubes to a useful state, and at some point in the past someone has entered a ROM password. Does anyone remember how to remove a ROM password? The NeXT Admin manual only states that it is difficult, and then make no reference to any material to address this particular problem. Any help would be apprechiated. D.H.
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ROM Password Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 7 Nov 1997 05:35:39 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <63u9bb$jkk@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <345A4EA5.3FA6BF54@csfb.com> <63kks7$1jh$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <346230F1.CFD2CF69@cc.umanitoba.ca> Doug (hamilto@cc.umanitoba.ca) wrote: : I'm trying to restore some NeXT Cubes to a useful state, and at some : point in the past someone has entered a ROM password. Does anyone : remember how to remove a ROM password? The NeXT Admin manual only : states that it is difficult, and then make no reference to any material : to address this particular problem. : try: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/next/apps/misc/HardwarePassword.N.b.tar.gz I had the same problem(well it wasn't really a problem, just annoying) when I got my turbo from Deep Space Tech.(Don't know why they didn't fix it) Fortunatly I stumbled into this thing early on. Oh, could somebody clue me in to why it requires being run from "root" exactly? -Josh -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted. |ess|erb|unl|u| email: jh|e@h|ie.|.ed| Vote for "citizan" Bob! <http://www.wtv.net/trustee/>
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ROM Password Date: 7 Nov 1997 07:37:07 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <63ugf3$cnv$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <345A4EA5.3FA6BF54@csfb.com> <63kks7$1jh$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <346230F1.CFD2CF69@cc.umanitoba.ca> <63u9bb$jkk@crcnis3.unl.edu> remove battery go for coffee.. go for a movie... get a life.. then come back.. put battery back.. voila. I guess having a life part is difficult;-) Godwin Josh Hesse (00093182@bigred.unl.edu) wrote: : Doug (hamilto@cc.umanitoba.ca) wrote: : : I'm trying to restore some NeXT Cubes to a useful state, and at some : : point in the past someone has entered a ROM password. Does anyone : : remember how to remove a ROM password? The NeXT Admin manual only : : states that it is difficult, and then make no reference to any material : : to address this particular problem. : : : try: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/next/apps/misc/HardwarePassword.N.b.tar.gz : I had the same problem(well it wasn't really a problem, just annoying) : when I got my turbo from Deep Space Tech.(Don't know why they didn't fix it) : Fortunatly I stumbled into this thing early on. : Oh, could somebody clue me in to why it requires being run from "root" exactly? : -Josh : -- : Do not send mail to this account. Really. : "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general : This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted. : |ess|erb|unl|u| : email: jh|e@h|ie.|.ed| : Vote for "citizan" Bob! <http://www.wtv.net/trustee/>
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 8bit telnet/Terminal.app Date: 7 Nov 1997 18:33:57 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <63vmul$4oi$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <7xen50jwwb.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> <63l0mi$c3n$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <EJ712o.uE@basil.icce.rug.nl> tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) wrote: [ ... ] > I may be a bit out of touch with current VTxxx technology, but if you mean the > standard vt100 line drawing (+ assorted funnies) graphics character set, I'm > pretty sure that the latest Stuart(2.6.3) supports it as well (besides NeXT > character set, or latin1 using the hidden dwrite Stuart ISOLatin YES.) Even > double width and double height/width text is supported :-) That's pretty cool! I remember making that suggestion to Scott way back when (in the dawn of history, it seems-- before NS for Intel was available :-). Maybe I should check out Stuart again.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Erez Yearot <software@webcreations.com.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Windows95/NT enhancement. Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 14:19:15 +1100 Organization: Access Net Australia Message-ID: <3463DA33.1A9143DD@webcreations.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NEW : Power Tray http://www.webcreations.com.au/powertray/ Power Tray is a powerful Windows95/NT enhancement. Power Tray sits in your system icon tray as a small icon, which you have chosen, but has a big effect on your system. It allows you to easily and quickly launch Window Explorer, Control panel, Web Browser, Notepad, Calculator, Telnet and Ftp and also allows you to Shut Down, Restart and Logoff Windows. Another very useful utility that Power Tray has is Screen Capture. This will allow you to capture the active window or the full desktop and paste it into your document or paint. Don't waste your time flicking through menus to find what you want, use Power Tray.
From: Bruno Wolff III <bruno@cerberus.csd.uwm.edu> Newsgroups: aus.computers.cdrom,bit.listserv.cdromlan,comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia,comp.publish.cdrom.software,de.comp.periph.cdrom,tnn.multimedia.cdrom,tw.bbs.comp.hardware.cdrom,alt.binaries.games,alt.binaries.dominion.games,de.alt.games.quake,comp.sys.mac.games.strategic,comp.sys.mac.games.misc,comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.naval,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.marketplace,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.acorn.games,comp.sources.games.bugs,alt.fan.webgod,alt.html.webedit,alt.comp.software.tools,bionet.software,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.software.year-2000,comp.sys.next.software,comp.software.international,news.software.misc,alt.graphics.photoshop Subject: cmsg cancel <3462AB0C.4021431E@ecom.net> Control: cancel <3462AB0C.4021431E@ecom.net> Date: 7 Nov 1997 20:38:35 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee Sender: "Wayne G." <waveweb@ecom.net> Message-ID: <cancel.3462AB0C.4021431E@ecom.net> Reason cancelled: emp
From: no.spam.please@nospam.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Datebook.app Date: 8 Nov 1997 07:03:37 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <6412s9$fq8@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a friend who somehow deleted his (only) copy of an old app called Datebook.app (works with files having a .datebk extension). I've searched every site I know of and can't find it. He needs to access some info in his .datebk files for a case soonest. Please email me a site to download, or the app if possible. Thanks, JP -- Please respond as needed to: jpmeia@ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome
From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is it just me, or does NEXTIME suck? Date: 8 Nov 1997 07:36:03 GMT Organization: MiscKit Development Message-ID: <6414p3$1fr$1@news.xmission.com> References: <63h7v2$7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <63ia75$t44$2@news.rwth-aachen.de> martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) wrote: > In <63h7v2$7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > OS 4.1/Mach/Intel, P-133 with 64 ram and 4WRam, and a Soundblaster card. > > The other is larger and the sound jumps in and out consistently. > > This happens quite a bit with QT movies actually... > > I'm not sure what the problem is. I think I found an answer for this on Intel hardware. Read on... > > It is QT? Something in my hardware? What? > Good questions... >[...]. > there are certain .mov files which don't play AT ALL or without > sounds (if I'm lucky). You indicated that in an earlier post as > well. As the ones that have problems are more recent ones, and > NEXTIME is pretty old considering that QT changed a lot with the > years, I guess that some newer implementations just haven't been made. This is true: if a .mov uses a newer codec that NEXTIME doesn't implement, then you are SOL. NEXTIME does seem to implement many of the popular ones, though; I can't fault NeXT for not having the resources to implement every QT codec under the sun. After all, there's only so much Mike can do, and he's accomplished a lot all things considered... > If anyone is out there who doesn't have to guess but has the knowledge to > give some insight, I'd be very glad... My main reason for posting is that I discovered a little gem that worked wonders for my machine. It turns out that if you go into Configure.app and look at the other drivers (last button on the toolbar), you'll note that there's a NEXTIME sound driver. Apparently NEXTIME will work without that driver installed, BUT the sound has a lot fewer dropouts if you install that driver. (You have to keep your regular sound driver still installed; this one sits along side it, apparently.) So click "Add" if the driver isn't in the scrolling list of drivers so that it is in that list... installing the driver may fix the dropout problems you are experiencing on Intel. (On black, the dropouts are likely due to lack of processor horsepower, and not anything driver related.) It seems that the driver isn't installed on a new machine by default, so you might not have it up and running on your machine. (Then again, I have a non-standard sound card, so perhaps it wasn't installed by default on my machine because the installer didn't recognize my sound card.) I wish I knew more about this driver, but there is no info anywhere I could find. It doesn't seem to be in any of the docs, and there are no docs inside the driver. So all that I know about it is that (a) it exists and (b) it does something magical for the sound on my system. Perhaps Mike Paquette would like to tell us more about it, if he's listening... -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What beta means (was Re: * Is Rhapsody supposed to come with a Web Browser?) References: <62ql7j$erl$1@brnws01.ne.mediaone.net> <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <slrn657r61.dr.kennel@lyapunov.ucsd.edu> <63ofdt$4qm$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <345fd73c.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 5 Nov 97 02:17:32 GMT petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) wrote: > Come on folks. Matt is right. Some betas are betas close to > release and others are early betas. Any one who has been involved > in beta testing for long should know this. Why don't you do what > I do. I have both 2.6 and 3 installed, and sometimes when I fell > like checking out new features I fire up 3. Otherwise I stick > with the old version. Let's give Omni a hand, and not complain. > I for one am glad that I have had a browser free of charge for > my next machine for the past few years (I am the only next user > on my campus), and I am looking forward to moving to rhapsody > and bringing along Omniweb with me. (I may have to fight for the > free license when all the mac users discover rhapsody/omniweb > though. ;-) Well, for what it's worth, 3.0b3 is much better and more stable. My particular feelings are that 3.0b3, 2.7b2, 2.6 and 2.5 are all stable enough to use regularly. Other versions were too hairy. YMMV. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
From: Jamie Fullerton <jlf175@mail.airmail.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NExT Kernel superior? Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 09:44:01 -0600 Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Message-ID: <2806ED8C712E88A1.B080EAA98DBB2DFA.06EDF891EDCE753D@library-proxy.airnews.net> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Wed Nov 5 09:42:34 1997 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been reading several articles about Rhapsody and NExT software and many of the articles continue to tout that Rhapsody quite possibly possess a better kernel than even Windows NT. Would someone mind please explaining this to me either in an e-mail or a post back to this group. Thanks --Jamie Fullerton
From: Dan <"dan "@at recycled .dot net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Problems installing OPENSTEP 4.2 SPARC Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:09:49 -0600 Organization: MediaOne -=- Central Region Message-ID: <63qg57$sd5$1@elnws01.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to install OPENSTEP 4.2 on a SUN SPARCstation 5/170 with 160Mb RAM, 2Gb internal disk, TGX+ graphics card, SunPC 5x86 card, and SunSwift Combo FastEthernet/WideSCSI card. I have tried both with the SunPC and SunSwift cards in there and with them removed, and I'm getting something like this... Note that when the aforementioned hardware is removed or present the Memory access exception address (See below) will differ; this is why I think it has something to do with it, but where do I go from here? ok boot cdrom (press -v for verbose output) (prompt for language) (type 1 to prepare to install) ---> 1 Loading OPENSTEP Loading mach_kernel Reading OPENSTEP configuration Loading /usr/standalone/sparc/sarld Loading binary for CG6FrameBuffer device driver Loading binary for SunLE device driver Loading binary for SCSAController device driver Starting OPENSTEP NeXT MACH 4.2: Wed Apr 16 13:54:38 PDT 1997; root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk183-84.obj~2/RELEASE_SPARC physical memory = 160.00 megabytes using 255 buffers containing 1.99 megabytes of memory available memory = 152.83 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 4c6b Ethernet address = blah espdma0 at space 0 0x78400000 esp0 at space 0 0x78800000 pri 4 (onboard) ledma0 at space 0 0x78400010 zs0 at space 0 0x71100000 pri 12 (onboard) zs1 at space 0 0x71000000 pri 12 (onboard) Memory access exception (1,1,1e) Waiting for remote debugger connection Thanks! Any help appreciated. dan at recycled dot net
From: Paul Breitzmann <breitzmann.2@osu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: solidThinking Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 05:28:24 -0800 Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <345B2E78.F9FC7C57@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am in need of some assistance from anyone who owns solidThinking 2.5. I recieved a bad burn of the CD, and after several months of trying to get support from gestel, I've just about given up. I have gotten the actual program working, but several of the additional packages are corrupted. Is there any way I can either download a copy of these packages from someone, or pay a nominal fee for a burn of those packages? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Paul Breitzmann
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Datebook.app Date: 8 Nov 1997 09:17:36 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <641ang$j6q$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <6412s9$fq8@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: no.spam.please@nospam.net In <6412s9$fq8@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> no.spam.please@nospam.net wrote: > I have a friend who somehow deleted his (only) copy of an old app > called Datebook.app (works with files having a .datebk extension). > I've searched every site I know of and can't find it. It was 'Date' not Datebook, and you can find it here: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Developer/demos_nextstep2.1/Date.2.1.N.b.gnutar.gz TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: henry@yusei.boeblingen.de.ibm.com (Henry Koplien) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: socks and ssh Date: 8 Nov 1997 12:44:08 GMT Organization: IBM Development Lab. Boeblingen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <641mqo$131e$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> Has anybody successfully compiled socks5 from nec and/or gnu's secret shell (ssh) under NS3.3pl1 on Intel??? On both I get errors. Henry
From: Christopher Rath <crath@cyberus.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Questions re: mkmagic.sh script Date: 8 Nov 1997 14:19:42 GMT Organization: Cyberus Online Inc. Message-ID: <641sdu$675$1@news.cyberus.ca> I tried using the mkmagic.sh script yesterday and I've one problem and a question: I built a 2.88meg floppy image using the -u (MicroBoot) option; however, the machine hangs when I use it to boot (with an `NeXT>b fd()' command). Anyone have any experience booting from floppy? I'm using NS3.3patch1 If one builds a MiniBoot disk, then mkmagic.sh attempts to copy a few executables onto the disk that I don't have in my system image (as installed, by me, from CD). Specifically, clri, dcheck, fsirand, & icheck Since someone at NeXT wrote mkmagic.sh, I take this to mean that these binaries exist somewhere. Would some kind soul send them to me (NeXTmail is fine)? Thanks, Christopher ============ Christopher Rath == (613) 824-4584 =========== 6253 Castille Ct., Orleans, ON, Canada K1C 1X4 ================= mailto:crath@cyberus.ca ================= ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless gas which, given enough time, turns into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert =============== http://www.cyberus.ca/~crath/ =============
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.camelot.de> Subject: MIME handling broken in Mail.app Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xvhy1v8we.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> Sender: tm@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede) Organization: @heism (a non-prophet organization) Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 01:24:01 GMT Until recently I was of the opinion that Mail.app (in my case 3.3 under NS 3.3pl1) handled MIME encoding properly. Now I'm convinced that something is wrong. You might call it a bug. The "bug": Mail.app's quoted-printable encoding treats paragraphs as one line inserting only soft line breaks. These are removed by other MUAs, yet sometimes (which is an error on their side) they crop the resulting long line. Why Mail.app's behavior is wrong: Viewers aren't supposed to have to provide line wrapping or scroll bar facilities to make the text legible. Now where do I go from here? I doubt something will be done for Mail.app 3.3. I'd like to know if more recent Mail.apps and MailViewer.app (or whatever it's called) behave the same. Next thing would be to report this and inform the developers. Markus Gloede -- "no.spam@burrow.camelot.de" is a working address. When posting a followup, mailing a courtesy copy is appreciated, provided it is clearly marked as such.
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MailViewer app. Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 15:11:21 +0000 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <3465D296.B7C@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any chance we will see anti-spam filters or bundles for MailViewer app.??? STEVE K.
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ROM Password Date: 10 Nov 1997 04:53:22 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <646402$oqp@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <345A4EA5.3FA6BF54@csfb.com> <63kks7$1jh$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <346230F1.CFD2CF69@cc.umanitoba.ca> <63u9bb$jkk@crcnis3.unl.edu> <Pine.GSO.3.95.971107082709.15288B-100000@goodguy> Jay (nin@goodnet.com) wrote: : : Probably to make serious system changes like that it requires super-user : access (eg. root). Forgive me if this sounds demeaning, but are you : asking why it needs root privlidges; or are you asking what 'root' is? I probably could have phrased that better. "why and what mechanisms" possibly. At any rate, I suspect that it would be better to find a decent reference book. -Josh -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted. |ess|erb|unl|u| email: jh|e@h|ie.|.ed| Vote for "citizan" Bob! <http://www.wtv.net/trustee/>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP 2.6 not usefull anymore! Message-ID: <P1DPfJxZIRVb@cc.usu.edu> From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 9 Nov 97 13:20:54 MDT References: <EJDntH.1AA@micmac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In <EJDntH.1AA@micmac.com> Michel Coste wrote: > Yes! Since everybody (i.e. 99.999999999% of the people) is using 5.0 > and since 5.0 keys are not accepted (at least by Encipher.app as a > service to add their keys!) 2.6 is now completely useless if we want > to communicate with the external world! > > What to do? > > I tried to make the 5.0... In vain. > > Can some smarter one do that? Can it be that nobody is interested > in getting PGP 5.0 on OUR island? I have compiled PGP 5.0 on OpenStep 4.2. You can find step-by-step instructions on patching and compiling PGP 5.0 in the NXPGP50.app distribution. I believe this is has been moved to: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/openstep/mach/apps/mail/NXPGP.5.0.I.b.tar.gz If you have any questions or problems contact me at edx@cc.usu.edu
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhöfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: socks and ssh Date: 9 Nov 1997 17:25:47 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <644rmr$lt@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <641mqo$131e$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> henry@yusei.boeblingen.de.ibm.com (Henry Koplien) wrote: >Has anybody successfully compiled socks5 from nec and/or gnu's secret >shell (ssh) under NS3.3pl1 on Intel??? There's a precompiled version of the secure shell (ssh) on peanuts. Works fine for me. -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: jason@conceptx.com Subject: Problems installing OpenStep 4.2 on Intel... Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 16:32:17 -0600 Message-ID: <879025050.13567@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Deja News Posting Service I've done a lot of reading on the subject, and we've been trying to install OpenStep on a number of different PCs here at my office and are getting nowhere. We always get this obscure error message during the install... Something about not having a disk to install on that is a 512 byte/sector disk with 120 megs available. The hard disk _is_ being recognized during the install process, as is the CD-ROM. CD mounts fine as root during the install as well. My system: Pentium 166, dual EIDE controllers on-board, 8x Mitsumi CD-ROM, 1083 meg Western Digital hard drive. HD is set up as Master on the primary EIDE bus, CD-ROM as Slave on primary. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! jason gerry ----------- jason@conceptx.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <398878446823@digifix.com> Date: 9 Nov 1997 04:46:07 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <11552879051630@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. 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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <e$K1cKb78GA.154@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com> Control: cancel <e$K1cKb78GA.154@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com> Date: 10 Nov 1997 13:06:25 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.e$K1cKb78GA.154@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com> Sender: spamfree.usa1@gov.abuse.net Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bmwt@pas.rochester.edu Subject: 3.3 media? Message-ID: <1997Nov10.142652.23118@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: Brendan M. White <bmwt@bullwinkle.pas.rochester.edu> Organization: University of Rochester Computing Center Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 14:26:52 GMT Hi, I have a lab with an intel box and a next cube, both licenced to run NeXTStep 3.3 academic. Last week, someone came in and stole the drives and ram out of both machines. I replaced the missing hardware, but the origional OS media has long since been lost. So, basically, this is a plea for someone to give me a copy of 3.3 for either platform. We were licenced for academic, but ordinary user would be fine for our purposes. We legally have a right to run both machines, but I just need the OS. Can someone help? A CD-ROM image would be great, but anything that would give me a working OS would be appreciated. thanks a million in advance, -brendan -- Brendan White SysAdmin, University of Rochester NIR bmwt@pas.rochester.edu
From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LDAP from UofM for NeXTStep Date: 10 Nov 1997 17:27:22 GMT Organization: CSUnet Message-ID: <647g5q$iv2$1@nuke.csu.net> Hi, Is anyone interested on trying to work on getting the LDAP release at U of M to work on NeXTStep/Rhapsody? I've been able to compile slapd for NeXTStep 3.3 and 4.2 but haven't been able to get some of the other directory hierarchies to compile. As far as I can tell there are no existing versions of LDAP servers on the archive. LDAP is incredibly useful and I'd like to get a version up and running on a variety of NeXT/Apple oriented Mach implementations. Thanks, Thomas thomas@ireadyco.com
From: planetary <kris@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LDAP from UofM for NeXTStep Date: 10 Nov 1997 10:53:07 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <647hm3$2mj$1@xmission.xmission.com> References: <647g5q$iv2$1@nuke.csu.net> Thomas Poff <thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu> wrote: : Hi, : Is anyone interested on trying to work on getting the LDAP release at : U of M to work on NeXTStep/Rhapsody? : I've been able to compile slapd for NeXTStep 3.3 and 4.2 but haven't : been able to get some of the other directory hierarchies to compile. : As far as I can tell there are no existing versions of LDAP servers on : the archive. LDAP is incredibly useful and I'd like to get a version : up and running on a variety of NeXT/Apple oriented Mach implementations. I think Luke Howard, boy genius and self-proclaimed directory services geek, has a binary version somewhere. Luke? Am I right? ................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you know so much about Usenet, then why are you still posting?
From: hermann@camera.rhein-main.de (Hermann Oehling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Compose in Colors/Pro for Next/Intel Date: 9 Nov 1997 13:14:59 GMT Organization: rhein-main.de im IN e.V. Message-ID: <644d0j$ot6$1@hermes.rhein-main.de> hello everybody- i am looking for a CIC/Pro License for Next/Intel only. please send offers to hermann@camera.rhein-main.de thank you- hermann
From: hermann@camera.rhein-main.de (Hermann Oehling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next/ Convert Diagram files to quark-express files for mac Date: 9 Nov 1997 13:17:20 GMT Organization: rhein-main.de im IN e.V. Message-ID: <644d50$pbe$1@hermes.rhein-main.de> does anybody know if its possible to convert Next/ Diagram files into mac quark-express files? waiting for answers- hermann
From: Michel Coste <nospam@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PGP 2.6 not usefull anymore! Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 11:56:05 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Message-ID: <EJDntH.1AA@micmac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes! Since everybody (i.e. 99.999999999% of the people) is using 5.0 and since 5.0 keys are not accepted (at least by Encipher.app as a service to add their keys!) 2.6 is now completely useless if we want to communicate with the external world! What to do? I tried to make the 5.0... In vain. Can some smarter one do that? Can it be that nobody is interested in getting PGP 5.0 on OUR island? mc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.camelot.de> Subject: Re: MIME handling broken in Mail.app Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xd8k8pli4.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> Sender: tm@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede) Organization: @heism (a non-prophet organization) References: <7xvhy1v8we.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> <646i66$2n5$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 20:00:35 GMT >>>>> "MG" == Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.camelot.de> writes: MG> Why Mail.app's behavior is wrong: Viewers aren't supposed to MG> have to provide line wrapping or scroll bar facilities to make MG> the text legible. >>>>> "ED" == Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com> writes: ED> Well, that's your interpretation. I say viewers *must* provide ED> line wrapping and scroll bar facilities. This is not my interpretation. As I wrote: until recently I thought Mail.app's way is the proper way; yet I had discussions with people who are pretty familiar with MIME and they managed to convince me (I took my case to comp.mail.mime). ED> Also, if we use modern mail clients we can read and write ED> messages using proportional fonts and the sender cannot ED> foresee where line-breaks are needed as it does not ED> necessarily know which font will be used by the recipient to ED> display the message. I know of 'modern' MUAs that corrupt long one-line paragraphs (Eudora and Pegasus are among them). ED> Regarding the standards, RFC 1521/2 are somewhat vague about ED> this issue. They do, however, explicitly allow for the ED> encoding of soft line breaks and long lines. That were my arguments to but reality is somewhat different. You are welcome to make your point in comp.mail.mime. My only concern is that I keep running into MUAs that have problems with Mail.app's MIME paragraphs. That puts me in the minority. Markus Gloede -- "no.spam@burrow.camelot.de" is a working address. When posting a followup, mailing a courtesy copy is appreciated, provided it is clearly marked as such.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is it just me, or does NEXTIME suck? Date: 10 Nov 1997 06:58:59 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <646bbj$605$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <63h7v2$7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <63ia75$t44$2@news.rwth-aachen.de> <6414p3$1fr$1@news.xmission.com> <3466a792.11913818@news.wco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <3466a792.11913818@news.wco.com> Mike Paquette wrote: > The NEXTIME sound driver patches it's way around this problem. Thanks for the reply. I tried to install that sound driver, but didn't notice any change.... Here's the bootup messages: Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: PnP: configuring Creative SB16 PnP Audio Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: SoundBlaster16 hardware version is 4.13 Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: SoundBlaster16 at dma channel 1 irq 5 Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: Registering: SoundBlaster16 Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: Registering: PDPseudo Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: Registering: ttya Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: Registering: ttyb Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: Registering: pdservd Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: Registering: pdservd Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: Registering: en1 Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: en1: i82595 version: 4. Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: Intel EtherExpress PRO/10+ ISA at port 0x300 irq 10 Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en1, type "10MB Ethernet" Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: en1: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:2e:f6:fe Nov 9 23:10:57 luomat mach: Registering: NEXTIME_Sound Nov 9 23:11:29 luomat reboot: Reboot complete (I guess nothing interesting happened in the time after it was loaded) Thanks TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MIME handling broken in Mail.app Date: 10 Nov 1997 08:55:34 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <646i66$2n5$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <7xvhy1v8we.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.camelot.de> wrote: > Until recently I was of the opinion that Mail.app (in my case 3.3 > under NS 3.3pl1) handled MIME encoding properly. Now I'm convinced > that something is wrong. You might call it a bug. > > The "bug": > Mail.app's quoted-printable encoding treats paragraphs as one line > inserting only soft line breaks. These are removed by other MUAs, yet > sometimes (which is an error on their side) they crop the resulting > long line. > > Why Mail.app's behavior is wrong: > Viewers aren't supposed to have to provide line wrapping or scroll bar > facilities to make the text legible. Well, that's your interpretation. I say viewers *must* provide line wrapping and scroll bar facilities. Why? Without a means to scroll in *some* way I can only read messages that fit on one screen. Also, if we use modern mail clients we can read and write messages using proportional fonts and the sender cannot foresee where line-breaks are needed as it does not necessarily know which font will be used by the recipient to display the message. Regarding the standards, RFC 1521/2 are somewhat vague about this issue. They do, however, explicitly allow for the encoding of soft line breaks and long lines. -- Erik Dörnenburg - http://www.object-factory.com/~erik This message transmitted by 100% recyclable electrons
From: Michel Coste <nospam@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Whereis Tailor & Virtuoso? Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:44:19 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Message-ID: <EJ8H5v.AJ7@micmac.com> References: <629jaa$4ka$1@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu> <19971019013500.VAA01924@ladder02.news.aol.com> <62gs5u$gs8$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: seanl@carmi.cs.umd.edu This was written in comp.sys.next.software (<62gs5u$gs8$1@walter.cs.umd.edu>) by Sean Luke: > WillAdams (willadams@aol.com) wrote: > >As I've noted here recently, Macromedia nee Altsys isn't selling Virtuoso, and > > isn't moving overly fast towards making Freehand (which is what Virtuoso > > became) into a Rhapsody program. > > I've seen this only too many times now. Far as I know, Freehand > *predates* Virtuoso by several years. Altsys wrote Freehand for Aldus > (now Adobe). *Then* Altsys wrote Virtuoso for NeXTSTEP. > That's right, except they didn't write it *for* Aldus. It only happened that they thought they had not the power to market it themselves (they were already marketing their own products like "Fontastic" and "Fontographer"...) and found Aldus to do the job for them. > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too > U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." > seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/ > mc
From: jwlee@artsci.wustl.edu (Jung Woo Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: /dev/cufa Devise Busy? Date: 11 Nov 1997 03:48:58 GMT Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Message-ID: <648kja$9mn$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> /dev/cua works but when I try to use /dev/cufa to use flow, pppd says that the devise is busy. I am not sure why it is doing this, maybe it is because i have tip and cu pointing to two different devises, but i don't think so. If anybody has suggests to fix this, please let me know. Always thanks in advance.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is it just me, or does NEXTIME suck? Date: 10 Nov 1997 18:02:39 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <647i7v$e58$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> References: <3466a792.11913818@news.wco.com> mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) writes: > The NEXTIME sound driver patches it's way around this problem. It Does this mean that it's useful for running anything which uses the SoundKit or is it just for NEXTIME ? -bat.
From: mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RTF to ASCII converter needed Date: 12 Nov 1997 00:32:25 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <64atep$njq$1@news2.digex.net> References: <64a774$lk$1@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@orion.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) wrote: >Can anyone recommend a method for converting NeXT RTF documents to ascii >text? Specifically, I need to convert the RTF text used in NeXTmail messages. > >Someone has recommended http://www.primate.wisc.edu/software/RTF/, which >is an RTF converter. But I am having problems compiling this under >NextStep 3.3. If you have successfully compiled this, I would appreciate >your advice. > >-dave Umm...why don't you just forward the mail to yourself as a regular email message? That should do all the converting you need... -- *mikelea@access.digex.net* "imperious, angry, furious, extreme in all things, with a disturbance in the moral imagination unlike any the world has ever known-there you have me in a nutshell: and one more thing, kill me or take me as I am, because I will not change." -de Sade
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RTF to ASCII converter needed Date: 12 Nov 1997 02:40:04 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <64b4u4$l2e$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <64a774$lk$1@netnews.upenn.edu> <64atep$njq$1@news2.digex.net> mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill) wrote: >anstine@orion.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) wrote: >>Can anyone recommend a method for converting NeXT RTF documents to ascii >>text? Specifically, I need to convert the RTF text used in NeXTmail >messages. >> >>Someone has recommended http://www.primate.wisc.edu/software/RTF/, which >>is an RTF converter. But I am having problems compiling this under >>NextStep 3.3. If you have successfully compiled this, I would appreciate >>your advice. >> >>-dave > >Umm...why don't you just forward the mail to yourself as a regular >email message? That should do all the converting you need... [snip] I like the email idea. Straight forward! But for a lower level solution that is already installed on the system check out /usr/bin/rtf-ascii Example: userPrompt> /usr/bin/rtf-ascii <input.rtf >output.txt Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: grund63303@aol.com (Grund63303) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FS: Loaded Turbo Slab Date: 12 Nov 1997 03:59:09 GMT Message-ID: <19971112035901.WAA10810@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com TurboColor Slab 64/1gig 21" Hitachi monitor Both adb and non adb soundboxes, mice, and cables. All for $800.00 obo Chicago area
From: "JCB (Medisys)" <Medisys.@Wanadoo.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Recherche NextStep pour Intel Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:50:24 +0100 Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Message-ID: <64bqb7$14q$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> Question : Ou trouver OpenStep pour les plateforme intel ? Merci d'avance ...
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RTF to ASCII converter needed Date: 12 Nov 1997 09:27:10 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <64bspf$qdl@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <64a774$lk$1@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@orion.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) wrote: >Can anyone recommend a method for converting NeXT RTF documents to ascii >text? Specifically, I need to convert the RTF text used in NeXTmail messages. <<<snip>>> Open the .rtf in Edit.app and pressing Comman+Shift+r. This works only if you don't have to many docs, of cause. -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Questions re: mkmagic.sh script Date: 10 Nov 1997 18:50:13 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <647l15$4oi$8@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <641sdu$675$1@news.cyberus.ca> Christopher Rath <crath@cyberus.ca> wrote: > If one builds a MiniBoot disk, then mkmagic.sh attempts to copy a few > executables onto the disk that I don't have in my system image (as installed, > by me, from CD). Specifically, > > clri, dcheck, fsirand, & icheck I believe those utilities have long been replaced by 'fsck'. I'd bet your 'mkmagic.sh' script you mention is badly outdated.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is it just me, or does NEXTIME suck? Date: 13 Nov 1997 01:51:16 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <64dmek$s83$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <63h7v2$7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <63ia75$t44$2@news.rwth-aachen.de> <6414p3$1fr$1@news.xmission.com> <3466a792.11913818@news.wco.com> <649ubh$rve@transfer.stratus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <649ubh$rve@transfer.stratus.com> John Randolph wrote: > In <3466a792.11913818@news.wco.com> Mike Paquette wrote: > > [description of Mike's workaround for brain-dead intel sound hardware > snipped] > > And this too, will go in my file of "why Mike Paquette is far more patient > with lousy hardware than I will ever be." Hear hear! I have messages from Mike dating back to '31 Jul 95' and have been unendingly helped by him... TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org s the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Questions re: mkmagic.sh script Date: 13 Nov 1997 01:41:25 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <64dls5$s83$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <641sdu$675$1@news.cyberus.ca> <647l15$4oi$8@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/mkmagic.sh Use at your own risk. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems with PPP? Beta test my app! Date: 12 Nov 1997 18:47:19 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <64ctjn$iep@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm working on yet another front end to PPP and I'm looking for people to give it a test drive and tell me what they think. I've only tested it on my system (NeXTStation w/ OS 4.2), so I would like to know how it runs on other platforms... Also, I am very interested in hearing about how I can make it even easier to use. APP NAME: LogOn VERSION: 0.8 beta OS: Openstep for Mach (tested on 4.2 only) PLATFORMS: NeXT, Intel, Sun SIZE: 1.37 MB compressed 3.8 MB installed FAT 1.53 MB installed for single platform WHERE: ftp://wendy.ucsd.edu/pub/Mark/LogOn_00.80.NIS.tar.gz LogOn is intended for novice PPP users who just want an application that launches and kills PPP that is both simple to install and easy to use. The goal was to provide an app that frees users from having to deal with chat scripts, options files, or pap-secrets files. It is not an application that helps you install PPP or configure PPP, but rather one that (hopefully) shields you from ever having to know the nitty-gritty details of pppd or chat. Installing LogOn should be as easy as entering your account name, password and phone number. Likewise, using LogOn should be as simple as saying "I want to connect to Netcom from Home using PPP 2.2." That is, setting your Local Location to Home, your Server Location to Netcom, your PPP Option set to PPP 2.2, and pressing the Log On button. FEATURES: * Graphic front end to ppp. * Maintains unlimited number of "Server" locations: Saves account name, password, server phone number, chat script... Have one for each account you own... * Maintains unlimited number of "Local" locations: Saves modem initializations, phone prefix/postfix, long distance access codes... Have one for home, one for work, one for school, etc * Maintains unlimited number of "Option" files. Just like /etc/ppp/options except with text fields, buttons, etc Set up one for ftp'ing and one for more interactive use... * To use, just connect a "Server" Location with a "Local" Location and press the LogOn button. * "Autodetect" feature - no chat scripts! * "Autoredial" feature - keeps trying until ppp is active * Launches apps you select automatically when ppp is established * Changes signatures to match your "virtual" location. * Can fetch pop mail for you when ppp is established (You supply a program like popOver) * Can purge mail queue when ppp is established. * A clock tracks time on line. * Log Window displays ppp log file (or other you select) * PPP Expert and Novice users - limits access to certain elements of LogOn to experts only. * Users can choose whether to use an external script or LogOn to bring up connection. Likewise to bring down a connection. * Context Help to guide you through the set up process. Please download it and give it a try. And, of course, please let me know of any comments or suggestions you might have. Thank you for trying LogOn! -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: anstine@orion.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RTF to ASCII converter needed Date: 12 Nov 1997 19:07:58 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <64cuqe$npf$1@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <64a774$lk$1@netnews.upenn.edu> <64atep$njq$1@news2.digex.net> <64b4u4$l2e$1@brie.direct.ca> ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: : mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill) wrote: : >anstine@orion.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) wrote: : >>Can anyone recommend a method for converting NeXT RTF documents to ascii : >>text? Specifically, I need to convert the RTF text used in NeXTmail : >messages. : >> : >>Someone has recommended http://www.primate.wisc.edu/software/RTF/, which : >>is an RTF converter. But I am having problems compiling this under : >>NextStep 3.3. If you have successfully compiled this, I would appreciate : >>your advice. : >> : >>-dave : > : >Umm...why don't you just forward the mail to yourself as a regular : >email message? That should do all the converting you need... : [snip] That solution works, but is only practical for one or two messages. We're writing a program that converts NextMail mailboxes to MIME compliant mail files. We need to convert the RTF text in a NextMail attachment's index.rtf to ascii text, which a MIME client such as Eudora will understand. On a side note, if anyone has a program that converts NextMail mailboxes directly into Eudora mailboxes, I'd love to hear from you. : But for a lower level solution that is already installed on the system check : out /usr/bin/rtf-ascii : Example: : userPrompt> /usr/bin/rtf-ascii <input.rtf >output.txt That's the ticket! Works perfectly for our needs. -dave
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Recherche NextStep pour Intel Date: 12 Nov 1997 21:09:50 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <64d5uu$cf4$11@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <64bqb7$14q$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> "JCB (Medisys)" <Medisys.@Wanadoo.fr> wrote: > Question : Ou trouver OpenStep pour les plateforme intel ? Cool, la Francais...mais je parle comme-ci, comme-ca. On trouve OpenStep/Intel dans <URL=http://www.next.com/OtherFiles/Feedback.html>. Aussi, regardez <URL=http://software.apple.com/openstep>. > Merci d'avance ... Pas de rien. -Chuck PS: Hey, Apple-- it's time to update your webpages: From <URL=http://software.apple.com/openstep/products/os_mach/os_mach.html> "OPENSTEP 4.1 for Mach (also known as NEXTSTEP Release 4) is an upgrade for the NEXTSTEP environment that includes enhanced features for users and developers. For developers, upgrading is also the first step toward migrating your current NEXTSTEP applications to Windows NT, Solaris, and Apple's new operating system, Rhapsody. [ ... ] RELEASE 4.2 WILL BE AVAILABLE SOON...." :-) Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: "Carl A. Carlson" <carl@tfo.arizona.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xnext and .xinitrc Date: 12 Nov 1997 16:51:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <3469DF04.3D33@tfo.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone give me an example of .xinitrc that will properly setup Xnext (ver X11R6) on a color turbo runing OpenStep 4.1? The one I have: xterm -geom... exec vtwm doesn't work. The server status window says command not found for both xterm and vtwm. I'm pretty green when it comes to UNIX and NeXT. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Carl Carlson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: glenn.larson@imagauto.SPAM.BLECH.com (Glenn A. Larson, Jr.) Subject: Looking for a TIFF 6.0 JPEG image file Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Organization: Imaging Automation, Inc. Message-ID: <EJL43B.3w8@mv.mv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:30:46 GMT Hi all, I am in need of a TIFF 6.0 JPEG image file to do some internal testing at our company. However, since most TIFF reader/writers now implement TIFF technical note 2 JPEG, I have had little luck finding or generating my own file. I understand that NeXT supports/supported the old-style TIFF 6.0 JPEG and thought that this might be a good place to ask. So, if anyone has a TIFF JPEG file in this format, and you don't mind sharing it, could you please send it to glenn.larson@imagauto.com (don't reply to my spam blocking address). Or, if anyone knows where I could find TIFF files in this format (FTP, WWW, etc.), that would also be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any assistance, -glenn -- Glenn A. Larson, Jr. Imaging Automation, Inc. To reply via e-mail, remove the SPAM.BLECH from my return address.
From: nospam@orion.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RTF to ASCII converter needed Date: 13 Nov 1997 16:41:13 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <64faj9$2s0$1@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <64a774$lk$1@netnews.upenn.edu> <64atep$njq$1@news2.digex.net> <64dn10$s83$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma (nospam@all.please) wrote: : > That solution works, but is only practical for one or two messages. We're : > writing a program that converts NextMail mailboxes to MIME compliant mail : > files. We need to convert the RTF text in a NextMail attachment's : > index.rtf to ascii text, which a MIME client such as Eudora will : > understand. : Get 'mbox2bsd' out of : ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/mailapp-utilities.2.0.NIHS.bs.tar.gz : ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/mailapp-utilities.2.0.README : A perl script..... : mbox2bsd ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox |openfile This script doesn't reattach NextMail attachments. We need to do this, as well as convert them to MIME. -dave Replace my username with anstine
From: "Carl A. Carlson" <carl@tfo.arizona.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Installing Xnext Date: 13 Nov 1997 15:04:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <346B178D.50FD@tfo.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have installed Xnext (X11R6) on my Turbo Color slab with ADB, but it can't be seen by my X application (xteddy.xapp), i.e. xteddy says: Cannot connect to Xserver. The installation instructions are sketchy. Could someone confirm (or not) that I have used the proper procedure? Here is what I did: 1) ftp'd all files to a directory named /me/Apps/X. Files are: Xnext-basicdist..., Xnext-dist.N.b..., Xnext-fonts.pkg, Xnext- server.pkg, and Xnext.app.HIHS... 2) installed basicdist.pkg, server.pkg, and fonts.pkg 3) doubled-clicked dist.. and app.NIHS... 4) installed a copy of a known good .xinitrc at / 5) ran Xnext.app, set prefs, re-booted, ran Xnext, and ran xteddy. I get a dark window called Xnext screen, but xteddy can't see it. There are a lot of files under /usr/X11R6, but there are many more under /me/Apps/X. Do these belong under /usr/X11R6? Any suggestions? Thanks, Carl
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: yuwaraj@ecf.toronto.edu (Murugathas Yuwaraj) Subject: Non-X web browser for NS3.0? Sender: news@ecf.toronto.edu (News Administrator) Message-ID: <EJM0oM.9x7@ecf.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:14:46 GMT Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility Hello everyone Are (is) there any web browser for NS3.0 available? If NS3.0 native is not available, has anyone attempted to port Arena (to run under X ofcourse)? Right now I am experimenting with the use of Xnext and Netscape from a Linux box. Was wondering if there are other alternatives. Thank you. Regards, Thas
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From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Non-X web browser for NS3.0? Date: 14 Nov 1997 08:45:08 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <64h32k$56j$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <EJM0oM.9x7@ecf.toronto.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: yuwaraj@ecf.toronto.edu There is a very old copy of OmniWeb, but it lacks many things you will probably want. ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.1.0/OmniWeb.1.0.N.b.tar.Z TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
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From: gottlieb@junior1.nosc.mil (Robert Gottlieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: zip drives on mach Date: 14 Nov 1997 17:16:35 GMT Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA 92147 Message-ID: <64i11j$a7@poisson.nosc.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm pretty sure this is an FAQ but I haven't found the faq for this group, so I'd be greatfull if someone could point me to it. Otherwise, here's the problem: I'm trying to get a zip drive to work on an intel box on the parallel port via Openstep 4.2 for Mach. Is this possible? If so how? TIA, Robert Gottlieb -- gottlieb@nosc.mil "The above opinion(s)/statement(s) are not that of SAIC nor NRaD/SPAWAR"
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From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Virtual Pages app Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:37:21 -0800 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971114093303.10689A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Reply-To: " Is there an app for NS 3.3 for Intel that will allow me to have multiple virtual workspaces? For example, I would like to click on a mini-grid and select a different Workspace to work in, and later click back on the grid and get back to my original workspace. Thanks. Rob rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
From: hoppet@cs.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Hoppe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.win95,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows Subject: How to print from a Windows 95 PC on a NeXTstation's (NS 3.0) printer? Date: 14 Nov 1997 18:18:34 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <64i4lq$kbl$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Netland'ers imagine, you have a NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 3.0 with a NeXT printer. Imagine further, you recently bought a PC or Laptop running Windows 95. Wouldn't it be nice to use the NeXT as a print server for the PC? Of course, you need to build your own personal LAN connecting both via thin ethernet. But then? Actually I am facing this problem at the moment. I got both computers connect via thin ethernet, and prepared the NeXT according to the description in the network and system administration documentation. But during boot time the NeXT does not even recognize that it is connected to some net. The PC was manually configured on the NeXT as a host in the LAN, but it too cannot access the ether. It appears to me that I need some kind of network software. Even though one can choose in the network configuration under Windows 95 different network clients from Banyan, FTP Software, Inc, MS, Novell and SunSoft non of them seems to allow access via plain TCP/IP. What to do then? How to hook up Windows 95 computers to arbitrary Unix systems? Does anybody has some clues? Or even solved this problem already? Has anyone out there build a mixed network consisting of Windows 95 computers and NeXT's? Running NeXTSTEP 3.0? Any advice on this topic will be appreciated. Thanx in advance Thomas Hoppe -- Dr. Thomas Hoppe email : hoppet@cs.tu-berlin.de New email address : T.Hoppe@Berkom.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: echu@ceco.com Subject: Re: Problems installing OPENSTEP 4.2 SPARC Message-ID: <34612e3e.513170880@ceco> Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. References: <63qg57$sd5$1@elnws01.mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 02:41:35 GMT Don't think openstep runs one the 5/170's sorry HTH eric c echu@ceco.com On Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:09:49 -0600, Dan <"dan "@at recycled .dot net> wrote: >I'm trying to install OPENSTEP 4.2 on a SUN SPARCstation 5/170 with >160Mb RAM, 2Gb internal disk, TGX+ graphics card, SunPC 5x86 card, and >SunSwift Combo FastEthernet/WideSCSI card. I have tried both with the >SunPC and SunSwift cards in there and with them removed, and I'm getting >something like this... > >Note that when the aforementioned hardware is removed or present the >Memory access exception address (See below) will differ; this is why I >think it has something to do with it, but where do I go from here? > >ok boot cdrom >(press -v for verbose output) >(prompt for language) >(type 1 to prepare to install) >---> 1 >Loading OPENSTEP >Loading mach_kernel >Reading OPENSTEP configuration >Loading /usr/standalone/sparc/sarld >Loading binary for CG6FrameBuffer device driver >Loading binary for SunLE device driver >Loading binary for SCSAController device driver >Starting OPENSTEP >NeXT MACH 4.2: Wed Apr 16 13:54:38 PDT 1997; >root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk183-84.obj~2/RELEASE_SPARC >physical memory = 160.00 megabytes >using 255 buffers containing 1.99 megabytes of memory >available memory = 152.83 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 4c6b >Ethernet address = blah >espdma0 at space 0 0x78400000 >esp0 at space 0 0x78800000 pri 4 (onboard) >ledma0 at space 0 0x78400010 >zs0 at space 0 0x71100000 pri 12 (onboard) >zs1 at space 0 0x71000000 pri 12 (onboard) >Memory access exception (1,1,1e) >Waiting for remote debugger connection > >Thanks! >Any help appreciated. >dan at recycled dot net
From: MAM VAN STEENSEL <mvanstee@baserv.uci.kun.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB NS 3.3 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 00:05:46 +0100 Organization: Universitair Centrum Informatievoorziening, The Netherlands Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.971115000341.45882B-100000@baserv.uci.kun.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I have NS 3.2 for my Cube but I need some install CD's; I really don't have a backup. 3.2/3.3 OK, but prefer developer version (for Black hardware that is). Cheers Maurice van Steensel Human Genetics Nijmegen - tel +31-243613946 Molecular dysmorphology, computational genetics ----- BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK ----- Version: 3.1 GMD/ d++ s-:- a? C++++ ULASX++++$ P+>++++ L+++ E+++ W++ N++ o-- k+++++ w--- O- M- V-- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP- t++ 5-- X !R tv- b++++ DI+++ D+G>++++ e+++++ h--- r+++ x+++>+++++>* ----- END GEEK CODE BLOCK -----
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.win95,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows Subject: Re: How to print from a Windows 95 PC on a NeXTstation's (NS 3.0) printer? Date: 14 Nov 1997 20:06:22 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <64iavv$rhc$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <64i4lq$kbl$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> hoppet@cs.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Hoppe) wrote: > Hi Netland'ers > > imagine, you have a NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 3.0 with a NeXT > printer. Imagine further, you recently bought a PC or Laptop running > Windows 95. Wouldn't it be nice to use the NeXT as a print server for > the PC? Check out Samba, which is free. Alternatively, you can probably get some (possibly commercial) software for Win95 which lets it talk to Berkeley LPD print spools, which is the print system used under NEXTSTEP [modulo NetInfo print support]. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Non-X web browser for NS3.0? Date: 14 Nov 1997 20:09:39 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <64ib63$rhc$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <EJM0oM.9x7@ecf.toronto.edu> yuwaraj@ecf.toronto.edu (Murugathas Yuwaraj) wrote: > Hello everyone > > Are (is) there any web browser for NS3.0 available? If NS3.0 > native is not available, has anyone attempted to port > Arena (to run under X ofcourse)? Sure-- for one thing, there's Tim Berners-Lee's original WorldWideWeb.app. For another, there's the text-based Lynx. I also seem to recall that the original OmniWeb 1.x versions ran on NS 3.0. However, you could also continue using X to remotely display a modern version of Netscape to your NeXT, depending on your needs.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Virtual Pages app Date: 14 Nov 1997 20:10:27 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <64ib7j$rhc$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971114093303.10689A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> wrote: > Is there an app for NS 3.3 for Intel that will allow me to have multiple > virtual workspaces? For example, I would like to click on a mini-grid > and select a different Workspace to work in, and later click back on the > grid and get back to my original workspace. Thanks. Check out VirtSpace and WideScreen.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.win95,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows Subject: Re: How to print from a Windows 95 PC on a NeXTstation's (NS 3.0) printer? Date: 15 Nov 1997 01:25:13 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <64itlp$are$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <64i4lq$kbl$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> hoppet@cs.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Hoppe) wrote: >Hi Netland'ers > >imagine, you have a NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 3.0 with a NeXT >printer. Imagine further, you recently bought a PC or Laptop running >Windows 95. Wouldn't it be nice to use the NeXT as a print server for >the PC? Samba is the usual choice here. I on the other hand didn't know of Samba when I did this so used something else. Check out my web page about it. http://www.bcog.org/~dreely/OpenStep/printing.html The advantage of Samba is you can share more than just the printer. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Virtual Pages app Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:33:38 -0800 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971114183207.10991A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971114093303.10689A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> <64ib7j$rhc$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> In-Reply-To: <64ib7j$rhc$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> "Reply-To: " I could only find VirtSpace for NeXT (not Intel) and my impression is that WideScreen is a pretty early beta. Any other options or comments on these two? Thanks. On 14 Nov 1997, Chuck Swiger wrote: > "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> wrote: > > Is there an app for NS 3.3 for Intel that will allow me to have multiple > > virtual workspaces? For example, I would like to click on a mini-grid > > and select a different Workspace to work in, and later click back on the > > grid and get back to my original workspace. Thanks. > > Check out VirtSpace and WideScreen.... > > -Chuck > > Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer > ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- > I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vrotney@netcom.com (William Paul Vrotney) Subject: Re: Non-X web browser for NS3.0? In-Reply-To: Chuck Swiger's message of 14 Nov 1997 20:09:39 GMT Message-ID: <vrotneyEJnzqw.55u@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <EJM0oM.9x7@ecf.toronto.edu> <64ib63$rhc$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 01:49:44 GMT Sender: vrotney@netcom8.netcom.com In article <64ib63$rhc$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> writes: > > yuwaraj@ecf.toronto.edu (Murugathas Yuwaraj) wrote: > > Hello everyone > > > > Are (is) there any web browser for NS3.0 available? If NS3.0 > > native is not available, has anyone attempted to port > > Arena (to run under X ofcourse)? > > Sure-- for one thing, there's Tim Berners-Lee's original WorldWideWeb.app. > For another, there's the text-based Lynx. Also, don't forget w3 under Emacs. -- William P. Vrotney - vrotney@netcom.com
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Virtual Pages app Date: 15 Nov 1997 06:31:26 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <64jfju$dfj$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971114093303.10689A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> <64ib7j$rhc$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.971114183207.10991A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu In <Pine.NXT.3.96.971114183207.10991A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: > I could only find VirtSpace for NeXT (not Intel) and my impression is that > WideScreen is a pretty early beta. Any other options or comments on these > two? VirtSpace's Home page is : http://www.nyro.com/NYRO/VS.htmld/ There are all 4 archs there. WideScreen works well, and is free with source code. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 8bit telnet/Terminal.app Date: 3 Nov 1997 17:12:50 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <63l0mi$c3n$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <7xen50jwwb.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.camelot.de> wrote: > Is there a way to enter and see 8 bit characters when using > Terminal.app or when telnetting into my NeXT Station? For entering, sure-- check out the VT100 preferences (Cmd-3), and select the "Alternate key sets high bit" radio button. The display side is a little more complex since the standard fonts supplied with NEXTSTEP don't provide the high-bit VT100 graphics set. I think you'd need a third-party solution like Cables, which provides a more thorough VTxxx terminal emulation. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Questions re: mkmagic.sh script Date: 11 Nov 1997 19:15:43 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <64aasv$cf4$6@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <641sdu$675$1@news.cyberus.ca> <647l15$4oi$8@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <iwklnywaxj9.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> wrote: > Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> writes: >> I believe those utilities have long been replaced by 'fsck'. >> I'd bet your 'mkmagic.sh' script you mention is badly outdated.... > > Any idea where can I pick up a current copy of the mkmagic.sh script? No, but you might check the standard NeXT FTP archives-- I believe they have bootable floppy images available that you might want to look at. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: akira@valley.xo.com (Doug McClure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone know if CDDesigner's authors are still alive? Date: 11 Nov 1997 17:52:01 GMT Organization: @Home Network Message-ID: <64a601$43v$1@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com> I have been trying to contact the folks over at Gehle Software in Germany regarding a problem with their CDDesigner product for over a week now. Does anyone know these guys? I'd appreciate any help in contacting them. Apparently regular email isn't working, as I've sent a number of messages but have not heard from them since Nov 1. -d
From: akira@home.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone know if CDDesigner's authors are still alive? (pt2) Date: 11 Nov 1997 17:56:39 GMT Organization: @Home Network Message-ID: <64a68n$4he$1@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com> Previous post had an incorrect from address. I have been trying to contact the folks over at Gehle Software in Germany regarding a problem with their CDDesigner product for over a week now. Does anyone know these guys? I'd appreciate any help in contacting them. Apparently regular email isn't working, as I've sent a number of messages but have not heard from them since Nov 1. -doug
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CDR Survival Package Beta available Date: 11 Nov 1997 22:51:08 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <64angs$7b3$1@news.seicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Howdy folks! I just put my CDR Survival Package in somehow untested beta form on www.this.net. It should be available in my download area. *** What is the CDR Survival Package? CDRPack is a collection of public available tools and some notes how to use them. Using the tools in CDRPack you should be able to produce ISO Rockridge CDRs on NeXTSTEP and OpenStep using a CD Writer on-the-fly without the need of an image. This works even over a network, however YMMV. *** What tools are inside the Package? - a 'mkisofs' binary for m68k and Intel (To create the ISO data stream) - a 'cdbuf' binary for m68k and Intel (To buffer the data stream for nscdwrite) - a 'nscdwrite' binary for m68k and Intel (To burn the data stream to CDR) - the sources for above tools or URLs where to find it. - some notes how the usage. *** What writer are supported? nscdwrite only supports some older devices: - Philips/IMS/Kodak - Yamaha (CDR-100/CDR-102 only - NO CDR-400!) - HP In the foreseeable future I will port 'cdrecord' which supports more devices however for the moment this is all you get. *** Does it have a GUI? No. All tools are command line driven. However if someone would like to write a wrapper I would not complain, but please tell me about it :-)... *** What does it cost? Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nichts. Nada. The survival pack is free, however you are bound to the license for every used tool. Attention: A lot is untested in this package, in any case please proceed with caution and backup any valuable data before using all this and provide me with feedback. All I can say is that it works for me. I am not responsibe for any damages or data loss, see enclosed license. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Michel Coste <nospam@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem with perl Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 21:33:41 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Message-ID: <EJnnw6.738@micmac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In some cases (*) I have the message: "Couldn't start up the shell you requested. Check to be sure that it exists and that you can execute it." I guess something is misconfigured but I don't know what... (* especially when trying to compile PGP 5.0... The file mklang.pl can't be opened.) mc
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19971116.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19971109.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19971102.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 Nov 1997 00:00:00 +0100 Organization: Private System, London SW19, UK Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Sep-02 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-Nov-13 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets can be found on the Internet: <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is it just me, or does NEXTIME suck? Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 06:40:11 GMT Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <346e9230.5926022@news.wco.com> References: <63h7v2$7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <63ia75$t44$2@news.rwth-aachen.de> <6414p3$1fr$1@news.xmission.com> <3466a792.11913818@news.wco.com> <646bbj$605$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> On 10 Nov 1997 06:58:59 GMT, nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: >I tried to install that sound driver, but didn't notice any change.... Unfortunately, the NEXTIME sound driver only affects NEXTIME sound playback. SoundKit operations are not improved. Worse, the NEXTIME driver can't make any improvement with some hardware configurations. For some reason, the SoundBlaster 16 has always been particularly troublesome. I don't know if the problem is in the device driver or the hardware. Mike Paquette mpaque AT wco.com (Damn junk-mailers!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: IBM CDRM00201 likes CDDA Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EJq3xD.K8I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 05:15:13 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo I just tried OmniCD with our lab's IBM CDRM00201 and CDDA capture works fine on my non-Turbo colour slab. I edited the deviceinfo.dict file and duplicated the model-less Toshiba line, replacing Toshiba by IBM (previous disassembly of the IBM drive revealed it to be a stealth Toshiba drive--XM3701B, maybe?) Anyway, I have no idea whether this will work with all IBM drives so YMMV. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <11552879051630@digifix.com> Date: 16 Nov 1997 05:00:31 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <19598879656442@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: compiling infozip's zip 2.2 on OS 4.2 Date: 16 Nov 1997 14:03:23 -0600 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network Message-ID: <64njib$nir@plains.NoDak.edu> has anyone been able to get infozip's Zip 2.2 to copmile under OS 4.2? i'm running this on an intel machine. first i tried copmiling without encryption and it copmiles but i get errors with binary files. i switched to the C routines instead of assembly routines and everything works great now. well, then i tried to compile the encryption enabled verson (i occasionally encrypt some zip files) well, this bombs right at the linking stage with undefined symbols for _tcgetattr _tcsetattr is libposix completely gone with OS 4.2? anyways. if someone did get zip with encryption to compile and run, let me know how. or even better, if you're from outside of the USA could you upload source and binaries to peanuts? or if someone still running NEXTSTEP 3.3 could compile it, test it out (like i said, assembly routines may have to be removed) then upload it that'd kick ass too. andy -- ----------------- Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT, MIME or SUN mail OK -------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - ------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu -----------------------------
From: ncollin@polarnet.com Subject: ppp Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:02:06 -0600 Message-ID: <879723114.19924@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Deja News Posting Service I'm trying to get mail working on my NeXT cube. I've installed ppp 2.2 dialup, popover and everything else. I do connect to my ISP, I can surf with OmniWeb. When I go to send mail using the Mailapp I get back a message invalid host cube. I have my hostname set to cube. I've tried different hostnames but nothing seems to work. Do I have to ask my ISP for a hostname? It does retrieve mail from my ISP but I can't send mail. I've also checked my sendmail.cf and it is set to my ISP. Please help, I'm so close. Thank you Nathan Collin ncollin@polarnet.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: Jay Jacobson <nin@goodnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: CD Rom FS Type Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 00:57:43 -0700 Organization: GoodNet Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971117005044.1027A-100000@goodguy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a quick question...I am faced with having to reinstall the OS on my Black Slab. The only problem is that I do not have an external SCSI CD Rom drive to attach to my NeXT Station. I already have my Linux box mounted on the NeXT machine, and I have two CD drives on the PC. I would like to be able to mount the NeXTStep CD on my Linux box and then just reinstall NeXTStep via NFS. However, I have tried every file system type that 'mount' (in Linux) supports and none of them work for my NeXTStep CD. Anyone know what file system type the CD is? The CD is in a goldish/brown colored cardboard-type case with green letters on the front that say "NeXTSTEP RELEASE 3" The CD itself is black/green two-tone and says "NeXTSTEP Release 3.0" Any ideas? Please CC any replies to "jay@good.net" Thanks! ~Jay - J a y J a c o b s o n - ----------------------- - Network Engineer, ISP -- 602.303.9500 -- 888.Good.Net - jay@good.net -- www.goodnet.com/~nin
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint: copy this color HERE to that pixel THERE Date: 17 Nov 1997 23:41:11 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <64qkmn$nsm$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <64q19j$all$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In-Reply-To: <64q19j$all$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> On 11/17/97, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > >Pardon my ineptitude, but is there a way in WetPaint to do: >``I have this color here, and I want to copy that exact same color to >this pixel/are over here?'' The magnifying glass on the color panel is the color picker. Just click it to get the color-picker cursor, point that at any color you want, and click. This puts the color in the color-panel's well, and you can drag it from there to the inspector-panel color well of any drawing tool. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. (403) 492-2834 gfin@psych.ualberta.ca http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Mysterious NextStep Login Window Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 06:35:09 -0800 Organization: UC Berkeley Message-ID: <mrb-1311970635090001@dialup79-berkeley.autobahn.org> As many of you are no doubt aware, there seems to be a number of undocumented features in the NeXTstep login window. I am using 3.1 on two NeXTstation Turbos (one color, one mono), but I'm sure the same holds for other models and versions of the OS. I'm posting this in hopes that some people find it interesting, and hopefully someone has additional knowledge to share. DIRECT LOGIN COMMANDS Just type these in the login text field. You shouldn't be asked for a password. I haven't seen any of these documented, although they seem to be fairly common knowledge. Some I guessed at, and one I heard about. The rest were discovered by dragging /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/loginwindow onto the Edit.app program and sifting through the garbage. "power" - Powers down the machine. "reboot" - Restarts the machine. "exit" - Quits the loginwindow and restarts it. "console" - Brings up a single shell window, similar to Rom Monitor, where you can log in as if the NeXT were a dumb terminal. "rebootdos" - Not much on my machine (same as "exit" apparently) but presumably would be different on an Intel machine, perhaps booting from a DOS partition. "rebootnext" - Reboots the machine a la "reboot" LOGINWINDOW ARGUMENTS Some of these are documented by NeXT - they go in the loginwindow invocation in /etc/ttys (make sure you use quotes). I started looking through the loginwindow program because I was trying to find a way to get the ScreenSaver to come up faster. You can do this in 3.3 through a Preferences module. As you might expect, I found some undocumented arguments, but not everything worked consistently. "-TimeToDim ####" - Where #### is the number of seconds you want loginwindow to wait before dimming. The default is 1800 (30 minutes). "-ScreenSaverEnabled Yes" - This appears to be the default, but if you use "No" instead, the screen will only dim, and not give you the glowing cube. "-PowerOffDisabled true" - This is documented as disabling the power and restart buttons along with the power key. It also prevents typing "power" in the login field from doing so - it just restarts the loginwindow. Other commands perhaps, but I couldn't tell: "DebugHook" "DryRun" A big problem I had with these arguments, including the ones documented by NeXT, was that they didn't seem to work consistently. When the loginwindow was first loaded, everything worked. However, after I logged in, I could use the power key again (the docs said I wouldn't be able to), and when I logged out again, none of the arguments seemed to work any more. Typing "exit" to restart the loginwindow brought back the functionality, but it doesn't seem very useful as a security device (disabling power-off that is) if anyone with an account can do it after logging on, and anyone else can after someone has logged off (assuming they didn't restart loginwindow). Does anyone have a fix for this? EVEN MORE WEIRDNESS Searching further, I found this: /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/ScreenSaver.bundle/English.lproj/ScreenSaver.nib This is an Interface Builder file (!). When you open it, you see the composition of a window that appears to give you some control for modifying the time for the ScreenSaver to come on. It also has the option to choose between an "Image" and a "Moving Login Window." Does anyone know of a way to bring this window up? This is why I was initially trying to find more commands to type at the login: prompt. Anyway, thanks for reading this far. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty curious about any other Easter Eggs which may appear here. Brendan Bolles
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint: copy this color HERE to that pixel THERE Date: 17 Nov 1997 23:28:54 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <64qjvm$klc$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <64q19j$all$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > >Pardon my ineptitude, but is there a way in WetPaint to do: > >``I have this color here, and I want to copy that exact same color to this >pixel/are > over here?'' > >If so, how? I haven't been able to figure it out, but I haven't had time to >research it as much as I probably should.... > Tim, I am not sure if this answers 'exactly' what you need, but I'd have a look at the 'stamp' tool. You place an outline of a square somewhere (source) and then click somewhere else (destination) to copy the colors (content) of the square to the area where you click. If you drag, the 'source' square moves along. This is an _EXCELLENT_ too for retouching photographs. It essentially allows you to 'paint' with non-uniform colors. Very cool indeed, you cannot tell the difference between the original and what you painted. I use it to repair people's hair, clean the background etc ... Shift click moves the source square to a new spot. You can set the size and edge blurring of the tool. (You can have a look at my flood page under http://www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek where I edited many of the thumbnails of images that were too narrow to fit reasonably the thumbnail format. Compare them to the larger originals and you will notice that some thumbnails are much wider - for example the rubber boat has a fake left tip). Good luck. Rudy
From: Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Questions re: mkmagic.sh script Date: 10 Nov 1997 23:02:02 -0500 Organization: Northern Telecom Ltd., Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <iwklnywaxj9.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> References: <641sdu$675$1@news.cyberus.ca> <647l15$4oi$8@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> writes: > I believe those utilities have long been replaced by 'fsck'. > I'd bet your 'mkmagic.sh' script you mention is badly outdated.... Any idea where can I pick up a current copy of the mkmagic.sh script? I check http://www.next.com but it doesn't appear to be publicly posted? thanks for your reply, Christopher === Christopher Rath === crath@nortel.ca === (613) 765-3141 === Northern Telecom Ltd. | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint: copy this color HERE to that pixel THERE Date: 18 Nov 1997 02:14:05 GMT Organization: MiscKit Development Message-ID: <64qtld$vq$1@news.xmission.com> References: <64q19j$all$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <64qkmn$nsm$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam wrote: > On 11/17/97, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > >Pardon my ineptitude, but is there a way in WetPaint to do: > >``I have this color here, and I want to copy that exact same color to > >this pixel/are over here?'' > > The magnifying glass on the color panel is the color picker. Just click > it to get the color-picker cursor, point that at any color you want, > and click. This puts the color in the color-panel's well, and you can > drag it from there to the inspector-panel color well of any drawing > tool. That's the real slw way to China. Very cumbersome. Here's what I do. I click the border of the Inspector's color well to make it white. Now, any color selected in the Color Panel automatically appears in the inspector. That's one step saved. Next, try COMMAND-clicking on an image while you have a drawing tool active (fill, scribble pencil, line, etc.). You'll note that a command click on an image pixel causes that color to appear in the color panel instead of painting that pixel with the current color. ie, it works just like the magnifying glass, which is used to "pick up" a color. So, command click on the color you want to use next for drawing, and then draw. It is that simple. This in conjunction with the stamper tool can make anyone a dangerous image retoucher... :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: stwillis@ews.uiuc.edu (willis sean timothy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xnext.app Date: 18 Nov 1997 02:47:50 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <64qvkm$k0i$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I was wondering if anyone has had any luck running Xnext.app for displaying remotely running software on their local NeXT box. Iseem to be having some problems with this, as I can get the "Xnext screen" to pop up, but the Status window is showing: "Xnext screen server version 2.05 started. Setup complete for display 0 width: 800 height: 600 Using spp: 3, bps: 4, bpp: 16; 60 slice(s); padded width: 1600; Timing results: none. ~/.xinitrc: No such file or directory" I'm attempting to telnet into the remote machine and run the command: "setenv DISPLAY arh0568.urh.uiuc.edu:0.0" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ my machine I'm running NS 3.3 on a Turbo Color Slab. If you have any ideas, please either post or e-mail. Thanks. sean -- Sean Willis : stwillis@uiuc.edu Aero/ Astro Engineering : http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/stwillis University of Illinois @ Urbana : " 'Cause you can't drink wine from U.S. Presidential Candidate, 2012 : a two dollar bill." -> Spin Doctors
From: Matthew Reichman <mreichman@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TIFFany II question: duplicating Photoshop's Motion Blur action Date: 18 Nov 1997 02:19:16 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Message-ID: <64qtv4$af6@argentina.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I would like to replicate the "motion blur" action in Photoshop on TIFFany II. But fiddling with "smear" and "sideblur" has led me to nothing. Any solutions? -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <mreichman@earthlink.net> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
From: gksmith@mail.utexas.edu.nospam (Glenn Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.win95,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows Subject: Re: How to print from a Windows 95 PC on a NeXTstation's (NS 3.0) printer? Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 03:52:45 GMT Organization: University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <64r3gr$g91$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <64i4lq$kbl$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> In article <64i4lq$kbl$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>, hoppet@cs.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Hoppe) wrote: >Hi Netland'ers > >imagine, you have a NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 3.0 with a NeXT >printer. Imagine further, you recently bought a PC or Laptop running >Windows 95. Wouldn't it be nice to use the NeXT as a print server for >the PC? Besides Samba, you can probably use my ACITS LPR Remote Printing for Windows 95 to give your Win 95 box LPR support. http://shadowland.hf.utexas.edu/acitslpr.htm
From: mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DeskJet printing from a NeXTstation.... Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:03:55 -0800 Organization: UC Berkeley Message-ID: <mrb-1811970103550001@dialup72-berkeley.autobahn.org> Looking through the NeXTSTEP FAQ, I found listed a couple pieces of software that would allow one to print to an HP DeskJet from Black Hardware. This is the URL I'm referring to: <http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.179.html> It lists two programs: Dots Color and JetPilot. Does anyone out there have a copy of said software? Is there any way for me to obtain a copy? This would be very useful. Thanks. Brendan Bolles
From: Mark <doktor@cyberdude.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP! Need Boot Disk/SCSI tools for Nextstation 040 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:09:45 -0800 Organization: Oasis Group Message-ID: <3467CC79.1DC895C9@cyberdude.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please help me save a 040 NextStation from death! An improper power down has caused a Media error. some info: target 1: Media error vfs_mountroot: error=5 panic> (cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root sd (1.0): sense key; 0x3 scsi blovk in error=656; partition on a f.s. sector 168 root on sd0: If anyone can tell me how to fix this error or supply me with a 2.88 boot floppy I can save this machine, Otherwise she gets stripped for parts. Thanx :)
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar Subject: cmsg cancel <64tl9l$mst@chatta.samart.co.th> Control: cancel <64tl9l$mst@chatta.samart.co.th> Date: 19 Nov 1997 03:10:24 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.64tl9l$mst@chatta.samart.co.th> Sender: s.somsak@mailcity.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems receiving faxes with NXFAX. No RING message Date: 19 Nov 1997 12:12:12 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <64ul2s$jmf$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <3470C7C1.3DC7@sirius.com> <64t6ng$ga6$1@amon.siol.net> In-Reply-To: <64t6ng$ga6$1@amon.siol.net> On 11/18/97, Jonas Znidarsic wrote: >In <3470C7C1.3DC7@sirius.com> John van Heteren wrote: >> - Zyxel Omni288s modem, v1.19 firmware >> (I believe the 288s is the successor to the 1496E) > >My experience is that NXFax is VERY picky with modems. I could not >make it work with Omni, however it still works very good with my old >1486E (and I kept this outdated modem for the sole reason of sending >and receiving faxes with NXFax). > >I suppose one could make the Omni work with a little bit of control >codes tweaking, > We use an Elite2864 nowadays, although, the cure seems to be downgrading to version 1.12 of the firmware: we can supply this if it's not accessible on the ftp servers. Best wishes, mmalc. Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm (We also distribute ZyXEL in the UK :-)
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Xnext.app Date: 19 Nov 1997 13:14:51 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <64uoob$q1o@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <64qvkm$k0i$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> stwillis@ews.uiuc.edu (willis sean timothy) wrote: >I was wondering if anyone has had any luck running Xnext.app for >displaying remotely running software on their local NeXT box. Iseem to be >having some problems with this, as I can get the "Xnext screen" to pop up, >but the Status window is showing: > >"Xnext screen server version 2.05 started. > >Setup complete for display 0 > > width: 800 height: 600 > Using spp: 3, bps: 4, bpp: 16; > 60 slice(s); > padded width: 1600; >Timing results: none. > >~/.xinitrc: No such file or directory" First you should set your .xinitrc in preferences (this should not be the main problem) > >I'm attempting to telnet into the remote machine and run the command: > >"setenv DISPLAY arh0568.urh.uiuc.edu:0.0" > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > my machine I had a similiar problem here. It finally worked, after I had proper .rhost files on both machines AND did a "xhost +" on the local machine. good luck Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Installing Xnext Date: 19 Nov 1997 13:17:04 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <64uosg$q1o@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <346B178D.50FD@tfo.arizona.edu> "Carl A. Carlson" <carl@tfo.arizona.edu> wrote: >I have installed Xnext (X11R6) on my Turbo Color slab with ADB, but it >can't be seen by my X application (xteddy.xapp), i.e. xteddy says: >Cannot connect to Xserver. The installation instructions are sketchy. >Could someone confirm (or not) that I have used the proper procedure? > <<<snip>>> Put a "setenv DISPLAY `/bin/hostname`:0.0" in your .cshrc or cshrc.std. ciao Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Xnext.app Date: 19 Nov 1997 13:17:53 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Message-ID: <64uou1$bas$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <64qvkm$k0i$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> stwillis@ews.uiuc.edu (willis sean timothy) wrote: >I was wondering if anyone has had any luck running Xnext.app for >displaying remotely running software on their local NeXT box. Iseem to be >having some problems with this, as I can get the "Xnext screen" to pop up, >but the Status window is showing: I've briefly played with XNext some time last year. I've found that it worked ok, but I was not satisfied with the performance on Intel hardware. (Then again, Java AWT is terribly slow to start with, and me running HotJava over a slow X display didn't exactly make it faster... we'll stop futzing with X and will get AppLE HW with Rhapsody instead :-) ... >~/.xinitrc: No such file or directory" Probably harmless. Not having .xinitrc shouldn't cause a problem. >I'm attempting to telnet into the remote machine and run the command: > >"setenv DISPLAY arh0568.urh.uiuc.edu:0.0" > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > my machine Yip, been there. You'll have to xhost +machine first. I've found that XNext's implementation will only allow that from the local machine. Open a local xterm and "xhost +" in it. Then the remote display should work fine. Best regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DeskJet printing from a NeXTstation.... Date: 19 Nov 1997 13:21:16 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <64up4c$q1o@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <mrb-1811970103550001@dialup72-berkeley.autobahn.org> mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles) wrote: ><<<snip>>> >It lists two programs: Dots Color and JetPilot. > >Does anyone out there have a copy of said software? Is there any way for >me to obtain a copy? This would be very useful. Thanks. > > >Brendan Bolles Dots seems to be dead. JetPilot could be found at http://www.ipc.de/information/index.html (works fine for me with DJ 500C and has some trouble with DJ 870C). There are also some freeware packages on the peanuts archiv (e.g. for HP DJ 500 ...), but I never got them to work right. greets Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: socks and ssh Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:07:04 +0100 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <346FED18.41C6@de.ibm.com> References: <641mqo$131e$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <644rmr$lt@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rainer Frohnhöfer wrote: > > henry@yusei.boeblingen.de.ibm.com (Henry Koplien) wrote: > >Has anybody successfully compiled socks5 from nec and/or gnu's secret > >shell (ssh) under NS3.3pl1 on Intel??? > > There's a precompiled version of the secure shell (ssh) on peanuts. Works > fine for me. YUP. It works. Henry -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany \|/ voice : +49-7031-16-3516 o(O O)o fax : +49-7031-16-3328 \^/ -------------- Ihh-Mehl: Koplien@de.IBM.com --ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Mysterious NextStep Login Window Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:12:14 +0100 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <346FEE4E.167E@de.ibm.com> References: <mrb-1311970635090001@dialup79-berkeley.autobahn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brendan Bolles wrote: ... Ok, on Intel it is a bunch of BS! ... > "power" - Powers down the machine. > don't worked on mine > "reboot" - Restarts the machine. worked > > "exit" - Quits the loginwindow and restarts it. half hearted new login window after 30s > > "console" - Brings up a single shell window, similar to Rom Monitor, where > you can log in as if the NeXT were a dumb terminal. worked with US keyboard and after exiting I must reboot > > "rebootdos" - Not much on my machine (same as "exit" apparently) but > presumably would be different on an Intel machine, perhaps booting from a > DOS partition. > > "rebootnext" - Reboots the machine a la "reboot" both don't worked > > /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/ScreenSaver.bundle/English.lproj/ScreenSaver.nib > This interface is used on Intel boxes. Henry -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany \|/ voice : +49-7031-16-3516 o(O O)o fax : +49-7031-16-3328 \^/ -------------- Ihh-Mehl: Koplien@de.IBM.com --ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
From: Emile de Kleine <e.de.kleine@med.rug.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Preferences.app Date: 19 Nov 1997 16:27:30 GMT Organization: Rijksuniversiteit Groningen Message-ID: <64v41i$464$1@info.service.rug.nl> Hi, I do not want the moving NeXT icon to appear after logging out. As root, you can alter some things with Login Window Preferences. But how do I set a costum screen saver, for example /NextDeveloper/Demos/BackSpace.app? (Actually, I just want a black screen.) Bye, Emile
From: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.lang.objective-c,comp.databases.object Subject: Is this an appropriate group to discuss Apple's (nee NeXT's) WebObjects Software Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:59:26 GMT Organization: Suneidesis Message-ID: <347316f5.7513410@news.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm evaluating WebObjects for some business associates. So far I'm not impressed with either WebObjects builder or EOModeller. (I've managed to create unusable templates using them---not what I'd expect from software that costs the arm, leg, other arm, other leg and whole body that WebObjects is priced at.) I'm using WebObjects on a Win/NT4macine with MS SQL Server 6.5 providing the database. I'm prepared to believe that I'm doing things wrong but as the documentation is minimal (again something else that rankles for such a high-priced product) it is difficult to find out just what it is I am supposed to be doing. However, as I've worked with databases (heirarchical, network, objects, relational and text) for 20 years I'm fairly sure that the problem is with the WebObjects software rather than in my knowledge or understanding of the subject matter. So I'm hoping that one of the groups I've posted this to is the correct place to engage in discussions of this software. If none of the groups are appropriate my apologies but then perhaps somebody could direct me to the correct place. I have tried to limit my question to groups that I think ought to be discussing WebObjects (check the Nswsgroups: line) and even prioritorised the list. If it were up to me I'd "just say No!" to WebObjects but several of my associate's prospective clients have mandated its use. :-( Regards, Trevor. -- "Real Men don't Read Instruction Manuals" Tim Allen, Home Improvement
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems receiving faxes with NXFAX. No RING message Date: 19 Nov 1997 16:48:27 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <64v58r$q1s$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <3470C7C1.3DC7@sirius.com> <64t6ng$ga6$1@amon.siol.net> <64ul2s$jmf$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <64ul2s$jmf$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> On 11/19/97, mmalcolm crawford wrote: >We use an Elite2864 nowadays, although, the cure seems to be downgrading to >version 1.12 of the firmware > Prior to that, I omitted: If any of the modems suffer a hardware reset, or a return to factory settings at any point in the future this setting will have to be made again in order to receive faxes properly. The following instructions will tell you how to make the required change: For Omni and Elite ROM versions 1.09 or later: Use tip to connect and send commands to your modem. To do this - Launch the Terminal app. It is located in /NextApps. - Choose Shell from the Terminal menu. - Choose New from the Shell menu. - type the following command and then press Enter. tip cua9600 (If your modem is plugged into port B type cub9600.) You should see a ›connected— message. Then type: at and press Enter. If the modem responds with ›OK— you have a good connection and you can now type AT commands. Type the following command to set the S62 register: ats62.0=1 To save the changes type: at&w Exit tip by typing ~. (the tilde key followed by a period). If this has no effect, simply close the terminal window and click the Close Anyway button on the Close panel. ( This document can also be found on your NXFax 1.04 distibution disk as ZyXELOmni.rtf ) Best wishes, mmalc.
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DeskJet printing from a NeXTstation.... Date: 20 Nov 1997 00:11:29 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Message-ID: <64vv7h$lak$2@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <mrb-1811970103550001@dialup72-berkeley.autobahn.org> <64up4c$q1o@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de In <64up4c$q1o@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Sven Droll wrote: > mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles) wrote: > ><<<snip>>> > >It lists two programs: Dots Color and JetPilot. > > Dots seems to be dead. JetPilot could be found at > http://www.ipc.de/information/index.html (works fine for me with DJ 500C and > has some trouble with DJ 870C). There are also some freeware packages on the > peanuts archiv (e.g. for HP DJ 500 ...), but I never got them to work right. I have been using "djf_for_3.0" since the days of NS3.0, and currently have it running on two NS3.3 machines. (black NeXT hardware, of course). Don't remember any particular difficulty in making it go. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: olaf@orest.escape.de Subject: Re: Problems receiving faxes with NXFAX. No RING message Message-ID: <EJvrus.29A@orest.escape.de> Sender: olaf@orest.escape.de (Olaf Mueller) Organization: Objective Methods, Inc. References: <3470C7C1.3DC7@sirius.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:40:04 GMT In article <3470C7C1.3DC7@sirius.com> John van Heteren <vanhet@sirius.com> writes: > Hi, > I am having problems using NXFAX with a Zyxel modem. Although > I purchased a license shortly before it became shareware, I did > not install it until my modem arrived a few weeks ago. I'm hoping > that someone out there can give me some help. > > Configuration: > - Intel PC, NeXTStep v3.3 > - NXFAX v1.04 > - Zyxel Omni288s modem, v1.19 firmware > (I believe the 288s is the successor to the 1496E) > > > - It seems that regardless of how I set parameters in the > configuration, NXFAX sets the modem to answer at the 4th > ring, but times-out at about the 2nd ring. > - my dwrites appear to be ignored. > You may try to modify root's default modem RingTimeout nn You may also try another product - OlafAM -, which supports the voice capabilities of ZyXEL modems too. Olaf
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rhapsody Submissions on PEAK (was Re: SUBMISSIONS: TheShelf, MiscKit, IconKit, MesaGL and Osprey) Date: 19 Nov 1997 22:47:02 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <64vq96$t7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <64vgd0$bqv$1@news.digifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de In <64vgd0$bqv$1@news.digifix.com> Thomas Engel wrote: > All submissions are binary distributions only since the source code > packages are 100% identical to the Openstep releases which already > are on the archives. The final location of the files on the peak > ftp server is not known yet but all files have been placed in > pub/rhapsody/submissions 1) please email <next-ftp@peak.org> when you upload something (preferably before the announcement is sent out) and I will more than likely respond while you are still logged in. 2) all new submissions are linked to ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/XXXX/new_arrivals/ where XXXX stands for 'next' or 'openstep' or 'rhapsody'. The NeXT links expire in 30 days. The other links do not currently expire (since there is not much in either part of the site yet 3) Rhapsody/OpenStep submissions are in similar directories to their NeXTStep version counterparts. Oftentimes they are identical to the NeXT URLs but just require the OS name to be changed. Mesa went to /pub/rhapsody/demos/spreadsheets/ MiscKit, IconKit went to /sourcelibrary TheShelf went to /apps/utils/workspace/ > P.S. Btw.. it is a pain that peak no longer allows looking into the > submissions folders. It is virtually impossible to check if the files have > been transfered correctly until someone downloads the corrupted files and > complains about them :-( It is hard to fix a problem when no one tells me about it.... The directory had the 'read' bit turned off... I could not tell you why, but it was fixed 12 seconds after I learned about it. I also usually verify the .tar.gz before moving it from the submissions folder. 98% of the time I remember to do this, so if a file is not in submissions, it is ``guaranteed'' to be OK (today was an exception... still distracted by my computer gremlins at home). If you have PEAK questions or comments, feel free to reach me at <luomat+peak@luomat.peak.org> Now that the directory is readable, I hope folks will *read* the README file in the submissions folder, which tells you how to name Rhapsody submissions. I haven't always renamed mis-named Rhapsody submissions, but I will start to get more diligent about that now that I know everyone can read the file ;-) TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: me@amir.erols.com (Scott Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Virtuoso App Lost Date: 20 Nov 1997 04:45:49 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <650f9t$q3u$1@winter.news.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had virtuoso running from a previous licence. My harddrive boot record got lost during a power failure. I have tried to install the license on a the virtuoso.app located on the workflow solution suite CD-rom disc from the late great GSCORP, to no avail. Any help will be appreciated. Does anyone have the first solution suite CD. scott turner firstsightinc. http://www.1stsight.com vision@1stsight.com
From: colombet@arles.timone.univ-mrs.fr (Bruno Colombet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IRC client for NS 3.3? Date: 20 Nov 1997 12:23:39 GMT Organization: Universites d' Aix en Provence Message-ID: <651a4b$g9q$1@news.univ-aix.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm searching for an IRC client running well under 3.3 Senc me links or ftp sites please. Thanks Bruno
From: lacsap@spammedia.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody Submissions on PEAK (was Re: SUBMISSIONS: TheShelf, MiscKit, IconKit, MesaGL and Osprey) Date: 20 Nov 1997 14:58:15 GMT Organization: MIT Media Lab Distribution: world Message-ID: <651j67$hrg$1@hpns1.media.mit.edu> References: <64vq96$t7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> I would like to recommend that people posting binaries remember to build their packages FAT (meaning both for PPC and Intel). The default install of the developer packages does not install the multiple architecture support. You have to reinstall the developer packages from the CD distribution using installer.sh by hand. this little obscure tidbit is in the release notes... Hopefully we will see more .b.PI on the ftp sites pasc
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Xnext.app Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:41:20 +0100 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <3472FA90.446B@de.ibm.com> References: <64qvkm$k0i$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <64uoob$q1o@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sven Droll wrote: > ... > I had a similiar problem here. It finally worked, after I had proper .rhost > files on both machines AND did a "xhost +" on the local machine. And if you use ssh you will have a secure transmission and don't need fuzzy'ing around with this x-stuff. Henry -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany \|/ voice : +49-7031-16-3516 o(O O)o fax : +49-7031-16-3328 \^/ -------------- Ihh-Mehl: Koplien@de.IBM.com --ooOo---(_)---oOoo--- a ethernet. I can't beleave that a 263MHz Pentium is slow. Henry -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany \|/ voice : +49-7031-16-3516 o(O O)o fax : +49-7031-16-3328 \^/ -------------- Ihh-Mehl: Koplien@de.IBM.com --ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
From: bhi1@ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need Help with NX fax "Open Failed no such device" Date: 20 Nov 1997 22:36:22 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <652e16$fu4@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> Hello NeXT/ Apple Gurus: I've successfully installed Openstep 4.2 on a 486 66, however when I install NX Fax , I'm getting an error message "Open Failed no such device" at the very end of the booting scripts right after reboot successful and local_fax then the "Open Failed no such device" pops up three times then it goes to a login in panel then after logging in the message repeats in the console panel infinitely "Open Failed no such device" "Open Failed no such device" "Open Failed no such device" "Open Failed no such device", NX Fax reports "looking for driver", I have poured through the help files and followed the instructions to no avail... any clues would be appreciated. Does this mean the serial ports are not configured correctly in configure.app and just in case they were DOA by chance, I replaced it with a new combo card today ... parallel, game, serial and floppy controller, everything else works. I've tried 2 different Zyxel 1496E modems and 2 different cables . We are using NX Fax 1.04 the last version and a Zyxel 14.4 E 1496... I'm at wits end, I also can not tip to the modem using cua9600 or cub9600 because it says link down so I suspect it is a serial port problem. The Serial Ports appear to be configured in Configure.app under other correclty with no conflicts, they are clearly listed and currently set to IRQ 3 with no conflicts , we also tried IRQ 4 same results, any help or advice would be sincerely appreciated. Is this a problem with 4.2 ? please email: bhi1@ix.netcom.com Best Regards Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 303-741-9998 New Phone -- Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 or new address and phone numbers starting November 1, 1997 Black Hole, Incorporated 8501 E Grand Ave. Denver, CO 80237 303-741-9998 303-741-9997 Fax http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need Help with NX fax "Open Failed no such device" Date: 21 Nov 1997 06:10:04 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6538js$c58$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <652e16$fu4@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bhi1@ix.netcom.com Have you installed TTY Port server? There should be 2 instances installed in the last module in Configure.app I don't know if that is the problem or not TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: isor@ripco.com (chiroptera) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tk or Tkirc on NS 3.2 or 4.0 ? Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:59:33 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <3475311d.4538499@news.enteract.com> where can i find Tk compiled for NS ? what about the source? has anyone tried tkirc? -eric
From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple Supports Only OpenStep Date: 20 Nov 1997 23:50:42 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <652ici$tl6$1@news2.apple.com> References: <347459cc.1248332@news.gatech.edu> In article <347459cc.1248332@news.gatech.edu> bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu (Brian K. Meadows) writes: > I just got a letter from Apples Enterprise Technical Support that > spells which Next software products will still receive technical > support after 2/28/98. Everything else is no longer supported > effective immediately or is dropped by Apple no latter than the end of > 28FEB98. > > Here is the list of supported software: > > Enterprise Objects Framework 1.2, 2.0, 2.1 > > OpenStep Enterprise 4.1, 4.2 > > OpenStep Release 4.2 Developer & User > > PDO Release 4.0 > > WebObjects 3.0, 3.1 Developer & Deployment > > > Guess this is a case of "march or die." > > > Brian Let me clarify this a little, because it's more complicated than Brian listed. Here's the actual information from the letter that was sent to customers: Effective immediately, Apple will no longer support the following products; PDO Release 1.0 PDO Release 2.0 WebObjects Release 1.0 Effective 2/28/98, Apple will no longer support the following products; NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Developer & User OPENSTEP Release 4.0 Developer & User Enterprise Objects Framework Release 1.0 Enterprise Objects Framework Release 1.1 WebObjects Enterprise Release 2.0 PDO Release 3.0 NextTime DBKit Effective 12/31/98, Apple will no longer support the following product; OPENSTEP Release 4.1 Developer & User Apple will continue to provide free configuration and installation support, and fee-based support, for the following products, until you are otherwise notified; Enterprise Objects Framework 1.2 Enterprise Objects Framework 2.0 Enterprise Objects Framework 2.1 OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.1 OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2 OPENSTEP Release 4.2 Developer & User PDO Release 4.0 WebObjects 3.0 Developer & Deployment WebObjects3.1 Developer & Deployment Joe Keenan Manager, Enterprise Technical Support Apple Computer, Inc.
From: drifterusa@sprintmail.com (John Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple Supports Only OpenStep Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 03:43:56 -0500 Organization: KAOS Message-ID: <199711210343561452593@sdn-ts-001txhousp12.dialsprint.net> References: <347459cc.1248332@news.gatech.edu> <652ici$tl6$1@news2.apple.com> Joe Keenan wrote about Apple's support plans for NeXT software, including: > OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2 > OPENSTEP Release 4.2 Developer & User What's the difference between these two? Is Enterprise the server version? -- John Bauer <remove NOT from email address above, just like the spammers do>
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need Help with NX fax "Open Failed no such device" Date: 21 Nov 1997 09:52:25 GMT Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany Message-ID: <653lkp$hsi2@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <652e16$fu4@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> <6538js$c58$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma (nospam@all.please) wrote: : : Have you installed TTY Port server? There should be 2 instances : installed in the last module in Configure.app Actually one TTYPortserver-driver is enough! So there should be installed as many Serial-Port drivers as there are serial ports that could/should be use with OPENSTEP and one TTYPortserver- driver. : : I don't know if that is the problem or not. Most likely. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apple Supports Only OpenStep Date: 21 Nov 1997 10:33:41 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <653o25$3he$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <199711210343561452593@sdn-ts-001txhousp12.dialsprint.net> In article <199711210343561452593@sdn-ts-001txhousp12.dialsprint.net> drifterusa@sprintmail.com (John Bauer) writes: > Joe Keenan wrote about Apple's support plans for NeXT software, > including: > > > OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2 > > OPENSTEP Release 4.2 Developer & User > > What's the difference between these two? Is Enterprise the server > version? OPENSTEP Enterprise is the Windows version. It is the renamed "OPENSTEP for Windows" running on top of Windows NT (and 4.2 works on '95 too). "OPENSTEP Release 4.2 Developer & User" is OPENSTEP/Mach wich comes with its own Mach operating system. OPENSTEP never had a distinction between "server" and other versions. They all can be used as either server or client. Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Universitaet Koblenz, FB Informatik | Fon:+49 261 9119-421 Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany | Fax:+49 261 9119-497 NeXT/MIME/Email: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de Drop the "Drop_This." part in my Email-address to reply.
From: king phil <kingphil@iruletheworld!.disorg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Computer Problems??? Arizona Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 04:39:23 -0600 Organization: King Phil Cleans Out Fungus, Grease and Slime, Ltd. Message-ID: <653ogd$r5q$2@news.megsinet.net> References: <34747E4A.928B0D1A@netzone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a friendly note, Jeffy. Sending binary attachments to non-binary news groups is generally frowned upon. Have a nice day. Jeff Piurek wrote: Sincerely Jeff Piurek > > Email: jeff777@netzone.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Name: vcard.vcf > Part 1.2 Type: text/x-vcard > Encoding: 7bit > Description: Card for Jeff Piurek
From: d89cb@efd.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple Supports Only OpenStep Date: 21 Nov 1997 12:57:05 GMT Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden Message-ID: <6540f1$qe9$1@news.lth.se> References: <347459cc.1248332@news.gatech.edu> <652ici$tl6$1@news2.apple.com> <199711210343561452593@sdn-ts-001txhousp12.dialsprint.net> NNTP-Posting-User: d89cb In article <199711210343561452593@sdn-ts-001txhousp12.dialsprint.net>, John Bauer <drifterusa@sprintmail.com> wrote: >Joe Keenan wrote about Apple's support plans for NeXT software, >including: > >> OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2 >> OPENSTEP Release 4.2 Developer & User > >What's the difference between these two? Is Enterprise the server >version? 'OPENSTEP Release 4.2' is 'OPENSTEP on Mach/BSD', ie, what used to be called 'NEXTSTEP' (and 'NeXTSTEP' and 'NeXTstep'), and which is becoming 'Rhapsody'. 'OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2' is OpenStep + development tools on Windows NT and Windows 95, which is becoming 'Yellow Box for Windows NT/95', in loose terms. I hope this clears thing up :) > >-- >John Bauer ><remove NOT from email address above, just like the spammers do> // Christian Brunschen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Apple Supports Only OpenStep Message-ID: <EK016z.ML5@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <347459cc.1248332@news.gatech.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:52:09 GMT In article <347459cc.1248332@news.gatech.edu> bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu (Brian K. Meadows) writes: > I just got a letter from Apples Enterprise Technical Support that > spells which Next software products will still receive technical > support after 2/28/98. Everything else is no longer supported > effective immediately or is dropped by Apple no latter than the end of > 28FEB98. > > Here is the list of supported software: > > Enterprise Objects Framework 1.2, 2.0, 2.1 > > OpenStep Enterprise 4.1, 4.2 > > OpenStep Release 4.2 Developer & User > > PDO Release 4.0 > > WebObjects 3.0, 3.1 Developer & Deployment > > > Guess this is a case of "march or die." > Excuse me, but does this really matter? The level of support you could get from NeXT was close to zero anyway (as long as you weren't in the "mission critical" crowd). And if you fear that APIs might break without warning, they used to brake anyway, warning or not! -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: John van Heteren <vanhet@sirius.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems receiving faxes with NXFAX. No RING message Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:40:01 -0800 Organization: CellNet Data Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <3470C7C1.3DC7@sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am having problems using NXFAX with a Zyxel modem. Although I purchased a license shortly before it became shareware, I did not install it until my modem arrived a few weeks ago. I'm hoping that someone out there can give me some help. Configuration: - Intel PC, NeXTStep v3.3 - NXFAX v1.04 - Zyxel Omni288s modem, v1.19 firmware (I believe the 288s is the successor to the 1496E) Symptoms when running as ROOT: - I am able to send a fax message with no problem. - When receiving, my console log gives the message: > Activity on modem > waiting for connect > timeout on connect - When I look at the NXFAX help files and the NXFAX addendum help, I see the timeout problem described as... > Activity on modem > waiting for connect > ring1 > timeout on connect As you can see above, the help files imply that NXFAX receives the 'RING' response from the modem. I have no idea why. - I have read the help files and followed their suggestions: - I have increased the Connect timeout to 90 secs. - I have ensured that AutoAnswer feature is enabled (AA LED on). - It seems that regardless of how I set parameters in the configuration, NXFAX sets the modem to answer at the 4th ring, but times-out at about the 2nd ring. - my dwrites appear to be ignored. Any suggestions from anyone? Thanks, John van Heteren vanhet@sirius.com
From: mrk@i@sakurak@i.com (Kai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: CD Rom FS Type Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:39:42 -0500 Organization: @Home Network Message-ID: <mrk-2211970139420001@cc643893-a.catv1.md.home.com> References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971117005044.1027A-100000@goodguy> In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.971117005044.1027A-100000@goodguy>, Jay Jacobson <nin@goodnet.com> wrote: > I have a quick question...I am faced with having to reinstall the OS on my > Black Slab. The only problem is that I do not have an external SCSI CD > Rom drive to attach to my NeXT Station. I already have my Linux box > mounted on the NeXT machine, and I have two CD drives on the PC. I would > like to be able to mount the NeXTStep CD on my Linux box and then just > reinstall NeXTStep via NFS. However, I have tried every file system type > that 'mount' (in Linux) supports and none of them work for my NeXTStep CD. > Anyone know what file system type the CD is? The CD is in a goldish/brown > colored cardboard-type case with green letters on the front that say > "NeXTSTEP RELEASE 3" The CD itself is black/green two-tone and says > "NeXTSTEP Release 3.0" Any ideas? > If you can get a SCSI drive, hook it up to the slab. NeXT file system seems to be unreadble on any other platform. I *know* that's not what you wanna hear, but I'm sure you'll hear it a lot. Good luck, man. -K > Please CC any replies to "jay@good.net" > Thanks! > > ~Jay > > > - J a y J a c o b s o n > - ----------------------- > - Network Engineer, ISP -- 602.303.9500 -- 888.Good.Net > - jay@good.net -- www.goodnet.com/~nin
From: mrk@i@sakurak@i.com (Kai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Compilation request Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:36:26 -0500 Organization: @Home Network Message-ID: <mrk-2211970136260001@cc643893-a.catv1.md.home.com> Hiya! I'm back from the dead, with a bit more gear :) Ok, could someone please compile te following termy programs/utils for all known (I guess now that means Rhapsody (I)ntel and (P)owerPC, eh?) platforms? ftp.haxor.com/pub/hx It's the HotlineX suite of Hotline-compatible Un*x software (client, server, tracker, etc). I tried to get someone else to do this for me, but apparently that got hung up because they needed the termcap lib and didn't have it. I thought that was kinda odd, but he said he was using You-Know-What (it begins with an 'R') so, I'm asking the pros now :) Thanks, -Kai change the extra @'s to lowercase a's to reply =)
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Virtual Pages app Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:37:21 -0800 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971114093303.10689A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Reply-To: " Is there an app for NS 3.3 for Intel that will allow me to have multiple virtual workspaces? For example, I would like to click on a mini-grid and select a different Workspace to work in, and later click back on the grid and get back to my original workspace. Thanks. Rob rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
From: Pascal Chesnais <pascal@nospame.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody Submissions on PEAK (was Re: SUBMISSIONS: TheShelf, MiscKit, IconKit, MesaGL and Osprey) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:57:24 -0500 Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Message-ID: <3475CB84.289F336@nospame.mit.edu> References: <64vgd0$bqv$1@news.digifix.com> <64vq96$t7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <651j67$hrg$1@hpns1.media.mit.edu> <1d0119o.7gg8q21kggv5sN@dialup80-3-53.swipnet.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit on pc compatible distribution /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/ReleaseNotes/InstallTools.html in general that is where all release notes are on CDroms and definitely worth look at carefully! pasc Lars Farm wrote: > Pascal Chesnais <lacsap@spammedia.mit.edu> wrote: > > > this little obscure tidbit is in the release notes... > > Could you please be a bit more specific about where in the release > notes. I can't remember seeing anything about installer.sh. > > > Hopefully we will see more .b.PI on the ftp > > sites > > .b.PI ?? Same place I suppose? > > -- > Lars Farm; lars.farm@ite.mh.se - Limt/Channelmatic: lars.farm@limt.se
From: moetteli@citeu.unige.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: *.xls --> *.quantrix ??? Date: 18 Nov 1997 14:32:18 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Distribution: world Message-ID: <64s8ti$e54@uni2f.unige.ch> Hi Can anybody tell me, how I can convert Excel 5.0 spreadsheets (expecially multi-documented) to quantrix? Thanks for any response! Phil
From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: anim2mov in OS 4.2: How? Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:36:53 GMT Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <347730ca.3914169@news.wco.com> References: <654mth$1qqe@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> On 21 Nov 1997 19:20:17 GMT, alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) wrote: >Has anyone gotten the anim2mov shipped with OS 4.2 (as part of NEXTIME?) >to work? There's no documentation I can discover, other than the cryptic >usage message I get when I mess up one parameter or another. I think I >don't quite grasp the "input_file_pattern" parameter. My files are named >according to the following scheme: > >myanim.1.tiff >myanim.2.tiff You'll need to use several flags (none of which I recall exactly) to set: starting frame of 1 input file pattern 'myanim.%d.tiff' Total of 11 frames >myanim.11.tiff > >Do I need to have them named with a constant number of digits in their >respective numbers? Nope. The 'input file pattern' is used to do a sprintf() with the current frame number to build the filename: sprintf( fileName, pattern, frameNumber ); That error message should have as it's first line something along the lines of "Couldn't open file mynanim.0.tiff". This may provide you with a clue as to what's going astray. If this doesn't help, send me some mail at mpaque AT apple.com, including the text of the error you are getting, and I'll see what I can do. Mike Paquette mpaque AT wco.com (Damn junk-mailers!)
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <19598879656442@digifix.com> Date: 23 Nov 1997 05:00:08 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <8981880261224@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: jonas@desetka.si (Jonas Znidarsic) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems receiving faxes with NXFAX. No RING message Date: 18 Nov 1997 23:01:04 GMT Organization: Telekom Slovenije - SiOL - http://www.siol.net/ Message-ID: <64t6ng$ga6$1@amon.siol.net> References: <3470C7C1.3DC7@sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: vanhet@sirius.com In <3470C7C1.3DC7@sirius.com> John van Heteren wrote: > - Zyxel Omni288s modem, v1.19 firmware > (I believe the 288s is the successor to the 1496E) My experience is that NXFax is VERY picky with modems. I could not make it work with Omni, however it still works very good with my old 1486E (and I kept this outdated modem for the sole reason of sending and receiving faxes with NXFax). I suppose one could make the Omni work with a little bit of control codes tweaking, but I decided it was not worth the hussle. I suggest you try to find an old 1486 somewhere and see if it works. If it does, you should probably find the glitch with Omni easier. -- *** Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk? *** Jonas Znidarsic http://www.jonas.eunet.si mailto:jonas@desetka.si
From: Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DeskJet printing from a NeXTstation.... Date: 18 Nov 1997 23:02:33 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Message-ID: <64t6q9$3kp$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> References: <mrb-1811970103550001@dialup72-berkeley.autobahn.org> In DeskJet printing from a NeXTstation.... comp.sys.next.software mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles) writes, > > Looking through the NeXTSTEP FAQ, I found listed a couple pieces of > software that would allow one to print to an HP DeskJet from Black > Hardware. > I use GSprintFilter wich is free an come with GhostScript distribution compiled for NS. Very nice package. ************** Mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr : Adresse primaire / primary adress Mailto: Max.Barel@wanadoo.fr : Adresse secondaire / secondary adress (NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome)
From: Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenWrite "Merge Codes" syntax. Date: 18 Nov 1997 23:04:25 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Message-ID: <64t6tp$3kp$2@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> Ð I have a legacy version (read free, no doc, no support) of Lighthouse's OpenWrite. Ð I want to use merging feature. The "Insert Merge Codes" command don't work, with this diagnostic : ******* An internal error has occurred. (An Objective-C object of class XAA_Doc did not understand the message insertMergeCodeFor_L:in:). ******* == I just want to know the syntax of merge codes to insert them manualy. Who knows ?
From: doyle@aps.org (Mark Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.lang.objective-c,comp.databases.object Subject: Re: Is this an appropriate group to discuss Apple's (nee NeXT's) WebObjects Software Date: 19 Nov 1997 18:26:56 GMT Organization: American Physical Society Message-ID: <64vb1g$g1t$1@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> References: <347316f5.7513410@news.demon.co.uk> tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins) wrote: >So I'm hoping that one of the groups I've posted this to is the correct >place to engage in discussions of this software. If none of the groups are >appropriate my apologies but then perhaps somebody could direct me to the >correct place. I have tried to limit my question to groups that I think >ought to be discussing WebObjects (check the Nswsgroups: line) and even >prioritorised the list. I believe the best place to ask your questions is comp.sys.next.programmer. Best signal-to-noise ratio and people with the right expertise to help you through WebObjects (which I think you are dismissing too quickly -- but I am no expert). Post your specific problems and questions there (and probably not to any of these newsgroups). Cheers, Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger) Subject: Re: Preferences.app Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <EJwuoA.A4n@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> Sender: news@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: e.de.kleine@med.rug.nl Organization: none References: <64v41i$464$1@info.service.rug.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:38:34 GMT In <64v41i$464$1@info.service.rug.nl> Emile de Kleine wrote: > Hi, > > I do not want the moving NeXT icon to appear after logging out. > > As root, you can alter some things with Login Window Preferences. But how do > I set a costum screen saver, for example /NextDeveloper/Demos/BackSpace.app? > (Actually, I just want a black screen.) As root type e.g. dwrite loginwindow ScreenSaverBundle /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/SpaceSaver.loginbundle Hope this helps. Olaf -- Olaf Foellinger homepage: http://www1.stuttgart.netsurf.de/~ergo/ NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
From: isor@ripco.com (chiroptera) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tk binaries? Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:47:47 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <34786c1a.3203038@news.enteract.com> anyone have Tk binaries? please CC to isor@ripco.com
From: dhassell@diamond.tufts.edu (David Hassell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Advice Please!! Date: 23 Nov 1997 18:56:37 GMT Organization: Tufts University Message-ID: <659u95$ub4$1@news3.tufts.edu> Hi, I recently aquired a NeXTStaion turbo color machine running NS 3.0 user/dev. I'm looking to use the machine for basic internet use...web browsing and authoring, and perhaps as a web server (I also use X occaisionally that I've been told can be made to work with Xnext). After a quick search for apps that I can use, I found that some of the newer versions of OmniWeb require NS 3.3, and the newest (3.0 and higher?) might require OpenStep 4.2. I'm now looking to upgrade to either NS 3.3 or OS 4.2, and would like some advice. I've been told that NS 3.3 would be faster and more compatible with my black hardware, but that there I might be limited with the software (i.e. OmniWeb 3.0) that I can get for NS 3.3. Can anyone suggest why I should go either way? I have a decent offer for an upgrade to NS 3.3 user (no dev) and as it looks now, upgrading to 4.2 may cost more than 3x as much even with the academic bundle. Thanks for any help! - Dave -- David Hassell dhassell@emerald.tufts.edu Tufts Varsity Crew @diamond.tufts.edu Residential Computer Consultant, @eecs.tufts.edu Area Supervisor http://www.tufts.edu/~dhassell/crew.html
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: keyboard checkbox checking? Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:29:11 -0500 Organization: Center for Educational Technology Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg174721.thr-4339c7.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg174721.thr-4339c7.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> Under OS4.2 (and probably earlier versions as well), one can use the tab key to navigate the interface of any openstep app. Popup menus can be navigated with the arrow keys, buttons clicked by selecting and then pressing return, etc. How does one check or uncheck a checkbox type button? -- David D. Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology voice: (802)443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 fax: (802)443-2053
From: jmeacham@fellspt.charm.net (James Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 Editor with coloring, etc.? Date: 23 Nov 1997 15:09:34 -0500 Organization: Charm Net, Inc. Message-ID: <jmeacham.880315647@news.vni.net> Does anyone know of a test editor for NS 3.3 with keyword coloring, parenthesis matching, and the like? I like Edit, but it doesn't have much by way of extra features like that, far as I can tell. Any info is appreciated. Peace, James -- -- jmeacham@charm.net James Meacham
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Advice Please!! Date: 23 Nov 1997 20:39:24 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <65a49s$eal$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <659u95$ub4$1@news3.tufts.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dhassell@diamond.tufts.edu In <659u95$ub4$1@news3.tufts.edu> David Hassell wrote: > After a quick search for apps that I can use, I found that some of > the newer versions of OmniWeb require NS 3.3, and the newest (3.0 and > higher?) might require OpenStep 4.2. Other than a much nicer Mail.app, there is not much reason to want 3.3 over 3.2 (with the free FoundationUserPatch). Just the *user* part of 3.3 shouldn't be too hard to find.... the 3.3 *dev* does seem to be a little harder to come by. Unless you are compiling, there isn't much of a difference between 3.[23] and 4.x. Since you want to use OmniWeb, you might want to get 4.2... However, realize that OW3 is in early beta stage, meaning bugs and crashes... I currently have OW3 and OW2.5 on my dock.... I use OW3 when I want to see new features, etc and I use 2.5 when I want fast and stable. You can use 2.5 under OpenStep too. If you want to compile NeXT apps and most Unix programs, you'll want 3.3 dev over 4.x, since most programs have no idea what to do with 4.x and therefore choke and barf. XNeXT is generally considered very slow. CubX is commercial and supposed to be faster. Having briefly used X recently, I can't imagine why anyone anywhere who had a NeXT would want to use the ugly debauchery that is X. Mouse-focus sucks.... I digress... If you have a turbo, chock it full of ram (I think you can go to 128) and its performance will probably be OK.... OmniWeb on black hardware is somewhat limited to the processor speed, so at a certain point you are stuck with that no matter what you get. Hope that has been helpful. Drop me a line if you'd like more info. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Markee <markee@april.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Computer Problems??? Arizona Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 23:14:28 +0000 Organization: april Distribution: world Message-ID: <iofLaCAUd2d0EwGf@april.demon.co.uk> References: <34747E4A.928B0D1A@netzone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <34747E4A.928B0D1A@netzone.com>, Jeff Piurek <jeff777@netzone.com> writes > Are you having trouble understanding why your computer >seems to be so difficult at times? Do you spend hours night after night > >trying to solve the problem to no avail? Usually these problems can be >solved quite easy and inexpensively. > We have spent many hours working with the same problems > >that you are currently facing. Don't you think that its time to spend Perhaps we could email him with some obscure Acorn problem to solve...Forgot, Acorn's don't have obscure intermittent, problems (but I suppose we can emulate Win95) -- Markee
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Apple Supports Only OpenStep Message-ID: <EK3u6A.5xF@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <34763bca.7591414@news.gatech.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:10:55 GMT In article <34763bca.7591414@news.gatech.edu> bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu (Brian K. Meadows) writes: > On Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:52:09 GMT, Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter > Nitezki) wrote: > > >"Excuse me, but does this really matter? > > > >The level of support you could get from NeXT was close to zero > >anyway (as long as you weren't in the "mission critical" crowd). > > > >And if you fear that APIs might break without warning, they used > >to break anyway, warning or not!" > > Typically when a vendor classifies software as obsolete the > company removes all drivers, patches, and reference material > from the web site. So my guess would be that if it isn't on > Peanuts now it will be gone for good, so even if you are Next > savvy without this material you're out of luck. > Ok, I got it. But, understand, I'm an unconvincible black hardware user who is used to the fact that if it ain't on Peanuts - or Peak (no preferences implied) - it's probably nowhere... For Intel users this is still a way to go, as I understand now ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Tk or Tkirc on NS 3.2 or 4.0 ? Message-ID: <EK3uBu.5y3@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3475311d.4538499@news.enteract.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:14:17 GMT In article <3475311d.4538499@news.enteract.com> isor@ripco.com (chiroptera) writes: > where can i find Tk compiled for NS ? what about the source? has > anyone tried tkirc? > I haven' heard of any native Tk port. But there is the NEXTSTEPish way to this by the name of TickleServices. And, of course it's on Peak and Peanuts. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Editor with coloring, etc.? Date: 24 Nov 1997 18:34:38 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <65chbu$cgm$6@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <jmeacham.880315647@news.vni.net> jmeacham@fellspt.charm.net (James Meacham) wrote: > > Does anyone know of a test editor for NS 3.3 with keyword coloring, > parenthesis matching, and the like? Carl Edmon's Emacs.app, which is a NEXTSTEP-specific variant of emacs which understands the NEXTSTEP windowing system and doesn't just run in a Terminal.app window. You'll want to use cc-mode.el and hilit.el, not just BOCM ("boring old C-mode"). -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: lars.farm@ite.mh.se (Lars Farm) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody Submissions on PEAK (was Re: SUBMISSIONS: TheShelf, MiscKit, IconKit, MesaGL and Osprey) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 18:13:10 +0100 Organization: pv Message-ID: <1d0119o.7gg8q21kggv5sN@dialup80-3-53.swipnet.se> References: <64vgd0$bqv$1@news.digifix.com> <64vq96$t7v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <651j67$hrg$1@hpns1.media.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: s-49817 Pascal Chesnais <lacsap@spammedia.mit.edu> wrote: > this little obscure tidbit is in the release notes... Could you please be a bit more specific about where in the release notes. I can't remember seeing anything about installer.sh. > Hopefully we will see more .b.PI on the ftp > sites .b.PI ?? Same place I suppose? -- Lars Farm; lars.farm@ite.mh.se - Limt/Channelmatic: lars.farm@limt.se
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Editor with coloring, etc.? Date: 24 Nov 1997 01:30:48 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <65alc8$eal$10@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <jmeacham.880315647@news.vni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jmeacham@charm.net In <jmeacham.880315647@news.vni.net> James Meacham wrote: > Does anyone know of a test editor for NS 3.3 with keyword coloring, > parenthesis matching, and the like? I like Edit, but it doesn't have much > by way of extra features like that, far as I can tell. Any info is > appreciated. Peace, Nothing about coloring, but it will do a lot more (incl paren matching) if you start it up in Developer mode versus User mode in Preferences. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: nextcube@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: mailing out with mail.app host unknown error (nobody answered the question before) Date: 25 Nov 1997 02:00:24 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <65dbfo$6aj@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi ya'll a week or so ago sombody asked for help getting a new install to mail out of the system, after getting the PPP connection working. I have the same problem but nobody answered the question so I am asking again. I get the same thing that person was getting and it's probably because sendmail isn't set up right. I have looked everywhere and can find no help on getting sendmail working with a new install of OPENSTEP. I have tried to get qmail working recently, but I am getting a compile error. It would be nice to get sendmail working until I could get qmail working, if anyone can give any pointers or direction it would be cool. I can receive mail but not send it, I get this error: 550 mailhost (ether)... 550 Host unknown thanks in advance Gary
From: Steve Dekorte <dekorte@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.lang.objective-c,comp.databases.object Subject: Re: Is this an appropriate group to discuss Apple's (nee NeXT's) WebObjects Software Date: 20 Nov 1997 06:56:26 GMT Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <650muq$6ec$2@owl.slip.net> References: <347316f5.7513410@news.demon.co.uk> In comp.lang.objective-c Trevor Jenkins <tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk> wrote: > So far I'm not impressed with either WebObjects builder or EOModeller. Well, all I can say is that it's worked great for us. Just the fact that we can use the same business objects for our web interface(on Solaris) as we use on our email interface(on Mach) and our backend GUI apps(on NT) has saved us an enormous amount of time and energy. We also managed to do some pretty complicated interactive Web/DB pages (see www.inquisit.com) in just 3 months (from start to live production release). > So I'm hoping that one of the groups I've posted this to is the correct > place to engage in discussions of this software. If none of the groups are Check out the WebObjects mailing list at www.omnigroup.com. -- Steve Dekorte - OpenStep consultant - San Francisco
From: t7203@pi.se (Maria Grunditz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Japanese in Rhapsody MailViewer? Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:05:54 +0100 Organization: GGA AB Message-ID: <t7203-2411971005540001@du40-4.ppp.algonet.se> Rhapsody is supposed to support Japanese out of the box, if I understand things correctly. I.e. no need for a special J-version unless you feel like you need online help in Japanese, etc. Has anybody tried using the bundled MailViewer with Japanese email? Is everything handled OK? Does it support Japanese in the headers? Dag Klingstedt Stockholm - Sweden
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <34797dbd.0@news3.uswest.net> Control: cancel <34797dbd.0@news3.uswest.net> Date: 24 Nov 1997 13:17:25 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.34797dbd.0@news3.uswest.net> Sender: kelly@superpsm1.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "John N. Alegre" <jalegre@andante-systems.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ODBC/JDBC Database on NeXT Cube (o.s. 3.3)? Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:56:02 -0600 Organization: Andante Systems Message-ID: <3479F7F2.DDF08181@andante-systems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for an SQL database that I can serve to a TCP/IP network, from NeXT O.S. 3.3, that also has access via ODBC/JDBC. In fact access via ODBC/JDBC is my main concern. We want to serve the DB from a NeXT cube (OS 3.3) and use it to develop client software on both NT and Mac(Rhaposdy). All comments welcome -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################# # NeXTMail preferred. # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################# # URL http://www.andante-systems.com #############################################################
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From: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu (Brian K. Meadows) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple Supports Only OpenStep Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:40:57 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <347459cc.1248332@news.gatech.edu> I just got a letter from Apples Enterprise Technical Support that spells which Next software products will still receive technical support after 2/28/98. Everything else is no longer supported effective immediately or is dropped by Apple no latter than the end of 28FEB98. Here is the list of supported software: Enterprise Objects Framework 1.2, 2.0, 2.1 OpenStep Enterprise 4.1, 4.2 OpenStep Release 4.2 Developer & User PDO Release 4.0 WebObjects 3.0, 3.1 Developer & Deployment Guess this is a case of "march or die." Brian
From: lal9@po.CWRU.Edu (Larry A. Latson, Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: need good dial-in program Date: 20 Nov 1997 17:09:58 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <651qt6$fnp@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> hi all, i've got 4.2 for intel running, and i would like to be able to connect to my campus network. the problem is that i have no idea what kind of connection they supply - it would correspond to a hyperterminal connection under win95. fyi, i also have a usr sportster PnP - my PnP soundblaster words under OS, but will my modem? thanks for any info, LL -- "The story of life is quicker than the wink of an eye. The story of love is hello and goodbye. Until we meet again." -JimiH
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: mailing out with mail.app host unknown error (nobody answered the question before) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 25 Nov 1997 06:12:47 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <65dq8v$76c$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <65dbfo$6aj@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nextcube@ix.netcom.com NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN In <65dbfo$6aj@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> nextcube@ix.netcom.com wrote: > I get the same thing that person was getting and it's probably because > sendmail isn't set up right. This question has been answered repeatedly in the past. A quick search of 'comp.sys.next.sysadmin' on Dejanews for 'ppp + sendmail' listed several hits. > I have looked everywhere and can find no help on getting sendmail working > with a new install of OPENSTEP. Define ``everywhere'' ;-) ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/sendmail.8.8.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/sendmail.8.8.5.INSTALLATIONINSTRUCTIONS.tar.gz Reading the 2nd and then installing the first should take about 30 minutes and a reboot. Since you have OpenStep, there's also a new package from Eric Tremblay in ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/openstep/new_arrivals/ SendMail_Installation_Kit.README SendMail_Installation_Kit.tar.gz which has the sendmail package, m4.pkg (needed to get sendmail configured), and some instructions from Eric, designed to help those who want an even easier method (less features) than the above instructions. Seems like a good time to remind folks that you can search the NeXT part of the PEAK FTP site by sending an email message to ``luomat@peak.org'' with the SUBJECT ``search-peak XXX'' where XXX is not porno but rather a variable for what you are looking for, such as ``search-peak sendmail'' and get the correct URLs for any matches found on the site. For Rhapsody and OpenStep submissions, you can just check the new_arrivals folders on each site, specifically: http://www.peak.org/openstep/new_arrivals/ http://www.peak.org/openstep/rhapsody/new_arrivals/ aka ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/openstep/new_arrivals/ ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/rhapsody/new_arrivals/ TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
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From: Jeff Piurek <jeff777@netzone.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Computer Problems??? Arizona Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:15:38 -0700 Organization: Eagle Supply Message-ID: <34747E4A.928B0D1A@netzone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B2C2E267906B7D094C7B90B6" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B2C2E267906B7D094C7B90B6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you having trouble understanding why your computer seems to be so difficult at times? Do you spend hours night after night trying to solve the problem to no avail? Usually these problems can be solved quite easy and inexpensively. We have spent many hours working with the same problems that you are currently facing. Don't you think that its time to spend your time more productively doing the things you set out to do rather than continuing to wrestle with that computer? Believe me I have been there. And was willing to do anything to make the problem just go away. That is why I started my own business helping other people unlock their computers true potential, rather than constantly trying to fix it.. I have been working on computers since 1990 and have resolved many problems. Mostly in the hardware field. Such as upgrades service and trouble shooting software and hardware conflicts. In a joint effort with my partner Betty who has a vast knowledge in software ranging from Windows, Word, Excel, Access, Quickbooks and more and has solved many problems in the software realm through classes in a corporate setting , as well as a personal one on one basis. I believe that we may be able to help take the edge off your computers problems. So if your have a small business or just indulge in personal computing. Please give us a try when you wake to your next computer nightmare. Our prices are very competitive and non gouging. And believe me, I have been there before and do understand. I am sorry to not offer our services outside the state of Arizona yet. But we are researching it in depth before taking that big step. Thank You for your attention: Sincerely Jeff Piurek Email: jeff777@netzone.com --------------B2C2E267906B7D094C7B90B6 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jeff Piurek Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Jeff Piurek n: Piurek;Jeff email;internet: jeff777@netzone.com x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------B2C2E267906B7D094C7B90B6--
From: case <case@SPAM.hellyeah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTSTep intel boot disks Date: 25 Nov 1997 17:24:34 GMT Organization: Ultimate Slack [[Hellyeah.com]] Message-ID: <65f1ki$p35@eve.enteract.com> A friend of mine just recently bought a NeXT station with the OS insalled on it and a NeXTStep intel CD set. However much to his dismay he can't mount it to get a boot image that may be on there, and he can't run the installer without a boot disk. Its for NeXT Step 4.2 developer. Is the boot disk publicly available? Could I all NeXT and have someone send me one? Thanks. +- remove SPAM from the above to reply via email.
From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: anim2mov in OS 4.2: How? Date: 21 Nov 1997 19:20:17 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <654mth$1qqe@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Hi all! Has anyone gotten the anim2mov shipped with OS 4.2 (as part of NEXTIME?) to work? There's no documentation I can discover, other than the cryptic usage message I get when I mess up one parameter or another. I think I don't quite grasp the "input_file_pattern" parameter. My files are named according to the following scheme: myanim.1.tiff myanim.2.tiff myanim.10.tiff myanim.11.tiff Do I need to have them named with a constant number of digits in their respective numbers? Best, Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ODBC/JDBC Database on NeXT Cube (o.s. 3.3)? Date: 26 Nov 1997 01:43:18 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <65furm$aod$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <3479F7F2.DDF08181@andante-systems.com> "John N. Alegre" <jalegre@andante-systems.com> wrote: >I am looking for an SQL database that I can serve to a TCP/IP network, >from NeXT O.S. 3.3, that also has access via ODBC/JDBC. In fact access >via ODBC/JDBC is my main concern. > >We want to serve the DB from a NeXT cube (OS 3.3) and use it to develop >client software on both NT and Mac(Rhaposdy). > >All comments welcome See www.openbase.com for a possibility. I haven't used it. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu (Brian K. Meadows) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apple Supports Only OpenStep Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:57:23 GMT Organization: Applied Chaos Lab Message-ID: <34763bca.7591414@news.gatech.edu> References: <347459cc.1248332@news.gatech.edu> <EK016z.ML5@nidat.sub.org> On Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:52:09 GMT, Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: >"Excuse me, but does this really matter? > >The level of support you could get from NeXT was close to zero anyway (as >long as you weren't in the "mission critical" crowd). > >And if you fear that APIs might break without warning, they used to brake >anyway, warning or not!" Typically when a vender classifies software as obsolete the company removes all drivers, patches, and reference material from the web site. So my guess would be that if it isn't on Peanuts now it will be gone for good, so even if you are Next savvy without this material your out of luck. Brian ______________________________________ Brian K. Meadows Applied Chaos Laboratory School of Physics Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA 30332-0430 phone: (404) 894-1448 fax: (404) 894-9958 email: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu WWW: http://acl.gatech.edu ______________________________________
Message-ID: <347B87A7.D96D63A4@bellsouth.net> From: nextjet@bellsouth.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Making backup of NS3.3 user Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 03:19:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:19:27 EST Hello has anyone sucessfully made a bootable copy of ns3.3 user using mkisofs and if so what options and flags did you use. thanks g.gobel
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTep intel boot disks Date: 25 Nov 1997 23:30:22 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <65fn2e$b21$1@newsfeeds.grolier.fr> References: <65f1ki$p35@eve.enteract.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit case <case@SPAM.hellyeah.com> wrote: > A friend of mine just recently bought a NeXT station with the OS insalled on > it and a NeXTStep intel CD set. > > However much to his dismay he can't mount it to get a boot image that may be > on there, and he can't run the installer without a boot disk. Its for NeXT > Step 4.2 developer. > > Is the boot disk publicly available? Could I all NeXT and have someone > send me one? Look at http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers some floppy boot iumages are present. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: anim2mov in OS 4.2: How? Date: 21 Nov 1997 19:13:13 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <654mg9$1h2s@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Hi all! Has anyone gotten the anim2mov shipped with OS 4.2 (as part of NEXTIME?) to work? There's no documentation I can discover, other than the cryptic usage message I get when I mess up one parameter or another. I think I don't quite grasp the "input_file_pattern" parameter. My files are named according to the following scheme: myanim.1.tiff myanim.2.tiff myanim.10.tiff myanim.11.tiff Do I need to have them named with a constant number of digits in their respective numbers? Best, Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: anim2mov in OS 4.2: How? Date: 21 Nov 1997 19:17:27 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <654mo7$ouo@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Hi all! Has anyone gotten the anim2mov shipped with OS 4.2 (as part of NEXTIME?) to work? There's no documentation I can discover, other than the cryptic usage message I get when I mess up one parameter or another. I think I don't quite grasp the "input_file_pattern" parameter. My files are named according to the following scheme: myanim.1.tiff myanim.2.tiff myanim.10.tiff myanim.11.tiff Do I need to have them named with a constant number of digits in their respective numbers? Best, Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: opardalis@aol.com (Opardalis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OS 4.2 on NeXTstation 25MHz Date: 26 Nov 1997 06:13:10 GMT Message-ID: <19971126061301.BAA00816@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com If anyone has OS 4.2 running on a 040 25MHz NeXTstation, I would love to know how it is performing? Does it slow the system down, etc?
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From: Eelke Blok <e.blok@student.utwente.nl> Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.acorn.networking,comp.sys.amiga.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.next.software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.software.mailr Subject: Re: ºô¸ôªº¾y¤O!! Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 16:12:35 +0100 Organization: University of Twente, Enschede, The Netherlands Message-ID: <347D8DE3.2D32BBB0@student.utwente.nl> References: <01bcfb45$8ca881e0$307d718c@jay.nctu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! THE MARTIANS HAVE LANDED!!!! -- ----------------------------------------------------- Eelke Blok e.blok@student.utwente.nl http://wwwedu.cs.utwente.nl/~genderen/blok Calslaan 30B-34 Kronenburgerstraat 19 7522 MD Enschede 1271 PJ Huizen The Netherlands The Netherlands 053-4330663 035-5258506 -----------------------------------------------------
From: ahoesch@on-luebeck.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to get a copy of WebObjects 3.1 Enterprise for Mach Date: 22 Nov 1997 13:42:28 GMT Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V. Message-ID: <656ng4$3q5@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de> Hello, I would like to test WebObjects for Mach. I searched the Apple WEB pages but did not find anything to download a demo version or order the software on CD. I'm not willing to pay many thousand dollar for a licence, before I don't know, whether it suits to my needs. I tried to get the software half a year ago but only got a CD with the software for WinNT. I don't like WinNT and won't install it for any reason. So, why isn't Apple/Next distributing theis software for their own OS? I heard, that Apple is distributing WebObjects to developers for free. Is this true? I would appreciate any hint, that helps to get a copy of this software (for OpenStep 4.2 Mach Intel!!!). Thanks in advance! Andreas Hoeschler
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple Supports Only OpenStep Date: 28 Nov 1997 00:08:40 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <65l228$ouf@mochi.lava.net> References: <347459cc.1248332@news.gatech.edu> <652ici$tl6$1@news2.apple.com> <199711210343561452593@sdn-ts-001txhousp12.dialsprint.net> <6540f1$qe9$1@news.lth.se> <19971126114003243647@sdn-ts-004txhousp07.dialsprint.net> drifterusa@sprintmail.com (John Bauer) wrote: > Christian Brunschen wrote: > > > 'OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2' is OpenStep + development tools on Windows > > NT... > > Then why didn't they call it OPENSTEP NTerprise? ;-) We wanted our NT product's name to have an "NT" prefix but were told by our copyright attorney that MS would fight it without prior permission from MS which would cost far more than we were willing to pay even if an agreement with MS were possible. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
From: John Douglas <john-d@nSoPAM.dircon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.acorn.networking,comp.sys.amiga.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.next.software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.software.mailr Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=BA=F4=B8=F4=AA=BA=BEy=A4O=21=21?= Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 02:25:46 +0000 Organization: via Direct Connection News service Message-ID: <347E2BAA.7A1A@nSoPAM.dircon.co.uk> References: <01bcfb45$8ca881e0$307d718c@jay.nctu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No - I think it's the Martinies have landed... 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From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ºô¸ôªº¾y¤O!! (attraction of the NET) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:42:21 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <347E4BAD.334570F2@bah.com> References: <01bcfb45$8ca881e0$307d718c@jay.nctu.edu.tw> <347D8DE3.2D32BBB0@student.utwente.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Eelke Blok <e.blok@student.utwente.nl> Eelke, I can see it's Traditional Chinese Text (in BIG5 format)... with a title of the attraction of the NET. TC Eelke Blok wrote: > WHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! > > THE MARTIANS HAVE LANDED!!!! > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Eelke Blok > e.blok@student.utwente.nl > http://wwwedu.cs.utwente.nl/~genderen/blok > Calslaan 30B-34 Kronenburgerstraat 19 > 7522 MD Enschede 1271 PJ Huizen > The Netherlands The Netherlands > 053-4330663 035-5258506 > -----------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.acorn.networking,comp.sys.amiga.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.next.software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.software.mailr From: dbryant@netcom.com (David K. Bryant) Subject: Re: ºô¸ôªº¾y¤O!! Message-ID: <dbryantEKCAyA.7Ao@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <01bcfb45$8ca881e0$307d718c@jay.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:54:10 GMT Sender: dbryant@netcom11.netcom.com Jay from Taiwan is on line 1 and he wants to know: >*B$M, 1z$@)w7Q9L&[$v*:,|DR750s: &3*a6i,v)P, >>V&3$@.u$'&a*:(F7~&(4N,>V&35L--&[%D'V<V*:%M,!$Q&a......... >)9)#&p7N*:,O, 5%1z&n$#.e)v1o(l$F$@5'8j2#.I, $].t$#&h-n " 'i&QAY6m "$F. >2{&b, 'Z+\<V7N)j5["*w?z,y" 8j7=&@(I*::k/+, 1N%H$U3o+h$p/53Z;P1z$@(I, >:\8[/,:V1z&-$i,|9Z&(/u. (* %u-n1z549o,[+H, $#-nCh:C , 3o$#,ODF'=)N34(@ >,$]'9%~&X*k) > ---------------6} )l 6l ;< &W 3f (F 7~------------!@ >$@6})l'Z$],A$@<K&bBsD}7s;D0Q=W0O*:$e39.I,](l$@=gC~&|*:$e39!AAn:Y%L%H&9 >8h&!AH7,0008U$8*:,G(F,7m.I%4&:'Z$]$#,[+H,&},O'Z&P.I$]7P(l,[7m&n)_!A'Z7Q >3o,O$j&h<F$H3#7|&3*:$_:A, &]&9'Z4ND~DrE*$U%h!C >3o-S-p5e,[7mB23f!A'A)R%26705*:4N,O1H%x9t >100$8$e39$:)R4#(l*:$--S$H!A5M+a1N'A&[$v*:&W&r&a'})q&b2D$--S$H*:&a$h!A5M+a >1Ng$e1i6K&b&\$V250-S7s;D0Q=W0O(&\$V&3&($d$W8U-S7s;D0Q=W0O)O!I)(S&3%t&s34 >(@!A4N,O3o;rB23f!C&b4X5f&R<{$'+a!A'Z(M)w8U8U,]!C'Z7Q'Z$](S&3$0;r$S$j*:7l%" >!A3L&h,O%x9t500$8)M51i5$86l2<'a!I 52*G,O??????? >&b5u5u7$Q$'$:!A'Z&,(l3\3\&h&h-n(D0Q%['Z*:6l;<&W3f*:+H(g!A&S(C$@+J+H(g$:3#'( >5[%x9t100$8!C3o,O$@65'9%~&X*k*:%M7N!C >'ZB2*=$#41,[+H'Z/`1q6l%s$$&,(l3o;r&h*:?z!C7m.I'Z,[7m3Y2'!A'Z7Q3o:X&n4:.#)H >,O$#7|+yDr$S$[*:!A&]&9(C(S&37Q$S&h!C&},O, 'Z+o >$@*=+yDr&,(l+H(g!C&b2D$@-SB'+t!A'Z4NAH6i$F%x9t10,000!C&S7m2D$G6g52't.I!A'Z >$w8g1o(l$F%x9t 50,000$8*:&,$J!C&b2D$T6g!A'ZAH6i6W9L >150,000$8!C&S%X+e$45M$#B_&3?z15Dr6i(S!C'Z7Q3o500$8*:'k8j,[7m&a-H1o!C > -------------------- 9j &f (B FJ ------------------ I agree with you on all points except your third. On this one we will have to agree to disagree. Though your reasoning is sound, I don't think you have considered the alternatives to such an action. Experience has shown us, at least those in the non-Warsaw pact countries, that such a philosophy has not been well received. Even in a few of the Muslim countries the populus has demonstrated a passive resistance. How on earth can you expect such drastic systemic changes be embraced by the man on the street when he has enough trouble setting the time on a VCR? Get Real!
From: Cosmo Roadkill Jr. <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.sys.amiga.software,comp.sys.amiga.software.pirate,comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.next.software,cs.software,cs-monolit.press.business.law,cu.business.general,cu.business.general.distance Subject: cmsg cancel <65cmjt$95a47@pluton.arcadis.be> Control: cancel <65cmjt$95a47@pluton.arcadis.be> Date: 28 Nov 1997 07:48:57 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.65cmjt$95a47@pluton.arcadis.be> Sender: bds@unicall.be"e" Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Wouter Pinkhof <geenspamWouter.Pinkhof@advalvas.be> Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.acorn.networking,comp.sys.amiga.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.next.software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.software.mailr Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=BA=F4=B8=F4=AA=BA=BEy=A4O=21=21?= Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:48:10 +0100 Organization: SKYNET SA/NV Message-ID: <347E854A.39B@advalvas.be> References: <01bcfb45$8ca881e0$307d718c@jay.nctu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay wrote: > It's the Chinese version of the Pyramid Game : = =A6W=A6r=A6b=B2=C4=A4=AD=A6=EC=AE=C9 1,500=A4=B8 =A6W=A6r=A6b=B2=C4=A5|=A6=EC=AE=C9 22,500=A4=B8 =A6W=A6r=A6b=B2=C4=A4T=A6=EC=AE=C9 337,500=A4=B8 =A6W=A6r=A6b=B2=C4=A4G=A6=EC=AE=C9 5,062,500=A4=B8 =A6W=A6r=A6b=B2=C4=A4@=A6=EC=AE=C9 75,937,500=A4=B8 Also look for the code words "Money" and "Microsoft Explorer" : you can actually play it on the Net now. Oh, BTW : if you read the message right to left, it becomes much clearer. = Wouter -- = Due to increased spamming, please remove "geenspam" in = order to get correct e-mail.
From: Cosmo Roadkill Jr. <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int%rauug.mil.wi.us@bofh.int> Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.acorn.networking,comp.sys.amiga.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.next.software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.software.mailr Subject: cmsg cancel <01bcfb45$8ca881e0$307d718c@jay.nctu.edu.tw> Control: cancel <01bcfb45$8ca881e0$307d718c@jay.nctu.edu.tw> Date: 28 Nov 1997 09:13:21 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.01bcfb45$8ca881e0$307d718c@jay.nctu.edu.tw> Sender: "Jay" <u8611036@cc.nctu.edu.tw> My From: line has been fudged because many test newsgroup autoresponders respond to control messages. My apologies! Please see the X-Cancelled-By: line for my proper address. Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: qaktrlcg@funny.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: $$$$$ GET RICH QUICK AND EASILY $$$$$ Date: 28 Nov 1997 07:40:45 GMT Organization: InnerX Message-ID: <65lsht$66m@buck.innerx.net> MAKE A FORTUNE-AND THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH! IF YOU HAVE READ THIS FAR, YOU HAVE ALREADY PROVEN IT WORKS!! Would you be interested in making thousands of dollars quickly and legally using the World Wide Web? If your answer is YES, then take five minutes to read this article. It will change your life. You can make up to or more than $50,000 in 4-6 weeks, maybe sooner! I'M NOT JOKING AND THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT A SCAM! THIS IS A SERVICE AND IS A 100% LEGAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY WHICH IS COVERED IN TITLE 18, SECTION 1302 AND 1342 OF THE POSTAL AND LOTTERY LAWS. The Internet has grown tremendously and it continues to double in size every 4 months. Think about it: You see all those "make.money.fast' posts more and more often. That's just simply because it works!! I was browsing around my newsgroups one morning and I stumbled across this article. Since I have this burning desire to make a lot of money and this headline caught my attention, I read it. As I was surfing the net, I read all these postings on how you can make over $50,000, even $800,000. Well I believe that if all goes well, and you follow the rules EXACTLY, it will work. Just follow the instructions given in this letter, and you to can make over $800,000, perfectly legally according to USA Post Office Laws (read on for specifics). Don't look at this as a money - making scam, but rather a true-to-life Example to test the above statement. It will only cost you $5 dollars plus 5 stamps, and a few hours of your time. Thus, there is some effort involved, because nothing in life is absolutely free. Are you ready and willing to accept that you deserve to receive a fair amount of money? If so, please continue reading. It said that you send $1.00 to each of the five names on the list. You then place your own name and address stated in the article at the bottom of the list at the #5 position and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups (there are literally thousands of them, and this doesn't take as much work as you think.) At first I thought, nobody's going to do this. And then I thought, what if they DO! Besides, what's five bucks anyway? That can't even buy a decent lunch. Well, it's still hard to believe…but two weeks later I began receiving bucks in the mail! I mean a lot of money!!! It not only works for me, but it works extremely well for others as well. Mike Ochoa says he made $35,382 in one month!! Joe Chanter made $42,000 in four weeks!!! Dave Manning made an incredible $53,664 in four short weeks! And Lars Myers says he only made $21,000 (ONLY??!!) That's the article. Now do I know all these people? No. But when I read how they did it, it started to make a lot of sense to me. As a matter of fact, it made enough sense that I'm now taking a similar chance with five measly dollars of my own. Not a huge investment that I can't afford to lose, but one with incredible potential to deliver money to my mailbox. Can you imagine making $20,000 or more for less than an hour's work? What are you making now? All you ever have to spend is five bucks and postage for the envelopes. That's all Mike, Dave, Joe and Lars did and look what happened to them: They made tens of thousands of dollars in a safe, legal and completely legitimate way. Let me show you how and why this works now. Also, make sure you print a copy of this article so you get the information from it and START MAKING MONEY NOW!!! Here goes: Get 5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each sheet of the paper, "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST". Fold a U.S. $1 bill inside each paper (wrap the bill with the paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope. Otherwise nosy people, who like to steal envelopes with money in them will see the bill and swipe your profits.) Put one paper inside an envelope and seal it. Do the same for all five. You should now have 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper and a U.S. dollar bill stuffed inside of the paper. You're not just sending a dollar to someone; you're actually paying for a legitimate service which is PERFECTLY LEGAL! Now, mail all 5 envelopes to the following addresses: 1. A. Curtin 24 Semton Blvd. Franklin Square, NY 11010 2. TEB 228 Wetzel Street Weirton,WV 26062 3. DAVID B. 228 Wetzel Street Weortpm. WV 26062 4. R.H. Box 320 Lamesa, Texas 79331 5. Travis Dominey 802 Briarwood St. Victoria, TX 77904 Step 2 Now remove the top name from the list that you see above and move the other names up (#5 becoming #4, #4 becoming #3, and so on) and put your name and address as the fifth on the list. Step 3 Post/send the amended article (with your name at #5 in the list) to at least 200 newsgroups. This is the REALLY IMPORTANT part, so don't try to shortcut it. I'll explain more about this under the WHY it works part. (You can also send by I.R.C. or e-mail). Post/send as many newsgroups as possible. REMEMBER THIS!!! The more groups you send/post to, the more people will see your article and send you cash. That's the real power of this business. You are now in business for yourself, and you should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days!! HOW TO POST THIS ARTICLE: If you have Netscape 3.0 do EXACTLY the following: 1. Click on any newsgroups like normal, then click on "TO NEWS" which is on the far left when you're in the newsgroups page. This will bring up a box to type a message in. 2. Leave the newsgroup box like it is, just CHANGE the SUBJECT to something flashy, such as "NEED CASH $$$ READ HERE $$$" OR "FAST CASH"!! 3. Tab once and you should be ready to post. Cut and paste this article exactly as it appears, except insert your name at #5, and Remove #1 off the list, plus any other small changes that you might think you need to make. Keep most of it the same though. You don't want to change it too much—it's proven to work just as it is written! 4. When you're done typing the WHOLE article, click on FILE. IN THIS BOX, right above send, now where it says NETSCAPE NEWS on the first box, click and SAVE AS when you're under FILE. Save your article as a text file to your C or A drive. Do not send your article until you do this. Once saved, move on to number 5 below. 5. If you still have all of your text, send or post to this newsgroup now by clicking send, which is right below FILE, and right above cc: 6. Here's where you're going to post all 200. OK, click on any news group then click on "TO NEWS" again in the top left corner. Leave the newsgroups box alone again, put a flashy subject title in the SUBJECT BOX, hit TAB once you're in the body of the message, and then click on ATTACHMENTS. You will get another box to come up. Click on ATTACHED FILE, and then find your file that you have saved earlier; click once on the file, and then click OPEN. NOW CLICK ON. OK; if you did this right, you should be able to see your name in the attachments box and it will be shaded green. 7. That's it. Each time you do this, all you have to do is type in a different newsgroup, so that way, it posts to 200 DIFFERENT newsgroups, you see? Now you only have 199 more left to go!! (Don't worry, each one takes about 30 seconds once you get used to it) REMEMBER THE MINIMUM IS 200. You are now in the mail order business and will start receiving your envelopes from various people all over the world within days. HINT: The more newsgroups you post to, the more money you will make. Incredibly simple, isn't it? LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SYSTEM WORKS!! Out of every 200 postings, let's say I only receive 5 replies, which is VERY LOW. So I made $5 with my name at #5. I've already made my money back! Now then, each person who just sent me $1 makes 200 postings, now with my name at #4, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF 1000 POSTINGS, not including your own. Say 50 people send you $1 now, which again is a very low response rate; That's $50 you made! Now then, your 50 new agents post 200 listings each with YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 3, or 10,000 postings (25 X 200). That's just how the system works at its worst case. However, the average return is 500 responses at $1 each. That's $500 in your pocket. Each of your new agents makes 200 postings, which is 5,000 returns at $1 each, which is $5,000. And finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings with YOUR NAME AT #1, YOU NOW GET A RETURN OF $50,000 BEFORE YOUR NAME DROPS OFF THE LIST, AND THAT'S IF EVERYONE MAKES 200 POSTINGS ONLY, AND WITH ONLY A 5 PERSON RESPONSE RATE!!!! When your name is no longer in the list, you just take the latest posting that is appearing in the newsgroups, and send out another $1 to the five people on the list, putting your name at #5 again. And start posting again. The thing to realize is that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday, just like you are right now!! So, can you afford $5 and see if it really works? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users everyday. REMEMBER: Work this fairly and honestly and it will work! The basic idea is for everyone to make money. Good luck to all who participate.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <65lsht$66m@buck.innerx.net> Control: cancel <65lsht$66m@buck.innerx.net> Date: 28 Nov 1997 09:24:47 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.65lsht$66m@buck.innerx.net> Sender: qaktrlcg@funny.net Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: boom@sonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OS 4.2 on NeXTstation 25MHz Date: 28 Nov 1997 15:14:35 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <65mn4r$1s9$4@news2.digex.net> References: <19971126061301.BAA00816@ladder02.news.aol.com> In OS 4.2 on NeXTstation 25MHz comp.sys.next.software opardalis@aol.com (Opardalis) writes, > If anyone has OS 4.2 running on a 040 25MHz NeXTstation, I would love to know > how it is performing? Does it slow the system down, etc? it is somewhat slower computationally, but for us, the new toys are worth it! the graphics are still pentium-speed, no sweat -- and you basically have rhapsody... cheers erik scheirer sonYx, Inc.
From: Dr John Stockton <jrs@merlyn.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000,comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.acorn.networking,comp.sys.amiga.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.next.software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.software.mailr Subject: Re: ºô¸ôªº¾y¤O!! Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:02:00 +0000 Organization: Home, Surrey, UK Distribution: world Message-ID: <wBqsnMAIDsf0Ew3K@merlyn.demon.co.uk> References: <01bcfb45$8ca881e0$307d718c@jay.nctu.edu.tw> <347E2BAA.7A1A@nSoPAM.dircon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In article <347E2BAA.7A1A@nSoPAM.dircon.co.uk> of Fri, 28 Nov 1997 02:25:46 in comp.software.year-2000, John Douglas <john- d@nSoPAM.dircon.co.uk> wrote, qouting all 8 screenfuls of stuff like this: >> ©¹©¹¤£¦p·Nªº¬O, µ¥±z¦n¤£®e©ö±o¨ì¤F¤@µ§¸ê²£®É, ¤]®t¤£¦hn " §i¦ÑÁÙ¶m "¤F. Prat. -- John Stockton, Surrey, UK. jrs@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v1.12 MIME. Web URL: http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/ - FAQqish topics, acronyms and links. Correct 4-line sig separator is as above, a line comprising "-- " (SoRFC1036) Before a reply, quote with ">" / "> ", known to good news readers (SoRFC1036)
From: "scott nichol" <nichol@netaxs.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Xfer files from HFS (Mac) -> UFS (Rhapsody) Date: 26 Nov 97 20:10:27 +0000 Organization: newsread.com ISP News Reading Service Message-ID: <B0A232C5-20B4F@207.8.209.18> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: nichol@netaxs.com nntp://netnews.netaxs.com/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://netnews.netaxs.com/comp.sys.next.programmer, nntp://netnews.netaxs.com/comp.sys.next.sysadmin <SMALLER>hello all: i've successfully loaded rhapsody onto my powermac 7600 and recently downloaded some updates and such through my powerbook to a HFS (MacOS) formatted zip cartridge. the gzipped files are OK on the mac side, but when the disk comes up under rhapsody, the file system is not properly recognized. so, how do i get the files onto my powermac on the rhapsody side? i don't have a direct ethernet connection and there's no PPP support yet for rhapsody. even if there was, how would i download it all? i thought the original openstep OS supported HFS volumes? why would apple cut this out of the developer release for rhapsody? it seems impossible to transfer files without some sort of removable media support. even the other HFS volumes on the MacOS side are seen by Rhapsody, but none of the files can be copied or read. are there any solutions to this problem? if not, i would find it difficult to even transfer a simple set of ascii source code without retyping it all. any help or guidance here would be greatly appreciated. thanks, scott nichol --------------------------------------------------- All things being equal, dirty people use more soap. --------------------------------------------------- mailto:nichol@netaxs.com (Scott Nichol) http://www.netaxs.com/~nichol </SMALLER>
From: Cosmo Roadkill Jr. <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <347f5ad7.0@news.futureone.com> Control: cancel <347f5ad7.0@news.futureone.com> Date: 28 Nov 1997 23:57:27 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.347f5ad7.0@news.futureone.com> Sender: alta2@usa.net Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
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From: takis@takis2.ee.net (Panagiotis Velissariou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: samba-1.9.17p4 and NS3.3 Date: 29 Nov 1997 05:10:06 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <65o83e$a1q$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi to all, I installed a few weeks ago the latest version of samba and almost everything seems to work ok but the following : 1) when the samba server is running (as deamon from rc.local) and I try to kill it "kill samba_pid" I get logged out (back to the loginwindow) If I start samba from the command line then the command "kill samba_pid" kills the proccess and everything is ok. 2) when I hit the restart button from the loginwindow and samba is already running as deamon (from rc.local) then I get the gray screen and then nothing happens (I mean all the proccesses are killed and then nothing ). I need to hit the "Power" button on the keyboard to shut down the computer. and then restart the computer again (restarts cleanly). If samba was started from the command line (terminal) hitting the restart button restarts the computer nicely and cleanly. Please, If you have any ideas what is going on or, you have encountered this problem I would very much appreciate your input. PS. Previous versions of samba were working fine on my machine. Panagiotis Velissariou takis@superior.eng.ohio-state.edu
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From: Emile de Kleine <e.de.kleine@med.rug.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preferences.app Date: 28 Nov 1997 16:01:10 GMT Organization: C3 - Center for Culture and Communication Message-ID: <65mps6$dj1@goliat.c3.hu> References: <64v41i$464$1@info.service.rug.nl> <EJwuoA.A4n@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger) wrote: >In <64v41i$464$1@info.service.rug.nl> Emile de Kleine wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I do not want the moving NeXT icon to appear after logging out. >> >> As root, you can alter some things with Login Window Preferences. But how do >> I set a costum screen saver, for example /NextDeveloper/Demos/BackSpace.app? >> (Actually, I just want a black screen.) >As root type e.g. > >dwrite loginwindow ScreenSaverBundle >/usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/SpaceSaver.loginbundle > >Hope this helps. > >Olaf I did as you wrote and changes were visible in Preferences.app, but no black screen; the moving NeXT icon appeared. What might go wrong? Emile
From: "Sean Hafeez" <hafeez-no-damm-spam@san.rr.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Lighthouse Apps Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:18:11 -0800 Organization: Road Runner Message-ID: <65q7oe$ru2$1@prefetch.san.rr.com> I went to www.lighthouse.com to get their applications for NeXT. It seems that they no longer support them. They are available for download (the demos) but I cannot get any information on buying copies. Does anyone know if they are still selling licenses for their applications? If not, does anyone know were I can get valid licenses. I would like to buy them however if they have stopped selling these applications I just need to get them to work. Thanks! Sean Hafeez Uniden SRC
From: Andrea <snoopoptek@juno.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can't boot NextSlab Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 20:58:21 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3480C83C.92A7D983@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a problem that I am sure taht one of you professional Next Guru's will be able to help me with. Here's the problem: After letting my slab lay idle for at least 3 weeks I want to load some software on it to find that it wouldn't boot. The system processes the booting form disk screen and when it gets to the checking disk screen, it simply hangs with the progress bar proceeding only one eight of the way. If I attempt to power of the system manually it just reboots and repeats the procedure. To effectively shut it down I have to depress COMMAND+ALTERNATE+POWER. There are times when I do this and the system briefly flashes a text only boot screen ( I can't remember the correct name for this screen). How can I get this problem corrected? Thanks to all in advance.
From: Seeger Fisher <seeger@spamoff.intier.nospam.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RDR-1 3rd party demos for Intel Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 01:24:02 -0800 Organization: Intier Corp. Message-ID: <347D3C31.CB3AACD8@spamoff.intier.nospam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there somewhere that these can be downloaded from? Or can someone with a PPC give a list of the companies with demos on the disk, so that those of us with intel boxes can try ftping from the individual demoers... thanks, -seeger seeger at intier dot com
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <8981880261224@digifix.com> Date: 30 Nov 1997 04:59:51 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <12245880866021@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: fflak@aurora.alaska.edu (KELLY ALONZO H) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mix/mixbox for NeXTSTEP Date: 28 Nov 1997 20:56:28 GMT Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks Message-ID: <65nb5s$3qk@news.alaska.edu> I have looked over a package from peanuts called "mix" which uses the DSP and an external box to provide modem/fax/voice services. Has anyone had experience with this who would be willing to give an opinion on the functionality and usefullness of such a package? Thanks, fflak@aurora.alaska.edu Lon Kelly
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb 3.0 with OpenStep 4.1? Date: 29 Nov 1997 23:37:50 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <65r54e$85l@slip.net> Header says it all. Thanks, Emmett
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