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From: "David Asaph" <asaph@eye-on.co.il> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hebrew applications for NeXTSTEP? Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:25:49 +0200 Organization: NetVision LTD. Message-ID: <60rqpm$i86$1@news.NetVision.net.il> Hi, Is there any software that supports hebrew under NS 3.3 or 4.2? Thanks David Asaph
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Performance.app is way cool From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <34318d6d.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 30 Sep 97 23:38:21 GMT Get it from peak. It's a kind of screen saver construction kit and more! A little flakey, but it's not finished....but here's my first public vote that it should be, and should be put out for Rhapsody to boot! The cool pulsating icon alone is worth the port :) Get it before the AfterDark folks make him pull away the ToStars module. Now you can make your own and more. Lord, and we thought there were too many screen savers coming out before, the damns gates are about to burst :) But has anyone figured out the director bit yet (I'm about to RTFOH-online help ;) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Rhapsody Developer Survey Date: 30 Sep 1997 23:50:15 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <60s37n$q7c$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <875628167.1489@dejanews.com> <60r7ir$bc0$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > In <875628167.1489@dejanews.com> MacGeeks@hotmail.com wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > We're compiling a list of Rhapsody Developers and their applications. > > If you or your company is porting from Mac OS or NeXTSTEP to Rhapsody, > > we'd like to hear from you. [...] > Announcements like yours are off-topic for this newsgroup. They should be > sent to ``next-announce@digifix.com'' for posting on > comp.sys.next.announce. I'm the guilty party here - I saw the original posting in comp.sys.mac.advocacy, and sent them mail that comp.sys.next.software would be the appropriate place to contact NeXTstep developers. I'm not sure that I agree that .announce would be the right place for this - I'm not fond of an announce group full of every little request, which I rather feel this is. But in any case, if this was the wrong place, I'm sorry, and you shouldn't blame "MacGeeks" (whoever they are), at least not for this. As for Rhapsody developers being under NDA, that's true, but I don't see how that would keep a developer from being able to say "yes, we're moving our apps to Rhapsody, here's what they are." -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Rhapsody Developer Survey Date: 1 Oct 1997 02:01:19 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60satf$lf5$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <875628167.1489@dejanews.com> <60r7ir$bc0$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60s37n$q7c$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com In <60s37n$q7c$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: > I'm the guilty party here A thousand lashes with a wet noodle, and you are forced to remove all but 8 megs of Ram from your machine, and then run in color ;-) > I saw the original posting in comp.sys.mac.advocacy, and sent them mail > that comp.sys.next.software would be the appropriate place to contact > NeXTstep developers. Why not csn.programmer ? > As for Rhapsody developers being under NDA, that's true, but I don't see how > that would keep a developer from being able to say "yes, we're moving our > apps to Rhapsody, here's what they are." That's true. Anyway, one way or another, it's not worth continuing, at least IMO. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: jklein@freon.artificial.com (jon klein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: OpenStep 4.2 problems! Date: 1 Oct 97 03:04:50 GMT Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Message-ID: <3431bdd2.0@192.33.12.30> I'm having a couple of problems running OpenStep on a turbo slab. I just upgraded from 3.3. 1. My windows still have the 3.3 look. Not a big problem, but it makes me wonder if the installation went right... 2. In my interface builder class list, the operations menu usually containing Subclass, Instantiate, Parse, etc is missing. I guess I can use the class submenu, but it looks to me like something is wrong... Has anybody encountered these problems? -- -jon klein, jklein@freon.artificial.com NeXTmail welcome
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.2 problems! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 1 Oct 1997 05:02:41 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60slhh$2g3$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <3431bdd2.0@192.33.12.30> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jklein@freon.artificial.com In <3431bdd2.0@192.33.12.30> jon klein wrote: > I'm having a couple of problems running OpenStep on a turbo slab. I > just upgraded from 3.3. > > 1. My windows still have the 3.3 look. Not a big problem, but it > makes me wonder if the installation went right... Well, NeXTStep apps still look the same... as well as Apps which have not been 'OpenStepIfied' Try running some OpenStep-only app and see if you notice a difference. OmniDNSHelper on www.omnigroup.com is a nice little app to try. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: "Michael Roberts" <c671143@showme.missouri.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for pictures about NeXT, and screenshots Date: 1 Oct 1997 05:32:14 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <01bcce2b$9a472280$6cd1ce80@becky-ii> I'm doing a project on NeXT. I need some good pictures of hardware, and possibly some real good screen shots. Thanks. -- Michael Roberts c671143@showme.missouri.edu http://www.missouri.edu/~c671143
From: "Michael Roberts" <c671143@showme.missouri.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Original black hardware specs Date: 1 Oct 1997 05:37:02 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <01bcce2b$d7fc8f20$6cd1ce80@becky-ii> When the first NeXT machine was released, what hardware was inside of it. About the only thing that I know is that it was a 68030. Thanks. -- Michael Roberts c671143@showme.missouri.edu http://www.missouri.edu/~c671143
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: looking for pictures about NeXT, and screenshots Date: 1 Oct 1997 06:16:34 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <60sps2$72t$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <01bcce2b$9a472280$6cd1ce80@becky-ii> "Michael Roberts" <c671143@showme.missouri.edu> wrote: >I'm doing a project on NeXT. I need some good pictures of hardware, and >possibly some real good screen shots. Thanks. >-- Hi, I'd look at http://www2.stepwise.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Stepwise/NSIntroSites for info. And for screenshots I'd try http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit/ (bottom of the page). Good luck. Rudy.
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: GCC for NS 4.1? Date: 1 Oct 1997 10:06:06 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <60t7ae$nbo$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [NS newbie Q.] Does anyone know where I could get gcc >= 2.7.x compiled for Intel PPro running NEXTSTEP 4.1? Failing that has anyone encountered any difficulties building gcc on the above from scratch? Many thanks, -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; MIME & NeXT Mail OK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: looking for pictures about NeXT, and screenshots References: <01bcce2b$9a472280$6cd1ce80@becky-ii> From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <3431ff7e.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 1 Oct 97 07:45:02 GMT "Michael Roberts" <c671143@showme.missouri.edu> wrote: > I'm doing a project on NeXT. I need some good pictures of > hardware, and possibly some real good screen shots. Thanks. Well, I don't know if my screen shots are real good...but they are screen shots. Check out the bottom of my web page for them. Address is in my sig below: -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Performance.app is way cool Date: 1 Oct 1997 15:13:17 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <60tpad$do5$1@news.seicom.net> References: <34318d6d.0@206.25.228.5> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: jkheit@xtdl.com In <34318d6d.0@206.25.228.5> John Kheit wrote: > Get it from peak. It's a kind of screen saver construction kit > and more! A little flakey, but it's not finished....but here's my > first public vote that it should be, and should be put out for > Rhapsody to boot! The cool pulsating icon alone is worth the port Seconded. This is a *mega* cool application, surprise your friends, shock your enemies. :-) -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Sam Byun <sbyun@mr.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Openstep 4 boot floppy images... Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 11:35:55 -0500 Organization: MRNet Internet Services Message-ID: <34327BEB.CBE80EB5@mr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone happen to know where one can get a copy of the Openstep 4 boot images? I seem to have run over mine with a chair... SIGH Sam Byun <sbyun@mr.net>
From: Happy N00dle Boy <n00dle@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: No SCSI Disk error Date: 1 Oct 1997 10:41:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Message-ID: <60u1vd$3s5@nntp02.primenet.com> Greetings, I have a 25mhz, 040 next cube. I just got this, it had a damaged 2.6 gig NeXT drive, which I replaced with a 1.2 gig quantum fireball. I was able to borrow a bootable NeXT drive from a friend and built the system on this new disk using the external SCSI port. All appeared to go well. I placed the new drive in the cube and built a third system on a friend's disk. I then shut the system down and very carefully moved the cube to a new location. I try to boot and get the following: boot sd(0,0,0) No SCSI Disk I have verified that the new HD is still operational. Any help or suggests you could offer would be appreciated. Thanks, -Tim n00dle@primenet.com
From: escape@paranoia.com (Mike Watts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: dump/restore filesystem Date: 1 Oct 1997 20:26:13 GMT Organization: Praxsys System Development Message-ID: <60ubl5$rb4$1@e4000.supernews.com> I have an intel/4.2 machine with an IDE and a SCSI drive. I would like to dump the filesystem from the IDE drive to the SCSI drive. The command I have formulated is: dump 0f - / | (cd /disk; restore xf -) the SCSI drive has been newfs'd and mounted at /disk When I run this command, I get stuff like "Tape is not a dump tape" or "Could not read disk label" and it stops the dump. No amount of tweaking seems to make any difference, and the command is taken just about verbatim from the restore man page. Any ideas? thanks, mike -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-J o h n M i c h a e l W a t t s-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-= escape@paranoia.com http://www.paranoia.com/~escape/ -=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "El Riesgo Siempre Vive" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Testers searched: Internet phone programs Date: 1 Oct 1997 23:23:40 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <60um1s$opv$1@news.seicom.net> Hello folks! I am looking for adventurous people willing to test a port (by Roberto Di Cosmo and me) of speakfreely-6.1c to NeXTSTEP/OpenStep. There seems still some problems with the audio input and output, on some hardware / driver combinations and I like to find out if the problem is a hard one or can be somehow programmed around. If you - Have access to several (at least two) Intel PCs, HPPA or Sparc boxes (m68k NeXTs does not show this particular problem I am about to investigate but simply work) running NeXTSTEP 3.x or OpenStep with soundcard, speaker and microphone attached. - want to test the program (it is only a command line tool at the moment) just send an email to me. I will provide the program by web access. US citizens: Be prepared not to reexport the speakfreely programs as they contain strong cryptography which is 'munition equivalent' in the US. As I live in Germany (as German) this restriction does not apply to me. --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19971002.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970923.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970916.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 02 Oct 1997 01:00:00 +0100 Organization: Private System, London SW19, UK Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Sep-02 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-Sep-27 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets can be found on the Internet: <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: dump/restore filesystem Date: 2 Oct 1997 00:17:37 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <60up71$gmq$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <60ubl5$rb4$1@e4000.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <60ubl5$rb4$1@e4000.supernews.com> On 10/01/97, Mike Watts wrote: > I have an intel/4.2 machine with an IDE and a SCSI >drive. I would like to dump the filesystem from the IDE drive >to the SCSI drive. The command I have formulated is: > >dump 0f - / | (cd /disk; restore xf -) > >the SCSI drive has been newfs'd and mounted at /disk Being tape-oriented, dump seems to like to have the s arg supplied, and I have always used the old default tape length of 120000. The following has always worked fine for me, under NS 3.0 -> 3.3. I don't have 4.2 installed. dump 0ufs - 120000 / |(cd /disk; restore -xf -) On Intel machines, you sometimes get a "broken pipe" error at the end of the session, unless you do the above in single-user mode. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. (403) 492-2834 gfin@psych.ualberta.ca http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: louis@orb.isdn.emory.edu (Louis Leon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NIS+ Date: 2 Oct 1997 02:29:50 GMT Organization: Emory University Message-ID: <60v0uu$2fl@lendl.cc.emory.edu> References: <60p9ic$i52@news.mty.itesm.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: al601027@academ11.mty.itesm.mx In <60p9ic$i52@news.mty.itesm.mx> Beatriz E. Duran Castaneda wrote: > > > - is it posible the installation of NIS+ in NexTStep? No. NIS+ is a Solaris-native naming service. > > Where could I find the software You need Solaris. I have not heard of the NIS+ libraries being available on anything but Solaris. If you need to use the NIS+ as a naming service from NextStep, then I can think of at least one (non-realtime) way. But it would probably be best to continue this conversation either offline from this group or to move it to c.s.n.sysadmin where you could benefit from many minds. -- Louis Leon
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <60v1a4$i6i@ns2.borg.com> Control: cancel <60v1a4$i6i@ns2.borg.com> Date: 02 Oct 1997 02:40:42 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.60v1a4$i6i@ns2.borg.com> Sender: <sunbrst9@borg.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Andrew Engelmann <engelman@colorado.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: Examples of NSTimer? Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 09:17:09 -0600 Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Message-ID: <3433BAF5.4DD2@colorado.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: engelman Openstepers, Can anyone direct me to some good examples of setting up a timer in OPENSTEP 4.2 Enterprise running on Windows NT using the NSTimer object? The online help is somewhat lacking and I'm getting a parse error. Thanks. -Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Engelmann Nonlinear and Real-Time Control Lab Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Engineering, Campus Box 425 University of Colorado Boulder, CO 80309-0425 (303)492-2818 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Paul.J.Buckley@columbia.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Performance Examples/... Date: 2 Oct 1997 17:10:07 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <610khf$8r5$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Hi, I got hold of Performance after all the high speech, but I've not been able to see the wonders in action because the examples don't work. When they try to load the message "/LocalLibrary/Performance/Examples/ToaStars.prf/actor is not a supported Actor file" appears. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Original black hardware specs Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EHEI23.82x@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 01:42:02 GMT References: <01bcce2b$d7fc8f20$6cd1ce80@becky-ii> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <01bcce2b$d7fc8f20$6cd1ce80@becky-ii>, Michael Roberts <c671143@showme.missouri.edu> wrote: >When the first NeXT machine was released, what hardware was inside of it. >About the only thing that I know is that it was a 68030. Thanks. '030 CPU, '882 FPU, 56001 DSP, 256MB optical drive, 8MB RAM (right? help me here...), some graphics hardware, various and sundry glue chips. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: nospam@ried_at_mpip-mainz.mpg.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Tailor crashs DPS in 16 Bit Color Date: 2 Oct 1997 17:57:40 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <610nak$t91$2@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hi folks, The postscripteditor Tailor.app on an intel running OpenStep 4.2 with a Matrox Millenium 2MB in 16 Bit Colormode crashs the DPS Window Server in some reproduceable cases. (TeXFonts) Has anybody see this too ? Reducing the colorspace to 8 Bit or increasing it to 32 Bit (if the Matrox has 4MB Ram) makes Tailor stable again. Is there a newer version of Tailor than the version 2.0d I have? Thanks stef -- _____________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G.\ |E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME/NeXT welcome) | |Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 __/___/ | |Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| |WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried \_/ \_/| | There are only three types of computer users: | | Those that use NeXTs. Those that wished they used NeXTs. | | Those that don't know what they are missing. | \_____________________________________________________________________/
From: William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Image conversion from PNG to TIFF? Date: 3 Oct 1997 09:23:36 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <612dio$m5j$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Does anybody have a free app or code that will convert PNG image format to TIFF (or anything else)? Thanks. William Clocksin wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk
From: frederic@precipice.com (Frederic Foucault) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image conversion from PNG to TIFF? Date: 3 Oct 1997 13:18:32 GMT Message-ID: <612rb8$ns0@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <612dio$m5j$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk In <612dio$m5j$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote: > Does anybody have a free app or code that will convert PNG image format to > TIFF (or anything else)? Thanks. > > William Clocksin > > wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk > Yep, try ToyViewer 2.6. ToyViewer Ver.2.6 (Feb. 1997) Abstract 1. ToyViewer can read and display image files in following formats: tiff, eps, gif, bmp, png, jpg, bie(jbig), pcx, pcd, pnm (ppm, pbm, or pgm), xbm, and mag. 2. Displayed images can be saved in following formats: tiff, eps, gif, bmp, png, jpg, bie(jbig), pnm, or xbm. 3. ToyViewer can read and write gif or png files with transparent color, and also can read and write interlaced(progressive) gif, png, or jpg files. Bye Frederic Foucault
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image conversion from PNG to TIFF? Date: 3 Oct 1997 13:59:16 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <612tnk$dvv@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <612rb8$ns0@news1-alterdial.uu.net> In article <612rb8$ns0@news1-alterdial.uu.net> frederic@precipice.com (Frederic Foucault) writes: > In <612dio$m5j$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote: > > Does anybody have a free app or code that will convert PNG image format > > to TIFF (or anything else)? Thanks. > Yep, try ToyViewer 2.6. Would you be kind to point out where one could GET ToyViewer Ver2.6? My search on peak and peanuts showed only ver2.5 available. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter Burka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: File Conversion Date: 3 Oct 1997 13:30:57 GMT Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, PEI Canada Message-ID: <612s2h$ou8@atlas.cs.upei.ca> Keywords: WriteNow Does anyone know of a way to convert WriteNow files to IBM PC compatable files (software or other) Please respond to vmacswain@upei.ca Thanks
From: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anybody using TeXmenu ??? Date: 3 Oct 1997 14:05:46 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <612u3q$285@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> I am trying to reach the author to buy a license but he won't answer. Please, could somebody sell me an unused license. I need it quickly. Thank you, Francois -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image conversion from PNG to TIFF? Date: 3 Oct 1997 15:53:40 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6134e4$2rp$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <612dio$m5j$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk In <612dio$m5j$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote: > Does anybody have a free app or code that will convert PNG image format to > TIFF (or anything else)? Thanks. I have found that ToyViewer can convert lots of stuff to lots of other stuff. It's not a command-line tool if that is what you were looking for. ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/viewers/ToyViewer.2.5.NI.b.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/viewers/ToyViewer.2.5.NIHS.b.tar.gz TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: haller@nowhere.romulus.uwaterloo.ca (Kirk Haller) Subject: Re: open problem Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner) Message-ID: <EHFrvE.3zv@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Cc: bobs@terrapin.phys.washington.edu Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:11:38 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <60uiih$15f0$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: University of Waterloo In <60uiih$15f0$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu> Robert Singleton wrote: Robert> I'm having a problem starting an application with the open Robert> command. Using the TeXview.app application, I would like Robert> to view the .dvi "file.dvi"; however, I get the following Robert> complaint: terrapin:% open -a /LocalApps/TeXview.app file.dvi open: can't open connection to /LocalApps/TeXview.app on local host. Robert> I can of course double click on file.dvi and open the Robert> application, but this is not convenient if I'm using a Robert> shell window. Also, I should point out that *if* the Robert> TeXview.app is already running, I'm perfectly able to view Robert> file.dvi with the open command. Thanks very much for any Robert> advice. Robert, I tried this on my machine running NeXTStep 3.3. For some reason the `-a' does not work as advertised. If you remove it, you above line will work. E.g., terrapin:% open /LocalApps/TeXview.app file.dvi Of course, if TeXview is open and you are re-texing a file from the command line, you can type tex -v file and have it message the viewer. Now, it seems to me that at one time I could do that from the command line and get it to open TeXview. When I updated to teTex, that feature seemed to be lost. Perhaps its just my memory deteriorating. --- Kirk Haller haller@romulus.uwaterloo.ca ************************************************************ Computer Graphics Lab Department of Computer Science University of Waterloo Waterloo, ON Canada N2L 3G1 ************************************************************ -- Kirk Haller haller@romulus.uwaterloo.ca ************************************************************ Computer Graphics Lab Department of Computer Science University of Waterloo Waterloo, ON Canada N2L 3G1 ************************************************************
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image conversion from PNG to TIFF? Date: 3 Oct 1997 17:56:10 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <613bjq$2rp$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <612rb8$ns0@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <612tnk$dvv@crcnis3.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rdieter@math.unl.edu In <612tnk$dvv@crcnis3.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote: > In article <612rb8$ns0@news1-alterdial.uu.net> frederic@precipice.com > > Yep, try ToyViewer 2.6. > > Would you be kind to point out where one could GET ToyViewer Ver2.6? I did a little snooping around and found the main ftp site ftp://tuba.csedu.kobe-u.ac.jp/pub/NEXTSTEP/ However, getting a connection was difficult, and download was relatively slow. > My search on peak and peanuts showed only ver2.5 available. It's on PEAK now. ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/viewers/ I'll upload it to peanuts as well. I would expect it will end up at ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Graphics/viewer/ TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image conversion from PNG to TIFF? Date: 3 Oct 1997 18:24:25 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <613d8p$2rp$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <612rb8$ns0@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <612tnk$dvv@crcnis3.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rdieter@math.unl.edu,ogihara@seg.kobe-u.ac.jp Can someone tell me what Auto-Scanning means? There is an option for it in ToyViewer.... TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: open problem Date: 3 Oct 1997 20:03:19 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <613j27$2rp$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <60uiih$15f0$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu> <EHFrvE.3zv@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: haller@romulus.uwaterloo.ca [Kirk - Your .sig was included twice in your post, fyi] The 'open -a' feature will work only with the PublicWindowServer turned ON which is a bad security thing to do if the machine is not standalone or isolated. There is a newer version of 'open' which gets around this: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/unix/open.1.0.NIHS.bs.README ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/unix/open.1.0.NIHS.bs.tar.gz which does not require the PublicWindowServer on. I'm not sure if: open /LocalApps/Appname.app/Appnmae -NXOpen /path/to/file would work with the old version or not.... but there's still no reason not to upgrade to the new version of open... it is quite nice. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: help: pico and Mac NCSA Telnet Program Date: 3 Oct 1997 23:43:41 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <613vvd$abe$2@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <60pkdi$m8g@agate.berkeley.edu> Satoru Uzawa (satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu) wrote: >The Mac NCSA telned program sends "Ctrl-J" for "Carriage Return" and >"/usr/bin/pico" (ver. 2.3) in NeXTSTEP 3.3 uses "Ctrl-J" for "Justify" >function. I modified the source code of pico, recompiled and using it for >the user who logs in with Mac NCSA telned program. But this is definitely >not a permanent solution for the problem. Oh, come on, this has been reiterated a million times. SURELY we can put this into the FAQ, no? You'll need to do two things to get NCSA Telnet for the Macintosh to work happily with NeXT's telnetd and with pico/pine in specific. First, add the following line to the end of your .cshrc file: stty -extproc Second, you need eliminate the absurd NCSA Telnet auto-keymappings. To do this, first get the latest version of NCSA Telnet. Then choose the Edit:Preferences:Sessions menu item. Next, select "<Default>" (or set up a custom version for your NeXT machine(s) if you're only connecting to one or two of 'em) and press "Change". Clear out (completely erase) the three key values in the boxes labeled "Interrupt", "Suspend", and "Resume". Press "Okay". This tells NCSA Telnet that, for example, when you press control-C it should *send* a control-C to the system, and not "Interrupt" (blech). Now get rid of whatever hacks you've put into Pico, or compile a new one clean or grab it off the net. Pico/Pine works just peachy after these settings (I'm writing you from it, wait, here let me justify this line with a control-J. Yes!!! _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: Tony Drolson <tdrolson@sfaids.ucsf.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Original black hardware specs Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 13:35:13 -0700 Organization: UCSF AIDS Research Program Message-ID: <34355701.1F81@sfaids.ucsf.edu> References: <01bcce2b$d7fc8f20$6cd1ce80@becky-ii> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Michael Roberts <c671143@showme.missouri.edu> Michael Roberts wrote: > > When the first NeXT machine was released, what hardware was inside of it. > About the only thing that I know is that it was a 68030. Thanks. > -- > Michael Roberts > c671143@showme.missouri.edu > http://www.missouri.edu/~c671143 Find the book "The NeXT Bible," it's in more libraries than you'd think. It details the original Cube (was written before 1.0 release, I think) in great detail and describes the software available and gives an into to UNIX in general. NeXT also published a library of books, but they're not so readily available, except for a really good technical bookstore. I've been looking.
From: "David Glowacki" <dglow@microsoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Original black hardware specs Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:03:23 -0700 Organization: Microsoft Corp. Message-ID: <614bom$tsr@news.microsoft.com> References: <01bcce2b$d7fc8f20$6cd1ce80@becky-ii> <34355701.1F81@sfaids.ucsf.edu> Here's some info on the book I think you're referring to: The NeXT Book by Bruce F. Webster Addison-Wesley, 1989 387p. ISBN: 020115851X Included are some pre-1.0 NeXTstep screenshots: unfinished icons, early version of the file browser UI, etc. The differences from what we have today are neat to see, but what's even cooler is to notice 0how little has changed overall; in so many ways NeXT really got it right the first time! Tony Drolson wrote in message <34355701.1F81@sfaids.ucsf.edu>... >Michael Roberts wrote: >> >> When the first NeXT machine was released, what hardware was inside of it. >> About the only thing that I know is that it was a 68030. Thanks. >> -- >> Michael Roberts >> c671143@showme.missouri.edu >> http://www.missouri.edu/~c671143 > >Find the book "The NeXT Bible," it's in more libraries than you'd >think. It details the original Cube (was written before 1.0 release, >I think) in great detail and describes the software available and >gives an into to UNIX in general. NeXT also published a library of >books, but they're not so readily available, except for a really >good technical bookstore. I've been looking.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP! Epson Color Stylus Drivers dont work with new Stylus' :( From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <3435e851.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 4 Oct 97 06:55:13 GMT Hi all. For a while I have been hapily using two Epson Color Stylus' (the original) with DOTs software (version 3.6) on Intel hardware. Well one of the printers died recently, and I replaced it with an Epson Stylus Color 800. But the driver doesn't seem to support this printer in any way. Whenever I try to print, it just keeps feeding in a page, printing a single line, and then feeding in another page over and over. Worse yet, I cannot contact the author of DOTs, Federico Heinz. Email from the address supplied in the app bounces (dots@heinz.com). So I thought I'd try the demo version of JetPilot2.3. I try installing the pkg's as root, and that goes well, but when I run JetPilotManager, no printers are listed :( Finally, I cant contact the folks that made eXTRAPRINT (which was a way cool driver for the NeXT Color Printer, and I know also could support the original color stylus). Anyway, I'm looking for any help with any of the above solutions that will get my Epson Color Stylus 800 printing from OPENSTEP 4.2. So if you have this printer working, or know Federico's new email, or know how to make JetPilot work, or anything at all that might help, I would really, REALLY, and GREATLY appreciate any help. Oh, and please send me email because my provider is still having problems with the usenet feed, and Im not getting most posts :( UG what a shtinky week of poo poo computer problems ): Thanks so much again. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP! Epson Color Stylus Drivers dont work with new Stylus' :( References: <3435e851.0@206.25.228.5> From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <34366217.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 4 Oct 97 15:34:47 GMT John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> wrote: > For a while I have been hapily using two Epson Color Stylus' (the > original) with DOTs software (version 3.6) on Intel hardware. > Well one of the printers died recently, and I replaced it with > an Epson Stylus Color 800. But the driver doesn't seem to support > this printer in any way. Whenever I try to print, it just keeps > feeding in a page, printing a single line, and then feeding in > another page over and over. > Worse yet, I cannot contact the author of DOTs, Federico Heinz. > Email from the address supplied in the app bounces (dots@heinz.com). > So I thought I'd try the demo version of JetPilot2.3. I try > installing the pkg's as root, and that goes well, but when I run > JetPilotManager, no printers are listed :( Finally, I cant > contact the folks that made eXTRAPRINT (which was a way cool > driver for the NeXT Color Printer, and I know also could support > the original color stylus). > Anyway, I'm looking for any help with any of the above solutions > that will get my Epson Color Stylus 800 printing from OPENSTEP > 4.2. So if you have this printer working, or know Federico's new > email, or know how to make JetPilot work, or anything at all that > might help, I would really, REALLY, and GREATLY appreciate any > help. Duh, thanks, that was clueless of me. Ok I set up JetPilot2.3/JetPilotManager, and used the Stylus Color Pro driver, and the demo seems to work for what I print. You first have to use PrintManager to select one of the JP_* drivers. Anyway, after the page is done printing, the darn printer keeps feeding extra pages, and printing a single seemingly random line on each of those pages; the only way to stop it is to turn the printer off. Do you have any idea why? I'm guessing the StylusColorPro driver is closest to the epson color stylus 800? Aye, why is nothing ever easy!? :) Thanks so much for the help! :) Oh, and please send me email because my provider is still having problems with the usenet feed, and Im not getting most posts :( UG what a shtinky week of poo poo computer problems ): -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: No SCSI Disk error Message-ID: <EHJGB5.Fp@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <60u1vd$3s5@nntp02.primenet.com> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 17:52:17 GMT In article <60u1vd$3s5@nntp02.primenet.com> Happy N00dle Boy <n00dle@primenet.com> writes: > Greetings, > > I have a 25mhz, 040 next cube. > > I just got this, it had a damaged 2.6 gig NeXT drive, which I replaced > with a 1.2 gig quantum fireball. I was able to borrow a bootable NeXT > drive from a friend and built the system on this new disk using the > external SCSI port. All appeared to go well. I placed the new drive in > the cube and built a third system on a friend's disk. I then shut the > system down and very carefully moved the cube to a new location. > > I try to boot and get the following: > > boot sd(0,0,0) > No SCSI Disk > > I have verified that the new HD is still operational. > Looks like the we got the good ol'e SCSI hard disk FAQ, again ;-) All black hardware needs SCSI hard disks set to SCSI level 1 in asynch mode. Failure to set asynch mode renders the disk unbootable (like in your case), failure to disable extended command set makes the machine panic under heavy I/O load. Might be there was some kind soul answering how to set up a Quantum Fireball (I've never seen one, sorry). You might find the trace on one of the known Usenet archives (Peak or Peanuts, for instance) or possibly in the FAQ on Peanuts. But a data sheet and some logic would do as well. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <27562875419231@digifix.com> Date: 5 Oct 1997 03:49:06 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <10325876024022@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image conversion from PNG to TIFF? Date: 4 Oct 1997 22:15:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <6177ol$6e4@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <612rb8$ns0@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <612tnk$dvv@crcnis3.unl.edu> <613d8p$2rp$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: nospam@all.please In <613d8p$2rp$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > Can someone tell me what Auto-Scanning means? There is an option for it in > ToyViewer.... > I think it's got something to do with scanning for images in folders. Probably for the auto slideshow, it's the delay between successive images. -- //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Laser Enhancement? Date: 4 Oct 1997 22:21:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <61783s$6k2@nntp02.primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A while back I could have sworn that JetPilot had a special free driver for the NeXT Laser Printer, or was this some other title? I installed the newer version, and it does not have this driver. -- //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu (bryce sady) Subject: Mail.app "regex error" Message-ID: <EHKz04.An9@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 13:33:39 GMT Everytime I go to read a peice of mail on my NS3.3 black system I get the error "Regular Expression Error: Invalid Partial". This applies to my Active folder as well as all my other folders, which worked fine up until yesterday. I've upgraded sendmail, but these folders were working fine immediately after I switched the sendmail. I read my messages in mail.app and also in pine 3.95. My pine mailboxes are linked to the mbox of each Mail.app mailbox. I don't have any trouble at all reading my messages in Pine. I've been reading my mail this way without any trouble for a few months. Anything I can do to cure this, or do I need to rebuild my mailboxes? bryce -- bryce sady NeXT / Mime mail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu (bryce sady) Subject: Re: Mail.app "regex error" Message-ID: <EHKzAx.B3o@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago References: <EHKz04.An9@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 13:40:08 GMT this is caused, as i have been just told, but the "expand smiley" function which i clicked out of curiosity last night. it would have been cute had it actually worked. oh well. bryce -- bryce sady NeXT / Mime mail ok
From: tpayne@u.washington.edu (T. Payne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP with Next? Date: 5 Oct 1997 14:13:03 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <61879f$12r8$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: tpayne Summary: Need basic info on connnecting over phone lines Keywords: PPP modem Next Can anyone suggest a basic reference to help me set up my NS3.3 Intel system via PPP? I'm futzing around trying to edit /etc/REMOTE to use tip to connect, but have found nothing on PPP. I'm starting at the very beginning: modem, phone line, and software shipped with NS3.3. Thanks. -- Thomas H. Payne, MD VA Puget Sound Health Care System, Seattle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.nsc.32k From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.3437BE8A.1833@worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <3437BE8A.1833@worldnet.att.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <3437BE8A.1833@worldnet.att.net> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 16:30:08 GMT Sender: MIke Downey <downey1@worldnet.att.net> ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark.
From: ogihara@seg.kobe-u.ac.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image conversion from PNG to TIFF? Date: 06 Oct 97 12:32:52 Organization: Kobe University Message-ID: <ogihara.97Oct6123252@celesta> References: <612rb8$ns0@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <612tnk$dvv@crcnis3.unl.edu> <613d8p$2rp$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain In article <613d8p$2rp$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>: > Can someone tell me what Auto-Scanning means? There is an > option for it in ToyViewer.... You can display images saved in a directory one after another. See the Help Panel, please. ---- Scan Images in a Folder Clicking "File / Scan Folder" of the menu, you can select a folder to scan image files in it. Image files are displayed automatically using a control panel. Folder that includes image files can also be selected by command- dragging its icon onto the application tile of ToyViewer. But, if there are only a few files in the folder, control panel does not appear and these files are displayed normally. In order to start auto-display, click "Start" button of the panel. Then, image files in the folder displayed automatically at regular intervals. "Pause" button stops auto-display, and you can chose the image file with the slider on the panel. Interval time is set by the preference panel. As new images are displayed, windows of previous images are closed automatically. But, windows that were once miniaturized are not closed automatically. --ogihara--
From: none@calweb.com (Alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Original black hardware specs Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:29:02 -0700 Organization: Disorganized Message-ID: <MPG.ea1fadb586d68969896fc@news.supernews.com> References: <01bcce2b$d7fc8f20$6cd1ce80@becky-ii> <34355701.1F81@sfaids.ucsf.edu> In article <34355701.1F81@sfaids.ucsf.edu>, tdrolson@sfaids.ucsf.edu says... > Find the book "The NeXT Bible," it's in more libraries than you'd > think. It details the original Cube (was written before 1.0 release, > I think) in great detail and describes the software available and > gives an into to UNIX in general. NeXT also published a library of > books, but they're not so readily available, except for a really > good technical bookstore. I've been looking. > Try Powell's bookstore in Portland Oregon. They have to be one of the most fabulous book stores on earth. They stock just about one of everything. (New or used.) At one time I lived in the area, and a trip to Powells was like going on a treasure hunt. The "store" is several stories tall, and takes up over an entire city block. They have also expanded out into satellite locations, because one building couldn't hold it all. At one time they had a web site. Don't know if they currently do.
From: none@calweb.com (Alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next Software Question? Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:32:04 -0700 Organization: Disorganized Message-ID: <MPG.ea1fb93dce68f599896fd@news.supernews.com> Ok, I'm a Wintel Wussi-boy. However, I have came across a Next cube at a swap meet for cheap money, and it was my dream machine not so many years ago. Can someone tell me what were the last/current(?) versions of graphics/drawing and DTP programs for the machine? I'd like to get some software onto this puppy and do something besides boot it up. Thanks!
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Performance Examples/... Date: 6 Oct 1997 08:26:20 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <61a7bc$u9u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <610khf$8r5$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Paul.J.Buckley@columbia.edu wrote: >Hi, > I got hold of Performance after all the high speech, but I've not >been able to see the wonders in action because the examples don't work. When >they try to load the message >"/LocalLibrary/Performance/Examples/ToaStars.prf/actor is not a supported >Actor file" appears. >-- > It seems that the demos(!) only work on Intel (Sun, HP?) hardware and not on black. The output of a black machine in Document.parts differs from that in the examples (the header: streamtyped and typedstream for example). I tried to hack the header of the Document.parts-file inside the .prf-folder, but this results in many postscript-errors like out of range etc. BTW: On a white machine the demos are pretty cool :-) and you can make your own demos pretty fast and simple with the actors in Performance/actors and Performance/Examples/.../*.actors! ciao Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.perl.misc From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Subject: Cannot compile perl 5.004.03 under NEXTSTEP 3.3 Sender: news@RnA.NL Organization: R&A Message-ID: <EHMDJp.2t9@RnA.NL> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:45:25 GMT When compiling perl 5.004.03 under NEXTSTEP I get: `sh cflags libperl.a toke.o` toke.c CCCMD = cc -DPERL_CORE -c -DUSE_NEXT_CTYPE -arch m68k -arch i386 -arch hppa -arch sparc -I/usr/local/include -O cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1obj got fatal signal 11 *** Exit 1 Stop. 1. Does anybody know what this error implies? 2. Has anyone succesfully compiled perl 5.004.03 under NEXTSTEP 3.3? Thanks, -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. Renee: "Met veel koper maakt men hoempa." (After hearing Brahms' Festouverture)
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Original black hardware specs Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:11:57 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EHMn3y.5y9@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <614bom$tsr@news.microsoft.com> In article <614bom$tsr@news.microsoft.com> "David Glowacki" <dglow@microsoft.com> writes: > Here's some info on the book I think you're referring to: > > The NeXT Book > ... No thats a differnt (but equally relevant book). $an
From: vmacswain@upei.ca (Virginia MacSwain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: File Conversion Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:52:57 UNDEFINED Organization: Psychology Department, University of PEI Message-ID: <vmacswain.1.001C72D7@upei.ca> Keywords: WriteNow Does any one out there know of a way to convert Next WriteNow files to WordPerfect IBM PC compatable files. I am looking for software that will do the conversion or if anyone knows of another way please let me know.
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: File Conversion Date: 6 Oct 1997 13:56:27 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <61aqmb$b2p@shelob.afs.com> References: <vmacswain.1.001C72D7@upei.ca> Virginia MacSwain writes > Does any one out there know of a way to convert Next WriteNow files to > WordPerfect IBM PC compatable files. I am looking for software that > will do the conversion or if anyone knows of another way please let me > know. WriteUp 1.2x has an import filter for NeXT WriteNow and an export filter for many different versions of WordPerfect. You may lose some formatting in the process, but you should experience >95% fidelity to the originals. You can check our Web site <http://www.netaxs.com/~afs> for more information, and get back to me for any further questions. Greg
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next Software Question? Date: 6 Oct 1997 15:20:44 GMT Message-ID: <19971006152000.LAA01505@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <MPG.ea1fb93dce68f599896fd@news.supernews.com> Here's a post I made in the Macworld area on AOL. It contains some information on this. The big DTP apps now, which I can think of off the top of my head are/were: DRAWING Adobe Illustrator 3.01 (not sold anymore, may come back in Rhapsody) Altsys Virtuoso 2 (Freehand, not sold anymore) PAGE LAYOUT Pages by Pages (automated page layout--an intelligent MS Publisher. defunct) PasteUp.app (by Anderson Financial Software. This is still being published, and is being readied for Rhapsody) FrameMaker 3 (not available anymore I think) BITMAP EDITING WetPaint (this is available, along with license string from Peak, see below) TIFFany (being sold now, readied for Rhapsody) Hope this helps! William Subj: from Mac and Win to OPENSTEP Date: 97-10-01 11:57:40 EDT From: WillAdams Just thought I'd chip in here that although I purchased a Mac back in 1984 (and others before that), and a succession of other systems since then, I've not found a system as pleasant, consistent or as aesthetically pleasing as NeXTStep, and its successor OPENSTEP. Moreover, it makes the transition really easy by allowing one to directly access both Macintosh and PC format media--no additional software required. There's a package installer which allows applications to be installed and removed without any conflicts, or any difficulties when removing (or archiving) an application. There are emulators available for both PC/Windows (Insignia SoftPC) and Macintosh (ARDI's Executor, www.ardi.com) if one must, but some of the best applications ever are available on NeXTStep. Did I mention that it was beautiful? Here're a couple of web pages to get one started if you're not inclined to wait for Rhapsody. TJL writes: << If you want to see what has been released in the last *month* for NeXTStep, checkout http://www.peak.org/next/new_arrivals/ Then goto http://www.peak.org/next/ and start looking around. Then goto http://www.stepwise.com/ for more information on recent developments. Then goto http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ for a lot of NeXT-related bookmarks as well as the rest of my pages ;-) >> Also, there're a couple of pointers from my web pages, http://members.aol.com/willadams William "NeXTStep is probably the most respected software on the planet." Byte, October 1992
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Cannot compile perl 5.004.03 under NEXTSTEP 3.3 Date: 6 Oct 1997 20:16:04 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <61bgu4$l47@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <61b8ib$f57$2@daily.bbnplanet.com> In article <61b8ib$f57$2@daily.bbnplanet.com> jgloudon@bbn.remove.com (Jason Gloudon) writes: > Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote: > : When compiling perl 5.004.03 under NEXTSTEP I get: > : `sh cflags libperl.a toke.o` toke.c > : CCCMD = cc -DPERL_CORE -c -DUSE_NEXT_CTYPE > : -arch hppa -arch sparc -I/usr/local/include -O > : cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1obj got fatal signal 11 > > This is a gcc bug. Try a newer version of gcc. Perhaps, but I've built perl on nextstep3.3 without ever seeing that problem. A question: are you using the 3.3developer (where NeXT's cc is really gcc-2.5.8)? This compiler should work fine. If not, you may consider downloading and installing the gcc.2.7.2.2 package from peak. However, I should also mention that many (most/all?) signal 11 errors in gcc can be attrbuted to hardware errors, like bad RAM chips. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: jgloudon@bbn.remove.com (Jason Gloudon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.perl.misc Subject: Re: Cannot compile perl 5.004.03 under NEXTSTEP 3.3 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.perl.misc Date: 6 Oct 1997 17:53:15 GMT Organization: GTE Internetworking-Powered by BBN Message-ID: <61b8ib$f57$2@daily.bbnplanet.com> References: <EHMDJp.2t9@RnA.NL> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote: : When compiling perl 5.004.03 under NEXTSTEP I get: : `sh cflags libperl.a toke.o` toke.c : CCCMD = cc -DPERL_CORE -c -DUSE_NEXT_CTYPE -arch m68k -arch i386 : -arch hppa -arch sparc -I/usr/local/include -O : cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1obj got fatal signal 11 This is a gcc bug. Try a newer version of gcc. Jason gloudon
From: agreen@dork.seas.ucla.edu () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I have a turbocolor slab, now what? Date: 6 Oct 1997 21:44:36 GMT Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center Message-ID: <61bm44$mut$2@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> I also posted to c.s.n.marketplace, but I have a turbocolor w/ a 21" monitor, running NS 3.3. I'd like to find out what other OS's I can run on it. Can somebody send me some information on what else is available? Rhapsody? Linux? xBSD? OpenStep? Thanks, Andrew af@c4c.com
From: Jeff Bishop <jbish@SNIPTHISairmail.net> Newsgroups: comp.os.mach,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mklinux on Nextstep/Openstep-for-Mach/Mach 2.5? Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 21:12:21 -0600 Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Message-ID: <163DF635AAA3537A.4A1CAA7053376E7A.DAEDEBDDC7D72534@library-proxy.airnews.net> References: <60c0ud$loo$1@cronkite.cygnus.com> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Mon Oct 6 21:10:32 1997 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm curious if anyone has tried getting mklinux to run as an additional > 'personality' on top of the NeXT Mach kernel? I'll second that motion! Jeff Bishop
From: Brian - Newbie Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newbie Questions (.tar.gz files on NS 3.0) Date: 6 Oct 1997 18:48:46 -0700 Organization: None Message-ID: <61c4du$bhl@drn.zippo.com> Hi! I am new to NeXTStep and have zero UNIX experience. I have a few questions: Can I download from my Win 95 PC and then copy to my NeXTStation? How do I decompress .tar.gz files in NS 3.0? Basically how do I "install" apps that I have downloaded? How do I get a later version of Next Step? How do I setup PPP and a Web Browser? Can I use my US Robotics 56k modem with my NeXT Station? thanks, Brian. ba29@webexpert.net
From: "David Glowacki" <dglow@microsoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: resetting hostname Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:30:24 -0700 Organization: Microsoft Corp. Message-ID: <61ce22$qbk@news.microsoft.com> In a failed effort to configure my cube for use on a network, I've accidentally set an NIS domainname IP, to which the cube is looking to mount an remote file system. Thus I get a repeated "yp: server not responding for domain ..." and I cannot boot completely. Basically, if a kind soul could tell me how to change my hostname at boot, I think I can revert to my old configuration and get things working. I checked NeXTanswers, but to no avail. Any takers? :) Thanks, Dave Glowacki
From: jamaro@home.com (Josue Emmanuel Amaro) Newsgroups: comp.os.mach,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mklinux on Nextstep/Openstep-for-Mach/Mach 2.5? Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 22:21:49 -0700 Organization: @Home Networks Message-ID: <jamaro-0610972221490001@c267632-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com> References: <60c0ud$loo$1@cronkite.cygnus.com> <163DF635AAA3537A.4A1CAA7053376E7A.DAEDEBDDC7D72534@library-proxy.airnews.net> In article <163DF635AAA3537A.4A1CAA7053376E7A.DAEDEBDDC7D72534@library-proxy.airnews.net>, Jeff Bishop <jbish@SNIPTHISairmail.net> wrote: > > I'm curious if anyone has tried getting mklinux to run as an additional > > 'personality' on top of the NeXT Mach kernel? > > I'll second that motion! > > Jeff Bishop It is not posible. NeXT's version is Mach 2.5.X which does not support multiple personalities like mach3 does.(If I remember correctly ). Plus you would not need linux since you already get BSD 4.4. You may have to port some of your linux apps, but most likely that will be very easy. If they move to Mach 3 ( which I really do not think will happen due to commercial reasons, i.e. the code is available in the public domain ) then it would be possible, but then again I will have to wonder why you would want to do it.
From: Norbert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: File Conversion Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 09:19:12 +0200 Organization: European Southern Observatory Message-ID: <3439E270.33A1@eso.org> References: <vmacswain.1.001C72D7@upei.ca> <61aqmb$b2p@shelob.afs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gregory H. Anderson wrote: > > Virginia MacSwain writes > > Does any one out there know of a way to convert Next WriteNow files to > > WordPerfect IBM PC compatable files. I am looking for software that > > will do the conversion or if anyone knows of another way please let me > > know. > > WriteUp 1.2x has an import filter for NeXT WriteNow and an export filter > for many different versions of WordPerfect. You may lose some formatting > in the process, but you should experience >95% fidelity to the originals. > You can check our Web site <http://www.netaxs.com/~afs> for more > information, and get back to me for any further questions. > > Greg Cool, I was excited to be able to find another word processor for OpenStep. I bought OpenWrite but the spell checker is broken and I was looking at getting Cedar... Way too expensive for me... You know, a lot of people need a word processor only once in a while. There is no way for any word processor to be worth $250 to these people... Looks like Cedar has a better deal. Nor
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image conversion from PNG to TIFF? Date: 7 Oct 1997 12:00:50 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <61d89i$8l9$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <612dio$m5j$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In article <612dio$m5j$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk writes: > Does anybody have a free app or code that will convert PNG image format to > TIFF (or anything else)? Thanks. There is the PNG viewer application PingPong.app from Willem van Schaik. Newest version I know of is v 1.28, availabele e.g. from ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/apps/PingPong.1.28.NI.b.tar. gz It allows to save the loaded pic in TIIF format. Furthermore, there are appropriate programs for the PBM suite floating around (pngtopnm, pnmtopng) to convert on command line. Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Universitaet Koblenz, FB Informatik | Fon:+49 261 9119-421 Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany | Fax:+49 261 9119-497 NeXT/MIME/Email: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.Drop_This.de Drop the "Drop_This." part in my Email-address to reply.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Frank Pohl <frank@onevision.de> Subject: Re: Next Software Question? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <343A1E9F.1C2A@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <MPG.ea1fb93dce68f599896fd@news.supernews.com> <19971006152000.LAA01505@ladder02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:35:59 GMT WillAdams wrote: > = > Here's a post I made in the Macworld area on AOL. It contains some info= rmation > on this. > = > The big DTP apps now, which I can think of off the top of my head are/w= ere: > = > DRAWING > Adobe Illustrator 3.01 (not sold anymore, may come back in Rhapsody) > Altsys Virtuoso 2 (Freehand, not sold anymore) > = > PAGE LAYOUT > Pages by Pages (automated page layout--an intelligent MS Publisher. def= unct) > PasteUp.app (by Anderson Financial Software. This is still being publis= hed, and > is being readied for Rhapsody) > FrameMaker 3 (not available anymore I think) > = > BITMAP EDITING > WetPaint (this is available, along with license string from Peak, see b= elow) > TIFFany (being sold now, readied for Rhapsody) > = > Hope this helps! > = > William If you search a professional solution: Try DigiScript. The Seyboldt Report on Publishing Systems write in volume 72, number 1, September 1, 1997: "It will be one of the first available publishing systems that can run on Mac Rhapsody machines when they reach the market:" and now it runs under NextStep and Openstep. It=B4s a sytsme for text, graphic, imag= e and so on ... Available in an english version. More infos: http://www.OneVision.de frank frank.pohl@regensburg.netsurf.de
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newbie Questions (.tar.gz files on NS 3.0) Date: 7 Oct 1997 12:43:33 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <61dapl$bp1$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <61c4du$bhl@drn.zippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ba29@webexpert.net In <61c4du$bhl@drn.zippo.com> Brian - Newbie wrote: > Hi! I am new to NeXTStep and have zero UNIX experience. You have taken the first step into a wider world... > Can I download from my Win 95 PC and then copy to my NeXTStation? The NeXT can read DOS formatted floppies.... or you can connect them > How do I decompress .tar.gz files in NS 3.0? Basically how do I "install" apps > that I have downloaded? 3.0... yuck. Check csn.marketplace to see if you can find 3.2.... it's a lot better. Try downloading this and see if it will work: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/unix/gzip.1.2.3.NI.b.tar.Z when you get it do uncompress gzip.1.2.3.NI.b.tar.Z tar zxf gzip.1.2.3.NI.b.tar using /NextApps/Terminal.app > How do I get a later version of Next Step? See csn.marketplace and see if someone has a version for sale. Unless you want OpenStep and then you contact 1-800-try-next > How do I setup PPP and a Web Browser? With 3.0 it will be hard. If you can get 3.2 it will be easier > Can I use my US Robotics 56k modem with my NeXT Station? Yes. You'll need a special modem cable though (I'm assuming the connector on the 56k modem is the same as a regular modem). See www.orb.com and/or www.deepspacetech.com for the cable, I think they are $25. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff) luomat + pine @ luomat.peak.org (for PINE related stuff)
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.perl.misc Subject: Re: Cannot compile perl 5.004.03 under NEXTSTEP 3.3 Date: 6 Oct 1997 18:03:43 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <61b95v$4vm$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <EHMDJp.2t9@RnA.NL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl In <EHMDJp.2t9@RnA.NL> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote: > When compiling perl 5.004.03 under NEXTSTEP I get: > > `sh cflags libperl.a toke.o` toke.c > CCCMD = cc -DPERL_CORE -c -DUSE_NEXT_CTYPE -arch m68k -arch i386 > -arch hppa -arch sparc -I/usr/local/include -O > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1obj got fatal signal 11 > *** Exit 1 > Stop. > > 1. Does anybody know what this error implies? Yup. You've hit a compiler bug. For some reason toke.c is very good at tickling compiler bugs. > 2. Has anyone succesfully compiled perl 5.004.03 under NEXTSTEP 3.3? Yes, sure. Under NS 3.3 I believe that if you set the optimization on toke.c to zero, you can get that file to compile. You need to edit the file `cflags': ivyhouse:~/c/perl5.004_03:% diff -u cflags.orig cflags --- cflags.orig Mon Oct 6 19:00:05 1997 +++ cflags Mon Oct 6 19:01:25 1997 @@ -84,7 +84,7 @@ scope) ;; sv) ;; taint) ;; - toke) ;; + toke) optimize=-O0 ;; usersub) ;; util) ;; *) ;; There's probably a Configure variable you could set to achieve the same effect, but I never had the time to figure that one out. Matthew [Posted and Mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newbie Questions (.tar.gz files on NS 3.0) Date: 7 Oct 1997 07:43:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <61dhpl$27o@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <61c4du$bhl@drn.zippo.com> <61dapl$bp1$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nospam@all.please In <61dapl$bp1$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > Can I use my US Robotics 56k modem with my NeXT Station? > > Yes. You'll need a special modem cable though (I'm assuming the connector on > the 56k modem is the same as a regular modem). See www.orb.com and/or > www.deepspacetech.com for the cable, I think they are $25. > It's no different than any other standard USR modem for connections, but you may want to look into disabling the X2 feature. My Turbocolor did not do to well with all the data getting pumped into the serial port too quickly, fixing the speed to 28.8 or 33.6 with the PPP setup to do 38k on the ports seems to make mine the most happy. -- //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3D Graphics Packages? Date: 7 Oct 1997 18:07:19 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <61dton$1g3q$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Can anyone recommend a good 3D graphics package for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? I've heard of 3DReality, SolidThinking and Intuitiv3D. Any others? I've briefly looked at these three and they all seem to do most of what I want, except I have a _STRONG_ need for animation capabilities, which only SolidThinking seems to support. Can you do animation in 3DReality or Intuitiv3D with their API? (or more to the point, has anyone already written an API to do it, as I haven't that sort of time right now). Another problem is I don't know if Gestel (SolidThinking) or Cub'x (Intuitiv3D) are even still in the NeXT business or have a Rhapsody plan (I already lost out on my previous $ investment on Tesseract, which was beta and never properly finished :-(. So Stone's 3DReality is a littel more appealing because it has a better chance of making it to Rhapsody. I also checked out Geomview, which is a great app for what it is, but doesn't support the more advanced stuff 3D like texture mapping (did I say I need texture mapping too...) Any thoughts/recommendations? - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu
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From: Paul Heffernan <cedar@cedar.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: File Conversion Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 23:31:51 +0100 Organization: Cedar Systems Limited Distribution: world Message-ID: <2UUaRFAXhrO0EwPz@cedar.co.uk> References: <vmacswain.1.001C72D7@upei.ca> <61aqmb$b2p@shelob.afs.com> <3439E270.33A1@eso.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <3439E270.33A1@eso.org>, Norbert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org> writes > Cool, I was excited to be able to find another word processor for >OpenStep. I bought OpenWrite but the spell checker is broken and I was >looking at getting Cedar... > Way too expensive for me... You know, a lot of people need a word >processor only once in a while. There is no way for any word processor >to be worth $250 to these people... > Looks like Cedar has a better deal. > > > Nor Just to clarify - a CedarWord license is 30 pounds sterling (about US$50). A free demo is downloadable from our web site listed below. Please email us for a free trial license code to provide unrestricted access for 30 days. Regards, Jonathan Phelps. Cedar Systems Limited 2440 The Quadrant, Aztec West, Bristol, BS12 4AQ, England email:phef@cedar.co.uk http://www.cedar.co.uk tel:+44 1454 878708 fax:+44 1454 878608
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From: defaultuser <defaultuser@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: File and printer sharing with Linux and Windows NT using SAMBA Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 17:11:46 -0700 Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <343ACFC2.56C91B7F@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our lab has Linux, Windows NT, and NeXTstep systems. I would like to be able to share files and printers between all of them using the NeXTstep system as the server. I am considering SAMBA. Please tell me how I would go about installing SAMBA on NeXTstep. If there is a better alternative, please recommend one. Edwin Choi edwinc@uclink4.berkeley.edu
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next Software Question? Date: 8 Oct 1997 01:26:52 GMT Message-ID: <19971008012600.VAA09700@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <343A1E9F.1C2A@onevision.de> Oh yes, sorry about that. OneVision kind of fell off my radar scope as it were when I found out it needs 64MB of memory. I'm still saving, and have managed to scrape up to 32MB. There's a book about OneVision (saw a mention of it at www.amazon.com) which has a demo version. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: william semonis<semonis@servcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IT'S YOUR HEALTH Date: 8 Oct 97 05:17:49 GMT Organization: IT'S YOUR HEALTH Message-ID: <343b177d.1@aries.servcom.com> I have been taking herbs and my health has greatly improved over 2 yrs and I'm in a company called shaperite the best of the best herbs you can join the company for $9.95. You will receive free voice mail so you can talk to me by leaving me messages? also you will benefit from these fantastic herbal formulas like Idid. You can start a business if you wanted to but most all it's your health? Leave your name,address and phone for information pack. William Semonis
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <343b177d.1@aries.servcom.com> Control: cancel <343b177d.1@aries.servcom.com> Date: 08 Oct 1997 06:00:37 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.343b177d.1@aries.servcom.com> Sender: william semonis<semonis@servcom.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next Software Question? Date: 8 Oct 1997 07:10:57 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <61fbm1$9ou$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <343A1E9F.1C2A@onevision.de> <19971008012600.VAA09700@ladder02.news.aol.com> willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) wrote: > OneVision kind of fell off my radar scope as it were when I found out it needs > 64MB of memory. I'm still saving, and have managed to scrape up to 32MB. Considering how cheap standard RAM is nowadays ($92-$96 for a 32 MB 60ns EDO SIMM from Einstein's, Chip Merchant or Atipa), adding memory is usually the single most cost-effective, performance-enhancing thing you can do for your system. I highly recommend at least 64 MB, and preferably 96 - 128 MB (more if you're an extremely demanding user). NeXTstep does take advantage of the memory - it translates to little (or no) swapping, and the improvement in normal usability is very significant. I'd love to play with OneVision, but unfortunately have no justification based on the cost - it would just be a toy for me, because my actual needs are so simple. But for someone who actually needs such a product, I think the RAM requirements are insignificant - if you're working with large, especially graphically intensive documents (which it's my impression fits into the usage patterns of people who need this kind of tool), you should have more RAM than that anyway - the fastest system is going to be severely hampered by lack of RAM. (Not to knock Will - I'm assuming that he simply can't justify the cost himself. I just wanted to make the point on how important - and relatively cheap - RAM is nowadays.) -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: "Torrance Weaver" <trentweb@bendnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Original black hardware specs Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 03:45:02 +0000 Organization: Webtronix Message-ID: <61icj4$mn9$1@news.rain.net> References: <01bcce2b$d7fc8f20$6cd1ce80@becky-ii> <34355701.1F81@sfaids.ucsf.edu> <MPG.ea1fadb586d68969896fc@news.supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <MPG.ea1fadb586d68969896fc@news.supernews.com>, none@calweb.com (Alex) wrote: In article <34355701.1F81@sfaids.ucsf.edu>, tdrolson@sfaids.ucsf.edu says... > Find the book "The NeXT Bible," it's in more libraries than you'd > think. It details the original Cube (was written before 1.0 release, > I think) in great detail and describes the software available and > gives an into to UNIX in general. NeXT also published a library of > books, but they're not so readily available, except for a really > good technical bookstore. I've been looking. > Try Powell's bookstore in Portland Oregon. They have to be one of the most fabulous book stores on earth. They stock just about one of everything. (New or used.) At one time I lived in the area, and a trip to Powells was like going on a treasure hunt. The "store" is several stories tall, and takes up over an entire city block. They have also expanded out into satellite locations, because one building couldn't hold it all. At one time they had a web site. Don't know if they currently do. _________ _____________ ___________ Let me help you out on Powells. But the website can't do it justice. Go see it. I searched powells.com a couple weeks ago, and not only found the desired title, but quantity, condition, and availability on audiotape! On weekend trips to Portland, Powell's is our must stop, and Suriya's Thai is two blocks away -- a chance to peruse the treasures of the hunt with a great meal. I've never spent less than two hours in the store... I have been told that Powells is now the biggest in the country, if not the world. Powell's Technical Bookstore is a couple blocks east, and its phone number is: 1-800-225-6911 fax:503-228-0505 Nearby, the charming Mallory Hotel (circa 1920) makes for a complete adventure, as far as I'm concerned. Try the German pancakes, but bring your own real maple syrup. ciao trento
From: David Fekke <dfekke@mailer.packet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mac user (loser) wants to learn BSD 4.4 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 13:45:34 -0400 Organization: Impact Message-ID: <343BC6B3.AEA8A1D2@mailer.packet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been reading the news on Rhapsody as it becomes available. One of the things I keep on hearing about is BSD 4.4 being part of the new OS. Being a curious person like I am, I want to find out as much about BSD 4.4 as I can before the Premiere release comes out next year. Could someone point me in the direction of some URL that describe how to use the Unix command line in BSD 4.4.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: Next Software Question? Message-ID: <EHs1Ln.vr@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <19971008012600.VAA09700@ladder02.news.aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:12:59 GMT In article <19971008012600.VAA09700@ladder02.news.aol.com> willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) writes: > Oh yes, sorry about that. > > OneVision kind of fell off my radar scope as it were when I found out it needs > 64MB of memory. I'm still saving, and have managed to scrape up to 32MB. > > There's a book about OneVision (saw a mention of it at www.amazon.com) which > has a demo version. > Hi William, you can run DigiScript ( as the software is called now) run with 32 Meg. Actually we run ( or walked?) in 8 MB on a station in the old days. 64 Meg just gives you more speed! Most of our customers do very high end work and need FAST systems ( that means 128 Mb and a PPro) but with current HW 32 gives a nice system. The book includes Version 3 of DigiScript, contact OneVision for a 3.5 CD. ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
From: ptf@earthlink.com (Pat Finnigan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MIDI HW/SW quest Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 16:54:30 -0600 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <ptf-0810971654300001@1cust85.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net> NeXTers: I'm looking for sources for sequencing software for the NeXT platform. I cannot find ANYTHING out there. Are there any commercially available packages? And are there any MIDI interfaces for the NeXT serial (mini din 8) ports? Any/all help would be gratefully appreciated. 8v) patf newbie NeXTer
MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MIDI HW/SW quest References: <ptf-0810971654300001@1cust85.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net> From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <343c1516.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 8 Oct 97 23:19:50 GMT ptf@earthlink.com (Pat Finnigan) wrote: > NeXTers: > I'm looking for sources for sequencing software for the NeXT > platform. I cannot find ANYTHING out there. Are there any > commercially available packages? > And are there any MIDI interfaces for the NeXT serial (mini din > 8) ports? Any/all help would be gratefully appreciated. 8v) patf > newbie NeXTer Well, try ccrma for starters at: ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/NeXT I'm sure they have a web site too... Also, there is a neet app on the archives by the name of MMP. Below is the info file from it....it lets you play all of those cool .mp3 files (that are likely huge copyright violations...but I digress :). (Oh and please don't ask me where to get MMP, because I have no idea where i got it from ): Minimal Media Player plays MOD, MPEG I Layer 1,2,3, MIDI and plain 'snd' format audio files in real time. MPEG and MIDI only if you have a fast machine. Please read the useage guidelines as written below in BIG letters such as IF YOU LIKE IT FEEL FREE TO SEND ME A BOTTLE OF SCOTCH WHISKY! :-) MMP does not use the synthesizer on the audio card, all sound rendering is done by MMP or its helper programs and the precalculated digital audio stream is then send to the audio card. The 'snd' interface uses a different approach then the NeXT build in sndplay programs, it is able to play sounds of arbitrary length. Just drag a file to the control window to play it -mod files must have the postfix '.mod' -mpeg files must have the postfix '.mp1', '.mp2' or '.mp3' -midi files must have the postfix '.mid' or '.midi' -snd files must have the postfix '.snd' Please note that this program uses code from several public available packages or the packages itself and is subject to certain restrictions: MOD playing is done by using the code from tracker 4.3, Copyright (c) by Mark Espie. You can get the source from http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/espie/amiga.html „ MIDI rendering is done by timidity Version 0.2i Copyright (C) 1995 Tuukka Toivonen <toivonen@clinet.fi>. Its source can be found here: http://www.clinet.fi/~toivonen/timidity/ „ MPEG audio decoding by mpg123 written/modfied by: Michael Hipp (email: Michael.Hipp@student.uni-tuebingen.de) Philipp Knirsch (email: phil@mpik-tueb.mpg.de) You may get the original LINUX source from http://www.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de/~hipp/mpg123.html „ NeXT frontend partly Copyright (c) by Frank Siegert 1997 (email: frank@this.net, http://www.this.net/~frank/) „ Lyra image taken from the next-icon@gun.com Icon collection from the internet as available on the ftp archive peanuts.leo.org and the Big Green CD. „ Installation: Copy MMP.app to your /LocalApps or ~App directory. To get MIDI up and running you'll need the Midi patch files. Since this is quite a lot data (8 MByte compressed) it is not included in the distribution. Please look on the timidity page for it. You'll need to copy the uncompressed patches (!) to the patch directory in the App wrapper, and update your timidity.cfg (also in the app wrapper) file to reflect the settings. A full featured patch set is available at ftp://archive.cs.umbc.edu/pub/midia/instruments.tar.gz unpack it to MMP.app/patch and up you go. Planned inprovements - Playing from an URL - RealAudio support (if the format ever gets documented) - More sound formats ('wav' with ADPCM support) Troubleshooting: Some debugging output is still going to console, so you can see what this program is doing. If you experience buffer underruns (sound drops) try to switch off stereo. If you experience distorted sound output on 44.1 kHz, stop the play and restart. This will normalize the play thread. At the moment mpeg output is always set to 44.1kHz (no 48 kHz yet). So you will hear 48kHz mpeg sounds a bit slower then normal. If the MPEG routines encounters corrupted data the program is exited at once. THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL PRODUCT NOR SHOULD IT BE USED OR NAMED AS SUCH. THE TITLE 'MMP' IS ONLY USED FOR IDENTIFICATION PURPOSES. THIS APPLICATION MAY NOT BE SOLD OR OTHERWISE GIVEN AWAY FOR MONEY. IT MAY NOT BE INCLUDED IN A COMMERCIAL PRODUCT. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE IT IN A COMMERCIAL ENVIRONMENT OR FOR ANY PURPOSE YOU'LL GET PAID FOR. ONLY PRIVATE USE OR FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES IS ACCEPTABLE. IT MAY NOT BE MOVED ON A PUBLIC CDROM COLLECTION WITHOUT THE WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE AUTOR. WARNING: THIS IS A HACK. YOU ARE WORKING AT YOUR OWN RISK. IF THIS PROGRAM BURNS YOUR HARDDISK, COMPUTER, SPEAKERS, CAT, HOUSE OR CAR (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO) YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO GIVE THE BLAME. IF YOU LIKE IT FEEL FREE TO SEND ME A BOTTLE OF SCOTCH WHISKY! ALL TRADEMARKS IN THIS TEXT AND PROGRAM ARE ONLY USED FOR IDENTIFICATION PURPOSE. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
From: Bootney Lee Farnsworth <gansen@arthur.avalon.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Desktop pattern software? Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 18:31:57 -0500 Organization: Avalon Networks Inc. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.971008183017.2139A-100000@arthur.avalon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am in search of software that will display an image as the desktop pattern. Does anyone know of such a program? I am aware that BackSpace can be used for this so maybe there's a module for it? --Chris _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Gansen gansen@avalon.net http://www.avalon.net/~gansen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OPENSTEP & Epson Stylus COLOR 800 From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <343c1d4c.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 8 Oct 97 23:54:52 GMT Hi, does ANYONE out there have an Epson Stylus _COLOR_ 800 working with OPENSTEP/NEXTSTEP? JetPilot2.3 seems to almost work, but not quite :( Dot3.6 doesnt seem to work at all. I can't find GSCorp's newest version of eXTRAPRINT to try (the newest version I see on the archives is 1.0, and the newest version I know of is 2.1). I believe Ghostscript works with the monochrome Epson Stylus 800...does anyone know if there is something that supports the new Epson Stylus COLOR 800? Actually, where can I find a NEXT/OPENSTEP version of Ghostscript? I looked on the archives but wasn't sure what is what..... Oh, and while I'm at it, does anyone have a PPD file for the new COLOR 800? Something supporting the new 1440X720dpi mode? I looked at the adobe site but didn't find anything: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/printerdrivers/ Thanks for any help! -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
From: jalex@earthling.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Date: 9 Oct 1997 19:18:43 -0400 Organization: Mail to Usenet Gateway Message-ID: <199710091217.HAA29078@atlas.host4u.net> To: comp.sys.next.software@myriad.alias.net - jalex@earthling.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Maple for NeXT? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EHsw96.EB7@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 20:15:06 GMT References: <61irph$3ga$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <61irph$3ga$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Randall W. Jackson <randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu> wrote: >Is there a version of Maple for NeXT3.3 or OS4.2? > Yep, Maple V Release 3. The folks at Maplesoft will gladly sell it to you. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.os.mach,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mklinux on Nextstep/Openstep-for-Mach/Mach 2.5? Date: 9 Oct 1997 20:28:14 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <61jeou$etq$2@cronkite.cygnus.com> References: <60c0ud$loo$1@cronkite.cygnus.com> <163DF635AAA3537A.4A1CAA7053376E7A.DAEDEBDDC7D72534@library-proxy.airnews.net> <jamaro-0610972221490001@c267632-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jamaro@home.com In <jamaro-0610972221490001@c267632-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com> Josue Emmanuel Amaro wrote: > In article > <163DF635AAA3537A.4A1CAA7053376E7A.DAEDEBDDC7D72534@library-proxy.airnews.net>, > Jeff Bishop <jbish@SNIPTHISairmail.net> wrote: > > > > I'm curious if anyone has tried getting mklinux to run as an additional > > > 'personality' on top of the NeXT Mach kernel? > > > > I'll second that motion! > > > > Jeff Bishop > > It is not posible. NeXT's version is Mach 2.5.X which does not support > multiple personalities like mach3 does.(If I remember correctly ). Someone else posting around here (from NeXT I think) said the opposite. That since one of the enhancements that NeXT did make to 2.x was the addition of loadable kernel modules, you could in fact load in alternate OS servers/pagers. > Plus > you would not need linux since you already get BSD 4.4. You may have to > port some of your linux apps, but most likely that will be very easy. > That's a great attitude for developers. It is not a great attitude for users. I think it'd be nice to have a package that transparently gives users the ability to run Linux apps (like the applixware stuff). There is a way that Utah-lites does this from BSD 4.4, and it might be easier to use its thunking engine for that, but I'm trying to find the _best_ solution, not the easiest one. (yes, I realize I also have to come up with an X server) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Thought for the day: According to the supreme court, proof of innocence isn't enough to avoid execution if you've exhausted your appeals.
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.perl.misc Subject: Re: Result: Cannot compile perl 5.004.03 under NEXTSTEP 3.3 Date: 10 Oct 1997 15:00:57 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Oct10100055@slave.doubleu.com> References: <EHMDJp.2t9@RnA.NL> <61b95v$4vm$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <EHstrx.1sB@RnA.NL> In-reply-to: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl's message of Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:21:33 GMT In article <EHstrx.1sB@RnA.NL> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl writes: I would like a new cc (this is gcc 2.5.8), but as far as I know, when I install a newer gcc, I lose the possibility to make fat binaries, and that is not acceptable. You can use a newer gcc to create thin binaries - which, since they are assembled by NeXT's as, are Mach-O thin binaries, you can then lipo together to make a fat binary. I guess then the problem becomes whether you can build a gcc cross-compiler for sparc/hppa on NeXTSTEP. Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@ti.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Blue Sky PS Fonts and TeX Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:08:28 -0500 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Message-ID: <343E44EC.A31CDC3C@ti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all! I have installed the Blue Sky postscript fonts on my system. Further, I have modified DVIPS to embed these fonts into any PS file it generates. The results are great! The PS files (though large) print beautifully and, better yet, they distill to PDF beautifully (using the Adobe distiller on a Sun). The problem I have is that my NeXT system is not using the fonts quite properly. If I LaTeX a document, copy the DVI file to a SUN, and then use XDVI to preview the document, it looks great! However, if I use the teTeX modified TeXViewer.app (ksepath version 2.5) the documents don't look all that great. I know that it is finding the fonts because the console flashes up each font file as it loads. However, the image, while quite readable, is not identical to the real McCoy. The most notable thing is that some words are not boldfaced as they should be. The same problem exists if I convert the file to PS using DVIPS. Opening the PS Previewer.app shows the file but it doesn't look quite right. However, printing it on a PS printer does work. Since the file prints right and displays correctly on a different system, I suspect that the fonts are OK but my system is not working quite right. Just to be safe, I did re-download the Blue Sky fonts and reinstall them. No change. Any thoughts as to why this happens? TIA for any info! - Steve
From: Stefan Monnier <monnier+comp/os/mach/news/@tequila.cs.yale.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.mach,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mklinux on Nextstep/Openstep-for-Mach/Mach 2.5? Date: 09 Oct 1997 22:53:05 -0400 Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Sender: monnier@tequila.systemsz.cs.yale.edu Message-ID: <5lk9fme3ce.fsf@tequila.systemsz.cs.yale.edu> References: <60c0ud$loo$1@cronkite.cygnus.com> <163DF635AAA3537A.4A1CAA7053376E7A.DAEDEBDDC7D72534@library-proxy.airnews.net> <jamaro-0610972221490001@c267632-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com> jamaro@home.com (Josue Emmanuel Amaro) writes: > multiple personalities like mach3 does.(If I remember correctly ). Plus > you would not need linux since you already get BSD 4.4. You may have to > port some of your linux apps, but most likely that will be very easy. Do you think writing Linux was easy ? BSD-4.4 existed way before Linux and people could have simply used FreeBSD instead of working hard on that new Linux thingie. But no: why make it simple? Stefan
From: "Patrick McGowan" <patmvcr@rogers.wave.ca> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: PCI devices not seen by NS3.3 Date: 10 Oct 1997 19:18:12 GMT Organization: INCO Exploration Message-ID: <01bcd5b1$6ec71600$7c327118@patmvcr.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca> I have had NS3.3 running on my old desktop for a couple of years now. It co-exists with Win95. A month ago, I went online with a cable modem which connects to the machine via a PCI SMC card (EtherPower). The TCP/IP works fine in Win95, but I would like to get it up in NS3.3. Problem is, NS3.3 does not recognize the SMC card in the PCI slot. I also have a SCSI card (SymbiosLogic(NCR)810 based) in another PCI slot which is not recognized. The PCI ATI video works fine of course. All of these PCI devices are autosensed and work fine in Win95...why does NS3.3 only see the ATI PCI video card? Motherboard: "GIGABYTE GA-586AP"..90MHz Pentium BIOS: AwardModular 4.50G......ALI M1451B PCI-ISA v1.62 Network Card: SMC EtherPower SCSI card: NCR810 Patrick McGowan patmvcr@ibm.net
From: bhi1@ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I have a turbocolor slab, now what? Date: 10 Oct 1997 06:55:06 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <61kjga$cq5@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> References: <61bm44$mut$2@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> In-Reply-To: <61bm44$mut$2@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> Hello Andrew: You may have an interest in upgrading to Openstep 4.2 and using Cub X to run X Windows Applications. I also have a product called DayDream that turns it into a Mac running system 7.1 , Emulators like Executor and Soft PC Windows 3.11 / Dos 5.0 for NeXT workstations are also available. Check out http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ and ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/ These won't work...Rhapsody? Linux? xBSD? Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993. On 10/06/97, wrote: > >I also posted to c.s.n.marketplace, but I have a turbocolor w/ a 21" >monitor, running NS 3.3. I'd like to find out what other OS's I >can run on it. Can somebody send me some information on what >else is available? Rhapsody? Linux? xBSD? OpenStep? > >Thanks, >Andrew >af@c4c.com > -- Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
From: John Fosselman <knet@ic.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 00:31:26 -0400 Organization: KnowledgeNet, Inc. Message-ID: <343DAF9E.D2D5FD62@ic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try this newsgroup. comp.sys.next.software
From: Zeph Campbell <zephc@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I want an OpenStep CD Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 22:39:19 -0700 Organization: Internet Presence Providers Message-ID: <343DBF87.865C8726@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anyone has the latest version of OpenStep-for-Mach on Intel, please mail me
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MIDI HW/SW quest Date: 10 Oct 1997 21:55:35 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <61m88n$jgb$1@news.seicom.net> References: <ptf-0810971654300001@1cust85.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net> <343c1516.0@206.25.228.5> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: jkheit@xtdl.com In <343c1516.0@206.25.228.5> John Kheit wrote: > (Oh and please don't ask me where to get MMP, because I have no > idea where i got it from ): I admit I have written it, so you got it most likely from Area 51 or some archive. :-) See http://www.this.net/~frank/ in the Download Area. Holy Cow, nobody ever sent me a bottle of scotch for this particular program, so it can't be that good :*) -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: spamcancel@wupper.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <61kuiv$ren$61@PaperBoy.livenet.net> Control: cancel <61kuiv$ren$61@PaperBoy.livenet.net> Date: 10 Oct 1997 10:45:57 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.61kuiv$ren$61@PaperBoy.livenet.net> Sender: paoiureopu@potwou.com Excessive Multi-Posted spam article exceeding a BI of 20 cancelled by spamcancel@wupper.com. From was: paoiureopu@potwou.com Subject was: Cheerleaders are soo beautiful..! NNTP-Posting-Host was: dialup13.ds1.livenet.net
From: Jay <nin@goodnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Reinstalling OS Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:57:31 -0700 Organization: GoodNet Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971011115242.16088A-100000@goodguy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using a NeXTstation Color (original NeXT hardware). I just purchased it from a friend of mine..however, the system integrity leaves a bit to be desired. There is 'junk' all over the hard drive (only 240 MB) and some of the apps don't work (corrupt, etc...). I would like to wipe the hard drive clean, and just re-install the OS (I have NeXTStep 3.2 CD) but I have no clue how to do this. I have set up many Linux workstations and other *nix's, but this is my first time working with NeXTStep. I can't even find any boot disks anywhere. Can anyone help me out? ~Jay .................................... . Jay Jacobson . . Network Engineer, ISP . . GoodNet Administration . . 602.303.9500 ext. 3321 . .pop@goodnet.com telco@goodnet.com. .................................... . nin@goodnet.com j@goodnet.com . . http://www.goodnet.com/~nin . ....................................
From: larryb2847@aol.com (LarryB2847) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help getting Prelude Openstep running? Date: 13 Oct 1997 06:34:30 GMT Message-ID: <19971013063401.CAA25516@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Ok, I was trying to get the NT/95 version of OpenStep Enterprise running on my Intel 486 runnning W95 (SR2). Everything installed OK, the 4 daemons all started, but everything except the BourneShell app just crash with a fault in kernel32.dll. Specifically, the PBS app crashes first then the kernel crash in W95. I can't even get project builder to live past it's splash box, it pops up and then it barfs. Everything else just churns the disk for a while, then it explodes, always in the same place. That includes the examples and everything. So, what the heck is going on? The 486 is otherwise reliable in W95 and running nicely. please send email to: larrysb (at) aol . com please don't reply to this address as it does not accept email.
From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenWrite Conversion Filters Date: 12 Oct 1997 12:47:28 GMT Organization: Personal Message-ID: <61qgt0$40f@rumah.pc.my> Does anyone have the OpenWrite file conversion filters for Word for Windows, and WordPerfect 6 that they could NextMail to me? I don't want to d/l the whole package for just these. I am assuming that its possible to install them independently & also assuming that they are not too huge to mail. Thanks, Mike
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Reinstalling OS Followup-To: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 13 Oct 1997 12:33:02 GMT Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany Message-ID: <61t4du$gja1@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971011115242.16088A-100000@goodguy> Jay (nin@goodnet.com) wrote: : : I am using a NeXTstation Color (original NeXT hardware). I just purchased : it from a friend of mine..however, the system integrity leaves a bit to be : desired. There is 'junk' all over the hard drive (only 240 MB) and some : of the apps don't work (corrupt, etc...). I would like to wipe the hard : drive clean, and just re-install the OS (I have NeXTStep 3.2 CD) but I : have no clue how to do this. I have set up many Linux workstations and : other *nix's, but this is my first time working with NeXTStep. I can't : even find any boot disks anywhere. Can anyone help me out? Depends on how 'deep' you want to rearrange things. If you are not satisfied with the physical(!) condition of your disk you have to low-level-SCSI-re- format it. This should be done on hardware that has an OS running! If you don't need this step, then, if you're lucky - depending on fabrication date of you machine - you should give your CD-Drive some low SCSI-ID number (most used: 0 for CD, 1 for disk), because booting on the NeXT is only supported from devices 0 or 1 (without manual intervention). If you are willing to type, then the ID's don't matter, except that the disk ID should be lower than the CD-ID (as it has to be for allday use anyhow). In this case, once the machine tries to boot up graphically, enter the prom-monitor (pressing both alternate-keys and the top-leftmost one on the keypad at the same time). Now you can enter the bootcommand (try '?' for help). Let's assume that your Disk-SCSI-ID is 1, the CD's ID is 5 (e.g.). Then the devices are sd0 (for the disk) and sd1 (for the CD-drive). Now a bsd(1,0,0) should boot from the CD offering to install the system. I think, the first parameter (here the '1') is the controller number, if it doesn't work, maybe I'm wrong and you have to try the actual SCSI-ID (haven't done this for some time), so this would be: bsd(5,0,0) If this doesn't work either, you need(!) a bootfloppy, try the NeXTanswers help system for it. There is 3.3 but if there still is a 3.2 bootfloppy-image, I don't know. Look for it there. If there's the image, there is also the description for how to get the image on the disk. The command would the be: bfd and it should be simple from there. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: michael@nexus1.oche.de.NOSPAM (Michael Pieper, remove '.NOSPAM' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PCI devices not seen by NS3.3 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 12 Oct 1997 20:24:55 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <61rbmn$rdh$3@nexusgate.oche.de> References: <01bcd5b1$6ec71600$7c327118@patmvcr.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca> "Patrick McGowan" <patmvcr@rogers.wave.ca> wrote: >I have had NS3.3 running on my old desktop for a couple of years now. It >co-exists with Win95. A month ago, I went online with a cable modem which >connects to the machine via a PCI SMC card (EtherPower). The TCP/IP works >fine in Win95, but I would like to get it up in NS3.3. Problem is, NS3.3 >does not recognize the SMC card in the PCI slot. I also have a SCSI card >(SymbiosLogic(NCR)810 based) in another PCI slot which is not recognized. >The PCI ATI video works fine of course. All of these PCI devices are >autosensed and work fine in Win95...why does NS3.3 only see the ATI PCI >video card? > >Motherboard: "GIGABYTE GA-586AP"..90MHz Pentium >BIOS: AwardModular 4.50G......ALI M1451B PCI-ISA v1.62 >Network Card: SMC EtherPower >SCSI card: NCR810 > >Patrick McGowan >patmvcr@ibm.net Please, don't crosspost to several next groups (Followup-To c.s.n.h). Did you install any drivers for your PCI cards? At least the NCR810 should work with NS 3.3 with a driver supplied in NeXTAnswers. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael @ nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PostScript Distiller for NeXTStep pre 3.3 Date: 13 Oct 1997 14:34:30 GMT Message-ID: <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Okay, PStill.app won't work save for 3.3 or later, now I see that White Lightning (public beta just announced in comp.sys.next.announce) won't work for less than 3.3 either. What gives? Unfortunately, at this time, I'm stuck at 3.1 on my Cube, until I can manage to get OPENSTEP 4.2 installed on my ThinkPad (anyone in Virginia and have an Adaptec SlimSCSI card I could drop by and use? Will work out trade for graphic design of custom font creation) Why is it that NS 3.2 or 3.1 can't support this sort of application? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: hal@sims.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Blue Sky PS Fonts and TeX Date: 13 Oct 1997 17:01:37 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <61tk5h$h3j$1@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <343E44EC.A31CDC3C@ti.com> In article <343E44EC.A31CDC3C@ti.com> "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@ti.com> writes: > I have installed the Blue Sky postscript fonts on my system. Further, I > have modified DVIPS to embed these fonts into any PS file it generates. > The results are great! The PS files (though large) print beautifully > and, better yet, they distill to PDF beautifully (using the Adobe > distiller on a Sun). One suggestion: look at PStill http://www.noir.net/frank/pstill.html which allows you to distill right on your NeXT. Works great with the CM Blue Sky fonts. > The problem I have is that my NeXT system is not using the fonts quite > properly. If I LaTeX a document, copy the DVI file to a SUN, and then > use XDVI to preview the document, it looks great! However, if I use the > teTeX modified TeXViewer.app (ksepath version 2.5) the documents don't > look all that great. I know that it is finding the fonts because the > console flashes up each font file as it loads. However, the image, > while quite readable, is not identical to the real McCoy. The most > notable thing is that some words are not boldfaced as they should be. I've noticed the same thing. Here's conjecture: the CM fonts are notoriously thin, and don't display well on low res devices. The bitmapped fonts correct for this; the PostScript fonts don't. If you use palatino.sty or times.sty you won't have this problem. You'll get Adobe PostScript fonts for the text and CM for the math. -- Hal Varian, Dean voice: 510-642-9980 SIMS, 102 South Hall fax: 510-642-5814 University of California hal@sims.berkeley.edu Berkeley, CA 94720-4600 http://www.sims.berkeley.edu/~hal
From: e-glide@interport.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: POPMail client for NeXT? Date: 13 Oct 1997 13:27:18 -0400 Organization: Interport Communications Corp. Message-ID: <61tllm$s6k$1@interport.net> hi. Does anyone know of a bidirectional POPMail program for NeXTstep? I have one that retrieves mail only, but I need it to send as well. thanks in advance, e-glide@interport.net
From: David Randall <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with mail return address Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:28:55 -0600 Organization: RR Message-ID: <34425A57.5253@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am running OpenStep Solaris on this machine (redfish) and another (bluefish). On redfish, my return address in email works ok, but on bluefish the domain info is missing. I have not been able to figure out how to fix this. Can anyone help?
From: nospam@ried_at_mpip-mainz.mpg.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: POPMail client for NeXT? Date: 13 Oct 1997 17:53:40 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <61tn74$43c$2@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> References: <61tllm$s6k$1@interport.net> e-glide@interport.net wrote: > hi. > Does anyone know of a bidirectional POPMail program for NeXTstep? I have one that retrieves mail only, but I need it to send as well. PopOver and Mail.app ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps/PopOver.1.5.NIHS.bd .tar.gz gruss stefan -- _____________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G.\ |E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME/NeXT welcome) | |Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 __/___/ | |Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| |WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried \_/ \_/| | There are only three types of computer users: | | Those that use NeXTs. Those that wished they used NeXTs. | | Those that don't know what they are missing. | \_____________________________________________________________________/
From: Alex King <king@cube.phy.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Word wrapping Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:59:17 -0500 Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971013125543.16311A-100000@cube.phy.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know of a good way to force word wrapping in NeXT apps like Edit and TexEdit? I've been switching between TeXEdit on my NeXT cube and Alpha/Oztex on my Mac. TeXEdit completely ignores word wrapping, thus making it a pain to then edit the files on the Mac. Thanks bak "I hate broccoli, and yet, in a certain sense...I am broccoli" -The Tick -------------------------------------------------------------- |************************|***********************************| |B. Alex King III |University of Illinois at Chicago | |email: aking@uic.edu |Department of Physics | |************************|***********************************| --------------------------------------------------------------
From: student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter Burka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: File Conversion Date: 3 Oct 1997 13:30:57 GMT Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, PEI Canada Message-ID: <612s2h$ou8@atlas.cs.upei.ca> Keywords: WriteNow Does anyone know of a way to convert WriteNow files to IBM PC compatable files (software or other) Please respond to vmacswain@upei.ca Thanks
From: Mike Doyle<a3telecom@answerme.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Question Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:10:17 GMT Organization: Telecom Message-ID: <61to69$ae5346@beta.airnet.net> What is this NewsGroup for? http://www.freeyellow.com/members/a1telecom
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PostScript Distiller for NeXTStep pre 3.3 Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:44:04 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <61tq5k$3l$1@news.seicom.net> References: <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > Okay, PStill.app won't work save for 3.3 or later, now I see that White > Lightning (public beta just announced in comp.sys.next.announce) won't work > for less than 3.3 either. What gives? > Unfortunately, at this time, I'm stuck at 3.1 on my Cube, until I can manage to > get OPENSTEP 4.2 installed on my ThinkPad (anyone in Virginia and have an > Adaptec SlimSCSI card I could drop by and use? Will work out trade for graphic > design of custom font creation) > Why is it that NS 3.2 or 3.1 can't support this sort of application? Frankly I do not know what causes PStill to fail on 3.x [x=0,1,2] systems. Could you describe your symptoms? Since PStill does not use DPS at all the cause should be trivial to resolve if known. You can find a m68k-thin-only binary here, just test it on 3.1 or 3.2 m68k NeXT, maybe it works: http://www.this.net/~frank/PStill.1.10g.N.b.tar.gz -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PostScript Distiller for NeXTStep pre 3.3 Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:45:19 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <61tq7v$4b$1@news.seicom.net> References: <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > Okay, PStill.app won't work save for 3.3 or later, now I see that White > Lightning (public beta just announced in comp.sys.next.announce) won't work > for less than 3.3 either. What gives? > ... > Why is it that NS 3.2 or 3.1 can't support this sort of application? Frankly I do not know what causes PStill to fail on 3.x [x=0,1,2] systems. Could you describe your symptoms? Since PStill does not use DPS at all the cause should be trivial to resolve if known. You can find a m68k-thin-only binary here, just test it on 3.1 or 3.2 m68k NeXT, maybe it works: http://www.this.net/~frank/PStill.1.10g.N.b.tar.gz -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PostScript Distiller for NeXTStep pre 3.3 Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:47:39 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <61tqcb$dq$1@news.seicom.net> References: <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > Okay, PStill.app won't work save for 3.3 or later, now I see that White > Lightning (public beta just announced in comp.sys.next.announce) won't work > for less than 3.3 either. What gives? > ... > Why is it that NS 3.2 or 3.1 can't support this sort of application? Frankly I do not know what causes PStill to fail on 3.x [x=0,1,2] systems. Could you describe your symptoms? Since PStill does not use DPS at all the cause should be trivial to resolve if known. You can find a m68k-thin-only binary here, just test it on 3.1 or 3.2 m68k NeXT, maybe it works: http://www.this.net/~frank/PStill.1.10g.N.b.tar.gz -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PostScript Distiller for NeXTStep pre 3.3 Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:51:24 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <61tqjc$oc$1@news.seicom.net> References: <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > Okay, PStill.app won't work save for 3.3 or later, now I see that White > Lightning (public beta just announced in comp.sys.next.announce) won't work > for less than 3.3 either. What gives? Frankly I do not know what causes PStill to fail on 3.x [x=0,1,2] systems. Could you describe your symptoms? Since PStill does not use DPS at all the cause should be trivial to resolve if known. You can find a m68k-thin-only binary here, just test it on 3.1 or 3.2 m68k NeXT, maybe it works: http://www.this.net/~frank/PStill.1.10g.N.b.tar.gz -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PostScript Distiller for NeXTStep pre 3.3 Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:40:20 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <61tpuk$pb5$1@news.seicom.net> References: <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > Okay, PStill.app won't work save for 3.3 or later, now I see that White > Lightning (public beta just announced in comp.sys.next.announce) won't work > for less than 3.3 either. > > What gives? > > Unfortunately, at this time, I'm stuck at 3.1 on my Cube, until I can manage to > get OPENSTEP 4.2 installed on my ThinkPad (anyone in Virginia and have an > Adaptec SlimSCSI card I could drop by and use? Will work out trade for graphic > design of custom font creation) > > Why is it that NS 3.2 or 3.1 can't support this sort of application? Frankly I do not know what causes PStill to fail on 3.x [x=0,1,2] systems. Could you describe your symptoms? Since PStill does not use DPS at all the cause should be trivial to resolve if known. You can find a m68k-thin-only binary here, just test it on 3.1 or 3.2 m68k NeXT, maybe it works: http://www.this.net/~frank/PStill.1.10g.N.b.tar.gz -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PostScript Distiller for NeXTStep pre 3.3 Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:53:47 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <61tqnr$ot$1@news.seicom.net> References: <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> In <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > Okay, PStill.app won't work save for 3.3 or later, now I see that White > Lightning (public beta just announced in comp.sys.next.announce) won't work > for less than 3.3 either. What gives? Frankly I do not know what causes PStill to fail on 3.x [x=0,1,2] systems. Could you describe your symptoms? Since PStill does not use DPS at all the cause should be trivial to resolve if known. You can find a m68k-thin-only binary here, just test it on 3.1 or 3.2 m68k NeXT, maybe it works: http://www.this.net/~frank/PStill.1.10g.N.b.tar.gz -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PostScript Distiller for NeXTStep pre 3.3 Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:50:02 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <61tqgq$f8$1@news.seicom.net> References: <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > Okay, PStill.app won't work save for 3.3 or later, now I see that White > Lightning (public beta just announced in comp.sys.next.announce) won't work > for less than 3.3 either. What gives? > ... > Why is it that NS 3.2 or 3.1 can't support this sort of application? Frankly I do not know what causes PStill to fail on 3.x [x=0,1,2] systems. Could you describe your symptoms? Since PStill does not use DPS at all the cause should be trivial to resolve if known. You can find a m68k-thin-only binary here, just test it on 3.1 or 3.2 m68k NeXT, maybe it works: http://www.this.net/~frank/PStill.1.10g.N.b.tar.gz -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PostScript Distiller for NeXTStep pre 3.3 Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:41:27 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <61tq0n$t99$1@news.seicom.net> References: <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > Okay, PStill.app won't work save for 3.3 or later, now I see that White > Lightning (public beta just announced in comp.sys.next.announce) won't work > for less than 3.3 either. > > What gives? > > Unfortunately, at this time, I'm stuck at 3.1 on my Cube, until I can manage to > get OPENSTEP 4.2 installed on my ThinkPad (anyone in Virginia and have an > Adaptec SlimSCSI card I could drop by and use? Will work out trade for graphic > design of custom font creation) > > Why is it that NS 3.2 or 3.1 can't support this sort of application? Frankly I do not know what causes PStill to fail on 3.x [x=0,1,2] systems. Could you describe your symptoms? Since PStill does not use DPS at all the cause should be trivial to resolve if known. You can find a m68k-thin-only binary here, just test it on 3.1 or 3.2 m68k NeXT, maybe it works: http://www.this.net/~frank/PStill.1.10g.N.b.tar.gz -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PostScript Distiller for NeXTStep pre 3.3 Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:42:43 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <61tq33$34$1@news.seicom.net> References: <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > Okay, PStill.app won't work save for 3.3 or later, now I see that White > Lightning (public beta just announced in comp.sys.next.announce) won't work > for less than 3.3 either. > > What gives? > > Unfortunately, at this time, I'm stuck at 3.1 on my Cube, until I can manage to > get OPENSTEP 4.2 installed on my ThinkPad (anyone in Virginia and have an > Adaptec SlimSCSI card I could drop by and use? Will work out trade for graphic > design of custom font creation) > > Why is it that NS 3.2 or 3.1 can't support this sort of application? Frankly I do not know what causes PStill to fail on 3.x [x=0,1,2] systems. Could you describe your symptoms? Since PStill does not use DPS at all the cause should be trivial to resolve if known. You can find a m68k-thin-only binary here, just test it on 3.1 or 3.2 m68k NeXT, maybe it works: http://www.this.net/~frank/PStill.1.10g.N.b.tar.gz -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PostScript Distiller for NeXTStep pre 3.3 Date: 13 Oct 1997 19:16:14 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <61ts1u$er0$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <19971013143401.KAA05758@ladder01.news.aol.com> willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) wrote: > Why is it that NS 3.2 or 3.1 can't support this sort of application? Oh, they could. The problem is that most people currently developing software want to write it using OpenStep & the FoundationKit, in the hopes of reaching the Rhapsody market down the road. There is very little possibility of recovering one's investment (in money, time spent, availability of useful code, etc) in writing software for the pre-NEXTSTEP 3.3 market. IMHO, of course.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: PPP problem with Multitech modem Message-ID: <EI095n.H0F@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:36:59 GMT Hi, I just could not get the PPP 2.3.0 work with a MultiTech modem. Everything is fine with the ZyXel 1496E. Is there anything special I should consider? I use the shipped ppp-on-dial and pppup scripts to dial PPP. This is a black NeXT 25Mhz. Thanks for any info you can provide. The PPP is PPP version 2.3b3 for NS 3.2 and 3.3.
From: dmwood@tater.Mines.EDU (David M. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Filtering spam e-mail Date: 13 Oct 1997 20:43:38 GMT Organization: Colorado School of Mines Distribution: usa Message-ID: <61u15q$h7u$1@herald.Mines.EDU> Keywords: spam, removing Howdy all. What's the easiest way to filter out spam e-mail under Mail.app on NeXTStep/OpenStep [from netbiz@mail2.c-flash.net, who fail to honor their promise to cease after >10 `remove' replies] using ? Does the new, nicely packaged procmail.pkg on PEAK do this? --Many thanks! --- David M. Wood Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401 Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840 http://www.physics.mines.edu/people/pages/wood.html e-mail: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Reinstalling OS Message-ID: <EHzEwx.4tp@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971011115242.16088A-100000@goodguy> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:43:45 GMT In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.971011115242.16088A-100000@goodguy> Jay <nin@goodnet.com> writes: > > I am using a NeXTstation Color (original NeXT hardware). I just > purchased it from a friend of mine..however, the system integrity > leaves a bit to be desired. There is 'junk' all over the hard > drive (only 240 MB) and some of the apps don't work (corrupt, > etc...). I would like to wipe the hard drive clean, and just > re-install the OS (I have NeXTStep 3.2 CD) but I have no clue > how to do this. I have set up many Linux workstations and other > *nix's, but this is my first time working with NeXTStep. I can't > even find any boot disks anywhere. Can anyone help me out? > Log off and restart the system. If the initialization screen appears type 'Command-~'. At the prompt type 'bfd' after you inserted both CD and floppy from the NEXTSTEP distribution. Then follow the instructions on the screen. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: looking for 3270 Message-ID: <EHzF2M.4uF@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <01bcd72c$38002e00$2b0a10d0@sprout.inxpress.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:47:10 GMT In article <01bcd72c$38002e00$2b0a10d0@sprout.inxpress.net> "Kristin" <sprout@inxpress.net> writes: > Hi....i've been on a hunt for a 3270 for the Next box we've got > running at work. I saw a site that i can buy 3270,but since i > can get 3270 for pc architecture for free, i thot perhaps there > might be a site that i just wasn't able to locate. and who > better to ask than you guys? any one know of any? its for > educational use if that would make any difference. > There's tn3270 in the NEXTSTEP distribution. That's all you need as long as your host supports TCP/IP connections on its fep (should be pretty standard by now). -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Receiving FAX with newam-0.2 and ZyXel 1496... Message-ID: <EI0CEn.K1r@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:47:10 GMT Hi, I have been playing around with the newam-0.2 on a black NeXT with a Zyxel 1496 modem. I followed the instruction and got the modem work to send FAX. However, I just could not figure out how to set it up to receive incoming FAX. I tried different FAX machines and none of them could get through. The modem just does not pick up the FAX tone (if there is such thing). Any insights on this? Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Blue Sky PS Fonts and TeX Message-ID: <EI0C4o.Jrr@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <343E44EC.A31CDC3C@ti.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:41:12 GMT Steve, Your message is not wholly clear, but I will try to answer it anyway... > Hi all! > > I have installed the Blue Sky postscript fonts on my system. Further, I > have modified DVIPS to embed these fonts into any PS file it generates. > The results are great! The PS files (though large) print beautifully > and, better yet, they distill to PDF beautifully (using the Adobe > distiller on a Sun). I assume you are talking about your Sun machine here... > > The problem I have is that my NeXT system is not using the fonts quite > properly. If I LaTeX a document, copy the DVI file to a SUN, and then > use XDVI to preview the document, it looks great! Remember DVI stands for device-independent. It only says that your DVI file and XDVI are fine. It says nothing about your CMPS fonts. > However, if I use the > teTeX modified TeXViewer.app (ksepath version 2.5) the documents don't > look all that great. I know that it is finding the fonts because the > console flashes up each font file as it loads. I don't think this can not be true. If TeXViewer.app can find the fonts, then it should look as desired. Other fonts were used instead. > However, the image, > while quite readable, is not identical to the real McCoy. The most > notable thing is that some words are not boldfaced as they should be. Because the default fonts are used instead. They are plain cm fonts. > > The same problem exists if I convert the file to PS using DVIPS. > Opening the PS Previewer.app shows the file but it doesn't look quite > right. However, printing it on a PS printer does work. > If you print the file on a NeXT printer, what you get from the printer is what you see with PS Previewer.app. The NeXT printer does not load its own fonts, but use the font instruction from inside the PS file. Other PS printers may have different story. > Since the file prints right and displays correctly on a different > system, I suspect that the fonts are OK but my system is not working > quite right. Just to be safe, I did re-download the Blue Sky fonts and > reinstall them. No change. > > Any thoughts as to why this happens? > > TIA for any info! > From what you described, it seems you did not set up the CMPS fonts correctly. I have the CMPS fonts (Blue Sky?) on my NeXT and I do not have any problems. You will need to double check your config.XXX file and XXX.map file(s). Remember that all the font names and font file names are case sensitive. With the shipped CMPS fonts, the font file names are lower-case, but the font names inside are all UP-case. What you can do is to get the cmsample.tex file and process the DVI using regular cm fonts and cmps fonts. See the PS files and see what fonts are included in the PS files. The PS file using regular cm fonts should look like this: -------------------------------------------------------- %!PS-Adobe-2.0 %%Creator: dvipsk 5.66a Copyright 1986-97 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com) %%Title: cmsample.dvi %%Pages: 10 %%PageOrder: Ascend %%BoundingBox: 0 0 612 792 %%DocumentPaperSizes: Letter %%EndComments %DVIPSCommandLine: dvips cmsample -o /tmp/cmsample.ps %DVIPSParameters: dpi=400 %DVIPSSource: TeX output 1997.05.11:1029 %%BeginProcSet: tex.pro %! /TeXDict 250 dict def TeXDict begin /N{def}def /B{bind def}N /S{exch}N /X{S N}B /TR{translate}N /isls false N /vsize 11 72 mul N /hsize 8.5 72 ... B /r{p 2 w}B /s{p 3 w}B /t{p 4 w}B /x{0 S rmoveto}B /y{3 2 roll p a}B /bos{/SS save N}B /eos{SS restore}B end %%EndProcSet TeXDict begin 40258431 52099146 1000 400 400 (cmsample.dvi) @start %DVIPSBitmapFont: Fa cmsy8 10 126 /Fa 126 128 df<FFFFFFFFE0FFFFFFFFE0FFFFFFFFE023037B8E2E>0 D<78FCFCFCFC7806067B9010>I<60000018F0000038780000783C0000F01E0001E00F00 03C00780078003C00F0001E01E0000F03C0000787800003CF000001FE000000FC0000007 ... -------------------------------------------------------- The PS file using CMPS fonts should look like this: -------------------------------------------------------- %!PS-Adobe-2.0 %%Creator: dvipsk 5.66a Copyright 1986-97 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com) %%Title: cmsample.dvi %%Pages: 10 %%PageOrder: Ascend %%BoundingBox: 0 0 612 792 %%DocumentFonts: CMCSC10 CMSSBX10 CMR10 CMTI10 CMBX10 CMB10 CMBX5 CMBX6 %%+ CMBX7 CMBX8 CMBX9 CMBX12 CMBXSL10 CMBXTI10 CMDUNH10 CMFF10 CMFI10 %%+ CMFIB8 CMITT10 CMR5 CMR6 CMR7 CMR8 CMR9 CMR12 CMR17 CMSL8 CMSL9 %%+ CMSL10 CMSL12 CMSLTT10 CMSS8 CMSS9 CMSS10 CMSS12 CMSS17 CMSSDC10 %%+ CMSSI8 CMSSI9 CMSSI10 CMSSI12 CMSSI17 CMSSQ8 CMSSQI8 CMTCSC10 CMTEX8 %%+ CMTEX9 CMTEX10 CMTI7 CMTI8 CMTI9 CMTI12 CMTT8 CMTT9 CMTT10 CMTT12 %%+ CMU10 CMVTT10 CMBSY10 CMINCH CMEX10 CMMI10 CMMIB10 CMSY8 %%DocumentPaperSizes: Letter %%EndComments %DVIPSCommandLine: dvips cmsample -Pcmps -o /tmp/cmsample.cmps.ps %DVIPSParameters: dpi=400 %DVIPSSource: TeX output 1997.05.11:1029 %%BeginProcSet: tex.pro %! /TeXDict 250 dict def TeXDict begin /N{def}def /B{bind def}N /S{exch}N /X{S N}B /TR{translate}N /isls false N /vsize 11 72 mul N /hsize 8.5 72 .... B /r{p 2 w}B /s{p 3 w}B /t{p 4 w}B /x{0 S rmoveto}B /y{3 2 roll p a}B /bos{/SS save N}B /eos{SS restore}B end %%EndProcSet %%BeginProcSet: texps.pro %! TeXDict begin /rf{findfont dup length 1 add dict begin{1 index /FID ne 2 ... /ExtendFont{3 -1 roll mul exch}def /ReEncodeFont{/Encoding exch def}def end %%EndProcSet %%BeginFont: CMSY8 %!PS-AdobeFont-1.1: CMSY8 1.0 %%CreationDate: 1991 Aug 15 07:22:10 % Copyright (C) 1997 American Mathematical Society. All Rights Reserved. 11 dict begin /FontInfo 7 dict dup begin /version (1.0) readonly def /Notice (Copyright (C) 1997 American Mathematical Society. All Rights Reserved) readonly def /FullName (CMSY8) readonly def /FamilyName (Computer Modern) readonly def /Weight (Medium) readonly def /ItalicAngle -14.035 def /isFixedPitch false def end readonly def /FontName /CMSY8 def /PaintType 0 def /FontType 1 def /FontMatrix [0.001 0 0 0.001 0 0] readonly def /Encoding 256 array 0 1 255 {1 index exch /.notdef put} for dup 0 /minus put dup 1 /periodcentered put dup 2 /multiply put dup 3 /asteriskmath put dup 4 /divide put dup 5 /diamondmath put ... -------------------------------------------------------- Pay attention to the font name "CMSY8", not cmsy8. Hope this helps.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Sender: Mike Doyle<a3telecom@answerme.com> Message-ID: <cancel.61to69$ae5346@beta.airnet.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <61to69$ae5346@beta.airnet.net> ignore Control: cancel <61to69$ae5346@beta.airnet.net> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:10:17 GMT ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Tue Oct 14 00:21:59 1997 Original subject was: Question
From: isor@ripco.com (chiroptera) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Benatong / Power Guardian, Gone? Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:53:58 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <3442b3e9.540954@news.enteract.com> does anyone happen to know it Benatong dead now. i can not reach their www page. -eric
From: gaunce@ichthus.syr.edu (L Gaunce Lewis Jr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: reading NeXT formated floppies and zip disks under win95 Date: 13 Oct 1997 08:07:33 GMT Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY (USA) Distribution: world Message-ID: <61sks5$cbh@newstand.syr.edu> I want an add-on to win95 that will allow me to read NeXT formatted floppies and zip disks under win 95. I have seen such utilities that allow one to read mac formatted floppies and zip disks under win95 and would like the same for the NeXT. Any suggestions? Thanks, Gaunce
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3D Graphics Packages? References: <61dton$1g3q$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <3442ee15.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 14 Oct 97 03:59:17 GMT bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good 3D graphics package for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? > I've heard of 3DReality, SolidThinking and Intuitiv3D. Any others? > I've briefly looked at these three and they all seem to do most > of what I want, except I have a _STRONG_ need for animation > capabilities, which only SolidThinking seems to support. Can you > do animation in 3DReality or Intuitiv3D with their API? (or more > to the point, has anyone already written an API to do it, as I > haven't that sort of time right now). > Another problem is I don't know if Gestel (SolidThinking) or > Cub'x (Intuitiv3D) are even still in the NeXT business or have > a Rhapsody plan (I already lost out on my previous $ investment > on Tesseract, which was beta and never properly finished :-(. So > Stone's 3DReality is a littel more appealing because it has a > better chance of making it to Rhapsody. > I also checked out Geomview, which is a great app for what it > is, but doesn't support the more advanced stuff 3D like texture > mapping (did I say I need texture mapping too...) > Any thoughts/recommendations? Well solidThinking is deffinatly the beefiest and most powerful of all three...And costs more too boot. It is still supported and I believe his web pages state he's still working on it and plans to release an NT version anytime... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
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From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Filtering spam e-mail Date: 14 Oct 1997 04:33:56 GMT Organization: none Distribution: usa Message-ID: <61usnk$b2p$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <61u15q$h7u$1@herald.Mines.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dmwood@tater.Mines.EDU In <61u15q$h7u$1@herald.Mines.EDU> David M. Wood wrote: > What's the easiest way to filter out spam e-mail under Mail.app on > NeXTStep/OpenStep procmail > [from netbiz@mail2.c-flash.net, who fail to honor their > promise to cease after >10 `remove' replies] using ? ``Remove'' requests are all false. Don't trust them. They just use them to confirm your address. > Does the new, nicely packaged procmail.pkg on PEAK do this? yes. it is a little hard to set up at first. The best thing to do is checkout the procmail mailing list. % procmail -v Submit questions/answers to the procmail-related mailinglist by sending to: <procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de> And of course, subscription and information requests for this list to: <procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de> TjL [ If you recently sent me email and haven't gotten a reply by Oct 14th (and were expecting one) your email may have been lost in a sendmail disaster. Please re-send ] -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vrotney@netcom.com (William Paul Vrotney) Subject: Re: Word wrapping In-Reply-To: Alex King's message of Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:59:17 -0500 Message-ID: <vrotneyEI0tzw.GtA@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971013125543.16311A-100000@cube.phy.uic.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 03:07:08 GMT Sender: vrotney@netcom7.netcom.com In article <Pine.NXT.3.96.971013125543.16311A-100000@cube.phy.uic.edu> Alex King <king@cube.phy.uic.edu> writes: > > Does anyone know of a good way to force word wrapping in NeXT apps like > Edit and TexEdit? I've been switching between TeXEdit on my NeXT cube and > Alpha/Oztex on my Mac. Please no flames. Have you considered Emacs? It has almost everything you'll ever want and if not it is easy to add yourself and it is consistent across all platforms and its free. You can now get a release for the Mac. Does anyone know if Emacs (not the App) compiles under Rhapsody yet? When I took the NS developer course they tried to force me to use Edit, but I used Emacs and all of the projects worked out fine. -- William P. Vrotney - vrotney@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Performance Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EHrG3G.JMn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 01:28:27 GMT References: <61go68$ff5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <61gq43$74e$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <61gq43$74e$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>, Mario Illgen <Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE> wrote: >I just installed Performance and all four examples are working fine (Openstep >4.0)... > What hardware are you running on? I couldn't get the examples to work on black; perhaps there's an endian assumption somewhere inside Performance. BTW, does anyone else think it's pretty funny that one of the pages of the help is from 3D Reality? -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <3442b9d2.0@Crypt.NetGoth.COM> Control: cancel <3442b9d2.0@Crypt.NetGoth.COM> Date: 14 Oct 1997 04:12:26 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.3442b9d2.0@Crypt.NetGoth.COM> Sender: info@pgs.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Paul.J.Buckley@columbia.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Performance Date: 9 Oct 1997 02:58:58 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <61hh9i$b4b$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <61go68$ff5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <61go68$ff5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> On 10/08/97, Mark Trombino wrote: >After a 2 hour download I anxiously launched the Performace example >ToaStars.prf. I instead received the alert panel message: > >/LocalLibrary/Performace/Examples/ToaStars.prf/actor is not a supported Actor >file > >I get the same message for all the examples. Do they work? I know that this >isn't a stable release and all but.... > >-- >Mark Trombino > mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay) > > This was answered a couple days ago by Sven Droll | It seems that the demos(!) only work on Intel (Sun, HP?) hardware | and not on black. The output of a black machine in Document.parts | differs from that in the examples (the header: streamtyped and | typedstream for example). I tried to hack the header of the | Document.parts-file inside the .prf-folder, but this results in | many postscript-errors like out of range etc. --
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Performance Date: 9 Oct 1997 03:13:47 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <61hi5b$jhh$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <61go68$ff5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com,info@rcn.de In <61go68$ff5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Mark Trombino wrote: > After a 2 hour download I anxiously launched the Performace example > ToaStars.prf. I instead received the alert panel message: > > /LocalLibrary/Performace/Examples/ToaStars.prf/actor is not a supported Actor > file > > I get the same message for all the examples. Do they work? I know that this > isn't a stable release and all but.... It was said on this newsgroup 2 days ago that there were problems with running on black hardware. I have removed the NeXT part of the binary and reformed it as ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/misc/Performance.0.6e.IHS.tar.gz Hopefully this will solve problems with folks downloading the file to find that it doesn't work.... and it's 6+ megs rather than 8+ (6.7 rather than 8.1) TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MIDI HW/SW quest Date: 9 Oct 1997 04:18:40 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <61hlv0$jhh$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <ptf-0810971654300001@1cust85.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ptf@earthlink.com checkout http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html I think there are links there for you... TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhöfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mac user (loser) wants to learn BSD 4.4 Date: 9 Oct 1997 09:50:11 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <61i9cj$lb@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <343BC6B3.AEA8A1D2@mailer.packet.net> David Fekke <dfekke@mailer.packet.net> wrote: >I have been reading the news on Rhapsody as it becomes available. One of >the things I keep on hearing about is BSD 4.4 being part of the new OS. > >Being a curious person like I am, I want to find out as much about BSD >4.4 as I can before the Premiere release comes out next year. Could >someone point me in the direction of some URL that describe how to use >the Unix command line in BSD 4.4. You will have to distinguish between the BSD 4.4 API, which is an API like OpenStep or the one for MacOS, and the commandline, wich means you run a shell (program) and use the standard Unix commands to manipulate files & data, etc. If you want to do programming on Rhapsody, you'll do most of your work with the OpenStep Frameworks and need BSD rather occasionally (O.K. depends on your application). If you want to become a whizzo-Unix-power-user, you should grab one of those introductions to Unix and shells (a fat book is not necessarily a good one). O'Reilly put out a series of books on BSD 4.4 some time ago. The "User's reference Manual" lists the most common BSD programs and their special functionality under 4.4. It's a reference and of not much use for an introduction. Ever heard of FreeBSD for PCs (& others)? It's a current implementation of BSD 4.4 (and a stable one: a lot of public ftp servers run it). Try http://www.freebsd.org ... I guess they should docs and pointers there. Hope this helps .... ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Filtering spam e-mail Date: 14 Oct 1997 12:03:24 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <61vn2c$mnb$1@news2.digex.net> References: <61u15q$h7u$1@herald.Mines.EDU> <61usnk$b2p$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > >> Does the new, nicely packaged procmail.pkg on PEAK do this? > >yes. it is a little hard to set up at first. > >The best thing to do is checkout the procmail mailing list. > >% procmail -v I'm not sure of the procmail recipe, but my best success on filtering spam has been to filter everything that doesn't have my name in the To: field in the header. It gets 99% of the spam... -- *mikelea@access.digex.net* "imperious, angry, furious, extreme in all things, with a disturbance in the moral imagination unlike any the world has ever known-there you have me in a nutshell: and one more thing, kill me or take me as I am, because I will not change." -de Sade
From: Christian.Rapp@uptime.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: Examples of NSTimer? Date: 14 Oct 1997 14:24:28 GMT Organization: UBS Network Services Message-ID: <61vvas$hjl@svdns1.ubinet.ubs.com> References: <3433BAF5.4DD2@colorado.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: engelman@colorado.edu In <3433BAF5.4DD2@colorado.edu> Andrew Engelmann wrote: > Openstepers, > > Can anyone direct me to some good examples of setting up a timer in > OPENSTEP 4.2 Enterprise running on Windows NT using the NSTimer object? > > The online help is somewhat lacking and I'm getting a parse error. > Thanks. > > -Drew > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Andrew Engelmann > Nonlinear and Real-Time Control Lab > Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Engineering, Campus Box 425 > University of Colorado > Boulder, CO 80309-0425 > (303)492-2818 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > At the moment I use NSTimer objects only for an infopanel animation ;-) , but I didn't had any problems. -christian //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - (void)windowWillClose:(NSNotification *)aNotification { [timer invalidate]; timer = nil; } //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - (void)drawRect:(NSRect)rect { NSEnumerator *enumerator; InfoGraphic *tmpGraphic; if (timer == nil) { timer = [NSTimer scheduledTimerWithTimeInterval:0.1 target:self selector:@selector(_incStep:) userInfo:nil repeats:YES]; } enumerator = [graphics objectEnumerator]; while (tmpGraphic = [enumerator nextObject]) { [tmpGraphic drawRect:rect]; } } //------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - (void)_incStep:sender { NSEnumerator *enumerator; InfoGraphic *tmpGraphic; enumerator = [graphics objectEnumerator]; while (tmpGraphic = [enumerator nextObject]) { [tmpGraphic incStep]; } [self setNeedsDisplay:YES]; [[self window] displayIfNeeded]; } //-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Benatong / Power Guardian, Gone? Date: 14 Oct 1997 14:45:23 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6200i3$b2p$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <3442b3e9.540954@news.enteract.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <3442b3e9.540954@news.enteract.com> chiroptera wrote: > does anyone happen to know it Benatong dead now. i can not reach their > www page. Neither can I.... I hope they are just temp. down and not permanently! TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Benatong / Power Guardian, Gone? Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:29:39 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg158506.thr-6a77dfc0.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <3442b3e9.540954@news.enteract.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg158506.thr-6a77dfc0.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> isor@ripco.com,UseNet writes: >does anyone happen to know it Benatong dead now. i can not reach their >www page. I just took shipment of their software for Next hardware about a week ago and got a handwritten note included. Someone is alive there...
Date: 14 Oct 1997 12:16:49 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <cancel.61q9i0$g49$41@news4.atl.bellsouth.net> Control: cancel <61q9i0$g49$41@news4.atl.bellsouth.net> From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: smithparnell@juno.com Subject: cmsg cancel <61q9i0$g49$41@news4.atl.bellsouth.net> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19971014.18 for further details
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.next.software Subject: imagetools (was: Re: Here come the apps) Date: 14 Oct 1997 17:17:23 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <6209f3$76p$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <01bcd80c$210341c0$582168cf@test1> <61u4rc$i4i@shelob.afs.com> <61u85h$f84$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <61u85h$f84$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> On 10/14/97, I wrote: > I've also been compiling up a number of utilities, including netpbm (with > thanks to Bill Bumgarner for the "imagetools" idea) to appear at an ftp > site when I find where it's appropriate to put them (peak, TjL?). > OK, I'm curently uploading the suite to peak: ftp://ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/imagetools.2.P.sb.tar.gz I hope this is of use to people -- please let me know how you get on. Best wishes, mmalc. ImageTools for Rhapsody/PPC =========================== This archive contains the most recent releases I could find of the IJG's JPEG implementation (v6a), the NetPBM suite of image conversion tools (1mar1994.p1), Sam Leffler's LIBTIFF (v3.4beta037), and giftool (0.9) and gifttrans (note that giftool is shareware, see the README). All utilities in NetPBM were built against the latest version (v3.4beta037) of libtiff. The NetPBM distribution includes a version of libtiff from late 1991; the source to that version appears in a compressed form in the source tree for NetPBM, but the included NetPBM source has been modified to use the latest version of libtiff. All utilities in libtiff were built using libjpeg. The original idea for this package, and the template for this document, are due to Bill Bumgarner <bbum@codefab.com> who produced the original imagetools package for NEXTSTEP. Any failures to live up to his example are my own. Best wishes, mmalc. 14oct97 mmalcolm crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG software Release 5b (15-Mar-1995) ------------------------------------------------------------------- This package contains C software to implement JPEG image compression and decompression. JPEG (pronounced "jay-peg") is a standardized compression method for full-color and gray-scale images. JPEG is intended for compressing "real-world" scenes; line drawings, cartoons and other non-realistic images are not its strong suit. JPEG is lossy, meaning that the output image is not exactly identical to the input image. Hence you must not use JPEG if you have to have identical output bits. However, on typical photographic images, very good compression levels can be obtained with no visible change, and remarkably high compression levels are possible if you can tolerate a low-quality image. --------------------------------- TIFF Software Release v3.4beta037 --------------------------------- This software provides support for the Tag Image Format (TIFF). Included is a library, libtiff, for reading and writing TIFF, a collection of tools for doing simple manipulations of TIFF images, and documentation on the library and tools. An assortment of TIFF-related software contributed by others is also included. The library, along with associated tool programs, should handle most of your needs for reading and writing files that follow the 5.0 or 6.0 TIFF spec. There is also considerable support for some of the more esoteric portions of the 6.0 TIFF spec. ------------------------------------ N E T P B M Release 1 March 1994 p1 ------------------------------------ Netpbm is a toolkit for conversion of images between a variety of different formats, as well as to allow a few basic image operations. The idea is, if you want to convert among N image formats, you only need 2*N conversion filters, instead of the N^2 you would need if you wrote each one separately. In addition to the converters, the package includes some simple tools for manipulating the portable formats. -------------- giftrans v1.12 -------------- giftrans converts any GIF file into a GIF89a. Allows for setting the transparent or background color, changing colors, adding or removing comments. Also code to analyze GIF contents.
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@Apple.Com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: reading NeXT formated floppies and zip disks under win95 Date: 14 Oct 1997 17:53:16 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <620bic$12qi$1@news.apple.com> References: <61sks5$cbh@newstand.syr.edu> L Gaunce Lewis Jr writes > I want an add-on to win95 that will allow me to read NeXT formatted > floppies and zip disks under win 95. I have seen such utilities that > allow one to read mac formatted floppies and zip disks under win95 and > would like the same for the NeXT. Any suggestions? NeXT's filesystem is (was? what's the proper verb here?) a standard BSD 4.3 filesystem (big endian byte order). If there's any tool out there for reading UNIX filiesystems on Win95, it ought to work with NeXT floppies and Zip disks. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl (Maurice van Steensel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP with Next? Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 14:43:34 GMT Organization: Universitair Centrum Informatievoorziening, The Netherlands Message-ID: <343cecaf.12126616@netnews.uci.kun.nl> References: <61879f$12r8$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu> On 5 Oct 1997 14:13:03 GMT, tpayne@u.washington.edu (T. Payne) wrote: >Can anyone suggest a basic reference to help me set up my NS3.3 Intel >system via PPP? I'm futzing around trying to edit /etc/REMOTE to use tip >to connect, but have found nothing on PPP. I'm starting at the very >beginning: modem, phone line, and software shipped with NS3.3. > >Thanks. >-- >Thomas H. Payne, MD >VA Puget Sound Health Care System, Seattle See http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next. This page contains many many links to PPP for NeXT, FAQ's that should help you setting it all up etc. I would also suggest you get the latest version of Kermit via kermit.columbia.edu (ftp). Use Kermit to make a connection then use what happens next to set up PPP (see the URL above for that). Hope this helps a bit! Maurice
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Performance (on PEAK) Date: 9 Oct 1997 15:17:09 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <61ishl$qa4$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <61go68$ff5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <61hh9i$b4b$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have separated the Examples from the main package. And the examples do not have the NeXT hardware arch anymore. Same directory... see /pub/next/new_arrivals on next-ftp.peak.org TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing to a printer with no host machine - how? Date: 14 Oct 1997 18:55:23 GMT Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Message-ID: <620f6r$6eq$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> I asked this question on comp.sys.next.sysadmin with no response. Maybe the people who would know are lurking here... Our network has a printer which is hooked directly to the net via an intel interface card, and so all I have for the printer is an ip address - no host name. I would like to use this printer, but I can't get my Nextstation to recognize it. I always get a complaint: Oct 14 14:08:22 moriah lpd[13367]: unable to get hostname for remote machine 198.146.126.58 Oct 14 14:08:22 moriah lpd[13367]: /dev/lp: No such file or directory on the console. When I try lpq, I get: unable to get hostname for remote machine 198.146.126.58 Warning: no daemon present I am not sure what daemon is expected. (lpd is running.) I set the rm parameter equal to the ip address in the printcap file (to feed into netinfo), which worked for a linux box in a similar situation, but it didn't work here. Otherwise I don't know what to try. Any ideas? I can't find any info on this in the "Mixed Net" documentation or in NextAnswers. Cheers, Don
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TeX under NeXTStep (was Re: Word wrapping) Date: 14 Oct 1997 19:13:07 GMT Message-ID: <19971014191301.PAA28512@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <vrotneyEI0tzw.GtA@netcom.com> Okay, I'm just getting started on this--have gotten a copy of Knuth's _The TeXBook_ from the library and am almost a third of the way through. Can anyone offer any NeXT specific information? For example: How does one use .EPS files? Fonts other than CMR? Are there any other great freebies around besides the Blue Sky TeX fonts? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: nospam@ried_at_mpip-mainz.mpg.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX under NeXTStep (was Re: Word wrapping) Date: 14 Oct 1997 19:58:07 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <620isf$q80$3@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> References: <vrotneyEI0tzw.GtA@netcom.com> <19971014191301.PAA28512@ladder02.news.aol.com> willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) wrote: > Okay, I'm just getting started on this--have gotten a copy of Knuth's _The > TeXBook_ from the library and am almost a third of the way through. > Can anyone offer any NeXT specific information? > For example: > How does one use .EPS files? > Fonts other than CMR? > Are there any other great freebies around besides the Blue Sky TeX fonts? I recommand to use the tetex and not the old tex included by NeXT. Have a look at Gregor's page: http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX/ stefan -- _____________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G.\ |E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME/NeXT welcome) | |Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 __/___/ | |Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| |WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried \_/ \_/| | There are only three types of computer users: | | Those that use NeXTs. Those that wished they used NeXTs. | | Those that don't know what they are missing. | \_____________________________________________________________________/
From: nospam@ried_at_mpip-mainz.mpg.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Printing to a printer with no host machine - how? Date: 14 Oct 1997 19:54:54 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <620ime$q80$2@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> References: <620f6r$6eq$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) wrote: > I asked this question on comp.sys.next.sysadmin with no response. Maybe the people who would know are lurking here... > Our network has a printer which is hooked directly to the net via an intel interface card, and so all I have for the printer is an ip address - no host name. I would like to use this printer, but I can't get my Nextstation to recognize it. I always get a complaint: > Oct 14 14:08:22 moriah lpd[13367]: unable to get hostname for remote machine 198.146.126.58 Oct 14 14:08:22 moriah lpd[13367]: /dev/lp: No such file or directory > on the console. When I try lpq, I get: > unable to get hostname for remote machine 198.146.126.58 Warning: no daemon present > I am not sure what daemon is expected. (lpd is running.) I set the rm parameter equal to the ip address in the printcap file (to feed into netinfo), which worked for a linux box in a similar situation, but it didn't work here. Otherwise I don't know what to try. Any ideas? I can't find any info on this in the "Mixed Net" documentation or in NextAnswers. Don, login as root and type lpc restart all or lpc status a seperate daemon for every queue is restarted by this and problems are printed out. Why don't you set a DNs entry for you printer ? stefan -- _____________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G.\ |E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME/NeXT welcome) | |Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 __/___/ | |Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| |WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried \_/ \_/| | There are only three types of computer users: | | Those that use NeXTs. Those that wished they used NeXTs. | | Those that don't know what they are missing. | \_____________________________________________________________________/
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX under NeXTStep (was Re: Word wrapping) Date: 14 Oct 1997 19:43:01 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <620i05$8oj$1@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <vrotneyEI0tzw.GtA@netcom.com> <19971014191301.PAA28512@ladder02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19971014191301.PAA28512@ladder02.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: % Okay, I'm just getting started on this--have gotten a copy of Knuth's _The % TeXBook_ from the library and am almost a third of the way through. % % Can anyone offer any NeXT specific information? % % For example: % % How does one use .EPS files? yes % % Fonts other than CMR? yes, including postscritp. % % Are there any other great freebies around besides the Blue Sky TeX fonts? A good place to start is nexttex.pkg, with the online doc (somefile.dvi). On the www you can check out http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX/, lots of goodies for next tex. --------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (mailto:antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ---------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Epson Stylus Color X00 update 2 References: <343fd726.0@206.25.228.5> From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <3443e376.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 14 Oct 97 21:26:14 GMT Hi All, Ok, here's the scoop on the Epson Stylus Color printers. The only driver I know of that works with any of the new Epsons (200, 400, 600, 800....maybe the 1520 & 3000, but I'm not sure) is GSCorp's eXTRAPRINT; JetPilot2.3 ALMOST works, but doesn't and I've been told there will be no updates for a while...and that there MIGHT be a Rhapsody version that they release, but they are not sure. DOTs doesnt work. Marcel Weiher, the author of eXTRAPRINT, has very KINDLY provided me with an update gratis for use on NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. He's working on an OPENSTEP/Rhapsody version that will work much better. You can contact him at: Marcel Weiher <marcel@system.de> and if you ask him really nicely he may do similiarly for you. I have all the things he sent me all packaged up, and if he gives me the go ahead I'd be happy to forward it to you or put it on an FTP site. Well, I think that's my last update on the topic. I hope it provides useful for someone. Take care :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.perl.misc From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Subject: Result: Cannot compile perl 5.004.03 under NEXTSTEP 3.3 Sender: news@RnA.NL Organization: R&A Message-ID: <EHstrx.1sB@RnA.NL> References: <EHMDJp.2t9@RnA.NL> <61b95v$4vm$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:21:33 GMT The result is, under NEXTSTEP 3,3/NEXTSTEP Developer 3.3: For Perl 5.004.03 The sparc compile fails when optimization is on The hppa compile fails regardless of optimization I would like a new cc (this is gcc 2.5.8), but as far as I know, when I install a newer gcc, I lose the possibility to make fat binaries, and that is not acceptable. Maybe there is a way to use the newer parts of the gcc compiler, but keep the old cc driver? If I succeed in creating a good set, I'll distribute a package (that's what I have to do anyway if I want to install easily on my other i386-no-developer system). -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. Renee: "Met veel koper maakt men hoempa." (After hearing Brahms' Festouverture)
From: GehleSoftware@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Printing to a printer with no host machine - how? Date: 14 Oct 1997 19:43:01 GMT Organization: Gehle Software Message-ID: <620i05$ft2$1@news00.btx.dtag.de> References: <620f6r$6eq$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Donald N. Petcher wrote: > > I asked this question on comp.sys.next.sysadmin with no response. Maybe the > people who would know are lurking here... > > Our network has a printer which is hooked directly to the net via an intel > interface card, and so all I have for the printer is an ip address - no host > name. I would like to use this printer, but I can't get my Nextstation to > recognize it. I always get a complaint: > > Oct 14 14:08:22 moriah lpd[13367]: unable to get hostname for remote machine 198.146.126.58 > Oct 14 14:08:22 moriah lpd[13367]: /dev/lp: No such file or directory > > on the console. When I try lpq, I get: > > unable to get hostname for remote machine 198.146.126.58 > Warning: no daemon present > > I am not sure what daemon is expected. (lpd is running.) I set the rm > parameter equal to the ip address in the printcap file (to feed into > netinfo), which worked for a linux box in a similar situation, but it didn't > work here. Otherwise I don't know what to try. Any ideas? I can't find any > info on this in the "Mixed Net" documentation or in NextAnswers. > > Cheers, > Don 1) Start NetInfoManager.app and add a new directory under /machines. 2) Edit the value of the name property to give the printer a hostname eg: myprinter 3) Add a new property named ip_address 4) Add new the value to this property and set the ip-address. 5) Save the modified directory 7) Start PrintManager.app 8) Create a new printer and choose HP JetDirect als the connectins port. 9) Type the name (myprinter) in the appering field. 10) Hit OK. Thats it. Carsten Gehle
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From: jamaro@home.com (Josue Emmanuel Amaro) Newsgroups: comp.os.mach,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mklinux on Nextstep/Openstep-for-Mach/Mach 2.5? Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:35:20 -0700 Organization: @Home Networks Message-ID: <jamaro-1410972135200001@c267632-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com> References: <60c0ud$loo$1@cronkite.cygnus.com> <163DF635AAA3537A.4A1CAA7053376E7A.DAEDEBDDC7D72534@library-proxy.airnews.net> <jamaro-0610972221490001@c267632-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com> <5lk9fme3ce.fsf@tequila.systemsz.cs.yale.edu> In article <5lk9fme3ce.fsf@tequila.systemsz.cs.yale.edu>, Stefan Monnier <monnier+comp/os/mach/news/@tequila.cs.yale.edu> wrote: > jamaro@home.com (Josue Emmanuel Amaro) writes: > > multiple personalities like mach3 does.(If I remember correctly ). Plus > > you would not need linux since you already get BSD 4.4. You may have to > > port some of your linux apps, but most likely that will be very easy. > > Do you think writing Linux was easy ? > BSD-4.4 existed way before Linux and people could have simply used FreeBSD > instead of working hard on that new Linux thingie. But no: why make it simple? > > > Stefan I did not mean to insult anyone for using linux. I was looking at it from the application side of things. I guess the point I was trying to make was that the fact that you may not be able to bring a Linux personality on top of Mach 2.5 should not be cause for alarm since you most likely will still be able to use most Unix type apps.
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation software for Openstep Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:58:32 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <34443F64.6E93@earthlink.net> References: <875503212.23723@dejanews.com> <61o6tk$q1i$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> mmalcolm crawford wrote: > I recently contacted a friend at Cam-Ani who tells me that a Rhapsody port > is *very unlikely*. This is sad indeed. Anyone who might be interested in > seeing this excellent app on Apple's new OS might consider contacting > Cambridge Animation (cf http://www.animo.com/ ) Yes, Yes!! Tell them...No...DEMAND "Animo" for Rhapsody! admin@cam-ani.co.uk STEVE K.
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From: oskar@medix.rhein-main.de (Oskar Oehling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: wanted: compose in colors for intel Date: 15 Oct 1997 08:55:24 GMT Organization: rhein-main.de im IN e.V. Message-ID: <6220ds$6rn$1@hermes.rhein-main.de> Keywords: cic I am looking for a full license of compose in colors for next/intel. please make offer. mail to: hermann@camera.rhein-main.de or oskar@medix.rhein-main.de Oskar -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($D@86T@;&]O:VEN M9R!F;W(@82!F=6QL(&QI8V5N<V4@;V8@8V]M<&]S92!I;B!C;VQO<G,@9F]R M(&YE>'0O:6YT96PN('!L96%S92!M86ME(&]F9F5R+EP*7`IM86EL('1O.B!H M97)M86YN0&-A;65R82YR:&5I;BUM86EN+F1E7`IO<EP*;W-K87)`;65D:7@N 9<FAE:6XM;6%I;BYD95P*7`I/<VMA<@I]"F1E `
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3D Graphics Packages? Date: 7 Oct 1997 18:07:19 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <61dton$1g3q$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Can anyone recommend a good 3D graphics package for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? I've heard of 3DReality, SolidThinking and Intuitiv3D. Any others? I've briefly looked at these three and they all seem to do most of what I want, except I have a _STRONG_ need for animation capabilities, which only SolidThinking seems to support. Can you do animation in 3DReality or Intuitiv3D with their API? (or more to the point, has anyone already written an API to do it, as I haven't that sort of time right now). Another problem is I don't know if Gestel (SolidThinking) or Cub'x (Intuitiv3D) are even still in the NeXT business or have a Rhapsody plan (I already lost out on my previous $ investment on Tesseract, which was beta and never properly finished :-(. So Stone's 3DReality is a littel more appealing because it has a better chance of making it to Rhapsody. I also checked out Geomview, which is a great app for what it is, but doesn't support the more advanced stuff 3D like texture mapping (did I say I need texture mapping too...) Any thoughts/recommendations? - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu
From: szallies@energotec.de (Constantin Szallies) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Lighthouse`s Javaplan.app not supported anymore? Date: 15 Oct 1997 08:07:37 GMT Organization: Technet GmbH Message-ID: <621tk9$ode$1@oxygen.technet.net> Does anyone know the status of Javaplan? The Lighthouse Webpage lists the application as "legacy"?????? Greetings -- # Constantin Szallies, Energotec GmbH # szallies@energotec.de # http://www.energotec.de/~szallies/ # 49211-9144018
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:21:08 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: 3D Graphics Packages? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <876910446.27871@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service I just got email from Alex Mazzardo at Gestel a couple of days ago and they are planning to support a Rhapsody version of SolidThinking. Jon Hooper -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: bhi1@ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next Software Question? Date: 10 Oct 1997 06:49:19 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <61kj5f$hh7@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> References: <MPG.ea1fb93dce68f599896fd@news.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <MPG.ea1fb93dce68f599896fd@news.supernews.com> Hello Alex: Check out http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ and ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/ Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993. On 10/05/97, Alex wrote: >Ok, I'm a Wintel Wussi-boy. > >However, I have came across a Next cube at a swap meet >for cheap money, and it was my dream machine not so many >years ago. > >Can someone tell me what were the last/current(?) >versions of graphics/drawing and DTP programs for the >machine? > >I'd like to get some software onto this puppy and do >something besides boot it up. > >Thanks! > -- Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
From: community@vvi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rhapsody Software List Date: 15 Oct 1997 12:44:35 GMT Organization: VVI Data Control Specialists Message-ID: <622drj$3a0$1@news2.digex.net> Originator: gsupport@ Rhapsody Software List VVI-DCS is maintaining a list of Rhapsody specific software solutions at: http://www.vvi.com/communityLinks.html Please visit that URL to see what software applications are running or are planned to run on Rhapsody, or to add your company's software solution to the list.
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: (Re)announce speak-freely for NS/OS Date: 15 Oct 1997 15:08:17 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <622m91$9c3$1@news.seicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Howdy! I just want to announce speak-freely, an Internet audio (phone) application with free clients for various UN*Xes and Windows 95/NT is now running on NeXTSTEP and OpenStep (and most likely on Rhapsody, the new Apple OS too). A changed version including NS/OS Intel binaries is available from Area 51: http://www.this.net/~frank/download.html Due to audio driver related circumstances it will run on NS/OS Intel hardware only in half duplex mode. Original m68k NeXT system can run it in full duplex too, SPARC and HPPA users should test it first in half duplex as I cannot say much about the behaviour of their particular hardware/drivers. This release has the audio interface in external helper programs, the sfmike and sfspeaker processes just run them and pipe the audio data back to them. This was done to make the interface more flexible and to resolve sudden deaths of the audio programs due to driver problems. Have a nice day Frank --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home „http://www.this.net/~frank
From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX under NeXTStep (was Re: Word wrapping) Date: 15 Oct 1997 14:48:37 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <622l45$pdh$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <vrotneyEI0tzw.GtA@netcom.com> <19971014191301.PAA28512@ladder02.news.aol.com> WillAdams (willadams@aol.com) wrote: If you stoop to *latex*, here's how to do it: >How does one use .EPS files? In your documentstyle tag, include "psfig". For example: \documentstyle[12pt,psfig,times]{article} Then include the eps file using something along the lines of: \mbox{\psfig{figure="foo.eps"}} For more information, check out psfig.sty. >Fonts other than CMR? In your documentstyle tag, include "times". This will change CMR to Times and sans serif to Helvetica. Doesn't change math fonts, tho. As in: \documentstyle[12pt,psfig,times]{article} _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: tfu@bigfoot.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Filtering spam e-mail Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:21:05 GMT Organization: Smoke'n Joy - The first virtual crematory Message-ID: <1997Oct14.192105.824@online.de> References: <61u15q$h7u$1@herald.Mines.EDU> <61usnk$b2p$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <61vn2c$mnb$1@news2.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: mikelea@nospam.digex.net In <61vn2c$mnb$1@news2.digex.net> Hippykill wrote: > >The best thing to do is checkout the procmail mailing list. > > > >% procmail -v > > I'm not sure of the procmail recipe, but my best success on > filtering spam has been to filter everything that doesn't have > my name in the To: field in the header. It gets 99% of the > spam... Yes, I have a procmail configuration which just does this. It is a little more advanced: * My mailaddress is not in the To: *and* Cc: header * mailinglists still pass through * Some notorious From: spammers added over time And another one: I use a bigfoot-address for all my usenet postings. bigfoot (and some other mailforwarders) can be configured using a spam-filter. Still about 2 spams a day come through. Procmail sends all spam-mails to a junk-mailbox for Nextmail. The whole solution is simple and very effective.
From: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu (Brian K. Meadows) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Filtering spam e-mail Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:26:54 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <3444fc6d.6811741@news.gatech.edu> References: <61u15q$h7u$1@herald.Mines.EDU> One thing I found effective (living in the EST zone) is to do a Whois on the ISP and phone them up (sometimes quite early) the administrative contact and register a complaint. I've had 100% success with this over the last two years. Also, some ISPs often get subscribers that sending mass emails that promote illegal activities, the typical being pyramid schemes. When I get spam from such a site I forward the message with a note to the state and local Attorney Generals Offices. Most states have email for the consumer fraud division. Brian Meadows
From: soonam@list.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: free cd-r sw ? Date: 15 Oct 1997 17:44:15 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax,VA Message-ID: <622vdf$n27@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you know public domain cd-r software for NeXTStep ? <Soonam>
From: Jeff Bishop <jbsh@SNIPTHISti.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.mach,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mklinux on Nextstep/Openstep-for-Mach/Mach 2.5? Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 13:50:05 -0600 Organization: Texas Instruments Message-ID: <343D3564.89B84496@SNIPTHISti.com> References: <60c0ud$loo$1@cronkite.cygnus.com> <163DF635AAA3537A.4A1CAA7053376E7A.DAEDEBDDC7D72534@library-proxy.airnews.net> <jamaro-0610972221490001@c267632-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > NeXT's version is Mach 2.5.X which does not support > multiple personalities like mach3 does.(If I remember correctly ). Plus > you would not need linux since you already get BSD 4.4. Good point. > > If they move to Mach 3 ( which I really do not think will happen due to > commercial reasons, i.e. the code is available in the public domain ) then > it would be possible, but then again I will have to wonder why you would > want to do it. 'nuff said. :) Jeff Bishop
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: compiled Samba binaries Date: 16 Oct 1997 00:38:56 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <623nn0$jsb$1@news.seicom.net> References: <01bcd9b7$cf9dd040$03ac2ac0@cupertino> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: heatht@mindspring.com In <01bcd9b7$cf9dd040$03ac2ac0@cupertino> "Heath Tucker" wrote: > Can anyone point me to the NS compiled Samba binaries? It was on someone's > list of NEXTSTEP apps but I can't remember whose. I had a bookmark for a > long time but can't find it now. Thanks in advance. > > Heath Tucker > see my home page... in the download area -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Elm with MIME support? Date: 16 Oct 1997 00:55:42 GMT Message-ID: <623ome$k98$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> A visitor to my lab would like to use elm (with MIME support) when connecting from home to the NeXT Color Turbo on his desk in the lab. However, the version of elm I have (elm2.4pl23) doesn't seem to have MIME support. I downloaded the source, and tried to compile elm2.4pl25 with MIME support, but the compilation process broke down as it was trying to compile lib/mpcrt.c (it says that va_alist is undefined, and including the definition of va_alist from Headers/bsd/m68k/varargs.h doesn't seem to work). Does anyone have elm2.4 compiled with with MIME support turned on? Thanks, Ed --- Edward N. Zalta Senior Researcher, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html -- Edward N. Zalta Senior Researcher, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19971016.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19971009.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19971002.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 Oct 1997 03:00:00 +0100 Organization: Private System, London SW19, UK Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Sep-02 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-Oct-09 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets can be found on the Internet: <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: ogihara@seg.kobe-u.ac.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image conversion from PNG to TIFF? Date: 16 Oct 97 16:05:59 Organization: Kobe University Message-ID: <ogihara.97Oct1616559@celesta> References: <612rb8$ns0@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <612tnk$dvv@crcnis3.unl.edu> <613bjq$2rp$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain In <613bjq$2rp$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > > Yep, try ToyViewer 2.6. > > > > Would you be kind to point out where one could GET ToyViewer Ver2.6? > > I did a little snooping around and found the main ftp site > > ftp://tuba.csedu.kobe-u.ac.jp/pub/NEXTSTEP/ > > However, getting a connection was difficult, and download was relatively > slow. Try this URL: http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~hq2t-oghr/ The Latest version of ToyViewer is 2.6a. I'm now trying to convert it for OPENSTEP, but it's hard job... BTW, does anyone know new DIB(BMP) format, which allows 15 or 16 bits color images? Where can I get the technical information? --ogihara--
From: Charles Bennett <chuck@benatong.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Benatong / Power Guardian, Gone? Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 01:13:07 +0200 Organization: BenaTong Message-ID: <34454E03.7C7D3AC0@benatong.com> References: <3442b3e9.540954@news.enteract.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nope, We are still here working on the Rhapsody port. beta soon. Our ISP should be "gone" though :-) Our gateway through the local ISP has been going up and down more than the stockmarket. email to chuck@benatong.com info.. sales.. etc should work just fine. On 10/15 and 10/16 we will be upgrading the servers, so we will be at the mercy of the upgrade gods for those days.. Chuck chuck@benatong.com
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From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image conversion from PNG to TIFF? Date: 16 Oct 1997 13:00:47 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <62535v$42p$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <612rb8$ns0@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <612tnk$dvv@crcnis3.unl.edu> <613bjq$2rp$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <ogihara.97Oct1616559@celesta> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ogihara@seg.kobe-u.ac.jp In <ogihara.97Oct1616559@celesta> ogihara@seg.kobe-u.ac.jp wrote: > In <613bjq$2rp$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > However, getting a connection was difficult, and download was relatively > > slow. > > Try this URL: > http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~hq2t-oghr/ Wow! Zippee! Thanks for the URL > The Latest version of ToyViewer is 2.6a. It's now on PEAK too.... > I'm now trying to convert it for OPENSTEP, but it's hard job... I'm assuming 2.6a still runs on NeXTStep.... > BTW, does anyone know new DIB(BMP) format, which allows 15 or 16 > bits color images? Where can I get the technical information? I do not know, sorry TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: compiled Samba binaries Date: 16 Oct 1997 12:44:24 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <625278$42p$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <01bcd9b7$cf9dd040$03ac2ac0@cupertino> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: heatht@mindspring.com In <01bcd9b7$cf9dd040$03ac2ac0@cupertino> "Heath Tucker" wrote: > Can anyone point me to the NS compiled Samba binaries? http://www.this.net/~frank/ TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: leibel@mr.net (Daryl Leibel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Openstep 4.0 or Rhapsody ? Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:16:37 -0600 Organization: MRNet Internet Services Message-ID: <leibel-1610970816390001@picasso.artscience.com> I'm very interested in getting Openstep or Rhapsody up and running and have the Openstep 4.0 CD-ROM but no boot floppies except for Openstep 4.2. I tried using the 4.2 boot floppy and putting device drivers into the /Devices folder on the 4.1 Additional Drivers disk but to no avail. I've tried mailing NeXT several times but get no reply on how to get boot floppies even if fax a photocopy of the CD sort of like upgrades go sometimes. If anyone is willing to mail me images in ANY format (compressed, non-compressed, diskdup, diskcopy, etc) I'd be very grateful. Otherwise could someone outline the steps and cost necessary to become an apple developer so I could get my hands on Rhapsody? - daryl (leibel@mr.net)
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MailViewer.app Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:08:50 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <34461FF1.1088@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So what's the scoop on MailViewer.app for Rhapsody? How do you like it so far? Any improvements over Mail.app? Can't wait for the USER release!!! STEVE K.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: PPP using MultiTech Modem??? Message-ID: <EI5Htr.C7G@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:32:14 GMT I just wonder if anyone have had any success using the MultiTech modem working with PPP2.x?? It's a 28.8 FAX modem with black NeXT with NS3.3 and PPP2.3. The simple dialup scripts work fine with Zyxel 1496 modem. I could get the MultiTech modem up running, but it either drops or gets blocked after few minutes. Everything seems from looking at ppp.log file. Is there anything special about the PIP setup or modem initialization strings? Thank JP for his help..
From: jray@bigmac.ag.ohio-state.edu (John Ray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rhapsody DR1 - anyone receive it yet? Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:39:12 -0400 Organization: OSU Extension Message-ID: <jray-1610971239120001@primal.ag.ohio-state.edu> Hello all, Sorry for the question, but has anyone received their developer version of Rhapsody yet? I joined the developer program in May, and *just* got things worked out to the point of receiving the advanced seeding messages last week. It has been nothing less than a nightmare in terms of getting information sent to me correctly. I was told that I should be receiving the seeding CD a few weeks ago, but I never did. By some miracle, I do get the standard monthly mailings. I've signed NDAs twice, have my address and seeding status confirmed multiple times, but I'm not overly optimistic that DR1 will make it to me without much more complaining to devsupport/devseed :( At any rate, I'd just like an overall idea of whether or not it has arrived in the boxes of other developers - if everyone else has it, I'd better get on the phone. Thanks for your time, John Ray OSU Sys Dev/Eng.
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX under NeXTStep (was Re: Word wrapping) Date: 16 Oct 1997 16:36:54 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <625fr6$6r3$1@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <vrotneyEI0tzw.GtA@netcom.com> <19971014191301.PAA28512@ladder02.news.aol.com> <620isf$q80$3@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nospam@ried_at_mpip-mainz.mpg.de In <620isf$q80$3@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> nospam@ried_at_mpip-mainz.mpg.de wrote: .. % I recommand to use the tetex and not the old tex included by NeXT. % Have a look at Gregor's page: % % http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX/ I tried installing the new texlive2 CD, but I had to return to the previous texlive1 due to problems with TeXView.app. Did you/anyone have a similar experience ? --------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (mailto:antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ---------------------------------------------------------
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation software for Openstep Date: 11 Oct 1997 15:44:52 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <61o6tk$q1i$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <875503212.23723@dejanews.com> In-Reply-To: <875503212.23723@dejanews.com> On 09/29/97, hoops@cbc.net wrote: >For 2-D animation (ink and paint, compositing, vector animation) ANIMO >runs on Nextstep (So it should run on anything up to Openstep 4.2) >although it is not being ported to Rhapsody as far as I know. > I recently contacted a friend at Cam-Ani who tells me that a Rhapsody port is *very unlikely*. This is sad indeed. Anyone who might be interested in seeing this excellent app on Apple's new OS might consider contacting Cambridge Animation (cf http://www.animo.com/ ) Best wishes, mmalc.
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image conversion from PNG to TIFF? Date: 11 Oct 1997 15:29:05 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <61o601$pme$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <612dio$m5j$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <612dio$m5j$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> On 10/03/97, William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote: >Does anybody have a free app or code that will convert PNG image format to >TIFF (or anything else)? Thanks. > Others have mentioned ToyViewer etc and the PBM tools; I'll vouch for both, however if you're wanting to do a lot of conversions, or have control over esoteric options like gamma values, the PBM tools are probably the most useful. Bill Bumgarner kindly put together a package containing the full suite called "imagetools": ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/converters/ imagetools2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz My (now rather old) pages on Creating WWW sites using NEXTSTEP: http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm/NEXTSTEP/WWW/ may be of use too. (Looking at them again, in retrospect the title bar design was "interesting" :-) Best wishes, mmalc.
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3D Graphics Packages? Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 09:08:35 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <343FA480.7B06@earthlink.net> References: <61dton$1g3q$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good 3D graphics package for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? > I've heard of 3DReality, SolidThinking and Intuitiv3D. Any others? I don't know of any others. OS Rumors has Electric Image and Cinema 4D (which can load and render Lightwave scenes faster that EI) listed as possible Rhapsody ports though. They used to have Alias/Wavefront listed but it's gone now. Apparently that will be a native NT port only, not an NT through Yellow Box port as I had hoped. I still haven't heard of any OpenGL support announced for Rhapsody. Has anyone heard any mor info concerning Open GL? Apple could really make Rhapsody the 3D platform of choice if they pushed it. I hope they do. STEVE K.
From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> Subject: single multi-page from multiple doc Organization: GENIFI Message-ID: <#FSbeMm28GA.222@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:41:28 -0400 I'm looking for an application which can permit to fax or to print in a few work some documents. I need to print or fax sometime 30 to 100 pages which are made with different apps (eg TIFF, WriteUp or Openwrite, Quantrix, ...) and I'll love to have different configurations of what I have to fax or print. I have found PageChain which permit to do the following : A PageChain document create links to the source document. It's a multi-page document which contain separate documents. Is it available ? The only adress that I have is not in use : Pinnacle Research, Inc (+1) 602-529-1135 (+1) 602-299-9133 fax info@pri.com If you know how to buy it or if a new App is able to do the same thing I will be interested. Best regards. Yves Pons
From: sanchez@sol.slu.edu (Prof. Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Blue Sky PS Fonts and TeX Date: 17 Oct 1997 13:49:12 -0500 Organization: Me, organized? You must be joking. Message-ID: <m2k9fcjkd3.fsf@sol.slu.edu> References: <343E44EC.A31CDC3C@ti.com> Let me just interject here that the Blue Sky PS fonts are available as NeXT font files in an installer package at: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/fonts/tex/BlueSkyFonts.tar.gz The installer package does setup of the NeXTstep <= 3.3 versions of TeX to make use of these fonts. If teTeX uses the same configuration files, the package should work for it as well. -- --paul PGP key at http://spectrum.slu.edu/~paul/ ================================================================ "Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on." -- Churchill ================================================================
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <10325876024022@digifix.com> Date: 12 Oct 1997 03:49:09 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <4564876628829@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Epson Color Stylus X00 update From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <343fd726.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 11 Oct 97 19:44:38 GMT Hi all, A bunch have asked me to update them on my findings of getting the new Epson Color Stylus printers working with NeXT/OPENSTEP/Rhapsody. Well, here's the latest to date. I tried the alignment configuration with JetPilot2.3. And no dice, I get almost one page printed perfectly, and the rest gets mangled; (the printer just starts printing blank pages and wont stop till it's turned off). I have a couple of leads. One is Ghostscript drivers might exist. The other is eXTRAPRINT by GSCorp which no longer seems to be around. One other thing might be asking the JetPilot folks to update their driver for the new epsons since there seems to be quite some interest; their driver seems to ALMOST work, except for eating the bottom of the page and then printing out all those blank pages... At least 4 others have sent me email asking about any info because they want to use the new epson printers. Maybe if we can promise them X number of licenses they might consider updating it? Denis Gesbert pointed out where Ghostscript drivers maybe found: „http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ I haven't tried to install it yet, but I didn't see any of the new epsons supported by it on the site. Maybe there is a more up to date version, or a place with new drivers for ghostscript that can be applied to the NeXT version? If anyone knows, please let me know. I haven't been able to locate a current version of eXTRAPRINT either. The current version is 2.1, but the version on the NeXT archives (that I've been able to locate) is 1.0 (which is too old). I have a *partial* copy of eXTRAPRINT 2.1 for my (now also dead) NeXT Color Printer. However, some of it's files have been overwritten by DOTs when I installed it. So if anyone knows where a copy might be found, please let me know. One thing that is a little suboptimal about all the above solutions is the new Epsons under windows or macOS allow you to select a paper type. What this does is control the amount of ink used depending on the paper. I believe eXTRAPRINT allows for this, but don't think the other's do...but heck, at this point I'd be willing to deal with the less optimal solution. The output that I have seen from the JetPilot driver has been just fantastic and fast, even if not optimized. Hope that helps, and if anyone finds something out, please let me know and I'll provide further updates for folks. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
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From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MIDI HW/SW quest Date: 11 Oct 1997 19:25:09 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <61ojql$3ho$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <ptf-0810971654300001@1cust85.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: ptf@earthlink.com In <ptf-0810971654300001@1cust85.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net> Pat Finnigan wrote: > NeXTers: > I'm looking for sources for sequencing software for the NeXT platform. > I cannot find ANYTHING out there. Are there any commercially available > packages? > And are there any MIDI interfaces for the NeXT serial (mini din 8) ports? > Any/all help would be gratefully appreciated. > 8v) patf > newbie NeXTer > Hi ! I have a Circuit diagram (quite simple, even though I haven't yet tried to build it myself) for a MIDI interface, which AFAIK can be found at the usual ftp sites under "documents". If you can't acces the sites,or can't find it I could email it to you Adios Martin
From: paul@softland.demon.co.uk (Paul Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: A good comms program? Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:48:46 GMT Message-ID: <3448854f.71738@news.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to transfer files as fast as possible over a serial connection between a machine running openstep and a laptop running win95. Can anyone recommend the best comms program for openstep for doing this? I just need high speed zmodem file xfer. Thanks. Paul
From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Changing data object associations Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:18:55 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.971018191232.13919A-100000@saul9.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros Predicate: Whose triangle is it? I installed TIFFany II the other day, and it grabbed file opening priorities from OmniImage, meaning that now if I open a, say, .jpeg file from the Worksapce, TIFFany is launched. This is not what I want to happen. I usually want to only view the image, and fast is good, so I want OmniImage to launch instead, as it did before I installed TIFFany. Similarly, .snd files are launching MMP.app (which is great for MPEGs) but I want the standard audio player to play them, as it once did before MMP was installed. I'm fairly certain there's a way to change the file associations back. Reinstalling the applications wouldn't work, I'd suspect. Plus, I tried it with OmniImage, and it didn't work. (: Please respond via email; my news access will be sporadic to non-existant in the next few weeks. Thanks. ok -r
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP: Freezing when scrolling Date: 18 Oct 1997 14:32:57 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <62ahap$6c8$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <344a3bab.1242306@news.oanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jking@oznewmedia.com [posted to one of the newsgroups, since it happens SO often] Please read http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html on how to post to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups. Crossposting is unnecessary, and re-posting the same message to various newsgroups is bad bad bad as it sends 3 copies of the same message across the 'net, is NOT caught by newsreaders which can catch crossposts, and can result in duplicate replies to your query. If you must crosspost (ie post to several newsgroups in the same message) PLEASE make sure to set a Followups-To line, which will ensure that all replies are focussed in the same newsgroup. This will help make sure there is no duplication of answers. There are few things more frustrating than taking the time to thoroughly answer a question, only to go to another newsgroup and find the message re-posted there, and a sufficient answer already provided. TjL
From: ried@nospam.mpip-mainz.mpg.de (Stefan Ried,1.405,+49-6131-379-267) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Blue Sky PS Fonts and TeX Date: 18 Oct 1997 16:32:38 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <62aob6$iun$1@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> References: <343E44EC.A31CDC3C@ti.com> <m2k9fcjkd3.fsf@sol.slu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: sanchez@sol.slu.edu, flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de, frank@this.net In <m2k9fcjkd3.fsf@sol.slu.edu> Prof. Paul J. Sanchez wrote: > Let me just interject here that the Blue Sky PS fonts are available as > NeXT font files in an installer package at: > > ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/fonts/tex/BlueSkyFonts.tar.gz > I've downloaded these fonts and included the file psfonts.map just at the end of my old fonts.map (in /tetex/tex/texmf/dvips/misc). This changes the behavior of dvips to include the new PS fonts instead of generating bitmapfonts. It really works great and makes good pdf files with PStill.app (Frank great!). No problems with tetex's TeXView (kpsearch 2.5) ! Unfortuately if I just want to print to my postscript laser printer I'd like to get the old behavior of dvips again. How can I get once PS and once bitmap fonts without changing the file fonts.map everytime ??? The best would be an option to dvips to specify the right fonts.map on the commandline. May be -P ... and the right thing in config.... ??? I use dvips (dvipsk 5.58f). Thanks in advance. Stefan -- _____________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G.\ |E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME/NeXT welcome) | |Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 __/___/ | |Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| |WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried \_/ \_/| | There are only three types of computer users: | | Those that use NeXTs. Those that wished they used NeXTs. | | Those that don't know what they are missing. | \_____________________________________________________________________/
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Changing data object associations Date: 18 Oct 1997 22:34:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <62c649$d3f@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.96.971018191232.13919A-100000@saul9.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kjaeros@u.washington.edu In <Pine.OSF.3.96.971018191232.13919A-100000@saul9.u.washington.edu> Ray Stricklin wrote: > > I installed TIFFany II the other day, and it grabbed file opening > priorities from OmniImage, meaning that now if I open a, say, .jpeg file > from the Worksapce, TIFFany is launched. This is not what I want to > happen. I usually want to only view the image, and fast is good, so I want > OmniImage to launch instead, as it did before I installed TIFFany. > Try Workspace->Tools->Inspector (or hit Command-3) and the inspector panel pops up. Click once on the item you want to open, just to highlight it, and the inspector will show the default app that will open the file. Click once on the app you want to open it with in the inspector window, and click on "Set Default." -- //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MIDI HW/SW quest References: <ptf-0810971654300001@1cust85.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net> From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <343c1516.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 8 Oct 97 23:19:50 GMT ptf@earthlink.com (Pat Finnigan) wrote: > NeXTers: > I'm looking for sources for sequencing software for the NeXT > platform. I cannot find ANYTHING out there. Are there any > commercially available packages? > And are there any MIDI interfaces for the NeXT serial (mini din > 8) ports? Any/all help would be gratefully appreciated. 8v) patf > newbie NeXTer Well, try ccrma for starters at: ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/NeXT I'm sure they have a web site too... Also, there is a neet app on the archives by the name of MMP. Below is the info file from it....it lets you play all of those cool .mp3 files (that are likely huge copyright violations...but I digress :). (Oh and please don't ask me where to get MMP, because I have no idea where i got it from ): Minimal Media Player plays MOD, MPEG I Layer 1,2,3, MIDI and plain 'snd' format audio files in real time. MPEG and MIDI only if you have a fast machine. Please read the useage guidelines as written below in BIG letters such as IF YOU LIKE IT FEEL FREE TO SEND ME A BOTTLE OF SCOTCH WHISKY! :-) MMP does not use the synthesizer on the audio card, all sound rendering is done by MMP or its helper programs and the precalculated digital audio stream is then send to the audio card. The 'snd' interface uses a different approach then the NeXT build in sndplay programs, it is able to play sounds of arbitrary length. Just drag a file to the control window to play it -mod files must have the postfix '.mod' -mpeg files must have the postfix '.mp1', '.mp2' or '.mp3' -midi files must have the postfix '.mid' or '.midi' -snd files must have the postfix '.snd' Please note that this program uses code from several public available packages or the packages itself and is subject to certain restrictions: MOD playing is done by using the code from tracker 4.3, Copyright (c) by Mark Espie. You can get the source from http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/espie/amiga.html „ MIDI rendering is done by timidity Version 0.2i Copyright (C) 1995 Tuukka Toivonen <toivonen@clinet.fi>. Its source can be found here: http://www.clinet.fi/~toivonen/timidity/ „ MPEG audio decoding by mpg123 written/modfied by: Michael Hipp (email: Michael.Hipp@student.uni-tuebingen.de) Philipp Knirsch (email: phil@mpik-tueb.mpg.de) You may get the original LINUX source from http://www.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de/~hipp/mpg123.html „ NeXT frontend partly Copyright (c) by Frank Siegert 1997 (email: frank@this.net, http://www.this.net/~frank/) „ Lyra image taken from the next-icon@gun.com Icon collection from the internet as available on the ftp archive peanuts.leo.org and the Big Green CD. „ Installation: Copy MMP.app to your /LocalApps or ~App directory. To get MIDI up and running you'll need the Midi patch files. Since this is quite a lot data (8 MByte compressed) it is not included in the distribution. Please look on the timidity page for it. You'll need to copy the uncompressed patches (!) to the patch directory in the App wrapper, and update your timidity.cfg (also in the app wrapper) file to reflect the settings. A full featured patch set is available at ftp://archive.cs.umbc.edu/pub/midia/instruments.tar.gz unpack it to MMP.app/patch and up you go. Planned inprovements - Playing from an URL - RealAudio support (if the format ever gets documented) - More sound formats ('wav' with ADPCM support) Troubleshooting: Some debugging output is still going to console, so you can see what this program is doing. If you experience buffer underruns (sound drops) try to switch off stereo. If you experience distorted sound output on 44.1 kHz, stop the play and restart. This will normalize the play thread. At the moment mpeg output is always set to 44.1kHz (no 48 kHz yet). So you will hear 48kHz mpeg sounds a bit slower then normal. If the MPEG routines encounters corrupted data the program is exited at once. THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL PRODUCT NOR SHOULD IT BE USED OR NAMED AS SUCH. THE TITLE 'MMP' IS ONLY USED FOR IDENTIFICATION PURPOSES. THIS APPLICATION MAY NOT BE SOLD OR OTHERWISE GIVEN AWAY FOR MONEY. IT MAY NOT BE INCLUDED IN A COMMERCIAL PRODUCT. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE IT IN A COMMERCIAL ENVIRONMENT OR FOR ANY PURPOSE YOU'LL GET PAID FOR. ONLY PRIVATE USE OR FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES IS ACCEPTABLE. IT MAY NOT BE MOVED ON A PUBLIC CDROM COLLECTION WITHOUT THE WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE AUTOR. WARNING: THIS IS A HACK. YOU ARE WORKING AT YOUR OWN RISK. IF THIS PROGRAM BURNS YOUR HARDDISK, COMPUTER, SPEAKERS, CAT, HOUSE OR CAR (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO) YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO GIVE THE BLAME. IF YOU LIKE IT FEEL FREE TO SEND ME A BOTTLE OF SCOTCH WHISKY! ALL TRADEMARKS IN THIS TEXT AND PROGRAM ARE ONLY USED FOR IDENTIFICATION PURPOSE. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody DR1 - anyone receive it yet? Date: 18 Oct 97 17:16:15 -0500 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <B06EA1CB-127DA@141.214.128.36> References: <628hp9$rdi$5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jrk4583@ibm.net Not yet, and even if we did, we couldn't talk about it. ;-) (we expect it to arrive at the beginning of this week). rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> <http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #17: "What's with him? I haven't seen him this happy since he had his picture taken at the auto show with Adam West." -Bob Elliott about son Chris Elliott in "The Prettiest Week of My Life"
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 05:01:09 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re:checking on status of apps for Rhapsody ? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <877255016.15385@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service Robert wrote: > Just a quick one - has anyone heard of any of these NS > programs moving along onto Rhapsody? or is it RhapStep? > > Netsurfer SuperDraw Virtuoso > > or any of the Lighthouse apps - Diagram, WetPaint, etc. or > the 3D apps from Gestel > Don't know about Netsurfer SuperDraw no word yet but I would bet they are Virtuoso - Is Freehand on Mac so eventually will come over The Lighthouse apps are dead as far as I know (java versions may be done) A Diagram type app is already announced for Premiere release, Tiffany3 will be the image editing app of choice. Gestel have not announced publicly but I've heard that they will be moving Solidthinking to Rhapsody. hoops -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: Stefan Monnier <monnier+comp/os/mach/news/@tequila.cs.yale.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.mach,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mklinux on Nextstep/Openstep-for-Mach/Mach 2.5? Date: 09 Oct 1997 22:53:05 -0400 Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Sender: monnier@tequila.systemsz.cs.yale.edu Message-ID: <5lk9fme3ce.fsf@tequila.systemsz.cs.yale.edu> References: <60c0ud$loo$1@cronkite.cygnus.com> <163DF635AAA3537A.4A1CAA7053376E7A.DAEDEBDDC7D72534@library-proxy.airnews.net> <jamaro-0610972221490001@c267632-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com> jamaro@home.com (Josue Emmanuel Amaro) writes: > multiple personalities like mach3 does.(If I remember correctly ). Plus > you would not need linux since you already get BSD 4.4. You may have to > port some of your linux apps, but most likely that will be very easy. Do you think writing Linux was easy ? BSD-4.4 existed way before Linux and people could have simply used FreeBSD instead of working hard on that new Linux thingie. But no: why make it simple? Stefan
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: free cd-r sw ? Date: 15 Oct 1997 17:49:58 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <622vo7$nke$1@news.seicom.net> References: <622vdf$n27@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: soonam@list.gmu.edu In <622vdf$n27@portal.gmu.edu> Soonam Kahng wrote: > > Do you know public domain cd-r software for NeXTStep ? > See nxcdwrite on my home page in the download area. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <4564876628829@digifix.com> Date: 19 Oct 1997 03:48:52 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <21870877233630@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. 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Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: free cd-r sw ? Date: 18 Oct 1997 23:44:28 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <62bhks$hg7$1@news.seicom.net> References: <622vdf$n27@portal.gmu.edu> <622vo7$nke$1@news.seicom.net> <34470D30.931682C5@codebox.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: stoll@codebox.de In <34470D30.931682C5@codebox.de> Markus Stoll wrote: > > > Do you know public domain cd-r software for NeXTStep ? > > See nxcdwrite on my home page in the download area. > See AerePerennius on peanuts.leo.org Yes! Check it out, it is a great tool! -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: nn compilation failed, where can I find binary ? Date: 18 Oct 1997 23:57:36 GMT Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK Message-ID: <62bidg$s5f@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> I tried to compile nn-6.4.18 and nn-6.5.0.b3 . Both were failed, can you give me some hints for the compilation ? Or can you tell me where can I find the binary ? Thanks in advance Mr.Sai-Kee Wong
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Whereis Tailor & Virtuoso? Date: 19 Oct 1997 01:35:38 GMT Message-ID: <19971019013500.VAA01924@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <629jaa$4ka$1@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu> As I've noted here recently, Macromedia nee Altsys isn't selling Virtuoso, and isn't moving overly fast towards making Freehand (which is what Virtuoso became) into a Rhapsody program. I'm not even sure if GSCorp can sell Virtuoso anymore. It's not been mentioned at all on their web site the last few times I've looked. Lighthouse's release of the license strings was a rather singular situation. NV is still selling Tailor for Macs, and so, has to keep up the value of that product. Altsys hasn't sold Virtuoso for years, and I don't think GSCorp has offered it for a while now either. Moreover, Lighthouse was forced to rescind their offer (or at least their web pages) when one of their distributors complained. The information is all still up at Peak as far as I know. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: single multi-page from multiple doc Message-ID: <EI9Jwv.GuL@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <#FSbeMm28GA.222@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:07:43 GMT In article <#FSbeMm28GA.222@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com> Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> writes: > I'm looking for an application which can permit to fax or to print > in a few work some documents. I need to print or fax sometime 30 > to 100 pages which are made with different apps (eg TIFF, WriteUp > or Openwrite, Quantrix, ...) and I'll love to have different > configurations of what I have to fax or print. I have found > PageChain which permit to do the following : A PageChain document > create links to the source document. It's a multi-page document > which contain separate documents. > I run CollagistPRO by SmartSoft that does exactly what you want. No info on availability, though. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Amscray <gansen@arthur.avalon.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP/CSLIP/TTYDSP/Routing Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:08:07 -0500 Organization: Avalon Networks Inc. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.971019115331.24759B-100000@arthur.avalon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK. I use Vicom Internet Gateway on my Mac along with ethernet to do routing and gateway stuff for my NeXT. I run it over a 56k x2 modem and actually get 4-5k/sec downloads usually this way. However, Vicom's software is kludgy. I don't like it. It doesn't...well, I just don't like the interface, who cares why. Anyway, it also means that the NeXT is firewalled which I dislike. So, first, if anyone knows how I can do settings under VIG that allow people to telnet to/etc the NeXT which is behind the dialing-up Mac, lemme know. That might be a good start. More to the point, however, is that I want to start making the NeXT dial. What hardware/software would I need to start PPP or CSLIP (payware?)? I have heard that if I want to do CSLP I need a TTYDSP adaptor which I am willing to get. I am also aware that the NeXT's serial port is only supposedly 38.4, but this does not matter as I really am tired of VIG. In addition to getting the NeXT to dial up, I also want it to do routing over my network for my Mac. The Mac does not need to be reachable by the outside nearly as much, and I figure the NeXT would be better suited to gateway/routing stuff anyway. So, any info on any of these topics is appreciated. --Chris _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Gansen gansen@avalon.net http://www.avalon.net/~gansen
From: isor@ripco.com (chiroptera) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone In Chicago with 3.2 user? Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:31:05 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <344c2f51.2316917@news.enteract.com> is there anyone in chicago that i could barrow 3.2 from? have 3.1 now but am under the impression much more software would run on my next if i had 3.2 ps - i can lend 3.1 user to anyone in chicago... i am in evanston (almost) -eric thanx you.
From: "Heath Tucker" <heatht@mindspring.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: compiled Samba binaries Date: 15 Oct 1997 22:28:34 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <01bcd9b7$cf9dd040$03ac2ac0@cupertino> Can anyone point me to the NS compiled Samba binaries? It was on someone's list of NEXTSTEP apps but I can't remember whose. I had a bookmark for a long time but can't find it now. Thanks in advance. Heath Tucker
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PPP/CSLIP/TTYDSP/Routing Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 19 Oct 1997 22:47:15 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <62e2lj$j$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <Pine.HPP.3.96.971019115331.24759B-100000@arthur.avalon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gansen@avalon.net NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE [posted to Usenet groups, since this happens so often] You posted the same message to two newsgroups within comp.sys.next.*. Had they been crossposted (ie both copies posted at the same time in the same message) many newsreaders would have caught them, and people would only have to see it once. You also did not direct followups to one newsgroup, or to yourself via email, which means there is a good chance folks will duplicate efforts to answer your question. I can understand why you might not know which group is the right one to post this, software or hardware. However, crossposting the message and setting a Followups-To line would have given you the chance to say: ``I'm not sure which group to post this to, so I've posted it to both. Please send replies to csn.software''. http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html is an excellent guide to what newsgroups are for what questions. Also, this question is an FAQ.... I'm not sure if it is IN the FAQ however as it is a little lacking in places (I've been meaning to help the effort and haven't, so it's not that it is someone else's fault...)... however you might have checked www.dejanews.com for similar articles. Anyway, that said, I might as well do what I can to start an answer. > However, Vicom's software is kludgy. I don't like it. It doesn't...well, I > just don't like the interface, who cares why. Anyway, it also means that > the NeXT is firewalled which I dislike. So, first, if anyone knows how I > can do settings under VIG that allow people to telnet to/etc the NeXT > which is behind the dialing-up Mac, lemme know. That might be a good > start. Unless the NeXT has a static, Internet registered IP address, people will not be able to access it from the Internet directly. > More to the point, however, is that I want to start making the NeXT dial. > What hardware/software would I need to start PPP or CSLIP (payware?)? I > have heard that if I want to do CSLP I need a TTYDSP adaptor which I am > willing to get. I am also aware that the NeXT's serial port is only > supposedly 38.4, but this does not matter as I really am tired of VIG. You are asking several different questions here. All you need is a modem and the right serial cable (checkout www.orb.com and/or www.deepspacetech.com... they are $25 and you cannot just use a Mac cable even though it looks like it would fit). You also need some program to talk to your modem. Sadist and other vi users will tell you to use 'tip' or 'cu'. I'd rather eat broken glass and spagetti over my open computer case plugged right into the wall without a surge protector in the middle of a thunderstorm while having nails driven through my eyes.... so I'd suggest getting something like 'kermit' which you can find at: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/comm/kermit.6.0.192.NIHS.bs.tar.gz which you will only need for the inital setup. Then you'd want something like PPP from ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ppp/ppp.2.3b3.NIHS.b.tar.gz it has a `chat' program which is what you will want to use eventually INSTEAD of kermit, but kermit is helpful in the initial stages. SLIP under NS is a more difficult process, and the TTYDSP adaptor may not be worth the time & effort.... I'm not sure how that works, I only used PPP myself. Anyway, once you download the PPP software and install it (which is a process in itself) then you will need to work on a ``chat script''. This is the script which actually connects to your ISP, which is challenging, to say the least. You'll also need to know things like whether or not they require PAP or CHAP authentication. There is a mailing list/support group ;-) for PPP under NeXT which is hosted by peak.org. send a message to 'majordomo@peak.org' with the BODY of the message as subscribe nextppp which is a better place to ask these types of questions about PPP > In addition to getting the NeXT to dial up, I also want it to do routing > over my network for my Mac. The Mac does not need to be reachable by the > outside nearly as much, and I figure the NeXT would be better suited to > gateway/routing stuff anyway. So, any info on any of these topics is > appreciated. The NeXT cannot do 'ip masquerading' if that is what you mean... or at least I don't know how... perhaps it can..... well, anyway, that's another question. Well that's a start at least. Good luck TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: andersonjeff@usa.net (Paul) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,isu.market,news.software.b,comp.sys.next.software,misc.forsale.computers.discussion,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.software,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.software,misc.forsale.non-computer,us.forsale.computers,us.forsale.d,us.forsale.misc,comp.sys.newton.marketplace Subject: Latest!Cheap Software for moving sale! Date: Mon, 20 Oct 97 01:14:27 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <62eb9l$1h6$1@news.iastate.edu> Adobe photoshop 3.05 Harvard graphics 3.0 Adobe maker 6 Paint shop Pro 3 Kai's Power tools 3 ALDUS Pagemaker 5 $45 Acad13c4 Design3d Abel5 Mathcad6 Orcad.60 Protel15.pcb Turbocad.203 3dstudio.max $45 Adobe photoshop 4 Microstation 95 R2 Adobe framemaker 5.1 Hijaak Pro4.0 for win95/NT Kai's Powertools 3.02 $40 Kurzweil Voice rel2.0 for win95 Janna Contact Manager for win95 MSmoney 97 Lotus SmartSuite 97 EXtra!version 6.3 32 bit (x-windows from PC to workstation) Visaul dBASE Pro 5.5a for win95 MS Visual Fox Pro 5.0 $45
From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Whereis Tailor & Virtuoso? Date: 21 Oct 1997 00:14:54 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <62gs5u$gs8$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <629jaa$4ka$1@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu> <19971019013500.VAA01924@ladder02.news.aol.com> WillAdams (willadams@aol.com) wrote: >As I've noted here recently, Macromedia nee Altsys isn't selling Virtuoso, and > isn't moving overly fast towards making Freehand (which is what Virtuoso > became) into a Rhapsody program. I've seen this only too many times now. Far as I know, Freehand *predates* Virtuoso by several years. Altsys wrote Freehand for Aldus (now Adobe). *Then* Altsys wrote Virtuoso for NeXTSTEP. _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: simple [Q.]: cursor speed? Date: 21 Oct 1997 08:13:38 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <62ho7i$drb$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii very simple [Q.]: how do I make my cursor move faster in a terminal window (i use bash)? the control keys allow nice jumps but i always wish that i could do something to make the arrow keys move the cursor faster. [in the same vein] how do I make my vi &c scroll faster? thanks! -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; MIME & NeXT Mail OK.
From: martin <timballe@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DAYDREAM Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:55:54 +0100 Organization: Digital Equipment GmbH, Munich, Germany Message-ID: <344B46C9.28C207D7@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo I am new to the Next so I would like if somebody can tell me more about the MAC Emulator Daydream. Martin
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Filtering spam e-mail Date: 21 Oct 1997 15:15:50 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <62igv6$lcr$1@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <61u15q$h7u$1@herald.Mines.EDU> <61usnk$b2p$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <61vn2c$mnb$1@news2.digex.net> <1997Oct14.192105.824@online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: tfu@bigfoot.com Hi, Just installed procmail, can someone help me get it to recognize next-style mailboxes (something like IN.testing, from the faq, does not work with Mail.app) ? Thank you !
From: jray@bigmac.ag.ohio-state.edu (John Ray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cancel <jray-1610971239120001@primal.ag.ohio-state.edu> Control: cancel <jray-1610971239120001@primal.ag.ohio-state.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:22:06 -0400 Organization: OSU Extension Message-ID: <jray-2110971522060001@primal.ag.ohio-state.edu> cancel <jray-1610971239120001@primal.ag.ohio-state.edu>
From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: simple [Q.]: cursor speed? Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:06:58 +0100 Organization: Total Connectivity Providers - Internet access for the UK Message-ID: <344D1972.94AF2693@forsee.tcp.co.uk> References: <62ho7i$drb$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See the Preferences.app hidden under the the Clock/Calender icon in the dock. -- Rob. #:^) mailto://bobby@forsee.tcp.co.uk/ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~forsee/ (sometimes) Please: NO SPAM NO JUNK E-MAIL or I will have to do something annoying.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: yuwaraj@ecf.toronto.edu (Murugathas Yuwaraj) Subject: Problem: using Bibtex with teTeX Sender: news@ecf.toronto.edu (News Administrator) Message-ID: <EICyCD.AHr@ecf.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:12:13 GMT Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility Greetings everyone! With the advice of many users I decided to install teTeX. I must admit that it is really well packaged and one does not have to worry about post-installation configuration like setting the environment variables. I intalled the following packages: ams-fonts.tar.gz latex-base.tar.gz m68k-nextstep3.tar.gz (this was called teTeX-bin.N.b.tar.gz and I had to rename it so that install.sh script would detect it) postscript-fonts.tar.gz tetex-base.tar.gz Here is the problem: I noticed that bibtex was also installed. BUT none of the standard .bst files (like plain and nsrt) were installed. Could someone tell me where I should install these files? I tried the same location as the standard .sty and .cls files, but this did not help. Any pointers would be much appreciated. Cheers, Thas
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Speak-Freely Date: 21 Oct 1997 22:12:38 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <62j9cm$37q$1@news.seicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Howdy folks! Here is an update on the current situation on using speak-freely on black hardware. Some people have reported sound drops and strange error messages - I have now confirmed this and have a simple solution (you won't like it, but read on) - it looks like an 25 Mhz m68k system is unable to perform realtime decompression and playback. You will notice that GSM compression (not to mention LPC or LPC10) would lead to sound drops and timeouts. I am working on a new package and I try to speed up the GSM routines for m68k. Until then only Intel, HPPA and Sparc users have enough horsepower to drive speak-freely. [Speak-Freely is an Freeware Internet Phone program suite for various UNIXes and Windows] -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Robert Thille <robert@ictv.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP/CSLIP/TTYDSP/Routing Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:06:01 -0700 Organization: ICTV Inc. Message-ID: <344BAB98.8F1BDEF3@ictv.com> References: <Pine.HPP.3.96.971019115331.24759B-100000@arthur.avalon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Amscray <gansen@arthur.avalon.net> I'd be very interested in any info you get about this. Right now I'm running Morningstar PPP on my Next, over the serial port (not TTYDSP) because I can't use TTYDSP with my fax software (NXFax). Before I cared about faxing, Morningstar PPP worked fine with TTYDSP. So, now I've got a Mac that I have connected via ethernet to my NeXT, and I'm trying to get the NeXT to route/dns/nfs etc. for my mac. I've checked NeXTAnswers, and they claim that NeXTStep doesn't route between interfaces, in fact that NeXTStep 3.3 doesn't support multiple interfaces at all. This is not quite right, since I'm running 2 interfaces, en0 and du0... I can connect via dialup to the internet with my NeXT with the address assigned by my provider. I can ftp/ping between my mac and NeXT via ethernet, but the NeXT is using 1(!) IP address for both interfaces, and to talk to my mac, I have to setup the mac with an IP address which would be on the same subnet as the dialup interface of the next. I tried setting up the ethernet interface of the NeXT with a "private network" address (192.168.1.3) and the mac with an address on the same network (192.168.1.2) Both had a netmask of 255.255.255.0, and the Mac was set so that the NeXT was it's router. With this configuration, I couldn't even ping from the mac to the NeXT. One thing I think I could have done wrong here is that I just used ifconfig to change the ethernet interface, rather than changing the system files on the NeXT and rebooting. Any ideas? Thanks, Robert Amscray wrote: > OK. I use Vicom Internet Gateway on my Mac along with ethernet to do > routing and gateway stuff for my NeXT. I run it over a 56k x2 modem and > actually get 4-5k/sec downloads usually this way. > > However, Vicom's software is kludgy. I don't like it. It doesn't...well, I > just don't like the interface, who cares why. Anyway, it also means that > the NeXT is firewalled which I dislike. So, first, if anyone knows how I > can do settings under VIG that allow people to telnet to/etc the NeXT > which is behind the dialing-up Mac, lemme know. That might be a good > start. > > More to the point, however, is that I want to start making the NeXT dial. > What hardware/software would I need to start PPP or CSLIP (payware?)? I > have heard that if I want to do CSLP I need a TTYDSP adaptor which I am > willing to get. I am also aware that the NeXT's serial port is only > supposedly 38.4, but this does not matter as I really am tired of VIG. > > In addition to getting the NeXT to dial up, I also want it to do routing > over my network for my Mac. The Mac does not need to be reachable by the > outside nearly as much, and I figure the NeXT would be better suited to > gateway/routing stuff anyway. So, any info on any of these topics is > appreciated. > > --Chris > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Chris Gansen gansen@avalon.net > http://www.avalon.net/~gansen
From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX under NeXTStep (was Re: Word wrapping) Date: 17 Oct 1997 01:36:00 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <626fe0$6a9$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <vrotneyEI0tzw.GtA@netcom.com> <19971014191301.PAA28512@ladder02.news.aol.com> <620isf$q80$3@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> <625fr6$6r3$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca I think that NeXT was the premier platform for TeX but what about the future? Will teTeX and TeXView be ported? What about TeXmenu? Has Harald left the NeXT community? Somebody here was asking for him just last month. Are there other TeX products, like Textures, coming out for Rhapsody? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: jrk4583@ibm.net (Jason R. Kersten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody DR1 - anyone receive it yet? Date: 16 Oct 1997 21:52:42 GMT Organization: None Distribution: world Message-ID: <6262ba$hcg@news2.zippo.com> References: <jray-1610971239120001@primal.ag.ohio-state.edu> In message <jray-1610971239120001@primal.ag.ohio-state.edu> - jray@bigmac.ag.ohio-state.edu (John Ray) writes: :> :>Hello all, :> :> Sorry for the question, but has anyone received their developer version :>of Rhapsody yet? I joined the developer program in May, and *just* got :>things worked out to the point of receiving the advanced seeding messages :>last week. It has been nothing less than a nightmare in terms of getting :>information sent to me correctly. I was told that I should be receiving :>the seeding CD a few weeks ago, but I never did. By some miracle, I do :>get the standard monthly mailings. I've signed NDAs twice, have my :>address and seeding status confirmed multiple times, but I'm not overly :>optimistic that DR1 will make it to me without much more complaining to :>devsupport/devseed :( At any rate, I'd just like an overall idea of :>whether or not it has arrived in the boxes of other developers - if :>everyone else has it, I'd better get on the phone. :> :>Thanks for your time, :>John Ray :>OSU Sys Dev/Eng. I signed up for the developer and seeding programs in mid September, and called to verify all of my info was correct. I have received several seeding notices, including one saying a CD would be sent, but as of yet I have yet to receive ANYTHING in the mail other than a membership receipt (two identical receipts, no less, sent 2 weeks apart). I called the developer support line Monday to doublecheck my address, etc. and was told that the CD's take 4-5 days to arrive, and that I should give it until Friday before getting worried. I'm also in the same boat you are; I suspect my address is incorrect in somebody's system, and I was trying to get this all straightened out before DR1 comes. I know SOME developers apparently have received the October seeding CD (NOT DR1) - as early as last Wednesday some developers were complaining to macosrumors that DR1 was not on it. Jason R. Kersten
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: ilp -- Interactive Listserv Processor? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 22 Oct 1997 02:52:26 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <62jppa$1kf$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Crossposted since it's both a 'does anyone have' and 'does anyone know how to compile' question. I'm looking for 'ilp' the 'Interactive ListProcessor' binary, already compiled for Intel/NeXT/OpenStep If anyone has it, please let me know. Here is how it dies when I try to compile it: cc -c -g -D__NeXT__ -DNO_ABORT_OP ilp.c ilp.c:985: unterminated #ifdef conditional make: *** [ilp.o] Error 1 Here's the lines from ilp.c.... the ifdef looks terminated to me (but what do I know? nothing) 984 case EPIPE: sprintf (error, "Server disappeared"); break; 985 # ifdef ENETRESET 986 case ENETRESET: sprintf (error, "Network dropped connection"); break; 987 # endif 988 default: sprintf (error, "Error number %d", errno); 989 } 990 fprintf (stderr, "%s\n", error); 991 if (bytes_written > 0) 992 total_bytes += bytes_written; 993 return (total_bytes > 0 ? -total_bytes : -1); 994 } 995 if (bytes_written > 0) 996 bytes_to_write -= bytes_written, 997 total_bytes += bytes_written, 998 buf += bytes_written; 999 errno = 0; 1000 } 1001 if (bytes_written > 0) 1002 total_bytes += bytes_written; 1003 return total_bytes; 1004 } Any help appreciated. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: isor@ripco.com (chiroptera) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 4.0 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 02:53:06 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <344d69d4.1969830@news.enteract.com> someone gave me a NS 4.0 for intel cd rom. any ideas where i can find a boot image or more information abou it. my next will read it fine but that really does not help me any. ps - is nextstep 4.0 (that is the cd label) more like NS 3.3 or openstep 4.0? what is the cd-rom file system? please help! -eric
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: (Re)announce speak-freely for NS/OS Date: 17 Oct 1997 01:48:53 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <626g65$pmr$1@news.seicom.net> References: <622m91$9c3$1@news.seicom.net> <6267b0$phj@chile.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: shapiro@nospam.com In <6267b0$phj@chile.earthlink.net> shapiro@nospam.com wrote: > This sounds wonderful! Is there a compiled version for those of us without a > developer's version. I am on an ADB NeXTstation Color Turbo? There is a user friendly frontend for NeXTSTEP and OpenStep (two versions) in the works. This release is mostly for Intel people as that's where the problems are mostly located. I worked hard until I found a workable solution to record and play sounds on Intel hardware at least -quite- satisfactory (hopefully this will change in a Rhapsody). Expect a full release for everyone to use in a few days (maybe weeks, it's not only me who is working on this). For all people who want to try it out now (ya' know pioneers get the arrows in the back ;-)): please run speak-freely from its own directory where the sndsrec and sndsplay stream players are located, otherwise the main programs won't find their toys - this would result in major headache. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: <myemail@any.where.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Work at Home Date: 23 Oct 1997 00:59:37 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <62m7hp$jo9$11811@winter.news.erols.com> Homeworkers Urgently Needed! I Need Mailing Lists and Dependable People Your Junk Mail is Worth $$$$ for details send a large, SASE and $2 for shipping and handling to: Jim Appenzeller 15 Paulus Blvd New Brunswick, NJ 08901
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hugues@busch.onevision.de (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Looking for OS 4.2 Czeck localization Message-ID: <EIG333.KoM@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:47:27 GMT Hi, A long time ago (was it 2 years ago ?) I saw a post from a Czech guy reselling a Czeck localized NS systems (fonts, keyboard mapping and so on). Unfortunately, I didn't kept its address. I'm now looking for OpenStep Czech localized systems. If someone do that, he can mail me... Thanks. Hugues.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: JetPilot 2.3 and Epson Colour Stylus 800 Date: 22 Oct 1997 15:23:02 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <62l5om$b21$1@netty.york.ac.uk> I know I've seen this somewhere - I'm having the problem with the Epson 800 that when it has printed a job it then spools blank pages ad-infinitum. I know I've seen a solution to this somewhere on here - would anyone care to remind me ? -bat.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Stupid question I couldn't find an answer to in TFM Date: 22 Oct 1997 17:29:54 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <62ld6i$smu$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <62lbj5$gc8$2@news2.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mikelea@digex.net In <62lbj5$gc8$2@news2.digex.net> Hippykill wrote: > How do you set up applications to automagically start at login under > NS 3.3? Preferences.app does this, but I'd like some other stuff > (like backspace.app, maybe) to do it also, and I couldn't find it > (read: probably missed it) in the online docs. WM/File Viewer's preferences... check the boxes for docked items. There's also a little-known dwrite dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths /path/to/some/program which could be a shell script like this: #!/bin/sh open /LocalApps/BackSpace.app open /NextApps/Mail.app # and so on exit 0 TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Stupid question I couldn't find an answer to in TFM Date: 22 Oct 1997 17:16:54 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <62lce6$4e8$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <62lbj5$gc8$2@news2.digex.net> mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill) wrote: >How do you set up applications to automagically start at login under >NS 3.3? Hi Mike, just go to Info/Preferences in the Workspace Manager menu. Rudy
From: <ted.allen@theory1DOTphysicsDOTwisc.edu> Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: Weird problem with TeXview! Date: 22 Oct 1997 18:10:20 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <62lfic$jcu$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Gee, I'm getting to be a pain around here... Wish I didn't have these problems, but... For background, let me say that we've been migrating to 100 Mbps ethernet and are using the Intel EEPro/100B in our network. We used to use the EEPro/10 ISA cards. I don't know if this is relevant, but that's all that's changed lately. Our problem is that in the last few days, TeXview has taken to acting funny on one of our client machines. When that happens, it will preview a .dvi file but it won't open a .tex file for *some* users. Yes, all have the same .cshrc file (needed for TeXview to get the environment). For instance, I and another user cannot get TeXview to open .tex files and we are network users. Some other network users and all local users (like the me account) seem to be able to use TeXview just fine. I have no idea what the problem is. There are no error messages anywhere. When it hangs, all you get is the spinning cursor... Anyone have any idea what to look for???? -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison Ted.Allen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/
From: Lars Immisch <lars@ibp.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: omniORB2 ported to NEXTSTEP 3.3 black/gcc 2.7.2 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 20:58:15 +0200 Organization: Immisch, Becker & Partner Message-ID: <344E4CC7.21CC@ibp.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: S.Lo@orl.co.uk I am pleased to announce the port of omniORB2 to NEXTSTEP 3.3 black and gcc 2.7.2. omniORB2 is a freely available CORBA 2 compliant ORB from the Olivetti & Oracle Research Laboratory, for details, please check http://www.orl.co.uk/omniORB/omniORB.html A precompiled binary distribution, including the sources, is available from their ftp server ftp://ftp.orl.co.uk/pub/omniORB/omniORB_2.2.0_NS3.3.tar.gz The port requires gcc 2.7.2 because omniORB2 supports C++ language bindings and, naturally, uses C++ exceptions. It is currently tested on black hardware, but the port to any other NEXTSTEP 3.3 platform should be straightforward. The port makes use of Mach threads, but does not use the posix libraries, so I hope that any further port to OPENSTEP/MACH should pose little problems. I am responsible for any bugs introduced in the port, particularly the omnithread library, and will appreciate any feedback or bug reports. For problems with omniORB2, please mail to omniorb@orl.co.uk. There is also a mailing list, to subscribe, send an email to omniorb-list-request@orl.co.uk with the line subscribe in the body of the email (you know the game). I will also be glad to provide help if anyone wants to port omniORB2 to another NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP system (Frank?). Thanks to ORL for making omniORB2 freely available! Lars Immisch -- mailto: lars@ibp.de
From: Art Vandele <gansen@arthur.avalon.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: security issues Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 04:15:51 -0500 Organization: Avalon Networks Inc. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.971022041406.18079A-100000@arthur.avalon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII After having my slab firewalled behind a gateway, I have recently set up inbound mapping. I am running NS 3.3 user. I would like to be sure my machine is relatively secure. Will things like updating sendmail, etc be necessary? I also plan to install apache httpd if I can find it. If there are any pointers or must-do tips you all can give me, feel free to mail me. Thanks much. --Chris _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Gansen gansen@avalon.net http://www.avalon.net/~gansen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Sender: FREE CABLE<kilop@att.net> Message-ID: <cancel.62keai$ffr@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <62keai$ffr@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> ignore Control: cancel <62keai$ffr@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Date: 22 Oct 1997 08:42:58 GMT ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Oct 22 11:36:31 1997 Original subject was: CABLE BOX DESCRAMBLER BUILD YOUR OWN DESCRAMBLER FAST CHEAP AND EASY
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <62m7hp$jo9$11811@winter.news.erols.com> Control: cancel <62m7hp$jo9$11811@winter.news.erols.com> Date: 23 Oct 1997 01:01:40 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.62m7hp$jo9$11811@winter.news.erols.com> Sender: <myemail@any.where.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: singer@aluminum.mps.ohio-state.edu. (Sherwin Singer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is PStill.app ? Date: 23 Oct 1997 12:30:52 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Message-ID: <62ng1s$rcs$1@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Where is PStill.app ? Thanks, -- Sherwin Singer singer@mps.ohio-state.edu Dept. of Chemistry Ohio State University PHONE AND FAX: (614)292-8909 FAX: (614)292-1685
From: Trevin Beattie <*trevin*@*xmission*.*com*> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Stupid question I couldn't find an answer to in TFM Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:21:33 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <62nj0j$ao0$1@news.xmission.com> References: <62lbj5$gc8$2@news2.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hippykill wrote: > > How do you set up applications to automagically start at login under > NS 3.3? Preferences.app does this, but I'd like some other stuff > (like backspace.app, maybe) to do it also, and I couldn't find it > (read: probably missed it) in the online docs. Workspace menu: Info -> Preferences -> Dock (I think that was mentioned in Workspace Manager's help.) -- Trevin Beattie "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, *To*reply*to*this* for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." *message,*remove*the* --unknown *asterisks*from*my*email*address.*
From: mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Stupid question I couldn't find an answer to in TFM Date: 23 Oct 1997 13:20:32 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <62niv0$9hq$2@news2.digex.net> References: <62lbj5$gc8$2@news2.digex.net> <62ld6i$smu$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: >In <62lbj5$gc8$2@news2.digex.net> Hippykill wrote: >> How do you set up applications to automagically start at login under >> NS 3.3? Preferences.app does this, but I'd like some other stuff >> (like backspace.app, maybe) to do it also, and I couldn't find it >> (read: probably missed it) in the online docs. > >WM/File Viewer's preferences... check the boxes for docked items. > >There's also a little-known dwrite > >dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths /path/to/some/program > >which could be a shell script like this: > >#!/bin/sh > >open /LocalApps/BackSpace.app >open /NextApps/Mail.app ># and so on > >exit 0 Thanks, TjL and RBB...I knew it had to be obvious, and that I was just missing it... -- *mikelea@access.digex.net* "imperious, angry, furious, extreme in all things, with a disturbance in the moral imagination unlike any the world has ever known-there you have me in a nutshell: and one more thing, kill me or take me as I am, because I will not change." -de Sade
From: rich@clark.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: solidThinking Date: 23 Oct 1997 13:25:35 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <62nj8f$qg2@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi could someone send me the price for solidThinking on OPENSTEP 4.2, and the number of a distributer in the U.S. I've tried Gestel's web page and it does not seem to include pricing info, and have sent e-mail to them twice and recvd no reply. Thanks, -Rich
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is PStill.app ? Date: 23 Oct 1997 13:33:54 GMT Message-ID: <19971023133301.JAA17643@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <62ng1s$rcs$1@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> www.this.net/~frank is the entry page. The address for the locations is: http://www.this.net/~frank/pstill.html Just an asside: I've sent Mr. Siegert the error log from my difficulties with running it under NS 3.1 and he's hoping to get it recompiled under NS 3.0 in hopes of fixing it. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is MiscKit 2.0.5.s ? Date: 23 Oct 1997 15:33:21 GMT Organization: Telf Design Corp. Message-ID: <62nqo1$oe3$1@ralph.vnet.net> I'm looking for the latest version of MiscKit. Is it 2.0.5 ? The ThoughtPort site seems to be protected, and the German sites seem to have a slightly old (2.0.2) version. Thanks! -- Roland Telfeyan roland@telf.com (MIME, NeXT, Sun)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Elm with MIME support? Date: 17 Oct 1997 16:44:13 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6284kt$77k$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <623ome$k98$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <626jjk$6hp$2@walter.cs.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU In <626jjk$6hp$2@walter.cs.umd.edu> Sean Luke wrote: > Edward N. Zalta (zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU) wrote: > > Does anyone have elm2.4 compiled with with MIME support turned on? > > Hmmm... perhaps it might be easier to convince your friend to use pine > instead. Similar program conceptually (a little more modern), extremely > popular, designed specifically for MIME, and has NeXTSTEP binaries > available on ftp://next-ftp.peak.org I'm all for pine myself, but there is an elm.2.4 on PEAK.... I'm not sure if it has MIME support on or not... ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/elm.2.4PL23.pkg.NI.b.tar.gz TjL ps -- I didn't see the original post, just this followup... -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Filtering spam e-mail Date: 23 Oct 1997 17:44:26 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EIH87s.4vt@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <61u15q$h7u$1@herald.Mines.EDU> <61usnk$b2p$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <61vn2c$mnb$1@news2.digex.net> <1997Oct14.192105.824@online.de> <62igv6$lcr$1@athena.ulaval.ca> <EIF82u.1HG@basil.icce.rug.nl> I wrote: > You need appnmail, from Carl Edman's mailapp-utilities (available at > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/mext/apps/mail/). ------------------------------^ duh! "next" of course... --Tom.
From: gar@lisi.com (Garrett Lisi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: OS4.2 and a peak at DR Date: 23 Oct 1997 21:25:34 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <62ofcf$bjp$1@news1.ucsd.edu> So I hear tell that Apple gave away copies of OpenStep 4.2 at the WWDC. I'm a lookin' to get that pesky CD and feed it to my aging color slab, as it will most likely be the last operating system it will be able to digest. So anyone got that CD? I'll gladly pay more then 10X what you paid for it! ( Plus shipping and whatever you want for your trouble. ) On a side note, I was wandering the web and ran across what appears to be some Rhapsody Developer Release screen shots: http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ It looks much more macish then NeXTish. Bummer. The evil menu bar lives, as do free floating icons on the desktop, ugly oval buttons, barber's pole process indicators, and other manglings of a once beautiful GUI. Perhaps some industrious NeXT curmudgeon will hack a return to the NeXT UI... Best, Garrett Lisi gar(AT)lisi.com -- .-===_ A.Garrett Lisi ^+^ gar(AT)lisi.com .' / \ ^+^ http://heaviside.ucsd.edu/ .' |\o \ Physics Department and -' | h\ Institute for Nonlinear Science ___/(_ \^ University of California, San Diego ='____.\ `~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'~~~~\{~
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <01bce150$f23abbe0$6fac82d0@default> Control: cancel <01bce150$f23abbe0$6fac82d0@default> Date: 25 Oct 1997 14:15:43 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.01bce150$f23abbe0$6fac82d0@default> Sender: "cindy" <sweetand sexy@cmm.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: DAYDREAM Message-ID: <EILqHp.A0I@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <344B46C9.28C207D7@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:01:01 GMT In article <344B46C9.28C207D7@hotmail.com> martin <timballe@hotmail.com> writes: > Hallo > > I am new to the Next so I would like if somebody can tell me more about > the MAC Emulator Daydream. > The daydream is a combination of a dongle like piece of hardware that goes to the DSP port of a NeXT and which provides the Apple ROMs, and some software to install DAYDREAM and maintain container files that hold the emulated Mac drives. You don't get a full fledged MacOS. That must come fron somewhere else. What you get is some minimal 7.something for booting and a container file providing copies of the drivers for the NeXT color display (12 Bit ain't Apple standard) and the NeXTlaser printer (no Apple compatible piece either). The bootstrap is really easy. You run the install, configure the Mac emulation (RAM, container files) and then you run Daydream.app to reboot into MacOS. But now it becomes somewhat wierd (Macintosh wise, so to speak). As you might already know, Apple tagged their CD/ROM drives in the configuration ROM. Thus, normal NeXTable CD/ROMs won't be recognized by MacOS. So, if you don't want to install MacOS from a zillion of floppies, you need a third party CD/ROM driver on floppy. After having installed this driver you can install your favorite MacOS from CD. At last you install the NeXTcolor and NeXTlaser drivers from the DAYDREAM installation container and we're done. Alternatively you could bring in a Apple CD/ROM drive and temporarily attach it while running DAYDREAM (NEXTSTEP won't like the Apple drive either!). What you then get is a Mac Quadra like machine with a ultra crisp display, plenty of RAM and a fine and fast laser printer. Some games and other hacker like software has problems but the huge shelf of properly engineered software all runs fine. You get Ethertalk to run just out of the box, but Localtalk doesn't work as the NeXT connectors are serial ports no Appletalk. And you don't get sound since this takes the DSP which is already busy giving access to the Apple ROMs. All in all, I'm happy with it. It is just fine for a NEXTSTEPer who needs some MAc from time to time. It might also be right for someone who just got some black hardware in a MAc shop and has no intention of running NEXT/OPENSTEP (poor guy, but you must know better ;-) It'll never be a way to Rhapsody, of course :-( -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: wjs@spam.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What beta means (was Re: * Is Rhapsody supposed to come with a Web Browser?) Date: 26 Oct 1997 03:33:13 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <62ql7j$erl$1@brnws01.ne.mediaone.net> In article Steven W. Schuldt <sschuldt@mediaone.net> writes: > BTW: For any running OPENSTEP 4.2 do _NOT_ install this pig > (OmniWeb 3) on your system if browsing the web is at all important to > you. You'll love the animated .gifs, but you will hate the speed > loss, the massive memory leaks and general comprehensive wackness of > this work in progress. I shudder to think that it might be this bad on > Rhapsody, and that people's first experience with Omni and OpenStep > web browsing is such a smoky pile of pizzle. OmniWeb 2.5 rules > (2.5, _not_ 2.7 or higher). Get it off peak and wait for OmniGroup > to get 3.x out of diapers (hopefully soon). > > - Steve Gee, Steve, I sure appreciate your supportive words for the free product I've spent the last six months of my life working on, instead of doing billable projects. Like, duh, we recognize that OmniWeb 3.0 is currently rough. We didn't want to release it. Apple BEGGED us to get them a browser for Rhapsody, because their internal engineers didn't want to switch from 4.2 to Rhapsody until they had one. So we released the early beta, even though it wasn't ready. Then, I started getting attacked on the mailing lists for abandoning OpenStep 4.2, so I reversed myself and released the beta for 4.2 as well, even though it meant spending time working around 4.2 bugs that are fixed in Rhapsody. So then I get attacked by OmniWeb 2 users who are amazed that OmniWeb 3, which has a completely new display system, is, gasp, buggier and has memory leaks. Why did we release beta-2 so early? Because Rhapsody DR shipped, and beta-1 was way worse. Believe me, I also worry about what Mac users are going to think when they look at Rhapsody. I worried so much I spent months porting OmniWeb to Rhapsody with no conceivable way I could make money off of it for at least a year. I spent my time and my company's resources trying to make Rhapsody a success. What did you do, again? Oh, that's right, you were kind enough to lend your complaints on my efforts. You didn't even file any bugs with Omni, you just posted to the net. Now, what I don't want is a lot of people posting, "I love OmniWeb and I appreciate Omni." I know a lot of people do, and thanks. We love you guys. What I do want is to explain, once and for STINKING all, what a beta is for: IT'S FOR ME! NOT YOU! I DIDN'T RELEASE THE OPENSTEP BETA OF OMNIWEB 3.0 SO YOU COULD DO WORK WITH IT! I RELEASED IT SO YOU COULD FIND BUGS, AND REPORT THEM TO ME, SO THE FINAL PRODUCT WILL BE BETTER! Now, if this sounds selfish, don't use the beta. I didn't ask you to beta test my software, you volunteered by downloading it. If I ship OmniWeb 3 and it's still a stinking dung pile in your humble opinion, you can flame me then. Until then, can you see how annoying it is for us to spend the day or so making an official release just so we can get flamed because it's a beta-quality beta. John Rudd adds: > Do _not_ make the mistake of thinking this is a user usable beta > like many of Omni's previous OmniWeb betas. No, wait, I can go one better. Don't use ANY of our betas as usable software. Just don't. We get tired of getting flamed for having bugs in beta software. Use the released version, unless you are interested in finding bugs and reporting them to us. It's that simple. Beta testers should relish the idea of finding bugs. I'll tell you how I write code: first I redesign the parts of the architecture I never liked, then I add new features and fix old bugs, then I go through and fix the new bugs I introduced, and then AND ONLY THEN do I optimize the code for speed and make sure no memory is being leaked. There are other methodologies; I like mine. Right now, OmniWeb 3 is currently in the "add features" stage of the development cycle. We should probably come up with a way of marking releases so users can tell whether we think a beta is going to be buggy, slow, a memory pig, or what. The problem is the computer industry doesn't have different words for different levels of beta software, from 'this is just a sneak peek at something in development' to 'this is the final shakedown of stable software before we ship it to 15 million users'. In this case of OmniWeb 3, we're currently in the sneak peek phase. I will admit, for the record, that when Netscape or Microsoft releases a beta, it generally means, "This is pretty stable but not so stable we want to get sued." That isn't what our betas mean, and I can understand the confusion if you are used to using "betas" of IE or Netscape. We don't have the staff to have 20 people bug-testing OmniWeb full-time before we release a beta. To us, a beta really is a 'you-find-the-bugs' release. In the case of OmniWeb 3, I really didn't want to release a beta, because I know about a huge pile of bugs already, but we wanted to release a PREVIEW on Rhapsody so users and media could see that real apps are coming. And, hey, if you're using Rhapsody, I think OmniWeb is better than nothing. Releasing on 4.2 was probably a mistake, but we didn't want to take the heat. And at least, unlike IE 4.0, our beta software has not corrupted anyone's core system software or caused their machine to stop working permanently. -Wil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu (bryce sady) Subject: devanagari font? Message-ID: <EIMHqJ.DJo@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:49:31 GMT anyone found a devanagari font (for sanskrit, vedic) for NeXT? for Mac that can be converted to NeXT? thank you, bryce -- bryce sady NeXT / Mime mail ok
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <21870877233630@digifix.com> Date: 26 Oct 1997 03:48:41 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <13622877838422@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. 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From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <261097003811@hotels-for-you12.com> Date: 26 Oct 1997 06:09:28 GMT Control: cancel <261097003811@hotels-for-you12.com> Message-ID: <cancel.261097003811@hotels-for-you12.com> Sender: "HOTELS" hotels@hotels-for-you12.com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: aon@aon.at Subject: Q:NeXT+Internet Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:51:16 -0600 Message-ID: <877880668.20145@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Deja News Posting Service Hi! I know that this is a stupid question but... . ....how to connect my NeXT Cube 040 with the internet to receive/send e-mails and to browse in the WWW ???? BTW: I already have a provider-account. and the possibility to use ISDN or Analog-devices. Thank you. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: thomassi@gudmund.vgs.no (Thomas Sivertsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: OS4.2 and a peak at DR Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 21:14:46 +0100 Organization: Smurfetryne Holding Onto Message-ID: <19971026211446102658@ti21a35-0005.dialup.online.no> References: <62ofcf$bjp$1@news1.ucsd.edu> <344fd665.0@206.25.228.5> <62qd46$1fjq$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Michael Giddings <giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu> wrote: > In <344fd665.0@206.25.228.5> John Kheit wrote: > > for rhapsody. Basically mediocrity, compromise, assimilation, > > habit, tradition, and familiarity over functionality and elegance. [A SNIP of a lot of what has been said by him before, actually that above has been said before about...999 times before, by said man. It`s also a bit right...] > > I basically had your attitude as of a week ago. I don't anymore (though > under a certain agreement I signed I can't tell you why). However, I don't > think mediocrity is the driving force behind Apple and their new OS. I wish > I could expound more but I can't. So in the end, all I can say is have > patience and you may pleasantly surprised and rewarded. > > So this means there is already a way of getting the "old" UI? ;-) Just me hoping, of course, don`t take it seriously... -- Mvh, Thomas Sivertsen, who`s mailserver is out having lunch at The Big Bang Hamburger Bar.
From: Slava Babitsyn <medics@post.tomica.ru> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep for Intel Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:22:57 +0700 Organization: TADI Message-ID: <3451D690.3262134D@post.tomica.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have become very interested in NextStep OS and wish to try it onto my computer (Intel Pentium). And I wonder if anywhere on Internet exists some kind of free demo(NextStep OS for Intel) I could try to install ? Thank You Before!
From: email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What beta means (was Re: * Is Rhapsody supposed to come with a Web Browser?) Date: 26 Oct 1997 23:02:26 GMT Organization: VTL Message-ID: <630i62$aa6$1@wagner.videotron.net> References: <62ql7j$erl$1@brnws01.ne.mediaone.net> <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> In-Reply-To: <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> On 10/25/97, William Shipley wrote: > >Now, what I don't want is a lot of people posting, "I love OmniWeb >and I appreciate Omni." I know a lot of people do, and thanks. >We love you guys. > Ok, then: I appreciate OmniWeb and I love Omni. (hey, this is usenet! 8^) Ray -- Raymond Lutz - lutzray @foobar@ 9bit.qc.ca - www.9bit.qc.ca/~lutzray - "Les 400 plus fortunes individus de la planete possedent autant que 2.3 MILLIARDS des plus pauvres reunis"
From: Norbert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: (Re)announce speak-freely for NS/OS Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:38:46 +0200 Organization: European Southern Observatory Message-ID: <344E0FF6.4E5A@eso.org> References: <622m91$9c3$1@news.seicom.net> <6267b0$phj@chile.earthlink.net> <626g65$pmr$1@news.seicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > In <6267b0$phj@chile.earthlink.net> shapiro@nospam.com wrote: > > This sounds wonderful! Is there a compiled version for those of us without > a > > developer's version. I am on an ADB NeXTstation Color Turbo? > > There is a user friendly frontend for NeXTSTEP and OpenStep (two versions) in > the works. This release is mostly for Intel people as that's where the > problems are mostly located. I worked hard until I found a workable solution > to record and play sounds on Intel hardware at least -quite- satisfactory > (hopefully this will change in a Rhapsody). Expect a full release for > everyone to use in a few days (maybe weeks, it's not only me who is working > on this). > > For all people who want to try it out now (ya' know pioneers get the arrows > in the back ;-)): please run speak-freely from its own directory where the > sndsrec and sndsplay stream players are located, otherwise the main programs > won't find their toys - this would result in major headache. > > -- > * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net > * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy Is MIBer available for download? How about the source ? --
From: info@vvi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: VVI-DCS Makes First Data Acquisition (DAQ) Solution For Rhapsody Date: 27 Oct 1997 13:59:54 GMT Organization: VVI Data Control Specialists Message-ID: <6326oq$3oi$1@news2.digex.net> Originator: gsupport@ PRESS RELEASE: VVI-DCS Makes First Data Acquisition (DAQ) Solution For Rhapsody VVI Data Control Specialists (VVI-DCS) 311 Adams Ave.; State College, PA 16803 USA 888-DCS-OPEN ; 814-234-9613 info@vvi.com http://www.vvi.com State College, PA USA, 27 October 1997: Showing its continued commitment to Apple(R)'s next generation operating system, code named Rhapsody, VVI Data Control Specialists(TM) (VVI-DCS(TM)) today announced a full Rhapsody version of its network data acquisition hardware (DAQ) device driver. "We have combined our existing OpenGraph(TM) for Rhapsody solutions with one of the most powerful network DAQ solutions available on the market and made it run seamlessly with Rhapsody", said John Brilhart, Chief Technical Officer of VVI-DCS. He added, "Companies that choose Rhapsody will be able to acquire almost any analog or digital information in industrial and service sector settings for instrument, machine, building, process and environmental control and monitoring needs. The application areas are enormous and we have a complete and robust product which will be available when the Premier version of Rhapsody ships." VVI-DCS is fully committed to the future of Apple's Rhapsody and has a long history of outstanding support and delivery of OpenGraph services and products and welcomes Apple Computer, Inc., and other innovative companies which use OpenGraph's data reporting technology to their advantage. About VVI-DCS: VVI Data Control Specialists (VVI-DCS) was cofounded in 1989 by Ed VanVliet and John Brilhart, subsequently incorporated in 1992 and is currently a privately held corporation. Since its founding VVI-DCS expanded to be the leading independent supplier of data reporting software in the OpenStep marketplace. VVI-DCS's customers comprise world leading companies in the banking, biotechnology, chemical, financial services, manufacturing, and pharmaceutical industries. Systems VVI-DCS helped build have been operational for years and at this time are monitoring billions of dollars worth of products in real-time and on a global scale. These systems are, in part, based on VVI-DCS's OpenGraph About OpenGraph: OpenGraph is a framework of Objective-C and C++ objects for reporting data in graph and textual formats and consists of a graph building application and pre-built objects. OpenGraph accepts real-time feeds from any source and serves as a graphing front-end for real-time financial analysis, transaction, production and inventory analysis, database systems, and instrumentation. OpenGraph is fully object-oriented and is well suited to systems which require reliability, exacting specifications and performance. _________________________________ (C) Copyright 1997 VVimaging, Inc. (VVI-DCS); All rights reserved. OpenGraph, GraphBuilder, VVI Data Control Specialists, VVI-DCS, and VVimaging are trademarks of VVimaging, Inc. (VVI-DCS). OpenStep and Apple are trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc. All other trademarks and service marks belong to their respective owners.
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.nos-pam@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Printing to a Program Date: 27 Oct 1997 09:47:51 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <631o07$61m$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <62r2b6$qjl$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) wrote: >The question I have is: how do you convince a NeXT machine (running 3.2) >to automagically redirect its postscript output jobs to the stdin of a >program instead of trying to print them? I'm sick of saving the print >jobs and manually calling the program on them. Hm. Wouldn't a simple shell script installed as a printer filter do the job? Kind regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q:NeXT+Internet Date: 27 Oct 1997 10:04:54 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <631p06$6oa$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <877880668.20145@dejanews.com> aon@aon.at wrote: > ....how to connect my NeXT Cube 040 with the internet to > receive/send e-mails and to browse in the WWW ???? > > BTW: I already have a provider-account. > and the possibility to use ISDN or Analog-devices. You get a high speed modem, a proper hardware flow control cable, and PPP from the net. Macintosh cables are not garranteed to work. The popular PPP package is at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ I think OpenStep 4.x comes with the PPP package installed. I am running a NextStation with NS 3.2 and PPP 2.2. Following the instructions for installing PPP is critical. If you have an older version of NS then your options may be limited. Just check out the PPP web page. Good luck, Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: Norbert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ISDN Monitoring ... Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:48:35 +0200 Organization: European Southern Observatory Message-ID: <344B4513.4929@eso.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Is there any software for OpenStep that allows a user to monitor a CISCO 760 ISDN router? I would like to be able to monitor the traffic on both ISDN lines, and have the ability to switch them on/off manually if needed. Thanks Nor
From: kennel@nospam.lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What beta means (was Re: * Is Rhapsody supposed to come with a Web Browser?) Date: 27 Oct 1997 00:24:11 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <slrn657r61.dr.kennel@lyapunov.ucsd.edu> References: <62ql7j$erl$1@brnws01.ne.mediaone.net> <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> On 26 Oct 1997 03:33:13 GMT, William Shipley <wjs@spam.omnigroup.com> wrote: :What I do want is to explain, once and for STINKING all, what a beta is :for: : :IT'S FOR ME! NOT YOU! I DIDN'T RELEASE THE OPENSTEP BETA OF OMNIWEB 3.0 :SO YOU COULD DO WORK WITH IT! I RELEASED IT SO YOU COULD FIND BUGS, AND :REPORT THEM TO ME, SO THE FINAL PRODUCT WILL BE BETTER! : :Now, if this sounds selfish, don't use the beta. I didn't ask you to beta :test my software, you volunteered by downloading it. If I ship OmniWeb 3 :and it's still a stinking dung pile in your humble opinion, you can flame :me then. Until then, can you see how annoying it is for us to spend the :day or so making an official release just so we can get flamed because :it's a beta-quality beta. :I will admit, for the record, that when Netscape or Microsoft releases a :beta, it generally means, "This is pretty stable but not so stable we want :to get sued." That isn't what our betas mean, and I can understand the :confusion if you are used to using "betas" of IE or Netscape. Which is very good reason to not call these releases "betas", as many people have been conditioned to believe that beta releases of Web browsers are almost ready for most uses. It's not your fault, but you ought to just go with the flow. :We don't :have the staff to have 20 people bug-testing OmniWeb full-time before we :release a beta. To us, a beta really is a 'you-find-the-bugs' release. Commonly called an "alpha". What about "OmniWeb3.0Xlotsobugs.app" Or, "OmniWeb3.0Xnotevenremotelyarealbeta.app" :In the case of OmniWeb 3, I really didn't want to release a beta, because :I know about a huge pile of bugs already, but we wanted to release a :PREVIEW on Rhapsody so users and media could see that real apps are :coming. And, hey, if you're using Rhapsody, I think OmniWeb is better :than nothing. "OmniWeb3.0Xyesweknowitsreallybuggybutitsbetterthandiddlysquat.app" "OmniWeb3.0XyoubettermailUSthebugsandnotjustuseitforporno.app". -- * Matthew B. Kennel/Institute for Nonlinear Science, UCSD * * According to California Assembly Bill 3320, it is now a criminal offense * to solicit any goods or services by email to a CA resident without * providing the business's legal name and complete street address. *
From: smarqz@no_spam_unm.edu (Marlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anybody still using Weather.app Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:04:22 GMT Organization: univ of NM Message-ID: <34549ecc.4667397@news.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm wondering if its still usable. I'm working on setting up my NeXT to the 'net, and think this app would be interesting to try. Thank you Marlin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What beta means (was Re: * Is Rhapsody supposed to come with a Web Browser?) From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:34:47 -0500 Message-ID: <1997102711145532087660N@roxboro-175.interpath.net> References: <62q8o9$jqv@cnj.digex.net> <62qbah$bnh$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <62ql7j$erl$1@brnws01.ne.mediaone.net> <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> Organization: phenix@interpath.com ?'D1cB]L9V=\OS(\8S,5 [Posted and mailed] William Shipley <wjs@spam.omnigroup.com> wrote: ] In article Steven W. Schuldt <sschuldt@mediaone.net> writes: -snip- ] What I do want is to explain, once and for STINKING all, what a beta ] is for: ] ] IT'S FOR ME! NOT YOU! I DIDN'T RELEASE THE OPENSTEP BETA OF OMNIWEB ] 3.0 SO YOU COULD DO WORK WITH IT! I RELEASED IT SO YOU COULD FIND ] BUGS, AND REPORT THEM TO ME, SO THE FINAL PRODUCT WILL BE BETTER! ] -snip- ] Right now, OmniWeb 3 is currently in the "add features" stage of the ] development cycle. We should probably come up with a way of marking ] releases so users can tell whether we think a beta is going to be ] buggy, slow, a memory pig, or what. The problem is the computer ] industry doesn't have different words for different levels of beta ] software, from 'this is just a sneak peek at something in development' ] to 'this is the final shakedown of stable software before we ship it ] to 15 million users'. In this case of OmniWeb 3, we're currently in ] the sneak peek phase. Have you ever thought of using the descending numbering system? That's where your first beta is something like 3b99 and your next is 3b98 then maybe 3b75 until you get all the way down to 3b00 which is your proposed GM - feature complete and all known bugs squashed? Now true, this is a bit different than the way most companies handle beta software - but as you say in the part I snipped, most companies use beta to mean something other than "Help me find bugs". Put a note in the read me - along with a list of know bugs - and anybody worth listening to won't be complaining about "bugs" in your beta software. I'd also recommend that you set up a listserv that people can join which you can use to spit out verified bugs - as very little pisses me off more than spending a couple of days tracking down and documenting a bug, only to be told "Yes, that is a known problem". One further note - if you are in the "add features" stage and you expect to add major features still, then this should properly be called ALPHA software instead - as alpha software is not feature complete and beta is (or should be). -- John Moreno
From: "James N. Greene" <greene@phy.uab.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: again, (sorry TjL!), NS 3.3 on Virtual PC on MacOS 8? Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:09:10 -0600 Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham Message-ID: <3454D8C6.CA6@phy.uab.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Several newsgroup posts and even Virtual PC's packaging suggest that it is possible to install OPENSTEP on Virtual PC. I have NeXTSTEP 3.3 running on a Turbo ColorStation and would like to install it on my NuBus-class Mac. I've tried installing 3.3 as suggested by the information available from NeXTAnswers and Connectix, but installation hangs consistently at "Power Management is Enabled." ATAPI and IDE drivers seem to be correct ... the Mach kernel seems to recognize both the CD and the virtual IDE hard drive. There are significant differences between NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP, but would any of those differences allow one to be installed on Virtual PC but not the other? Thank you, Jim Greene Physics Dept. University of Alabama at Birmingham The most recent EIDE/ATAPI driver for 3.3 is version 3.31. Version 4.01 of the driver (which, beacuse it is for "Dual" EIDE, would probably make everything work properly) appears to be OPENSTEP-only (not NeXTSTEP-compatible).
From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Printing to a Program Date: 27 Oct 1997 21:03:22 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <632viq$lqa$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <62r2b6$qjl$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> <631o07$61m$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss (neuss.nos-pam@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam) wrote: >seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) wrote: > >>The question I have is: how do you convince a NeXT machine (running 3.2) >>to automagically redirect its postscript output jobs to the stdin of a >>program instead of trying to print them? I'm sick of saving the print >>jobs and manually calling the program on them. > >Hm. Wouldn't a simple shell script installed as a printer filter >do the job? I tried hooking to the output filter in netinfo; didn't work (all I'd get to "filter" would be the print message. _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Where to find the NeXTdimension demos apps... Message-ID: <EIpzMs.Ar0@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:08:52 GMT Can anyone tell me where I can find the demo applications for NeXTdimension? I searched various NS releases and I can find only NeXTtv, ScreenScape. Whare is the VideoApp? Thanks for any info.
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ISDN Monitoring ... Date: 27 Oct 1997 18:22:08 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <632m4g$7ta$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <344B4513.4929@eso.org> Norbert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org> wrote: > Is there any software for OpenStep that allows a user to monitor a > CISCO 760 ISDN router? I would like to be able to monitor the traffic > on both ISDN lines, and have the ability to switch them on/off manually > if needed. NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP ship with 'snmp', which lets you do SNMP queries. However, your ISDN router probably provides either telnetd or a serial cable interface, which you could connect to using 'telnet' or something like 'kermit'. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for OS 4.2 Czeck localization Date: 22 Oct 1997 14:17:06 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <62l1t2$9mr$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <EIG333.KoM@onevision.de> hugues@busch.onevision.de (Hugues RICHARD) wrote: >Hi, > >A long time ago (was it 2 years ago ?) I saw a post from a Czech guy >reselling a Czeck localized NS systems (fonts, keyboard mapping and so on). >Unfortunately, I didn't kept its address. > >I'm now looking for OpenStep Czech localized systems. >If someone do that, he can mail me... > >Thanks. > >Hugues. For Czech support check out http://www.ocs.cz/ and follow the links to the 'apps' area. Good luck. Rudy blazek@stt.msu.edu www.stt.msu.edu/~blazek
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Filtering spam e-mail Date: 22 Oct 1997 17:57:40 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EIF82u.1HG@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <61u15q$h7u$1@herald.Mines.EDU> <61usnk$b2p$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <61vn2c$mnb$1@news2.digex.net> <1997Oct14.192105.824@online.de> <62igv6$lcr$1@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) wrote: > Just installed procmail, can someone help me get it to recognize > next-style mailboxes (something like IN.testing, from the faq, does > not work with Mail.app) ? You need appnmail, from Carl Edman's mailapp-utilities (available at ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/mext/apps/mail/). Here is an example from my own ~/.procmailrc: :0 * ^TOnext-prog@omni |appnmail $appnmailflags MailingLists/next-prog As far as I remember, Timothy Luoma has a web page dedicated to procmail / appnmail somewhere at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/. (I can't find it right now so I may have misremembered :-/) -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.dev.null.nl> (work) __/__/__/ <<SPAMBLOCK: remove .dev.null to reply>> __/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to find the NeXTdimension demos apps... Date: 28 Oct 1997 02:59:27 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <633kef$448$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <EIpzMs.Ar0@midway.uchicago.edu> <EIqCIA.7I1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca In <EIqCIA.7I1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote: > In article <EIpzMs.Ar0@midway.uchicago.edu>, > Andrew Chang <tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu> wrote: > >Whare is the VideoApp? > > This went away in 3.3. I seem to recall it being somewhere under > /NextDeveloper/Examples in 3.2 (don't have a 3.2 machine handy to check.) That's a pretty impressive memory David: /NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.2/NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/VideoApp/ TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Where to find the NeXTdimension demos apps... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EIqCIA.7I1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:46:58 GMT References: <EIpzMs.Ar0@midway.uchicago.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <EIpzMs.Ar0@midway.uchicago.edu>, Andrew Chang <tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu> wrote: > >Can anyone tell me where I can find the demo applications for NeXTdimension? >I searched various NS releases and I can find only NeXTtv, ScreenScape. Right. Those should be in /NextDeveloper/Demos >Whare is the VideoApp? This went away in 3.3. I seem to recall it being somewhere under /NextDeveloper/Examples in 3.2 (don't have a 3.2 machine handy to check.) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What beta means (was Re: * Is Rhapsody supposed to come with a Web Browser?) Date: 28 Oct 1997 06:14:29 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <633vs5$ph$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <62q8o9$jqv@cnj.digex.net> <62qbah$bnh$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <62ql7j$erl$1@brnws01.ne.mediaone.net> <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <1997102711145532087660N@roxboro-175.interpath.net> John Moreno (phenix@interpath.com) wrote: : One further note - if you are in the "add features" stage and you : expect to add major features still, then this should properly be called : ALPHA software instead - as alpha software is not feature complete and : beta is (or should be). We use the Hacker's "Jargon" dictionary definition of beta. (Actually, I just now guessed that it'd be in there, we've simply always used it. And an interesting side note is that our OmniWeb 1.0 betas were released long before either Netscape or IE existed.) Quoting from the Jargon file: beta /bay't*/, /be't*/ or (Commonwealth) /bee't*/ n. 1. In the Real World, software often goes through two stages of testing: Alpha (in-house) and Beta (out-house?). Software is said to be `in beta'. 2. Anything that is new and experimental is in beta. "His girlfriend is in beta means that he is still testing for compatibility and reserving judgment. 3. Beta software is notoriously buggy, so `in beta' connotes flakiness. I believe the OmniWeb 3 beta releases fit all three points. And while I appreciate that some people might have other expectations of what beta software might mean, I believe the disclaimer at the top of our beta announcements, our web page, and our README made the quality of the software perfectly clear: This is an early beta release of OmniWeb 3. There are still many bugs, it is still very slow, and there are still many features which we have not yet implemented. I'm really not sure what more we could have said (other than to put that entire note in the filename instead of just in the README, announcements, and web page). (By the way, we did have an alpha release of OmniWeb 3, which we demonstrated at MacWorld Boston this year, and released to some individuals at Apple.) All that said, beta 3 (which I'll probably release Wednesday) is a lot more stable than beta 2. (But then, what else would you expect?) -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger) Subject: Re: simple [Q.]: cursor speed? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <EIGyxn.6L7@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> Sender: news@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk Organization: none References: <62ho7i$drb$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 20:15:22 GMT In <62ho7i$drb$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Thomas Harte wrote: > very simple [Q.]: > > how do I make my cursor move faster in a terminal window > (i use bash)? the control keys allow nice jumps but i always > wish that i could do something to make the arrow keys move > the cursor faster. > > [in the same vein] how do I make my vi &c scroll faster? In Preferences.app one can choose the 'keyboard hit rate' or so (don't know the exact english words). This should solve the above problem. Greetings Olaf -- Olaf Foellinger homepage: http://www1.stuttgart.netsurf.de/~ergo/ NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
From: wjs@spam.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Grumping about the new look (was Re: OS4.2 and a peak at DR) Date: 28 Oct 1997 08:42:54 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <6348ie$4gl$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <19971026211446102658@ti21a35-0005.dialup.online.no> John Kheit writes: > I think there is a fundamental shift in philosophy > for rhapsody. Basically mediocrity, compromise, assimilation, > habit, tradition, and familiarity over functionality and elegance. Apple saved OpenStep/Mach. I don't think Mach would have been a product for another year without Apple's interest. The market wanted OpenStep/NT, and it was clear that's where NeXT was heading. (Notice that new features like context menus don't work in OpenStep/Mach but do in OpenStep/NT? You can bet they work in Rhapsody.) Windows-NT, we can all agree, has a MUCH worse UI than MacOS 8. Not only did Apple preserve the OS we all love, but they've given us all the enhancements we were promised that weren't delivered when Mach's funding was cut at NeXT. Rhapsody DR has 4.4BSD, so it gets >2GB disk partitions, and the proc file system, and VFS, and the ability to check its disk and continue booting rather than rebooting (it's the little things). Premier should have multi-processor support, way ahead of Windows95. Apple is doing a great job of fixing longstanding bugs in OpenStep, and is introducing new classes that are much needed. And, their bug tracking system doesn't put bugs in a black hole. Now, on top of all this, I like the Mac OS 8 "Platinum Look" UI. I think it looks great in Rhapsody, and makes better use of space. The menu bar being at the top of the screen means we don't waste 200 pixels on the left side of the screen the way OpenStep/Mach does. The color scheme seems soothing, and when I return to OpenStep I think the black and grays are too harsh. Blah blah blah. But, my opinions aside, even if you totally hate the new look, don't you feel a little silly for ripping into Apple when all they've changed is the look of some widgets? They've left all the good stuff the same, and in fact they've improved on it. They've proven through their code and actions that they understand what makes OpenStep special and will fight to preserve it. All they changed is a couple stinking pixels! It isn't the look of the buttons that makes OpenStep seem elegant to me. If Apple wants rounded corners, if rounded corners helps me sell 10x the number of copies of OmniWeb to Mac users, than I say, "Round me corners, mateys!" -Wil
From: tyf@whitebox.primenet.com (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HP LaserJet 6P Driver ? Date: 28 Oct 1997 02:09:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <634a3d$gan@nntp02.primenet.com> Hi, It's a wide shot ... Anyone konws of a LJ 6P driver (Dots, GSFilter, JetPilot) that works with NS 3.3? Thanks!
From: wjs@spam.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb 3 beta 2 memory leaks and slowness, possible causes of Date: 28 Oct 1997 08:29:04 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <6347og$467$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> We've noticed a wide diversity of responses to OmniWeb 3, from "it's much faster" to "it's much slower and leaks a ton of memory". We did not expect it to be faster yet, since we haven't optimized it at all, but our internal testing reveals OmniWeb 3 to already be about the same speed as OmniWeb 2 for many pages. This is great news for us, since we switched from the old NSCStringText to the new NSTextView, and expected a massive slowdown in the process. One thing I'd like to point out is that there was a bug in OpenStep that was tickled by OW3 Beta 2 (the one you probably have) on many pages, which caused the NSText system to spew messages endlessly to the log. It does this in the background, so if you don't happen to notice the log is spewing, OmniWeb will (a) seem incredibly slow, and (b) use up memory constantly even when it is 'idle', as the log will grow without bounds until your machine runs out of memory and crashes. We have found a way to avoid this OpenStep bug in Beta 3 (unreleased, but soon). In the meantime, if you find OmniWeb 3 sucking down memory or being way, way slow, you might check the console (command-shift-C) to see if you're a-spewing. If so, kill and restart. If you are finding massive memory leaks (we expect little ones) and this isn't the cause, please, please tell us. -W
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <633ts7$oiq@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <633ts7$oiq@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> Date: 28 Oct 1997 05:52:17 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.633ts7$oiq@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> Sender: FREE CABLE<JACK67@PHOENIXAT.NET> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.camelot.de> Subject: Re: ISDN Monitoring ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7x7mayzzxx.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> To: Norbert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org> Sender: tm@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede) Organization: @heism (a non-prophet organization) References: <344B4513.4929@eso.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:57:46 GMT >>>>> "NP" == Norbert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org> writes: NP> Hi, Is there any software for OpenStep that allows a user to NP> monitor a CISCO 760 ISDN router? I would like to be able to NP> monitor the traffic on both ISDN lines, and have the ability NP> to switch them on/off manually if needed. I don't know the CISCO Router but I know my ZyXEL and I would do the following: - enable syslogging - run a script that constantly checks the output (tail or perhaps just FileSpy.app) - use expect to drop calls I haven't done it but this might point you in the right direction. Markus Gloede -- "no.spam@burrow.camelot.de" is a working address. When posting a followup, mailing a courtesy copy is appreciated, provided it is clearly marked as such. MIME and NeXT-Mail welcome.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: piers@ilink.de (Piers Uso Walter) Subject: Re: again, (sorry TjL!), NS 3.3 on Virtual PC on MacOS 8? Sender: news@charly.mediahaus.de (News System) Organization: Mediahaus Stroebel in Duesseldorf (Germany) Message-ID: <EIrB16.FE1@charly.mediahaus.de> References: <3454D8C6.CA6@phy.uab.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:12:41 GMT "James N. Greene" <greene@phy.uab.edu> writes > Several newsgroup posts and even Virtual PC's packaging suggest that > it is possible to install OPENSTEP on Virtual PC. I have NeXTSTEP > 3.3 running on a Turbo ColorStation and would like to install it on > my NuBus-class Mac. > I've tried installing 3.3 as suggested by the information > available from NeXTAnswers and Connectix, but installation hangs > consistently at > "Power Management is Enabled." ATAPI and IDE drivers seem to be > correct ... the Mach kernel seems to recognize both the CD and the > virtual IDE hard drive. > There are significant differences between NeXTSTEP and > OPENSTEP, but would any of those differences allow one to be > installed on Virtual PC but not the other? > We did sucessfully install Nextstep 3.3 on Virtual PC on our 7300/166. I guess that's a PCI Mac and no NuBus Mac, though. There is no reason whatsoever to assume that you could install Openstep but not Nextstep, so I guess you have a different problem. Some ideas: - it may not work at all on NuBus Macs (does anybody know this?) - you may want to disable your Macs energy saving features (as we did) - Virtual PC needs Nextstep/Intel, don't try to install the Motorola version you got for your Turbo ColorStation - that can't work. Piers -- "I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =- Piers Uso Walter - ilink GmbH <piers@ilink.de>
From: colombet@arles.timone.univ-mrs.fr (Bruno Colombet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPD files for lexmark printers pb Date: 28 Oct 1997 09:31:40 GMT Organization: Universites d' Aix en Provence Message-ID: <634bds$3kn$2@news.univ-aix.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I already asked here how to get drivers for lexmark printers. Someone said me: "PPD files shiped with the printer work fine!" Ok, I tried to use this PPD file and so I get the printer panel corresponding to my optra 1650 printer. But... it's impossible to print with this PPD, the printer says : "Offending command... configuration error". If I trie to print directly in Postscript it works fine... It seems that PPD files shiped with the printer don't work so fine. If somenone has and idea? Thanks
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.nos-pam@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 3 beta 2 memory leaks and slowness, possible causes of Date: 28 Oct 1997 13:07:09 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <634o1t$cv2$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <62udlp$q5b$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <6347og$467$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> wjs@spam.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) wrote: >We have found a way to avoid this OpenStep bug in Beta 3 (unreleased, but >soon). In the meantime, if you find OmniWeb 3 sucking down memory or >being way, way slow, you might check the console (command-shift-C) to see >if you're a-spewing. If so, kill and restart. Good point. In general, when running _any_ beta software, you should make sure to keep an eye on the system console. A convenient way of doing so is making use of a little app like "Spy.app", which will pop up a window whenever a new message gets logged, but stays out of the way otherwise. While I'm here.. I think OmniGroup is doing a great job. I'm sure looking forward to the release version of OmniWeb 3.0. Having to use Netscape every now and then makes me wanna scream (most of it is Windows95 GUI inconsistency though - those scrollbars really are *horrible*!). By the way, one of the greatest features OW has is being able to just drag the URL of a subframe into the URL well on top of the browser window. A great way to get rid of those useless and annoying frame based interfaces... :-))) Best wishes, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Pierre-Michel Tremblay <michel.tremblay@sqliaison.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there a DHCP Client Software for NS3.3 fip? Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:50:44 -0500 Organization: Sqliaison Inc. Message-ID: <3455EDB4.213F7C6A@sqliaison.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour All, What should I do (which software to get? How do I proceed once I have the right software?) in order to connect to my cable company which offers me a cable-modem access using a DHCP server? Is there a DHCP-client for NS3.3 fip available somewhere? Is there other If so, how do I proceed? -- Ciao. Michel. ------------------------------------- Name: Pierre-Michel Tremblay E-mail: Pierre-Michel Tremblay <michel.tremblay@sqliaison.com> SQLiaison Inc. 9900, Bd Cavendish, #200 St-Laurent, Quebec H4M 2V2 Tel: (514)333-6600 Ext. 140 Fax: (514)333-1080 In a free world who needs GATES?
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: OS4.2 and a peak at DR Date: 26 Oct 1997 22:28:31 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <630g6f$67i$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <62ofcf$bjp$1@news1.ucsd.edu> <344fd665.0@206.25.228.5> In article <344fd665.0@206.25.228.5>, John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> wrote: > Basically mediocrity, compromise, assimilation, >habit, tradition, and familiarity over functionality and elegance. Gee John, what kinds of tools do you use? Snap-On? What kind of car do you drive? A 500SEC? An F50? A Silver Shadow? Do you call Mr. Calvin Klein whenever you need a pair of underwear? Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Performance Availability & Solutions Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: Jess Nielsen <jnielsen@aabc.dk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 6P Driver ? Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:52:22 +0100 Organization: Århus købmandsskole Message-ID: <01bce3c2$85bdcba0$02030a0a@hb8.aabc.dk> References: <634a3d$gan@nntp02.primenet.com> Hi there, All drivers to HP devices can be downloaded from www.hp.com MVh Jess Nielsen Netværksadministrator tyf@whitebox.primenet.com (Tin-Yau Fung) skrev i artiklen <634a3d$gan@nntp02.primenet.com>... > Hi, > It's a wide shot ... > > Anyone konws of a LJ 6P driver (Dots, GSFilter, JetPilot) that > works with NS 3.3? Thanks! > > >
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <6353sc$7pn@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <6353sc$7pn@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Date: 28 Oct 1997 16:39:04 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.6353sc$7pn@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Sender: ATTRACT WOMEN NOW<miker45@crmaen.net> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: kennel@nospam.lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: OS4.2 and a peak at DR Date: 28 Oct 1997 19:18:17 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <slrn65cejp.6ga.kennel@lyapunov.ucsd.edu> References: <62ofcf$bjp$1@news1.ucsd.edu> <344fd665.0@206.25.228.5> <630g6f$67i$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> On 26 Oct 1997 22:28:31 GMT, Ken Lui <klui@cup.hp.com> wrote: :In article <344fd665.0@206.25.228.5>, John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> wrote: :> Basically mediocrity, compromise, assimilation, :>habit, tradition, and familiarity over functionality and elegance. : :Gee John, what kinds of tools do you use? Snap-On? What kind of :car do you drive? A 500SEC? An F50? A Silver Shadow? Do you call :Mr. Calvin Klein whenever you need a pair of underwear? A good UI doesn't cost as much as a Ferarri. If you were buying a Ferrari, how would you like it if the Buick designers made the new Ferrari supercar look like a Skylark, when there was a drop-dead sexy italian design before? -- * Matthew B. Kennel/Institute for Nonlinear Science, UCSD * * According to California Assembly Bill 3320, it is now a criminal offense * to solicit any goods or services by email to a CA resident without * providing the business's legal name and complete street address. *
From: sal@panix3.panix.com (Salvatore Denaro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: OS4.2 and a peak at DR Date: 28 Oct 1997 19:27:10 GMT Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <slrn65cf4e.m26.sal@panix3.panix.com> References: <62ofcf$bjp$1@news1.ucsd.edu> <344fd665.0@206.25.228.5> <630g6f$67i$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> <slrn65cejp.6ga.kennel@lyapunov.ucsd.edu> On 28 Oct 1997 19:18:17 GMT, Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply) <kennel@nospam.lyapunov.ucsd.edu> wrote: >A good UI doesn't cost as much as a Ferarri. If you were buying a Ferrari, >how would you like it if the Buick designers made the new Ferrari supercar >look like a Skylark, when there was a drop-dead sexy italian design before? I would much rather have an option of having it look like a Skylark when I park it on the street, and a Ferrari when I drive it. I hope AppLE has the vision to allow a people to chose from NS/AppLE/Win9X for the GUI. -- sal@panix.com Salvatore Denaro Yes, I use PGP.
From: Wassim M Jabi <jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:58:08 -0500 Organization: University At Buffalo Message-ID: <34565FF0.7B@writeme.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello: I have a library of NeXTSTEP Postscript Type 1 fonts that I purchased and would like to convert for use with Windows NT and Mac OS 8. Is it possible? Please e-mail me your suggestions at wj@writeme.com Thank you. -- Wassim Jabi, Assistant Professor Department of Architecture mailto:wj@writeme.com University at Buffalo Tel: +1 716.829.3485 Ext. 323 3435 Main St. - Hayes Hall Fax: +1 716.829.3256 Buffalo, NY 14214-3087
From: wfke@math.mit.edu (Wen-Fong Ke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb Problem Date: 28 Oct 1997 23:35:21 GMT Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics Message-ID: <635srp$t4b$1@galois.mit.edu> I got a problem when running OmniWeb at home. Console shows the following message and OmniWeb just quit: ---- Oct 28 18:31:21 tacoma OmniWeb[282]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 1b9d98 Oct 28 18:31:21 tacoma OmniWeb[282]: %%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: show ]%% Oct 28 18:31:21 [282] *nil* ---- Could someone tell me what's wrong and how to fix it? Thanks in advance. Wen-Fong Ke
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: socks on NS/OS? Date: 29 Oct 1997 00:42:13 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6360p5$r34$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone ever gotten socks* to compile under NeXTStep/OpenStep? I was wondering before I tried it... TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vrotney@netcom.com (William Paul Vrotney) Subject: NS 3.2 GNU tar question Message-ID: <vrotneyEIsM71.FEK@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:11:24 GMT Sender: vrotney@netcom5.netcom.com The -N (files newer than data option) of GNU tar mysteriously stopped working on my NS 3.2 system. For example set last = `cat .DUMPDATE` gnutar -cv -N "$last" -f /tmp/dump.tar . in a script that has been working for years suddenly stopped working on Oct 28 1997, ie. is does not filter out older dated files. When I hand feed gnutar dates I can't get any to work. Has anyone else had this problem? My gnutar is the original from NS 3.2 in /usr/bin/gnutar and if I do gnutar --version I get GNU tar version 1.11.2 So I down loaded gnutar 1.12 from prep.ai.mit.edu but its does not compile. Even if I do as the README file says for NeXT and do first env CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include/bsd/sys ./configure I get a suspiciously interesting compile error in the getdate area O2 -c getdate.c getdate.y: In function `difftm': getdate.y:871: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type getdate.y: In function `get_date': getdate.y:893: storage size of `tm' isn't known getdate.y:893: storage size of `tm0' isn't known getdate.y:899: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type (the GNU tar manual says that it uses getdate for the -N switch) and breaks the compile. Has anyone found a way around this? Thanks for any help. -- William P. Vrotney - vrotney@netcom.com
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: OS4.2 and a peak at DR Date: 29 Oct 1997 04:29:39 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <636e3j$i7f@mochi.lava.net> References: <62ofcf$bjp$1@news1.ucsd.edu> <344fd665.0@206.25.228.5> <630g6f$67i$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> <slrn65cejp.6ga.kennel@lyapunov.ucsd.edu> kennel@nospam.lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)) wrote: > On 26 Oct 1997 22:28:31 GMT, Ken Lui <klui@cup.hp.com> wrote: > :In article <344fd665.0@206.25.228.5>, John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> wrote: > :> Basically mediocrity, compromise, assimilation, > :>habit, tradition, and familiarity over functionality and elegance. > : > :Gee John, what kinds of tools do you use? Snap-On? What kind of > :car do you drive? A 500SEC? An F50? A Silver Shadow? Do you call > :Mr. Calvin Klein whenever you need a pair of underwear? > > A good UI doesn't cost as much as a Ferarri. Actually, it probably costs considerably more to design and implement. If you were buying a Ferrari, > how would you like it if the Buick designers made the new Ferrari supercar > look like a Skylark, when there was a drop-dead sexy italian design before? Since the "drop-dead sexy Italian design" was a commercial failure that was rapidly leading to the demise of the operating system, I'll take a functional Skylark over a junked Ferrari any day. All you have to do is take a look at what's on 90+% of all desktops to realize that beauty isn't apparently what sells. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 6P Driver ? Date: 28 Oct 1997 18:49:07 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <635c33$kim$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <634a3d$gan@nntp02.primenet.com> <01bce3c2$85bdcba0$02030a0a@hb8.aabc.dk> Nope 6P is NOT a postscript printer.. you would need ghostscript (free) or other commercial software to print. godwin Jess Nielsen (jnielsen@aabc.dk) wrote: : Hi there, : All drivers to HP devices can be downloaded from www.hp.com : MVh : Jess Nielsen : Netværksadministrator : tyf@whitebox.primenet.com (Tin-Yau Fung) skrev i artiklen : <634a3d$gan@nntp02.primenet.com>... : > Hi, : > It's a wide shot ... : > : > Anyone konws of a LJ 6P driver (Dots, GSFilter, JetPilot) that : > works with NS 3.3? Thanks! : > : > : >
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How can I 'Think Different(-ly)? when I can't even watch the QuickTime? Date: 29 Oct 1997 07:46:47 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <636pl7$45t$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried to d/l the 'think different' commercial from Apple.com and when I went to open it in QT I got a panel saying; File ad1.mov uses a missing or unusable ima4 decompressor. And console said: Oct 29 00:03:25 NEXTIME[15189] Sound Media: File ad1.mov uses a missing or unusable ima4 decompressor. (0) Anyone know how to get this to work with QT under OpenStep? TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Any AVIs which support `bit_cnt not 8' ? Date: 29 Oct 1997 07:48:57 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <636pp9$45t$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an AVI I'd really like to see (beagle from American Kennel Club) but it says: AVI: bit_cnt not 8 not supported whenever I try to read it. Does anyone know of any software which can play AVIs that have whatever this is? I asked a few months ago and got no replies... just found the file again when I was clearing out the old HD... TjL
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From: akira@home.com (Doug McClure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CDDesigner on burning large Nextstep disks Date: 29 Oct 1997 11:19:18 GMT Organization: @Home Network Message-ID: <63763m$co4$1@ha2.rdc1.sfba.home.com> Hi, I'm wondering if anyone out there is using CDDesigner to make disks on the NeXT? I'm trying to use it myself, or rather, I'm trying to test out the raw image writing capability, but it keeps crashing. I'm running the latest on 4.2, but fairly far through the directory creation process it just dies, because of a freed object. I'm trying to burn a backup of the Openstep CD itself, or rather a combined User + Developer with only certain packages, so that it's easier to install and setup machines at work. Shouldn't be that hard, but I can't get it to work. Any one else have any luck with this? And on a side question, CDDesigner can make a Next/Openstep CD, but mkisofs can only do ISO with Rock Ridge. Does anyone know if that's sufficient enough to copy the Openstep CD? -d
From: Lars Immisch <lars@ibp.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ISDN Monitoring ... Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:43:05 +0100 Organization: Immisch, Becker & Partner Message-ID: <34571339.1AC6@ibp.de> References: <344B4513.4929@eso.org> <632m4g$7ta$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chuck Swiger wrote: > > Norbert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org> wrote: > > Is there any software for OpenStep that allows a user to monitor a > > CISCO 760 ISDN router? I would like to be able to monitor the traffic > > on both ISDN lines, and have the ability to switch them on/off manually > > if needed. > > NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP ship with 'snmp', which lets you do SNMP queries. > > However, your ISDN router probably provides either telnetd or a serial cable > interface, which you could connect to using 'telnet' or something like > 'kermit'. Sorry, I missed the original post - but I do recall that Frank Siegert has written an snmp frontend for monitoring some Cisco - do have a look at www.this.net/~frank Cheers, Lars -- mailto:immisch@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~immisch Yesterdays yellow yoyo can make you yawn today
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to find the NeXTdimension demos apps... Date: 29 Oct 1997 18:44:19 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EIsBu8.z0@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <EIpzMs.Ar0@midway.uchicago.edu> <EIqCIA.7I1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <633kef$448$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > In <EIqCIA.7I1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote: > > In article <EIpzMs.Ar0@midway.uchicago.edu>, > > Andrew Chang <tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu> wrote: > > > >Whare is the VideoApp? > > > > This went away in 3.3. I seem to recall it being somewhere under > > /NextDeveloper/Examples in 3.2 (don't have a 3.2 machine handy to check.) > > That's a pretty impressive memory David: > > /NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.2/NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/VideoApp/ Just checked, it's also on the 3.3Dev CD. --Tom.
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb and `helper' apps Date: 29 Oct 1997 19:01:09 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <63815l$ifj$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <62r3eg$n7g$1@herald.Mines.EDU> David M. Wood (dmwood@tater.Mines.EDU) wrote: : I'm trying to arrange to have links to Mathematica 3.0 *.nb (Notebook : files) opened by Mathematica, but instead they are displayed in the window : as text files. Is there a way to change this behavior? You bet! The reason your notebook files are displayed as text is presumably because your web server is sending your notebook files with a mime type of "text/plain" (the default), indicating to the browser that the file is plain text and should be displayed as such. What you want to do is teach your web server to send notebook files as some other mime type, e.g. "application/x-mathematica". In many web servers, you would do this by editing the "mime.types" configuration file to include the line: application/x-mathematica nb OmniWeb will then see that it's not a mime type it knows how to handle, so it will save the file to disk and tell the Workspace to open it (as though you had double clicked on it)--which should cause it to be opened in Mathematica. Hope this helps! -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: dmwood@tater.Mines.EDU (David M. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb and `helper' apps Date: 24 Oct 1997 21:20:16 GMT Organization: Colorado School of Mines Distribution: usa Message-ID: <62r3eg$n7g$1@herald.Mines.EDU> Howdy! I'm trying to arrange to have links to Mathematica 3.0 *.nb (Notebook files) opened by Mathematica, but instead they are displayed in the window as text files. Is there a way to change this behavior? Thanks! -- David M. Wood Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401 Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840 http://www.physics.mines.edu/people/pages/wood.html e-mail: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing to a Program Date: 24 Oct 1997 21:01:26 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <62r2b6$qjl$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> I've set up some hacks so that if I call a program called "print-tokyo" (don't ask), and either pass it a postscript file or redirect a postscript file into it, it will do the majick necessary to print this file out to a printer that my NeXT box can't ordinarily see. The question I have is: how do you convince a NeXT machine (running 3.2) to automagically redirect its postscript output jobs to the stdin of a program instead of trying to print them? I'm sick of saving the print jobs and manually calling the program on them. _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: spiegel@splitting-maul.media.mit.edu (Dana Spiegel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rhapsody and emacs Date: 24 Oct 1997 17:50:57 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <62qn61$d8s@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Did I screw up my installation, or is emacs gone from rhapsody. I'd loathe to have to do my text editing in something else. -- Dana Spiegel spiegel@media.mit.edu NIF - The Canard Project http://canard.media.mit.edu
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From: lozinski@.openstepnews.com (Christopher Lozinski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.general,comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: OpenStep/WebObjects Newsletter Date: 24 Oct 1997 21:48:52 GMT Message-ID: <62r544$a89$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> Rhapsody News 1. Rhapsody User Interface 2. Rhapsody Text Object Changes 3. Rhapsody Lacks Macintosh Software 4. Java on Rhapsody 5. File System Adaptor Apple News 6. Inverse Hostile Takeover Fully Complete 7. Dave Manovich Resigns, Mitch Manditch Promoted 8. James McCluney Resigns from Apple 9. Apple Posts $161 Million Loss 10. Management Diversity at Apple 11. Macintosh Clones 12. WebObjects Advisory Board Meeting 13. NC Computers for Rhapsody Servers 14. Newton News 15. WebObjects Pricing Confusion Internet Connectivity 16. NeXTStep email applications. 17. Simple Email Connection 18. IP Forwarding and Masquerading 19. Linux and GnuStep 20. Network Configuration Services Products 21. OpenBase Lite Free on Rhapsody 22. NXFAX is Now Shareware 23. Fax Software 24. Stone Design Sale 25. Joy Explorer and Joy Developer for OPENSTEP/MachOS 26. Tiffany Has a New Web Site 27. Calliope Music Application 28. PDF Publishing 29. O2 Database Job Market 30. OpenStep Newsletter Job Market 31. OpenStep Human Resource Services 32. Software Disaster Management 33. Fixed Price Development Projects 34. Long-Term Career in the Deep South 35. Bay Area Developers 36. Washington Beltway 37. Bay Area Opportunity for Object Oriented Architect 38. Looking For A Long Term Career 39. Virginia unbelievable position 40. Seeking OpenStep/EOF Developers 41. Fun Position 42. Management Opportuinity 43. Chicago Opportunity 44. Northern California 45. San Francisco Bay Area Manufacturing Company. 46. San Francisco Bay Area 47. Other Positions Other 48. Canon Hardware 49. Windows NT Security Holes 50. Project Management 51. Subscriptions Now Available 1. Rhapsody User Interface The Rhapsody developer release is now shipping. The new Rhapsody User Interface looks very different from OpenStep. Evidently it looks much more like the Macintosh Operating System, Mac OS 8. The Mac menu bar runs across the top. Traditional tear-off menus are gone. The dock is along the bottom of the screen. The default file viewer looks like the Mac file viewer, but options allow for traditional NeXTStep browser modes. Applications and files can sit on the screen background as on the traditional Macintosh screen. Windows have menu bars inside of them and as the mouse hovers over each menu bar item, a tool tip pops up with a text description of what the button does. Whereas Rhapsody is made to look like a Macintosh, under the covers it is still Unix, and can be accessed with Terminal.app. Technically it is very much Mach. NxHosting Works. Preferences are based on bundles that get loaded at run-time. Multibutton mice were still being discussed when I saw the pre-release version of Rhapsody. And there are some definite improvements. For example, the Macintosh Style Keyboard Interface has been added to Rhapsody. When you need to configure the mouse, but do not have a mouse configured, it is no longer a problem. 2. Rhapsody Text Object Changes Text Object is significantly updated. The ruler is a separate class. The scroll bars on a text window can be together at the bottom, ala OpenStep, or at the top and bottom, ala Macintosh. Tooltips are included. Kerning is on by default. Ligatures are included. Automatic hyphenation is supplied. Kanji can be included in a Text Window. All kinds of images are supported including gif, png, pict, bmp, jpg, eps, and tiff. Text Objects can read and write to a rtf, rtfd file, or HTML file . And RTF no longer has 32K limits. 3. Rhapsody Lacks Macintosh Software The emphasis on the first release was Yellow Box on BSD. Blue Box is not currently included. Macintosh software such as quicktime, QTML, and QuickDraw3D are not currently included. Macintosh developers are obviously frustrated. Indeed, if Rhapsody is being positioned as a server, it is hard to see the need for Macintosh-based applications. 4. Java on Rhapsody Rhapsody as released includes a Java compiler integrated into the NeXT development suite. Java supports Garbage collection and offers complete access to the Yellow Box class libraries. Applications can be developed in Java with full access to the Rhapsody class libraries. Interface builder and project manager work with Java. All Java class libraries can be compiled and run, except Graphical User Interface classes. The Sun AWT libraries have not yet been ported over. Thus Apple Java applications can be run only wherever Yellow Box is available. Apple plans to be 100% Sun Java compatible. Apple also plans to also be 100% Appkit compatible, so the developers will have to choose which GUI library they want to use. Apple is really targeting, not just Java Applets, but full-blown Java Applications, with complete access to the local environment. 5. File System Adaptor The new Rhapsody has a file system adaptor, much like the EOF adaptor, so that different applications talk to the adaptor which talks to the file system. This allows multiple file systems to be used interchangeably. According to insiders, Rhapsody is entirely a component-based operating system, with any component fully replaceable. 6. Inverse Hostile Takeover Fully Complete The acquisition of NeXT by Apple is commonly referred to as an inverse hostile takeover, because the management of the smaller company, NeXT, has completely taken over control of the larger company, Apple. The list of ex-NeXT staff in senior Apple management is quite long. Steven Jobs is CEO, and Philip Schiller is the Vice President of Product Marketing & Product Management. Although not strictly from NeXT, Schiller came from FirePower, a hardware company formed when NeXT closed its factory. Jon Rubenstein is the Senior Vice President of Hardware Engineering. He also came from FirePower, and previously from NeXT. Avadis Tevanian, Jr. , previously from NeXT, is Senior Vice President of Software Engineering. Nancy R Heinen is Senior Vice President and General Counsel, and previously from NeXT. Mitch Manditch, is Senior Vice President of Sales for the Americas and acting International Vice President, also previously from NeXT. Even the head of the Newton Group is now reportedly an ex-NeXTer In fairness, some positions remain in the hands of old-guard Apple people. Fred Anderson is the CFO. Micheal Connor is the Vice President of Apple Reliability & Quality Assurance. Douglas Solomon is the Senior Vice President for Strategic Planning and Corporate Development. David Roman is Vice President of Advertising & Brand Communications. Maxwell Paley is the "junior" Vice President of Software Engineering. James Gable is Vice President of Platform & Technology Marketing, and David Krathwohl is Vice President of Developer Relations. In rereading this section, I realize that far more ex-NeXTers have the word "senior" in their title. It makes me wonder whether these Apple old guards carry as much influence as the ex-NeXTers. Apple frequently says that 50% of the Rhapsody staff are Apple people. That may well be true, but it is clear that many of the positions of authority have been taken by NeXT staff. What I see is that the company is being run very much like NeXT: very efficiently and very focussed on the current objectives. At the same time, there is a large infrastructure of Apple people, and Apple procedures that are being being retained. 7. Dave Manovich Resigns, Mitch Manditch Promoted Dave Manovich, the Senior Vice President of International Sales resigned from Apple. His is one more departure from the existing Apple Management Staff. His position is being filled temporarily by Mitch Manditch, Vice President of Sales for the Americas and an ex-NeXTer. Personally, I was surprised that this departure took so long. It is natural to wonder how long the interim status of key figures such as Steven Jobs, and Mitch Manditch will continue. I also wonder who else will be leaving. 8. James McCluney Resigns from Apple James McCluney was the Senior Vice President of Worldwide Operations, in charge of manufacturing, logistics, and warehousing. He is one more of the old guard leaving a senior position at Apple. 9. Apple Posts $161 Million Loss Apple posted a net loss of $161 million for the fourth quarter of its fiscal year. Of that loss, $119 Million were charges that Apple took related to the acquisition of Power Computing. Also in the news last week, Moodies downgraded Apples bond rating. All of this during a quarter when Apple shipped Mac OS 8. 10. Management Diversity at Apple At the Seybold conference, Steve Jobs was asked about the scarcity of women in upper management at Apple Computer. His reply was: " If you send me the names of great people, who happen to be women..." . In contrast, Hugh McColl the CEO of one of Apple's Clients was quoted as saying: "We stand at the intersection of diversity and economic opportunity. The opportunity for most U.S. corporations is limited by their failure to utilize diversity. We must understand how to manage a diverse work force. It means the opposite of being race-blind or color-neutral. It means looking at our differences and the strengths those differences represent in the business arena. Those differences translate into skills, perspectives and alternative ways of thinking that can distinguish us from our competitors. And if there is one thing that unites us at this company - it's winning." Prior to the inverse hostile takeover, Apple had two women in senior management, and one asian Indian. One of the women, Heidi Roizen, has rejoined the workforce, and is now on the board of Be Inc. Accordingly, we are making a special effort to help our clients find more diverse employees. If you are or know a woman, minority, or disabled OpenStep or WebObjects person please let us know, and we will represent your diversity to our hiring managers. If you are a hiring manager who wishes to learn more about these issues, give Vernetta a call at 510-795-6086. 11. Macintosh Clones Umax has licensed Mac OS 8, and will be releasing new products. Umax is now empowered to sub-license, and has done so to two ex-Motorola sub-licensees: PowerTools, and MacTell Corp. Although Steve argued that the licensees balked at paying their fair share of the cost of the Mac OS, the insiders I know dispute that version of history. I have yet to hear a compelling business case why Apple should not have licensed the operating system at say $400/copy. Word has it that Motorola would have paid up to $600/ license. A more compelling argument is that Steve likes being in the hardware business, and just did not want clone vendors. So he raised their risk of doing business to the point where Motorola dropped out. In a related rumor, I heard that a group is trying to reverse engineer the Mac ROM, and thus bypass the need to license the Mac OS. 12. WebObjects Advisory Board Meeting On Oct 26-28, the Web Objects Advisory Board will be meeting, to help advise Apple on the future directions of the WebObjects Platform. Please fill me in if you know who is on the board or what they will discuss. 13. NC Computers for Rhapsody Servers It looks like Apple is making a big push for providing low-cost Network Computing clients for Rhapsody servers. Significant investment continues to be made in the Mac OS to migrate it in that direction. The Newton is being repositioned as an NC client, and Rhapsody is being positioned as an Internet server. 14. Newton News Apple cancelled its spin-off of the Newton division and appointed an ex-NeXTer to run the group. Steve Jobs had been in favor of spinning off the Newton, but since Larry Elison joined the board, Newton has been reabsorbed into Apple. Reportedly Apple is working on bringing out a low-cost NC computer based on the Newton. The design of the Newton allows for the construction of very low-cost computers. It would be amusing if Apple's future growth were to come from the Newton, which was created during the leadership of Sculley. 15. WebObjects Pricing Confusion I have had a corporate client complain to me about the variability in WebObjects pricing. The client had once heard about a 7K offer, but then could not get more information about that price. I have also had an independent software vendor complain about the confusion over the WebObjects licensing rules. They could not tell if they were operating within the rules of the license, and were scared to ask. I do not think that people mind Apple setting their prices high, but I can understand objections to the lack of a clearly defined pricing and use policy. The confusion creates the impression that Apple modifies its prices to get the most from a potential client. 16. NeXTStep email applications. There are three email server applications for NeXTStep: SendMail, Smail, and Qmail. SendMail is what everyone uses, but it is so complex that if anything should go wrong, It could take a long time to figure out. Of course some people do like it. The second application, Smail, includes the NetInfo bindings. (I know the person who added them seven years ago), but I could not find a copy of smail that was precompiled and tested, so it could take some time to get running. Qmail is newer, faster, and simpler, but I also could not find it compiled for NeXTStep, and it also does not support NetInfo. 17. Simple Email Connection Configuring email is only difficult on the email server. Once you have an upgraded server, the rest is easy. There is no need to change the NeXTStep client SendMail applications. Set your mailhost in HostManager to be the mail server. Even if you do not have a network, and are running just a single NeXTStep computer, this should work. The trick is to use your ISP's SendMail configuration. Michael Gen try <Michael.Gentry@MCI.Com> writes: "Open HostManager.app, define "mailhost" to be your internet service provider's e-mail server, and you are done (well, it works just fine on my NeXTstation that way :-). The problem with retrieving mail via PopOver.app still exists, though. " Actually if you run Eloquent, it reads Pop Mail boxes, so that problem is solved also. 18. IP Forwarding and Masquerading The best solution I have found for an Internet gateway is to run a Linux box which supports IP Forwarding and Masquerading. Multiple client computers can connect to the Linux server, which forwards IP requests across the dynamically assigned modem connection. The other advantages of Linux are great security, a very large and complete collection of drivers, ability ro run a wide range of internet software, and the reassuring fact that it has been carefully tested. The disadvantage is that Linux is based on the Unix System V model, and NeXT Developers prefer BSD, which is the core of Rhapsody. I continue to work on improving my network. I am not entirely happy with my current NeXT box working as an Internet gateway. For every Internet application I want to run on the other machines, I have to set up a proxy application on the NeXTStep gateway computer. Finally, the black boxes have very slow modem connections compared to my Intel hardware. Alas NeXTStep cannot do Masquerading and Forwarding. Theoretically, there is a switch to turn it on, but it does not work. I presume that Rhapsody will support IP Forwarding and Masquerading. Alas for me to get a copy, I need to sign a non-disclosure statement which would not sit well as a member of the press. 19. Linux and GnuStep Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, has recently taken an interest in GNUStep (and recommended it as "a very interesting development" to the main developers of Linux). One reader writes: The UI is coming along nicely... using the AfterStep WM, I have an environment that looks and acts somewhat like NS-- but is *lots* faster... it makes NeXTStep running on the same hardware seem pokey. Most importantly; Linux is one of the primary development platforms for GnuStep-- the free implementation of OpenStep. Andrew McCallum has done an INCREDIBLE job so far. GNU's implementation of the foundation kit is far and away the best out there; better than NeXT's even. It has some slight incompatibilities on the DO front, but fixes many bugs and adds many features that are not found in any other implementation. As well, there are a number of *additional* classes that are very cool. 20. Network Configuration Services If you have a small network with a LInux Server; you need to serve a number of NeXTStep, Windows and Macintosh clients; and you wish to get everything configured to work together and connected to the Internet, let me know. I have a person here is who is helping me with my network, and he would love to help you install yours. 21. OpenBase Lite Free on Rhapsody The single-user version of the OpenBase Database will be shipped free with the Rhapsody product. <http://www.openbase.com> Of course, you still have to pay for the multi-user version. 22. NXFAX is Now Shareware In the previous newsletter, I mistakenly wrote that NXFAX is now freeware. In fact, it is now shareware. Check out: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/comm/NXFax.1.04.README The password is supplied so that you can fully test it with your system without cost, but you are supposed to send in payment to use it. 23. Fax Software Olaf Mueller <olaf@orest.escape.de> ,a German OpenStep programmer, has created a Voice/Fax/Data application called OlafAM. He is working on a caller ID feature. It's like NXFax, but it has the additional capability of Voice Mail. Although it uses NetInfo, it doesn't yet work as a domain-based resource (it's in the queue for a future release). Olaf wrote it as a reaction to Patrick Stein's "am" freeware program, which only supported one modem (ZyXEL), and wasn't as reliable as NXFax. One reader reports that he replaced NXFax with OlafAM some time ago, and really likes the application. OlafAM can be configured to email faxes and voicemail into your mailbox. I believe it's on both Peanuts and Peak... check it out. 24. Stone Design Sale For $199 you can buy the StoneWare suite consisting of DataPhile(TM), the multi-media, easy to use database manager, Create(TM), the powerful graphics package, 3DReality(TM), a 3D modeler and renderer, and CheckSum(TM), a check writer and finance manager. Offer good until Nov 2nd. 1997. www.stone.com 25. Joy Explorer and Joy Developer for OPENSTEP/MachOS Here is a new product. From what I can understand from the product blurb, this is an interpreter on OpenStep on Mach: http://www.aaa-plus.com/joy/download.html Let me know what you think. 26. Tiffany Has a New Web Site Tiffany is a photo editing application for OpenStep. At this point, it does not look like Adobe will be migrating to OpenStep in the near future, so Tiffany will remain the photo Eeditor of choice for a while. You can get more information about the company from their web site:http://www.caffeineSoft.com or email them at: info@caffeineSoft.com. The tiffany documentation is scheduled for a significant upgrade. If you need someone who knows how to fly the application let me know. 27. Calliope Music Application The Calliope Music Application, and other NeXTStep music related resources are now available at <http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~mrozek/nextmusic/> Calliope gives one complete music notation! And it plays and follows the score! It comes with 2 dozen classical pieces. 28. PDF Publishing PDF is a format developed by Adobe to allow for elegantly formatted documents to be read on any operating system. Unlike HTML, PDF looks the same on any operating system. If you are looking to publish Postscript Display Format (PDF) documents using Apple development tools, consider using the Report Mill product. Check out www.reportmill.com 29. O2 Database My interest in the O2 database continues to grow. I am planning on using it for an on-line version of my resume database. The Excalibur Image Searching Database is based on the O2 Database. For a while, it was listed on the Yahoo and Infoseek home pages. For clients who wish to track their customers web access patterns, the O2 database makes it very easy to create a list of clients, each of which refers to a list of sessions, each of which refers to a list of URLs visited at the site. That data can then be queried in the on-line database, or in a duplicate data warehouse, in a very natural fashion. O2 is available on most Unix platforms, and also on NT, and the client API is still supported on NeXTStep 3.3. Perhaps we can find enough customers for them to port the client API to Rhapsody. 30. OpenStep Newsletter Job Market Business is booming. We know large numbers of companies looking for OpenStep Developers, Testers, Managers, Architects, etc. We even have a steady demand for contractors. We are also increasing the flow of candidates through the system. With the two of us working here, we have been able to handle a much much larger volume, which means that we are actively in touch with more hiring managers, and more developers than ever before. Vernetta and I have painfully come to learn what we both do best, and we make a very powerful team. If you want to participate in the job market, let us know. I think that you will find it a very pleasant rewarding experience. 31. OpenStep Human Resource Services If you are an OpenStep company in need of Human Resource services, please consider using my partner Vernetta. She really understands OpenStep. She understands what motivates NeXTStep developers. For starters, she can review your human resources procedures, and inform you of what your organization needs. She can help you create an effective interview process, create market based salary structures, and assist you with resolving employee relations crises. She can help you create an employee manual, and institute procedures such that you are legally safe from gender and race bias issues. Whatever your human resources needs may be, Vernetta can help, she is an experienced HR professional with more than fifteen years experience and she has the right mix of NeXTSTep and Human Resource experience. If interested, send her email at wilson@openstepnews.com 32. Software Disaster Management If you have a software project that has been a disaster, with schedules that were exploded, budgets that look like holes, and a business that is hurting, please let me know. I know two very senior managers who specialize in helping clients like you in the OpenStep community. They come in, establish a set of objectives, determine what needs to be accomplished to meet those objectives, get the team to buy into the plan, and do what it takes to execute the plan on schedule and within budget. 33. Fixed Price Development Projects Consider contracting out a significant project on a fixed-price basis. I know a number of well qualified teams who will pick up the risk in your NeXT project, and give you fixed-priced fixed-schedule delivery. Let me know if you are interested. 34. Long-Term Career in the Deep South Put your faith in this company. They are large, wealthy and very well managed. They are looking for people who want to develop both personally, and as part of the organization. Technically, they are a large NeXTStep group running internationally distributed applications against both Sybase and Oracle Servers. They are very interested in integrating Java into their existing software infrastructure. They take the time to do their designs and analysis carefully, and really make a point in investing in the human infrastructure. This is a beautiful part of the country, with a great cost of living, and wonderful benefits including educational initiatives. 35. Bay Area Developers A small company in the South San Francisco Bay area is seeking a well-motivated person interested in building your skills in web-based database applications. You will design and implement server/database applications for a large-scale web server database project. You will concentrate on designing and integrating applications over a distributed database network for the WWW. Will see this product through from start to finish. Need experience in taking complex software solutions through an entire product lifecycle, from OO analysis and design to implementation, deployment, and support. Web Server application work, Java knowledge, internet commerce, NEXT's WebObjects development platform is highly desirable. Stock is available. 36. Washington Beltway Here is a company that is building a requirements definition application on OpenStep on Windows NT. The group is very skilled at managing schedules, deliverables, and customer expectations. They also have great object deployment methodologies. For the developer who knows OpenStep, but wants to learn more about good consulting business practices, this place would be a great training ground. They are willing to take developers who have as little as two years commercial experience, and really show them how a very professional consulting organization runs. It is a very mature consulting organization that can teach a developer a lot about customer interaction, managing expectations, and professionalism. I know the hiring manager personally. I really like him. Very intelligent considerate person. 37. Bay Area Opportunity for Object Oriented Architect One of the leaders in the manufacturing equipment industry is looking for developers who are hoping to utilize the NextStep development environments to create a consistent graphical user interface (GUI) to its tools. You will be involved in the further development of critical applications for the companies' customers. You will design, engineer/architect, and participate in identifying requirements, designs, and implementating GUI's on the next generation product. Working with a small, fun-loving, aggressive team, you will take responsibility for technology insertion, and performance issues, and provide state-of-the-art solutions right to the desktops of customers. Desired experience in the following: GUI design and development, OLE,DLL,custom window component design. Use of various GUI CASE tools. Graphics art design tools, application development on Windows NT, NeXTStep. Objective-C is also desired. This company also offers six week sabbaticles. 38. Looking for a Long Term Career If you are a team player who is ambitious, hardworking, with a degree in computer science we have the job for you. As a member of the Technical Architecture Team, you will be in the unique position to be working on the creation and support of an extensive, robust application infrastructure for building production trading systems. Additionally, since this infrastructure will exist on both OPENSTEP/Mach and OpenStep/NT, you will be working in a multi-platform environment, utilizing your skills with Unix, as well as Windows NT operating systems. You will be delivering commercial-quality software-testing solutions to internal development groups, and helping to manage general software re-use in the group's software library. This includes the design and implementation of a complete testing strategy for internal products as well as applications built on those products. Requirements: Experience with automated regression testing, or test scaffolding for applications. Experience in software re-use efforts a significant plus. Solid operating system knowledge on Unix and knowledge of Windows/NT is also a plus. Knowledge of SQL and RDBMS desired; detailed knowledge of Sybase System 11 a significant plus. These guys will even help finance your house. Chicago Area. 39. Virginia unbelievable position This is it. If you have had it with coding all day long, and would like a position where you have no deliverables, and get to talk to people all day long, then this job is for you. You even get stock options in a very promising company. 40. Seeking OpenStep/EOF Developers Join a team of developers writing a client-server, Oracle-based, call tracking package to be used by world wide customer service staff. Individuals should be well versed in OpenStep and sound OO development practices, work well in a team, and have above average verbal and written communication skills. The bulk of the project teams are in Massacusetts. This company is willing to pay $50-60/hr for NeXTStep developers with just two years of experience. 41. Fun Position Looking for experienced programmers and Webmasters to assist young, creative team of interactive designers. Prefer individuals with IIS or Netscape server software and related ISAPI/NSAPI experience for programmer. Webmasters should have heavy database integration experience and must know SQL. Legacy experience with CICS, SNA, and Oracle a stong plus. Strong object oriented development skills. Immediate training will be availble in Apple WebObjects. 42. Management Opportuinity If youÂre ready for a creative and management challenge with plenty of responsibility, we have the job for you!!! This company is looking for a take charge leader to manage a Web team and take the corporate Web sites to new heights. This position is for an experienced Internet marketing professional possessing equal parts technical expertise, creativity, and managerial savvy. You will lead internal and external site vision and development. You will plan, refine, and maintain the Web sites' marketing efforts, ensuring corporate image consistency worldwide, and ensuring that the companyÂs Internet presence supports its strategic and tactical marketing objectives. Requires a bachelorÂs degree in communications, marketing,and/or programming, and fluency in all aspects of Web technology, including Java, WebObjects, HTML, CGI and PERL. Must have demonstrable strategic thinking, writing, graphic design, and site architecture skills, and know how to address virtual audiences from a benefits perspective. The ability to plan and implement programs and content on time, and market the companyÂs sites throughout the Internet, is critical. Knowledge of how MIS and product marketing managers interact with marketing to maintain a corporate and product-centric internet presence is also critical. 43. Chicago Opportunity This company has a robust NeXTStep group that is growing full-tilt. They have a separate Java group that is growing even faster. Great Caferia on site. Super benefits. They even pay bonuses if the traders using your software do well. It is a very strong group technically. Very well managed company. They are even willing to consider European candidates. 44. Northern California This company in a truely beautiful part of Northern California is looking for NeXTStep engineers for a Java project. The senior position is for someone to be a mentor to the company. The job is to train and advise the more junior developers on the technical details of NeXTStep, on good design practices, and on other software-related issues. The other positions are for people who will primarily be Java developers. This company will even happily train experienced NeXTStep developers in Java. 45. San Francisco Bay Area Manufacturing Company. If you like the environment provided by manufacturing/transportation companies, then you will love this place. Their straight NeXTStep software is used to make real-time decisions about the production operations. The software needs to model the real world accurately, and give good production decisions quickly. The company is dependent on your software, and the business needs drive the development process. If you want to develop software that matters, this is your chance. 46. San Francisco Bay Area This company really takes care of theri staff. For them employee retention is an absolute top priority so they put a lot of effort into making sure that the people are happy at the company. This company performs a lot of different projects for their clients, so that there is a real opportunity to develop a wide range or OpenStep and Java related skills. 47. Other Positions We have a lot more positions open, but frankly I want to limit the length of the newsletter. Let us know where your interest lies, and we will do what we can for you. 48. Canon Hardware I recently acquired a Canon ObjectStation, from a Bay Area NeXTStep company that had downsized dramatically. The ObjectStation is now dual-booting Windows 95 and NeXTStep. I gave up waiting for a reasonably priced HTML editor on NeXTStep 3.3, and am now trying out WebExpress. If all goes well, you should see a very active Web site here real soon now. I found the audio drivers for the ObjectStation at <http://www.oaktech.com/audtech.html> and got the file: mztw95.zip 49. Windows NT Security Holes The Windows NT C3 security rating was achieved when the computer was not networked. When networked, there are significant security holes in Windows NT. (Source: <www.avian.org> Warning Strong Language) I continue to be amazed that large organizations are willing to commit their entire network to a proprietary operating system, with no source code availability, and significant security loopholes. Linux sounds a lot less risky to me. 50. Project Management One of my clients is an expert on project management. His company is developing OpenStep software to gather, document, and manage customer requirements. He thinks of the software as supporting multiple versions of the customer business, evolving over time. He focuses on delivering software that meets the requirements of the current version of the business. The software only needs to be good enough for the objective at hand. This allows him to manage the investment, effort, and feature creep. There is value from the demo, the initial release, a production release, and a bomb proof release. Bells and Whistles which have minimal value to the business objectives need to be avoided. Even the less-than-necessary requirements can be deferred. He even discourages CEO requirements which are not needed by the people executing the business processes. I think that he has a good philosophy which many developers could benefit from. 51. 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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <639cmi$hd$10592@hyperion.nitco.com> Control: cancel <639cmi$hd$10592@hyperion.nitco.com> Date: 30 Oct 1997 07:31:44 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.639cmi$hd$10592@hyperion.nitco.com> Sender: <myemail@any.where.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: * Is Rhapsody supposed to come with a Web Browser? Date: 24 Oct 1997 21:55:09 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <62r5ft$loa$1@cronkite.cygnus.com> References: <62qbah$bnh$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <62ql7j$erl$1@brnws01.ne.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: sschuldt@mediaone.net In <62ql7j$erl$1@brnws01.ne.mediaone.net> Steven W. Schuldt wrote: > BTW: For any running OPENSTEP 4.2 do _NOT_ install this pig (OmniWeb 3) on > your system if browsing the web is at all important to you. You'll love the > animated .gifs, but you will hate the speed loss, the massive memory leaks and > general comprehensive wackness of this work in progress. I shudder to think > that it might be this bad on Rhapsody, and that people's first experience with > Omni and OpenStep web browsing is such a smoky pile of pizzle. OmniWeb 2.5 > rules (2.5, _not_ 2.7 or higher). Get it off peak and wait for OmniGroup to > get 3.x out of diapers (hopefully soon). I must _strongly_ agree here. I love Omniweb.. it's my favorite browser on any platform. But this is a very VERY rough beta. I walked away from it while I went to lunch, and it consumed 322mb of disk space with memory leaks in one hour of being mostly idle. (we all know what Nextstep/Openstep is like when you fill up the swapable partitions, right?) Do _not_ make the mistake of thinking this is a user usable beta like many of Omni's previous OmniWeb betas. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Thought for the day: According to the supreme court, proof of innocence isn't enough to avoid execution if you've exhausted your appeals.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any AVIs which support `bit_cnt not 8' ? Date: 29 Oct 1997 11:06:14 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <6375b6$snh$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <636pp9$45t$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > I have an AVI I'd really like to see (beagle from American Kennel Club) but > it says: > AVI: bit_cnt not 8 not supported I have several files with the same problem - I never found anything to read then under NS. I keepp an NT partition lying around to boot up and deal with little problems like this... -bat.

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