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From: distinct.systems@mailbox.swipnet.se (Ulf Olsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Support of ISDN & Apache Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:12:03 +0200 Organization: Distinct Systems AB Message-ID: <distinct.systems-2608971412030001@dialup116-8-7.swipnet.se> Cache-Post-Path: mn8!s-35932@dialup116-8-7.swipnet.se Hi, I downloaded Apache 1.2.4 and installed it on Prerelease to Rhapsody and it works so far. Question: Is there any ISDN card support for Openstep on PC? Ulf Olsson Distinct Systems AB Ulf Olsson
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.programmer Subject: definition of DIR in ghostscript-5.03 compile Date: 30 Aug 1997 18:02:27 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5uafr3$ol6@slip.net> Hi, Upon compiling ghostscript-5.03 on NeXTSTEP 3.3. Compiling balks With an undefined type 'DIR' on the following code : typedef struct dirstack_s dirstack; struct dirstack_s { dirstack *next; DIR *entry; }; gs_private_st_ptrs1(st_dirstack, dirstack, "dirstack", dirstack_enum_ptrs, dirstack_reloc_ptrs, next); None of the *.h files in the distribution define DIR and upon grepping the code in /usr/include/bsd there was no definition there either? Any suggestions? Thanks, Emmett
From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processor for OpenStep? Date: 31 Aug 1997 01:54:53 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <5uaitd$a86$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <1997Aug29.211114.1@spcvxb.spc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 0schrier_j@spcvxb.spc.edu In <1997Aug29.211114.1@spcvxb.spc.edu> 0schrier_j@spcvxb.spc.edu wrote: > In <eharley-2508971911390001@ppp-207-214-149-125.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric > Harley wrote: > > Does anybody know of a good Word Processor I can get for Mach on intel? > > I tried www.lighthouse.com and I couldn't find a word about OpenStep > > programs. Nadda, nothing, all this java crap, but nothing about WriteUp. > > LaTeX. It RULEZ! :-) > > Okay, so maybe it's not a word-processor, per-say, more of a typesetting > program, but you can use it for to write reports and stuff. > > --Josh You can also look on any of the regular ftp-sites for next. They have demos (and in the case of Lighthouse even free full license). Lighthouse offers OpenWrite, which is the only one I've worked with. In addition there are WriteUp by Anderson Financial Co and Cedar words or so... Ah, and Pages, which is HUGE and very costly, as I remember.. Anyway, that's all I know, but these products should do for any purpose. BUT, they are NS3.3 products, and not specifically Openstep. Right , adios Martin
From: michael@hesta.com (Michael Verruto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CAD shareware? Date: 31 Aug 1997 03:28:28 GMT Organization: HPI Capital, LLC Message-ID: <5uaocs$a8f@corporate.hesta.com> Is there a CAD (2d is fine) program around anywhere? I need to do some major remodeling on my home and don't want to even THINK of getting a windows based product like AutoCAD LT. Like swatting flies with a *broken* sledgehammer. Thanks michael@hesta.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <10179872395226@digifix.com> Date: 31 Aug 1997 03:53:18 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <16621873000033@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: definition of DIR in ghostscript-5.03 compile Date: 31 Aug 1997 09:30:59 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5ubdkj$m1d@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> References: <5uafr3$ol6@slip.net> In article <5uafr3$ol6@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes: > >Hi, > >Upon compiling ghostscript-5.03 on NeXTSTEP 3.3. > >Compiling balks With an undefined type 'DIR' >on the following code : > > >typedef struct dirstack_s dirstack; >struct dirstack_s { > dirstack *next; > DIR *entry; >}; >gs_private_st_ptrs1(st_dirstack, dirstack, "dirstack", > dirstack_enum_ptrs, dirstack_reloc_ptrs, next); > > >None of the *.h files in the distribution >define DIR and upon grepping the code in >/usr/include/bsd there was no definition >there either? > >Any suggestions? > grep is a rather primitive way of searching header files under NS. Open the developer bookshelf using Digital Librarian and select the header files and man pages. A keyword search will turn up everything you want to know. >Thanks, > >Emmett > > -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: SB16 value PNP will work with Openstep 4.1 ? Date: 31 Aug 1997 10:08:16 GMT Message-ID: <01bcb5f5$d2378480$040e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> Hello Next-Users, I have a little problem with my new Openstep 4.1 config : My PC : Intel P200 32 Mo SDram Diamond stealth 3D 3000 PCI Cd 12x Creative Labs IDE Creative Labs SB16 value PNP But the system doesn't recognize the SB16 sound card, but the bios recognize it (we can see SB 16 PNP when the system bios is booting). This sound card work correctly on a Windows 95 PC system. I'd try to change the slot of the card, to put the driver before installing the card, to install the card before installing the driver, to load new driver on Nextanswers, ...but the card still mute. Please I'm waiting for your help... Laurent BARNILS solfra@worldnet.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Zyxel U1496E and NS3.3 Message-ID: <EFsCMs.6CL@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <hhbu2fpedw.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 16:04:04 GMT In article <hhbu2fpedw.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> writes: > > I've been trying out JollysZyxelDriver, and have been getting fairly > poor results...I'm curious as to what other users are using...is NFax > worth it? > I don't know what your concept of a poor result is. But did you tell Jolly? Concerning NXFax, I'd say you should give it a try. There's an evaluation copy on the usual archives. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processor for OpenStep? Date: 31 Aug 1997 10:35:53 -0700 Organization: Darkside Message-ID: <hhafhyp85i.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> References: <1997Aug29.211114.1@spcvxb.spc.edu> <5uaitd$a86$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) writes: > In <1997Aug29.211114.1@spcvxb.spc.edu> 0schrier_j@spcvxb.spc.edu wrote: > > In <eharley-2508971911390001@ppp-207-214-149-125.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric > > Harley wrote: > > > Does anybody know of a good Word Processor I can get for Mach on intel? > > > I tried www.lighthouse.com and I couldn't find a word about OpenStep > > > programs. Nadda, nothing, all this java crap, but nothing about WriteUp. > > Well, depending on what you want to do, Emacs certainly qualifies as a good wordprocessor. .mycroft
From: Bastian Schlueter <Bastian.Schlueter@blns.siemens.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SB16 value PNP will work with Openstep 4.1 ? Date: 31 Aug 1997 12:21:18 GMT Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe Message-ID: <5ubnju$6fh@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <01bcb5f5$d2378480$040e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> Organisation: RRR Hello Laurent, "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> wrote: > I have a little problem with my new Openstep 4.1 config : [...] > Creative Labs SB16 value PNP > > But the system doesn't recognize the SB16 sound card, but the bios > recognize it (we can see SB 16 PNP when the system bios is booting). This > sound card work correctly on a Windows 95 PC system. > Did you have the latest Soundblaster Driver?. I have a Soundblaster 16 Value PNP and it works under NEXTSTEP 3.3. Since the card was a bulk version NEXTSTEP didn't recognise it out of the box. I had to change the "Auto Detect IDs" line in /private/Drivers/i386/SoundBlaster16.config/SB16PnP.table to recognize the card. The value you have to add there can be found with the /private/Drivers/i386/EISABus.config/PnPDump utility. hth Bastian [posted + mailed] -- e-mail: Bastian.Schlueter@blns.siemens.de http://www.first.gmd.de/~buzz RRR100R -- Was wir da machen ist verboten, aber es ist wunderbar (TSS) --
From: mrkai@sakurakai.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mSQL of Peark.org Date: 31 Aug 1997 20:52:21 GMT Organization: @Home Networks Message-ID: <5ucli5$fpp$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hiya! could someone with a few minutes compile.package this thing for me? I'm attempting to do something potentially useful with my free time: learning some dialect of SQL. But, alas, I have no compiler... I'd be grateful if some good soul could compile this for me. Thanks, Kai
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <81f7cd$10271c.71@NEWS> Control: cancel <81f7cd$10271c.71@NEWS> Date: 31 Aug 1997 21:27:00 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.81f7cd$10271c.71@NEWS> Sender: grants@ForYou.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Date: 31 Aug 1997 20:45:40 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ucl5k$5g4$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> References: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> wrote: >Hello next-web afficionados, > > >I don't know how I can expand the files with the extension b.tar.gz with >Openstep for Mach 4.1. > The ending .b. indicates it's a binary and is of no further use. tar indicates 'TAR' archives and gz indicates 'GnuZIP. You can use gunzip and tar -x together or use gnutar -zxf <file> Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de)
From: ryan@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processor for OpenStep? Date: 31 Aug 1997 21:51:04 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5ucp08$nh5$4@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <1997Aug29.211114.1@spcvxb.spc.edu> <5uaitd$a86$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> <hhafhyp85i.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> wrote: >martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) writes: > >> In <1997Aug29.211114.1@spcvxb.spc.edu> 0schrier_j@spcvxb.spc.edu wrote: >> > In <eharley-2508971911390001@ppp-207-214-149-125.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric >> > Harley wrote: >> > > Does anybody know of a good Word Processor I can get for Mach on intel? >> > > I tried www.lighthouse.com and I couldn't find a word about OpenStep >> > > programs. Nadda, nothing, all this java crap, but nothing about WriteUp. You can find the old NEXTSTEP apps by Lighthouse at next-ftp.peak.org. Since Lighthouse no loger supports these apps the a free two user license is also post up at peak. OpenWrite is the word processing application. Hope this helps. Ryan
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ld: table of contents for archive /usr/libXt.a out of date Date: 31 Aug 1997 19:01:53 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5ud7mh$16i@slip.net> Hi, Upon compiling gs5.03 I get the error messages below. Is there a command to update the table of contents for the *.a static libraries so that make might continue? Thanks, Emmett ld: table of contents for archive: /usr/lib/libXt.a is out of date; rerun ranlib(1) (can't load from it) ld: table of contents for archive: /usr/lib/libXext.a is out of date; rerun ranlib(1) (can't load from it) ld: table of contents for archive: /usr/lib/libX11.a is out of date; rerun ranlib(1) (can't load from it)
From: mtaub@worldnet.att.net (Miles Taub) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Prblms installing on Intel Platform Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 02:29:28 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <5ud9bu$brk@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> I'm trying to install NeXTStep 3.3 for Intel Processors on my Dell 166, 64megs RAM, 1 2gig drive, 1 4gig drive. The first drive has a 400meg partition ready for Next, the other partitions are FAT. I've downloaded the four floppies from Nextanswers (Boot, Drivers, Additional drivers, Core), booted up... during the install off of the bootable floppy, I am prompted to identify the SCSI driver for my cd-rom drive...per Nextanswers and since i have an IDE system (ATAPI CD-ROM compatible Teac drive), I choose the Adaptec 154x driver. Then I choose the EISA/ATAPI disk controller on the additional drivers diskette. But then a screen with lots of information appears and one of the lines reads that it can't find SCSI controller or CD-ROM drive. I've tried many different configurations of drivers, but no luck. I've tried making the cd-rom drive a "slave" and no luck. Next can't find the cd-rom drive where the install cd resides. Any thoughts? Thanks, Miles
From: Nick@tzcc.com (Nick Dinielli (The Fatman)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: For additional software support visit: http://www.tzcc.com Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 02:49:07 GMT Organization: NetTrip, Inc. Message-ID: <330f6e47.7019204@news.carroll.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain For additional software support visit: http://www.tzcc.com
From: Nick@tzcc.com (Nick Dinielli (The Fatman)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: For additional software support visit: http://www.tzcc.com Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 02:49:12 GMT Organization: NetTrip, Inc. Message-ID: <33116e4e.7025906@news.carroll.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain For additional software support visit: http://www.tzcc.com
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From: louis@orb.isdn.emory.edu (Louis Leon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail: Caught signal #11 Date: 1 Sep 1997 12:49:55 GMT Organization: Emory University Message-ID: <5uedlj$7ef@lendl.cc.emory.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The problem started occurring for me after a reboot. (Another reboot didn't clear the problem.) This is black hardware running 3.3. This is what I am seeing when opening a fresh copy of /usr/template/user/Mailboxes/Active.mbox: (gdb) run Starting program: /NEXTSTEP_3.3/NextApps/Mail.app/Mail Program generated(1): Memory access exception on address 0x2c (protection failure). 0x505de46 in strcasecmp () (gdb) where #0 0x505de46 in strcasecmp () #1 0x4537c in step () #2 0x5030b6c in qst () #3 0x5030a34 in qsort () #4 0x1f6b4 in convertToAscii () #5 0x16c9a in forgetImportantPid () #6 0x212d0 in initSendButtons () #7 0x33776 in makeMailbox () #8 0x6030458 in -[Application run] () #9 0x22dd6 in main () Out of 25 attempts to open, 2 failed because of a bus error (ie. signal 10) and one opened successfully. My other applications seem to opening ok, but then I haven't checked them all. Does this problem signature suggest a hardware/memory failing? Has anyone ever seen this before? Thanks -- Louis Leon
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From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processor for OpenStep? Date: 1 Sep 1997 17:58:16 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5uevno$4n0$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <1997Aug29.211114.1@spcvxb.spc.edu> <5uaitd$a86$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> <hhafhyp85i.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> <5ucp08$nh5$4@gaea.omnigroup.com> In-Reply-To: <5ucp08$nh5$4@gaea.omnigroup.com> On 08/31/97, ryan@omnigroup.com wrote: > You can find the old NEXTSTEP apps by Lighthouse at next-ftp.peak.org. > Since Lighthouse no loger supports these apps the a free two user license > is also post up at peak. OpenWrite is the word processing application. > The license numbers *were* at: http://www.lighthouse.com/CurrentProductVersionNumbers.html They seem to have gone now, though...? Even with the free licenses, though, I'd be more tempted by a current, supported product which is being ported to Rhapsody, e.g. WriteUp. Best wishes, mmalc. --
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HTML NeXT Mail Bundle! Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 17:46:32 -0600 Organization: Illinois State University Message-ID: <340B5317.1256@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since I'm sure that someone has not yet seen this, here goes...
From: louis@orb.isdn.emory.edu (Louis Leon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail: Caught signal #11 Date: 2 Sep 1997 00:46:35 GMT Organization: Emory University Message-ID: <5ufnlb$d13@lendl.cc.emory.edu> References: <5uedlj$7ef@lendl.cc.emory.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: louis@orb.isdn.emory.edu In <5uedlj$7ef@lendl.cc.emory.edu> I wrote: > The problem started occurring for me after a reboot. (Another reboot didn't > clear the problem.) This is black hardware running 3.3. > the rest skipped.. I am following up on my own posting to say that I have figured out the problem. It's funny. Whenever a user comes to me and says "it worked before", I asked them "what have you changed?" On top of that, I'm constantly after apprentice administrators to keep a change log. Either of these two would have lead me to my problem's solution. The change to my environment was linking ~/Library/Mail to /LocalLibrary. Previously, /LocalLibrary/Mail held the EnhancedMail bundle. After the change, both ~/Library/Mail and /LocalLibrary/Mail pointed to the same set of bundles (Colorizer, Urlifier, etc.). Why did I make that change? Actually, I had batch linked everything in ~/Libary to /LocalLibrary as part of trouble shooting an NFS responsiveness problem a couple of days earlier, but that is another story. (As you can probably guess and understand as well, I hardly ever reboot my machine, hence the usefulness of having a change management log on NeXT machines and IBM mainframes.) Thanks for solving the problem goes to the announcement in this list about the HTMLConverter bundle. Upon reading that, I realized that I had not tested the effect of bundles on reproducing my problem. Such is that apparent chaordic nature of life. -- Louis Leon
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processor for OpenStep? Date: 2 Sep 1997 06:34:14 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5ugc16$8j7$1@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <1997Aug29.211114.1@spcvxb.spc.edu> <5uaitd$a86$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> <hhafhyp85i.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> <5ucp08$nh5$4@gaea.omnigroup.com> <5uevno$4n0$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <5uevno$4n0$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> mmalcolm crawford wrote: > The license numbers *were* at: > > http://www.lighthouse.com/CurrentProductVersionNumbers.html > > They seem to have gone now, though...? Suspecting that they might, and also that the apps themselves might eventually vanish off their FTP site is why they are on PEAK: http://www.peak.org/next/apps/LighthouseDesign/ Thanks to Eric Tremblay for the web page design TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SB16 value PNP will work with Openstep 4.1 ? Date: 2 Sep 1997 06:42:35 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5ugcgr$8j7$2@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <01bcb5f5$d2378480$040e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> <5ubnju$6fh@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <5ubnju$6fh@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> Bastian Schlueter wrote: > Did you have the latest Soundblaster Driver?. I have a Soundblaster 16 Value PNP > and it works under NEXTSTEP 3.3. Since the card was a bulk version NEXTSTEP > didn't recognise it out of the box. I had to change the "Auto Detect IDs" line > in /private/Drivers/i386/SoundBlaster16.config/SB16PnP.table to recognize the > card. I'm not sure exactly what it was, but I had some problem with the PNP for my SoundBlaster 16 also.... I've got it set to SoundBlaster 16PnP (8bit DMA) (v4.01) Is this the newest driver? I checked NA but couldn't figure it out... > The value you have to add there can be found with the > /private/Drivers/i386/EISABus.config/PnPDump utility. Interesting utility.... but I have several (5 actually) things list as 'suboptimal configuration' .... hrm.... suggestions on how to improve things? Here's the full listing: ========================================================= csn 1: ===================== Resource Description: ===================== Vendor Id CTL002a (0xe8c002a) Serial Number 0x1d58f CheckSum 0xe Plug and Play Version 1.0 (Vendor 1.0) id string(17) 'Creative SB16 PnP' Logical Device 0: Id CTL0031 (0xe8c0031) id string(5) 'Audio' Start dependent function 0 [good configuration] irq: 5 [high, edge] dma channel: 1 [8 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat] dma channel: 5 [16 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat] i/o port: 0x220..0x220 align 0x1 length 0x10 [16 lines] i/o port: 0x330..0x330 align 0x1 length 0x2 [16 lines] i/o port: 0x388..0x388 align 0x1 length 0x4 [16 lines] Start dependent function 1 [acceptable configuration] irq: 5, 7, 10 [high, edge] dma channel: 0, 1, 3 [8 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat] dma channel: 5, 6, 7 [16 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat] i/o port: 0x220..0x280 align 0x20 length 0x10 [16 lines] i/o port: 0x300..0x330 align 0x30 length 0x2 [16 lines] i/o port: 0x388..0x388 align 0x1 length 0x4 [16 lines] Start dependent function 2 [acceptable configuration] irq: 5, 7, 10 [high, edge] dma channel: 0, 1, 3 [8 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat] dma channel: 5, 6, 7 [16 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat] i/o port: 0x220..0x280 align 0x20 length 0x10 [16 lines] i/o port: 0x300..0x330 align 0x30 length 0x2 [16 lines] Start dependent function 3 [suboptimal configuration] irq: 5, 7, 10 [high, edge] dma channel: 0, 1, 3 [8 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat] dma channel: 5, 6, 7 [16 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat] i/o port: 0x220..0x280 align 0x20 length 0x10 [16 lines] Start dependent function 4 [suboptimal configuration] irq: 5, 7, 10 [high, edge] dma channel: 0, 1, 3 [8 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat] i/o port: 0x220..0x280 align 0x20 length 0x10 [16 lines] i/o port: 0x300..0x330 align 0x30 length 0x2 [16 lines] i/o port: 0x388..0x388 align 0x1 length 0x4 [16 lines] Start dependent function 5 [suboptimal configuration] irq: 5, 7, 10 [high, edge] dma channel: 0, 1, 3 [8 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat] i/o port: 0x220..0x280 align 0x20 length 0x10 [16 lines] i/o port: 0x300..0x330 align 0x30 length 0x2 [16 lines] Start dependent function 6 [suboptimal configuration] irq: 5, 7, 10, 11 [high, edge] dma channel: 0, 1, 3 [8 bit][bus master][byte][word][compat] i/o port: 0x220..0x280 align 0x20 length 0x10 [16 lines] End of dependent functions Logical Device 1: Id CTL2011 (0xe8c2011) Compatible Device Id: PNP0600 (0x41d00600) id string(3) 'IDE' Start dependent function 0 [good configuration] irq: 10 [high, edge] i/o port: 0x168..0x168 align 0x1 length 0x8 [16 lines] i/o port: 0x36e..0x36e align 0x1 length 0x2 [16 lines] Start dependent function 1 [acceptable configuration] irq: 11 [high, edge] i/o port: 0x1e8..0x1e8 align 0x1 length 0x8 [16 lines] i/o port: 0x3ee..0x3ee align 0x1 length 0x2 [16 lines] Start dependent function 2 [acceptable configuration] irq: 10, 11, 15 [high, edge] i/o port: 0x100..0x1f8 align 0x8 length 0x8 [16 lines] i/o port: 0x300..0x3fe align 0x2 length 0x2 [16 lines] Start dependent function 3 [suboptimal configuration] irq: 15 [high, edge] i/o port: 0x170..0x170 align 0x1 length 0x8 [16 lines] i/o port: 0x376..0x376 align 0x1 length 0x1 [16 lines] End of dependent functions Logical Device 2: Id PNPffff (0x41d0ffff) id string(8) 'Reserved' i/o port: 0x100..0x3f8 align 0x8 length 0x1 [16 lines] Logical Device 3: Id CTL7001 (0xe8c7001) Compatible Device Id: PNPb02f (0x41d0b02f) id string(4) 'Game' i/o port: 0x200..0x200 align 0x1 length 0x8 [16 lines] ============================================ Current configuration for Logical Device 0: ============================================ i/o port: 0x220..0x220 align 0x0 length 0x0 [0 lines] i/o port: 0x330..0x330 align 0x0 length 0x0 [0 lines] i/o port: 0x388..0x388 align 0x0 length 0x0 [0 lines] irq: 5 [high, edge] dma channel: 1 [bus master][byte][word][compat] ============================================ Current configuration for Logical Device 1: ============================================ ============================================ Current configuration for Logical Device 2: ============================================ ============================================ Current configuration for Logical Device 3: ============================================ -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ssh for NEXTSTEP3.2 Date: 2 Sep 1997 06:49:01 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ugcst$8j7$3@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5u7bdr$io4$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU You might find what you want here: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ssh/ TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.eunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tip: compiling squid-1.1.16 on 4.2 Date: 2 Sep 1997 19:40:17 GMT Organization: N.eXTers W.ith A.ttidude Message-ID: <5uhq31$g2@ragnarok.en.eunet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Many people use their NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP boxes for mail, web and other Internet-related services. Compiling squid, the web cache and proxy, has always been a great way to waste time and hair. The latest version has a couple of gotcha's, too - here's how to resolve them. Get the squid 1.1.16 base distribution from either the main site (http://squid.nlanr.net/Squid/) or one of its mirrors. Unpack and /configure. Then: - uncomment HOST_OPT in src/Makefile (I always forget this) - in src/store.h, make the first couple of lines read this: --snip-- . #ifndef _STORE_H_ #define _STORE_H_ /* insert this */ #ifndef S_ISDIR #define S_ISDIR(mode) (((mode) & (_S_IFMT)) == (_S_IFDIR)) #endif /* original file follows */ . --snip-- - in src/dnsserver.c, look for #ifdef _SQUID_NEXT_ right after the includes. If you are on 4.2, you MUST disable this by commenting or renaming the conditional define (e.g. _SQUID_NEXT_DNSHACK_), otherwise squid will connect fine to any dnsserver processes, but these will not be able to properly resolve hostnames. Now make & make install - everything should build & work without POSIX related problems now. Enjoy! Holger -- holger"at"ragnarok.en.eunet.de (NeXTMail, MIME) 'Where I come from it's important to develop stuff that doesn't suck.' -- David Young <dwy"at"ace.net>
From: max.barel@wanadoo.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for Draw3D author. Date: 2 Sep 1997 19:40:43 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Message-ID: <5uhq3r$qub$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> I dowloaded from peak a demo version of Draw3D which is outdated, as mentioned in the README. I'm triying to contact the author to get an runable demo and eventualy a license. After some browsing into the NIB file of the app i find an email adress (jmartin@bozell.com) which is now also outdated. any pointer someone ? -- mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr
From: robert@next.amistep.osn.de (Robert Hofmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next Subject: S: PGP for NS 3.3 Intel Date: 1 Sep 1997 19:26:41 GMT Organization: OSN, Onlineservice Nuernberg, Germany Message-ID: <5uf4th$ijo$1@news.osn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I've just tried to compile pgp 2.6.3, but it seems that an include for strdup() is missing on my system. Well, I am not a very good c-coder, so maybe someone can send me a full-working (compiled) version of pgp for NeXTSTEP-Intel? Please reply via email only! Tnx! -- _ o Robert Hofmann | robert@next.amistep.osn.de, rhofmann@lucent.com |<)_/# | http://www.osn.de/user/amistep TT <T Amiga & NeXTSTEP | 2:2490/1015@fidonet, 39:171/101@amiganet
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5uib9m$3s7@examiner.concentric.net> Control: cancel <5uib9m$3s7@examiner.concentric.net> Date: 03 Sep 1997 01:11:38 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5uib9m$3s7@examiner.concentric.net> Sender: FREE CABLE<pifer@laugh.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "Richard Miller" <rnm01@gnofn.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: sendmail on NS3.2 Date: 3 Sep 1997 05:40:49 GMT Organization: AccessCom, THE New Orleans Internet Provider Message-ID: <01bcb82b$fa0705c0$0401a0ce@default> Does anyone have a clue how to setup sendmail on 3.2 clients in a heterogeneous environment? If you know where to find the info let me know.
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From: rgr@freedomnet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is this you? Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:18:45 Organization: FreedomNet Message-ID: <5ujkl7$jc9$2098@news.freedomnet.com> Are you sick of all the Home Business hype? Most of them are either too expensive or so complicated that you can't explain them to other people. Are you ready for a simple Home Business that makes sense? A business that doesn't monopolize all of your time. That requires No: Stocking, Selling or Delivery. No: billing or collections. No: complicated paperwork. No: employees to pay. No: contracts to sign, you can quit any time. There is a one time $29 enrollment. There is never any new money spent after that. If you decide that this business is not for you simply return the business kit within 60 days for a full refund. Tens of thousands of people have been able to make this their full time business in a reasonably short amount of time. This is not "get rich quick." This is a highly reputable company that opened in 1985. I will send you details on this company when you e-mail me for information. God forbid, but if something should happen where you couldn't work or a loved one became ill and you had to stay home to care for them, would you be able to? Would your company keep paying you? Nobody likes to think about these things, but they do happen. And unless you have great insurance you may want to consider this business. You've nothing to lose by asking for information. I'll be happy to send it to you. The fact is, if you are trading time for money your income is temporary, ( even if you own the company.) The average person works from paycheck to paycheck with little or nothing left over to save or invest. This business can help you break the paycheck to paycheck cycle. For information email me at rramsey36@aol.com or rgr@freedomnet.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: S: PGP for NS 3.3 Intel Message-ID: <EFxp0o.2FG@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid References: <5uf4th$ijo$1@news.osn.de> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 13:19:36 GMT robert@next.amistep.osn.de (Robert Hofmann) wrote: > >Hi, > >I've just tried to compile pgp 2.6.3, but it seems that an include for >strdup() is missing on my system. > >Well, I am not a very good c-coder, so maybe someone can send me a >full-working (compiled) version of pgp for NeXTSTEP-Intel? Why not just download it from: ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next/PGP/ Yours, -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, Den Haag/The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/prive/wierda/ The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.
From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: S: PGP for NS 3.3 Intel Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 16:18:13 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970903161349.4695D-100000@ikarus.jura.uni-bonn.de> References: <5uf4th$ijo$1@news.osn.de> <EFxp0o.2FG@AWT.NL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <EFxp0o.2FG@AWT.NL> On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Gerben Wierda wrote: > robert@next.amistep.osn.de (Robert Hofmann) wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > >I've just tried to compile pgp 2.6.3, but it seems that an include for > >strdup() is missing on my system. > > > >Well, I am not a very good c-coder, so maybe someone can send me a > >full-working (compiled) version of pgp for NeXTSTEP-Intel? > Das Thema gab es schon einmal hier, damals loeste jemand das Problem indem er "-d strdup=NXCopyBuffer" als zusaetzlichen compile Parameter angab. ueber Die Definition habe ich jetzt aus dem Gedaechtnis, das sollte man also in der Developer Doku nochmal nachschauen, jedenfalls hat das bei mir ebenfalls geklappt. Regards Konstantin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de
From: espy@beale.com (Stephen Espy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenSTEP on VirtualPC/Mac Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 10:47:49 -0500 Organization: BSGi Message-ID: <espy-ya023680000309971047490001@client1.news.psi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anyone have the driver selections to make to begin the setup of OpenSTEP on a PowerComputing clone running VirtualPC? Any help would be appreciated.
From: jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processor for OpenStep? Date: 2 Sep 97 12:48:33 Organization: C.R.A.S.H. The Computers, Robotics, and Artists Society of Houston Message-ID: <JASON.97Sep2124833@fisher.psych.uh.edu> References: <1997Aug29.211114.1@spcvxb.spc.edu> <5uaitd$a86$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> <hhafhyp85i.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> <5ucp08$nh5$4@gaea.omnigroup.com> <5uevno$4n0$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> In-reply-to: mmalcolm crawford's message of 1 Sep 1997 17:58:16 GMT mmalc writes: Even with the free licenses, though, I'd be more tempted by a current, supported product which is being ported to Rhapsody, e.g. WriteUp. Depending on what you wanted to do, Create from Stone Design sure is a beautiful program to work with. It runs on OPENSTEP/NT and will also be available on Rhapsody. http://www.stone.com My $0.02 :-) Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7 C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006 jason@crash.org (713) 942-7937 voice
From: jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Favorite Unix utils under OPENSTEP/NT Date: 2 Sep 97 12:54:34 Organization: C.R.A.S.H. The Computers, Robotics, and Artists Society of Houston Message-ID: <JASON.97Sep2125434@fisher.psych.uh.edu> Greets, I'm looking for clues on compiling unixy utilities under OPENSTEP/NT. Has anyone tried this, perhaps in conjunction with the GNU NT/Unix porting DLLs from Cygnus? Any and all info appreciated! Thanks, Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7 C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006 jason@crash.org (713) 942-7937 voice
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From: jay@apex.net (Jay Campbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processor for OpenStep? References: <1997Aug29.211114.1@spcvxb.spc.edu> <5uaitd$a86$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: <340dd6d9.0@news.inil.com> Date: 3 Sep 97 21:30:01 GMT try CedarWord from Cedar systems. http://www.cedar.co.uk
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ParaSheet/Range Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 07:44:03 +0200 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <340E4AA3.ABD@de.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anybody tried to create a data dependend Chart with WILMA? For instance: ChartNew("...", a5:a100); behaves very well, but ChartNew("...", Cell(1, 5):Cell(1, 100)); is a syntax error. Any solutions? Henry -- ----------- http://www.ti6.tu-harburg.de/~ti6hk/index.html ------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany voice : +49-7031-16-3516 \|/ fax : +49-7031-16-3328 o(O O)o voice,BBS & fax : +49-7031-276113 (private) \ / --------------- Ihh-Mail: Koplien@de.IBM.com ------ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
From: ftouhi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Majid Ftouhi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PopOver Problem, HELP. Date: 4 Sep 1997 13:18:35 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <5umcfb$gbv@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, PopoOver works fine for me before, and now i get the message: ERROR: tremblant.iro.umontreal.ca: Unable to copy mail spool file to temp pop dropbox /usr/mail/.ftouhi.pop HELP!!! Thanks in advance ---majid
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FAQ - was there ever one? Date: 4 Sep 1997 16:13:51 GMT Message-ID: <19970904161301.MAA29009@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com SnewsLanguage: English Was there ever an FAQ for this group? Anyone have a copy? I'm interested in writing/maintaining one--how do I go about taking this on formally? I figure it'll keep me out of trouble--elsewise I'm too likely to spend too much time fuming about Apple's inability to get OPENSTEP 4.2 running on my ThinkPad. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: glipof@pervasive-sw.com (guy lipof) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sun Openstep missing/gone? Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 12:43:48 -0500 Organization: pervasive software Message-ID: <glipof-0409971243480001@192.168.1.80> References: <5sq57d$rbu@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article <5sq57d$rbu@news.doit.wisc.edu>, bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu wrote: > I notice that Sun's web site no longer has any links for Openstep or its > installation instructions. For example, these URLs are no longer valid: > > http://www.sun.com/solaris/products/openstep/sol-openstep-install > http://www.sun.com/solaris/products/openstep/sol-openstep-rn.html > http://www.sun.com/solaris/products/openstep/download/mailer.cgi > > Openstep also does not appear in Sun's Solaris Products anywhere, though > their search engine will pull up a few old white papers/announcements. > > Has Sun really pulled the plug on it? If not where can I find it? > > - Gareth i think that both apple and sun jointly pulled the plug... you can also notice that on the rhapsody site they are only developing it for intel and powerpc. this means that they are dropping support for sparc and the promised development for ultrasparc. this is too bad because i believe that enterprise businesses use unix over nt for mission critical servers. sun has developed such a huge momentum in the unix community with its java development and have been pushed to the forefront of the internet. understanding the above it would be really nice to program to the openstep api and have your application be able to run on intel, powerpc, sparc and ultrasparc. this would be extremely handy for firewall, database, and application servers. why it was stopped may be both a political as well as a technical aspect... for one the openstep api seems to be in direct conflict with sun's java model(i.e. why would i want to program in java and have my application run dogged slow through a vm, when i can program to an easy api structure that will do os native calls and be but loads faster?) on the technical aspect how truely portable is the openstep api(i.e. if i wrote a firewall application would i have to modify the application for the specific oses - solaris uses mentat sockets, while nt uses bsd sockets). i can see what the questions as to why it would be dropped, but i believe the success of the openstep api, should not be based solely on nt and mach(especially if mach is only available for intel and powerpc). the api structure should be an open api that can work on most oses or have mach at least work on intel, powerpc, sparc, ultrasparc, and alpha(i added alpha in because dec-unix uses a modified version of the mach kernel and porting openstep to it should not be as much of a stretch as porting it to ultrasparc). guy r. lipof
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FAQ - was there ever one? Date: 4 Sep 1997 20:28:17 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5un5l1$o6l$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <19970904161301.MAA29009@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19970904161301.MAA29009@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > Was there ever an FAQ for this group? Anyone have a copy? For the software group specifically? No... for NeXT in general, yes http://peanuts.leo.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.toc.html > I'm interested in writing/maintaining one--how do I go about taking this > on formally? If you want to make a specialized one, you write it and put out an announcement in csn.announce, and perhaps put the URL in your 4 line .sig (which comes after a '-- ') TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: Rhapsody on Apple PC Card? Date: 5 Sep 1997 03:30:16 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5unuc8$dgo@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <iwkoh6um94f.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> <34010246.32B@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In <34010246.32B@earthlink.net> Steve Kellener wrote: > I'm not sure this is possible. As far as I know the only way to get it > to run on a Mac right now is with Virtual PC. Let me tell you....It's > slooooooow!!! > > If there is a way to get Openstep running on a Mac with decent > performance I would greatly appreciate the info as well! > > > STEVE K. oddly enough, the ads for Orange PC cards now claim to be able to run "NeXT OPENSTEP". I understand how/why Apples weren't supposed to, wonder how Orange's can? of course they want $3500 for a 233mHz Pentium card... (p. 55 current MacConnection catalog) -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Installing NS3.3 to a partitioned disk Distribution: world Organization: OpenBSD Hackers Association From: downsj@threadway.downsj.com (Jason Downs) Message-ID: <340f7e64.0@news.pacifier.com> Date: 5 Sep 97 03:37:08 GMT I've got a 3GB disk in my black slab, and NS3.3 media (but no manuals). I can partition the disk from the CD-ROMs single user shell with disk(8) just fine-- but then the installer goes and overwrites it with it's stupid "use the entire the entire disk" default! Is there not any way to keep it from doing so? I don't want a single 3GB NeXTStep filesystem on the disk, and I don't want to use multiple disks on the box. -- Jason Downs downsj@downsj.com Little. Yellow. Secure. http://www.openbsd.org/
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Quantrix help -- resize the whole shebang and importing Improv Date: 5 Sep 1997 03:21:14 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5untra$o6l$10@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1) How do I import Improv files into Quantrix? 2) I have an 8 cell by 5 cell spreadsheet.... I want to make all the cells wider and longer.... but I can't seem to resize *all* the rows and columns. With Improv I could do this.... The online help stinks.... TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: tom@sumoweb.com (Thomas McCarthy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can't send mail to AOL Date: 5 Sep 1997 04:05:37 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Message-ID: <5uo0eh$7rl$1@nnrp1.snfc21.pbi.net> Hi, I asked a variation on this question once before, and while I got several answers, I guess I am just plain dumb when it comes to sendmail, because I still haven't fixed it. Assume that I have drool running down my chin if you attempt to answer this for me! There are many domains I cannot send mail into. Usually my mail works without a hitch, but I sometimes get messages bounced back from, for example, AOL. They come back with something like this in the header: While connected to e.mx.aol.com: >>> MAIL From:<tom@sumo.pacbell.net> <<< 550 <tom@sumo.pacbell.net>... Sender domain not found in DNS (see RFC 1123, sections 5.2.2 and 5.2.18). 554 TSHSIA@aol.com... 554 Remote protocol error My ISP is pacbell.net, and my machine name is sumo. Anyone know how to fix this? Without installing a new version of sendmail, perhaps? Any help is, as always, greatly appreciated. (drool, drool) -- Tom ---------- Thomas McCarthy tom@sumoweb.com
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: Rhapsody on Apple PC Card? Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 20:50:05 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <340F816B.2A47@earthlink.net> References: <iwkoh6um94f.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> <34010246.32B@earthlink.net> <5unuc8$dgo@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Rick Sanford <dental@precipice.com> Rick Sanford wrote: > oddly enough, the ads for Orange PC cards now claim to be able to run "NeXT > OPENSTEP". I understand how/why Apples weren't supposed to, wonder how > Orange's can? They absolutely can't. The ad is misleading. They can only run Openstep NT. Not NeXT or Openstep for Mach. A friend and I have repeatedly asked them about this and the reply is always to buy NT. STEVE K.
From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Prblms installing on Intel Platform Date: 5 Sep 1997 08:50:29 GMT Organization: Delft University of Technology Message-ID: <5uoh4l$6fb$1@news.tudelft.nl> References: <5ud9bu$brk@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Miles Taub writes > I'm trying to install NeXTStep 3.3 for Intel Processors on my Dell > 166, 64megs RAM, 1 2gig drive, 1 4gig drive. The first drive has a > 400meg partition ready for Next, the other partitions are FAT. > > I've downloaded the four floppies from Nextanswers (Boot, Drivers, > Additional drivers, Core), booted up... > > during the install off of the bootable floppy, I am prompted to > identify the SCSI driver for my cd-rom drive...per Nextanswers and > since i have an IDE system (ATAPI CD-ROM compatible Teac drive), I > choose the Adaptec 154x driver. Then I choose the EISA/ATAPI disk > controller on the additional drivers diskette. But then a screen with > lots of information appears and one of the lines reads that it can't > find SCSI controller or CD-ROM drive. > > I've tried many different configurations of drivers, but no luck. > I've tried making the cd-rom drive a "slave" and no luck. Next can't > find the cd-rom drive where the install cd resides. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > > Miles Two thoughts: - the cdrom has to be connected during install to the SECOND IDE controller - is our teac cdrom on the cdrom compatibility list in the nextanswer file ? (not all cdroms work with 3.3) Abraham Guyt. _____________________________________________________________________ Abraham Guyt P.O.Box 356 Department of Information Systems 2600 AJ Delft Faculty Technical Mathematics & Informatics The Netherlands Delft University of Technology tel: +31 15 278 5969 E-mail: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl NeXT-mail welcome
From: Valentino_Kyriakides@public.uni-hamburg.de (Valentino Kyriakides) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: S: Allegro Common Lisp v.4.2 for NeXTstep Date: 5 Sep 1997 12:16:52 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Message-ID: <5uot7k$bge$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> I'am searching an Allegro Common Lisp v.4.2 for NeXTstep 3.x. Does anyone own/work with this ACL version and can tell me his experiences (usability, performance, ANSI CL + CLOS implementation etc.) with it? Also if someone wants to sell/share his NS ACL 4.2 version please contact me (Franz Inc. doesn't sell/support it anymore), I urgently need such a version for private academical research and don't know where to get it from!!! Thanks in advance for any help or hints Valentino ________________________________________________________________ Valentino Kyriakides Universitaet Hamburg, FB. Informatik Arbeitsbereich Softwaretechnik ________________________________________________________________ E-Mail: 1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (ASCII, MIME) NeXTmail: Valentino_Kyriakides@public.uni-hamburg.de ________________________________________________________________
From: katz@cs.millersv.edu (Beth Katz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: OS4.2+Black Hardware Date: 5 Sep 1997 13:21:50 GMT Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania Message-ID: <5up11e$ohu$1@jake.esu.edu> References: <3403FE19.BF89E777@sakurakai.com> <5u0jaj$hve$1@xmission.xmission.com> <340B295E.91E5F9D7@no-spam.slb.com> Gary E. Bickford (garyb@no-spam.slb.com) wrote: > planetary wrote: > > Kai Cherry <mrkai@sakurakai.com> wrote: > > > Why isn't Apple telling folks that this runs on NeXT hardware? Every > > > piece of documentation that I've seen talks about hair-pulling Intel > > > hardware installation woes, instead of telling folks to go get a NeXT > > > and save some trouble. > > > > Why should Apple tell you to go out and purchase hardware that has > > been obsolete for years? > Having just bought a NeXTStation running 2.1 after being away for some > years, I am newly impressed by how up-to-date, clean and fast the > hardware is, and how easy to use NS still is to use. > The 25MHz NS boots faster and runs faster doing almost everything than > this P.O.S. Mac 5300 I'm typing this on. The NS hardware is by far the > cleanest computer hardware design I've ever seen. It's a graduate > course in industrial design, all by itself. It's old, but so's a > Pantera :) I did a demo of OpenStep 4.2 at the local Apple Corps group meeting. We had OpenStep running on both Intel and my 25MHz 2-bit grey NeXTstation. The overhead display wasn't working well, so I just moved to showing things on my NeXTstation. It still impresses. That is a mighty nice monitor. People were impressed with how quickly things happened (had chess playing in the background, ran the finder, PasteUp, Websters, OmniImage) and that I didn't need to do anything with the shell. Easy enlargement of everything was also good. One person in particular was wowed by the prospect of Display PostScript. Everyone liked the crisp monitor and reasonable speed for a six year old machine. Nevertheless, I have been strongly recommending against getting an old used NeXTstation if you can afford a Pentium Pro. I love my machine, but it *is* slow. But if you could put one together with 32 MB RAM and a fast external disk (I have a 2GB Barracuda) and are a student (getting OPenStep at $300), you could have a nice system for a good price. But don't kid yourself into believing it's state-of-the-art hardware. And OpenStep apps (rather than old NEXTSTEP apps) are slow. Beth Katz katz@cs.millersv.edu http://cs.millersv.edu/~katz
From: fkass@mtholyoke.edu (Frederick D. Kass) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT OS Media Wanted! Date: 5 Sep 97 12:57:19 GMT Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Message-ID: <341001af.0@nap.mtholyoke.edu> I have just taken in 3 orphaned NeXT machines... I have always loved the OS and am having fun playing with them. However, they are all running NeXT OS 2.X... DO you know where I might find a later version of the NeXT OS for my 1 030 Cube and 2 040 slabs? -Fred P.S. I have the floptical drive in the cube, but I could also hookup my CD-ROM if thats what the media comes on... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Frederick D. Kass E-Mail: fkass@mtholyoke.edu Network And Systems Manager Phone: 413.538.2375 Mount Holyoke College http://www.mtholyoke.edu/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Have some CPU cycles to spare? Visit http://rc5.distributed.net and join the effort to prove the necessity of strong encryption! ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (younghoon KIL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenSTEP on VirtualPC/Mac Date: 5 Sep 1997 14:31:08 GMT Organization: ppai News Message-ID: <5up53c$oss$2@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> References: <espy-ya023680000309971047490001@client1.news.psi.net> You (Stephen Espy <espy@beale.com>) wrote > Anyone have the driver selections to make to begin the setup of OpenSTEP > on a PowerComputing clone running VirtualPC? Any help would be > appreciated. Please visit following web site: http://www.emulation.net/windoze/vpc/index.html younghoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) ppai@bbs.para.co.kr (Large size NeXTMail OK) Fax: +82-(32)-817-8965 VOICE:+82-(32)-889-0151, +82-(11)-275-0177
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: can't COMPILE DYNAMIC LIBRARIES Date: 5 Sep 1997 15:24:02 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <5up86i$pob$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Maybe I am going about building shared libraries the wrong way? Feel free to put me right! I'm having difficulty compiling a dynamic library. My version of gcc does not support the -shared option so I am using ld. I get the following errors: bash-2.00$ gnumake -f makefile-shared.gnu cc++ -g -DINTEL -I/Users/tph1001/Code/include/C++libs/ezee -I/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/sys -c ezeeio.cc -o /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeio.o cc++ -g -DINTEL -I/Users/tph1001/Code/include/C++libs/ezee -I/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/sys -c ezeeconvert.cc -o /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeconvert.o ld -dynamic -dylib /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeio.o /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeconvert.o -o /Users/tph1001/Code/lib/C++libs/ezee/libezee.A.dylib.1 ld: common symbols not allowed with MH_DYLIB output format /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeio.o definition of common _RepnInfo (size 4) /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeio.o definition of common _data_sizefield (size 4) /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeio.o definition of common _dcomplexfield (size 4) /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeio.o definition of common _dsexfield (size 4) /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeio.o definition of common _dtypefield (size 4) /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeio.o definition of common _idcodefield (size 4) /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeio.o definition of common _nbandsfield (size 4) /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeio.o definition of common _ncolsfield (size 4) /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeio.o definition of common _nrowsfield (size 4) /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee/ezeeio.o definition of common _nsetsfield (size 4) gnumake: *** [/Users/tph1001/Code/lib/C++libs/ezee/libezee.A.dylib.1] Error 1 Anyone have any idea what the "ld: common symbols not allowed with MH_DYLIB output format" error message means? I have included my makefile and the area in the source where the problem lines are as indicatedd by the error message. -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 MIME & NeXT Mail OK. HERE's THE MAKEFILE: ==================== # ========== libraries and headers ========== MACHINE = INTEL LIB_DIR = /Users/tph1001/Code/lib/C++libs/ezee OBJ_DIR = /Users/tph1001/Code/obj/C++libs/ezee INCLUDE_DIR = /Users/tph1001/Code/include/C++libs/ezee INCLUDE = -I$(INCLUDE_DIR) -I/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/sys LIBS = -liostream -lm EZEELIB = $(LIB_DIR)/libezee.A.dylib CC = cc++ #.cc.o: # $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c $< $(LIBS) CFLAGS = CFLAGS += -g -D$(MACHINE) $(INCLUDE) LD = ld LFLAGS = LFLAGS += -dynamic -dylib OBJECTS = \ ezeeio.o \ ezeeconvert.o # ========== Building rules for Makefile ========== # # ========== .so: shared object library========== $(EZEELIB): $(EZEELIB).1 rm -f $(EZEELIB); ln -s $(EZEELIB).1 $(EZEELIB) $(EZEELIB).1: $(OBJECTS:%=$(OBJ_DIR)/%) $(LD) $(LFLAGS) $(OBJECTS:%=$(OBJ_DIR)/%) -o $(EZEELIB).1 $(OBJ_DIR)/%.o: %.cc $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c $< -o $@ clean: rm -f $(OBJECTS:%=$(OBJ_DIR)/%) $(EZEELIB) $(EZEELIB).1 HERE ARE THE PROBLEM LINES: ============================ ezee.h: /* sizeof the image data header's records important for byte reversal */ size_t idcodefield = sizeof(int32); size_t dsexfield = sizeof(int16); size_t dtypefield = sizeof(EzeeType); size_t dcomplexfield = sizeof(int16); size_t nrowsfield = sizeof(int16); size_t ncolsfield = sizeof(int16); size_t nbandsfield = sizeof(int16); size_t nsetsfield = sizeof(int16); size_t data_sizefield = sizeof(ulong);
From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quantrix help -- resize the whole shebang and importing Improv Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:15:06 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970905121004.21281A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <5untra$o6l$10@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Timothy J. Luoma" <nospam+next@luomat.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <5untra$o6l$10@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> On 5 Sep 1997, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > 1) How do I import Improv files into Quantrix? > I have tried it long time ago, but I think it worked. From Quantrix Help: Improv for NeXT offers an exchange file format, known as ".imx," that Quantrix can read. Such files can be directly imported into Quantrix through Quantrix's Open panel. Improv for NeXT provides an export panel through the Save As command. To export an Improv model as .imx > 2) I have an 8 cell by 5 cell spreadsheet.... I want to make all the cells > wider and longer.... but I can't seem to resize *all* the rows and columns. > With Improv I could do this.... > a) Select all the columns or rows that you want to make longer, wider etc. b) Resize one of them. c) The others will assume the same dimension. > The online help stinks.... > I find useful using Improv.app help to learn about Quantrix.app. Not for simple tasks, but for programming fancy formulas etc. Sad, I know ... Good luck. Rudy.
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can't send mail to AOL Date: 5 Sep 1997 16:18:26 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5upbci$23s$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5uo0eh$7rl$1@nnrp1.snfc21.pbi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tom@sumoweb.com In <5uo0eh$7rl$1@nnrp1.snfc21.pbi.net> Thomas McCarthy wrote: > There are many domains I cannot send mail into. Usually my mail works > without a hitch, but I sometimes get messages bounced back from, for > example, AOL. They come back with something like this in the header: > > While connected to e.mx.aol.com: > >>> MAIL From:<tom@sumo.pacbell.net> > <<< 550 <tom@sumo.pacbell.net>... Sender domain not found in DNS (see > RFC 1123, sections 5.2.2 and 5.2.18). > 554 TSHSIA@aol.com... 554 Remote protocol error > > > My ISP is pacbell.net, and my machine name is sumo. Anyone know how to > fix this? Without installing a new version of sendmail, perhaps? This is a host which requires a valid domain name to accept incoming mail. `sumo.pacbell.net' is domain name because there is no DNS entry for `sumo.pacbell.net'... there is an entry for ``pacbell.net''. So, what I would do: 1) install newer sendmail and ``masquerade_as pacbell.net'' (there are instructions on how to do this at PEAK and it is quite simple. OR 2) If you are using NS 3.3 or later, use one of your 'Expert Headers' in Mail.app to set up From Thomas McCarthy <tom@sumoweb.com> and any email you send from Mail.app will be accepted because the From: line will have a valid domain.... TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
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From: tfu@bigfoot.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: S: Allegro Common Lisp v.4.2 for NeXTstep Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 16:51:35 GMT Organization: Smoke'n Joy - The first virtual crematory Message-ID: <1997Sep5.165135.405@online.de> References: <5uot7k$bge$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Valentino_Kyriakides@public.uni-hamburg.de In <5uot7k$bge$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Valentino Kyriakides wrote: > I'am searching an Allegro Common Lisp v.4.2 for NeXTstep 3.x. > > Does anyone own/work with this ACL version and can tell me his experiences > (usability, performance, ANSI CL + CLOS implementation etc.) with it? > > Also if someone wants to sell/share his NS ACL 4.2 version please contact me > (Franz Inc. doesn't sell/support it anymore), I urgently need such a version > for private academical research and don't know where to get it from!!! > You can get the Linux-Version of ACL 4.3 *free* from Franz Inc. Just see their web-page. (www.franz.com)
From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Prblms installing on Intel Platform Date: 5 Sep 1997 22:57:34 GMT Organization: CSUnet Message-ID: <5uq2ou$e79$1@nuke.csu.net> References: <5ud9bu$brk@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Hi. As I remember Installing NS 3.3 for Intel on a IDE based system was a pain in the butt. Come to think of it installing it with SCSI was almost as bad. NS3.x for Intel was a kind of nasty deal all around. It was a lot easier to get it going on Sparc, NeXT hardware. Unless you run into someone who's done it successfully you'll probably have to find an appropriate SCSI device to get started. Once you have SCSI and IDE in one machine you can build the IDE drive easily and you're home free. In Openstep 4.2 I had no trouble installing it on my vanilla 486 clone with IDE HD and ATAPI/IDE CD-ROM. It was a trivial installation much to my surprise... lots more trivial than Windoze '95 was previously on the same machine! Good Luck! Thomas Miles Taub (mtaub@worldnet.att.net) wrote: : I'm trying to install NeXTStep 3.3 for Intel Processors on my Dell : 166, 64megs RAM, 1 2gig drive, 1 4gig drive. The first drive has a : 400meg partition ready for Next, the other partitions are FAT. : I've downloaded the four floppies from Nextanswers (Boot, Drivers, : Additional drivers, Core), booted up... : during the install off of the bootable floppy, I am prompted to : identify the SCSI driver for my cd-rom drive...per Nextanswers and : since i have an IDE system (ATAPI CD-ROM compatible Teac drive), I : choose the Adaptec 154x driver. Then I choose the EISA/ATAPI disk : controller on the additional drivers diskette. But then a screen with : lots of information appears and one of the lines reads that it can't : find SCSI controller or CD-ROM drive. : I've tried many different configurations of drivers, but no luck. : I've tried making the cd-rom drive a "slave" and no luck. Next can't : find the cd-rom drive where the install cd resides. : Any thoughts? : Thanks, : Miles -- <>+<> ////// __v__ __\/__ `\|||/ /---\ """"""" | _ - | (_____) . / ^ _ \ . (q p) | o o | <^-@-@-^> (| o O |) .( O O ), |\| (o)(o) |/| _ooO_<_>_Ooo_ooO_U_Ooo_ooO__v__Ooo_ooO_u_Ooo_ooO__(_)__Ooa__oOO_()_OOo___ [_____}_____!____.}_____{_____|_____}_____i____.}_____!_____{_____}_____] __.}____.|_____{_____!____.}_____|_____{.____}_____|_____}_____|_____!___ [_____{_____}_____|_____}_____i_____}_____|_____}_____i_____{_____}_____] Thomas Poff 1308 Michele Ct. Rohnert Park, CA 94928 (707)664-1867 To see some interesting software for the Newton, please try: http://www.cs.sonoma.edu/Newton ftp://ftp.cs.sonoma.edu/pub/Newton
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 19:22:12 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: Q: Rhapsody on Apple PC Card? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <873502848.19884@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service I think Orange's PC card will only run Openstep/NT which is not really what we want since it just provides the yellow box and not all the cool stuff. Plus there are some NeXTSTEP apps that no longer will be made that I would like to run and this would be the only way on a Mac.Orange Micro's ads are slightly misleading. I think the problem of running the OS is mainly a driver issue.The window of opportunity for this has probably passed since DR1 is almost on us. Orange probably could have made some money selling to early adopting developers but that window has passed. hoops -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: jmeacham@meacham.charm.net (The Rev. James D. Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Free WebObjects Beta? Date: 5 Sep 1997 15:49:12 GMT Organization: Charm.Net Baltimore Internet Access, Hon (410) 558-3900 Message-ID: <5up9lo$fnm$1@news2.charm.net> Hi all, I at one time had a free WebObjects beta, but after I lost the contents of my HD, I naturally lost the program. Question is, is that still available? If not, is someone willing to NeXTmail it to me? I'd be much obliged for any info. Peace, James -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- The Rev. James David Meacham Minister, Webmaster, Philosopher "If people did not sometimes do silly things, nothing intelligent would ever get done." -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
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From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can't send mail to AOL Date: 6 Sep 1997 16:03:11 GMT Organization: Bitstream Underground Message-ID: <5ururv$837$1@maryj.bitstream.net> References: <5uo0eh$7rl$1@nnrp1.snfc21.pbi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tom@sumoweb.com In <5uo0eh$7rl$1@nnrp1.snfc21.pbi.net> Thomas McCarthy wrote: > I asked a variation on this question once before, and while I got > several answers, I guess I am just plain dumb when it comes to > sendmail, because I still haven't fixed it. Assume that I have drool > running down my chin if you attempt to answer this for me! > > There are many domains I cannot send mail into. Usually my mail works > without a hitch, but I sometimes get messages bounced back from, for > example, AOL. They come back with something like this in the header: > > > While connected to e.mx.aol.com: > >>> MAIL From:<tom@sumo.pacbell.net> > <<< 550 <tom@sumo.pacbell.net>... Sender domain not found in DNS (see > RFC 1123, sections 5.2.2 and 5.2.18). > 554 TSHSIA@aol.com... 554 Remote protocol error > > > My ISP is pacbell.net, and my machine name is sumo. Anyone know how to > fix this? Without installing a new version of sendmail, perhaps? As someone who struggled with this exact situation myself, it pleases me greatly to be able to send along what worked for me as a solution: The other ISPs are bouncing your mail because sumo.pacbell.net is an invalid domain. Thus, you must persuade sendmail to hide your machine name in the mail it sends. Your next.mc file might read something like this at the moment (this was mine before the fix below): VERSIONID(`$Id$') OSTYPE(nextstep)dnl DOMAIN(mydomain)dnl FEATURE(stickyhost) FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl FEATURE(redirect)dnl MASQUERADE_AS(bitstream.net)dnl MAILER(local) MAILER(smtp) I spent a lot of time mucking about with the "Sender" field, but was eventually enlightened as follows by Claus Assman on comp.mail.sendmail: "It's not the Sender, but the envelope FROM. Use: FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)" Thus I altered next.mc as follows: VERSIONID(`$Id$') OSTYPE(nextstep)dnl DOMAIN(mydomain)dnl FEATURE(stickyhost) FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl FEATURE(redirect)dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope) MASQUERADE_AS(bitstream.net)dnl MAILER(local) MAILER(smtp) And everything has gone swimmingly ever since. Hope this info helps! ******************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK "Sacred Cows make the best hamburger" -- Mark Twain
From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How about Rhapsody / Intel Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 23:04:20 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970906225619.2190A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, are there any news on Rhapsody for Intel platform. The main question I have is if you think that it will be able to run old OPENSTEP and NeXTSTEP (Intel) applications, i.e. some kind of Green Box or whatever the color might be :-))) Well, I would certainly like to ask if any Apple people read this, if they could bring it to the attention of the developers. Some time ago I sent this suggestion to Apple, but with no response Thanks, have a good day. Rudolf Blazek blazek@stt.msu.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <16621873000033@digifix.com> Date: 7 Sep 1997 03:52:35 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <8835873604833@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
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From: "Michael Warnock" <skill@execpc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with USR 56k pnp on OS4.2 Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 09:35:45 -0500 Organization: Exec-PC BBS Internet - Milwaukee, WI Message-ID: <5utsfe$2b6@newsops.execpc.com> Ok- the modem is plug and play and has no overide jumpers like previous sportsters. In verbose mode i can see the kernel find it along with my awe64 (which works) and i can do a pnpdump on eisa and look at all the fun junk- now from the other end I have an isa serial port driver installed with the correct irq and io (7 and 3e8) but in bootup the serial driver says that the chip is unknown (same place that my mouse's serial port says its irq and stuff) and that is where i am- I have searched all the ftp and web sites for info and found ZIP almost nothing on modems at all and the stuff there was basically assumed it was already being found. I am posting this message with IE on 95 and I am getting tired of rebooting to do so:) Michael Warnock -- Skill Labs
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How about Rhapsody / Intel Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 03:38:40 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <341283DD.1B5A@earthlink.net> References: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970906225619.2190A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rudolf B Blazek wrote: > are there any news on Rhapsody for Intel platform. The main question I > have is if you think that it will be able to run old OPENSTEP and > NeXTSTEP (Intel) applications... Most likely any Openstep apps for intel should run fine on Rhapsody intel. If you install the old NeXT libraries (for intel) then old NeXT apps (for intel) would run too I suspect. Thats' the whole idea anyway isn't it? STEVE K.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SUBMISSION: NXPGP front end for PGP 5.0 Message-ID: <zEihMIweK+ln@cc.usu.edu> From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 7 Sep 97 12:25:48 MDT Distribution: world MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've submitted NXPGP50.app to the archive at ftp.next.peak.org. NXPGP50.app is an OpenStep compliant front end to PGP version 5.0. It provides encryption and decryption of files, directories, and pasteboard selections via the Services menu. The sources also contain patches to PGP 5.0 which allow it to compile under OpenStep 4.2. And now back to the usual "Apple is dying..." threads... edx@cc.usu.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNBL/0+0E6Znrl9ToEQLw6gCgzfo+8LCUv0GK4TAHAp/NG8a+IW0AoLTQ p/FtZ1wYDzdST66asNjvCjQ8 =VU4c -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
From: Dan Nichols <dan@kypris.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: help with msql on black hardware? Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 16:02:16 -0500 Organization: CyberNews Network Message-ID: <34131658.B0523E49@kypris.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone help me? I'm trying to install msql on NeXTSTEP 3.3 on black hardware(Turbo color station). I originally tried version msql-2.0-B7.1, obtained from Bond.edu.au. It failed in the setup. First it complained about not being able to determine my directory routines. I just picked one of the defaults and hoped, then it quit because I don't have "mmap". I then found version msql_1_0_5_1 on Peanuts. It's README says it should run right out of the box on NeXT and it does already have the NeXTOS3.3 target directory already built, but when I try setup, first I get the same complaint about directory routines, again, I just picked one, and it finished setup. BUT when I 'make all' it dies saying gcc -g -I../ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -c regexp.c In file included from regexp.c:26: /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/stdio.h:234: parse error before '*' /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/stdio.h:272: parse error before '*' /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/stdio.h:234: warning: data definition has no type or storage class *** Exit 1 Stop Does anyone know what I need to do or have binaries already built? thanks, Dan -- Daniel A. Nichols [O-] Voice: (972) 790-7255 2905 Lawrence St. Fax: (972) 790-2950 Irving TX 75061-6645 E-Mail: dan@kypris.com LP 40,45,64 NeXTMail Welcome! http://www.kypris.com
Subject: Has any one complied the "TheSelf.app" version 3.3 on OS4.2 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alancook@ibm.net (Alan Cook) Message-ID: <341329d5.0@news1.ibm.net> Date: 7 Sep 97 22:25:25 GMT Has any one complied the "TheSelf.app" version 3.3 and got it to work on openStep 4.2 intel machine, if so could you mail me a copy of the compiled app to alancook@ibm.net (yes I accept Nextmail) Thanks Alan Cook -- Alan Cook alancook@ibm.net
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Has any one complied the "TheSelf.app" version 3.3 on OS4.2 Date: 7 Sep 1997 22:35:59 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5uva8f$kvv$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <341329d5.0@news1.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: alancook@ibm.net In <341329d5.0@news1.ibm.net> Alan Cook wrote: > > Has any one complied the "TheSelf.app" version 3.3 and got it to work > on openStep 4.2 intel machine, if so could you mail me a copy of the > compiled app to alancook@ibm.net (yes I accept Nextmail) I assume you mean ``TheShelf.app'' version 0.3.3 ? There is a compiled version on PEAK, ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/openstep/new_arrivals/ but it requires MiscKit & IconKit to be installed on your machine. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: help with msql on black hardware? Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 18:37:33 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970907183344.6261A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <34131658.B0523E49@kypris.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Dan Nichols <dan@kypris.com> In-Reply-To: <34131658.B0523E49@kypris.com> On Sun, 7 Sep 1997, Dan Nichols wrote: > Can anyone help me? > I'm trying to install msql on NeXTSTEP 3.3 on black hardware(Turbo color > station). > > I originally tried version msql-2.0-B7.1, obtained from Bond.edu.au. > It failed in the setup. First it complained about not being able to > determine my directory routines. I just picked one of the defaults and > hoped, then it quit because I don't have "mmap". > > I then found version msql_1_0_5_1 on Peanuts. It's README says it should > run right out of the box on NeXT and it does already have the NeXTOS3.3 > target directory already built, but when I try setup, first I get the > same complaint about directory routines, again, I just picked one, and > it finished setup. BUT when I 'make all' it dies saying > I have failed to compile version 2.0 as well. And I suspect that it won't be easy/possible. I tried also version 1.7 on ftp.peak.org - seems to compile well on NS 3.3 on Intel. Black should work too. Good luck. Rudy. P.S.: If you use the version 1.7, could you share your experience with the DBKit and EOF adapters that are on the net as well? If you use them, that is. I didn't have much luck. Thanks, Rudy.
From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How about Rhapsody / Intel Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 22:54:46 GMT Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <34132d8c.4550833@news.wco.com> References: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970906225619.2190A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <341283DD.1B5A@earthlink.net> On Sun, 07 Sep 1997 03:38:40 -0700, Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> wrote: >Rudolf B Blazek wrote: >> are there any news on Rhapsody for Intel platform. The main question I >> have is if you think that it will be able to run old OPENSTEP and >> NeXTSTEP (Intel) applications... > >Most likely any Openstep apps for intel should run fine on Rhapsody >intel. If you install the old NeXT libraries (for intel) then old NeXT >apps (for intel) would run too I suspect. > >Thats' the whole idea anyway isn't it? In this case, no. Bear in mind that there is a new kernel, too. That means changes in system call API. There are also some changes in semantics of some system libraries. Running of old NEXTSTEP apps by copying over NEXTSTEP static shared libraries definitely won't work. I suggest treating this as a porting opportunity. Please don't expect to copy over your favorite old NEXTSTEP binaries and have them work. I realize this is inconvenient, and I also realize that some folks expected otherwise, but Apple had to break binary compatability for a number of good reasons. Sorry for the inconvenience, folks.
From: jmeacham@meacham.charm.net (The Rev. James D. Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: mSQL mods for Perl compiled on NeXT? Date: 8 Sep 1997 04:24:50 GMT Organization: Charm.Net Baltimore Internet Access, Hon (410) 558-3900 Message-ID: <5uvumi$rp1$1@news2.charm.net> Hi all, I've been having a hell of a time trying to get the mSQL modules (version 1.1807) to compile on my NeXT 3.3 workstation. Anyone got these working. I've got all the requisite components, but it quits compiling at the MySQL section with complaints about undeclared variables. Any suggestions? Peace, James -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- The Rev. James David Meacham Minister, Webmaster, Philosopher "If people did not sometimes do silly things, nothing intelligent would ever get done." -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Perl5 from next.peak.org won't install Date: 7 Sep 1997 23:15:02 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5v0556$m3u@slip.net> Hi, Upon attempting to install Perl5.0002.NISH.b.tar Installer.app halts with the following dialog box : /tiger/Perl/Perl.pkg can't be installed because it does not contain all of the files in the Perl.pkg package. You should install it directly from the original floppies. The last for lines of the install log are : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/perlxs.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/perlxstut.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/s2p.1 ... OK. Checking /NextLibrary/Receipts/Perl.pkg ... OK. ... done. Installing Perl.pkg into /usr/local ... Running installation program ... Checking if /LocalDeveloper/Libraries and /usr/local/lib are the same directory. Creating symlink /LocalDeveloper/Libraries --> /usr/local/lib Decompressing Perl contents .................. OK. ... errors. Could someone pass this along to the individual who packaged this? Thanks, Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: qpopper vs fetchmail Date: 8 Sep 1997 10:00:57 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5v1b09$jhc@slip.net> Someone posted an OpenStep newsletter and highly recommended Fetchmail. (See below.) I'd been expecting to use Popover. Which is best? Thanks, Emmett Downloading Email from the ISP SendMail and Smail solve the problem of sending mail from a network of computers, or from a single computer running NeXTMail, but they do not help with the problem of downloading email. There are three solutions to that problem. By now few people are running UUCP, so the original NeXT tools are not much help. Popover reaches out to a POP server and downloads mail into the file system for access by the local computers. It is simple and easy to use in Mach. For a more advanced solution try Fetchmail. Fetchmail runs on all the Unix machines, including Mach, but does not have a Mach GUI. Fetchmail talks any variant of POP or IMAP to the server, and forwards the downloaded mail to the local SMTP mail listener.
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Perl5.0002.NISH.b.tar doesn't install Date: 8 Sep 1997 10:07:59 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5v1bdf$k50@slip.net> Hi, I posted on this yesterday but it appears there was a problem with my ISP's usenet connection. (Apologies if this is a redundant post.) I'm using a 040/25. Upon installing Perl.pkg Installer baulked that it could not find all files and the installation bombed. I no longer have the Installer log (it was in my previous post) but the problem occured right after a decompression statement. Might the kind individual who packaged Perl5.002.NISH.b.tar.gz take another look at this? Thanks, Emmett
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: qpopper vs fetchmail Date: 8 Sep 1997 19:01:35 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5v1i2f$o5h$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5v1b09$jhc@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5v1b09$jhc@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > > Someone posted an OpenStep newsletter and highly recommended Fetchmail. > (See below.) > > I'd been expecting to use Popover. > > Which is best? There's that word `best' again. First off, try it yourself: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/Fetchmail.4.1.1.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/Fetchmail.4.1.1.README Secondly, I've never used it, but I've used PopOver. It always worked fine for me. Does Fetchmail allow you to use multiple hosts at once? Can Fetchmail send the messages to a program (pipe it) such as procmail? If it could do that, then it would fit my needs -- but then PopOver did that. I suppose error-handling would be one difference you might want to test.... I belong to the `ain't broke, don't fix it' group, as well as `if you don't need the feature, it ain't really a feature, it's bloat' group. TjL, feeling punchy today -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 15:12:20 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: How about Rhapsody / Intel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <873749086.22756@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service Mike Paquette from Apple writes that we won't be able to just copy over the NeXTSTEP shared libraries and see our favorite NeXT apps run. Too bad, as this was looking like the only way we were going to be able to get ANIMO running on Rhapsody/Intel since Cambridge Animation Systems has seemingly decided not to port the app to Openstep for some ungodly reason. I guess I'll just have to keep running it on NeXTSTEP Jon Hooper hoops@cbc.net -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: max.barel@wanadoo.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Installing NS3.3 to a partitioned disk Date: 8 Sep 1997 20:53:42 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Message-ID: <5v1okm$4s7$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> References: <340f7e64.0@news.pacifier.com> downsj@threadway.downsj.com (Jason Downs) wrote: > >I've got a 3GB disk in my black slab, and NS3.3 media (but no manuals). I >can partition the disk from the CD-ROMs single user shell with disk(8) >just fine-- but then the installer goes and overwrites it with it's stupid >"use the entire the entire disk" default! > >Is there not any way to keep it from doing so? I don't want a single 3GB >NeXTStep filesystem on the disk, and I don't want to use multiple disks on >the box. I remember fighting the same way to have my 2GB partitioned, and when I finaly resign and accept "use the entire disk", the disk was automagicaly partitionned in two 1GB partitions. ________________________ disk> la label information: print, write? pr current label information on disk: disk label version #3 disk label: Disk disk name: IBM DORS-32160 WA0A5U2J disk type: fixed_rw_scsi ncyls 6703 ntrack 5 nsect 63 rpm 3600 sector_size 1024 front_porch 160 back_porch 0 ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_off 0 boot blocks: #1 at 32 #2 at 96 bootfile: mach_kernel host name: localhost root partition: a read/write partition: b part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type a 0 1056193 8192 1024 16 4096 10% yes time yes 4.3BSD b 1056193 1056194 8192 1024 16 4096 10% yes time yes 4.3BSD ---------------- This is due to the limitation of the size of a partition in NS. I'm writing about my own white NS, but on my university's black HW, and with a previous release of NS (i can't remember which one) i've got the disk partioned the way you use. -- mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Call for help: PStill is getting ready for release Date: 9 Sep 1997 00:56:44 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5v26sc$jrl$1@news.seicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: PostScript PDF converter Acrobat NeXTSTEP OpenStep Howdy folks! My PostScript to PDF converter (the term 'distiller' is TM by Adobe so I can't use it ;-)) is getting ready for release. It seems to perform well under most circumstances and input files. However if anyone has some unuseable (say not distillable using Acrobat Distiller) PS files or file containing foreign characters (Japanese, Korean, ...) he/she wants to see supported please send me a short mail and tell me about this file and its size (* please do _not_ send the file in your email! *) and we can talk how to transfer it. PStill ['pe-'stil] is a NeXTSTEP 3.3 application (Quad-Fat), runs on OpenStep too, will be available as shareware (30 $ private / 60 $ commercial) and will be released real soon now to the archives should no more problems surface. It can convert most PostScript Level 1 (with some L2 extensions) PS documents to PDF. It supports compression (PDF-1.2 compatible), inclusion of fonts and much more nifty stuff. And it is for real, no vaporware. :-) Thanks for your support Frank, Area 51 Labs -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu (Brian K. Meadows) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How about Rhapsody / Intel Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 14:16:53 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <34155a28.1379634@news.gatech.edu> References: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970906225619.2190A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <341283DD.1B5A@earthlink.net> <34132d8c.4550833@news.wco.com> On Sun, 07 Sep 1997 22:54:46 GMT, mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) wrote: >>> are there any news on Rhapsody for Intel platform. The main question I >>> have is if you think that it will be able to run old OPENSTEP and >>> NeXTSTEP (Intel) applications... >> >>Most likely any Openstep apps for intel should run fine on Rhapsody >>intel. If you install the old NeXT libraries (for intel) then old NeXT >>apps (for intel) would run too I suspect. >> >>Thats' the whole idea anyway isn't it? > >In this case, no. > >Bear in mind that there is a new kernel, too. That means changes in >system call API. There are also some changes in semantics of some >system libraries. > >Running of old NEXTSTEP apps by copying over NEXTSTEP static shared >libraries definitely won't work. > >I suggest treating this as a porting opportunity. Please don't expect >to copy over your favorite old NEXTSTEP binaries and have them work. >I realize this is inconvenient, and I also realize that some folks >expected otherwise, but Apple had to break binary compatability for a >number of good reasons. > >Sorry for the inconvenience, folks. Will the Developer kit for Rhapsody include some sort of cross compiler from Next to Rhapsody? Or will I have to rewrite all of my custom applications? Brian
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@Apple.Com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How about Rhapsody / Intel Date: 9 Sep 1997 19:09:37 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <5v46th$uh0$1@news.apple.com> References: <34155a28.1379634@news.gatech.edu> Brian K. Meadows writes > Will the Developer kit for Rhapsody include some sort of cross > compiler from Next to Rhapsody? Or will I have to rewrite all of my > custom applications? You'll have to re-write them. NeXT included tools to convert from NEXTSTEP to OPENSTEP in the OPENSTEP 4.x product line, but those tools won't be in the Rhapsody Developer Release. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: "Patrick McGowan" <patmvcr@rogers.wave.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: bad NS3.3 CD-ROM? Date: 9 Sep 1997 21:25:46 GMT Organization: INCO Exploration Message-ID: <01bcbd67$b277ad40$7c327118@patmvcr.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca> anyone ever had a failed NS3.3 User CD-ROM I am trying to install NS3.3 onto my laptop for the first time I keep getting media errors: sd0:Media Error: retrying....... etc is this an error writing to the hard drive (IDE on Tecra 730CDT) or is it a read error due to a bad read of the CD (internal Toshiba)
From: JOHN EDMONDS<ANYWHERE@USA.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: $$$ PUT CASH IN YOUR POCKET $$$ Date: 9 Sep 1997 21:58:19 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <5v4gpr$3ij@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> YOU PROBABLY WON'T MAKE $50,000 OR $40,000 - BUT YOU CAN MAKE $30,000. I'VE DONE IT AND SO CAN YOU! IT'S EASY, AND ONLY YOU CAN SHAPE YOUR DESTINY DO IT TODAY! HERE'S HOW : Simply take a $5.00 bill and send it to each of the 5 people listed below. Do this first. Then, remove the name of the fifth person and replace the number one position with your name Then, simply mail this same letter to atleast 500 people. (of course, the more people you mail it to the more money you will make). Do you follow me so far? Imagine if only 10% of the people send you $5.00. You will be making well into the thousands. Just imagine if more than 10% send you $5.00???????? You need to mail a minimum of 500 copies of this letter either regular postal service or through a fast email service. We listed an email mailing service below that we found will only charge you 1 penny for each email they send for you. They do require a one time $20.00 set up fee to begin though. Remember, copy this letter EXACTLY as it is written, remove the name of the fifth person, and put your name in the numbe one slot. What this will do is make the number one person now become number 2 and the number 2 person now become number 3 and so on. LETS RECAP: 1) First thing you should do is send $5.00 to each of the people listed below . Do this now. 2) Now, copy this letter EXACTLY as it is written. The only change will be to permanently remove the name of the fifth person and replace the number one position with your name and mailing address. By doing this, you will move the number 1 person to the number 2 slot and move the number 2 person to the number 3 slot and move the number 3 person to the number 4 slot and move the number 4 person to the number 5 slot. 3) Now that you have done this, send no less than 500 copies of this letter to as many people as you can. The more copies you mail, the better the response and the more money you make. You can either send this letter to a mailing list via post office or you can send this letter through an email service. Do this right away 4) Now, sit back and wait for the money to come in. Suggested Email Service (They only charge .01/per email + one time $20 set up fee) MBE Email Services P.O. Box 552 Tate, GA 30177 They will send 1000 emails for only $10.00, or 2000 for $20.00 or 5000 for $50.00 and so on. You will need to include the fee + a one time $20 set up fee. Mail a copy of this ad and your money to the above address as soon as possible if you decide to send your letter by email. It is suggested that you send your letter email and regular mail to get the best results. THE FIVE PERSON LIST 1) MIKE ANDREWS 475 SKIDDER WAY JASPER, GA 30143 2) UNICOMM 104 NORTH MAIN STREET SUITE 1 JASPER, GA 30143 3) ANDREW BYRD P.O. BOX 552 TATE, GA 30177 4) JOHN EDMONDS P.O. BOX 132 BIRMINGHAM, AL 30456 5) BILL MYERS 154 LAKE DRIVE SALT LAKE CITY, UT 45634 * SEND EACH PERSON ABOVE A FIVE DOLLAR BILL TODAY - THEN, TOTALLY REMOVE THE NUMBER FIVE PERSON ANDMOVE EACH NAME DOWN PLACING YOUR NAME IN THE NUMBER ONE POSITION. GOOD LUCK -
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5v4gpr$3ij@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5v4gpr$3ij@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Date: 09 Sep 1997 21:58:19 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5v4gpr$3ij@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Sender: JOHN EDMONDS<ANYWHERE@USA.COM> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "Patrick McGowan" <patmvcr@rogers.wave.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP FDISK disaster!!!!!!!!!! Date: 10 Sep 1997 01:48:37 GMT Organization: INCO Exploration Message-ID: <01bcbd8c$67a88620$7c327118@patmvcr.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca> I was trying to load NextStep3.3 User in a free block on my 2.1G hard drive. The block was sandwiched between the primary DOS partition and the extended DOS partition. When prompted where to install NextStep, there was no option to leave the extended DOS partion alone and just load NS into the free space...it saw everything beyond the primary DOS partition as free space. Instead of just stopping there, i selected the option of leaving some of the "free"space as NextStep the rest for DOS......in the hope that the extended DOS partions might still be there after the install.....well I got cold feet and ditched the install, but when I came back out into the DOD/Windows95 world the extended partions were no longer receognized......ugh Are these partitions lost forever? Is there any way to recover them? I had backed up most of the files a few weeks ago, but a few important files were not. I have not reformatted those sectors of the drive or done anything else since......except look at them in Partition Magic, an interactive partitioning application in DOS. Can I use something from Norton Disk Doctor to find the beginning of my old partitions?...I had a lot af spare space between the original "free" space and my important DOD partitions...it was set aside as swap space for Windows 95. HELP!!!!!
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bad NS3.3 CD-ROM? Date: 10 Sep 1997 01:52:50 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5v4uhi$eu4$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <01bcbd67$b277ad40$7c327118@patmvcr.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: patmvcr@rogers.wave.ca In <01bcbd67$b277ad40$7c327118@patmvcr.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca> "Patrick McGowan" wrote: > > anyone ever had a failed NS3.3 User CD-ROM > I am trying to install NS3.3 onto my laptop for the first time > > I keep getting media errors: > > sd0:Media Error: retrying....... > > etc > > is this an error writing to the hard drive (IDE on Tecra 730CDT) or is it a > read error due to a bad read of the CD (internal Toshiba) That's the hard drive, I'd guess. Make sure that the ID of the CD is higher than HD. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AVI and MOV players? Date: 10 Sep 1997 04:55:12 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5v597g$8u1@crcnis3.unl.edu> Does anybody know where I can get a player for AVI and/or MOV files for my Nextstation? I've checked the peak and peanuts ftp archives, but I really didn't see anything. TIA, -Josh
From: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:59:54 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Load Test Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5v69df$491@lztnsc06.att.com> References: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> In article <5ucl5k$5g4$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) wrote: > "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> wrote: > >Hello next-web afficionados, > > "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> wrote: >Hello next-web afficionados, > > >I don't know how I can expand the files with the extension b.tar.gz with >Openstep for Mach 4.1. > The ending .b. indicates it's a binary and is of no further use. tar indicates 'TAR' archives and gz indicates 'GnuZIP. You can use gunzip and tar -x together or use gnutar -zxf <file> Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de)
From: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:59:59 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Load Test Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5v69dl$54v@lztnsc06.att.com> References: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> In article <5ucl5k$5g4$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) wrote: > "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> wrote: > >Hello next-web afficionados, > > "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> wrote: >Hello next-web afficionados, > > >I don't know how I can expand the files with the extension b.tar.gz with >Openstep for Mach 4.1. > The ending .b. indicates it's a binary and is of no further use. tar indicates 'TAR' archives and gz indicates 'GnuZIP. You can use gunzip and tar -x together or use gnutar -zxf <file> Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de)
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OPENSTEP 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 Date: 10 Sep 1997 14:55:21 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5v6ccp$p75$4@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5v5nto$rv6@bcalpha.estec.esa.nl> <3416718A.2781@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> wrote: > SCHWETTERLE Marc wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Can somebody summarize the differences between those 3 releases ? > > alpha-, beta-, work-release I concur. That is exactly correct. -- Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck --------------------------------------------------------------------- chuck_esterbrook@orcacomputer.com / vo 540 231-3475 / fx 540 231-3480 Orca Computer, Inc. / 1800 Kraft Dr. Suite 111 / Blacksburg, VA 24060 arge application from 3.3 to 4.1. Parden my bluntness, but those scripts were a bunch of crap. I can't really decide whether or not they created more work than what they saved. They did all kinds of stupid things with my strings. Something like wrapping a C string literal with the creation of an NSString and then asking that for its -cString and then passing that to a method that I wanted to take an NSString anyway. All it had to do was change "something" to @"something". It would also change my method prototypes in .h files but leave the ones in the .m so I had to edit all the .m's to match. There were other various problems. I had to edit almost every statement and had to read every line of source code at least once. The retain-release-autorelease bugs that resulted took a long time to weed out. Porting from 3.x to OPENSTEP was the unhappiest period in my software development career. It made me depressed and after I was "finished" all I had was the same app with more bugs and less speed. Now after months I've got stability and speed again. I'm glad that's over! I don't know that you are losing all that much by not having the scripts. Start with a small project, get your hands on the conversion guide that NeXT wrote, study it and make good use of SearchAndReplace.app. For those that still need the conversion guide it would be nice if Apple put it on their website (Apple are you listening?). Good luck! -- Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck --------------------------------------------------------------------- chuck_esterbrook@orcacomputer.com / vo 540 231-3475 / fx 540 231-3480 Orca Computer, Inc. / 1800 Kraft Dr. Suite 111 / Blacksburg, VA 24060
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ppp2.3 connecting but DNS doesn't work Date: 10 Sep 1997 01:32:38 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5v5lv6$2oo@slip.net> Hi, I've installed ppp2.3b3 on a 040/25 machine. Sometimes, actually usually, after establishing a ppp connection DNS doesn't work. My /etc/resolv.conf file looks like this : domain slip.net nameserver 207.171.208.10 nameserver 207.171.208.11 Ah, in the 2.3 installation instructions there is no documentation on just how to make the resolv.conf entries. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Emmett
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bad NS3.3 CD-ROM? Date: 10 Sep 1997 15:02:23 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5v6cpv$9tb@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5v4uhi$eu4$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <5v4uhi$eu4$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > In <01bcbd67$b277ad40$7c327118@patmvcr.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca> "Patrick > McGowan" wrote: > > anyone ever had a failed NS3.3 User CD-ROM I am trying to install NS3.3 > > onto my laptop for the first time > > I keep getting media errors: > > sd0:Media Error: retrying....... > > etc > > is this an error writing to the hard drive (IDE on Tecra 730CDT) or is > > it a read error due to a bad read of the CD (internal Toshiba) > > That's the hard drive, I'd guess. If he's using and IDE hard drive (as he implied), then sd0 IS the CDROM. > Make sure that the ID of the CD is higher than HD. NOT applicable here, since he's using EIDE/ATAPI. In my experience, media errors are caused by either a fault/dirty CDROM or drive. Try cleaning the CDROM and possibly the drive (with compressed air), and try again. That's helped me on several occasions. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: mschwett@estec.esa.nl (SCHWETTERLE Marc) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OPENSTEP 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 Date: 10 Sep 1997 09:06:00 GMT Organization: . Message-ID: <5v5nto$rv6@bcalpha.estec.esa.nl> Hi, Can somebody summarize the differences between those 3 releases ? Thanks, M.S.
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OPENSTEP 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:08:10 +0200 Organization: Max Plank Institut for Polymer Research Message-ID: <3416718A.2781@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5v5nto$rv6@bcalpha.estec.esa.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SCHWETTERLE Marc wrote: > > Hi, > > Can somebody summarize the differences between those 3 releases ? alpha-, beta-, work-release stefan _____________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G.\ |E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME/NeXT welcome) | |Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 __/___/ | |Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| |WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried \_/ \_/| | There are only three types of computer users: | | Those that use NeXTs. Those that wished they used NeXTs. | | Those that don't know what they are missing. | \_____________________________________________________________________/
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How about Rhapsody / Intel Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:15:53 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EGAF6I.3CF@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <5v46th$uh0$1@news.apple.com> In article <5v46th$uh0$1@news.apple.com> MaRK_BeSSeY@Apple.Com (Mark Bessey) writes: > NeXT included tools to convert from NEXTSTEP > to OPENSTEP in the OPENSTEP 4.x product line, > those tools won't be in > the Rhapsody Developer Release. AARRRRRRGGGHHHHHH - this could be REALLY BAD. Like a number of NeXT developers, I looked at 4.0 and decided to hold off upgrading my machine. I'm still activly developing on 3.[23], and was planning on making the hop to OpenStep with the first Rhapsody release. I've tried the conversion tools under 4.X, and expected they'd make the transition of most of my apps relatilvy easy (a few hours work - I write small!). Without the scripts I'll be completly sunk, unless I get 4.X just to do the conversion! I realise that there are problems including all the different libraries and headers that allowed the six stage conversion, but I'd be happy enough with a single pass (sufficient for small programs, and the six stage doesnt work for LARGE programs anyway). Otherwise I'm going to be sitting at my Rhapsody machine with no way of porting my code, other than manuall rewriting. $an
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How about Rhapsody / Intel Date: 10 Sep 1997 15:48:03 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5v6ffj$97r$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5v46th$uh0$1@news.apple.com> <EGAF6I.3CF@cam-ani.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ians@cam-ani.co.uk,MaRK_BeSSeY@Apple.Com In <EGAF6I.3CF@cam-ani.co.uk> Ian Stephenson wrote: > > In article <5v46th$uh0$1@news.apple.com> MaRK_BeSSeY@Apple.Com (Mark > Bessey) writes: > > NeXT included tools to convert from NEXTSTEP > > to OPENSTEP in the OPENSTEP 4.x product line, > > those tools won't be in > > the Rhapsody Developer Release. > > > AARRRRRRGGGHHHHHH - this could be REALLY BAD. I tend to agree. Although I understand that the scripts were not a cure-all, it would seem like a small thing to include them, but a large thing not to include them. Any chance they could be made available on NeXTanswers or elsewhere on ftp.next.com? TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: 1reich@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Stefan Reich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin Subject: Q: mounting ufs (SUN) filesystems Date: 10 Sep 1997 16:56:54 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg Message-ID: <5v6jgm$lg9$1@heinz.home.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi folks! Is it possible either to mount a 4.3 BSD file system while running Solaris 2.6 or a ufs file system while running Nextstep 3.3???? This is because I have two boot disks in my Sunstation, one with SOLARIS for development, the other with good old Nextstep for everything else. Since I don't want to have two different home directories under each os I am desperately seeking a solution. --------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Reich Tel: +49-40-85374422 Ruhrstr. 28 Fax: +49-40-85374443 22761 Hamburg 1reich@informatik.uni-hamburg.de Germany (NeXTMail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep From: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Sender: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Message-ID: <cancel.5v6a51$ga3@lztnsc06.att.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5v6a51$ga3@lztnsc06.att.com> ignore Control: cancel <5v6a51$ga3@lztnsc06.att.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:12:27 GMT Distribution: inet ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Sep 10 17:42:50 1997 Original subject was: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ?
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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep From: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Sender: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Message-ID: <cancel.5v69dl$54v@lztnsc06.att.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5v69dl$54v@lztnsc06.att.com> ignore Control: cancel <5v69dl$54v@lztnsc06.att.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:59:59 GMT Distribution: inet ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Sep 10 17:42:44 1997 Original subject was: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next From: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Sender: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Message-ID: <cancel.5v6a3f$fdt@lztnsc06.att.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5v6a3f$fdt@lztnsc06.att.com> ignore Control: cancel <5v6a3f$fdt@lztnsc06.att.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:11:38 GMT ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Sep 10 17:47:16 1997 Original subject was: Re: S: PGP for NS 3.3 Intel
From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: help with msql on black hardware? Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:18:17 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970910141447.29605B-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <34131658.B0523E49@kypris.com> <Pine.SOL.3.96.970907183344.6261A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970907183344.6261A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> On Sun, 7 Sep 1997, Rudolf B Blazek wrote: > > > On Sun, 7 Sep 1997, Dan Nichols wrote: > > > Can anyone help me? > > I'm trying to install msql on NeXTSTEP 3.3 on black hardware(Turbo color > > station). > > > > I originally tried version msql-2.0-B7.1, obtained from Bond.edu.au. > > It failed in the setup. First it complained about not being able to > > determine my directory routines. I just picked one of the defaults and > > hoped, then it quit because I don't have "mmap". > > > > I then found version msql_1_0_5_1 on Peanuts. It's README says it should > > run right out of the box on NeXT and it does already have the NeXTOS3.3 > > target directory already built, but when I try setup, first I get the > > same complaint about directory routines, again, I just picked one, and > > it finished setup. BUT when I 'make all' it dies saying > > > > I have failed to compile version 2.0 as well. And I suspect that it won't > be easy/possible. > > I tried also version 1.7 on ftp.peak.org - seems to compile well on NS 3.3 > on Intel. Black should work too. > > Good luck. > > Rudy. > > P.S.: If you use the version 1.7, could you share your experience with the > DBKit and EOF adapters that are on the net as well? If you use them, that > is. I didn't have much luck. Thanks, Rudy. > > I am replying to my own message, since I got a response from Aleksey that I was asked to put on the usenet. In addition, there is one more person who sent me a patch to compile mSQL 2.0 on OS 4.2, so it should work on NS 3.3 (going to try that soon.) Thanks. Rudy blazek@stt.msu.edu -------------- included reply ---------- Hey, sorry I cannot post to usenet, so perhaps you could forward this message to the other guy as well. >I have failed to compile version 2.0 as well. And I suspect that it won't >be easy/possible. Well, I have "ported" (compiled) mSQL.2.0.rel to OpenStep Intel. I don't think there should be a problem with NeXT boxes, thought one need to do some tweaks in the target directory. Anyway, the source is available at http://dev.rkinc.com/~zander/Projects/projects.html It works fine for me. I know about just one problem (DATEs and TIMEs doesn't work 100%). Hope that would help, Aleksey
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Perl5.0002.NISH.b.tar doesn't install Date: 10 Sep 1997 17:42:18 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EG9Fxz.7AC@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <5v1bdf$k50@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: > I'm using a 040/25. Upon installing Perl.pkg > Installer baulked that it could not find all > files and the installation bombed. > > I no longer have the Installer log (it was > in my previous post) but the problem occured > right after a decompression statement. > > Might the kind individual who packaged > Perl5.002.NISH.b.tar.gz take another look > at this? A more recent packaged version of perl (the almost-most recent version in fact, i.e. 5.004_02 [*]) is available at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/devtools/perl/perl.5.004_02.NIHS.b.pkg.tar.gz (~3.3M) It is built with the NS3.3 compiler, so it should run on NS3.3 and OS/Mach 4.x. There's a good chance it works on 3.2, and it might even work on 3.1... If you want to build your own perl modules, you also need: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/devtools/perl/perlCORE.5.004_02.NIHS.b.pkg.tar.gz (~1.5M) (There are still some problems with this: the Config.pm as shipped contains some silly paths--which I will try to rectify in the next release; and modules compiled with the OPENSTEP compiler fail to dynamically load in perl.) [*] The _most_ recent version, 5.004_03, is primarily a bugfix release to make perl compile again on VMS, so I didn't see the point of creating yet another binary release. (especially since it was released within a week or so of 02, just after I built and uploaded the packages :-/) -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.dev.null.nl> (work) __/__/__/ <<SPAMBLOCK: remove .dev.null to continue>> __/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Upgrage to 4.2 worth it ? Date: 10 Sep 1997 18:21:50 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <5v6ofu$eu$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greetings, I am wondering wether or not to upgrade from ns3.2 to os4.2, I imagine many of you would have comments and recommendations to make. In particular I am wondering how many 3.3-or-earlier apps could break with 4.2, as well as performance issues (since I "only" have a p-100). Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
From: bdm@vayu.psych.nyu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: g77 on OS4.2 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:19:02 GMT Organization: New York University Message-ID: <970910101902.401AAG1F.bdm@vayu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Keywords: g77 Does anyone have src or binaries for g77 that will work under OpenStep 4.2? Thanks in advance, Brian Brian McElree Program in Cognition & Perception Department of Psychology New York University <bdm@xp.psych.nyu.edu> NeXT Mail <bdm@vayu.psych.nyu.edu>
From: gnosis@charm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet on the NeXT Date: 10 Sep 1997 20:31:45 GMT Organization: Charm.Net Baltimore Internet Access, Hon (410) 558-3900 Message-ID: <5v703i$778$1@news2.charm.net> References: <01bcbe22$1ab3fca0$4e0101c0@#nandrico> In-Reply-To: <01bcbe22$1ab3fca0$4e0101c0@#nandrico> On 09/10/97, "Nathanael Andrico" wrote: >How do I get on the net with my NeXT? I'm new to the NeXT world, about 2 >weeks. I have a NeXT Color Station 33mhz with 64MB of RAM and a USRobotics >33.6 Modem ver 3.3. >As far as I can tell there is no PPP on my system. > >I'm humbly asking for someones help. > >Thank you > >Nathanael Andrico > The easiest thing to do is get the Internext Starter Kit off the archives. Confiugring PPP another is possible, but not fun. The Starter Kit makes it almost as easy as (sad to say) Win95's "dialup networking" James -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- The Rev. James David Meacham Minister, Webmaster, Philosopher "If people did not sometimes do silly things, nothing intelligent would ever get done." -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
From: "Nathanael Andrico" <nandrico@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <01bcbe22$1ab3fca0$4e0101c0@#nandrico> Control: cancel <01bcbe22$1ab3fca0$4e0101c0@#nandrico> Date: 10 Sep 1997 20:13:32 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <01bcbe26$03d5a8e0$4e0101c0@#nandrico>
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Upgrage to 4.2 worth it ? Date: 10 Sep 1997 22:26:34 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5v76qq$7jv$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5v6ofu$eu$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca In <5v6ofu$eu$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Antoine Gautier wrote: > In particular I am wondering how many 3.3-or-earlier apps could > break with 4.2, as well as performance issues (since I "only" have > a p-100). Unless you are a developer looking to do programming, or there's some OpenStep app you really want; I'd wait. There aren't any pre-3.3 apps which should break. A few 2.x might, but the shlibs would still copy over to 4.x.... So the answer really depends on whether it is worth it, with Rhapsody around a year-or-so corner.... TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: bobs@terrapin.phys.washington.edu (Robert Singleton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Netscape for NS3.2 (black) Date: 10 Sep 1997 23:42:26 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <5v7b92$10ks@nntp6.u.washington.edu> Would anyone have a compiled binary of Netscape for NS3.2 on black hardware? Right now I'm using Mosaic, which doesn't understand the (highly popular) Netscape table formats, and therefore many, if not most, websites are off limits to me. If Netscape is not available, is there an alternative web browser to Mosaic (besides omniweb)? If you have any suggestions, would you please contact me via email at the address below. Thanks very much. -- Robert Singleton work: (206) 543-9640 Department of Physics fax : (206) 685-0635 University of Washington office: B416 Phys & Astronomy Bldg. Box 351560 bobs@terrapin.phys.washington.edu Seattle, WA 98195 http://terrapin.phys.washington.edu/~bobs
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS3.0 Partition Question Date: 11 Sep 1997 02:42:10 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5v7lq2$682$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5v7802$ia6$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lewandow@u.arizona.edu In <5v7802$ia6$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Christopher J Lewandowski-pearson wrote: > > I have recently taken over administration on a Cube. For whatever > reason, the previous users had partitioned the 660meg HDD into > two partitions: > > (1) 440 meg partition mounted as / (root) (/dev/sd0a) > (2) 200 meg partition mounted under root (/dev/sd0b) > > For some reason, the second partition is not visable to users. They > can access it from a UNIX shell, but it does not show up the "desktop". How can they access it? Where is it mounted? Is there an entry in /etc/fstab for it? TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Netscape for NS3.2 (black) Date: 11 Sep 1997 03:44:00 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5v7pe0$682$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5v7b92$10ks@nntp6.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bobs@terrapin.phys.washington.edu In <5v7b92$10ks@nntp6.u.washington.edu> Robert Singleton wrote: > > Would anyone have a compiled binary of Netscape for NS3.2 on > black hardware? No, Netscape never ported to NeXTStep > Right now I'm using Mosaic, which doesn't understand the > (highly popular) Netscape table formats, and therefore > many, if not most, websites are off limits to me. If Netscape > is not available, is there an alternative web browser to > Mosaic (besides omniweb)? Why not OmniWeb? There is NetSurfer: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/news/Netsurfer.2.0.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/news/Netsurfer.2.0.README see also: http://www.netsurfer.com/openstep.html but it does not have a free single user license TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: morrowc@morrowc.his.com (Chris Morrow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep woes Date: 11 Sep 1997 03:32:51 GMT Organization: Heller Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <5v7op3$1lb@news3.his.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970901200555.2964A-100000@cc643893-a> On Mon, 1 Sep 1997 20:10:25 -0400, Kai <root@sakurakai.com> wrote: >Yeah, yeah, I know...but this is getting frustrating... > >There seem to be a great many simple, but useful unix and more >specifically and important to me, perl modules that just ain't on >Nextstep. Most of the CPAN modules you have to build/configure on ANY unix/NT platform you should download the module from your local CPAN Archive and build it... easy as pie:) most come with standard readme's and most follow the following steps: perl Makefile.PL make make test make install I have ahad a few problems "compiling" some modules, but that is due (I think) to my gcc 1.3.3 rather than my nextstep 3.3...I just need to upgrade to a later version of gcc...which is going to require some disk space I'm afraid. > >Why? > >the thought of having to run linux to get some simple perl modules running >is making me ill. just say no:) (I love linux...bu tmy black box won;t run it:( ) > >Am I not looking in the right places? (peanuts/peal)? Or are these things >just not out there? > >If anyone can point me to the msqlperl or postgres95perl modules that I >can install on nextstep lease let me know. you want DBI/DBD-msql/DBD-postgres (I think) -Chris
From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AVI and MOV players? Date: 10 Sep 97 17:51:15 GMT Message-ID: <5v6mmj$bne$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <5v597g$8u1@crcnis3.unl.edu> Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik RFC1036/822 KY key.GUN.de [DUUCP BETA vom 14.07.1997] In <5v597g$8u1@crcnis3.unl.edu> Josh Hesse wrote: > > > Does anybody know where I can get a player for AVI and/or MOV files > for my Nextstation? > At peanuts, you can find Movie, which can play some avis , but not all. As far as mov is concerned, I only know of NeXtime, which used to be sold, but now is available second hand only (ask people who bought OS4.2 whether it is included or not). The problem with nextime is, it can't play all of the new mov neither. There are some which use new kinds of sound compression etc...and nextime can't handle that. Ok, that's all I know of Adios Martin
From: "Eric R. Balch" <erbalch@adnc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP! Lighthouse apps for NEXTSTEP Date: 11 Sep 1997 06:00:02 GMT Organization: SynapSys Technologies Message-ID: <01bcbe77$d6d06ae0$9d0b9ecf@quasar> Greetings all! I recall reading some time back that Lighthouse had put all of its "old" NEXTSTEP apps into the public domain, so to speak. I remember they had posted license strings for all of them along with the versions they belonged to. When I follow that link now, I see the list but no license strings! Does anyone know what became of this policy? Did anyone save the list of license strings? If so, can you _please_ send them to me? I finally brought my NeXTStation back from the dead and when I went to load it with these apps... Well you knoww the rest! Any help or info anyone can offer would be much appreciated! Thank you, Eric PS. Post AND email me direct if you don't mind.
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - replace "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OPENSTEP 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 Date: 11 Sep 1997 06:20:13 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5v82it$gut@mochi.lava.net> References: <5v5nto$rv6@bcalpha.estec.esa.nl> mschwett@estec.esa.nl (SCHWETTERLE Marc) wrote: > Can somebody summarize the differences between those 3 releases ? 4.0 - Lots of bugs, very slow 4.1 - Bugs, slow 4.2 - Fewer bugs, less slow :-) -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP! Lighthouse apps for NEXTSTEP Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:17:59 +0200 Organization: Max Plank Institut for Polymer Research Message-ID: <3417A937.2781@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <01bcbe77$d6d06ae0$9d0b9ecf@quasar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Eric R. Balch" <erbalch@adnc.com> Eric R. Balch wrote: > > Greetings all! > > I recall reading some time back that Lighthouse had put all of its "old" > NEXTSTEP apps into the public domain, so to speak. I remember they had > posted license strings for all of them along with the versions they > belonged to. When I follow that link now, I see the list but no license > strings! > > Does anyone know what became of this policy? Did anyone save the list of > license strings? If so, can you _please_ send them to me? I finally > brought my NeXTStation back from the dead and when I went to load it with > these apps... Well you knoww the rest! > > Any help or info anyone can offer would be much appreciated! > > Thank you, > Eric > > PS. Post AND email me direct if you don't mind. ftp://ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LighthouseDesign/index.html -- _____________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G.\ |E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME/NeXT welcome) | |Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 __/___/ | |Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| |WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried \_/ \_/| | There are only three types of computer users: | | Those that use NeXTs. Those that wished they used NeXTs. | | Those that don't know what they are missing. | \_____________________________________________________________________/
From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: neXT Step Date: 11 Sep 1997 09:47:07 GMT Message-ID: <19970911094701.FAA18302@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com SnewsLanguage: English Can someone tell me the cost of a used copy of neXT Step developer? I am looking to buy some black hardware and am having a hard time choosing between Deepspace or buying from an individual, as most of you are aware Deepspace doesnt include developer in their package deals, but most of the ones being sold on the newsgroup do,I have seen Developer on I belive the Black Hole site for 4,999.00 (ouch)is this what is being included with some of the neXT that I see for sale?(I assume that it isnt).
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OPENSTEP 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 Date: 11 Sep 1997 13:07:37 GMT Organization: none Distribution: world Message-ID: <5v8qep$mnr$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5v5nto$rv6@bcalpha.estec.esa.nl> <5v82it$gut@mochi.lava.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <5v82it$gut@mochi.lava.net> Art Isbell - replace "DOT" wrote: > mschwett@estec.esa.nl (SCHWETTERLE Marc) wrote: > > > Can somebody summarize the differences between those 3 releases ? > > 4.0 - Lots of bugs, very slow > 4.1 - Bugs, slow > 4.2 - Fewer bugs, less slow Can someone comment on the bugs, slowness, etc of 4.1? I'm trying to convince myself, and later my wife, of the reasons to get 4.2, and such information would be quite helpful. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: neXT Step Date: 11 Sep 1997 14:01:31 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5v8tjr$53f$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <19970911094701.FAA18302@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: markm3leit@aol.com In <19970911094701.FAA18302@ladder01.news.aol.com> MARKM3LEIT wrote: > Can someone tell me the cost of a used copy of neXT Step developer? If you want the commercial version, which allows you to sell something you create with it, then it's $5k. Ouch is right. At least it is upgradable. If you want the academic version, which is not upgradable and does not allow you to sell anything you make with it, then you might be able to find it for a couple hundred on csn.marketplace. Or just wait for Rhapsody, which outta be a lot cheaper.... TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: "Heath Tucker" <heatht@mindspring.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Grade keeping programs for NEXTSTEP Date: 11 Sep 1997 14:38:40 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <01bcbebf$effe9080$03ac2ac0@cupertino> Hello everyone, My mother is a 6th grade teacher. She just had the use of her Macintosh which was on loan from the school system revoked because of budgeting etc. She had been using a great program, Grade Machine, to keep track of her students' progress. She needs another computer/software package quickly because classes have started up again. I want to suggest that she buy a NeXT because they are so affordable right now but a computer is only as useful for someone as its software is. Does anyone know of any good teacher oriented grade keeping programs for NeXT? It should be able to keep averages and print progress reports, nothing too fancy. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated I need to get something set up for her very soon. She is back in the stone ages again now with a grade book and sliding average scale! Thanks for any suggestions, Heath Tucker ps-I tried Executor w/Grade Machine but it mangles the printing and is too slow to be useable on an '040-25. I think I need a native NEXTSTEP solution.
From: Christopher J Lewandowski-pearson <lewandow@u.arizona.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS3.0 Partition Question Date: 11 Sep 1997 14:46:33 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <5v9089$l2s$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <5v7802$ia6$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> I'm sorry, I guess I left out the important info! Here is the fstab entries: /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd0b /clients 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 Also, if a user is in the unix shell, they can (from the command line) see the directory /clients and access it like "normal". It just does not appear in the "Graphical" desktop as an icon. Thanks, -Chris
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Grade keeping programs for NEXTSTEP Date: 11 Sep 1997 15:50:13 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5v93vl$7br@shelob.afs.com> References: <01bcbebf$effe9080$03ac2ac0@cupertino> "Heath Tucker" <heatht@mindspring.com> writes > Does anyone know of any good teacher oriented grade keeping programs for > NeXT? It should be able to keep averages and print progress reports, > nothing too fancy. I doubt you will find anything. To the best of my knowledge, only one K-12 school system ever bought in to NEXTSTEP, and I don't think they used it for administrative purposes. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "We're in the land of the blind, Visionary Ophthalmologist | selling working eyeballs, and they Anderson Financial Systems | balk at the choice of color." -- Tony greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | Lovell, on Mac user reactions to NeXT
From: Fred Schenkelberg <fms@vcd.hp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for a Font Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:19:41 -0700 Organization: HP Vancouver Site Message-ID: <3418363D.782B@vcd.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Does anyone know of an available font for NeXTStep 3.3 that has the stick and circle features of those charts in 1st grade when first leaning to print? I'm working on some teaching aids for my wife and would like the vary basic font that is close to (or is) the font the children are learning. Thanks, Fred Schenkelberg fms@vcd.hp.com
From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet on the NeXT Date: 11 Sep 1997 19:12:29 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <5v9fqt$e4t$2@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <01bcbe25$ff8c8d80$4e0101c0@#nandrico> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nandrico@ix.netcom.com In <01bcbe25$ff8c8d80$4e0101c0@#nandrico> "Nathanael Andrico" wrote: > > How do I get on the net with my NeXT? I'm new to the NeXT world, about 2 > weeks. I have a NeXT Color Station 33mhz with 64MB of RAM and a USRobotics > 33.6 Modem ver 3.3. > As far as I can tell there is no PPP on my system. > > I'm humbly asking for someones help. > > Thank you > > Nathanael Andrico > > nandrico@ix.netcom.com Hi ! Well, here's what I did: I got the latest ppp-package from one of the archives. Also Gatekeeper, a great App for dialling in and managing ppp. Then PopOver, a pop-client for getting your mail...and that's IT. Usually, the information supplied is enough for installing the whole stuff and running it. I had no problem. Once you're online, you can ftp other nice Apps, but the ones I mentioned are "mas o menos" rudimentary. Adios Martin
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS3.0 Partition Question Date: 11 Sep 1997 19:30:45 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5v9gt5$o68$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5v7802$ia6$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <5v9089$l2s$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lewandow@u.arizona.edu In <5v9089$l2s$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Christopher J Lewandowski-pearson wrote: > Here is the fstab entries: > > /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 > /dev/sd0b /clients 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 > > Also, if a user is in the unix shell, they can (from the command line) > see the directory /clients and access it like "normal". It just does > not appear in the "Graphical" desktop as an icon. That's very interesting... and very strange also. If you use ``Unix Expert'' in Preferences, can you see it then? If you are in a shell, what do you see when you do: ls -lgd /clients TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP! Lighthouse apps for NEXTSTEP Date: 11 Sep 1997 20:55:43 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5v9lsf$c8l@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <01bcbe77$d6d06ae0$9d0b9ecf@quasar> <3417A937.2781@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Stefan Ried (ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de) wrote: : : ftp://ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LighthouseDesign/index.html : Are you sure? The file I got off of there was LicenseStrings.txt. Hope this helps: LicenseStrings.txt: Taken from:http://www.lighthouse.com/CurrentProductVersionNumbers.html PRODUCT VERSION NUMBERS ================================= AirMail 3.1.5 opppjldfd Concurrence 2.77 544445qor Diagram 2.5 llllkhjj EquationBuilder 3.3 dccdptqor OmniPDF 2.1 oppogj9bf OpenWrite 2.1.8 452r04643 ParaSheet 1.7 ghhhikrpr Quantrix 2.4 8999dwtvr TaskMaster 1.81 badkfetvn VarioData 3.22 100056b9b WetPaint 1.7 tsssqoprr NOTE: Watch those o's (o) and zeros (0) and ones (1) and l's (l) in license strings! These applications, which run under NEXTSTEP, are no longer available for purchase since NEXTSTEP is no longer a shipping operating system from NeXT Software/Apple Computer, Inc. When Rhapsody becomes a shipping product, watch our web site for potential new product announcements. In the interest of helping our longtime users, we are giving you a free 2 user license for all Lighthouse applications excluding FrameMaker (only available from Adobe Systems, Inc.), OmniWeb (which already has a 1-user license) and JavaPlan (which is a currently shipping product). There is NO EMAIL SUPPORT available for any of these products, effective July 1, 1997. Check our FAQ server or the online documentation for support assistance. A brief _description_ of the Lighthouse Design applications is available. The quickest way to obtain the most current version of any Lighthouse Design products is to visit our _web site_, click the Support button, scroll to the bottom of the page and click the Download Legacy Applications button. _ _)_ _Product literature and demonstration software_ are available. For more information about this or any other Lighthouse Design product, send e-mail to _info@lighthouse.com._ _Copyright 1995 Lighthouse Design, Ltd._ 2929 Campus Drive, San Mateo, CA 94403 USA. All rights reserved.
From: Christopher J Lewandowski-pearson <lewandow@u.arizona.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS3.0 Partition Question Date: 11 Sep 1997 22:03:08 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <5v9pqs$q0e$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <5v7802$ia6$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <5v9089$l2s$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <5v9gt5$o68$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma <nospam@all.please> wrote: > In <5v9089$l2s$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Christopher J Lewandowski-pearson > wrote: > That's very interesting... and very strange also. > If you use ``Unix Expert'' in Preferences, can you see it then? > If you are in a shell, what do you see when you do: > ls -lgd /clients > TjL I set my preferences to UNIX expert and there it was! Thanks!! -Chris
From: wchope@owt.com (wchope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Windows 95 Help For Free Date: 11 Sep 1997 23:48:03 GMT Organization: One World Telecommunications Message-ID: <5v9vvj$451@news.owt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII If any one would like free help with running windows 95 please send E-mail to ghope1@juno.com.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS3.0 Partition Question Date: 12 Sep 1997 02:35:24 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5va9pc$c2q$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5v7802$ia6$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <5v9089$l2s$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <5v9gt5$o68$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5v9pqs$q0e$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lewandow@u.arizona.edu Check the file /.hidden and see if it has an entry for ``clients''. If it does, remove it. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Grade keeping programs for NEXTSTEP Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 02:36:03 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970912022903.13061A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <01bcbebf$effe9080$03ac2ac0@cupertino> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Heath Tucker <heatht@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <01bcbebf$effe9080$03ac2ac0@cupertino> On 11 Sep 1997, Heath Tucker wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My mother is a 6th grade teacher. She just had the use of her Macintosh > which was on loan from the school system revoked because of budgeting etc. > She had been using a great program, Grade Machine, to keep track of her > students' progress. She needs another computer/software package quickly > because classes have started up again. I want to suggest that she buy a > NeXT because they are so affordable right now but a computer is only as > useful for someone as its software is. > Does anyone know of any good teacher oriented grade keeping programs for > NeXT? It should be able to keep averages and print progress reports, > nothing too fancy. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated I need to get > something set up for her very soon. She is back in the stone ages again > now with a grade book and sliding average scale! > > > Thanks for any suggestions, > Heath Tucker > > ps-I tried Executor w/Grade Machine but it mangles the printing and is too > slow to be useable on an '040-25. I think I need a native NEXTSTEP > solution. > > > I would suggest to browse the ftp sites at ftp://ftp.peak.org and ftp://ftp.evolution.com (searchable index can be found at http://peanuts.leo.org but that is in Germany, so it might be slower). I wrote a bit more complex model from Quantrix.app which is free and quite powerful spreadsheet program. By quite powerful I mean that its kind of a hybrid between spreadsheet and database (hmm, in some sense, anyway). The model spits the grades at the end of the year - would have to be modified to show the progress. Quantrix can be used to export the tables to the web very easily using a free bundle. Both, Quantrix and the html export bundle are available on the peak ftp site above. I like this solution for keeping grades better than anything I used before ... Good luck. Rudy.
From: BillLee@cleaf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet on the NeXT Date: 12 Sep 1997 13:49:13 GMT Message-ID: <5vbh8p$54o@news0-alterdial.uu.net> References: <01bcbe25$ff8c8d80$4e0101c0@#nandrico> <5v9fqt$e4t$2@news.rwth-aachen.de> martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) wrote: >In <01bcbe25$ff8c8d80$4e0101c0@#nandrico> "Nathanael Andrico" wrote: >> >> How do I get on the net with my NeXT? I'm new to the NeXT world, about 2 >> weeks. I have a NeXT Color Station 33mhz with 64MB of RAM and a USRobotics >> 33.6 Modem ver 3.3. >> As far as I can tell there is no PPP on my system. >> >> I'm humbly asking for someones help. >> >> Thank you >> >> Nathanael Andrico >> >> nandrico@ix.netcom.com >Hi ! >Well, here's what I did: >I got the latest ppp-package from one of the archives. >Also Gatekeeper, a great App for dialling in and managing ppp. >Then PopOver, a pop-client for getting your mail...and that's IT. >Usually, the information supplied is enough for installing the whole stuff >and running it. >I had no problem. >Once you're online, you can ftp other nice Apps, but the ones I mentioned are >"mas o menos" rudimentary. > >Adios >Martin > This is a real catch-22 that I went through about a year ago: 1. I am not connected to the net. 2. I need a ppp package. 3. I need to "go to an archive" and get one. 4. Return to step 1. I called Walnut Creek CDROM and had them send me the latest NEBULA cdrom for NeXT. (Had to get a cdrom reader...convenient excuse for the wife. :-) Found the ppp package I needed and was able to get on-line. Walnut Creek CDROM 1-800-786-9907 for ordering 1-510-603-1234 for tech support I'm not affiliated with Walnut Creek other than as a satisfied customer. Regards, Bill Lee
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.announce,comp.sys.newton.marketplace,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon,comp.sys.psion,comp.sys.psion.announce,comp.sys.psion.apps,comp.sys.psion.comm,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,comp.sys.psion.programmer,comp.sys.psion.reviews,comp.sys.pyramid,comp.sys.ridge,comp.sys.sequent,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.announce,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.audio,comp.sys.sgi.bugs,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.marketplace,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.stratus,comp.sys.sun.admin Subject: cmsg cancel <34196E66.6C22@profit.com> Control: cancel <34196E66.6C22@profit.com> Date: 12 Sep 1997 16:33:20 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.34196E66.6C22@profit.com> Sender: Jimmy <jimmybob@profit.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bad NS3.3 CD-ROM? Date: 10 Sep 1997 07:06:55 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5v5guf$cuc$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <01bcbd67$b277ad40$7c327118@patmvcr.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca> <5v4uhi$eu4$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > > sd0:Media Error: retrying....... > That's the hard drive, I'd guess. > > Make sure that the ID of the CD is higher than HD. No, since he has an IDE-based system, there are no IDs to set, and "sd0" cannot be the hard disk. It must be the SCSI-emulation for the CD-ROM drive. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet on the NeXT Date: 12 Sep 1997 17:07:38 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vbssq$hha$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <01bcbe25$ff8c8d80$4e0101c0@#nandrico> <5v9fqt$e4t$2@news.rwth-aachen.de> <5vbh8p$54o@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: BillLee@cleaf.com In <5vbh8p$54o@news0-alterdial.uu.net> BillLee@cleaf.com wrote: > This is a real catch-22 that I went through about a year ago: > > 1. I am not connected to the net. How are you reading email and Usenet? > 2. I need a ppp package. > 3. I need to "go to an archive" and get one. > 4. Return to step 1. > > I called Walnut Creek CDROM and had them send me the latest NEBULA cdrom > for NeXT. (Had to get a cdrom reader...convenient excuse for the wife. :-) > Found the ppp package I needed and was able to get on-line. Walnut Creek is a good company, and Nebula is a fine CD-ROM set. However, you can fit the PPP software on one floppy: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ppp/ppp.2.3b3.NIHS.b.tar.gz (size = 902827 bytes) So even if you have a DOS machine you could d/l it to get the software to get yourself hooked up. If you just have email, it uuencodes to 1243938... still enough to fit on a floppy. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@ti.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet on the NeXT Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:20:49 -0500 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Message-ID: <34198801.5DB47D37@ti.com> References: <01bcbe25$ff8c8d80$4e0101c0@#nandrico> <5v9fqt$e4t$2@news.rwth-aachen.de> <5vbh8p$54o@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > This is a real catch-22 that I went through about a year ago: > > 1. I am not connected to the net. > > 2. I need a ppp package. > > 3. I need to "go to an archive" and get one. > > 4. Return to step 1. > > I called Walnut Creek CDROM and had them send me the latest NEBULA cdrom for NeXT. (Had to > get a cdrom reader...convenient excuse for the wife. :-) Found the ppp package I needed > and was able to get on-line. > > Walnut Creek CDROM > 1-800-786-9907 for ordering > 1-510-603-1234 for tech support > > I'm not affiliated with Walnut Creek other than as a satisfied customer. I will be releasing a PPP-2.3 pkg installer fairly soon. I will have both a single package as well as a multi-disk package. This should help those who don't have convenient access from home. Sorry about the hoops. - Steve
From: "Pierre Landa" <planda@laedu.lalc.k12.ca.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Grade keeping programs for NEXTSTEP Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 17:20:32 -0700 Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <5vcmb2$12ls@uni.library.ucla.edu> References: <01bcbebf$effe9080$03ac2ac0@cupertino> >Hello everyone, > > My mother is a 6th grade teacher. She just had the use of her Macintosh >which was on loan from the school system revoked because of budgeting etc. >She had been using a great program, Grade Machine, to keep track of her >students' progress. She needs another computer/software package quickly >because classes have started up again. I want to suggest that she buy a >NeXT because they are so affordable right now but a computer is only as >useful for someone as its software is. > Does anyone know of any good teacher oriented grade keeping programs for >NeXT? It should be able to keep averages and print progress reports, >nothing too fancy. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated I need to get >something set up for her very soon. She is back in the stone ages again >now with a grade book and sliding average scale! > > >Thanks for any suggestions, >Heath Tucker > >ps-I tried Executor w/Grade Machine but it mangles the printing and is too >slow to be useable on an '040-25. I think I need a native NEXTSTEP >solution. > You can create a very simple Grade Book using Improve (spreadsheet) I have been very happy with the results Pierre
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: pppup? Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 20:47:33 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Message-ID: <msg140247.thr-399c96.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <msg140247.thr-399c96.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> Tim Luomat has gotten me this far and I'm embarrassed I can't get the res= t of the way on my own... I am trying to connect to a ppp server (running winnt) with my cube. I ha= ve ppp2.3 and Gatekeeper 2.0, and I am pretty sure I've got most things c= onfigured correctly. Verbose boot reports that ppp is indeed running. Gat= ekeeper dials and the modems connect in the Terminal window--the connect message is: CONNECT 28800/ARQ/LAPM/V42BIS At that point, nothing happens. I never see the spewing of garbage ascii = I expect. I am able, using a Mac and FreePPP to connect to the very same = server using the same account. (USRobotics Courier v.everything modem). My pppup file looks like this (essentially the model with my name and pas= sword): ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" ATZ "OK" CONNECT "" ogin: herren assword: youDontThinkIdReallyPostItDoYou? "" I believe the problem is here. Anyone have any experience with connecting= to a winnt box? -- = David D. Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology voice: (802)443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 fax: (802)443-2053
From: A1cpaf@cris.com (Andy Fenner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Please help with 3.3/Intel install Date: 13 Sep 1997 02:00:46 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Message-ID: <5vcs4e$4gc@examiner.concentric.net> I have an 040 mono slab running 3.3 and I just bought an Intel box. Here are the specs: Pentium 133 Elitegroup p5hx-b motherboard 48MB RAM 2.5GB EIDE Western Digital 16x ATAPI CD-ROM ExpertColor DSV3325 S3 ViRGE video LinkSys Ether16 Combo card Apple MultiScan 15" Here's my problem: I can get the Mach kernal installed fine and reboot the machine to install NeXTStep. After I define my machine parameters (on the graphical setup screen) and hit "OK" the screen goes black and the system locks up. I've tried using the S3 driver and the standard VGA driver with the same results. I guess what I'm asking is what other drivers do I need (if any), why is my screen going black, what should I set the graphics memory address to, and is it worth all this trouble to install this on my Intel box? Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. If you could please respond to the newsgroup and by e-mail, that would be great. Thanks, Andy a1cpaf@concentric.net
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Any JavaScript enabled browsers for NeXTSTEP? Date: 12 Sep 1997 20:14:22 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5vd0ee$ltc@slip.net> Hi, I know that there are no Java enabled browsers but I was hoping we could at least get JavaScript. I tried to get the page below to run the function alertUser to no avail. Thanks, Emmett <HTML> <HEAD> <SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JAVASCRIPT"> function alertUser(alertMsg) { alert(alertMsg) } </SCRIPT> </HEAD> <BODY> <FORM> <INPUT TYPE="button" VALUE="click me" onClick="alertUser('ok ok')"> </FORM> </BODY> </HTML>
From: "Eric R. Balch" <erbalch@adnc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP! Lighthouse apps for NEXTSTEP Date: 13 Sep 1997 04:01:30 GMT Organization: SynapSys Technologies Message-ID: <01bcbff9$ae05aa20$380b9ecf@quasar> References: <01bcbe77$d6d06ae0$9d0b9ecf@quasar> Thanks for the responses... Due to what lighthouse told me I don't know if I should post the sight here. But thanks as always all! Eric Eric R. Balch <erbalch@adnc.com> wrote in article <01bcbe77$d6d06ae0$9d0b9ecf@quasar>... > Greetings all! > > I recall reading some time back that Lighthouse had put all of its "old" > NEXTSTEP apps into the public domain, so to speak. I remember they had > posted license strings for all of them along with the versions they > belonged to. When I follow that link now, I see the list but no license > strings! > > Does anyone know what became of this policy? Did anyone save the list of > license strings? If so, can you _please_ send them to me? I finally > brought my NeXTStation back from the dead and when I went to load it with > these apps... Well you knoww the rest! > > Any help or info anyone can offer would be much appreciated! > > Thank you, > Eric > > PS. Post AND email me direct if you don't mind. >
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pppup? Date: 13 Sep 1997 04:26:26 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vd4li$8b2$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <msg140247.thr-399c96.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu In <msg140247.thr-399c96.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> David Herren wrote: > Tim Luomat has gotten me this far and I'm embarrassed I can't get the rest > of the way on my own... Ok... next time someone posts this I'm changing my username to tluoma ;-) > CONNECT 28800/ARQ/LAPM/V42BIS I think.... You are getting too much verbosity for the chat script below. It assumes you just get `CONNECT' > ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" ATZ > "OK" CONNECT "" ogin: herren assword: youDontThinkIdReallyPostItDoYou? "" Do they have spaces after the colons when they ask for a password? TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: "Steven G. Johnson" <stevenj@alum.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X Server for OpenStep? Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 23:55:37 -0400 Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <5vd2rq$6qt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear OpenStep people, I am a Mac user in science/engineering who is salivating over Rhapsody, and I have been looking at what software is out there for the platform-to-be. I was wondering...what X server apps are there for OpenStep, and are any of them likely to be ported to Rhapsody? Also, what about emacs? (I assume that the tty version works, but is there a windowed, mouse-friendly version?) Mathematica? Maple? Matlab? Cordially, Steven G. Johnson
From: "Richard Kaapke" <bearpaws@aci.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 installation trouble on Intel Date: 13 Sep 1997 07:23:53 GMT Organization: Bear Paws Message-ID: <5vdf29$b2l$0@208.136.114.100> OK, the configuration is basically: Pentium 166MMX, 32mb RAM, 2 IDE drives, one 2.4mb, the other 1.2mb. Adaptec AHA-2940 PCI SCSI SCSI compatible CD-ROM I can get as far as actually booting the CD-ROM partially and starting to prepare for installation, but I get a warning from FDISK twice, about 4 lines that basically says it thinks the BIOS information for a drive is bogus. It offers suggestions on enabling BIOS for the system in question. But which drive is it? It doesn't say... even though earlier it seemed to recognize hard drives and SCSI drives exactly right... sizes and device names were right on. I've attempted to install NS 3.3 on the IDE drives, using EIDE/ATAPI drivers plus the Adaptec. I've tried to install onto a SCSI drive target. In all cases, it actually loads from CD up until FDISK decides it wants to upchuck regarding "bogus" information it got from the BIOS. I have tried setting the BIOS hard disk information to AUTO, to LBA, to NORMAL, and to LARGE. These change the geometry reported for a given IDE drive from something with less than 1024 cylinders to something true to the actual drive geometry (over 1200 cylinders), plus other creative remappings for SCO UNIX and other OSes. I also notice installation will complain about a "ridiculous" date in the clock, apparently not liking dates after 1994. Built-in obsolescence? Anyhow, I'd dearly like to install and try NEXTSTEP 3.3 on my Intel hardware but after 3 SCSI controllers, several drive configurations, and MANY hours of frustration, I'm about to give up on the whole thing. I'm not encouraged to try OPENSTEP 4.2 because I worry it will still balk at installing on a system that Windows 95b and even DOS 6.2 can cope with. At least their FDISK doesn't get dyspeptic. I'm hoping some charitable genius can send a helpful reply via email (my news access is very irregular). mailto:bearpaws@aci.net
From: hsui@geonext.geology.uiuc.edu (Albert T. Hsui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: file recovery Date: 13 Sep 1997 16:17:17 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <5veead$ev2$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I accidentally erased a number of files on my optical disk. I have a Next Cube running on NS 3.3. Can anyone advise me if there is any free utility program that can help me recover those files? Thank you very much, REALLY.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X Server for OpenStep? Date: 13 Sep 1997 16:42:24 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vefpg$12e$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5vd2rq$6qt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stevenj@alum.mit.edu In <5vd2rq$6qt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> "Steven G. Johnson" wrote: > I am a Mac user in science/engineering who is salivating over Rhapsody, and > I have been looking at what software is out there for the platform-to-be. Have you been to http://www.peak.org/next and http://peanuts.leo.org/index-e.html? > I was wondering...what X server apps are there for OpenStep, and are any of > them likely to be ported to Rhapsody? None for OpenStep, there are some for NeXTStep which you can find at PEAK and Peanuts (the two sites mentioned above). If they are not ported to Rhapsody I am sure there will be some X-system for it. > Also, what about emacs? (I assume that the tty version works, but is there > a windowed, mouse-friendly version?) There is both a tty version and a friendlier version http://www.peak.org/pub/next/apps/emacs/ > Mathematica? Maple? Matlab? yes, think so, no but something else I think. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for a Font Date: 13 Sep 1997 18:04:36 GMT Message-ID: <19970913180401.OAA18608@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <3418363D.782B@vcd.hp.com> SnewsLanguage: English Paul Renner's Futura is pretty close to basic stick printing. Commercial font, available from any major foundry. Convert the PC or Mac version with Frank Siegert's FontConvert. Sassoon Primary is much nicer IMHO, and nicely backed up by Rosemary Sassoon's book on kids creating letterforms. I'd really suggest getting chisel edged pens though, and teaching the kids Chancery cursive from the onset. Lots of good books on this, and R. Slimbach's Poetica is gorgeous. This is available from Adobe and their licensees. William -- William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu (Y. MOK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where to buy 4.2 Date: 14 Sep 1997 00:33:01 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vfbbt$quh@news.service.uci.edu> Would someone tell me where to buy 4.2 for Mach (Academic) ? ---------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: I don't even speak for myself, what makes you think I speak for anyone else. ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu Department of Physics University of California, Irvine
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to buy 4.2 Date: 14 Sep 1997 01:49:38 GMT Organization: none Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vffri$12e$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5vfbbt$quh@news.service.uci.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu In <5vfbbt$quh@news.service.uci.edu> Y. MOK wrote: > > Would someone tell me where to buy 4.2 for Mach (Academic) ? Call 1-800-try-next Actually, there's someone else for academic, but they can tell you at that number... TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pppup Date: 13 Sep 1997 19:13:16 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5vfh7s$m41@slip.net> > >I am trying to connect to a ppp server (running winnt) with my cube. I ha= >ve ppp2.3 and Gatekeeper 2.0, and I am pretty sure I've got most things c= >onfigured correctly. Verbose boot reports that ppp is indeed running. Gat= >ekeeper dials and the modems connect >in the Terminal window--the connect message is: I've found the best way to see if I'm up is to run "/usr/etc/nslookup". Also, my ISP seems to be sensitive to which baud rates will attach with a ppp connection. 28800 is a winner at slip.net. And finally, this is *really* and aside, if you're using an X2 don't make the mistake of configuring it under ProComm to get connection string settings, it reconfigures your modem so it won't work with a NeXT :-( In my case : 1 /me>su Password: tiger:1# nslookup Default Server: ns.slip.net Address: 207.171.208.10 Here is my pppup : exec /usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 mtu 296 lcp-echo-interval 15 \ lcp-echo-failure 3 debug crtscts kdebug 17 defaultroute modem -pap -chap \ connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO DIAL TONE" ABORT " ERROR" "" ATZ0 "OK" ATDT3565828 CONNECT "" ogin: emclean assword: yourpasswd' \ /dev/cufa 28800 lock Here is the same thing using ppp-on. I wished someone would use ppp-on to correctly implement the attach dialer, ppp-dialer-on. #!/bin/sh # # Script to initiate a ppp connection. This is the first part of the # pair of scripts. This is not a secure pair of scripts as the codes # are visible with the 'ps' command. However, it is simple. # # These are the parameters. Change as needed. TELEPHONE=3565828 # The telephone number for the connection ACCOUNT=emclean # The account name for logon (as in 'George Burns') PASSWORD=yourpasswd # The password for this account (and 'Gracie Allen') LOCAL_IP=207.171.204.217 # Local IP address if known. Dynamic = 0.0.0.0 REMOTE_IP=0.0.0.0 # Remote IP address if desired. Normally 0.0.0.0 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 # The proper netmask if needed # # Export them so that they will be available at 'ppp-on-dialer' time. export TELEPHONE ACCOUNT PASSWORD # # This is the location of the script which dials the phone and logs # in. Please use the absolute file name as the $PATH variable is not # used on the connect option. (To do so on a 'root' account would be # a security hole so don't ask.) # DIALER_SCRIPT=/usr/local/bin # # Initiate the connection # # I put most of the common options on this command. Please, don't # forget the 'lock' option or some programs such as mgetty will not # work. The asyncmap and escape will permit the PPP link to work with # a telnet or rlogin connection. You are welcome to make any changes # as desired. Don't use the 'defaultroute' option if you currently # have a default route to an ethernet gateway. # exec /usr/local/bin/pppd modem crtscts /dev/cufa 28800 \ $LOCAL_IP:$REMOTE_IP \ defaultroute connect $DIALER_SCRIPT
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X Server for OpenStep? Date: 13 Sep 1997 19:21:32 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5vfhnc$me1@slip.net> References: <5vd2rq$6qt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Steven G. Johnson <stevenj@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > >I am a Mac user in science/engineering who is salivating over Rhapsody, and >I have been looking at what software is out there for the platform-to-be. > Glad to hear it. >I was wondering...what X server apps are there for OpenStep, and are any of >them likely to be ported to Rhapsody? Got me on the specifics of just where to visit. There are both commercial versions, Cub-X and Co-Xist, and a public domain version. >Also, what about emacs? (I assume that the tty version works, but is there >a windowed, mouse-friendly version?) > Emacs comes with OpenStep or NeXTSTEP. >Mathematica? Maple? Matlab? Mathematica 3.0 is available for NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP. Your best bet is to get a used copy of NS from c.s.n.m and upgrade to 3.0. Emmett
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <8835873604833@digifix.com> Date: 14 Sep 1997 03:49:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <9488874209621@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: minor software announcement / fiddlepass has a new life Date: 14 Sep 1997 04:15:52 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vfodo$12e$8@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's such a small little thing that an announcement isn't worth it. I just wrote this for someone who wanted to use the ``me'' account's functionality. Now that I know about niutil, I've made it a lot better. The script can be found here: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/defaultuser.sh note: if you download it from a DOS machine, the EOL will get mucked up, so you might want to get the compressed version: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/defaultuser.sh.gz Here's the explanation of what it does. It's basically a new version of ``fiddlepass'' if you remember that... except I never liked that name, so I changed it for this version. Date: 13 Sept 1997 Author: TjL <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> Version: 2.0 (previously released as `fiddlepass' Tired of having to login everytime you reboot? Ever wish your NeXT would just boot right into your own account (or some account)? Well, if so, this script is for you. You may be familiar with the ``me'' account. When you first install NeXTStep or OpenStep, it will boot into the ``me'' account. That's fine if you never connect to the 'net or a LAN where having an account with no password is a very bad thing. This script, however, uses a little-known dwrite called the ``DefaultUser'' in root's preferences for ``loginwindow''. Assume that your username is ``myaccount''. Login as root, launch Terminal.app and enter: dwrite loginwindow DefaultUser myaccount You can then use this script. It is very simple. When you want to remove the password for the DefaultUser account, you simply enter: defaultuser.sh removepass You must do this as root, of course. To bring the password back, use defaultuser.sh restorepass To make it even simpler, I might try something like this in /etc/rc.local: if [ -x /usr/local/bin/defaultuser.sh ]; then /usr/local/bin/defaultuser.sh removepass (sleep 60 && /usr/local/bin/defaultuser.sh restorepass) & fi Note: this assumes you have put this script at /usr/local/bin/defaultuser.sh, of course! That will remove the password, wait 60 seconds, and then restore the password. That should be plenty of time to complete the boot action and have the DefaultUser get logged in. However, you might want to make it less time since this account will be open during that interval. WARNING: this script removes a password from a user account on your machine, and it mucks with NetInfo. If that isn't enough for you to treat it with a lot of care, then you're very foolish. Be careful. I can't be held responsible for what it does to you or your system. NOTE: Don't use ``root'' as the DefaultUser.... it's just a bad idea. You don't ever want root to not have a password, even for just a few minutes. Remember, if someone comes in and reboots the machine, they will be able to get into the DefaultUser account. Convenience comes with a price. -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet on the NeXT Message-ID: <8DF924B.09B8000695.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 97 09:47:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 On 09/14/97, TIMOTHY J LUOMA wrote to BillLee@cleaf.com: > 1. I am not connected to the net. TL> How are you reading email and Usenet? There are tens of thousands of people who have internet/usenet/email access but not _web_ access. Salut! -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: minor software announcement / fiddlepass has a new life Date: 14 Sep 1997 16:00:37 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vh1n5$cv5$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5vfodo$12e$8@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The 2.0 version used a part of `niutil' that was only found in OpenStep, not NeXTStep. The 2.1 version is NeXTStep compatible, but otherwise unchanged. (thanks to Markus Gloede for fix). The script can be found here: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/defaultuser.sh note: if you download it from a DOS machine, the EOL will get mucked up, so you might want to get the compressed version: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/defaultuser.sh.gz TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet on the NeXT Date: 14 Sep 1997 16:49:03 GMT Organization: none Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vh4hv$cv5$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <8DF924B.09B8000695.uuout@moondog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com In <8DF924B.09B8000695.uuout@moondog.com> SHEPPARD GORDON wrote: > On 09/14/97, TIMOTHY J LUOMA wrote to BillLee@cleaf.com: > > > 1. I am not connected to the net. > > TL> How are you reading email and Usenet? > > There are tens of thousands of people who have internet/usenet/email access > but not _web_ access. I am aware of that.... but see, when someone says ``not connected to the 'net'' I think of my parents, who have heard of the Internet but have never seen or sent email, don't have any idea how to do so, and couldn't if they wanted to. That's ``not connected''. Just having email and usenet is not ``not connected''. (we tend to forget there are people who really aren't connected). My point was that if you have email/Usenet access, you can get the PPP software. Hell I could uuencode it and it would still fit on one floppy (and I mean the quadfat version). As someone with little money to spend on my computer, I'm averse to spending $65 for a CD collection for software that I could fit on a floppy. I like Nebula a lot. It's a great collection. But if there is someone out there with just email/usenet access but no ftp/http access who is thinking ``Gee I'd like to get PPP hooked up on my system but I don't have $65 to spend on a CD'' I don't want them to think they're up a crick without a stick. Worst-case scenario I can mail you a floppy with the software on it. I hope that makes what I was trying to say more clear. There are a lot of good reasons to buy the CD-ROM collections that are out there.... I think I have them all, and each of them has something that the others don't. But they aren't the only way to go for this situation. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
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From: "Eric R. Balch" <erbalch@adnc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Lighthouse response on "Free Apps" Date: 14 Sep 1997 22:33:13 GMT Organization: SynapSys Technologies Message-ID: <01bcc15e$18375fa0$190d9ecf@quasar> Hello all! I have had several questions mailed to me about the somewhat ominus followup post I made to my original question as to the whereabouts of the Lighthouse App license strings. Sorry if I paniced or upset anyone. I should have just posted the mails in the first place ;-) So, here ya go... My take on the response is that for legal reasons Lighthouse cannot give out the licenses but others apearently can. I am cool with that ;-) Thanks for all your help to those that responded! Eric MY QUESTION TO LIGHTHOUSE: From: "Eric R. Balch" <erbalch@adnc.com> To: <info@lighthouse.com> Subject: Free Licenses? Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:18:57 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Greetings! I am a private NEXTSTEP 3.3 user running a NeXTStation Turbo Color. I recall reading on a news group a couple of months ago that you guys were making the current NEXTSTEP Mach (3.3 and under) versions of all of your apps free for the asking. I had seen a table on one of your web pages with all of the license strings paired with the apps and versions they worked for. Is this "offer" still available, or as it a limited time sort of thing? Any help and/or info you could provide to me would be much appreciated! Sincerely, Eric R. Balch LIGHTHOUSE RESPONSE: Hi Eric, Regretably, due to a conflict with an international distributor, we have had to recind this license offer. You might check with a friend, or out on one of the public archive sites and get the licenses from there. I would caution that you should not distribute license strings with anyone in the Asian countries. The latest/last version of all Lighthouse Design products is still available from our web site: [An attachment was originally included here]http://www.lighthouse.com/GlobalSupport.html and click the Download Legacy Apps button. Regards, Technical Support Begin forwarded message:
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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <341b1b13.0@news.west-tech.com> Control: cancel <341b1b13.0@news.west-tech.com> Date: 14 Sep 1997 22:53:08 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.341b1b13.0@news.west-tech.com> Sender: info@pgrs.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: BillLee@cleaf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet on the NeXT Date: 15 Sep 1997 12:49:27 GMT Message-ID: <5vjasn$ohh@news0-alterdial.uu.net> References: <8DF924B.09B8000695.uuout@moondog.com> <5vh4hv$cv5$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: >In <8DF924B.09B8000695.uuout@moondog.com> SHEPPARD GORDON wrote: >> On 09/14/97, TIMOTHY J LUOMA wrote to BillLee@cleaf.com: >> >> > 1. I am not connected to the net. >> >> TL> How are you reading email and Usenet? >> >> There are tens of thousands of people who have internet/usenet/email access >> but not _web_ access. > >I am aware of that.... but see, when someone says ``not connected to the >'net'' I think of my parents, who have heard of the Internet but have never >seen or sent email, don't have any idea how to do so, and couldn't if they >wanted to. That's ``not connected''. Just having email and usenet is not >``not connected''. (we tend to forget there are people who really aren't >connected). TjL and I have had a private e-mail exchange on this, but just for everyone's edification: In my post I said "not connected". And I meant just exactly that. I had recently moved to a new, rural, home, and had a new ISP which required ppp. I had previously been served only by a uucp connection which gave me e-mail and news. I needed ppp to even hook up to the ISP, and had no way other than the means I described in my note to get back on-line. Regards, Bill Lee
From: mschwett@estec.esa.nl (Schwetterle Marc) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OPENSTEP 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 Date: 15 Sep 1997 13:03:06 GMT Organization: . Message-ID: <5vjbma$q7j@bcalpha.estec.esa.nl> In article <5v82it$gut@mochi.lava.net>, arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - replace "DOT") says: > >4.0 - Lots of bugs, very slow >4.1 - Bugs, slow >4.2 - Fewer bugs, less slow > Is there any benchmark results (e.g. NXBench) comparing the speed ? M.S.
From: MARMIER Raphael <marmier4@hei.unige.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP FDISK disaster!!!!!!!!!! Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:35:18 +0200 Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970915153258.17593A-100000@hei.unige.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Patrick McGowan <patmvcr@rogers.wave.ca> Hi > Are these partitions lost forever? Is there any way to recover them? I had > backed up most of the files a few weeks ago, but a few important files were > not. I have not reformatted those sectors of the drive or done anything > else since......except look at them in Partition Magic, an interactive > partitioning application in DOS. Can I use something from Norton Disk > Doctor to find the beginning of my old partitions?...I had a lot af spare > space between the original "free" space and my important DOD > partitions...it was set aside as swap space for Windows 95. > > HELP!!!!! If you can find a way to know the begin and end address of your extended partition, you can update the partition table with Norton Disk editor (be carefull with this tool!). This should work as I suppose only the partition table is damaged. Unfortunatly, I don't know the exact syntax... remember it is a Dos extended partition. If there was more damage (ex: to the file system), I think you may be able to repair it with a disk utility after you recover the partition. But before doing so, make absolutely sure you have the right coordinates for your partition! , unless you want to trash it for good :)) good luck cheers PS: This post rather belongs to comp.sys.next.sysadmin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Raphael Marmier --> marmier4@hei.unige.ch --> http://heiwww.unige.ch/~marmier4 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to buy 4.2 Date: 15 Sep 97 10:06:57 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <B042B954-375369@141.214.128.36> References: <5vfbbt$quh@news.service.uci.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Y. MOK" <ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu> On Sat, Sep 13, 1997 8:33 PM, Y. MOK <mailto:ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu> wrote: >Would someone tell me where to buy 4.2 for Mach (Academic) ? Try your student bookstore. If they don't know what you're talking about tell them to look it up in NACSCORP (I think that's the right acronym). rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> <http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #6: "You are the most beautiful woman I have ever seen, with the possible exception of Charles Durning." -Chris Elliott
From: Joe Leherbauer <joe@TakeFive.co.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HylaFAX port to Nextstep ? Date: 15 Sep 1997 17:27:38 GMT Organization: TakeFive Software http://www.TakeFive.com/ Message-ID: <5vjr6a$nds$1@news.Austria.EU.net> Is there a Nextstep port of HylaFAX ? --- Josef Leherbauer Phone: +43 662 457 915 51 TakeFive Software GmbH Fax: -"- 6 Jakob-Haringer-Str. 8 WWW: http://www.TakeFive.com/ A-5020 Salzburg, Austria Email: joe@TakeFive.co.at (NeXT|MIME)mail okay
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: reading TIFF files into Mathematica? Date: 15 Sep 1997 19:44:29 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5vk36t$rtc$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Has anyone got a package to read a TIFF file into Mathematica? I downloaded ReadTIFFpackage off MathSource, however it requires something called FastBinaryFiles, which (of course) is only available in its pre-compiled form for Mac and Windows and the source doesn't compile correctly under NEXTSTEP! I _really_ don't want to try and port FastBinaryFiles to NEXTSTEP so I'm hoping someone else has done all this before. Also, I read something about one Jeffrey Adams (jeff@tiag.com) who wrote a better Mathematica TIFF reader specifically for NEXTSTEP, but it appears nowhere in MathSource. Anyone heard of this/him? Thanks in advance, - Gareth (Please reply directly via email too if you followup - I'll get it a lot faster that way). --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: ahoesch@on-luebeck.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Archiver for OpenStep 4.2 Mach Date: 9 Sep 1997 15:15:10 GMT Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V. Message-ID: <5v3p5u$33f@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de> Hello, I'm looking for an archiver. I would like to drag a file or a complete folder over an Icon, like it should go with Opener.app to let it be compressed. Unfortunately the compress-feature of Opener.app (V 3.3) does not work on OpenStep(as far as I know). Has Opener.app already been ported to OpenStep or is there another nice archiver available? Thanks in advance! Andreas Hoeschler
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970916.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970909.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970902.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 Sep 1997 00:00:00 +0100 Organization: Private System, London SW19, UK Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Sep-02 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-Sep-15 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets can be found on the Internet: <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: stevem@telexiscorp.com (Stephen MacDougall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Archiver for OpenStep 4.2 Mach Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 23:48:21 GMT Organization: Telexis Corporation Message-ID: <341ec89f.7186703@news.synapse.net> References: <5v3p5u$33f@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 9 Sep 1997 15:15:10 GMT, ahoesch@on-luebeck.de wrote: >Hello, > >I'm looking for an archiver. I would like to drag a file or a complete folder >over an Icon, like it should go with Opener.app to let it be compressed. > >Unfortunately the compress-feature of Opener.app (V 3.3) does not work on >OpenStep(as far as I know). > >Has Opener.app already been ported to OpenStep or is there another nice >archiver available? > >Thanks in advance! > >Andreas Hoeschler Opener.app V3.3 works fine in OPENSTEP 4.0 and 4.2 for sure. I don't know about 4.1, as I skipped that version. I use it extensively to both compress and decompress files and folders. You just have to make sure that the app is launched and running before dragging the file that you want to archive over the icon. Good luck. ------------------------------------------------------- Stephen MacDougall Senior Software Designer Telexis Corporation A Newbridge Networks Affiliate E-Mail: stevem@telexiscorp.com Phone : (613) 738-2434 extension 369 Fax : (613) 738-0750 ------------------------------------------------------- #include <standard_disclaimer.h> -------------------------------------------------------
From: Liren Chen <lchen+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Personal Agent for WWW browsing and searching Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 19:44:43 -0400 Organization: Doctoral student, Language Technology Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <so7QVf_00WB34mjX8Z@andrew.cmu.edu> Go to http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~softagents/webmate x xTry our WebMate: A Personal Agent for WWW browsing and searching. x xYou can have your own agent.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Archiver for OpenStep 4.2 Mach Date: 16 Sep 1997 03:53:58 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vkvsm$cku$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5v3p5u$33f@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de> <341ec89f.7186703@news.synapse.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 9 Sep 1997 15:15:10 GMT, ahoesch@on-luebeck.de wrote: >Hello, > >I'm looking for an archiver. I would like to drag a file or a complete folder >over an Icon, like it should go with Opener.app to let it be compressed. > >Unfortunately the compress-feature of Opener.app (V 3.3) does not work on >OpenStep(as far as I know). It works dandy on OpenStep 4.1. Command-drag the file you want to compress onto the (running) app icon. This will not work if Opener.app is on a Field Dock (at least, I couldn't) but it will work if it is on the regular dock IF the dock is not on top of all the other windows (which you can toggle with alt-click on the NeXT icon) TjL Note: from Sept 14th through Sept 27th I will be working on ordination exams (like the bar exams, except for ministry). Please understand if my replies are short, slow, or (worst case) none at all. I will try to keep up, but get about 400 emails/day. -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X Server for OpenStep? Date: 16 Sep 1997 08:24:51 GMT Organization: Delft University of Technology Message-ID: <5vlfoj$mmk$1@news.tudelft.nl> References: <5vd2rq$6qt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> "Steven G. Johnson" <stevenj@alum.mit.edu> writes > Dear OpenStep people, > > I was wondering...what X server apps are there for OpenStep, and are any of > them likely to be ported to Rhapsody? > Hi Steven, There were at least two X servers available for Nextstep. I was a beta tester of one of them: CubXWindow. It turned out to be a very good one. Intuitive systems, the producer of this X server, told me that they will definitely release CubXWindow for Rhapsody. Abraham. _____________________________________________________________________ Abraham Guyt P.O.Box 356 Department of Information Systems 2600 AJ Delft Faculty Information Technology & Systems The Netherlands Delft University of Technology tel: +31 15 278 5969 E-mail: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl NeXT-mail welcome
From: Emmanuel Sciara <sciara@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.misc.next.misc Subject: prelude to Rhapsody on Sparc?!?! Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:10:27 +0000 Organization: Schlumberger Geco-Prakla Message-ID: <341E6923.2781E494@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Have I correctely understood??? Prelude to Rhapsody is available on Sun Sparc!!!??? How comes? Will Rhapsody be available on Sparc? How can I get Prelude to Rhapsody? E. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Emmanuel SCIARA Schlumberger Geco-Prakla Tel: (44)-(0)1293-55-6827 DAPD Field Processing Fax: (44)-(0)1293-55-6066 Schlumberger House Email: sciara@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com Gatwick Airport West Sussex RH6 0NZ, UK +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: "nala" <tlk684@modgnik.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.nsc,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.os2,comp.sys.pal Subject: RE: Listen and you will smile... Date: 16 Sep 1997 07:40:22 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <01bcbec3$15d7dde0$b9bf39cc@default> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lonely? Need to hear a soft, smiling voice? 1-900-255-0900, Ext 4096 $3.99 per min. Must be 18y. Serv-U (619) 645-8434 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5vm51a$1o9$183@news.netlabs.net> Control: cancel <5vm51a$1o9$183@news.netlabs.net> Date: 16 Sep 1997 14:36:40 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5vm51a$1o9$183@news.netlabs.net> Sender: info@hotboxx.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: perkins@netmass.com. (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Web tools comparable to NetObjects Fusion Date: 16 Sep 1997 16:00:51 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments Message-ID: <5vmafj$egj$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> I haven't been following the NeXT WWW development market recently. Does anybody know if there are Web building tools available that are similar to NetObjects Fusion? I'm not looking for an HTML tagging application (I have OpenWrite). What I'm looking for is a comprehensive tool that allows dragging and placing of all items such that they will be rendered via sophisticated frames, full site development, and preferably a "stage" and "publish" feature similar to Fusion. Thoughts? TIA, Steve -- --- Stephen J. Perkins NetMass Communications, e-mail: perkins@netmass.com NeXT PPP-2.3 info at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: planetary <kris@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Web tools comparable to NetObjects Fusion Date: 16 Sep 1997 12:10:13 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5vmi25$mbh$1@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5vmafj$egj$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> Stephen J. Perkins <perkins@netmass.com.> wrote: : I haven't been following the NeXT WWW development market recently. : Does anybody know if there are Web building tools available that are : similar to NetObjects Fusion? I'm not looking for an HTML tagging : application (I have OpenWrite). What I'm looking for is a : comprehensive tool that allows dragging and placing of all items such : that they will be rendered via sophisticated frames, full site : development, and preferably a "stage" and "publish" feature similar to : Fusion. I watch this market space closely. There are no comprehensive tools akin to Fusion / FrontPage / SiteMill for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. I hope NetObjects will port to Rhapsody. I'll buy a license for an Intel version. ...............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you know so much about Usenet, then why are you still posting?
From: Alex King <king@cube.phy.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: gcc/g77 on OpenStep 4.2 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 13:35:24 -0500 Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970916132851.13911A-100000@cube.phy.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I (read "my thesis advisor") would like a FORTRAN compiler under OpenStep 4.2 for Mach (running on an old 040 cube). I had hoped to install g77 but that requires installation of gcc. Unfortunately, gcc seems to not want to compile. Anyone else tried this setup? Thanks. bak ------------------------------------------------------------------------- |*******************************|***************************************| |B. Alex King III |University of Illinois at Chicago | |email: aking@uic.edu |Department of Physics | |*******************************|***************************************| -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Web tools comparable to NetObjects Fusion Date: 16 Sep 1997 19:19:48 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5vmm4k$klf$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5vmafj$egj$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> <5vmi25$mbh$1@xmission.xmission.com> In-Reply-To: <5vmi25$mbh$1@xmission.xmission.com> On 09/16/97, planetary wrote: >Stephen J. Perkins <perkins@netmass.com.> wrote: > >: I haven't been following the NeXT WWW development market recently. >: Does anybody know if there are Web building tools available that are >: similar to NetObjects Fusion? I'm not looking for an HTML tagging >: application (I have OpenWrite). What I'm looking for is a >: comprehensive tool that allows dragging and placing of all items such >: that they will be rendered via sophisticated frames, full site >: development, and preferably a "stage" and "publish" feature similar to >: Fusion. > >I watch this market space closely. There are no comprehensive tools >akin to Fusion / FrontPage / SiteMill for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. > >I hope NetObjects will port to Rhapsody. I'll buy a license for an Intel >version. > Actually, Go-Live Cyberstudio looks very nice, and already support WebObjects and such on the Mac. If you Blue Box it, you could run it very soon. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: emacs problem Date: 16 Sep 1997 22:09:43 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <5vn037$1te$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Summary: how to get out of emacs on the NeXT Keywords: emacs exit We are having trouble with emacs on the NeXT (NS 3.2, black). The sequence ^X^C should cause exit, but it doesn't. Does anyone know how to fix this? Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: Joe Reiss <jreiss@sprynet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: emacs problem Date: 16 Sep 1997 20:54:40 -0400 Organization: My own private I-Don't-Know Message-ID: <wkyb4woj3j.fsf@sprynet.com> References: <5vn037$1te$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> beaucham@news.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) writes: >We are having trouble with emacs on the NeXT (NS 3.2, black). The sequence >^X^C should cause exit, but it doesn't. Does anyone know how to fix this? You could try putting the following in ~/.emacs (global-set-key "\C-x\C-c" 'save-buffers-kill-emacs) Now why it isn't bound that way in the first place, I don't know. It should be. But that *should* fix your problem. Unless there's something significantly more insidious going on here. Joe -- | NeXTMail OK! | Lucky I'm sane after all I've been through. | | ________ | I can't complain, but some times I still do. | | | |__) | ======================================================== | | (_|OE| \EISS | - Joe Walsh, "Life's Been Good" |
From: emarshal@osf1.gmu.edu (ERIC R. MARSHALL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for precompiled guavac and kaffe Date: 17 Sep 1997 02:52:06 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <5vngkm$41n@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Specifically, for Intel platforms and NS 3.3. Thanks in advance. Eric Marshall EMI Software Engineering
From: grund63303@aol.com (Grund63303) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 040 slab with StyleWriter 1200? Date: 17 Sep 1997 03:37:23 GMT Message-ID: <19970917033701.XAA03894@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com SnewsLanguage: English Does anyone know of a driver to link a slab and a SW 1200? Thanks, Paul
From: Sub- <gansen@arthur.avalon.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Mac Internet Gateways and NeXT config Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 23:11:45 -0500 Organization: Avalon Networks Inc. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.970916230914.4317A-100000@arthur.avalon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK, I am trying to get my NeXT an IP address using Vicom INet Gateway on my Mac running PPP and an ethernet connection to the NeXT. Has anyone used Vicom INet Gateway successfully with a NeXT? I can get the Mac to dial and set up PPP (which is actually not even that stable under Vicom's software), but I can't get the NeXT to find it over the network to get an address. I suspect that if it is possible, the problem is with my configs both on the NeXT and in Gateway. So, I am wondering if anyone out there has already pulled it off and can shed some light on this for me. --Chris _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Gansen gansen@avalon.net http://www.avalon.net/~gansen
From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Web tools comparable to NetObjects Fusion Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 01:06:00 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970917005410.26246A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <5vmafj$egj$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@netmass.com.> In-Reply-To: <5vmafj$egj$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> On 16 Sep 1997, Stephen J. Perkins wrote: > > I haven't been following the NeXT WWW development market recently. > Does anybody know if there are Web building tools available that are > similar to NetObjects Fusion? I'm not looking for an HTML tagging > application (I have OpenWrite). What I'm looking for is a > comprehensive tool that allows dragging and placing of all items such > that they will be rendered via sophisticated frames, full site > development, and preferably a "stage" and "publish" feature similar to > Fusion. > > Thoughts? > Howdy Steve, I kinda like LatinByrd which is a pretty good rtf -> Html converter. It also takes care of links to other rtf documents and embedded documents. Converts images and select an appropriate format (based on number of colors, transparency and on the resulting size). Also has a neato table inspector (beta only). Pretty cool I'd say. If you cannot find it on the peak ftp site, let me know. I'll dig up more exact info. Good luck. Rudy. blazek@stt.msu.edu
From: "Type in your real name here" <username@itis.com (please Replace)> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Cheap/free old versions of nextstep for intel Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 00:43:34 -0500 Organization: ElectricBasement Message-ID: <5vnq29$k03$1@bill.itis.com> References: <01bcbebf$effe9080$03ac2ac0@cupertino> <Pine.SOL.3.96.970912022903.13061A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> I would like to start preparing for Rhapsody by playing around with an older version of NeXTstep. I have a Pentium 133 with 32 mb and big hard drive with lots of extra room. I would like to use an older version of System Commander so boot between Win95 and Nextstep. Am I just dreaming? Any ideas? E-mail responses appreciated at gregory@itis.com Thanks Greg Rosenberg
From: victor@vail.net (Victor Brilon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Mac Internet Gateways and NeXT config Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 01:34:34 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies, Inc.; ISP Message-ID: <victor-1709970134340001@ppp-hg2-48.dllstx.onramp.net> References: <Pine.HPP.3.96.970916230914.4317A-100000@arthur.avalon.net> Hi Chris, I have that exact setup running. The trick was making two interfaces on the Vicom software. One for the PPP and one for a fake internal address ( I used 192.168.10.1) for the Ethernet address. Then I made the NeXT box be 192.168.10.2, and manually set the routes to route everything through the .1 address. Got it up and running in about 10 minutes. Feel free to email me for more details. Victor In article <Pine.HPP.3.96.970916230914.4317A-100000@arthur.avalon.net>, Sub- <gansen@arthur.avalon.net> wrote: >OK, I am trying to get my NeXT an IP address using Vicom INet Gateway on >my Mac running PPP and an ethernet connection to the NeXT. Has anyone used >Vicom INet Gateway successfully with a NeXT? > >I can get the Mac to dial and set up PPP (which is actually not even that >stable under Vicom's software), but I can't get the NeXT to find it over >the network to get an address. I suspect that if it is possible, the >problem is with my configs both on the NeXT and in Gateway. So, I am >wondering if anyone out there has already pulled it off and can shed some >light on this for me. > >--Chris >_____________________________________________________________________________ >Chris Gansen gansen@avalon.net >http://www.avalon.net/~gansen
From: Stefan Ried <nospam@ried_at_mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X Server for OpenStep? Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:13:47 +0200 Organization: Max Plank Institut for Polymer Research Message-ID: <341CFC4B.2781@ried_at_mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5vd2rq$6qt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <5vfhnc$me1@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Emmett McLean wrote: > > Steven G. Johnson <stevenj@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > >Also, what about emacs? (I assume that the tty version works, but is there > >a windowed, mouse-friendly version?) > > > Emacs comes with OpenStep or NeXTSTEP. This is a version of emacs with much better gui support than the one coming with opnstep: ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/editor/Emacs_for_NeXTstep.4.1.README _____________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G.\ |E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME/NeXT welcome) | |Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 __/___/ | |Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| |WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried \_/ \_/| | There are only three types of computer users: | | Those that use NeXTs. Those that wished they used NeXTs. | | Those that don't know what they are missing. | \_____________________________________________________________________/
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet on the NeXT Message-ID: <8DFB57E.09B80006A4.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 97 23:26:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 On 09/14/97, TIMOTHY J LUOMA wrote: > There are tens of thousands of people who have > internet/usenet/email access but not _web_ access. TL> I am aware of that.... but see, when someone says ``not TL> connected to the 'net'' I think of my parents, who have heard TL> of the Internet but have never seen or sent email, don't have TL> any idea how to do so, and couldn't if they wanted to. TL> That's ``not connected''. Just having email and usenet is TL> not ``not connected''. (we tend to forget there are people TL> who really aren't connected). TL> My point was that if you have email/Usenet access, you can TL> get the PPP software. As I noted in email, that is not necessarily the case. There are numerous ways to have email access bit not PPP access. Juno, for example, which provides free internet email service but nothing else. And there are many, many PC-based BBSes that provide email but NOT web access of any kind. Salut! -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is.
From: stone bridget <bstone1@gl.umbc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: UMBC Information Technology Software Programmer Conference Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:15:20 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970917091441.1655K-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Information Technology Software Programmer Conference October 24 and 25, 1997, UMBC Campus BALTIMORE, MD -- As part of Tech Month 97, UMBC Continuing Education, the GBC Technology Council, and CITEC (Citizens Information Technology Education Corporation) are sponsoring The First Annual Information Technology Software Programmer Conference, October 24 and 25 on the UMBC campus. Conference topics range from Project Management for the Software Programmer and IT Professional to Creating Applications for Electronic Commerce on the Internet and Developing Games and Other Interactive Tools for Consumers. The conference is designed for professionals in the software industrymarketing professionals in information technology, recent university graduates who want to sharpen their skills and explore career possibilities, and those who are looking for new opportunities and challenges. Participants at the conference will have a chance to talk with representatives from Trusted Information Systems, Firaxis Games and other leading Maryland software developers and providers. Workshops will be offered to help build marketable skills. Expert speakers will discuss industry trends, and there will be an opportunity to network with business leaders, company representatives, and peers. Keynote speaker is Jeff Briggs, President and CEO of Firaxis Games. Briggs also has been Director of Product Development at MicroProse Software, where he helped to make the companys line of stategy games and Sid Meier Games the two most successful product lines ever produced by the company. He has also created such popular titles as F-117A Stealth Fighter and Knights of the Sky. For a brochure and more information, or to register, call (410) 455-2336 or email bstone1@umbc.edu.
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From: donovanp@NOSPAM.hotmail.com (Donovan Preston) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Mac Internet Gateways and NeXT config Date: 17 Sep 1997 17:21:21 GMT Organization: BHA Message-ID: <donovanp-1709971327400001@pm074-27.dialip.mich.net> References: <Pine.HPP.3.96.970916230914.4317A-100000@arthur.avalon.net> In article <Pine.HPP.3.96.970916230914.4317A-100000@arthur.avalon.net>, Sub- <gansen@arthur.avalon.net> wrote: > OK, I am trying to get my NeXT an IP address using Vicom INet Gateway on > my Mac running PPP and an ethernet connection to the NeXT. Has anyone used > Vicom INet Gateway successfully with a NeXT? > > I can get the Mac to dial and set up PPP (which is actually not even that > stable under Vicom's software), but I can't get the NeXT to find it over > the network to get an address. I suspect that if it is possible, the > problem is with my configs both on the NeXT and in Gateway. So, I am > wondering if anyone out there has already pulled it off and can shed some > light on this for me. On the NeXT machine, set the Gateway address to the private IP assigned to the ethernet address in Vicom on the mac (if you used easy setup, it's probably 192.167.1.100 off the top of my head), the IP address of the next box to something in that subnet (192.167.1.1 is good), the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, and the domain name servers as usual. Any more problems, email me. VIG is quite nice, I've used it in PPP dialup applications as well as ethernet to ethernet type applications. While I'm talking about it, might as well ask if anyone knows for sure if VIG is capable of routing appletalk packets? Not tcp encapsulated in appletalk, appletalk packets. I've had several people tell me this is possible but I am unable to get it to work.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet on the NeXT Date: 17 Sep 1997 19:50:26 GMT Organization: none Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vpca2$i3h$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <8DF924B.09B8000695.uuout@moondog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com Previously sheppard.gordon@moondog.com wrote: > On 09/14/97, TIMOTHY J LUOMA wrote: > > > There are tens of thousands of people who have > > internet/usenet/email access but not _web_ access. > > TL> I am aware of that.... but see, when someone says ``not > TL> connected to the 'net'' I think of my parents, who have heard > TL> of the Internet but have never seen or sent email, don't have > TL> any idea how to do so, and couldn't if they wanted to. > TL> That's ``not connected''. Just having email and usenet is > TL> not ``not connected''. (we tend to forget there are people > TL> who really aren't connected). > > TL> My point was that if you have email/Usenet access, you can > TL> get the PPP software. > > As I noted in email, that is not necessarily the case. There are numerous > ways to have email access bit not PPP access. Juno, for example, which > provides free internet email service but nothing else. And there are many, > many PC-based BBSes that provide email but NOT web access of any kind. SHEPPARD ARE YOU IGNORING WHAT I AM SAYING ON PURPOSE???????? If you had not CUT the rest of my paragraph above you would have seen what it said, which was: ``My point was that if you have email/Usenet access, you can get the PPP software. Hell I could uuencode it and it would still fit on one floppy (and I mean the quadfat version).'' Are you familiar with uuencoding? If so, then you know that uuencoding would still work with an email-only account. It has been around for a LONG time If you had ONLY EMAIL I could UUENCODE the file and EMAIL it to you and you could HAVE the PPP software. You CAN have the PPP software VIA EMAIL if you really wanted it. That is all I am saying. If you are going to disagree, you are wrong. If you don't believe me, ask me and I will EMAIL you the uuencoded version, and you can uudecode it and see for yourself. And if you can't take incoming email that large, then you could send me email & I'd snail mail you the floppy.... so you could get it `by email' although that's really not the original point. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5vop8f$g86$3@tsunami.traveller.com> Control: cancel <5vop8f$g86$3@tsunami.traveller.com> Date: 17 Sep 1997 20:51:47 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5vop8f$g86$3@tsunami.traveller.com> Sender: blund@eenet.com (Brett Lund) Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: BillLee@cleaf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: JAVA and OmniWeb Date: 18 Sep 1997 01:55:53 GMT Message-ID: <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net> What does it take to get Omniweb JAVA-capable? Bill Lee
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen) Subject: Re: Any next CD- Bburning software? Message-ID: <1997Sep17.215535.3002@aurora.in-berlin.de> Organization: INDIVIDUAL NETWORK Berlin References: <5svum9$3kd$2@news0.xs4all.nl> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:55:35 GMT avib <avib@xs2.xs4all.nl> wrote: : I was wondering if there's any software out there for Nextstep that can : burn CD-R's? : any pointers much appreciated, Yes, there is: CDDesigner 1.2. See http://www.ip-service.com/gehle (I have not tried this program yet.) __ __ \_V_/ ___Y___ +-----------+ |\__/. .\ Ingmar Camphausen | USE PGP! |\ O---m /| \ \_____/| ingmar@in-berlin.de | (key via server |/`-------'\| \_U__////_/ (NeXTmail/MIME OK!) | or on request) +-----------+ -- "We're not going to outlaw photography because someone takes dirty pictures. People use it for good things and bad things - and it's the same with encryption." -- Missouri Senator John Ashcroft (Rep.)
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OPENSTEP 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 Date: 18 Sep 1997 05:04:44 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vqcpc$t17@mochi.lava.net> References: <5vjbma$q7j@bcalpha.estec.esa.nl> mschwett@estec.esa.nl (Schwetterle Marc) wrote: > In article <5v82it$gut@mochi.lava.net>, arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - replace "DOT") says: > >4.0 - Lots of bugs, very slow > >4.1 - Bugs, slow > >4.2 - Fewer bugs, less slow > Is there any benchmark results (e.g. NXBench) comparing the speed ? I've noticed that my smiley has been removed from most followups. The smiley was intended to indicate that my post was at least half in jest. My comments were based on my experience moving from NS 3.3 to OS/Mach 4.0 and then to OS/NT 4.1 and 4.2. The biggest performance change, negative, occurred during the move from NS 3.3 to OS/Mach 4.0. I can't be certain that 4.1 and 4.2 are any faster than 4.0 - maybe I just grew accustomed to the speed so later versions seemed less slow. Also, I moved to a faster machine with OS/NT 4.1. I am more certain about the relative bugginess. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
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From: EDV@lfa.hal.eunet.de (Thomas Richter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Solstice Network Client 3.1 and NS 3.3 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:59:25 GMT Organization: Landesamt fuer archaeologische Denkmalpflege Sachsen-Anhalt Message-ID: <5vr8je$jv9$1@goof.Germany.EU.net> Has anyone succesful iinstallled Solstice Network Client 3.1 from Sunsoft on Windows 95 (normal version) and a NEXTSTEP 3.3 maschine as pcnfs server. Ping and telnet work. The software fails during the authentication procedure on the nfs server (NEXT Cube with NS 3.3 and installed patch, on an IBM RS/6000 with AIX 3.2.5 too) with the error message "invalid user account or password". It´s is possible to compile (with minor changes of the code) and install the pcnfs daemon from the installation CD, but with the new daemon on the server it´s impossible from the client to find the authentication server, so it´s no help to use the new compiled rpc.pcnfsd. NEXTSTEP-Clients have no problems with the default and the new compiled daemon. Thanks for any help Thomas Thomas Richter Landesamt fuer Archaeologie Sachsen-Anhalt Richard-Wagner-Strasse 9-10 06114 Halle (Saale) email: EDV@lfa.hal.eunet.de
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: JAVA and OmniWeb Date: 18 Sep 1997 13:18:26 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vr9n2$eoe$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: BillLee@cleaf.com In <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net> BillLee@cleaf.com wrote: > > What does it take to get Omniweb JAVA-capable? OmniWeb 3.x which is not yet out, and will work on OpenStep and Rhapsody, not NeXTStep. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: JAVA and OmniWeb Date: 18 Sep 1997 13:35:08 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5vramc$2a2@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net> In article <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net> BillLee@cleaf.com writes: > > What does it take to get Omniweb JAVA-capable? In the worst case a new computer and a new OS. That means that you have to buy a Rhapsody compatible machine and run Rhapsody on it. Then you can use OmniWeb 3.0 with its JAVA capabilities. For OmniWeb 2.x users there might be another solution but nobody knows for sure. David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: ooss@inforamp.net (ObjectSearch Group) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTSTEP Developers required - Permenent & Contract Positions Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 05:30:04 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <34220dd1.18807939@news.istar.ca> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NeXTSTEP Developers REQUIRED With 1.5 to 2 years solid development in a commercial environment Location: MID WEST U.S. area Lenght of Project: 6 months to 1+ years Desired skills: C++, Java, Sybase, financial environment Required: 1.5 to 2 years solid NeXTSTEP Please forward your resume in confidence to: Donald Lascelle ObjectSearch Group (416) 421-1940 Voice (416) 421-9244 Fax email: Don@ObjectSearch.com
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: JAVA and OmniWeb Date: 18 Sep 1997 17:30:07 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5vroev$hgt@news9.noc.netcom.net> References: <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net> <5vr9n2$eoe$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Cc: nospam@all.please In <5vr9n2$eoe$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > In <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net> BillLee@cleaf.com wrote: > > > > What does it take to get Omniweb JAVA-capable? > > OmniWeb 3.x which is not yet out, and will work on OpenStep and Rhapsody, not > NeXTStep. > David Andel has it straight. The keyword is Rhapsody NOT Openstep. Unless both David and I misread the announcement. Randy Rencsok rencsok (at) channelu d0t com (or if this fails e-mail errors and origional to) rencsok (At) argus d01 cem d0t msu d0t edu
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@Apple.Com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OPENSTEP 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 Date: 18 Sep 1997 18:51:46 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vrt82$127k$1@news.apple.com> References: <5vqcpc$t17@mochi.lava.net> Art Isbell writes > My comments were based on my experience moving from NS 3.3 to > OS/Mach 4.0 and then to OS/NT 4.1 and 4.2. The biggest performance > change, negative, occurred during the move from NS 3.3 to OS/Mach 4.0. > I can't be certain that 4.1 and 4.2 are any faster than 4.0 - maybe I > just grew accustomed to the speed so later versions seemed less slow. I *can* be certain (since I did the performance measurements). There's an easily measured performance difference between 4.0 and 4.1. The performance difference between 4.1 and 4.2 is smaller. It's amazing what a difference spending a few weeks concentrating on performance makes... -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: Daniel Tomasevich <danilo@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP advice Date: 18 Sep 1997 13:30:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Message-ID: <5vs309$8do@nntp02.primenet.com> I'm running NS 3.2 on a NextStation and would like to install PPP and later OmniWeb. On the www.peak.org/next site is a directory /ppp.installation.kit with PPP_Instructions, PPP app, Dialup1.2 and other files. If I follow instructions, is PPP installation straightforward? WOuld I need Gatekeeper, PPPMeter or PPPMonitor? I'd appreciate any advice, practical tips. Thanks, Daniel -- danilo@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ /
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: JAVA and OmniWeb Date: 18 Sep 1997 17:56:43 GMT Organization: University of =?ISO-8859-1?Q?W=FCrzburg,?= Germany Message-ID: <5vrq0r$hf@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: BillLee@cleaf.com In <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net> BillLee@cleaf.com wrote: > > What does it take to get Omniweb JAVA-capable? > Waiting. For OmniWeb 3.0 under Rhapsody. Can't be done with the current version. ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: hamel@unixg.ubc.ca (Dr. Keith A. Hamel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ghostscript with Deskjet 540 Date: 18 Sep 1997 21:06:40 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <5vs550$ghr$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Has anyone been able to print on a HP DeskJet 540 using ghostScript from Intel hardware. It seems that it is one of the supported printers, but I have been unable to make it work. I have managed to get ghostScript to work with LaserJets but not the DeskJet. Any help would be appreciated. Keith Hamel hamel@unxig.ubc.ca
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: JAVA and OmniWeb Date: 18 Sep 1997 21:35:58 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vs6ru$s1u$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net> <5vr9n2$eoe$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5vroev$hgt@news9.noc.netcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <5vroev$hgt@news9.noc.netcom.net> spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com wrote: > In <5vr9n2$eoe$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > In <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net> BillLee@cleaf.com wrote: > > > > > > What does it take to get Omniweb JAVA-capable? > > > > OmniWeb 3.x which is not yet out, and will work on OpenStep and Rhapsody, > > not NeXTStep. > > > > David Andel has it straight. The keyword is Rhapsody NOT Openstep. Unless > both David and I misread the announcement. OmniGroup has stated its *intention* to release for OpenStep, but it might depend on some current OpenStep bugs being fixed, and it isn't clear whether Apple/NeXT is going to release any more OpenStep releases (I've heard comments about 4.2 bugs.... but I'm not holding my breath for OpenStep 4.3) TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: mileskl@aol.com (Miles K L) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where to Purchase Openstep/Nextstep Date: 19 Sep 1997 00:23:34 GMT Message-ID: <19970919002301.UAA21120@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com SnewsLanguage: English Hi, I am very insterested in purchasing Openstep or Nextstep OS for Intel. Can anyone pointe me to where I might purchase the OS and the price. I'm new to Next but am eger to check out what the OS is all about. mileskl@aol.com
From: carl@norumrez.usask.ca (Carl Norum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RealAudio and Shockwave Date: 19 Sep 1997 00:36:08 GMT Organization: Hand of Evil Web Productions Message-ID: <5vshdo$o0g$2@tribune.usask.ca> Hello, everyone. I was recently visiting a page with several audio clips in the Shockwave sound format. (For streamed audio.) Now, I know that there is no RealAudio player for NeXTstep, but is there one for Shockwave? (The page I heard about it from can be found at http://www.blackmetal.com/ Thanks a lot. -- _________ __ / _____/____ _____ _____ _____ | | \_____ \\__ \ / \\__ \/ __ \| | / \/ __ \| Y Y |/ __ \ ____/| |__ /________ /______\__|_|__/______\_____|_____/ http://norumrez.usask.ca/samael/entrance/ Page by Carl Norum (carl@norumrez.usask.ca) for Hand of Evil Web Productions
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP advice Date: 19 Sep 1997 02:19:47 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vsng3$s1u$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5vs309$8do@nntp02.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: danilo@primenet.com In <5vs309$8do@nntp02.primenet.com> Daniel Tomasevich wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^ You aren't friends with Lawson by any chance, are you :-? > I'm running NS 3.2 on a NextStation and would like to install > PPP and later OmniWeb. On the www.peak.org/next site is a directory > /ppp.installation.kit with PPP_Instructions, PPP app, Dialup1.2 > and other files. All you really need is ppp.2.2(whatever). I think it is an installer. > If I follow instructions, is PPP installation straightforward? Installation is not usually the hard part... configuring (esp the chat script) is. > WOuld I need Gatekeeper, PPPMeter or PPPMonitor? Need? No. Some folks say that GK has helped them setup things. PPPMeter and PPPMonitor are both nice little tools once you have things setup. There are tools which are rumored to be ``soon to be released'' to make the whole thing easier, so if you're into rumors and willing to wait a bit, you might see what comes of it. TjL ps -- I personally can't help right now with setting up PPP.... maybe in like a week or so ps2 - If you want to run OmniWeb on 3.2 you need the FoundationUserPatch, which is also on PEAK. -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: "David Glowacki" <dglow@microsoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: benefits 3.2 -> 3.3 upgrade Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 19:39:30 -0700 Organization: Microsoft Corp. Message-ID: <5vson3$m5h@news.microsoft.com> I'm currently running developer 3.2 on black hardware, and am wondering about the benefits of upgrading to 3.3. From what I've gathered so far, the deltas between the two version are: 1) Developer 3.3 lets you build quadfat binaries 2) User 3.3 comes with an 'improved' NeXTmail client 3) All your black icons get replaced with generic white ones (or is that OpenStep?) So what remains are some questions of mine: 1) What is missing from the above list 2) I've heard rumblings of a some bugs and performance hits introduced with 3.3 -- is this true? 3) What exactly is different about the mail client 4) Since I don't need quadfat binary support, is it possible to run the 3.3 mail client under 3.2? 5) Finally, what are the legalities involved in upgrading to 3.3 -- was this a free upgrade for 3.2 users? I'd appreciate whatever information you can provide. Thanks! Dave Glowacki
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Way to run MS Windows or Windows NT as remote host from a NeXT? Date: 18 Sep 1997 20:45:57 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5vsshl$sd8@slip.net> Hi, Is there a way to run MS Windows or Windows NT as a remote host from a NeXT? Something like PC Anywhere or Reach Out except the local host is a NeXT instead of a PC. Thanks, Emmett
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5vl1k3$nn9$526@news.insnet.com> Control: cancel <5vl1k3$nn9$526@news.insnet.com> Date: 19 Sep 1997 09:17:05 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5vl1k3$nn9$526@news.insnet.com> Sender: goforit@savetrees.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "Michael Engelhart" <engel@bga.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Boot from CD for OS4.2 install?? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:52:33 +0000 Organization: Dreamscape Solutions Inc. Message-ID: <5vti8t$gvs$1@news3.realtime.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all - Before I go and buy OpenSTEP 4.2 for my NeXT TurboStation, can anyone tell me if you can boot up the installation CD from a SCSI CD-ROM? I have an old Apple 300e CD player that I can use. Also, any idea how large the install of the User/Developer is? thanks, Mike
From: 1reich@informatik.uni-hamburg.de.fuck-spam (Stefan Reich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HylaFAX port to Nextstep ? Date: 19 Sep 1997 15:03:27 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg Message-ID: <5vu47v$r5j$1@heinz.home.de> References: <5vjr6a$nds$1@news.Austria.EU.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: joe@TakeFive.co.at In <5vjr6a$nds$1@news.Austria.EU.net> Joe Leherbauer wrote: > Is there a Nextstep port of HylaFAX ? I compiled the client programs for my black hardware on NeXTSTEP 3.3 to work with my LINUX server. If that's what you want, compile the sources with CC="gcc -DPOSIX", but don't link with the POSIX library. Ugly hack, but it works. I integrated the sendfax command in the print/fax panel. Works very well. If you need the server software on your NeXT, just forget it. Hope that helps.... Stefan ------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Reich Tel: +49-40-85374422 Ruhrstr. 28 Fax: +49-40-85374443 22761 Hamburg 1reich@informatik.uni-hamburg.de Germany (NeXTMail welcome)
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: benefits 3.2 -> 3.3 upgrade Date: 19 Sep 1997 17:23:43 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5vucev$m89@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> References: <5vson3$m5h@news.microsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I never had 3.3 on my machine, I went from 3.2 to 4.1. But I might be able to add a few things to your list... In <5vson3$m5h@news.microsoft.com> "David Glowacki" wrote: > I'm currently running developer 3.2 on black hardware, and am wondering > about the benefits of upgrading to 3.3. From what I've gathered so far, the > deltas between the two version are: > > 1) Developer 3.3 lets you build quadfat binaries Doesn't 3.2 as well? > 2) User 3.3 comes with an 'improved' NeXTmail client > 3) All your black icons get replaced with generic white ones (or is that > OpenStep?) I think that was OpenStep, and man what a shock when I first logged into my machine after the upgrade! I almost choked... > So what remains are some questions of mine: > > 1) What is missing from the above list 3.3 introduces the FoundationKit, I believe. > 2) I've heard rumblings of a some bugs and performance hits introduced with > 3.3 -- is this true? > 3) What exactly is different about the mail client I believe its MIME support. > 4) Since I don't need quadfat binary support, is it possible to run the 3.3 > mail client under 3.2? Yes. I did. > 5) Finally, what are the legalities involved in upgrading to 3.3 -- was this > a free upgrade for 3.2 users? -- |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Mark Trombino | J A M S o f t | | mtrombin@ix.netcom.com | Audio DSP Tools for Openstep & Rhapsody | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Way to run MS Windows or Windows NT as remote host from a NeXT? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:11:31 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EGrMF7.n3x@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <5vsshl$sd8@slip.net> In article <5vsshl$sd8@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes: > Hi, > > Is there a way to run MS Windows or Windows NT > as a remote host from a NeXT? > > Something like PC Anywhere or Reach Out except > the local host is a NeXT instead of a PC. > NTrigue from insignia solutions does this. Unfortunatly you need an X server. They wouldn't let me write a NeXT native version, but they do have experience with NeXT X servers. $an
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.camelot.de> Subject: Font Converter next2mac? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xvhzx9qmn.fsf@burrow.camelot.de> Sender: tm@burrow.camelot.de (Markus Gloede) Organization: @heism (a non-prophet organization) Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:10:08 GMT I know there a some font converters that do mac2next bur are there any that convert in the other direction? Thanks for any pointers. Markus Gloede -- "no.spam" is a working address. When posting a followup, mailing a courtesy copy is appreciated, provided it is clearly marked as such. MIME and NeXT-Mail welcome.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <19970919184400.OAA20602@ladder02.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19970919184400.OAA20602@ladder02.news.aol.com> Date: 19 Sep 1997 18:44:21 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.19970919184400.OAA20602@ladder02.news.aol.com> Sender: pptohealth@aol.com (Pptohealth) Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Alex King <king@cube.phy.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Boot from CD for OS4.2 install?? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:51:13 -0500 Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970919134656.17985A-100000@cube.phy.uic.edu> References: <5vti8t$gvs$1@news3.realtime.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Michael Engelhart <engel@bga.com> In-Reply-To: <5vti8t$gvs$1@news3.realtime.net> If the official OS4.2 CD is the same as the one included in Prelude2Rhapsody, the boot starts from a floppy containing nothing but the boot block for the CD-ROM. Then the boot files are read from the CD (SCSI OK). bak On Fri, 19 Sep 1997,Michael Engelhart wrote: > Hello all - > > Before I go and buy OpenSTEP 4.2 for my NeXT TurboStation, can anyone tell > me if you can boot up the installation CD from a SCSI CD-ROM? I have an old > Apple 300e CD player that I can use. Also, any idea how large the install > of the User/Developer is? > > thanks, > Mike > > -------------------------------------------------------------- |************************|***********************************| |B. Alex King III |University of Illinois at Chicago | |email: aking@uic.edu |Department of Physics (M/C 273) | |************************|***********************************| --------------------------------------------------------------
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: benefits 3.2 -> 3.3 upgrade Date: 19 Sep 1997 21:24:24 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vuqi8$s1u$10@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5vson3$m5h@news.microsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dglow@microsoft.com In <5vson3$m5h@news.microsoft.com> "David Glowacki" wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ cool ;-) > 1) Developer 3.3 lets you build quadfat binaries > 2) User 3.3 comes with an 'improved' NeXTmail client > 3) All your black icons get replaced with generic white ones (or is that > OpenStep?) yes, but you can (and, morally, should ;-) correct #3, and there are packages to do so. > So what remains are some questions of mine: > > 1) What is missing from the above list Nothing, unless you are on Intel, in which case I think more hardware was introduced. > 2) I've heard rumblings of a some bugs and performance hits introduced with > 3.3 -- is this true? there are patches with 3.3... It may be a little slower, I never really noticed > 3) What exactly is different about the mail client MIME, nested Mailboxes, and loadable bundles > 4) Since I don't need quadfat binary support, is it possible to run the 3.3 > mail client under 3.2? yes, entirely possible > 5) Finally, what are the legalities involved in upgrading to 3.3 -- was this > a free upgrade for 3.2 users? I don't think so. I doubt anyone will hunt you down, but legally it probably isn't kosher... TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: JAVA and OmniWeb Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EGqCtK.Dp@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 00:46:31 GMT References: <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5vq1n9$ruo@news0-alterdial.uu.net>, <BillLee@cleaf.com> wrote: > >What does it take to get Omniweb JAVA-capable? > Run OmniWeb 3.0 on Rhapsody. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Nobert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Opener.app for Solaris? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:42:59 +0200 Organization: ESO Message-ID: <34222D03.6D8532F7@eso.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have a OpenStep for Solaris version of Opener.app ? Thanks Nor
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <6015av$8b4604@volta.nmhu.edu> Control: cancel <6015av$8b4604@volta.nmhu.edu> Date: 20 Sep 1997 19:54:19 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.6015av$8b4604@volta.nmhu.edu> Sender: Andy<ss21@usa.net> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: tfu@bigfoot.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: benefits 3.2 -> 3.3 upgrade Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 18:55:19 GMT Organization: Smoke'n Joy - The first virtual crematory Message-ID: <1997Sep20.185519.616@online.de> References: <5vson3$m5h@news.microsoft.com> <5vuqi8$s1u$10@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nospam@all.please In <5vuqi8$s1u$10@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > > 3) What exactly is different about the mail client > > MIME, nested Mailboxes, and loadable bundles No, loadable bundles existed already under Mail-3.2. Mail-3.3 was slightly improved that the bundles could also exist under ~/Library/Mail or /LocalLibrary/Mail which was not possible with the older Next-Mail.
From: Callsign Enzo <gansen@arthur.avalon.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Configure.app Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 16:14:18 -0500 Organization: Avalon Networks Inc. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.970920161208.6884A-100000@arthur.avalon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Upon installation of NS User 3.3, my Configure.app file cannot be started because it is damaged. I am a bit of a NS newbie, obviously. What does this file do, and how badly do I really need it? Until I find a CD caddy I cannot reinstall, so if it is important, and if anyone wants to tar theirs up and mail it to me, I'd be pretty thankful. --Chris _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Gansen gansen@avalon.net http://www.avalon.net/~gansen
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Boot from CD for OS4.2 install?? Date: 19 Sep 1997 17:24:20 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5vucg4$qtm$2@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <5vti8t$gvs$1@news3.realtime.net> In article <5vti8t$gvs$1@news3.realtime.net>, Michael Engelhart <engel@bga.com> wrote: >Before I go and buy OpenSTEP 4.2 for my NeXT TurboStation, can anyone tell >me if you can boot up the installation CD from a SCSI CD-ROM? If 4.2's boot blocks is the same as 4.2PR2, then it won't boot on black machines. You'll get cksum, version, etc errors. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Enterprise Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <601rad$qbb$994@eros.clara.net> Control: cancel <601rad$qbb$994@eros.clara.net> Date: 21 Sep 1997 02:18:47 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.601rad$qbb$994@eros.clara.net> Sender: canadaquitz@clara.net Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Configure.app Date: 21 Sep 1997 03:58:38 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60261e$bng$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <Pine.HPP.3.96.970920161208.6884A-100000@arthur.avalon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gansen@arthur.avalon.net In <Pine.HPP.3.96.970920161208.6884A-100000@arthur.avalon.net> Callsign Enzo wrote: > Upon installation of NS User 3.3, my Configure.app file cannot be started > because it is damaged. Are you using NeXT hardware (ie slab or cube)? If so you don't need Configure.app TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: benefits 3.2 -> 3.3 upgrade Date: 21 Sep 1997 03:54:42 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6025q2$bng$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5vson3$m5h@news.microsoft.com> <5vuqi8$s1u$10@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <1997Sep20.185519.616@online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <1997Sep20.185519.616@online.de> Thomas F. Unke wrote: > In <5vuqi8$s1u$10@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > MIME, nested Mailboxes, and loadable bundles > > No, loadable bundles existed already under Mail-3.2. Mail-3.3 was slightly > improved that the bundles could also exist under ~/Library/Mail or > /LocalLibrary/Mail which was not possible with the older Next-Mail. I was under the impression that only cryptor.bundle worked under 3.2 and the rest depended on 3.3. I could be wrong... it's been a long time TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <6026gp$lud@new1.sundial.net> Control: cancel <6026gp$lud@new1.sundial.net> Date: 21 Sep 1997 04:10:40 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.6026gp$lud@new1.sundial.net> Sender: SEX APPEAL INSTANTLY<jason@compuserve.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <9488874209621@digifix.com> Date: 21 Sep 1997 03:49:30 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <12335874814429@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
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From: 1reich@informatik.uni-hamburg.de.fuck-spam (Stefan Reich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener.app for Solaris? Date: 21 Sep 1997 13:01:05 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg Message-ID: <6035qh$lfv$1@heinz.home.de> References: <34222D03.6D8532F7@eso.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: npirzkal@eso.org In <34222D03.6D8532F7@eso.org> Nobert Pirzkal wrote: > Does anyone have a OpenStep for Solaris version of Opener.app ? I think it's hopeless. I've never seen a single site having Solaris OPENSTEP Software. ------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Reich Tel: +49-40-85374422 Ruhrstr. 28 Fax: +49-40-85374443 22761 Hamburg 1reich@informatik.uni-hamburg.de Germany (NeXTMail welcome)
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: benefits 3.2 -> 3.3 upgrade Date: 21 Sep 1997 18:22:54 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <603olu$mgg$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5vson3$m5h@news.microsoft.com> "David Glowacki" <dglow@microsoft.com> wrote: ... >5) Finally, what are the legalities involved in upgrading to 3.3 -- was this >a free upgrade for 3.2 users? No. - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.mime,comp.sys.next.software Followup-To: comp.mail.mime From: Russell Schulz <Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG> Subject: Netscape can't handle comments on MIME-Version? (was Re: Attachement file problem in NeXT mail program.) Message-ID: <19970922.004729.6S0.rnr.w164w_-_@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 00:47:29 +0100 References: <34220FDE.5D21@bora.dacom.co.kr> Organization: Private System, London SW19, UK Rant: against RFC 822 CC: poster [ followups moved to comp.mail.mime ] dejavu@bora.dacom.co.kr (Jong tae, KIm) writes: > I have a problem in getting the mail , which the NeXT Mail 3.3 sent. > The problem is that I can't see the attached file in the netscape 3.0 > mail program. the mail looks fine. I can read it fine (well, up to the part where you truncated it). (I didn't quote the entire message -- see DejaNews for it.) > From: simon_*ONLY*SPAMMERS*WOULD*MAIL*THIS*NOW*@il.us.swissbank.com that was a bit cruel, posting his email address for all the spammers to see. > Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v124.8483.6) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is probably what's confusing your client -- unfortunately, the RFC 822 tolerance of `random text, anywhere, anytime, anyhow, between almost any two tokens and pretend it and its whitespace aren't really there, as long as it's in (nested) parentheses' has survived into MIME, and we're still suffering because of it. or should that text be surrounded by `"'s because it's got `.'s in it? -- Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG Shad 86c
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pre-Announcement: PStill - a PS to PDF converter for NS/OS Date: 22 Sep 1997 01:41:12 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <604ibo$cq$1@news.seicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: postscript pdf converter This is a pre-announcement of PStill - my PostScript to PDF converter for NeXTSTEP/OpenStep and - soon - serveral other OS is now available on http://www.this.net/~frank/pstill.html -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
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From: Callsign Enzo <gansen@arthur.avalon.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BackSpaceDuo Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 01:52:32 -0500 Organization: Avalon Networks Inc. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.970922015119.26974A-100000@arthur.avalon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The BackSpace problem still has me bummed. It says when I launch it or try to use any new modules that it is "unable to dynamically load class" which strikes me as a linking problem. This isnt the stock Backspace but rather a different copy that allows for different backgrounds than the screensaver part. If anyone has an idea of what might fix this (I am going over the readme now), let me know. --Chris _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Gansen gansen@avalon.net http://www.avalon.net/~gansen
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From: fukuda@ifor.ethz.ch (Komei Fukuda) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ppp with pap (Re: pppup?) Date: 22 Sep 1997 14:17:13 GMT Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ) Message-ID: <605ul9$km$1@elna.ethz.ch> References: <5vd4li$8b2$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Could anyone kindly help me? Recently the network provider I use with diapup connection has changed their configuration, and I cannot connect my NeXTstation to them any more. The reason is they do not use a simple authentication with "login:" and "password:" prompts. They told me to use PAP or CHAP connection. So I have tried to configure ppp2.3b3 for PAP connection, but without success. Has anyone succeeded in using PAP with ppp2.3/2.2? What I have done was just to use the old chat script up to waiting for "CONNECT" reply, and then run pppd with pap option "require-pap". I include the log of pppup session below. I saved the authentication information in the file pap-secrets and pppd is certainly sending these data to the provider. (Of course I masked the username and the password with "xxxxxx" and "yyyyyyyy" in the log.) Could you kindly teach me what is going wrong here? Thank you so much for your help. Komei Fukuda P.S. I have no problem to connect Mac/WinNT to my provider with MacPPP/WinNT-built-in-tools. I did not have to modify anything with these OS's which I hardly use... --- pppd2.3.log ----- Sep 14 13:55:52 montdor pppd[269]: pppd 2.3.0 started by root, uid 0 Sep 14 13:55:56 montdor chat[271]: abort on (ERROR) Sep 14 13:55:56 montdor chat[271]: abort on (BUSY) Sep 14 13:55:56 montdor chat[271]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Sep 14 13:55:56 montdor chat[271]: timeout set to 80 seconds Sep 14 13:55:56 montdor chat[271]: send (ATZ^M) Sep 14 13:55:56 montdor chat[271]: expect (OK) Sep 14 13:55:56 montdor chat[271]: ATZ^M^M Sep 14 13:55:56 montdor chat[271]: OK -- got it Sep 14 13:55:56 montdor chat[271]: send (ATD6415928^M) Sep 14 13:55:57 montdor chat[271]: expect (CONNECT) Sep 14 13:55:57 montdor chat[271]: ^M Sep 14 13:56:21 montdor chat[271]: ATD6415928^M^M Sep 14 13:56:21 montdor chat[271]: CONNECT -- got it Sep 14 13:56:21 montdor chat[271]: send (^M) Sep 14 13:56:21 montdor chat[271]: expect (V42BIS) Sep 14 13:56:21 montdor chat[271]: 31200/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS -- got it Sep 14 13:56:21 montdor pppd[269]: Serial connection established. Sep 14 13:56:22 montdor pppd[269]: Using interface ppp0 Sep 14 13:56:22 montdor pppd[269]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufa Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <auth pap> <magic 0x5770b568> <pcomp> <accomp>] Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4a <asyncmap 0xa0000> <auth pap> <magic 0xc4b3f408> <pcomp> <accomp>] Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: (a0000) Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: (ACK) Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: (c023) Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: (ACK) Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: (c4b3f408) Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: (ACK) Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: (ACK) Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: (ACK) Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFACK. Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x4a <asyncmap 0xa0000> <auth pap> <magic 0xc4b3f408> <pcomp> <accomp>] Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <auth pap> <magic 0x5770b568> <pcomp> <accomp>] Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x5770b568] Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="xxxxxxx" password="yyyyyyyy"] Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: pap_sauth: Sent id 1. Sep 14 13:56:24 montdor pppd[269]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0xc4b3f408] Sep 14 13:56:25 montdor pppd[269]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ""] Sep 14 13:56:25 montdor pppd[269]: pap_rauthack: Rcvd id 1. Sep 14 13:56:25 montdor pppd[269]: Remote message: Sep 14 13:56:40 montdor pppd[269]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x5770b568] Sep 14 13:56:40 montdor pppd[269]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0xc4b3f408] Sep 14 13:56:54 montdor pppd[269]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "Authentication failed"] Sep 14 13:56:55 montdor pppd[269]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2] Sep 14 13:56:55 montdor pppd[269]: Connection terminated. Sep 14 13:56:57 montdor pppd[269]: Exit. ----- Komei Fukuda Institut fur Operations Research ETH Zentrum, CH-8092 Zurich, Switzerland fax +41-1-632 1025 tel +41-1-632 4023 or 4028 email:fukuda@ifor.math.ethz.ch http://www.ifor.math.ethz.ch/staff/fukuda/fukuda.html
From: pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Ancient Greek in ptroff? Date: 22 Sep 1997 15:30:28 GMT Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Message-ID: <6062uk$pgu@lace.colorado.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: pb I'm wondering if there exists a way to generate PostSript output, using ptroff (or groff, if it exists for NeXT--it must, right?), that includes Greek characters (this part is simple, I know) with accents and breathing marks, where appropriate (this part I have not yet figured out how to do). Does anyone have any suggestions? (I would be willing to consider TeX, too, if it makes a big difference. However, this is for a friend who is already comfortable with troff, and who would rather not have to learn a new syntax, etc.) Thanks in advance. PB Schechter pb@colorado.edu
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: EVERYTHINGS FREE WEBSITE Date: 22 Sep 1997 16:17:45 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6065n9$9oa$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34264589.56175093@news.ionet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <34264589.56175093@news.ionet.net> me_100@hotmail.comNOSPAMMING wrote: > http://www.angelfire.com/ok/markandstacey > everything on this site is FREE > please sign my guestbook and let me know what you think Hrm.... no NeXTStep related software anywhere on the page, and a hideously ugly background. I think you're a spammer and have no taste! The former has been reported to your admin at ionet.net and angelfire.com The second is not yet a crime, just an observation. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ppp with pap (Re: pppup?) Date: 22 Sep 1997 18:41:05 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <606e41$rp@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5vd4li$8b2$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <605ul9$km$1@elna.ethz.ch> fukuda@ifor.ethz.ch (Komei Fukuda) wrote: > Has anyone succeeded in using PAP with ppp2.3/2.2? Yes (with 2.2). It's very easy. > What I have done was just to use the old chat script up to > waiting for "CONNECT" reply, and then run pppd with pap option > "require-pap". You must NOT use require-pap! What you have to do is the following: 1. create /etc/ppp/pap-secrets (preferrably with mode 600): # This file provides the login passwords for different ISPs of different # users of this computer. It is used for connections which need PAP # authentication. $username$ $ISPshortcut$ $password$ These data will be read by the corresponding options file(s). $username$ is the name with which you log in into your ISP (Internet Service Provider). $ISPshortcut$ is a name for the ISP you can freely choose. $password$ is the password you need to authentify to your ISP. Note that there can be as many of these lines as you want for different combinations of users, ISP's and respective passwords. 2. to your options file, add the following two lines: name $username$ remotename $ISPshortcut$ $username$ is the name with which you log in into your ISP (Internet Service Provider). There must be an entry for this username in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets. $ISPshortcut$ is the name for the ISP you have chosen in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets. That's it. Don't use any other options regarding PAP! Good luck! Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: Denise Howard <deniseh@shell3.ba.best.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener.app for Solaris? Date: 22 Sep 1997 20:29:43 GMT Organization: Remove NOSPAM to reply Message-ID: <606kfn$g5k$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> References: <34222D03.6D8532F7@eso.org> Nobert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org> wrote: : Does anyone have a OpenStep for Solaris version of Opener.app ? The current version of Opener on the archives was compiled quad-fat, which means that your installation options include the NeXTSTEP-Solaris version of the executable. This should run just fine under OpenStep-Solaris. Denise -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: "John Smith" <user@isp.com> Newsgroups: alt.binaries.games,alt.games,alt.irc.games,bionet.software,biz.comp.software,biz.comp.software.demos,comp.software,comp.sys.next.software,fj.rec.games.video.oldies,fj.rec.games.video.pc,iijnet.games,misc.forsale.computers.other.software,misc.f Subject: Terminal Pacity Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:57 -0400 Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <606nss$b5m$1@news2.digex.net> AL's SoftWare Presents: T E R M I N A L P A C I T Y ... a game by Don Williamson [KARALIOTH@GEOCITIES.COM] [57 Wathen Road * Leamington Spa * Warwickshire * CV32 5UY * ENGLAND] $5 ShareWare - the cheapest game EVER! Goto http://alsoftware.dyn.ml.org/~alsoft/software/termpac or http://www.rocketdownload.com/Details/Arca/pacsetup.htm to download a NAG-free ShareWare DEMO. T H E M O S T A D I C T I V E G A M E E V E R! Great Graphics, Great Sound, BEST GAME-PLAY since the original Mario! Easy to install/play (= but very difficult to STOP =) ... plus the registered version includes: * THE FULL VERSION - Bigger & Better!!!!! * A COMPLETE, easy to use level editor! * B2PCX Graphics Changer - Change the ingame graphics in 5 minutes! * A total of 8!!! Levels! (plus the obility to use additional level packages) * More graphics! * More monsters! * Ability to save up to 5 games! * Ability to change the number of lives Pac starts with! * An easy conscience... =========================================== I personally believe that Terminal Pacity is the most exciting game ever made! I was playing it 4-8 hours a day for the past two month (its kinda like meditation, only more fun!). Try it, and Im sure that you'll agree. I am so confident that Terminal Pacity is the best game ever made; I will agree to the following (UseNet posting are identical to "verbal contracts") : If you try Terminal Pacity and you DON'T think its the best game ever made, email me at alsoft@programmer.net; and I will *buy* you a REGISTERED copy! -Alex Libman, CEO of AL's SoftWare.
From: "Simon (V. ILyushchenko)" <simonf@rrg.msk.su> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NFS without Netinfo??? Samba printing to NT??? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 01:37:30 +0400 Organization: Russian Space Research Institute Message-ID: <3426E51A.11DD@rrg.msk.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am a system administrator trying to incorporate Nextstep 3.3 machines into a typical office network with a Linux server and Windows workstations. Since I am not terribly versed in Next, I have some problems: 1. How can I add the Linux server to the Netinfo domain? When I try to do it the usual way via Netinfo HostManager, the new entry appears, but I cannot use it in the NFSManager for importing an NFS directory. I do specify both the IP and Ethernet addresses of the Linux server. 2. If it is not possible, is there another way to use NFS on Nextstep, avoding Netinfo altogether? Now for Samba 1.9.16p9 and NT printer problems: 3. Sometimes smbclient's connection time is very slow (more exactly, minutes may pass between "Adding interface" message and smb command prompt). Looks like it is very slow the first time after a login and gets faster at the further tries. 4. Only whole pages are printed. If a file is too small, the printer will wait for more input from smbclient. If a file is longer than one page, the complete pages will be printed, and the rest will be left "cached". If I print something else from the same smbclient later, it gets appended to the cached text. If I print from a Windows machine later, the cached text is printed on a separate page before giving way to the Windows output. Thanks, Simon -- _________ Simon (Vsevolod ILyushchenko) | x | | y = e | simonf@rrg.msk.su Life is file... |_________| Disclaimer: This is not me. This is just my mailer talking to your mailer...
From: Inderjit_S_Gahir@rl.gov (Inderjit "Indy" Gahir) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Please help with 3.3/Intel install Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:57:56 GMT Organization: Fluor Daniel Northwest Message-ID: <606plc$411@columbia.rl.gov> References: <5vcs4e$4gc@examiner.concentric.net> I believe I saw something in NeXTAnswers that talked about this problem. This was a problem with the S3 driver. The way around this problem is simple. After the loader comes up and you are prompted type in an optional boot string, type in -v This will force the computer to display the what is being loaded instead of displaying the graphical loader screen. Hope that helps. In article <5vcs4e$4gc@examiner.concentric.net>, A1cpaf@cris.com (Andy Fenner) wrote: >I have an 040 mono slab running 3.3 and I just bought an Intel box. Here >are the specs: > >Pentium 133 >Elitegroup p5hx-b motherboard >48MB RAM >2.5GB EIDE Western Digital >16x ATAPI CD-ROM >ExpertColor DSV3325 S3 ViRGE video >LinkSys Ether16 Combo card >Apple MultiScan 15" > >Here's my problem: I can get the Mach kernal installed fine and reboot >the machine to install NeXTStep. After I define my machine parameters (on >the graphical setup screen) and hit "OK" the screen goes black and the >system locks up. > >I've tried using the S3 driver and the standard VGA driver with the same >results. I guess what I'm asking is what other drivers do I need (if >any), why is my screen going black, what should I set the graphics memory >address to, and is it worth all this trouble to install this on my Intel >box? > >Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. If you could please respond >to the newsgroup and by e-mail, that would be great. > >Thanks, >Andy >a1cpaf@concentric.net >
From: nospam@ried_at_mpip-mainz.mpg.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ghostscript with Deskjet 540 Date: 19 Sep 1997 14:44:18 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <5vu342$4s9$1@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> References: <5vs550$ghr$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> hamel@unixg.ubc.ca (Dr. Keith A. Hamel) wrote: > Has anyone been able to print on a HP DeskJet 540 using ghostScript from Intel hardware. It seems that it is one of the supported printers, but I have been unable to make it work. I have managed to get ghostScript to work with LaserJets but not the DeskJet. We have a DJ 560C and a DJ850C running with the GSPrintFilter ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/printer/GSPrintFilter.R EADME and no problems under OS 4.2 may be you have to reboot the system with the printer switched on. stef -- _____________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G.\ |E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME/NeXT welcome) | |Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 __/___/ | |Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| |WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried \_/ \_/| | There are only three types of computer users: | | Those that use NeXTs. Those that wished they used NeXTs. | | Those that don't know what they are missing. | \_____________________________________________________________________/
From: nospam@ried_at_mpip-mainz.mpg.de Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software Subject: TeXView for OpenStep ? Date: 18 Sep 1997 20:16:41 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <5vs279$gfq$4@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Has anybody ported TeXView to OpenStep yet ? stefan -- _____________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G.\ |E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME/NeXT welcome) | |Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 __/___/ | |Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| |WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried \_/ \_/| | There are only three types of computer users: | | Those that use NeXTs. Those that wished they used NeXTs. | | Those that don't know what they are missing. | \_____________________________________________________________________/
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 06:51:12 -0600 From: stefan.osterman@upnet.se Subject: CD burner software Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <875101381.3356@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service Hi there Does anyone know if there is any cd-burner software for NS/OS out there, and which hardware to use? //Stefan -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.lang.asm Subject: Re: assembler for PPro & NEXTSTEP? Date: 24 Sep 1997 11:57:25 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <60av75$fma$1@news.seicom.net> References: <60aljn$n1f$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk In <60aljn$n1f$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Thomas Harte wrote: > > Is there an assembler (commercial or otherwise) available for > Intel PPro running NEXTSTEP 4.1? 'man as' AS(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual AS(1) NAME as - NeXT GNU-based assemblers producing Mach object files SYNOPSIS as [ option ... ] [ file ... ] DESCRIPTION The as command translates assembly code in the named files to object code. If no files are specified, as reads from stdin. All undefined symbols in the assembly are treated as global. The output of the assembly is left in the file a.out by default. ... That's on 3.3, guess it is still in 4.x... -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: oschirr@abm12.abm.de (Oliver Schirrmeister) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: swapfile.front Date: 24 Sep 1997 12:25:53 GMT Organization: Nacamar Data Communications Message-ID: <60b0sh$qmv$1@news.nacamar.de> Hello, what is the /private/vm/swapfile.front file good for? On my computer it has a size of a little more than 1 GB. Is that ok? Thanks Oliver
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD burner software Date: 24 Sep 1997 13:06:34 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <60b38q$l07$1@news.seicom.net> References: <875101381.3356@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: stefan.osterman@upnet.se In <875101381.3356@dejanews.com> stefan.osterman@upnet.se wrote: > Hi there > > Does anyone know if there is any cd-burner software for NS/OS out there, > and which hardware to use? For cheap you may use my port of cdwrite-2.0 (a linux command line tool) to NS. See Area 51 (http://www.this.net/~frank) in the Download Area. You get what you pay for... :-) For a bit more money there is AerePerennius by Markus Stoll et al. (markus@isolde.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de) and for more there is CDDesigner by Gehle software. I like AerePerennius, it does what you think it should do, reliable and fast. I have not tested CDDesigner yet, but from the CDDesigner.ps documentation (I used as test document for my <PLUG> PS to PDF converter because it shrinks from 12 MByte as PostScript to 270 kByte in PDF without loss of content </PLUG>) it appears quite good to me too. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Please help with 3.3/Intel install Date: 24 Sep 1997 13:26:27 GMT Organization: Delft University of Technology Message-ID: <60b4e3$6jr$1@news.tudelft.nl> References: <606plc$411@columbia.rl.gov> Inderjit "Indy" Gahir writes > I believe I saw something in NeXTAnswers that talked about this problem. > This was a problem with the S3 driver. The way around this problem is > simple. After the loader comes up and you are prompted type in an > optional boot string, type in -v This will force the computer to display > the what is being loaded instead of displaying the graphical loader > screen. > > >Pentium 133 > >Elitegroup p5hx-b motherboard > >48MB RAM > >Here's my problem: I can get the Mach kernal installed fine and reboot > >the machine to install NeXTStep. After I define my machine parameters (on > >the graphical setup screen) and hit "OK" the screen goes black and the > >system locks up. > > I had exactly the same problem: lock up after graphically configuring the system. The -v solution didn't work for me. Anybody a better idea ? Abraham. _____________________________________________________________________ Abraham Guyt P.O.Box 356 Department of Information Systems 2600 AJ Delft Faculty Information Technology & Systems The Netherlands Delft University of Technology tel: +31 15 278 5969 E-mail: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl NeXT-mail welcome
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: benefits 3.2 -> 3.3 upgrade Date: 24 Sep 1997 17:41:37 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EGz28K.H3n@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <5vson3$m5h@news.microsoft.com> <5vuqi8$s1u$10@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > In <5vson3$m5h@news.microsoft.com> "David Glowacki" wrote: > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > cool ;-) > > > 1) Developer 3.3 lets you build quadfat binaries > > 2) User 3.3 comes with an 'improved' NeXTmail client > > 3) All your black icons get replaced with generic white ones (or is that > > OpenStep?) > > yes, but you can (and, morally, should ;-) correct #3, and there are packages > to do so. For instance: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/graphics/icons/BlackIcons.2.1.d.pkg.tar.gz </PLUG> :-) > > So what remains are some questions of mine: > > > > 1) What is missing from the above list > > Nothing, unless you are on Intel, in which case I think more hardware was > introduced. Improved InterfaceBuilder (outline mode; EOF support). > > 2) I've heard rumblings of a some bugs and performance hits introduced with > > 3.3 -- is this true? > > there are patches with 3.3... It may be a little slower, I never really > noticed My impression at the time was that 3.3 was a bit more responsive overall. 3.3 does introduce the infamous clock-tick-related memory leak in Preferences, which slowly fills up your swapdisk if you never log out... (less slowly if your preferred clock jumps every second instead of every minute.|-) > > 3) What exactly is different about the mail client > > MIME, nested Mailboxes, and loadable bundles > > > 4) Since I don't need quadfat binary support, is it possible to run the 3.3 > > mail client under 3.2? > > yes, entirely possible > > > > 5) Finally, what are the legalities involved in upgrading to 3.3 -- was > this > > a free upgrade for 3.2 users? > > I don't think so. I doubt anyone will hunt you down, but legally it probably > isn't kosher... Nope. It cost real money to upgrade at the time... -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.dev.null.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.dev.null.nl> (work) __/__/__/ <<SPAMBLOCK: remove . dev . null to reply>> __/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
From: "F.J.Herrmann" <felix@fresnel.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q:Installing NeXTStep 3.3. on Gateway 2000 model G6-233 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 12:06:30 -0700 Organization: Department of Mathematics, Stanford University Message-ID: <342964B6.42C3967B@fresnel.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For a long time I have been trying to bring to live a Quantum fireball SCSI 3.2 GB harddisk on a Gateway 2000 model G6-233. The hardware specifcs are: Pentium II 233 MHz adaptec 2940 ultra SCSI adapter 3c509B Ethernet STB verge/GX 3D graphics card The problem is that during the installation the cd-rom and scsi devices are not being recognized. During the boot inspection with cntrl a the controller and drives are correctly shown. However after booting with the NeXTstep booting disk and choosing the corect driver the installation is unable to locate the scsi devices let be the adaptec controller. The errow being given goes along the lines:could not allocate space for the adaptec. This errow occurts with the original version of the boot and driver floppies whereas the error: Bios error 0x10 @ 2700, c:75 H:0 ...... occurs when I use the new boot and driver images. I undertook, amongst others the following actions: adjusted the speeds and other settings of the scsi device by using the cntl a utillity disabled bios cd disabled advanced power management Of course the scsi id's are correcly set. Unfortunately all of this does not seem to work. Does anybody have a suggestion??? Thanks in advance, Felix -- ===================================================================== Felix J. Herrmann telephone (work) : (+1) 650 723 6769 Department of Mathematics voice mail (private): (+1) 650 903 9685 Stanford University fax : (+1) 415 725 4066 Building 380 email : mailto:herrmann@math.stanford.edu Stanford CA 94305-2125 url : http://wwwak.tn.tudelft.nl/~felix USA or : http://math.Stanford.EDU/~herrmann =====================================================================
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From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Crossposting (was Re: swapfile.front) Date: 24 Sep 1997 21:27:13 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60c0jh$86i$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <60b0sh$qmv$1@news.nacamar.de> <60c07i$86i$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: oschirr@abm12.abm.de Ok, I didn't realize at first that this message was crossposted. Please refer to http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html and do not crosspost within csn.* and if you MUST crosspost, set a Followup-To line. Why is this important? Well, in this instance, someone else had already responded on csn.hardware when I read csn.software and read the original post. The other person had not sent the followup to csn.software, so I didn't see the answer, and duplicated the effort to answer the question all over again. Now I'm posting yet another crossposted message, to demonstrate how blind with power I am. (smiley implied) TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: swapfile.front Date: 24 Sep 1997 21:20:50 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60c07i$86i$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <60b0sh$qmv$1@news.nacamar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: oschirr@abm12.abm.de In <60b0sh$qmv$1@news.nacamar.de> Oliver Schirrmeister wrote: > Hello, > > what is the /private/vm/swapfile.front file good for? > On my computer it has a size of a little more than 1 GB. > Is that ok? I refer you to http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/FAQs/swapfaq.html my first experience with HTML... some 15 pages long (all one really long page) and then I accidentally deleted it before I had a backup. Man did that suck. Anyway it points to a ``must read'' which is: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1020.htmld/1020.html ``optimizing virtual memory with swaptab'' and it says: > By the way, when you enable the swaptimizer, you'll see an extra > fileapparently being created on your disk. This file will have the samename > as the backing store file being used by the swaptimizer, with .front > appended. This isn't really an extra file: It's a mount point used by the > swaptimizer and actually takes up no real space on your disk. The ratio of > the apparent size of the .front file and the size of backing store file > provides a measure of the effectiveness of the swaptimizer's compression. It's a really good page for reading up on such things. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.os.mach,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mklinux on Nextstep/Openstep-for-Mach/Mach 2.5? Date: 24 Sep 1997 21:33:01 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <60c0ud$loo$1@cronkite.cygnus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm curious if anyone has tried getting mklinux to run as an additional 'personality' on top of the NeXT Mach kernel? -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Thought for the day: According to the supreme court, proof of innocence isn't enough to avoid execution if you've exhausted your appeals.
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Please help with 3.3/Intel install Date: 25 Sep 1997 02:26:16 GMT Message-ID: <19970925022600.WAA17530@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <60b4e3$6jr$1@news.tudelft.nl> SnewsLanguage: English Next (Apple) tech support told me to boot the system manually by typing something like bsd(1,0) (It was the command to manually boot off the first system disk) but it didn't work for me (ThinkPad 755C with Adaptec SCSI card in Dock I docking station). Apparently this work-around does work for some Compaq systems. Best of luck! William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: gh@middlemarch.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD burner software Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:24:57 -0400 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <3429F5A9.63EE@middlemarch.net> References: <875101381.3356@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: stefan.osterman@upnet.se stefan.osterman@upnet.se wrote: > > Hi there > > Does anyone know if there is any cd-burner software for NS/OS out there, > and which hardware to use? There is CDDesigner, a commercial app, which is very nice. And there is also cdwrite, a shareware app, but I have not tried it. Both can be found on the peak ftp site. --Greg
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.lang.asm Subject: Re: assembler for PPro & NEXTSTEP? Date: 25 Sep 1997 09:08:54 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <60d9n6$703$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <60aljn$n1f$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <60av75$fma$1@news.seicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net In <60av75$fma$1@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote: > 'man as' > > AS(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual AS(1) > > NAME > as - NeXT GNU-based assemblers producing Mach object files > Sorry. I should have added that I last programmed an 8086 using Turbo Assembler in 1990 and that I was looking for something similar, i.e., an integrated developer's environment for assembly. 'as' will probably do the trick, though. For those interested, Luke Adamson kindly pointed me to : http://www.intel.com/design/pro/manuals/ where you can find PDF documentation for the Pentium Pro Processor. -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 MIME & NeXT Mail OK.
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: gcc optimized for Intel PPro NEXTSTEP 4.1 Date: 25 Sep 1997 09:13:02 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <60d9uu$703$2@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone know the whereabouts of gcc optimized for Intel PPro which is compatible with NEXTSTEP 4.1. I have heard that there are difficulties in compatibility between later versions of gcc (2.7.x, I think?) and NEXTSTEP 4.1 (I am currently running gcc 2.5.8!! which came bundled with the system... but it works fine...apart from shared libraries...and then there's no graphical debugger....) -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 MIME & NeXT Mail OK.
From: <webmaster@webvermont.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: This is a must visit site! Message-ID: <342a6ca1.1@news.together.net> Date: 25 Sep 97 13:52:33 GMT Check out this site! http://www.webvermont.com
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hebrew characters (vowel pointings) in WP Date: 25 Sep 1997 16:00:44 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60e1rc$aci$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anyone knows how to get WP to do Hebrew vowel pointings, please let me know. Thanks. This message will self-destruct tomorrow, since that is when my last paper is due. And then life will be good. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
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From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Powerpoint files ? Date: 25 Sep 1997 17:50:54 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <60e89u$aod$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greetings, Is there a way to open / view / edit powerpoint (windows, recent version) slides with NS apps ? Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) -------------------------------------------------------
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: This is a must visit site! Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 14:53:23 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg148392.thr-96ed6e9f.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <342a6ca1.1@news.together.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg148392.thr-96ed6e9f.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> webmaster@webvermont.com,UseNet writes: >Check out this site! (I think that should be check out this lousy SPAM). As a Vermonter, I am completely disgusted that another Vermonter would stoop to spamming newsgroups, particularly when the pages in question are virtually useless and show a very poor command of English. Selected quotations from your site: "This site was created for Vermonters to check out what is going on in there home town, and for people around the world that would like to learn more about Vermont, where to stay, eat, what to do, and what's fun and new!! _there_ home town? In my home town _here_ we generally talk about "their home town there..." "WEB Designs of VERMONT is dedicated to serve businesses of all sizes with superior service, consultation, and desire to strive in the rapidly changing market place. Our goal is to keep interests of all internal and external stakeholders at the top of our list. " And "desire to strive?" Excuse me? "The internet is the most advancing advertising and marking tool to ever. So why the internet for your business? Have you ever seen these?" What on earth do you mean by "the most advancing advertising...?" "We do not set a standard price for web page and site design. We offer the most professional service, so a standard price would not be fair to someone that wants a smaller or bigger product than the standard one. How we do business at WEB Designs of VERMONT is to find out what your marketing needs are. We will try to put together the best internet advertising package in the interest of your prospective customers. So if you only wanted a very basic page, you would only pay for a very basic page! We can tell you that all of our rates are the most competitive we have seen. " I think I've figured this out. Actually WebVermont is based in Moscow (and apparently is a "dating" service), and you're running your text through BillyBob Pachenko's Most Excellent Russian to English Translation Engine (tm). Please stop tarnishing Vermont's reputation by demonstrating the same primitive intelligence as the rest of the spamming scum on the planet. -- David D. Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology voice: (802)443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 fax: (802)443-2053
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TheShelf.app is cool Date: 25 Sep 1997 18:41:40 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60eb94$aci$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Every now and again an app comes out that just says ``Use me, I'm a cool utility''. Fiend is one. LaunchBar is another. TheShelf is the latest one. It is in early stages, and only works for OpenStep (you can read more about it in the README ... http://www.peak.org/openstep/new_arrivals/TheShelf.0.3.3a.README is the newest one). But I really like it. It gives you a tabbed shelf at the bottom of the screen which pops up when you move the mouse down to it. You get one for ``processes'' (running apps) one for apps (like a dock extender), documents, a `temporary' one, and one for the console. Anyway, it's a neat little freeware app, and if you're running OpenStep, you might want to check it out. I think it's neat. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole) Subject: Re: Powerpoint files ? Message-ID: <EH2w4A.J49@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <60e89u$aod$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:14:34 GMT >Greetings, > >Is there a way to open / view / edit powerpoint (windows, recent >version) slides with NS apps ? Concurrent (and a companion program C2convertor) from Lighthouse Design attempts to convert powerpoint slides (i.e., a conversion panel comes up when you double-click on a *.ppt file). Unfortunately, on the two occasions I tried this I had no success. Anyone else have any luck with powerpoint slides in Concurrent? --- Lars A. Stole University of Chicago, GSB 1101 E. 58th Street Chicago, IL 60637 U.S.A.
From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: pine & Mac NCSA telnet Date: 25 Sep 1997 22:03:58 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <60en4e$gv8@agate.berkeley.edu> Hello there, I have problems with a user of pine (3.96) who frequently uses Mac NCSA telnet program (2.6) to login. The machine is running NeXTSTEP 3.3 patch 1 for Intel. The problems are 1. In "compose" menu of pine, typing in the mail address followed by a "return" key puts user into "attach a file" submenu as same as hitting "Cntrl-J". 2. In the message body, "return" key doesn't change the line. On display it changes the line but on second "return" key hit, it justifies everything back into a single line. These never happens if the user logged in to console and using pine in Terminal.app or logging in from a SGI. I guess this is related to the terminal setting in login files. The user is using NeXTSTEP 3.3 default login files and csh. Any help or suggestion are welcome. Thanks a lot! --- Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP: pine & Mac NCSA telnet Date: 25 Sep 1997 23:36:42 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60esia$6nr$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <60en4e$gv8@agate.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu In <60en4e$gv8@agate.berkeley.edu> Satoru Uzawa wrote: > These never happens if the user logged in to console and using pine > in Terminal.app or logging in from a SGI. I guess this is related to the > terminal setting in login files. The user is using NeXTSTEP 3.3 default > login files and csh. Any help or suggestion are welcome. Thanks a lot! try 'stty -extproc' at the commandline. It fixes a whole host of problems, maybe this is one of them: -extproc process characters external to the terminal driver. This option is used when there is a loss of characters or improper handling of special characters (e.g., carriage returns and line feeds) during a telnet(1C) session from a non-NEXTSTEP local host to a NEXTSTEP remote host. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
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From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <60f5s4$3iv@news.onramp.net> Date: 26 Sep 1997 03:17:42 GMT Control: cancel <60f5s4$3iv@news.onramp.net> Message-ID: <cancel.60f5s4$3iv@news.onramp.net> Sender: Darren Vader<sales@dotcom-xpress.net> Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: salvo@transport.com (Marc Salvatori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: netinfod too chatty? Date: 26 Sep 1997 05:32:23 GMT Organization: Brittania Sportswear, LTD Message-ID: <60fhd7$soo$1@news.transport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ever since I began using an Ascend Pipeline 50 router for ISDN purposes, system boot always triggers an ISP connection. I'm fairly certain that netinfod is the root cause because restarting netinfod also causes an ISP connect. I'm using OS4.0 with local.nibd as the master. It seems that netinfod is broadcasting to the local net. Is there a way to constrain this?
From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powerpoint files ? Date: 26 Sep 1997 08:28:53 GMT Organization: GMD-FOKUS Message-ID: <60fro5$i8c@stern.fokus.gmd.de> References: <60e89u$aod$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Antoine Gautier writes > Greetings, > > Is there a way to open / view / edit powerpoint (windows, recent version) > slides with NS apps ? > In the recent version of Concurrence (2.77) you'll find in the Help system: "In early versions of Concurrence 2.0, only files created in PowerPoint for the Macintosh are recognized. In later releases, we will be adding compatibility for other presentation applications, including those for the Windows version of PowerPoint." Because MS don't have compatible versions of PowerPoint for Mac and Windows, Windows users have tough luck. Robert -- --- - .-. -- -- --- / \ ---- Robert Fischer .-. / \ --- .-. __o .-. @ / \ / \ / \ _`\<,_ / \ GMD-Fokus / \ / \ / \ (*)/ (*) / `-------------- / `---' `-' `-----------'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Opener.app for Solaris? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EH0v03.2Av@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 16:55:14 GMT References: <34222D03.6D8532F7@eso.org> <606kfn$g5k$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <606kfn$g5k$1@nntp2.ba.best.com>, Denise Howard <deniseh@best.NOSPAM.com> wrote: >The current version of Opener on the archives was compiled quad-fat, which >means that your installation options include the NeXTSTEP-Solaris version >of the executable. This should run just fine under OpenStep-Solaris. > HUH?!?!?? Quad-FAT for Sun means that it will run under NeXTSTEP for SPARC (or OPENSTEP for Mach for SPARC), *NOT* OPENSTEP for Solaris. Solaris doesn't know what to do with a mach-o file. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vrotney@netcom.com (William Paul Vrotney) Subject: OmniWeb.app quits Message-ID: <vrotneyEH405v.8C1@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:39:30 GMT Sender: vrotney@netcom20.netcom.com OmniWeb just quits immediately when launched. I have NeXTstation with NS 3.2. The NeXTstation is not connected to the Internet, I only want to use OmniWeb to read HTML files. I down-loaded the advertised free version of OmniWeb for NeXT black: OmniWeb-2.5-N.tar.gz Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? Thanks. -- William P. Vrotney - vrotney@netcom.com
From: tartavel@asi.fr (Daniel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Taylor UUCP Date: 26 Sep 97 13:41:22 +0100 Organization: Acces et Solutions Internet - Web: www.asi.fr Message-ID: <151.7208T821T1124@asi.fr> Hi all Anyone can tell me where I can find Taylor UUCP please ? Thanx <tsb> <sb> FLYx <sb> A4000-60/80Mo/PicassoIV/ZIP/CDROM2x <tsb>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Configure.app Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EGvyvy.otx@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 01:31:10 GMT References: <Pine.HPP.3.96.970920161208.6884A-100000@arthur.avalon.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <Pine.HPP.3.96.970920161208.6884A-100000@arthur.avalon.net>, Callsign Enzo <gansen@arthur.avalon.net> wrote: >Upon installation of NS User 3.3, my Configure.app file cannot be started >because it is damaged. > Are you on black? If so Configure.app isn't needed--don't worry about it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powerpoint files ? Date: 26 Sep 1997 15:14:14 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <60gjg6$aod$2@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <60e89u$aod$1@athena.ulaval.ca> <EH2w4A.J49@midway.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu In <EH2w4A.J49@midway.uchicago.edu> Lars A. Stole wrote: % Concurrent (and a companion program C2convertor) from Lighthouse % Design attempts to convert powerpoint slides (i.e., a conversion % panel comes up when you double-click on a *.ppt file). % Unfortunately, on the two occasions I tried this I had no success. % Anyone else have any luck with powerpoint slides in Concurrent? It only claims to work with mac ppt files. Antoine
From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TheShelf.app is cool Date: 26 Sep 1997 16:18:51 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <60gn9b$1qgg@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> References: <60eb94$aci$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <60eb94$aci$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > > Every now and again an app comes out that just says ``Use me, I'm a cool > utility''. > > Fiend is one. LaunchBar is another. TheShelf is the latest one. > > It is in early stages, and only works for OpenStep (you can read more about > it in the README ... > http://www.peak.org/openstep/new_arrivals/TheShelf.0.3.3a.README is the > newest one). But I really like it. It gives you a tabbed shelf at the > bottom of the screen which pops up when you move the mouse down to it. You > get one for ``processes'' (running apps) one for apps (like a dock extender), > documents, a `temporary' one, and one for the console. > > Anyway, it's a neat little freeware app, and if you're running OpenStep, you > might want to check it out. I think it's neat. > The idea sounds cool. But I haven't been able to get it to run on my PPro with OS 4.2. I installed the MiscKit 2.05 and IconKit frameworks, but the application crashes after logging the IconKit version number to the console. Any ideas? Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb.app quits Date: 26 Sep 1997 16:50:05 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60gp3t$6nr$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <vrotneyEH405v.8C1@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: vrotney@netcom.com In <vrotneyEH405v.8C1@netcom.com> William Paul Vrotney wrote: > > OmniWeb just quits immediately when launched. I have NeXTstation with NS > 3.2. The NeXTstation is not connected to the Internet, I only want to use > OmniWeb to read HTML files. You need the FoundationUserPatch: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/patches/FoundationUserPatch.tar.gz You should also get a console watcher, because OmniWeb and other apps will often send diagnostic messages when they fail. I'd suggest FastConsole: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/FastConsole.1.01.NIHS.b.tar.gz TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: Denise Howard <deniseh@shell3.ba.best.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener.app for Solaris? Date: 26 Sep 1997 17:29:20 GMT Organization: Remove NOSPAM to reply Message-ID: <60grdg$ps5$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> References: <34222D03.6D8532F7@eso.org> <606kfn$g5k$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> <EH0v03.2Av@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: : In article <606kfn$g5k$1@nntp2.ba.best.com>, : Denise Howard <deniseh@best.NOSPAM.com> wrote: : >The current version of Opener on the archives was compiled quad-fat, which : >means that your installation options include the NeXTSTEP-Solaris version : >of the executable. This should run just fine under OpenStep-Solaris. : > : HUH?!?!?? Quad-FAT for Sun means that it will run under NeXTSTEP for SPARC : (or OPENSTEP for Mach for SPARC), *NOT* OPENSTEP for Solaris. Solaris doesn't : know what to do with a mach-o file. Oops, you're right--I mis-read the original posting. However, it should just be a matter of recompiling for the OS; Opener runs fine without even that under OpenStep/Mach. You'd need to recompile both the app and all the public-domain utilities which are included in it. There is an OpenStep/Solaris version, newly rewritten and OpenStep-ified, coming out any time now (Todd, are you listening?) I didn't have time to finish it so another dude is working on it. Denise -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: "Robert Barnett" <pcreview@sonic.net> Newsgroups: comp.software.testing,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.windows.garnet,comp.windows.interviews,comp.windows.misc Subject: PC-Review Online Site Update (9-26-97) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 97 22:43:21 GMT Organization: PC-Review Online Message-ID: <60hdmp$qp3$3@ultra.sonic.net> The PC-Review Online web site has been updated. We have added 7 new reviews including, U-lead iPhotoExpress, Adobe PhotoDeluxe 2.0, Lotus Smart Suite 97, U.S. Robotics Sportster X2 Famodem and more. We have also added some new links to the "Links" page. There are new images in the "Art Gallery" and there is a new Bryce 2 scene, as well as a new screen saver. http://www.sonic.net/pcreview Thanks, The Staff of PC-Review
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int%rauug.mil.wi.us@bofh.int> Newsgroups: comp.software.testing,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.windows.garnet,comp.windows.interviews,comp.windows.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <60hdmp$qp3$3@ultra.sonic.net> Control: cancel <60hdmp$qp3$3@ultra.sonic.net> Date: 26 Sep 1997 22:52:32 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.60hdmp$qp3$3@ultra.sonic.net> Sender: "Robert Barnett" <pcreview@sonic.net> My From: line has been fudged because many test newsgroup autoresponders respond to control messages. My apologies! Please see the X-Cancelled-By: line for my proper address. Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: leffert@cs.uchicago.edu (Jonathan B. Leffert) Subject: building gnumake 3.75 on OS 4.2 intel Message-ID: <EH50oB.KuH@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 22:48:10 GMT I've been trying to build GNU Make 3.75 on my OpenStep 4.2 Mach Intel box. It builds cleanly but if I install make and then try to use it to build other programs (or even itself) I get bus errors. Has anyone successfully built Make 3.75 under OpenStep and if so, what did you have to do? -j
From: jbf@frazer.com (James Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powerpoint files ? Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 00:56:49 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-2709970056490001@frazer.com> References: <60e89u$aod$1@athena.ulaval.ca> <EH2w4A.J49@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <EH2w4A.J49@midway.uchicago.edu>, lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole) wrote: > Concurrent (and a companion program C2convertor) from Lighthouse > Design attempts to convert powerpoint slides (i.e., a conversion > panel comes up when you double-click on a *.ppt file). > Unfortunately, on the two occasions I tried this I had no success. > Anyone else have any luck with powerpoint slides in Concurrent? Yes. Worked fine on reasonable presentations, barfed when fed a page with a giant bitmap. It was probably a Mac file, I just don't recall.
From: "Simon Giraudo" <giraudos@vianet.net.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Animation software for Openstep Date: 27 Sep 1997 13:53:13 GMT Organization: Customer of Connect.com.au P/L, Perth, Australia Message-ID: <01bccb4e$1d317780$76230dcb@lara> Hi, I would much prefer to create animations on Openstep an not NT or Win95. I realise that Toy Story is a Pixar Product but I am unsure of what software is use and if there are other products available. Any info would be appreciated. Simon
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Taylor UUCP Date: 27 Sep 1997 16:41:34 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EH4y29.4or@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <151.7208T821T1124@asi.fr> tartavel@asi.fr (Daniel) wrote: > Anyone can tell me where I can find Taylor UUCP please ? A not-too-hard-to-install precompiled distribution is at: ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next/UUCP/ Source can be found at the usual GNU archives: ASIA: ftp.cs.titech.ac.jp, tron.um.u-tokyo.ac.jp/pub/GNU/prep cair-archive.kaist.ac.kr/pub/gnu, ftp.nectec.or.th/pub/mirrors/gnu AUSTRALIA: archie.au/gnu (archie.oz or archie.oz.au for ACSnet) AFRICA: ftp.sun.ac.za/pub/gnu MIDDLE-EAST: ftp.technion.ac.il/pub/unsupported/gnu EUROPE: ftp.irisa.fr/pub/gnu, ftp.univ-lyon1.fr/pub/gnu, ftp.mcc.ac.uk, unix.hensa.ac.uk/mirrors/uunet/systems/gnu, src.doc.ic.ac.uk/gnu, ftp.ntua.gr/pub/gnu, ftp.ieunet.ie/pub/gnu, ftp.eunet.ch, sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/gnu, ftp.win.tue.nl/pub/gnu, ftp.nl.net, ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/gnu, ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de, ftp.germany.eu.net/packages/gnu, ftp.etsimo.uniovi.es/pub/gnu, ftp.funet.fi/pub/gnu, ftp.denet.dk, ftp.stacken.kth.se, isy.liu.se, ftp.luth.se/pub/unix/gnu, ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu, archive.eu.net SOUTH AMERICA: ftp.inf.utfsm.cl/pub/gnu, ftp.unicamp.br/pub/gnu WESTERN CANADA: ftp.cs.ubc.ca/mirror2/gnu USA: wuarchive.wustl.edu/systems/gnu, labrea.stanford.edu, ftp.digex.net/pub/gnu, ftp.kpc.com/pub/mirror/gnu, f.ms.uky.edu/pub3/gnu, jaguar.utah.edu/gnustuff, ftp.hawaii.edu/mirrors/gnu, uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/gnu, ftp.cs.columbia.edu/archives/gnu/prep, archive.cis.ohio-state.edu/pub/gnu, gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/GNU, ftp.uu.net/systems/gnu Latest version is 1.06.1. Hope this helps, Tom. -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.dev.null.nl> (work) __/__/__/ <<SPAMBLOCK: remove .dev.null to reply>> __/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need secure proxy Web server for OS 4.1/Mach/NeXT Date: 27 Sep 1997 22:01:24 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <60jvnk$a26@mochi.lava.net> My CERN w3c-httpd_3.0 doesn't understand secure Web connections and bombs whenever a secure connection is required. I need to be able to use a secure connection with InternetExplorer. Can someone recommend an easy-go-configure, free proxy Web server that understand secure connections? Where can I get it? Will it build under OS 4.1/Mach or is a binary available? Thanks! -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
From: Denise Howard <deniseh@shell3.ba.best.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation software for Openstep Date: 28 Sep 1997 00:31:11 GMT Organization: Remove NOSPAM to reply Message-ID: <60k8gf$fqv$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> References: <01bccb4e$1d317780$76230dcb@lara> Simon Giraudo <giraudos@vianet.net.au> wrote: : Hi, : I would much prefer to create animations on Openstep an not NT or Win95. I : realise that Toy Story is a Pixar Product but I am unsure of what software : is use and if there are other products available. : Any info would be appreciated. : Simon : -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: ~eseale~@enteract.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep 4 on Intel / Boot Disk Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 05:13:09 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <60khcc$7em@eve.enteract.com> someone i know just got an olde openstep preview release. he said he need a boot disk to install it on his pc. any idea how he can get one. thanks -eric
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <12335874814429@digifix.com> Date: 28 Sep 1997 03:48:51 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <27562875419231@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Mon-Sen Yang <myast2+@pitt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q:Installing NeXTStep 3.3. on Gateway 2000 model G6-233 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 02:59:42 -0400 Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96L.970928025555.24288A-100000@unixs3.cis.pitt.edu> References: <342964B6.42C3967B@fresnel.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "F.J.Herrmann" <felix@fresnel.stanford.edu> In-Reply-To: <342964B6.42C3967B@fresnel.stanford.edu> Did you change adaptec's jumper? From what I remembered, adaptec SCSI card has to be in default IRQ=5, IO=330 or somewhere around this. In addition, is your CD-ROM SCSI or IDE?? If it's IDE, you have to chain it on IDE0, slave. Just a through, if it doesn't work, don't kill me for this :> Batmon On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, F.J.Herrmann wrote: > For a long time I have been trying to bring to live a Quantum fireball > SCSI 3.2 GB harddisk on a Gateway 2000 model G6-233. The hardware > specifcs are: > > Pentium II 233 MHz > > adaptec 2940 ultra SCSI adapter >
From: tfu@bigfoot.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb.app quits Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 18:55:24 GMT Organization: Smoke'n Joy - The first virtual crematory Message-ID: <1997Sep27.185524.556@online.de> References: <vrotneyEH405v.8C1@netcom.com> <60gp3t$6nr$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nospam@all.please In <60gp3t$6nr$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > You should also get a console watcher, because OmniWeb and other apps will > often send diagnostic messages when they fail. I'd suggest FastConsole: > > ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/FastConsole.1.01.NIHS.b.tar.gz > What is the difference to a simple tail -f /tmp/console.log ??
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From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb.app quits Date: 28 Sep 1997 18:34:45 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60m805$lgn$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <vrotneyEH405v.8C1@netcom.com> <60gp3t$6nr$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <1997Sep27.185524.556@online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tfu@bigfoot.com In <1997Sep27.185524.556@online.de> Thomas F. Unke wrote: > In <60gp3t$6nr$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > > You should also get a console watcher, because OmniWeb and other apps will > > often send diagnostic messages when they fail. I'd suggest FastConsole: > > > ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/FastConsole.1.01.NIHS.b.tar.gz > > > > What is the difference to a simple > > tail -f /tmp/console.log What's the difference between /NextApps/Mail.app/Mail and /usr/ucb/Mail? FastConsole is different because: 1) it doesn't require the user to use a Terminal shell and know about the 'tail' command 2) it allows filtering 3) it pops up on input, rather than having to be always somewhere in the background Yes, 'tail' will do the same thing. There's also a console watcher built into Workspace Manager. FastConsole.app and others just make it a lot easier to follow what is going on. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
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From: "Ron Green, Jr." <rgreen@firstnethou.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HP LaserJet 4M and NEXTSTEP 3.3 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 16:18:14 -0500 Organization: FirstNet Message-ID: <342EC996.4BE683EA@firstnethou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm trying to get my HP LaserJet 4M to work as a stand alone printer with my Intel computer running NEXTSTEP 3.3. I checked out the FAQ and it says that I need to re-wire my serial cable. Can anyone tell if this is absolutely necessary or if there might be another possibility. Thanks in advance, Ron Green
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:21:45 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: Animation software for Openstep Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <875503212.23723@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service Simon Giraudo <_giraudos@vianet.net.au_> wrote: > : Hi, > > : I would much prefer to create animations on Openstep an not > NT or Win95. I : realise that Toy Story is a Pixar Product > but I am unsure of what software : is use and if there are > other products available. > > : Any info would be appreciated. > > : Simon For 2-D animation (ink and paint, compositing, vector animation) ANIMO runs on Nextstep (So it should run on anything up to Openstep 4.2) although it is not being ported to Rhapsody as far as I know. The progaram is in the $8K to $12K range. Get version 1.7 for the cool vectors which aren't in the newer Ax-Cel version. It is probably the best 2-D system out there and is being used for WB and Dreamworks new animated features. Check out http://www.animo.com You might also want to check out Solidthinking from Gestel for 3-D stuff. http://www.gestel.com I think. Hoops -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: marcel@system.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 4M and NEXTSTEP 3.3 Date: 29 Sep 1997 06:23:30 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <60nhh2$q12$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <342EC996.4BE683EA@firstnethou.com> In article <342EC996.4BE683EA@firstnethou.com> "Ron Green, Jr." <rgreen@firstnethou.com> writes: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get my HP LaserJet 4M to work as a stand alone printer > with my Intel computer running NEXTSTEP 3.3. I checked out the FAQ and > it says that I need to re-wire my serial cable. Can anyone tell if this > is absolutely necessary or if there might be another possibility. On Intel, a standard parallel cable should work just fine. Marcel
From: Eren_Kotan@REMOVETOREPLY.apple.com (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb.app quits Date: 29 Sep 1997 10:43:03 GMT Organization: NeXT/Apple European Professional Services Message-ID: <60o0nn$e9m$1@news2.apple.com> References: <vrotneyEH405v.8C1@netcom.com> Cc: vrotney@netcom.com In <vrotneyEH405v.8C1@netcom.com> William Paul Vrotney wrote: > > OmniWeb just quits immediately when launched. I have NeXTstation with NS > 3.2. The NeXTstation is not connected to the Internet, I only want to use > OmniWeb to read HTML files. > > I down-loaded the advertised free version of OmniWeb for NeXT black: > > OmniWeb-2.5-N.tar.gz > > Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? Thanks. OmniWeb needs the Foundation library which isn't in 3.2. You should either upgrade to 3.3 or find and install the Foundation library package. I think it was on the EOF CD, and it may even be in NeXTanswers or Peanuts somewhere. Good luck, Eren -- Eren Kotan The best friend money can buy. Can you imagine a world with no hypothetical questions? Apple Enterprise Professional Services - http://enterprise.apple.com/
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TheShelf.app is cool Date: 29 Sep 1997 11:19:29 GMT Organization: "private site" Message-ID: <60o2s1$22l@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> References: <60eb94$aci$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60gn9b$1qgg@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 (FinalNews for NeXTstep; Version 0.32 / Jul 13, 1997) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Alex Levine wrote in <60gn9b$1qgg@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> on 1997-09-26 18:18:51 +0200: > The idea sounds cool. But I haven't been able to get it to run on my PPro > with OS 4.2. I installed the MiscKit 2.05 and IconKit frameworks, but the > application crashes after logging the IconKit version number to the > console. Any ideas? I had the same problems. Get the latest version 0.3.3a and the precompiled IconKit and MiscKit. Then it should work. --- Juergen _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: building gnumake 3.75 on OS 4.2 intel Date: 29 Sep 1997 13:10:23 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <60o9bv$77o@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <EH50oB.KuH@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <EH50oB.KuH@midway.uchicago.edu> leffert@cs.uchicago.edu (Jonathan B. Leffert) writes: > I've been trying to build GNU Make 3.75 on my OpenStep 4.2 Mach Intel box. > It builds cleanly but if I install make and then try to use it to build > other programs (or even itself) I get bus errors. Use the gnumake v3.74 that comes with OpenStep (/bin/gnumake), and you'll be a lot happier. I've got gnumake to (kinda) work without bus errors, but it occasionally behaves strangly and fails to function. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PGCC: has anyone compiled it? Date: 29 Sep 1997 15:43:00 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <60oia4$lh1$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have heard that there are difficulties in compatibility between gcc >= 2.7 and NS 4.1. PGCC: has anyone compiled it for NEXTSTEP 4.1? I'm running a PPro. I don't have time at the moment to install gcc (the version which came with the distribution is 2.5.8!) let alone pgcc. Just wondering if anyone has pgcc or gcc >= 2.7 binaries knocking about that are compatible with NEXTSTEP 4.1? -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: MIME & NeXT Mail OK.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb.app quits Date: 29 Sep 1997 15:58:27 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60oj73$r10$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <vrotneyEH405v.8C1@netcom.com> <60o0nn$e9m$1@news2.apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <60o0nn$e9m$1@news2.apple.com> Eren Kotan wrote: > OmniWeb needs the Foundation library which isn't in 3.2. You should either > upgrade to 3.3 or find and install the Foundation library package. I think it > was on the EOF CD, and it may even be in NeXTanswers or Peanuts somewhere. I can't remember if I posted to this thread already or whether I'm just remembering the last time it was asked You can get the patch from here http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/2117.compressed or here z or here 3.3/2117_FoundationUserPatch.pkg.compressed I recommend the one on PEAK because it is compressed using gzip rather than '.compressed' which is just .tar.Z with a non-standard name that NeXT made up for reasons which still escape me but someone said it isn't quite the same in some technical difference that I still can't recall. -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: "Ron Green, Jr." <rgreen@firstnethou.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 4M and NEXTSTEP 3.3 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:26:56 -0500 Organization: FirstNet Message-ID: <34301D20.288F7942@firstnethou.com> References: <342EC996.4BE683EA@firstnethou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to everyone who replied. As several people suggested, the simple way to do this is simply use the parallel port. Thanks again, Ron
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From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help: pico and Mac NCSA Telnet Program Date: 30 Sep 1997 01:25:06 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <60pkdi$m8g@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi all, Few days ago I posted under the similar title :). The problem with pine was actually caused by the behaviour of pico. Here is the problem I have. The Mac NCSA telned program sends "Ctrl-J" for "Carriage Return" and "/usr/bin/pico" (ver. 2.3) in NeXTSTEP 3.3 uses "Ctrl-J" for "Justify" function. I modified the source code of pico, recompiled and using it for the user who logs in with Mac NCSA telned program. But this is definitely not a permanent solution for the problem. My question is, "Is there any way to configure either Mac Telnet program or .login file to send/receive "carriage return" properly? Thanks for helps and advices. Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
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From: elizondo@axone.u-strasbg.fr (David ELIZONDO) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: french spell checker Date: 30 Sep 1997 08:59:46 GMT Organization: CIRIL, Nancy, France Message-ID: <60qf22$9gu$1@arcturus.ciril.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi there, I was wondering if anybody knew of a place where I can find a spell checker for the french language that runs under NeXT. Thanks in advance. David -- David Elizondo PhD Universite Louis Pasteur 7 rue Rene Descartes 67084 Strasbourg Cedex FRANCE email elizondo@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr
From: Timothy J. Luoma <nospam@all.please> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: french spell checker Date: 30 Sep 1997 14:06:46 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <60r11m$np1$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <60qf22$9gu$1@arcturus.ciril.fr> In-Reply-To: <60qf22$9gu$1@arcturus.ciril.fr> On 09/30/97, David ELIZONDO wrote: > >Hi there, > I was wondering if anybody knew of a place where I can find a >spell checker for the french language that runs under NeXT. Well, we have one: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/educational/NeXT_French_Dictiona ry.3.1.08.I.bs.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/educational/NeXT_French_Dictiona ry.3.1.08.README which is also on peanuts: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Unix/text/NeXT_French_Dictionary.3.1.08 .I.bs.tar.gz ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Unix/text/NeXT_French_Dictionary.3.1.08 .README It is Intel only, but it has source code. If you need another version but lack dev tools let me know and I'll give it a whirl. TjL
From: eharley@pacbell.net (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: help: pico and Mac NCSA Telnet Program Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 07:16:18 -0800 Organization: Harley Consulting Message-ID: <eharley-3009970716190001@ppp-207-214-149-52.snrf01.pacbell.net> References: <60pkdi$m8g@agate.berkeley.edu> > Few days ago I posted under the similar title :). The problem with pine was > actually caused by the behaviour of pico. Here is the problem I have. > > The Mac NCSA telned program sends "Ctrl-J" for "Carriage Return" and > "/usr/bin/pico" (ver. 2.3) in NeXTSTEP 3.3 uses "Ctrl-J" for "Justify" > function. I modified the source code of pico, recompiled and using it for > the user who logs in with Mac NCSA telned program. But this is definitely > not a permanent solution for the problem. > > My question is, "Is there any way to configure either Mac Telnet program or > .login file to send/receive "carriage return" properly? Thanks for helps and > advices. Try finding a copy of Nifty Telnet. Its the greatest Mac telnet program and Im sure that you can redo the keymappings in it. Eric Harley eharley@pacbell.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Medicine will cure death and government will repeal taxes before Steve will fail." -Guy Kawasaki (Fall 1991)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:23:10 -0600 From: MacGeeks@hotmail.com Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: Rhapsody Developer Survey Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <875628167.1489@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service Greetings, We're compiling a list of Rhapsody Developers and their applications. If you or your company is porting from Mac OS or NeXTSTEP to Rhapsody, we'd like to hear from you. Please include: Full company name Street or other mailing address Toll-free, Phone, Fax and Email contact info Web site, FTP site, if you have one along with full URL path to any Demo versions you may have. Current products and platform (Mac OS or NeXT), which products will be ported to Rhapsody, anticipated ship date(s), and current pricing info (single user, site license and educational pricing) for each product. Description of new products developed specifically for Rhapsody Minimum Required vs. Recommended RAM and HD space for each of these products under Rhapsody, along with anticipated pricing, if known. Send this info to us at: MacGeeks@hotmail.com Thanks! -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Rhapsody Developer Survey Date: 30 Sep 1997 15:58:19 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60r7ir$bc0$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <875628167.1489@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: MacGeeks@hotmail.com In <875628167.1489@dejanews.com> MacGeeks@hotmail.com wrote: > Greetings, > > We're compiling a list of Rhapsody Developers and their applications. > If you or your company is porting from Mac OS or NeXTSTEP to Rhapsody, > we'd like to hear from you. Are developers who received the Rhapsody CD under NDAs? If not I am surprised we have not heard more from them. Announcements like yours are off-topic for this newsgroup. They should be sent to ``next-announce@digifix.com'' for posting on comp.sys.next.announce. Please read http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html to see what the various NeXT newsgroups are meant to contain. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Rhapsody Developer Survey Date: 30 Sep 1997 19:04:37 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <60rig5$7h3$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <875628167.1489@dejanews.com> <60r7ir$bc0$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: >Are developers who received the Rhapsody CD under NDAs? If not I am >surprised we have not heard more from them. > Yes. Rudy. blazek@stt.msu.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Rhapsody Developer Survey Date: 30 Sep 1997 20:09:13 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <60rm99$e7l$1@news.digifix.com> References: <875628167.1489@dejanews.com> <60r7ir$bc0$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In-Reply-To: <60r7ir$bc0$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> On 09/30/97, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: >In <875628167.1489@dejanews.com> MacGeeks@hotmail.com wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> We're compiling a list of Rhapsody Developers and their applications. >> If you or your company is porting from Mac OS or NeXTSTEP to Rhapsody, >> we'd like to hear from you. > >Are developers who received the Rhapsody CD under NDAs? If not I am >surprised we have not heard more from them. > >Announcements like yours are off-topic for this newsgroup. They should be >sent to ``next-announce@digifix.com'' for posting on comp.sys.next.announce. > >Please read http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html to see >what the various NeXT newsgroups are meant to contain. Actually this was just posted to comp.sys.next.announce, and since its also here, it won't be in announce. However, this message sent of loads of warning flags, since it uses hotmail and lists no organization or such that I've ever heard of. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: help: pico and Mac NCSA Telnet Program Date: 30 Sep 1997 21:07:16 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Sep30160902@slave.doubleu.com> References: <60pkdi$m8g@agate.berkeley.edu> In-reply-to: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu's message of 30 Sep 1997 01:25:06 GMT In article <60pkdi$m8g@agate.berkeley.edu>, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) writes: The Mac NCSA telned program sends "Ctrl-J" for "Carriage Return" and "/usr/bin/pico" (ver. 2.3) in NeXTSTEP 3.3 uses "Ctrl-J" for "Justify" function. I modified the source code of pico, recompiled and using it for the user who logs in with Mac NCSA telned program. But this is definitely not a permanent solution for the problem. My question is, "Is there any way to configure either Mac Telnet program or .login file to send/receive "carriage return" properly? I was unable to duplicate your problem using telnet to localhost, but... I was able to cause a similar problem. When I did "man ascii" from a shell window, I could scroll by line using C-m or C-j (carriage return and linefeed, respectively). When I did "man ascii" from a telnet withing the same shell window, I couldn't scroll single lines with C-m. If I did "stty -extproc" within the telnet connection, I got back the expected behaviour for C-m with man-page scrolling. Might not mean anything, of course. Check the -extproc section in "man stty". Sounds close enough to be worth a try, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
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