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From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LZH file Date: 31 Jul 1997 00:34:26 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <5romii$ikr@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <5rffic$faf@ustsu10.ust.hk> jesse@ustsu3.ust.hk (Jesse Hau) wrote: > >Can anyone tell me how can i open an lzh file? > >i got a lharc.exe program, but in winzip, it also siad that i havnt got this >kind of program, why? > > >Jesse As others stated already, Opener.app does the job. Just for ones who love command line in terminal app or who wants to un-archive stuff remotely; UNIX program for dealing with lzh archives is "LHa" written by Masaru Oki You can find the source code in common Unix archie sites like ftp.ee.ualberta.ca, /pub/HP48/archivers/unix/lharc_1.03a.tar.Z Or within Opener.app wrapper :) The source compiles without any major problem but the man page is written in Japanese! Have fun! --- Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Transfer display? Date: 31 Jul 1997 02:23:18 GMT Organization: 21st Century Software, New York City Sender: daver@ts3-3.nj.cnct.com Message-ID: <5rosum$bbh$4@darla.visi.com> References: <5rnpmd$lpe$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Jul 1997 21:23:18 CDT Cc: lewandow@u.arizona.edu In <5rnpmd$lpe$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Christopher J Lewandowski-pearson wrote: > Is there anyway to transfer the display from a X-windows system to the > cube? (I'm on a TCP/IP network). I tried to find xhost, but could not. You will need either a shareware or commercial X server. The NeXT's display is not X based, but X servers can run on it. You'll be able to find the shareware servers and demos of the commercial servers at ftp://ftp.evolution.com:/pub/next/X11/. I personally recommend CubXWindow, it's a fast and very complete package, though expensive. HTH Dave -- :: d a v i d y o u n g ::::: smtp dwy@ace.net http www.ace.net :: :: "I graduated from the school of ruckus." -- Wyclef Jean :::::::
From: me_!SPAM_@traveler.uniscape.com (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: popper Date: 30 Jul 1997 10:30:50 GMT Organization: e-Scape Information Systems Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5rn54q$ies$1@news.e-scape.net> References: <5risv4$chu@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: daj@nwu.edu Hello Try qpopper from http://www.eudora.com/freeware/servers.html I compiled it for OpenStep 4.1, to see if it compiles. But I have not used it on OpenStep 4.1, mostly on Solaris and FreeBSD stef In <5risv4$chu@news.acns.nwu.edu> daj@nwu.edu wrote: > I'm looking for pop3d for OpenStep. > > The source I have will not compile under OpenStep Developer 4.1. Is there a binary version (precompiled) available anywhere? Is there source for Openstep? > > Thank's in advance, > > David A. Johnson > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefanos Kiakas stefanos_!SPAM_@uniscape.com Remove _!SPAM_ to email me. e-Scape Travel Magazine http://www.uniscape.com/ e-Scape Information Systems Inc. (514) 878-1084
From: atarid@themall.net (Atarid Industries, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Chunked Program? Date: 31 Jul 1997 04:25:07 GMT Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5rp433$jbf@bolivia.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently received a software program which was developed for an older version of NS for Black/Intel ~3.1 or so. The program has the following extension ".pkg.compressed_0.chunk" and I am not sure how to install it. Any help with this would be appreciated. S.I.
From: atarid@themall.net (Atarid Industries, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Chunked Program? Date: 31 Jul 1997 05:42:05 GMT Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5rp8jd$88q@suriname.earthlink.net> References: <5rp433$jbf@bolivia.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: atarid@themall.net In <5rp433$jbf@bolivia.earthlink.net> Atarid Industries, Inc. wrote: > I recently received a software program which was developed for an older > version of NS for Black/Intel ~3.1 or so. The program has the following > extension ".pkg.compressed_0.chunk" and I am not sure how to install it. > > Any help with this would be appreciated. > > S.I. Forgot to mention that I have NS 3.3 on Black Hardware.
From: jking@incentre.net (Joseph A. King) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: More multi-boot problems Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:33:25 GMT Organization: Oz New Media Inc. Message-ID: <33e02de2.463207@news.v-wave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently installed OpenStep into a new partition on a 2 Gig drive. Prior to installation there were two partitions: a FAT partition on which resided Windows 95 and an Extended DOS partition on which resided NT 4.0 Workstation. Into the Free space went OpenStep 4.2. After installation of OpenStep 4.2 I get the NeXT boot prompt. Hit 'n' you get into OpenStep just fine. Hit 'd' you get into DOS just fine (hit anything else and it freezes). In DOS (I assume its DOS) I'm given the Microsoft boot manager menu: Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Workstation Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Workstation (VGA) Microsoft Windows Choose Windows and Win 95 boots fine. Choose NT and NT Detect does its thing, the screen clears and the OSLoader for NT begins and fails. It fails on its first file <winnt root>\system 32\winntkrnl (or something like that, sorry). Says the file cannot be found or is corrupted, please replace. NT Emergency disk? Kick me, but I'm already sore. Any suggestions? jking.
From: bhurle1@umbc.edu (hurley bryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What hardware needed for Prelude to Rhapsody? Date: 30 Jul 1997 19:51:16 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <5rok1k$94m@umbc8.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: unknown I am wondering what hardware is needed to run the prelude to rhapsody cd? IDE/SCSI? getting it tommorrow and want to be ready. thanks bryan
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Info] more NeXT style icons Date: 31 Jul 1997 14:43:13 GMT Organization: ppai News Message-ID: <5rq8a1$1s7$2@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi~ If you want more NeXT, Mac, BeBox style icons, Here are my collections. Also my edtions included. ppai_Icon_1.tar.Z ~ ppai_Icon_9.tar.Z ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/ ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/ You will be like it. Maybe.. If you feel so pretty, Please send me mail with message "Very Good !" ^.^ Note: It should move to "ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/graphics/icons/" and "ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/" directory. Thanks, younghoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail and MIME mail OK) redjade@bbs.para.co.kr (Large size NeXTMail and MIME mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai /qa (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody Q&A & Info Board written in Korean) (We have 3,500 web pages about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP and Rhapsody) (Also you can sentiment my gallery made with NeXT and PowerMac)
From: Rebecca <beccaray@geocities.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to use Tandberg SCSI tape with Black 3.2 ? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:30:38 -0400 Organization: Skidmore College Message-ID: <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I have a Tandberg 250 meg SCSI tape drive that is being unusable with my turbo color station. Any suggestions on how to get it to work. I know there is a way becasue I've used it before, but the script that set it up got eaten in the Hard Drive crash. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Peace, James
From: atarid@themall.net (Atarid Industries, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Chunked Program? Date: 31 Jul 1997 16:59:34 GMT Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5rqg9m$lbc@argentina.earthlink.net> References: <5rp433$jbf@bolivia.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: atarid@themall.net Hi All! I wish to express my deep appreciation for all those who responded and were kind enough to explain that all I needed to do was put the first disk in the floppy drive and then copy it to the hard drive and then the software would do the rest by requesting the other disks which are part of the multi-volume. I tried using Digital Librarian to find references to this and even searched in the "bin", etc. & dev directories. I even went to the Terminal.app and tried to do a "man" search for chunk which produced nothing. Doing all of this, I could find nothing helpful. I thought this would be something that Opener.app recognized or the Folder Inspector of the Workspace tools could help. Opener.app did not recognize this and while the Folder Inspector recognize what this was, it did not offer any suggestion for an action. After trying all of these, I was a bit baffled about what to do. What I forgot to search, until after I received help all you kind folks who replied instructing me on how this is done and I performed this, is the Workspace Help Panel. This contains a full explanation too about what action to take. I often forget just how helpful the on-line documentation can be. Thank all of you again. S.I.
From: Eren_Kotan@apple.com (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: More multi-boot problems Date: 31 Jul 1997 17:09:05 GMT Organization: NeXT/Apple European Professional Services Message-ID: <5rqgrh$n4e$1@news2.apple.com> References: <33e02de2.463207@news.v-wave.com> Cc: jking@incentre.net In <33e02de2.463207@news.v-wave.com> Joseph A. King wrote: > Choose NT and NT Detect does its thing, the screen clears and the > OSLoader for NT begins and fails. It fails on its first file <winnt > root>\system 32\winntkrnl (or something like that, sorry). Says the > file cannot be found or is corrupted, please replace. > > NT Emergency disk? Kick me, but I'm already sore. > > Any suggestions? Oooh, many brave multi-OS installers have fallen for this one. So don't feel bad about it, you're not alone. :) This is why it is happening: When you installed OPENSTEP, it created a new partition on your disk, which was previously free space. This screws up NT's booter, which keeps track of which partition number on which disk NT should be booted from. Here is how to fix this: Boot into DOS/Win95, and edit the boot.ini file which will be inside the root directory of your C: drive. This file is set to be read only, so you'll have to make it readable first, by using the DOS attrib command, or via Windows Explorer's File Properties dialog. Then open the file in Notepad, and increase the "partition(x)" number by one: Example: default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINNT400 [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINNT400="Windows NT Workstation Version 4.00" ... Change this to read: default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINNT400 [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINNT400="Windows NT Workstation Version 4.00" ... Save the file and reboot. You don't need to set it to be read only, though you can, if you want. That should fix it! Regards, Eren -- Eren Kotan - E-mail: Eren_Kotan@apple.com The best friend money can buy. Can you imagine a world with no hypothetical questions? Apple Enterprise Professional Services - http://enterprise.apple.com/
From: soonam@list.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MP3 player ? Date: 31 Jul 1997 16:15:08 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax,VA Message-ID: <5rqdmc$k2u@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you know how to play MP3 (MPEG 3) files with NeXT (Black) ? OS is NextStep3.3. thanks. <Soonam>
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From: Tom Vogl <tlvogl@collins.rockwell.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Serial Driver Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:01:44 -0500 Organization: Rockwell Collins AT&E Message-ID: <33D8CDE8.1E43@collins.rockwell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi EveryBody: I'm new to NeXt and trying to write a driver for a keypad, am short on time and am finding some basic questions. I'm trying to read from com port 2 and have drivers installed, but don't know where exactly it "lives". I've looked through some of the on-line documentation that said the com port may be on /dev/cu(f)[ab]. I've also found some other code that looks at tty00 and tty01. How can you find out / set where the ports "live"? I have some example (C) code for for a few drivers and would appreciate pointers to more information. Thanks in advance for any help. Tom Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MP3 player ? Date: 31 Jul 1997 21:39:15 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5rr0m3$ofg$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5rqdmc$k2u@portal.gmu.edu> Cc: soonam@list.gmu.edu In <5rqdmc$k2u@portal.gmu.edu> Soonam Kahng wrote: > > Do you know how to play MP3 (MPEG 3) files with NeXT (Black) ? > OS is NextStep3.3. > I am sure you mean MPEG I Layer 3 files... See http://www.this.net/~frank/ in the download area. It is a cmdline offline player (it renders firsts into a SND file for later playback), a m68k is too slow to render in realtime. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Paul Buckley <buckley4@idt.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Chunked Program? Date: 31 Jul 1997 23:47:19 GMT Organization: IDT Message-ID: <5rr867$sqj@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> References: <5rp433$jbf@bolivia.earthlink.net> <5rp8jd$88q@suriname.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <5rp8jd$88q@suriname.earthlink.net> On 07/30/97, Atarid Industries, Inc. wrote: >In <5rp433$jbf@bolivia.earthlink.net> Atarid Industries, Inc. wrote: >> I recently received a software program which was developed for an older >> version of NS for Black/Intel ~3.1 or so. The program has the following >> extension ".pkg.compressed_0.chunk" and I am not sure how to install it. >> >> Any help with this would be appreciated. >> >> S.I. > >Forgot to mention that I have NS 3.3 on Black Hardware. > > "chuck" is a program used to break large files up into diskette-size pieces. Type "chunk" in a terminal window and you get: Usage: chunk chunk_size [+first_chunk_pad] filename [dest_dir] In practice, this program is usually run by Workspace when a chunk file is encountered on a diskette or a too-big file is copied to diskette. A chunk file is not opened from the main disk by Workspace (although it does have its own icon). One chunk file implies another. Caution: the chunks are assembled in RAM so you have to have enough memory for the whole package. Once the chunks are assembled you will have a "compressed" package which will really be tar.Z by default unless the system preferences have been changed to use tar.gz. Workspace Inspector can initiate the uncompressing. -- _____________________________ Paul Buckley 515 W 59th St., Apt. 22K New York, NY 10019 E-mail: buckley4@idt.net Tel/Fax: 212-333-3382 _____________________________ Bernie Sanders: Does this concern you, the fact that we today have, by far, the most unequal distribution of wealth and income in the industrialized world? Alan Greenspan: Yes, the answer is it does concern me. It's not clear to me what monetary policy can do to alter that in any material way. In testimony before the House Banking Committee's Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy, March 5, 1997.
From: Windchaser <windchsr@cyberspace.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MP3 player ? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:05:09 -0500 Organization: ---------- Message-ID: <33E14455.5DFE1D7A@cyberspace.org> References: <5rqdmc$k2u@portal.gmu.edu> <5rr0m3$ofg$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank M. Siegert wrote: > I am sure you mean MPEG I Layer 3 files... > > See http://www.this.net/~frank/ in the download area. It is a cmdline offline > player (it renders firsts into a SND file for later playback), a m68k is too > slow to render in realtime. That's untrue. I was able to play .mp3 files on my Amiga 3000 030/50. The system slowed to a crawl, and multitasking was rough, but the sound was fine (well, as good as you can expect from the Amiga's sound hardware.) If an 030/50 with its audio hardware on a 7 MHz bus can handle it, surely a Turbo system could?
From: Ali Asad Lotia <lotia@toastman.us.itd.umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: befuddled new user Date: 1 Aug 1997 02:14:22 GMT Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <5rrgpu$b4q$2@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu> hello all, i am using a color turbo slab (ADB) and have been having problems getting the machine to run. i have (i think solved most of the hardware problems, however, i am still having quite a few difficulties. first of all, getting to the system monitor is quite a pain because my keyboard does not have the tilde key on the numeric keypad. it has a large command bar at the bottom of the keyboard and i do not always make it to the rom monitor, it takes several attempts and is a hit or miss system (using command+right alt key+tilde). i am a little lost regarding what "YP" refers to when the network stuff is starting up at boot booting in NS3.3, i have also been having problems configuring my machine for the net. my machine hangs while displaying "starting yp network" (or something like that) when booting after i have added the local settings to my host manager app. if anyone could let me know how to translate the terminologies for the host manager local configuration stuff, i would also be quite thankful,. i have the ip address, the router address, the name server addresses, can get the ethernet number for the card in the machine. i would appreciate an email at lotia@umich.edu, unfortunately NeXTMail is not an option... yet! thanks, ali asad lotia -- _____________________________________________________________________________ "It's better to be a pirate than to join the navy." --Steve Jobs -- off the AppleJedi website http://www.saracen.com:80/ajp1c.html _____________________________________________________________________________ ali asad lotia lotia@umich.edu
From: kiss@slip.net (Richard Kiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Request for EOF Info Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:06:41 +0100 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <kiss-3107972006570001@sj-pm5-4-196.dialup.slip.net> We are considering using EOF and other Next technologies to assist development of our products. Our legacy application uses Oracle and other middleware. I would very much appreciate any comments about EOF in general, as well as comments about the topics below. (1) What are they key advantages and disadvantages of using EOF over homegrown code? How does it compare to other middleware? Any real world testimonials would be greatly welcome. (2) How efficient is it (speed and size)? (3) How robust is it? (4) How scalable is it? (5) Is it difficult to learn? (6) How difficult would it be to provide a C API for existing code? Our code is built using Sun's cc compiler. (7) We have a very wide distributed network, and would need to provide encryption for data that needs to travel over the Internet. How difficult would this be? How does distributed objects technology fit into this? If you post your reply, please cc: me. Richard Kiss kiss@mpath.nospam.com Please remove "nospam" to reply.
From: "Heath Tucker" <heatht@mindspring.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Mail and proxy Date: 1 Aug 1997 04:41:13 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <01bc9e32$d4f1c8a0$03ac2ac0@cupertino> Can anyone help me configure NeXT Mail to use a proxy server? I am running WinGate on my Win95 machine (finally found a use for it) and have gotten Omniweb to work by setting proxy info. in preferences. I have gotten NewsGrazer to work the same way. I can telnet and ftp from the cube by connecting to the proxy server and letting it do the work, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to get NeXT Mail to use the proxy. I can't seem to 'point' the thing to my WinGate machine. Can anyone tell me how to get this working? I am running NS 3.3 with Netinfo handling host info. Thanks in advance. Heath Tucker
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MP3 player ? Date: 1 Aug 1997 11:58:58 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5rsj22$pqe$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5rqdmc$k2u@portal.gmu.edu> <5rr0m3$ofg$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <33E14455.5DFE1D7A@cyberspace.org> Cc: windchsr@cyberspace.org In <33E14455.5DFE1D7A@cyberspace.org> Windchaser wrote: > Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > > I am sure you mean MPEG I Layer 3 files... > > > > See > {{\xurl http://www.this.net/~frank/ > }<} > http://www.this.net/~frank/ in the download area. It is a cmdline offline > > player (it renders firsts into a SND file for later playback), a m68k is too > > slow to render in realtime. > > That's untrue. I was able to play .mp3 files on my Amiga 3000 030/50. > The system slowed to a crawl, and multitasking was rough, but the sound > was fine (well, as good as you can expect from the Amiga's sound > hardware.) > > If an 030/50 with its audio hardware on a 7 MHz bus can handle it, > surely a Turbo system could? I have a Turbo Cube and it can not handle playing in 44.1 kHz/16 bit mono in real time (not to speak about stereo...). Of course the mpeg codec is not optimized for m68k (just a plain compile of the mpeg123 C code). I could imaging a highly optimized version could keep up but what's the point if no other work could be done on the system (if anyone will try... the sources for mpg123 are freely available). -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <5rrgp9$4146@webnt.uwsuper.edu> From: ddahlvan@staff.uwsuper.edu Date: 1 Aug 1997 02:14:01 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Superior Subject: cmsg newgroup comp.sys.next.software y Control: newgroup comp.sys.next.software y Control message generated by Netscape Collabra Server.
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <nospam+next@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Info] more NeXT style icons Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:40:27 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970731103409.7850B-100000@kira> References: <5rq8a1$1s7$2@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr In-Reply-To: <5rq8a1$1s7$2@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> On 31 Jul 1997 ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr wrote: > ppai_Icon_1.tar.Z ~ ppai_Icon_9.tar.Z These have been changed to .tar.gz files, of course, since gzip gives much better compression than regular compress (20-50% in this case) > If you feel so pretty, Please send me mail with message "Very Good !" I feel pretty, oh so pretty... > Note: > It should move to "ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/graphics/icons/" and > "ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/" directory. So moved. TjL
From: charlesa@ncast.co.uk (Charles Ashley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Regular Expression Error in EnhanceMail2.0b6 Date: 1 Aug 1997 16:32:34 GMT Organization: MatriX Publishing Network Distribution: world Message-ID: <5rt332$mmg@nebula.mpn.com> Hi - I've just installed EnhanceMail 2.0b6 in /LocalLibrary/Mail for use with Mail4.1mac and OS4.1. Really cool! But one thing - when I click on any mail to read it, I get a window saying "Regular Expression Error - Invalid partial", which I have to then click the okay button and can then read/reply mail correctly. Have I done something wrong to get this error window, or is there something I can do to get rid of it? TIA, C.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Sender: C. Patterson<Iccm@direct.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5rt5ja$e6g$5731@brie.direct.ca> Control: cancel <5rt5ja$e6g$5731@brie.direct.ca> Date: 01 Aug 1997 18:56:33 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5rt5ja$e6g$5731@brie.direct.ca> Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "Spuds" <spuds@datacruz.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MAKE CASH FAST AND EASY!! LEGAL!!! Date: 22 Jul 1997 02:19:10 GMT Organization: Datacruz Internet Message-ID: <01bc9645$67f5c0c0$8ac2c6d0@default> Subject: $$$$$$$$QUICK CASH FAST$$$$$$$$$ NOT A SCAM!!PLEASE READ!!! Date: Monday, July 21, 1997 11:51 AM $$$ QUICK!!!! Cash!!!! $$$ A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $5.00! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam," but like most of us, but I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 5 names and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #5, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands.) No catch, that was it. You can make up to or over $50,000.00 in 4-6 weeks, maybe sooner! I SWEAR, I'M NOT LYING TO YOU, AND THIS IS NOT A SCAM! If you're interested in making some big bucks, keep reading; if you're not, I apologize for wasting your time. So after thinking it over, talking to a few people first, I figured what have I got to lose except for 5 stamps and $5, right? One person who very recently had tried it said it worked like a charm. He started getting money in the mail! He was shocked! He figured it would end soon, and didn't give it another thought. But then the money kept coming IN - tripling in size and multiplying by 10 - 20 times the amount that he got the first week! In his first week he had made a total of over $1,000!!! In the third week he had over $10,000 dollars, and it's still growing! This is his fourth week and he's made about $42,000 Total, and believe it or not the money is still coming in... I know this has been checked out several times with the legal community and is deemed perfectly Legal, but being a very cautious person, I also wanted to check it out with the US Post Office. I called them (1-800-725-2161) and explained this process and asked if there were any regulations that would be violated doing this. Without hesitation, the postal official also said it is legal. At that point, I felt comfortable going ahead and joining the process. Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, WHY IT WORKS!...Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you get the information from it, and begin making money. The process is very simple, and it consists of 3 ease steps: STEP 1: Get 5 separates pieces of paper and write the following on each sheet of paper: "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST. YOU ARE NUMBER ." Get five $1 bills, and place ONE inside each piece of paper that you have just written on, and fold each piece of paper so the bill will not be seen in the envelope (otherwise, nosy people who like to steal envelopes with money in it will not get yours). Put one paper inside the envelope and seal it. Do the same for all 5. You should now have 5 envelopes sealed, each having a piece of paper AND the $1 bill inside. NOTE: Make sure those words that were stated above are written on each piece of paper. What you are doing is creating a service by this. This is PERFECTLY LEGAL. Now, mail the 5 envelopes with the paper and $1 in each to the following 5 addresses: #1 A. Lillian 1671 E. Grandview Blvd. Kissimmee, Fl 34744 #2 D. Dixon 36 Ambrose St. Charlottetown, Pe C1A3P4 Canada #3 G Cisnero VLN 1151 P.O. Box 025685 Miami Florida, 33102-5685 #4 A. Bruce 500 Bay Green Ct Arnold, Md 21012 #5 B. Pawlowski 1133 Byron Dr. South Bend, In 46614-2728 STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (5 becomes 4, 4 becomes 3, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 5 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there is close to 18,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! Don't know HOW to post in the newsgroups? Well, do exactly the following: FOR NETSCAPE USERS, 1) Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on "To News, which is in the top left corner of the newsgroup page. This will bring up a message box. 2) Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title, like the one I used, something to catch the eye!!! 3) Now go to the message part of the box and retype this letter exactly as it is here, with exception of your few changes. (Remember to add your name to number 5 and move the rest up) 4) When you're done typing in the WHOLE letter, click on FILE above the send button. Then, SAVE AS.. DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTIL YOU SAVE IT. (So you don't have to type this 200 times :-) 5) Now that you have saved the letter, go ahead and send your first copy! (Click the SEND button in the top left corner) 6) This is where you post all 200! OK, go to ANY newsgroup article and click the TO NEWS button again. Type in your flashy subject in the SUBJECT BOX, then go to the message and place your cursor here. Now click on ATTACHMENT, which is right below the SUBJECT BOX. Click on attach file then find your letter wherever you saved it. Click once on your file then click OPEN then click OK. If you did this right, you should see your filename in the ATTACHMENT BOX and it will be shaded. NOW POST AWAY!! IF YOU ARE USING INTERNET EXPLORER: It's just as easy, holding down the left mouse button, highlight this entire article, then press the CTRL key and C key at the same time to copy this article. Then print the article for your records to have the names of those you will be sending $1.00 to. NEXT, Go to the newsgroups and press POST AN ARTICLE type in your flashy subject and click the large window below. Press CTRL and V and the article will appear in the message window. ** BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE 5 NAMES. ** Now re-highlight the article and re-copy it re-copy it so you have the changes.... Then all you have to do for each newsgroup is CTRL and V and press POST. It's that easy!! THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! ** REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200 ** This is WHY this works! Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #5 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #4 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #3 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #2 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #1 and they each only receive 5 replies that just made me $3,125.00!!! With an original investment of only $5.00! AMAZING! And, as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is probable 20 to 30! So let's put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is what you will make: at #5 $15.00 at #4 $225.00 at #3 $3,375.00 at #2 $50,625.00 at #1 $759,375.00 When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $5.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 5 again. Then start posting again. The thing to remember is, do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles every day, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So can you afford $5.00 and see if it really works?? I think so - People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and knew honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just have to be honest. Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone are playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the basic idea to Makes the money!! GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from this, which is tons of extra CASH. ** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that's after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 5 $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars. Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970802.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970723.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970702.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 02 Aug 1997 01:00:00 +0100 Organization: Private System, London SW19, UK Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Jul-25 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-Jul-19 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> and also at <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: Valentino_Kyriakides@public.uni-hamburg.de (Valentino Kyriakides) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to use Tandberg SCSI tape with Black 3.2 ? Date: 2 Aug 1997 15:03:18 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Message-ID: <5rvi7m$cu6$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> References: <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com> You (Rebecca <beccaray@geocities.com>) wrote in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:30:38 -0400: > Hi all, > > I have a Tandberg 250 meg SCSI tape drive that is being unusable with my > turbo color station. Any suggestions on how to get it to work. I know > there is a way becasue I've used it before, but the script that set it > up got eaten in the Hard Drive crash. Any help on this would be greatly > appreciated. > Well, assuming that you correctly connected your Tandberg streamer to the SCSI-bus (termination set if it is the last device in line, otherwise disabled?), there should be no problem in accessing or using this streamer. You have to use the following devices "/dev/rst0" or "/dev/nrst0" with one of the following programs: "tar" or even better "gnutar" - for writing/reading tar-archives "mt" if you want to control (position, rewind etc.) the tape "cpio" - another sort of archiving program "dump / restore" for writing/restoring backups (Take a look at the man-pages of the above mentioned programs!) If you want the tape to automatically rewind to the beginning after writing or reading something, use the "/dev/rst0" device. Otherwise use the non- rewinding "/dev/nrst0" device. Some examples: gtar cvf /dev/nrst0 file1 file2... <--- puts some files into 1 tape archiv mt -f /dev/nrst0 rewind <--- this rewinds the tape to the beginning gtar xvf /dev/nrst0 file1 file2... <--- restores back some files from tape archiv mt -f /dev/nrst0 fsf 2 <--- positions forward to the 3'rd tape archiv NOTE: When using the "mt back space count files (bsf)" option with a Tandberg QIC streamer, you have to use the following scheme in order to position correctly to the startmark of an archive: ...say your tape is at the beginning of the 5'th tar archive and you would like to position to the beginning of the 3'rd. Then you have to position 3 positions back and 1 forward to exactly hit the 3'rd mark! (see supplied script) Here is a little interactive shell-script program which uses "gnutar" and "mt" for storing/retrieving tar-archives etc.! You can put it somewhere in your execution path and make it executable, then you can use it in/from a terminal! ========================= CUT HERE ===================================== #!/bin/sh # @(#) Tapeutility v1.0; # @(#) (c) 1994 V.Kyriakides # @(#) Valentino Kyriakides: 1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de ### Change the following var-settings for your needs! TAR=/usr/bin/gnutar MT="/bin/mt -f" NTAPE=/dev/nrst0 TAPE=/dev/rst0 OPTREAD=xvf OPTWRITE=cvf ####################### Menues MainMenue () { clear echo "+--------------------+" echo "| T A P E u t i l |" echo "|--------------------|" echo "| a - About TAPEutil |" echo "| i - Info Settings |" echo "|--------------------|" echo "| c - Contents Menu |" echo "| p - Position Menu |" echo "| r - Read Menu |" echo "| w - Write Menu |" echo "| t - Tape Copy |" echo "| q - Quit to Shell |" echo "+--------------------+" echo -n "\nYour choice --> " } PosMenue () { clear echo "+-------------------------+" echo "| Tape Position |" echo "|-------------------------| " echo "| r - Rewind the tape |" echo "| f - Forward count files |" echo "| b - Back count files |" echo "| q - Quit this Submenu |" echo "+-------------------------+" echo -n "\nSelection ---> " } ContentsMenue () { clear echo "+-------------------------+" echo "| Tape Contents |" echo "|-------------------------|" echo "| c - Count Archives |" echo "| a - List actual Archive |" echo "| l - List all Archives |" echo "| q - Quit this Submenu |" echo "+-------------------------+" echo "\nSelection ---> \c" } ReadMenue () { clear echo "+-----------------------+" echo "| Tape Read |" echo "|-----------------------| " echo "| r - Read Archive |" echo "| q - Quit this Submenu |" echo "+-----------------------+" echo -n "\nSelection ---> " } WriteMenue () { clear echo "+-----------------------+" echo "| Tape Write |" echo "|-----------------------| " echo "| w - Write Archive |" echo "| q - Quit this Submenu |" echo "+-----------------------+" echo -n "\nSelection ---> " } CopyMenue () { clear echo "+-----------------------+" echo "| Tape Copy |" echo "|-----------------------| " echo "| f - From Archive |" echo "| t - To Archive |" echo "| q - Quit this Submenu |" echo "+-----------------------+" echo -n "\nSelection ---> " } ####################### Quit stuff ... About () { clear echo "This is T A P E u t i l v.1.0" echo "(c) 1994 by V.Kyriakides" echo echo Return } ####################### Quit stuff ... Info () { clear echo "These are T A P E u t i l's actual settings:" echo "--------------------------------------------" echo echo "The used tape archiver is TAR=$TAR" echo "The used magnetic tape is MT=$MT" echo "The used nonrewinding tape device NTAPE is $NTAPE" echo "The used rewinding tape device TAPE is $TAPE" echo "$TAR 's read options are OPTREAD=$OPTREAD" echo "$TAR 's write options are OPTWRITE=$OPTWRITE" echo echo "--------------------------------------------" echo "NOTE: The above tape options and some others used in the script," echo "may be changed to fullfill other configurations, or your personal" echo "needs !" echo echo Return } ####################### Quit stuff ... Return () { echo -n "RETURN, please" read Key } ####################### Rewinding Rewind () { clear echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Tapestart reached!" echo "status: done" echo Return } ####################### Forward count steps Forward () { clear po=1 echo echo -n "Number of forward count steps [default=1] ? " read po if [ "$po" = "" ] then po=1 fi echo echo "status: Position Tape $po count steps forward..." echo $MT $NTAPE fsf $po 2>/dev/null if [ $? = "0" ] then echo "status: Tape position is now $po steps behind the previous position" echo "status: done" else echo "status: Tape reached during the forward positioning the End-Mark!" echo "status: (End-Mark reached) Positioning-Stop!" fi echo Return } ####################### Back count steps Back () { clear no=$1 po=$no echo echo -n "Number of back count steps [default=1] ? " read no po=$no if [ "$po" = "" ] then po=2 no=1 else po=`expr $po + 1` fi echo echo "status: Position Tape $no count steps back..." echo $MT $NTAPE bsf $po 2>/dev/null $MT $NTAPE fsf 1 2>/dev/null if [ $? = "0" ] then echo "status: Tape position is now $no steps before the previous position" echo "status: done" else echo "status: Tape reached during the back positioning the Tape-Start!" echo "Status: (Tape-Start reached) Positioning-Stop!" fi echo Return } ####################### Count Archives Count () { clear sel="_" echo -n "After performing the Archive count, [r]ewind or [n]ot rewind the Tape ? " read sel echo echo "Rewinding..."; $MT $TAPE rewind; echo "status: Tape-Start reached" no=0 echo "status: Search the Tape for Archive files..." while $MT $NTAPE fsf 1 2>/dev/null # Fehlerumleitung auf's Null-device do if [ $? = "0" ] then no=`expr $no + 1` fi done echo "=====================================" echo "The Tape contains ($no) Tar-Archives !" echo "=====================================" if [ $sel = 'n' ] then echo "status: Tape is now behind the last Tar-Archiv" else echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Tape-Start reached" fi echo "status: done" echo Return } ####################### Actual Archive List ActualList () { clear sel="_" echo -n "After listing the contents, [r]ewind or [n]ot rewind the Tape ? " read sel echo echo "---------------------------------------------------------------------" echo "The actual Tar-Archiv contains the following files..." echo "---------------------------------------------------------------------" if [ $sel = 'n' ] then $TAR vtf $NTAPE 2>/dev/null # Fehlermeldung aufs Null-device umlenken else $TAR vtf $TAPE 2>/dev/null # Fehlermeldung aufs Null-device umlenken fi echo "---------------------------------------------------------------------" echo Return } ####################### List Tape Contents List () { clear sel="_" no=0 echo -n "After listing the contents, [r]ewind or [n]ot rewind the Tape ? " read sel echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind while : do ans=`$TAR vtf $NTAPE 2>/dev/null` # Fehlermeldung aufs Null-device umlenken if [ "$ans" = "" ] then echo "status: ...no more Tar-Archives found" echo "================================================" echo "The Tape contains ($no) Tar-Archives !" echo "================================================" if [ $sel = 'r' ] then echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind 2>/dev/null echo "status: Tape-Start reached" else echo "status: Tape is now behind the last Tar-Archiv" fi echo "status: done" echo exit 1 else no=`expr $no + 1` echo echo "---------------------------------------------------------------------" echo "The $no 'Tar-Archiv contains the following files..." echo "---------------------------------------------------------------------" echo "$ans" echo "---------------------------------------------------------------------" echo echo "status: ...search for another Archive..." fi done Return } ####################### Read Tape Archive ReadArchiv () { clear echo if [ "$1" = "" ] then echo -n "Welches Tar-Archiv (1,..,n) soll gelesen werden [Enter=aktuelles]? " read POS no=$POS if [ "$POS" = "" ] then echo echo "status: Aktuelles Tar-Archiv wird gelesen..." echo $TAR $OPTREAD $NTAPE echo echo "status: Band befindet sich hinter dem eben gelesenen Tar-Archiv!" else echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind sleep 3 echo "status: Positioniere das Band an das $no'te Tar-Archiv..." if [ "$POS" = 1 ] then echo else POS=`expr $POS - 1` $MT $NTAPE fsf $POS 2>/dev/null echo fi echo "status: Das $no'te Tar-Archiv wird gelesen..." echo $TAR $OPT $TAPE sleep 3 echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Bandanfang erreicht" fi echo "status: done" echo else POS=$1 no=$POS echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind sleep 3 echo "status: Positioniere das Band an das $no'te Tar-Archiv..." if [ "$no" = 1 ] then echo else POS=`expr $POS - 1` $MT $NTAPE fsf $POS 2>/dev/null echo fi echo "status: Das $no'te Tar-Archiv wird gelesen..." echo $TAR $OPT $TAPE sleep 3 echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Bandanfang erreicht" echo "status: done" echo fi Return } ####################### Write Tape Archive WriteArchiv () { clear FILES=$1 clear echo if [ "$1" = "" ] then echo echo "Welche Datei(en)...sollen aufs Band geschrieben werden [Enter=Abbruch]?" echo echo -n "=> " read FILES echo if [ "$FILES" = "" ] then echo echo "status: Abbruch, keine Datei(en) geschrieben!" echo exit 1 else set $FILES fi fi ABBRUCH="" for i do if [ ! -r $i ] then echo "status: kann $i nicht finden!" ABBRUCH=1 fi done if [ "$ABBRUCH" = "1" ] then echo "status: Abbruch, keine Datei(en) geschrieben" echo exit 1 fi FILES=$* if [ -r $FILES ] then echo -n "An welche Bandposition (1,..,n) soll geschrieben werden [default=aktuelle]? " read POS no=$POS if [ "$POS" = "" ] then echo echo "$FILES werden an die aktuelle Bandposition geschrieben..." echo $TAR $OPTWRITE $NTAPE $FILES echo echo "status: Band befindet sich hinter dem eben geschriebenen Tar-Archiv!" else echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind sleep 3 echo "status: Positioniere das Band an die $no'te Bandposition..." if [ "$POS" = 1 ] then echo else POS=`expr $POS - 1` $MT $NTAPE fsf $POS 2>/dev/null echo fi echo "status: $FILES werden an die $no'te Bandposition geschrieben..." echo $TAR $OPT $NTAPE $FILES sleep 3 echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Bandanfang erreicht" fi echo "status: done" echo fi Return } ####################### Tape Copy From CopyFrom () { clear DIR=~/tmp clear echo "KOPIE VOM BAND AUF DIE FESTPLATTE" echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind mkdir $DIR if test -w $DIR then echo "status: habe $DIR zur Dateiaufnahme angelegt!" cd $DIR else echo "FEHLER: Das Verzeichnis $DIR konnte nicht angelegt werden," echo "evtl. haben Sie keine Zugriffsrechte fuer diese Operation!" echo echo "Druecken sie <Return> fuer Programmabbruch!" read DUMMY echo Return fi no=0 echo "status: Bandarchive in $DIR schreiben..." echo "----------------------------------------------------------------------------" while : do dd if=$NTAPE of=tpfile$no bs=10k if [ ! -s tpfile$no ] then rm tpfile$no echo "status: ...Bandlesefehler, habe keine weitere Datei gefunden" echo "----------------------------------------------------------------------------" echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Das Band befindet sich am Bandanfang" echo "status: done" echo exit 1 else echo echo "status: vom Band ==> tpfile$no geschrieben..." echo no=`expr $no + 1` fi done Return } ####################### Tape Copy To CopyTo () { DIR=~/tmp clear echo "KOPIE VON DER FESTPLATTE AUF DAS BAND" echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind if test -r $DIR then echo "status: springe ins Verzeichnis $DIR" cd $DIR else echo "FEHLER: Das Verzeichnis $DIR wurde nicht gefunden!" echo echo "Druecken sie <Return> fuer Programmabbruch!" read DUMMY echo exit 1 fi no=0 echo "status: Dateien aufs Band schreiben..." echo "----------------------------------------------------------------------------" while : do if [ ! -f tpfile$no ] then echo echo "status: keine weitere Datei gefunden" echo "----------------------------------------------------------------------------" echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Das Band befindet sich am Bandanfang" echo "status: done" echo exit 1 else echo echo "status: tpfile$no ==> Band schreiben..." echo dd if=tpfile$no of=$NTAPE bs=10k no=`expr $no + 1` fi done Return } ####################### Access Contents Menu Contents () { Item="_" while [ $Item != 'q' ] do ContentsMenue read Item case $Item in 'c') Count;; 'a') ActualList;; 'l') List;; '') echo "Nothhing selected"; Item="_"; Return;; esac done } ####################### Access Positioning Menu Position () { Item="_" while [ $Item != 'q' ] do PosMenue read Item case $Item in 'r') Rewind;; 'f') Forward;; 'b') Back;; '') echo "Nothhing selected"; Item="_"; Return;; esac done } ####################### Access Read Menu Read () { Item="_" while [ $Item != 'q' ] do ReadMenue read Item case $Item in 'r') ReadArchiv;; '') echo "Nothing selected"; Item="_"; Return;; esac done } ####################### Access Write Menu Write () { ItemL="_" while [ $ItemL != 'q' ] do WriteMenue read ItemL case $ItemL in 'w') WriteArchiv;; '') echo "Nothing selected"; Item="_"; Return;; esac done } ####################### Access Copy Menu Copy () { ItemL="_" while [ $ItemL != 'q' ] do CopyMenue read ItemL case $ItemL in 'f') CopyFrom;; 'f') CopyTo;; '') echo "Nothing selected"; Item="_"; Return;; esac done } ####################### Main Thing="_" while [ $Thing != 'q' ] do MainMenue read Thing case $Thing in 'a') About;; 'i') Info;; 'c') Contents;; 'p') Position;; 'r') Read;; 'w') Write;; 't') Copy;; '') echo "Nothing selected"; Thing="_"; Return;; esac done ========================= CUT HERE ===================================== Hope this helps? Valentino ________________________________________________________________ Valentino Kyriakides Universitaet Hamburg, FB. Informatik Arbeitsbereich Softwaretechnik ________________________________________________________________ E-Mail: 1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (ASCII, MIME) NeXTmail: Valentino_Kyriakides@public.uni-hamburg.de ________________________________________________________________
From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: popper Date: 2 Aug 1997 14:51:11 GMT Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5rvhgv$9lv$1@nexus.oic.de> References: <5risv4$chu@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5rn54q$ies$1@news.e-scape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <5rn54q$ies$1@news.e-scape.net> My Account wrote: It works (qpopper) for NEXTSTEP 3.3 and OPENSTEP 4.1/4.2. I compiled and used it on these systems. Juergen > Try qpopper from > http://www.eudora.com/freeware/servers.html > > I compiled it for OpenStep 4.1, to see if it compiles. But I have not used > it on OpenStep 4.1, mostly on Solaris and FreeBSD > In <5risv4$chu@news.acns.nwu.edu> daj@nwu.edu wrote: > > I'm looking for pop3d for OpenStep. > > > > The source I have will not compile under OpenStep Developer 4.1. Is there > a binary version (precompiled) available anywhere? Is there source for > Openstep? > > > > Thank's in advance, > > > > David A. Johnson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: befuddled new user Message-ID: <EEAGL9.Ey@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5rrgpu$b4q$2@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:39:08 GMT In article <5rrgpu$b4q$2@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu> Ali Asad Lotia <lotia@toastman.us.itd.umich.edu> writes: ...munch... > i am a little lost regarding what "YP" refers to when the network > stuff is starting up at boot booting in NS3.3, i have also been > having problems configuring my machine for the net. > YP (a.k.a. Yellow Pages, refers to the SUN style of network wide Unix configuration; nowadays rechristend NIS for Network Informantion System) > my machine hangs while displaying "starting yp network" (or > something like that) when booting after i have added the local > settings to my host manager app. > You managed to slip the directive to use YP services into /etc/hostconfig. There are several concealed ways of doing so. My guess: you fuddled with the network/hos setup without following the procedures in the SysAdmin manual. Easiest way would be to set the YP property in /etc/hostconfig to NO. > if anyone could let me know how to translate the terminologies > for the host manager local configuration stuff, i would also be > quite thankful,. i have the ip address, the router address, the > name server addresses, can get the ethernet number for the card > in the machine. > HostManager is no way to setup your local network config. It just manages to declare the peers a host in the network is meant to know. You need to run SimpleNetworkStarter to get a network conf ready to run. But, IMHO, what you need most is the time (and the will?) to study the online SysAdmin manual. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman -- remove .dev.null to reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Regular Expression Error in EnhanceMail2.0b6 Date: 2 Aug 1997 16:41:53 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EE94Ks.4pJ@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <5rt332$mmg@nebula.mpn.com> charlesa@ncast.co.uk (Charles Ashley) wrote: > I've just installed EnhanceMail 2.0b6 in /LocalLibrary/Mail for use with > Mail4.1mac and OS4.1. Really cool! But one thing - when I click on any > mail to read it, I get a window saying "Regular Expression Error - Invalid > partial", which I have to then click the okay button and can then > read/reply mail correctly. > > Have I done something wrong to get this error window, or is there > something I can do to get rid of it? You haven't done anything wrong, I have :-/ It's a snafu in one of the smilie regular expressions that escaped into the 2.0b6 release... To workaround, you can either - turn off the "Expand Smilies" option (in Info->Preferences...[Options]), if smilies aren't mission-critical to you. - remove the extraneous backslash (`\') from the FaceEvilGrin regexp (using a preferences editor like DefaultsSystem.preferences; dread/dwrite does not seem to work for multi-line values), and restart Mail. - apply the following patch to the EnhanceMail sources and recompile: *** Preferences.m 1997/04/26 01:09:08 1.4 --- Preferences.m 1997/05/19 23:27:42 1.5 *************** + finishLoading:(struct mach_header *)he *** 231,235 **** :-[yY]\nFaceWry.tiff\n\ 8-|\nFaceKOed.tiff\n\ ! }-\\)\nFaceEvilGrin.tiff\n\ }->\nFaceSatanicGrin.tiff" ]; --- 231,235 ---- :-[yY]\nFaceWry.tiff\n\ 8-|\nFaceKOed.tiff\n\ ! }-)\nFaceEvilGrin.tiff\n\ }->\nFaceSatanicGrin.tiff" ]; Hope this helps, Tom. -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.dev.null.nl> (work) __/__/__/ <<SPAMBLOCK: remove .dev.null to reply>> __/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Transfer display? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EE7nL0.Duv@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 01:17:24 GMT References: <5rnpmd$lpe$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5rnpmd$lpe$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu>, Christopher J Lewandowski-pearson <lewandow@u.arizona.edu> wrote: >I finally convinced my boss to let me use a '040-25 NeXT cube instead >of the 486/33 Linux machine at work. I have never used a NeXT before, >but already I'm in love. Anyway to the point... It is currently running >OS 3.0 and have 16megs of RAM. > If you love it with 3.0 and 16MB you'd die of pleasure using 3.2 or 3.3 with more RAM. You likely wouldn't survive using a NeXTdimension system. ;) >Is there anyway to transfer the display from a X-windows system to the >cube? (I'm on a TCP/IP network). I tried to find xhost, but could not. > NeXTSTEP doesn't run X natively. However there are several X solutions avilable. For black hardware (except Dimension systems) there's a free X server that goes by the name "mouseX". Poke around the Peak and Peanuts archives and you should be able to find it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: maple for next Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EE7HG7.o9r@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:04:55 GMT References: <5rnkji$ab5@rumah.pc.my> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5rnkji$ab5@rumah.pc.my>, Michael Olan <michael@rumah.pc.my> wrote: >I have to teach a course using maple, and I think I remember LONG ago that >there was a maple for next, but couldn't find reference to in w/dejanews. > There is Maple V Release 3 for NeXTSTEP; you should be able to order it from Maplesoft (http://www.maplesoft.com/, I think.) Pester them, since they may claim that it doesn't exist. I have VR2 and it does fine for me. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Michael <tweak@metronet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Alternative to OmniWeb for Cyrix processors Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 23:13:49 -0500 Organization: intelligent networks Message-ID: <82602AAA75F12FDE.B4468E02863F7C30.12C9819416711DB6@library-proxy.airnews.net> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Sat Aug 2 15:37:21 1997 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a white-box with a Cyrix 150+ processor in it that refuses to run OmniWeb <any version>. I understand that this is a know problem with certain threading issues and the Cyrix processor. Is there any alternative web browser that works? If not, I wonder if I can port a version of Netscape for some other unix OS. Michael.
From: Paul Buckley <buckley4@idt.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OCR software Date: 2 Aug 1997 20:58:10 GMT Organization: IDT Message-ID: <5s0712$k2u@nnrp2.farm.idt.net> Would someone remind me what is available, commercial or otherwise, for black hardware? Thanks -- _____________________________ Paul Buckley 515 W 59th St., Apt. 22K New York, NY 10019 E-mail: buckley4@idt.net Tel/Fax: 212-333-3382 _____________________________ Bernie Sanders: Does this concern you, the fact that we today have, by far, the most unequal distribution of wealth and income in the industrialized world? Alan Greenspan: Yes, the answer is it does concern me. It's not clear to me what monetary policy can do to alter that in any material way. In testimony before the House Banking Committee's Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy, March 5, 1997.
From: John Andrew <japhilpott@internetMci.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Configuring TurboSlab for Internet Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 18:20:46 -0400 Organization: Internet MCI Message-ID: <33E3B2BD.DC042FCA@internetMci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been using my Next Turbo slab for the past few years, but never got around to setting it up for the Web. SO decided today it was time. I'm using NS 3.0. on a Turbo Slab 040 . I have Zyxel u-1496e modem with NFX software for faxing up and running. Tried using FTP but had no luck. Could anyone point me in the right direction ? I'm hoping to upgrade to 3.3 soon and get OmniWeb 2.1. However I have no idea as to how to configure my system or get FTP working. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My apologies for the simplicity of my request. john a philpott japhilpott@internetmci.com -- "You'd think it's a conspiracy by the Networks to put bad shows on TV. But those shows are there because that's what people want. I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely depressing thought" -Steve Jobs
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Seek Software for glossy prints on NeXT Color Printer Date: 2 Aug 1997 20:12:34 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5s0sv2$5q6@slip.net> Hi, About 6 weeks ago someone sold a NeXT Color Printer on c.s.n.m and said they had special software for printing to glossy paper from a NeXT Color Printer. He said that photo quality was possible when one used it. Ah, I emailed the seller and inquired about the software but he didn't respond. Ah, now that I have a NeXT Color Printer of my own, could someone suggest where I might find this sort of software? Thanks, Emmett
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <2376869976046@digifix.com> Date: 3 Aug 1997 03:53:39 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <9060870580820@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Alternative to OmniWeb for Cyrix processors Date: 3 Aug 1997 03:47:45 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5s0v11$8ff$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <82602AAA75F12FDE.B4468E02863F7C30.12C9819416711DB6@library-proxy.airnews.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tweak@metronet.com In <82602AAA75F12FDE.B4468E02863F7C30.12C9819416711DB6@library-proxy.airnews.net> Michael wrote: > I have a white-box with a Cyrix 150+ processor in it that refuses to run > OmniWeb <any version>. I understand that this is a know problem with > certain threading issues and the Cyrix processor. Is there any > alternative web browser that works? > > If not, I wonder if I can port a version of Netscape for some other unix > OS. The Cyrix has problems with OS/NS.... OmniWeb just illustrates it well... I wouldn't use it, personally. Assuming you have to/want to, the only real alternative is Netsurfer. If you could get source code to Netscape, you might be able to, but I'd doubt they'd give it to you... TjL
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Configuring TurboSlab for Internet Date: 3 Aug 1997 04:42:10 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5s1272$8ff$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <33E3B2BD.DC042FCA@internetMci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: japhilpott@internetMci.com In <33E3B2BD.DC042FCA@internetMci.com> John Andrew wrote: > I have been using my Next Turbo slab for the past few years, but never got > around to setting it up for the Web. SO decided today it was time. I'm > using NS 3.0. on a Turbo Slab 040 . I have Zyxel u-1496e modem with NFX > software for faxing up and running. Do you have PPP running? How are you connecting to the 'net? > Tried using FTP but had no luck. Could anyone point me in the right > direction ? Had no luck why/how? What went wrong? What error messages did you get? > I'm hoping to upgrade to 3.3 soon and get OmniWeb 2.1. However I have no > idea as to how to configure my system or > get FTP working. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > My apologies for the simplicity of my request. If this is from your home, my guess is that you need an ISP and to setup PPP. To do this you might need to upgrade to 3.2 or 3.3.... pre-3.2 PPP is an unknown to me, and although there may be a package to do it, I'm not sure how good it works (AlbyPPP rings a bell....) Note: unless you need/want to compile quadfat apps, 3.2 is just as good as 3.3 (well, the 3.3 mail.app is better, has built-in MIME support). Make sure you get the FoundationUserPatch. TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat peak org> (add punctuation to email me) 'The biggest problem I have is that all my memory is "Random Access"' - me, after the midterm exam
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OCR software Date: 2 Aug 1997 23:44:07 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5s19bn$orm@slip.net> References: <5s0712$k2u@nnrp2.farm.idt.net> MetroSoft offers at least one OCR package. Ah, the only thing I recall about is that one app works as a NeXT service and instantly translates rtfs to ascii as well as tiffs. Off hand I don't know the best way to contact MetroSoft, via E-mail or by phone, but if you call information for San Diego you can contact them. The address is : MetroSoft 710 13th St. Suite 310 San Diego, CA 92101 Ah, I purchased Simon Says from them about 6 weeks ago and was able to purchase Simon Says for 99$ which usually lists for around 200$. The point being if you run into some of their old marketing material call for the current price. Emmett
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AVI: bit_cnt not 8 not supported Date: 3 Aug 1997 07:34:30 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5s1ca6$ghg$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking for an AVI player which can handle whatever this error message means: AVI: bit_cnt not 8 not supported I'm using VideoStream.app.... I've never needed an AVI player before, but now I've found an AVI on Beagles (as in the dog) and I'd like to see it on my NSFIP machine. Are there other AVI apps out there which can support whatever that is? Thanks TjL
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IconGrabber for OpenStep Date: 3 Aug 1997 07:50:52 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5s1d8s$ghg$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: marcel@system.de Has anyone compiled 'IconGrabber' for OpenStep? I wasn't able to get it to compile, but that more than likely means I did not set something up right after restoring the dev tools after a disk crash, rather than anything wrong with the app itself. If someone has it for OpenStep/Mach/Intel, please let me know Thanks TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat peak org> (add punctuation to email me) 'The biggest problem I have is that all my memory is "Random Access"' - me, after the midterm exam
From: gjvo@xs4all.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to monitor RAM activity and system resources Date: 3 Aug 1997 09:55:30 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <5s1kii$e2j$1@news2.xs4all.nl> References: <5s19fd$ovf@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: >Is there a program which monitors RAM activity and >system resources? Monitor.app. on your friendly neighbourhood archive. -- Geert Jan van Oldenborgh work: oldenbor@knmi.nl else: gjvo@xs4all.nl web: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjvo
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Sender: Want More Dates???<tracy78@kilgrona.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5s21tj$2e1@chronicle.concentric.net> Control: cancel <5s21tj$2e1@chronicle.concentric.net> Date: 03 Aug 1997 13:46:00 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5s21tj$2e1@chronicle.concentric.net> Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to monitor RAM activity and system resources Date: 3 Aug 1997 16:22:29 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5s2b85$ghd$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5s19fd$ovf@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5s19fd$ovf@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > Is there a program which monitors RAM activity and > system resources? Several. My personal favorite is KPerfMon: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/misc/KPerfMon.1.3.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/misc/KPerfMon.1.3.README Or if you have a color machine ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/misc/KPerfMon.1.3C.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/misc/KPerfMon.1.3C.README I think there are some others but my brain hasn't started firing yet.... TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat peak org> (add punctuation to email me) 'The biggest problem I have is that all my memory is "Random Access"' - me, after the midterm exam
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: tiff to gif or jmp from command line Date: 3 Aug 1997 12:11:42 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5s2l5e$rmk@slip.net> Hi, I'm considering setting up a live-cam web site. I'm running a ND 40/64. I'd like to modify the program Capture and then convert the tif files it writes into gifs or jpgs. The idea is that I'd run a chron job or something which would move the Cature anim directory and then would run some app to convert the tiffs. Questions : 1. Is it possible, with Latin Byrd, to convert a tiff file to another format from the unix command line (as in a shell script)? 2. Is there anyway to get LatinByrd to do just one conversion instead of producing both a gif and a tiff? Ah, I'd like to speed things up and it is taking about 30 seconds per image to do a convertion. (The project requires conversions at 10 seconds per image to be viable.) 3. Offhand, will xv, the public domain image program for UNIX, work with NeXT tiffs? 4. Is there a way to tell Latinb Byrd you don't want Progressive jpegs, just the old run of the mill jpegs (I'd like to use JPEGS instead of gifs but I can't even load a Latin Byrd jpg into Paint Shop Pro.) Thanks, Emmett
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to monitor RAM activity and system resources Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 14:53:50 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kntBCye00UhBI1zadT@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5s19fd$ovf@slip.net> In-Reply-To: <5s19fd$ovf@slip.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Aug-97 How to monitor RAM activity.. by Emmett McLean@slip.net > Is there a program which monitors RAM activity and > system resources? Others have mentioned KPerfMon and Monitor-- I use & recommend the former. If you want to get more specific details, bring up a Terminal window, and check out vm_stat, hostinfo, netstat, iostat. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Alternative to OmniWeb for Cyrix processors Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 16:05:52 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <YntCGU_00UhB01zY10@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <82602AAA75F12FDE.B4468E02863F7C30.12C9819416711DB6@library-proxy.airnews.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.sysadmin: 1-Aug-97 Alternative to OmniWeb for .. by Michael@metronet.com > I have a white-box with a Cyrix 150+ processor in it that refuses to run > OmniWeb <any version>. I understand that this is a know problem with > certain threading issues and the Cyrix processor. Is there any > alternative web browser that works? I'd imagine Lynx would work okay. If you want a graphical web browser, you could try Netsurfer, but Netsurfer is also pretty heavily threaded, and it's likely that you're going to run into the same type of problem. Basicly, Cyrix is lying about their CPU's being Intel-compatible, and they are doing their very best to ignore the threading problem Cyrix systems running NEXTSTEP encounter. > If not, I wonder if I can port a version of Netscape for some other unix > OS. A) It probably wouldn't help, since Netscape is also threaded. B) Good luck doing the port-- I don't think NS is particularly interested...still, there would be a ton of NEXTSTEP people (including me) who would love to see it.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: louis@orb.isdn.emory.edu (Louis Leon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tiff to gif or jmp from command line Date: 3 Aug 1997 20:21:13 GMT Organization: Emory University Message-ID: <5s2p7p$lh7@lendl.cc.emory.edu> References: <5s2l5e$rmk@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5s2l5e$rmk@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > Hi, > > I'm considering setting up a live-cam web site. > > I'm running a ND 40/64. > > I'd like to modify the program Capture and then > convert the tif files it writes into gifs or jpgs. > The idea is that I'd run a chron job or something > which would move the Cature anim directory and > then would run some app to convert the tiffs. > > Questions : > I have no answers to your questions, but a suggestion of a different means to your ends. Run $APPS/NDCamera.0.21.N.bsd/Examples/NDCSingleRemoteGrab/NDCSingleRemoteGrab. When you start it up, if memory serves me correctly, you can specify the file names it will save to; the point being that it can increment the file names - a necessary prerequiste for the anim directory. But I don't create a anim directory next. Instead, I run: ls -t $HTTPD/htdocs/images/images.*.tiff | head - 1 | $NETPBM/bin/tifftopnm | $NETPBM/bin/ppmquant 256| $NETPBM/bin/ppmtogif > $HTTPD/htdocs/images/image.gif And then, in my $HTTPD/htdocs/Channel35/index.html file I have a statement: <img src="/images/image.gif"><br> This is accessed via the url http://"webserver"/Channel35 I have everything running off cron, so that the image is updated every minute or so. This was a terse description, but I hope you find it useful. -- Louis Leon
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tgl@netcom.com (Tom Lane) Subject: Re: tiff to gif or jmp from command line Message-ID: <TGL.97Aug3224657@netcom14.netcom.com> Sender: tgl@netcom14.netcom.com Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services References: <5s2l5e$rmk@slip.net> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 05:46:56 GMT emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes: > 3. Offhand, will xv, the public domain image program for > UNIX, work with NeXT tiffs? Not the jpeg-compressed flavor; but it should load uncompressed TIFFs OK. > 4. Is there a way to tell Latinb Byrd you don't want > Progressive jpegs, just the old run of the mill > jpegs (I'd like to use JPEGS instead of gifs > but I can't even load a Latin Byrd jpg into > Paint Shop Pro.) If LatinByrd *doesn't* have a way to control this, it definitely *should*, because a lot of programs don't speak progressive JPEG yet. But Paint Shop Pro does ... you need to get a newer version of PSP. regards, tom lane organizer, Independent JPEG Group
From: Matthew Reichman <mreichman@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail.app on NS3.3 and those damn read receipts! Date: 4 Aug 1997 16:47:50 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Message-ID: <5s513m$ktf@chile.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm running Mail.app on NS3.3. Since a long time I've had Mail.app running with the "ReadReceiptsOption" at "never". But recently I've noticed that requests for read receipts have been processed and sent out anyway. I hate this! Has anyone else noticed this? Is there something that can be done about it? -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <mreichman@earthlink.net> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
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From: Maurice van Steensel <m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: NS3.2 or 3.3 user/developer Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 13:48:25 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Message-ID: <33E64019.151E@antrg.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I had a deal with someone who could provide me with NS3.2 But something went wrong and now I am still looking for NS3.2 or 3.3. If possible also NeXTIME. Can someone help me? Thanks Maurice van Steensel NeXTforever!
From: Brent Clothier <bclothie@uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: NeXTStep 3.3 User/Developer for Intel Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 11:47:01 -0500 Organization: Shouting Ground Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <33E60785.26F4D1A7@uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking to buy the following CD's: (1) NeXTStep 3.3 User for Intel (boot floppies preferred) (2) NeXTStep 3.3 Developer for Intel Email me with you offer. Thank-you Brent bclothie@uiuc.edu
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app on NS3.3 and those damn read receipts! Date: 4 Aug 1997 21:32:49 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5s5hq1$1ct$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5s513m$ktf@chile.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mreichman@earthlink.net In <5s513m$ktf@chile.earthlink.net> Matthew Reichman wrote: > I'm running Mail.app on NS3.3. Since a long time I've had Mail.app > running with the "ReadReceiptsOption" at "never". But recently I've > noticed that requests for read receipts have been processed and sent out > anyway. > > I hate this! > > > Has anyone else noticed this? Is there something that can be done about > it? It might have something to do with the capitalization. I use this: dwrite Mail ReadReceiptOption ASK and it works just dandy-fine. TjL
From: Robert Gibson Jacobs <rjacobs@voyager.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 vs OS 4 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:55:19 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Sender: rjacobs@apollo1.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.970804145038.7258B-100000@apollo1.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have to reinstall my operating system and am trying to decide whether to reinstall NS 3.3 or to jump up to OpenStep 4. Can someone tell me the major differences? Will all my NS 3.3 apps run on OpenStep? What are the reasons I should/shouldn't go to OpenStep? Thanks. Robert rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
From: Timothy J Luoma <nospam+peak@luomat.peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Note to whoever uploaded 'Scrapper.app.tar.gz' to PEAK Date: 4 Aug 1997 21:42:12 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/next Message-ID: <5s5ibk$1ct$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone uploaded a file 'Scrapper.app.tar.gz' with no README (and none inside the .tar.gz) and I can't get the program to run. Cannot exec /private/tmp/O_Scrapper_app/Scrapper.app/Scrapper : Bad executable (or shared library) This is on OpenStep 4.1 It looks like it might be for NEXTSTEP-J but I am not sure. If you know who uploaded this, please let me know. TjL
From: deke@students.uiuc.edu (john gregory deke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is OpenStep *that* good? Date: 5 Aug 1997 00:32:02 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <5s5sa2$1f4$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I've read several posts about how wonderful OpenStep is. Some people have said that its as easy as making a HyperCard stack. Others say that its easier than using Access Basic. Now, I can make HyperCard stacks and I can use Access Basic to make nice little database applications. The problem with these two environments is that they're slow (interpreted languages) and, of course, Access and VB aren't available for the Mac. What I'd really like to be able to do is create an interface in a nice painless environment like HyperCard, have all of the interface code completely taken care of so that I don't have to see it, and just focus on writing the code that does what I need done (mostly matrix algebra and econometrics stuff). Can OpenStep really do this? I should also say that I tried to use PowerPlant and was sorely disapointed. I was still confronted with having to worry about a bunch of interface code that I do not want to even have to look at. If I want a button, I want to be able to drag an icon of a button, drop it in a window where I want it, and then click on the button, see a blank window come up asking me to fill in the code for what should happen when this button is clicked. Thats it. I really want it to be as easy as HyperCard. Now, if it turns out that its as great as people say it is, I will go around to everyone I know who is fed up with Microsoft tools (and there are several of them) and convince them that they should investigate Rhapsody for Intel when it comes out. But, I do not want to look like a fool and discover that OpenStep isn't significantly better than PowerPlant. So, you people who have experience: Whats the real deal here? Is this thing as revolutionarily easy to use as its made out to be? I would be happy if people were to even rudely accuse me of being a lazy whiner who expects too much from a development environment -- that would be a very informative answer to my question. (seriously, it really would) All informed opinions are welcome. Thanks, John -- John Deke deke@students.uiuc.edu
From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Alternative to OmniWeb for Cyrix processors Date: 4 Aug 1997 17:29:12 -0700 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5s5s4o$r7@mpaque.mpaque> References: <YntCGU_00UhB01zY10@andrew.cmu.edu> The underlying problem with OPENSTEP/Mach and the Cyrex processors is that the machine state thrown on the stack during certain types of exceptions (the 'exception frame') isn't byte for byte identical to that thrown by other processors. The code that has to dig through this state and construct thread states, determine if continuations are possible, and in particular, determine intstruction restart/continuation criteria, is thrown off by the unexpected differences. Microsoft was able to obtain information on identifying the differences in the exception frame between Cyrex and other vendor's chips. Itty bitty little companies not generating millions of units in sales aren't so priviledged. Conspiracy theorists can make of this what they will... -- Mike Paquette (mpaque AT wco.com ; Yank that .spa-am and nospam to reply.) Well, if there *were* anything to say, it would be with the understanding that the PR/Marketing people want to make the announcements on products, so anything I have to say wouldn't actually exist until after then, so what I might have to say now doesn't exist, and what I may say in future can't be said, so theoretically what exists, doesn't, for the immediate future. (With apologies to Joe Straczynski)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs OS 4 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 20:28:03 -0400 Organization: IAASCAT Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970804202518.26160G-100000@luomat.peak.org> References: <Pine.HPP.3.95.970804145038.7258B-100000@apollo1.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Robert Gibson Jacobs <rjacobs@voyager.Stanford.EDU> In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.970804145038.7258B-100000@apollo1.Stanford.EDU> On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Robert Gibson Jacobs wrote: > I have to reinstall my operating system and am trying to decide whether > to reinstall NS 3.3 or to jump up to OpenStep 4. Can someone tell me the > major differences? I went from 3.3 to 4.1 and do not notice any major difference at all. 4.x is apparently a lot easier to install on Intels. > Will all my NS 3.3 apps run on OpenStep? OpenStep/Mach, yes. > What are the reasons I should/shouldn't go to OpenStep? If this is black hardware there might be some slowdown with OpenStep... someone explained this once as being due to the fact that the NeXTStep libraries and the OpenStep libraries have to be loaded into the memory. If you have OpenStep, there's no reason not to try it. However: I have found that 3.3dev is much more useful for compiling generic UNIX stuff than 4.x dev. TjL
From: marcel@system.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is OpenStep *that* good? Date: 5 Aug 1997 05:46:27 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5s6enj$n2$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5s5sa2$1f4$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <5s5sa2$1f4$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> deke@students.uiuc.edu (john gregory deke) writes: > What I'd really like to be able to do is create an interface in a nice > painless environment like HyperCard, have all of the interface code > completely taken care of so that I don't have to see it, and just focus > on writing the code that does what I need done (mostly matrix algebra > and econometrics stuff). Can OpenStep really do this? Yup. > I should also say that I tried to use PowerPlant and was sorely > disapointed. I was still confronted with having to worry about a bunch > of interface code that I do not want to even have to look at. If I want > a button, I want to be able to drag an icon of a button, drop it in a > window where I want it, and then click on the button, see a blank window > come up asking me to fill in the code for what should happen when this > button is clicked. Thats it. I really want it to be as easy as HyperCard. Well, the window doesn't pop up, you do have to create any source files yourself. On the other hand, you don't have to write code for buttons, you just connect them to objects/methods visually. If it's an AppKit provided method you want to connect to, there's no code to write. > Now, if it turns out that its as great as people say it is, I will go > around to everyone I know who is fed up with Microsoft tools (and there > are several of them) and convince them that they should investigate > Rhapsody for Intel when it comes out. But, I do not want to look like a > fool and discover that OpenStep isn't significantly better than > PowerPlant. Significantly better isn't quite the term I'd use...how about not even close! I had to port a simple filter to the Mac last year using PowerPlant, and found the experience to be quite painful, though the automatic AppleScript support is very nice. Marcel
From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs OS 4 Date: 5 Aug 1997 06:56:05 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <5s6iq5$hli$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <Pine.HPP.3.95.970804145038.7258B-100000@apollo1.Stanford.EDU> <Pine.NXT.3.96.970804202518.26160G-100000@luomat.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > Will all my NS 3.3 apps run on OpenStep? > > OpenStep/Mach, yes. This is a question I've always wanted to ask. Are you sure about this? To me it seems that NeXT made changes to the old style shared libs which break a couple of real old applications like Schematik, TextArt and VOID. library/minor version 3.3 4.2 libIndexing_s.A.shlib 38 44 libInterceptor_s.A.shlib 20 36 libMedia_s.A.shlib 42 44 libNeXT_s.C.shlib 115 125 libdbkit_s.A.shlib 80 80 libdsp_s.A.shlib 18 18 libmusic_s.A.shlib 20 missing! libni_s.A.shlib 25 28 libnw_s.A.shlib 30 30 libsys_s.B.shlib 87 117 The major versions remained the same but as you can see a lot of minor changes have been made. Minor changes should not cause any incompatibilities but Schematik, for example, was linked against libNeXT_s major version C and minor version 50 something and doesn't work anymore. -- Erik Dörnenburg -- OBJECT FACTORY -- Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH -- http://www.object-factory.com/~erik
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From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Ph client for openstep? Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:42:12 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Message-ID: <msg107074.thr-34dc7b.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <msg107074.thr-34dc7b.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> I just found a 3.03 version of Ph client software for Next, but's compile= d only for black and I'd like to run it on white. It included the source,= but won't compile in PB--reporting an error" dpsclien/dpsclient.h not fo= und" in Animator.h. Attempting to compile at the command line results in: barcelona> make install = Making info.subproj = /usr/bin/compresshelp ../Ph.app/English.lproj/Help -o .././Ph.app/../Ph.a= pp/English.lproj/Help.store Building store file info... Compressing 224 = files from: ../Ph.app/English.lproj/Help Collapsing common files... Writi= ng files... Writing TOC (table of contents)... Saving store to: '.././Ph.app/../Ph.app/English.lproj/Help.s= tore'... cc -static -g -Wall -O -I../sym -I../sym/info.subp= roj -arch i386 -I. -c Animator.m -o ../i386_obj/info.subproj/Animator.o = Animator.h:9: header file 'dpsclient/dpsclient.h' not found Animator.h:14: undefined type, found `D= PSTimedEntry' Animator.m:33: header file 'appkit/Application.h' not found= Animator.m:41: undefined type, found `DPSTimedEntry' Animator.m:158: und= efined type, found `NXEvent' *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. = I've looked over the source, but since I'm new to Openstep and have never= dealt with the old libraries, I'm completely at a loss. Does anyone know= of a newer version that might be available? I don't readily see anything= at Peanuts (does anyone else think that Peanuts is organized like and old postoffice? I can NEVER find what = I'm looking for. What's the difference between "apps" directories and "pr= ograms" directories--both within the same directory?) Thanks. -- = David Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren/ Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology MaBell:(802) 443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 dot syntax sux
From: Fergus.Doherty@nottingham.ac.uk (Fergus Doherty) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Web Objects advice wanted Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 14:29:30 +0100 Organization: Nottingham University Message-ID: <Fergus.Doherty-ya02408000R0608971429300001@news.nottingham.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is my first post to this group. I'm not a Next user. I am looking at WWW-based courseware that helps you create WWW based courses, but I was wondering if Web Objects would be any good at this? I was thinking it might be help in linking in to databases of student names, usernames and details, that it could create HTML on the fly from a database etc. Could it be used to create self-assessment exercises (from a database of questions? Do you get my drift? Has anyone done this kind of thing with Web Objects? TIA Fergus -- Fergus Doherty, Dept Biochemistry, Nottingham University, Fergus.Doherty@nottingham.ac.uk 0115 970 9366 (74-41366 internal)
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tiff to gif or jmp from command line Date: 5 Aug 1997 20:22:30 GMT Organization: Customer of EUnet/PING Austria Message-ID: <5s8226$cpu$1@news.Austria.EU.net> References: <5s2l5e$rmk@slip.net> In-Reply-To: <5s2l5e$rmk@slip.net> On 08/03/97, Emmett McLean wrote: > 4. Is there a way to tell Latinb Byrd you don't want > Progressive jpegs [...] Of course there is a way. I wonder how one can overlook this. When you open a TIFF or EPS with LatinByrd, it presents both GIF/PNG and JPEG versions in the Image Conversion panel. In the panel's 'JPEG Options' box, there's a switch labelled 'Progressive'. Just (de)activate this switch to your liking, click Apply!, then save the image. In addition, you can set the default state for the 'Progressive' option in the Image preferences (Command-5). > 1. Is it possible, with Latin Byrd, to convert > a tiff file to another format from the unix > command line (as in a shell script)? Nope... > 2. Is there anyway to get LatinByrd to do just > one conversion instead of producing both a > gif and a tiff? [...] ^^^^ should read 'jpeg' ...and nope once more. *** B U T *** You don't need LatinByrd at all for your task at hand. The following command line will do the job: tifftopnm myImage.tiff | cjpeg -quality 75 > myImage.jpeg Notes: tifftopnm is part of the NETPBM toolkit (freeware). cjpeg is part of the IJG software (freeware). A copy of cjpeg (compiled quad-fat) is contained in LatinByrd's app wrapper. For higher compression, try -quality 50 or even -quality 25. If your cam is a B/W one, then add the -grayscale option. This will yield even more compact jpeg images. Hope this helps, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://members.ping.at/stefan/
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From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Ph client for openstep? Date: 6 Aug 1997 16:29:39 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5sa8pj$cpc@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <msg107074.thr-34dc7b.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu In <msg107074.thr-34dc7b.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> David Herren wrote: > I just found a 3.03 version of Ph client software for Next, but's compile= d only for black and I'd like to run it on white. It included the source,= but won't compile in PB--reporting an error" dpsclien/dpsclient.h not fo= und" in Animator.h. You could either find a machine running 3.x and compile it there, or you'll need to convert the app to use the Openstep API. From the error messages you posted, looks like its complaining about dps timed entries, which have been replaced by the NSTimer object in Openstep. The conversion routines that ship with Openstep do a pretty good job at converting the code for you, so may not have to tweek too much code yourself. -- |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Mark Trombino | J A M S o f t | | mtrombin@ix.netcom.com | Audio DSP Tools for Openstep & Rhapsody | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
From: "Georges Tarbouriech" <aeroport.biarritz@hol.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to use Tandberg SCSI tape with Black 3.2 ? Date: 6 Aug 1997 17:31:44 GMT Message-ID: <01bca28d$d8dafd10$07ac2ac0@pcdev> References: <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com> Rebecca <beccaray@geocities.com> a écrit dans l'article <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com>... > Hi all, > > I have a Tandberg 250 meg SCSI tape drive that is being unusable with my > turbo color station. Any suggestions on how to get it to work. I know > there is a way becasue I've used it before, but the script that set it > up got eaten in the Hard Drive crash. Any help on this would be greatly > appreciated. > > Peace, > > James > Hi James, I may have a part of the answer; I use a Tandberg Panther 5000 and I spent some time to make it work on a Next station. It seems to be a problem of size of blocks. So, first try a cpio or find -cpio command; the answer usually is : "can't read input". Then, type a cpio -itv </dev/your dev; same answer as before . Rewind the tape (let's say you're using nrst0, for instance) typing : "mt -f /dev/your dev rewind". Last, change the blocksize : stblocksize -v /dev/your dev; the answer is :blocksize has been set to 0 . At that time, you can retype the first command, either cpio or find; it should work ! At least I hope. Probably, there are others and better solutions, but this is the only one I found. Usually, your streamer works fine as long as you don't stop the computer; of course after a new start, you'll have to do the same again ! Good luck Georges Tarbouriech
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Is OpenStep *that* good? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EEH0E9.p7q@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 02:32:33 GMT References: <5s5sa2$1f4$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5s5sa2$1f4$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, john gregory deke <deke@students.uiuc.edu> wrote: > >What I'd really like to be able to do is create an interface in a nice >painless environment like HyperCard, have all of the interface code >completely taken care of so that I don't have to see it, and just focus >on writing the code that does what I need done (mostly matrix algebra >and econometrics stuff). Can OpenStep really do this? > Yep--no problem. You decide on the objects you want, make them, write a little code to go inside them (or a lot of code if your matrix algebra is really hard-core) and visually connect them up in IB. I don't have much experience with the EOF database connectivity (most of my NS programming experience was under 3.2 and earlier) but it looks pretty simple to deal with. >I should also say that I tried to use PowerPlant and was sorely >disapointed. I was still confronted with having to worry about a bunch >of interface code that I do not want to even have to look at. If I want >a button, I want to be able to drag an icon of a button, drop it in a >window where I want it, and then click on the button, see a blank window >come up asking me to fill in the code for what should happen when this >button is clicked. Thats it. I really want it to be as easy as HyperCard. > That isn't really the way it works. You drag the button over and then connect it to another object. That object can be NeXT-supplied, third-party supplied, or your own (in which case you have to write some code.) There *is* a thing for NS called HyperSense that is very HyperCard-like and I think in its more recent incarnations can talk to databases and such. I haven't played with it in the last three years or so so I can't really comment further. Oh yes--above where I said "NeXTSTEP" you can substitute "OPENSTEP" if you want. :) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: bshieh@raroc.com (Bryan Shieh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Installing Perl on Intel system Date: 6 Aug 1997 22:00:05 GMT Organization: Bank of America Message-ID: <5sas55$hvp$1@cgs1.bankamerica.com> Does anyone know of any special inatallation instructions to get Perl running on an Intel machine. I downloaded a compiled version of the program from http://www.peak.org/next/apps/devtools/perl and installed it, however, I seem to be missing a step because after the installation was completed, my Perl scripts still won't run. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bryan Shieh
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Installing Perl on Intel system Date: 7 Aug 1997 00:58:25 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5sb6jh$342$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5sas55$hvp$1@cgs1.bankamerica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bshieh@raroc.com In <5sas55$hvp$1@cgs1.bankamerica.com> Bryan Shieh wrote: > however, I seem to be missing a step because after the installation was > completed, my Perl scripts still won't run. Do the scripts point to where perl actually lives? ie checkout the first line #!/usr/bin/perl or whatever.... different systems assume perl to be in different locations. I don't know if that's it, but it might be. TjL -- Gates isn't dumb, he knows Apple's survival means he can keep the anti-monopoly folks at bay. Thinking he has any more interest in Apple than that is highly-optimistic.
From: chrish@cc.usu.edu (PUNCHOUT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: NS 3.3 usr/developer + manuals Message-ID: <0HFiQExEFtt8@cc.usu.edu> Date: 6 Aug 97 19:05:01 MDT Organization: Utah State University I would like to purchase the CD's and manuals if possible for NS 3.3 + NS 3.3 developer. I would also be interested in purchasing the manuals for a TurboSlab color if anyone has them. Thanks. BlackWare is sooooo cool. -- Christian Shank Nothing special... No titles or honoraria CHRISH@CC.USU.EDU Quote? I have no stinking quote! The opinions contained above are mine and mine alone, they are in no way associated with anyone I work for, have worked with, ever will work for or with, nor are the opinions of those I work for or with mine, nor have they been mine nor will they be mine nor are my opinions yours or yours mine, nor is anything I've written to be considered my opinion since I'm an unwilling victim of alien mind control.
From: owolf@NOSPAMpdnt.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help needed installing GateKeeper 2.1 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 00:00:50 -0500 Organization: Orange Wolf Software Message-ID: <owolf-ya02408000R0708970000500001@news.pdnt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm attempting to install GateKeeper 2.1 on OpenStep 4.2 (running on Black Hardware) and I keep getting "Running installation program ... /private/tmp/.GateKeeper.tmp/GateKeeper.preinstall:Permission denied." I'm installing it as root and I haven't had any problems installing software before. I also get the same error attempting to install dcPPP demo software. Any help would be appreciated. Scott Johnson
From: owolf@NOSPAMpdnt.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Alternative to OmniWeb for Cyrix processors Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 00:18:30 -0500 Organization: Orange Wolf Software Message-ID: <owolf-ya02408000R0708970018300001@news.pdnt.com> References: <82602AAA75F12FDE.B4468E02863F7C30.12C9819416711DB6@library-proxy.airnews.net> <YntCGU_00UhB01zY10@andrew.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <YntCGU_00UhB01zY10@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: >> If not, I wonder if I can port a version of Netscape for some other unix >> OS. > >A) It probably wouldn't help, since Netscape is also threaded. >B) Good luck doing the port-- I don't think NS is particularly >interested...still, there would be a ton of NEXTSTEP people (including >me) who would love to see it.... You could always get the source code for Mosaic (which Netscape is based from) from the University of Illinois archives (uiarchives.cso.uiuc.edu, I think) and attempt to do the port that way. But if threads aren't supported on Cyrix processors then I think your SOL. Scott Johnson
From: owolf@NOSPAMpdnt.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can't Install GateKeeper 2.1 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 23:51:55 -0500 Organization: Orange Wolf Software Message-ID: <owolf-ya02408000R0608972351550001@news.pdnt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm attempting to install GateKeeper 2.1 on OpenStep 4.2 (running on Black Hardware) and I keep getting "Running installation program ... /private/tmp/.GateKeeper.tmp/GateKeeper.preinstall:Permission denied." I'm installing it as root and I haven't had any problems installing software before. I also get the same error attempting to install dcPPP demo software. Any help would be appreciated. Scott Johnson
From: Valentino_Kyriakides@public.uni-hamburg.de (Valentino Kyriakides) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: kaffe.0.8.4 and NS 3.3 m68k Date: 7 Aug 1997 13:10:59 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Message-ID: <5schh3$222$2@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Can somebody tell me (or verify) if kaffe version 0.8.4 works correctly under NS 3.3 m68k (black hardware)? Thanks in advance Valentino ________________________________________________________________ Valentino Kyriakides Universitaet Hamburg, FB. Informatik Arbeitsbereich Softwaretechnik ________________________________________________________________ E-Mail: 1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (ASCII, MIME) NeXTmail: Valentino_Kyriakides@public.uni-hamburg.de ________________________________________________________________
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Installing Perl on Intel system Date: 7 Aug 1997 14:31:37 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5scm89$iq2@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5sas55$hvp$1@cgs1.bankamerica.com> In article <5sas55$hvp$1@cgs1.bankamerica.com> bshieh@raroc.com (Bryan Shieh) writes: > Does anyone know of any special inatallation instructions to get Perl > running on an Intel machine. I downloaded a compiled version of the > program from http://www.peak.org/next/apps/devtools/perl and installed > it, however, I seem to be missing a step because after the installation > was completed, my Perl scripts still won't run. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I think that perl package requires the Developer tools to be installed, in order to be able to install itself properly. Try installing again, And watch the log instead of the progress meter, and take note of anomolous error messages. Good luck. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: kaffe.0.8.4 and NS 3.3 m68k Date: 7 Aug 1997 16:29:02 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5sct4e$cok$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5schh3$222$2@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Valentino_Kyriakides@public.uni-hamburg.de In <5schh3$222$2@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Valentino Kyriakides wrote: > Can somebody tell me (or verify) if kaffe version 0.8.4 works correctly > under NS 3.3 m68k (black hardware)? Well, it has been compiled: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/java/kaffe.0.8.4.NIS.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/java/kaffe.0.8.4.README You might want to check that out. -- Gates isn't dumb, he knows Apple's survival means he can keep the anti-monopoly folks at bay. Thinking he has any more interest in Apple than that is highly-optimistic.
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From: "Georges Tarbouriech" <aeroport.biarritz@hol.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to use Tandberg SCSI tape with Black 3.2 ? Date: 7 Aug 1997 18:13:51 GMT Message-ID: <01bca35d$af4ee300$94029ac3@pcdev> References: <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com> Rebecca <beccaray@geocities.com> a écrit dans l'article <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com>... > Hi all, > > I have a Tandberg 250 meg SCSI tape drive that is being unusable with my > turbo color station. Any suggestions on how to get it to work. I know > there is a way becasue I've used it before, but the script that set it > up got eaten in the Hard Drive crash. Any help on this would be greatly > appreciated. > > Peace, > > James > Hi James, I may have a part of the answer; I use a Tandberg Panther 5000 and I spent some time to make it work on a Next station. It seems to be a problem of size of blocks. So, first try a cpio or find -cpio command; the answer usually is : "can't read input". Then, type a cpio -itv </dev/your dev; same answer as before . Rewind the tape (let's say you're using nrst0, for instance) typing : "mt -f /dev/your dev rewind". Last, change the blocksize : stblocksize -v /dev/your dev; the answer is :blocksize has been set to 0 . At that time, you can retype the first command, either cpio or find; it should work ! At least I hope. Probably, there are others and better solutions, but this is the only one I found. Usually, your streamer works fine as long as you don't stop the computer; of course after a new start, you'll have to do the same again ! Good luck Georges Tarbouriech
From: Aled Davies <aled.davies@bigfoot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs OS 4 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 19:55:24 +0000 Organization: Connectivity (but not content) by PSINet UK Message-ID: <33EA282C.1B257ED9@bigfoot.com> References: <Pine.HPP.3.95.970804145038.7258B-100000@apollo1.Stanford.EDU> <Pine.NXT.3.96.970804202518.26160G-100000@luomat.peak.org> <5s6iq5$hli$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <5s8b18$7lh$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > In <5s6iq5$hli$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Erik Doernenburg wrote: > > "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > > > Will all my NS 3.3 apps run on OpenStep? > > > > > > OpenStep/Mach, yes. > > > > This is a question I've always wanted to ask. Are you sure about this? To > me > > it seems that NeXT made changes to the old style shared libs which break a > > couple of real old applications like Schematik, TextArt and VOID. > > Actually I do not know this personally, since my 4.1 machine is an Intel, and > my black is still running 3.3 > > I'd like to know what the answer is, now that you mention it.... > > TjL > > ps -- there was a thread 'Re: 4.2 = Game Over?' at the end of June that dealt > with shlibs also. Having only used NS 3.3 I was wondering, did the interface change between NS 3.3 and OS 4.2. On the Web I've seen a couple of screen shots with a tabbed dock and different windows styles. Some have the comment that this was the beta interface and was never implemented. Is this true ?? Also did any of the aplications get changed/removed ?? Aled
From: "Deborah Grits" <grits@apple.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Web Objects advice wanted Date: 7 Aug 97 13:21:21 -0700 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <B00F7C56-14FE0A@17.203.20.189> References: <Fergus.Doherty-ya02408000R0608971429300001@news.nottingham.ac. uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fergus, You might want to subscribe to a WebObjects list server. Check out the following: <http://www.omnigroup.com/MailArchive/WebObjects/> Deborah
From: bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu.nospam (Chris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How much is Openstep for Intel ? Date: 7 Aug 1997 23:08:02 GMT Organization: Ice Station Zebra Message-ID: <bear-0708971613570001@macleec.llnl.gov> Would someone tell me how much Openstep 4.1 (? newest) User or User/Developer is for an Intel machine ? I have a NeXT colorstation running 3.2 and would like to have my 166MHz Pentium running a NeXT OS. The NeXT/Apple Enterprises web site is suprisingly unhelpful. Thanks Chris
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs OS 4 Date: 7 Aug 1997 23:43:40 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5sdmjc$q2o$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <Pine.HPP.3.95.970804145038.7258B-100000@apollo1.Stanford.EDU> <Pine.NXT.3.96.970804202518.26160G-100000@luomat.peak.org> <5s6iq5$hli$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <5s8b18$7lh$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <33EA282C.1B257ED9@bigfoot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: aled.davies@bigfoot.com In <33EA282C.1B257ED9@bigfoot.com> Aled Davies wrote: > Having only used NS 3.3 I was wondering, did the interface change between > NS 3.3 and OS 4.2. On the Web I've seen a couple of screen shots with a > tabbed dock and different windows styles. Some have the comment that this > was the beta interface and was never implemented. Is this true ?? Yes, it is true that the interface change did not happen in the final release. > Also did any of the ap[p]lications get changed/removed ?? Not so's you'd notice. I went from 3.3 to 4.1 with no noticeable GUI changes. All the same apps are there AFAIK. TjL -- Gates isn't dumb, he knows Apple's survival means he can keep the anti-monopoly folks at bay. Thinking he has any more interest in Apple than that is highly-optimistic.
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs OS 4 Date: 8 Aug 1997 00:31:14 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5sdpci$d7a@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <33EA282C.1B257ED9@bigfoot.com> In article <33EA282C.1B257ED9@bigfoot.com> Aled Davies <aled.davies@bigfoot.com> writes: > Having only used NS 3.3 I was wondering, did the interface change > between NS 3.3 and OS 4.2. Nope. Only some of the OPENSTEPified apps have minor and more or less tasteless interface changes. > On the Web I've seen a couple of screen shots with a tabbed > dock and different windows styles. Some have the comment that this was the > beta interface and was never implemented. Is this true ?? Yep, burried -> but will partially reappear in Rhapsody. Some of the now OPENSTEPified apps are still showing screenshots from the beta version you mention (if these apps coincidentally happen to have an online help at all). No comment on this. > Also did any of the applications get changed/removed ?? Nothing has been removed compared to 3.3 except that Netware is now included as a separate package. Some applications (incl. several demo apps) have been OPENSTEPified. But that's just for fans... David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
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Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 09:51:48 -0600 From: Benoit.Marchant@questintl.com Subject: How to make gnumake paralel option work on 4.2 ? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <871051760.17821@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service To: next-prog@omnigroup.com,rhapsody-dev@omnigroup.com Hi, I try to use the gnumake -j paralel option to make compilation faster. I have to say it's pretty fast ... when it works. I first tested -j without limit -> it reach vfork limit of the system ? I tested it with -l option, not better .. Could someone give an explanation about how it is possible to use these option on 4.2 ? I only saw a mail from Art Isbell who had no answer ! Thanks in advance for that ! Benoit Marchant -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: "Deborah Grits" <grits@apple.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How much is Openstep for Intel ? Date: 8 Aug 97 10:10:22 -0700 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <B010A114-4E4D@17.203.20.189> References: <bear-0708971613570001@macleec.llnl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris, Call 1-800-TRY-NEXT. They can price this for you. Deborah >Would someone tell me how much Openstep 4.1 (? newest) >User or User/Developer is for an Intel machine ? >I have a NeXT colorstation running 3.2 and would like >to have my 166MHz Pentium running a NeXT OS. > >The NeXT/Apple Enterprises web site is suprisingly >unhelpful. > >Thanks >Chris >
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From: devan2m@imap2.asu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NXFax 1.04 Problem? Date: 8 Aug 1997 20:24:49 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <5sfvah$hnj@news.asu.edu> I have encountered a problem with NXFax 1.04 on my NeXT Turbo Colorstation (NTSC) using a SupraSonic 28.8/14.4 kbps data/fax modem that frankly has me battled and seems to be getting progressively worse. I would appreciate learning if this is a known problem or if there is a solution or fix for this. The problem so far seems to occur strictly with receiving incoming faxes from certain machines - usually the problem happens when attempting to receive from newer fax machines or computers. The NXFax software is unable to negotiate these incoming faxes whereas a retransmission to the Sharp fax machine can receive from the source machine without a problem on the same telephone line. Odder still, is the fact that I can successfully transmit faxes to these machines that present this problem for this configuration. On the other hand, trying to receive from said machines is impossible. This is a real pain is not knowing when an incoming source fax being used will caused this problem to arise. I have run into this a whole lot more in recent months. trying to get people to fax you back can be difficult when this failure occurs and NXFax has to be disabled in order to receive from them. Moreover, and seeing as the standalone fax machine is thermal, it would be much nicer to be able to make as many hard copies from using my NeXT printer. I have encountered this problem with the same source fax machines regardless of what line and in what city I set my configuration up in. I even think I tried this a while back with a ZyXEL 1496E modem and still encountered the same problem. Why is this set-up able to successfully transmit faxes to a machine but not receive faxes from the same machine? Thanks to all in advance!
From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs OS 4 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 22:32:31 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970808223037.2363B-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> References: <33EA282C.1B257ED9@bigfoot.com> <5sdpci$d7a@hal.nexttoyou.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5sdpci$d7a@hal.nexttoyou.de> On 8 Aug 1997, David Andel wrote: > In article <33EA282C.1B257ED9@bigfoot.com> Aled Davies > > > Also did any of the applications get changed/removed ?? > > Nothing has been removed compared to 3.3 except that Netware is now included > as a separate package. Some applications (incl. several demo apps) have been > OPENSTEPified. But that's just for fans... > > David Andel > NEXTTOYOU Magazine So you say that Netware support has been included again in 4.2? 4.1 DOES NOT include Netware support. Regards Konstantin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs OS 4 Date: 8 Aug 1997 21:05:28 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5sg1mo$mh4@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970808223037.2363B-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> In article <Pine.NXT.3.95.970808223037.2363B-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de> writes: > So you say that Netware support has been included again in 4.2? > 4.1 DOES NOT include Netware support. 4.2 does (but I do not use Netware): /OPENSTEP_4.2/NextCD/Packages/Netware.pkg David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Intel & Quotations.app / Anyone with 3.2/Intel out there? Date: 9 Aug 1997 06:25:09 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5sh2g5$nf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Curious: did the 3.2/Intel CD come with Quotations.app on it? TjL -- Gates isn't dumb, he knows Apple's survival means he can keep the anti-monopoly folks at bay. Thinking he has any more interest in Apple than that is highly-optimistic.
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From: d89cb@efd.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MP3 player ? Date: 5 Aug 1997 19:46:40 GMT Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden Message-ID: <5s7vv0$dag$1@news.lth.se> References: <5rqdmc$k2u@portal.gmu.edu> <5rr0m3$ofg$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <33E14455.5DFE1D7A@cyberspace.org> NNTP-Posting-User: d89cb In article <33E14455.5DFE1D7A@cyberspace.org>, Windchaser <windchsr@cyberspace.org> wrote: >Frank M. Siegert wrote: > >> I am sure you mean MPEG I Layer 3 files... >> >> See http://www.this.net/~frank/ in the download area. It is a cmdline offline >> player (it renders firsts into a SND file for later playback), a m68k is too >> slow to render in realtime. > >That's untrue. I was able to play .mp3 files on my Amiga 3000 030/50. >The system slowed to a crawl, and multitasking was rough, but the sound >was fine (well, as good as you can expect from the Amiga's sound >hardware.) You wouldn't happen to have this software somewhere -- or an idea where it could be found (so that, perhaps, it could be adapted to black NeXT hardware) ? > >If an 030/50 with its audio hardware on a 7 MHz bus can handle it, >surely a Turbo system could? Best regards // Christian Brunschen
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wacom driver? Date: 6 Aug 1997 10:26:29 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5s9jgl$o86$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> I know there were a couple of graphics tablet drivers available around the time of NEXTSTEP 3.2/3.3 -- does anyone know of any which work for 4.2 (ideally with source code)? Best wishes, mmalc. --
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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs OS 4 Date: 10 Aug 1997 02:02:04 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Aug9214221@slave.doubleu.com> References: <Pine.HPP.3.95.970804145038.7258B-100000@apollo1.Stanford.EDU> <Pine.NXT.3.96.970804202518.26160G-100000@luomat.peak.org> <5sineh$1cf$1@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu> In-reply-to: koskya@umd.umich.edu's message of 9 Aug 1997 21:28:49 GMT In article <5sineh$1cf$1@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu>, koskya@umd.umich.edu (Alec Kosky) writes: Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@peak.org) wrote: : On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Robert Gibson Jacobs wrote: : > What are the reasons I should/shouldn't go to OpenStep? : : If this is black hardware there might be some slowdown with : OpenStep... someone explained this once as being due to the fact : that the NeXTStep libraries and the OpenStep libraries have to be : loaded into the memory. What kind of a slowdown are we talking? 5%? 25%? I've found the OpenStep-related slowdowns to be somewhat hard to pin down. In general, any NS3.x app which you just happen to run on OpenStep will run pretty close to the same speed as on NeXTSTEP. But most OpenStep-native apps are slower than their older NeXTSTEP counterparts. For instance, OpenStep's ProjectBuilder was an exercise in futility on black hardware last time I tried it - and I really wasn't happy with it until it was running on a PentiumPro150, where I felt it came up to what I was used to with NS3.3 on a Pentium133. If you want to turn that into an estimate, I'd say 30%-40% performance difference for ProjectBuilder. Unfortunately, that's hard to factor into much of anything, because it also involves differences in the build architectures, not just the ProjectBuilder itself. I don't doubt that libraries in memory have some relationship, but I think it's more related to the overall style of OpenStep programs versus NeXTSTEP programs. OpenStep made some tradeoffs related to ease-of-development versus speed versus memory footprint. Fortunately, I can't recall any time in the past when a 2x improvement in performance and memory size was so cheap as it is today. : However: I have found that 3.3dev is much more useful for : compiling generic UNIX stuff than 4.x dev. Why? Different set of tools? Better compiler/support? Mainly that the include files have moved and changed. There's some backwards compatibility stuff, but auto-configure code sometimes has fits. Sometimes if you configure under NS3.3, you can compile fine under OS4.x. Of doubtful utility, though, as NS3.3 executables run fine under OS4.x, so it's easier to just configure _and_ compile under NS3.3. Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs OS 4 Date: 5 Aug 1997 22:55:36 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5s8b18$7lh$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <Pine.HPP.3.95.970804145038.7258B-100000@apollo1.Stanford.EDU> <Pine.NXT.3.96.970804202518.26160G-100000@luomat.peak.org> <5s6iq5$hli$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: erik@object-factory.com In <5s6iq5$hli$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Erik Doernenburg wrote: > "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > > Will all my NS 3.3 apps run on OpenStep? > > > > OpenStep/Mach, yes. > > This is a question I've always wanted to ask. Are you sure about this? To me > it seems that NeXT made changes to the old style shared libs which break a > couple of real old applications like Schematik, TextArt and VOID. Actually I do not know this personally, since my 4.1 machine is an Intel, and my black is still running 3.3 I'd like to know what the answer is, now that you mention it.... TjL ps -- there was a thread 'Re: 4.2 = Game Over?' at the end of June that dealt with shlibs also.
From: kafkouli@zeus.fiu.edu (Yorgos Kafkoulis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: wacom tablet driver with 4.1??? Date: 6 Aug 1997 01:00:13 GMT Organization: Florida International University Message-ID: <5s8iat$hg6$1@isis.fiu.edu> Hello Is there a driver for using the WACOM 12X18 UD1218RSB with Openstep 4.1 for Intel? Thanks in advance George Kafkoulis FIU Mathematics Miami, FL Please reply to: kafkouli@zeus.fiu.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <9060870580820@digifix.com> Date: 10 Aug 1997 03:53:41 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <446871185624@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. 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From: kc@ignem.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs OS 4 Date: 10 Aug 1997 06:48:18 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5sjo7i$7ur$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <Pine.HPP.3.95.970804145038.7258B-100000@apollo1.Stanford.EDU> <SCOTT.97Aug9214221@slave.doubleu.com> Scott Hess (scott@doubleu.com) wrote: : I've found the OpenStep-related slowdowns to be somewhat hard to pin : down. In general, any NS3.x app which you just happen to run on : OpenStep will run pretty close to the same speed as on NeXTSTEP. But : most OpenStep-native apps are slower than their older NeXTSTEP : counterparts. To go one step further, I'd generalize this to "Foundation-based applications are slower than non-Foundation-based applications." Since OmniWeb and OmniPDF were already Foundation-based in NS3.3, the OpenStep versions didn't get any slower whatsoever (in fact, due to optimizations in Foundation between 3.3 and OpenStep the OpenStep versions appear to be faster). : : [Why is it easier to build generix UNIX stuff on 3.3 than 4.x?] : : Mainly that the include files have moved and changed. There's some : backwards compatibility stuff, but auto-configure code sometimes has : fits. Sometimes if you configure under NS3.3, you can compile fine : under OS4.x. Of doubtful utility, though, as NS3.3 executables run : fine under OS4.x, so it's easier to just configure _and_ compile under : NS3.3. This is actually one of the nice things about Rhapsody (as compared to OpenStep): since its UNIX environment is BSD 4.4, it's much easier to build generic UNIX stuff on Rhapsody than on NextStep/OpenStep. -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
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From: js@euler.han.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Concurrence Multipage Outline - How? Date: 11 Aug 1997 11:23:07 GMT Organization: Ink Unknown Message-ID: <5smsmr$ofp$1@beyond.han.de> Hi, I use Concurrence to produce multi-page outlines, mostly. Now I cannot easily create a 'designed' look for printing. What I mean is: if I try to create a corresponding SlideShow I get more slides than I ever want to have. Sure, I want to use the master-slide feature to add color etc. But I want the same text in the same order as in the outline. This is possible for an outline fitting on a single page. Just select the whole thing and do an Expand. But this seems to be impossible whenever the entire outline would yield many (more than one) pages. As Concurrence has got a good rep in this newsgroup, please tell me it can be done - and how. Thanks, Juergen
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From: "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Driver for the 6MP printer Date: 11 Aug 1997 12:50:15 GMT Organization: SCT / Worldnet - Internet Provider & Information Exchange - Paris, France Message-ID: <01bca655$8057cd00$040e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> Hello, How can I use my new Hewlett Packard 6MP (Postscript) printer ? I did'nt see the correct driver in the list of device drivers. May I use the 4MP driver ? Please, I'm waiting your answer... Laurent BARNILS SOLRAC FRANCE (solfra@worlnet.fr)
From: m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NE2000 card Date: 11 Aug 1997 08:56:00 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Message-ID: <5smk30$75j@hagen.amg.de> Hi out there, does anyone know how I can use my NE2000 networking card with my Intel (Intel only make problems,...). Which driver can I use ? Thanks a lot, bye Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de)
From: Jason Patrick <jason@4thdim.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X-windows terminal Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:47:21 -0500 Organization: Obsidian Realm - The Crazy Fellow Message-ID: <33EF17E8.6B9E6613@4thdim.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to run an X-terminal to access my NeXT cube, or is Openstep not really running X-windows? I can't seem to get it to work, I am trying X-win32 for 95/NT. Any help would be appreciated. Jason Patrick
From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: miftortf, anyone? Date: 11 Aug 1997 15:54:40 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5snck0$2808@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Years ago, I used to have a binary of miftortf, which converts from Maker Interchange Format to rtf. Now I seem to have lost it. Anyone know where it can be found? Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: Babak Ashrafi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: POP3Server Date: 11 Aug 1997 16:59:01 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5sngcl$rb9@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Is anyone using the POP3 server which comes with POVOver v1.5? Is it feasible for a turbo NeXT station running NS3.3 to act as a POP sever for 40 people who will be using Eudora on Windows machines across ethernet? Does POP3Server work on OS 4.2 in case I upgrade? Thanks in advance, Babak
From: Paul Buckley <buckley4@idt.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OCR software Date: 2 Aug 1997 20:58:10 GMT Organization: IDT Message-ID: <5s0712$k2u@nnrp2.farm.idt.net> Would someone remind me what is available, commercial or otherwise, for black hardware? Thanks -- _____________________________ Paul Buckley 515 W 59th St., Apt. 22K New York, NY 10019 E-mail: buckley4@idt.net Tel/Fax: 212-333-3382 _____________________________ Bernie Sanders: Does this concern you, the fact that we today have, by far, the most unequal distribution of wealth and income in the industrialized world? Alan Greenspan: Yes, the answer is it does concern me. It's not clear to me what monetary policy can do to alter that in any material way. In testimony before the House Banking Committee's Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy, March 5, 1997.
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From: devan2m@imap2.asu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXFax 1.04 Problem? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 12 Aug 1997 12:01:48 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <5spjbc$p52@news.asu.edu> References: <5sfvah$hnj@news.asu.edu> Problem Almost Identified But Not Solved Performed the binary Flash Upgrade available at Supra's Web Site to make this a 33.6 kbps modem. I first tested it by requesting a fax from Toshiba's automatic faxback service of available documents. Toshiba's Faxback direct number 1-800-403-2230. Previous using this combination, I had been able to receive faxes from Toshiba, however, each page following the first one would be scrunched. This was something that I didn't mention when initially describing the extent of the problems I have encountered with this configuration. At the time, I had an alternate and ancient Dove fax/modem which I then used to receive this and it would with no problem. Unfortunately and like before, the first page came out okay, but all subsequent pages were scrunched just like before from this source. This Toshiba fax system is the only one that I have come across that my configuration will receive but does this rather strange behavior. After encountering this again, I used the Sharp fax machine which is also connected to the line had no such problem receiving a transmission from the same source. It took awhile, but I finally was able to contact a gentleman who I have never been able to successfully receive from his Brother (model IntelliFAX 1250) brand fax machine into my computer using the NXFax and SupraSonic set-up. Unfortunately, it would not negioate and produce the same Console message that I have seen before in these instances. (Please see Console transaction below.) I am now really at a lost as to what to do. (Please note that I have received faxes from other sources since updating the ROM, but this still seems to be a hit or miss proposition depending on what hardware the sender is using. Just to be sure about the results I am receiving and that the culprit in this configuration is likely NXFax, I connected my ZyXEL U-1496E data/fax modem and then got the person with the fax machine that I can never receive from to send something again. After a failed initial start, I think the paper feed for the sender's machine got stuck the first time around. However, everything negotiated properly with this configuration the second time around. So there must be something about the SupraSonic's ROM, as one helpful reponse suggested, that NXFax doesn't like. I upgraded from the 28.8 to the 33.6 and hoped that this would solve the problem. Unfortunately, this did not do the trick and from what I can find at Supra's (Diamond Multimedia) Web sight, there have not been any new updates for this. -ROM VERSION- ati3 V1.440-25-V34_DS SupraSonic 336V+ Built: November 5 1996 14:59:25 OK -FAILED RECEIVING REPORT- %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: log trimmed to 1000 lines %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: owner:4057 users:1 %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: Stale lock file removed. %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: owner:4057 users:1 %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: Unknown modem %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: V1.440-25-V34_DS %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: loaded 1.04.1 Mon Aug 11 15:35:23 1997 %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: Copyright (c) Black & White Software Mon Apr 25 1994 08:21:50 GMT-0400 %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: wait for incoming call %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: activity on port Mon Aug 11 16:08:57 1997 %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: wait for connect %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: ring 1 %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: answer call %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: carrier not found on line %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: call complete %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: port freed Mon Aug 11 16:09:15 1997 %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: owner:4057 users:1 %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: Unknown modem %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: V1.440-25-V34_DS %> SupraSonic_NXFAX: wait for incoming call Kind Regards- devan2m@imap2.asu.edu wrote: : I have encountered a problem with NXFax 1.04 on my NeXT Turbo : Colorstation (NTSC) using a SupraSonic 28.8/14.4 kbps data/fax modem that : frankly has me battled and seems to be getting progressively worse. I : would appreciate learning if this is a known problem or if there is a : solution or fix for this. : The problem so far seems to occur strictly with receiving incoming faxes : from certain machines - usually the problem happens when attempting to : receive from newer fax machines or computers. The NXFax software is : unable to negotiate these incoming faxes whereas a retransmission to the : Sharp fax machine can receive from the source machine without a problem : on the same telephone line. Odder still, is the fact that I can : successfully transmit faxes to these machines that present this problem : for this configuration. On the other hand, trying to receive from said : machines is impossible. : This is a real pain is not knowing when an incoming source fax being used : will caused this problem to arise. I have run into this a whole lot more : in recent months. trying to get people to fax you back can be difficult : when this failure occurs and NXFax has to be disabled in order to receive : from them. Moreover, and seeing as the standalone fax machine is : thermal, it would be much nicer to be able to make as many hard copies : from using my NeXT printer. : I have encountered this problem with the same source fax machines : regardless of what line and in what city I set my configuration up in. I : even think I tried this a while back with a ZyXEL 1496E modem and still : encountered the same problem. : Why is this set-up able to successfully transmit faxes to a machine but : not receive faxes from the same machine? : Thanks to all in advance!
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From: devan2m@imap2.asu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXFax 1.04 Problem? Date: 13 Aug 1997 18:32:24 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <5ssujo$b3h@news.asu.edu> References: <5sfvah$hnj@news.asu.edu> <5spjbc$p52@news.asu.edu> Further Findings ... Thanks to everyone who has responsed with suggestions so far. Here is a particular exchange with one respondent that describes what I have since discovered. Thank you very much for your additional suggestions to take a look at the device settings and flow control for determining why the subsequent pages from this Toshiba faxback service are scrunched. This portion of the problem has me very curious too. However, I have a NeXT Turbo Colorstation and the proper 040 cable. I decided to check this again using the same Toshiba faxback reference system using the ZyXEL U-1496E modem to see if there may be something to your suspicions of a cabling problem. Sure enough, I found that this scrunched problem is still there. I think this is what I recalled happening before when I tried and confused this thinking that it would also mean that the ZyXEL would have the negotiating problem too with some incoming faxes. Thanks to you bringing it to my attention, I seem to have come across two problems which are not related. 1) Has to do with a compatibility problem between the SupraSonic (recently upgraded) 33.6 modem and NXFax 1.04 which prevents proper negotiations for incoming faxes of a particular type such as those encountered when trying to receive from the Brother IntelliFAX 1250. Transmitting or sending faxes to such machines does not present a problem for this combination. 2) Has to do either with a compatibility problem NXFax has with both the ZyXEL and SupraSonic or the flow control of the cable I am using since all faxing and testing I have done has been with the same cable. I switched between serial port A & B and received the same scrunched results ordering the "Index of Available Documents" from the Toshiba faxback service. (Again note that this did not occur with the trusty old DoveFax (2400/9600) or does it occur receiving with the Sharp UX-114 telephone/fax. Toshiba's faxback service (1-800-403-2230) always sends at 14400, but I have received 14400 from other sources using the SupraSonic and not encountered this scrunch problem. :Make sure you are using device /dev/cufa or /dev/cufb. :/dev/cua or /dev/cub will not work properly. Oddly enough, the cable being used was purchased for this very purpose from Black & White Software. However, one thing to note is that no one has every reported receiving scrunched faxes from me. As far as selecting which device is used, I generally use /dev/ttyb for making data modem connections at 57600 but have tested and received the same results using the /dev/ttya device designation. I am not sure how to check this for the fax mode to alter the device designation for hardware flow control. I always thought this was something protected. I use whatever the default is. If this can be modified, please steer me as to how it can be done. It is certainly nothing I have ever discovered could be done through the Print Manager. I didn't think that this was a problem with one of the ports on this unit as I didn't have this problem when I had the trusty DoveFax modem connected. However, the DoveFax had another very, very strange problem. The software wouldn't allow me to transmit faxes across the street or across town in most cases. I could receive from anybody anywhere, but transmitting locally was a big problem with the way the software was written for the DoveFax. Unfortunately, they didn't stay around long enough to correct this problem. I had two of them at different times and seem to recall having this experience with the first one too back in 1991. (I want to point out that Dove's lost was clearly not a NeXT market related failure.) Mentioning that this sounds to you like a hardware flow control problem, started me to thinking about how I could isolate whether the cable may be part of the problem that produces the scrunched problem from the Toshiba faxback system. Since I currently only have one to work with, I thought to installed and test Olaf Mueller's OlafAM.1.0.4 - the programmable voice/fax/data machine with using the ZyXEL U-1496E modem which the software supports. Once I configured correctly for the ZyXEL - after making sure the 19200 fax mode option was not selected, reading the directions is always helpful - I was able to receive the faxes. Once again, the Toshiba "Index of Available Documents" came out the same with the first page okay and the subsequent pages scrunched. I can't say at what rate this transmission was done, because this information is not provided by the program that I could see and not made available in the Console window. The ZyXEL U-1496E does not have an digital LED - just flashing lights. Therefore, and unless my machine does choose the correct default device setting, the cable looks like the best candidate for this scrunched pages oddity. As far as the SupraSonic modem's data side is concerned, I haven't had any troubles at all connecting to five different service providers in several different cities. Currently, it connects solidly at 28.8 for both send and receive but does fluctuate back and forth to 31.2 kbps between the two (send & receive), but never simultaneous so far. I haven't tried using any of the voice features which this modem is suppose to support. Thank You Very Much! P.S. I did receive a response from another individual who recently purchased a SupraSonic 33.6V+ modem and is experiencing the same problem. At this point I don't know, however, if he did not purchase his cable from NXFax and experiences the same problem with the Toshiba index, this probably reduces the likelihood that this is the source of the scrunched problem. The problems with receiving that this configuration has seems likely due to a mismatch as noted earlier. He has offered to send me the most recent NXFax Help addendum. I will see if this provides any clues which would help to get this configuration combination to receive faxes flawlessly.
From: doyle@aps.org (Mark Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unable to load extended character set Date: 14 Aug 1997 01:54:35 GMT Organization: American Physical Society Message-ID: <5stogr$muu@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> References: <5st0dh$kak@lendl.cc.emory.edu> louis@objects.cc.emory.edu (Louis Leon) wrote: >Has anyone seen this message before and knows what it means: > >Unable to load extended character set(s); using builtin. > >I get it when logging onto a sybase via EOModeler I used to get this with OmniWeb. It is easily fixed by getting the latest FoundationKit library from NeXTanswers at http://www.next.com/. Cheers, Mark
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From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: new 'passwd' program Date: 14 Aug 1997 04:23:29 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5su181$dbp$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In case anyone has a burning desire to replace the regular passwd program on their NeXT and is good at porting software http://science.nas.nasa.gov/Software/Archives/ has a new passwd program on it. TjL
From: "Derek Markerink" <dmarkerink@pi.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Javabrowser for NeXT 68k? Date: 9 Aug 1997 12:01:49 GMT Organization: Ambassador Enterprises Message-ID: <01bca4bb$cffdfd20$0aac2ac0@win95> Can anyone please tell me where i can obtain a java-capable webbrowser for my NeXT 68040 station?
From: chrish@cc.usu.edu (PUNCHOUT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Openstep 4.x or NS 3.3 on Black Hardware Message-ID: <qR0k8bZ8wYZb@cc.usu.edu> Date: 13 Aug 97 23:42:06 MDT Organization: Utah State University I've read some of the threads on this and some faqs, but honestly folks, is OpenStep 4.x really that painful on black hardware? I'm running 3.3 right now, and have not seen 4.x in action, but I"m curious as to what sort of performance loss I will experience if I were to run 4.x on a turbo color 040. Thanks, -- Christian Shank Nothing special... No titles or honoraria CHRISH@CC.USU.EDU Quote? I have no stinking quote!
From: arti@address.in.signature (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax 1.04 Problem? Date: 14 Aug 1997 09:10:22 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5sui1u$qrv@mochi.lava.net> References: <5sfvah$hnj@news.asu.edu> <5spjbc$p52@news.asu.edu> <5ssujo$b3h@news.asu.edu> Is anyone using NXFax 1.04 with OS 4.2? I have heard one report that some change in 4.2 makes NXFax fail to function. Before upgrading from 4.1, I'd like to know. Thanks. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti at lava dot net Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
From: koskya@umd.umich.edu (Alec Kosky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs OS 4 Date: 9 Aug 1997 21:28:49 GMT Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <5sineh$1cf$1@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <Pine.HPP.3.95.970804145038.7258B-100000@apollo1.Stanford.EDU> <Pine.NXT.3.96.970804202518.26160G-100000@luomat.peak.org> Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@peak.org) wrote: : On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Robert Gibson Jacobs wrote: : > What are the reasons I should/shouldn't go to OpenStep? : If this is black hardware there might be some slowdown with OpenStep... : someone explained this once as being due to the fact that the NeXTStep : libraries and the OpenStep libraries have to be loaded into the memory. What kind of a slowdown are we talking? 5%? 25%? Also, what are the going rates for NS3.3+Devloper and OS4.2? : However: I have found that 3.3dev is much more useful for compiling : generic UNIX stuff than 4.x dev. Why? Different set of tools? Better compiler/support? --Alec Kosky-- recently purchased mono slab 25MHz - hard drive died that night (it was used). Now looking for a replacement os (had NS2.0 with developer, I believe - didn't have too much time to investigate).
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From: jay@apex.net (Jay Campbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail.app question Message-ID: <33f366ae.0@news.inil.com> Date: 14 Aug 97 20:12:30 GMT I'm like to be able to use procmail (or anything) to automatically deliver mail to different Mailboxes (same user) based on the content ot the message (sender, subject, etc). Can anyone give me some pointers on this? It'd save a ton of time over moving them individually. Thanks, jay -- ø
From: Eric Ulmer <ulmerer@ebs.ac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep 4.x or NS 3.3 on Black Hardware Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:01:17 -0500 Organization: Andersen Consulting/ServiceNet LLC. Message-ID: <33F3019D.391E@ebs.ac.com> References: <qR0k8bZ8wYZb@cc.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PUNCHOUT wrote: > > I've read some of the threads on this and some faqs, but honestly folks, > is OpenStep 4.x really that painful on black hardware? I'm running > 3.3 right now, and have not seen 4.x in action, but I"m curious as > to what sort of performance loss I will experience if I were to run > 4.x on a turbo color 040. > > Thanks, > ....... I also run a 040 turbo mono with 64MB of RAM. I'd be interested in feedback as well. -- Eric Ulmer, Network Consultant ServiceNet Technologies (BBN/Andersen Consulting) 612-317-7768 Desk ulmerer@ebs.ac.com
From: Steve Penton <stevep@rsinc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to get Openstep4.2 for Mach Academic? Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 14:44:43 -0600 Organization: Research Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <33F36E3B.21EB@rsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know how to OpenStep 4.2 for Mach (Acadamic) ? Is it still even available? Cheers, Steve Penton spenton@casa.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: X-windows terminal Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EEtsGq.9L3@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 00:10:02 GMT References: <33EF17E8.6B9E6613@4thdim.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <33EF17E8.6B9E6613@4thdim.com>, Jason Patrick <jason@4thdim.com> wrote: >Is it possible to run an X-terminal to access my NeXT cube, or is >Openstep not really running X-windows? > Can't be done; NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP doesn't use X. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: avib@xs2.xs4all.nl (avib) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Any next CD- Bburning software? Date: 14 Aug 1997 21:52:09 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <5svum9$3kd$2@news0.xs4all.nl> Hello all, I was wondering if there's any software out there for Nextstep that can burn CD-R's? any pointers much appreciated, avi
From: nospam@all.pls (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to get Openstep4.2 for Mach Academic? Date: 15 Aug 1997 01:31:45 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5t0bi1$act$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <33F36E3B.21EB@rsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stevep@rsinc.com In <33F36E3B.21EB@rsinc.com> Steve Penton wrote: > Does anyone know how to OpenStep 4.2 for Mach (Acadamic) ? > Is it still even available? call 1-800-try-next TjL
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app question Date: 15 Aug 1997 02:01:36 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5t0da0$act$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <33f366ae.0@news.inil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jay@apex.net In <33f366ae.0@news.inil.com> Jay Campbell wrote: > > I'm like to be able to use procmail (or anything) to automatically deliver > mail to different Mailboxes (same user) based on the content ot the message > (sender, subject, etc). Can anyone give me some pointers on this? It'd save > a ton of time over moving them individually. Checkout http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/procmail.html Once you have the variables setup, it is simple to do what you are looking for... :0wc * ^From:.*luomat@peak\.org | appnmail TjLBackup would send any message from me to the mailbox 'TjLBackup' and ALSO leave a copy to continue and if it did not match anything else, end up in /usr/spool/mail/yourusername :0wc * ^Subject:.*keyword | appnmail KeywordBackup Doing content-based sorting will suck a lot of CPU, and I'm not 100% sure how that would be done... check the 'man procmailex' page.... see also 'man procmail' and 'man procmailrc' And join the procmail mailing list, and they can help much more... (info on 'man procmail' and my web page above) TjL
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: new 'passwd' program Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 20:54:46 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <distler-1408972054460001@slip-115-36.ots.utexas.edu> References: <5su181$dbp$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <5su181$dbp$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > In case anyone has a burning desire to replace the regular passwd program on > their NeXT and is good at porting software > > http://science.nas.nasa.gov/Software/Archives/ > > has a new passwd program on it. > > TjL Does it work with NetInfo, or just the /etc/passwd file? The latter won't be satisfactory to your average NeXT person. JD -- PGP public key: http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/distler.asc
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: new 'passwd' program Date: 15 Aug 1997 03:06:47 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5t0h47$59e$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5su181$dbp$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <distler-1408972054460001@slip-115-36.ots.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu In <distler-1408972054460001@slip-115-36.ots.utexas.edu> Jacques Distler wrote: > Does it work with NetInfo, or just the /etc/passwd file? The latter won't > be satisfactory to your average NeXT person. Well, it won't even compile, so I think it is a moot point.... TjL
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Javabrowser for NeXT 68k? Date: 9 Aug 1997 16:06:43 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5si4ij$qrm$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <01bca4bb$cffdfd20$0aac2ac0@win95> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dmarkerink@pi.net In <01bca4bb$cffdfd20$0aac2ac0@win95> "Derek Markerink" wrote: > Can anyone please tell me where i can obtain a java-capable webbrowser for > my NeXT 68040 station? There is none. TjL -- Gates isn't dumb, he knows Apple's survival means he can keep the anti-monopoly folks at bay. Thinking he has any more interest in Apple than that is highly-optimistic.
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Matlab for NEXTSTEP (m68k)? Date: 15 Aug 1997 04:24:15 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5t0llf$1gf6@news.doit.wisc.edu> Can anyone tell me if/where there is a recent version of Matlab compiled for NeXT hardware. Thanks. - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone interested in microtek (ScanMaker) s/w for Next? Date: 15 Aug 1997 05:48:21 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <SHAFFER.97Aug15014821@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> Hello, I have sucessfully ported mtekscan to NextStep 3.3 using the scsi code from sane. There is no fancy user interface, completely driven from the command line, but it works. Only fairly minor modifications of the original source were needed. Anyway, this program supports the entire ScanMaker series except the V300 (maybe it could be fixed to support this scanner -- but the SCSI INQUIRE info returned from the V300 is less than helpful). My question: does anyone want this (besides me)? mtekscan is copyrighted but freely distributable and sane is GPL so I should be able to distribute my source code to anyone interested. Send me e-mail and if I get enough of them I'll post it to peak, otherwise I'll just send it to the interested parties. Be sure to let me know if you want binaries included and how to ship 'em (MIME, NeXTmail etc). Some useful links: <a href="http://fb4-1112.uni-muenster.de/ffwd/ffwd_mtekscan.html">mtekscan</a> <a href="http://www.azstarnet.com/~axplinux/sane/index.html">sane</a> David --- Dr. David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 dshaffer@wscunx1.wsc.edu NeXTMail/MIME welcome -- David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 shaffer@phyast.pitt.edu NeXTMail/MIME welcome
From: lozinski@nina.openstepnews.com (Christopher Lozinski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: OpenStep Newsletter Date: 15 Aug 1997 07:16:20 GMT Message-ID: <5t0vo4$16u$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> 1. OpenStep Newsletter is Back in Production 2. Rhapsody has Spreadsheet, Word Processor, Graphics Applications 3. Music Kit Lives 4. RTF to HTML Conversion. 5. Java on Rhapsody 6. Metrowerks Porting Latitude to Rhapsody 7. Java Bridge 8. Persistent Java 9. Apple Focused on OS not Development Tools 10 Microsoft Invests $150 Million in Apple 11. OPENSTEP JOB MARKET a) Introduction b)60 Hiring Managers c)Seattle Fast Growing Company d)Washington D.C. Shrink Wrap Vendor e)Become a Java developer f)San Francisco Bay Area NeXTStep g)San Francisco Bay Area: Learn NeXTStep h) New York: Know Perl, Learn WebObjects i)San Francisco WebObjects Storefront j)NeXTStep System Administrators k)Auspex System Administrator Needed l)San Francisco Bay Area NeXTStep System Administrator m)Texas n)San Francisco Bay Area o)SnowBoarders Needed p)Deep South q)Boston, Washington Consultants r)Midwest 12. Tom Love, the Businessman Behind Objective-C 13. Senior Project Managers Available 14. OpenStep Newsletter Changes Focus 15. Newton and Emate 16. Big Changes in Smalltalk Market 17. Welcome Vernetta 18. Be OS Ported to Intel 19 . Subscriptions Now Available 1. OpenStep Newsletter is Back in Production I have hired a second person to help out with the recruiting function, allowing me to focus on publishing the newsletter. That should mean more regular newsletters, with deeper coverage. At the same time this newsletter needs to distinguish itself from other web publications. Every newspaper is now covering the board room antics at Apple, so to provide unique value to my readership, this newsletter will focus on the object technology at Apple, namely OpenStep, WebObjects, Rhapsody, EOF, and Java. Other Apple news will be covered only in passing. 2. Rhapsody has Spreadsheet, Word Processor, Graphics Applications Three different companies have each announced one of the key office productivity applications for Rhapsody. P&L has ported the Mesa Spreadsheet <http://www.plsys.co.uk/plsys/>; Anderson Financial has ported the Write Up wordprocessor<WriteUp@afs.com> and the PasteUp <PasteUp@afs.com> layout manager; Stone Design has ported the Create the "total design studio with web page capabilities" <www.stone.com>; Caffeine Software has ported the Image Processing Tiffany application; Metrowerks is porting over their lattitude library; And some of the mainframe connectivity applications are ported over. These and other applications were ported to the newest release of Rhapsody at the developers kitchen just before the Boston MacWorld Trade Show. As a company that runs happily on NeXTStep 3.2, I have to say that there is a lot of software <ftp://ftp.next.peak.org> that runs on the Mach Operating System, most of which simply cannot be ported to Rhapsody until the Rhapsody developer release becomes widely available. 3. Music Kit Lives Many years ago, NeXT dropped the MusicKit due to lack of commercial demand. NeXT then licensed it to Stanford. More recently Yamaha and Stanford licensed patents and software to a joint venture called Sondius. <www.Sondius-XG.com> The first licensee for Sondius is a company called Staccato Systems. <www.staccatosys.com> The MusicKit offers a computational model of sound generation and allows the application developer to create a particular instrument as a specific instantiation of the generic physical models. Instruments could be traditional musical instruments, such as a piano, or a more abstract sound source such as a door that slams or any other video game sound. These instruments can then be driven by music notes which can be transmitted as midi. Midi represents sound as a series of notes, and allows for 128 (7 bits) instruments to play those notes. Midi only allows the definition of 128 musical instruments, so Sondius is attempting to define an extension to the Midi standard. Of course in the Stanford Newspaper article about the technology, no mention was made as to the source of the software, or that it was implemented in Objective-C. 4. RTF to HTML Conversion. If you have rtf or rtfd files that you want to convert to HTML try LatinByrd. <http://members.ping.at/stefan/> TIFF and EPS images in RTFD docs are automatically converted to GIF, JPEG, and PNG format. And unlike some of the other OpenStep HTML generation products, it works just fine on NeXTStep 3.3. LatinByrd works by reading the RTF file into an object from NEXTSTEP API's 'Text' class. LatinByrd then takes that Text object apart, gathering all the necessary layout info from it and saving out the HTML file. Since the Text class doesn't know of Microsoft style sheets LatinByrd does not parse that information correctly. 5. Java on Rhapsody Java will be the primary development environment on top of the Yellow Box. Existing developers who hear this worry that Objective-C will no longer be an option, but rest assured, that the wizards of the world will have access to incantations not available to the novices. 6. Metrowerks Porting Latitude to Rhapsody The Latitude library implements the Macintosh Applications Programming Interface (API) on Unix. It is now used by Macintosh developers to port applications to Sun's Solaris, and in the future will be used to port to Apple's Rhapsody. Metrowerks is porting the Latitude application to Mach on Intel as a stepping stone to Rhapsody on PowerPC. Metrowerks will then port their own development tools to Rhapsody. Already they have integrated the GNU compiler into their development environment. Metrowerks is also developing a C++ compiler for Rhapsody. Alas, Metrowerks is very much targeting the embedded systems market, rather than the corporate, object-oriented development market. Thus their tools emphasize code performance over flexibility and reusability. Don't expect nib files from Metrowerks initially. Their code saves time and space by writing subroutines that generate the desired User Interface. Sigh. 7. Java Bridge Apple is working on a Java bridge to allow Java client applications on other platforms to talk to Rhapsody servers using something like PDO. More details will follow next month. Meanwhile take a look at a technology for building Java clients to Web Objects <www.advis.com> Does anyone have a better solution for connecting Java Clients to Objective-C servers? 8. Persistent Java I know two companies that are selling persistent Java. O2 <www.o2tech.com> and Servio Logic <www.gemstone.com> Of course there are many more companies selling Java language servers connected to relational databases. Even the persistent Java vendors connect to relational databases, but why bother. With persistent Java you get database persistence, in a nice message-passing based environment. What else could you ask for? Let me know what your experiences have been. 9. Apple Focused on OS not Development Tools There is a huge change over at NeXT/Apple. They used to be a company targeted on corporate mission critical applications. Now they are a hardware vendor trying to ship an operating system. Even the sales of WebObjects at the $80-100 million level pale in comparison to the sales of hardware at the $8 billion level. 10. Microsoft Invests $150 Million in Apple In addition to investing in Apple, Microsoft also agreed to upgrade Microsoft Office on Macintosh for 5 years, in exchange for Apple agreeing to bundle Internet Explorer with the Macintosh Operating System. Effectively Microsoft and Apple are downplaying the competition between their operating systems, and Apple is joining the Microsoft camp in the browser wars. Note that Microsoft cannot afford to allow Macintosh to disappear, for then they would be highly subject to monopoly busting federal law suits. The stock market reacted favorably to this news, presumably because it stabilized the life of the Macintosh; but OpenStep developers fear that it will reduces the pressure on Apple to migrate to Rhapsody. Apple had been trying to move to Rhapsody ASAP as a competitive strategy against Microsoft. Now that they are on the same side there may be less urgency to migrate. OPENSTEP JOB MARKET 11 a)Introduction If you are interested in any of these positions, send email to lozinski@openstepnews.com. I not only place people, I also advise them on what type of company to select. I help individuals find environments that suit their personality type. Everyone ends up very happy with the placements that I make. 11 b)60 Hiring Managers My database now includes 63 OpenStep hiring managers whom I personally know. If you are looking for a particular type of job, one you don't see here, I would be happy to send your resume to the right hiring manager. I know more about these companies than the average individual knows, and am able to tell at which company a particular person would find a compatible work environment. Current openings include: 11 c)Seattle Fast Growing Company This company has passed through the start up phase, and is in the high growth phase. They have contracted with the OpenStep newsletter as a sole source of WebObjects developers, and are paying premium salaries and stock options for experienced OpenStep developers. I am proud to say that these positions are only available through the OpenStep newsletter. 11 d)Washington D.C. Shrink Wrap Vendor Washington finally has OpenStep jobs that are in the commercial product market. This company is successfully building a shrink-wrapped product on OpenStep. Pretty exciting stuff. They have seven major customers already and are on a roll. T hey have an interesting Human Resource Policy. They are looking for cooperative individuals. Several Empire builders were recently laid off, because they interferred with the matrix management (read networking) within the company. Furthermore they want people who love Mach but have come to terms with the market acceptance of NT until such time Rhapsody becomes an acceptable alternative. I personally know the hiring manager. He is great at managing projects, and developing and following a plan that meets the customers application requirements and scheduling requirements. 11 e)Become a Java developer If you are interested in Java, but want to work with a group that understands good Object Oriented Design, then let me submit you to this group. New York or Bay Area Location. I will be meeting with the hiring managers on Wednesday 11 f)San Francisco Bay Area NeXTStep If you love Objective-C, you will love this job. Develop on NeXTStep with no WebObjects in sight and NT nowhere around. 11 g)San Francisco Bay Area: Learn NeXTStep This company is willing to train computer scientists in NeXTStep. 11 h)New York: Know Perl, Learn WebObjects This company is willing to train a beginner NeXTStep developer who knows Perl well. It is a great way to get paid to learn NeXTStep and EOF, and WebObjects. They prefer people who prefer stock options. 11 i)San Francisco WebObjects Storefront This company is looking for developers who have experience building an Internet StoreFront in WebObjects. Work from your home city anywhere in the world. 11 j)NeXTStep System Administrators For a long time the market demand for NeXTStep system administrators has been dead. Now it is starting to come to life, as people are reinvesting in Mach, and planning on Rhapsody. I now have two clients looking for System Administrators, and I expect to get more soon. 11 k)Auspex System Administrator Needed It has been a long time since a client has asked me to find a NeXTStep system administrator. This is a scarce position. If you know auspex, you should jump on this opportunity immediately. 11 l)San Francisco Bay Area NeXTStep System Administrator There is a job for a nextstep system administrator in the San Francisco Bay Area. The company is really focussed on taking good care of its staff, and running the organzation as a network of individuals. For someone who knows NeXTStep 4.1 well and NeXTStep system administration, this is a great opportunity to learn more about networking. Let me know if you are interested. I believe that they will even take foreign candidates. 11 m)Texas Great Family oriented company. You get a lot of house for your money here. The company also has a great comp time policy. If you have to travel at all, all those extra hours are comp time, and when you get back you can take a day off work. Pretty cool benefit. This company has a serious need for 6 senior developers and are promising to fill these positions promptly. This is the company for developers who want to move to Texas. If you want to break into the Financial Applications market, then this is a great opportunity. If you know NeXTStep but need to learn EOF or WebObjects then this company may be willing to give you high value training. 11 n)San Francisco Bay Area The company has an overly large existing application that needs to be migrated to a more solid object architecture. You will be responsible for conceptualizing the desired architecture and evangelizing that approach to the rest of the organization. In the process, you will encounter other points of view. An ability to win over and co-exist with other perspectives is very important. Sensitivity to others' concerns is also very important. Located in the San Francisco Bay Area. 11 o)SnowBoarders Needed If you are into snowboarding, then join the company putting up the definitive Snowboarding Web Site. Fringe Benefits including paid weekends to evaluate the products being resold. These guys go steep both in Snowboarding and in business, so get ready for the ride of your life. San Francisco Bay Area location with offices planned in Colorado, Switzerland, 11 p)Deep South Quiet rural location is the headquarters for an Internet Systems Integrator who loves NeXTStep. The other person I placed there loves the job. The boss tries to insert OpenStep and WebObjects in his own billing system, and whereever his customers let him. 11q)Boston, Washington Consultants Are always needed. One of the projects is very well designed and exciting, one has no design and is in complete confusion. The last one is so large, that changes can only be made very slowly. Of course these are consulting positions. 11 r)Midwest Your boss will be one of the original NeXT Developers. This is a great place for a beginner to solidify his/her grasp of NeXTStep. It is also an interesting application. The company is building customer support software for an Internet service provider, so you also get trained in the intricacies of Internetworking. 12.Tom Love, the Businessman Behind Objective-C Tom Love founded Stepstone with Brad Cox. While Brad developed the original version of Objective-C, Tom made the sales to finance the development. Later as C++ rose to take market dominance over Objective-C, Tom voted in favor of offering both C++ and Objective-C services, was voted down, and left Stepstone. Without his drive and market savvy, Stepstone dwindled into insignificance. Tom went on to offer consulting services, wrote a book "Object Lessons", and helped create IBM's Object Technology Practice. In March of this year, I received a call from Tom asking me if I could find good Objective-C developers that he could teach Java syntax to in a week. This was a hot project, and so on a next-day service basis, I found him the people to develop and test his application. With my usual great intuition, the people I found for him fit the bill exactly. The senior developer of this financial analysis project had spent his whole life doing time-series data analysis; although the applications were in physics, these were skills easily transferred to Wall Street. The junior tester came from a school that aggressively emphasized testing. The pair of them cost the client significantly less than had been budgeted. On July 23rd Tom's application made the Wall Street Journal, front page of section C. In about two weeks, the application will go public and lose password protection. (See <www.riskview.com>). Impressively enough, the application went from design to delivery within 100 calendar days with just three developers. It is not a simple application. Good design, and great management will do it every time. Yes, I take credit for shaving a week off the cycle time with my superior quality recruiting services, but the real applause goes to the great NeXTStep developers who know how to design object applications, and in this case outranked the functional decomposition camp who had a different design approach. The key to good design is flexibility against the unexpected changes that lie ahead. In one instance the team needed to change the time-series analysis from daily to weekly. With a single subclassing, and 15 minutes of work, the change was made, and everything else worked. Tell your boss: OpenStep developers make the best Java developers. They are the only ones in the world with 5 years of Java design experience. 13. Senior Project Managers Available Do you need a Java application delivered in a hundred days? Is your software project over budget and behind schedule? Do you have a critical deadline to meet? If so, I know a number of people who can help you out. These are older, very experience project managers who understand Object Technology, Customer Requirements and Schedules and can integrate them together. These people are also very politically savvy. The basic offer is that you tell them what you need, and they tell you what it takes to accomplish the objectives and the schedule. You give them full authority over all relevant issues, and they deliver what you need. They all have extensive track records that show their ability to accomplish what you need. 14.OpenStep Newsletter Changes Focus The Tom Love project and the huge growth in the WebObjects market have changed the business focus of the OpenStep newsletter. We started out placing average OpenStep developers into corporate positions. We are still doing that, but it is clear that our great advantage is in knowing the best OpenStep developers. My database is filled with exceptionally experienced (4 years or more) OpenStep developers, senior project managers who have proven their value and productivity. If you would like to hire one of these talented people, please let me know. 15.Newton and Emate The Apple Newton and the Emate run the same operating system. It is a modern operating system with a self-like language which runs in minimal memory space. Apple is selling out as quickly as it can manufacture them. Mostly they are selling large shipments to vertical market segments. It would make a great basis for a low-cost network computer. Larry Ellison are you listening? 16.Big Changes in Smalltalk Market Before the arrival of the Web, ParcPlace's Smalltalk provided a very attractive cross-platform solution for corporate applications. Since then, the Web has made Smalltalk less interesting. HTML runs everywhere for free. ParcPlace Smalltalk runs almost everywhere, but costs a lot. In the mean time, ParcPlace had purchased their arch competitor Digitalk and attempted but failed to merge the two products. Eventually they put the Digitalk product on the back burner, and most of the customers fled to IBM Smalltalk. The net result is that ParcPlace was recently trading at a dollar a share, probably close to their asset value. 17.Welcome Vernetta Vernetta Wilson is now working with me. She will become the market maker for developers. That will allow her to devote full-time to knowing the different candidates and hiring managers, and placing the right person in the right job. And becoming a two-person company will allow me to focus on the web site, the databases, and publishing the newsletter. 18.Be OS Ported to Intel Be, Inc. has ported the Be operating system to Intel hardware and showed the product at MacWorld Expo in Boston on August 4th. 19.Subscriptions Now Available This newsletter is now available as ascii email, NeXTMAil, and Mime mail. Send your subscription and cancellation requests to the email address corresponding to the version that you want or do not want: Ascii version newsletter-request@lists.best.com NeXTMAIL version nextletter-request@lists.best.com MIME version newsletter-mime- request@lists.best.com The body of the message should contain the keyword 'subsingle' alone or, if you want to subscribe a third-party address, the subsingle keyword may be followed by an email address. subsingle or subsingle email-address You will then get an authentication message. Reply to it appropriately and you will then be subscribed. (Note: Do not use the 'subscribe' keyword, or you will get the digest version of the newsletter once a year). You can also subscribe multiple people in a single email message, one per line. Since this newsletter targets OpenStep Developers, I prefer if you subscribe to the NeXTMAIL version. 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From: Sanjeev Agarwal <sanjeev@umr.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: N3DCamera.... Date: 15 Aug 1997 07:12:28 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <5t0vgs$m45$3@news.cc.umr.edu> Hi, I am having problem to understand the N3DCamera class. Is the world coordinate assumed to be left handed too (like the camera coordinates). I have a model in the right handed coordinate system. What will be the best approach to view such a CAD model using N3DCamera. Thank you very much for your help ... Sanjeev
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 03:03:01 -0600 From: Rene Berber <rberber@spin.com.mx> Subject: Re: EOF/Database configurations ... Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <871631674.16241@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service David E Fleskes wrote: > > Given that there are a lot of client/server configurations in an > environment in which OS 4.x can connect to some database server via > EOF, what are the optimal ones in terms of hardware/software cost? > The answer to this depends on several factors. The most important is probably the throughput needed for the database (transactions per minute) which is a function of the number of (simultaneous) users. Also important is whether you are going to develop and deploy on the same DBMS, which is the usual situation; but can be different if your application(s) don't need specific DB functionality (i.e. if EOF will do all the work because you don't need stored procedures, triggers, constraints, etc.) > Some two system configurations: > OS4.x/Intel (or OS4.x Developer on WinNT4.0/Intel) to > MiniSQL/Linux/Intel > OS4.x/Intel (or OS4.x Developer on WinNT4.0/Intel) to > PostgesSQL/Linux/Intel > OS4.x/Intel (or OS4.x Developer on WinNT4.0/Intel) to > Sybase/Solaris/Sparc > > And some single system configs: > OS4.x/Intel with PostgresSQL (yet TBP) > OS4.x Developer/Solaris/Sparc with Sybase > > Are there other configurations? > Yes, you can have: OS4.x/Mach running OpenBase (commercial) or Postgres95 (free) OS4.x/WinNT running MS-Access, or any ODBC compliant DBMS Also you can have Sybase or Informix running on a PC with SCO UNIX, which is a lot cheaper that a Sun. > Some (reaching) questions: > Is/when a database server supported on WinNT4.0/Intel? As mentioned before MS Access has been used (with the Sybase adaptor if I recall correctly some OmniGroup mailing list info.) The ODBC adaptor was in beta testing at NeXT, I don't know when Apple plans to distribute it. > Is/when a database server supported on NS4.x/Intel? OpenBase is a product that has been in the market several years, first as QuickBase. Take a look at http://www.openbase.com > Is/when Solaris supported on Intel? There has been a Solaris/Intel version for a year or more, I've never seen it myself nor know what DBMS runs on it. Regards, --- _Rene Berber_ _r.berber@computer.org_ (MIME/NeXTMail welcomed) -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: mholst@xs4all.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: >> SHAREWARE - GET IT NOW << Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 08:04:37 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <33f38823.17455801@news.xs4all.nl> New programs available now! Download Bay has been renewed! Get it While it's hot! Please been so kind as to visit the the sponsers, specially if you dont find what your looking for! If 10% of you would visit ONE sponsor (which won't happen), half of my internet account would be paid! It doesn't cost you anything! In fact you'll find some great stuff there, honest! Download Bay http://come.to/shareware
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Sender: mholst@xs4all.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <33f38823.17455801@news.xs4all.nl> Control: cancel <33f38823.17455801@news.xs4all.nl> Date: 15 Aug 1997 08:12:33 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.33f38823.17455801@news.xs4all.nl> Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Drawing program? Date: 15 Aug 1997 14:30:26 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <5t1p62$31s$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Could anyone suggest a (free) drawing program, please? I'm used to xfig so would be happy with anything that is similarly self-explanatory! Many thanks...Thomas. -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 for zero entropy.
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drawing program? Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:03:39 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EEyn64.14C@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <5t1p62$31s$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In article <5t1p62$31s$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> writes: > > Could anyone suggest a (free) drawing program, please? > I'm used to xfig so would be happy with anything that is > similarly self-explanatory! > Draw is a simple start (in /NextDeveloper/Demos). Lighthouse recently released license codes for Diagram - not exactly a drawing program, but if it fits with what you want to do it's excellent. $an
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drawing program? Date: 15 Aug 1997 16:33:30 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <5t20cq$kc0$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <5t1p62$31s$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk In <5t1p62$31s$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Thomas Harte wrote: > > Could anyone suggest a (free) drawing program, please? > I'm used to xfig so would be happy with anything that is > similarly self-explanatory! Picked up Diagram. Excellent stuff. Thanks to all who commented. -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 for zero entropy.
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Gnuplot: heavier lines, points... Date: 15 Aug 1997 18:25:21 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <5t26uh$nru$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How do I make lines, points &c. heavier in Gnuplot? The output is fine to view in colour on the screen, but when I try to print it as part of a document the lines are really thin. Worse still, some scatter plots barely show some of the data points such as diamonds. Any remedies? -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 for zero entropy.
From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.eunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X-windows terminal Date: 15 Aug 1997 20:02:16 GMT Organization: Far Out Labs, Inc. Message-ID: <5t2ck8$avc@ragnarok.en.eunet.de> References: <33EF17E8.6B9E6613@4thdim.com> <EEtsGq.9L3@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Evans wrote: > Jason Patrick <jason@4thdim.com> wrote: > >Is it possible to run an X-terminal to access my NeXT cube, or is > >Openstep not really running X-windows? > > Can't be done; NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP doesn't use X. It is worth noting that the desired functionality is available with OPENSTEP/Windows. Works mighty fine, for both 3.3 and 4.x apps. Holger -- holger"at"ragnarok.en.eunet.de (NeXTMail, MIME) 'Where I come from it's important to develop stuff that doesn't suck.' -- David Young <dwy"at"ace.net>
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <8f7cd$f62b.348@NEWS> Control: cancel <8f7cd$f62b.348@NEWS> Date: 15 Aug 1997 19:56:19 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.8f7cd$f62b.348@NEWS> Sender: Infodesk Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger) Subject: Re: How to get Openstep4.2 for Mach Academic? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <EEz1Gw.MGA@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> Sender: news@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: stevep@rsinc.com Organization: none References: <33F36E3B.21EB@rsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 20:12:30 GMT In <33F36E3B.21EB@rsinc.com> Steve Penton wrote: > Does anyone know how to OpenStep 4.2 for Mach (Acadamic) ? > Is it still even available? I've bought it from an ISV three weeks ago. Greetings Olaf -- Olaf Foellinger homepage: http://www1.stuttgart.netsurf.de/~ergo/ NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
From: paul@softland.demon.co.uk (Paul Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Quake on OpenStep? Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:10:17 GMT Message-ID: <33f6d36f.8381715@news.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is Quake available for OpenStep for Intel/Solaris? Also is the version of Doom for NextStep on the Id website for Intel? Ta.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5t2ve7$lso$7486@readme.ican.net> Control: cancel <5t2ve7$lso$7486@readme.ican.net> Date: 16 Aug 1997 01:27:21 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5t2ve7$lso$7486@readme.ican.net> Sender: Vedant<sales@koolatron.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quake on OpenStep? Date: 16 Aug 1997 00:29:05 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5t2s8h$is$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <33f6d36f.8381715@news.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: paul@softland.demon.co.uk,webmaster@idsoftware.com [ IDsoftware Webmaster: a question for you and a broken link report ] In <33f6d36f.8381715@news.demon.co.uk> Paul Taylor wrote: > Is Quake available for OpenStep for Intel/Solaris? Don't think so... I'd like to be wrong though.. > Also is the version of Doom for NextStep on the Id website for Intel? Ta. the webpage link seems to be broken. The page: http://www.idsoftware.com/archives/doomarc.html Dead link: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom/next/NeXTdoom1_2.tar.gz Should be: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom/nextstep/NeXTdoom1_2.tar.gz And that file is for NeXT and Intel computers. FYI DoomII is available at ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/DoomII/DoomII.app-BWGY.tar.gz Note: IDSoftware has one of the fastest ftp sites I've seen on the net... TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, from an article posted at http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
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Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970816.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970809.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970802.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 Aug 1997 01:00:00 +0100 Organization: Private System, London SW19, UK Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Jul-25 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-Aug-12 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> and also at <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quake on OpenStep? Date: 16 Aug 1997 03:09:47 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5t35lr$7kv$1@news.tamu.edu> References: <33f6d36f.8381715@news.demon.co.uk> <5t2s8h$is$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Aug 1997 03:09:47 GMT Timothy J. Luoma <nospam+next@luomat.peak.org> wrote: >FYI DoomII is available at > > ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/DoomII/DoomII.app-BWGY.tar.gz I just tried this out and the app crashes on startup leaving these messages on the console: Running with fixed scheduling policy for extra speed. framebuffer encoding: -RRRRRGGGGGBBBBB bitsPerSample: 5 bitsPerPixel: 16 Game mode indeterminate. What's the story? -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: nospam@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quake on OpenStep? Date: 16 Aug 1997 04:14:17 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5t39ep$is$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <33f6d36f.8381715@news.demon.co.uk> <5t2s8h$is$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5t35lr$7kv$1@news.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu In <5t35lr$7kv$1@news.tamu.edu> Colin Allen wrote: > I just tried this out and the app crashes on startup leaving these > messages on the console: > > Running with fixed scheduling policy for extra speed. > framebuffer encoding: -RRRRRGGGGGBBBBB > bitsPerSample: 5 bitsPerPixel: 16 > Game mode indeterminate. > > What's the story? No idea... it did the same to me TjL, who's never been able to figure Doom out to begin with... -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: ryan@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quake on OpenStep? Date: 16 Aug 1997 04:20:30 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5t39qe$28t$2@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <33f6d36f.8381715@news.demon.co.uk> <5t2s8h$is$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5t35lr$7kv$1@news.tamu.edu> colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) wrote: >Timothy J. Luoma <nospam+next@luomat.peak.org> wrote: >>FYI DoomII is available at >> >> ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/DoomII/DoomII.app-BWGY.tar.gz > >I just tried this out and the app crashes on startup leaving these >messages on the console: > > Running with fixed scheduling policy for extra speed. > framebuffer encoding: -RRRRRGGGGGBBBBB > bitsPerSample: 5 bitsPerPixel: 16 > Game mode indeterminate. >What's the story? Go to http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/DoomII/ and make sure that you have everything in place that Omni lists there. You need to have created a link(/LocalLibrary/Doom/doom1.wad I believe) to the wad file. Also you need to have the Interceptor library. This URL outlines all of that. Hope this helps. ryan
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WetPaint and making TIFF transparent? Date: 16 Aug 1997 05:22:09 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5t3de1$is$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone has said that WetPaint can make part of a TIFF file transparent. Has anyone done this? I've got the app but can't seem to make it change part of a .dir.tiff to transparent. Thanks -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: nospam@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quake on OpenStep? Date: 16 Aug 1997 06:35:51 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5t3ho7$ggt$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <33f6d36f.8381715@news.demon.co.uk> <5t2s8h$is$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5t35lr$7kv$1@news.tamu.edu> <5t39qe$28t$2@gaea.omnigroup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ryan@omnigroup.com Well, now I get a longer message (below) and still can't seem to get it to run. I get a message DoomII Error R_TextureNumForName: SKY3 not found and then it crashes. I also get some sort of panel in preferences that looks entirely un-finished. ah well... Running with fixed scheduling policy for extra speed. framebuffer encoding: --------RRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGBBBBBBBB bitsPerSample: 8 bitsPerPixel: 32 DOOM System Startup v1.8 V_Init: allocate screens. M_LoadDefaults: Load system defaults. Z_Init: Init zone memory allocation daemon. W_Init: Init WADfiles. adding doom1.wad shareware version. M_Init: Init miscellaneous info. R_Init: Init DOOM refresh daemon - [ ]................... P_Init: Init Playloop state. I_Init: Setting up machine state. D_CheckNetGame: Checking network game status. startskill 2 deathmatch: 0 startmap: 1 startepisode: 1 player 1 of 1 (1 nodes) S_Init: Setting up sound. Swapping sound samples. Continuous sampling rates from 5000.000000 to 45000.000000 Supported encodings: 601 600 Stream encoding: SND_FORMAT_LINEAR_16 Device sampling rate = 22050.000000 Using sampling rate of = 22050.000000 shortZero = 0 buffer = 0x160004, bufferBytes = 2048 HU_Init: Setting up heads up display. ST_Init: Init status bar.
From: Rene Berber <_r.berber@computer.org_> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unable to load extended character set Date: 15 Aug 1997 07:24:00 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <5t106g$ctk$1@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> References: <5st0dh$kak@lendl.cc.emory.edu> <5stogr$muu@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: doyle@aps.org In <_5stogr$muu@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov_> Mark Doyle wrote: > > I used to get this with OmniWeb. It is easily fixed by getting the latest > FoundationKit library from NeXTanswers at http://www.next.com/. > Actualy is the FoundationUserPatch.pkg what you have to install. http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2117.htmld/2117.html Hope this helps.
From: jreiss@discus.ise.vt.edu (Joe Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint and making TIFF transparent? Date: 16 Aug 1997 12:49:06 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA Message-ID: <5t47k2$1qe$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5t3de1$is$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote... > >Someone has said that WetPaint can make part of a TIFF file transparent. >Has anyone done this? Yes. It's fairly painless. First, you pick a transparent color in the color picker and drop it in the tool panel color well. Then, set the tool panel drawing operation to "Copy". (Otherwise, if the mode is "Sover", the transparent color is just drawing on top of what's already there instead of replacing it). Then scribble, fill, or do whatever to the region you want to be clear. You can then press and hold the Esc key, I believe, to see if it worked. If it did, you should see a granite background scrolling behind the transparent parts of your image. Hope that helps, Joe -- | NeXTMail OK! | Politicians in government should be changed regularly, | | ________ | like diapers, for the same reason. | | | |__) | ======================================================== | | (_|OE| \EISS | - Richard Davies, in rec.humor.funny |
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quake on OpenStep? Date: 16 Aug 1997 15:04:12 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5t4fhc$9cq$1@news.tamu.edu> References: <33f6d36f.8381715@news.demon.co.uk> <5t35lr$7kv$1@news.tamu.edu> <5t39qe$28t$2@gaea.omnigroup.com> <5t3ho7$ggt$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Aug 1997 15:04:12 GMT Timothy J. Luoma <nospam@luomat.peak.org> wrote: >Well, now I get a longer message (below) and still can't seem to get it to >run. > >I get a message > >DoomII Error >R_TextureNumForName: SKY3 not found Ditto here--this happens when I try to start a new game. The Demo seems to run along ok -- is doing so as I type. -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quake on OpenStep? Date: 16 Aug 1997 15:08:17 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5t4fp1$9n6$1@news.tamu.edu> References: <33f6d36f.8381715@news.demon.co.uk> <5t35lr$7kv$1@news.tamu.edu> <5t39qe$28t$2@gaea.omnigroup.com> <5t3ho7$ggt$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Aug 1997 15:08:17 GMT One more piece of data---If I just wait for the initial demo to run out, then I can start a new game from the display window. The menu "new game" is what causes the crash. -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: rkm@bmrc.mc.duke.edu (Ken McKee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X-windows terminal Date: 16 Aug 1997 16:39:53 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <5t4l4p$gmi$1@news.duke.edu> References: <33EF17E8.6B9E6613@4thdim.com> <EEtsGq.9L3@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5t2ck8$avc@ragnarok.en.eunet.de> In-Reply-To: <5t2ck8$avc@ragnarok.en.eunet.de> On 08/15/97, Holger Hoffstaette wrote: > David Evans wrote: >> Jason Patrick <jason@4thdim.com> wrote: >> >Is it possible to run an X-terminal to access my NeXT cube, or is >> >Openstep not really running X-windows? >> >> Can't be done; NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP doesn't use X. > >It is worth noting that the desired functionality is >available with OPENSTEP/Windows. Works mighty fine, for both >3.3 and 4.x apps. > >Holger I have not been able to do this. Can someone give specific steps to make this work? How do I make OPENSTEP/Windows a public window server? Ken
From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Matlab for NEXTSTEP (m68k)? Date: 16 Aug 1997 16:43:59 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <5t4lcf$6a0$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <5t0llf$1gf6@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bestor@cs.wisc.edu In <5t0llf$1gf6@news.doit.wisc.edu> bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > Can anyone tell me if/where there is a recent version of Matlab compiled for > NeXT hardware. Thanks. No, but Rex Dieter has ported Octave, the public domain clone of Matlab. Try it and see if it doesn't do what you want. You can find it at the usual NeXT sites. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Georges Tarbouriech" <aeroport.biarritz@hol.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to use Tandberg SCSI tape with Black 3.2 ? Date: 6 Aug 1997 17:31:44 GMT Message-ID: <01bca28d$d8dafd10$07ac2ac0@pcdev> References: <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com> Rebecca <beccaray@geocities.com> a écrit dans l'article <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com>... > Hi all, > > I have a Tandberg 250 meg SCSI tape drive that is being unusable with my > turbo color station. Any suggestions on how to get it to work. I know > there is a way becasue I've used it before, but the script that set it > up got eaten in the Hard Drive crash. Any help on this would be greatly > appreciated. > > Peace, > > James > Hi James, I may have a part of the answer; I use a Tandberg Panther 5000 and I spent some time to make it work on a Next station. It seems to be a problem of size of blocks. So, first try a cpio or find -cpio command; the answer usually is : "can't read input". Then, type a cpio -itv </dev/your dev; same answer as before . Rewind the tape (let's say you're using nrst0, for instance) typing : "mt -f /dev/your dev rewind". Last, change the blocksize : stblocksize -v /dev/your dev; the answer is :blocksize has been set to 0 . At that time, you can retype the first command, either cpio or find; it should work ! At least I hope. Probably, there are others and better solutions, but this is the only one I found. Usually, your streamer works fine as long as you don't stop the computer; of course after a new start, you'll have to do the same again ! Good luck Georges Tarbouriech
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <446871185624@digifix.com> Date: 17 Aug 1997 03:53:43 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <13779871790424@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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From: DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Sun Openstep missing/gone? Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:40:07 -0600 Organization: RR Message-ID: <33F09FF7.75C9@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> References: <5sq57d$rbu@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu wrote: > > I notice that Sun's web site no longer has any links for Openstep or its > installation instructions. For example, these URLs are no longer valid: > > http://www.sun.com/solaris/products/openstep/sol-openstep-install > http://www.sun.com/solaris/products/openstep/sol-openstep-rn.html > http://www.sun.com/solaris/products/openstep/download/mailer.cgi > > Openstep also does not appear in Sun's Solaris Products anywhere, though > their search engine will pull up a few old white papers/announcements. > > Has Sun really pulled the plug on it? If not where can I find it? > > - Gareth Yes, Sun pulled the plug on it and Sun has lost me as a customer as a result. Plus their F90 compiler does not work very well.
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to view and convert gifs to tiffs Date: 17 Aug 1997 00:26:35 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5t693b$jv6@slip.net> I recently inquired on this newsgroup about how to convert tiff images into gifs. I installed netpbm and both solutions (posted here) worked great. Could some one be so kind as to tell us : 1. Is there an app well suited to viewing gifs for NeXTStep? 2. Is there a way to convert a gif to a tiff from the command line using the netpbm library? Thanks, Emmett
From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.eunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X-windows terminal Date: 16 Aug 1997 22:52:50 GMT Organization: Far Out Labs, Inc. Message-ID: <5t5b02$ol@ragnarok.en.eunet.de> References: <33EF17E8.6B9E6613@4thdim.com> <EEtsGq.9L3@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5t2ck8$avc@ragnarok.en.eunet.de> <5t4l4p$gmi$1@news.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ken McKee wrote: > I have not been able to do this. Can someone give specific > steps to make this work? How do I make OPENSTEP/Windows a > public window server? I'm not sure you can set OS/Win to have a public window server. Last time I did this, I just telnet'ed into the Mach box and ran the app with /path/appname.app/appname -NX/NSHost <windowsbox>. That should be all - not very user-friendly, but maybe we'll get OpenSesame for Windows one day. :-) Holger -- holger"at"ragnarok.en.eunet.de (NeXTMail, MIME) 'Where I come from it's important to develop stuff that doesn't suck.' -- David Young <dwy"at"ace.net>
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Debugger App? Date: 17 Aug 1997 10:04:45 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <5t6ibt$4el$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have been left alone running NEXTSTEP 3.3 on Intel PPro :( No one to ask questions from, so please excuse the basisc level of this enquiry. I want to start programming in C/C++ and I am wondering if there is a graphical debugger available (perhaps there's an IDE?) as standard with the NEXTSTEP release. All I could find was gdb. I'm used to using the debugger that comes with SPARCWorks. Thanks. -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 for zero entropy.
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quake on OpenStep? Date: 16 Aug 1997 02:20:46 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5t32pu$1j1g@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <33f6d36f.8381715@news.demon.co.uk> paul@softland.demon.co.uk (Paul Taylor) wrote: >Is Quake available for OpenStep for Intel/Solaris? No/Never, in that order (Sun has dropped OpenStep). >Also is the version >of Doom for NextStep on the Id website for Intel? Yes. DoomII (m68k, Intel, HP, Sparc) is available from http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/DoomII/ --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Backup utility Date: 13 Aug 1997 00:07:45 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5sqtsi$ofi$1@dropit.pgh.net> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970812111217.330A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> <MnwA5HO00iUy06FDw0@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 12-Aug-97 Backup utility > by "Robert G. Jacobs"@rjaco > > Are there any nice backup utilities around that I can run as a cron job? > > Both gnutar and dump are functional, albeit spartan. They are also free > and come with the system. > > However, if you're willing to spend a few bucks and you want to get one > of the best backup utilities ever made, check out SafetyNet. It's more > than nice. I can second that. The only thing it seems to lack is a search function. I have been using it for a couple of years and been completely happy with it. In fact, I wish I could find something like it for NT 4.o WS. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Backup utility Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:13:39 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970812111217.330A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Reply-To: " Are there any nice backup utilities around that I can run as a cron job? Thanks. Rob
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to view and convert gifs to tiffs Date: 17 Aug 1997 16:04:20 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5t77e4$k2b$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5t693b$jv6@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5t693b$jv6@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > Could some one be so kind as to tell us : > > 1. Is there an app well suited to viewing gifs > for NeXTStep? ImageViewer, FastView, and ToyViewer (my current fav) will all do the job, I believe TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: katz@cs.millersv.edu (Beth Katz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to get Openstep4.2 for Mach Academic? Date: 17 Aug 1997 18:17:53 GMT Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania Message-ID: <5t7f8h$3v7$1@jake.esu.edu> References: <33F36E3B.21EB@rsinc.com> Steve Penton (stevep@rsinc.com) wrote: > Does anyone know how to OpenStep 4.2 for Mach (Acadamic) ? > Is it still even available? > Cheers, > Steve Penton > spenton@casa.colorado.edu Yes, it is still available. Before Apple reorganized the web site, it was somewhat easy to find out how to order. But now that NeXT is Apple Enterprise, the info isn't as readily found. But I asked ... Marc J. Driftmeyer, EIT Apple Enterprise Support told me by private email that you can try to order through NASCORP and your university bookstore or contact Apple Order Management: Karen Scott 512.919.6318 scott2@apple.com Anders Monsen 512.919.6317 amonsen@apple.com Dedicated Fax # in Austin: 512.919.2054 We contacted Karen Scott and she was very friendly and helpful. We faxed copies of academic IDs and credit card info and received our OpenStep 4.2 Mach Academic (including developers) in a few days (less than a week). It was $299 plus < $10 shipping plus local (PA, for me) tax. I was very pleased with the service. We're running on a 68040 25MHz mono slab with 32MB RAM and a 33MHz (?) 486 with 32MB (?) and color. Guess which machine I usually use? Yes, we bought two copies. I would say that the NEXTSTEP apps run pretty much as well as they did before. OpenStep apps seem to be considerably slower especially in bringing up panels for the first time and in launching. I don't do a lot of development, so I can't comment on that speed. Most of my work is on the mono slab. Beth Katz katz@cs.millersv.edu CS Dept. Millersville University
From: nisloohcs@llafrrr.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is Sunday OK? Date: 17 Aug 1997 19:01:16 GMT Organization: Acme Widgets (North Coast) Message-ID: <5t7hps$t8s5002@ren.usr.com> Phenomenal CD-Rom Reveals The "Million Dollar" Secrets of 50+ of The World's Most Successful Business Men & Women! http://bizwiz.by.net/sx020001.htm
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5t7hps$t8s5002@ren.usr.com> Control: cancel <5t7hps$t8s5002@ren.usr.com> Date: 17 Aug 1997 19:16:45 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5t7hps$t8s5002@ren.usr.com> Sender: nisloohcs@llafrrr.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JetPilot with HP DeskJet 820 Cse ? Date: 17 Aug 1997 21:51:25 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5t8kcd$878@slip.net> References: <5t5ure$5st@slip.net> Hi, I wrote : > >I previewed the documentation to JetPilot >and didn't see the HP DeskJet 820 Cse >mentioned. After installing JetPilot I found this printer in the list of available printers and was able to set it up from PrintManager.app. However, nothing prints out. I'm using black hardware. For the cable to the printer I'm using NeXT modem cable which is connected communication to a HP printer cable with a NULL MODEM DB25F/F connector. Could this be the source of the problem? Any suggestions? Thanks, Emmett
From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sun Openstep missing/gone? Date: 12 Aug 1997 17:06:53 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5sq57d$rbu@news.doit.wisc.edu> I notice that Sun's web site no longer has any links for Openstep or its installation instructions. For example, these URLs are no longer valid: http://www.sun.com/solaris/products/openstep/sol-openstep-install http://www.sun.com/solaris/products/openstep/sol-openstep-rn.html http://www.sun.com/solaris/products/openstep/download/mailer.cgi Openstep also does not appear in Sun's Solaris Products anywhere, though their search engine will pull up a few old white papers/announcements. Has Sun really pulled the plug on it? If not where can I find it? - Gareth
From: iboehme@abm08.abm.de (Ivo Boehme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint and making TIFF transparent? Date: 18 Aug 1997 10:05:44 GMT Organization: Nacamar Data Communications Message-ID: <5t96po$a73$1@news.nacamar.de> References: <5t3de1$is$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Cc: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org In <5t3de1$is$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > Someone has said that WetPaint can make part of a TIFF file transparent. OK. It was my suggestion ... > > Has anyone done this? I've got the app but can't seem to make it change part > of a .dir.tiff to transparent. > > Thanks > > Well, I think I 've done this once or twice. Select transparency as color and start to paint. I also used the 3.3. IconEditor for that without any problems.
From: Terry Gliedt <tpg@fv.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Alternative OS on black hardware Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:29:48 -0400 Organization: First Virtual Holdings Message-ID: <33F459CC.4AC56A1@fv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Over the years I've heard rumors of a port of Linux or BSDish kernel being ported for the NeXT black hardware (68040 slab in particular). I've been out of touch for some time now. Did anything every come of any of these? I'd appreciate mail from anyone who can shed some light on such efforts. If there is a positive response, I'll post back here. TIA -- =================================================================== Terry Gliedt tpg@aa.fv.com MIME OK First Virtual Holdings http://www.fv.com/ http://www.hps.com/~tpg/
From: Rene Berber <_r.berber@computer.org_> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint and making TIFF transparent? Date: 17 Aug 1997 07:19:10 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <5t68le$ic1$1@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> References: <5t3de1$is$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In <5t3de1$is$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > Someone has said that WetPaint can make part of a TIFF file transparent. > > Has anyone done this? I've got the app but can't seem to make it change part > of a .dir.tiff to transparent. > Yes it works but the File Viewer in Workspace doesn't refresh the image very often. You'll have to change the name .dir.tiff to something else and then back to see the result. --- Rene Berber
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5t9e6a$5qn5233@ren.usr.com> Control: cancel <5t9e6a$5qn5233@ren.usr.com> Date: 18 Aug 1997 13:38:02 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5t9e6a$5qn5233@ren.usr.com> Sender: MillionairePi@forreal.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Alternative OS on black hardware Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 10:26:36 -0400 Organization: IAASCAT Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970818102558.1658A-100000@luomat> References: <33F459CC.4AC56A1@fv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Terry Gliedt <tpg@fv.com> In-Reply-To: <33F459CC.4AC56A1@fv.com> Plan9 has been ported to black hardware, and I have heard of folks talking about OpenBSD & FreeBSD, but nothing to the point of actually being done. TjL
From: gfrancis@psych.purdue.edu (Greg Francis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gnuplot: heavier lines, points... Date: 18 Aug 1997 15:18:22 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5t9p3u$de3@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <5t26uh$nru$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk Try another plotting program. With NextStep I recommend SciPlot. http://ion.rice.edu/nsci/top.html -Greg In <5t26uh$nru$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Thomas Harte wrote: > > How do I make lines, points &c. heavier in Gnuplot? > The output is fine to view in colour on the screen, but > when I try to print it as part of a document the lines are > really thin. > > Worse still, some scatter plots barely show some of the > data points such as diamonds. > > Any remedies? > > -- Assistant Professor Department of Psychological Sciences Purdue University http://www.psych.purdue.edu/~gfrancis/home.html
From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to get Openstep4.2 for Mach Academic? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 08:35:48 -0800 Organization: EdgeMedia Networks Message-ID: <erich-1808970835490001@ppp-207-104-16-47.snrf01.pacbell.net> References: <33F36E3B.21EB@rsinc.com> > Does anyone know how to OpenStep 4.2 for Mach (Acadamic) ? > Is it still even available? I just got a copy from Apple Enterprise. Just send a message to their sales division or call their 800 number, 1800 try next, and they will fill you in on the details
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Alternative OS on black hardware Date: 18 Aug 1997 09:44:42 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5t9u5q$pen@slip.net> References: <33F459CC.4AC56A1@fv.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.970818102558.1658A-100000@luomat> You could purchase DayDream and turn your NeXT into a Mac. Not so bad if you can live with no sound. Then there is Executor which lets your run some Mac apps while running NeXTSTEP. Emmett
From: GehleSoftware@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any next CD- Bburning software? Date: 15 Aug 1997 22:38:20 GMT Organization: Gehle Software Message-ID: <5t2los$nt5$1@news02.btx.dtag.de> References: <5svum9$3kd$2@news0.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CDDesigner V1.2 is availbale at http://www.ip-service.com/gehle CDDesigner V1.3 supporting Yamahas CDR200/400 will come next week. Carsten
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Alternative OS on black hardware Date: 18 Aug 1997 13:55:24 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5tacrs$odu@slip.net> References: <33F459CC.4AC56A1@fv.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.970818102558.1658A-100000@luomat> <5t9u5q$pen@slip.net> Doh't. Forgot to mention. gnumach compiles on NeXT. The source for that kernel is the in public domain. e-
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Contour plotting package Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:04:54 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970818150348.459A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Reply-To: " Any suggestions for a nice contour plotting package I can run on my NeXTStep 3.3 Intel machine? Thanks. Rob rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
From: owolf@NOSPAMpdnt.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quake on OpenStep? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:02:23 -0500 Organization: Orange Wolf Software Message-ID: <owolf-ya02408000R1808972002230001@news.pdnt.com> References: <33f6d36f.8381715@news.demon.co.uk> <5t32pu$1j1g@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5t32pu$1j1g@news.doit.wisc.edu>, bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: >paul@softland.demon.co.uk (Paul Taylor) wrote: >>Is Quake available for OpenStep for Intel/Solaris? > >No/Never, in that order (Sun has dropped OpenStep). > >>Also is the version >>of Doom for NextStep on the Id website for Intel? > >Yes. DoomII (m68k, Intel, HP, Sparc) is available from >http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/DoomII/ I can't seem to get it to install under OpenStep 4.2. Rather, it installs, but there's an app icon with a big question mark. I've tried it several times. Oh, BTW, I'm running on a NeXT Station. Scott Johnson
From: owolf@NOSPAMpdnt.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: >> SHAREWARE - GET IT NOW << Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:06:07 -0500 Organization: Orange Wolf Software Message-ID: <owolf-ya02408000R1808972006070001@news.pdnt.com> References: <33f38823.17455801@news.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <33f38823.17455801@news.xs4all.nl>, mholst@xs4all.nl wrote: >New programs available now! >Download Bay has been renewed! >Get it While it's hot! > >Please been so kind as to visit the the sponsers, specially >if you dont find what your looking for! >If 10% of you would visit ONE sponsor (which won't happen), >half of my internet account would be paid! >It doesn't cost you anything! In fact you'll find some great >stuff there, honest! > >Download Bay >http://come.to/shareware What the hell are you announcing a Win95 software site on a NeXT newsgroup for moron?
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gnuplot: heavier lines, points... Date: 19 Aug 1997 00:18:25 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5taooh$gso@ttacs7.ttu.edu> References: <5t9p3u$de3@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> try abscissa. it's just great. you can find it at ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/plotting/ hs In article <5t9p3u$de3@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> gfrancis@psych.purdue.edu (Greg Francis) writes: > Try another plotting program. With NextStep I recommend SciPlot. > http://ion.rice.edu/nsci/top.html > > -Greg > > In <5t26uh$nru$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Thomas Harte wrote: > > > > How do I make lines, points &c. heavier in Gnuplot? > > The output is fine to view in colour on the screen, but > > when I try to print it as part of a document the lines are > > really thin. > > > > Worse still, some scatter plots barely show some of the > > data points such as diamonds. > > > > Any remedies? > > > > > > > -- > Assistant Professor > Department of Psychological Sciences > Purdue University > http://www.psych.purdue.edu/~gfrancis/home.html > >
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: what does KPerfMon measure for 'Network' ? Date: 19 Aug 1997 03:23:45 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5tb3k1$6fm$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit KPerfMon does a nice job of measuring what is going out over the Ethernet (usually en0). But what does it measure? Any way I can get a list of the things going out/coming in through the Ethernet? I'm not sure if that's enough information... basically I want to be able to get a nice listing of the processes using the link. Anyone lend a hand? TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: iboehme@abm08.abm.de (Ivo Boehme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Debugger App? Date: 19 Aug 1997 07:24:01 GMT Organization: Nacamar Data Communications Message-ID: <5tbhmh$aqe$1@news.nacamar.de> References: <5t6ibt$4el$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In <5t6ibt$4el$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Thomas Harte wrote: >[ ... ]. > > I want to start programming in C/C++ and I am wondering if there is a > graphical debugger available (perhaps there's an IDE?) as standard > with the NEXTSTEP release. All I could find was gdb. I'm used to > using the debugger that comes with SPARCWorks. > > Thanks. > gdb is not "All I could find". I found it quite a nice & mighty debugger. It features a connection with Edit so you get at least a mini graphic control. Just try it ... the menu entry in Edit changes if you type `view' in gdb. AFAIK, there are no other up-to-date debuggers available for NEXTSTEP 3.3. Regards, Ivo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Debugger App? References: <5t6ibt$4el$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <5tbhmh$aqe$1@news.nacamar.de> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Message-ID: <33f94d1c.0@maser.urz.unibas.ch> Date: 19 Aug 97 07:37:00 GMT iboehme@abm08.abm.de (Ivo Boehme) wrote: > In <5t6ibt$4el$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Thomas Harte wrote: > >[ ... ]. > > > > I want to start programming in C/C++ and I am wondering if there is a > > graphical debugger available (perhaps there's an IDE?) as standard > > with the NEXTSTEP release. All I could find was gdb. I'm used to > > using the debugger that comes with SPARCWorks. > > > > Thanks. > > > > gdb is not "All I could find". I found it quite a nice & mighty debugger. > It features a connection with Edit so you get at least a mini > graphic control. Just try it ... the menu entry in Edit changes > if you type `view' in gdb. > > AFAIK, there are no other up-to-date debuggers available > for NEXTSTEP 3.3. Yes there is. It is called SuperDebugger and is commercial. Works just great for NS3.3. (I'm not connected to Impact and have actually had trouble gettign responses from them lately). email: info@impact.com URL: http://www.impact.com/ -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (Guenther Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: loss of icon Date: 19 Aug 1997 04:10:31 GMT Organization: University of Economics and Business Administration, Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <5tb6bn$n1s@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> Hi, somehow I lost my 'home directory'-icon in the workspace manager a few days ago. Now instead of the house, I can see a normal folder icon. What has happened and who knows how to solve this problem? Guenther
From: "Kyle Johnson" <kylejohnson@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTstep 4.1 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:46:22 -0700 Message-ID: <33f99630.0@news2.ibm.net> What is the price for NeXTstep 4.1 developer and user? I am considering buying it, and I am just looking at the options. Thanx, Kyle (kylejohnson@ibm.net)
From: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Summary of scanner experience under NS 3.3 Date: 19 Aug 1997 13:26:41 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <SHAFFER.97Aug19092641@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> Below I outline some things that I learned while searching for a low-end scanner for black hardware under NeXTSTEP 3.3. This info is by no means comprehensive, just a few comments for people who don't want to "buy and try" as I did. I doubt that this needs to be said but... Get a SCSI scanner (typically refered to as the "Macintosh" version of the scanner but sometimes the PC version is SCSI as well). There is no software that I know of that supports parallel port scanners under NeXTSTEP. ============================= Scanners: Mustek 600 (and probably 1200): Locks up SCSI bus while scanning. Unusable on black hardware unless you scan at very low resolution. Probably OK on intel since they supply a SCSI card which you could use in addition to the SCSI card on your system. Microtek ScanMaker V300: Couldn't get this to work with any of the software that claims to support the ScanMakers. It's fairly new so this may change in time. Microtek ScanMaker E3 and E6: Work great with mtekscan. ============================= Software: ScanMaker.app(on Peak and Peanuts): Supports older or more expensive ScanMaker scanners. Does not work with current versions of the E3 and E6 (or V300). No support for one-pass scanning so an update to this software would take a while. I have contacted Black Albatross (the owner's of the Copyright to ScanMaker.app) and they seem willing to allow me to make a port but I haven't gotten around to it. mtekscan(http://fb4-1112.uni-muenster.de/ffwd/ffwd_mtekscan.html): CLI only. Works great with all of the ScanMakers (except the V300). I have ported it to NeXTSTEP 3.3 and others are making changes needed for OPENSTEP/Mach. Produces ppm files so you will need PBMPlus or NetPBM. sane(http://www.azstarnet.com/~axplinux/sane/index.html): Actually a scanner independent library + backends for many existing scanners. Includes a frontend scanning program that is CLI only (plus some X-windows stuff which doesn't yet work under NS). Should work with Mutek (see above), HP, and older UMAX scanners. Being updated to support newer UMAX scanners and a backend is being written for the ScanMaker series. Has nice network scanning daemon. Look at the web page and get on the mailing list if you want to know more. MScan.app(http://www.this.net/~frank/franksprojects.html): Supports only Mustek 6000. Author is in process of modifying it to use the sane library and should therefore support all scanners that sane supports. Scan.app(Peak and Peanuts): Supports older UMAXes??? scan300(Peak and Peanuts): Supports Epson scanner (300c?) ============================= Other comments: If you're patient, the MScan/sane combo seems to be the most robost software wise. You could then choose from the large variety of scanners supported by sane. If you're impatient or have an urgent need for a scanner, get a ScanMaker E3 or E6 and use mtekscan. Eventually sane will support the ScanMakers so you can take advantage of MScan at that time. I hope that this information is useful to someone. Comments are welcome. David --- C. David Shaffer, Ph.D. Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 (402)375-7471 NeXTMail/MIME welcome! -- David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 shaffer@phyast.pitt.edu NeXTMail/MIME welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Any next CD- Bburning software? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EF2KBB.n91@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 17:52:23 GMT References: <5svum9$3kd$2@news0.xs4all.nl> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5svum9$3kd$2@news0.xs4all.nl>, avib <avib@xs2.xs4all.nl> wrote: >Hello all, > >I was wondering if there's any software out there for Nextstep that can >burn CD-R's? > Check out CDDesigner on Peak. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Kai Cherry <mrkai@sakurakai.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apache /NextStep Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 11:03:27 -0400 Organization: @Home Networks Message-ID: <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone compiled a recent verion of this? If so, please point me to it for m68k. (I'm one of those unfortunate folks w/ no compiler...) Thanks...
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From: Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: Rhapsody on Apple PC Card? Date: 19 Aug 1997 12:26:56 -0400 Organization: Northern Telecom Ltd., Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <iwkoh6um94f.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> A few weeks ago, someone posted here (comp.sys.next.*) telling how they had gotten Prelude to Rhapsody up and running on their Apple PC Card. I've searched through AltaVista and HotBot and can't find any such posting. Would someone mind re-posting the message? Thanks, Christopher === Christopher Rath === crath@nortel.ca === (613) 765-3141 === Northern Telecom Ltd. | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: mrkai@home.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: "Diet" for Nextstep? Date: 19 Aug 1997 17:51:43 GMT Organization: @Home Networks Message-ID: <5tcmff$cmq$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> I understand that there is a program that removes the code in MAB's for unused architectures, similiar to what "Diet" does for Macintash FAT binaries. What is this utility called? Thanks
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Best ISP in San Francisco powered by NeXTSTEP Date: 19 Aug 1997 11:46:24 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5tcpm0$7aj@slip.net> Hi, Did you know that www.sirius.com a major ISP in San Francisco is powered by NeXTSTEP black hardware? Well, perhaps it's OPENSTEP I did't think to ask. At the Cow Palace Computer Show last saturday I visited their both and talked with a few employees. They said the worksite very easy on the eyes with a bunch of NeXT cubes and designer furniture. When I said it must be a great place to work they all raved. To bad you can't get a shell account there. Net yet anyway. Emmett
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: "Diet" for Nextstep? Date: 19 Aug 1997 19:25:10 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5tcrum$npc$3@cronkite.cygnus.com> References: <5tcmff$cmq$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mrkai@home.com In <5tcmff$cmq$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> mrkai@home.com wrote: > I understand that there is a program that removes the code in MAB's for > unused architectures, similiar to what "Diet" does for Macintash FAT > binaries. > > What is this utility called? > > Thanks > lipo (as in "Liposuction") -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Thought for the day: According to the supreme court, proof of innocence isn't enough to avoid execution if you've exhausted your appeals.
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apache /NextStep Date: 19 Aug 1997 21:13:58 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5td2am$frs$1@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mrkai@sakurakai.com In <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Kai Cherry wrote: > Has anyone compiled a recent verion of this? > I don't know how recent this is: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/apache/apache.1.0.5.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/apache/apache.1.0.5.README ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/apache/apache.1.0.5.bd.NIHS.gnutar.gz send an email to 'luomat@peak.org' with the SUBJECT search-peak apache TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: "Diet" for Nextstep? Date: 19 Aug 1997 22:29:05 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5td6nh$asi$1@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5tcmff$cmq$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mrkai@home.com In <5tcmff$cmq$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> mrkai@home.com wrote: > I understand that there is a program that removes the code in MAB's for > unused architectures, similiar to what "Diet" does for Macintash FAT > binaries. 'lipo' is what you are looking for. TickleServices can also do this, but that's a little more involved (but well worth it sometime!) Assuming you have a NeXT computer (ie not an Intel, HP or Sparc) you'd want lipo -thin m68k /path/to/Some.app/Some -output /path/to/Some.app/Some at the commandline. Note some programs have more than one executable. lipo -info /path/to/another/file will tell you what, if any, archs are found in 'file' TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <190897183906@discount-software9.com> Control: cancel <190897183906@discount-software9.com> Date: 19 Aug 1997 22:49:48 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.190897183906@discount-software9.com> Sender: "DISCOUNTS !" software@discount-software9.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger) Subject: Re: Apache /NextStep Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <EF6I72.JtI@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> Sender: news@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: mrkai@sakurakai.com Organization: none References: <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 20:57:02 GMT In <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Kai Cherry wrote: > Has anyone compiled a recent verion of this? > > If so, please point me to it for m68k. > > (I'm one of those unfortunate folks w/ no compiler...) > > Thanks... > > ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Network/www/programs/apache.1.0.5.NIHS.bs.gnutar.gz -- Olaf Foellinger homepage: http://www1.stuttgart.netsurf.de/~ergo/ NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
From: root@guzzibill.cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apache /NextStep Date: 20 Aug 1997 01:01:32 GMT Organization: CADVision Development Corp. Message-ID: <5tdflc$vq2@elmo.cadvision.com> References: <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mrkai@sakurakai.com In <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Kai Cherry wrote: > Has anyone compiled a recent verion of this? > I recently retrieved the 1.2.1 version from their web site and by following instructions, with a few mis-steps got it to serve up pages for me locally. my feeling here is that this is an entire package that needs its reference files & directories as well. If I simply mailed you the resultant httpd binary, it would not be sufficient. Although willing to assist in any way, I feel I know not how! Perhaps others could advise. -- Bill Scollard Calgary, Canada Scollard Holdings Ltd. "Computer Systems : Cradle-to-Grave"
From: mrkai@home.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apache on NeXT archives-very old Date: 20 Aug 1997 01:57:59 GMT Organization: @Home Networks Message-ID: <5tdiv7$jhl$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> In article <5td2am$frs$1@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com>, you wrote: >In <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Kai Cherry wrote: >> Has anyone compiled a recent verion of this? >> > >I don't know how recent this is: > very old. Is Apache "the" Nextstep webserver that folks are running, or are there others?
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From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,sci.image.processing,comp.graphics.misc,comp.graphics.algorithms Subject: multi-d image formats : not TIFF? Date: 20 Aug 1997 10:31:22 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <5teh1q$ro1$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I work with multi-D greyscale images (256 x 256 x 28 x 4) and have lots of software and viewers on my SPARC. I don't mind re-writing a lot of the software for my PPro running NeXTSTEP, but I cannot find a suitable image format to handle and view the images. TIFF only seems to handle 8-bit greyscale images. Mine are unsigned shorts (16 bits per pixel), signed/unsigned ints (32 bits per pixel), floats (32 bits) and doubles (real/imag 64 bits per pixel). ******Are there other (free!) image viewing apps out there? Are there any image processing packages with NeXTSTEP-compatible viewers as per many of the X-based variants such as Vista for UNIX? ******** The latter handles just about any type of image because of its flexible data formatting. -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 MIME & NeXT Mail OK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,sci.image.processing,comp.graphics.misc,comp.graphics.algorithms From: Tom Lane <tgl@netcom.com> Subject: Re: multi-d image formats : not TIFF? Message-ID: <uo9wwlhaqy9.fsf@netcom5.netcom.com> Sender: tgl@netcom5.netcom.com Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services References: <5teh1q$ro1$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:07:10 GMT Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> writes: > TIFF only seems to handle 8-bit greyscale images. Mine are unsigned shorts > (16 bits per pixel), signed/unsigned ints (32 bits per pixel), floats (32 > bits) and doubles (real/imag 64 bits per pixel). Huh? TIFF handles all those. You couldn't directly declare something to be complex data, but you could store it as two float samples per pixel. Read the TIFF spec rather than inferring its limitations from some piece of software. Most "TIFF" software I've seen barely manages all of the baseline-TIFF subset. Now, if you're looking for a format where all of the above is actually supported by the "average application", I'm afraid you're out of luck. Most apps wouldn't handle the above regardless of format. ftp.sgi.com:/graphics/tiff/ has the TIFF spec and a more-complete-than- the-average-implementation TIFF library. You should also look at scientifically-oriented data formats, like HDF and FITS. I don't know much about those, but they might be up to the task. regards, tom lane
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apache /NextStep Message-ID: <1TGU4n2ej9ra@cc.usu.edu> From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 20 Aug 97 09:26:06 MDT References: <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: mrkai@sakurakai.com In <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Kai Cherry wrote: > Has anyone compiled a recent verion of this? > > If so, please point me to it for m68k. > > (I'm one of those unfortunate folks w/ no compiler...) > I have compiled version 1.2 with no problems. If you still need it, let me know. edx@cc.usu.edu
From: Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: Allegro Common Lisp for NS3.3 ? Date: 20 Aug 1997 18:14:51 +0200 Organization: Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co Sender: vkyr@wildfire.lavielle.com Message-ID: <x2vi103k78.fsf@wildfire.lavielle.com> Can somebody tell me if "Allegro Common Lisp" from Franz Inc. is still available for NS3.3, or if older versions include CLOS and still run ??? If it still runs under NS3.3 where can I get it from? Thanks in advance Valentino -- Valentino Kyriakides Email: vkyr@lavielle.com (No NeXTmail here)
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apache on NeXT archives-very old Date: 20 Aug 1997 17:24:29 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5tf98d$asi$4@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5tdiv7$jhl$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mrkai@home.com In <5tdiv7$jhl$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> mrkai@home.com wrote: > In article <5td2am$frs$1@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com>, you wrote: > >In <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Kai Cherry wrote: > >> Has anyone compiled a recent verion of this? > >> > > > >I don't know how recent this is: > > > very old. what is the most recent version and where is the source? > Is Apache "the" Nextstep webserver that folks are running, or are there > others? I have no idea TjL ps -- are the division signs in your From line there on purpose? It will keep folks from being able to reply -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: wswats@boat (William Swats) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is SmartSoft? Date: 20 Aug 1997 21:23:51 GMT Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content Message-ID: <5tfn97$218@miwok.nbn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello; I wanted to buy a copy of FAXEditor from SmartSoft but have been unable to contact them. I have tried their phone numbers (disconnected) and email (no reply). Does anyone know anything about them? Thanks; William -- William Swats VOICE: 415-456-9669 31 San Marino Dr. VOICE: 500-488-9669 San Rafael, CA 94901-1535 FAX: 415-456-7751 EMAIL: wswats@nbn.com (NeXTMail, MIME, ASCII)
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <33fb640b.0@NEWS.CLOVER.NET> Control: cancel <33fb640b.0@NEWS.CLOVER.NET> Date: 20 Aug 1997 21:45:36 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.33fb640b.0@NEWS.CLOVER.NET> Sender: vutil@gwe.nws.net Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <33fb6f68.1@news.inreach.com> Control: cancel <33fb6f68.1@news.inreach.com> Date: 20 Aug 1997 22:29:53 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.33fb6f68.1@news.inreach.com> Sender: r98ru@a908falfjsd.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: mrkai@home.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apache on NeXT archives-very old Date: 21 Aug 1997 00:01:44 GMT Organization: @Home Networks Message-ID: <5tg0h8$h50$2@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> References: <5tdiv7$jhl$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> <5tf98d$asi$4@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> the apache source is (always) available @ http://www.apache.org/dist/ -K
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From: opardalis@aol.com (Opardalis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to setup Server???? Date: 21 Aug 1997 00:25:53 GMT Message-ID: <19970821002500.UAA15089@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com I just bought a NeXTStation 68040 25MHZ running NS 3.0. Im trying to setup a web,ftp and mail server. However, I am not having a very easy time. Anyone have any suggestions, help?
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5tandu$bgi$76@e3000.supernews.com> Control: cancel <5tandu$bgi$76@e3000.supernews.com> Date: 21 Aug 1997 00:54:08 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5tandu$bgi$76@e3000.supernews.com> Sender: Kumadisc1@aol.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vrotney@netcom.com (William Paul Vrotney) Subject: Re: Q: Allegro Common Lisp for NS3.3 ? In-Reply-To: Valentino Kyriakides's message of 20 Aug 1997 18:14:51 +0200 Message-ID: <vrotneyEF8oFw.2Ko@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <x2vi103k78.fsf@wildfire.lavielle.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 01:07:08 GMT Sender: vrotney@netcom16.netcom.com In article <x2vi103k78.fsf@wildfire.lavielle.com> Valentino Kyriakides <vkyr@lavielle.com> writes: > > Can somebody tell me if "Allegro Common Lisp" from Franz Inc. is still available > for NS3.3, or if older versions include CLOS and still run ??? > > If it still runs under NS3.3 where can I get it from? > > Allegro Common lisp is a commercial Lisp. http://www.franz.com/ You also need a patch to get it to work under NS3.2. I don't know if anybody has tried the same patch under NS3.3. -- William P. Vrotney - vrotney@netcom.com
From: eberly@cs.unc.edu (David Eberly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,sci.image.processing,comp.graphics.misc,comp.graphics.algorithms Subject: Re: multi-d image formats : not TIFF? Date: 20 Aug 1997 22:22:26 -0400 Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Message-ID: <5tg8p2$ghs@currituck.cs.unc.edu> References: <5teh1q$ro1$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In article <5teh1q$ro1$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> wrote: >I work with multi-D greyscale images (256 x 256 x 28 x 4) and have lots of >software >and viewers on my SPARC. I don't mind re-writing a lot of the software >for my PPro running NeXTSTEP, but I cannot find a suitable image format >to handle and view the images. > >TIFF only seems to handle 8-bit greyscale images. Mine are unsigned shorts >(16 bits per pixel), signed/unsigned ints (32 bits per pixel), floats (32 >bits) >and doubles (real/imag 64 bits per pixel). > >******Are there other (free!) image viewing apps out there? Are there any >image >processing packages with NeXTSTEP-compatible viewers as per many of >the X-based variants such as Vista for UNIX? ******** I have a full C++ library, MAGIC, for handling multidimensional images at http://www.cs.unc.edu/~eberly. The Postscript file (quite large, prints to about 350 pages) for documentation describes a lot of the library. The first few chapters describe in particular the image file and image memory handling. Last I looked, the xdisp.c program I have handles up to 4D images. Send me email if you are interested in using this viewer and I will check to make sure it works as advertised. Dave Eberly eberly@cs.unc.edu
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: new apache on PEAK & peanuts Date: 21 Aug 1997 04:34:48 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5tggh8$an8$4@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5tdiv7$jhl$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> <5tf98d$asi$4@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5tg0h8$h50$2@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In response to the recent conversations here, I have compiled the apache 'httpd' and put it on PEAK and Peanuts. Checkout http://www.peak.org/next/new_arrivals/ There will be an official announcement on csn.announce shortly TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: "Diet" for Nextstep? Date: 21 Aug 1997 09:46:32 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5th2po$ino@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5tcmff$cmq$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> lipo NS3.3 (qlipo, plipo are clones for NS3.0) there is tool called Thinner.app witch gives you the service thin... Sven
From: Kai Cherry <mrkai@sakurakai.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: new apache on PEAK & peanuts Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:58:52 -0400 Organization: @Home Networks Message-ID: <33FC57AC.8AFDF38A@sakurakai.com> References: <5tdiv7$jhl$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> <5tf98d$asi$4@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5tg0h8$h50$2@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> <5tggh8$an8$4@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Tim! Now I can use a couple of "Powered By Nextstep" thingees with pride and confidence :) Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > In response to the recent conversations here, I have compiled the apache > 'httpd' and put it on PEAK and Peanuts. > > Checkout http://www.peak.org/next/new_arrivals/ > > There will be an official announcement on csn.announce shortly > > TjL > -- > "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having > workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people > knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: > http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: phein@gromit.wright.edu (Peter Hein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 4.x on Black Hardware Date: 21 Aug 1997 15:06:52 GMT Organization: Wright State University Message-ID: <5thlic$2o4$1@mercury.wright.edu> I have a question for everyone. Recenlty I have inherited some Black hardware, one slab and one cube. Both are having fits and refuse to boot into anything but single-user mode. I have read that you can install 4.x on the Black hardware. I have the 3.3 boot floppy image, but it the machine will panic once it starts to read from the CD. Could someone point out a source or let me know how to install the 4.x on the black hardware. I really do appreciate any help in this matter. -- Peter N. Hein Macintosh Desktop Technician Wright State University - CaTS - Network Services phein@gromit.wright.edu -- NeXT Mail Friendly!
From: sbhunter@osprey.smcm.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: SCSI CD-ROM Drivers Anywhere? Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:50:15 GMT Organization: St. Mary's College of MD Message-ID: <5ti60f$jm$1@hecate.umd.edu> We have some NeXT cubes & slabs, as well as some SCSI CD-ROM drives. We'd LOVE to get these guys talking, esp. with the latest versions of things coming out on CD-ROM. Nothing fancy; we just want to mount a CD & be able to read from it. I'm assuming that we need drivers to make this happen, but don't know where to look for them -- in fact, I'm not sure what else/instead-of-drivers we would need. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, scott
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:36:45 -0600 From: mahesh@mahesh.com Subject: Has vim (vi editor) been ported to NeXT ? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <872198983.29952@dejanews.com> Organization: Paragon Software, Inc. Keywords: NeXT, vim Has anyone ported vim editor to NeXT? thanks BG Mahesh -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Contour plotting package Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EF7y4G.DMo@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 15:38:39 GMT References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970818150348.459A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <Pine.NXT.3.96.970818150348.459A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu>, Robert G. Jacobs <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> wrote: >Any suggestions for a nice contour plotting package I can run on my >NeXTStep 3.3 Intel machine? Thanks. > I think both Mathematica and Maple can do this. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: SCSI CD-ROM Drivers Anywhere? Date: 21 Aug 1997 23:23:02 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <5tiikm$8n3$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <5ti60f$jm$1@hecate.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: sbhunter@osprey.smcm.edu In <5ti60f$jm$1@hecate.umd.edu> sbhunter@osprey.smcm.edu wrote: > We have some NeXT cubes & slabs, as well as some SCSI CD-ROM drives. > We'd LOVE to get these guys talking, esp. with the latest versions of > things coming out on CD-ROM. Nothing fancy; we just want to mount a > CD & be able to read from it. I'm assuming that we need drivers to > make this happen, but don't know where to look for them -- in fact, > I'm not sure what else/instead-of-drivers we would need. > > Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. Drivers ?? I don't think so. Did you try and it didn't work, or are you just wondering if..?? As far as I know and as far as I've tried, CDROM on NeXT hardware is plug'n'play. Plug it in....it works straightaway Insert a CD....it mounts automatically on your workspace... There is no problem, and no driver needed either. That's it !! Try and have fun Martin
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Has vim (vi editor) been ported to NeXT ? Date: 22 Aug 1997 00:33:44 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5timp8$j6a$5@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <872198983.29952@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mahesh@mahesh.com In <872198983.29952@dejanews.com> mahesh@mahesh.com wrote: > Has anyone ported vim editor to NeXT? yes but I don't know how old it is: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Unix/editor/vim-5.0f-athena.N.b.tar.gz ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Unix/editor/vim-5.0f-motif.N.b.tar.gz ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Unix/editor/vim-5.0f.N.b.tar.gz ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Unix/editor/vim-5.0f.README ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Unix/editor/vim-5.0f.s.tar.gz ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Unix/editor/vim.3.0.README ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Unix/editor/vim.3.0.s.tar.gz TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: Babak Ashrafi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: printing .pbm from commandline Date: 21 Aug 1997 16:21:14 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5thptq$b91@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I have .pbm files which I would like to print from the command line. While open file.pbm opens OmniImage and displays the image, open -p file.pbm returns open: can't open connection to OmniImage on local host. How do you do this? Thanks Babak Please correct reply-to address in headers
From: deanDOTshough@lmco.com (Dean Shough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,sci.image.processing,comp.graphics.misc,comp.graphics.algorithms Subject: Re: multi-d image formats : not TIFF? Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 05:15:47 -0700 Organization: Lockheed Martin - Advanced Optical Metrology Message-ID: <deanDOTshough-2208970515470001@dean.atc.lmco.com> References: <5teh1q$ro1$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Try using HDF. It can read 8 bit, 16 bit, floats, etc. A library to read and write HDF files (with source code) plus a browser (Mac, Wondows, Unix) is available from http://www.fortner.com/ They also make commercial packages for 1-D (Plot), 2-D (Transform), and 3-D (T3D) analysis of scientific data. In article <5teh1q$ro1$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> wrote: > I work with multi-D greyscale images (256 x 256 x 28 x 4) and have lots of > software > and viewers on my SPARC. I don't mind re-writing a lot of the software > for my PPro running NeXTSTEP, but I cannot find a suitable image format > to handle and view the images. > > TIFF only seems to handle 8-bit greyscale images. Mine are unsigned shorts > (16 bits per pixel), signed/unsigned ints (32 bits per pixel), floats (32 > bits) > and doubles (real/imag 64 bits per pixel). > > ******Are there other (free!) image viewing apps out there? Are there any > image > processing packages with NeXTSTEP-compatible viewers as per many of > the X-based variants such as Vista for UNIX? ******** > > The latter handles just about any type of image because of its flexible data > formatting. > > -- > thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; > tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; > http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 MIME & NeXT Mail OK. -- ---- Dean Shough - dean dot shough@lmco.com
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: gdb won't 'view' Date: 22 Aug 1997 14:02:05 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <5tk64t$dsf$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii gdb won't fire its graphical end when I type 'view' having fired it in a terminal. i start ProjectBuilder beforehand and Edit.app is in developer mode, but nothing happens to Edit.app (a new menu button is supposed to appear). i haven't used PB but have tried various things to get some sort of debugging inof but no joy. also, i want to stay with gdb if at all possible. what am i doing wrong? running NS 3.3 on Intel PPro. -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 MIME & NeXT Mail OK.
From: rubin@ezy.net (Alan Rubin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for a Socks-based... Date: 22 Aug 1997 16:29:51 GMT Organization: Ezy.net Internet the easy way! 410-742-1610 Message-ID: <5tkepv$ra6$1@news.dn.net> I've recently created a little lan between my NeXT slab and my win95 pc. I'm using the win95 machine as the gateway to my internet connection (dial-up), but I require socks3- compatible clients on my NeXT for telnet, ftp, etc. Can anybody help? I'd also like to use a browser (omniweb?) on my NeXT side with this lan. can that be done? thanks, alan rubin rubin@ezy.net _________________ GSTek Corporation *Alan Rubin* Ezy.Net Corporation Sun/Networking/ISP Stuff -- BUY/SELL/TRADE -- FAX: 410-742-1381 Email:rubin@ezy.net Voice:410-742-1610 Web:http://www.ezy.net/gstek
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Drag Wells for Documents... Date: 22 Aug 1997 17:33:38 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5tkihi$6v9$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> In a number of document-based apps, there is a drag well in the main window representing the entire document (Sound.app, for example). In others it's missing. There are many times using a word processor, or Mail.app, that I find myself looking for a documents Drag Well. Is there a specific reason it's not there? Regards, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net) disclaimer: speaking for myself, not my employer.
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drag Wells for Documents... Date: 22 Aug 1997 17:53:47 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5tkjnb$pi9@shelob.afs.com> References: <5tkihi$6v9$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> alanf@izzy.net writes > In a number of document-based apps, there is a drag well in the main > window representing the entire document (Sound.app, for example). In > others it's missing. There are many times using a word processor, or > Mail.app, that I find myself looking for a documents Drag Well. Is > there a specific reason it's not there? Every author decides whether or not this is desireable. I happen not to like them, because they take up a lot of space in both directions. But most people don't release there is a general OS operation to drag a representation of a document: Hold down Alt, then click and drag on the miniaturize button in the top left corner of the window. Voila! In Rhapsody, there is a distinct icon for this purpose, just to the left of the title text, that does not require a modifier key. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "We're in the land of the blind, Visionary Ophthalmologist | selling working eyeballs, and they Anderson Financial Systems | balk at the choice of color." -- Tony greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | Lovell, on Mac user reactions to NeXT
From: wswats@boat (William Swats) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Has anyone complied libg++-2.7.1 or libg++-2.7.2 for OpenStep 4.2 Date: 22 Aug 1997 18:42:37 GMT Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content Message-ID: <5tkmit$s7o@miwok.nbn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi; Has anyone complied libg++-2.7.1 or libg++-2.7.2 for OpenStep 4.2. I recieved the following response from Next/Apple when asking why the lig++ headers were missing in OPENSTEP 4.2. > The libg++ headers and link capability with the new compiler > has been removed from the 4.2 product image. A current > libg++ distribution is available from many ftp sites (e.g. > ¬ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/g++/libg++-2.7.1.tar.gz). It can > be built and placed on the system by developers wishing to > continue using libg++. -- William Swats VOICE: 415-456-9669 31 San Marino Dr. VOICE: 500-488-9669 San Rafael, CA 94901-1535 FAX: 415-456-7751 EMAIL: wswats@nbn.com (NeXTMail, MIME, ASCII)
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drag Wells for Documents... Date: 22 Aug 1997 20:03:21 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5tkra9$hg2$1@concorde.ctp.com> References: <5tkihi$6v9$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> alanf@izzy.net wrote: >In a number of document-based apps, there is a drag well in the main window >representing the entire document (Sound.app, for example). In others it's >missing. There are many times using a word processor, or Mail.app, that I >find myself looking for a documents Drag Well. Is there a specific reason >it's not there? You are searching for a drag or a drop well ? The "drag" well is the minimize button (ALT-drag it). Works nicely if the applciation supports it. But then this is quite easy to implement if you want to have it done differntly. Drop Well... well there is lots of drag & drop code in the MiscKIt. Part of it war file drop wells and similar things. You because developers don't put them there dosn't mean taht this sort of thing could not be done fairly easily. Aloha Tomi
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drag Wells for Documents... Date: 22 Aug 1997 20:08:55 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5tkrkn$hg2$2@concorde.ctp.com> References: <5tkihi$6v9$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> <5tkra9$hg2$1@concorde.ctp.com> Following up to my own posting... tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) wrote: >The "drag" well is the minimize button (ALT-drag it). Works nicely if the >applciation supports it. Ok...this was not a good sentence. "nicely" means that there is little you have to do..but the ALT-drag thing is a kludge. Rhapsody will use the "real" thing (like the Openstep 4.0beta UI was planned to be) "supports it" meants that the developer has to set the windows title according to the filepath...or explicitly specify the represented file for that window. Since most apps but the path into the windows title bar this features magically works in 90% of all NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP apps. Ok..hope this makes my original posting a little bit less misleading. Aloha Tomi
From: dmwood@tater.Mines.EDU (David M. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: g77 OK with OS4.2? Date: 22 Aug 1997 20:02:14 GMT Organization: Colorado School of Mines Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5tkr86$v62$1@magma.Mines.EDU> Keywords: g77, OpenStep 4.2 Howdy all. [This is a repost of a query to which I received no replies in late July, possibly because our news feed crashed for several days :( I'm hoping that OpenStep 4.2 has diffused around more by now.] Has anyone managed to compile g77 (looks like version 0.5.20 is the latest) under OpenStep 4.2 (which uses gcc 2.7.2, I think)? I had bad problems under OS 4.0 associated with the sequence in which libraries were searched, and (if I remember rightly) the new assumption in OS 4.0 that all libraries are dynamic (?). Mark Bessey made some excellent suggestions about building static executables, but I never could fix my problem. [The dreaded message ld: warning archive library: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386-next-nextstep3/2.7.2/libgcc.a appears after reference to dynamic shared library and will be searched as a dynamic shared library was an indicator of the problem.] Many thanks for any information about g77 and OS 4.2. -- David M. Wood Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401 Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840 http://www.physics.mines.edu/people/pages/wood.html e-mail: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
From: info@starr.com (Rex Riley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drag Wells for Documents... Date: 22 Aug 1997 20:32:59 GMT Organization: @Home Networks Message-ID: <5tkt1r$k3j$5@ha1.rdc1.sdca.home.com> References: <5tkihi$6v9$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: alanf@izzy.net In <5tkihi$6v9$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> alanf@izzy.net wrote: > In a number of document-based apps, there is a drag well in the main window > representing the entire document (Sound.app, for example). In others it's > missing. There are many times using a word processor, or Mail.app, that I > find myself looking for a documents Drag Well. Is there a specific reason > it's not there? > Drag wells haven't been a huge UI success for keyboard based .apps (such as word processing, Mail.app). They require that hands be removed from the keyboard to operate the mouse for the drag well task. A little pedantic. They are useful for collecting, assembling type exercises where the "document" can be shared with another .app. The drag well provides an easy "target" for the the mouse. That is about the extent of their usefulness. An incredible document based .app on the NeXTSTEP platform called Pages relied on a document well to accomplish fonts, style, paragraphs, etc... The UI was the weakest part of the Pages.app because of their choice of using a document well and the UI that went with that decision. They aren't fun if you have to work with them. -r Rex Riley rex@starr.com
From: geordie@chapman.com (Geordie Korper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Remote hosting on Rhapsody Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 15:17:43 -0500 Organization: Chapman and Cutler Message-ID: <geordie-ya02408000R2208971517430001@kyrie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Any thoughts about whether I could use one of my slabs to host NeXTstep apps and run the the interface on my Rhapsody Macintosh. -- Geordie Korper geordie@chapman.com ********************************************************************* * The text above should in no way be construed to represent the * * opinions of my employer, even if specifically stated to do so. * *********************************************************************
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drag Wells for Documents... Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:01:46 -0400 Organization: SoftArc Inc. Message-ID: <maury-2208971701460001@199.166.204.230> References: <5tkihi$6v9$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> In article <5tkihi$6v9$1@inet-prime.comshare.com>, alanf@izzy.net wrote: > In a number of document-based apps, there is a drag well in the main window > representing the entire document (Sound.app, for example). In others it's > missing. There are many times using a word processor, or Mail.app, that I > find myself looking for a documents Drag Well. Is there a specific reason > it's not there? I think this may not be an issue in Rhapsody, as all document windows have draggable icons representing themselves. While on the topic, I'd like to see the wells system used a lot more - I really like it. I can see "ruler wells" for one. I'd also like to see some standardization of the well's interface, so you know what you're looking at is a well. Maury
From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.eunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drag Wells for Documents... Date: 22 Aug 1997 20:00:39 GMT Organization: Far Out Labs, Inc. Message-ID: <5tkr57$92k@ragnarok.en.eunet.de> References: <5tkihi$6v9$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> <5tkjnb$pi9@shelob.afs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Gregory H. Anderson wrote: > alanf@izzy.net writes > > In a number of document-based apps, there is a drag well in the main > > window representing the entire document (Sound.app, for example). In > > (snip) > > Every author decides whether or not this is desireable. I happen not to > like them, because they take up a lot of space in both directions. But > most people don't release there is a general OS operation to drag a > representation of a document: Hold down Alt, then click and drag on the > miniaturize button in the top left corner of the window. Voila! Just wanted to post that myself..said feature has been there since 3.3, and only few people seem to know it. Is there any truth to the rumor that this was only put into the AppKit to annoy the then-alive Taligent folks, since they were bragging at every possible occasion that they could drag out a 'Person object' out of a window and drop it somewhere else? Apparently ,some press people went totally hoopla over this feature, mighty impressed by the pure OOness of the system.. :-) > In Rhapsody, there is a distinct icon for this purpose, just to the left > of the title text, that does not require a modifier key. Good. Holger -- holger"at"ragnarok.en.eunet.de (NeXTMail, MIME) 'Where I come from it's important to develop stuff that doesn't suck.' -- David Young <dwy"at"ace.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: piers@ilink.de (Piers Uso Walter) Subject: Re: Apache on NeXT archives-very old Sender: news@charly.mediahaus.de (News System) Organization: Mediahaus Stroebel in Duesseldorf (Germany) Message-ID: <EFC8JJ.62s@charly.mediahaus.de> References: <5tdiv7$jhl$1@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 23:14:07 GMT mrkai@home.com writes > In article <5td2am$frs$1@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com>, you wrote: > >In <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Kai Cherry wrote: > >> Has anyone compiled a recent verion of this? > >> > > > >I don't know how recent this is: > > > very old. > > Is Apache "the" Nextstep webserver that folks are running, or are > there others? I don't know about "folks" but we exclusively use Apache on Nextstep / Openstep. We're converting some of our customer's Netscape servers to Apache as well, at least when we're asked to do WebObjects programming. Apart from the Roxen server which has some very interesting features, but sadly enough is still too unstable to use in serious production environments, I don't see any other webserver choice that makes much sense under Nextstep. Piers -- -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- "I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =- Piers Uso Walter, ilink GmbH <piers@ilink.de> -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-
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From: "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to change a video driver from the boot ? Date: 23 Aug 1997 10:24:59 GMT Organization: SCT / Worldnet - Internet Provider & Information Exchange - Paris, France Message-ID: <01bcafae$fb6805c0$100e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> Hello, I'm using Openstep for Mach 4.1 on Intel platform (P200) I have a Diamond 3D 3000 video card. The problem : I changed the video driver : I'd try to use the 3D 2000 driver, but when the computer is booting the driver don't work, I see nothing on the screen. I would change another time my driver (and use the 3D 3000 driver) but I can't use the configuration panel. I have only access on the promt ("boot : "). I have use the boot with the Default option but it the same result. Did another boot option wich can run the computer with another driver ? Please help me. solfra@worlnet.fr
From: mampunkta@hotmail.com (Miladus Edenensis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scanner and OCR Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 12:47:26 -0500 Organization: Pleroma Message-ID: <mampunkta-ya02408000R2308971247260001@news.jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am looking for recommendations and suggestions for a scanner and OCR that can handle French to work with a NeXT Turbo Station running NeXTStep 3.3. Ideally, I would like a scanner that would also be compatible with the Mac. Many thanks in advance, Miladus
From: "Steve Dieringer" <sdiering@columbus.rr.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where to buy... Date: 23 Aug 1997 22:14:16 GMT Organization: Time Warner Message-ID: <01bcb012$05967e60$a8e2d2cc@emt1> Where's the best place to buy OpenStep for NT? Any upgrade available for my NS 3.3 Intel? Thanks, Steve
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <13779871790424@digifix.com> Date: 24 Aug 1997 03:53:23 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <10179872395226@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. 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From: "Steve Dieringer" <sdiering@columbus.rr.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <01bcb012$05967e60$a8e2d2cc@emt1> Control: cancel <01bcb012$05967e60$a8e2d2cc@emt1> Date: 24 Aug 1997 13:27:37 GMT Organization: Time Warner Communications Message-ID: <01bcb091$9aa6f230$a8e2d2cc@emt1> Steve steved@bankone.com
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ParaSheet/Quantrix Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 07:29:44 +0200 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <33FBD248.41C6@de.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any other advantage of ParaSheet over Quantrix except the macro language?? Henry -- ----------- http://www.ti6.tu-harburg.de/~ti6hk/index.html ------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany voice : +49-7031-16-3516 \|/ fax : +49-7031-16-3328 o(O O)o voice,BBS & fax : +49-7031-276113 (private) \ / ------------------ Email: Koplien@de.IBM.com ------ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: piers@ilink.de (Piers Uso Walter) Subject: Re: ParaSheet/Quantrix Sender: news@charly.mediahaus.de (News System) Organization: Mediahaus Stroebel in Duesseldorf (Germany) Message-ID: <EFFG6J.16w@charly.mediahaus.de> References: <33FBD248.41C6@de.ibm.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 16:51:55 GMT Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> writes > Is there any other advantage of ParaSheet over Quantrix except the > macro language?? > The main "advantage" seems to be that it follows a traditional spreadsheet model a la Excel / 1-2-3 instead of the multi-dimensional approach of Improv / Quantrix. This, of course, is seen by us Improv / Quantrix users as ParaSheet's main disadvantage. Piers -- -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- "I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =- Piers Uso Walter, ilink GmbH, <piers@ilink.de> -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.mail.sendmail Subject: Compiling sendmail 8.8.7 with Openstep 4.2 Date: 24 Aug 1997 21:29:14 GMT Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <5tq93a$4a$1@radjah.navigator.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! As sendmail 8.8.7 does not come along with a makefile for Openstep 4.2, I copied the Nextstep 3.3 makefile to 'Makefile.NeXT.4.x' and started compiling. I had to add -D__BIT_TYPES_DEFINED__ for db.h, which otherwise causes a double definition of 'int8_t' etc. Then everything seems to go fine (-DNEWDB -DNETINFO -DNeXT) until linking: cc -arch i486 -o sendmail alias.o arpadate.o clock.o collect.o conf.o convtime.o daemon.o deliver.o domain.o envelope.o err.o headers.o macro.o main.o map.o mci.o mime.o parseaddr.o queue.o readcf.o recipient.o safefile.o savemail.o srvrsmtp.o stab.o stats.o sysexits.o trace.o udb.o usersmtp.o util.o version.o -L/usr/local/lib -ldb /bin/ld: Undefined symbols: _sigfillset _sigprocmask _munmap *** Exit 1 Stop. What's missing here? Which library or #define do I have to add? -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/
From: eharley@pacbell.net (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apache /NextStep Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 21:05:27 -0800 Organization: Harley Consulting Message-ID: <eharley-2408972105270001@ppp-207-214-149-129.snrf01.pacbell.net> References: <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> <1TGU4n2ej9ra@cc.usu.edu> In article <1TGU4n2ej9ra@cc.usu.edu>, edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > In <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Kai Cherry wrote: > > Has anyone compiled a recent verion of this? > > > > If so, please point me to it for m68k. > > > > (I'm one of those unfortunate folks w/ no compiler...) But you are one of the fortunate who has a Unix based machine, therefore GCC will work spledidly on it. So will Make,Diff,Perl and a slew of other cool gnu style software packages. -- 'Dial 888,' Rick said as the set warmed. 'The desire to watch TV,no matter what's on it' -'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?', Phillip Dick
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: Rhapsody on Apple PC Card? Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 20:55:55 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <34010246.32B@earthlink.net> References: <iwkoh6um94f.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> I'm not sure this is possible. As far as I know the only way to get it to run on a Mac right now is with Virtual PC. Let me tell you....It's slooooooow!!! If there is a way to get Openstep running on a Mac with decent performance I would greatly appreciate the info as well! STEVE K. Christopher Rath wrote: > > A few weeks ago, someone posted here (comp.sys.next.*) telling how > they had gotten Prelude to Rhapsody up and running on their Apple PC > Card. I've searched through AltaVista and HotBot and can't find any > such posting. Would someone mind re-posting the message? > > Thanks, > Christopher > === Christopher Rath === crath@nortel.ca === (613) 765-3141 === > Northern Telecom Ltd. | > Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless > Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns > FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint and making TIFF transparent? Date: 25 Aug 1997 06:15:27 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5tr7tv$5rd$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5t3de1$is$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Cc: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org In <5t3de1$is$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > Someone has said that WetPaint can make part of a TIFF file transparent. > > Has anyone done this? I've got the app but can't seem to make it change part > of a .dir.tiff to transparent. > > Thanks > > What works for me the fastest is choosing the 'dout' painting mode in the tool inspector. This means destination-out, i.e. no matter what color you are using, you erase the image, making it transparent. A very useful trick is to use the spray tool with 'dout' mode. That way you can control how much you are erasing. I use it for erasing stuff around an object that I want with transparent surroundings. Helps to create smooth transition between the transparent and non-transparent ... Enough said. Good luck. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where TIFFany? Date: 25 Aug 1997 06:42:13 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5tr9g5$5rd$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hallo, would anyone know where to find TIFFanyII for NS 3.3/Intel? I am having hard time finding a retailer (USA). Thanks. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Many Q: Database servers on NS and EOF 1.1 Date: 25 Aug 1997 06:38:12 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5tr98k$5rd$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hallo all. I am spending too much time on this, so I would really appreciate your help: I need a database server to cooperate with WebObjects, both running on NS 3.3 with EOF 1.1 1. I own DataPhile and VariData apps. Can these be convinced to talk to WebObjects? 2. I installed msql 1.0.7 and MiniSQL (EOF&EOModeler compatible) and Msql (DBModeler) adaptors. MiniSQL allows me to create a new model and read db structure from msql. Even building a simple app works for reading data from msql databases. But I cannot get it to write anything. Msql adaptor doesn't work at all. Did anyone have a better luck with the msql adaptors, no matter if EOF or not? 3. msql 1.0.7 seems to be refusing connections after a while, even if I don't abuse it at all. Did you experience a similar problem? I used the NS-patched package from ftp.peak.org. 4. Did anyone succeed a compiling MiniSql 2.0.1? It seems to need 'mmap' libraries which are not being found. Is NS 3.3 capable of handing mmap-based programs? 5. What would you recommend as a solution? Again, I would like to run a database server on NS 3.3 (Intel) and connect it to WebObjects (EOF). Thank you very much. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PDF Distiller? (eXtraPDF?) Date: 25 Aug 1997 06:47:06 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5tr9pa$5rd$4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hallo, I recently visited GS Corporation's site at www.gscorp.com. And now there is no trace of this company at all. On www.stepwise.com there is still an offer for their eXtraPDF - a pdf distiller. I was suprised that there was one for NS, so I rushed to find out details, and boom. Are they out of business? Are there any PDF distillers for NS? What about some plain unix version (maybe based on GhostScript - like utilities). We are a university, so GNU software would be fine. Thanks a lot. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Many Q: Database servers on NS and EOF 1.1 Date: 25 Aug 1997 06:57:51 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5tradf$5rd$5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5tr98k$5rd$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Cc: blazek@stt.msu.edu In <5tr98k$5rd$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > > 1. I own DataPhile and VariData apps. Can these be convinced to talk to > WebObjects? > I forgot to ask one thing here. VarioData seems capable of talking to an SQL server rather than to its own flat file. It would be perfect if I could somehow make it talk to mSQL which I installed. That way I'd have a nice design tool (VarioBuilder) and reporting tool (VarioData) and still could use mSQL with its adaptor for web based access. The problem is that the only choices in VarioBuilder seem to be Oracle and Sybase servers. I tried many things, but no success. Would you have a hint? I am sure that asking LightHouse is useles after they released the free licenses ... Thanks. Rudy. P.S.: I would hate to put WinNT on our Intel box just to have Access and ODBC, but it might be the easiest solution at the very end ... Please tell me that I am wrong and that WebObjects+DB server on NS is just a piece of cake ... Gee, am I looking forward to Rhapsody with some new bells or whistles or ODBC or so ... -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: iboehme@abm08.abm.de (Ivo Boehme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gdb won't 'view' Date: 25 Aug 1997 08:34:17 GMT Organization: Nacamar Data Communications Message-ID: <5trg29$786$1@news.nacamar.de> References: <5tk64t$dsf$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Cc: tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk In <5tk64t$dsf$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Thomas Harte wrote: > gdb won't fire its graphical end when I type 'view' having fired > it in a terminal. i start ProjectBuilder beforehand and Edit.app > is in developer mode, but nothing happens to Edit.app > (a new menu button is supposed to appear). i haven't used > PB but have tried various things to get some sort of debugging > inof but no joy. > Are you working in a network? Inspect the files .gdbinit and PB.gdbinit to make sure that no former view [hostname] command already connected gdb to another host. Edit must show the gdb menu entry. Greetings, Ivo
From: marcel@system.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PDF Distiller? (eXtraPDF?) Date: 25 Aug 1997 09:46:13 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5trk95$447$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5tr9pa$5rd$4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In article <5tr9pa$5rd$4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) writes: [Asks about eXTRAPDF] That's actually my distiller, and I am still working on a newer, better, faster version, though I've been unable to put much if any work into it lately due to higher priority tasks. I could contact you (and all the others that have asked: thanks for the interest!) once I have something done. Regards, Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger) Subject: Re: How to get Openstep4.2 for Mach Academic? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <EEz1Gw.MGA@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> Sender: news@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: stevep@rsinc.com Organization: none References: <33F36E3B.21EB@rsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 20:12:30 GMT In <33F36E3B.21EB@rsinc.com> Steve Penton wrote: > Does anyone know how to OpenStep 4.2 for Mach (Acadamic) ? > Is it still even available? I've bought it from an ISV three weeks ago. Greetings Olaf -- Olaf Foellinger homepage: http://www1.stuttgart.netsurf.de/~ergo/ NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
From: wayne@helix.nih.gov (Wayne Rasband) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: multi-d image formats : not TIFF? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,sci.image.processing,comp.graphics.misc,comp.graphics.algorithms Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 09:27:33 -0400 Organization: NIH Message-ID: <wayne-250897092733@rr03.nimh.nih.gov> References: <5teh1q$ro1$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In article <5teh1q$ro1$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> wrote: > I work with multi-D greyscale images (256 x 256 x 28 x 4) and have lots of > software > and viewers on my SPARC. I don't mind re-writing a lot of the software > for my PPro running NeXTSTEP, but I cannot find a suitable image format > to handle and view the images. > > TIFF only seems to handle 8-bit greyscale images. Mine are unsigned shorts > (16 bits per pixel), signed/unsigned ints (32 bits per pixel), floats (32 > bits) > and doubles (real/imag 64 bits per pixel). > > ******Are there other (free!) image viewing apps out there? Are there any > image > processing packages with NeXTSTEP-compatible viewers as per many of > the X-based variants such as Vista for UNIX? ******** My Image/J program at "http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/" supports 8, 16, 24, and 32-bits per pixel, both raw and tiff. Image/J (the "J" is for Java) should run on any machine that support Java. --wayne
From: powell@aoml.noaa.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica 3.0 Next/Intel X window plotting problems Date: 25 Aug 1997 13:59:19 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <5ts33n$3ml@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> Under MMA 2.2, I was able to open a motif xterm window, run MMA from the command line, and do a post script plot that is presented in another X window. Under a network this is nice since someone could run a math client on a machine and display graphics on a remote machine. That way I can still use my machine for other things while our mathematician runs MMA command line and displays plots on his alpha/NT box, and we dont need to have an additional licence. We recently "upgraded" to MMA 3.0 at work and this capability no longer seems to exist. We downloaded a newer version of the psrender executable but this didnt fix the problem. We are not getting satisfactory responses from tech support: Downgrading is not a satisfactory solution!! I do not want to downgrade back to an earlier version to get a feature that the current version should still have. Has anyone been able to find a way around this problem? For info purposes I'm running MMA 3.0 (single licence) on a Pentium Pro 150 running NS 3.3 -------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Mark D. Powell powell@aoml.noaa.gov Atmospheric Scientist, AMS Certified Consulting Meteorologist (Member, NOAA '96 Olympics Marine Forecast Team) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where TIFFany? Date: 25 Aug 1997 15:04:28 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5ts6ts$a3s@shelob.afs.com> References: <5tr9g5$5rd$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudolf B. Blazek writes > would anyone know where to find TIFFanyII for NS 3.3/Intel? I am having > hard time finding a retailer (USA). Like all NEXTSTEP products, there are no retailers you can buy from. But if you contact Stan Jirman <stanj@cs.stanford.edu>, I'm sure he would be delighted to sell you a cpy directly. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "We're in the land of the blind, Visionary Ophthalmologist | selling working eyeballs, and they Anderson Financial Systems | balk at the choice of color." -- Tony greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | Lovell, on Mac user reactions to NeXT
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apache /NextStep Date: 25 Aug 1997 15:34:03 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5ts8lb$qr$2@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> <1TGU4n2ej9ra@cc.usu.edu> <eharley-2408972105270001@ppp-207-214-149-129.snrf01.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <eharley-2408972105270001@ppp-207-214-149-129.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric Harley wrote: > In article <1TGU4n2ej9ra@cc.usu.edu>, edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > > > > Has anyone compiled a recent verion of this? > > > > > > If so, please point me to it for m68k. > > > > > > (I'm one of those unfortunate folks w/ no compiler...) > > But you are one of the fortunate who has a Unix based machine, therefore > GCC will work spledidly on it. So will Make,Diff,Perl and a slew of other > cool gnu style software packages. Can you use gcc without the developer stuff? You need the header files, etc, don't you? Or does gcc provide enough of its own to be some use? Thanks TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PDF Distiller? (eXtraPDF?) Date: 25 Aug 1997 18:24:56 GMT Message-ID: <19970825182400.OAA22670@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5tr9pa$5rd$4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> There's one under development. Look at http://www.this.net/~frank/franksprojects.html for details. Bummer to hear about GS Corp having dissappeared again. Anyone know if anyone can still sell Altsys Virtuoso? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WetPaint capabilities/limitations Date: 25 Aug 1997 18:29:06 GMT Message-ID: <19970825182900.OAA22939@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com I've been playing with this, but it's not working well for me. I've been trying to load multi-megabyte images, and the program fails. I've got 32MB RAM and ~80MB swap space on my Mono '040 Cube. I'm still running NS 3.1--could this be part of the difficulty? Would TIFFany do a better job at this? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PDF Distiller? (eXtraPDF?) Date: 25 Aug 1997 19:48:50 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5tsnj2$65a@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <5tr9pa$5rd$4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In article <5tr9pa$5rd$4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) writes: [...] > Are there any PDF distillers for NS? What about some plain unix version > (maybe based on GhostScript - like utilities). We are a university, so GNU > software would be fine. There's DigiScript from OneVision, which might be a bit oversized for you. But maybe your university has a big budget :-). DigiScript is a real killer DTP application (distilling PDF as a side effect). Ask info@onevision.de for more details and/or a demo license. David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: eharley@pacbell.net (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Word Processor for OpenStep? Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:11:39 -0800 Organization: Harley Consulting Message-ID: <eharley-2508971911390001@ppp-207-214-149-125.snrf01.pacbell.net> Does anybody know of a good Word Processor I can get for Mach on intel? I tried www.lighthouse.com and I couldn't find a word about OpenStep programs. Nadda, nothing, all this java crap, but nothing about WriteUp. All help is appreciated -- 'Dial 888,' Rick said as the set warmed. 'The desire to watch TV,no matter what's on it' -'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?', Phillip Dick
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processor for OpenStep? Date: 26 Aug 1997 03:09:40 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5tthdk$c9l$1@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <eharley-2508971911390001@ppp-207-214-149-125.snrf01.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: eharley@pacbell.net In <eharley-2508971911390001@ppp-207-214-149-125.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric Harley wrote: > Does anybody know of a good Word Processor I can get for Mach on intel? > I tried www.lighthouse.com and I couldn't find a word about OpenStep > programs. Nadda, nothing, all this java crap, but nothing about WriteUp. Sidenote: OpenStep/Solaris is all but officially dead. LightHouse has nothing to do with WriteUp, they had OpenWrite, which you can find at ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/LightHouse/OpenWrite/ but it is a dead product (unless Lighthouse suddenly decides to revive for Rhapsody, which I doubt). AFS maintains WriteUp ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/editors/WriteUp/ checkout the README ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/editors/WriteUp/WriteUp.README TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apache /NextStep Date: 25 Aug 1997 18:20:07 GMT Organization: University of =?ISO-8859-1?Q?W=FCrzburg,?= Germany Message-ID: <5tsicn$ih@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> <1TGU4n2ej9ra@cc.usu.edu> <eharley-2408972105270001@ppp-207-214-149-129.snrf01.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: eharley@pacbell.net In <eharley-2408972105270001@ppp-207-214-149-129.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric Harley wrote: > In article <1TGU4n2ej9ra@cc.usu.edu>, edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > > > In <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Kai Cherry wrote: > > > Has anyone compiled a recent verion of this? > > > > > > If so, please point me to it for m68k. > > > > > > (I'm one of those unfortunate folks w/ no compiler...) > > But you are one of the fortunate who has a Unix based machine, therefore > GCC will work spledidly on it. So will Make,Diff,Perl and a slew of other > cool gnu style software packages. Hardly: No compiler means no developer release means no header files. And what good is gcc without the headers? -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wordperfect to Openwritre Date: 24 Aug 1997 13:51:58 GMT Organization: Peter's Private Newsserver Message-ID: <5tpe9u$4rg@unity.westfalen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Friends, just two questions is wordperfect still a shipping product? and Conversion in OpenWrite looks really ugly and no images are converted even i“ve had any converters installed. Is there any remedy? thank you very much for help Peter -- peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) Peter Kopatzki Am Bredberg 21 D-49143 Schledehausen "The only purpose of life is Bliss" -Go and create it! NeXTmail, MIME and SUN Solaris welcome URL Firma:http://www.globalsalesnetwork.com URL Privat:http://www.globalsalesnetwork.com/Private.html Phone:+49(0)5402 98050 Public Key on request
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: PDF Distiller? (eXtraPDF?) Message-ID: <EFIKCI.5LB@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <19970825182400.OAA22670@ladder01.news.aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:14:42 GMT In article <19970825182400.OAA22670@ladder01.news.aol.com> willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) writes: > There's one under development. Look at > http://www.this.net/~frank/franksprojects.html for details. > > Bummer to hear about GS Corp having dissappeared again. Anyone know if > anyone can still sell Altsys Virtuoso? > GS was still alive at the apple developer conference. But they changed thier focus to WEB Based solutions. -- ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: PDF Distiller? (eXtraPDF?) Message-ID: <EFIK9y.5KI@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5tr9pa$5rd$4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:13:10 GMT In article <5tr9pa$5rd$4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) writes: > Hallo, > I recently visited GS Corporation's site at www.gscorp.com. And now there > is no trace of this company at all. > > On www.stepwise.com there is still an offer for their eXtraPDF - a pdf > distiller. I was suprised that there was one for NS, so I rushed to find out > details, and boom. Are they out of business? > > Are there any PDF distillers for NS? What about some plain unix version > (maybe based on GhostScript - like utilities). We are a university, so GNU > software would be fine. > Our products DigiScript and DigiServer both offer as one of their tools a PDF destiller. -- ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
From: dunham@cs.tulane.edu (Andrea Dunham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PERL for Black 2.x System Date: 26 Aug 1997 08:45:48 GMT Organization: Elec Engr & Comp Sci Dept, Tulane Univ, New Orleans, LA Message-ID: <5tu53s$o0o$1@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu> Hi All, I'm searching for a version of PERL for a Black 2.x system. Can you help me with this? Thanks, * AndREa * (dunham@eecs.tulane.edu) ages > relied on a document well to accomplish fonts, style, paragraphs, etc... > The UI was the weakest part of the Pages.app because of their choice of > using a document well and the UI that went with that decision. They > aren't fun if you have to work with them. I disagree. I was so amazed by the ease-of-use and coolness of such wells, that I recommended a significant purchase of Pages at our site. Once I got used to it, I couldn't believe how I got by without Pages. Unfortunately, the product dropped off the planet shortly after our purchase, but I still haven't regretted getting it. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drag Wells for Documents... Date: 26 Aug 1997 13:21:36 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5tul90$4q2@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5tukqe$4pp@crcnis3.unl.edu> In article <5tukqe$4pp@crcnis3.unl.edu> lcharbon@ameritas.com (Larry Charbonneau) writes: Oops, sorry for the mis-Identification on the previous post by the notorious Larry Charbonneau. I posted for a friend yesterday, and forgot to reset it back to me. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wordperfect to Openwritre Date: 26 Aug 1997 15:13:19 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5turqf$f1a@shelob.afs.com> References: <5tpe9u$4rg@unity.westfalen.de> Peter Kopatzki writes > is wordperfect still a shipping product? Not for almost four years. > Conversion in OpenWrite looks really ugly and no images are converted > even i've had any converters installed. Is there any remedy? Buy WriteUp? 8^) <http://www.netaxs.com/~afs> -- Gregory H. Anderson | "We're in the land of the blind, Visionary Ophthalmologist | selling working eyeballs, and they Anderson Financial Systems | balk at the choice of color." -- Tony greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | Lovell, on Mac user reactions to NeXT
From: Samuel Goldberger <smg@orb.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help installing Openstep Enterprise 4.2 for NT Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:15:10 -0700 Organization: Spherical Solutions Message-ID: <3402F2FE.17300A60@orb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been trying to install Openstep Enterprise for NT (v. 4.2). Everytime I try, I get errors of various kinds, but with one common factor--I cannot create the Program Manager group that I specify during the install process. Moreover, depending upon whether I'm trying to install user or developer versions, certain applications fail to build as well. What is the proper installation procedure? TIA. Sam -- Samuel Goldberger Spherical Solutions 47 Myrtle Avenue, Mill Valley, CA 94941 smg@orb.com--http://www.orb.com 415-383-2919--phone * 415-381-9556--fax
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wordperfect to Openwritre Date: 26 Aug 1997 15:11:52 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5turno$mhs$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5tpe9u$4rg@unity.westfalen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: peter@unity.westfalen.de In <5tpe9u$4rg@unity.westfalen.de> Peter Kopatzki wrote: > is wordperfect still a shipping product? Why yes, but not for NS/OS. There was someone out in California who had found a bunch of them at a thrift store. I'm not sure if they are all gone yet. > Conversion in OpenWrite looks really ugly and no images are converted > even iĀve had any converters installed. Is there any remedy? I've never done it. Do you have WordPerfect and need a newer version? AFAIK there is no newer version than 1.0.1 from 10 June 1993 (the date is important). And that version had ADB support and was for NeXT & Intel. If you have a newer version, let me know. If you have an older version, let me know. The last official word was that any licensed user could upgrade by finding someone with a later version. TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex Subject: Latex2html and Nextstep help Date: 26 Aug 1997 19:52:46 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <5tvc6e$5g6$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, I would love to get some help getting latex2html running on 3.3-intel. Most of my problems arise from graphics issues. NS does not have ghostscript which seems to be required by latex2html. As a result, install-test (in latex2html-97.1) fails. Can anyone help ? Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is a Pop client for NEXTSTEP? Date: 26 Aug 1997 20:31:50 GMT Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Message-ID: <5tvefm$7pk$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> I have been looking at the ftp sites (peak and peanuts) to no avail. Can someone point me to a pop client for my NeXT? I need to be able to read "bulletin boards" managed by Microsoft Exchange on an NT server, and they have finally upgraded to NT 4.0 which distributes pop. (Or should I say, they have upgraded to NT 4.0 which _finally_ delivers pop -- M$ sure is slow at following standards. Then again, I would be happier if the server had stuck to unix news format.) I don't want to download the files on the bulletin boards; I just want to read them. I have seen the pop server software for the NeXT. Is client software present with these? I don't know enough about it, and I haven't looked into them sufficiently to know. Thanks for any help. Cheers, Don Petcher
From: Bjarni Thor Juliusson <bjarnij@nyherji.is> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apache /NextStep Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 21:51:50 +0100 Organization: Nyherji hf. Message-ID: <340341E5.1653A7FE@nyherji.is> References: <33F9B5BE.43F9B03B@sakurakai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Kai Cherry <mrkai@sakurakai.com> Kai Cherry wrote: > Has anyone compiled a recent verion of this? > > If so, please point me to it for m68k. > > (I'm one of those unfortunate folks w/ no compiler...) > > Thanks... If you know how to ftp, then you can get mk68 ready at any NeXT ftp Try ftp.next.peak.org Bye Bjarni
From: Bjarni Thor Juliusson <bjarnij@nyherji.is> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to setup Server???? Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:08:39 +0100 Organization: Nyherji hf. Message-ID: <340345D7.FB9207@nyherji.is> References: <19970821002500.UAA15089@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Opardalis <opardalis@aol.com> Opardalis wrote: > I just bought a NeXTStation 68040 25MHZ running NS 3.0. Im trying to > setup a web,ftp and mail server. However, I am not having a very easy > > time. Anyone have any suggestions, help? It's not so hard to configure internet server, specially the NeXT platform. But it is different if you are setting up an DNS and sendmail entry. Lets say if you are setting up a WebObjects server. I think you should start to type DNS or BIND in any search engine near you. You can get a good readmefile for setting up DNS along with Gatekeeper dialup.App for NeXT at any active NeXT ftp. About sendmail you can get pre configured / compiled set and samples at many ftp sites and good internet accessproviders. The http and Web Objects is the easiest part. Chiao Bjarni PS. these are to many steps to swallow if you haven't done "make or cc" in a shell.
From: Bjarni Thor Juliusson <bjarnij@nyherji.is> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: SCSI CD-ROM Drivers Anywhere? Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:14:44 +0100 Organization: Nyherji hf. Message-ID: <34034743.559BBCF8@nyherji.is> References: <5ti60f$jm$1@hecate.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: sbhunter@osprey.smcm.edu sbhunter@osprey.smcm.edu wrote: > We have some NeXT cubes & slabs, as well as some SCSI CD-ROM drives. > We'd LOVE to get these guys talking, esp. with the latest versions of > things coming out on CD-ROM. Nothing fancy; we just want to mount a > CD & be able to read from it. I'm assuming that we need drivers to > make this happen, but don't know where to look for them -- in fact, > I'm not sure what else/instead-of-drivers we would need. > > Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > scott I don't know what you are saying darling.... Almost any SCSI CD is accepted for the SCSI I and or II port on all mk68's. Check the termination and caple.
From: staff <abiogen@abiogenesis.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTGo IGS client 2.22 (does it work?) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:14:17 -0700 Organization: CalWeb Internet Services, Inc. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.970826151011.6120D-100000@web2.calweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: ident=abiogen Has anyone got this to work on the IGS Go site? I can get it to play user-computer games just fine on NeXTStation running 3.2, but can't get anything to show up on the board when attempting to play on the IGS site against a person. Most of the commmands work, like Match and Stats, etc. The Pass button seems to work and to show up on the other person's board, but no tiles are displayed and there azre messages like it's not my turn or the move is outside the board. I would appreciate some help/advice in getting it to function correctly because I'd really like to try playing a human player (the human/computer game is hardly worth playing as the computer plays very badly). Thanks! JP Are there interim versions that work between 1.0 and 2.22? 1.0 doesn't have the IGS interface. If so, where are they located?
From: "Ing. Mario Farias-Elinos" <mfarias@aldebaran.ci.ulsa.mx> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Driver for the 6MP printer Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:00:26 -0500 Organization: La Salle University Message-ID: <3403600A.24C84D0@aldebaran.ci.ulsa.mx> References: <01bca655$8057cd00$040e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laurent wrote: > Hello, > > How can I use my new Hewlett Packard 6MP (Postscript) printer ? > I did'nt see the correct driver in the list of device drivers. > > May I use the 4MP driver ? > Hi!!!!! Yes, you can use the HP 4MP driver for your HP 6MP, the only detail it's the printer not printer at same velocity. Regards ----------------------------------------+------------------------------------ Ing. Mario Farias Elinos. | e-mail: mfarias@ci.ulsa.mx Laboratorio del Centro de Investigacion | http://www.ulsa.mx/~mfarias/ Universidad La Salle, A.C. | Tel: (525)728-0522 Benjamin Franklin #47, Col. Condesa | (525)728-0500 ext. 5105 Mexico, D.F. 06140. Mexico. | Fax: (525)271-1544 ----------------------------------------+------------------------------------
From: Bjarni Thor Juliusson <bjarnij@nyherji.is> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quake on OpenStep? Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:10:47 +0100 Organization: Nyherji hf. Message-ID: <34035466.7DC5D35F@nyherji.is> References: <33f6d36f.8381715@news.demon.co.uk> <5t35lr$7kv$1@news.tamu.edu> <5t39qe$28t$2@gaea.omnigroup.com> <5t3ho7$ggt$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5t4fhc$9cq$1@news.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: Colin Allen <colin@snaefell.tamu.edu> Colin Allen wrote: > Timothy J. Luoma <nospam@luomat.peak.org> wrote: > >Well, now I get a longer message (below) and still can't seem to get > it to > >run. > > > >I get a message > > > >DoomII Error > >R_TextureNumForName: SKY3 not found > > Ditto here--this happens when I try to start a new game. The Demo > seems > to run along ok -- is doing so as I type. > -- > Colin Allen > http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/ Hi Colin I saw it on your homepage that the server called Snaefell is a NeXT box. I happen to see the Snęfell mountain out of my office. I live in Reykjavik and love the NeXT technology with a passion. Been the VAR since 1991, almost non profit mission. So the word Snaefell is actually Icelandic. Bye Bjarni http://www.fiton.is/box
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is a Pop client for NEXTSTEP? Date: 27 Aug 1997 00:07:03 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5tvr37$ggu$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5tvefm$7pk$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu In <5tvefm$7pk$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Donald N. Petcher wrote: > I have been looking at the ftp sites (peak and peanuts) to no avail. Can > someone point me to a pop client for my NeXT? I need to be able to read > "bulletin boards" managed by Microsoft Exchange on an NT server, and they > have finally upgraded to NT 4.0 which distributes pop. (Or should I say, > they have upgraded to NT 4.0 which _finally_ delivers pop -- M$ sure is slow > at following standards. Then again, I would be happier if the server had > stuck to unix news format.) I don't want to download the files on the > bulletin boards; I just want to read them. I've never heard of POP being used this way, for generic bulletin boards, rather than just personal email. Are you sure these are related? If POP is really what you want, look at PopOver, which has both client & server software included. ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/PopOver.v1.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/PopOver.v1.5.README TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is a Pop client for NEXTSTEP? Date: 27 Aug 1997 01:06:47 GMT Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5tvuj7$523$1@nexus.oic.de> References: <5tvr37$ggu$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <5tvr37$ggu$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > In <5tvefm$7pk$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Donald N. Petcher wrote: > > "bulletin boards" managed by Microsoft Exchange on an NT server, and they > > I've never heard of POP being used this way, for generic bulletin boards, > rather than just personal email. Are you sure these are related? > > If POP is really what you want, look at PopOver, which has both client & > server software included. > > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/PopOver.v1.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/PopOver.v1.5.README There is a better POP-Server called qpopper: ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/qpopper2.4b2.tar.Z It compiles without any problems under NEXTSTEP 3.3 (it works for me) and it supports bulletins: BULLETINS The bulletin feature gives system administrators a way to send important announcements to all POP users without having to do mass mailings. But I don't know if you mean this with "bulletin boards". Bye, Juergen
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for a Socks-based... Date: 27 Aug 1997 03:03:47 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Aug26222219@slave.doubleu.com> References: <5tkepv$ra6$1@news.dn.net> In-reply-to: rubin@ezy.net's message of 22 Aug 1997 16:29:51 GMT In article <5tkepv$ra6$1@news.dn.net> rubin@ezy.net (Alan Rubin) writes: I've recently created a little lan between my NeXT slab and my win95 pc. I'm using the win95 machine as the gateway to my internet connection (dial-up), but I require socks3- compatible clients on my NeXT for telnet, ftp, etc. Can anybody help? I'd also like to use a browser (omniweb?) on my NeXT side with this lan. can that be done? You don't mention what version of NeXTSTEP you're running. I had very little trouble compiling the socksified clients from the socks distribution under NeXTSTEP3.3. It's also pretty easy to compile ncftp with socks support. OmniWeb is a different story. I didn't have much luck using it's socks support, because it seemed to want to do DNS lookups on the non-Internet machine (ie, not on the gateway, which knows how to do such things). I just ran a proxy server on the gateway (which was a NeXT machine). If you can't find a decent proxy for the windows95 machine, you could consider socksifying one of the various Unix proxy servers out there, and running it on the NeXT. Then OmniWeb uses the NeXT as a proxy, and the proxy on the NeXT uses socks to get to the internet through the gateway. Annoying, but what can you do. To be honest, I would be happier with the _NeXT_ as the Internet connection, running socks, and the Windows machine using sockscap to automagically socksify everything. Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Douglas Hardman <dhardman@accessicg.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OS 4.2 Mouse problems... Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:05:20 -0400 Organization: Interactive Concepts Group Message-ID: <34030B25.64AC@accessicg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know why I cant get a mouse to work under OpenStep 4.2? I just installed it and I can see the mouse on screen, but it dosn't move. And last time I checked.....you needed a mouse. (Intel, P100, 40mb . mouse on com2) -- Douglas Hardman :|: Programming Director / MIS Interactive Concepts Group :|: http://www.accessicg.com dhardman@accessicg.com
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From: Kai Cherry <mrkai@sakurakai.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: OS4.2+Black Hardware Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 06:14:50 -0400 Organization: @Home Networks Message-ID: <3403FE19.BF89E777@sakurakai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why isn't Apple telling folks that this runs on NeXT hardware? Every piece of documentation that I've seen talks about hair-pulling Intel hardware installation woes, instead of telling folks to go get a NeXT and save some trouble. Any idea why this is? And yes, I happen to know that the "Intel" CD's that Apple gave out actually install on Black hardware too, if you have a 3.3 intaller disk (Do NOT ask me *how* I know this, 'cus I can't tell, but I've seen it with my own eyes.) Any thoughts on why Apple is making folks work way too hard?
From: planetary <kris@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: OS4.2+Black Hardware Date: 27 Aug 1997 01:00:35 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5u0jaj$hve$1@xmission.xmission.com> References: <3403FE19.BF89E777@sakurakai.com> Kai Cherry <mrkai@sakurakai.com> wrote: : Why isn't Apple telling folks that this runs on NeXT hardware? Every : piece of documentation that I've seen talks about hair-pulling Intel : hardware installation woes, instead of telling folks to go get a NeXT : and save some trouble. Why should Apple tell you to go out and purchase hardware that has been obsolete for years? "To use Prelude to Rhapsody, you can either use a cheap but fussy Intel machine you can purchase anywhere on the planet, or a Quadra 660av manufactured in 1993 that you can only purchase from people in news groups, or maybe from dirty old men at swap meets." : And yes, I happen to know that the "Intel" CD's that Apple gave out : actually install on Black hardware too, if you have a 3.3 intaller disk : (Do NOT ask me *how* I know this, 'cus I can't tell, but I've seen it : with my own eyes.) This is no big secret. Apple employees have posted this publicly. ............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you know so much about Usenet, then why are you still posting?
From: Babak Ashrafi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: printing vs display resolution question Date: 26 Aug 1997 20:22:33 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5tvdu9$mn7@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> This must be a familiar problem for folks who do image processing. Maybe the answer is easy for experts, but this novice has not been able to figure it out. An example illustrates my question: I have an 8x10 inch image which I can input at 300dpi. I would like to print it as an 8x10in image on my NeXTLaser at 300dpi. When I display the image on-screen it is huge, increased by a factor of 4.2 = 300/72. If I now try to print it, it looks like it will be 5 or 6 pages and takes for ever, clearly not 8x10, so I kill the print job. If I reduce it to 8x10 on-screen, and then print, it looks pretty poor, like printing at 72 dpi. So I have 8x10in 300dpi input and would like 8x10in 300dpi output. I'm foiled by the 72dpi screen in between. There must be a way to do this. I have tried open -p to no avail. I'm stuck. Any help greatly appreciated, Babak please correct reply-to hearder: ashrafi _at_ mit _dot_ edu
From: Marco van Dongen <MAA.vanDongen@student.unimaas.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech Subject: This message is a non-commercial request for help on my research Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:25:30 +0200 Organization: Rijksuniversiteit Limburg Distribution: inet Message-ID: <34041CBA.1372@student.unimaas.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message is a non-commercial request for help on my research ================================================================ My name is Marco van Dongen and i am accounting student at the University of Maastricht (UM) in the Netherlands. To graduate i have to write a thesis. My thesis deals with the Internet and therefore i use this medium to address as many people as possible. I am going to write my thesis about the commercial use of the Internet. My focus will be on planning and implementing activities. What problems do you come across. What are the positive and what are the negative aspects. The paper will NOT be a technical paper. The paper will deal with the question how to deal/manage a growing load of information. I am looking for people to give me suggestions for literature, articles. People that work for companies and have first hand experiences. Research already been done by people. Companies that are willing to participate in a little research by questionaire send on email. Or anything that could possibly be of any help to me. Please respond to me on email. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + MAA.vanDongen@Student.unimaas.nl + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks Marco van Dongen
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech Subject: cmsg cancel <34041CBA.1372@student.unimaas.nl> Control: cancel <34041CBA.1372@student.unimaas.nl> Date: 27 Aug 1997 12:47:36 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.34041CBA.1372@student.unimaas.nl> Sender: Marco van Dongen <MAA.vanDongen@student.unimaas.nl> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole) Subject: Re: Driver for the 6MP printer Message-ID: <EFKtvo.48v@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <01bca655$8057cd00$040e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> <3403600A.24C84D0@aldebaran.ci.ulsa.mx> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:35:48 GMT In article <3403600A.24C84D0@aldebaran.ci.ulsa.mx>, you wrote: >Laurent wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> How can I use my new Hewlett Packard 6MP (Postscript) printer ? >> I did'nt see the correct driver in the list of device drivers. >> >> May I use the 4MP driver ? >> I just installed a HP 6MP. I'm not sure why the ppd file is not on the HP web site, but you can install the printer software on any Windows machine and grab the ppd file from the windows/systems subdirectory. It works fine.
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is a Pop client for NEXTSTEP? Date: 27 Aug 1997 15:04:40 GMT Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Message-ID: <5u1fm8$rj4$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> References: <5tvr37$ggu$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5tvuj7$523$1@nexus.oic.de> In article <5tvuj7$523$1@nexus.oic.de>, Juergen Moellenhoff <jurgen@oic.de> wrote: > >In article <5tvr37$ggu$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam+next@luomat.peak.org >(Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > [snip]> >There is a better POP-Server called qpopper: > >ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/qpopper2.4b2.tar.Z > >It compiles without any problems under NEXTSTEP 3.3 (it works for me) and it >supports bulletins: > >BULLETINS > The bulletin feature gives system administrators a way to > send important announcements to all POP users without having > to do mass mailings. > >But I don't know if you mean this with "bulletin boards". > >Bye, > > Juergen In Microsoft Exchange, there are "mailboxes" other than your own, which have either limited (as for a class or committee) or public access. That's what I meant by "bulletin boards". Does POP only allow personal mail to be accessed? If so, I it may not work for what I need. Is there another solution?? In any case, I'll check out qpopper. Thanks. Cheers, Don
From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: KaiSu and OpenStep 4.x Date: 27 Aug 1997 18:05:56 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5u1qa4$1f8s@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Hi all! On attempting to use the KaiSu-Regular Chinese font for the first time in a while, possibly since upgrading from 3.3 to 4.1, I discovered that documents I had written with this font before would no longer display (or in some cases refused to load), instead spewing DPS errors across the console. Nor could I use PinyinEdit to create new Chinese documents. Is there an incompatibility between the font and the 4.x DPS server? Anyone know of a workaround or replacement for KaiSu-Regular? Regards, Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: Thomas McCarthy <tmccarth@usc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: KaiSu and OpenStep 4.x Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:01:11 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California Message-ID: <34047977.800@usc.edu> References: <5u1qa4$1f8s@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alex Levine wrote: > > Hi all! > > On attempting to use the KaiSu-Regular Chinese font for the first time in > a while, possibly since upgrading from 3.3 to 4.1, I discovered that > documents I had written with this font before would no longer display (or > in some cases refused to load), instead spewing DPS errors across the > console. Nor could I use PinyinEdit to create new Chinese documents. Is > there an incompatibility between the font and the 4.x DPS server? Anyone > know of a workaround or replacement for KaiSu-Regular? Just so you don't think it's only your problem, I have had the same problem with both 4.1 and 4.2. No KaiSu, no PinYinEdit. (In fact, PinYinEdit now sometimes produces upside down menus, and then crashes.) It used to work for me under 3.2 just fine. Tom ---------- Thomas McCarthy tom@sumoweb.com > Regards, > > Alex > > -- > Alexander Levine > Philosophy Department > Lehigh University > ATL2@lehigh.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ZapfDingbats with OpenStep From: noone@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Message-ID: <340481c9.0@cisun2000.unil.ch> Date: 27 Aug 97 19:36:41 GMT On my system running OPENSTEP 4.2/Intel I can't use Dingbats if I am running an OPENSTEP app (e.g. TextEdit or Draw). However it shows up fine if I use an old 3.3 app (e.g. Edit). Why!? Is there any way to fix this? Thanks, Sean Please remove nospam from my address to reply
From: "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: How to change a video driver from the boot II ? (suite) Date: 27 Aug 1997 19:47:32 GMT Message-ID: <01bcb321$d33b41e0$080e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> Hello, I'm using Openstep for Mach 4.1 on Intel platform (P200) I have a Diamond 3D 3000 video card. The problem : I changed the video driver : I'd try to use the 3D 2000 driver, but when the computer is booting the driver don't work, I see nothing on the screen. I would change another time my driver (and use the 3D 3000 driver) but I can't use the configuration panel. I have only access on the promt ("boot : "). 1) I have use the boot with the Default option (boot : config=Default) but it the same result.) 2) like in NEXTSTEP 3.3, I try : boot -default then I try : boot : "Active Drivers"="PS2Mouse BusMouse SerialMouse ParallelPort VGA" and (boot:=-s) But anything is the good option : the screen still black or the system reboot Did another boot option wich can run the computer with another driver ? Please, give me the good answer and become a god for me... Laurent BARNILS solfra@worldnet.fr
From: hidinger@nosc.mil (Ronald M. Hidinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: enhance mail quoting and OS 4.2 Date: 27 Aug 1997 20:31:35 GMT Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA 92147 Message-ID: <5u22r7$1i1@poisson.nosc.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just upgraded from 3.3 to 4.2, user and developer, and everything seems to be working except the quote service when replying to email. It reports loading in the console and the preference is set, but nothing happens. Any clues? Ron Hidinger hidinger@spawar.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger) Subject: Re: NeXTGo IGS client 2.22 (does it work?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <EFL9Et.60E@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> Sender: news@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: abiogen@abiogenesis.com Organization: none References: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.970826151011.6120D-100000@web2.calweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:11:16 GMT In <Pine.BSF.3.95q.970826151011.6120D-100000@web2.calweb.com> staff wrote: > > Has anyone got this to work on the IGS Go site? > > I can get it to play user-computer games just fine on NeXTStation running > 3.2, but can't get anything to show up on the board when attempting to > play on the IGS site against a person. Most of the commmands work, like > Match and Stats, etc. The Pass button seems to work and to show up on > the other person's board, but no tiles are displayed and there azre > messages like it's not my turn or the move is outside the board. > > I would appreciate some help/advice in getting it to function correctly > because I'd really like to try playing a human player (the human/computer > game is hardly worth playing as the computer plays very badly). > > Thanks! > > JP You may have a look at ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Games/network/NeXTGo.2.7.NIHS.bs.gnutar.gz which works well under 3.3 and might work as well under 3.2. Greetings Olaf -- Olaf Foellinger homepage: http://www1.stuttgart.netsurf.de/~ergo/ NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman -- remove .dev.null to reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep 4.x or NS 3.3 on Black Hardware Date: 27 Aug 1997 23:44:59 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EEx7nI.5xu@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <qR0k8bZ8wYZb@cc.usu.edu> chrish@cc.usu.edu (PUNCHOUT) wrote: > I've read some of the threads on this and some faqs, but honestly folks, > is OpenStep 4.x really that painful on black hardware? I'm running > 3.3 right now, and have not seen 4.x in action, but I"m curious as > to what sort of performance loss I will experience if I were to run > 4.x on a turbo color 040. Basically, everything in /NextApps, /NextAdmin, Workspace, and the user demos in /NextDeveloper/Demos run at 3.3 speeds (if not a little faster due to windowserver optimizations.) The developer tools, and those demos that are converted to OPENSTEP (BugNeXT, Draw, ProductFeedback) vary from bearable via sluggish to slow as molasses... -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.dev.null.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.dev.null.nl> (work) __/__/__/ <<SPAMBLOCK: remove .dev.null to reply>> __/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman -- remove .dev.null to reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for a Socks-based... Date: 27 Aug 1997 23:45:21 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EFDnMG.FI0@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <5tkepv$ra6$1@news.dn.net> rubin@ezy.net (Alan Rubin) wrote: > I've recently created a little lan between my NeXT slab and my win95 pc. > I'm using the win95 machine as the gateway to my internet connection > (dial-up), but I require socks3- compatible clients on my NeXT for telnet, > ftp, etc. Can anybody help? I'd also like to use a browser (omniweb?) on > my NeXT side with this lan. can that be done? There's a socks bundle available for use with OmniWeb. (I don't know how well it works, since I don't need it.) It's supposed to give you at least http and ftp (via OmniWeb) access. You can find it at: ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/next/Network/www/OmniWeb2Bundles/socks4.NIHS.b.tar.gz and probably somewhere near ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/ as well. --Tom.
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: enhance mail quoting and OS 4.2 Date: 27 Aug 1997 23:40:28 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5u2dtc$eb4$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5u22r7$1i1@poisson.nosc.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: hidinger@nosc.mil In <5u22r7$1i1@poisson.nosc.mil> Ronald M. Hidinger wrote: > Just upgraded from 3.3 to 4.2, user and developer, and everything seems > to be working except the quote service when replying to email. It reports > loading in the console and the preference is set, but nothing happens. Are you using the latest version? ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.0b6.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.0b6.README TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: Bruce Toomire <toomire@math.vt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Softwindows for NeXT Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 01:08:14 -0400 Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <340507BE.367C@math.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello.. I was wondering if Insignia every made a version of Softwindows for m68k machines? I have the demo for OpenStep/Intel put was curious to where one might find the demo for blackware? The Insignia Web page makes no mention of the black, not suprising! Any ideas?? thanks. bruce toomire toomire@math.vt.edu
From: eharley@pacbell.net (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is a Pop client for NEXTSTEP? Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:11:54 -0800 Organization: Harley Consulting Message-ID: <eharley-2708972111540001@ppp-207-214-149-186.snrf01.pacbell.net> References: <5tvr37$ggu$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5tvuj7$523$1@nexus.oic.de> <5u1fm8$rj4$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> > In Microsoft Exchange, there are "mailboxes" other than your own, which have > either limited (as for a class or committee) or public access. That's what I > meant by "bulletin boards". Does POP only allow personal mail to be > accessed? If so, I it may not work for what I need. Is there another > solution?? > > In any case, I'll check out qpopper. Thanks. I think what you want is something called IMAP. IMAP is another mail protocol, that unlike POP, keeps the messages on the server instead of downloading them to the client's machine. IMAP also has this cool feature of bulletin boards/news groups built into the standard that allow for permissions on mail groups. The Project Cyrus people at: http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/cyrus/cyrus.html Their IMAP server kicks ass and compiles fine under OpenStep 4.2. Take it for a spin and see what you think. -- Eric Harley --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Medicine will cure death and government will repeal taxes before Steve will fail." -Guy Kawasaki (Fall 1991)
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Softwindows for NeXT Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:20:52 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EFMFIt.D0A@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <340507BE.367C@math.vt.edu> In article <340507BE.367C@math.vt.edu> Bruce Toomire <toomire@math.vt.edu> writes: > Hello.. > I was wondering if Insignia every made a version of Softwindows for > m68k machines? I have the demo for OpenStep/Intel put was curious > to where one might find the demo for blackware? The Insignia > Web page makes no mention of the black, not suprising! Any > ideas?? SoftPC3 (with Windows) runs on Black hardware. It emulates a 286 at real 286 speeds! It's probably livable if you have a Turbo or better. Insignia will probably deny all knowledge - when I left they were making it as hard as possible to buy SoftPC4.1 Intel. Black versions also cost about twice as much as Intel versions, as they were priced at "workstation" prices rather than "PC" prices. $an
From: apptalk@sprynet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: News & Tips Computers/Internet Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:57:23 Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <5tlg3d$4rh$891@juliana.sprynet.com> Please don't hit reply, send all inquiries to apptalk@sprynet.com DAILY NEWS & TIPS. http://www.activenetwork.com Are you interested in receiving our monthly free newsletter on the latest Computer technologies and the internet. Please send an email requesting to be added to our database, or check our web site for the latest news. If you have signed up already, please disregard this request. Download our catalog from our Internet Website http://www.activenetwork.com HARDWARE TRENDS BREAKING SPEED LIMITS Early benchmark tests on a prototype 300-MHz system are promising This fall will mark the arrival of a class of machines based on Intel's 300-MHz Pentium II processors, and early benchmark tests on some of the prototypes show healthy-- if not astounding-- performance gains over previous-generation Pentium systems. At NEC's invitation, PC Magazine had the chance to run tests on the company's new 300-MHz PowerMate Professional, due to ship in September. Although the configuration we tested was preliminary, the machine posted some impressive numbers. On the ZD High-End Winstone 97 test, the PowerMate earned a score of 34.8. This test runs a set of applications that heavily exercise the CPU and graphics subsystem, but purely CPU-intensive tests were really where the machine did well. On our CPUMark32 test, it posted a score of 735; on CPUMark 16, the system earned a speedy score of 556. To put these results in perspective, note that our recent test of the 266-MHz Dell Dimension XPS H266, resulted in a CPUMark32 score of 719, as opposed to the NEC system's 735, and the Dimension was the fastest by a wide margin in a group of systems based on Intel's 266-MHz Pentium II processor. The Dimension did, however, post a slightly higher score on High-End Winstone 97 than the PowerMate--36 rather than 34.8-- thanks to its advanced graphics subsystem. Most of the other 266-MHz system in our roundup posted speed scores well behind the PowerMates. Again, the configuration is still preliminary. More Adrenaline This Fall In the fall, Intel plans to ship its 440LX chip set, which supports Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) technology and will work with a new dedicated bus for graphics. The speeds posted by 300-MHz machines-- especially on graphics tasks--are likely to benefit greatly from these technologies, as bus bottlenecks currently undermine high-speed processors. Although tests show 300-MHz system to be marginally faster than 266-MHz Pentium units, the new chip set should provide a healthy shot of adrenaline. Many customers will want to time their purchases of 300-MHz machines to correspond with the chip set's arrival, but NEC's $4000 PowerMate is likely to ship in advance of the chip set. Also note that Intel has been speeding up price drops on its high-end chips in recent years, and 300-MHz systems should be substantially cheaper than $4000 by 1998. They promise to be an important step for Intel as it faces increased competition in high-end chips from AMD and Cyrix. ***************** MEMORY************************** HIGHEST QUALITY. LIFETIME WARRANTY Call for any type ofMemory not listed.Memory for Laptops and Desktops, All AppleMAC or any POWERBOOKS. EDO/ or fast page Simms 72pin Memory 2k, 60ns 8MB $35 16MB $54 32MB $99 168pin Dimms, 60ns 16MB DIMM $69 32MB DIMM $110 64MB DIMM $220 *************** COMPUTERS *************** Intel Pentium 133Mhz, 16/2GB 18xCD, 33.6 fax/mod $799 Intel Pentium 200MMX 16/2GB 20xCD, 17" Color Monitor, 33.6 Fax/Modem, 4yr onsite G.E. Warranty $1699/$58mo. Sager Laptop P233MMx, 11xCD, 16/2GB, 4Yr onsite Warranty $2995 Toshiba Laptop 445CDT, P133MMx, 16/1GBCD 12.1 TFT,FaxMod $2895 Apple 9500/200Mhz 32/2GB CD, $2395 Apple 9600/300Mhz 64/4GBCD $4225 Apple Performa6400/200Mhz, 15" Monitor,16/2GB, CD, Fax/Mod $1299 1- WE CAN E-MAIL YOU A COMPLETE CATALOG. 2- WHOLESALE PRICES ON PENTIUM LAPTOPS & DESKTOP. APPLE POWER MACS, MEMORY AND ACCESSORIES. 3- REPAIR ANY TYPE OF CPU, MONITOR, DRIVE,PRINTER FREE PICK UP & DELIVER FOR LOCALS, BEST RATES. 4- WE SHIP WORLDWIDE, OVER 11 YEARS EXPERIENCE SINCE 1985 CALL FOR OTHER CONFIGURATIONS- We carry Full line of Toshiba, Texas instruments, IBM, Radius, Daystar, Umax,Seagate, Quantum Samsung, or many other computer Printers,Scanners, Monitors, Modems Software, and peripherals.We accept Visa, MasterCard, Discover,Diners,Cash, Cashier's Checks, Money Orders, COD. Prices reflect 3% cash discount. Active Network Solutions Inc. , 1611 Crenshaw Blvd #224, Torrance CA 9501 U.S.A Tel. (310)764-4357 Please send all inquiries to: apptalk@usa.net Internet Website http://www.ourlocation.com/ans IF YOU LIKE TO BE REMOVED PLEASE SEND AN EMAIL AND WRITE (REMOVE) IN SUBJECT AREA. 10
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5tlg3d$4rh$891@juliana.sprynet.com> Control: cancel <5tlg3d$4rh$891@juliana.sprynet.com> Date: 28 Aug 1997 14:25:15 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5tlg3d$4rh$891@juliana.sprynet.com> Sender: apptalk@sprynet.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: hidinger@spawar.navy.mil (Ronald M. Hidinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: enhance mail quoting and OS 4.2 Date: 28 Aug 1997 15:12:39 GMT Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA 92147 Message-ID: <5u44h7$rom@poisson.nosc.mil> References: <5u22r7$1i1@poisson.nosc.mil> <5u2dtc$eb4$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <5u2dtc$eb4$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > In <5u22r7$1i1@poisson.nosc.mil> Ronald M. Hidinger wrote: > > Just upgraded from 3.3 to 4.2, user and developer, and everything seems > > to be working except the quote service when replying to email. It reports > > loading in the console and the preference is set, but nothing happens. > > Are you using the latest version? > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.0b6.NIHS.bs.tar.gz > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.0b6.README Thanks, that did the trick. But that brought up another question. Is there some straightforward way to check the version of a bundle? Ron Hidinger hidinger@spawar.navy.mil
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: enhance mail quoting and OS 4.2 Date: 28 Aug 1997 16:43:55 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5u49sb$pss$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5u22r7$1i1@poisson.nosc.mil> <5u2dtc$eb4$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5u44h7$rom@poisson.nosc.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: hidinger@spawar.navy.mil In <5u44h7$rom@poisson.nosc.mil> Ronald M. Hidinger wrote: > Thanks, that did the trick. But that brought up another question. Is > there some straightforward way to check the version of a bundle? Depends on how much of a UNIXGeek you are: You could do this: % strings /LocalLibrary/Mail/EnhanceMail.bundle/EnhanceMail |fgrep EMrelease EMrelease2_0b6 Ok, a little too geeky for most... how about checking your Outgoing.mbox for the 'X-Nextstep-Mailer:' line Eg mine looks like this: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.1mach (Enhance 2.0b6) (You might have to do 'Show Headers' to see it) If you don't use the Outgoing.mbox (are there such folks? I've got almost 9k messages in mine....) then just send yourself a message and checkout that header. FWIW: when a new version of EM comes out, I usually put it at /LocalLibrary/Mail/EnhanceMail.bundle.2.0.b6 and then link it to /LocalLibrary/Mail/EnhanceMail.bundle This way I can always tell what version, but more importantly if I overwrite EM with a newer version I have the older one around, just in case I want to go back for some reason. Ok, I know, a 10 minute answer for a 1 minute question.... TjL ps -- the version info should be in the online help, but I couldn't find it anywhere... I'll drop Tom a note and suggest it. -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Date: 28 Aug 1997 17:29:13 GMT Message-ID: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> Hello next-web afficionados, I don't know how I can expand the files with the extension b.tar.gz with Openstep for Mach 4.1. It is the same kind of file that Zip or Lha or Arj Windows files ? I need a program to expand this I suppose, but where can I find it (If you can send me...) ? Thank's a lot. Laurent BARNILS solfra@worldnet.fr
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Date: 28 Aug 1997 18:10:02 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5u4etq$qo$2@cronkite.cygnus.com> References: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: solfra@worldnet.fr In <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> "Laurent" wrote: > Hello next-web afficionados, > > > I don't know how I can expand the files with the extension b.tar.gz with > Openstep for Mach 4.1. > > It is the same kind of file that Zip or Lha or Arj Windows files ? > I need a program to expand this I suppose, but where can I find it (If you > can send me...) ? > > > Thank's a lot. > > Laurent BARNILS > solfra@worldnet.fr > try "/usr/bin/gunzip" or "/usr/bin/gzip -d" to decompress the files (get rid of the .gz extension). You have to do this from the command line. the .tar part indicates it's a tar (tape archive) file (/bin/tar -xf file.tar, in the location you want it expanded). The GUI automatically has the ability to do do this. If you're going to try to do it from the command line, I'd recommend reading both man pages ("man tar" and "man gzip") to be sure you're using the right arguments, etc. The various archives also have "Openner.app", which is a GUI front end for things like gzip, gnutar, etc. It's a useful tool. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Thought for the day: According to the supreme court, proof of innocence isn't enough to avoid execution if you've exhausted your appeals.
From: deniseh@best.com (Denise Howard) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Date: 28 Aug 1997 21:07:26 GMT Message-ID: <5u4pae$lft$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> References: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> <5u4etq$qo$2@cronkite.cygnus.com> John Rudd (jrudd@cygnus.com) wrote: : The various archives also have "Openner.app", which is a GUI front end for : things like gzip, gnutar, etc. It's a useful tool. Actually that's spelled "Opener.app", and yes, it's very useful. Once you have installed it on your machine, you'll never again have to recall the correct command-line options for a given utility and operation. You'll be able to simply double-click on the archive file, and Opener does the rest. You can also use it to create archive files. Best of all, Opener is FREEWARE. :-) Denise (Opener's mom) -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Softwindows for NeXT Date: 28 Aug 1997 14:16:03 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5u4173$5c2@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <340507BE.367C@math.vt.edu> In article <340507BE.367C@math.vt.edu> Bruce Toomire <toomire@math.vt.edu> writes: > I was wondering if Insignia every made a version of Softwindows for > m68k machines? I have the demo for OpenStep/Intel but was curious > to where one might find the demo for blackware? The Insignia > Web page makes no mention of the black, not suprising! Any > ideas?? You can find a SoftPC 3.0 demo version for m68k (including Windows) on the NEXTSTEP 3.1 User CDROM in the directory "/NEXTSTEP_3.1/NextCD/Packages/". David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Request for compilation: gs 5.03 Date: 29 Aug 1997 11:31:37 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <5u6bup$12f$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Could some kind soul please compile and package ghostscript 5.03 for 3.3 systems? It features long-awaited PDF 1.2 support and numerous bug fixes. I'd do it myself, but only have 4.2, and that would leave out many people who could need it as well. :( Besides, it's no small task, with proper config, various libs and everything.. Holger -- holger"at"object-factory.com (NeXTMail, MIME) 'Where I come from it's important to develop stuff that doesn't suck.' -- David Young <dwy"at"ace.net>
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman -- remove .dev.null to reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: enhance mail quoting and OS 4.2 Date: 29 Aug 1997 16:42:13 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EFn3us.BoH@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <5u22r7$1i1@poisson.nosc.mil> <5u2dtc$eb4$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5u44h7$rom@poisson.nosc.mil> <5u49sb$pss$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > In <5u44h7$rom@poisson.nosc.mil> Ronald M. Hidinger wrote: > > > Thanks, that did the trick. But that brought up another question. Is > > there some straightforward way to check the version of a bundle? > > Depends on how much of a UNIXGeek you are: [geekish solutions snipped] ...or you could check the upper-right corner of Mail's Info panel. (Insidious, I know. Blame Carl:-) > ps -- the version info should be in the online help, but I couldn't find it > anywhere... I'll drop Tom a note and suggest it. Practical problem with putting it in the online help is that I would probably forget to update it once it's release time... --Tom.
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From: beckers@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Becki Kain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SafetyNet and gcc2.7.2.2 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 29 Aug 1997 19:39:44 GMT Organization: University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Message-ID: <5u78i0$5ls$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> Keywords: safetynet gcc 2.7.2.2 Hello! Two questions maybe someone can help with. I have Nextstep 3.2black and have been running SafetyNet personal 2.5r1 for a couple of years, with no problems. I had to power off my NeXT for about a week, but when I powered it back on, the tape the drive that was labeled and being used as 1-3 now thought it was 1-4 and the backup failed. Is there a way to relabel the tape to 1-3 without it blowing away the data that was on there? How do you read a tape's SafetyNet label anyway? Second question. I'm planning to update the gcc that came with 3.2 to the newest version, but I was reading the man page that came with the old cc on the NeXT and it said "GNU CC on the NeXT Computer has been substantially modified and extended by NeXT Computer, Inc. to support the use of Objective-C and Mach." I'm assuming these massive changes got rolled back into the general release, but is there anything special I should do, besides build objective c and c? thanks beckers (please mail me directly at beckers@umich.edu and reply to the group)
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ssh for NEXTSTEP3.2 Date: 29 Aug 1997 20:28:43 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5u7bdr$io4$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Has anyone compiled ssh (secure shell replacement for the r utilities) for NEXTSTEP and compiled a patched distribution of ssh or instructions on what to change to get it to make properly? -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is a Pop client for NEXTSTEP? Date: 29 Aug 1997 22:52:40 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <5u7jro$8p6$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <5tvefm$7pk$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu In <5tvefm$7pk$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Donald N. Petcher wrote: > I have been looking at the ftp sites (peak and peanuts) to no avail. Can > someone point me to a pop client for my NeXT? SNIP > I have seen the pop server software for the NeXT. Is client software present > with these? I don't know enough about it, and I haven't looked into them > sufficiently to know. Thanks for any help. Hi Donald ! Look for PopOver. It should be somewheree in the network section of peanuts. Most definitely, because i got it from there, but can't remember exactly where.. hang on... oh, it's in /next/Mail/Apps/PopOver Try it, it's really neat..multiple hosts etc. ! Bye Martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: 0schrier_j@spcvxb.spc.edu Subject: Re: Word Processor for OpenStep? Organization: St. Peter's College, US Message-ID: <1997Aug29.211114.1@spcvxb.spc.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 01:11:14 GMT In <eharley-2508971911390001@ppp-207-214-149-125.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric Harley wrote: > Does anybody know of a good Word Processor I can get for Mach on intel? > I tried www.lighthouse.com and I couldn't find a word about OpenStep > programs. Nadda, nothing, all this java crap, but nothing about WriteUp. LaTeX. It RULEZ! :-) Okay, so maybe it's not a word-processor, per-say, more of a typesetting program, but you can use it for to write reports and stuff. --Josh
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From: beauvois@usa.net (Christopher Beauvois) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DPSPostEvent() Date: 30 Aug 1997 18:24:37 GMT Organization: University of Tennessee Message-ID: <beauvois-3008971424360001@tchm06a6.rmt.utk.edu> Hello :) I am trying to reposition the cursor at a specific place by posting a new event with the new location's coordinates. So far this has not worked, and it is most likely due to some oversight on my part on how to effectively post this event. My question is this: Through DPSPostEvent I should be able to reposition the cursor, correct ? As this is perhaps a more unethical approach to event handling and user control, is there some other way to do this ? Any help is greatly appreciated -- Thanks ! Chris
From: Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Zyxel U1496E and NS3.3 Date: 30 Aug 1997 14:08:59 -0700 Organization: Darkside Message-ID: <hhbu2fpedw.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I've been trying out JollysZyxelDriver, and have been getting fairly poor results...I'm curious as to what other users are using...is NFax worth it? .mycroft
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