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From: gregor@crosslink.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ZyXEL FAX Modem won't receive FAXes
Date: 1 Jul 1997 03:40:20 GMT
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In <5p8nu2$30l@news.acns.nwu.edu> daj@nwu.edu wrote:
> I have NXFax.app (a license'd copy) and a ZyXEL Omni 2864 Fax Modem.
> What does it take to get the modem to receive faxes?
Dave: Try this. It fixed my problem and sounds like the same thing I ran
into:
-login as root
-launch Terminal app
-type the following command:
dwrite <your modem name> AuxATCommand "ATS18=0
note: use the name of your modem as shown in print manager app. the last
line is 18 equals 0. My eyes are getting tired and I cant tell whether it
is` showing up as an equals symbol.
-press enter
in order for the dwrite to take effect, you must restart the fax driver from
a terminal window by issuing the following command:
/usr/lib/NextPrinter/exec_faxes
-press enter
hope this works for you!
Best regards
Gregor
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From: Daniel Burckhardt <daniel.burckhardt@usa.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mSQL 2.0
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 09:46:42 +0200
Organization: Inferno
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Stefan Ried wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Anbody got mSQL2.0 beta 7.1 compiled for NeXTStep or OpenStep/mach ?
>
> There is no mmap included in NeXT's mach. Are there ways around it ?
The following code comes from the Msql FAQ list - I haven't tried it yet
myself lately
/*
* @(#)map.c 1.0 of 20 December 1996
*
* Copyright (c) 1996 by Fabien Roy.
* Written by Fabien Roy and Robert Ehrlich.
* Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.fr
Robert.Ehrlich@inria.fr
* Not derived from licensed software.
*
* Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for
any
* purpose on any computer system, and to redistribute it
freely,
* subject to the following restrictions:
*
* 1. The author is not responsible for the consequences of
use of
* this software, no matter how awful, even if they
arise
* from defects in it.
*
* 2. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented,
either
* by explicit claim or by omission.
*
* 3. Altered versions must be plainly marked as such, and
must not
* be misrepresented as being the original software.
*
*/
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/mman.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <syscall.h>
caddr_t
mmap(caddr_t addr, size_t len, int prot, int flags, int fd, off_t
off)
{
int pagelessone = getpagesize() -1;
int size;
caddr_t pageaddress;
/* round to next page size */
size = (len + pagelessone) & ~pagelessone;
/* allocate aligned pages */
if (!(pageaddress = (caddr_t) valloc(size)))
return (caddr_t) -1;
/* map it */
if (syscall(SYS_mmap, pageaddress, size, prot,
flags, fd, off)){
free(pageaddress);
return (caddr_t) -1;
}
return pageaddress;
}
void
munmap(caddr_t addr, size_t len)
{
syscall(SYS_munmap,addr,len);
free(addr);
}
>
> What about a EOF-Adaptor. Is there anybody working on that already ?
There is code for an msql EOF Adaptor, but since it was written for 3.3
and I'm running 4.1 I didn't get it to link correctly (though it
compiled ok).
You can find the code in the usual archives, if not send me a mail.
--
daniel burckhardt, inferno solutions, zurich switzerland
fone +41 1 272 86 07 daniel.burckhardt@usa.net
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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 06:01:43 -0600
From: pablos@denalisites.com
Subject: [WTB]Quantrix
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If anyone has an old copy of the famed Quantrix spreadsheet for Openstep
out there, I would love to get my hands on that. I can't believe that at
a time like this Lighthouse (Sun) isn't willing to sell those apps.
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From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: NXImage....
Date: 1 Jul 1997 10:32:52 GMT
Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University
Message-ID: <5pamck$3b6$2@news.cc.umr.edu>
Hi,
I have a problem.
I am working on a image processing application on NextStep 3.2.
I am using NXImage class with NXBitmapImageRep to specify the
bitmap for the image. For this I provide the image data as
a unsigned char array to the "initData: pixelsWide: pixelsHigh:....
procedure of NXBitmapImageRep. Now I make some changes to the
image data (by changing pixel value in the array)!! How do I
make it visible on the window. I mean when I say display
should the changes not show up on the window???
Please help...
If I need to take some other path to composite the NXImage
please let me know...
Thanx in advance ...
Sanjeev
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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 11:34:03 -0600
From: doc <doc@zipatoni.com>
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Hi,
Does anyone have a copy of the NS 3.3 bootfloppy? I am looking for both
Motorola and Intel. I have tried to download the disk images from the
NeXT web site but I can't get RAWRITE to work in either DOS or Windows.
If anyone has a bootfloppy that they could e-mail me or if someone could
talk me through creating the bootfloppy from the floppyimage I would
appreciate it.
thanks very much.
doc@zipatoni.com
From: ?digman?@neosoft.com (Larry Campbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: What I learned from apple today...
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 15:18:43 -0500
Organization: NeoSoft, Inc.
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Here you go,guys.
Laugh?
I thought I'd die.
-Larry
In article <5pajcd$eac@news.asu.edu>, leereyno@imap2.asu.edu wrote:
> Today I saw a presentation on Apple's new OS linup including Rhapsody. I
> was impressed with what they are trying to do, Apple has finally seemed
> to get smart people at the top who know what is going on. If they do
> what they are planning to do and do it right, they have a good chance of
> both saving Apple and competing successfully with MS in operating
> systems. I'm not sure that it is going to happen though. Rhapsody seems
> a lot like a mac flavor of OS/2. It will run all the legacy apps and
> also new apps which take full advantage of the new operating system.
> This is what OS/2 was for the PC. This is a good thing when you look
> just at the mac platform, but when you bring the pc into the picture
> things get more complicated and uncertain. Rhapsody will also have a
> version for the pc. Two versions in fact. The first will be a stand
> alone OS which will likely be an updated and improved version of
> OpenStep. The second version is designed to run on top of Windows 95 or
> NT. Why is this important? It's important because of what they are
> planning to do. Their plans are for developers to be able to develop for
> both platforms at the same time because the source code will be 100
> percent portable from one to the other. This is hard to do, but it can
> be done. It is what MS tried to do with NT and what you already have
> under unix at least partially. OpenSTEP is a phenomenal operating
> system. It's not perfect, but it has an excellent foundation, unlike
> windows 95 or NT. If a house has a good foundation you can fix most
> anything else, the same goes for operating systems. Apple is appearently
> putting their GUI on top of openstep which is a smart thing to do. Many
> people like the mac because they are easier for non-technical people to
> use. I have always disliked the macs lack of a robust operating system.
> By combining the mac's ease of use with the power of openstep, Apple has
> created the operating system they should have had five years ago. The
> other important thing is developers. Apple is working hard to win the
> support of developers. This is what will make or break the operating
> system overall. If a great deal of development takes place, Rhapsody
> will be a success. I'm of the opinion that this development will take
> place. The mac applicatons will bleed over to the pc side because
> development for one platform will mean easy development for the other.
> If enough great applications can be developed for Rhapsody, pc users will
> start to use it as well. If the operating system is good enough and
> becomes popular, MS's monopoly can be broken. If this is destined to
> happen, MS will help make it happen by not supporting the operating
> system. The leading applications will be written by other companies such
> as Claris and MS will have a to play catch up if they ever do develop for
> it. If it is successful they will eventually, but not at first which
> will work against them in the long run. There is a lot more that I could
> say, but this is enough for now.
>
> Lee Reynolds
> leereyno@imap2.asu.edu
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From: dietzsch@wise.wiwi.tu-dresden.de (Andreas Dietzsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: EOF for Openstep on Solaris available?
Date: 2 Jul 1997 08:02:31 GMT
Organization: TU Dresden (URZ)
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Does anyone know if the EOF is available for Openstep 1.0 on Solaris?
If yes, where can I get it?
thank you
Andreas Dietzsch
dietzsch@wise.wiwi.tu-dresden.de
From: tph1001@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.P Harte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: teTeX installation
Date: 2 Jul 1997 12:20:46 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <5pdh2u$6nb@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Thanks to all who responded to my "NeXTTeX Installation" request.
I have installed teTeX (which is remarkably well documented and easy to
use with NeXT compared to the TeX Live CD!) and TeXView Release3.0
kpathsearch0.25. Two quick questions:
i) Any documents which I display must be at a screen resolution of
120 or more in order to be able to view symbols in a LaTeX document
which has
\usepackage{amsfonts}
\usepackage{amssymb}
TeXView doesn't display \mathbb characters on the screen otherwise.
The problem is that this makes the main window quite large, and even
then the text scarcely appears even close to the PostScript output.
The text looks very thin and is indistinguishable from any of the text
that is typeset in courier.
How do I load the necessary screen fonts for a decent screen output? I
thought that this was done automatically as PostScript fonts are
included with the teTeX distribution?
ii) TeXView seems to be defaulting to some old manuals referring to
NeXTTeX. Where can I obtain new documentation for this TeXView release?
Thanks,
--
thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university.
+44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; deep philosophical thingy:
how come $\{rm knuth\}\cap\{rm html\}=\{\varnothing\}$?
Subject: Re: CVS and .nib files
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In-Reply-To: <5p0sdu$nea@iserver.stem.com>
From: vincent@sente.ch (Vincent Kohler)
Message-ID: <33ba574c.0@epflnews.epfl.ch>
Date: 2 Jul 97 13:27:40 GMT
On 06/27/97, dbriggs@stem.com wrote:
>
>Hello, Vladimir -- & others who use CVS on NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP
>
>rtr@user.transit.ru (transit shell) wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>Could anybody suggest me how to wrap/unwrap .nib files to store them into
cvs
>>repository?
>>
>>Thank you in advance.
>>
>>Vladimir
>
[..]
>A SOLUTION:
>Bob Vadnais wrote a Palette for InterfaceBuilder, called CVSPalette.
[..]
Another solution is to configure correctly the cvswrappers file within
$CVSROOT/ in order to have a real wrapped nib. This option works well,
too. Unfortunately it won't work in client/server because cvswrappers
are not supported under this mode.
I had some bad experience with CVSPalette which didn't copied the CVS subdir
in a reliable way, at least with my configuration.
Cvswrappers are very useful for diagram, quantrix and others wrapped files.
Here is an extract of my cvswrappers:
*.nib -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s \
%s' -m 'COPY'
*.rtfd -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s \
%s'
*.draw -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s \
%s'
*.quantrix -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap \
%s %s' -m 'COPY'
Regards
Vincent
--
----------------------------------------
Vincent Kohler vincent@sente.ch (NextMail welcome)
Sen:te
Parc Scientifique - EPFL - Switzerland
From: "Jean-Claude" <murdocks@mbox.vol.it>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: H E L P ME !!!! I NEED HELP
Date: 22 Jun 1997 12:53:12 GMT
Organization: Telecom Italia - Video On Line
Message-ID: <01bc7f0b$c9e754c0$00010101@murdock>
Hi my helper friend...
i've got another problem and i'm here for ask you some help...
I've downloaded the NET SURFER from a ftp site... but....
HOW CAN I LET NEXTSTEP TO SEE IT AS A PACKAGE ???!?!?
the was a blablabla_tar.gz... i've decompressed it under winNT UNZIP and
it have made the directory structure of the package.. but NEXTSTEP don't
see it as a package..
i've tried to use UNIX command but NEXTSTEP says that cannot exctract files
beacuse file name too long (???)..
when you've send to me the matrox pkg. the file name was long !!
but i don't remember how i have used it..
I've this problem ever when i download a file from internet under WINNT...
can you take me a WEB BROWSER for NEXTSTEP and explain me to install
correctly the modem, the needed protocol and the software,, to let me
navigate the web... and don't disturb you no more ? THANK YOU very much.
and i'm very happy to talk with you about Nextstep because i like very much
that OS but i'm very beginner to that OS.. eheh.... thank you a lots..
I hope that you can help me..!!
Jean-Claude
murdocks@mbox.vol.it
From: "Jean-Claude" <murdocks@mbox.vol.it>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE !
Date: 22 Jun 1997 12:53:39 GMT
Organization: Telecom Italia - Video On Line
Message-ID: <01bc7f0b$dbc4d910$00010101@murdock>
Hi my helper friend...
i've got another problem and i'm here for ask you some help...
I've downloaded the NET SURFER from a ftp site... but....
HOW CAN I LET NEXTSTEP TO SEE IT AS A PACKAGE ???!?!?
the was a blablabla_tar.gz... i've decompressed it under winNT UNZIP and
it have made the directory structure of the package.. but NEXTSTEP don't
see it as a package..
i've tried to use UNIX command but NEXTSTEP says that cannot exctract files
beacuse file name too long (???)..
when you've send to me the matrox pkg. the file name was long !!
but i don't remember how i have used it..
I've this problem ever when i download a file from internet under WINNT...
can you take me a WEB BROWSER for NEXTSTEP and explain me to install
correctly the modem, the needed protocol and the software,, to let me
navigate the web... and don't disturb you no more ? THANK YOU very much.
and i'm very happy to talk with you about Nextstep because i like very much
that OS but i'm very beginner to that OS.. eheh.... thank you a lots..
I hope that you can help me..!!
Jean-Claude
murdocks@mbox.vol.it
From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Public window server on OS4.1/NT
Date: 2 Jul 1997 14:38:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <5pdp4u$190i@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
Hi all,
One of our boxes here runs NT 4.0 (SP 3), and I installed WebObjects on
it. WebObjects comes with a stripped-down version of OpenStep, and with
that package installed, I am able to run applications compiled for OS/NT.
It would be nice to remotely run applications on that machine from another
box running OS/Mach 4.1, using the -NXHost option. Now, I have heard that
this works. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out how to
enable the public window server option on the NT machine. Can it be done
with this version of OpenStep?
Cheers!
Alex
--
Alexander Levine
Philosophy Department
Lehigh University
ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: mrflora@aol.com (MRFlora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: QUIX Computerware web site or email
Date: 2 Jul 1997 18:04:20 GMT
Message-ID: <19970702180400.OAA20099@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Hello,
Anybody know the URL or email addr. for QUIX Computerware AG? Does the
company still exist? I am trying to find upgrades for their Daydream h/w
and s/w.
Thanks,
Michael Flora
mrflora@aol.com
From: Ken W <hazmat@shore.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT x86 and System Commander?
Date: 2 Jul 1997 18:51:24 GMT
Organization: Shore.Net; a service of Eco Software, Inc. (info@shore.net)
Message-ID: <5pe7vc$qal@fridge-nf0.shore.net>
I am curious about NeXT for x86 and how it works with System
Commander. NeXT requires a boot disk, so would you boot right to
it or boot to it via SC? And how much disk space is a full NeXT
x86 install?
Thanks.
-Ken
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From: szallies@gehirnbrei.energotec.de (Constantin Szallies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CVS and .nib files
Date: 1 Jul 1997 15:04:08 GMT
Organization: Technet GmbH
Message-ID: <5pb698$osk$1@oxygen.technet.net>
References: <5p0g4q$dlh@fido.transit.ru> <5p0sdu$nea@iserver.stem.com>
dbriggs@stem.com wrote:
>
>Hello, Vladimir -- & others who use CVS on NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP
>
>rtr@user.transit.ru (transit shell) wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>Could anybody suggest me how to wrap/unwrap .nib files to store them into
cvs
>>repository?
>>
>>Thank you in advance.
>>
>>Vladimir
>
>THE PROBLEM:
>GNU's CVS (Concurrent Version System) is useful for archiving source
>code and documentation. It has trouble with InterfaceBuilder, though.
>InterfaceBuilder destroys the CVS information inside the *.nib files
>(directories) when it modifies a *.nib. (Actually, it fails to
>copy the CVS stuff from the old version of the *.nib into the new.)
>Consequently, one can archive a *.lproj directory with CVS, but if
>one checks out a version, then modifies its *.nib files, and then
>tries to archive the new version, -- frustration!
>
SOLUTION 2:
To solve the nib file problem, checkout the file cwswrappers in the
repository CVSROOT and add the following lines:
*.nib -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s %s'
*.rtfd -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s %s'
*.draw -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s %s'
*.tiff -m 'COPY'
*.eps -m 'COPY'
*.snd -m 'COPY'
Then commit.
The binaries wrap and unwrap come with the cvs distribution and go into the
CVSROOT directory. Works well. We are using local cvs + NFS imported
repository.
Greetings
--
# Constantin Szallies, Energotec GmbH
# szallies@energotec.de
# 49211-9144018
From: "Greg Shaw" <gshaw@zeta.org.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE !
Date: 3 Jul 1997 00:03:19 GMT
Organization: Decisionware
Message-ID: <01bc8744$68812030$180b1acb@decisionware>
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Jean-Claude,
A little more information in the subject line would probably get you more
informed responses.
The problem with your download is that some applications on NT can't handle
more than one '.' in the filename so they change all but one of them to
'_'. You will see that your filename is blabla_tar.gz. Change this to
blabla.tar.gz from within NeXT and then decompress it. The tar file your
are left with can be untarred and I would expect you will end up with a
pkg file.
All suffixes are important under unix rather than just one as under NT
(DOS).
Hope this helps.
Cheers, Greg Shaw.
Jean-Claude <murdocks@mbox.vol.it> wrote in article
<01bc7f0b$dbc4d910$00010101@murdock>...
> Hi my helper friend...
> i've got another problem and i'm here for ask you some help...
> I've downloaded the NET SURFER from a ftp site... but....
> HOW CAN I LET NEXTSTEP TO SEE IT AS A PACKAGE ???!?!?
> the was a blablabla_tar.gz... i've decompressed it under winNT UNZIP and
> it have made the directory structure of the package.. but NEXTSTEP don't
> see it as a package..
>
> i've tried to use UNIX command but NEXTSTEP says that cannot exctract
files
> beacuse file name too long (???)..
>
<snip>
>
> Jean-Claude
>
> murdocks@mbox.vol.it
>
>
>
>
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From: rvose@ix.netcom.com (R. Vose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS 3.3 Intel Install Question
Date: 3 Jul 1997 02:00:53 GMT
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I'm a long time (licensed) black hardware user and was just noticing that my
NS 3.3 CD says "For Intel Processors and NeXT Computers" on it.
Since I have an extra hard drive for my Intel box, I thought I would try
installing 3.3. The installation diskette which came with the CD explicitly
states that it's for NeXT hardware, so I assume that I need an Intel
installation disk. I checked NeXTAnswers and there was an Intel boot floppy
image, which I did download. However, after I unpacked it to a diskette, it
really didn't do anything for me.
So, my question is this: can I use the NS 3.3 CD (which I used to install my
black system) to install the OS on an Intel system? If so -- I assume I need
an Intel installation diskette... which I don't know where to find. My Intel
system cannot read the 3.3 CD... so maybe I'm hoping for too much here...
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks in advance...
--
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rvose@ix.netcom.com
Denver, CO
From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Rob Blessin? Blackhole, Inc? Where are you?
Date: 3 Jul 1997 03:33:31 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <5pf6ib$qrv@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>
I e-mailed Rob Blessin (Blackhole, Inc.) to purchase OpenStep 4.2 but
my message bounced back. I can try purchase through the bookstore,
but that usually takes forever, at least in our college. Any other
suggestions?
Thanks.
Vicki Bragin
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From: lparkyn@prosoft.com (Lyle Parkyn)
Subject: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris
Message-ID: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com>
Sender: lparkyn@prosoft.com (Lyle Parkyn)
Organization: ProSoft Solutions Inc. (RDS Site)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:44:29 GMT
I am contemplateing installing OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris 2.5.1 on a Sparc 5.
I've downloaded the free user environment from Sun's web site. I assume
1.0 the latest release, I couldn't find anything newer.
Does anyone have any comments on their experience?
In particular I am wondering about performance, reliability, stability,
interaction with CDE, installation gotchas and any other comments you have
to offer.
***
*** Please reply to: parkyn@mdd.comm.mot.com
***
-thanks
--
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From: gvandyk@icon.co.za
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CVS and .nib files
Date: 3 Jul 1997 05:28:40 GMT
Organization: E.S. Systems cc (Financial Systems Development)
Message-ID: <5pfda8$3hg$1@hermes.is.co.za>
References: <5p0g4q$dlh@fido.transit.ru> <5p0sdu$nea@iserver.stem.com> <33ba574c.0@epflnews.epfl.ch>
In-Reply-To: <33ba574c.0@epflnews.epfl.ch>
On 07/02/97, Vincent Kohler wrote:
>Here is an extract of my cvswrappers:
>
>*.nib -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s \
>%s' -m 'COPY'
I am doing the same and I agree it works very well. I also had a lot
of problems with CVSPalette, sometimes it wrote the CVS files and
sometimes it didn't, totally iconsistent, so I started using wrappers.
The only problem I had with wrappers is that I couldn't find the
"wrap" and "unwrap" Utilities and I wrote my own. Was this the right
thing to do or did I miss something somewhere
--
Regards,
Gerrit van Dyk
email: gvandyk@icon.co.za (NeXTMail welcome)
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From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Rob Blessin? Blackhole, Inc? Where are you?
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:35:40 -0400
Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College
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<bold>vbragin@ix.netcom.com,UseNet writes:</bold>
>I e-mailed Rob Blessin (Blackhole, Inc.) to purchase OpenStep 4.2 but =
>my message bounced back. I can try purchase through the bookstore, =
>but that usually takes forever, at least in our college. Any other =
>suggestions?
Try:
bhi1@ix.netcom.com
I just communicated with him via this address yesterday.
-- =
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From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there?
Date: 3 Jul 1997 14:54:53 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
References: <5omell$3ra@news.asu.edu> <UnfjrQ200iWn091LE0@andrew.cmu.edu> <5oo2ai$sdj$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote:
> Speaking of OmniWeb.. it seems thatit might be replacing Cyberdog!=) I
> guess OmniGroup guys have been waiting long enuff for a pay off..
> Good job guys!
>
> http://rumors.netexpress.net/
>
> OpenStep's OmniWeb web browser exposed
>
> Our good friends at Webintosh have put together a little
> feature on NeXT OpenStep's
> proprietary web browser, OmniWeb, and its many features.
> According to Apple sources, a
> port of this browser is expected to eventually replace
> CyberDog as Apple's own web
> browser technology. It's definitely a step in the right
> direction; however, Rhapsody
> developers haven't set a definite date for this sub-project,
> and it's likely that users will have to
> wait until mid-1998 to see OmniWeb for Rhapsody.
>
Too bad my personal web pages look like crap under OmniWeb (but good under
Netscape) and that OmniWeb is pretty slow...
--
Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor
Date: 3 Jul 1997 16:40:03 GMT
Message-ID: <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
References: <33AAC1D0.9DBE9FDD@novell.com>
I'd be interested in learning more about WebPages--is it commercial?
shareware? freeware?
Is there a demo/working copy on an FTP site?
William
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there?
Date: 3 Jul 1997 17:24:39 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <5pgn8n$kgj@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In article <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com writes:
> godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote:
> Too bad my personal web pages look like crap under OmniWeb (but good
> under Netscape)
Too bad your personal web pages use bad html then. (-; (I didn't really
see anything that looked like "crap" with OmniwWeb at the address in your
sig -- http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck )
Really, in my experience, pages that look different in NS (and MSIE) than
OmniWeb usually mean you've used poor html somewhere.
> and that OmniWeb is pretty slow...
It's a bit slower, but that's attributable to the fact that it renders
tables slowly. Other than that, it's not bad, speedwise.
I'm always amazed at how much more productive I am surfing the web when
using OmniWeb at work versus my using NS or MSIE at home, where I miss my
favorite features: drag-n-drop images and the Processes Inspector.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK)
Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: mmalcolm crawford <Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: looking for Quicken, etc
Date: 3 Jul 1997 10:34:49 GMT
Organization: P&L Systems
Message-ID: <5pfv89$ooj$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <5o06ff$amt$1@brokaw.wa.com>
In-Reply-To: <5o06ff$amt$1@brokaw.wa.com>
On 06/15/97, max@maxgraphic.com wrote:
>In an effort to migrate my personal tasks from Mac to NeXTstation, I'm
trying
>to find Quicken or a Quicken-compatible app for NS 3.3 black. Did Intuit
ever
>make a NeXT version? Any free/shareware solutions?
>
You could try Stone Design's CheckSum
http://www.stone.com/
> Also, are there any ClarisWorks-level simple database apps out there?
>
Sorry, I don't know exactly what you're after here; you could try Stone's
DataPhile, or OpenBase?
> I'm also looking for a simple spreadsheet. I have SC, but would prefer
> something with a GUI.
>
Well, not exactly "simple"... our spreadsheet, Mesa, has most of the core
functionality of Excel:
http://www.plsys.co.uk/plsys/
You might also be pleased to know that we're porting Mesa to OpenStep; it's
going well, and features some enhancements over the current version, and it
has alreadys been demonstrated running on Rhapsody. Anyone buying Mesa now
will get some sort of credit towards the Rhapsody version (we haven't quite
worked out the details yet).
Best wishes,
mmalc.
Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk
Tel: +44 1494 432422 P & L Systems
Fax: +44 1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
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From: kevin parks <kpp@dartmouth.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: *.wn -> .rtf ?
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 23:59:01 +0000
Organization: dartmouth college - music dept.
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Hi!
I may be having to shut down my old beloved NeXTs for good
soon and I need to make some backups of all my WriteNow
texts and have been converting them to rtf on the NeXT
end of things and porting them
to them MAC and that has worked without a hitch so far.
However I have like 5 years worth of files and this could
take forever. Is there any way to convert all my WriteNow
files to rtf in batch. instead of opening each individual
file and doing a save as.
like a:
% mkrtf -R *.wn
Claris's open menu has an option for WriteNow NeXT, but
it simply doesn't work. Probably because any NeXT wn file
is really a folder in wrapper.
any help would be appreciated. I look in my file viewer at all
my articles and correspondence, etc with all those .wn extensions
and just sigh.
cheers,
kevin parks
From: kevin parks <kpp@dartmouth.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: *.wn -> .rtf ?
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 00:05:16 +0000
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Hi!
I may be having to shut down my old beloved NeXTs for good
soon and I need to make some backups of all my WriteNow
texts and have been converting them to rtf on the NeXT
end of things and porting them
to them MAC and that has worked without a hitch so far.
However I have like 5 years worth of files and this could
take forever. Is there any way to convert all my WriteNow
files to rtf in batch. instead of opening each individual
file and doing a save as.
like a:
% mkrtf -R *.wn
Claris's open menu has an option for WriteNow NeXT, but
it simply doesn't work. Probably because any NeXT wn file
is really a folder in wrapper.
any help would be appreciated. I look in my file viewer at all
my articles and correspondence, etc with all those .wn extensions
and just sigh.
cheers,
kevin parks
From: fpottier@pauillac.inria.fr (Francois Pottier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CVS and .nib files
Date: 4 Jul 1997 07:30:52 GMT
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In article <5pfda8$3hg$1@hermes.is.co.za>, <gvandyk@icon.co.za> wrote:
>On 07/02/97, Vincent Kohler wrote:
>The only problem I had with wrappers is that I couldn't find the
>"wrap" and "unwrap" Utilities and I wrote my own. Was this the right
>thing to do or did I miss something somewhere
My distribution of cvs didn't have wrap and unwrap either (it's a cvs
1.9 which I found on the RedHat Linux CD). I simply use tar instead
and everything seems to work fine.
--
François Pottier
Francois.Pottier@inria.fr
http://pauillac.inria.fr/~fpottier/
From: J.Penning@t-online.de (J. Penning & G. Gabbert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: Kbd problem upgrading Cube to 3.2
Date: 3 Jul 1997 08:42:42 GMT
Organization: Telekom Online Internet Gateway
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Hi folks,
yesterday I upgraded a cube from Nextstep 3.0 to 3.2. Everything was
fine, finally I chose german language and keyboard, which is quite
appropriate (me living in Hamburg). Now I have an english keyboard
during login. Someone must have had this before, please tell me what
to do.
Besides, would you recommend upgrading a cube to 4.2? Why/why not?
Thanks in advance, Joerg.
--
Joerg Penning, Student at the comp. science dep.
at the University of Hamburg
email j.penning@t-online.de, penning@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
From: Paul WINDEY <windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Nexstep on laptop?
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 15:00:56 +0200
Organization: Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI)
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Hello,
I would like to install NextStep on a notebook.
If you have done so successfully and recently (machines with 133 Mhz or
166) could you please e-mail me the brand name and model with comments
if something was tricky? I would have to be able to do it myself.
I know that some integrators in the US sell laptops with preinstalled
NeXStep but this solution is not easily feasible for me since I have to
go to resellers in France for the machine to be paid by my academic
funding agency.
The brands which seem to have interesting laptops at a price I could
afford (french prices do not easily compare to US ones) are Thinkpads by
IBM, Gateway and Dell, possibly Toshiba.
Thanks a lot for any comments (and encouragements!)
Paul Windey,
LPTHE
Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI)
Bte 126
4pl Jussieu
F-75252 Paris CEDEX 05, FRANCE
e-mail: windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr
tel: 33-01-4427 7456 (Secretariat: 4427 4121)
FAX: 33-01-4427 73 93
From: gxa114@wileypost.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT MIDI problem.
Date: 4 Jul 1997 14:37:55 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <5pj1s3$1e92@r02n01.cac.psu.edu>
Im trying to get Sequence working on my NeXTStation 040/NON-ADB, but am
having some difficulty. I made the custom cables according to the info in
the "man zs" document (040-030 cable) When I run Sequence, I get a "Cannot
acquire MIDI Resources" for both port A and port B. The interface is a
Opcode Studio3. The OS is Nextstep 3.3, and is a fresh install with
nothing but the OS and Sequence. Is this a cable problem, or are my serial
ports both fried? Maybe I need some software installed that I dont know
about. Thanks for the help.
Geof
--
____________________________________________________________________________
Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space.
gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better
BeOS Developer #3089 than seeing your face.
-Laurie Anderson
...
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there?
Date: 4 Jul 1997 14:58:32 GMT
Organization: The PEAK ftp site for OpenStep and NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <5pj32o$i7f$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
References: <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <5pgn8n$kgj@crcnis3.unl.edu>
rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote:
>In article <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
>Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com writes:
>> godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote:
>> Too bad my personal web pages look like crap under OmniWeb (but good
>> under Netscape)
>
>Too bad your personal web pages use bad html then. (-; (I didn't really
>see anything that looked like "crap" with OmniwWeb at the address in your
>sig -- http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck )
>Really, in my experience, pages that look different in NS (and MSIE) than
>OmniWeb usually mean you've used poor html somewhere.
Yup, especially if your definition of 'bad html' included proprietary HTML
tags which are made up and controlled soley by either netscape or MSIE.
If your definition doesn't include such HTML, then you need to upgrade.
HTML was supposed to be a format where you could publish a page on any
computer and it could be read on any computer. MSIE wants to move it back to
you have to have M$ to use the Internet, and Netscape wants to remain unique
so it can stay afloat.... so we came up with PDF for distributing files that
can be read on any computer (but how do you make them?!? You need a special
app -- ARGH!) and soon enough PDF will become more and more specialized.
>I'm always amazed at how much more productive I am surfing the web when
>using OmniWeb at work versus my using NS or MSIE at home, where I miss my
>favorite features: drag-n-drop images and the Processes Inspector.
netscape tried to imitate OW's bookmarks, and did a bad job of it.
I've had to use netscape a lot lately, and really dislike it and wish OW was
available on my crappy work M$ boxes....
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
--
TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: Matthias Klose <Matthias.Klose@cs.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nexstep on laptop?
Date: 04 Jul 1997 19:21:59 +0200
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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Paul WINDEY <windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr> writes:
> I would like to install NextStep on a notebook.
> If you have done so successfully and recently (machines with 133 Mhz or
> 166) could you please e-mail me the brand name and model with comments
> if something was tricky? I would have to be able to do it myself.
> I know that some integrators in the US sell laptops with preinstalled
> NeXStep but this solution is not easily feasible for me since I have to
> go to resellers in France for the machine to be paid by my academic
> funding agency.
>
> The brands which seem to have interesting laptops at a price I could
> afford (french prices do not easily compare to US ones) are Thinkpads by
> IBM, Gateway and Dell, possibly Toshiba.
Some experiences with an IBM 760ED (133Mhz) and a Toshiba 730XCDT (150MMX):
- both have a XGA display (1024x768) which is definitely needed with
Nextstep. NXFactor claims a factor of 1.4 for the IBM and 1.0 for
the Toshiba in high color. Next supports a driver for the IBM
display; you can get drivers for the Toshiba by www.bifrostworks.com
- installation on the IBM is straightforward; the installation on the
Toshiba is a little bit tricky (HD and CDROM on separate EIDE adaptors).
- Sound isn't supported on the IBM, since they use incompatible
hardware (neither is the modem and the infrared port supported).
Until now, I can live with the Beep driver on the IBM.
(On Linux you can get sound support by booting Windows and then
warm-booting Nextstep. How can I warm-boot Nextstep?)
- both have APM support; on the IBM you can turn off power for each
interface separately (but you to switch to Windows or DOS to do this).
The batteries last for two hours.
Some Non-Nextstep related arguments:
- The Toshiba is heavy: more than four kilos. The IBM is more compact
and is quite portable (three kilos).
- both notebooks come with 16MB RAM. The IBM has two free SO-DIMM
slots, the Toshiba has only one (not a problem, if you buy a 32MB or
64MB module). My notebooks runs well with 48MB.
- I am not sure, if the SCSI adaptores are supported in the docking
stations (Anybody who knows?)
- Modem on the IBM: Well, I really dislike the attitude of IBM (at
least in Germany)! They sell you the computer with internal Modem,
but they do not say that you have to buy an extra telephony adaptor,
which costs an extra 320DEM ($180). (HELP: Can anybody tell me, if I
can get the US telephony adaptor? Probably people owning such
notebooks don't read new anymore ...)
- Support: I had a flickering display when charging the battery with
the IBM. They will exchange it without comment. No experiences with
Toshiba support. Both notebooks have three years warrenty!
- For both notebooks you get drivers for Windows NT; so at least you
have sound support on the IBM with Openstep/NT :-)
- The IBM has builtin MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 decoding (supported on all OS,
of course except Nextstep and Linux)
- On the Toshiba zou can switch the key caps for the CapsLock and the
Control key to get the keys in the one and only position. Nice! On
the IBM you have to change the keymapping and you will have to live
with the wrong caps.
> Thanks a lot for any comments (and encouragements!)
If you want to have a machine for the road, the IBM is probably better
suited. However with Nextstep you have to buy an extra PCMCIA modem.
The Toshiba has nicer support for Nextstep, but is not so nice to transport.
Although the graphics performance for both notebooks differs, there
are notebooks from other venders, which have much better graphics
performance (At least the WinGraphics Bench says this, see www.zdnet.com)
If money doesn't matter, have a look at the even larger 13.3"
displays, else have a look for either the IBM 760ED or the Toshiba
730CDT (no MMX). At least here in Germany they dropped prices for
these models.
Hope, this helps, Matthias
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor
Date: 4 Jul 1997 15:56:06 GMT
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <5pj6em$eq2$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <33AAC1D0.9DBE9FDD@novell.com> <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com>
In-Reply-To: <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com>
On 07/03/97, WillAdams wrote:
>I'd be interested in learning more about WebPages--is it commercial?
>shareware? freeware?
Pages is history for quite a while now. After Pages Inc went out of
business, the Pages code was bought by IT Solutions who supported it
for a short while. That too ended long ago. This is all part of
the past now.
The program had a lot of promise as an object-oriented publishing .app,
but neither Pages itself nor the HTML export filters for it were ever
really "finished". There were quirks and bugs that needed work to make
the .app competitive in 1994/5. Even if it was still available today,
it couldn't compete with the Web development tools available on "that
other platform" today.
Perhaps under Rhapsody we'll get some good Web tools.
--
----------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta
Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome)
http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
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Subject: $ DO YOU HATE YOUR JOB?? $
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$50,000.00 for only $5.00 within 2 MONTHS?????
==============================================
You gotta be crazy! How on earth do you think you can buy 50 grand
for lousy 5 bucks? Well, that's what I was wondering, too until I
came across this letter.
First of all, IT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL! (Call 1-800-725-2161) if you
have any questions about the following opportunity to make
$50,000.00 and that probably WITHIN LESS THAN TWO MONTHS!
Well, here it goes:
A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you
are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you
could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial
investment of $5.00! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a joke,"
but like most of us I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said
that you send $1.00 to each of the 5 names and address stated in the
article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the
list at #5, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There
are thousands) No catch, that was it.
I knew that that was the opportunity I had waited for for a long time.
I thought it was about time that the money of the world gets into the
right hands! OURS, right? I never had a doubt that this thing will
actually work and even if it didn't, what were 5 stamps and $5.00 for
a try?
As I mentioned before, like most of us I was a little skeptical and
a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it
out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed
that it is indeed legal!
Now, that's how your story WILL sound like, too if you participate:
Well GUESS WHAT!!... with in 7 days, I started getting money in the
mail! I was shocked! I still figured it would end soon, and didn't
give it another thought. But the money just kept coming in. In my
first week, I made about $20.00 to $30.00 dollars. By the end of the
second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00!!!!!! In the third
week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my
fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it's
still coming in .......
Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, Why
it works....also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so
you can get the information off of it as you need it. The process is
very simple and consists of 3 easy steps:
STEP 1: Get 5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each
piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Now get 5 $1.00
bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 5 pieces of paper so the bill
will not be seen through the envelope to prevent thievery. Next, place
one paper in each of the 5 envelopes and seal them. You should now
have 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above
phrase and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service by
this. THIS IS PERFECTLY LEGAL!
Mail the 5 envelopes to the following addresses:
#1 Robert Jezil
114 Jefferson Ave.
Slidell, LA 70460
#2 Phil Walther Jr.
9495 Annapolis Lane North
Maple Grove, MN 55369
#3 C. E. Burkman
170 University Ave. W
Suite 12-129
Waterloo, Ontario
N2L 3E9
#4 A. Bailey
1207 Reeves Road
Plainfield, IN 46168
#5 J. Martin
P.O. Box 2292
Reston, Va. 20190
STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
other names up (2 becomes 1, 3 becomes 2, etc...) and add YOUR Name as
number 5 on the list.
STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as
close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at
least 200 newsgroups. (I think there is close to 18,000 groups) All
you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you
make!
Don't know HOW to post in the newsgroups? Well do exactly the
following:
FOR NETSCAPE USERS:
1) Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on "To News", which
is in the top left corner of the newsgroup page. This will bring up a
message box.
2) Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title, like the one I used,
something to catch the eye!!!
3) Now go to the message part of the box and retype this letter
exactly as it is here, with exception of your few changes. (remember
to add your name to number 5 and move the rest up)
4) When your done typing in the WHOLE letter, click on 'FILE' above
the send button. Then, 'SAVE AS..' DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTILL YOU
SAVE IT. (so you don't have to type this 200 times :-)
5) Now that you have saved the letter, go ahead and send your first
copy! (click the 'SEND' button in the top left corner)
6) This is where you post all 200! OK, go to ANY newsgroup article and
click the 'TO NEWS' button again. Type in your flashy subject in the
'SUBJECT BOX', then go to the message and place your cursor here. Now
click on 'ATTACHMENT' which is right below the 'SUBJECT BOX'. Click on
attach file then find your letter wherever you saved it. Click once
on your file then click 'OPEN' then click 'OK'. If you did this right
, you should see your filename in the 'ATTACHMENT BOX' and it will be
shaded.
NOW POST AWAY!
FOR INTERNET EXPLORER:
It's just as easy, holding down the left mouse button, highlight this
entire article, then press the 'CTRL' key and 'C' key at the same time
to copy this article. Then print the article for your records to have
the names of those you will be sending $1.00 to.
Go to the newsgroups and press 'POST AN ARTICLE' type in your flashy
subject and click the large window below. Press 'CTRL' and 'V' and the
article will appear in the message window. **BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR
ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE 5 NAMES.** Now re-highlight the article and
re-copy it so you have the changes.... then all you have to do for
each newsgroup is 'CTRL' and 'V' and press 'POST'. It's that easy!!
THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post
away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for
each newsgroup!
**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL
MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**
**If these instructions are too complex to follow, try Forte's "Free
Agent." It is freeware for noncommercial use. To download it, simply
use a search utility and type "Forte Free Agent". You should be able
to find it.**
That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within
days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large
amount of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you con
invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST
MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.**
Now the WHY part:
This entire principle works because it is in a format of an upside
down tree with thousands of branches. Everyone below you will see to
it that the tree continues because they want to get money. Those
below THEM will continue because THEY want to get the cash etc.
Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low
example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #5 on the letter. Now,
each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200
postings, each with my name at #4 and only 5 persons respond to each
of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each
make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #3 and only 5 replies each, I
will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn
around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #2 and only receive 5
replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the
fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM of 200 letters
with my name at #1 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just
made me $3,125.00!!! With a original investment of only $5.00!
AMAZING! And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is
probable 20 to 30! So lets put those figures at just 15 responses
per person. Here is what you will make:
at #5 $15.00
at #4 $225.00
at #3 $3,375.00
at #2 $50,625.00
at #1 $759,375.00
When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $5.00 to names on the
list, putting your name at number 5 and start posting again.
The thing to remember is that thousands of people all over the world
are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST
LIKE YOU are now!! And this will go on and on and on and on.... get
the picture? Well, there's 5,000,000,000 people on the world and
most of them will eventually end up being hooked into the internet.
So there are virtually unlimited resources. Of course this will work
the best at the very beginning so the faster you post, the better for
YOU!
So can you afford $5.00 and see if it really works?? I think so!
People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends
you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when
there are tons of new honest users and new honest works?? I think
so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one
sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening
when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are
joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to
give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users,
every day, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet.
Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just have
to be honest. Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also.
Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an
eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly.
Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the
basic idea to make the money!!
GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from
this, which is tons of extra CASH. **By the way, if you try to deceive
people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not
sending the money to the rest of the people already on the list, you
will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that
and he only made about $150.00, and that's after seven or eight weeks!
Then he sent the 5 $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and
in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and most honest way
I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing
anything but our time!!! You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail
lists for future dollars.
Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again...
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor
Date: 4 Jul 1997 15:59:35 GMT
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <5pj6l7$nrc$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <33AAC1D0.9DBE9FDD@novell.com> <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com>
In-Reply-To: <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com>
On 07/03/97, WillAdams wrote:
>I'd be interested in learning more about WebPages--is it commercial?
>shareware? freeware?
Pages is history for quite a while now. After Pages Inc went out of
business, the Pages code was bought by IT Solutions who supported it
for a short while. That too ended long ago. This is all part of
the past now.
The program had a lot of promise as an object-oriented publishing .app,
but neither Pages itself nor the HTML export filters for it were ever
really "finished". There were quirks and bugs that needed work to make
the .app competitive in 1994/5. Even if it was still available today,
it couldn't compete with the Web development tools available on "that
other platform" today.
Perhaps under Rhapsody we'll get some good Web tools.
--
----------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta
Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome)
http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: Matt Unger matt@oasis.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted: Prelude to Rhapsody bundle
Date: 4 Jul 1997 22:40:03 -0700
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
Message-ID: <5pkmnj$aii@drn.zippo.com>
I'm interested in buying a copy of the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle. I work in the
computing dept. at the UW and need to explain the direction Apple is headed with
its OS. Our campus will soon decide on dropping support for Apple products
because of all the current OS issues. I am hoping that a demonstration of the
software would help to convince the administrators to stay with the company.
Any help with this matter would be greatly appreciated by myself and 250 other
mac users on campus. Thanks.
Direct responses to: Matt Unger - matt@oasis.uwec.edu
From: gregor@crosslink.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: QUIX Computerware web site or email
Date: 4 Jul 1997 22:24:43 GMT
Organization: CrossLink Internet Services
Message-ID: <5pjt7b$9l8$1@kronos.crosslink.net>
References: <19970702180400.OAA20099@ladder02.news.aol.com>
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Cc: mrflora@aol.com
In <19970702180400.OAA20099@ladder02.news.aol.com> MRFlora wrote:
> Hello,
> Anybody know the URL or email addr. for QUIX Computerware AG? Does the
> company still exist? I am trying to find upgrades for their Daydream h/w
> and s/w.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael Flora
> mrflora@aol.com
>
Consider QUIX dead in the water. They weren't at all dependable when they
were making the product, and NEVER answer e-mail now. Faxes used to be the
best bet but I think the number is now disconnected. A couple of months ago
I bought (over the net) a Daydream system from an American PHd type studying
in Austria. The guy just stuck the whole thing in a paper envelope and sent
it uninsured. When it got here, the envelope was ripped open and the ROM box
was naturally missing. I tried to contact QUIX for a month, via e-mail,
phone and fax to see about a replacement ROM box, but no answer at all. The
seller also tried to contact them with no luck.
Sorry things aren't more positive. It also seems that Daydream will not run
7.6 either, so the faithful are frozen in time with 7.5.5.
best regards
Gregor
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From: cunningham@medicalrounds.com[nospam] (Ken Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HOT TO USE TAR AND GUNZIP ??!
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 07:14:08 -0800
Organization: Ken Cunningham, MD, Inc.
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In article <01bc7f0b$fd444990$00010101@murdock>, "Jean-Claude"
<murdocks@mbox.vol.it> wrote:
> the was a blablabla_tar.gz... i've decompressed it under winNT UNZIP and
Mount the DOS disk under NextStep (filenames will be truncated to 8.3).
Copy the file to an OpenStep partition that you can write to.
(login as root if you're not sure what this means).
Open a Terminal window.
Navigate to the directory where your file is.
Do an 'ls'.
Copy the file name with the mouse and alt-C.
Type> gzcat filename.tar.gz | tar xvf -
(You can use alt-V to paste filename)
That'll do it.
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From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 20:02:33 -0400
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <wnjMwNm00iWl05Aw80@andrew.cmu.edu>
References: <33AAC1D0.9DBE9FDD@novell.com>
<19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com>
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 3-Jul-97 Re: Wanted:
WYSIWYG HTML Ed.. by WillAdams@aol.com
> I'd be interested in learning more about WebPages--is it commercial?
> shareware? freeware?
ITS did a friendly acquisition of Pages by Pages Inc when that company
went out of business, and created WebPages. WebPages was a commercial
product offered by ITS, which is also out of business
It was a decent idea for a product at the time, but ITS was hamstrung
trying to manage the vast code base comprising Pages/WebPages (something
like 100-odd MB of source) in order to do further work on the software.
The product simply never had enough sales volume to cover the expense of
developing it....
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer
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From: cunningham@medicalrounds.com[nospam] (Ken Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HOT TO USE TAR AND GUNZIP ??!
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 07:15:29 -0800
Organization: Ken Cunningham, MD, Inc.
Message-ID: <cunningham-ya02408000R0507970715290001@news.direct.ca>
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In article <01bc7f0b$fd444990$00010101@murdock>, "Jean-Claude"
> i've tried to use UNIX command but NEXTSTEP says that cannot exctract files
> beacuse file name too long (???)..
You probably tried to extract the files on the DOS partition, which only
supports 8.3 filenames. Copy it to the OpenStep partition.
See other posting for complete instructions.
Ken
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From: candlish@efn.org (John Candlish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: emacs 19.34.2 , xemacs, supporting java-mode.
Date: 4 Jul 1997 19:32:53 -0700
Organization: Oregon Public Networking: Eugene Freenet
Message-ID: <5pkbol$3f5@garcia.efn.org>
Hi fellow NeXTians.
I'm looking for a more modern version of emacs than the one base on 19.28
now available. I recall some discusion about future version of emacs
moving to xemacs due to difficulties in maintaining NeXT specific code in
the offical emacs source tree.
Anyway that was maybe two years ago, and now I _need_ an emacs that uses
the current (2.4.1) elisp.
Things like cc-mode.el and jde.el just don't work in 19.28 ;-(
So I'm hoping that those more up-to-date that myself could direct me to
the most recent resource.
tia.
jCandlish.
From: cunningham@medicalrounds.com[nospam] (Ken Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Prelude to Rhapsody bundle
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 07:44:27 -0800
Organization: Ken Cunningham, MD, Inc.
Message-ID: <cunningham-ya02408000R0507970744270001@news.direct.ca>
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In article <5pkmnj$aii@drn.zippo.com>, Matt Unger matt@oasis.uwec.edu wrote:
> I'm interested in buying a copy of the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle. I work
in the
> computing dept. at the UW and need to explain the direction Apple is
headed with
> its OS. Our campus will soon decide on dropping support for Apple products
> because of all the current OS issues. I am hoping that a demonstration of the
> software would help to convince the administrators to stay with the company.
> Any help with this matter would be greatly appreciated by myself and 250 other
> mac users on campus. Thanks.
>
> Direct responses to: Matt Unger - matt@oasis.uwec.edu
Hello, Matt --
Unfortunately nobody (honest) will be able to sell you a copy. It is under
a strict NDA from Apple.
You can do the following, however...
log on to apple's DEV site at devworld.apple.com
download the developer agreement, sign it, and fax it back with $250 on
your credit card
download their NDA, sign it, and mail it back (no faxing this one).
Wait 3 days.
You have:
OpenStep 4.2 (with a no-distribution liscence)
OpenStep Enterprise for Win95/NT
Access to all of apple's other dev stuff on the net (MacOS 8 betas, for example)
Lots of marketing, analysis, direction materials
Plus monthly CD's full of cool stuff.
Who knows -- you may even like the Rhapsodic experience so much you can't
stop yourself from writing that next great piece of software...
Ken
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From: david minor <dhminor@facstaff.wisc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Openstep/Win95 Dual Boot
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 12:15:05 -0500
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison
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Hi--I'm a Next newbie, so sorry if this is a stupid question, but:
I am supporting a user who has an IBM Thinkpad. We have Openstep 4.1
installed on a @700meg partition and Win95 on a @300meg partition.
Openstep runs fine, Win95 runs fine, BUT, we are not getting a good
option as far as booting. At the moment if we want to boot to Win95 we
have to run fdisk and set that as the active partition; ditto for
Openstep.
Is there a setting that we need to change/turn on so that we can be
prompted on booting for the correct partition? The fdisk option is
really a pain.
Thanks in advance,
david minor.
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MiniSQL, EOF, & Webobjects
Date: 5 Jul 1997 21:56:33 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <5pmfuh$8a1$3@news2.digex.net>
Has anyone got an EOF database adapter that will work with MiniSQL?
Is there some place where I can find a version of MiniSQL, and the
EOF adapter that will work with OPENSTEP for Mach 4.2/Intel and
EOF 2.1 (and webobjects 3.1?).
Alternatively...does Oracle make a version (Personal or academic)
for OPENSTEP for Mach/Intel?
Thanks :)
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From: mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTStep + QMail
Date: 05 Jul 1997 22:48:44 -0700
Organization: Darkside
Message-ID: <hhsoxsennn.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net>
I posted about this a long time ago, but never made any further
progress. Qmail happily compiles and runs fine under NeXTStep, but I
had numerous issues with Mail.app. Is anyone out there using qmail and
Mail.app ?
My problem was essentially that in Mail.app, you can configure your
Spool *DIRECTORY*, but not your spool file. Qmail delivers mail to
~/Mailbox. Mail.app looks for [spooldir]/$USER. The two don't
click. Furthermore, I personally split my mail off with procmail into
a bunch of different spools, eg $/Mail/spool/spoolname.
If anyone has any ideas on this, please let me know =]
.mycroft
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HOT TO USE TAR AND GUNZIP ??!
Date: 6 Jul 1997 04:23:27 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <5pn6jv$sbk$1@news.digifix.com>
References: <01bc7f0b$fd444990$00010101@murdock> <cunningham-ya02408000R0507970714080001@news.direct.ca>
In-Reply-To: <cunningham-ya02408000R0507970714080001@news.direct.ca>
On 07/05/97, Ken Cunningham wrote:
>In article <01bc7f0b$fd444990$00010101@murdock>, "Jean-Claude"
><murdocks@mbox.vol.it> wrote:
>
>
>> the was a blablabla_tar.gz... i've decompressed it under winNT
UNZIP and
>
>Mount the DOS disk under NextStep (filenames will be truncated to
8.3).
>Copy the file to an OpenStep partition that you can write to.
> (login as root if you're not sure what this means).
>Open a Terminal window.
>Navigate to the directory where your file is.
>Do an 'ls'.
>Copy the file name with the mouse and alt-C.
>
>Type> gzcat filename.tar.gz | tar xvf -
>
>(You can use alt-V to paste filename)
>
It might be better to use gnutar
gnutar -xvozf filename.tar.gz
It should handle log paths correctly (or at least better than
plain old tar)
--
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NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: *.wn -> .rtf ?
Date: 6 Jul 1997 02:50:17 GMT
Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
Message-ID: <5pn159$pst$2@bashir.peak.org>
References: <33BC3E3C.49F5@dartmouth.edu>
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In <33BC3E3C.49F5@dartmouth.edu> kevin parks wrote:
> Is there any way to convert all my WriteNow
> files to rtf in batch. instead of opening each individual
> file and doing a save as.
There's a wn2rtf binary at
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/converters/wn2rtf.1.0.N.b.gz
You can use it like this:
for i in `/bin/ls *.wn`
do
short=`basename $i .rtf`
wn2rtf $i > $short.rtf
done
exit 0
I am not sure how well it deals with anything which is not text. YMMV/etc/etc
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there?
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 00:36:10 -0700
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <33BF4AB8.7CE7@earthlink.net>
References: <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <5pgn8n$kgj@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5pj32o$i7f$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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Timothy Luoma wrote:
> I've had to use netscape a lot lately, and really dislike it and wish OW was
> available on my crappy work M$ boxes....
I'm looking foward to it on Rhapsody!
STEVE K.
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Subject: sell/your/photos$$$$$
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Subject: FREE OFFER-ONE NUMBER!
Date: 6 Jul 1997 16:04:26 GMT
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From: Matthew Reichman <mreichman@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep + QMail
Date: 6 Jul 1997 18:26:40 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Message-ID: <5poo10$qht@ecuador.earthlink.net>
References: <hhsoxsennn.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net>
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In <hhsoxsennn.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> mycroft wrote:
>
> My problem was essentially that in Mail.app, you can configure your
> Spool *DIRECTORY*, but not your spool file. Qmail delivers mail to
> ~/Mailbox. Mail.app looks for [spooldir]/$USER. The two don't
> click. Furthermore, I personally split my mail off with procmail into
> a bunch of different spools, eg $/Mail/spool/spoolname.
First, you can specify in Mail.app's preferences under "Expert" where
Mail.app will look for mail.
Second, this is different from the "[spooldir]/$USER" directory as
Mail.app doesn't look there anyway. That's sendmail or qmail or something
else that handles that part. And, as well, in Mail.app expert preferences
the spool directory is configurable.
Qmail should be able to deliver directly to ~/Mailbox and then Mail.app
should be able to pick it up from there. I ran Qmail for a little while
and that was never a problem.
The problem I had with running Qmail with Mail.app (and not with
Eloquent) was sending mail out. Mail.app's From headers didn't get
processed properly by Qmail and so my mail was not going out.
Are you able to have Mail.app send mail through Qmail without problem?
Did you have to do any special configurations to achieve that? What
version of Qmail are you using?
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman <mreichman@earthlink.net>
NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome
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From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
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From: Marco Cappuccio <nocturno@i-2000.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Dynamic Device Binding
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 16:26:06 -0400
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Can anyone tell me if the Mach based kernel in NeXT can dynamically bind
devices at runtime? The BeOS can boot without loading many devices. The
devices are mounted dynamically as they are called for, which makes the
system startup VERY quickly. It also reduces the ram footprint. I
haven't found much deep technical detail on the NeXT kernel yet so any
pointers would be appreciated.
Thanks from a NeXT newbie,
Marco Cappuccio
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Subject: free report
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From: jin@ghost.nuri.net (Jin Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] CD Player & OmniCD
Date: 7 Jul 1997 02:46:48 GMT
Organization: HanNuri Internet Service
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I'm using NEXTSTEP3.3 on my ThinkPad560.
I can read/write sound files with ES1x88 Audio Driver.
I use SlimSCSI as SCSI adapter and it works properly -- when
I put Audio CD it recognize it and launches CD-Player.
When I play a Audio CD with CD-Player or OmniCD, the CD runs
-- I can hear the sound from the jack on the player directly --
but no sound from the sound jack of my laptop.
Does anybody know what's the problem and how can I solve it?
Thanx a lot.
- p.s. When I used the OmniCD instead of CD-Player, the OmniCD
thought the SlimSCSI as an ATAPI CD Device. :-(
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From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep + QMail
Date: 6 Jul 1997 15:54:36 GMT
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In <hhsoxsennn.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> mycroft wrote:
Note: I am not using qmail, so this is all speculation
> My problem was essentially that in Mail.app, you can configure your
> Spool *DIRECTORY*, but not your spool file. Qmail delivers mail to
> ~/Mailbox. Mail.app looks for [spooldir]/$USER. The two don't
> click. Furthermore, I personally split my mail off with procmail into
> a bunch of different spools, eg $/Mail/spool/spoolname.
>
> If anyone has any ideas on this, please let me know =]
Well, you don't need /usr/spool/mail/$USER anymore, now that appnmail can
deliver to an open mailbox.
Using procmail and appnmail, I sort ALL my incoming email. If it doesn't
match a pattern I have predetermined (rare) it is appended to Active.mbox.
So you can use qmail to send your mail to procmail and sort what you want,
and then make the last line:
:0
|appnmail Active
and anything that hits the end of the procmailrc file will go to Active.mbox
I think that should do it.
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Porting NeXTStep App to OpenStep
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 23:23:18 -0800
Organization: EdgeMedia Networks
Message-ID: <erich-0607972323190001@ppp-207-104-16-69.snrf01.pacbell.net>
How easy is it to port a NeXTStep application under 3.3 to OpenStep for
Mach on Intel 4.2?
Considering I dont have access to a NeXTStep machine, will I be able to
pull this off?
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Porting NeXTStep App to OpenStep
Date: 7 Jul 1997 08:19:35 GMT
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In <erich-0607972323190001@ppp-207-104-16-69.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric Harley
wrote:
> How easy is it to port a NeXTStep application under 3.3 to OpenStep for
> Mach on Intel 4.2?
Depends on the size of the app. It's not very hard, but some things require a
little different way of wrapping your brain around things.
> Considering I dont have access to a NeXTStep machine, will I be able to
> pull this off?
Well, in this case, it's probably pretty hard.
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Subject: *writers/seeking/publication
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From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: xtem in NextStep/OpenStep
Date: 7 Jul 1997 09:45:50 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
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Hi all,
Has anyone seen a port of xtem to NextStep/OpenStep? It would be
convenient to have such a thing (useful for LaTeX users) under
NextStep/OpenStep. If not, will someone port it?
Khanh,
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From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CVS and .nib files
Date: 7 Jul 1997 07:37:42 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
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fpottier@pauillac.inria.fr (Francois Pottier) wrote:
> In article <5pfda8$3hg$1@hermes.is.co.za>, <gvandyk@icon.co.za> wrote:
> >On 07/02/97, Vincent Kohler wrote:
>
> >The only problem I had with wrappers is that I couldn't find the
> >"wrap" and "unwrap" Utilities and I wrote my own. Was this the right
> >thing to do or did I miss something somewhere
>
> My distribution of cvs didn't have wrap and unwrap either (it's a cvs
> 1.9 which I found on the RedHat Linux CD). I simply use tar instead
> and everything seems to work fine.
My colleague who updated our installation to 1.9 said the same. When I
installed 1.7, however, I found the two utilities in the sample cvsroot.
Since they are not too long I'll include them below.
There's another problem with wrappers though: When you use the cvs server,
maybe because you cannot export the cvsroot via NFS, they don't work! The
directories will be treated like files and all you get is junk. This is a
known problem (at least since 1.7) and eventhough some people seem to be
working on it I've never heard of a fix.
enjoy
erik
-------8<---------------------------------------------------------------
#! /bin/sh
#
# wrap - Combine a directory into a single tar package.
#
#ident "@(#)cvs/examples:$Name: $:$Id: wrap,v 1.1 1996/01/17 14:38:58 erik
Exp $"
# This script is always called with the current directory set to
# where the file to be combined exists. but i may get called with a
# path to where cvs first started executing. (this probably should be
# fixed in cvs) so strip out all of the directory information. The
# first sed expression will only work if the path has a leading /
# if it doesn't the one in the if statement will work.
DIRNAME=`echo $1 | sed -e "s|/.*/||g"`
if [ ! -d $DIRNAME ] ; then
DIRNAME=`echo $1 | sed -e "s|.*/||g"`
fi
#
# Now tar up the directory but we now will only get a relative path
# even if the user did a cvs commit . at the top.
#
gnutar --preserve --sparse -cf - $DIRNAME | gzip --no-name --best -c > $2
-------8<---------------------------------------------------------------
-------8<---------------------------------------------------------------
#! /bin/sh
#
# unwrap - extract the combined package (created with wrap)
#
#ident "@(#)cvs/examples:$Name: $:$Id: unwrap,v 1.1 1996/01/17 14:38:59
erik Exp $"
# move the file to a new name with an extension
rm -rf $1.cvswrap
mv $1 $1.cvswrap
# untar the file
if `gzip -t $1.cvswrap > /dev/null 2>&1`
then
gzcat -d $1.cvswrap | gnutar --preserve --sparse -x -f -
else
gnutar --preserve --sparse -x -f $1.cvswrap
fi
# remove the original
rm -rf $1.cvswrap
-------8<---------------------------------------------------------------
-- Erik Dörnenburg
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From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Dynamic Device Binding
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:33:59 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 6-Jul-97 Dynamic Device
Binding by Marco Cappuccio@i-2000.c
> Can anyone tell me if the Mach based kernel in NeXT can dynamically bind
> devices at runtime? [ ... ]
The Mach kernel supports dynamicly loading kernel modules, yes.
Things like foreign filesystems and sound/MIDI support are the most
common examples where this is the case on black hardware; NEXTSTEP for
the Intel world obviously has to load and configure the various drivers
in the boot process.
> I haven't found much deep technical detail on the NeXT kernel yet so any
> pointers would be appreciated.
Look at
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/OperatingSystem/Part2_WritingLKSs/_ApA
_Utilities/Utilities.rtf.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer
----------------+---------------------+---------------------
I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Blake LeBaron <blake@ai.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 10:28:15 -0700
Organization: University of Wisconsin
Message-ID: <33C1272F.5E42@ai.mit.edu>
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gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam wrote:
>
> On 07/03/97, WillAdams wrote:
> >I'd be interested in learning more about WebPages--is it commercial?
> >shareware? freeware?
>
> Pages is history for quite a while now. After Pages Inc went out of
> business, the Pages code was bought by IT Solutions who supported it
> for a short while. That too ended long ago. This is all part of
> the past now.
>
> The program had a lot of promise as an object-oriented publishing .app,
> but neither Pages itself nor the HTML export filters for it were ever
> really "finished". There were quirks and bugs that needed work to make
> the .app competitive in 1994/5. Even if it was still available today,
> it couldn't compete with the Web development tools available on "that
> other platform" today.
>
> Perhaps under Rhapsody we'll get some good Web tools.
I also used Webpages a long time ago, and liked it. It was able to
handle a
lot of format conversions very easily. My only complaint was that it
generated
pretty big files, but I have much more disk space now. I would look at
it again
if it ever reappears, but it sounds like that is unlikely.
Blake LeBaron
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] CD Player & OmniCD
Date: 7 Jul 1997 15:19:33 GMT
Organization: Global Objects Inc.
Message-ID: <5pr1e5$nvo$1@news.xmission.com>
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jin@ghost.nuri.net (Jin Ko) wrote:
> I'm using NEXTSTEP3.3 on my ThinkPad560.
> I can read/write sound files with ES1x88 Audio Driver.
> I use SlimSCSI as SCSI adapter and it works properly -- when
> I put Audio CD it recognize it and launches CD-Player.
>
> When I play a Audio CD with CD-Player or OmniCD, the CD runs
> -- I can hear the sound from the jack on the player directly --
> but no sound from the sound jack of my laptop.
>
> Does anybody know what's the problem and how can I solve it?
What you are experiencing is probably a known bug in the ATAPI support; I
assume your CD is an ATAPI because mine is too, and has the same problem.
Apparently, there's isn't much of a standard as to the commands to send to an
ATAPI drive to set the volume. Since the earphone jack on the front of the
drive is controlled by the thumbwheel, you can use that to get sound, but the
internal connection to the sound card is controlled by software, which the
OPENSTEP driver cannot control.
Gotta love all those "standards" supported by PC hardware vendors...NOT.
Let's hope that Apple now has enough engineers that they can fix the driver
and support all the volume-control schemes out there. To date, they haven't
had the resources to generate the ad-hoc ssolution that will be required to
make it work...
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com
<a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] CD Player & OmniCD
Date: 7 Jul 1997 06:32:11 GMT
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Jin Ko wrote in <5pplao$cl6$1@news.nuri.net> on 1997-07-07 04:46:48 +0200:
> When I play a Audio CD with CD-Player or OmniCD, the CD runs
> -- I can hear the sound from the jack on the player directly --
> but no sound from the sound jack of my laptop.
>
> Does anybody know what's the problem and how can I solve it?
As far as I know you have to connect your CD-ROM directly to your
soundcard.
But I think you better don't play audio CDs on Intel hardware. I
get system panics on a regular basis when I do so.
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From: "Greg Meece" <gregm@pcdocs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: AppleTalk support in OS 4.x?
Date: 1 Jul 1997 13:56:44 GMT
Organization: PC DOCS, Inc.
Message-ID: <01bc8626$443da0a0$e91c2cc7@Die_Bill_Gates.pcdocs.com>
I have the "Prelude to Rhapsody" release (AKA 4.2) for Intel. The SysAdmin
manual says there's support for AppleTalk (and even details configuring
it), but I can't find a driver or install package anywhere on the CD or on
my HD after the install. Does NeXT still support this?
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards,
Greg Meece
SQA Engineer
PC DOCS, Inc.
124 Marriott Drive
Tallahassee, FL 32301
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From: mmalcolm crawford <Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Gamma values in Rhapsody?
Date: 7 Jul 1997 10:39:01 GMT
Organization: P&L Systems
Message-ID: <5pqh05$sof$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <33A9A654.9E76FD2A@excell.com>
In-Reply-To: <33A9A654.9E76FD2A@excell.com>
On 06/19/97, Dayne Miller wrote:
>So, does anyone know (guesses don't count...) whether Rhapsody will use
>NEXTSTEP's gamma values, or those of the current MacOS? I can see some
>problems with cross-platform images if NEXTSTEP's is used, but something
>tells me it's likely -- and not being a graphic artist, i couldn't tell
>you which is inherently better (or if such a term even applies).
>
Well, I might argue that NEXTSTEP's model is better :-)
It would be useful to know which values will be used -- I was hoping someone
from AppLE might have replied by now...
The "workaround" I use at the moment is simply to do everything in NEXTSTEP
and themn when I want to put somethig on the Web to do a gamma conversion...
cf
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm/NEXTSTEP/WWW/
>If only everyone would use PNG all the time...
>
<sigh> Yes...
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: "Peter N. Hein" <phein@wright.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where to get Lighthouse Design software license numbers?
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 16:06:07 -0400
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phein@gromit.wright.edu (NeXT mail friendly)
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From: rraman@osf1.gmu.edu (RAVISHANKAR RAMANATHAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Setting up ppp
Date: 7 Jul 1997 22:12:32 GMT
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Hello all:
I am trying to setup a ppp connection from home and I get the following error message:
Jul 7 18:03:01 localhost pppd[429]: ioctl: TIOCMBIS/BIC: Inappropriate ioctl for device
I am using the following:
pppd version 2.2 patch level 0beta3
The ppp-faq says two possible problems: using cua instead of cufa (I used IComm to connect using cufa,) or the LKS and user level daemon (pppd) not being the same version. I would like to solve this problem so I can use ppp connection from home. My school supports tia (the internet adaptor) ppp solution. Could this be a problem? The modem is a Global Village Teleport 33.6 Speakerphone edition.
Thanks in advance
Ravi
From: Michael Giddings
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris
Date: 7 Jul 1997 22:17:33 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Distribution: world
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References: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com>
Cc: lparkyn@prosoft.com
In <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> Lyle Parkyn wrote:
> I am contemplateing installing OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris 2.5.1 on a Sparc 5.
I too am contemplating this. We have a number of people interested in seeing
our OpenStep based software on Solaris. Any advice or info related to
experiences with OS/Solaris would be appreciated.
Also, has anyone heard anything recently about the future of OS/Solaris? In
the field I'm in, Sun boxes are used extensively, so it would be nice to have
ongoing support for OpenStep/Solaris.
Thanks for any information.
--
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Subject: Re: Where to get Lighthouse Design software license numbers?
Date: 8 Jul 1997 00:25:18 GMT
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=========================================
On 07/07/97, "Peter N. Hein" wrote:
> Another user in the same boat!
>
> I really would like to get licsenes for their products (Lighthouse
> AcademicCD). Would anyone like to give theirs up or know where I can
get
> one for myself?
>
> TIA
>
> Peter Hein
> Wright State University - Network Services
> phein@gromit.wright.edu (NeXT mail friendly)
>
From: Ken W <hazmat@shore.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openstep/Win95 Dual Boot
Date: 8 Jul 1997 02:27:09 GMT
Organization: Shore.Net; a service of Eco Software, Inc. (info@shore.net)
Message-ID: <5ps8ht$l98@fridge-nf0.shore.net>
References: <33BA8C99.F08@facstaff.wisc.edu>
david minor <dhminor@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
dm> Hi--I'm a Next newbie, so sorry if this is a stupid question, but:
dm> I am supporting a user who has an IBM Thinkpad. We have Openstep 4.1
dm> installed on a @700meg partition and Win95 on a @300meg partition.
dm> Openstep runs fine, Win95 runs fine, BUT, we are not getting a good
dm> option as far as booting. At the moment if we want to boot to Win95 we
dm> have to run fdisk and set that as the active partition; ditto for
dm> Openstep.
dm> Is there a setting that we need to change/turn on so that we can be
dm> prompted on booting for the correct partition? The fdisk option is
dm> really a pain.
Hi, David. I haven't checked out NeXT, but I would highly
suggest checking out System Commander. I am running it with DOS
and Win95 right now, and it's great. To install an OS,
especially one as preditory as Win95, SC will actually hide all
other OSs from it for installation. SC will work with any Intel
compatible OS.
-Ken
--
hazmat@shore.net
panic@io.com
http://www.shore.net/~hazmat
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb 2.6b ?
Date: 8 Jul 1997 10:28:07 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc.
Message-ID: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com>
Hi,
I realized that OmniWeb 2.6b is out... but is it worth upgrading ? What did
change...there is currently no info on Omnis web pages which usually show the
release notes.
Any idea ?
Aloha
Tomi
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Icongrabber ?
Date: 8 Jul 1997 10:58:50 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc.
Message-ID: <5pt6ha$dt3$1@concorde.ctp.com>
Hi,
does someone out there have a copy of "IconGrabber.app" ?
I have one at home...but forgot to take it over here.
It is a tny old NeXTSTEP app which just opens a window (48x48) where you can
drop any file...and get the file icon which you then can copy/paste.
Really handy...really useful...but not on any archive at searched. :-(
Aloha
Tomi
P.S. I gues it once was on those Big Green CDs or that like. The apps icon
was an app icon with the hand like it used in "Grab.app".
From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b ?
Date: 8 Jul 1997 12:10:01 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University
Message-ID: <5ptamp$dko@news.tamu.edu>
References: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Jul 1997 12:10:01 GMT
> Hi,
>
> I realized that OmniWeb 2.6b is out... but is it worth upgrading ? What did
> change...there is currently no info on Omnis web pages which usually show the
> release notes.
>
> Any idea ?
>
> Aloha
> Tomi
Where did you find OmniWeb 2.6b?
HP
From: tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: vi-like editor
Date: 8 Jul 1997 12:48:10 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <5ptcua$fsh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Hi!
I'm a SPARC vi user who has recently moved to NEXTSTEP 3.0
There are many handy features of vi which are not supported
in Edit, TeXEdit &c. such as jumping words, jumping to the
end of a line with keystrokes only. I do not use emacs and
I would like to know if there are any editors for NeXT which
are vi-like but which have a point-and-click feel also?
--
thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university;
tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678;
http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 for zero entropy.
From: "H. Blakely Williford" <blakew@fuller.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Moveing lotus improv files from black h/w to lotus wk# format.
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 08:42:14 -0500
Organization: The Fuller Brush Company
Message-ID: <33C243B6.230362C6@fuller.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello World!
We have several NeXT machines with the black hardware. The users
love these machines; the problem is these machines are wareing out.
We have lots of lotus improv spread sheets on these NeXT machines.
Is there a untility out there that will take these .imp files and
convert them to the now common lotus .wk(1-4) format?
Thank you for your time.
--
H. Blakely Williford | Men never do evil so completely and
Systems Administrator/Programmer | cheerfully as when they do it from
The Fuller Brush Company | religious conviction. -- Pascal
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: vi-like editor
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 10:56:10 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <wnkZI_K00iWW02wt40@andrew.cmu.edu>
References: <5ptcua$fsh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <5ptcua$fsh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 8-Jul-97 vi-like editor by
tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk
> I'm a SPARC vi user who has recently moved to NEXTSTEP 3.0
> There are many handy features of vi which are not supported
> in Edit, TeXEdit &c. such as jumping words, jumping to the
> end of a line with keystrokes only.
Alt-f skips words forward. Ctl-e jumps to end-of-line. Almost all of
the standard emacs bindings work fine when the "Emacs keybindings"
preferences option is enabled.
> I do not use emacs and I would like to know if there are any editors for
> NeXT which are vi-like but which have a point-and-click feel also?
First, there is /usr/ucb/vi. That's as vi-like as it comes.
Secondly, if you want a vi-like editor which interacts well with the
mouse, your best bet is probably to get the Emacs-for-NEXTSTEP package
on the standard NeXT FTP archives, and do a 'Meta-x vip-mode'. (Ctl-h
for help; try Ctl-h m for the mode-specific bindings and/or check out
Ctl-h i for the info pages.)
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer
----------------+---------------------+---------------------
I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with OpenStep 4.2 installation for Intel
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 07:24:59 -0800
Organization: EdgeMedia Networks
Message-ID: <erich-0807970724590001@ppp-207-104-16-1.snrf01.pacbell.net>
Hello,
I just received my copy of OpenStep 4.2 and am puzzled at what to do next
(No pun intendead). Everything installs fine upto the actual configuration
of the system. After the system installs the essential files, and the
computer reboots, a panel comes up saying (with a progress bar) that it is
configuring drivers.
This is as far as the installation gets. From here on out, the progress
bar doesnt move and nothing happens on the computer. I tried checking
whether my hardware was setup contrary to what NeXT wanted, wasn't wrong
at all.
I have an IDE harddisk and an IDE CD-ROM. I dont think that these are the
problems though. Remember everything gets installed, its just booting up
that sucks.
-Thanks Alot!
Eric Harley
erich@powerwareintl.com
From: Jim.Vancheri@mci.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Openstep/Win95 Dual Boot
Date: 8 Jul 1997 14:13:27 GMT
Organization: MCI Telecommunications Colorado Springs, CO
Message-ID: <5pthu7$fm5@ss2.cs.mci.com>
References: <33BA8C99.F08@facstaff.wisc.edu> <5ps8ht$l98@fridge-nf0.shore.net>
Cc: hazmat@shore.net
In <5ps8ht$l98@fridge-nf0.shore.net> Ken W wrote:
> david minor <dhminor@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
> dm> Hi--I'm a Next newbie, so sorry if this is a stupid question, but:
>
> dm> I am supporting a user who has an IBM Thinkpad. We have Openstep 4.1
> dm> installed on a @700meg partition and Win95 on a @300meg partition.
> dm> Openstep runs fine, Win95 runs fine, BUT, we are not getting a good
> dm> option as far as booting. At the moment if we want to boot to Win95 we
> dm> have to run fdisk and set that as the active partition; ditto for
> dm> Openstep.
>
> dm> Is there a setting that we need to change/turn on so that we can be
> dm> prompted on booting for the correct partition? The fdisk option is
> dm> really a pain.
>
David,
Boot the machine in OpenStep, log in as root and then in a terminal window
type the following command:
disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a (or whatever your boot device
is)
When you reboot you will be prompted to launch either OpenStep or DOS.
JV
From: bozack@blkbox.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: application icon
Date: 8 Jul 1997 16:50:29 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <5ptr4l$q2b@news.blkbox.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
NNTP-Posting-User: bjQomIKz
is there a way to change the icon of an application (and hopefully even the
files associated with that application) if you don't have the source?
i'd like to change the icon MMP uses and that of the files that are
associated with it (just *.mp3 for now).
thanks,
dan
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] CD Player & OmniCD
Date: 8 Jul 1997 18:50:17 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <5pu259$7je@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <5pq2hb$gu@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
In article <5pq2hb$gu@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de
(Juergen Grieb) writes:
> Jin Ko wrote in <5pplao$cl6$1@news.nuri.net> on 1997-07-07 04:46:48
+0200:
> > When I play a Audio CD with CD-Player or OmniCD, the CD runs
> > -- I can hear the sound from the jack on the player directly --
> > but no sound from the sound jack of my laptop.
> As far as I know you have to connect your CD-ROM directly to your
> soundcard.
Works for most SCSI systems. EIDE/ATAPI doesn't work, as far as I know.
> But I think you better don't play audio CDs on Intel hardware. I
> get system panics on a regular basis when I do so.
Never had any problems here, for either blank OR white hardware.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK)
Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr (Francois BIENTZ)
Subject: Differents version of EOF 2.0 on Mach 4.1/Intel ORACLE 7
Message-ID: <1997Jul7.204025.296@xenicos.fdn.fr>
Keywords: EOF Oracle license violation
Sender: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual.
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 20:40:25 GMT
I tried to install the Enterprise Objects Examples.
On the Oracle 7.3 server I created the users Movies and Rentals.
Configuring the Example Models works.But the populating the databases with
the install_database tools stops : License violation ...Multiple
Connections ...
Are there differents EOF 2.0 licenses for MachOS 4.1/Intel ??
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Prolog for NeXTStation?
Date: 8 Jul 1997 20:26:27 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Message-ID: <5pu7pj$ich$1@abel.ic.sunysb.edu>
References: <5p60ci$30k$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw>
Cc: u8222015@cc.nctu.edu.tw
In <5p60ci$30k$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw> Spencer Yu wrote:
> Hi I am looking for a Prolog interpreter for my NeXTStaion...where
> can I find a free one? I would prefer one with GUI but anything will do
> thanx!
>
XSB Prolog is freely available and runs on NeXT, a number of Unix platforms,
as well as on DOS/Windows systems. Check out:
http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~sbprolog
or send mail to xsb-contact@cs.sunysb.edu.
-Richard Larson
From: Wilfried Beeck <wbeeck@intershop.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,intershop.internal.misc
Subject: WTB: Lotus Improv 2.0 for Windows
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 20:31:56 +0200
Organization: Intershop Communications GmbH
Message-ID: <33C2879C.1647081@intershop.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
We're looking for english, german and french versions of Lotus Improv
2.0 for Windows (not for NEXTSTEP).
Unfortunately Lotus is not selling the product anymore, but maybe
someone still has a package that he/she wants to sell.
Please contact our local offices:
Intershop Communications USA
1-415-373-1530, Arne Dreslar
Intershop Communications France
+33.1.463.40.523, Sven Lung
Intershop Communications Germany
+49-40-38023-0, Wilfried Beeck
or mail to me at wbeeck@intershop.de
Thanks
Wilfried Beeck
Intershop Communications GmbH
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CD-Recordable writing software for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 8 Jul 1997 19:09:03 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <5pu38f$h74$1@tribune.mayo.edu>
Anyone know of a software package that allows burning of CDs under
NEXTSTEP? I'd like to make a durable archival backup of some data on
NEXTSTEP partitions on a stand alone machine.
Thanks
--
Ray Ghanbari
Mayo Foundation
ray@mayo.edu
From: marcel@system.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Icongrabber ?
Date: 8 Jul 1997 21:56:49 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <5pud31$94u$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <5pt6ha$dt3$1@concorde.ctp.com>
In article <5pt6ha$dt3$1@concorde.ctp.com>
tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) writes:
[app that grabs file icons]
That was a good cue, so I re-created the app under OpenStep/Mach 4.2.
I'll try to get it on the archies ASAP.
Marcel
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ?
Date: 8 Jul 1997 23:47:38 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <5pujiq$377$1@gaea.omnigroup.com>
References: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com>
tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I realized that OmniWeb 2.6b is out... but is it worth upgrading ? What did
> change...there is currently no info on Omnis web pages which usually show
the
> release notes.
>
> Any idea ?
OmniWeb 2.6b2 is an early beta that wasn't actually intended for public
release. We put it on our ftp site for testing by a specific client -
apparently someone grabbed it from there and posted it to at least one
of the archive sites. Feel free to use it, but keep in mind that we
don't consider it a releasable beta yet and we will not be supporting
it. We will be releasing a version intended for public testing in the
very near future.
To answer your question about what's new: the major difference is that
tables with lots of simple unformatted text cells are faster. Not
breathtakingly so, but noticeably so. (At this point, however, these
fast table cells lack features such as find, selection, copy/past, etc.
- these features are planned for a future beta.)
When the official beta is released, I strongly encourage you to test it
and provide your feedback as 2.6 is anticipated to be the last version
for NEXTSTEP - the next version will be 3.0, which will be for Rhapsody
(and possibly some of the pre-Rhapsody versions of OPENSTEP).
--
andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: application icon
Date: 8 Jul 1997 23:11:13 GMT
Organization: The PEAK ftp site for OpenStep and NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <5puheh$8b9$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
References: <5ptr4l$q2b@news.blkbox.com>
bozack@blkbox.com wrote:
>is there a way to change the icon of an application (and hopefully even the
>files associated with that application) if you don't have the source?
>
>i'd like to change the icon MMP uses and that of the files that are
>associated with it (just *.mp3 for now).
Sure, if you have the dev tools and segedit.
Checkout SegHoarker.app ... or if you want, I've got a script to do this.
Usually it is a two step process, extract the old, replace it with a new.
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
--
TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: architectura@mindspring.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: networking problems: Mac<->SGI<->NeXT 68k
Date: 9 Jul 1997 02:21:35 GMT
Organization: Architectura
Message-ID: <architectura-0807972122250001@user-2k7i3bn.dialup.mindspring.com>
We recently obtained a Color Turbo NextStation from Deepspace and hope to
use it as a file and mail server and PostScript editor.
I found a section (Chapter 11 of the System Administrator's Manual:
Mixed Networks) in the on-line documentation (NS 3.3 was pre-installed and
appears to be slightly incomplete) which explains that AppleTalk
connectivity is a simple matter of activating a single check box beneath
an apple icon in the preferences app.
Problem #1: there is no apple icon in my preferences app. Does this
mean that something was not installed, or merely that I've not set the
computer up correctly?
Connecting NeXT black hardware to UNIX machines should, according to the
documentation, be similarly straightforward. Neither the NeXT nor the SGI
will acknowledge the physical existence of a 10BaseT network connection.
Problem #2: The machines are all physically connected through a
DaynaStar 10BaseT hub, but the Macs are the only ones talking.
I would appreciate any suggestions!
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Rob Blessin? Blackhole, Inc? Where are you?
Date: 9 Jul 1997 01:34:30 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <5pupr6$bdl@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
References: <5pf6ib$qrv@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>
In-Reply-To: <5pf6ib$qrv@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>
Hello Vicky and NeXT/Apple Community:
Black Hole , Incorporated is located at
http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ ...
I'm currently importing these from Europe and selling them for $319
and Shipping, but NACSCORP is sending out the academic authorization
packet and I may be able to qualify to resell Openstep Academic to
everyone without having to go through the import process, thank you
P&L Systems for helping with the importing process... I can use
everybodys support on this one ... my cost of goods sold after
importing the bundles is about $307 so I'm obviously not in it for
the money, especially when you consider the credit card companies
charge 2.5% so thats around $315.
You can help by dropping me an email saying that you support Black
Hole, Incorporated's endeavor and effort to qualify and sell academic
products to academic customers, I'll include the responses in my
report to the NACSCORP and Apple review committee's, I've been doing
this 4 + years and look forward to continue doing it for the good of
the community...I show a profit and keep the lights turned on of
course by selling into the commercial market, 3rd party applications
and hardware and can only hope that Openstep/Rhapsody will excel after
you all graduate and promote it with in your future employment
endeavors and opportunities. I'm also looking to start recruiting for
companies seeking qualified Openstep candidates!
Thanks to all of the professors that continue to support the best
software on the planet!
Appreciate your business and have a great day!
Please let me know how your using Openstep and if you have a need for
anything else NeXT related!
Best regards:
Rob Blessin
President
Black Hole, Incorporated
748 Poplar St.
Denver , CO 80220
303-393-6419
303-320-0949
http://www.blackholeinc.com/
"NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte
Magazine
Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
On 07/02/97 in the group comp.sys.next.software you wrote:
>I e-mailed Rob Blessin (Blackhole, Inc.) to purchase OpenStep 4.2 but
>my message bounced back. I can try purchase through the bookstore,
>but that usually takes forever, at least in our college. Any other
>suggestions?
>
>Thanks.
>Vicki Bragin
>--
>**********************************************************
> Victoria M. Bragin E-mail: vbragin@ix.netcom.com
> Associate Professor of Chemistry, Physical Sciences Division
> Pasadena City College, 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA
> Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919
>**********************************************************
>
>
--
Best regards:
Rob Blessin
President
Black Hole, Incorporated
748 Poplar St.
Denver , CO 80220
303-393-6419
303-320-0949
http://www.blackholeinc.com/
"NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine
Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
From: Damn Yankee<damnyankee@yankee.inc>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Yankee Inc.
Subject: !!!Hello!!!
Message-ID: <33c0b845.1@nntp.kalnet.net>
Date: 7 Jul 97 09:35:01 GMT
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b ?
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 14:05:06 -0400
Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970708135716.2283B-100000@peace>
References: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: Thomas Engel <tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
In-Reply-To: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com>
On 8 Jul 1997, Thomas Engel wrote:
> I realized that OmniWeb 2.6b is out... but is it worth upgrading ? What did
> change...there is currently no info on Omnis web pages which usually show the
> release notes.
2._6_ is out? I must have missed that. Where did you see it?
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
--
TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: cunningham@medicalrounds.com[nospam] (Ken Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: AppleTalk support in OS 4.x?
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 22:42:13 -0800
Organization: Ken Cunningham, MD, Inc.
Message-ID: <cunningham-ya02408000R0807972242130001@news.direct.ca>
References: <01bc8626$443da0a0$e91c2cc7@Die_Bill_Gates.pcdocs.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In article <01bc8626$443da0a0$e91c2cc7@Die_Bill_Gates.pcdocs.com>, "Greg
Meece" <gregm@pcdocs.com> wrote:
> I have the "Prelude to Rhapsody" release (AKA 4.2) for Intel. The SysAdmin
> manual says there's support for AppleTalk (and even details configuring
> it), but I can't find a driver or install package anywhere on the CD or on
> my HD after the install. Does NeXT still support this?
>
Download a package called "Caper v8" from any Next FTP site. It has all the
Appletalk functionality in it, is free, and works like a hot tamale!
You can find Next FTP sites at www.omnigroup.com.
Ken
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From: jin@ghost.nuri.net (Jin Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] What's the best X server in Step?
Date: 9 Jul 1997 06:33:18 GMT
Organization: HanNuri Internet Service
Message-ID: <5pvbbe$7ku$1@news.nuri.net>
What's the best X server for NEXTSTEP?
I tried Xnext but I'm not so satisfied with it for it's slower than
I expected.
Please recommend me any cool X server better(faster :-) )
than Xnext even if comercial.
Thanx.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
mailto:jin@nuri.net (NeXTMail OK) Jin Ko
http://ghost.nuri.net/ Network Engineer
phone:+82-2-531-7924 (fax:+82-2-555-8127) Inet, Inc.
From: "M. Andrew Minkin" <archaeusds@rocketmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cross-Platform Floppy Formatting Utilty
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 01:29:39 +0000
Organization: Archaeus Design Systems
Message-ID: <33C2E97C.270D@rocketmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have the 266_EIDE.pkg from NeXT and would like to put it on a floppy
that the Mach kernel installation will read, but I only have a Power Mac
6100/60 and a P133 with 24MB running Win95 ( I tried installing OpenStep
Enterprise but I couldn't run anything).
Any suggestions?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <ED0rvC.ILA@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 21:33:12 GMT
References: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <Michael Giddings> wrote:
>I too am contemplating this. We have a number of people interested in seeing
>our OpenStep based software on Solaris. Any advice or info related to
>experiences with OS/Solaris would be appreciated.
>
I played with it briefly on a Sparc 10 running Solaris 2.4. It was *painful*
since the machine had only 32MB RAM. I intend to try it on our Ultra 1 when I
get the chance.
Apart from the speed and the fact that the fonts were a little ugly it was
fairly nice.
--
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Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Kris Jacobs<jtsnake@serv01.net-link.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Jake's Home Brew
Subject: Try Me!
Message-ID: <33c1fb16.0@nntp.kalnet.net>
Date: 8 Jul 97 08:32:22 GMT
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I am looking forward to hearing from you soon!!!
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http://www.net-link.net/~jtsnake/
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From: tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: newsreaders
Date: 9 Jul 1997 12:12:51 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
I am an ex 'tin' user and am now on 'Alexandra. The layout of 'Alexandra'
is fine except for the fact that it doesn't appear to nest threads but
lists them in a seemingly random order. So part of a thread could end up
several articles down.
Also, the find command doesn't work and so finding authors/articles is very
difficult.
I may be missing the obvious. I would use Help but it stops short of
anything useful.
Thanks,
--
thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university;
tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678;
http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 for zero entropy.
From: liuyi@dragon-dance.com (Yi Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreaders
Date: 9 Jul 1997 13:37:11 GMT
Organization: 9h, Inc.
Message-ID: <D23D1128591C7B64.E7ACCC6F33231DCC.ACBE36051C239B7F@library-proxy.airnews.net>
References: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net
On 9 Jul 1997 12:12:51 GMT, tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> I am an ex 'tin' user and am now on 'Alexandra. The layout of 'Alexandra'
> is fine except for the fact that it doesn't appear to nest threads but
> lists them in a seemingly random order. So part of a thread could end up
> several articles down.
Alexandra is not a threaded newsreader.
If you liked 'tin', you might want to try 'slrn'. An ex 'trn' user, I
don't miss 'trn' at all ever since I switched to 'slrn', which is a
fast and threaded reader that comes with its own extension language,
for the fanatics.
The lastest version compiles out of the box on NS3.3/OS4.1, and can be
found at ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/slrn. You'd have to compile
slang first. Just follow the instructions in the README.
liuyi
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From: "H. Blakely Williford" <blakew@fuller.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Update: Moveing lotus improv files from black h/w to lotus wk# format.
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 07:47:03 -0500
Organization: The Fuller Brush Company
Message-ID: <33C38847.435940BD@fuller.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The improv SaveAS option produces a file called <filename>.wk4.imp
This file is unreadable from lotus 1-2-3.
Lotus Improv
Release 1.0 - x108_0
Jan 23, 1991
thank you again for your time.
--
H. Blakely Williford | Men never do evil so completely and
Systems Administrator/Programmer | cheerfully as when they do it from
The Fuller Brush Company | religious conviction. -- Pascal
From: Mario Illgen <Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreaders
Date: 9 Jul 1997 13:48:44 GMT
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
Message-ID: <5q04rs$rc$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
References: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote:
>I am an ex 'tin' user and am now on 'Alexandra. The layout of 'Alexandra'
>is fine except for the fact that it doesn't appear to nest threads but
>lists them in a seemingly random order. So part of a thread could end up
>several articles down.
>
A workaround is to sort the articles by subject (Article->Sort->By Subject)
Ciao, Mario
--
Mario Illgen, TU Chemnitz-Zwickau
"I laughed in the mirror for the first time in a year..."
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there?
Date: 9 Jul 1997 17:11:02 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <5q0gn6$gu1$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
References: <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <5pgn8n$kgj@crcnis3.unl.edu>
rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote:
> In article <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
> Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com writes:
> > godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote:
> > Too bad my personal web pages look like crap under OmniWeb (but good
> > under Netscape)
>
> Too bad your personal web pages use bad html then. (-; (I didn't really
> see anything that looked like "crap" with OmniwWeb at the address in your
> sig -- http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck )
> Really, in my experience, pages that look different in NS (and MSIE) than
> OmniWeb usually mean you've used poor html somewhere.
>
> > and that OmniWeb is pretty slow...
>
> It's a bit slower, but that's attributable to the fact that it renders
> tables slowly. Other than that, it's not bad, speedwise.
Actually it's this web page: www.public.usit.net/echuck
And it doesn't look as bad in OmniWeb 2.5 as it did in whatever previous version I had been using.
As far as "bad html" goes I always end up using "bad html" in order to get my page "right". i.e., standard html
just isn't enough. Since most people use Netscape anyway I tailor my pages for that. Maybe that's not
"technically right", but it's certainly what I find practical.
There must be something special about my config then because OmniWeb runs quite a bit slower than Netscape 3.01.
In any case, there are just too many pages that look better under Netscape than under OmniWeb. www.hotbot.com
and www.finalbell.com (which causes OmniWeb to display HTML source) are two of them.
As I told the author of OmniWeb, we need something that replaces HTML that's more along the lines of a desktop
publishing language where "what you want is what you get". This idea of "browser knows best how to display the
info" just doesn't work in practice. Tags like <font> and <body bgcolor=> etc. are just evidence of that.
-Chuck
--
Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Orca Computer, Inc. / 1800 Kraft Dr. Suite 111 / Blacksburg, VA 24060
From: Steve Dekorte <dekorte@slip.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris
Date: 9 Jul 1997 17:53:40 GMT
Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net)
Message-ID: <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net>
References: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu> <ED0rvC.ILA@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
> In article <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <Michael Giddings> wrote:
> >our OpenStep based software on Solaris. Any advice or info related to
> >experiences with OS/Solaris would be appreciated.
Sun has not done such a great job with OpenStep on Solaris.
The last time I saw it, porting an OpenStep Mach app to OpenStep Solaris
was not trivial and simultaniously maintaining Solaris and non-Solaris
versions looked painfull.
If you want to run custom OpenStep GUI apps, I'd recommend running
OpenStep Mach for Sparc on those desktop Sun machines.
If you want to run custom servers written with Objective-C and the OpenStep
Foundation libs, EOF, WebObjects, or DO, then just install NeXT PDO for Sparc
on your Solaris boxes and you should be able to recompile your servers without
problems.
--
Steve Dekorte - OpenStep consultant - San Francisco
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreaders
Date: 9 Jul 1997 18:01:28 GMT
Organization: WolfWare
Message-ID: <5q0jlo$67h$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net>
References: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <D23D1128591C7B64.E7ACCC6F33231DCC.ACBE36051C239B7F@library-proxy.airnews.net>
In-Reply-To: <D23D1128591C7B64.E7ACCC6F33231DCC.ACBE36051C239B7F@library-proxy.airnews.net>
On 07/08/97, Yi Liu wrote:
>On 9 Jul 1997 12:12:51 GMT, tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > I am an ex 'tin' user and am now on 'Alexandra. The layout of 'Alexandra'
> > is fine except for the fact that it doesn't appear to nest threads but
> > lists them in a seemingly random order. So part of a thread could end up
> > several articles down.
>
>Alexandra is not a threaded newsreader.
NewsFlash from WolfWare is a threaded newsreader (displays articles "nested"
under the article they are replying too) with a graphical user interface. You
can download a free evaluation copy and see screen-shots of the threading at
www.wolfware.com.
- Chris
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer
For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader
visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com
_______________________________________________________________________
From: marcel@system.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there?
Date: 9 Jul 1997 18:34:32 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <5q0ljo$du1$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <5q0gn6$gu1$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In article <5q0gn6$gu1$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com writes:
[...]
> www.finalbell.com (which causes OmniWeb to display HTML source)
The part that OmniWeb displays as source is not even HTML! It just
looks a little like it...
> This idea of "browser knows best how to display the
> info" just doesn't work in practice.
It works great for what it was intended: display of INFORMATION.
Of course, the Web today has little or nothing to do with that
original intent. Sigh.
Marcel
From: thompson@filoli.com (Peter Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CD-Recordable writing software for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 9 Jul 1997 18:37:03 GMT
Organization: Relax, don't worry! Have a homebrew!
Message-ID: <5q0lof$ark$1@news.filoli.com>
References: <5pu38f$h74$1@tribune.mayo.edu>
In-Reply-To: <5pu38f$h74$1@tribune.mayo.edu>
On 07/08/97, Ray Ghanbari wrote:
>
>
>Anyone know of a software package that allows burning of CDs under
>NEXTSTEP? I'd like to make a durable archival backup of some data on
>NEXTSTEP partitions on a stand alone machine.
Yes, try CDDesigner - it can be found on the peak or peanuts ftp
sites, or at the home site of the developers:
http://ip-service.com/Gehle
I bought the personal version, and have had no trouble with it at all.
It handles both data and audio quite nicely.
Peter
--
**************************************************************************
Peter Thompson ---- thompson@filoli.com ---- Filoli Information Systems.
**************************************************************************
From: info@scribex.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreaders
Date: 9 Jul 1997 18:34:51 GMT
Organization: VTL
Message-ID: <5q0lkb$ktg$1@wagner.videotron.net>
References: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Perhaps you should consider using NewsFlash.
It's only US$45, and very much worth its small price.
Check it out at http://www.scribex.com
-Andre
=============================================
On 07/09/97, tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote:
> I am an ex 'tin' user and am now on 'Alexandra. The layout of
'Alexandra'
> is fine except for the fact that it doesn't appear to nest threads
but
> lists them in a seemingly random order. So part of a thread could
end up
> several articles down.
>
> Also, the find command doesn't work and so finding authors/articles
is very
> difficult.
>
> I may be missing the obvious. I would use Help but it stops short of
> anything useful.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university;
> tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678;
> http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 for zero entropy.
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty)
Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris
Message-ID: <cdoutyED2I89.Bq0@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom On-Line Services
References: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu> <ED0rvC.ILA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:00:09 GMT
Sender: cdouty@netcom13.netcom.com
In article <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net>,
Steve Dekorte <dekorte@slip.net> wrote:
>> In article <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <Michael Giddings> wrote:
>> >our OpenStep based software on Solaris. Any advice or info related to
>> >experiences with OS/Solaris would be appreciated.
>
>Sun has not done such a great job with OpenStep on Solaris.
>The last time I saw it, porting an OpenStep Mach app to OpenStep Solaris
>was not trivial and simultaniously maintaining Solaris and non-Solaris
>versions looked painfull.
>
>If you want to run custom OpenStep GUI apps, I'd recommend running
>OpenStep Mach for Sparc on those desktop Sun machines.
OpenStep Solaris is rather painful, but like another correspondent I only
have a 32MB Sparc 10. It does look an awful like the NS 3.3 desktop
though and is a good alternative to CDE.
My big complaint with running OS Mach for Sparc is that it does not
support UltraSPARC boxes. This leaves only the SPARC station 5 as
current production platform. If you have a lot of SPARC 10's and 20's
then you are probably OK. I really doubt that Apple is going to port to
the Ultra line anytime soon with either Rhapsody or old Mach.
_I'd_ like to hear experiences with PDO.
--
Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software
cdouty@netcom.com
"Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated
according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic
aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: mann@nautilus.weblab.rest.tasc.com (John Mann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris
Date: 10 Jul 1997 00:48:53 GMT
Organization: TASC
Message-ID: <5q1bhl$n7t@lois.Read.TASC.COM>
References: <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net>
In article <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net> Steve Dekorte <dekorte@slip.net>
writes:
> > In article <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <Michael Giddings>
wrote:
> > >our OpenStep based software on Solaris. Any advice or info related
to
> > >experiences with OS/Solaris would be appreciated.
>
> Sun has not done such a great job with OpenStep on Solaris.
> The last time I saw it, porting an OpenStep Mach app to OpenStep Solaris
> was not trivial and simultaniously maintaining Solaris and non-Solaris
> versions looked painfull.
>
> If you want to run custom OpenStep GUI apps, I'd recommend running
> OpenStep Mach for Sparc on those desktop Sun machines.
>
> If you want to run custom servers written with Objective-C and the
OpenStep
> Foundation libs, EOF, WebObjects, or DO, then just install NeXT PDO for
Sparc
> on your Solaris boxes and you should be able to recompile your servers
without
> problems.
>
> --
> Steve Dekorte - OpenStep consultant - San Francisco
In reference to running custom Apps, be careful. I called Apple and they
told me there are no plans to release a version of OpenStep that runs on
Ultra SPARC machines. You'll have to settle for slower servers with no
opportunity for upgrade.
I am currently running Solaris and OpenStep (separately) on a SPARC4. I
would like to upgrade the chasis to UltraSPARC, but would have to run
'Solaris only' after the upgrade. Since I have already purchased
Developer software for OpenStep, I cannot afford the complementary
Workshop for Solaris; its a 'home' system.
Also, Linux is available for SPARC. But, at present, GNUStep cannot offer
the same capability. So, it seems the options are rather limited.
From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Christian Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ?
Date: 10 Jul 1997 02:21:41 GMT
Organization: Bitstream Underground
Message-ID: <5q1gvl$nd9$1@maryj.bitstream.net>
References: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com> <5pujiq$377$1@gaea.omnigroup.com>
In-Reply-To: <5pujiq$377$1@gaea.omnigroup.com>
On 07/08/97, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote:
>OmniWeb 2.6b2 is an early beta that wasn't actually intended for
>public release.[...] Feel free to use it, but keep in mind that we
>don't consider it a releasable beta yet and we will not be supporting
>it.
Listen to him! I gave it a try (the N version), and it's, ah... a
little rough around the edges. The Console reported something about
loading a "Japanese decoder" or some such thing, and then the browser
would not load anything... not even the local, "Welcome", start page.
Chastened, I'll stick with 2.5 for now!
>When the official beta is released, I strongly encourage you to test
>it and provide your feedback as 2.6 is anticipated to be the last
>version for NEXTSTEP
Alas, say it ain't so!
--
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Chris Jensen
cejensen@bitstream.net
MIME, NeXTMail OK
From: Damn Yankee<damnyankee@yankee.inc>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Yankee Inc.
Subject: I Am Very Sorry!!!
Message-ID: <33c2597d.1@nntp.kalnet.net>
Date: 8 Jul 97 15:15:09 GMT
I would like to apologise to this newsgroup and everyone who reads this newsgroup!!! I promise never to post or send spam to this or any other newsgroup that does not pertain to my posting!!! Please accept my humble apology and again I will never post spam here again!!! Thank You!!!
Andrew Schero
yank714@kalnet.net
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris
Date: 10 Jul 1997 05:14:34 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va.
Message-ID: <5q1r3q$qhq@portal.gmu.edu>
References: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> <ED0rvC.ILA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net> <cdoutyED2I89.Bq0@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Question for folks in this thread, I have heard there's a cg3 hack
out there somewhere for Sol OpenStep. Does anyone know where I can
find it?
Thanks much,
Tim
--
____________________________________________________________________________
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don't like them, don't read them. They don't reflect anything other
than sheer opinion at best, on a good day, with a tailwind.
From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Please Help! Pulling hair out over install
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 23:53:48 -0800
Organization: EdgeMedia Networks
Message-ID: <erich-0907972353490001@ppp-207-104-16-26.snrf01.pacbell.net>
Ive about had it with the OpenStep 4.2 install.
I am using a generic PC motherboard with an AMD chip. I am using the EIDE
sockets on the board to connect my HD and CD-ROM.
I have tried everything under the sun to get this thing running OpenStep
4.2 and time after time the install DIES at the exact same point.
I have tried using the -v and -s at the boot: prompt.
I just dont get why it wont work. I called up NeXT support and they said
it was the EIDE interface on my board, well I turned that off and used an
EIDE card that I had laying around and that didn't work either!
Can somebody out there that has installed OpenStep 4.2 onto an IDE HD with
an ATAPI CDROM please give me some hints and clues as to what to do?
Please?
Is it me? Am I doing something wrong? Should I upgrade to SCSI?
Well, I am completing another Phase 1 install. My fingers are crossed that
this works.
Oh, I really hope this works!
Thanks.
====================
Eric H.
erich@powerwareintl.com
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From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ?
Date: 10 Jul 1997 12:44:29 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University
Message-ID: <5q2lfd$r9g@news.tamu.edu>
References: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com> <5pujiq$377$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <5q1gvl$nd9$1@maryj.bitstream.net>
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> On 07/08/97, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote:
> >OmniWeb 2.6b2 is an early beta that wasn't actually intended for
> >public release.[...] Feel free to use it, but keep in mind that we
> >don't consider it a releasable beta yet and we will not be supporting
> >it.
>
> Listen to him! I gave it a try (the N version), and it's, ah... a
> little rough around the edges. The Console reported something about
> loading a "Japanese decoder" or some such thing, and then the browser
> would not load anything... not even the local, "Welcome", start page.
>
> Chastened, I'll stick with 2.5 for now!
>
Really? I've found 2.6b2 to be rather stable for my use. Tables are definitely faster ;-) Startup seems faster too. In particular checking if some bookmarked pages have been updated seems much faster. I did see that Japanese decoder thing too in the console panel though.
Looking forward to the "official" 2.6 beta release.
blue skies,
Hanspeter Schaub
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu>
Subject: Re: Update: Moveing lotus improv files from black h/w to lotus wk# format.
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 07:47:03 CDT."
<33C38847.435940BD@fuller.com>
Message-ID: <199707101354.JAA10027@micro.cs.rochester.edu>
Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger)
Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:54:45 -0400
"H. Blakely Williford" wrote:
>The improv SaveAS option produces a file called <filename>.wk4.imp
>
>This file is unreadable from lotus 1-2-3.
>
>Lotus Improv
>Release 1.0 - x108_0
>Jan 23, 1991
[...]
I'm using the same version of Improv on my slab. In the Save-As
dialogue box, there's a file-type pop-up button beneath the text field
containing the filename. Click on it and choose either wk1 or wk3.
You'll get another dialogue box asking about various conversion
parameters. Once you click the "Export" button there, you're done.
There is no support for wk4 format as far as I can tell.
--Eric
---
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Dept. of Computer Science Office: +1-716-275-0922; Lab: +1-716-275-1083
University of Rochester Fax: +1-716-461-2018
Rochester, NY 14627-0226 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/ringger/
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From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb & SSL
Date: 10 Jul 1997 15:51:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <5q30dn$ahp@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>
I'd like to get OmniWeb to accept my self signed certificates. Is
this possible? Is there any documentation on how to do this?
I'm running an Apache 1.2 server with SSL patch and SSLeay 0.6.6.
Everything works great from Win95 using both Explorer and Navigator,
but OmniWeb will not load a certificate with the CGI script I use
to load Explorer and Navigator.
--
Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from
Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was
# armed; his successors, since they avoided
far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private
(NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes.
(MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: Peter Aamodt <aamodtpw@cco.caltech.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Update: Moveing lotus improv files from black h/w to lotus wk# format.
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:53:56 -0700
Organization: Caltech
Message-ID: <33C50594.3DD7@cco.caltech.edu>
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H. Blakely Williford wrote:
>
> The improv SaveAS option produces a file called <filename>.wk4.imp
>
> This file is unreadable from lotus 1-2-3.
>
> Lotus Improv
> Release 1.0 - x108_0
> Jan 23, 1991
>
> thank you again for your time.
>
> --
> H. Blakely Williford | Men never do evil so completely and
> Systems Administrator/Programmer | cheerfully as when they do it from
> The Fuller Brush Company | religious conviction. -- Pascal
In Lotus Improv, you can save an .imp file as either a
.wk1 or a .wk3 file. There is no .wk4 option because
Improv came out before that format ever existed.
You can't simply rename the extension, either - your file
is still in Improv format. There is a little pulldown
menu for the other file formats where it shows the format
you're saving as (.imp is the default). Good luck.
Peter Aamodt
Caltech
From: "David J. Hinners" <david@mistinc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TIME & Attendance SOFTWARE
Date: 10 Jul 1997 16:35:59 GMT
Organization: M.I.S.T., Inc.
Message-ID: <01bc8d4f$5528c7c0$13003282@dhinners>
I am looking for a time and attendance package that would include employee
time cards with either magnetic media or barcoding. I have heard of
something called Symplex system but can not find any information. If
anyone can help it would be appreciated.
E-mail David@mistinc.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there?
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:49:04 -0700
Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970710104250.21991B-100000@kira>
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In-Reply-To: <5q0gn6$gu1$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
On 9 Jul 1997 Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com wrote:
> As far as "bad html" goes I always end up using "bad html" in order to
> get my page "right". i.e., standard html just isn't enough. Since most
> people use Netscape anyway I tailor my pages for that. Maybe that's not
> "technically right", but it's certainly what I find practical.
This is a strange definition of 'right'.
I consider a page to be done 'right' when it can be navigated on any
browser which knows the official HTML tagsets.
If you have to tailor it for NetScrape, then it isn't right.
If this is what you find practical, then perhaps we should forget any HTML
standards and let NetScape and MI decide for themselves what they want
HTML tags to look like, and then we can go back to proprietary documents
that can only be read on certain machines.
As for me, I think the beauty of HTML is/was that I make my pages using an
ascii text editor (I used Edit.app for mine) and anyone anywhere can read
them. Ok frames were hard for lynx for awhile, but there were tags for
nongraphical browsers, and lynx now even has a way of handing frames pages
without <NOFRAME> tags.
TjL
ps -- sorry for any latent Hebrew anxiety/aggression which has come forth
in this post... I've got my first exam tomorrow.... why am I reading
Usenet anyway???
--
TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html
"Everything is easy when you know what you are doing."
- Dr Robert Cupper, Department of CS, Allegheny College
From: dave@tlogic.com (David Aylesworth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb & SSL
Date: 10 Jul 1997 18:08:26 GMT
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
Message-ID: <5q38eq$6r5@camel12.mindspring.com>
References: <5q30dn$ahp@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>
OmniWeb does not care about self-signed certificates like Netscape and
Internet Explorer do. You do not need to install CA certificates with the
x509-ca-cert MIME type.
-Dave
far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) wrote:
>
>I'd like to get OmniWeb to accept my self signed certificates. Is
>this possible? Is there any documentation on how to do this?
>
>I'm running an Apache 1.2 server with SSL patch and SSLeay 0.6.6.
>Everything works great from Win95 using both Explorer and Navigator,
>but OmniWeb will not load a certificate with the CGI script I use
>to load Explorer and Navigator.
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from
>Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was
> # armed; his successors, since they avoided
>far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private
>(NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes.
>(MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
David Aylesworth
Technologic, Inc
david.aylesworth@tlogic.com
770/522-0222 x228
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:14:26 -0600
From: Alan J. Roy <alanjroy@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Searching for an ISP who understand UNIX aka NeXT in NY City
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Message-ID: <868555363.27387@dejanews.com>
Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service
Yes! I called ATT and MCI and they only know about MS Windows
or Mac :^(
Could some kind soul leads me an ISP in the New York City
area.
Thanks
Alan
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
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From: randy97
Subject: http://www.love.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Message-ID: <33c52b4f.2@pgh.nauticom.net>
Date: 10 Jul 97 18:34:55 GMT
Looking to find people in your area that enjoy the same things
as this newsgroup?
Check out http://www.love.com
It's free, it's new, and it's awesome.
Rand
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Searching for an ISP who understand UNIX aka NeXT in NY City
Date: 10 Jul 1997 21:27:56 GMT
Organization: Dental Records (R)
Message-ID: <5q3k4s$2h6@news1-alterdial.uu.net>
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In <868555363.27387@dejanews.com> Alan J. Roy wrote:
> Yes! I called ATT and MCI and they only know about MS Windows
> or Mac :^(
>
> Could some kind soul leads me an ISP in the New York City
> area.
>
> Thanks
>
> Alan
>
> -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
>
www.precipice.com
--
Rick Sanford
Dental Records(R)
dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome
http://www.dentalrecords.com
From: bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu.nospam (keyser soze)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Yap on NS3.2 ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Jul 1997 21:50:51 GMT
Organization: Ice Station Zebra
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <bear-100797145207@macleec.llnl.gov>
I use to use a NeXT a lot when it was running NS2.0.
I really liked a program called Yap which was a
postscript previewer demo program.
I have picked up an old colorstation that is running
NS3.2 but there's no Yap on it.
Does Yap run under 3.2 ? If not, is there a comparable
interactive postscript interpreter like Yap ?
Thanks
Chris
From: pbm@ananas.usr.dsi.unimi.it (Paolo "Bussola" Marchiori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X-Windows
Date: 10 Jul 1997 16:51:23 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Message-ID: <5q33ub$sjt$1@pluto.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Hi people,
I work on three cubes, one with NS3 and two with NS2. I want to use 'em
as xterms, launching the xserver -query.
I've found a decent server with frontend (Xfe) for NS3 but it does'nt
works on the Ns2 cubes. I've an R4 server for NS2 but it hasn't frontend
and being R4 doesn't allow TCP fonts.
Does anybody knows if there are R6 servers for NS2, possibly with frontend
and good mouse driving (my server only sees ONE mouse button!) or, even better,
a server that stays in a NS window (X-Win32 like)?
I've tried to compile R6.3 with gcc 2.7.2.2 but it seems there's nothing
to do...
Please try to answer also via mail. Thanks in advance,
--Paolo
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From: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Questions about OS4/Intel
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:41:38 -0400
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services
Message-ID: <ibhan-1007972241380001@227.cambridge-002.ma.dial-access.att.net>
I'm considering getting a PC to run OpenStep/Rhapsody alongside my Mac
box. How much of a pain is it to get it to work on Intel hardware? I'm I
really much better off sticking with a new PowerMac box (my current 7100
won't run Rhapsody)?
Anyone doing MIDI with OpenSTEP on Intel? How well does it work?
Comments? Thoughts
--
--
Ishir Bhan (ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu)
http://www.digitas.harvard.edu/~ibhan
From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Questions about OS4/Intel (MIDI)
Date: 11 Jul 1997 06:05:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Message-ID: <5q4iev$l06$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au>
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In <ibhan-1007972241380001@227.cambridge-002.ma.dial-access.att.net> Ishir
Bhan wrote:
> Anyone doing MIDI with OpenSTEP on Intel? How well does it work?
>
> Comments? Thoughts
Performance wise, pretty damn well. Of course, not a lot of applications, but
those that are around are fairly complete: Sequence and Calliope,
SynthBuilder, Ensemble, the MusicKit for development etc. All of the above
are PD (SynthBuilder requires an academic license to Stanford). You'll need
an MPU-401 compatible interface and a DSP card if you want to do real-time
synthesis. I'm running comfortably on 150 and 166MHz Pentiums, but I've had
good results even on a 486DX2/66MHz
--
Leigh Computer Science, University of Western Australia
Smith +61-9-9380-3778 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME)
"Home pages are the pet rock of the 90s. We all have them, we all think
they're very cute. But in a few years we're going to look back and be
pretty embarrassed." -- Tony Shepps <toad@pond.com>
"Why wait?" -- Peter Langston
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Yap on NS3.2 ?
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:00:08 -0700
Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970710175950.21916J-100000@kira>
References: <bear-100797145207@macleec.llnl.gov>
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To: keyser soze <bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu.nospam>
In-Reply-To: <bear-100797145207@macleec.llnl.gov>
I've never used them but you might try
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/postscript/BeYap.1.21b.NI.b.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/postscript/BeYap.README
or
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/postscript/EnhancedYap.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
TjL
From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] What's the best X server in Step?
Date: 11 Jul 1997 09:01:04 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Message-ID: <5q4sog$oib$1@news.tudelft.nl>
References: <5pvbbe$7ku$1@news.nuri.net>
Jin Ko writes
>
> What's the best X server for NEXTSTEP?
>
> I tried Xnext but I'm not so satisfied with it for it's slower than
> I expected.
> Please recommend me any cool X server better(faster :-) )
> than Xnext even if comercial.
I tested CubXwindow from intuitivesystems and I liked it very much.
Furthermore they have committed to porting this X server to Rhapsody !
Look on the Net to find them.
_____________________________________________________________________
Abraham Guyt P.O.Box 356
Department of Information Systems 2600 AJ Delft
Faculty Technical Mathematics & Informatics The Netherlands
Delft University of Technology tel: +31 15 278 5969
E-mail: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl NeXT-mail welcome
From: iant@interpage.net (Ian Tait)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Courier/Despatch Software ?
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:34:37 GMT
Organization: Deliverence
Message-ID: <33c61907.2854342@newnews.demon.co.uk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone know of the existance of software specifically for courier
companies, that would provide for taking bookings and invoicing etc ?
Ian
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tell me about the future. Is OS-I obsolete?
Date: 11 Jul 1997 13:16:20 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <5q5bn4$7o$2@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
At some point I have to upgrade my black hardware.
Is OS for intel going to be alive and supported for long
enough to make it a worthwhile option? Is Rhapsody
going to support Intel hardware?
Tim
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Questions about OS4/Intel
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:27:33 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <MnlXH5u00iWl02FBA0@andrew.cmu.edu>
References: <ibhan-1007972241380001@227.cambridge-002.ma.dial-access.att.net>
In-Reply-To: <ibhan-1007972241380001@227.cambridge-002.ma.dial-access.att.net>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-Jul-97 Questions about
OS4/Intel by Ishir Bhan@student.med.h
> I'm considering getting a PC to run OpenStep/Rhapsody alongside my Mac
> box. How much of a pain is it to get it to work on Intel hardware?
That depends on whether you've got hardware supported by NeXT, and it
helps to have SCSI rather than EIDE/ATAPI. Look at
<URL=http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/NABrowse?/Compatibility_Guides>.
> I'm I really much better off sticking with a new PowerMac box (my
> current 7100 won't run Rhapsody)?
Not the initial DR1, true; however, I would imagine that a 7100 would
work just ine with the final release.
> Anyone doing MIDI with OpenSTEP on Intel? How well does it work?
Someone else already answered this one-- make sure to check out
Stanfords' CCRMA site <URL=http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/> for
SynthBuilder and the MusicKit.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer
----------------+---------------------+---------------------
I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: graphics in TeXView ?
Date: 11 Jul 1997 14:32:49 GMT
Organization: Cambridge University
Message-ID: <5q5g6h$s8u@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
How should graphics be included so that TeXView-grey can see them?
I usually use psfig but TeXView-grey can only display one or two figures
in a (moderately-sized) document before it starts to screw up the display
and shows text as stretched and unreadable and only displays the
bottom LH of the page and part of an included figure but all magnified
and....
It doesn't misbehave with text-only files. Anybody ever experience the same
thing and have a work-around?
Thanks,
--
thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university;
tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678;
http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 for zero entropy.
From: Paul WINDEY <windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: neomagic driver?
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:14:54 +0200
Organization: Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI)
Message-ID: <33C64DEE.694E7905@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
does anybody knows if there is a driver for the graphics chipset
NeoMagic NM 2093 which drives the display of the Thinkpad 380
(I believe it is also the display chip of some Dell portables)
Thanks
--
Paul Windey,
LPTHE
Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI)
Bte 126
4pl Jussieu
F-75252 Paris CEDEX 05, FRANCE
e-mail: windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr
tel: 33-01-4427 7456 (Secretariat: 4427 4121)
FAX: 33-01-4427 73 93
From: ftouhi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Majid Ftouhi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Print Just Add or Even Pages?
Date: 11 Jul 1997 16:09:40 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <5q5ls4$9gg@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
HI there:
I have LaserJet 5L , and i use GSPrintfilter.
Is there program that can select just add or even pages to print?
Is there something that can do the page numbering when i print some
document ?
Thanks in advance
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CD Quality sound into DSP
Date: 11 Jul 1997 09:34:25 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <5q5nah$fcl@slip.net>
Hi,
I have an 040/25 Cube and am interested
in packages which will allow one to record
CD-Sound into the NeXT DSP.
What packages aside from DigitalEars are
available? Of these, is DigitalEars the best
package available?
Thanks,
Emmett
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ?
Date: 11 Jul 1997 14:43:03 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de)
Message-ID: <5q5gpn$lkh@hal.nexttoyou.de>
References: <5q2lfd$r9g@news.tamu.edu>
In article <5q2lfd$r9g@news.tamu.edu> schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub)
writes:
> > On 07/08/97, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote:
> > >OmniWeb 2.6b2 is an early beta that wasn't actually intended for
> > >public release.[...] Feel free to use it, but keep in mind that we
> > >don't consider it a releasable beta yet and we will not be supporting
> > >it.
> >
> > Listen to him! I gave it a try (the N version), and it's, ah... a
> > little rough around the edges. The Console reported something about
> > loading a "Japanese decoder" or some such thing, and then the browser
> > would not load anything... not even the local, "Welcome", start page.
> >
> > Chastened, I'll stick with 2.5 for now!
>
> Really? I've found 2.6b2 to be rather stable for my use. Tables are
> definitely faster ;-) Startup seems faster too. In particular checking if
> some bookmarked pages have been updated seems much faster. I did see that
> Japanese decoder thing too in the console panel though.
Same here. 2.6b2 is fast and absolutely stable. But .png looks the same like
with OW 2.5.
> Looking forward to the "official" 2.6 beta release.
Yep. And there really really really should be a Java enhanced version
available also for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP for Mach and not only for Rhapsody. If
Netscape and MS can do this on any hardware and OS, why not Omni?
David Andel
NEXTTOYOU Magazine
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From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tell me about the future. Is OS-I obsolete?
Date: 11 Jul 1997 16:53:46 GMT
Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
Message-ID: <5q5oeq$fna$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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In <5q5bn4$7o$2@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Timothy Van Zandt wrote:
> At some point I have to upgrade my black hardware.
> Is OS for intel going to be alive and supported for long
> enough to make it a worthwhile option? Is Rhapsody
> going to support Intel hardware?
While this is obviously wild speculation:
If Rhapsody does not run, and run well, on Pentium based computers, OpenStep
and Rhapsody will die when Apple goes out of business. (This may happen
anyway, even if it does run on Pentiums).
What will happen after 4,2? Who knows? I however, being bold and
optimistic (or stupid, depending on hindsight when this all washes out ;-)
just bought a brand new Pentium for OpenStep, working under the assumption
that a) Rhapsody will run on it [it is all SCSI], and b) if it doesn't I'll
have a good machine to run 4.2 on for a long time.
I'm very pleased with the decision. Bifrost Workstations put it together for
me (has anyone not heard me say that yet?) and they did a great job. (BTW
Tim, if you'd like to see it, I'm in Princeton, out by Route 1, we could
definitely get together if you want to see how a properly put together Intel
machine runs).
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] What's the best X server in Step?
Date: 11 Jul 1997 16:59:12 GMT
Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
Message-ID: <5q5op0$fna$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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In <5q4sog$oib$1@news.tudelft.nl> A. Guyt wrote:
> Jin Ko writes
> >
> > What's the best X server for NEXTSTEP?
> >
> > I tried Xnext but I'm not so satisfied with it for it's slower than
> > I expected.
> > Please recommend me any cool X server better(faster :-) )
> > than Xnext even if comercial.
>
> I tested CubXwindow from intuitivesystems and I liked it very much.
> Furthermore they have committed to porting this X server to Rhapsody !
>
> Look on the Net to find them.
http://www.intuisys.com/
demos can also be found at ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/XNeXT/
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Print Just Add or Even Pages?
Date: 11 Jul 1997 18:31:34 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University
Message-ID: <5q5u66$2p0@news.tamu.edu>
References: <5q5ls4$9gg@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA>
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> HI there:
> I have LaserJet 5L , and i use GSPrintfilter.
>
> Is there program that can select just add or even pages to print?
> Is there something that can do the page numbering when i print some
> document ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
There is an app called PostscriptHelper.app that allows you to filter a postscript document and create either odd or even only pages. This is great to print double sided documents.
Hanspeter Schaub
schaub@tamu.edu
From: info@scribex.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Print Just Add or Even Pages?
Date: 11 Jul 1997 19:33:50 GMT
Organization: VTL
Message-ID: <5q61qu$492$1@wagner.videotron.net>
References: <5q5ls4$9gg@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> <5q5u66$2p0@news.tamu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <5q5u66$2p0@news.tamu.edu>
Here's the path to PostScriptHelper.
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/fro
ntends/PostScriptHelper.0.8.NIHS.bsd.tar.gz
-Andre
===========================
On 07/11/97, Hanspeter Schaub wrote:
> > HI there:
> > I have LaserJet 5L , and i use GSPrintfilter.
> >
> > Is there program that can select just add or even pages to
print?
> > Is there something that can do the page numbering when i
print some
> > document ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
>
> There is an app called PostscriptHelper.app that allows you to
filter a postscript document and create either odd or even only pages.
This is great to print double sided documents.
>
> Hanspeter Schaub
> schaub@tamu.edu
>
>
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ?
Date: 11 Jul 1997 19:58:20 GMT
Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
Message-ID: <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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In <5q5gpn$lkh@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel wrote:
> Same here. 2.6b2 is fast and absolutely stable. But .png looks the same
like
> with OW 2.5.
PNG may or may not catch on.... no I don't want to start a debate on whether
or not it "should" I am saying I don't know that it "will".... after all,
people don't want to stick to the HTML standards, why bring up a standard
image format? Anyway, I'd rather have faster rendering especially of tables,
than support for a relatively minor image type.
> > Looking forward to the "official" 2.6 beta release.
>
> Yep. And there really really really should be a Java enhanced version
> available also for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP for Mach and not only for Rhapsody. If
> Netscape and MS can do this on any hardware and OS, why not Omni?
You are kidding, right? How much $ does NetScape and MS have compared to
OmniGroup? And what about programmers, etc? That's no way to compare. It's
like saying that WalMart is doing better than the corner speciality shop with
a handful of employees.
OmniGroup has said that OmniWeb 3.0 will be designed to support animated gifs
(and turn them off ;-) as well as support for Java (as much of Java which is
an independent standard, vs something like J++ or JavaScript).
OW2.6 will be the last version that will run on NeXTStep, and while the main
focus is on increasing table rendered speed, there will be "something" done
to allow for "some" Java to run on NeXTStep machines, but the focus will be
on 3.0 and OpenStep -- as I think it should be.
Hopefully someone from OG will correct me if I have misspoken.
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
--
TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: schacht@phys.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mathematica 3.0 trouble on OpenStep 4.2
Date: 12 Jul 1997 01:03:40 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <5q6l5c$ecq@nntp6.u.washington.edu>
Hello all,
Well, I suppose there is little chance of getting an answer from
Wolfram tech support during the weekend so someone tell me if you've heard
this before (please tell me you've heard this before!):
I just installed OpenStep 4.2 on my Black 25Mhz MonoSlab and now I
can't get Mathematica 3.0 going on it. I upgraded from NextStep 3.0 which ran
Mathematica 3.0 splendidly, however, with 4.2 it installs fine but won't run.
There is no message in the console, though if I try launching from a terminal
window I do get a terse "bus error". The OS install was a completely fresh
install from scratch and Mathematica was the very next thing to go on.
Something in the back of my mind is mumbling about NS3.0 libraries,
but the back of my mind hardly ever knows what's going on, I expect 4.x runs
3.x binaries with no trouble.
I have already checked the Wolfram tech support web site, there was
an item similar to this, though not exactly and in any case the recommended
fix didn't help (deleting some user configuration files). I also checked
NeXTAnswers, and DejaNews but found nothing helpful.
Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions? Can anyone report
successfully running Mathematica 3.0 on OpenStep 4.2/Black?
Thanks much,
Mike Schacht
schacht@phys.washington.edu
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From: daj@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where is WebMapper.app?
Date: 11 Jul 1997 18:12:12 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <5q5t1s$hrj@news.acns.nwu.edu>
I'm learning to develop web pages. I need a tool to give me pixel coordinates so I can us imagemaps in my web pages. I was told that WebMapper.app is the tool to use. I've looked everywhere and I can't find it or a demo of it.
Can anyone tell me where to get/buy it?
Thank's in advance,
David A. Johnson
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ?
Date: 12 Jul 1997 02:51:47 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de)
Message-ID: <5q6rg3$be8@hal.nexttoyou.de>
References: <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
In article <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J Luoma
<luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> writes:
> In <5q5gpn$lkh@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel wrote:
>
> > Same here. 2.6b2 is fast and absolutely stable. But .png looks the same
> like
> > with OW 2.5.
>
> PNG may or may not catch on.... no I don't want to start a debate on
> wether or not it "should" I am saying I don't know that it "will".... after
> all, people don't want to stick to the HTML standards, why bring up a
> standard image format? Anyway, I'd rather have faster rendering especially
> of tables, than support for a relatively minor image type.
That's a very political answer. After all .png just seems to be better than
gif or .jpg.
> > > Looking forward to the "official" 2.6 beta release.
> >
> > Yep. And there really really really should be a Java enhanced version
> > available also for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP for Mach and not only for Rhapsody.
>
> > If Netscape and MS can do this on any hardware and OS, why not Omni?
>
> You are kidding, right? How much $ does NetScape and MS have compared to
> OmniGroup? And what about programmers, etc? That's no way to compare.
> It's like saying that WalMart is doing better than the corner speciality
> shop with a handful of employees.
Quantity = Quality? So you mean that Microsoft must be better than NeXT or
Apple because of their number of employees and the money they have? Then, of
course, you should use Windows...
> OmniGroup has said that OmniWeb 3.0 will be designed to support animated
> gifs (and turn them off ;-) as well as support for Java (as much of Java
> which is an independent standard, vs something like J++ or JavaScript).
I read the information published in their mailing list and I was very
disappointed. Netsurfer had support for animated gifs a long time ago. But
animated gifs really are one of the most unnecessary features in a web
browser I could imagine.
> OW2.6 will be the last version that will run on NeXTStep, and while the
> main focus is on increasing table rendered speed, there will be "something"
> done to allow for "some" Java to run on NeXTStep machines, but the focus
> will be on 3.0 and OpenStep -- as I think it should be.
AFAIK they said that Java just will be supported in the Rhapsody version and
MAYBE in an OPENSTEP/Mach version (depends on Apple). And if OPENSTEP/Mach
won't be able to run OW 3.0+Java I'm asking myself who really wants to
"upgrade" (?) to Rhapsody giving up most of the old NEXTSTEP third party
software AND in some cases also the currently used hardware (this most
probably means HP, NeXT and SPARC) only to run OW 3.0+Java?
They (Omni Development) can't be serious....
David Andel
NEXTTOYOU Magazine
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From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ?
Date: 12 Jul 1997 03:27:55 GMT
Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
Message-ID: <5q6tjr$s0k$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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In <5q6rg3$be8@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel wrote:
> In article <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J Luoma
> <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> writes:
> > In <5q5gpn$lkh@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel wrote:
> >
> That's a very political answer. After all .png just seems to be better than
> gif or .jpg.
If your definition of PNG is freely available, yes.
If your definition is widespread acceptance, than no.
Remember, the NeXT hardware was better than anything else, and still is...
but NeXT finally had to stop making it because no one came to the parade.
> > > Yep. And there really really really should be a Java enhanced version
> > > available also for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP for Mach and not only for
Rhapsody.
> >
> > > If Netscape and MS can do this on any hardware and OS, why not Omni?
> >
> > You are kidding, right? How much $ does NetScape and MS have compared to
> > OmniGroup? And what about programmers, etc? That's no way to compare.
> > It's like saying that WalMart is doing better than the corner speciality
> > shop with a handful of employees.
>
> Quantity = Quality? So you mean that Microsoft must be better than NeXT or
> Apple because of their number of employees and the money they have? Then,
of
> course, you should use Windows...
Good god no... that's nothing near what I was saying. In fact, more often
than not you get better products from the corner speciality shop that a
discount store that goes for low price.
Quantity only matters in terms of _resources_ available to do things such as
deal with Java stuff...
> I read the information published in their mailing list and I was very
> disappointed. Netsurfer had support for animated gifs a long time ago. But
> animated gifs really are one of the most unnecessary features in a web
> browser I could imagine.
I'll go further and say they're damn annoying...
> AFAIK they said that Java just will be supported in the Rhapsody version
and
> MAYBE in an OPENSTEP/Mach version (depends on Apple). And if OPENSTEP/Mach
> won't be able to run OW 3.0+Java I'm asking myself who really wants to
> "upgrade" (?) to Rhapsody giving up most of the old NEXTSTEP third party
> software AND in some cases also the currently used hardware (this most
> probably means HP, NeXT and SPARC) only to run OW 3.0+Java?
Good question....
> They (Omni Development) can't be serious....
It may be a situation which they would prefer to have happen differently, but
do not have the programmers and other resources to make it happen.
Rhapsody is probably/perhaps the last hope for whoever remains of the 3rd
party software companies. If I were them I'd focus my attention on it as
well....
Remember also that if Rhapsody is as compatible as they say it will be, there
will be plenty of folks who figure that they might as well use NetScape,
because that is what everyone else is using and different=bad for most of the
(American?) population. So they have to make sure that their product is
vastly superior to take the marketshare that a giant like NetScape has just
by sheer weight of web-presence.
I have high hopes for Rhapsody, but I would think it is a scary -- if
exhilarating -- time to have your livlihood dependent on its success....
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where is WebMapper.app?
Date: 12 Jul 1997 03:18:02 GMT
Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
Distribution: world
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Cc: daj@nwu.edu
In <5q5t1s$hrj@news.acns.nwu.edu> daj@nwu.edu wrote:
> I'm learning to develop web pages. I need a tool to give me pixel
coordinates so I can us imagemaps in my web pages. I was told that
WebMapper.app is the tool to use. I've looked everywhere and I can't find it
or a demo of it.
>
> Can anyone tell me where to get/buy it?
look in
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/WebMapper/
this is the latest version:
5.NIHS.tar.gz
single archs are also available.
BTW you can search the archive for word such as 'webmapper' by sending email
to 'luomat@peak.org' with the SUBJECT
search-peak webmapper
and it will send you the URLs back via email
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
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From: naj@_nospam_fraxinus.fast.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TickleService && lipo && sparc
Date: 12 Jul 1997 04:27:42 GMT
Organization: FASTNET(tm) PA/NJ/DE Internet
Message-ID: <5q713u$qvc$1@news1.fast.net>
Naw, c'mon, wonst. I can't be the first to struggle with this.
I'm addicted to TickleServices; I admit that right up front. And,
yeah, I like TjL's lipo routines, but they don't do the find -depth
that Herr Hess's tickleservices do. So I'm trying to get the TS
liposuction routines to vacuum out sparc binaries from within fat apps
but to no avail. I can thin for sparc only, prove that a binary is
obese with sparc bits, but as soon as I try to Services-TS->Edit Files
to suck out a particular binary, TS barfs. Please tell me I dunhaveta
get the OReilly Tickle book for a simple mod like this. What is it
that adding sparc to Scott's list of obesities breaks Edit Files?
Yeah, yeah, sure I can do a find -exec lipo by hand, but why bother?
That's the whole point of TickleServices.
Another person wasting his Friday night in front of a screen,
Naj
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From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ?
Date: 12 Jul 1997 01:36:28 -0400
Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
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In article <5q6rg3$be8@hal.nexttoyou.de>, David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote:
> In article <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J Luoma
> <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> writes:
> > OW2.6 will be the last version that will run on NeXTStep, and while the
> > main focus is on increasing table rendered speed, there will be "something"
> > done to allow for "some" Java to run on NeXTStep machines, but the focus
> > will be on 3.0 and OpenStep -- as I think it should be.
> AFAIK they said that Java just will be supported in the Rhapsody version and
> MAYBE in an OPENSTEP/Mach version (depends on Apple). And if OPENSTEP/Mach
> won't be able to run OW 3.0+Java I'm asking myself who really wants to
> "upgrade" (?) to Rhapsody giving up most of the old NEXTSTEP third party
> software AND in some cases also the currently used hardware (this most
> probably means HP, NeXT and SPARC) only to run OW 3.0+Java?
> They (Omni Development) can't be serious....
Sheesh! Give them a break!
(1) The future of the OpenStep market is Rhapsody. You can't blame
them for attempting to serve that market, which will be vastly larger
than all of the legacy users put together. It's nice to try to stay
backwards-compatible, but not to the point of causing them to expend
too much effort (such as writing their own Java implementation). They
are a business, not a charity. I think their time is better spent
ensuring that OmniWeb will be as competitive as possible with the
feature set of their new Rhapsody competitor, Netscape.
(2) Writing a full Java implementation, including VM and AWT, is a
decidedly NONtrivial task. Can you blame them for wanting to just use
Apple's implementation, instead of spending a large amount of effort
attempting to finish their own?
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <ED5rK2.67r@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:14:26 GMT
References: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net> <cdoutyED2I89.Bq0@netcom.com> <5q1r3q$qhq@portal.gmu.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <5q1r3q$qhq@portal.gmu.edu>,
Tim <tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu> wrote:
>Question for folks in this thread, I have heard there's a cg3 hack
>out there somewhere for Sol OpenStep. Does anyone know where I can
>find it?
>
This isn't for Solaris OpenStep (Solaris likes the cg3 just fine) but for
OPENSTEP for Mach/SPARC. I don't really know more.
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Subject: Re: Rob Blessin? Blackhole, Inc? Where are you?
Message-ID: <5q37u7$57d$1@jake.esu.edu>
From: katz@cs.millersv.edu (Beth Katz)
Date: 10 Jul 1997 17:59:35 GMT
References: <5pf6ib$qrv@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>
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Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania
Well, we just ordered our academic copies of OpenStep 4.2 for Mach
from Apple. I wandered around NeXT's site and found:
http://www.next.com/BuyNow/WebFaq.html
where I read about academic purchases. I sent mail to appleom_ext@next.com
and received a prompt response from Karen Scott saying:
> You may order Openstep 4.2 from us here at this address. The Academic
> price is $299.00 plus tax and freight. Please provide us the following:
>
> A copy of your student id to be faxed at 512 919 2054
> Name/phone number
> Shipping address
> Billing address
> method of payment (if credit card, we need the cc# and expiration date)
> (Visa, MasterCard, and American Express)
> product you are ordering with platform specified.
>
> We can take this info via email with the exception on your
> student/faculity id card. The reason we need the card is to be able to
> qualify you for the low prices!!
We faxed them the info and were told the CDs went out Wednesday and
should be here Friday. That's tomorrow. No need to deal with NASCCORP
or your local bookstore.
I'll admit that when I bought from Rob (4.0 last summer) he got them out
as soon as NeXT got them to him.
Beth Katz
katz@cs.millersv.edu
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From: John Zachary <zachary@bit.csc.lsu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: FS: OpenStep 4.2 Mach User+Developer
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 21:03:24 -0500
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Hi,
I have been seduced by the dark side into (one of) my dream jobs
and as a consequence, I won't have time to devote to porting some
projects to OpenStep. Thus, I have the recent OpenStep 4.2 Mach for
Intel User + Developer software with manuals for sale. I ordered
it all directly from Apple about 4 weeks ago so the manuals haven't
even been read. Asking price is $240 + 1/2 of S/H in the continental
U.S.
John
Note: This is the academic version but has the full-blown capability.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CD Quality sound into DSP
References: <5q5nah$fcl@slip.net>
Organization: University of Calgary CPSC
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Message-ID: <33c8169b.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Date: 12 Jul 97 23:43:23 GMT
In article <5q5nah$fcl@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>I have an 040/25 Cube and am interested
>in packages which will allow one to record
>CD-Sound into the NeXT DSP.
>
>What packages aside from DigitalEars are
>available? Of these, is DigitalEars the best
>package available?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Emmett
>
There was a hardware and software package from Singular Solutions
(959 East Colorado Blvd Pasadena CA 91106 1-818-792-9567)
called the A/D64x which provided for digital input and output
via the SSI port of the DSP on the original black NeXT hardware.
I have used this extensively and am very pleased with the performance.
I can use it to read and write DAT. I also use the DAT machine to
produce the final output when I want analog out (using the D-A
facility on the DAT -- this is the one criticism I have of the A/D64x,
shouldn't have to do this, it should be built in!)
They occasionally come up as used items. I don't know if SS still
supplies them new.
Hope this helps.
david
---
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From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Problem with WordPerfect 1.0.1
Date: 13 Jul 1997 01:01:53 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <5q99e1$dsr@ttacs7.ttu.edu>
i installed wp 1.0.1 on my Next Turbo Color Station and i have the
follwing problem:
when i type in a wp document, some of the typed letters, like s, don't
appear on screen. also, the backspace key adds an additional space.
is there a way that i can fix this?
any help is appreciated.
hs
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From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat+next+usenet@luomat.peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Problem with WordPerfect 1.0.1
Date: 13 Jul 1997 02:14:54 GMT
Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
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In <5q99e1$dsr@ttacs7.ttu.edu> seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu wrote:
is this a ADB system?
What is the date in the 'Info' panel? (there were more than one version
1.0.1)
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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From: Marco Cappuccio <nocturno@i-2000.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenStep on VIrtual PC?
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 14:19:07 -0400
Organization: I-2000 Inc., Internet Services
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Has anyone tried installing OpenStep 4.2 with Mach for Intel on a
Macintosh running Virtual PC? I got it up and running. It's slow. Too
slow to be usable. Does anyone have a few performance improvement tips?
What daemons can I delete from the startup to improve performance
without crippling the system. When running Windows 95 Virtual PC "feels"
like a 486 DX2/66. Is that too slow of a system for OpenStep Mach?
I'm also stuck in 640x480 x2 video. Changing the configuration in
configure.app and reinstalling the driver doesn't help. Virtual PC
emulates a S3 928 PCI SVGA video chip set with 2 MB of video ram.
OpenStep appears to have recognized this but it is stuck in the default
video mode. Experience with Virtual PC shows that matching the video
display mode to that of the Mac has a considerable speed boost.
Thanks for your help.
From a NeXT novice,
Marco Cappuccio
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From: brownk@interport.net (Kurt Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTStep 3.3 and other OS's
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 97 20:12:01 GMT
Organization: Interport Communications Corp.
Message-ID: <5qbcjb$m7s$1@broadway.interport.net>
Hi,
Just came into possesion of a copy of Nextstep 3.3 for the Intel platform.
I'm trying to decide which machine to put it on but I am not sure how it will
handle other Operating systems. My machines all run DOS/Linux, Win95/NT4. Is
there a LILO type program or boot manager with nextstep? Does it work when
other OS's besides DOS are installed and how does the dual boot between DOS
work?
Thanks
Kurt Brown /|\
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ?
Date: 13 Jul 1997 15:46:30 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de)
Message-ID: <5qat8m$114@hal.nexttoyou.de>
References: <5q754s$4am$1@sps1.phys.vt.edu>
In article <5q754s$4am$1@sps1.phys.vt.edu> nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan
Urban) writes:
> In article <5q6rg3$be8@hal.nexttoyou.de>, David Andel
<da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote:
>
> > In article <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J Luoma
> > <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> writes:
>
> > > OW2.6 will be the last version that will run on NeXTStep, and while the
> > > main focus is on increasing table rendered speed, there will be
> > > "something" done to allow for "some" Java to run on NeXTStep machines,
> > > but the focus will be on 3.0 and OpenStep -- as I think it should be.
>
> > AFAIK they said that Java just will be supported in the Rhapsody version
> > and MAYBE in an OPENSTEP/Mach version (depends on Apple). And if
> > OPENSTEP/Mach won't be able to run OW 3.0+Java I'm asking myself who
> > really wants to "upgrade" (?) to Rhapsody giving up most of the old
> > NEXTSTEP third party software AND in some cases also the currently used
> > hardware (this most probably means HP, NeXT and SPARC) only to run OW
> > 3.0+Java?
> >
> > They (Omni Development) can't be serious....
>
> Sheesh! Give them a break!
>
> (1) The future of the OpenStep market is Rhapsody. You can't blame
> them for attempting to serve that market, which will be vastly larger
> than all of the legacy users put together. It's nice to try to stay
> backwards-compatible, but not to the point of causing them to expend
> too much effort (such as writing their own Java implementation). They
> are a business, not a charity. I think their time is better spent
> ensuring that OmniWeb will be as competitive as possible with the
> feature set of their new Rhapsody competitor, Netscape.
Well, you're right and wrong at the same time :-). It is a fact that most of
us volunteered as NeXTguineapigs but it is also highly probable that being a
NeXTguineapig won't be a lifetime position for some of us. So combining
missing company "charity" with missing user "charity" is not a good start.
> (2) Writing a full Java implementation, including VM and AWT, is a
> decidedly NONtrivial task. Can you blame them for wanting to just use
> Apple's implementation, instead of spending a large amount of effort
> attempting to finish their own?
I can blame Apple if they really believe that every NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Mach
user will give up the past six or so years just to run Rhapsody.
David Andel
NEXTTOYOU Magazine
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From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ?
Date: 13 Jul 1997 15:29:47 GMT
Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de)
Message-ID: <5qas9b$n6@hal.nexttoyou.de>
References: <5q6tjr$s0k$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
In article <5q6tjr$s0k$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J Luoma
<luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> writes:
> In <5q6rg3$be8@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel wrote:
> > In article <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J Luoma
> > <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> writes:
> > > In <5q5gpn$lkh@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel wrote:
> > >
> > That's a very political answer. After all .png just seems to be better
> > than .gif or .jpg.
>
> If your definition of PNG is freely available, yes.
>
> If your definition is widespread acceptance, than no.
A question of time, yes. I do not know what will happen tomorrow but I'm
ready to accept every free increase in quality.
> Remember, the NeXT hardware was better than anything else, and still is...
> but NeXT finally had to stop making it because no one came to the parade.
True.
[...]
> > Quantity = Quality? So you mean that Microsoft must be better than NeXT
> > or Apple because of their number of employees and the money they have?
> > Then, of course, you should use Windows...
>
> Good god no... that's nothing near what I was saying. In fact, more often
> than not you get better products from the corner speciality shop that a
> discount store that goes for low price.
And that's exactly the reason for the fact that so many good software is
available for NEXTSTEP and so many overestimated for other mainstream OS's.
> Quantity only matters in terms of _resources_ available to do things such
> as deal with Java stuff...
My resources as a customer also are extremely limited after years of hope and
disappointment. This might be surprising for Apple and Omni and some other
companies involved. But this time I won't be an early and convinced Rhapsody
customer if it means giving up all the past.
> > They (Omni Development) can't be serious....
>
> It may be a situation which they would prefer to have happen differently,
> but do not have the programmers and other resources to make it happen.
True.
> Rhapsody is probably/perhaps the last hope for whoever remains of the 3rd
> party software companies. If I were them I'd focus my attention on it as
> well....
Yes and no. There should be a certain loyality for money relation. Not only
the customer loyality to pay for software and for upgrades and then to look
how supported software becomes unsupported but also a company loyality. This
means for Apple not to try to give up the whole NeXTworld and reinvent the
wheel with Rhapsody 1.0.
> Remember also that if Rhapsody is as compatible as they say it will be,
> there will be plenty of folks who figure that they might as well use
> Netscape, because that is what everyone else is using and different=bad for
> most of the (American?) population. So they have to make sure that their
> product is vastly superior to take the marketshare that a giant like
> NetScape has just by sheer weight of web-presence.
Then, if Omni Development does not want to loose support from their
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Mach users, they simply should not forget them.
David Andel
NEXTTOYOU Magazine
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From: a11@a.a
Subject: $$$ NEW SYSTEM, BETTER THAN "ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST" $$$
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: 18
Message-ID: <33c92482.0@news.unibe.ch>
Date: 13 Jul 97 18:54:58 GMT
I have participated in the standard "Please put me on your mailing list" letter and found it to be worth
my time (I get 1 or 2 handfulls or letters every day) but I also found that it's results were nowhere
near what I expected due mainly to people not sending in the money but rather spreading the letter
without paying for it. I participated in that mainly as an experiment and found that there are a
tremendous amount of people willing to do it. I thought about how to, first, eliminate the "non-pay"
problem and, second, to create a monthly income. I came upon the solution and decided to start a new
program. I decided that there were 3 things that this new program needed in order to work for everyone
and they were: 1.) It needed to be very simple and easy for anyone to do, and, 2.) It needed to be
inexpensive enough for even the poorest of people, and, 3.) It needs to be DUPLICATABLE. I think you
will find this program to meet those requirements. I have put lots of thought into it and I ask that you
PLEASE do NOT modify it. This WILL WORK if you follow it. This system is based on the unconditional
"loaning" of money to people. Simply say, "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in
your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can." You should find 5 or more people who will
send $2 to the 5 needy people on this list AND MAINTAIN 5 or more people who will do the same. You
should put your name on postition number 5 and move each of the other names up one position. The name
originally on position number 1 gets removed. You should be able to contact each of your 5 or more
people to see if they are going to be active this month. If not then you need to find one or more people
to be active in order to maintain at least 5. I am not speaking about the 5 people on the list but
rather the 5 new people you have found. I would highly suggest having more than 5 in any given month.
Now I know that this would be extremely easy to do since I can think of at least 20 people myself who
will do this consistently. The key is to maintain at LEAST 5 active people. If you don't then you can't
expect for the rest of the people to do it either and you can't expect for this system to work. This
system is a no-brainer, and if someone can't afford the $10 + stamps for this then they truly ARE in
need! It is OK to use the internet to find people but I think it would be easier to find them through
people that you know. This way it will be easier for you to contact them every month to ask about their
being active, unless someone is willing to give you their e-mail address. Here are some numbers:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 4 active members @ $2 each:
Level 1: $2 x 4 people = $8, Total now $8
Level 2: $2 x 16 people = $32, Total now $8 + $32 = $40
Level 3: $2 x 64 people = $128, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 = $168
Level 4: $2 x 256 people = $512, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 = $680
Level 5: $2 x 1024 people = $2048, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 + $2048 = *** $2728 ***
Yearly income: $2728 x 12 months = $32,736
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 5 active members @ $2 each:
Level 1: $2 x 5 people = $10, Total now $10
Level 2: $2 x 25 people = $50, Total now $10 + $50 = $60
Level 3: $2 x 125 people = $250, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 = $310
Level 4: $2 x 500 people = $1000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 = $1310
Level 5: $2 x 2500 people = $5000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 + $5000 = *** $6310 ***
Yearly income: $6310 x 12 months = $75,720
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 6 active members @ $2 each:
Level 1: $2 x 6 people = $12, Total now $12
Level 2: $2 x 36 people = $72, Total now $12 + $72 = $84
Level 3: $2 x 216 people = $432, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 = $516
Level 4: $2 x 1296 people = $2592, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 = $3108
Level 5: $2 x 7776 people = $15552, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 + $15552 = *** $18660 ***
Yearly income: $18660 x 12 months = $223,920
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 7 active members @ $2 each:
Level 1: $2 x 7 people = $14, Total now $14
Level 2: $2 x 49 people = $98, Total now $14 + $98 = $112
Level 3: $2 x 343 people = $686, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 = $798
Level 4: $2 x 2401 people = $4802, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 = $5600
Level 5: $2 x 16807 people = $33614, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 + $33614 = *** $39214 ***
Yearly income: $39214 x 12 months = $470,568
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Keep in mind that it does not matter what day of the month that someone chooses to be active. It DOES
matter that they are active on that day EVERY month. The key to this is DUPLICATION! You must treat this
as a business. If you treat it like a hobby that is how it will treat you. You could even organize small
meetings with your people and their prospects and work with your leaders.
Think of how easy this would be for you, how reasonable this is, and of how good the chances are of it
working for you. You may need to hire someone to open all the envelopes.
NOTE: I decided on $2 instead of $1 because it is more feasible and it won't matter much for someone to
send $2 as opposed to $1. Also I was against $5 as that becomes too expensive to duplicate.
Mail $2 every month with a piece of paper saying "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help
you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can" to the following needy people:
#1 Robert Jezil
114 Jefferson Ave.
Slidell, LA 70460
#2 Phil Walther Jr.
9495 Annapolis Lane North
Maple Grove, MN 55369
#3 C. E. Burkman
170 University Ave. W
Suite 12-129
Waterloo, Ontario
N2L 3E9
#4 A. Bailey
1207 Reeves Road
Plainfield, IN 46168
#5 J. Martin
P.O. Box 2292
Reston, Va. 20195
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I have participated in the standard "Please put me on your mailing list" letter and found it to be worth
my time (I get 1 or 2 handfulls or letters every day) but I also found that it's results were nowhere
near what I expected due mainly to people not sending in the money but rather spreading the letter
without paying for it. I participated in that mainly as an experiment and found that there are a
tremendous amount of people willing to do it. I thought about how to, first, eliminate the "non-pay"
problem and, second, to create a monthly income. I came upon the solution and decided to start a new
program. I decided that there were 3 things that this new program needed in order to work for everyone
and they were: 1.) It needed to be very simple and easy for anyone to do, and, 2.) It needed to be
inexpensive enough for even the poorest of people, and, 3.) It needs to be DUPLICATABLE. I think you
will find this program to meet those requirements. I have put lots of thought into it and I ask that you
PLEASE do NOT modify it. This WILL WORK if you follow it. This system is based on the unconditional
"loaning" of money to people. Simply say, "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in
your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can." You should find 5 or more people who will
send $2 to the 5 needy people on this list AND MAINTAIN 5 or more people who will do the same. You
should put your name on postition number 5 and move each of the other names up one position. The name
originally on position number 1 gets removed. You should be able to contact each of your 5 or more
people to see if they are going to be active this month. If not then you need to find one or more people
to be active in order to maintain at least 5. I am not speaking about the 5 people on the list but
rather the 5 new people you have found. I would highly suggest having more than 5 in any given month.
Now I know that this would be extremely easy to do since I can think of at least 20 people myself who
will do this consistently. The key is to maintain at LEAST 5 active people. If you don't then you can't
expect for the rest of the people to do it either and you can't expect for this system to work. This
system is a no-brainer, and if someone can't afford the $10 + stamps for this then they truly ARE in
need! It is OK to use the internet to find people but I think it would be easier to find them through
people that you know. This way it will be easier for you to contact them every month to ask about their
being active, unless someone is willing to give you their e-mail address. Here are some numbers:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 4 active members @ $2 each:
Level 1: $2 x 4 people = $8, Total now $8
Level 2: $2 x 16 people = $32, Total now $8 + $32 = $40
Level 3: $2 x 64 people = $128, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 = $168
Level 4: $2 x 256 people = $512, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 = $680
Level 5: $2 x 1024 people = $2048, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 + $2048 = *** $2728 ***
Yearly income: $2728 x 12 months = $32,736
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 5 active members @ $2 each:
Level 1: $2 x 5 people = $10, Total now $10
Level 2: $2 x 25 people = $50, Total now $10 + $50 = $60
Level 3: $2 x 125 people = $250, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 = $310
Level 4: $2 x 500 people = $1000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 = $1310
Level 5: $2 x 2500 people = $5000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 + $5000 = *** $6310 ***
Yearly income: $6310 x 12 months = $75,720
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 6 active members @ $2 each:
Level 1: $2 x 6 people = $12, Total now $12
Level 2: $2 x 36 people = $72, Total now $12 + $72 = $84
Level 3: $2 x 216 people = $432, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 = $516
Level 4: $2 x 1296 people = $2592, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 = $3108
Level 5: $2 x 7776 people = $15552, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 + $15552 = *** $18660 ***
Yearly income: $18660 x 12 months = $223,920
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 7 active members @ $2 each:
Level 1: $2 x 7 people = $14, Total now $14
Level 2: $2 x 49 people = $98, Total now $14 + $98 = $112
Level 3: $2 x 343 people = $686, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 = $798
Level 4: $2 x 2401 people = $4802, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 = $5600
Level 5: $2 x 16807 people = $33614, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 + $33614 = *** $39214 ***
Yearly income: $39214 x 12 months = $470,568
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Keep in mind that it does not matter what day of the month that someone chooses to be active. It DOES
matter that they are active on that day EVERY month. The key to this is DUPLICATION! You must treat this
as a business. If you treat it like a hobby that is how it will treat you. You could even organize small
meetings with your people and their prospects and work with your leaders.
Think of how easy this would be for you, how reasonable this is, and of how good the chances are of it
working for you. You may need to hire someone to open all the envelopes.
NOTE: I decided on $2 instead of $1 because it is more feasible and it won't matter much for someone to
send $2 as opposed to $1. Also I was against $5 as that becomes too expensive to duplicate.
Mail $2 every month with a piece of paper saying "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help
you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can" to the following needy people:
#1 Robert Jezil
114 Jefferson Ave.
Slidell, LA 70460
#2 Phil Walther Jr.
9495 Annapolis Lane North
Maple Grove, MN 55369
#3 C. E. Burkman
170 University Ave. W
Suite 12-129
Waterloo, Ontario
N2L 3E9
#4 A. Bailey
1207 Reeves Road
Plainfield, IN 46168
#5 J. Martin
P.O. Box 2292
Reston, Va. 20195
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Getting audio in NeXTtv
Date: 11 Jul 1997 22:06:57 -0700
Organization: Slip.Net
Message-ID: <5q73dh$63h@slip.net>
Hi,
The NeXT Dimension board has 2 RCA connectors and
a Din-5 connector. Does one have to use the Din-5
connector to get audio while watching NeXTtv?
Is there a such thing as a RCA to Din-5 adapter?
My VCR only has RCA connectors.
Thanks,
Emmett
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenStep on VIrtual PC?
Date: 14 Jul 1997 01:44:08 GMT
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If you want it to go faster add more cache to your system. For video you have to tell the driver what reslution you want. You do this the same place you install the video driver.
wes
Marco Cappuccio <nocturno@i-2000.com> wrote:
> Has anyone tried installing OpenStep 4.2 with Mach for Intel on a
> Macintosh running Virtual PC? I got it up and running. It's slow. Too
> slow to be usable. Does anyone have a few performance improvement tips?
> What daemons can I delete from the startup to improve performance
> without crippling the system. When running Windows 95 Virtual PC "feels"
> like a 486 DX2/66. Is that too slow of a system for OpenStep Mach?
> I'm also stuck in 640x480 x2 video. Changing the configuration in
> configure.app and reinstalling the driver doesn't help. Virtual PC
> emulates a S3 928 PCI SVGA video chip set with 2 MB of video ram.
> OpenStep appears to have recognized this but it is stuck in the default
> video mode. Experience with Virtual PC shows that matching the video
> display mode to that of the Mac has a considerable speed boost.
> Thanks for your help.
> From a NeXT novice,
> Marco Cappuccio
>
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Marco Cappuccio wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried installing OpenStep 4.2 with Mach for Intel on a
> Macintosh running Virtual PC? I got it up and running. It's slow. Too
> slow to be usable.
That bad huh? I had really hoped this would work well. What type of
Mac are you running?
STEVE K.
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From: phy070@spo101 (H.-R. Oberhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: Please Help! Pulling hair out over install
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Eric Harley (erich@powerwareintl.com) wrote:
: Ive about had it with the OpenStep 4.2 install.
: I am using a generic PC motherboard with an AMD chip. I am using the EIDE
: sockets on the board to connect my HD and CD-ROM.
: I have tried everything under the sun to get this thing running OpenStep
: 4.2 and time after time the install DIES at the exact same point.
:
: I have tried using the -v and -s at the boot: prompt.
: I just dont get why it wont work. I called up NeXT support and they said
: it was the EIDE interface on my board, well I turned that off and used an
: EIDE card that I had laying around and that didn't work either!
:
: Can somebody out there that has installed OpenStep 4.2 onto an IDE HD with
: an ATAPI CDROM please give me some hints and clues as to what to do?
: Please?
:
I've received an OPENSTEP/mach 4.2 version (final) and observed the following
(obvious error): A Toshiba 2.1GB disk won't be initialized properly (in
a Toshiba Tecra 730 CDT laptop) because the progam (/NextCD/CDIS/)pickdisk
makes an error (the 4.1 version of this program works properly!).
I can't excatly tell, if the following is the reason or just a side-effect:
It tells me it can't install OPENSTEP on a 1024 byte/sector (EIDE) disk,
whereas the previous version correctly determines a 512 byte/sector disk.
I've managed to get the system on the disk by using the 4.1 pickdisk,
copying (/etc/)rc.cdrom to a floppy and letting it run the 4.1 version
of pickdisk. But this is not an easy task and not suitable for the timid!
Obviously pickdisk (which is a rather new program version if you look at
the date) needs a fix!
Greetings,
Ruediger Oberhage
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From: jbf@frazer.com (James Frazer)
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Subject: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:36:32 -0400
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Check http://www.lighthouse.com/CurrentProductVersionNumbers.html
whence I quote:
"In the interest of helping our longtime users, we are giving you a
free 2 user license for all Lighthouse applications excluding FrameMaker
(only available from Adobe Systems, Inc.), OmniWeb (which already has a
1-user license) and JavaPlan (which is a currently shipping product).
There is NO EMAIL SUPPORT available for any of these products, effective
July 1, 1997. Check our FAQ server or the online documentation for support
assistance."
Barney
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Date: 14 Jul 1997 17:12:12 GMT
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On 07/13/97, James Frazer wrote:
>Check http://www.lighthouse.com/CurrentProductVersionNumbers.html
>whence I quote:
>
>"In the interest of helping our longtime users, we are giving you a
>free 2 user license for all Lighthouse applications excluding FrameMaker
>(only available from Adobe Systems, Inc.), OmniWeb (which already has a
>1-user license) and JavaPlan (which is a currently shipping product).
>There is NO EMAIL SUPPORT available for any of these products, effective
>July 1, 1997. Check our FAQ server or the online documentation for support
>assistance."
>
>Barney
Thank you Lighthouse!!
I was also encouraged by the comment on that page:
"When Rhapsody becomes a shipping product, watch our web site for potential new
product announcements."
- Chris
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For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader
visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com
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From: schacht@phys.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 trouble on OpenStep 4.2, SOLVED
Date: 14 Jul 1997 17:14:31 GMT
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Back again,
The problem was a simple one, I failed to put the fonts in the proper
directory. It wouldn't have believed this would prevent the thing from even
launching, but a little file shuffling took care of things.
So if anyone else is wondering, the fonts need to be in LocalLibrary
for Mathematica to even run, not just for printing and PostScript previewing
to work.
Mike Schacht
schacht@phys.washington.edu
(Jagannatha and Eric, if you are out there, thanks for your responces. I
wasn't able to email you personally for some reason.)
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:06:19 -0400
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This is incredible news!
I am downloading all the available apps to
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/LightHouse/ in case someday they
vanish off the LightHouse web pages. I will also put a copy of that web
page in there local to peak.
In case anyone missed the original post, here it is:
Check http://www.lighthouse.com/CurrentProductVersionNumbers.html
whence I quote:
"In the interest of helping our longtime users, we are giving you a
free 2 user license for all Lighthouse applications excluding FrameMaker
(only available from Adobe Systems, Inc.), OmniWeb (which already has a
1-user license) and JavaPlan (which is a currently shipping product).
There is NO EMAIL SUPPORT available for any of these products, effective
July 1, 1997. Check our FAQ server or the online documentation for support
assistance."
TjL, about to fill up his HD!
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org>
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Subject: Quantrix (Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:43:17 -0400
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The web page says that Quantrix is at version 2.4, but their ftp site only
has 2.3.... hrm....
Anyone know if this is a typo or if their ftp site is just lacking the
newest version?
TjL
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(followups to advocacy -sam)
>Check http://www.lighthouse.com/CurrentProductVersionNumbers.html
>whence I quote:
>"In the interest of helping our longtime users, we are giving you a
>free 2 user license for all Lighthouse applications excluding
> (a few...)
Wow, Lighthouse moves on with a HUGE show of class. Thank you
indeed! Also to Sun for doing the right thing here.
Apple has a rare opportunity here to do something really huge.
Release NeXTstep 3.3 as unsupported freeware. Forget lousy
NC's; for $500 buy a box that's easy to network, has email, does
postscript graphics, has world class spreadsheet, image
manipulation, graphs, charting, outlining, presentation,
word processing, database, scheduling, and more bundled for free.
Would anyone actually prefer some dumbass java applets?
You could spend thousands on Windows applications and not
match the functionality here.
This would be a product that deserves to give Microsoft a run for
the money. Apple should do this to set the standard for a product
with which they ought to compete; if they can't compete with
5 year old freeware they certainly are not prepared to compete
with Microsoft or to really matter. Create a rocketship
and learn to dance!
cheers,
-sam
From: Jesse McCann <ybco@bestweb.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS User Dev Different versions
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:00:27 -0500
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Does anyone know if you can install different versions of NeXTSTEP User
and Developer (ie NS 3.2 w/ developer 3.1)????
thanx,
jesse
ybco@bestrweb.net
From: Matt Borgstrand <gomezjr@iastate.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Multi-OS Boot problems!!
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:08:09 -0500
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Who has experience with LILO-style boot managers with OpenStep???
We have a Zenith P166 with 2 IDE drives (C: Win95, D: WinNT 4 as FAT16)
and Prelude running off of a SCSI drive on an Adaptec 1542 card.
Disable C: & D: in BIOS and OpenStep boots fine (as C: drive). Obviously
we need a decent boot mgr. but LILO in Linux doesn't seem to detect the
SCSI partition at all.
If someone knows of a decent *free* boot utility that recognizes all of
these OS's, let me know! Otherwise . . .
I'd be just about as happy to boot from an OpenStep floppy like the
Installer disk. However, when I issue a "sd()mach_kernel" from the
"Boot:" prompt, I get the error "bad disk label magic" along with a
bunch of Superblock 2 errors. Again, disable C: & D: and I can pass off
to the SCSI kernel from the floppy just fine. This all goes against
NextAnswers doc #1487.
What's going on???
-Matt Borgstrand
gomezjr@iastate.edu
From: j-ochs@nwu.edu (Joshua Ochs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenStep on VIrtual PC?
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:37:10 -0500
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Message-ID: <j-ochs-1407970037100001@cci077126.res-hall.nwu.edu>
References: <33C91C11.303176AE@i-2000.com>
In article <33C91C11.303176AE@i-2000.com>, nocturno@i-2000.com wrote:
>Has anyone tried installing OpenStep 4.2 with Mach for Intel on a
>Macintosh running Virtual PC? I got it up and running. It's slow. Too
>slow to be usable. Does anyone have a few performance improvement tips?
>What daemons can I delete from the startup to improve performance
>without crippling the system. When running Windows 95 Virtual PC "feels"
>
>like a 486 DX2/66. Is that too slow of a system for OpenStep Mach?
>
>I'm also stuck in 640x480 x2 video. Changing the configuration in
>configure.app and reinstalling the driver doesn't help. Virtual PC
>emulates a S3 928 PCI SVGA video chip set with 2 MB of video ram.
>OpenStep appears to have recognized this but it is stuck in the default
>video mode. Experience with Virtual PC shows that matching the video
>display mode to that of the Mac has a considerable speed boost.
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>From a NeXT novice,
>Marco Cappuccio
I can't help you with the speed (I'm in the same camp myself), but the
video is rather finnicky. On the Mac, I can do 1024x768 @16bit and 75Hz
refresh rate. On OpenStep, I can get 1024x768 @ 8bit and 60 or 70Hz - I
forget which. You can change this setting in the Configure app - it's in
NeXTAdmin. Play with it a while - if NeXT doesn't like it, it'll drop you
back in 640x480 @ mono. Keep fiddling for a while, eventually you'll get
something better.
- Joshua Ochs
Diamond Software
From: "Daniel B." <wnsup556@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Searching for an ISP who understand UNIX aka NeXT in NY City
Date: 15 Jul 1997 01:55:01 GMT
Organization: WorldNet
Message-ID: <01bc90c1$c034b9a0$8422a8c0@cube154a>
References: <868555363.27387@dejanews.com>
Hi there,
> Yes! I called ATT and MCI and they only know about MS Windows
> or Mac :^(
>
> Could some kind soul leads me an ISP in the New York City
> area.
I work for ATT and its true that we don''t do tech support for NeXT. But
you can use any operating system that you want. The easiest way to get an
account is to register on a Mac or peecee. Otherwise you can use one of
these two pages:
http://204.127.2.1/cgi-bin/nsregister
http://order.worldnet.att.net/att/att.asp?BID=L50Q&PID=3000&SESSION=36258
this should get you into the service, you'll have to setup the software all
by yourself, we don't have any training outside of Micro$oft products at
peecee support and the same is true at Mac support. although you might be
lucky
regardless of wether or not you use win95, win3.x or mac we can give you
the server settings, like dns server.
good luck
--
Daniel B.
wnsup556@worldnet.att.net
dbisping@students.wisc.edu
hifiboywi@aol.com
They said I needed Windows 3.1 or better,
so I bought a Macintosh.
Then they said I needed Windows 95 or better,
so I bought another Macintosh.
Now they tell me I need Windows NT 4.0 or better.
(Sigh) I bought another Macintosh.
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From: iecannie@ustsu3.ust.hk (Jesse Hau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PDF file
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 04:05:13 GMT
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does anyone knows what is ODF file, in what software that i can open this
kinds file?
Jesse Hau
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Yap on NS3.2 ?
Message-ID: <5qbdjn$j3h$1@jake.esu.edu>
From: katz@cs.millersv.edu (Beth Katz)
Date: 13 Jul 1997 20:25:27 GMT
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Chris aka keyser soze (bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu.nospam) wrote:
> I used to use a NeXT a lot when it was running NS2.0.
> I really liked a program called Yap which was a
> postscript previewer demo program.
> I have picked up an old colorstation that is running
> NS3.2 but there's no Yap on it.
> Does Yap run under 3.2 ? If not, is there a comparable
> interactive postscript interpreter like Yap ?
I was using Yap under 3.2 just a few days ago when I was waiting
for my dead hard disk replacement (I have 3.2 on my internal
hard disk and now 4.2 on my big external). And I've been using
Yap under 4.0 and will under 4.2. It's even OpenStep-ified.
Does that old colorstation have the developer apps or is it just
NEXTSTEP User? My copy is in /NextDeveloper/Apps/Yap.app.
I'm probably a little strange in that I use Yap to help me
draw crossstitch charts in PostScript. Fun language.
Beth Katz
katz@cs.millersv.edu
http://cs.millersv.edu/~katz
From: pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreaders
Date: 11 Jul 1997 20:05:33 GMT
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cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) wrote:
>NewsFlash from WolfWare is a threaded newsreader (displays articles "nested"
>under the article they are replying too) with a graphical user interface.
How about making it able to utilize MailTIFFs like Alexandra.app and giving
it a marker-functionality like Colorizer.bundle for Mail.app. Then I would
consider buying it. (-; And if it would even share the configfile with
Colorizer.bundle it would truly kick.
Christian
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From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreaders
Date: 15 Jul 1997 10:14:46 GMT
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On 07/11/97, Christian Pekeler wrote:
>cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) wrote:
>>NewsFlash from WolfWare is a threaded newsreader (displays articles "nested"
>>under the article they are replying too) with a graphical user interface.
Well there's a major new version in the works right now for Rhapsody which adds
a bunch of new features including:
1) Multiple-server support
2) Full MIME and Base64 support
3) Multi-threaded User interface
4) Better kill/mark functionality (yes including colorization)
and more....
MailTIFF support is still up in the air and may not make it into the first
release.
Stay tuned.
>How about making it able to utilize MailTIFFs like Alexandra.app and giving
>it a marker-functionality like Colorizer.bundle for Mail.app. Then I would
>consider buying it. (-; And if it would even share the configfile with
>Colorizer.bundle it would truly kick.
>
>Christian
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer
For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader
visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com
_______________________________________________________________________
From: trail@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Trestrail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Multi-OS Boot problems!!
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 11:19:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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References: <33CABF58.F20A809C@iastate.edu>
In article <33CABF58.F20A809C@iastate.edu>, gomezjr@iastate.edu wrote:
>Who has experience with LILO-style boot managers with OpenStep???
>
>
>We have a Zenith P166 with 2 IDE drives (C: Win95, D: WinNT 4 as FAT16)
>and Prelude running off of a SCSI drive on an Adaptec 1542 card.
>
>Disable C: & D: in BIOS and OpenStep boots fine (as C: drive). Obviously
>we need a decent boot mgr. but LILO in Linux doesn't seem to detect the
>SCSI partition at all.
>
>If someone knows of a decent *free* boot utility that recognizes all of
>these OS's, let me know! Otherwise . . .
>
>I'd be just about as happy to boot from an OpenStep floppy like the
>Installer disk. However, when I issue a "sd()mach_kernel" from the
>"Boot:" prompt, I get the error "bad disk label magic" along with a
>bunch of Superblock 2 errors. Again, disable C: & D: and I can pass off
>to the SCSI kernel from the floppy just fine. This all goes against
>NextAnswers doc #1487.
>
Is the option for more than 2 drives under DOS enabled on the
Adaptec ?? If not, that would explain why you have to disconnect
the IDE drives; to enable the Adaptec's BIOS, which is necessary to
boot.
Regards,
Jeff Trestrail
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS User Dev Different versions
Date: 15 Jul 1997 11:44:52 GMT
Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
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In <33CABD9B.545A@bestweb.net> Jesse McCann wrote:
> Does anyone know if you can install different versions of NeXTSTEP User
> and Developer (ie NS 3.2 w/ developer 3.1)????
I know folks who did this with 3.3 user and 3.2 dev....
There were enough changes between 3.1 and 3.2 that it might not work for
those, however.
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
--
TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Date: 15 Jul 1997 15:46:07 GMT
Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt
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jbf@frazer.com (James Frazer) wrote:
>"In the interest of helping our longtime users, we are giving you a
>free 2 user license for all Lighthouse applications excluding FrameMaker
>(only available from Adobe Systems, Inc.), OmniWeb (which already has a
>1-user license) and JavaPlan (which is a currently shipping product).
Great move - applause.
At least they are no longer piffing off customers who try to give
them money for their apps by refusing to sell license strings. Who
knows, maybe Diagram might make it into Rhapsody. I have doubts
about the other apps, but there are alternatives. I'll probably
miss Concurrence though...
Of course, OmniGroup has already stated that OmniWeb will be
supported. Three cheers for the excellent folks at OmniGroup!
Best wishes, Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.."
// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/
// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreaders
Date: 15 Jul 1997 18:47:31 GMT
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In <5q63md$c8@luck.shnet.org> Christian Pekeler wrote:
> cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) wrote:
> >NewsFlash from WolfWare is a threaded newsreader (displays articles
"nested"
> >under the article they are replying too) with a graphical user interface.
>
> How about making it able to utilize MailTIFFs like Alexandra.app
Just a note: the new version of RadicalNews supports the MailTiff database
It has just been uploaded to peak
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/news/RadicalNews.0.9.2.NIHS.b.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/news/RadicalNews.0.9.2.README
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/news/RadicalNewsJ.0.9.2.NIHS.b.tar.gz
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
--
TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: krispos@cris.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LISP software for Mach 3.2
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:13:31 -0400
Organization: God Machine Beta .98
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Does anyone know of any LISP compilers/tools for Mach 3.2?
Thanks in advance
Krispos@cris.com
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From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.eunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Yap on NS3.2 ?
Date: 15 Jul 1997 21:00:45 GMT
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Beth Katz wrote:
> Chris aka keyser soze (bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu.nospam) wrote:
> > Does Yap run under 3.2 ? If not, is there a comparable
> > interactive postscript interpreter like Yap ?
>
> I was using Yap under 3.2 just a few days ago when I was waiting
> for my dead hard disk replacement (I have 3.2 on my internal
> hard disk and now 4.2 on my big external). And I've been using
> Yap under 4.0 and will under 4.2. It's even OpenStep-ified.
>
> Does that old colorstation have the developer apps or is it just
> NEXTSTEP User? My copy is in /NextDeveloper/Apps/Yap.app.
>
> I'm probably a little strange in that I use Yap to help me
> draw crossstitch charts in PostScript. Fun language.
If you are into PostScript hacking (unlike me ;), I highly
recommend BeYap.app by Frank Siegert (see the usual archives or
http://www.this.net/~frank/). It's based on Yap, but includes
a full-blown interactive PS debugger.
Holger
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From: ryan@macs.com. (Ryan Terp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Newbie Q] Relational Database for OPENSTEP
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:27:49 -0700
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Hi All
I'm new to the NeXT world and am wondering if any one can point me in the
direction of a good relational database for OPENSTEP. The only DBM I have
been able to find is DataPhile from Stone Design and it is not powerful
enough.
Thanks in advance for you're time
Ryan Terp
Advanced Computer Solutions
Technical Assistant
ryan@macs.com.
From: Andrew Engelmann <engelman@colorado.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Q: OPENSTEP 4.2 C-Program Accessing Matlab
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:36:35 -0600
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Has anyone ever written a C-Program under OPENSTEP 4.2 running on top of
Windows NT which makes calls to a Matlab computational engine?
-Drew
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University of Colorado
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From: dmoll@niu.edu (Brian Bergstrand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does the Netware Client work with NDS?
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 19:11:07 -0500
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Message-ID: <dmoll-1507971911070001@ts1-47.cso.niu.edu>
Hi,
Does the included Netware Client work with NDS at all, or
only with the older Netware 3.x servers? If it does not
work, is there a commercial or shaerware client that
does?
Thanks,
Brian
(Using Openstep 4.2 for Intel)
Brian Bergstrand
http://www.pair.com/dmoll/
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Multi-OS Boot problems!!
Date: 16 Jul 1997 00:38:34 GMT
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In <5qfm53$ogl@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Jeff Trestrail wrote:
> Is the option for more than 2 drives under DOS enabled on the
> Adaptec ?? If not, that would explain why you have to disconnect
> the IDE drives; to enable the Adaptec's BIOS, which is necessary to
> boot.
Where is this option?
I have an Adaptec and have trouble getting fdisk info when there are more
than 2 drives...
% fdisk /dev/rsd0h -diskSize
991
% fdisk /dev/rsd1h -diskSize
2055
% fdisk /dev/rsd2h -diskSize
fdisk: Bogus disk information in BIOS.
You probably need to check your SCSI or IDE card setup to make
sure that the BIOS is enabled. If the BIOS is disabled,
NEXTSTEP will be unable to get proper disk information.
% fdisk /dev/rsd3h -diskSize
fdisk: DOS partitioning requires 512 byte block size
% mount
/dev/sd0a on / type 4.3 (rw,noquota,noauto)
/dev/sd1a on /Disk type 4.3 (rw,noquota)
/dev/sd2a on /Backups type 4.3 (rw,noquota,removable)
/dev/rsd3h on /BGL5 type cfs (ro,removable,filesystem=CDROM)
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: planetary <kris@xmission.xmission.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does the Netware Client work with NDS?
Date: 15 Jul 1997 23:01:29 -0600
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Brian Bergstrand <dmoll@niu.edu> wrote:
: Does the included Netware Client work with NDS at all, or
: only with the older Netware 3.x servers?
I am having no success getting the NUC to talk to the Green River machine
that does file and print for my department.
I haven't yet asked my IS droid if the server has bindery compatibility
enabled. If it doesn't, and he enables it, I'll let you know one way or
another.
I might set up a test 4.10 server to see if that will work for me. Again,
I will let you know one way or another.
: If it does not work, is there a commercial or shaerware client that
: does?
How much would you pay for one? =)
The real answer is no, there isn't. (Cross your fingers.)
............kris
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From: szallies@energotec.de (Constantin Szallies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreaders
Date: 16 Jul 1997 08:30:38 GMT
Organization: Technet GmbH
Message-ID: <5qi0re$5ki$2@oxygen.technet.net>
References: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote:
>I am an ex 'tin' user and am now on 'Alexandra. The layout of 'Alexandra'
>is fine except for the fact that it doesn't appear to nest threads but
>lists them in a seemingly random order. So part of a thread could end up
>several articles down.
Try: Article->Sort->By Subject
>Also, the find command doesn't work and so finding authors/articles is very
>difficult.
The find panel is loaded as a separate bundle called MiscFindPanel.bundle.
Make sure it's there and that the permissions are set correctly.
Greetings
--
# Constantin Szallies, Energotec GmbH
# szallies@energotec.de
# 49211-9144018
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: NS User Dev Different versions
Message-ID: <EDEzDq.237@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <33CABD9B.545A@bestweb.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 13:41:49 GMT
In article <33CABD9B.545A@bestweb.net> Jesse McCann <ybco@bestweb.net>
writes:
> Does anyone know if you can install different versions of NeXTSTEP User
> and Developer (ie NS 3.2 w/ developer 3.1)????
>
The dev tools will not be the problem, but the libraries might.
It is definitely sure that NS 3.0 -> NS 3.1 was a radical break. And, of
course, the move to OS 4.0 was such a break. There might be some strange
effects due to incompatible header files. But I don't expect too many
problems with a lower version of the dev libs since the runtime is
downward compatible in most cases. You just loose some new features that
are not reflected in the headers.
--
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GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
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From: dapena@valeri.hper.indiana.edu
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Subject: libplot for NeXT
Date: 16 Jul 1997 18:09:56 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Message-ID: <5qj2pk$j81$1@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu>
Keywords: libplot plotting NeXT UNIX
Hi:
Does anyone out there know how I might get a hold of the source
file for the UNIX libplot library for the NeXT? Is it included in the
OpenStep CD-ROMs?
Jesus Dapena
--
Jesus Dapena
Department of Kinesiology
Indiana University
Bloomington, IN 47405, USA
1-812-855-8407
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From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wierd Terminal.app behavior
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 16:33:02 -0700
Organization: Stanford University
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On some machines I remotely connect to, I have a difficult time moving
around using the arrow keys in a vi session without getting control
characters. By way of explanation, if I move through a file using the down
arrow, I will eventually be interrupted by a system beep, the editor will
go into insert mode, and a 'B' will be displayed. If I try to move up I
will eventually be interrupted by an 'A'. Right is a 'C' and left is
a 'D'. This makes editing next to impossible on these machines.
It doesn't happen on all machines I log in to, but on too many to be a
coincidence. If I slow down the keyboard repeat rate, things improve, but
it still occurs.
I would appreciate any ideas to fix this. It's driving me crazy. Thanks.
Rob
rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
From: flickx@mindspring.com (Andre )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP: Hpw do I install and application?
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 00:41:44 GMT
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc.
Message-ID: <5qjpoo$s7t@camel1.mindspring.com>
Hi there to all you NeXT users.
I recently acquired a NeXT slab and I'll have to say, I love it! I
would like however to install the MonsterScope app that comes on the
3.0 OS CD-ROM on my system which runs 3.3 (i think)
How would I do this? Can it be done?
From: nextjoe@aol.com (NeXTJoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: speedy FTP of Lighthouse apps?
Date: 17 Jul 1997 00:40:57 GMT
Message-ID: <19970717004001.UAA29812@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
well, I'm thrilled at the news about the free license strings, but
apparently so is every other NeXT user on this planet. as a result, the
Lighthouse FTP site is dog-slow. is anyone mirroring the site? peak or
peanuts? I checked Peak's new arrivals this morning and they weren't
listed there.
thanks,
Joe
From: Scott Klein <scott@nytimes.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: config problem
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 20:53:44 -0400
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I'm installing NS3.3 on an Compaq Deskpro with SCSI CD-ROM and HD. All
goes well with the install.
When I reboot after install says "complete," the system asks me for the
floppy disk containing my SCSI driver (because it's not on the CD) and
when I put the "additional drivers" disk from NeXT into the PC (where I
got the driver in the first place), I get all kinds of bios errors and
bad superblocks, etc.
What gives? What am I doing wrong here?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Scott Klein
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:48:21 GMT
References: <jbf-ya023580001407970836320001@news.tiac.net>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <jbf-ya023580001407970836320001@news.tiac.net>,
James Frazer <jbf@frazer.com> wrote:
>Check http://www.lighthouse.com/CurrentProductVersionNumbers.html
>whence I quote:
>
>"In the interest of helping our longtime users, we are giving you a
>free 2 user license for all Lighthouse applications excluding FrameMaker
>(only available from Adobe Systems, Inc.), OmniWeb (which already has a
>1-user license) and JavaPlan (which is a currently shipping product).
All I can say is, BRAVO! I was going to go buy the Academic CD (really,
honest!) but this is wonderful.
Thank you Lighthouse!
--
David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP: Hpw do I install and application?
Date: 17 Jul 1997 04:52:32 GMT
Organization: Dental Records (R)
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In <5qjpoo$s7t@camel1.mindspring.com> Andre wrote:
> Hi there to all you NeXT users.
> I recently acquired a NeXT slab and I'll have to say, I love it! I
> would like however to install the MonsterScope app that comes on the
> 3.0 OS CD-ROM on my system which runs 3.3 (i think)
> How would I do this? Can it be done?
assuming you have a CD-ROM drive, you just copy it off the CD; or am I
missing something? I remember running this App on 3.2, so it should work.
--
Rick Sanford
Dental Records(R)
dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome
http://www.dentalrecords.com
From: arti@address.in.signature (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Date: 17 Jul 1997 05:03:55 GMT
Organization: LavaNet, Inc.
Distribution: world
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References: <jbf-ya023580001407970836320001@news.tiac.net> <sams.868911387@shellx>
sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) wrote:
> Apple has a rare opportunity here to do something really huge.
> Release NeXTstep 3.3 as unsupported freeware.
And I thought the Lighthouse download was taking forever :-) Wonder what
the gzip'ed size of NS 3.3 including Developer is??
--
Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti at lava dot net
Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511
OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495
managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
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From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Getting audio in NeXTtv
Date: 16 Jul 1997 23:08:21 -0700
Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16
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In article <5q73dh$63h@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes:
> Hi,
>
> The NeXT Dimension board has 2 RCA connectors and
> a Din-5 connector. Does one have to use the Din-5
> connector to get audio while watching NeXTtv?
The DIN-5 connector provides seperate R, G, and B outputs for use with mid
to high end studio monitors. Audio is not supported.
The NeXTdimension card only processes video. There is no audio support.
In general, audio is best handled with a small amplifier and speakers, such
as the cheap powered 'speakers' popular with PC systems. NeXT hardware
doesn't support simultaneous audio in and out.
--
Mike Paquette (mpaque AT wco.com ; Yank that .spa-am and nospam to reply.)
Well, if there *were* anything to say, it would be with the understanding
that the PR/Marketing people want to make the announcements on products,
so anything I have to say wouldn't actually exist until after then, so
what I might have to say now doesn't exist, and what I may say in future
can't be said, so theoretically what exists, doesn't, for the immediate future.
(With apologies to Joe Straczynski)
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From: wolfgang@mime.amg.de (Wolfgang Fehmer)
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Subject: Openstep Interface Elements
Date: 17 Jul 1997 05:42:06 GMT
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Hello,
I am searching for Interface Elements for Openstep ( something like a
TableView, Fields, Matrix etc. ).
Any proposition ?
Thanks in advance
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From: paul@oneclick.com (Paul Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: Please Help! Pulling hair out over install
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 01:10:58 -0700
Organization: One Click Systems
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References: <erich-0907972353490001@ppp-207-104-16-26.snrf01.pacbell.net>
In article <erich-0907972353490001@ppp-207-104-16-26.snrf01.pacbell.net>,
erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley) wrote:
> Ive about had it with the OpenStep 4.2 install.
> I am using a generic PC motherboard with an AMD chip. I am using the EIDE
> sockets on the board to connect my HD and CD-ROM.
> I have tried everything under the sun to get this thing running OpenStep
> 4.2 and time after time the install DIES at the exact same point.
>
> Can somebody out there that has installed OpenStep 4.2 onto an IDE HD with
> an ATAPI CDROM please give me some hints and clues as to what to do?
> Please?
I hope you've made some progress in the week since posting that, but if
you haven't, maybe you should consider putting in a SCSI controller and
SCSI CD. I've seen the notice about using IDE SCSI, but it looks like SCSI
solutions are more plentiful and tested. At least that's what worked for
me (Adaptec SCSI controller). Also, 4.2 didn't have any problem using my
2GB ATA (or IDE? not sure) hard drive in the DeskPro 5133.
Good luck,
Paul Collins
-- Paul Collins, Owner/Developer One Click Systems --
-- paul@oneclick.com http://www.oneclick.com/ --
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From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PDFViewer and NeXTStep 3.2
Date: 17 Jul 1997 14:44:08 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <5qlb3o$cv@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
Apparently there is a bug in display postscript in NS versions
prior to 3.3 which do not allow to view some inline images in
all PDF viewers that I tried. To quote one of the readme file:
Due to a bug in the decompression of CCITTFaxDecode images in the
Display PostScript used in NEXTSTEP versions prior to 3.3, this
version (or any following one) is recommended. As displaying such
images in 3.[012] might hang the app, a crossed box is drawn instead
and a warning panel appears.
I am using NS 3.2 on black hardware. Is there a workaround or a patch
to correct this problem without upgrading to 3.3?
Any help will be appreciated.
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|University of Pittsburgh | e-mail: |
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From: geordie@chapman.com (Geordie Korper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS User Dev Different versions
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:55:41 -0500
Organization: Chapman and Cutler
Message-ID: <geordie-ya02408000R1707970955410001@kyrie>
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In article <EDEzDq.237@nidat.sub.org>, Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de wrote:
:In article <33CABD9B.545A@bestweb.net> Jesse McCann <ybco@bestweb.net>
:writes:
:> Does anyone know if you can install different versions of NeXTSTEP User
:> and Developer (ie NS 3.2 w/ developer 3.1)????
:>
:The dev tools will not be the problem, but the libraries might.
:
:It is definitely sure that NS 3.0 -> NS 3.1 was a radical break. And, of
:course, the move to OS 4.0 was such a break. There might be some strange
:effects due to incompatible header files. But I don't expect too many
:problems with a lower version of the dev libs since the runtime is
:downward compatible in most cases. You just loose some new features that
:are not reflected in the headers.
I have developer 3.1 running with user 3.3 and have experienced no
problems, but I just installed it in order to be able to compile standard
unix apps. I have only used IB to show mac users how cool NeXTs are. YMMV
--
Geordie Korper geordie@chapman.com
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From: alanf@izzy.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Newbie Q] Relational Database for OPENSTEP
Date: 17 Jul 1997 17:03:19 GMT
Organization: "Comshare, Inc."
Message-ID: <5qlj8n$p9h$2@inet-prime.comshare.com>
References: <ryan-1507971427490001@ryan.macs.com>
Cc: ryan@macs.com.
In <ryan-1507971427490001@ryan.macs.com> Ryan Terp wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I'm new to the NeXT world and am wondering if any one can point me in the
> direction of a good relational database for OPENSTEP. The only DBM I have
> been able to find is DataPhile from Stone Design and it is not powerful
> enough.
Yup, DataPhile, while cool, isn't a relational db. Look at mSQL (free) or
OpenBase (commercial).
Regards,
Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net)
disclaimer: speaking for myself, not my employer.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Job and Income Opportunity - 123 Easy Web Promotion Reseller Program
Date: 17 Jul 1997 15:35:15 GMT
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From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PDF file
Date: 17 Jul 1997 16:43:05 GMT
Organization: SInet
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In <5qete9$ghe@ustsu10.ust.hk> Jesse Hau wrote:
>
> does anyone knows what is ODF file, in what software that i can open this
> kinds file?
>
> Jesse Hau
>
PDF files belong to Adobe Acrobat. You can get an Acrobat reader software
(for displaying this kind of files) for most operating systems on Adobe site:
http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html
However, Adobe does not provide a reader for NeXT, fortunately guys at
Omnigroup provided us with their excelent OmniPDF viewer, which can
be found at:
http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniPDF/
--
*** Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk? ***
Jonas Znidarsic
http://www.jonas.eunet.si
mailto:jonas@desetka.si
From: teb@eng.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Justify OpenWrite
Date: 17 Jul 1997 19:45:30 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <5qlsoq$b2a@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Hi,
we are having severe troubles in justifying
three lines of text in OpenWrite (Format->Text->Justify).
No spacings seem to be inserted and the final printout
looks only half as good as those of my competitors.
Thanks everybody for their help!
Thomas
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NeXT-Mail welcome, PGP-2.6.i key available.
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wierd Terminal.app behavior
Date: 17 Jul 1997 18:01:40 GMT
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
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References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970716162541.1227A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU>
In-reply-to: "Robert G. Jacobs"'s message of Wed, 16 Jul 1997 16:33:02 -0700
In article <Pine.NXT.3.96.970716162541.1227A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU>,
"Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> writes:
On some machines I remotely connect to, I have a difficult time
moving around using the arrow keys in a vi session without getting
control characters. By way of explanation, if I move through a file
using the down arrow, I will eventually be interrupted by a system
beep, the editor will go into insert mode, and a 'B' will be
displayed. If I try to move up I will eventually be interrupted by
an 'A'. Right is a 'C' and left is a 'D'. This makes editing next
to impossible on these machines.
It doesn't happen on all machines I log in to, but on too many to
be a coincidence. If I slow down the keyboard repeat rate, things
improve, but it still occurs.
I would appreciate any ideas to fix this. It's driving me crazy.
Thanks.
It may just be a problem you'll have to live with. The arrow keys are
implemented by sending ^[[A (ESC [ A) and so on. So far as I've been
able to determine, many programs code in a timeout for receiving the
second and third characters, and if they come in after the timeout,
they'll be interpretted as if you had just typed them directly.
I'm not really sure why this is, but I've seen similar things to what
you describe. Seldom, for sure, but sometimes. You might want to
learn the main keyboard keys (hjkl for left, down, up, right), they
won't have the problems the arrow keys have. C-n and C-p also work in
most vi's I've used. You might also consider trying a different vi,
such as vim or elvis - though I can't vouch for whether that will
actually _help_.
Later,
--
scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/
<Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen
of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LightHouse apps are on PEAK
Date: 18 Jul 1997 00:39:24 GMT
Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
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Note: according to
http://www.lighthouse.com/CurrentProductVersionNumbers.html
Quantrix is at version 2.4
OmniPDF is at version 2.1
however, I only found versions numbered one earlier. If anyone has or finds
later versions, please let me know.
The files on PEAK are:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/AirMail/AirMail.3.1.6.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/AirMail/READ.ME.AirMail.3.1.5.rtfd.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/Concurrence/Converter.2.5.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/Concurrence/README
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/Concurrence/Documentation.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/Concurrence/OmniImageFilter.pkg.tar
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/Concurrence/Concurrence.ps.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/Concurrence/Concurrence.2.77.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/Diagram/Diagram.ps.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/Diagram/Diagram.pkg.2.5.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/Quantrix/QAPI.2.3.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/Quantrix/Quantrix.2.3.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/Quantrix/Quantrix2.ps.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/Quantrix/FilterServicer.2.1.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/EquationBuilder/EquationBuilder.3.3.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/OpenWrite/OpenWrite.2.1.8.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/OpenWrite/READ.ME.rtfd.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/OpenWrite/Tables.2.0.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/OpenWrite/ConverterInstaller.2.1.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/ParaSheet/ParaSheet.ps.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/ParaSheet/ParaSheet.Documentation.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/ParaSheet/ParaSheet.1.7.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/TaskMaster/TaskMaster.ps.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/TaskMaster/FilterServicer.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/TaskMaster/TaskMaster.1.81.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/WetPaint/WetPaint.ps.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/WetPaint/WetPaint.1.7.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/VarioData/VarioData.ps.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/VarioData/VarioData.3.22.pkg.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/LightHouse/VarioBuilder/VarioBuilder.3.22.pkg.tar.gz
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: speedy FTP of Lighthouse apps?
Date: 17 Jul 1997 21:17:01 GMT
Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
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In <19970717004001.UAA29812@ladder01.news.aol.com> NeXTJoe wrote:
> well, I'm thrilled at the news about the free license strings, but
> apparently so is every other NeXT user on this planet. as a result, the
> Lighthouse FTP site is dog-slow. is anyone mirroring the site? peak or
> peanuts? I checked Peak's new arrivals this morning and they weren't
> listed there.
They aren't really new arrivals, since they have been on PEAK for some time
now.
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/LightHouse/
however, they may not all be there... I'll make sure they all get there soon
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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From: daj@nwu.edu
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Subject: Re: Where is WebMapper.app?
Date: 17 Jul 1997 17:40:15 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
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In Where is WebMapper.app? comp.sys.next.software <ArticleDisplayer: 0xaef5c> writes,
> I'm learning to develop web pages. I need a tool to give me pixel coordinates so I can us imagemaps in my web pages. I was told that WebMapper.app is the tool to use. I've looked everywhere and I can't find it or a demo of it.
>
> Can anyone tell me where to get/buy it?
>
> Thank's in advance,
>
> David A. Johnson
I found it, Thank's for all the help everyone.
From: Jessica Mosher <jessicam@unikix.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need to support pap with ppp with NS3.2 (Motorola 040 Cube)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:13:50 -0700
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Is there a port of ppp for NeXTstep that supports the pap logon
protocol?
I need to do with with my 040 cube running 3.2 developer.
Please send mail, and thanks in advance for your suggestions!
--
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From: ryan@omnigroup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [?] Newbie question to Project Builder
Date: 18 Jul 1997 05:32:53 GMT
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daj@nwu.edu wrote:
>I'm trying to build an existing application eample and learn from it. When
I try to build or clean the appication I get the following error:
>
>No Build Tool set for this platform. Please set one in the Build Attributes
Inspector.
You need to set your build tool to some variant of the "make" utility such as
/bin/gnumake
Hope this helps...
ryan
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Has anyone compiled sendmail 8.8.6?
Date: 18 Jul 1997 01:46:20 GMT
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sendmail 8.8.6 is out and has some minor fixes, but one of them would be
nice, as it allows for some nice anti-spam provisions.
see
http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/%7Eca/email/patches/sm_check_relay.p1.html
for the patch.
I was wondering if anyone had compiled 8.8.6, as I'd really rather not
compile sendmail myself.
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Date: 17 Jul 1997 03:42:11 GMT
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Cool!
Guess its still a little to soon to retire the old black slab. But a bigger
hd is now a must!
Does someone have summaries of these products? Not all have readme's. Also,
how about reports on which ones are buggy? I've used Diagram2.0 for years,
and its very good. OTOH, I tried Parasheet1.5 (not the last ver.), and it
crashes quite easily.
Q: Can Concurrence import/export Powerpoint?
Q: Can OpenWrite *reliably* import/export M$ Word?
Thanks,
Mike
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: NS User Dev Different versions
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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 18:43:40 GMT
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Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <5qfnrk$f68$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>,
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote:
>In <33CABD9B.545A@bestweb.net> Jesse McCann wrote:
>> Does anyone know if you can install different versions of NeXTSTEP User
>> and Developer (ie NS 3.2 w/ developer 3.1)????
>
>I know folks who did this with 3.3 user and 3.2 dev....
>
3.2 Developer on 3.3 User was, as far as I know, the only supported "mixed"
configuration. This is because 3.3 User was ready a while (two months? can't
recall) before 3.3 Developer. I remember some "excitement" from those who
bought the first round of 3.3 Academic Bundles when they saw the 3.2 Dev
inside.
>There were enough changes between 3.1 and 3.2 that it might not work for
>those, however.
>
I wouldn't touch anything involving 3.1. It was the first MAB release and
had a few problems. 3.2 is your friend, though--I ran it for over three
years until I got 3.3.
--
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Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
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Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TeXview
Date: 18 Jul 1997 09:37:31 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
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hi all,
i have installed TeTeX and used the new TeXview program. it works just
fine. but when i tried to use the other programs i found out something
wrong:
- HyperTexview: for viewing several documents at the same time. the
problem is when i modified the same source and Ctrl-L the preview
window, i got a new preview window --> after some modifications i got
several windows of the same documents. i could close an old window when
i get a new one, but the program should do it for me, right?
- TeXview-grey: the grey preview is only about 1/4 of the preview window
--> if you see it in grey it's smaller, if you see it in normal it's
bigger. i think it should be always the same size.
- and finally, has anyone ever combined HyperTexview and Texview-grey?
--> we will have a multi-document, antialiasing Tex viewer.
khanh,
From: jbf@frazer.com (James Frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 06:57:00 -0400
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In article <5qk4aj$e6v@rumah.pc.my>, michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) wrote:
> Q: Can Concurrence import/export Powerpoint?
Not the latest MS format, but there is a compatible choice. You'll
probably loose any big bitmaps on the slides.
> Q: Can OpenWrite *reliably* import/export M$ Word?
As above. I've lost things like headers and footers with 1.X. Haven't
tried 2.X yet. I've heard that some of the older MS formats transfer
more reliably.
In other words, plan to experiment.
From: anstine@orion.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Converting NextMail mboxes to MIME
Date: 17 Jul 1997 15:58:14 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <5qlfem$ekn@netnews.upenn.edu>
We have a NeXT installation here that will soon be moving to Windows NT.
The mail client will most likely either be Eudora or Netscape.
We will need to convert our users' mailboxes from NextMail to MIME.
Specifically, if they have messages that have NextMail attachments, we
will need to reincoporate the attachment back into the mbox file and
convert it to MIME, including any headers in that particular message that
will need to be changed.
Most of the attachments are either postscript files or WP for NeXT, which
is WP4.2 compatible. So, I don't think there will be an initial headache
of converting the attachments to a Windows compatible format.
But this business of reincoporating the attachments back into the mbox
file, and converting it all to MIME has me scratching my head. This does
not seem like an easy thing to do. Hopefully someone has already solved
this problem, otherwise we're going to have to write some crazy code for
this task.
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated.
-dave
From: info@scribex.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LightHouse apps are on PEAK
Date: 18 Jul 1997 10:17:17 GMT
Organization: VTL
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In-Reply-To: <5qmdvs$46c$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
As the French translator of Quantrix, I've never heard of v.2.4.
v.2.3 was (is) the last version of Quantrix. 2.4 is a typo!
OmniWeb and OmniPDF are OmniGroup (not Lighthouse) products.
The current "official release" of OmniWeb is 2.5.
http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/2.0/Download.html
The latest beta version is OmniWeb-2.6b3 (July 17, 1997).
ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/OmniWeb/
The latest version of OmniPDF is v.2.1.2 (March 27, 1997)
ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/OmniPDF/
The latest version of Airmail is 3.1.8 (July 15, 1997)
ftp://ftp.lighthouse.com/pub/products/AirMail/AirMail-3.1.8.pkg.tar.gz
Hope this helps.
-Andre
www.scribex.com
===========================================
On 07/17/97, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:
>
> Note: according to
> http://www.lighthouse.com/CurrentProductVersionNumbers.html
> Quantrix is at version 2.4
> OmniPDF is at version 2.1
>
> however, I only found versions numbered one earlier.
> If anyone has or finds later versions, please let me know.
>
> --------------------cut-----------------
> TjL <luomat@peak.org>
> f ` cn rd ths ` my hv lrnd hbrw
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From: "Simon Glet" <siglet@cam.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmers,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: Openstep Interface Elements
Date: 18 Jul 1997 00:18:38 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada
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Hi,
If you work with a Windows NT plaform use OpenStep Enterprise 4.2 and for
OpenStep for intel or NeXt machine you wil have to use the developer
release.
The Objective-C language provides all the elements you are looking for.
Regards
Simon Glet
Wolfgang Fehmer <wolfgang@mime.amg.de > wrote in article
<5qkbbe$4ob@hagen.amg.de>...
> Hello,
>
> I am searching for Interface Elements for Openstep ( something like a
> TableView, Fields, Matrix etc. ).
>
> Any proposition ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Date: 18 Jul 1997 13:19:52 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
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References: <5qk4aj$e6v@rumah.pc.my>
In article <5qk4aj$e6v@rumah.pc.my> michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan)
writes:
I'm posting this for posterity's sake... (-;
> Q: Can Concurrence import/export Powerpoint?
import, yes. export, no.
> Q: Can OpenWrite *reliably* import/export M$ Word?
Yes. reliably, well, it's not perfect. Images oftentimes don't translate,
and formatting (especially tables) are sometimes a little goofy. The
content is 99.9% translated well.
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Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Thomas Youkel <tyoukel@pepco.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scanner Software
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:27:29 -0400
Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com>
Message-ID: <33CF6F41.358C@pepco.com>
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I've acquired an old HSD Color Scanner and was wondering if there is
software other than Scan-O-Matic available. The other 2 scanner products
I found on Peak and Peanuts don't work with it.
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb 2.6 even slower with tables?
Date: 18 Jul 1997 14:38:59 GMT
Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center
Message-ID: <5qnv63$25o@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
Hi,
since I often look at web pages with large tables I am really annoyed with
OmniWeb's speed when running SGMLtoRTF.
So I set my hopes on OmniWeb 2.6 which I heard is supposed to accelerate the
display of tables.
However, a local sample html file with a large table that takes unbearable
90 s to convert with OmniWeb 2.5 on my machine (Pentium 90 MHz, 80 MB RAM),
takes even longer (100 s !) with the brand new OmniWeb 2.6b3 :-((
Anybody has similar experiences?
Bye
Uli
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From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:07:36 +0200
Organization: Max Plank Institut for Polymer Research
Message-ID: <33CF1638.2781@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
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Christian Neuss wrote:
>
> jbf@frazer.com (James Frazer) wrote:
> >"In the interest of helping our longtime users, we are giving you a
> >free 2 user license for all Lighthouse applications excluding FrameMaker
> >(only available from Adobe Systems, Inc.), OmniWeb (which already has a
> >1-user license) and JavaPlan (which is a currently shipping product).
>
> Great move - applause.
>
This means they absolutely gave up this market segment. There is no more
support for any of this products.
I think lighthouse won't do openstep or real Rhapsody apps any more.
Only java stuff for sun.
stefan
______________________________________________________________________
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From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6 even slower with tables?
Date: 18 Jul 1997 14:56:40 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University
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Subject(OmniWeb 2.6 even slower with tables?) you wrote
> Hi,
>
> since I often look at web pages with large tables I am really annoyed with
> OmniWeb's speed when running SGMLtoRTF.
>
> So I set my hopes on OmniWeb 2.6 which I heard is supposed to accelerate the
> display of tables.
>
> However, a local sample html file with a large table that takes unbearable
> 90 s to convert with OmniWeb 2.5 on my machine (Pentium 90 MHz, 80 MB RAM),
> takes even longer (100 s !) with the brand new OmniWeb 2.6b3 :-((
>
> Anybody has similar experiences?
>
I haven't measured any loading times, but for me 2.6bx feels faster than 2.5. But I most also say that most tables that I work with aren't nearly as large as what you describe.
BTW, I was thrilled to see that 2.6b3 can at least load and page once through animated gifs now. Can wait to see this fully implemented.
HP
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From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Has anyone compiled sendmail 8.8.6?
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:21:29 -0600
Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <distler-1807971121290001@slip-118-11.ots.utexas.edu>
References: <5qmhtc$46c$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
In article <5qmhtc$46c$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, luomat@peak.org (Timothy
J. Luoma) wrote:
> sendmail 8.8.6 is out and has some minor fixes, but one of them would be
> nice, as it allows for some nice anti-spam provisions.
>
> see
> http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/%7Eca/email/patches/sm_check_relay.p1.html
> for the patch.
>
> I was wondering if anyone had compiled 8.8.6, as I'd really rather not
> compile sendmail myself.
If it is like any of the previous versions of Sendmail, it will compile
right out of the box under NextStep. Don't be afraid . . .
Jacques
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <ced016@email.mot.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LightHouse apps are on PEAK
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:47:49 -0500
Organization: Motorola, Fixed Products Design Center Computer Support Group, Schaumburg, IL, USA, Earth
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To: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org>
Timothy J. Luoma wrote:
> Note: according to
> http://www.lighthouse.com/CurrentProductVersionNumbers.html
> Quantrix is at version 2.4
> OmniPDF is at version 2.1
>
> however, I only found versions numbered one earlier. If anyone has or
> finds
> later versions, please let me know.
>
See http://www.lighthouse.com/ftp.htmland
http://www.lighthouse.com/FCSLicense.html
and
ftp://ftp.lighthouse.com/pub/For instance, (I haven't checked yet) I
think the following file may be Quantrix 2.4 -
ftp://ftp.lighthouse.com/pub/products/Quantrix/Quantrix.pkg.tar.gz Thu
Feb 27 20:06:00 1997 Symbolic link
OmniPDF 2.1.2 is available via
http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniPDF/Download.html
Regards,
Eric
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From: atl2@lehigh.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Justify OpenWrite
Date: 18 Jul 1997 18:12:11 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <5qoblr$15c4@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU>
References: <5qlsoq$b2a@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
In article <5qlsoq$b2a@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> teb@eng.cam.ac.uk writes:
> Hi,
>
> we are having severe troubles in justifying
> three lines of text in OpenWrite (Format->Text->Justify).
>
> No spacings seem to be inserted and the final printout
> looks only half as good as those of my competitors.
>
OpenWrite's formatting routines are notoriously buggy. I have worked with
the application for several years and have no ready solution.
--
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Lehigh University
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: [Newbie Q] Relational Database for OPENSTEP
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:12:01 GMT
References: <ryan-1507971427490001@ryan.macs.com>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <ryan-1507971427490001@ryan.macs.com>,
Ryan Terp <ryan@macs.com.> wrote:
>Hi All
>
>I'm new to the NeXT world and am wondering if any one can point me in the
>direction of a good relational database for OPENSTEP. The only DBM I have
>been able to find is DataPhile from Stone Design and it is not powerful
>enough.
>
There's OpenBase. I can't remember the URL of its creators but you can get
to it from http://www.stepwise.com/
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Newbie Q] Relational Database for OPENSTEP
Date: 19 Jul 1997 04:08:53 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
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In-Reply-To: <EDGvG2.Aw1@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
On 07/17/97, David Evans wrote:
>In article <ryan-1507971427490001@ryan.macs.com>,
>Ryan Terp <ryan@macs.com.> wrote:
>>Hi All
>>
>>I'm new to the NeXT world and am wondering if any one can point me
in the
>>direction of a good relational database for OPENSTEP. The only DBM I
have
>>been able to find is DataPhile from Stone Design and it is not
powerful
>>enough.
>>
>
> There's OpenBase. I can't remember the URL of its creators but you
can get
>to it from http://www.stepwise.com/
Well, certainly not wanting to turn anyone away from Stepwise
(especially with all the new and original content now on it :-P) but
the Openbase site is
www.openbase.com
Who'd have guessed it huh? :-)
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From: daj@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP with SCSI device problem
Date: 19 Jul 1997 04:45:49 GMT
Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net
Message-ID: <5qpgpt$sgs$2@excalibur.flash.net>
Hello everyone,
I
First let me preface with I'm new to developing under OpenStep and ObjectiveC most of my work is done in Mathematica or just 'C'.
I have a SCSI data acquisition device that was manufactured by Analogic, its model DASM-AD14. Technically it is a 14bit 2Mhz 8 channel acquisition device that has a 2Mb buffer and a SCSI interface.
Here's my problem:
Analogic provided instructions and the basic outline for acquisition code for a Sun3 or SPARC system using SunOS4.0, and I'm trying to port it over to the NeXT/Intel system.
Analogic says the device can be accessed at /dev/rsdnc, where n is the scsi appropriate device number . Well I've got a properly terminated system and the acquisition device is SCSI ID target 6 LUN 0. Now the problem is analogic says it can be accessed by:
char *dev_name="/dev/rsd4c";
open (dev_name, O_RDWR);
but when I check /usr/adm/messages I have the errors at the bottom of this post:. Also, if I go ahead and run the program it doesn't open the device.
I'm running OpenStep 4.1 on Intel hardware and I have a Adaptec 2940 SCSI Controller. I figure I probably need to write some sort of device driver for the acquisition system labeled CDA ADC 2.0 .
First I haven't the faintest idea on how to write a device driver, although I've hacked quite a few C programs, I've only just begun understanding ObjectiveC.
Next, in preparation I've been peaking through my system and reading everything I can get my eyes on and I found in /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/ReleaseNotes/DriverDevelopment.rtf the following:
OPENSTEP 4.1 cannot be used to develop Mach device drivers. Because NEXTSTEP 3.3 device drivers work on OPENSTEP 4.1 systems, we recommend that you use NEXTSTEP 3.3 Developer to create device drivers.
So to make a long story shorter than what it could be, is the above note true or is there some patch I can apply to allow me to write a device driver under Openstep 4.1? Can I get NEXTSTEP3.3 Developer and use it under OPENSTEP 4.1? Last, I'm still not clear in understanding why I can't just use /dev/rsd4c as the Analogic manual suggests. The requirement as Analogic has it in there manual is that their DASM-AD14 communicates through a character-special file (ie /dev/rsd4c). Clearly the device appears unwritable (in messages below), however it should be writable. Can anyone explain why I see this problem?
Oh yeah, the last note is that Analogic no longer supports the device, it appeared to be to costly to produce so there wasnt enough demand. As a result I have virttually no help from Analogic.
Thank's in advance,
David A. Johnson
daj@nwu.edu
Northwestern University
( this is just a snippet from messages )
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: sd3: iomega jaz 1GB H.72
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: sd3 at Target 5 LUN 0 at sc0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: sd3: Waiting for drive to come ready..............
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: sd3: Disk Not Ready
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: sd4: CDA ADC 2.0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: sd4: Illegal request; FATAL.
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: target:6 lun:0 op:Mode Sense
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: sd4 at Target 6 LUN 0 at sc0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: sd4: Illegal request; FATAL.
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: target:6 lun:0 op:Mode Sense
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: sd4: WRITE PROTECTED. FATAL.
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: target:6 lun:0 op:Read block:0 blockCount:15
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: sd4: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: sd4: Device Capacity: 2048 KB
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: sd4: Disk Label: UntitledDisk
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: sg0 at sc0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: sg1 at sc0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: sg2 at sc0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: sg3 at sc0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: hc0: device detected at port 0x1f0 irq 14
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: sd4: WRITE PROTECTED. FATAL.
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: target:6 lun:0 op:Read block:0 blockCount:15
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: hc0: Checking for ATA drive 0... Detected
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: hc0: Checking for ATA drive 1...
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: hc0: Checking for ATAPI device 1...
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: hc0: Resetting drives..
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: hc0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: hd0: Conner Peripherals 850MB - CFA850A 8DT0.41
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: hd0: 1652 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 spt (disk geometry)
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: hd0: using multisector (32) transfers.
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: hd0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: hd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: hd0: Device Capacity: 813 MB
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: hd0: Disk Label: Disk
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: ISASerialPort0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: ISASerialPort0: Base=0x03f8, IRQ=4, Type=16550AF/C/CF, FIFO=16
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: ISASerialPort1
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: ISASerialPort1: Base=0x02f8, IRQ=3, Type=16550AF/C/CF, FIFO=16
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: fc0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: fd0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: PS2Controller
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: PCKeyboard0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: PCI bus support enabled
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: PCI0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: EISA0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: event0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: kmDevice0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: rootdev 300, howto 0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: PS2Mouse
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: pp0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Display0: vendorID=5333 deviceID=88d0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Display0: physicalAddress = 40000000
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Display0: 4MB RAM installed.
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Display: Mode selected: 1280 x 1024 @ 60 Hz (RGB:256/8)
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: Display0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: DECchip21040: PCI Dev: 19 Func: 0 Bus: 0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: en0
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: DECchip21040 based adapter at port 0xfc00 irq 9
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB Ethernet"
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: en0: Ethernet address 00:00:92:90:4a:1e
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: SB16 probed
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: SoundBlaster16 hardware version is 4.13
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: SoundBlaster16 at dma channels 1 and 5 irq 5
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: SoundBlaster16
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: PDPseudo
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: ttya
Jul 18 14:38:56 Siqin mach: Registering: ttyb
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From: daj@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [?] Newbie question to Project Builder
Date: 18 Jul 1997 15:20:09 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Distribution: world
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Sorry for the panic but I figured it out. It appears that Build Tool sets itself to gnumake, however unless you enter the field and press enter it doesn't seem to stick. When I opened the inspector, I saw it was set to gnumake and assumed then that I could close the inspector. NOPE! You have to enter the field and press enter or it won't be entered into ProjectBuilder!
David A. Johnson
In [?] Newbie question to Project Builder comp.sys.next.software <ArticleDisplayer: 0xc23f0> writes,
> I'm trying to build an existing application eample and learn from it. When I try to build or clean the appication I get the following error:
>
> No Build Tool set for this platform. Please set one in the Build Attributes Inspector.
>
>
> Can anyone tell me what I need to set the 'Build Tool' to? Is it Makefile?
>
> Thank's in advance,
>
>
> David A. Johnson
>
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6 even slower with tables?
Date: 19 Jul 1997 09:33:26 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
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schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub) wrote:
> I haven't measured any loading times, but for me 2.6bx feels
> faster than 2.5. But I most also say that most tables that I
> work with aren't nearly as large as what you describe.
2.6b2 seemed faster, but the latest release, 2.6b3, seems a good
bit pokier (at least on my pentium90). It might have something to
do w/ animated gifs? Or the ___resizable, movable, frames
panels!!!____. Well, at least in part, I went to a few sites, and
some of the frame panels are movable, kewl :) Dunno, but I'm a
bit sorry I wiped 2.6b2...it did seem to be the snappiest version
thusfar...
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From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Has anyone compiled sendmail 8.8.6?
Date: 19 Jul 1997 14:49:58 GMT
Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
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In <distler-1807971121290001@slip-118-11.ots.utexas.edu> Jacques Distler
wrote:
> In article <5qmhtc$46c$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, luomat@peak.org (Timothy
> J. Luoma) wrote:
> > I was wondering if anyone had compiled 8.8.6, as I'd really rather not
> > compile sendmail myself.
>
> If it is like any of the previous versions of Sendmail, it will compile
> right out of the box under NextStep. Don't be afraid . . .
Does that include NetInfo? I'm not sure how sendmail & NetInfo interface
(boy, combine NetInfo and sendmail, there's no end to the amount of aspects I
don't know about) but I'm pretty sure that they do, or need to, or should
Any info appreciated
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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From: tfu@bigfoot.com (Thomas F. Unke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: popclient with spam filter ?
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:08:03 GMT
Organization: Disorganization
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Hi, I'm looking for a POP3 client which has a SPAM filter. I'm thinking of a
configurable list of spam-addresses which will be automatically deleted
(without being downloaded) or even better, bounced. Does something like this
exist for NeXT / Unix ?
From: markfr@w-markfr .cse.tek.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ppd for Phase 240
Date: 19 Jul 1997 18:38:59 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR USA
Distribution: USA
Message-ID: <5qr1k3$oau$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com>
Can anyone tell me where I can get a ppd file
for a Tektronix phaser 240 printer?
- Thanks, Mark
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mark.s.frank@tek.com
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From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Has anyone compiled sendmail 8.8.6?
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 16:54:35 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <0noGa=S00UhBA1yzgW@andrew.cmu.edu>
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 18-Jul-97 Has anyone
compiled sendmai.. by Timothy J. Luoma@peak.or
> I was wondering if anyone had compiled 8.8.6, as I'd really rather not
> compile sendmail myself.
I've compiled it, and I suppose I could send a binary (or even make a
package out of it if I get really motivated). However, it compiles and
installs correctly right out of the box.
Unpack the source, 'cd src', './makesendmail', 'make install'.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer
----------------+---------------------+---------------------
I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net
Supersedes: <1452867556825@digifix.com>
Date: 20 Jul 1997 03:54:17 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <11913869371228@digifix.com>
Topics include:
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
NeXTanswers
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites
============================================
The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW
sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise.
Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server
http://www.stepwise.com
Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community
since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site
include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer
Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of
FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep
related Frequently Asked Questions.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America.
NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org
http://www.peak.org/next
http://www.peak.org/openstep
PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North
America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP
site.
Apple Enterprise Software Group
(formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.)
http://www.next.com
Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with
information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software
patches.
Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site
http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html
This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to
learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody,
today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection
of pointers, references, and starting points for developers
who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at
this year's Worldwide Developer Conference.
OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups
====================================================
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything
else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically
to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new
products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial
announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post
to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to
next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish)
will screen them for suitability.
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software.
Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so
this is a place for the net community find out about problems
when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor
signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that
really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific
groups as well.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible
with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware
are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place
to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be
crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate
regional newsgroups.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post
here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e.
no crossposting!!!
COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers.
This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products
that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare
cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software.
** RELATED NEWSGROUPS **
COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined.
Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and
comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope
similar to NEXTSTEP.
COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
COMP.OBJECT
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again
OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original
comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements
of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
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Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups
are now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep
next-advocacy
next-announce
next-bugs
next-hardware
next-marketplace
next-misc
next-programmer
next-software
next-sysadmin
object
lang-objective-c
(For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's.
To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying:
subscribe
where * is the name of the list
e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com
Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites
=================================
ftp://ftp.next.peak.org
The main site for North American submissions formerly
ftp.cs.orst.edu
ftp://ftp.peanuts.org:
(Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site.
Very well maintained.
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next
NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands)
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next
eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com:
See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to
nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by
default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
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If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
_________________________________________________________________
Written by:
Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and
Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com )
Additions from:
Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com )
Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net )
Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
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From: jem@xpat.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 20 Jul 1997 03:53:06 GMT
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From: Abdul Safar<ASE1000@1stfamily.com>
Subject: Free Internet Access World Wide
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: swagner@studi1.unizh.ch (Simon Wagner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: login-panel replacement?
Date: 20 Jul 1997 08:31:47 GMT
Organization: University of Zurich, Switzerland
Message-ID: <5qsidj$5ah@rzunews.unizh.ch>
Hi,
I'm looking for a way to replace the login panel by some sort of other panel,
where I can associate vrtain keypresses with scripts that sould be executed
and one key that gives me the standard loginpanel.
idea behind it is that I can interact without being logged in...
solutions?
thnx
simon
--
Drive carefully; 90% of people are caused by accidents!
From: "Greg Shaw" <gshaw@zeta.org.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Launch of WebObjects Builder on Rhapsody on Mach fails
Date: 20 Jul 1997 10:18:56 GMT
Organization: Decisionware
Message-ID: <01bc94f6$43289510$040b1acb@decisionware>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have installed WebObjects from the Prelude disks on both NT and Mach.
Unfortunately, only the NT version is working fully.
I could not find a version of EOF for Mach on any of the disks so I
installed a 2.0 pr2 version that I had lying around from the Beta program.
Now when I try to Launch WebObjectsBuilder I get a console message saying
'Please link appropriate classes into your application'. It does not
mention what classes need to be linked.
Has anybody managed to load and run WebObjects under OS4.2. If so, are you
running EOF? If so, what version? Indeed, If you have WebObjectsBuilder
running under OS4.2 from the Prelude disks could you please reply with your
software version numbers as thoroughly as possible so that I can compare
them with mine?
Has anybody else seen this problem? Any hints as to what I need to look
at?
TIA, Greg Shaw.
From: wiz@wiz.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ! Submission Wizard !
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 02:44:55 GMT
Organization: The Wizard
Message-ID: <5qru37$118_014@news.tamcotec.com>
Submit your Site for FREE to over 500 search engines +
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 20 Jul 1997 12:02:44 GMT
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From: Trey McClendon <tgm@hiwaay.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: popclient with spam filter ?
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 08:44:51 -0500
Organization: haphazard
Message-ID: <33D21653.C7EAD96C@hiwaay.net>
References: <1997Jul19.100803.573@gamelan.shnet.org>
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To: "Thomas F. Unke" <tfu@bigfoot.com>
Thomas F. Unke wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm looking for a POP3 client which has a SPAM filter. I'm thinking of a
> configurable list of spam-addresses which will be automatically deleted
> (without being downloaded) or even better, bounced. Does something like this
> exist for NeXT / Unix ?
I've been using a perl script for almost 2 weeks now called NAGS
(Netizens Against Gratuitous Spamming) and it works very well. It is
called with a pipe in your .forward file. The perl script consults a
list of known spammer domains and cans the message if from one, except
for users from that domain that are in your exceptions file.
A log is kept and spam messages are sent to a junk folder for deletion
(and safety).
I forgot the URL, but do a search of the name above in parenthesis and
you'll get it. It is freeware.
Trey
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: popclient with spam filter ?
Date: 20 Jul 1997 16:53:42 GMT
Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
Message-ID: <5qtfqm$jj0$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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Cc: tfu@bigfoot.com
In <1997Jul19.100803.573@gamelan.shnet.org> Thomas F. Unke wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm looking for a POP3 client which has a SPAM filter. I'm thinking of
a
> configurable list of spam-addresses which will be automatically deleted
> (without being downloaded) or even better, bounced. Does something like
this
> exist for NeXT / Unix ?
This is really beyond the scope of a POP client.
What you want is is procmail and the spam-bouncer
(http://www.best.com/~ariel/nospam). If you're lucky and your ISP provides
you with a shell account on the machine where your mail is delivered, then
you should be able to install it right there and have it bounce before you
even download it.
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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TjL <luomat@peak.org>
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Date: 20 Jul 1997 12:02:41 GMT
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From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Date: 19 Jul 1997 21:19:37 GMT
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In <33CF1638.2781@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Stefan Ried wrote:
> Christian Neuss wrote:
> >
> > jbf@frazer.com (James Frazer) wrote:
> > >"In the interest of helping our longtime users, we are giving you a
> > >free 2 user license for all Lighthouse applications excluding
FrameMaker
> > >(only available from Adobe Systems, Inc.), OmniWeb (which already
has a
> > >1-user license) and JavaPlan (which is a currently shipping
product).
> >
> > Great move - applause.
> >
>
> This means they absolutely gave up this market segment. There is no
more
> support for any of this products.
While I'm elated that Lighthouse has done this I see they STILL don't
release OmniDistill. They've had a PDF distiller for over a year and
won't sell a single license because its a "network" product (I don't
have a network)
I'd like to encourage Lighthouse to place OmniDistill on the table,
please.
Or I can wait for Frank to finish his shareware distiller and gladly pay
him. Anybody who wants to learn postscript should try his BeYap
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From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Launch of WebObjects Builder on Rhapsody on Mach fails
Date: 20 Jul 1997 20:35:50 GMT
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In article <01bc94f6$43289510$040b1acb@decisionware> "Greg Shaw" <gshaw@zeta.org.au>
writes:
>I have installed WebObjects from the Prelude disks on both NT and Mach.
>Unfortunately, only the NT version is working fully.
>I could not find a version of EOF for Mach on any of the disks so I
>installed a 2.0 pr2 version that I had lying around from the Beta program.
>Now when I try to Launch WebObjectsBuilder I get a console message saying
>'Please link appropriate classes into your application'. It does not
>mention what classes need to be linked.
>
>Has anybody managed to load and run WebObjects under OS4.2. If so, are you
>running EOF? If so, what version? Indeed, If you have WebObjectsBuilder
>running under OS4.2 from the Prelude disks could you please reply with your
>software version numbers as thoroughly as possible so that I can compare
>them with mine?
>
>Has anybody else seen this problem? Any hints as to what I need to look
>at?
I've seen it. Apple forgot to put EOF for Mach on the Prelude CD's.
You can download EOF from somewhere on http://devworld.apple.com
>
>TIA, Greg Shaw.
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: HELP with SCSI device problem
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In article <5qpgpt$sgs$2@excalibur.flash.net> daj@nwu.edu writes:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I First let me preface with I'm new to developing under OpenStep
> and ObjectiveC most of my work is done in Mathematica or just
> 'C'.
>
> I have a SCSI data acquisition device that was manufactured by
> Analogic, its model DASM-AD14. Technically it is a 14bit 2Mhz
> 8 channel acquisition device that has a 2Mb buffer and a SCSI
> interface.
>
> Here's my problem:
> Analogic provided instructions and the basic outline for
> acquisition code for a Sun3 or SPARC system using SunOS4.0,
> and I'm trying to port it over to the NeXT/Intel system.
>
> Analogic says the device can be accessed at /dev/rsdnc,
> where n is the scsi appropriate device number . Well I've
> got a properly terminated system and the acquisition device
> is SCSI ID target 6 LUN 0. Now the problem is analogic
> says it can be accessed by:
> char *dev_name="/dev/rsd4c"; open (dev_name,
> O_RDWR);
> but when I check /usr/adm/messages I have the errors at the bottom
> of this post:. Also, if I go ahead and run the program it doesn't
> open the device.
>
> I'm running OpenStep 4.1 on Intel hardware and I have a Adaptec
> 2940 SCSI Controller. I figure I probably need to write some
> sort of device driver for the acquisition system labeled CDA ADC
> 2.0 .
>
> First I haven't the faintest idea on how to write a device driver,
> although I've hacked quite a few C programs, I've only just begun
> understanding ObjectiveC.
>
> Next, in preparation I've been peaking through my system and
> reading everything I can get my eyes on and I found in
> /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/ReleaseNotes/DriverDevelopment.rtf
> the following:
>
> OPENSTEP 4.1 cannot be used to develop Mach device drivers.
> Because NEXTSTEP 3.3 device drivers work on OPENSTEP 4.1 systems,
> we recommend that you use NEXTSTEP 3.3 Developer to create device
> drivers.
>
>
> So to make a long story shorter than what it could be, is the
> above note true or is there some patch I can apply to allow me
> to write a device driver under Openstep 4.1? Can I get NEXTSTEP3.3
> Developer and use it under OPENSTEP 4.1? Last, I'm still not
> clear in understanding why I can't just use /dev/rsd4c as the
> Analogic manual suggests. The requirement as Analogic has it in
> there manual is that their DASM-AD14 communicates through a
> character-special file (ie /dev/rsd4c). Clearly the device
> appears unwritable (in messages below), however it should be
> writable. Can anyone explain why I see this problem?
>
> Oh yeah, the last note is that Analogic no longer supports the
> device, it appeared to be to costly to produce so there wasnt
> enough demand. As a result I have virttually no help from
> Analogic.
>
Simply said, the problem is that NEXTSTEP is not Solaris.
The device relies on being accessed through the SCSI-disk driver in
raw-mode. Now, I can't really speak about the Solaris way of doing
things, but it seems SUN is mapping drives statically. NEXTSTEP, relying
on Mach not Sys V, is configuring disks dynamically at boot time. From
the boot log you attached to the original post the device is recognized as
a disk drive but the parameter negotiation failed. Therefore, the drive
is not available.
It goes beyond my capacity to give advice on how the SCSI-disk drive could
be approached to accept this device as intended. But short from writing a
Mach device driver (I doubt you could do this for a SCSI device) you
should be able to use the generic SCSI driver (see man-page on 'sg').
But before you try the capacity of a 45 Colt to serve as a fly swat let's
first try some reason ;-)
The instructions for the device tell us to use the raw or character device
to access the unit. Now I'm astounded by doing this through partition
'c'. Might be this is a Solaris specific trick. The man-page on 'sd'
tells us that the raw device to access an unlabeled disk is through
partition 'h', which is the BSD way I'm used to. This leads me me to the
advice to try the whole procedure on device 'rsd4h' instead of 'rsd4c'.
It might even work then...
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From: dwy@ace.net (David Young)
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Subject: Re: HELP with SCSI device problem
Date: 21 Jul 1997 01:35:26 GMT
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In <EDM69v.DGw@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki wrote:
> The instructions for the device tell us to use the raw or character device
> to access the unit. Now I'm astounded by doing this through partition
> 'c'. Might be this is a Solaris specific trick. The man-page on 'sd'
> tells us that the raw device to access an unlabeled disk is through
> partition 'h', which is the BSD way I'm used to. This leads me me to the
> advice to try the whole procedure on device 'rsd4h' instead of 'rsd4c'.
> It might even work then...
FYI, the c or 2 slice on Solaris systems is the slice which represents the
entire disk. Whether or not this is the same as the h slice on Mach I can't
say, but it's a probably a good idea to try.
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From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith)
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Subject: Re: HELP with SCSI device problem
Date: 21 Jul 1997 04:20:42 GMT
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In <5qpgpt$sgs$2@excalibur.flash.net> daj@nwu.edu wrote:
> I have a SCSI data acquisition device that was manufactured by Analogic,
its model DASM-AD14. Technically it is a 14bit 2Mhz 8 channel acquisition
device that has a 2Mb buffer and a SCSI interface.
>
[snip]
> So to make a long story shorter than what it could be, is the above note
true or is there some patch I can apply to allow me to write a device driver
under Openstep 4.1? Can I get NEXTSTEP3.3 Developer and use it under
OPENSTEP 4.1? Last, I'm still not clear in understanding why I can't just
use /dev/rsd4c as the Analogic manual suggests. The requirement as Analogic
has it in there manual is that their DASM-AD14 communicates through a
character-special file (ie /dev/rsd4c). Clearly the device appears
unwritable (in messages below), however it should be writable. Can anyone
explain why I see this problem?
>
Ok, you have a big task ahead of you. The DriverKit is being overhauled so
yes you will need 3.3 to develop on. You may be able to get the 3.3 libraries
to work on 4.X, others have managed to get the 3.3 AppKit working, but I just
settle for a machine I leave on 3.3 for device driver development. You will
need to write an indirect device driver that uses the SCSI Driver to
communicate with your device. Look at the SCSITape driver example which was
on 3.3 but seems to have disappeared off 4.2. Using the indirect device
driver you will be able to set up a character device that will appear in
/dev. The device naming will only be specific to the Sun (I doubt the naming
would be passed down to the DASM device)
> Oh yeah, the last note is that Analogic no longer supports the device, it
appeared to be to costly to produce so there wasnt enough demand. As a
result I have virttually no help from Analogic.
>
I'd reconsider doing the port then. Device driver is not for the weak of
heart and if you don't have the company supporting you, it could literally be
impossible.
Good luck
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From: "Heath Tucker" <heatht@mindspring.com>
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Subject: PPP and TCP/IP on black hardware
Date: 21 Jul 1997 05:24:39 GMT
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This is a newbie question if there ever was one but I really need to know
so here goes anyway. I just spent an evening searching for info on getting
NeXTs on the net and found a home page for a NeXT-ppp program. I am about
to download the latest stable version. I keep reading that I can use it to
hook a modem up to my NeXT and get a ppp connection through my ISP.
My question is do I need it still if I am not using a modem? I have a
modem hooked up to my PC with windows 95 doing the ppp chores to connect to
my ISP. The cube is connected to the PC via ethernet and TCP/IP. Do I need
to run the ppp software on my cube still or can I get TCP/IP to take the
info from the PC connection to the cube? I read the FAQ which is where I
got pointed to the ppp page but I can't discern from what I found there the
answer to this. Is there another more detailed FAQ for Internet answers or
can anyone tell me how I can get the cube to speak to my ISP without trying
to hook another modem up to its serial port? (daunting because its a 68030
cube)
Thanks,
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Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
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In article <5qrb19$ls$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> rlove@antispam.neosoft.com
(Robert B. Love ) writes:
> While I'm elated that Lighthouse has done this I see they STILL don't
> release OmniDistill. They've had a PDF distiller for over a year and
> won't sell a single license because its a "network" product (I don't
> have a network)
I've had a simple distiller (integrated into the print panel) available
for almost 2 years now. It was in good beta state when the NeXT market
completely collapsed and is in the process of being turned into a
product.
Marcel
From: "Brian Wotring" <prak@usl.edu>
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Subject: Re: Openstep/Win95 Dual Boot
Date: 21 Jul 1997 04:11:34 GMT
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> I am supporting a user who has an IBM Thinkpad. We have Openstep 4.1
> installed on a @700meg partition and Win95 on a @300meg partition.
> Openstep runs fine, Win95 runs fine, BUT, we are not getting a good
> option as far as booting. At the moment if we want to boot to Win95 we
> have to run fdisk and set that as the active partition; ditto for
> Openstep.
>
> Is there a setting that we need to change/turn on so that we can be
> prompted on booting for the correct partition? The fdisk option is
> really a pain.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> david minor.
Get System Commander. I used it with OS 4.1 and Windows95 and it worked
well.
If, however, you want a free Boot Manager, get OS-BS. It works really well
too.
http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de/%7Ewolf/os-bs.html
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From: jon@haveman.org (Jon Haveman)
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Is there any listserver software available for NextStep?
Thanks - Jon
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From: philip@no-spam.cs.wits.ac.za (Philip Machanick)
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Subject: database with WebObjects?
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:54:54 +0200
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I am exploring using WebObjects. Any ideas on which database is good to
interface with it? For a start, I am prototyping, so something free would
be ideal (the final budget allows for software, but I would like to spec
the system after trying out some ideas).
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From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson)
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philip@no-spam.cs.wits.ac.za (Philip Machanick) writes:
> I am exploring using WebObjects. Any ideas on which database is good to
> interface with it? For a start, I am prototyping, so something free
would
> be ideal (the final budget allows for software, but I would like to spec
> the system after trying out some ideas).
mSQL is free academic sites, and pretty cheap commercially. Version 1 has
some severe limitations, but there's a pretty good adaptor for EOF1.1. For
prototyping an app, and getting the feel of EOF its excellent.
mSQL2 looks much better but no one has ported the adaptor yet. If you're
using latter versions of EOF (ie 2) then you may also have problems, but
its definatl;y worth a look.
$an
From: "Stuart Graham" <grahams@oea.columbus.oh.us>
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Can anyone point me in the direction of Samba binaries for the NeXT : OS
Version NextStep 3.2 or 3.3???
thank you,
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From: bentley@crenelle.com (Michael Brian Bentley)
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Subject: Re: Launch of WebObjects Builder on Rhapsody on Mach fails
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Shaw says:
>I've seen it. Apple forgot to put EOF for Mach on the Prelude CD's.
>You can download EOF from somewhere on http://devworld.apple.com.
Is it in a hidden directory? I haven't found it or anything like it.
-m
en't found it or anything like it.
-m
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From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
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Subject: has anyone compiled majordomo for NS/OS?
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I'm just wondering how hard it is.... I realize it is something which is
pretty site-specific, so I'm not asking for anyone to send me their copy, I'm
just wondering if it will compile 'out of the box' or if someone can tell me
how to tweak it...
TjL
ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
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From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez)
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Subject: Re: Launch of WebObjects Builder on Rhapsody on Mach fails
Date: 22 Jul 1997 04:22:07 GMT
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In article <bentley-2107972124190001@alpha.crenelle.com> bentley@crenelle.com (Michael
Brian Bentley) writes:
>Shaw says:
>
>>I've seen it. Apple forgot to put EOF for Mach on the Prelude CD's.
>>You can download EOF from somewhere on http://devworld.apple.com.
>
>Is it in a hidden directory? I haven't found it or anything like it.
>
>-m
Try:
ftp://dev.apple.com/devworld/Technical_Documentation/Rhapsody_Documentation/EOF2.1Machi38
6.tar
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From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
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Subject: Re: has anyone compiled majordomo for NS/OS?
Date: 21 Jul 1997 22:32:49 -0700
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What's to compile? Majordomo was a Perl program the last time I talked
to Brent Chapman about it.
-jcr
luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) writes:
>I'm just wondering how hard it is.... I realize it is something which is
>pretty site-specific, so I'm not asking for anyone to send me their copy, I'm
>just wondering if it will compile 'out of the box' or if someone can tell me
>how to tweak it...
>TjL
>ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so
>please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2
>semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits
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From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen)
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Subject: Re: has anyone compiled majordomo for NS/OS?
Date: 22 Jul 1997 06:32:51 GMT
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In article <5r1gm1$5bc@idiom.com>, John C. Randolph <jcr@idiom.com> wrote:
>What's to compile? Majordomo was a Perl program the last time I talked
>to Brent Chapman about it.
From the Majordomo Makefile:
wrapper: wrapper.c
$(CC) $(WRAPPER_FLAGS) -o wrapper wrapper.c
The wrapper is a C program that is actually called by any mail sent to
a majordomo list. The wrapper in turn calls the perl code. It provides
an additional layer of securing since majordomo has to run suid.
Obviously it has to be compiled locally for your hardware.
Cheers!
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On 07/16/97, Michael Olan wrote:
>Q: Can Concurrence import/export Powerpoint?
a: Yes/No. I asked this already. Seems the PPT spec is unpublished but
Concurrence can read enough to make sense out of it. There's a companion
program to do the conversion. I'd be interested in any hack (could mean the
difference between having MS in my house or not).
>Q: Can OpenWrite *reliably* import/export M$ Word?
a: so far so good.
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From: fukase@cst.nihon-u.ac.jp (FUKASE Mikio)
Subject: Re: Has anyone compiled sendmail 8.8.6?
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In article <5qqk6m$2ei$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) writes:
>
> In <distler-1807971121290001@slip-118-11.ots.utexas.edu> Jacques Distler
> wrote:
> > In article <5qmhtc$46c$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, luomat@peak.org (Timothy
> > J. Luoma) wrote:
> > > I was wondering if anyone had compiled 8.8.6, as I'd really rather not
> > > compile sendmail myself.
> >
> > If it is like any of the previous versions of Sendmail, it will compile
> > right out of the box under NextStep. Don't be afraid . . .
>
> Does that include NetInfo? I'm not sure how sendmail & NetInfo interface
> (boy, combine NetInfo and sendmail, there's no end to the amount of aspects I
> don't know about) but I'm pretty sure that they do, or need to, or should
(?_?)
I think that sendmail8.8.6 can also use the hosts
information in NetInfo (/machines directory) if it was
compiled with NeXTstep's resolver library (gethostbyname,
gethostbyaddr) which is included in /lib/libsys_s.a.
If you would like to use NetInfo's alias database, you
need to add the description in your sendmail configuration
file as follows:
# location of alias file
O AliasFile=/etc/sendmail/aliases,netinfo:/aliases
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-- installation memo (Begin) --
(1) uncompress and extract files from an archive
% gnutar zxvf sendmail.8.8.6.tar.gz
(2) edit makefile
% cd sendmail-8.8.6/src
% vi Makefiles/Makefile.NeXT.3.x
Editing point:
o For configuration file location
If you use the same sendmail configuration file path
(location)(default path[location]) as original
NeXTstep's sendmail, you need to add -DUSE_VENDOR_CF_PATH
option as follows:
ENVDEF= -DNeXT -DUSE_VENDOR_CF_PATH
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If you did not use it, sendmail always looks for
/etc/sendmail.cf (except that your system has the
sendmail.cf property in the NetInfo's /locations/sendmail
directory).
o For new Berkeley DB
If your system has new Berkeley DB and you use it,
you need to add -DNEWDB option as follows:
DBMDEF= -DNDBM -DNEWDB -DNIS -DNETINFO
^^^^^^^
and add the following description:
NEWDBDIR=../../../db.1.85/PORT/next
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^(path)
NEWDBINCDIRS= -I${NEWDBDIR}/include -I${NEWDBDIR}
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
INCDIRS=-I/usr/local/include ${NEWDBINCDIRS}
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NEWDBLIBDIRS= -L${NEWDBDIR}
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LIBDIRS=-L/usr/local/lib ${NEWDBLIBDIRS}
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LIBS= -ldbm -ldb
^^^^^
If your system does no have new Berkeley DB or you
don't use it, you don't need to change.
o For mamual pages
If your system has Berkeley troff macros, you must
change as follows:
NROFF= nroff -h
MANDOC= -mandoc
If your system has groff distribution from MIT, you
don't need to change as follows:
NROFF= groff -Tascii
MANDOC= -mandoc
If your system does not have both Berkeley troff
macros and groff, you must change as follows:
ALL= sendmail # aliases.0 mailq.0 newaliases.0 sendmail.0
^^
install: install-sendmail # install-docs
^^
o For install command name
If you would like to change install command name for
leaving the orginal command, you must change as follows:
install-sendmail: sendmail
${INSTALL} -s -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m ${BINMODE} \
sendmail ${BINDIR}/sendmail.8.8.6.mx
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(3) make sendmail
(% cd sendmail-8.8.6/src)
% ./makesendmail (or % sh makesendmail )
(4) check
example:
your hostname(short) : aaa
your domain name : bbb.ccc.edu
IP address : 192.168.123.1
(% cd sendmail-8.8.6/src)
% cd obj.NeXT*
% sendmail -bt -d0.4 -C/xxx/yyy/zzz.cf
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^V7 Configuration file
location
Version 8.8.6
Compiled with: LOG MATCHGECOS MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NDBM NETINET
NETINFO NETUNIX NEWDB NIS QUEUE SCANF SMTP USERDB XDEBUG
canonical name: aaa.bbb.ccc.edu
a.k.a.: aaa
a.k.a.: aaa.bbb
a.k.a.: aaa.bbb.ccc
UUCP nodename: aaa.bbb.ccc.edu
a.k.a.: aaa
a.k.a.: [192.168.123.1]
a.k.a.: [127.0.0.1]
============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============
(short domain name) $w = aaa
(canonical domain name) $j = aaa.bbb.ccc.edu
(subdomain name) $m = bbb.ccc.edu
(node name) $k = aaa.bbb.ccc.edu
========================================================
WARNING: writable directory /usr/spool/mqueue <-*
ADDRESS TEST MODE (ruleset 3 NOT automatically invoked)
Enter <ruleset> <address>
> ^D
* You need to change directory /usr/spool/mqueue
group write permission as follows:
# chmod g-w /usr/spool/mqueue
# ls -ld /usr/spool/mqueue
drwxr-x--- 2 root 2048 Jul 22 05:27 /usr/spool/mqueue/
^check
(5) install
% cd .. (% cd sendmail-8.8.6/src)
% su
Password:
# ./makesendmail install (or # sh makesendmail install )
(6) check hosts information
example:
your hostname(short) : aaa
your domain name : bbb.ccc.edu
IP address : 192.168.123.1
% hostname
aaa
% cat /etc/resolv.conf (or look up the "/locations/resolver"
in NetInfo if your system is 3.3
or later.)
domain bbb.ccc.edu
nameserver NAMESERVER's IP address
% nidump hosts .
127.0.0.1 localhost
255.255.255.255 broadcasthost
192.168.123.1 aaa.bbb.ccc.edu aaa
(6) stop sendmail process and restart
(6-1) check sendmail process
% ps -auxww | grep sendmail
If the sendmail daemon process only appears, go to
next step.
(6-2) stop the sendmail daemon process
% su
Password:
If you use sendmail 8.x:
# kill -9 `/usr/ucb/head -1 /etc/sendmail/sendmail.pid`
(If you use NeXTstep origiunal's sendmail:
# kill -9 `ps cax | egrep sendmail | awk '{print $1;}')`
)
(6-3) change sendmail
# cd /usr/lib
# mv sendmail sendmail.org
# ln -s ./sendmail.8.8.6.mx ./sendmail
If you use NeXTstep sendmail.cf templates, please
change to the sendmail.cf for the sendmail 8.x.
(6-4) restart
# /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q1h
-- installation memo (End) --
-- making sendmail.cf (Begin) --
I always use CF for making sendmail.cf.
CF is a WIDE Sendmail.cf Generation Package made by Motonori
Nakamura (Kyoto Univ.) and WIDE Project in Japan.
Though all document is written in Japanese, don't worry
yourself about it.
(1) get CF-3.5Wpl7
Host: ftp.kyoto.wide.ad.jp (133.4.8.5, 133.4.19.1)
Location: /mail/CF
FILE: rw-r--r-- 272734 Apr 21 07:02 CF-3.5Wpl7.tar.gz
% ftp ftp.kyoto.wide.ad.jp
Name:ftp
Password: your_mail_address
> cd /mail/CF
> binary
> get CF-3.5Wpl7.tar.gz
...
> bye
%
(2) uncompress and extract files from an archive
% gnutar zxvf CF-3.5Wpl7.tar.gz
(3) preparation
% cd CF-3.5Wpl7
% make cleantools
% make tools
% make samples
% mkdir DESC (<-make work directory)
% cp Samples/Makefile DESC/Makefile
% cp Standards/sendmail-v7.def DESC/sendmail-v7.def
(4) edit description file for fitting your conditon.
(case A)
o Direct deliver with looking up the address
in MX R.R. in DNS
o Sender address:
USER@hostname.domainname
o Recieve address: (recieved by `local' mailer)
USER@hostname.domainname
myhost.def
-- 8< -- 8< -- 8< --
CF_TYPE=R8V7
DEF_ID='@(#)myhost.def 1.0 (your_name@your_group) 22 Jul 1997'
OS_TYPE=nextstep
ALIAS_FILE_PATH='/etc/sendmail/aliases,netinfo:/aliases'
DAEMON_OPTIONS='Port=25'
FORWARD_FILE_PATH='/private/forward/$u:$z/.forward.$w:$z/.forward'
ALWAYS_APPEND_DOMAIN=yes
COPY_ERRORS_TO='postmaster'
PRIVACY_FLAGS='authwarnings,needmailhelo'
-- 8< -- 8< -- 8< --
(case B)
o Direct deliver with looking up the address
in MX R.R. in DNS
o Sender address:
USER@domainname (<-cut short hostname)
o Recieve address: (recieved by `local' mailer)
USER@hostname.domainname
USER@domainname
myhost.def
-- 8< -- 8< -- 8< --
CF_TYPE=R8V7
DEF_ID='@(#)myhost.def 1.0 (your_name@your_group) 22 Jul
1997'
OS_TYPE=nextstep
ALIAS_FILE_PATH='/etc/sendmail/aliases,netinfo:/aliases'
DAEMON_OPTIONS='Port=25'
FORWARD_FILE_PATH='/private/forward/$u:$z/.forward.$w:$z/.forward'
ALWAYS_APPEND_DOMAIN=yes
COPY_ERRORS_TO='postmaster'
PRIVACY_FLAGS='authwarnings,needmailhelo'
FROM_ADDRESS='$m'
ACCEPT_ADDRS='$m'
RECIPIENT_GENERIC=yes
-- 8< -- 8< -- 8< --
If you would like to also recieved `USER@bbb.edu'
by `local' mailer on your system, please add its
information in ACCEPT_ADDRS field as follows:
ACCEPT_ADDRS='$m bbb.edu'
^^^^^^^
(5) make cf
% make myhost.cf
(6) check
ex
% hostname
hostname <-your short hostname (one word)
% /usr/etc/ping hostname 61 1
^^^^^^^your hostname
PING hostname.my.domain.name: 61 data bytes
69 bytes from your_host's_ip_address: icmp_seq=0. time=5. ms
----hostname.my.domain.name PING Statistics----
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^your host's canonical name*
1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 5/5/5
* Its name is correspond to your host's network
interface's IP address.
% /usr/lib/sendmail -bt -d0.4 -C./myhost.cf
^^^^^^^^sendmail.8.8.x
Version 8.8.6
Compiled with: LOG MATCHGECOS MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NDBM NETINET
NETINFO NETUNIX NEWDB NIS QUEUE SCANF SMTP USERDB XDEBUG
canonical name: hostname.my.domain.name
a.k.a.: hostname
a.k.a.: hostname.my
a.k.a.: hostname.my.domain
UUCP nodename: hostname.my.domain.name
a.k.a.: hostname
a.k.a.: [your host's ip address]
a.k.a.: [127.0.0.1]
============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============
(short domain name) $w = hostname
(canonical domain name) $j = hostname.my.domain.name
(subdomain name) $m = my.domain.name
(node name) $k = hostname.my.domain.name
========================================================
ADDRESS TEST MODE (ruleset 3 NOT automatically invoked)
Enter <ruleset> <address>
> 3,0 you
...
rewrite: ruleset 0 returns: $# local $: you
> 3,0 you@my.domain.name
...
rewrite: ruleset 0 returns: $# smtp $@ xxx . yyy . $: you < @ xxx . yyy >
(case A)
(rewrite: ruleset 0 returns: $# local $: you )<-(case B)
> 3,0 you@xxx.yyy
...
rewrite: ruleset 0 returns: $# smtp $@ xxx . yyy . $: you < @ xxx . yyy >
> 3,1,11,4 you <--check the rewriting rule for sender
...
rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: you @ hostname . my . domain . name
(case A)
(rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: you @ my . domain . name) <-(case B)
>^D
%
-- making senmdail.cf (End) --
I hope this information proves useful.
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FUKASE, Mikio
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>>Q: Can OpenWrite *reliably* import/export M$ Word?
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I have had some problems. This requires use of ConverterInstaller, no? I get
some weird message about "unable to convert 8-bit version ....." Word Perfect
and some other conversions go smoothly. Any insights?
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>Bernie Sanders: Does this concern you, the fact that we today have,
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>In testimony before
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>March 5, 1997.
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: has anyone compiled majordomo for NS/OS?
Date: 22 Jul 1997 18:34:05 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
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On 07/21/97, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:
>
>I'm just wondering how hard it is.... I realize it is something which
is
>pretty site-specific, so I'm not asking for anyone to send me their
copy, I'm
>just wondering if it will compile 'out of the box' or if someone can
tell me
>how to tweak it...
>
A much better alternative to majordomo is SmartList that comes
with Procmail. Its easy to setup, administer and largely just runs
without interaction from the admin.
--
Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com>
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: opengraph_gamma@vvi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenGraph/Prelude To Rhapsody Gamma Number 4 CD Ships
Date: 22 Jul 1997 20:34:10 GMT
Organization: VVI Data Control Specialists
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Originator: gsupport@
OpenGraph/Prelude To Rhapsody Gamma Number 4 CD Ships
VVI Data Control Specialists (VVI-DCS)
311 Adams Ave.; State College, PA 16803 USA
888-DCS-OPEN ; 814-234-9613
info@vvi.com
http://www.vvi.com
State College, PA USA, 11 July 1997: Showing its continued commitment to the
OpenStep/Rhapsody marketplace, VVI-DCS ships fourth gamma version of OpenGraph
to major OpenStep customers worldwide, including OpenStep customers in
financial service, manufacturing, pharmaceutical and biotech industries with
combined assets of billions of dollars.
Join those premier OpenStep/Rhapsody customers in the OpenGraph Gamma Program
and receive:
1. Proven OpenGraph technology used now by the largest OpenStep customers to
monitor billions of dollars worth of products.
2. No-fee technical support via e-mail, no-fee use of the OpenGraph
gamma version during the gamma program, and no entrance fee (its free).
3. Free commercial copies of the GraphBuilder** application for ALL computers
in participant's company, and one copy of OpenGraph-Developer** and
OpenGraph-User*** sent to participants at the end of the gamma program.
To take advantage of this offer contact VVI-DCS at opengraph_gamma@vvi.com.
See http://www.vvi.com for additional information.
_________________________________
PREMIER PRESS RELEASE:
State College, PA, 20 January 1997: VVI-DCS announced an expansion of its
OpenGraph on OpenStep/Rhapsody gamma program. If your business is interested
in gamma testing OpenGraph please contact VVI-DCS at opengraph_gamma@vvi.com.
"We've been working on the OpenGraph/OpenStep port for about a year now." said
John Brilhart, Chief Technical Officer at VVI-DCS. "Our customers are reporting
complex data sets from global real-time data feeds up to 500 events per second.
That type of data reporting requires reliable and optimized report software.
The gamma program is an important final part of our total quality control of
the OpenGraph port." John adds, "The improvements and new features accompanying
that port ensures our commanding lead in the high-end data reporting markets.
With OpenStep and OpenGraph we provide compelling and unique solutions which
have market advantages for our customers. For that reason we've always been
fully committed to OpenStep on all platforms and have been working with NeXT
and Sun for quite a while. We expect to apply the same level of commitment to
Rhapsody (the Apple version of OpenStep) when it becomes available."
About VVI-DCS: VVI-DCS, founded in 1989, builds custom OpenStep based data
report and acquisition systems for the financial service, manufacturing,
pharmaceutical and biotech industries and is the leading supplier of high-end
data report software for the OpenStep marketplace.
About OpenGraph: OpenGraph is a framework of Objective-C and C++ objects for
reporting data in graph and textual formats and consists of a graph building
application and pre-built objects. OpenGraph accepts real-time feeds from any
source and serves as a graphing front-end for real-time financial analysis,
transaction, production and inventory analysis, database systems, and
instrumentation. OpenGraph is fully object-oriented and is well suited to
systems which require reliability, exacting specifications and performance.
_________________________________
A non-disclosure agreement is required for participation in the gamma program.
** no-license-fee commercial use license.
***no-license-fee and royalty-free commercial use license.
(C) Copyright 1997 VVimaging, Inc. (VVI-DCS); All rights reserved. OpenGraph,
GraphBuilder, VVI Data Control Specialists, VVI-DCS, and VVimaging are
trademarks of VVimaging, Inc. (VVI-DCS). NeXT, NEXTSTEP and OpenStep are
trademarks of NeXT Software, Inc. All other trademarks and service marks belong
to their respective owners.
From: stuartf@dimensional.com (stu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [WTB]where? Nextstep for Intel 3.3 <
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 22:00:12 GMT
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Anyone know where I can find this?
Thanks
Stuart
stuartf@dimensional.com
From: "Dana A. Shadrick" <dana@sgsnet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mail.app & Rhapsody?
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:39:14 -0500
Organization: SGS Net Inc.
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Is Mail.app going to be moved over to Rhapsody? I've been using it for
years, but it is definitely starting to show its age. It doesn't handle
HTML MIME attachments and attached text files come across as inline text
instead of as attachments.
I'm not sure if these are problems introduced by Netscape's mail tool or
due to the fact that Mail.app doesn't implement the current MIME
standard, but it is forcing me to consider moving to NT.
I've got close to 100meg in archived email in various Next formats like
Next Mail and Next Mime. Is there any utility that will convert Next
Mail mailboxes to Netscape Folders?
Thanks,
Dana
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: EOF 2.1 Mach/Intel d/l
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 19:46:08 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University - Instructional Technology Development
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In case you missed it, EOF 2.1 Mach/Intel is available for d/l...
The following from
http://devworld.apple.com/ngs/lpp/adrpub/docs/dev/prelude/getting_started.html
If you are using OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel - the product that will
become Rhapsody for Intel - you'll
need to get the Enterprise Objects framework for Intel. The decision to
include WebObjects in the Prelude
to Rhapsody bundle overlooked this dependency. Enterprise Objects is not
included in the bundle. You
can get the Enterprise Objects framework for Intel from Apple's devworld
site. The archive is 18.2 MB.
ftp://dev.apple.com/devworld/Technical_Documentation/Rhapsody_Documentation/EOF2.1Machi386.tar
Note, please don't confuse OPENSTEP Enterprise with Enterprise Objects.
OPENSTEP Enterprise is
the product that will become Yellow Box for Windows. Enterprise Objects
is Apple's framework for
advanced database connectivity.
-Eric
"Part of 'generation NeXT'" ;)
http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie
xes/name.mbox/mbox file is just a
standard unix mail box. I don't know what if anything you need to do to
convert this to something usable by netscape.
--
John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd
=========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============
Thought for the day: According to the supreme court, proof of innocence
isn't enough to avoid execution if you've exhausted your appeals.
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Strange problem with Edit.app
Date: 23 Jul 1997 01:08:53 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
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Our printer went out at the office so I transferred some files home
to print them. They are formatted 51 lines/page in landscape. I
wrote a little script to remove a few lines from each page and then I
tried to use Edit.app to change the font size and to print. I
discovered I could re-load the same file and set the same font size
and each time it would preview slightly differently. The page header
might be in the same place on each page or it might scroll up or down
by one or more lines each page. Unless I got lucky, I could not
print the files exactly the way I wanted to print them.
-----
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me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Christian Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Error messages with some apps
Date: 23 Jul 1997 00:37:00 GMT
Organization: Bitstream Underground
Message-ID: <5r3jnc$g8t$1@maryj.bitstream.net>
I am running NS 3.3 on a Turbo cube, and while exploring a bunch of
old NS-moto demos I ran across an old TIFFany demo (1.1!) and couldn't
resist taking it out for a spin. The pkg file installed fine, and when
I double-click on the icon it miniaturizes as usual. However, it then
immediately disappears and the following pops up on the console:
Jul 22 19:07:58 Workspace: Cannot exec
/Users/cejensen/Apps/TIFFany.app/TIFFany : Bad executable (or shared
library)
I have experienced similar sudden app-deaths and seen similar console
messages when trying some other apps and demos, particularly older
ones. What's up with this? Are these apps not compatible with NS 3.3?
This is what I suspect, and if I'm right, what subtle slight-of-hand
hackery must I do to fool these apps into thinking they are running
under NS 2.x, or whatever else they are expecting to run under?
Thanks in advance for all who reply. --Chris
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cejensen@bitstream.net
MIME, NeXTMail OK
From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app & Rhapsody?
Date: 23 Jul 1997 02:00:24 GMT
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In <33D51A72.DBA47B07@sgsnet.com> "Dana A. Shadrick" wrote:
> Is Mail.app going to be moved over to Rhapsody? I've been using it for
> years, but it is definitely starting to show its age. It doesn't
handle
I've seen several of the Rhapsody preview pages have something called
MailViewer. This troubles me because it makes me think you can read
mail but not write a response. As if its some kind of demo app and
not a full service mail tool.
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From: Michael Sitarzewski <michael@meetmeonline.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: database with WebObjects?
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:42:46 -0700
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Ian Stephenson wrote:
> In article <philip-2107971654540001@macadamia.cs.wits.ac.za>
> philip@no-spam.cs.wits.ac.za (Philip Machanick) writes:
> > I am exploring using WebObjects. Any ideas on which database is good
> to
> > interface with it? For a start, I am prototyping, so something free
> would
> > be ideal (the final budget allows for software, but I would like to
> spec
> > the system after trying out some ideas).
>
> mSQL is free academic sites, and pretty cheap commercially. Version 1
> has
> some severe limitations, but there's a pretty good adaptor for EOF1.1.
> For
> prototyping an app, and getting the feel of EOF its excellent.
>
> mSQL2 looks much better but no one has ported the adaptor yet. If
> you're
> using latter versions of EOF (ie 2) then you may also have problems,
> but
> its definatl;y worth a look.
So whos butt do we jump to make that happen? I'm also interested in mSQL
2.0 and have just purchased (yes, purchased) the entire suite of
OpenStep/WebObjects/EOF etc...
Michael.
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From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: database with WebObjects?
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:22:10 GMT
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Hi,
If you are looking for a low cost, EOF 2.x compatible SQL database, try
OpenBase from OpenBase International (www.openbase.com).
The product works, runs under Mach, NT and Rhapsody, is pretty fast for
small to medium size databases and has a subset of the ANSI sql command
set.
We have used it for smaller customers and its proved to be robust.
---
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From: prak@usl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help with OpenStep 4.2 installation for Intel
Date: 21 Jul 1997 03:03:51 GMT
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-> I have an IDE harddisk and an IDE CD-ROM. I dont think that these are the
> problems though. Remember everything gets installed, its just booting up
> that sucks.
Get SCSI.
--
Brian Wotring
mail: prak@usl.edu
web: http://www.ucs.usl.edu/~bjw5371/flux.html
From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app & Rhapsody?
Date: 23 Jul 1997 08:46:38 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
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rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) wrote:
> I've seen several of the Rhapsody preview pages have something called
> MailViewer. This troubles me because it makes me think you can read
> mail but not write a response. As if its some kind of demo app and
> not a full service mail tool.
This MailViewer looks exactly like the MailViewer.app that was included in
the legendary 4.0alpha release. Despite its name, which was probably meant to
parallel FileViewer.app (that also didn't make it into the final release), it
is a full Mail.app replacement. I looks a bit different (I think more modern)
but does the same thing.
erik
-- Erik Dörnenburg
-- OBJECT FACTORY
-- Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH
-- http://www.object-factory.com
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From: mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: problem with Alexandria.app--any advice?
Date: 23 Jul 1997 14:06:04 GMT
Organization: DIGEX, Inc.
Message-ID: <5r534c$3bi$2@news2.digex.net>
I'm using Alexandria.app to read/post news. When I don't interact
with the server for longer than about 5 minutes (like when I'm typing
a long response), it loses the connection and dumps me off (losing
the response). Is this a problem with Alexandria, or with my server?
I've never had a problem with any other newsreader I've tried.
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things, with a disturbance in the moral imagination unlike any the
world has ever known-there you have me in a nutshell: and one more thing,
kill me or take me as I am, because I will not change." -de Sade
From: philip@cs.wits.ac.za (Philip Machanick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: database with WebObjects?
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 17:18:00 +0200
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Wits
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References: <philip-2107971654540001@macadamia.cs.wits.ac.za> <EDoHC8.A1x@cam-ani.co.uk>
In article <EDoHC8.A1x@cam-ani.co.uk>, ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson)
wrote:
> mSQL is free academic sites, and pretty cheap commercially. Version 1 has
> some severe limitations, but there's a pretty good adaptor for EOF1.1. For
> prototyping an app, and getting the feel of EOF its excellent.
>
> mSQL2 looks much better but no one has ported the adaptor yet. If you're
> using latter versions of EOF (ie 2) then you may also have problems, but
> its definatl;y worth a look.
Thanks, in case anyone else is interested, I found a FAQ at
<ftp://Bond.edu.au/pub/Minerva/msql/faq.html>.
--
Philip Machanick Department of Computer Science
University of the Witwatersrand, 2050 Wits, South Africa
phone 27(11)716-3309 fax 27(11)339-7965
http://www.cs.wits.ac.za/~philip/ philip@cs.wits.ac.za
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From: Andrew Engelmann <engelman@colorado.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Q: Anybody know of interrupt info for OPENSTEP on NT?
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:25:48 -0600
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Can anyone point me in a direction where I might find some information
on accessing a simple clock interrupt for OPENSTEP 4.2 running on top of
Windows NT?
I might be able to simply pole a system clock if I had access to that as
well.
Thanks.
-Drew
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From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app & Rhapsody?
Date: 23 Jul 1997 10:52:46 -0700
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In article <5r3ojo$4n1$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> rlove@antispam.neosoft.com
(Robert B. Love ) writes:
> I've seen several of the Rhapsody preview pages have something called
> MailViewer. This troubles me because it makes me think you can read
> mail but not write a response. As if its some kind of demo app and
> not a full service mail tool.
MailViewer.app supports sending mail via SMTP connections or sendmail, and
receiving mail via POP3 or from a spool file. It's a full mail tool in the
tradition of Mail.
It's not part of any currently shipping product, though. :-)
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Mike Paquette (mpaque AT wco.com ; Yank that .spa-am and nospam to reply.)
Well, if there *were* anything to say, it would be with the understanding
that the PR/Marketing people want to make the announcements on products,
so anything I have to say wouldn't actually exist until after then, so
what I might have to say now doesn't exist, and what I may say in future
can't be said, so theoretically what exists, doesn't, for the immediate future.
(With apologies to Joe Straczynski)
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Error messages with some apps
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 16:22:25 -0400
Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep
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To: Christian Jensen <cejensen@bitstream.net>
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On 23 Jul 1997, Christian Jensen wrote:
> I am running NS 3.3 on a Turbo cube, and while exploring a bunch of
> old NS-moto demos I ran across an old TIFFany demo (1.1!) and couldn't
> resist taking it out for a spin. The pkg file installed fine, and when
> I double-click on the icon it miniaturizes as usual. However, it then
> immediately disappears and the following pops up on the console:
>
> Jul 22 19:07:58 Workspace: Cannot exec
> /Users/cejensen/Apps/TIFFany.app/TIFFany : Bad executable (or shared
> library)
Assuming that this is not a file which requires the FoundationUserPatch I
would say yes this is an app that needs the 2.x shlibs. The only way to
fool it is to edit the binary (actually make a copy of the original and
then edit the binary) taking care to edit just what is needed,
specifically change /usr/shlib to something like /2.1/shlib where '2.1'
replaced 'usr' (note that it is the exact same number of characters)
Then put the 2.x shlibs in the folder /2.1/shlib/ on your system.
I used to have them, but no longer do (lost to a disk crash and they were
idiotically not backed up, so if anyone wants to share theirs, please let
me know).
TjL
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Subject: [REQ] need EngageDesktop
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 18:42:40 GMT
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I need EngageDesktop (not demo version)
Please HELP.
Camp Humphreys, Korea
CPL HONG, J. S.
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From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff)
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Subject: Re: Samba Binaries for NextStep 3.2 / 3.3
Date: 23 Jul 1997 22:20:20 GMT
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Stuart Graham (grahams@oea.columbus.oh.us) wrote:
: Can anyone point me in the direction of Samba binaries for the NeXT : OS
: Version NextStep 3.2 or 3.3???
: thank you,
: Stuart Graham
Hi,
I s'pose this should be a FAQ but I haven't seen it answered anywhere.
It is possible to build the Samba sources on NS3.3. There are a few
includes that need to be change... a few #defines from a file that
has moved around in the /NextDeveloper/Headers hierarchy.
Also one method has to be commented out or reconciled (I couldn't find
an equivalent method under NS). It's pretty easy though really.
I hacked a recent copy of Samba recently (two months ago) and did get
it running on NS3.3 in this manner. It is stable and my peecee and
nextstation can talk to each other happily now.
Thomas
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From: scott_ribe@die.die.die.spam (Scott Ribe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: problem installing EOF from DevWorld
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 19:41:38 -0500
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I have the mailed out Prelude to Rhapsody CD, not the one given out at
WWDC, IOW I don't have the WebObjects CD.
Anyway, I have downloaded the EOF file off DevWorld. I have successfully
installed the EO2User package and the Informix and Oracle adaptor packages.
But I cannot get the EO2Developer package to install.
The check phase runs through without errors, the last few lines of the log read:
Checking /NextLibrary/Receipts/EO2Developer.pkg ... OK.
...done.
Installing EO2Developer.pkg into / ...
stdin: not in compressed format
*** There were errors while installing EO2Developer.pkg.
... errors.
Any ideas as to what I should try?
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Scott Ribe
Scott_Ribe@KillerBytes.com
http://www.scott.net/~sribe
USA (205) 591-9204
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Subject: NUDE !!!!!!
Date: 23 Jul 1997 22:42:33 GMT
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You just have to see this!
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From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff)
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Subject: Samba for NS3.3 posted
Date: 23 Jul 1997 23:29:12 GMT
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Hi,
I'm posting a hacked version of samba quad-fat for NS3.3.
Below are the details and the README.HACKED file I added to
the distribution available at the specified site.
Thomas Poff
thomas@cs.sonoma.edu
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Instructions for compiling Samba under NS3.3:
(or How I hacked Samba for NS3.3 by Thomas Poff 7/97)
Please use this distribution at your own risk. Calls to waitpid() have
been disabled due to NS3.3 not knowing about the function call. However,
previous versions of Samba that I have built with this hack have been
working for the last three months for me without a hitch.
The distribution is temporarily available at:
http://www.cs.sonoma.edu/~thomas
(look at the bottom of the page for the link)
and if there's agreement that it's reliable will eventually be posted to
the peak archives, etc.
I added my smb.conf file (smb.conf.thomas) to this distribution since hey...
this file works on my system. You'll probably want to stick with the
original since mine defines a NeXT Laserprinter for export for use with
Win-doze machines.
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0. Change directory to ./samba-1.9.16p11/source
1. Uncomment the NEXT3_0 flags in Makefile so that they look like this:
Note that you can change the -arch flag for your own personal platform
(m68k, sparc, etc)
# This is for NEXTSTEP Release 3.0 and greater (including OPENSTEP for Mach).
# contributed by brad@cac.washington.edu (Brad Greer)
# additional configuration by pmarcos@next.com (Paul Marcos)
# For compiling n-way fat executables, you should append the appropriat -arch
# flags to the FLAGSM variable. Valid flags are:
# -arch m68k
# -arch i386
# -arch hppa
# -arch sparc
# To compile 4-way fat, you would append
# -arch m68k -arch i386 -arch hppa -arch sparc
FLAGSM = -DNEXT3_0 -arch m68k
LIBSM =
2. Add this somewhere in includes.h
#ifdef NEXT3_0
#define O_ACCMODE 003 /* mask for file access modes */
#define O_NONBLOCK 00004 /* non-blocking open */
#define O_NOCTTY 00020 /* do not acquire a */
#endif
3. Make a function in server.c called waitpid()
Add these three lines to system.c near the top of the file:
int waitpid() // this is a hack... NS3.3 should have a function called waitpid().
{ return 0; // However it doesn't. Use this hack at your own risk.
} // if you find a better solution please e-mail thomas@cs.sonoma.edu
Change the method call to waitpid() in chgpassd.c to sys_waitpid().
Notes:
Warnings you will probably see during compile are:
util.c: In function `fcntl_lock':
util.c:3554: warning: passing arg 3 of `fcntl' makes integer from pointer without a cast
system.c: In function `sys_utime':
system.c:198: warning: passing arg 2 of `utime' from incompatible pointer type
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I didn't let them bother me. Not _too_ much anyway. After all this ain't JaVa.
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From: MaRK_BeSSeY@Apple.Com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Anybody know of interrupt info for OPENSTEP on NT?
Date: 23 Jul 1997 23:42:14 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
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References: <33D63E9C.1E97@colorado.edu>
Andrew Engelmann <engelman@colorado.edu> writes
> Can anyone point me in a direction where I might find some information
> on accessing a simple clock interrupt for OPENSTEP 4.2 running on top of
> Windows NT?
If you aren't looking for super-high precision or accuracy, the NSTimer
class provides a portable way to get periodic messages...Otherwise, I'm
pretty sure that there's Win32 API to register a callback function to be
called periodically.
--
Mark Bessey
Apple Computer, Inc.
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From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Parasheet macro's
Date: 24 Jul 1997 03:09:12 GMT
Organization: Personal
Message-ID: <5r6h0o$ceu@rumah.pc.my>
Does anyone have a couple of simple Parasheet macro's that I could look at?
The only things I can get to work is a button panel or pause panel, and then
I don't know how to get the button return value.
TIA,
Mike
From: "Alejandro Bautista Arreola" <alexb@podernet.com.mx>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: QUESTION: MY BROWSER (INTERNET EXPLORER) CAN´T OPEN ANYTHING, SO WHAT CAN I DO????
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:21:55 -0500
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Message-ID: <01bc978c$c9978fa0$260524c8@puebla.podernet.com.mx>
WELL THE PROBLEM IS, I CAN`T OPEN ANYTHING WHIT MY BROWSER AND SO WHAT CAN
I DO `CAUSE IT CAN`T OPEN MY PROXY.
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <nospam@all.pls>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_QUESTION=3A_MY_BROWSER_=28INTERNET_EXPLORE?=
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=29_CAN=B4T_OPEN_ANYTHING=2C_SO_WHAT_CAN_I?=
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 04:20:42 -0700
Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970724041941.25261F-100000@kira>
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And the final problem is that his email address is invalid
Ahhh the average computer user.......
TjL
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <nospam@all.pls>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_QUESTION=3A_MY_BROWSER_=28INTERNET_EXPLORE?=
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=29_CAN=B4T_OPEN_ANYTHING=2C_SO_WHAT_CAN_I?=
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 04:17:28 -0700
Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep
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To: Alejandro Bautista Arreola <alexb@podernet.com.mx>
In-Reply-To: <01bc978c$c9978fa0$260524c8@puebla.podernet.com.mx>
On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Alejandro Bautista Arreola wrote:
> WELL THE PROBLEM IS, I CAN`T OPEN ANYTHING WHIT MY BROWSER AND SO WHAT CAN
> I DO `CAUSE IT CAN`T OPEN MY PROXY.
That's only one problem....
Another problem is using a crappy OS.... another problem is using all
caps.... another problem is misspelling 'with'.... and finally the last
problem is posting to comp.sys.NEXT.software about MicroSlop software.
For more information on NeXT, see http://www.next.com
TjL
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From: jon@haveman.org (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Setting default application....how to
Date: 24 Jul 1997 16:33:45 GMT
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No, my question isn't QUITE as dumb as the subject would suggest. I know how
to set the default application for a file type provided that the Inspector
panel lists the one that I want.
What I don't know how to do is set the default application if the Inspector
panel DOES NOT list the one that I want.
Basically, I've just been given a bunch of .tz files that it turns out are
tar.gz files. (Stupid DOS/WINDOZE.) I've set Opener.app to deal with them,
but I'd like to be able to double click 'em.
Thanks much - Jon
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From: sjohnson @- myriad.net@ (Stephen Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: adding Backspace modules?
Date: 24 Jul 1997 18:02:22 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas
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I've unsuccessfully tried to add modules to Backspace. I downloaded
the latest binary of the app and some of the add-in modules. I tried
putting them in both the LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews folder and
BackSpace.app folder as both a .BackO file and as a .BackModule folder
as described in the ReadMes.
And every way I get the error 'unable to dynamically load module'.
Can anyone tell me what I need to do? Surely not recompile
everything?!! I don't have developer on here.
Stephen
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From: scott_ribe@die.die.die.spam (Scott Ribe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: problem installing EOF from DevWorld
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 16:32:14 -0500
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scott_ribe@die.die.die.spam (Scott Ribe) wrote:
>Anyway, I have downloaded the EOF file off DevWorld. I have successfully
>installed the EO2User package and the Informix and Oracle adaptor packages.
>But I cannot get the EO2Developer package to install.
Ignore this, I guess it was just file corruption because simply downloading
it again fixed the problem.
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 14:37:31 -0600
From: spagiola@worldbank.org
Subject: Help: need IconDock instructions
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I'm looking for instructions on how to use IconDock, an app that provides
the same functionality as NeXTSTEP's dock, under Windows NT. I remember
reading very good things about it.
I have the app itself. However, the readme file that comes with the app
comes with no instructions for use, and only points to a web page and an
e-mail address for instructions, neither of which appears to exist any
more.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Stefano Pagiola
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From: Lagartia Nick@nowhere.com (Lagartia Nick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Simple question about purchasing Openstep/Nextstep
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 22:26:39 GMT
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Basically, where can I buy it, and what is the price for an intel
version?
No development packages necessary either.
Thanks
Stuart
stuartf@dimensional.com
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman -- remove .dev.null to reply)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app & Rhapsody?
Date: 24 Jul 1997 17:42:35 GMT
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"Dana A. Shadrick" <dana@sgsnet.com> wrote:
> Is Mail.app going to be moved over to Rhapsody? I've been using it for
> years, but it is definitely starting to show its age. It doesn't handle
> HTML MIME attachments and attached text files come across as inline text
> instead of as attachments.
Well, in my experience NeXT's Mail.app does follow the Mime standard
to the letter in this respect: if the attachment has been marked
with "Content-disposition: inline" it faithfully inlines the
attachment. Unfortunately, it seems that some widely-used mailers
(Eudora for example) by default mark attachments as "inline" instead
of "attachment" as they should. (I won't go into M$-Tnef:
braindamage here... Mime-alternatives are in the spec for a reason,
busters!)
HTML support hes been announced for Rhapsody's NSText object, so
inlined HTML should be no problem in the future.
> I'm not sure if these are problems introduced by Netscape's mail tool or
> due to the fact that Mail.app doesn't implement the current MIME
> standard, but it is forcing me to consider moving to NT.
Bummer. I recently had the pleasure of being forced to use Netscape
Mail (version 3.0 I think). You can send only a single attachment???
No drag&drop of attachments??? No inline images???
Just those piddly little things you take for granted on NEXTSTEP :-)
> I've got close to 100meg in archived email in various Next formats like
> Next Mail and Next Mime. Is there any utility that will convert Next
> Mail mailboxes to Netscape Folders?
Not that I know of. Mime messages should be no problem, at least
if Netscape implements the current Mime standard (Sorry, couldn't
resist }->)
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From: vincent@hnw.sente.ch (Vincent Kohler)
Message-ID: <33d86ef1.0@epflnews.epfl.ch>
Date: 25 Jul 97 09:16:33 GMT
Folks,
We use Quantrix 2.0 for a while and it works really good ! It's
powerful, but bites a lot of memory ;-|
We just downloaded Quantrix 2.3 and have a crash as soon as we try to
display a chart!
Anybody had the same problem ?
Perhaps the app was not complete although the package was successfully
installed...
Vincent
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From: Ali Asad Lotia <lotia@toastman.us.itd.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: problem installing NS3.3 on color turbo
Date: 25 Jul 1997 09:29:34 GMT
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hello all,
i am using a next color turbo station and have been having the hardest
time installing from scratch a copy of nextstep 3.3 on a quantum fireball
3.2 gig hd. when the drive is installed in the machine, it reports a scsi
error when attempting to boot from drive. i am unable to escape to the
monitor. the scsi id on the quantum is set to 1, the cdrom is at 2. if you
have any suggestions for me at all, i would really appreciate an email at
lotia@umich.edu thanks a lot.
ali asad lotia
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From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: adding Backspace modules?
Date: 25 Jul 1997 07:13:58 GMT
Organization: GMD-FOKUS
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Stephen Johnson writes
> I've unsuccessfully tried to add modules to Backspace. I downloaded
> the latest binary of the app and some of the add-in modules. I tried
> putting them in both the LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews folder and
> BackSpace.app folder as both a .BackO file and as a .BackModule folder
> as described in the ReadMes.
> And every way I get the error 'unable to dynamically load module'.
>
> Can anyone tell me what I need to do? Surely not recompile
> everything?!! I don't have developer on here.
Sorry to say, but I had to do exactly this to get some modules working on my
NS/HP. Try something like:
>> file WordsView.BackModule/WordsView.BackO
You should get a list of supported architectures:
WordsView.BackModule/WordsView.BackO: fat file with 4 architecture(s)
WordsView.BackModule/WordsView.BackO (for architecture m68k): Mach-O
relocatable
WordsView.BackModule/WordsView.BackO (for architecture i386): Mach-O
relocatable
WordsView.BackModule/WordsView.BackO (for architecture hppa): Mach-O
relocatable
WordsView.BackModule/WordsView.BackO (for architecture sparc): Mach-O
relocatable
Because there seems to be no guideline how to write the modules makefiles in a
similar manner I had to manually recompile every module for my architectures. I
may send some of them to you. Any preferences?
Robert
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From: smolny@pankow.mpiib-berlin.mpg.de (Bertram Smolny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Q:SAMBA and faxing
Date: 25 Jul 1997 10:13:49 GMT
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From: awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Andy Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Date: 25 Jul 1997 10:04:16 -0500
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In article <33d86ef1.0@epflnews.epfl.ch>,
Vincent Kohler <vincent@hnw.sente.ch> wrote:
>We just downloaded Quantrix 2.3 and have a crash as soon as we try to
>display a chart!
>Anybody had the same problem ?
>Perhaps the app was not complete although the package was successfully
>installed...
open Quantrix.app/English.lproj/Charts and remove 3Dfolder
check on lighthouse's FAQ server.. it explains it.
andy
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From: dmwood@tater.Mines.EDU (David M. Wood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: g77 under OS4.2
Date: 25 Jul 1997 23:02:06 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
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Howdy all.
Has anyone managed to compile g77 (looks like version 0.5.20 is
the latest) under OpenStep 4.2 (which uses gcc 2.7.2, I think)?
I had bad problems under OS 4.0 associated with the sequence in
which libraries were searched, and (if I remember right) the
assumption new in OS 4.0 that all libraries are dynamic (?).
Mark Bessey made some excellent suggestions about building static
executables, but I never could fix my problem, and just ftp executables
from a NeXTStep 3.3 Intel machine to the target machine).
[The dreaded message
ld: warning archive library:
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386-next-nextstep3/2.7.2/libgcc.a appears
after reference to dynamic shared library and will be searched as
a dynamic shared library
was an indicator of the problem.]
Many thanks for any information about g77 and OS 4.2.
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From: Robert Mueller <mueller@lindenau.informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Converter for WriteNow on Intel/NextStep 3.3. or Sun OpenStep
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:25:30 +0100
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Hi,
I have a very old WriteNow-file from the NextStep/Motorola days, and need
to
convert it to rtf or ps. Does anyone can tell me, whether
and where I can get
a) a tool or WriteNow itself for NS 3.3. on Intel to convert the
wn-file
to rtf, ps or WfW or whatever format that is readable by standard text
systems.
b) the same for running on Sun OpenStep 4.0?
Any help would be great.
Thank you very much in advance.
Robert
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From: andydunn@op.net (Andy Dunn)
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Subject: Re: Converter for WriteNow on Intel/NextStep 3.3. or Sun OpenStep
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Robert Mueller wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a very old WriteNow-file from the NextStep/Motorola days, and need
> to
> convert it to rtf or ps. Does anyone can tell me, whether
> and where I can get
>
> a) a tool or WriteNow itself for NS 3.3. on Intel to convert the
> wn-file
> to rtf, ps or WfW or whatever format that is readable by standard text
> systems.
>
> b) the same for running on Sun OpenStep 4.0?
>
> Any help would be great.
> Thank you very much in advance.
> Robert
>
> Dipl. Math. Robert Mueller Tel.: (+49) 341 97 32227
> Institut fuer Informatik Fax.: (+49) 341 97 32209 (secretary)
> Universitaet Leipzig, Augustusplatz 10/11, 04109 Leipzig , Germany
> email: mueller@informatik.uni-leipzig.de
> Web: http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~mueller/
>
>
>
I seem to recall that there was a WriteNow -> rtf translator out there at one
time. You might check the archives.
Another option is to get a copy of ClarisWorks for a Macintosh. It claims it
can read NeXT-produced WriteNow files, but I haven't tried it.
Good luck,
_andy
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lighthouse publishes license strings
Date: 26 Jul 1997 01:45:07 GMT
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Just out of curiosity, does either of these spreadsheets do 3D graphs as
nicely as Informix WingZ does/did?
For those who hadn't heard, WingZ is now an entity in and of itself
http://www.wingz.com--not doing OPENSTEP as far as I can tell though.
William
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From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LZH file
Date: 28 Jul 1997 02:09:44 GMT
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In <5rffic$faf@ustsu10.ust.hk> Jesse Hau wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me how can i open an lzh file?
>
> i got a lharc.exe program, but in winzip, it also siad that i havnt got
this
> kind of program, why?
Get Opener.app off the archives.
TjL
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From: szallies@energotec.de (Constantin Szallies)
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Subject: Re: problem with Alexandria.app--any advice?
Date: 28 Jul 1997 07:00:50 GMT
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mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill) wrote:
>I'm using Alexandria.app to read/post news. When I don't interact
>with the server for longer than about 5 minutes (like when I'm typing
>a long response), it loses the connection and dumps me off (losing
>the response).
>Is this a problem with Alexandria, or with my server?
Your server closes the connection after some idle time. Alexandra should
reconnect in this case. Unfortunatly Alexandra's reconnect feature is buggy.
Work-a-round: If you compose a message, copy and save the text in some editor
before pressing "Post".
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From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: problem with Alexandria.app--any advice?
Date: 28 Jul 1997 08:31:33 GMT
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mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill) wrote:
> I'm using Alexandria.app to read/post news. When I don't interact
> with the server for longer than about 5 minutes (like when I'm typing
> a long response), it loses the connection and dumps me off (losing
> the response). Is this a problem with Alexandria, or with my server?
> I've never had a problem with any other newsreader I've tried.
Some newsservers are configured to disconnect after a certain amount of idle
time. Alexandra *should* automatically reconnect. I cannot say why this
doesn't work but you can set the following default and start Alexandra in the
same shell. (Don't forget to unset the default after you're done.)
prompt> dwrite Alexandra EchoSocket YES
prompt> /LocalApps/Alexandra.app/Alexandra
...alexandra will dump all of the communication with the server...
...wait for a timeout and check what's happening when alexandra...
...tries to reconnect...
prompt> dwrite Alexandra EchoSocket NO
hope that helps
erik
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From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenWrite Questions
Date: 28 Jul 1997 15:13:15 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
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I have two questions.
1. Does anyone know why I would get the following message when
trying to import microsoft word documents into OpenWrite?
The file conversion filter for:
ascii: ASCII (8-bit)
does not contain binaries for this architecture.
2. I have just purchased OS 4.2, and seem to vaguely recall
someone having problems with OpenWrite under OpenStep. Am I imagining
things, or did I see such a problem posted, and if so, was there a
solution?
Thanks.
Randy
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From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino)
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Subject: Using pppd on the command line
Date: 28 Jul 1997 18:04:52 GMT
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I'm writing a program that will initiate a ppp session by invoking pppd
through a system() call. I would like to provide all the arguments necessary
to bring up the connection on the command line, rather than depending on
external script files. However, what works for me as a series of script
files isn't working on the command line, and I can not figure out why.
For example, issuing this command in a terminal works just fine:
/usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 mtu 1500 lcp-echo-interval 60
lcp-echo-failure 3 debug crtscts kdebug 17 defaultroute modem -pap -chap
-detach connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v -f
/usr/local/ppp/scripts/pppup.zyxel' /dev/cufa 38400 lock
where /usr/local/ppp/scripts/pppup.zyxel is:
---------
ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR"
""
ATI1 "OK"
AT+FCLASS=0 "OK"
ATS42.1=0 "OK"
ATS38.3=1 "OK"
ATS38.5=1 "OK"
ATS2=128 "OK"
ATS46.2=1 "OK"
AT&K4 "OK"
AT&N0 "OK"
ATM1 "OK"
ATV1 "OK"
ATQ0 "OK"
ATX5 "OK"
AT&C1 "OK"
AT&D3 "OK"
AT&H3 "OK"
AT&J0 "OK"
AT&L0 "OK"
AT&M0 "OK"
AT&R1 "OK"
AT&S0 "OK"
ATN1 "OK"
ATDT1170,234-0524 CONNECT
"" "42b"
"\r\r\r" TIMEOUT 5
login--login--login--login
ACCOUNT assword: PASSWORD
---------
But what I would like to do is to take this script file and send it as a
series of arguments to the 'chat' program. After doing this, however, chat
sends a message that it can't get terminal parameters. In other words, the
following command line:
/usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 mtu 1500 lcp-echo-interval 60
lcp-echo-failure 3 debug crtscts kdebug 17 defaultroute modem -pap -chap
-detach connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT
"NO DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" ATI1 "OK" AT+FCLASS=0 "OK" ATS42.1=0 "OK"
ATS38.3=1 "OK" ATS38.5=1 "OK" ATS2=128 "OK" ATS46.2=1 "OK" AT&K4 "OK" AT&N0
"OK" ATM1 "OK" ATV1 "OK" ATQ0 "OK" AT&C1 "OK" AT&D3 "OK" AT&H3 "OK" AT&J0
"OK" AT&L0 "OK" AT&M0 "OK" AT&R1 "OK" AT&S0 "OK" ATN1 "OK" ATDT1170,234-0524
CONNECT "" "42b" "\r\r\r" TIMEOUT 5 login--login--login--login ACCOUNT
assword: PASSWORD' /dev/cufa 38400 lock
produces the following error message in ppp2.2.log:
Jul 25 17:20:47 jehu pppd[1251]: pppd 2.2.0 started by mark, uid 0
Jul 25 17:20:50 jehu pppd[1251]: Connect script failed
Jul 25 17:20:50 jehu chat[1253]: Can't get terminal parameters: No such
device
Jul 25 17:20:52 jehu pppd[1251]: Exit.
If I remove some of the modem initialization commands, I get further in the
process, but the link still isn't fully brought up. Sometimes the session
dies because the server is asking for authentication and the local process
rejects it. Sometimes the server will accept that but issue my local process
an address of 0.0.0.0....
For example:
/usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 mtu 1500 lcp-echo-interval 60
lcp-echo-failure 3 debug crtscts kdebug 17 defaultroute modem -pap -chap
-detach connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT
"NO DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" ATN1 "OK" ATDT*70,2340524 CONNECT "" "42b"
"\r\r\r" TIMEOUT 5 login--login--login--login ACCOUNT assword: PASSWORD'
/dev/cufa 38400 lock
Produces the following in ppp2.2.log:
Jul 25 17:11:47 jehu pppd[1210]: Serial connection established.
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: Using interface ppp0
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufa
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic
0x7b7a4a5a> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0>
<magic 0xb4dfe80e> <pcomp> <accomp> <auth upap>]
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (0)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (ACK)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (b4dfe80e)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (ACK)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (ACK)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (ACK)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (REJ)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFREJ.
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 <auth upap>]
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 <asyncmap 0x0>
<auth chap 05> <magic 0xb4dfe80e> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (0)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (ACK)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (REJ)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (b4dfe80e)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (ACK)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (ACK)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: (ACK)
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFREJ.
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x2 <auth chap 05>]
Jul 25 17:11:48 jehu pppd[1210]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 <asyncmap 0x0>
<magic 0xb4dfe80e> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jul 25 17:11:51 jehu pppd[1210]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic
0x7b7a4a5a> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jul 25 17:11:51 jehu pppd[1210]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic
0x7b7a4a5a> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jul 25 17:11:51 jehu pppd[1210]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 7b 7a 4a 5a]
Jul 25 17:11:51 jehu pppd[1210]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>
<compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jul 25 17:11:51 jehu pppd[1210]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <bsd v1 10>]
Jul 25 17:11:51 jehu pppd[1210]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 b4 df e8 0e]
Jul 25 17:11:51 jehu pppd[1210]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x4 80 fd 01 01 00 07
15 03 2a]
Jul 25 17:11:51 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_rprotrej.
Jul 25 17:11:51 jehu pppd[1210]: lcp_rprotrej: Rcvd Protocol-Reject packet
for 80fd!
Jul 25 17:11:54 jehu pppd[1210]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>
<compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jul 25 17:12:19 jehu last message repeated 8 times
Jul 25 17:12:22 jehu pppd[1210]: IPCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
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From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is anyone using slirp? (not sl_u_rp, sl_i_rp)
Date: 28 Jul 1997 22:54:36 GMT
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If you are using sl_i_rp under NeXTStep/OpenStep, please drop me a line.
Thanks
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ps -- yes that is a valid email address
From: overa@fire.sjsu.edu (overa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: WTB NIP / Trade od disks for Fortran prog
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:41:34 +0800
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
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hi,
Have od disks which will trade for a copy of absoft Fortran. My hd crashed
and my backup wont boot. :(
Also WTB a copy of Nextstep for Intel.
Let me know.
me :)
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:06:03 -0700
From: Krys & Tod Williamson <ktw@jetlink.net>
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Recently someone posted a successful installation of NS 3.3 onto a Mac
running Virtual PC. I am attempting the same, and am having trouble
because I don't know what drivers to tell the NS installer to load or
what (simulated) hardware to look for. Can anyone help?
Thanks very much,
-Tod
From: bhi1@ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: WTB NIP / Trade od disks for Fortran prog
Date: 29 Jul 1997 05:14:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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Hello :
I have Openstep 4.2 for Mach Upgrades for Intel at $199. And $15
shipping
Email : bhi1@ix.netcom.com
Best Regards Rob Blessin
On 07/27/97, overa wrote:
>hi,
>
>Have od disks which will trade for a copy of absoft Fortran. My hd
crashed
>and my backup wont boot. :(
>
>Also WTB a copy of Nextstep for Intel.
>
>Let me know.
>
>me :)
>
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303-320-0949
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From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Virtual PC & NeXTStep 3.3
Date: 29 Jul 1997 06:24:01 GMT
Organization: ppai News
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In <33DD6A78.62AA@jetlink.net> Krys & Tod Williamson wrote:
> Recently someone posted a successful installation of NS 3.3 onto a Mac
> running Virtual PC. I am attempting the same, and am having trouble
> because I don't know what drivers to tell the NS installer to load or
> what (simulated) hardware to look for. Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> -Tod
>
Please visit following web-site:
http://www.emulation.net/windoze/vpc/index.html
or
http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/qa/read.cgi?b=default&c=r_p&n=869041118
younghoon Kil
ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK)
http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai
(NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody Q&A & Info Board written in Korean)
(We have 3,500 web pages about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody)
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PDF viewers
Date: 29 Jul 1997 06:28:18 GMT
Organization: ppai News
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References: <5rdep1$daf$1@tribune.usask.ca>
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In <5rdep1$daf$1@tribune.usask.ca> Carl Norum wrote:
>
> Hi there, everyone... I've just got two quick questions.
>
> I - Is there a NEXTSTEP application that will properly read Acrobat 3.0
> files, or do I have to live with
> version 2.0?
>
> II - Where do I get it?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
>
>
Please visit following web-sites:
http://www.BITart.com/PDFView/
http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/
http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/qa/search.cgi?b=default&c=s_p&n=865498060
younghoon Kil
ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK)
http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai
(NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody Q&A & Info Board written in Korean)
(We have 3,500 web pages about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody)
From: daj@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: popper
Date: 28 Jul 1997 19:46:44 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <5risv4$chu@news.acns.nwu.edu>
I'm looking for pop3d for OpenStep.
The source I have will not compile under OpenStep Developer 4.1. Is there a binary version (precompiled) available anywhere? Is there source for Openstep?
Thank's in advance,
David A. Johnson
From: jbf@frazer.com (James Frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite Questions
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 08:38:04 -0400
Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc.
Message-ID: <jbf-2907970838040001@frazer.com>
References: <5ricub$69$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In article <5ricub$69$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) described
several problems.
Perhaps the following will help (from DejaNews):
******
On 06/10/96, Andreas wrote:
> I´m trying to import a Word for Win95 - document in OpenWrite, but it
> tells me something about a not installed ascii-filter for my
> architecture (NeXTStation Turbo).
> Does somebody know what`s the problem ?
>
Yes, you need to install the AFSFilterPackages (can't remember the proper
name offhand), available from the ftp site at peak.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
******
In <5bhvnj$5jh@brockman.serv.net> Dean Johnson wrote:
>
> I just started using OpenWrite for my word processing needs and for
> some reason it does not spell check. All this time I thought that I
> just spelled exceptionally well when I noticed glaring errors on my
> resume, of all places :(.
>
> The app just gives the familiar beep like it has completed checking
> the document, but it in fact did nothing. Has anyone else noticed this
> or have any ideas why it would not check my document?
>
Hi,
This is a bug in Openwrite if you are running it with OpenStep/mach 4.x. It
is a real pain (aside from one or two other "little" bugs I've encountered),
and I have mostly stopped using OpenWrite and started using CedarWord.
Lighthouse knows about this bug, but I don't know if they've done anything
about it. You might send mail to openwrite@lighthouse.com and request that
they fix it. I think they're probably ignoring me at this point because I
was pretty upset at them over another bug I encountered with OpenWrite, and I
made that clear to them.
Make sure you've downloaded the most recent OpenWrite release from one of the
FTP sites so you don't encounter the bug I did. The bug erases your home
directory when renaming a chapter in a book. To my knowledge, that is the
only bug they've fixed in the most recent release.
> I did notice that it does spell check inside the Help facility of
> OpenWrite, but not my documents. Anyway, tips appreciated to
> thrall@serv.net
>
> Thanks,
>
> dean
>
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From: James MacDonald <trill@netbook.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LZH file
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 10:25:40 +0100
Organization: Trills and Technologies
Distribution: world
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References: <5rffic$faf@ustsu10.ust.hk>
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In article <5rffic$faf@ustsu10.ust.hk>, Jesse Hau <jesse@ustsu3.ust.hk>
scribbled :
>
>Can anyone tell me how can i open an lzh file?
>
>i got a lharc.exe program, but in winzip, it also siad that i havnt got this
>kind of program, why?
>
>
>Jesse
Firstly, this is not a NeXT question.
Secondly, make sure you got lha.exe, not lharc.exe
Thirdly, Winzip is for wimps. Do it on the command line.
If you really wanna Winzip, open the prefs box and point Winzip in the
direction of LHA.EXE.
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From: James MacDonald <trill@netbook.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LZH file
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 10:24:39 +0100
Organization: Trills and Technologies
Distribution: world
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References: <5rffic$faf@ustsu10.ust.hk> <5rgv18$pgf$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>
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In article <5rgv18$pgf$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, "Timothy J. Luoma"
<nospam+next@luomat.peak.org> scribbled :
>In <5rffic$faf@ustsu10.ust.hk> Jesse Hau wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone tell me how can i open an lzh file?
>>
>> i got a lharc.exe program, but in winzip, it also siad that i havnt got
>this
>> kind of program, why?
>
>
>Get Opener.app off the archives.
I think he's a Windozer. NeXT apps won't help here :)
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <ced016@email.mot.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: problem installing EOF from DevWorld
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:10:08 -0500
Organization: Motorola, Fixed Products Design Center Computer Support Group, Schaumburg, IL, USA, Earth
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Scott Ribe wrote:
> I have the mailed out Prelude to Rhapsody CD, not the one given out at
>
> WWDC, IOW I don't have the WebObjects CD.
>
> Anyway, I have downloaded the EOF file off DevWorld. I have
> successfully
> installed the EO2User package and the Informix and Oracle adaptor
> packages.
> But I cannot get the EO2Developer package to install.
>
> The check phase runs through without errors, the last few lines of the
> log read:
>
> Checking /NextLibrary/Receipts/EO2Developer.pkg ... OK.
> ...done.
>
> Installing EO2Developer.pkg into / ...
> stdin: not in compressed format
> *** There were errors while installing EO2Developer.pkg.
> ... errors.
>
> Any ideas as to what I should try?
No idea, yet...
I had the same error message. I'll try re-downloading it.
Can anyone from NeXT/Apple comment?
Thanks,
Eric
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From: garyc@filoli.com (Gary Chang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Grammar files for Objective-C
Date: 28 Jul 1997 18:09:46 GMT
Organization: Filoli Information Systems
Message-ID: <5rin9a$lih$1@news.filoli.com>
Hi guys,
Does anybody know where to get the grammar files, *.lm and *.ym,
for Objective-C?
Thanks,
Gary
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The Filoli Information Systems, Co.
E-Mail:garyc@filoli.com (NeXT-Mail O.K.)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: test
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:38:56 -0600
From: Benoit.Marchant@questintl.com
Subject: Strange behaviour of PB on NFS mounted dir
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Message-ID: <870247625.18947@dejanews.com>
Organization: Deja News Posting Service
To: rhapsody-dev@omnigroup.com
Hi,
I just installed 4.2 developer and meet a dramatic problem. My
/LocalDeveloper is an an NT server with Intergraph DiskShare NFS Server
which I strongly recommend. My home directory is on it as well. With any
application, I can create, delete save files on these directories, the
mapping is good, user, group, permissions are ok. The trouble wit PB is
that if I create a new Project in one of these directories, I get "Unable
to copy /NextDeveloper/Makefiles/project/Makefile.preamble.template to
/LocalDeveloper/tmp/Test42/Makefile.preamble."
and the entire project is owned by root, group wheel. If I do the same on
my local main Disk, owner and group are correct. If I do the same on my
local second Disk which is not in fstab, owner is correct, but group
insn't and = nogroup. My default group are miriad (100) and wheel.
I would like to understand what's hapening as it worked perfectly in 4.1.
Thanks in advance for any clue, solution !!
Benoit Marchant
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From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: maple for next
Date: 30 Jul 1997 14:54:42 GMT
Organization: Personal
Message-ID: <5rnkji$ab5@rumah.pc.my>
I have to teach a course using maple, and I think I remember LONG ago that
there was a maple for next, but couldn't find reference to in w/dejanews.
Could somebody tell me if there is such an animal & where?
TIA,
Mike
From: bob@columbia.uark.edu(Bob)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: maple for next
Date: 30 Jul 1997 18:01:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Arkansas
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References: <5rnkji$ab5@rumah.pc.my>
In article <5rnkji$ab5@rumah.pc.my> michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan)
writes:
> I have to teach a course using maple, and I think I remember LONG ago
that
> there was a maple for next, but couldn't find reference to in
w/dejanews.
>
> Could somebody tell me if there is such an animal & where?
>
> TIA,
> Mike
Waterloo Software still sells MapleV Release 3 for NeXT. Sorry, but I've
misplaced their number and e-mail address.
Bob
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From: Christopher J Lewandowski-pearson <lewandow@u.arizona.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Transfer display?
Date: 30 Jul 1997 16:21:33 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <5rnpmd$lpe$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
This is only the second day I have used a NeXT, so please forgive me for
this newbie-ish question:
I finally convinced my boss to let me use a '040-25 NeXT cube instead
of the 486/33 Linux machine at work. I have never used a NeXT before,
but already I'm in love. Anyway to the point... It is currently running
OS 3.0 and have 16megs of RAM.
Is there anyway to transfer the display from a X-windows system to the
cube? (I'm on a TCP/IP network). I tried to find xhost, but could not.
Thanks in advance!
=Chris
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